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English Clubs Arsenal Street Talk, 10/3 03:45 ARS vs POR | FT: ARS 3-1 BUR

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post Feb 18 2010, 05:31 AM

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Seems like the moment we cross the half pitch line... we just kept passing the ball back to Porto players sad.gif
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post Feb 20 2010, 11:29 PM

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Bendtner!!!!

Though the lads were really bordering on walking the ball to the net laugh.gif

Still, a goal is a goal biggrin.gif
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post Feb 20 2010, 11:40 PM

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Heart attack!!
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post Feb 28 2010, 03:01 AM

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Bloody hell... teams always take it to the next level whenever it comes to roughing us up...


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post Feb 28 2010, 03:21 AM

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Good good, but match is still not over yet... still need to focus on defense and protect the lead!!
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post Mar 2 2010, 03:20 AM

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QUOTE(giotto @ Mar 2 2010, 12:28 AM)
Im with Aaron Ramsey and Arsenal thru and thru but i feel the allegation that Shawcross went in with the intention to break AR leg is just too far fetch honestly. If you study the video replay, you'd notice RS had a touch too heavy and was going for the follow up 50-50 ball when he caught AR with a heavy challenge. Dirty/late/heavy...definitely yes, but definitely not with the intention to break someone's leg. Besides, there was no beef between both prior to that incident. Also, he was crying while leaving the pitch and that clearly shows how bad he felt over the whole incident. If you watched how Roy Keane sent that flying tackle to Alfie Inge Haaland and how he reacted when he got up and talked smack and just storm out of the pitch, that is when you see the difference between by purpose and accidental.

Having also read about how RS broke Jeffers ankle and went in with a heavy challenge on Adebayor, i would again emphasize that RS is a dirty player. The Jeffers incident, no comment coz there's no video replay but the Adebayor one, definitely dirty challenge coz he went for the ankle while the ball was out and there was simply no reason for that slide as the ball was on the way out. No doubt that he's a dirty lil scum for the 3 challenge that he put in but maybe he didnt think he would potentially end someone's career with that sort of lunge. However to think that someone goes into a pitch to break someone's leg, as a profesisonal footballer, that is unthinkable. Maybe some lower 3rd or 4th tier division where players are not properly train both mentally and physically, it could happen, the violence and the lack of professional footballing brains.

Should he be given a longer ban? This is a sticky question. He's already been punished with a red card in the game. The rules states that a player cannot be punish again when he's been dealt with during the game.
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I think most of us here, if not all, think that Shawcross does not have any intention to break Ramsey's leg. But as a lot of Arsenal bloggers and some of us here pointed out, focusing on Shawcross's intent is missing out the entire point.

What we're advocating is for players to be more responsible with their tackles instead of recklessly lunging about, so as to protect both the players themselves and the players around them. Had Shawcross been more careful with his tackles, Ramsey probably wouldn't have broken his leg and I'd probably be spared feeling absolutely sick about how the media and pundits are reacting to this. Likewise the FA and the referees have failed us because they seem to tolerate all these reckless tackles and naturally nothing was learned since the Eduardo incident. Both the FA and the referees can very well learn from some of the examples provided in this article:

Why Stoke Type Thuggery Is Not Allowed In Spain And Italy/

Then again, judging by how the media and pundits are jumping in to defend Shawcross with the same old tired excuses that they've used for Taylor after the Eduardo incident... it's safe to say that until it happens to one of the England star players, they wouldn't get the point we're trying to make into the thick numbskulls.

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QUOTE(BoltonMan @ Mar 2 2010, 09:37 PM)
i sure arsenal will win home to porto ... and in the league ... is still wide open ... man utd and chelsea will sure drop points since still compete in CL ... same to gunners ... who drop lesser point will be the champion ...
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Nah don't bother arguing with him... I think even if we win the league, he'll just point towards the next season and say that we won't be able to retain the title.
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post Mar 4 2010, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Mar 4 2010, 08:04 PM)
Well done. Go out in public and destroys a young player's confidence and undermines his ability. I'm so glad that we have a sensible manager who protects his players instead of all these rubbish ex-players talking as if they know a lot about developing starlets.

I don't buy all these crap that is aimed at Theo for now; in fact I pity the player. Before he even started playing at top level, he was hyped to the sky and now everybody is just turning their backs on him especially his own countrymen.

Now go tell Pearce and Capello not to pick Theo for their national teams. Then he'll get less injuries and play more for the Arsenal.
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While I agree with you that AW protects his player, he did however contribute to the hype by suggesting to Sven to take Theo to World Cup 2006. Then again he probably thought that the idea of bringing Theo with England squad to WC 2006 would have helped in his development, but the sad thing is that this have actually worked against Theo because the expectations of him was brought even higher despite him not playing for even a single minute.

If Theo wasn't included in the WC 2006 squad, the attention on him probably would have been much lesser. But again, hindsight is a wonderful thing... so the next best thing now is actually for AW to convince Pearce and Capello not to include Theo in the national team until Theo gets more experience and confidence. This of course, comes from having a run of games, which Theo isn't getting.

With experience, Theo would become better at decision making, and with confidence, he would be able to handle the pressure from fans better.
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QUOTE(kanelee @ Mar 6 2010, 09:23 AM)
Well point 1 might barely be acceptable (after all how does a thug knows how to tackle well? laugh.gif )

2. I could agree with you but not entirely.When a player lunged in recklessly eg Shawcross on Ramsey ,it wasn't surprising for an injury to happen.Just not the extent of Ramsey's horror injury.

3. This I totally don't agree.The thug already had 'proven' track record of smashing others leg or lunging in recklessly eg Jeffers,Greedybayor thus his crying stunt just give me the feeling of 'Oscar Academy Award Winning Performance'.So I believe he would still goes into tackle with the same recklessness and carefree attitude since the media/managers will give him a 'Free out of jail card' and making him look like the victim instead of the one get decked should the same kind of thing happens again.I sincerely hoped karma will bite him fast and hard.

And finally..the media bash us,we bash the media,its just human nature to react to provokes. Maybe your team hardly experience media witchhunt like Arsenal did eg Eduardo injury/diving and the current incident.Well its maybe just me.Thats my opinion and peace icon_rolleyes.gif
The bolded part should change into ENGLISH..then we can see how they react when its a fellow ENGLISHMEN instead of OL JOHNNY FOREIGNER that commit the 'sin'.
Well the main issue here is Shawcross broke Ramsey's leg and yet still have a 'tough few days' compared to Ramsey's tough 'months' .I believe most of us were more mad at Shawcross breaking Ramsey's leg and/or the media portrayal of POOR SHAWCROSS. I admit the England call up during the heat of the moment I looked at it as a 'reward' for that stupid stunt.But after cooling down I look at it as a side dish instead of the main dish.
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It happened already: Shawcross on Jeffers.

But of course, Jeffers is not important enough to generate a reaction from the media.

Enough with this Shawcross Ramsey incident, I think most of us here can agree with the fact that there is way too much sympathy shown to Shawcross compared to Ramsey and the English media in general is too thick headed to realize who the real victim is from the incident.

The best way to take our 'revenge' (for lack of a better word to use) against the media and the sort of football advocated by BPL is for us to win the league. Let's see what they have to say when the 'softies'/'pansies' can win a league that's made up of 'real men'.

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