free_enuf , mind sharing how you get such BIG wings ?

What's your routine for back ?

yahhhhhh!!!nothing better to do





whos yr dadday!!!lol

Goddamn, y'all have insane backs.

darkcity,do you mind to share somethings you've done to your back?that's some insane lats width I would like to have...
*drool*







another friend from other forum
this guy never touch any supplements for his life
not even whey
fuuuu ... and he dont apply 6 meals per day nor hitting the least protein requirement
he dont take 10 eggs per day,he only take 1-2 chicken breast during cutting
all he have mostly are potatoes,coffee,apple,chinese traditional food..closed to vegetarian diet
totally opposed science of bb but he get results..
i wonder,genetic works?

This post has been edited by theCrab: Jun 30 2011, 02:53 AM

genetic works?
wth
i tot ppl should know by now, genetic plays a big part in bb...

Massive shoulders.

rear delts... like bengkak

He is an ectomorph.skinny but athletic built.people with this body can eat anythinh from kcf to mcd or nasi goreng but still maintain a lean body.but will have problem building up mass

I have a friend just like him.. super rip and never gain weight.. He took part in last 2 week mr perak competition and got second... his weight hardly to increase but the body is super rip..

I'm natural fat

hmmm, i wonder all this minimum protein requirement is real or not ... since not eating enough protein can grow that big ....... maybe all we need is just 1.2g per kg of protein per day and we can still grow ....

I didn't really calculate the intake of protein per day.. you calculate?

yes, i calculate. I try to take minimum of 1.2g per kg of bodyweight. For me, its about 80g But I usually take around 90-100g ... no need to take so much. Easier on my wallet ....

think very hard to compare with ppl who r ecto or with good genes.

It definitely does. A year and a half back I had about more than 60g of additional protein from supplements everyday and I gained size; I was 66.5kg and had more muscle mass. Today, I only get about 50-70g of protein per day from whole foods only. I'm currently at 61kg.

This post has been edited by Vbs: Jun 30 2011, 10:43 AM

Vbs, you mean more protein can help you gain size ? how much total protein you take for the mass gain (in g / kg bw). Do you distribute it evenly for the day or more during the workout period

Have you tried taking 1.2g / kg and see if that can add mass to you ? of course you need to have caloric surplus. From carb and fat ....

there is noway he is an ecto

he is very famous in chinesecari.com
just like darklight in lowyat




he was a super fat guy before then after slim down he go for a bulk and cut cycles



year of training transform



and this guy claim that he can squat 250 kg(until he screw the bar)/bench 200 kg but no ones doubt so..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpOMonmYhR8...player_embedded with a video proof when he squatting 180 kg 2 years ago

ok whats bothering me is his training style and diet
totally opposed the convetional style of bb-ing
he is more like a mixed of powerlifter+bb ,and you wouldnt see some him gulp 10 eggs per day
been followed his journal for 2 years in forum and he have some new concept for bb thus i carry out for public discussion..

p/s:dint censor his face ,as his face already exposed under public and being daikor at cari forum

that's why i doubt the recommended protein intake of 1g/lb to build mass. Seems that this guy oppose that recommended protein and grow so much and so strong.

Or maybe he under calculate his protein consumption ? Maybe he consume more only he do not realize ?

yea buddy
i know genetic play 95% of how you gonna looks like
but if you read into his diet
you will ask the same ques as me
I am merely asking with such condition + his food nutrition value how possible to build up ,thus carry out the discussion
sometimes he get only around 80 gram protein per day


I doubt so ..though wont be precise but i guess the difference wont be 50 gram difference
could be even lower
this guy know his body,and update his journal everyday,if I am not mistaken he training at somewher KL ..
sometimes i have the same doubt with you
cause he once ask,is the 1g/lbs protein a real fact for us to build body or just a guideline for us ?
because 99% of bodybuilders do so,where is the 1% goes? and he a is a strong believer in mind and body . he emphasize mind > body,so ,you only get yourself motivation in a long run.
He told usthat he once play a China BB forum,their style there is sort like him,human body is way stronger than we think.
of course we're not talking bout competing on stage ...there's a whole new story.different standard

This post has been edited by theCrab: Jun 30 2011, 11:22 AM

@kurtkob78

I started taking weight gainers like what most skinny guys would do a few times a week. My weight shot up from 58-66.5kg within 2 months. Gained lots of fat and some muscles. When I ran out of the stuff, I switched to wheat protein isolate. On top of a normal diet with a little more carbs than what I'm taking today, I took 3 scoops of protein each day in the morning, afternoon and pre-bedtime. I had about 100-110g of protein in those days, which is not even close to my bodyweight in lbs but I still managed to pack on more muscle mass.

@Crab

Got the link to the dude's diet?

This post has been edited by Vbs: Jun 30 2011, 11:22 AM

send you a pm ! you read chinese?its a long journal..