This thread is to discuss the best shoes made in the traditional way: The highest quality uppers of incomparable depth and sheen, an absorptive insole of leather, a conforming bed of cork, and a tough leather outsole. Long-lasting, beautiful and with a hospitable climate within the shoe, they bring old world elegance and taste to wherever the wearer goes.

for the price I would go for a custom made shoe here: leather lining, insole and sole of your choice -rubber, leather you name it. And they make it to your choice of design, of course within their range of skill.

Where? USJ 8 around Restaurant Syed.

Patronize local products. and how much you might ask? rm200 and above depending on your choice of design and accessories.

I am a happy customer. And they make ladies shoes and boots too, not only for men.

Interesting. I wouldn't get my hopes up too high, but might pop in someday soon.

good news to hear. will u share with us photos of your purchases so we can see how they are?

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Added on September 24, 2009, 9:31 pmfeedback from a friend who got some C&Js and cheaneys from PLal. he loves the C&Js but says the cheaneys are not very good

This post has been edited by lanatir: Sep 24 2009, 09:31 PM

Any P Lai branch around PJ area?

There is quite a number of made to order shoes in pertama complex (the complex besides sogo). I think they have been there since the last couple of decades. Some shops also specializes in leather products such as bags, belts, wallet among others. I'm also being told that they can customize shoes for disabled people.You might want to check it out

This post has been edited by zaidizero: Sep 24 2009, 11:39 PM

any italian shoes that same grade to cheaneys?

Gratuitous shoe porn



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found this website..

http://www.selectism.com/news/tag/shoes/page/13/

For the first time ever, I bought something off ebay from Malaysia. I'm hoping paypal etc. will work out and that I won't need to go to customs.

I've eyed vintage Florsheim Imperials even during my university days, but where I studied they were very expensive even in ebay. On the American ebay they're much cheaper and plentiful.

They don't look very elegant, but they're so unusual by modern standards I must try a pair for myself. It's obvious they're built in a way few shoes are anymore.

These Florsheim shoes i have seen a few times worn by my customers from Singapore. I think its readily available there. I think i saw them being sold in Pavilion parkson also right?

No, these shoes share no resemblance to the modern Florsheim. Somewhere in the late 80's/early 90's Florsheim went into Chapter 13 (bankrupt) and outsourced production to India and made everything differently. The pair above were made from the 60's to 80's.

I'm sort of hoping they have oak-tanned insoles (2 year tanning process) and real Goodyear welting. On a German shoe forum, a bespoke shoemaker took apart a modern C&J Handgrade and found the insole made of compacted leather fibers and the use of a canvas-something instead of real Goodyear welting.

This post has been edited by kotmj: Sep 30 2009, 01:37 AM

my new timberland

One thing about these leather soled shoes, is when you walk on tiles or smoth surface, its very glidey. Almost slippery. Once the sole shows wear, its even more pronounced. But i can vouch that when the soles are in contact with water, they are magically grippy! Beats the hell out of those gummy sole sneakers i have.

Anyway, these leather soled shoes are very high maintenance. And you need to see where you walk also. No water, no rocky pavements, no extreme bending, blah blah.

This post has been edited by netmatrix: Oct 1 2009, 10:18 AM

Moisture is the biggest enemy of leather soles.

Where can I find galoshes in Malaysia?

My Ikon Original Shoes

Made In Portugal

Very Fomous in Vesparian and Lammy boys in World

i think only something like this, hardware shop..


i just stand by another pair of shoes for all weather in my car, for just in case...

This post has been edited by e_trade_pj: Oct 1 2009, 07:49 PM

I sort of was looking for something more elegant than wellingtons.

Djdusker are those driving shoes?

Loake Durham in chestnut, today at the office.

should i wash my black leather shoe???

what for?

Thread title "black leather shoe" merged..

Wash leather shoe??? Holy cow!!! This is gotta see!

did you guys check it out on Tang's Sales.. a lot of leather shoe on sales.. somes up to 70%..

I've seen those before. I haven't found anything compelling there. (They're all Italian.)

Italian means, they are fancy and artsy and not comfortable. hahaha.

yes, Italian shoes look more trendy, but about the comfortable, i think is price matter..
i found the Italian shoes that selling in Malaysia, the mark up is very high and when the sales come will offer up to 50%.. and always don't know what brand is it (i try to check on the internet that all the Italian Shoes that i bought, satu pun tak kena.. )

Sweet!!

Just curious, with what colour pants do you wear brown shoes with? I see you're wearing white in that picture, any other colour pants that matches well with brown shoes? The only other I can think of would be light grey.

Thanks

I think shoes should be some shade of brown. Anything from tan to oxblood is preferable to black. Leather looses all it's organic charm when dyed black.

The pic is overexposed because of the dark carpet. The trousers are cream.

I think brown shoes work with everything except black or charcoal. Here you see the great Giugiaro (designer of the first VW Golf, the Fiat Punto, and the Nikon F3) wearing a darkish suit with brown shoes to great effect.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYugHu7_D4U

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Added on October 10, 2009, 11:06 pmCan't help it. Here's one of the most tasteful car ads I've seen!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_F9ftNCboA0&NR=1

This post has been edited by kotmj: Oct 10 2009, 11:06 PM

Hey Sifus! I have a few leather shoes and i take good care of them but i do not know which product should i use i was about to polish my hugo boss oxford shoes today and this question came to my mind after looking through all the products i have for shoes



Heres the picture!

from left to right

Tarrago- Protects against liquid - for all kind of leather

PALC - Self Shining shoe cream for Dark Brown Shoes

Kiwi - Colour Shine Brown Instand Polish

Minit - Cleans, protects and cares in an instant

Aldo - Instant Gloss

Woly - Fashion Leather Cream for Black Shoes

After polishing a shoe do you remove the old polish and polish it all over again?

Or do you polish over the the previous polishes?

Thank you very much!

I suck in taking good cares for me shoes but i love them =)

ADVICE NEEDED ~.~ what kind of leather shoes suit slim cut pants? picture..? i am kinda skinny so most of my pants are slim cut... and is it ok if i wear smart casual (jeans) with leather shoes or its strange?

Go for Oxfords! But i think only some people can pull it off! Not me I'm too short! haha oh well.. But Oxfords is a must for everyone then i think monk strap!

pls throw away all of them except maybe the woly. u can use the woly as a form of cream.

then, if u don't want to go to PLal for saphir, i suggest u buy urself some kiwi waxes to top off the cream. none of the wipe on super shine nonsense.

That's exactly what I'd say too. Keep woly, throw everything else away. Also, buy a horsehair brush for each wax colour.

depends on what kind of leather shoes you're looking for, loafers can be leather as well.. slim cut pants go well with narrow shoes..

yes dress shoes are fine with jeans.. maybe you'd wanna go for oxfords or wing-tips, or loafers which are more casual.. dark brown is pretty versitile..



oxfords are fine for short ppl, just go for narrower tips and ones which don't look too heavy for your feet..

Real men shoes are made of leather.

This post has been edited by calvinloke: Oct 14 2009, 01:59 PM

Oh i totally forgotten about wingtips! where can i get wingtips again?

do i need to bring my shoe along or can i just install it my self? because my shoes are pretty heavy i cant bring every shoes there

are you asking to INSTALL wingtips to your shoes?!??

btw wingtips are the batwing shape at the front (vamp/toebox zone)


on another note, gorgeous AE Evanston


This post has been edited by lanatir: Oct 14 2009, 03:17 PM

ohh ok thanks ^^ gonna go try them out... btw for wing-tips, what brand you would suggest? any recommend?

This post has been edited by morning06: Oct 14 2009, 10:04 PM

guys...I too need some real men's shoes.....bored with sneakers....as I have no shoes for special occasions....would like to buy sumthin that can be worn casually and on special occasions....like the shoe in the pic jind86 posted....any reccomendations?

What's your budget chuakz?

erm...bout 400 maybe....

http://thestar.com.my/lifestyle/story.asp?...7&sec=lifefocus

I wonder if he makes men's shoes...

buy leather boot also very nice lox ~ camel active shoe quite nice ~~

saw a couple of Clarks goodyear welted shoes in isetan for RM400-600 iirc.

The Isetan in KLCC is having some 'huge sales' for shoes. I saw Allen Edmonds going for RM 800 from the original price of RM 2700.

Hi

I am currently looking for 1-2 pairs of formal working shoes. One with lace and another slip on.

Is there any decent discount for any shoes of the decent brands, the lines of Bally or Church at this point of time?

Any other suggestions will be greatly welcomed too.

Thank you for your time in advance!

Just get yourself to P.Lal. Best fixed price in the universe. I'll be there this afternoon to blow some bonus money.

Looks good from the site I googled upon.

Might swing by too at some point of time this weekend.

*Edit: Thanks Kotmj for the recommendation.

This post has been edited by tales: Jan 2 2010, 12:22 PM

Thread title "Discount for Formal Shoes" by tales merged..

holy!!! what shoe is tis???

how much does it cost??

Can't let you know. Now go back to wearing your pair of Hugo Boss.

Noo shoos

Nice Pedros.

Pedros? Elaborate.

It's such a nice pair. It has to be from Pedro. How much?

Cheany's. RM 699.

I wanted a Loake 758 (RM 621), but it wasn't so hot. Last a bit boxy, and the nap not as luxurious as the Cheany's.

Three suede Cheany's in my size, and one in tobacco was very, very nice. However, this chocolate has shorter nap and more distinct brouging, and simply looks more formal, which is an advantage because I need dual-use shoes.

Fine. Cheanys

This is the Loake 758. It made me salivate the whole week. Yours for RM 621.



But when I tried it on, it wasn't anywhere as good as the Cheany's or the Loake 1880 I have.

i dont have any from hugo boss!! they are too manly brand!

cmon bro!!! i really like to know about that shoe !! looks great! hope its on my budget!!! plz do tell more detials

ooo cohiba..

It's a Gaziano & Girling bespoke crocodile shoe. I think it's out of the budget of 99.999999% of the population. But then what would I know, I'm cheap.

This post has been edited by kotmj: Jan 3 2010, 11:52 AM

damn a bespoke crocodile shoe thats crazy

but it is so beautiful..

This post has been edited by Flizzardo: Jan 3 2010, 08:07 PM

haha, it is definitely within flizzardo budget.

its uncanny how much a proper pair of shoes cost..
i m still not willing to spend more then RM350 for a pair as considering they are going to hit unknown surfaces.. i would have to be so so careful

what do you guys think of braun buffel shoes?
i m sure they dun compare to florsheim, c&j, loakes but their leather i m sure is pretty fine..

This post has been edited by d3vilzzzz: Jan 4 2010, 12:10 PM

Braun Bueffel are for microtimers.

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Added on January 4, 2010, 12:54 pmTo give you guys an idea of heaven (pics not mine).





This post has been edited by kotmj: Jan 4 2010, 12:57 PM

wow!

microtimers hehe nth notable abt their leather
but their prices are comparable to florsheim? i guess their lower and mid range shoes

I'd rather buy used shoes from ebay than Braun Bueffel.

50 pairs of shoes..

Question to all sifu, how can what are the proper way to lace a oxford. Thank you.

YO kockroach

I use this method

http://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/ianknot.htm

This is a really fast and a very neat method because it is even both laces would fall to the sides

Aiks, thanks for it.

hi guys..i'm 21 this year and i'm looking for a black men's leather shoe which comes with nice stylish design and comfortable at the same time..any brand recommendations and where can i get it from? budget around RM 350 - RM 400..thanks

The problem with wearing good shoes is that you need a shoe horn to get into them. I have one in the office, one in the car, and one at home. Yet, sometimes, I have to remove my shoe in a place without a shoe horn. Here is the solution. I have threaded it into my bunch of keys so it's with me wherever I go.







This post has been edited by kotmj: Jan 7 2010, 11:48 PM

First choice; Pedro
else you can alwiz look at Hush Puppies, Scholl, you can check out departmental stores like Isetan, Metrojaya, Parkson; lotsa variety there

go for the Tangs sale. during peak, those RM500-700 shoes should fit your budget after sales discounts.

is there any shop in KL selling Kowalski?

Another option is to have a pair custom made. I was in a small town a few days ago to see the doctor, and stopped in to an old-fashioned shoe shop to see if they have any cedar wood shoe trees (old stock from, say, 30 years ago) for RM 20 or something. The shop proprietor showed me a pair of shoes he was making for a customer. It has a leather sole (glued, not welted), and he was hand-dyeing the uppers (I'm not certain if the uppers are leather). The quality is nowhere like English handmade/benchmade shoes, but for RM200 it is an interesting deal. I imagine there are many more shoemakers like him all over the country. Maybe there is a star shoemaker among them.

Here's something I posted on FB for friends.



My Goodyear-welted leather sole, topgrain Oxford brogues. The working man's classic.

The rules are, don't step into a puddle and try not to get them wet. Moisture seeps through the leather and makes the insides moist and stinky. Polish at least once a week or if it gets scuffed. After polishing with mink oil enriched black shoe polish, leather soles have to be cleaned (I use STP Tuff Stuff multi-purpose foam cleaner) and mink oil/wax applied to the soles to prevent moisture ingress.

Cedar shoe trees (Nico Schmid seen here) are a must for this sort of shoe. After a days use the shoe has to 'rest' for 24 hours and dry out. The shoe tree is placed inside a shoe to preserve its shape, stop it from developing creases, thereby extending the life of the shoe.

Nice-smelling cedar helps control odor and absorb moisture. Higher quality shoe trees are often made with two or three pieces of solid wood with a solid metal stem inserted between the heel piece and the single or double toe piece/s which have a spring action so the trees fit more snugly into the shoes. They often have handles or brass knobs at the heel piece for the fingers to grasp and pull out the trees from the shoe when removing them.

Lastly, use a shoehorn. Every time you jam your heel into a shoe, an old English cobbler dies.

REFERENCES:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_shoe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welt_(shoe)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoe_polish
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mink_oil

wow, nice pair of shoe..where can i get it from here? and how much u bought it for?

Some specs:

- Topgrain leather (corrected grain)
- Rubber heel (more practical for those who do a lot of standing on their feet)

I got this pair, brand new for RM119.90 in PJ.

What a price.

Do show us the soles

Here it is!

What make are they? I don't mind getting some as a beater pair.

Kulitkraf. Malaysian Govt. supplier. These are used by Malaysian military, etc. For topgrain (corrected grain) cowskin (not calfskin) Goodyear welted brogue Oxfords this is a good price. The sole stitching is a bit rough but these are military shoes we're talking about here.

Holy pfhuck, nice shoes at an incredible price.

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Added on January 8, 2010, 11:45 pmIs the insole made of leather? I mean a 4 mm thick insole, not a sock liner.

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Added on January 9, 2010, 12:17 amHere is my black full brogue. I just water polished it 5 minutes ago to show you guys my superior skillz.



This post has been edited by kotmj: Jan 9 2010, 12:17 AM

Well just about any ex Kadet Polis member like me, or ex Govt. employee knows Kulitkraf.

The ones I got are the best. Topgrain cowskin (calfskin is finer), but it's corrected grain meaning they take cowskin which has marks from barbed wire and insect bites and hot-stamp it to 'correct' it. That's why it's cheaper, but as strong and as good. Stitching is rougher than the more expensive makes. It's for military use. If you hang around the beryani shops near MINDEF/PULAPOL you'll see a lot of officer types using these shoes.

From eye level/1 metre away most people would easily confuse these with an RM2680 pair of Church's! Hahahaha!

The inner sole is some synthetic material.

All black shoes nowadays are corrected grain. With black, it makes little difference. It is in brown shoes where the better ones are aniline dyed.

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Added on January 9, 2010, 12:47 amIt's a pity the insole is synthetic. Maybe Kulitkraft can custom make a shoe with a leather insole. It makes a big difference.

This post has been edited by kotmj: Jan 9 2010, 12:47 AM

I dunno why I never llike brogues. Maybe because of those holes

But I do like, I mean seriously like tanned lace-ups. But very hard to find a pair that's cheap which I really like in KL. I'm poor


Oh, they're not welted though.

biker voodoo, good job!

i really really like the westbourne and it's next on my list. fell in love after seeing a friend wear a pair with his jeans.





followed closely with the selbourne

Kulitkraf is a factory and they mainly do HUGE orders for Govt. By right they shouldn't be bothered with retail but they have a small showroom and can even handle credit card orders. Good customer service.

Don't expect Loake style finishing. The stitching is a bit rougher and the inner lining is synth. The rubber heel is actually better for Malaysian conditions IMHO compared to a stacked leather heel.

Can't argue with 119.90! A good shoe to beat around, it looks near enough, good enough and you can let your Loakes/Churches/etc. dry out for 24 hours and wear the Kulitkraf one. The model I got is OLG1010.

This post has been edited by kotmj: Jan 10 2010, 04:03 PM

where do u guys get the shoes polisher, and how much?
been looking for one for ages.