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theCrab
post Jun 28 2011, 09:28 PM

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good lat spread
tips for wide lats
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post Jun 29 2011, 01:03 PM

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I love seeing back pic...MORE MORE KEEP'EM COMING !
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post Jun 30 2011, 02:17 AM

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QUOTE(Darkcity212 @ Jun 30 2011, 12:45 AM)
yahhhhhh!!!nothing better to do
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whos yr dadday!!!lol
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darkcity,do you mind to share somethings you've done to your back?that's some insane lats width I would like to have...
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another friend from other forum
this guy never touch any supplements for his life
not even whey
fuuuu ... and he dont apply 6 meals per day nor hitting the least protein requirement
he dont take 10 eggs per day,he only take 1-2 chicken breast during cutting
all he have mostly are potatoes,coffee,apple,chinese traditional food..closed to vegetarian diet
totally opposed science of bb but he get results..
i wonder,genetic works?

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post Jun 30 2011, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(Darkcity212 @ Jun 30 2011, 10:06 AM)
He is an ectomorph.skinny but athletic built.people with this body can eat anythinh from kcf to mcd or nasi goreng but still maintain a lean body.but will have problem building up mass
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there is noway he is an ecto

he is very famous in chinesecari.com
just like darklight in lowyat

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he was a super fat guy before then after slim down he go for a bulk and cut cycles

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year of training transform
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and this guy claim that he can squat 250 kg(until he screw the bar)/bench 200 kg but no ones doubt so..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpOMonmYhR8...player_embedded with a video proof when he squatting 180 kg 2 years ago

ok whats bothering me is his training style and diet
totally opposed the convetional style of bb-ing
he is more like a mixed of powerlifter+bb ,and you wouldnt see some him gulp 10 eggs per day
been followed his journal for 2 years in forum and he have some new concept for bb thus i carry out for public discussion..

p/s:dint censor his face ,as his face already exposed under public and being daikor at cari forum





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post Jun 30 2011, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Jun 30 2011, 08:32 AM)
genetic works?
wth
i tot ppl should know by now, genetic plays a big part in bb...
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yea buddy
i know genetic play 95% of how you gonna looks like
but if you read into his diet
you will ask the same ques as me
I am merely asking with such condition + his food nutrition value how possible to build up ,thus carry out the discussion
sometimes he get only around 80 gram protein per day


QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Jun 30 2011, 11:13 AM)
that's why i doubt the recommended protein intake of 1g/lb to build mass. Seems that this guy oppose that recommended protein and grow so much and so strong.

Or maybe he under calculate his protein consumption ? Maybe he consume more only he do not realize ?
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I doubt so ..though wont be precise but i guess the difference wont be 50 gram difference
could be even lower
this guy know his body,and update his journal everyday,if I am not mistaken he training at somewher KL ..
sometimes i have the same doubt with you
cause he once ask,is the 1g/lbs protein a real fact for us to build body or just a guideline for us ?
because 99% of bodybuilders do so,where is the 1% goes? and he a is a strong believer in mind and body . he emphasize mind > body,so ,you only get yourself motivation in a long run.
He told usthat he once play a China BB forum,their style there is sort like him,human body is way stronger than we think.
of course we're not talking bout competing on stage ...there's a whole new story.different standard

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post Jun 30 2011, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(Vbs @ Jun 30 2011, 11:20 AM)
@kurtkob78

I started taking weight gainers like what most skinny guys would do a few times a week. My weight shot up from 58-66.5kg within 2 months. Gained lots of fat and some muscles. When I ran out of the stuff, I switched to wheat protein isolate. On top of a normal diet with a little more carbs than what I'm taking today, I took 3 scoops of protein each day in the morning, afternoon and pre-bedtime. I had about 100-110g of protein in those days, which is not even close to my bodyweight in lbs but I still managed to pack on more muscle mass.

@Crab

Got the link to the dude's diet?
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send you a pm ! you read chinese?its a long journal..
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post Jun 30 2011, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(Vbs @ Jun 30 2011, 11:48 AM)
From his journal:

-1.9.2010-

Breakfast: A can of wheatgrass drink

Lunch: Steamed fish, wantan, veges

Dinner: chicken breast, prawns and.. 金针菇.. Crab, can translate? lol

Snacktime: Guai lin gou (forgot what it's called in English.. royal jelly?), apples

Calories: 1,800
Protein: 110
Fat: 60
Carbs: 120
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金针菇 = mushroom
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btw the chicken breast part is possible
1 pieces whole chicken breast part can in market can almost fulfilled 100 gram...
butterfly pieces i mean

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post Jun 30 2011, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Jun 30 2011, 11:57 AM)
eh almost like typical meal for normal person, minus rice and nothing much is fried.
wheatgrass drink and guai lin gou r like cleansing food (for cutting?)
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yeap the journal start from the 1st day he cut last year sep
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post Jun 30 2011, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(Vbs @ Jun 30 2011, 12:03 PM)
That's just one sample diet. Here's another.

-31.8.2010-

Breakfast: A can of wheatgrass drink

Lunch: Steamed fish, fried egg, veges

Dinner: 5 eggs, veges, guai lin gou

Snack: Honeydew

Calories: 1400
Protein: 70
Fat: 20
Carbs: 150
Pretty clean diet, so that means low % of bf but the muscle mass he has is incredible. Still trying to find out how heavy he is currently.
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before that almost 95 or over 100 kg couldnt remember exact
he is 165 cm if i am not mistaken
after his cut he is below 65 kg now
he definitely holding alot muscle mass which i dont understand
he dont eat expensive like a normal bb life style
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mesomorph?or hard train pay-off?
he got the another theory bout food which i totally fresh into it...

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post Jun 30 2011, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Jun 30 2011, 01:05 PM)
eh my height some more, damn him lol tongue.gif
btw was he ever ever on roids?
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been follow his thread for 2 years
and know someone in real life besides him,should be NO
probably genetic factor,he's like a legend in the forum btw he advise us not to follow his diet
cause he claim he definitely know what he is going to eat and know what he is eating.with years of experiences
mostly are some chinese traditional herbs/fruits..etc..

this is why i carry out the discussion...is anyone here with an example ?

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post Jun 30 2011, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Jun 30 2011, 01:33 PM)
One more thing im wondering. Do you really need complete protein to build muscle ? See the vegan bodybuilder, do they eat complete protein ? from what I know, you need to mix 2 plant ingredient to make a complete protein ....... any vegan bodybuilder here ?
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as far as i know
they took supplements such as whey
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post Jun 30 2011, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(van_takawa @ Jun 30 2011, 10:17 PM)
Shouldn't be.I've read his journal.In short,he is just like those hardcore martial artists u saw in those kungfu movies.Like jackie chan's old movies, just keep training,training n training,eat just like normal, (according to him,he wasn't someone believe in supplement).

One of his journal
Self management 22.10.2010

                     h=hour      m=minutes

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sleeping time   - 8h
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breakfast        - 矿泉水(Mineral water)
lunch             - 鸡胸,菜,水饺 (Chicken brest,veggie,dumplings)
dinner            - 鸡胸,鸡肉,菜,鱼丸(全过水) (Chicken breast,chicjen meat,veggie,fishball (cooked by just boil with water))
fruit               - 番石榴 (Guava)
snack             -
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workouts     
chest             - 40m
back              -
shoulder         -
biceps            - 30m
triceps            -
forearm          -
abs                - 40m
leg                 -
cardio             - 20m
sandbag          - 30m (2hours plus)
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                            gram...
calories             - 1400
protein             - 130
fat                   - 40
carbohydrate     - 80
supplement       - multivitamin,vit c,Q10
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consumer         -
activities           -
mood               - 放松的一天
massage hair     - 5m
He trained over 2 hours and eating no breakfast. Yes,he is against all sort of the BB theories as Crab said. According to the guy,he was a bad boy and involve in fights, then change over a new leaf and engaged in BB. He just trained hard.

Crab, thx for introducing such example. He may just be a layman, but as he said himself, he believe in determination and our mind determine what our body can do (his philosophy which is also a good philosophy). So in short, instead of struggling with articles and theories of how muscles can grow it best,this man just buried himself in routines.

In my opinion, it's really up to one to choose to be like him (hardcore trainer) or a work smart,train smart.

Crab, I do know someone like him, but my fren is kind of suffer and struggle through pains, he managed to get a good physique in just short while.But he gave up quite soon enough (just 1 year after he trained). What my fren did was using dumbell of 10kg each side, completed a 100 reps each body part exercise everyday (like shoulder press-->bicep curl-->tricep kickback-->bench press-->deadlift-->squats-->lunges and end with crunches).from the day 1 he start to the last day.He may increase but never decrease.Minimum rest, of course he failed at certain # of reps,he just rest then continue all the way.

After all,I guess knowledge is still quite important if someone reli try to excel in something,let it be hobby or career.

What u guys think?
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he is actually a very hardworking guy,he make alots of notes(chinese though his eng understand is not good)
and he is a firm believer that muscles is not just for aesthetic purpose,it must have some value(strength) .

well suddenly i think of,serge nubrets.the 6 times world champion.he advocates listen to body,hence he claim he eat 3 meals sometimes per day

I like your explanation,thats help me to clear all the thought much ! thanks !

p.s:*your friends...hardcore..lol,is he gaining good mass?*

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post Jun 30 2011, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(registryeditor @ Jun 30 2011, 11:26 PM)
Been awhile since i posted any photos here. Last was when i was competing in 2009. So, here goes.

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Stats:
Weight - 105kgs
Height - 6'0"
Waist - 36

Still abit fat. but trying to maintain my shades of abs so i dont blow up too much and suffer when cutting.
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very impressive..
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QUOTE(Kmaru @ Jul 2 2011, 12:26 PM)
From my experience and I believe others to, lean bulk is better

Cost efficient, Clean calories, gain more lean mass instead of fat mass, healthy
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Just a quick question for you guys..
How much you guys spend on food alone during bulk?mind yo share?

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QUOTE(registryeditor @ Jul 2 2011, 06:08 PM)
FYI carbs and fats do not build muscle. they just present an opportunity window to build a muscle in layman's terms. therefore, building muscle is generally more expensive. but if you clean bulk. then you dont need to spend much money or effort when you cut. only prob with most people is that they are too lazy to cook own food.
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So you mean even bulking we should take eyes of our carbs intake?or just increase the protein intake?
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Jul 2 2011, 07:59 PM)
PWNED!!!!

i believe this chinese fat turned hulk dude is like god in chinesecari?
who cares, the ifbb pro and olympians are natural bb'ers are all members in bb.com but no one said one is better than the other
if one thinks darklite sucked, then so be it
at least he's big and has the bragging rights
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There won't be " ones better than other "discussion here
Lowyay member like pedro,kmaru and darklight are pretty friendly and knwoledgable,they take times for answering my question and clear me doubt though I pm them 1 by 1
The reason I drag this guy into discussion is just curious bout his diet way but not comparing whose body is better ..evryone bb-ers is a hardworker and definitately have their own way

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QUOTE(MelForC3 @ Jul 8 2011, 10:21 PM)
Leg progres... Dun flame me...

bulk a little so look fatty a bit
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big calves
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post Jul 9 2011, 01:52 AM

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QUOTE(MelForC3 @ Jul 9 2011, 01:49 AM)
ahahha yea... at the gym nation entrance lol... i want to get my rip sigh.. .but makan a lot lately haha... feel so fat and oily haha...

thecrab saw me b4 weh... he can prove im fat haha tongue.gif
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fat ? dont think so...big,yes LOL
man you have wicked calves you know..

no longer training in gym nation,training somewhre at perak road there smile.gif
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post Aug 3 2011, 12:39 AM

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QUOTE(-Dan @ Aug 2 2011, 11:38 PM)
Massive, bro! What's your height and weight at the moment?
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he wrote before..
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Height: 170cm
Weight: 180-185 pounds
Chest: 48" inches
Waist: 35" inches
Legs: 27" inches
Arms: 18.5 inches

been training for 14 years now, never once go compete, just train for fun nia... other people likes collecting stamp, i like lifting weight... as simple as that...

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QUOTE(hoxy @ Aug 3 2011, 08:53 PM)
You are doing it full 17sec? You are a 100kg big man, of course it is hard even if it is two hand. That is a cool feat also. Imagine your strength with a 50kg body weight (mine is 52kg) and you will be showing picture like mine also. Strength-BodyWeight ratio rule.

Thanks for the acknowledgment, I take it as a fuel to move forward. To have the strength of a bigger man in a smaller body... that is a nice goal. Nothing is wrong with that.
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I am weight at 82 kg(carrying ltos of excess fat flabby) and still shooting up as i am bulking
do you have any idea/advise to improve my pull ups number?
the best i think i can do is 2 pull ups..

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