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TSorenzai
post Aug 22 2008, 12:11 PM, updated 17y ago

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Let me provide you with some information about the D40. For everybody who is interested in the D40. Let me convince you to buy one!! brows.gif

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A detailed review by D40.:
Introduction
Specifications with Commentary
Performance
Verdict

*For your info, D40x is 99% the same as D40 The only difference is the ISO and Resolution. Click here to view the review of D40x.

Here is a list of lenses that will have Auto Focsuing on the D40/D40X:

Wide angle lenses

Nikkor
� 12-24 mm f/4G ED-IF AF-S DX
� 14-24 mm f/2.8G ED-IF AF-S

Sigma
� 10-20 mm f/4-5.6 EX DC HSM
� 12-24 mm f/4.5-5.6 EX DG HSM


Standard zooms

Nikkor
� 16-85 mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR
� 17-35 mm f/2.8G ED-IF AF-S
� 17-55 mm f/2.8G ED-IF AF-S DX
� 18-55 mm f/3.5-5.6G ED AF-S DX
� 18-55 mm f/3.5-5.6G ED II AF-S DX
� 18-55 mm f/3.5-5.6G VR AF-S DX
� 18-70 mm f/3.5-4.5G ED-IF AF-S DX
� 18-135 mm f/3.5-5.6G ED-IF AF-S DX
� 18-200 mm f/3.5-5.6G ED-IF AF-S DX VR
� 24-70 mm f/2.8G ED AF-S
� 24-120 mm f/3.5-5.6G ED AF-S VR
� 28-70 mm f/2.8D ED-IF AF-S

Sigma
� 17-70 mm f/2.8-4.5 DC Macro HSM
� 18-50 mm f/3.5-5.6 DC HSM
� 18-50 mm f/2.8 EX DC Macro HSM
� 18-125 mm f/3.8-5.6 DC OS HSM
� 18-200 mm f/3.5-6.3 DC
� 18-200 mm f/3.5-6.3 DC OS HSM

Tamron
� 17-50 mm f/2.8 XR Di II (Model A16II)
� 18-200 mm f/3.5-6.3 XR Di II (Model A14)
� 18-250 mm f/3.5-6.3 XR Di II (Model A18)


Telephoto zooms

Nikkor
� 55-200 mm f/4-5.6G ED AF-S DX
� 55-200 mm f/4-5.6G ED-IF AF-S VR
� 70-300 mm f/4-5.6G ED-IF AF-S VR
� 70-200 mm f/2.8G ED-IF AF-S VR
� 200-400 mm f/4G ED-IF AF-S VR

Sigma
� 50-150 mm f/2.8 EX DC APO HSM
� 50-500 mm f/4-6.3 EX DG APO HSM
� 55-200 mm f/4-5.6 DC HSM
� 70-200 mm f/2.8 EX DG APO Macro HSM II
� 70-300 mm f/4-5.6 DG Macro
� 70-300 mm f/4-5.6 APO DG Macro
� 80-400 mm f/4.5-5.6 EX DG OS APO
� 100-300 mm f/4 EX DG HSM
� 120-300 mm f/2.8 EX IF DG HSM APO
� 120-400 mm f/4.5-5.6 DG OS HSM APO
� 150-500 mm f/5-6.3 DG OS HSM APO
� 300-800 mm f/5.6 EX DG HSM

Tamron
� 70-300 mm f/4-5.6 Di (model A17)

Prime lenses

Nikkor
� 200 mm f/2G ED-IF AF-S VR
� 300 mm f/2.8G ED-IF AF-S VR
� 300 mm f/4G ED-IF AF-S
� 400 mm f/2.8G ED-IF VR AF-S
� 400 mm f/2.8G ED-IF AF-S II
� 500 mm f/4G ED-IF VR AF-S
� 500 mm f/4G ED-IF II AF-S
� 600 mm f/4G ED-IF VR AF-S
� 600 mm f/4G ED-IF II AF-S

Sigma
� 4.5 mm f/2.8 EX DC HSM Fisheye
� 10 mm f/2.8 EX DC HSM Diagnonal fisheye
� 30 mm f/1.4 EX DC HSM
� 50 mm f/1.4 EX DG HSM
� 300 mm f/2.8 EX DG APO HSM
� 500 mm f/4.5 EX DG APO HSM
� 800 mm f/5.6 EX DG APO HSM

Macro lenses

Nikkor
� 60 mm f/2.8G ED AF-S
� 105 mm f/2.8G ED-IF AF-S VR

Sigma
� 150mm f/2.8 EX DG APO Macro HSM
� 180mm f/2.8 EX DG APO Macro HSM

i got the above information from:
DpReview
Ken Rockwell
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Max resolution: 3008 x 2000 *-3872 x 2592
Low resolution: 2256 x 1496, 1504 x 1000 *-2896 x 1944, 1936 x 1296
Image ratio w:h: 3:2
Effective pixels: 6.0 million *10 million
Sensor photo detectors: 6.3 million *10.8 million
Sensor size: 23.7 x 15.5 mm (Nikon DX)
Sensor type: CCD
Colour filter array: RGB
Sensor manufacturer: Sony
ISO rating: Auto, 200 - 1600 (plus 3200 with boost) *100-1600 (plus 3200 with boost)
Zoom wide (W): n/a
Zoom tele (T): n/a
Digital zoom: No
Image stabilization: No
Auto Focus: Yes
Manual Focus: Yes
Auto focus type: Nikon Multi-CAM530
Normal focus range: n/a
Macro focus range: n/a
White balance override: 6 positions, plus manual preset
Aperture range: n/a
Min shutter: 30 sec + Bulb
Max shutter: 1/4000 sec
Built-in Flash: Yes, pop-up
Flash guide no.: 17 m (55.7 ft) m
External flash: Yes, hot-shoe
Flash modes: Front curtain, Rear curtain, Red-Eye, Slow, Red-Eye Slow
Exposure compensation: -5 to +5 EV in 1/3 EV steps
Metering: 3D Matrix metering II, Center weighted, Spot
Aperture priority: Yes
Shutter priority: Yes
Focal length multiplier: 1.5
Lens thread: Nikkor AF / F-mount, D-Type
Continuous Drive: Yes, 2.5 fps, unlimited JPEG *3fps, Unlimited Jpeg
Movie Clips: No
Remote control: Optional (ML-L3)
Self-timer: 2 to 20 sec
Timelapse recording: No
Orientation sensor: Yes
Storage types: SD/SDHC card
Storage included: None
Uncompressed format: RAW
Compressed format: JPEG (EXIF 2.2)
Quality Levels: Fine, Normal, Basic
Viewfinder: TTL
LCD: 2.5 "
LCD Pixels: 230,000
Video out: Yes
USB: Yes, 2.0
Firewire (IEEE 1394): No
Battery / Charger Yes
Battery: Nikon EN-EL9 Lithium-Ion & charger included
Weight (inc. batteries): 522 g (18.4 oz)
Dimensions: 124 x 94 x 64 mm (4.9 x 3.7 x 2.5 in)
Notes: Auto focus only with AF-S or AF-I lenses

*Specifications of D40x. The rest not stated means its the same as D40

After some summarizing, some editing, and arranging, its done. I hope this compilation will help all those interested or planning to buy a D40/x.

i got the above information from:
DpReview
Ken Rockwell


*If you have any valuable information that you wish to share with us, you may pm me and i will add on. Thanks smile.gif

D40 User List:
1. orenzai
2. travis_ckf
3. xandman
4. jimmythw
5. foohoa
6. Victor3010
7. tuxxie
8. coolboy_kl
9. Sp@wnie
10. liquid_ooze
11. Darkcursed
12. edministrator
13. shiinkuro31
14. emperor496
15. MR.Shiney
16. ajea
17. nuance
18. mindkiller6610
19. Wifi_One
20. herbie35
21. zaidi
22. atria83
23. pstan82
24. faceythingy
25. boyzgoh
26. piscesguy
27. mafiaboy34
28.zacktan
29. anggana
30. hamydy
31. jootat
32. ' or 1=1 --
33. illegaldragon87
34. lim47
35. zio
36. zencwh
37. dani_irwan
38. shoppingwitch
39. avantgardeo
40. en_mizi
41. ah-chung
42. aaron1kee
43.snipewarex
44. ^K^
45. [url=http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showuser=113932]lonewolfchua[/url

D40x User List:
1. BudakABC
2. adthely
3. jaycz8
4. darthbaboon
5. Hasmadi
6. bransoul

D60 User List:
1. anilezfa
2. DonkeyKong
3. azrulazmie
4. infins
5. eehtsitna
6. midoken23
7. Liojuan
8. JoshuaLee
9. asfax
10. Miux
11. makaveli
12. mizivincible
13. vindiesal
14. hanieyf
15. wenxuan85
16. jefferey
17. peterscm
18. justin_nys
19. weezer
20. harrycath
21. bitterbutter
22. pengiranijam
23. isnu1210
24. NoTailBear
25. ahpeace

ex-D40/D40x User List:
1. [url=http://forum.lowyat.net/user/zzloo]zzloo[/url
2. szyap

PM me to get your name added into the User List.

Members experience:
QUOTE
by harrycath
Greetings!

I hope you can add me to your list of D60 users. Much obliged.

BTW, how can I post a warning to all noobs to stay away from the dealer, Pertama Foto (Address: 1-126, 1st Floor Pertama Complex).

The shop owner (an elderly lady sold me a Hoya 52mm ND Filter when I wanted an NC filter. The filter cost me RM43, and I only realised the mistake when I got home (sigh!).

Went back only to find that she had no NC filters, but was willing to exchange for another item. I took a Nikon 2gb SD Card but she insisted I pay her the full retail price of RM98! (I can get it for RM50 at least).

I had to fork out RM55 to make up the difference.

Best regards,

Harry Lim
Or3nZai

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post Aug 22 2008, 12:18 PM

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orenzai thanx for adding me into the list but u forgot to close the tag. haha! biggrin.gif
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post Aug 22 2008, 03:07 PM

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Why dont have D40x and D60 pics wan tongue.gif
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post Aug 22 2008, 03:21 PM

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zio...because tey all look the same tongue.gif

i edit the tag already smile.gif
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post Aug 22 2008, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(asfax @ Aug 21 2008, 04:19 PM)
ayo yo ..... sorry shiinkuro31, i just read your msg maybe i go survey next time .. FYI i bought 2 phottix batteries online, here confirm super expensive
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last time my dad bought Keep battery rm75 per pieces.. thumbup.gif

QUOTE(orenzai @ Aug 22 2008, 12:02 PM)
set the sb600 to slave mode...
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really?somebody pls clarify.. i thought d40 cannot do CLS. n thats why i bought SC-01 cable cord.. doh.gif cry.gif
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post Aug 22 2008, 04:07 PM

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not verysure...should ask xandman about all those ...he knows best :)CLS stuff
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post Aug 22 2008, 04:14 PM

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D40 boleh guna CLS. Why cannot? smile.gif


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post Aug 22 2008, 04:15 PM

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i thought is all Nikon digital system have CLS?
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post Aug 22 2008, 04:19 PM

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d40 no cls...
u need a commander to do cls...
sc-01 is the off shoe flash cable rite?
well...
even by using that...u still wont be able to do CLS...
wat u can do is off shoe triggering...thats about it...
u shud have gotten the optical slave instead...
then u'll be able to tryout strobist...again no CLS here...
by using optical slave...ur flash will fire if it detects another flash firing...

so the only way for a d40 to have CLS...
is su-800 or sb-800...=)
peace...

also..
u might be interested in wireless off shoe triggering as well..
look into pocket wizards or skyports...
NEVER....EVVVVVVVVVEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRR BUY THE CHINA ONES!
they suck...

peace...
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post Aug 22 2008, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(orenzai @ Aug 22 2008, 04:15 PM)
i thought is all Nikon digital system have CLS?
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Thats correct. Just that the D40 need external help to control other flashes smile.gif

SB-800 will serve as a good commander.
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wow V4 !!! thumbup.gif thumbup.gif


QUOTE(maxh3h3 @ Aug 22 2008, 11:28 AM)
Wah i also kena poison already, been thinking of getting a flash real soon. flash so much more important
night shots sometimes really feel like nightmare for me lor. hate the high iso
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ya.. Flash is poisonous !!


QUOTE(FESEM @ Aug 22 2008, 07:15 AM)
mindkiller>> mind to share how u trigger the sb600 offshoe with D40? smile.gif
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QUOTE(orenzai @ Aug 22 2008, 12:02 PM)
set the sb600 to slave mode...
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hehe.. it is a trick actually, the Sb600 has slave mode, but it cant be trigger by D40 alone,
I need the SU-800 optical trigger or some other optical trigger, or SB-800..

I dun have any of them,

so I put my d40 on tripod, setting a long exposure time, 10seconds,
release the shutter, i go to the flash and press the "test flash" button.. laugh.gif laugh.gif ,
i tried few shots as i need to extremely careful not to move the flash, and i need to be fast so that my hand wont be captured.. laugh.gif laugh.gif






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post Aug 22 2008, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(zio @ Aug 22 2008, 04:14 PM)
D40 boleh guna CLS. Why cannot? smile.gif
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i mean, offshoe. How? whistling.gif brows.gif

QUOTE(orenzai @ Aug 22 2008, 04:15 PM)
i thought is all Nikon digital system have CLS?
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no la.D40/x not equipped with it if im not mistaken..
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post Aug 22 2008, 04:26 PM

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mindkiller...you seen my "what can you do when theres a blackout?" thread? i used the method that you explianed to shoot that shot..go check out the photo gallery biggrin.gif
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post Aug 22 2008, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(zio @ Aug 22 2008, 04:19 PM)
Thats correct. Just that the D40 need external help to control other flashes smile.gif
SB-800 will serve as a good commander.
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i mean off shoe.. sleep.gif

QUOTE(xandman @ Aug 22 2008, 04:19 PM)
d40 no cls...
u need a commander to do cls...
sc-01 is the off shoe flash cable rite?
well...
even by using that...u still wont be able to do CLS...
wat u can do is off shoe triggering...thats about it...
u shud have gotten the optical slave instead...
then u'll be able to tryout strobist...again no CLS here...
by using optical slave...ur flash will fire if it detects another flash firing...
so the only way for a d40 to have CLS...
is su-800 or sb-800...=)
peace...

also..
u might be interested in wireless off shoe triggering as well..
look into pocket wizards or skyports...
NEVER....EVVVVVVVVVEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRR BUY THE CHINA ONES!
they suck...

peace...
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i read from flickr,they use pocket wizards, cactus trigger,etc..i dun know whr to buy n hav no xperience using ebay.. sad.gif

QUOTE(mindkiller6610 @ Aug 22 2008, 04:21 PM)
wow V4 !!!  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
ya.. Flash is poisonous !!
hehe.. it is a trick actually, the Sb600 has slave mode, but it cant be trigger by D40 alone,
I need the SU-800 optical trigger or some other optical trigger, or SB-800..

I dun have any of them,

so I put my d40 on tripod, setting a long exposure time, 10seconds,
release the shutter, i go to the flash and press the "test flash" button..  laugh.gif  laugh.gif ,
i tried few shots as i need to extremely careful not to move the flash, and i need to be fast so that my hand wont be captured.. laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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doh.gif thumbup.gif laugh.gif

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post Aug 22 2008, 04:33 PM

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I define Nikon CLS to be a commander unit controlling multiple offshoe flashes.

In that case, D40 or any Nikon DSLR is CLS capable because you just need to get a commander. The D40 can't function as a commander but if you use the SU-800 or the SB-800, then you can commander other slave flashes.
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i just read it.. ya.. it is the same concept !! the result is so nice.. thumbup.gif
next time i wanna hire someone to hold the flash for me.. makes my team look more professional laugh.gif

Poison !!
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post Aug 22 2008, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(zio @ Aug 22 2008, 04:33 PM)
I define Nikon CLS to be a commander unit controlling multiple offshoe flashes.

In that case, D40 or any Nikon DSLR is CLS capable because you just need to get a commander. The D40 can't function as a commander but if you use the SU-800 or the SB-800, then you can commander other slave flashes.
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using commander i know, i thought using off-shoe.. sleep.gif laugh.gif
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shiinkuro...
if u wanna know how to get them u can pm me...
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but be prepared to spend...and i mean SPEND! brows.gif
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post Aug 22 2008, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(shiinkuro31 @ Aug 22 2008, 04:37 PM)
using commander i know, i thought using off-shoe.. sleep.gif  laugh.gif
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Haha off-shoe tak boleh ler. But the D40 is still CLS compatible. Get the SB-800 la. By the time xand PM you the stuff to get, the SB-800 will be cheaper tongue.gif
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post Aug 22 2008, 04:40 PM

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hahahaha...
no la...
my suggestion is only the skyports...
not the PWs....
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post Aug 22 2008, 04:41 PM

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Sadly, the price for SB600 went up since last month..
Because of Petrol hike ?? mad.gif

All shop in Subang Parade, Sg.Wang, Lowyat, Pudu Plaza is selling around RM750-800 now..
Fotokem staff offer me RM780, or above, their price is different for each branch..

I manage get my unit at Digitals Mania for RM730..

it is a little bit way of my budget.. but I am glad that i got my poison cured.. whistling.gif whistling.gif

This post has been edited by mindkiller6610: Aug 22 2008, 04:42 PM
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post Aug 22 2008, 04:42 PM

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u shud have gotten the sb800...
the price drop...tongue.gif
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post Aug 22 2008, 04:43 PM

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sb800 is an overkill for me and my wallet.. sad.gif sad.gif

maybe next time.. buy it to command my sb600.. haha laugh.gif laugh.gif

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how much for skyports xandman?? i'm gonna need a pair right?
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QUOTE(mindkiller6610 @ Aug 22 2008, 04:41 PM)
Sadly, the price for SB600 went up since last month..
Because of Petrol hike ?? mad.gif

All shop in Subang Parade, Sg.Wang, Lowyat, Pudu Plaza is selling around RM750-800 now..
Fotokem staff offer me RM780, or above, their price is different for each branch..

I manage get my unit at Digitals Mania for RM730..

it is a little bit way of my budget.. but I am glad that i got my poison cured..  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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i bought last 2mnth at pyramd for rm699.. brows.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(' or 1=1 -- @ Aug 22 2008, 04:47 PM)
how much for skyports xandman?? i'm gonna need a pair right?
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skyports are dirt cheap and damn reliable...
they come in a pair...transmitter + receiver...
650 only...=)
300 for extra receivers...wink.gif
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holy sheet? gotta find some money!! so cheap compared to pocket wizards!!!!
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post Aug 22 2008, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(xandman @ Aug 22 2008, 04:51 PM)
skyports are dirt cheap and damn reliable...
they come in a pair...transmitter + receiver...
650 only...=)
300 for extra receivers...wink.gif
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post Aug 22 2008, 04:58 PM

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hahahaha...
it's cheaper than PWs...
and it's reliability can rival PWs...
imagine firing ur flash in the kitchen while u r in ur room on thje first floor...
impressive no? brows.gif
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post Aug 22 2008, 04:59 PM

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now why would u do that? tongue.gif Hrmm i think may need to bump my name off the ex-owner list soon tongue.gif
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post Aug 22 2008, 05:09 PM

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oh?? getting a d40? d40x ? or d60 ?? brows.gif
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post Aug 22 2008, 05:10 PM

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u wouldnt wanna do that...
but juz wanted to show the reliability of the trigger maaa... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(xandman @ Aug 22 2008, 05:10 PM)
u wouldnt wanna do that...
but juz wanted to show the reliability of the trigger maaa... tongue.gif
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do u mind to rent ur 70-200 VR? brows.gif brows.gif
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rent my 70-200?
what do u wanna do wit it?
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QUOTE(xandman @ Aug 22 2008, 05:21 PM)
rent my 70-200?
what do u wanna do wit it?
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wedding shooting + milf.. brows.gif brows.gif
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hell yeaahhh! finally see a V4!
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QUOTE(mindkiller6610 @ Aug 22 2008, 05:09 PM)
oh?? getting a d40? d40x ? or d60 ?? brows.gif
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QUOTE(zio @ Aug 22 2008, 05:42 PM)
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wedding shooting + milf.. brows.gif  brows.gif
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i dun do that kinda stuff....

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woh!!! rich man!!!
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xandman and this other CSI dude. damn rich. tongue.gif
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hei do anyone wan to sell his/her D40? im interested to buy...
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you outdated lar...must get d700 edi!!! tongue.gif
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QUOTE(mindkiller6610 @ Aug 22 2008, 11:48 PM)
come on guys.. sell it.. and get d300 !! lol
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QUOTE(mindkiller6610 @ Aug 22 2008, 11:48 PM)
come on guys.. sell it.. and get d300 !! lol
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Just realised the whole macro setup will still cost me close to RM7k. And R1C1 is out of stock. This is ridiculous!
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QUOTE(zio @ Aug 23 2008, 12:19 AM)
Hrmm am i the only weird one who went from a d40 to a d300 to g9 and back to a d40 tongue.gif

Just realised the whole macro setup will still cost me close to RM7k. And R1C1 is out of stock. This is ridiculous!
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Gosh ... why D300 to D40 ... emmm
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D300 to D40? D40 is very good i think....
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QUOTE(zio @ Aug 23 2008, 12:19 AM)
Hrmm am i the only weird one who went from a d40 to a d300 to g9 and back to a d40 tongue.gif

Just realised the whole macro setup will still cost me close to RM7k. And R1C1 is out of stock. This is ridiculous!
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this looks like a good macro setup.

http://flickr.com/photos/orionmystery/sets...57602194101220/


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QUOTE(mindkiller6610 @ Aug 23 2008, 01:54 AM)
Putrajaya night pano

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Ei.... V4 liao tak perasan! Aiyaaaaaaaa... missed first page post! doh.gif tongue.gif

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QUOTE(mindkiller6610 @ Aug 23 2008, 01:54 AM)
this looks like a good macro setup.

http://flickr.com/photos/orionmystery/sets...57602194101220/


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mindkiller..that is really really a nice shot smile.gif
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hehe i know that guy, went macro shoot with him before. Have been trying to poison him to get R1 tongue.gif
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i guess i might follow his flash setup,
but i will use 50mm 1.8 + raynox adapter to make it life size, or at least close to it.. sweat.gif

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mindkiller..that is really really a nice shot smile.gif
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i guess i might follow his flash setup,
but i will use 50mm 1.8 + raynox adapter to make it life size, or at least close to it..  sweat.gif
thanks.. just wanna utilize my 50mm, wanted to shoot fireworks pictures with it, but too bad the place i stand is too tight for it..
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i heart tat the D40 has no live view..

is it a disadvantage, uncomfortable or is it ok to hav no live view supported camera?

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live view wasnt meant to be in SLR... so i dun think there is a need for live view...it is only useful when shooting hard to reach angles...other than that, nobody uses live view
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Well its a nice feature to have but its not a necessary feature. smile.gif
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its good when you wanna shoot from your lappy biggrin.gif. and u gotta admit tht live view is kinda cool to have even tho you dont use it much. hehe
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the tech for live view in SLR are not advance enough for you to use it often... for eg the focusing speed and stuff...so damn slow with live view.....
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Who wha? Live view? What's that?? tongue.gif
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haha... never heard before ler.... coz its not much of a use tongue.gif
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I think the Sony LiveView is pretty good and the Olympus LiveView also not too bad. The D300 wan however is horrible tongue.gif
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http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f=106&t=774447

i tried olympus and canon's...i think canon one is better than olympus..
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Sony's DSLR live is the best AFAIK.. and fast switching too..
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QUOTE(zio @ Aug 24 2008, 10:05 AM)
I think the Sony LiveView is pretty good and the Olympus LiveView also not too bad. The D300 wan however is horrible tongue.gif
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QUOTE(darthbaboon @ Aug 24 2008, 02:40 PM)
Speaking of D300... I've used my friend's D300 over a couple o days liao and I think the D40X is a little piece of toy now...  tongue.gif
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Thats why i cant resist the poisoning of D300 .... my next move but ned money 4 house renovation & standby to pay CAR TAX !! langkawi car maa ....
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IMHO, live view substracts from the DSLR 'experience' biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(asfax @ Aug 24 2008, 02:57 PM)
Thats why i cant resist the poisoning of D300 .... my next move but ned money 4 house renovation & standby to pay CAR TAX !! langkawi car maa ....
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Some pictures I took yesterday and today while in Saigon.... the rest of the set is in my flickr.

#1 - Saigon Notre-Dame
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#2 - Wedding at the Notre-Dame
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baboon what lens is that? fisheye?
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QUOTE(orenzai @ Aug 24 2008, 05:33 PM)
baboon what lens is that? fisheye?
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Yeah Fisheye 10.5mm f2.8 on a D300 for the first shot, 50mm f1.8 for second. All photos taken using D300. rclxms.gif

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yr d300 is it? drool.gif very nicely exposed smile.gif
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QUOTE(orenzai @ Aug 24 2008, 05:41 PM)
yr d300 is it? drool.gif very nicely exposed smile.gif
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QUOTE(darthbaboon @ Aug 24 2008, 05:31 PM)
Some pictures I took yesterday and today while in Saigon.... the rest of the set is in my flickr.

#1 - Saigon Notre-Dame
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#2 - Wedding at the Notre-Dame
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QUOTE(darthbaboon @ Aug 24 2008, 05:31 PM)
Some pictures I took yesterday and today while in Saigon.... the rest of the set is in my flickr.

#1 - Saigon Notre-Dame
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#2 - Wedding at the Notre-Dame
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#1 Nicely done thumbup.gif

#2 The sky detail gone already smile.gif , IMHO
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You can remove me from ex-owner list to D40 owner list tongue.gif

Some pics with a sorta new toy tongue.gif I need more practice to get back into groove:


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You can remove me from ex-owner list to D40 owner list tongue.gif

Some pics with a sorta new toy tongue.gif I need more practice to get back into groove:
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i like yr shots from the g9 more biggrin.gif
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lol the G9 still with me. Wait la.. still getting used to using a DSLR to shoot macro tongue.gif

And i think i dint even set the flash properly. Need to get acquainted with the camera again smile.gif

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guys....i want to buy d40...can u guys recommend shops to buy from...whats the retail price...???thanx...s
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QUOTE(zio @ Aug 24 2008, 09:57 PM)
lol the G9 still with me. Wait la.. still getting used to using a DSLR to shoot macro tongue.gif

And i think i dint even set the flash properly. Need to get acquainted with the camera again smile.gif
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Hey hey! Welcome back! Nice shots btw... all trying to move upwards but you come down to D40 pulak. I thought you were holding out for the D90?
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darthbaboon, read your blog. You got your Lowpro 350 for only RM 260 ?
Very cheap and mind to share where you get it ? Is it widely available through out Thailand ?
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Aug 24 2008, 10:47 PM)
darthbaboon, read your blog. You got your Lowpro 350 for only RM 260 ?
Very cheap and mind to share where you get it ? Is it widely available through out Thailand ?
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Thanks for popping by mate... and yes I got it from MBK Bangkok in a shop called PhotoThailand... there's a very good selection of Lowepro bags there and they've got many many Fastpack 350s in stock. They had a Computrekker Plus AW for THB 4800 too but I didn't think much of that bag... too big like a turtle shell.

That's the cheapest I've found so far... in Panthip Plaza it's a little more expensive than the MBK... that's what I recommend for now but I haven't really been doing a lot of searching.
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QUOTE(darthbaboon @ Aug 24 2008, 10:33 PM)
Hey hey! Welcome back! Nice shots btw... all trying to move upwards but you come down to D40 pulak. I thought you were holding out for the D90?
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Heh, I dont think I need all the bells and whistles of the D90. When it comes to macro, its pretty much the lens that seal the deal anyway smile.gif
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Speaking of D300... I've used my friend's D300 over a couple o days liao and I think the D40X is a little piece of toy now...  tongue.gif
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really tat toyish? not a good news for me. Then i so shud change to d300 zzz...by selling off my phone n psp!
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Well D40 is small and plastic. D300 is big and magnesium alloy. Of course ler it feels different.
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QUOTE(Joseph Hahn @ Aug 24 2008, 11:18 PM)
Well D40 is small and plastic. D300 is big and magnesium alloy. Of course ler it feels different.
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do they hav small n magnesium alloy?

it feels diff but is the photo quality oso diff?
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QUOTE(darthbaboon @ Aug 24 2008, 10:53 PM)
Thanks for popping by mate... and yes I got it from MBK Bangkok in a shop called PhotoThailand... there's a very good selection of Lowepro bags there and they've got many many Fastpack 350s in stock. They had a Computrekker Plus AW for THB 4800 too but I didn't think much of that bag... too big like a turtle shell.

That's the cheapest I've found so far... in Panthip Plaza it's a little more expensive than the MBK... that's what I recommend for now but I haven't really been doing a lot of searching.
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My friend will be going Krabi soon. Any idea Krabi has that shop as well ? blush.gif
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Aug 24 2008, 11:38 PM)
My friend will be going Krabi soon. Any idea Krabi has that shop as well ? blush.gif
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Uh... where in the world is Krabi? tongue.gif

Sorry la brother... I go there business trip to work not to holiday wan. tongue.gif Ngam ngam ter-come-across good deals then only buy.


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#1 Nicely done thumbup.gif

#2 The sky detail gone already smile.gif , IMHO
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Thanks... the second shot I metered the couple correctly but apparently not the sky (I dunno how to HDR). Anyways I am an "illegal photographer" must fast fast shoot and ciao otherwise kena halau by the official wedding photographer. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(darthbaboon @ Aug 24 2008, 11:42 PM)
Uh... where in the world is Krabi?  tongue.gif

Sorry la brother... I go there business trip to work not to holiday wan.  tongue.gif Ngam ngam ter-come-across good deals then only buy.


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Thanks... the second shot I metered the couple correctly but apparently not the sky (I dunno how to HDR). Anyways I am an "illegal photographer" must fast fast shoot and ciao otherwise kena halau by the official wedding photographer.  tongue.gif
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Krabi is one of the tourism place in Thailand. blush.gif
So your fastpack was bought at Bangkok right ? Will ask my friend whether there is any shop selling camera bag.
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QUOTE(darthbaboon @ Aug 24 2008, 11:42 PM)
Thanks... the second shot I metered the couple correctly but apparently not the sky (I dunno how to HDR). Anyways I am an "illegal photographer" must fast fast shoot and ciao otherwise kena halau by the official wedding photographer.  tongue.gif
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Doesn't matter. The sky is not the main subject there. icon_rolleyes.gif

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hey,i was there at MIFC for the team spain,
too bad that my camera all wet,tell me what to do!
i was thinking to buy a thirst hippo then keep everything inside a box
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QUOTE(Darkcursed @ Aug 25 2008, 10:52 AM)
hey,i was there at MIFC for the team spain,
too bad that my camera all wet,tell me what to do!
i was thinking to buy a thirst hippo then keep everything inside a box
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Err wipe it? My camera got slightly wet from the macro shoot as well. Damn rain! tongue.gif

And where are the MIFC pics?! smile.gif
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QUOTE(zio @ Aug 25 2008, 10:58 AM)
Err wipe it? My camera got slightly wet from the macro shoot as well. Damn rain! tongue.gif

And where are the MIFC pics?! smile.gif
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still havent view the other pictures also,got class this morning.
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QUOTE(vindiesal @ Aug 24 2008, 11:31 PM)
do they hav small n magnesium alloy?

it feels diff but is the photo quality oso diff?
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bro..
dun worry too much..
if it's nikon...
it's build to last...
i have a D3...
and i still feel the d40...as good as before! wink.gif

but if u get the higher models...
of coz the feel improves... tongue.gif
u cant compare d300 with d40...totally different league bro... brows.gif
enjoy ur d40...! rclxm9.gif

pic quality...
kinda...differs la...
1 is 6mp the other 12mp
d300 is summore equipped with all kinds of functions...
so yeah if u comparing raw IQ it does differs...
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Hmmm the Team Spain performance is a bit.. not too spectacular tongue.gif

Ahh fungus takes a long time to grow tongue.gif If you shoot often enough, you need not worry.
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QUOTE(zio @ Aug 25 2008, 12:01 PM)
Hmmm the Team Spain performance is a bit.. not too spectacular tongue.gif

Ahh fungus takes a long time to grow tongue.gif If you shoot often enough, you need not worry.
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Oh yeah hor Zio... your D40 only 6mp la... if you wanna zoom crop sure the IQ suffers..... how leh... literally gotta kiss the bug to retain the details?
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QUOTE(darthbaboon @ Aug 25 2008, 07:20 PM)
Oh yeah hor Zio... your D40 only 6mp la... if you wanna zoom crop sure the IQ suffers..... how leh... literally gotta kiss the bug to retain the details?
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Get up, close and personal. Can't crop too much tongue.gif

Either that or get extension tubes biggrin.gif Alternatively can cucuk the Raynox also.
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Spain, nicer than China and Canada IMO.

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Any taikor here useing D40 with Micro-Nikkor AF-S 105mm VR?
How is the Micro-Nikkor AF-S 105mm VR len ? Good?

Any picture by Micro-Nikkor AF-S 105mm VR ?
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QUOTE(loon1031 @ Aug 25 2008, 07:45 PM)
Any taikor here useing D40 with Micro-Nikkor AF-S 105mm VR?
How is the Micro-Nikkor AF-S 105mm VR len ? Good?

Any picture by Micro-Nikkor AF-S 105mm VR ?
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Look at Zio's flickr!  rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(loon1031 @ Aug 25 2008, 07:45 PM)
Any taikor here useing D40 with Micro-Nikkor AF-S 105mm VR?
How is the Micro-Nikkor AF-S 105mm VR len ? Good?

Any picture by Micro-Nikkor AF-S 105mm VR ?
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You can also look at post #84 in the previous page smile.gif


Added on August 26, 2008, 12:05 amWent home late and don't know how to find insects in the dark. So, decide to shoot something else instead.

Behold the mighty dwarf warrior, Thargas Anvilmar!!!!!

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oh zio yr nicholas leong!! lol i keep on thinking who is that guy... the 2nd shot i like the lighting man...very nice..
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oh zio yr nicholas leong!! lol i keep on thinking who is that guy... the 2nd shot i like the lighting man...very nice..
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first shot nice smile.gif properly cropped...not too much not too wide biggrin.gif lighting jun also..
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QUOTE(mindkiller6610 @ Aug 25 2008, 07:45 PM)
Spain, nicer than China and Canada IMO.

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fuiyo! mindkiller 1 always that nice.
will go for the final? we meet up there and i had to ask advice from you personally also tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Darkcursed @ Aug 26 2008, 11:58 PM)
fuiyo! mindkiller 1 always that nice.
will go for the final? we meet up there and i had to ask advice from you personally also  tongue.gif
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Eh, where do u guys set up your cameras during the fireworks show? and isn't Putrajaya jammed like heck? I heard traffic horror stories when it was held last year and decided not to go, even though it's close to my place in Kajang.
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QUOTE(dani_irwan @ Aug 27 2008, 12:47 AM)
Eh, where do u guys set up your cameras during the fireworks show? and isn't Putrajaya jammed like heck? I heard traffic horror stories when it was held last year and decided not to go, even though it's close to my place in Kajang.
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suprisingly the day i went which is 20th and it is my first time ever since this event started last year,i did not experience any jam when i go there and back despite listen to a lot of bad horror stories like you did. biggrin.gif
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now that it is free, no one rushes there anymore. Last year they charged, and everyone rushed there. Weird eh? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(zio @ Aug 27 2008, 04:38 PM)
now that it is free, no one rushes there anymore. Last year they charged, and everyone rushed there. Weird eh? tongue.gif
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Im biased towards Nikon so.. my answer is biased tongue.gif

But the 1000D does seem to have more bang for the buck compared to the D60. But then the D60 is a Nikon.

Nikon = + 1 point in my books. tongue.gif
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Better get D90 than D60 rolleyes.gif
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ha ha also change my wish gear to D90 now. 2 in 1 function look so great. Hope the price not so high maa .... lets other people try the 1st batch then waiting for pro & con.
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QUOTE(asfax @ Aug 27 2008, 07:37 PM)
ha ha also change my wish gear to D90 now. 2 in 1 function look so great. Hope the price not so high maa .... lets other people try the 1st batch then waiting for pro & con.
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Wah i can see foresee a lot of people jumping ship tongue.gif I'll be left alone!
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QUOTE(vindiesal @ Aug 27 2008, 04:58 PM)
shud i buy D60 or 1000D(which i jt heard of)?..zzzz..still not decide yet. Comparing which one is better since the price is almost the same!
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i felt so sick to answer this question anymore.
I suggest we put up a comparison between d40/x/60 and it's rival class,1000D,A200.
And also the price of d40/x/60 on the FIRST Page.

Anyway,I would tell you to go for d80 and d90.skip d60.im biased too,i hate canon.that's my answer.
if you stick with d60,you can skip d80 or d90.



QUOTE(zio @ Aug 27 2008, 07:56 PM)
Wah i can see foresee a lot of people jumping ship tongue.gif I'll be left alone!
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don't worry! i never consider jumping from sampan to ship yet.
I have to say honestly,I don't felt anything special in d80 or d90 compare to our D40,if i would jump,there will be d300 or d700 tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Darkcursed @ Aug 27 2008, 08:26 PM)
don't worry! i never consider jumping from sampan to ship yet.
I have to say honestly,I don't felt anything special in d80 or d90 compare to our D40,if i would jump,there will be d300 or d700  tongue.gif
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i do use the d40x occasionally

this d40x is given to me as my teaching aid and i find the small size to be 'fun' to use.
attach a 50 f1.8 to this camera and i have a small camera that i can go anywhere with.

true, no AF but who cares...

d40x is more than enough for what i am doing now
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D90!!! wtf HD vid capture!!

D-Movie Mode—Cinematic 24fps HD with sound: Record cinematic-quality movie clips at up to 720p HD (1280 x 720 pixels) in Motion JPEG format, enhanced by NIKKOR interchangeable lens quality and versatility.
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wah d90.. so tempting.. haha
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Wow, D90 has video? Will it then be the 1st ever DSLR which has vid-recording capability?
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I'll probably go for a D90 as a second body. Gf wants a SLR so she might be getting my D40 body for use. Dunno should get a D90 or D300... hmm....
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I'll probably go for a D90 as a second body. Gf wants a SLR so she might be getting my D40 body for use. Dunno should get a D90 or D300... hmm....
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i felt so sick to answer this question anymore.
I suggest we put up a comparison between d40/x/60 and it's rival class,1000D,A200.
And also the price of d40/x/60 on the FIRST Page.

Anyway,I would tell you to go for d80 and d90.skip d60.im biased too,i hate canon.that's my answer.
if you stick with d60,you can skip d80 or d90.
don't worry! i never consider jumping from sampan to ship yet.
I have to say honestly,I don't felt anything special in d80 or d90 compare to our D40,if i would jump,there will be d300 or d700  tongue.gif
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i feel ur pain vindiesal. btw, hope your new movie babylon AD is worth the ticket price and queing. rofl!
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I jumped from D40 to D300 before! biggrin.gif

It certainly much more worth it than jumping to D80 tongue.gif

Nothing better to do again, so go play with toys biggrin.gif

With this series, I just wanted to try something simple. Back and front focus and how it could help create different dynamics. Unfortunately, I couldn't control the lighting properly and the WB seems off as well sad.gif

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Hello guys, what do you think regarding this combination -

D60 + Tamron AF 70-300mm f/4-5.6 Di LD ?

Will the lens last me for a while before upgrading ?

The search is still on for DSLR and frankly I find that my target will be Nikon.


Added on August 28, 2008, 4:40 amAnyway zio, nice captures there you have.

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For Makro len, Tamron SB90 & Nikon 105mm VR which one more better?


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Zio, I really2 like those pics. It's like they tell a story, which is so important.
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QUOTE(mizivincible @ Aug 28 2008, 04:37 AM)
Hello guys, what do you think regarding this combination -

D60 + Tamron AF 70-300mm f/4-5.6 Di LD ?

Will the lens last me for a while before upgrading ?

The search is still on for DSLR and frankly I find that my target will be Nikon.


Added on August 28, 2008, 4:40 amAnyway zio, nice captures there you have.
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D60 with the kit lens I suppose. Is that the Tamron 70-300mm with the Macro capability?

And thanks!

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For Makro len, Tamron SB90 & Nikon 105mm VR which one more better?
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Well, you will get about the same IQ. I have used both. But the 105mm barrel doesn't move when you focus, so thats the advantage of the 105mm over the Tamron. Of course, the VR helps when you are using it for none macro shots.

QUOTE(dani_irwan @ Aug 28 2008, 08:07 AM)
Zio, I really2 like those pics. It's like they tell a story, which is so important.
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Thanks! smile.gif Thought I'll give toys shooting a different style this time around. Usually I just play with lighting tongue.gif
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QUOTE(zio @ Aug 28 2008, 09:17 AM)
D60 with the kit lens I suppose. Is that the Tamron 70-300mm with the Macro capability?

And thanks!

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Is there any D60 body only sold ? And yeah that Tamron is with the Macro capability.

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QUOTE(mizivincible @ Aug 28 2008, 10:56 AM)
Is there any D60 body only sold ? And yeah that Tamron is with the Macro capability.
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I believe you can ask for it. They usually deduct like RM300 I believe. Hrmm but wouldn't you want the 18-55mm range?
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QUOTE(zio @ Aug 28 2008, 11:24 AM)
I believe you can ask for it. They usually deduct like RM300 I believe. Hrmm but wouldn't you want the 18-55mm range?
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Owh, thanks. Anyway, if I were to get the Tammy lens (Tamron 70-300mm with the Macro capability), do you think I still need the kit lens 18-55mm ? I actually think I can save up few hundred bux blush.gif Sorry limited budget poor student here. Sold most of my pc hardwares to get DSLR to play with sweat.gif
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QUOTE(mizivincible @ Aug 28 2008, 01:36 PM)
Owh, thanks. Anyway, if I were to get the Tammy lens (Tamron 70-300mm with the Macro capability), do you think I still need the kit lens 18-55mm ? I actually think I can save up few hundred bux  blush.gif Sorry limited budget poor student here. Sold most of my pc hardwares to get DSLR to play with  sweat.gif
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QUOTE(ianho @ Aug 28 2008, 01:38 PM)
Wah! U sold all ur PC stuff? Change hobby kar? Hehe
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Because Im kinda familiar with Nikon after few months my friend's D40 in my hands, so I narrow down my choices to Nikon, still lotsa research and study to be done blush.gif


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QUOTE(mizivincible @ Aug 28 2008, 01:36 PM)
Owh, thanks. Anyway, if I were to get the Tammy lens (Tamron 70-300mm with the Macro capability), do you think I still need the kit lens 18-55mm ? I actually think I can save up few hundred bux  blush.gif Sorry limited budget poor student here. Sold most of my pc hardwares to get DSLR to play with  sweat.gif
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well, the 70-300mm is tele lens so you will have to compose things differently. Dont expect to take group shots or wide shots with the lens. I am sure you know.

It is quite a fine lens biggrin.gif I am also considering one tongue.gif
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QUOTE(zio @ Aug 28 2008, 02:01 PM)
well, the 70-300mm is tele lens so you will have to compose things differently. Dont expect to take group shots or wide shots with the lens. I am sure you know.

It is quite a fine lens biggrin.gif I am also considering one tongue.gif
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Thanks for enlighten me bro zio. I actually more into Macro and consider the lens is kinda best bang for buck. But as you said, group or wide shots, there will be time when the kit lens is needed too. Besides, Im still in learning process/progress, I guess I'll go with kit lens first, after getting understand with the camera, then only save more money to invest on better lens. What do you think ? Perhaps if go for SB600 first would be wise hmm.gif
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not really bro.
70-300 although its named MACRO...
it doesnt do actual macro...
but the focus distance is a bit shorter than the rest of the 70-300...
if u want to do macro...get a macro lense...
or use ur kit lense with raynox...
ask zio...i m sure he can tell u more...
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QUOTE(mizivincible @ Aug 28 2008, 02:22 PM)
Thanks for enlighten me bro zio. I actually more into Macro and consider the lens is kinda best bang for buck. But as you said, group or wide shots, there will be time when the kit lens is needed too. Besides, Im still in learning process/progress, I guess I'll go with kit lens first, after getting understand with the camera, then only save more money to invest on better lens. What do you think ? Perhaps if go for SB600 first would be wise  hmm.gif
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Ahh if you are into macro, stick to the kit lens. Play around with it. Then look at a dedicated macro lens. smile.gif Yes, the 70-300mm Macro does take some good macro shots but nothing beats a dedicated macro lens if you are into that biggrin.gif

But for the D60, your only choice is probably the Nikkor 105mm or the Nikkor 60mm. You can use the Tamron SP90mm but you will have to manual focus for everything. At least with the Nikkor, you can still AF for portraits or other random stuff.
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QUOTE(xandman @ Aug 28 2008, 02:26 PM)
not really bro.
70-300 although its named MACRO...
it doesnt do actual macro...
but the focus distance is a bit shorter than the rest of the 70-300...
if u want to do macro...get a macro lense...
or use ur kit lense with raynox...
ask zio...i m sure he can tell u more...
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With raynox ? Guess that'll save me few hundred bux before traveling into real Macro lens. Great. Thanks abang xandman.

QUOTE(zio @ Aug 28 2008, 02:34 PM)
Ahh if you are into macro, stick to the kit lens. Play around with it. Then look at a dedicated macro lens. smile.gif Yes, the 70-300mm Macro does take some good macro shots but nothing beats a dedicated macro lens if you are into that biggrin.gif

But for the D60, your only choice is probably the Nikkor 105mm or the Nikkor 60mm. You can use the Tamron SP90mm but you will have to manual focus for everything. At least with the Nikkor, you can still AF for portraits or other random stuff.
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Aite noted. Will take the lens info into account. Its so hard to talk technically regarding the cam when you dont have one. Perhaps this weekend I'll go hunting, hope to get a good price. vladimir did offer a good price for d60 kit but the thing is hard to trust postage nowadays, afraid that camera will be lost during shipping. He's in Penang while Im in KL.

Thanks bro zio. Im sure there's lotsa stuffs I will ask in the future, gotta learn, effective way - learn with a camera in hand laugh.gif
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abang xandman??!!!
wat the...??!!
hahahaha...
raynox is indeed cheap...
i dunno la the quality...again ask zio...
bcoz i went straight to macro lense...tongue.gif
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The more I look the more I fell in love with Fisheye, I better stop window shopping, the poison here very strong =P

Owh yeah, anyone here has experience with raynox ? Bro zio ?
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QUOTE(mizivincible @ Aug 28 2008, 03:45 PM)
The more I look the more I fell in love with Fisheye, I better stop window shopping, the poison here very strong =P

Owh yeah, anyone here has experience with raynox ? Bro zio ?
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yes? raynox! biggrin.gif

Never use on DSLR before but on the G9 ada.

Sample shots (Me no sifu in Raynox):

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For starters, I suggest going with DCR-250. Its easier to control smile.gif
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that raynox filter is really poisoning man... what lens was it used on? seems to have no distortion at all..
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that raynox filter is really poisoning man... what lens was it used on? seems to have no distortion at all..
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QUOTE(ebernie @ Aug 28 2008, 06:21 PM)
Money money money...

On second thought, maybe I'll just stick to a D40 hahaha. It's not too bad as well.

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zio : Superb shot with Raynox and G9 there bro. Tempting drool.gif

Hopefully the D60 kit price will be down with the D90 launching.
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how much are u getting the d60 plus kit lens for now?

i can get it for rm 2100 plus one extra battery for free and bag and tripod and 2gb card
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I'm thinking to grab Sigma 30mm f1.4 to pair with my D40 as well. Ebernie, anything to stop me from doing so ? tongue.gif
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Other than money and other awesome lenses (say the 10-20 Sigma thumbup.gif), nothing hehehe

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The 30mm Sigma, is a keeper for me. And to think I got it 2nd hand for 'only' RM1.1k. When the sun sets and cameras go to bed, out comes the D40+30mm Sigma wink.gif

OK, enough poison. Photos taken in Kota Kinabalu during a recent trip last weekend. Went with my full arsenal of gear: Bagman Trekka, SB600, 8 alkaline batteries, 30mm f1.4, 10-20 Sigma f4-f5.6, 18-200 Sigma f3.5-f6.3, 7 GB worth of SD. Came back with around 600 RAW files.

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Hi,

Just bought a D40X, trying to use it to take macro photos for my products...can someone please advice how to take good macro shots? I was using sony T20 before this to take macro shots of my products, it seems better in terms of the closeness i can get to my products. So i guess maybe something is wrong with my settings or my techniques. blush.gif blush.gif blush.gif

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zio : Superb shot with Raynox and G9 there bro. Tempting drool.gif

Hopefully the D60 kit price will be down with the D90 launching.
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Hi,

Just bought a D40X, trying to use it to take macro photos for my products...can someone please advice how to take good macro shots? I was using sony T20 before this to take macro shots of my products, it seems better in terms of the closeness i can get to my products. So i guess maybe something is wrong with my settings or my techniques. blush.gif  blush.gif  blush.gif

Please advice...thanks so much! notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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Ahhh you are probably using the kit lens? Its not a macro lens so you are not going to get as close as your T20's macro mode. Get a Raynox, or get a macro lens to get the job done. Alternatively, you can get lens like the 70-300mm Macro (Tamron?) and get closer than the kit lens.
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What do you think ? Perhaps if go for SB600 first would be wise  hmm.gif
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Last weekend, I got to play around with my friend's 450D and her EX450 (Canon's speedlite, not sure if the model name is correct or not). It was my 1st time trying out a speedlight...so syiok one! I was bouncing the flash left right and centre, haha...also off the ceiling! The potrait shots I took simply amazed me...a far cry from the built-in flash for my D40, which produces pics that look like passport photos, haha. Suffice to say I'm really poisoned to get an SB-600 instead of a 55-200mm for my next upgrade smile.gif so in short bro, try out both things 1st (speedlight and additional lens) b4 u decide.
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QUOTE(ifer @ Aug 28 2008, 07:44 PM)
how much are u getting the d60 plus kit lens for now?

i can get it for rm 2100 plus one extra battery for free and bag and tripod and 2gb card
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I see, will scout around this weekend, if got no better offer sure I'll get back to you okie.

QUOTE(zio @ Aug 28 2008, 10:45 PM)
Hehe its a good start to macro by using the Raynox biggrin.gif
Ahhh you are probably using the kit lens? Its not a macro lens so you are not going to get as close as your T20's macro mode. Get a Raynox, or get a macro lens to get the job done. Alternatively, you can get lens like the 70-300mm Macro (Tamron?) and get closer than the kit lens.
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Will definitely trying out the Raynox first before jumping to higher end macro lens. Judging from the pic you taken by Raynox, it was so nice icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(dani_irwan @ Aug 28 2008, 11:42 PM)
Last weekend, I got to play around with my friend's 450D and her EX450 (Canon's speedlite, not sure if the model name is correct or not). It was my 1st time trying out a speedlight...so syiok one! I was bouncing the flash left right and centre, haha...also off the ceiling! The potrait shots I took simply amazed me...a far cry from the built-in flash for my D40, which produces pics that look like passport photos, haha. Suffice to say I'm really poisoned to get an SB-600 instead of a 55-200mm for my next upgrade smile.gif so in short bro, try out both things 1st (speedlight and additional lens) b4 u decide.
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I see, yeah, SB600 is the speedlite that doesnt burn the hole in wallet yet performing wise. I really love the bounce flash. Today went to photoshoot skate competition in my college, the built in flash for my friend's D40 wasnt sufficient at all cry.gif
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QUOTE(dani_irwan @ Aug 28 2008, 11:42 PM)
Last weekend, I got to play around with my friend's 450D and her EX450 (Canon's speedlite, not sure if the model name is correct or not). It was my 1st time trying out a speedlight...so syiok one! I was bouncing the flash left right and centre, haha...also off the ceiling! The potrait shots I took simply amazed me...a far cry from the built-in flash for my D40, which produces pics that look like passport photos, haha. Suffice to say I'm really poisoned to get an SB-600 instead of a 55-200mm for my next upgrade smile.gif so in short bro, try out both things 1st (speedlight and additional lens) b4 u decide.
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I see, will scout around this weekend, if got no better offer sure I'll get back to you okie.
Will definitely trying out the Raynox first before jumping to higher end macro lens. Judging from the pic you taken by Raynox, it was so nice  icon_rolleyes.gif
I see, yeah, SB600 is the speedlite that doesnt burn the hole in wallet yet performing wise. I really love the bounce flash. Today went to photoshoot skate competition in my college, the built in flash for my friend's D40 wasnt sufficient at all  cry.gif
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if u ask me, i would say get the sb600 first, then only get the 55-200mm VR..
flash has so much of usages not just for portrait shooting..
the 55-200mm VR has a small aperture in 200mm, either u need higher ISO, together slower exposure time.. or u just fire the flash gun,
of coz u won't fire flash gun if u are stalking the birds.. that's why birder use large and fast tele lens.. lol...

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wooo new toy! 30mm? or 70-200mm? or 105mm? biggrin.gif
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whats the major differences between D40 and D60 (except megapizels)?

besides Nikon D40/D60, what other brand DLSR cameras falls on the same level (price/specs/performance wise)?

any idea? pls advice.


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whats the major differences between D40 and D60 (except megapizels)?

besides Nikon D40/D60, what other brand DLSR cameras falls on the same level (price/specs/performance wise)?

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D60 has dust sensor cleaning mechanism smile.gif Probably Sony A200 and the Canon 1000D..
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whats the major differences between D40 and D60 (except megapizels)?

besides Nikon D40/D60, what other brand DLSR cameras falls on the same level (price/specs/performance wise)?

any idea? pls advice.
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D40 kit lens do not come with the VR (vibration reduction) function.
VR is like 'anti shake' kinda thing

it's useful i would say
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its not anti shake..its only vibration reduction biggrin.gif REDUCE not eliminate biggrin.gif haha...


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its a layman sort of explanation to those who do now know what VR is all about.


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haha... ok ok..sorry yeah..but i feel that the VR on the 55-200mm at the longest end isnt that sharp... have to hold more still...maybe its my own hands...
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http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/778078

Check this out, too bad its in Sg. Else would have gone and grab D60 kit sad.gif
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wow..thats really cheap...at current rate its only 1.8k with 8GB card somemore..
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QUOTE(mizivincible @ Aug 29 2008, 02:36 PM)
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/778078

Check this out, too bad its in Sg. Else would have gone and grab D60 kit sad.gif
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yeah, $788..... smile.gif

im still thinking Nikon D40/D6 or the new Canon 1000D...arghh..
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yeah, $788..... smile.gif

im still thinking Nikon D40/D6 or the new Canon 1000D...arghh..
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Either the D60 or the 1000D smile.gif If you are not too particular about the brand, then the 1000D might have better features than the D60.
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QUOTE(zio @ Aug 29 2008, 02:42 PM)
I wouldn't recommend Nikon D40 at this current moment. It is already quite old smile.gif

Either the D60 or the 1000D smile.gif If you are not too particular about the brand, then the 1000D might have better features than the D60.
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thanks for the tip

yeah, im thinking Canon 1000D since its newer and more features, (eg Live View,etc)
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QUOTE(wiNd @ Aug 29 2008, 02:45 PM)
thanks for the tip

yeah, im thinking Canon 1000D since its newer and more features, (eg Live View,etc)
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My case is Im already familiar with Nikon interface, so it might awkward using other brand, not that I dont wanna learn, its just I simply love Nikon interface (But to be truth yesterday using Canon 400d, the menu is simpler than Nikon as it has few shortcut buttons).

But based on 1000D review from dpreview.com, it doesnt score much compared to D60. But that's just a review. Buy what you think is right, afterall its your DSLR and you'll be the one who use it, not the people from the review tho icon_rolleyes.gif
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fuiyoh 85mm!!! portrait master in da house!
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I personally do not think that a NEW little Koala bear stuff toy is something to be excited about. Hrmph... tongue.gif

I thought you getting 70-200 geh... how come 85mm pulak.

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I personally do not think that a NEW little Koala bear stuff toy is something to be excited about. Hrmph...  tongue.gif

I thought you getting 70-200 geh... how come 85mm pulak.
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wah...
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i miss my 85! sad.gif
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I hope they announce an AF-S 10.5mm biggrin.gif wahahaha
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I hope they announce an AF-S 10.5mm biggrin.gif wahahaha
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I hope they announce an AF-S 10.5mm biggrin.gif wahahaha
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my EX zeiss u mean...
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the ring too stiff...i need zeiss 2/100! brows.gif
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85mm f1.4 or f1.8? If it's the f1.4 then I'm slightly jealous wink.gif
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my EX zeiss u mean...
hahahhaa...
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85mm f1.4 or f1.8? If it's the f1.4 then I'm slightly jealous wink.gif
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where got expensive toy bro...
now i dun have anymore expensive toy...=(

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Conducting 85mm sharpness test. Will post up once done. Stay tune wink.gif
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KTCY...the bokeh nice oh...gz on yr new lens biggrin.gif
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wah 85mm..

but it does not have AF on d40 wor..

a sign for body upgrade ?? brows.gif

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wah 85mm..

but it does not have AF on d40 wor..

a sign for body upgrade ?? brows.gif
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Body upgrade ? Not so soon as I been in MF for months already blush.gif
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any idea what type of prime lens D60 can use?
with AF-S
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some of the popular prime lens with AF-S

AF-S Micro Nikkor 60mm F2.8G ED
AF-S VR Micro-Nikkor 105mm F2.8G IF-ED
Sigma 50mm F1.4 EX DG HSM
Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DG HSM

refer to the 1st post of this thread for more compatible prime lens with AFS/HSM, orenzai made a comprehensive list there.

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Nikon seems to be quite slow in coming out with AF-S primes. I'm guessing it is b'cos or pricing.
Anyway..... with Canon having 2 low end models (1000D + 450D) and Nikon just launching a D90 an upgraded D60 might be on its way soon (hopefully with AF-motor built in).
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Nikon spent all their resource on creating a vid recording SLR brows.gif
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i am currently stuck with get the lens(55-200mm vr) or flash(sb-600) first , i got the sb400 , it really not enough, the speed is lower then the build in flash, it just can bounce the flash only.......


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i am currently stuck with get the lens(55-200mm vr)  or flash(sb-600)  first , i got the sb400 , it really not enough, the speed is lower then the build in flash, it just can bounce the flash only.......
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Hey guys, is RM1400 a good price for a second hand Nikon D40 kit? It still has a few months of warranty left, and the shutter count is around 2K+.

I'm very new to photography so I'd like to try D40 first before upgrading to better cameras biggrin.gif
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Hey guys, is RM1400 a good price for a second hand Nikon D40 kit? It still has a few months of warranty left, and the shutter count is around 2K+.

I'm very new to photography so I'd like to try D40 first before upgrading to better cameras biggrin.gif
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that sounds kinda expensive..

how much is d60 price nowadays ??
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QUOTE(juhjuh @ Aug 30 2008, 04:11 PM)
Hey guys, is RM1400 a good price for a second hand Nikon D40 kit? It still has a few months of warranty left, and the shutter count is around 2K+.

I'm very new to photography so I'd like to try D40 first before upgrading to better cameras biggrin.gif
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New set of D40 around RM 1,400++ only.
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Aug 30 2008, 11:06 PM)
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Nice bokeh on that lens....

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QUOTE(mindkiller6610 @ Aug 30 2008, 06:27 PM)
that sounds kinda expensive..

how much is d60 price nowadays ??
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how much are u getting the d60 plus kit lens for now?

i can get it for rm 2100 plus one extra battery for free and bag and tripod and 2gb card
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Seems like a good bargain. I think Im gonna talk to my dad later this evening. Wish me luck laugh.gif


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you exposed wrong part ler sweat.gif
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You mean the background ? I personally think that picture brings out the clown and the kid icon_rolleyes.gif

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Nice bokeh on that lens....
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Thanks.

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you exposed wrong part ler sweat.gif
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What you mean ?

QUOTE(mizivincible @ Aug 31 2008, 03:08 AM)
Bro ifer can get it for RM2.1k -
Seems like a good bargain. I think Im gonna talk to my dad later this evening. Wish me luck  laugh.gif


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You mean the background ? I personally think that picture brings out the clown and the kid  icon_rolleyes.gif
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he mean that the foreground is slightly underexposed..
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If the background didn't over, the clown and the kid will under.
I didn't use fill in flash that's the reason. I'd opt for correct exposure on the clown and kid blush.gif
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QUOTE(mizivincible @ Aug 31 2008, 03:08 AM)
Bro ifer can get it for RM2.1k -
Seems like a good bargain. I think Im gonna talk to my dad later this evening. Wish me luck  laugh.gif
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yeah, it is part of the nikon malaysia deal for arts uni in malaysia.
they have this offer for my uni for the first 5 weeks of a new semester. for those who remember, i did 'promote' it approximately half year ago.

anyway, KTCY
nice photo you have there. i dont find the exposure to be 'wrong'
what i find it interesting is the fact that the clown and the kid were like in a world of their own.
the whole place looked boring, with the people at the back doing nothing but day dreaming rotting.
but for these 2 people, they are enjoying themselves.
the kid's expression says a lot and the action of the clown compliment it.

it is a nice photo in my opinion.
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Aug 31 2008, 09:31 AM)
If the background didn't over, the clown and the kid will under.
I didn't use fill in flash that's the reason. I'd opt for correct exposure on the clown and kid blush.gif
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QUOTE(ifer @ Aug 31 2008, 11:46 AM)
yeah, it is part of the nikon malaysia deal for arts uni in malaysia.
they have this offer for my uni for the first 5 weeks of a new semester. for those who remember, i did 'promote' it approximately half year ago.

anyway, KTCY
nice photo you have there. i dont find the exposure to be 'wrong'
what i find it interesting is the fact that the clown and the kid were like in a world of their own.
the whole place looked boring, with the people at the back doing nothing but day dreaming rotting.
but for these 2 people, they are enjoying themselves.
the kid's expression says a lot and the action of the clown compliment it.

it is a nice photo in my opinion.
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thats when the big guns come into good use biggrin.gif
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That's my friend's lens blush.gif
I keep on "molest" the lens whenever I saw it blush.gif
I scare later that 70-200 VR will go make a police report for keep molesting it sad.gif
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QUOTE(mindkiller6610 @ Aug 31 2008, 09:26 AM)
he mean that the foreground is slightly underexposed..
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If that's the case then just overexpose the background. Since the subject is what's important, I know I wouldn't care if the background is out (you can crop away too). Anyway, hope to see more stuff from the 85mm (though personally, I've seen my share of 85mm poison, but I just love that lens so much I wouldn't mind seeing more). Why didn't just grab the 85mm f1.4? If you did that, I'll be *very* *very* jealous tongue.gif

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QUOTE(ebernie @ Aug 31 2008, 05:31 PM)
If that's the case then just overexpose the background. Since the subject is what's important, I know I wouldn't care if the background is out (you can crop away too). Anyway, hope to see more stuff from the 85mm (though personally, I've seen my share of 85mm poison, but I just love that lens so much I wouldn't mind seeing more). Why didn't just grab the 85mm f1.4? If you did that, I'll be *very* *very* jealous tongue.gif
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Cause 85mm f1.8 I get it for a very reasonable price brows.gif


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Hello, just wanna ask anyone who is using Nissin Di622 ? How its perform ?

http://shashinki.com/shop/nissin-di622-dig...res-p-1026.html

Or any aftermarket speedlite that can match SB600 with the budget around RM400-500 ?


Added on September 1, 2008, 6:11 amEdit : Found the review by brother orenzai. A good speelite I must say. Can get it I guess and save some for prime lens brows.gif

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QUOTE(KTCY @ Sep 1 2008, 12:41 AM)
Cause 85mm f1.8 I get it for a very reasonable price brows.gif


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first shot not close enough... 2nd shot punya letus too distracting lar sweat.gif

QUOTE(mizivincible @ Sep 1 2008, 02:48 AM)
Hello, just wanna ask anyone who is using Nissin Di622 ? How its perform ?

http://shashinki.com/shop/nissin-di622-dig...res-p-1026.html

Or any aftermarket speedlite that can match SB600 with the budget around RM400-500 ?


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sb600 is nikon de...sure better than third party...but the nissin flash that i got is like rm300 cheaper than a new sb600 so isnt that a steal?
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Hi guys..I m looking for CPL filter for my d60 kits lens.. Any recommendation?
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Hoya CPL will do actually smile.gif
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QUOTE(orenzai @ Sep 1 2008, 10:46 AM)
first shot not close enough... 2nd shot punya letus too distracting lar sweat.gif
sb600 is nikon de...sure better than third party...but the nissin flash that i got is like rm300 cheaper than a new sb600 so isnt that a steal?
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I see, thanks. I guess after getting the D60, first toy would be that Di622. Want to get good potrait tho.
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Hoya CPL will do actually smile.gif
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hi thanks man...
jz now i talked to my frens, they said not recommend me to buy CPL filter for kit lens. Coz effect not good....and at the end i will upgrade to a better lens and the CPL will wasted coz might be not same size.....really? blink.gif
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hi thanks man...
jz now i talked to my frens, they said not recommend me to buy CPL filter for kit lens. Coz effect not good....and at the end i will upgrade to a better lens and the CPL will wasted coz might be not same size.....really? blink.gif
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Not really. I used CPL yesterday and it really make the sky look even more blue. Well, kit lens of D40 is very good if you know how to utilize it smile.gif

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QUOTE(KTCY @ Sep 1 2008, 08:41 PM)
Not really. I used CPL yesterday and it really make the sky look even more blue. Well, kit lens of D40 is very good if you know how to utilize it smile.gif
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thanks a lot man...
i just did a research from Hoya website. Wats the diff between pro1d series and the normal 1? My D60 kits lens is without any UV nor CPL filter. Can i add both to the lens? Sorry i m quite new in photography..gotta learn from you guys.
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I no money to get Pro1d :( but if for my future 70-200 VR, I will get B+W filter brows.gif
Yes, you can atatch both UV and CPL filter at the same time.
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my friend bought a Pro UV hoya for his kit lens doh.gif the tauke recomen so he bought tongue.gif
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Don't think so mate smile.gif
CPL is not a must actually
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QUOTE(mizivincible @ Sep 1 2008, 07:07 PM)
I see, thanks. I guess after getting the D60, first toy would be that Di622. Want to get good potrait tho.
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Sep 1 2008, 08:41 PM)
Not really. I used CPL yesterday and it really make the sky look even more blue. Well, kit lens of D40 is very good if you know how to utilize it smile.gif
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d40/x kt lens almost produce a good image as 17-55 f2.8. i read in kenrockwell..

btw, how to take reading? i readi sumwhr, n sound sumthng like this "spotted the sky n take reading, n spotted the model n take reading. n i choose the reading btw 2 reading to bla bla bla bla.." i dun really get that.. icon_question.gif

one more, whr to get rubber grip service? my dad's d70 tear n wear.. icon_question.gif

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QUOTE(shiinkuro31 @ Sep 2 2008, 09:42 AM)
if u r not rushing. better save some more for sb600..
d40/x kt lens almost produce a good image as 17-55 f2.8. i read in kenrockwell..

btw, how to take reading? i readi sumwhr, n sound sumthng like this "spotted the sky n take reading, n spotted the model n take reading. n i choose the reading btw 2 reading to bla bla bla bla.." i dun really get that.. icon_question.gif

one more, whr to get rubber grip service? my dad's d70 tear n wear..  icon_question.gif
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if you think logically.. a lens that is about 12 times the price of the other...will the results be the same? not to bad mouth about the kit lens i mean its really good for the price you pay for but once you see the really good lenses like the 17-55 that you mentioned, the results are different...maybe you wont see it under small resolution but once you go 8R you can already see quite an obvious difference..
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QUOTE(orenzai @ Sep 2 2008, 01:55 PM)
if you think logically.. a lens that is about 12 times the price of the other...will the results be the same? not to bad mouth about the kit lens i mean its really good for the price you pay for but once you see the really good lenses like the 17-55 that you mentioned, the results are different...maybe you wont see it under small resolution but once you go 8R you can already see quite an obvious difference..
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my reply, a quote from kenrockwell..
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In some ways the cheaper 18-70 mm and 18-55 mm lenses do the same or more and cost a lot less. This professional 17-55 just feels more solid and inspires more confidence and is a stop faster. The images aren't any different.

It works great, which it had better do for $1,250. It feels right: it's solid metal with engraved markings. Don't pay extra for it if you're hoping distortion would be gone: the $150 plastic 18-55 mm has similar distortion at the wide end and much less distortion at the long end!

Buy one if you need to look tough and have a lens you can use for self defense. Personally I prefer my lighter 18-55mm kit lens, which gives about the same results optically for digital, even the D2X. Digital isn't very tough on lenses compared to what we did with 35mm film. I'm not particular to needing f/2.8 for low light; I use slower lenses and crank up the ISO.

this lense used to be in my wishlist. I made my opinion from people's review since I dun have chance to try this lense.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(shiinkuro31 @ Sep 2 2008, 09:42 AM)
if u r not rushing. better save some more for sb600..
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I thought so too, but the price differ RM300 is a point there, and orenzai did a good review about it. Still not sure tho.
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QUOTE(shiinkuro31 @ Sep 2 2008, 02:53 PM)
my reply, a quote from kenrockwell..
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In some ways the cheaper 18-70 mm and 18-55 mm lenses do the same or more and cost a lot less. This professional 17-55 just feels more solid and inspires more confidence and is a stop faster. The images aren't any different.

It works great, which it had better do for $1,250. It feels right: it's solid metal with engraved markings. Don't pay extra for it if you're hoping distortion would be gone: the $150 plastic 18-55 mm has similar distortion at the wide end and much less distortion at the long end!

Buy one if you need to look tough and have a lens you can use for self defense. Personally I prefer my lighter 18-55mm kit lens, which gives about the same results optically for digital, even the D2X. Digital isn't very tough on lenses compared to what we did with 35mm film. I'm not particular to needing f/2.8 for low light; I use slower lenses and crank up the ISO.

this lense used to be in my wishlist. I made my opinion from people's review since I dun have chance to try this lense.. smile.gif
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Hello guys, I've been looking at a D60 for quite sometime now. I've been reading up a lot too. As I've never used a DSLR, but I'm really interested to take up and learn photography as a hobby. And I've made up my mind to get a D60 as a start.

Any recommendation for a place to get a brand new 1, anyone knows a shop with a knowledgeable and friendly enough to let me know every pros and cons hands on? I know, I've also compared and read reviews at dpreview.

Please do let me know the place that gives the best offer, sharing knowledge, etc via pm or this thread.

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QUOTE(kenlimfornication @ Sep 2 2008, 05:20 PM)
Hello guys, I've been looking at a D60 for quite sometime now. I've been reading up a lot too. As I've never used a DSLR, but I'm really interested to take up and learn photography as a hobby. And I've made up my mind to get a D60 as a start.

Any recommendation for a place to get a brand new 1, anyone knows a shop with a knowledgeable and friendly enough to let me know every pros and cons hands on? I know, I've also compared and read reviews at dpreview.

Please do let me know the place that gives the best offer, sharing knowledge, etc via pm or this thread.

Thanks!
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Where are you located? If you're in the Klang Valley, I heard that YL Camera and J-One gets good votes from all the peeps. For their addresses, just check out Page 1 in the D300 thread, or do a random search... they have been mentioned everywhere.

For sharing knowledge, anyone in this thread or forums should be able to help you out... or at least, we pretend to be knowledgable. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(shiinkuro31 @ Sep 2 2008, 02:53 PM)
my reply, a quote from kenrockwell..
QUOTE(kenrockwell)
In some ways the cheaper 18-70 mm and 18-55 mm lenses do the same or more and cost a lot less. This professional 17-55 just feels more solid and inspires more confidence and is a stop faster. The images aren't any different.

It works great, which it had better do for $1,250. It feels right: it's solid metal with engraved markings. Don't pay extra for it if you're hoping distortion would be gone: the $150 plastic 18-55 mm has similar distortion at the wide end and much less distortion at the long end!

Buy one if you need to look tough and have a lens you can use for self defense. Personally I prefer my lighter 18-55mm kit lens, which gives about the same results optically for digital, even the D2X. Digital isn't very tough on lenses compared to what we did with 35mm film. I'm not particular to needing f/2.8 for low light; I use slower lenses and crank up the ISO.

this lense used to be in my wishlist. I made my opinion from people's review since I dun have chance to try this lense.. smile.gif
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aduh now D700 so cheap...better get a FF f2.8... brows.gif
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QUOTE(shiinkuro31 @ Sep 2 2008, 02:53 PM)
this lense used to be in my wishlist. I made my opinion from people's review since I dun have chance to try this lense..  smile.gif
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i would suggest you to try the 2.8 lens before you actually believe what kenrockwell said.
i am not saying that that person is full of crap, but i am saying that you should have your own opinion on these 2 lenses after you have tried it.

but then again...
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QUOTE(mizivincible @ Sep 2 2008, 03:32 PM)
I thought so too, but the price differ RM300 is a point there, and orenzai did a good review about it. Still not sure tho.
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Don't know about you guys, but I wish I have a SB400 instead of the SB600 I'm using now whenever I go hiking. It's no fun carrying a heavy flash when you're panting climbing up hill/mountain, and the fact you don't need that much flash power for fill flash.

It's no fun either carrying a heavy flash on holiday (I do backpacking).

Your requirements are different than mine, I'm sure. But heck, I think SB400 suits my needs more than my SB600.

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QUOTE(tuxxie @ Sep 2 2008, 11:01 PM)
Don't know about you guys, but I wish I have a SB400 instead of the SB600 I'm using now whenever I go hiking. It's no fun carrying a heavy flash when you're panting climbing up hill/mountain, and the fact you don't need that much flash power for fill flash.

It's no fun either carrying a heavy flash on holiday (I do backpacking).

Your requirements are different than mine, I'm sure. But heck, I think SB400 suits my needs more than my SB600.
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Then will you trade your SB600 for SB400 ? I dont mind go buy new SB400 and trade with your SB600. Haha. Joking bro tongue.gif

I think you can put it up for sale, and get the SB400 tho.
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basically the sb400 isnt really peoples choice because of the not so powerful flash... if you said you wanna use it outdoors, whats the use of having a sb400 when you cant bounce the flash ler? better just use direct flash smile.gif
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QUOTE(orenzai @ Sep 2 2008, 11:59 PM)
basically the sb400 isnt really peoples choice because of the not so powerful flash... if you said you wanna use it outdoors, whats the use of having a sb400 when you cant bounce the flash ler? better just use direct flash smile.gif
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If compare the SB800 & SB600, what is the difference?
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QUOTE(loon1031 @ Sep 3 2008, 08:59 AM)
If compare the SB800 & SB600, what is the difference?
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This might give a helping hand smile.gif
http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/sb600vs800.htm
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QUOTE(szyap @ Sep 3 2008, 12:39 AM)
orenzai is right tho...
wat d use of external flash outdoor?  rclxub.gif
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The SB600 does wonders outdoors. I use it as fill-flash (direct flash if you're wondering) to eliminate harsh shadows especially when I shoot outdoors. Typical scenarios:

1. Person is in the sun. Eye and face are full of ugly shadows if I take using natural light. I'll usually use the SB600, flash exposure compensation at -1 or -0.7 in iTTL-BL. See the pics below for example:

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2. Person is in the shade but the environment is still very bright. What will happen is that if I use natural light, I'll either underexpose the person while keeping the environment properly exposed or I'll expose the person correctly while blowing out the environment. I'll mount the SB600, again dial-in -0.7 or -1 compensation in iTTL-BL and meter for the environment then underexpose it slightly (about 1 stop) by increasing the shutter slightly.

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Today I got a confirmation on at least 3 lenses (released at Photokina):

* AF-S 50mm 1.4 G - replacement is coming (confirmed)
* AF-S 85mm 1.4 G - replacement is coming (confirmed)
* AF-S 70-200mm 2,8 VRII - replacement is coming (confirmed)

http://nikonrumors.com/

rclxm9.gif Time to grab 70-200 new version rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Sep 3 2008, 12:08 PM)
Today I got a confirmation on at least 3 lenses (released at Photokina):

    * AF-S 50mm 1.4 G - replacement is coming (confirmed)
    * AF-S 85mm 1.4 G - replacement is coming (confirmed)
    * AF-S 70-200mm 2,8 VRII - replacement is coming (confirmed)

http://nikonrumors.com/

rclxm9.gif Time to grab 70-200 new version rclxm9.gif
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Oh, wah lau! Dream lenses! Hahahahahah I'm VERY VERY HAPPY. Now I'll wait for a price war between the Sigma 50mm f1.4 and Nikkor 50mm f1.4. And will there be a price drop for the 70-200mm VRI? Hahahahaha

But worried about the prices though!
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70-200 VR I will stop production. Remaining stock will get cheaper a little bit I guess.
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holy shit!! nikkor 50mm afs?? weee!!
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the old 50mm 1.4 alone is already expensive..

now with AF-S... rclxub.gif rclxub.gif ..

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It should be the price of 50mm f1.4 ++ abit tongue.gif
Well, old 50mm should be discontinue by then smile.gif
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Sep 3 2008, 12:42 PM)
It should be the price of 50mm f1.4 ++ abit tongue.gif
Well, old 50mm should be discontinue by then smile.gif
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Search somewhere in the site I'm pretty certain that they had the 50mm f1.4 AF-S rumored to be about USD 700.
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50mm f1.4 is not really expensive right?
less than rm 1000
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Search somewhere in the site I'm pretty certain that they had the 50mm f1.4 AF-S rumored to be about USD 700.
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That sound expensive. Around Sigma 50mm f1.4 price hmm.gif

QUOTE(ifer @ Sep 3 2008, 12:44 PM)
50mm f1.4 is not really expensive right?
less than rm 1000
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Around Rm 1,000 smile.gif
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which one will u get?
a sigma 50mm f1.4 hsm or a nikkor 50mm f1.4 afs?

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oh sheet! USD700?? not so wee! anymore. sad.gif
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Well, is 1.4 after all right ? tongue.gif
Wonder how many will grab this. It's a superb lens to pair with D40/x/D60 brows.gif

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At US$700, it is pricey. More than double the price of the current f1.4.

Might as well use the US$700 to secure a 2nd hand D80. tongue.gif More AF points, can use older lenses tongue.gif
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QUOTE(zio @ Sep 3 2008, 01:13 PM)
At US$700, it is pricey. More than double the price of the current f1.4.

Might as well use the US$700 to secure a 2nd hand D80. tongue.gif More AF points, can use older lenses tongue.gif
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Here's the link : http://nikonrumors.com/2008/08/10/new-niko...-september.aspx

EURO 650 (Around 600 - 700 USD)

Unless the new lens is something revolutionary, otherwise just get a motor-in-body camera and buy the older but very much cheaper 50 f1.4. Btw, the Sigma version is RM 1,850.

So the Nikon would prolly cost the same as the Sigma... shakehead.gif

IMO, a stupid HSM/AF-S isn't worth the extra RM 1k.

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If the Sigma is RM1850 then most likely the Nikkor version will burst the RM2k range.

Which means, expensive alert!

On an unrelated note, was shooting Hanoi with the 105mm and wow, shooting with a prime is so much more challenging and satisfying.
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QUOTE(zio @ Sep 3 2008, 01:24 PM)
If the Sigma is RM1850 then most likely the Nikkor version will burst the RM2k range.

Which means, expensive alert!

On an unrelated note, was shooting Hanoi with the 105mm and wow, shooting with a prime is so much more challenging and satisfying.
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Pics or it didn't happen!  tongue.gif

Oh yeah hor... you're back di!! How was it? Beautiful (Both gals and scenery)?  tongue.gif
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Lol it was hot. Haven't even load the pics into the computer tongue.gif Then its going to be a long, long process of sorting, cropping, watermarking.. zzzz tongue.gif
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QUOTE(zio @ Sep 3 2008, 01:28 PM)
Lol it was hot. Haven't even load the pics into the computer tongue.gif Then its going to be a long, long process of sorting, cropping, watermarking.. zzzz tongue.gif
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*Hot* meaning temperature burning hand hot or *Hot* as in make you sweat and salivate hot? tongue.gif
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d40 was released end of 2006..will there be any new model for nikon entry dslr similar to d40?
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QUOTE(pangping1510 @ Sep 3 2008, 01:38 PM)
d40 was released end of 2006..will there be any new model for nikon entry dslr similar to d40?
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It's called the D60. ;p

The D40X has already stopped production I believe, and the D40 will too at the end of this year. I believe Nikon will move for the D60 to take over the D40's market.

It'll prolly look something like this :

D60 => D80 => D90 => D300 => D700 => D3 => D3X
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QUOTE(darthbaboon @ Sep 3 2008, 01:30 PM)
*Hot* meaning temperature burning hand hot or *Hot* as in make you sweat and salivate hot?  tongue.gif
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RM 1k is not expensive for a f1.4 prime lens. If RM1.8k, it borders my budget for a good lens but I'm sure the price will come down.

IMHO, I won't mind paying slightly more for the premium lenses. I've said it before - you get much more than just HSM/AFS. Expensive lenses means SLD & multi-coated glasses, better sharpness, and usually a better build (internal focus, no moving parts, all-sealed body, metal mount, damped focusing ring, etc). Remember HSM/AFS gives much more than just auto-focus - it gives fast & silent auto focus.

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QUOTE(ebernie @ Sep 3 2008, 01:47 PM)
RM 1k is not expensive for a f1.4 prime lens.

IMHO, I won't mind paying slightly more for the premium lenses. I've said it before - you get much more than just HSM/AFS. Expensive lenses means SLD & multi-coated glasses, better sharpness, and usually a better build (internal focus, no moving parts, all-sealed body, metal mount, damped focusing ring, etc). Remember HSM/AFS gives much more than just auto-focus - it gives fast & silent auto focus.
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Ermm US$700 is above the RM2k barrier. RM1k is not expensive for the current f1.4, that I agree. Heck, you can get it below RM1k anyway.

RM2.4k for a 50mm f1.4 AFS is expensive to me. If they are really selling it at US$700.
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holy shit!! nikkor 50mm afs?? weee!!
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Here's the link : http://nikonrumors.com/2008/08/10/new-niko...-september.aspx

EURO 650 (Around 600 - 700 USD)

Unless the new lens is something revolutionary, otherwise just get a motor-in-body camera and buy the older but very much cheaper 50 f1.4. Btw, the Sigma version is RM 1,850.

So the Nikon would prolly cost the same as the Sigma...  shakehead.gif

IMO, a stupid HSM/AF-S isn't worth the extra RM 1k.
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QUOTE(zio @ Sep 3 2008, 01:50 PM)
RM2.4k for a 50mm f1.4 AFS is expensive to me. If they are really selling it at US$700.
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same goes to me, better top up another model + AF version..
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Better camera + old optic = Good choice.
Is like getting D300 + Ais lens still I manage to capture decent photos tongue.gif
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Sep 3 2008, 02:51 PM)
Better camera + old optic = Good choice.
Is like getting D300 + Ais lens still I manage to capture decent photos tongue.gif
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One can say the same thing with mediocre camera + good optics wink.gif

If both are equally the same, my personal 2 sen is to go for good optics/lens because they depreciate only a little over time. Not so true for a good body. The D300 for example has dropped tremendously after its initial launch. Use to be very difficult to find anything for less than 5k 2nd hand. Nowadays it hovers around 4.4k for those with a couple of months of warranty left.

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and lenses weight more in photo quality than camera body..

but if the af-s 50mm really 2.4k, i think i will go for the 105mm VR, at least i can do macro and portrait with that..

well.. that's if i have the money lah.. haha.. lol.
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hehehe 50mm also can do portrait and macro tongue.gif
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QUOTE(darthbaboon @ Sep 3 2008, 04:40 PM)
It's called the D60. ;p

The D40X has already stopped production I believe, and the D40 will too at the end of this year. I believe Nikon will move for the D60 to take over the D40's market.

It'll prolly look something like this :

D60 => D80 => D90 => D300 => D700 => D3 => D3X
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hehehe 50mm also can do portrait and macro tongue.gif
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With Rayrox 250 ? brows.gif
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1:1 macro + 31cm working distance from 105 vr..

50mm+ Raynox maybe get 1:1, but i think u need to go much more nearer to the subject..
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QUOTE(orenzai @ Sep 2 2008, 11:59 PM)
basically the sb400 isnt really peoples choice because of the not so powerful flash... if you said you wanna use it outdoors, whats the use of having a sb400 when you cant bounce the flash ler? better just use direct flash smile.gif
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zio, kenrockwell says the 105mm VR has some serious focus breathing issue,
http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/105vr.htm#breathing

is it true ??
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Sep 3 2008, 06:17 PM)
With Rayrox 250 ? brows.gif
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QUOTE(mindkiller6610 @ Sep 3 2008, 08:14 PM)
1:1 macro + 31cm working distance from 105 vr..

50mm+ Raynox maybe get 1:1, but i think u need to go much more nearer to the subject..
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Haha true, but just saying ma tongue.gif 50mm and Raynox can't get 1:1 I think. Close, but not 1:1.

QUOTE(mindkiller6610 @ Sep 3 2008, 09:34 PM)
zio, kenrockwell says the 105mm VR has some serious focus breathing issue,
http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/105vr.htm#breathing

is it true ??
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Ehhhh what exactly is a breathing issue? My lens dont breathe! tongue.gif I read it and I still dont understand what he means. You boleh explain kah?
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QUOTE(mindkiller6610 @ Sep 3 2008, 09:34 PM)
zio, kenrockwell says the 105mm VR has some serious focus breathing issue,
http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/105vr.htm#breathing

is it true ??
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Good news !! Tamron is upgrading the SP90 macro lens with built in motor. rclxms.gif

A macro lens with built in motor for D40/40x/60 finally!!!
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0809/08090205tamron_AF90mm.asp
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QUOTE(project-o @ Sep 3 2008, 10:24 PM)
Good news !! Tamron is upgrading the SP90 macro lens with built in motor.  rclxms.gif 

A macro lens with built in motor for D40/40x/60 finally!!!
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0809/08090205tamron_AF90mm.asp
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Apa la u. tongue.gif Nikkor 105mm got built-in motor for D40/40x/60 ma tongue.gif Got VR somemore!

Hehe but it indeed good news as the SP90 is a very good lens.
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I wonder what other new releases will we see from Third Party Lens manufacturers come Photokina... what with Nikon releasing so many new bodies, lenses, and Canon/Sony pretty much doing the same as well.
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focus breathing i think he means is when u turn the focusing ring slightly, the image / composition in a frame changes alot..

like with my kit lens, i notice the frame coverage changes abit when i use focus to different distance.
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Should read "not-so-costly" macro lens with built-in motor. tongue.gif
QUOTE(zio @ Sep 3 2008, 10:26 PM)
Apa la u. tongue.gif Nikkor 105mm got built-in motor for D40/40x/60 ma tongue.gif Got VR somemore!

Hehe but it indeed good news as the SP90 is a very good lens.
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My biggest concern is that it's very hard to get precise macro framing because the image size changes greatly (breathes) while focusing. You need to use AF-C and move yourself in and out to frame. You can't move yourself and then focus, because the image size changes so much that you can't frame unless you're in focus. This may seem silly, but it's a critical issue for macro use, and a big pain when you focus manually as most macro shooters do. The 70-180mm macro lens is much better for shooting macro all day. Breathing isn't an issue for normal use.


http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/105vr.htm

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@mindkiller Ermmm I have not noticed what he called this "great annoyance" that he has with the 105mm.

I move my body to the front and back to get the shot I want. I seldom turn the focus ring when manual focusing.
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i just reach home and check nikon rumor,im very happy to heard there is a AF-S 50mm F1.4 finally!

waiting it for so long for a nikon prime.but what really stuck me is the price,if over RM1.5k,i don't feel like getting it.better opt for siggi 30mm f1.4.
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wowo, 50mm got afs liao~~~

but.....i wan 35mm~~~~ LOL
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QUOTE(project-o @ Sep 3 2008, 10:24 PM)
Good news !! Tamron is upgrading the SP90 macro lens with built in motor.  rclxms.gif 

A macro lens with built in motor for D40/40x/60 finally!!!
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0809/08090205tamron_AF90mm.asp
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Hopefully the price not increase so much... no $ buy 105 VR cry.gif
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usually the price for built-in-motor nikon mount of tamron / sigma lenses won't be much more expensive than the old version, it is around RM100-200 extra. Unless it is HSM from sigma.

Actually we are paying extra for the same thing for that they do for Canon mount, which got a AF motor as well, which I still can't figure out why..

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maybe they gonna come up with something cheaper than 1000D w/o the built in AF motor?
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no no, actually Canon DSLR didn't have the AF-motor in the body, the thing this, they have the motor on the lens. like the 50mm f1.8, they have the motor on the lens, but it is not the USM type of motor.

so, other third party companies like tamron and sigma, whenever they produce a lens for canon, they will put an AF motor inside,

for eg, the tamron SP90mm for canon, the AF motor is already inside,

or the Sigma 70-300mm APO for Canon, the AF motor is already there,
now the newer version Sigma 70-300mm APO for nikon, with AF motor, is RM150 more expensive..



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QUOTE(mindkiller6610 @ Sep 4 2008, 02:10 PM)
no no, actually Canon DSLR didn't have the AF-motor in the body, the thing this, they have the motor on the lens. like the 50mm f1.8, they have the motor on the lens, but it is not the USM type of motor.

so, other third party companies like tamron and sigma, whenever they produce a lens for canon, they will put an AF motor inside,

for eg, the tamron SP90mm for canon, the AF motor is already inside,

or the Sigma 70-300mm APO for Canon, the AF motor is already there,
now the newer version Sigma 70-300mm APO for nikon, with AF motor, is RM150 more expensive..
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blink.gif does that mean canon ALREADY producing non AFmotor body?
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yea.. all this while,

the 300D, 350D,400D,450D,1000D..they are all without AF motor on the body,
try borrow these models from a friend or try at shop, u cant see the AF pin on the mount like u see in D50,D70/s or D80.

not sure about the higher ends model like 30D,40D,5D,1D,1Ds etc.

but to cope with that, Canon launched a large series of EF and EF-S lenses with AF motor on the lenses,
thus that is not really an issue..

but for nikon, they didn't put cheap AF motor into the newer type of lenses last time when d40 released..

now they starting to put SWM into every new lenses, with AF-S prefix, SWM is faster motor, but more expensive.

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cheh...no wonder people say their lenses more exp lol... and its a good thing they produce all with AF motor..then dunnit to worry about compatibility issues and at the same time can cut cost..
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QUOTE(orenzai @ Sep 4 2008, 11:54 PM)
cheh...no wonder people say their lenses more exp lol... and its a good thing they produce all with AF motor..then dunnit to worry about compatibility issues and at the same time can cut cost..
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dats why they keep say "canon lenses are expensive" they adapted this tech 1st.. owhhhhh..
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Ciss, no wonder la. Last time, when I tried to explain what's the difference between AFS lenses to a Canon SLR-using friend of mine, he looked blur only. Haha, turns out his lenses are the same! Lol biggrin.gif
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not all canon lenses are more expensive than nikon,

for eg.
Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II only around RM330
while Nikkor AF-D 50mm f/1.8 cost around RM350-380.

Canon 18-55mm kitlens sells cheaper than Nikon 18-55mm kitlens..

but Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM is more expensive than
Nikon AF-S 70-200mm f/2.8G VR IF-ED

actually it depends..


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QUOTE(mindkiller6610 @ Sep 5 2008, 12:34 AM)
not all canon lenses are more expensive than nikon,

for eg.
Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II only around RM330
while Nikkor AF-D 50mm f/1.8 cost around RM350-380.

Canon 18-55mm kitlens sells cheaper than Nikon 18-55mm kitlens..

but Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM is more expensive than
Nikon AF-S 70-200mm f/2.8G VR IF-ED

actually it depends..
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QUOTE(mindkiller6610 @ Sep 5 2008, 12:34 AM)
not all canon lenses are more expensive than nikon,

for eg.
Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II only around RM330
while Nikkor AF-D 50mm f/1.8 cost around RM350-380.

Canon 18-55mm kitlens sells cheaper than Nikon 18-55mm kitlens..

but Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM is more expensive than
Nikon AF-S 70-200mm f/2.8G VR IF-ED

actually it depends..
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Canon L lenses are very expensive, fyi..
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Canon L lenses are very expensive, fyi..
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Ok, back to D40/x/D60 topic icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Sep 5 2008, 08:00 AM)
I can get Nikkor 50mm at RM 330 also la sleep.gif
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I can get Canon 50mm f1.8 @ RM270 also la tongue.gif
Ok, back to D40/x/D60 topic icon_rolleyes.gif

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Would like to know, what is the best bang for buck for all around AF-S lens for D40/D60 ?

Or budget Macro/Potrait lens ?
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mizi, get a 18-200mm smile.gif 2.5k but if you dun mind changing lenses then get a 55-200..only RM800...

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QUOTE(mizivincible @ Sep 5 2008, 03:28 PM)
Would like to know, what is the best bang for buck for all around AF-S lens for D40/D60 ?

Or budget Macro/Potrait lens ?
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Swt.... to be honest, a prosumer camera with a super 18x zoom lets you do everything in one.

But since you ask, you can get the 18-200mm f3.5-5.6 VR... cover everything from wide angle to telephoto.

If you want a Macro lens that can be used for portrait as well, get the Tamron SP90, now released with built-in AF motor too.
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QUOTE(mizivincible @ Sep 5 2008, 03:28 PM)
Would like to know, what is the best bang for buck for all around AF-S lens for D40/D60 ?

Or budget Macro/Potrait lens ?
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bang for buck = 18-200mm. Everything you need in one neat lil package. Other than fixed aperture of course.

Macro/Portrait would be Tamron SP90 (since ada motor already) or save up for the Nikkor 105mm smile.gif
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QUOTE(zio @ Sep 5 2008, 03:38 PM)
bang for buck = 18-200mm. Everything you need in one neat lil package. Other than fixed aperture of course.

Macro/Portrait would be Tamron SP90 (since ada motor already) or save up for the Nikkor 105mm smile.gif
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ya lor..i said that first tongue.gif
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maybe coz i copied what you guys said? tongue.gif then i go insert the 105mm in it. Hahaha..

Hanoi pictars coming soon! I filter to 100+ already. Now to cut it down somemore.
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Just went through my collection and pulled out this one... fisheye effect to the ultraness... MF on the D40/X/60, but just set to focus infinity and shoot...

Kinda makes my head spin when I see it.... tongue.gif

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I am interested to buy a Nikon D60.

Anybody can recommend where to buy in KL/PJ area?

Lowyat Plaza quoted me RM2k with 2GB sd card, 1 case and 1 tripod.


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QUOTE(darthbaboon @ Sep 5 2008, 04:20 PM)
Just went through my collection and pulled out this one... fisheye effect to the ultraness... MF on the D40/X/60, but just set to focus infinity and shoot...

Kinda makes my head spin when I see it....  tongue.gif

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What's the fisheye lens used?
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Itulah 10.5mm fisheye. I miss my fisheye sad.gif More than my D300 LOL
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the 10.5mm fisheye seems nice lens for d40/x/60

although it cant AF with d40/x/60, according to kenrockwell, ya, this fella again, he say he just put the focus between the infinity and 2m, everything will be in focus.. i thinks it is possible, with a relatively small aperture..

this is under my wishlist too.. lol
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seem like everyone has a piece in the mind about AF-S like me. tongue.gif
why don't nikon answer us!
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they are answering! smile.gif i can see all of the future lenses being AF-S from now on. smile.gifsmile.gif
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hopefully newer AFS prime wouldnt be monsterous size as the sigma 50mm f1.4.......

no more light weight prime ~~~~
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> 1) Nikkor AFS 80-400 mm f/4-5.6 VR II (new design),

> 2) Nikkor AFS 70 200 mm f/2,8 VR II (new design),

> 3) Nikkor AFS DX 16 85 mm f/3,5-5,6 VR II,

> 4) Nikkor AFS 50 mm f/1,4,

> 5) Nikkor AFS 85 mm f/2 VR II,

> 6) Nikkor-Micro AFS 200 mm f/4 VR II,

> 7) PC Nikkor AFS 28 mm f/2,8

here are the list of new af-s lineup from nikon. smile.gif
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> 1) Nikkor AFS 80-400 mm f/4-5.6 VR II (new design),

> 2) Nikkor AFS 70 200 mm f/2,8 VR II (new design),

> 3) Nikkor AFS DX 16 85 mm f/3,5-5,6 VR II,

> 4) Nikkor AFS 50 mm f/1,4,

> 5) Nikkor AFS 85 mm f/2 VR II,

> 6) Nikkor-Micro AFS 200 mm f/4 VR II,

> 7) PC Nikkor AFS 28 mm f/2,8

here are the list of new af-s lineup from nikon. smile.gif
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Just wondering where you get the list and mind to state the source as well ? smile.gif
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dunno if its true tho. read it on a few boards.
got it from http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/602349 and nikonrumours.
and its spread all around.

So for now it's just rumours i guess. but the rumours so far has come out to be true. fingers crossed for these ones too biggrin.gif
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nobody knows..its rumours... out of the 7 lenses stated only 1 came out and its already september biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(orenzai @ Sep 5 2008, 03:36 PM)
mizi, get a 18-200mm smile.gif 2.5k but if you dun mind changing lenses then get a 55-200..only RM800...

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f=106&t=783931
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QUOTE(darthbaboon @ Sep 5 2008, 03:36 PM)
Swt.... to be honest, a prosumer camera with a super 18x zoom lets you do everything in one.

But since you ask, you can get the 18-200mm f3.5-5.6 VR... cover everything from wide angle to telephoto.

If you want a Macro lens that can be used for portrait as well, get the Tamron SP90, now released with built-in AF motor too.
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QUOTE(zio @ Sep 5 2008, 03:38 PM)
bang for buck = 18-200mm. Everything you need in one neat lil package. Other than fixed aperture of course.

Macro/Portrait would be Tamron SP90 (since ada motor already) or save up for the Nikkor 105mm smile.gif
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Sifu sifu sekalian recommend 18-200mm and Tammy SP90. Thanks guys. Starting saving up money blush.gif

And yeah, met Bro Ifer last night, nice guy he is. notworthy.gif

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Can I join the owner list too bro orenzai ? smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif

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wah D60+18-55mm VR ?? thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

the 18-55mm VR is a nice lens.. and the plastic pattern texture matching the with my d40 body..

too bad the SB-600 not built with same textures.. lol..

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Dave Ming Cheng invited me to his planet.. luckily i grab my D40 with me..

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so small that i almost squish them accidentally..

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boss, can share how u take those photos ar?
it seems very interesting~~~ thx smile.gif
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QUOTE(FESEM @ Sep 6 2008, 09:32 AM)
boss, can share how u take those photos ar?
it seems very interesting~~~ thx smile.gif
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Tilt-shift lens perhaps? Hmmm... not sure. Interesting shots though.
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Photoshopped for the tilt-shift effect? smile.gif
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PP effects.. cannot afford T-S lens.. haha

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Wn5vozjrHs

it works better for pics snapped from high area to low area..

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QUOTE(mindkiller6610 @ Sep 6 2008, 03:52 PM)
PP effects.. cannot afford T-S lens.. haha

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Wn5vozjrHs

it works better for pics snapped from high area to low area..
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Like pic number 2. I think that's the best out of all.
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Well, I went to Hanoi and well, I had my 105mm so macro of course!

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wa.. that lalat not moving when u stay close to it ??
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QUOTE(mindkiller6610 @ Sep 6 2008, 07:03 PM)
wa.. that lalat not moving when u stay close to it ??
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it moved after I took 3 shots I think. Guess he was stunned the first time I blinded it with the flash tongue.gif


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Nice Lalat. Delicious, made me hungry.

Anyway, rainy day, still yet to bring out my DSLR around, Im thinking of going to Lookout point in Bukit Ampang there (otw to Ampang from Hulu Langat) and try out night scene of KL tonight.
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u eat lalat ??

btw zio, that lalat is not 1:1 ?? i am planning to get either this 105mm VR or Tamron SP90mm..
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QUOTE(zio @ Sep 6 2008, 07:08 PM)
it moved after I took 3 shots I think. Guess he was stunned the first time I blinded it with the flash tongue.gif
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LOL... very good explanation indeed!

Gone through your uploaded pics and very impressed with how you managed to use the 105 for scenic shots as well. For such a tele range, you definitely composed your shots very well.

As for the macro... dun need to say la... you are the macro sifu... keng as always! notworthy.gif
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nice shots there...you use the DCM's issue tut or some other ones?
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there is a japanese photographer who use a horseman large format camera to do this micro series photos.

he used a helicopter to do his series...

i have forgotten his name. let me go search for it
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nice shots there...you use the DCM's issue tut or some other ones?
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This really looks like fake bokeh after PP leh or really tilt shift lense?
mind to explain how it works? tongue.gif
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Tested Siggy 30mm f1.4 today. But not much poison I'd say as I feel 85mm poison stronger sleep.gif
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QUOTE(mindkiller6610 @ Sep 6 2008, 08:32 PM)
u eat lalat ??

btw zio, that lalat is not 1:1 ?? i am planning to get either this 105mm VR or Tamron SP90mm..
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I believe it is not 1:1. Could have gotten nearer but risk it flying away even faster. I will say test both out and see if the moving parts of the Tamron will bother you or not.

Sharpness wise, both are comparable. But of course 105mm with VR means you can use it to do a lil more.

QUOTE(darthbaboon @ Sep 6 2008, 09:21 PM)
LOL... very good explanation indeed!

Gone through your uploaded pics and very impressed with how you managed to use the 105 for scenic shots as well. For such a tele range, you definitely composed your shots very well.

As for the macro... dun need to say la... you are the macro sifu... keng as always!  notworthy.gif
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Hahaha.. why else would it have stayed on spot? tongue.gif

Thanks for the compliment smile.gif But my macro still need lots of practice leh. As for using the 105mm during the whole trip, it made me think more. Haha cannot simple zoom in and out to shoot.

QUOTE(KTCY @ Sep 6 2008, 11:30 PM)
Tested Siggy 30mm f1.4 today. But not much poison I'd say as I feel 85mm poison stronger sleep.gif
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wahahaha nikkor lens more powderful poison biggrin.gif
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i have posted the tutorial link.. but some of you missed it.. aiyah..
it is a video tutorial..

here it is ..
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Added on September 7, 2008, 3:04 amok, these are not from D40.. but heck.. lol..

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lol..

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QUOTE(KTCY @ Sep 6 2008, 11:30 PM)
Tested Siggy 30mm f1.4 today. But not much poison I'd say as I feel 85mm poison stronger sleep.gif
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Aisey, both lenses serve different purpose. So I guess you tend to shoot portraits more?

Anyway, I love all my lenses - 18-200mm, 10-20mm and 30mm.

Here's street shooting with all 3 lenses:
18-200mm
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QUOTE(ebernie @ Sep 7 2008, 02:21 PM)
Aisey, both lenses serve different purpose. So I guess you tend to shoot portraits more?

Anyway, I love all my lenses - 18-200mm, 10-20mm and 30mm.

Here's street shooting with all 3 lenses:
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This one gets my vote. =D
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QUOTE(zio @ Sep 7 2008, 12:49 AM)
I believe it is not 1:1. Could have gotten nearer but risk it flying away even faster. I will say test both out and see if the moving parts of the Tamron will bother you or not.

Sharpness wise, both are comparable. But of course 105mm with VR means you can use it to do a lil more.
Hahaha.. why else would it have stayed on spot? tongue.gif

Thanks for the compliment smile.gif But my macro still need lots of practice leh. As for using the 105mm during the whole trip, it made me think more. Haha cannot simple zoom in and out to shoot.
wahahaha nikkor lens more powderful poison biggrin.gif
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Nikkor lens color nicer brows.gif

QUOTE(ebernie @ Sep 7 2008, 02:21 PM)
Aisey, both lenses serve different purpose. So I guess you tend to shoot portraits more?

Anyway, I love all my lenses - 18-200mm, 10-20mm and 30mm.

Here's street shooting with all 3 lenses:
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Not that actually but I find it color of 30mm not that nice rclxub.gif
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Siggy tends to be warmer.
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what is the difference in term of picture quality, if

1- use ND filter
2- stack 2 CPL as infinite ND filter

please advice, thx smile.gif
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Cincai shoot @ my condo area blush.gif

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WTA

what is the difference in term of picture quality, if

1- use ND filter
2- stack 2 CPL as infinite ND filter

please advice, thx smile.gif
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depends on the glass quality of the filters

1. it is not recommended to stack filters as image quality will suffer
2. 2 pieces of cpl is more expensive that 1 piece of nd filter
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@KTCY hrmm new lens? biggrin.gif
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@KTCY hrmm new lens? biggrin.gif
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KTCY>> i thought u just pick-up 85mm f1.8......so fast want sell~~~
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Sep 7 2008, 11:09 PM)
That's 85mm la blush.gif
Nope. Not selling. Selling 1 is my friend's unit blush.gif
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Lol cant check exif ma. Very thin DOF. 1.8 or 1.4? smile.gif

Some shots from my latest FRIM outing:

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QUOTE(zio @ Sep 7 2008, 11:23 PM)
Lol cant check exif ma. Very thin DOF. 1.8 or 1.4? smile.gif

Some shots from my latest FRIM outing:

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f1.8 lo blush.gif
Sorry always use the photoshop save for web that's why no EXIF doh.gif

Anyway, nice macro. Like #3 biggrin.gif
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@zio, wow.. seems like u get back ur macro skills with D40..

i like lightning like shot #2, smooth and even,

lightning on #3 for me is abit harsh though.. mind to share ur lightning setup ??
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QUOTE(mindkiller6610 @ Sep 8 2008, 02:53 AM)
@zio, wow.. seems like u get back ur macro skills with D40..

i like lightning like shot #2, smooth and even,

lightning on #3 for me is abit harsh though.. mind to share ur lightning setup ??
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no, i mean lightning...

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Went out to Ampang Lookout point to capture KL night scene, but most of my shot either underexposed or overexposed. Haih. Have to play with shutter speed and aperture more and more. Might post up the pics for sifu sifu sekalian comment.
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QUOTE(mindkiller6610 @ Sep 8 2008, 02:53 AM)
@zio, wow.. seems like u get back ur macro skills with D40..

i like lightning like shot #2, smooth and even,

lightning on #3 for me is abit harsh though.. mind to share ur lightning setup ??
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Thanks smile.gif Err my lighting setup is very simple. Nikon R1C1! biggrin.gif Both positioned on the left and right of the lens.

QUOTE(mizivincible @ Sep 8 2008, 05:05 AM)
Went out to Ampang Lookout point to capture KL night scene, but most of my shot either underexposed or overexposed. Haih. Have to play with shutter speed and aperture more and more. Might post up the pics for sifu sifu sekalian comment.
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Post post! smile.gif Underexposed can still save. Some details will be retained in the dark shadows.
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Hello guys.

I just picked up my D60 last Friday. Been learning to shoot some basic stuff. Hope to come in here and learn more!


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Hello guys.

I just picked up my D60 last Friday. Been learning to shoot some basic stuff. Hope to come in here and learn more!
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i m not shoot makro with the zeiss makro...
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i m using it to cover my mid tele... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(xandman @ Sep 8 2008, 11:52 AM)
i m not shoot makro with the zeiss makro...
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hahahah not MF junkie...
the 105 kinda suck at food shoot...
compared to the 100/2
and also...
its one of the fastest macro available! wink.gif
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and the focusing ring is too sweet to be ignored! drool.gif

boba...wait la...
ok weekend i drop by ur shop...u there on weekends rite? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(xandman @ Sep 8 2008, 12:08 PM)
hahahah not MF junkie...
the 105 kinda suck at food shoot...
compared to the 100/2
and also...
its one of the fastest macro available! wink.gif
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and the focusing ring is too sweet to be ignored! drool.gif

boba...wait la...
ok weekend i drop by ur shop...u there on weekends rite? biggrin.gif
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lol not this weekend. And its with me. tongue.gif not at the shop hahaha

but but.. wouldn't the speed depend on your hands turning the focusing ring? tongue.gif unless you mean f2 hahaha
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ooo ok its wit u...i tot at shop tongue.gif
i din say focusing speed laaa...
i say focusing ring... tongue.gif
the movement is smooth... biggrin.gif
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For people wondering if D40 and 105mm is good enough for a trip:

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zio,

impressive shots with such a combo gear!
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QUOTE(zio @ Sep 8 2008, 02:32 PM)
For people wondering if D40 and 105mm is good enough for a trip:

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zio,

impressive shots with such a combo gear!
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QUOTE(darthbaboon @ Sep 8 2008, 02:44 PM)
Just an observation... Vietnam is always facing east so wouldn't the sun set behind ya towards the mountains instead of over the sea?  hmm.gif
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I sat on the plane on the wrong side twice! When I went there, I wanted to capture rising sun but it was on the other side of the plane. Then when I went home, I wanted to capture the setting sun and again it was on the other side.

Bleh. tongue.gif
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I also want post some photos blush.gif

1 shot only blush.gif Can't remember if I posted this before blush.gif

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zio very nice shots there biggrin.gif
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hey guys.. i tot of buying a telephoto lens for my sis as a gift who is usin a d40 in aus currently..

any recommendations?budget is less than 1k..

� 55-200 mm f/4-5.6G ED AF-S DX
� 55-200 mm f/4-5.6G ED-IF AF-S VR

what is the difference between the above nikkor lenses? just the inclusion of vibration reduction?

and why do they state that its only 3.6x zoom?
isnt it supposed to be somewhere near 11 or something?
coz my sony 18-70mm kit lens states 3.9x zoom...

noob here.. pls help..

p/s: i dun mind 3rd party lenses also..
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The different between that 2 is just between VR and non VR. Price different as well.

3.6x zoom as it took 200 divide by 55 which equivalent to 3.6x zoom

If you take 70 divide by 18 you will get 3.9x zoom smile.gif
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Sep 8 2008, 11:04 PM)
The different between that 2 is just between VR and non VR. Price different as well.

3.6x zoom as it took 200 divide by 55 which equivalent to 3.6x zoom

If you take 70 divide by 18 you will get 3.9x zoom smile.gif
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icic..thx for d prompt reply.. the price difference is quite steep.. one without VR is rm480 whereas with VR is rm780..
is it worth it for a telephoto lens at this price range or are there any better telephoto lenses, which is within 1k of course.......
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Telephoto got a lot. 70-300 VR also consider telephoto.
55-200 actually quite a good lens and VR help in low light condition smile.gif
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get the vr. smile.gif cheapest quality telephoto around.
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QUOTE(motherker @ Sep 8 2008, 11:11 PM)
icic..thx for d prompt reply.. the price difference is quite steep.. one without VR is rm480 whereas with VR is rm780..
is it worth it for a telephoto lens at this price range or are there any better telephoto lenses, which is within 1k of course.......
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u may try look for the Sigma 70-300mm APO Macro, look for the version that with built-in AF motor.
No optical stabilizer like VR, but it is a good lens.. allow u to do 1:2 macro.. with some close up like raynox, u can get 1:1..

price around RM800 too.
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Whats the current market price of Nikon D60?
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Sep 8 2008, 11:20 PM)
Telephoto got a lot. 70-300 VR also consider telephoto.
55-200 actually quite a good lens and VR help in low light condition smile.gif
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also,dont forget the IF,it helps focus fastaa brows.gif
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motherker, 2 days ago I went window shopping at Pavillion Bukit Bintang. There's a camera shop on the ground floor, quite well stocked. I didn't get the name of the shop though. There I saw a Tamron AF 70-300mm lens, selling for RM799. So it's within your budget. Only thing is, I'm not sure it can AF on the D40 or not. Maybe all the sifus here can clarify...and also give their thoughts about this particular lens. You might want to check it out.

If I was in your shoes though, I'd get the Nikkor 55-200 VR. biggrin.gif Easy peasy.

P.S: If I'm not mistaken, the price is also approx RM800...I think hmm.gif

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Whats the current market price of Nikon D60?
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rm1980-rm2000(kit lens) with goodies such as memory card, bag, tripod...
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Wanna ask sifu sekalian regarding night scene shot. Seems like the result wasnt satisfying, altho I shame to upload it here, but I guess its best to ask sifu what's wrong with it.

KL Night Shot -

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the 2nd shot, the flares are caused by your UV filter. remove it. 1st shot is overexposed, to me at least. biggrin.gif

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I dont know why the flares were still there eventho I clean up the filter. Perhaps it was kinda rainy night that causes it ? Owh, IF without the flares, what do you think of the shot ?

Anyway yeah, the second shot is overexposed tho. And thanks for the quick reply.
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QUOTE(mizivincible @ Sep 9 2008, 05:22 AM)
Wanna ask sifu sekalian regarding night scene shot. Seems like the result wasnt satisfying, altho I shame to upload it here, but I guess its best to ask sifu what's wrong with it.

KL Night Shot -

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first shot over exposure, second shot exposure seems correct,

but,

you should have :

1) use the lowest ISO
2) use smaller aperture / big f/number.
3) longer exposure time.
4) remove the UV filter to avoid flares.
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QUOTE(mizivincible @ Sep 9 2008, 05:22 AM)
Wanna ask sifu sekalian regarding night scene shot. Seems like the result wasnt satisfying, altho I shame to upload it here, but I guess its best to ask sifu what's wrong with it.

KL Night Shot -

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may i know the exif settings?
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QUOTE(mizivincible @ Sep 9 2008, 05:22 AM)
Wanna ask sifu sekalian regarding night scene shot. Seems like the result wasnt satisfying, altho I shame to upload it here, but I guess its best to ask sifu what's wrong with it.

KL Night Shot -

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first shot over exposed, 2nd shot aperture too big smile.gif
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Exiff data edited guys.

Taking note all the advices, thank you sifus.
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i suggest u to use lower iso, 100 is better and smaller aperture (f11,f16,f22) and the shutter speed depends on the apeture la to get the proper exposure
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for some reason i like the first shot. the overexpose-ness somehow causes the photograph to have this very uncanny feeling.

the 2nd photo is normal... and that is kinda boring
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our D40 got pre-flashes (flash fires few times) when set to TTL mode ??

i test my bro Sony A200, when flash is set to TTL mode, the flash fires few tmes.. even red eyes turned off.

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QUOTE(razuryza @ Sep 9 2008, 04:19 AM)
rm1980-rm2000(kit lens) with goodies such as memory card, bag, tripod...
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Thank you for the price..where do they sell for this price..cause In foto shangri-la they sell it for 2150 with a tripod,bag and 2gb memory card.

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QUOTE(mindkiller6610 @ Sep 9 2008, 10:31 AM)
our D40 got pre-flashes (flash fires few times) when set to TTL mode ??

i test my bro Sony A200, when flash is set to TTL mode, the flash fires few tmes.. even red eyes turned off.
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mizivincible, lower the ISO to 200 n use smaller apeture for long exposure.. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(mizivincible @ Sep 9 2008, 05:22 AM)
Wanna ask sifu sekalian regarding night scene shot. Seems like the result wasnt satisfying, altho I shame to upload it here, but I guess its best to ask sifu what's wrong with it.

KL Night Shot -

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lower iso.. and try to use tripod.. for btter picture.. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(ifer @ Sep 9 2008, 08:58 AM)
for some reason i like the first shot. the overexpose-ness somehow causes the photograph to have this very uncanny feeling.

the 2nd photo is normal... and that is kinda boring
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Haha, yes..I totally agree with u! Actually, when I first saw shot #1, I said, hey this is kinda nice...something about the sky and the city lights...macam surreal. smile.gif

The 2nd shot, if without the flares, is ok la, looks normal. smile.gif Keep it up mizi! And u need to REMOVE the filter totally, not just clean it. biggrin.gif
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*clicks on the spoiler to have a 2nd look at that photo* nope...the overexposedness is quite distracting to me...well thats my opinion lar smile.gif
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QUOTE(mindkiller6610 @ Sep 3 2008, 10:34 PM)
Just to revisit this by mindkiller. I tried the lens out at FRIM, and yes, it does have the problem mentioned. The composition changes as you turn the focus ring.
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Ok taking note. I'll try with different settings and yes, I did use tripod for all the shots. Will try with lower ISO, slower shutter speed and smaller aperture. Thanks alot guys. Anyway, when will the filter come in handy ? During night shot I really have to remove the filter ?
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the uv filter doesn't do anything really. most people only use it to protect the lens from scratches.
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UV filter in digital era is used for protecting the lens..so should always be fixed on...
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Except for shots in low light conditions I think...cuz I get flares too with my UV filter on, in low light. it's either remove it or use a better one, like a CPL filter (I might be mistaken biggrin.gif)
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yup...a better filter will be thinner thus reducing the chances of flare... if you wan optimum results then of cuz take off yr filter lar but not really necessary in most of the cases...
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does the flare happens with all UV filters or just higher chances of catching flares on cheapo filters? I have a HOYA Pro1 Digital UV filter and yet to experience flare with it.
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QUOTE(edministrator @ Sep 9 2008, 09:40 PM)
does the flare happens with all UV filters or just higher chances of catching flares on cheapo filters? I have a HOYA Pro1 Digital UV filter and yet to experience flare with it.
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UV can affect meh ? i thought about it also
but i lazy until until leave both the UV and CPL filter on all the time
maybe because i m lazy and got this shot, but i think its still alright i guess

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Low shuttle and low ISO is a must lor

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QUOTE(zio @ Sep 9 2008, 05:09 PM)
Just to revisit this by mindkiller. I tried the lens out at FRIM, and yes, it does have the problem mentioned. The composition changes as you turn the focus ring.
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does it really affect the compo much ??
i guess can just fix that by cropping in PP after that..

QUOTE(mindkiller6610 @ Sep 9 2008, 10:31 AM)
our D40 got pre-flashes (flash fires few times) when set to TTL mode ??

i test my bro Sony A200, when flash is set to TTL mode, the flash fires few tmes.. even red eyes turned off.
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and answering my own question,

D40 does have TTL monitor preflash, it is fast and only flashes once..

to try it.. set your flash mode to TLL and REAR,
set your shutter speed to 1 second or longer..
and shoot, u notice that it flashes 1 time at the beginning of the exposure (that's the preflash),
and flashes again at the end of the exposure(that's the REAR flash)..

when u change the flash power to Manual and REAR, it only flashes one time at the end of the exposure..

comparing to my bro's Sony A200, it flashes 2 times before the real flash kicks in..
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taking off UV filters when shooting at nights (with lots of lights) is just a rule of thumb.. not necessary it will create flares.. but if u see it.. just try taking it off..

i remember i didn't remove the UV filter too when i took this pic..

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QUOTE(maxh3h3 @ Sep 9 2008, 10:35 PM)
UV can affect meh ? i thought about it also
but i lazy until until leave both the UV and CPL filter on all the time
maybe because i m lazy and got this shot, but i think its still alright i guess

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Low shuttle and low ISO is a must lor

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i saw a flare in the first picture, it is from the bright windows i guess..and can be easily PP out..

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QUOTE(edministrator @ Sep 9 2008, 09:40 PM)
does the flare happens with all UV filters or just higher chances of catching flares on cheapo filters? I have a HOYA Pro1 Digital UV filter and yet to experience flare with it.
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higher chance... smile.gif because the thicker the filter means that there is another thicker layer of glass that light has to go through... i tried a really cheapo uv filter which cost rm30 and almost all the shots got flare/reflection doh.gif
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now i dont bother using filters for my shooting. i dont care if it is a b+w or a heliopan or a singhray.

i will never use UV filter anymore

they are a piece of joke
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QUOTE(mindkiller6610 @ Sep 10 2008, 05:58 AM)
does it really affect the compo much ??
i guess can just fix that by cropping in PP after that..
and answering my own question,

D40 does have TTL monitor preflash, it is fast and only flashes once..

to try it.. set your flash mode to TLL and REAR,
set your shutter speed to 1 second or longer..
and shoot, u notice that it flashes 1 time at the beginning of the exposure (that's the preflash),
and flashes again at the end of the exposure(that's the REAR flash)..

when u change the flash power to Manual and REAR, it only flashes one time at the end of the exposure..

comparing to my bro's Sony A200, it flashes 2 times before the real flash kicks in..
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Nope, it doesn't really affect the composition. And you can probably adjust it as you turn the focus ring. I don't find that a problem. I don't know but Mr Rockwell tends to nitpick on things.

QUOTE(ifer @ Sep 10 2008, 08:39 AM)
now i dont bother using filters for my shooting. i dont care if it is a b+w or a heliopan or a singhray.

i will never use UV filter anymore

they are a piece of joke
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See, ifer's philosophy affected me. I dont use UV filter as well tongue.gif

Anyway...

I went to Hanoi for my company trip and well, street shoot opportunity aplenty. I am going to chronicle Day 1, 3 and 4 of my trip with Day 2 being the Halong Bay series up in the Travel section. I will limit myself to 10 photos of each day to bring you the Hanoi flavour, hopefully.

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TTL, by nature, fire pre-flashes. First flash to judge exposure, then the 2nd flash comes after the camera has got exposure information from the first flash. On all cameras, TTL flash will work that way. Setting your flash to REAR, has got nothing to do with this.

If you set the flash to manual, then obviously it's no longer TTL flash. You are telling the camera to how powerful the flash is going to be, hence no pre-flash to get exposure information.
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anyone had tried close up filter before?
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QUOTE(zio @ Sep 10 2008, 12:31 PM)
Nope, it doesn't really affect the composition. And you can probably adjust it as you turn the focus ring. I don't find that a problem. I don't know but Mr Rockwell tends to nitpick on things.
See, ifer's philosophy affected me. I dont use UV filter as well tongue.gif

Anyway...

I went to Hanoi for my company trip and well, street shoot opportunity aplenty. I am going to chronicle Day 1, 3 and 4 of my trip with Day 2 being the Halong Bay series up in the Travel section. I will limit myself to 10 photos of each day to bring you the Hanoi flavour, hopefully.

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nice series of photos.. really makes me understand their lifestyles more.. thumbup.gif

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TTL, by nature, fire pre-flashes. First flash to judge exposure, then the 2nd flash comes after the camera has got exposure information from the first flash. On all cameras, TTL flash will work that way. Setting your flash to REAR, has got nothing to do with this.

If you set the flash to manual, then obviously it's no longer TTL flash. You are telling the camera to how powerful the flash is going to be, hence no pre-flash to get exposure information.
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i see, but my bro's Sony A200 has more pre-flashes.. 2 times before the last one get expose if I am not mistaken..

I set it to REAR so that i can see the pre-flash in action, it is too fast in normal flash mode for me to see..

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QUOTE(mindkiller6610 @ Sep 10 2008, 01:36 PM)
nice series of photos.. really makes me understand their lifestyles more.. thumbup.gif
i see, but my bro's Sony A200 has more pre-flashes.. 2 times before the last one get expose if I am not mistaken..

I set it to REAR so that i can see the pre-flash in action, it is too fast in normal flash mode for me to see..
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Canon dSLR also has that 2 times pre-flashes smile.gif
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QUOTE(shiinkuro31 @ Sep 10 2008, 01:19 PM)
anyone had tried close up filter before?
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I did, long long time ago. +4 close-up. Why?

QUOTE(mindkiller6610 @ Sep 10 2008, 01:36 PM)
nice series of photos.. really makes me understand their lifestyles more.. thumbup.gif
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Hello all, a quick question.

I snapped pictures at FINE quality so the average jpeg file will be around 4mb. What programs do you guys use to resize the photo without much loss of the quality of the photo? I tried some programs and suffered a lot of image quality loss.


Edit: And I most are using FLICKR as a online storage. Any reason for that? I'm currently using photobucket as it gives more space and has direct image HTML link which is a lot easier for me to post on my blog.

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I use Flickr mainly because its easy to use, and it has a great community of fantastic photographers smile.gif

As for resizing the pics, well Flickr does that automatically as well! tongue.gif
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QUOTE(zio @ Sep 10 2008, 03:15 PM)
I use Flickr mainly because its easy to use, and it has a great community of fantastic photographers smile.gif

As for resizing the pics, well Flickr does that automatically as well! tongue.gif
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Thanks for quick reply. But as far as I know, Flickr only has 100mb free storage. And 4mb per file takes a little too long to upload.

Anyone uses other methods?
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if u want to upload faster..
then juz save it ot ur own server la.
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QUOTE(kenlimfornication @ Sep 10 2008, 03:26 PM)
Thanks for quick reply. But as far as I know, Flickr only has 100mb free storage. And 4mb per file takes a little too long to upload.

Anyone uses other methods?
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Guys..how much is D60?planning to buy it for Hari Raya maybe..and recommend me some shops around KL wink.gif
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QUOTE(Firdaus92 @ Sep 10 2008, 04:22 PM)
Guys..how much is D60?planning to buy it for Hari Raya maybe..and recommend me some shops around KL wink.gif
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Consider the D80 + 18-55 kit lens (or 18-70 if budget allows) + a 50mm f1.8

Much longer lifespan then spending on the D60. D60 will cost your 2k++.
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QUOTE(zio @ Sep 10 2008, 02:24 PM)
I did, long long time ago. +4 close-up. Why?
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any that i can refer? sumhow snap bride make up, but i think is not worth it to buy macro lens just for that purpose... n how much?
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QUOTE(ebernie @ Sep 10 2008, 04:25 PM)
Consider the D80 + 18-55 kit lens (or 18-70 if budget allows) + a 50mm f1.8

Much longer lifespan then spending on the D60. D60 will cost your 2k++.
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How much will D80 cost now?
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QUOTE(shiinkuro31 @ Sep 10 2008, 04:29 PM)
any that i can refer? sumhow snap bride make up, but i think is not worth it to buy macro lens just for that purpose... n how much?
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Ermmm I can't remember but it was below RM100 I believe. Unfortunately I don't have any samples. Lol can't figure out which photo used the +4 filter.
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QUOTE(shiinkuro31 @ Sep 10 2008, 04:29 PM)
any that i can refer? sumhow snap bride make up, but i think is not worth it to buy macro lens just for that purpose... n how much?
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juz get a 60mm macro...
so u get macro...
and a 'normal' lense... =)
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Day 2 of Hanoi!

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After this, it was off to Halong Bay. My next post will be Hanoi Day 3 smile.gif
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QUOTE(ebernie @ Sep 10 2008, 04:25 PM)
Consider the D80 + 18-55 kit lens (or 18-70 if budget allows) + a 50mm f1.8

Much longer lifespan then spending on the D60. D60 will cost your 2k++.
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D80 kit is 18-135 not 18-55.

QUOTE(Saravanan07 @ Sep 10 2008, 04:34 PM)
How much will D80 cost now?
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D80 body only RM 2,500+-
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Sep 10 2008, 06:10 PM)
D80 kit is 18-135 not 18-55.
D80 body only RM 2,500+-
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See alot of newly d80 owner selling their kits to aim for d90

should be a good time for cheap upgrades or newbie to start dslr with a d80

Price of D80 is going to be interesting right?

nevermind d300, d90 is good liao for everyone especcially me icon_rolleyes.gif


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zio...those are really nice photos there smile.gif
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wow zio, they allow tourist to photograph inside the handicraft centre? nice pics!
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grat pics zio! lovely nikon colors. Your shots make me proud to be nikon user brows.gif.
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Sep 10 2008, 06:10 PM)
D80 kit is 18-135 not 18-55.
D80 body only RM 2,500+-
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I meant body only + a cheap kit-lens. If you get the body + 18-135 it'll be quite a jump from the D60. I say a 2nd hand body with warrant about 2.1k + about 300 ringgit for a 18-55 should do it. Add a 50mm 1.8 for another 300 and that's a pretty nice setup already.
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QUOTE(orenzai @ Sep 10 2008, 09:21 PM)
zio...those are really nice photos there smile.gif
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QUOTE(garyeow @ Sep 10 2008, 11:20 PM)
wow zio, they allow tourist to photograph inside the handicraft centre? nice pics!
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Actually there were signs that says "No camera, no photo" but my guide said can. Confused me but when I started snapping them doing work, no one stopped me. But you can't photograph the final products.

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grat pics zio! lovely nikon colors. Your shots make me proud to be nikon user brows.gif.
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Terima kasih smile.gif
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QUOTE(zio @ Sep 10 2008, 04:39 PM)
Ermmm I can't remember but it was below RM100 I believe. Unfortunately I don't have any samples. Lol can't figure out which photo used the +4 filter.
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owh, thanks..

QUOTE(xandman @ Sep 10 2008, 04:40 PM)
juz get a 60mm macro...
so u get macro...
and a 'normal' lense... =)
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sigma 70-200 2.8.. brows.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(ebernie @ Sep 11 2008, 01:18 AM)
I meant body only + a cheap kit-lens. If you get the body + 18-135 it'll be quite a jump from the D60. I say a 2nd hand body with warrant about 2.1k + about 300 ringgit for a 18-55 should do it. Add a 50mm 1.8 for another 300 and that's a pretty nice setup already.
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Sorry as your previous post mislead my understanding blush.gif

QUOTE(shiinkuro31 @ Sep 11 2008, 12:35 PM)
owh, thanks..
sigma 70-200 2.8..  brows.gif  brows.gif
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Trust me. If you ever play Nikkor 70-200, you won't really want to touch other 3rd party 70-200 laugh.gif
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QUOTE(shiinkuro31 @ Sep 11 2008, 12:35 PM)
owh, thanks..
sigma 70-200 2.8..  brows.gif  brows.gif
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thats crap bro...
compared to nikon...srsly...
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It's far from crap. You guys underestimate 3rd party too much. Not all people are bloody rich as you.
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yeah i know...
it's nearer to C-R-A-P.

rich, i m not. fussy, yes.
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VR really an important thing when at 150mm and above. Besides, during low light as well smile.gif
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QUOTE(xandman @ Sep 11 2008, 01:29 PM)
yeah i know...
it's nearer to C-R-A-P.

rich, i m not. fussy, yes.
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Yeah yeah... you view edge sharpness of pictures at 100% the whole time... It's more like for pride really.
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I was wondering is it safe to upgrade my D40 firmware? any users here have upgrade their firmware and what's the difference in application? Appreciate the info.
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upgrading firmware is always safe if you follow the instructions and don't do stupid things such as turning it off or plugging the usb slot in or take the memory card out. download, copy, install, wait, complete. easy peasy. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Joseph Hahn @ Sep 11 2008, 05:23 PM)
Yeah yeah... you view edge sharpness of pictures at 100% the whole time... It's more like for pride really.
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if u must know...
i print my shots on 8R and above for the good ones...
so yeah i need sharpness from center to edge...

y do i even bother explaining to u...
after all...it's my money....
i buy wat I like...
for watever reason....
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QUOTE(xandman @ Sep 11 2008, 06:21 PM)
if u must know...
i print my shots on 8R and above for the good ones...
so yeah i need sharpness from center to edge...

y do i even bother explaining to u...
after all...it's my money....
i buy wat I like...
for watever reason....
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i agree
my thumbprint is actually 8R and my work print is 11R
my exhibition print is 32R

so a lens performance is super important to me
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Guys, let's lay off the gear wars.

I wonder though, if sharpness is the only way to show good picture is, then that tells me a lot about it. Sharpness only says that the gear is good, nothing about the photog or the pic.

Another point to remember, a lot of ground breaking shots were taken back in the 60s & 70s. Those were not pin-sharp. If anything, they are noisy and blurry but their other qualities outshone these issues.

But I guess everyone has their own opinion about photography.
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QUOTE(ebernie @ Sep 11 2008, 08:44 PM)
Guys, let's lay off the gear wars.

I wonder though, if sharpness is the only way to show good picture is, then that tells me a lot about it. Sharpness only says that the gear is good, nothing about the photog or the pic.

Another point to remember, a lot of ground breaking shots were taken back in the 60s & 70s. Those were not pin-sharp. If anything, they are noisy and blurry but their other qualities outshone these issues.

But I guess everyone has their own opinion about photography.
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Sep 11 2008, 08:31 PM)
Tested something tongue.gif

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triggered with built in flash ??
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triggered with built in flash ??
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laugh.gif You the one who notice it blush.gif
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Sep 11 2008, 09:53 PM)
laugh.gif You the one who notice it blush.gif
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hmm, D40 can trigger flash mer? weird weird smile.gif~~~
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SB800 can.. SB600 cannot..

oh ya.. SB900 also can.. haha
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Sep 11 2008, 10:04 PM)
Why can't whistling.gif
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d40 inside got build in commander mode!!!???

how?? teachh!! tongue.gif
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d40 inside got build in commander mode!!!???

how?? teachh!!  tongue.gif
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Pop up your flash, set the flash to remote then once you press the shutter and flash, the flash will also flash blush.gif
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QUOTE(ebernie @ Sep 11 2008, 08:44 PM)
Guys, let's lay off the gear wars.

I wonder though, if sharpness is the only way to show good picture is, then that tells me a lot about it. Sharpness only says that the gear is good, nothing about the photog or the pic.

Another point to remember, a lot of ground breaking shots were taken back in the 60s & 70s. Those were not pin-sharp. If anything, they are noisy and blurry but their other qualities outshone these issues.

But I guess everyone has their own opinion about photography.
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because these photographers do not have what we have today?

another thing, what are the qualities of those photographs that actually outshine?
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Sep 11 2008, 10:25 PM)
Pop up your flash, set the flash to remote then once you press the shutter and flash, the flash will also flash blush.gif
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i try 1st hehehe.
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QUOTE(Darkcursed @ Sep 11 2008, 10:36 PM)
i try 1st hehehe.
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Only applicable on SB-800 and above.
Nissin flash also can blush.gif
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Sep 11 2008, 10:38 PM)
Only applicable on SB-800 and above.
Nissin flash also can blush.gif
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im trying with my d40 leh,cannot.
already choose remote,the melody sign 1.

i thought u have to set channel,group then only can?


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What flash you using ?
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Sep 11 2008, 10:42 PM)
What flash you using ?
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sb800
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Can la. You choose SU-4 pr something than you pop up your flash then it will automatic trigger already blush.gif

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QUOTE(KTCY @ Sep 11 2008, 10:48 PM)
Can la. You choose SU-4 pr something than you pop up your flash then it will automatic trigger already blush.gif
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omg it works!i love it!

thanks! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

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It works but not easy to control the flash from camera as well as SB-800
Sometimes, it will too harsh sad.gif
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had a little try just now,is nice!!

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i just notice that it will auto detect any light around 1,i was in my own room and i open light,it will auto fire also tongue.gif
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post Sep 11 2008, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(ifer @ Sep 11 2008, 10:32 PM)
because these photographers do not have what we have today?

another thing, what are the qualities of those photographs that actually outshine?
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Well, yeah, they didn't have what we have today. But it still does not change the fact that the photos looks much better than what we churn out by the dozens everyday.

What's better? Frankly, I think it's the attention to detail, the thought that is put into each photo, the planning that goes into each of them. Sometimes it's the fact that they were brave enough to be there to take pictures (world war pictures for example). But ultimately I think it was because each photo had a story to tell, and they told the story really well. But really, I can't do justice explaining the pictures. Heck, I can't even remember the names of all the photographers I think highly off.

They definitely did not:
1. Keep on snapping pictures of girls
2. Keep on showing off the lens' bokeh by shooting mundane stuff
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post Sep 11 2008, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(Darkcursed @ Sep 11 2008, 11:41 PM)
had a little try just now,is nice!!
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i just notice that it will auto detect any light around 1,i was in my own room and i open light,it will auto fire also  tongue.gif
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Too harsh for photo 2 smile.gif
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post Sep 12 2008, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(ebernie @ Sep 11 2008, 11:50 PM)
Well, yeah, they didn't have what we have today. But it still does not change the fact that the photos looks much better than what we churn out by the dozens everyday.

What's better? Frankly, I think it's the attention to detail, the thought that is put into each photo, the planning that goes into each of them. Sometimes it's the fact that they were brave enough to be there to take pictures (world war pictures for example). But ultimately I think it was because each photo had a story to tell, and they told the story really well. But really, I can't do justice explaining the pictures. Heck, I can't even remember the names of all the photographers I think highly off.

They definitely did not:
1. Keep on snapping pictures of girls
2. Keep on showing off the lens' bokeh by shooting mundane stuff
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to simplify it:

"technology has spoilt us"

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QUOTE(ebernie @ Sep 11 2008, 11:50 PM)
Well, yeah, they didn't have what we have today. But it still does not change the fact that the photos looks much better than what we churn out by the dozens everyday.

What's better? Frankly, I think it's the attention to detail, the thought that is put into each photo, the planning that goes into each of them. Sometimes it's the fact that they were brave enough to be there to take pictures (world war pictures for example). But ultimately I think it was because each photo had a story to tell, and they told the story really well. But really, I can't do justice explaining the pictures. Heck, I can't even remember the names of all the photographers I think highly off.

They definitely did not:
1. Keep on snapping pictures of girls
2. Keep on showing off the lens' bokeh by shooting mundane stuff
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yeps can't have enough of that around. *pukes*
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Girls? Oh noes, I have a girl photo tongue.gif

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post Sep 12 2008, 02:25 AM

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as always, those are excellent pictures zio smile.gif
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hoho!! good catch on the little girl and overall your photos are thumbup.gif
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post Sep 12 2008, 08:38 AM

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QUOTE(ebernie @ Sep 11 2008, 11:50 PM)
Well, yeah, they didn't have what we have today. But it still does not change the fact that the photos looks much better than what we churn out by the dozens everyday.

What's better? Frankly, I think it's the attention to detail, the thought that is put into each photo, the planning that goes into each of them. Sometimes it's the fact that they were brave enough to be there to take pictures (world war pictures for example). But ultimately I think it was because each photo had a story to tell, and they told the story really well. But really, I can't do justice explaining the pictures. Heck, I can't even remember the names of all the photographers I think highly off.

They definitely did not:
1. Keep on snapping pictures of girls
2. Keep on showing off the lens' bokeh by shooting mundane stuff
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wait,
are you comparing robert kapa's works with your works or with anyone of the forummers here on lyn?

why don't you compare kapa's works with today's world press award winners' works?
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QUOTE(ebernie @ Sep 11 2008, 11:50 PM)
Well, yeah, they didn't have what we have today. But it still does not change the fact that the photos looks much better than what we churn out by the dozens everyday.

What's better? Frankly, I think it's the attention to detail, the thought that is put into each photo, the planning that goes into each of them. Sometimes it's the fact that they were brave enough to be there to take pictures (world war pictures for example). But ultimately I think it was because each photo had a story to tell, and they told the story really well. But really, I can't do justice explaining the pictures. Heck, I can't even remember the names of all the photographers I think highly off.
It's not really a fair comparison there.

Firstly, if you were a photographer *then*, it meant that your career somehow revolved around photography. Cameras were expensive and not widespread then. Cameras are so affordable *now* and having a DSLR camera in your hand *now* doesn't mean that you are a career photographer.

Secondly, you are comparing works of career photographers *then* to amaturish works that are all over *now*, for example to those posted in this forum. A right approach would be to compare what career photographers took *then* to what professional career photographers take *now*, not with LYN photographers. Who says career photographers *now* don't travel the world - to the furthest regions of the antartica, to the war torn African countries... you see those pictures still, just don't expect to find them here unless there's a Thom Hogan hiding among us somewhere. tongue.gif

Anyway, don't be so critical of LYN photogs. Even the photos we see in newspapers nowadays are crap, but they serve their purpose as an illustration. At the end of the day, everyone shoots what he/she enjoys.

Don't put a stigma that "shooting photos of models/girls are wrong"... look at shinchan and lotso's works - they shoot good model photos and are really out to improve their craft.


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Please la. Why keep on continue the topic. Shouldn't it be D40/x/D60 discussion ? It's way way out of the discussion already sleep.gif doh.gif
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No, I am not comparing the work of career photogs of the past with the current ones. They are about the same in quality. Obviously the current pics are mostly in color and they are sharper, but seriously, sharpness and color rarely come into play when judging a picture, so long as it's not too blurry until I can't make anything out of it.

And I know better than to judge any photogs. Especially ones that do not do it for a living. But if I did, flickr has plenty of examples of ppl not doing this thing at work but produce mind blowing pics.

I guess my initial post was a reflection of how frustrated I am when some keeps on posting about gear. D3s and 70-200VRs are nice and all, but they don't make good pics.

I bet if I gave 'zio' another 105mm lens, he'd be able to produce good photos. Heck, his photos are compressed and resized already but because of how he captured emotions and told stories, generally I think his series has been the better works shown here. They definitely don't have to be pin-sharp.

Sorry for the last post. Back to the regular D40 channel from my side now tongue.gif
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No more off topic after my post can ? blush.gif

A photos to share biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(KTCY @ Sep 11 2008, 08:31 PM)
Tested something tongue.gif

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drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif

im soooo gonna get a sb800 ! ! ! btw guys, do ya think its better to get a sb800/sb900 ?..
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QUOTE(kanz1986 @ Sep 12 2008, 09:22 AM)
drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif

im soooo gonna get a sb800 ! ! ! btw guys, do ya think its better to get a sb800/sb900 ?..
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If you have the budget and know how to fully utilize the functions and features of the SB-900, of course go for it! Just don't buy the SB-900 and use it as a self-defense weapon.

Hmmm... it actually might work... blinding the pursuers or potential burglars! tongue.gif
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QUOTE(kanz1986 @ Sep 12 2008, 09:22 AM)
drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif

im soooo gonna get a sb800 ! ! ! btw guys, do ya think its better to get a sb800/sb900 ?..
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Reason I don't get SB-900 is Sb-800 smaller but more powerful compare to SB-900. Tested and proven. Even the shop fellow told me so.
Besides Sb-900 get overheated quite easily smile.gif

Another photo to share. Playing with effect again.

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