Jeff Willet (IFBB Pro) follow this principle.
http://www.jeffwillet.com/training/workout.html

This post has been edited by axymax: Jul 1 2010, 04:12 PM

that's what i was looking for, kepuasan main besi...
hmm,oh well, guess should ought to try it then..

u hv a thick below pecs...u do decline more than incline is it ?

No decline benches at Fitness First. Wide grip weighed dips.

Hey guys , yesterday while I played football . I tackled a ball and my shoulder hurts like hell untill now , and now I can't go to gym

So guys , should I go to hospital/clinics to x-ray my shoulder ?

Yes,better have it checked out

Try it out. Definitely nothing to lose. I've made my best gains on high reppers but then my body could be different.

i like that feeling too

Proper form is less important that partial.
See how branch warren just use his body to swing and smash that f***ing weight.


This post has been edited by arekey: Jul 2 2010, 09:35 PM

Have you trained as many years as him and are you his size to fully understand how your body works to say that partials are more important than proper form? Darkie always says normal trainees need to have perfect form with a weight we can handle while the pros have very good form with heavy ass weight.

I beg to differ, maybe I am new and I might be wrong, do correct me if I am wrong. I think form is quite important in hitting the correct part of the muscle.

For normal BB'er simply swing heavy weight might cause injuries and might be hitting other part of the muscle instead of the intended part. Normal BB'er training experience would be lesser than those IFBB pro and they could handle higher weight than normal BB'er, they absolutely know what they are doing and understand their body better.

This post has been edited by chicaman: Jul 3 2010, 12:00 AM

Yeah...how's that workout routine working for you so far?

memang ade orang boleh besar main swing swing, 60% ROM
i've seen it...seriously
but they look so stupid doing it
and believe me, there's a limit to your luck
they'll reach a plateau with those kind of routine

And sooner or later, they'll get injured.

WAY off-topic: YEAH BUDDY! HOLLAND!

It's call 'drama'.

germany vs holland finals

okay okay enough getting off topics

Actually all of you aren't wrong. Branch Warren is using relatively proper form. Notice on his pressing movements he emphasizes proper stretch at the bottom? He's found that ROM which works perfectly for him and the dramatic improvements he's made in the last few Olympias obviously show. You forget, IFBB Pros are so huge that they're actually doing 3/4th's of the full movement but it looks like just half reps to an observer.

Forget about mentioning drug assistance, etc. Even with whatever perfect combination of AAS, half assed training can only get one so far when genetics and supps all are equalized. Compare Lee Priest's rep temp to Branch Warren's. Radically different but undeniably effective for each of them.



This post has been edited by darklight79: Jul 3 2010, 02:26 AM

so, in conclusion, we can just try out everything that's been said by these pros and see what's d effect on our body right?but point is, it all comes down to technique and form right bro which contribute to the results? to be honest, my weight when lifting is still consider well, kinda sissy weights eventhough i've been goin to the gym like almost 2 years.must be something wrong with me..

Beginners = perfect form, moderate weights
Advanced and professionals = good form, heavy weights high reps

They're called IFBB Pros for a reason. People are too quick to say it's all drug use, etc. But they didn't get to where they are now with half assed training and no mind muscle connection. They know what they're doing. But it doesn't mean it can work for you, which is why all pros use different training styles too.

Me doing 60kg bicep curls, strict as i can go but I can't prevent myself from swinging a little. The weight is heavy as shit.



So can you imagine those fellas who lift weights far heavier than me? No way they can do it ultra strict.

This post has been edited by darklight79: Jul 3 2010, 02:20 PM

That's what i mean.