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post Mar 25 2010, 11:36 AM, updated 16y ago

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so is there any actual info on what is the speed user would be throttled to after the bandwidth cap reached?
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post Mar 25 2010, 11:39 AM

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Can i ranting on the existing plan?

Unifi is out, the existing plan shd change right?


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post Mar 25 2010, 11:40 AM

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There will be no slowdown because ... it is HSBB smile.gif
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post Mar 25 2010, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(cyberskull @ Mar 25 2010, 11:30 AM)
Whats the price?
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QUOTE(Maestrol @ Mar 25 2010, 11:33 AM)
HSBB/UniFi

5mbps for RM149, 60GB/month cap
10mbps for RM199, 90GB/month cap
20mbps for RM249, 120GB/month cap
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post Mar 25 2010, 12:24 PM

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Streamyx is like a turtle walking along kampung road. Unifi (hurrayyy) turtle walking on highway rclxms.gif
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post Mar 25 2010, 01:06 PM

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Many people are extremely unhappy with Unifi caps. Let us boycott it until they reasonably increase the cap or drop it.

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post Mar 25 2010, 01:09 PM

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The cap is damn low and not reasonable at all.
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hmm, well its reasonable...plus there is no such thing as UNLIMITED bandwith...u go to aussie, uk same thing...the services they provide are all capped...but the difference is the PRICE!! now thats important..
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post Mar 25 2010, 01:13 PM

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hmm.. which other service in malaysia that doesn't CAP?

120GB... that is 4G daily... 1 DVD daily...
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post Mar 25 2010, 01:14 PM

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err.. how to boycott??
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post Mar 25 2010, 01:19 PM

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U guys still remember when TMnut first launched the 4MB and price at RM268(somewhere around that price range), and nobody bothers to subscribe it so ended up they forced to launch the RM160 combo deal for 4MB.

So please don't subscribe the Unifail eventhough they provide free installation.
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post Mar 25 2010, 01:23 PM

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See how many p2p/filesharing pirates complain here laugh.gif they are the only ones who will hit the cap.
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post Mar 25 2010, 01:27 PM

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dont apply till they decrease the price.

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post Mar 25 2010, 01:27 PM

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Try watching 720p Youtube videos. You'll see your usage go up. The 4 Mbps package has no cap at all at RM 160. Boycott Unifi!!
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QUOTE(Aggroboy @ Mar 25 2010, 01:23 PM)
See how many p2p/filesharing pirates complain here laugh.gif they are the only ones who will hit the cap.
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This is a ridiculous argument.

The reason HSBB is created is to cater for online content, which includes online HD content, which is not necessarily delivered through your IPTV. So you'll easily hit that 2GB/day limit with 5mbps. EASILY.

You don't have to be a pirate to hit those rates.
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post Mar 25 2010, 01:29 PM

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They already lost one trial user with their prices and cap. Im a trial user in TTDI for almost a month now. Wont be subscribing after the trial ends in June.
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Mar 25 2010, 01:28 PM)
This is a ridiculous argument.

The reason HSBB is created is to cater for online content, which includes online HD content, which is not necessarily delivered through your IPTV. So you'll easily hit that 2GB/day limit with 5mbps.  EASILY.

You don't have to be a pirate to hit those rates.
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i gotta admit, thats true mang. I think i'll go with 10Mbps if 5Mbps's cap is insufficient.

Although honestly I'd love it if they increase the cap by 10-20GB for each package but hey, its an improvement from Streamyx nonetheless!
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QUOTE(rahavsmt @ Mar 25 2010, 01:29 PM)
They already lost one trial user with their prices and cap. Im a trial user in TTDI for almost a month now. Wont be subscribing after the trial ends in June.
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Since you're a trial user

how much do you use roughly? Not counting trying to smash through their limits laugh.gif Do you think its going to be useful if its capped at 60GB? What cap do you think would be reasonable as a test user?
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post Mar 25 2010, 01:35 PM

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im not subscribing to it even though i have the option come april. cap is too low
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post Mar 25 2010, 01:36 PM

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I think that is reality, it will be capped.
If you don't want to be capped, apply for biz package.

Without capping, you can download a maximum of 6480GB per month (with 20Mb Plan).
You think TM allows you to download 6TB of data by paying RM249?

What we can protest/hope is for TM to increase the bandwidth.
I would be happy if they double it, 120GB -> 240GB, just nice for me. biggrin.gif

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post Mar 25 2010, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Mar 25 2010, 01:28 PM)
This is a ridiculous argument.

The reason HSBB is created is to cater for online content, which includes online HD content, which is not necessarily delivered through your IPTV. So you'll easily hit that 2GB/day limit with 5mbps.  EASILY.

You don't have to be a pirate to hit those rates.
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they cap 2gb each day?
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QUOTE(powerfulcool @ Mar 25 2010, 01:35 PM)
im not subscribing to it even though i have the option come april. cap is too low
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Same here, available to me, but I'm not going to support it until they up the caps by at least 150%


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QUOTE(milky @ Mar 25 2010, 01:37 PM)
they cap 2gb each day?
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its mentioned that the 60gb cap is pro-rated throughout the month, so we're assuming a 2GB cap per day from the way they describe it.

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I'd agree on the cap thing but wtf 1Mbps? thats too ghey.

Plus how would this "pay to uncap" service works anyhow? Automatic charge for extra bandwidth use or cap first then ask to be uncap?

stupiak TMnet, cap till 1Mbps for what, cap 50% subscribe speed I think is more reasonable!
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Mar 25 2010, 01:31 PM)
Since you're a trial user

how much do you use roughly? Not counting trying to smash through their limits laugh.gif Do you think its going to be useful if its capped at 60GB? What cap do you think would be reasonable as a test user?
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Well the utorrent client on my pc shows around 300gb downloaded in the last 31 days. Factor in all the rapidshare download and hd streaming the total might be at least 500gb for my pc alone and there is 3 other pc in the household.

There's no way im going to continue with the caps, 60gb??? Could barely last a week with 4 pcs in the house.

What do i think is the reasonable cap? In my case with 4 pcs, the mininum is 250gb otherwise I will be staying with streamyx. I wont probably be downloading as much because right now Im just testing their bandwith capacity. rclxms.gif But still with 4 pc 60gb is way too low.

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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Mar 25 2010, 01:37 PM)
Same here, available to me, but I'm not going to support it until they up the caps by at least 150%


Added on March 25, 2010, 1:38 pm
its mentioned that the 60gb cap is pro-rated throughout the month, so we're assuming a 2GB cap per day from the way they describe it.
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lolx.. if compared with "their competitor p1" is so much better.. xD
they capped @ 20gb @ 1.2mbps. xD
but anyway i still support the boycott on the capping
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QUOTE(rahavsmt @ Mar 25 2010, 01:40 PM)
Well the utorrent client on my pc shows around 300gb downloaded in the last 31 days. Factor in all the rapidshare download and hd streaming the total might be at least 500gb for my pc alone and there is 3 other pc in the household.

There's no way im going to continue with the caps, 60gb??? Could barely last a week with 4 pcs in the house.

What do i think is the reasonable cap? In my case with 4 pcs, the mininum is 250gb otherwise I will be staying with streamyx. I wont probably be downlaoding as much because right now Im just testing their bandwith capacity.  rclxms.gif But still with 4 pc 90gb is way too low.
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My house alone has 4 pcs as well laugh.gif well 1 pc, and 3 notebooks... tongue.gif

I think a 150GB cap for 5mbps package would suffice, there should be enough headroom for times we need to download huge patches for games and stuff. Otherwise no point going to HSBB, sticking with streamyx would make more sense.


QUOTE(milky @ Mar 25 2010, 01:42 PM)
lolx.. if compared with "their competitor p1" is so much better.. xD
they capped @ 20gb @ 1.2mbps. xD
but anyway i still support the boycott on the capping
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QUOTE(Aggroboy @ Mar 25 2010, 01:23 PM)
See how many p2p/filesharing pirates complain here laugh.gif they are the only ones who will hit the cap.
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There are a lot of ways to use lots of internet bandwidth in a short time,like buying a game from Steam(DA is 15GB for one game,CoH takes 9GB), watch HD youtube videos, or streaming movies.

I barely use p2p or file share and i can easily use 10GB a day,if i want.

Even playing a game for 2 hours with VOIP uses like 300 to 400MB,easily. Or surfing at LYN also use considerable amount of bandwidth as you are downloading sigs and avatar all the time. Try opening your Network Status on your connection and see how much you use. /k people will love their office internet connection as it probably wont have cap.

Capped internet has very restrictive nature as you if over use it,you'll suffer the consequences like slow internet or they charge you per MB. I have friends paying over 200AUD per person because they exceed 1GB of their cap. I find it actually promotes you to go out more,than sitting at the computer the whole day as you dont want to waste your bandwidth so that you dont suffer at the end of the month.

Still,HSBB is meant to encourage you to use your internet for entertainment contents,not encourage you to go out. doh.gif

Cant belive that Malaysia is actually implementing this ridiculous system,while Australia is implementing HSBB to get rid of it or increase the cap tremendously. 60GB to 120GB is way too little.

I'll keep my 1Mbps internet anyday,at least i dont have to worry about getting over the cap if i decide to go youtube marathon.

Unless you only check emails using your internet everyday,you bound to have problems with capped internet.
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i think TMNUT didnt take into account heavy users... or they just dun want heavy users to profit from this unifi hsbb... the price is just too much for the speed and also the cap included... i use 3 pcs at home (sumtimes 4) and i play my ps3 online... its just not enough for me...
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so many pirates~

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Someone should start a Boycott Unifi Facebook group too


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QUOTE(xts @ Mar 25 2010, 01:47 PM)
so many pirates~
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Please read the earlier replies explaining that most people will have problems with the cap. I'm not paying for terrible speeds after reaching the cap at the current price.

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post Mar 25 2010, 01:51 PM

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yeahhh......
that cap is damn low...
even with my current streamyx, i can easily reach 40GB a month...

inikan plak ngn 5mbps of speed...
15 hari je... ehehe tongue.gif
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wahaha..
b4 this u guys so excited bout the prices,
now, bout cap issue..
but never use it lol~

how to boycott?
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post Mar 25 2010, 01:52 PM

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then 20M ppl can still get owning speed of 10M...but it's nice..XD
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Ignore the troll.
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post Mar 25 2010, 01:56 PM

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How to boycott? Just don't subscribe. When TM sees that nobody (or very few) are signing up for this Unifi thing they might have more incentive to increase the caps.
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The price is quite affordable, its actually a surprise to me.
But looks like we're paying for the speed only, not bandwidth.

1mb: Max download = 324GB
5mb: Max download = 60GB WTF?

In terms of bandwidth, Time broadband is way better with 15-30 hours of 50Mbps boost.

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QUOTE(xts @ Mar 25 2010, 01:47 PM)
so many pirates~
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Yeah right, i spend over RM300 on Steam games last year where in the end ,all 32 games need 90GB to download every single one from scratch. On November, i downloaded 30GB of games,just in 2 days.

Considering all the patches,mods,dlc and shit, i need about 25GB per month that includes 10GB allowance for a big Steam game each month. WTF is this capped internet shit?????

Better get the damn bandwidth monitor then since im gonna use it in both countries.

Also,when you torrent, you are actually using double bandwidth,as in if your movie is 3GB,you are actually downloading 6GB+. Have fun with HSBB.

There goes my dream of using OnLive to play Crysis on i-Phone/netbook. doh.gif
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Another failed project by TM. Providing such a low monthly quota defeats the purpose of having HSBB in the first place. Does TM still thinks broadband is for casual chatting and email checking?
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QUOTE(ericpires @ Mar 25 2010, 01:55 PM)
Lets all spam TM - Price 2 expensive... Cap low somemore WTF lar

enquiry@unifi.my
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A reply from the main Unifi thread. Let us spam.
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juz stick back to my current package (1mbps)...i used 50mbps packge in UK, this unifi no different la...UK has got unlimited la...Bolehland...
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post Mar 25 2010, 02:03 PM

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I don't mind cap, but it's too damn small. Price is not worth it considering average malaysia income.

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QUOTE(Loreburner @ Mar 25 2010, 02:01 PM)
A reply from the main Unifi thread. Let us spam.
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Good idea. biggrin.gif
Let's send them a message, starting from now: enquiry@unifi.my
No point complaining here.

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why they don't lower the 1mb package price? instead of used gomen money to launch this HSBB? what is the purpose to have this very expensive package? bye bye Unifi!
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WTF the price rate are these?
1Malaysia price....
Too dissapointed at them...TM go die!
Boycott Unifi
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boycott unifi !!! price range doesnt satisfy our needs.cut the craps.
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Mar 25 2010, 01:59 PM)
Yeah right, i spend over RM300 on Steam games last year where in the end ,all 32 games need 90GB to download every single one from scratch. On November, i downloaded 30GB of games,just in 2 days.

Considering all the patches,mods,dlc and shit, i need about 25GB per month that includes 10GB allowance for a big Steam game each month. WTF is this capped internet shit?????

Better get the damn bandwidth monitor then since im gonna use it in both countries.

Also,when you torrent, you are actually using double bandwidth,as in if your movie is 3GB,you are actually downloading 6GB+. Have fun with HSBB.

There goes my dream of using OnLive to play Crysis on i-Phone/netbook. doh.gif
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I agree with the steam thing. Some patches are 100mbs in size even, and if you have a few games, expect to download like 400-500mb easily. We PAID For these games.

I just checked my internet connection usage. I restarted my pc yesterday, and didnt do any downloading, just surfing and reading some manga on onemanga.com. I've already used 700+MB downloads and 300+mb upload. That's on a 1mbps streamyx line without actually actively downloading files.


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No point to support Unifi...
Stick back my 1M package
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I honestly think the cap is sufficient... I mean, we only use internet for youtube, Malaysian Insider, facebook, msn and skype ... Nothing else... lol!

If gov has this mentality, I think they are being stupid... lol!

I do admit, even though 90 GB is sufficient for me but for the price they are offering, its a freaking rip-off... lol!

How to progress like this???

I'm sure once the penetration is improved, I'm sure iTunes, Universal studios and etc... will be offering loads of online content... TM should have taken into consideration about all these...
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Erms... i dont understand what is all this fuss about.. there are different packages catering to different group of users. For me i am a casual user. so the first package is targeted to people like me.. For heavy user that download more than 10GB a day shud opt for a higher packages.. Take for example you wanna buy a car... but u want a car that fit 8 person.. Then you complain that apala.. the Kangcil mana boleh masuk 8 person. Stupid perodua. Shud make the kangcil bigger to fit 8 person. Well for me i think the price is still high compared to our neighboring country. They should reduce the price by 20-30%
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QUOTE(Goneraz @ Mar 25 2010, 02:17 PM)
Erms... i dont understand what is all this fuss about.. there are different packages catering to different group of users. For me i am a casual user. so the first package is targeted to people like me.. For heavy user that download more than 10GB a day shud opt for a higher packages.. Take for example you wanna buy a car... but u want a car that fit 8 person.. Then you complain that apala.. the Kangcil mana boleh masuk 8 person. Stupid perodua. Shud make the kangcil bigger to fit 8 person. Well for me i think the price is still high compared to our neighboring country. They should reduce the price by 20-30%
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i think alot of ppl can settle for 5mbps speed but the cap and price makes it less attarctive. thats what the fuss is about
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QUOTE(teelim @ Mar 25 2010, 02:28 PM)
i think alot of ppl can settle for 5mbps speed but the cap and price makes it less attarctive. thats what the fuss is about
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Exactly. if it was just speed, then alright ... (grumble). but when you put the low cap into the equation = wtf !!!

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QUOTE(bluephoenix87 @ Mar 25 2010, 02:16 PM)
I honestly think the cap is sufficient... I mean, we only use internet for youtube, Malaysian Insider, facebook, msn and skype ... Nothing else... lol!

If gov has this mentality, I think they are being stupid... lol!

I do admit, even though 90 GB is sufficient for me but for the price they are offering, its a freaking rip-off... lol!

How to progress like this???

I'm sure once the penetration is improved, I'm sure iTunes, Universal studios and etc... will be offering loads of online content... TM should have taken into consideration about all these...
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The government takes our money and hands it over to TM to build up the infrastructure for Unifi. I call that subsidising. Then TM turns around to rip us all off. Worse part is they're a monopoly with little competition, thy only thing we can do is boycott disUnifi.
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At the moment I am downloading 1TB a month on my 4MB. No way am I moving over to Unifi.
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QUOTE(DeaDLocK @ Mar 25 2010, 02:40 PM)
At the moment I am downloading 1TB a month on my 4MB. No way am I moving over to Unifi.
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post Mar 25 2010, 02:42 PM

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Boycotting unifi we still lose. u know why. cauz we fall back onto 1mb streamyx adsl which also belongs to tmnut.

moral of the story, even settling for lesser of the 2 evils, tmnut still makes money off us.


The one who truly benefit is the tmnut staff with 30% discount, rich elites and those very very special important people rolleyes.gif

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At least boycotting Unifi may force them to give us a better deal. It's the best we can do.
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WTH!!! take backup from government to monopoly...got money shouldnt they know how to do?? malaysian do not need to do business..only malaysia government do business...all die
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I mean it's understandable that it's not right for me to max out a 20MB connection and get 6TB a month for RM249.

I think I would be happier with something like a 300GB cap, and then speeds drop to 5MB. That would still be acceptable.

120GB and then speeds down to 1MB? No way.
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That's it, after wasting all our people's money, that's the price they offering?? Boycott is a must... Do subscribe if you are an idiot....
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The reason why it may reduce the downloads among us is because of IPTV. But again if you insist on downloading then its not for you. Its simple as that. I'll give it a go , suppose if TM still can't deliver high speed broadband then its a failure !
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I honestly think the cap is sufficient... I mean, we only use internet for youtube, Malaysian Insider, facebook, msn and skype ... Nothing else... lol!

If gov has this mentality, I think they are being stupid... lol!

I do admit, even though 90 GB is sufficient for me but for the price they are offering, its a freaking rip-off... lol!

How to progress like this???

I'm sure once the penetration is improved, I'm sure iTunes, Universal studios and etc... will be offering loads of online content... TM should have taken into consideration about all these...
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this thread will not serve it purpose for a long long time, or at least until tmnut change the price.

no one will want to subscribe to that kinda of package
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QUOTE(prasys @ Mar 25 2010, 02:51 PM)
The reason why it may reduce the downloads among us is because of IPTV. But again if you insist on downloading then its not for you. Its simple as that. I'll give it a go , suppose if TM still can't deliver high speed broadband then its a failure !
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They should NOT force us to take IPTV. There should be an option to choose... not force it down our throats...i could care less about IPTV
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Despite I will have to wait until Q4 before HSBB reaches my area.... (Streamyx 512kbps user......)

I personally think that the 60GB cap on 5MB package is ok for me, as my monthly usage rarely exceeds 35~40GB (Using the internet mainly for playing online games, MSN, checking forums/e-mail or some Youtubing... maybe once in a while download a RAR file of musics which is less than 100MB)

What I was only concerned was the price, hope they will reduce it.... sweat.gif
Not to forget the ping.... (most important factor to me as I was playing a MMO which is hosted at Germany)
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60GB quota?WTF?!That means we can only download 30GB per month?!that is crazy.
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QUOTE(prasys @ Mar 25 2010, 02:51 PM)
The reason why it may reduce the downloads among us is because of IPTV. But again if you insist on downloading then its not for you. Its simple as that. I'll give it a go , suppose if TM still can't deliver high speed broadband then its a failure !
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comes with a 2 year contract... so it's not as easy as "ill give it a try" for most of us. gotta put a lot of thought before pulling the trigger. perhaps 4mbps streamyx is a better deal after all
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5mbps is rm149 so how about the 4m customer which paying for rm160?
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IPTV is going to be worse than Astro and yet we have to suffer for that. Unifi my ASS
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yes but they offering a high speed broadband, IPTV etc, all these consume big amount of bandwidth, with my usage the provided 120GB will exceed in 1 week, so whats the point ? back to 1mbps speed again ?
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there will be..right now they are luring ppl to sign up by saying FOC until June, but the fact is, once u subscribe, 2 year contract bonded...quite a con case for those that doesnt really know about it
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i will boycott stupid tmnut unifi until they remove cap and lower their prices to less then rm100.
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All people want is fast reliable internet with reasonable or no caps. I don't want IPTV etc if it's going to negatively affect the core service.
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according to the news, IPTV will not affect your cap because it is on another 8mb dedicated line

So, 5mb/s = cap at 60mb
Your IPTV at 8mb will not be capped
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really fakap its like were given a ferrari and they say you can drive as fast as you want but you only have 60m of road, boycott!
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TM noob....low cap bandwidth
for example 5mb cap 60GB
it take abt TWO days full download at top speed. U will definitely over the bandwidth!!

Proof
Calculation:
5000Kbits/8 = 625KBytes per second
That means in 1 second u can download abt 0.61mb
0.61mb x3600 x24 = 52, 704mb /51.46GB!!!
WTH....for pps /p2p users sure die ><
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The biggest about the cap isn't the monthly cap.

Its the DAILY CAP.
Apparently, if you're on the 5mbps package you'll have 60GB a month at that translates to 2GB a day.

Download any more than that, 1mbps you go.... or some say, 512kbps.

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I don't know to laugh, to get pissed or to cry.
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QUOTE(edwardng @ Mar 25 2010, 03:11 PM)
TM noob....low cap bandwidth
for example 5mb cap 60GB
it take abt TWO days full download at top speed. U will definitely over the bandwidth!!

Proof
Calculation:
5000Kbits/8 = 625KBytes per second
That means in 1 second u can download abt 0.61mb
0.61mb x3600 x24 = 52, 704mb /51.46GB!!!
WTH....for pps /p2p users sure die ><
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thats the purpose la they capped it. u think they give a damn about seeders/leechers?
they have to obey the copyright act anyway.
so, we as user must find a way to overcome this.
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They should NOT force us to take IPTV. There should be an option to choose... not force it down our throats...i could care less about IPTV
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I don't mind iptv so much. For me personally i think iptv is the logical step to take to replace our astro.

Remember when it rains and it kills our astro??? iptv can stream 1080p using this new hsbb. Even the phone via internet is a good thing because it's free to local calls.

The only bullshit thing is the cap size too damn small. 300gb sounds more reasonable to me as well doh.gif

And if i am pushing it, at least reduce price cheaper by making the modem and router optional so we can get our own hardware so they can lower our subscription fee. If not the modem, at least the router because that one is easily available.


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The biggest about the cap isn't the monthly cap.

Its the DAILY CAP.
Apparently, if you're on the 5mbps package you'll have 60GB a month at that translates to 2GB a day.

Download any more than that, 1mbps you go.... or some say, 512kbps.

doh.gif

I don't know to laugh, to get pissed or to cry.
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So no more repeats. Just watch what you want to watch whenever you want thumbup.gif


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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Mar 25 2010, 03:13 PM)
The biggest about the cap isn't the monthly cap.

Its the DAILY CAP.
Apparently, if you're on the 5mbps package you'll have 60GB a month at that translates to 2GB a day.

Download any more than that, 1mbps you go.... or some say, 512kbps.

doh.gif

I don't know to laugh, to get pissed or to cry.
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TM Nut can go die now.

2GB is too little.

2-3 albums in 320kbps,a few hours of TF2, and one patch,im back to stone age.
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Nothing will change when something is under Tmnet . Their policy is always $$$ > services > everything ( see the place where they launch HSBB and u'll know ... )

When other country is striving to improve their internet nationwide /worldwide Tmnet is working on " improving " their pocket size ....

Pathetic
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Now tmnut really show their true monopoly nature with unifail, nobody can't do a damn thing if they go on with the standard package regardless of complains, boycott!
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have you seen the content on iptv? it's so pathetic and lame that it makes you want to get a parabola dish to watch better content for free.
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HSBB -- what a joke! Really potong stim!

Apparently, even folks in Russia are getting better value and deals for their broadband i.e. Corbina offers 30Mbps UNLIMITED for only RM160.

In Singapore, SingTel is offering 10Mbps UNLIMITED for only SGD56.90 (~RM130).

With UniFi you pay RM149 but only get 5Mbps with 60GB cap. Malaysia memang BOLEH!

I think I'll just stick to Streamyx for now even though HSBB is available in my area. The downloads from sites outside Malaysia, e.g. Youtube is already super slow with my 2Mbps connection....I don't think upgrading to 5 or 10Mbps is going to help.




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For those who does not want cap usage, please sign up for business package......business package no cap but 5Mbps have to pay extra RM50.....
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For those who does not want cap usage, please sign up for business package......business package no cap but 5Mbps have to pay extra RM50.....
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QUOTE(makawalla @ Mar 25 2010, 03:20 PM)
HSBB -- what a joke! Really potong stim!

Apparently, even folks in Russia are getting better value and deals for their broadband i.e. Corbina offers 30Mbps UNLIMITED for only RM160.

In Singapore, SingTel is offering 10Mbps UNLIMITED for only SGD56.90 (~RM130).

With UniFi you pay RM149 but only get 5Mbps with 60GB cap. Malaysia memang BOLEH! 

I think I'll just stick to Streamyx for now even though HSBB is available in my area. The downloads from sites outside Malaysia, e.g. Youtube is already super slow with my 2Mbps connection....I don't think upgrading to 5 or 10Mbps is going to help.
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Remember it's not malaysia boleh, MALAYsia boleh........

Hope some one in my area whose is not it literate install HSBB and do not put password for their wifi, then can share share lah...


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QUOTE(PrinceCaspien @ Mar 25 2010, 03:24 PM)
For those who does not want cap usage, please sign up for business package......business package no cap but 5Mbps have to pay extra RM50.....
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QUOTE(PrinceCaspien @ Mar 25 2010, 03:24 PM)
For those who does not want cap usage, please sign up for business package......business package no cap but 5Mbps have to pay extra RM50.....
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Lol. No.

You cannot sign for a business package in a resedential premise, unless you state that you are running a business from home where by you'll need to proove the credentials of your business to them.
Don't go thinking TM is that stupid to seemingly put a big loophole there so everyone will subscribe for the 5mbps business package.
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this is just retarded... wat sort a stupid idiotic business plan is this? yea they wana get profit and all but i dun think they r looking at the big picture here... alot of different users and they onli came up with 3 packages with caps? thats really retarded... if its unlimited usage with the current pricing then i wouldnt mind it... but as for now... this is a f**ked up business strategy...
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Mar 25 2010, 03:29 PM)
Lol. No.

You cannot sign for a business package in a resedential premise, unless you state that you are running a business from home where by you'll need to proove the credentials of your business to them.
Don't go thinking TM is that stupid to seemingly put a big loophole there so everyone will subscribe for the 5mbps business package.
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simple mah, to register enterprise company on need RM60 mah....put your home address....

if the 5Mbps is stable......nonstop downloading......you will hit 1.8GB of data in 1 hour, if you continuous download.....within 60hours, we'll hit the cap within 2 days......
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hey it ok what,TMnet is the best in the world, they not even provide internet but also cheap phone rate

no other provider in the world providess FREE call to TMlines nationwide,FLAT rate call to all mobile package, free streamyx zone ID and free 2gb email. glorious rite?

ahh, i love TM. 'Bersamamuuuuuu'


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I woke up today waiting for good news about the disUnifi. Instead I'm boiling inside because of the disgusting cap. I feel so betrayed because I thought this time the government would ensure a good deal. Perhaps someone finally woke up. It never materialised, Malaysia really fails. Well, what can we do, we always get the raw deal. We're just living in a hopeless place called TAK Bolehland.

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Another issue is that TMNut might also throttle the speed during peak hours. They should either drop the cap or increase it if they want to maintain the price. Nonsense la this TMNut.
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I agree with most of the comment here.

The pricing should be adjusted, especially for the streamyx packages. This would give ppl the choice of a slower connection for cheaper or pay more if you want faster connections.

However the cap is just plain stupid!! Why bother with having a 10Mbps or 20Mbps speed, if download is capped at such low levels? Might as well just stick with Streamyx (probably better to do so). It's like allowing you to use a Boeing 747 aircraft but you can only fly as far as Malacca not further. Makes no sense.

If protecting bandwith is so important, then attract more people to the slower connections by making it cheaper for the old streamyx packages. Anyone willing to pay more, should have the luxury of using what they are paying for.

And I totally agree, 10Mbps/20Mbps is faster, but not nearly as fast as our neighbours!

I personally think the Time.com fiber broadband deal is better (just be cause it is uncapped). At least there, if you need more than allocated, then you just have to pay more. Everyone wins, consumers and company(who makes more money from people who is willing to pay more for higher speeds for longer than the free hours given)

Boikot Unifi or whatever stupid name they give this service.
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QUOTE(PrinceCaspien @ Mar 25 2010, 03:32 PM)
simple mah, to register enterprise company on need RM60 mah....put your home address....

if the 5Mbps is stable......nonstop downloading......you will hit 1.8GB of data in 1 hour, if you continuous download.....within 60hours, we'll hit the cap within 2 days......
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Thing is, not everyone is working... what are students gonna do? lol.
And wanna go through all the hassle to go register a company, and then to get a measely rip-off RM200 5mbps package? lulz.... talk about retardness.

If you read my post in the last page, theres a daily cap.
So you won't hit 60GB in two days.
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QUOTE(wuszhtag @ Mar 25 2010, 03:32 PM)
hey it ok what,TMnet is the best in the world, they not even provide internet but also cheap phone rate

no other provider in the world providess FREE call to TMlines nationwide,FLAT rate call to all mobile package, free streamyx zone ID and free 2gb email. glorious rite?

ahh, i love TM. 'Bersamamuuuuuu'
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Gmail has 7GB,why the hell i want to use their email?

And Gmail is free.
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this is what they called helping "org miskin" so that they can use the internet @ their home... well done TM!!!
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QUOTE(Boat Collector @ Mar 25 2010, 03:34 PM)
I agree with most of the comment here.

The pricing should be adjusted, especially for the streamyx packages. This would give ppl the choice of a slower connection for cheaper or pay more if you want faster connections.

However the cap is just plain stupid!! Why bother with having a 10Mbps or 20Mbps speed, if download is capped at such low levels? Might as well just stick with Streamyx (probably better to do so). It's like allowing you to use a Boeing 747 aircraft but you can only fly as far as Malacca not further. Makes no sense.

If protecting bandwith is so important, then attract more people to the slower connections by making it cheaper for the old streamyx packages. Anyone willing to pay more, should have the luxury of using what they are paying for.

And I totally agree, 10Mbps/20Mbps is faster, but not nearly as fast as our neighbours!

I personally think the Time.com fiber broadband deal is better (just be cause it is uncapped). At least there, if you need more than allocated, then you just have to pay more. Everyone wins, consumers and company(who makes more money from people who is willing to pay more for higher speeds for longer than the free hours given)

Boikot Unifi or whatever stupid name they give this service.
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Mar 25 2010, 03:37 PM)
Gmail has 7GB,why the hell i want to use their email?

And Gmail is free.
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true,

we dont want wateva shit u giving us TM,

we just want the broadband service! just discard ur stupid VOICE/VIDEO/FREE package, put that in Streamyx package. HSBB is suppose to be about broadband all the way and yes, lower the price when all these shit is gone mad.gif
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this unifi service name should be changed to UNIKOK, because of high price, lousy cap & lame iptv. parabola dish better then iptv.
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GLC have always been stained by dirty money and politics as everyone is blinded by money while the people who put their hard earned money trusting them to provide an honest and reliable service is ignored. Even malaysia's ip backbone is owned by tm. I doubt there will be any foreign provider coming in soon as they too are disgusted by the way we do business here in malaysia and even they do come in still tm have the upper hand backed by the government. icon_idea.gif
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Is the IPTV bandwidth is excluded from 60GB ? otherwise watching TV itself all gone !
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what will happen when cap is reached? cut 80% of the speed?
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Is the IPTV bandwidth is excluded from 60GB ? otherwise watching TV itself all gone !
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It's not,some else said it's on another dedicated 8MB line.So,you are getting a 8MB line dedicated for IPTV,and your subcried line for you normal usage.Do we even need IPTV???

These people are ubelievably stupid, assuming that IPTV can manage 24/7 non stop broadcasting. Why cant they get rid of that IPTV and give everyone a 8MB unlimited interenet?

If not,dont tell me the IPTV also lags when too many people is watching it. doh.gif

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what will happen when cap is reached? cut 80% of the speed?
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Reduce to 1MB.
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tm expert? expert in what? expert in pay more money for cap?

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Who cares about stupid IPTV. If I wanted to watch all the rerun movies or out of date series, I just download the torrent. 720p to 1080p somemore... HD.. so don't even need Astro Beyond.

Unfortunately, these moves are 4GB each and each series about 300-600MB per episode.

And for the house phone. I have it because it is required for Streamyx, but every month I don't even make a single call from the house phone.. Mobile phone for short calls and If wanted to talk long long.. then just use Skype. Again the cap becomes a bummer!
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i read this juz now from thestar but not sure its true or not

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Telekom Malaysia has also capped the amount of data that can be downloaded using each of the packages, in an effort to maintain high surfing speeds.

The 5Mbps package has a 60GB monthly cap on downloads; the 10Mbps package has a 90GB cap, and the 20Mbps package has a 120GB cap. To compare, a typical two-hour high-definition movie is about 8GB in size.

However, some industry pundits have pointed out that the caps are calculated on a daily basis, which restricts the amount of data that can be downloaded each day in a month.


Link: Here

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QUOTE(d8kd @ Mar 25 2010, 03:46 PM)
what will happen when cap is reached? cut 80% of the speed?
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Someone already found out that it reverts to 1mb speed if you exceed. Or you can tell tmnut to let you bypass the cap, however you pay for extra bandwidth everytime you exceed your bandwidth.


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i read this juz now from thestar but not sure its true or not

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Telekom Malaysia has also capped the amount of data that can be downloaded using each of the packages, in an effort to maintain high surfing speeds.

The 5Mbps package has a 60GB monthly cap on downloads; the 10Mbps package has a 90GB cap, and the 20Mbps package has a 120GB cap. To compare, a typical two-hour high-definition movie is about 8GB in size.

However, some industry pundits have pointed out that the caps are calculated on a daily basis, which restricts the amount of data that can be downloaded each day in a month.


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It's TRUE. so boycott UNIKOK!!!!
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Mar 25 2010, 03:50 PM)
It's not,some else said it's on another dedicated 8MB line.So,you are getting a 8MB line dedicated for IPTV,and your subcried line for you normal usage.Do we even need IPTV???

These people are ubelievably stupid, assuming that IPTV can manage 24/7 non stop broadcasting. Why cant they get rid of that IPTV and give everyone a 8MB unlimited interenet?

If not,dont tell me the IPTV also lags when too many people is watching it. doh.gif
Reduce to 1MB.
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That 8 mb is local i thought doh.gif ??? I think thats why they can gurantee that for iptv.
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you idiots don't seem to understand. they need to cap it because there isn't enough bandwidth to go around for everyone. get it?

streamyx is also getting capped soon, enjoy it while it last.
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Mar 25 2010, 01:44 PM)
Capped internet has very restrictive nature as you if over use it,you'll suffer the consequences like slow internet or they charge you per MB. I have friends paying over 200AUD per person because they exceed 1GB of their cap.

FIrst of all, nobody made them sign up for a 1GB package. They wanted to be penny-wise and pound-foolish, and they earned the rewards. Secondly, according to my calculations, 60GB is almost sixty times higher than 1GB.

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I find it actually promotes you to go out more,than sitting at the computer the whole day as you dont want to waste your bandwidth so that you dont suffer at the end of the month.

Not necessarily a bad thing.

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Unless you only check emails using your internet everyday,you bound to have problems with capped internet.
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I use VoIP and video conferencing all the time, I transfer lots of data, I watch some TV shows online, and I don't come anywhere near 60GB of usage per month.

Before making any claims about how crazy or wonderful the cap is, we would need to see TM's actual historical usage data. They are foolish for not providing it. If they can show a chart that says "Of our one million customers, only ten thousand used more than 60GB in one month," then they have solved their PR problem, because it would be easy to paint that 1% as the pirates and porn fiends.

Otherwise, we can only guess. However, based on my activities, and those of people I know, I would think that the caps are reasonable for the vast majority of users.

Still, I don't like the sound of it. It feels like I am being restricted even if in practice it means nothing to me. But that's not a rational judgment.
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However, some industry pundits have pointed out that the caps are calculated on a daily basis, which restricts the amount of data that can be downloaded each day in a month.


LOL WHAT DA FAK!!? SO THATS 2GB A DAY download limit!!??

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QUOTE(Boat Collector @ Mar 25 2010, 03:59 PM)
Who cares about stupid IPTV. If I wanted to watch all the rerun movies or out of date series, I just download the torrent. 720p to 1080p somemore... HD.. so don't even need Astro Beyond.

Unfortunately, these moves are 4GB each and each series about 300-600MB per episode.

And for the house phone. I have it because it is required for Streamyx, but every month I don't even make a single call from the house phone..  Mobile phone for short calls and If wanted to talk long long.. then just use Skype. Again the cap becomes a bummer!
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I think your home phone gonna be important for you by then.

I never use Skype when im in Aus.

QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Mar 25 2010, 04:05 PM)
That 8 mb is local i thought doh.gif ??? I think thats why they can gurantee that for iptv.
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However, some industry pundits have pointed out that the caps are calculated on a daily basis, which restricts the amount of data that can be downloaded each day in a month."

LOL WHAT DA FAK!!? SO THATS 2GB A DAY download limit!!??
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yep. 2GB a day. you will be capped faster before you can say UNIKOK!
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I really think it is dumb of them to set a CAP for the service & the price they charge is crazy! Do they think because they are the only 1 ISP that is providing this service gives them the right to do so... well they can GTH for all i care. I'm not gonna use unifi until they change the policy and reduce the price.

Oi TM, do you think we grow money on trees ar?

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even worse than RS at least RS got 5gb a day and dont forget happy hour... will TM impose happy hour
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i think the boycott is only applicable to residents of Subang Jaya, Shah Alam, TTDI & Bangsar.... the rest of us still using TM streamyx...
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QUOTE(mintgadget @ Mar 25 2010, 04:14 PM)
even worse than RS at least RS got 5gb a day and dont forget happy hour... will TM impose happy hour
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TM happy hour..i wonder.

so basically if u use RS, then u gonna waste another 3gb download quota there.


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even worse than RS at least RS got 5gb a day and dont forget happy hour... will TM impose happy hour
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TM happy hour..i wonder.

so basically if u use RS, then u gonna waste another 3gb download quota there.

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QUOTE(rajulkabir @ Mar 25 2010, 04:07 PM)
FIrst of all, nobody made them sign up for a 1GB package. They wanted to be penny-wise and pound-foolish, and they earned the rewards. Secondly, according to my calculations, 60GB is almost sixty times higher than 1GB.
Not necessarily a bad thing.
I use VoIP and video conferencing all the time, I transfer lots of data, I watch some TV shows online, and I don't come anywhere near 60GB of usage per month.

Before making any claims about how crazy or wonderful the cap is, we would need to see TM's actual historical usage data. They are foolish for not providing it. If they can show a chart that says "Of our one million customers, only ten thousand used more than 60GB in one month," then they have solved their PR problem, because it would be easy to paint that 1% as the pirates and porn fiends.

Otherwise, we can only guess. However, based on my activities, and those of people I know, I would think that the caps are reasonable for the vast majority of users.

Still, I don't like the sound of it. It feels like I am being restricted even if in practice it means nothing to me. But that's not a rational judgment.
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Firstly,I mentioned for that they have exceed the cap by 1GB.Not they pay for 1GB.

Definitely reasonable if you are using the whole line alone. If i count my monthly usage, i only use 25GB,max with an allowance for one huige Steam game.If not,15GB would be more than enough.

Problem occurs when you are sharing the line with people,which is hard to avoid when you are a student.

I never like the idea of having a bandwidth monitor that tells me how much i have used.
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QUOTE(rockets @ Mar 25 2010, 04:06 PM)
you idiots don't seem to understand. they need to cap it because there isn't enough bandwidth to go around for everyone. get it?

streamyx is also getting capped soon, enjoy it while it last.
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Read this article and open up your eyes rolleyes.gif

http://ariffshah.com/unifi-high-speed-broa...-russians-hsbb/


The issue at hand is the price for speed with a small cap is not justified, seeing as how other countries are able to offer faster for cheaper and at unlimited no less. So why can't tmnut ?


If not enough international bandwidth, they need to upgrade, not make stupid sponsorship deals with alex ferguson's manchester united rolleyes.gif Money is being wasted quite openly.

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QUOTE(Sichiri @ Mar 25 2010, 04:09 PM)
LOL WHAT DA FAK!!? SO THATS 2GB A DAY download limit!!??
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not to mention price is expensive, and we cant really benefit from unifi cos international bandwidth is still a slow snail.


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How did all of you hit 60GB cap in 1 month? I can't even fully utillize an 80GB hard disk I bought 7 years ago.

I use Internet for online learning, checking emails, playing online games, perform driver updates and patches, the occasional 1-2 mp3 download a month and 2 episodes of anime + 1 or 2 movies a week through PPS. I can't imagine what most people do to hit the 60GB cap in a month.

The only concern I have is the price and those crappy IPTV, Streamyx Zone ID and email account. I don't need those and I don't want those.

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Why not they come out with 1MB RM 50 unlimited ?
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Why not they come out with 1MB RM 50 unlimited ?
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that's bad news...i think I'm better stick with 4 Megabit Streamyx....because i'm doing 25 to 30 GB a day....
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QUOTE(rajulkabir @ Mar 25 2010, 04:07 PM)
FIrst of all, nobody made them sign up for a 1GB package. They wanted to be penny-wise and pound-foolish, and they earned the rewards. Secondly, according to my calculations, 60GB is almost sixty times higher than 1GB.
Not necessarily a bad thing.
I use VoIP and video conferencing all the time, I transfer lots of data, I watch some TV shows online, and I don't come anywhere near 60GB of usage per month.

Before making any claims about how crazy or wonderful the cap is, we would need to see TM's actual historical usage data. They are foolish for not providing it. If they can show a chart that says "Of our one million customers, only ten thousand used more than 60GB in one month," then they have solved their PR problem, because it would be easy to paint that 1% as the pirates and porn fiends.

Otherwise, we can only guess. However, based on my activities, and those of people I know, I would think that the caps are reasonable for the vast majority of users.

Still, I don't like the sound of it. It feels like I am being restricted even if in practice it means nothing to me. But that's not a rational judgment.
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Even if they did that, I would still call it an irrelevant comparison.

Can you take usage data of 56k users to extrapolate the needs when you go on to ADSL? HELL NO

Sure, MOST people would not use up to 60GB a month, but MOST people also won't be needed the speeds provided by HSBB, their needs are more than catered to using 512kbps streamyx or even if they need to, 1mbps package. Even the 1mbps package is overkill for some.

The whole point of getting 5mbps is so you can really enjoy the stuff that requires higher bandwidth. Its like giving you a ferrari, with a speed limiter of 60kph. Defeats the whole bloody purpose.

Most of us here are fine with caps, and I would actually advocate caps because it keeps the whole system under control and a better experience for everyone. However the caps should be justified, a 60GB cap on a 5mbps line doesn't make any sense.

I calculated in the other thread, that if you average out the usage of HSBB to 8 hours a day with a 60GB/month (2GB/day) cap. To use up your cap, you would need to average your usage to about 900kbps for that 8 hours. So what's the point of getting HSBB? With that kind of usage rates, you might as well stick with streamyx.

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user posted image

Read this article and open up your eyes  rolleyes.gif

http://ariffshah.com/unifi-high-speed-broa...-russians-hsbb/
The issue at hand is the price for speed with a small cap is not justified, seeing as how other countries are able to offer faster for cheaper and at unlimited no less. So why can't tmnut ?
If not enough international bandwidth, they need to upgrade, not make stupid sponsorship deals with alex ferguson's manchester united  rolleyes.gif Money is being wasted quite openly.
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i never said the price was right, i said there was a need to CAP. if there was no cap everyone is going to have turtle speed and you would be here crying again. so which is it you want?

TM is already pulling another cable to the US, you think a cable this long can be done in one day? even if you had the money it'd still take years to finish. it's just unfortunate they had to roll out HSBB when they don't have enough international bandwith to support it, which is why for now it needs to be capped.


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How did all of you hit 60GB cap in 1 month? I can't even fully utillize an 80GB hard disk I bought 7 years ago.

I use Internet for online learning, checking emails, playing online games, perform driver updates and patches, the occasional 1-2 mp3 download a month and 2 episodes of anime + 1 or 2 movies a week through PPS. I can't imagine what most people do to hit the 60GB cap in a month.

The only concern I have is the price and those crappy IPTV, Streamyx Zone ID and email account. I don't need those and I don't want those.
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You download shows, but what quality do you download? Do you watch crappy rmvb encodes? do you watch normal hdtv episodes? or do you watch 720p videos?

HSBB is meant to allow you access HD content like 720p videos and even stream it without problems, but if you have a 60GB cap, that just doesn't make any sort of sense.
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QUOTE(neoengsheng @ Mar 25 2010, 04:36 PM)
How did all of you hit 60GB cap in 1 month? I can't even fully utillize an 80GB hard disk I bought 7 years ago.

I use Internet for online learning, checking emails, playing online games, perform driver updates and patches, the occasional 1-2 mp3 download a month and 2 episodes of anime + 1 or 2 movies a week through PPS. I can't imagine what most people do to hit the 60GB cap in a month.

The only concern I have is the price and those crappy IPTV, Streamyx Zone ID and email account. I don't need those and I don't want those.
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Unlike you my 2 days download is about 8-10GB. Thank you for giving us more bandwidth with your low utilization notworthy.gif
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Form a group in anti-hsbb facebook and invite PM..to express our dissatisfactions..
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QUOTE(neoengsheng @ Mar 25 2010, 04:36 PM)
How did all of you hit 60GB cap in 1 month? I can't even fully utillize an 80GB hard disk I bought 7 years ago.

I use Internet for online learning, checking emails, playing online games, perform driver updates and patches, the occasional 1-2 mp3 download a month and 2 episodes of anime + 1 or 2 movies a week through PPS. I can't imagine what most people do to hit the 60GB cap in a month.

The only concern I have is the price and those crappy IPTV, Streamyx Zone ID and email account. I don't need those and I don't want those.
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you miss one thing to do, download movie/tv series to watch......1 tv series average around 360mb, so if a series have 20 episode that will be around 7.2GB and that's just 1 tv series, there are tons and tons of tv series out there......


Basically now TM is the king as they have 5Mbps as their lowest fibre optic lines speed, till any other wireless who can achieve these speed, i do not think they will lower their charges.........TM have a KIASU mindset...that's the problem....., and all those crooks with 4G spectrum awarded to them are just sitting there and do nothing.....
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Form a group in anti-hsbb facebook and invite PM..to express our dissatisfactions..
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Tm has always been king and the government wants it to stay that way as it is in their best interest, and for you waiting for foreign isp to save us it will not happen in the near future even if it does the government will be really bias towards them especially if its singtel lol
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And not forgeting their stupid U advertisement, what a waste of money, nothing great anywhere.....


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QUOTE(satoshi.mifune @ Mar 25 2010, 04:55 PM)
Tm has always been king and the government wants it to stay that way as it is in their best interest, and for you waiting for foreign isp to save us it will not happen in the near future even if it does the government will be really bias towards them especially if its singtel lol
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QUOTE(rockets @ Mar 25 2010, 04:42 PM)
i never said the price was right, i said there was a need to CAP. if there was no cap everyone is going to have turtle speed and you would be here crying again. so which is it you want?

TM is already pulling another cable to the US, you think a cable this long can be done in one day? even if you had the money it'd still take years to finish. it's just unfortunate they had to roll out HSBB when they don't have enough international bandwith to support it, which is why for now it needs to be capped.
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I want them to make the cap more reasonable at least ( my usage is roughly 300 gb ish a month )+ remove the daily cap, Or remove cap altogether; Or reduce the price so we don't need to b**** about the cap hmm.gif
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Mar 25 2010, 04:43 PM)
You download shows, but what quality do you download? Do you watch crappy rmvb encodes? do you watch normal hdtv episodes? or do you watch 720p videos?

HSBB is meant to allow you access HD content like 720p videos and even stream it without problems, but if you have a 60GB cap, that just doesn't make any sort of sense.
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I don't actually download any show but if you count watching through PPS as download, then yes I download through PPS.

PPS is like a method for me to find out if a movie is good or bad. If I enjoy a movie, I wait for the DVD and buy it. For big titles like Transformers and recently Alice in Wonderland, I watch it in the cinema on weekend.

For series like Supernatural, I watch them on PPS as well and buy the DVD when its available, I have 3 seasons on DVD now.

FOr anime, I watch it on PPS or just read teh comic, I'm only interested in the story and the artwork, I don't need HD to be able to enjoy it.


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you miss one thing to do, download movie/tv series to watch......1 tv series average around 360mb, so if a series have 20 episode that will be around 7.2GB and that's just 1 tv series, there are tons and tons of tv series out there......
Basically now TM is the king as they have 5Mbps as their lowest fibre optic lines speed, till any other wireless who can achieve these speed, i do not think they will lower their charges.........TM have a KIASU mindset...that's the problem....., and all those crooks with 4G spectrum awarded to them are just sitting there and do nothing.....
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I might be a freak or something but I'm not into TV series. The only series that got my attention is Supernatural and that is coming to an end.

I haven't torrent any movie, series, game, mp3 for years.

I suppose thats why I have low utillization.

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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Mar 25 2010, 04:41 PM)
Even if they did that, I would still call it an irrelevant comparison.

Can you take usage data of 56k users to extrapolate the needs when you go on to ADSL? HELL NO

No, but I can take usage data of 4mbps ADSL users to extrapolate the "needs" of 5mbps HSBB users.

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Sure, MOST people would not use up to 60GB a month, but MOST people also won't be needed the speeds provided by HSBB, their needs are more than catered to using 512kbps streamyx or even if they need to, 1mbps package. Even the 1mbps package is overkill for some.

The whole point of getting 5mbps is so you can really enjoy the stuff that requires higher bandwidth. Its like giving you a ferrari, with a speed limiter of 60kph. Defeats the whole bloody purpose.

Where I come from, 100+mbps is common, and I am used to such speeds. I find it provides a lot of advantages - when I need a 1GB dataset I can download it in minutes instead of hours. When I want to relax with some video entertainment I never have to wait. But I do not find myself downloading 18TB per day just because I can.

I have no idea what the purpose of owing a Ferrari is, but I suspect it aligns with the same mentality that says "I have 10mbps so I am damn well going to download at that speed 24/7 just because I can". This is never something I have understood; it all seems sociopathic to me. But I come from a very different cultural background.

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Most of us here are fine with caps, and I would actually advocate caps because it keeps the whole system under control and a better experience for everyone. However the caps should be justified, a 60GB cap on a 5mbps line doesn't make any sense.

Ok, we're in basic agreement, it's just a matter of negotiating the levels now.

Like it or not, TM does have limited international bandwidth and it has to be allocated among all the users. The higher the cap, the worse performance low-usage customers will see. So, the higher the cap, the more TM is rewarding the customers who cost them money. There is very little incentive for them to set the cap higher than the lowest level the market will tolerate. We may debate about whether the market will tolerate 60GB@5mbps but I suspect that only time will truly tell.
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QUOTE(satoshi.mifune @ Mar 25 2010, 04:55 PM)
Tm has always been king and the government wants it to stay that way as it is in their best interest

The sad thing is, it is NOT in the government's best interest.

It is in the government's best interest to facilitate open competition in the broadband market. That will make the people happier with the government and more likely to keep them in office. It will make Malaysia a wealthier country so there is more money to go around in taxes (or even bribes).

The huge problem with the government (and with many businesses here) is that they are so focused on getting RM1 today that they throw away the chance to get RM10 tomorrow.
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That's why, typical Asians have that, if can be use, use it to the max. If they give 60Gb cap, try to use as much as possible. Maybe last time they should have capped old streamyx package at lower cap, then this time the strategy to cap at 60gb would let ppl cheer instead. LOL
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Mar 25 2010, 04:59 PM)
I want them to make the cap more reasonable at least ( my usage is roughly 300 gb ish a month )+ remove the daily cap, Or remove cap altogether; Or reduce the price so we don't need to b**** about the cap  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(rajulkabir @ Mar 25 2010, 05:12 PM)
The sad thing is, it is NOT in the government's best interest.

It is in the government's best interest to facilitate open competition in the broadband market. That will make the people happier with the government and more likely to keep them in office. It will make Malaysia a wealthier country so there is more money to go around in taxes (or even bribes).

The huge problem with the government (and with many businesses here) is that they are so focused on getting RM1 today that they throw away the chance to get RM10 tomorrow.
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i know we are not in their shoes to know how hard it is to resist the temptation to squeeze all the money you can while you have the opportunity but what the heck icon_idea.gif

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QUOTE(satoshi.mifune @ Mar 25 2010, 05:14 PM)
i agree, no point of them rolling out high speeds if they are only targeting users who surf and check their e-mails, heck even streamyx lowest speed could accomplish that easily unless they are trying to squeeze all the unused bandwith they can get by these customers so they could make more profit selling them to other country while still get money from monthly subscription


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greed blinded these people which causes them to look in their direction but not ours  doh.gif
i know we are not in their shoes to know how hard it is to resist the temptation to squeeze all the money you can while you have the opportunity but what the heck  icon_idea.gif
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Or if their international atm cannot cope, then ok put cap BUT lower the damn price. When they can deliver international bandwidth 80% then hike up price.

Not charge us a bomb when they cannot even deliver international bandwidth rolleyes.gif Is this too much to ask for
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Mar 25 2010, 05:20 PM)
Or if their international atm cannot cope, then ok put cap BUT lower the damn price. When they can deliver international bandwidth 80% then hike up price.

Not charge us a bomb when they cannot even deliver international bandwidth  rolleyes.gif  Is this too much to ask for
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i agree, they shouldn't charge their customers premium price for fakap service because we have been through that already. Maybe our loyalty for all these years cause them to "besar kepala" and think they can do whatever they want and still earn our hard earned money. doh.gif
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No, but I can take usage data of 4mbps ADSL users to extrapolate the "needs" of 5mbps HSBB users.

and what's the usage data of 4mbps users? smile.gif I doubt its 60GB a month laugh.gif

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Where I come from, 100+mbps is common, and I am used to such speeds. I find it provides a lot of advantages - when I need a 1GB dataset I can download it in minutes instead of hours. When I want to relax with some video entertainment I never have to wait. But I do not find myself downloading 18TB per day just because I can.

Of course not, but the whole point of having a HSBB is to be able to do things like you just mentioned no? smile.gif

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I have no idea what the purpose of owing a Ferrari is, but I suspect it aligns with the same mentality that says "I have 10mbps so I am damn well going to download at that speed 24/7 just because I can". This is never something I have understood; it all seems sociopathic to me. But I come from a very different cultural background.

Nope, the point of a ferrari is to drive fast in a car made to drive fast. You buy it because you want to enjoy driving with that speed. The same applies to HSBB, what's the point of paying for 5mbps when 90% of the time you're going to be limited to 1mbps because of the cap?

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Ok, we're in basic agreement, it's just a matter of negotiating the levels now.

Like it or not, TM does have limited international bandwidth and it has to be allocated among all the users. The higher the cap, the worse performance low-usage customers will see. So, the higher the cap, the more TM is rewarding the customers who cost them money. There is very little incentive for them to set the cap higher than the lowest level the market will tolerate. We may debate about whether the market will tolerate 60GB@5mbps but I suspect that only time will truly tell.
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Unfortunately the download cap also includes local traffic, which IMO is stupid. I explained earlier that if they didn't count local traffic and gave a BOOST in speed among local peers, then people would subscribe and the people will spread the downloadable content amongst themselves, easing the burden on the international link because local people are providing the content.

Throw up a metro-lan for HSBB, and the need for an international link abuse goes down.
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is the existing packages going to be upgraded free/reduce price?
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Rest of country will have to suffer Streamyx as usual

Those "lucky" ones can get to suffer Unifi

Still expensive.
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http://www.trueonline.com/th/highlight.aspx

4mbps (SLOWEST package, no 384k sorry): RM60

5mbps: RM80

6mbps: RM100

8mbps: RM120

12mbps: RM170

16mbps: RM220

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Form a group in anti-hsbb facebook and invite PM..to express our dissatisfactions..
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Thailand:

http://www.trueonline.com/th/highlight.aspx

4mbps (SLOWEST package, no 384k sorry): RM60

5mbps: RM80

6mbps: RM100

8mbps: RM120

12mbps: RM170

16mbps: RM220
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HSSB??? I actually don't care about it.... because most of the time I'm using it for playing game online(local server) and surfing internet
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I think there is no point debating about the cap for now.

What I concern the most is the stability, latency and the performance of the line.

I want TM to provide at least 80% of the speed of the package purchased at 99.99% of the time, have not more than 200ms ping when connecting to China, and not more than 250ms for site located in US and Europe. Packet loss should be only 0.01% max.

If the quality of the line is still the same as the current Streamyx I might as well stick save the money and stick with current Streamyx.



Edit: Maintain 99.99% up time as well.

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60GB of download for HSBB/Unifi is pure bullshit
if people want to download blueray quality movie, they can only get like what, 3 or 4 movies monthly?
If that is the case might as well stick back to normal streamyx where there is no cap....and its cheaper too.
Also TM should lower the price for streamyx and unifi, please don treat all Malaysians can print $$.

so where is the facebook anti Unifi link? all go join hahaha
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QUOTE(jerrychoo2004 @ Mar 25 2010, 05:56 PM)
60GB of download for HSBB/Unifi is pure bullshit
if people want to download blueray quality movie, they can only get like what, 3 or 4 movies monthly?
If that is the case might as well stick back to normal streamyx where there is no cap....and its cheaper too.
Also TM should lower the price for streamyx and unifi, please don treat all Malaysians can print $$.

so where is the facebook anti Unifi link? all go join hahaha
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1080p mkv movie is around 7-8gB only..
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1080p mkv movie is around 7-8gB only..
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1080p mkv movie is around 7-8gB only..
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Those are BD-rips.
Now that people have the speed, why bother downloading those sub-10GB blu-rays when they can just go full and download 30GB with LPCM audio?

Think la pls.
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bear in mind 1 x hsbb line used by 3-4 person in one house.

few ppl sharing youtube and download would exceed 2GB per day in 1 - 2 hours times

as i doing remote connection and download and upload company data, which really download heavily for photoshop and illustrator, man..i just hope i doesnt get cap from singapore and local content but too bad.

seems i still need to stick back to streamyx and ask singapore ppl send cd to me, forgot to mention i stay at home.

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If all the information is correct, then the worthy part from HSBB isnt the Download speed, but the Upload speed, if any1 noticed all ADSL package have very poor upload speed, mostly 384k, unless SDSL connection with is extremely expensive compare to ADSL, if this HSBB capable of providing promised upload speed, then this connection worth considering for ppl who want upload speed more than download speed, like hosting.
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If all the information is correct, then the worthy part from HSBB isnt the Download speed, but the Upload speed, if any1 noticed all ADSL package have very poor upload speed, mostly 384k, unless SDSL connection with is extremely expensive compare to ADSL, if this HSBB capable of providing promised upload speed, then this connection worth considering for ppl who want upload speed more than download speed, like hosting.
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Upload is really useful to me due to the amount of stuff I have to upload everyday laugh.gif

Still, the cap is ridiculous
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If all the information is correct, then the worthy part from HSBB isnt the Download speed, but the Upload speed, if any1 noticed all ADSL package have very poor upload speed, mostly 384k, unless SDSL connection with is extremely expensive compare to ADSL, if this HSBB capable of providing promised upload speed, then this connection worth considering for ppl who want upload speed more than download speed, like hosting.
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Yeah i noticed this too nod.gif especially since upload has no quota.

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Soon it may become upload/download capped at 60, 90, 120 GB
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Upload is really useful to me due to the amount of stuff I have to upload everyday laugh.gif

Still, the cap is ridiculous
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5M but 60gb/month
go to hell la TM
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guys, u r not even unifi customer so you dont have any right to complain about capping. for average internet user, the quota is more than enough.
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QUOTE(Hamas @ Mar 25 2010, 07:04 PM)
guys, u r not even unifi customer so you dont have any right to complain about capping. for average internet user, the quota is more than enough.
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You're not even their worker , why bother?!

LOL JK , the cap is ridiculous
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QUOTE(Hamas @ Mar 25 2010, 08:04 PM)
guys, u r not even unifi customer so you dont have any right to complain about capping. for average internet user, the quota is more than enough.
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guys, u r not even unifi customer so you dont have any right to complain about capping. for average internet user, the quota is more than enough.
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for AVERANGE INTERNET USE
1M is more than enough for them cool.gif

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I suggest to TM to make additional package for bandwidth..... so for the people usage is very high can subscribe ad on.....TQ
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You're not even their worker , why bother?!

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I suggest to TM to make additional package for bandwidth..... so for the people usage is very high can subscribe ad on.....TQ
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guys, u r not even unifi customer so you dont have any right to complain about capping. for average internet user, the quota is more than enough.
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I'm using 2~3mbps (upgrade unofficially and the port is crazy .. change frequently) .. estimated RM 60 per month (TM staff)

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10800kb/10.8 mb = 1 minute
648mb = 1 hour
15552mb/15.552 GB = 24 hours
466.56 GB = 30 days


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Seconded that.

And the current plan is ridiculous.
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Mar 25 2010, 07:14 PM)
Seconded that.

And the current plan is ridiculous.
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remove cap maybe price package is skyrocket
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I say, keep the cap, but increase it so its more reasonable and follows what a broadband package should be like.


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remove cap maybe price package is skyrocket
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biz5 package RM200 5mb unlimited, they have the capabilities.
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go for 4mb.uncapped and no iptv and ur just lost 1mb only.
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QUOTE(sg999 @ Mar 25 2010, 07:07 PM)

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1M is more than enough for them cool.gif
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Im average internet user, 1Mb/s not enough. Youtube HD also need at least 4Mb/s


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QUOTE(^KamilskaZ^ @ Mar 25 2010, 07:24 PM)
go for 4mb.uncapped and no iptv and ur just lost 1mb only.
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Not really only lose 1 mb/s la. You lose 4.5mb/s upload speed


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QUOTE(^KamilskaZ^ @ Mar 25 2010, 07:24 PM)
go for 4mb.uncapped and no iptv and ur just lost 1mb only.
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yeah hope they don't cap streamyx too cos there are rumors telling that there are probabilities that it might happen doh.gif
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they can't touch streamyx to capped unless there change their agreement
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average internet user need only 1mbps for normal content

what is the point subscribing 5 10 20 mbps for viewing websites and email?

1mbps for viewing websites and email is more than enough!


if consumers were to subscribe 5/10/20mbps, definitely they are power user who need faster speed for multimedia content. Whoever that set that cap must be brainless!
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QUOTE(Hamas @ Mar 25 2010, 07:04 PM)
guys, u r not even unifi customer so you dont have any right to complain about capping. for average internet user, the quota is more than enough.
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QUOTE(chicaman @ Mar 25 2010, 07:29 PM)
average internet user need only 1mbps for normal content

what is the point subscribing 5 10 20 mbps for viewing websites and email?

1mbps for viewing websites and email is more than enough!
if consumers were to subscribe 5/10/20mbps, definitely they are power user who need faster speed for multimedia content. Whoever that set that cap must be brainless!
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QUOTE(N1ck @ Mar 25 2010, 08:24 PM)
Im average internet user, 1Mb/s not enough. Youtube HD also need at least 4Mb/s


Added on March 25, 2010, 7:25 pm

Not really only lose 1 mb/s la. You lose 4.5mb/s upload speed
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u use 5m unifi to c HDVIDEO?
60gb
mana cukup la abang
giv u see VCD quality
cukup la
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they can't touch streamyx to capped unless there change their agreement
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they could and they have amend their agreement from time to time according to their needs.
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please write this on the fan page..

We Would like TM to Uncap the limit/change the limit to per day

if its per day then im sure most ppl can tolerate with that
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If you want them to change, you got to make sure "demands" are reasonable. Then they are more likely to follow the demands.

60GB per day is ridiculous. Unlimited would be nice as well, but I think that would destroy whatever is left of our international line laugh.gif
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why our gorvement so brainless...

spen Billion project .. end up like this. $^#$@^&
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QUOTE(lightonokira @ Mar 25 2010, 07:55 PM)
please write this on the fan page..

We Would like TM to Uncap the limit/change the limit to per day

if its per day then im sure most ppl can tolerate with that
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You mean change it to 60 GB per day or 2 GB per day?
If its 2 GB per day that kinda sucks, cant even download a game.
60 GB per day is too much Id rather them lower prices but of course best if can do both.
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Mar 25 2010, 07:58 PM)
If you want them to change, you got to make sure "demands" are reasonable. Then they are more likely to follow the demands.

60GB per day is ridiculous. Unlimited would be nice as well, but I think that would destroy whatever is left of our international line laugh.gif
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hmm

lets make a poll

well im pretty sure ppl will vote unlimited..

60gb pday is ridiculous?? why so?
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why our gorvement so brainless...

spen Billion project .. end up like this. $^#$@^&
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why our gorvement so brainless...

spen Billion project .. end up like this. $^#$@^&
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QUOTE(lightonokira @ Mar 25 2010, 08:00 PM)
hmm

lets make a poll

well im pretty sure ppl will vote unlimited..

60gb pday is ridiculous?? why so?
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what are you downloading EVERYDAY that would justifiy such a bandwidth usage?

If you unlimited as an option, for sure most people will choose that. Its like I make a poll to price a BMW. I put the poll "RM100". You would choose that option also even though you know its stupid laugh.gif
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still have streamyx up to 4mbps choice which is uncap, so stop being so greedy and angry with unifi just because you can't download illegal movie and games faster
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QUOTE(Hamas @ Mar 25 2010, 08:03 PM)
still have streamyx up to 4mbps choice which is uncap, so stop being so greedy and angry with unifi just because you can't  download illegal movie and games faster
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this guy works with TM, confirm case.

srsly la buddy, the cap is just too low. everyone is ok with the idea of bandwidth capping but currently its TOO LITTLE for the line. If your talking about 512kbps line cap @ 60GB monthly, everyone gonna be happy. But when you talking about 5Mbps cap @ 60GB monthly, thats just plain stupid.


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HSBB too expensive
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60G per month? we are now in TETRA age
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still have streamyx up to 4mbps choice which is uncap, so stop being so greedy and angry with unifi just because you can't  download illegal movie and games faster
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I must say, that if it's true that they are capping at 2GB/day instead of 60GB/month, I don't find that acceptable. There are days when someone might need to do a lot of transferring, and other days when they might not.

Also, it's important to recognize that 60GB/month is NOT the same as 2GB/day. If they are advertising it as 60GB/day but then implementing the limit at 2GB/day, then someone should take them to court, because they lied.

If they are playing fast and loose with the granularity of their usage threshholds, then they might as well say that 2GB/day is a 185kb per second cap. That is, 0.185mbps service.
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QUOTE(Hamas @ Mar 25 2010, 08:03 PM)
still have streamyx up to 4mbps choice which is uncap, so stop being so greedy and angry with unifi just because you can't  download illegal movie and games faster
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its not long before streamyx is cap too just to "encourage" users to upgrade to unifail for higher caps and when that happens we will see who is greedy and angry.

4mb adsl =RM160 "uncap" <-- this is what keeps people paying more eventho 5mb cheaper
5mb fiber =RM149 60gb cap

what happens in this scenario

4mb adsl= RM160 40gb cap
5mb fiber= RM149 60gb cap

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QUOTE(rajulkabir @ Mar 25 2010, 08:10 PM)
I must say, that if it's true that they are capping at 2GB/day instead of 60GB/month, I don't find that acceptable. There are days when someone might need to do a lot of transferring, and other days when they might not.

Also, it's important to recognize that 60GB/month is NOT the same as 2GB/day. If they are advertising it as 60GB/day but then implementing the limit at 2GB/day, then someone should take them to court, because they lied.

If they are playing fast and loose with the granularity of their usage threshholds, then they might as well say that 2GB/day is a 185kb per second cap. That is, 0.185mbps service.
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Which is one reason I'm pissed at it. 60GB a month isn't that bad, though its still quite low. However if its 2GB/day, then its just plain ridiculous. There's absolutely no point in going for HSBB then.


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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Mar 25 2010, 01:28 PM)
This is a ridiculous argument.

The reason HSBB is created is to cater for online content, which includes online HD content, which is not necessarily delivered through your IPTV. So you'll easily hit that 2GB/day limit with 5mbps.  EASILY.

You don't have to be a pirate to hit those rates.
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You tak suka then don't subscribe, as easy as that.............
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You tak suka then don't subscribe, as easy as that.............
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the project is heavy funded by gov but why so expensive?

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The RM11.3 billion project, signed in September 2008, is a public-private partnership agreement between TM and the Malaysian government to develop next generation HSBB infrastructure and services for the nation.

TM is putting up RM8.9 billion while the government is contributing RM2.4 billion on an incurred claims basis based on project milestones reached by TM.

...

According to TM, its total expenditure related to the HSBB project as of Dec 31, 2009 reached RM1.9 billion, which covered last-mile access, Internet Protocol core deployment and capacity expansion for international links.

Total approved claims from the government up to December 2009 stood at RM990 million.

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You tak suka then don't subscribe, as easy as that.............
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anyone send e-mail to tm ask them to see this thread & the fb page ?

i just did, anxiously waiting for them to reply me


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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Mar 25 2010, 08:13 PM)
Which is one reason I'm pissed at it. 60GB a month isn't that bad, though its still quite low. However if its 2GB/day, then its just plain ridiculous. There's absolutely no point in going for HSBB then.
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Which is why I said in the few pages back that the biggest issue isn't the monthly cap, its the DAILY CAP.
God.... 2GB is already little, but what about people who shares connection under 1 roof?

2GB can be gone in less than 30 minutes.
And then that automatically means, WHAT is the damn use of using HSBB when 4mbps streamyx can do nearly the same BUT without capping?

You know how much family/housemates arguments one is gonna get into just because the person's little sister couldn't download her songs when she comes back from school?

Yea, that's pure bull**** there.

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QUOTE(satoshi.mifune @ Mar 25 2010, 08:20 PM)
they say that because they monopoly the market, try saying that when there are 10 other isp providing the same service konpem bankrupt bro  doh.gif
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I don't think any other ISP can afford RM8.9 billion.......... whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif
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I don't think any other ISP can afford  RM8.9 billion.......... whistling.gif  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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tm got fund govermnt,, govermnt take from us lolx!
better we give the hsbb project to others,,
waste our money!
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QUOTE(fuadfadz @ Mar 25 2010, 08:33 PM)
tm got fund govermnt,, govermnt take from us lolx!
better we give the hsbb project to oterhs,,
waste our money!
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Who are the OTHERS? DAP/PKR cronies............. whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif ?


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QUOTE(fuadfadz @ Mar 25 2010, 08:33 PM)
tm got fund govermnt,, govermnt take from us lolx!
better we give the hsbb project to others,,
waste our money!
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The RM11.3 billion project, signed in September 2008, is a public-private partnership agreement between TM and the Malaysian government to develop next generation HSBB infrastructure and services for the nation.

TM is putting up RM8.9 billion while the government is contributing RM2.4 billion on an incurred claims basis based on project milestones reached by TM.

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QUOTE(fuadfadz @ Mar 25 2010, 08:33 PM)
tm got fund govermnt,, govermnt take from us lolx!
better we give the hsbb project to others,,
waste our money!
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base from what?

what do you mean "waste our money"?
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QUOTE(^KamilskaZ^ @ Mar 25 2010, 08:37 PM)
base from what?

what do you mean "waste our money"?
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Added on March 25, 2010, 8:42 pmRm8.9 bil tu pun tak tahu berapa lama nak balik modal........ laugh.gif

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QUOTE(fuadfadz @ Mar 25 2010, 08:33 PM)
tm got fund govermnt,, govermnt take from us lolx!
better we give the hsbb project to others,,
waste our money!
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locally tmnet is the best choice as it's the only choice what they should do is put personal importance regarding the project aside and open up to foreign isp providers to compete with us but that will not likely to happen. icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Mar 25 2010, 08:28 PM)
Which is why I said in the few pages back that the biggest issue isn't the monthly cap, its the DAILY CAP.
God.... 2GB is already little, but what about people who shares connection under 1 roof?

2GB can be gone in less than 30 minutes.
And then that automatically means, WHAT is the damn use of using HSBB when 4mbps streamyx can do nearly the same BUT without capping?

You know how much family/housemates arguments one is gonna get into just because the person's little sister couldn't download her songs when she comes back from school?

Yea, that's pure bull**** there.
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Spot on. The alleged daily cap is extremely ridiculous. I have no problems with the stated monthly cap.

I really hope that it's BS.
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YOu tak suka you boleh keluar............ laugh.gif  whistling.gif
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yeah i wish i own a company like tm, no competition got big bro to watch my back from other isp what more can i say  rclxm9.gif
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Got RM8.9 billion...........? laugh.gif
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Submarine landing rights in bolehland are belongs to TM, awarded to them by BN.
If like that even if a private consortium or companies are to build the international cables which will mean "giving" it to TM automatically. Who wants ?

If I am boss of ISP, just the Penang and Selangor market enough already. No need 1malaysia. The extra billions saved reinvest again for better profits. tongue.gif
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2gb/day cap is just a rumour & u guys r overreacting
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QUOTE(Borsch Soup @ Mar 25 2010, 08:56 PM)
Submarine landing rights in bolehland are belongs to TM, awarded to them by BN.
If like that even if a private consortium or companies are to build the international cables which will mean "giving" it to TM automatically. Who wants ?

If I am boss of ISP, just the Penang and Selangor market enough already. No need 1malaysia. The extra billions saved reinvest again for better profits. tongue.gif
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That's why we need TM. Orang Sik and Baling pun mau guna internet juga. I don't think any private ISP willing to provide their service there..........
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QUOTE(azzrul @ Mar 25 2010, 09:00 PM)
That's why we need TM. Orang Sik and Baling pun mau guna internet juga. I don't think any private ISP willing to provide their service there..........
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Roll out billions just to cover that ulu place. No wonder 1malaysia debt is rm350 billion.

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QUOTE(Borsch Soup @ Mar 25 2010, 09:03 PM)
Roll out billions just to cover that ulu place. No wonder 1malaysia debt is rm350 billion.
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That figure isn't the full of it
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Roll out billions just to cover that ulu place. No wonder 1malaysia debt is rm350 billion.
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Don't be selfish la......ulu people also want to use high speed internet..... whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Maxieos @ Mar 25 2010, 09:05 PM)
That figure isn't the full of it
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You mean more? Double Triple?


QUOTE(azzrul @ Mar 25 2010, 09:06 PM)
Don't be selfish la......ulu people also want to use high speed internet..... whistling.gif  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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UNIFI= UNIFAIL. Sounds like U ni Fail laa. Fail liao. Price fail, cap pun fail, fail fail fail. This is not fiber broadband at all. Like putting 1 litre petrol into Ferrari.


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QUOTE(Hamas @ Mar 25 2010, 08:57 PM)
2gb/day cap is just a rumour & u guys r overreacting
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if it is a rumor then good, but how to explain what is shown here on the right side's Important Notes No. 5? ohmy.gif

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QUOTE(ihawk98 @ Mar 25 2010, 09:08 PM)
if it is a rumor then good, but how to explain what is shown here on the right side's Important Notes No. 5?  ohmy.gif
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Error 404 - Page not found!

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broken link?

edit:
it's working after refreshing

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Submarine landing rights in bolehland are belongs to TM, awarded to them by BN.
If like that even if a private consortium or companies are to build the international cables which will mean "giving" it to TM automatically. Who wants ?

If I am boss of ISP, just the Penang and Selangor market enough already. No need 1malaysia. The extra billions saved reinvest again for better profits. tongue.gif
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You mean more? Double Triple?
UNIFI= UNIFAIL. Sounds like U ni Fail laa. Fail liao. Price fail, cap pun fail, fail fail fail. This is not fiber broadband at all. Like putting 1 litre petrol into Ferrari.
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Then don't subscribe........use P1 la, no cap & very cheap........ thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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if that multi billion go for only 2 state,that's mean corruption
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If only 2 states needed with transparency involved, do you think it will need that much billions? tongue.gif


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Then don't subscribe........use P1 la, no cap & very cheap........ thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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I am, DiGI BB user here. tongue.gif

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if that multi billion go for only 2 state,that's mean corruption
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Biasalah pulau people.............
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sorry this not rwi.i can't entertain this
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Biasalah masuk poket, kerja BN.
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I believe all of us also wonder what a fortune tm and the peoples behind are making drool.gif
ever since the first day you try to get a driving license, you know ' this is our country' drool.gif

if anyone from them try to tell u, is much more expensive to implement at here, try to compare why isp in other contry can make profit by charging such a low price due to their living standard whistling.gif

UK FTTH
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Perfect for multiple users, downloading,
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Up to 50Mb speed
Unlimited1 downloads
Free internet security 2
Free wireless N router3
No need for a BT line
Unlimited4 calls to landlines and Virgin mobiles if you take a Virgin phone line.
New lower price

without a Virgin Phone line
£33 (RM165) a month
for 3 months, £38(RM175) after that

Hong Kong FTTH
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QUOTE(streamyxkl @ Mar 25 2010, 09:25 PM)
I believe all of us also wonder what a fortune tm and the peoples behind are making drool.gif
ever since the first day you try to get a driving license, you know ' this is our country' drool.gif

if anyone from them try to tell u, is much more expensive to implement at here, try to compare why isp in other contry can make profit by charging such a low price due to their living standard whistling.gif

UK FTTH
Up to 50Mb broadband
Perfect for multiple users, downloading,
streaming and gaming. Find out more>

Up to 50Mb speed
Unlimited1 downloads
Free internet security 2
Free wireless N router3
No need for a BT line
Unlimited4 calls to landlines and Virgin mobiles if you take a Virgin phone line.
New lower price

without a Virgin Phone line
£33 (RM165) a month
for 3 months, £38(RM175) after that

Hong Kong FTTH
99HKD/ 100mbps
http://99bb100.hkbn.net/index.php
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Let's move to UK.............. thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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if u have 1gbps line also..but kena capped..no use also..puiiii
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QUOTE(Aggroboy @ Mar 25 2010, 01:23 PM)
See how many p2p/filesharing pirates complain here laugh.gif they are the only ones who will hit the cap.
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QUOTE(lordc4an @ Mar 25 2010, 09:40 PM)
if u have 1gbps line also..but kena capped..no use also..puiiii
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nonid la bro..my 4mbps also ADSL 1 hari almost 20times DSL out of Sync..
streamyx alsooo not stableee...now out HSBB ..aghh
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Use corporate package la......unlimited bandwidth laugh.gif
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Who's the smart mod that went and merge the boycott topic with this one? The two topics are of an entirely different nature.


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QUOTE(Hamas @ Mar 25 2010, 08:57 PM)
2gb/day cap is just a rumour & u guys r overreacting
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Quite possibly. This is a result of TM's failure to clearly and promptly inform the public about their offering.

On the other hand, maybe it's a plot: Spread a rumor about 2GB daily cap. When people learn that rumor was false, and it's really just 60GB monthly cap, they will be so relieved they will stop complaining.
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2GB daily cap and 60GB monthly cap, what's the different? Eventually you'll only have 60GB, same shit.
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2GB daily cap and 60GB monthly cap, what's the different? Eventually you'll only have 60GB, same shit.
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I am not a 24/7 downloader. Just a normal user. My usage patterns are variable, depending on what I am doing. Some days I have to download large files, other days I am outside having fun.

So for me, the difference is that I would often bump into a 2GB daily cap, but I would never bump into a 60GB monthly cap.
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No need move to UK, change to new Government and see the result. Don't let them keep on monopoly all the public utility. Why sponsor F1 ... better use that to reduce the bundle off RAKYAT.
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I will move to UK but not now. smile.gif Try to change the gov by bodek them of our technology currently is wayyy behind than other countries.
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Let's move to UK.............. thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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they are trying to introduce a 3 strike rule over there ;_;

on the other hand, the UK was voted best country for foreigners to fit into.

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they are trying to introduce a 3 strike rule over there ;_;

on the other hand, the UK was voted best country for foreigners to fit into.
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my 1mb connection.....only play games few times a week....few anime 3-5 every week ....size around 80-90mb per anime......24/7 facebook(game)/ surf web.....33 days i already reach 7x gb download ....thats me only....i haven't include my other family.....

i dont torrent btw....totally no p2p

60gb = =" hell no

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Guys don't just complaint, MAKE SURE YOU COMPLAINT THE RIGHT THING.

Asking for unlimited bandwidth is IMPOSSIBLE.
TM won't let you D/U 6TB of data for RM249.

Instead, ask them at least double or triple the cap

Crap:

60GB
90GB
120GB

MORE REALISTIC:
120GB
200GB
300GB

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QUOTE(jieming @ Mar 26 2010, 01:37 AM)
Guys don't just complaint, MAKE SURE YOU COMPLAINT THE RIGHT THING.

Asking for unlimited bandwidth is IMPOSSIBLE.
TM won't let you D/U 6TB of data for RM249.

Instead, ask them at least double or triple the cap

Crap:

60GB
90GB
120GB

MORE REALISTIC:
120GB
200GB
300GB
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Clearly TM thought about it but then they decided lets lower it to say, half the "realistic amount" so they can save even more money. clearly their research investment is "well spent". Now people don't even wanna go near unifail, congratulations.

I'm definitely foreseeing streamyx going to get an even crappier cap compared with unifail in order for people to considered unifail. Push comes to shove people don't have choice but to pay, use and like it.

Lets just see how this is gonna play out.
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QUOTE(HiT-AbLe @ Mar 25 2010, 01:19 PM)
U guys still remember when TMnut first launched the 4MB and price at RM268(somewhere around that price range), and nobody bothers to subscribe it so ended up they forced to launch the RM160 combo deal for 4MB.

So please don't subscribe the Unifail eventhough they provide free installation.
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Who's the smart mod that went and merge the boycott topic with this one? The two topics are of an entirely different nature.
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Sorry guys, the topics were merged (?!?!) by a moderator who isn't dedicated to this part of the forum, reckon he was acting hastily on a redundant thread report. I've split them again but it's probably not exactly the same as before.
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QUOTE(jieming @ Mar 26 2010, 01:37 AM)
Instead, ask them at least double or triple the cap
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Since when they listen to the Rakyat?
They are all ready laughing all the way to the bank!
QUOTE(raist86 @ Mar 26 2010, 08:05 AM)
First was their advertising in newspapers which look like an Ad for U mobile (ytl must be happy that TM is doing them free ad campaign) and now this? stupid pricing and stupid bandwidth cap. Whoever that's running their marketing strategy should find new jobs or go home and sleep.

Smells like a scam to me.. Gov gave them a couple billion to lay the lines and they purposely make the package so that no one wants to sign up. In the end, they benefit cos less subscriber to deal with, less cost for them (don't need to connect the last mile fiber to subscriber's house and less equipment to buy) but still able to get the gov's money. What a nice way of earning money..

We should start a company also.. call it LYNet. Den we propose to government that we'll supply the latest tech in broadband and once we have the money, create a few package which is ridiculously priced so that no one will subscribe.. Free money and don't need to do work also. smile.gif
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I have always been skeptical when our beloved country carries out a plan that is probably beyond their intellect scope to handle in the long run.

sadly its also part of a giant foreign telco that is assisting.

it smelt and felt like a scam from the start, billions of taxpayers money to give us back a so-called high speed to the world while restricting you to the point of price and information/content you can have.

we all know for sure some of it goes into a few well known cronies pockets and at the end of it, the consumers will have to swallow it and accept whatever is chuck in our faces hence the continuous monopoly of our ISP in Malaysia.

wait for it my fellow Malaysians that the current Screamyx services will be increased in speed but will receive a 30GB cap to ensure we have to swallow a 60GB cap because they know for sure they can do it and with the higher cronies backing.
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Consumers let down by cap on UniFi packages
By JO TIMBUONG

intech@thestar.com.my

PETALING JAYA: After the excitement of Telekom Malaysia unveiling UniFi, its high-speed broadband service that offers Internet speeds of up to 20 megabits per second (Mbps), the bubble burst for many consumers here.

Some are disappointed over what they feel are expensive charges for the packages for home users: RM149 for 5Mbps, RM199 for 10Mbps, and RM249 for 20Mbps.

In Singapore, a 1Gbps (gigabit per second) service – which is five times the speed of a 20Mbps connection – only costs about RM200.

But the real disappointment is the realisation that the UniFi packages have a cap on the amount of data that can be downloaded.

The consumers bristled when they learned that the 5Mbps service is capped at 60GB of data per month. The 10Mbps service is capped at 90GB while the 20Mbps service has a 120GB cap.

They were even more disappointed to learn that the data download caps are calculated on a daily basis.

Consumers were further horrified to learn that if they exceeded their daily download limit, their high-speed broadband connections would be throttled down to about 10% of the purchased speed.

Telekom Malaysia CEO Datuk Zamzamzairani Mohd Isa said at a press conference to announce the UniFi pricing yesterday that the measures were part of its Fair Usage Policy.

“This policy is a standard industry practice to ensure that all subscribers get to enjoy the same web surfing quality,” he said.

Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak launched UniFi at the Dataran Merdeka in Kuala Lumpur on Wednesday night.
WTF!!!
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Hahahahha kekekeke. Daily basis? WTF then pay monthly fee for?
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QUOTE(jieming @ Mar 26 2010, 01:37 AM)
Guys don't just complaint, MAKE SURE YOU COMPLAINT THE RIGHT THING.

Asking for unlimited bandwidth is IMPOSSIBLE.
TM won't let you D/U 6TB of data for RM249.

Instead, ask them at least double or triple the cap

Crap:

60GB
90GB
120GB

MORE REALISTIC:
120GB
200GB
300GB

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Yes i could live with those suggested caps.

But.... imho increase the daily cap or remove altogether imho...

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Yeap DAILY, you are capped 2gb download.... thats the most stupidest thing they trying to apply here... smile.gif
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QUOTE(wKkaY @ Mar 26 2010, 07:50 AM)
Sorry guys, the topics were merged (?!?!) by a moderator who isn't dedicated to this part of the forum, reckon he was acting hastily on a redundant thread report. I've split them again but it's probably not exactly the same as before.
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Who's the smart mod that went and merge the boycott topic with this one? The two topics are of an entirely different nature.
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To answer your query, the topic was merged because there's an earlier topic on "Rants" created by Roxygal:
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This is the future post for people to rant,complain and share about unifi service only

People that using unifi can post in here


And since this topic was created later in regards to "rants" also although of different nature (capping vs slowness/connectivity); I decided to merge it together.

Maybe it's my mistake for doing that, but I see too many similar topics around (was clearing couple topics in regards to HSBB). Anyway, thanks to wKkay who rectified the situation.

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QUOTE(b00n @ Mar 26 2010, 09:59 AM)
To answer your query, the topic was merged because there's an earlier topic on "Rants" created by Roxygal:
And since this topic was created later in regards to "rants" also although of different nature (capping vs slowness/connectivity); I decided to merge it together.

Maybe it's my mistake for doing that, but I see too many similar topics around (was clearing couple topics in regards to HSBB). Anyway, thanks to wKkay who rectified the situation.
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HSBB UNIFAIL

Price check FAIL

Cap check FAIL

Daily basis cap 2GB check WTF???!!! FAIL

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Msybe we can organize protest at Telekom...all wear Red shirt...like Thailand...haha...but sure will kena ISA nanti....gulp...
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QUOTE(Borsch Soup @ Mar 26 2010, 10:07 AM)
HSBB UNIFAIL

Price check FAIL

Cap check FAIL

Daily basis cap 2GB check WTF???!!! FAIL
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WAT ? u sure they implement daily capping?
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Mar 26 2010, 10:07 AM)
Msybe we can organize protest at Telekom...all wear Red shirt...like Thailand...haha...but sure will kena ISA nanti....gulp...
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Suicide bomber best thumbup.gif Tm sure shiat brix


QUOTE(milky @ Mar 26 2010, 10:09 AM)
WAT ? u sure they implement daily capping?
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Refer previous page pls.
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QUOTE(Borsch Soup @ Mar 26 2010, 10:10 AM)
Suicide bomber best thumbup.gif Tm sure shiat brix
Refer previous page pls.
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Ok u volunteer first...LOL.
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Mar 26 2010, 10:07 AM)
Msybe we can organize protest at Telekom...all wear Red shirt...like Thailand...haha...but sure will kena ISA nanti....gulp...
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You get tossed into jail under isa for that i hear shakehead.gif

I rather just protest via lowyat nod.gif


QUOTE(Borsch Soup @ Mar 26 2010, 10:10 AM)
Suicide bomber best thumbup.gif Tm sure shiat brix
Refer previous page pls.
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Lol laugh.gif i feel like this sometimes .... but i never carry it out sweat.gif Even if it was done, i am sure it would be covered up to look as if it never happened.

Mongolian women blew to bits, never happened gasp ohmy.gif

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Ok u volunteer first...LOL.
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since TM people is noob and dont surf lowyat, they wont know our situation. hence, to make them know about our feedbacks and situations and rants, why not sned emails/letters/feedbacks to them? so they will re-justify the price and caps.
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We're in newspaper today

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Ayam kambing, Tm better watch out. AaaaaaaHHH. LOLZ
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The Star also highlight the capped issue:

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...0663&sec=nation


PETALING JAYA: After the excitement of Telekom Malaysia unveiling UniFi, its high-speed broadband service that offers Internet speeds of up to 20 megabits per second (Mbps), the bubble burst for many consumers here.

Some are disappointed over what they feel are expensive charges for the packages for home users: RM149 for 5Mbps, RM199 for 10Mbps, and RM249 for 20Mbps.

In Singapore, a 1Gbps (gigabit per second) service – which is five times the speed of a 20Mbps connection – only costs about RM200.

But the real disappointment is the realisation that the UniFi packages have a cap on the amount of data that can be downloaded.

The consumers bristled when they learned that the 5Mbps service is capped at 60GB of data per month. The 10Mbps service is capped at 90GB while the 20Mbps service has a 120GB cap.

They were even more disappointed to learn that the data download caps are calculated on a daily basis.

Consumers were further horrified to learn that if they exceeded their daily download limit, their high-speed broadband connections would be throttled down to about 10% of the purchased speed.

Telekom Malaysia CEO Datuk Zamzamzairani Mohd Isa said at a press conference to announce the UniFi pricing yesterday that the measures were part of its Fair Usage Policy.

“This policy is a standard industry practice to ensure that all subscribers get to enjoy the same web surfing quality,” he said.

Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak launched UniFi at the Dataran Merdeka in Kuala Lumpur on Wednesday night.
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The Star also highlight the capped issue:

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...0663&sec=nation
PETALING JAYA: After the excitement of Telekom Malaysia unveiling UniFi, its high-speed broadband service that offers Internet speeds of up to 20 megabits per second (Mbps), the bubble burst for many consumers here.

Some are disappointed over what they feel are expensive charges for the packages for home users:

RM149 for 5Mbps

RM199 for 10Mbps

RM249 for 20Mbps.




In Singapore, a 1Gbps (gigabit per second) service – which is five times the speed of a 20Mbps connection – only costs about RM200.

But the real disappointment is the realisation that the UniFi packages have a cap on the amount of data that can be downloaded.

The consumers bristled when they learned that the 5Mbps service is capped at 60GB of data per month. The 10Mbps service is capped at 90GB while the 20Mbps service has a 120GB cap.

They were even more disappointed to learn that the data download caps are calculated on a daily basis.

Consumers were further horrified to learn that if they exceeded their daily download limit, their high-speed broadband connections would be throttled down to about 10% of the purchased speed.


Telekom Malaysia CEO Datuk Zamzamzairani Mohd Isa said at a press conference to announce the UniFi pricing yesterday that the measures were part of its Fair Usage Policy.

“This policy is a standard industry practice to ensure that all subscribers get to enjoy the same web surfing quality,” he said.

Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak launched UniFi at the Dataran Merdeka in Kuala Lumpur on Wednesday night.
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That sums it all up....

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everybody not happy with tmnut unifi should just boycott it. they will be forced to revise their prices and cap. what do you expect from a glc runned by corrupt cronies?
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GOOD. At least some newspaper guys are listening around.. I believe their words with reach those in power faster than US.

Unless will start boycotting in front of TM building.

Seems almost half of current money to implement this come from taxpayer money, I really believe they should lower the price.

Really disappointed to introduce new service without any price cut. TALK like they gonna decreased broadband about 50% BUT it's nothing.

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No need move to UK, change to new Government and see the result. Don't let them keep on monopoly all the public utility. Why sponsor F1 ... better use that to reduce the bundle off RAKYAT.
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Change to which government?

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Change to which government?
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what makes u think changing gov will change TM package prices ..
im boycotting with or without caps since it's expensive..
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I can accept a monthly capped but calculated on a daily basis ???? TM GTFO!!! screw U
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QUOTE(TimKen @ Mar 26 2010, 11:10 AM)
I can accept a monthly capped but calculated on a daily basis ???? TM GTFO!!! screw U
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Daily basis...LOL. 60GB/30 days= 2GB/day??? WTF..... doh.gif
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Daily basis...LOL. 60GB/30 days= 2GB/day??? WTF..... doh.gif
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QUOTE(nwk @ Mar 26 2010, 11:24 AM)
next month we can see in the newspaper that tmnut unifi has closed shop because got no customers!  whistling.gif
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Won't close shop... if no business.. Gov will step in and `force` their ministries, companies and ppl to take up the package
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QUOTE(liquidsny @ Mar 26 2010, 11:05 AM)
what makes u think changing gov will change TM package prices ..
im boycotting with or without caps since it's expensive..
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Dengar cerita kalau Anwar jadi PM, 100Mbps RM10 je sebulan.....no bandwidth cap watosever.......gogogo Anwat drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif
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what makes u think changing gov will change TM package prices ..


People always think the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence.. until they get there. That's why smile.gif


Added on March 26, 2010, 11:29 am
QUOTE(altimi @ Mar 26 2010, 11:26 AM)
Dengar cerita kalau Anwar jadi PM, 100Mbps RM10 je sebulan.....no bandwidth cap watosever.......gogogo Anwat     drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif
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No we will have free Internet. I'm dying for them to take over, I'd love to have free Internet.


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QUOTE(wodenus @ Mar 26 2010, 11:27 AM)
People always think the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence.. until they get there. That's why smile.gif


Added on March 26, 2010, 11:29 am

No we will have free Internet. I'm dying for them to take over, I bet salaries will collapse as more and more people become jobless because you can't compete with free.
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2gb daily cap is ALOT worse than a 60gb monthly cap.

imagine you are not using you internet connection for a week. so thats 14gb "lost" liao. WTF??!?

might as well subscribe to the older 4mb package since TM lowered the price to RM140 liao (according to TheStar), provided they did not cap that package lah...
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QUOTE(altimi @ Mar 26 2010, 11:31 AM)
If PR takeover sure fuel is cheap, health services is free, no more tax on cars, free education................bla bla bla  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif
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No gas will be free. Everything will be free.


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It well get cheaper over time, for sure. Just like astro.............
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QUOTE(wodenus @ Mar 26 2010, 11:27 AM)
People always think the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence.. until they get there. That's why smile.gif


Added on March 26, 2010, 11:29 am

No we will have free Internet. I'm dying for them to take over, I'd love to have free Internet.
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But we haven't get to the other side now, have we? And u still want to stay on the same proven failure side for 50 years??
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QUOTE(altimi @ Mar 26 2010, 11:37 AM)
It well get cheaper over time, for sure. Just like astro.............
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QUOTE(altimi @ Mar 26 2010, 11:37 AM)
It well get cheaper over time, for sure. Just like astro.............
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Astro where got cheaper...the price is rising under the pretext of giving you more channels in the packages....shitty channels nobody wants to watch, together with 1 hot channel.

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It well get cheaper over time, for sure. Just like astro.............
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But we haven't get to the other side now, have we? And u still want to stay on the same proven failure side for 50 years??
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Astro where got cheaper...the price is rising under the pretext of giving you more channels in the packages....shitty channels nobody wants to watch, together with 1 hot channel.
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yup.

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QUOTE(teelim @ Mar 26 2010, 11:32 AM)
2gb daily cap is ALOT worse than a 60gb monthly cap.

imagine you are not using you internet connection for a week. so thats 14gb "lost" liao. WTF??!?

might as well subscribe to the older 4mb package since TM lowered the price to RM140 liao (according to TheStar), provided they did not cap that package lah...
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Link plz... coz i can't find it in the star website tongue.gif
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But we haven't get to the other side now, have we? And u still want to stay on the same proven failure side for 50 years??
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That's why we have to support PAS.......PAS is all for charity govt...... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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But we haven't get to the other side now, have we? And u still want to stay on the same proven failure side for 50 years??
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Sorry, but PKR is already a proven failure... 916 anyone lol smile.gif

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Link plz... coz i can't find it in the star website tongue.gif
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here
http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...06&sec=business

but their website not updated (as expected) sweat.gif
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QUOTE(altimi @ Mar 26 2010, 11:26 AM)
Dengar cerita kalau Anwar jadi PM, 100Mbps RM10 je sebulan.....no bandwidth cap watosever.......gogogo Anwat    drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif
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QUOTE(altimi @ Mar 26 2010, 11:31 AM)
If PR takeover sure fuel is cheap, health services is free, no more tax on cars, free education................bla bla bla  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif
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QUOTE(altimi @ Mar 26 2010, 11:44 AM)
That's why we have to support PAS.......PAS is all for charity govt...... rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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please dont bring politics in here... smile.gif
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Mar 26 2010, 11:41 AM)
Astro where got cheaper...the price is rising under the pretext of giving you more channels in the packages....shitty channels nobody wants to watch, together with 1 hot channel.
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Ye ke? unsure.gif unsure.gif unsure.gif .........sorry I'm not Astro subscriber.......
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QUOTE(altimi @ Mar 26 2010, 11:44 AM)
That's why we have to support PAS.......PAS is all for charity govt...... rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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Actually, they might declare it haram don't you think? or maybe censor all pix and videos in which aurat tak ditutup.

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Mar 26 2010, 11:44 AM)
Sorry, but PKR is already a proven failure... 916 anyone lol smile.gif
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That wasn't a failure. In fact, it shows that was real fear in the BN-UMNO gov. They sent boatload of MPs to Taiwan on the pretext of tengok penternakan babi there...during Ramaddan month?? LOL.

Sure, they've failed to take over the goverment, but that doesn't mean they're a failure. Selangor has proven to be cool and so is Penang. rclxms.gif

There's always next GE. rclxms.gif

Anyway, we should refrain from toking too much politics in this thread.

Back to topic.
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It's good this merged thread is going strong.
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i strongly believe that all this strong reactions against TM HSBB pricing/plans are because of poor current streamyx connection
and also didnt help to know that with this new HSBB ,customer still have to pay more for a slightly better or should i say worse deal...

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Upgrade status : Your application is now being processed.

Current Streamyx Package : Streamyx Basic 1.0M (without modem) - RM88 Waive RM75
New Streamyx Package : Streamyx 4.0M (Free Modem) - RM140 (Blockbuster Deals) (Upgrade)
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QUOTE(altimi @ Mar 26 2010, 11:48 AM)
Ye ke? unsure.gif  unsure.gif  unsure.gif .........sorry I'm not Astro subscriber.......
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QUOTE(b00n @ Mar 26 2010, 09:59 AM)
To answer your query, the topic was merged because there's an earlier topic on "Rants" created by Roxygal:
And since this topic was created later in regards to "rants" also although of different nature (capping vs slowness/connectivity); I decided to merge it together.

Maybe it's my mistake for doing that, but I see too many similar topics around (was clearing couple topics in regards to HSBB). Anyway, thanks to wKkay who rectified the situation.
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No prob mate smile.gif

Thx to wkkay for clearing it up as well. Splitting up a merge topic isn't easy normally laugh.gif Appreciate the effort.


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QUOTE(Matrix @ Mar 26 2010, 10:23 AM)
The Star also highlight the capped issue:

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...0663&sec=nation
PETALING JAYA: After the excitement of Telekom Malaysia unveiling UniFi, its high-speed broadband service that offers Internet speeds of up to 20 megabits per second (Mbps), the bubble burst for many consumers here.

Some are disappointed over what they feel are expensive charges for the packages for home users: RM149 for 5Mbps, RM199 for 10Mbps, and RM249 for 20Mbps.

In Singapore, a 1Gbps (gigabit per second) service – which is five times the speed of a 20Mbps connection – only costs about RM200.

But the real disappointment is the realisation that the UniFi packages have a cap on the amount of data that can be downloaded.

The consumers bristled when they learned that the 5Mbps service is capped at 60GB of data per month. The 10Mbps service is capped at 90GB while the 20Mbps service has a 120GB cap.

They were even more disappointed to learn that the data download caps are calculated on a daily basis.

Consumers were further horrified to learn that if they exceeded their daily download limit, their high-speed broadband connections would be throttled down to about 10% of the purchased speed.

Telekom Malaysia CEO Datuk Zamzamzairani Mohd Isa said at a press conference to announce the UniFi pricing yesterday that the measures were part of its Fair Usage Policy.

“This policy is a standard industry practice to ensure that all subscribers get to enjoy the same web surfing quality,” he said.

Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak launched UniFi at the Dataran Merdeka in Kuala Lumpur on Wednesday night.
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Looks like our facebook page had some effect biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(jasonbourne222 @ Mar 25 2010, 01:10 PM)
hmm, well its reasonable...plus there is no such thing as UNLIMITED bandwith...u go to aussie, uk same thing...the services they provide are all capped...but the difference is the PRICE!! now thats important..
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i agree.... cap is not the issue.... the real issue is price... i though our pm says its rm20 permonth
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Upgrade status :   Your application is now being processed.

Current Streamyx Package :   Streamyx Basic 1.0M (without modem) - RM88 Waive RM75  
New Streamyx Package :  Streamyx 4.0M (Free Modem) - RM140 (Blockbuster Deals) (Upgrade)
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QUOTE(adliazaddin @ Mar 26 2010, 12:14 PM)
i agree.... cap is not the issue.... the real issue is price... i though our pm says its rm20 permonth
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if pm say rm20 per month, why that corrupt tmnut ceo say rm149 per month minumum? pm words don't mean anything is it?

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QUOTE(adliazaddin @ Mar 26 2010, 12:14 PM)
i agree.... cap is not the issue.... the real issue is price... i though our pm says its rm20 permonth
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cap IS an issue. 60gb is calculated based on 2gb/day x 30days. So if you don't use it for some time, then your daily cap is "wasted"

Price is considered "affordable" you you compare with existing streamyx packages. I am not saying that I am totally satisfied with the pricing (who does not want to pay less) but I think is not as big an issue as the CAP.
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dont mind the monthly cap ... but i tak puas hati on the daily cap~
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re-post from /k/ to get more serious answers:

Kalau stimix pun kene cap ? downloaders amacam ?
lol, waiting for the announcement soon.
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Which is why I take the Combo package 384kbps + free telephone calls for only RM70. The lowest package of is always the best one because it is the closest you can get FULL speed on what u pay for all the time.
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QUOTE(Eoma @ Mar 26 2010, 12:43 PM)
re-post from /k/ to get more serious answers:

Kalau stimix pun kene cap ? downloaders amacam ?
lol, waiting for the announcement soon.
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then all internet users in m'sia are screwed. main reason ppl stay with tmnut is bcoz previously no cap. Now if Steamy-x oso got cap, then users will migrate to any ISP with cheaper price or higher cap (since all oso got cap now)

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Ok latest info from TMNut

LATEST: NO volume cap 4 all unifi packages 4 now.Decision due to public feedback.TMwill only monitor usage pattern 4 time being
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QUOTE(MX510 @ Mar 26 2010, 01:04 PM)
Ok latest info from TMNut

LATEST: NO volume cap 4 all unifi packages 4 now.Decision due to public feedback.TMwill only monitor usage pattern 4 time being
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link to sos?
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QUOTE(MX510 @ Mar 26 2010, 01:04 PM)
Ok latest info from TMNut

LATEST: NO volume cap 4 all unifi packages 4 now.Decision due to public feedback.TMwill only monitor usage pattern 4 time being
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No CAP until whole Malaysia got Unifi... sounds good? brows.gif
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Ok latest info from TMNut

LATEST: NO volume cap 4 all unifi packages 4 now.Decision due to public feedback.TMwill only monitor usage pattern 4 time being
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really? where's the source?
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QUOTE(ericpires @ Mar 26 2010, 01:08 PM)
No CAP until whole Malaysia got Unifi... sounds good?  brows.gif
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This is getting dumber as time goes by.

Monthly cap.......I'm OK with that.

Daily cap..........NO.

Daily cap that got deducted even when I am not using the line.........HELL NO.

Daily cap that got deducted even when I am not using the line + high price.............. F*** YOU.

It seems TM is working harder to come up with T&C that piss off its customers than T&C that pleases its customers.
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QUOTE(MX510 @ Mar 26 2010, 01:04 PM)
Ok latest info from TMNut

LATEST: NO volume cap 4 all unifi packages 4 now.Decision due to public feedback.TMwill only monitor usage pattern 4 time being
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care to share your source of information? HSBB/UniFi SOC call center? email? news? etc
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QUOTE(MX510 @ Mar 26 2010, 01:04 PM)
Ok latest info from TMNut

LATEST: NO volume cap 4 all unifi packages 4 now.Decision due to public feedback.TMwill only monitor usage pattern 4 time being
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No more caps according this article.

TMnut officials read Lowyat I guess. Remember to rant like hell to get what packages we reasonably deserve.

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No more caps according this articlearticle.

TMnut officials read Lowyat I guess. Remember to rant like hell to get what packages we reasonably deserve.
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Join the boycott on the facebook page, which is more likely how the word got out
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It was already mentioned on the official HSBB thread that UniFi will not be capping until much later during the year or next year, during this period they'll be doing "monitoring of bandwidth usage" only.
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It was already mentioned on the official HSBB thread that UniFi will not be capping until much later during the year or next year, during this period they'll be doing "monitoring of bandwidth usage" only.
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That's still stupid, they hook you in on a 2 year contract, then they can cap you however you want and you can't do shit? We rather they make a commitment now so we know what we're going to be paying for the next 2 years
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They wanna lure customer to subscribe first at the first place without any capping quota. Later on they will implement back the quota usage, and customer can't do anything since you're tide with this contract for 2 years.

Great move from TM
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QUOTE(MX510 @ Mar 26 2010, 01:04 PM)
Ok latest info from TMNut

LATEST: NO volume cap 4 all unifi packages 4 now.Decision due to public feedback.TMwill only monitor usage pattern 4 time being
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only monitor usage pattern for time being? rclxub.gif
You believe ah? It is already in their T&C for the F-up. Tutup satu mata? I dun think so!
Bolehland have many cakap tak serupa bikin.
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Marketing Strategy lol!
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Since they said, will monitor usage pattern for time being.
That's already having same intention of putting back capping quota.
No doubt

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That's still stupid, they hook you in on a 2 year contract, then they can cap you however you want and you can't do shit? We rather they make a commitment now so we know what we're going to be paying for the next 2 years
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Haha. Very wise words. All doubts aside regarding how they actually monitor the usage *cough*, a two years contract is simply ridiculous especially at this point where they cannot give us a definite confirmation.
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Unifi Sales must be very low atm, hence the No Cap for the 'moment' strategy
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Unifi Sales must be very low atm, hence the No Cap for the 'moment' strategy
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Cap or no cap, there is 2 years bonded contract. Once signed on the 'X', if they cap.. then???
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hmm.. i heard from the interview they did in the event.. over limit cap ur connection become like 10% of the original speed..
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hmm.. i heard from the interview they did in the event.. over limit cap ur connection become like 10% of the original speed..
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That's already old news by now.
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QUOTE(Enigmatic @ Mar 26 2010, 01:20 PM)
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It was already mentioned on the official HSBB thread that UniFi will not be capping until much later during the year or next year, during this period they'll be doing "monitoring of bandwidth usage" only.
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Sauce?

I still see the big 60GB logo there.
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After u all signup, they will activate the `CAP switch`... too bad we don't have a Kill switch... hehehe tongue.gif
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Cap or no cap, there is 2 years bonded contract.  Once signed on the 'X', if they cap.. then???
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Mar 26 2010, 02:08 PM)
Sauce?

I still see the big 60GB logo there.
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They don't have the intention to remove the cap. biggrin.gif Just to monitor, and with any luck, hopefully they'll revise the cap. It's actually mentioned when people emailed TM/Unifi about it.

One of the examples:
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=32723414
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Mar 26 2010, 02:12 PM)
which is why we need them to promise, commit and deliver instead of giving ambiguous answers n not keeping to promises
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Becareful people!!! i think we can take this to tribunal court!!!

Look at their T&C!!!!

http://www.tm.com.my/sitemap/Pages/Terms.aspx

ACCEPTANCE OF TERMS - GENERAL
1.1. The use of TM Website is subject to the terms and conditions (“T&C”) provided herein. By accessing and using TM Website you agree to be bound by this T&C and any modifications and amendments, which may be posted by TM on TM Website from time to time.
1.2 You agree that TM may modify and amend this T&C at any time without notice. Unless explicitly stated otherwise, any new service introduced by TM, shall be subject to this T&C. All such notices are hereby incorporated by reference into the T&C. You are responsible for regularly reviewing TM’s T&C posted on TM Website. By continuing to use TM Website, you are deemed to have agreed to be bound by any modifications and amendments to this T&C.
1.3 You can access TM Website home page and browse the Website without disclosing your personal data. The service and links of the TM Website may include links to third party websites and are subject to Section 7 herein.
1.4 Owing to the global nature of the Internet infrastructure, the information you provide may be transferred in transit to countries that do not have similar protection regarding your data and it’s use as set out in this terms and conditions. By submitting your information you consent to these transfers.
1.5 "You" shall mean any user of TM Website.
1.6 “TM” shall mean Telekom Malaysia Berhad and “TM Group” shall mean any subsidiary and affiliate companies of Telekom Malaysia Berhad.
1.7 “TM Service” shall mean the telecommunications and multimedia services and products provided and made available to you by TM Group.
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WAHHHHH!!! Like that also can!! They can amend the T&C anytime whether u like it or not!! Then what's the point of a T&C?? No need lar. Just say you cakap saja. Whatever TM said is da law!!!

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keep on boycotting guys..this no cap only for marketing strategy..after they got enough subscriber they will implemented it back
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Becareful people!!! i think we can take this to tribunal court!!!

Look at their T&C!!!!

http://www.tm.com.my/sitemap/Pages/Terms.aspx

ACCEPTANCE OF TERMS - GENERAL
1.1. The use of TM Website is subject to the terms and conditions (“T&C”) provided herein. By accessing and using TM Website you agree to be bound by this T&C and any modifications and amendments, which may be posted by TM on TM Website from time to time. 
1.2 You agree that TM may modify and amend this T&C at any time without notice. Unless explicitly stated otherwise, any new service introduced by TM, shall be subject to this T&C. All such notices are hereby incorporated by reference into the T&C. You are responsible for regularly reviewing TM’s T&C posted on TM Website. By continuing to use TM Website, you are deemed to have agreed to be bound by any modifications and amendments to this T&C.
1.3 You can access TM Website home page and browse the Website without disclosing your personal data. The service and links of the TM Website may include links to third party websites and are subject to Section 7 herein.
1.4 Owing to the global nature of the Internet infrastructure, the information you provide may be transferred in transit to countries that do not have similar protection regarding your data and it’s use as set out in this terms and conditions. By submitting your information you consent to these transfers.
1.5 "You" shall mean any user of TM Website. 
1.6 “TM” shall mean Telekom Malaysia Berhad and “TM Group” shall mean any subsidiary and affiliate companies of Telekom Malaysia Berhad. 
1.7 “TM Service” shall mean the telecommunications and multimedia services and products provided and made available to you by TM Group.
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WAHHHHH!!! Like that also can!! They can amend the T&C anytime whether u like it or not!! Then what's the point of a T&C?? No need lar. Just say you cakap saja. Whatever TM said is da law!!!

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that is normal for most t&c but if tmnet changes the terms i would like to see them renegotiate my contract or lwt me keep the contract i signed not affected by the new changes.

it is afterall a CONTRACT n should b treated as such

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mayb u shld include cheaper price in boycott. cheaper as in cheaper bcoz it's expensive... not bcoz of the capped thing...
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Support Time fibre broadband, hope they're expanding.  ohmy.gif
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TM , you make malaysia a laughing stock to our neighbour country by your debut Unifail , contradict with all the said to be

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no caps for Unifi pls
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Mar 26 2010, 05:16 PM)
Becareful people!!! i think we can take this to tribunal court!!!

Look at their T&C!!!!

http://www.tm.com.my/sitemap/Pages/Terms.aspx

WAHHHHH!!! Like that also can!! They can amend the T&C anytime whether u like it or not!! Then what's the point of a T&C?? No need lar. Just say you cakap saja. Whatever TM said is da law!!!

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Hello, knee jerk response laugh.gif

That's the T&C of using the TM Website, not of the Unifi service.
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mayb u shld include cheaper price in boycott. cheaper as in cheaper bcoz it's expensive... not bcoz of the capped thing...
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the page u can write anything u want. as long as u're unhappy with unifi's plans

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did u guys heard? tm make announce at twitter saying dey will revise price
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did u guys heard? tm make announce at twitter saying dey will revise price
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and also no more volume cap for all unifi packages! now go get yourselves HSBB!!
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and also no more volume cap for all unifi packages! now go get yourselves HSBB!!
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yeah right. you think we were born yesterday? once they get all their subscribers, they will implement the cap again!
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did u guys heard? tm make announce at twitter saying dey will revise price
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I check their twitter page... tadak...

http://twitter.com/TMCorp
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QUOTE(Diran Hans @ Mar 26 2010, 02:42 PM)
and also no more volume cap for all unifi packages! now go get yourselves HSBB!!
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they say "no more volume cap, for now"

that does not sound very assuring

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did u guys heard? tm make announce at twitter saying dey will revise price
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is it revise to a higher price?haha
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#TM 2 annc complete list of lower prices 4 all BBGP packages soon.time needed 2 consolidate various #streamyx bundles & packages available about 2 hours ago via Seesmic

This is for streamyx or what?
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#TM 2 annc complete list of lower prices 4 all BBGP packages soon.time needed 2 consolidate various #streamyx bundles & packages available    about 2 hours ago via Seesmic 

This is for streamyx or what?
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Correct! but what's the best way you reckon to make this happen? hmm.gif
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boycott .. yeah thats gonna work..lol
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boycott .. yeah thats gonna work..lol
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sure, it may end up not amounting to much. But it sure is better than sitting down doing nothing whistling.gif
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hahaaha... why u all too idiot haaaa..?
If say Unifi not good so why not just subcribe other service provider like maxis or celcom..

Too Idiot laa korang...haha
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QUOTE(leonkennedy @ Mar 26 2010, 03:48 PM)
hahaaha... why u all too idiot haaaa..?
If say Unifi not good so why not just subcribe other service provider like maxis or celcom..

Too Idiot laa korang...haha
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let' see...

metrofon not on my area
jaring not on my area
time not on my area

i'm using a wireless router to connect to 3 pc + 1 ps3 and you expect wireless service maxis or sial-con gonna help?
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QUOTE(Instant_noodle @ Mar 26 2010, 03:52 PM)
let' see...

metrofon not on my area
jaring not on my area
time not on my area

i'm using a wireless router to connect to 3 pc + 1 ps3 and you expect wireless service maxis or sial-con gonna help?
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How about Streamyx & P1....
BTW, where you staying actually..........?
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well , blame those company of not setting up for business there then...or maybe if got good explanation why they dont expand their service there i can accept.
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QUOTE(zanasa @ Mar 26 2010, 02:32 PM)
TM , you make malaysia a laughing stock to our neighbour country by your debut Unifail , contradict with all the said to be

"mampu milik " - X " more % penetration" - X -  how can  bla..bla...Caps ? - anti climax
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Betul wat.

'Mampu milik' - TM Ownz ya, you maggots!!!
'more % penetration' - TM screw ya more!!!!


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We should all unifi and boycott the the services until they drop the cap things. They will not care if still got some nut case subscribe to the service.....Lets send them a message like what we did to the government in 2008 election...

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HSBB will NOT have 1.4 million suscribers... dat they are alwiz bragging about in the posters for streamyx
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QUOTE(boon.fong @ Mar 26 2010, 04:00 PM)
We should all unifi and boycott the the services until they drop the cap things. They will not care if still got some nut case subscribe to the service.....
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they already dropped it ...only greedy pirate want to use them 24/7 , uh i better get back here after 1-2 hour for any incoming flame to disappear
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QUOTE(azzrul @ Mar 26 2010, 04:00 PM)
You guys yang bising-bising ni kawasan korang ada coverage HSBB ke............? laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif . AFAIK  pulau people won't get their HSBB until Q3
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BN purposely give us last so as not to interfere with Iskandar( BN project) competitiveness. BN very hate Penang.
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QUOTE(azzrul @ Mar 26 2010, 04:00 PM)
You guys yang bising-bising ni kawasan korang ada coverage HSBB ke............? laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif . AFAIK  pulau people won't get their HSBB until Q3
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Damn true tongue.gif

anyway, back to topic, according to twitter of TMCorp, the CAP thingy has been LIFTED OUT!
Now u can enjoy UNLIMITED download!!

"Internet 5MB+IPTV+free call to fixed line" is really a good deal for RM149. (for me laa..) smile.gif
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QUOTE(roommate @ Mar 26 2010, 04:04 PM)
Damn true  tongue.gif

anyway, back to topic, according to twitter of TMCorp, the CAP thingy has been LIFTED OUT!
Now u can enjoy UNLIMITED download!!

"Internet 5MB+IPTV+free call to fixed line" is really a good deal for RM149.  (for me laa..)  smile.gif
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Is it that they've just dropped it temporarily or permanently?


Once you sign up you'll be binded to a two years contract. What happens if they suddenly decide to implement the cap a day after you registered? Or a week? Or a month?


Even better, what if after they get enough subscribers, they decide that for 5mbps package giving 30GB of bandwidth is already enough after their "monitoring" session?

This post has been edited by Enigmatic: Mar 26 2010, 04:06 PM
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QUOTE(Borsch Soup @ Mar 26 2010, 04:04 PM)
BN purposely give us last so as not to interfere with Iskandar( BN project) competitiveness. BN very hate Penang.
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Klang also Q4 leh.. dont tell me BN hate Klang also.

QUOTE(Enigmatic @ Mar 26 2010, 04:06 PM)
Is it that they've just dropped it temporarily or permanently?
Once you sign up you'll be binded to a two years contract. What happens if they suddenly decide to implement the cap a day after you registered? Or a week? Or a month?
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the cap will be implemented again just matter of time after they study the bandwidth require and make a fair decision. its call fair usage policy anyhoo~

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“NO volume cap 4 all #unifi packages 4 now. Decision due to public feedback. TM will only monitor usage pattern 4 time being (sic),” read the tweet.

They will implement it in the future. Prepare for it brows.gif
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QUOTE(Diran Hans @ Mar 26 2010, 04:06 PM)
Klang also Q4 leh.. dont tell me BN hate Klang also.
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TM launch cycle,

Build here, launch, collect money.

After have money,
Build there, launch, collect money.

Again after have money,
Build another place, launch, collect money.

repeat repeat repeat.

No wonder so slow la.
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post Mar 26 2010, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(Borsch Soup @ Mar 26 2010, 04:07 PM)
TM launch cycle,

Build here, launch, collect money.

After have money,
Build there, launch, collect money.

Again after have money,
Build another place, launch, collect money.

repeat repeat repeat.

No wonder so slow la.
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post Mar 26 2010, 04:08 PM

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How about Streamyx & P1....
BTW, where you staying actually..........?
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in a galaxy far, far away...

just jokin' tongue.gif

*any* wireless service is overkill for me, and it will clog when i decide to play WoW and surf the web for quests, while my sister is checking youtube & msn and my lil' bro doin his MGO stunts/ looking for faqs to help killing greek gawds on some game.

i'm on stimix and already suffering from high latency, now the people who brains are on their d*cks (peeps with brain on their arse can still think, but who brains are on their d*cks is the worst: 1st they can't think becoz no blood being pumped; and when they can think they can't think straight... u know la... *stim* *stim* liao must 'go' 1...) provide a even lousier package...

mana QoS? mana low low latency? mana the dream of connecting to foreign server and be competitive on games?
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yup lifting of the cap is good news indeed
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QUOTE(Diran Hans @ Mar 26 2010, 04:08 PM)
prove or gtfo
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F U laa, U think this is RWI ah?
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FYI, TM has decided to remove the volume for all UniFi package.
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QUOTE(Borsch Soup @ Mar 26 2010, 04:09 PM)
F U laa, U think this is RWI ah?
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RWI or not this is a discussion thread with proper discussion not just hearsay
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QUOTE(lulz @ Mar 26 2010, 03:55 PM)
well , blame those company of not setting up for business there then...or maybe if got good explanation why they dont expand their service there i can accept.
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blame them?

jaring is the 1st company that introduced 1mbps in this region, way ahead of singapore...

then everything went bleak with privatization and TMNut kills jaring and time...

if imma blame... i blame a certain mamak nyanyuk for starting privatization in the 1st place...
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post Mar 26 2010, 04:11 PM

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Their two years contract can make many people fall for their trap if the public don't think one step ahead.


What if TM decides to implement FUP right tomorrow? What if they announce it they would do it in June? With the 2 years contract, would the you guys still be interested to subscribe to it?


Please think ahead, they can give all the sweet promises now, but remember about the 2 years contract and the penalty behind it. Do not subscribe until they can confirm a definite FUP policy. Else, they can always wait till they get enough subscribers and impose a much stricter limit, regardless of what, you can't run away unless you're willing to pay the penalty anyway.
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QUOTE(Diran Hans @ Mar 26 2010, 04:10 PM)
RWI or not this is a discussion thread with proper discussion not just hearsay
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It is called analysis not hearsay.
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QUOTE(Borsch Soup @ Mar 26 2010, 04:11 PM)
It is called analysis not hearsay.
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ya mana prove "analysis" ini?

url? link? tv? youtube?
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ya mana prove "analysis" ini?

url? link? tv? youtube?
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Dalam buntut Saiful, u pi cari la.
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lol... fespam
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Lower PRICE!!!

NO CAPS!!!!

SHORTER CONTRACTS!!!

or we can all move to sg and get speeds much faster than this lot for a mere rm200 0.o

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QUOTE(Enigmatic @ Mar 26 2010, 04:11 PM)
Their two years contract can make many people fall for their trap if the public don't think one step ahead.
What if TM decides to implement FUP right tomorrow? What if they announce it they would do it in June? With the 2 years contract, would the you guys still be interested to subscribe to it?
Please think ahead, they can give all the sweet promises now, but remember about the 2 years contract and the penalty behind it. Do not subscribe until they can confirm a definite FUP policy. Else, they can always wait till they get enough subscribers and impose a much stricter limit, regardless of what, you can't run away unless you're willing to pay the penalty anyway.
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yea your right, but as what has been said in tmcorp twitter the new fair usage policy will be implemented in 2011.

correct me if im wrong.
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Their two years contract can make many people fall for their trap if the public don't think one step ahead.
What if TM decides to implement FUP right tomorrow? What if they announce it they would do it in June? With the 2 years contract, would the you guys still be interested to subscribe to it?
Please think ahead, they can give all the sweet promises now, but remember about the 2 years contract and the penalty behind it. Do not subscribe until they can confirm a definite FUP policy. Else, they can always wait till they get enough subscribers and impose a much stricter limit, regardless of what, you can't run away unless you're willing to pay the penalty anyway.












alloo bro,

kalau u rasa susah sgt xpayah la subcribe,

nak bising2 buat apa...buat malu ja.....kalau xmampu xpayah laa subcribe...

bukan nya TM paksa ambil pun..

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QUOTE(Diran Hans @ Mar 26 2010, 04:17 PM)
yea your right, but as what has been said in tmcorp twitter the new fair usage policy will be implemented in 2011.

correct me if im wrong.
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Yes, I also gotten news that the FUP will be implemented next year. smile.gif I guess it's really up to the public to decide and think through it, however, remember to tell people that the FUP is just lifted *for now*, and let them know thoroughly of the contract issues and *possible risks*. smile.gif



QUOTE(leonkennedy @ Mar 26 2010, 04:19 PM)
Their two years contract can make many people fall for their trap if the public don't think one step ahead.
What if TM decides to implement FUP right tomorrow? What if they announce it they would do it in June? With the 2 years contract, would the you guys still be interested to subscribe to it?
Please think ahead, they can give all the sweet promises now, but remember about the 2 years contract and the penalty behind it. Do not subscribe until they can confirm a definite FUP policy. Else, they can always wait till they get enough subscribers and impose a much stricter limit, regardless of what, you can't run away unless you're willing to pay the penalty anyway.
alloo bro,

kalau u rasa susah sgt xpayah la subcribe,

nak bising2 buat apa...buat malu ja.....kalau xmampu xpayah laa subcribe...

bukan nya TM paksa ambil pun..
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Hahaha. Aih. I pity people like you. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Diran Hans @ Mar 26 2010, 04:17 PM)
yea your right, but as what has been said in tmcorp twitter the new fair usage policy will be implemented in 2011.

correct me if im wrong.
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Yeah, but as u can see, they can change the policy based on DEMAND! So rite now since many people request to lifted out the CAP, they already lifted it out, though its for short period.


QUOTE(leonkennedy @ Mar 26 2010, 04:19 PM)
alloo bro,

kalau u rasa susah sgt xpayah la subcribe,

nak bising2 buat apa...buat malu ja.....kalau xmampu xpayah laa subcribe...

bukan nya TM paksa ambil pun..
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Yeah, and actually those who mocking at here are not even in the Unifi area yet. tongue.gif

Anyway, they have their right to voice out their opinion coz in the future, they also will experience Unify in their area biggrin.gif

But for the price, I think its good, where to get "Internet+IPTV+free call to Fixed line" at RM149??

Now the streamyx+Astro pon already exceed the above price.
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QUOTE(Enigmatic @ Mar 26 2010, 01:20 PM)
laugh.gif
It was already mentioned on the official HSBB thread that UniFi will not be capping until much later during the year or next year, during this period they'll be doing "monitoring of bandwidth usage" only.
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sure la that wan. until end of this year is like TRIAL
right now only a few res areas covered bangsar, subang, TTDI, etc

rest all planned to be Q3/Q4 this year wink.gif

so?

right now, not many people, their network is ok. Q3/Q4 when more people subscribe as more areas are covered.
of COURSE TM will exercise FUP so that UNIFI can take on ALL THESE NEW CUSTOMERS without UPGRADING ANYTHING biggrin.gif



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@roommate

yea it will be implemented and they will raise it if needed, judging from what the twitter message is about. anyway thats how i assume it means.

fingers crossed xD


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QUOTE(almaty @ Mar 26 2010, 04:26 PM)
sure la that wan. until end of this year is like TRIAL
right now only a few res areas covered bangsar, subang, TTDI, etc

rest all planned to be Q3/Q4 this year wink.gif

so?

right now, not many people, their network is ok. Q3/Q4 when more people subscribe as more areas are covered.
of COURSE TM will exercise FUP so that UNIFI can take on ALL THESE NEW CUSTOMERS without UPGRADING ANYTHING biggrin.gif
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U're wrong. For the new area, the implementation of cabling is on process, which means its totally new backbone, seperated from the existing one (sorry can't provide source, read somewhere in newspaper before, but forgot which newspaper)
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By JO TIMBUONG

intech@thestar.com.my

PETALING JAYA: Good news. The download cap on Telekom Malaysia’s UniFi high speed broadband service packages has been suspended.

The telco made the announcement on the Twitter microblogging site today and said it made the decision after taking into account public feedback on the cap.

“NO volume cap 4 all #unifi packages 4 now. Decision due to public feedback. TM will only monitor usage pattern 4 time being (sic),” read the tweet.

A spokesman for Telekom Malaysia told In.Tech that the telco, however, does still reserve the right to enforce a download limit to ensure all UniFi subscribers receive equal service quality.

Yesterday, many Malaysians complained on Twitter about the cap. They were disappointed because the cap would restrict the daily amount of data they can download via the high speed broadband service. (See report at http://bit.ly/ddk67k.)

They were also disappointed to learn that if the cap was exceeded, their connections would be throttled down to about 10% of the purchased speed. UniFi is available in 5Mbps (megabits per second), 10Mbps and 20Mbps packages.

With the latest announcement by Telekom Malaysia, many people are rejoicing. Among them is communications consultant Justin Then, who said he’s happy to note that Telekom Malaysia listens to consumers.

“Capping our high speed Internet access doesn’t make sense, if the Government wants Malaysians to seek out knowledge and be innovative,” he said.

A Twitter user, who asked to be identified only as Flo, said she’s glad Telekom Malaysia has decided not to employ the cap for now.

“We are paying a premium for technology that offers super high bandwidth, so a daily cap shouldn’t be applied. There’s no value in that; we would be better off with regular broadband,” she said.
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QUOTE(roommate @ Mar 26 2010, 04:29 PM)
U're wrong. For the new area, the implementation of cabling is on process, which means its totally new backbone, seperated from the existing one (sorry can't provide source, read somewhere in newspaper before, but forgot which newspaper)
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backbone?? eh local traffic we got more than enough. its "DARK FIBER". not enough light passing through biggrin.gif
intl traffic. now that we dont have enough of.

NOW. can the experts comment?

IS TM able to DIFFERENTIATE between INTL and LOCAL usage by the users?
why? i ask because local traffic cost almost nothing to TM and yet their CAP includes local+intl.
so is it impossible or cost prohibitive to make that distinction?

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QUOTE(almaty @ Mar 26 2010, 04:37 PM)
backbone?? eh local traffic we got more than enough. its "DARK FIBER". not enough light passing through biggrin.gif
intl traffic. now that we dont have enough of.

NOW. can the experts comment?

IS TM able to DIFFERENTIATE between INTL and LOCAL usage by the users?
why? i ask because local traffic cost almost nothing to TM and yet their CAP includes local+intl.
so is it impossible or cost prohibitive to make that distinction?
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provide ways to make the distinction. give us an example.

if you cant then you can already answer your own question.
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it's probably a combination of both. All caps are managed by the AAA systems so to link the systems with the routers are quite challenging if not impossible with current technology. so a blanket rule would be the most straightforward.

i think tm can and has already implemented a mechanism to differentiate classes of internet users at their international gateways so in a way this would address the issue. local traffic would probably never be subjected to congestion provided the local backhaul are overprovisioned.
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QUOTE(azzrul @ Mar 26 2010, 04:36 PM)
By JO TIMBUONG

intech@thestar.com.my

PETALING JAYA: Good news. The download cap on Telekom Malaysia’s UniFi high speed broadband service packages has been suspended.

The telco made the announcement on the Twitter microblogging site today and said it made the decision after taking into account public feedback on the cap.

“NO volume cap 4 all #unifi packages 4 now. Decision due to public feedback. TM will only monitor usage pattern 4 time being (sic),” read the tweet.

A spokesman for Telekom Malaysia told In.Tech that the telco, however, does still reserve the right to enforce a download limit to ensure all UniFi subscribers receive equal service quality.

Yesterday, many Malaysians complained on Twitter about the cap. They were disappointed because the cap would restrict the daily amount of data they can download via the high speed broadband service. (See report at http://bit.ly/ddk67k.)

They were also disappointed to learn that if the cap was exceeded, their connections would be throttled down to about 10% of the purchased speed. UniFi is available in 5Mbps (megabits per second), 10Mbps and 20Mbps packages.

With the latest announcement by Telekom Malaysia, many people are rejoicing. Among them is communications consultant Justin Then, who said he’s happy to note that Telekom Malaysia listens to consumers.

“Capping our high speed Internet access doesn’t make sense, if the Government wants Malaysians to seek out knowledge and be innovative,” he said.

A Twitter user, who asked to be identified only as Flo, said she’s glad Telekom Malaysia has decided not to employ the cap for now.

“We are paying a premium for technology that offers super high bandwidth, so a daily cap shouldn’t be applied. There’s no value in that; we would be better off with regular broadband,” she said.
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After they pancing enough ppl then they conveniently put the cap back trying oh-so-hard to justify the cap, oh TM you bullshit artist you.
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lol remove cap kena fire , tak remove cap kena fire . Some people really.........
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Now the cap have been removed..
Download as much while you can..
They listen to our concern and they also a human being.
So stop rant or complaint..
Give them chance to improve..

btw did you guys already in area of coverage ??
My area kota damansara, not yet covered..

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the 60G cap is written black and white
the cap suspension is just verbal


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lol remove cap kena fire , tak remove cap kena fire . Some people really.........
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come on srsly? do you belip every kok tok by tm? ops my bad i guess you do laugh.gif
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QUOTE(cipan2001 @ Mar 26 2010, 04:56 PM)
Now the cap have been removed..
Download as much while you can..
They listen to our concern and they also a human being.
So stop rant or complaint..
Give them chance to improve..

btw did you guys already in area of coverage ??
My area kota damansara, not yet covered..
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removed?
they mentioned 'suspend' and 'monitor', but not 'remove'

now, i urge u


plz jump into the bandwagon since you said is 'removed', so i can laugh at you when you complain about lags and caps in the future

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if people abusing this by using Torrent kau kau...i will 100% support to reimplement the cap....since no point we the pity users get slow connection caused by all the inconsiderate torrent users...
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It is just temporary solution to cool down raging customers...wait lar...3 months later, then u know. :;
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That's why i will go for business package need to register dummy company with SSM
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LOL, I like the fact they are removing the cap (temporarily) after the full forced feedback from the public.

it is at least a silver lining for a lot of people looking to enjoy this service.

but i think the principle is still the fact that they can still curb your data per day that is the major crunch, imagine this scenario...

"Building a highway, 5 lanes long, no traffic, we can travel at 200km - 300km (if u own the wheels) and then you find out that you are only allowed to drive up to 30KM to 120KM after that no road usage for you." at that rate you cannot even hit Penang from KL..LOL
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As far as we know TM will definitely impose cap on the line, i don't mind but at least give us a reasonable cap matching our package not the crazy cap of 60GB on 5Mb line per month. I hope before they reach my area, the issue regarding cap have been clear in black & white. So we know what we are getting since they impose 2 year contract on us.
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QUOTE(Instant_noodle @ Mar 26 2010, 05:03 PM)
removed?
they mentioned 'suspend' and 'monitor', but not 'remove'

now, i urge u
plz jump into the bandwagon since you said is 'removed', so i can laugh at you when you complain about lags and caps in the future
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did you use internet from TM ??

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