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post May 9 2009, 06:10 PM, updated 17y ago

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The Nikon D40 is an all new affordable, compact, point-and-shoot digital SLR from Nikon, it follows on from the D50 but at a significantly lower price point and with a subtly different feature set. The biggest news however is probably fact that Nikon resisted the temptation to keep chasing megapixels (hooray for that) and instead appear to have concentrated on what makes a good camera, a decent viewfinder, short shutter lag, very short viewfinder blackout. They've trimmed some of the 'less important features' (you can't change the exposure steps for example) but have squeezed a range of new features such as custom Auto ISO which we welcomed with the D80.
Review of D40
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The Nikon D40 was announced just under four months ago, and yet here we are with a new version of that camera. The D40X has the same compact lightweight body and easy to use control layout, in fact the only external physical difference is the badge. Under the bonnet Nikon has swapped out the D40's six megapixel CCD for a ten megapixel unit, this also provides a lower base sensitivity of ISO 100 and must utilize dual readout because continuous shooting frame rate has gone up from 2.5 fps to 3.0 fps. Based on the specs and features this camera is clearly aiming to knock the EOS 400D (Digital Rebel XTi) off its pedestal.


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D60 is a 10.2MP digital camera that will look and feel remarkably familiar to users of the D40X. It includes an anti-dust system that incorporates a self-cleaning sensor unit that shakes off dust, coupled with an airflow system designed to channel dust away from the sensor. The model also adds active d-lighting, a stop-motion recording mode and Expeed branding.


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The idea of an upper-entry-level DSLR (for want of a better term), that sits below the 'enthusiast' grade D90 (with its twin control dials, big battery and pentaprism viewfinder), is hardly a radical one - the Canon 500D and Olympus E-620 seem to cater to a similar market.


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1st?


Added on May 9, 2009, 6:31 pmno ppl wanna post in the v5 ka?

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post May 9 2009, 06:33 PM

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lol...i take 2nd...should merge d5000 and d90 into this lol..
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post May 9 2009, 06:59 PM

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QUOTE(AlphaBeta @ May 9 2009, 06:33 PM)
lol...i take 2nd...should merge d5000 and d90 into this lol..
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d5000 can join them.. but i think d90 should join with d80...
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post May 9 2009, 07:02 PM

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wow, v5 already. thumbup.gif
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post May 9 2009, 07:04 PM

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wah all old timers only..
where r the newbs....

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post May 9 2009, 07:10 PM

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post May 9 2009, 07:22 PM

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Congratz on V5! thumbup.gif I'm using D60, my next target is a flash! But under strict budget of RM400+-. I want to get SB600 but money not enough sweat.gif By the way, I tried my cousin's Nissin Di622 that she used for her Canon 450D, it cannot function on my D60. Why?
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QUOTE(AlphaBeta @ May 9 2009, 06:33 PM)
lol...i take 2nd...should merge d5000 and d90 into this lol..
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But there is a D5000 thread already wor~~


Added on May 9, 2009, 7:35 pm
QUOTE(Firdaus92 @ May 9 2009, 07:22 PM)
Congratz on V5! thumbup.gif I'm using D60, my next target is a flash! But under strict budget of RM400+-. I want to get SB600 but money not enough sweat.gif By the way, I tried my cousin's Nissin Di622 that she used for her Canon 450D, it cannot function on my D60. Why?
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bcos there nikon mount and canon mount is different..

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QUOTE(razuryza @ May 9 2009, 06:59 PM)
d5000 can join them.. but i think d90 should join with d80...
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d80 thread is dead lol...
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QUOTE(kimurastanley @ May 9 2009, 07:33 PM)
But there is a D5000 thread already wor~~


Added on May 9, 2009, 7:35 pm

bcos there nikon mount and canon mount is different..
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cannot use as in what?
of coz u cant use ettl on ur nikon ittl...
but i m sure it does fire in manual mode at least...
if i m not mistaken...canon is also using ISO hot shoe...
so it shud fit...
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post May 9 2009, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(project-o @ May 9 2009, 09:16 PM)
Still using my D40 here and happy shooting with it.
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welcome to D40/D60 thread rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(kimurastanley @ May 9 2009, 09:20 PM)
welcome to D40/D60 thread  rclxm9.gif
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Nice of you to create the new thread. Please remove my name from the D40X owner's list... cuz....

1) I don't have it with me any more... it's been returned to its original owner tongue.gif
2) The D40X was never mine to begin with

So theoretically the D90 is my first DSLR tongue.gif
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QUOTE(razuryza @ May 9 2009, 06:59 PM)
d5000 can join them.. but i think d90 should join with d80...
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yes. i do agree.. D5000 because no internal af motor, so can join d40 geng..

d90 join d80
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How's your D90 DBaboon ? Hope you like it... I'm planning to go for that also .... but I will be keeping my D40 as a spare body.
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Nice of you to create the new thread. Please remove my name from the D40X owner's list... cuz....

1) I don't have it with me any more... it's been returned to its original owner  tongue.gif
2) The D40X was never mine to begin with

So theoretically the D90 is my first DSLR  tongue.gif
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woooh!! v5!!! i've always said that i wanted to upgrade but till now. still nothing. but, my old d40 is still serving me good. biggrin.gif
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wanna get d90..d90 how much?

but i got d60 + Tamron 17-50mm f/2.8 + cybertik flash instead..
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So many user had upgraded
I wish I can too...
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QUOTE(alpha_company @ May 10 2009, 01:24 AM)
wanna get d90..d90 how much?

but i got d60 + Tamron 17-50mm f/2.8 + cybertik flash instead..
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omg alpha_company, since u bought d60 u have been asking for lenses/flashes/batteries and now not even 1 month i think..and u wanna upgrade? Rich thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(AlphaBeta @ May 10 2009, 01:31 AM)
omg alpha_company, since u bought d60 u have been asking for lenses/flashes/batteries and now not even 1 month i think..and u wanna upgrade? Rich  thumbup.gif
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Rich ppl
May be his poison is too deep already, cant control himself
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post May 10 2009, 01:39 AM

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By the way, my poison is also very deep...
Always thinking of upgrading only bout 2 months bought D60 doh.gif
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^why do u need to upgrade? is there something limiting u now? if no..then no need la..haha
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QUOTE(AlphaBeta @ May 10 2009, 01:31 AM)
omg alpha_company, since u bought d60 u have been asking for lenses/flashes/batteries and now not even 1 month i think..and u wanna upgrade? Rich  thumbup.gif
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hehe.. no la..

if i get d90 then i cant get the famous tamron 17-50 f2.8

if i get d60 i can get that lens..cari makan lens some say.. biggrin.gif

sold my kit lens..and got 55-200vr on the 1st day.

almost a week ago sold my 55-200 VR and bought 17-50 tammy and flash.

tomorrow maybe sanyo eneloop batteries + charger

next maybe a waist bag.

If i get d90 can't spend much on other things..

got money to spend on d90 + lenses but i think d60 is enough for making money already.. i like doing HDR photos.. got people calling me askin me to teach them HDR..hehe.. like it's so hard..


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QUOTE(AlphaBeta @ May 10 2009, 01:47 AM)
^why do u need to upgrade? is there something limiting u now? if no..then no need la..haha
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u got 70-200 VRII ?? waaaa.. how much ? new or 2nd? really want la that lens.. hmmm

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QUOTE(alpha_company @ May 10 2009, 01:56 AM)
hehe.. no la..

if i get d90 then i cant get the famous tamron 17-50 f2.8

if i get d60 i can get that lens..cari makan lens some say.. biggrin.gif

sold my kit lens..and got 55-200vr on the 1st day.

almost a week ago sold my 55-200 VR and bought 17-50 tammy and flash.

tomorrow maybe sanyo eneloop batteries + charger

next maybe a waist bag.

If i get d90 can't spend much on other things..

got money to spend on d90 + lenses but i think d60 is enough for making money already.. i like doing HDR photos.. got people calling me askin me to teach them HDR..hehe.. like it's so hard..


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u got 70-200 VRII ?? waaaa.. how much ? new or 2nd? really want la that lens.. hmmm
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in my wish list only...lol.. laugh.gif
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nikon 18-200 VRII and tamron 18-270 VC...which one better?
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QUOTE(alpha_company @ May 10 2009, 02:08 AM)
nikon 18-200 VRII and tamron 18-270 VC...which one better?
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hehe, Dppreview has a good review on the Tamron saying it at least as good as Nikkor 18-200mm
u can see the photos taken by Tamron here.
I also have the same dilemma.. blush.gif

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how much for 18-200 and 18-270?


Added on May 10, 2009, 3:09 amI eventually ended up returning mine on my Nikon mount. As much as I love the range and optical quality, the indecisive AF is unbearable when it couldn't find focus on a black duck on a pond.

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I was quoted a D60 at Sg wang for bout RM1800. Do you think it's a rip off?
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i think is a good price...depend on the package of course...should be standard 4g memory card and a normal bag...
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post May 10 2009, 10:01 PM

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so not joining D5000 into this thread?
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but there's a D5000 thread already..
wat do u guys think?
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QUOTE(kimurastanley @ May 10 2009, 10:25 PM)
but there's a D5000 thread already..
wat do u guys think?
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Ask the mods... if they agree, just incorporate the information into this thread and close that thread. Too many new threads. If there's a new thread for each and every camera that's released pretty soon all the threads are gonna so watered down.
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i think all nikon thread should be gathered up..juz like Sony and Canon.
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D5000 should be here as it's another non-motorized body, and i think should be replacing all low-end nikon dslrs
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QUOTE(AlphaBeta @ May 10 2009, 10:40 PM)
i think all nikon thread should be gathered up..juz like Sony and Canon.
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I agree with that. It was discussed last time. Got pros and cons.

But some users from the higher end body thread opposes the suggestion.
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I agree with that. It was discussed last time. Got pros and cons.

But some users from the higher end body thread opposes the suggestion.
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I think they're worried that some high school kid with third hand D40 and cruddy kit lens may post mind blowing pictures that will spank their D3's silly cry.gif . By having seperate thread, they can at least pretend they didn't see the pics. rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(HiroBoroi @ May 11 2009, 12:52 AM)
I think they're worried that some high school kid with third hand D40 and cruddy kit lens may post mind blowing pictures that will spank their D3's silly  cry.gif . By having seperate thread, they can at least pretend they didn't see the pics.  rclxm9.gif
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one of the reason too..

btw, i guess just leave all those high end slr threads and keep d60/d40/d40x/d5000 thread separate.

I know canon and sony have all in one threads but i need to remind you guys that d60/d40/d40x/d5000 has NO INTERNAL AF MOTOR and thus require a thread of it's own.


Added on May 11, 2009, 2:35 am
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I was quoted a D60 at Sg wang for bout RM1800. Do you think it's a rip off?
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what sure ar rm1800? that's sound like it's kind of too good to be true..
-must have 4gb nikon SDHC
-bag (newer stock got leather nikon professional bag)
-18-55 lens (older stock got VR and newer stock dont have VR)
-make sure nikon MALAYSIA warranty

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QUOTE(AlphaBeta @ May 10 2009, 10:40 PM)
i think all nikon thread should be gathered up..juz like Sony and Canon.
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its this topic again...
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congratz on V5! wink.gif

now less shooting with my d40x doh.gif
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why less shooting already?

your 70-300mm is not VR right?
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QUOTE(alpha_company @ May 11 2009, 01:32 PM)
why less shooting already?

your 70-300mm is not VR right?
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is not VR, need MF, but quite fun also biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Mavik @ May 11 2009, 02:04 PM)
Must always shoot then can always improve biggrin.gif
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less go out for shooting, guess too lazy. laugh.gif
unless went out for trip biggrin.gif

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is not VR, need MF, but quite fun also biggrin.gif
less go out for shooting, guess too lazy. laugh.gif
unless went out for trip biggrin.gif
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Don't need trips to shoot mah. Shoot everyday life and you would be surprised how much you can actually capture smile.gif
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QUOTE(Mavik @ May 11 2009, 02:29 PM)
Don't need trips to shoot mah. Shoot everyday life and you would be surprised how much you can actually capture smile.gif
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I do, but getting lesser now maybe because after came back from work very tired and need to rest. laugh.gif
Well, sometimes tempted by the lovely clouds and also the bright sky I'll take some shots. Just never process the shots after that. sweat.gif
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Alpha Company, why u say new stock D60 kit lens don't have VR?Is it true? sweat.gif
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Alpha Company, why u say new stock D60 kit lens don't have VR?Is it true? sweat.gif
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main cakap je tu.. all d60 kit lens got vr laa
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Alpha Company, why u say new stock D60 kit lens don't have VR?Is it true? sweat.gif
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I wonder too. I thought all kit lens should have VR for D60.
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QUOTE(Firdaus92 @ May 11 2009, 04:02 PM)
Alpha Company, why u say new stock D60 kit lens don't have VR?Is it true? sweat.gif
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yes it is true ..but there are still many older stocks available at shops.. it is so very new that nobody even notices. this happens when d5000 came out and nikon malaysia decided to make the 18-55 VR a D5000 kit lens and used the lens that came before VR on the D60. I do need to remind you guys that there are three AF-S 18-55 versions.

Those older stocks of D60 comes with VR lens but a normal nikon sling bag if im not mistaken (can anyone confirm about the bag?)

Newer d60 models have the previous 18-55 lens that came out before the VR version. but nikon malaysia gave a black leather nikon professional bag. much2 bigger and have a lot of space.

some might say this is wrong but i've got the box to prove it. the box states the lens version included. the older stock have the RED VR on top of it.

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main cakap je tu.. all d60 kit lens got vr laa
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i dont just make accusations without proof. you dont have proof..so u kot yang main cakap whistling.gif

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QUOTE(alpha_company @ May 12 2009, 03:01 AM)
yes it is true ..but there are still many older stocks available at shops.. it is so very new that nobody even notices. this happens when d5000 came out and nikon malaysia decided to make the 18-55 VR a D5000 kit lens and used the lens that came before VR on the D60. I do need to remind you guys that there are three AF-S 18-55 versions.

Those older stocks of D60 comes with VR lens but a normal nikon sling bag if im not mistaken (can anyone confirm about the bag?)

Newer d60 models have the previous 18-55 lens that came out before the VR version. but nikon malaysia gave a black leather nikon professional bag. much2 bigger and have a lot of space.

some might say this is wrong but i've got the box to prove it. the box states the lens version included. the older stock have the RED VR on top of it.

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i dont just make accusations without proof. you dont have proof..so u kot yang main cakap  whistling.gif
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aah.. main cakap je.. saya salah.. maafkan saye.. notworthy.gif what to do..tak penah ade... laugh.gif

anyway.. how u know.. old stok or new stock? sometime.. its different country punya stock... so.. the package is different.. last time i saw d80 with twin lens package u kno....

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i say it's new stock because:

1. the shopkeeper told me that their d60 stock finish and just got new stock. he said previously it has VR lens but now don't have anymore.

2. you can ask anybody and they will say that d60 WILL come with 18-55 VR lens. it is just very recently, a few weeks before D5000 comes out, that the new D60 stock arrives with the older 18-55 lens and the 18-55 VR goes to the D5000 kit.

3. you can ask any sellers here in trade zone, and some of them already has the newer stock with the older 18-55 lens + nikon pro leather shoulder bag.

4. yes malaysian d80 kit comes with one 18-135mm lens but in other countries like the US, there are more kit lens options to choose something like Sony Alpha series.

5. There are foreign D60 kits that has two lenses 18-55VR + 55-200 VR if i'm not mistaken. there are also a gold version of D60 that has golden shutter button & also a golden D60 plate in front of the camera. even d90 got different lens package in other countries.

6. if different country punya stock, they won't have warranty by Nikon Malaysia. if different country punya stock, it wont have a warranty card stating "NIKON MALAYSIA" on it.
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can i know where stilll can buy D40X?
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D40X already discontinue..unless you can find second hand.. smile.gif
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retail shop also cannot find ?T.T...
btw,how much for this dlsr?
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i bought that time is 2.4k include some accessories, that was 1 n half years ago...
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juz bought 1 D60 in last week. the new batch of D60 DOESN'T come with VR lens. free with nikon pro bag (big!) & nikon 4GB sd card..

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well u don't really need vr with an 18-55 anyway.
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QUOTE(omg528 @ May 12 2009, 09:05 AM)
can i know where stilll can buy D40X?
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if you want to have 10mp camera under 2k. i suggest going for D60. if you want higher flash sync 1/500, then go for D40

Either get D40 or D60.

If you want D90 kinda performance without internal AF motor, get D5000. but this costs more.


Added on May 12, 2009, 2:27 pm
QUOTE(JKEC @ May 12 2009, 12:43 PM)
juz bought 1 D60 in last week. the new batch of D60 DOESN'T come with VR lens. free with nikon pro bag (big!) & nikon 4GB sd card..
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you see razuryza ... see what i mean.

and ' or 1=1 -- is right. some even say that even 70mm below dont need VR. and btw, the comparison of the two 18-55 lens are in kenrockwell's page. he tested and said that 18-55 VR is almost exactly the same.

It is most useful and significant for 70mm and above. Like 55-200 VR, 18-200VR II, 70-300 VR II.

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Now having 2 bodies seems so different... One more for gathering photos, another one for events
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QUOTE(' or 1=1 -- @ May 12 2009, 01:12 PM)
well u don't really need vr with an 18-55 anyway.
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aiyoyo....can't wait to get my d40.... should be getting it in two weeks time...

any tips on getting started with my d40?
hehe.....
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Now having 2 bodies seems so different... One more for gathering photos, another one for events
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u'll be amazed what VR can do in low lights.. even at 18mm
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u mean D90 more for gathering photos?
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yeah.. u can handheld up to couples seconds u know.. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ May 12 2009, 02:52 PM)
aiyoyo....can't wait to get my d40.... should be getting it in two weeks time...

any tips on getting started with my d40?
hehe.....
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start shooting.. hehe biggrin.gif

btw, get a flash first.. either 3rd party cybertik mz45 or nissin or nikon sb600 which is more costly.


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how much does d60 kitlens cost?  hmm.gif
jz asking  tongue.gif
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which one? the VR or non VR?

sold off my kitlens and bought tamron 17-50 f2.8.. seen how the VR can do in low lights? then see how the f2.8 do in low lights at 50mm

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the 17-50mm tamron is worth for the money.

Though shooting at f2.8 in the zoom range would be my choice...
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QUOTE(alpha_company @ May 12 2009, 03:56 PM)
start shooting.. hehe biggrin.gif

btw, get a flash first.. either 3rd party cybertik mz45 or nissin or nikon sb600 which is more costly.


Added on May 12, 2009, 3:58 pm

which one? the VR or non VR?

sold off my kitlens and bought tamron 17-50 f2.8.. seen how the VR can do in low lights? then see how the f2.8 do in low lights at 50mm
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VR kitlens biggrin.gif

never see the performance before.. sweat.gif
of coz f2.8 will be better biggrin.gif
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yeah...me going to get SB600 since many ppl recommended...
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maybe i can start shooting and then post up the pics and ask what went wrong with my shots...
boy oh boy.... now very excited dee....hehe...

alpha dude,
can post some pics with tamron lens that u bought? and maybe post pics using the normal kitlens...
i wanna see the difference between 18-55 kitlens vs 17-55 f2.8 tamron...

thanks...

QUOTE(alpha_company @ May 12 2009, 03:56 PM)
start shooting.. hehe biggrin.gif

btw, get a flash first.. either 3rd party cybertik mz45 or nissin or nikon sb600 which is more costly.
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a good flash is a good investment....u can see a lot of diff especially indoor shot..
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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ May 12 2009, 05:18 PM)
yeah...me going to get SB600 since many ppl recommended...
rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif

maybe i can start shooting and then post up the pics and ask what went wrong with my shots...
boy oh boy.... now very excited dee....hehe...

alpha dude,
can post some pics with tamron lens that u bought? and maybe post pics using the normal kitlens...
i wanna see the difference between 18-55 kitlens vs 17-55 f2.8 tamron...

thanks...
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LOL. There will be huge difference between these two lenses. You can't compare them both and of course the f/2.8 fare better.
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QUOTE(JKEC @ May 12 2009, 12:43 PM)
juz bought 1 D60 in last week. the new batch of D60 DOESN'T come with VR lens. free with nikon pro bag (big!) & nikon 4GB sd card..
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Nikon D60 Kit definately come with 18-55 VR,unless they change it and sell cheaper price
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QUOTE(wcs2798 @ May 12 2009, 07:06 PM)
Nikon D60 Kit definately come with 18-55 VR,unless they change it and sell cheaper price
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please read previous pages lar doh.gif .. Nikon made three 18-55 lens.

1. AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G ED
2. AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G ED II
3. AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G VR

NEW STOCK of D60 from NIKON MALAYSIA has the no.2 lens.

OLDER STOCK BEFORE D5000 came out has the VR lens.
NEW STOCK about a few weeks before D5000 came out has EDII version.
D5000 now has the 18-55 VR lens version.

Price of dslr has risen but still can get the new stock of D60 under RM2k. Just to remind everybody, this bag comes with a very spacious Leather Nikon Professional sling bag.


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QUOTE(rukawa @ May 12 2009, 05:05 PM)
the 17-50mm tamron is worth for the money.

Though shooting at f2.8 in the zoom range would be my choice...
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What's the difference between the ED II and the older?
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alpha.. u r correct.
i purchased the new d60 w/ kit lens which is exactly the same pic u posted.
i dunno what is ED II means? better? lagi baik? or market strategy from nikon? hmm.gif
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oh, cant imagine Nikon change the kit lens for D60..
May be the cheaper price of the lens is compensated by the more pricey leather bag, so the price is still the same
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QUOTE(JKEC @ May 12 2009, 10:27 PM)
alpha.. u r correct.
i purchased the new d60 w/ kit lens which is exactly the same pic u posted.
i dunno what is ED II means? better? lagi baik? or market strategy from nikon? hmm.gif
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need to google yourself but from what i've read ED II is better than ED.

but from what i've read in kenrockwell's review, VR has the same performance with ED II except when shooting between 1/2 and 1/30 of a second. then VR makes a difference.

please refer hto the link below:

HERE
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oh, cant imagine Nikon change the kit lens for D60..
May be the cheaper price of the lens is compensated by the more pricey leather bag, so the price is still the same
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d60 with 18-55 ed 2 price cheaper rm50 compare to 18-55 vr

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ED II first introduced with D40, while ED comes with D50. if u see thoroughly the lens, i think the design/pattern is lil bit different.

btw, never shoot with D50 + ED before,so i cant comment anything bout the quality. 2 cents
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EDII is just as good as the vr version but cheaper rm200. With proper grip technique you would not miss the VR. even with VR if the subject moved at slow shutter speed still doh.gif blurry.

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QUOTE(NasiLemakMan @ May 14 2009, 01:13 AM)
EDII is just as good as the vr version but cheaper rm200. With proper grip technique you would not miss the VR. even with VR if the subject moved at slow shutter speed still  doh.gif blurry.
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VR cannot compensate for blur caused from subject movement, only blur cause from camera shake which is the sole purpose of VR.

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Add me to the D40 list~
D40's kit lens not VR! Handheld with slow shutter speed still a problem for me.

BTW im using nissin di622 flash, so far so good, but when I hang my D40+di622 on my neck the camera becomes unbalanced... the whole camera points downwards... Too heavy...

I wanna ask something. If shooting macro in somewhere indoor and insufficient lighting, the Di622 cannot illuminate the subject completely! The flash is too far away frm the lens, so only the upper part of the object is illuminated. I use bounce card lagi teruk. If i use wireless, I need someone to hold the flash for me T_T

Anyone can teach me some tips?
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QUOTE(aaron1kee @ May 13 2009, 09:13 AM)
I would rather choose a better lens than a leather bag.
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what better lens? comparing 18-55 EDII and VR? VR better? plz, if you say VR better, tell me how much better? the "better" part of it is negligible.

if i'm comparing nikon 17-55 f/2.8 against 18-55 EDII, it's worth mentioning that the 17-55 is "better".

if you compared the normal 55-200 & 55-200VR than it makes a substancial difference. now this is "better". VR is most useful and have a significant role in tele ranges. didnt i say this quite a few times already?

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QUOTE(alpha_company @ May 14 2009, 01:50 AM)
what better lens? comparing 18-55 EDII and VR? VR better? plz, if you say VR better, tell me how much better? the "better" part of it is negligible.

if i'm comparing nikon 17-55 f/2.8 against 18-55 EDII, it's worth mentioning that the 17-55 is "better".

if you compared the normal 55-200 & 55-200VR than it makes a substancial difference. now this is "better". VR is most useful and have a significant role in tele ranges. didnt i say this quite a few times already?
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if the same lens.. one with VR.. and one without.. ofcourse la with VR is better.. dont compare ur 2.8 lens with 18-55 la.. mestilah tak sama.. doh.gif
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QUOTE(calvin_gsc @ May 14 2009, 01:18 AM)
VR cannot compensate for blur caused from subject movement, only blur cause from camera shake which is the sole purpose of VR.
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People please read this... a lot of people are still in the dark regarding VR's true purpose.


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QUOTE(razuryza @ May 14 2009, 01:54 AM)
if the same lens.. one with VR.. and one without.. ofcourse la with VR is better.. dont compare ur 2.8 lens with 18-55 la.. mestilah tak sama.. doh.gif
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where did i mention MY lens? u tatau ka nikon ada 17-55 f2.8? doh.gif whistling.gif

and another thing, 18-55VR is not worth mentioning that it's "BETTER" than EDII. i would just say that it is comparable..not better. that's what i meant. please read throughly.


take this into consideration. the price of VR and EDII differs by rm200. the so called "better" VR costs more but when taking into mind Price:Performance ratio EDII is a better buy.

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QUOTE(alpha_company @ May 14 2009, 01:55 AM)
People please read this... a lot of people are still in the dark regarding VR's true purpose.


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where did i mention MY lens? u tatau ka nikon ada 17-55 f2.8?  doh.gif  whistling.gif
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ok.. my fault.. just be like this.. just answer within the questions... just compare what he meant.. 18-55, with VR and without.. so.. u tell me.. which one better... dont compare with other lens....

one more thing.. VR is.. vibration reduction right? so.. on the tele side.. yes.. it helps on tele... but.. do mind.. it helps also on longer shutter speed.. (ofcourse if u want to take couples seconds, u use tripod) but any shutter speed less than 1/10, is quite slow actually.. but if u really got steady hand.. takper la.. whistling.gif

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QUOTE(zellleonhart @ May 14 2009, 01:43 AM)
Add me to the D40 list~
D40's kit lens not VR! Handheld with slow shutter speed still a problem for me.

BTW im using nissin di622 flash, so far so good, but when I hang my D40+di622 on my neck the camera becomes unbalanced... the whole camera points downwards... Too heavy...

I wanna ask something. If shooting macro in somewhere indoor and insufficient lighting, the Di622 cannot illuminate the subject completely! The flash is too far away frm the lens, so only the upper part of the object is illuminated. I use bounce card lagi teruk. If i use wireless, I need someone to hold the flash for me T_T

Anyone can teach me some tips?
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thr is a flash stand tat comes wit Nissin Di622...
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QUOTE(illegaldragon87 @ May 14 2009, 02:00 AM)
thr is a flash stand tat comes wit Nissin Di622...
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yup buy a flash stand or just make your own.

but here's the problem:

1. Nissin 622 is the only current 3rd party flash that CANNOT work with phottix PT-04II in wireless flash mode.

2. Nissin 622 can work in manual mode and would fire WIRELESSLY ONLY IF u use the built in flash. Point the nissin in the same direction and make sure that the nissin can detect the built in flash fire. THE problem with this method is the picture will almost certainly be overexposed because both the built in flash and nissin firing at the same time.

Other flashes like cybertik and falcon eyes can be used with phottix PT04II and dont need to fire the built in flash for the cybertik/falcon eyes to fire.

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QUOTE(alpha_company @ May 14 2009, 01:55 AM)
People please read this... a lot of people are still in the dark regarding VR's true purpose.


Added on May 14, 2009, 1:56 am

where did i mention MY lens? u tatau ka nikon ada 17-55 f2.8?  doh.gif  whistling.gif

and another thing, 18-55VR is not worth mentioning that it's "BETTER" than EDII. i would just say that it is comparable..not better. that's what i meant. please read throughly.
take this into consideration. the price of VR and EDII differs by rm200. the so called "better" VR costs more but when taking into mind Price:Performance ratio EDII is a better buy.
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biggrin.gif Aiyo, razuryza only tries to say that lens is VR can reduce camera shake especially for those with unstable hand. I personally find that VR @ 55mm quite useful in low light condition, can reduce the blur cause by my hand shake.
Any way, cant compare kit lens with 17-55 f2.8 surely, it's a different level of lens, jst like comparing BMW with proton, how can compare, the price is far much more expensive..
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QUOTE(zellleonhart @ May 14 2009, 01:43 AM)
Add me to the D40 list~
D40's kit lens not VR! Handheld with slow shutter speed still a problem for me.

BTW im using nissin di622 flash, so far so good, but when I hang my D40+di622 on my neck the camera becomes unbalanced... the whole camera points downwards... Too heavy...

I wanna ask something. If shooting macro in somewhere indoor and insufficient lighting, the Di622 cannot illuminate the subject completely! The flash is too far away frm the lens, so only the upper part of the object is illuminated. I use bounce card lagi teruk. If i use wireless, I need someone to hold the flash for me T_T

Anyone can teach me some tips?
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QUOTE(alpha_company @ May 14 2009, 02:12 AM)
yup buy a flash stand or just make your own.

but here's the problem:

1. Nissin 622 is the only current 3rd party flash that CANNOT work with phottix PT-04II in wireless flash mode.

2. Nissin 622 can work in manual mode and would fire WIRELESSLY ONLY IF u use the built in flash. Point the nissin in the same direction and make sure that the nissin can detect the built in flash fire. THE problem with this method is the picture will almost certainly be overexposed because both the built in flash and nissin firing at the same time.

Other flashes like cybertik and falcon eyes can be used with phottix PT04II and dont need to fire the built in flash for the cybertik/falcon eyes to fire.
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no need to buy... it comes with the flashgun... n not necessary tat u need to point in the same direction de... u can point the flashgun upwards so it wont make it overexposed....
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QUOTE(illegaldragon87 @ May 14 2009, 02:46 AM)
no need to buy... it comes with the flashgun... n not necessary tat u need to point in the same direction de... u can point the flashgun upwards so it wont make it overexposed....
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what i mean by point in the same direction is to make it easier for light sensor detect the built in flash fired.

point upwards if you want to use bounce but if high ceiling or no ceiling no use also.
and keep in mind that even if you point upwards or whatever, the options for getting the flash you want/like is greatly reduced because pop-up flash still needs to fire and frontal flash fire is unavoidable.

i recommend using a diffuser but u really need to try out the angles. sometimes i use a large squared styrofoam for a bounce flash and it does wonders at close range. need to experiment on your own to get the right exposure and angles.

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QUOTE(alpha_company @ May 14 2009, 02:58 AM)
what i mean by point in the same direction is to make it easier for light sensor detect the built in flash fired.

point upwards if you want to use bounce but if high ceiling or no ceiling no use also.
and keep in mind that even if you point upwards or whatever, the options for getting the flash you want/like is greatly reduced because pop-up flash still needs to fire and frontal flash fire is unavoidable.

i recommend using a diffuser but u really need to try out the angles. sometimes i use a large squared styrofoam for a bounce flash and it does wonders at close range. need to experiment on your own to get the right exposure and angles.
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QUOTE(alpha_company @ May 14 2009, 02:12 AM)
yup buy a flash stand or just make your own.

but here's the problem:

1. Nissin 622 is the only current 3rd party flash that CANNOT work with phottix PT-04II in wireless flash mode.

2. Nissin 622 can work in manual mode and would fire WIRELESSLY ONLY IF u use the built in flash. Point the nissin in the same direction and make sure that the nissin can detect the built in flash fire. THE problem with this method is the picture will almost certainly be overexposed because both the built in flash and nissin firing at the same time.

Other flashes like cybertik and falcon eyes can be used with phottix PT04II and dont need to fire the built in flash for the cybertik/falcon eyes to fire.
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it means u dun know how to control ur lightings!
we (frens in d300 and me) have used 4-5 lights to light up a model...
and none of it is overexposed...
y?
bcoz we rock...we know how to control lightings...

before u talk like u know stuff...
u better make sure that u really know what ur talking about...


Added on May 14, 2009, 9:04 amif u r not satisfied with my answer...
about the overexposed thingy..
this is a proof...

Shot with 3 lights....
1 camera right, 1 camera left and 1 behind the model.
Any overexposure? i dun think so.

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Xandman you don't understand what alpha_company and me were driving at. I am just a hobby photographer, amateur too, as a student I can't afford to get more than 1 flash gun. And the flash gun I am using is nissin di622. 622 needs to detect the primary flash frm the camera body only can work wirelessly, not like SB-600 got commander.

When need to shoot wirelessly, I need to trigger the built-in flash on my camera so that the 622 detects the light and then fire. But the problem is the built-in flash is firing directly at the object (cannot bounce or swivel and the diffuser is another burden for me) which makes the object overexposed. Even with 5 flash guns, the built-in flash still produces unwanted flash u get it? The point is, I have ONLY ONE flash gun!
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QUOTE(xandman @ May 14 2009, 08:52 AM)
post some of ur "large square styrofoam bounce flash" pics please!

Added on May 14, 2009, 8:59 am

it means u dun know how to control ur lightings!
we (frens in d300 and me) have used 4-5 lights to light up a model...
and none of it is overexposed...
y?
bcoz we rock...we know how to control lightings...

before u talk like u know stuff...
u better make sure that u really know what ur talking about...


Added on May 14, 2009, 9:04 amif u r not satisfied with my answer...
about the overexposed thingy..
this is a proof...

Shot with 3 lights....
1 camera right, 1 camera left and 1 behind the model.
Any overexposure? i dun think so.

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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hello.. the 4-5 flash u use ttl or manual?? i guess u use nikon cls system kann??

plz la read the question. i like the "bcoz we rock...we know how to control lightings..." hahahaha... this i need to quote...

tapi yg paling malu...even zellleonhart, the person asking the question said i answered him correctly and also said u don't understand what we're talking about..haha

"u better make sure that u really know what ur talking about..." - is it pointed towards yourself? i guess so.

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Any way, cant compare kit lens with 17-55 f2.8 surely, it's a different level of lens, jst like comparing BMW with proton, how can compare, the price is far much more expensive..
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@NasiLemakMan - very veryy useful info.. thanks biggrin.gif notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(alpha_company @ May 14 2009, 12:40 PM)
hello.. the 4-5 flash u use ttl or manual?? i guess u use nikon cls system kann??

plz la read the question. i like the "bcoz we rock...we know how to control lightings..." hahahaha... this i need to quote...

tapi yg paling malu...even zellleonhart, the person asking the question said i answered him correctly and also said u don't understand what we're talking about..haha

"u better make sure that u really know what ur talking about..."  - is it pointed towards yourself? i guess so.
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ok...
i might have gotten the point wrong...
u were talking about slave mode...
and i m talking about cls...
but cls doesnt mean it's TTL or iTTL...
it's still manual...

btw mr know it all...
did u know that u can adjust the power of ur pop up flash?
although it is direct flash...it does not mean it would be harsh...
u could always set ur popup flash to 1/128...
the slave would still detect the flash fired...
but the effect on the subject would be less...
still...
it wont cause overexposure...

also...if u din know...
u can always lower down the power output of the wireless flash if it's too harsh...
if it is no longer able to go lower...
u can always mover the flash away from ur subjects...

did u know adjusting the aperture also limits the lights that enter the sensor?
also did u know that adjusting the shutter speed determines the amount of ambient that falls onto the sensor when u r firing flashes?





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QUOTE(xandman @ May 14 2009, 02:01 PM)
did u know adjusting the aperture also limits the lights that enter the sensor?
also did u know that adjusting the shutter speed determines the amount of ambient that falls onto the sensor when u r firing flashes?
Quoted for plain and simple common sense truth. tongue.gif
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In case xand talks a bit too long, here is a summary.

Use manual. Go with the lowest setting your built-in flash can go. Your Nissin is not blind, it doesn't need to see 1/1.
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QUOTE(xandman @ May 14 2009, 02:01 PM)
ok...
i might have gotten the point wrong...
u were talking about slave mode...
and i m talking about cls...
but cls doesnt mean it's TTL or iTTL...
it's still manual...

btw mr know it all...
did u know that u can adjust the power of ur pop up flash?
although it is direct flash...it does not mean it would be harsh...
u could always set ur popup flash to 1/128...
the slave would still detect the flash fired...
but the effect on the subject would be less...
still...
it wont cause overexposure...

also...if u din know...
u can always lower down the power output of the wireless flash if it's too harsh...
if it is no longer able to go lower...
u can always mover the flash away from ur subjects...

did u know adjusting the aperture also limits the lights that enter the sensor?
also did u know that adjusting the shutter speed determines the amount of ambient that falls onto the sensor when u r firing flashes?
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@xandman .. plz la.. im using p&s ka?

quote a few from xand enough already la...

"did u know that u can adjust the power of ur pop up flash?" - do i need to scan my manual book with the part containing the subject to you? i know alreadi la..

"u could always set ur popup flash to 1/128..." - u SURE2 ckp and confident u ckp all betul and correct.. muahahaha. wrongo mongo info
this is D40/D40x/D60 thread..not D3 or other nikon dslr thread mind you.. doh.gif. For D40/D40x/D60 users - OUR built in flash is full, 1/2, 1/4, 1/8, 1/16, and 1/32 power...

"u can always mover the flash away from ur subjects..." - u need to take into consideration the place also. if there's not enough space tell me how u want to do that?

come on..want to teach aperture and shutter speed to me and zellleonhart ?...next what..u wanna teach bokeh and dof when changing aperture size?

p.s. i dont know everything but at least i dont need to show off "bcoz we rock...we know how to control lightings..."

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Don't make a fool of yourself la....

zellleonhart's original question was :

"I wanna ask something. If shooting macro in somewhere indoor and insufficient lighting, the Di622 cannot illuminate the subject completely! The flash is too far away frm the lens, so only the upper part of the object is illuminated. I use bounce card lagi teruk. If i use wireless, I need someone to hold the flash for me T_T"

The reason is simply because your own lens is blocking the light. Which is why if you really wanna go *that* close, get the R1C1 or equivalent

user posted image

Notice the flash is right up front and unobstructed.

This is for those really serious macro shooters though as it does cost some $$$

QUOTE(alpha_company @ May 14 2009, 12:40 PM)
THE problem with this method is the picture will almost certainly be overexposed because both the built in flash and nissin firing at the same time.
You use too many absolutes in this sentence, which was what earned you unnecessary attention. Photography is all about controlling the lighting. And there's many many ways to do so... some of which have been highlighted in the replies by Xand and Nick.

QUOTE(alpha_company @ May 14 2009, 02:33 PM)
"did u know that u can adjust the power of ur pop up flash?" - do i need to scan my manual book with the part containing the subject to you? i know alreadi la..
If you knew this all so well, you wouldn't have made such an absolute statement as I mentioned above.... which in turn misleads those who do NOT know.

QUOTE(alpha_company @ May 14 2009, 02:33 PM)
"u could always set ur popup flash to 1/128..." - u SURE2 ckp and confident u ckp all betul and correct.. muahahaha. wrongo mongo info
this is D40/D40x/D60 thread..not D3 or other nikon dslr thread mind you..  doh.gif. For D40/D40x/D60 users - OUR built in flash is full, 1/2, 1/4, 1/8, 1/16, and 1/32 power...
Stop nitpicking. The general idea is still there whether you can control up to 1/128 or 1/32 - it's still less than full power which still gives the possibility of not overexposing the subject.

QUOTE(alpha_company @ May 14 2009, 02:33 PM)
"u can always mover the flash away from ur subjects..." - u need to take into consideration the place also. if there's not enough space tell me how u want to do that?
Again stop being such a child. It's an OPTION. If you notice zellleonhart's original question, he's shooting macro... which means that asides from the lens having to be near the subject, the flash doesn't have to be in-your-face distance does it?

QUOTE(alpha_company @ May 14 2009, 02:33 PM)
come on..want to teach aperture and shutter speed to me and zellleonhart ?...next what..u wanna teach bokeh and dof when changing aperture size?
Did you know that adjusting shutter speed and aperture even during flash firing operations can reduce the exposure of the shot? If you do know, again, why make your earlier absolute statement?

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And shoot me for not reading the question earlier but since Darth has brought it up, I think I can speak up a bit in terms of macro since I have some experience in it.

R1C1 is one option but that costs a bundle, or you can go with R1 only and use the pop-up flash blocker which is cheaper but not that cheap.

The other alternative is to use ring flash, which feeds from your flash directly (Nissin kah, EX kah, Cobra kah, SB kah) and then as the name implies, distribute the light effectively across a ring. I believe it can be DIY-ed and it can also be bought. Digital Mania has one for the Nikons and Canons but I am sure you can try and see if it fits with the Nissin. If not, I am sure a simple modification can be done.

So, why go through all the trouble of wireless flash if you are looking at a macro situation?

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hi all
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my company has a d40x
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Wah ... I open this thread and see mini war going on here shocking.gif . Flash boom bang!! Unfortunately I dun have Nikon CLS flash. Otherwise can curi curi lob some grenades in here as well ... ha ha ha biggrin.gif .

p/s - Lighten up guys. Errr ... maybe shouldn't say "light" ... nanti BOOM!!! whistling.gif


Added on May 14, 2009, 4:23 pm
QUOTE(darthbaboon @ May 14 2009, 03:26 PM)
user posted image
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Wow!! Dat be picture of the largest money sucking black hole ever invented by Nikon. shocking.gif Don't look directly at the lite ... don't look directly at the lite shocking.gif

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wahahaha.. darthbaboon marah ka..i know la u satu geng dgn "bcoz we rock...we know how to control lightings..." geng..haha..."kuangkuangkuang... yawn.gif

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QUOTE(alpha_company @ May 14 2009, 04:24 PM)
wahahaha.. darthbaboon marah ka..i know la u satu geng dgn "bcoz we rock...we know how to control lightings..." geng..haha..."kuangkuangkuang... yawn.gif
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Marah??? Nah... just comical to see you make a fool of yourself. Need to put you back in the small little box where you belong before you mislead the mob.

And no... I don't own a flash, I hardly use my built-in flash and I don't claim to know all about lighting. Even then I can see that your replies are full of anything but substance.

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QUOTE(HiroBoroi @ May 14 2009, 04:16 PM)
Wah ... I open this thread and see mini war going on here  shocking.gif . Flash boom bang!! Unfortunately I dun have Nikon CLS flash. Otherwise can curi curi lob some grenades in here as well ... ha ha ha  biggrin.gif .

p/s - Lighten up guys. Errr ... maybe shouldn't say "light"  ... nanti BOOM!!!  whistling.gif


Added on May 14, 2009, 4:23 pm
Wow!! Dat be picture of the largest money sucking black hole ever invented by Nikon.   shocking.gif Don't look directly at the lite ... don't look directly at the lite  shocking.gif
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Look at how this user uses the R1C1 with 8 x SB-R200.

http://www.flickr.com/groups/strobist/disc...57603817364237/

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QUOTE(darthbaboon @ May 14 2009, 06:10 PM)
Marah??? Nah... just comical to see you make a fool of yourself. Need to put you back in the small little box where you belong before you mislead the mob.

And no... I don't own a flash, I hardly use my built-in flash and I don't claim to know all about lighting. Even then I can see that your replies are full of anything but substance.
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hehe.. u marah already... sure2 wan.. mislead the mob? what mob? tak nmpk ponz..u sorang ja pn yg dok marah2 ..kahkah2. tu tadak modal nk balas kat aku le tuh.. kuangkuangkuang...kesian2 cool2.gif yawn.gif


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QUOTE(calvin_gsc @ May 14 2009, 08:08 PM)
Look at how this user uses the R1C1 with 8 x SB-R200.

http://www.flickr.com/groups/strobist/disc...57603817364237/
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pergh....he spent a great amount of money on all of that notworthy.gif ... much more expensive than his camera + lens

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tongue.gif cool down guys
this is a discussion thread for knowledge sharing, we share our knowledge so that everyone can make full use on their DSLR.. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(calvin_gsc @ May 14 2009, 08:08 PM)
Look at how this user uses the R1C1 with 8 x SB-R200.

http://www.flickr.com/groups/strobist/disc...57603817364237/
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Mesmerized shocking.gif ... can't look away shocking.gif ... so pwetty shocking.gif ... my precious cry.gif ... Calvin blink.gif ... evil duck ...
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Im here again... Sorry for causing so much problem until all of you quarreled T_T

Sorry har I just used my D40 1 month, still learning ha...
Okay I got it. Since my pocket is tight i can't me buying that macro flash == I will just adjust the flash power to 1/32 and my aperture/shutter speed.

Thanks everyone! Chill!
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QUOTE(zellleonhart @ May 14 2009, 10:31 PM)
Im here again... Sorry for causing so much problem until all of you quarreled T_T

Sorry har I just used my D40 1 month, still learning ha...
Okay I got it. Since my pocket is tight i can't me buying that macro flash == I will just adjust the flash power to 1/32 and my aperture/shutter speed.

Thanks everyone! Chill!
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Naw... no problems caused. It's perfectly alright to ask questions. You just have to learn to distinguish between pure bullsh|t replies by wannabes and those with substance. whistling.gif
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just miss the lighting fight..

btw, gonna fully utilize my kitlens for heritage trails at melaka tommorow. will decide wether go for 2.8 standard zoom or UWA.. brows.gif
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heheh.can add me to the d60 list.bought it a few months back...still learning to use it.
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QUOTE(shinjun @ May 17 2009, 10:30 PM)
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Add my name too for D40..
Have been using it around 1 year ... but just come back from claim warranty
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QUOTE(loon1031 @ May 19 2009, 01:33 PM)
Add my name too for D40..
Have been using it around 1 year ... but just come back from claim warranty
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send in for what problem?
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QUOTE(loon1031 @ May 19 2009, 01:33 PM)
Add my name too for D40..
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hi all, my fren is looking to buy a d60 or d90....can i ask wut's the market price for this model now? and where to buy in kl @ lowyat area? thanks.
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QUOTE(fazco85 @ May 20 2009, 07:14 PM)
hi all, my fren is looking to buy a d60 or d90....can i ask wut's the market price for this model now? and where to buy in kl @ lowyat area? thanks.
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QUOTE(Firdaus92 @ May 9 2009, 07:22 PM)
Congratz on V5! thumbup.gif I'm using D60, my next target is a flash! But under strict budget of RM400+-. I want to get SB600 but money not enough sweat.gif By the way, I tried my cousin's Nissin Di622 that she used for her Canon 450D, it cannot function on my D60. Why?
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SB-600 is a very good performer! You'll have to double your budget to get the SB-600 sweat.gif. You might wanna raise up the cash by RM100 or so for a SB-400 but it looks.. puny.

Why not get a Falcon Eyes DPT386-AFZ flash gun instead.. it looks roughly like a SB-600 and according to users it's pretty decent. It's also cheap at <RM400 new. Go and hunt for it in the Garage Sales, got a few sellers/supplier over there!
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QUOTE(kimurastanley @ May 19 2009, 05:15 PM)
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Dear all, need advice on flash.
im gonna get a sb600 ( that the close i can get due to budget constrain)
but the question is
1.shoudl i go for new ones or 2nd hand ones?

2.do they have a life span as in the bulb/or izzit lumen

3.how much would the bulb/lumen cost if i were to replace them?

from what i survey, new ones is abt 800 and 2nd hand on 400 onwards.
so the price difference really amaze me
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QUOTE(mixologist84 @ May 20 2009, 09:52 PM)
Dear all, need advice on flash.
im gonna get a sb600 ( that the close i can get due to budget constrain)
but the question is
1.shoudl i go for new ones or 2nd hand ones?

2.do they have a life span as in the bulb/or izzit lumen

3.how much would the bulb/lumen cost if i were to replace them?

from what i survey, new ones is abt 800 and 2nd hand on 400 onwards.
so the price difference really amaze me
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A used one is enough if u can find a well-kept unit

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QUOTE(kimurastanley @ May 22 2009, 12:18 AM)
A used one is enough if u can find a well-kept unit
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all in not a very good shape.
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cant find any decent ones.
all in not a very good shape.
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A new one will cost RM780-790, ever consider that??
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Hi people, i just bought a D60. Please add my name in the list. Thx. Hope can share and learn some photography knowledge. =)
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Bought a Tamron 17-50mm f/2.8
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Hi people, i just bought a D60. Please add my name in the list. Thx. Hope can share and learn some photography knowledge. =)
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QUOTE(loon1031 @ May 20 2009, 09:50 PM)
Blue spot on image... change CCD  cry.gif
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Dunno any other D40/x or D60 got face the same problem??
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have to be patient and sometime depends on luck to get a good used unit.
A new one will cost RM780-790, ever consider that??
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hey guys.. for outdoor/sports what should i get?

the new tamron 18-270mm OR 70-300VR OR 18-200VR?
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I vote for 70-300VR... fast len
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QUOTE(alpha_company @ May 23 2009, 03:45 AM)
hey guys.. for outdoor/sports what should i get?

the new tamron 18-270mm OR 70-300VR OR 18-200VR?
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All those three lenses can be used to shoot sports and outdoors.

And it depends on what other lenses you already have. If you have the 17-50, 18-70, 18-105, it doesn't make sense to get the 18-270, 18-200 jack of all trades, master of none lenses because the range overlaps.

In my example, since I already have the 24-70, I'd supplement my lens with an ultra wide (14-24, 10-24, 11-16) and a telephoto (70-200, 70-300, 80-400, 150-500)

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Went to penang recently, share some pics here

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QUOTE(darthbaboon @ May 23 2009, 10:05 AM)
All those three lenses can be used to shoot sports and outdoors.

And it depends on what other lenses you already have. If you have the 17-50, 18-70, 18-105, it doesn't make sense to get the 18-270, 18-200 jack of all trades, master of none lenses because the range overlaps.

In my example, since I already have the 24-70, I'd supplement my lens with an ultra wide (14-24, 10-24, 11-16) and a telephoto (70-200, 70-300, 80-400, 150-500)
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I agree with that, but for ppl who want a all-in-one lens which can save trouble of changing the lens and miss precious shoots(like me tongue.gif ), u may want to get a 18-200/18-270 lens for travelling.
However if u shoot sports and dont mind the issue I mentioned above, can a 70-300 VR or 70-200 f/2.8 (very expensive). These lenses have better build quality and can take better image quality.
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QUOTE(kimurastanley @ May 23 2009, 10:20 AM)
Went to penang recently, share some pics here

Camera:Nikon D60
Exposure: 1/320
Aperture: f/9
ISO Speed: 100
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Here's my comment/critique...

There's too much hill slope from the left. It eats into the focal subject in the photo which I believe is the pagoda. The cloud formation is nice, but might wanna apply the rule of third when framing the pagoda. As it is, the pagoda is too much to the left... move it to the center a little (might have to sacrifice some of the nicer cloud formations on the right). You got too little of the buildings at the bottom to allow them to compliment the photo. In fact, that long stick-thing coming out in the middle annoys me as it seems out of place. Overall, with a little work on framing and composition, this can be improved further. The catch is, you might be standing on a cliff or edge while shooting this so can't move any much further to the right... so... tongue.gif

Alternatively, I'll do a vertical crop of just the pagoda and the temple below it, ending right before the annoying stick.
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QUOTE(darthbaboon @ May 23 2009, 10:35 AM)
The catch is, you might be standing on a cliff or edge while shooting this so can't move any much further to the right... so...  tongue.gif
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U are right about this, cant find any places to shoot more of the pagoda. Thanks for ur comment, will crop like wat u said and see how the effect.


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Cropping has been done.... better??

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Cropping has been done.... better??
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The pagoda's still too much to the left. Again rule of thirds need to come in play. Here's what I had in mind. There's still too much of the hill, but at least focal attention is on the pagoda now.

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QUOTE(darthbaboon @ May 23 2009, 10:53 AM)
The pagoda's still too much to the left. Again rule of thirds need to come in play. Here's what I had in mind. There's still too much of the hill, but at least focal attention is on the pagoda now.

user posted image
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The hill is really too much. When I take the photos and see thru the viewfinder, and think WTF hill was blocking my way. Haha.. but no better place already, so just take the photo
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hi guys,

im a newbie here still thinking of which DSLR to get...

does D60 have internal AF motor? i asked a few friends but they gave me diff ans so im kinda confused...hee


Added on May 23, 2009, 11:08 pmhi guys,

im a newbie here still thinking of which DSLR to get...

does D60 have internal AF motor? i asked a few friends but they gave me diff ans so im kinda confused...hee

This post has been edited by babymiki: May 23 2009, 11:08 PM
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QUOTE(babymiki @ May 23 2009, 11:07 PM)
hi guys,

im a newbie here still thinking of which DSLR to get...

does D60 have internal AF motor? i asked a few friends but they gave me diff ans so im kinda confused...hee
The answer is no
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QUOTE(babymiki @ May 23 2009, 11:07 PM)
hi guys,

im a newbie here still thinking of which DSLR to get...

does D60 have internal AF motor? i asked a few friends but they gave me diff ans so im kinda confused...hee


Added on May 23, 2009, 11:08 pmhi guys,

im a newbie here still thinking of which DSLR to get...

does D60 have internal AF motor? i asked a few friends but they gave me diff ans so im kinda confused...hee
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Definitely no.. Camera range from D90 above have internal motor
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QUOTE(kimurastanley @ May 23 2009, 11:21 PM)
Definitely no.. Camera range from D90 above have internal motor
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D80 also got leh..
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he's giving examples of new models la, not to left out D80...
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QUOTE(kimurastanley @ May 23 2009, 10:20 AM)
Went to penang recently, share some pics here

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Camera:Nikon D60
Exposure: 1/320
Aperture: f/9
ISO Speed: 100
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Wellcome to Penang ...
If you visit during CNY, more beautiful scenery at night.

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QUOTE(loon1031 @ May 24 2009, 10:08 AM)
Wellcome to Penang ...
If you visit during CNY, more beautiful scenery at night.

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wow, like neon city drool.gif
kinda like scenery from Tokyo or HK city night time
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hay guise,
i'm kind of thinking to get me a D60
but i can't find any pricing info in 1st page
so anyone know what's the current street price now ?

thx guise
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hay guise,
i'm kind of thinking to get me a D60
but i can't find any pricing info in 1st page
so anyone know what's the current street price now ?

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here is another one from penang.

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Camera:Nikon D60
Focal length: 28mm
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Aperture: f/4.3
ISO Speed: 100
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Hi All,

I've just gotten myself my first DSLR this evening, a Nikon D60.

I almost make a decision to invest on D5000 but after weighting in alot of factors, especially the price, I think I can forgo Movie Mode, 7 point AF, articulate LCD (which is not side hinge) and the D90 sensor. All that for RM1k less is definitely worth it.

I'm sorta looking for some accessories but not too sure which is the best place to look for it in KL/Pudu.

3rd Party accessories also no problem.

1. Hand Straps (definitely 3rd Party)
2. Battery Grip (definitely 3rd Party)
3. LCD Protector (I guess only 3rd Party, don't seems to have what D90 have)
4. Flash (basic with variable angle will do, gonna use card board to diffuse the light or rice paper)

Need to get those item cheap and I might be prowling in the Garage sale for it.

Looking forward to get kimurastanley's gear: the Tamron lens and flashes. I know that without that lens, I can't do bokeh in a non Tele lens...

Shed some light, fellow Nikonian! notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(kimurastanley @ May 24 2009, 03:32 PM)
street price is 2-2.1K
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hi bro,
need some advice from u and all tammy 17-50 f2.8 user's.
i have got 3 buddies using this lense.
d 60 d 80 and d 90 coincidentally.
all of them complaint that tht
1. at times the lense just does not respond as in the body does not detect the lense (e)
2. the motor speed is very slow

i am in the midst of getting this lense but contemplating either tamron 17-50 or sigma 18-50.
i am told that sigma will be a better choice as its motor is faster and also batter sharpness compared to tammy.
please give your review.
hoping to get feedback from both tammy and siggy user's

thanking in advance.
Mixo


Added on May 25, 2009, 12:26 am
QUOTE(Kagaya @ May 24 2009, 08:45 PM)
Hi All,

I've just gotten myself my first DSLR this evening, a Nikon D60.

I almost make a decision to invest on D5000 but after weighting in alot of factors, especially the price, I think I can forgo Movie Mode, 7 point AF, articulate LCD (which is not side hinge) and the D90 sensor. All that for RM1k less is definitely worth it.

I'm sorta looking for some accessories but not too sure which is the best place to look for it in KL/Pudu.

3rd Party accessories also no problem.

1. Hand Straps (definitely 3rd Party)
2. Battery Grip (definitely 3rd Party)
3. LCD Protector (I guess only 3rd Party, don't seems to have what D90 have)
4. Flash (basic with variable angle will do, gonna use card board to diffuse the light or rice paper)

Need to get those item cheap and I might be prowling in the Garage sale for it.

Looking forward to get kimurastanley's gear: the Tamron lens and flashes. I know that without that lens, I can't do bokeh in a non Tele lens...

Shed some light, fellow Nikonian! notworthy.gif
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hello bro,
my sincere wishes to you.
a good choice of slr to start in photography.
given choice of d5k and d60 with the price difference you made a smart choice especially if you plan to take this as a passion and not just hobby.

ps: just saw leica m8 and leica safar ltd edition .
its just pure sweetness. but after looking at the price i had to think thrice b4 even touching it!


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QUOTE(bonzaimy @ May 24 2009, 08:10 PM)
im using D60
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QUOTE(Kagaya @ May 24 2009, 08:45 PM)
Hi All,

I've just gotten myself my first DSLR this evening, a Nikon D60.

I almost make a decision to invest on D5000 but after weighting in alot of factors, especially the price, I think I can forgo Movie Mode, 7 point AF, articulate LCD (which is not side hinge) and the D90 sensor. All that for RM1k less is definitely worth it.

I'm sorta looking for some accessories but not too sure which is the best place to look for it in KL/Pudu.

3rd Party accessories also no problem.

1. Hand Straps (definitely 3rd Party)
2. Battery Grip (definitely 3rd Party)
3. LCD Protector (I guess only 3rd Party, don't seems to have what D90 have)
4. Flash (basic with variable angle will do, gonna use card board to diffuse the light or rice paper)

Need to get those item cheap and I might be prowling in the Garage sale for it.

Looking forward to get kimurastanley's gear: the Tamron lens and flashes. I know that without that lens, I can't do bokeh in a non Tele lens...

Shed some light, fellow Nikonian! notworthy.gif
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Welcome to join the family!! rclxm9.gif
For beginner, D60 is enough. Get used to the DSLR function and the aperture, shutter etc settings first. Master your skill on the DSLR and save money for ur next upgrade tongue.gif
U will slowly feel that D60 is not enough for u and u may get D90 or D300 for ur next DSLR. thumbup.gif
D60 kit lens can also do bokeh, u can set @55mm and the bokeh is not bad


Added on May 25, 2009, 12:33 am
QUOTE(mixologist84 @ May 25 2009, 12:20 AM)
hi bro,
need some advice from u and all tammy 17-50 f2.8 user's.
i have got 3 buddies using this lense.
d 60 d 80 and d 90 coincidentally.
all of them complaint that tht
1. at times the lense just does not respond as in the body does not detect the lense (e)
2. the motor speed is very slow

i am in the midst of getting this lense but contemplating either tamron 17-50 or sigma 18-50.
i am told that sigma will be a better choice as its motor is faster and also batter sharpness compared to tammy.
please give your review.
hoping to get feedback from both tammy and siggy user's

thanking in advance.
Mixo
i do experienced once that the D60 show "f--" with the lens, but only once.
The motor speed is slower than Sigma bcz sigma has HSM which is equivalent to AF-S, thus the AF is faster. But i still feel OK regarding the AF speed on my Tamron..
I dun think Sigma is sharper than Tamron. Tamron is more popular although it's AF is slower than Sigma purely bcz it produce better IQ than the Sigma. That's what i know about

This post has been edited by kimurastanley: May 25 2009, 12:33 AM
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bro kimurastanley
thanks bro, appreciate it much.
will do a few more groundwork b4 deciding,
cheers
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QUOTE(mixologist84 @ May 25 2009, 12:43 AM)
bro kimurastanley
thanks bro, appreciate it much.
will do a few more groundwork b4 deciding,
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QUOTE(Kagaya @ May 24 2009, 08:45 PM)
Hi All,

I've just gotten myself my first DSLR this evening, a Nikon D60.

I almost make a decision to invest on D5000 but after weighting in alot of factors, especially the price, I think I can forgo Movie Mode, 7 point AF, articulate LCD (which is not side hinge) and the D90 sensor. All that for RM1k less is definitely worth it.

I'm sorta looking for some accessories but not too sure which is the best place to look for it in KL/Pudu.

3rd Party accessories also no problem.

1. Hand Straps (definitely 3rd Party)
2. Battery Grip (definitely 3rd Party)
3. LCD Protector (I guess only 3rd Party, don't seems to have what D90 have)
4. Flash (basic with variable angle will do, gonna use card board to diffuse the light or rice paper)

Need to get those item cheap and I might be prowling in the Garage sale for it.

Looking forward to get kimurastanley's gear: the Tamron lens and flashes. I know that without that lens, I can't do bokeh in a non Tele lens...

Shed some light, fellow Nikonian! notworthy.gif
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For good bokeh, Nikkor 50mm f1.8 / f1.4 do a great job thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(kimurastanley @ May 25 2009, 11:37 AM)
Remember to share some pics here after u have bought ur new lens biggrin.gif
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sure will do bro.
there some current ones la u can see it here >>>Mixo's Shutter<<<

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Gear: D60
Lens:18-55 f3.5-5.6 VR (d60 kit lens)
Focal Length:35mm
ISO: 100
Exp:1/60s
app:f8

Putrajaya


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Gear: D60
Lens:18-55 f3.5-5.6 VR (d60 kit lens)
Focal Length: 40mm
ISO: 100
Exp:1/160s
app:f10

Bukit Cerakah

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Gear: D60
Lens:18-55 f3.5-5.6 VR (d60 kit lens)
Focal Length: 55mm
ISO: 100
Exp:1/60s
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going to buy a used Sigma 18-200mm OS HSM...
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going to buy a used Sigma 18-200mm OS HSM...
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good buy bro,
coincidentally just tested it yesterday, very fast motor.
imho its good lense for runway's wedding shoots.
offer good anti vibration too!
i envy you!

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kimura..why don get nikkor 18200? is it budget problem?
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Hi guys, notworthy.gif

Today I become a proud owner of a Nikon D60. TS, please add my name to the users list ya biggrin.gif

Expect me to lurk here whenever I need help.. haha
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QUOTE(AlphaBeta @ May 25 2009, 08:31 PM)
kimura..why don get nikkor 18200? is it budget problem?
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Budget problem lo. Need to spend RM1K more to buy the nikkor lens.. tongue.gif
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Nikon D60
1/25
f 2.8
24mm
ISO 800

Try the bokeh of Tamron 17-50mm F/2.8....

The tamron is definitely sharper than the kit lens, here's some sample(unedited except resize)
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Nikon D60
1/50
f 5
48mm
ISO 400


100% crop
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This lens is sharpest after stop down to f/4.5 although f3.5-4 is also sharp enough

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from what i've read .. f4 is sharp enough, but the tammy 1750 is very sharp at 5.6..

4-5.6 is the magic number for the tammy 1750 f2.8 biggrin.gif

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guys
what memory card should i buy for my D40?
4GB typically how much for market rate?
any specific model i should get to make sure i get good memory card that won't slow my camera down when saving pic?

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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ May 26 2009, 11:29 AM)
guys
what memory card should i buy for my D40?
4GB typically how much for market rate?
any specific model i should get to make sure i get good memory card that won't slow my camera down when saving pic?
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I recommend u to buy class 6 SDHC because the speed is faster than class 4.
4gb i think is about RM40++. Just check the pricelist from computer shop will do.
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Guys here some sharing of pics from my last trip up north.
Please CnC. really appreciate it.

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For good bokeh, Nikkor 50mm f1.8 / f1.4 do a great job  thumbup.gif
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At f1.8/f1.4, i think bokeh is effortless with lens of such spec but it's a prime 50mm... would be better if it got the same range as my kit lens 18~55mm and got f-stop of 2.8 and lower(which is bigger aperture).

Saw a Tamron with that spec but the price easily could help me get another D60, laugh.gif

Anyway, I am going to do some serious shoots this Thursday and Saturday...hope the camera brings out some wonderful results! icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Kagaya @ May 27 2009, 12:33 AM)
At f1.8/f1.4, i think bokeh is effortless with lens of such spec but it's a prime 50mm... would be better if it got the same range as my kit lens 18~55mm and got f-stop of 2.8 and lower(which is bigger aperture).

Saw a Tamron with that spec but the price easily could help me get another D60, laugh.gif

Anyway, I am going to do some serious shoots this Thursday and Saturday...hope the camera brings out some wonderful results! icon_rolleyes.gif
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I might want to get a prime lens. I am not very funded so I am considering 35mm F1.8G and 50 mm F1.8D, both below 1k. Which one will you recommend?
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QUOTE(zellleonhart @ May 27 2009, 12:53 AM)
I might want to get a prime lens. I am not very funded so I am considering 35mm F1.8G and 50 mm F1.8D, both below 1k. Which one will you recommend?
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Surely 35mm. This lens can AF with ur D40. 50mm F1.8 cant AF
The IQ of the 35mm is pretty good
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r u sure the new 35mm F/2.8G is below 1k


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I've got both the 35 and the 50 f1.8. To me the 35 f1.8 is more useful the 50mm is a bit too narrow for me.
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Good. 35mm is wider... If not shoot chicks in pc fair (example) need to move backwards >.<
I see how first, since Im going into university soon... Might not be buying so soon... Collect money first XD
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QUOTE(project-o @ May 27 2009, 12:45 PM)
I've got both the 35 and the 50 f1.8. To me the 35 f1.8 is more useful the 50mm is a bit too narrow for me.
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I only have 50mm f1.8d.. never try 35mm f1.8G.
any 35mm f1.8G sample?
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http://photomalaysia.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70342

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QUOTE(kimurastanley @ May 27 2009, 06:15 PM)
Yes, absolutely agree with u
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QUOTE(shutterdll @ May 27 2009, 09:31 PM)
rclxms.gif we shud all go shoot pcfair next time together


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the pictures are a bit soft and grainy...composition is good btw..
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One from me.... test shot
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Did you PP that photo or she is really that good or it's purely equipment and your skill? Damn cun!
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the pictures are a bit soft and grainy...composition is good btw..
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QUOTE(shinchan^^ @ May 27 2009, 10:20 AM)
r u sure the new 35mm F/2.8G is below 1k


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i thought it's rm 780? oh maybe the price went up
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i thought it's rm 780? oh maybe the price went up
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d40 owner..put me in da list smile.gif

planning to get flash gun..confuse either to get nissin di622 or di466. What about metz mecablitz 36?


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that was the price a couple of shops in KL quoted me when it first came out
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QUOTE(blitzy @ May 28 2009, 07:47 PM)
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QUOTE(shutterdll @ May 28 2009, 10:10 PM)
trying Portraiture again  biggrin.gif  this time with Noiseware to reduce the noise
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Try Noise Ninja... fast and good.
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So much PP done that she looks like a mannequin. Too much PP here.
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QUOTE(mensa @ May 28 2009, 02:45 PM)
d40 owner..put me in da list smile.gif

planning to get flash gun..confuse either to get nissin di622 or di466. What about metz mecablitz 36?


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My D60 just gave me a problem. When i turn the lense to 55, i look through the viewfinder, the image keep shaking non-stop. Is something like the auto-focus is stuck. It creeps me off. Wats is the problem??
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If I'm not mistaken the head of the Di-622 is larger than the SB-600 so it would look bulky.
QUOTE(aaron1kee @ May 29 2009, 11:24 AM)
di622 will look very bulky on your D40. Seriously.  smile.gif
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QUOTE(project-o @ May 29 2009, 11:45 AM)
If I'm not mistaken the head of the Di-622 is larger than the SB-600 so it would look bulky.
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Indeed very bulky. i am a D40+ Di622 user. When you sling the D40 mounted wih di622 on your neck the di622 which is heavy will make the whole camera points downwards, which is kinda weird and bulky. The lens is pointing downwards instead of forward =.=
But performance wise Di622 serves me well, I haven't tried Sb600, because I can't afford it and I don't have friends who own it...
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QUOTE(zellleonhart @ May 29 2009, 12:12 PM)
Indeed very bulky. i am a D40+ Di622 user. When you sling the D40 mounted wih di622 on your neck the di622 which is heavy will make the whole camera points downwards, which is kinda weird and bulky. The lens is pointing downwards instead of forward =.=
But performance wise Di622 serves me well, I haven't tried Sb600, because I can't afford it and I don't have friends who own it...
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I'm using SB-600. Actually SB-600 also make D60 points downward. But not sure whether SB-600 or Nissin di622 is bulkier.
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Can add a 3rd party battery grip to balance... but will be heavy on your neck.
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I think Di622 bulkier. It doesn't match the look of D40! Hmm maybe later i post a picture here, but not now, cuz I already packed my camera bag and i am going out later.. Lazy take out..
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QUOTE(zellleonhart @ May 29 2009, 01:05 PM)
I think Di622 bulkier. It doesn't match the look of D40! Hmm maybe later i post a picture here, but not now, cuz I already packed my camera bag and i am going out later.. Lazy take out..
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I'll also post a pic of D60 plus SB-600 to compare with zelleon Nissin
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Here you go, D40+ Di622 mounted.
Sorry for bad image quality, i not familiar with my sis's PNS.
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Bulky huh!
And nissin looks cheap... Sb600 looks pro T_T

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Here's D60 with SB-600
My handphone camera sucks
Looks like Nissin is much more bulky than SB-600

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yesterday went to shop ask... AFS 35mm can get around RM790 but most of the time no stock....

SB-600 also RM790...same price as the 35mm lens...hehe...

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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ May 29 2009, 03:30 PM)
yesterday went to shop ask... AFS 35mm can get around RM790 but most of the time no stock....

SB-600 also RM790...same price as the 35mm lens...hehe...
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of course the SB-600...last unit available...i just grab first hehe...
9/10 ppl i ask all recommend get the flash first... takkan still dowan to listen?
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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ May 29 2009, 04:05 PM)
of course the SB-600...last unit available...i just grab first hehe...
9/10 ppl i ask all recommend get the flash first... takkan still dowan to listen?
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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ May 29 2009, 04:05 PM)
of course the SB-600...last unit available...i just grab first hehe...
9/10 ppl i ask all recommend get the flash first... takkan still dowan to listen?
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What lens is that ? Looks like a Sigma lens.
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Here's D60 with SB-600
My handphone camera sucks
Looks like Nissin is much more bulky than SB-600
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What lens is that ? Looks like a Sigma lens.
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guys...what could be the problem for this? look at my pics...i just notice that there is a dark blur line at each of my pics...at the bottom right corner....

my friend told me not possible sensor because if dead pixel..it won't be like this....i can see clear dark black spots instead....

but this one...he suspect is a hair ??????


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Try cleaning out the lens and the camera using a blower. Make sure you turn the body mount facing down when you blow. If it goes away that means that the lens or the sensor is dirty. But to me it doesn't look like dead pixels.
QUOTE(kevyeoh @ May 30 2009, 12:31 AM)
guys...what could be the problem for this? look at my pics...i just notice that there is a dark blur line at each of my pics...at the bottom right corner....

my friend told me not possible sensor because if dead pixel..it won't be like this....i can see clear dark black spots instead....

but this one...he suspect is a hair ??????
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For bodies, it's easy. For the current line up, any body above D300 including itself is weather sealed.

For lenses on the other hand, Nikon doesn't have an official way to name a lens if it's weather proof. At the moment, you can only try looking in the Key Features description for any particular lens at their website. and look for "Rugged construction with professional-grade dust and moisture resistance" in one of the bullets. Or try searching for the word moisture in the description.

QUOTE(kevyeoh @ May 30 2009, 12:31 AM)
guys...what could be the problem for this? look at my pics...i just notice that there is a dark blur line at each of my pics...at the bottom right corner....

my friend told me not possible sensor because if dead pixel..it won't be like this....i can see clear dark black spots instead....

but this one...he suspect is a hair ??????
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My only guess is there a strand of lint/hair on the sensor. You should get your sensor cleaned.
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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ May 30 2009, 12:31 AM)
guys...what could be the problem for this? look at my pics...i just notice that there is a dark blur line at each of my pics...at the bottom right corner....

my friend told me not possible sensor because if dead pixel..it won't be like this....i can see clear dark black spots instead....

but this one...he suspect is a hair ??????
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Try to blow the sensor and see how
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Anybody here uses a 3rd Party battery grip on a D60?

I've been to digital mall and checked out the item and I find the plastic is really flimsy and not quite suited for the job to be mounted to the camera, relying solely on the tripod screwmount.

Anyone know, besides Shashinki.com, to get cheap but authentic Lowepro gears, flashes and battery grip?

And a crystal screen protector for the D60.
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sharing some pics from my last shooting session.
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Used to have a YXTM battery grip for D40 (same as D60) looks flimsy but when you mount it on... it is ok. I think the main problem is that bodies like D60/D40X/D40/D5000 are not designed to use a battery grip.


QUOTE(Kagaya @ May 30 2009, 05:52 PM)
Anybody here uses a 3rd Party battery grip on a D60?

I've been to digital mall and checked out the item and I find the plastic is really flimsy and not quite suited for the job to be mounted to the camera, relying solely on the tripod screwmount.

Anyone know, besides Shashinki.com, to get cheap but authentic Lowepro gears, flashes and battery grip?

And a crystal screen protector for the D60.
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QUOTE(project-o @ May 30 2009, 08:12 PM)
Used to have a YXTM battery grip for D40 (same as D60) looks flimsy but when you mount it on... it is ok. I think the main problem is that bodies like D60/D40X/D40/D5000 are not designed to use a battery grip.
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means D40/D40X/D60/D5000 dun have Nikon battery grip designed for them?

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QUOTE(General_Nic @ May 30 2009, 08:36 PM)
means D40/D40X/D60/D5000 dun have Nikon battery grip designed for them?
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Yes, it's true, Nikon never made any battery grips for this line of cameras.
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I also think D60/D40 is not suitable for battery grip. It's built for light weight, as what I like bout D60
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I also think D60/D40 is not suitable for battery grip. It's built for light weight, as what I like bout D60
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That is true. But some like the vertical shutter button and also extra battery life.
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do adding vertical grip increase stability n photo quality significantly?
maybe Nikon dont come out grips for entry level dslr cos most likely beginners dun nid it?
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do adding vertical grip increase stability n photo quality significantly?
maybe Nikon dont come out grips for entry level dslr cos most likely beginners dun nid it?
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Stability yes but battery grip will not affect the photo quality
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QUOTE(General_Nic @ May 30 2009, 11:10 PM)
do adding vertical grip increase stability n photo quality significantly?
maybe Nikon dont come out grips for entry level dslr cos most likely beginners dun nid it?
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But some people invest more in lenses and accessories rather than the camera body! They should release battery grips for D40/x And D60!!
Cuz..
Im using D40 also T_T
Phottix brand got battery grip for D40?
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QUOTE(zellleonhart @ May 30 2009, 11:26 PM)
But some people invest more in lenses and accessories rather than the camera body! They should release battery grips for D40/x And D60!!
Cuz..
Im using D40 also T_T
Phottix brand got battery grip for D40?
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Phottix got battery grip for D40. It's the same with D60
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QUOTE(kimurastanley @ May 30 2009, 11:25 PM)
Stability yes but battery grip will not affect the photo quality
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i mean stability affects the outcome photo rite?
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QUOTE(General_Nic @ May 30 2009, 11:36 PM)
i mean stability affects the outcome photo rite?
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battery grip will give u more stability, and less blur if ur hand not stable.
VR lens should be enough to reduce blur.
If u feel comfortable with battery grip and can reduce hand shake, then no harm to get one
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really poisoned by 35mm f1.8!
anyone thatis using the lense?
care sharing some pics?
now deciding which one to get
35mm f1.8 or 50mm f1.4 need t test both b4 getting
but i got to know fr a source tht longer the focal length better the bokehness!
can someone clarify please?
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QUOTE(mixologist84 @ May 31 2009, 02:30 AM)
really poisoned by 35mm f1.8!
anyone thatis using the lense?
care sharing some pics?
now deciding which one to get
35mm f1.8 or 50mm f1.4 need t test both b4 getting
but i got to know fr a source tht longer the focal length better the bokehness!
can someone clarify please?
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but i think 50mm need more space for u to move back sad.gif
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QUOTE(mixologist84 @ May 31 2009, 02:30 AM)
really poisoned by 35mm f1.8!
anyone thatis using the lense?
care sharing some pics?
now deciding which one to get
35mm f1.8 or 50mm f1.4 need t test both b4 getting
but i got to know fr a source tht longer the focal length better the bokehness!
can someone clarify please?
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50mm f1.4 cost almost double compared with 35mm f1.8
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There are a few samples a few pages back.... anyway focal length is only one of the factors. The diaphragm blades and the f-stop are other factors that affect the bokeh. My suggestion is that if you have the budget to go for the 50mm f1.4... you test out the Sigma one first then only test the Nikons then only decide which one you are comfortable with.
QUOTE(mixologist84 @ May 31 2009, 02:30 AM)
really poisoned by 35mm f1.8!
anyone thatis using the lense?
care sharing some pics?
now deciding which one to get
35mm f1.8 or 50mm f1.4 need t test both b4 getting
but i got to know fr a source tht longer the focal length better the bokehness!
can someone clarify please?
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QUOTE(project-o @ May 31 2009, 11:01 AM)
There are a few samples a few pages back.... anyway focal length is only one of the factors. The diaphragm blades and the f-stop are other factors that affect the bokeh. My suggestion is that if you have the budget to go for the 50mm f1.4... you test out the Sigma one first then only test the Nikons then only decide which one you are comfortable with.
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There's Sigma 30mm f/1.4 which can be tried out
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ok guys... i'm like a few days old into this whole DSLR thingie and i just read the user guide for D40 from kenrockwell's website...basically i've tried applying all the basic settings that he recommends...

so here's some pics taken and i wanna ask, how come my pics all appear dark? i have SB600 and i tried pointing it to the ceiling to bounce...but then doesn't seem to have any impact at all on the subject...

in fact...i have to use image editing software to edit the brightness and contrast....

attached are some pics showing the original pic taken using my d40 and the ones edited via software....

p/s...i notice that if i want bright pics....i have to use manual mode...and then try to adjust my shutter speed around 10-15... and then the aperture i just try to use the lowest that i can...but when i try to zoom...the smallest aperture size available gets bigger than normal...

so how do i capture great pics of my baby daughter?
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appreciate inputs from all d40 users out there.... btw...the reason i bought my SB-600 is becoz i hope to be able to bounce the flash and not directly take my pics through direct flash...if i have wanted direct flash...i would have use the normal point and shoot....

thanks again....


Added on May 31, 2009, 12:17 pmhard to find ready stock...i've been to shops and they told me no stock now... tongue.gif

QUOTE(mixologist84 @ May 31 2009, 02:30 AM)
really poisoned by 35mm f1.8!
anyone thatis using the lense?
care sharing some pics?
now deciding which one to get
35mm f1.8 or 50mm f1.4 need t test both b4 getting
but i got to know fr a source tht longer the focal length better the bokehness!
can someone clarify please?
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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ May 31 2009, 12:15 PM)
ok guys... i'm like a few days old into this whole DSLR thingie and i just read the user guide for D40 from kenrockwell's website...basically i've tried applying all the basic settings that he recommends...

so here's some pics taken and i wanna ask, how come my pics all appear dark? i have SB600 and i tried pointing it to the ceiling to bounce...but then doesn't seem to have any impact at all on the subject...

in fact...i have to use image editing software to edit the brightness and contrast....

attached are some pics showing the original pic taken using my d40 and the ones edited via software....

p/s...i notice that if i want bright pics....i have to use manual mode...and then try to adjust my shutter speed around 10-15... and then the aperture i just try to use the lowest that i can...but when i try to zoom...the smallest aperture size available gets bigger than normal...

so how do i capture great pics of my baby daughter?
smile.gif

appreciate inputs from all d40 users out there....  btw...the reason i bought my SB-600 is becoz i hope to be able to bounce the flash and not directly take my pics through direct flash...if i have wanted direct flash...i would have use the normal point and shoot....

thanks again....


Added on May 31, 2009, 12:17 pmhard to find ready stock...i've been to shops and they told me no stock now... tongue.gif
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i got the same problem too...
but outdoors and no external flash la
maybe mine is bcos that time it was cloudy?


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The aperture and ISO settings will affect the flash exposure, so better share the settings of the camera
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ok...from the file properties....

top left pic
f-stop: f/5.6
Exposure bias: -0.7step
Exposure time: 1/20sec
ISO Speed: ISO-1100
Focal length: 85mm
Max aperture: 5


Bottom left pic:
F-stop: f/5.6
Exposure time: 1/10s
ISO speed: ISO-200
Exposure bias: -0.7 step
Focal length: 1.5mm
Max aperture: 5

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I'm guessing it is because of the Exposure Bias Setting. It should be at 0EV (-0.7 is 2/3 of a stop under expose). What lens are you using ?
Another thing you can do is add a bounce card to the flash if the ceiling is too high.
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ok...from the file properties....

top left pic
f-stop: f/5.6
Exposure bias: -0.7step
Exposure time: 1/20sec
ISO Speed: ISO-1100
Focal length: 85mm
Max aperture: 5
Bottom left pic:
F-stop: f/5.6
Exposure time: 1/10s
ISO speed: ISO-200
Exposure bias: -0.7 step
Focal length: 1.5mm
Max aperture: 5
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Try restore the exposure bias to 0eV and try
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QUOTE(zellleonhart @ May 29 2009, 12:12 PM)
Indeed very bulky. i am a D40+ Di622 user. When you sling the D40 mounted wih di622 on your neck the di622 which is heavy will make the whole camera points downwards, which is kinda weird and bulky. The lens is pointing downwards instead of forward =.=
But performance wise Di622 serves me well, I haven't tried Sb600, because I can't afford it and I don't have friends who own it...
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yeah.. but i use cybertik mz45 flash.. combined with the almost half a kilogram of tamron 17-50 f2.8 it points down like there's no tomorrow.

even without the flash it points down too... maybe i need a battery grip..to balance it out
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Tamron 17-50 f2.8.... rich we are tongue.gif

How's the performance of the 17-50 f2.8 ?
QUOTE(alpha_company @ May 31 2009, 05:23 PM)
yeah.. but i use cybertik mz45 flash.. combined with the almost half a kilogram of tamron 17-50 f2.8 it points down like there's no tomorrow.

even without the flash it points down too... maybe i need a battery grip..to balance it out
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thought of getting the 18-200VR for wedding shots. but a lot of people recommend me to get the tamron 1750 f2.8. glad i did.

for close up pics, f2.8 is fine, but for normal portrait wedding shots, the sharpest pic u can get with this lens is at f4-f5.6.

but one thing about it though, comparing it against my friend's nikon 18-55 & tamron 70-300 and my previously owned nikon 55-200VR, you will notice that it weighs a lot...man is it heavy.
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QUOTE(alpha_company @ May 31 2009, 05:47 PM)
thought of getting the 18-200VR for wedding shots. but a lot of people recommend me to get the tamron 1750 f2.8. glad i did.

for close up pics, f2.8 is fine, but for normal portrait wedding shots, the sharpest pic u can get with this lens is at f4-f5.6.

but one thing about it though, comparing it against my friend's nikon 18-55 & tamron 70-300 and my previously owned nikon 55-200VR, you will notice that it weighs a lot...man is it heavy.
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18-200VR is out of the question.... it is expensive.. and not as sharp as the Tamron 17-50. Only thing that I didn't really like about it was that the built in motor is quite slow (as in slower than 18-135). So other than the 17-50 ... you don't have a Tele lens..or a Super wide ?
QUOTE(alpha_company @ May 31 2009, 05:47 PM)
thought of getting the 18-200VR for wedding shots. but a lot of people recommend me to get the tamron 1750 f2.8. glad i did.

for close up pics, f2.8 is fine, but for normal portrait wedding shots, the sharpest pic u can get with this lens is at f4-f5.6.

but one thing about it though, comparing it against my friend's nikon 18-55 & tamron 70-300 and my previously owned nikon 55-200VR, you will notice that it weighs a lot...man is it heavy.
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QUOTE(project-o @ May 31 2009, 05:56 PM)
18-200VR is out of the question.... it is expensive.. and not as sharp as the Tamron 17-50. Only thing that I didn't really like about it was that the built in motor is quite slow (as in slower than 18-135). So other than the 17-50 ... you don't have a Tele lens..or a Super wide ?
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no uwa-ultra wide lens.. dont need it anyways..

thinking of getting a tele 70-300 VRii lens...but still not sure as i need to buy a dslr bagpack and battery grip.
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Better to get a backpack..and the grip if it is useful. Too bad my sold already or else would offer you a good price smile.gif
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y did u sell yours?

what brand?

what backpack you guys recommend?

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Mine was a YXTM grip. Most of the brands are about the same. Sold it b'cos I didn't need it anymore and the vertical shutter button was not as useful as I thought. After selling this and kit lens went and got 35 f1.8 lens.
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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ May 31 2009, 01:42 PM)
ok...from the file properties....

top left pic
f-stop: f/5.6
Exposure bias: -0.7step
Exposure time: 1/20sec
ISO Speed: ISO-1100
Focal length: 85mm
Max aperture: 5
Bottom left pic:
F-stop: f/5.6
Exposure time: 1/10s
ISO speed: ISO-200
Exposure bias: -0.7 step
Focal length: 1.5mm
Max aperture: 5
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1/10s must have very steady hand and the baby cannot move too much.
invest in external flash will help a lot thumbup.gif
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the vertical shutter no use because cant af.

yxtm? not phottix ka?

google and see OWNUSER (nice grip design) biggrin.gif), Phottix & the d60 grip with lcd on the back..

heard from my friend got a new d60 grip from meike.
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YXTM, Phottix, Hahnel and another brand "Battery Grip" are about the same.. look about the same... price about the same except Hahnel a bit higher b'cos with spare battery and remote. I've heard of Ownuser grips and seen pics but have not seen the real thing.
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QUOTE(shutterdll @ May 31 2009, 06:23 PM)
1/10s must have very steady hand and the baby cannot move too much.
invest in external flash will help a lot  thumbup.gif
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He's indeed using the SB-600 to shoot. Only problem is the pics still underexposed
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QUOTE(kimurastanley @ May 31 2009, 07:00 PM)
He's indeed using the SB-600 to shoot. Only problem is the pics still underexposed
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maybe SB-600 not powerful enaf? laugh.gif

lol, jz jk, no harm meant tongue.gif
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QUOTE(General_Nic @ May 31 2009, 07:18 PM)
maybe SB-600 not powerful enaf?  laugh.gif

lol, jz jk, no harm meant  tongue.gif
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may be the exposure bias was turned to -0.7 that causes this
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Guys, I got a friend who want to sell SB600 for price range between RM450-RM500 he said. He's still thinking about it. Should I go for it?The condition is overall still good. 9/10 if I might say. blush.gif
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yea it is cheap..IF the condition is good.
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QUOTE(Firdaus92 @ May 31 2009, 08:07 PM)
Guys, I got a friend who want to sell SB600 for price range between RM450-RM500 he said. He's still thinking about it. Should I go for it?The condition is overall still good. 9/10 if I might say.  blush.gif
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if the condition is still good, that's a pretty cheap price for a second hand SB-600. Jst go for it
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QUOTE(Firdaus92 @ May 31 2009, 08:07 PM)
Guys, I got a friend who want to sell SB600 for price range between RM450-RM500 he said. He's still thinking about it. Should I go for it?The condition is overall still good. 9/10 if I might say.  blush.gif
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aiya, almost wanted buy SB-600 jz now...
but in the end cant tahan temptation ambik SB-900 doh.gif tongue.gif
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Wahh! You're so rich! SB600 and SB900 like comparing Ferrari with Proton Savyy sweat.gif How much u bought the SB900?? thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Firdaus92 @ May 31 2009, 08:15 PM)
Wahh! You're so rich! SB600 and SB900 like comparing Ferrari with Proton Savyy sweat.gif How much u bought the SB900?? thumbup.gif
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lol, using Ferrari & Proton comparison macam compare PnS cams wif D3X lor sweat.gif
i got it at RM1680
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QUOTE(General_Nic @ May 31 2009, 08:18 PM)
lol, using Ferrari & Proton comparison macam compare PnS cams wif D3X lor  sweat.gif
i got it at RM1680
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OMG, the best flash in Nikon range now.
Enjoy playing with ur new toy
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Wahh~ RM1.6k?Anyways, have lots of fun with your new gadgets! Really envy you tongue.gif Anyways, i've been searching for an overall lens on the Internet. Nikon 18-200mm VR is my choice but it's too expensive. How about the Tamron 18-270mm?I heard it's good. Around rm1.7k right? blush.gif
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Tamron is about 1.8K last I saw. But I think you can consider the 18-135 or the 18-105VR. Both are very sharp lenses.
QUOTE(Firdaus92 @ May 31 2009, 08:27 PM)
Wahh~ RM1.6k?Anyways, have lots of fun with your new gadgets! Really envy you tongue.gif Anyways, i've been searching for an overall lens on the Internet. Nikon 18-200mm VR is my choice but it's too expensive. How about the Tamron 18-270mm?I heard it's good. Around rm1.7k right? blush.gif
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QUOTE(kimurastanley @ May 31 2009, 08:21 PM)
OMG, the best flash in Nikon range now.
Enjoy playing with ur new toy
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QUOTE(Firdaus92 @ May 31 2009, 08:27 PM)
Wahh~ RM1.6k?Anyways, have lots of fun with your new gadgets! Really envy you tongue.gif Anyways, i've been searching for an overall lens on the Internet. Nikon 18-200mm VR is my choice but it's too expensive. How about the Tamron 18-270mm?I heard it's good. Around rm1.7k right? blush.gif
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will definitely have fun wif it! thumbup.gif

btw, if kevyeoh's low exposure problems is the exposure bias,
how about mine?
my photos were taken in auto mode
it was yesterday morning 8-10am, outdoors n weather cloudy

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top is original pic, bottom is after photoshoping
y so dark? cos cloudy?
cant b gua, cos wif eyes the surrounding r not that dark
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I'm guessing is that it is the meter. Meter is not 100% accurate. From the shadows I'm guessing that the background is brighter (from the girls' t-shirts) in these situations you should turn the flash on as a "fill" light. Anyway you can try using "P" instead of "Auto".
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QUOTE(Firdaus92 @ May 31 2009, 08:27 PM)
Wahh~ RM1.6k?Anyways, have lots of fun with your new gadgets! Really envy you tongue.gif Anyways, i've been searching for an overall lens on the Internet. Nikon 18-200mm VR is my choice but it's too expensive. How about the Tamron 18-270mm?I heard it's good. Around rm1.7k right? blush.gif
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the Tamron 18270VC is priced at 2.5 to 2.7k..
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QUOTE(Firdaus92 @ May 31 2009, 08:27 PM)
Wahh~ RM1.6k?Anyways, have lots of fun with your new gadgets! Really envy you tongue.gif Anyways, i've been searching for an overall lens on the Internet. Nikon 18-200mm VR is my choice but it's too expensive. How about the Tamron 18-270mm?I heard it's good. Around rm1.7k right? blush.gif
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Tamron 18-270mm is little bit cheaper than Nikkor 18-200mm. Sharpness is good throughout all focal length. Only problem is AF sucks in low light condition. VC works like a charm, even better than VR


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QUOTE(General_Nic @ May 31 2009, 08:37 PM)
will definitely have fun wif it!  thumbup.gif

btw, if kevyeoh's low exposure problems is the exposure bias,
how about mine?
my photos were taken in auto mode
it was yesterday morning 8-10am, outdoors n weather cloudy

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top is original pic, bottom is after photoshoping
y so dark? cos cloudy?
cant b gua, cos wif eyes the surrounding r not that dark
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The white shirts 2 girls wearing fool the metering system of the camera. U can increase the exposure compensation to make it brighter.
Usually i'll look at the photo after i take it and adjust accordingly and take the second shoot if not satisfied with the first one

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QUOTE(General_Nic @ May 31 2009, 08:37 PM)
will definitely have fun wif it!  thumbup.gif

btw, if kevyeoh's low exposure problems is the exposure bias,
how about mine?
my photos were taken in auto mode
it was yesterday morning 8-10am, outdoors n weather cloudy

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


top is original pic, bottom is after photoshoping
y so dark? cos cloudy?
cant b gua, cos wif eyes the surrounding r not that dark
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use A mode, let shutter adjust itself. u can enable Auto ISO too.


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QUOTE(General_Nic @ May 31 2009, 08:37 PM)
will definitely have fun wif it!  thumbup.gif

btw, if kevyeoh's low exposure problems is the exposure bias,
how about mine?
my photos were taken in auto mode
it was yesterday morning 8-10am, outdoors n weather cloudy

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y so dark? cos cloudy?
cant b gua, cos wif eyes the surrounding r not that dark
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Did you use flash to fill flash? Even with exposure 0 EV, the shadow on the girls' face should be eliminated by fill flash...
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QUOTE(project-o @ May 31 2009, 08:47 PM)
I'm guessing is that it is the meter. Meter is not 100% accurate. From the shadows I'm guessing that the background is brighter (from the girls' t-shirts) in these situations you should turn the flash on as a "fill" light. Anyway you can try using "P" instead of "Auto".
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i was rushing here and there taking pics, no time change settings, so i used Auto tongue.gif

QUOTE(kimurastanley @ May 31 2009, 08:51 PM)
The white shirts 2 girls wearing fool the metering system of the camera. U can increase the exposure compensation to make it brighter.
Usually i'll look at the photo after i take it and adjust accordingly and take the second shoot if not satisfied with the first one
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i think the white shirts r not the problem, cos many other pics of people in other color shirts oso gave same results
maybe is becos the area is a basketball court, and the floor is grey cement?

QUOTE(shutterdll @ May 31 2009, 09:24 PM)
use A mode, let shutter adjust itself. u can enable Auto ISO too.


the ISO was auto, even if manually set highest still same

btw, nice pics u have there! thumbup.gif

QUOTE(zellleonhart @ May 31 2009, 10:47 PM)
Did you use flash to fill flash? Even with exposure 0 EV, the shadow on the girls' face should be eliminated by fill flash...
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Auto mode...
flash din auto light up...
n wanted save battery, so din manually on flash...

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Fill flash mean fire flash but with lower flash compensation?
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QUOTE(shinjun @ May 31 2009, 10:59 PM)
Fill flash mean fire flash but with lower flash compensation?
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No, fill flash (in his case) means fire flash towards the face of the girls so that the shadow on the face can be eliminated. In his pic the shadows are covering the details in the face, so fill flash will be a good idea.

Someone correct me if i'm wrong in my explanation, I am not good in explaining sweat.gif

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QUOTE(zellleonhart @ May 31 2009, 11:06 PM)
No, fill flash (in his case) means fire flash towards the face of the girls so that the shadow on the face can be eliminated. In his pic the shadows are covering the details in the face, so fill flash will be a good idea.

Someone correct me if i'm wrong in my explanation, I am not good in explaining  sweat.gif
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dude...if the condition is 9/10 as per what you said, even RM500 is worth grabbing...

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Guys, I got a friend who want to sell SB600 for price range between RM450-RM500 he said. He's still thinking about it. Should I go for it?The condition is overall still good. 9/10 if I might say.  blush.gif
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QUOTE(shutterdll @ May 31 2009, 09:24 PM)
use A mode, let shutter adjust itself. u can enable Auto ISO too.


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got flash d, so next target is lens! tongue.gif
can i know which is the cheapest all-rounder lens?
if cheap not good, which is the best at the cheapest?
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18105 or 18200....get Sigma 18200 cheap good and sharp. around 1.7k... if u can pay 2600..get nikkor 18200..lol

Newest Tamron 18270 not bad too..but it hunts in low light situation.
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Which kind of lens are you looking for... and what lens do you have at the moment ? If cheap, sharp and with VR, I recommend the new 18-105VR (D90 kit lens).
QUOTE(General_Nic @ Jun 1 2009, 12:19 AM)
got flash d, so next target is lens!  tongue.gif
can i know which is the cheapest all-rounder lens?
if cheap not good, which is the best at the cheapest?
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I'm using Sigma 18-200mm. I bought a used one in cheap price, but still like new cos only 3 months old. With that price, I'm satisfied with the pics I shoot with that lens. If u gt fund, get a Nikkor 18-200 or Tamron 18-270 VC
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QUOTE(AlphaBeta @ Jun 1 2009, 12:23 AM)
18105 or 18200....get Sigma 18200 cheap good and sharp. around 1.7k... if u can pay 2600..get nikkor 18200..lol

Newest Tamron 18270 not bad too..but it hunts in low light situation.
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will consider your suggestion, thx thumbup.gif

QUOTE(project-o @ Jun 1 2009, 12:26 AM)
Which kind of lens are you looking for... and what lens do you have at the moment ? If cheap, sharp and with VR, I recommend the new 18-105VR (D90 kit lens).
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i only have kit lens, 18-55...
i wan a multi focal lens suitable for most shootings, such as 18-200mm
cos i dun wanna carry many lens n keep changing lens
pls dun advise me on quality yet, cos im still newbie, most important i wan 1st is convenience icon_rolleyes.gif



Edited* forgot to add, i nid 1 wif built-in AF motor, n i prefer have VC/VR

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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Jun 1 2009, 12:31 AM)
will consider your suggestion, thx  thumbup.gif
i only have kit lens, 18-55...
i wan a multi focal lens suitable for most shootings, such as 18-200mm
cos i dun wanna carry many lens n keep changing lens
pls dun advise me on quality yet, cos im still newbie, most important i wan 1st is convenience  icon_rolleyes.gif
Edited* forgot to add, i nid 1 wif built-in AF motor, n i prefer have VC/VR
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18-105mm & 18-200mm Nikkor has VR
Tamron 18-270mm got VC and built in motor for AF
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Any downside wif the Sigma 18-200?
y Nikkor so expensive?
Tamron 18-270 AF in lowlight really bad?

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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Jun 1 2009, 01:47 AM)
Any downside wif the Sigma 18-200?
y Nikkor so expensive?
Tamron 18-270 AF in lowlight really bad?
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Downside of Sigma is it's soft at 80-135mm. However sharp at both ends and AF is fast.
Nikkor lens is always expensive compared with third party.

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Nikkor.. expensive b'cos it is NIKKOR you pay for the name and the build quality. Tamron.. AF speed is generally slower than Sigma (HSM) or Nikkor (SWM) that use USM (Ultrasonic Motor) which is a full ring type motor. Tamron uses a "micro motor" which is like a small screwdriver.

Any lens you buy also there will be compromise. It is only whether you can accept or not at the price that you are paying. Best is to test it out yourself. What may be acceptable to you..may not be to me or another member and vice versa.
QUOTE(General_Nic @ Jun 1 2009, 01:47 AM)
Any downside wif the Sigma 18-200?
y Nikkor so expensive?
Tamron 18-270 AF in lowlight really bad?
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Added on June 1, 2009, 2:29 amThis problem is not only for Sigma but for most of the "superzoom" lenses. They normally have a "soft spot" in the middle of the zoom range. And all have bad barrel distortion at the wide end.
QUOTE(kimurastanley @ Jun 1 2009, 02:22 AM)
Downside of Sigma is it's soft at 80-135mm. However sharp at both ends and AF is fast.
Nikkor lens is always expensive compared with third party.
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Tamron and Nikkor are sharper than Sigma at the middle range..

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If I'm not mistaken, you won't be charged if your camera is still in warranty. Guys, my hard disk is running out of space, what happen if i compress my photo?
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just bought d60.. thinking of getting 50mm lense wub.gif ... any suggestion? some of 50mm lense may require manual focus rite?

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I think better you get the 35mm F/1.8D if i'm not mistaken. That model can AF on D60! icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Firdaus92 @ Jun 1 2009, 03:38 PM)
If I'm not mistaken, you won't be charged if your camera is still in warranty. Guys, my hard disk is running out of space, what happen if i compress my photo?
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but will they take long? i need it back in 2 weeks time....

QUOTE(sprix @ Jun 1 2009, 04:23 PM)
just bought d60.. thinking of getting 50mm lense  wub.gif ... any suggestion? some of 50mm lense may require manual focus rite?
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yeah...double the cost...but still worth...
manual focusing wont be easy, especially if u r person wit spec....
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35mm lens now no stock also...very very hard to buy...
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nope.. i think.. that should not be a problem.. coz im quite familiar with manual focus.. along time ago.. my father had a camera with manual focus and it pretty fun to use... but just need some time to get a quality picture.. huhu.. anyway.. how much 35mm F/1.8D?

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QUOTE(sprix @ Jun 1 2009, 05:18 PM)
nope.. i think.. that should not be a problem.. coz im quite familiar with manual focus.. along time ago.. my father had a camera with manual focus and it pretty fun to use... but just need some time to get a quality picture.. huhu..  anyway.. how much 35mm F/1.8D?
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QUOTE(Firdaus92 @ May 31 2009, 08:27 PM)
Wahh~ RM1.6k?Anyways, have lots of fun with your new gadgets! Really envy you tongue.gif Anyways, i've been searching for an overall lens on the Internet. Nikon 18-200mm VR is my choice but it's too expensive. How about the Tamron 18-270mm?I heard it's good. Around rm1.7k right? blush.gif
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seriously? isnt the tamron 18-270 the same price as nikon 18200VR?


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QUOTE(General_Nic @ May 31 2009, 08:37 PM)
will definitely have fun wif it!  thumbup.gif

btw, if kevyeoh's low exposure problems is the exposure bias,
how about mine?
my photos were taken in auto mode
it was yesterday morning 8-10am, outdoors n weather cloudy

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top is original pic, bottom is after photoshoping
y so dark? cos cloudy?
cant b gua, cos wif eyes the surrounding r not that dark
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hmm..maybe use iso400 with fill flash..


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QUOTE(zellleonhart @ May 31 2009, 11:06 PM)
No, fill flash (in his case) means fire flash towards the face of the girls so that the shadow on the face can be eliminated. In his pic the shadows are covering the details in the face, so fill flash will be a good idea.

Someone correct me if i'm wrong in my explanation, I am not good in explaining  sweat.gif
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yup correct... avoid the panda eyes at all costs... dont want the shadows covering the lower part of the eyes.

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QUOTE(alpha_company @ Jun 1 2009, 06:02 PM)
seriously? isnt the tamron 18-270 the same price as nikon 18200VR?
Tamron 18-270mm VC same price with Nikon 18-200mm VR eh??Maybe I look at the price wrongly last time. Forgive me doh.gif
Anyways, guys, regarding my question earlier, what happen if i compress my picture to save hard disk space since I'm already running out of space now?Either JPEG or RAW picture. blush.gif
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QUOTE(Firdaus92 @ Jun 1 2009, 07:15 PM)
Tamron 18-270mm VC same price with Nikon 18-200mm VR eh??Maybe I look at the price wrongly last time. Forgive me doh.gif
Anyways, guys, regarding my question earlier, what happen if i compress my picture to save hard disk space since I'm already running out of space now?Either JPEG or RAW picture. blush.gif
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U now saving ur pictures in RAW format??
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QUOTE(Firdaus92 @ Jun 1 2009, 07:15 PM)
Tamron 18-270mm VC same price with Nikon 18-200mm VR eh??Maybe I look at the price wrongly last time. Forgive me doh.gif
Anyways, guys, regarding my question earlier, what happen if i compress my picture to save hard disk space since I'm already running out of space now?Either JPEG or RAW picture. blush.gif
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walau, RAW makan a lot memory leh...
not only hard disk not enaf, memory card limited pics... sweat.gif
y take pics in RAW in the 1st place if u gonna compress your RAW pics to JPEG now?
it defeats the purpose of taking in RAW...
n wat for have good cam that takes good pics but compress it later?
burn your pics into CDs or DVDs la, or invest buy another hard disk or an external hard disk
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yea only shoot in RAW if u want the maximum IQ and it has more details. So when u r PP-ing ur photo, u still have much details in there.
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By shooting RAW, u can control various settings like white balance, exposure and it's the uncompressed highest quality u can get
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so if wan compress to JPEG, compress after PP-ing
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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Jun 1 2009, 09:03 PM)
so if wan compress to JPEG, compress after PP-ing
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ya, compress after PP-ing the photo. Keep a original file after PP-ing so that the photo quality will no be degraded again and again after each PP-ing
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QUOTE(kimurastanley @ Jun 1 2009, 09:08 PM)
ya, compress after PP-ing the photo. Keep a original file after PP-ing so that the photo quality will no be degraded again and again after each PP-ing
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no problem doing that, if u got large space hard disk la tongue.gif
imagine keeping copies of pics from a D3X at full resolution, dunno how many hard disk sweat.gif
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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Jun 1 2009, 09:12 PM)
no problem doing that, if u got large space hard disk la  tongue.gif
imagine keeping copies of pics from a D3X at full resolution, dunno how many hard disk  sweat.gif
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QUOTE(kimurastanley @ Jun 1 2009, 09:25 PM)
Then have to spend more money for HDD biggrin.gif
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true, my anime,movies,music downloads + now camera pics = decreasing hdd space...
nid spend again, wallet feeling very empty... >.<

btw, i'll be in HK from 2moro for 9 days
await for my pics~! laugh.gif icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Jun 1 2009, 09:30 PM)
true, my anime,movies,music downloads + now camera pics = decreasing hdd space...
nid spend again, wallet feeling very empty... >.<

btw, i'll be in HK from 2moro for 9 days
await for my pics~!  laugh.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Take good photos there and take full use of ur SB-900. And come back and share ur pics here rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(AlphaBeta @ Jun 1 2009, 12:02 AM)
wht lens?? so soft...
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18-55mm soften with noiseware:D

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QUOTE(fosper @ Jun 1 2009, 10:00 PM)
Can someone help me?

Where can i buy a used/cheap portrait lens? Perhaps a minolta 50 f1.7?
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Try asking here. And look for one here. or search here.
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Haha. I'm just asking actually. So what will happen if i convert my now Jpeg to a smaller size?I use this software called PicaView32. My brother install it for me. It decrease the sizes of pictures but don't know what happen to the photo. Just asking is there any side effect? blush.gif
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QUOTE(Firdaus92 @ Jun 1 2009, 10:44 PM)
Haha. I'm just asking actually. So what will happen if i convert my now Jpeg to a smaller size?I use this software called PicaView32. My brother install it for me. It decrease the sizes of pictures but don't know what happen to the photo. Just asking is there any side effect? blush.gif
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u mean decrease photo file size or photo resolution size?

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QUOTE(Firdaus92 @ Jun 1 2009, 10:44 PM)
Haha. I'm just asking actually. So what will happen if i convert my now Jpeg to a smaller size?I use this software called PicaView32. My brother install it for me. It decrease the sizes of pictures but don't know what happen to the photo. Just asking is there any side effect? blush.gif
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Well it depends on how the program resizes it. It can reduce resolution or reduce jpeg quality. If reduce resolution, picture can still look sharp but if decrease quality, the picture may start looking fuzzy and pixelated better known as artifacts.
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It decrease the photo size. I don't know about the resolution but it greatly reduce the size. What do it do to those pictures eh?Delete some information in it?
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It decrease the photo size. I don't know about the resolution but it greatly reduce the size. What do it do to those pictures eh?Delete some information in it?
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Check the file properties and see if the resolution differs from the original file. What the program does? It compresses the photo with jpeg size reduction algorithm.
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if in daylight, shoot in jpeg. if difficult lightning, shoot in raw biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(Firdaus92 @ Jun 1 2009, 07:15 PM)
Tamron 18-270mm VC same price with Nikon 18-200mm VR eh??Maybe I look at the price wrongly last time. Forgive me doh.gif
Anyways, guys, regarding my question earlier, what happen if i compress my picture to save hard disk space since I'm already running out of space now?Either JPEG or RAW picture. blush.gif
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i like to shoot in RAW format...can have much more options when editing..RAW files are like the films of SLR cameras.

later transfer to PC, edit it as you'd like..then save as JPEG...if you think no need to edit again..can just delete the raw files.. it's what i do..


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no problem doing that, if u got large space hard disk la  tongue.gif
imagine keeping copies of pics from a D3X at full resolution, dunno how many hard disk  sweat.gif
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there's gonna be hardisk hell to pay...hehehe


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if in daylight, shoot in jpeg. if difficult lightning, shoot in raw biggrin.gif
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yup... i did this occasionally too.. though i like to shoot raw most of the time... so can do HDR, change exposure etc...etc..

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anybody here want to sell 50mm lens? huhu..
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QUOTE(sprix @ Jun 2 2009, 02:45 PM)
anybody here want to sell 50mm lens? huhu..
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u mean 50mm f/1.8D??
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yup.. any.. preferable that can AF with D60.. or any suggestion of lens that can give me a better portrait pic or low light.. then using standard lens?

opss.. forget to mention..that my budget is quite small.. sweat.gif blush.gif

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got!!! nikon AFS 35mm 1.8G, rm 780............. who in kuching can tell me where to get this lens!!!!! think currently this lens is too hot that is out of stock.
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QUOTE(windwong @ Jun 2 2009, 05:05 PM)
got!!! nikon AFS 35mm 1.8G, rm 780............. who in kuching can tell me where to get this lens!!!!! think currently this lens is too hot that is out of stock.
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Wow rm780.. Great deal! I want T_T
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QUOTE(sprix @ Jun 2 2009, 04:53 PM)
yup.. any.. preferable that can AF with D60.. or any suggestion of lens that can give me a better portrait pic or low light.. then using standard lens?

opss.. forget to mention..that my budget is quite small..  sweat.gif  blush.gif
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Then I suggest u go for AF-S 35mm f/1.8G which is reasonable cheap and produce good IQ

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nice shot..ur gf ar? but i would like to see more of her mouth..
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QUOTE(AlphaBeta @ Jun 2 2009, 06:54 PM)
nice shot..ur gf ar? but i would like to see more of her mouth..
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QUOTE(kimurastanley @ Jun 2 2009, 01:27 AM)
By the way, new Adobe Camera Raw can even change the white balance and exposure in JPG files. It's really convenient to have that function
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can change exposure? waaa.. ok tuh..really nice. is it free?

but i still think the information contained in jpeg is too little & less accurate compared to RAW
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can change exposure? waaa.. ok tuh..really nice. is it free?

but i still think the information contained in jpeg is too little & less accurate compared to RAW
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Ya. I've jst discovered that and now use it a lot on my JPEGs...
However it's not free, Camera RAW is in bundle with photoshop CS3. So u have to purchase photoshop CS3.
But I guess CS4 also got, so if u wanna purchase, jst purchase CS4, newer version
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can change exposure? waaa.. ok tuh..really nice. is it free?

but i still think the information contained in jpeg is too little & less accurate compared to RAW
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yup information will drop. but ok la if not printing or save as high resolution.
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For JPEG, I find that Adobe Lightroom 2 maintains most information and detail after resaving. Anyway if I'm not mistaken you can download the latest version of Camera RAW but you must have Photoshop or Lightroom installed.
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hi guys, just bought my D60 3 weeks ago. eventhough i bought 2nd hand unit,the camera works like charm and i couldnt stop play with it hehe... already bought raynox super macro adapter, couldnt wait to shoot macro huhuh... feel free to view my newbie gallery here http://www.flickr.com/photos/haziqphotography/ . hope can share knowledge from u guys!
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780... ermm... still.. that too much for me.. huhu.. mu budget is lower than that.. hahaha.. maybe i shud buy 50mm f1.8 only lo.. cost about 370 rite?

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sprix, you need to manual focus though... so do put this in mind...although you save half of the cost price...but you might need to more than double the effort to capture each shot next time... tongue.gif
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50mm equal to 75mm 35mm focal length. So it quite narrow for a potrait show IMHO
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so was it a misconception by many when a lot of ppl recommended 50mm for portrait? and in fact 35mm should be the more suitable lens for portrait... ???
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so was it a misconception by many when a lot of ppl recommended 50mm for portrait? and in fact 35mm should be the more suitable lens for portrait... ???
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That is not true. Some people even use 200mm for portraits! Any primes/fixed focal length can be used for portraits. Primes are usually used because they are much more sharper. Heck, some people use Tamron 90mm f/2.8 or Nikkor 105mm VR for portrait.
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looks blue-ish...i think u overdid the colours.
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Photo doesn't look sharp. A little underexposed and a lil too saturated.
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Thanks for the comments. Edit again and C&C again is welcomed to improve my photo

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Thanks for the comments. Edit again and C&C again is welcomed to improve my photo

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Lacks contrast and still underexposed.

Here's how I would like the photo to look like.

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QUOTE(calvin_gsc @ Jun 3 2009, 02:34 PM)
Lacks contrast and still underexposed.

Here's how I would like the photo to look like.

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From my desktop monitor, photo u edit looks blown out. But my laptop monitor looks OK.
No wonder the photo I edit looks underexposed
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QUOTE(kimurastanley @ Jun 3 2009, 02:40 PM)
From my desktop monitor, photo u edit looks blown out. But my laptop monitor looks OK.
No wonder the photo I edit looks underexposed
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Well, my desktop monitor is calibrated with Colorvision Spyder 2 Pro.

Exposure may vary with monitors, calibrated vs non calibrated. But your photo certainly lacks contrast.

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780... ermm... still..  that too much for me.. huhu.. mu budget is lower than  that.. hahaha.. maybe i shud buy 50mm f1.8 only lo.. cost about 370 rite?
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What is wrong again with using the standard kit lens for portrait? hmm.gif
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most probably he wants a better bokeh...
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QUOTE(AlphaBeta @ Jun 3 2009, 03:52 PM)
most probably he wants a better bokeh...
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Ah .... I see. Bokeh cost minimum of 370 ringgit. Hopefully that's enough to satisfy. I'm afraid if he see the 1.4D ter-kang-kang bokeh, then he will regret buying 1.8. biggrin.gif
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lol..50mm f1.4 still ok...if 85 f1.4...then its bad..or 200 f2 even worse...lol
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hahaha.. that the problem when using dslr.. we alwayz poison to buy something better to produce better pic.. but still in learning process thou... blush.gif
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yo guys...
damn...i got a good offer to upgrade to d80...do you think it's worth upgrading? or i should stick with my d40 for now and upgrade to something later on if i need it?

btw... assuming if i need to top up RM400 to upgrade from d40 to d80 as reference guide...is it worth?

i'm very new in DSLR...i don't even really master my d40 yet in my opinion...but just that my fren decided to sell his d80 and offer me a good price...makes me think twice...otherwise i would have stick with my d40....

any 2 cents very much appreciated...sankyu!
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I would say.. if you can afford it... go ahead. D80 is a much better body than D40.
QUOTE(kevyeoh @ Jun 3 2009, 08:07 PM)
yo guys...
damn...i got a good offer to upgrade to d80...do you think it's worth upgrading? or i should stick with my d40 for now and upgrade to something later on if i need it?

btw... assuming if i need to top up RM400 to upgrade from d40 to d80 as reference guide...is it worth?

i'm very new in DSLR...i don't even really master my d40 yet in my opinion...but just that my fren decided to sell his d80 and offer me a good price...makes me think twice...otherwise i would have stick with my d40....

any 2 cents very much appreciated...sankyu!
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But D40 noise control much more better than D80.
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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ Jun 3 2009, 08:07 PM)
yo guys...
damn...i got a good offer to upgrade to d80...do you think it's worth upgrading? or i should stick with my d40 for now and upgrade to something later on if i need it?

btw... assuming if i need to top up RM400 to upgrade from d40 to d80 as reference guide...is it worth?

i'm very new in DSLR...i don't even really master my d40 yet in my opinion...but just that my fren decided to sell his d80 and offer me a good price...makes me think twice...otherwise i would have stick with my d40....

any 2 cents very much appreciated...sankyu!
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Get the D80 if you can afford it! I used to have the camera. The colors produced off camera is just amazing.

QUOTE(loon1031 @ Jun 3 2009, 09:03 PM)
But D40 noise control much more better than D80.
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Well, it's not a big issue. Wont matter for the naked eye and also there is always noise reduction softwares.
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i think D80 is better camera than D40. Get one if it's a really good offer
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QUOTE(narutet @ Jun 3 2009, 04:00 AM)
hi guys, just bought my D60 3 weeks ago. eventhough i bought 2nd hand unit,the camera works like charm and i couldnt stop play with it hehe... already bought raynox super macro adapter, couldnt wait to shoot macro huhuh... feel free to view my newbie gallery here http://www.flickr.com/photos/haziqphotography/ . hope can share knowledge from u guys!
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QUOTE(calvin_gsc @ Jun 3 2009, 10:31 PM)
Get the D80 if you can afford it! I used to have the camera. The colors produced off camera is just amazing.
Well, it's not a big issue. Wont matter for the naked eye and also there is always noise reduction softwares.
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If you forsee use noise reduction softwares, then why using DSLR? blink.gif
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Added on June 3, 2009, 10:56 pmd60 still clean at iso400
more than that got some noise in dark area but can be clean using the power of software (I use NoiseWare).

i dun like d80 and above coz heavier biggrin.gif
d60 is ngam ngam.
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QUOTE(loon1031 @ Jun 3 2009, 10:51 PM)
If you forsee use noise reduction softwares, then why using DSLR?  blink.gif
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Well, DSLR is not all about noise. Picking a model includes all other features too. doh.gif

Was just a suggestion for the person who's so worried about noise. doh.gif icon_idea.gif

I use a D300 biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(calvin_gsc @ Jun 3 2009, 10:59 PM)
Was just a suggestion for the person who's so worried about noise.  doh.gif  icon_idea.gif 

I use a D300  biggrin.gif
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d60 noise still can fix with software biggrin.gif . but some PNS noise really cannot help sweat.gif


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d60 noise still can fix with software  biggrin.gif . but some PNS noise really cannot help  sweat.gif
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in dilemma of getting 50mm f1.4 or 35mm f1.8.
i have not tried both but tried 50mm f1.8 quite a few times.
i mostly shoot potraits. and from my pasy experience i think 35mm would be more versatile for me as in certain time ''taking 2 step back'' just wont do with 50mm.
so here i stand humbly asking to be poisoned by more 35mm f1.8 shots.

will get by weekend.
so far ys quoted me at 800 for it and they have stock.
i need to get either one of these lense and an sb600.
and again here i humbly stand asking for advice on where to shop and a a price guide probably. i knw tht sb600 will cost exactly like 35mm but just hoping to a get a better deal if i take both item


Added on June 4, 2009, 12:54 amoh ya guys may i humbly invite all the borther's and sister's here for some charity work..

Blood Donation Campaign
''Help Us Save Life''

Date: Sunday, June 7, 2009
Time: 10:00am - 5:00pm
Location: Tropicana City Mall
Jalan SS20/27, 47400
Phone: 60126310082
We are organising a Blood Donation Campaign as part of community service project. We are targetting for 100 packs of blood and SS seek your participation in achieving this. Do invite friends and families to participate in this good cause.



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QUOTE(mixologist84 @ Jun 4 2009, 12:45 AM)
in dilemma of getting 50mm f1.4 or 35mm f1.8.
i have not tried both but tried 50mm f1.8 quite a few times.
i mostly shoot potraits. and from my pasy experience i think 35mm would be more versatile for me as in certain time ''taking 2 step back'' just wont do with 50mm.
so here i stand humbly asking to be poisoned by more 35mm f1.8 shots.

will get by weekend.
so far ys quoted me at 800 for it and they have stock.
i need to get either one of these lense and an sb600.
and again here i humbly stand asking for advice on where to shop and a a price guide probably. i knw tht sb600 will cost exactly like 35mm but just hoping to a get a better deal if i take both item


Added on June 4, 2009, 12:54 amoh ya guys may i humbly invite all the borther's and sister's here for some charity work..

Blood Donation Campaign
''Help Us Save Life''

Date: Sunday, June 7, 2009
Time: 10:00am - 5:00pm
Location: Tropicana City Mall 
              Jalan SS20/27, 47400
Phone:  60126310082
We are organising a Blood Donation Campaign as part of  community service project. We are targetting for 100 packs of blood and SS seek your participation in achieving this. Do invite friends and families to participate in this good cause.
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dude...love your pics...
do you know that after looking at your pics, i am quite convinced that there's no need for me to upgrade my d40 at the moment... period...
only because my close friend wanna sell his d80 at very good price so i have second thoughts...hehe...

keep up the good work...i hope with my d40, i can capture good shot...as good as urs... wink.gif


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Added on June 3, 2009, 10:56 pmd60 still clean at iso400
more than that got some noise in dark area but can be clean using the power of software (I use NoiseWare).

i dun like d80 and above coz heavier  biggrin.gif
d60 is ngam ngam.
can shoot whole day without getting tired  thumbup.gif
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Added on June 4, 2009, 7:48 pmif you're using d40 w/out motor, i think it's a no brainer for me... straight go for 35mm la...hehe...there's a thread over here at PM...i think u look at some of the pages...got some test shots...

http://www.photomalaysia.com/forums/showth...&highlight=35mm


QUOTE(mixologist84 @ Jun 4 2009, 12:45 AM)
in dilemma of getting 50mm f1.4 or 35mm f1.8.
i have not tried both but tried 50mm f1.8 quite a few times.
i mostly shoot potraits. and from my pasy experience i think 35mm would be more versatile for me as in certain time ''taking 2 step back'' just wont do with 50mm.
so here i stand humbly asking to be poisoned by more 35mm f1.8 shots.

will get by weekend.
so far ys quoted me at 800 for it and they have stock.
i need to get either one of these lense and an sb600.
and again here i humbly stand asking for advice on where to shop and a a price guide probably. i knw tht sb600 will cost exactly like 35mm but just hoping to a get a better deal if i take both item


Added on June 4, 2009, 12:54 amoh ya guys may i humbly invite all the borther's and sister's here for some charity work..

Blood Donation Campaign
''Help Us Save Life''

Date: Sunday, June 7, 2009
Time: 10:00am - 5:00pm
Location: Tropicana City Mall 
              Jalan SS20/27, 47400
Phone:  60126310082
We are organising a Blood Donation Campaign as part of  community service project. We are targetting for 100 packs of blood and SS seek your participation in achieving this. Do invite friends and families to participate in this good cause.
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nikon 35mm 1.8 is a good choice and I'm looking at it also. Problem is price offered here is RM899.....siao.

Mixologist, mind to share where do u get the quote and stock of 35mm? thanks
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Nice shot... like this water drop. Where did you shoot it ?
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PP to boost up contrast to make it more interesting and also 16:9 cropping. smile.gif

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errr...this one doesn't look that nice liao...too much photochop... subject become overexposed?

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QUOTE(windwong @ Jun 4 2009, 07:53 PM)
nikon 35mm 1.8 is a good choice and I'm looking at it also. Problem is price offered here is RM899.....siao.

Mixologist, mind to share where do u get the quote and stock of 35mm? thanks
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j one is 790.


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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ Jun 4 2009, 07:46 PM)
dude...love your pics...
f you're using d40 w/out motor, i think it's a no brainer for me... straight go for 35mm la...hehe...there's a thread over here at PM...i think u look at some of the pages...got some test shots...

http://www.photomalaysia.com/forums/showth...&highlight=35mm
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bro 50mm f1.4 is with built in motor like 35mm f1.8.
am nt comparin 50mm1.8
anyways thanks for the link

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ahh..my bad...missed out the f1.4.... then it's double the price wor....hehe... me no budget lor..that's only focus my budget to buy 35mm now...kekeke...

QUOTE(mixologist84 @ Jun 4 2009, 11:35 PM)
from ys bro.
j one is 790.


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bro 50mm f1.4 is with built in motor like 35mm f1.8.
am nt comparin 50mm1.8
anyways thanks for the link
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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ Jun 5 2009, 09:49 AM)
ahh..my bad...missed out the f1.4.... then it's double the price wor....hehe... me no budget lor..that's only focus my budget to buy 35mm now...kekeke...
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same situation here. ahaha..
i was just worried the bokehness is not as good as 50mm f1.4
but after seeing the pics, i find it livin up to the nikkor expectation, and it fulfils my expectation too.
so without further a due, im snaking out in a while for survey, ( still wanna test shot and see the difference between both) then i will get the one that i like, ( and also the 400 price diff will be kept in mind) haha

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QUOTE(kimurastanley @ Jun 5 2009, 11:17 AM)
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QUOTE(mixologist84 @ Jun 5 2009, 11:53 AM)
bro, mind sharing the setting? 35mm i presume
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Continue from yesterday. smile.gif

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I think 1st one is better, this one looks too furious tongue.gif tongue.gif
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I think 1st one is better, this one looks too furious tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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This shot lack some ohmmp! (splash) tongue.gif

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I'm thinking of getting D60 kit, may i know how much is the price now?
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Hi guys,

I'm thinking of getting D60 kit, may i know how much is the price now?
Or should i ask in garage sales side?

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errr...this one doesn't look that nice liao...too much photochop... subject become overexposed?
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reply mixologist


sorry brother, Im from Kuching, where is ys and where is J one, got stock or not? Kuching is selling RM899....siao~ Do u have their contact no? thanks....

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QUOTE(windwong @ Jun 5 2009, 11:25 PM)
reply mixologist
sorry brother, Im from Kuching, where is ys and where is J one, got stock or not? Kuching is selling RM899....siao~ Do u have their contact no? thanks....
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bro my suggestion is to ge from uyer in lelong.
i got it from him too, bt i went straight to his shop.
its safer.
i'll give u his trader name shortly.
i u want.........the numb fr ys and jone im nt sure la bro.
btw found j one ownr was very rude to me.
so i did not buy from him.
i paid 800 instead of 790.bcoz i boght in another place
dont mind paying extra to ppl if they know how to treat u.
got myself sb600 and 35mm f1.8.
if just buy both j one cheaper
but plus together with the acc definitely the other place cheaper, save about 60bucks.
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Is it a good start for me to buy Nikon D60 as my first SLR? unsure.gif

my friend have one, and he really makes me drooling everyday tongue.gif

just wanna know it's worth the price because i'm using 70% of my own money to buy it biggrin.gif(30% from my parents ) haha lol tongue.gif

is it? :S or i should wait for newer nikon unsure.gif
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QUOTE(Balok @ Jun 6 2009, 05:55 PM)
Is it a good start for me to buy Nikon D60 as my first SLR? unsure.gif

my friend have one, and he really makes me drooling everyday tongue.gif

just wanna know it's worth the price because i'm using 70% of my own money to buy it biggrin.gif(30% from my parents ) haha lol tongue.gif

is it? :S or i should wait for newer nikon unsure.gif
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Do u familiar with DSLR?? If no, then D60 is a good camera for beginner. The layout is easy to understand and u can make urself familiar with DSLR function.
If u want more than beginner stuffs, then u can get a D5000 or D90. It's more professional than D60.
My advice is if u wanna upgrade to a more serious camera, u can get a used unit and learn all the things u can learn from a beginner DSLR. When u are ready to upgrade, then u can sell of ur DSLR and get urself a new mid-range DSLR like D90
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should be the last place i write this...since only d40 users will come in...hehe..but what the heck...

anyone wanna buy a very new d40 body + 18-135mm lens?

me just bought my friend's d80...2 weeks after i got my d40 !!!! dmn... poison too strong...hehe.... so i wanna let go my d40 + the d80 kitlens...


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may i kindly shed some poison??
im so loving the 35mm, and sb600 is just what i needed.
next time i'll post diff usin built in flash and usin sb6

For now pls feast your eyes with these

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QUOTE(mixologist84 @ Jun 7 2009, 12:53 AM)
may i kindly shed some poison??
im so loving the  35mm, and sb600 is just what i needed.
next time i'll post diff usin built in flash and usin sb6

For now pls feast your eyes with these
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I heard wonders about the lens. But unfortunately your photos just don't justify them. Find some inspiration and shoot some better looking photos.
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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ Jun 6 2009, 10:58 PM)
should be the last place i write this...since only d40 users will come in...hehe..but what the heck...

anyone wanna buy a very new d40 body + 18-135mm lens?

me just bought my friend's d80...2 weeks after i got my d40 !!!! dmn... poison too strong...hehe.... so i wanna let go my d40 + the d80 kitlens...
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so next time u'll in D80 thread lo. smile.gif
Good luck for ur sale
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first attempt with HDR  biggrin.gif
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Good try. But it doesn't show any characteristics of an HDR photo. The composition of this photo is not good. It is badly cropped and there is no eye catcher in the photo.
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Good composition. But it's apparent it's not sharp enough. Did you unsharp mask with photoshop? If not, you should, to bring out some details with the dragonfly.
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Share  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif

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aiyah bro... after u poisoned me with so many great chicks... i mean photos... u brought my expectation down to earth again...
what's the fuss about HDR anyway?
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btw...this pic not so nice ler....
just my 2 cents...

QUOTE(shutterdll @ Jun 7 2009, 12:19 PM)
first attempt with HDR  biggrin.gif
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Added on June 7, 2009, 9:50 pmthis is where i start my DSLR journey...i intend to stay here in this thread...can or not kimura-san? tongue.gif

QUOTE(kimurastanley @ Jun 7 2009, 02:03 AM)
so next time u'll in D80 thread lo. smile.gif
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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ Jun 7 2009, 09:42 PM)
this is where i start my DSLR journey...i intend to stay here in this thread...can or not kimura-san? tongue.gif
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So this thread is like ur 娘家 (mother's house??)??
After get ur D80, continue poison us with the pictures captured by D80 tongue.gif
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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ Jun 7 2009, 09:42 PM)
aiyah bro... after u poisoned me with so many great chicks... i mean photos... u brought my expectation down to earth again...
what's the fuss about HDR anyway?
tongue.gif

btw...this pic not so nice ler....
just my 2 cents...

Added on June 7, 2009, 9:50 pmthis is where i start my DSLR journey...i intend to stay here in this thread...can or not kimura-san? tongue.gif
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tongue.gif just trying to see how good d60's single raw can be used for HDR.
Use HDR to increase the details of the photos.
Tried another settings:

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Added on June 7, 2009, 10:54 pmAnother HDR attempt biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(calvin_gsc @ Jun 7 2009, 12:56 AM)
I heard wonders about the lens. But unfortunately your photos just don't justify them. Find some inspiration and shoot some better looking photos.
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like i mention in my post, im just sharing the pics to show the bokeh that it is capable of.
will shoot some and post..just got it, so lookin for the right time and moment for the shot
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QUOTE(mixologist84 @ Jun 7 2009, 11:02 PM)
like i mention in my post, im just sharing the pics to show the bokeh that it is capable of.
will shoot some and post..just got it, so lookin for the right time and moment for the shot
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QUOTE(shutterdll @ Jun 7 2009, 10:35 PM)
tongue.gif just trying to see how good d60's single raw can be used for HDR.
Use HDR to increase the details of the photos.
Tried another settings:

Added on June 7, 2009, 10:54 pmAnother HDR attempt  biggrin.gif

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The second set has HDR feel biggrin.gif
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Added on June 7, 2009, 10:54 pmAnother HDR attempt  biggrin.gif

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This one definitely has a better HDR effect.
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QUOTE(shutterdll @ Jun 7 2009, 04:07 PM)
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shutterdll,

i like the 2nd pic a lot better....
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ok la... here's my 1st photo posting... taken using d40...

very happy with the quality/result... smile.gif




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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ Jun 8 2009, 02:42 PM)
ok la... here's my 1st photo posting... taken using d40...

very happy with the quality/result...  smile.gif
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bounce flash using SB-600?
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yup...any inputs?


Added on June 8, 2009, 5:02 pmmaybe i need to work on my composition after this.... reached my first objective, which is to capture clear shots of my baby girl... but it looks 'normal'.... next step is to make it interesting eh...hehehe....

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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ Jun 8 2009, 02:42 PM)
ok la... here's my 1st photo posting... taken using d40...

very happy with the quality/result...  smile.gif
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The guy behind quite distracting. And the composition not that good in my opinion. 35mm f/1.8?
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bro... very noobie in photography and DSLR...only touch for 2weeks plus...hehe...

using d40 + 18-105mm lens only...with flash... not 35mm...that one coming soon...hehe...


QUOTE(aaron1kee @ Jun 8 2009, 05:48 PM)
The guy behind quite distracting. And the composition not that good in my opinion. 35mm f/1.8?
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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ Jun 8 2009, 07:04 PM)
bro... very noobie in photography and DSLR...only touch for 2weeks plus...hehe...

using d40 + 18-105mm lens only...with flash... not 35mm...that one coming soon...hehe...
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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ Jun 6 2009, 11:58 PM)
should be the last place i write this...since only d40 users will come in...hehe..but what the heck...

anyone wanna buy a very new d40 body + 18-135mm lens?

me just bought my friend's d80...2 weeks after i got my d40 !!!! dmn... poison too strong...hehe.... so i wanna let go my d40 + the d80 kitlens...
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pm me how much u selling the D40 + the18-135mm lens...

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ok la... here's my 1st photo posting... taken using d40...

very happy with the quality/result...  smile.gif
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bro... very noobie in photography and DSLR...only touch for 2weeks plus...hehe...

using d40 + 18-105mm lens only...with flash... not 35mm...that one coming soon...hehe...
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35mm is very good for potrait. Use it to capture your baby girl! smile.gif
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Today run several tests with my Tamron 17-50mm f/2.8. Many ppl said this lens is very soft at the widest aperture. I decided to do a test myself to judge this statement.
Setup:
1.My setup is Nikon D60 with Tamron 17-50mm f/2.8 with built in motor.
2.The camera is mounted on a tripod and the lens is set to manual focus to avoid any AF bias.
3.I trigger the shutter by using remote control to avoid any vibration which can cause softness.
4.In between each release, I wait for 5 seconds to wait the vibration of the camera body to settle off after I turn the dial to change the aperture.
5.I shoot 2 different objects to increase the accuracy of my test.
6.All images are shot in JPEG fine format Large size @50mm focal length

Hope can assist those who are interested in this lens flex.gif

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Test #1
100% crop

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user posted image f/3.5
user posted image f/4
user posted image f/4.5
user posted image f/5
user posted image f/5.6
user posted image f/6.3
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Test #2
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user posted image f/5.6
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user posted image f/8


My conclusion: This lens if little bit soft at widest however cant be differentiated clearly by normal viewing. And I think at f/2.8, it's still very satisfying me. After stopping down, the image becomes sharper which sharpest at f/5.6. Although I think can't really differentiate between f/4.5 to f/5.6.

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Like the 2nd picture HDR!
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ahh...the latest two pics looks more like HDR....better effort...
btw...HDR pics looks fake to me ler...cannot tahan... tongue.gif

hehe....
not natural...more like a rendered pic from computer...

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For those who has PDA with infrared port, there's a way to use it as remote control to trigger shutter release as Nikon ML-L3. Those interested can PM me for details.
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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ Jun 9 2009, 11:26 AM)
ahh...the latest two pics looks more like HDR....better effort...
btw...HDR pics looks fake to me ler...cannot tahan... tongue.gif

hehe....
not natural...more like a rendered pic from computer...
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Shutterdll, i like your HDR pics very much. I am a HDR fan too =P
Can share how did you do the HDR? Using photomatix pro?
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Shutterdll, i like your HDR pics very much. I am a HDR fan too =P
Can share how did you do the HDR? Using photomatix pro?
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Single RAW file and I use Automate - Single File Conversion biggrin.gif


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yup using photomatix pro.
Single RAW file and I use Automate - Single File Conversion  biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(shutterdll @ Jun 10 2009, 01:02 AM)
yup using photomatix pro.
Single RAW file and I use Automate - Single File Conversion  biggrin.gif


Added on June 10, 2009, 1:06 amHDR grandma  biggrin.gif

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if use RAW single image, need to convert it to JPEGs with different exposures only process in photomatix, or just use the original raw file? I dun have suitable RAW pics to test now...
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jz came back from my HK vacation icon_rolleyes.gif

will post my pics asap
not tonite, too tired...
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Home made "Dry box" laugh.gif

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Are you selling this out bro?
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QUOTE(aaron1kee @ Jun 10 2009, 11:56 PM)
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Are you selling this out bro?
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Currently not bro, as I don't have much time for that. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Jun 10 2009, 11:21 PM)
jz came back from my HK vacation  icon_rolleyes.gif

will post my pics asap
not tonite, too tired...
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get full use of ur SB-900? tongue.gif

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QUOTE(shinjun @ Jun 10 2009, 11:41 PM)
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u dun buy a meter to analyze the humidity jst to prevent it too dry?

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QUOTE(kimurastanley @ Jun 11 2009, 12:03 AM)
u dun buy a meter to analyze the humidity jst to prevent it too dry?
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Nah, that's juz for display currently(other usage). I only throw in few pack of small silica gel into my camera bag. smile.gif
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Joe McNally so funny?? shocking.gif

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QUOTE(shinjun @ Jun 11 2009, 12:05 AM)
Nah, that's juz for display currently(other usage). I only throw in few pack of small silica gel into my camera bag. smile.gif
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Is there any shop selling in small amount? I dont need one whole box... that's too many for me. I need like 10 packets....

or should i just buy the electronic moisture absorber from Shashinki.com?
link: http://shashinki.com/shop/wonderful-electr...20g-p-2853.html

I cant afford a dry box man...
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QUOTE(zellleonhart @ Jun 11 2009, 01:14 AM)
Is there any shop selling in small amount? I dont need one whole box... that's too many for me. I need like 10 packets....

or should i just buy the electronic moisture absorber from Shashinki.com?
link: http://shashinki.com/shop/wonderful-electr...20g-p-2853.html

I cant afford a dry box man...
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I guess the moisture absorber from Shashinki is more reliable
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QUOTE(shutterdll @ Jun 7 2009, 10:35 PM)
tongue.gif just trying to see how good d60's single raw can be used for HDR.
Use HDR to increase the details of the photos.
Tried another settings:

Added on June 7, 2009, 10:54 pmAnother HDR attempt  biggrin.gif

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@shutterdll - the paddy field hdr pic is done using photomatix right? i have photomatix...how do u do the hdr pics and what settings? step by step plz biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(zellleonhart @ Jun 11 2009, 01:14 AM)
Is there any shop selling in small amount? I dont need one whole box... that's too many for me. I need like 10 packets....

or should i just buy the electronic moisture absorber from Shashinki.com?
link: http://shashinki.com/shop/wonderful-electr...20g-p-2853.html

I cant afford a dry box man...
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i thought of buying this one too... usable many times right?

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This photo was taken in WuZhen 乌镇 China. I was surprised by the old fashion alcohol container which previously I only saw on television.

This is an ancient alcohol making factory and the markings on containers really can tell the ages...

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@shutterdll - the paddy field hdr pic is done using photomatix right? i have photomatix...how do u do the hdr pics and what settings? step by step plz biggrin.gif


Added on June 11, 2009, 8:16 am

i thought of buying this one too... usable many times right?
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Shutterdll if you can share your settings I also wan~

@alpha_company, I think it's reusable for many times, since the description there states that it can be "recharged" by plugging in to the AC adapter, so Rm46 is actually worth it as an alternative to a dry box. I haven't tried it, I might order one...
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Just got myself a D5000 kit + 4GB SD + bag + Tripod + UV filter + screen protector at RM2890.
Don't have to play around with it yet 'cause busy now...
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i've incorporated D5000 in this thread since they share same specs as non-built-in motor model and D5000 is considered as the "upper entry level DSLR" for Nikon. D5000 users please report in!!
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Wow... integrated liao... me still classified as "future owner" as I'm still saving up... torn between the D5000 and the D90. My budget leans more towards the D5000, and I love it's rotating screen cos I like taking odd angles... only sad part is the lack of battery grip and pentaprism, which I wonder how much diff wud it make. I did stumble upon a shop which claims to have 3rd party batt pack for the D5000 tho...
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QUOTE(raptorclans @ Jun 11 2009, 08:49 PM)
Wow... integrated liao... me still classified as "future owner" as I'm still saving up... torn between the D5000 and the D90. My budget leans more towards the D5000, and I love it's rotating screen cos I like taking odd angles... only sad part is the lack of battery grip and pentaprism, which I wonder how much diff wud it make. I did stumble upon a shop which claims to have 3rd party batt pack for the D5000 tho...
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i guess there will be battery grip in the future
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QUOTE(kimurastanley @ Jun 11 2009, 08:53 PM)
i guess there will be battery grip in the future
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if Nikon really comes out an official battery grip for D5000, i sure sapu!! drool.gif

btw, taking a long time to upload my pics from HK
so still cant post it tonite...
n yah, enjoyed using my SB900! rclxm9.gif
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Thumbs up  rclxms.gif
if use RAW single image, need to convert it to JPEGs with different exposures only process in photomatix, or just use the original raw file? I dun have suitable RAW pics to test now...
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I use single raw file.


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Shutterdll if you can share your settings I also wan~

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Here is my process biggrin.gif

1. In photomatix:
- Automate -> Select Single File Conversion

2. Check Convert Raw File or 16 bit linear TIFF into [select Radiance RGBE]

3. Select your raw file. Click Run. And then Close. This will produce HDR image

4. File - Open. Locate the HDR image

5. Click HDR - Tonemapping

6. Here is my setting:
- Strength 100%
- Color saturation to ur liking.
- light smoothing - medium

- Tone and Color tab to ur liking

- Micro->
- I set Microcontrast 10 and Micro-smoothing 0

- S/H to ur liking also. See how much shadow you want to expose.


Added on June 11, 2009, 10:44 pmfor me, i get good effect by:

setting Microcontrast high and Micro-smoothing low
and strength high.

sometimes might get noise. but can remove in PS with noiseware plugin biggrin.gif


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err..i got 1 question..
asking behalf on my fren..
she owns D80..
lately..she found that there are few dots of dust inside her lens..18-135mm
she wanted to bring to nikon service center to clean it..
how much is it??
and how long does she need to wait???
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QUOTE(suizai @ Jun 12 2009, 12:47 AM)
err..i got 1 question..
asking behalf on my fren..
she owns D80..
lately..she found that there are few dots of dust inside her lens..18-135mm
she wanted to bring to nikon service center to clean it..
how much is it??
and how long does she need to wait???
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i not sure of that but i think should need to spend few hundreds bucks.
if the dust in the lens doesnt affect the image quality, can leave it there
just my opinion
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thanks shutterdll ... btw, for outdoor shots u use how much saturation?
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QUOTE(kimurastanley @ Jun 12 2009, 01:03 AM)
i not sure of that but i think should need to spend few hundreds bucks.
if the dust in the lens doesnt affect the image quality, can leave it there
just my opinion
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if under warranty, it is free ler...
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Speaking about Nikon Service Centre,
is coincidence or luck or wat?

My D5000 is AP model from HK,
i went HK for vacation,
then my D5000 rosak there,
then HK's Nikon Service Centre is nearby my hotel,
n my D5000 is registered in their database,
so i got it fixed in 2 days for free
LOL
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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Jun 12 2009, 01:21 AM)
Speaking about Nikon Service Centre,
is coincidence or luck or wat?

My D5000 is AP model from HK,
i went HK for vacation,
then my D5000 rosak there,
then HK's Nikon Service Centre is nearby my hotel,
n my D5000 is registered in their database,
so i got it fixed in 2 days for free
LOL
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then u r so lucky, bro,,
What's problem with ur d5000, so new got problem??
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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Jun 12 2009, 01:21 AM)
Speaking about Nikon Service Centre,
is coincidence or luck or wat?

My D5000 is AP model from HK,
i went HK for vacation,
then my D5000 rosak there,
then HK's Nikon Service Centre is nearby my hotel,
n my D5000 is registered in their database,
so i got it fixed in 2 days for free
LOL
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so new got what prob?
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i was jz taking pics, switched it off
then few minutes later wanna take pics again
tried to switch on but no reaction, totally dead

problem didn really found out,
cos i explain to the staff im from MY,
staying for 9 days only, n i nid it fixed quickly to take pics
so in the end the problem cant b rectified in the 2 days,
so they changed the whole internal circuit boards & etc
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wow... wish we could know the prob... sounds scary...
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thanks shutterdll ... btw, for outdoor shots u use how much saturation?
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around 70-100 % smile.gif
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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Jun 12 2009, 01:28 AM)
i was jz taking pics, switched it off
then few minutes later wanna take pics again
tried to switch on but no reaction, totally dead

problem didn really found out,
cos i explain to the staff im from MY,
staying for 9 days only, n i nid it fixed quickly to take pics
so in the end the problem cant b rectified in the 2 days,
so they changed the whole internal circuit boards & etc
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wow, u are real lucky. If in Malaysia, need to pay much to repair that
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QUOTE(kimurastanley @ Jun 12 2009, 01:03 AM)
i not sure of that but i think should need to spend few hundreds bucks.
if the dust in the lens doesnt affect the image quality, can leave it there
just my opinion
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when she take pic of the skies...got 1 or 2 dots there..she cant stand with it...
so..... :S
few hundred bucks are not cheap...btw

QUOTE(razuryza @ Jun 12 2009, 01:13 AM)
if under warranty, it is free ler...
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warranty over jor..
2 years + liao.. >.<
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wah...the 18-135mm lens now cost about RM700 market price...if service also a few hundred ringgits... then worth considering buying a brand new lens lor....

btw... D5000 baru masuk included in this thread? how come we cannot merge D80 as well... ptttbbbbttthhh tongue.gif !!!!
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18-135mm so cheap oni????
for me..1 dot or 2 dots doesn't affect the pic wel..
it doesn't worth me few hundred ringgit..

how come.....service..
need such exp?
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Sell the 18-135mm off to a noob la, buy 18-105VR. Awesomeness in a box....actually, is it really dust aa? Or could be dead pixels?
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QUOTE(pleasuresaurus @ Jun 12 2009, 05:20 PM)
Sell the 18-135mm off to a noob la, buy 18-105VR. Awesomeness in a box....actually, is it really dust aa? Or could be dead pixels?
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or can it be dust on the sensor?
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she tried sensor cleaning liao...still the same..
i teached her how to check dead pixel...but she nvr tell me..
nvm..i will check wit her again ltr...
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you wont be able to see the dust in the photo if the dust is in the lens loh...
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QUOTE(suizai @ Jun 12 2009, 05:57 PM)
she tried sensor cleaning liao...still the same..
i teached her how to check dead pixel...but she nvr tell me..
nvm..i will check wit her again ltr...
biggrin.gif
thx...
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it can be sticky dust which can't be blowed by blower. My camera also got 4-5 dusts sticking to the sensor. not obvious on normal shooting until aperture stopped down to f 20. Just leave it there..
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for her case..normal shooting no prob..
but when she shoot sky..then it is visible..
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mayb i ask a pic from her..thn i post up here??? biggrin.gif

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