This is a ridiculous argument.

The reason HSBB is created is to cater for online content, which includes online HD content, which is not necessarily delivered through your IPTV. So you'll easily hit that 2GB/day limit with 5mbps. EASILY.

You don't have to be a pirate to hit those rates.

Since you're a trial user

how much do you use roughly? Not counting trying to smash through their limits Do you think its going to be useful if its capped at 60GB? What cap do you think would be reasonable as a test user?

Same here, available to me, but I'm not going to support it until they up the caps by at least 150%

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Added on March 25, 2010, 1:38 pmits mentioned that the 60gb cap is pro-rated throughout the month, so we're assuming a 2GB cap per day from the way they describe it.

This post has been edited by silverhawk: Mar 25 2010, 01:38 PM

My house alone has 4 pcs as well well 1 pc, and 3 notebooks...

I think a 150GB cap for 5mbps package would suffice, there should be enough headroom for times we need to download huge patches for games and stuff. Otherwise no point going to HSBB, sticking with streamyx would make more sense.


if you want to compare, you compare with something better. You don't compare with crap.

I agree with the steam thing. Some patches are 100mbs in size even, and if you have a few games, expect to download like 400-500mb easily. We PAID For these games.

I just checked my internet connection usage. I restarted my pc yesterday, and didnt do any downloading, just surfing and reading some manga on onemanga.com. I've already used 700+MB downloads and 300+mb upload. That's on a 1mbps streamyx line without actually actively downloading files.

Even if they did that, I would still call it an irrelevant comparison.

Can you take usage data of 56k users to extrapolate the needs when you go on to ADSL? HELL NO

Sure, MOST people would not use up to 60GB a month, but MOST people also won't be needed the speeds provided by HSBB, their needs are more than catered to using 512kbps streamyx or even if they need to, 1mbps package. Even the 1mbps package is overkill for some.

The whole point of getting 5mbps is so you can really enjoy the stuff that requires higher bandwidth. Its like giving you a ferrari, with a speed limiter of 60kph. Defeats the whole bloody purpose.

Most of us here are fine with caps, and I would actually advocate caps because it keeps the whole system under control and a better experience for everyone. However the caps should be justified, a 60GB cap on a 5mbps line doesn't make any sense.

I calculated in the other thread, that if you average out the usage of HSBB to 8 hours a day with a 60GB/month (2GB/day) cap. To use up your cap, you would need to average your usage to about 900kbps for that 8 hours. So what's the point of getting HSBB? With that kind of usage rates, you might as well stick with streamyx.

You download shows, but what quality do you download? Do you watch crappy rmvb encodes? do you watch normal hdtv episodes? or do you watch 720p videos?

HSBB is meant to allow you access HD content like 720p videos and even stream it without problems, but if you have a 60GB cap, that just doesn't make any sort of sense.

and what's the usage data of 4mbps users? I doubt its 60GB a month


Of course not, but the whole point of having a HSBB is to be able to do things like you just mentioned no?


Nope, the point of a ferrari is to drive fast in a car made to drive fast. You buy it because you want to enjoy driving with that speed. The same applies to HSBB, what's the point of paying for 5mbps when 90% of the time you're going to be limited to 1mbps because of the cap?

Unfortunately the download cap also includes local traffic, which IMO is stupid. I explained earlier that if they didn't count local traffic and gave a BOOST in speed among local peers, then people would subscribe and the people will spread the downloadable content amongst themselves, easing the burden on the international link because local people are providing the content.

Throw up a metro-lan for HSBB, and the need for an international link abuse goes down.

So if you stream such a movie, how are you going to watch it when you get capped at around 2GB a day?

So anyone creating a boycott facebook page/group yet?

Upload is really useful to me due to the amount of stuff I have to upload everyday

Still, the cap is ridiculous

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Boycott-TmNE...105204452847672

Created a facebook page

Oh, though it auto joins if im the creator

12 now

Someone create sigs for it so we can use?

Someone with skills in graphics, make some sig buttons/banners for us to use?

We are TMNET customers, we do have a right to complain because we are also potential customers.

Joined the boycott facebook page yet?

I say, keep the cap, but increase it so its more reasonable and follows what a broadband package should be like.

The fan page is growing quite nicely

If you want them to change, you got to make sure "demands" are reasonable. Then they are more likely to follow the demands.

60GB per day is ridiculous. Unlimited would be nice as well, but I think that would destroy whatever is left of our international line