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post Apr 21 2011, 08:17 PM, updated 6y ago

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International Transactions
Transactions incurred will be converted to Ringgit Malaysia using US Dollars as the base currency on the date the item is received and/or processed at such exchange and at such time as may be determined by VISA International/MasterCard Worldwide at its absolute discretion plus administration cost which is to be imposed by the card issuing bank. The exchange may differ from the rate in effect on the date of the transaction due to market fluctuations. Such rate imposed shall be final and conclusive and the Cardmember shall bear all exchange risks, losses, commission and other bank charges which may thereby be incurred.
Rates are below:

Local Banks
- Maybank VISA/MasterCard : 1%
- Maybank American Express with Maybank logo on top : 2.5%
- American Express : 0.5% + 2.5%
- CIMB Bank : 1%
- Public Bank : 1.25%
- RHB Bank :
- AmBank :
- Hong Leong Bank VISA/MasterCard: 1%
- EON Bank : 1%
- Affin Bank :
- Alliance : 1%

Foreign Banks
- HSBC : 1.25%
- OCBC bank : 1%
- Standard Chartered : 1%
- UOB Bank : 1%
- Citibank : 1%

Exchange rate estimator :
http://corporate.visa.com/pd/consumer_serv...er_ex_rates.jsp
Mastercard Global Forex Rates
[url=http://www.oanda.com/convert/classic?user=americanexpress]
[url=https://www.fx4you.com/australia/americanexpress/converter/convert.cfm]


Please post all your foreign transactions here so we can compare the rates. Kindly include the
- transaction date
- amount charged in foreign currency
- amount billed in MYR
- final exchange rate


From users posted rate by various credit card issuers
QUOTE(KeSToN @ Mar 13 2017, 11:49 PM)
for AmBank rates,
via https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=83434015

Local Banks
- Maybank2C VISA/MasterCard : 2.26% (~ 1% + 1.25%)
- Maybank2C AMEX : 2.5%
- Maybank American Express with Maybank logo on top : 2.8-3%
- American Express : 2.8 -3%
- CIMB Bank : (cashback plat) 2.53% (should be ~ 1% + 1.5%)
- CIMB BANK (MC) 2%
- Public Bank : 1.25%, (visa signature) 1.0125%
- RHB Bank : (master plat) 1.02%
- AmBank : visa - 2.0 to 2.2%, (MC) - 1%
- Hong Leong Bank VISA/MasterCard:
- EON Bank :
- Affin Bank :
- Alliance :
- Aeon: (gold) 1.5% (watami) 0.8-1.2%

Foreign Banks
- HSBC : (visa plat) 2.27% (should be ~ 1% + 1.25%)
- OCBC bank :
- Standard Chartered :
- UOB Bank :  (YOLO) 2.5%
- Citibank : 1% + 1.4% (= 2.414%)
(if SGD, it is just 0.5%. surprising)
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post Apr 21 2011, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Apr 21 2011, 09:17 PM)
International Transactions
Transactions incurred will be converted to Ringgit Malaysia using US Dollars as the base currency on the date the item is received and/or processed at such exchange and at such time as may be determined by VISA International/MasterCard Worldwide at its absolute discretion plus administration cost which is to be imposed by the card issuing bank. The exchange may differ from the rate in effect on the date of the transaction due to market fluctuations. Such rate imposed shall be final and conclusive and the Cardmember shall bear all exchange risks, losses, commission and other bank charges which may thereby be incurred.
Rates are below:

Local Banks
- Maybank VISA/MasterCard : 0.5%
- Maybank American Express with Maybank logo on top : 0.5% + 2.5%
- American Express : 0.5% + 2.5%
- CIMB Bank : 1%
- Public Bank : 1.25%
- RHB Bank :
- AmBank :
- Hong Leong Bank VISA/MasterCard: 1%
- EON Bank : 1%
- Affin Bank :
- Alliance : 1%

Foreign Banks
- HSBC : 1.25%
- OCBC bank : 1%
- Standard Chartered : 1%
- UOB Bank : 1%
- Citibank : 1%

Exchange rate estimator : http://corporate.visa.com/pd/consumer_serv...er_ex_rates.jsp

Please post all your foreign transactions here so we can compare the rates. Kindly include the
- transaction date
- amount charged in foreign currency
- amount billed in MYR
- final exchange rate
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know from many senior here that MBB Visa/Master is lowest thumbup.gif
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post Apr 21 2011, 08:32 PM

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Would be great if someone can use the Standard Chartered VISA Infinite and Maybankard 2 American Express on the same day so we can see which one is giving better rate for foreign transaction, preferably on weekdays (so we don't have to factor in the MBB2 AMEX weekend 5% rebate when making a conclusion).
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post Apr 21 2011, 08:52 PM

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SC Visa CC: 16/4/11: EUR 1,368.57 MYR 6,108.90

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post Apr 21 2011, 09:19 PM

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Forgot that i also bought something online just a few days ago and was charged in USD. Anyway, here you go.

Maybank
17 Feb 2011
- USD44 > RM134.74 (HKD1 = RM3.0623)

**Wawasan Sentosa's HKD rate on 17/2/2011 was USD1 = RM??

By the way, the payment was actually made on 18/2/2011 (Malaysia) but the transaction date is recorded as 17/2/2011 in Maybank's system. Paypal is a company based in California and 15 hours behind Malaysia.

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Apr 21 2011, 08:17 PM)
Exchange rate estimator : http://corporate.visa.com/pd/consumer_serv...er_ex_rates.jsp

Please post all your foreign transactions here so we can compare the rates. Kindly include the
- transaction date
- amount charged in foreign currency
- amount billed in MYR
- final exchange rate
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Thanks for the Visa converter link.

However I feel that we all must use the same reference for comparison purposes e.g. wawasan sentosa or BNM.

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anyone can tell me whether use SCB business plat visa CC or Maybank 2kard visa CC to do online transaction in USD has better exchange rate? consider that SCB give 3x point for oversea transaction + 0.5% cashback but maybank2kard visa only give 1 point. From the info here. SCB charge 1% for transaction whereas maybank visa charge 0.5%. so which card would be better for oversea purchase? thanks
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Just used my SCB Business Plat in Bali and was charged around 2.79 rate inclusive of the 1%. It was not too bad.
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post Apr 26 2011, 10:26 PM

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Maybankard2 Visa
11-Mar-2011 (posted on 13-Mar-2011)
AUD$14.43 -> RM44.93
CC Forex : 3.1137
Wawasan rate : 3.0850 / Maybank rate : 3.0960

10-Mar-2011 (posted on 12-Mar-2011)
AUD$5.98 -> RM18.52
CC Forex : 3.0970
Wawasan rate : 3.0850 / Maybank rate : 3.1090

Maybankard2 AMEX
09-Mar-2011 (posted on 11-Mar-2011)
AUD$5.98 -> RM18.87
CC Forex : 3.1555
Wawasan rate : 3.0850 / Maybank rate : 3.1070

*** The transaction of AUD$5.98 was done on the same night, minutes apart only.

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post Apr 28 2011, 09:17 AM

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If you're given a choice of mastercard or visa from the same bank, then which you prefer to apply?

Thanks!
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post Apr 28 2011, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(kahhuat86 @ Apr 28 2011, 10:17 AM)
If you're given a choice of mastercard or visa from the same bank, then which you prefer to apply?

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it is up to u, visa or master not much difference
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QUOTE(beyond86 @ Apr 21 2011, 08:25 PM)
know from many senior here that MBB Visa/Master is lowest thumbup.gif
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Thought that too until I saw this
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Conversion Rate
The conversion rate is determined by VISA International or MasterCard International. AFFINBANK does not charge any additional fee.
source: Affin Bank
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QUOTE(tgrrr @ Apr 28 2011, 12:53 PM)
Thought that too until I saw this
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post Apr 30 2011, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(tgrrr @ Apr 28 2011, 11:53 AM)
source: Affin Bank
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That is what ALL bank credit card says, but in fact, they sneakily suck ur money from the high exchange rates.

I've tried the following credit card @ Australia:

SCB Business Visa Platinium - expensive
Maybankard 2 Gold Card - VISA: cheapest / AMEX: expensive
Citibank Platinium Cash Back - expensive

All 3 banks I called to ask if there are extra changes and all said none. Just sharing...
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QUOTE(chunglern @ Apr 30 2011, 02:38 PM)
I've tried the following credit card @ Australia:

SCB Business Visa Platinium - expensive
Maybankard 2 Gold Card - VISA: cheapest / AMEX: expensive
Citibank Platinium Cash Back - expensive

All 3 banks I called to ask if there are extra changes and all said none. Just sharing...
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The senior guys here have compiled and posted all the information when using cc overseas. And when people share the rates here, it is defined quantitatively - readers can judge/calculate for themselves the additional percentage the bank charge vs the prevailing market rates. Now, please note that even you change your money at the money changer, someone has to make a profit. So whatever exchange rate you obtained is always higher than the interbank rates.

You posted a subjective answer (questionable) vs. a quantitative answer which cannot be disputed. Your definition of "expensive" can be misleading for newbies browsing in this thread. People who are sensitive to even 0.1% extra would define the charges as expensive if follow your method of categorization the term "expensive".

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QUOTE(chunglern @ Apr 30 2011, 02:38 PM)
That is what ALL bank credit card says, but in fact, they sneakily suck ur money from the high exchange rates.

I've tried the following credit card @ Australia:

SCB Business Visa Platinium - expensive
Maybankard 2 Gold Card - VISA: cheapest / AMEX: expensive
Citibank Platinium Cash Back - expensive

All 3 banks I called to ask if there are extra changes and all said none. Just sharing...
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The exchange rate is determined by VISA, MasterCard or AMEX la duh. That's how they make money.
And I don't trust what our crappy bank officers from Malaysia said, most of them have little idea what they are really selling.
See below, all 3 banks you mentioned has additional fees as stated in their "fees and charges" section.

SCB --> 1%, source: SCB "fees and charges"
Maybankard 2 Gold Card - VISA --> 0.5% for VISA, 1.5% + 0.5% for AMEX. Source: Maybankard 2 Gold Application form. The AMEX 1.5% might be a typo, as everywhere else I see 2.5% for their AMEX cards.
Citibank --> 1%, source: Citibank "fees and charges"
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QUOTE(tgrrr @ May 1 2011, 08:50 AM)
Maybankard 2 Gold Card - VISA --> 0.5% for VISA, 1.5% + 0.5% for AMEX. Source: Maybankard 2 Gold Application form. The AMEX 1.5% might be a typo, as everywhere else I see 2.5% for their AMEX cards.
Definitely a typo. It's 0.5% for their VISA and MasterCard and 0.5% + 2.5% for their AMEX.

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any website that can see amex foreign exchange rate ? as i can see visa got a website but can't find amex anywhere..
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QUOTE(turion64 @ May 2 2011, 02:44 PM)
any website that can see amex foreign exchange rate ? as i can see visa got a website but can't find amex anywhere..
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May I ask 1 question?

Now i already received my maybank 2 cards credit card, Mastercard and AMex.

Assume that i need to spend on my hotel at overseas on weekend, is my Amex still entitle for 5% rebate?

Is mastercard foreign exchange rate and Amex is the same, excluding the 2.5% of Amex additional charge?


Added on May 2, 2011, 6:37 pmThanks !

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QUOTE(kahhuat86 @ May 2 2011, 07:36 PM)
May I ask 1 question?

Now i already received my maybank 2 cards credit card, Mastercard and AMex.

Assume that i need to spend on my hotel at overseas on weekend, is my Amex still entitle for 5% rebate?

Is mastercard foreign exchange rate and Amex is the same, excluding the 2.5% of Amex additional charge?


Added on May 2, 2011, 6:37 pmThanks !
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will entitle 5% cashback following malaysia time.
Master 0.5%, amex 2.5%
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QUOTE(kahhuat86 @ May 2 2011, 06:36 PM)
Assume that i need to spend on my hotel at overseas on weekend, is my Amex still entitle for 5% rebate?
Yes


QUOTE(kahhuat86 @ May 2 2011, 06:36 PM)
Is mastercard foreign exchange rate and Amex is the same, excluding the 2.5% of Amex additional charge?
No one really knows. Anyway, it is safe to assume that it is not.


QUOTE(beyond86 @ May 2 2011, 06:42 PM)
will entitle 5% cashback following malaysia time.
No. It will follow the local time.

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miles n more,
it'll follow the foreign country's local time/day? and not the weekend time at m'sia?
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QUOTE(DM3 @ May 2 2011, 07:39 PM)
miles n more,
it'll follow the foreign country's local time/day?
Yes


QUOTE(DM3 @ May 2 2011, 07:39 PM)
and not the weekend time at m'sia?
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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ May 2 2011, 07:22 PM)
Yes
No one really knows. Anyway, it is safe to assume that it is not.
No. It will follow the local time.
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Do you think if i use AMex (2.5% extra charge) with 5% rebate will still be better using the master card (0.5% additional charge)?
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QUOTE(kahhuat86 @ May 2 2011, 09:35 PM)
Do you think if i use AMex (2.5% extra charge) with 5% rebate will still be better using the master card (0.5% additional charge)?
Try to :
- read Gen-X's blog
- search for Gen-X's posts
- search for Wshoh's posts.



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QUOTE(beyond86 @ Apr 21 2011, 08:25 PM)
know from many senior here that MBB Visa/Master is lowest thumbup.gif
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May not be anymore. IMO, HSBC will provide 0.25% chargest (after off-set the 1% rebate it provides).

http://www.hsbcamanah.com.my/1/PA_1_1_S5/c.../cc_pds_amh.pdf

Look for International cash back.

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QUOTE(kahhuat86 @ May 2 2011, 09:35 PM)
Do you think if i use AMex (2.5% extra charge) with 5% rebate will still be better using the master card (0.5% additional charge)?
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Then you should get 2% cashback after the off-set. tongue.gif I tried using it oversea. Havent get my cashback yet for me to calculate.
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QUOTE(chunglern @ May 5 2011, 10:04 AM)
May not be anymore. IMO, HSBC will provide 0.25% chargest (after off-set the 1% rebate it provides).

http://www.hsbcamanah.com.my/1/PA_1_1_S5/c.../cc_pds_amh.pdf

Look for International cash back.
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@chunglern ... your attachment does not contain the 1% cashback information although the website does. Better you point to the website rather than to the PDF which does not contain that information.

If you are using the card then please provide the reference information. FYI, Maybank even uses a different forex rate vs. other banks thus their conversion is very attractive. HSBC uses a different forex rate which is higher than MBB but hypothetically the final number could be close but I'd prefer if someone make an actual comparison and not just provide the info here with proof of actual conversion in action.

You forgot to also mention that HSBC Amanah is strictly rebates with no points vs. MBB rebate+points system.
Please don't omit anything in the future ya ... let's try not to mislead our readers.
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QUOTE(hye @ May 5 2011, 05:01 PM)
@chunglern ... your attachment does not contain the 1% cashback information although the website does. Better you point to the website rather than to the PDF which does not contain that information.

If you are using the card then please provide the reference information. FYI, Maybank even uses a different forex rate vs. other banks thus their conversion is very attractive. HSBC uses a different forex rate which is higher than MBB but hypothetically the final number could be close but I'd prefer if someone make an actual comparison and not just provide the info here with proof of actual conversion in action.

You forgot to also mention that HSBC Amanah is strictly rebates with no points vs. MBB rebate+points system.
Please don't omit anything in the future ya ... let's try not to mislead our readers.
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Ooops! My bad.

Actually I called them to confirm yesterday afternoon and they confirmed that 1.25% is the admin charges which is already included in the FOREX rate.

http://www.hsbcamanah.com.my/1/2/amanah/pe...m-credit-card-i

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1.0% cash back on all overseas retail spending and 0.5% cash back on all local retail spending.

So to support my claim, from what I can understand from what the HSBC CCC rep has informed me plus what I've read on the link above, there should be only 0.25% charges for international transactions (after off-setting the 1% rebates provided).

I mentioned here that it is only a cashback card without points system @ http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=42104287

I've been posting in 2 diff tread might have thought I already mentioned... Anyway, hope that is clear enough for now, until I try it myself this coming Aug when I'm at oversea...

Will further clarify it again! smile.gif

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MAYBANK 2 CARD AMEX - USED ON SATURDAY 7th May THB 6540, MYR 666.46 exchange rate : 0.101905 including 2.5% admin fees
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eh the last i check with PB debit Visa cards is 1.0%. changed liao? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(lawliet88 @ May 11 2011, 01:16 PM)
eh the last i check with PB debit Visa cards is 1.0%. changed liao?  hmm.gif
It's 1.25% for quite sometime already.

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i think opinion from our friends here that different bank might use different exchange rate is absolutely right. charge 21060 russian rubles using SCB Business platinum just now and this translates to RM2295.73. I looked at xe.com the rate should be around RM2262.20, if we take 1% charge is still a lot more.

The website does not allow to use Amex, I was thinking 1%-0.5% cash back= Maybank plus 3 points every ringgit for overseas expenses.
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QUOTE(cenkudu @ May 12 2011, 08:14 PM)
i think opinion from our friends here that different bank might use different exchange rate is absolutely right. charge 21060 russian rubles using SCB Business platinum just now and this translates to RM2295.73. I looked at xe.com the rate should be around RM2262.20, if we take 1% charge is still a lot more.

The website does not allow to use Amex, I was thinking 1%-0.5% cash back= Maybank plus 3 points every ringgit for overseas expenses.
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Ahh i recall SCB has one of the higher exchange rates rivaling that of Amex. So is alliance bank visa.

Maybe in addition to the 'stated' exchange rates we can maintain a depository of actual exchange rates vs a common benchmark (xe.com, wawasansentosa.com etc.)
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Using SCB Business Visa
- transaction date : 11 May 2011
- amount charged in foreign currency : PHP290.00
- amount billed in MYR : RM20.61
- final exchange rate : 0.0711
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Wawasan Sentosa's Selling Rate on 11 May 2011 : 0.0715

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Mbb2amex linked paypal charged me rm3.062 for us1 on 11th May (transaction date) posted date is 13th.
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something weird happen with my transactions that I have posted recently using rubble/russion dollar. the sms alert and phone call that I've received from SCB fraud team the amount is 21060 rubble= RM 2295.73. This is steep if we consider the xe.com on that time RM 2262. The shocking news when I saw in the SCB online banking today the amount now going up to RM 2304.99 . I have emailed them to ask about this but it seems the exchange rate + 1% bank charge is quite high.

The only thing I can save is the cash back 0.5% which only about RM 11 and 3 choice points
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Posting date/Transaction date/Description/Foreign currency/Local currency/Debit/Credit/Debit Credit
17-May-2011 14-May-2011 PAYPAL USA US US$52.37 RM162.24 RM3.099/USD wawasan sentasa 3.035 on 17th
13-May-2011 11-May-2011 PAYPAL USA US US$77.80 RM238.19 RM3.062/USD wawasan sentasa 3.010 on 13th 2.99 om 11th.

M2Amex linked Paypal account.

If I were to compare wawasan rates against Amex rate, I should compare the posting date or the transaction date ?
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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ May 18 2011, 01:51 PM)
M2Amex linked Paypal account.

If I were to compare wawasan rates against Amex rate, I should compare the posting date or the transaction date ?
Transaction date

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Using SCB Business Visa
- transaction date : 14 May 2011
- amount charged in foreign currency : PHP23,228.77
- amount billed in MYR : RM1,648.38
- final exchange rate : 0.0710
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Wawasan Sentosa's Selling Rate on 14 May 2011 : 0.0715
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something weird happen with my transactions that I have posted recently using rubble/russion dollar. the sms alert and phone call that I've received from SCB fraud team the amount is 21060 rubble= RM 2295.73. This is steep if we consider the xe.com on that time RM 2262. The shocking news when I saw in the SCB online banking today the amount now going up to RM 2304.99 . I have emailed them to ask about this but it seems the exchange rate + 1% bank charge is quite high.

The only thing I can save is the cash back 0.5% which only about RM 11 and 3 choice points
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Using OCBC TITANIUM
- transaction date : 28 May 2011
- amount charged in foreign currency : SGD 33
- amount billed in MYR : RM82.33
- final exchange rate : 2.495
while i check on https://www.mastercard.com/global/currencyc...sion/index.html
the actual rate was about 2.445. It looks like SGD to MYR charged 2% on bank charges.

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QUOTE(der.msia @ May 31 2011, 09:24 PM)
while i check on https://www.mastercard.com/global/currencyc...sion/index.html
the actual rate was about 2.445. It looks like SGD to MYR charged 2% on bank charges.
Thank you so much for the link. It may not give us the actual rate but we'll at least get an idea thumbup.gif
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Using OCBC TITANIUM Mastercard
- transaction date : 03 June 2011
- amount charged in foreign currency : GBP 1000
- amount posted on 04 June 2011 : RM5,025.85
- final exchange rate : RM5.02585

https://www.mastercard.com/global/currencyc...sion/index.html
Settlement date at 02 June = RM4.9434
Settlement date at 03 June = RM4.9273

Wawasan Sentosa Selling at 03 June = RM4.99
Wawasan Sentosa Selling at 04 June = RM4.99

BNM Seling at 03 June = RM4.9282
BNM Seling at 03 June = RM4.9167 (Friday clsing)

Citibank DCA spot at 03 June = RM4.9273


Based on the Mastercard 03 June settlement rate, looks like the service charge is about 2%.

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Using OCBC TITANIUM Mastercard
- transaction date : 02 June 2011
- Posting date: 06 June 2011
- Appearing statement date 07 June 2011
- amount charged in foreign currency : THB 2578
- amount billed in MYR : 262.79
- final exchange rate : 9.81011

[url=https://www.mastercard.com/global/currencyconversion/index.html[/url]
Settlement date at 02 June =
1 THB = MYR Malaysian ringgit 0.098863
1 MYR = THB Thai baht 9.986151

wawasan rate sells THB :10.15000

Compared wawasan rate & CC
(10.15-9.81011)/10.15 = 3.35%

****Pay more than 3.35%

Compared actual rate with suggested rate
(9.986151-9.81011)/9.986151 = 1.763%

****Higher rate of 1.763%


Conclusion: The bigger amount , the "LOSS" is bigger, even taking 1% rebate into account.

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Posting / Trans
24/5 22/5 $6.47 RM20.12 ---- 3.109
17/5 14/5 $2.44 RM7.55 ---- 3.094
(if trans at weekend, get extra 5% + 5x points... not bad to use amex )



maybank mastercard
13/4 12/4 $0.99 RM3.01 --- 3.04
4/5 02/5 $5.48 RM16.38 --- 2.989
22/4 20/4 $35.97 RM109.16 --- 3.03

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Using OCBC TITANIUM Mastercard
- transaction date : 02 June 2011
- Posting date: 06 June 2011
- Appearing statement date 07 June 2011
- amount charged in foreign currency : THB 2578
- amount billed in MYR : 262.79
- final exchange rate : 9.81011

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Here are some of my transactions in SG on 25/5/2011, Posting Date all same 26/5/2011

MBB Plat MC SGD335.98 MYR829.87 Rate = 2.47 (Ratio 1 : 1)
MBB 2 AMEX SGD73.70 MYR185.86 Rate = 2.5218 (Ratio 1 : 1.02099) Therefore MBB 2 AMEX 2.1% higher than MBB MC
EON VS SGD38.49 MYR96.69 Rate =2.5121 (Ratio 1 : 1.01704) Therefore higher than MBB MC by 1.7%
OCBC TMC SGD104.90 MYR261.66 Rate = 2.4944 (Ratio 1 : 1.00987) Therefore higher than MBB MC by 1%

One thing for sure is EON Visa Signature rate is not competitive even with them giving 1% cash back for overseas transactions.
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14 Jun 2011
- USD157.70 > RM484.45 (USD1 = RM3.0720)

**Wawasan Sentosa's USD rate on 17/2/2011 was USD1 = RM3.025


Maybank
20 Jun 2011
- USD399.87 > RM1239.24 (USD1 = RM3.0991)

**Wawasan Sentosa's USD rate on 17/2/2011 was USD1 = RM3.035


It seems to me that HSBC credit card exchange rate isn't quite as bad as it was.
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18/6/11- M2 Amex

SGD 17.90 - RM 45.20 --> 2.5251

19/6/11- M2 Amex

SGD 9.36 - RM 23.62 --> 2.5235

20/6/11- OCBC Ti

SGD 22.35 RM 56.39 --> 2.5230

As you can see, the OCBC Ti Master exchange rate is on par with the M2 Amex. Unless the exchange rate fluctuate so much in 1 day which I dont think so, it is not worth using it for overseas transaction.
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- Maybank American Express with Maybank logo on top : 0.5% + 2.5%

What does it mean? Use maybank amex is 0.5%+2.5%, so total is 3%?
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- Maybank American Express with Maybank logo on top : 0.5% + 2.5%

What does it mean? Use maybank amex is 0.5%+2.5%, so total is 3%?
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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Apr 21 2011, 08:17 PM)

Local Banks
- Maybank VISA/MasterCard : 0.5%
- Maybank American Express with Maybank logo on top : [cool.gif0.5% + 2.5%[/B]
- American Express : 0.5% + 2.5%
- CIMB Bank : 1%
- Public Bank : 1.25%
- RHB Bank :
- AmBank :
- Hong Leong Bank VISA/MasterCard: 1%
- EON Bank : 1%
- Affin Bank :
- Alliance : 1%
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what does this mean? im using Maybank AMEX but my card does not have any maybank logo on top. do i fall under this category also? rclxub.gif
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what does this mean? im using Maybank AMEX but my card does not have any maybank logo on top. do i fall under this category also?  rclxub.gif
Yes. Of course. Please refer to American Express (see below).
QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Apr 21 2011, 08:17 PM)
Local Banks
- Maybank VISA/MasterCard : 0.5%
- Maybank American Express with Maybank logo on top : 0.5% + 2.5%
- American Express : 0.5% + 2.5%
- CIMB Bank : 1%
- Public Bank : 1.25%
- RHB Bank :
- AmBank :
- Hong Leong Bank VISA/MasterCard: 1%
- EON Bank : 1%
- Affin Bank :
- Alliance : 1%

Foreign Banks
- HSBC : 1.25%
- OCBC bank : 1%
- Standard Chartered : 1%
- UOB Bank : 1%
- Citibank : 1%
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Maybankard2 Visa
- transaction date : 19 July 2011
- posted date : 21 July 2011
- amount charged in foreign currency : HKD699.00
- amount billed in MYR : RM272.62
- final exchange rate : 0.3900

Maybankard2 Visa
- transaction date : 20 July 2011
- posted date : 22 July 2011
- amount charged in foreign currency : HKD1050.00
- amount billed in MYR : RM408.75
- final exchange rate : 0.3893

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Maybankard2 Visa
- transaction date : 19 July 2011
- posted date : 21 July 2011
- amount charged in foreign currency : HKD699.00
- amount billed in MYR : RM272.62
- final exchange rate : 0.3900

Maybankard2 Visa
- transaction date : 20 July 2011
- posted date : 22 July 2011
- amount charged in foreign currency : HKD1050.00
- amount billed in MYR : RM408.75
- final exchange rate : 0.3893
That's a very good rate! Wawasan Sentosa in Mid Valley was selling HKD100 for RM38.90 on 19th Jul & 20 Jul thumbup.gif

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Maybankard2 Master
- transaction date : 20 July 2011
- posted date : 22 July 2011
- amount charged in foreign currency : SG$172.80
- amount billed in MYR : RM431.54
- final exchange rate : 2.497
- Wawasan rate : 2.472
- BNM rate : 2.4708
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from where did u guys manage to get the wawasan rate? which website?

so i should pay by MBB visa since is the lowest... rite? (jz to confirm, dont tembak me)

but i need to make BT. So is stil better to pay by CIMB and then transfer d amount to mbb for 12 months instalment since the diff is only 0.5%

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Maybankard2 Visa
Transaction date : 30 July 2011
Posted date : 1 August 2011
Amount charged in foreign currency : THB1,323.00
Amount billed in MYR : RM133.50
Final exchange rate : THB100 = RM10.0907

Maybankard2 American Express
Transaction date : 30 July 2011
Posted date : 1 August 2011
Amount charged in foreign currency : THB795.00
Amount billed in MYR : RM81.26
Final exchange rate : THB100 = RM10.2214

Maybankard2 American Express
Transaction date : 30 July 2011
Posted date : 1 August 2011
Amount charged in foreign currency : THB1,043.00
Amount billed in MYR : RM106.65
Final exchange rate : THB100 = RM10.2253

Maybankard2 American Express
Transaction date : 31 July 2011
Posted date : 2 August 2011
Amount charged in foreign currency : THB2,760.00
Amount billed in MYR : RM283.32
Final exchange rate : THB100 = RM10.2652

**Wawasan Sentosa's Thai Baht rate on 30/7/11 & 31/7/11 was THB100 = RM10.10


By the way, all the transactions on 30/7/11 (3 different transactions in total) were done in about 20 minutes apart.


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After factoring the 5% rebate for amex weekends + 5X points, is maybank visa or maybank amex better?
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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Aug 5 2011, 02:16 PM)
After factoring the 5% rebate for amex weekends + 5X points, is maybank visa or maybank amex better?
MBB2 AMEX definitely better but the thing is, i did get the 5x TP but not the 5% weekend cash rebate. I am still waiting for their written reply. Will call their CS as soon as i get it.

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Aug 5 2011, 02:34 PM)
MBB2 AMEX definitely better but the thing is, i did get the 5x TP but not the 5% weekend cash rebate. I am still waiting for their written reply. Will call their CS as soon as i get it.
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A few users also mentioned that Transaction on 30-31 July 2011 (weekend), didn't credit the 5% rebate.
Maybe it's counted for next month's rebate... but I think that's not really fair.
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correct me if i am wrong, 5% rebate for overseas transactions rebate are based on the posting date so perhaps this is the reason 1-2 August ones are not eligible...
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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Aug 5 2011, 03:46 PM)
correct me if i am wrong, 5% rebate for overseas transactions rebate are based on the posting date so perhaps this is the reason 1-2 August ones are not eligible...
zenquix has confirmed that even overseas transactions made with the MBB2 AMEX are based on the transaction date and not the posting date.

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well then you stand to get the 5% ;-)
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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Aug 5 2011, 03:56 PM)
zenquix has confirmed that even overseas transactions made with the MBB2 AMEX are based on the transaction date and not the posting date.
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i thk this happened due to the last day of the month and the last weekend of the month falls on the same day
normally the transaction would have posted before the cash back calculation

maybe mbb need to shift the cash back calculation to the 2nd or 3rd day of the month to avoid this
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Maybank VISA/MasterCard : 0.5%
Maybank American Express with Maybank logo on top : 0.5% + 2.5%

Let's say I am charging RM3000 equivalent of foreign currency to my card, comparing between AMEX and VISA

Weekends
AMEX: + RM50 (5% max rebate) + RM75 (15000 TP) - RM90 (0.5% + 2.5% service charge) = + RM35
VISA: + RM15 (3000 TP) - RM15 (0.5% service charge) = 0

Weekdays
AMEX: + RM75 (15000 TP) - RM90 (0.5% + 2.5% service charge) = - RM15
VISA: + RM15 (3000 TP) - RM15 (0.5% service charge) = 0

Can I conclude that use AMEX on weekends; use VISA on weekdays?

Assumption: The exchange rate for the same bank is the same, the only diffrence is the service charge. Is this correct?


Added on August 7, 2011, 9:57 pmOn a second thought, it is only worth it to use AMEX as long as it does'nt dip to negative.

Clarification from zenquix:
QUOTE(zenquix @ Aug 8 2011, 04:50 PM)
all foreign transactions - Visa and Amex (and Mastercard) will be converted to USD first before being converted to MYR for settlement.

Also Human Nature's assumption is flawed - Amex and Visa are 2 different companies and may impose different foreign exchange rates (for the same time, same place etc.)

Maybank is only an issuer and will impose charges on top of the exchange rate given by the credit card companies.
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Maybankard2 AMEX
Transaction date : 10 August 2011
Posted date : 11 August 2011
Amount charged in foreign currency : SGD22.36
Amount billed in MYR : RM57.27
Final exchange rate : SGD1 = RM2.5613

Transaction date : 11 August 2011
Posted date : 12 August 2011
Amount charged in foreign currency : SGD9.19
Amount billed in MYR : RM23.48
Final exchange rate : SGD1 = RM2.5550

Transaction date : 11 August 2011
Posted date : 12 August 2011
Amount charged in foreign currency : SGD9.08
Amount billed in MYR : RM23.17
Final exchange rate : SGD1 = RM2.5518

Maybankard2 Visa
Transaction date : 12 August 2011
Posted date : 14 August 2011
Amount charged in foreign currency : SGD8.90
Amount billed in MYR : RM22.36
Final exchange rate : SGD1 = RM2.5124

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QUOTE(ronnie @ Aug 14 2011, 10:26 PM)
Maybankard2 AMEX
Transaction date : 10 August 2011
Posted date : 11 August 2011
Amount charged in foreign currency : SGD22.36
Amount billed in MYR : RM57.27
Final exchange rate : SGD1 = RM2.5613

Transaction date : 11 August 2011
Posted date : 12 August 2011
Amount charged in foreign currency : SGD9.19
Amount billed in MYR : RM23.48
Final exchange rate : SGD1 = RM2.5550

Transaction date : 11 August 2011
Posted date : 12 August 2011
Amount charged in foreign currency : SGD9.08
Amount billed in MYR : RM23.17
Final exchange rate : SGD1 = RM2.5518
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Mind to ask why the selection of AMEX on weekday as Maybankad2 Master should be lower exchange? 5x TP?
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Mind to ask why the selection of AMEX on weekday as Maybankad2 Master should be lower exchange? 5x TP?
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Because it's company expenses ;-) with 5X TP
If for personal expense, I would have used Maybankard2 Visa instead.

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Transaction Date :
30/6/11 : NZD 40 -> MYR 102.73, Rate : 2.56825, Visa Rate : 2.505586
2/7/11 : NZD300 -> MYR 765.22, Rate : 2.55073, Visa Rate : 2.488534
17/7/11 : NZD88.68 -> MYR 230.55, Rate : 2.59980, Visa Rate : 2.536382

UOB Visa card has consistently charged 2.5% Fees on top of the Visa Corporate Rate on http://corporate.visa.com/pd/consumer_serv...er_ex_rates.jsp


My question :
Which daily foreign exchange rate is better, Visa Card or Master Card (without considering the additional admin fees imposed by the banks) ?
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QUOTE(anwong @ Aug 25 2011, 11:56 AM)
Which daily foreign exchange rate is better, Visa Card or Master Card (without considering the additional admin fees imposed by the banks)  ?
It's more or less the same. Just use Maybank credit card when overseas. Problem solved.

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DA (CIMB) VI vs SCB JustOne Titanium MC
Transaction Date: 19/8/2011

CIMB - RM1 = INR15.0412
SCB - RM1 = INR15.0128

SCB rate is 0.19% higher.

DA (CIMB) VI vs Maybank 2 Platinum Amex
Transaction Date: 17/8/2011

CIMB - RM1 = BDT24.5918
Amex - RM1 = BDT24.4197

Amex rate is 0.70% higher.
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It's more or less the same. Just use Maybank credit card when overseas. Problem solved.
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Is this correct?

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Final amount charged = Amount in foreign currency + Admin rate (imposed by the bank, e.g. 0.5% Maybank visa) + Foreign exchange rate (imposed by visa/mastercard/amex)



Added on September 4, 2011, 6:23 pmIf the above is correct, comparing between Maybank Visa and SCB Plat Business Visa is as follows:

MBB : 0.5% (1x points) - 0.5% (charge) = 0
SCB : 0.5% (cashback) + 1.5% (3x points) - 1% (charge) = 1% ('gain')

In this case, both are Visas hence same forex rate. Am I missing something here?


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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Sep 4 2011, 06:18 PM)

SCB : 0.5% (cashback) + 1.5% (3x points) - 1% (charge) = 1% ('gain')

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it is thus 1.07% for the 3x points
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it is thus 1.07% for the 3x points
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Not sure, still waiting for expert to guide. I am still not sure if this is correct:

Final amount charged = Amount in foreign currency + Admin rate (imposed by the bank, e.g. 0.5% Maybank visa) + Foreign exchange rate (imposed by visa/mastercard/amex)

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My usage of my cards while I was in Australia.

Maybank2Kard Mastercard

Posting Date 06-Sep-2011
Transaction Date 05-Sep-2011

A$277.12 RM881.54 (3.181)

Posting Date 06-Sep-2011
Transaction Date 02-Sep-2011

A$29.99 RM94.44 (3.149)

Posting Date 05-Sep-2011
Transaction Date 03-Sep-2011

A$118.00 RM375.37 (3.181)


Maybank2Kard Amex

Posting Date 05-Sep-2011
Transaction Date 03-Sep-2011

A$3.48 RM11.45 (3.290)

Posting Date 05-Sep-2011
Transaction Date 03-Sep-2011

A$5.98 RM19.70 (3.294)

Posting Date 05-Sep-2011
Transaction Date 03-Sep-2011

A$25.96 RM85.55 (3.294)

Posting Date 30-Aug-2011
Transaction Date 28-Aug-2011

A$50.00 RM161.93 (3.239)


OCBC Ti MC

Transaction Date 30-Aug-2011
A$45.45 RM146.98 (3.234)

Transaction Date 31-Aug-2011
A$27.80 RM89.91 (3.234)

Transaction Date 02-Sep-2011
A$3.98 RM12.78 (3.211)


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i presume you used OCBC Ti because its for dining/grocery?
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Maybank2 Card Amex

Transaction date: 3/Sept/11
Posting date: 6/Sept/11

USD11.32 --> RM34.68 (3.0636)


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Maybank2 Card Amex

Transaction date: 3/Sept/11
Posting date: 6/Sept/11

USD11.32 --> RM34.68 (3.0636)
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VISA or MasterCard from Maybank.

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Maybankard2 Amex
Transaction date : 11 Sept 2011
Posted date : 12 Sept 2011
Amount charged in foreign currency : THB370.00
Amount billed in MYR : RM37.95
Final exchange rate : THB100 = RM10.2214

Wawasansentosa rate on 11/9/11 = THB100 = RM10.15

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QUOTE(weihong @ Sep 13 2011, 09:50 PM)
Posting = 12-Sep-2011
Transaction date = 11-Sep-2011
ASTONS SPECIALITIES SINGAPORE  SG S$19.30   RM49.07
Convertion SGD1 to RM2.5425  rclxub.gif
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Maybankard2 Amex
Transaction date : 10 Sept 2011
Posted date : 12 Sept 2011
Amount charged in foreign currency : SGD 16.90
Amount billed in MYR : RM42.99
Final exchange rate : SGD1 = RM2.54

Wawasansentosa rate on 11/9/11 = SGD1 = RM2.46

Maybankard2 Amex
Transaction date : 10 Sept 2011
Posted date : 12 Sept 2011
Amount charged in foreign currency : SGD 57.95
Amount billed in MYR : RM147.37
Final exchange rate : SGD1= RM2.54

Wawasansentosa rate on 11/9/11 = SGD1 = RM2.46

About 3.66% for Amex transaction fees, but complimented back by 5% rebate and 5x TP

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QUOTE(shortleg88 @ Sep 14 2011, 09:17 AM)
Maybankard2 Amex
Transaction date : 10 Sept 2011
Posted date : 12 Sept 2011
Amount charged in foreign currency : SGD 16.90
Amount billed in MYR : RM42.99
Final exchange rate : SGD1 = RM2.54

Wawasansentosa rate on 11/9/11 = THB100 = RM10.15

Maybankard2 Amex
Transaction date : 10 Sept 2011
Posted date : 12 Sept 2011
Amount charged in foreign currency : SGD 57.95
Amount billed in MYR : RM147.37
Final exchange rate : THB100 = RM2.54

Wawasansentosa rate on 11/9/11 = SGD1 = RM2.46

About 3.66% for Amex transaction fees, but complimented back by 5% rebate and 5x TP
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typo error?
Wawasansentosa rate on 11/9/11 = THB100 = RM10.15

Final exchange rate : THB100 = RM2.54

by the way you put in the wrong colomn too very confusing when i first read your post
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Let's say I purchased an item priced at HKD100.00 using MBB Visa.

On 15-Sept-2011, the amount in MYR is:

Real exchange rate is: RM39.68
http://finance.yahoo.com/currency-converte...YR;to=HKD;amt=1

Wawasan Sentosa exchange rate is: RM39.65
http://www.wawasanmoneychanger.com.my/exch...p?currentPage=2

Visa exchange rate is: RM39.589 (visa rate estimator using with a bank foreign transaction fee of 0.5% for MBB Visa)
http://corporate.visa.com/pd/consumer_serv...er_ex_rates.jsp

This means that RM39.589 will appear in my card's statement, which is lower than the rates imposed by Wawasan Sentosa and real case sweat.gif
This is logically not possible, so what am i missing here?

Taking a step further, 1 TP = 0.5%, so after minus the treatpoint equivalent, it's RM39.391.

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Let's say I purchased an item priced at HKD100.00 using MBB Visa.

On 15-Sept-2011, the amount in MYR is:

Real exchange rate is: RM39.68
http://finance.yahoo.com/currency-converte...YR;to=HKD;amt=1

Wawasan Sentosa exchange rate is: RM39.65
http://www.wawasanmoneychanger.com.my/exch...p?currentPage=2

Visa exchange rate is: RM39.589 (visa rate estimator using with a bank foreign transaction fee of 0.5% for MBB Visa)
http://corporate.visa.com/pd/consumer_serv...er_ex_rates.jsp

This means that RM39.589 will appear in my card's statement, which is lower than the rates imposed by Wawasan Sentosa and real case  sweat.gif
This is logically not possible, so what am i missing here?

Taking a step further, 1 TP = 0.5%, so after minus the treatpoint equivalent, it's RM39.391.
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It's going to be higher than the rate quoted by VISA International, but with Maybankard VISA/MasterCard, the difference won't be much. It will be close to the rate quoted by Wawasan Sentosa.

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Sep 16 2011, 05:52 PM)
It's going to be higher than the rate quoted by VISA International, but with Maybankard VISA/MasterCard, the difference won't be much. It will be close to the rate quoted by Wawasan Sentosa.
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Which one would you recommend me to use for the following scenario?

Normal item:
Maybank Visa (0.5% bank rate, 1x point)
vs
SCB Business Visa (1% bank rate, 0.5% cashback, 3x points)

Dining:
Maybank Visa (0.5% bank rate, 1x point)
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OCBC Ti Mastercard (1% bank rate, 5% cashback)

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Which one would you recommend me to use for the following scenario?

Normal item:
Maybank Visa (0.5% bank rate, 1x point)
vs
SCB Business Visa (1% bank rate, 0.5% cashback, 3x points)


Dining:
Maybank Visa (0.5% bank rate, 1x point)
vs
OCBC Ti Mastercard (1% bank rate, 5% cashback)
Hmm... Up to you actually. I'll always use Maybank VISA overseas. Will only use MBB2 AMEX during weekend (assume i haven't maxed out the 5% cash back for that month).

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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Sep 16 2011, 07:20 PM)
Which one would you recommend me to use for the following scenario?

Normal item:
Maybank Visa (0.5% bank rate, 1x point)
vs
SCB Business Visa (1% bank rate, 0.5% cashback, 3x points)

Dining:
Maybank Visa (0.5% bank rate, 1x point)
vs
OCBC Ti Mastercard (1% bank rate, 5% cashback)

Thanks
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I would not risk using OCBC Ti anymore as few of the cafe I went in Melb (could happen in other places too) does not reg the 5% rebate MCC. If you are 100% sure that it is in 5% category, then go ahead else I would use the Maybank Visa.

But on weekend, using the Amex still gives you more rebate despite the 2.5% charges.
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QUOTE(tifosi @ Sep 18 2011, 03:09 AM)
I would not risk using OCBC Ti anymore as few of the cafe I went in Melb (could happen in other places too) does not reg the 5% rebate MCC. If you are 100% sure that it is in 5% category, then go ahead else I would use the Maybank Visa.

But on weekend, using the Amex still gives you more rebate despite the 2.5% charges.
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I could like to ask, I better use Maybank Cerry Debit Visa or PBB Day 2Day Visa when I go oversea? Maybank no cash rebate but they send email to me stated that no conversion fee been imposed, PBB charged 1.255% with US dollar as base currency but got 0.3% cash back.

Or I just use my HLB Credit card/ Citibank Visa?

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I could like to ask, I better use Maybank Cerry Debit Visa or PBB Day 2Day Visa when I go oversea? Maybank no cash rebate but they send email to me stated that no conversion fee been imposed, PBB charged 1.255% with US dollar as base currency but got 0.3% cash back.

Or I just use my HLB Credit card/ Citibank Visa?
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mbb debit card no have conversion fees? 0.5%?
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Transaction date: 23-9-11
Posting date: 25-9-11
Currency transacted: Euro (EUR)

OCBC Titanium MC: EUR1 = RM4.3253
Maybankard 2 Platinum Visa: EUR1 = RM4.3212

Maybank Visa rate is only 0.09% lower than OCBC MC rate.
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Currency transaction in: Hong Kong dollars

Maybankard 2 Platinum AMEX: HK$1 = RM40.87

I did the transaction on Sunday thus I got 5% rebate -> HK$1 = RM38.82




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It would be better if you could compare 2 cards. One card doesn't tell anything.
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QUOTE(winner @ Sep 30 2011, 11:16 PM)
Transaction date: 23-9-11
Posting date: 25-9-11
Currency transacted: Euro (EUR)

OCBC Titanium MC: EUR1 = RM4.3253
Maybankard 2 Platinum Visa: EUR1 = RM4.3212

Maybank Visa rate is only 0.09% lower than OCBC MC rate.
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In my article Overseas Transaction What Credit Card Is The Best? Part II, there was once MBB Visa and DA WMC rate almost same but on another day the diff was close to 1%. See spoiler below
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Transaction date: 18-9-11
Posting date: 19-9-11
Currency transaction in: Hong Kong dollars

Maybankard 2 Platinum AMEX: HK$1 = RM40.87
I did the transaction on Sunday thus I got 5% rebate -> HK$1 = RM38.82
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You meant HK$100
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Wawasan sentosa no longer update their website.. hmmm last update on 29 Sep 2011
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Using OCBC TITANIUM Mastercard
- transaction date : 08/10/2011
- amount charged in foreign currency : EUR703.00
- amount posted on 08/10/2011 : RM3,039.27
- final exchange rate : RM4.3233

https://www.mastercard.com/global/currencyc...sion/index.html
Settlement date 07/10/2011 = RM4.2385
Settlement date 10/10/2011 = RM4.2440

Wawasan Sentosa Selling at 08/10/2011 = na
Wawasan Sentosa Selling at 08/10/2011 = na

BNM Seling on 07/10/2011 = RM4.2443


Based on the Mastercard 07/10/2011 settlement rate, OCBC service charge is about 2%.


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If travel better use cash cos can change at lower rate compare to bank exchange rate wif your credit card
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If travel better use cash cos can change at lower rate compare to bank exchange rate wif your credit card
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My experience with Maybankard2 MasterCard

Transaction date : 27/10/11
Posted date : 29/10/11 (always 3 days later)
Amount charged in foreign currency : £69.00
Amount billed in MYR : RM345.42
Exchange rate posted in MasterCard Currency Conversion Tool: 0.20175
Service Fee: 0.99%

I've done more than 50 transactions between £ and RM, and I found that 0.99% is always true. smile.gif

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I swiped HKD 960 with MBB Visa but I chose to settle in MYR at MYR 400.22. The conversion rate is 0.4169 (2.3987) on the receipt.

Which method will be better (lower fee involved)? To swipe in HKD? Or to settle in MYR?

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I swiped HKD 960 with MBB Visa but I chose to settle in MYR at MYR 400.22. The conversion rate is 0.4169 (2.3987) on the receipt.

Which method will be better (lower fee involved)? To swipe in HKD? Or to settle in MYR?

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Transaction date : 26/10/11
Posted date : 28/10/11
Amount charged in foreign currency : TWD5000
Amount billed in MYR : RM528.84
Rate = 0.105768


Currencies fluctuate every day. The rate shown is effective for transactions submitted to Visa on October 28, 2011, with a bank foreign transaction fee of 1%.
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Currencies fluctuate every day. The rate shown is effective for transactions submitted to Visa on October 26, 2011, with a bank foreign transaction fee of 1%.
1 New Taiwan Dollar = 0.105025 Malaysian Ringgit

Barring intra-day movements, Maybank may charging abt 1% now
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QUOTE(David83 @ Nov 1 2011, 08:33 PM)
I swiped HKD 960 with MBB Visa but I chose to settle in MYR at MYR 400.22. The conversion rate is 0.4169 (2.3987) on the receipt.

Which method will be better (lower fee involved)? To swipe in HKD? Or to settle in MYR?

Thank you.
Definitely HKD.

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Definitely HKD.
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Any reason why? Sorry I'm new in foreign currency transaction.
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Because it's higher conversion from an overseas merchant bank compared to Malaysian bank.
Tried and you shall see.
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Any reason why? Sorry I'm new in foreign currency transaction.
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OT: Just found today that Wawasan Sentosa no licensed to be Money Changer any more...thus no more forex update on their website.
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HLB Hello Kitty Debit Card Mastercard

Transaction date : 06/11/11
Posted date : 08/11/11
Amount charged in foreign currency : HKD190.00
Amount billed in MYR : RM77.62
Exchange rate posted in Mastercard Exchange Rate Tools: 2.488978
Service Fee: 1.655%

Maybankard Cherry Visa

Transaction date : 07/11/11
Posted date : 09/11/11
Amount charged in foreign currency : HKD251.00
Amount billed in MYR : RM102.13
Exchange rate posted in Visa Exchange Rate Tools: 40.3267
Service Fee: 0.9%

HLB Hello Kitty Debit Card Mastercard

Transaction date : 07/11/11
Posted date : 09/11/11
Amount charged in foreign currency : HKD110.00
Amount billed in MYR : RM45.07
Exchange rate posted in Mastercard Exchange Rate Tools: 2.504189
Service Fee: 2.537%

I only swipe three transaction with my debit card but credit card haven't updated.

HLB Platinum Mastercard

Transaction date : 30/10/11
Posted date : 01/11/11
Amount charged in foreign currency : HKD552.00
Amount billed in MYR : RM221.58
Exchange rate posted in Mastercard Exchange Rate Tools: 2.525585
Service Fee: 1.381%


EON Platinum Mastercard

Transaction date: 07/07/11
Posted date : 08/07/11
Amount charged in foreign currency : SGD 366.60
Amount billed in MYR : RM 918.45
Exchange rate posted in Mastercard Exchange Rate Tools : 2.45176
Service Fee : 1.021 %


Transaction date: 30/10/11
Posted date : 31/10/11
Amount charged in foreign currency : HKD 552.00
Amount billed in MYR : RM 222.02
Exchange rate posted in Mastercard Exchange Rate Tools : 2.551940
Service Fee : 1.026 %

Transaction date: 07/11/11
Posted date : 08/11/11
Amount charged in foreign currency : HKD 404.10
Amount billed in MYR : RM 165.59
Exchange rate posted in Mastercard Exchange Rate Tools : 2.488978
Service Fee : 1.019 %

Transaction date: 07/11/11
Posted date : 08/11/11
Amount charged in foreign currency : HKD 1167.00
Amount billed in MYR : RM 478.21
Exchange rate posted in Mastercard Exchange Rate Tools : 2.488978
Service Fee : 1.019 %


Transaction date: 07/11/11
Posted date : 08/11/11
Amount charged in foreign currency : HKD 836.80
Amount billed in MYR : RM 342.91
Exchange rate posted in Mastercard Exchange Rate Tools : 2.488978
Service Fee : 1.019 %

Transaction date: 09/11/11
Posted date : 10/11/11
Amount charged in foreign currency : HKD 319.20
Amount billed in MYR : RM 130.01
Exchange rate posted in Mastercard Exchange Rate Tools : 2.493111
Service Fee :

Transaction date: 11/11/11
Posted date : 12/11/11
Amount charged in foreign currency : HKD 503.00
Amount billed in MYR : RM 206.87
Exchange rate posted in Mastercard Exchange Rate Tools : 2.480071
Service Fee : 1.02 %

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going to overseas tomorrow
a very quick question to ask.

would you rather use your mbb visa/master or ocbc tit abroad?
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going to overseas tomorrow
a very quick question to ask.

would you rather use your mbb visa/master or ocbc tit abroad?
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Use the MBB cause it provides lower service charges unless you are absolute sure of the MCC that you are going to get the 5% discount for the OCBC. There are few cafes I went in Melb did not reg my transaction under the 5% category.
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QUOTE(tifosi @ Nov 22 2011, 10:25 AM)
Use the MBB cause it provides lower service charges unless you are absolute sure of the MCC that you are going to get the 5% discount for the OCBC. There are few cafes I went in Melb did not reg my transaction under the 5% category.
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but isnt that OCBC, we get 1% discount.

is my calculation below correct?

MBB: 100 + 0.5% : RM100.50
OCBC: (100+0.5%)-1%: 98.995
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^ It is 1% charge for OCBC from the first post, not 0.5%.
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QUOTE(andyfriends @ Nov 22 2011, 10:39 AM)
but isnt that OCBC, we get 1% discount.

is my calculation below correct?

MBB:  100 + 0.5% :  RM100.50 
OCBC:  (100+1%)-1%: 98.995
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MBB: 100 + 0.5% : RM100.50
MBB duo: (100+0.5%+2.5%) 5 % weekend: RM97.86
OCBC: (100+1%)-1%: RM99.99

stil cheap hor?

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^ It is 1% charge for OCBC from the first post, not 0.5%.
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QUOTE(ronnie @ Nov 22 2011, 02:07 PM)
I believe the admin fee for OCBC is higher than 1%...
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i called ocbc, they told me 1 % hmm...
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i called ocbc, they told me 1 % hmm...
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QUOTE(gerrardling @ Nov 22 2011, 02:23 PM)
if there is any promotion for OCBC card, just use OCBC. Else use Maybank visa or master. Its up to you want to listen or not
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reasons please...

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QUOTE(andyfriends @ Nov 22 2011, 02:35 PM)
reasons please...
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As explained by other already that their currency forex rate are lower. They stated that their admin fee is 1% but after convert it will be higher than 1%. As I mentioned in my previous post; HLB mastercard say admin fee is 1% but after few transaction and after covert the admin fee is still higher than 1%... If you don't want to listen then you can try and swipe your card oversea, after the billing, you let us know or proves to us that the admin fee is 1%....
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QUOTE(MandyG @ Nov 22 2011, 06:17 PM)
As explained by other already that their currency forex rate are lower. They stated that their admin fee is 1% but after convert it will be higher than 1%. As I mentioned in my previous post; HLB mastercard say admin fee is 1% but after few transaction and after covert the admin fee is still higher than 1%... If you don't want to listen then you can try and swipe your card oversea, after the billing, you let us know or proves to us that the admin fee is 1%....
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i called ocbc, they told me 1 % hmm...
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QUOTE(andyfriends @ Nov 22 2011, 07:49 PM)
oh i get u. i think admin is still at 1% is just that the currency rate is higher than others offered by the bank.  thx for explaning tongue.gif
The exchange rate is actually determined by VISA or MasterCard, depends on what card brand you are using.

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Nov 22 2011, 10:15 PM)
The exchange rate is actually determined by VISA or MasterCard, depends on what card brand you are using.
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u mean regardless the bank, there are only 2 rates that is visa / master?
which is lower?
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Sample expenditure in London recently:

Transaction Date: 4th November 2011:

American Express Platinum Charge Card

Amount in foreign currency: GBP 858.35
After conversion: RM 4,450.90


Standard Chartered PB Visa Infinite

Amount in foreign currency: GBP 24.00
After conversion: RM 122.94


Maybankard World Mastercard

Amount in foreign currency: GBP 43.48
After conversion: RM 219.16

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QUOTE(rockefeller @ Nov 22 2011, 11:05 PM)
Sample expenditure in London recently:

Transaction Date: 4th November 2011:

American Express Platinum Charge Card

Amount in foreign currency: GBP 858.35
After conversion: RM 4,450.90
Standard Chartered PB Visa Infinite

Amount in foreign currency: GBP 24.00
After conversion: RM 122.94
Maybankard World Mastercard

Amount in foreign currency: GBP 43.48
After conversion: RM 219.16
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it appears that master has a lover currency rate.
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OT: Just found today that Wawasan Sentosa no licensed to be Money Changer any more...thus no more forex update on their website.
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I'm so confused as to how to do the currency conversion, m quite a dumy. anyhow, I used MBB Visa and OCBC Tit overseas. Alth the bank charges of OCBC is higher, with the 1/5% is still cheaper than MBB Visa. Of course, without the cash rebate, MBB is stil cheaper.

Please see below the comparison.



Transaction Date: 26.11.2011
(MBB Visa)
Amount in foreign currency: IDR 90300
After conversion: RM 32.16
Rate: RM1: IDR 2807.84


Transaction Date: 26.11.2011
(OCBC Tit), I just checked and I got 5% rebate.
Amount in foreign currency: IDR 91,000
After conversion: RM 32.55

(assuming 0%, no rebate): RM32.55
Rate: RM1: IDR 2795.67

(assuming 1%): RM32.22
Rate: RM1: IDR 2823.94

(assuming 5%): RM30.92
Rate: RM1: IDR 2942.84





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may i know what credit card have low rate of exchange as i can apply PLatinum or higher...
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QUOTE(MandyG @ Dec 1 2011, 02:37 AM)
may i know what credit card have low rate of exchange as i can apply PLatinum or higher...
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Maybankard's Visa or Mastercard offers the lowest forex rate...
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Money changers in Malaysia provide a super uncompetitive exchange rate for TWD, hence using your Maybankard VISA or MasterCard can save you more money. I bought my TWD here before going to Taipei last week for TWD100 = RM10.90 but the final rate give by Maybank is just around TWD100 = RM10.50. This can translate into a huge savings if you spend a lot.

Another way of getting the TWD near market rate is by buying USD here in Malaysia and use your USD to buy TWD at Taipei Taoyuan Airport. However, the final rate (after two conversion losses) is around the rate given by Maybankard VISA/MC. So overall, it's still wiser to your your Maybankard VISA/MC in Taiwan whenever possible because Maybank gives you TP while cash is just cash sweat.gif Cash is still essential though, of course because it's the only accepted form of payment at their famous night markets biggrin.gif
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How about Maybankard Cherry Visa? Beginning this year at Feb, my sis tried her EON Mastercard swipe at Taiwan, the rate are super cheap. We exchange the moment is TWD 100= RM 10.70.... Her final exchange rate is TWD 100= RM 10.30 and can go downer by TWD 100= RM10.00......
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just wondering if paying using CC via paypal is there any other hidden charges to the final forex amount beside the bank admin fee and forex exchange?


Added on December 11, 2011, 7:34 amUsing Maybank visa
- transaction date : 9 Dec 2011
- amount charged in foreign currency : 51.65 pound
- amount posted on 11/12/11 : RM 258.76
- final exchange rate : RM 5.009

according to http://corporate.visa.com/pd/consumer_serv....jsp?src=ex_rez

exchange rate + 0% admin: 4.92
exchange rate + 0.5% admin: 4.94

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QUOTE(cenkudu @ Dec 11 2011, 06:48 AM)
just wondering if paying using CC via paypal is there any other hidden charges to the final forex amount beside the bank admin fee and forex exchange?


Added on December 11, 2011, 7:34 amUsing Maybank visa
- transaction date : 9 Dec 2011
- amount charged in foreign currency : 51.65 pound
- amount posted on 11/12/11 : RM 258.76
- final exchange rate : RM 5.009

according to http://corporate.visa.com/pd/consumer_serv....jsp?src=ex_rez

exchange rate + 0% admin: 4.92
exchange rate + 0.5% admin: 4.94
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ic...good lesson after this I will pay directly to the merchant secure website instead of paypal. thanks really appreciate
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QUOTE(cenkudu @ Dec 11 2011, 10:38 AM)
ic...good lesson after this I will pay directly to the merchant secure website instead of paypal. thanks really appreciate
Makes no difference really because the exchange is done by your credit card issuer bank. So whether you pay directly or via Paypal, you will still be billed the same amount in MYR because for any other foreign currency other than USD, it will first be converted to USD and finally MYR.

By the way, if you pay using VISA or MasterCard via Paypal in foreign currency, you will be given a choice to be billed in that foreign currency and wait for your credit card issuer bank to bill you the amount in MYR or you can follow Paypal's exchange rate and be billed in MYR right away. It is however, not recommended to use Paypal's exchange rate especially if you are using a Maybank VISA or MasterCard because Paypal's own exchange rate is high.

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i did not realized this option however if the receipt is the foreign currency most likely i'm not using paypal exchange rate right?
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i did not realized this option however if the receipt is the foreign currency most likely i'm not using paypal exchange rate right?
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Saturday:
m2 amex plat USD864 = RM2777.64 exch rate :
3.214861111111111
USD12.99 = RM41.76 (1 hour apart on same card)
3.214780600461894

Same day, almost same time
CIMB Visa Signature USD42 = RM135.17 exch rate:
3.218333333333333


Conclusion M2 AMEX More WORTH IT!... 5X point + 5% ! and somemore LOWER exchange rate !
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Maybank Visa Plat

Transaction date: 2 Dec 2011
Posting date: 15 Dec 2011
Amount charged: GBP615.75
Amount posted: RM3,087.16

Which Forex date (2 or 15 Dec) & rate (Maybank or Visa) should I refer to?

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Maybank Visa Plat

Transaction date: 2 Dec 2011
Posting date: 15 Dec 2011
Amount charged: GBP615.75
Amount posted: RM3,087.16

Which Forex date (2 or 15 Dec) & rate (Maybank or Visa) should I refer to?
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for dates check both. some banks use trx date, some banks use posting date. It just a matter of comparison.

for rates, I usually use Visa or xe.com. Previously was wawasan sentosa but now not an option. Not sure abt the others
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Maybank Visa Infinite

Transaction Date: 31 December 2011
Posting Date: 1 January 2012
Online Transaction Amount: USD610.00
Amount Billed by Maybank: RM1959.46
Therefore conversion rate = 1959.46/610 = 3.2122
Visa's Rate on 1st Jan 2012 = 3.1725

Transaction Date: 22 December 2011
Posting Date: 23 December 2012
Face to face Transaction Amount: SGD560
Amount Billed by Maybank: RM1,395.92
Therefore conversion rate = 1395.92/560 = 2.4927
Visa's Rate on 23rd December 2011 = 2.46187

Edited

Both above Admin Fee > 1% sad.gif and it's a MBB credit card.

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Amex plat CC

Transaction Date: 30 December 2011
Posting Date: 31 December 2012
Face to face Transaction Amount: SGD1,027
Amount Billed by Maybank: RM2,576.53
Therefore conversion rate = 2,576.53/1,027 = 2.50879

So much on the high side IMO. BNM rate on the 30th is only 2.4427 sweat.gif

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I just posted an article on my Maybank Visa Infinite transactions mentioned above.

And based on Visa rate, the MBB's Overseas Admin Fee is like 1.25% shakehead.gif Click below link to read more.

http://creditcardsmalaysia.blogspot.com/20...ybank-visa.html

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Earlier we have the link to Visa's own exchange rate website. Is this the correct exchange rate website for MasterCard: https://www.mastercard.com/global/currencyc...sion/index.html ?

So in doing this calculation for service fee is it best to use the respective credit card websites? If Visa card use Visa website and so on?
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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Jan 4 2012, 08:48 PM)
I just posted an article on my Maybank Visa Infinite transactions mentioned above.

And based on Visa rate, the MBB's Overseas Admin Fee is like 1.25%  shakehead.gif  Click below link to read more.
Yeah, I was quite surprised by your figures. What happened to the supposed 0.5% service fee?
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anyone holding citibank? i called up, their said no service/admin charge


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Ok, I have analyzed some of my transactions from Dec 2011 and tabulated it in Excel. The result:

MBB MasterCard Gold, USD to MYR
Note: transaction date is taken from the statement. Actual rate is from dividing USD/MYR from the statement.

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My observations:

1. The rates quoted from different sources can vary quite a bit. So when comparing as posted by different forumers here it is important to be consistent with the source quote.

2. The Visa rate is consistently higher than the MasterCard rate. In particular on some days (21, 22 and 23 Dec) it is a lot higher.

3. The MasterCard rate is the lowest, even compared to XE and Yahoo.

4. The surcharge for MasterCard in my case is consistently 1.03%. Again what happened to the 0.5% as mentioned by MBB?

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QUOTE(jchong @ Jan 5 2012, 07:47 PM)
Ok, I have analyzed some of my transactions from Dec 2011 and tabulated it in Excel. The result:

MBB MasterCard Gold, USD to MYR
Note: transaction date is taken from the statement. Actual rate is from dividing USD/MYR from the statement.

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My observations:

1. The rates quoted from different sources can vary quite a bit. So when comparing as posted by different forumers here it is important to be consistent with the source quote.

2. The Visa rate is consistently higher than the MasterCard rate. In particular on some days (21, 22 and 23 Dec) it is a lot higher.

3. The MasterCard rate is the lowest, even compared to XE and Yahoo.

4. The surcharge for MasterCard in my case is consistently 1.03%. Again what happened to the 0.5% as mentioned by MBB?
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anyone holding citibank? i called up, their said no service/admin charge
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I have two and i am absolutely sure that there do charge admin fee for all transactions done in foreign currency.

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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Jan 5 2012, 09:53 PM)
Thanks for the info. One thing for sure is that Alliance MC rate is lower than Alliance Visa.
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I wonder if MBB MC is lower than MBB Visa or not? I think on your blog last time you compared before and it was nearly the same right?
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Hi all,

Wanted to ask if the Mastercard/VIsa Admin Fee is 0.5% or otherwise since some forumers here reported it's more than that?
Can anyone clarify this?
THanks.

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I was trying to search online for the terms and conditions for forex related to MBB cards. Didn't see the Malaysian one, but I found the one in Singapore, which says:
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Card Transactions in Foreign Currencies


Card Transactions in foreign currencies other than US Dollars will be converted into US Dollars before being converted into Singapore Dollars. Card Transactions in US Dollars shall be converted to Singapore Dollars on the date of conversion. All conversions are subject to such exchange rate at such time as may be determined by the respective card association(s), namely Visa International Service Association and/or MasterCard International Incorporated at its absolute discretion. The conversion rate applied is based on the Posting Date of the Card Transaction to the Card Account which may be different to the rate in effect on the date of the Card Transaction. The Bank shall charge the Cardmember the converted amount, an administrative fee of 1.5% of the said amount (or such fee as the Bank may determine from time to time), and any charge levied by the card associations. The Bank may charge, credit and debit, as may be appropriate, all sums payable to the Bank under this Agreement to the Card Account.


Interestingly for SG it is based on posting date and the fee is 1.5%.
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Exchange should be as of posting date which is when the bank remits the money to the merchant. Thus the term "posted".
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Oh, then my analysis is wrong already since I based it on transaction date.
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I wonder if MBB MC is lower than MBB Visa or not? I think on your blog last time you compared before and it was nearly the same right?
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Last I compared my MBB VIsa and MC was a year ago and the rate then was almost the same.
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QUOTE(jchong @ Jan 6 2012, 09:52 AM)
Oh, then my analysis is wrong already since I based it on transaction date.
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Still helpful because day to day rate change shouldn't affect that much IMO, posting date and transaction date difference should be roughly only 2-3 days except over the weekends or long holidays.
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We were discussing about AMEX rate at MBB 2 Thread and one thing lead to another and found out below

QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Jan 7 2012, 10:03 AM)
Do you still have the AMEX Gold credit card statement ? The one that was the hottest AMEX before the introduction of this MBB2 product. If i'm not mistaken, the information was given by someone using the pure AMEX Gold credit card. I did refer back to my mom's canceled AMEX charge card statement from year 2009 and the was no mention of this 0.5% admin charge either, just the 2.5% from AMEX.

Anyway, one thing for sure is that for all AMEX credit card bearing the Maybankard logo, the total admin fee is 3% (0.5% + 2.5%).
All the banks seem to charge more than what's stated in the back of the statement (foreign currency admin fee).
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As usual, you are right notworthy.gif

idoblu was replying to your statement on AMEX Charge Card, and behind the AMEX Gold Charge Card statement only mentioned 2.5%.

I just checked my last AMEX Gold Credit Card statement (dated August 2011), it states

"Foreign Charges coverted by AMEX apply a coversion factor of 2.5% to the converted amount plus 0.5% administration cost imposed by Maybank"

And you know what - Above statement IS ALSO stated in my Maybankard Statements. You guys all go read behind your MBB2 Cards statement and you'll see the same.

BUT, here is the shocking thing, behind my separate MBB VI Statement, it states the following:

"Foreign charges applies a conversion factor of 2.5% to the converted amount and charges that is made in a foreign currency other than US Dollars will be first converted into US Dollars before being converted into Ringgit Malaysia" WTF vmad.gif vmad.gif vmad.gif

No wonder the MBB VI earns us 5X TP overseas.

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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Jan 7 2012, 12:40 PM)
BUT, here is the shocking thing, behind my separate MBB VI, it states the following:

"Foreign charges applies a conversion factor of 2.5% to the converted amount and charges that is made in a foreign currency other than US Dollars will be first converted into US Dollars before being converted into Ringgit Malaysia" WTF  vmad.gif  vmad.gif  vmad.gif

No wonder the MBB VI earns us 5X TP overseas.
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But in practice from your blog post, the fee is only about 1.25% right when you used your MBB VI card?
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QUOTE(b00n @ Jan 6 2012, 09:44 AM)
Exchange should be as of posting date which is when the bank remits the money to the merchant. Thus the term "posted".
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Here is my table when using the exchange rate on the posting date. Again, the card is a MBB MC so I took the rate from MC's website.

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Strangely, the Mastercard website does not provide the rate on weekends so I just put "n/a".

So when using the rate on posting date, the surcharge % fluctuates. Compared to previously when I used the rate as at transaction date the surcharge % was quite consistent.
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QUOTE(jchong @ Jan 7 2012, 12:53 PM)
Here is my table when using the exchange rate on the posting date. Again, the card is a MBB MC so I took the rate from MC's website.

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Strangely, the Mastercard website does not provide the rate on weekends so I just put "n/a".

So when using the rate on posting date, the surcharge % fluctuates. Compared to previously when I used the rate as at transaction date the surcharge % was quite consistent.
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Then my statement could be wrong after looking at this fact provided.
Although its a fact that posting date is the date the bank remit the merchant. But they could have used the transaction date fx smile.gif

Thanks for the comparison!
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Ok, updated tables for my MBB MC and MBB 2 AMEX below (these are all USD to MYR):

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QUOTE(zenquix @ Nov 1 2011, 11:18 PM)
Transaction date : 26/10/11
Posted date : 28/10/11
Amount charged in foreign currency : TWD5000
Amount billed in MYR : RM528.84
Rate = 0.105768
Currencies fluctuate every day. The rate shown is effective for transactions submitted to Visa on October 28, 2011, with a bank foreign transaction fee of 1%.
1 New Taiwan Dollar = 0.105506 Malaysian Ringgit
Currencies fluctuate every day. The rate shown is effective for transactions submitted to Visa on October 26, 2011, with a bank foreign transaction fee of 1%.
1 New Taiwan Dollar = 0.105025 Malaysian Ringgit

Barring intra-day movements, Maybank may charging abt 1% now
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Actually I have detected an increase in rate on Maybank's part since Nov but only when Gen-X pointed out the fine print on the back of the MBB VI's statement did I jump into action.

I still need some MBB Visa (none VI) data to come to a conclusion of my analysis. Only rule is it must be a USD transaction.

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Mastercard Global Forex Rates - Thanks jchong!

Old Amex US Forex Website (does not work) - outsourced to Oanda?

Amex AU Forex Rates - outsourced to fx4you (not safe to be taken as internal Amex rate)

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ok my recent transaction in Singapore

07 Jan 2012
LEVI'S - NOVENA SQ SINGAPORE SG SGD 85.40 RM 212.25 Dr


using Citibank Visa credit card....

what will be the admin charge?
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QUOTE(zenquix @ Jan 10 2012, 07:04 PM)
Actually I have detected an increase in rate on Maybank's part since Nov but only when Gen-X pointed out the fine print on the back of the MBB VI's statement did I jump into action.

I still need some MBB Visa (none VI) data to come to a conclusion of my analysis. Only rule is it must be a USD transaction.

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Mastercard Global Forex Rates - Thanks jchong!

Old Amex US Forex Website (does not work) - outsourced to Oanda?

Amex AU Forex Rates - outsourced to fx4you (not safe to be taken as internal Amex rate)
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Maybankard2 VISA
Transaction date : 13 October 2011
Posted date : 14 October 2011
Amount charged in foreign currency : USD511.29
Amount billed in MYR : RM1,627.37
Final exchange rate : USD1 = RM3.1829

Maybankard2 VISA
Transaction date : 4 November 2011
Posted date : 6 November 2011
Amount charged in foreign currency : USD67.99
Amount billed in MYR : RM214.92
Final exchange rate : USD1 = RM3.1611

Maybankard2 VISA
Transaction date : 12 November 2011
Posted date : 13 November 2011
Amount charged in foreign currency : USD26.30
Amount billed in MYR : RM83.61
Final exchange rate : USD1 = RM3.1791

Maybankard2 VISA
Transaction date : 12 November 2011
Posted date : 14 November 2011
Amount charged in foreign currency : USD82.98
Amount billed in MYR : RM263.82
Final exchange rate : USD1 = RM3.1793

Maybankard2 VISA
Transaction date : 14 November 2011
Posted date : 16 November 2011
Amount charged in foreign currency : USD139.00
Amount billed in MYR : RM442.76
Final exchange rate : USD1 = RM3.1853

Maybankard2 VISA
Transaction date : 18 November 2011
Posted date : 19 November 2011
Amount charged in foreign currency : USD23.96
Amount billed in MYR : RM76.53
Final exchange rate : USD1 = RM3.1941

Maybankard2 VISA
Transaction date : 30 November 2011
Posted date : 2 December 2011
Amount charged in foreign currency : USD36.81
Amount billed in MYR : RM117.10
Final exchange rate : USD1 = RM3.1812

Maybankard2 American Express
Transaction date : 10 December 2011
Posted date : 13 December 2011
Amount charged in foreign currency : USD67.99
Amount billed in MYR : RM218.57
Final exchange rate : USD1 = RM3.2147
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I made one USD transaction in October using my MBB2 Master. Hope it helps in your tabulation.

Maybankard2 Master
Transaction date : 5 October 2011
Posted date : 5 October 2011
Amount charged in foreign currency : USD 21.05
Amount billed in MYR : RM 67.85
Final exchange rate : USD1 = RM 3.2233

Mastercard rate on 5 October 2011: RM 3.1815
Charges: 1.013%
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QUOTE(tifosi @ Jan 11 2012, 11:00 PM)
I made one USD transaction in October using my MBB2 Master. Hope it helps in your tabulation.

Maybankard2 Master
Transaction date : 5 October 2011
Posted date : 5 October 2011
Amount charged in foreign currency : USD 21.05
Amount billed in MYR : RM 67.85
Final exchange rate : USD1 = RM 3.2233

Mastercard rate on 5 October 2011:  RM 3.1815
Charges: 1.013%
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International Transactions
Transactions incurred will be converted to Ringgit Malaysia using US Dollars as the base currency on the date the item is received and/or processed at such exchange and at such time as may be determined by VISA International/MasterCard Worldwide at its absolute discretion plus administration cost which is to be imposed by the card issuing bank. The exchange may differ from the rate in effect on the date of the transaction due to market fluctuations. Such rate imposed shall be final and conclusive and the Cardmember shall bear all exchange risks, losses, commission and other bank charges which may thereby be incurred.
Rates are below:

Local Banks
- Maybank VISA/MasterCard : 0.5%
- Maybank American Express with Maybank logo on top : 0.5% + 2.5%
- American Express : 0.5% + 2.5%
- CIMB Bank : 1%
- Public Bank : 1.25%
- RHB Bank :
- AmBank :
- Hong Leong Bank VISA/MasterCard: 1%
- EON Bank : 1%
- Affin Bank :
- Alliance : 1%

Foreign Banks
- HSBC : 1.25%
- OCBC bank : 1%
- Standard Chartered : 1%
- UOB Bank : 1%
- Citibank : 1%

Exchange rate estimator :
http://corporate.visa.com/pd/consumer_serv...er_ex_rates.jsp
Mastercard Global Forex Rates
[url=http://www.oanda.com/convert/classic?user=americanexpress]
[url=https://www.fx4you.com/australia/americanexpress/converter/convert.cfm]
Please post all your foreign transactions here so we can compare the rates. Kindly include the
- transaction date
- amount charged in foreign currency
- amount billed in MYR
- final exchange rate
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hi there. for AMEX, what do you mean 0.5% + 2.5% ? total is 3%?
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QUOTE(Frostlord @ Jan 17 2012, 05:04 PM)
hi there. for AMEX, what do you mean 0.5% + 2.5% ? total is 3%?
0.5% is charged by Maybank while AMEX is charging 2.5%, so the total is 3%.

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thanks biggrin.gif

looks like i need to apply for OCBC or UOB card soon for the 1% charges
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thanks biggrin.gif

looks like i need to apply for OCBC or UOB card soon for the 1% charges
Actually, Maybank VISA or MasterCard is the best when it comes to overseas use. The admin fee is only 0.5% and we have been comparing the final rate after conversion using credit cards from various banks for quite a while and we reached to the conclusion that Maybank is the cheapest smile.gif

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Actually, Maybank VISA or MasterCard is the best when it comes to overseas use. The admin fee is only 0.5% and we have been comparing the final rate after conversion using credit cards from various banks for quite a while and we reached to the conclusion that Maybank is the cheapest   smile.gif
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true. but i am already holding 3 cards (1 AMEX, 1 Master, 1 Visa). i dont want to hold more cards and pay more GST tongue.gif

and for local use, Maybank Visa and Master CB offer is not as good as OCBC titanium

just my 2cents smile.gif

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Transaction date: 14-Jan-2012
Posted date: 16-Jan-2012
Currency: HKD->MYR
Rate: 41.5116
Card used: MBB-2-Amex (Company expenses, whether pay with Amex or Visa/Master is the same. Might as well go for 5x TP brows.gif )

Oanda rate: 40.42655

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In December when I was at SG, I did get 10% discount with OCBC CC, and I just received my OCBC statement, so here is the comparison to MBB VI's rate:

OCBC
Transaction Date: 20 December 2011
Posting Date: 21 December 2012
Face to face Transaction Amount: SGD104.10
Amount Billed by Maybank: RM266.04
Therefore conversion rate = 266.04/107.10 = 2.48403

MBB VI
Transaction Date: 20 December 2011
Posting Date: 21 December 2012
Face to face Transaction Amount: SGD99.70
Amount Billed by Maybank: RM248.46
Therefore conversion rate = 248.46/99.70 = 2.49207

OCBC
Transaction Date: 21 December 2011
Posting Date: 22 December 2012
Face to face Transaction Amount: SGD35.10
Amount Billed by Maybank: RM87.11
Therefore conversion rate = 87.11/35.10 = 2.481766

MBB VI
Transaction Date: 21 December 2011
Posting Date: 22 December 2012
Face to face Transaction Amount: SGD153.50
Amount Billed by Maybank: RM381.89
Therefore conversion rate = 381.89/153.50 = 2.487883

Both days above, MBB VI conversion rate higher than OCBC vmad.gif vmad.gif vmad.gif
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What kind of OCBC card are you referring to above?

Surprising to see Maybank's rate being higher than OCBC.

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What kind of OCBC card are you referring to above?

Surprising to see Maybank's rate being higher than OCBC.
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I wonder if its because of MC vs Visa. I recall that upon checking their corporate forex site, usually MC is lower than Visa.
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I wonder if its because of MC vs Visa. I recall that upon checking their corporate forex site, usually MC is lower than Visa.
Because the VISA Gen-X swiped in Singapore is a VISA Infinite. The VI brochure says Maybank will charge 0.5% admin fee while the credit card statement says 2.5%. Not sure which is the correct one. All is still very much KIV for the time being.

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using amex in HK....

15-Jan-2012 CATALOG HONG KONG CAUSEWAY BAY HK
HK$559.00 RM232.04

14-Jan-2012 COSMETIC WHOLESALKOWLOON HK
HK$248.20 RM103.03


rate was 41.50 , not bad i guess
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Managed to get copies of some of the T&C for Maybank cards:

Maybank 2 Cards


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13.3 Where the Cardholder uses the Credit Card outside Malaysia, the
transactions shall be charged in the official currency of the country
concerned and converted into Ringgit Malaysia at such exchange
rate and at such time as it is determined by American Express or
MasterCard / Visa International at its absolute discretion.

13.5 All foreign charges converted by American Express apply a
conversion factor of 2.5% to the converted amount. A charge that
is made in foreign currency other than U.S. Dollars will, when the
conversion is done by American Express, be converted into U.S.
Dollars before being converted in your billing currency.


No mention of the fee for the 2 cards MC or Visa. I'm assuming it is their normal 0.5%.


Maybank Visa Infinite


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13.3 Where the Cardmember uses the Credit Card outside Malaysia, the
transactions shall be charged in the official currency of the country
concerned and converted into Ringgit Malaysia at such exchange
rate and at such time as may be determined by Visa International
at its absolute discretion on the date it is processed by Visa International,
depending on the card used. In addition, the Cardmember also has to pay
the administrative costs at a rate of 1% or at other rates will be determined
by Maybank for conversion transactions made in foreign currencies.

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jchong, for MBB VI, in the Terms and Condition it is stated 1% ( I think I posted it at MBB2 Thread) BUT behind the paper statement it is stated 2.5%. So which is the correct one? I guess it should be 1% based on what have posted here.
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I certainly hope it is the 1% smile.gif

Anyway, from your past experience it seems that 1% is the correct figure.
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thanks biggrin.gif

looks like i need to apply for OCBC or UOB card soon for the 1% charges
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mbb amex 2 card
sgd 670.89->myr1679.94 (2.5040)
official 2.4172. diff of 3.6% !!!!

citibank visa
won32,120->myr92.94 (2.8935)
official 2.8370. diff 1.02%

citibank visa
gbp15.30->78.57 (5.135)
official 5.0346. diff 1.02%

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Maybank Manchester United Visa
Transaction date : 31 January 2011
Posted date : 31 January 2011
Amount charged in foreign currency : USD 7
Amount billed in MYR : RM 21.65
Final exchange rate : USD1 = RM 3.0929

Visa rate on 31 January 2011: RM 3.0550
Charges: 1.012%

I haven't gotten any 0.5% rate in recent transactions.
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QUOTE(tifosi @ Feb 8 2012, 01:34 PM)
Maybank Manchester United Visa
Transaction date : 31 January 2011
Posted date : 31 January 2011
Amount charged in foreign currency : USD 7
Amount billed in MYR : RM 21.65
Final exchange rate : USD1 = RM 3.0929

Visa rate on 31 January 2011: RM 3.0550
Charges: 1.012%

I haven't gotten any 0.5% rate in recent transactions.
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Actually your charges are 1.239%
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CIMB Enrich World Mastercard
Transaction date: 4 February 2012
Posted date: 7 February 2012
Amount charged in foreign currency: 855 Euros
Amount billed in MYR: 3,442.74

American Express Platinum Charge Card
Transaction date: 4 February 2012
Posted date: 5 February 2012:
Amount charged in foreign currency: 3,100 Euros
Amount billed in MYR: 12,674.13

Maybank Visa Infinite
Transaction date: 4 February 2012
Posted date: 6 February 2012
Amount charged in foreign currency: 8,205 Euros
Amount billed in MYR: 33,026.02
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Actually your charges are 1.239%
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Oh yeah. Sorry, I calculated wrongly.

Hmmm, the rate is kinda high.

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Oh yeah. Sorry, I calculated wrongly.

Hmmm, the rate is kinda high.
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for those expecting the analysis, my apologies for the delay. Swamped with work and personal errands lately. Hopefully will get to post it up soon.
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HSBC Visa
Transaction Date: 18 February 2012
Posted Date: 19 February 2012
Amount Charged in Foreign Currency: USD 424.80
Amount Billed in MYR: RM 1,319.58
Final Exchange Rate: 3.1064

Visa Rate on both transaction and posted date: 3.038

Charges: 2.25% blink.gif

Does anyone know why this high?
This is a paypal transaction, but I made sure that I select to use the bank's conversion.

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QUOTE(jchong @ Jan 19 2012, 08:46 PM)
Managed to get copies of some of the T&C for Maybank cards:

Maybank 2 Cards

No mention of the fee for the 2 cards MC or Visa. I'm assuming it is their normal 0.5%.
Maybank Visa Infinite

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For e.g, a transaction in EUR means it will need to convert twice from EUR to USD and then USD to MYR? If that is the case, 0.5% + 2.5% charges will be doubled?

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just want to share the findings of my long overdue analysis.

Executive Summary:
MBB Visa - 1.25% admin charge based on Visa forex rates on posting date
MBB Mastercard - 1% admin charge based on Mastercard global forex rates on transaction date
MBB Amex - Close to 2% higher than Visa and Mastercard

Detailed analysis available on my blog. Do comment and highlight errors if any.

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QUOTE(zenquix @ Mar 5 2012, 02:53 AM)
just want to share the findings of my long overdue analysis.

Executive Summary:
MBB Visa - 1.25% admin charge based on Visa forex rates on posting date
MBB Mastercard - 1% admin charge based on Mastercard global forex rates on transaction date
MBB Amex - Close to 2% higher than Visa and Mastercard

Detailed analysis available on my blog. Do comment and highlight errors if any.
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Interesting, visa is slightly higher than mastercard. thanks for the effort zenquiz!
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QUOTE(zenquix @ Mar 5 2012, 02:53 AM)
just want to share the findings of my long overdue analysis.

Executive Summary:
MBB Visa - 1.25% admin charge based on Visa forex rates on posting date
MBB Mastercard - 1% admin charge based on Mastercard global forex rates on transaction date
MBB Amex - Close to 2% higher than Visa and Mastercard

Detailed analysis available on my blog. Do comment and highlight errors if any.
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Is the VISA a MBB2 VISA, regular VISA or MBB VISA Infinite ?

By the way, i recently discovered that the exchange rate for TWD is very good. It is even lower than the local money changer and if one were to buy their TWD with USD in Taiwan, the rate provided by Maybank credit card is still unbeatable.

For example, local money changer was selling TWD100 for RM10.55 in mid-February. Banks in Taiwan (Bank of Taiwan, Sinopec, Chinatrust etc.) on the other hand, were selling TWD100 for about RM10.40 (bought using USD and i bought my USD in Malaysia at USD1=RM3.03). I bought something with my MBB2 VISA and the final exchange rate was about TWD100=RM10.36, and i get Treatpoints for that! thumbup.gif Will post some of my recent foreign transactions here later on.
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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Mar 5 2012, 03:34 PM)
Is the VISA a MBB2 VISA, regular VISA or MBB VISA Infinite ?
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Mixed. Have samples for all 3.

QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Mar 5 2012, 03:34 PM)
By the way, i recently discovered that the exchange rate for TWD is very good. It is even lower than the local money changer and if one were to buy their TWD with USD in Taiwan, the rate provided by Maybank credit card is still unbeatable.
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Reason for this is due to the fact that TWD is poorly traded in MY. So the money changers have higher margins, to make up for the lower volume.
This is documented in the Taiwan Travel thread (I did the MYR -> USD -> TWD comparison as well)
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QUOTE(zenquix @ Mar 5 2012, 05:58 PM)
Reason for this is due to the fact that TWD is poorly traded in MY. So the money changers have higher margins, to make up for the lower volume.
This is documented in the Taiwan Travel thread (I did the MYR -> USD -> TWD comparison as well)
Yes. I already read that thread, which is the reason i bought USD here in Malaysia and only bought TWD in Taiwan. However, the exchange rate is not very competitive anymore. Those bank counters in Taoyuan Airport charge TWD30 commission while banks in downtown charge TWD100 and with a not so competitive exchange rate (USD to TWD), the final exchange rate is more or less the same as the rate offered by local money changers. In that Taiwan travel thread, it is said that for each RM1000 exchanged, one can save about RM50. However, this is no longer the case now. Maybank VISA/MasterCard give an even lower exchange rate.

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QUOTE(zenquix @ Mar 5 2012, 02:53 AM)
just want to share the findings of my long overdue analysis.

Executive Summary:
MBB Visa - 1.25% admin charge based on Visa forex rates on posting date
MBB Mastercard - 1% admin charge based on Mastercard global forex rates on transaction date
MBB Amex - Close to 2% higher than Visa and Mastercard

Detailed analysis available on my blog. Do comment and highlight errors if any.
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Thanks for the effort.

Your work reconfirm what jchong reported.
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Thanks for posting. I read it already on your blog.

QUOTE(zenquix @ Mar 5 2012, 05:58 PM)
Mixed. Have samples for all 3.
Good to know that Visa is consistent across the different types of Visa card. For a moment I was concerned if VI had a worse exchange rate (in order to compensate for the 5x TP).


Added on March 6, 2012, 10:51 am
QUOTE(zenquix @ Mar 5 2012, 02:53 AM)
Executive Summary:
MBB Visa - 1.25% admin charge based on Visa forex rates on posting date
MBB Mastercard - 1% admin charge based on Mastercard global forex rates on transaction date
One comment, I notice that the forex rates quoted by Visa are generally a bit higher than MC. So the real diff between Visa and Master is a little bit higher than 0.25%.

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Maybank Visa Infinite has higher exchange rate compare to normal m2u visa?

Hmm like that i use normal Visa will do.


So Maybank mastercard is the best rate to use oversea?

QUOTE(jchong @ Mar 6 2012, 10:48 AM)
Thanks for posting. I read it already on your blog.
Good to know that Visa is consistent across the different types of Visa card. For a moment I was concerned if VI had a worse exchange rate (in order to compensate for the 5x TP).


Added on March 6, 2012, 10:51 am

One comment, I notice that the forex rates quoted by Visa are generally a bit higher than MC. So the real diff between Visa and Master is a little bit higher than 0.25%.
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Maybank 2 cards are ready to use in oversea? Or I need to call bank to activate it?
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Maybank 2 cards are ready to use in oversea? Or I need to call bank to activate it?
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No need to activate to use MBB 2 Cards. BUT many reported at MBB 2 Thread that they need to call up CS for online transactions with their AMEX card. Try and you'll know, if fail then call CS. And it is a good practice to inform CS when you are going overseas, for any credit card.
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HSBC Premier
Transaction Date: 30 March 2012
Posted Date: 02 April 2012
Amount Charged in Foreign Currency: TWD 2800
Amount Billed in MYR: RM 297.10

Transaction Date: 31 March 2012
Posted Date: 02 April 2012
Amount Charged in Foreign Currency: TWD 13200
Amount Billed in MYR: RM 1400.54

not sure what the conversion rate has been charges to me
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HSBC Premier
Transaction Date: 30 March 2012
Posted Date: 02 April 2012
Amount Charged in Foreign Currency: TWD 2800
Amount Billed in MYR: RM 297.10

Transaction Date: 31 March 2012
Posted Date: 02 April 2012
Amount Charged in Foreign Currency: TWD 13200
Amount Billed in MYR: RM 1400.54

not sure what the conversion rate has been charges to me
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About RM10.611 for every NTD100, not bad at all! Local money changers have been selling NTD100 for about RM10.60 - RM10.80 in the past 1 - 2 weeks.

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I get from local money changer RM10.75.

Regret didnt buy more ahhhhh
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Maybankard2 Master
Transaction date : 01-Apr-2012
Posted date : 03-Apr-2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : TWD12,920
Amount billed in MYR : RM1,349.09
Final exchange rate : TWD100 = RM 10.4418


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I get from local money changer RM10.75.

Regret didnt buy more ahhhhh
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I just bought NTD today. RM10.73=NTD100. Was RM10.55=NTD100 just two weeks ago sad.gif

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Maybankard2 Amex
Transaction date : 11-Apr-2012
Posted date : 13-Apr-2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : USD80
Amount billed in MYR : RM251.53
Final exchange rate : USD1=RM3.1441

Maybankard2 Amex
Transaction date : 11-Apr-2012
Posted date : 13-Apr-2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : USD6
Amount billed in MYR : RM18.86
Final exchange rate : USD1=RM3.1433

From the above seems like the exchange rate is different for the same card on the same day on same currency - USD rclxub.gif

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Maybankard2 Visa
Transaction date : 11-Apr-2012
Posted date : 13-Apr-2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : KRW48450
Amount billed in MYR : RM132.62
Final exchange rate : KRW1000=RM2.7373

SCB JustOne Titanium Master
Transaction date : 11-Apr-2012
Posted date : 13-Apr-2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : KRW12,000
Amount billed in MYR : RM32.96
Final exchange rate : KRW1000=RM2.7467

Forex rate from Al-Rajhi counter at KLIA on 08-Apr-2012 : KRW10,000 = RM33.00; worst than both the cards above

Normally Master rate is better than Visa rate, but SCB admin charges is higher than MBB. So I guess the best forex rate can be obtained through MBB Master. But for MBB, are there any difference for the rates between different MasterCard - Gold, Platinum, M2 Platinum, World?

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QUOTE(alexwsk @ Apr 14 2012, 11:02 AM)

From the above seems like the exchange rate is different for the same card on the same day on same currency - USD  rclxub.gif
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I posted in 2009 in my blog that for my AMEX card, I did 3 transactions at Universal Studios LA minutes apart (because of some discount thingy for certain amount if not mistaken) and all 3 transactions different rates.
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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Apr 14 2012, 11:36 AM)
I posted in 2009 in my blog that for my AMEX card, I did 3 transactions at Universal Studios LA minutes apart (because of some discount thingy for certain amount if not mistaken) and all 3 transactions different rates.
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i wonder if amex is using live forex by minutes sweat.gif
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Maybankard2 VISA
Transaction date : 14 April 2012
Posted date : 15 April 2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : KRW71,300
Amount billed in MYR : RM195.07
Final exchange rate : KRW1,000 = RM2.7359

Maybankard2 VISA
Transaction date : 14 April 2012
Posted date : 15 April 2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : KRW31,600
Amount billed in MYR : RM86.45
Final exchange rate : KRW1,000 = RM2.7358

Maybankard2 VISA
Transaction date : 16 April 2012
Posted date : 17 April 2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : KRW40,000
Amount billed in MYR : RM109.64
Final exchange rate : KRW1,000 = RM2.741

Maybankard2 VISA
Transaction date : 17 April 2012
Posted date : 18 April 2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : KRW13,000
Amount billed in MYR : RM35.61
Final exchange rate : KRW1,000 = RM2.7392

Maybankard2 VISA
Transaction date : 17 April 2012
Posted date : 19 April 2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : KRW9,900
Amount billed in MYR : RM27.14
Final exchange rate : KRW1,000 = RM2.7414

Maybankard2 VISA
Transaction date : 17 April 2012
Posted date : 19 April 2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : KRW11,100
Amount billed in MYR : RM30.43
Final exchange rate : KRW1,000 = RM2.7414

Maybankard2 VISA
Transaction date : 20 April 2012
Posted date : 21 April 2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : TWD324.00
Amount billed in MYR : RM34.06
Final exchange rate : TWD100 = RM10.5123
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Standard Chartered VISA
Transaction date : 23 April 2012
Posted date : 23 April 2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : USD 4.99
Amount billed in MYR : MYR15.62


Standard Chartered VISA
Transaction date : 24 April 2012
Posted date : 24 April 2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : USD 1.99
Amount billed in MYR : MYR6.23

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Maybankard 2 Visa
Transaction date : 9/5/12 - SMS alert on 8/5/12
Posted date : 10/5/12
Amount charged in foreign currency : AUS200
Amount billed in MYR : RM628.23
Rate = 3.14115

Actual rate on 10/5/12: 3.0889

Exchange rate posted in Visa Exchange Rate Tools:
3.102324 (if bank fee 0%)
3.117836 (if bank fee 0.5%)
3.133347 (if bank fee 1%)
3.148859 (if bank fee 1.5%)

I got a lousy rate?
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QUOTE(Human Nature @ May 11 2012, 11:05 AM)
Maybankard 2 Visa
Transaction date : 9/5/12 - SMS alert on 8/5/12
Posted date : 10/5/12
Amount charged in foreign currency : AUS200
Amount billed in MYR : RM628.23
Rate = 3.14115

Actual rate on 10/5/12: 3.0889

Exchange rate posted in Visa Exchange Rate Tools:
3.102324 (if bank fee 0%)
3.117836 (if bank fee 0.5%)
3.133347 (if bank fee 1%)
3.148859 (if bank fee 1.5%)

I got a lousy rate?
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That's quite a competitive rate, in my opinion as most money changers were selling AUD around that figure too yesterday.

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yeah, money changers in Melaka was selling ~3.145

add: maybank visa fee is between 1.0 to 1.5% now, not 0.5% anymore. I wonder if other banks are having the same increase too.

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i've linked Maybank Visa Petronas and MBB 2Amex card to paypal account. payment is around 200usd. which should i use? Amex with 5%rebate 5xTP?
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QUOTE(kucingfight @ May 12 2012, 02:09 AM)
i've linked Maybank Visa Petronas and MBB 2Amex card to paypal account. payment is around 200usd. which should i use? Amex with 5%rebate  5xTP?
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If you have not used up your weekend 5% rebate, then MBB2 AMEX is the card you should use. Do charge to your card after 2pm today. Any transaction done through Paypal before 2pm today will be recorded as transaction made on Friday.

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ May 12 2012, 10:12 AM)
If you have not used up your weekend 5% rebate, then MBB2 AMEX is the card you should use. Do charge to your card after 2pm today. Any transaction done through Paypal before 2pm today will be recorded as transaction made on Friday.
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thanks for your reply, so even with 2.5%+0.5% charges, benefits of Amex will offset the Visa? noob in this

*din know it should be done after 2pm, i thought weekend rebate starts from 00.01am onwards. thanks for letting me know..luckily haven pay
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QUOTE(kucingfight @ May 12 2012, 11:28 AM)
thanks for your reply, so even with 2.5%+0.5% charges, benefits of Amex will offset the Visa? noob in this
Yes. Provided you can get 5% off all your USD200 smile.gif


QUOTE(kucingfight @ May 12 2012, 11:28 AM)
*din know it should be done after 2pm, i thought weekend rebate starts from 00.01am onwards. thanks for letting me know..luckily haven pay
This is because it follows Paypal's USA HQ time. So you have to do it at 2pm or after. Just to be safe, do it after 2pm biggrin.gif

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Maybank Petronas Visa

Posting Date Transaction Date
12-May-2012 10-May-2012 PAYPAL US US$84.10 RM261.54

Visa Forex Rate @ 10- May = 1 United States Dollar = 3.071000 Malaysian Ringgit

So, bank Charges is = 1.265%


14-May-2012 13-May-2012 PAYPAL US$63.00 RM195.91
Visa Forex Rate @ 13 May = 1 United States Dollar = 3.071500 Malaysian Ringgit

So, bank Charges is = 1.243%

MBB 2 AMEX

Posting date Transaction date Description Foreign currency Local currency Actual Conversion Bank Charges
DebitCredit Debit Credit
15-May-2012 14-May-2012 PAYPAL US$70.61 RM222.54 (1 US Dollar = 3.07518 Malaysian Ringgit) 2.48%
15-May-2012 13-May-2012 PAYPAL US$51.90 RM163.58 (1 US Dollar = 3.07517 Malaysian Ringgit) 2.49%
15-May-2012 13-May-2012 PAYPAL US$91.00 RM286.81 (1 US Dollar = 3.07517 Malaysian Ringgit) 2.49%

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Maybankard VISA
Transaction date: 02 May 2012
Posting date: 02 May 2012
Amount: nzd$444
Amount being charged: RM1113.62
Rate: 2.5081

Hlb debit card MasterCard
Transaction date: 02 May 2012
Posting date: 02 May 2012
Amount: nzd$37.32
Amount being charged: RM 93.84
Rate: 2.5144

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Japan - My cash exchange:
Somewhere between 17 or 18 May
YEN: 157,000
MYR: 5,981.70
Exchange Rate: 38.10

But during my trip in Japan from 22 May - 1 June, exchange had raised to over 40. So basically I lose out by using card.
Still got YEN10,000 which based on FX increased, earned around RM20. But not planning to change, leave for next trip in the future. wink.gif

Citibank Premier Miles
Transaction date : 24 May 2012
Posted date : 26 May 2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : YEN18,500
Amount billed in MYR : RM747.88
Final exchange rate : 40.42595

Citibank Premier Miles
Transaction date : 24 May 2012
Posted date : 29 May 2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : YEN7,798
Amount billed in MYR : RM315.24
Final exchange rate : 40.424575

Citibank Premier Miles
Transaction date : 25 May 2012
Posted date : 29 May 2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : YEN3,460
Amount billed in MYR : RM139.87
Final exchange rate : 40.42485

Citibank Premier Miles
Transaction date : 26 May 2012
Posted date : 28 May 2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : YEN12,768
Amount billed in MYR : RM516.16
Final exchange rate : 40.426

Citibank Premier Miles
Transaction date : 26 May 2012
Posted date : 29 May 2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : YEN22,793
Amount billed in MYR : RM921.43
Final exchange rate : 40.426


Still puzzled on how the exchange rate was charged. Be it Transaction date or Posting date, also can't seem to reconcile. Or was it based on actual time it got (1)Transacted OR (2)Posted?!.... rclxub.gif
Seems to me more towards transactions date instead of posting. Because looks more closer.

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QUOTE(b00n @ Jun 11 2012, 01:54 PM)
Still puzzled on how the exchange rate was charged. Be it Transaction date or Posting date, also can't seem to reconcile. Or was it based on actual time it got (1)Transacted OR (2)Posted?!....  rclxub.gif
Seems to me more towards transactions date instead of posting. Because looks more closer.
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I called Citibank to confirm about this again just two weeks ago and three different CS told me it is based on posting date.

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Jun 11 2012, 05:22 PM)
I called Citibank to confirm about this again just two weeks ago and three different CS told me it is based on posting date.
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Logically it should be based on posting date. But if you look at my statement.... very weird. Should I call and ask them to explain?... hmm.gif
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Hi guys,

I need advice. I plan to get a credit card mainly for overseas online transaction. From the first post, it stated that Maybank has the lowest admin charge of 0.5%

However the previous pages showed that the charges are now around 1%.

Should I continue to get Maybank CC? Did the admin charge increase?

Thanks!
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QUOTE(deejay220989 @ Jun 13 2012, 02:19 PM)
Hi guys,

I need advice. I plan to get a credit card mainly for overseas online transaction. From the first post, it stated that Maybank has the lowest admin charge of 0.5%

However the previous pages showed that the charges are now around 1%.

Should I continue to get Maybank CC? Did the admin charge increase?

Thanks!
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Maybankard2 Mastercard
Transaction date : 08 June 2012
Posted date : 09 June 2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : £695.00
Amount billed in MYR : RM3,430.94
Final exchange rate : £1 = RM4.9366

Standard Chartered Business Visa Platinum
Transaction date : 29 May 2012
Posted date : 29 May 2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : GBP 203.00
Amount billed in MYR : RM1,028.04
Final exchange rate : EUR1 = RM5.0642

Standard Chartered Business Visa Platinum
Transaction date : 05 June 2012
Posted date : 05 June 2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : EUR 1,475.00
Amount billed in MYR : RM6,045.16
Final exchange rate : EUR1 = RM4.0984




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so im singapore,i assumed that paying my expenses with my MBB2 Visa will still be cheaper than getting my family in Msia TT the fund to me?
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QUOTE(@secret@ @ Jun 28 2012, 12:11 PM)
so im singapore,i assumed that paying my expenses with my MBB2 Visa will still be cheaper than getting my family in Msia TT the fund to me?
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Unfortunately no. Cash will still be cheaper unless you have the Maybank VISA Infinite which gives you 5xTP for all overseas expenses. After factoring in the 5xTP given for overseas transaction for Maybank VISA Infinite, the final exchange rate would be a little bit cheaper than what you can get at money changer.

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Jun 28 2012, 04:02 PM)
Unfortunately no. Cash will still be cheaper unless you have the Maybank VISA Infinite which gives you 5xTP for all overseas expenses. After factoring in the 5xTP given for overseas transaction for Maybank VISA Infinite, the final exchange rate would be a little bit cheaper than what you can get at money changer.
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SGD is really high now.. ><
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which is better to use at Bandung, MBB 2 AMEX, MBB 2 MC or OCBC MC?
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QUOTE(fahrur_07 @ Jul 2 2012, 03:44 PM)
which is better to use at Bandung, MBB 2 AMEX, MBB 2 MC or OCBC MC?
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QUOTE(ronnie @ Jul 2 2012, 03:51 PM)
Personally I would choose MBB 2 MC
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Yup, me too... smile.gif

Here with my transactions at Bali by June,

Maybankard2 Visa
Transaction date : 06 June 2012
Posted date : 08 June 2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : IDR 488,000
Amount billed in MYR : RM 167.91
Final exchange rate : RM1 = IDR2,906

Maybankard2 Visa
Transaction date : 08 June 2012
Posted date : 10 June 2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : IDR 379,000
Amount billed in MYR : RM 130.34
Final exchange rate : RM1 = IDR2,907


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a new site to compare forex (and the replacement to wawasan sentosa money changer in midvalley)

http://www.moneymaster.com.my/index.php
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QUOTE(zenquix @ Jul 5 2012, 10:54 AM)
a new site to compare forex (and the replacement to wawasan sentosa money changer in midvalley)

http://www.moneymaster.com.my/index.php
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It even have historical graph... nice website.
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Hi,

Anyone using OCBC Ti for overseas transaction recently? Wanna double check whether the conversion fee is still 1%. icon_question.gif

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Added on July 11, 2012, 11:28 amIF AT ITALY IM USING ALLIANCE BANK VISA GOLD AND BUY SOMETHING SO HOW TO COUNT THE EXCHANGE RATE?FEES AND CHANGER
THANK YOU

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Hi guys,

If I'm withdrawing my PayPal funds to my credit card, will the administration cost be applied?

How should I do the calculation?

Thanks!
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QUOTE(shuksheng @ Jul 11 2012, 10:54 AM)

Added on July 11, 2012, 11:28 amIF AT  ITALY IM USING ALLIANCE BANK VISA GOLD AND BUY SOMETHING SO HOW TO COUNT THE EXCHANGE RATE?FEES AND CHANGER
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I wouldn't suggest using Alliance Visa as the rate they charge is quite high in my experience.


Added on July 16, 2012, 5:57 pm
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Hi guys,

If I'm withdrawing my PayPal funds to my credit card, will the administration cost be applied?

How should I do the calculation?

Thanks!
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yes, but it would not be visible (not stated). You will just see a lower exchange rate. i.e. maybe wehn refering to a site like XE.com should get RM100, but once you withdraw to your credit card it will be RM96 (pure example)

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QUOTE(deejay220989 @ Jul 15 2012, 08:13 AM)
Hi guys,

If I'm withdrawing my PayPal funds to my credit card, will the administration cost be applied?

How should I do the calculation?

Thanks!
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Added on July 17, 2012, 9:21 pm
QUOTE(deejay220989 @ Jul 15 2012, 08:13 AM)
Hi guys,

If I'm withdrawing my PayPal funds to my credit card, will the administration cost be applied?

How should I do the calculation?

Thanks!
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I did 2 transactions in USD via AMEX direct and via Paypal with AMEX.
The transaction was back-to-back.
Both yield the same exchange rate of USD1 = RM3.2097
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Hi guys. I have a question to ask.

I'm trying to pay for my graduation fees to Australia. They are charging me 130AUD. However I'm not sure how much will local bank charge if I use credit card to pay for it.

I seen some replies above and they said there are 5% extra charge for weekend payments? Is this true to all credit cards?

Say if I'm using Maybank Debit MasterCard, will the charges be as follow:

130 AUD x 0.5% x 3.*** (follows the rate it gets processed) = 136.5 AUD x 3.**** = Roughly around RM436.

Is that all that I need to pay?

Or would you guys recommend me to just get a bank draft....

Thanks in advance biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(haruyap @ Aug 11 2012, 01:11 AM)
Hi guys. I have a question to ask.

I'm trying to pay for my graduation fees to Australia. They are charging me 130AUD. However I'm not sure how much will local bank charge if I use credit card to pay for it.

I seen some replies above and they said there are 5% extra charge for weekend payments? Is this true to all credit cards?

Say if I'm using Maybank Debit MasterCard, will the charges be as follow:

130 AUD x 0.5% x 3.*** (follows the rate it gets processed) = 136.5 AUD x 3.**** = Roughly around RM436.

Is that all that I need to pay?

Or would you guys recommend me to just get a bank draft....

Thanks in advance  biggrin.gif
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what credit card do you plan to use ?
Maybankard 2 AMEX gives 5% rebate on weekend (not charge extra 5%)
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Hi there. Going to hk soon. Based from all the posts here it's better to use maybank2card mc on weekdays since it has the lowest rate and mbb Amex on weekends since it has 5% cash rebates? If transaction done in oversea on Sunday still entitle for 5% cash rebate right? I worried because I booked through agoda on saturday using amex but not entitle for it!
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QUOTE(wyen @ Aug 27 2012, 01:05 AM)
Hi there. Going to hk soon. Based from all the posts here it's better to use maybank2card mc on weekdays since it has the lowest rate and mbb Amex on weekends since it has 5% cash rebates? If transaction done in oversea on Sunday still entitle for 5% cash rebate right? I worried because I booked through agoda on saturday using amex but not entitle for it!
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book through Maybank Visa or MasterCard Agoda.com Promotion and save 6% OR

book through HSBC Home and Away Privileges using Premier World MasterCard or Visa Singature and enjoy 7% and 6% discount respectively. 5% discount for HSBC Gold credit cards OR

book with Citibank PremierMiles ot Platinum and get 7% discount and other cards 5%.

As for overseas transaction, based on lowest rate, yes, use MBB Visa and MasterCard UNLESS you have Premier cards that earns you 5X to 10X points.

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So using Amex on weekends still better that using mbb mc right?
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Wawasan Sentosa (Midvalley) is back as Money Master (Midvalley)... http://www.moneymaster.com.my/index.php

Brand new website with graphs to track up/down
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Maybankard Cherry Visa
Transaction date : 24 Aug 2012
Posted date : 26 Aug 2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : TWD 867.00
Amount billed in MYR : RM 90.77
Final exchange rate : TWD100 = RM 10.47
VISA Exchange Rate on 26 Aug 2012 is TWD100 = RM10.34

PBB D2D
Transaction date : 26 Aug 2012
Posted date : 28 Aug 2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : TWD 506
Amount billed in MYR : RM 52.98
Final exchange rate : TWD100 = RM10.47
VISA Exchange Rate on 28 Aug 2012 is TWD100 = RM 10.40
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Maybankard Cherry Visa
Transaction date : 24 Aug 2012
Posted date : 26 Aug 2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : TWD 867.00
Amount billed in MYR : RM 90.77
Final exchange rate : TWD100 = RM 10.47
VISA Exchange Rate on 26 Aug 2012 is TWD100 = RM10.34

PBB D2D
Transaction date : 26 Aug 2012
Posted date : 28 Aug 2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : TWD 506
Amount billed in MYR : RM 52.98
Final exchange rate : TWD100 = RM10.47
VISA Exchange Rate on 28 Aug 2012 is TWD100 = RM 10.40
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As usual, the rate is even cheaper than TWD cash you can buy at any local money changer. Big thumbs up to MBB VISA/MC thumbup.gif

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As usual, the rate is even cheaper than TWD cash you can buy at any local money changer. Big thumbs up to MBB VISA/MC  thumbup.gif
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Is there any difference in the exchange rates if you use Maybank debit card as opposed to credit card?
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Thailand - Chiang Mai - My cash exchange:
THB: 10,000
MYR: 1,004
Exchange Rate: 0.1007

Citibank Premier Miles
Posted date : 27 Aug 2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : THB2,290
Amount billed in MYR : RM232.17
Final exchange rate : 0.1013843

Citibank Premier Miles
Posted date : 27 Aug 2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : THB8,240
Amount billed in MYR : RM835.41
Final exchange rate : 0.1013847

Exchange rate from Visa: 0.099387

Citibank Premier Miles
Posted date : 28 Aug 2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : THB3,090
Amount billed in MYR : RM315.04
Final exchange rate : 0.1019547

Exchange rate from Visa: 0.099949

Citibank Premier Miles
Posted date : 29 Aug 2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : THB2,990
Amount billed in MYR : RM304.85
Final exchange rate : 0.1019565

Exchange rate from Visa: 0.099949

Seem that I get charged 2.01% instead of 1% bank charges.
What is stated in their website is still 1%:
https://www.citibank.com.my/english/common/...erCode=MYAPSLN3
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If a transaction is made in foreign currency, MasterCard or VISA, depending on which card is used, will convert the transaction into a Ringgit Malaysia equivalent at the conversion rate as determined by MasterCard or VISA as at the date it is processed by MasterCard or VISA.
In addition, you will also pay administration costs at 1% or at such other rates as shall be determined by us for the conversion of the transactions made in foreign currencies.


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Seem that I get charged 2.01% instead of 1% bank charges.
What is stated in their website is still 1%:
https://www.citibank.com.my/english/common/...erCode=MYAPSLN3
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Bro, even if the card issuer states 1%, usually the effective rate will be close to 2% or even higher.

Click here to see a table comparing various cards exchange rate for overseas transactions posted at previously at My Credit Cards. Please note, that time Alliance Visa got no 1% fee, now Alliance Plat no more competitive - click here to see Alliance Visa higher than CIMB.

Conclusion, from my years of usage, the card that offers the lowest conversion rate for overseas are Maybank Visa or MasterCard.

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if compare MBB visa or master against Hong Leong MATTA, which one offer lowest conversion rate for overseas transaction? notworthy.gif

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MBB VISA/MC for sure smile.gif

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Sep 14 2012, 03:43 PM)
MBB VISA/MC for sure   smile.gif
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leafy, I see that my sifu MilesAndMore has answered your query smile.gif

And leafy Bro, read lah first page next time, Grand Master MilesAndMore has complied most of the necessary info in respect to overseas transactions admin fee with our credit cards including posting the links for Visa and MasterCard conversion rate.

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My Exchange rate:
TWD 100 = RM10.68


EON Platinum Mastercard
Posted date : 25 Aug 2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : TWD 289.00
Amount billed in MYR : RM 30.44
Final exchange rate : 0.105329

EON Platinum Mastercard
Posted date : 25 Aug 2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : TWD1,120.00
Amount billed in MYR : RM 117.93
Final exchange rate : 0.105295


Mastercard Exchange rate on 24/08/12: 0.103241 (No exchange rate available on 25/08/12)

EON Platinum Mastercard
Posted date : 27 Aug 2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : TWD 3,599.00
Amount billed in MYR : RM 379.24
Final exchange rate : 0.105374

EON Platinum Mastercard
Posted date : 27 Aug 2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : TWD 4,200.00
Amount billed in MYR : RM 442.59
Final exchange rate : 0.105379

EON Platinum Mastercard
Posted date : 27 Aug 2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : TWD 2,165.00
Amount billed in MYR : RM 228.12
Final exchange rate : 0.105367


Mastercard Exchange rate on 27/08/2012 = 0.103561

EON Platinum Mastercard
Posted date : 28 Aug 2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : TWD 25,920.00
Amount billed in MYR : RM 2,737.97
Final exchange rate : 0.105632


EON Platinum Mastercard
Posted date : 28 Aug 2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : TWD 6,740.00
Amount billed in MYR : RM 711.96
Final exchange rate : 0.105632


Mastercard Exchange rate on 28/08/2012 = 0.103908

EON Platinum Mastercard
Posted date : 29 Aug 2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : TWD 3,969.00
Amount billed in MYR : RM 420.67
Final exchange rate : T0.105989


EON Platinum Mastercard
Posted date : 29 Aug 2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : TWD 1,590.00
Amount billed in MYR : RM 168.53
Final exchange rate : 0.105994


Mastercard Exchange rate on 29/08/2012 = 0.103953

EON Platinum Mastercard
Posted date : 31 Aug 2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : TWD 16,620.00
Amount billed in MYR : RM 1,767.03
Final exchange rate : 0.106319

Mastercard Exchange rate on 31/08/2012 = 0.104357
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maybank VISA PLATINUM

12/9

114 GBP --- rm575.49--- rate 5.048



citibank PREMIER MILE VISA SIGNATURE
12/9

43.01 GBP ----rm 218.74 ---- rate 5.085


conclusion...

maybank rate cheaper...


hope this info useful


Added on September 20, 2012, 6:29 pm just wana know..

if i use master debit card instead of credit card

will it be cheaper?

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Hi all. Here is some info i have regarding maybank master/visa card.

Payment in USD via Paypal for Ebay Purchases.

Maybank World Mastercard

USD8000 = MYR25371.00

Maybank Visa Infinite

USD8000 = MYR24785.40

Transaction Date: 19-09-2012


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Hi all. Here is some info i have regarding maybank master/visa card.

Payment in USD via Paypal for Ebay Purchases.

Maybank World Mastercard

USD8000 = MYR25371.00

Maybank Visa Infinite

USD8000 = MYR24785.40

Transaction Date: 19-09-2012
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1st time i read visa is lower than master
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QUOTE(ckng2000 @ Sep 22 2012, 06:53 PM)
Hi all. Here is some info i have regarding maybank master/visa card.

Payment in USD via Paypal for Ebay Purchases.

Maybank World Mastercard

USD8000 = MYR25371.00

Maybank Visa Infinite

USD8000 = MYR24785.40

Transaction Date: 19-09-2012
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1st time I saw VISA rate are lower than Mastercard.... for a same bank... Usually is mastercard are lower...
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1st time i read visa is lower than master
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1st time I saw VISA rate are lower than Mastercard.... for a same bank... Usually is mastercard are lower...
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For my many oversea transaction, I somehow found that hlb charge admin fee of 1.60 - 2.3% for those oversea transaction.... While MBB rate can be cheaper even it was visa compared to my hlb MasterCard.....
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Maybankard Cherry Visa
Transaction date : 24 Aug 2012
Posted date : 26 Aug 2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : TWD 867.00
Amount billed in MYR : RM 90.77
Final exchange rate : TWD100 = RM 10.47
VISA Exchange Rate on 26 Aug 2012 is TWD100 = RM10.34

PBB D2D
Transaction date : 26 Aug 2012
Posted date : 28 Aug 2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : TWD 506
Amount billed in MYR : RM 52.98
Final exchange rate : TWD100 = RM10.47
VISA Exchange Rate on 28 Aug 2012 is TWD100 = RM 10.40
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How can you obtain the VISA Exchange Rate for that particular day?

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I made a transaction below using my MBB2 VISA.

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How can you obtain the VISA Exchange Rate for that particular day? 

Mind sharing?  notworthy.gif

I made a transaction below using my MBB2 VISA.

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Refer to 1st page, there is a link for the Exchange rate estimator
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Refer to 1st page, there is a link for the Exchange rate estimator
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Thanks for the highlighting. So I should take the posting date which is on the 1st Oct exchange rate rite?

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Thanks for the highlighting. So I should take the posting date which is on the 1st Oct exchange rate rite?
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How can you obtain the VISA Exchange Rate for that particular day? 

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I made a transaction below using my MBB2 VISA.

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The rate not bad... Just nearby the money changer rate....
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Payment in JPY via Paypal

Maybank Petronas Visa Gold

Transaction date: 30 Sep 2012
Posting Date: 02 Oct 2012
Amount charged in foreign currency: JPY 67,131
Amount billed in MYR: RM2,686.21
Final exchange rate: 0.040014
VISA Exchange Rate on 02 Oct 2012 is JPY1 = RM 0.039520
Bank charges: 1.25%

Did I calculate correct?

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Maybank Petronas Visa Gold

Transaction date: 15 Oct 2012
Posting Date: 16 Oct 2012
Amount charged in foreign currency: GBP 25.90
Amount billed in MYR: RM129.38
Final exchange rate: 4.995367
VISA Exchange Rate on 16 Oct 2012 is 1 GBP = 4.933576 MYR
Bank charges: 1.25%


Transaction date: 15 Oct 2012
Posting Date: 17 Oct 2012
Amount charged in foreign currency: GBP 19.90
Amount billed in MYR: RM99.18
Final exchange rate: 4.983920
VISA Exchange Rate on 17 Oct 2012 is 1 GBP = 4.922788 MYR
Bank charges: 1.24%


Transaction date: 15 Oct 2012
Posting Date: 17 Oct 2012
Amount charged in foreign currency: GBP 26.00
Amount billed in MYR: RM129.59
Final exchange rate: 4.984231
VISA Exchange Rate on 17 Oct 2012 is 1 GBP = 4.922788 MYR
Bank charges: 1.25%

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It seem like VISA now the charges rate is 1.25% on the exchange rate already but still it was lowest compare with other bank....
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It seem like VISA now the charges rate is 1.25% on the exchange rate already but still it was lowest compare with other bank....
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What do you mean by "still it was lowest compare with other bank"? Cos Visa doesn't issue credit cards.
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What do you mean by "still it was lowest compare with other bank"? Cos Visa doesn't issue credit cards.
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I mean MBB VISA is still the lowest compare with other bank....
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OCBC Ti Mastercard

Posted date : 31/10 2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : Euro 985.00
Amount billed in MYR : RM 3931.71
Final exchange rate : 3.991
Online my Moneymaster Rate (sell): 4.01

Posted date : 2/11 2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : Euro 520.00
Amount billed in MYR : RM 2075.61
Final exchange rate : 3.991
Online my Moneymaster Rate (sell): 4.00

Conclusion: OCBC Ti rate is better than cash exchange rate (sell).

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Buying android apps from Google Play requires payment in USD, so there will be foreign exchange fee involved, correct?
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Buying android apps from Google Play requires payment in USD, so there will be foreign exchange fee involved, correct?
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Mostly the answer is yes... I could like to ask can MBB or D2D be used in Apps Store for purchases??
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Citi Clear Card

Transaction Date: Nov 14, 2012
Amount charged in USD: 200
Amount billed in MYR: 625.32
Final exchange rate: 3.1266

Exchange rate estimator : http://corporate.visa.com/pd/consumer_serv...er_ex_rates.jsp
Enter Bank Fee : 1% (as per post#1)
Date Requested : Nov 14, 2012
Final exchange rate: 3.096660

The generated result as below
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Does anyone know the reason? Could it be the bank fee not correct? hmm.gif

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Citi Clear Card

Transaction Date: Nov 14, 2012
Amount charged in USD: 200
Amount billed in MYR: 625.32
Final exchange rate: 3.1266

Exchange rate estimator : http://corporate.visa.com/pd/consumer_serv...er_ex_rates.jsp
Enter Bank Fee : 1% (as per post#1)
Date Requested : Nov 14, 2012
Final exchange rate: 3.096660

The generated result as below
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Does anyone know the reason? Could it be the bank fee not correct? hmm.gif
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You actually save about RM0.21. Here's the calculations:

Based on Visa's exchange rate, the retail amount: USD200 x 3.096660 = RM619.332

Including the 1% bank fee: 1% of RM619.332 = RM6.19332

Total amount that should have been billed = RM619.332 + RM6.19332 = RM625.52532

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QUOTE(vincentxiang @ Nov 17 2012, 11:28 AM)
Citi Clear Card

Transaction Date: Nov 14, 2012
Amount charged in USD: 200
Amount billed in MYR: 625.32
Final exchange rate: 3.1266

Exchange rate estimator : http://corporate.visa.com/pd/consumer_serv...er_ex_rates.jsp
Enter Bank Fee : 1% (as per post#1)
Date Requested : Nov 14, 2012
Final exchange rate: 3.096660

The generated result as below
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use posting date
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The bank fee I found on citi is not 1%.... Last time i charged everything to my citi and found out the bank fee is roughly around 2%
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QUOTE(alfee29 @ Nov 17 2012, 12:01 PM)
You actually save about RM0.21. Here's the calculations:

Based on Visa's exchange rate, the retail amount: USD200 x 3.096660 = RM619.332

Including the 1% bank fee: 1% of RM619.332 = RM6.19332

Total amount that should have been billed = RM619.332 + RM6.19332 = RM625.52532

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The exchange rate 3.096660 is including the 1% bank fee. If you enter bank fee 0% to the exchange rate estimator (http://corporate.visa.com/pd/consumer_serv...er_ex_rates.jsp), the exchange rate is 3.066 which is match the rate of 3.0966 when entering bank fee 1%


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use posting date
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Maybankard Petronas Visa Platinum

Transaction Date : 15-Nov-2012
Posting Date : 17-Nov-2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : JPY980
Amount billed in MYR : RM37.63
Final exchange rate : 0.03834

Visa Exchange Rate for 17-Nov-2012 : 0.037925 (0% bank fee)
MoneyMaster Exchange Rate for 17-Nov-2012 : 0.03900

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Transaction Date : 17-Nov-2012
Posting Date : 18-Nov-2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : JPY2677
Amount billed in MYR : RM102.80
Final exchange rate : 0.03834

Visa Exchange Rate for 18-Nov-2012 : 0.037925 (0% bank fee)
MoneyMaster Exchange Rate for 18-Nov-2012 : 0.03900

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Transaction Date : 15-Nov-2012
Posting Date : 19-Nov-2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : JPY2695
Amount billed in MYR : RM103.49
Final exchange rate : 0.03834

Visa Exchange Rate for 19-Nov-2012 : 0.037925 (0% bank fee)
MoneyMaster Exchange Rate for 19-Nov-2012 : 0.03890

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Transaction Date : 18-Nov-2012
Posting Date : 20-Nov-2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : JPY6247
Amount billed in MYR : RM239.37
Final exchange rate : 0.03832

Visa Exchange Rate for 20-Nov-2012 : 0.037844 (0% bank fee)
MoneyMaster Exchange Rate for 20-Nov-2012 : 0.03865

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Transaction Date : 18-Nov-2012
Posting Date : 21-Nov-2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : JPY2980
Amount billed in MYR : RM113.73
Final exchange rate : 0.03816

Visa Exchange Rate for 21-Nov-2012 : 0.037691 (0% bank fee)
MoneyMaster Exchange Rate for 21-Nov-2012 : 0.0385

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erm
other than maybank, which card/bank is giving reasonable rate for the oversea trans?
ocbc? hsbc? citi? scb?
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ocbc? hsbc? citi? scb?
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Citibank VISA
Transaction date : 4 October 2012
Posted date : 5 October 2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : GMP59.77
Amount billed in MYR : RM302.33
Final exchange rate : GBP1= RM5.0582

Maybankard2 VISA
Transaction date : 23 October 2012
Posted date : 25 October 2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : KRW73,510
Amount billed in MYR : RM206.94
Final exchange rate : KRW1,000= RM2.8151

Maybankard2 VISA
Transaction date : 24 October 2012
Posted date : 30 October 2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : TWD1,096
Amount billed in MYR : RM116.04
Final exchange rate : TWD100 = RM10.5876

Maybankard2 VISA
Transaction date : 27 October 2012
Posted date : 30 October 2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : PHP1,312.16
Amount billed in MYR : RM98.59
Final exchange rate : PHP100 = RM7.5136

Maybankard2 VISA
Transaction date : 27 October 2012
Posted date : 30 October 2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : PHP1,249
Amount billed in MYR : RM93.84
Final exchange rate : PHP100 = RM7.5132

Citibank Cash Back VISA
Transaction date : 27 October 2012
Posted date : 30 October 2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : PHP7,214.47
Amount billed in MYR : RM546.09
Final exchange rate : PHP100 = RM7.5694

Maybankard2 VISA
Transaction date : 1 November 2012
Posted date : 2 November 2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : GBP38.33
Amount billed in MYR : RM191.96
Final exchange rate : GBP1 = RM5.0081

Maybankard2 VISA
Transaction date : 4 November 2012
Posted date : 6 November 2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : PHP949
Amount billed in MYR : RM71.49
Final exchange rate : PHP100 = RM7.5332

Maybankard2 VISA
Transaction date : 4 November 2012
Posted date : 6 November 2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : PHP1,328.32
Amount billed in MYR : RM100.06
Final exchange rate : PHP100 = RM7.5328

Maybankard2 VISA
Transaction date : 9 November 2012
Posted date : 12 November 2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : TWD2,687
Amount billed in MYR : RM286.77
Final exchange rate : TWD100 = RM10.6725

Maybankard2 VISA
Transaction date : 12 November 2012
Posted date : 15 November 2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : PHP7,766
Amount billed in MYR : RM586.20
Final exchange rate : PHP100 = RM7.5483

Maybankard2 VISA
Transaction date : 20 November 2012
Posted date : 22 November 2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : JPY24,284
Amount billed in MYR : RM924.12
Final exchange rate : JPY1,000 = RM38.0547

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I used both Maybankard VISA and Citibank Cash Back VISA on 27 Oct 2012 (both banks posted the transaction into my account on 30 Oct 2012 which is on the same day too) to pay for two different plane tickets online and as expected, Maybankard VISA's final exchange rate is slightly cheaper.

Maybankard VISA is no doubt the best when it comes to charging your expenses in Korean Won or New Taiwan Dollar as the final exchange rate for both of these two currencies are even cheaper than buying cash from local money changer thumbup.gif

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Not sure. I think someone reported a few pages back that he found Maybankard VISA to be cheaper (which is news to everyone here)..

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Nov 26 2012, 01:44 AM)
Not sure. I think someone reported a few pages back that he found Maybankard VISA to be cheaper (which is news to everyone here)..
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is Maybank visa best for overseas transactions?
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OCBC titanium is not cheaper even with 1% rebate on all other transactions?
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Maybankard2 AMEX
Transaction date : 24 November 2012
Posted date : 27 November 2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : USD73.97
Amount billed in MYR : RM232.33
Final exchange rate : USD1 = RM3.1409


Maybankard2 VISA
Transaction date : 25 November 2012
Posted date : 27 November 2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : KRW234,390
Amount billed in MYR : RM669.51
Final exchange rate : KRW1,000 = RM2.8564

Korean Won is getting more expensive cry.gif Just a few months ago, it was KRW1,000 = RM2.7300.
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This is a silly question, but why does Maybank not publish the 0.5% charge for its Maybankard2 Mastercard? In the credit card agreement the 2.5% charge for Amex is clearly stated, but I didn't see any 0.5%, yet obviously the rates are higher (0.5% possibly) than Visa/Mastercard's conversion rate.
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Maybankard2 Visa

Transaction Date: Dec 1, 2012
Amount charged in NZD: 143
Amount billed in MYR: 362.68
Final exchange rate: 2.536 (It's even better than money changer in midvalley! rclxms.gif )

Transaction Date: Nov 27, 2012
Amount charged in SGD: 453
Amount billed in MYR: 1147.39
Final exchange rate: 2.533


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Transaction date: 25 Nov 2012
Amount charged in SGD: 100
Amount billed in RM: 255.61
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Slightly higher than money changer which I changed 2.51 in MV..
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Maybankard 2 Amex

Transaction date: 17 Sept 2012
Amount charged in USD: 497.56
Amount billed in RM: 1555.77
Exchange rate found at AMEX website on posting date: 3.05470
Final rate that been charged: 3.12679877804

Been charged 2.5% for the transaction
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CIMB Petronas Mastercard:

Transaction Date: Dec 10, 2012, approx. 12.35AM
Amount charged in GBP: 37.37
Amount billed in MYR: 191.48

Before confirming my purchase at kitbag.com, I used XE.com to convert.
This was the result:
37.37 GBP = 183.100 MYR
British Pound ↔ Malaysian Ringgit
1 GBP = 4.89965 MYR 1 MYR = 0.204096 GBP
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sorry Bros for not following format, but here are my charges with MBB VI and UOB VI minutes apart on 7th December 2012:

Maybank Visa Infinite AUD996 = RM3,223.02 which equates to 3.23596385 exchange rate

versus

UOB Visa Infinite AUD195 = RM637.86 which equates to 3.2710769 exchange rate.

From above, it can be concluded that UOB Visa Infinite overseas exchange rate is 1.085% higher than Maybank Visa Infinite.

Click here to read my article Maybank Visa Infintie vs UOB Visa Infinite

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Maybankard 2 AMEX
Transaction Date : 8 Dec 2012 (4pm)
Posted Date : 11 Dec 2012
Amount charged : USD7.98 via PayPal
Converted Amount : RM24.97
Final exchange rate : 3.1291

Does PayPal via AMEx attract similar 2.5% Admin Fee ?

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Maybank Debit Card Visa
Transaction Date : 10 Dec 2012
Posted Date : 12 Dec 2012
Amount charged : TWD 4500.00
Converted Amount : RM 480.08
Final exchange rate: 10.668

Maybank Debit Card Visa
Transaction Date : 10 Dec 2012
Posted Date : 12 Dec 2012
Amount charged : TWD 1769
Converted Amount : RM 188.73
Final Exchange rate: 10.669

VISA EXCHANGE RATE at 12/12/2012: 10.5453
Money Master Changer: 10.99

It charged roughly around 1-1.2%
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QUOTE(yiyibrowers @ Dec 12 2012, 03:35 PM)
Maybank Debit Card Visa
Transaction Date : 10 Dec 2012
Posted Date : 12 Dec 2012
Amount charged : TWD 4500.00
Converted Amount : RM 480.08
Final exchange rate: 10.668

Maybank Debit Card Visa
Transaction Date : 10 Dec 2012
Posted Date : 12 Dec 2012
Amount charged : TWD 1769
Converted Amount : RM 188.73
Final Exchange rate: 10.669

VISA EXCHANGE RATE at 12/12/2012: 10.5453
Money Master Changer: 10.99

It charged roughly around 1-1.2%
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Is that debit card and credit card with the same charges rate ?  hmm.gif
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Maybank Petronas Visa

Transaction Date : 12-Dec-2012
Posting Date : 12-Dec-2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : US$5.70
Amount billed in MYR : RM17.68
Final exchange rate : USD 1 = RM 3.10175

Visa Exchange Rate for 12-Dec-2012: 1 United States Dollar = 3.063000 Malaysian Ringgit
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Maybank Cherry Debit Card Visa

Transaction Date : 15-Dec-2012
Posting Date : 18-Dec-2012
Amount charged in foreign currency : TWD 120
Amount billed in MYR : RM 12.81

Final exchange rate : TWD 100 = RM 10.675
MoneyMaster Rate: TWD 100 = RM 10.99
Visa Exchange Rate for 12-Dec-2012: TWD 100 = RM 10.5332
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Transaction Date : 17 Dec 2012
Posted Date : 17 Dec 2012
Amount charged : USD24.59
Converted Amount : RM76.68
Final exchange rate : 3.11834

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Sorry if this is the wrong place. I need to pay something in GBP. Need to know which is the best conversion rate + fee among the cards I have.

MBB2 Amex or MC?

MC has 0.5% bank charge, while Amex is 0.5%+2.5% (3%). Which is quite alot.

But, if take into account Amex 5xTP & 5% cashback wouldn't Amex be a better choice than MC? 7.5% - 3%, I still earn 4.5% cashback.

Please correct me if I am wrong. Thanks

P/S: I have other cards as well, OCBC Ti MC, HLB Mach Visa, Ambank Visa, & Cimb Debit MC

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Hi guys,

Anyone knows how to calculate Maybank AMEX charges?

These are my details:
Transaction Date: 29-Dec-2012
Posting Date: 30-Dec-2012
Foreign Currency: JPY 5,000
Local Currency: RM 183.54

I know that any overseas transaction using AMEX will be converted to USD first, then convert to MYR, but which conversion rate date should I choose? 29 Dec or 28 Dec (following US time)?

Btw, I made the transaction on 29 Dec morning, so at that time US is still in 28 Dec..

Is it:
1. (amount) + 3.0% OR
2. ((amount) + 2.5%) + 0.5%

Please advise. Thanks!
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Your rate is like 36.708 against Japanese Yen....
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Your rate is like 36.708 against Japanese Yen....
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I see..so you guys just calculate like that laugh.gif

I did the same amount of transaction using M2U MasterCard..but the transaction not available at my online statement yet -.-

When I get it I will compare both of them smile.gif

Thanks!
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Maybank Amex Platinum:

Transaction Date: 29-Dec-2012
Posting Date: 31-Dec-2012
Foreign Currency: AUD 586
Local Currency: RM 1899.99
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Maybank Amex Platinum:

Transaction Date: 29-Dec-2012
Posting Date: 31-Dec-2012
Foreign Currency: THB 3432
Local Currency: RM 352.06
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Got latest update from Maybank..

MAYBANK 2 MASTERCARD
Transaction Date: 29-Dec-2012
Posting Date: 31-Dec-2012
Foreign Currency: JPY 5000
Local Currency: RM 179.76
Rate: JPY 1000 = RM 35.95

MAYBANK 2 AMEX *5% cashback received*
Transaction Date: 29-Dec-2012
Posting Date: 31-Dec-2012
Foreign Currency: JPY 5000
Local Currency: RM 183.54 (if include cashback, RM 174.36)
Rate: JPY 1000 = RM 36.71 (if include cashback, RM 34.87) rclxm9.gif


MAYBANK 2 MASTERCARD
Transaction Date: 29-Dec-2012
Posting Date: 31-Dec-2012
Foreign Currency: JPY 5939
Local Currency: RM 213.54
Rate: JPY 1000 = RM 35.96

MAYBANK 2 AMEX
Transaction Date: 29-Dec-2012
Posting Date: 01-Jan-2013
Foreign Currency: JPY 5939
Local Currency: RM 218.03
Rate: JPY 1000 = RM 36.71
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Payment in JPY via Paypal

Maybank Petronas Visa Gold

Transaction date: 08 Jan 2013
Posting Date: 10 Jan 2013
Amount charged in foreign currency: JPY 50,441
Amount billed in MYR: RM1,786.39
Final exchange rate: 0.035415
VISA Exchange Rate on 10 Jan 2013 is JPY1 = RM 0.034977
Bank charges: 1.25%
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When booking a room online, through Agoda.com for example, which is better (for least exchange rate) - the amount in MYR or local currency? Thank you
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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Jan 16 2013, 08:23 PM)
When booking a room online, through Agoda.com for example, which is better (for least exchange rate) - the amount in MYR or local currency? Thank you
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Always choose to pay in the local currency or USD. Your Maybank VISA or MasterCard will give you a better final exchange rate.
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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Jan 20 2013, 02:30 PM)
Always choose to pay in the local currency or USD. Your Maybank VISA or MasterCard will give you a better final exchange rate.
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not in my case. agoda exchange rate in MYR is better than pay in USD when I booked last December. Agoda 3.01 where MBB Visa 3.06

but this only apply for agoda not sure with others. perhaps better to check the live exchange rate and compare with what Agoda offer will be a good practice
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QUOTE(cenkudu @ Jan 20 2013, 06:53 PM)
not in my case. agoda exchange rate in MYR is better than pay in USD when I booked last December. Agoda 3.01 where MBB Visa 3.06

but this only apply for agoda not sure with others. perhaps better to check the live exchange rate and compare with what Agoda offer will be a good practice
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Last time I booked throught Agoda was in May last year and back then, the rare shown in MYR was more expensive than the market rate. And there was also a time that we were not allowed to choose the billing currency. All Malaysian credit cards will be automatically be billed in MYR even thought the rate you see on the checkout page is USD.
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The administration fee charged for all transaction made in foreign currency to Maybank VISA or MasterCard is now 1% instead of 0.5%.
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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Jan 26 2013, 12:43 PM)
The administration fee charged for all transaction made in foreign currency to Maybank VISA or MasterCard is now 1% instead of 0.5%.
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This is a terrible news. From your findings, or it is stated somewhere?
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This is a terrible news. From your findings, or it is stated somewhere?
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It's stated so at the back of our credit card statement.

I noticed the final exchange rate for some foreign currencies appear higher than usual. So i had a look at my bank statement and found about this admin fee increase sad.gif

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Jan 26 2013, 12:43 PM)
The administration fee charged for all transaction made in foreign currency to Maybank VISA or MasterCard is now 1% instead of 0.5%.
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Ooooh... that makes Maybankard Visa/MasterCard not good for forex transactions... on the hand, most CC also at 1%
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QUOTE(ronnie @ Jan 27 2013, 12:47 AM)
Ooooh... that makes Maybankard Visa/MasterCard not good for forex transactions... on the hand, most CC also at 1%
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Now I not sure actually MBB Mastercard is better or VISA is better in term of foreign exchange rate.... But I somehow feel still MBB better in term of the exchange rate compared to other bank even they stated is 1% but it always exceed that charges fee.....
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Hi all, would like to ask:
which CC giving better rate in term of buying app from google play store?
I own Maybank Platinum Visa, Master and gold Amex, and Citi cashback platinum?

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Maybank Petronas Visa

Transaction Date : 26-Jan-2013
Posting Date : 28-Jan-2013
Amount charged in foreign currency : US$14.99
Amount billed in MYR : RM46.28
Final exchange rate : USD 1 = RM 3.087

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January 26, 2013, with a bank foreign transaction fee of 0%  : 1 United States Dollar = 3.049600 Malaysian Ringgit
January 26, 2013, with a bank foreign transaction fee of 0.5%: 1 United States Dollar = 3.064848 Malaysian Ringgit
January 26, 2013, with a bank foreign transaction fee of 1%  : 1 United States Dollar = 3.080096 Malaysian Ringgit


looks like Maybank charge 1% now for Visa

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I just booked a room through Agoda just now. All this while i kept asking everyone to choose USD as the billing currency but this time i wanted to try to be billed in MYR with the exchange rate determined by Agoda system. But it was a BIG mistake!

I did check the rate both in USD and MYR. The rate shown in USD is **USD123.43/night while in MYR, it is **RM376. The Agoda USD/MYR exchange rate is **USD1=RM3.0463 which is a very good rate considering the money changer in Mid-Valley (MV Forex) is selling USD1=RM3.045 as of yesterday. I have a credit card that gives me 7% off and i also redeemed 25000 Agoda Rewards Points (equivalent to USD50).

Anyway, the hotel tax rate is 7%. 3x nights = USD370.29. So USD370.29 + USD25.9203 (7% tax) = USD396.2103. But after factoring in the 25000 points i redeemed (worth USD50) and the 7% discount on base room rate from my credit card, the final payable amount in USD is USD320.29 only!

As i viewed the hotel room from the first page to the final confirmation page in MYR only, i was automatically billed in MYR and the amount billed to my card is RM1004.25. This means Agoda's USD/MYR
is USD1=RM3.1354!!! This is actually very very high! I have no idea how come the final exchange rate suddenly became so high because the initial exchange rate shown is actually very good (**refer to 2nd paragraph).

Anyway, the bottom line is, whenever you are booking a room through Agoda, always choose to view the room rate in USD and make sure you choose USD as the billing currency at the final checkout page.

This post has been edited by MilesAndMore: Jan 30 2013, 12:11 AM
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I remember asking whether should I pay in MYR or local currency and you replied in USD. Unfortunately, I already made the bookings in MYR that time. Now dont wanna go back to calculate and feel the pain laugh.gif

(Gen-X, in his blog about Agoda, mentioned that he selected MYR so that dont have to worry about conversion rate tongue.gif)


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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Jan 30 2013, 12:36 AM)
I remember asking whether should I pay in MYR or local currency and you replied in USD. Unfortunately, I already made the bookings in MYR that time. Now dont wanna go back to calculate and feel the pain laugh.gif
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Yeah. I have always insisted on selecting USD as the billing currency when booking a room on Agoda but cenduku said that Agoda's rate is better when he booked a room last month. Since i had to book a room and Agoda offered the lowest room rate for that hotel i wanted to book, i thought i'll give it a try as well. At first, it seems that cenduku was right. The Agoda's MYR rate does seem better (refer to my 2nd paragraph of my last reply). However, the exchange rate ballooned from USD1=RM3.0463 (this was the difference of USD/MYR when selecting the hotel) to USD1=RM3.1354 at the final checkout page. However, as i was viewing the price in MYR all the way, i did not notice this until i received the hotel voucher from Agoda vmad.gif

Speaking of bro Gen-X, he's been MIA for almost a month...
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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Jan 30 2013, 09:49 AM)
Yeah. I have always insisted on selecting USD as the billing currency when booking a room on Agoda but cenduku said that Agoda's rate is better when he booked a room last month. Since i had to book a room and Agoda offered the lowest room rate for that hotel i wanted to book, i thought i'll give it a try as well. At first, it seems that cenduku was right. The Agoda's MYR rate does seem better (refer to my 2nd paragraph of my last reply). However, the exchange rate ballooned from USD1=RM3.0463 (this was the difference of USD/MYR when selecting the hotel) to USD1=RM3.1354 at the final checkout page. However, as i was viewing the price in MYR all the way, i did not notice this until i received the hotel voucher from Agoda    vmad.gif

Speaking of bro Gen-X, he's been MIA for almost a month...
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thanks miles for your try although it came out to be some cheating by Agoda. last time, i booked through Agoda and choose USD because of advice that was given so far. I note that the MYR exchange rate was lower but I assume the exchange rate using USD will be better. but it turn out otherwise. Now I understand this is just a gimmick by them...perhaps exchange rate before +/- forex fees.
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Best is to try in both currencies like what Miles did and make a comparison.

With the changes to Maybank Visa/MC rate, I wonder if it is still lower than the rest. I will still stick with Maybank Visa for the moment.

(Bro Gen-X is probably away somewhere, on an exotic place with no internet connection )
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Contributing some data here....

Transaction Date : 31-Jan-2013
Posting Date : 1-Feb-2013
Amount charged in foreign currency : US$249.03
Amount billed in MYR : RM793.70
Final exchange rate : USD 1 = RM 3.187

Looks like I got a bad deal... 3% charge by bank? (Maybank AMEX)

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Contributing some data here....

Transaction Date : 31-Jan-2013
Posting Date : 1-Feb-2013
Amount charged in foreign currency : US$249.03
Amount billed in MYR : RM793.70
Final exchange rate : USD 1 = RM 3.187

Looks like I got a bad deal... 3% charge by bank? (Maybank AMEX)

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doh.gif lesson learned... not gonna use AMEX for any non RM transactions.. or even overseas....

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Feb 4 2013, 11:36 PM)
Because it's an AMEX. Do refer to the 1st page for more information  smile.gif
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AEON's Overseas Transaction Fee is now only 1% (previously 1.5%)... anybody used this card for overseas transactions ?
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QUOTE(poolcarpet @ Feb 5 2013, 12:40 AM)
doh.gif lesson learned... not gonna use AMEX for any non RM transactions.. or even overseas....

"- Maybank VISA/MasterCard : 1%
- Maybank American Express with Maybank logo on top : 2.5%"
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Maybank Petronas Visa

Transaction Date : 07-Feb-2013
Posting Date : 09-Feb-2013
Amount charged in foreign currency : IDR 820,000
Amount billed in MYR : RM 265.72
Final exchange rate : IDR 1 = RM 3.24

Visa Exchange Rate for February 7, 2013: 1 Indonesian Rupiah = 0.000322 Malaysian Ringgit
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QUOTE(yiyibrowers @ Feb 6 2013, 07:19 PM)
Dont use AMEX when you were at oversea or for any foreign currency transaction... I learned my lesson for the air ticket been booked using AMEX but luckily the airline refund me back the amount..
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Actually, it is totally fine to book an airline ticket with AMEX with the price displayed in MYR such as Singapore Airlines, Cathay Pacific etc. even when you are actually booking from overseas but through their local Malaysia website. Not sure what actually happened with your EVA Air booking last time but usually it's not a problem. I've paid for my Singapore Airlines and Cathay Pacific air tickets using AMEX through their respective local Malaysia website many times already and i was charged the exact amount quoted to me in MYR at time of booking.

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Feb 13 2013, 12:06 AM)
Actually, it is totally fine to book an airline ticket with AMEX with the price displayed in MYR such as Singapore Airlines, Cathay Pacific etc. even when you are actually booking from overseas but through their local Malaysia website. Not sure what actually happened with your EVA Air booking last time but usually it's not a problem. I've paid for my Singapore Airlines and Cathay Pacific air tickets using AMEX through their respective local Malaysia website many times already and i was charged the exact amount quoted to me in MYR at time of booking.
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I also didn't know what happened to my last EVA Air booking... But luckily they still refund me back the difference charges and some more very fast and efficient...
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Will be booking a hotel using HKD.

Maybank2 Master or Citibank Visa?
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QUOTE(bearbear @ Feb 21 2013, 09:23 AM)
Will be booking a hotel using HKD.

Maybank2 Master or Citibank Visa?
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Agoda same hotel same period

USD 323 VS RM1031
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I made a call to MBB Amex to notify that I will be using my MBB cards overseas and before ending the call, the SC further advice on the 2.5% charge for Amex and 1% charge for Visa. Very pleasant service smile.gif
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post Mar 2 2013, 11:41 PM

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Dear Expert,

May I know how MBB charge the credit card oversea?
For example, Thai Baht.
If I use credit card to buy something with Thai Bath 500, how much will be in Ringgit Malaysia?
How is the calculation?

Please!! Urgent!! I in Thailand now. Short of money. Please
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1% charge on top of exchange rate for visa/master. 2.5% for amex
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QUOTE(anttan @ Mar 2 2013, 11:41 PM)
Dear Expert,

May I know how MBB charge the credit card oversea?
For example, Thai Baht.
If I use credit card to buy something with Thai Bath 500, how much will be in Ringgit Malaysia?
How is the calculation?

Please!! Urgent!! I in Thailand now. Short of money. Please
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If it is that urgent and you are not being "pressed" to use your credit card, does it matter ? I take it this is your first time using your credit card overseas.
The bank will charge a reasonable exchange rate and not to suddenly charge you like a loan shark. If they do, you'll hear complaints long time back.
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Maybankard Petronas Visa

Transaction Date : 26-Feb-2013
Posting Date : 27-Feb-2013
Amount charged in foreign currency : £ 19.95
Amount billed in MYR : RM 95.37
Final exchange rate : £ 1 = RM 4.78



Maybankard World MasterCard

Transaction Date : 26-Feb-2013
Posting Date : 27-Feb-2013
Amount charged in foreign currency : £ 17
Amount billed in MYR : RM 80.41
Final exchange rate : £ 1 = RM 4.73



It looks like mastercard giving better exchange rate than visa
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QUOTE(francistcc @ Mar 2 2013, 11:46 PM)
1% charge on top of exchange rate for visa/master. 2.5% for amex
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QUOTE(hye @ Mar 3 2013, 01:00 AM)
If it is that urgent and you are not being "pressed" to use your credit card, does it matter ? I take it this is your first time using your credit card overseas.
The bank will charge a reasonable exchange rate and not to suddenly charge you like a loan shark. If they do, you'll hear complaints long time back.
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So is how?
Please give me an example.
I am so scare.
Please someone.
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QUOTE(anttan @ Mar 3 2013, 05:51 PM)
So is how?
Please give me an example.
I am so scare.
Please someone.
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you will only be charges same as cash you change in money changer with 1% bank commission for visa.. see example below:

Transaction Date : 03-Mar-2013
Posting Date : 03-Mar-2013
Amount charged in foreign currency : THB 100
Amount billed in MYR : RM 10.52
Final exchange rate : 1 Thai Baht = 0.105211 Malaysian Ringgit

so, you need to pay RM10.52 if you swipe THB100 using your maybank creditcard.. no additional charge from bank..

you can try to check daily exchange rate for visa here, just put 1% for bank fee, and you can get the exchange rate for your visa card:
http://corporate.visa.com/pd/consumer_serv...er_ex_rates.jsp
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QUOTE(namh @ Mar 3 2013, 02:20 PM)
Maybankard Petronas Visa

Transaction Date : 26-Feb-2013
Posting Date : 27-Feb-2013
Amount charged in foreign currency : £ 19.95
Amount billed in MYR : RM 95.37
Final exchange rate : £ 1 = RM 4.78
Maybankard World MasterCard

Transaction Date : 26-Feb-2013
Posting Date : 27-Feb-2013
Amount charged in foreign currency : £ 17
Amount billed in MYR : RM 80.41
Final exchange rate : £ 1 = RM 4.73
It looks like mastercard giving better exchange rate than visa
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I agree, I have similar experience with cheaper rate with Master Card.
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10-Mar-201307-Mar-2013KLM AIRLINE AMSTELVEEN NL EU400.00 RM1,650.94

rate 4.127...

emmm.. seem not cheap edi 4 maybank
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QUOTE(SANGKANCIL2000 @ Mar 11 2013, 04:47 PM)
maybank 2card - visa

10-Mar-201307-Mar-2013KLM AIRLINE AMSTELVEEN NL EU400.00  RM1,650.94

rate 4.127...

emmm.. seem not cheap edi 4 maybank
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Currencies fluctuate every day. The rate shown is effective for transactions submitted to Visa on March 10, 2013, with a bank foreign transaction fee of 1%.

1 Euro = 4.117041 Malaysian Ringgit

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I plan to buy AirAsia flight tickets from Hatyai to Bangkok tonight. The default currency stated in the website is in Thai Baht. Should I change the currency to MYR first before making payment to get a better rate? Or just stick to the original Thai Baht. Need some advice here.
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I plan to buy AirAsia flight tickets from Hatyai to Bangkok tonight. The default currency stated in the website is in Thai Baht. Should I change the currency to MYR first before making payment to get a better rate? Or just stick to the original Thai Baht. Need some advice here.
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QUOTE(yuanxiang @ Mar 13 2013, 10:31 AM)
I plan to buy AirAsia flight tickets from Hatyai to Bangkok tonight. The default currency stated in the website is in Thai Baht. Should I change the currency to MYR first before making payment to get a better rate? Or just stick to the original Thai Baht. Need some advice here.
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How much is the air fare in THB ? And how much is it in MYR ? There are a few times that i noticed Air Asia's exchange rate is cheaper.



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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Mar 13 2013, 03:25 PM)
How much is the air fare in THB ? And how much is it in MYR ? There are a few times that i noticed Air Asia's exchange rate is cheaper.
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I just checked AirAsia website. The currency will be charged according to the city of origin. So means cannot choose the currency lo.
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QUOTE(yuanxiang @ Mar 13 2013, 03:40 PM)
I just checked AirAsia website. The currency will be charged according to the city of origin. So means cannot choose the currency lo.
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Ah ? I helped my dad to book a one-way ticket from MNL back to Malaysia in December last year and Air Asia did give the option to pay either in Filipino Peso or Malaysian Ringgit. I chose Malaysian Ringgit and paid via CIMBClicks direct debit.
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I just checked again and nothing has changed since my last booking with Air Asia three months ago. It is still possible to choose to pay in MYR even though if your flight is originating from a non-MY airport to a MY airport.

Anyway, it is possible that you are not able to choose MYR as the billing currency because your flight is a Thai domestic flight.
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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Mar 13 2013, 05:29 PM)
I just checked again and nothing has changed since my last booking with Air Asia three months ago. It is still possible to choose to pay in MYR even though if your flight is originating from a non-MY airport to a MY airport.

Anyway, it is possible that you are not able to choose MYR as the billing currency because your flight is a Thai domestic flight.
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Just wonder your statement in CIMB account showed the amount in Peso or MYR or both? The amount in ur statement is exactly the same as ur payment amount?
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QUOTE(yuanxiang @ Mar 13 2013, 09:09 PM)
Just wonder your statement in CIMB account showed the amount in Peso or MYR or both? The amount in ur statement is exactly the same as ur payment amount?
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It's only shown in MYR. And yes. It is the exact amount, no more no less. And i tried to do a dummy booking for a one-way ticket from Bangkok to Kuala Lumpur just now. I was able to choose to pay in MYR and there is also option to pay via direct debit (Maybank, CIMB, Public Bank and so on).

By the way, i tried to do a dummy booking from Hatyai to Bangkok just now and i can see the option to pay in MYR, and it is also possible to pay via direct debit through local Malaysian banks.

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Transaction Date : 11-Mar-2013
Posting Date : 12-Mar-2013
Amount charged in foreign currency : USD 322.55
Amount billed in MYR : RM 1012.04
Final exchange rate : USD 1 = RM 3.138
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Transaction Date : 14-Mar-2013
Posting Date : 15-Mar-2013
Amount charged in foreign currency : KRW 110,400.00
Amount billed in MYR : RM 316.85
Final exchange rate : KRW 1000 = RM 2.87


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Transaction Date : 16-Mar-2013
Posting Date : 18-Mar-2013
Amount charged in foreign currency : £ 44
Amount billed in MYR : RM 208.66
Final exchange rate : £ 1 = RM 4.742
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Transaction Date : 27-Mar-2013
Posting Date : 28-Mar-2013
Amount charged in foreign currency : HKD 520
Amount billed in MYR : RM 209.32
Final exchange rate : HKD 100 = RM 40.26
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UOB Platinum Visa
Transaction Date : 2 April 2013
Posted Date : 4 April 2013
Amount charged : GBP 33.55
Converted Amount : RM 161.65
Final Exchange rate: 4.81818

I was always told by the customer service that they only charge 1% from the middle rate of Visa and it clearly shows that it charging a 2.7% charge to me now.

Based on the Visa rate of 4 April 2013 with a 1% transaction fee, the rate today was suppose to be only 4.741033... Called the UOB customer service, and they say they can't do aynthing now... Seriously it shows that they are really not sure about their work, I remember reading somewhere in the credit card T&C only charging 1% fee, does this mean a 1% from Visa + 1% from UOB??


Edit: Found the term saying "The conversion rate will be the prevailing rates of Visa International or MasterCard Worldwide, plus a 1% administrative fee."
http://www1.uob.com.my/personal/useful/fee...ees_charges.pdf

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Transaction Date : 31 March 2013
Posted Date : 2 April 2013
Amount charged : EUR1100
Converted Amount : MYR4434.1
Final Exchange rate: 4.031

A week before transaction, exchange rate in Midvalley was 4.026 - 4.028

For me its a good rate
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Transaction Date : 4 April 2013
Posted Date : 5 April 2013
Amount charged : USD84.30
Converted Amount : MYR261,31
Final Exchange rate: 3.0998
MasterCard rate : 3.068
Moneymaster rate : 3.085


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Hi, guys.
I read through some pages, but I didn't get a firm answer. Hope you can help me out.

I'm going to make a purchase online in USD. I have both Standard Chartered Visa and Citibank Mastercard. Is there a difference between using Visa or Mastercard in terms of conversion rate? Thanks.
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Transaction Date : 08 April 2013
Posted Date : 10 April 2013
Amount charged : USD249.00
Converted Amount : MYR782.63
Final Exchange rate: 3.143


Didn't get 5% rebate even though made transaction on weekends, Amazon delayed the payment process
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Maybank2card AMEX

Transaction Date : 08 April 2013
Posted Date : 10 April 2013
Amount charged : USD249.00
Converted Amount : MYR782.63
Final Exchange rate: 3.143
Didn't get 5% rebate even though made transaction on weekends, Amazon delayed the payment process
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Not bad after you've factored in the 5x TP which is RM3.065 only.
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Not bad after you've factored in the 5x TP which is RM3.065 only.
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yes, Maybank2card AMEX is still giving better rates after subtracting 5xTP and 5% Cashback (when applicable) comparing to Maybank2card Mastercard.
i'm always using my AMEX when charging transactions here in Philippines
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I made a payment using MBB Visa on 9 May 2013:

Transaction Date : 9 May 2013
Posted Date : 10 May 2013
Amount charged : USD 214.33
Converted Amount : MYR 645.61
Final Exchange rate: 3.012

Rate on Visa International: 2.966 (9 May 2013), 2.975 (10 May 2013)

Difference: 1.44%, 1.53% (*corrected)

I'm confused. I thought the difference should around 1%.

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QUOTE(David83 @ May 11 2013, 12:14 PM)
I made a payment using MBB Visa on 9 May 2013:

Transaction Date : 9 May 2013
Posted Date : 10 May 2013
Amount charged : USD 214.33
Converted Amount : MYR 645.61
Final Exchange rate: 3.012

Rate on Visa International: 2.966 (9 May 2013), 2.975 (10 May 2013)

Difference: 2.01%, 1.975%

I'm confused. I thought the difference should around 1%.
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Rate will be according to the posted date. Anyway, a difference of more than 1% is very normal and 3.012 beats the exchange rate offered by most money changers last week.

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I made another two payments using MBB Visa:

Transaction Date : 25 April 2013
Posted Date : 26 April 2013
Amount charged : KRW 56800
Converted Amount : MYR 157.40
Final Exchange rate: 360.8640 per MYR

Rate on Visa International: 365.2301 (25 April 2013), 365.3635 (26 April 2013)

Difference: 1.21%, 1.25%

Transaction Date : 25 April 2013
Posted Date : 26 April 2013
Amount charged : KRW 56200
Converted Amount : MYR 155.51
Final Exchange rate: 361.3916 per MYR

Rate on Visa International: 365.8983 (28 April 2013), 365.8983 (29 April 2013)

Difference: 1.25%, 1.25%

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Transaction Date : 14-May-2013
Posting Date : 15-May-2013
Amount charged in foreign currency : NZD 238
Amount billed in MYR : RM 600.37
Final exchange rate : NZD 1 : RM 2.52256
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Transaction Date : 02-May-2013
Posting Date : 03-May-2013
Amount charged in foreign currency : KRW15,000
Amount billed in MYR : RM42.31
Final exchange rate : KRW 1000 = RM 2.82
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Transaction Date: 12-May-2013
Posting Date: 14-May-2013
Amount charged in foreign currency : GBP298.00
Amount billed in MYR : 1412.38

Final exchange rate: 4.738255

Visa exchange rate on May 12: 4.606619
Visa exchange rate on May 14: 4.614738

Which means Maybank Amex charged 2.778% over Visa exchange rate (with 0% transaction fee)..

but that means only 1.778% above other cards because other banks charge 1%?

If my transaction date was 12 May which is a weekend, that means i get the weekend 5% rebate as well?
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Guys, what is international remittance? I want to buy things from japan, but dont accept our CC, can use paypal but quite a lot dif after conversion. Anyone can help pls. sad.gif
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Maybank Amex

Transaction Date: 12-May-2013
Posting Date: 14-May-2013
Amount charged in foreign currency : GBP298.00
Amount billed in MYR : 1412.38

Final exchange rate: 4.738255

Visa exchange rate on May 12: 4.606619
Visa exchange rate on May 14: 4.614738

Which means Maybank Amex charged 2.778% over Visa exchange rate (with 0% transaction fee)..

but that means only 1.778% above other cards because other banks charge 1%?

If my transaction date was 12 May which is a weekend, that means i get the weekend 5% rebate as well?
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it is well known that Amex charge higher exchange rate. I always use Master and Visa for oversea transactions.

Yes transacted on weekend so you get Rm50 rebate.
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it is well known that Amex charge higher exchange rate. I always use Master and Visa for oversea transactions.

Yes transacted on weekend so you get Rm50 rebate.
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I made a payment using MBB Visa on 15 May 2013:

Transaction Date : 15 May 2013
Posted Date : 16 May 2013
Amount charged : USD 96.18
Converted Amount : MYR 292.69
Final Exchange rate: 3.043

Rate on Visa International: 2.992 (15 May 2013), 3.055 (16 May 2013)

Difference: 1.68%, 1.23%
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Transaction Date : 22 May 2013
Posted Date : 23 May 2013
Amount charged : USD 23.14
Converted Amount : MYR 72.16
Final Exchange rate: 3.12

Rate on visa international: 3.02
Paypal conversion rate: 3.12

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Thanks. Is it the same 1.25 percent for Hsbc Premier world MasterCard also?
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Guys, what is international remittance? I want to buy things from japan, but dont accept our CC, can use paypal but quite a lot dif after conversion. Anyone can help pls. sad.gif
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Transaction Date : 28-May-2013
Posting Date : 29-May-2013
Amount charged in foreign currency : USD103.20
Amount billed in MYR : RM317.86
Final exchange rate : USD1 = RM3.08

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1 United States Dollar = 3.042000 Malaysian Ringgit


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Hi everyone,

Just saw this from Citibank

Effective 10 June 2013:

If a transaction is made in foreign currency, the transaction will be converted into Ringgit Malaysia using US Dollars as the base currency on the date on which the transaction is received and processed by Citibank and/or Visa International, MasterCard Worldwide or the relevant Card Payment Network (“Payment Network”).

The currency conversions will be based on Citibank’s prevailing foreign exchange rate and/or an exchange rate determined by the relevant Payment Network. This currency conversion will include any charges levied by the Payment Network for overseas transactions and a 1% foreign exchange conversion markup by Citibank on the converted Ringgit Malaysia amount, or such other rate as determined by Citibank and notified to you.

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Just wondering if i m better off to pay for my oversea transaction before 10/June/2013 ?

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Transaction Date : 27-May-2013
Posting Date : 29-May-2013
Amount charged in foreign currency : THB 700
Amount billed in MYR : RM73.15
Final exchange rate : 1RM= 9.569 THB

Approx 1.5% Admin fee
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Maybank2Kard Master Card

Transaction Date : 31 May 2013
Posted Date : 3 June 2013
Amount charged : SGD 18
Converted Amount : MYR 44.02
Final Exchange rate: 2.445

Transaction Date : 31 May 2013
Posted Date : 3 June 2013
Amount charged : SGD 56
Converted Amount : MYR 136.98
Final Exchange rate: 2.446

Transaction Date : 31 May 2013
Posted Date : 3 June 2013
Amount charged : SGD 252
Converted Amount : MYR 616.44
Final Exchange rate: 2.446

Transaction Date : 31 May 2013
Posted Date : 1 June 2013
Amount charged : NZD 18
Converted Amount : MYR 44.33
Final Exchange rate: 2.463

Transaction Date : 14 May 2013
Posted Date : 14 May 2013
Amount charged : NZD 238
Converted Amount : MYR 600.37
Final Exchange rate: 2.523

Citibank Clear Visa Card

Transaction Date : 14 May 2013
Posted Date : 14 May 2013
Amount charged : SGD 2292
Converted Amount : MYR 5650.03
Final Exchange rate: 2.465
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Maybankard Petronas Visa

Transaction Date : 1-Jun-2013
Posting Date : 2-Jun-2013
Amount charged in foreign currency : SGD182.00
Amount billed in MYR : RM453.32
Final exchange rate : SGD$1 = RM2.4908

Approx 1.252% Admin fee

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Transactions submitted to Visa on June 2, 2013, with a bank foreign transaction fee of 0%.
1 Singapore Dollar = 2.459970 Malaysian Ringgit


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hi all, noob here. how are we all comparing our rates to? i see some using wawasan as a comparison but the first page gives the link to visa and mastercard.

i didn't do my research and used my maybank2 amex for most of my overseas transactions cry.gif my only comfort is that most of my transactions were on the weekends so i still get the 5% cashback.

since i also have 2 Visas from MBB and UOB, i'm now trying to see which one is better. anyone compared these two before?
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Transaction Date : 8-Jun-2013
Posting Date : 9-Jun-2013
Amount charged in foreign currency : GBP251.85
Amount billed in MYR : RM1238.55
Final exchange rate : GBP1 = RM4.917808

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The rate shown is effective for transactions submitted to Visa on June 8, 2013, with a bank foreign transaction fee of 0%.

1 British Pound = 4.835468 Malaysian Ringgit


approx 1.702% admin fee

not bad leh.. quite low.. haha.. last time mine was 2.7% such a big difference..
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QUOTE(mimi1986 @ May 30 2013, 05:07 PM)
Hi everyone,

Just saw this from Citibank

Effective 10 June 2013:

If a transaction is made in foreign currency, the transaction will be converted into Ringgit Malaysia using US Dollars as the base currency on the date on which the transaction is received and processed by Citibank and/or Visa International, MasterCard Worldwide or the relevant Card Payment Network (“Payment Network”).

The currency conversions will be based on Citibank’s prevailing foreign exchange rate and/or an exchange rate determined by the relevant Payment Network. This currency conversion will include any charges levied by the Payment Network for overseas transactions and a 1% foreign exchange conversion markup by Citibank on the converted Ringgit Malaysia amount, or such other rate as determined by Citibank and notified to you.

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Just wondering if i m better off to pay for my oversea transaction before 10/June/2013 ?
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Can anyone tell if this is a good or a bad thing ? Would the transaction rate be even higher or lower after 10th June , is this initiated by Citibank , or Visa/Mastercard ?

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For the past 3 months, I have a lot of transactions made in overseas. most of the time MBB Visa and OCBC titanium will give identical exchange rate or if cheap either one of them cheap by 0.01. This is the recent one:

MBB Visa: 32.5 Aud...RM 99.1 Exchange rate: 3.05
OCBC: 23 Aud...RM 70.43 exchange rate: 3.06
Exchange rate in visa 3.04

-transaction made on the same day

if considering 1% rebate or any promotion for overseas transaction perhaps better to use OCBC card. maybe too early to make assumption. if I have time I wish I can post all the transactions

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QUOTE(cenkudu @ Jun 28 2013, 12:55 PM)
For the past 3 months, I have a lot of transactions made in overseas. most of the time MBB Visa and OCBC titanium will give identical exchange rate or if cheap either one of them cheap by 0.01. This is the recent one:

MBB Visa: 32.5 Aud...RM 99.1 Exchange rate: 3.05
OCBC: 23 Aud...RM 70.43 exchange rate: 3.06
Exchange rate in visa 3.04

-transaction made on the same day

if considering 1% rebate or any promotion for overseas transaction perhaps better to use OCBC card. maybe too early to make assumption. if I have time I wish I can post all the transactions
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OCBC used to give higher rate than MBB or MBB has increase their rate wink.gif
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i observe this in the past 3 months. maybe you are right, MBB might increase their exchange rate as well
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QUOTE(cenkudu @ Jun 28 2013, 02:08 PM)
i observe this in the past 3 months. maybe you are right, MBB might increase their exchange rate as well
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Previously was 0.5% admin fee, now it's 1% admin fee for Maybankard

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QUOTE(ronnie @ Jun 28 2013, 02:50 PM)
Previously was 0.5% admin fee, now it's 1% admin fee for Maybankard
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yes, i'm aware about that smile.gif OCBC also 1% but was reported to be higher at the end. recent transaction:

968 Aud= RM 2905...Exchange: 3.00

in Visa website: 2.98

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QUOTE(mimi1986 @ May 30 2013, 05:07 PM)
Hi everyone,

Just saw this from Citibank

Effective 10 June 2013:

If a transaction is made in foreign currency, the transaction will be converted into Ringgit Malaysia using US Dollars as the base currency on the date on which the transaction is received and processed by Citibank and/or Visa International, MasterCard Worldwide or the relevant Card Payment Network (“Payment Network”).

The currency conversions will be based on Citibank’s prevailing foreign exchange rate and/or an exchange rate determined by the relevant Payment Network. This currency conversion will include any charges levied by the Payment Network for overseas transactions and a 1% foreign exchange conversion markup by Citibank on the converted Ringgit Malaysia amount, or such other rate as determined by Citibank and notified to you.

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Just wondering if i m better off to pay for my oversea transaction before 10/June/2013 ?
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i was use my CIMB Debit Card to bought shirt in online website.

GBP 56 - RM303.86 (based on SMS from CIMB)

so CIMB Bank charges the rate is 1 GBP - RM 5.43..so expensive.

Based on Mastercard is 1 GBP - RM 4.863

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SCB Visa Platinum

08-Jul : PayPal transaction USD$48.90
10-Jul : Posted as RM160.41
Exchange Rate: 3.28037

Visa Exchange Rate as of 10-Jul : 3.183000
Admin Fee : 3.059%

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SCB Visa Platinum

08-Jul : PayPal transaction USD$48.90
10-Jul : Posted as RM160.41
Exchange Rate: 3.28037

Visa Exchange Rate as of 10-Jul : 3.183000
Admin Fee : 3.059%
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Is that still cheaper compared to paypal or more expensive?
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MBB VISA 24.00 GBP
rm 117.24
rate 4.89

14/7/2013
MBB visa
18.00 euro

rm 75.84

rate 4.21

14/7/2013
MBB DEBIT VISA
134.76 euro

rm 573.39
rate 4.26

same day.. MBB DEBIT VISA rate (4.26 ) is higher than MBB credit card VISA.. (4.21 )

any 1 can explain?

any 1 can explain?

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QUOTE(SANGKANCIL2000 @ Jul 16 2013, 11:10 PM)
14/7/2013

MBB VISA 24.00 GBP
rm 117.24
rate 4.89

14/7/2013
MBB visa
18.00 euro

rm 75.84

rate 4.21

14/7/2013
MBB DEBIT VISA
134.76 euro

rm 573.39
rate 4.26

same day.. MBB DEBIT VISA rate  (4.26 ) is higher than MBB credit card VISA.. (4.21 )

any 1 can explain?

any 1 can explain?
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same day, but were they all at the same time??

The best is, you split your purchase into 2 .. and pay with different cards.. Then you can see.
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Maybankard 2 MasterCard Gold 15-Jul-2013
EUR 108.00
RM 454.57
Exchange rate : 4.2089

OCBC MASTERCARD TITANIUM 16-Jul-2013
EUR 43.50
RM 184.89
Exchange rate : 4.2503
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Maybank VISA ATM card - SGD 1000 cash withdraw

11 July - RM 2537 ; RM12 Atm withdrawal fee

exchange rate : 2.525

17 July - RM 2766 ; RM12 Atm withdrawal fee

exchange rate : 2.754

May i know how can singapore dollar exchange rate charged so high as 2.754 ? I had made a complaint by email and customer care but they just said not their problem. They said the rate is fluctuation but i dont think 2.754 is reasonable.

Anyone here can help me ? how to make a complain or do anything?


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VISA ATM card? Are you referring to this?

Cash advance commission/Fee
VISA/MasterCard (Both Classic and Gold)
Flat rate of 5.00% of the total amount of cash advance
Min: RM10
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I am using maybank Atm card with debit card facility.

Not cash advance, they charged me double of the service charge, oversea withdrawal fee RM 12 and 10% more than board rate .


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QUOTE(watertan88 @ Jul 20 2013, 11:11 PM)
I am using maybank Atm card with debit card facility.

Not cash advance, they charged me double of the service charge, oversea withdrawal fee RM 12 and 10% more than board rate .
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I made a payment using MBB Visa on 24 July 2013:

Transaction Date : 24 July 2013
Posted Date : 25 July 2013
Amount charged : USD 37.51
Converted Amount : MYR 121.08
Final Exchange rate: 3.228

Rate on Visa International: 3.178 (24 July 2013), 3.188 (25 July 2013)

Difference: 1.58%, 1.25%
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Transaction Date : 21 July 2013
Posted Date : 21 July 2013
Amount charged : IDR 569,500
Converted Amount : MYR 184.93
Final Exchange rate: 0.000325

Rate on Visa International: 1 IDR = 0.000317 MYR

Around 2.4% higher using Premier Miles.

Anyway, latest by Citi issued on June 10, 2013:
Effective 10 June 2013:

If a transaction is made in foreign currency, the transaction will be converted into Ringgit Malaysia using US Dollars as the base currency on the date on which the transaction is received and processed by Citibank and/or Visa International, MasterCard Worldwide or the relevant Card Payment Network (“Payment Network”).

The currency conversions will be based on Citibank’s prevailing foreign exchange rate and/or an exchange rate determined by the relevant Payment Network. This currency conversion will include any charges levied by the Payment Network for overseas transactions and a 1% foreign exchange conversion markup by Citibank on the converted Ringgit Malaysia amount, or such other rate as determined by Citibank and notified to you.

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Posted Date : 24 July 2013
Amount charged : IDR 5,048,760
Converted Amount : MYR 1,612.84
Final Exchange rate: 0.00031945

Rate on Visa International: 1 IDR = 0.000312 MYR

1% charge only for this transaction. This one is hotel charge while the other one is shopping.


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let's say we are going for a vacation overseas...
is it more worth to change cash in local money changer and spend cash there or use the visa card there instead?

it brings some peace of mind not needing to bring so much cash overseas.. wink.gif
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i have a horrible experience in thailand.
where the the bank there directly convert the currency from THB into RM for me and the rate is RM1 = 8.89 THB while money changer can get RM1= 9.36 THB.

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Hi all, I just called up Citibank yesterday asking about how they calculated their exchange rates. The guy on the phone told me that on top of the 1% fee, there was an additional 1.5% which he said was charged by Visa / Mastercard. I checked my recent transactions in Thailand and Australia and confirmed that Citibank charged me 2.5% on top of the rate published at the Mastercard website. Anyone know if other banks have this extra 1.5% fee as well? Am thinking of switching to other banks in the future.
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Hi all, I just called up Citibank yesterday asking about how they calculated their exchange rates. The guy on the phone told me that on top of the 1% fee, there was an additional 1.5% which he said was charged by Visa / Mastercard. I checked my recent transactions in Thailand and Australia and confirmed that Citibank charged me 2.5% on top of the rate published at the Mastercard website. Anyone know if other banks have this extra 1.5% fee as well? Am thinking of switching to other banks in the future.
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i was afraid of that , but when i checked my recent international online transaction after converting the yen , Citibank only showed an increase of rm10 compare to rm20 if using paypal conversion

i will check again as i have 2 invoice with the same value coming in at the end of this month, i will pay the same day with one using paypal and the other using CC conversion
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Maybankard 2 MasterCard Platinum 6-Aug-2013
PHP 999.00
RM 76.80
Exchange rate : 13.0
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Maybankard 2 MasterCard Gold

09-Aug-2013
GBP 57.95
RM 296.84
Rate posted by MasterCard ( https://www.mastercard.com/global/currencyconversion/ ): 0.199137
Admin Fee: 2%

07-Aug-2013
Yen 2200
RM 75.40
Rate posted by MasterCard: 29.756173
Admin Fee: 2%

05-Aug-2013
Yen 980
RM 32.82
Rate posted by MasterCard: 30.447715
Admin Fee: 2%

05-Aug-2013
GBP 35.49
RM 179.69
Rate posted by MasterCard: 0.201481
Admin Fee: 2%

31-Jul-2013
Yen 2000
RM 67.66
Rate posted by MasterCard: 30.148331
Admin Fee: 2%


I noticed that the Maybank has increased their service fee to 2% recently sad.gif Likewise, the treat points redemption has also been depreciated, from 10000 points for RM50, increased to 12500 points for RM50


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True. Maybank credit card isn't so competitive anymore for transactions made in foreign currency. Charged quite a few things to my Maybank VISA in USD and KRW and the final rate in MYR is more or less the same as HSBC and Citibank sad.gif
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QUOTE(samantha_yeanmee @ Aug 12 2013, 10:26 AM)
I noticed that the Maybank has increased their service fee to 2% recently sad.gif Likewise, the treat points redemption has also been depreciated, from 10000 points for RM50, increased to  12500 points for RM50
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August 2013 onward, My oversea transactions shows Maybank credit card has increase the administration fee from 1% to 2%
Furthermore they revised the redemption point upward, now 100 points is only worth 40sen instead of 50sen (20% value depreciation)

Without even notify the customer before the change. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Aug 12 2013, 06:59 PM)
True. Maybank credit card isn't so competitive anymore for transactions made in foreign currency. Charged quite a few things to my Maybank VISA in USD and KRW and the final rate in MYR is more or less the same as HSBC and Citibank  sad.gif
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Any recommendation which card to switch for better rate and point benefit?
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QUOTE(mikanico @ Aug 13 2013, 10:38 AM)
Any recommendation which card to switch for better rate and point benefit?
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5% Rebate until 31 December 2013 for overseas transactions for RHB Visa Signature card... Click Here
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Charged another two transactions (in Korean Won) to my HSBC MasterCard and Maybank VISA, both transactions were made and posted on the same day and the final rate for HSBC MasterCard is a little bit lower than Maybank VISA doh.gif


QUOTE(mikanico @ Aug 13 2013, 10:38 AM)
Any recommendation which card to switch for better rate and point benefit?
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In the long term, Maybank VISA Infinite is probably the only good card from Maybank for overseas use due to its 5x TP.
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UOB VOX VISA
03 JUN SGD 14.22 = RM36.11 2.539
05 JUN SGD 99.00 = RM252.17 2.547
13 JUL SGD 66.30 = RM171.41 2.585


MBB AMEX
27-Jul-13 S$39.80 RM103.22 2.593
21-Jul-13 S$98.00 RM254.41 2.596
20-Jul-13 S$4.65 RM12.08 2.598
29-Jun-13 S$26.00 RM67.38 2.591
22-Jun-13 S$133.84 RM345.74 2.583
15-Jun-13 S$53.10 RM137.28 2.585
18-May-13 S$133.83 RM331.66 2.478

OCBC TITANIUM
27 Jul 13 S$76.20 RM196.61 2.580

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QUOTE(ronnie @ Aug 13 2013, 10:55 AM)
5% Rebate until 31 December 2013 for overseas transactions for RHB Visa Signature card... Click Here
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Hi Ronnie,

thanks for your recommendation.
Any example of real transaction to show us as reference?

Where can i find the 5% rebate info regarding this card?
5% rebate will end after December 31, 2103? what's the rebate after that?
Any limit to the 5% return? of all transaction without limit?

Thanks,
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QUOTE(mikanico @ Aug 14 2013, 12:24 PM)
Hi Ronnie,

thanks for your recommendation.
Any example of real transaction to show us as reference?

Where can i find the 5% rebate info regarding this card?
5% rebate will end after December 31, 2103? what's the rebate after that?
Any limit to the 5% return? of all transaction without limit?

Thanks,
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1. You can find the 5% info from the RHB website
2. After 31 Dec 2013, will be 1%.
3. Stated unlimited overseas and online transactions only.
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1. You can find the 5% info from the RHB website
2. After 31 Dec 2013, will be 1%.
3. Stated unlimited overseas and online transactions only.
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Thanks Human Nature.
The info has been helpful.
Found all info needed in RHB website
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anyone here have Alliance Bank Visa Infinite and used it for overseas transactions? As per MilesandMore's findings above, trying to find a card better than Maybank Visa Infinite (normal Maybank Visa/MC can throw already)

My experience with my cancelled Alliance Bank Visa (not infinite) was very high exchange rate rivalling Amex

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QUOTE(sjz @ Jul 28 2013, 07:23 PM)
i have a horrible experience in thailand.
where the the bank there directly convert the currency from THB into RM for me and the rate is RM1 = 8.89 THB while money changer can get RM1= 9.36 THB.
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this is the spectre of DCC (direct curreny conversion). You are suppose to be able to say No but I have been a victim where we are not allowed to.

well documented on travel forums especially in China
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Hi guys, can anyone share with me yr experience in using citibank card on Japan? Say now I'm going to make a purchase of 30000yen and acc to visa rate of 1:30, does it mean the amt I'm going to be charged is 30000 x 1.025 (processing fee) / 30 = rm1025?
Thx in advance
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QUOTE(blur_king @ Aug 15 2013, 05:43 PM)
Hi guys, can anyone share with me yr experience in using citibank card on Japan? Say now I'm going to make a purchase of 30000yen and acc to visa rate of 1:30, does it mean the amt I'm going to be charged is 30000 x 1.025 (processing fee) / 30 = rm1025?
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Date ---------Credit Card-------Foreign------------Local----------Supposed------Bank Charge
17/8/2012 ---UOB Visa---------GBP 3.70----------MYR 18.70----MYR 18.20------2.75%
28/9/2012 ---UOB Visa---------USD 0.25----------MYR 0.78------MYR 0.77------1.63%
29/9/2012 ---UOB Visa---------USD 0.25----------MYR 0.78------MYR 0.77------1.63%
24/10/2012---UOB Visa---------USD 8.98----------MYR 27.94----MYR 27.43-----1.84%
26/10/2012---UOB Visa---------USD 14.99---------MYR 46.64---MYR 45.57------2.35%
24/12/2012---UOB Visa---------VND 275,000.00---MYR 41.41---MYR 40.43------2.44%
29/1/2013 ---UOB Visa---------USD 17.50---------MYR 55.52----MYR 53.37-----4.03%
14/3/2013 ---UOB Visa---------USD 59.10---------MYR 188.36---MYR 183.74----2.51%
13/5/2013 ---UOB Visa---------USD 28.40---------MYR 87.20----MYR 84.63------3.04%
15/5/2013 ---UOB Visa---------USD 59.10---------MYR 173.24---MYR 176.83----2.03%
3/6/2012-----MBB MasterCard-KTM 5800.00------MYR 199.86---MYR 199.13-----0.37%
4/7/2012-----MBB MasterCard-SGD 105.00-------MYR 263.35---MYR 262.68-----0.26%

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22/6/2013 Citibank Visa SGD 28.00 MYR 72.29 MYR 70.52 2.52%
25/6/2013 Citibank Visa SGD 5.50 MYR 14.25 MYR 13.90 2.51%
25/6/2013 Citibank Visa SGD 16.50 MYR 42.75 MYR 41.70 2.51%
16/11/2012 Citibank Visa GBP 155.00 MYR 769.68 MYR 754.51 2.01%
18/9/2012 Citibank Visa CNY 129.00 MYR 64.11 MYR 62.87 1.97%
18/9/2012 Citibank Visa CNY 78.00 MYR 38.76 MYR 38.01 1.96%
22/9/2012 Citibank Visa CNY 1,163.00 MYR 572.11 MYR 560.84 2.01%
26/9/2012 Citibank Visa CNY 324.00 MYR 160.49 MYR 157.34 2.00%
25/8/2012 Citibank Visa GBP 532.49 MYR 2,668.73 MYR 2,616.15 2.01%

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HSBC also 1% admin charge.
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Base currency is MYR or the currency we spend in?
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Between SCB, PBB and UOB, which are the better rates for overseas transactions? Was told PBB don't charge processing fee, not sure how true is it.

As I'm going Europe in a month's time, using credit card is a pain in the ass with the high euros and shitty ringgit now.

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Not sure bout UOB but I tried both PBB and SCB it seems PBB rate is lower
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i tried UOB for sgd transaction, the rate is quite expensive, comparable with Amex. not sure bout Euros
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QUOTE(zenquix @ Aug 15 2013, 05:25 PM)
this is the spectre of DCC (direct curreny conversion). You are suppose to be able to say No but I have been a victim where we are not allowed to.

well documented on travel forums especially in China
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Yup..
I just realised its DCC which is a scam...

Remember to mention to the merchant to charge in LOCAL CURRENCY (eg. not RM) before let them take your card to prevent any issues after they swap the card...
Do not agree to pass them you card if they refuse to charge in Local Currency.
So far this worked in Phuket Thailand, where there is no DCC transaction so far for around 10 transactions made over there and by asking the merchant in prior to charge in Thai Bath..

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Transaction date : 22-Aug-2013
Posting date : 24-Aug-2013
EUR 25
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Exchange rate : 4.4836

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Transaction date : 22-Aug-2013
Posting date : 24-Aug-2013
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OCBC MASTERCARD TITANIUM
Transaction date : 22-Aug-2013
Posting date      : 24-Aug-2013
EUR 25
RM  112.09
Exchange rate    : 4.4836

Maybankard 2 MasterCard GOLD
Transaction date : 22-Aug-2013
Posting date      : 24-Aug-2013
EUR 25
RM  112.10
Exchange rate    : 4.484

Maybankard 2 MasterCard AMEX
Transaction date : 22-Aug-2013
Posting date      : 23-Aug-2013
EUR 25
RM  113.42
Exchange rate    : 4.5368
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can't believe the rate for M2 Master is now higher than OCBC Master shocking.gif
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can't believe the rate for M2 Master is now higher than OCBC Master  shocking.gif
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I already mentioned this few months back smile.gif

either MBB has increased their rate or OCBC become better
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USD 36.66 Ocbc MYR 122.29 3.3358

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QUOTE(cenkudu @ Aug 26 2013, 04:53 AM)
I already mentioned this few months back  smile.gif

either MBB has increased their rate or OCBC become better
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Been monitoring my spending charged in foreign currency in the past 3 months, it is definitely because MBB has increased their rate/admin charge. Everything was still fine until end of July sad.gif

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Posted Date : 14 Aug 2013
Amount charged : USD 68.77
Converted Amount : MYR 229.41
Final Exchange rate: 3.3359

Rate on Visa International: USD 1 = 3.254 MYR

2.5% charge only for this transaction.
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QUOTE(sjz @ Aug 23 2013, 07:26 PM)
Yup..
I just realised its DCC which is a scam...

Remember to mention to the merchant to charge in LOCAL CURRENCY (eg. not RM) before let them take your card to prevent any issues after they swap the card...
Do not agree to pass them you card if they refuse to charge in Local Currency.
So far this worked in Phuket Thailand, where there is no DCC transaction so far for around 10 transactions made over there and by asking the merchant in prior to charge in Thai Bath..
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Can shed some light why it is a scam? They charge you higher?
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Can shed some light why it is a scam? They charge you higher?
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yup...their exchange rate is always about 5% mark up from the prevailing rate...
and the merchant get a share of comision with the DCC fees u pay..
and some credit card issuers still charge 2% (1% by Visa, 1% by bank) even u use DCC!!
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yup...their exchange rate is always about 5% mark up from the prevailing rate...
and the merchant get a share of comision with the DCC fees u pay..
and some credit card issuers still charge 2% (1% by Visa, 1% by bank) even u use DCC!!
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The other day I get my card charge in Japan but instead of Yen it was charged in USD. Is this DCC as well? Well on the receipt it showed Yen but then the bank SMS showed USD.
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yup...i think it should be DCC...
the receipt does it got some long word like
"i am offered a choice to pay in local currency and i agree to pay in local currency with the Visa/Master reference rate and mark up stated clearly"
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QUOTE(sjz @ Sep 8 2013, 11:53 AM)
yup...i think it should be DCC...
the receipt does it got some long word like
"i am offered a choice to pay in local currency and i agree to pay in local currency with the Visa/Master reference rate and mark up stated clearly"
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I'm not sure as the receipt is in Japanese. Well can't do much but it seems converting to USD is more or less the same
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I'm not sure as the receipt is in Japanese. Well can't do much but it seems converting to USD is more or less the same
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yup...
u won't lose a fortune....since its just less than 5% difference (usual bank charge 2%, DCC won't be more than 7-8%).....
but the figures would add up if every transaction is in DCC overseas.. wink.gif

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Posting date : 09-Sep-2013
Transaction date : 08-Sep-2013

Amount charged : US$110.84
Converted Amount : RM374.93
Exchange rate: 3.3826

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Maybankard 2 VISA gold
Posting date : 09-Sep-2013 
Transaction date : 08-Sep-2013

Amount charged : US$110.84
Converted Amount : RM374.93 
Exchange rate: 3.3826

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I though MBB Visa/Master CC exchange rate suppose to be visa/master exchange rate + 1%?
( the 1% charges is confirmed by the MBB CS when I call them up to check)
Based on your posting date, the visa rate should be 3.3411 (included 1%)
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I though MBB Visa/Master CC exchange rate suppose to be visa/master exchange rate + 1%?
( the 1% charges is confirmed by the MBB CS when I call them up to check)
Based on your posting date, the visa rate should be 3.3411 (included 1%)
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Maybankard 2 VISA gold
Posting date : 09-Sep-2013 
Transaction date : 08-Sep-2013

Amount charged : US$110.84
Converted Amount : RM374.93 
Exchange rate: 3.3826

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I though MBB Visa/Master CC exchange rate suppose to be visa/master exchange rate + 1%?
( the 1% charges is confirmed by the MBB CS when I call them up to check)
Based on your posting date, the visa rate should be 3.3411 (included 1%)
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While Maybank claims it is only 1%, we all know that it is more than that. That is why the final exchange rate he got is RM3.3826.
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is it better to use cash(enough for non CC service) + MC at US or all cash at US
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Basically since Aug-01 it has been observed that MBB now charges much higher exchange rate fees and prior to that it was 1.25% above the rate @ posting date (modelled from data mining) and not 1%.

Visa rate on Sep-9 = 3.308000
MBB rate = 3.3826

Effective new MBB charge = 2.25%

Edit: Typo - rate should be 2.25%

=(3.38262360158787-3.308)/3.308

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I though MBB Visa/Master CC exchange rate suppose to be visa/master exchange rate + 1%?
( the 1% charges is confirmed by the MBB CS when I call them up to check)
Based on your posting date, the visa rate should be 3.3411 (included 1%)
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While Maybank claims it is only 1%, we all know that it is more than that. That is why the final exchange rate he got is RM3.3826.
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yeah. it seems like mine was around 1.2%

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@ the current high MBB exchange rate (sry no datapoints for MC yet). the points (0.4% value) will not cover it. Thus I would go for cash if you get a good rate for it.

Consider Amex on weekends with the 5% rebate if it is still available. Would only use CC for the convenience or if the USD rate dropped to below your cash rate.
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QUOTE(zenquix @ Sep 10 2013, 04:53 PM)
Basically since Aug-01 it has been observed that MBB now charges much higher exchange rate fees and prior to that it was 1.25% above the rate @ posting date (modelled from data mining) and not 1%.

Visa rate on Sep-9 = 3.308000
MBB rate  = 3.3826

Effective new MBB charge = 2.5%
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some additional data points

July 2013 = 1.25%
Aug-2013 = 2.25%
Sep-1 2013 = 2.25%

Very clearly they bumped it up in August to 2.25%. Hope they did not just suddenly bumped it on Sep 9 onwards. If anyone have more datapoint, do share it. Need the posting date and rate.

Edit: had a typo in the previous rate

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Hi,

I am sharing some of the transaction done with MBB Visa :-

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and below the exchange rate from VISA with transaction fees of 2.2%.

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So what will be the exchange rate for the day if exclusive of the 2.2% transaction fees? hmm.gif


Hi Bro zenquix,

QUOTE(zenquix @ Sep 10 2013, 04:53 PM)
Basically since Aug-01 it has been observed that MBB now charges much higher exchange rate fees and prior to that it was 1.25% above the rate @ posting date (modelled from data mining) and not 1%.

Visa rate on Sep-9 = 3.308000 (I believe this rates is inclusive of the transaction fees)
I got the rates from the link :- http://corporate.visa.com/pd/consumer_services/consumer_ex_rates.jsp
MBB rate  = 3.3826 (This rates from MBB Selling TT rite?)


Effective new MBB charge = 2.25%

Edit: Typo - rate should be 2.25%

=(3.38262360158787-3.308)/3.308
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QUOTE(zenquix @ Sep 10 2013, 05:11 PM)
some additional data points

July 2013 = 1.25%
Aug-2013 = 2.25%
Sep-1 2013 = 2.25%

Very clearly they bumped it up in August to 2.25%. Hope they did not just suddenly bumped it on Sep 9 onwards. If anyone have more datapoint, do share it. Need the posting date and rate.

Edit: had a typo in the previous rate
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based on my July transaction statement using my MBB MC

posting date 29/7
Trans date 28/7

THB 1848 -> RM193.47 So the rate would be 1THB = RM0.104691

Based on MasterCard website currency conversion on 29/7 1THB = RM0.102691

(0.104691-0.102691)/0.104691 roughly 2%

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QUOTE(zenquix @ Sep 10 2013, 05:01 PM)
@ the current high MBB exchange rate (sry no datapoints for MC yet). the points (0.4% value) will not cover it. Thus I would go for cash if you get a good rate for it.

Consider Amex on weekends with the 5% rebate if it is still available. Would only use CC for the convenience or if the USD rate dropped to below your cash rate.
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MBB Master charge rate 2%
MBB Amex charge rate 2.5%

If really come to the point that for the sake of convenience, might as well use MBB Amex which come with 5X treat point instead of MBB Master(which used to be so call the lowest charge rate for oversea conversion)to cover the lose even though it is not on the weekend

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QUOTE(virgoguy @ Sep 11 2013, 12:13 AM)
based on my July transaction statement using my MBB MC

posting date 29/7
Trans date 28/7

THB 1848 -> RM193.47 So the rate would be 1THB = RM0.104691

Based on MasterCard website currency conversion on 29/7 1THB = RM0.102691

(0.104691-0.102691)/0.104691 roughly 2%
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thanks for the data point

Previous analysis showed Mastercard was based on transaction date rates with a 1% markup. However rates for 28/7 not available so we use 29/7. Base is MYR.

1 MYR = 9.625552THB ~ 1THB = 0.1038901457287852

The above transaction was 1 MYR = 9.551868506745232THB ~ 1THB = 0.104691556864047

Thus the rate charged is 0.1046916-0.103890 / 0.103890 = 0.7% (not 1% as it is not based on the rates of 28/7)

So the rate is still low in July for MC. If we can get datapoints for Aug onwards....

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MBB Master charge rate 2%
MBB Amex charge rate 2.5%

If really come to the point that for the sake of convenience, might as well use  MBB Amex which come with 5X treat point instead of MBB Master(which used to be so call the lowest charge rate for oversea conversion)to cover the lose even though it is not on the weekend
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Hi,

I am sharing some of the transaction done with MBB Visa :-

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and below the exchange rate from VISA with transaction fees of 2.2%.

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So what will be the exchange rate for the day if exclusive of the 2.2% transaction fees?  hmm.gif
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I use the 0% rate on the visa website. One reason is because the admin fee input only takes one decimal point and skews calculations

The MBB rate is based on the posted values in our CC statement, not the TT rate (totally different side of the business). If they charged us TT rates, might as well not use CC overseas tongue.gif

So using your transaction snapshot

I take the 0% exchange rate for 7-Sep at 0%, My Card in MYR, My Transaction in THB:

1 Thai Baht = 0.102818 Malaysian Ringgit

So your transaction is THB3000 = MYR315.41
THB1 = 0.1051366666666667 Malaysian Ringgit

thus admin charge is (0.1051366666666667-0.102818 )/0.102818 = 0.0225511745673585 = 2.25% (or 2.26% to be more accurate)

Edit: my blog post from last year has details on the methodology. Had help from the community for datapoints then.

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QUOTE(zenquix @ Sep 11 2013, 01:41 AM)
thanks for the data point

Previous analysis showed Mastercard was based on transaction date rates with a 1% markup. However rates for 28/7 not available so we use 29/7. Base is MYR.

1 MYR = 9.625552THB ~ 1THB = 0.1038901457287852

The above transaction was 1 MYR = 9.551868506745232THB  ~ 1THB = 0.104691556864047

Thus the rate charged is 0.1046916-0.103890 / 0.103890 = 0.7% (not 1% as it is not based on the rates of 28/7)

So the rate is still low in July for MC. If we can get datapoints for Aug onwards....
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If you based on https://www.mastercard.com/global/currencyconversion/

29/7/13 1THB = RM0.102619

so the end result is ~ 2%

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base currency should be set to MYR, not THB.
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base currency should be set to MYR, not THB.
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These are my recent foreign currency transactions (all for online retailers) with Maybank 2 MC.

August definitely showed a more expensive rate

Trans Posting Foreign MYR cc rate trans day rate post day rate Fee
01-Aug 02-Aug gbp43.35 217.83 5.0249 4.9262 4.9013 2.00%
28-Jul 29-Jul gbp29.98 148.75 4.9616 4.9127 1.00%
21-Jul 22-Jul usd22.49 72.44 3.2209 3.1900 0.97%
18-Jul 19-Jul usd22.62 72.72 3.2148 3.1819 3.1899 1.03%
16-Jul 17-Jul usd25.00 80.09 3.2036 3.1719 3.1780 1.00%

Can't figure out why the low rate at end of July
Both weekend transactions 28/7 and 21/7 used the rate for Friday

CIMB Visa transaction on paypal:
Trans Posting Foreign MYR cc rate trans day rate post day rate Fee
19-Aug 22-Aug usd21.18 73.16 3.4542 3.269 3.287 5.67% 5.09%

If this is correct, CIMB Visa is reallly expensive. Can anyone confirm this?



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thanks

based on available data so far, looks like Maybank increased all their CC forex rates by a flat 1% in August. Won't be surprised if Amex is the same.

Can buy their share.. they cut their TP value (in other words their CC liability) by 20% and increase CC revenue by 1%
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thanks

based on available data so far, looks like Maybank increased all their CC forex rates by a flat 1% in August. Won't be surprised if Amex is the same.

Can buy their share.. they cut their TP value (in other words their CC liability) by 20% and increase CC revenue by 1%
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If you based on Post #465 @doremon_p

The MBB Amex charge rate still remain the same at 2.5%
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If you based on Post #465 @doremon_p

The MBB Amex charge rate still remain the same at 2.5%
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if we use the MBB MC rate and put in the following assumptions

Forex fee= 2%
Based on rate on TX date

then we can extrapolate Amex rate to 3.2%
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I use my Maybank Petronas Visa and UOB VOX Visa to purchase on a china online shopping portal called www.taobao.com, here is the list of transaction and it's rate:

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The Visa Forex is base on http://corporate.visa.com/pd/consumer_serv...er_ex_rates.jsp.

I notice that the rate always follow the posting date (1 day after the transaction date) on visa website.

Maybank use to be 1.25% admin fee but increase to 2.25% starting 1-Aug-2013.

UOB VOX is a bit higher at 2.35%, but this card will have 5% cash rebate for online shopping transaction.

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since Maybank master card no longer rated as the lowest exchange/admin charges, so which CC between SC Visa, MBB2K and OCBC Master has the best rate?
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SC i heard is crap. Someone posted rates that show OCBC is lower than MBB but u only get 1%, and eats up yr RM50 quota

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