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post Aug 5 2009, 04:28 PM, updated 11y ago

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Maxis set for US$2b listing

KUALA LUMPUR, Aug 5 — Maxis Communications, the country’s top mobile operator, has chosen Goldman Sachs, Credit Suisse and CIMB to advise it on a planned US$2 billion (RM7 billion) listing in Kuala Lumpur, two sources told Reuters today.

In one of the biggest listings in Southeast Asia in the last few years, Maxis's public offering is likely to take place by the end of this year and the company may raise more than US$2 billion by selling shares, sources told Reuters.

The plan comes as IPOs spring back to life in booming markets in Asia, led by China after new share offerings grinded to a halt last year due to the meltdown in markets.

"There is no announcement at this point. An announcement will be made at the appropriate time," Catherine Leong, Maxis' head of public relations, told Reuters.

Maxis' move comes after Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak said last month he had asked Maxis Communications Bhd to re-list on Bursa Malaysia to boost liquidity and draw in investors to Southeast Asia's most laggard stock market so far this year.

"It will create some sort of excitement (in the stock market) because it was the darling of investors then and it had substantial foreign shareholdings too," said Abdul Jalil Rasheed, head of equities at Aberdeen Asset Management's Malaysia unit.

Goldman Sachs, Credit Suisse and CIMB declined to comment on the share sale plans. The sources declined to be identified because details of the deal are not public.

The Malaysian market is up 34 per cent this year versus a 50 per cent rise in Singapore's main index.

Maxis was de-listed by reclusive tycoon Tan Sri Ananda Krishnan, who controls 75 per cent of Maxis, in 2007. The rest is owned by state-owned Saudi Telecom Co Ltd.

Krishnan, ranked by Forbes magazine as Malaysia's second-richest man at US$7 billion, also owns pay-television operator Astro All Asia Networks and Tanjong Plc, a power and gaming group, and satellite operator Measat Global, through his investment vehicles.

Shares of Astro and Measat have surged 7.9 per cent and 10 per cent respectively since June 4 when market talk first emerged Maxis will be re-listed through an injection into one of the companies. — Reuters

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/index.p...or-us2b-listing

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Good news indeed.

But with the listing of Maxis, I wonder which stock will be kicked out from KLCI30. whistling.gif
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digi..haha biggrin.gif
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post Aug 5 2009, 05:42 PM

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WooHoo!
great news indeed... wait for them to announce it officialy.. rclxm9.gif
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They should kick out MAS from FBM KLCI -.-'
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QUOTE(mopster @ Aug 5 2009, 05:42 PM)
WooHoo!
great news indeed... wait for them to announce it officialy..  rclxm9.gif 
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They should kick out MAS from FBM KLCI -.-'
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MAS is a suitable candidate, they sure want to kick the worst one out.
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will there be conflict of interest between PM & CIMB ---- N & N factor hmm.gif

if this goes through, the other N will end up pocketing large sums of $$$
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QUOTE(flydragon @ Aug 5 2009, 04:53 PM)
What is the final price of Maxis b4 quit klse?
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RM15.60 if I am not mistaken. It's VERY expensive.

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QUOTE(flydragon @ Aug 5 2009, 04:53 PM)
What is the final price of Maxis b4 quit klse?
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QUOTE(flydragon @ Aug 5 2009, 06:46 PM)
Anyway, still cheaper than DiGi. rclxms.gif
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The last transaction of Maxis mean nothing for newly IPO, as Maxis can issue more share or having different sturcture for the listing which the details is yet to be known.

Share price mean nothing, if they issue more or having low par value, then share price will be lower, just like what Airasia did, instead of mostly par value at Rm1, Airasia issued the par value at Rm0.10, so it's IPO become Rm1.xx. If it is Rm1 par value, then it is Rm1x.xx
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they sold 30% share at RM5 with discount price to someone and announced to private the company and buy back the share at peak price at RM17.

Someone need money now, that why Maxis listing again!!!!!!
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QUOTE(kellyC @ Aug 5 2009, 04:49 PM)
digi..haha biggrin.gif
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probaly faiulure in india and indonesia .. now come back to ask malaysian to help ..

and i hate when astro raised the fees for sports subsribers vmad.gif
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do you think axiata will go down because of maxis listing? im pretty in dark here since i plan to buy axiata
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QUOTE(mmusang @ Aug 6 2009, 05:04 PM)
do you think axiata will go down because of maxis listing? im pretty in dark here since i plan to buy axiata
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Maxis IPO plans seen affecting telco shares
http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIM...icle/index_html

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post Aug 7 2009, 06:23 AM

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.... maxis was delisted ....and now again want to go IPO.... so we are chasing it like a fool...... if good earning...then privatize it and if need money then turn to public.... may be i got a wrong perception why a company being listed and privatized smile.gif


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"A" money...... haha
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guess maxis learned their lessons

axiata and digi are expanding due to public funding while maxis expansion has been slowed

it is sensible to relist again to retain the top position, in addition, telco coy needs a lot of money for expansion

loading bullets for maxis biggrin.gif
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i'm interested in subscribing the IPO. any idea how can i apply for it??
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QUOTE(indefinitor @ Aug 25 2009, 12:06 AM)
i'm interested in subscribing the IPO. any idea how can i apply for it??
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We aren't even sure if Maxis is really going to list.

First of all, open a CDS account from any of the broking houses. Then apply for whatever IPO that you're interested. Don't wait until your favourite IPO start listing process only you go and apply for CDS account because it takes a while for approval.




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Hi, thanks for the advice pal...i already have a CDS account but just no activity done at all...But i have a gut feeling that Maxis will be relisted very soon since they have submitted the listing application to SC as well as hired few banks for the application.
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QUOTE(indefinitor @ Aug 25 2009, 01:52 PM)
Hi, thanks for the advice pal...i already have a CDS account but just no activity done at all...But i have a gut feeling that Maxis will be relisted very soon since they have submitted the listing application to SC as well as hired few banks for the application.
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When they announce, don't worry plenty of us will be lining up with you ^^
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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Aug 25 2009, 02:14 PM)
When they announce, don't worry plenty of us will be lining up with you ^^
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sure mate.....but anyone have any idea on the estimated or predicted listing price? what is the percentage that it will go up? this will allow us to save some bullets to buy the IPO as well as predicting the profit that the investors will gain...
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Still too early to predict the when is the IPO moreover the price....
Nevertheless, it's good to start getting ready your capital now tongue.gif

Maxis submitted the first set of IPO documents to SC on 16/8 (if im not wrong). This is only the first of many steps to list a company. A typical IPO will take a few months and dont forget that Hari Raya and Deepavali are around the corner. Hopefully this IPO will be an exception whereby they will expedite things a little, since our PM had personally suggested for them to relist.

Although highly likely that Maxis will be a good bluechip, it is also wise to look at their prospectus and competitors before jumping into it. The new Maxis may not be the same Maxis few years ago. Their policy, vision, business plan may have changed over time. Just my opinion, correct me if I'm wrong.

I've a strong feeling the IPO will be over-subscribed lol.... laugh.gif

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ya, i'm sure it will definitely be over subscribed with all the news and rumors flying around...eagerly to know when will be the confirmed listing date and how to apply for it.....
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Wonder if the price will drop below its IPO price. Between Digi and Maxis, which will give more value to its shareholders?
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I will go for MAXIS.

Hope the listing price is par value RM1, price is RM5.00
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How did you arrive at the RM5.00 IPO price?
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QUOTE(simplesmile @ Aug 26 2009, 02:21 PM)
Wonder if the price will drop below its IPO price. Between Digi and Maxis, which will give more value to its shareholders?
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Maxis, a market leader.

Just get ready the $$$....1st hour of listing day will be crucial. If get 'last price' pun okie oredi.

......."If Maxis re-lists in its entirety, we suggest switching from Axiata to Maxis, given that its Indian and Indonesian operations are starting from smaller bases and offer the greatest growth potential. As a result, Maxis will offer the highest potential for capital appreciation compared to Axiata," ECM Libra noted"........

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any idea when listing?
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Maxis to offer 2.25b IPO shares

KUALA LUMPUR: Maxis Communications Bhd (MCB) plans to list its Malaysian operations Maxis Bhd (Maxis), under an initial public offering (IPO) which will involve 2.25 billion shares, of which 2.075 billion will be offered to institutions and the remaining 174.79 million for the public and its customers.

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Added on September 18, 2009, 8:25 pmAccording to the article, Maxis has been growing since it was delisted... subscribers, profit, etc..

It also says that Maxis will only list its Malaysian Operations. Does this mean business in India and Indon are not included ? The income in Malaysia will probably be stable but what about growth ? hmm.gif

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sorry newbie question. How do I subscribe to IPO if i am using nominee account ? Can do online ?
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QUOTE(mopster @ Sep 18 2009, 08:06 PM)
It also says that Maxis will only list its Malaysian Operations. Does this mean business in India and Indon are not included ? The income in Malaysia will probably be stable but what about growth ?  hmm.gif
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Could be, if not mistaken, one of the reason why Maxis is taken private previously is want to get rid of other investors, by then they have more flexibility in term of capital access while whatever decision made can be done via they own wish, doesn't need to go through shareholder mandate or answer to them.
So with the response of PM calls, it list its Malaysia operation business only, instead of MCB which is taken private previously.

We don't know the actual reason, no one will disclose it unless there is full access to the company issue, which for a private company, they don't need to disclose it. But they must have their own good reason and consideration why they don't want to list MCB.

Malaysian Operations is stable but still have some growth, but surely won't as much as other booming or lowly tapped market. It still has some room to grow, as long as there is population and economy growth.

If it is only Malaysia operation, then it means it is like TM and Axiata, which TM become a good and purely dividend stock but growth rate become lesser or little, so the Maxis structure could be identical which they separate out the international business and local.

International business can have lot of room to grow, but it doesn't come without risk. In fact, the major risk is come from financing issue, as lot of capital needed.

The downside of the proposal is that the parent company holds 70% of Maxis Malaysia which could affect its liquidity issue.

It is a bit dissapointment that they only list Maxis Malaysia, instead of MCB, but it is better than none. KLSE simply lack of this kind of company to attract more investors as well as more options for real solid company that can bring benefits to investors.
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Anyone knows the exact date of offer for this IPO? Kinda interested to subscribe it... biggrin.gif
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definitely would be over-subscribed tongue.gif

me wan to try my luck too~!
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Sep 19 2009, 11:53 AM)
definitely would be over-subscribed tongue.gif

me wan to try my luck too~!
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I bet 99% chance it will oversubsribed, because the public portion is very little only compared to its overall company size.
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Maxis Communications Bhd (MCB) plans to list its Malaysian operations Maxis Bhd (Maxis), under an initial public offering (IPO) which will involve 2.25 billion shares, of which 2.075 billion will be offered to institutions and the remaining 174.79 million for the public and its customers.


175 million for public and customers is lower end of IPO size for such a reputable, branded company.


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Agree with cherroy's observation.

After spending some time going through a few sections of the prospectus, I'm not exactly blown away by what I've seen so far. The main engine for growth in my mind is the Indian operations, Aircel, appears to be carved out. Seems to me that MCB is basically raising proceeds to fund the capex it will need to make in Aircel, India. So what about Listco then? The Msian mobile market is relatively mature, so growth potential is limited in my opinion. 75% dividend policy on declining ARPU in recent periods doesn't bode too well, particularly in a market with increasing competition. Also where is senior management's focus going to be - defending Msian market or growing India?

I've been wondering where all the cash PNB has been raising recently is going to go - I think I know now. Frankly, if you start seeing high valuations, say P/E 15+, then I wouldn't bet my house on the IPO.
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I have this gut feeling no matter how much we analyse their prospectus and likely earnings of Malaysia Ops, it doesn't really matter once you get the IPO. Since it's almost a guaranteed profit upon listing.

Long term is still questionable, but very short term gain from striking this IPO is almost inevitable. It's not a question whether it's worth buying, its a question of whether you get to buy or not.
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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Sep 19 2009, 09:28 PM)
I have this gut feeling no matter how much we analyse their prospectus and likely earnings of Malaysia Ops, it doesn't really matter once you get the IPO. Since it's almost a guaranteed profit upon listing.

Long term is still questionable, but very short term gain from striking this IPO is almost inevitable. It's not a question whether it's worth buying, its a question of whether you get to buy or not.
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skiddtrader,

<<Since it's almost a guaranteed profit upon listing. >>

For whom??

A) The person buying the IPO share??

B) Maxis??

C) Or, greater fool theory?? Buy it and sell it immediately?? The last person that holding the share is the loser??

Dreamer

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I am eagerly to know when is the listing date and what is the listing price. At least we can get ourselves prepared for the IPO.
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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Sep 19 2009, 09:34 PM)
skiddtrader,

<<Since it's almost a guaranteed profit upon listing. >>

For whom??

A) The person buying the IPO share??

B) Maxis??

C)  Or, greater fool theory??  Buy it and sell it immediately?? The last person that holding the share is the loser??

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It's always C) in the case of popular IPOs.

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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Sep 20 2009, 11:21 AM)
Dreamer,

It's always C) in the case of popular IPOs.
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Those who interested to get Maxis shares but no money 2 buy. Can apply to work with Maxis.
Now even the contract staff of Maxis will get maxis shares. The higher position, you will get more shares option.

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QUOTE(zenquix @ Sep 21 2009, 12:47 AM)
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1) Listing only covers Malaysia Maxis. What is the potential growth like? Pure dividend play?
2) Maxis Communications Berhad will use both proceeds from the relist as well as dividends to finance overseas ventures. @75% dividend return, would this in turn cap the potential growth of the Malaysian business?
3) Reduction in 2009 financials and reduction in market share hints on better performance by the competitors in the Malaysian Market?
4) @ 2.25 bil shares (only 8% retail), and estimated IPO listing of RM7bil, this would mean that the potential IPO price will be ~RM3.11 per share.
5) Assuming that FY2009 & FY2010 gross profit is zero growth @ RM2.4 bil(considering 2009 is already 9.4%) that would mean a dividend pool of RM540mil for this 2.25 bil shares. Thus each share may earn ~24 sen per share
6) This would put it to a potential dividend yield @ est IPO price of 7.7%.
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Added on September 21, 2009, 4:44 amThe recent investment liberalisation announced by the PM stated that half of the public float will be allocated to Bumiputera. If Im not wrong, Maxis' IPO will be bound to the new regulations since it is effective from the announcement date.

After deducting Bumiputera portion of 87.395M shares, Does that mean that the rest of the public applicants will only have 87.395M shares ?

Assuming there are 50,000 applicants (employees, auntie, uncle, students, etc)
That will average to about 1747.9shares per applicant sweat.gif sweat.gif
Not to mention some may not get anything at all.. hmm.gif

Chances are quite slim eh.. laugh.gif

I've heard that you'll be guaranteed some shares if you subscribe above certain amount. Is there such thing ?





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QUOTE(mopster @ Sep 21 2009, 03:40 AM)
I've heard that you'll be guaranteed some shares if you subscribe above certain amount. Is there such thing ?
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I'll like to know as well.

From the draft prospectus:

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112,500,000 Offer Shares, representing 1.50% of the existing issued and paidup share capital of the Company, will be made available for application by Malaysian citizens, companies, co-operatives, societies and institutions, comprising the following:

(a) 75,000,000 Offer Shares, representing 1.00% of the existing issued and paid-up share capital of the Company, are set aside for Bumiputera
individuals, companies, co-operatives, societies and institutions; and

(b) 37,500,000 Offer Shares, representing 0.50% of the existing issued and paid-up share capital of the Company, are available to Malaysian citizens,companies, co-operatives, societies and institutions


The rest of the retail offering are allocated to eligible Maxis customers, dealers and employees.

So chances are not merely slim, it's thin as a starving refugee shakehead.gif

Btw the public have 15 days to provide feedback on the draft prospectus here:

http://www.sc.com.my/main.asp?pageid=643&m...=&linkid=&type=

If any forumer feels that the 37.5 million shares allocated for the public are too little, do click on the blue comment button at the bottom of the page and make your voice heard.

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QUOTE(flydragon @ Aug 5 2009, 04:53 PM)
What is the final price of Maxis b4 quit klse?
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It should be rm14.5, that was the price Maxis paid if i remember correctly.

Some how i'm not too excited with the re-listing of Maxis simply because the reason for listing is not for expansion of business but its at the request of the PM to attract investors. I feel like we are contributing to a huge profit to Mr. Krishnan for the re-listing. Just my opinion.
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Maxis re-listing will give a big impact on DIGI and AXIATA shareholder. Particularly DIGI -time to change~

Maxis is much more cheaper and higher potential
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The shares of Malaysia’s top mobile operator Maxis Bhd. will likely be priced at between 5.00 and 6.00 ringgit in a planned initial public offering later this year, the Edge financial weekly reported quoting an unnamed source as saying Saturday.

“Currently the price range is thereabouts. It could go higher but it shouldn’t go beyond MYR7.00,” the Edge reported quoting a source familiar with the deal.


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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Aug 26 2009, 02:32 PM)
I will go for MAXIS.

Hope the listing price is par value RM1, price is RM5.00
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QUOTE(simplesmile @ Aug 26 2009, 04:01 PM)
How did you arrive at the RM5.00 IPO price?
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QUOTE(Jet Lee @ Sep 21 2009, 01:06 PM)
The shares of Malaysia’s top mobile operator Maxis Bhd. will likely be priced at between 5.00 and 6.00 ringgit in a planned initial public offering later this year, the Edge financial weekly reported quoting an unnamed source as saying Saturday.

“Currently the price range is thereabouts. It could go higher but it shouldn’t go beyond MYR7.00,” the Edge reported quoting a source familiar with the deal.
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Simplesmile, now can you see my first comment on RM5? ..."reporting quoting unnamed source..." err, that source was me. biggrin.gif
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A issue I need to raise, so that people not confuse.

Previously the company which being privatised one is Maxis Communication, MCB, the parent company. Now the one will go through the IPO one is Maxis Malaysia, one of MCB business.

So it is totally different than Maxis which being privatised previously.
It is Maxis Malaysia, not Maxis Communication.
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QUOTE(zenquix @ Sep 21 2009, 12:47 AM)
Not sure if this was shared

Source: http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIM...icle/index_html
My thoughts
1) Listing only covers Malaysia Maxis. What is the potential growth like? Pure dividend play?
2) Maxis Communications Berhad will use both proceeds from the relist as well as dividends to finance overseas ventures. @75% dividend return, would this in turn cap the potential growth of the Malaysian business?
3) Reduction in 2009 financials and reduction in market share hints on better performance by the competitors in the Malaysian Market?
4) @ 2.25 bil shares (only 8% retail), and estimated IPO listing of RM7bil, this would mean that the potential IPO price will be ~RM3.11 per share.
5) Assuming that FY2009 & FY2010 gross profit is zero growth @ RM2.4 bil(considering 2009 is already 9.4%) that would mean a dividend pool of RM540mil for this 2.25 bil shares. Thus each share may earn ~24 sen per share
6) This would put it to a potential dividend yield @ est IPO price of 7.7%.
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1) It is only for purely dividend play, as growth rate is minimal, as same as TM

2) Malaysia has HP penetration rate is about 110% already (HP > population), so near matured and saturated state, further growth rate is about population growth and economy growth. So there is little need to further expansion and capex, except for newer tech come in which need for major upgrade across which in near future is highly unlikely. Population is the major issue which is the upper cap of your potential customers as well as per capital income.
That's why a lot of large cap company (even in financial), has ventured to overseas to look for more growth.

3) 2009 surely has impact on all across (it is norm to see any company register a dip in revenue and profit side), as recession kick in as well as lot of foreigner workers being sent back. (Foreigner workers also are one of chunck of prepaid business)

5) If it turns out to be 7.7% yield with consistency, it is still a reasonable dividend stock especially for large cap stocks. But share price wise won't be too exciting, may be just like Guiness type of movement but if treat it as old man stock to collect dividend only, still is a choice.
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As disclosed, annualised 2009 profit of 30.4 cents based on 1H'09 results. So I can't see it pricing at around MYR 3.11 per share, which would be a great discount compared to its competitors such as Digi. At the same time, MYR 7.00 is wishful thinking too. If I had to bet, more likely the low end of that 5-6 range said earlier, or slightly less.

Personally, I'm not so skeptical to view Maxis as a pure dividend play company. There's growth to be had, but it's going to be gradual. Stuff like wireless value added services, gaming and mobile advertising have potential.
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The report from business times states that:

"Maxis Malaysia will not be issuing new shares, but will offer 2.25 billion shares, representing 30 per cent of its existing share capital.

The exercise could help its main shareholders (Maxis) to fund the group's Indian investments"

I think what Maxis is doing is that they want to raise cash from the Malaysian public to invest in India but will not be sharing its profit from India.
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QUOTE(Gundam Wing @ Sep 21 2009, 09:24 PM)
The report from business times states that:

"Maxis Malaysia will not be issuing new shares, but will offer 2.25 billion shares, representing 30 per cent of its existing share capital.

The exercise could help its main shareholders (Maxis) to fund the group's Indian investments"

I think what Maxis is doing is that they want to raise cash from the Malaysian public to invest in India but will not be sharing its profit from India.
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That's right, now the India's business is start growing with compound rate, why want to share the profit with public?
I think that's the purpose 2 years back when Maxis delisted from Bursa.

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That's right, now the India's business is start growing with compound rate, why want to share the profit with public?
I think that's the purpose 2 years back when Maxis delisted from Bursa.
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My view,
I don't think that's the main point (yes, it could but more on secondary) of the privatisation previously.

The previous privatisaiton (or most privatisation) is to get rid of others shareholders so that they can do whatever they want on the company level whether fund transferring or some decision which might not agreed by other shareholders. If company doesn't need fund or financing, then yes, any privitisation make sense, but not for MCB.

Imagine if without privatisation if MCB transferred all the fund from Malaysia operation to fund India market operation and not giving a single cent dividend to the existing shareholders, surely others shareholders will raise skeptism on it even though India operation might be have good future. By then you have a lot of shareholders object the move which could jeopardise the India operation/venture


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QUOTE(okyjace @ Sep 21 2009, 08:49 PM)
As disclosed, annualised 2009 profit of 30.4 cents based on 1H'09 results. So I can't see it pricing at around MYR 3.11 per share, which would be a great discount compared to its competitors such as Digi. At the same time, MYR 7.00 is wishful thinking too. If I had to bet, more likely the low end of that 5-6 range said earlier, or slightly less.

Personally, I'm not so skeptical to view Maxis as a pure dividend play company. There's growth to be had, but it's going to be gradual. Stuff like wireless value added services, gaming and mobile advertising have potential.
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If EPS is 30 cents, IPO price should't more than RM3.xx.

If RM5-6 range at EPS 30 cents with little growth, it is an expensive IPO, not advisable to go in anymore, as it means PER of 20x with little growth which doesn't sound right.
Just my view, I might be wrong.

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A issue I need to raise, so that people not confuse.

Previously the company which being privatised one is Maxis Communication, MCB, the parent company. Now the one will go through the IPO one is Maxis Malaysia, one of MCB business.

So it is totally different than Maxis which being privatised previously.
It is Maxis Malaysia, not Maxis Communication.
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Maxis Communication Berhad (MCB) is planning to list only Maxis Malaysia, so the news seems pretty clear to all.

So, it will be a direct competitor to DiGi and Axiata. Previous privatised company was MCB.

That's the reason why I derived the listing price to be about 5MYR not MYR7 or MYR12-15 as many has expected. Malaysia operations is very competitive, profit margin is slim and Malaysia market is not that big.

Axiata was nearing MYR7 (post de-merger) and now still trading MYR3


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Maxis Communication Berhad (MCB) is planning to list only Maxis Malaysia, so the news seems pretty clear to all.

So, it will be a direct competitor to DiGi and Axiata. Previous privatised company was MCB.

That's the reason why I derived the listing price to be about 5MYR not MYR7 or MYR12-15 as many has expected. Malaysia operations is very competitive, profit margin is slim and Malaysia market is not that big.

Axiata was nearing MYR7 (post de-merger)  and now still trading MYR3
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I raised this issue, because any price of MCB privatisation last time or how much was MCB price is irrelevant to current Maxis Malaysia issue as some forumers keep on asking back how much MCB price was. smile.gif

Price is never an issue, and not a gauge of any valuation because it depended how much share being issued.

It is the ability of earning in term of EPS that determine how IPO price or a share price should be.

Just like Airasia share is issued at Par value of Rm0.10, so IPO price become RM1.xx.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 22 2009, 12:35 AM)
I raised this issue, because any price of MCB privatisation last time or how much was MCB price is irrelevant to current Maxis Malaysia issue as some forumers keep on asking back how much MCB price was.  smile.gif 

Price is never an issue, and not a gauge of any valuation because it depended how much share being issued.

It is the ability of earning in term of EPS that determine how IPO price or a share price should be.

Just like Airasia share is issued at Par value of Rm0.10, so IPO price become RM1.xx.
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true, if the par value like sh|t, then it will be penny stock. KNM, SAAG, AirAsia are some of the popular exaamples.

To be in FBM-30, MCB will ensure the par stays at RM1.00, so MYR5 is just nice entry price. I will not go for IPO, wait for the opening day will be much fun. Buy on DIP.


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i heard rumour said Maxis IPO price would be 5.00 rolleyes.gif

RM4-RM6 seen for Maxis share in IPO
source: http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...02&sec=business

Maxis IPO shares may trade RM5 to RM6.20
http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...5-to-rm620.html
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 21 2009, 06:00 PM)
1) It is only for purely dividend play, as growth rate is minimal, as same as TM

2) Malaysia has HP penetration rate is about 110% already (HP > population), so near matured and saturated state, further growth rate is about population growth and economy growth. So there is little need to further expansion and capex, except for newer tech come in which need for major upgrade across which in near future is highly unlikely. Population is the major issue which is the upper cap of your potential customers as well as per capital income.
That's why a lot of large cap company (even in financial), has ventured to overseas to look for more growth.

3) 2009 surely has impact on all across (it is norm to see any company register a dip in revenue and profit side), as recession kick in as well as lot of foreigner workers being sent back. (Foreigner workers also are one of chunck of prepaid business)

5) If it turns out to be 7.7% yield with consistency, it is still a reasonable dividend stock especially for large cap stocks. But share price wise won't be too exciting, may be just like Guiness type of movement but if treat it as old man stock to collect dividend only, still is a choice.
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How much is the dividend? If stingy dividend, no point holding it. But because this time is Maxis Malaysia, not Maxis Communications, therefore its movement may not look like TM's. Let's see how it goes.
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How much is the dividend? If stingy dividend, no point holding it. But because this time is Maxis Malaysia, not Maxis Communications, therefore its movement may not look like TM's. Let's see how it goes.
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It has been reported that Maxis aims to give 75% of its profit made as dividend.
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It has been reported that Maxis aims to give 75% of its profit made as dividend.
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while TM is giving 90% of its profit as divvy, ya?

when everyone is crushing their heads to grab a piece of maxis cake, perhaps we may switch target to other telcos such as Digi / TM etc? rolleyes.gif
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Axiata should be the preferred one.
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while TM is giving 90% of its profit as divvy, ya?

when everyone is crushing their heads to grab a piece of maxis cake, perhaps we may switch target to other telcos such as Digi / TM etc?  rolleyes.gif
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Indeed, actually TM could be better bet for dividend if nothing goes wrong.

Axiata has good growth, but it is surrounded by enormous debt issue as always.
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if in doubt, pick

TM + Axiata
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Maxis + Digi
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TM +Digi
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Digi + Axiata
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Maxis + Digi + Tm + Axiata (er) at least got all the lubang covered.
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QUOTE(aurora97 @ Sep 24 2009, 05:48 PM)
if in doubt, pick

TM + Axiata
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Maxis + Digi
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TM +Digi
or
Digi + Axiata
or
Maxis + TM
or
Maxis + Digi + Tm + Axiata (er) at least got all the lubang covered.
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rclxms.gif thumbup.gif sure win.
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i vote for Maxis + TM combo~~ icon_idea.gif flex.gif
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i'd avoid Maxis. go for Digi + TM Combooooo tongue.gif

maxis might see a strong goreng pressure on first 2 days of listing.
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i'd avoid Maxis. go for Digi + TM Combooooo tongue.gif

maxis might see a strong goreng pressure on first 2 days of listing.
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For Maxis potential shareholders.

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Maxis Plans for 2.25 Billions Unit IPO Shares


Maxis Bhd plans to issue Initial Public Offering (IPO) of 2,250,000,000 ordinary shares of RM0.10.

Maxis had submitted the prospectus on 17 Septemeber, 2009 to the Securities Malaysia (SC). However, the prospectus have not been registered with the SC and is only open for public exposure for 15 working days, the last day for exposure is 12 October, 2009.

The 2,250,000,000 ordinary shares represents 30% Maxis of its existing share capital. Maxis will not issue new shares for the initial public offering.

The Offer Shares will be allocated in the following manner:


Categories
No. of Offer Shares
% of existing share capital

Retail Offering:

Eligible customers
21,175,000
0.28%

Eligible dealers and distributors
6,120,000
0.08%

Eligible directors and employees
35,000,000
0.47%


Malaysia Public:

Bumiputera
75,000,000
1.00%

Non-Bumiputera
37,500,000
0.50%


174,795,000

Instituional Offering:

Bumiputera investors
862,500,000
11.50%

Other institutions
1,212,705,000
16.17%


2,075,205,000
27.67%


2,250,000,000
30.00%


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QUOTE(viper88 @ Sep 25 2009, 08:00 PM)
For Maxis potential shareholders.

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Maxis Plans for 2.25 Billions Unit IPO Shares
Maxis Bhd plans to issue Initial Public Offering (IPO) of 2,250,000,000 ordinary shares of RM0.10.

Maxis had submitted the prospectus on 17 Septemeber, 2009 to the Securities Malaysia (SC). However, the prospectus have not been registered with the SC and is only open for public exposure for 15 working days, the last day for exposure is 12 October, 2009.

The 2,250,000,000 ordinary shares represents 30% Maxis of its existing share capital. Maxis will not issue new shares for the initial public offering.

The Offer Shares will be allocated in the following manner:
Categories
No. of Offer Shares
% of existing share capital

Retail Offering:

Eligible customers
21,175,000
0.28%

Eligible dealers and distributors
6,120,000
0.08%

Eligible directors and employees
35,000,000
0.47%


Malaysia Public:

Bumiputera
75,000,000
1.00%

Non-Bumiputera
37,500,000
0.50%


174,795,000
 
Instituional Offering:
 
Bumiputera investors
862,500,000
11.50%

Other institutions
1,212,705,000
16.17%


2,075,205,000
27.67%


2,250,000,000
30.00%
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Feel like no sincerity to IPO to us. wink.gif
Only 1-2% for public, somemore have to compete with maxis user.
but anyway, I will buy as much as I afford.
It is definitely double gain.
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QUOTE(aurora97 @ Sep 24 2009, 05:48 PM)
if in doubt, pick

TM + Axiata
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Maxis + Digi
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TM +Digi
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Digi + Axiata
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Maxis + TM
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Maxis + Digi + Tm + Axiata (er) at least got all the lubang covered.
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Feel like no sincerity to IPO to us. wink.gif
Only 1-2% for public, somemore have to compete with maxis user.

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if i read it correctly, only selected postpaid customers?
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For Maxis potential shareholders.

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Maxis Plans for 2.25 Billions Unit IPO Shares
Maxis Bhd plans to issue Initial Public Offering (IPO) of 2,250,000,000 ordinary shares of RM0.10.
Par value RM0.10? Then it should be below RM2? Duh!

Less public offering means cannot simply goreng??
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Any idea what will be the criteria to be selected and eligible to get a piece of the IPO?
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Any idea what will be the criteria to be selected and eligible to get a piece of the IPO?
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not sure, but I will go for OPEN market on the opening day.
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not sure, but I will go for OPEN market on the opening day.
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I want to buy as much as I can for IPO.
Anyone know if we can use margin to buy IPO?
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I want to buy as much as I can for IPO.
Anyone know if we can use margin to buy IPO?
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Not sure if there's such facility to buy IPO on loan. Maybe now its high time for Investment Bank to offer such facility.

Say charge 7% fee upon utilization of strike IPO. I will love such idea being introduced.

Any1 heard such thing ?
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Not sure if there's such facility to buy IPO on loan. Maybe now its high time for Investment Bank to offer such facility.

Say charge 7% fee upon utilization of strike IPO. I will love such idea being introduced.

Any1 heard such thing ?
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You can use OD but no margin I think.
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QUOTE(htt @ Sep 29 2009, 08:13 AM)
You can use OD but no margin I think.
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Bank loves OD, but you still need to put money upfront (example Fixed Deposit under lien).


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Bank loves OD, but you still need to put money upfront (example Fixed Deposit under lien).
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Eon bank do provide facility for IPO investment with certain charges, i am not promoting the bank here, but those interested can check with the bank. smile.gif

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QUOTE(Vinct @ Sep 29 2009, 11:12 AM)
Eon bank do provide facility for IPO investment with certain charges, i am not promoting the bank here, but those interested can check with the bank.  smile.gif
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Not sure if there's such facility to buy IPO on loan. Maybe now its high time for Investment Bank to offer such facility.

Say charge 7% fee upon utilization of strike IPO. I will love such idea being introduced.

Any1 heard such thing ?
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i've heard b4 those days certain ppl who call themselves niche boutique banks offer loans for ppl to partake in IPOs and such, but those were good days where it's almost guaranteed that every IPO will go up....

so...yes...just ask around...but u need to loan a big amount...not just 10K...they'll prolly show u the exit sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Amanda99 @ Sep 29 2009, 07:34 PM)
i've heard b4 those days certain ppl who call themselves niche boutique banks offer loans for ppl to partake in IPOs and such, but those were good days where it's almost guaranteed that every IPO will go up....

so...yes...just ask around...but u need to loan a big amount...not just 10K...they'll prolly show u the exit  sweat.gif
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This is the eonbank link: http://www.eonbank.com.my/consumer/loans/loans_bulleon.shtml
But do it at your own risk. wink.gif
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one more at cimb: http://www.cimbbank.com.my/index.php?ch=cb...7&tpt=cimb_bank
again, do it at your own risk. wink.gif

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Regarding the CIMB IPO financing link you provided, do note that it is for employees of the company getting listed.

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Initial Public Offering (IPO) Pink Form Financing is a tailored credit facility extended to the company eligible employees to purchase the IPO* shares that has been allocated to them by their employer during the listing exercise.


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When will it re-list again on bursa malaysia???
how we want to buy its share before it list on bursa???
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When will it re-list again on bursa malaysia???
how we want to buy its share before it list on bursa???
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news say it relist on mid of november
u can apply the IPO
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where and how to apply the IPO? anyone knows any lubang?
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apply IPO no need to find lubang, all u need is the cash rclxms.gif
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apply IPO no need to find lubang, all u need is the cash rclxms.gif
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any idea when is the confirmed date that we can start applying for Maxis IPO?
seems that they had submitted their IPO plan to Bursa Malaysia since mid-August
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The sole shareholder of Maxis Bhd is offering for sale 30% stake in
an IPO to investors. Maxis Bhd will consist of just the domestic
cellular operation. Given the stable and mature state of the cellular
industry, the key investment proposition of Maxis Bhd will be a
dividend yield play with its 75% payout policy.

Not bad interm of dividen, but need to have a closer look at the IPO price 1st..
there is some info about KAF house reaseach for Maxis IPO.. on link below

http://rayong-share.blogspot.com/2009/10/s...xis-bhd-is.html
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I just got a call from my broker. Public Bank Share Financing department.

They say got promotion to buy MAXIS IPO share.
They are offering the following to me:-

IPO price RM5.50
they are willing to give me 80% financing
meaning, i come out 1.10 + 4.4 (financing) = RM5.5
however, they will charge me BLR + 1.5% = 7.05% per annum (base on BLR of 5.55%)

what do u guys think? i'm still analysing this issue.

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ic... does that mean if Maxis' divvy is more than 7.05% is enough to cover interests already?

pai seh, i dunno much about share margin... blush.gif
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QUOTE(Neo18 @ Oct 7 2009, 07:43 PM)
I just got a call from my broker. Public Bank Share Financing department.

They say got promotion to buy MAXIS IPO share.
They are offering the following to me:-

IPO price RM5.50
they are willing to give me 80% financing
meaning, i come out 1.10 + 4.4 (financing) = RM5.5
however, they will charge me BLR + 1.5% = 7.05% per annum (base on BLR of 5.55%)

what do u guys think? i'm still analysing this issue.
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bank representative directly call u? then u must be a very high profile people...

but i still can find any info regarding maxis IPO... confirm rm5.50?
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QUOTE(Neo18 @ Oct 7 2009, 07:43 PM)
I just got a call from my broker. Public Bank Share Financing department.

They say got promotion to buy MAXIS IPO share.
They are offering the following to me:-

IPO price RM5.50
they are willing to give me 80% financing
meaning, i come out 1.10 + 4.4 (financing) = RM5.5
however, they will charge me BLR + 1.5% = 7.05% per annum (base on BLR of 5.55%)

what do u guys think? i'm still analysing this issue.
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Wow! Thats a nice gesture. Ask them if you sell the share right away on listing day and settle the financing, is there any like settlement fee or not. Or just pay 1st year interest + loan.

Let us know what you decided on.
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When MAXIS will start trade in KLSE?

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QUOTE(! Love Money @ Oct 7 2009, 08:25 PM)
bank representative directly call u? then u must be a very high profile people...

but i still can find any info regarding maxis IPO... confirm rm5.50?
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more or less confirm @ 5.50 liow..


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QUOTE(Neo18 @ Oct 7 2009, 07:43 PM)
I just got a call from my broker. Public Bank Share Financing department.

They say got promotion to buy MAXIS IPO share.
They are offering the following to me:-

IPO price RM5.50
they are willing to give me 80% financing
meaning, i come out 1.10 + 4.4 (financing) = RM5.5
however, they will charge me BLR + 1.5% = 7.05% per annum (base on BLR of 5.55%)

what do u guys think? i'm still analysing this issue.
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What if after IPO, the share price drop and go side ways? You have to consider this possible scenario as well..
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QUOTE(Neo18 @ Oct 7 2009, 07:43 PM)
I just got a call from my broker. Public Bank Share Financing department.

They say got promotion to buy MAXIS IPO share.
They are offering the following to me:-

IPO price RM5.50
they are willing to give me 80% financing
meaning, i come out 1.10 + 4.4 (financing) = RM5.5
however, they will charge me BLR + 1.5% = 7.05% per annum (base on BLR of 5.55%)

what do u guys think? i'm still analysing this issue.
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what other banks are offering financing to buy Maxis IPO besides Public Bank? what are the requirements to get them to finance the IPO subscription? i'm newbie here on share trading but really keen to get a piece of the IPO.


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QUOTE(DanielW @ Oct 7 2009, 09:37 PM)
What if after IPO, the share price drop and go side ways? You have to consider this possible scenario as well..
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Ya, that is one main consequences that we have to consider. but with Maxis IPO, do you think we can cover the bank interest and make some bucks? please advise on the loan tenure if anyone knows about it, thanks.

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According to reports, Maxis will hope to get listed by end of November.

I suppose the IPO will be out 3-4 weeks prior to listing.. so I'm looking at the end of this month........
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what other banks are offering financing to buy Maxis IPO besides Public Bank? what are the requirements to get them to finance the IPO subscription? i'm newbie here on share trading but really keen to get a piece of the IPO.
It would probably be best to wait until the other banks finalise their offers by the next week or so. Until then, feel free to window shop for better offers.  tongue.gif
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Added on October 9, 2009, 12:26 am
Ya, that is one main consequences that we have to consider. but with Maxis IPO, do you think we can cover the bank interest and make some bucks? please advise on the loan tenure if anyone knows about it, thanks.
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If you're worried about any adverse movements in the share price then take the loan from the bank that gives you the highest buffer. The larger the difference between the margin of finance and the force selling ratio the better.

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This two articles are to remind myself to be objective amid all the excitement about Maxis wink.gif

Stripped-down Maxis IPO could turn off investors
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Maxis may be worth RM44.5b in public offering
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QUOTE(mH3nG @ Oct 9 2009, 12:42 AM)
It would probably be best to wait until the other banks finalise their offers by the next week or so. Until then, feel free to window shop for better offers.  tongue.gif
If you're worried about any adverse movements in the share price then take the loan from the bank that gives you the highest buffer. The larger the difference between the margin of finance and the force selling ratio the better.
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I have Hlebroking, CIMB Invest and Maybank Invest.

Let me know if any bank wants to offer me margin on this Maxis IPO?


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wow, RM5.5

need to reload bullets now
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so.. for Maxis is it still worth to be go in... all news coming out seems to be putting down the image for this IPO... hmm.gif hmm.gif
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so.. for Maxis is it still worth to be go in... all news coming out seems to be putting down the image for this IPO...  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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Better wait and see. Buying IPO shares doesn't guarantee you a handsome profit.  wink.gif
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big investors and mutual funds are eyeing for this IPO
so one will need a large capital to get hold some portion of this.
and no guarantee it will rise upon listing
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I have Hlebroking, CIMB Invest and Maybank Invest.

Let me know if any bank wants to offer me margin on this Maxis IPO?
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You can call CIMB and ask about their financing. I believe they will be doing the pink form financing.
If you need white form financing, you'll need to apply for a share margin facility.
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Simplesmile, now can you see my first comment on RM5? ..."reporting quoting unnamed source..." err, that source was me. biggrin.gif
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If I'm not mistaken, the price of IPO will be announced within this week. Previously was mentioned at RM4.95 right?

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i heard from my friend, say they can get a priority for IPO new share, only the price will 5%-8% higher than normal application. Is it true? Does it worth?
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i heard from my friend, say they can get a priority for IPO new share, only the price will 5%-8% higher than normal application. Is it true? Does it worth?
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how can they get priority for the IPO? hope Kantao can give us more kantaos.....even with 5%-8% higher, i think we shud grab a piece coz i foresee it will go much higher....
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sounds more like the institution offer is being resold lol
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Personally, i think is not worth taking up.
Fund manager also underweight this guy.
Just let it be & see how it turn up.
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I have decided not to borrow money to buy IPO.

My policy is to use cash only to trade.. smile.gif
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I got a sms from Osk that offers to buy the IPO via institution offering. Minimum bid was 10k. Dateline passed ...
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today discuss with m friend, confirm is institution offering, but its 10% higher than IPO & minimum 50k. My friend asking me to share half of it.

Worth to buy it?
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The listing of Maxis only involves its business in Malaysia. Malaysia is already a saturated market hence there is not much upside. From my point of view, the only reason Maxis is catching the attention of the public is because of its dividend. Can anyone tells how much Maxis promise to give out in term of dividend yield? If it is only 5 %, it is not worth to buy at all. There are much more safe stock which offers higher DY.

If you plan to have a safe investment with constant dividend, this is the right choice. But if you prefer higher risk with higher return, Axiata will be a much better choice. For me, Maxis is definitely not in my consideration to buy.

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if im not wrong they aim to distribute 75% of profit as divvy....
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Unlike Axiata, I think Maxis (Malaysian operations only) will be like TM mother share (Malaysian operatons also). Dividend based but not for "real" play. But again you will never know. smile.gif
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QUOTE(mH3nG @ Oct 14 2009, 07:44 PM)
You can call CIMB and ask about their financing. I believe they will be doing the pink form financing.
If you need white form financing, you'll need to apply for a share margin facility.
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Financing for Maxis IPO should be no problem.

As far as I know, few financiers is providing such financing ie. Public Share Investment offering 90% financing.
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their IPO still didn't announce the finalized price yet?
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any1 got the date this IPO will be start issue? wait very long ady...
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Heard a news, the IPO price is RM5.60........
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Heard a news, the IPO price is RM5.60........
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got the date???  biggrin.gif  thanks...
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haha..
why not interested? tongue.gif
meaning the price won't fly too high like most other IPO listed this year?
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haha..
why not interested? tongue.gif
meaning the price won't fly too high like most other IPO listed this year?
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Maxis IPO Institutional portion is now open for bidding,many Investment banks(IB) are offering to their high net worth clients with various Terms and conditions.

The IB that I am attached to is offering same at the following T&C:

~minimum application 50,000 units,amount involved is around RM280,000.00

~price will be at strike price,meaning it will be the price where institutions will get at the final book building exercise,indication is that it will be in the region of RM5.20 to RM5.50.(Note retail investors applying through the normal IPO process will get at a cheaper price of 5% discount)

~allocation will be subject to allotment by the lead advisor,CIMB IB,Since the bid is put in at strike price,chances of success is reasonably good.

~Service charge of 1.5% on successful allocation,if unsuccessful,no cost to you.

~As we are also one of the joint lead managers,successful applicant shares will be credited direct to your CDS account which must be maintained with us.You must therefore open account with me if you wish to apply and the cost is just the RM10 CDS account opening fee.Selling also must be done through me since this will be my only reward from the commission charged on the selling contract. laugh.gif

~closing date is next Friday ,30th October

Can post your question here or PM me if you want further infor.

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Thanks for the info lklatmy.

So it is more or less confirm around RM5 for normal investors then.

Question, any restrictions on selling on listing day for these institutional investors?
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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Oct 22 2009, 11:18 AM)
Thanks for the info lklatmy.

So it is more or less confirm around RM5 for normal investors then.

Question, any restrictions on selling on listing day for these institutional investors?
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when is the date of the IPO?
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No restrictions,successful applicants can sell anytime.
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Hi lklatmy,

Does your investment bank provide financing for Maxis IPO (and other IPOs, for that matter)?

What are the interest rate, margin of financing, and other terms & conditions?

Thank you.
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CIMB will only finance the pink form ie if you're an employee of Maxis. If you need financing for the white form then I'm afraid you're outta luck.
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Hi lklatmy,

Does your investment bank provide financing for Maxis IPO (and other IPOs, for that matter)?

What are the interest rate, margin of financing, and other terms & conditions?

Thank you.
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Noted :-
Maxis is scheduled to launch its prospectus on Wednesday and it is expected to raise nearly RM10.2 billion for the listing exercise of its Malaysian operations. However, pricing the shares above RM5.20 may not attract strong interest.
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Maxis is scheduled to launch its prospectus on Wednesday and it is expected to raise nearly RM10.2 billion for the listing exercise of its Malaysian operations. However, pricing the shares above RM5.20 may not attract strong interest.
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no matter how, the IPO will be over-subscribed.

Like MBL, it had been oversubscribed by 34 times.

Don't know whether I should spend RM2 to bid for it.

Just like buying lottery.. wink.gif too hard to get.
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no matter how, the IPO will be over-subscribed.

Like MBL, it had been oversubscribed by 34 times.

Don't know whether I should spend RM2 to bid for it.

Just like buying lottery.. wink.gif too hard to get.
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Yeah true it will be hard to get. But then you have to be in the lottery to WIN it. So a chance is a chance. Better try it if you really want it.
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QUOTE(lklatmy @ Oct 22 2009, 11:01 AM)
Maxis IPO Institutional portion is now open for bidding,many Investment banks(IB) are offering to their  high net worth clients with various Terms and conditions.

The IB that I am attached to is offering same at the following T&C:

~minimum  application 50,000 units,amount involved is around RM280,000.00

~price will be at strike price,meaning it will be the price where institutions will get at the final book building exercise,indication is that it will be in the region of RM5.20 to RM5.50.(Note retail investors applying through the normal IPO process will get at a cheaper price of 5% discount)

~allocation will be subject to allotment by the lead advisor,CIMB IB,Since the bid is put in at strike price,chances of success is reasonably good.

~Service charge of 1% on successful allocation,if unsuccessful,no cost to you.

~As we are also one of the joint lead managers,successful applicant shares will be credited direct to your CDS account which must be maintained with us.You must therefore open account with me if you wish to apply and the cost is just the RM10 CDS account opening fee.Selling also must be done through me since this will be my only reward from the commission charged on the selling contract. laugh.gif

~closing date is next Friday ,30th October

Can post your question here or PM me if you want further infor.
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If retail investors are goiing to get it at a 5% discount, why would anyone use an IB?

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If retail investors are goiing to get it at a 5% discount, why would anyone use an IB?
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Much higher chance of success. Seems everyone is expecting the price to shoot up on listing day which is why they dont mind paying a premium for the IPO instead of waiting to buy on listing day which may open at a much higher price.
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Hei s guys ned your advise Maxis shares have been suggested at RM5.50 but i think will be at 5.30,
my concern i got a offer to buy or subscribe 50k but the bank is charging 1.5% anywhere else cheaper admin fees
please advise


Added on October 26, 2009, 4:56 pm50k allocated but whats the admin charges guys i got 1.5% cimb had it for 1% but all sold


Added on October 26, 2009, 5:03 pmand so much of hype and this is mother of all listing in malayisia with such amount what r the chances for it to appriciate guys u dont want to get ass burn lol

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QUOTE(lukeraj @ Oct 26 2009, 04:51 PM)
Hei s guys ned your advise Maxis shares have been suggested at RM5.50 but i think will be at 5.30,
my concern i got a offer to buy or subscribe 50k but the bank is charging 1.5% anywhere else cheaper admin fees
please advise


Added on October 26, 2009, 4:56 pm50k allocated but whats the admin charges guys i got 1.5% cimb had it for 1% but all sold


Added on October 26, 2009, 5:03 pmand so much of hype and this is mother of all listing in malayisia with such amount what r the chances for it to appriciate guys u dont want to get ass burn lol
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finally... rm5.20 per share... good luck... biggrin.gif

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I'm seriously thinking of skipping this IPO .... coz I doubt Buffett and Graham would have subscribed to it laugh.gif

IMHO, RM5.20 (I know it's tentative) is too expensive, especially since Maxis is in a very competative industry and has been slowly losing market share.

Anyway, will wait for research houses' reports before deciding.



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yup... the yield is not too attractive with 5.20, especially it is more to dividend play than growth..

anyway the link to the prospectus:
http://www.klse.com.my/website/bm/listed_c...pos/prospectus/

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Maybank online /ATM didnt offer maxis IPO for sale!! How to appy?
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I guess the big question now is... what will the price be on listing day?
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Maybank online /ATM didnt offer maxis IPO for sale!! How to appy?
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This is sickening, considering Maybank is one of their principal bankers. mad.gif
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can check if u r qualified for Green or Blue form here :

https://dealernet.maxis.com.my/S/maxisipo/e...ility_check.asp

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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Oct 28 2009, 02:13 PM)
This is sickening, considering Maybank is one of their principal bankers.  mad.gif
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QUOTE(Malefic @ Oct 28 2009, 09:16 AM)
I'm seriously thinking of skipping this IPO .... coz I doubt Buffett and Graham would have subscribed to it   laugh.gif

IMHO, RM5.20 (I know it's tentative) is too expensive, especially since Maxis is in a very competative industry and has been slowly losing market share.

Anyway, will wait for research houses' reports before deciding.
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I agree with you that Maxis is in a very competitive industry. Ever since Mobile Number Portability was introduced, there are people who switched from Maxis to other Telco services. I was one of those fellas tongue.gif

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Thanks!
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Hi Guy,

I went in to Maybank2U and noticed that there is an online share application for MAXIS.
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I'm sorry, I'm new. May I know how to apply the IPO? Thanks..
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for those who wanna but not sure how to apply for Maxis IPO,

plz click on this link, save the pdf and go turn to page 187 shown on PDF - or - page 379 printed on the document
read from there onwards..

http://announcements.bursamalaysia.com/EDM...9%20(2.2MB).pdf

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QUOTE(mopster @ Oct 28 2009, 02:23 PM)
can check if u r qualified for Green or Blue form here :

https://dealernet.maxis.com.my/S/maxisipo/e...ility_check.asp

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Hi..

nubie here.. can I know what is the different between GREEN and BLUE form.??
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let say we pay by ATM ...which account do we pay to?
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Hi..

nubie here.. can I know what is the different between GREEN and BLUE form.??
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QUOTE(lonewolf @ Oct 28 2009, 10:12 PM)
let say we pay by ATM ...which account do we pay to?
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u just need to select Maxis IPO, and they will deduct ur money from there..
U may also need to provide ur CDS account number..

if u have M2U, u can do online also... RM1.00 only..

For more details plz read the PDF file I've posted above.... everything is in there.. i also read from there ...
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lol feel like Maxis Helpdesk liao...
btw.. dun throw shoes at me if the info is inaccurate or the stock doesnt perform.. just sharing what i know.. smile.gif
and of coz, good luck in ur applications.. icon_rolleyes.gif

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im eligible for the BLUE application.. but what the heck i don't know anything about this thing LOL...

is it a waste? or not? for not knowing what the heck it is.. ? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(mopster @ Oct 28 2009, 10:56 PM)
Green -> maxis one club members (by invitation only) and dealers and distributors
Blue -> *Selected* postpaid member
u just need to select Maxis IPO, and they will deduct ur money from there..
U may also need to provide ur CDS account number..

if u have M2U, u can do online also... RM1.00 only..

For more details plz read the PDF file I've posted above.... everything is in there.. i also read from there ...
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lol feel like Maxis Helpdesk liao...
btw.. dun throw shoes at me if the info is inaccurate or the stock doesnt perform.. just sharing what i know.. smile.gif
and of coz, good luck in ur applications..  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Hi there, juz wanna ask 4 sum views regarding the 1st trading day of Maxis IPO shares?? n is it worth 2 hold on to 4 the next few months....thx!!
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Hi there, juz wanna ask 4 sum views regarding the 1st trading day of Maxis IPO shares?? n is it worth 2 hold on to 4 the next few months....thx!!
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Maxis IPO is being launched secara besar-besaran....so I guess it shd be worth to keep. flex.gif
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MAXIS Bhd, selling shares in Malaysia’s biggest public offering, plans to borrow RM5 billion to repay loans to its parent, Maxis Communications Bhd, according to a prospectus published today in Kuala Lumpur.

Maxis has also obtained a revolving credit facility of RM1 billion from CIMB Bank Bhd. for working capital and “liquidity purposes should the need arises,” it said. - Bloomberg

Just curious whether they are having money problem now? Maxis listing will bring down the whole market as it debt is high? hmm.gif

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Nope. Basically, Ananda took out the whole cash from Maxis before listing it. So, Maxis cash is almost zero, and still owe RM5 bln to holding company.

Anyway, no problem for them since cash flow generation is strong
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can i use blue form apply with maybank/RHBBank/CIMB eipo?

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IMHO, Maxis IPO is definitely can be invest in short term, the price might shoot high due to IPO from giant company............. but for long term with PE of 17 which is kinda high in this sector, I wont choose this
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can i use blue form apply with maybank/RHBBank/CIMB eipo?
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I don't think so. Most probably issue cheque or bank draft. Because according to Maxis call center staff, the blue form has to reach KL by next week.
Forgot to ask them about payment method. Maybe later I call again and check. Now no mood to call lar coz all my shares ang ang at the moment.

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QUOTE(claricecmw @ Oct 29 2009, 11:47 AM)
I don't think so. Most probably issue cheque or bank draft. Because according to Maxis call center staff, the blue form has to reach KL by next week.
Forgot to ask them about payment method. Maybe later I call again and check. Now no mood to call lar coz all my shares ang ang at the moment.
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Cannot pay using ATM?

Actually wut's the proper procedure arr... All this while I apply my IPO via ESA... Suddenly this one need to use back form... So lost here.


Added on October 29, 2009, 1:16 pmActually I don't understand this blue form... Higher chance to get is it?

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You need to enclose your cheque with the form, enveloped and bring or post it to Capsquare. There's always little boxes there for you to drop your envelope like the ones you see in post office.

Blue form is for special people such as current pospaid subscribers (so the probability of getting it is slightly higher compared to all public).

1. But the limit is only 1000 ?

2. Another question is once you apply blue form, can you still buy using same name via ATM???


Added on October 29, 2009, 1:25 pm


Maxis fair value at RM5.30-RM5.80: OSK

MAXIS Bhd, which is conducting Malaysia’s biggest stock offering, has a fair value of RM5.30 (US$1.51) to RM5.80 a share, according to Jeffrey Tan, an analyst at OSK Research Sdn Bhd.

This is higher than the indicative price of as much as RM5.20 that Malaysia’s biggest mobile phone company yesterday said it will offer to individual investors.

Tan’s estimate would give Maxis an equity value of as much as RM43.5 billion. He made these comments in a report today.

On fair value:

“We value Maxis, Malaysia’s largest mobile operator, at an equity value of RM39.8 billion to RM43.5 billion, implying a fair value of RM5.30 to RM5.80 a share. The valuation translates into 14.8 times to 16.2 times, the company’s estimated 2010 earnings per share.

“Maxis will be positioned as a stock that provides sustainable and strong dividend yields, similar to listed mobile telcos in markets where growth has leveled off. Notable examples are StarHub Ltd. and MobileOne Ltd in Singapore.

“We expect Maxis and Digi.Com Bhd to be pitted alongside each other in being able to reward shareholders via generous dividends and potential capital management.

“On a discounted cash flow basis, the stock is valued at RM5.80 a share, based on 9 per cent weighted average cost of capital, and terminal growth of 1.5 per cent.”

On market share:

“We expect Maxis’ share of subscriber and revenue to remain under pressure on the back of the maturing mobile market and intense competition. While Maxis was the first to introduce wireless mobile broadband back in September 2006, its market share has been on the decline over the past 12 months as competing products were launched by Celcom (Malaysia) Bhd. and Digi, coupled with the emergence of WiMax broadband services.

“While Maxis has a strong following in the prepaid and postpaid segment, its dominance has and will continue to be threatened by the rejuvenated Celcom and an agile Digi. Celcom had made clear its intention to reclaim the number one spot by 2011. We also note that Celcom’s market share has widened 4 percentage points over the last 8 quarters, mainly at the expense of Maxis.”

On market capitalisation:
“While deprived of the longer term growth story with the overseas assets hived off, Maxis is a core holding for exposure to Malaysia’s mobile telecoms. Based on the implied market capitalization and our assumed free float factor of 0.5-0.75, Maxis will be ranked among the top five of the FTSE KLCI Bursa Malaysia Index when included in the next review of the index in December.

“It could potentially become the fifth largest component of the FTSE KLCI, behind Maybank.”

On debt plan:

“We believe Maxis would have no issue securing additional borrowings given the group’s commendable credit profile and the relatively under-leveraged balance sheet. We forecast its financing cost to surge in 2010 on the back of the additional borrowings.”

On rival Axiata Group Bhd:

“For a more enriching and longer term growth story, we prefer Axiata for its more attractive valuation, following the recent de-rating, at 13.3 times” its estimated 2010 earnings per share, “as well as its stronger net earnings” growth of more than “20 percent in the next” two years. - Bloomberg

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You need to enclose your cheque with the form, enveloped and bring or post it to Capsquare. There's always little boxes there for you to drop your envelope like the ones you see in post office.

Blue form is for special people such as current pospaid subscribers (so the probability of getting it is slightly higher compared to all public).

1. But the limit is only 1000 ?

2. Another question is once you apply blue form, can you still buy using same name via ATM???
1. But the limit is only 1000 ? YES
2. Another question is once you apply blue form, can you still buy using same name via ATM??? YES
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phew went to maxis center jus now..
the queue is real long..need 2 take number sumore just to get the forms
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QUOTE(elvoius88 @ Oct 29 2009, 01:33 PM)
phew went to maxis center jus now..
the queue is real long..need 2 take number sumore just to get the forms
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QUOTE(yccheok @ Oct 29 2009, 01:56 PM)
Hi,

I was wondering anyone of here had experienced in using Maybank2U online to apply for IPO?

(1) Will the amount directly debited from your account once you submit?
(2) Will the amount be directly credited to your account if the application is not successful? Do I need to go to Maybank counter to apply for refund?
(3) Any fee charged in between the transaction?
(4) When we can know the application status for Maxis after we apply?

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according to IPO, 4.XX bilion rm in bank deposit will just have 75 million rm after IPO, im not sure what thats means, anand took all the cash? or MCB took it and pass it back as loan?
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hah serious kah? wah sien la like that...
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yaa..but i ended up without getting the form  cry.gif bcoz the acc is under my dad's name ..need the account owner to be there according to them
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I'll probably go at night later to collect the form.... cool2.gif
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I tried to open a Non Margin Facility Application in M2U but it doesn't show my account no. in the form so the application can't process. But when i try using my wife's it shows the Personal Current Account no. in the form. Open a CDS account must have PCA? I thought Saving Account also can.

I will try to get my Blue Form from their Authorised Dealer tonight. I hope they already have it.

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QUOTE(sailou @ Oct 29 2009, 02:17 PM)
I tried to open a Non Margin Facility Application in M2U but it doesn't show my account no. in the form so the application can't process. But when i try using my wife's it shows the Personal Current Account no. in the form. Open a CDS account must have PCA? I thought Saving Account also can.

I will try to get my Blue Form from their Authorised Dealer tonight. I hope they already have it.
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yaa..but i ended up without getting the form  cry.gif bcoz the acc is under my dad's name ..need the account owner to be there according to them
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Huh which centre u went to? I went to the one near Bangkok Bank (Petaling Street) no one there also. I was the only customer in there. laugh.gif

Anyway I called my remisier, she say blue form is almost guaranteed one. You can still apply for more via white form. But the blue form one really need to use the form and bank draft to submit... Cannot use ESA or ATM zzz... I can't remember the last time I use a snail mail.
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QUOTE(lung @ Oct 29 2009, 02:38 PM)
Huh which centre u went to? I went to the one near Bangkok Bank (Petaling Street) no one there also. I was the only customer in there. laugh.gif

Anyway I called my remisier, she say blue form is almost guaranteed one. You can still apply for more via white form. But the blue form one really need to use the form and bank draft to submit... Cannot use ESA or ATM zzz... I can't remember the last time I use a snail mail.
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Really almost guaranteed?  rclxms.gif
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Ughh at first I don't wanna bother with the blue form and just apply the white one. But if it's true where it's almost guaranteed, I think need to try both ways already.
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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Oct 29 2009, 03:43 PM)
Ughh at first I don't wanna bother with the blue form and just apply the white one. But if it's true where it's almost guaranteed, I think need to try both ways already.
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So hopefully tomorrow GREEN CI....and of course if my counters can be Green... I shall then dispose some to purchase this 1000 shares blue form...
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After going through the Thread, can I say that, the application done through Blue and Green form, will be given higher priority than "Applying through ATM"?

More difficult than kena 4D Toto. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(yccheok @ Oct 29 2009, 04:39 PM)
After going through the Thread, can I say that, the application done through Blue and Green form, will be given higher priority than "Applying through ATM"?

More difficult than kena 4D Toto. tongue.gif
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Let's put it this way:

Green Form - 100% will get
Blue Form - 75%
White Form - 25%
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QUOTE(yccheok @ Oct 29 2009, 04:39 PM)
After going through the Thread, can I say that, the application done through Blue and Green form, will be given higher priority than "Applying through ATM"?

More difficult than kena 4D Toto. tongue.gif
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Well going through Blue and Green form, you are fighting against maybe 8 million other people who are subscribers for 200mil shares.

White form, you are competing with the entire investing community in Malaysia who are interested for 75 mil shares.
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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Oct 29 2009, 04:43 PM)
Well going through Blue and Green form, you are fighting against maybe 8 million other people who are subscribers for 200mil shares.

White form, you are competing with the entire investing community in Malaysia who are interested for 75 mil shares.
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Green form no need to compete. 100% get if apply.
Only Blue form needs to go for private balloting.
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Green form no need to compete. 100% get if apply.
Only Blue form needs to go for private balloting.
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OK thanks for the clarification. Green forms are for this maxis club members right?
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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Oct 29 2009, 05:36 PM)
OK thanks for the clarification. Green forms are for this maxis club members right?
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yup yup. & also some of their dealers as well.
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What's the dateline please for the submission of the blue form ?? Got a flight to catch tomorrow .....
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What's the dateline please for the submission of the blue form ?? Got a flight to catch tomorrow .....
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5th Nov if not mistaken.
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Thanks, skidtrader. Will try to squeeze in a stop-off at a Maxis partner outlet on the way to the airport tomorrow.
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What's the dateline please for the submission of the blue form ?? Got a flight to catch tomorrow .....
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Owner of Account Number :

1. You have met the eligibility criteria for active postpaid customers of Maxis’ mobile services (other than Elite members of the Maxis One Club), and as such you are eligible to apply for 1,000 Offer Shares pursuant to the Retail Offering using the BLUE Application Form. A successful applicant will receive 1,000 Offer Shares each. Terms and conditions apply.

As an eligible postpaid customer who has made an application using the BLUE Application Form, you may still apply for the Offer Shares offered to the Malaysian public using the WHITE Application Form, Electronic Share Application or Internet Share Application.

2. However, please be advised that applicants using the BLUE and WHITE Application Forms are not allowed to submit multiple applications in the same category of application. Further, applicants who have submitted their applications using the WHITE Application Form are not allowed to make additional application using the Electronic Share Applications and Internet Share Applications.

3. You may obtain a copy of the BLUE Application Form and Maxis Prospectus from the nearest Maxis Centre / Maxis Exclusive Partners (MEPs) Centre.

4. The Retail Offering opened at 10.00 a.m. (Malaysian time) on 28 October 2009 and will close at 5.00 p.m. (Malaysian time) on 5 November 2009. The Directors of Maxis Berhad, Maxis Communications Berhad (the Selling Shareholder) and the Majority Joint Managing Underwriters (as defined in the Maxis Prospectus) may decide in their absolute discretion to extend the closing time and date for applications under the Retail Offering to any later date or dates. Any extension will be announced in a widely circulated Bahasa Malaysia and English daily newspaper in Malaysia

5. Each completed Application Form, accompanied by the appropriate remittance and legible photocopy of the relevant documents (including a copy of your recent billing statement for your subscription to Maxis’ mobile services for postpaid) may be submitted using one of the following methods:

(i) dispatched by ORDINARY POST in the official envelopes provided, to the following address:

Malaysian Issuing House Sdn Bhd (Company No. 258345-X)
27th Floor Menara Multi-Purpose
Capital Square
No. 8, Jalan Munshi Abdullah
50100 Kuala Lumpur
P.O. Box 13269
50804 Kuala Lumpur
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(ii) DELIVERED BY HAND AND DEPOSITED in the Drop-In Boxes provided at the back portion of Menara Multi-Purpose, Capital Square, No. 8, Jalan Munshi Abdullah, 50100 Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia,

so as to arrive not later than 5.00 p.m. (Malaysian time) on 5 November 2009, or such later date or dates as the Directors of Maxis Berhad, Maxis Communications Berhad (the Selling Shareholder) and the Majority Joint Managing Underwriters (as defined in the Maxis Prospectus) in their absolute discretion may decide.

6. Enquiries in respect of the applications may be directed as follows:



Mode of application Parties to direct the enquiries
Application Forms Issuing House at telephone no. 603-2693 2075 (10 lines)
Electronic Share Application Participating Financial Institutions
Internet Share Application Internet Participating Financial Institution and Authorised Financial Institution

You may also check the status of your application on the Issuing House’s website at www.mih.com.my, or call your respective ADA at the telephone number as stated in Section 17 of the IPO Prospectus or the Issuing House at telephone no. 603-2693 2075 (10 lines) between 5 to 10 Market Days (during office hours only) after the balloting date.


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just wan to ask. In the event it is unsuccessful, the banker's draft will be returned to us? what happen next? cancel the banker's draft?
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just wan to ask. In the event it is unsuccessful, the banker's draft will be returned to us? what happen next? cancel the banker's draft?
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I guess they will refund to us by cheque.
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just wan to ask. In the event it is unsuccessful, the banker's draft will be returned to us? what happen next? cancel the banker's draft?
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Bank draft can credit back to your account.
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the envelop A and B, the address need to be same with your IC. but my IC address is back is penang, while i am staying now in KL. so which address am i suppose to write?
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the envelop A and B, the address need to be same with your IC. but my IC address is back is penang, while i am staying now in KL. so which address am i suppose to write?
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lonewolf, yours is blue or green form?
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lonewolf, yours is blue or green form?
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Huh which centre u went to? I went to the one near Bangkok Bank (Petaling Street) no one there also. I was the only customer in there. laugh.gif

Anyway I called my remisier, she say blue form is almost guaranteed one. You can still apply for more via white form. But the blue form one really need to use the form and bank draft to submit... Cannot use ESA or ATM zzz... I can't remember the last time I use a snail mail.
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mine is in penang sad.gif..lucky u
anyway if i post it out on tuesday do u guys think the form will able 2 reach them by thursday???
my dad will only be back from overseas on monday shakehead.gif

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How come everybody gets Blue form? I've been a maxis subscriber for 10 years also not eligible.
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How come everybody gets Blue form? I've been a maxis subscriber for 10 years also not eligible.
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I assume you are a postpaid subscriber.

Have you check your account in the maxis website?
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I assume you are a postpaid subscriber.

Have you check your account in the maxis website?
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Yes, I am a postpaid subscriber.

I checked my account and was told i am not eligible. Which is bad, because a colleague who spends less on his mobile subscription got an sms inviting him to collect his Blue Form.
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My sister get blue form, but she don't have CDS account.

Can I use her blue form & my own CDS account to apply? Or how long time needed to create CDS account?
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QUOTE(HappyGuy @ Oct 30 2009, 09:44 AM)
My sister get blue form, but she don't have CDS account.

Can I use her blue form & my own CDS account to apply? Or how long time needed to create CDS account?
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I think CDS account takes about 3-5 days.


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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Oct 30 2009, 09:38 AM)
Yes, I am a postpaid subscriber.

I checked my account and was told i am not eligible. Which is bad, because a colleague who spends less on his mobile subscription got an sms inviting him to collect his Blue Form.
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How much is your current usage? Sometimes they look at average spent.

My monthly bill as of now for almost 1 year has been btw RM 52.5 - RM 70 only. But somewhere in December 08 and January 09 I was charged RM 3.4K for roaming in Dubai. So I guess they look at overall amount spent for a span of a few years perhaps.

So call Maxis and check with them. No harm.

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guys, if get blueform how much is the percentage to get it? or it's 100%?
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alliance must hv subscribe allot of shares too. lol
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I think CDS account takes about 3-5 days.

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CDS can be activated/used as fast as next business day or 2 days only.
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I still see the 'to open a CDS account' in M2U eShare application, and long long ago, they will open CDS account for you in the securities company of your choice if you don't have CDS account; if that still valid?
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CDS can be activated/used as fast as next business day or 2 days only.
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QUOTE(HappyGuy @ Oct 30 2009, 09:44 AM)
My sister get blue form, but she don't have CDS account.

Can I use her blue form & my own CDS account to apply? Or how long time needed to create CDS account?
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Same question... I do not have a CDS account... can I pass my blue form to others and will they be able to use it?
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Same question... I do not have a CDS account... can I pass my blue form to others and will they be able to use it?
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I still see the 'to open a CDS account' in M2U eShare application, and long long ago, they will open CDS account for you in the securities company of your choice if you don't have CDS account; if that still valid?
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I don't know about M2U issue, never use before, nor apply IPO nowadays. I don't like nominee service anyway, due to less inefficiency than direct account, just my preference.

Should be still valid for opening CDS account issue for non-CDS successful applicants, check with our fellow remisier for confirmation.

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i got a sms on this maxis market share/blue form thingy

am i eligible? anyone know the process?

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Same question... I do not have a CDS account... can I pass my blue form to others and will they be able to use it?
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You violate the T&C of blue form IPO if you pass to others and they can reject the application. Sorry I don't know how or details is the blue form issue but surely it violates the T&C or the purpose of the blue form, unless they stated the blue form is renounceable, which I don't think so.

Why not open one? just Rm10 only, and as easy as open a bank account only.
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anyone know what is the difference between bankers cheque and demand draft?
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I have only Saving Account with Maybank can open CDS account?

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I have only Saving Account with Maybank can open CDS account?
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Must hurry up, opening CDS account need few days to activate......
not only Maybank Investment Bank, you can choose other securities, and FYI, normal Maybank is cant open CDS account
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You violate the T&C of blue form IPO if you pass to others and they can reject the application. Sorry I don't know how or details is the blue form issue but surely it violates the T&C or the purpose of the blue form, unless they stated the blue form is renounceable, which I don't think so.

Why not open one? just Rm10 only, and as easy as open a bank account only.
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Yeah I'm gonna go this afternoon to open one. Short on time though.... flying overseas on Monday and back only on Thursday night.

I'm hoping I can get a number by this afternoon or absolute latest by early Monday morning so I can submit the IPO forms immediately after. Need to open bank draft somemore leh.
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I would like subscribe to their IPO thru blue and white form. I don't have a CDS account. What is my best way to get thru?
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u need to register a CDS account via Securites.


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I would like subscribe to their IPO thru blue and white form. I don't have a CDS account. What is my best way to get thru?
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ohmy.gif No CDS account no need think.......the CDS account must under your name to subscribe
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Ok so i must get a CDS account. Which is faster? HLeBroking or Maybank?
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Ok so i must get a CDS account. Which is faster? HLeBroking or Maybank?
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As I know, Maybank Investment Bank has not many office available........you go their website check
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Why not open one? just Rm10 only, and as easy as open a bank account only.
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My sister opened new CDS account at RHBInvest centre just now. She can get the CDS account number immediately.

Less than half hour only.
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My sister opened new CDS account at RHBInvest centre just now. She can get the CDS account number immediately.

Less than half hour only.
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So fast??? how to submit form to Bursa????
you confirm thats one is CDS acc?
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wanna ask.. what document needs to be attached in the application form:

1) banker's check
2) photocopy IC
3) application form
4) Maxis recent Bill???


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So fast??? how to submit form to Bursa????
you confirm thats one is CDS acc?
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She just open the CDS acc only, not the trading account coz didnt bring pay slip.
So pretty sure that is CDS account number.
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I just get the blue form and a very thick prospectus (not going to read it) just now ..

and I am pissed off .. the prime minister shouting for 1Malaysia ..

the first item to filled in te form is : Malaysian Bumiputera , Malaysian Non Bumiputera and Non-Malaysia ..

and also i got ot know from maxis center , those who subs postpaid less than 5 years will not able to get blue form ...

i guess chances for white form submitted and u not bumiputera status very very very slim chance



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QUOTE(MoonRider @ Oct 30 2009, 03:09 PM)
I just get the blue form and a very thick prospectus (not going to read it) just now ..

and I am pissed off .. the prime minister shouting for 1Malaysia ..

the first item to filled in te form is  : Malaysian Bumiputera , Malaysian Non Bumiputera and Non-Malaysia ..

and also i got ot know from maxis center , those who subs postpaid less than 5 years will not able to get blue form ...

i guess chances for white form submitted and u not bumiputera status very very very slim chance
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Is like that one, that's just another slogan...
Why submit white form? ATM or internet banking much easier mah...

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QUOTE(MoonRider @ Oct 30 2009, 03:09 PM)
I just get the blue form and a very thick prospectus (not going to read it) just now ..

and I am pissed off .. the prime minister shouting for 1Malaysia ..

the first item to filled in te form is  : Malaysian Bumiputera , Malaysian Non Bumiputera and Non-Malaysia ..

and also i got ot know from maxis center , those who subs postpaid less than 5 years will not able to get blue form ...

i guess chances for white form submitted and u not bumiputera status very very very slim chance
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Yeah, IPOs are still subjected to minimum 50% quota for bumi. But there is no quota after listing.

Edit: Best chance to get is apply as much as you can possibly afford. I doubt anyone will get the full amount they want, so at least getting a fraction of what you apply, at least something I guess.

Or just wait until listing and buy from market.

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just give a call to MIH. They say address to fill need not be the same as ur IC if you are living somewhere else.
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and also i got ot know from maxis center , those who subs postpaid less than 5 years will not able to get blue form ...
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thanks, now i know why im not qualified for blue form.. i just switched from prepaid for postpaid for less than 3 years hmm.gif
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Dear all,

I'm new here. I applied the Trading A/C and the CDS A/C via Maybank. I tried to apply the IPO from Maybank2U.com.my, however, in the Step 5 of 5, I got error: Unsuccessful - Account is not authorized. :| Anyone have any idea about it?

I went to Maybank branch to ask, the customer service said the system has problem to identify the CDS A/C via the maybank online. And adviced me to do it via ATM machine.

I called to the Maybank Bhd Share Investment, they told me that we cannot use the CDS A/C that linked with Maybank Trading Account to apply for IPO. We gotto have a new CDS that registered directly from the Securities to apply for IPO..

Which one is correct? Blur~
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I just went to Maybank and got a clarification from their SIC branch. Their CDS account is can only use for trading and not for IPO purpose. For IPO you still need to register with a securities company. After registering with securities, you can use the CDS account with your M2U for IPO purposes.
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I just went to Maybank and got a clarification from their SIC branch. Their CDS account is can only use for trading and not for IPO purpose. For IPO you still need to register with a securities company.  After registering with securities, you can use the CDS account with your M2U for IPO purposes.
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Hi sailou,

Thanks for your reply.

I was thinking to use the maybank CDS to try out to apply via ATM later.. but think I no need to try anymore since their CDS is only used for trading.. :| so mar farn..

I got applied a CDS account before with a securities company about more than 6 years ago but that has been inactive already. Not sure need how long to re-activate it or not sure how long to apply a new CDS.. :| Maybe I have no luck to even apply for the Maxis IPO.. even apply also not sure can get..
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Go get a securities to open a CDS for you. It'll take a day to get it done. You still have time.

I'm too got caught up by this. Luckily my friend's wife is a remisier so she will help fix me up a CDS account then i can use it in M2U.

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Dear all,

I'm new here. I applied the Trading A/C and the CDS A/C via Maybank. I tried to apply the IPO from Maybank2U.com.my, however, in the Step 5 of 5, I got error: Unsuccessful - Account is not authorized. :| Anyone have any idea about it?

I went to Maybank branch to ask, the customer service said the system has problem to identify the CDS A/C via the maybank online. And adviced me to do it via ATM machine.

I called to the Maybank Bhd Share Investment, they told me that we cannot use the CDS A/C that linked with Maybank Trading Account to apply for IPO. We gotto have a new CDS that registered directly from the Securities to apply for IPO..

Which one is correct? Blur~
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Probably yours now is a nominee's account. You need a separate CDS a/c mainly for IPO.
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Probably yours now is a nominee's account. You need a separate CDS a/c mainly for IPO.
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It is a nominee account. Maybank SIC clarified they can only open nominee account which can only trade but not for IPO. I somemore die die believe Maybank is my solution.
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If your CDS account is not active, according to the securities firm you can still use to apply for IPO. You need to activate should you want to trade share later.
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any1 know to where i should submit the form ar?
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It is a nominee account. Maybank SIC clarified they can only open nominee account which can only trade but not for IPO. I somemore die die believe Maybank is my solution.
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srsly, don't you think the price 5.20 is kinda high just for the Malaysian operations?

Who knows, price might be cheaper when bought through the market on the 1st day of listing !
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srsly, don't you think the price 5.20 is kinda high just for the Malaysian operations?

Who knows, price might be cheaper when bought through the market on the 1st day of listing !
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anyone know what is the difference between bankers cheque and demand draft?
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BC - payable to payee within the same locality (KL to KL)
DD - payable to payee in different clearing zone (KL pays to JB payee)


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do u all know y maxis listing again??? tongue.gif
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request by our PM, maybe? sweat.gif

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It is a nominee account. Maybank SIC clarified they can only open nominee account which can only trade but not for IPO. I somemore die die believe Maybank is my solution.
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yeah, thats why I focus on my previous reply said "Maybank Investment Bank"
only Investment bank can open CDS account, so far I knew only at KL and Ipoh got their office
nominee account cant apply IPO
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request by our PM, maybe? sweat.gif
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Someone told me because goverment request maxis to be listing...as to attract more investor to invest in our syer market...true ?? sweat.gif
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Someone told me because goverment request maxis to be listing...as to attract more investor to invest in our syer market...true ??  sweat.gif
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yeap u are right. I also not recommending OSK eventhough their CDS can be use for IPO.
Why OSK is not recommended?

BTW, just want to know something about this CDS account. Say for example you registered a CDS account with OSK, if there is any activity (buying or selling) on that CDS account, you're liable on any charges by OSK even though you may not buy or sell through OSK?
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QUOTE(kitloon @ Oct 30 2009, 05:37 PM)
do u all know y maxis listing again??? tongue.gif
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becoz they (govt) want to suck more public money to enlarge local equity so that can attract foreign equity to invest in govt-linked companies to grow them (value/profile/debt rating/overseas venture) so that govt can get more money via taxes

(in few words: govt need foreign investment)

and for maxis to pay back loan
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Dear all,

I'm new here. I applied the Trading A/C and the CDS A/C via Maybank. I tried to apply the IPO from Maybank2U.com.my, however, in the Step 5 of 5, I got error: Unsuccessful - Account is not authorized. :| Anyone have any idea about it?

I went to Maybank branch to ask, the customer service said the system has problem to identify the CDS A/C via the maybank online. And adviced me to do it via ATM machine.

I called to the Maybank Bhd Share Investment, they told me that we cannot use the CDS A/C that linked with Maybank Trading Account to apply for IPO. We gotto have a new CDS that registered directly from the Securities to apply for IPO..

Which one is correct? Blur~
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If your CDS account is not active, according to the securities firm you can still use to apply for IPO. You need to activate should you want to trade share later.
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yeah, you are right! I just checked with the dormant account notice, it stated that I may quote the CDS account number for the purpose of crediting of securities arising from IPO..

However, just tried and I still got error on the last step rclxub.gif Status: Unsuccessful - Account is not authorised. vmad.gif so, this time maybe is the maybank2u.com.my error which the system really cannot recognize the CDS?

Maybe both the maybank staffs also gave me the correct answer just now! which i cannot use the maybank2u and also cannot use the CDS applied via maybank!
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Any one understand CIMB clicks eIPO application procedures ? I don't understand why it stated 1 lot = 100 units ?? and I was asked to key in how many units I want to apply. If I want to apply multiple lot category say 5000 shares, then I have to key in 500 units ??

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1 lot now is 100 shares.

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Any one understand CIMB clicks eIPO application procedures ? I don't understand why it stated 1 lot = 100 units ?? and I was asked to key in how many units I want to apply. If I want to apply multiple lot category say 5000 shares, then I have to key in 500 units ??
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So look like almost everyone is rushing for the IPO...........................

the re-listing seems to allow more opportunity for the rakyat malaysia to invest...

mm...... if a company re-listing can generate more things to us, i would certainly feel like something are on the way................

hopefully more and more good fundamental companies...can be listed............

for telecomunications, i would still prefer DIGI....as theirs products ...offer best price if i am not wrong....

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BTW, just want to know something about this CDS account. Say for example you registered a CDS account with OSK, if there is any activity (buying or selling) on that CDS account, you're liable on any charges by OSK even though you may not buy or sell through OSK?
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If you have OSK CDS, you can only buy and sell through OSK, you cannot use other investment brokers to sell your OSK's CDS shares.

Every CDS account is attached to a particular broker.

You can have 10 CDS account, but all cannot cross-linked with each other.
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Why OSK is not recommended?

BTW, just want to know something about this CDS account. Say for example you registered a CDS account with OSK, if there is any activity (buying or selling) on that CDS account, you're liable on any charges by OSK even though you may not buy or sell through OSK?
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because not good for beginner, interface is lousy, no free real time interface-u need to purchase as addon.
why purchase when u can get it free at HL, Jupiter, CIMB, AMbank etc.
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newbie here...1000 units equals to only 1 share which we have to pay RM5.5K if the IPO listing is RM5.5 per share?
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newbie here...1000 units equals to only 1 share which we have to pay RM5.5K if the IPO listing is RM5.5 per share?
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1 lot = 100 units of shares
we will pay minimum RM520 as the ipo state RM5.20 per unit
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wanna ask.. what document needs to be attached in the application form:

1) banker's check
2) photocopy IC
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4) Maxis recent Bill???
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do maxis ask us to fill in CDS number in the Green/Blue form.??
need clarification...
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hey
not sure if it has been asked...
i have cds acc so can i apply under my name with the maxis account under my dad's ?
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If you have OSK CDS, you can only buy and sell through OSK, you cannot use other investment brokers to sell your OSK's CDS shares.

Every CDS account is attached to a particular broker.

You can have 10 CDS account, but all cannot cross-linked with each other.
I see, then can you transfer shares you hold on one particular CDS account to another CDS account? Say from an OSK CDS account to Maybank CDS account? Is such transfer easy to do?


QUOTE(mmusang @ Oct 31 2009, 12:58 AM)
because not good for beginner, interface is lousy, no free real time interface-u need to purchase as addon.
why purchase when u can get it free at HL, Jupiter, CIMB, AMbank etc.
Then in general, which would be a good company to have a CDS account with? In terms of service, charges, interface, etc?

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I see, then can you transfer shares you hold on one particular CDS account to another CDS account? Say from an OSK CDS account to Maybank CDS account? Is such transfer easy to do?
Then in general, which would be a good company to have a CDS account with? In terms of service, charges, interface, etc?
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Yes, can do, but you need to go to the respective investment firm yourself to carry the transfer, they need to verify and some minimal cost (transfer fee) incurred.

Also Maybank is not an investment bank aka M2U is carrying nominee account type, not direct account type.

Nominee account doesn't have CDS. Those share are directly owned by M2U (behalf on you) as compared to direct account type like OSK which share is directly owned by you.


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hey
not sure if it has been asked...
i have cds acc so can i apply under my name with the maxis account under my dad's ?
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Had been asked, check earlier posts.

Technicallly, and legally, cannot.

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Hi just to share with you guys,

I have a friend who can create a new cds/trading account for you free and has the applications forms for the Maxis IPO. She is with Public Investment. Feel free to contact her at the following number.

Dory
012-2208351




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hie guys , is there any site whereby i can read to proceed in purchasing the shares from Maxis, i just took the blue form but have no clue on how to go with it .. i never purchase any share/ipo before.. do advise fellow sifus smile.gif
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hie guys , is there any site whereby i can read to proceed in purchasing the shares from Maxis, i just took the blue form but have no clue on how to go with it .. i never purchase any share/ipo before.. do advise fellow sifus smile.gif
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Wow, you have only 4 days to do this.

1)Open a direct CDS account with a securities company (Fastest already).
2)Purchase a bank draft for RM5200.
3)Fill up your blue with CDS account no. and bank draft no.
4)Handpost to address stated on the bigger envelope. There will be a post box specially for IPO application. Read back of blue form at 14.9(vii).
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sifus...

my IC address is old address, but in the blue form it says

need to have the same address as my IC?

shud i put old address(wont reach me) or new address?

Zzzzzz headache
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can i buy for Rm1000 which mean 195 units instead of 1000units??... Coz, rm5200 is too much for since it is way out of my budget...newb here.. sweat.gif

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eh guys.. can i buy the IPO thru CIMBclicks?

and i wanna uplift my e-FD in MBB to convert to buy maxis IPO units..

can any1 answer me
i) is ther any charges on uplifting the E-FD in maybank?
ii) 1 unit = RM5.20, will this price fluctuate once it goes live?

Thanks
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can i buy for Rm1000 which mean 195 units  instead of 1000units??... Coz, rm5200 is too much for since it is way out of my budget...newb here.. sweat.gif
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sweat.gif the size is base on lot, 100 unit share for each lot, so you can buy 2 lot..........but highly not recommend because when you sell the share, it will charges you brokerage fees, the fees come with minimum charges
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eh guys.. can i buy the IPO thru CIMBclicks?

and i wanna uplift my e-FD in MBB to convert to buy maxis IPO units..

can any1 answer me
i) is ther any charges on uplifting the E-FD in maybank?
ii) 1 unit = RM5.20, will this price fluctuate once it goes live?

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i) e-fd upliftment is FREE for Maybank.
ii) there's a risk that it might. anything is possible.
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QUOTE(sailou @ Oct 31 2009, 05:13 PM)
Wow, you have only 4 days to do this.

1)Open a direct CDS account with a securities company (Fastest already).
2)Purchase a bank draft for RM5200.
3)Fill up your blue with CDS account no. and bank draft no.
4)Handpost to address stated on the bigger envelope. There will be a post box specially for IPO application. Read back of blue form at 14.9(vii).
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hi Sailou,

Thank you so much for the summary, i need to ensure i can get the CDS account by Monday and prepare the bank draft ASAP.

i really wish i could make it in time smile.gif

will there be any other chargers ?

Edit :
will there be any chargers opening CDS account ?
bank draft ?
or any other etc etc that we may need to know off but is unaware ?

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Yes, can do, but you need to go to the respective investment firm yourself to carry the transfer, they need to verify and some minimal cost (transfer fee) incurred.

Also Maybank is not an investment bank aka M2U is carrying nominee account type, not direct account type. 

Nominee account doesn't have CDS. Those share are directly owned by M2U (behalf on you) as compared to direct account type like OSK which share is directly owned by you.


Added on October 31, 2009, 11:36 am

Had been asked, check earlier posts.

Technicallly, and legally, cannot.
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Cherroy,

Given that Maybank2u offers only Nominee acc, does Public Investment Bank (Public Bank) shares the same concept?, i was told that Pbb is totally different M2U and that they could open up a CDS account, given that they are a independent broker.
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hi Sailou,

Thank you so much for the summary, i need to ensure i can get the CDS account by Monday and prepare the bank draft ASAP.

i really wish i could make it in time smile.gif

will there be any other chargers ?

Edit :
will there be any chargers opening CDS account ?
bank draft ?
or any other etc etc that we may need to know off but is unaware ?
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Normally CDS is about RM10 but some places waives it.

Bank draft will cost less than RM10.

I thought CDS takes a few days to activate. But I may be wrong and it could be the trading account that takes longer. Just try anyway.
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hi skiddtrader , thank for the info smile.gif , duno if i could attempt to make it or not tongue.gif gona call CIMB Investment 1st thing tomorrow
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do maxis ask us to fill in CDS number in the Green/Blue form.??
need clarification...
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YES, they need ur cds account. However, for the latest maxis bill to be attached is abit strange. In the maxis website stated we need to photocopy our latest bill however in the blue form, it never said. might call up MIH to clarify
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Cherroy,

Given that Maybank2u offers only Nominee acc, does Public Investment Bank (Public Bank) shares the same concept?, i was told that Pbb is totally different M2U and that they could open up a CDS account, given that they are a independent broker.
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Direct account upon request.
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Anyone knows of security firm nearby 1 Utama, or surrounding area? I want to open a CDS account tomorrow.
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QUOTE(crystal_kit85 @ Nov 1 2009, 12:35 AM)
Cherroy,

Given that Maybank2u offers only Nominee acc, does Public Investment Bank (Public Bank) shares the same concept?, i was told that Pbb is totally different M2U and that they could open up a CDS account, given that they are a independent broker.
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Ordinary bank won't carry direct account, it is the investment bank, securities firms that are carrying direct account.

Both Maybank and Public bank has their respective investment bank, which is their subsidiaries but under different entity, which cannot cross-linked on each others.

So check with your respective brokers for clarification.


QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Nov 1 2009, 12:35 AM)
I thought CDS takes a few days to activate. But I may be wrong and it could be the trading account that takes longer. Just try anyway.
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From my experience, acccount activated as soon as next business day.
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Anyone knows of security firm nearby 1 Utama, or surrounding area? I want to open a CDS account tomorrow.
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I can only remember of Hong Leong Investment Bank in Uptown. Opposite the police station, the building next to LX Mode
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wow....judging from walking past maxis centres, and conversations with friends, it seems like everybody is applying for Maxis shares like their 300% sure it's going to go up, up , and UP ! laugh.gif
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wow....judging from walking past maxis centres, and conversations with friends, it seems like everybody is applying for Maxis shares like their 300% sure it's going to go up, up , and UP !  laugh.gif
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Both my bosses also talked to me about Maxis. The junior boss say sure can make money one. The senior boss say price can go above RM10 brows.gif


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Both my bosses also talked to me about Maxis. The junior boss say sure can make money one.  The senior boss say price can go above RM10  brows.gif
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No logic for it to go beyond Rm10 with EPS of 30 cents.

Max around 6-7 only, just my guess, I could be wrong, as market sometimes can act illogically one due to human sentiment. icon_rolleyes.gif

If the listed Maxis is including overseas one, then yes, it could go beyond Rm10.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 1 2009, 09:06 PM)
No logic for it to go beyond Rm10 with EPS of 30 cents.

Max around 6-7 only, just my guess, I could be wrong, as market sometimes can act illogically one due to human sentiment.  icon_rolleyes.gif

If the listed Maxis is including overseas one, then yes, it could go beyond Rm10.
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Agree. But since my big boss is sharing his "wisdom" with me, I just smile and humour him-lah.

Are you subscribing to this IPO? brows.gif


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QUOTE(Malefic @ Oct 28 2009, 09:16 AM)
I'm seriously thinking of skipping this IPO .... coz I doubt Buffett and Graham would have subscribed to it   laugh.gif

IMHO, RM5.20 (I know it's tentative) is too expensive, especially since Maxis is in a very competative industry and has been slowly losing market share.

Anyway, will wait for research houses' reports before deciding.
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Anyway, I've more or less decided NOT to subscribe to Maxis IPO.

My reasons:
- PE at 17 is too high.
- Earnings have been more or less flat for the past few years.
- I don't buy the 'growth will come from broadbrand' line. IMHO, Digi's mobile broadbands pwns Maxis and Celcom. And Celcom BB has twice the subscribers of Maxis. Then there's TM's dominant Streamyx and upcoming HSBB (which I will subscribe to) ... and Wimax.
- I don't buy the "growth will come from East Coast, rural areas of Sabah/Sarawak". People there are generally poor, and unlikely to contribute much to Maxis' bottomline. And they are more likely to support Celcom.
- If I want DY, I'll be better off buying REITs or stocks in low capex businesses
- I always believe in 'buy low, sell high' even though it's difficult to practise. I'm not about to buy high now.

I know I'll be pulling my hair when the price shoots up on the first day of listing vmad.gif

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Just my opinion. I agree with Malefic. Malaysia , having mobile peneration rate of 99%, means that there is not much room for growth. With India n Indonesia excluded, it means Maxis price post-listing will not have much upside. Why would investors pay RM10-00 for a mature company with little growth?
Telekom is a mature company with fixed line on the decline. It now relies on broadband for growth. Its price is around RM3-00 with a dividend yield of around 8%

Maxis has stated its intention to borrow RM5 billion to pay off its shareholders.

Post-listing, almost everyone owns Maxis, all institutional investors here owns Maxis, Foreign funds already own Maxis. Who will pay RM10-00 to buy Maxis?I think its post-listing price would be around RM5.30 to 5.50. Investors would probably not make a loss but they would probably not make much money. The offer price is the market price the sellers think it is worth.

People may recall that Maxis went to RM15-00 before it was delisted. But bear in mind that at that time, the majority shareholders are already quietly buying back all the shares in the open market. This time around, they are listing Maxis n not buying back Maxis.

This said, It does not mean that I would not apply for the shares. It is only that my expectations are far less than most people.I went to Maxis centre in Ipoh last Saturday but there was no queue for the IPO forms.

Post-listing, Maxis is a company heavily in debt, have a business with not much growth and slowing losing its marketshare.


Added on November 1, 2009, 10:50 pmOSK published its analysis which put Maxis post-listing price from RM5-30 to RM5-80.


Added on November 1, 2009, 11:20 pmThis is the comment quoted by a remisier from Kenanga Investment Bank Bhd.

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One of the more common misconception about the re-quotation of Maxis on our exchange is that it is attractive as the retail IPO price for the re-quotation of Maxis at RM5.20 apiece is lower than the price of RM15.60 apiece that Ananda Krishnan paid to take it private in 2007. Before we examine this issue, let's refer to the Maxis that was privatized in 2007 as Maxis 2007 & the new Maxis to be listed as Maxis 2009.

Maxis 2007 was listed on the exchange in 2002 with the retail IPO price was RM4.36. In 2007, Ananda paid RM17.5 billion to acquire the remaining 53.3% of Maxis 2007 that he did not own (or, at a price of RM15.60 per share). This deal valued the entire company at RM32.9 billion. Maxis 2007 consists of the Malaysian operation and two overseas operation, i.e. a 74%-stake in Aircel Ltd, India and a 95%-stake in PT Natrindo Telepon Seluler, Indonesia.

Maxis 2009 has a capital base of 7.5 billion shares (compared with 2.1 billion shares for Maxis 2007 at the point of privatization). The retail IPO price is RM5.20 per share- valuing the company at RM39.0 billion. Maxis 2009 is a purely Malaysian telco play. The Indian & Indonesian operations have been stripped off and joined Ananda's private group of companies.

So, Maxis 2009 is valued at 18.5% higher than Maxis 2007 and it does not come with Indian & Indonesian operations. While not discounting the possibility that Maxis may surprise us on the upside in the years to come, we must accept the fact that Maxis 2009 as offered is anything but cheap. If you buy into this stock, you must be prepared to hold it for long term.

Maxis is very similar to Digi.com Bhd ('Digi') as both are involved in mobile telecommunication services in Malaysia only. Digi has just announced its results for 9-month ended 30/9/2009 yesterday (see Table 2 below). Digi ((closed at RM21.76 at the end of the morning session) is now trading at a PE of 16.8 times (based on the annualized EPS of 129.3 sen).
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Just my opinion. I agree with Malefic. Malaysia , having mobile peneration rate of 99%, means that there is not much room for growth. With India n Indonesia excluded, it means Maxis price post-listing will not have much upside. Why would investors pay RM10-00 for a mature company with little growth?
Telekom is a mature company with fixed line on the decline. It now relies on broadband for growth. Its price is around RM3-00 with a dividend yield of around 8%

Maxis has stated its intention to borrow RM5 billion to pay off its shareholders.

Post-listing, almost everyone owns Maxis, all institutional investors here owns Maxis, Foreign funds already own Maxis. Who will pay RM10-00 to buy Maxis?I think its post-listing price would be around RM5.30 to 5.50. Investors would probably not make a loss but they would probably not make much money. The offer price is the market price the sellers think it is worth.

People may recall that Maxis went  to RM15-00 before it was delisted. But bear in mind that at that time, the majority shareholders are already quietly buying back all the shares in the open market. This time around, they are listing Maxis n not buying back Maxis.

This said, It does not mean that I would not apply for the shares. It is only that my expectations are far less than most people.I went to Maxis centre in Ipoh last Saturday but there was no queue for the IPO forms.

Post-listing, Maxis is a company heavily in debt, have a business with not much growth and slowing losing its marketshare.


Added on November 1, 2009, 10:50 pmOSK published its analysis which put Maxis post-listing price from RM5-30 to RM5-80.


Added on November 1, 2009, 11:20 pmThis is the comment quoted by a remisier from Kenanga Investment Bank Bhd.

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One of the more common misconception about the re-quotation of Maxis on our exchange is that it is attractive as the retail IPO price for the re-quotation of Maxis at RM5.20 apiece is lower than the price of RM15.60 apiece that Ananda Krishnan paid to take it private in 2007. Before we examine this issue, let's refer to the Maxis that was privatized in 2007 as Maxis 2007 & the new Maxis to be listed as Maxis 2009.

Maxis 2007 was listed on the exchange in 2002 with the retail IPO price was RM4.36. In 2007, Ananda paid RM17.5 billion to acquire the remaining 53.3% of Maxis 2007 that he did not own (or, at a price of RM15.60 per share). This deal valued the entire company at RM32.9 billion. Maxis 2007 consists of the Malaysian operation and two overseas operation, i.e. a 74%-stake in Aircel Ltd, India and a 95%-stake in PT Natrindo Telepon Seluler, Indonesia.

Maxis 2009 has a capital base of 7.5 billion shares (compared with 2.1 billion shares for Maxis 2007 at the point of privatization). The retail IPO price is RM5.20 per share- valuing the company at RM39.0 billion. Maxis 2009 is a purely Malaysian telco play. The Indian & Indonesian operations have been stripped off and joined Ananda's private group of companies.

So, Maxis 2009 is valued at 18.5% higher than Maxis 2007 and it does not come with Indian & Indonesian operations. While not discounting the possibility that Maxis may surprise us on the upside in the years to come, we must accept the fact that Maxis 2009 as offered is anything but cheap. If you buy into this stock, you must be prepared to hold it for long term.

Maxis is very similar to Digi.com Bhd ('Digi') as both are involved in mobile telecommunication services in Malaysia only. Digi has just announced its results for 9-month ended 30/9/2009 yesterday (see Table 2 below). Digi ((closed at RM21.76 at the end of the morning session) is now trading at a PE of 16.8 times (based on the annualized EPS of 129.3 sen).
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agree with you.
Malaysia mobile is a matured market, so mobile service maybe not the pie that we want, but the trick is within its data services and high than average revenue per user, and leading in the telco industry.

funny enough, what is the point to have RM5.20 as IPO while the company privatised it around RM15.6 2 years ago?The main reason might be selling 25% the holding company of Maxis ,then relisting it without it's oversea lossing money sub, hey, it's that brillant? AK just restructured his company, with hefty profit, stablised local sub while reap on it oversea potential without having worrying the approve of minority shareholder?

True, maybe we all find oversea adventure unacceptable for those investor who wish to have a prudent, stable and consistent dividend counter, aren't too we are too happy to find all those restructuring plan are now gone? Maxis, from growth to grown, now a dividend counter for years to come.


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YES, they need ur cds account. However, for the latest maxis bill to be attached is abit strange. In the maxis website stated we need to photocopy our latest bill however in the blue form, it never said. might call up MIH to clarify
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Personally I don't think Maxis broadband will give much growth to its earnings because of stiff competition. In fact, lots of people complained about Maxis broadband too expensive and they have hidden charges which they didn't explain to their potential customers..and many of my friends already unsubscribed from Maxis broadband..talking about losing customers..haha

And I don't think East Malaysia will give much growth to Maxis too..only developed places like Kuching, Miri and Kota Kinabalu will have lots of internet users and we have to remember that Digi and Celcom has a strong presence there.
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i'm interested in subscribing the IPO. any idea how can i apply for it??
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Summary :
<<<1st Method >>>
If you are Maxis Post Paid Customer

<<<2nd Method >>>
Go with White Form, ESA, ISA thru onlinebanking or ATM

Details :

<<<2nd Method >>>
Maxis IPO - Electronic Share Application ESA for Retail Public
From Link >> http://investmentaction.blogspot.com/2009/...pplication.html


Malaysian Public can apply for Maxis IPO
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1. White Form
2. or ESA ( Electronic Share Application ) thru ATM ( RM2.50 charges )
3. or Internet Share Application thru the followings :-
i. CIMB www.eipocimb.com RM2 charge if pay thru CIMB Bank Berhad, RM5 if pay thru Maybank
ii. CIM www.cimbclicks.com.my RM2 charge for applicants with CDS accounts held with CIMB and RM2.5 for applicants with CDS accounts with other ADAs.
iii. Maybank www.maybank2u.com.my RM1
iv RHB www.rhbbank.com.my RM2.50
v Affin Bank www.affinonline.com NO FEES for application by their account holders

Details please see page 379 of Prospectus of Maxis IPO


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Maxis IPO - Blue Form for Maxis Postpaid Customer
From Link >> http://investmentaction.blogspot.com/2009/...s-postpaid.html

To eligible customers only
Name :
Owner of Account Number :

1. You have met the eligibility criteria for active postpaid customers of Maxis’ mobile services (other than Elite members of the Maxis One Club), and as such you are eligible to apply for 1,000 Offer Shares pursuant to the Retail Offering using the BLUE Application Form. A successful applicant will receive 1,000 Offer Shares each. Terms and conditions apply.

As an eligible postpaid customer who has made an application using the BLUE Application Form, you may still apply for the Offer Shares offered to the Malaysian public using the WHITE Application Form, Electronic Share Application or Internet Share Application.

2. However, please be advised that applicants using the BLUE and WHITE Application Forms are not allowed to submit multiple applications in the same category of application. Further, applicants who have submitted their applications using the WHITE Application Form are not allowed to make additional application using the Electronic Share Applications and Internet Share Applications.

3. You may obtain a copy of the BLUE Application Form and Maxis Prospectus from the nearest Maxis Centre / Maxis Exclusive Partners (MEPs) Centre.

4. The Retail Offering opened at 10.00 a.m. (Malaysian time) on 28 October 2009 and will close at 5.00 p.m. (Malaysian time) on 5 November 2009. The Directors of Maxis Berhad, Maxis Communications Berhad (the Selling Shareholder) and the Majority Joint Managing Underwriters (as defined in the Maxis Prospectus) may decide in their absolute discretion to extend the closing time and date for applications under the Retail Offering to any later date or dates. Any extension will be announced in a widely circulated Bahasa Malaysia and English daily newspaper in Malaysia

5. Each completed Application Form, accompanied by the appropriate remittance and legible photocopy of the relevant documents (including a copy of your recent billing statement for your subscription to Maxis’ mobile services for postpaid) may be submitted using one of the following methods:

(i) dispatched by ORDINARY POST in the official envelopes provided, to the following address:

Malaysian Issuing House Sdn Bhd (Company No. 258345-X)
27th Floor Menara Multi-Purpose
Capital Square
No. 8, Jalan Munshi Abdullah
50100 Kuala Lumpur
P.O. Box 13269
50804 Kuala Lumpur
Malaysia

(ii) DELIVERED BY HAND AND DEPOSITED in the Drop-In Boxes provided at the back portion of Menara Multi-Purpose, Capital Square, No. 8, Jalan Munshi Abdullah, 50100 Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia,

so as to arrive not later than 5.00 p.m. (Malaysian time) on 5 November 2009, or such later date or dates as the Directors of Maxis Berhad, Maxis Communications Berhad (the Selling Shareholder) and the Majority Joint Managing Underwriters (as defined in the Maxis Prospectus) in their absolute discretion may decide.

6. Enquiries in respect of the applications may be directed as follows:

Mode of application Parties to direct the enquiries
Application Forms Issuing House at telephone no. 603-2693 2075 (10 lines)
Electronic Share Application Participating Financial Institutions
Internet Share Application Internet Participating Financial Institution and Authorised Financial Institution

You may also check the status of your application on the Issuing House’s website at www.mih.com.my, or call your respective ADA at the telephone number as stated in Section 17 of the IPO Prospectus or the Issuing House at telephone no. 603-2693 2075 (10 lines) between 5 to 10 Market Days (during office hours only) after the balloting date.


Added on November 2, 2009, 10:13 amMaxis IPO - Book Building, Private Placement, Institutional Tranche Status

* Info below means that the respond for the institutional allocation is highly sought after and CIMB is seeking in more bidders overseas as well. If you guys got it, it will likely to go north smile.gif *

Info: 30/10/09

MAXIS - Institutional tranche now over 2x covered

The institutional tranche is now over 2x covered. Asia 1on1s are being converted and quality in book is increasing. Balance of local vs Int'l demand is now 50/50. The roadshow still has Middle East, London, Europe, and USA to go with over 50x 1on1 meetings. Orders in to book prior to end of week-one (cob today) will be looked upon favorably in allocation process.

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anyone can confirm on this?

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Anyone can clarify on this?
Do we  need to submit the Maxis bill as well?
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funny enough, what is the point to have RM5.20 as IPO while the company privatised it around RM15.6 2 years ago?The main reason might be selling 25% the holding company of Maxis ,then relisting it without it's oversea lossing money sub, hey, it's that brillant? AK just restructured his company, with hefty profit, stablised local sub while reap on it oversea potential without having worrying the approve of minority shareholder?

True, maybe we all find oversea adventure unacceptable for those investor who wish to have a prudent, stable and consistent dividend counter, aren't too we are too happy to find all those restructuring plan are now gone? Maxis, from growth to grown, now a dividend counter for years to come.
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Don't compared the previous privatised Maxis with current IPO Maxis. They are different entity.

Previously privatised Maxis is including every Maxis business. Now is Maxis (Malaysia) only.

Just the name is Maxis, doesn't mean it is the same company.

Yes, somehow the purpose of privatisation of previous Maxis is about oversea business venture issue. <-- which most analysts agree on although AK never reveal the main intention of it publicly.
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It is stated in the procedure that bill must be included. For ebilling, can we print the bill ourself or do we need Maxis outlet to print it?
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Don't compared the previous privatised Maxis with current IPO Maxis. They are different entity.

Previously privatised Maxis is including every Maxis business. Now is Maxis (Malaysia) only.

Just the name is Maxis, doesn't mean it is the same company.

Yes, somehow the purpose of privatisation of previous Maxis is about oversea business venture issue. <-- which most analysts agree on although AK never reveal the main intention of it publicly.
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Just drawing a line between Maxis and Maxis Malaysia ,
in fact, Maxis Malaysia is more suitable for the new entity.

Oversea business venture are painful memory for some, mainly Maybank shareholder,
but the main point is AK isn't going to get what he need if he let Maxis staying in the market,
the approval of seperating both Maxis and Maxis international subs, so he will have to take everything down.
Now it's time to raise it up, just with Malaysia subs, and it maybe his planning from the beginning,
release all the international stake from Maxis Malaysia, stablize the company, then pay huge dividend (RM600 million) before going listing again.

Same may apply for Sarawak Energy and Bernas , which can't count on the minority shareholder.
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any one able to apply the Maxis IPO via Maybank ATM machine? Seems like the Maybank ATM machine cannot perform this transaction too.. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(wwloon32 @ Nov 2 2009, 12:01 PM)
Just drawing a line between Maxis and Maxis Malaysia ,
in fact, Maxis Malaysia is more suitable for the new entity.

Oversea business venture are painful memory for some, mainly Maybank shareholder,
but the main point is AK isn't going to get what he need if he let Maxis staying in the market,
the approval of seperating both Maxis and Maxis international subs, so he will have to take everything down.
Now it's time to raise it up, just with Malaysia subs, and it maybe his planning from the beginning,
release all the international stake from Maxis Malaysia, stablize the company, then pay huge dividend (RM600 million) before going listing again.

Same may apply for Sarawak Energy and Bernas , which can't count on the minority shareholder.
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For me, I rather take the old maxis, maybe because I prefer growth, but there is no such thing as 'one size fit all', so we have to adjust our own portfolio in accordance with risk appetite/ expectation...
New maxis is going to be a dividend stock...
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any one able to apply the Maxis IPO via Maybank ATM machine? Seems like the Maybank ATM machine cannot perform this transaction too..  rclxub.gif
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I did it before, and it deduct money directly from my maybank account.

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1. what does a blue form means? meaning confirm allotment of share once our application is acceptable?

2. Saw green form around too and wondeirng what is it about.

3. if we apply online, will it affect our status since not many of them are given blue form

4. i am currently staying at the add not stated in my ic, wondering how the refund is going to be if they send it to my old add.

new bies here urgent reply is needed thanks.
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may i know when will know result since i applied through maybank as well


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I did it before, and it deduct money directly from my maybank account.
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same here, hopefully can get cool2.gif

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may i know when will know result since i applied through maybank as well


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same here, hopefully can get cool2.gif
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Close at 5th, earliest also next Monday evening wah... After the price determination date of 09/11/09.
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may i know when will know result since i applied through maybank as well


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mm.. how come when I applied via maybank online and maybank atm.. both also cannot sad.gif

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KENANGA is offering deposit box. I was wondering whether to use ordinary post manually or to deposit at KENANGA? Anyone knows which one is better?
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mm.. how come when I applied via maybank online and maybank atm.. both also cannot  sad.gif
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by the way, when you guys applied via maybank atm, you put your monies in the saving account or in the premier account? both account also ok? i put my monies in premier account and got error.. icon_question.gif
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I tried this morning with money from saving accounts and it works.
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Close at 5th, earliest also next Monday evening wah... After the price determination date of 09/11/09.
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so fast, thats good


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mm.. how come when I applied via maybank online and maybank atm.. both also cannot  sad.gif
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need another cds from broker...mine is TA...seems like cannot apply directly from maybank

QUOTE(yooyoo @ Nov 2 2009, 01:52 PM)
by the way, when you guys applied via maybank atm, you put your monies in the saving account or in the premier account? both account also ok? i put my monies in premier account and got error..  icon_question.gif
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must put in savings account...u need to fax a form to ur maybank to transfer back the money to savings

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1. what does a blue form means? meaning confirm allotment of share once our application is acceptable?

2. Saw green form around too and wondeirng what is it about.

3. if we apply online, will it affect our status since not many of them are given blue form

4.  i am currently staying at the add not stated in my ic, wondering how the refund is going to be if they send it to my old add.

new bies here urgent reply is needed thanks.
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I believe blue form will stand higher chance , and max u can buy using blue form is 1 lot. And blueform is only for Maxis subcriber who been with maxis for 5 yers and above.

And i dont think blueform holder is more than 50k, so chances are very high.... u need to used ur ic address ..
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by the way, when you guys applied via maybank atm, you put your monies in the saving account or in the premier account? both account also ok? i put my monies in premier account and got error..  icon_question.gif
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both can as long u have money and valid cds account

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may i know when will know result since i applied through maybank as well


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actually it's doesn't mean much, I just keep it as a token, applying 100 shares (1 lot),
the chance is 20%, maybe less, and apply 1000 maybe same as apply 100, since the demand is so hugh they may only allot 100 shares for each successfull apply.
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QUOTE(de.crystal @ Nov 2 2009, 12:54 PM)
1. what does a blue form means? meaning confirm allotment of share once our application is acceptable?

2. Saw green form around too and wondeirng what is it about.

3. if we apply online, will it affect our status since not many of them are given blue form

4.  i am currently staying at the add not stated in my ic, wondering how the refund is going to be if they send it to my old add.

new bies here urgent reply is needed thanks.
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QUOTE(MoonRider @ Nov 2 2009, 02:08 PM)
I believe blue form will stand higher chance , and max u can buy using blue form is 1 lot. And blueform is only for Maxis subcriber who been with maxis for 5 yers and above.

And i dont think blueform holder is more than 50k, so chances are very high.... u need to used ur ic address ..
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I thought these points had already been discussed earlier in this thread?
Why going around in circles and bring it up again?
If seriously want to invest, first thing is to invest some time and read (research) about the investment.
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actually it's doesn't mean much, I just keep it as a token, applying 100 shares (1 lot),
the chance is 20%, maybe less, and apply 1000 maybe same as apply 100, since the demand is so hugh they may only allot 100 shares for each successfull apply.
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From past experience, they will allot 1,000 share for those apply 1,000 share or above.
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QUOTE(mmusang @ Nov 2 2009, 02:10 PM)
both can as long u have money and valid cds account
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are there any pros and cons in choosing which broker to open CDS account with?..

also, I believe the IPO Price is RM5.20, right?.. It's written in the form.. so i guess 1,000 units would be 5.2k... sorry for newbie questions..
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are there any pros and cons in choosing which broker to open CDS account with?..

also, I believe the IPO Price is RM5.20, right?..  It's written in the form.. so i guess 1,000 units would be 5.2k...  sorry for newbie questions..
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I think the exact price will be determine later, but around RM5.20 plus minus
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Also, the recipient of the bankers cheque should be "MIH Share Issue Account No. 475"..


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How many here agree with me that Maxis will be around RM7-RM10 at leat by first quearter 2010...

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How many here agree with me that Maxis will be around RM7-RM10 at leat by first quearter 2010...
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well anything is possible. laugh.gif

moonrider, you must have applied for the IPO, tee-hee!
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Nov 2 2009, 03:05 PM)
well anything is possible. laugh.gif

moonrider, you must have applied for the IPO, tee-hee!
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blue form .. biggrin.gif ..

there is no reason why i dont bid the maxis share ..
biggest IPO in South East Asia ....
ananda is the second richest man in Malaysia ...


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And i dont think blueform holder is more than 50k, so chances are very high.... u need to used ur ic address ..
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I jz checked with the staff they said use current add
so how ya



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QUOTE(de.crystal @ Nov 2 2009, 03:07 PM)
I jz checked with the staff they said use current add
so how ya
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it is written clearly in the form ... so u trust the form or trust maxis staff blink.gif
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QUOTE(MoonRider @ Nov 2 2009, 03:14 PM)
it is written clearly in the form ... so u trust the form or trust maxis staff  blink.gif
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if this is the case, how is the refund going to be done since i no longer stay at the NRIC's add?

btw i asked MIH's personnel.

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yeah regarding the address just got a clarfication from Public Investment bank ppl..but I can still be wrong so dont butabuta follow me..

The IPO Maxis form doesnt have any as per IC add or correspondence add..only on envelope A and B.

The CDS account application form, however, has both as per IC and current living address. So, they told me if the bid fails, the will return the cheque using the current address as registered in the CDS account.

For the envelope given by Maxis, be it blue, green or white, just put your current address, no need to follow as per IC as all information will still need to be pointed back to your CDS account.
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QUOTE(MoonRider @ Nov 2 2009, 03:03 PM)
How many here agree with me that Maxis will be around RM7-RM10 at leat by first quearter 2010...
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after listing it should be around rm6 to 7,
first quarter 2010 should be around RM7 to 8 since hp penetration is already 90%+, it has less
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After listing, price should be around around RM5.8k - RM6.20++

Next level should be around RM7-8k by 1Q 2010.

Don't think it can hit above RM10K by mid 2010 unless market is super bullish during that time.
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QUOTE(altism @ Nov 2 2009, 04:09 PM)
yeah regarding the address just got a clarfication from Public Investment bank ppl..but I can still be wrong so dont butabuta follow me..

The IPO Maxis form doesnt have any as per IC add or correspondence add..only on envelope A and B.

The CDS account application form, however, has both as per IC and current living address. So, they told me if the bid fails, the will return the cheque using the current address as registered in the CDS account.

For the envelope given by Maxis, be it blue, green or white, just put your current address, no need to follow as per IC as all information will still need to be pointed back to your CDS account.
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but we have to surrender our NRIC by when, they would be able to do the vetting. So hows ya. Andy 2nd opinion. Faint. rclxub.gif
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Wah today rushed to fill up and post the blue form. Got confused when I realised my bankers cheque got no number... so didn't fill up the bottom space. alamak! doh.gif

Anyway I did my bankers cheque in Public bank, I wasn't the only one today and am glad they have a dedicated counter to issue bank cheque, draft and blah blah. They even knew how to fill up everything. Which was a good thing coz i didn't had time to read the blue form to issue the cheque to whom.

I send my copy of IC and latest bill. Don't know whether needed but didn't care too much. At least if they don't need it they can throw it. Better than when they need it and I didn't send in.

Applied for public shares as well through ATM. Quite easy and straight forward. Just need to have your CDS number nearby and enough cash in the bank.

Blue form issue from maxis center was a bit strict at my place, need to produce IC for them to check online, then only give me a copy of the blue form, 2 envelopes and the thick prospectus.

Anyway hope I get lucky this IPO. rclxms.gif
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Is it mandatory to have the CDS account and trading account under the same investment bank?
Or can we open CDS in an investment bank but choose to open a trading account in another investment bank?


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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Nov 2 2009, 04:55 PM)
Wah today rushed to fill up and post the blue form. Got confused when I realised my bankers cheque got no number... so didn't fill up the bottom space. alamak!  doh.gif

Anyway I did my bankers cheque in Public bank, I wasn't the only one today and am glad they have a dedicated counter to issue bank cheque, draft and blah blah. They even knew how to fill up everything. Which was a good thing coz i didn't had time to read the blue form to issue the cheque to whom.

I send my copy of IC and latest bill. Don't know whether needed but didn't care too much. At least if they don't need it they can throw it. Better than when they need it and I didn't send in.

Applied for public shares as well through ATM. Quite easy and straight forward. Just need to have your CDS number nearby and enough cash in the bank.

Blue form issue from maxis center was a bit strict at my place, need to produce IC for them to check online, then only give me a copy of the blue form, 2 envelopes and the thick prospectus.

Anyway hope I get lucky this IPO.  rclxms.gif
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Hi, what did u put as the recipient for the bankers cheque?
Thanks

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Is it mandatory to have the CDS account and trading account under the same investment bank?
Or can we open CDS in an investment bank but choose to open a trading account in another investment bank?


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Hi, what did u put as the recipient for the bankers cheque?
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That MIH 475 something. It's in the blue form. I forgot what it is but something in the line of that. The bankers cheque printed out was like that.
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both can as long u have money and valid cds account
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Dear all,

Just to share, if apply via Maybank online, you gotto make sure your monies is in your saving account. Previously I have my monies in premier account and keep on got error. Afterthat, I transferred the monies to saving account and it works wink.gif
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Dear all sifus,

Need some comments here.
My father has a CDS account that dormant for 5 yrs!! tongue.gif which opened through TA Securities.
He wanna to apply IPO too. Asked me to settle for him, and become my problems!! icon_question.gif

And I hv checked with securities firm, the operator said is dormant, need to go to the center and pay RM 5 to reactivate it only can apply for IPO , is that true?
Can I reactivate on behalf of my father?

But I read through KLSE, it said that the acc is dormant not exceed 3 yrs and is inactive after 3 yrs. U still can continue to perform all forms of CDS transactions except for outward transfers and trade activities. So izzit true?
Any experience such prob before?




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QUOTE(gunnerstkd @ Nov 2 2009, 04:58 PM)
Is it mandatory to have the CDS account and trading account under the same investment bank?
Or can we open CDS in an investment bank but choose to open a trading account in another investment bank?
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No, you cannot have CDS in A then trade at B.

QUOTE(moniqueyong @ Nov 2 2009, 05:29 PM)
Dear all sifus,

Need some comments here.
My father has a CDS account that dormant for 5 yrs!! tongue.gif  which opened through TA Securities. 
He wanna to apply IPO too. Asked me to settle for him, and become my problems!!  icon_question.gif

And I hv checked with securities firm, the operator said is dormant, need to go to the center and pay RM 5 to reactivate it only can apply for IPO , is that true?
Can I reactivate on behalf of my father?

But I read through KLSE, it said that the acc is dormant not exceed 3 yrs and is inactive after 3 yrs. U still can continue to perform all forms of CDS transactions except for outward transfers and trade activities. So izzit true?
Any experience such prob before?
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No, you cannot activate on behalf. The account holder must personally activate it.
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Hi there people, Sorry to ask these few questions, but I'm really confused as I'm a first time share investor.

First of all, I am of 20 Years of age, Would I Be able to apply for maxis shares during their IPO?

Secondly, I am a maxis postpaid customer and the account is under my name. What procedure would you recommend for me to apply?

Thirdly, would I need a guarantor as I'm below 21? I'm really not clear of these rules as I'm buying shares for the first time in my life.

Thank you very much.
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QUOTE(de.crystal @ Nov 2 2009, 04:34 PM)
but we have to surrender our NRIC by when, they would be able to do the vetting.  So hows ya.  Andy 2nd opinion.  Faint.  rclxub.gif
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please.
planning to get things done by tomorrow
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I've just opened a CDS with kenanga and they have a box for maxis IPO submission..

They told me that the last day to submit the form to them is Wednesday and by then they will send all the applications to Maxis and they say they will guarantee it reaches in time..

cheers..
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QUOTE(yooyoo @ Nov 2 2009, 05:21 PM)
Dear all,

Just to share, if apply via Maybank online, you gotto make sure your monies is in your saving account. Previously I have my monies in premier account and keep on got error. Afterthat, I transferred the monies to saving account and it works wink.gif
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Ooo, u mean premier account for trading?, then it is not valid, u even not able to move it between account.
I just apply IPO from premier account(non-trading, check account) , and it is fine for me.
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QUOTE(tysern @ Nov 2 2009, 05:58 PM)
Hi there people, Sorry to ask these few questions, but I'm really confused as I'm a first time share investor.

First of all, I am of 20 Years of age, Would I Be able to apply for maxis shares during their IPO?

Secondly, I am a maxis postpaid customer and the account is under my name. What procedure would you recommend for me to apply?

Thirdly, would I need a guarantor as I'm below 21? I'm really not clear of these rules as I'm buying shares for the first time in my life.

Thank you very much.
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1. Yes you are above eligible >18 years old.

2. Maxis pospaid customer entitle you to Blue Form application for 1lot of share (1000 units). Collect the form from Maxis shop, follow the instructions there and then submit the form to Malaysia Issuing House (MIH) in Capsquare.

Please note that you need a CDS account before applying. Contact a stockbroker to open CDS. Also note that once opened, you can still apply for more Maxis IPO shares via the broker (white form application) OR internet banking OR the easiest is using your bank ATM.

3. No.

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QUOTE(accetera @ Nov 2 2009, 06:58 PM)
1. Yes you are above eligible >18 years old.

2. Maxis pospaid customer entitle you to Blue Form application for 1lot of share (1000 units). Collect the form from Maxis shop, follow the instructions there and then submit the form to Malaysia Issuing House (MIH) in Capsquare.

Please note that you need a CDS account before applying. Contact a stockbroker to open CDS. Also note that once opened, you can still apply for more Maxis IPO shares via the broker (white form application) OR internet banking OR the easiest is using your bank ATM. 

3. No.
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Thank you so much for your reply. Alright, so now what I'm missing is a CDS account.

Man, I'm so new in this, I don't even know what a CDS account is. Any guidelines on where to open it ( I live in PJ btw) and how long does it take to open one?
Any charges?

Thanks for your help
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QUOTE(yooyoo @ Nov 2 2009, 01:52 PM)
by the way, when you guys applied via maybank atm, you put your monies in the saving account or in the premier account? both account also ok? i put my monies in premier account and got error..  icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(gunnerstkd @ Nov 2 2009, 06:22 PM)
I've just opened a CDS with kenanga and they have a box for maxis IPO submission..

They told me that the last day to submit the form to them is Wednesday and by then they will send all the applications to Maxis and they say they will guarantee it reaches in time..

cheers..
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I'm thinking of doing the same thing too. Should be safe right?
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QUOTE(tysern @ Nov 2 2009, 07:14 PM)
Thank you so much for your reply. Alright, so now what I'm missing is a CDS account.

Man, I'm so new in this, I don't even know what a CDS account is. Any guidelines on where to open it ( I live in PJ btw) and how long does it take to open one?
Any charges?

Thanks for your help
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i am new too. for CDS u can always contact a broker to open for u. If u dont have any, try cimb or public bank. they do have one too smile.gif
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I read from the Star Kenanga is offering Maxis shares at RM5.20 in 40 to 50 lots without balloting for those who are willing to invest that much money. They will charge a commission of 1 to 2%.
If you have confidence that post IPO, Maxis will be around RM7 to RM10, this is obviously a good option.

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Just got a CDS account through Public bank.
Go personally to Bangunan Public Bank.
Apply for both CDS and Public Investment Account.
CDS account number available in 2 hours after application. Asked the agent to SMS.

Just make sure to specifically ask for a direct CDS account, not nominee.


RM10 fee waived in my case.

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CDS account... i ask the girl at OSK investment.. just go to any investment bank. its like opening a savings account with that investment firm. should receive the no. in 15 mins. After this if you want to trade stocks, need to go through that account. if you are not satisfied with the charges, can open CDS with other investment bank. After that trade through them.
just a newb sharing what he just learn. cheers!
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Can I apply for the Maxis IPO blue form through Maybank Eshare application?
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QUOTE(Oracles99 @ Nov 2 2009, 11:16 PM)
I read from the Star Kenanga is offering Maxis shares at RM5.20 in 40 to 50 lots without balloting for those who are willing to invest that much money. They will charge a commission of 1 to 2%.
If you have confidence that post IPO, Maxis will be around RM7 to RM10, this is obviously a good option.
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fuiyoh! 40-50 lots. such a high investment (mb is normal)- i just cant afford that!


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Can I apply for the Maxis IPO blue form through Maybank Eshare application?
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Nope, u cant!

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Just open my CDS acct at PM Securities in Klang and got it done wihtin 1 hour. I called them 1st to ask if possible settle everythin today and they said no prob, cum over..............

I got Blue Form also but will but few lots using white form
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QUOTE(de.crystal @ Nov 2 2009, 11:40 PM)
fuiyoh!  40-50 lots.  such a high investment (mb is normal)- i just cant afford that!


Added on November 2, 2009, 11:40 pm

Nope, u cant!
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What is the eshare application then? Is this the same as white form?


For the blue form i still need to go to ATM and buy the bank draft and post the blue form???
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What is the eshare application then? Is this the same as white form?
For the blue form i still need to go to ATM and buy the bank draft and post the blue form???
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Blue form can only be done via post with bank draft/cheque etc.

Normal white form for public can be done via online or atm or normal post.
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seem like everyone is rushing eh, can see some of the CDS opening account very fast, but it seem to be taking 1day for CIMB


2 question here

we need to submit to MIH, is it a postbox whereby we can just drop it off ? (even at night) or it must be dropped off in the office.

price will still fluctuate and not confirmed ?
what if the price went up ? how do we top the difference ?

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QUOTE(chris251285 @ Nov 3 2009, 08:16 AM)
seem like everyone is rushing eh, can see some of the CDS opening account very fast, but it seem to be taking 1day for CIMB
2 question here

we need to submit to MIH, is it a postbox whereby we can just drop it off ? (even at night) or it must be dropped off in the office.

price will still fluctuate and not confirmed ?
what if the price went up ? how do we top the difference ?
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Yeah there is an address where you can drop off the application. You can find the add within the form.

Price will either be at max RM5.20 per share or lower. So when we paid the RM5.20 per share, is for the max, if it's lower, they'll refund the difference.
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Hey, anybody using Maybank2u to buy the Maxis IPO?

Sorry, I mean we can apply for it without submitting any other forms in this manner?
And wanted to add that I will be using my Savings Account.

Appreciate any advice on this matter.

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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Nov 3 2009, 10:00 AM)
Yeah there is an address where you can drop off the application. You can find the add within the form.

Price will either be at max RM5.20 per share or lower. So when we paid the RM5.20 per share, is for the max, if it's lower, they'll refund the difference.
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Hi Skidd thanks for the reply smile.gif , yeap i noticed the address , but i wana know if we can drop off the letter during non office hours smile.gif icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(mmusang @ Nov 2 2009, 06:47 PM)
Ooo, u mean premier account for trading?, then it is not valid, u even not able to move it between account.
I just apply IPO from premier account(non-trading, check account) , and it is fine for me.
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ya.. i was not able to apply the IPO when the monies is in the premier account for trading, it is called Premier 1 Account. aftertat, i fax over a form to request to transfer the monies to my saving account then only able to apply for the IPO. your premier account is non-trading account, maybe that's why you can use it to apply for IPO..
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For anyone who might be interested, here's a good read on CDS and its policy.

http://www.klse.com.my/website/bm/bursa_ba...ccessible=false

So far eShare Application (ESA) is supposed to be a paperless way to buy IPOs. But I am not sure if there's anything else we need to know.
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Hope there is light end of the tunnel with Maxis, no doubt its a well managed company and profitable, my concern is the the fund raised would not be used for international maxis investment wonder how will this fund will be diversified to have maximum returns to shareholders, there will so much of cash reserve with maxis and the benefits goes back to the owner of the company, and as mention malaysia is saturated can some smartie provide some input for me please n why do you see its a good buy ,short term and long term expected impact , sorry for 2 cents enquiry
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QUOTE(ferricide @ Nov 3 2009, 10:02 AM)
Hey, anybody using Maybank2u to buy the Maxis IPO?

Sorry, I mean we can apply for it without submitting any other forms in this manner?
And wanted to add that I will be using my Savings Account.

Appreciate any advice on this matter.
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yes, u can apply through maybank2u without submitting forms.
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yes, u can apply through maybank2u without submitting forms.
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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Nov 3 2009, 10:00 AM)
Price will either be at max RM5.20 per share or lower. So when we paid the RM5.20 per share, is for the max, if it's lower, they'll refund the difference.
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The subscription price is RM5.20 per share. On listing, if the price go up, you sell, then you make money. But if the price go below, you sell, then you lose money. Most people will hold on to the shares.
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Target Price : RM5.80 (Subscribe)

We take comparison with leading telecommunication service providers in the country and region to value Maxis. Our universe of comparison, comprise of regional telecommunication players. Some of the notable peers take we believe serve as a benchmark are Digi, SingTel, Tata Communication, Telstra, PCCW and China Communication Services. Taking a PER of 17x against its estimated FY10 numbers Maxis should be valued at RM5.80. With potential total upside of more than 15%, we would recommend a SUBSCRIBE on the IPO. Taking the 75% dividend payout policy as announced, we estimate FY10 dividend would be 25.6sen per share. Our valuation implies a dividend yield of 4.4%. As a comparison, dividend yield of regional stock ranges from 4.7% to 5.9%. Our valuation also implies an FY10 EV/EBITDA level of 9.3x. Average EV/EBITDA for regional companies is 7.43x. (Note: SingTel is valued at 11.16x, TATA Communication at 10.67x)


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QUOTE(chris251285 @ Nov 3 2009, 10:09 AM)
Hi Skidd thanks for the reply smile.gif , yeap i noticed the address , but i wana know if we can drop off the letter during non office hours smile.gif  icon_idea.gif
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I think they will keep those boxes after a certain time after office hours. IF not, then people will go and steal the box full of application forms.
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I've checked maybank2u, u can't do it online.

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I've checked maybank2u, u can't do it online.
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Mine works so far, so maybe you might be using a wrong way of doing it?
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I've checked maybank2u, u can't do it online.
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So far never have problem on that, how you do it?
Blue form?
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My sister will submit the blue form(she apply on behalf of me coz she got blue form). Can I bought the bank draft for her to apply the IPO?

If the application failed, how they refund the money to me? Another bank draft with my sister name? Or return the original bank draft that I bought?
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QUOTE(HappyGuy @ Nov 3 2009, 12:02 PM)
My sister will submit the blue form(she apply on behalf of me coz she got blue form). Can I bought the bank draft for her to apply the IPO?

If the application failed, how they refund the money to me? Another bank draft with my sister name? Or return the original bank draft that I bought?
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If partially allocated, they will send you cheque; if not allotted at all (failed), they return the bank draft.
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QUOTE(HappyGuy @ Nov 3 2009, 12:02 PM)
My sister will submit the blue form(she apply on behalf of me coz she got blue form). Can I bought the bank draft for her to apply the IPO?

If the application failed, how they refund the money to me? Another bank draft with my sister name? Or return the original bank draft that I bought?
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Just a reminder - you also need a CDS account under your name for your application to be successful. GL!
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QUOTE(lonewolf @ Oct 29 2009, 11:06 PM)
the envelop A and B, the address need to be same with your IC. but my IC address is back is penang, while i am staying now in KL. so which address am i suppose to write?
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Use the address as per your IC. It was mentioned very clearly at the back of the application form.



QUOTE(elvoius88 @ Oct 30 2009, 09:04 AM)
mine is in penang sad.gif..lucky u
anyway if i post it out on tuesday do u guys think the form will able 2 reach them by thursday???
my dad will only be back from overseas on monday  shakehead.gif
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You can't make it. Use courier service instead. No need to paste the 50cts stamp on the envelop (B). Just put (A) into (B). No need to seal (B) because the courier people will have to throw away the (B) and drop the (A) into the Drop-in-boxes anyway.


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QUOTE(HappyGuy @ Nov 3 2009, 12:02 PM)
My sister will submit the blue form(she apply on behalf of me coz she got blue form). Can I bought the bank draft for her to apply the IPO?

If the application failed, how they refund the money to me? Another bank draft with my sister name? Or return the original bank draft that I bought?
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Of course you can. If unsuccessful, MIH return the original bank draft to you as per address given in the application.

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QUOTE(metalfreak @ Nov 3 2009, 11:10 AM)
I've checked maybank2u, u can't do it online.
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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Nov 3 2009, 12:50 PM)
Use the address as per your IC. It was mentioned very clearly at the back of the application form.
You can't make it. Use courier service instead. No need to paste the 50cts stamp on the envelop (B). Just put (A) into (B). No need to seal (B) because the courier people will have to throw away the (B) and drop the (A) into the Drop-in-boxes anyway.
aiya.. didn't read properly, I put current address, now have to get another envelop.

I've a multiple of 30sen stamps.. so.. each envelop will be 60sen.. I think that is ok kua?

I thought both envelops must be sealed as written in the back of those envelopes?

THanks.

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bought using banker's cheque thru CIMB, who refused to issue me a bank's draft saying that it is the same.

what do u guys think?
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I have been MAXIS customer for more than 10 years..... but not getting the blue form....

Is the following eligibility check official?
https://dealernet.maxis.com.my/S/maxisipo/e...ility_check.asp

Wondering what is the criteria for selection.
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QUOTE(HelloMalaysia @ Nov 3 2009, 02:47 PM)
I have been MAXIS customer for more than 10 years.....  but not getting the blue form....

Is the following eligibility check official? 
https://dealernet.maxis.com.my/S/maxisipo/e...ility_check.asp

Wondering what is the criteria for selection.
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Are you late payment for your bills very frequent? I think they select customer who make fast payment for their monthly bills.
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bought using banker's cheque thru CIMB, who refused to issue me a bank's draft saying that it is the same.

what do u guys think?
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It's the same I think, I used that for rights application and no problem.
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QUOTE(cucubud @ Nov 3 2009, 11:08 AM)
I think they will keep those boxes after a certain time after office hours.  IF not, then people will go and steal the box full of application forms.
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lol, i really dont hope so mate ...

i'm hoping its those built in postboxes to the wall smile.gif

but willl anyone able to confirm this ?
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besides, de-listing & re-listing again, the market being so saturated already do u all think Maxis shares still got good growing chances ?
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yes, u can apply through maybank2u without submitting forms.
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How abt CIMBClicks?
I am planning to buy via internet(eIPO), do i still need to submit the application form or attach anykind of payment statement?
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maxis blue form eligible how much eh? rm5.20 like maybank too?
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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Nov 3 2009, 12:50 PM)


Of course you can. If unsuccessful, MIH return the original bank draft to you as per address given in the application.
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i confirm...built in postbox just behind alliance bank tower..capsquare building..should be quite safe..sharing with 2 others IPO boxes as well..
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i confirm...built in postbox just behind alliance bank tower..capsquare building..should be quite safe..sharing with 2 others IPO boxes as well..
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i seeeee , just dump into the box can edy lah ?
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i confirm...built in postbox just behind alliance bank tower..capsquare building..should be quite safe..sharing with 2 others IPO boxes as well..
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i applied cds account at TA today, very messy, not systematic. took me almost 2 hours there.
went to maybank ampang park, the bankdraft out of stock. went to klcc maybank, finally got my banker's cheque in an hour time rclxub.gif
whole process took me almost 4 hours... flex.gif

so really no time to go submit the form as rushing back to office. where is capsquare ?? can drive through and drop off during non office ?
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Are you late payment for your bills very frequent? I think they select customer who make fast payment for their monthly bills.
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I don't think so, I am master payer... using auto-payment every month via credit card. Is that because of monthly spending? I am spending average RM150/month.
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I don't think so, I am master payer...  using auto-payment every month via credit card.  Is that because of monthly spending?  I am spending average RM150/month.
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I spend less than 100 per month and using auto payment every month via credit card. i got the blue form. really dont know how they pick..
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I would like to ask if my application is unsuccessful, they will mail back the bank draft/cheque to me right? Then how can I get back the amount in the bank draft/cheque? Just go back to the issuing bank and cancel it?

What if there is a situation where I didn't get the bank draft/cheque from them?
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I don't think so, I am master payer...  using auto-payment every month via credit card.   Is that because of monthly spending?  I am spending average RM150/month.
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Is your number registered under corporate plan?
If under corporate plan, you don't get the blue form.

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QUOTE(deathclaw @ Nov 3 2009, 04:55 PM)
I would like to ask if my application is unsuccessful, they will mail back the bank draft/cheque to me right? Then how can I get back the amount in the bank draft/cheque? Just go back to the issuing bank and cancel it?

What if there is a situation where I didn't get the bank draft/cheque from them?
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Use the draft application form, just a bit more tedious only.
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Use the draft application form, just a bit more tedious only.
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htt, you mean bring the draft application form to the bank to do the cancellation?
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htt, you mean bring the draft application form to the bank to do the cancellation?
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Is your number registered under corporate plan?
If under corporate plan, you don't get the blue form.
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Hi, you seems to know the in and out. I have checked with MAXIS and my line is with "Corporate Individual" and according to customer service, it should be no problem for me. I fulfill the criteria, but not able to explain why I am not getting. mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif

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All my friends numbers with Corporate plan did not get the blue form. So, most likely those under Corporate are not eligible.
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QUOTE(deathclaw @ Nov 3 2009, 04:55 PM)
I would like to ask if my application is unsuccessful, they will mail back the bank draft/cheque to me right? Then how can I get back the amount in the bank draft/cheque? Just go back to the issuing bank and cancel it?

What if there is a situation where I didn't get the bank draft/cheque from them?
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I have not try IPO before. But previously when I appy for right issue, they return the balance to me via cheque with my name on it.
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Use the draft application form, just a bit more tedious only.
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i suppose we could also use the application form used to purchase the bank draft. Else your name would have already been stated behind the draft.


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All my friends numbers with Corporate plan did not get the blue form.  So, most likely those under Corporate are not eligible.
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i suppose because the phone bill is not paid directly by them and by the company, instead and hence, illegible.

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do u think its possible to get shares on maxis at 5.30 the day it gets listed? lol. or anything below 5.50?
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QUOTE(gunnerstkd @ Nov 3 2009, 02:04 PM)
aiya.. didn't read properly, I put current address, now have to get another envelop.

I've a multiple of 30sen stamps.. so.. each envelop will be 60sen.. I think that is ok kua?

I thought both envelops must be sealed as written in the back of those envelopes?

THanks.
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you suppose to put your current address on the form. I called MIH to reconfirm this. They said the address u wrote, is the address that they going to return to you if your application fails.
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do u think its possible to get shares on maxis at 5.30 the day it gets listed? lol. or anything below 5.50?
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where to get the envelope B ? if drop at the box, require envelope B also?
my friend just passed me env A
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If drop in the box, no need envelope B.
IF you send by post, then only need envelope B.
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Hope there is light end of the tunnel with Maxis, no doubt its a well managed company and profitable, my concern is the the fund raised would not be used for international maxis investment wonder how will this fund will be diversified to have maximum returns to shareholders, there will so much of cash reserve with maxis and the benefits goes back to the owner of the company, and as mention malaysia is saturated can some smartie provide some input for me please n why do you see its a good buy ,short term and long term expected impact , sorry for 2 cents enquiry
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The IPO proceeds will not go to Maxis but to the offerers of the shares, AK n others.

As I said earlier, post IPO Maxis will be heavily in debt to the tune of RM5 billion, experience little growth and slowly losing market share. It will have to upgrade its infrastructure substantially to capture the broadband market share as its broadband services are far from satisfactory. It will face stiff competition from Telekom which will roll out HSB in the Klang valley next year.

However, its saving grace is that it will be included as one of the component stocks of the Composite Index.

Investors, most probably will not make a loss but will make a small profit. So no harm applying.

It is probably a stock for the long term.
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Sorry, need to confirm from you guys again coz cant reach the MIH help line.

My sister will submit the blue form(she apply on behalf of me coz she got blue form). Can I buy the bank draft for her to apply the IPO? Will my name printed on the bank draft?

Thanks.
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Yes, you can buy the bank draft and she use it to apply under her name.
No, your name will not be printed on the bank draft.
She has to write her name and address on the back of the bank draft.
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QUOTE(cucubud @ Nov 3 2009, 11:01 PM)
Yes, you can buy the bank draft and she use it to apply under her name.
No, your name will not be printed on the bank draft.
She has to write her name and address on the back of the bank draft.
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Thanks!

If I failed to get any unit, which bank draft returned, I know can cancel the bank draft but will it any problem if she wrote her name at the back of bank draft?
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I think someone should open a topic for applying IPO .. lot of newbies here ..
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i am new too. maxis ipo is technically my first investment. wish me luck !!!
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Just submitted my form 30 minutes ago..

Man.. people are queuing to submit..
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Just submitted my form 30 minutes ago..

Man.. people are queuing to submit..
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How you submit? Why need to queue?
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I will be handling my share application through the atm/internet banking.

Another one of my friend would be using the white form. Good luck to everyone in the application process.

Let's hope everyone get what they want, shall we? smile.gif

Oh and yes, thanks to everyone who helped me out regarding my earlier questions.

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hi..

I've finally submitted the form.. anyway.. I've opened a CDS account.. I've yet to open the trading account but the investment back actually just throw me a remisier card and asked me to contact that guy when i fill up the trading form..

So, I would need to open a trading account with that investment bank for selling the shares, right?.. will the remisier takes some kinda commission from the sales of the shares from me in the future?
Anyway to minimize this impact?

Sorry for the newbie question .. sad.gif

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QUOTE(gunnerstkd @ Nov 4 2009, 01:08 AM)
hi..

I've finally submitted the form.. anyway.. I've opened a CDS account.. I've yet to open the trading account but the investment back actually just throw me a remisier card and asked me to contact that guy when i fill up the trading form..

So, I would need to open a trading account with that investment bank for selling the shares, right?.. will the remisier takes some kinda commission from the sales of the shares from me in the future?
Anyway to minimize this impact?

Sorry for the newbie question .. sad.gif
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Think you go to the beginners question tread, something was there regarding this.
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QUOTE(HappyGuy @ Nov 3 2009, 11:21 PM)
Thanks!

If I failed to get any unit, which bank draft returned, I know can cancel the bank draft but will it any problem if she wrote her name at the back of bank draft?
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If you failed to get any unit, the envelope A will be sent back to you unopen. Please make sure that you filled up envelope A with the correct address and has a 50 sen stamp there. That will be the bank draft you purchased from the bank. Just show the bank the draft and the purchasing slip to claim back your money.
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question, If i already have a CDS account and apply for Maxis IPO via maybank2u, will i still need to submit any documentation(white form..etc)?

I'm applying as a Malaysian Citizen, not Maxis customer.

tq in advance
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If you failed to get any unit, the envelope A will be sent back to you unopen. Please make sure that you filled up envelope A with the correct address and has a 50 sen stamp there.  That will be the bank draft you purchased from the bank.  Just show the bank the draft and the purchasing slip to claim back your money.
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Thanks. You are right, I get the same answer from Maybank staff.

For those want to drop in the envelope A at capital square, you can drive in there directly, got people stand by there to collect the form from you. no need parking.
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QUOTE(tineagle @ Nov 4 2009, 11:12 AM)
question, If i already have a CDS account and apply for Maxis IPO via maybank2u, will i still need to submit any documentation(white form..etc)?

I'm applying as a Malaysian Citizen, not Maxis customer.

tq in advance
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No need to submit the white form anymore. That's the beauty of online application.
But if you submit both, and they found out, you will be disqualified.

For Maxis, you are allowed to submit a Blue form (if you qualify for one) and a White form.
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Hi, the address written behind envelop has to be the same as our IC address?

where else can we go to drop the envelope besides capital?

can we issue cheque instead of bankdraft?

thanks!!


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QUOTE(HappyGuy @ Nov 3 2009, 10:54 PM)
Sorry, need to confirm from you guys again coz cant reach the MIH help line.

My sister will submit the blue form(she apply on behalf of me coz she got blue form). Can I buy the bank draft for her to apply the IPO? Will my name printed on the bank draft?

Thanks.
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other ppl can apply on ur behalf? u are the maxis customer rite? but ur sister got the cds account and she can apply for u? under her name?

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Hi, the address written behind envelop has to be the same as our IC address?

where else can we go to drop the envelope besides capital?

can we issue cheque instead of bankdraft?

thanks!!
There are 3 ways to submit the application.
1. Drop the envelope A at Capital Square.
2. Put envelope A into envelope B and post it.
3. Usually Trading firms will have collection point to help their customers. You can drop the application form there as well. Usually their collection time is earlier so that they can send it in one trip.
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Ahem ...is the 'blue' form really supposed to be blue in colour ah ???!!!!!
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My BF have CDS account (under his name, can i transfer the money by my Maybank account to his CDS account (not from maybank, from other financial institution) to apply for the MAXIS IPO? Please advice...Cos some people told me cannot some told me can...
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Yes 'blue' form is in Blue color
also the envelop write in Blue with white background.

Whilte form is white color
envelop write in Black with white background

QUOTE(overthemoon @ Nov 4 2009, 01:31 PM)
Ahem ...is the 'blue' form really supposed to be blue in colour ah ???!!!!!
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Added on November 4, 2009, 2:35 pmMeaning u buy Maxis using ur bf name with ur bf account lo.

then saying the money is belong to your bf
Maxis share belongs to ur bf's

officially, u got nothing lo..

QUOTE(QiaoEr @ Nov 4 2009, 01:32 PM)
My BF have CDS account (under his name, can i transfer the money by my Maybank account to his CDS account (not from maybank, from other financial institution) to apply for the MAXIS IPO? Please advice...Cos some people told me cannot some told me can...
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Hi, i have premier 1 account which i used to trade stock all the while. Is this account CDS account? Can i use this account to apply for Maxis IPO?
If cannot, how can i get a CDS account? How long will it take? Will i have enough time to apply for Maxis IPO?
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QUOTE(truth_seeker_09 @ Nov 4 2009, 02:31 PM)
Yes 'blue' form is in Blue color
also the envelop write in Blue with white background.

Whilte form is white color
envelop write in Black with white background

Added on November 4, 2009, 2:35 pmMeaning u buy Maxis using ur bf name with ur bf account lo.

then saying the money is belong to your bf
Maxis share belongs to ur bf's

officially, u got nothing lo..
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Yes, it is under his name, but the question here is, can i transfer the money in my savings account to his CDS account?
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Hi, i have premier 1 account which i used to trade stock all the while. Is this account CDS account? Can i use this account to apply for Maxis IPO?
If cannot, how can i get a CDS account? How long will it take? Will i have enough time to apply for Maxis IPO?
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Not sure about your premier 1 account. It's not too late yet to apply. You can open a CDS account and have the account number in less than 1 hour (Kenanga). The other that I have inquired, OSK, got to wait for 1 full day.
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QUOTE(RDPD @ Nov 4 2009, 02:38 PM)
Hi, i have premier 1 account which i used to trade stock all the while. Is this account CDS account? Can i use this account to apply for Maxis IPO?
If cannot, how can i get a CDS account? How long will it take? Will i have enough time to apply for Maxis IPO?
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No, I dont think so.
premier account is for trading, not CDS. CDS # is need for them to put the shares into CDS account.
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at last I submitted the blue form at Multi Purpose building. I took LRT to Dang Wangi station and walk towards the building. When sampai, Saw many peoples drive thru the back of the building to submit.
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QUOTE(QiaoEr @ Nov 4 2009, 02:40 PM)
Yes, it is under his name, but the question here is, can i transfer the money in my savings account to his CDS account?
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CDS account does not contain money. It only contain shares.
You can buy the bank draft and give it to your bf to apply the shares under his name.
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QUOTE(tysern @ Nov 2 2009, 07:14 PM)
Thank you so much for your reply. Alright, so now what I'm missing is a CDS account.

Man, I'm so new in this, I don't even know what a CDS account is. Any guidelines on where to open it ( I live in PJ btw) and how long does it take to open one?
Any charges?

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Any stockbroking firm. For example OSK Investment Bank in SS2 or Mohaiyani Securities in Damansara Uptown or TA Securities in Subang Jaya.

The complete list is available at http://www.klse.com.my/website/bm/brokers/...kers_alpha.html

Tip: Jusk ask around for recommendation of broker. In fact, if you go to the bank, if the officer is helpful he will recommend one for you too.

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QUOTE(jys @ Nov 4 2009, 12:00 PM)
Hi, the address written behind envelop has to be the same as our IC address?

where else can we go to drop the envelope besides capital?

can we issue cheque instead of bankdraft?

thanks!!


Added on November 4, 2009, 12:03 pm

other ppl can apply on ur behalf? u are the maxis customer rite? but ur sister got the cds account and she can apply for u? under her name?
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Nope. She is maxis customer, thats why she got the blue form. So she have to open CDS account. I just pay money and submit the form. All under her name.
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QUOTE(cucubud @ Nov 4 2009, 12:00 PM)
No need to submit the white form anymore.  That's the beauty of online application.
But if you submit both, and they found out, you will be disqualified.

For Maxis, you are allowed to submit a Blue form (if you qualify for one) and a White form.
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thank you

btw, for those of u planning to make a CDS account tomorrow, expect a REALLY long queue.

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Got my CDS account number earlier this afternoon, and complete the application through maybank2u.

Everything went on smoothly, thanks for all the help from you guys!

And yea btw, it took me one day (almost 24 hours) to get my CDS number. If you're gonna apply tomorrow, I don't think they can process it in time for you, unless you keep on hogging them, then maybe.
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Why everyone are using bank draft to make the payment? Is there anyone who used ATM > Share Application > MIH 475/Maxis to make the payment and attach the ATM statement together with the application forms?

For those who made payment using ATM, how are you going to get the "refund" if you don't get the shares?

Thanks
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QUOTE(RDPD @ Nov 4 2009, 02:38 PM)
Hi, i have premier 1 account which i used to trade stock all the while. Is this account CDS account? Can i use this account to apply for Maxis IPO?
If cannot, how can i get a CDS account? How long will it take? Will i have enough time to apply for Maxis IPO?
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Stocks trading account must go hand in hand with a CDS account. If you can trade stock then you should have a CDS account. You never received CDS statement from Bursa Malaysia Depository S/B ?
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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Nov 4 2009, 10:59 PM)
Stocks trading account must go hand in hand with a CDS account.  If you can trade stock then you should have a CDS account. You never received CDS statement from Bursa Malaysia Depository S/B ?
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seems like maybank premier a/c is different. the stock is own by maybank in our behalf or something like that...im sure someone knows clearly about this

my a/c with TA i received cds statement from Bursa but not with maybank
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QUOTE(tysern @ Nov 4 2009, 07:28 PM)
Got my CDS account number earlier this afternoon, and complete the application through maybank2u.

Everything went on smoothly, thanks for all the help from you guys!

And yea btw, it took me one day (almost 24 hours) to get my CDS number. If you're gonna apply tomorrow, I don't think they can process it in time for you, unless you keep on hogging them, then maybe.
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I thought you are a Maxis postpaid user? Did you get the Blue form?
If you apply via Maybank2U, that means you are applying under the White form category.
For Blue form application, you need to use the Bank Draft method and fill up the Blue form.
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QUOTE(Si|enCer @ Nov 4 2009, 09:39 PM)
Why everyone are using bank draft to make the payment? Is there anyone who used ATM > Share Application > MIH 475/Maxis to make the payment and attach the ATM statement together with the application forms?

For those who made payment using ATM, how are you going to get the "refund" if you don't get the shares?

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I did. I called up MIH, they mentioned that balloting date is 9/11, so give them couple of days then call them regarding your application status. If yours are selected, they will call you to inform. If unsuccessful, you need to check your status by calling or online. They will send back your sealed envelope & you take the statement to the back for refund.
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QUOTE(vreis @ Nov 5 2009, 10:09 AM)
I If yours are selected, they will call you to inform. If unsuccessful, you need to check your status by calling or online. They will send back your sealed envelope & you take the statement to the back for refund.
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I doubt they will call up the successful applicants. There are simply too many to call and they wouldnt be bothered. smile.gif
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I doubt they will call up the successful applicants. There are simply too many to call and they wouldnt be bothered. smile.gif
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Yeah I thought so. Just try to call them by end of next week, whether successful or not. So no need to wonder no more.
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There is a link in MIH webpage to check for IPO Results Enquiry, but I'm not sure how accurate and updated it is. Maybe can give it a try after the balloting date.

http://www.mih.com.my/enquiry.php
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QUOTE(deathclaw @ Nov 5 2009, 11:26 AM)
There is a link in MIH webpage to check for IPO Results Enquiry, but I'm not sure how accurate and updated it is. Maybe can give it a try after the balloting date.

http://www.mih.com.my/enquiry.php
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The website is normally slow, e.g. Sinaria's result wasn't out yet where already ballot 2 days ago, unsuccessful applicant already get their money back into their bank account liao (not for physical white form, but ATM & internet banking).
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Today last day for submission..5pm timeline.
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Done and dusted. Fingers crossed now.
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How high can it go, does anybody know? I'm thinking of last minute application..
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If you choose to apply with ur bf investment bank eipo service (eg. cimb)
then you can transfer money there for application (hope i am correct)

or u use ur bf maybank account then transfer $ to his bank account then he will use ATM/Maybank2u service to apply.

If you are using Blue Form. you got no choice.. go buy bank draft and sent to MIH.

QUOTE(QiaoEr @ Nov 4 2009, 02:40 PM)
Yes, it is under his name, but the question here is, can i transfer the money in my savings account to his CDS account?
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Added on November 5, 2009, 2:05 pmread some report paper.. saying could have 15-20% higher? no one knows.


QUOTE(manchild @ Nov 5 2009, 01:47 PM)
How high can it go, does anybody know? I'm thinking of last minute application..
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Added on November 5, 2009, 2:06 pmok... less than 3 hrs before closing...

This post has been edited by truth_seeker_09: Nov 5 2009, 02:06 PM
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QUOTE(truth_seeker_09 @ Nov 5 2009, 02:04 PM)
If you choose to apply with ur bf investment bank eipo service (eg. cimb)
then you can transfer money there for application (hope i am correct)

or u use ur bf maybank account then transfer $ to his bank account then he will use ATM/Maybank2u service to apply.

If you are using Blue Form. you got no choice.. go buy bank draft and sent to MIH.

Added on November 5, 2009, 2:05 pmread some report paper.. saying could have 15-20% higher? no one knows.

Added on November 5, 2009, 2:06 pmok... less than 3 hrs before closing...
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I checked dy....if i am using online transfer, can only transfer the money to own CDS account...means both savings account and CDS account have to under the same person...no choice but ask my bf to open an account in Maybank...and it's done! Hehehe...
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Question, I have a CDS account but it's been dormant for a long while, can I still use the no.? My remiser used to be in TA but I don't know what happened to him already, but what I do know is TA asked me to fill a form to activate my account because I still have money in there. So, please help..
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Just got back from Multi Purpose Tower. The situation is very tense there. Massive jams caz of ppl getting down n dropping their envelope in.

2 hours to closing time. 5pm 5 Nov 2009.

A precaution. DO NOT DRIVE TO THE BUILDING. GET OFF AT BUKIT NENAS MONORAIL OR DANG WANGI LRT STATION. IT IS WALKING DISTANCE TO THE BUILDING.

There are multiple checkpoints and drive thru to deposit the envelope all over the ground zero. There are booths to drop off all over the place also.

DO NOT DRIVE THERE AND DO NOT GET ANYWHERE NEAR CAPSQUARE.
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i think you can only do what that TA guys asked.

QUOTE(manchild @ Nov 5 2009, 02:21 PM)
Question, I have a CDS account but it's been dormant for a long while, can I still use the no.? My remiser used to be in TA but I don't know what happened to him already, but what I do know is TA asked me to fill a form to activate my account because I still have money in there. So, please help..
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Added on November 5, 2009, 3:09 pmhaha.. Bus 11 is the best.

QUOTE(sokdotcom @ Nov 5 2009, 02:46 PM)
Just got back from Multi Purpose Tower. The situation is very tense there. Massive jams caz of ppl getting down n dropping their envelope in.

2 hours to closing time. 5pm 5 Nov 2009.

A precaution. DO NOT DRIVE TO THE BUILDING. GET OFF AT BUKIT NENAS MONORAIL OR DANG WANGI LRT STATION. IT IS WALKING DISTANCE TO THE BUILDING.

There are multiple checkpoints and drive thru to deposit the envelope all over the ground zero. There are booths to drop off all over the place also.

DO NOT DRIVE THERE AND DO NOT GET ANYWHERE NEAR CAPSQUARE.
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40 mins to go....
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Good luck everyone .. I got feeling it will go up to RM8 within this remaining year.. .

We should know by next week if u got the ipo or not. Just hope no postman coming to your house ..


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Crazy. I wonder how many times it would be oversubscribed.
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times up. Good luck to all who apply.
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i... drop the application form by 5.13pm...
do u guys thing still possible to get it?
i actually went out to 27th floor and the ppl ask me to go down.. WTF...
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finally, the application is over. this had me running all over the place for 3 damn days. fingers crossed now, and I hope its good news. G luck to everyone
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QUOTE(tysern @ Nov 5 2009, 08:32 PM)
finally, the application is over. this had me running all over the place for 3 damn days. fingers crossed now, and I hope its good news. G luck to everyone
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Wat a massive jam at the building+many places are jam also today.Saw many ppl summiting the forms,some with atleast 10 envolope at 1 time.Using family/friends name to apply i think.Lucky manage to drop it in about 3pm.Hopefully good news next week for everyone!I applying with blue form,my remiser said the chances are higher because they will draw it 2 times instead of 1 times when applying with white forms,dont really understand it.
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really quite jam when iwent there at 4 , 1st time purchasing it and is amazed that they can have a drive through to have it passed to the ppl there

** still thinking did that guy help me put into the box , or he threw it away tongue.gif
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when is the ballot day ar? quite stupid rite this question?
fingers crossed.
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The Blue form and the Blue envelop never mention anything about the need to attach a copy of the Maxis bill.
I wonder if MIH will accept blue form application from those who overlooked this requirement.
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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Nov 5 2009, 11:44 PM)
The Blue form and the Blue envelop never mention anything about the need to attach a copy of the Maxis bill.
I wonder if MIH will accept blue form application from those who overlooked this requirement.
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The blue envelop never mention, but it is written behind the blue form no. 13 or 14.

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Anyway good luck to everyone.

And let's hope we all get a piece of the action. ^^
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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Nov 5 2009, 11:44 PM)
The Blue form and the Blue envelop never mention anything about the need to attach a copy of the Maxis bill.
I wonder if MIH will accept blue form application from those who overlooked this requirement.
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It is mentioned in item no. 14 (if I am not mistaken).
If never submit Maxis bill, your application will be disqualified.

They will disqualify your application if:
1. You use liquid paper to make changes in the form.
2. Your photostat IC is not clear.
3. You never write your name and address at the back of the bank draft.
4. You fill up the form in small letters.
5. You use RED ink to fill up the form.

and many others.......
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QUOTE(cucubud @ Nov 6 2009, 09:34 AM)
It is mentioned in item no. 14 (if I am not mistaken).
If never submit Maxis bill, your application will be disqualified.

They will disqualify your application if:
1. You use liquid paper to make changes in the form.
2. Your photostat IC is not clear.
3. You never write your name and address at the back of the bank draft.
4. You fill up the form in small letters.
5. You use RED ink to fill up the form.

and many others.......
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OMG so many restriction , "Fingers Crossing really HARD"
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QUOTE(cucubud @ Nov 6 2009, 09:34 AM)
It is mentioned in item no. 14 (if I am not mistaken).
If never submit Maxis bill, your application will be disqualified.

They will disqualify your application if:
1. You use liquid paper to make changes in the form.
2. Your photostat IC is not clear.
3. You never write your name and address at the back of the bank draft.
4. You fill up the form in small letters.
5. You use RED ink to fill up the form.

and many others.......
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Correct Correct Correct ..

I guess lot of people overlooked and I am happy .. hahaha

And also I believe lots of people forget to sign .. well i guess the form is too messy and blue color ..

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it is effort to read the fine print.
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QUOTE(MoonRider @ Nov 6 2009, 11:15 AM)
Correct Correct Correct ..

I guess lot of people overlooked and I am happy .. hahaha

And also I believe lots of people forget to sign .. well i guess the form is too messy and blue color ..
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i think i really didn't sign .. dammit .. where's that ?
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RM 5.20 right?
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i didnt write the name and the address at the back of bankdraft..how ar ?
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i didnt write the name and the address at the back of bankdraft..how ar ?
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That one ok, I think.
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That one ok, I think.
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notworthy.gif pheeewww..scary man.

i actually submitting few applications using family members name and the bank draft are bought by my money, thats y dint put in the name and address..afraid confused the ppl there mah.. doh.gif
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QUOTE(YannYann @ Nov 6 2009, 03:31 PM)
notworthy.gif pheeewww..scary man.

i actually submitting few applications using family members name and the bank draft are bought by my money, thats y dint put in the name and address..afraid confused the ppl there mah.. doh.gif
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I think you have better chance buying big lots using 1 form than submitting few 1 lot form.
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QUOTE(fyseng @ Nov 6 2009, 04:35 PM)
I think you have better chance buying big lots using 1 form than submitting few 1 lot form.
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Why ? Mind to share?
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QUOTE(fyseng @ Nov 6 2009, 03:35 PM)
I think you have better chance buying big lots using 1 form than submitting few 1 lot form.
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Becoz im using blue form from family members wor..have to submit few application lohh drool.gif

blue form higher chances mah, rite ? rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
and i also got submit using white form la.. rclxm9.gif

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QUOTE(YannYann @ Nov 6 2009, 03:38 PM)
Becoz im using blue form from family members wor..have to submit few application lohh  drool.gif

blue form higher chances mah, rite ?  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
and i also got submit using white form la.. rclxm9.gif
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Why ? Mind to share?

You are in different ballot box. Coz bigger lots less competition and better chance. I remember during Maxis IPO at 2002 I submit for 11 lots and they gave me 6 lots. I am not buying this time, abit expensive for me, will get it in open market when the price is cheaper.
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QUOTE(fyseng @ Nov 6 2009, 04:46 PM)
Good luck anyway tongue.gif
You are in different ballot box. Coz bigger lots less competition and better chance. I remember during Maxis IPO at 2002 I submit for 11 lots and they gave me 6 lots. I am not buying this time, abit expensive for me, will get it in open market when the price is cheaper.
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Ic. For the valuation part i agree with you. I want to buy at RM 4.00 if can tongue.gif
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QUOTE(fyseng @ Nov 6 2009, 03:46 PM)
Good luck anyway tongue.gif
You are in different ballot box. Coz bigger lots less competition and better chance. I remember during Maxis IPO at 2002 I submit for 11 lots and they gave me 6 lots. I am not buying this time, abit expensive for me, will get it in open market when the price is cheaper.
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the bold sounded like want the price to drop sad.gif ...

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QUOTE(YannYann @ Nov 6 2009, 03:31 PM)
notworthy.gif pheeewww..scary man.

i actually submitting few applications using family members name and the bank draft are bought by my money, thats y dint put in the name and address..afraid confused the ppl there mah.. doh.gif
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sorry to say , u may be disqualified. I believe you need to write the name and address behind the bank draft.

Reason because we need to write the name and addreess,
this is to ensure the bank draft is belong to you.

and they have reason to disqualify u and it already mentioned item the form as well on the evenlope , wonder how can u miss that ..

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QUOTE(MoonRider @ Nov 6 2009, 04:55 PM)
sorry to say , u may be disqualified. I believe you need to write the name and address behind the bank draft.

Reason because we need to write the name and addreess,
this is to ensure the bank draft is belong to you.

and they have reason to disqualify u and it already mentioned item the form as well on the evenlope , wonder how can u miss that ..
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OH NOTTTTT !!! vmad.gif Im gonna knock my husband head tonite.. (he is the one who fill up everything for me) doh.gif doh.gif
Darkmage12
post Nov 6 2009, 07:10 PM

shhhhhhhhh come i tell you something hehe
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I applied using cimbclicks won't have any problem with those forms right?
oks911
post Nov 6 2009, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(MoonRider @ Nov 6 2009, 04:55 PM)
sorry to say , u may be disqualified. I believe you need to write the name and address behind the bank draft.

Reason because we need to write the name and addreess,
this is to ensure the bank draft is belong to you.

and they have reason to disqualify u and it already mentioned item the form as well on the evenlope , wonder how can u miss that ..
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OMG!! I also forgot to fill up the name and address behind the banker cheque... sei lorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr............... pray hard now!
de.crystal
post Nov 6 2009, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(oks911 @ Nov 6 2009, 07:41 PM)
OMG!! I also forgot to fill up the name and address behind the banker cheque... sei lorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr............... pray hard now!
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can i suggest u to immediately cancel ur cheque before anyone used that for other purposes?


Added on November 6, 2009, 10:45 pm
QUOTE(cucubud @ Nov 6 2009, 09:34 AM)
It is mentioned in item no. 14 (if I am not mistaken).
If never submit Maxis bill, your application will be disqualified.

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i didnt notice this. however was informed by the personnel.


This post has been edited by de.crystal: Nov 6 2009, 10:45 PM

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