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 PROTON SAVVY LYN club V2 - AMT manual added!, -best little car in the market-

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post Jun 19 2008, 11:40 PM, updated 17y ago

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Nmae, variant, transmission, colour, year registered, mileage, extra info
1. Benjamin1213, M-Line, Manual, Tranquality Black, Aug07, 2000KM as of Nov07
2. iman_210, M-Line, AMT, Tranquility Black, Sep06, 9000KM as of Nov07,*R3 Exhaust
3. gary_cheah85, M-Line, AMT, Apple green?, April06, 14200KM as of Nov07
4. Ripp87,Manual,Tranquality Black,Aug06, 22249KM as of Nov07
5. evoHahn, manual, silver,October 06, 25K km as of NOv07
6. zaqre, Manual, Blue, November 2005, 30k km as of Nov07
7 hypermount, oldline, manual, Dec05, 51000km as of Nov07
8. h_bib, M-Line, Manual, Apple Green, Jan07 , 33000KM as of Nov07,Zero Kit..
9. shikamaru5314
10.[ r u g a ]
11. blackorange
12. ApeKG
13. affiqzakie
14. toshio14
15. yoloko
16.death_nite
17.nizam80, Manual, Tranquility Black, Oct'05, 19200KM as of May'08.
18.mutt
19.khairi771117
20.Fitri@pitt,M-line-MT,Blue,Nov 2005,As of 6June,27000km
21.raynman M-Line AMT 2007
22.recojr
23.tesla_rage
24.edgeff
25.Mido_Ban
26.khan
27.kickurs2
28.Raynman
29.mdg
30.lazogirlz
31.lj0000
32.savoc_am
33.chinorot
34.zurggie
35.mosh
36.davidmu, M-line MT, black with bodykit, 10km as Sept08
37.ronaldpan
38.Thunder_Bolt
39.Junyen MT, black, Oct08, 1500km as Nov08
40.Syifa
41.deodorant
42.cybersonic23 MT, black, 2005, 35000km
43.danhong81
44.jcalex89
45.gaarared
46.padisawah
47.Chartry
48.mhn21
49.Yzarc
50.irenechong85
51.maxking85
52.dantck
52.nadiah_g
53.hazremi
54.aku_ker
55.Matrix
56.neurra
57.briggs86
58.kaoru himura "kuroneko"
59.elfen_lied 84000 km rclxms.gif
60.azzurious_rs
61.gempakstarz
62.flying-liao
63.davidhuang

Please PM me your name for listing! thanks

Common issues and solutions

1. Ignition coil cable - crack or hole near the end of boot causing leakage.
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2. Dirty TDC sensor - 2nd gear jerks at low RPM, hard to start.
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Savvy D4F engine repair manual
Pls Find the attachment
Attached File  MRMOTD4.PDF ( 1.14mb ) Number of downloads: 7083


Manual Gearbox repair manual/JBx (Both savvy AMT and MT: JB1)
Attached File  JBxgearboxes.pdf ( 769.54k ) Number of downloads: 4406


Quickshift 5/AMT (JH1)
Attached File  sav004_Special_notes_for_Clio_II_Sequential_gearbox.pdf ( 421.21k ) Number of downloads: 5305
PASSWORD: savvy4

Wiring Diagram
Attached File  sav002_wiring_diagram.pdf ( 237.5k ) Number of downloads: 5667
PASSWORD:savvy2



much Credit to SAVOC NRU ( for complete manual) Northern Region United
http://ww.savocnru.net

http://www.savocnru.net/v1/downloads.php?cat_id=1




Spare parts Price

http://www.motortrader.com.my/asp/forum/to...?TOPIC_ID=26019

SAVVY fuel consumption
http://www.motortrader.com.my/asp/forum/to...?TOPIC_ID=15337

Savvy NGV

http://www.savoc.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t...=asc&highlight=

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Savvy LPG from Thailand
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DIY water injection system on Savvy

http://www.savoc.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t...der=asc&start=0


Thai King's Savvy.

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Electric-powered Savvy , e-Savvy.

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Savvy Worldwide

Thailand
http://www.protonclub.net/forum/index.php?showforum=10

http://www.loveproton.com/

Taiwan
http://www.pncl.com.tw/index.php/component...id,2/board,26.0


Continuation from V1
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/287331


Savvy 73WHP / around 85-90BHP - only intake and exhaust modded.



Taken from Savoc.net

QUOTE
Just to share... when the Article from DRIVEN Magazine Issue 05 Page 73 praised Savvy about its R&H and being posted on AW forum by forummer, Savvy being bashed upside down by bashers (as usual lah) regarding the integrity of the Author. The Author from the DRIVEN magazine later counter post to clear the air (copy & paste from AW)  

During the flag off for the Speedball which was at around 10am we were
presented with some administration problems from our office. 3 guys had
to stay behind. That was I, the photographer and Jeff. We all had our
allocated seats in a nice Perdana and a Mercedes E280. By around 1 pm our
admin problems were not sorted out yet and we were further delayed cos it
was lunch time. So the other participants from the other two cars had to
leave. By this time most of the participants were already having their
lunch in the Gopeng/Kampar area.

By around 3pm I had to let Jeff go since he was also our event co-
ordinator. But there were no cars left. And the paper work on his 4x4 was
not sorted out let alone fit to run in this event. Without thinking we
had to borrow 2 cars from Proton Berhad since they were the Emergency and
Technical support. We had asked for a Perdana V6, the thought of driving
a Savvy for 2400+km, man that's crazy! So can you imagine our reactions
when they presented us with a Savvy? Our disappointment was obvious and I
had objected to the idea of driving 3 buff guys in a little car for
2400km. So for consolation they gave us 2 Savvys.

Not wasting anymore time Jeff proceeded leaving me and the photographer.

Were we bought up? No. As a new magazine we do not get much priviledge
from manufacturers. And if we were bought up they would have given in to
our request which was a V6 that we wanted.

Why would anyone stay back till 7.30pm to drive to Bukit Kayu Hitam?
Again our admin problems were not sorted untill around 7pm. It is 456km
from KL to Bukit Kayu Hitam speed around 110-120km/h, add 2 stops for
petrol and pee 15 mins each that will take us roughly 5 1/2 hours to
reach. So latest we had to leave by 6pm. The border closes at 12am and
only reopens at 6am. If we had miss that the rest of the participants
would be 10 hours ahead of us. Which we would have missed the event and
not get our story which we had been working on for months. But we could
only leave at 7.30pm. If I remembered correctly by the time we passed
NKVE Damansara it was 7.40pm.

Pedal-to-the-metal. Yes I admit to speeding. Don't we all once in a
while. So be it and send me the summons, I will take full responsibility.

Prior to all that I think the abundance of adrenaline came from the Big
Mac, large fries large coke and a Power Root while we were sorting out
our paper work. Hey I'm not blaming our diet for speeding but if you had
taken that amount of fat and sugar it will take give you the same buzz
too.

So while we were trying to burn all that we were V-maxing at around 140-
150km/h. It was on a normal Thursday so traffic was low, so occasionally
we had an open highway to ourselves. We pushed our speed up after Rawang.
And we were flat out in the poor little car. It was a MT. I thought we
were going to blow the gear box the way we were shifting. But the car
kept going.

We had our driving lights on so slower traffic were curtious to us and
moved left almost immediately. When approaching traffic we did slow to
120km/h and when clear we let rip to 170km/h. There were cars who
would 'run' with us for no apparent reason but we just stayed at 170 for
a long period of time. And either they could not be bothered to keep up
with us of got tired of the speed they dropped off. All this speed we had
to have petol stops. We had 2 stops. One after the second toll after Ipoh
and the other just before Alor Star. Each stop took about 5 minutes not
more. We did hold off the pee, well we took turns. One would pump and
other pee. We wasted no time. And we were using Smart Tag so it helped a
lot.

When we did our second petrol stop before Alor Star it was around,
hmm...11pm (don't hold it against me guys I will check our receipts,
still have it). I thought we weren't going to make it and thought it
would have been a wasted trip. But we pushed on shifting gear after gear
driving the car like we just had just stolen it until we reached the
border. By the time we had purchased our Third party insurance for the
car, check through customs, we made it through the border at EXACTLY
12AM. While taking a breather at the Thai border, Peter( photographer),
who had kept real quiet in the car all the way, lit a cigarette and
starts swearing at me in Cantonese just like what POWERHAUS had said on
page 1, t** n** m* c****...next time YOU DRIVE LIKE THAT.... I can't
remember much after that.

We immediately called the other guys who were already in Hadyai and told
them, " hey we made it!" Only to get the respond, "...why so late?! We
already had dinner!".

So the rest of the way from the border into Hadyai we did kept it within
speed limit, rest assure.

Why the long story? Upon our return I had related my speeding experiences
with Jeff and he had related me his comfort experience about the Savvy.
It was that we, non Proton car owners (myself a Kembara and Jeff a Mit
4x4), had under estimated this car completely. We initially gawked at the
car when Proton gave us the keys but came back ranting and raving about
it.

We were hugely impressed with its ride and handling, which is obviously
the work of the Malaysian owned Lotus Engineering division, that had
given it its stability in high speeds and on windy roads. Especially the
windy pass after Ipoh toll...Boy that car can handle and the twisty
highway 4 from Phattalung into Krabi. Supportive seats and all. Hard but
supportive. All in all we came back home to KL thinking about getting
this car for our wives but secretly for ourselves. Why? because we had
liked the sporty-ness to it. Above it all it was in our budget.

A week after the event we were still talking about the car so we decided
to write an article on it. So the Savvy article came out in DRIVEN
unplanned and unintentionally. So sorry for those those offended by our
passionate auto journalism style but I would suggest that you guys stick
with foreign mags and wait for one day that you'll have the opportunity
to go out and purchase a 250K VW Gti or a super hot hatch from Vauxhall.
But for now the Savvy has our praises not because Proton lent it to us
but based on the fact that this little car did not let us down in this
event. That's why in the title we said The Proton Savvy- The little
engine that can.

Thank you DRIVEN101 from DRIVEN Magazine 


Latest extract from AW responded by DRIVE101 from DRIVEN Magazine (another writer)

I'm Jeff the other writer on the article. Based on what we have read in
AW this forum is not a healthy one with the amount of P1 bashers. I too
have under estimated the car when the SAvvy was launched until we drove
one. The article speaks for itself. My job takes me into the jungle where
I have to organize 4x4 expeditions. My everyday car is my trusted
Mitsubishi Pajero. The Savvy is a serious contender for my wifes car.
What's stopping us from buying? Nothing.

But as for the forum we can't say much for these bashers. We don't know
who they are. The editor and I had to come in to see what the stink is
all about and to stand up for what we have written. And we stand by it.

We think the Savvy for this price is a good car.

The answer is no- we weren't paid by Proton.

Jeff Z


Driven March issue has Savvy on it. thumbup.gif

This post has been edited by hypermount: Mar 11 2009, 02:41 PM
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post Jun 19 2008, 11:44 PM

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V2 rclxms.gif rclxms.gif long live savvy smile.gif

my savvy due for 60K service this month sweat.gif
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post Jun 20 2008, 12:01 AM

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version 2 already.. congratz!

here's my fren's savvy..

modification: Naturally-aspirated, K&N open-pod airfilter, custom exhaust, semi-racing clutch

73WHP



ps: hypermount, can put at 1st post? tongue.gif

This post has been edited by cloudstrife07: Jun 20 2008, 12:02 AM
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QUOTE(cloudstrife07 @ Jun 20 2008, 12:01 AM)
version 2 already.. congratz!

here's my fren's savvy..

modification: Naturally-aspirated, K&N open-pod airfilter, custom exhaust, semi-racing clutch

73WHP



ps: hypermount, can put at 1st post? tongue.gif
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any pic of your fren's engine bay? interested to know how the K&N open-pod looks like tongue.gif
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post Jun 20 2008, 12:48 AM

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congrats for makin it to V2!!!

will be gettin savvy soon, mebbe next month or so..
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post Jun 20 2008, 01:18 AM

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yeay V2

update on the ebd fiasco:
confirmed by proton factory: h-line are all fitted with ebd.
just the proton support staff, marketing, sales, edar etc konk-ed up and confused. so everyone can rest peacefully smile.gif
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post Jun 20 2008, 01:20 AM

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congrats on V2, will join this community next month... smile.gif
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post Jun 20 2008, 01:58 AM

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wow..already V2...congrats...
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post Jun 20 2008, 02:10 AM

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Congrats on V2..
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post Jun 20 2008, 02:11 AM

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congrats on v2
my red savvy almost reach 10k
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QUOTE(khan @ Jun 20 2008, 12:38 AM)
any pic of your fren's engine bay? interested to know how the K&N open-pod looks like  tongue.gif
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oh. will take a pic next time k.

but iianm, it's 2.5 or 2.75 or 3 inch K&N open pod. the intake steel (what issit called again?) is made by SAVOC member. and somehow there are some incompatibility so have to fork out $$ again for the size converter silicon.

This post has been edited by cloudstrife07: Jun 20 2008, 04:25 AM
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congrats..i dun have 1 now..

but want to get 1 in the future tongue.gif

pray for me hav rezeki lebih.. laugh.gif
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post Jun 20 2008, 09:16 AM

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V2 liao... :claps:

any latest pricing structure/promotion/deals?
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post Jun 20 2008, 09:30 AM

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today is not my lucky day.

day start with heavy raining.
start engine and got jerk when engine is below 2000rpm.
could be the engine stutter problems

http://www.savoc.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t...ea080bbe67f86a5

but my car 2500km only. not yet 10k. haih. do u think i need to clean my throttle body?

one more thing, almost met an accident. almost hit car in front. slippery and wet road. i guess the abs did help me. legs shaking after that. can heard the tyre make sound when i press brake very hard. almost kiss the front car's ass. sweat.gif cry.gif

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post Jun 20 2008, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(death_nite @ Jun 20 2008, 09:30 AM)
today is not my lucky day.

day start with heavy raining.
start engine and got jerk when engine is below 2000rpm.
could be the engine stutter problems

http://www.savoc.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t...ea080bbe67f86a5

but my car 2500km only. not yet 10k. haih. do u think i need to clean my throttle body?

one more thing, almost met an accident. almost hit car in front. slippery and wet road. i guess the abs did help me. legs shaking after that. can heard the tyre make sound when i press brake very hard. almost kiss the front car's ass. sweat.gif  cry.gif
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There's some water on the spark plug holes...it will go even if you dun blow dry it.
Worse case, hope it didn't spoilt the connector due to spark arcing - burning thru a small hole causing leakage when the spark grounded on a water droplet.

Read this to get the solutions and preventive measures (o-ring)
http://www.savoc.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3991
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post Jun 20 2008, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(hypermount @ Jun 20 2008, 09:57 AM)
There's some water on the spark plug holes...it will go even if you dun blow dry it.
Worse case, hope it didn't spoilt the connector due to spark arcing - burning thru a small hole causing leakage when the spark grounded on a water droplet.

Read this to get the solutions and preventive measures (o-ring)
http://www.savoc.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3991
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i did put o-ring last week. also use silicone to seal it as mention in savoc.net.

hurm. it cant be my TB got too much dirt. cos i dont hv problems to start my engine. i think maybe some sensor got wet due to rain. sad.gif will try later.

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QUOTE(khan @ Jun 20 2008, 12:38 AM)
any pic of your fren's engine bay? interested to know how the K&N open-pod looks like  tongue.gif
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This is open pod but using Apexi Dual Funnel intake.

http://www.savoc.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t...er=asc&start=80

p/s: The pic in that thread is Hypermount's Savvy tongue.gif
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QUOTE(hypermount @ Jun 20 2008, 09:57 AM)
There's some water on the spark plug holes...it will go even if you dun blow dry it.
Worse case, hope it didn't spoilt the connector due to spark arcing - burning thru a small hole causing leakage when the spark grounded on a water droplet.

Read this to get the solutions and preventive measures (o-ring)
http://www.savoc.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3991
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QUOTE(death_nite @ Jun 20 2008, 10:24 AM)
i did put o-ring last week. also use silicone to seal it as mention in savoc.net.

hurm. it cant be my TB got too much dirt. cos i dont hv problems to start my engine. i think maybe some sensor got wet due to rain. sad.gif will try later.
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after i left my car under the hot sun. no more stutter probs. everything is ok. hurm. weird. cos b4 this no probs even i left my car under heavy rain, the car were fine.
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QUOTE(lj0000 @ Jun 20 2008, 01:18 AM)
yeay V2

update on the ebd fiasco:
confirmed by proton factory: h-line are all fitted with ebd.
just the proton support staff, marketing, sales, edar etc konk-ed up and confused. so everyone can rest peacefully smile.gif
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so old model h-line got ebd installed or the facelift model?
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btw hypermount, thanks for update my list name.

more info: h-line energy orange 2007 model. biggrin.gif

still wonder which part of sensor got wet by water. =.="
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QUOTE(death_nite @ Jun 20 2008, 05:33 PM)
btw hypermount, thanks for update my list name.

more info: h-line energy orange 2007 model. biggrin.gif

still wonder which part of sensor got wet by water. =.="
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could be the spark plug well get wet with water - hence the ignition related prob like what I've said earlier... I suspect it's due to water is not drain properly thru the gutter panel - the black panel under the wiper during heavy rain - hence water go into the engine bay...the hole is stuck with leaves, twigs, debris etc.
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QUOTE(hypermount @ Jun 21 2008, 12:50 AM)
could be the spark plug well get wet with water - hence the ignition related prob like what I've said earlier... I suspect it's due to water is not drain properly thru the gutter panel - the black panel under the wiper during heavy rain - hence water go into the engine bay...the hole is stuck with leaves, twigs, debris etc.
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ok. will chk.

just now got stutter prob when rpm below 2000. but after i restart the engine; my car, ok edy. sad.gif owh today i didnt hear any amt sound when i open my door's car like it use too! haih. i pening kepala edy hypermount. so sad! rclxub.gif btw, no raining today.

hypermount, can u ask ur proton's fren that amt sound u mention b4 is for what? chk the gear, clutch or what? cos i think if smthg happened can figure it out. hurm.

edit: just now i check the sound is back. biggrin.gif after reading from savoc, the sound if for hydraulic clutch n gear pump sort of.

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sometimes after i stop the engine, i still can hear something is still running under the hood...like aircond tak tutup... what is that sound eh?
is it normal or what?
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post Jun 22 2008, 03:20 AM

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thats the radiator fan running. its normal.
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post Jun 22 2008, 03:21 AM

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QUOTE(blackorange @ Jun 22 2008, 02:45 AM)
sometimes after i stop the engine, i still can hear something is still running under the hood...like aircond tak tutup... what is that sound eh?
is it normal or what?
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occur to my car also.. but not so frequent. donno why it happened
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It's normal for savvy. The fan trying to cool down the engine.
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QUOTE(Azuma-kun @ Jun 22 2008, 10:09 AM)
It's normal for savvy. The fan trying to cool down the engine.
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yah..thats radiator mate..
normal thing..
dun wury biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(blackorange @ Jun 22 2008, 02:45 AM)
sometimes after i stop the engine, i still can hear something is still running under the hood...like aircond tak tutup... what is that sound eh?
is it normal or what?
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QUOTE(lj0000 @ Jun 22 2008, 03:20 AM)
thats the radiator fan running. its normal.
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QUOTE(mutt @ Jun 22 2008, 03:21 AM)
occur to my car also.. but not so frequent. donno why it happened
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QUOTE(Azuma-kun @ Jun 22 2008, 10:09 AM)
It's normal for savvy. The fan trying to cool down the engine.
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QUOTE(ammaraffandi @ Jun 22 2008, 06:46 PM)
yah..thats radiator mate..
normal thing..
dun wury  biggrin.gif
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it happened to me for the 1st time just now!! haha. it freak me out; but i know its normal. hehe.
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post Jun 23 2008, 09:40 AM

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Wow! V2 already!

Long live Savvy! thumbup.gif Come this October, my Savvy will be 3 years old. wub.gif
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QUOTE(nizam80 @ Jun 23 2008, 10:40 AM)
Wow! V2 already!

Long live Savvy! thumbup.gif Come this October, my Savvy will be 3 years old. wub.gif
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my savvy 2 year old already. so far so good. no major problem. maintenance cheaper than my wira too.
just that tyre worn out fast and worn out unequal. need to change tyres already although mileage only reach 20k.
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QUOTE(death_nite @ Jun 21 2008, 09:10 PM)
ok. will chk.

just now got stutter prob when rpm below 2000. but after i restart the engine; my car, ok edy. sad.gif owh today i didnt hear any amt sound when i open my door's car like it use too! haih. i pening kepala edy hypermount. so sad!  rclxub.gif btw, no raining today.

hypermount, can u ask ur proton's fren that amt sound u mention b4 is for what? chk the gear, clutch or what? cos i think if smthg happened can figure it out. hurm.

edit: just now i check the sound is back.  biggrin.gif after reading from savoc, the sound if for hydraulic clutch n gear pump sort of.
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The AMT wiring is linked to the door and brake - that's why when you open the door - got somekind of whirring sound. and gear auto downshift when pressing brake. Only in AMT savvy...

The radiator fan is normal man - typical of continental cars. SO DO NOT ever restart and shut down the engine to force the fan to stop spinning. Let it stop spinning itself. To save more fuel, when you drive w/o aircon you will encounter this more often nowdays. You can feel hot air draft from the back of the car, quit powerful. Scared the shit out of my mech once when the fan keep spinning. Functions like a turbo timer.
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QUOTE(kickurs2 @ Jun 23 2008, 11:07 AM)
my savvy 2 year old already. so far so good. no major problem. maintenance cheaper than my wira too.
just that tyre worn out fast and worn out unequal. need to change tyres already although mileage only reach 20k.
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Ya, me too. No major problems. Its a good all-round car (great for both short & long distance travel). The car still feels solid to drive after 3 years. I haven't changed my tyres yet, but i know i have to ASAP. sweat.gif sweat.gif

QUOTE(hypermount @ Jun 24 2008, 12:28 AM)
wow streamyx in southern region was so f***ed up last few days...page can't refreshed in 1 piece..now ok already

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Got my sterling grey 2007 M-Line AMT today.

Went through the checklist with the SA, and everything checks out OK.

Took the car on the highway for engine break-in, right up to 145km/h.

Very stable and thank god, a rattle-free interior. Happy with the Savvy!

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yesterday i drove constantly 150-170km/h for 20mins along plus highway using my AMT savvy! (2nd time my car hit 170km/h sweat.gif) actually the story begin when i saw a white SE MyVI driving so fast (that time my speed around 120km/h). then,i tailgating the myvi at 150-160km/h! guess what? my car can push even faster. the matter of fact, myvi will never beat SAVVY tongue.gif

i dare to do so cos my petrol usage is claimable tongue.gif


Added on June 24, 2008, 9:41 pm
QUOTE(raynman @ Jun 24 2008, 08:13 PM)
Got my sterling grey 2007 M-Line AMT today.

Went through the checklist with the SA, and everything checks out OK.

Took the car on the highway for engine break-in, right up to 145km/h.

Very stable and thank god, a rattle-free interior. Happy with the Savvy!
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anyone will shock when they know car like savvy got a great stability even in hi-speed. 145km/h is peanut for savvy nod.gif

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QUOTE(mutt @ Jun 24 2008, 09:37 PM)
yesterday i drove constantly 150-170km/h for 20mins along plus highway using my AMT savvy! (2nd time my car hit 170km/h sweat.gif) actually the story begin when i saw a white SE MyVI driving so fast (that time my speed around 120km/h). then,i tailgating the myvi at 150-160km/h! guess what? my car can push even faster. the matter of fact, myvi will never beat SAVVY tongue.gif

i dare to do so cos my petrol usage is claimable tongue.gif


Added on June 24, 2008, 9:41 pm

anyone will shock when they know car like savvy got a great stability even in hi-speed. 145km/h is peanut for savvy  nod.gif
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Yeah, I was quite surprised that a small car like the Savvy can be pushed to more than 140km/h without breaking a sweat.

I have driven the Alfa 156 selespeed and surprisingly the AMT is not too bad in comparison. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(raynman @ Jun 25 2008, 12:34 AM)
Yeah, I was quite surprised that a small car like the Savvy can be pushed to more than 140km/h without breaking a sweat.

I have driven the Alfa 156 selespeed and surprisingly the AMT is not too bad in comparison.  thumbup.gif
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comparing Alfa and SAWY? no way man.. (just acting like MyVi fanboy tongue.gif )
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comparing Alfa and SAWY? no way man.. (just acting like MyVi fanboy  tongue.gif )
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Just the selespeed technology vs AMT. Both uses hydraulic actuators to shift gears.
Only difference is the Alfa uses a paddle-shift on the steering wheel instead. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(raynman @ Jun 24 2008, 08:13 PM)
Got my sterling grey 2007 M-Line AMT today.

Went through the checklist with the SA, and everything checks out OK.

Took the car on the highway for engine break-in, right up to 145km/h.

Very stable and thank god, a rattle-free interior. Happy with the Savvy!
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wait till one month. sweat.gif mine got some minor rattle after one month usage. cry.gif but only heard when got bumpy/hole road. my front absorber (i think) got nyit nyit sound on bumpy/hole road.

QUOTE(mutt @ Jun 24 2008, 09:37 PM)
yesterday i drove constantly 150-170km/h for 20mins along plus highway using my AMT savvy! (2nd time my car hit 170km/h sweat.gif) actually the story begin when i saw a white SE MyVI driving so fast (that time my speed around 120km/h). then,i tailgating the myvi at 150-160km/h! guess what? my car can push even faster. the matter of fact, myvi will never beat SAVVY tongue.gif

i dare to do so cos my petrol usage is claimable
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Added on June 24, 2008, 9:41 pm

anyone will shock when they know car like savvy got a great stability even in hi-speed. 145km/h is peanut for savvy  nod.gif
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Ya, me too. No major problems. Its a good all-round car (great for both short & long distance travel). The car still feels solid to drive after 3 years. I haven't changed my tyres yet, but i know i have to ASAP. sweat.gif  sweat.gif
Hypermount, u from Johor?
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yes the only major wear n tear part I changed on nearly my 3-year old baby was tyres....

My other half is Johorean, and I'm quite familiar with JB also..staying in melaka.

QUOTE(death_nite @ Jun 25 2008, 08:37 AM)
wait till one month.  sweat.gif mine got some minor rattle after one month usage.  cry.gif but only heard when got bumpy/hole road. my front absorber (i think) got nyit nyit sound on bumpy/hole road.
thats so not fair!
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I got that when first got that car,,rectified during 1st 1K km service, something to do with the coil spring and bush.

Savvy is stable cos the chassis is rigid enough, you can feel it when going bumps or potholes, the whole chassis held it well together..even bigger cars like gen.2 and nip cars can't be compared. no need waste money on strut bars and other suspension mods.

120-130km/h is the sweetest spot for me..160km/h still stable even on my 13'' wheels and tyres..

and yea saga BLM stability also sucks... beroktua cars no need mention la...the worst is viva, the doors , the ride, steering, gearbox everything sux to the max..really like a toy car, nip cars gene.


Added on June 25, 2008, 5:44 pmSOmething to ponder on..

WIth the 1.2 engine...weight of the car is same.

Twingo 1.2

Urban Fuel
39.2 mpg - 16.67 KM/L (6 L/100KM).

Extra Urban - 26.1 KM/L (3.83 L/100KM).
61.4 mpg

Combined
50.4 mpg - 21.43 KM/L (4.67 L/100KM).


Twingo 1.2 turbo


Urban Fuel
36.2 mpg - 15.39 KM/L (6.5 L/100KM).

Extra Urban
57.6 mpg - 24.49 KM/L (4.08 L/100KM).

Combined
47.8 mpg - 20.32 KM/L (4.92 L/100KM).



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QUOTE(hypermount @ Jun 25 2008, 05:30 PM)
yes the only major wear n tear part I changed on nearly my 3-year old baby was tyres....

My other half is Johorean, and I'm quite familiar with JB also..staying in melaka.
I got that when first got that car,,rectified during 1st 1K km service, something to do with the coil spring and bush.

Savvy is stable cos the chassis is rigid enough, you can feel it when going bumps or potholes, the whole chassis held it well together..even bigger cars like gen.2 and nip cars can't be compared. no need waste money on strut bars and other suspension mods.

120-130km/h is the sweetest spot for me..160km/h still stable even on my 13'' wheels and tyres..

and yea saga BLM stability also sucks... beroktua cars no need mention la...the worst is viva, the doors , the ride, steering, gearbox everything sux to the max..really like a toy car, nip cars gene.
do u mean the nyit nyit sound? then i will rectified this on my 10k service. can right? hopefully they will fix it. huhu.
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do u mean the nyit nyit sound? then i will rectified this on my 10k service. can right? hopefully they will fix it. huhu.
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yup can get them rectified during ur 10k...i had this also...they did something to the coil springs, bush and retorque all the suspension bolts.


Added on June 26, 2008, 12:37 pmwow what a news...this company gonna use savvy chassis.

http://paultan.org/forum/index.php/topic,1081.0.html

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Gen.2 silhouette with a radical front end.

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Thanks to youngman china lo..
i wonder why proton dint take this into its own hands.
This also means, our savvy is going into China!

i think can guess a bit the specs:

Lithium ion battery
max distance 300km/charge
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top speed 145km/h
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energy cost/km <3sen euro

charging time 7 hours using 16 amps (house socket)
charging time 3 hours using special 35amps industrial socket
availability - Q4 2009

price 22.5keuro


this also means, SAVVY will NOT be phased out within this few years!
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what can i say is, I'M PROUD TO BE SAVVY OWNER rclxm9.gif
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my savvy is still way long time to wait..... sad.gifsad.gif
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QUOTE(hypermount @ Jun 26 2008, 11:58 AM)
yup can get them rectified during ur 10k...i had this also...they did something to the coil springs, bush and retorque all the suspension bolts.


Added on June 26, 2008, 12:37 pmwow what a news...this company gonna use savvy chassis.

http://paultan.org/forum/index.php/topic,1081.0.html

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what abt rattle at dashboard? can they fix it?
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what abt rattle at dashboard? can they fix it?
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ur savvy got rattle prob? my savvy 170km/h still no rattle tongue.gif
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Check and pinpoint where the sound come from then have a peek from below the dashboard...could be wires/cables hitting the dashboard.
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maybe also time to check the alignments and tyres to eliminate the shake in the first place. remember to rotate tayar before its too late!
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QUOTE(mutt @ Jun 26 2008, 08:51 PM)
ur savvy got rattle prob? my savvy 170km/h still no rattle  tongue.gif
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when on uneven/hole/bumpy road only. else no sound at all. hehe.

QUOTE(hypermount @ Jun 26 2008, 09:18 PM)
Check and pinpoint where the sound come from then have a peek from below the dashboard...could be wires/cables hitting the dashboard.
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ic. will check.

QUOTE(lj0000 @ Jun 27 2008, 12:23 AM)
maybe also time to check the alignments and tyres to eliminate the shake in the first place. remember to rotate tayar before its too late!
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my car still new what. sweat.gif btw did my alignment last week. well, as i said, bumpy road/holes/uneven road can only heard some rattle sound at dashboard. i think near steering la.

btw, rmmbr abt the amt sound when we open our door? realize the sound become quieter ler. not loud. can barely hear it. normally the sound loud. i donno this is a good sign or not. haih.
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For those Savvy Proud Owners in the nothern region, please help yourself to register as a member at SAVOC Nothern Region United. The best active forum for Savvy owners..

www.savocnru.net
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long long wait for savvy...sad.gifsad.gifsad.gif
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lj0000, how long do u wait?
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another month or two... i think due to shortage of components like spindle and coil


Added on June 28, 2008, 12:27 amshould i go get a 2007 model?

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QUOTE(lj0000 @ Jun 28 2008, 12:26 AM)
another month or two... i think due to shortage of components like spindle and coil


Added on June 28, 2008, 12:27 amshould i go get a 2007 model?
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I took delivery of my 2007 AMT 3 days ago and the ownership experience has been most satisfying.
As we all know, the 2007 stock had been languishing in the stockyard for a couple of months to a year.
My Savvy was born in Proton's Tanjong Malim plant on 7 May 2007.

My Proton Edar SA has got it properly polished and waxed. The paintwork and rubber linings are still
in pristine condition. No leaks while driving during a downpour yesterday.

No creaks or rattles were detected, even during engine break-in at high speeds exceeding 140km/h.
No fluid leaks detected. Air-con is very cold. AMT is working well, no jerks or unusually loud sounds
from the hydraulic actuators. It is very nice to drive in all traffic conditions. I have driven the Alfa 156
selespeed before and the AMT is comparatively smoother in operation. Alfa could have improved
the selespeed in the 147, because the 156 older version is a bit problematic, notably the leaking of
hydraulic fluid.

The only problem I had so far was a loose fitting petrol tank cap which was promptly replaced by the SA.

So far so good. I love my Savvy. thumbup.gif

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another month or two... i think due to shortage of components like spindle and coil


Added on June 28, 2008, 12:27 amshould i go get a 2007 model?
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i tot the waiting list of the savvy isnt so long unsure.gif , bcos i just want to book my savvy next week...
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i am going for h-line.. waiting list very long lo
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i am going for h-line.. waiting list very long lo
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my latest FC report

i straight away went to petrol station right after the fuel indicator start blinking. then i set mileage count to zero and refuel RM30. this time i drive more to uncle style in economic way happy.gif average speed around 80-90km/h. 90km highway, 70km jalan kampung and the rest city driving with a lot of traffic light and traffic jam.

i managed to get 244km before the fuel bar start blinking again. so, with rm30 can go 244km. 30/244=0.12 means 1km only RM0.12 almost the same like what proton claim that savvy only consume RM0.11 of petrol per km.

btw, im driving AMT, done 40k km already.

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dear mutt
can u do the test using this method

1. pump full tank till click
2. reset to zero
3. run around 100km
4. go back to the same station, same gun, same time
5. pump full tank again till click

see whats the fuel consumption (xx liter/km)


Added on July 1, 2008, 12:47 amsavvy wait list... unknown.. coe also dunno how long the wait is cry.gif

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me around 16km/l for stop n go traffic.... wow RM72 full tank at 1 bar blinking..

for me RM20 still could bring me to batu pahat from melaka..

proud to be part of the family.


Added on July 1, 2008, 11:18 amsaw some sediments on my coolant expansion tank...

sillicate buidup at the hose joints...bad sign..

DO not ever follow the manual, better flush @ clean the system yearly even it's a close circuit one.

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how to flush the radiator? since there are no cap to access it.


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QUOTE(hypermount @ Jul 1 2008, 11:06 AM)
me around 16km/l for stop n go traffic.... wow RM72 full tank at 1 bar blinking..

for me RM20 still could bring me to batu pahat from melaka..

proud to be part of the family.


Added on July 1, 2008, 11:18 amsaw some sediments on my coolant expansion tank...

sillicate buidup at the hose joints...bad sign..

DO not ever follow the manual, better flush @ clean the system yearly even it's a close circuit one.
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16km/L on stop & go traffic is very good already.


Hmmm sediments hmm.gif . I'm not sure about Savvy coolant spec, but I know Toyota Super Coolant (RM18/Litre) with 50-50 mixture of clean water are quite good - could last very long without sediments. Maybe could get few bottles and use it? If it works, good for the engine though.

AFAIK, I've tried other brands, some are "green", some are "white"... but after few days, they all become brown with sediments. This Toyota one maintain as new as 1st use (red color) even after a year.
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QUOTE(lj0000 @ Jul 1 2008, 12:41 AM)
dear mutt
can u do the test using this method

1. pump full tank till click
2. reset to zero
3. run around 100km
4. go back to the same station, same gun, same time
5. pump full tank again till click

see whats the fuel consumption (xx liter/km)


Added on July 1, 2008, 12:47 amsavvy wait list... unknown.. coe also dunno how long the wait is cry.gif
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uik blink.gif u want me to do a test? a real test? then who gonna sponsor me sweat.gif i never treat my savvy softly cos my right foot quite evil in the highway laugh.gif . but since my boss delay my salary for last month (still havent got until today vmad.gif ) then i need to jimat the car petrol and was suprising that savvy really can save that much! as what i stated earlier, i can get RM0.12 per km or 22.5km per liter (2.70/0.12)


this week i wanna send my car for 40k service. this is my 1st time i service my savvy (previously it's my dad's. just handover to me swap with my kembara dvvt laugh.gif ) i hope that u guys can give me some advice and suggestion like what is the best engine oil, what things need to be checked etc etc.

thx in advance smile.gif


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drive as usual lar.. just no need purposely go test for 100km. just maybe 2 days go pump
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Who wants 2nd hand sale Savvy AMT 2005, RM26k negotiable. PM me. Friend's cousin desperately want to sell but no idea who wants it? doh.gif
No longer want to sell. As 2nd hand price Savvy AMT too low. Sorry. sad.gif

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ugh guys, im in the midst of buying a savvy H-line 2007 model right now.

but i cant choose whether to pick energy orange or genetic silver. im ok with both colors.

energy orange looks refreshing, while genetic silver, when put into 14"/15" gold-coloured replica impul rims will look abit like impul latio sport tongue.gif
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Done my 1000km service at PESC Cheras yesterday.

Petronas Syntium 800 10W/30 - 3 litres RM53.00
Petronas Syntium 800 !0W/30 - 1 litre RM21.00
Oil Filter RM12.27
Drain Plug Sealing Ring RM 1.04

Total RM87.31

With free labour and car wash/vacuum. Quite cheap and good.
Only snag is I need to wait 2.5 hours for them to complete.
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QUOTE(cloudstrife07 @ Jul 2 2008, 09:51 AM)
ugh guys, im in the midst of buying a savvy H-line 2007 model right now.

but i cant choose whether to pick energy orange or genetic silver. im ok with both colors.

energy orange looks refreshing, while genetic silver, when put into 14"/15" gold-coloured replica impul rims will look abit like impul latio sport tongue.gif
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its up to u, but i would go for the energy orange.. then u can save money, dun need to buy new rims.. use dat money to pay for petrol.. haha..

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QUOTE(lost123 @ Jul 3 2008, 09:50 PM)
its up to u, but i would go for the energy orange.. then u can save money, dun need to buy new rims.. use dat money to pay for petrol.. haha..
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i heard about merdeka month promotion for proton. probably savvy will be included in this. is this true?

if it is, then i think i need to halt buying the savvy 1st lah.
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QUOTE(lj0000 @ Jul 1 2008, 06:00 PM)
how to flush the radiator? since there are no cap to access it.
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Remove the upper hose on the right top of the radiator and the bottom hose on the left. Hose down from the top of the radiator and do reverse flush from bottom. It's very hard to remove the hose clamp spring clip with a normal plier (you need to use a special locking plier), change it to screw hose clamp, easier to remove with a screwdriver. If you're adventurous or have serious problem with sediment, remove all the hoses you can find, like the one on the thermostat housing beside the engine and clean the hoses. After that you can refill and reflush using flushing formula or distilled water repeatly ...then only finally add coolant mixture.


Added on July 4, 2008, 10:22 am
QUOTE(dstl1128 @ Jul 1 2008, 06:16 PM)
16km/L on stop & go traffic is very good already.
Hmmm sediments  hmm.gif . I'm not sure about Savvy coolant spec, but I know Toyota Super Coolant (RM18/Litre) with 50-50 mixture of clean water are quite good - could last very long without sediments. Maybe could get few bottles and use it? If it works, good for the engine though.

AFAIK, I've tried other brands, some are "green", some are "white"... but after few days, they all become brown with sediments. This Toyota one maintain as new as 1st use (red color) even after a year.
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HOAT coolant is pretty expensive, that toyota coolant is cheap for it's price. Caltex Long Life is RM16.50 per 500ml, sold in Jusco coolant made by a local company Maximilin is around RM32 for 1.2L (more expensive yellow type one). Use only distilled water - tap water could cause heavy sediment in long term.


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QUOTE(mutt @ Jul 1 2008, 10:18 PM)
uik  blink.gif  u want me to do a test? a real test? then who gonna sponsor me  sweat.gif  i never treat my savvy softly cos my right foot quite evil in the highway  laugh.gif . but since my boss delay my salary for last month (still havent got until today  vmad.gif ) then i need to jimat the car petrol and was suprising that savvy really can save that much! as what i stated earlier, i can get RM0.12 per km or 22.5km per liter (2.70/0.12)
this week i wanna send my car for 40k service. this is my 1st time i service my savvy (previously it's my dad's. just handover to me swap with my kembara dvvt  laugh.gif ) i hope that u guys can give me some advice and suggestion like what is the best engine oil, what things need to be checked etc etc.

thx in advance  smile.gif
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I would say Amsoil ATM 10w/30 PAO based fully synthetic oil, best oil for savvy much better than Mobil 1. Or you can go for their top of the range Amsoil SSO.

40k - service
ASk them to check/clean the spark plugs before changing them

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QUOTE(hypermount @ Jul 4 2008, 10:17 AM)
Remove the upper hose on the right top of the radiator and the bottom hose on the left. Hose down from the top of the radiator and do reverse flush from bottom. It's very hard to remove the hose clamp spring clip with a normal plier (you need to use a special locking plier), change it to screw hose clamp, easier to remove with a screwdriver. If you're adventurous or have serious problem with sediment, remove all the hoses you can find, like the  one on the thermostat housing beside the engine and clean the hoses. After that you can refill and reflush using flushing formula or distilled water repeatly ...then only finally add coolant mixture.
can provide with pict?.. drool.gif


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QUOTE(raynman @ Jul 2 2008, 10:48 AM)
Done my 1000km service at PESC Cheras yesterday.

Petronas Syntium 800 10W/30 - 3 litres    RM53.00
Petronas Syntium 800 !0W/30  - 1 litre     RM21.00
Oil Filter                                                RM12.27
Drain Plug Sealing Ring                          RM 1.04

Total  RM87.31

With free labour and car wash/vacuum. Quite cheap and good.
Only snag is I need to wait 2.5 hours for them to complete.
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i heard about merdeka month promotion for proton. probably savvy will be included in this. is this true?

if it is, then i think i need to halt buying the savvy 1st lah.
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if do they hav....... it just interior... n mybe just boost hp 3-+.... if used aftermarket one... can get boost 6-+ hp
so, my advice... buy standart one.... then up great it ur self... orenge... also good but blue with black hood is the ultimate.. whistling.gif

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if do they hav....... it just interior... n mybe just boost hp 3-+.... if used aftermarket one... can get boost 6-+ hp
so, my advice... buy standart one.... then up great it ur self... orenge... also good but blue with black hood is the ultimate..  whistling.gif
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i think he's talking about discounts, not performance improvements.
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QUOTE(hypermount @ Jul 4 2008, 10:17 AM)
HOAT coolant is pretty expensive, that toyota coolant is cheap for it's price. Caltex Long Life is RM16.50 per 500ml, sold in Jusco coolant made by a local company Maximilin is around RM32 for 1.2L (more expensive yellow type one). Use only distilled water - tap water could cause heavy sediment in long term.
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I tried the yellow (like highlighter yellow) type one before, turns brown quite fast. HOAT never heard before. Toyota coolant is expensive when buy in accessory shop (around RM38), where you can get it at RM18 through genuine parts Toyota dealer. No idea whether Toyota one's could use in Savvy.
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Bought the MaxSilin green coolant, looks really bright like fluorescent green with almost 40% concentration. can change easily if it's no good.

[quote=savoc_am,Jul 4 2008, 11:23 AM]
can provide with pict?.. drool.gif

Pics are up. You're driving savvy rite. will add ur name.

DIY coolant replacement/cleaning the radiator
http://www.savoc.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=245732

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[quote=hypermount,Jul 6 2008, 04:48 AM]
Bought the MaxSilin green coolant, looks really bright like fluorescent green with almost 40% concentration. can change easily if it's no good.

[quote=savoc_am,Jul 4 2008, 11:23 AM]
can provide with pict?.. drool.gif

Pics are up. You're driving savvy rite. will add ur name.

DIY coolant replacement/cleaning the radiator
http://www.savoc.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=245732
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yup....... cool2.gif em... why rite now .com and .net are gadoh2?.... .com blame .net... .net blame .com..... rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(savoc_am @ Jul 7 2008, 10:30 AM)
yup.......  cool2.gif  em... why rite now .com and .net are gadoh2?.... .com blame .net... .net blame .com.....  rclxub.gif
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what .com blame .net blame .com?
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what .com blame .net blame .com?
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Thanks hyper! replacing the hose connector with standard garden type is a good move smile.gif make life easier for the next flush


anyone know about the merdeka promo?
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QUOTE(savoc_am @ Jul 7 2008, 11:30 AM)
many thing bro... hav many frend from .net and also .com.... sory... i cant say it... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(lj0000 @ Jul 7 2008, 11:32 AM)
Thanks hyper! replacing the hose connector with standard garden type is a good move smile.gif make life easier for the next flush
anyone know about the merdeka promo?
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need admin approval sommore before entering
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QUOTE(lj0000 @ Jul 7 2008, 01:33 PM)
wah since when got savoc.com.my
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long time ago edy got la. but this one need to pay? haih. sweat.gif
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maybe its time also to break the forum properly according to interest/geographical

savoc's branch is actually very good liao. but lack regions like northern/central etc.
language is also another barrier... cari is on chinese, savoc mainly malay and here is english.
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QUOTE(lj0000 @ Jul 7 2008, 11:32 AM)
Thanks hyper! replacing the hose connector with standard garden type is a good move smile.gif make life easier for the next flush
anyone know about the merdeka promo?
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yea i think i heard about it.. if im not mistaken, the promo includes free bodykit i think..
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free body kit? the r3 or the zero kit one?
die lo.. i book in june ler.. valid for me or not
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free body kit? the r3 or the zero kit one?
die lo.. i book in june ler.. valid for me or not
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wats the diff between zero kit and R3 kit???

and yea.. i dun think its valid for any bookings before the promotion begins..

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QUOTE(lj0000 @ Jul 7 2008, 11:32 AM)
Thanks hyper! replacing the hose connector with standard garden type is a good move smile.gif make life easier for the next flush
anyone know about the merdeka promo?
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hahah no la, llok carefully, I just stuck the garden hose into the hose to flush out old coolant and buildups...reverse flushing is to dislodge the buildups...the coolant flow in savvy radiator is from bottom to above hose..

Removed all the hoses, and the only thing I changed was the original hose clamps spring type to screw clamps so easier to remove the hoses in the future to do multiple flushing..like using distilled vinegar, and run the car and then do multiple flushings to ensure the system is totally clean.

from this --->> user posted image to this ---->>> user posted image

spring clamp is hard to remove using normal plier, need a special locking plier to make it easier.


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maybe its time also to break the forum properly according to interest/geographical

savoc's branch is actually very good liao. but lack regions like northern/central etc.
language is also another barrier... cari is on chinese, savoc mainly malay and here is english.
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savoc.com.my is mostly in malay chat..

savoc.net still speak mostly in english - apart from the kopitiam.

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savoc.net the ori is much more informative...

the net club is modeled after independent club like the Renault UK forums, bunch of helpful people with no strings or bonds attached..
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Guys, need some info here.

Have you guys gone for the Recall already?

The SC (Mutiara Damansara) i went to ask me to wait and wait for my turn.....WTF...how long do i have to wait? I think i need to complain already, said only recall, but no action done for months!!!

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Although i'm not too worry about the problem, but it sucks to wait forever with no end in sight. Anyone of you have heard weird noise from your bearings?

A friend of mine, driving Kelisa...said he replaced the bearing thingy 4 times in 3 years... laugh.gif

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QUOTE(lj0000 @ Jul 9 2008, 10:36 PM)
worth to pay the membership fee at savoc?
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i dont know about anyone else, but i think savoc.net is a lot more informative. plus, the forum software is cleaner compared to theirs.
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A friend of mine, driving Kelisa...said he replaced the bearing thingy 4 times in 3 years... laugh.gif
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ur lady friend is using the kelisa to drift rclxms.gif rclxms.gif thats y need replacement so soon rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

well to be fair, my colleague's 1 swift and another 1 atos replaced bearings after 2 years of use.

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haih. make me worried la. even mine still new; u guys think how long it can survive aa? still waiting for bearing parts. hurm.

and another one, how to know mine amt is using renault amt oil or not? cos i heard 2007 use renault one not proton oil one. scared later i buy new one but turn out it already renault oil. hurm. sad.gif
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renault oil is the correct oil. u shud be worried if they use proton oil
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QUOTE(death_nite @ Jul 10 2008, 06:07 PM)
haih. make me worried la. even mine still new; u guys think how long it can survive aa? still waiting for bearing parts. hurm.

and another one, how to know mine amt is using renault amt oil or not? cos i heard 2007 use renault one not proton oil one. scared later i buy new one but turn out it already renault oil. hurm. sad.gif
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QUOTE(lj0000 @ Jul 10 2008, 10:46 PM)
renault oil is the correct oil. u shud be worried if they use proton oil
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QUOTE(tesla_rage @ Jul 10 2008, 10:52 PM)
You should be happy if you get the Renault Oil!  thumbup.gif
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well,
thats what i wanna know how to identify the renault oil?
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proton oil u will get gear stuck, jerking, kuduk kuduk sound etc
if unsure, just change it.. not very expensive. according to savoc place, 1 bottle can serve 3 cars so maybe here also we can have a share-service.

Renault D3 Syn renaultmatic oil for Savy auto cars comes in 2litres- rm78 Nett. for 4 litres rm156 Nett.

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After my 1000km first service at PESC Cheras, I went to RS Auto
the following day to do the following:-

1. Flush 'old' AMT fluid and replace with Renaultmatic D3 SYN.
Available in 1 litre pack. I don't want to take chances to
continue using what could be Proton ATF fluid.

2. Drain 'unknown' manual transmission oil and replace with
Tranself TRJ 75W/80. Used 3.4 litres of 4 1-litre bottles.

3. Clean a surprisingly dirty throttle body for a new car.
No wonder it was a bit jerky in 2nd gear previously.

Mr Hoe said no need to clean TDC sensor if I am not
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After this, no stutters or jerks, and gear shifts are very smooth
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proton savvy recall..? what year car need back to proton service? 2007 and 2008 new car also need to fix or not..? sorry coz im newbie..

where can i get front bumper and rear bumper mod at cheaper price..? thanks

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QUOTE(lazogirlz @ Jul 12 2008, 02:03 AM)
proton savvy recall..? what year car need back to proton service? 2007 and 2008 new car also need to fix or not..? sorry coz im newbie..

where can i get front bumper and rear bumper mod at cheaper price..? thanks
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2007 n below. 2008 no need recall.
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already received my car yesterday, M-line black manual savvy 2007 model... So far im satisfied with the car...

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hey guys...forgot to ask.

my boss shocked cos my car got no audio control on steering. i am shocked too. he said his mom savvy got audio button on steering (but of cos no abs or airbag).

so, question is, y mine doesnt hv any button on steering? izzit for non-facelift model only? =.="
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mine n my fren savvy also du have the panel...
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my latest FC report

pump RM50 right after my fuel indicator start blinking. set mileage meter to zero and i manage to get 251km only sleep.gif (2nd pump manage to get 257km)

40% highway
30% 2 lane road
30% city

the reasons my savvy not enough 'savvy' are

on highway, my average speed was 150km/h sweat.gif
on 2lane road, drive like ah beng, over taking cars and lorries recklessly sleep.gif
too much braking and accelerating

3rd pump, refuel RM50. manage to get 317km

this time my average speed is 100km/h
normal driving style. sometimes too much braking and accelerating

tyre pressure also play the major role in fuel saving.





* my reports based on the same road i use



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QUOTE(recojr @ Jul 12 2008, 08:54 PM)
mine n my fren savvy also du have the panel...
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so which model r u and what year? haih. maybe hi-line dont hv panel on steering. sad.

QUOTE(mutt @ Jul 12 2008, 09:25 PM)
my latest FC report

pump RM50 right after my fuel indicator start blinking. set mileage meter to zero and i manage to get 251km only sleep.gif (2nd pump manage to get 257km)

40% highway
30% 2 lane road
30% city

the reasons my savvy not enough 'savvy' are

on highway, my average speed was 150km/h sweat.gif
on 2lane road, drive like ah beng, over taking cars and lorries recklessly sleep.gif
too much braking and accelerating

3rd pump, refuel RM50. manage to get 317km

this time my average speed is 100km/h
normal driving style. sometimes too much braking and accelerating

tyre pressure also play the major role in fuel saving.
* my reports based on the same road i use
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so basically how many km/l? lazy to read la. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(death_nite @ Jul 12 2008, 10:39 PM)
sweat.gif

so which model r u and what year? haih. maybe hi-line dont hv panel on steering. sad.
so basically how many km/l? lazy to read la. tongue.gif
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since when savvy steering have those panel? first time heard of it.

btw u guys pump the air how many psi? i pump 36psi front 33 psi rear. the sticker wrote 31psi front 28 psi rear but with these FC suffers. i saw on the tyre written max pressure 44psi. should i try to pump more air?
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QUOTE(death_nite @ Jul 12 2008, 10:39 PM)
sweat.gif

so which model r u and what year? haih. maybe hi-line dont hv panel on steering. sad.
so basically how many km/l? lazy to read la. tongue.gif
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Sorry death nite, typo there... I meant Dont have, not do have... hehe.. BTW mine is M-line 2007 model, and my fren is 2005 model
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can go buy a blaupunkt unit that grips on the steering, use IR to remote control same as in nissan sentra.

or go for the sony unit that look like another paddle fixed to ur steering column.

of course the head unit have to change lah.
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QUOTE(Chartry @ Jul 12 2008, 11:55 PM)
since when savvy steering have those panel? first time heard of it.

btw u guys pump the air how many psi? i pump 36psi front 33 psi rear. the sticker wrote 31psi front 28 psi rear but with these FC suffers. i saw on the tyre written max pressure 44psi. should i try to pump more air?
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i donno. thats y i ask u guys. cos my boss said his mom's savvy got button on steering. sweat.gif

QUOTE(recojr @ Jul 13 2008, 01:30 AM)
Sorry death nite, typo there... I meant Dont have, not do have... hehe.. BTW mine is M-line 2007 model, and my fren is 2005 model
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ooo. ok. i tot u mean do have. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(lj0000 @ Jul 13 2008, 12:42 PM)
can go buy a blaupunkt unit that grips on the steering, use IR to remote control same as in nissan sentra.

or go for the sony unit that look like another paddle fixed to ur steering column.

of course the head unit have to change lah.
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no money larr.... blush.gif

btw, 1st time auto light turn on. today go ronda around jb, pusing2 stuck in traffic light. suddenly auto light turn on and gear turn from D to N. i think this is a mechanism to protect the hydraulics clutch from overheating, or it edy overheat! sweat.gif

i guess, mine is proton oil not renault one. next week must buy renault fluid! shakehead.gif
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AFAIK only Proton Persona have "Multi function audio control buttons on the steering wheel"
Perhaps your boss mixed up between Persona and Savvy coz both using the same design steering wheel
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no money...
why not do it this way:
get the FM modulator for mp3----RM50
then stick the remote control that comes with it on ur steering wheel
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most of FM modulator have poor sound quality compared to CD...

BTW, is it new savvy consumed a lot of petrol? because i thk mine already drank RM40++ for 160km
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QUOTE(recojr @ Jul 14 2008, 06:17 AM)
most of FM modulator have poor sound quality compared to CD...

BTW, is it new savvy consumed a lot of petrol? because i thk mine already drank RM40++ for 160km
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QUOTE(recojr @ Jul 14 2008, 06:17 AM)
because i thk mine already drank RM40++ for 160km
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i think pretty normal; due to fuel price. sweat.gif
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Normal? That is freaking low 10.8km/L.



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refuel RM50. manage to get 317km

17km/L ... that is much better.
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QUOTE(dstl1128 @ Jul 14 2008, 05:02 PM)
Normal? That is freaking low 10.8km/L.
17km/L ... that is much better.
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erh. sorry. didnt count it. blush.gif notworthy.gif

17? i hardly get it for town driving. sad.gif normally around 14-15km/l only.

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QUOTE(mutt @ Jul 12 2008, 09:25 PM)
my latest FC report

pump RM50 right after my fuel indicator start blinking. set mileage meter to zero and i manage to get 251km only sleep.gif (2nd pump manage to get 257km)

40% highway
30% 2 lane road
30% city

the reasons my savvy not enough 'savvy' are

on highway, my average speed was 150km/h sweat.gif
on 2lane road, drive like ah beng, over taking cars and lorries recklessly sleep.gif
too much braking and accelerating

3rd pump, refuel RM50. manage to get 317km

this time my average speed is 100km/h
normal driving style. sometimes too much braking and accelerating

tyre pressure also play the major role in fuel saving.
* my reports based on the same road i use
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bro, whats your tyre pressure?

my AMT savvy hardly can archive 0.18/km, even with uncle driving style. cry.gif

by the way, i do 100% city driving and no hard accelerate nor hard breaking and i only drive in "manual" mode.

No mod done to my car except UR lower arm bar.
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QUOTE(death_nite @ Jul 13 2008, 08:15 PM)
i donno. thats y i ask u guys. cos my boss said his mom's savvy got button on steering.  sweat.gif
ooo. ok. i tot u mean do have. biggrin.gif
no money larr.... blush.gif
Savvy where got radio button on steering, ya boss just playing playing la, just wanna scare u want ...
Never heard of this. icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(alhardy @ Jul 15 2008, 07:58 AM)
Savvy where got radio button on steering, ya boss just playing playing la, just wanna scare u want ...
Never heard of this.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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i nvr heard oso. sweat.gif but the way he said it very confident one. thats y i asked u. doh.gif ok ok. maybe he confuse la. between savvy n persona.

btw, how many time do u guys pump ur tire? once per week? once per 2 week? month?
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i do mine like once in 2 weeks.

240kpa for front.
220kpa for rear.

tires are 175/50/r15 wrapped around 15" wheels with 6.5" width.
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QUOTE(death_nite @ Jul 15 2008, 08:38 AM)
i nvr heard oso. sweat.gif but the way he said it very confident one. thats y i asked u. doh.gif ok ok. maybe he confuse la. between savvy n persona.

btw, how many time do u guys pump ur tire? once per week? once per 2 week? month?
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me once a week. right tyre pressure means will get more km thumbup.gif
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2007 n below. 2008 no need recall.
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merdeka promo:
heard its going to be petrol voucher and service voucher

anyone confirm this?


Added on July 17, 2008, 12:29 ammerdeka promo:
heard its going to be petrol voucher and service voucher

anyone confirm this?

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If the chassis number is below 35201, then u are included in the latest rear wheel bearing recall.

Please read the old thread for extra information and get your facts right.
There is no need to repeatedly highlight the same issue every now and then
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QUOTE(lj0000 @ Jul 17 2008, 12:16 AM)
merdeka promo:
heard its going to be petrol voucher and service voucher

anyone confirm this?


Added on July 17, 2008, 12:29 ammerdeka promo:
heard its going to be petrol voucher and service voucher

anyone confirm this?
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yeap i heard dat as well..

wat i heard was free body kit, petrol voucher and service voucher..
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Guys the Merdeka promo when start ?
Dunno the savvy lite still get the promotion or not .. for the trade in old car rebate 5k and deduct some cash for 2007model...
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QUOTE(yeewensmc @ Jul 17 2008, 10:55 AM)
Guys the Merdeka promo when start ?
Dunno the savvy lite still get the promotion or not .. for the trade in old car rebate 5k and deduct some cash for 2007model...
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if im not mistaken its gonna start 25july

and i think 2007 model finish liaoz.. oni got 2008 models..
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QUOTE(gary_cheah85 @ Jul 17 2008, 12:29 AM)
If the chassis number is below 35201, then u are included in the latest rear wheel bearing recall.

Please read the old thread for extra information and get your facts right.
There is no need to repeatedly highlight the same issue every now and then
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how to see the chasis num..?
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QUOTE(death_nite @ Jul 18 2008, 03:39 PM)
according to my understanding, by looping it with 1.5kohm resistor, the aux function will b activated. then press the CD/AUX button. in our case, i think we need to press MODE button (since this button use to activate cd player).

if this method can be use in our savvy, when pressing MODE it will go to cd. press twice will go to aux. again will go back to radio.

any1 care to try it first? tongue.gif btw, am not responsible. hehe.
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any1 has any ideas abt it? tongue.gif

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/440878
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the rca holes are for output. so no chance of making it as input.
suggestion is to get a power amp connected to the output, then add a selector switch to bypass the radio.


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QUOTE(lazogirlz @ Jul 17 2008, 08:59 PM)
how to see the chasis num..?
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open the car bonnet. then peek into the engine compartment.
the chassis number is somewhere above the engine firewall
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chasis numbre.. if not mistaken at the bottom of the driverside door frame
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The number is everywhere hehe,..under the driver seat also and on the front/rear windscreen...get the last 5 digit numbers...ur registration card also got.


Added on July 20, 2008, 1:01 pm
QUOTE(lj0000 @ Jul 19 2008, 04:51 PM)
the rca holes are for output. so no chance of making it as input.
suggestion is to get a power amp connected to the output, then add a selector switch to bypass the radio.
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no that one...the cable connector sticking out...let's see if we can activate the aux in..

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QUOTE(lj0000 @ Jul 19 2008, 04:51 PM)
the rca holes are for output. so no chance of making it as input.
suggestion is to get a power amp connected to the output, then add a selector switch to bypass the radio.
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QUOTE(hypermount @ Jul 20 2008, 12:59 PM)
The number is everywhere hehe,..under the driver seat also and on the front/rear windscreen...get the last 5 digit numbers...ur registration card also got.


Added on July 20, 2008, 1:01 pm

no that one...the cable connector sticking out...let's see if we can activate the aux in..
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not the rca holes like hypermount mention.

its the cable connector that sticking outside.

QUOTE(hypermount @ Jul 16 2008, 07:43 PM)
Savvy's clarion has only a pair of RCA out..no input at all.

This clarion HU's manually activated aux in thingy had been raised many times in this forums.

from the link,..

http://www.gvoc.net/auxcable/auxcable.php

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Savvy's HU bluetooth extension cable connector...the wires are almost same esp the colour...

user posted image

is it possible to activate the aux in by thhis method..then problem is how to activate it..press which button.
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i donno how to open the ice la. =.=" not brave enough. hehe.

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any1 know how to totally flush out the amt oil? =.="


Added on July 21, 2008, 3:25 pmand, izzit possible to find/put a wiper cap for front windscreen like rear wiper? tongue.gif

look much better la like that. hehe.

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QUOTE(death_nite @ Jul 21 2008, 02:43 PM)
any1 know how to totally flush out the amt oil? =.="


Added on July 21, 2008, 3:25 pmand, izzit possible to find/put a wiper cap for front windscreen like rear wiper? tongue.gif

look much better la like that. hehe.
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Suck out the oil from the reservoir using hand pump or watever means like automotive syringe , refill 0.6 litre...drive for a while maybe for few hundred kms to few thousands, then suck out again to ensure all old fluid in the lines apart from the reservoir totally replaced...for a 2 litre bottles that cost only RM70, u can do it 3 times, 6-7 times for 2 bottles I dun have qualm of doing it if my savvy is an AMT..there's no way to bleed the system.

diy change the AMT fluid.
http://www.savoc.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2372


What wiper cap? I think mine is there already.

Here's how to remove the audio headunit and the panels...pretty easy actually..
http://www.savoc.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2779


Here's some tip on wiring a new amp and speaker..
http://www.savoc.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6058



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QUOTE(hypermount @ Jul 21 2008, 11:13 PM)
Suck out the oil from the reservoir using hand pump or watever means like automotive syringe , refill 0.6 litre...drive for a while maybe for few hundred kms to few thousands, then suck out again to ensure all old fluid in the lines apart from the reservoir totally replaced...for a 2 litre bottles that cost only RM70, u can do it 3 times, 6-7 times for 2 bottles I dun have qualm of doing it if my savvy is an AMT..there's no way to bleed the system.

diy change the AMT fluid.
http://www.savoc.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2372
What wiper cap? I think mine is there already.

Here's how to remove the audio headunit and the panels...pretty easy actually..
http://www.savoc.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2779
Here's some tip on wiring a new amp and speaker..
http://www.savoc.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6058
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that diy kindda sweat.gif will wasting a lot of oil.

owh. i failed to explain properly. blush.gif

i mean is it possible to change the front wiper which hv same design like the rear one? blush.gif like latest civic one? tongue.gif
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you mean like thick wiper - like the Bosch aero-something, somebody's selling at the automotive garage...later dig out.


The AMT oil pack comes in 2 litre...you only use 0.6 litre, un sealed oil can't be kept long, nobody will but the opened bottle.. ok what do like that.
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can some1 tell me if i really wanna drag gear.. untill how fast rpm i should stop already..? example like GEAR 1, i wanna play its pickup but hope not to hurt its engine.. anyone?
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QUOTE(hypermount @ Jul 23 2008, 11:02 PM)
you mean like thick wiper - like the Bosch aero-something, somebody's selling at the automotive garage...later dig out.
The AMT oil pack comes in 2 litre...you only use 0.6 litre, un sealed oil can't be kept long, nobody will but the opened bottle.. ok what do like that.
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so, which one is better, silicone on this bosch aerotwin wiper? tongue.gif

QUOTE(lazogirlz @ Jul 25 2008, 01:37 AM)
can some1 tell me if i really wanna drag gear.. untill how fast rpm i should stop already..? example like GEAR 1, i wanna play its pickup but hope not to hurt its engine.. anyone?
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erm, u can try search at savoc.net

if not mistaken 1st > 2nd gear between 5k-5.5k rpm. 2nd gear onward 5.5k-6k rpm. erm not sure. blush.gif basically when the torque is maximum smthg2. i forgot edy la. doh.gif use this method if u want to race lar.

if want some pickup i think between 3k-4k rpm enough la. can change gear edy.

want to save fuel, change between 2k-3k rpm.
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Savvy promo is on!


Added on July 25, 2008, 12:22 pmhttp://www.proton-edar.com.my/index.php?page=campaign&action=view&id=39

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The Unbelievable Savvy Deal
FREE EXTENDED WARRANTY 175,000KM OR 5 YEARS WHICHEVER COMES FIRST
FREE BODY KIT
FREE SERVICE (2 years or 50,000km*)
FREE RM1,000 PETROL VOUCHERS
MALAYSIA’S most fuel-efficient RIDE*

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free 1k petrol vouchers? sweat.gif i want that! drool.gif

btw free bodykit? what do they add? demn la. feel sad la. haih. sad.gif so many free items. rclxub.gif
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Waoh that's a good deal that i have missed =/
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QUOTE(lazogirlz @ Jul 25 2008, 01:37 AM)
can some1 tell me if i really wanna drag gear.. untill how fast rpm i should stop already..? example like GEAR 1, i wanna play its pickup but hope not to hurt its engine.. anyone?
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u wanna drag but scare ur engine `cry`..? cannot like dat la my prend... when u drag.. u automaticly hit ur gear, ur tyre, ur piston, ur vavle, ur mounting... result = damage.. but whos care?... if realy wanna drag.. take 6000rpm... cos 6200 rev cut... make sure ur shif ur gear fast.. if u slow..
rpm will vibrate(revcut).. all gear 1 until 5... take 6000rpm.. idle reving at starting is 3000-4000... if less then 3000rpm.. no pickup... if more then 4000 your tyre will spin.. long spin one... if u do correctly u will get 0-100kmph for amt =13-14s(stock) if manual 12-13s(stock).. if u mod ur mt.. u will get less then 11s.. so, u can play2 with Satri GTi(stock)(pickup only) brows.gif
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i never try 0-100kmh b4 test b4 but my cousin told me its 12.2sec for his original savvy MT. can i get better than that score..? 10 sec or less can..? without changing or mod hard on its engine.
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shud concentrate on modding the car for >17km/liter
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notice the limited edition terbalik plate and terbalik tiger logo
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Not bad looking. It looks similar to the old bodykit (zerokit) from the 05' - 06' Savvy, but this time without the rear spoiler. I like the new Savvy rims. thumbup.gif Does proton sell them separately for first batch of Savvy owners?
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i like the rear spoiler ler...
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i prefer with spoiler but w/o skirtings.

looks like a tank.

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rm1k fuel voucher sweat.gif

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http://krayco.6.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=30
what abt this?
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QUOTE(nizam80 @ Jul 25 2008, 10:33 PM)
Not bad looking. It looks similar to the old bodykit (zerokit) from the 05' - 06' Savvy, but this time without the rear spoiler. I like the new Savvy rims.  thumbup.gif  Does proton sell them separately for first batch of Savvy owners?
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u dint tell early. i just trade in my rims for spoon rim. 1st day come out and less than 2 hours already go to change spoon.. icon_idea.gif


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i prefer with spoiler but w/o skirtings.

looks like a tank.
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mine is w/o skirting lol.. coz i dont like its original skirting. all savvy on road having same skirting make me feel like thats not special already..

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ahh man I love my savvy so much..!!
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QUOTE(Azuma-kun @ Jul 26 2008, 12:43 AM)
rm1k fuel voucher sweat.gif
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1k can survive my car for several months!

QUOTE(lazogirlz @ Jul 26 2008, 11:57 AM)
u dint tell early. i just trade in my rims for spoon rim. 1st day come out and less than 2 hours already go to change spoon.. icon_idea.gif


Added on July 26, 2008, 11:59 am

mine is w/o skirting lol.. coz i dont like its original skirting. all savvy on road having same skirting make me feel like thats not special already..
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waah! so fast change ur rims? sweat.gif

btw not understand la. this promotion, got free skirting but no spoiler? sweat.gif i prefer spoiler. but spoiler + skirting would look much better! nod.gif

QUOTE(hypermount @ Jul 26 2008, 02:51 PM)
ahh man I love my savvy so much..!!
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every1 knows that. rolleyes.gif laugh.gif tongue.gif


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i notice that! tongue.gif

wait, new savvy come with black n white proton logo?

damn! i like new proton logo! where can i get it aa? unsure.gif

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Savvy Promo is GREAT!!! bet we'll start seeing more savvy's on the road now..
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QUOTE(lost123 @ Jul 26 2008, 09:14 PM)
Savvy Promo is GREAT!!! bet we'll start seeing more savvy's on the road now..
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NOW PROTON SAVVY GOT NEW BODYKIT, , NO MORE REAR APRON,REPLACE WITH REAR SKIRTING.
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I think start from Saga, all proton models will have monochrome emblem thumbup.gif
First is Saga, then Persona iafm, and then CPS, then neo and now savvy.
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QUOTE(lost123 @ Jul 26 2008, 09:14 PM)
Savvy Promo is GREAT!!! bet we'll start seeing more savvy's on the road now..
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just tot use savvy can be different. haih. sweat.gif

QUOTE(Azuma-kun @ Jul 26 2008, 09:35 PM)
I think start from Saga, all proton models will have monochrome emblem thumbup.gif
First is Saga, then Persona iafm, and then CPS, then neo and now savvy.
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i want the monochrome emblem! wub.gif

QUOTE(blackorange @ Jul 26 2008, 10:40 PM)
awww man... i want that bodykit....
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awww man... i want monochrome emblem....
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QUOTE(Azuma-kun @ Jul 26 2008, 09:35 PM)
I think start from Saga, all proton models will have monochrome emblem thumbup.gif
First is Saga, then Persona iafm, and then CPS, then neo and now savvy.
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wats the monochrome emblem???
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wan c more how the kits look like?
http://thaiprotonclub.com/gallery.php?id=16
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QUOTE(lost123 @ Jul 26 2008, 11:57 PM)
wats the monochrome emblem???
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chk this link.

http://thaiprotonclub.com/picview.php?id=285

did u notice they use proton latest tiger monochrome logo instead the colorful one? that one look so cool!

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QUOTE(newmaster @ Jul 27 2008, 12:13 AM)
wan c more how the kits look like?
http://thaiprotonclub.com/gallery.php?id=16
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huh? got spoiler la. y said got skirting only? no spoiler? sweat.gif


Added on July 27, 2008, 12:57 amfrom link i say leather seat n lcd screen?

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WOW.. i like the emblem.. although its not very obvious is u look from a distance.. but up close it looks really nice..

yea and the bodykit has skirting for the back as well.. nice.. coz i saw the previous bodykit, the back skirting like got nothing wan.. haha..

this one is looks a lot better.. and btw, I LURVEEE THE WHITE SAVVY!!! too bad its oni for the lite version..
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QUOTE(lost123 @ Jul 27 2008, 02:03 AM)
WOW.. i like the emblem.. although its not very obvious is u look from a distance.. but up close it looks really nice..

yea and the bodykit has skirting for the back as well.. nice.. coz i saw the previous bodykit, the back skirting like got nothing wan.. haha..

this one is looks a lot better.. and btw, I LURVEEE THE WHITE SAVVY!!! too bad its oni for the lite version..
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i am oozzing for white as well... no choice.. have to go for silver

awaitng delivery this week! fingers crossed no problem one
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QUOTE(lj0000 @ Jul 28 2008, 01:53 AM)
i am oozzing for white as well... no choice.. have to go for silver

awaitng delivery this week! fingers crossed no problem one
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haiz....ECU faulty,need 1 month only got part then can repair... vmad.gif acceleration also no power knn !@#$%
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QUOTE(lazogirlz @ Jul 25 2008, 06:43 PM)
i never try 0-100kmh b4 test b4 but my cousin told me its 12.2sec for his original savvy MT. can i get better than that score..? 10 sec or less can..? without changing or mod hard on its engine.
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even L2 modded get 10s.....
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QUOTE(Mido_Ban @ Jul 28 2008, 09:44 AM)
haiz....ECU faulty,need 1 month only got part then can repair... vmad.gif  acceleration also no power knn !@#$%
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wah! ecu faulty! what happened? urs is mt or amt? sweat.gif still under warranty?
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ECU fault?.. how u now?..
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QUOTE(Mido_Ban @ Jul 28 2008, 09:44 AM)
haiz....ECU faulty,need 1 month only got part then can repair... vmad.gif  acceleration also no power knn !@#$%
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how u know ECU faulty..?
everytime when i change gear between 2k and 3k rpm, seems like no power but when i pull till 5k above, seems like its pickup very strong.. ist all savvy like this?
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QUOTE(lazogirlz @ Jul 28 2008, 12:37 PM)
how u know ECU faulty..?
everytime when i change gear between 2k and 3k rpm, seems like no power but when i pull till 5k above, seems like its pickup very strong.. ist all savvy like this?
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i hav dyno my car.. em.... the max torq at 4rpm... meaning after 4rpm ur torq is same.. no force are pushing ur head to back.. but remmbr hp is still increase at 4rpm..

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QUOTE(lazogirlz @ Jul 28 2008, 12:37 PM)
how u know ECU faulty..?
everytime when i change gear between 2k and 3k rpm, seems like no power but when i pull till 5k above, seems like its pickup very strong.. ist all savvy like this?
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i think so.
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QUOTE(savoc_am @ Jul 28 2008, 01:15 PM)
i hav dyno my car.. em.... the max torq at 4rpm... meaning after 4rpm ur torq is same.. no force are pushing ur head to back.. but remmbr hp is still increase at 4rpm..
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You need to press more...our ECU is adaptive/learning type..the throttle will feel slow if you've been driving sedately for quite some time.

http://www.savoc.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4353
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QUOTE(hypermount @ Jul 28 2008, 03:16 PM)
You need to press more...our ECU is adaptive/learning type..the throttle will feel slow if you've been driving sedately for quite some time.

http://www.savoc.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4353
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any prove?... cos i think ecu on savvy just 8pin(passive/static) ... not 16 or 32(intelligent/learning)... if 16 or 32 like subaru or evo.. u can remap it..


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QUOTE(death_nite @ Jul 28 2008, 09:59 AM)
wah! ecu faulty! what happened? urs is mt or amt? sweat.gif still under warranty?
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amt under warranty ...haih...no mood to drive with sick car...suka suka show me low fuel,suka suka accelarate but not going...and very delay...

QUOTE(savoc_am @ Jul 28 2008, 10:24 AM)
ECU fault?.. how u now?..
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is easy,near the speedometer there got a icon will light up when you ECU faulty,the book manual also got mention...I wonder manual will got this problem or not if ECU spoils but lose accelaration power???

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from savoc.net: http://www.savoc.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6145

QUOTE("xhcha")
Many AMT owners have these problems, the rest of the AMT owners "are yet to have these problems". So i decided to write my experiences since i have already wasted enough time trying to tell Proton and to troubleshoot the problem myself. Problems here include "jerking & stuttling" "D to N" "D to manual and jammed" and warning light comming out intermittenly for no apparent reason.


Actually, the real problem here is wiring, not the clutch pump, because i have tried a new pump, and have changed oil seals also. The pump looks perfect anyways. But after all that the problem still persists. OBD software indicates these error codes: BATTERY VOL SHORT CIRCUIT, HYDRAULIC PUMP PRESSURE BELOW MIN THRESHOLD. Mind you, im using the right software.

Most likely the main problem is wiring, because wrong grounding and wiring can cause insufficient voltage and will overheat the pumps faster. The situation will be aggravated if you turn on all air-cond and lights at the same time. My car will last longer if i turn on nothing before the gear goes to "D to manual" and then to "JAMMED in the same gear" if you still insist on pushing the car. This is because the TCU will try to PROTECT the mechanical parts when they detect something is wrong. So all i do is i wait for the AMT to cool down and the TCU to reset and then turn on and the car wil move again as normal (for a limited time of course).

U see, this gearbox and engine is very sophisticated, unlike the stupid Malaysian Kambing Mentality that says Savvy is lousy and only Myvi is good. They dont know how hi-tech this system is. The Savvy chassis, gearbox and engine is a PERFECT drive by wire tech for small a cc. The only problem is, like the Malaysian Kambing Mentality, the local assembly line did not followed Renault's original assemble plan correctly - no way the Renault Clio would have had this problem with the Magnetti Marelli unit like ours(ours is made in italy too, same stuff). The gearbox of savvy is very solid, and does not stutter like Myvi MT at all, and the AMT is a very good module that actuates the clutch more precisely than a human. If it jerks and stuttles, it only means that something is wrong with its assembly into the car, in this case, the wiring. So if something that is not meant to jerk, stuttle and jam, start to give these problems, it means that someone is not following the intructions when assembling. In fact the AMT unit is so hi-tech that it PROTECTS the mechnical parts from spoiling by temporary disabling the gearbox or preventing gear change, which is less dangerous than the car actually failling. And after so long running in a deprived state, the AMT still works - that is a rather good job by Renault, only thing is stupid proton dunno how to assemble, they think that hi tech western cars deserve cheap ass mentality to understand and can simply 'pasang'.

By right, the warning light isnt supposed come out at all, not even for one second. If it does then somethings not right and it deserves to be rectified immediately. Anyway, I dont think renault ever made such a faulty thing. Its should be a proper smooth semi-auto clutchless manual. (FYI, tiara is not Renault so stfu and go eat kambing -[ censored ]- bashers) (AND NO, they do not share this engine, D4F is strictly Renault, and Savvy doesnt have any engine problems except fot the ignition coil) (And NO, the Citroen failure model is not one bit its predesccesor, you stupid mindless bashers who say things based on gibberish word of mouth)

So one good way to solve this is to stir up the pride of Renault by telling them that Proton is 'mis-assembling' their parts and causing thier hi-tech gearbox to give problems as though it were a junk, creating a bad impression of Renault within the Malaysian Kambing Mentality market as well as the south east asia region. This will surely get their attention. Maybe someone should go tell Quincy Govin.

And the problem here is actually not the oil as i once thought and the gearbox is still doomed to fail if the MAIN PROBLEM is not rectified. The wrong oil type only aggravates the problem and will help a little if you change it.

My take on this scenario is that, somewhere, something is wrongly grounded causing voltage problems. Or proton took the wrong voltage reference when grounding. Or something is partially short circuited. Or a voltage regulator of some sort is missing from the gearbox electrical system due to cost cutting or who knows what. Not oil, not clutch pump, tried all that and wasted enough money already so y'all dont have to waste that kind of money like me. Take my word.


i am shocked! blink.gif

remind me of this 2 things happened to me:

1. once my gear did stuck at gear 3. jammed! in hot blazing afternoon 5 mins after i start my car n drive off for lunch! send to proton sc they only clear the log n reset ecu tcu

2. when switch on aircond at (speed: 3/4), when changing gear can heard the fan turn slower like not enough power. or at night with all lights turn on, aircond at speed 3 or 4, when changing gear can see the light will dimm and wont bright enough temporarily. like not enough power to draw from battery or enggine. shakehead.gif

rclxub.gif doh.gif sad.gif

btw, my aircond not as cold as i first got my car. aircond gas not enough? is there anyway to chk it without sending to aircond shop for refill? blush.gif

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so does this means pivot is compulsory?
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QUOTE(blackorange @ Jul 28 2008, 01:57 PM)
i think so.
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after 6k rpm is red already.. but why so easy can pull till 5.5k and above..?
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Hi everyone.. i soon get a Savvy R3 already... the manufacturer date are 2007. Are it ok? seem many people told me it have a alot of problem.. now I almost get the car already...
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how u manage to get 2007? 2nd hand?
i thought all run out of stock liao?
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QUOTE(lj0000 @ Jul 29 2008, 11:04 PM)
so does this means pivot is compulsory?
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pivot?

QUOTE(lazogirlz @ Jul 30 2008, 12:28 AM)
after 6k rpm is red already.. but why so easy can pull till 5.5k and above..?
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i read this engine easy to rev cos it got lower gear ratio?

did u guys change ur rear spindle edy? mine still in waiting list. sad.gif
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QUOTE(Mido_Ban @ Jul 28 2008, 05:37 PM)
is easy,near the speedometer there got a icon will light up when you ECU faulty,the book manual also got mention
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u ar the 1st i guess... i noe ECU fault by PDT...


Added on July 30, 2008, 10:15 am
QUOTE(lazogirlz @ Jul 30 2008, 12:28 AM)
after 6k rpm is red already.. but why so easy can pull till 5.5k and above..?
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u can go more but savvy hav REV-CUT at 6200rpm btw.. u get my pm?..


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Hi everyone.. i soon get a Savvy R3 already... the manufacturer date are 2007. Are it ok? seem many people told me it have a alot of problem.. now I almost get the car already...
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do savvy hav R3 edition?... i didt noe that..


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QUOTE(death_nite @ Jul 30 2008, 08:29 AM)
pivot?
i read this engine easy to rev cos it got lower gear ratio?

did u guys change ur rear spindle edy? mine still in waiting list. sad.gif
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so do i.. i didnt change yet.. still in waiting list 3-4 month already... mad.gif
what my friend do is.. go 2 OEM.. if can go at working days at early morning also can sembahyang subuh over there if u want.. whistling.gif
then they will check 4 u.. if necessary, they will change ur bearing at 1st...

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QUOTE(savoc_am @ Jul 28 2008, 04:05 PM)
any prove?... cos i think ecu on savvy just 8pin(passive/static) ... not 16 or 32(intelligent/learning)... if 16 or 32 like subaru or evo.. u can remap it..
correct me if wrong
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some say we can remap our ecu, can't use piggyback..what pin is that? on the ecu or diagnostic cable?
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last time proton COE do open on saturday for customer to change the rear spindle... no bookings needed... just drive through...
dont know proton COE still doing it or not...
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QUOTE(hypermount @ Jul 30 2008, 04:45 PM)
some say we can remap our ecu, can't use piggyback..what pin is that? on the ecu or diagnostic cable?
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ecu it self.. mayb this will help u.. http://wiki.r31skylineclub.com/index.php?title=ECU


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QUOTE(blackorange @ Jul 30 2008, 05:02 PM)
last time proton COE do open on saturday for customer to change the rear spindle... no bookings needed... just drive through...
dont know  proton COE still doing it or not...
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just go la bro.. still have.. (only bearing)... but better check by ur self 1st.. jack ur car.. spin ur tyre... then.. touch the spring.. if spring vibrate.. then ur car in bad condition.. it may lock ur tyre.. better go to coe.. as soon as possible...

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coe too far lar. hv no time. i am at jb. coe where? =.=" wanna go service oso dont hv time. so bz this month. sad.gif
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QUOTE(savoc_am @ Jul 30 2008, 05:23 PM)
ecu it self.. mayb this will help u.. http://wiki.r31skylineclub.com/index.php?title=ECU


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just go la bro.. still have.. (only bearing)... but better check by ur self 1st.. jack ur car.. spin ur tyre... then.. touch the spring.. if spring vibrate.. then ur car in bad condition.. it may lock ur tyre.. better go to coe.. as soon as possible...
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ive already changed it...
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QUOTE(lj0000 @ Jul 30 2008, 12:47 AM)
how u manage to get 2007? 2nd hand?
i thought all run out of stock liao?
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yupp.. second hand... brows.gif


QUOTE(savoc_am @ Jul 30 2008, 10:13 AM)


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do savvy hav R3 edition?... i didt noe that..

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yupp.. it have R3 edition... try you google it..
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QUOTE(scomatic @ Jul 31 2008, 12:21 AM)
yupp.. second hand...  brows.gif
yupp.. it have R3 edition... try you google it..
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2nd hand for year 2007 how much u bought? rm25k?
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QUOTE(savoc_am @ Jul 30 2008, 10:13 AM)
u ar the 1st i guess... i noe ECU fault by PDT...


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now cannot change auto and at 3rd gear i step full acceleration the RPM only reach 3,000 is like got speed limit...Also changin gear 4 sec delay...within the 4 sec u accelerate then you only hear vromm but car not moving....I wonder if they change new ECU then use another few months then spoils again ah??? This car only 2 months old...The reliability sucks....
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QUOTE(death_nite @ Jul 30 2008, 08:13 PM)
coe too far lar. hv no time. i am at jb. coe where? =.=" wanna go service oso dont hv time. so bz this month. sad.gif
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must hav at less 1 COE la at jb (i guess rolleyes.gif )... call proton i-Dcare.. as them.. where COE at jb..


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now cannot change auto and at 3rd gear i step full acceleration the RPM only reach 3,000 is like got speed limit...Also changin gear 4 sec delay...within the 4 sec u accelerate then you only hear vromm but car not moving....I wonder if they change new ECU then use another few months then spoils again ah??? This car only 2 months old...The reliability sucks....
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sweat.gif huhuhu... just 2 month ar.. em.. i guess ar.. its not ur ECU.. but ur TCU.. nod.gif WAAA.. i dont noe la problem like dis.. cant help cry.gif
just 2 month but get like tis problem ar.. so, what Proton say 2 u?...


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QUOTE(scomatic @ Jul 31 2008, 12:21 AM)
yupp.. second hand...  brows.gif
yupp.. it have R3 edition... try you google it..
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R3 for savvy just PROTOTYPE honey.... that savvy used 16inch rim.... just for show.. so... u car 16 inch ar? but u can just spray ur car to black.. then make a strip at left n right.. put r3 emblem.. the become R3.. anyone... please correct me if i wrong....



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sweat.gif  huhuhu... just 2 month ar.. em.. i guess ar.. its not ur ECU.. but ur TCU..  nod.gif WAAA.. i dont noe la problem like dis.. cant help  cry.gif
just 2 month but get like tis problem ar.. so, what Proton say 2 u?...

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what they said??? they favor quote "Wait ah~ we order part at least 1 months...So you wait ah~"
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QUOTE(savoc_am @ Jul 31 2008, 10:38 AM)
must hav at less 1 COE la at jb (i guess  rolleyes.gif )... call proton i-Dcare.. as them..  where COE at jb..


Added on July 31, 2008, 10:45 am
sweat.gif  huhuhu... just 2 month ar.. em.. i guess ar.. its not ur ECU.. but ur TCU..  nod.gif WAAA.. i dont noe la problem like dis.. cant help  cry.gif
just 2 month but get like tis problem ar.. so, what Proton say 2 u?...


Added on July 31, 2008, 10:55 am
R3 for savvy just PROTOTYPE honey.... that savvy used 16inch rim.... just for show.. so... u car 16 inch ar? but u can just spray ur car to black.. then make a strip at left n right.. put r3 emblem.. the become R3.. anyone... please correct me if i wrong....
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afaik, only got one coe. at jb only got normal proton pusat service.

QUOTE(Mido_Ban @ Jul 31 2008, 11:48 AM)
what they said??? they favor quote "Wait ah~ we order part at least 1 months...So you wait ah~"
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=.=" too bad 4 u. 2 months old got probs edy. hope mine dont give any problems.

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QUOTE(Mido_Ban @ Jul 31 2008, 09:03 AM)
now cannot change auto and at 3rd gear i step full acceleration the RPM only reach 3,000 is like got speed limit...Also changin gear 4 sec delay...within the 4 sec u accelerate then you only hear vromm but car not moving....I wonder if they change new ECU then use another few months then spoils again ah??? This car only 2 months old...The reliability sucks....
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Change ECU and if the installation is dodgy also no use.. the AMT is highly sensitve cars and proper wirings need to be done..

That rev limit is some kind of safe/limp mode. Happens in old renaults due to age/ wear n tear/chaffed of wirings... or improper earth grounding installation etc.

Sensitive also due to dirty sensors, all contact points/connectors need to be clean also not only the sensor itseft.

My ECU just after 3 years..all dusty cos never clean.

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Just look at the testimonials of zaptor VS/ grounding users..with a simple device like that much improvement was felt esp on AMT users.


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QUOTE(hypermount @ Jul 31 2008, 01:42 PM)
Change ECU and if the installation is dodgy also no use.. the AMT is highly sensitve cars and proper wirings need to be done..

That rev limit is some kind of safe/limp mode. Happens in old renaults due to age/ wear n tear/chaffed of wirings... or improper earth grounding installation etc.

Sensitive also due to dirty sensors, all contact points/connectors need to be clean also not only the sensor itseft.

My ECU just after 3 years..all dusty cos never clean.

user posted image

Just look at the testimonials of zaptor VS/ grounding users..with a simple device like that much improvement was felt esp on AMT users.
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Thx man for your informations...Because now the car can be drive but dangerous when at those Junction that require stop and go...Actually is a nice car just that the reliability is a issue...
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QUOTE(lazogirlz @ Jul 31 2008, 12:57 AM)
2nd hand for year 2007 how much u bought? rm25k?
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i get it at 27k. Mileage about 10k ++ only.


QUOTE(savoc_am @ Jul 31 2008, 10:38 AM)
must hav at less 1 COE la at jb (i guess  rolleyes.gif )... call proton i-Dcare.. as them..  where COE at jb..



Added on July 31, 2008, 10:55 am
R3 for savvy just PROTOTYPE honey.... that savvy used 16inch rim.... just for show.. so... u car 16 inch ar? but u can just spray ur car to black.. then make a strip at left n right.. put r3 emblem.. the become R3.. anyone... please correct me if i wrong....
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I think i know what u try to say already... haha... If want to use correct name, it can called R3 Zerokit + Proton Savvy. So outsider calling Savvy R3 lor... actual is not really R3, is just body kits R3.


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QUOTE(Mido_Ban @ Jul 31 2008, 03:32 PM)
Thx man for your informations...Because now the car can be drive but dangerous when at those Junction that require stop and go...Actually is a nice car just that the reliability is a issue...
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Reliability problem? ermm... but many people told me it is not bad wo... hmm.gif


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schomatic.. u bought at 27k.. ist a full spec r3? got airbags and abs..?

mine savvy sometimes feel jerking at gear 2 and 3. happen less than 7times after been using it for a month now and i bought new 1.
when its happen jerking, i turn switch off and turn on again, the jerking gone.. for temporary im using this to fix my normal ride.. is there anyone know wat makes my gear jerking...? thanks..
been to Proton service centre, they using that digital plug in and check 1, but everythings was goin fine but my car still got jerking sometimes.. how to solve it...
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TDC sensor issue lah tongue.gif

http://www.savoc.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4552
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now both of my right headlamp n foglamp ada dead!!!!!...
mine now is 55K..new problem...hard to start..must be speed sensor problem..
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QUOTE(lazogirlz @ Jul 31 2008, 08:39 PM)
schomatic.. u bought at 27k.. ist a full spec r3? got airbags and abs..?

mine savvy sometimes feel jerking at gear 2 and 3. happen less than 7times after been using it for a month now and i bought new 1.
when its happen jerking, i turn switch off and turn on again, the jerking gone.. for temporary im using this to fix my normal ride.. is there anyone know wat makes my gear jerking...? thanks..
been to Proton service centre, they using that digital plug in and check 1, but everythings was goin fine but my car still got jerking sometimes.. how to solve it...
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it is full spec... but no air bag and ABS le... or who at here got this feature?
you may check below link for clearance...
http://www.motortrader.com.my/NUS/articles..._468/page_m.asp


Gear jerking?
The problem u found... i think is normal AMT problem...
Gearbox may be rough during auto-interchange gears, especially when stopped at the traffic lights. But if you press the brake slightly harder, you will find no rough sound at all.

It is a manual gearbox with bolt on AMT system. No torque converter means you need to get used to using gears on hilly roads.

or i might be wrong... haha...

please read review at here...
http://www.carsurvey.org/viewcomments_review_91120.html
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mine is not AMT wor.. im using manual.. but i can start easily and never shutoff engine at traffic light.. just sometimes suddenly jerking problem on gear 2 and 3... normal city ride cost me almost 20cent per km.. quite expensive.. last time drive slowly like uncle also need 17cent+..
manual shouldnt so high rite..?
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Edited. The solution already provided in another savvy thread.

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Added on August 3, 2008, 4:42 pmfun day at the technolgy fair indeed! learn something new abt our savvy smile.gif

seems like our savvy CAN connect to aux smile.gif just have to buy the bluetooth module called BLT370 from:

audio force marketing
03 7804 8099

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I guess the hack works then.. hehe even at much cheaper cost then buying the stuff..will try over few days.
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QUOTE(lj0000 @ Aug 2 2008, 11:29 PM)
anyone went for the technology fair? worth going?


Added on August 3, 2008, 4:42 pmfun day at the technolgy fair indeed! learn something new abt our savvy smile.gif

seems like our savvy CAN connect to aux smile.gif just have to buy the bluetooth module called BLT370 from:

audio force marketing
03 7804 8099
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QUOTE(lj0000 @ Aug 3 2008, 05:15 PM)
Here it isAttached Image


Added on August 3, 2008, 10:02 pmhttp://galaxyautogallery.com/product9.htm
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wht did u learn abt our savvy? come come share wif us!

wait, y we need bluetooth module to connect to aux?

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QUOTE(scomatic @ Jul 31 2008, 07:38 PM)
I think i know what u try to say already... haha... If want to use correct name, it can called R3 Zerokit + Proton Savvy. So outsider calling Savvy R3 lor... actual is not really R3, is just body kits R3.

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em.. to make it not 2 be more confuse... tis are the differences between satria R3 and Satria GTi:-

Satria R3 Specification


* 105kW @ 6100rpm
* 168Nm @ 5600rpm


Satria GTi

*102.9 kW @ 6000 rpm
*164.0 Nm @ 5500 rpm


get what i REALY mean?.. same body n engine but performance are different cos has been tune by R3.. so, what are the differences between ur savvy R3 n others savvy car?..

ps/ u may compare it ur self with other satria 1.3 1.5 1.6 n also..

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QUOTE(lazogirlz @ Jul 31 2008, 08:39 PM)
schomatic.. u bought at 27k.. ist a full spec r3? got airbags and abs..?

mine savvy sometimes feel jerking at gear 2 and 3. happen less than 7times after been using it for a month now and i bought new 1.
when its happen jerking, i turn switch off and turn on again, the jerking gone.. for temporary im using this to fix my normal ride.. is there anyone know wat makes my gear jerking...? thanks..
been to Proton service centre, they using that digital plug in and check 1, but everythings was goin fine but my car still got jerking sometimes.. how to solve it...
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QUOTE(savoc_am @ Aug 4 2008, 10:16 AM)
em.. to make it not 2 be more confuse... tis are the differences between satria R3 and Satria GTi:-

Satria R3 Specification
    * 105kW @ 6100rpm
    * 168Nm @ 5600rpm
Satria GTi

      *102.9 kW @ 6000 rpm
      *164.0 Nm @ 5500 rpm
   

get what i REALY mean?..  same body n engine but performance are different cos has been tune by R3.. so, what are the differences between ur savvy R3 n others savvy car?..

ps/ u may compare it ur self with other satria 1.3 1.5 1.6 n also..
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Mine Savvy R3 and normal Savvy are the same performance only... it is just the body kit different that all...
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quite confuse.

when i chk at trade forum, they mention our savvy use 14"/20" wiper.

but when i measure it myself, its 16.6"/22". so which one is correct?

since there is no size of 16.6", which one should we take it? 16" or 17" one?
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wiper size - dunno leh...gotta check at jusco for the bosch wipers - got state the size for savvy..

Nice reviews..

[url]Link removed on author's request[/url]


Being on the lookout for a small car lately, wifey and I have been doing a lot of test driving and so far the cars I have tested include the Naza Bestari 206, Suzuki Swift, Hyundai Getz, Proton Savvy, Perodua Myvi and even the just-launched-last-Friday Hyundai i10. From all that driving 3 things stood out...

Number 1: the Bestari 206 is noisy. This is surprising as being a Peugeot owner, I expected the Europeans to be the most refined of the bunch. True, it generated no notable wind and road noise, but the engine noise was thrashy, coarse and the worst part is you need to thrash it to get any acceleration, so you'll be living with the noise a good portion of the time.
The engine? Let's just say that this is so last century. It's weak, and aside from the decent torque arriving at an astonishing 2800rpm, nothing nice to say about it. It clearly lacked the punch to power the 206, and the autobox blunted that even more. The noise I already mentioned is almost always there, and the amount of noise when you floor the pedal is nowhere near the acceleration you get.
Handling was good, though there was quite a bit of body roll in typical Pug fashion, but don't be fooled, the limits are still quite far off. Ride comfort was okay, a bit firmer than I expected. Built quality was good as far as I could tell, with no weird noises from the interior, though gaps were uneven here and there.


Number 2: the Savvy is shockingly good. Again, I say shockingly as the response towards this car hasn't been exactly good, and most buyers gravitated towards the Myvi instead. After driving it I'd say that they don't know what they're missing... Refinement was very good for its class, and engine noise remained relatively muted, road noise and wind noise nothing to complain about. But the biggest surprise was the ride comfort and handling.
It simply blew all the others (maybe tying the Swift) into the weeds. Damping was good, and even on the construction riddled Subang airport road it remained well behaved and bad roads were more heard than felt. And despite all that steering felt the best, very responsive and quick with decent heft. Reminds me of my old Satria Gti actually... Who says the Lotus association hasn't paid big dividends???
Power was actually decent despite the lowest on paper ratings, most likely due to the lack of a power-sapping torque converter. Engine noise was fine, no coarser or noisier than the Koreans. The technology in a car of this price is astounding, AMT aside, it comes with Drive-By-Wire. Best thing is however the reported fuel consumption, which is claimed to be up to 18km/L! Even after discounting the optimism in the testing, I figured you'd still end up with around 13-14km/L, which is still a lot.
In auto mode the gearshifts were a bit slow as the ECU was retarded a bit too much I'd think, so you actually feel a bit of a jerk. In manual mode it also exhibited similar behavious, but after a while I got used to it and learned to release the accelerator a bit when shifting, which then made gearchanges as smooth as it could be with a normal manual box. Truth be told both wifey and I had a lot of fun in the car.
To put things into perspective, similar AMT boxes such as the Selespeed and the Smart car generate a similar if not worse jerky behaviour, but once you get used to the release pedal thingy, it's fine. You wouldn't shift gears in a normal manual car with the accelerator pedal on full bore anyway, so I suppose we can't expect any different from the AMT.
The interior was the only thing that bothered me. It was very plasticky, though the quality of the plastics were not that bad, and I've actually seen worse in a car costing nearly twice its price (I won't say which...) but to its credit, everything was intuitively laid out and fell to hand naturally. Pedals were also laid out properly unlike the 206 which seemed to be skewed to one side. But they could have at least put some cloth at the doors like the Saga lah...
At the end of the day it's great in every way (plastics galore and size aside), and the only suspect is the reliability problems that have plagued Proton. Though recently quality has gone up a notch, there's still some way to go. The TUV certification and 5-year warranty does go some way towards addressing our scepticism though...


Number 3: the Hyundai i10 is a great car for its size. I expected a car that size (and truth be told to be tincan-like and clunky to drive. Nothing could be further from the truth. Refinement was great; road and wind noise well suppressed, and damping is very good. Feels like a much bigger car. Of course handling suffers due to the height of the car, but nothing really bad. Just felt a bit wobbly at higher speeds. Interior room was also superb, considering its size. One trick that made its legroom feel bigger was to make occupants sit straighter and higher, which it effortlessly did with its high roof (the car is as tall as a Myvi!!!). I suppose for short commutes this is fine, but it would get very tiring to sit like you're on a straight backed bench after a while.

And the rest? The Getz was actually the most well rounded of the lot, with a decent engine, decent handling, decent comfort and decent interior. Decent everything in fact, but nothing that stands out as being particularly bad or good. Not a bad approach really, look at Toyota...


The Swift was clearly the most well built, though by a slim margin. Interior plastics looked fine but didn't feel good, being in some places nastier than the Savvy plastics, and felt curiously hollow. Engine noise was not good, and being one of the cars in this group with variable valve timing, power was just adequate. Comfort was also not a standout, though handling felt at the top of the group bar the Savvy which felt more nimble. Surprisingly, the Savvy's wheelbase is longer than the Swift, though by a smidgen, it's still something you'd never be able to tell from just looking at both.

The Myvi was just plain disappointing. It handles like a strand of wet noodle, it isn't particularly comfortable, and built quality was just so-so. The engine was coarse and loud, was not powerful, and road noise was very memorable. Also, word is around that the fuel consumption is awful, in some cases with people claiming it costs about as much as their Wira 1.5, a car that is about 15 years older, is carburettored, has a 3 speed auto, and weighs about the same. The only reason why anyone should buy it is because of the perceived reliability of Peroduas. To make matters worse, it isn't cheap. I would say there is no reason, under any circumstance, that anyone should buy it, but the Myvi fanboys would come at me real quick. Just witness the mindless "Myvi rules..." posting in local forums...


What will we be buying? Well, we already have a big car, and wifey just need it to commute to and from work, and our priority is in not getting into any more debt. Take a guess... smile.gif

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he got the savvy aa?
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he got the savvy aa?
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Let's just say, fair n balance review...

Here's the updated version. The link to his blog was removed on his request..

Looking at small cars...
Being on the lookout for a small car lately, wifey and I have been doing a lot of test driving and so far the cars I have tested include the Naza Bestari 206, Suzuki Swift, Hyundai Getz, Proton Savvy, Perodua Myvi and even the just-launched-last-Friday Hyundai i10. From all that driving 3 things stood out...

Number 1: the Bestari 206 is noisy. This is surprising as being a Peugeot owner, I expected the Europeans to be the most refined of the bunch. True, it generated no notable wind and road noise, but the engine noise was thrashy, coarse and the worst part is you need to thrash it to get any acceleration, so you'll be living with the noise a good portion of the time. The engine? Let's just say that this is so last century. It's weak, and aside from the decent torque arriving at an astonishing 2800rpm, nothing nice to say about it. It clearly lacked the punch to power the 206, and the autobox blunted that even more. The noise I already mentioned is almost always there, and the amount of noise when you floor the pedal is nowhere near the acceleration you get. Handling was good, though there was quite a bit of body roll in typical Pug fashion, but don't be fooled, the limits are still quite far off. Ride comfort was okay, a bit firmer than I expected. Built quality was good as far as I could tell, with no weird noises from the interior, though there were some uneven gaps some places.

Number 2: the Savvy is shockingly good. Again, I say shockingly as the response towards this car hasn't been exactly good, and most buyers gravitated towards the Myvi instead. After driving it I'd say that they really are missing out on quite a bit...
Refinement was good for its class, and engine noise remained relatively muted, road noise and wind noise nothing to complain about. But the biggest surprise was the ride comfort and handling. It simply blew all the others (maybe tying the Swift) into the weeds. Damping was good, and even on the construction riddled Subang airport road it remained well behaved and bad roads were more heard than felt. And in spite of the comfy ride, handling was close to spot-on. Steering feel was great, very responsive and quick with decent heft. Reminds me of my old Satria Gti actually... Who says the Lotus association hasn't paid big dividends??? Only damper here was the steering material, it wasn't exactly nice to touch...
Power was actually decent despite the lowest on paper ratings, most likely due to the lack of a power-sapping torque converter. Engine noise was fine, no coarser or noisier than the Koreans. Best thing is however the reported fuel consumption, which is claimed to be up to 18km/L! Even after discounting the optimism in the testing, I figured you'd still end up with around 13-14km/L, which is still a lot. In auto mode the gearshifts had a bit of a lag as the ECU was retarded a bit too much, so you actually feel a quite a bit of a jerk. In manual mode it also exhibited similar behaviour, but after a while I got used to it and learned to release the accelerator a bit when shifting, which then made gearchanges as smooth as it could be with a normal manual box. Truth be told both wifey and I had a lot of fun in the car. To put things into perspective, similar AMT boxes such as the Selespeed and the Smart car generate a similar if not worse jerky behaviour, but once you get used to the release pedal thingy, it's fine. I've driven both, and let's just say that the first time I drove the Smart ForTwo, I felt quite ill by the end of the spin around the block! You wouldn't shift gears in a normal manual car with the accelerator pedal on full bore anyway, so I suppose we can't expect any different from the AMT.
The interior was probably the only place where it lost points. It was very plasticky, ESPECIALLY the door panels, though the quality of the plastics were not that bad, and I've actually seen worse in a car costing nearly twice its price (I won't say which...) but compared to the pretty i10 dash and the stylishly simple Swift, looked quite dowdy. To its credit, everything was intuitively laid out and fell to hand naturally. Pedals were also laid out properly unlike the 206 which seemed to be skewed to one side. But they could have at least put some cloth at the doors like the Saga lah...
At the end of the day it's nice in most ways (plastics galore and size aside), and the only suspect is the reliability problems that have plagued Proton. Though recently quality has gone up a notch, there's still some way to go. The TUV certification and 5-year warranty does go some way towards addressing our scepticism...

Number 3: the Hyundai i10 is a great car for its size. I expected a car that size to be tincan-like and clunky to drive. Nothing could be further from the truth. Refinement was great; road and wind noise well suppressed, and damping is very good. Feels like a much bigger car. Of course handling suffers due to the height of the car, but nothing really bad. Just felt a bit wobbly at higher speeds. Interior room was also superb, considering its size. One trick that made its legroom feel bigger was to make occupants sit straighter and higher, which it effortlessly did with its high roof (the car is as tall as a Myvi!!!). I suppose for short commutes this is fine, but it would get very tiring to sit like you're on a straight backed bench after a while. Another drawback was the cost cutting extended to the lack of an rpm meter...

And the rest? The Getz was actually the most well rounded of the lot, with a decent engine, decent handling, decent comfort and decent interior. Decent everything in fact, but nothing that stands out as being particularly bad or good. Not a bad approach really, look at Toyota...

The Swift was clearly the most well built, though by a slim margin. Interior plastics looked fine but didn't feel good, being in some places nastier than the Savvy plastics, and felt curiously hollow. Engine noise was not good, and being one of the cars in this group with variable valve timing, power was just adequate. Comfort was also not a standout, though handling felt at the top of the group bar the Savvy which felt more nimble probably largely due to its size. Surprisingly, the Swift's wheelbase is significantly shoter than the Getz and more surprsingly shorter than the Savvy, though by a smidgen, it's still something you'd never be able to tell from just looking at both.

The Myvi was just plain disappointing. It handles like a strand of wet noodle, it isn't particularly comfortable, and built quality was just so-so. The engine was coarse and loud, was not powerful, and road noise was very memorable. Also, word is around that the fuel consumption is awful, in some cases with people claiming it costs about as much as their Wira 1.5, a car that is about 15 years older, is carburettored, has a 3 speed auto, and weighs about the same. The only reason why anyone should buy it is because of the perceived reliability of Peroduas. To make matters worse, it isn't cheap. I would say there is no reason, under any circumstance, that anyone should buy it, but the Myvi fanboys would come at me real quick. Just witness the mindless "Myvi rules..." posting in local forums...

What will we be getting? Well, we already have a big car, and wifey just need it to commute to and from work, and our priority is in not getting into any more debt. Take a guess... smile.gif

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my car suddenly acting good to me. i got 6L/105++km rather than 6L/90km. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(hypermount @ Aug 4 2008, 09:16 PM)
The Myvi was just plain disappointing. It handles like a strand of wet noodle, it isn't particularly comfortable, and built quality was just so-so. The engine was coarse and loud, was not powerful, and road noise was very memorable. Also, word is around that the fuel consumption is awful, in some cases with people claiming it costs about as much as their Wira 1.5, a car that is about 15 years older, is carburettored, has a 3 speed auto, and weighs about the same. The only reason why anyone should buy it is because of the perceived reliability of Peroduas. To make matters worse, it isn't cheap. I would say there is no reason, under any circumstance, that anyone should buy it, but the Myvi fanboys would come at me real quick. Just witness the mindless "Myvi rules..." posting in local forums...

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Added on August 5, 2008, 10:23 am
QUOTE(death_nite @ Aug 5 2008, 10:02 AM)
my car suddenly acting good to me. i got 6L/105++km rather than 6L/90km. sweat.gif
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6L/90km already a good figure compare to other cars in the same segment. i read a review in a local newspaper said that naza bestari FC less than 6L/90km (the test driver manage to get 50km for RM10)

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hahaha.. so funny... i surfing for the spec of bestari, swift,myvi..

Bestari-1.4 litre Peugeot TU3 1.4L Electronic multipoint injection=75bhp
Myvi-1298cc,16v=86bhp
Swift-1298,16v=67bhp

realy shock! man... myvi hav most power all of them..
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QUOTE(mutt @ Aug 5 2008, 10:14 AM)

Added on August 5, 2008, 10:23 am

6L/90km already a good figure compare to other cars in the same segment. i read a review in a local newspaper said that naza bestari FC less than 6L/90km (the test driver manage to get 50km for RM10)
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ic ic.

well, its a town driving. dats y i am surprise. sweat.gif
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ic ic.

well, its a town driving. dats y i am surprise. sweat.gif
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i assume u did less accelerating and braking. this will contribute to a good FC. may i know how u measure the FC? as for me, i'll set the meter to zero right after the indicator start blinking. then i refuel and wait until the meter blinking again and that's my mileage reading. IMO that's the most accurate way to measure the FC.
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QUOTE(mutt @ Aug 5 2008, 11:05 AM)
i assume u did less accelerating and braking. this will contribute to a good FC. may i know how u measure the FC? as for me, i'll set the meter to zero right after the indicator start blinking. then i refuel and wait until the meter blinking again and that's my mileage reading. IMO that's the most accurate way to measure the FC.
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same like you did. smile.gif i believe everyone did the same way too. hehe.

i edy ordered zaptop vs. would like to c if there is any performance diff or not. as i read in savoc, amt user can feel the diff alot. if there is no diff, there goes my rm85 flying to drain. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(death_nite @ Aug 5 2008, 11:21 AM)
same like you did. smile.gif i believe everyone did the same way too. hehe.

i edy ordered zaptop vs. would like to c if there is any performance diff or not. as i read in savoc, amt user can feel the diff alot. if there is no diff, there goes my rm85 flying to drain. sweat.gif
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kinda interested. but then, wait until u tried it laugh.gif
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QUOTE(mutt @ Aug 5 2008, 11:25 AM)
kinda interested. but then, wait until u tried it  laugh.gif
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u better wait my feedback first. hahahaha.

but mostly, those amt user who installed zaptor in their savvy said, amt gear become much more smoother. maybe due to it got enough power from the battery. without it, ur engine work very hard to maintain power to the systems.

i hope probs like aircond fan turn slower when changing gears/headlamps dim when changing gear can be solve when i installed zaptor. unsure.gif

will give feedback next week la. cos i donno when i can get the item. due to my sis wont come work tomrow. (cos i use her office address ler. doh.gif ) n the item will be posted today. sweat.gif
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just now my car, auto lamp blinking several time. then D mode turn to M mode. blink.gif sweat.gif sad.gif cry.gif


Added on August 6, 2008, 10:10 amjust came back from sc. this one at tmn u beside petronas (skudai). i think this can be trust due to one of it tech got training from pesb for amt system. hehe. they show the cert. smmore their tech also use savvy.

well, they said not big problems. reset ecu would be fine. if still got probs send to sc at plentong. haih.

btw, they mention smthg abt pressure not enough. when on hill, if hold to long, this probs can occur.

but this remind me to smthg else, i need to change elf renaulmatic asap. probs is, i dont hv time to buy it. sweat.gif



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Oil from fingers could cause premature bulb failure

WOW never thought of this. I took it lightly before.

From wiki:

"In any case, it is essential to never touch the glass. It is likewise important to ensure the glass does not get scratched or dirty. If any of this occurs, the spot with dirt, oil, a scratch, or oil from fingers will eventually get hotter than the rest of the bulb and will blow out."

If want to DIY. Wipe with alcohol and clean cloth. Or use glove.


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QUOTE(death_nite @ Aug 6 2008, 08:10 AM)
just now my car, auto lamp blinking several time. then D mode turn to M mode. blink.gif  sweat.gif  sad.gif  cry.gif


Added on August 6, 2008, 10:10 amjust came back from sc. this one at tmn u beside petronas (skudai). i think this can be trust due to one of it tech got training from pesb for amt system. hehe. they show the cert. smmore their tech also use savvy.

well, they said not big problems. reset ecu would be fine. if still got probs send to sc at plentong. haih.

btw, they mention smthg abt pressure not enough. when on hill, if hold to long, this probs can occur.

but this remind me to smthg else, i need to change elf renaulmatic asap. probs is, i dont hv time to buy it. sweat.gif
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Can hold on to D for too long at halt be the cause?

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saw at jusco the wiper size is 17/22
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hmmm can't wait to install my angel eyes rings...you can get at the trade forums..pretty easy to installs.. all 4 rings..

hey same like the ccfl rings with fans for pc modding..if anyone can find the 120mm size.. 80mm for the smaller and 120mm for the big rings.. i guess it's much cheaper this way..same stuffs only.

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QUOTE(hypermount @ Aug 7 2008, 03:58 AM)
Can hold on to D for too long at halt be the cause?
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sorry from being failed to explain it. sweat.gif

not pretty sure what the error is. but he said hydraulic pressure for the clutch not high enough, thus thats y my D turn to M while driving (slowly actually, cos inside campus + a lot of bump). and he advice me not to hold on D for too long on hill as the same error can happened too.

i am not sure what he mean actually. sweat.gif not sure either when stopping or moving. if when stopping, i guess every1 know we need to put N. if on moving, i guess we need to use M mode instead. sweat.gif

thus this remind me one of the forumer post. where he mention proton atf not as good as renault one since it easily cause low pressure for the clutch pump. shakehead.gif

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saw at jusco the wiper size is 17/22
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QUOTE(hypermount @ Aug 8 2008, 01:32 AM)
hmmm can't wait to install my angel eyes rings...you can get at the trade forums..pretty easy to installs.. all 4 rings..

hey same like the ccfl rings with fans for pc modding..if anyone can find the 120mm size..  80mm for the smaller and 120mm for the big rings.. i guess it's much cheaper this way..same stuffs only.
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wah! how much!
come share how u diy.

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wei hypermount, i received the package; thanks wink.gif
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what package? unsure.gif

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edy got my zaptor.
i donno this is psychological effects or it really happened. blush.gif

things i notice got diff:

1. aircond wont turn slower when changing gears. but smtime still occur, but lesser than before.
2. fast respond when start the engine. can easily start the engine. take less time. can feel it got more power when start the engine. sweat.gif
3. brighter headlamp? not really notice able.
4. i notice, i got better pickup.
5. amt become smoother? not really notice able.

so far thats all. but one thing got no diff at all. when aircond start to kick in, engine still can feel heavy. shakehead.gif

ps: i am not sure i am satisfied or not. hahaha. but i dont feel regret at all. smile.gif
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hey what are you guy's fuel consumption when driving the savvy?

one kilometer = RM how much?


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hey what are you guy's fuel consumption when driving the savvy?

one kilometer = RM how much?
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I sacrified my small light for the wires to go through from the headlamp assembly - defintely not the correct way I think - gotta cut some gap Need to reopen them again.. big lights dimmer cos small rings take all the power due to characteristic of AC wires..both small and big rings wire sticking together..must separate them. ..quite easy actually..


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sorry from being failed to explain it. sweat.gif

not pretty sure what the error is. but he said hydraulic pressure for the clutch not high enough, thus thats y my D turn to M while driving (slowly actually, cos inside campus + a lot of bump). and he advice me not to hold on D for too long on hill as the same error can happened too.

i am not sure what he mean actually. sweat.gif not sure either when stopping or moving. if when stopping, i guess every1 know we need to put N. if on moving, i guess we need to use M mode instead. sweat.gif

thus this remind me one of the forumer post. where he mention proton atf not as good as renault one since it easily cause low pressure for the clutch pump. shakehead.gif
hey. thanks.
wah! how much!
come share how u diy.
what package? unsure.gif

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edy got my zaptor.
i donno this is psychological effects or it really happened. blush.gif

things i notice got diff:

1. aircond wont turn slower when changing gears. but smtime still occur, but lesser than before.
2. fast respond when start the engine. can easily start the engine. take less time. can feel it got more power when start the engine. sweat.gif
3. brighter headlamp? not really notice able.
4. i notice, i got better pickup.
5. amt become smoother? not really notice able.

so far thats all. but one thing got no diff at all. when aircond start to kick in, engine still can feel heavy. shakehead.gif

ps: i am not sure i am satisfied or not. hahaha. but i dont feel regret at all. smile.gif
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hi guy,

I booked viva 1000 for my first car, but then I found this thread. It seems savvy will be more suitable for me because.

1. FC wise, savvy is about the same a viva
2. savvy is more stable on highway.
3. more powerful engine
4. back seat can fold down to put my bicycle in (viva cant)
5. abt the same OTR price (savvy lite == viva 1.0 sx)

what I am pondering right now is
a. will the maintenance cost of savvy > viva?
b. I read so many complains abt the AMT gear box problem, so am thinking to go for the manual variant, but really like the idea of AMT. Is the 2008 AMT has most these gear problem fixed?

thanks.

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QUOTE(lkoky @ Aug 11 2008, 01:13 PM)
hi guy,

I booked viva 1000 for my first car, but then I found this thread. It seems savvy will be more suitable for me because.

1. FC wise, savvy is about the same a viva
2. savvy is more stable on highway.
3. more powerful engine
4. back seat can fold down to put my bicycle in (viva cant)
5. abt the same OTR price (savvy lite == viva 1.0 sx)

what I am pondering right now is
a. will the maintenance cost of savvy > viva?
b. I read so many complains abt the AMT gear box problem, so am thinking to go for the manual variant, but really like the idea of AMT. Is the 2008 AMT has most these gear problem fixed?

thanks.
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b. I read so many complains abt the AMT gear box problem, so am thinking to go for the manual variant, but really like the idea of AMT. Is the 2008 AMT has most these gear problem fixed?
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QUOTE(lkoky @ Aug 11 2008, 01:13 PM)
hi guy,

I booked viva 1000 for my first car, but then I found this thread. It seems savvy will be more suitable for me because.

1. FC wise, savvy is about the same a viva
2. savvy is more stable on highway.
3. more powerful engine
4. back seat can fold down to put my bicycle in (viva cant)
5. abt the same OTR price (savvy lite == viva 1.0 sx)

what I am pondering right now is
a. will the maintenance cost of savvy > viva?
b. I read so many complains abt the AMT gear box problem, so am thinking to go for the manual variant, but really like the idea of AMT. Is the 2008 AMT has most these gear problem fixed?

thanks.
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myvi driveshaft not just the cv head cost Rm1k while savvy and with the help of blm's EoS cost less than half of the amount...

The cosumables parts are cheap enough with so many localised parts -oil filters etc.

Go for the SAvvy MT if you're not adventurous- even the manual shifting is so good - much better than those nippon gearbox and both engine/gearbox should last you a life time..mine is over 70k km in less than 3 years - still going strong.


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bro u also so late niter one ar
anyway, want to reserve 1 magnet from u
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hi you still want? I wanna close the deal asap - lotsa people asking for it...reserve but never buy tongue.gif

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sorry bro.. still waiting for my savvy ler. but i still insist on getting it. cod?
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just came back from kl. demn ler.

i lenjan my car from kl - jb, my fc worst! cos i maintain speed around 140-170kmh! hahaha.

touchwood! hopefully no speedtrap. if not mampos. haha!

p/s: y the hell cant stand resistant from driving fast at hgway. sweat.gif
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noisy at high speed? did ur backside hurt after ur high speed event?


Added on August 13, 2008, 3:09 amhi guys. after waiting for 2.5 months.. really pissed off with proton. the original delivery timeframe is 1 month. my car is actually ready and sitting in the factory. the proton boys keep on delaying for no reason! feel like cancelling liao...sien.

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QUOTE(lj0000 @ Aug 12 2008, 11:24 PM)
noisy at high speed? did ur backside hurt after ur high speed event?


Added on August 13, 2008, 3:09 amhi guys. after waiting for 2.5 months.. really pissed off with proton. the original delivery timeframe is 1 month. my car is actually ready and sitting in the factory. the proton boys keep on delaying for no reason! feel like cancelling liao...sien.
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can u tell me where u book ur car? proton edar dealer or proton edar branch?
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QUOTE(lj0000 @ Aug 12 2008, 11:24 PM)
noisy at high speed? did ur backside hurt after ur high speed event?


Added on August 13, 2008, 3:09 amhi guys. after waiting for 2.5 months.. really pissed off with proton. the original delivery timeframe is 1 month. my car is actually ready and sitting in the factory. the proton boys keep on delaying for no reason! feel like cancelling liao...sien.
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noisy? definitely. engine sound louder (of cos! laugh.gif ) wind noise oso got. haih. sweat.gif but i turn my ice to volume 22. hehe.

backside hurt? no. just nice. hehehe.

aik. last time call i don care they said waiting time for new savvy is 3 months. uh. if i rmmbr it correctly.
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book at sinsiangheng. but all the same. controlled by proton themself regardless of where u book.

everyone can check using their 1300880888 system.
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anybody booked savvy with the merdeka promotion?

bout fc..
i think mine is 16 cent per km for urban..i can drive up to 500km with full tank..is this normal?

but then, the fuel indicator is inaccurate..

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that's good enough..mine is around 18 sen for urban, 14 sen highway.
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500km empty or left 1 bar? or 2 bar blinking?
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don't drive until the tank is totally empty.
the hazard light will automatically blink when the car is almost out of petrol.
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i noe. what i mean u guys manage to get 500km on empty tank or when it start blinking on 2 bar or last bar?
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running empty may damage ur fuel pump
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i ask lain u guys answer lain pulak. sweat.gif doh.gif shakehead.gif
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any of you guyz modify your savvy?
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what kind of modifications? aesthetic or performance?
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guys.. again. dont judge the fc by the meter. do use the full tank then top up method.

it is the official method used by aam in the nissan lightfoot challenge
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guys.. again. dont judge the fc by the meter. do use the full tank then top up method.

it is the official method used by aam in the nissan lightfoot challenge
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how far can ur savvy go when the fuel indicator start blinking?
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QUOTE(blackorange @ Aug 17 2008, 08:34 PM)
how far can ur savvy go when the fuel indicator start blinking?
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i ask the same question and this is what i got:

QUOTE(gary_cheah85 @ Aug 14 2008, 09:05 PM)
don't drive until the tank is totally empty.
the hazard light will automatically blink when the car is almost out of petrol.
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QUOTE(lj0000 @ Aug 15 2008, 01:16 PM)
running empty may damage ur fuel pump
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QUOTE(lj0000 @ Aug 17 2008, 12:00 AM)
guys.. again. dont judge the fc by the meter. do use the full tank then top up method.

it is the official method used by aam in the nissan lightfoot challenge
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doh.gif

i know la this method wont be accurate. cos we cant count how many km/liter. but at least can give some average information. i am quite confuse how on earth u guys get 500km on full tank. izzit when the tank really empty or izzit when the light start blinking?

mine when the tank start blinking (2 bars) i got around 400km+. by average i can see 1 bar can go around 80-90km (except 1st bar. max i can get around 50km on average). so theoretically, another 1 bar can bring me around 80km which is total full tank (6 bar) can get around 480km?

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QUOTE(death_nite @ Aug 17 2008, 10:40 PM)
i ask the same question and this is what i got:
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i know la this method wont be accurate. cos we cant count how many km/liter. but at least can give some average information. i am quite confuse how on earth u guys get 500km on full tank. izzit when the tank really empty or izzit when the light start blinking?

mine when the tank start blinking (2 bars) i got around 400km+. by average i can see 1 bar can go around 80-90km (except 1st bar. max i can get around 50km on average). so theoretically, another 1 bar can bring me around 80km which is total full tank (6 bar) can get around 480km?
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I managed to get nearly 550km from melaka to penang - a mix of tolled routes and federal roads on RM80 of fuel - of course not so accurate without full tank to full tank calculation method and driving with 1 bar blinking...but heck I sped more than 130-140 km/h on the final stretch of highway towards Juru..it's good enough already.

http://www.motortrader.com.my/asp/forum/to...whichpage=3#top


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how much u spent for the ccfl? mind to share?
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Added on August 18, 2008, 11:10 amthe Thai king's savvy..looks good in turqoise blue? gen.2 colours



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QUOTE(hazremi @ Aug 13 2008, 11:08 PM)
anybody booked savvy with the merdeka promotion?

bout fc..
i think mine is 16 cent per km for urban..i can drive up to 500km with full tank..is this normal?

but then, the fuel indicator is inaccurate..
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my sister booked the savvy Hi-Line for the merdeka promotion..

she ordered the new colour metallic white.. looks a little bit like the silver tho..

but haf to wait 1 month to get the car..
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new metalic white?? issit Metal Grey?
https://proton-edar.com.my/onlinebooking/in...=booking&car=22

when did u order?


Added on August 20, 2008, 12:10 amseems like there are new colors for savvy!

lite = black, white
m = black, blue, red, silver, green
h= silver, green, oren

y silver dun have black!!

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im not sure whether its this colour tho.. it might be.. but not sure.. but metal grey is a new colour oso issit???

anyways.. the car was booked either end of last month, or beginning of this month..


Added on August 20, 2008, 12:19 ami think its this colour.. its the same colour as the satria neo.. i think so.. not very sure..

http://proton-edar.com.my/onlinebooking/in...=booking&car=21

it looks like the first neo colour iridecent white if im not mistaken..

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metal grey is old colour actually, first batch savvy AMT (2005) already got very RARE - more of darker silver..

the hline silver is more towards white and light like what Lost123 said -> i prefer this colour, more cun.
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today called proton again.. they say my car is sold to ipoh dealer... furious!


Added on August 20, 2008, 12:45 amgrey is grey la.. i think its midnight grey
the h-line i got is the genetic silver. i think same color as the saga.



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today called proton again.. they say my car is sold to ipoh dealer... furious!

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really arrr??? so how??? u should go and scold them.. say u deserve sumthin free.. mebbe ask them to give u the petrol voucher coz of all the delay and trouble.. haha..
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sien.. delay me for 2.5 month for nothing... tmr call md again to demand somehting
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this is too much la..where got 2.5 months waiting game for cool (market wise and of course it's damn cool in outlook n performance) car like savvy.


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how and what shud i demand from proton?


Added on August 20, 2008, 2:59 ameh.. ur magnet still for sale meh? dang. missed it

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QUOTE(lj0000 @ Aug 20 2008, 02:55 AM)
how and what shud i demand from proton?


Added on August 20, 2008, 2:59 ameh.. ur magnet still for sale meh? dang. missed it
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u shud demand free petrol all bodykit etc etc for current promotion on savvy, and make sure they priority ur car. ask them u wanna car asap. icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(lj0000 @ Aug 20 2008, 12:44 AM)
today called proton again.. they say my car is sold to ipoh dealer... furious!

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This is normal la. I think got buyer in Ipod pay some kopi duit(RM1k~2k) to get the car without Q-up in the long list ma. Thats y tell u sold alr but gaining side money from other buyer. Where got company told u wait 1 mth but keep delay another week or month 1 right? Dishonest seller found again.

Last 7 years back,my dad also order a P.wira and get the same situation like u. The seller keep delay us which promise can get within 1 month before decide to buy. When call him, he will ask some buck (RM3k last time) vmad.gif mad.gif that no need Q but my dad decline. So he will let us wait and wait again. after 4mths passed and many calls make, 1 day my dad call with angry to tell him that "If I still cant see the car 2moro I will cut ur fingers down". lol..We have to do this cos we ask for refund he refuse wat. In next day we really get the car alr. rclxms.gif We need to take the car from other branch and the seller keep explain to my dad that really no car la,hard to find la, proton production slow la.....zZ.
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but this time... it came out from the md office people! not from the salesguy
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but this time... it came out from the md office people! not from the salesguy
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then u should voice it out to md la. try discuss with them properly. and ask wth they sell ur car to ipoh dealer. u hv been waiting for 2 half months. this is not blm or what. push them. make them feel guilty. yada yada. all depend on ur skill i guess. biggrin.gif
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they already feel very guilty... but cannot do anything...sad.gif
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they already feel very guilty... but cannot do anything...sad.gif
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just tell them that u deserve some free stuff.. mainly petrol voucher..

tell them how much trouble they caused u..

if they feel guilty already then they shud give u sum stuff so questions asked..
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the most they can give is the savvy promo...
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QUOTE(Benjamin1213 @ Aug 20 2008, 07:16 PM)
Anyone here up for after market extractor? 4-1 chrome piping. PM me if u guys plan to get one. I am getting mine soon, can sort of to get for u all.
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4-1??? Are you sure that is suitable for our Savvy? Even Hotbits came up with a 4-2-1 configuration. Where are you getting yours?
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Our stock extractor is 4-1..

what brand is that?

anyone have connection problem with savoc.net?
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savvy freebies ar...
not really worth a lot of money lo
oni the rm1000 petrol voucher is worth cash.
the rest... i dun really want an ah beng bodykit
the warranty extension is worth 300
and service worth 1000 (i got free service voucher from sinsianghin anyway)

total money worth to me is just rm1300.

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QUOTE(hypermount @ Aug 21 2008, 12:14 PM)
Our stock extractor is 4-1..

what brand is that?

anyone have connection problem with savoc.net?
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extractor tu apa bro hypermount?

QUOTE(lj0000 @ Aug 21 2008, 12:16 PM)
savvy freebies ar...
not really worth a lot of money lo
oni the rm1000 petrol voucher is worth cash.
the rest... i dun really want an ah beng bodykit
the warranty extension is worth 300
and service worth 1000 (i got free service voucher from sinsianghin anyway)

total money worth to me is just  rm1300.
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better than nothing. hehe. smile.gif just ask them to let u hv ur car asap.
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QUOTE(tesla_rage @ Aug 21 2008, 09:10 AM)
4-1??? Are you sure that is suitable for our Savvy? Even Hotbits came up with a 4-2-1 configuration. Where are you getting yours?
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Yeah, for sure it suits our car. Hotbits did 4-1 =) not 4-2-1, am getting mine from a exhaust shop here in USJ 1. Interested to join me? Can get cheaper if we are able to get more people.

QUOTE(hypermount @ Aug 21 2008, 12:14 PM)
Our stock extractor is 4-1..

what brand is that?

anyone have connection problem with savoc.net?
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I have confirmed with the exhaust shop it says its frm hotbits.


Price can be nego if we can get more people, results are satisfying. Anyone up for it?
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example of extractor
http://www.pmw.com.sg/product_images/extractor%20TS.jpg
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http://www.savoc.com.my/forum/index.php?topic=3984.0

woot! got good feedback from proton. i think i will fully register with savoc.com.my. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(tesla_rage @ Aug 21 2008, 09:10 AM)
4-1??? Are you sure that is suitable for our Savvy? Even Hotbits came up with a 4-2-1 configuration. Where are you getting yours?
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Sorry guys, I dont know what got into me when I posted that.

Stock extractor is 4-1, hotbits is also 4-1. So yea, getting an aftermarket extractor with 4-1 configuration will not have any issue tongue.gif

Sorry for any misunderstanding and 'what the hell?' tongue.gif
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How much is the price>? is it compatible with the stock exhaust's front section if buying the extractor only.
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newbie question : what is the size of savvy's wiper (front) ?
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QUOTE(evoHahn @ Aug 23 2008, 01:16 PM)
newbie question : what is the size of savvy's wiper (front) ?
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should 22/16.5

but then u cant find 16.5". either u use 16 or 17 inch one. biggrin.gif
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Eh why got savoc.net and savoc.com.my? Both the same?
Both using same logo....but I registered for one. But cant login to the other. Both different right?
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savoc.com.my is the official Fans club registered under Registrar.
savoc.net is the so-called unofficial fans club although their forum is much active.

currently both the clubs are joining forces to make a deal with Proton to improve their level of service on Savvy and many recurring problems.

BTW, both website requires separate logins.
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A small question.

Recently the occurance of 2nd gear jerk happened very frequently. It can be stopped by pull-over & restarting the engine. There're 2 ocurance of startup glitch which I have to turn the key longer to start the car. but not till the extend that I need to crank several time.

I've drove the car straight to service center & also Service dealer when the problem occured & they've told me.... that this kind of jerk although is "undesireable", it's "normal"......and unfortunately the have no solution yet for this problem????

So far I've claimed a brake pedal, brake switch & TDC sensor. The coil is ok according to them. Some senior technical staff even went to the Service Dealer & says all technical data shows no problem on my car.

Anything that I've missed?

And also I've claimed several units of Power Window Switch due to sporadic malfunction. When a new units installed the can last for several months before the swtich start to fail again.

Is the PW switch that fragile.....? I do suspect the vibration on the speaker caused the problem....

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engine shutter
http://www.savoc.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1897

power window switch.. hmm...mind using multimeter to check it out first? i mean the rosak one. sometimes just wd40 can clear it out.

most of all, do send an email to i.care cc zainal about this.
savoc.com.my is also collecting these evidences
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QUOTE(lj0000 @ Aug 24 2008, 02:16 PM)
engine shutter
http://www.savoc.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1897

power window switch.. hmm...mind using multimeter to check it out first? i mean the rosak one. sometimes just wd40 can clear it out.

most of all, do send an email to i.care cc zainal about this.
savoc.com.my is also collecting these evidences
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Thanks, I've already read all those article & I do think the only 3 things havent tried is ECU, wirings & throttle body.

The PW switched is new for now as warranty claim. It'll take sometime IF it wants to fail again. Someone posted the switch problem on savoc.net & I think it's due to speaker vibration.

The Sec13 PJ SC is less than helpful. I'm not willing to go back as after several attempt they still cannot give me a conclusion or even try to at least swap some parts to try except the brake pedal.

The inefficient procedure & "blame-on-customer" attitude pissed me off for this particular SC. They even asked me to warm up the car for 10mins.....I did & it failed.
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Any SC that is good in this jerking problem?
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Added on August 24, 2008, 3:09 pmi believe the pesc at glenmarie got some nice technicians there.
i did my test drive from the salesmen there and the gears are perfect. he mention that they got a bunch of great technicians who themselves drives savvy.

the location is at glenmarie, in between perodua and proche showroom.


Added on August 24, 2008, 3:22 pmmaneti mireli quickshift5
http://www.magnetimarelli.com/_modules/dow...wnload/PWT1.jpg

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QUOTE(navigator @ Aug 24 2008, 11:12 AM)
A small question.

Recently the occurance of 2nd gear jerk happened very frequently. It can be stopped by pull-over & restarting the engine. There're 2 ocurance of startup glitch which I have to turn the key longer to start the car. but not till the extend that I need to crank several time.

I've drove the car straight to service center & also Service dealer when the problem occured & they've told me.... that this kind of jerk although is "undesireable", it's "normal"......and unfortunately the have no solution yet for this problem????

So far I've claimed a brake pedal, brake switch & TDC sensor. The coil is ok according to them. Some senior technical staff even went to the Service Dealer & says all technical data shows no problem on my car.

Anything that I've missed?

And also I've claimed several units of Power Window Switch due to sporadic malfunction. When a new units installed the can last for several months before the swtich start to fail again.

Is the PW switch that fragile.....? I do suspect the vibration on the speaker caused the problem....
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It's not the TB..

Definitely it's caused by dirty TDC sensor..if out of warranty no need to change like me...just clean it.

http://www.savoc.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4552
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opps. mybad.. dint read plopely

hmm..he just changed his tdc wor.. maybe just bad connection?

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Hi all
made this draft banner. any artist here can beautify it? then maybe we print it as stickers wink.gif
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I got the idea from here, and maybe can copycat a bit
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Added on August 24, 2008, 4:40 pmkeep in mind the draft is made using ms powerpoint.. so dun complain so much ya.

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hi all! after reading a lot about savvy i think i'm pretty convinced to consider this car!

so i have a few question:

1. i'm a tall and heavy guy, around 185cm, am i suitable for this car?

2. backseat ok for people same height like me or not? i heard it's quite cramped and judging from the outlook i can imagine how small it is.

3. is the seat very low like wira or higher like most stardard cars?

the above 3 question will be answered instantly but i haven't got time to visit and test drive anyway so if you guys willing to answer my question i'd be really grateful. biggrin.gif



also more question about the car:

4. how much am i expecting for installment? i think i'll go for the hi-line, with maybe 8k~10k down payment. i never buy a car before, all the while i just drive an older wira owned by my parents.

5. any great deal of maintainence problem? for some reason i don't trust EON service due to some past experiences with my wira, i let those outside SC and they did really good job, problem free, although expensive a bit but really problem free.

6. i've saw advertisement over motor trader, that someone offered the AMT Hi-Line for only 35k, brand new but old stock of 07/08. is this ok to consider? although there're quite some great deal and promotions on savvy but i can save around 8k~9k if this old stock thing is safe to buy.

i really interested in the AMT Hi-Line, and heard quite a bit of good things of the AMT, advantage of having both auto transmission and manual transmission minus the cluth (although i'm a hardcore manual driver but since i drive a lot in city so why not treat my legs and hands good? laugh.gif). and due to the design, even in auto mode it won't be as thirsty as regular auto transmission right?

i'm also eyeing on the hyundai i10, they're currently bringing in the imported model in limited units, and then will start selling local assemble one. so maybe within this period has to make a decision sooner is possible. i really like the feel of i10's front/back seat, very specious and comfortable, and sitting up straight will make driving more concentrated. but if savvy is as good, of course i'd go for savvy for the transmission as well as the lower price and better fuel consumption. biggrin.gif

thanks in advanced all sifus... notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(little ice @ Aug 24 2008, 05:44 PM)
hi all! after reading a lot about savvy i think i'm pretty convinced to consider this car!

so i have a few question:

1. i'm a tall and heavy guy, around 185cm, am i suitable for this car?
- shd be ok

2. backseat ok for people same height like me or not? i heard it's quite cramped and judging from the outlook i can imagine how small it is.
- will have problem

3. is the seat very low like wira or higher like most stardard cars?
- low like most car. i10 is the van type tall seat.

the above 3 question will be answered instantly but i haven't got time to visit and test drive anyway so if you guys willing to answer my question i'd be really grateful. biggrin.gif
also more question about the car:

4. how much am i expecting for installment? i think i'll go for the hi-line, with maybe 8k~10k down payment. i never buy a car before, all the while i just drive an older wira owned by my parents.
- i got h-line as well. installment depend on how many years of loan. if got money pay more each month.
- make full use of the rm5k discount when u trade in ur old car. any old car, any age.

5. any great deal of maintainence problem? for some reason i don't trust EON service due to some past experiences with my wira, i let those outside SC and they did really good job, problem free, although expensive a bit but really problem free.
- look under savoc.net. shud be more or less the same as normal car.
- i dont trust eon as well. do look in savoc for advice on good sc in ur area.

6. i've saw advertisement over motor trader, that someone offered the AMT Hi-Line for only 35k, brand new but old stock of 07/08. is this ok to consider? although there're quite some great deal and promotions on savvy but i can save around 8k~9k if this old stock thing is safe to buy.
- those are pre-registered car, if not mistaken. considered as 2nd hand, but never driven.

i really interested in the AMT Hi-Line, and heard quite a bit of good things of the AMT, advantage of having both auto transmission and manual transmission minus the cluth (although i'm a hardcore manual driver but since i drive a lot in city so why not treat my legs and hands good? laugh.gif). and due to the design, even in auto mode it won't be as thirsty as regular auto transmission right?
- manual and automode is the same consumption, as the auto is not normal auto. there are no torque converter.
- i drive a auto. longing to drive a manual but too lazy. thats y i choose a savvy.

i'm also eyeing on the hyundai i10, they're currently bringing in the imported model in limited units, and then will start selling local assemble one. so maybe within this period has to make a decision sooner is possible. i really like the feel of i10's front/back seat, very specious and comfortable, and sitting up straight will make driving more concentrated. but if savvy is as good, of course i'd go for savvy for the transmission as well as the lower price and better fuel consumption. biggrin.gif
- do try out the i10. its a good contender, but its a tall car so its wobby at high speed.
- u will fit very well in i10. designed for tall person.
- i10 is imported from india


thanks in advanced all sifus... notworthy.gif
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lj0000 great reply!! many thanks for all the infos! notworthy.gif

i think i should really go test drive haha!

yeah i think those car i mentioned with cheaper price should be pre-registered car, so they're probably ready to drive. maybe i'll consider this also. happy.gif

thanks for the info of the savoc.net! looks like there're tons of informations there!

as for i10, i'm aware of the tall body too, while i like how i can sit tall and straight, i'm so used to the wira super low body and i do love to do cornering with higher speed sometimes. also i'm leaning towards the AMT than full AT anyway and speaking of FC, savvy should perform even better!

one thing i don't like about the i10 is the seems-to-be false advertisement. savvy also has reinforced body like i10. and lastly the backseat is not much of a problem as i mostly intented to buy a car for 2 person only, and only once in a while fetch friends/family but almost never 5 ppl lo. but if it's not because of the tall body that i can drive comfortably, i already consider savvy very early.

i'll test drive it asap when i'm free and will report back. biggrin.gif

PS: i really like the white or black paint or even the blue is really nice, but the AMT Hi-Line doesn't seems to offer such colour? doh.gif

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QUOTE(little ice @ Aug 24 2008, 09:42 PM)
lj0000 great reply!! many thanks for all the infos! notworthy.gif

i think i should really go test drive haha!

yeah i think those car i mentioned with cheaper price should be pre-registered car, so they're probably ready to drive. maybe i'll consider this also. happy.gif

thanks for the info of the savoc.net! looks like there're tons of informations there!
do check out cari.com.my, motortrader, and savoc.com.my

as for i10, i'm aware of the tall body too, while i like how i can sit tall and straight, i'm so used to the wira super low body and i do love to do cornering with higher speed sometimes. also i'm leaning towards the AMT than full AT anyway and speaking of FC, savvy should perform even better!

one thing i don't like about the i10 is the seems-to-be false advertisement. savvy also has reinforced body like i10. and lastly the backseat is not much of a problem as i mostly intented to buy a car for 2 person only, and only once in a while fetch friends/family but almost never 5 ppl lo. but if it's not because of the tall body that i can drive comfortably, i already consider savvy very early.

i'll test drive it asap when i'm free and will report back. biggrin.gif
if want, do book fast, as the freebies promo ends tomorrow

PS: i really like the white or black paint or even the blue is really nice, but the AMT Hi-Line doesn't seems to offer such colour? doh.gif

i did complain to proton abt this as well.
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Added on August 24, 2008, 10:02 pm
QUOTE(little ice @ Aug 24 2008, 09:42 PM)
lj0000 great reply!! many thanks for all the infos! notworthy.gif

i think i should really go test drive haha!

yeah i think those car i mentioned with cheaper price should be pre-registered car, so they're probably ready to drive. maybe i'll consider this also. happy.gif

thanks for the info of the savoc.net! looks like there're tons of informations there!
do check out cari.com.my, motortrader, and savoc.com.my

as for i10, i'm aware of the tall body too, while i like how i can sit tall and straight, i'm so used to the wira super low body and i do love to do cornering with higher speed sometimes. also i'm leaning towards the AMT than full AT anyway and speaking of FC, savvy should perform even better!

one thing i don't like about the i10 is the seems-to-be false advertisement. savvy also has reinforced body like i10. and lastly the backseat is not much of a problem as i mostly intented to buy a car for 2 person only, and only once in a while fetch friends/family but almost never 5 ppl lo. but if it's not because of the tall body that i can drive comfortably, i already consider savvy very early.

i'll test drive it asap when i'm free and will report back. biggrin.gif
if want, do book fast, as the freebies promo ends tomorrow

PS: i really like the white or black paint or even the blue is really nice, but the AMT Hi-Line doesn't seems to offer such colour? doh.gif

i did complain to proton abt this as well.
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Added on August 24, 2008, 10:13 pmhttp://paultan.org/archives/2008/08/01/proton-savvy-unbelievable-deal-worth-rm4500/

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damn why am i discovering this promotion so late... doh.gif

but i want the white with hi-line spec lar, see if can talk to them about this... sad.gif

so by grabbing this promotion, i'm expecting the retail price right? (around 45k for solid paint or slightly more for metallic paint)

or maybe i also visit the pre-registered one and see what's the deal. happy.gif
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i think its best to get new car lo. anyway, not so long ago, proton themself promotes the 2007 model at 7k discount.


Added on August 24, 2008, 11:25 pmso the 10k discount is not really a lot


Added on August 24, 2008, 11:28 pmanother thing... be prepared to wait.
i am on almost 3 month waiting list

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between a supercharger and a turbocharger, which one would you guys bolt onto the savvy if u guys had the money, and chance to do so?

and why?
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Of course it's turbo, less complicated and it's putting less strain on the engine as supercharger turbine is driven by engine.


love another savvy fan club from thais..
http://www.loveproton.com/

I'll be writing a brief comparison writeups between savvy, i10, swift, kenari, kelisa, gen.2 and wira.
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QUOTE(hypermount @ Aug 24 2008, 04:00 PM)
It's not the TB..

Definitely it's caused by dirty TDC sensor..if out of warranty no need to change like me...just clean it.

http://www.savoc.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4552
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The car still under warranty so shouldn't be a problem. the sensor is not dirty (no rust on it's tip surface) when removed.

I'm not convinced as a connection problem as they've also replaced the blue shunt cable along with the sensor.... I've seen they connect the cable using a contraction tube (the tube holds the cable when heated, not sure what's it's name.)

Could it be a faulty sonsor again..? or as they said, savvy will jerk like this sporadically?????

QUOTE(lj0000 @ Aug 24 2008, 04:09 PM)
opps. mybad.. dint read plopely

hmm..he just changed his tdc wor.. maybe just bad connection?
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yesterday I tried to rearrange most of the reacheable conenctions & cabling. See if it helps.... sweat.gif
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ah confirm the installation was not done properly...connection issue if it's like that. It should be free of jerking (2nd gear for that TDC sensor problem)...

crimping is not enough, should solder between wires for proper connection..I think you should ask the SC to relook into the matter.

that is heat shrink tubing, you'll see it alot when installing electronic devices...I found using hair dryer should be sufficient it it's hot enough to heat it then let it cool to shrink..but a heat gun is better.
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hi all! didn't manage to test drive the savvy today and the promotion is over. sweat.gif

it was a busy day today, can't manage to squeeze out an hour for the test drive. i'll keep my wira at the moment first la, no commitment also just the car quite thirsty only 1ltr/10km (i know got more thirsty car but the fuel price is a little burden for me).

love to join the club and i'm pretty looking forward to savvy, maybe will ask the pre-registered one and see, at least already know the condition and can test drive before hand out the money. smile.gif

hypermount, where you'll post your comparison article? i'd really interested in the i10 vs savvy. icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(hypermount @ Aug 25 2008, 07:33 PM)
that is heat shrink tubing, you'll see it alot when installing electronic devices...I found using hair dryer should be sufficient it it's hot enough to heat it then let it cool to shrink..but a heat gun is better.
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They used a lighter to heat that thing up.... hmm.gif

after rearrange cabling so far no recurrances.

I also sent a complaint letter regarding my dissatisfaction to Sec13 SC to i-care.

They blamed me for NOT-WARMING-UP-MY-CAR + Send to Service dealer to service~! doh.gif
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QUOTE(navigator @ Aug 27 2008, 06:57 AM)
They used a lighter to heat that thing up.... hmm.gif

after rearrange cabling so far no recurrances.

I also sent a complaint letter regarding my dissatisfaction to Sec13 SC to i-care.

They blamed me for NOT-WARMING-UP-MY-CAR + Send to Service dealer to service~! doh.gif
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who blame u? they didn't listen to fly.fm ke? or any other radio station?

got proton advert ask us no need to warm up our car unless we driving at alaska sort of. doh.gif just drive slowly ler. sweat.gif
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eh all amt players. did anyone register with savoc.com.my?
they are consolidating all the problematic amts.
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QUOTE(little ice @ Aug 25 2008, 09:12 PM)
hi all! didn't manage to test drive the savvy today and the promotion is over. sweat.gif

it was a busy day today, can't manage to squeeze out an hour for the test drive. i'll keep my wira at the moment first la, no commitment also just the car quite thirsty only 1ltr/10km (i know got more thirsty car but the fuel price is a little burden for me).

love to join the club and i'm pretty looking forward to savvy, maybe will ask the pre-registered one and see, at least already know the condition and can test drive before hand out the money. smile.gif

hypermount, where you'll post your comparison article? i'd really interested in the i10 vs savvy. icon_idea.gif
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Not a complete comparison, just how was the seat height and drive experience..

there' san articles somewhere I posted in this thread..






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who blame u? they didn't listen to fly.fm ke? or any other radio station?

got proton advert ask us no need to warm up our car unless we driving at alaska sort of. doh.gif just drive slowly ler. sweat.gif
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Good question.

The Service Advisor at Sec13 SC. However, as he's senior staff here. I will not disclose his name for now. Unles a lot of ppl demanding it...
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Good question.

The Service Advisor at Sec13 SC. However, as he's senior staff here. I will not disclose his name for now. Unles a lot of ppl demanding it...
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laugh.gif buat malu je la. work at sc but donno sc own advertisement.

btw, what engine oil brand good for savvy? that at least can give better mileage? cos i read that diff brand can give diff mileage? with same oil rating la. unsure.gif
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go for fully synthetic oil...
RM160 for 10k is like RM80 semi for 5 k - the cost about the same...

smoother and more power - proven with dyno from the net...
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go for fully synthetic oil...
RM160 for 10k is like RM80 semi for 5 k - the cost about the same...

smoother and more power - proven with dyno from the net...
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what abt brand? any recommendation? smile.gif
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My jerking problem start again....

Means the cable re-arrangement don't work.

both SC & dealer said there's no error recorded and yet all value very stable.

One of the Senior technical support said all savvy actually suffering from the problem and the jerk is not like TDC, coil & TB.

it's just that a minor power loss between 1000 to 2000rpm sporadically after an engine start. My actually so called hard to start is just I need to turn the key longer than usual & not the extend that need several crank.

They blamed on the ECU or it's relavant engine start initialization SW which is yet to solve.

Now my question is, ARE THESE PPL TALKING TRUTH????
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QUOTE(navigator @ Sep 1 2008, 08:14 AM)
My jerking problem start again....

Means the cable re-arrangement don't work.

both SC & dealer said there's no error recorded and yet all value very stable.

One of the Senior technical support said all savvy actually suffering from the problem and the jerk is not like TDC, coil & TB.

it's just that a minor power loss between 1000 to 2000rpm sporadically after an engine start. My actually so called hard to start is just I need to turn the key longer than usual & not the extend that need several crank.

They blamed on the ECU or it's relavant engine start initialization SW which is yet to solve.

Now my question is, ARE THESE PPL TALKING TRUTH????
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how bad is ur jerking? happened all the time within 1k - 2k rpm? or happened when changing gear only? the latter one quite normal to me. especially if i use manual mode, can feel jerk if i didnt press throttle n change to gear 2. if didnt release throttle a bit, changing gear is smooth.

hurm. u should try find any amt user n compare with ur car. ok or not. well, mine doesnt hv any jerking probs like u mention above. got one time but due to my bro forgot to tight the hose connected with the tb, causing water sipping thru it. sad.gif

got warranty? if they blame ecu, cannot ask them change new one?

if possible try find any amt user u know. compare. bring to sc. show them they are wrong.
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QUOTE(navigator @ Sep 1 2008, 08:14 AM)
My jerking problem start again....

Means the cable re-arrangement don't work.

both SC & dealer said there's no error recorded and yet all value very stable.

One of the Senior technical support said all savvy actually suffering from the problem and the jerk is not like TDC, coil & TB.

it's just that a minor power loss between 1000 to 2000rpm sporadically after an engine start. My actually so called hard to start is just I need to turn the key longer than usual & not the extend that need several crank.

They blamed on the ECU or it's relavant engine start initialization SW which is yet to solve.

Now my question is, ARE THESE PPL TALKING TRUTH????
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time for u to visit RS auto or renautech...
i sent my car to rs auto.. no longer problem with hard to start the engine and the jerky problem...

they will modify the TDC sensor, clean the throttle.. worst case scenario.. have to change the ignition coil. thumbup.gif

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also worth mentioning, a guy in shah alam is also quite experienced in savvy. the last time i checked with him, he got ready stock of the coils, tdc sensor etc.

he is at jalan badminton, near giant stadium shah alam
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QUOTE(lj0000 @ Sep 2 2008, 07:12 PM)
also worth mentioning, a guy in shah alam is also quite experienced in savvy. the last time i checked with him, he got ready stock of the coils, tdc sensor etc.

he is at  jalan badminton, near giant stadium shah alam
016 211 3185.
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good information there.. easy for me to send my car if got probs. actually facing a prob. my 'monkey' cant think properly. sometimes i press the pedal mu car wont go further. like loss of power and sometimes the gear havent shift to the next gear (usually gear 2 to 3, 3 to 4) even exceed 3k rpm alrdy sweat.gif sweat.gif
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wow.. the mechanic show me.. even small problem can lead to catastrophic cases:

case 1 - leaky radiator cause overheat - burnt the gaskets - proton no stock to replace for 1 year sitting at workshop (not his shop)

case 2 - leaky reservior for amt oil. manufacturing fault i think as the crack doesnt seem from force. but the real problem is at the drain plugs at the oilpan ( i think) leak until the amt cant work, cant change gear and the amt light on. just double seal the leak solved the case

i dint know this guy can fix so many thing until i chat with him abt savvy and he start pulling spareparts from under his table to show me smile.gif
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QUOTE(lj0000 @ Sep 3 2008, 01:27 AM)
wow.. the mechanic show me.. even small problem can lead to catastrophic cases:

case 1 - leaky radiator cause overheat - burnt the gaskets - proton no stock to replace for 1 year sitting at workshop (not his shop)

case 2 - leaky reservior for amt oil. manufacturing fault i think as the crack doesnt seem from force. but the real problem is at the drain plugs at the oilpan ( i think) leak until the amt cant work, cant change gear and the amt light on. just double seal the leak solved the case

i dint know this guy can fix so many thing until i chat with him abt savvy and he start pulling spareparts from under his table to show me smile.gif
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i think the base thing to troubleshoot a car is the basics. mechanics use some logic in troubleshooting. and so far this guy fully use this to his advantage. and with some modification skills..no car is too difficult to troubleshoot.
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how bad is ur jerking? happened all the time within 1k - 2k rpm? or happened when changing gear only? the latter one quite normal to me. especially if i use manual mode, can feel jerk if i didnt press throttle n change to gear 2. if didnt release throttle a bit, changing gear is smooth.

hurm. u should try find any amt user n compare with ur car. ok or not. well, mine doesnt hv any jerking probs like u mention above. got one time but due to my bro forgot to tight the hose connected with the tb, causing water sipping thru it. sad.gif

got warranty? if they blame ecu, cannot ask them change new one?

if possible try find any amt user u know. compare. bring to sc. show them they are wrong.
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My jerking is not that bad. just it's a bit shaky shake when accelerating lelow 2000rpm. Something like out-of-tuned 130Y..... but stil not that serious...doh.gif

Restart car then problem solved.

When I doubt SC's comment, they brought me another Savvy which supposedly belongs to The Branch Manager. I'm not convinced & they bring me the i-care car....They're all with this kinda shaky feel like my car but one thing is worse than mine is restart did not solve the problem for those car and the jerk is persistant..... doh.gif

Well....I'll try to do a TB clean on next service. At this moment I just used a sealant to seal the "suspected" wirings. See if it happens again.

They said Change ECU is pointless as theer's no new revision nor new softwaer to solve the prob.

They also pointed out Valve seat in the engine itself might be a problem as Proton never clean the protective wax on the seat when manufacturing the car. This problem do not occure on newer batch of savvy.

They also said that only frequent user such as sales person or someone lked to travel with his car will noticed that as the problem is very sporadic.

Let's try to ask then clean the TB before other speculation....

btw, how much is Renautech to clean the TB??? Can they read any hidden troublecode? T shaped PDT2000 cannot read hidden code while nre PDT2000Plus used by my Service Daeler can somehow read hidden codes based on my previous experience.

I do not wish to modify the TDC sensor.....coz they're new design.... sweat.gif

Also if TDC sensor fault wil have some sort of trouble code right? My previous sensor do have such error + Brake switch error. But this time w/o error.... doh.gif

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My jerking is not that bad. just it's a bit shaky shake when accelerating lelow 2000rpm. Something like out-of-tuned 130Y..... but stil not that serious...doh.gif

Restart car then problem solved.

When I doubt SC's comment, they brought me another Savvy which supposedly belongs to The Branch Manager. I'm not convinced & they bring me the i-care car....They're all with this kinda shaky feel like my car but one thing is worse than mine is restart did not solve the problem for those car and the jerk is persistant..... doh.gif

Well....I'll try to do a TB clean on next service. At this moment I just used a sealant to seal the "suspected" wirings. See if it happens again.

They said Change ECU is pointless as theer's no new revision nor new softwaer to solve the prob.

They also pointed out Valve seat in the engine itself might be a problem as Proton never clean the protective wax on the seat when manufacturing the car. This problem do not occure on newer batch of savvy.

They also said that only frequent user such as sales person or someone lked to travel with his car will noticed that as the problem is very sporadic.

Let's try to ask then clean the TB before other speculation....

btw, how much is Renautech to clean the TB??? Can they read any hidden troublecode? T shaped PDT2000 cannot read hidden code while nre PDT2000Plus used by my Service Daeler can somehow read hidden codes based on my previous experience.

I do not wish to modify the TDC sensor.....coz they're new design.... sweat.gif

Also if TDC sensor fault wil have some sort of trouble code right? My previous sensor do have such error + Brake switch error. But this time w/o error.... doh.gif
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Does it jerk only when it's below 2000 rpm on 2nd gear?...if it is then it's the TDC sensor bring dirty...try to clean it yourself with the guide I posted on first page and clean the connector and ECU also..


Added on September 3, 2008, 9:26 amwow what a weekend guys..savvy driven by DPM and e-savvy now?

got pics of the red savvy driven by the DPM?


Added on September 3, 2008, 2:56 pmgetting this...won the bid at dirt cheap price..

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Does it jerk only when it's below 2000 rpm on 2nd gear?...if it is then it's the TDC sensor bring dirty...try to clean it yourself with the guide I posted on first page and clean the connector and ECU also..


Added on September 3, 2008, 9:26 amwow what a weekend guys..savvy driven by DPM and e-savvy now?

got pics of the red savvy driven by the DPM?


Added on September 3, 2008, 2:56 pmgetting this...won the bid at dirt cheap price..

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My dealer will clean the TB for me tomorrow.

According to his statement, the TDC sensor and all other engine sensor reading is within spec even when driving....

So let's see if he's assumption is true...

My car's an AMT.... i dare not do it myself given that I seen how messy it is when dealing with TDC sensor beside the pump doh.gif
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sorry interrupting u guys..

my AMT savvy gonna be 10K anytime soon. just wondering, what its kindda like for 10K service ? any major replacement that cause major RM$?

thanks
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no interrupt, interupt request to make this thread hot is most welcome..

10k just a minor service, oil and filter change.

savvy in thailand..
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My dealer will clean the TB for me tomorrow.

According to his statement, the TDC sensor and all other engine sensor reading is within spec even when driving....

So let's see if he's assumption is true...

My car's an AMT.... i dare not do it myself given that I seen how messy it is when dealing with TDC sensor beside the pump doh.gif
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ahh hard to start can be caused by dirty throttle body also...

if you take out the TB and see the butterfly valve gap, it's very small...and this small gap throttles the engine at constant 2000 RPM if you install back the TB without hooking up the wire connector (since ours is throttle by wire type)!..so dirt, gunk, carbon could affect the starting, and idling... at usual idling 900 (hot), 1200 (cold) - the valve will close the already small gap further - that's why must clean TB at times.


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the original HU i saw during the technology day even got a steering remote control wire.

its a 2 wire system, and the remote is based on resistance. for example, hitting 27k means vol up.


hey..when installing my new hu, I found out there's 2 extra pins unused on the stock clarion HU, from the cable connector only 4 wires - there are 6 pins on the HU.. wires are ground, 12V battery, remote/acc wire and illumination trigger..and the other 2 function??

there is pin 1 and 5 on the HU, but no wires from the connector.

sequence from 1 from top to down, left to right

based on the clarion website
http://www.clarionworld.co.uk/stock/iso.asp

pin 1 = various??? / steering remote? or aux in..

pin 5 = auto aeriel, we don't have this..

+12v
Battery= live wire

+12v
Ignition = not at ignition, can be trigger at acc already/ and for remote functiom..


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pardon me for interrupting... does anyone know about proton's 3 days balik kampung deal?
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pardon me for interrupting... does anyone know about proton's 3 days balik kampung deal?
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ya i was looking to change my car recently and once this advert is on quickly i've contact the proton edar sales person in glenmarie. i booked my Savvy today with a 7k discount, however its a 07' model. Hopefully they got stock on this and could deliver before raya as according to the advertistment.
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ic.. looking for savvy to. missed last time bodykit and fuel coupon promotion. proton still have savvy 2007 model eh?
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still got 07 stock??? unregistered ones??? wow
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bout this im not sure. but according to my colleague he always pass by tanjung malim. and he say da savvy berlambak stock there. saying savvy no one buy crap car sad.gif
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Added on September 6, 2008, 11:59 am
ahh hard to start can be caused by dirty throttle body also...

if you take out the TB and see the butterfly valve gap, it's very small...and this small gap throttles the engine at constant 2000 RPM if you install back the TB without hooking up the wire connector (since ours is throttle by wire type)!..so dirt, gunk, carbon could affect the starting, and idling... at usual idling 900 (hot), 1200 (cold) - the valve will close the already small gap further - that's why must clean TB at times.


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My SD don wanna do so coz they hv to charge me for the cleaning initially..... doh.gif I'm not going back to the SD for sure.

It looks promising now, but one thing funny is it cannot start initially after the TB is cleaned... only full throttle start works at that initial start. sweat.gif


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saying savvy no one buy crap car  sad.gif
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if anyone say this infront of me i sure tarok him kau kau. vmad.gif

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im not experience in this. but for the 1st few xxx km i should go to the proton service center rite? after how many km or how many years ony i can find outside mechanic? and for spare parts and so on, izzit easy to find for savvy now days. really wanna drive dis savvy for a long long time. afraid it wouldnt last as long as my 10 years old kancil tongue.gif

Wanted to get Myvi initially but it seems kinda expensive. As for Viva it seems over priced. da metals like so fragile.
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already go to proton dealership to book one savvy... salesman said savvy 2007 already out of stock.. but he'll try to double check.

i confuse which one is 07 model? is it the same look as the first model? i mean the one that look like waja front from the back? if that one then i might want to get new model instead.
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zurggie u booked to? u went to dealer or u went to branch?
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branch... i guess.. LOL. What the difference anyway? It's not for me by the way. It's for my gf. Oh.. the salesman say i got rm6k discount for balik kampung deal. not 7k as u mention. Difference promotion between branch?

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My SD don wanna do so coz they hv to charge me for the cleaning initially..... doh.gif  I'm not going back to the SD for sure.

It looks promising now, but one thing funny is it cannot start initially after the TB is cleaned... only full throttle start works at that initial start. sweat.gif


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if anyone say this infront of me i sure tarok him kau kau. vmad.gif
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The car jerk again....aih...

I already emailed renautech to see if I can get something from him.

Will update again
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branch... i guess.. LOL. What the difference anyway? It's not for me by the way. It's for my gf. Oh.. the salesman say i got rm6k discount for balik kampung deal. not 7k as u mention. Difference promotion between branch?
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alamak he give u the least discount. my Sales Assistant show me the promo paper. its 6k - 7k. so its up to them when it comes to discount. lucky i know da price since i told him i saw in forum 7k then he give me 7k liao. As for stock im also quite afraid they wudnt have but then think again, if they wudnt have stock for it, would they put on such promotion? Branch and dealer alot difference. If branch they can get more stock and they can request stock from other branches. I'll call him up and enquire. did your SA told you that if there is no stock you can get back your booking money?
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QUOTE(zurggie @ Sep 7 2008, 03:58 PM)
already go to proton dealership to book one savvy... salesman said savvy 2007 already out of stock.. but he'll try to double check.

i confuse which one is 07 model? is it the same look as the first model? i mean the one that look like waja front from the back? if that one then i might want to get new model instead.
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07 is new one. no waja front at back. 07 also known as facelift edition. latest design.

08 one, the diff is, it use proton monochrome emblem which look so cool! wub.gif

QUOTE(navigator @ Sep 7 2008, 10:32 PM)
The car jerk again....aih...

I already emailed renautech to see if I can get something from him.

Will update again
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did any of you encountered this after changed most of the parts???

A power loss below 2000rpm & feels like a minor jerk but not stalling.

Happens between engine startups. means also if I pull over & restart engine the problem gone.

Just wonder...how many ppl got this problem? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(navigator @ Sep 8 2008, 09:44 AM)
did any of you encountered this after changed most of the parts???

A power loss below 2000rpm & feels like a minor jerk but not stalling.

Happens between engine startups. means also if I pull over & restart engine the problem gone.

Just wonder...how many ppl got this problem? hmm.gif
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It's the TDC sensor, either the cleaning or installation process were not done correctly..

happened to me twice in the span of 6 months..cleaned it and solved..still using the old type with the black connector.
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[quote=hypermount,Sep 6 2008, 11:50 AM]
no interrupt, interupt request to make this thread hot is most welcome..

10k just a minor service, oil and filter change.

Thanks bro for the info.. gonna service my savvy anytime now.. thanks again thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(kidmad @ Sep 8 2008, 06:53 AM)
alamak he give u the least discount. my Sales Assistant show me the promo paper. its 6k - 7k. so its up to them when it comes to discount. lucky i know da price since i told him i saw in forum 7k then he give me 7k liao. As for stock im also quite afraid they wudnt have but then think again, if they wudnt have stock for it, would they put on such promotion? Branch and dealer alot difference. If branch they can get more stock and they can request stock from other branches. I'll call him up and enquire. did your SA told you that if there is no stock you can get back your booking money?
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oh.. there's a promo paper? blink.gif blink.gif he didn't show me any.. ya.. if there's no stock or i want to cancel it, he can return the money. he also tell me that the body kit and petrol coupon promo still available since they haven't received any memo from proton. is this true?

QUOTE(death_nite @ Sep 8 2008, 08:45 AM)
07 is new one. no waja front at back. 07 also known as facelift edition. latest design.

08 one, the diff is, it use proton monochrome emblem which look so cool! wub.gif
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well.. i also like the monochrome emblem.. can't we just replace it? tongue.gif

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QUOTE(hypermount @ Sep 8 2008, 10:17 AM)
It's the TDC sensor, either the cleaning or installation process were not done correctly..

happened to me twice in the span of 6 months..cleaned it and solved..still using the old type with the black connector.
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They insisted that they've rearranged the cables...... & cleaned them....

I think they wont do soldering like renautech lah...that one hv to wait till warranty gone then send to ranautech....
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QUOTE(zurggie @ Sep 8 2008, 04:10 PM)
oh.. there's a promo paper?  blink.gif  blink.gif  he didn't show me any.. ya.. if there's no stock or i want to cancel it, he can return the money. he also tell me that the body kit and petrol coupon promo still available since they haven't received any memo from proton. is this true?
well.. i also like the monochrome emblem.. can't we just replace it? tongue.gif
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ya he show me the paper. the bodykit and petrol voucher i think end d. end at 31st august 2008.
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QUOTE(navigator @ Sep 8 2008, 05:03 PM)
They insisted that they've rearranged the cables...... & cleaned them....

I think they wont do soldering like renautech lah...that one hv to wait till warranty gone then send to ranautech....
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I got reply from renautech already....

Their reply to me is same to proton...

It's not sensor related & they do not have a solution yet either...... rclxub.gif

But differ from what proton says is to renautech, this happened to AMT only while proton says both transmission will have same problem..... rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(zurggie @ Sep 8 2008, 04:10 PM)
oh.. there's a promo paper?  blink.gif  blink.gif  he didn't show me any.. ya.. if there's no stock or i want to cancel it, he can return the money. he also tell me that the body kit and petrol coupon promo still available since they haven't received any memo from proton. is this true?
well.. i also like the monochrome emblem.. can't we just replace it? tongue.gif
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can can. if got money can change. laugh.gif
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today just saw that the savvy promo is extended till end of sept! so those goyang goyang dunno want to book or not better act fast!

i think no point getting the 2007 stock, because 2008 stock got
- 5 year warranty
- less problem as proton rectify most of it (think tdc sensor)
- face value also higher when u resale
- now the promo is worth around 2-3k anyway. (free service, free petrol)


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Yupe. The promotion is extended to end of September. Might just book one for myself by the end of this month, since I see alot of good feebacks from you all. Btw, I have been hunting for car to test drive for almost 2 months but couldnt find any so far. I might be dropping by the Proton Show room along NKVE cause I saw the group of fancy Savvys are back from their road show. I missed the roadshow and all the Savvys were not around for test drive the last time I went there.

But the was I think I will go for the Metal Gray... Looks cool

Oh oh I almost forgot... I was at a dealers in Kelana Jaya just next to that second hand shop... they guy told me that if I get the car from him M-LIne, he could install the following for me for a small sum of RM1.8k
1) Tinting with safety protection (things could not puncture through your tint)
2) Reverse Sensor
3) Security Lock (by locking the brake pedal)
4) Auto Central Lock when you hit the brakes after you have started the car.

I think its a very good deal there... smile.gif
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now almost all showrooms got test drive car.

m-line
tinting... can do outside anytime
reverse sensor very cheap at brothers
security lock - can get at brothers very cheap also
auto central lock - some mod required.

overall i think its not worth it. sommore, seems like the electronics in savvy is very sensitive. better not to mod too much unless u want to void the warranty, or there is no warranty at all.
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yup don't want to dampen your mood but the brake lock can be done cheaply outside at least RM50 with a nice switch..MT should be fine to do that while AMT is a bit complicated since the AMT system is also wired to the brake pedal, but I've seen many AMT users done this mod w/o any problem.

and I thought reverse sensor is standard for all savys?
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hyper.. what have u done to ur ice? any pic to show?
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QUOTE(navigator @ Sep 8 2008, 05:17 PM)
I got reply from renautech already....

Their reply to me is same to proton...

It's not sensor related & they do not have a solution yet either...... rclxub.gif

But differ from what proton says is to renautech, this happened to AMT only while proton says both transmission will have same problem..... rclxub.gif
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Hi you can try to PM MOHA774 in savoc.net...he cleaned the wiring harness from the sensor to the ecu and the problem solved..slow crank, hard to start I insist it has something to do with the TDC sensor tongue.gif ..
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QUOTE(hypermount @ Sep 9 2008, 02:25 AM)
Hi you can try to PM MOHA774 in savoc.net...he cleaned the wiring harness from the sensor to the ecu and the problem solved..slow crank, hard to start I insist it has something to do with the TDC sensor  tongue.gif ..
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They also insist that the startup is not "hard to start" where the car crank several time & still cannot start....

ah...maybe...proton talkingthe truth, D4F is having this problem.....

Even reputable Renautech already said so...what else can I say...all sensor value no problem..... doh.gif
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QUOTE(pseudo @ Sep 9 2008, 01:20 AM)
Yupe. The promotion is extended to end of September. Might just book one for myself by the end of this month, since I see alot of good feebacks from you all. Btw, I have been hunting for car to test drive for almost 2 months but couldnt find any so far. I might be dropping by the Proton Show room along NKVE cause I saw the group of fancy Savvys are back from their road show. I missed the roadshow and all the Savvys were not around for test drive the last time I went there.

But the was I think I will go for the Metal Gray... Looks cool

Oh oh I almost forgot... I was at a dealers in Kelana Jaya just next to that second hand shop... they guy told me that if I get the car from him M-LIne, he could install the following for me for a small sum of RM1.8k
1) Tinting with safety protection (things could not puncture through your tint)
2) Reverse Sensor
3) Security Lock (by locking the brake pedal)
4) Auto Central Lock when you hit the brakes after you have started the car.

I think its a very good deal there... smile.gif
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m-line edy got reverse sensor why need to add more? sweat.gif

diff within hi-line n m-line is the first got abs, airbag. thats all i guess. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(navigator @ Sep 9 2008, 07:14 AM)
They also insist that the startup is not "hard to start" where the car crank several time & still cannot start....

ah...maybe...proton talkingthe truth, D4F is having this problem.....

Even reputable Renautech already said so...what else can I say...all sensor value no problem..... doh.gif
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hyper.. what have u done to ur ice? any pic to show?
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the promotion extended? great!! rclxms.gif rclxms.gif my SA said he can't find any 2007 stock. so i just proceed to book new model with body kit and monochrome emblem.. wub.gif wub.gif
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QUOTE(zurggie @ Sep 9 2008, 11:03 AM)
the promotion extended? great!!  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  my SA said he can't find any 2007 stock. so i just proceed to book new model with body kit and monochrome emblem.. wub.gif  wub.gif
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just take 2008 one la. y need old stock? doh.gif

hehehe. hope u enjoy ur car aa. btw, what abt waiting period?
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1-2 months...

old stock got 6-7k discount.. can buy new sport rim and body kit.. brows.gif brows.gif ,also can get before raya. tongue.gif tongue.gif anyway if new stock also have promotion.. i think better go for new stock..
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new promo got rebate also? still i prefer the old stock M-Line. wat also no need change bring home start driving on it.
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QUOTE(hypermount @ Sep 9 2008, 10:17 AM)
oh..I think RS Auto's Mr Hoe is more "keng"..I thought they were same (cos he was under Renautech last time)...try to ask for his advice first..


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lemme know for any response by him.

Just mention jerk at 20km/h, 2nd gear...

It's confirmed that my car do not have hard to start problem, just I oversensitive....

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QUOTE(kidmad @ Sep 9 2008, 03:00 PM)
new promo got rebate also? still i prefer the old stock M-Line. wat also no need change bring home start driving on it.
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i don't think so... discount only for 07 stock.. u still waiting confirmation whether they got stock or not? how long to confirm?
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Anyone here would like to share your latest Fuel Consumption?
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Oh I was refering to M-Line for Manual, it does not come with a reverse sensor. sad.gif
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QUOTE(zurggie @ Sep 9 2008, 07:59 PM)
i don't think so... discount only for 07 stock.. u still waiting confirmation whether they got stock or not? how long to confirm?
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yea still waiting. now i got another offer from someone. she lucky draw get savvy lite 08" AMT and wanna sell it for rm29k. today gonna go and view the car. should i get it or wait for the conformation?
arggh i ask my colleague to call up her customer later. see she can get any conformation from her or not. the last thing she ask was savvy got stock or not. and the marketing gurl in proton edar say alot.

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Anyone got Savvy08 and still having the same problem from the older models? I'm interested only in AMT models.

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QUOTE(Benjamin1213 @ Sep 9 2008, 08:57 PM)
Anyone here would like to share your latest Fuel Consumption?
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mine around 14-15km/l. sweat.gif engine oil not yet full sysn. sweat.gif

QUOTE(pseudo @ Sep 10 2008, 12:01 AM)
Oh I was refering to M-Line for Manual, it does not come with a reverse sensor. sad.gif
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i tot all m-line should hv reverse sensor? onli savvy lite no reverse sensor? sweat.gif u confirm ka? u chk the car yet?

QUOTE(kidmad @ Sep 10 2008, 06:44 AM)
yea still waiting. now i got another offer from someone. she lucky draw get savvy lite 08" AMT and wanna sell it for rm29k. today gonna go and view the car. should i get it or wait for the conformation?
arggh i ask my colleague to call up her customer later. see she can get any conformation from her or not. the last thing she ask was savvy got stock or not. and the marketing gurl in proton edar say alot.
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sweat.gif 08 model n get it for free? wanna sell it at 29k? sweat.gif which line izzit? so cheap. sweat.gif
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Cannot speed over 90km/h due to ECU faulty(everytime drive at highway at left lane also slower than trucks,those kind of feelin sucks). Whooo hoo after 1 month and 2 week wait finally the service centre has fix my savvy...Tonight want to speed more than 100km/h....that kind of feeling is like prisoner been release hahahaha....is REV time rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(Mido_Ban @ Sep 10 2008, 12:57 PM)
Cannot speed over 90km/h due to ECU faulty(everytime drive at highway at left lane also slower than trucks,those kind of feelin sucks). Whooo hoo after 1 month and 2 week wait finally the service centre has fix my savvy...Tonight want to speed more than 100km/h....that kind of feeling is like prisoner been release hahahaha....is REV time rclxm9.gif
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how come ecu got probs? replace new one under warranty? how much izzit? unsure.gif
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QUOTE(death_nite @ Sep 10 2008, 04:59 PM)
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how come ecu got probs? replace new one under warranty? how much izzit? unsure.gif
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i use within 1 month only then aleady rosak...they dare to charge me for the repair??? I sure set fire hahaha...My 1 AMT version

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QUOTE(death_nite @ Sep 10 2008, 08:42 AM)
sweat.gif 08 model n get it for free? wanna sell it at 29k?  sweat.gif which line izzit? so cheap. sweat.gif
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ya da fellow got it from proton edar lucky draw. btw my customers are the whole proton edar group. she got it from da lucky draw for all staffs. its savvy lite year 08' black. too bad its AMT i still want a MT car. seriously very cheap too bad, all paper work u have to do urself. from loan to name transfer of da car. she ain't a salesman.
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lucky guy... if i know earlier i would have got that!
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hi all sifus of Savvy.

saw some 2nd hand year 2006 about RM25k from the latest issue of motortrader magazine.

wat u think?

need some opinion.
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Guyz i guess i cant join the club. dont think there is available stock for savvy 07'. Da salesman already told me most probably next week i can go and get the Saga B-Line instead of Savvy. biggrin.gif
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saga have to wait 6 months also cannot get wor
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QUOTE(lj0000 @ Sep 14 2008, 10:41 AM)
saga have to wait 6 months also cannot get wor
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now waiting list about 1 to 2 months adi.

but stil depends on ur agent blush.gif
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savvy oldi discont?
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1-2 months means jump queue lo

btw i heard they are going to stop the b-line saga
savvy no discount but give extra stuff.
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hermmm... now standard for saga is 1 month time ma. within few weeks can get according to the salesman i bought it from. Well i'm pretty surprise that he is able to replace my old stock savvy booking to a saga B-Line by next week. Most probably he is afraid i'll cancel order by the end of da month if he doesn't provide me the car. tongue.gif
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i was like taking a sharp corner, turn left and my car understeer. sweat.gif

can feel and hear my front right tyre make some screech sound.

now my front right tyre bunga a little bit botak edy. sad.gif look cacat like burn mark edy. haih. so sad. good news is lucky i didnt bang divider. haha.

owh well, understeer due to sand on road. sweat.gif

other 3 tyres still look good. hehe.

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QUOTE(navigator @ Sep 9 2008, 07:14 AM)
They also insist that the startup is not "hard to start" where the car crank several time & still cannot start....

ah...maybe...proton talkingthe truth, D4F is having this problem.....

Even reputable Renautech already said so...what else can I say...all sensor value no problem..... doh.gif
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haha...conform its the tdc sensor problem. get your TDC modified mate.
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QUOTE(chinorot @ Sep 15 2008, 07:43 PM)
haha...conform its the tdc sensor problem. get your TDC modified mate.
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As convinced by not only proton, but Renautech as well. it's not

It's a logic error on AMT transmission.

if TDC sensor the car will feel like stalling as they said while my car is not.

The description matched completely with both proton & renautech.

I'm now using a proton modified TDC sensor FYI.... doh.gif

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what actually did proton modify for u? did proton mod it or renautech did it? any pic?
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my car (my gf's to be accurate) already arrive... rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif . faster then expected.. we just ordered like 2 weeks ago. now only need to sign the loan agreement. icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif .
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what actually did proton modify for u? did proton mod it or renautech did it? any pic?
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My so called proton mod is actually change the shunt cable & blue colored TDC sensor。

the mod is not from renautech but as they mentioned, the problem I experience is due to AMT & not engine. doh.gif

The only temporary solution for now is to do AMT teaching once it's happened. doh.gif

So as for now after AMT teaching it's all ok. sweat.gif
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im going to genting with my AMT savvy next week.

need advise on the driving there.. AMT all the way down or MT ? hmm.gif

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darn.. i had to top up another RM382 because my savvy price is 43,182, not as stated in price list from proton branch which is 42.895. My SA said the price list is for 2007 model. I tought he want to scam me or something, but when i look up in proton edar website, the price really is 43k. doh.gif doh.gif . Loan already approve.. so have to topup. Luckily not that expensive. Apa punye SA.. vmad.gif vmad.gif

Now no money left.. cry.gif cry.gif , terpaksa pinjam duit.. tongue.gif tongue.gif . waiting for bonus this 23rd brows.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(davidmu @ Sep 19 2008, 10:49 PM)
wow rclxms.gif  happy to wait for register next week..

my SAVVY 1.2 MT black with bodykit brows.gif  WRV xx69
icon_question.gif may I do the soundproof in the door??
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dat means if get car next week or in two weeks then possible to get WRX???
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http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Atta...=post&id=581521

i like this mod...

wonder how to i tell the guy at the shop how to mod like this?
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QUOTE(FeeD @ Sep 21 2008, 12:27 AM)
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Atta...=post&id=581521

i like this mod...

wonder how to i tell the guy at the shop how to mod like this?
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the front grill i think its 2007 model but being cutting down..
u can buy 3rd party one,last time RM60 without paint..
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what's the difference between 2007 model compare to 2005 model?

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already use up to 300km... nice and fun car to drive.. nothing to comment bout the exterior and performance.. but the interior... so lame and cheap.. the built were so rough. the plastic got torn at the edge here and there. my dad's 10 years old kancil got electric side mirror, but this one have to adjust manually. shakehead.gif

oh well.. guess have to sacrifice that to get nice performance cheap car. hmm.gif
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Sad yesterday out run by a Myvi ...... when i fifth gear able to maintain with him, but when we stop at the traffic light then when the traffic light turn green we both starts pickup but i totally cannot chase that myvi....I am using AMT switchin to semi-manual...is like WTF !@#$% ... That myvi looks like auto and no mod at all but pickup fast like shittt....Some more i was wondering why AMT manual 5th gear ratio so long ah? I start changin 5th gear when i was about 70km/h then with 5th gear i drag until 150 km/h the rpm is about 5000 sounds over rev already....hmmm the gear ratio not balance? Any AMT user got this problem? Is it normal?

I am still learning about this car, because until today i still cannot find is potential.
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myvi got vvti power mar. of course win lah.
try compete in winding roads. savvy will show its true color
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already use up to 300km... nice and fun car to drive.. nothing to comment bout the exterior and performance.. but the interior... so lame and cheap.. the built were so rough. the plastic got torn at the edge here and there. my dad's 10 years old kancil got electric side mirror, but this one have to adjust manually.  shakehead.gif

oh well.. guess have to sacrifice that to get nice performance cheap car.  hmm.gif
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i oso sad knowing no electric side mirror. haih. sweat.gif btw why ur plastic got torn at the edge here there? cos mine no torn wooo. unsure.gif

QUOTE(Mido_Ban @ Sep 22 2008, 06:11 PM)
Sad yesterday out run by a Myvi ...... when i fifth gear able to maintain with him, but when we stop at the traffic light then when the traffic light turn green we both starts pickup but i totally cannot chase that myvi....I am using AMT switchin to semi-manual...is like WTF !@#$% ... That myvi looks like auto and no mod at all but pickup fast like shittt....Some more i was wondering why AMT manual 5th gear ratio so long ah? I start changin 5th gear when i was about 70km/h then with 5th gear i drag until 150 km/h the rpm is about 5000 sounds over rev already....hmmm the gear ratio not balance? Any AMT user got this problem? Is it normal?

I am still learning about this car, because until today i still cannot find is potential.
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i tot myvi got better pickup compared to savvy? sweat.gif

but when come to cornering, you can show them the powaahh! hehehe. brows.gif

n yes. everyone do think savvy need gear 6. haih. i believe if they add gear 6, when cruising in highway sure can give better fc. sad.gif
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i think can lol .

150 , 5k rpm ? its quite high already actually tongue.gif the sound is different cause the power tongue.gif
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how many of us go for the r3 muffler?
does it really increase hp by 3?
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change muffler +3hp o.0 so power ?
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as advertised somewhere deep in r3 catalogue
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wow , lol they provide dyno as well ? dyno already then you will ask them for money back garuntee
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any1 here wana sell off his savvy? im looking for used savvy AMT. wats the market price then? and i heard a lot of people discussing the major problems of savvy, then really need a lot of money to fix ah?
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check it on motortrader or ontheroad and other website , you should get the ride you want , depends on the previous owner as well , good luck for your search
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QUOTE(zurggie @ Sep 24 2008, 11:54 PM)
new car can get petrol rebate? just wonder..
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can can. i got mine edy. brows.gif

QUOTE(rkjsoo @ Sep 25 2008, 12:12 AM)
i think can lol .

150 , 5k rpm ? its quite high already actually tongue.gif the sound is different cause the power tongue.gif
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i prefer 150 at 4rpm. can save petrol maa. nod.gif

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how many of us go for the r3 muffler?
does it really increase hp by 3?
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no money ler. eh, fc increase or not? or still same?

QUOTE(rkjsoo @ Sep 25 2008, 02:08 AM)
wow , lol they provide dyno as well ? dyno already then you will ask them for money back garuntee
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if u lurk into savoc.net, its proven if not mistaken. smile.gif
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cool for you all i not savvy owner lol
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r3 shud sound nicer
physically maybe the pipes are different, smaller , maybe straighter
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hai guys.i've found 1 seller wana let go his savvy with R3 bodykit model 2006. and what r the differences btwn model 06 and 05?wat is the market price for 2006 model now?thanks a lot
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r3 muffler i think using different material , the piping also not same hence better flow = more performance wise
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QUOTE(SCCH @ Sep 25 2008, 08:32 PM)
hai guys.i've found 1 seller wana let go his savvy with R3 bodykit  model 2006. and what r the differences btwn model 06 and 05?wat is the market price for 2006 model now?thanks a lot
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05 and 06 model is the same.
they differ from 07 onward facelifted models.

05&06 have a beak and wearing g-string
while 07 dont.
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That's good..welcome davidmu smile.gif.
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thanks, get the car, enough 1day, drag more than 140km/h(too fast)
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guys, ive viewed 3 savvy few days ago.(1)year05-RM24k- mileage is 50k, (2)year05-RM25k- mileage is 28k, and last 1 is model 06 but registered on jan07-RM28k-mileage 50k. which is worth to buy. the conditions r more or less the same. thanks for ur advice.
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Can anyone with AMT transmission test this for me?

Try to turn the key to ON while pressing the brake pedal & start the car to see if it jerks?

Then try not to press the brake pedal while turn the key to ON & start the car.

Just realize my car have such behavior where AMT 2nd gear jerk occur when I turn the key ON while accidentally pressed the brake pedal. Maintained a while NOT to press brake pedal when turn on the key for 2 weeks already since my last post & no jerk already...However my AMT warning flashed twice for this period when I stopped at traffic light... According to SC the error is due to some wirings short circuit or disconnected. however since it doesn't interfere with the car's operation + it lit for approx 5 seconds only, so far no action done except resetting the error code....
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My Savvy AMT does not exhibit any jerking at all during starting whether the brake pedal is depressed or not. I thought this is normal?

Everytime after ignition, the display shows 'N', ready to put into drive.

Hopefully it is not a sign of impending problem with your AMT.
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QUOTE(navigator @ Sep 28 2008, 11:33 PM)
Can anyone with AMT transmission test this for me?

Try to turn the key to ON while pressing the brake pedal & start the car to see if it jerks?

Then try not to press the brake pedal while turn the key to ON & start the car.

Just realize my car have such behavior where AMT 2nd gear jerk occur when I turn the key ON while accidentally pressed the brake pedal. Maintained a while NOT to press brake pedal when turn on the key for 2 weeks already since my last post & no jerk already...However my AMT warning flashed twice for this period when I stopped at traffic light... According to SC the error is due to some wirings short circuit or disconnected. however since it doesn't interfere with the car's operation + it lit for approx 5 seconds only, so far no action done except resetting the error code....
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will try later on. i tot if not mistaken if press brake when key at ON will consume some power from battery, no? cos clutch will engage too? nvr theless shouldnt hv any probs aite?

auto lit when stop at traffic light. u didnt put N? each time u stop at traffic light do put gear to N. AMT can build excessive heat if press brake too long at traffic light.

just make it this way, the longer u press ur brake, the longer ur amt press the clutch, the longer u activate ur clutch the longer ur amt pump will work hard; thus heats build up. sad.gif


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I'm just received my savvy last week. Silver color H-line AMT.
I heard a lot of problem on AMT ..i'm already scared. I notice that everytime changing gear got sound from kruk..kruk.. especially on gear 1 until 3. Is it normal??? The 1st gear also change around 2.5rpm..not feel good when drive slowly around 10-15km/j in jalan kampung ..always jerk2 due to high rev.
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QUOTE(teratak @ Sep 29 2008, 10:30 AM)
I'm just received my savvy last week. Silver color H-line AMT.
I heard a lot of problem on AMT ..i'm already scared. I notice that everytime changing gear got sound from kruk..kruk.. especially on gear 1 until 3. Is it normal??? The 1st gear also change around 2.5rpm..not feel good when drive slowly around 10-15km/j in jalan kampung ..always jerk2 due to high rev.
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kruk kruk is normal.

D gear change at 2.5rpm and above. if want to change gear lower than 2.5rpm use manual mode instead.

this engine rev high quite normal also. no need to worry. 6k rpm all the way! laugh.gif

if possible maintain ur warranty.

dont b paranoid. go to savoc.net read all any related problems with AMT and how to avoid it for the time being.

though i admit a lot of problems might occur after 50k km. sad.gif touch wood la touch wood. hopefully after 150k still good.

btw, welcome to the club!

damn. silver hiline. i want that color but too bad. i got energy orange instead.

p/s: remember put to N when stopping at traffic light. dont press ur brake too long.
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QUOTE(raynman @ Sep 29 2008, 12:09 AM)
My Savvy AMT does not exhibit any jerking at all during starting whether the brake pedal is depressed or not. I thought this is normal?

Everytime after ignition, the display shows 'N', ready to put into drive.

Hopefully it is not a sign of impending problem with your AMT.
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I apply engine brake all the time coz scare something might happen IF the parking brake failed.... So basically I need to put it from 1/D to N before I start my car and I need to depress the brake pedal to engage the gear.

Impending or not, a lot of things had been done and even Renautech said this problem has no cure..... doh.gif


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will try later on. i tot if not mistaken if press brake when key at ON will consume some power from battery, no? cos clutch will engage too? nvr theless shouldnt hv any probs aite?

auto lit when stop at traffic light. u didnt put N? each time u stop at traffic light do put gear to N. AMT can build excessive heat if press brake too long at traffic light.

just make it this way, the longer u press ur brake, the longer ur amt press the clutch, the longer u activate ur clutch the longer ur amt pump will work hard; thus heats build up. sad.gif
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I do put it to N whenever the car is not running. So I don't think that might be the case.

From my understanding, the clutch is actuated by the TCU programming & not by the brake pedal even though there's a brake switch governing the pedal position......

If not imagine you have to control the brake to start going on traffic light...... doh.gif whistling.gif

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is it normal for a 2 years old savvy to hav a bit rust inside the exhaust?
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Yes, it's normal。。。。
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already sent for 1000km service. 100% free.. use coupon of course.. love this car.. icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif . i would want one for myself, but im going to buy 7 seater mpv or suv for future convenience.
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Waoh darn fast right u clock up to 1000km?
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hello guys,

i would say i am a future savvy owner (hopefully)..smile.gif

but there is still couple of things that make me hesitate to make a decision yet.

ive been reading savvy related threads here at lowyatt and savoc, and so far i can say, more savvy owner got problem with AMT savvy..yes, i do know some of you who didnt get such problems with ur savvy..but still the percentage and probability of getting it still higher. and if im not mistaken, after 50,000km mileage, AMT savvy (or maybe manual savvy too?) more prone to get "sick"...

so can anyone of u guys here, explain to me, is it worth ur money to get a AMT savvy? put aside the perfomance & beauty, i was talking bout an extra payment for maintenance..(some ppl do take care of their car but still get into this problem).

some more, i live in sabah, and i am quite sure, spare part prices was quite high then in peninsular, also i dont know whether AMT spare part easy to find here or not..this also things i hav to consider :/

i do like AMT savvy, i would like to try it..but i dont think it worth it if "slalu kong", high maintenance cost..

can someone here explain why take manual savvy not AMT savvy?..(any other reason other than "i like manual" thinggy, more into "y i choose manual over AMT").

i want to ask more, but i just cant remember, maybe after this..so maybe all my doubt bout savvy will be cleared.




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once u tried savvy... u will kena racun one

anyway, sabah is not that far away mah.
the prices of parts shud be quite standard regardless of where u r. oni the point is the service technician dunno got or not
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here sure hear, transportation cost one...

btw, which one you prefer manual or amt? and y?
if amt is ok, i would like to go for it, i dont really like manual bcoz of jam smile.gif
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QUOTE(Benjamin1213 @ Sep 29 2008, 08:12 PM)
Waoh darn fast right u clock up to 1000km?
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urmm.. well.. its bulan puasa. everyday go to bazar ramadhan which quite far from our place. tongue.gif tongue.gif .


ronaldpan, i also scared after reading savoc. i might think twice to buy the car if i read savoc first. now already bought the car so just hope no defect happen like what those owner in savoc claim. hope savvy otai here can clear your doubt bout purchasing one. nod.gif
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yeah hopefully...

the problems posted in savoc quite scary.. biggrin.gif

but still wondering, y got so many D.I.Y in savoc? its like showing savvy got so many problems..(no hard feeling).

but my heart still saying, go for savvy..tongue.gif.. but i just cant ignore all this issues.. yala, i will be paying for it for maybe 7 or 9 years, later if i dont like it, want to sell it the price dropped edi..

so otai2 come la..

another thing, i think not many ppl buy savvy since savvy's thread only v2. other thread edi so far..maybe they scared with proton brand?

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Stock HU, and 4 speakers cannot satisfy my requirement


I just want to get my own KENWOOD CD biggrin.gif player to my new Savvy,
and change a good component set (front speaker + crossover) to it...

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So, is they need to cut icon_rolleyes.gif or modify the stock wiring... blink.gif

Will proton void my 5 yrs warranty?
not the Clarion(HU) warranty, only Proton 5 yrs warranty


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It is simple, this is how warranty goes. What ever u change or cut or alter the stock part they will only void that particular area. But for this case it involves cutting wires, proton claims that cutting any wires and if u complain wanted to claim for warranty u might have a hard time. So! if u wanna do it dont even bother about warranty.
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wat's the differeny between Lite, ML and HL?biggrin.gif
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i go to proton web to find the info. but the info bout savvy is incomplete...any other web? sigh. thanks for your help rjksoo:D
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Walk to any proton edar, they will explain in detail to u. =)
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QUOTE(edwin88 @ Sep 30 2008, 02:46 AM)
wat's the differeny between Lite, ML and HL?biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(edwin88 @ Sep 30 2008, 12:10 PM)
i go to proton web to find the info. but the info bout savvy is incomplete...any other web? sigh. thanks for your help rjksoo:D
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basically aa..

hi-line got abs + airbag

m-line full spec like reverse sensor 4 speaker etc etc

lite one aa? basic spec only. if wanna mod kaw kaw take lite. hehe.

hv u try paultan? i think paultan did xplain. smile.gif

uh, bro navi, i tried edy. no diff ler. no jerk. erm. maybe i will try again later on. sweat.gif r u sure u r not overly sensitive with ur car? ur jerk like riding a horse?
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QUOTE(death_nite @ Sep 30 2008, 05:44 PM)
basically aa..

hi-line got abs + airbag

m-line full spec like reverse sensor 4 speaker etc etc

lite one aa? basic spec only. if wanna mod kaw kaw take lite. hehe.

hv u try paultan? i think paultan did xplain. smile.gif

uh, bro navi, i tried edy. no diff ler. no jerk. erm. maybe i will try again later on. sweat.gif r u sure u r not overly sensitive with ur car? ur jerk like riding a horse?
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I'm sure i'm not over sensitive as I've asked several ppl to test it out for me.

erm... the jerk will be very noticeable on bumper to bumper jam...not highway cruising.

Both proton & renautech aware of this problem and called it AMT jerk. So i'm pretty sure I'm not alone.


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guys,im still considering between the few 2nd savvy.what do u guys think?go for higher mileage but 2007 or lower mileage 2005.help guys. is mileage really matter to savvy?cause some poeple over savoc claimed problems occured frequently after 50k of mileage.true ah?
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QUOTE(ronaldpan @ Sep 29 2008, 09:50 PM)
yeah hopefully...

the problems posted in savoc quite scary.. biggrin.gif

but still wondering, y got so many D.I.Y in savoc? its like showing savvy got so many problems..(no hard feeling).

but my heart still saying, go for savvy..tongue.gif.. but i just cant ignore all this issues.. yala, i will be paying for it for maybe 7 or 9 years, later if i dont like it, want to sell it the price dropped edi..

so otai2 come la..

another thing, i think not many ppl buy savvy since savvy's thread only v2. other thread edi so far..maybe they scared with proton brand?
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Cars bound to have problems later with tens of thousands components it's just how well the car could tolerate the faults...DIY means the faults are easy to rectify...there seems to be 2 major probs with AMT model - accumulator - RM1k to replace and robotic clutch RM2k - both NEW, still much cheaper than the whole transmission set - if you need to replace whole "exotic" transmission like the CVT for example.. MT model is generally reliable lime mine including the manual gearbox found on AMT>>

You can count on me like other enthusiastic owners who will keep the car for long time...love my baby very much - now nearly 80k km, 2005 car MT>


There's no thread about kelisa and kenari if you notive..and the kancil thread only begins to picking up...

still experiementing with RON92 petrol - BHP and ESSO 92 working fine on our cars...

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QUOTE(hypermount @ Oct 1 2008, 08:03 AM)
Cars bound to have problems later with tens of thousands components it's just how well the car could tolerate the faults...DIY means the faults are easy to rectify...there seems to be 2 major probs with AMT model - accumulator - RM1k to replace and robotic clutch RM2k - both NEW, still much cheaper than the whole transmission set - if you need to replace on "exotic" transmission like the CVT for example.. MT model is generally reliable lime mine including the manual gearbox found on AMT>>

You can count me like other enthusiastic owners who will keep the car for long time...love my baby very much - now nearly 80k km, 2005 car MT>
There's no thread about kelisa and kenari if you notive..and the kancil thread only begins to picking up...

still experiementing with RON92 petrol - BHP and ESSO 92 working fine on our cars...
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RON92 should be fine on Savvy.... But not on major proton cars such as those equipped with Mitsubishi & campro series of engines
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QUOTE(navigator @ Oct 1 2008, 02:05 PM)
RON92 should be fine on Savvy.... But not on major proton cars such as those equipped with Mitsubishi & campro  series of engines
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Are you actually using RON92 on your Savvy AMT? I am not that brave, at least not until many owners can vouch for it.
I hope there are no long term side effects other than the anticipated minor drop in performance.


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really, how many time U pump RON92????? blink.gif
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still experiementing with RON92 petrol - BHP and ESSO 92 working fine on our cars...
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if this is really work, quick tell our bro n sis at SAVOC brows.gif
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RON92 should be fine on Savvy.... But not on major proton cars such as those equipped with Mitsubishi & campro  series of engines
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QUOTE(raynman @ Oct 1 2008, 02:25 PM)
Are you actually using RON92 on your Savvy AMT? I am not that brave, at least not until many owners can vouch for it.
I hope there are no long term side effects other than the anticipated minor drop in performance.
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I din use it as my company only pay for RON97 & diesels.

But there's some ppl i know feed their savvy with RON92 and no significant performance drop nor operational problems.


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really, how many time U pump RON92????? blink.gif
if this is really work, quick tell our bro n sis at SAVOC brows.gif
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..SAVOC a? I;m not active member over there..... doh.gif sweat.gif

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most new cars already have a 'ping sensor' in the engine. meaning if the fuel is of sub standard, then it will retard the timing to suit it.
for example, most fuel in indonesia are of ron 88. ron 92 and 95 are the high end fuel.

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on warranty of HU.. it is possible not to cut any wires. according to accessory shops, they can use the clip method to connect the wires.
but keep in mind, if u short some wires and fries something. dun expect proton to honour warranty on that.
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stop surfing on the web for info on savvy. go out and test drive one then surf for info.

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i fully agree. my family's honda is going to die soon because of CVT issue, honda can't do anything to help. most likely will need to change a recond gearbox soon.

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yea the core of AMT is still the manual gearbox wink.gif which shouldn't be a problem
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True, but the robotic clutch system is many times more expensive to replace than
the actual clutch kit in the manual gearbox in the event of component failure.
This is what every Savvy AMT owner is dreading whenever the AUTO light comes on.
Proton's inability to resolve this problem is not helping to allay this fear, especially
for those out-of-warranty vehicles.


Added on October 2, 2008, 1:44 pmThere is one lady owner from Singapore who posted on savoc.net yesterday regarding the AMT failure
of her two-month old Savvy!

After ignition, she cannot put the car into drive from the 'N' position. Even with the help of some
experienced forummers, she still couldn't manage to engage into drive. I really sympathise with
her since she cannot use her car and has to wait to be towed back to the service centre after the
Raya holidays.

My Savvy AMT is also around two-month+ old and I am feeling really apprehensive about this AMT
problem. So unpredictable. It can happen without warning on both new and out-of-warranty vehicles.

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davidmu:
on warranty of HU.. it is possible not to cut any wires. according to accessory shops, they can use the clip method to connect the wires .

but keep in mind, if u short some wires and fries something. dun expect proton to honour warranty on that.
thanks lj0000, honestly, I just touch up the crossover to my stock speaker and change the HU to KENWOOD thumbup.gif

Feel better to this little changing to my Audio sys rclxm9.gif

FROM my company SC, what they said is really same as you said...

Just void the CLARION and speaker warranty, what I believe...
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clarion is good as well by the way tongue.gif lol
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congrats davidmu. mind take a pic of ur new baby? how does it fit?
also, mind giving me ur old unit?
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congrats davidmu. mind take a pic of ur new baby? how does it fit?
also, mind giving me ur old unit?
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PROJECT ICE not done yet, I just put in my KENWOOD rclxms.gif , sound good after add crossover with stock speaker(front)

I just take picture of the whole HU out, I will show u the Work In Progress DRAFT 1st

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QUOTE(lj0000 @ Oct 2 2008, 12:20 PM)
most new cars already have a 'ping sensor' in the engine. meaning if the fuel is of sub standard, then it will retard the timing to suit it.
for example, most fuel in indonesia are of ron 88. ron 92 and 95 are the high end fuel.

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davidmu:
on warranty of HU.. it is possible not to cut any wires. according to accessory shops, they can use the clip method to connect the wires.
but keep in mind, if u short some wires and fries something. dun expect proton to honour warranty on that.
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stop surfing on the web for info on savvy. go out and test drive one then surf for info.

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i fully agree. my family's honda is going to die soon because of CVT issue, honda can't do anything to help. most likely will need to change a recond gearbox soon.
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for the timing retarding, it'll also have a minimum threshold as a limit. so some engine especially with high compression have to use at least Ron95 premium fuel....


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True, but the robotic clutch system is many times more expensive to replace than
the actual clutch kit in the manual gearbox in the event of component failure.
This is what every Savvy AMT owner is dreading whenever the AUTO light comes on.
Proton's inability to resolve this problem is not helping to allay this fear, especially
for those out-of-warranty vehicles.


Added on October 2, 2008, 1:44 pmThere is one lady owner from Singapore who posted on savoc.net yesterday regarding the AMT failure
of her two-month old Savvy!

After ignition, she cannot put the car into drive from the 'N' position. Even with the help of some
experienced forummers, she still couldn't manage to engage into drive. I really sympathise with
her since she cannot use her car and has to wait to be towed back to the service centre after the
Raya holidays.

My Savvy AMT is also around two-month+ old and I am feeling really apprehensive about this AMT
problem. So unpredictable. It can happen without warning on both new and out-of-warranty vehicles.
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most of the auto light warning cases are due to wiring faults & not component failure.... FYI Renault is known to have higher electronic failure compared to other brands. Proton did their best to improve the situation and of course....accident still happened. My car is retained at 1st service for 2 week because they detected an impending failure in the AMT system and changed my wirings.

However, while it's not a very serious problem, my car still suffer from AMT jerk & it's almost certain to be caused by the brake switch & "seasonal" AMT light warning & the error shown is something like "wiring earthed/disconnected".... whistling.gif

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QUOTE(navigator @ Oct 2 2008, 10:35 PM)
for the timing retarding, it'll also have a minimum threshold as a limit. so some engine especially with high compression have to use at least Ron95 premium fuel....


Added on October 2, 2008, 10:41 pm

most of the auto light warning cases are due to wiring faults & not component failure.... FYI Renault is known to have higher electronic failure compared to other brands. Proton did their best to improve the situation and of course....accident still happened. My car is retained at 1st service for 2 week because they detected an impending failure in the AMT system and changed my wirings.

However, while it's not a very serious problem, my car still suffer from AMT jerk & it's almost certain to be caused by the brake switch & "seasonal" AMT light warning & the error shown is something like "wiring earthed/disconnected".... whistling.gif
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We need to define what exactly is a "wiring fault". Wires wrongly connected not according to Renault factory wiring diagram? Loose connectors? Corroded connections? Shorting?
If these are facts, then why do they happen? And in so many AMT vehicles? Shouldn't Proton be doing a recall for this wiring problem similar to the rear wheel bearing problem?
Is there any assurance from Proton that after changing the wiring, it won't happen again?

There are just too many questions without good answers from Proton that will allay our nagging fear of impending AMT failure. And I have not even experienced the AUTO light on yet. hmm.gif
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thanks hyper for ur explaination,

it did gave me a relief a bit, but i do still feel "not satisfied" with it.
i went to proton car dealer yesterday just to have a closer look at this savvy, and yeah..i really want it.. tongue.gif
but just like raynman said...AMT is so unpredictable!!

so now im still thinking either to take AMT or MANUAL..sweat.gif

what do you guys suggest? why some of u take manual/amt? (well i want to see an answer different from "with manual i look more macho etc2" hehe)
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i took the amt version because i believe some preventive measurement can be done to minimise the risk
1. choose ur car - choose date after june 2008
2. flush the amt oil and change it to renault oil
3. change sparkplug to ribbed ones
4. shrinktube the tdc connector
5. put o-ring to the sparkplug connector
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QUOTE(lj0000 @ Oct 4 2008, 12:58 PM)
i took the amt version because i believe some preventive measurement can be done to minimise the risk
1. choose ur car - choose date after june 2008
2. flush the amt oil and change it to renault oil
3. change sparkplug to ribbed ones
4. shrinktube the tdc connector
5. put o-ring to the sparkplug connector
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do u mean u do it all in ur list after u get ur car? btw, i dont quite understand the no4. thing.. blink.gif
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ya. probably will get my car next monday.
will do those first hand.

no4 is there is a electrical connector at the tdc sensor. will unplug, put in a heatshrink tube and connect back to keep moisture out. probably will spray wd40 first.
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i took the amt version because i believe some preventive measurement can be done to minimise the risk
1. choose ur car - choose date after june 2008
2. flush the amt oil and change it to renault oil
3. change sparkplug to ribbed ones
4. shrinktube the tdc connector
5. put o-ring to the sparkplug connector
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Good call,

I would have done exactly the same thing as you if I were to get another new Savvy AMT. No matter what year of manufacture. thumbup.gif
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Just add 1 din CDplayer

I cant find the casing for my car, I ask so many Audio shop ady
they said cost around RM110

ANY suggest to add what stuff below the player? sweat.gif

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another??


Added on October 4, 2008, 2:31 pmshud add a casing that allow storage. for example to put ur thumbdrive and smarttag

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where can I get?

QUOTE(lj0000 @ Oct 4 2008, 02:20 PM)
another??


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QUOTE(davidmu @ Oct 4 2008, 02:13 PM)
Just add 1 din CDplayer

I cant find the casing for my car, I ask so many Audio shop ady
they said cost around RM110

ANY suggest to add what stuff below the player? sweat.gif

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
Either u get the compartment box or u can use acrylic board to cover it up. haha or! maybe u have intention to put in SAFC? brows.gif
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i got an idea for savvy sticker. the sticker should be reflective type or the silver type to resemble the savvy logo behind.

HiSavvy (highline savvy)
MySavvy (m-line savvy)
esavvy (economy savvy?)


Added on October 4, 2008, 3:19 pm

on casings:
i saw them at some accessory shop in subang. similar to these ones

http://www.savoc.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2779

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esavvy sound much better than those 2..lol

btw Ij000,

with all those list u made, can it prevent the "unpredictable failure" of AMT? or maybe reduce it for maybe how many percent?

its good tho (ur list)..
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e-savvy is actually for electric-savvy but in here is economy savvy tongue.gif

well.. i believe there are preventive things that can be done. i wont wait for the 10k service. maybe then already too late. its not that expensive for those stuff.

my experience is from my iswara. a dirty sparkplug actually killed my distributor and thus a rm500 repair. at first i wold never believe a dirty sparkplug will do such damage..
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maybe you can keep us updated after u done with all those things smile.gif

hopefully it could prevent the usual problems occur in AMT smile.gif..if ur preventive measure effective, then i will choose AMT again..

my KWSP got prob. so my "getting a savvy" process would go slow..so i have time to ask around and waiting for ur update.. lol

time to go back! lol...have a nice weekend guys..
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lol , all the best to you all then , ronald enjoy your day as well
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Put this below myKENWOOD HU??
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[quote=Benjamin1213,Oct 4 2008, 02:41 PM]Either u get the compartment box or u can use acrylic board to cover it up. haha or! maybe u have intention to put in SAFC?  brows.gif
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Added on October 4, 2008, 11:38 pmWhich stop in Subang??
I want to ask them to perfect my Audio system

quote=lj0000,Oct 4 2008, 03:09 PM]
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i saw them at some accessory shop in subang. similar to these ones

http://www.savoc.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2779
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Yeah, that one also can. That is AFC Neo if u really wanna fix u need to find someone who can read our wiring output diagram so that they can tap it on. Now so far there's only SAFC installed, but the owner dosent want to share where did he get it done. =/
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Is time to get a TT!!!!!!!!!!

So any bro here to plan a HAPPENING TT ??

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Only for LYN members, do it in subang =) haha
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Normally, where our SAVOC LYN's TT ??

any bro ever open a register list to TT?

QUOTE(Benjamin1213 @ Oct 5 2008, 07:25 PM)
Only for LYN members, do it in subang =) haha
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maybe you be the first to start it ?
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Let's make a happening LYN TT for SAVOC, haha... rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

any suggestion, I decide the place at Subang, is OK?

I suggest find a landmark restaurant meet up!! icon_idea.gif
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sadly hv to skip. cos i am at jb. sad.gif
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good idea. i think the mcdonald drivetru is a good place. but kinda hard to find parking.

otherwise can go to mamak stall, next to kfc in ss15
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NVM, we wait for u back looo, just PM your hp number
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sadly hv to skip. cos i am at jb. sad.gif
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lj0000, u stay Subang there?? U got ur car ady?? ohmy.gif
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good idea. i think the mcdonald drivetru is a good place. but kinda hard to find parking.

otherwise can go to mamak stall, next to kfc in ss15
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NVM, we wait for u back looo, just PM your hp number
lj0000, u stay Subang there?? U got ur car ady?? ohmy.gif
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hahaha.

actually i just finish my internship here.

looking for job at kl (maybe) next 2 months. tongue.gif
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already clock to 2000km.. i didn't find my gf savvy's fc any better than my sister's naza sutera. maybe this is my 1st time look at digital meter. 2 bar analog felt a lot compare to 2 bar digital. tongue.gif tongue.gif .. and my gf always fill the tank full when it reach 2 bar.

my friend suggest me using automax fuel enhancer to save petrol.. any comment on this product? anyone use it?
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i had drive naza sutera before..but personally i dont like the car, no power, the gear also feel like far from hand...cant reach it..tongue.gif

but thats was my personal view of the car la..
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QUOTE(raynman @ Oct 2 2008, 11:15 PM)
We need to define what exactly is a "wiring fault". Wires wrongly connected not according to Renault factory wiring diagram? Loose connectors? Corroded connections? Shorting?
If these are facts, then why do they happen? And in so many AMT vehicles? Shouldn't Proton be doing a recall for this wiring problem similar to the rear wheel bearing problem?
Is there any assurance from Proton that after changing the wiring, it won't happen again?

There are just too many questions without good answers from Proton that will allay our nagging fear of impending AMT failure. And I have not even experienced the AUTO light on yet.  hmm.gif
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Wiring fault is a general terms. You need to look at the nature of the fault to derive them in details and most of the cases are unique to the car and not to others. They might have a combination of what you mentioned.

What assurance do you want...? even VW DSG gearbox will have firmware problem that yet to be solve, dude. doh.gif

According to one of the technical person in Proton on the Proton Open day, he mentioned that the occurrences of AMT failure is not high enough to trigger alarm. They even confidently said that the savvy's electronic fault is less compared to Renault itself..... sweat.gif

Talking about recall, they also mentioned that most of the recall is due to a design flaw and they might put the driver to great danger while AMT & other similar common problem does not pose a immanent danger when the fault occurred.

Auto light on is not dreaded to most of us as the auto warning light is just a warning and the car mostly still can be driven without any problem like how most of the ppl treat the engine check light(of course...I treat them seriously...My last gearbox light on is due to a weird reason..."TDC sensor voltage too high" for a few second... sweat.gif ). An alarming situation should be engine STOP light, engine warning light, electrical fault & AMT light lit altogether.... then you can feel the fear (and I never heard of it yet, but it's documented in the manual that in this situation, engine won't rev beyond 2000RPM). doh.gif

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my savvy on the brink of coming out liao smile.gif
car plate will be WRW2xxx will register first thing tomorrow smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif cant wait!

rock cafe is good for beer and football smile.gif

deathnite- what u study in? mind telling?

i am thinking of getting a obd2 scan tool with bluetooth. then i can monitor my car anytime i want. will cost few hundred bucks though.


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automax fuel enhancer claim that they can save more fuel , but anyne can prove it ? lol , maybe you try it and let us know
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i will stop complaining abt amt and get ready to save money for future use. sweat.gif

since he (proton) say amt problems not high enough to trigger alarm, the least proton should do is increase our amt module warranty to 5 years. old buyers should get change problematic amt module for free. or give discount (50-70% maybe tongue.gif ).

still 1-3k or some even need to pay 16k just to repair amt module kindda shakehead.gif to me.

my expectation at least my amt should be working for 7 years.

2 years or 50kkm edy got probs, kindda sweat.gif . thats all.

QUOTE(lj0000 @ Oct 6 2008, 08:49 PM)
my savvy on the brink of coming out liao smile.gif
car plate will be WRW2xxx will register first thing tomorrow smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif cant wait!

rock cafe is good for beer and football smile.gif

deathnite- what u study in? mind telling?

i am thinking of getting a obd2 scan tool with bluetooth. then i can monitor my car anytime i want. will cost few hundred bucks though.
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great!

obd2 scan tool woth bluetooth? what is that?

me? what i study? look my siggy ma. haha.
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fist security tech ?
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fist security tech ?
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i am from mmu melaka leh.

degree in security technology faculty information science technology (fist).

hey. its OT. later mod give vacation. sweat.gif
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