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post Feb 11 2010, 09:31 AM, updated 16y ago

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Fixture (2009/10):
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August
15 Sat Barclays Premier League A Everton  6 1
18 Tue UEFA Champions League A Celtic  2 0
22 Sat Barclays Premier League H Portsmouth  4 1
26 Wed UEFA Champions League H Celtic  3 1
29 Sat Barclays Premier League A Manchester United  1 2
September    
12 Sat Barclays Premier League A Manchester City  2 4
16 Wed UEFA Champions League A Standard Liege  3 2
19 Sat Barclays Premier League H Wigan Athletic  4 0
22 Tue Carling Cup H W.B.A.  2 0
26 Sat Barclays Premier League A Fulham  1 0
29 Tue UEFA Champions League H Olympiacos  2 0
October    
4 Sun Barclays Premier League H Blackburn Rovers  6 2
17 Sat Barclays Premier League H Birmingham 15:00 
20 Tue UEFA Champions League A AZ Alkmaar 19:45 
25 Sun Barclays Premier League A West Ham United 16:15 
28 Wed Carling Cup H Liverpool 19:45 
31 Sat Barclays Premier League H Tottenham Hotspur 12:45 
November    
4 Wed UEFA Champions League H AZ Alkmaar 19:45 
7 Sat Barclays Premier League A Wolverhampton 17:30 
21 Sat Barclays Premier League A Sunderland 15:00 
24 Tue UEFA Champions League H Standard Liege 19:45 
29 Sun Barclays Premier League H Chelsea 16:00 
December    
2 Wed Carling Cup N Quarter-Final  
5 Sat Barclays Premier League H Stoke City 15:00 
9 Wed UEFA Champions League A Olympiacos 19:45 
12 Sat Barclays Premier League A Liverpool 15:00 
15 Tue Barclays Premier League A Burnley 19:45 
19 Sat Barclays Premier League H Hull City 15:00 
26 Sat Barclays Premier League H Aston Villa 12:00 
28 Mon Barclays Premier League A Portsmouth 15:00 
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All the above are according to UK time

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QUOTE(sakaito @ Feb 28 2010, 04:09 AM)
for highlights...

http://arsenalist.com/

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anyway the 3rd goal says it all why we need rosicky in the team. his long range shots!
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UK-based sports sites:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/default.stm
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/
http://www.rockynewsnow.info/ - Its a modified version from NewsNow and concentrate solely for arsenal.. It also filtered out most crap, unreliable stuff from the blogosphere .. And best feature which still chuckled me, renamed some team/ sites to funny names .. that one you will have read yourself, it wont be much of a problem to know the original team anyway if you are an Arsenal's supporter for a while.

or follow good quality arsenal blogs which often have good insight and fan-written articles:
Arseblog ( http://www.oleole.com/blogs/arseblog ) - good old drunken arseblogger who swears at anything that's not arsenal
A Cultured Left Foot ( http://aculturedleftfoot.wordpress.com/ )- decent writeup and opinions
Gunnerblog ( http://gunnerblog.com/ ) - same as above
Goodplaya ( http://goodplaya.com/ )- probably the most accurate player analysis after a match
3rd Gen ( http://www.third-gen.com/ )- pretty good too
Arsenal Insider ( http://www.arsenalinsider.com/ )- very pro-Arsene site, but many good articles to read... great weekly TGIF, but not sure whether they still do it or not
Untold Arsenal ( http://blog.emiratesstadium.info/ )- My newest favourite arsenal site written by a die-hard old school gooner
http://www.goonernews.com - all-in-one Arsenal news web
http://arsenalist.com/ - for replays and highlights
http://myarsenalvlog.blogspot.com/ - for videos and highlights
http://arsenalanalysis.blogspot.com - technical analysis on Arsenal


For news and progress about the kids, try
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Arsenal Youth ( http://arsenalyouth.wordpress.com/ )
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The Emotional Highbury and The Grand Ashburton Grove

Highbury 1913-2006

For the majority of their time in south-east London, Arsenal played at the Manor Ground in Plumstead, a three-year period at the nearby Invicta Ground between 1890 and 1893 excepted. The Manor Ground was initially just a field, but the club installed stands and terracing in time for their first Football League match in September 1893. They played their home games there for the next twenty years (with two exceptions in 1894�95), until the move to north London in 1913.

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Arsenal Stadium, widely referred to as Highbury, was Arsenal's home from September 1913 until May 2006. The original stadium was designed by the renowned football architect Archibald Leitch, and had a design common to many football grounds in the UK at the time, with a single covered stand and three open-air banks of terracing. In the 1930s, the entire stadium was given a massive overhaul, with new Art Deco West and East stands constructed, opening in 1932 and 1936 respectively; in addition, the North Bank terrace had a roof added, which was later bombed during World War II and not restored until 1956.

At its peak, Highbury could hold over 60,000 spectators, and had a capacity of 57,000 until the early 1990s. The Taylor Report and Premier League regulations forced Arsenal to convert Highbury into an all-seater in time for the 1993�94 season, reducing the capacity to 38,419 seated spectators. This capacity had to be reduced further during Champions League matches to accommodate additional advertising hoardings, so much so that for two seasons (1998�99 and 1999�00) Arsenal played Champions League home matches at Wembley, which could house more than 70,000 spectators.

Final moments - the emotions run high in Highbury

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Ashburton Grove 2007-present

Expansion of Highbury was restricted because the East Stand had been designated as a Grade II listed building and the other three stands were close to residential properties. These limitations have prevented the club from maximising the revenue that their domestic form could have brought in recent seasons. After considering various options, in 2000 Arsenal proposed building a new 60,000-seater stadium at Ashburton Grove, since renamed the Emirates Stadium, about 500 metres south-west of Highbury. The project was initially delayed by red tape and rising costs, but construction was completed in July 2006, in time for the start of the 2006�07 season. The stadium is named after its sponsors, the airline company Emirates, with whom the club signed the largest sponsorship deal in English football history, worth approximately �100 million; however some fans refer to the ground as Ashburton Grove, or the Grove, as they do not agree with corporate sponsorship of stadium names.The stadium will be officially known as Emirates Stadium until at least 2012, and the airline will be the club's shirt sponsor until the end of the 2013�14 season.

Construction and completion of the Ashburton Grove

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As mentioned before, I may not able to online as frequent as I am now after this because I'm going back to hometown.

Here, I'd like to wish all fellow Chinese members:

Happy Chinese New Year ! Gong Xi Fatt Chai !


To others, Happy Holiday!


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Some posts taken from previous thread:

QUOTE(Lowyat @ Feb 11 2010, 08:45 AM)
Congrate for the win...

Wondering why Everton can beat Chelsea but not us....sigh...
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QUOTE(waynewong79 @ Feb 11 2010, 08:47 AM)
pheww......at least we able to salvage 4 pts after a turbulence "hellish" month.
but the best parts is......chel & manu drops pts!!! yay!!!
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QUOTE(billygoh @ Feb 11 2010, 08:48 AM)
maybe chelsea underestimate everton?
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QUOTE(ESLord @ Feb 11 2010, 08:48 AM)
Sleepy head reporting in. Will be a long day today.

I've read a number of comments praising how great we are in this game, who, who and who has superb performance. Really? really we play well and created many chances? We had our good normal smooth play?

Our becoz we finally win- and to a "TOP FOUR" team?

We won because just a glimsp of brilliance up front. Other than that, we do not really create many chances. For those few we created, be blew it, wasteful as usual. AA, Rosky just to name at least 2. 

Our back 4, + 2( diaby - song) has done pretty neat. But then again, we are not facing the strongest liverpool side. Maxi had few chances, but if drop the foot of torres- it could have scored. Kuyt- not at his best. Ngog- well, just No GO.....

On the other hand, i see many AA's first touch which fails. Cesc also not at his best, partially those around him not moving/creating enough space. Bertner still not match fit- but he will never going to be as agile as we hope to see. TW14, much has been said.

A win still a win, it is still 3 points and 3 point gain to the leader. Cheers and i do feel the histeria as well.
Yes- we have hope as most of difficult game are over. My view is those remaining- it is only up to ARSENAL to make the game easy, or difficult.  [city with exception, they can go crazy and rampant at time] In situation like this, it is better to focus on ourself in winning most of the remaining game.  No point to wish other team lose/draw, but we ourself can't pick up the 3 points.

6 points- different, 36 out for grab. How many can we afford to drop?
I recockon if we can get 30 out of 36, it will be a close fight. Any less - we are gone.
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QUOTE(rifasha @ Feb 11 2010, 08:50 AM)
i think they dun even watched the game~
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QUOTE(Azurues @ Feb 11 2010, 08:54 AM)
MY MOTM = GALLAS!!!

If u guys saw the counter by Liverpool where Ngog was ahead of both of our CB without being offside and i thaught damn is going to be 1-0 down.Vermaelan tried to push him away buy failed but just right before Ngog shot on goal, he made a superb back tackle to bring the ball away.I was like omg wtf how did he do that man.HIs clearance etc all was perfect today.

Now,back to title race so soon yea Arsenal tongue.gif
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QUOTE(tenno @ Feb 11 2010, 09:03 AM)
Finally.. something to celebrate. Great win.

But I'm totally, totally mad by Fabregas' actions in the final minute. Getting booked & then (dun tell me it was unintentional) raising his arm to hit the ball from Gerrard's freekick. We were extremely lucky that the referee decided to end the game & lucky again that he was standing on the line. On any other day, maybe our unlucky day, it could've been a penalty & we could've seen all the efforts in 90 mins of football blown away just like that (& maybe another Gallas outburst). What was he thinking ? I thought we only had 2 madmen in our team (Lehmann & Eboue), maybe Fabregas wanna join the club.

I dun care what y'all think about what I wrote, Fabregas had no business getting booked that way & raising his arms like that. Good win nevertheless.
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QUOTE(rich8610 @ Feb 11 2010, 09:05 AM)
lol..dia by by score le..so rarely he can scores.hehe..zz..Mu still can draw even red card. Both mu and chelsea must lose 2 more games oni arsenal got chance to title race.. everton so geng.zzzz..
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QUOTE(Phalanx @ Feb 11 2010, 09:13 AM)
Considering our morale was at a low after we had the back to back defeat, I'd settle with a win to boost our morale even though we may not necessarily put up a dominating display.

Against Man Utd, Chelsea and Liverpool, the chances to score will definitely be few and far in between given that their defense are tight - don't forget that Liverpool have kept 6 clean sheets in their previous 7 matches. The difference between the matches against the top two and this is that we converted our chance.
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QUOTE(WallaceZai @ Feb 11 2010, 09:17 AM)
Good job done by gunners and glad to see Nani sent off rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(ESLord @ Feb 11 2010, 09:23 AM)
Agree, agree.

There for what I say is : Good result. Not really good game/good play.

also bravo for the Gallas' superb pin point challenge on Ngog. that is very bold as any mistake = Penalty.
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QUOTE(Kimie @ Feb 11 2010, 09:24 AM)
Arshavin - thought that can goal but thru to net... sweat.gif
Rosicky - Damn lar why did't try that ball some more wanna touch2 in penalty box.. otherwise sudah goal doh.gif (luckily you & Bendtner made a great move that let Diaby score ... rclxm9.gif )
Gallas - Superb beb your tackle  sweat.gif (AW renewal his contract please)
Fabregas - He seems not 100% like so tired edi... his cross damn not as usual

Most of all Gunners had wake up from their bad dreams....yeay!!!
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QUOTE(sakaito @ Feb 11 2010, 09:31 AM)
well, Arshavin better quickly find his scoring boots again. it's getting closer and closer but no end product yet. haih...

I think with Bendtner in the game, AA got more movement and it's like a bit of weight been lifted from his shoulder.

Nasri broke his jaw is it? argh.. damn it.. just when he was getting into the groove of things.

all in all.. like some said, not really dominating game but just good enough to win. That's what we need.

Now, Rosicky please shoot!
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anyway, we won't be having any games this weekend until next mid week vs Porto. Good la... the players need some rest after the gruelling 4 match.

as AW puts it clearly;-

Nobody realises what it is to play Manchester United, Chelsea and Liverpool on the trot. Physically and mentally it is very demanding especially with the two massive disappointments.
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yeah...where is those trolls now? come and post your feeling by predicted wrongly...
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Buy Saha ? He is so good !
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hahaha... ok...

anyway, next game MU vs Everton. Mikel Arteta is back for the toffees and Feilani should be back vs. MU. waaaaa... i hope it'll turn out to be a battle royale. biggrin.gif

hopefully Arshavin and Nasri injury not that serious. We need as many players as we can now.

also hoping Wolves will provide some surprises too. wink.gif
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Kimhoong and fellow members that celebrate

Happy Chinese New Year ! Gong Xi Fatt Chai...!

Safe journey and driving too.. rclxms.gif rclxm9.gif thumbup.gif
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dono y, all the while, i feel we need a complete striker like saha.
can head, can shoot...

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woke up this morning and saw the all the scorelines shocking.gif

din expect the other 2 to drop points so quickly since their spirits are flying high now... blink.gif

anyhow... heard it's an ugly match... clearly handball by Fabregas though sweat.gif

p/s: i din predict the scoreline for this match, only for the last 2 matches, so dun bash me ph34r.gif
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dono y, all the while, i feel we need a complete striker like saha.
can head, can shoot...
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dennis,

don't buy 1st , make loan transfer 1st if he makes a good criteria as AW wants then put a permanent deal..

this guy (Saha) so good eh... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(maximus85 @ Feb 11 2010, 10:08 AM)
anyhow... heard it's an ugly match... clearly handball by Fabregas though sweat.gif
look a like though.. got to ask Fabregas what has happens

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i didn't watch the match (had to get enough rest cause gotta drive back to hometown tonight), but i'm really happy that we've managed to win ugly. just wanted to request that we do not goad about the victory and incite other forumers who do not share the same view with us. regardless of how different our opinions are, we're still arsenal supporters. let be gracious to each other. =)

anyway, wishing all those who celebrate CNY gong xi fa cai and to those who will be driving back to their respective hometowns, do drive safely and be courteous!
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he drifted off right after the whistle... din even stay on pitch for celebration.... clearly he felt guilty, but its a necessary evil, nonetheless....
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I only predicted Arsenal 10 Casanova 0...not yet come true though.Just came back from the Emirates and its ard 2am here thanks to the delayed train.Adrenaline still pumping though..a win after all those bad results was certainly sweet.Diaby's head got hair so can head the ball more properly compared to when he was bald laugh.gif

My Motm would be Diaby..besides the goal he scored,I liked the way he used his long legs to control the ball thumbup.gif Cesc was off today though,miss passes,one or two sloppy touches,and theo was well..ineffective to me.Clichy at least did not chase rabbits this match and performed better than previous matches.Not jumping on the Gerrard diving bandwagon though..when E****** ppl dive,its determination to win la,pure passion la,intelligence la..when other ppl dive,its pure cheating laugh.gif Thats the sick media here..Chelsea lost and MU draw coupled with Arsenal winning made my trip to the Emirates sweeter biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(kanelee @ Feb 11 2010, 10:20 AM)
I only predicted Arsenal 10 Casanova 0...not yet come true though.Just came back from the Emirates and its ard 2am here thanks to the delayed train.Adrenaline still pumping though..a win after all those bad results was certainly sweet.Diaby's head got hair so can head the ball more properly compared to when he was bald laugh.gif

My Motm would be Diaby..besides the goal he scored,I liked the way he used his long legs to control the ball thumbup.gif Cesc was off today though,miss passes,one or two sloppy touches,and theo was well..ineffective to me.Clichy at least did not chase rabbits this match and performed better than previous matches.Not jumping on the Gerrard diving bandwagon though..when E****** ppl dive,its determination to win la,pure passion la,intelligence la..when other ppl dive,its pure cheating laugh.gif Thats the sick media here..Chelsea lost and MU draw coupled with Arsenal winning made my trip to the Emirates sweeter biggrin.gif
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actually, Fabregas's hand ball in stoppage time was slightly outside the penalty box..
so it should not be a penalty call... sweat.gif

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QUOTE(kimhoong @ Feb 11 2010, 09:34 AM)
As mentioned before, I may not able to online as frequent as I am now after this because I'm going back to hometown.

Here, I'd like to wish all fellow Chinese members:

Happy Chinese New Year ! Gong Xi Fatt Chai !
To others, Happy Holiday!
Also, drive carefully smile.gif
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Same from me to all the Chinese members (including me)

Happy Chinese New Year!
Gong Hei Fatt Choy!
Have a prosperous and healthy new year!


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MOTM should be 'young Vieira'. Great header with an empathetic thump. With Diaby, Song was effective, together they bulged or bulked up arsenal midfield against Liverpool.

In my last post here I suggest that Vermalen should also share the blame for Drogba's goal.
Today Vermalen should shared the 'glory' for Gallas slidetackling and stopping Ngog from scoring.
Vermalen 'touched' and 'paused' Ngog who would have breakaway cleanly. Else Gallas would have given a penalty doing a 'Lee Carlsey' .

My point here is that Arsenal lacked that kind of ' defence quality', against Park's and Drogba's goal, which ManU always gets away with impunity such as Scholes (including the whole team) on Arshavin and Fab etc. No?

Oh, yes I'm echoing AW's comment on the type of 'bad football' played by 'U' know who.

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QUOTE(kanelee @ Feb 11 2010, 10:20 AM)
I only predicted Arsenal 10 Casanova 0...not yet come true though.Just came back from the Emirates and its ard 2am here thanks to the delayed train.Adrenaline still pumping though..a win after all those bad results was certainly sweet.Diaby's head got hair so can head the ball more properly compared to when he was bald laugh.gif

My Motm would be Diaby..besides the goal he scored,I liked the way he used his long legs to control the ball thumbup.gif Cesc was off today though,miss passes,one or two sloppy touches,and theo was well..ineffective to me.Clichy at least did not chase rabbits this match and performed better than previous matches.Not jumping on the Gerrard diving bandwagon though..when E****** ppl dive,its determination to win la,pure passion la,intelligence la..when other ppl dive,its pure cheating laugh.gif Thats the sick media here..Chelsea lost and MU draw coupled with Arsenal winning made my trip to the Emirates sweeter biggrin.gif
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damn dude... so sweet you were there...

better ask Diaby to maintain his hair, bald again?!... shakehead.gif
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Looking at this imagine if we replaced Sagna, Gallas, Vermaelen and Clichy with Cuellar, Collins, Dunne and Warnock/Young.................we could've been top of the league....hahahahaha tongue.gif

Just a joke guys....

QUOTE(Lowyat @ Feb 11 2010, 08:45 AM)
Congrate for the win...

Wondering why Everton can beat Chelsea but not us....sigh...
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Well, things like that are not guaranteed. Burnley beat United at home but have struggled against lesser opponent throughout the season. We beat Liverpool twice and yet could not beat United when Liverpool have defeated them. In short, different game, different team. Past results between other teams have no relevance.
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looking at the remaining difficult games below,
arsenal title hope is actually good..

Arsenal:
Tottenham (away)
Man City (home)

Man Utd:
Liverpool (home)
Chelsea (home)
Man City (away)
Tottenham (home)

Chelsea:
Man City (home)
Aston Villa (home)
Man Utd (away)
Tottenham (away)
Liverpool (away)


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Realistic:
we will become "dark horse" for the title race.

Optimistic:
We still can win league if we didnt lose any easy point.
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Realistic:
we will become "dark horse" for the title race.

Optimistic:
We still can win league if we didnt lose any easy point.
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diaby please stay fit and consistent. smile.gif
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highlights

http://rapidshare.com/files/348912150/MOTD..._-_10-02-10.avi

http://www.mediafire.com/?gndzgnrzmdm
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QUOTE(lostasylum @ Feb 11 2010, 10:22 AM)
man.. you are SO fortunate to be able to watch so many arsenal matches... =)
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QUOTE(Kimie @ Feb 11 2010, 10:36 AM)
damn dude... so sweet you were there...

better ask Diaby to maintain his hair, bald again?!... shakehead.gif
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Ya it was sweet..compared to the Chelsea matches laugh.gif I watch only 3 home games and 2 away games so far..not considered alot haha!Diaby with hair > Bald Diaby thumbup.gif

QUOTE(s|dE @ Feb 11 2010, 10:45 AM)
Realistic:
we will become "dark horse" for the title race.

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We still can win league if we didnt lose any easy point.
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Arsenal:
Tottenham (away) WIN
Man City (home) WIN

Man Utd:
Liverpool (home) WIN/Draw can't really see them lose again to liv but again, we never know.
Chelsea (home) draw
Man City (away) draw
Tottenham (home) win

Chelsea:
Man City (home) win
Aston Villa (home) draw or win
Man Utd (away) draw
Tottenham (away) lose or draw
Liverpool (away) hoping for a lost. wink.gif


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kanebu... u work in london or study?

cilakak damn u can watch live matches... vmad.gif
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kanelee

i was suppose to be there for chelsea and liverpool game but my boss didn't approve my leave. unlucky for me but luckily my fren managed to sold back my tickets and my flight tickets got refund too. i made the arrangement way back in October, after raya, so i had time to refund the flight tickets too. if not, mati leh. hehehe

so envy u rite now.. i'm so wanna go Emirates to watch vs ManCiteh. Hopefully my boss will be kind and grant me the leave in April. muahahaha

btw.. did u guys know that Villa scores for ManU!??? fark it.. how many o.g for ManU already?

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QUOTE(maximus85 @ Feb 11 2010, 10:55 AM)
kanebu... u work in london or study?

cilakak damn u can watch live matches... vmad.gif
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kanelee

i was suppose to be there for chelsea and liverpool game but my boss didn't approve my leave. unlucky for me but luckily my fren managed to sold back my tickets and my flight tickets got refund too. i made the arrangement way back in October, after raya, so i had time to refund the flight tickets too. if not, mati leh. hehehe

so envy u rite now.. i'm so wanna go Emirates to watch vs ManCiteh. Hopefully my boss will be kind and grant me the leave in April. muahahaha

btw.. did u guys know that Villa scores for ManU!??? fark it.. how many o.g for ManU already?
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Abt og for MU,I guess already reached 10 laugh.gif
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lucky MU had their 10th league og if not mistaken
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yep... 10th OG.. deng it...
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damn i love diaby...i saw him as viera...this is my 1st time watching arsenal in the early morning full time...b4 this, the tv is actually watching me...
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somehow i got a feeling FA won't let Fabregas get away wif that coz it's too clearly from the replay... he purposely raised his hand/arm to block the shot which looks very likely to curl into the top corner of the goal... it might just went in IF Fabregas did not blocked it...

but anyhow... he sort of raised his arm before the kick, Fabregas must had premonition... ph34r.gif
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QUOTE(maximus85 @ Feb 11 2010, 11:36 AM)
somehow i got a feeling FA won't let Fabregas get away wif that coz it's too clearly from the replay... he purposely raised his hand/arm to block the shot which looks very likely to curl into the top corner of the goal... it might just went in IF Fabregas did not blocked it...

but anyhow... he sort of raised his arm before the kick, Fabregas must had premonition... ph34r.gif
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Damn...I overslept and can only watch the highlight mad.gif
It's not ez to play top 4 teams in 3 successive weeks but the hell is past us. We don't havta face them anymore & they still gonna face each other.
Like AW said after the match, they'll sure to drop points here & there and it down to us to find the consistency for the remaining games.

Keep the faith..


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I was infront the TV, but somehow missed the controversy of Fab on the free kick. Selective vision probably.

The rule left some room for interpretation, ball hit arm or arm hit ball.
Hand in legit position or not legit.

But jumping without raising arm ain't efficient right?
And jumping to block ball with face is dumb to the fullest without arm protecting the fragile nose.
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lucky pool dont get penalty..in gerard mind "target:fab hand"..in ref mind "i know"..
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actually is not inside penalty box..
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The captain really shouldn't do that, it could be second yellow and a red and he'll be out for few next games. But it all started with Walcott giving away the ball at the other end. The team really should drill this kind of thing into their head. Anyway at the end of the day the team deserved their 3 points.
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We got the 3 points while the other 2 dropped points smile.gif
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we still obviously lack someone to bang in the goals sigh sigh
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Again, lady luck is with us...not only liverpool game, but also to man utd n chelsea. Very weird. Its not the first time arsenal won while the other big teams won in the same night.
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From the slow motion, is like Fab know Gerrard will shoot into his direction sweat.gif
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I don't think Cesc is to blame. He is trying to block his face, it's gerrard's shot after all. He is known to bang some hard ball into goals from as far as 40 yards. Any human will be scared if such a power were to hit the face.

Diaby's goal was a mixture of : pin point cross from Rosicky + Great positioning by Diaby + defender errors by the Liverpool.
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Agree nonetheless , Diaby is the man that I really want to see on the pitch nowadays . Not because of his goal , but he really did well in the midfield . Winning balls and passing well .

Aside Diaby's goal , I still think there are many occasions where we should have scored .

1. Arshavin's sitters .
2. Bendter's chance , however he was marked tightly .
3. Rosicky' chance , but spoiled by bad footing . It looks like he was payed by Liverpool . At least he redeemed himself after that .


Added on February 11, 2010, 2:13 pmOn addition , if Arshavin really play by bearing an injury , pity him . He worked really , really hard . This guy is awesome .

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QUOTE(chypher @ Feb 11 2010, 02:00 PM)
I don't think Cesc is to blame. He is trying to block his face, it's gerrard's shot after all. He is known to bang some hard ball into goals from as far as 40 yards. Any human will be scared if such a power were to hit the face.

Diaby's goal was a mixture of : pin point cross from Rosicky + Great positioning by Diaby + defender errors by the Liverpool.
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I don't know but to be fair, Fab might deserved a foul/card (not sure about penalty though). He seems like not blocking his face as
1) He raised his hand before Gerrard kicked the ball
2) and he raised it above his head
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QUOTE(chypher @ Feb 11 2010, 02:00 PM)
I don't think Cesc is to blame. He is trying to block his face, it's gerrard's shot after all. He is known to bang some hard ball into goals from as far as 40 yards. Any human will be scared if such a power were to hit the face.
To block his face ? U need to see the replay again I think. His hand was on top of his head la. & to raise Ur hand during a freekick (if Ur in the wall) is not in any teams defensive manual, I can assure U tht. Even when U defend a live ball in a penalty box also U shudn't raise Ur hand.

I'm not trying to put any blame on Fabregas here. Just that, we were very, very lucky in that sense this morning. Just think of wht would happen if Howard Webb gave them a freekick just at the edge of the box, or red-carded Fabregas for deliberate handball (he was already on a yellow), or worse.. penalty. Haih....

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From the slow motion, is like Fab know Gerrard will shoot into his direction  sweat.gif
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that's why i said... he got premonition sweat.gif
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Good and important win. Best news of the day for me after an annoying shift at work.

Football is unpredictable. Everton and Villa did us huge favours, this shows that no team can take their position for granted.

For those who kept faith in the team despite the previous 2 losses, this victory couldn't be any more sweet.

For those who lost their faith in the team, well wake up and support the team.

For those who hoped for us to lose just so they can prove themselves right, here's one up yours.
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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Feb 11 2010, 03:43 PM)
Good and important win. Best news of the day for me after an annoying shift at work.

Football is unpredictable. Everton and Villa did us huge favours, this shows that no team can take their position for granted.

For those who kept faith in the team despite the previous 2 losses, this victory couldn't be any more sweet.

For those who lost their faith in the team, well wake up and support the team.

For those who hoped for us to lose just so they can prove themselves right, here's one up yours.
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Lost a little faith I've, but that's because of Wenger's outrageous statements.
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Where's the thread logo lol ?
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QUOTE(tenno @ Feb 11 2010, 03:25 PM)
I'm not trying to put any blame on Fabregas here. Just that, we were very, very lucky in that sense this morning.
hope that Fabregas won't do the same mistake... and be a good lesson to him (still people can state any reasons but it remains with him what had happens this morning and what had mingle in his mind to acted like that)

more over after this Arsenal needs to concentrate with next game meet up with FC Porto is it?
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A good win.. Finally Arsenal has learned to win ugly rather than loosing beautifully
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I dont know what walcott was doing. He didnt what to do in most of the situation. Near the final minute,he gave the ball easily and wenger really pissed off. That error lead to the controcersial freekick. But fabregas was awesome in trying to mess up liverpool player
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QUOTE(Casanova88 @ Feb 11 2010, 04:26 PM)
A good win.. Finally Arsenal has learned to win ugly rather than loosing beautifully
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QUOTE(tenno @ Feb 11 2010, 03:25 PM)
To block his face ? U need to see the replay again I think. His hand was on top of his head la. & to raise Ur hand during a freekick (if Ur in the wall) is not in any teams defensive manual, I can assure U tht. Even when U defend a live ball in a penalty box also U shudn't raise Ur hand.

I'm not trying to put any blame on Fabregas here. Just that, we were very, very lucky in that sense this morning. Just think of wht would happen if Howard Webb gave them a freekick just at the edge of the box, or red-carded Fabregas for deliberate handball (he was already on a yellow), or worse.. penalty. Haih....
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agreed

what he did was quite silly imo
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Nice win this morning, didn't watch the game but was pleasantly surprised by results all round. Suddenly the title race is back on, even if there's only a slim chance of it. During the run-in we need to go all out in every game, even if it's against Wolves at home. Oh, and Walcott needs to up his game or risk being sold.

The perfect arena to redeem himself is the Champs League game next midweek. IMO Walcott should start, as he usually plays well in these European games.

Keep a good run in the Champs League and the season end could be interesting indeed.
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good but not the best win..at least i can kutuk mu n chlsea member..if we can keep playing like this,there is a trophy..fabregas play 'hard' today..keep the faith!↲Hoping high for sunderland game!

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QUOTE(Casanova88 @ Feb 11 2010, 04:26 PM)
A good win.. Finally Arsenal has learned to win ugly rather than loosing beautifully
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Diaby's goal was a beauty. We already knew how to win ugly (1-0 vs Fulham); in fact we could have scored more had we not squandered so many chances. Liverpool had theirs too but they didn't cherish it.

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good but not the best win..at least i can kutuk mu n chlsea member..
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sweet..being busy in office now..curi masa sikit to post biggrin.gif

go go gunners!
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Congratulations to the lads, they have done us proud biggrin.gif
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Looking at our fixtures and the fixtures for the other 2 contenders for the premiership, I'd say, we have a decent shot at the league trophy. Most of the hard games are already out of the way for us.

Am I too ambitious with that statement? No. We just better win it if we want any silverware this season. Because I'm not sure we can go very far in the CL.
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Lets don't talk abt winning the EPL Title. Its still far away plus Chelsea & MU are ahead of us.
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lol at arsenal fan who happy at the win.

your fabregas is a cheating *******
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QUOTE(Casanova88 @ Feb 11 2010, 06:05 PM)
Lets don't talk abt winning the EPL Title. Its still far away plus Chelsea & MU are ahead of us.
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lol at arsenal fan who happy at the win.

your fabregas is a cheating *******
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look who's talking..

gerrard acts like he has been shot down..

in the penalty box.. he ran into diaby n acts as if diaby fouled him..

n the final free kick? it wasnt even a free kick..

talk about cheating whistling.gif
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lol at arsenal fan who happy at the win.

your fabregas is a cheating *******
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Why do you say so ? Justification ?

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look who's talking..

gerrard acts like he has been shot down..

in the penalty box.. he ran into diaby n acts as if diaby fouled him..

n the final free kick? it wasnt even a free kick..

talk about cheating  whistling.gif
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hate to remind you but.. the foul was on kuyt not gerrard.
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hate to remind you but.. the foul was on kuyt  not gerrard.
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but... WHO FARKING CARES??!! LOL rclxm9.gif we bag the 3 points... and u all got telur whistling.gif instead of taunting us, u should be worrying about ur CL spot next season...

gogogo Manchester City... oh please... i swear to God i'll be the first to post at ur thread when Liverpool got kick out of top 4 at the end of the season... rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(anip94 @ Feb 11 2010, 06:43 PM)
hate to remind you but.. the foul was on kuyt  not gerrard.
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QUOTE(anip94 @ Feb 11 2010, 06:43 PM)
hate to remind you but.. the foul was on kuyt  not gerrard.
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who cares who cheat who...? result is the one that talk the loudest.... so, lets just end the discussion.

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QUOTE(anip94 @ Feb 11 2010, 06:05 PM)
lol at arsenal fan who happy at the win.

your fabregas is a cheating *******
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calm dude, let him be.
anyway it is nice to have such big space for us to pass the ball around, i dun see that in previous match
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lol.now that we win,our thread has been haunted by sore loser.why can't this thread be in harmony?

anyway,woke up after second half started.too bad i didn't watch the game cuz my college's cafe not allow us to watch football in wee hours anymore.only follow through yahoo live commentator.and when i see the word goal i screamed out loud alone in my room. laugh.gif


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i want to congratulate everton but since i cant find everton's thread - i definitely cannot say it in the liverpool or chelsea thread so i just post here


WELL DONE EVERTON!!!!!!!
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lucas help us played and passed ball well...he look like dont event existed in the game..heh
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QUOTE(anip94 @ Feb 11 2010, 06:05 PM)
lol at arsenal fan who happy at the win.

your fabregas is a cheating *******
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Wake up and smell the coffee la..sour grapes doesn't taste nice.Then u expect Arsenal fans to 'mourn' the win ah?Don't play the high morality ground when the free kick that led to the so called 'penalty claim' wasn't a free kick to begin with.Keep all ur cursing/injustice feeling to ur own thread la.

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ignore him is the best way to keep peace in our thread. but sometimes, patience also got limit

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QUOTE(anip94 @ Feb 11 2010, 06:43 PM)
hate to remind you but.. the foul was on kuyt  not gerrard.
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QUOTE(repeater @ Feb 11 2010, 08:27 PM)
i want to congratulate everton but since i cant find everton's thread - i definitely cannot say it in the liverpool or chelsea thread so i just post here
WELL DONE EVERTON!!!!!!!
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where's beandy???damn bleh snyp plk....no manners at all...when arsenal lose he'll be the 1st one to go all guns blazing...then after we won don't want to acknowledge.....at least the other person posted.....
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Very happy with the win finally smile.gif after 3 straight winless match.

Glad i actually wake up at 4am to watch.Was very sleepy but it all made up after Diaby goal.

I always thaught Arshavin will be the one to score laugh.gif
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oyeah..moyes really did a great job..chelsea lucky saha not hatrick..tongue.gif
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haha EPL top four. Credit to the creator, but I take it from Chelsea thread. Although fourth place is much more open for grab, at the end of the season I still think it'll be the usual suspects.

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I'm sure if a normal genius like me can see that when you play Bendtner up front, it frees up Arshavin and lets him to what he does best while also offering much more threat in attack in the form of Bendtner himself, so can a super genius like Wenger.

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But seriously, until RVP returns, start Bendtner! The guy is confident, isnt afraid to shoot, can head, and has some bloody good link-up play.
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bendtner is industrious IMHO.
he's very hardworking
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Concern over injuries to Song and Arshavin

ah? song is injured?
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yup..but he could return for porto game
crucial game
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At last a in for Arsenal after back to back defeats.

An assessment of the game: We played MUCH better than we played at ManU and Chelsea.Though for the Chelsea game,we went up against a discipline defence.

Song and Diaby I think is the new central midfielder pairing and i think the best,better than Song and Denilson,cause they just break up play and really link up well with attack right now.Denilson I think is going through the pahse that Nani goes through:played bad for a few games,demoted or rest by the manager,comes back with a bang.

Good luck on the next one for us then.Porto right?And after that?
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After Porto game is against Sunderland at Emirates .
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We need to get back at em for defeating us at The Stad of Light.
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bendtner as a focal point...i can see arshavin was more comfortable last nite with a central forward in front of him...
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QUOTE(QuickFire @ Feb 11 2010, 11:45 PM)
I'm sure if a normal genius like me can see that when you play Bendtner up front, it frees up Arshavin and lets him to what he does best while also offering much more threat in attack in the form of Bendtner himself, so can a super genius like Wenger.

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But seriously, until RVP returns, start Bendtner! The guy is confident, isnt afraid to shoot, can head, and has some bloody good link-up play.
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As long as Nik is fit, he will start. Either as a centre forward or on the right doesn't matter; the dynamism of our forwards' movement is more important than their starting position.
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pick this up from soccernet.com in the fans correspondent section :-

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http://blogs.soccernet.com/boltonwanderers...ck_wilshire.php

having read this, i downloaded the game and true enough, Wilshere did have a good game. hopefully he can stay healthy and get more games. Probably help them stay up.. and yeah, i agree with the writer... walcott should be worried. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(sakaito @ Feb 12 2010, 09:00 AM)
pick this up from soccernet.com in the fans correspondent section :-
http://blogs.soccernet.com/boltonwanderers...ck_wilshire.php

having read this, i downloaded the game and true enough, Wilshere did have a good game. hopefully he can stay healthy and get more games. Probably help them stay up.. and yeah, i agree with the writer... walcott should be worried. biggrin.gif
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Bro, I have a feeling Walcott is already worried... Coz even Eboue offered more of a threat than him!!

And bro... The whole Diaby thing last year just proves that Arsene knows more than any of us!! laugh.gif


Added on February 12, 2010, 9:24 amOh and that whole "Fabregas' little toe was on the line, that's why it should be a penalty" thing...

I don't get it.

I'm no expert and (as usual) I'm too lazy to research, so let me just use logic here.

Let's take another scenario as an example - If the ball was in the field of play, but the player is outside the touch line, but prevented the ball from going across, the ball is still in play right?

So if the ball was outside the penalty box, and Cesc handled it outside, but his foot was on the line, why should it be a penalty? The ball was outside the penalty box right?

Same thing should apply!

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I guess we should slam walcott like how diaby and song got slammed previously..so he could improve like them thumbup.gif just joking laugh.gif
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bendtner is still need to work harder to be a good striker...
But to play bendtner as striker is definitely more attack options then play arshavin as a lone striker...
Saha is so good, how nice if we got Saha, but without injury one... >"<

wow, cashley cole injured 3 months, dono got effect on world cup o not blush.gif

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Walcott is still young. I'll prefer him any time of the day than Lennon. He's improving. Having the no. 14 shirt is not an easy task for any teenager, I'm sure he'll be superb not just for Arsenal but for England in future. May be and just may be, he'l blossom at the end of the season.
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QUOTE(RyanAtwood @ Feb 11 2010, 10:21 PM)
where's beandy???damn bleh snyp plk....no manners at all...when arsenal lose he'll be the 1st one to go all guns blazing...then after we won don't want to acknowledge.....at least the other person posted.....
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what Gunners needs to do now is concentrate on playing against FC Porto after that Sunderland... hope Arshavin, Song, Diaby and Bendtner 100% fit... others player also...
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QUOTE(tenno @ Feb 11 2010, 03:25 PM)
To block his face ? U need to see the replay again I think. His hand was on top of his head la. & to raise Ur hand during a freekick (if Ur in the wall) is not in any teams defensive manual, I can assure U tht. Even when U defend a live ball in a penalty box also U shudn't raise Ur hand.

I'm not trying to put any blame on Fabregas here. Just that, we were very, very lucky in that sense this morning. Just think of wht would happen if Howard Webb gave them a freekick just at the edge of the box, or red-carded Fabregas for deliberate handball (he was already on a yellow), or worse.. penalty. Haih....
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wow, cashley cole injured 3 months, dono got effect on world cup o not  blush.gif
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Honestly if you ask me, Walcott is too one dimensional. I've said it before and to many other friends, he's over rated and besides his speed, he offers literally nothing. And really, when he's pitched next to equally fast fullbacks like Evra, he's nullified very easily. I think we've been too patient with him, Wenger keep saying he needs time but im afraid he doesn't have hell lots of time to develop, especially the standard of rising stars in EPL are getting younger and younger at 18 and above. Theo's already 21 i think.

With Eboue, i think he's prolly one of those supersub type of players. Put him in extended games, he wont shine as much as being a super sub and coming in as a player that could bring an extra something to the team. One thing i must comment about Arsenal is their tendency to overplay in the final third of the pitch. You look at the game against Man Utd and Chelsea and how we failed miserably in the final third where Cesc, Rosicky, Nasri and Arshavin seems not interested to hit and try abit too much intricate play. There's excessive passing in the attacking section while exposing themselves dearly in counter attack. That was exactly how we got hit by Man Utd and the Chelsea's 2nd goal.

And yeah, got to agree with you guys, NB52 may not be the most clinical striker but what he does quite effectively is to drag the defender away and put other players into play. Thats exactly what Eboue does and there will be matches where we need to play Eboue and NB52 to drag defenders out of position. There will be matches where we need a more one touch approach. Finding the balance is important.

Anyways, the Liverpool win was a massive result, much like how we overturn the Chelsea 3-0 bashing we took and then turning it around with a 2-1 win at Liverpool. Good news is that we dont have to face the big 3 again towards the end of the season altho smaller teams still do pose a threat.
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anyhow it it important to maintain consistency..
although the big 3 game is no longer needed, but the threat from other smaller clubs need not to be taken lightly
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it's good that if we can beat all the remaining opponents
even if by so we still can't win the premiership i'll still be very happy and satisfied
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well that's because to win or not depends on how the 2 leading teams doing in coming fixtures
so we can only do our best and win all the remaining matches and see how things go
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next 7 games relatively easy...but cant take it lightly..will be great if can win all the 7 games and gain 21 points out of it.....
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i'm back in malaysia for the holidays =) and i'm so so happy tht we won against liverpool since our past few games have been pretty sucky. hopefully we keep winning, and let mu and chelsea slip a bit =P
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N52 on the Liverpool games gives us more dimension to atk. His height and long legs does helps alot. He can wrestle defenders to reach a through pass which is very crucial. He is tall and CB's will be aware of any long balls and crosses even dou its Sagna.

Suddendly i feel Walcott place in England gonna be overtaken by Adam Johnson. I watched the M. City game. God, he is good. An english that able to perform quick step overs and confidence to take on defenders with a good left foot pairing with a right which able to produce a decent cross.
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ive always criticize walcott for his ability, like what giotto mentioned.
he is all in pacey player..arguably the fastest in BPL either that top 3
to me he is good in overlapping defenders and making tru ball runs.

vince777, dont say adam johnson ler
philips,lennon,beckham,joe cole...alot more~
pecking order i dont know he what number lol.

i really hope he up his game, since the time he was dubbed as the new owen or something
its been 2 years or more already....he is still the same, maybe its because of his injuries.
i want us to have deadly wingers like we used to have.


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Between Gabby and Walcott, Ill choose Gabby just because he has muscles at the same time has the same (or more) pace than Walcott.
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QUOTE(giotto @ Feb 12 2010, 11:21 AM)
Honestly if you ask me, Walcott is too one dimensional. I've said it before and to many other friends, he's over rated and besides his speed, he offers literally nothing. And really, when he's pitched next to equally fast fullbacks like Evra, he's nullified very easily. I think we've been too patient with him, Wenger keep saying he needs time but im afraid he doesn't have hell lots of time to develop, especially the standard of rising stars in EPL are getting younger and younger at 18 and above. Theo's already 21 i think.
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Theo is only overrated because of his nationality and early fame. I've never rated him as highly as many did, yet at the same time I've always kept the belief that he's not the finished product and will one day become our striker up front and not a winger. His pace needs no further introduction, but he has other ingredients to be a good striker. Note how he strokes the ball or shapes his body for a shot whenever he's in position. Very Thierryesque. His decision making is dubious at times, but with Song and Diaby as examples Arsene has already proven many wrong; hence I'm going with le Boss on this one.

Until Theo gets a regular run in the team, and in his most suitable position up front (preferably on the left side like Titi); I don't think we are able to call in the jury.
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lol at you who kenot accept defeat
u r like pot calling kettle black..your captain has been cheating consistently throughout the season..sikit2 mau dive here and there hoping for freekicks or penalty
btw how old are you? 16?
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theo>thierry ? when??

hmm i hope that boy grown to be like our legend
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QUOTE(leymar7 @ Feb 12 2010, 10:38 PM)
theo>thierry ? when??

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if only its that simple....

in that case can Gallas play all those precise through pass? or score brilliant curling shots from outside the box.....considering he's wearing number 10 tongue.gif

just joking bro....don't take it serious ok.....

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me too. happy chinese new year to all gonners in LYN..biggrin.gif

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guys,no highlight from the game?
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happy cny to all lyn gooners here!gong xi fa cai,hong bao na lai!! biggrin.gif forget to mention happy valentine days to the couples out there!

anyway i bumped into these highlights..

Arsenal vs Liverpool MOTD

Rapidshare / Mediafire

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QUOTE(Aeroberg @ Feb 12 2010, 11:52 PM)
if only its that simple....

in that case can Gallas play all those precise through pass? or score brilliant curling shots from outside the box.....considering he's wearing number 10 tongue.gif

just joking bro....don't take it serious ok.....

like to take this oppourtunity here to wish everyone a very happy Chinese New Year icon_rolleyes.gif
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Gong Hi Fatt Chai to all chinese gooners.
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If theo needed to emulate our king, AW have to start playing him onthe left so he can cut in and shot. With theo playin on the right, theo lack of creativity will only force him to use his speed and sprint across the line to deliver a poor cross. Playing on the left will at least let him think and be more creative instead of a one way run.

Previosly we was ard at the back of the pecking order behind Lennon, Beck, Cole and now Johnson is getting in his way.

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QUOTE(kaka91 @ Feb 12 2010, 05:34 PM)
i'm back in malaysia for the holidays =) and i'm so so happy tht we won against liverpool since our past few games have been pretty sucky. hopefully we keep winning, and let mu and chelsea slip a bit =P
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QUOTE(kanelee @ Feb 13 2010, 12:00 AM)
happy cny to all lyn gooners here!gong xi fa cai,hong bao na lai!! biggrin.gif forget to mention happy valentine days to the couples out there!

anyway i bumped into these highlights..

Arsenal vs Liverpool MOTD

Rapidshare / Mediafire
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We have yet to solve our problem and the opponents knew our biggest problem- a perfect striker. A good striker IMO is someone like drogba and rooney... besides being able to do good and fast runs, they can strike at any single slightest opportunity to score a goal, and most importantly, they are hard as shield and able to charge at anyone to make him fall or remained stable when charged by others. What makes Drogba different from other strikers... Look at the previous match against us, he's so ahrd that he can charge into 3 palyers and still score the 2nd goal.... with a single hand, he's able to push our defenders back....

We need a good striker.
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Happy CNY Gooners !
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happy chinese new year gunners!
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all of a sudden we're back in the title race again... albeit being very far from the leading pack. but you know what, how many times this season have we thought that everything is lost and gone, then suddenly all our rivals falter? this week chelsea and spurs lost, man utd drew. i'm sure you can at least remember at least 2 more occasions like this.

if we have this same events again in the next week of football, we're surely back in the game. terry's form is torrid, i cant believe the manner in which saha scored. wth was terry thinking? n then cole getting injured hahaha it gets better n better doesnt it? now there's a case in the back for england. terry and ferdinand not up to full fitness, cole out, bridge and terry potential rife, no real quality GK... hoo glad i'm not an england supporter.
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wishing all gunners Happy New Year & Happy holiday

go check your air batery, tayar pressure, minyak itam, water liao before jalan2.


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go check your air batery, tayar pressure, minyak itam, water liao before jalan2.
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all of a sudden we're back in the title race again... albeit being very far from the leading pack. but you know what, how many times this season have we thought that everything is lost and gone, then suddenly all our rivals falter? this week chelsea and spurs lost, man utd drew. i'm sure you can at least remember at least 2 more occasions like this.

if we have this same events again in the next week of football, we're surely back in the game. terry's form is torrid, i cant believe the manner in which saha scored. wth was terry thinking? n then cole getting injured hahaha it gets better n better doesnt it? now there's a case in the back for england. terry and ferdinand not up to full fitness, cole out, bridge and terry potential rife, no real quality GK... hoo glad i'm not an england supporter.
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QUOTE(Thumpy Ick @ Feb 13 2010, 09:36 AM)
all of a sudden we're back in the title race again... albeit being very far from the leading pack. but you know what, how many times this season have we thought that everything is lost and gone, then suddenly all our rivals falter? this week chelsea and spurs lost, man utd drew. i'm sure you can at least remember at least 2 more occasions like this.

if we have this same events again in the next week of football, we're surely back in the game. terry's form is torrid, i cant believe the manner in which saha scored. wth was terry thinking? n then cole getting injured hahaha it gets better n better doesnt it? now there's a case in the back for england. terry and ferdinand not up to full fitness, cole out, bridge and terry potential rife, no real quality GK... hoo glad i'm not an england supporter.
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liverpool might have advantage on this as they only compete in the europa league ...
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I don't know whether this source is reliable. The Sun. sighs.

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I don't know whether this source is reliable. The Sun. sighs.

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i think the deal is not comfirm yet because there is nothing on other football website like soccernet or skysports, and the most important there's no official statement from Arsenal.com
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u guys seriously lol

Maroune chamakh says yes to join gunners

on the right side the article

chamakh not a gunners yet

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we're paying 10M for a free agent?
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maybe the 10M is the total worth of the contract not the transfer fee.
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maybe the 10M is the total worth of the contract not the transfer fee.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...senal-deal.html

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i just hope he will be chamakh instead of adebayor

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not to say im putting high expectation on him
but on the clips we saw on him,
and his presence
i like the fact that he is quick tall and agile.
i think his footwork is great as well

he really looks good
so atm im giving him the benefit of what i see laugh.gif
resemble a torress? what u guys think..

well only time will tell.
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It's funny how the tabloids are confidently reporting the capture of Chamakh for this summer, while both clubs and player are keeping mum on this. There's no smoke without fire; I'm sure something is going on under the table, but until Chamakh pulls on the red-white he's not a gunner just yet.

Most of us have only seen him on youtube clips, and personally I'm not particularly impressed. There are glimpses of his abilities, such as a strong upper body physique, tricky dribbling feet, and a fairly decent burst of speed as well. His finishing however doesn't seem to be any better than our current players and his statistics have yet to impress anyone (to be fair this could be due to Bordeaux's style).
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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Feb 14 2010, 09:05 AM)

Most of us have only seen him on youtube clips, and personally I'm not particularly impressed. There are glimpses of his abilities, such as a strong upper body physique, tricky dribbling feet, and a fairly decent burst of speed as well. His finishing however doesn't seem to be any better than our current players and his statistics have yet to impress anyone (to be fair this could be due to Bordeaux's style).
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when la harzard wan come here..
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Oh yes and Denilson is the scapegoat at present. And I have no problem in admitting that he wasn’t at his best against United. But the way they are moaning on about him is disgusting.

Denilson last season had 51 games in total in which he scored 3 goals. This season he played 17 games in total and scored 5 goals. I think this is not a bad statistic for a midfielder who mostly plays in a more holding role.

I bet those fans didn’t cheer when Denilson gave us some vital goals this season like against Everton, Hull and our first goal this season the cracking shot at Everton and his shot against Standard in the CL.

And we have to remember that he got a very serious back injury early September which kept him out for a large part of  the season. And when he came back he was thrown right in to it. He even literally fell to peaces in one game, had a short rest and had to play again as Song was away and Diaby was also injured.

So yes it could well be that Denilson wasn’t playing his best the last weeks but he is a human being and not a robot or a player in some kind of computer game where you can modify your player with a mouse click. He just has to get back to his fitness level and all players need time to start performing again when they have been out for such a long time.

With the possibility of Song being ruled out for some games it could be that Denilson comes back in the team. So why don’t we just get off is back and give him the chance to become the player that Wenger has seen in him. Do I really need to bring up the names like Diaby, Song and even Eboue who has become a better player under the guidance of Wenger.

http://blog.emiratesstadium.info/2010/02/a...ampions-league/
Like I always say, people tend to give Denilson too much flak. Having said that, at the moment I think Diaby deserves to start ahead of Denilson as the former provides more physical guile and scoring chances. I'd rather see Denilson slowly eased back into the team and regaining his form, rather than straight away being thrown back into crucial, hardcore matches. After all, the vertebral injury is not unlike that which kept Gil out for so long.

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You know who you are.
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eh? how come our emblem hilang ah?
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i rather have chamakh for free. at least, if he is a flop, we can sell him to generate fund. like voronin.
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Wenger - Diaby has improved tremendously

i always believe diaby is one who can improve while others were bashing him previously
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for van persie case, I can say he's been unlucky tis season haih"

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braca wont stop it seems....
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/14022010/58/...y-60m-cesc.html

we should sell cesc to madrid just to f**k around with barca....we ask for KAKA+40mil for cesc...that would be awesome!!!!

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braca wont stop it seems....
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/14022010/58/...y-60m-cesc.html

we should sell cesc to madrid just to f**k around with barca....we ask for KAKA+40mil for cesc...that would be awesome!!!!
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QUOTE(super messi @ Feb 14 2010, 09:55 PM)
braca wont stop it seems....
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/14022010/58/...y-60m-cesc.html

we should sell cesc to madrid just to f**k around with barca....we ask for KAKA+40mil for cesc...that would be awesome!!!!
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just tell barca this..xavi+iniesta+messi+100m or GTFO laugh.gif
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QUOTE(sakaito @ Feb 15 2010, 12:30 AM)
no way man... Kaka is has been... if we were to get anything from Madrid, i'd say Van De Vaart + Metzelder +40Mil. biggrin.gif hahahahahaha
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no way...KAKA is still have a few good years in him...maybe KAKA+ Higuaín +20mil...hahaha
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no way...KAKA is still have a few good years in him...maybe KAKA+ Higuaín +20mil...hahaha
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and w/o fab, who we can rely at midfield?? denilson?? nasri??

perhaps we hv ramsey, but he is simply not ready yet - or shud i say he will never ready... arsenal bleh ttp kedai klu jual fab..

org len klu off-form, sume stat mls2, tgu mse je wenger substitute... klu fab off-form, dia force diri sket.. at least contribute utk kejar2 bola as wat song did... fab mmg superb..
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yeah diaby is now in da zone, shame on all who bash him previously.
for van persie case, I can say he's been unlucky tis season haih"
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He still not effective against teams like MU & Chelsea.
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Huhu... Just because he scored against Liverpool doesn't mean he is  good/key player.

He still not effective against teams like MU & Chelsea.
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He's no Viera, but he's getting the job done. He's been decent, and still learning. Coming back from that injury would not be easy for any youngster. He has overcome it.

Don't think you've observed him enough, may be your judgement is disillusioned by just one two games which we've lost. Beside Fabregas and Song, i'll rate him 3rd best midfielder in our squad.
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QUOTE(Casanova88 @ Feb 15 2010, 02:22 PM)
Huhu... Just because he scored against Liverpool doesn't mean he is  good/key player.

He still not effective against teams like MU & Chelsea.
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something posted in arseblog... watch it.. damn nice.. really credits to the producer...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8oGGm13qWo

oh ya.. watch it in 720p HD. argh.. damn it! i was supposed to be there! vmad.gif cry.gif cry.gif

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Huhu... Just because he scored against Liverpool doesn't mean he is  good/key player.

He still not effective against teams like MU & Chelsea.
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something posted in arseblog... watch it.. damn nice.. really credits to the producer...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8oGGm13qWo

oh ya.. watch it in 720p HD. argh.. damn it! i was supposed to be there!  vmad.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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Oh wait, I went last year! tongue.gif (Sorry sakaito, I just had to rub it in)
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QUOTE(Zan81 @ Feb 15 2010, 10:54 PM)
Sigh... Wish I can go...  sad.gif  sad.gif  sad.gif

Oh wait, I went last year!  tongue.gif (Sorry sakaito, I just had to rub it in)
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QUOTE(Zan81 @ Feb 15 2010, 10:54 PM)
Sigh... Wish I can go...  sad.gif  sad.gif  sad.gif

Oh wait, I went last year!  tongue.gif (Sorry sakaito, I just had to rub it in)
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nah.. it's ok.. i'm eyeing for the last game of the season vs Fulham at Emirates. May 9th. fuh fuh... flex.gif flex.gif hopefully we'll be lifting EPL trophy by the end of the game. ahahahahahha tongue.gif

btw.. since there's no game for the 1st team, watch the reserves. We won against Chelsea 2-1 and Sunu looked really impressive. Also, Barazite is back. rclxms.gif

on to Porto preview tomorrow, it's silly to think that AW didn't take this seriously. ECL is a good chance for us this season. Win this and win at Emirates ensure us going to last 8. Porto has been poor this year but they are on a 12 game unbeaten streak. That's something to ponder about. Although they failed to score in their last game, the 4 games before that they've won 3-0, 4-0, 2-0 and draw 2-2. So, their defense is quite good and things have started to come together for them. If i'm AW, i'd be worry about their midfield. They are very physical and very industrious. Also Falcao seems to be on form at the moment.

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Channel:  ESPN (812)
Date:  Thursday, February 18, 2010
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First Knock-Out Round, Leg #1 : Porto vs. Arsenal

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Alex Song, Andrey Arshavin, William Gallas, Manuel Almunia and Eduardo have not made the trip to Portugal. Long-term absentees Robin Van Persie, Kieran Gibbs and Johan Djourou are also absent but Carlos Vela returns from a knee injury.

Arsenal squad:

Lukasz Fabianski
Vito Mannone
Nicklas Bendtner
Carlos Vela
Theo Walcott
Samir Nasri
Denilson
Aaron Ramsey
Tomas Rosicky
Abou Diaby
Cesc Fabregas
Gael Clichy
Thomas Vermaelen
Emmanuel Eboue
Mikael Silvestre
Sol Campbell
Armand Traore
Bacary Sagna

I have no confident in Fabianski but I have faith in Mannone. I think Gallas and Vermaelen should be rested but heck. Porto should not be underestimated
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Don't worry, we still have Sol Campbell, Diaby, Nasri, Mannone and Bendtner. biggrin.gif

This lineup perhaps?

------ Nasri - Bendtner - Rosicky
--------- Fabregas - Eboue
----------------- Diaby
Clichy - TV - Campbell - Sagna
--------------- Mannone

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QUOTE(Dashken @ Feb 17 2010, 01:50 AM)
Don't worry, we still have Sol Campbell, Diaby, Nasri, Mannone and Bendtner. biggrin.gif

This lineup perhaps?

------ Nasri - Bendtner - Rosicky
--------- Fabregas - Eboue
----------------- Diaby
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--------------- Mannone
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rosicksy as a wing striker??? hurmm... still curios....
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rosicksy as a wing striker??? hurmm... still curios....
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Haha!I went that day.but the atmosphere that day was to be honest..kinda dull to me  sweat.gif
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TBH, some of the fans upstairs can be a bit... quiet. The fellas on the lower deck seem to be having a better time.

But still, it was one heck of an experience and I don't mind doing the pilgremage again! Just to take in the surroundings, the pristine grass, the peculiar fans, the crazy vendors outside, the club shop, waiting outside for the players to drive out... It was f**king brilliant!!

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i agree to most of u guys..I'll pick Mannone enytime over Fabianksi
Fabianski had proved he is really prone to make mistake, while Mannone, due to his inexperience collected 1 mistakes per game, however making more than enough good saves.

and quite a good article to share for fellow gooners..
describing why we can't be super club in the next few years

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QUOTE(Zan81 @ Feb 17 2010, 10:41 AM)
Yeah... I sat at the last row during Arsenal vs Boro last year.

TBH, some of the fans upstairs can be a bit... quiet. The fellas on the lower deck seem to be having a better time.

But still, it was one heck of an experience and I don't mind doing the pilgremage again! Just to take in the surroundings, the pristine grass, the peculiar fans, the crazy vendors outside, the club shop, waiting outside for the players to drive out... It was f**king brilliant!!

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i'm so jealous of u tht u got to go in emirates!! wish i can do tht in the near future...
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QUOTE(zzub @ Feb 17 2010, 10:29 AM)
i dont see any problem there.. it good to fit in rosicky there because he's a player who got an eye on the goal and he like to come deep to collect the ball and create a lot of space for the others... he should be fine there and exchanging position with nasri...  smile.gif
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Once you graduate and you have your specialist degree, your income can tapao all of us and you can go at least 3 times a year.  tongue.gif
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on to recent news...

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id...england&cc=4716

and injury update...

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id...sleague&cc=4716

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Yeah... I sat at the last row during Arsenal vs Boro last year.

TBH, some of the fans upstairs can be a bit... quiet. The fellas on the lower deck seem to be having a better time.

But still, it was one heck of an experience and I don't mind doing the pilgremage again! Just to take in the surroundings, the pristine grass, the peculiar fans, the crazy vendors outside, the club shop, waiting outside for the players to drive out... It was f**king brilliant!!

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I would be very happy to sponsor if I am some billionaire's son or something, but I am not tongue.gif

I am also planning for a trip to Emirates Stadium... in 2-3 years time~ shakehead.gif Don't play play with Pound Sterling.
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Save energy for this weekend. I see the top 2 dropping points to concentrate their ecl. Bring Porto back to emirates and we will get through
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Save energy for this weekend. I see the top 2 dropping points to concentrate their ecl. Bring Porto back to emirates and we will get through
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Porto's place is quite invincible. United was lucky last year due to Ronaldo's strike.
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Dam it, I would watch but I got class early in the morning tmoro sad.gif

Maybe I should just sleep in class haha.

EDIT: I forgot Helton is their goalkeeper. He jumps around like a monkey!

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I think that is a positive comment
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I'm also fine with 1-1 considering that we are missing a few first team players and playing away.
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Gong Xi! Gong Xi gooners! ;-) .. Porto Arsenal dun sleep yet! Aha..
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Gong Xi! Gong Xi gooners! ;-) .. Porto Arsenal dun sleep yet! Aha..
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Added on February 18, 2010, 3:58 amgoal.. mistake by fabianski

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poor def by clichy again
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good job Sol...

and fark Fabianski... even my secondary school goalkeeper won't make that mistake... such a simple catch i think my 90yo grandpa also manage to catch...

plz put this farker into the Reserve Team for the rest of his life
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Rosicky gaining back his confident level... great stuff from the right flank
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at least got away goal.. another 45 minute.. this gonna be a heated game
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rough encounter down there...

both team's players went down too easily i think...


Added on February 18, 2010, 4:35 ami can't believe Sol still has it in him... great use of his body size..

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i tink ref is more on our side..:>
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1st half summary

WTF Lukasz???!!???

Welcome back Sol

and by the looks of things i.e. Porto tried to kick Cesc out of the game, i am anticipating a red card in this match. but unfortunately for us, Cesc is among those likely candidates to get 1


Added on February 18, 2010, 4:41 amand lay off Gael for their goal, it was a brilliant piece of skill from their Silvestre

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QUOTE(toshio14 @ Feb 18 2010, 04:40 AM)
1st half summary

WTF Lukasz???!!???

Welcome back Sol

and by the looks of things i.e. Porto tried to kick Cesc out of the game, i am anticipating a red card in this match. but unfortunately for us, Cesc is among those likely candidates to get 1


Added on February 18, 2010, 4:41 amand lay off Gael for their goal, it was a brilliant piece of skill from their Silvestre
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Well, MOTM atm is Campbell.... surprisingly.
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2-1... =( come on arsenal!!
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FABIANSKI AGAIN!!!

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... and who said referee is on our side? It's a stupid decision from the referee!
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Sol did touched the ball... but the referee... WTF?? its like the player just pick back up the ball and kick it in without everyone even know wat's going on or whether the referee actually blown for that Sol's foul!! WTF IS THIS???!!!
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The position of the "freekick" is very sensitive, the referee should be more aware of what's happening about it.

Furthermore, I didn't see any Porto player acknowledged the referee that there's a quick freekick doh.gif stupid referee!

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i dun think the referee even said anything!

further more no whistle blow or wat so ever... how can that be legal??
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shooting ur own foot again eh...arsenal...always by own stupidity

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Added on February 18, 2010, 5:07 amGod damn it... now even when Porto players made some soft and simple kick from the outside also i'm scare that it might goes in... thanks to Fabianski stupidity

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Fabregas is their target... they are trying to get him off (for this match or the next) shakehead.gif
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fabianski's a major disaster tonite...denilson can't play shit man...


Added on February 18, 2010, 5:12 amfark this puta porto players...they're trying to get ppl injured here

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I really don't have good feeling about these Porto players shakehead.gif

... and the referee should get MOTM


Added on February 18, 2010, 5:27 amBendtner off ??? ... for Vela

Vela, Walcott and Nasri upfront.... I cannot imagine how they can cope with the rough challenges doh.gif

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Seems like the moment we cross the half pitch line... we just kept passing the ball back to Porto players sad.gif
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arsenal losing ball left and right...very2 poor performance...no shot on goal for the last 30 mins...

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Diaby shoot la !@!#$
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stupid keeper...amateur performance....
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hiyaaaa.. again.. fabregas performance has gone down these last few games.
i hope next time eboue got to start..
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Well...

1. MOTM = referee
2. We are still naive
3. We can't cross and finish (what's the use to beat opponent fullback when you could not cross probably)
4. Porto should play in EPL
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^^!* la Wenger and the board, 1000000x times fans tell you to buy new striker. Campbell perform good. 2nd goal is stupid, the ref put the ball without blow whistle and suddenly.. no shoot in 2nd half wHY WTF?
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we could've won if not for the ridiculous errors made by the team, the goals by Porto could be saved.
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hiyaaaa.. again.. fabregas performance has gone down these last few games.
i hope next time eboue got to start..
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The same goes to Clichy. I think he's struggling and his confidence has gone down too while trying to defend.
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Collectively we have the worst bunch of goalkeepers in the Champions League and possibly even in the BPL IMO. Simply not good enough.

Arsene simply has to buy a new No.1 in the summer otherwise its curtains again before the season starts. Its not that I'm being pessimistic about our goalkeepers' ability but sometimes we just have to face up to the reality that certain players are just not good enough.

Nasri and Denilson again with virtually zero contribution. Seriously this same squad will most likely struggle again against Sunderland this weekend. No cutting edge up front no nothing. Pray hard the likes of Song and Arshavin recovers in time.

The only shining light tonight was Sol's performance. Really turning back the clock. I doubt Gallas could have done any better than what Sol did tonight.
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Disappointed in Denilson and Walcott.

But something fishy is going on, Arsene doesn't react when Porto scored the first goal and his biggrin.gif face after the match. = =
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Both of goals conceded because Fabianski lack of experience. He forgot about the rule? And he must thought Falcao goal disallowed, i can see he confused.
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My god, one word for this performance, utter disgrace to the Arsenal badge, shirt and club.

What I don't like is how the players play, they pass around and run around like they treating this as an exhibition or something, like they already guaranteed a place in the next round or going to win big during the home leg doh.gif No heart to play to put it simple. AW really need to knock some sense into the players, they should treat every single match with respect, in football there nothing guarantee, there no guarantee that we can 100% win by 2 goal or 3 in the 2nd leg game, somehow the players don't see that.

Anyway, on the plus side, Campbell is my Arsenal MOTM, it been a long long long time since I see an Arsenal defender that I have confident in, Campbell is the major reason we haven't conceded more, the Porto player that he is marking is totally silent out.

And the negative side, what the hell is Fabianski doing in tht match? If he always perform like that, I rather let Mannone play than him. Come on, most of his mistake is like among the worse mistake a goalkeeper can make. doh.gif
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final score

Porto (read : Lukasz Fabianzki) 2 - 1 Arsenal

as a whole, that was an awful performances from the whole team bar Bakary who i thought was excellent and Sol who IMO proving to be a more than able cover for the central defensive area
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hopefully we could turn the table around in the next tie

just don't let our back wide open for porto's counter
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As long Campbell is in the 2nd leg, and Fabiski is out, it should be safe at the back I guess, what worry me is the front.

I totally don't know what happen to all our attacking players lately, utter disgrace to Arsenal, they either pass the ball endlessly among themselves or pass it into the opponent.

Seriously, I know the team can do way way better than this, but don't know why they play like little children. Do we need to drop out from the UCL to give them a wake up call? Something seriously wrong with the team. we have players that not only have potential to perform but actually we have a team that SHOULD perform their best in all matches. Lack of experience cant be use as a reason anymore, other than Fabianski, the rest are experience players, player like Denilson, Diaby and the rest have actually play week in week out for the Arsenal first team for some seasons already.

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there are two school boys error at d back!! wat laa. aiyoyo.. both of d goals are free gift wei! aiyoyoyo... @_@

cant blame fabregas tho.. he's been very great.. all move involving him. but sadly he suffered more than 10 times foul by porto players.. i think they wan to break cecs's leg.. aiyo shameful la.. >.<"
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kudos to campbell...he did play very well...cant u c wenger? we're going nowhere...
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i am pretty sure that we will do the job at the Emirates, what's more with all the regular guys coming back (yes Manny, that's including you). but this goalkeeper position had been costing us matches especially the more important matches for over 2 years now. surely we need to do something to address this

i'm not even sure if this is just the heat of the moment kind of thing, but if nothing was done to address this goalkeeper issue next season i am going to start having my doubts over Arsene. there, i've said it
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QUOTE(faintrulez @ Feb 18 2010, 05:56 AM)
there are two school boys error at d back!! wat laa. aiyoyo.. both of d goals are free gift wei! aiyoyoyo... @_@

cant blame fabregas tho.. he's been very great.. all move involving him. but sadly he suffered more than 10 times foul by porto players.. i think they wan to break cecs's leg.. aiyo shameful la.. >.<"
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This is true, but we have like 4 or 5 other players that are attacking, what are the others player doing? rclxub.gif


But seriously, Campbell still a good defender although he is old, he remind me the days where the Arsenal back four is a far less scarier place for us Arsenal fans to see. Honestly for the past few season, whenever an opponent attack, it always give me a heart attack seeing how our defender defended, a lot of last ditch defending laugh.gif What Campbell is doing is actually preventing situation that needed last ditch defending from happening in the first place. Too bad Keown cant play anymore tho tongue.gif

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the position of the indirect freekick given correct or not ? thats the question for ref to answer....
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the position of the indirect freekick given correct or not ? thats the question for ref to answer....
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ref was poor throughout, but we lose this to our own stupidity and as Cesc puts it "schoolboy error"

and now i got my answer to why Manny keep on getting the start even after less than convincing displays this season biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(toshio14 @ Feb 18 2010, 06:02 AM)
i am pretty sure that we will do the job at the Emirates, what's more with all the regular guys coming back (yes Manny, that's including you). but this goalkeeper position had been costing us matches especially the more important matches for over 2 years now. surely we need to do something to address this

i'm not even sure if this is just the heat of the moment kind of thing, but if nothing was done to address this goalkeeper issue next season i am going to start having my doubts over Arsene. there, i've said it
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Sort of agree and disagree on your opinion, tho the goalkeeper department do have it problem, but as long we put a strong back four infront of Almunia, it actually pretty safe. Another reason is because it hard to find a good goalkeeper, most good goalkeeper that I know of and like are in the status of NOT FOR SALE by their respective club, unless AW willing to pay like 15m for goalkeeper like Given or that bold guy who last time play for Blackburn, which I seriously doubt AW will do. To get goalkeeper like Buffon or Cech standard would need more than 20m.
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QUOTE(jim18992 @ Feb 18 2010, 06:08 AM)
Sort of agree and disagree on your opinion, tho the goalkeeper department do have it problem, but as long we put a strong back four infront of Almunia, it actually pretty safe. Another reason is because it hard to find a good goalkeeper, most good goalkeeper that I know of and like are in the status of NOT FOR SALE by their respective club, unless AW willing to pay like 15m for goalkeeper like Given or that bold guy who last time play for Blackburn, which I seriously doubt AW will do. To get goalkeeper like Buffon or Cech standard would need more than 20m.
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yes, i do agree good goalkeeper costs a lot. but then we should ask ourselves, does it worth it? for me, goalkeeper is not a position to be played / tested / experimented around hence i think that spending money to get a good goalkeeper(s) is worth it

but of course we all would like Arsene to pull another Mad Jens again tongue.gif

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the position of the indirect freekick given correct or not ? thats the question for ref to answer....
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It kind of correct actually, I saw it happen in other matches before. But the problem is, players should stand on the ball or something to prevent the opponent to take a fast freekick when their own teammates are not ready yet. Campbell was actually trying to do this, just that when he realize Fabianski mistake, it was too late, the Porto player already kick the ball already. I said this because I actually saw Campbell looking back and realize Fabianski gave back the ball to the referee and the referee place it on the ground, Campbell realize the problem and was heading toward the Porto player but was too late.
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yap, sumtimes GK has to be aggresive too. so dat wont be bullied by others.. ^^
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QUOTE(toshio14 @ Feb 18 2010, 06:11 AM)
yes, i do agree good goalkeeper costs a lot. but then we should ask ourselves, does it worth it? for me, goalkeeper is not a position to be played / tested / experimented around hence i think that spending money to get a good goalkeeper(s) is worth it

but of course we all would like Arsene to pull another Mad Jens again  tongue.gif
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Ya, but then, even if we are willing to spend like 20m on Buffon or some other goalkeeper that is near his standard and his price which can confirm near 100% to perform, their club most likely wont sell them. Buying goalkeeper of Given class which cost less and are easier to find don't guarantee a bullet proof performance. I believe if Given was playing for us, or that bold guy ( really cant remember his name, but I know he is good) that last time play for Blackburn, they would still perform like Almunia, because our back four do have a little bit problem, it a bit unbalance, both are too similar, we need a younger version of Campbell in the defense to balance it all off.

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Ya, but then, even if we are willing to spend like 20m on Buffon or some other goalkeeper that is near his standard and his price which can confirm near 100% to perform, their club most likely wont sell them. Buying goalkeeper of Given class which cost less and are easier to find don't guarantee a bullet proof performance. I believe if Given was playing for us, or that bold guy ( really cant remember his name, but I know he is good) that last time play for Blackburn, they would still perform like Almunia, because our back four do have a little bit problem, it a bit unbalance, both are too similar, we need a younger version of Campbell in the defense to balance it all off.
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that bald guy is Brad Friedel, now playing for Aston Villa

yes, we can never be sure a bullet proof performances by spending to get a good goalkeeper. heck, we get a world class goalkeeper in the form of Jens Lehman for a mere 1.5 million

but my point still remain, something need to be done for our GK position. whether it's to buy a more proven GK or to fast track Vito and Chesney (i honestly given up on trying to spell his name correctly biggrin.gif ) is up to Arsene to decide. my worry is he decided to do nothing and stick with Manny and Lukasz for next season


Added on February 18, 2010, 6:25 amand for the record, i am definitely willing to spend 20 million for Buffon

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QUOTE(toshio14 @ Feb 18 2010, 06:24 AM)
that bald guy is Brad Friedel, now playing for Aston Villa

yes, we can never be sure a bullet proof performances by spending to get a good goalkeeper. heck, we get a world class goalkeeper in the form of Jens Lehman for a mere 1.5 million

but my point still remain, something need to be done for our GK position. whether it's to buy a more proven GK or to fast track Vito and Chesney (i honestly given up on trying to spell his name correctly  biggrin.gif ) is up to Arsene to decide. my worry is he decided to do nothing and stick with Manny and Lukasz for next season


Added on February 18, 2010, 6:25 amand for the record, i am definitely willing to spend 20 million for Buffon
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GK blunder cost us again dis season. doh.gif . I wonder where will be standing now if we got Given @ the 1st place. And brad friedel was
another brilliant GK(watch his save vs rooney few weeks ago).

And bout buffon, if Buffon wanna leave Juve i wouldn't want him to go to any club except my Gunners, but i can see there's no way
he'll leave in some period of time. Juve did reject man city 50M offer 2 seasons ago and buffon keep staying even when Juve relegated.

And bout last nite match, dragao was not an easy venue to play, so losing 2-1 was a lot better than losing 1-0. I'm confident we can turn
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My god, one word for this performance, utter disgrace to the Arsenal badge, shirt and club.

What I don't like is how the players play, they pass around and run around like they treating this as an exhibition or something, like they already guaranteed a place in the next round or going to win big during the home leg doh.gif  No heart to play to put it simple. AW really need to knock some sense into the players, they should treat every single match with respect, in football there nothing guarantee, there no guarantee that we can 100% win by 2 goal or 3 in the 2nd leg game, somehow the players don't see that.

Anyway, on the plus side, Campbell is my Arsenal MOTM, it been a long long long time since I see an Arsenal defender that I have confident in, Campbell is the major reason we haven't conceded more, the Porto player that he is marking is totally silent out.

And the negative side, what the hell is Fabianski doing in tht match? If he always perform like that, I rather let Mannone play than him. Come on, most of his mistake is like among the worse mistake a goalkeeper can make. doh.gif
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QUOTE(faintrulez @ Feb 18 2010, 06:56 AM)
there are two school boys error at d back!! wat laa. aiyoyo.. both of d goals are free gift wei! aiyoyoyo... @_@

cant blame fabregas tho.. he's been very great.. all move involving him. but sadly he suffered more than 10 times foul by porto players.. i think they wan to break cecs's leg.. aiyo shameful la.. >.<"
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more like trying to piss him off and make him kena technical fouls.
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We have serious probs in our goalkeeping dept... it needs a revamp...
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I am optimistic that we will beat the crap out of Porto at the Emirates.

Well, I don't have any comment about the fast indirect freekick, since it's still legal. Henry did the same during Chelsea and West Ham few season's back and I didn't see their manager whining.

But Fabianski, *facepalm*. Why not Don Vito Mannone?
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luckily i dont wake up to watch this game...else maybe another bad day for me...but as far as i can remember...if i watch any arsenal game early in the morning this season, arsenal never lost...hmmm...shud wake up next leg...hehe
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QUOTE(jim18992 @ Feb 18 2010, 06:02 AM)
But seriously, Campbell still a good defender although he is old, he remind me the days where the Arsenal back four is a far less scarier place for us Arsenal fans to see. Honestly for the past few season, whenever an opponent attack, it always give me a heart attack seeing how our defender defended, a lot of last ditch defending laugh.gif  What Campbell is doing is actually preventing situation that needed last ditch defending from happening in the first place. Too bad Keown cant play anymore tho tongue.gif
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i watched the 2nd goal and was like WTF? Fabianski should've hold on to the ball until the ref asked for it. That's his error. u already caught the ball.. hold on to it la. haiya...

seriously, GK needs revamp. Fabianski has been a disaster ever since he arrived. 2 years and a lot of important games he cost us. time to cut the loses and invest in someone else.

I'm all for promoting Don Vito to 2nd place behind manny.

Denilson and Nasri, WTF weh?

Sol proves he still got what it takes. eventhough he don't have the pace, but his positioning sense broke down a lot of plays.

arshavin and eduardo.. please come back this weekend. Song too. I don't think we can risk losing anymore points in EPL. Denilson has been a disappointment this season.

ok.. having said that, we are in a good position because of the away goal. it should've been 1-1 had it not been for that stupid goal.
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you forget about wallcot? I seriously think this guy know to run only. No skill at all. I rate his as passenger for last nite.

overhype. maybe can challenge usain bolt only.
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QUOTE(little_mozart @ Feb 18 2010, 09:32 AM)
you forget about wallcot? I seriously think this guy know to run only. No skill at all. I rate his as passenger for last nite.

overhype. maybe can challenge usain bolt only.
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but seriously, Denilson... what happened?

Fabianski vmad.gif mad.gif vmad.gif
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As i said earlier. I have lost faith in Fabianski. No matter how well he perform, he will never impressed me again. The first goal was a basic goalkeeper skill while the second goal was the refree's fault but it could be saved.

Players like this should be sell or release. Fed up but happy with Sol.
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haha..i think we should change the goalkeeping couch..coz almunia and fabianski both are the same tongue.gif
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still, i fancy gunners to win the tie at home ... both goals also gifted to porto ... next game at emirates when almunia and gallas are back, can't see porto will get those lucks and weird decision ... the referee is the 1 that missed henry handball against r.ireland ...
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QUOTE(sakaito @ Feb 18 2010, 09:29 AM)
i watched the 2nd goal and was like WTF? Fabianski should've hold on to the ball until the ref asked for it. That's his error. u already caught the ball.. hold on to it la. haiya...

seriously, GK needs revamp. Fabianski has been a disaster ever since he arrived. 2 years and a lot of important games he cost us. time to cut the loses and invest in someone else.

I'm all for promoting Don Vito to 2nd place behind manny.
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bro, Lukasz did hold onto the ball until the referee asked for it. as i said earlier, we lost this due to our own stupidity but on their second goal the referee was practically a Porto player biggrin.gif

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I thought our keeper coach is Seaman. I read some article some time ago saying Seaman coached our keepers.
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guys, any ideas where i cant get the link for lastnight MOTD/? really wanna watch that fabianski blunder every1 is talking about, thanks!
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QUOTE(sakaito @ Feb 18 2010, 09:48 AM)
yep... walcott too. haih.. so many things wrong yet we're still in it with the away goal. a 2-0 in at Emirates will be good enough and i think we can.

but seriously, Denilson... what happened?

Fabianski  vmad.gif  mad.gif  vmad.gif
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Wenger had more than enough time to get a goalkeeper but he chose not to.
Surely Given would have come to Arsenal, Sorensen too, maybe even R. Green doh.gif The list is endless

Porto was nothing special. We merely gave them the win
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QUOTE(sakaito @ Feb 18 2010, 09:29 AM)
i watched the 2nd goal and was like WTF? Fabianski should've hold on to the ball until the ref asked for it. That's his error. u already caught the ball.. hold on to it la. haiya...

seriously, GK needs revamp. Fabianski has been a disaster ever since he arrived. 2 years and a lot of important games he cost us. time to cut the loses and invest in someone else.

I'm all for promoting Don Vito to 2nd place behind manny.

Denilson and Nasri, WTF weh?

Sol proves he still got what it takes. eventhough he don't have the pace, but his positioning sense broke down a lot of plays.

arshavin and eduardo.. please come back this weekend. Song too. I don't think we can risk losing anymore points in EPL. Denilson has been a disappointment this season.

ok.. having said that, we are in a good position because of the away goal. it should've been 1-1 had it not been for that stupid goal.
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Err...i think he did hold the ball until the ref took it from him. But there's no defender stands in front of the ball. smile.gif
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Technically, there is nothing wrong with the goal, nor the actions of the referee Martin Hansson. There has clearly been a transgression of law with Sol Campbell's backpass and, once the referee has awarded the free-kick, the rule is that advantage is immediately given back to the team who have been wronged.

In the spirit of the law, it can be argued that the defending team should be given an opportunity to regroup before the kick is taken, but that responsibility falls to the players.

Fabianski could have held on to the ball or thrown it away - as we see so often - thus risking a yellow card but ensuring that Porto would not be able to take a quick free-kick. As for the role of the Porto players, how many times did we see Thierry Henry take a quick free-kick during his Arsenal days under Arsene Wenger?

Most memorably, in an FA Cup tie against Chelsea - and we didn't hear his manager complaining then.It could perhaps be argued that Hansson's positioning prevents Sol Campbell from making an attempt to get back, but that doesn't make the referee wrong.

West Ham and Chelsea fans will remember a similar situation involving myself in a Premier League match some years ago, when I was standing between the ball and West Ham's goal, and then stepped aside to allow Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink to take a quick free-kick, which flew past David James into the net. Looking back at it, I admit that my positioning could have been better but, in this case, Hansson hasn't blocked the view of the Arsenal goalkeeper and, by, asking for Fabianski to hand the ball back, cannot be accused of taking the Gunners by surprise.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...l#ixzz0fqzTlXt1

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QUOTE(little_mozart @ Feb 18 2010, 09:32 AM)
overhype. maybe can challenge usain bolt only.
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don't know what has happen to this young man... seems like he's already loose his confidence in playing football latelly... haihhh.. what a waste of talent
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Who the h**l taught Fabianski to have his back facing the goal when any free kick is taken???? shakehead.gif



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regarding the 2nd goal.. i saw thru youtube... does the referee already blown the whistle?
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Hmm... when referee signals for an IFK, the referee will keep his hand up until after the ball has been kicked and touched by another player. And according to the video, the referee did indeed raise his hand.

But according to the video, the referee looked to be interfering with play, hmm... but he doesn't block the GK though. So, that's a tough one. hmm.gif

As for whether the referee did blow the whistle to signal for the free kick to resume, that's not necessary. So, actually... from my POV, Porto caught us sleeping... shakehead.gif

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i just accept that we lost becuz of fabianski's mistakes....i wont blame the ref...if it goes our way we wont complain...when it goes against us why should we complain...i dont want to become a hypocrite...liverpool fans has a better case against us...just accept it..and hope that wenger give vito a chance...our 1st and 2nd GK are crap....at least rosicky was showing what he can do...denilson cant perform in big games...he can only play with lower tier club....
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Got to agree with Dashken. Even the ref didn't see that coming. It was a smart move for Porto to have the 2nd player running up so quickly to receive the ball. Is there a rule that says the ref has to wait for the wall formation? I don't know. Henry used to ask 'politely' to take an early kick and the ref let him took it before the wall is formed. So, I guess, there's no clear rule on that. All that I know is, we need Mad Jens at the Emirates right now. Not to guard our goal, but to slap Fabianski senseless on the head.
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shocking display by arsenal.. i woke up late around 5am.. and saw scoreboard 2-1.. and saw a comedy error by fabianski.. i going sleep again!
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sell fabianski or dun cont his contract!!!!!
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QUOTE(maximus85 @ Feb 18 2010, 12:29 PM)
Fabianski dun have the maturity, characteristic and attitude of a keeper... u wanna be a polite and goodboy keeper?? THEN GTFO !!!! keeper should be more rough and daring... Fabianski is too soft... is he a gay or pondan?? no balls then dun play football la vmad.gif
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Dude, acting ganas behind the computer and sprouting profanities will only highlight how classless you are.

Everybody is frustrated with the result, and Luk did really screw up for the first goal. The second one however was a bit dubious. The replays showed that Luk did receive the back pass with his foot before scooping it up so the ref might have got it wrong. What Luk should do is probably stand his ground and insist his innocence and at least delay returning the ball until everybody is in position. I don't think anyone can complain about Porto's quickly taken freekick especially if the ref has already given the go ahead; Titi used to do this all the time. Refs are becoming more and more useless nowadays so we can never depend on them.

Good things that can be taken from this game:
1. We only need a 1-0 victory at the Grove to proceed.
2. Tommy got another assist.
3. Sol isn't half bad as Silvestre although he's nowhere near his best.

If we truly have secured the services of Chamakh this coming summer, then we probably should focus on getting a keeper while waiting on the progress of Woj and Vito. Luk seems to have lost his head after his injuries while Al is too erratic.

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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Feb 18 2010, 12:52 PM)
Dude, acting ganas behind the computer and sprouting profanities will only highlight how classless you are.

Everybody is frustrated with the result, and Luk did really screw up for the first goal. The second one however was a bit dubious. The replays showed that Luk did receive the back pass with his foot before scooping it up so the ref might have got it wrong. What Luk should do is probably stand his ground and insist his innocence and at least delay returning the ball until everybody is in position. I don't think anyone can complain about Porto's quickly taken freekick especially if the ref has already given the go ahead; Titi used to do this all the time. Refs are becoming more and more useless nowadays so we can never depend on them.

Good things that can be taken from this game:
1. We only need a 1-0 victory at the Grove to proceed.
2. Tommy got another assist.
3. Sol isn't half bad as Silvestre although he's nowhere near his best.

If we truly have secured the services of Chamakh this coming summer, then we probably should focus on getting a keeper while waiting on the progress of Woj and Vito. Luk seems to have lost his head after his injuries while Al is too erratic.
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one thing abt the indirect free kick is why is it a indirect free kick inside the box hahaha wtf. thats mind boggling.
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I won't even try to be politically correct here. Fabiansky was very very disappointing for someone who's playing at the highest level of football. Somehow our players are not as sharp in front of the goal and to see all the missed chances was demoralising.

But it was good to see Sol back in action. Reminds me of the old times. It was also great to see him score a goal. Arsenal have to take the game at home on the next leg. I hope Arsene rethinks his strategies & players.
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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Feb 18 2010, 01:22 PM)
mind explaining?
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I don't know too much about the rules, but more often than not the keeper is allowed to pick up the ball once he has received it with his feet. It is not uncommon for keepers to receive a back pass, wait for the opponent striker to come, and then scoop it up for a throw or a kick if he feels there is danger. It's only illegal if the defender passes directly into the keeper's hands, and frequently indirect freekicks are given.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xc9qv9_por21

Again, I could be wrong and am happy to be corrected if so.

The goal should stand unfortunately, as it was scored in a legal manner. Whether the ref got it wrong to begin with doesn't change the fact that Luk was horrible in dealing with the second goal.

Anyway, someone at AM noted a funny trend:
Seaman
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Lehmann
Manual Almunia

So maybe we'll see Vito Mannone as our new number 1 in the near future? tongue.gif

Quick... go google for keepers which M-A-N in their names....

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we only needed 1-0 to win the game. hope we can score it and keep the cleansheet!
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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Feb 18 2010, 02:34 PM)
I don't know too much about the rules, but more often than not the keeper is allowed to pick up the ball once he has received it with his feet. It is not uncommon for keepers to receive a back pass, wait for the opponent striker to come, and then scoop it up for a throw or a kick if he feels there is danger. It's only illegal if the defender passes directly into the keeper's hands, and frequently indirect freekicks are given.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xc9qv9_por21

Again, I could be wrong and am happy to be corrected if so.

The goal should stand unfortunately, as it was scored in a legal manner. Whether the ref got it wrong to begin with doesn't change the fact that Luk was horrible in dealing with the second goal.
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he shouldnt have gave the the ball to the referee if he wants to argue about it. Worse is he turned his back when porto was taking the quick free kick. He didnt even know what happened
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QUOTE(IcyDarling @ Feb 18 2010, 01:38 PM)
he shouldnt have gave the the ball to the referee if he wants to argue about it. Worse is he turned his back when porto was taking the quick free kick. He didnt even know what happened
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It is a backpass Starghazzer(just unintentional from sol).

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the more i see fabianksi in arsenal goal, the more i feel arsenal will lose the game.
Vito Mannone is far better options than him..why was Wenger so stubborn??

plz start Mannone against sunderland plz, if not clean sheet, atleast he will only allow 1 goals, while making 10 fantastic saves.


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QUOTE(whoopa @ Feb 18 2010, 01:22 PM)
one thing abt the indirect free kick is why is it a indirect free kick inside the box hahaha wtf. thats mind boggling.
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I don't know how accurate it is, but here it is anyway...

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The eight offenses for which the referee may award an indirect free kick are:

    * The goalkeeper takes more than six seconds while controlling the ball with his hands before releasing it from his possession
    * The goalkeeper touches the ball again with his hands after it has been released from his possession and has not touched any other player
    * The goalkeeper touches the ball with his hands after it has been deliberately kicked to him by a team-mate
    * The goalkeeper touches the ball with his hands after he has received it directly from a throw-in taken by a team-mate
    * Playing in a dangerous manner
    * Impeding the progress of an opponent
    * Preventing the goalkeeper from releasing the ball from his hands
    * Any other offense is committed for which play is stopped to caution or send-off a player

Source: http://www.wikihow.com/Understand-Soccer-Referee-Signals


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Looks like it is really Fabianski's mistake.

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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Feb 18 2010, 01:34 PM)
I don't know too much about the rules, but more often than not the keeper is allowed to pick up the ball once he has received it with his feet. It is not uncommon for keepers to receive a back pass, wait for the opponent striker to come, and then scoop it up for a throw or a kick if he feels there is danger. It's only illegal if the defender passes directly into the keeper's hands, and frequently indirect freekicks are given.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xc9qv9_por21

Again, I could be wrong and am happy to be corrected if so.

The goal should stand unfortunately, as it was scored in a legal manner. Whether the ref got it wrong to begin with doesn't change the fact that Luk was horrible in dealing with the second goal.
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If it was a backpass from any other part of the body then yes Fabianski is allowed to do so but if the backpass is done intentionally from the feet then its illegal regardless whether he controlled with his feet or any part of the body first.

In the replay you can clearly see Sol shaping up to sidefoot a pass back to Fabianski however from those replays it is still hard to determine if Sol's feet actually touched the ball. Sol might have miscued with that sidefoot and did not touch the ball leading Fabianski to think that it was safe to catch the ball.
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I think wenger expected a DIRECT FREE KICK instead of an indirect one since sol's toe hit the ball back to fabianski unintentionally led to a backpass.

One thing you should know about Indirect FKs:

As soon as the ball is touched, it is in play.

So, It's fabianski's mistake.

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the only argument to the awarding of the free kick was that Sol was not intentionally passing the ball back to Lukasz i.e. it's not a backpass. but surely that was stupid from Lukasz to pick up that ball when he can clearly see that the ball did touch Sol's left led

but to be fair to him, i thought he did delay the free kick enough so that the other players coming back to defend the free kick. Sol did tried to come back to defend but was blocked by the referee, but only Sol was there to make any meaningful defensive duties towards that free kick

anyway, i did said last night that we only have ourselves to blame for not winning last night
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QUOTE(sigheart @ Feb 18 2010, 01:46 PM)
If it was a backpass from any other part of the body then yes Fabianski is allowed to do so but if the backpass is done intentionally from the feet then its illegal regardless whether he controlled with his feet or any part of the body first.

In the replay you can clearly see Sol shaping up to sidefoot a pass back to Fabianski however from those replays it is still hard to determine if Sol's feet actually touched the ball. Sol might have miscued with that sidefoot and did not touch the ball leading Fabianski to think that it was safe to catch the ball.
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A goalkeeper is not permitted to touch the ball with his hand inside his own
penalty area in the following circumstances:
• if he handles the ball again after it has been released from his possession
and has not touched any other player:
– the goalkeeper is considered to be in control of the ball by touching
it with any part of his hands or arms except if the ball rebounds
accidentally from him, for example, after he has made a save
– possession of the ball includes the goalkeeper deliberately parrying the
ball
• if he touches the ball with his hands after it has been deliberately kicked to
him by a team-mate
• if he touches the ball with his hands after he has received it directly from a
throw-in taken by a team-mate

http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederati...ofthegameen.pdf

So maybe when the ball was bouncing off Luk's foot, the ref considered it to be 'released from his possession'.
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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Feb 18 2010, 01:34 PM)
I don't know too much about the rules, but more often than not the keeper is allowed to pick up the ball once he has received it with his feet. It is not uncommon for keepers to receive a back pass, wait for the opponent striker to come, and then scoop it up for a throw or a kick if he feels there is danger. It's only illegal if the defender passes directly into the keeper's hands, and frequently indirect freekicks are given.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xc9qv9_por21

Again, I could be wrong and am happy to be corrected if so.

The goal should stand unfortunately, as it was scored in a legal manner. Whether the ref got it wrong to begin with doesn't change the fact that Luk was horrible in dealing with the second goal.

Anyway, someone at AM noted a funny trend:
Seaman
Manninger
Lehmann
Manual Almunia

So maybe we'll see Vito Mannone as our new number 1 in the near future? tongue.gif

Quick... go google for keepers which M-A-N in their names....
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Porto posed zero threats and yet 2 goals were conceded . What a waste , it could easilly be 1-0 for Arsenal .
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to me the worst player was sagna, losing possession, canot track players, pasing all gone wrong.
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QUOTE(Breaktru @ Feb 18 2010, 02:12 PM)
Porto posed zero threats and yet 2 goals were conceded . What a waste , it could easilly be 1-0 for Arsenal .
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based on the highlights i have seen, the 2 goals we have conceded are at our fault...
too careless to give it easily to the opponent.
enough said, we need to bounce back at the EMIRATES~ rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(Liuism @ Feb 18 2010, 02:37 PM)
based on the highlights i have seen, the 2 goals we have conceded are at our fault...
too careless to give it easily to the opponent.
enough said, we need to bounce back at the EMIRATES~ rclxm9.gif
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It's purely Fabianski fault .

Still , the attacking players could do better . Our forward havent score a goal since the game against Aston Villa . Plenty of chances , just no decent finishing .
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QUOTE(Liuism @ Feb 18 2010, 02:37 PM)
based on the highlights i have seen, the 2 goals we have conceded are at our fault...
too careless to give it easily to the opponent.
enough said, we need to bounce back at the EMIRATES~ rclxm9.gif
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agreed with you bro... Gunners needs to bounce back when meet Porto again at Emirates thumbup.gif

been reading from others lyn sayin' poor performance by Denilson (aiyooyoo... what had really happens to this guy...really down lar dia), Clichy, Sagna not forgotten Lukasz... hope other Gunners layers will perform well for the next meet up with FC Porto... flex.gif

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Everybody is frustrated with the result, and Luk did really screw up for the first goal. The second one however was a bit dubious. The replays showed that Luk did receive the back pass with his foot before scooping it up so the ref might have got it wrong. What Luk should do is probably stand his ground and insist his innocence and at least delay returning the ball until everybody is in position. I don't think anyone can complain about Porto's quickly taken freekick especially if the ref has already given the go ahead; Titi used to do this all the time. Refs are becoming more and more useless nowadays so we can never depend on them.


that's why i'm saying it's lukasz fault here. he should've plead the case or even throw the ball out and get a yellow. hehehe i think Lehmann might've done that. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(sakaito @ Feb 18 2010, 03:20 PM)
that's why i'm saying it's lukasz fault here. he should've plead the case or even throw the ball out and get a yellow. hehehe i think Lehmann might've done that. biggrin.gif
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bro saikato,

if Lukasz had the M-A-N factor possibly he would have thrown the ball out and gracefully had the yellow... ngeh ngeh ngeh...

anyway let it be a lesson to him... who knows in future he could be great as other GK but if he did the same mistake again... what can i say... hahaha

hope that AW would change his mind and let Don Vito M-A-N-none be line up meeting with Sunderland at least to shows what he was capable besides Almunia & Lukasz...

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Sol was seen hanging his head in frustration when the ref blew his whistle. I wonder, was it "Why oh why did I kick the ball?" or was it "Why the feck did you pick it up dude?".

Anyway, my expectation for the Champions League trophy is low. Especially after we ourselves have shown that we don't have what it takes when coming up against a formidable side. Well, my heart says hell yeah, but my head says maybe not.
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1. Sol
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CL title hope is already over. AW better u win the EPL this season, if not better resign for the same sake of fans & BOD.


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CL title not over yet la. Like City Lead ManU 2-1, but ManU still managed to overcome them. We have 1 away goal advantage. 1-0 we can qualify ady.

EPL we still have hope. 6 points from chelsea only
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Ars still got chance as long Porto dont defend gila2...Arsenal always have trouble to break defence and Wenger will complain teams are not coming out and play....

p/s: there is a saying whenever Sol scores, we end up losing...except once when he scored against Portsmouth from half or quarter field...

Fab said he will leave end of season if Ars dont win any cups...izit true?

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i like eboue coming from bench and lil bit change of arsenal games.. sagna and clichy... ermm.. suddenly performance drop..
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eboue???? he is the clumsiest player i ever seen!
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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Feb 18 2010, 01:34 PM)
I don't know too much about the rules, but more often than not the keeper is allowed to pick up the ball once he has received it with his feet. It is not uncommon for keepers to receive a back pass, wait for the opponent striker to come, and then scoop it up for a throw or a kick if he feels there is danger. It's only illegal if the defender passes directly into the keeper's hands, and frequently indirect freekicks are given.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xc9qv9_por21

Again, I could be wrong and am happy to be corrected if so.

The goal should stand unfortunately, as it was scored in a legal manner. Whether the ref got it wrong to begin with doesn't change the fact that Luk was horrible in dealing with the second goal.

Anyway, someone at AM noted a funny trend:
Seaman
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So maybe we'll see Vito Mannone as our new number 1 in the near future? tongue.gif

Quick... go google for keepers which M-A-N in their names....
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Hmm...I am pretty sure you are not allowed to do that either. As long as it is a back pass using feet, the keeper must not catch the ball. smile.gif

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eboue???? he is the clumsiest player i ever seen!
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Because he is not getting much games already, out of favour. Sagna is playing RB all the time, while we have so so many midfielders who can play right side...
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wenger should consider signing a more consistent striker......
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wenger should consider signing a more consistent striker......
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If considering our squad's current strikers not out injured, we have quite decent amount..RVP, Eduardo, Bendtner. We use 1 striker most of the time also.
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If considering our squad's current strikers not out injured, we have quite decent amount..RVP, Eduardo, Bendtner. We use 1 striker most of the time also.
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All our strikers are not world class. Look at MU, Chelsea & Liverpool. They have wht it takes to score but Arsenal.... hmm.gif
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If considering our squad's current strikers not out injured, we have quite decent amount..RVP, Eduardo, Bendtner. We use 1 striker most of the time also.
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But all of them are injury-prone and inconsistent... We need someone like drogba, torres, rooney type....
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QUOTE(skon9 @ Feb 18 2010, 05:45 PM)
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say is easy, who will you recommend to wenger ? if you can recommend, you can apply to become scout for arsenal ...

and football club is like company, sign players base on budget ... not simply sign when the team not perform ...

wenger already got rvp, eduardo, bentdner and vela for striker position ...
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guys, any ideas where i cant get the rapidshare/Megaupload link for lastnight MOTD/? really wanna watch that fabianski blunder every1 is talking about, thanks!
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we need vito in goal from now on...no more clowns in goal plz....we have had enough goal keeping blunder for 1 season....most of the goal we conceded are woeful....wenger can only blame himself for fielding those type of players....denilson and welcott was really awful..they need to be sent back to the reserve team...teach them basics again...denilson need to understand that being a DM means going to the gym and beefing up...no way can you play that role when you are that skinny and easily get bullied by others...at least diaby put in effort to go to the gym to bulk up...he know that playing dm in the EPL is very physical..
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QUOTE(BoltonMan @ Feb 18 2010, 06:36 PM)
say is easy, who will you recommend to wenger ? if you can recommend, you can apply to become scout for arsenal ...

and football club is like company, sign players base on budget ... not simply sign when the team not perform ...

wenger already got rvp, eduardo, bentdner and vela for striker position ...
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Nothing is easy but Arsenal should take the opportunity of buying the right players.
AW should have bought Eto 2 seasons ago when Barca decided to offload him. He is far better than RVP & Nicky!

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why is wenger not playing remsey??? putting in denilson...what a waste,,,,,remsey can do 2X better than denilson....everytime i see denilson he is jogging and misplacing pass...wenger is too stuborn..he wont give up on denilson....he wanna proof the world wrong...


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guys, any ideas where i cant get the rapidshare/Megaupload link for lastnight MOTD/? really wanna watch that fabianski blunder every1 is talking about, thanks!
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you dont want to see it...it really looks like those primary school kids blunder...if i were a porto fan...i would be laughing my head off..

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i thought Aaron is currently out with injury?
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QUOTE(skon9 @ Feb 18 2010, 06:29 PM)
But all of them are injury-prone and inconsistent... We need someone like drogba, torres, rooney type....
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drogba also always injured

torress too...

rooney just hit his form now. before this he is quite average.

who? Zlatan? injury prone also. Etoó? same thing. Huntelaar? did u watch how lyon frustrate him? hmm.gif
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Too bad our version of bergkamp is injured all the time. I have high hopes in eduardo, just look at club career statistics. He had only 4 games last season, at least this season he had more games, but now injured again. But i do think we will sign one striker summer, Chamakh. But imagine when RVP, Eduardo are fit. We have abundance of midfield. You know denilson will still get to play. Nasri, Fab, Song, Walcott, Ramsey, Rosicky, Denilson, Diaby.
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QUOTE(toshio14 @ Feb 18 2010, 08:00 PM)
i thought Aaron is currently out with injury?
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QUOTE(sakaito @ Feb 18 2010, 07:09 PM)
drogba also always injured

torress too...

rooney just hit his form now. before this he is quite average.

who? Zlatan? injury prone also. Etoó? same thing. Huntelaar? did u watch how lyon frustrate him?  hmm.gif
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But at least their injury not long term like RVP, but once they return they start to score a lot. RVP took his time to recover, and had a really great EARLY season...

Rooney was known as a wizzkid, but he has yet to reach the level of drogba or torres. Of course, recently his form has caught eyes from all sides.


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QUOTE(Casanova88 @ Feb 18 2010, 06:53 PM)
Nothing is easy but Arsenal should take the opportunity of buying the right players.
AW should have bought Eto 2 seasons ago when Barca decided to offload him. He is far better than RVP & Nicky!
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I am a huge fan of Eto'o but no way we could have afforded his price tag. Where are we going to find the money?
Nik is an unfinished product and I refrain from judging him until he establishes himself as a regular in his preferred position AND gets a regular run of games. There is something great about this guy - you don't become the main striker of your national team at such a tender age.
Robin can do what Eto'o cannot and vice versa. No fair comparison here - the best possibility is to get both in the same team but it's unlikely.

QUOTE(sakaito @ Feb 18 2010, 07:09 PM)
drogba also always injured

torress too...

rooney just hit his form now. before this he is quite average.

who? Zlatan? injury prone also. Etoó? same thing. Huntelaar? did u watch how lyon frustrate him?  hmm.gif
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Zlatan is doing well at Barca, but hell look at his price tag.... $$$+ Eto'o.... Again we're nowhere near that sort of financial strength.
I never did get the hype of Huntelaar. Sure, he was on fire in the Dutch League. Sure, he looked good on youtube. Yet he flopped at Madrid and isn't exactly the most deadly striker in Milan... If Dudu, who had a pretty decent contribution before his current injury gets so much flak from the fans, I don't think Huntelaar will be treated any better.

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Edin Dzenko anyone ?
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Edin Dzenko anyone ?
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Didn't you guys notice , when RVP is fit early season , we always won by alot of goals ? At least 4 goals , although we concede , but always by great margins like 5-2 , 7-2 , 6-0 etc. However , looking at the situation now , even against fairly weak team we struggled .
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QUOTE(sakaito @ Feb 18 2010, 07:09 PM)
drogba also always injured

torress too...

rooney just hit his form now. before this he is quite average.

who? Zlatan? injury prone also. Etoó? same thing. Huntelaar? did u watch how lyon frustrate him?  hmm.gif
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But at least they are more consistent... we need the player that can score regularly, not those who score 2-3 goal this week, then the next few week or month without any goal..

And from what I seen, arsenal striker are not strong enough to cope with the defenders...
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No worries...may that be a good experience to fab...I'm sure he can lead us to glory smile.gif
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QUOTE(Breaktru @ Feb 18 2010, 08:57 PM)
Didn't you guys notice , when RVP is fit early season , we always won by alot of goals ? At least 4 goals , although we concede , but always by great margins like 5-2 , 7-2 , 6-0 etc. However , looking at the situation now , even against fairly weak team we struggled .
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obviously, RvP is a great player that can score goals. And i've seen fabregas getting pissed with Nasri/Bentner. He couldnt get the service from them like he used to when he pass to vanPersie or Arsharvin
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guys, any ideas where i cant get the rapidshare/Megaupload link for lastnight MOTD/? really wanna watch that fabianski blunder every1 is talking about, thanks!
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here u go

Mediafire

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missed the match yesterday due to some private stuffs..but saw the replay and i guess if i watched that match I would smash my com on the floor..but i am optimistic we could destroy porto..provided if this kind of blunder never make an appearance for the 2nd leg.I really wished rvp was fit..I like his facial expression when celebrating goals thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Sifha238 @ Feb 18 2010, 07:37 PM)
Edin Dzenko anyone ?
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price tag is one thing.. contract signing fee another thing. wage and bonuses add for everything.
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huntelaar is no different than bentnar. buy him will be a disaster.
what we need is a creative striker, david villa example" smart and good finisher.
goalkeeper wise just put vito in and see how it goes biggrin.gif
porto match when I saw silves warming up that scared the crap out of me !!!
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QUOTE(super messi @ Feb 18 2010, 07:45 PM)
hahaha....dont say that name in here dude....you just flaming....people will start telling you that we dont have the money...we can only affort someone that comes for free...
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That's not flaming, it's just being unrealistic.

It's true that we simply do not have the money that Wolfsburg is asking for. Look at how many big money moves that occurred during the winter window. Zilch. And if the rumours regarding Chamakh are true then we really have been doing some haggling under the radar during Jan.

QUOTE(Breaktru @ Feb 18 2010, 07:57 PM)
Didn't you guys notice , when RVP is fit early season , we always won by alot of goals ? At least 4 goals , although we concede , but always by great margins like 5-2 , 7-2 , 6-0 etc. However , looking at the situation now , even against fairly weak team we struggled .
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Any team would miss a player of Robin's calibre. Fabs may be our heartbeat but up front it was the presence of Robin that gave freedom to the midfielders and wingers.
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Other than just RvP absentees,i feel that Arsenal RB and LB is also somewhat missing.
Our bese RB and LB is really no where near the best when they are introduced into EPL.Clichy was lacking his pace in basically every match while Sagna crosses has gone from bad to worst already.

To provide more option for the attacking player, RB and LB got to played the best of themself or else even with best striker in the world seems quite meaningless.
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pompey has firesale now...wenger don't want to join?
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QUOTE(Azurues @ Feb 19 2010, 05:10 AM)
Other than just RvP absentees,i feel that Arsenal RB and LB is also somewhat missing.
Our bese RB and LB is really no where near the best when they are introduced into EPL.Clichy was lacking his pace in basically every match while Sagna crosses has gone from bad to worst already.

To provide more option for the attacking player, RB and LB got to played the best of themself or else even with best striker in the world seems quite meaningless.
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Agree with the RB LB stuff..during 07/08 both of them were outstanding.Clichy was targetted in every match so far from his return from injury,having less pace and more error prone.Sagna crosses..i guess my memory hardly remembered a cross from him that was converted to goal..now see him take the ball i always thought the ball will fly to the corner flag or no man's land sweat.gif Don't they teach how to cross properly at Arsenal training ground laugh.gif

QUOTE(little_mozart @ Feb 19 2010, 06:11 AM)
pompey has firesale now...wenger don't want to join?
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Pompey have no one good enough to bolster our squad..maybe only David James fit the bill but just only. Mentioning Pompey i read from somewhere if they got wind-up,then the points we gained from them will be null sweat.gif I do hope Pompey won't be wiped out of existence.

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pompey has firesale now...wenger don't want to join?
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ban Chielini from football anyone?
haha i just cant forgive him..
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QUOTE(kanelee @ Feb 19 2010, 09:33 AM)
Agree with the RB LB stuff..during 07/08 both of them were outstanding.Clichy was targetted in every match so far from his return from injury,having less pace and more error prone.Sagna crosses..i guess my memory hardly remembered a cross from him that was converted to goal..now see him take the ball i always thought the ball will fly to the corner flag or no man's land sweat.gif Don't they teach how to cross properly at Arsenal training ground laugh.gif
Pompey have no one good enough to bolster our squad..maybe only David James fit the bill but just only. Mentioning Pompey i read from somewhere if they got wind-up,then the points we gained from them will be null sweat.gif I do hope Pompey won't be wiped out of existence.
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QUOTE(IcyDarling @ Feb 19 2010, 09:32 AM)
worse is all the goal difference all the big four teams got(except liverpool, they lost 2-0 ryte?)
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so sunderland tomorrow? So fast one got next match. Full gunpowder + C4 needed. We must assume every next match is CL final.


Arsha said to win the title, we must win the remaining games.
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More comments on GK...

"There is only one way to do this - and that is for the manager to go out and the spend the kind of money that will bring a top class keeper to this club. We're expecting Porsche performances from Skodas at the moment, no wonder we're constantly disappointed."

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really hope this time around AW would let Vito Mannone take in charge meeting up with Sunderland this Saturday... after that our Gooners may review whose the best GK among the rest.... icon_idea.gif


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so sunderland tomorrow? So fast one got next match. Full gunpowder + C4 needed. We must assume every next match is CL final.
Arsha said to win the title, we must win the remaining games.
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with extra C4 and at least 2 goals for every single games no less than that.... yehaaa!!! can arrr... blush.gif

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Sigh now Diaby had a medial knee ligament injury against Porto and will be out for quite awhile. doh.gif

Almunia and Song back. Arshavin, Gallas and Eduardo still out.
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ban Chielini from football anyone?
haha i just cant forgive him..
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Diaby out omg doh.gif

Sunderland is another physical team and without him it will be hard again.

I want to see Song and Diaby manning the midfield not Denilson and Song/Diaby.

Arsenal is just pure unlucky the whole season doh.gif
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QUOTE(sigheart @ Feb 19 2010, 12:44 PM)
Sigh now Diaby had a medial knee ligament injury against Porto and will be out for quite awhile.  doh.gif

Almunia and Song back. Arshavin, Gallas and Eduardo still out.
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It doesn't matter who is out. As long as Wenger keeps on turning a blind eye to his side's shortcomings, Arsenal can never rediscover their swagger of the old. It was beautiful and powerful during the Henry, Bergkamp era. Now only pretty stuff happens, no steel whatsoever.

Fabregas would have done the same like Porto did with the freekick. Plus, I did not hear Wenger complained when Henry was doing this like nobody's business.

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QUOTE(super messi @ Feb 19 2010, 12:57 PM)
no way....he is a fantastic defender...wish wenger would sign him up...that type of player is what we really need...more spirit...he even played for juve when he got a fractured cheek bone or something..wearing a mask...he and vermy would go well together...a fighter..
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Second that. With dat kind of killer look, he could scare strikers off tongue.gif

Well at least RVP dont have to face him cos dat fella confirm will be having trauma from dat tackle.

Use all of our remaining funds, get Buffon and Chielini from Juve, Chamakh on free den i guess we had all our weakness covered (i hope) biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(super messi @ Feb 19 2010, 12:57 PM)
no way....he is a fantastic defender...wish wenger would sign him up...that type of player is what we really need...more spirit...he even played for juve when he got a fractured cheek bone or something..wearing a mask...he and vermy would go well together...a fighter..
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haha i couldn't agree more. Ask torres & villa bout how they feel facing chiello during euro 08 tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Itu_Dia_Man @ Feb 19 2010, 01:38 PM)
It doesn't matter who is out. As long as Wenger keeps on turning a blind eye to his side's shortcomings, Arsenal can never rediscover their swagger of the old. It was beautiful and powerful during the Henry, Bergkamp era. Now only pretty stuff happens, no steel whatsoever.

Fabregas would have done the same like Porto did with the freekick. Plus, I did not hear Wenger complained when Henry was doing this like nobody's business.

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I believe most of us will feel okay if the freekick taker acknowledged the referee before taking it fast.

IINM, Henry did this before, but he verbally informed the referee first - correct me if I'm wrong though.

Anyway, the location of the freekick is "sensitive", the referee should had judged the situation more "rationally".
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Yeah, regarding the back-pass law, straight from the book under Law 12- Fouls and Misconduct

Indirect Free-Kick
An indirect free-kick is awarded to the opposing team if the goalkeeper, inside his own penalty area, commits any of the following four offences
1. controls the ball with his hands for more than six seconds before releasing it from his possession
2. touches the ball again with his hands after he has released it from his possession and before it has touched another player
3. touches the ball with his hands after it has been deliberately kicked to him by a team-mate
4. touches the ball with his hands after he has received it directly from a throw-in taken by a team-mate

First, the pass back to the goalkeeper must be with out a doubt deliberate in the eyes of the referee which most of us know
Second, the goalkeeper must touch the ball with his hands, again pretty straight forward.

The back-pass is only "re-set" if you will is when it touches another player.

Take these scenarios.
1. Goalkeeper belongs to RED team, defender on red team DELIBERATELY passes the ball back to his goalkeeper, the goalkeeper traps the ball at his feet for about 10 seconds, does multiple back-flips, does 20 push-ups next to the ball and has a sleep on the turf (the attacking team are losing 20-0). The goalkeeper wants to finish the match so he decides to flick the ball up with his foot and catch the ball to distribute it off to a team-mate. WHISTLE, BACK-PASS, INDIRECT FREE-KICK.

I would also possibly considering cautioning the goalkeeper, if not for unsporting behaviour and time wasting in the first instance doing the push-ups etc Smile but most likely for purposely trying to find a loop hole in the laws of the game by flicking the ball up with his foot.

2. Goalkeeper belongs to RED team, defender on red team DELIBERATELY passes the ball back to his goalkeeper, the goalkeeper is asleep but the attacking player is on his toes and looks to place a one-touch shot in the bottom corner of the goal. The attacker just gets a toe to it but is too ****y and it goes straight to the goalkeeper and he picks it up. NO BACK PASS, PLAY ON GOALKEEPER

That is how I see it


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Sigh now Diaby had a medial knee ligament injury against Porto and will be out for quite awhile.  doh.gif

Almunia and Song back. Arshavin, Gallas and Eduardo still out.
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i forgot the porto match d lu
nothing much to say
blunder + lol goal
kinda pity fabianski, not that i like him..but i got nth againts him as well.

lost is a lost, thank god we got the away goal

hopefully we do better in the return leg

as for our injuries, also nth much to comment on this
so far for the past 3-4 seasons, we have nv complete a season without most of our players
sudah kuan liao....its all this unfortunate injury plague that made us look asthough we are thin in squad
but we are actually alright. not many people see this

we are the most consistent team in having team injuries. laugh.gif
id always say if we got our complete squad, competing for say 3/4 of the season without injuries
i always put our team on a 50-50 favorites to win the title, prob a lil bias

but just to bad, thats no the just way it is.
sunderland this week,id like 3 pts!
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QUOTE(frankiejay @ Feb 19 2010, 02:54 PM)

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Well, I believe most of us has no problem with the freekick given due to "back-pass". We are only frustrated by either (1) referee allowed a fast freekick even he wasn't been acknowledged by Porto players or (2) Fabianski / Arsenal players being naive and did not protect the space between the ball and our goal posts.
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QUOTE(Vinci777 @ Feb 19 2010, 03:26 PM)
Second that. With dat kind of killer look, he could scare strikers off tongue.gif

Well at least RVP dont have to face him cos dat fella confirm will be having trauma from dat tackle.

Use all of our remaining funds, get Buffon and Chielini from Juve, Chamakh on free den i guess we had all our weakness covered (i hope) biggrin.gif
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i always wondered, if it was arsenal who did the exact same thing to another team(lets just say, manchester united), would u guys agree with this act? i mean, like seriously the same as the way porto scored. Without even telling the referee he is going to take the IFK fast.

on the side note, arsenal was the better team. Both the goal was like a gift for Porto. The first goal was terrible. Its like basic goal-keeping to not stand at the middle when people cross, especially low crosses. Fabianski should have went to the side of the post.
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Here's the law, thats why it can be taken instantly, the referee raised him arm earlier.

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The ball becomes in play as soon as it is touched, unless the kick was taken from within the kicking team's penalty area, in which case it is in play once it has passed completely out of the penalty area.

The referee signals that a free kick is indirect by raising one arm until the ball has been touched a second time or has gone out of play.


Source: Wiki

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QUOTE(frankiejay @ Feb 19 2010, 04:13 PM)
I thought the referee already indicated its an indirect freekick and it can be taken instantly?
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If im not mistaken, he carried his hand up, signalling that the free kick can be taken alrdy
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If im not mistaken, he carried his hand up, signalling that the free kick can be taken alrdy
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yea, it is indirect freekick but watch the goal one more time, you will see that sol campbell is trying to block the kick but the referee is blocking sol campbell from going to the ball.

I just don't get it why is the referee block our players.
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QUOTE(sigheart @ Feb 19 2010, 12:44 PM)
Sigh now Diaby had a medial knee ligament injury against Porto and will be out for quite awhile.  doh.gif

Almunia and Song back. Arshavin, Gallas and Eduardo still out.
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Almunia - Mannn...must cross my fingers again.. doh.gif
Song - Yehaaaa... hope he had recovered enough and fit as 110% rclxms.gif
Arshavin, Gallas & Eduardo - Still out!! aisehh doh.gif

chypher,

bro i'm also don't understand why do the referee block Sol.. clearly Sol was sandwiched between Porto player and Ref.. vmad.gif

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ditto Itu_Dia_Man...

with Sunderland...i think it's a draw...we dont have squad depth...those were the days with Bergkamp the creative and Henry/Ian Wright the finisher...Bendtner is like old time Kaba Diawara or Sylvian Wiltord...Eduardo still phobia after injury...but he had striker rate of scoring before injury..

Edin Dzeko? Hmm...strikers have to be consistent ...now Wolfsburg lying low in league...compared to last year's glory...

we need some established striker...not strikers to be...Chamakh also i doubt...he is not top scorer or what...neither his Internation stat have tat 2:1 ratio....

hmmmm


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so david villa is the choice?
if his price tag around arshavin price, sure AW would already bought him.huhu
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Isnt the Villa and Silva rumored going to Man U?
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Isnt the Villa and Silva rumored going to Man U?
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and every big club in europe.
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What about Grafite?
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its unfair to say this player is a flop,
that player is a flop....all flop la like that

then if theres only 1-2 super strikers in the world. the other clubs will die?
jeez. cannot think like that one.

there are some that is a flop at certain clubs
some that isnt. very hard to say
i guess the best thing to do is, just trust whoever wenger signs,
if its chamkah then chamakh it is.....i would be glad, if he is not as good as we hope him to be
may AW polish him up.

thats just how we do things here,
as long as AW is Arsenal mgr, we gotta learn to accept his principle & mgt style


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1 thing for sure , Fabianski is a flop , lol . Big Time !


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QUOTE(chypher @ Feb 19 2010, 03:22 PM)
yea, it is indirect freekick but watch the goal one more time, you will see that sol campbell is trying to block the kick but the referee is blocking sol campbell from going to the ball.

I just don't get it why is the referee block our players.
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This .

The situation is very unfair , at least let campbell go for defense first . But there's nothing wrong about this actually .

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it is unfair because indirect FK inside the penalty box? Without any chance to defense while Sol is still arguing with the ref, the ref simply put the ball into the Porto player feet.
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again with the signing... haih...

someone mentioned we should used our extra money to get players... errr do we even have any extras?

signing an established players doesn't mean addressing ur needs. Chelsea signed sheva but he's a flop. Charlton signed Rommedahl but flop also. not only charlton got relegated, still fighting to keep pace in Championships. Liverpool... well u know la how many signings they had the past 5 years, it's say most of them flops. Wigan found a gem in Amr Zaki last season but he couldn't cope with EPL tough tackles, out for most of the season and never discover his form. ManU got berbatov but i think he's average at best. ManCity signed Robinho... flop. Who else?

Actually, AW has been signing gems the past 5 years (bar Silvestre.. ehehe). Nasri, yet to realise his potential but we all know he's no flop. at least not yet. Diaby, most of us given up on him but look at how he has come through the past few months. Song, no one wants him but look at what he has become. Rosicky, unlucky with injury but you know he can just turn up the heat anytime. Arshavin, i don't think he's a flop though coz it's tough for him without any support. Vermaelen, flop is it? u must be kidding me. Ramsey, glimpses of brilliance and this is one for the future. Walcott, like ramsey, showed glimpses of brilliance but he might be a flop though. i'd give him another 2 years. Fabianski? of course now people saying he's a flop but i say this with caution, watch Diaby. Eduardo, again unlucky with injury but i think he'll come thru before this season ends.

call me optimistic but I believe in the squad.

come on u gunners!
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no andrey not a flop
its just height matter
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fabianski is really a talented goalkeeper
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What about Grafite?
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QUOTE(leymar7 @ Feb 19 2010, 04:50 PM)
no andrey not a flop
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Definitely not a flop, his best position just isn't lone striker.
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And Liverpool.
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QUOTE(Angel of Deth @ Feb 19 2010, 04:29 PM)
it is unfair because indirect FK inside the penalty box? Without any chance to defense while Sol is still arguing with the ref, the ref simply put the ball into the Porto player feet.
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I've already corrected myself that there's nothing wrong about it . Just that the positioning of the referee caused the "situation" a little bit unfair .

QUOTE(leymar7 @ Feb 19 2010, 04:50 PM)
no andrey not a flop
its just height matter
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Yes , Andrey is certainly an excellent player . Don't forget that he is playing while bearing an injury which can only be corrected by surgery .

On addition , IMO , Andrey always played with the desire to win and did his past , just that the small injury was niggling him from performing as well as the past .
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There no flop in Arsenal team currently (Fabianski don't count cause he never actually have a run of games, though few of the game he play actually do make me feel doh.gif )

Just that sometime the player just off form, like Nasri, he is currently off form, he did perform well last year. Also, sometime I felt it the fault of the tactic that make some of our player perform under par, for example how can AW put Ashavin against giant like Rio Ferdinand and such up front alone?

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QUOTE(jim18992 @ Feb 19 2010, 06:24 PM)
There no flop in Arsenal team currently (Fabianski don't count cause he never actually have a run of games, though few of the game he play actually do make me feel doh.gif )

Just that sometime the player just off form, like Nasri, he is currently off form, he did perform well last year. Also, sometime I felt it the fault of the tactic that make some of our player perform under par, for example how can AW put Ashavin against giant like Rio Ferdinand and such up front alone?
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yeah..Gunners have potential...but the Q, when these potential gonna turn to results(winning cups?)...i believe in AW too...and most of my decision in my real life also based on his policy and philosophy...hehehe...

i think arsenal just looking fw to finish off their stadium payment first without asking board of directors by generating money themselves...how? get young player and sell expensive after nurturing em and qualify to champs league...qualifying to champs lge is not ez with young players(hats off to wenger in this case)....we'll see after 2012...
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QUOTE(skeleton202 @ Feb 19 2010, 06:41 PM)
fabianski is really a talented goalkeeper
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Yes and the best schoolgoalkeeper in the world by far laugh.gif

Even his captain Fabregas thinks he is the best school goalkeeper around sweat.gif
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QUOTE(kimhoong @ Feb 19 2010, 02:41 PM)
I believe most of us will feel okay if the freekick taker acknowledged the referee before taking it fast.

IINM, Henry did this before, but he verbally informed the referee first - correct me if I'm wrong though.

Anyway, the location of the freekick is "sensitive", the referee should had judged the situation more "rationally".
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Are you sure about the feeling okay part cuz from my experience, its never OK when opponent score from a quickly taken free kick when you dun even have your wall yet. From the defending side POV, the ref should only allow the freekick to be taken once the wall is fully formed. From the attacking side POV, they would like to play it at the best possible opportunity available in order to score. So whose side should be given the benefit? Obviously the attacking side because they were fouled in the first place. I still can remember Chelsea and Aston Villa players protesting furiously about Henry's quick freekick surrounding the ref and all like a bunch of maniacs, no need to mention what Mourinho said then cuz he was absolutely livid.

You are right, Henry did asked the ref first b4 taking the freekick, but hey this is Champions League football, not Sunday league where you need to be seeing every opportunity available in order to score. That quick thinking is what makes the differences in tight Champions League clashes. Remember Giggs' quickly taken freekick goal v Lille a couple of years back. Lille players even threatened to stop playing as a sign of protest but thats what you call naivety. I'll take a quote from Alan Hansen, "Bob Paisely used to tell us, put a damn man in front of the ball everytime the opponent gets a freekick".

Well, how sensitive is your sensitive? How sensitive is the ref's sensitive? Thats why you get controversial decisions now and then cuz ultimately its down to the ref's judgement. These things tend to even out, remember Fabregas's blatant handball to block Liverpool's freekick? Well, the ref thought it was alright then laugh.gif
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QUOTE(toshio14 @ Feb 19 2010, 06:40 PM)
i never thought Samir performed well enough to justify his price tag for the 1 season and a half he'd been with us so far. he's certainly is 1 of the main reason for our toothless attack for these past gloomy months we have for our striking department
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+1. I always rate him as average. Don't understand why you guys rated him so high. It is so obvious that he played outside the position
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+1. I always rate him as average. Don't understand why you guys rated him so high. It is so obvious that he played outside the position
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He is an ok player. Tho he not living up to his "Next Zidane" status last time when AW just bought him.
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He is an ok player. Tho he not living up to his "Next Zidane" status last time when AW just bought him.
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I thought georcuff is the next zidane?
Nasri was inconsistent this year. Probably the 2nd season syndrome

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Gourcuff so good .
If Wenger buy chamakh , he must get gourcuff .
both of them link up well .
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i would love to see fabregas link with georcuff


Added on February 19, 2010, 8:49 pmbut i guess its not quite possible tongue.gif

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Dam, I always like seeing Nasri play, I remember his superb display last season against Manchester United. Now... what happened? sad.gif

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Dam, I always like seeing Nasri play, I remember his superb display last season against Manchester United. Now... what happened? sad.gif
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yup.. still remember those 2 goals.. i bought nasri jersey 2 days later to commemorate that day.
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QUOTE(vcxv @ Feb 19 2010, 08:44 PM)
I thought georcuff is the next zidane?
Nasri was inconsistent this year. Probably the 2nd season syndrome
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the second season syndrome is when you have an excellent / good first season. i don't think we can say that at all for Samir

the thing that frustrate me is that he has it in him to play the front 3 role better. we saw it during the FA Cup match against West Ham. he played the wide attacking role in the front 3 excellently in that match. beats the hell out of me why he did not do that more often though

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i will tell you whats wrong with nasri...he is Fking FAT!!!! he need to lose that excess fat!!!! i cant see how did he become so fat....if he lose all those weight maybe he can become our messi...and he is not a winger...he has no pace at all...he should play CM..

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He's FAT?! Dont look like it lol.
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QUOTE(vcxv @ Feb 19 2010, 08:49 PM)
i would love to see fabregas link with georcuff


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If Fabs leave then maybe, but with both of them together in the team one of them will suffer. Fabs despite recent mediocre form, has flourished in the advanced midfielder role which coincidentally is Gourcuff's position in Bordeaux.

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interesting blog and read...
http://le-grove.co.uk/
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Le Grove is well known for their whines and Wenger bashing. When we win, they are somewhat boastful; but when results doesn't go our way they conduct witchhunt and call for Wenger's head. Not a good blog although it is fairly well written.

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I thought georcuff is the next zidane?
Nasri was inconsistent this year. Probably the 2nd season syndrome
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I remember he is branded as the next Zidane when AW bought him. It kind of like how there been so many Next Maradona for Argentina. They like to compare a lot of these young player which look like he is playing very good to the likes of these legendary player. Like how some branded Walcott as the next Henry.
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He's bald like henry, he kinda looks like Henry, but he can never replace Henry. ;\
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QUOTE(jim18992 @ Feb 20 2010, 09:43 AM)
I remember he is branded as the next Zidane when AW bought him. It kind of like how there been so many Next Maradona for Argentina. They like to compare a lot of these young player which look like he is playing very good to the likes of these legendary player. Like how some branded Walcott as the next Henry.
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lol ... GH also branded b.cheyrou as next zidane too last time ...

but still, nasri still too young to reach zidane level as zidane at the age of 26 only start his peak form of life, after the france 98 ...
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Arsenal ftw!!
They r going to kick all the contenders..
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post Feb 20 2010, 12:44 PM

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yeap... lots of our players are still below 24 and still learning to cope with big games. for sunderland game, i'd like to see Nasri on a more deep role, playing alongside Song box-to-box. i think he'll do well and he played there a couple of times and did good.

lineup for this weekend?

-manny-
Sagna-Sol-Vermy-Clichy
Song-Nasri
-Cesc-
Bendtner-Vela-Rosicky

i do hope Vela will start. Why i put NB52 at right wing? he's the most effective coming in from the right side. as the game goes on, he can interchange with rosicky and vela and play a more central role.

Sunderland have a good pair of CB. also, we have to watch out for Jones and Bent up front. I just hope Clichy and Sagna will stand their ground and do not venture forward too much. Jones is somewhat like Drogba. He can turn on the heat at any time. Bent is just like Rooney, very good positioning sense and killer finishing.

Come on u gunners!!!
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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Feb 20 2010, 06:20 AM)
If Fabs leave then maybe, but with both of them together in the team one of them will suffer. Fabs despite recent mediocre form, has flourished in the advanced midfielder role which coincidentally is Gourcuff's position in Bordeaux.
Le Grove is well known for their whines and Wenger bashing. When we win, they are somewhat boastful; but when results doesn't go our way they conduct witchhunt and call for Wenger's head. Not a good blog although it is fairly well written.
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i think gourcuff has more speed, skill and lots of tricks than fab....but fab has more vision and intelligence..cant compare them..if fab would to leave us this summer...i hope that wenger use that money to get goucuff...

well le grove is a blog that give credit where credit is due...when the team is winning they praise them...when they lose miserably like against chelsea or man utd..cant say that they are totally wrong..but sometimes they tend to go overboard...but still a fun read...

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Do you even think we can afford to sign gourcuff? He's the best player in bordeoux, and lotsa clubs are tracking him. But he could be a good replacement for fab, but i think Wenger would rather use the money and spend it wisely. Nasri to takeover Fabregas' role tongue.gif

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so, no live @ astro tonight ?
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QUOTE(waruna @ Feb 20 2010, 02:01 PM)
so, no live @ astro tonight ?
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huish...ado la


we will win tonite...sunderland also having injury crisis! rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(waruna @ Feb 20 2010, 02:01 PM)
so, no live @ astro tonight ?
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how u said no live?? got live la buddy... go read newspaper....
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eh got live? yahoooooooooooooooooo.. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif .. i tot everytime the match go on ATVO, there's no live @ astro. my badd.. thanks guys :*

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