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post Jun 22 2009, 01:16 AM, updated 17y ago

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Please continue reporting your experience with the OS3.0 in this thread, and this thread will also be the review thread for the iPhone 3G[S]/AifonTriJiEs once I have procured mine. Also, anyone with an iPhone 3G[S], you are most welcomed to post your thoughts, impressions and reviews here.

Forward, march!

NEW INFO!


For those keeping tab on the iPhone 3G[S] scene, some good news. Remember this link? Before this it shows which country provides unlocked iPhones based on their carriers. Now, it has been updated to include columns on which carrier provides MMS and Internet Tethering as well. I would presume, since these two new columns marks as new updates, the state of "which carrier/country provides unlocked iPhones" are also updated as well, and the list is now updated to include the state of unlocks for the 3G[S] as well.

If that is the case, these following countries are the countries are currently still providing unlocked iPhones to their customers, and presumably the same state of unlocks for the upcoming 3G[S]:-

Countries with officially unlocked iPhone 3G, and therefore presumably, the iPhone 3G[S]

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Belgium(Mobistar), Czech Republic(O2, T-Mobile, Vodafone), Greece(Vodafone, Cosmote), Italy(TIM, Vodafone), Luxembourg (Vox, LUXGSM), Russia(Megafon, MTS, Beeline), Turkey(Turkcell), Hong Kong(3), Macau(3), Malaysia(Maxis), New Zealand(Vodafone), Singapore(SingTel), Taiwan(Chunghwa Telecom), Thailand(Truecom), Saudi Arabia(Mobily), UAE(Etisalat), South Africa(Vodacom)


There are a list of countries whose carrier provides official unlocks for their iPhones even though the initial state of the iPhone is locked, but I wont bother posting those. The process of these unlocks REQUIRES the presence of these iPhones to be within the country which provides these unlocks, and such logistics and planning can throw a lot of the planning off. My targets are the iPhones from countries above because they are more than likely, because of their law, REQUIRES their iPhones to remain unlocked officially.

Among the countries listed above, here are their release dates:-

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Italy - June 19th


Second Wave
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Belgium - June 26th


Third Wave Confirmed
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New Zealand, Hong Kong, Singapore - July 10th


Third Wave
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Czech Republic, Luxembourg, Malaysia, South Africa - July 2009


The rest are on the Fourth Wave which is in August 2009.


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I think IIANM, it has been stated that the new unlock will disable Youtube, so it is a toss-up between wanting the new features of 3.0 + Cydia or Youtube itself. Weigh your options.

Correct me if I am wrong.

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jun 22 2009, 01:32 AM)
I think IIANM, it has been stated that the new unlock will disable Youtube, so it is a toss-up between wanting the new features of 3.0 + Cydia or Youtube itself. Weigh your options.

Correct me if I am wrong.
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In my opinion, I think the possibilities of 3.0+cydia overwhelms the need for the youtube app. Streaming youtube on WIFI is really slow anyway. rolleyes.gif
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post Jun 22 2009, 07:52 AM

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YouTube seems normal to me. anyone hv tried mxtube?
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I tried on office Wifi..same YouTube connect error as well. The only way to connect as mentioned by String is to use Safari load Youtube and click on the video..with that the video will be played with Youtube app.


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Weird, I tried mine just now, and Youtube loads just fine now. I did a re-restore to a backup and it works, alebit slowly, on the native Youtube app. All's fine in the world now.

Gonna get some shut-eye. Gotta wake up in a couple of hours to meet Harmeet.
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jun 22 2009, 08:49 AM)
Weird, I tried mine just now, and Youtube loads just fine now. I did a re-restore to a backup and it works, alebit slowly, on the native Youtube app. All's fine in the world now.
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Yeah really weird issue. Oh hey... I get it now... could it be that I am not using TM Net DNS? I am on OpenDNS actually. A lot of sites not possible previously are fine with OpenDNS. My youtube on PC is quite good too.
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a not so good news.....

http://appadvice.com/appnn/2009/06/apple-b...cation-silence/

Apparently Apple just hasn’t worked out all of the push notification bugs quite yet.
still patiently waiting for Beejive update....
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post Jun 22 2009, 09:37 AM

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My iphone 3G O.S 3.0 + Jailbreak

using 3G = youtube ok, mxtube ok

using wifi at home = youtube could not connect, mxtube ok. (not check it again this morning)

using wifi at office = youtube ok, mxtube ok.

My conclusion, all related line condition.

TQ.
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QUOTE(psyeo @ Jun 22 2009, 09:14 AM)
a not so good news.....

http://appadvice.com/appnn/2009/06/apple-b...cation-silence/

Apparently Apple just hasn’t worked out all of the push notification bugs quite yet.
still patiently waiting for Beejive update....
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same here.. waiting for Beejive updates.... hope they can link to SKYPE as well, like IM3.0
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@vui_msia,
Have U used both IM+ 3.0 & BeeJiveIM? Any preference?! I'm currently on IM+ but have heard so much about BeeJiveIM, I'm considering to spend the 9.99 to get it [Yeah it's going for 9.99 now instead of 15.99 hence heheheh the impulse]

Any advice?

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I just checked YouTube app on my Office Wifi; it works albeit a little slow biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(baretta @ Jun 22 2009, 09:37 AM)
My iphone 3G O.S 3.0 + Jailbreak

using 3G = youtube ok, mxtube ok

using wifi at home = youtube could not connect, mxtube ok. (not check it again this morning)

using wifi at office = youtube ok, mxtube ok.

My conclusion, all related line condition.

TQ.
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You may want to check DNS and router settings. I've took some time to optimize the settings for mine and I have been getting youtube even on a sucky Streamyx day.

QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jun 22 2009, 10:53 AM)
@vui_msia,
Have U used both IM+ 3.0 & BeeJiveIM?  Any preference?!  I'm currently on IM+ but have heard so much about BeeJiveIM, I'm considering to spend the 9.99 to get it [Yeah it's going for 9.99 now instead of 15.99 hence heheheh the impulse]

Any advice?

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I just checked YouTube app on my Office Wifi; it works albeit a little slow biggrin.gif
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I think both are just as good. Even the IM+ 3.0 Lite (free) can send pictures, audio and support push notification as well as kept alive in background. Plus its on sale right now at USD$5.99 for the IM+ 3.0 Full Version! Yeah, I've heard a lot about Beejive too but their preview images didn't attract me. I wonder how's the usage experience like? Probably I'll check some reviews over Youtube.
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@davidmak,
Y don't U check it out and let me know?! *grins* I'm oredi using IM 3.0+ (Full version) except I got it for 0.99 so muAHahHAhah it was a no brainer. 9.99 is quite a bit of $ *muAHahAHhaHAHah* and some forummers are oredi thinking I'm becoming like those 'Ah Sam' haggling at the market ! tongue.gif
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@tinkerbel & davidmak


I bought Beejive during SALE too (few months back at US9.99), it is great due to the user friendly, well manage (eg easy to control and use, this is important especially you have so many Chating programs in a small device) and stability. smile.gif

I havent try IM myself, may be i should try out with the LITE version. Only features waiting for Beejive is - not sure when they will add SKYPE, they already ve new version support PUSH notification but pending on APPLE now.

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me just recieved the OS3.0 software update cd that sent by maxis in the black envelope. the CD also in black colour.

it will load to browser after the cd has been inserted to the cd rom. then there is the guide to follow to update the iphone.
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jun 22 2009, 11:41 AM)
@davidmak,
Y don't U check it out and let me know?! *grins*  I'm oredi using IM 3.0+ (Full version) except I got it for 0.99 so muAHahHAhah it was a no brainer.  9.99 is quite a bit of $ *muAHahAHhaHAHah* and some forummers are oredi thinking I'm becoming like those 'Ah Sam' haggling at the market ! tongue.gif
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USD$9.99 is a bit hahahaha... pricey for me. I'm worse than you (Ah Sam haggling) cause I prefer free hehehe... I'll have to wait next month cause I've hit my max ceiling as I have been purchasing a lot of games lately. I'll wait a few moments before jumping into Beejive. Too bad it doesn't have a lite/free version. I really want to see how it operates in real life. Let me check youtube tonight if there're any such reviews.

So you've got IM+ for 0.99? Thats a no brainer! I wonder when they go down again drool.gif

QUOTE(vui_msia @ Jun 22 2009, 11:45 AM)
@tinkerbel & davidmak
I bought Beejive during SALE too (few months back at US9.99), it is great due to the user friendly, well manage (eg easy to control and use, this is important especially you have so many Chating programs in a small device) and stability.  smile.gif

I havent try IM myself, may be i should try out with the LITE version. Only features waiting for Beejive is - not sure when they will add SKYPE, they already ve new version support PUSH notification but pending on APPLE now.
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Yeah try out the IM+ 3.0 lite version. It has almost everything except Facebook and Skype chat/calls. Previously the IM+ lite cannot support background services, no sending photos, etc.

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jun 22 2009, 11:41 AM)
@davidmak,
Y don't U check it out and let me know?! *grins*  I'm oredi using IM 3.0+ (Full version) except I got it for 0.99 so muAHahHAhah it was a no brainer.  9.99 is quite a bit of $ *muAHahAHhaHAHah* and some forummers are oredi thinking I'm becoming like those 'Ah Sam' haggling at the market ! tongue.gif
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*cough cough* i wonder who called you that

QUOTE(davidmak @ Jun 22 2009, 12:37 PM)
USD$9.99 is a bit hahahaha... pricey for me. I'm worse than you (Ah Sam haggling) cause I prefer free hehehe... I'll have to wait next month cause I've hit my max ceiling as I have been purchasing a lot of games lately. I'll wait a few moments before jumping into Beejive. Too bad it doesn't have a lite/free version. I really want to see how it operates in real life. Let me check youtube tonight if there're any such reviews.

So you've got IM+ for 0.99? Thats a no brainer! I wonder when they go down again  drool.gif
Yeah try out the IM+ 3.0 lite version. It has almost everything except Facebook and Skype chat/calls. Previously the IM+ lite cannot support background services, no sending photos, etc.
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i'm watching beejive's twitter like a hawk now! just waiting for them to release the push capability version i.e. BeeJiveIM 3.0

apple has yet to approve their app for public use
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@davidmak,
Yup.. 0.99 for IM+ is really a no brainer. If BeeJiveIM dropped to 0.99 I would just get it without asking much; even if it was 2.99 (considering I knew it was 15.99!) hehEHhee.....

Let me know what the final outcome is. I guess on my end I don't do games so that's quite a bit of savings for me biggrin.gif

@nokia2003,
Yeah, I wonder who! And, until Apple gets their Push Notifications in order, I don't think they'll be approving the new updates *siGh*
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@tinkerbell,

$0.99??? just checked, it's still $9.99... And what app would you sugg to send out MMS? Mine is a 2G so MMS is not avail to me...

Thanks.

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@jonest,
BeeJiveIM is going at a reduced special @ 9.99. If it was 0.99, I wouldn't have to be thinking this hard as to whether or not I should get it tongue.gif

I did however get IM+ when it was 0.99 biggrin.gif
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@tinkerbell,

Between the 2, which would u reckon (regardless the pricing)?
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@jonest,
I have the same dilemma! tongue.gif I haven't used BeeJiveIM but I been told it's pretty good and stable. Thus far, there's been no negative comments about it. Assuming if I had to pay 9.99 for IM+ and 9.99 for BeeJiveIM, no doubt I'll go with BeeJiveIM biggrin.gif
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hey guys,

after upgraded to 3.0, i could send and received MMS. But dont know why today the "camera" icon next to the SMS suddenly disappeared. Anyone know what happen?
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Anyone notice his iPhone (1st gen)batt drain out fast after using iPhone OS 3.0?

Anyone notice his iPhone (1st gen)batt drain out fast after using iPhone OS 3.0?I already turn off my push not.
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@lcwei85,
Some forummers have commented on this issue; we still aren't able to ascertain if indeed the battery drains out faster, or if it's because the battery indicator is now more 'accurate' - in the past, the indicator shows it's full but when it starts to drop, it drops rather fast.

AFAIK I used to switch off my 3G services but now that I've got my Unlimited Plan in place, I've started using it and can definitely see an issue with battery life sad.gif

PS: I am using the iPhone 3G

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jun 22 2009, 01:39 PM)
@lcwei85,
Some forummers have commented on this issue; we still aren't able to ascertain if indeed the battery drains out faster, or if it's because the battery indicator is now more 'accurate' - in the past, the indicator shows it's full but when it starts to drop, it drops rather fast.

AFAIK I used to switch off my 3G services but now that I've got my Unlimited Plan in place, I've started using it and can definitely see an issue with battery life sad.gif

PS: I am using the iPhone 3G
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Thanks..I thought my iPhone 2G batt spoil after i jailbreak it to iPhone OS3.0. sweat.gif
However I noticed that my iPhone a bit warm at the backcover just like when I using wifi or playing games,but actually I'm not!I tried to restart and restore few times and it doesn't help.It seem like some application running background.I already turn off my EDGE and wifi using BossPref.

p/s:I apologize if I make any mistake here. notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jun 22 2009, 01:32 PM)
@jonest,
I have the same dilemma! tongue.gif  I haven't used BeeJiveIM but I been told it's pretty good and stable.  Thus far, there's been no negative comments about it.  Assuming if I had to pay 9.99 for IM+ and 9.99 for BeeJiveIM, no doubt I'll go with BeeJiveIM biggrin.gif
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adui ini punyer "ah sam" manyak cerewet! tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif


QUOTE(lcwei85 @ Jun 22 2009, 01:43 PM)
Thanks,bro..I thought my iPhone 2G batt spoil after i jailbreak it to iPhone OS3.0. sweat.gif
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which sane and normal dude will actually use "tinkerbel" as his LYN nickname? whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif

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@nokia2003,
It onli shows I don't get into things blindly! I like to know what I'm getting into mah.. but I guess if this discussion continues, by the time I'm decided, BeeJiveIM might have gone back to 15.99 and muAHahhahAHha that time we'll be discussing the regrets of not getting it when it was 9.99 !! hAHahAH LOL

Ah well.. thanks and he's not the first person to have made the same mistake; I get called "bro" all the time! *siGh*
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Beejive is much more stable compared with IM+..too bad i bought it while it was USD15.99!

But i think push still not officially supported on BeeJive. I'm expecting them to release an update which supports push! I posted review and requesting for that haha!
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QUOTE(nokia2003 @ Jun 22 2009, 12:43 PM)
*cough cough* i wonder who called you that
i'm watching beejive's twitter like a hawk now! just waiting for them to release the push capability version i.e. BeeJiveIM 3.0

apple has yet to approve their app for public use
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I was wondering, if we buy it now when the new version is released we get to update for free too right?

QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jun 22 2009, 01:05 PM)
@davidmak,
Yup.. 0.99 for IM+ is really a no brainer.  If BeeJiveIM dropped to 0.99 I would just get it without asking much; even if it was 2.99 (considering I knew it was 15.99!) hehEHhee.....

Let me know what the final outcome is.  I guess on my end I don't do games so that's quite a bit of savings for me biggrin.gif

@nokia2003,
Yeah, I wonder who!  And, until Apple gets their Push Notifications in order, I don't think they'll be approving the new updates *siGh*
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2.99? Hehehe... if they go all the way to 5.99, I'll take it too! I think the only time they reduce price is just before a new version is released or when a new version is released (with untested/unreviewed features). When things die down, they would go back to normal price.
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This things u guys talking bout is messenger services rite?



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@davidmak,
BeeJiveIM has NEVER dropped below 9.99; not from ever since I been monitoring. At it's lowest it was 9.99 (and that's what it's offering now, in anticipation of 3.0] I doubt it'll ever drop below 9.99 but if it does, it'll be a good time to get it. In fact, at 9.99 it may just be a good time to get it *shrugs* I'm still 15 16 ! hAHahHAhaHAHa

Yes.. any updates after you've made the purchase if FOC to U biggrin.gif

@blugear,
Yes that's right. We're talking about IM services on iPhone biggrin.gif
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Erm,

3.0 has no change in the SMS tones right? As in, if I want to change SMS tone I still need to jailbreak? I miss my Yoda voice "MESSAGE FROM THE DARK SIDE, THERE IS" sms alert sad.gif
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jun 22 2009, 02:11 PM)
@davidmak,
BeeJiveIM has NEVER dropped below 9.99; not from ever since I been monitoring.  At it's lowest it was 9.99 (and that's what it's offering now, in anticipation of 3.0]  I doubt it'll ever drop below 9.99 but if it does, it'll be a good time to get it.  In fact, at 9.99 it may just be a good time to get it *shrugs*  I'm still 15 16 ! hAHahHAhaHAHa

Yes.. any updates after you've made the purchase if FOC to U biggrin.gif

@blugear,
Yes that's right.  We're talking about IM services on iPhone biggrin.gif
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tnikerbel,
u should take the beejive apps..., its really stable and the easiest msger apps ive use....
if its on $9.99, then why not? the price is a steal...

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QUOTE(Dozz @ Jun 22 2009, 01:34 PM)
hey guys,

after upgraded to 3.0, i could send and received MMS. But dont know why today the "camera" icon next to the SMS suddenly disappeared. Anyone know what happen?
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try to reboot your phone and see how it goes. you still use the same sim card right, then maybe got some bug etc, try and error the phone and see how it goes.

hope it helps.

@deodorant

i think the only way for you to change the sms tones is by replacing the original tones in the system,yes the sms/message app still dont have the option to change our sms tones.
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is 3.0 compatible with 2G iphone?
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Can anybody who is out of contract with Maxis iPhone 3G confirm the below - whether its true or marketing ploy? Also that site selling the 32 GB 3GS for RM3999! must be from europe biggrin.gif

http://www.iworld.com.my/blog/?p=742

"The Maxis sales personnel mentioned that they could, at their discretion should they choose to. However, they can ONLY use the iPhone 3G for calls & SMSes ONLY.

Data connectivity (3G access, internet surfing, GPRS, EDGE, etc) would not be functional anymore. To their knowledge, it is disabled/crippled if you’re not using the Maxis iPhone 3G with the supplied simcard & of course the 1 to 2 year contractual plan that you have signed up for."

I was thinking of getting the 3GS for 6 months then evaluate whether i want to switch carriers biggrin.gif
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@sinyc,
We have forummers here on DiGi & Celcom who's able to fully utilise their iPhone 3G features biggrin.gif

@g3n0c|d3,
I'm pretty convinced liow... *grins*

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QUOTE(sinyc @ Jun 22 2009, 03:58 PM)
Can anybody who is out of contract with Maxis iPhone 3G confirm the below - whether its true or marketing ploy? Also that site selling the 32 GB 3GS for RM3999! must be from europe biggrin.gif

http://www.iworld.com.my/blog/?p=742

"The Maxis sales personnel mentioned that they could, at their discretion should they choose to. However, they can ONLY use the iPhone 3G for calls & SMSes ONLY.

Data connectivity (3G access, internet surfing, GPRS, EDGE, etc) would not be functional anymore. To their knowledge, it is disabled/crippled if you’re not using the Maxis iPhone 3G with the supplied simcard & of course the 1 to 2 year contractual plan that you have signed up for."

I was thinking of getting the 3GS for 6 months then evaluate whether i want to switch carriers biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jun 22 2009, 04:38 PM)
@sinyc,
We have forummers here on DiGi & Celcom who's able to fully utilise their iPhone 3G features biggrin.gif

@g3n0c|d3,
I'm pretty convinced liow... *grins*
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review please tinky!
after u have gotten it of coz... wink.gif

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just a way to promote their products.. maxis iphones are 150% confirm unlocked. unless u got conned into buyin a locked iphone.
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QUOTE(sinyc @ Jun 22 2009, 03:58 PM)
"The Maxis sales personnel mentioned that they could, at their discretion should they choose to. However, they can ONLY use the iPhone 3G for calls & SMSes ONLY.

Data connectivity (3G access, internet surfing, GPRS, EDGE, etc) would not be functional anymore. To their knowledge, it is disabled/crippled if you’re not using the Maxis iPhone 3G with the supplied simcard & of course the 1 to 2 year contractual plan that you have signed up for."

I was thinking of getting the 3GS for 6 months then evaluate whether i want to switch carriers biggrin.gif
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What that term basically mean is the plans (any of them) are meant to be used together with the iPhone. Thats because the services are custom tailored for the iPhone. Like you said, the iPhone is basically dead in the water without any data services. A lot of people had ideas of using the plan with other phones and probably some went all the way to sell the phone. That is in violation of contract terms. First you're selling the iPhone which is subsidized in the first place for a higher value (probably) and that value (profit) is illegitimate as it was packaged with the plan. Second, you're using the service meant for the accompanying iPhone with another phone which is in violation of contract terms again.

And due to these violations, Maxis has the right to terminate your entitlement to the service itself. Of course, who would know? At this moment, we can safely assume that Maxis has no mechanism or do not place any checks (at least) to weed out illegitimate users. (They can always track the IMEI with each account, etc).

So in your case, once your contract expires you can still proceed with whatever plan you're in with the exception that you now have the freedom to switch carriers or plans within the carrier.

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Why u guys dont use nimbuzz?

Very nice and stable
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Does it support the following:

- Stay active even when exit (background)
- Push notifications
- Send attachments like pictures, audio, etc

If these are working, then great!

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@davidmak,
The Maxis iPhone plans aren't really catered for the iPhone; they're catered to make you spend more $. The ValuePlus plans are much better plans as compared to the iValue plans.

With ValuePlus, your monthly commitment is used across voice/data/SMS but with the iValue plans, it's a separate limit for voice + data and SMS is paid separately too!

@xandman,
Will do when I finally get it! But there's nothing much to review for now I guess, without push notifications tongue.gif

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yeah...
ive experience Push on my mail...
and i want EVERY app out there to have Push bulit in!


Added on June 22, 2009, 8:33 pmcan IM+ stay active in the background?
sorry..noob question... blush.gif
i really wanna test some good messenger app for use on the go...

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Yes, IM+ can stay active in the background; U decide if U want it to stay active for 10 minutes right up to 24hours (or more).
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Been using beejive since it first came out and never regret spending 15.99 on it. It's worth every penny (just like buying the iPhone).
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jun 22 2009, 07:19 PM)
@davidmak,
The Maxis iPhone plans aren't really catered for the iPhone; they're catered to make you spend more $.  The ValuePlus plans are much better plans as compared to the iValue plans.

With ValuePlus, your monthly commitment is used across voice/data/SMS but with the iValue plans, it's a separate limit for voice + data and SMS is paid separately too!

@xandman,
Will do when I finally get it! But there's nothing much to review for now I guess, without push notifications tongue.gif
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Yes, everyone knows that. We already know that, its a rip off. But thats how things are going to be. By contract those plans are for iPhone. Thats my point.
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@davidmak,
Maxis does allow the iPhone 3G to be bought outright without the plan biggrin.gif Also, for others who purchase their iPhone 3Gs out of MY, they could always keep to their ValuePlus plans + open the RM99 Unlimited Data Plan or whichever data plan that's needed.

@frozzbyte,
Ok Ok. I'm much convinced now tongue.gif
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its been few days since i update my 2G to 3.0... lagging more than 2.2.1.. anybody got the same prob?
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its been few days since i update my 2G to 3.0... lagging more than 2.2.1.. anybody got the same prob?
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I just upgraded my OS to 3.0 on my Iphone 3G and I instantly feel things are laggy/slower. Thanks Apple for making a dumb new OS and indirectly asking us to buy 3GS biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jun 22 2009, 09:52 PM)
@davidmak,
Maxis does allow the iPhone 3G to be bought outright without the plan biggrin.gif  Also, for others who purchase their iPhone 3Gs out of MY, they could always keep to their ValuePlus plans + open the RM99 Unlimited Data Plan or whichever data plan that's needed.

@frozzbyte,
Ok Ok.  I'm much convinced now tongue.gif
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Wait we're confusing ourselves. If we choose to get the iPhone at a subsidized price, we need to get either one of those iValue plans right? So once you're on contract with one of the iValue plans, by contract terms, you can only legally use the iValue plans with the iPhone. Of course if you don't want the iValue plans, you can just get the plain vanilla iPhone but at a higher retail price. There's no contract, Maxis doesn't care how you use it. It only cares about the contract because it subsidized a portion of the iPhone's price so that you would ride on their network. Splitting this off can be treated as a possible lost of revenue. Ooh you know how they twist things together. Hehehe...
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hmm since we are in 3rd wave and if it TRUE i will definitely buy the iPhone 3G S eventhough I am using iPhone 3G 16GB White cover...however sitll not sure if it will benefit me since it is more on the internal improvement. Moreover, they said they gonna have a much faster processor next year. SHould I wait for that?
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QUOTE(acc.wholesaler @ Jun 22 2009, 11:52 PM)
hmm since we are in 3rd wave and if it TRUE i will definitely buy the iPhone 3G S eventhough I am using iPhone 3G 16GB White cover...however sitll not sure if it will benefit me since it is more on the internal improvement. Moreover, they said they gonna have a much faster processor next year. SHould I wait for that?
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hardware speed and spec will always upgrade every year bro, i think there will be a new series of iphone with new spec. if we stay wait and wait then we will not get the gadget hehe. biggrin.gif

it is you your self if you want the iphone , if you think that you always use video recording and love the speed etc of iphone 3GS then you should get it.smile.gif if not then 3G is for you. icon_idea.gif

as for me i also want it but im more to macbook pro so i cancel 3GS hehe. because with the same out look, only inner different then i dont want to updgrade.smile.gif but actually i envy and want that phone but im more to macbook hehe.

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Hie forumers, is anybody using Celcom Broadband Advance stand alone sim card on the Iphone 3G 3.0?

Does it support?
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QUOTE(acc.wholesaler @ Jun 22 2009, 11:52 PM)
hmm since we are in 3rd wave and if it TRUE i will definitely buy the iPhone 3G S eventhough I am using iPhone 3G 16GB White cover...however sitll not sure if it will benefit me since it is more on the internal improvement. Moreover, they said they gonna have a much faster processor next year. SHould I wait for that?
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Actually the 'internal improvements' are going to give you a lot more than you can think of. That is in terms of more complex applications and games. Also the current iPhone OS v3.0 does no justice to the 3G[S]'s hardware. Remember one guy who installed Free Memory app and there was about 100MB+ of RAM available? That 100MB+ of free RAM can utilized for something iPhone OS always lack - MULTITASKING. Which is why I believe the next iteration of iPhone OS will have some kind of multitasking and a major overhaul. Right now iPhone's answer to multitasking is push notifications which is something like a workaround (and it is still buggy can you believe it).

Also the PowerVR SGX graphics core is some little advance core that can bring real PSP-era games to your iPhone (not possible with legacy iPhone 2G/3G). This possibility is very real. In terms of the CPU core, the latest and greatest in the ARM world is Cortex A8 for now (dual issue, in order). The next one would take some time and that is Cortex A9 (dual issue most likely and out of order). That little A9 is multi-core prep, so you'll see somewhere between 2 to 4 cores in one little ARM processor.

Looking through Apple's iPhone line, we see that they use the same hardware platform for 2 generations - iPhone 2G and then 3G. I believe you can see some trend from there. Of course, no telling they wouldn't change by next year.
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Heads-up from Psyeo, Beejive with Push Notification is up on iTunes. Click "Update" on your iPhone or check for your updates from iTunes on your PC/Mac. rclxms.gif
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@davidmak,
Yes you're absolutely right. Hence, if U purchased ur unit from Maxis and signed on a plan, U will be 'stuck' with the iValue plans till the end of your contract period.

@rushmode, clawhammer,
It's not entirely true that the phone is much slower; I felt it was lagging initially but after I rebooted the phone, it seemed fine; I haven't had a chance to test it out on TTR 2.6 yet though.

@acc.wholesaler,
It's your call as to whether U want the iPhone 3GS or not. I'll like to have it but it makes no financial sense to me. Personally, I'll continue using the iPhone 3G and wait till the iPhone 3GSS comes out next year before I even start thinking of changing biggrin.gif


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I'm hitting nothing but problems trying to log into YM through Beejive 3.0. Error message "signon.time.out" all the time.
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@stringfellow,
I think YM is on strike. Can't log onto YM through Adium either! I suspect it's not a BeeJiveIM issue but a YM issue biggrin.gif

@xandman,
Just downloaded BeeJiveIM, will give updates as soon as I'm done playing around with it but I just luv the push messages - it appears on ur menu screen like an SMS about 1 sec after it's been sent ! *LoL* Push rocks! biggrin.gif

Also, can someone tell me how long will BeeJiveIM keep U logged on? The version I downloaded doesn't allow U to set the period.

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I'm hitting nothing but problems trying to log into YM through Beejive 3.0. Error message "signon.time.out" all the time.
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Mine works fine and the push is doing its job well, anyway try reboot your phone as Beejive crashed on me before and after reboot, It was great for 30 mins now. lol. Good luck
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jun 23 2009, 09:39 AM)
@stringfellow,
I think YM is on strike.  Can't log onto YM through Adium either!  I suspect it's not a BeeJiveIM issue but a YM issue biggrin.gif

@xandman,
Just downloaded BeeJiveIM, will give updates as soon as I'm done playing around with it but I just luv the push messages - it appears on ur menu screen like an SMS about 1 sec after it's been sent ! *LoL*  Push rocks! biggrin.gif

Also, can someone tell me how long will BeeJiveIM keep U logged on?  The version I downloaded doesn't allow U to set the period.
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QUOTE(al3p @ Jun 23 2009, 09:40 AM)
Mine works fine and the push is doing its job well, anyway try reboot your phone as Beejive crashed on me before and after reboot, It was great for 30 mins now. lol. Good luck
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I can go into YM via IM+ Lite that I have, but Beejive totally spits me out every time. From "signon.time.out" error to "Connection failed on all fallback ports". rclxub.gif Om IM+ Lite , I can go in, so it's Beejive's problem on their end here. I can log into my Windows Live account tied to my Xbox Live account just fine on Beejive.

C'mon man, either make it a proper release or don't release it until you are ready, Beejive! vmad.gif

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@al3p,
Hmm.. I've tried rebooting but YM still fails to connect on my end. It shows me "Error: Connection failed on all fallback ports".

I'm also still unable to connect to YM through Adium; and apparently neekun is facing the same issue too!

*Added*
Uhm.. I just tried logging on via IM+, YM works! *urgh*

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I've just passed a formal complaint to their support forum, and at the time of the posting of this post, no response from their support team yet. Lousy! And I paid full price for this!
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@al3p,
Hmm.. I've tried rebooting but YM still fails to connect on my end.  It shows me "Error: Connection failed on all fallback ports".

I'm also still unable to connect to YM through Adium; and apparently neekun is facing the same issue too!

*Added*
Uhm.. I just tried logging on via IM+, YM works! *urgh*
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Sorry guys, I didnt notice you guys use YM. I used Gmail lol. I've read in the forum that its due to the server problem which means beejive still using old authentication. More on that stuffs here: http://www.beejive.com/support/forum/viewt....php?f=7&t=1681

@Tinkerbell
for Adium, try search for update as they just release new fix for this problem. Hope that helps

Ok, now my gmail wont work, im pissed.. vmad.gif

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i juz paid for it and now i know it cant connect to YM!
dang!
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jun 23 2009, 09:12 AM)
@rushmode, clawhammer,
It's not entirely true that the phone is much slower; I felt it was lagging initially but after I rebooted the phone, it seemed fine; I haven't had a chance to test it out on TTR 2.6 yet though.

@acc.wholesaler,
It's your call as to whether U want the iPhone 3GS or not.  I'll like to have it but it makes no financial sense to me.  Personally, I'll continue using the iPhone 3G and wait till the iPhone 3GSS comes out next year before I even start thinking of changing biggrin.gif
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Actually you can always use 'Free Memory' app. I bought that app and I don't need to restart my phone every now and then. The shocking fact is that when the phone is fully loaded or have operated for a few days the remaining RAM is 3-4MB! No wonder browsing on Safari is such a curse. Free Memory app allows me to clear/purge most of the RAM occupied or closing some unwanted programs giving me some where between 20MB-30MB. Safari is so much smoother then!

The decision to buy iPhone 3G[S] or not is pretty simple. If you have iPhone 3G already, hold on with it especially for people who have just bought it. Wait next year. If you have iPhone 2G, this is a nice upgrade. If you don't have any of the iPhones, then its simple ain't it? Hehehe...
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Tink, how about IM+ full version? Does it support Push Notification? I've half a mind to scrap Beejive and use that instead, seeing how IM+ logs me in without all this mess of a problem.
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Tink, how about IM+ full version? Does it support Push Notification? I've half a mind to scrap Beejive and use that instead, seeing how IM+ logs me in without all this mess of a problem.
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I thought both the IM+ 3.0 full and lite version support Push Notification? Its in the App Store review...
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Not on the Lite. Otherwise it would have shown in under the "Notification" settings.


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@davidmak,
FullMemory isn't available for "virgin" phones right?~ biggrin.gif

@stringfellow,
IM+ doesn't yet support push! I thought it would since BeeJiveIM oredi got theirs updated but well, I guess App Store hasn't gotten to approving it yet! My suggestion; wait it out and see if the situation improves; it should biggrin.gif

@xandman,
Er.. so fast sudah beli?! I thought U going to wait for me review? tongue.gif So now I don't need to review it oredi is it?! tongue.gif

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jun 23 2009, 10:04 AM)
Tink, how about IM+ full version? Does it support Push Notification? I've half a mind to scrap Beejive and use that instead, seeing how IM+ logs me in without all this mess of a problem.
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I think it supports the push notifications but I don't know how well it works. This is what I got from their site. www.shapeservices.com/en/products/details.php?product=im&platform=iphone
It says it supports push.

Very disappointing as this is my first iphone IM app as I dont really use it and only become interested with the push become available. Got Beejive since it got a really good review before.
Anyway, I am giving Beejive 24 hrs to fix this or else Im gonna make complain and download IM+.

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IM+ offer for only 5.99 sigh

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Goddamn this all to hell!

Half-assed release, and nothing but a bloody tease!

I was planning to celebrate this by IMing (with push notification) within cinema 3 for Transformers 2, and Beejive came back with a party-pooper. sad.gif
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@al3p,
IM+ currently pushes messages through to an email address; it doesn't quite support push the way we want it YET. There's an update awaiting approval from Apple Store and if that comes through, I believe IM+ will be able to support push.

I can't quite tell the difference between IM+ and BeeJiveIM because I only just downloaded the latter this morning. IM+ however is probably not as stable as BeeJiveIM cause after I downloaded the latest upgrade, it shut on me several times! *urgh*

@stringfellow,
And what time are U catching the movie?! Maybe by then it'll be up and running? icon_idea.gif

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jun 23 2009, 10:09 AM)
@davidmak,
FullMemory isn't available for "virgin" phones right?~ biggrin.gif

@stringfellow,
IM+ doesn't yet support push!  I thought it would since BeeJiveIM oredi got theirs updated but well, I guess App Store hasn't gotten to approving it yet!  My suggestion; wait it out and see if the situation improves; it should biggrin.gif

@xandman,
Er.. so fast sudah beli?! I thought U going to wait for me review? tongue.gif  So now I don't need to review it oredi is it?! tongue.gif
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i guess so...
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but if u could review IM+ Full...
that'd be great! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(al3p @ Jun 23 2009, 10:10 AM)
I think it supports the push notifications but I don't know how well it works. This is what I got from their site. www.shapeservices.com/en/products/details.php?product=im&platform=iphone
It says it supports push.

Very disappointing as this is my first iphone IM app as I dont really use it and only become interested with the push become available. Got Beejive since it got a really good review before.
Anyway, I am giving Beejive 24 hrs to fix this or else Im gonna make complain and download IM+.

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IM+ does not support push notification, as per the new OS 3.0 per se. What it's push notification does is that you designate an email address where your IM messages will be forwarded to, so that you will be notified by email when a new message arrives, instead of the new OS 3.0 pop-up notification.


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And what time are U catching the movie?! Maybe by then it'll be up and running?  icon_idea.gif
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I hope so. 9pm, Tink.

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jun 23 2009, 10:13 AM)
@al3p,
IM+ currently pushes messages through to an email address; it doesn't quite support push the way we want it YET.  There's an update awaiting approval from Apple Store and if that comes through, I believe IM+ will be able to support push.

I can't quite tell the difference between IM+ and BeeJiveIM because I only just downloaded the latter this morning.  IM+ however is probably not as stable as BeeJiveIM cause after I downloaded the latest upgrade, it shut on me several times! *urgh*
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I see.. guess I'll better wait then. It really sucks like I stated before, this is my first IM app but yeah. Hopefully the 5.99 price still there when the push update coming for IM+, I'll be happy to buy it lol.

Anyway how is the Adium working for you?
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@al3p,
IM+ constantly reduces its price. At 5.99 it's really not worth the $.

@xandman,
I'll do a full review tomorrow when I'm free-er and after I've used the application a little longer; at least then I can be fairer. Also, I'm off to Transformers 2 tonight so muAHahHAhahHAhah gonna be bZz !!! tongue.gif
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It is better than paying for Beejive (which i paid 13 bucks) lol. But thanks for the info and I really hope that they fix Beejive soon as I feel left out coz all my friends with Blackberry always have their YM on. sad.gif
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jun 23 2009, 10:09 AM)
@davidmak,
FullMemory isn't available for "virgin" phones right?~ biggrin.gif

@stringfellow,
IM+ doesn't yet support push!  I thought it would since BeeJiveIM oredi got theirs updated but well, I guess App Store hasn't gotten to approving it yet!  My suggestion; wait it out and see if the situation improves; it should biggrin.gif
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Tinker, its not FullMemory but FreeMemory though. It cost USD$0.99 and is available on the Apps Store. It doesn't require JB or breaking virginity hehehehe... Its a no brainer. Get it! Everyone!

By the way, I'm more inclined to ride with IM+ though. 3.1 is under way and I think I'll just pull the trigger in a day or two. tongue.gif

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@al3p,
$13 is not it's full price so I guess nothing to complain about right?! biggrin.gif Like I said, give them a couple of days to make the system right smile.gif

@davidmak,
Ok. FreeMemory is what I'm going to be downloading next biggrin.gif Thank God it's 0.99 and not 9.99!!! I'm going to be running out of iTunes credit soon *gulp*

Are U currently using IM+ or what?!

Btw anyone can tell me yet how long BeeJiveIM will keep U connected till it disconnects U?!


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$13 is not it's full price so I guess nothing to complain about right?! biggrin.gif  Like I said, give them a couple of days to make the system right smile.gif

@davidmak,
Ok.  FreeMemory is what I'm going to be downloading next biggrin.gif  Thank God it's 0.99 and not 9.99!!! I'm going to be running out of iTunes credit soon *gulp* 

Are U currently using IM+ or what?!

Btw anyone can tell me yet how long BeeJiveIM will keep U connected till it disconnects U?!

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Thanks for the information! hAHahAH I thought the Setting's part of BeeJiveIM but it's in the GENERAL-SETTINGS page *oopS* blush.gif blush.gif
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Thanks for the information! hAHahAH I thought the Setting's part of BeeJiveIM but it's in the GENERAL-SETTINGS page *oopS*  blush.gif  blush.gif
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I've just downloaded BeeJive 3.0 for iPhone. Unfortunately it's not working really well. Kinda buggy. In fact, my iPhone's rather buggy and laggy lately after updating to 3.0... =(
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Er just what are the issues/problems you're facing with BeeJiveIM?!

I guess everyone's taking advantage of it's 9.99 pricing to purchase the app before it goes back up to 15.99!
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Navigon MobileNavigator Europe Turn by Turn is already available now on iTunes Store, price is USD94.99 , valid till June 30th before it goes up.


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Unfortunately, Malaysia map isn't available. US94.99 is pretty steep too but I suppose that's how much one would pay for a Garmin anyhow tongue.gif
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AT least it's a one-shot deal. The other option, Gokivo, tricks you into thinking it is USD0.99, when in fact you need to re-subscribe within the app itself (In-App Purchase, thanks OS 3.0! mad.gif) for USD9.99 per month to keep using it. Daylight robbery in action.

As for Malaysia map, you'll have to wait for TomTom to do it. Garmin is reportedly not taking part in AppStore due to their own project with Asus for their Garmin-Asus Nuviphone.

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AT least it's a one-shot deal. The other option, Gokivo, tricks you into thinking it is USD0.99, when in fact you need to re-subscribe within the app itself (In-App Purchase, thanks OS 3.0! mad.gif) for USD9.99 per month to keep using it. Daylight robbery in action.
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Gokivo gives you updated maps, so you get monthly updates which isn't so bad. $120 per year is a bit higher than $95 but you get new POIs, updated roads etc.

Personally though I've been using Garmin GPSes since 2005 and I plan to stick to it since the free Malaysian maps are great.

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AT least it's a one-shot deal. The other option, Gokivo, tricks you into thinking it is USD0.99, when in fact you need to re-subscribe within the app itself (In-App Purchase, thanks OS 3.0! mad.gif) for USD9.99 per month to keep using it. Daylight robbery in action.

As for Malaysia map, you'll have to wait for TomTom to do it. Garmin is reportedly not taking part in AppStore due to their own project with Asus for their Garmin-Asus Nuviphone.
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@stringfellow & tishaban,
It's a good thing I don't quite need a navigator just yet. Am still using the one I got from Citibank; but that's uhm.. a GPS-Bay not a Garmin sad.gif

What to do? I'm a cheapo!
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Er just what are the issues/problems you're facing with BeeJiveIM?!

I guess everyone's taking advantage of it's 9.99 pricing to purchase the app before it goes back up to 15.99!
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Well I've been using BeeJive even before the 3.0 update. Back then it was great. Really stable and all. But just now it(beejive 3.0) just keeps hanging every now and then after the update. I'm currently doing a full reset to factory settings and restoring it now. Hopefully it'll fix the lag issues with my iPhone and BeeJive as well.
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QUOTE(tishaban @ Jun 23 2009, 12:48 PM)
Gokivo gives you updated maps, so you get monthly updates which isn't so bad. $120 per year is a bit higher than $95 but you get new POIs, updated roads etc.

Personally though I've been using Garmin GPSes since 2005 and I plan to stick to it since the free Malaysian maps are great.
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I have to check my facts on this one again since I just bought it, but IINM, Gokivo pulls all the data/maps OTA (much like Google Maps). Maps are constantly updated and you also get traffic alerts and delays in real-time. Very much like Telenav. This is a plus for many reasons, one of them being that the app doesn't take a lot of space on your phone (ie: a typical GPS app can take up to 1-2 GB of space!). The downside: constantly pulling data OTA KILLS your battery life. I guess the good thing for those of us who will be using TomTom or G-Map (which both will put all the maps on your phone), the battery drain *should* be better.


Ummmm....No. The real convenience of a GPS unit, like your Garmin, is because the maps are built-in. If this app pulls the map OTA, then it is just another Google Map, with additional turn-by-turn voice prompts. Unless coverage is complete in the areas you plan to go, then you're stuck with no background map tiles to refer to, and defeats the purpose of a GPS Navigation system in the first place.

Navigon has the map built-in, hence the 1.65GB file installation/download. The same like Garmins which have their maps inside the unit, and being read as the unit travels along. Unless there is an app that allows loading up of the Malsingmap (this has to be from the Garmin-compliant map reader), then we're all stuck with these kind of solution.

I just gave an idea to any enterprising soul here to do a Garmin-Mobile-XT-esque app for the iPhone and to load up Malsingmaps into this app. I'm sure if that enterprising soul can come up with this, it will be a smash hit and people will buy them. *hint* *hint*

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@BlueHeng,
As I'm in the office at the moment, I'm connected via Adium and not BeeJiveIM but the few minutes I spent on BeeJiveIM it was ok.

I'll post reviews later when I finally get my hands on testing the actual app biggrin.gif

@stringfellow,
hMm... too bad I just don't have the time, nor the expertise cry.gif

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jun 23 2009, 11:26 AM)
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Ok.  FreeMemory is what I'm going to be downloading next biggrin.gif  Thank God it's 0.99 and not 9.99!!! I'm going to be running out of iTunes credit soon *gulp* 
Are U currently using IM+ or what?!
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I'm on IM+ 3.0 lite but I'll be buying the full version soon. In fact, the Lite version serves me well except that nasty advertising bar. Thing I'll just buy it.

QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jun 23 2009, 12:42 PM)
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Unfortunately, Malaysia map isn't available.  US94.99 is pretty steep too but I suppose that's how much one would pay for a Garmin anyhow tongue.gif
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Wow... USD$94.99 is no small deal. Might as well get a standalone navigation device. No need to worry about battery operating time since its a dedicated device. And no crashes. Last time on my WinMo, Symbian phones with GMXT installed... at times it would just pop off and kick back to the home screen, right before I am expecting an exit. What would you do? Stop and reset? Hahaha! I guess those platforms have always been nasty. I don't know about iPhone though, but I am expecting something better on the experience.

Having said that, I would rather buy a proper device and be done with it. Also, you get to update your maps for free (in the case of Garmin and the Malsingmap collaboration). The rest of the maps... well you can always tongue.gif


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@davidmak,
There are still limitations to IM+. Also, hasn't IM+ Lite been closing on U?! It always closes on me, even the full version.

Do go ahead and purchase IM+ - perhaps then after U've used both U could write a proper review biggrin.gif It's not fair to write a review comparing 2 similar applications when U don't use both of em biggrin.gif

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I'm on IM+ 3.0 lite but I'll be buying the full version soon. In fact, the Lite version serves me well except that nasty advertising bar. Thing I'll just buy it.
Wow... USD$94.99 is no small deal. Might as well get a standalone navigation device. No need to worry about battery operating time since its a dedicated device. And no crashes. Last time on my WinMo, Symbian phones with GMXT installed... at times it would just pop off and kick back to the home screen, right before I am expecting an exit. What would you do? Stop and reset? Hahaha! I guess those platforms have always been nasty. I don't know about iPhone though, but I am expecting something better on the experience.

Having said that, I would rather buy a proper device and be done with it. Also,  you get to update your maps for free (in the case of Garmin and the Malsingmap collaboration). The rest of the maps... well you can always  tongue.gif
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I couldn't agree more.... GPS devices are so cheap nowadays. If it's about AUD50 I would still consider.. but then again I guess that's a really childish wish. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(davidmak @ Jun 23 2009, 01:07 PM)
Wow... USD$94.99 is no small deal. Might as well get a standalone navigation device. No need to worry about battery operating time since its a dedicated device. And no crashes. Last time on my WinMo, Symbian phones with GMXT installed... at times it would just pop off and kick back to the home screen, right before I am expecting an exit. What would you do? Stop and reset? Hahaha! I guess those platforms have always been nasty. I don't know about iPhone though, but I am expecting something better on the experience.

Having said that, I would rather buy a proper device and be done with it. Also,  you get to update your maps for free (in the case of Garmin and the Malsingmap collaboration). The rest of the maps... well you can always  tongue.gif
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Tell that to Garmin when they release their Nuviphone. Your point on "dedicated device" is bust when Garmin themselves are trying to cash in the lucrative mobile phone business.

The point here is, as long as the mobile platform is stable, there should not be any problem using that as your primary navigation device. With Winblows Blowbile, you'd half-expect the instability of that to interfere with the navigation program, therefore making it problematic as you described earlier. With stable mobile platforms like the Apple OS, or the mobile Linux OS Garmin is using for their Nuviphone, there shouldn't be any problems.

Carrying two devices when you can carry one? I thought Apple advocates are more open to mobile convergence when their iPhones itself symbolizes this.

The argument of "dedicated is better than convergence device" only holds true when the convergence device is unable to provide a service matching the dedicated device. Once the convergence device is able to provide operating standards that matches that of the dedicated device, then why hold on to that dedicated device anymore? It can be your standby unit, but most of the time, that convergence device can do, on par, what the dedicated device does.

The battery issue is also rendered moot since you will be using this in your car, and "hi there car charger"!

Which brings back to my point: Malaysians love free things. Malsingmaps provides free relatively updated maps. IF there is an AppStore app that can read and display these maps, then all you need to do is just buy that app, and load up your free Malsingmap and be done for, if you're not into buying maps from other providers. The question is, who will step up and make this AppStore app?

OT but somewhat related: The only reason why MalsingMap exists is because GPS users in these two countries were appalled at the level of coverage and map updating quality from the providers of maps such as Garmin themselves, or other alternatives like TeleNav, etc. That is how they embarked on their own self-dedicated journey on creating an updated map of Malaysia/Singapore (hence Malsing) for their Garmin GPS devices. Now, if these big-scale map providers like Garmin, Navigon, TeleAtlas themselves took heed and do the region proper with dedicated and updated map for this region, to a level surpassing MalsingMap, there would not be a reason to prefer the MalsingMap over these maps, other than the fact that MalsingMaps are free. I don't blame the early adopters for going their own way, look at what they have achieved with MalsingMaps. But "Free stuff" can only remain "free" so only so long.....

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String, Malsingmaps is now the official Malaysian map provider for Garmin devices so at this point in time it's free and officially sanctioned by Garmin. They've even taken advantage of features like junction view on new Garmin devices. I have personally moved to malfreemaps though and have not looked back biggrin.gif

Personally I still stick with my Garmin standalone devices for several reasons. My Nuvi has a bigger screen than my iPhone (4.3" vs. 3.5"). I'd go for even bigger screens if it weren't so prohibitively expensive. Second for outside car use my old handheld Garmin 60Cx is far more rugged than the iPhone. I have nothing against convergence but the Garmins I have are just far more optimized for what they do than the iPhone for now.

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QUOTE(neekun @ Jun 23 2009, 02:11 PM)
After several rounds of testing with Tink...BeeJive "pushes" to my iPhone  rclxm9.gif  rclxms.gif

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String, Malsingmaps is now the official Malaysian map provider for Garmin devices so at this point in time it's free and officially sanctioned by Garmin. They've even taken advantage of features like junction view on new Garmin devices. I have personally moved to malfreemaps though and have not looked back biggrin.gif

Personally I still stick with my Garmin standalone devices for several reasons. My Nuvi has a bigger screen than my iPhone (4.3" vs. 3.5"). I'd go for even bigger screens if it weren't so prohibitively expensive. Second for outside car use my old handheld Garmin 60Cx is far more rugged than the iPhone. I have nothing against convergence but the Garmins I have are just far more optimized for what they do than the iPhone for now.
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Fair enough. But tell me this. If hypothetically, the features on the iPhone catches up on the Garmin, would you be inclined to consider the iPhone a suitable GPS Nav candidtate?

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@stringfellow,
YM still doesn't work. I'm testing with neekun via @mac.com (AIM) services biggrin.gif
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YM still doesn't work.  I'm testing with neekun via @mac.com (AIM) services biggrin.gif
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Adoi! doh.gif I feverishly go and delete and reinstall Beejive hoping it would work. This is disappointing. sad.gif
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Fair enough. But tell me this. If hypothetically, the features on the iPhone catches up on the Garmin, would you be inclined to consider the iPhone a suitable GPS Nav candidtate?
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Yep, I'm open to using the iPhone as a GPS, particularly a handheld one. Again I have no problems with convergence, the only problems I see with the iPhone as a GPS device are physical ones ie. screen size and ruggedness. None of them unfortunately can be fixed with software...

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Ruggedness can be improved with cases, that also doubles as signal enhancer/antennaes like the one provided by TomTom. As for screen size, that cannot be helped. tongue.gif
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I m happily using it rite now although there's no YM support juz yet! =(

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i use msn/gtalk/facebook/Yahoo on it. and my yahoo is still connected....strangely lucky LOL
Push works fine on all

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i have @mac.com too!
but i dunno how to use it..
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@xandman,
Use AIM for @mac.com and voila U'll be connected biggrin.gif

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Like U said, perhaps ur just lucky U got connected before Yahoo changed servers?! I only got onto Adium through YM after updating YM as adviced by a fellow forummer here earlier biggrin.gif
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String, Malsingmaps is now the official Malaysian map provider for Garmin devices so at this point in time it's free and officially sanctioned by Garmin. They've even taken advantage of features like junction view on new Garmin devices. I have personally moved to malfreemaps though and have not looked back biggrin.gif

Personally I still stick with my Garmin standalone devices for several reasons. My Nuvi has a bigger screen than my iPhone (4.3" vs. 3.5"). I'd go for even bigger screens if it weren't so prohibitively expensive. Second for outside car use my old handheld Garmin 60Cx is far more rugged than the iPhone. I have nothing against convergence but the Garmins I have are just far more optimized for what they do than the iPhone for now.
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Yes, all points supported. In fact I like how things converge for Apple products. However, in terms of reliability and time-to-lock with satellites, I'll still choose a standalone device. The only time I'd use the iPhone is when I'm a pedestrian in a new city or during needy times. Like String put it, in a car you have virtually unlimited power source. Again, in a car its more convenient to have a particular device for a particular function (at least to me). I'm more comfortable in having the best device do the right job. Battery is more robust on a standalone device than on the iPhone. You can say I don't want to service the battery so soon.

Now things can converge however way they want it, but the question is whether it is good with all of them. The jack of all trades, master of none applies, at least now.


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There are still limitations to IM+.  Also, hasn't IM+ Lite been closing on U?!  It always closes on me, even the full version.

Do go ahead and purchase IM+ - perhaps then after U've used both U could write a proper review biggrin.gif  It's not fair to write a review comparing 2 similar applications when U don't use both of em biggrin.gif
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Nope, my IM+ never closes on me. Probably you're low in RAM tongue.gif Maybe you should uninstall it and then install again. I'll try do a review when the time comes.

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Nuviphone. That's al I have to say. If Garmin really think that convergence isn't where the industry is headed, they would have stayed away from putting their feet into the mobile phone industry.

Time-to-lock? Probably brought on par with TomTom's accessory addon (as part of the addon accessory API on OS3.0). As for battery servicing, that is probably the weak point in this. But if the iPhone was kept recharged throughout the travel, wouldn't that reduces the charge cycle, hence IMPROVING battery life, and REDUCING likeliness of requiring battery servicing? *shrugs*

I've had my time with Garmin devices, from the GPS60CSx (geocaching in the woods of Germany), the GPS 10X BT module ( Mapsource on my old ultraportable Sony Vaio UX) right up to the Nuvi 360. Only if you chose to do a time-to-lock at a position close from where you turn off your GPS device that the time-to-lock is fast. The initial time-to-lock, if you have moved far away, for example, last lock was in KL , the next lock is in Spain, will still take time as the device triangulates and recalculates the position back again. There is no magic procedure for fast GPS position procurement. The same applies to the iPhone as well, only thing is, it has celltower and if supported, Skyhook triangulation, to assist in more accurate and faster time-to-lock. but in the end, all GPS device, no matter whether they are standalones or not, will fall prey to high-rise building and blockage of direct-line-of-sight. Try using this in cities like New York with tight avenues and streets and line-of-sight to satellites overhead are obscured by the tall buildings while you're trying to navigate the streets below, without the WAAS optimization, good luck on getting a signal. Malaysia has not had such physical disadvantages, but try logging in while you are obscured between two tightly located buildings within a narrow alley, and watch your time-to-lock drag on.

My point here is: The only reason why people still use standalones instead on converged device is the age-old perception that the service is better on the standalone than the converged device. What happens when the iPhone catches up? And why I wonder, is Garmin sticking its feet into the mobile phone business? Because Apple is sticking their feet in Garmin's territory? I believe, in very near future, the service on these converged devices, be it Apple iPhone or the Garmin Nuviphone, will be on par with each other, nobody will be bothered with standalones anymore. These converged device will be good enough to be used on your day-to-day routine navigating the city streets.

All that Apple has to do now is DISPEL that age-old perception that the Sat-Nav solution on their iPhone is not good enough for that day-to-day routine. Until the crowd is convinced, they will stick to their tried-and-true devices. As much as I subscribe to the principles of using the best device for the job, I also subscribe to being open about the possibilities of other devices that could provide the same service while allowing valuable addons without hampering that said service. Otherwise, why would you see Garmin GPS units offering things like City Guides, picture-viewing capability, even listening to MP3 and answering calls via Bluetooth? Does that not look suspicious close to becoming a mobile phone, just add a telephony module and voila?wink.gif

Or perhaps it is because Garmin is a GPS-providing company first and just venturing into telephony now, compared to Apple who has a telephony device, the iPhone and later adds on GPS, that people would trust Garmin's more than Apple's solution? What happens when the Gamin Nuviphone comes out? People using it more for navigating first, and making occasional phone calls later?
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@ASAP,
BeejiveIM is having some issues with YM since it's update. IM+ doesn't have push message as yet.

I haven't been able to sit down to use both so can't give U a review as yet. Give me a couple more days.
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What is YM? Thanks
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Hi,

Just wondering which messaging app is preferable after the 3.0 update? IM or Beejive? Beejive is selling USD9.99 whereas IM is selling only  UD5.99? Which is one is problem free and stable? Thanks
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go for beejive... i promise u, u wont regret it...

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What is YM? Thanks
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i agree...
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very very nice!

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I gotta learn how to do that too. Newbies these days needs hand-holding to explain the simplest thing.

Not that implying anyone in here as that. Just that if you do ask simple questions that are common knowledge or easily researched in here, then you probably need hand-holding like how Nokia2003 just shown.

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muAHahHAhahAHha I figured out how nokia2003 does it.. It's all in lmgtfy.com !! tongue.gif

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Yes Sir! *now, where's that "Attention" emoticon?!*
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jun 23 2009, 04:04 PM)
I gotta learn how to do that too. Newbies these days needs hand-holding to explain the simplest thing.

Not that implying anyone in here as that. Just that if you do ask simple questions, then you probably need hand-holding like how Nokia2003 just shown.
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jun 23 2009, 04:06 PM)
muAHahHAhahAHha I figured out how nokia2003 does it.. It's all in lmgtfy.com !! tongue.gif
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to be honest, i have known that trick for quite some time already. just that i keep forgetting to apply it on hands.

so next time, to handle the newbies/spoon feeding lovers, we will opt for the nokia2003's "method"! blush.gif blush.gif blush.gif
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Wowowowo, OT already lol. hahahhaah drool.gif drool.gif

News/Short Reviews/Discussion about apps here http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1013541

But can ignore it la sweat.gif

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Hey, no fair! sad.gif Mine still says "connection fail on all fallback ports"

Office connection? 3G?


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Fair enough. But tell me this. If hypothetically, the features on the iPhone catches up on the Garmin, would you be inclined to consider the iPhone a suitable GPS Nav candidtate?
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I tested on Edge and office Wifi...both also work finally!
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Damn.. I seem to be getting this error message on BeeJiveIM

"Error: Call Timed Out, RequestID-22"

*SiGh* And it's a good thing it's the end of the workday cause now I'm going home to test it out and then go catch Transformers @ 9PM!
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Wish there is a way to change the "SOUND" for Beejive Push notification, haha...
it works great. but sometimes just not aware message, becuz it is not loud enough, especially when your phone is inside ur pocket..

it sound like "Wrooop" .... brows.gif
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People, I finally pushed the button (well touch literally) and purchase IM+ 3.0. 3.1 is still on app review and should be around the corner. Will provide a review in a couple of days and hopefully 3.1 will be out.

So far I only notice one thing and that is on WIFI whenever you put the phone to sleep, WIFI will turn off. So you won't be connected and the next time you wake the phone up it will have to reconnect. However, on cellular data connection its fine. I guess thats acceptable to me since WIFI sucks a lot of battery and I don't expect to put the phone into sleep when I'm using WIFI either. Not sure if Beejive behave similarly though.

The rest just works and no problem. I'm not a heavy user on IM actually but I bought the app anyway solely because I can get connected anywhere I wanted to. Granted that the lite version serves me well but I can't stand the advertisement bar which takes away useful space.

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i just tried it out IM+ lite too n working fine.just waiting for push mode which is not push to my email

about the wifi,i can update/download apps when in sleeping mode.i mean i dl/update the apps n it will turn to slp mode when i nvr use it..but after a while i turn back on then my app already done dl/update
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@davidmak,
U can however set IM+ to stay connected.
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Just wondering which messaging app is preferable after the 3.0 update? IM or Beejive? Beejive is selling USD9.99 whereas IM is selling only  UD5.99? Which is one is problem free and stable? Thanks
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beejive + 1 ofcoz go for the best 1 . i guess a lot forumer will say the same things too
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i just tried it out IM+ lite too n working fine.just waiting for push mode which is not push to my email

about the wifi,i can update/download apps when in sleeping mode.i mean i dl/update the apps n it will turn to slp mode when i nvr use it..but after a while i turn back on then my app already done dl/update
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Yes, thats what I noticed too. Apparently when you're downloading something, WIFI doesn't disconnect when the phone goes to sleep. It'll continue to be connected until it has downloaded and installed everything. But it doesn't behave this way when you're on IM or surfing a website. It'll disconnect. Also the IM+ 3.0's setting for vibration doesn't stick. It'll always turn on the next time you use it.

QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jun 24 2009, 12:27 AM)
@davidmak,
U can however set IM+ to stay connected.
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Yes, I've set it to be connected for 30 minutes. But 5 minutes after I put the phone to sleep, it'll disconnect. I realize it when turn on the phone and the chat I was in has gone. Had to wait for it to reconnect.
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Now the YM works with BeeJiveIM...
woohooo...

disconnect all your IMs...
close Beejive...
Reconnect all...
YM shud connect...
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@davidmak,
Yes it alwiz "reconnects" u but that's what happens with BeeJiveIM too. As to your online status, ur friends will still see that you're online.

@xandman,
Thanks for the info. But I believe it was oredi working late last night tongue.gif

Speaking of which, just wanna reconfirm, does BeeJiveIM support offline messaging?!

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I read through IM+ 3.0's support pages and some forums. Got some answers. This is how IM+ handles the so called background services.

- Non-native applications are impossible to go into background when the phone sleeps or screen turned off.
- Their workaround is to store their current state and shut down. When you call out the program again, it will restore its previous state.
- As such connection is lost when shut down and connection is re-established the next time you call out the program.
- During these times, IM+ will keep all the IM service accounts active by keeping them alive on the respective IM servers.
- Any messages during these times will be intercepted by IM+ and then forwarded to your email ala push.

These workarounds give you the impression that things are still running behind the scene even after you have turned off the screen or put the phone into sleep mode. But actually you're unable to receive any IM messages in real time. The phone won't buzz and you can't reply straight without it reconnecting to the IM servers.

Next I will try if it behaves similarly with Palringo when you leave the app and return to homescreen without going into sleep mode or screen turned off. I think it should receive messages real time too.
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@davidmak,
Apparently U can reply to messages received that's being pushed through to your email via your email. I haven't been successful in doing it but I tested it with a friend and he successfully replied my IM message through his email box.

hMm.. now it makes sense why everytime I go back into IM+ it shows me "Reconnecting" and when I go back to BeeJiveIM it wouldn't allow me to send message cause it tells me it's connecting. So I guess both the IM apps workaround it in the same manner.

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sorry to ask this, so now, the beejive will have push, and hence they wont be sending email notifications wen i receive text?

haven log in to beejive yet since 3.0
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@davidmak,
Apparently U can reply to messages received that's being pushed through to your email via your email.  I haven't been successful in doing it but I tested it with a friend and he successfully replied my IM message through his email box.

hMm.. now it makes sense why everytime I go back into IM+ it shows me "Reconnecting" and when I go back to BeeJiveIM it wouldn't allow me to send message cause it tells me it's connecting.  So I guess both the IM apps workaround it in the same manner.
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Yes, I have tested the email function and it is working excellently. My recipient can't tell that I am actually replying via email. However, I have to keep my email refreshed to see any new messages. Hotmail doesn't support push. Only Yahoo does but it doesn't seem to push anything yet. Still testing.

I guess these aren't really background apps. I wonder if developers can 'sign' these applications as native and allow it to reside in memory. That'll be cool. So for now, remember to set the 'keep services alive' longer. Otherwise it will shut down sooner or later. All this while, I had the impression that the 'keep services alive' meant keeping the app in background. Apparently it isn't. Now I doubt that the app still keep alive if we momentarily goes into homescreen. Guess thats the reason why they included a browser in the app itself.

With so little remaining free RAM, multitasking is gonna be difficult.

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beejive push feature is meaning push email?

How about the push notification, like what is demo in apple event last time?
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By the way, Yahoo Mail push works. But it is sporadic at best. It took longer than 30 minutes for it to push an email. Not reliable if you want IM+ or Beejive push to your iPhone. MobileMe is still better but I don't plan to pay hehehe....

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beejive push feature is meaning push email?

How about the push notification, like what is demo in apple event last time?
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Beejive or IM+ 's push feature is actually to keep your IM accounts active in the server. Any incoming messages will be intercepted by Beejive/IM+ and then forwarded to an email account of your choice. I am not sure if there should be a 'number' tagged on the IM icon on your iPhone. But you will receive an email with that incoming messages appended. Then you have the option to reply it. Meaning to say, when you're off the net Beejive/IM+ will continue to be your middle man, handling and relaying messages for you.

Push notifications... not sure about it hehehe... guess not now for IM+ at least.
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QUOTE(davidmak @ Jun 24 2009, 10:56 AM)
By the way, Yahoo Mail push works. But it is sporadic at best. It took longer than 30 minutes for it to push an email. Not reliable if you want IM+ or Beejive push to your iPhone. MobileMe is still better but I don't plan to pay hehehe....
Beejive or IM+ 's push feature is actually to keep your IM accounts active in the server. Any incoming messages will be intercepted by Beejive/IM+ and then forwarded to an email account of your choice. I am not sure if there should be a 'number' tagged on the IM icon on your iPhone. But you will receive an email with that incoming messages appended. Then you have the option to reply it. Meaning to say, when you're off the net Beejive/IM+ will continue to be your middle man, handling and relaying messages for you.

Push notifications... not sure about it hehehe... guess not now for IM+ at least.
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this push feature , has aredi been there liao ma
no number tagged, unless u have received messages while in the application itself, which u haven read, then there are numbers appearing on the icon
* all this was based on pre 3.0
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@feizaiII & davidmak,
Push notification is available on BeeJiveIM.

@davidmak,
You're right about YM push - it doesn't work all the time just as and when. Also, I believe if the chat screen is closed on the other side, U won't be able to send a reply via email.

@rx330,
Er... U can still push your BeeJiveIM to email [the setting is still there] but U can also enable to push notification through to your phone. It works wonders! The only bad thing is, if U get a whole load of message U see it coming in one after another and can't read the one that came in before the last one *grins*

And well, as someone mentioned earlier, the 'ring tone' is a little soft so it's miss-able if your phone's in the pocket or in the bag.

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jun 24 2009, 11:04 AM)
@feizaiII & davidmak,
Push notification is available on BeeJiveIM.

@davidmak,
You're right about YM push - it doesn't work all the time just as and when.  Also, I believe if the chat screen is closed on the other side, U won't be able to send a reply via email.
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Thanks tinkerbel.. just to clarify before purchase.
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wat do u mean by u cant read the one b4 that?
i think i have to try it personally myself to understand better biggrin.gif
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I noticed there is a notification in Setting.

I quit beejive, but no receive any badge or alert also.. Only receive email notification.
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@rx330,
Assuming 2 messages are received simultaneously, the 1st message gets pushed before the 2nd but it comes back to back hence U won't be able to even read the 1st message cause it'll be overriden by the 2nd message tongue.gif

@feizaiII,
In Settings make sure you OFF push email notification. And under Notifications, make sure U enable push notification from BeejiveIM.

Basically, this is how push notification will look like:-

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@rx330,
Assuming 2 messages are received simultaneously, the 1st message gets pushed before the 2nd but it comes back to back hence U won't be able to even read the 1st message cause it'll be overriden by the 2nd message tongue.gif

@feizaiII,
In Settings make sure you OFF push email notification.  And under Notifications, make sure U enable push notification from BeejiveIM.
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Its not working..
Is there any requirement? Whether jailbreak phone or 1st gen phone is not available for this features?
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@feizaiII,
I'm not too sure what the requirements are; perhaps U could read it up at BeeJiveIM's website. I'm on an unlocked, unjail-broken iPhone 3G biggrin.gif
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@feizaiII,
I'm not too sure what the requirements are; perhaps U could read it up at BeeJiveIM's website.  I'm on an unlocked, unjail-broken iPhone 3G biggrin.gif
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Thanks ya.. biggrin.gif


Added on June 24, 2009, 12:08 pmFrom other site..
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This problem is not about being a 2G phone! It should occur on all phones without proper activation.
This problem should occur with all non-officially activated iPhones.
Apple Push Notification deamon (apsd) checks for valid activation records on the phone, ie. if you haven’t activated your iPhone through iTunes and your carrier, Push Notifications will NOT work.

sad.gif Sound like Apple detected hacktivate phone ..

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Do you guys know that Apple will be isuing a iPhone battery life logging software. It means it will keep track of your battery consumption over a period of time and they will diagnose it on why your battery life is so poor. This can be used to determine whether the unusual battery drainage is caused by the heavy apps or the defect in the battery itself. Good news to you guys that feel their iPhone batt life is not up to expectation.

Full article here: http://www.iclarified.com/entry/index.php?enid=4332
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Do you guys know that Apple will be isuing a iPhone battery life logging software. It means it will keep track of your battery consumption over a period of time and they will diagnose it on why your battery life is so poor. This can be used to determine whether the unusual battery drainage is caused by the heavy apps or the defect in the battery itself. Good news to you guys that feel their iPhone batt life is not up to expectation.

Full article here: http://www.iclarified.com/entry/index.php?enid=4332
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I wonder if that software will be made available over apps store and readily downloadable or only provided to customers who complained. It would be good if it is made available to public. Hopefully we can contribute in logging information for Apple to improve battery performance (if any).
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Breaking news!

Maxis is holding a Product Symposium on iPhone at the Maxis office in Plaza Sentral. There, the general public can caress, demo and test the iPhone 3G[S].

This is happening NOW!

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I wonder if that software will be made available over apps store and readily downloadable or only provided to customers who complained. It would be good if it is made available to public. Hopefully we can contribute in logging information for Apple to improve battery performance (if any).
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Im not sure if it is going to available for all. SInce in the article said that there will be a tech person who analyse it. But maybe later in the future when there is a few pattern of usage has been identified to indicate whether it is batt fault or apps fault, maybe they will release to the public.

@stringfellow
Do u got ur hands on the new 3GS? So jealous Im not in Msia right now lol
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@stringfellow,
Er.. U forgot to mention when Maxis will be having that Symposium.

*tinkerbel stays far far away from Sentral*
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Ahh.. Anyone here have actually played with 3GS yet? Hopefully stringfellow go to sentral and have a try on it and would post up a rview here.

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@al3p,
iSeh... string doesn't need to go to Sentral to play with the phone. He's getting his in a couple of days! biggrin.gif

@davidgary73,
See.. U told me not to worry about spam, so I stopped worrying tongue.gif But I'll try to be a good girl from now biggrin.gif
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I'm staying far away from Plaza Sentral myself. This news was from my Maxis insider. I want my first encounter with the 3G[S] to be pure and have that brand-new store-smell feeling. So, a similar curfew for me too, Tink.

Yep, al3p, I'm getting mine from Rome, Italy. Maxis's launch is still slated for late July, at the earliest and that is still speculative. Banking on a Malaysian company is like banking on a wooden pier to hold during tsunami season, if you know what I mean.

OT:
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


All I gotta say, summer's finally here! It almost jumpstarts with Star Trek, but it fizzles with the crappy Wolverine. But that ember of a flame is kindled to a roaring fire by the Transformers. rclxms.gif

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that is so tough of you stringfellow to resist the temptation. My friend just sign up to get the 3GS here in Perth today and probably getting his iPhone on the launch day this Friday. Hopefully I can kidnap his 3GS for a good deflowering session for 2-3 hrs hehehehe. It is nice of you to get your own 3GS soon. I think I'll be drooling for another 1-2 months before i can get mine lol.

OT:
Why every forum I go today all put spoiler on the Transformers movie. Need to stay away from forum as I only gonna watch it at 8 pm today. No Transformers spoiler!!!! vmad.gif lol


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Beejive is working sporadically for me. Sometimes can log in, some times cannot. When I can, I asked Neekun to send me 3 messages to test out the push notification, but only the first of the three messages gets pushed. After that, when I try to login back into Beejive, I get auto logged out immediately. Have to press Home to reset everything and then tap Beejive again to relogin. Two failed attempts at logging in later, and now it seems a little more stable. Push notification is working at the moment, but it does not display the latest push message, only the last message pushed that is not read. Adoi!

And now my Maxis insider is spamming me with 3G[S] screenshots through MMS. WTF! cry.gif
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@stringfellow,
Er.. it's weird cause BeeJiveIM is working well on my unit. Ask Maxis insider to let U have the iPhone 3GS biggrin.gif
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LOL al3p, going with a different bunch of friends today for second round of that. And if you have read the spoiler about what happened to Optimus, it is TRUE! *cue suspenseful music*

I've been contemplating with either getting the Australian 3G[S] or other unlocked options, and what basically shot down my interest on the Aussie 3G[S] is the whole thing about getting the unlocks. That and coupled with the fact that I have to reluctantly let go of the plan I subscribe that iPhone with to strangers or someone I don't know that well, just turns me off. Personally, if I were to have to sign a contract, I'll wait out the pain and torture of waiting for Maxis 3G[S] and use the phone plan myself. It wont feel that painful, to me. No offense to anyone who feels differently, this is just my opinion. icon_rolleyes.gif

@Tink

Steal the 3G[S]? There goes my insider! laugh.gif

As for the Beejive, it is working decently now. Only that I feel the push notification can be better, with pushing the latest message instead of the last message unread.
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Tempting. Looks like at this moment, I would have to place my hope on Maxis. But I'm not putting all the eggs in the basket yet. Strange though. I guess the event at Plaza Sentral is meant for the general public, but not to the point of the whole general population. If not, they would've have put it in the papers

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Er.. I thought it pushes the latest message through! hMm.......... looks like I got to check it out properly !

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It does push, just not the latest message. And relogging into Beejive also results in sporadic can/cannot logon error. I dare not try this on 3G, kalau Wifi also like this. sad.gif

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They are probably testing the market, seeing how the general public responds to this. They must have issued private invitations to this, and only the selected few knows. If it is made public or broadcasted as such, like I have said before, the furor and anger will be hard to contain.

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If its in plaza sentral, im sure d crowd wud check out the new ip3gs. so there isnt a point tryin to cover up dat event. neway Late June is stil a looong way more..urgh. maxis speeden up d process pls:(
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Yes I'm getting that login error too but after reading davidmak's research on how the backend works I guess there's nothing much we can do about it - did it not use to be like that in the past?

U mean on ur iPhone, the messages that gets pushed to U keeps showing the 1st initial push message? On mine, it updates with the 2nd, 3rd and 4th, etc; the difference is when I see the 2nd message, the 1st message won't be viewable (onli can view 1 screen at a time mah)

Damn.. I just got an invitation to go for a Maxis Mobile Advertising thingy at Sentral. I don't wanna go there and end up bumping into the iPhone 3GS Symposium

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@stringfellow,
Yes I'm getting that login error too but after reading davidmak's research on how the backend works I guess there's nothing much we can do about it - did it not use to be like that in the past?

U mean on ur iPhone, the messages that gets pushed to U keeps showing the 1st initial push message?  On mine, it updates with the 2nd, 3rd and 4th, etc; the difference is when I see the 2nd message, the 1st message won't be viewable (onli can view 1 screen at a time mah)
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Beejive does not work like IM+. Beejive, in the past stores all your message, when you're not loggen on to teh app on your iPhone, and displays them when you log in back again. This is why it is the most preferred IM app compared to the others, because it FEELS seamless because you do not lose a single PM at al, it gets delivered to your account when you relogin back again. Now, with 3.0, Beejive attempts to eliminate that process of storing those messages by pushing it to you instead, using the Push Notification feature. IM+ however, all this while, have not had such a feature like Beejive, and only offers to send your unread PM by pushing it to a designated email address, and set that email to be pushed back to your email mailbox on your iPhone. To me, this method is not elegant and requires constant cleaning of your mailbox. Beejive works better with their keep-your-PM-till-you-log-in, and now if their Push Notification works, should be even better.

My Beejive is constantly giving me "cant connect to host" error now. So much for hoping for their best. sad.gif


Added on June 24, 2009, 4:11 pmThe Product Symposium for the iPhone is happening now at Plaza Sentral. Just a heads-up for those who wants to see the 3G[S] in action.

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jun 24 2009, 04:10 PM)
Beejive does not work like IM+. Beejive, in the past stores all your message, when you're not loggen on to teh app on your iPhone, and displays them when you log in back again. This is why it is the most preferred IM app compared to the others, because it FEELS seamless because you do not lose a single PM at al, it gets delivered to your account when you relogin back again. Now, with 3.0, Beejive attempts to eliminate that process of storing those messages by pushing it to you instead, using the Push Notification feature. IM+ however, all this while, have not had such a feature like Beejive, and only offers to send your unread PM by pushing it to a designated email address, and set that email to be pushed back to your email mailbox on your iPhone. To me, this method is not elegant and requires constant cleaning of your mailbox. Beejive works better with their keep-your-PM-till-you-log-in, and now if their Push Notification works, should be even better.

My Beejive is constantly giving me "cant connect to host" error now. So much for hoping for their best. sad.gif


Added on June 24, 2009, 4:11 pmThe Product Symposium for the iPhone is happening now at Plaza Sentral. Just a heads-up for those who wants to see the 3G[S] in action.
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I think thats where IM+ 3.1 is going to cover for the push notification. But I guess 3.0 is doing the conventional way.
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@davidmak & stringfellow,
Since I've both I'll review the IM+ push when it's available. Then again, davidmak, U just installed it right?! Ur a better reviewer smile.gif I'll just 'spam' after Ur review biggrin.gif

Hmm.. how come I didn't get such news from my Maxis Insider *hmph*.. So what's this Symposium all about?!

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jun 24 2009, 04:10 PM)
Beejive does not work like IM+. Beejive, in the past stores all your message, when you're not loggen on to teh app on your iPhone, and displays them when you log in back again. This is why it is the most preferred IM app compared to the others, because it FEELS seamless because you do not lose a single PM at al, it gets delivered to your account when you relogin back again. Now, with 3.0, Beejive attempts to eliminate that process of storing those messages by pushing it to you instead, using the Push Notification feature. IM+ however, all this while, have not had such a feature like Beejive, and only offers to send your unread PM by pushing it to a designated email address, and set that email to be pushed back to your email mailbox on your iPhone. To me, this method is not elegant and requires constant cleaning of your mailbox. Beejive works better with their keep-your-PM-till-you-log-in, and now if their Push Notification works, should be even better.

My Beejive is constantly giving me "cant connect to host" error now. So much for hoping for their best. sad.gif


Added on June 24, 2009, 4:11 pmThe Product Symposium for the iPhone is happening now at Plaza Sentral. Just a heads-up for those who wants to see the 3G[S] in action.
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You're not the only one with that problem. I'm having problems connecting to the host all the sudden. Could be some fault at the server side.
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what is happening?
Beejive is acting up again...
all of a sudden...i lose the ability to online and offline ALL accounts!
and connecting give me the signon.time error something2...


Added on June 24, 2009, 4:33 pmnow i m getting invalid response 503...
wat the hell?!!


Added on June 24, 2009, 4:33 pmthis is not funny anymore...

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Er.. maybe they're doing some upgrades *shrugs* I'm logged on via Adium so don't know about BeeJiveIM. But I guess I'll have the same issues are U guys too tongue.gif

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Can't log onto BeeJiveIM.

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I hope it's upgrading that they r doing and not something else...
bcoz now i m hooked on this beejive thingy...
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"Invalid Response Code 503"

Thanks a lot, Beejive! rolleyes.gif

I've tried deleting Beejive from my iPhone and re-downloading it from the AppStore inside the iPhone, and it spits out a message saying "The product you are downloading is no longer available". This may mean that Beejive is submitting a new version of its Beejive app, and hopefully end all this nonsense and silliness.
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jun 24 2009, 04:57 PM)
"Invalid Response Code 503"

Thanks a lot, Beejive! rolleyes.gif

I've tried deleting Beejive from my iPhone and re-downloading it from the AppStore inside the iPhone, and it spits out a message saying "The product you are downloading is no longer available". This may mean that Beejive is submitting a new version of its Beejive app, and hopefully end all this nonsense and silliness.
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they are, mate

the reason, that i'm not moaning (as much) is because i'm following their official twitter and they do update it regularly.

straight from the horse's mouth and hence there is no need for speculation (or any purchase regrets *hint tinkerbel hint*)
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QUOTE(nokia2003 @ Jun 24 2009, 05:01 PM)
they are, mate

the reason, that i'm not moaning (as much) is because i'm following their official twitter and they do update it regularly.

straight from the horse's mouth and hence there is no need for speculation (or any purchase regrets *hint tinkerbel hint*)
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jun 24 2009, 04:57 PM)
"Invalid Response Code 503"

Thanks a lot, Beejive! rolleyes.gif

I've tried deleting Beejive from my iPhone and re-downloading it from the AppStore inside the iPhone, and it spits out a message saying "The product you are downloading is no longer available". This may mean that Beejive is submitting a new version of its Beejive app, and hopefully end all this nonsense and silliness.
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So meaning they have pulled off this revision and has submitted a newer one. Lets hope the new one would be released soon.

QUOTE(nokia2003 @ Jun 24 2009, 05:01 PM)
they are, mate

the reason, that i'm not moaning (as much) is because i'm following their official twitter and they do update it regularly.

straight from the horse's mouth and hence there is no need for speculation (or any purchase regrets *hint tinkerbel hint*)
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Hahaha... despite the current letdown I still believe Beejive is a good app although I didn't purchased it. It was a money decision and I chose the more affordable alternative.
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Yeah I am a heavy user of IM+ (bought it at 99 cents, lucky me) and at first I find it very usefull to have the push notification switch on and have the virtual background process running. But within a few minutes I receive like 40 emails in gmail which is setup in my iphone, damn! So I disable the service sad.gif

But for people who likes the service, you will get the ding when new messages come in and see the counter on your email increase. Maybe you can setup a separate email account for this push message and not send to your normal email since it will be cluttered. You can use filter to redirect the push notifications to it's own folder or label and archive too.
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@ everyone.

it is still (technically) a brand new app and cut them some slack. to make things worse, 3.0 is a different "environment" and it is bound to have some hiccups here and there la.


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@nokia2003,
No regrets, bro! And shouldn't U be studying for the exam instead of studying BeejiveIM's twitter? tongue.gif

Yes.. I've not complained much about BeejiveIM have I?! Giving them a fair chance to proof themselves biggrin.gif

@davidmak,
Just like gyver, I too managed to get IM+ at 0.99 tongue.gif [oK.. I'm not going to put salt on wound!]
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All this mess could have been avoided if they hadn't posted the crappy build of the app in first place. You don't have to race to get to be the first IM to do push notification, I'd rather have an IM app that does things right bur came in last than an IM app that comes out first but riddled with problems. That's Microsoft mentality you're seeing there.

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jun 24 2009, 05:12 PM)
@davidmak,
Just like gyver, I too managed to get IM+ at 0.99 tongue.gif [oK.. I'm not going to put salt on wound!]
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Ya ya.. and you can tell the whole world I bought it at USD$5.99. But at least I bought it once. I learn that someone has 2 apps for the same thing and it was USD$9.99 a pop. Hah... tongue.gif
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@stringfellow,
Er.. how do U actually delete the app and redownload it without paying a 2nd time for it? I deleted it from my iPhone but when I tried to download it again from the App Store it tells me 9.99 so I restored from my iTunes backup.

Ah well.... I'm quite sure BeeJiveIM had quite a number of sale in the last 24 hrs so they just don't care *shrugs*
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jun 24 2009, 05:14 PM)
All this mess could have been avoided if they hadn't posted the crappy build of the app in first place. You don't have to race to get to be the first IM to do push notification, I'd rather have an IM app that does things right bur came in last than an IM app that comes out first but riddled with problems. That's Microsoft mentality you're seeing there.
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problem is, with hiccups, they are sometimes unforeseeable. you may test an app as thorough as you want (perhaps since the developer OS 3.0 came out) but blunders may not occur until it is being released to the public.

heck, if they were completely avoidable, apple or any other cooperation will not be releasing any software updates in the first place.

sometimes, mistakes are best rectify by various feedbacks received from fellow users and it is by that way, users can feel a marked improvement.

humans tend to take things for granted, and if things come out as perfect as a mold, no one will appreciate those tiny little stuff.
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@stringfellow,
Er.. how do U actually delete the app and redownload it without paying a 2nd time for it?  I deleted it from my iPhone but when I tried to download it again from the App Store it tells me 9.99 so I restored from my iTunes backup.

Ah well.... I'm quite sure BeeJiveIM had quite a number of sale in the last 24 hrs so they just don't care *shrugs*
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I think it works this way. When you download again, it'll notify you that you've purchased the app before and you're entitled to download it again for free. I guess either App Store, Apple or the developer keeps some historic information of the users. Something like Android where it manages an OTA list called My Downloads for every gmail user.
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@davidmak,
Er.. with the other applications, it states it's been installed. And when there's an update it's FREE but with this one, the 9.99 was there so I didn't dare to click, hence I did the restore through my iTunes backup.

And Yes I've got like an entire "screen" just on IM applications and I haven't figured which will work proper *siGh*
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If you do see any jailbreak post in this thread, please push ignore. I'll move them to the right threads later. If you do see any new threads that's deem for closure, please report or pm Baronic, Ah Wang or prasys to take the proper action as i'm heading for me TF:ROTF screening.

Will be back later to clean up..lolz..have a pleasant evening peeps.

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jun 24 2009, 05:16 PM)
@stringfellow,
Er.. how do U actually delete the app and redownload it without paying a 2nd time for it?  I deleted it from my iPhone but when I tried to download it again from the App Store it tells me 9.99 so I restored from my iTunes backup.

Ah well.... I'm quite sure BeeJiveIM had quite a number of sale in the last 24 hrs so they just don't care *shrugs*
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Just click that "Buy" icon again and it will tell you that you have downloaded/purchased this app before, and click "OK" if you want to redownload it again. No charge on your account.

QUOTE(nokia2003 @ Jun 24 2009, 05:19 PM)
problem is, with hiccups, they are sometimes unforeseeable. you may test an app as thorough as you want (perhaps since the developer OS 3.0 came out) but blunders may not occur until it is being released to the public.

heck, if they were completely avoidable, apple or any other cooperation will not be releasing any software updates in the first place.

sometimes, mistakes are best rectify by various feedbacks received from fellow users and it is by that way, users can feel a marked improvement.

humans tend to take things for granted, and if things come out as perfect as a mold, no one will appreciate those tiny little stuff.
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New? The method of notification may be new, but the core app is already version 3.0, or do they put it there. For an interim solution, they could have just retract the current version and fall back and put the older working version in it's place for download on the AppStore.

I didn't know that I sign up to be their beta-tester when I PAY them USD15 for this app. If I GET PAID for going through this aggravation, you won't see me griping like this. How ridiculous is it that a person PAY to use a service and is subjected to the service flawed and incomplete? I don't know how you level of tolerance is when it cones to paid service, but when it comes to me, I expect minimal fuss and satisfactory level of service for an app that demand that much money compared to its competitor who is relatively cheaper and works just fine.

Trust me, if I see my ForeFlight app goes haywire on me after I have paid USD69.99 on it, you expect all sign of the Apocalypse raining down on them from me if they don't rectify it ASAP. Communication these days has become as essential as other necessities in life that blunders like this from Beejive will only cause the on-the-fence buyers to look the other way for their IM needs.

NEVER give these companies a chance to slack off, because once they do, they know they will be easily forgiven for the mess they've caused and will take their own sweet time rectify it. Because the users give them that much chance or slack.
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@ stringfellow

i'm truly sorry but that's the fact when we are first hand/batch users, we are indeed paying to be "beta" users.

one can dispute as much as he/she wishes, but like i said, hiccups are unforeseeable. of course, it can make one mentally satiate by bombarding the said company with complaints and probably contribute an added on pressure.

theory doesn't apply to just softwares, but down to cars as well. that insufferable A pillar plastic in the honda civic which pops up when it gets too hot? surely a big corporation like honda has tested every aspect feasible before releasing the car to the public?

that's the pride (or shame) to be the first batch of anything.




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Hence all these gripings. If they can't imburse me for doing their dirty job reporting every single error reports and glitches, then [RE]imburse me for all the aggravation. If the fault is Apple's, then it's their responsibility to do so, otherwise get the guilty party to the front. Then users won't feel so used and dumped on.
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jun 24 2009, 06:32 PM)
Hence all these gripings. If they can't imburse me for doing their dirty job reporting every single error reports and glitches, then [RE]imburse me for all the aggravation. If the fault is Apple's, then it's their responsibility to do so, otherwise get the guilty party to the front. Then users won't feel so used and dumped on.
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yes, you can. it is your right as a consumer to seek such reparations.

however, if you are not happy with the final outcome, you can then proceed to seek legal action against them for negligence et cetera and ultimately the court (remember not you and i) will decide if the corporation has indeed breached its fiduciary duties.

by then, hopefully (finger crossed), justice has prevailed.
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holy crap, suddenly my battery is running out like no tomorrow 1 minute - 2% without doing anything
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holy crap, suddenly my battery is running out like no tomorrow 1 minute - 2% without doing anything
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after upgrade to 3.0 ? I notice my battery running out fast too after 3.0 . mayb i use too much tethering ?
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thats quite opposite of my experience...
i was using beejive and sms quite heavily today...
but my batt still showed 80% now...
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Added on June 24, 2009, 7:23 pmbeejive is working again.

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QUOTE(thaisxs @ Jun 24 2009, 11:18 PM)
after upgrade to 3.0 ? I notice my battery running out fast too after 3.0 . mayb i use too much tethering ?
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I have upgraded to 3.0 for a week now, battery was better than expected. but today I use my phone till the battery fully depleted, then i use the usb charger to charge it...now my battery life sucks....what a sudden change...my battery might be in bad condition now (like my macbook pro after 8 months...WTF).....


btw I manage to login to beejive again now, but push notification no longer works..
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push is working for me on Facebook IM.


Added on June 24, 2009, 7:32 pmconfirm....push works on YM too.

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The battery meter is not accurate at all. I have the Mophie Juice Pack and i left the house with full charge on both the Mophie and the iPhone. After less than 20 minutes walking around in KLCC, I noticed the "charged" icon change to "charging"! After a while it then alternates between "charged" and "charging" like crazy! The Mophie should be depleting its charges FIRST before the iPhone starts discharging it's own internal battery. The only time the iPhone should show it is charging is when it's internal battery is indicating it has depleted its charge.

I suspect that 3.0 affects the accuracy and/or sensitivity of the indicator and gives erroneous reading.


Added on June 24, 2009, 7:40 pmOther dangers I might see in this is when the iPhone shuts itself down based on this erroneous indicator when it is actually still charged with a certain percentage above the shutdown level. Then you're stuck with a dead phone when you would need to be on call.

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I see that there are quite a lot of complaint o iPhone 3GS battery on Apple support forum too....hmm


Added on June 24, 2009, 7:55 pmI think the problem with my iPhone battery is that there is something (maybe ntg at all) running at background, because the usage time keep on increasing (battery decreasing), while my phone is on standby

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I just tested push messaging to my ICQ on Beejive..it's working.

Tested push on YM wth String also...both of us got the pushy pushy messages!

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will maxis bringing in the unlocked version too?
now even italy got wei...

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@neekun,
Gee.. U still using icQ?! *grins* I should relog in to ICQ and try too! tongue.gif

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Yes Maxis will be; it's just a matter of time and DON'T ask when!
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@neekun,
Gee.. U still using icQ?! *grins*  I should relog in to ICQ and try too! tongue.gif

@contreasjun27,
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Okay now I can say all my push notifications testing completed on Beejive and AIM. But one thing i noticed my battery runs dry cepat with push notification and push email enabled.

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jun 24 2009, 07:38 PM)
The battery meter is not accurate at all. I have the Mophie Juice Pack and i left the house with full charge on both the Mophie and the iPhone. After less than 20 minutes walking around in KLCC, I noticed the "charged" icon change to "charging"! After a while it then alternates between "charged" and "charging" like crazy! The Mophie should be depleting its charges FIRST before the iPhone starts discharging it's own internal battery. The only time the iPhone should show it is charging is when it's internal battery is indicating it has depleted its charge.

I suspect that 3.0 affects the accuracy and/or sensitivity of the indicator and gives erroneous reading.


Added on June 24, 2009, 7:40 pmOther dangers I might see in this is when the iPhone shuts itself down based on this erroneous indicator when it is actually still charged with a certain percentage above the shutdown level. Then you're stuck with a dead phone when you would need to be on call.
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Sounds like the iPhone's battery has discharged a little and at the same time it realize that is connected to an 'external power'. So it starts charging. This gives me an impression that the power drain is higher than what the Mophie Juice Pack can provide or sustain. Maybe you can check what is the rate of discharge from the Mophie Juice Pack. A mobile battery charger discharges less mAH than from an external power source.

I've read of similar incidents before. For example, a phone connected on bluetooth, running a navigation program and connected to external power source. So by right it should be charging the phone but due to the high drain, its actually effectively draining whats left in the battery at a very slow rate. So at the end of the journey, the phone didn't really charge at all.
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Wow, my iPhone is so wierd man, haha..show 20% battery remaining message while charging...and the battery keep decreasing.

the only thing that i can think of now is to blame Vodafone NZ and their lousy 3G network....their 3G cellular data network seems to be down (no wonder my push notification is not working, while it works on GPRS) I guess the iPhone was trying to get push notification through iPhone 3G network, and that is why the battery deplete so fast, even while charging. Will turn off my 3G network for now and see if the battery will go back to normal....


update: battery seems to recharge normally now.
IMO, So far what i learn is, if u have push notification on, when ur 3G or GPRS data network is down, your iPhone will keep on trying to connect to the data network to retrieve push notification and hence the battery reduce faster... I might be wrong

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Wow, my iPhone is so wierd man, haha..show 20% battery remaining message while charging...and the battery keep decreasing.

the only thing that i can think of now is to blame Vodafone NZ and their lousy 3G network....their 3G cellular data network seems to be down (no wonder my push notification is not working, while it works on GPRS) I guess the iPhone was trying to get push notification through iPhone 3G network, and that is why the battery deplete so fast, even while charging. Will turn off my 3G network for now and see if the battery will go back to normal....
update: battery seems to recharge normally now.
IMO, So far what i learn is, if u have push notification on, when ur 3G or GPRS data network is down, your iPhone will keep on trying to connect to the data network to retrieve push notification and hence the battery reduce faster... I might be wrong
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I am not happy with the new battery life with OS 3.0 on my 3G iPhone.

I don't use 3G but always on Wifi. I don't use push, but fetch every 15mins for my email. I get much longer standby time with the same settings on OS 2.2.1.

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In continuation to my experience using the IM+ 3.0, I've found one annoying bug. That is the audio and vibration settings won't stick. If you slide them to OFF positions, few moments later it will go back to default (ON). Also the slide switches are very hard to move, as if the touch screen is not sensitive at all. Receive a respond from the support team acknowledging them as a bug and has been solved with version 3.1 which is currently under review.

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what i did find annoying about OS3.0 is my phone started to hang....
im still monitoring the if it would crash again but so far its all good. this is the first time it happened to me....all of suddent it just hang and showing the apple logo....

well other than that, all are fine here in the sweetville! hahahaa... and as for the battery, my batt behave the same as on 2.2.1FW
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How and where do U get the batt indicator in %? *grins* It's not available on mine tongue.gif

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My phone "died" while I was asleep [damn.... that means I'm going to have battery issues unless I keep charging the phone whenever I'm at the office - but would I have a problem of over-charging?!] and I couldn't switch it on so I plugged it on and it started to charge; I believe it was switched off.

Conclusion: 3.0 allows us to charge when iPhone is turned off biggrin.gif

Unfortunately I'm unable to compare if my batt works the same cause in the past, I only had Wifi + that location thingy on. Now, I've got 3G + Push on too! *ugh*

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QUOTE(neekun @ Jun 24 2009, 08:07 PM)
I just tested push messaging to my ICQ on Beejive..it's working.

Tested push on YM wth String also...both of us got the pushy pushy messages!
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@psyeo,
How and where do U get the batt indicator in %? *grins*  It's not available on mine tongue.gif

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I get the % through sbsettings, ( there is other way too) but u need to jailbreak...tongue.gif
Grrrr Vodafone NZ 3G sucks, lousy coverage and not reliable, I'm still unable to use 3G data...gotta use GPRS now. 1st world country with 3rd world Telco

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Ah.. oKies cause I read only the iPhone 3GS will be able to get to view the % indicator. Nah.. don't feel like de-virgining my phone; at least not yet biggrin.gif

@hussain,
I believe it's been reported by some forummer (psyeo?!) that U needed mobile service for push notification to work. As long as U got mobile service network, it doesn't matter if ur on Wifi / 3G it should work biggrin.gif
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AS I discover this painfully yesterday, push-notification pummels your iPhone battery endurance down pretty hard. I left Beejive running on push notification, and it drains the iPhone , even with the Mophie Juice Pack on, to near critical when I got back home. The 10% indicator lighted up, as I raced to plug it into the power plug.

SO make sure you turn off push notification, unless you are expecting a really important IM message on that time. Once you have received that message, IMO, I'll either completely log off Beejive, or turn push notification for Beejive off. That way, my buddies will know that I'm on the iPhone and still send me IM messages, but it wont beat my iPhone battery to a pulp.

Be warned.
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@Hussain,
You will need to have cellular data network enable (e.g. able to surf internet with 3G/EDGE/GPRS) to get near instantaneous push notification. If Wifi only, I guess u'll get push notification just like an iPod Touch...during standby it will take up to 15 minutes for the iPhone to connect to Wifi to check for push notification.

also if your iPhone is Hacktivated (non-official unlock, aka Ultrasnow and baseband unlock) there is some problem with Push notification as reported by Dev team


Added on June 25, 2009, 12:54 pm
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AS I discover this painfully yesterday, push-notification pummels your iPhone battery endurance down pretty hard. I left Beejive running on push notification, and it drains the iPhone , even with the Mophie Juice Pack on, to near critical when I got back home. The 10% indicator lighted up, as I raced to plug it into the power plug.

SO make sure you turn off push notification, unless you are expecting a really important IM message on that time. Once you have received that message, IMO, I'll either completely log off Beejive, or turn push notification for Beejive off. That way, my buddies will know that I'm on the iPhone and still send me IM messages, but it wont beat my iPhone battery to a pulp.

Be warned.
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for me the battery will not drained that fast (just like normal) with working 3G data network and with push notification on. but if the 3G/EDGE/GPRS data network fail, your battery will go down 1% or more on standby every few minutes.... I have to stick with GPRS and Wifi now when I'm at home...for some reason in my area the Vodafone 3G data network fail to work since yesterday evening and with push notification on, the battery drain like crazy (even while CHARGING the phone). I can logon to VodafoneNZ 3G network in my area, but the cellular data just fail to work on 3G (unable to surf internet).... when this happen, you'll also notice that the usage log in setting shows the amount of time use is more than the actual phone usage, even when u're on standby most of the time.

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Meeting our "Italian Job" accomplices now. The "job" will happen on the 29th and good news on successful mission will come the day after. Otherwise i will press the panic button and do it myself on my own Paris trip.
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me wonders when is our next TT, if its possible mac discovery week would be fun biggrin.gif
i don't have high hopes on the 3GS though, friend told me, she's abit disappointed on the camera picture quality, but i seriously gotta see for myself.

i reli hope i can play with the 3GS soon, *hint* *hint* abang string tongue.gif
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You can play with it now. Maxis is holding a Product Symposium for iPhone in Plaza Sentral now. Mau tunggu saya punya have to wait July 1st.

But that is a good idea on the TT. Can see a certain someone performing too. biggrin.gif
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@Harmeet

Meeting our "Italian Job" accomplices now. The "job" will happen on the 29th and good news on successful mission will come the day after. Otherwise i will press the panic button and do it myself on my own Paris trip.
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jun 25 2009, 02:45 PM)
You can play with it now. Maxis is holding a Product Symposium for iPhone in Plaza Sentral now. Mau tunggu saya punya have to wait July 1st.

But that is a good idea on the TT. Can see a certain someone performing too. biggrin.gif
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seriously..we shud plan one...perhaps after the 29..tongue.gif
we can hv a roadshow of our own
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iPhone 3G 8GB: 475 euro
iPhone 3GS 16GB: 575 euro
iPhone 3GS 32GB: 675 euro


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hMm.... that's cheaper than EU715!
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well it is..lets c wat boss has planned...smile.gif
he sure wud hv smting up his sleeves

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Ah well..... I don't think he cares as long as he gets his hands on one! Who's @ Belgium or going to Belgium?! *grins* Er.. how much is EU40? *grins* Worth the wait ah?! tongue.gif
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@Harmeet

Meeting our "Italian Job" accomplices now. The "job" will happen on the 29th and good news on successful mission will come the day after. Otherwise i will press the panic button and do it myself on my own Paris trip.
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Guess, you'll be the 1st Malaysian to own an Iphone3GS!!!! thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(jonest @ Jun 25 2009, 06:59 PM)
Guess, you'll be the 1st Malaysian to own an Iphone3GS!!!!  thumbup.gif
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don think so since start at tonite 12am iphone 3gs will b available at australia here.the store is open at 12am...thr will b many malaysian have it
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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Jun 25 2009, 05:12 PM)
don think so since start at tonite 12am iphone 3gs will b available at australia here.the store is open at 12am...thr will b many malaysian have it
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Unless they bought it and fly back home..... let's see who will be Armstrong in this scenario....  tongue.gif
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but not important though..got iphone 3gs then should b happy de
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Y is it so important to be the 1st in Malaysia to own the iPhone 3GS? Maxis oredi has a couple of units so none of us are #1 in this instance! tongue.gif

PS: This isn't a race to see who's first to obtain the iPhone 3GS!
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Y is it so important to be the 1st in Malaysia to own the iPhone 3GS?  Maxis oredi has a couple of units so none of us are #1 in this instance! tongue.gif

PS: This isn't a race to see who's first to obtain the iPhone 3GS!
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we arent racing...those who get earlier, bravo n congrats to them...
for those hvnt, they r looking for means to get it...
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jun 25 2009, 05:23 PM)
Y is it so important to be the 1st in Malaysia to own the iPhone 3GS?  Maxis oredi has a couple of units so none of us are #1 in this instance! tongue.gif

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doh.gif oooopppssssss...... dang, totally forgotten about it, perhaps some of the Apple Malaysian staff too has it....

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@harmeet15,
Ah well..... I don't think he cares as long as he gets his hands on one!  Who's @ Belgium or going to Belgium?! *grins*  Er.. how much is EU40? *grins*  Worth the wait ah?! tongue.gif
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Er... If U haf the $ and U think ur going to use those features then go ahead and upgrade but honestly, it's not so worth it.

Note: I'm being tempted on the other thread !!! *ugh*
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I'm an iPhone user as well but I can't see what's the reason behind on why you guys want it first, it's just a phone.
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QUOTE(Mike3300 @ Jun 25 2009, 07:40 PM)
I'm an iPhone user as well but I can't see what's the reason behind on why you guys want it first, it's just a phone.
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Why not? It's an option if one chooses to get iPhone 3GS. I would get it but due to $$$ issues, i would hold it out till next year.

Also - Apple announced today that the company has sold over 1 million iPhone 3GS models over this past weekend. (22nd June)

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wow...iworld.com shows that iphone 3GS 16GB sold at RM3,899 and 32 GB at RM4,299. Hopefully Maxis will give good price to current users with upgrade package.
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QUOTE(nokia2003 @ Jun 25 2009, 07:42 PM)
ROFL! then better tell that to the people who is gonna line up outside the optus store before midnight! in the freezing winter season...
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QUOTE(psjjl @ Jun 25 2009, 08:40 PM)
wow...iworld.com shows that iphone 3GS 16GB sold at RM3,899 and 32 GB at RM4,299. Hopefully Maxis will give good price to current users with upgrade package.
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Phew, just got back, 1.83Ghz becomes 2.13Ghz. Need to collect my thoughts on the recent findings, and I dont want to hurt anyone's feelings on the current OZ discovery.

I'll just let things pan out. If it does turn out fine, then congratulations to the Australians. They have been reamed on the rear end by their telco's offering since the 3G model is offered, it is high time they get the good news instead of the NZ side hogging all the unlocked units.

However, I am the eternal pessimist. That is how I keep my expectation low, always expect things to go not according to plan, so that I have recovery plans to rebound from the unexpected mishaps. Now, the word is "outright and unlocked". "Outright" can mean prepaid, meaning buying without a contract. "Unlocked" here can be interpreted as "unlocked to all the telcos in Australia" since all 5 telcos in Australia are offering the 3GS now, why the need to lock at all? They can just duke it out on who has the best contract plan to seduce their customers over. If this is the case, "unlocked" here can also mean "unlocked ONLY for telcos in Australia". I would not want to see my high hopes dashed when I slip my sim card in and still see "No Service" on the top left corner. Which brings it back to the need to contact a telco and request an unlock back again, square one.

I pray it does not turn out that way, and if it does not, I myself can be in Australia next month and get one myself. One customer is restricted to one per credit card, to if that is the case, I can bring "quite a few". tongue.gif So either way, I'm playing this cautiously. I hope our iPhone brothers in Australia comes in here with good news, so that we all can share this good news as another option/avenue to get our iPhones. rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jun 25 2009, 08:45 PM)
Phew, just got back, 1.83Ghz becomes 2.13Ghz. Need to collect my thoughts on the recent findings, and I dont want to hurt anyone's feelings on the current OZ discovery.

I'll just let things pan out. If it does turn out fine, then congratulations to the Australians. They have been reamed on the rear end by their telco's offering since the 3G model is offered, it is high time they get the good news instead of the NZ side hogging all the unlocked units.

However, I am the eternal pessimist. That is how I keep my expectation low, always expect things to go not according to plan, so that I have recovery plans to rebound from the unexpected mishaps. Now, the word is "outright and unlocked". "Outright" can mean prepaid, meaning buying without a contract. "Unlocked" here can be interpreted as "unlocked to all the telcos in Australia" since all 5 telcos in Australia are offering the 3GS now, why the need to lock at all? They can just duke it out on who has the best contract plan to seduce their customers over. If this is the case, "unlocked" here can also mean "unlocked ONLY for telcos in Australia". I would not want to see my high hopes dashed when I slip my sim card in and still see "No Service" on the top left corner. Which brings it back to the need to contact a telco and request an unlock back again, square one.

I pray it does not turn out that way, and if it does not, I myself can be in Australia next month and get one myself. One customer is restricted to one per credit card, to if that is the case, I can bring "quite a few". tongue.gif So either way, I'm playing this cautiously. I hope our iPhone brothers in Australia comes in here with good news, so that we all can share this good news as another option/avenue to get our iPhones. rclxms.gif
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i have no time to point out the correct legislation, but basically a network (given a choice) can lock their phones, provided they offer a service to unlock it later at a "reasonable" price.

if you are running a network, given such leeway, it makes sense if you wanna tie as many customers as you can, to your respective network, to increase your profitability. the only distinction is optus, where it is doing it for free because it views it as a mean of incentive for its customers.

a quick search over the telstra userguide for its employees,
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i have no time to point out the correct legislation, but basically a network (given a choice) can lock their phones, provided they offer a service to unlock it later at a "reasonable" price.

if you are running a network, given such leeway, it makes sense if you wanna tie as many customers as you can, to your respective network, to increase your profitability. the only different is optus is doing it for free because it views it as a mean of incentive for its customers.

a quick search over the telstra userguide for its employees,
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Nokia,

If u are going to Apple Store tomorrow to get an outright unit..can you test by putting in a Malaysia sim card? But of course the sim card must have roaming la...pleaseeeeeeee

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Nokia,

If u are going to Apple Store tomorrow to get an outright unit..can you test by putting in a Malaysia sim card? But of course the sim card must have roaming la...pleaseeeeeeee
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okay! no problem. i have already placed my maxis sim card inside my wallet nod.gif nod.gif nod.gif
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I understand that, but when all the 5 telcos are now offering the 3GS, the only reason I see for locking it to a specific carrier is for the specific advantages one would get for going for that plan. And since all 5 are getting it, the "unlocked" thing can be interpreted as "usable on all 5 telcos, but still locked to only Australian simcards".

Maybe I'm reading too much into this, I pray that I am WRONG. If I am, this spells good news to everyone, and I can even help shuttle some of these "unlocked" iPhones back home.
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jun 25 2009, 09:06 PM)
I understand that, but when all the 5 telcos are now offering the 3GS, the only reason I see for locking it to a specific carrier is for the specific advantages one would get for going for that plan. And since all 5 are getting it, the "unlocked" thing can be interpreted as "usable on all 5 telcos, but still locked to only Australian simcards".

Maybe I'm reading too much into this, I pray that I am WRONG. If I am, this spells good news to everyone, and I can even help shuttle some of these "unlocked" iPhones back home.
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jun 25 2009, 09:06 PM)
Maybe I'm reading too much into this, I pray that I am WRONG. If I am, this spells good news to everyone, and I can even help shuttle some of these "unlocked" iPhones back home.
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hmm, if really you are wrong that will really be a good news. But the problem is, lets assume you are wrong, if you were to help us to bring back phones, how r u going to charge since you hv to sign the contract in order to buy one right? Or u r going to take into acc the cost of terminating the contract immediately?

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hmm, if really you are wrong that will really be a good news. But the problem is, lets assume you are wrong, if you were to help us to bring back phones, how r u going to charge since you hv to sign the contract in order to buy one right? Or u r going to take into acc the cost of terminating the contract immediately?
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"Outright and unlocked". Which part of that sentence does not compute? I have done this before.

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"Outright and unlocked". Which part of that sentence does not compute?
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Hahaha, got it now. Lol. Didn't notice your previous post. Sorry bout that bro. Really hope there will be SOME good news.
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Phew, just got back, 1.83Ghz becomes 2.13Ghz. Need to collect my thoughts on the recent findings, and I dont want to hurt anyone's feelings on the current OZ discovery.
U upgraded ur MB Air? How much does it costs u? Looking tp upgrade my MB.... (sorry for the wrong thread)

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I pray it does not turn out that way, and if it does not, I myself can be in Australia next month and get one myself. One customer is restricted to one per credit card, to if that is the case, I can bring "quite a few". tongue.gif So either way, I'm playing this cautiously. I hope our iPhone brothers in Australia comes in here with good news, so that we all can share this good news as another option/avenue to get our iPhones. rclxms.gif
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Hi guys..

Is any1 of you interested in unlocked iphone 3G S from Italy? I am currently working in Milan, Italy and will be back to Malaysia sometime next month..
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Hi guys..

Is any1 of you interested in unlocked iphone 3G S from Italy? I am currently working in Milan, Italy and will be back to Malaysia sometime next month..
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Hey there!

My contact is scheduled to arrive in Rome on the 30th, and will be scouring Rome for 2 units. Targets are TIM and Vodafone store in I-Granai, as well as the Apple Store Rome in Roma Est.

Have you personally seen these iPhone 3GS working with foreign sims before? The previous cases of confirmation on the old 3G model basically does it for me, but it would be nice to get a confirmation from someone who is there already. Any word on this?
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jun 26 2009, 04:11 AM)
Hey there!

My contact is scheduled to arrive in Rome on the 30th, and will be scouring Rome for 2 units. Targets are TIM and Vodafone store in I-Granai, as well as the Apple Store Rome in Roma Est.

Have you personally seen these iPhone 3GS working with foreign sims before? The previous cases of confirmation on the old 3G model basically does it for me, but it would be nice to get a confirmation from someone who is there already. Any word on this?
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Hey! wow ppl in Malaysia just don't sleep.. haha..

I have seen iPhone 3GS selling in Vodafone, TIM, and some other electrical shops (e.g. Fnac) in Milan.. and it's coming to 3 Italia stores in July.. Apple stores are yet to be opened in Milan...

Personally I have not seen any iPhone 3GS from Italy working on foreign sims, but my sister bought an iPhone 3G when she was here in April and it works.. In fact I activated her phone for her in Italy, no problem with language as you can select English as your default language, even the given charger is a 2-pin plug and since Italy and Malaysia are using the same voltage, there's no need to get a converter specifically for that.


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Are they demanding purchase by contract basis ONLY, or can you buy them outright? Apple Store Roma Est. is selling them outright, and with that info you posted, the status of unlocks is still as "officially unlocked". I just need to know how adamant the TIM/Vodafone personnels are on pushing contract signup on you, otherwise I'll just get my contact to get them from Apple Store Roma no fuss.
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Oh absolutely no contract needed.. Just tell them you want iphone ricaricabile and you can buy them off the shelf without any contract and if I'm not mistaken it comes with prepaid sim from TIM or Vodafone.. if you buy from TIM or Vodafone..

How much is it selling in Apple store in Roma anyway?

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Vodafone and TIM are selling for EU719 for the 32GB, at Apple Store Roma it is EU699. That is still without the deductible VAT claim.

Excellent news on the no-contract news. The TIM/Voda store is actually closer to the hotel my contacts are staying so that probably would be their first place they will scout for. Driving to Lunghezza to the Apple Store may intimidate them abit, although they have plans to go out and rent a car to drive to Milan.

Thank you for the news confirmation. Cheers!

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ive been told that ppl are queuing at the optus store as early as 4am this morning be the first in OZ to get the iphone3gs.... and i dont think its kindda weird..... i still remember the fuss about harry potter and the half blood prince shenanigans last few years ago.....

it wont be a surprise if the going for a long ques.... it is after all the anticipate device of the year.....
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ive been told that ppl are queuing at the optus store as early as 4am this morning be the first in OZ to get the iphone3gs.... and i dont think its kindda weird..... i still remember the fuss about harry potter and the half blood prince shenanigans last few years ago.....

it wont be a surprise if the going for a long ques.... it is after all the anticipate device of the year.....
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4am is not early..optus purposely open their stores at 12am n many ppl queue up on the stores...
so 12am is the earliest..imagine queue in winter+midnite cold..lol


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4am is not  early..optus purposely open their stores at 12am n many ppl queue up on the stores...
so 12am is the earliest..imagine queue in winter+midnite cold..lol


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and the thing is my friend said she'll be going there after the huhas calm... means its going to be sometimes then....
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@g3n0c|d3,
Unfortunately at this point, NO one can confirm the AU iPhone 3GS are officially unlocked, useable with foreign sims! *siGh* Apparently the phones needs to be activated through iTunes before it can be tested *ugh*
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jun 26 2009, 12:03 PM)
@g3n0c|d3,
Unfortunately at this point, NO one can confirm the AU iPhone 3GS are officially unlocked, useable with foreign sims! *siGh*  Apparently the phones needs to be activated through iTunes before it can be tested *ugh*
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but then how long would it takes for them to activate through iTunes? During the US launched it took them 48hrs to activate. I wonder will Aus case the same?
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jun 26 2009, 12:03 PM)
@g3n0c|d3,
Unfortunately at this point, NO one can confirm the AU iPhone 3GS are officially unlocked, useable with foreign sims! *siGh*  Apparently the phones needs to be activated through iTunes before it can be tested *ugh*
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buy 1st... regret later... hahahaha
on the other note... i think its kindda good to just let this havoc calm first.... so if any complications we'll know and got some solutions for this....


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this guy here selling iphone 3gs from aussie

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1076269
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I'm officially closing the Italian Job. Nokia has confirmed that his Maxis simcard works with the 3G[S], and kwekeugene confirmed his DiGi sim works as well. My unit diverted to Nokia/Tink arrangement, and Harmeet managed to get his as well. Things fall nicely into place. biggrin.gif
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iPhone 3GS is available in NZ on 10th July smile.gif
http://www.vodafone.co.nz/iphone/index.jsp
Pricing for iPhone 3GS (handset only)
16GB : $1,179.00 ~ RM2711
32GB : $1,379.00 ~ RM3171



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Awesome news there, Psyeo bro! rclxms.gif

Upgrading? brows.gif


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@psyeo,
Yes.. U should upgrade.. just like I should too! tongue.gif

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Er.. I don't want to regret because I don't JB my iPhones.
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virgin mobile's pricing is out..

https://www.virginmobile.com.au/shop/iPhone.aspx

checked this morning wasnt up yet.. checked 5 mins ago and there it is..

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By the way, Apple Store in Sydney CBD sells iphone 3GS outright and unlocked.

16GB – AUD 879
32GB – AUD 1040

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By the way, Apple Store in Sydney CBD sells iphone 3GS outright and unlocked.

16GB – AUD 879
32GB – AUD 1040

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ive been told that ppl are queuing at the optus store as early as 4am this morning be the first in OZ to get the iphone3gs.... and i dont think its kindda weird..... i still remember the fuss about harry potter and the half blood prince shenanigans last few years ago.....

it wont be a surprise if the going for a long ques.... it is after all the anticipate device of the year.....
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The earliest person is Mina Abdallah. He has been there since 6.30pm.

Source

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@harmeet15,
*pulls hair out*  I'm still uhm....... deciding so a little unstable right now !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And the damn Doncaster Apple Retail Store just F-ed up big time! *sigh*
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cool down tink... biggrin.gif
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Er.. wanna go down with me?! *grins* brows.gif

@jonest,
I'm cool... cool as cucumber...

PS: I think we should stop spamming tongue.gif


---Added---

Dear All,

I've a message from davidgary73.

PLEASE do NOT ask favour to buy iPhones through post - if U must, please do it via PM. Anymore of such posts will be nuked by Mods

Hence, please stop all the requests as of this instant tongue.gif Thank U rolleyes.gif

Instead, you may want to check out Garage Sales as there are forummers selling officially unlocked iPhone 3GS and iPhone 3G there.

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Since NZ will have it on 10/7, perhaps by then we could have it???? (my fingers are crossed!!!)
Any spies @ Maxis / Apple Malaysia could enlighten desperate souls like us??? drool.gif

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@jonest,
That could be possible! Now, I need to dispose off my iPhone 3G !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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so maxis user that just bought the iphone 3g with contract package must be hitting their chest with anguish. lucky held back while waiting for the 3MP specs.
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24Kpwn lives on, in the iPhone 3GS!

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About 5 hours ago (Thursday evening, less than a week after the 3GS launch), we were able to verify that the 24Kpwn exploit that the hybrid team used on the iPod Touch 2G is still present in the bootrom of the iPhone 3GS. That means we can apply the same sort of technique used by our current redsn0w tool to jailbreak and unlock the iPhone 3GS.

This is great news, but how did it happen?  Why didn’t Apple fix this in their normal cat&mouse fashion?  Well it seems this bootrom was cut in about the August 2008 timeframe, so the unintended early reveal of 24Kpwn earlier this year didn’t affect the iPhone 3GS.

For our technical notes on where the 24Kpwn exploit is in the 3GS, see here (pastebin hash of it is here).    Our original blog post for when this exploit was first found is here.

And yes, ultrasn0w will be able to be used on the iPhone 3GS for you unlockers!

Important: Apple has not given up on the cat&mouse game, and in fact there are challenging aspects of the 3GS jailbreak that aren’t in the other devices.  It’ll take some time to safely work these into our tools, but the fundamental weaknesses are there:  The bootrom is exploitable via 24Kpwn, and the baseband is exploitable via ultrasn0w.  (And just like with the 3G, ultrasn0w for 3GS requires that you not update your baseband when Apple comes out with new firmware.)
jb is cming for 3gs...smile.gif
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jun 26 2009, 05:31 PM)
Awesome news there, Psyeo bro! rclxms.gif

Upgrading? brows.gif
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jun 26 2009, 05:36 PM)
@psyeo,
Yes.. U should upgrade.. just like I should too! tongue.gif

@g3n0c|d3,
Er.. I don't want to regret because I don't JB my iPhones.
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I guess I would...Need to dispose my iPhone 3G soon sad.gif

and welcome iPhone 3GS biggrin.gif

now is just a question of black or white, should i stick with white? hmm....


arr...that reminds me of Michael Jackson's Black or White sad.gif cry.gif

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i anybody answer my question?? izzit possible to buy an iphone 3GS from US without a contract?
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Yes I believe it is possible except they're locked units. And obviously it wouldn't be at the price of US199 or 299.
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tink...
i shall go down the road to 3gs...
only time will tell when i'd make the journey...

shall i go the Italian way or Australian way... hmm.gif

but the OZ units are much cheaper!
Dang!

I need to dispose of my 3g too la like this.... cry.gif
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if cheaper then go to OZ way lor..
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Yes I believe it is possible except they're locked units.  And obviously it wouldn't be at the price of US199 or 299.
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but i can use turbo sim to unlock right?
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but i can use turbo sim to unlock right?
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Not sure where to post this but Beejive 3.0 or IM+ Push (3.1) ? both out now with push notification and both priced USD 9.99!!!
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Both app not v stable tonight. I'm having problems with BOTH of the app.
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but would the update new version for im+ lite too?
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Both app not v stable tonight.  I'm having problems with BOTH of the app.
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hey! how come i didnt get the memo bout NZ launch 10th of july! if i didnt visit this thread, i might still be oblivious and thinks that it will come on the 17th!!
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Both app not v stable tonight.  I'm having problems with BOTH of the app.
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Yes, I have updated to IM+ 3.1 also and it quits sometimes. Weird. But push notification works and the power consumption isn't really optimistic. I've turned them off and rely the email notifications.
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Anyone saw this ?

http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/26/white-i...e-of/#continued
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I knew why my BeeJive keeps on quitting. Its due to the CHAT history it is keeping. I deleted all CHAT history and now no more quitting.


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I will wait till Singtel & Maxis announce pricing for 3G[S] ... the NZ set I have... any warranty issues... too far to claim la...
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I will wait till Singtel & Maxis announce pricing for 3G[S] ... the NZ set I have... any warranty issues... too far to claim la...
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Honestly I am also waiting for the Singtel announcement. I wonder why Singtel still have no announcement at all until today although rumor points out that the launch date might be 9th July. (Will that means that there will be no 3GS on 9th July in Singapore).
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@xandman,
So when U making the switch?! Italy or AU way U decide; but choose one where U haf friends aplenty so in case anything happen, warranty may be resolved biggrin.gif

@neekun,
I'll test it and revert later; phone charging now *grins*

@davidmak,
Wouldn't the email notifications consume as much batt as the push notifications? *grins* But ur absolutely right about battery levels reducing at super duper fast speeds!

@xaw5162,
Touch wood on warranties ! So far so good *big grin*

@shdwkillr,
Nothing much to whine about; just have to wait it out.


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i guess ill b using the 3g for a while longer.
maybe ill be getting the 3gs and keeping the 3g for development purposes. biggrin.gif
OZ or italy...still havent decided yet la tink...
most prob italy... biggrin.gif
bcoz the "contact" can buy first without me paying upfront!
hahahaha...
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I'm testing browsing features of iPhone 3gs. Seems like the loading takes half the time on average. Overall interface are much faster especially when you are typing. No usual sluggishness especially when it auto scroll for a new line. Oleophobic screen works like a charm. Hope my other buyers can fill in more about iPhone 3gs.
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I've been trying out Syngic Australia for the past couple of days and here's my short review of it.

The interface is great, extremely smooth and fast response. It's able to support portrait or landscape. Has got 3D and 2D view with loads of POIs.

But here comes the crappy part... after I've entered my desired destination and got a 3/4 bar signal, the triangular marker won't seem to move properly. It jerks back and forth quite often. To make things worst, I noticed that the marker is probably somewhere about 2-3 seconds behind my actual position while in the moving car. (Do note that on the same time I have my good old HP 612c Navigator's Garmin Mobile XT running at the same time which doesn't have similar problems)

The few possible explanations for this:
1. iPhone 3G's GPS receiver might not powerful enough.
2. iPhone 3GS might have a better GPS receiver + processor for turn-by-turn apps to work properly.
3. My iPhone 3G unit might be faulty somehow.
4. Both iPhone 3G and 3GS users might have to face that the GPS receiver in iPhones aren't good enough for proper turn-by-turn applications (without extra booster or some sort)

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im certainly hoping tat these turn by turn apps work fine for 3gS
very eager 2 purchase one of these apps, but awaiting tom tom's release..
only then can compare/ review few apps n get one... as they arent as cheap..

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iPhone 3G S now comes with the new earphones (mimicking the new iPod Shuffle's)

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Yeah I read about it; I think it's good they included Volume +/- on the headphones (even when I don't use the headphones much) *grins*
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QUOTE(nokia2003 @ Jun 28 2009, 04:02 AM)
iPhone 3G S now comes with the new earphones (mimicking the new iPod Shuffle's)

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and of course it comes with mic (iPod shuffle doesn't) smile.gif
I have sent my Apple in-ear earphones with remote for warranty claim now....for some reason the right earphone is very soft, compare to the left....

beware of water hazards while using earphones with remote and mic....they tend to act wierdly after exposed to moisture

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Just did a 10KM run while using Nike+ on the 3GS.... 1 hour using Nike+ used up 35% of the battery!
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btw is tht new earphone with mic function compatible with iphone 3g?
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Woo, posting this from my 3gs. The camera is pretty decent under sun light. Can't wait till quickpwn release for 3.0, wanna see the if emu games runs faster. Still can't believe apple store is selling this unlocked here in sydney.
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wow the new earphones sure does look awesome, sigh scared sweat enter
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If ur afraid of the sweat getting into the way then get the one without the mic for when U workout biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(psyeo @ Jun 28 2009, 12:16 AM)
and of course it comes with mic (iPod shuffle doesn't) smile.gif
I have sent my Apple in-ear earphones with remote for warranty claim now....for some reason the right earphone is very soft, compare to the left....

beware of water hazards while using earphones with remote and mic....they tend to act wierdly after exposed to moisture
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yes, that why i used the term "mimicking" biggrin.gif

anyway, looks like the iPhone 3G S's camera is too detailed for my good. you can even see those tiny dust particles on the earpiece. blush.gif blush.gif blush.gif


QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jun 28 2009, 12:56 PM)
@patience18,
If ur afraid of the sweat getting into the way then get the one without the mic for when U workout biggrin.gif
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or or or. you can it the "kiasu chinese" way... wrap it around with plastic!!! water proof at an instant! brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif

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As for the new headphones

They do work with iPhone 3G , however the remotes don't work (volume keys). I am finding a way to get it working

I'll let you know if I've managed to get it working or not with 3G. I am guessing apple might have disabled some crap as usual in order to encourage people to go for 3GS !
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QUOTE(lailaikatong @ Jun 28 2009, 09:44 AM)
Just did a 10KM run while using Nike+ on the 3GS.... 1 hour using Nike+ used up 35% of the battery!
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Mind to post up the Nike+ screen of that particular running ?
Wanna to see it in details info of Nike+. Appreciated...

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Mind to post up the Nike+ screen of that particular running ?
Wanna to see it in details info of Nike+. Appreciated...
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Screencaps in the spoiler below... I accidentally ended the workout in the middle of the 10km run so it's divided into 2 workouts... Details listed on the app are pretty basic...Distance, time, pace & calories... Would be great if it could include the running graph available on the Nike+ website, hopefully in a future update..
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jun 27 2009, 09:02 PM)
@davidmak,
Wouldn't the email notifications consume as much batt as the push notifications? *grins*  But ur absolutely right about battery levels reducing at super duper fast speeds!
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I had the impression that with email notifications it works independently of the phone. Cause you're offline and IM+ or Beejive's server keep preserving your IM accounts alive on their respective servers. It acts as a middle man. Your friends see you 'artificially' online and they send you a message. IM+ or Beejive sees it, intercepts it and divert it to your preset email address.

Of course, if you rely on push email like Yahoo or other paid email service we're back to square one. Otherwise, it doesn't really affect your phone cause its not effectively online and you only get the notification when you check your email and reply it.
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Just want to inform you guys that AppleCare is available in AU for iPhone for 99AUD. Good for who have AU set since it can extend warranty another year. And for those who already have the AU set, Im pretty sure you guys can still buy it as iPhone 3G is launched on 11th July so 11 days for you to buy the AppleCare.
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QUOTE(lailaikatong @ Jun 28 2009, 04:05 PM)
Screencaps in the spoiler below... I accidentally ended the workout in the middle of the 10km run so it's divided into 2 workouts... Details listed on the app are pretty basic...Distance, time, pace & calories... Would be great if it could include the running graph available on the Nike+ website, hopefully in a future update..
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Thanks for the pics. At least now I can see the actual things.
sorry cos of OT.
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I don't know if anyone else here noticed this but BeeJiveIM's push notifications now just pushes only the 1st message through.

Say U get 2 messages from the same person, it used to push both the messages through, not it only pushes the first one; at least that's from MY current observations.

@davidmak,
So how's IM+ ?
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So far so good. Have been happy with it. I've set IM+ to keep my account online for 6 hours. So every morning, I online once with IM+ and then exit. It'll keep my MSN, FB, etc active for the entire work day. Then I keep my web-based active and wait for messages to come in. The whole process isn't instantaneous though but just ok. However, if the other person who sent you a message is offline replying this message will be bounced back.

I've tried using Push Notifications and its quite effective. It'll show the number of messages on the app icon. Starting the program will bring you to the inbox showing all your contacts who have sent you messages. Click on one of the contact will a list of messages that has been transacted when you were offline.
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@davidmak,
That's good to hear. I think BeeJiveIM supports offline messaging which is good biggrin.gif Still have yet to test it out proper and may take a while. New toy should have arrived in KL so will be bz with it tongue.gif
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iPhone 3G S coming in Malaysia 9th July!!!!
Damn I cant wait!!!!!!!!! rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

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hello people. am being quite noobish now, but because my brother is in adelaide and he is accusing me of saying 3GS is NOT SOLD unlocked in Apple Stores. Can someone clarify this to me?
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QUOTE(wenxuan85 @ Jun 29 2009, 12:23 AM)
hello people. am being quite noobish now, but because my brother is in adelaide and he is accusing me of saying 3GS is NOT SOLD unlocked in Apple Stores. Can someone clarify this to me?
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bicmacky better be right about it... if it's 9th July, it's gonna be less than 2 weeks time oni!!!!
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@jonest,
Do U not think Maxis will hype up the launch of the iPhone 3G S?! I seriously doubt it's going to be 9th Jul but it'll be good if it is.

It's better to believe it coming from Maxis than from Apple since Maxis is the distributor here biggrin.gif I'll like to know its pricing though smile.gif

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Er.. it's available at Apple Retail Stores; however, the last time I checked, there weren't any at Adelaide.



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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jun 28 2009, 07:56 PM)
I don't know if anyone else here noticed this but BeeJiveIM's push notifications now just pushes only the 1st message through.

Say U get 2 messages from the same person, it used to push both the messages through, not it only pushes the first one; at least that's from MY current observations.
Yes. I noticed tht too. And if you got 2 msg at the same time, the push notification alert will disappear and the badge number just increase. You wont get any alert msg for subsequent msg. Damn. Beejive getting worst.
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@mONSTers,
Perhaps this way, it helps conserve battery? *shrugs* Speaking of which, assuming if another push message comes, does it even give U a sound notification or the badge number just increases?

@g3n0c|d3,
From what I see @ Garage Sales, it sure seems as if quite a number of AU units have reached our Msian shores.
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jun 29 2009, 09:52 AM)
@mONSTers,
Perhaps this way, it helps conserve battery? *shrugs*  Speaking of which, assuming if another push message comes, does it even give U a sound notification or the badge number just increases?
the push notification is functioning in a "cacat" way. sometimes it get push sometimes not until i go into the Beejive app to initiate an active chat.

U'll get another alert msg only if u clear off the chat history. else only sound notification and badge number alert.

but frankly i cant see the logic it helps in conserving the battery. after all, u'll still get the sound notification and badge number alert (which is equivalent to pushing the msg to ur phone).

this way, we'll easily miss out a msg if we never look through the app's icon, or we cant remember the badge number count. i just dun like this.

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QUOTE(lianpang @ Jun 28 2009, 11:45 PM)
http://bigmacky.wordpress.com/2009/06/11/i...han-we-thought/

iPhone 3G S coming in Malaysia 9th July!!!!
Damn I cant wait!!!!!!!!! rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
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it only state release date for malaysia is 9th July..... i doubt maxis will launch it on 9th July. coz maxis should have come out d pre-order and plan rate for it by now......(my opinion)
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@beavis68,
Er..I thought U haf a unit coming in on Wednesday?! tongue.gif

@mONSTers,
Write and give feedback to BeejiveIM support team. Perhaps because Push Notification is new they're still fine tuning things?! biggrin.gif

I'm still having issues with the application closing on me - seperti macam Windows *ish*
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@beavis68,
Er..I thought U haf a unit coming in on Wednesday?! tongue.gif

@mONSTers,
Write and give feedback to BeejiveIM support team.  Perhaps because Push Notification is new they're still fine tuning things?! biggrin.gif

I'm still having issues with the application closing on me - seperti macam Windows *ish*
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Hopefully. Paid $10 for this app and definately hopes to get best out of it. smile.gif current app still having lot of problems like crash, unstable connection, difficulty in log-in into my acc etc.
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Singtel is now ready to receive pre-order from their customers by net.

https://www.singtelshop.com/iPhone3GS/

I wonder how long Maxis will take to do the same for Malaysian.
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IM+ 3.1 still crashes on me alot, sigh, every now then it crashes and all the chat windows that I was participating all lost. guess still alot of teething issues with 3.0 FW.
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jun 29 2009, 10:41 AM)
@beavis68,
Er..I thought U haf a unit coming in on Wednesday?! tongue.gif

@mONSTers,
Write and give feedback to BeejiveIM support team.  Perhaps because Push Notification is new they're still fine tuning things?! biggrin.gif

I'm still having issues with the application closing on me - seperti macam Windows *ish*
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correction... not wednesday..... is tuesday tongue.gif

i heard u already got d i3gs rite? is it much better than 3G in terms of performance?
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@mONSTers,
Difficulty in logging onto account?! Now that's weird cause I don't have that problem though the rest are similar issues; could it be due to insufficient RAM as highlighted by some of the other forummers?

@beavis68,
You gonna collect on Tues itself ah?! Thought his flight arriving 910PM mah so it'll be quite late after he arrives home tongue.gif

3G S still not in hand as of now; will be collecting it during lunch time but opening ceremony is scheduled for 4PM biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(beavis68 @ Jun 29 2009, 10:57 AM)
correction... not wednesday..... is tuesday tongue.gif 

i heard u already got d i3gs rite? is it much better than 3G in terms of performance?
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i cannot resist not to answer this question.

the processing speed and prowess are totally unmatched.

and i'm not exaggerating!
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@nokia2003,
It's a matter of time before it's considered "slow" ! Trust me sad.gif
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QUOTE(nokia2003 @ Jun 29 2009, 11:08 AM)
i cannot resist not to answer this question.

the processing speed and prowess are totally unmatched.

and i'm not exaggerating!
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i second tat..
thr is no match at all...the amt of ram, da processing speed...no words 2 describe..
da gps locks within sheer seconds...
im sure all da new owners wud agree with this...

and i cant agree more to tink's statement too..but ya, it'll take sm time, sm heavy load apps n all that,, then maybe it wud start to show sm wear n tear...
otherwise these old apps cant make it sweat a drop..tongue.gif
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QUOTE(harmeet15 @ Jun 29 2009, 12:50 PM)
i second tat..
thr is no match at all...the amt of ram, da processing speed...no words 2 describe..
da gps locks within sheer seconds...
im sure all da new owners wud agree with this...

and i cant agree more to tink's statement too..but ya, it'll take sm time, sm heavy load apps n all that,, then maybe it wud start to show sm wear n tear...
otherwise these old apps cant make it sweat a drop..tongue.gif
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Now the thing I'm curious to know is how well is it gonna perform for turn-by-turn apps. Apparently my 3G is horrible at it. Perhaps it wasn't built with turn-by-turn in mind.
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QUOTE(BlueHeng @ Jun 29 2009, 12:58 PM)
Now the thing I'm curious to know is how well is it gonna perform for turn-by-turn apps. Apparently my 3G is horrible at it. Perhaps it wasn't built with turn-by-turn in mind.
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im also curious 2 find tat out..but im awaiting tom tom's app and then decide 2 get a turn by turn app...
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so how many of u guys have got the iphone 3gs?

u guys really makes me wanna push the red button...... tempting i should say....
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QUOTE(g3n0c|d3 @ Jun 29 2009, 01:59 PM)
so how many of u guys have got the iphone 3gs?

u guys really makes me wanna push the red button...... tempting i should say....
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rilek rilek...
hahahaha...
i pushed half way...then i released it back...
i shall wait for july 7th...

also the resale value of 3g now is very bad... =(
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@g3n0c|d3,
Er.. U hang in there and wait for davidgary73 to update the iPhone Listings. He'll set a separate one for iPhone 3G S users soon smile.gif

But obviously, there are oredi 3 users here at the moment:-
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@Shoki,
It'll never be 100% confirmed until Maxis announces it. Also, SingTel has started pre-order units; Maxis hasn't.
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I have the post up and ready @ http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=24623177

So far only harmeet and nokia responded. Yours, string, tish will be next. Just place your name when you get your 3GS. miniacs needs to post his details in the iPhone population thread so i can proceed to place him name on the post.

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@davidgary73,
You sure are efficient! Am sure the rest will be updating shortly; and knowing stringfellow there's gonna be loads of pictures of the unwrapping biggrin.gif

tish's unit doesn't come till 1st July (I hijacked his for my own use and told him to wait!) hAHahHAhahAHahHAHahAHhahA tongue.gif
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@davidgary73,
You sure are efficient!  Am sure the rest will be updating shortly; and knowing stringfellow there's gonna be loads of pictures of the unwrapping biggrin.gif

tish's unit doesn't come till 1st July (I hijacked his for my own use and told him to wait!) hAHahHAhahAHahHAHahAHhahA tongue.gif
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@harmeet15,
In due time, in due time! Am meeting stringfellow @ 4PM so figured I'll leave the office about 315PM, pick up the 3G S's and head straight to Starbucks! smile.gif
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u collected urs d?
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dia kata dia punya iphone 3GS opening ceremonies tepat pukul 4pm......... "majlis pembukaan rasmi iphone 3GS"

@tink, dun forget to post up some iphone 3GS photo...

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@beavis68,
Er.. itu opening ceremonies sudah dibuat di Melbourne, oleh nokia2003! Damn.. it's a good thing I'm no longer in school - that sentence is terribly broken! And we should spamming - Elite tag must show good example tongue.gif

I'll leave the photo taking to string biggrin.gif

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tinkerbel-may i ask where is malaysia launching the iPhone 3G S?can provide me full details?Thank You!
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@lianpang,
I believe the information can be found here

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tinkerbel-may i ask where is malaysia launching the iPhone 3G S?can provide me full details?Thank You!
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We are not Maxis personel. There's not full details on what and when the iPhone 3GS will be available in Malaysia. It may be in mid or end July. No one knows.

The iPhone 3GS will be available when Maxis has it in hand. They will announce it as and when they are ready to launch and where it's gonna be launch to the mass.

For now, keep waiting and forumers will inform everyone when the news is out.
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Oh,I just really cant wait to get it on my hand.....Well,I am also still waiting for news.Thanks everyone
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Singtel is now ready to receive pre-order from their customers by net.

https://www.singtelshop.com/iPhone3GS/

I wonder how long Maxis will take to do the same for Malaysian.
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@Shoki,
It'll never be 100% confirmed until Maxis announces it.  Also, SingTel has started pre-order units; Maxis hasn't.
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Please take note that the website provided by Singtel is not a pre-order page. It is only for consumers with interest with the 3GS to fill in their email so that they can receive the first hand news. Therefore this really makes us wonder if Singapore will have the 3GS on 9th July? Or it shall be the same story as Maxis, which basically will drag till end of July/early August.
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@shdwkillr,
Thanks for the clarification. I didn't go check out the page so I took the information as is.

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QUOTE(shdwkillr @ Jun 29 2009, 03:14 PM)
Please take note that the website provided by Singtel is not a pre-order page. It is only for consumers with interest with the 3GS to fill in their email so that they can receive the first hand news. Therefore this really makes us wonder if Singapore will have the 3GS on 9th July? Or it shall be the same story as Maxis, which basically will drag till end of July/early August.
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i have just clicked the SingTel website, and you are absolutely right.

it is not a pre-order invitation, it is merely a treat to harness interest amongst prospective candidates.
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QUOTE(harmeet15 @ Jun 29 2009, 01:25 PM)
im also curious 2 find tat out..but im awaiting tom tom's app and then decide 2 get a turn by turn app...
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Yeap Syngic Australia. haha.. I shall wait for your TomTom on 3GS reviews so we can compare with the 3G.
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QUOTE(davidgary73 @ Jun 29 2009, 02:10 PM)
@tink

I have the post up and ready @ http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=24623177

So far only harmeet and nokia responded. Yours, string, tish will be next. Just place your name when you get your 3GS. miniacs needs to post his details in the iPhone population thread so i can proceed to place him name on the post.

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jun 29 2009, 04:00 PM)
I can almost smell my baby! Come to me!  drool.gif

After this gotta go to the airport to grab the funds for the Italian iPhones. Harmeet, your Euros are with me, just holler when we can arrange so that you can grab the funds off me later.
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i wish i was thr..wink.gif
abt da euros, i've seen ur schedule for the month and at the time of writing, cant really confirmed when im cming up.. however i do hv a plan 2 cm up 2molo..i'll give u a ring if i do..smile.gif

update us when u get ur baby..tongue.gif
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may i know how to use this?? using Wifi or only work for 3GS???
can u explain more.
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It's just like any GPS device. Just use your iTunes, go appstore, purchase, download, sync into your iPhone and run the application. I've posted some screenshots few pages back. Go look.
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@harmeet15,
As we speak the phones are being activated. You should see the big grins on both stringfellow & tishaban's face! tongue.gif I figured it's easier for me to pass my unit to tishaban so I'll just wait it out till my aunt gets back Tues night biggrin.gif

@tishaban,
U owe me ! tongue.gif

Eh... the new iPhone 3GS don't have cloth lah!

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As we speak the phones are being activated.  You should see the big grins on both stringfellow & tishaban's face! tongue.gif  I figured it's easier for me to pass my unit to tishaban so I'll just wait it out till my aunt gets back Tues night biggrin.gif

@tishaban,
U owe me ! tongue.gif

Eh... the new iPhone 3GS don't have cloth lah!
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Eh... the new iPhone 3GS don't have cloth lah!
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Really... not even include the cloth now ? shocking.gif
Wwow...

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QUOTE(Mike3300 @ Jun 29 2009, 05:10 PM)
Also, the box is 20% smaller compare to the iPhone 3G's box. The top cover also don't have the sponge to protect your phone, Apple is really cutting cost.
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it is not like that i'm bringing the box along with my iPhone (hold the phone, it sounds like a good idea actually) tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif


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@nokia2003,
Yes and thanks to U. We had a little scare because we had some 'difficulties' unlocking the phone. ALL MBAs and laptops are closed because these 2 people are playing with their spanking brand new iPhone 3GS !

Btw U not on MSN?!

@Mike3300,
Yeah hor.. you're absolutely right! But well the smaller the box, the easier it is to keep! biggrin.gif

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@tishaban,
U owe me ! tongue.gif

Eh... the new iPhone 3GS don't have cloth lah!
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no fingerprints on the screen means no need for a cloth lah... tongue.gif

tink I owe you big time thank you again




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@tishaban,
So as long as you're happy can oredi lah biggrin.gif

Eh.... I just posted a picture on the forum; before my page could load for me to view the picture, string & tish oredi saw the picture! WooHoOooOO.... iPhone 3G S is fast!
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Can you guys confirm if the new 3GS olephobic screen indeed does not leave any fingerprint biggrin.gif

Wonder if those normal screen protecter can stick nicely on the new 3GS surface or requires new material type of screen protecter solely for the oleophobic screen hmm.gif

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you guys look upon that oleophobic screen too greatly. it is not a product from the future you know?

it just another "type" of screen and is not much different from the rest.

it is NOT fingerprint resistant (can you imagine what will happen if such product actually exists; that doesn't leave any fingerprints? we can all commit criminal offence without being caught) and it only makes it easier to clean if the screen comes into contact with oil based products (instead of leaving those circular moody marks around the screen)

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I am in debt to Tink, and by the extension of that, to Nokia as well, for giving me this chance to own one helluva powerful sexy beast! Tink I love you so dearly, thank you so much for all your help! wub.gif Nokia, brotherly love man! thumbup.gif

Tish, pleasant surprise isn't it? Didn't expect a new 3G[S] coming your way, and Tink comes to the rescue! rclxms.gif
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Congrats guys for the new *S*, Nokia - Harmeet - Tishaban - String - Tinkerbel.
Anybody else ? hmm.gif


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And there we have it. New, and possibly very happy and excited iPhone 3G S owners. Ah..even that can light up my day. Congrats smile.gif
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@raoul,
nokia2003 is absolutely right about the oleophobic screen; it's not finger-print proof but it does help biggrin.gif The back portion of the phone however is still subjected to finger print marks tongue.gif

@stringfellow,
No mention! Like I said, friends always look out for one another biggrin.gif And we have to really thank nokia2003 too for without him our little "tumpang" wouldn't have succeeded.

It's good to be loved; at least I know who I can go to without getting my thread reported when I start posting YouTube movies here tongue.gif

@friends & allornothing,
Thank U ! smile.gif We certainly are a happy lot and if I'm not mistaken, there's gonna be at least another 4 happy forummers here by tomorrow mid morning or afternoon biggrin.gif

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Thank U ! smile.gif We certainly are a happy lot and if I'm not mistaken, there's gonna be at least another 4 happy forummers here by tomorrow mid morning or afternoon biggrin.gif


Wow what an influx! Wish I could be part of this as well. Glad it turned out okay for the new owners rclxms.gif
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@allornothing,
It's all thanks to good timing; it's school break in Australia n people are just coming back, right after the launch of the 3GS so we're just lucky that's all.

Officially, I only become an iPhone 3GS user on Wed night / Thurs biggrin.gif
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http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/news/comm...-discoloration/

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Seems like every1 is bz wif their new toy!!!! heeeee


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source: http://iclarified.com/entry/index.php?enid=4375

Hopefully this will be the same here in Malaysia!!!

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Is that 3gs will launch at malaysia, cost i and get iphone i dun want get it then 3gs come out the maxis plan
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QUOTE(fansoption @ Jun 30 2009, 04:32 PM)
Is that 3gs will launch at malaysia, cost i and get iphone i dun want get it then 3gs come out the maxis plan
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read here bro....
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1071270
its on the 1st post

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Do you guys realize or not..

With MMS setting enabled, sending SMS to a few people at one time will result it is send as MMS instead of SMS? I believe this is a bugs...
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@boring,
I read about that somewhere too and I tested it last night with stringfellow, tishaban & davidgary73. I sent a mass SMS to the 3 of them and it wasn't sent as a mass MMS.
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probably because you accidentally put something into the subject field. try keeping the mms enabled but disable the 'show subject field'.
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hi guys. im sorry if this question has been asked but im wondering how much iphone 3G S will cost here in Malaysia. is it the same price as in garage sale where ppl selling unlocked set from oz? thanks!
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QUOTE(xxx306 @ Jun 30 2009, 06:17 PM)
hi guys. im sorry if this question has been asked but im wondering how much iphone 3G S will cost here in Malaysia. is it the same price as in garage sale where ppl selling unlocked set from oz? thanks!
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QUOTE(xxx306 @ Jun 30 2009, 06:17 PM)
hi guys. im sorry if this question has been asked but im wondering how much iphone 3G S will cost here in Malaysia. is it the same price as in garage sale where ppl selling unlocked set from oz? thanks!
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we'll have to wait until Maxis reveal the plans & pricing in July. in Aussie, outright prices are AU$879 for 16GB (approx. RM2550) and AU$1040 for 32GB (approx. RM3016). so you can roughly get the idea of how much Maxis will price the models, if they were to sell them outright.
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QUOTE(teikwing @ Jun 30 2009, 06:27 PM)
we'll have to wait until Maxis reveal the plans & pricing in July. in Aussie, outright prices are AU$879 for 16GB (approx. RM2550) and AU$1040 for 32GB (approx. RM3016). so you can roughly get the idea of how much Maxis will price the models, if they were to sell them outright.
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in NZ d 16gb price maintained with the 32gb priced higher.
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is the news about overheat true? any iphone 3gs owner experience it yet? china product...
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QUOTE(Valentineday @ Jun 30 2009, 07:01 PM)
is the news about overheat true? any iphone 3gs owner experience it yet? china product...
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which product on the market, isn't made in china nowadays?

totally uncalled for, statement
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QUOTE(teikwing @ Jun 30 2009, 06:27 PM)
we'll have to wait until Maxis reveal the plans & pricing in July. in Aussie, outright prices are AU$879 for 16GB (approx. RM2550) and AU$1040 for 32GB (approx. RM3016). so you can roughly get the idea of how much Maxis will price the models, if they were to sell them outright.
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if we're doing to buy it from maxis do we need to buy the plan as well? or do they offer the phone seperately?
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went and checked out Samsung Jet last weekend but to my dissapointment in term of slide smoothness apple is still the best, i mean even my 1st gen ipod touch beat it hands down.

o2 are selling it for 440 pounds for 16gb(pay and go), i read in 1st page that all o2 sets are locked so i assume even for pay and go it is still locked to o2?
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QUOTE(xxx306 @ Jun 30 2009, 07:22 PM)
if we're doing to buy it from maxis do we need to buy the plan as well? or do they offer the phone seperately?
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happy birthday! u buy the phone with plan....u sign the plan maxis will subsidize abit for ur iphone....exp..u sign 2 year contract that cost 99 per month..maxis will subsidize iphone for lik 200 less than the market...cool? hats what happen to iphone 3g...iphone 3gs might be different..
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Maxis iPhone Microsite Unavailable; iPhone 3GS Update Imminent?

http://mytechnews.info/b/2009/06/maxis-iph...e-imminent.html
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Maxis iPhone Microsite Unavailable; iPhone 3GS Update Imminent?

http://mytechnews.info/b/2009/06/maxis-iph...e-imminent.html
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nothin much..they jus increased d fonts n all.. sad.gif
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@Valentineday,
Er... if U haven't noticed, Apple products are Made in China, Designed in California! tongue.gif

@xxx306,
The questions U have asked is not something we're able to tell until Maxis makes the official announcement.
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QUOTE(Valentineday @ Jun 30 2009, 07:30 PM)
happy birthday! u buy the phone with plan....u sign the plan maxis will subsidize abit for ur iphone....exp..u sign 2 year contract that cost 99 per month..maxis will subsidize iphone for lik 200 less than the market...cool? hats what happen to iphone 3g...iphone 3gs might be different..
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QUOTE(sanosizo @ Jun 30 2009, 05:49 PM)
probably because you accidentally put something into the subject field. try keeping the mms enabled but disable the 'show subject field'.
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I can confirm that 'show subject field is disabled' and send it twice to my friends.. all received as MMS.. smile.gif
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@boring,
It's weird because just the other evening I brought this topic up with a few of the forummers here. We tested it and they all received my text as SMS.

PS: How would U know whether you're receiving an MMS or SMS other than to check if the data streaming logo is on.
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@tinkerbel, not sure why in this case.

Even without sending the message, I can see it will be send as MMS already.

1. Send to only 1 person = SMS

user posted image

2. Send to more than 1 person = MMS

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Anyway small matter, I can just disable the MMS via setting. It just a bit inconvenient only. smile.gif
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@boring,
Ahh... well I don't get it... the top of the screen still says 'New Message' on mine. Did U JB ur phone? tongue.gif
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Yes, jailbreak it. Is it the culprit in this case? Huhuhu smile.gif
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@boring,
I'm not so sure... but perhaps?! *shrugs*

Hey, can we have a bit of input from the other users on this matter, please? biggrin.gif
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Just received the super slim super sexy Mophie Juice Pack Air from Jacquie just now. Shiny shiny! Compliments the 3G[S] perfectly!

Next up will be the TruePower iV from her, getting it on Sunday once I'm back from Osaka. Highly recommend Jacquie for her items, professional and patient as well. Jacquie, if you're reading this, I really appreciate your patience with me, I am a little impatient when it comes to my things. tongue.gif notworthy.gif

Once I get all three of the extended battery packs, I'll probably do a comparative review between the three. Stay tuned!

Also, Harmeet bro, your cash is with your bro. We went together to meet Jacquie just now. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jul 1 2009, 03:30 PM)
Just received the super slim super sexy Mophie Juice Pack Air from Jacquie just now. Shiny shiny! Compliments the 3G[S] perfectly!

Next up will be the TruePower iV from her, getting it on Sunday once I'm back from Osaka. Highly recommend Jacquie for her items, professional and patient as well. Jacquie, if you're reading this, I really appreciate your patience with me, I am a little impatient when it comes to my things. tongue.gif notworthy.gif

Once I get all three of the extended battery packs, I'll probably do a comparative review between the three. Stay tuned!

Also, Harmeet bro, your cash is with your bro. We went together to meet Jacquie just now. biggrin.gif
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yup, i heard..and i also heard tat u managed 2 poison my frens thr..tongue.gif
they were saying i shud get 2 sell of their 3g and plan out for 3gS...
***hint***hint***any1 looking for 3g****

im seriously getting worried abt my bat la..morning 8am, full 100%..3g off, location off, bluetooth off, push off...still it comes down 2 64% at da time of writing...
any of u 3gS owners hving similar prob?
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The battery indicator may not be accurate, bro. Even on my old 3G it fluctuates wildly, to a point that it forces ny old Mophie to recharge it even when it is not supposed to.

I can't really say about your query there other than a restore and start from fresh. Don't restore from a backup and monitor your battery drainage. If it works fine, then install apps one at a time and monitor and see if the battery depletes worse than it should. That app may be the culprit. Do it similarly with your jailbreaks. I call this the "process of elimination" to narrow down the culprit.

Otherwise I don't think I can offer other solution. My 3G[S] works just fine.
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jul 1 2009, 03:30 PM)
Just received the super slim super sexy Mophie Juice Pack Air from Jacquie just now. Shiny shiny! Compliments the 3G[S] perfectly!

Next up will be the TruePower iV from her, getting it on Sunday once I'm back from Osaka. Highly recommend Jacquie for her items, professional and patient as well. Jacquie, if you're reading this, I really appreciate your patience with me, I am a little impatient when it comes to my things. tongue.gif notworthy.gif

Once I get all three of the extended battery packs, I'll probably do a comparative review between the three. Stay tuned!

Also, Harmeet bro, your cash is with your bro. We went together to meet Jacquie just now. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(harmeet15 @ Jul 1 2009, 03:36 PM)
yup, i heard..and i also heard tat u managed 2 poison my frens thr..tongue.gif
they were saying i shud get 2 sell of their 3g and plan out for 3gS...
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im seriously getting worried abt my bat la..morning 8am, full 100%..3g off, location off, bluetooth off, push off...still it comes down 2 64% at da time of writing...
any of u 3gS owners hving similar prob?
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well, i have to admit that to a certain degree, the battery life in 3G S is better than its predecessor.

however, as i have discussed with tinkerbel, i will still be getting this as a backup, nevertheless
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Also, no more screen protector for me! The oleophobic screen works AWESOME! Fingerprints go away with a simple wipe! thumbup.gif


Added on July 1, 2009, 3:50 pm@nokia

She is beautiful. I hope I don't make her blush on this, she look very nice in her dress. wub.gif

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jul 1 2009, 03:48 PM)
Also, no more screen protector for me! The oleophobic screen works AWESOME! Fingerprints go away with a simple wipe! thumbup.gif


Added on July 1, 2009, 3:50 pm@nokia

She is beautiful. I hope I don't make her blush on this, she look very nice in her dress. wub.gif
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yup. that's when the oakley soft pouch comes in place. i do hope that it works the same for the rest as well hmm.gif hmm.gif hmm.gif

QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jul 1 2009, 03:48 PM)
Also, no more screen protector for me! The oleophobic screen works AWESOME! Fingerprints go away with a simple wipe! thumbup.gif


Added on July 1, 2009, 3:50 pm@nokia

She is beautiful. I hope I don't make her blush on this, she look very nice in her dress. wub.gif
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oh man, macam mana ni? i need to purchase (anything) from her then laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

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@nokia2003,
Eh.. feel free to buy me whatever stringfellow just bought - the white looks nice; that way with it, my iPhone is white, without it, it's black biggrin.gif

Thanks, BRO!
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Buying black Mophie Air against a white 3G[S] will make it look weird. The openings for the volume and silent mode will reveal your back case color. Tak mau zebra leh! tongue.gif

Also, the new Mophie Air has a built-in switch, unlike the old fat Mophie. The switch works as to charge your iPhone when needed. If you dont need to charge, switch it off, and your iPhone draws power from its internal battery. Turn the switch on, and it draws power from the Mophie Air and recharges your iPhone as well. Just plain neat! rclxms.gif

The battery level indicator is there as well on the Mophie Air, so it is easy to check your Mophie battery charge level. I love it! wub.gif

I don't recommend sellers much, but I really have to say Jacquie did a very good job on my transaction. Here is her sales thread, get your Mophie from her, I wholeheartedly recommend her. thumbup.gif

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In that case, get me the Black one instead of the White one biggrin.gif

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When's the other gadget coming in? Will be waiting for the reviews yah biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jul 1 2009, 03:46 PM)
The battery indicator may not be accurate, bro. Even on my old 3G it fluctuates wildly, to a point that it forces ny old Mophie to recharge it even when it is not supposed to.

I can't really say about your query there other than a restore and start from fresh. Don't restore from a backup and monitor your battery drainage. If it works fine, then install apps one at a time and monitor and see if the battery depletes worse than it should. That app may be the culprit. Do it similarly with your jailbreaks. I call this the "process of elimination" to narrow down the culprit.

Otherwise I don't think I can offer other solution. My 3G[S] works just fine.
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@Tink

TruePower iV coming Friday, but I'll still be be in Osaka. Will meet her on Sunday. TruePower iV is bigger and a bit bulky, so unless you are using this as a possible alternative, I dont think you'll like it. But it has 3100mAH power rating compared to the Air's 1200mAH, and the fat Mophie's 1800mAH. The iPhone, IIANM, has a 1800mAH power rating. TruePower is rated to allow:-
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- Up to 72 Hours of Audio Playback
- Up to 21 Hours of Video Playback
- Up to 30 Days of Standby Time


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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jul 1 2009, 04:48 PM)
@Tink

TruePower iV coming Friday, but I'll still be be in Osaka. Will meet her on Sunday. TruePower iV is bigger and a bit bulky, so unless you are using this as a possible alternative, I dont think you'll like it. But it has 3100mAH power rating compared to the Air's 1200mAH, and the fat Mophie's 1800mAH. The iPhone, IIANM, has a 1800mAH power rating. TruePower is rated to allow:-
Also has:-

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Do help me 'poison' my bro to get me the 3gs.

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Hey bro karampal here. Nice meeting with you just now.
Do help me 'poison' my bro to get me the 3gs.
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Hey there, well met! Nice meeting you too! I dont think I need to poison him anymore, the look I saw on his face says it all! laugh.gif Oleophobic, baby!

Managed to take out the Mophie Air from his iPhone? With the Gelaskin, it is a bit tight. Just a fair warning to others who have Gelaskins or other thin "balut" type protection, the Mophie Air may need a little more pushing and shoving to take out if you have it on.


Added on July 1, 2009, 6:03 pmAnybody wants anything from Osaka? Last tine it was about the iClooly but now that case/stand holds my Gameboy Micro instead! laugh.gif Not looking for anything specific really, but am keen to finally buying a better camera than the POS PnS I'm using now. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jul 1 2009, 05:13 PM)
Hey there, well met! Nice meeting you too! I dont think I need to poison him anymore, the look I saw on his face says it all! laugh.gif Oleophobic, baby!

Managed to take out the Mophie Air from his iPhone? With the Gelaskin, it is a bit tight. Just a fair warning to others who have Gelaskins or other thin "balut" type protection,  the Mophie Air may need a little more pushing and shoving to take out if you have it on.


Added on July 1, 2009, 6:03 pmAnybody wants anything from Osaka? Last tine it was about the iClooly but now that case/stand holds my Gameboy Micro instead! laugh.gif Not looking for anything specific really, but am keen to finally buying a better camera than the POS PnS I'm using now. tongue.gif
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yup managed to pull it out after some hard work.
You can't take it out straight coz of the skin. Have to putar putar and take out
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@boring,
I'm not so sure... but perhaps?! *shrugs*

Hey, can we have a bit of input from the other users on this matter, please? biggrin.gif
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Just came across the following in iPhone 3GS information guide as found in the box :

....ability of this oleophobic coating to remove repel oil will diminish over time with normal usage

So enjoy it while it still works and I guess i am going to get PowerSupport Anti Glare screen protector.

String managed to get yours today at KLCC Machines?
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In that case, wanna share?! U don't need 2 tongue.gif
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QUOTE(neekun @ Jul 1 2009, 09:17 PM)
Just came across the following in iPhone 3GS information guide as found in the box :

....ability of this oleophobic coating to remove repel oil will diminish over time with normal usage

So enjoy it while it still works and I guess i am going to get PowerSupport Anti Glare screen protector.

String managed to get yours today at KLCC Machines?
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jul 1 2009, 09:37 PM)
@neekun,
Er.. is that the protector you said comes in 2?!

@stringfellow,
In that case, wanna share?! U don't need 2 tongue.gif
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Machines KLCC ran out of that particular brand. They say that Power Support protector would run out first before the other brand. Must be really good.

@Tink
Sure, I dont mind sharing.
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Er.. is that the protector you said comes in 2?!

@stringfellow,
In that case, wanna share?! U don't need 2 tongue.gif
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Yes it comes in 2 ;-p

QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jul 1 2009, 09:52 PM)
Machines KLCC ran out of that particular brand. They say that Power Support protector would run out first before the other brand. Must be really good.

@Tink
Sure, I dont mind sharing.
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Beavis68 bought the anti glare at Machines just now..maybe he can share share the experience here.
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QUOTE(neekun @ Jul 1 2009, 09:56 PM)
Beavis68 bought the anti glare at Machines just now..maybe he can share share the experience here.
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and is quite easy to clean...n no trace of finger print on d sc after using d iphone
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Singtel replied me...mention iPhone 3G s will be coming real soon in July..they will kept me posted for date to launch...biggrin.gif
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@tinkerbel, not sure why in this case.

Even without sending the message, I can see it will be send as MMS already.

1. Send to only 1 person = SMS

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2. Send to more than 1 person = MMS

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Anyway small matter, I can just disable the MMS via setting. It just a bit inconvenient only. smile.gif
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I got the same bugs too. Did you use the ipcc file given in other thread? Becauz i didnt and maybe there is something wrong with my setting. I guess..

If i disable the MMS setting, i syill can receive MMS. arent i?
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jul 1 2009, 05:13 PM)
Hey there, well met! Nice meeting you too! I dont think I need to poison him anymore, the look I saw on his face says it all! laugh.gif Oleophobic, baby!

Managed to take out the Mophie Air from his iPhone? With the Gelaskin, it is a bit tight. Just a fair warning to others who have Gelaskins or other thin "balut" type protection,  the Mophie Air may need a little more pushing and shoving to take out if you have it on.


Added on July 1, 2009, 6:03 pmAnybody wants anything from Osaka? Last tine it was about the iClooly but now that case/stand holds my Gameboy Micro instead! laugh.gif Not looking for anything specific really, but am keen to finally buying a better camera than the POS PnS I'm using now. tongue.gif
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E-P1 ??. How much in japan ? Why just dont buy here instead ?. They have a special preview on this coming saturday.
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jul 1 2009, 05:13 PM)
Anybody wants anything from Osaka? Last tine it was about the iClooly but now that case/stand holds my Gameboy Micro instead! laugh.gif Not looking for anything specific really, but am keen to finally buying a better camera than the POS PnS I'm using now. tongue.gif
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Oh gosh! Its really the E-P1 ain't it. Hehehe! Thats one beauty! I hope you got the full pack which includes the optical viewfinder, pancake lens and the usual zoom. I was shopping for a compact too but I went cheap tongue.gif and got the LX3.

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E-P1 ??. How much in japan ? Why just dont buy here instead ?. They have a special preview on this coming saturday.
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Apple Releases Beta 3.1 iPhone Firmware and SDK to Developers

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Even with the recent release of iPhone 3.0, Apple is hard at work at the next update: iPhone 3.1. Apple seeded registered developers with a beta version of the firmware and SDK today. Few details were provided as to the improvements to be found in the new firmware. The latest build number is 7C97D.


iPhone OS 3.1 Features: Non-Destructive Video Editing, Voice Control Over Bluetooth and More

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Apple yesterday seeded iPhone OS 3.1 and iPhone SDK 3.1 betas to developers for testing, and users have been digging through the new releases to document new features. Among the changes found so far by readers in our forums, at Redmond Pie, and at MobileCrunch:

- Trimming video clips on the iPhone 3GS now offers the ability to save the edited version as a copy rather than simply overwriting the original file.
- Voice Control over Bluetooth is now available, allowing users to Initiate calls and control music playback via Bluetooth headsets.
- MMS is now enabled by default, but still not supported by AT&T.
- iPhone vibrates when rearranging Home screen icons.
- A "Fraud Protection" toggle is now available in Safari settings.
- iPhone startup and shutdown and app launching times have improved.
- New APIs allow developers of third-party application to access and edit videos.
- OpenGL and Quartz have seen improvements.

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QUOTE(ss_arjuna @ Jul 2 2009, 12:06 AM)
I got the same bugs too. Did you use the ipcc file given in other thread? Becauz i didnt and maybe there is something wrong with my setting. I guess..

If i disable the MMS setting, i syill can receive MMS. arent i?
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iPhone 3G no need to use ipcc file, 2G only need it. I manually entered the information.


Added on July 2, 2009, 1:13 pmEdited:

Look like Apple will address the issue in 3.1, the 3.1 beta come with this note:

Solved the problem of multiple SMS

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Next June/July 2010, Sinyc. Time to go through this very same craziness again, one year from now. I love it! Makes you feel alive! rclxms.gif
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Next June/July 2010, Sinyc. Time to go through this very same craziness again, one year from now. I love it! Makes you feel alive! rclxms.gif
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Yeah but only for rich people, us plebians can't afford to change RM3k phones every year tongue.gif

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Ah well.. perhaps luck will come ur way and U'll strike a lottery *smiles* Then, don't forget to get me a unit too ! biggrin.gif
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Yeah but only for rich people, us plebians can't afford to change RM3k phones every year  tongue.gif
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Depends on how you see it really. I got my 3G[S] for a mere 1.2k, after using the 1.8k I get from selling off the 3G to roll the money around. When you think about it, it is not that expensive. The initial investment may be huge, you might say, but I sold off my EDGE iPhone for RM2k, when I got it for USD299. So that's RM900+ earned, and then rolled onto the 3G model, and then this 3G[S].

The key to gadget-purchasing is never to let it go beyond its "expiry date". That way, the price to let go for will always remain high, or high enough for you not to spend so much on the next similar purchase. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jul 2 2009, 06:12 PM)
The key to gadget-purchasing is never to let it go beyond its "expiry date". That way, the price to let go for will always remain high, or high enough for you not to spend so much on the next similar purchase. icon_rolleyes.gif
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Ah... words of wisdom from the gadget king. I do understand the expiry date issue, I've been doing it with my Macs which is why I'm Macbook less at the moment. biggrin.gif

@tink unfortunately for you I don't do the lottery, but I do submit my Shell contest forms! RM30k is nothing to sneeze at tongue.gif

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@tishaban,
It'll be good if U can find a way to work around that Shell contest and make all of us big winners *smiles* RM30k will be suffice to finance the NEW 2010 iPhone + the trip to NY biggrin.gif
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Taiwan releases 3GS pricing as well. For Pre-paid 32GB at NT$29,900 (RM3,200), 16GB at NT$26,400 (RM2,800). Now let's see what's the upcoming pricing from HK and Singapore...

As for Maxis...god knows when ;p
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Taiwan releases 3GS pricing as well. For Pre-paid 32GB at NT$29,900 (RM3,200), 16GB at NT$26,400 (RM2,800).  Now let's see what's the upcoming pricing from HK and Singapore...

As for Maxis...god knows when ;p
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Actually Singtel is the same thing - god knows when..
They sent a teaser to us who registered in their website for "first hand" details about the pricing and launch..
Basically I am just not happy with the teaser that was sent by the company's vice president without any single bit of information that we have not yet known..
Just wasting resources..
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It's better than nothing I think. But then if nothing happens after that for too long, there might be slight frustration from potential buyers. So you can be assured that Singtel won't want that to happen.

As for Maxis, who knows..
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QUOTE(shdwkillr @ Jul 2 2009, 09:43 PM)
Actually Singtel is the same thing - god knows when..
They sent a teaser to us who registered in their website for "first hand" details about the pricing and launch..
Basically I am just not happy with the teaser that was sent by the company's vice president without any single bit of information that we have not yet known..
Just wasting resources..
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ahhh... you there. if you reckon that is a waste of resources, then you certainly don't know how the business world works.

teasers (not just applicable to iPhones), basically are there to harness interest from the public.

and from there, speculations will start to grow and next thing you know, the hype comes in. glamour shares/stocks (during the colonial times) work exactly on the same basis

part of marketing gimmick and is far from "wasting resources"
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QUOTE(nokia2003 @ Jul 2 2009, 09:47 PM)
ahhh... you there. if you reckon that is a waste of resources, then you certainly don't know how the business world works.

teasers (not just applicable to iPhones), basically are there to harness interest from the public.

and from there, speculations will start to grow and next thing you know, the hype comes in. glamour shares/stocks (during the colonial times) work exactly on the same basis

part of marketing gimmick and is far from "wasting resources"
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Absolutely agree with you.. haha.. "wasting resources" is from us "dead waiting consumers" point of view lor.. haha..
That "registered for first hand information" is already a marketing gimmick from them..
As of last year's 3G launch, Singtel sent a first teaser without any information on pricing and launch date on 6th August, then 2nd email about launching date on 12th August, then the pricing on 19th August, then came the actual launch - 22nd August..
If this stays almost the same, Singtel 3GS launch might possibly be 17th July then.. but, who knows.. LOL
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Currently on 3.0, my i3G often gets overheat when using Safari (3G/WiFi) or while listening to my music. Have you guys encountered this problem?
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Guys I'm still here in KL. Plane broke down and by the time it got fixed, it has exceeded our maximum Flight Duty Period(FDP). Stepped down (to the grumblings of the traffic, crewing and rostering staff no less) and the last I checked, flight delayed to 9am. It is at our discretion to continue of course, but kalau mata sudah merah, would you trust us being fatigued and still flying beyond our hour limits? Accidents waiting to happen there.

Nevertheless, they'll put me on standby after 2pm(yes, that is how limited my test period is), and they can legally call me to go to work if needed. But if luck is on my side and I get off scott-free, I guess I can be at DG's performance this Saturday. w00t! rclxms.gif

Methinks there is a silver lining in all this, including this incident keeping me in KL. "Someone up there" knows I will lose my resolve and cave in to purchasing the E-P1 there in Osaka, when it us cheaper and better to get it here. tongue.gif

Here's to "The Company" leaving me alone. So that I can be at DG's gig this Saturday. flex.gif

EDIT:So much for "The Company" leaving me along. Doing daily Singapore run today, be back by midnight. Squeeze every last drop of sweat from you, man! Nothing so far for tomorrow, so things looking bright for me to be at DG's performance. *fingers crossed*

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guys... i got a pretty shock news... Yesterday when i call to maxis and ask for iphone 3GS, they said mayb about 5 more months only launch in Malaysia... how could it be?!?! i tot Apple already said that Malaysia is on July?
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QUOTE(Eu.Gene @ Jul 3 2009, 08:39 AM)
guys... i got a pretty shock news... Yesterday when i call to maxis and ask for iphone 3GS, they said mayb about 5 more months only launch in Malaysia... how could it be?!?! i tot Apple already said that Malaysia is on July?
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Oo my god!!!! Five more months!!!! Well i think on apple side they actually meant 'expected' to be launch in July and it is up to the operator (maxis) to release it according to the current stock and so forth...
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jul 3 2009, 02:23 AM)
Guys I'm still here in KL. Plane broke down <...>
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Never a good thing to hear that from the pilot/first officer biggrin.gif I had that one time flying the EWR-ARN-KUL 3-4 years ago. That wasn't fun.

OT why the Olympus Pen? I like the concept, have always liked rangefinder style cameras but the lack of a built in flash is turning me off.

More on topic how is the battery life for the 3GS owners out there? Mine went down 8% in 3 hours with about 5 SMS, minor wifi use and no calls. I was expecting much better battery capacity than that...


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@tishaban,
The True iV has got a built-in "flash" so I guess the lack of a built-in flash is fine for string tongue.gif

Speaking of which, can U please check if your MMS works when 3G is turned off - and report back findings at http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1082879


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QUOTE(tishaban @ Jul 3 2009, 09:24 AM)

More on topic how is the battery life for the 3GS owners out there? Mine went down 8% in 3 hours with about 5 SMS, minor wifi use and no calls. I was expecting much better battery capacity than that...
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totally wat i am going thru rite now,
same case bro..i'll hv fully charged my phone in da morning n by noon, its 90 w/o any major usage.. rclxub.gif
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@tishaban & harmeet15,
I'll observe my batt over the weekend. Right now, I have more pressing issues to look into *argh*

PS: My contact sync problem still NOT resolved on 3G S
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jul 3 2009, 09:54 AM)
@tishaban & harmeet15,
I'll observe my batt over the weekend.  Right now, I have more pressing issues to look into *argh*

PS: My contact sync problem still NOT resolved on 3G S
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note tat i am keeping 3g, push, location off most of da times..wifi is used when needed..
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QUOTE(Mike3300 @ Jul 3 2009, 01:44 AM)
Currently on 3.0, my i3G often gets overheat when using Safari (3G/WiFi) or while listening to my music. Have you guys encountered this problem?
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overheat as in? it turned off or feels warm?
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About Maxis launch date - I just spent a couple of hours trying to get hold of a 3G (not S) - Maxis in Alamanda, and Maxis and Apple (Machines) in 1 Utama, were all out of stock and didnt know when they would be getting anymore. None would say anything about launch dates.

Is there normally a stock problem for iphones or is it a sign they are gearing up for 3GS?
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guys i duno im post on d right place / not, just wanna to share d "accident" find out... tongue.gif

Apple has issued a warning on its support pages regarding iPhone 3G and iPhone 3GS overheating, marking the first time the company has officially acknowledged the problem. Reports that the iPhone 3GS is having overheating problems have surfaced last week, merely days after the devices was launched.

Over the last few days, many iPhone 3GS users have been reporting that Apple's new iPhone 3GS is getting abnormally hot when used in various environments. PC World's Melissa J. Perenson noted in her report that she was experiencing the same phenomenon with her new 16GB iPhone 3GS.

Various U.S. gadget sites such as as Gizmodo and Engadget have circulated reports of the same problem, and PC World's Tech Inciter David Coursey, a hot iPhone 3GS owner as well, was even discussing a possible iPhone 3GS recall from Apple. Others have even claimed a discoloration of the iPhone's back cover due to the device running very hot.

Though Apple has not officially acknowledged a problem with the new iPhone 3GS, the company has now issued a warning on its support knowledge base, basically putting the blame on users. The warning prompts users not to leave their phones in a car because temperatures in parked cars can exceed the -20Âş and 45Âş C (-4Âş to 113Âş F) range the iPhone 3G and iPhone 3GS were designed to function in properly.

Apple says in the support article that "if the interior temperature of the device exceeds normal operating temperatures, you may experience the following as it attempts to regulate its temperature: the device stops charging, display dims, and/or weak cellular signal."

Apple also posted an image (above) of an overheated iPhone screenshot with a message that appears when the operating temperature of the devices is too hot. The company says this is a safety mechanism that protects the components of the iPhone 3G/3GS.

Other conditions that Apple deems as possible overheating causes are: leaving the phone in direct sunlight for extended amounts of time or using certain applications in hot conditions or direct sunlight for a long time. An Apple overheating scenario is using GPS tracking in a car on a sunny day or listening to music while in direct sunlight.

Apple further advises hot iPhone 3G and 3GS owners to turn their device off when the above-mentioned temperature warning appears on screen and move it to a cooler environment, allowing the iPhone to cool down before resuming use.

Apple has sold over one million iPhone 3GSs since the device launched on June 19.

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Anyone face the heat issue of iPhone?? sweat.gif

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=15587

http://www.macrumors.com/2009/07/02/concer...ning-publicity/


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Confirmation of Singtel 3G S Iphone launch next week,100709.

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Just a question but how on earth do U check what the current phone temperature is? Mine isn't a jailbroken unit so please don't give me solutions which will need jailbreaking.

Thanks!
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QUOTE(1212345656 @ Jul 3 2009, 09:11 PM)
I experiencing Iphone 3g overheating edi....... Hai scare it will damage my Baby.......... cry.gif  cry.gif
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jul 3 2009, 09:42 PM)
Just a question but how on earth do U check what the current phone temperature is?  Mine isn't a jailbroken unit so please don't give me solutions which will need jailbreaking.

Thanks!
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i've been reading abt tis whole overheating stuff all over da forums and websites...
sm how i am trying 2 figure wat is it tat they do with their phones which can cause it to overheat... rclxub.gif
i tethered da phone and surfed, download updates, etc for few hours... touchwood nothing like tat happened to my precious...
maybe its just a US ting..tongue.gif

and tink, i cant tink of anyway 2 check da phone temp...jb or no jb...neva cm across which can do tat..neva needed to..tongue.gif
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@harmeet15,
Yes exactly! I read in some of the articles/forums we shouldn't be using the phone when it hits X temperature but how on earth do we know what its current temperature is when we don't have a thermostat !! tongue.gif

Well.. as long as it's not happening on my phone, I don't care tongue.gif muAHhaHAHahA LoL
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jul 3 2009, 09:58 PM)
@harmeet15,
Yes exactly!  I read in some of the articles/forums we shouldn't be using the phone when it hits X temperature but how on earth do we know what its current temperature is when we don't have a thermostat !! tongue.gif

Well.. as long as it's not happening on my phone, I don't care tongue.gif muAHhaHAHahA LoL
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u got tat rite..and besides, no one here hv reported abt any such overeating probs...
its just those guys who r hving summer holidays...tongue.gif
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It's summer all year round here though. Maybe we're more likely to face it?
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@harmeet15,
Our numbers are too insignificant for Apple to look at.

@allornothing,
Yes that is true but there's nothing much we can do about it. I only hope the problem is NOT a problem cause I wouldn't want to be sending my unit back to AU sad.gif
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QUOTE(Eu.Gene @ Jul 3 2009, 08:39 AM)
guys... i got a pretty shock news... Yesterday when i call to maxis and ask for iphone 3GS, they said mayb about 5 more months only launch in Malaysia... how could it be?!?! i tot Apple already said that Malaysia is on July?
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i kinda heard dec oso by maxis staff..but well, since singtel launchin nxt week, we keep our fingers crossed dat it wil be launched soon n overcome the heat prob rclxms.gif p/s i doubt maxis staff will kno bout top secret launch dates wink.gif
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Anybody going to see DG play today? I'm going and I could care less with the standby they are forcing me to do. We can kill 3 birds with one stone: the Discovery Week itself, see DG rock it out on stage, and also if anyone wanna test the speed of everything on my 3G[S]. I will also be there with the Mophie Juice Pack Air and the TruePower iV battery pack for 3G[S].

See you guys there! rclxms.gif
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The overheating could be due to "abnormal usage normal" since it's new, when u got a new toy, u tend to spend more time wif it or could it bcoz of the "3G network" on all the time?? just some ideas.

Anyway on the Singtel release, is it reliable? Source? Singtel itself??? If it's true, I could be there in less than 30 mins drive!!!! heeeee
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Guys, my iPhone failed me just now and i think this only happen with the 3.0 OS. cry.gif

As i was travelled back from SG to KL and the whole journey took me around 5hours, thus for sure i was ipod-ing throughout the whole distance. But to my disappointment, the iPhone run out of juice in less than 3.5hours travelling time with 3G/edge totally disable.

Been fully charged the iPhone the night before and minimizing the usage on the day just to prepare for this journey. Who knows, it's still running out of juice. I used to do this previously with 2.2.1 OS and normally it will last till i'm reached home, or even no problem to standby till the next day.

Apple, what you did to the 3.0 OS? cant you don't compromise the feature vs the battery performance?

btw, how's the iPhone3GS battery performance? White to go or black to go? Will consider if the upgrade option from singtel is justify reasonable.


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Every1 is still waiting....


Added on July 4, 2009, 3:56 am@baretta

Ok, google it up. Lotsa website are reporting it while it mentioned pricing will be out early nex week. However, they don't sell it outright (prepaid plan) under the 3G, let's hope they do now!

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QUOTE(mONSTers @ Jul 4 2009, 02:35 AM)
Guys, my iPhone failed me just now and i think this only happen with the 3.0 OS.  cry.gif

As i was travelled back from SG to KL and the whole journey took me around 5hours, thus for sure i was ipod-ing throughout the whole distance. But to my disappointment, the iPhone run out of juice in less than 3.5hours travelling time with 3G/edge totally disable.

Been fully charged the iPhone the night before and minimizing the usage on the day just to prepare for this journey. Who knows, it's still running out of juice. I used to do this previously with 2.2.1 OS and normally it will last till i'm reached home, or even no problem to standby till the next day.

Apple, what you did to the 3.0 OS? cant you don't compromise the feature vs the battery performance?

btw, how's the iPhone3GS battery performance? White to go or black to go? Will consider if the upgrade option from singtel is justify reasonable.
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did you turn off push email? i notice because of out crappy phone coverage, if Mail.app starts to pull for emails and gets cut off due to poor signal, it will continue to "search & pull" and keep the radio on hence draining the battery. i notice that when i launch mail.app and force kill it then problem solved. it happened with 2.2.1 but i notice less with 3.0 now.


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QUOTE(deepan84 @ Jul 3 2009, 10:33 PM)
i kinda heard dec oso by maxis staff..but well, since singtel launchin nxt week, we keep our fingers crossed dat it wil be launched soon n overcome the heat prob rclxms.gif p/s i doubt maxis staff will kno bout top secret launch dates wink.gif
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If true this is again in my opinion another stupid move similar to launching the iPhone 3G in March/ April 09. By Dec, everybody who wanted a 3GS would probably have got their hands on an unlocked model already. Those left behind might be stuck with their 2 year contract with maxis and unable to upgrade.

Am seriously considering HK/AU/NZ model if no word from maxis withiin july...

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really love tethering function,especially at a area where the 3G signal is strong! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ Jul 4 2009, 08:31 AM)
really love tethering function,especially at a area where the 3G signal is strong! biggrin.gif
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cudnt agree more with u mate...

user posted image

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one is with 3g da other with edge...
and im very impressed
very stable connection, no fluctuation in speed...just awesome
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QUOTE(sinyc @ Jul 4 2009, 08:04 AM)
did you turn off push email? i notice because of out crappy phone coverage, if Mail.app starts to pull for emails and gets cut off due to poor signal, it will continue to "search & pull" and keep the radio on hence draining the battery. i notice that when i launch mail.app and force kill it then problem solved. it happened with 2.2.1 but i notice less with 3.0 now.
Probably there are 2 possible causes of the battery draining issue (my guess).

As last nite having difficulties in re-charging my iPhone. The battery keep on draining and it wont fully charge.

So i removed the fake APN profile (previously install to fully disable the network connection) and this morning the iPhone is fully charge already.

Im connected to home WiFi network and suddenly the BeejiveIm pop-up a message telling my MSN is logged off.

So my guess, BeejiveIm is trying to get connection after i've installed the fake APN and this cause the battery to drain so fast!

Well, i dont have time to retry the above setting so that's just my guess. Next time, still better to log-off BeejiveIM whenever not use.
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David,

Should we open up another thread for Singtel 3GS set?
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Anybody going to the Mac DiscoveryWeek in Midvalley? I just received my FastMac TruePower iV from Jacquie. Im going there now with the old Mophie Juice Pack, the new sexy Mophie Juice Pack Air, and if anyone is interested in pistol-grip FullHD camcorder, I'll be recording DG rocking it out with the Xacti HD1000. All these items, for your own discovery, in addition with the stuff at the event is available for your perusal.

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Added on July 4, 2009, 2:14 pmHoly crap! One very obvious reason why I hate MV. Crowded like hell! Damn!

Tink, if you want a piece of the PowerSupport screen protector, I got em. The pack got three pieces inside.

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i will see u there string~ me wans molent molest 3GS biggrin.gif

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Just found out this after received sms from Maxis.

Does Maxis really know what they're talking about? rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(teikwing @ Jul 3 2009, 10:22 AM)
overheat as in? it turned off or feels warm?
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Feels kinda warm while using, especially when using push email.

Maybe that MMS settings Maxis offer is for those who don't use officially unlocked Maxis units as for us the officially unlocked with Maxis active line, the carrier update in iTunes will have those settings already so the iPhone is ready to go. There's no settings to mess inside and be found inside the iPhone's settings, it's taken care of.
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QUOTE(Mike3300 @ Jul 4 2009, 04:16 PM)
Feels kinda warm while using, especially when using push email.

Maybe that MMS settings Maxis offer is for those who don't use officially unlocked Maxis units as for us the officially unlocked with Maxis active line, the carrier update in iTunes will have those settings already so the iPhone is ready to go. There's no settings to mess inside and be found inside the iPhone's settings, it's taken care of.
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i think slightly warm is normal. been gaming a lot lately and it feels warm too. but i gotta admit the battery life is worse ever since update to 3.0. used to be on 2.2 and on normal usage, battery can last up to 1 day plus but now it drains out in less than 24 hours.
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F**king awesome show, Altered Frequency brought down the house at the Mac+iPod Discovery Week in Midvalley! Videos to prove it later, DG you are officially in my books the coolest bassist and moderator I've ever known.

Altered Frequency even played TWO songs using the iPod Touch! Thunderous cheers, baby! You guys f**king ROCK!
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jul 4 2009, 07:05 PM)
F**king awesome show, Altered Frequency brought down the house at the Mac+iPod Discovery Week in Midvalley! Videos to prove it later, DG you are officially in my books the coolest bassist and moderator I've ever known.

Altered Frequency even played TWO songs using the iPod Touch! Thunderous cheers, baby! You guys f**king ROCK!
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waiting for the videos! drool.gif
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@stringfellow,
I got the Power Support screen protector from beavis68 oredi so no need to share urs *smiles* but thanks biggrin.gif But I still wanna have a look at that Mophie Juice Pack Air! So, where U gonna be hanging out tomorrow? *smiles*

@davidgary73,
WooHoOOoO... I can't wait for the videos and sorry I couldn't make it; Hunt day today tongue.gif
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@Tink

I'll be at Midvalley again tomorrow, at the Mac+iPod Discovery Week, for the Logic Express presentation.........by our own DG! rclxm9.gif

I'll bring all three, the old Mophie Juice Pack, Mophie Juice Pack Air and the just received FastMac TruePower iV, tomorrow if you are coming.


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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jul 4 2009, 09:06 PM)
@stringfellow,
I got the Power Support screen protector from beavis68 oredi so no need to share urs *smiles* but thanks biggrin.gif  But I still wanna have a look at that Mophie Juice Pack Air! So, where U gonna be hanging out tomorrow? *smiles*

@davidgary73,
WooHoOOoO... I can't wait for the videos and sorry I couldn't make it; Hunt day today tongue.gif
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tink,
if u think u r going to get morphie juice pack air, then u should give up wrapping d iphone 3GS with d invisible skin, coz after wrapping d skin it can't fit into d morphie...
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@beavis68,
Er.. so U wanna let go the brand new Mophie Juice Pack Air to me at RM70 discount? *smiles* Or did U decide to unwrap ur phone?!

@stringfellow,
I take it that you're going to be there the whole day?! I could drop in after I'm done at Parkson 1U ; might as well go support DG's demo presentation and learn something new biggrin.gif

So... found my charger oredi or not?! In fact, can U start charging the BT so I can use it immediately? MUahAHahHAhahA [a bit too much hor me?!] tongue.gif
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DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT use the Mophie Juice Pack Air with any full-body protective film, or even Gelaskin on it. Harmeet's bro had a tough time separating the Mophie Air from the iPhone that has a Gelaskin layer on its back.

Sigh.....I wanted to do the review of the the two new battery packs with better pictures, using the E-P1, but that damned thing is launching later than I expected. mad.gif

Tonight while I'm uploading the videos, I'll do the search for the charger, Tink. Pray that I can find it among the messy noodles of wires and charger cables I have stuffed away. flex.gif

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@beavis68,
Er.. so U wanna let go the brand new Mophie Juice Pack Air to me at RM70 discount? *smiles*  Or did U decide to unwrap ur phone?!

@stringfellow,
I take it that you're going to be there the whole day?!  I could drop in after I'm done at Parkson 1U ; might as well go support DG's demo presentation and learn something new biggrin.gif

So... found my charger oredi or not?!  In fact, can U start charging the BT so I can use it immediately? MUahAHahHAhahA [a bit too much hor me?!] tongue.gif
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actually i didn't unwrap d skin........ i just force it in....but when come to taking out part....(it take me 30minute to force it out)........now thinking either to pull d morphie so it become bigger to fit my i3gs or maybe next time before i fit d i3gs into morphie..i better apply some grease or oil on morphie....
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@stringfellow,
If U don't find the charger then just bring a BT unit that has a charger in tact and that is not too bad tongue.gif

Yeah I read about the warning from harmeet's bro re the Gelaskin + Mophie Juice Pack Air. I haven't any protective gear on mine; just the screen protector *smiles*

@beavis86,
Er.. pull the Mophie Juice Pack Air?! Er.. U think it's a cotton tee is it?! tongue.gif Oil?! Er.. U might as well either NOT use the Mophic Juice Pack Air OR take off the skin lah tongue.gif
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jul 4 2009, 10:00 PM)
@stringfellow,
If U don't find the charger then just bring a BT unit that has a charger in tact and that is not too bad tongue.gif

Yeah I read about the warning from harmeet's bro re the Gelaskin + Mophie Juice Pack Air.  I haven't any protective gear on mine; just the screen protector *smiles*

@beavis86,
Er.. pull the Mophie Juice Pack Air?! Er.. U think it's a cotton tee is it?! tongue.gif  Oil?! Er.. U might as well either NOT use the Mophic Juice Pack Air OR take off the skin lah tongue.gif
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i heard my name here..tongue.gif
my bro came back home 2day n left da juice pack in nilai...i'll be heading thr 2molo or day after n wud try it out... for safety reasons, i had a temporary thin skin on it...wud be removing it and then trying it..biggrin.gif
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i cudnt stop myself and went over 2 the dark side...jb my 3gs d....
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maxis will launch iphone 3G[S] this end of the month
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maxis will launch iphone 3G[S] this end of the month
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what??? sighs.... wait some more, hmmm I'll check out singtel launch next week
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Eh guys, how much is the mophie juice pack air?
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jul 4 2009, 07:05 PM)
F**king awesome show, Altered Frequency brought down the house at the Mac+iPod Discovery Week in Midvalley! Videos to prove it later, DG you are officially in my books the coolest bassist and moderator I've ever known.

Altered Frequency even played TWO songs using the iPod Touch! Thunderous cheers, baby! You guys f**king ROCK!
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I couldn't agree more! rclxms.gif My friend and I were completely blown away when they played using the iPod Touch thumbup.gif notworthy.gif
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Thanks string, xaw5126 and Hanxz for attending the gig and thank you fumjusta for turning up to tho i did not manage to meet up v you.

We had a blast and had lot's of fun playing the iPod Touch. Truly an awesome gig. Check it out @ http://www.discoveryweek.com.my/

Glad you guys enjoyed our show and later is Logic Express presentation @ 2pm, Centre Court. Need to head over to MidValley by 11am to setup. Hope to see some new faces if you're coming over. String and tinkerbel will be, having the 3GS if you wanna see em up front.

Well, good nite and God Bless.

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string recommended Jacquie and if I ain't mistaken her asking price is RM300 biggrin.gif
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hi sis, is there any problem with iphone 3g s Australia set so far? coz i'm going to bid for one at ebay. pls advise
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Videos recording on the iPhone 3G[S] of the rockin' performances at the Mac+iPod Discovery Week in Midvalley is up, folks! Here's a teaser:-

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Yes, featuring our very own DavidGary and his band, Altered Frequency! rclxms.gif

Point your mice and click here!

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I know a review is overdue for the two battery packs, Mophie Juice Pack Air and the FastMac TruePower iV, but I am waiting to get a proper camera to do this. It will be up soon for everyone's perusal later, for these two packs, in comparison with the old Mophie pack.

Beavis, how about you post your take on your battery pack?

Personally, with the advent of OS3.0 draining juice like hell, these packs are essential, to me at least. Mophie Juice Pack Air adds little bulk, and acts as a case as well. I don't want having to tailor my daily usage pattern to fit into these battery drainages.


Added on July 5, 2009, 9:25 pmJust observed something really worrying. My 3G[S] is 3.0(obviously), and I was running iPod on the background listening to Linkin Park, while blasting the undeads in Doom Resurrection and also have the push notification on.

After exiting, noticed that even with the Mophie Air on, the internal iPhone battery is partially depleted. Looks like the power drainage from doing those 3 activities at the same time, is more than the rate at which the Mophie Air can recharge! It us showing the "recharging" icon now. Weird that the 3G[S] doesn't draw the needed power from the Mophie Air but instead depletes it's own battery. unsure.gif

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No problems with the AU units; in fact most of us here are using the AU units biggrin.gif

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hMm.... that's not a good sign is it?! But at the v least U have True iV to the rescue biggrin.gif
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Worrying, yup. I hope Apple fix this on 3.1, because if this means all that activities will deplete the internal battery faster than even if the actual charger is connected! Wow, that much of a power drain? hmm.gif
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I haven't been able to test battery health on my unit but *grins* let's hope you're wrong and something just went wrong today smile.gif In the meantime, I'm gonna start testing the BT *smiles*

Thanks again biggrin.gif

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Check your App updates, fellas. Among the 8 I have today, one of them is Beejive 3.0.1.9. Hopefully this will once and for all fix the multitude of problems on that App.

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