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almaty
post Mar 26 2010, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(Enigmatic @ Mar 26 2010, 01:20 PM)
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It was already mentioned on the official HSBB thread that UniFi will not be capping until much later during the year or next year, during this period they'll be doing "monitoring of bandwidth usage" only.
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sure la that wan. until end of this year is like TRIAL
right now only a few res areas covered bangsar, subang, TTDI, etc

rest all planned to be Q3/Q4 this year wink.gif

so?

right now, not many people, their network is ok. Q3/Q4 when more people subscribe as more areas are covered.
of COURSE TM will exercise FUP so that UNIFI can take on ALL THESE NEW CUSTOMERS without UPGRADING ANYTHING biggrin.gif



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post Mar 26 2010, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(roommate @ Mar 26 2010, 04:29 PM)
U're wrong. For the new area, the implementation of cabling is on process, which means its totally new backbone, seperated from the existing one (sorry can't provide source, read somewhere in newspaper before, but forgot which newspaper)
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backbone?? eh local traffic we got more than enough. its "DARK FIBER". not enough light passing through biggrin.gif
intl traffic. now that we dont have enough of.

NOW. can the experts comment?

IS TM able to DIFFERENTIATE between INTL and LOCAL usage by the users?
why? i ask because local traffic cost almost nothing to TM and yet their CAP includes local+intl.
so is it impossible or cost prohibitive to make that distinction?

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post Mar 28 2010, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(Eoma @ Mar 27 2010, 10:15 PM)
Why is there no boycott when Astro says you need to buy a 2nd decoder to watch 2 channels simultaneously ?
If you want >60GB shared between more than 1 user, get a 2nd account. or a higher package ? Far fetched ?

My opinion lah: Greed and fear. A knee-jerk reaction.

Well, if the united malaysian front for "I-want-to-download-more-than-60GB-of-patches-linux distros-email-youtube-a-month" (snigger) can "overturn" TM's capping decision,
I'd like to see what they can do regarding the Astro issue.
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we are talking about unfi here. not astro. if you are not happy with astro, by all means create a thread to voice your displeasure.

if you are happy with the 60Gb that tm offers, that is your prerogative. just state your contentment and be done with it.
no need to belittle others who do not think that the 60Gb they are offering is adequate or reasonable.


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post Mar 28 2010, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(Eoma @ Mar 28 2010, 12:58 PM)
I'll quote ihsan's reply for this:
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i know if some of these smart alecs here are running their own isp, they would go titsup before their first customer can even pay the bills

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TM has a hold on submarine cable landing rights, deregulate and make everyone compete on a level playing field.
Lets see who goes titsup first.

Do you know for a fact that if some of these smart alecs were to run their own isps it would go titsup...really?
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post Mar 28 2010, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(Eoma @ Mar 28 2010, 01:31 PM)
You're not paying for exclusive use of their Int'l backbone. You're paying for a broadband connection with the added service of Internet connectivity.
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using your cake analogy, we are NOT buying a broadband connection with the added service of Internet connectivity.
that is to say we are not buying the base of the cake with the cream on top as an added service.

iptv and voip, the cherries, choc chips on a cake are the added services.

moving on.

i am not saying i want the whole darn cake. (maybe some do but whatever)
all i want is the slice of the cake to be bigger and to commensurate what im paying for it.

meaning instead of slicing up the cake into 50 pieces for eg. i would like the cake to be sliced into 30 slices so i will get a bigger slice compared to the former...

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post Mar 28 2010, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(Eoma @ Mar 28 2010, 01:45 PM)
That's why it's called 3-play sayang. Internet connectivity and broadband connection are not the same thing. It's just been (wrongfully) used to represent the other.
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so youre saying that the billions (from the tax payers) spent on laying fiber is just for a framework to deliver iptv and voip and local network access. forget the internet, we will be fine with local content from local servers?

add:

iptv:
ask anyone, makcik in kampung, 4 year old kid, apek in kedai kopi, expat in msia. show them the list of chan from hypp and astro. ask them if they can only pick one which one would they choose? why only one? average msian is not rich and getting smarter by not mambazir duit.

voip:
cannot reuse existing pstn number? businesses will love this. and so will millions of faithful tm customers who have been using the same number for eons.

sme...kalo takde elektrik voip takle guna? dulu letrik takde pun telefon boleh guna, sales call, customer call, still business as usual. lebih baik i just stick with the normal phone. apa faedahnya guna voip?

in conclusion:

kalo tak nak triple play boleh? apasal tak boleh? our economy is not doing so well. as enlightened consumers, we prefer not to waste money and save where we can.

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post Mar 28 2010, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(Eoma @ Mar 28 2010, 02:17 PM)
I did not say that, you are @ through assumption.
A broadband connection is a gateway to a whole slew of new services and content delivery. Delivery through the Internet is just one of those possibilities.
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ok if you didnt mean that, my bad.
gtg now. other things to do. wink.gif

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post Mar 28 2010, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(mylinear @ Mar 28 2010, 03:03 PM)
Could you please point to where you find "unlimited download" or "unlimited data transfer"? I have been looking but have not been successful.
Also, pleas understand difference between shared and dedicated.
i have seen the words "unlimited downloads" on streamyxs website in the past. iirc, it even goes to say you how fast/much music we can download or something along those lines.

now if it were not tm or tmnets intention and consumers were construing it as such. why did they not take the initiative to spell it out clearly so it is unambiguous?

look at what is going on with unifi in the t&c again. tm reserves the right to implement FUP if you exceed the cap. BUT OH THEY FORGOT TO mention what exactly the penalties are. why?



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No point just going on with "I don't care,  I want unlimited...".
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also, if TM knows for a fact that 6% of its users are abusing its T&C and continually hogging the bandwidth and thus ruining the internet experience of the other 94%. why didnt they do anything about it?

a few years back, TM said it was 20% using 80% of the bandwidth.

instead they just use them as an excuse for their networks shortcomings.

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post Mar 28 2010, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Mar 28 2010, 05:10 PM)
cause if that happens, no one would choose IPTV, means IPTV no customers, means a failure for one of the objectives of HSBB
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tbh, tm is following the footsteps of all previous victims, mitv, megatv for eg.

their channel lineup is disappointing to say the least (i wanted to say pathetic)

just like previous wannabes, they are just saying that "oh, we will have more quality channels in future"
but then, it never comes to be and...




anyway, maybe astro will come to the rescue and say i will rent this content delivery framework so that my customers can watch astro even if its raining fron now on biggrin.gif


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post Mar 28 2010, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(powerfulcool @ Mar 28 2010, 05:12 PM)
that analogy is not accurate. heck, analogies are for people who cannot deliver their points coherently so they rely on analogies. like you.

check a few pages back, a moderator has already explained why line sharing is not illegal and not ethically wrong. in short you as a consumer are NOT paying for a dedicated line, thus the line sharing and when you share you should try to be ethical and not hog the bandwidth.

so shut it already with the cookies, apples or any other analogies you uncreative lot come up with.
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why do you find it necessary to attack someone personally. afaik he has not disrespected your right to convey your point nor your intelligence.

analogies are useful. not everyone is as smart as you wink.gif

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post Mar 28 2010, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(mylinear @ Mar 28 2010, 05:16 PM)
Because they said other providers cannot just resell HSI, must have at least 2 service. If TM can sell HSI only, others also should be able to. Others may sell less than TM. TM may lose hold on Internet users due to competition. Competition like that good for consumers, but not TM.
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hats off. perfectly explained rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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post Mar 28 2010, 06:32 PM

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i agree.

but most of us who have been consumers for some years know when something is a "good buy" and when we are getting "fleeced"

we roughly know how much a nasi lemak can be. maybe $.90 at the market bungkus. $1.50 with egg at the mamak. $9 at a hotel maybe.

charge us $13 and we know this xxxxxxxxx is fleecing us.

anyway, all im saying is $149 for 60Gb @ 5Mb/s is just not right.



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