hahaha.alrite.i'll try.

btw,im still on my way to cut off the fat on my tummy. this should take some time.

Do u hav the link of the thread? Or the journal? I'm kind of interested in his "philosophy"... hmm...

You can give his diet a try to see how it works, though I personally think that the fat intake is quite low for a BB'er.

And if he's 65kg, I think he'll continue to lose weight with his less than 2k kcal/day diet.

This post has been edited by Vbs: Jun 30 2011, 05:44 PM

Is it possible that whatever protein he intakes actually goes into his system ? Like for normal people if we overtake protein in a single meal it'll come out excess because some cannot be digested .

Is it possible maybe his kidney can digest all the protein so he has 0% protein waste ?

Shouldn't be.I've read his journal.In short,he is just like those hardcore martial artists u saw in those kungfu movies.Like jackie chan's old movies, just keep training,training n training,eat just like normal, (according to him,he wasn't someone believe in supplement).

One of his journal
Self management 22.10.2010

h=hour m=minutes

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sleeping time - 8h
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breakfast - 矿泉水(Mineral water)
lunch - 鸡胸，菜，水饺 (Chicken brest,veggie,dumplings)
dinner - 鸡胸，鸡肉，菜，鱼丸（全过水） (Chicken breast,chicjen meat,veggie,fishball (cooked by just boil with water))
fruit - 番石榴 (Guava)
snack -
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workouts
chest - 40m
back -
shoulder -
biceps - 30m
triceps -
forearm -
abs - 40m
leg -
cardio - 20m
sandbag - 30m (2hours plus)
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gram...
calories - 1400
protein - 130
fat - 40
carbohydrate - 80
supplement - multivitamin,vit c,Q10
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consumer -
activities -
mood - 放松的一天
massage hair - 5m


He trained over 2 hours and eating no breakfast. Yes,he is against all sort of the BB theories as Crab said. According to the guy,he was a bad boy and involve in fights, then change over a new leaf and engaged in BB. He just trained hard.

Crab, thx for introducing such example. He may just be a layman, but as he said himself, he believe in determination and our mind determine what our body can do (his philosophy which is also a good philosophy). So in short, instead of struggling with articles and theories of how muscles can grow it best,this man just buried himself in routines.

In my opinion, it's really up to one to choose to be like him (hardcore trainer) or a work smart,train smart.

Crab, I do know someone like him, but my fren is kind of suffer and struggle through pains, he managed to get a good physique in just short while.But he gave up quite soon enough (just 1 year after he trained). What my fren did was using dumbell of 10kg each side, completed a 100 reps each body part exercise everyday (like shoulder press-->bicep curl-->tricep kickback-->bench press-->deadlift-->squats-->lunges and end with crunches).from the day 1 he start to the last day.He may increase but never decrease.Minimum rest, of course he failed at certain # of reps,he just rest then continue all the way.

After all,I guess knowledge is still quite important if someone reli try to excel in something,let it be hobby or career.

What u guys think?

This remind me of the article i read and the quote is on my signature... The only thing diff between the guy who keep and rule and the one break it is the "Effort"

he is actually a very hardworking guy,he make alots of notes(chinese though his eng understand is not good)
and he is a firm believer that muscles is not just for aesthetic purpose,it must have some value(strength) .

well suddenly i think of,serge nubrets.the 6 times world champion.he advocates listen to body,hence he claim he eat 3 meals sometimes per day

I like your explanation,thats help me to clear all the thought much ! thanks !

p.s:*your friends...hardcore..lol,is he gaining good mass?*

This post has been edited by theCrab: Jun 30 2011, 11:00 PM

Been awhile since i posted any photos here. Last was when i was competing in 2009. So, here goes.



Stats:
Weight - 105kgs
Height - 6'0"
Waist - 36

Still abit fat. but trying to maintain my shades of abs so i dont blow up too much and suffer when cutting.

Looking massive, bro. Are you still competing?

very impressive..

i love partial moves

Shit man.. you all have HUGE backs .. im so small T_T

You're not alone, bro!

nice back there...

Since this week all back pic, so what's next? set a target to share it out? legs? chest? bi's? tri's?

<----- your avatar pic back looks like turtle shell . that SOLID bro

massive back registry editor ..... how many sets need to do to get the massive back ... Now im doing about 15 set 5 exercise ... is that sufficient for back ?

I dun measure my fren's mass though... LOLX. But that time can see a huge change in him, body posture and in sports (we are in secondary school,so we hav sport practices once a week).Can observe that his performance in sports just shoot up.Chasing the ball around the field and made people whenever people bumped into him for header (FOOTBALL). And yes, he is the 1st guy that I can see the nice tricep shape in the school U (he is not even flexing).

p/s: not homo, just I really love the nice tricep shape even without flexing.

Btw, after now we graduate, my fren started to give in. The last time I met him in futsal court, he said that he grow lots fat since not training.

EFFORT and HARDWORK build MEN.

I'm still a small boy though. Especially when all big bros, show their MASSIVE BACKS here.

M'sia does has a lot BIG GUYS!!!

this year no plans la. trying to stay in the closet until next year. really need to get some quality mass first. Light Heavy isnt gona be easy.

To be honest i only did deadlifts during my early days of bb-ing. now mostly 21sets.
Sample back routine:-
Bent over barbell row - 2 warmup sets & 4 working sets
Lat pulldown (front) - 5 sets
Lat pulldown (back) - 3 sets
Seated cable row - 5 sets
Hyperextension - 4 sets

I thought it's a progress pic thread - not a back pic thread

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Added on July 1, 2011, 1:01 pmBtw for those who're using imageshack, mods can only see frozen frogs. So cant really comment on things

This post has been edited by Syd G: Jul 1 2011, 01:01 PM

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