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post Jan 31 2008, 07:39 PM, updated 18y ago

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It's time for a new thread. Here are some useful info from the first post of the previous HDTV thread, courtesy of H@H@.


To all you with questions about HDTV quality and comparison between consoles on HDTV, please refer to this FAQ to ensure that you're actually enjoying HDTV to the fullest.

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The simple explanation of Digital TV

    Digital TV describes the current crop of higher scan frequency sets.  The designation is bestowed on sets that are able to display progressive signals or include a line doubler to convert the incoming viewable NTSC signal at 480i (interlaced) to 480p (progressive).  Digital TV can be 4:3 or 16:9 aspect ratio.  Ultimately, it is the ability to display the high resolution image defined by the ATSC standards of 1080i or 720p that is the solid foundation of Digital TV.

HDTV or HD-Ready

    During the course of shopping for a digital television, the labels HDTV and HD-Ready maybe of some confusion to the consumer.  This HDTV designation signifies that the set has an internal ATSC tuner/decoder, as well as meeting the widescreen specifications often required to be considered a true HDTV.  The sets will meet the requirement to display in 1080i/720p, although it is often the former only.  Very few digital TVs on the market will display in native 720p.  The lack of an ATSC tuner/decoder is not necessarily a negative as many set-top decoders are now available with more features than those included in the integrated HDTV.  The separate purchase of a HD-Ready TV and the external set-top-box often provides flexibility to the consumer to choose one that offers added features such as satellite receiver and the proper output signal.  Most HD-Ready sets will include a high-band component (Y-Pb-Pr) DTV input, although few on the market also offers RGB for this purpose.  There have been much debate between manufacturers as to the aspect ratio specifications of the HDTV designation, and it is now recognized that a true HD set will provide widescreen 16:9 aspect screen.

Industry Standards

    Due to the confusion in the Digital Television labeling, the Consumer Electronics Association has defined the descriptions for television equipment standards listed below:

    High-Definition Television (HDTV): HDTV refers to a complete product/system with the following minimum performance attributes:

        * Receiver: Receives ATSC terrestrial digital transmissions and decodes all ATSC Table 3 video formats
        * Display Scanning Format: Has active vertical scanning lines of 720 progressive (720p), 1080 interlaced (1080i), or higher
        * Aspect Ratio: Capable of displaying a 16:9 image1
        * Audio: Receives and reproduces, and/or outputs Dolby Digital audio

    High-Definition Television (HDTV) Monitor: HDTV Monitor refers to a monitor or display with the following minimum performance attributes:

        * Display Scanning Format: Has active vertical scanning lines of 720 progressive (720p), 1080 interlaced (1080i), or higher
        * Aspect Ratio: Capable of displaying a 16:9 image (1)

          (1) In specifications found on product literature and in owner's manuals, manufacturers are required to disclose the number of vertical scanning lines in the 16:9 viewable area, which must be 540p, 810i or higher to meet the definition of HDTV.

    Enhanced Definition Television (EDTV): EDTV refers to a complete product/system with the following minimum performance attributes:

        * Receiver: Receives ATSC terrestrial digital transmissions and decodes all ATSC Table 3 video formats
        * Display Scanning Format: Has active vertical scanning lines of 480 progressive (480p) or higher
        * Aspect Ratio: None Specified
        * Audio: Receives and reproduces, and/or outputs Dolby Digital audio

    Enhanced Definition Television (EDTV) Monitor: EDTV Monitor refers to a monitor or display with the following minimum performance attributes:

        * Display Scanning Format: Has active vertical scanning lines of 480 progressive (480p) or higher
        * Aspect Ratio: None specified
        * Audio: Receives and reproduces, and/or outputs Dolby Digital audio

    Standard Definition Television (SDTV): SDTV refers to a complete product/system with the following performance attributes:

        * Receiver: Receives ATSC terrestrial digital transmissions and decodes all ATSC Table 3 video formats, and produces a useable picture
        * Display Scanning Format: Has active vertical scanning lines less than that of EDTV
        * Aspect Ratio: None specified
        * Audio: Receives and reproduces usable audio

How to connect a PC to an HD-Ready Digital TV?

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If there is one question that we receive here on a daily basis, that would be "how do I hook up a PC to my HDTV?".  The value of being able to use the big screen in the family room as a PC monitor is compelling, entertainment melding regular broadcasts with web surfing, 3D gaming, DVD video playback and access to special features, and MP3 jukebox storage and playback.

The combination in theory sounds like a match made in heaven, a high frequency display and a computer, but manufacturers have not been so cooperative.  Recently, DVI based HDTV displays have appeared on the market which may allow you to by-pass this article, but video timing issues as explained still apply.  It is not a simple task, but one which is possible with a little persistence and more importantly, the right gadgets.

The introduction of the HDTV brought us the high-band Component input, otherwise known as Y-Pb-Pr.  While the internal working of the HDTV set had similarities to a PC monitor, the new format is not compatible with the PC standard of VGA otherwise known as RGBHV.  

It seemed that the two would never come together until RCA introduced their first HDTV tuner box, which prompted two manufacturers to step up to the plate to create the VGA to Component trascoder.  Originally designed as a solution to connect RCA's VGA based DTC-100 HDTV tuner to component based HDTV, the transcoder soon became popular with the PC and home theater enthusiasts that wanted to use their PC's DVD player and other entertainment applications on their brand new HD-Ready/HDTV.  The result is a product that will receive a computer/HDTV signal from RGB/VGA format, convert and re-send the signal to the Progressive Component (Y-Pb-Pr) input of HDTV sets.  The models of transcoders available from the two companies are listed below:

Audio Authority - 9A60 VGA to Component Converter
Key Digital - KD-VTCA3 VGA to Component Converter

Now, the caveats......

It's important to know the limitations of this solution as there are no existing standards between the two connection/signal types.  The important details are:

1.  This converter will not work on a standard analog NTSC interlaced TV. Your TV must be an HD-Ready set.

2.  Resolution is limited by the Digital TV used.  While the PC is capable of outputting high resolutions, the HD-Ready set is often fixed to the high-definition TV standards of 480p or 1080i at mere 60Hz cycle (known as refresh rate on a PC).  A proper signal must be generated from the PC to display an image, and not adhering to the signal frequency can damage your HDTV.

3.  The consumer TV often suffers from overscan, cutting of screen information that may make navigation difficult.  Image on the right below is an example of overscan.

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Overscanned image

The above limitations can be overcome providing that your PC's hardware can support special resolutions, and you are able to properly configure the output.  One resolution that will require no special modification is 640x480 (480p) @ 60Hz which should work on virtually all HD-Ready TV.  For those that want to use a higher resolutions (more ideal for web surfing and DVD playback), an application by Entech called PowerStrip can set custom resolutions/timing to match the optimal frequency of your HDTV (normally 1080i, sometimes 720p)

For more information on how to configure your HDTV to a PC, read Wayne Harrelson's Excellent Guide to PowerStrip.

Point of Interest:  Reverse transcoders are available to connect a Progressive Component output (Progressive Scan DVD, XBox) to RGB/VGA for use with a PC Monitor.

Audio Authority 9A62 Component to VGA Converter
Key Digital KD-CTCA3 Component to VGA Converter
Source: Digital Connection

And here's an extra bit from fellow forumer stringfellow:
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The connection method for usage for your videogame consoles is virtually the same as connection to PC, only that you dont have to tinker with Powerstrip , it is preset to the three popular HDTV modes, 480p, 720p and 1080i.


Thanks to stringfellow for the link and info.

So, please refer to this before starting any new threads on HDTVs and please post any questions about it here. Feel free to post further info here as well.
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QUOTE(Coconut @ Jan 31 2008, 06:08 PM)
@ninja : yup 7999 also, then just try to nego for fun with the salesman, then he give me 7500...still very expensive compare to Legend or adrian biggrin.gif
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legend SS2 do sell cheaper LCD's?
where im looking for 32" too for gaming
haven pay a visit at Legends scrad my hands itchy swipe cc
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Well I went to legend. But instead I found a shop a couple hundred bucks cheaper. The shop is beside Tesco Puchong called Mekatronik. I bought my Aquos there...
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Well I went to legend. But instead I found a shop a couple hundred bucks cheaper. The shop is beside Tesco Puchong called Mekatronik. I bought my Aquos there...
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You bought the A63M? How much?
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there's one shop offering lcd hd ready samsung 32" R7 for rm2200. is it a good deal?..he said
the promotion for chinese new year only...by next week the price will go up to normal price.
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by next week the price would even go lower, dun trust him
R7 is a phase out model, heck even its predecessor, R8 shud be phasing out soon as well
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which shop is that lol.. i went to a shop that said that also.. " cny promotions.. must get it this week.. "
the moment i saw the r7,i know that its and old model coz i've seen it long time ago

i end up getting the R8 tongue.gif stylish

but r8 getting phased out soon D: ohmy.gif

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R8 quite long liao lar
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post Feb 5 2008, 01:12 PM

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R7 black levels are BAD!!!! If u have a choice, don't get it.
R8 is not too bad..just the reds are over exaggerated but that can be solved by reducing the individual color levels.

Me waiting for PV80. I sure hope i don't have to wait long.

QUOTE(wunan @ Feb 5 2008, 10:17 AM)
there's one shop offering lcd hd ready samsung 32" R7 for rm2200. is it a good deal?..he said
the promotion for chinese new year only...by next week the price will go up to normal price.
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what price u get for the R8 and size? care to share?
the shop is here in penang at megamall prai.

QUOTE(uhavenot @ Feb 5 2008, 11:39 AM)
which shop is that lol.. i went to a shop that said that also.. " cny promotions.. must get it this week.. "
the moment i saw the r7,i know that its and old model coz i've seen it long time ago

i end up getting the R8  tongue.gif  stylish

but r8 getting phased out soon D: ohmy.gif
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i got mine for rm2600 with HDMI cable . Size 32" . Bought mine from SS2
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post Feb 5 2008, 02:21 PM

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i think pv80 shud be here soon, i read somebody bought the 70 @ 4599, not 5499 biggrin.gif
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Wow, sure signs that the PV70 is gonna be phased out soon.
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My suggestion is try keep out of Samsung LCD TV because of market pricing competition issue, they have gradually low grade their products & qualities. Instead you may consider on Toshiba, Sony or Sharp.....
You will notice the differences even on the product weight itself. I was enlighted by a close pal which working in Audio Video division.

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Hello guys,

can you advice me which model for 32" or 37" is good value for money. Want to watch astro and play ps3 on it.. thanks.

I got price from harvey norman 2799 - samsung R81
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QUOTE(abasan @ Feb 8 2008, 06:39 PM)
Hello guys,

can you advice me which model for 32" or 37" is good value for money. Want to watch astro and play ps3 on it.. thanks.

I got price from harvey norman 2799 - samsung R81
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I think for 2799 you can get the Sony Bravia V series 32" isn't it?

Depends on the place you gonna put your TV though. Bedroom, I would say 32" is nice enough. 37" is more for like a small living room.

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QUOTE(Ninja @ Feb 2 2008, 04:50 PM)
You bought the A63M? How much?
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I bought the 37' for RM 4000. Quite nice I might say.
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personally i think 32 is dem small, meaningless
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32" would be suitable for gaming in a small room and you are sitting about 4' away. For an average living hall, min I guess would be 40".
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Hi guys, any opinion on Samsung R81 32" for HD gaming, DVD and ASTRO? They have promotion now, guess new model coming out soon. Any news on when new model coming out? Thanks!
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Feb 12 2008, 09:57 AM)
personally i think 32 is dem small, meaningless
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bro, got meaning la..for peasant with small living hall like me tongue.gif

already tried 40 inch tv, too near for me and astro very bad, kenot tahan rclxub.gif

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bro saiga, u wan astro to be even better, get 26 " biggrin.gif

actually u can consider 37 if 40 is too large
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Ok thanks guys. My room is pretty small... and I would be sitting from about 5 feet away... watching astro some more... plus it won't blow a hole in my budget!

How about the price? Is samsung r81 a good model and is the price worth it? Is the Sony Bravia a better model?

thanks!
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personally i would avoid samsung
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Feb 13 2008, 11:46 AM)
personally i would avoid samsung
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Agree with u, either korean brand, their QC seem to b dropped..... doh.gif

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Feb 13 2008, 09:55 AM)
bro saiga, u wan astro to be even better, get 26 " biggrin.gif

actually u can consider 37 if 40 is too large
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but for movie so small ler.... tongue.gif
I've consider 37 inch, but to bad that time don't have that size for Sharp PX5M.
My wife alredi making noise, so kenot wait.Temporary nevermind la.But confirm next time
at least 42 inch icon_rolleyes.gif .Hopefully pioneer summore thumbup.gif

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brosaiga.... u mind me asking, wat size CRT u currently using?
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Feb 12 2008, 09:57 AM)
personally i think 32 is dem small, meaningless
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It's ok la. I had mine for almost 2.5 years already. At that time, 32 inchers cost a bomb.
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brosaiga.... u mind me asking, wat size CRT u currently using?
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I dun have any CRT@tv before, this Sharp LCD is my first tv tongue.gif
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QUOTE(cyclonekid @ Feb 11 2008, 10:10 PM)
I bought the 37' for RM 4000. Quite nice I might say.
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cyclonekid, u bought sharp lc37a63m in puchong???
this model is not available in m'sia as i know.

if this is d model u bought, how is d quality???
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Feb 12 2008, 09:57 AM)
personally i think 32 is dem small, meaningless
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what to do, my wallet small only cry.gif
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I may be picking the recently released LG 32LB9R/1 for my bedroom(32 inch is definitely the max I can go since I don't have a large enough space for anything else).

So, anyone has opinions on it? So far from reviews, its been pretty good. Quite a few says its even better than the Sony Bravia 32V300A.
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Exactly that, which is why I'm pondering to pick the LG up instead of the Sony since their prices are pretty close to each other.
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get one then. some LG monitor also got great reviews so no need to worry. biggrin.gif
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Prices for the new line of Panasonic Plasmas are out.

http://www2.panasonic.com/consumer-electro...000000000005702

Guess I'll aim for the TH-42PZ80U. 1080p for USD1600. Cool!! tongue.gif
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welwitchia... if only if its selling here for 1600 usd....
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Feb 17 2008, 11:22 PM)
me also hoping for the kuro to sell @ panny price here
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time to go projector 80-100inches..la.. you already got HD42 plasma, so even if you get a new 42" kuro, you won't get a "new" toy effect... cos your eyes have "been there done that"..just deeper blacks, but same ol 42" size picture effect..
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who says i wan the 42? kekekek just kiddinglar..

next stop, projector biggrin.gif
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RX,

Right now u are using the PV70 ar?

It's an old model right? and the resolutio is 1024*768 only....how does it fare with a PS3 game?
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yep thinking of getting pv70 also.. how does it fare?
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u cant really say old model , its the current model in msia, as the replacement aint here yet biggrin.gif

yes, it has 1024 X 768 only, same as pioneer 42 inches plasma, but its HD alrite, eve though the maths doesnt add up

how does it fare? hmmm, for tat price, i must say its good
but..... since u are willing to fork out abt rm 5k for a 42 incher.. whynot got projector? for 5 k u shud be able to have the projector and screen and has sizes up to 100" anytime
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Feb 23 2008, 10:11 AM)
u cant really say old model , its the current model in msia, as the replacement aint here yet biggrin.gif

yes, it has 1024 X 768 only, same as pioneer 42 inches plasma, but its HD alrite, eve though the maths doesnt add up

how does it fare? hmmm, for tat price, i must say its good
but..... since u are willing to fork out abt rm 5k for a 42 incher.. whynot got projector? for 5 k u shud be able to have the projector and screen and has sizes up to 100" anytime
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My main use for it will be for PS3 games and only sometimes (i mean really sometimes) for blu-ray movie...most of the time only anime watching via DLNA from PC.

So getting a Projector is a bit inappropriate...coz I think a projector won't be able to 'tahan' my gaming session that sometimes can stretch up to 8 hours in one sitting..although it may be once a week.

Furthermore my 2nd floor common room isn't that big for a projector anyway.....and I think the price for PV70 the last time I saw at Jusco was only aabout 4599 I think..and that's before any discount...and my current target is the 32D300a...which is priced at around 3800...top up only about 800 can get a 42 incher plasma already...

but I'm worried bout the contrast and resolution...as I remember for plasma...we really need to control the amount of light in the room...the darker the better they say...
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4599? shit... here still 5499 sad.gif

contrast and resolution nothing to worry abt, but.... IF u really game for 8 hours straight, go get a LCD , its more suitable for u
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Will those HD ready 32" LCD TV sets, priced from RM2300 to 2999, able to accept PS3 HDMI inputs with 1080i/p with downscaling? OR will it just display it in 720p instead?

32" LCD TV with 1366*768 resolution... can they display 1920*1080 after downscaling?
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First Panasonic PX80 (successor to the PV70) review is out but in german. Link below translated with Google.

http://64.233.179.104/translate_c?hl=en&la...php%3Fid%3D2082

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How much is a Full HD sharp 32" cost now??
Pls guide...Need it as PC monitor cum TV...Review from Newegg isn't bad at all biggrin.gif

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductRevie...N82E16889101108
I went to BEST today. I do not seem to be able get it in Malaysia as yet... vmad.gif

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wow now there is 32" with full hd already?
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wow now there is 32" with full hd already?
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32" Full HD was released some time ago

http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news_details.php?id=12958

But it's just that we don't have it in Malaysia only. We have sub-standard LCD TV in this dumping ground. vmad.gif
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Harvey Norman got offer buy LCD/Plasma TV free bluray player or DVD player.
Bluray player i think only for Full HD panel TV while DVD player for HD ready one.
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hi all, i wish to upgrade my LG 32LB9R 32" LCD to 42" LCD or Plasma, cos i think 32" is too small for me.
i mainly use for BD, n sometimes games from ps3, 360, wii. astro for sports.

any recommendations? thanks.
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QUOTE(boreclub @ Feb 26 2008, 08:44 PM)
hi all, i wish to upgrade my LG 32LB9R 32" LCD to 42" LCD or Plasma, cos i think 32" is too small for me.
i mainly use for BD, n sometimes games from ps3, 360, wii. astro for sports.

any recommendations? thanks.
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you should get 50" Plasma
is fit to ur pocket and house brows.gif brows.gif

my LG32 Plasma short review here
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QUOTE(alexwlh @ Feb 26 2008, 10:39 PM)
you should get 50" Plasma
is fit to ur pocket and house  brows.gif  brows.gif

my LG32 Plasma short review here
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/549169/+80
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50 inci is too costly, i might opt for 42 inci.

anybody else can gimme some recommend base from ur own review?

thankx.
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Hey guys. Anybody have the Phillips 37" or 42" 1080p lcd tv? Is it any good. So far in best denki the 37" 1080p sells for rm5700+ and 42" 1080p sells for rm6999. I know ss2 most probably can get it cheaper but I wanna know how good is phillip tv.

Another option is sharp aquos 42" 1080p but thats rm1k more... sad.gif
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bore, wats ur budget?
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my budget is within 5k, can? if not slightly higher also can smile.gif
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5k budget ar?
wat are ur sources for playing?
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5k budget ar?
wat are ur sources for playing?
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i mainly play BD movie n sometimes astro soccer match,
sometimes wii, 360..

thanks for reply.
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oppss, sorry

if 5K, then get projector lor biggrin.gif
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actually i'm quite like the pana 42pv70h。is there any si fu here using this model or got any review bout this?
any1 know wat's the different between this tv model with it's brother pv700h?
the SRP for this model is 5499 compare with 8999 pv700h (if not mistaken)
big price difference yet similiar panel, chip set...etc. i dun think an extra hdmi port n card reader can cost so much different.

stil thinking of this plasma or full hd lcd......

suggestions and reviews r muchly appreciated here smile.gif
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me using pv70 lor...

why dun wan projector?

pv700h fully import from japan, pv70h from spore
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oh, how much u bought ur pv70h? is there any complaint from u? how bout use it for wii n 360?

i dunno anything bout projector....paiseh... is it better than tv?
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QUOTE(boreclub @ Feb 29 2008, 08:32 PM)
oh, how much u bought ur pv70h? is there any complaint from u? how bout use it for wii n 360?

i dunno anything bout projector....paiseh... is it better than tv?
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1) U need a very dark room to unleashed it's potential (or maybe wait until night time sweat.gif )
2) The bulb lifetime is kinda short compared to plasma or LCD, maybe hv to change it every 2-3 years or so (each bulb cost you more than RM1k sweat.gif )
3) Must hv a big room/wall so that you can projected to it's glorious purpose (like the cinema sweat.gif )

Actually, projector is great if you can over come those problems, in another word, if you are filthy rich brows.gif .....am i right rx? whistling.gif
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neo, salah biggrin.gif
and im not filith rich, i go for budgeted entry levels items, i live within my meanss

1) preferably nite time, but u dun really need a really dark room, some ambience lighting is fine
2) the bulbs are more cheaper, the one im aiming at, the bulb is less than rm 600
3) no need wall also can one, room not neccesary have to be big as well

boreclub, i have no issues with my panny pv 70, im ok with it, just tat wen u go HD, u wan larger screen, especiially wen u watch movies in 2.35:1 aspect, u lagi dulan

cos the panny (i bought @ 5.2k sept 07 + 5 years warranty) shud be ard 5k or less now, u r getting a 42 incher, if u go projector, u can go much more than tat, but @ a lower pricing (budget projectors, sony AW10 and hd65 optoma - less than 4k)

once u view HD in large sizes, u won go back

if u really interested, i do remember i come across Wii connected to the projectors i mention above, i can find the link for u to have a look at the effect

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at the mean time, i prefer the tv instead of projector cos i will put tis tv in the living room. projector seem wierd tongue.gif
but after i got my own house, i might build a av room, n that time, projector will be my 1st choice.
i think i'll go for pv70h this time smile.gif if no other model being recommended, reviewed.

btw, i'm still interested in the wii-connect-to-projector URL. please?

thanks.
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A high-end LCD/DLP Projector is so much better than any LCD/Plasma around. Especially when you bring your size up tp the 100" range. The amount of money you saved versus the 100" Plasma Panasonic has is immense.
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boreclub, ok then, gd luck
heres the link
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread....t=947156&page=7
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at the mean time, i prefer the tv instead of projector cos i will put tis tv in the living room. projector seem wierd tongue.gif
but after i got my own house, i might build a av room, n that time, projector will be my 1st choice.
i think i'll go for pv70h this time smile.gif if no other model being recommended, reviewed.

btw, i'm still interested in the wii-connect-to-projector URL. please?

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hi all
i have a question
between this 2 lcd model which 1 is better for playing ps3 of course
samsung LA32S81B or sharp LC32A53M
thx for your help..
i really appreciate it
really pening.....


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sharp LC32A53M la ofcoz! go get it now...

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GET AN OFFER 4 tHOSIBA lcd 37" AT rm3300.iS IT A GOOD BUY?MODEL 37A3500E .
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Offer where..??
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Mar 4 2008, 02:48 PM)
fast fast buy
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Any review to c?cant find here. sad.gif


Added on March 6, 2008, 1:55 pm
QUOTE(shumaky @ Mar 4 2008, 02:54 PM)
Offer where..??
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In Kuantan. biggrin.gif


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tutup mata and pay
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scarelah.people say ,cheap things no good,goods things no cheap.wait and see can get cheaper or not. tongue.gif


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base on ur theory, if it goes even cheaper,it means no good lor, then buy for wat?
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base on ur theory, if it goes even cheaper,it means no good lor, then buy for wat?
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but one piece of my personal preference advice, avoid samsung biggrin.gif
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gd luck albert biggrin.gif

but one piece of my personal preference advice, avoid samsung biggrin.gif
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but one piece of my personal preference advice, avoid samsung biggrin.gif
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err... I think rx correct, samsung onli design nice. for lcd, buy SHARP thumbup.gif
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Of this 3 models, which is the best. All are sub RM4k.
Tosh 37A3500, Philips 37TA2800, or LG 37LC7R.
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err... I think rx correct, samsung onli design nice. for lcd, buy SHARP  thumbup.gif
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i will take toshiba though, over philips and lg

welwitchia, u dun understand me enuff, im more a pioneer fanboy
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Hmm... tosh... Will go take a 2nd look again today at harvey.
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aiya, then how come u ended up with a PV70 instead of a Kuro? tongue.gif

Shumacky : Wait a little longer.. when PV080 gets released, the PV70's price will drop like dead flies.. I believe a PV70 should be better than all the models that u've mentioned.

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welwitchia, u dun understand me enuff, im more a pioneer fanboy
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FYI

32" LCD TV Price List from Legend Electrical Centre, SS2, PJ

Sharp
LC32A53M = RM2900
LC32PX5M = RM2700
LC32BX5M = RM2200

Samsung
LA32R71B = RM2080
LA32R81B = RM2580

Sony
KLV32S310A = RM2399
KLV32V300A = RM2999
KLV32D300A = RM3600

LG 32LC7R = RM2150

Toshiba 32A3500 = RM2150

Panasonic
TX32LX75MK = RM2299
TX32LE7MK = RM2100
TX32LX70MK = RM2150
TX32LX700MK = RM3500

JVC LT32EX17 = RM2260
Sanyo LCD32CA8Z = RM2000
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QUOTE(albertonia @ Mar 7 2008, 09:06 AM)
already have one.second tv for my kid. biggrin.gif
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Tot, u should survey prices for 37" also. smile.gif
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QUOTE(shumaky @ Mar 7 2008, 09:14 PM)
Tot, u should survey prices for 37" also. smile.gif
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my budget only permits me to get a 32"....just go to Legend SS2 and you'll be surprise that their prices on LCD TVs/Plasmas are the cheapest in town. edvpc bought the 32" Sony V series last 2 weeks from them for only RM2950 with free HDMI cable worth RM1xx whereas Harvey Norman, Sony Stlye and Best Denki are selling it for RM3499.

I got 2 quotation for 37" LCD from them...

Sony KLV-37S310 = RM3900
Panasonic TX37LX75MK = RM3400

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^ They accept card rite..?? got any xtra charges for card pymts..?
32" abit small for my living room. Cant sit on the couch n play.. need to move nearer to the screen if I get a 32".
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yes, they do accept credit card and if I'm not mistaken they'll charge xtra 2.5% or 3% and 5% if you opt for 0% interest. Their prices are still negotiable (depends on your bargaining skills). 37" Toshiba is around RM3500 IIRC.
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bro tot, i tot somebody posted the 37" tosh sellin for 3.3k only?

welwitchia... budget constraint lar... yesterday wifey saw the kuro again...i kena t1u for buyin the panny sad.gif
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Mar 8 2008, 11:21 AM)
bro tot, i tot somebody posted the 37" tosh sellin for 3.3k only?

welwitchia... budget constraint lar... yesterday wifey saw the kuro again...i kena t1u for buyin the panny sad.gif
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guees what,rx330?confirm buy .Boss offer to pay cash only RM3100.quickly pay and cabut. rclxm9.gif somemore free s video cable. rclxms.gif
what a good bargain. thumbup.gif
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Out of all lcd tv makers, which one makes the best in terms of performance? and which one that has all-package-in-one attributes (performance, price, reliability etc...) Perhaps you guys know better about this...and probably you guys could recommend a model or two?

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Went survey at Harveys today n noticed that prices there are Xpensive.
Best Denki offer the best price among Senq n Harvey's.
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Yoiks! Looks like every loves Kuros but not buying enough of them. Pioneer Ceases In House Plama Display Production
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wah... tot, 37 for 3.1k nia....

spore it fair, 32 inchers all going for 7-800sgd nia... dem cheap
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QUOTE(shumaky @ Mar 9 2008, 10:04 PM)
Went survey at Harveys today n noticed that prices there are Xpensive.
Best Denki offer the best price among Senq n Harvey's.
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actually harvey pricing is on par with outside shop if u r paying it with 0% installment plan
i usually ask them to check their system whats the cheapest price they can give me with me standing beside the comp and peep tongue.gif
whatever the comp price display , minus abt 10-15% that should be the lowest price. Tips from a fren who works in Harvey Norman laugh.gif

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got any 32' LG plasma user?
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Here's a simple review from 3rotor on 32" LG Plasma

QUOTE(3rotor @ Feb 28 2008, 05:28 PM)
I have personally tested the tv in alex's place, the picture quality is better than any 32" lcd i've seen so far,  it is just like watching a high res crt, image are very clear and sharp, no blurry image, ghosting etc, even after long hour of testing (5 hours straight) my eyes didnt feel hurt/tired at all, component and hdmi can display in 480p,720p and 1080i, tested lower res' source the ps2 and wii using component, there are no blurry image or color washed out probelm, it is actually very good, i like it a lot, not like lcd tv u get very suck image while displaying source lower than 720p, but there are 2 problems with this tv, when displaying ps3 source in 720p/1080i using hdmi, it seems like the source image is larger than the screen (horizontally) , you cant see the small part at the left and right side, it is like u already zoomed in the picture a little bit and u only get to see 95/100% of the source image (horizontally), so small part from left and right side is missing, we only notice this problem while playing gt5 and virtual fighter 5, because the position bar(gt5) and character name(vr5) of the games are placed at the very end of the screen, it does not affect gameplay but to be honest i'm sure not all the people can accept this, the other problem is while displaying pc source at 1024 x 768 resolution the words/characters appear to be quite blur, made it a bit hard to read, even if you set the font size larger it is still the same, 640 x 480 has no problem but the resolution is too low for web surfing.

this is my small review for alex's tv la, for picture quality and sd source compatibility definitely current gen 32" lcd tvs cannot compare, the major problem is cant display pc resolution properly.
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how bout philips 42" plasma tv? i'm considering to buy LG 42PFP5532
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QUOTE(Synco @ Mar 10 2008, 10:33 AM)
actually harvey pricing is on par with outside shop if u r paying it with 0% installment plan
i usually ask them to check their system whats the cheapest price they can give me with me standing beside the comp and peep tongue.gif
whatever the comp price display , minus abt 10-15% that should be the lowest price. Tips from a fren who works in Harvey Norman  laugh.gif
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Didnt know that the price displayed can bargain2 one.. hehe
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sorry didn't see this thread earlier.

i got a v good deal on philips 42PFL9532. its the one with the ambient lighting. full HD 1080p, perfect pixel HD engine, 100Hz, 3ms time and 3HDMI.

any tots on this? a friend said philips is bad brand. sigh. just for watching movies and ps3. thanks.
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QUOTE(tot31 @ Mar 10 2008, 04:01 PM)
Here's a simple review from 3rotor on 32" LG Plasma
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QUOTE(g-string @ Mar 11 2008, 12:16 AM)
sorry didn't see this thread earlier.

i got a v good deal on philips 42PFL9532. its the one with the ambient lighting. full HD 1080p, perfect pixel HD engine, 100Hz, 3ms time and 3HDMI.

any tots on this? a friend said philips is bad brand. sigh. just for watching movies and ps3. thanks.
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Hey how much was that?
Mind sharing? biggrin.gif
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how bout philips 42" plasma tv? i'm considering to buy LG 42PFP5532
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i also considered teh plasma, but the lcd from philips was nicer to see. but just found out from forum that LCD not good for astro cry.gif but when watching movies or ps3, very nice.

so did u buy it yet?


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Hey how much was that?
Mind sharing? biggrin.gif
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Just bought a KLV32V300A.. Pretty nice colors after some calibration..

Anyway, I have a question I want to ask, but I don't think I should start a new thread just for that..

I'm wondering where can I buy (in Selangor) 3.5mm stereo jack plug (Male to Male) and also a VGA connector (to connect my PC to my TV)?

Thanks in advance.
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got those 32inch Pana 700MK at legend?

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QUOTE(daTUK_SErI @ Mar 14 2008, 03:59 PM)
got those 32inch Pana 700MK at legend?
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yup, they're selling for RM3.5k (the price I got was 2 weeks before and it might has changed)...Legend is now selling Sony Bravia KLV-32V300A for RM2,750 rclxm9.gif and they are selling Bravia KLV-32D300A for RM3.6k...After reading a review on this TV ( http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/Sony-KDL32D3000/ )...I might go for this one...

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Tot...we go together this mth end and both buy the 32D300..maybe can get better discount...okeh?
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how much is the D now?
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@lapaq...I've made my decision that I'm going for bigger LCD i.e 40", so KLV-40D300A (Legend is selling at RM6.4K, Sony is selling at RM7k) is now on my radar and have to wait another 2 months (as I'm short RM2k plus).

@rx, like I posted before that Legend is selling KLV-32D300A at RM3.6k and it's negotiable, last time ed was offered RM3.4k when he was buying his KLV-32V300A there.
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IF that's the case then I beli dulu lah...kenot wait another two mth....kenot tahan already...want to put the tv in my bedroom so can play while on my bed....

Pity dun have 37D300 if not I'm buying that one...40" is too much for me.
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uik... tot, going bigger? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(lapaq @ Mar 19 2008, 05:12 PM)
IF that's the case then I beli dulu lah...kenot wait another two mth....kenot tahan already...want to put the tv in my bedroom so can play while on my bed....

Pity dun have 37D300 if not I'm buying that one...40" is too much for me.
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hehehhe..I'm afraid that 32" will be too small if I put it at my living hall so that's why I have to get a 40" as the D series doesn't have 37" (only S series has that size).

@lapaq, just go ahead...I'm also actually can't tahan but must be strong....amazon.com is selling KDL-40XBR4 (same model for KLV-40X300A here) for USD2000 and the shipping cost from US to Malaysia is around USD666 so the total price after conversion roughly is about RM8,531. Sony is selling it at RM15k.....that's about RM6,468 difference....the tv is multi voltage, i.e 110V-240V so don't need any stepdown voltage converter....very tempting... brows.gif
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it justify the whopping ass price tag laugh.gif laugh.gif whistling.gif

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QUOTE(tot31 @ Mar 19 2008, 05:37 PM)
hehehhe..I'm afraid that 32" will be too small if I put it at my living hall so that's why I have to get a 40" as the D series doesn't have 37" (only S series has that size).

@lapaq, just go ahead...I'm also actually can't tahan but must be strong....amazon.com is selling KDL-40XBR4 (same model for KLV-40X300A here) for USD2000 and the shipping cost from US to Malaysia is around USD666 so the total price after conversion roughly is about RM8,531. Sony is selling it at RM15k.....that's about RM6,468 difference....the tv is multi voltage, i.e 110V-240V so don't need any stepdown voltage converter....very tempting...  brows.gif
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QUOTE(g-string @ Mar 12 2008, 10:40 AM)
i also considered teh plasma, but the lcd from philips was nicer to see. but just found out from forum that LCD not good for astro  cry.gif  but when watching movies or ps3, very nice.

so did u buy it yet?

nope..not yet..might be getting Pana TH37PX80
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QUOTE(tot31 @ Mar 19 2008, 05:37 PM)
hehehhe..I'm afraid that 32" will be too small if I put it at my living hall so that's why I have to get a 40" as the D series doesn't have 37" (only S series has that size).

@lapaq, just go ahead...I'm also actually can't tahan but must be strong....amazon.com is selling KDL-40XBR4 (same model for KLV-40X300A here) for USD2000 and the shipping cost from US to Malaysia is around USD666 so the total price after conversion roughly is about RM8,531. Sony is selling it at RM15k.....that's about RM6,468 difference....the tv is multi voltage, i.e 110V-240V so don't need any stepdown voltage converter....very tempting...  brows.gif
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Is it really safe to purchase the TV via Amazon? what if we get the 40D3000 from there? cheaper? Tax wise...okeh or not?

QUOTE(earthdome @ Mar 20 2008, 01:32 AM)
nope..not yet..might be getting Pana TH37PX80
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Got another sale for KDL-40XBR4 at bhphoto...here's the price breakdown

KDL-40XBR4 = $1,895 = RM6,096 (30% tax = RM1,829)

Shipping (from USA to Malaysia) = $455.20 = RM1,456

Total price without tax = RM7,552

Total price inclusive 30% tax = RM9,381

*price conversion based on $1 = RM3.2

Even after 30% tax, the price for 40" Bravia X is still way much cheaper than buying it here, (RM15,000 - RM9381 = RM5619) and that's a huge savings.

@lapaq, if your main priority is watching HD movies than playing game (70%-80% watching movies / 30%-20% playing games) then get a plasma otherwise get a LCD tv. Panasonic TH42PX80 review.

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QUOTE(earthdome @ Mar 20 2008, 01:32 AM)
nope..not yet..might be getting Pana TH37PX80
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can i ask, if use sony KLV32V300A to play ps3, will it be projected in 720p OR 1080i?

thanks for the answers in advance.
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If you use HDMI cable, KLV-32V300A can accept 1080p video signal and downscale it back to the native resolution i.e 1366 x 768. In other words, you can set your PS3 up to 1080p with KLV-32V300A.
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QUOTE(tot31 @ Mar 20 2008, 12:02 PM)
Got another sale for KDL-40XBR4 at bhphoto...here's the price breakdown

KDL-40XBR4 = $1,895 = RM6,096 (30% tax = RM1,829)

Shipping (from USA to Malaysia) = $455.20 = RM1,456

Total price without tax = RM7,552

Total price inclusive 30% tax = RM9,381

*price conversation based on $1 = RM3.2

Even after 30% tax, the price for 40" Bravia X is still way much cheaper than buying it here, (RM15,000 - RM9381 = RM5619) and that's a huge savings.

@lapaq, if your main priority is watching HD movies than playing game (70%-80% watching movies / 30%-20% playing games) then get a plasma otherwise get a LCD tv. Panasonic TH42PX80 review.
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So bro tot, is there anyone that you know managed to order lcd/plasma online to Malaysia? As you mention the price online even after tax and shipment is really tempting.
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@ ICDP, you can do it yourself. Just go to bphotovideo.com and make the order there and they'll send it to you. One thing for you to really consider before buying things from US, there'll be no warranty from SONY Malaysia. If you really want to take this risk then go ahead.

Another thing to consider is, all US tvs only support NTSC color system so if you're planning to watch Astro then forget about it as ASTRO is transmitting PAL color system. All tvs sold here are multi system i.e NTSC 3.58, PAL, SECAM / (AV In) NTSC 4.43, PAL 60
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40 X 300a, so ex meh? i tot u buy outside also abt 10k?
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The Legend Electrical Center is at SS2, PJ.

@rx, the cheapest you can get KLV-40X300A here in KL is around RM13k. So buying it from US is definitely cheaper.
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Sony doesn't have international warranty for all their electronic/electrical products.
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Mar 21 2008, 03:14 PM)
so tis worth the 5k difference?
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so tis worth the 5k difference?
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just got my 32d300a from best 1utama for 3199 only. i'm so surprised. at first the price is for a display set then i asked if there's a new set coz i dont want the display sef. they checked and the last one ada in their store. after goreng2 a bit, price is the same! then goreng a bit more got the 5 yr warranty too!

cant wait to fire it up once i'm home now outstation
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QUOTE(lapaq @ Mar 24 2008, 12:32 AM)
just got my 32d300a from best 1utama for 3199 only. i'm so surprised. at first the price is for a display set then i asked if there's a new set coz i dont want the display sef. they checked and the last one ada in their store. after goreng2 a bit, price is the same! then goreng a bit more got the 5 yr warranty too!

cant wait to fire it up once i'm home  now outstation
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tot, is this the model that we have been discussed before? very cheap lah..
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QUOTE(daTUK_SErI @ Mar 24 2008, 10:11 PM)
tot, is this the model that we have been discussed before? very cheap lah..
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yup, very cheap indeed, he's very lucky. I went to a Sony Authorized dealer at Wangsa Maju (near my house) today and they quoted me the KLV-32D300A for RM3.4k plus a HDMI cable and delivery for free. At first they quoted for RM3.8k but after bargaining that's the best price they can give it to me, so I will pay for the deposit tomorrow. Since I'm not going to put the LCD TV in my living hall, I've to settle for the 32" as the 40" seems to big for my gaming room (you've seen it biggrin.gif ). Furthermore ASTRO still the best to be watched on my 29" Panny SDTV.
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ohh.. 40inch is way too big for your gaming room.. hahahahh... but 32inch is totally perfect for you room... buy why you didnt ask legend first, maybe they will give you another special price.. brows.gif

p/s: outstation, in Miri right now... waaaaaaa
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QUOTE(daTUK_SErI @ Mar 24 2008, 11:09 PM)
ohh.. 40inch is way too big for your gaming room.. hahahahh... but 32inch is totally perfect for you room... buy why you didnt ask legend first, maybe they will give you another special price.. brows.gif

p/s: outstation, in Miri right now... waaaaaaa
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lapaq already went there and they said they don't have anymore stock and Sony is not going to restock it....hopefully that shop can find a unit for me....if not .... cry.gif . That shop quoted KLV-32V300A for RM2750 and a HDMI cable for free.

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ayooo.. totally bad news for me.... V series pun V series lah...

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ayooo.. totally bad news for me.... V series pun V series lah...
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Well, try to call other best denki stores..they are in the process of getting rid of the model as a new model is coming mid or end april....and new model price you all know the price laaa kan....

They said the new model features wise is not that diff...only asthetic...but you never know....maybe they just said that to 'trick' me into buying their last unit....

Better get a D series....V series tak best laaa....beza pun 3-4 ratus jaaa....a few phone calls and a few visit to shops will is at least worth that much.

p/s: I tried to ask for a free HDMI too at when I bought my tv...but it seems either they duwan to give me any since I've got a good deal already or they are really out of stock...

p/p/s: Yup...my ASTRO will only be hooked to my WEGA 29"...which is for my wife use...me...only hooked to the PS3 and PC...hehehe...can now become the king of my tv...if not I'm the queen and my wife is the king....
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Err..guys, anyone of u know about the Sony KLV-46W400A ??
I've practically given up the prospect of getting the Panasonic PV80. I'm thinking of getting a 1080p display and doubling it as my PC screen (I only do occasional surfing..most of the time turning it on to BT only).

I can't seem to find any reviews on it. Will be getting it most likely in June/July. Hopefully the price would have fallen more by then. biggrin.gif
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if i cannot find this D series anymore, probably i will go for sharp LC32A53M brows.gif
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QUOTE(daTUK_SErI @ Mar 25 2008, 12:54 PM)
if i cannot find this D series anymore, probably i will go for sharp LC32A53M brows.gif
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Err..guys, anyone of u know about the Sony KLV-46W400A ??
I've practically  given up the prospect of getting the Panasonic PV80. I'm thinking of getting a 1080p display and doubling it as my PC screen (I only do occasional surfing..most of the time turning it on to BT only).

I can't seem to find any reviews on it. Will be getting it most likely in June/July. Hopefully the price would have fallen more by then.  biggrin.gif
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By then, a new W series will have come out already and being new...the price also new...hehehe icon_idea.gif

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not yet lapaq, OS right now... huhuhuhuh... even if they have stock, i still cannot buy those lcd. im far away from home... huuhuhuhuhu
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At least they can save one for you.....try laa..who knows...untung sabut timbul...batu tenggelam
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Went to the electrical shop near Wangsa Maju just now and paid RM100 deposit for the 32D300A. They managed to get one for me...phew...what a relieve.... rclxm9.gif
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Muahahahahah....good for you....do they have extra? maybe can book one for Datuk Seri?
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QUOTE(lapaq @ Mar 26 2008, 10:53 AM)
Muahahahahah....good for you....do they have extra? maybe can book one for Datuk Seri?
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bro lapaq, D series quite nice for movies, so better u beli BD banyak2 rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

congrats tot for the new tv, but why 32, 40 la thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(PrinceOfPersia @ Mar 26 2008, 02:25 PM)
bro lapaq, D series quite nice for movies, so better u beli BD banyak2  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif

congrats tot for the new tv, but why 32, 40 la  thumbup.gif
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Thanks thanks...already have a few BD... thumbup.gif

This for my bedroom/study room/smallish gaming&BD room (haven't decide yet) laa...furthermore...40" is way out of my budget...thinking aboutt it...can buy punya...but then when think about it again...better use the money for something else...

like buying my wife a nice necklace ker...it's been sometime since I bought her something nice...

p/s: if the D series have 37" I'd go for it....but 40" is too much...
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saiga, spore not much difference for sony, but pioneer, yes
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Really? I'm not familiar with sony price coz last time I was checking the price for samsung and sharp lcd tv. Pioneer? It's your dream tv bro,why wait? drool.gif thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Mar 25 2008, 01:39 PM)
saiga, spore not much difference for sony, but pioneer, yes
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Bro RX, I called the Pioneer S'pore and they told me the pricing.

Kuro LX-508 - 50" Full HD SGD 14,999
Kuro LX-608 - 60" Full HD SGD 19,999

Sama with price here lah bro.

If not can take 1 day leave and road trip to S'pore edy sad.gif
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Mar 27 2008, 12:12 PM)
u mind telling me who u called? those are retail pricing ler
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I called Pioneer Signapore, they mentioned that the price can be reduced to around 10% from the retail which is the same as here.
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Just received my KLV-32D300A.....according to the shop they still a few units available...so Datuk Seri jgn tunggu lama2. If you really want it just come to my hse and I'll take you to the shop....

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QUOTE(tot31 @ Mar 27 2008, 07:24 PM)
Just received my KLV-32D300A.....according to the shop they still a few units available...so Datuk Seri jgn tunggu lama2. If you really want it just come to my hse and I'll take you to the shop....

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Congrats....good model....very very good model....those who have this is very lucky guy...especially if he got it for only RM3199.... icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(tot31 @ Mar 27 2008, 07:24 PM)
Just received my KLV-32D300A.....according to the shop they still a few units available...so Datuk Seri jgn tunggu lama2. If you really want it just come to my hse and I'll take you to the shop....

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Congrats Bro Tot, why gambar kotak only, we want to see the full setup thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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Really...you and rx prefer projector? even to play games?
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The PX80? Its already out in Malaysia? I would like to look at one..even though I've more or less decided on a KLV-46W400 now.. where did u get u'rs?

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i bought it in europe.. sry..i dunno if it's out yet in malaysia..
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How long can a projector 'project' video in a stretch?

and how long will the 'bulb' last on average?

Is it really viable for hard core game playing?
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lapaq, i think u stick to LCD better biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Mar 29 2008, 10:59 AM)
lapaq, i think u stick to LCD better biggrin.gif
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Muahahahah..

Though..I'm planing/saving up marnee for a projector set-up at my place tho...only thig needed is a nice projector and a white screen...strictly for watching movies...

ona side note...

The three HDMI setting in PS3

1. Superwhite
2. RGB = full/limited
3. RGB/YUY setting

all tv support this? or only certain tv? what about 32D300a..support ke?

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it shud support the super white thing
i know W series support the xycc dunno wat thing liao

bro, porjector + bluray = priceless
even my wife agree to tat
she says HD projector are built for blu rays, but this woman banned me from getting one sad.gif
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Mar 29 2008, 11:34 AM)
it shud support the super white thing
i know W series support the xycc dunno wat thing liao

bro, porjector + bluray = priceless
even my wife agree to tat
she says HD projector are built for blu rays, but this woman banned me from getting one sad.gif
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period lar (no, i dun mean kitar haid)
it aint tat cheap either , and i haven told her abt the bulb costs tongue.gif
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Hi guys, I'm looking at 1080p LCD / Plasma panels. Is the Philips any good? I saw in the papers that they are having promo.

42PFL9532/98 - RM 12,999 (out of my league I think)
47PFL7422/98 - RM 7999
42PFL7432/98 - RM 6499

What's the difference between the 1st and 3rd Philips 42" model?

Any comments on other similar Toshiba / Sharp and Sony models? I've seen Sony high end models (1080p capable) being very expensive.
Thanks.
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QUOTE(lapaq @ Mar 29 2008, 11:08 AM)
Muahahahah..

Though..I'm planing/saving up marnee for a projector set-up at my place tho...only thing needed is a nice projector and a white screen...strictly for watching movies...

ona side note...

The three HDMI setting in PS3

1. Superwhite
2. RGB = full/limited
3. RGB/YUY setting

all tv support this? or only certain tv? what about 32D300a..support ke?
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lapaq, 32D300A does support those features....you can just try with it and the results are great....I'm also using my D series as the second monitor to my PC (dual monitor setup) aside with with my Dell 2208WFP...here is my settings for the D series, you can try it...

HDMI 1 Set- Up
Picture Mode = Standard
Backlight = 8
Picture = 75
Brightness = 55
Color = 60
Color Temp = Warm 1
Sharpness = 15
Noise Reduction = Off
MPGEG Noise Reduction = Off

Advance Settings
Black Color = Low
Adv. Contrast Enhancer = Low
Gamma = Medium
Clear White = Low
Live Color = Low
Color Space = Wide

Motion Enhancer = Standard
Cinema Drive = Auto 1
Game Mode = Off (when playing BD), On (when playing games)
Power Saving Settings = Low
Light Sensor = Off

PC Set - Up
Display Mode = Video
Backlight = 8
Picture = 75
Brightness = 55
Color Temp = Neutral

Power Savings = Low
Light Sensor = Off
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QUOTE(tot31 @ Mar 29 2008, 09:44 PM)
lapaq, 32D300A does support those features....you can just try with it and the results are great....I'm also using my D series as the second monitor to my PC (dual monitor setup) aside with with my Dell 2208WFP...here is my settings for the D series, you can try it...

HDMI 1 Set- Up
Picture Mode = Standard
Backlight = 8
Picture = 75
Brightness = 55
Color = 60
Color Temp = Warm 1
Sharpness = 15
Noise Reduction = Off
MPGEG Noise Reduction = Off

Advance Settings
Black Color = Low
Adv. Contrast Enhancer = Low
Gamma = Medium
Clear White = Low
Live Color = Low
Color Space = Wide

Motion Enhancer = Standard
Cinema Drive = Auto 1
Game Mode = Off (when playing BD), On (when playing games)
Power Saving Settings = Low
Light Sensor = Off

PC Set - Up
Display Mode = Video
Backlight = 8
Picture = 75
Brightness = 55
Color Temp = Neutral

Power Savings = Low
Light Sensor = Off
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Thanks for the setting...I'll try it later tomorrow...see if it's suit my eyes..

here's a setting recommended by a review site...for movies specifically...

click here

Oh and the motion enhancer is super good....I like it very much...

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ive question bout the resolution of the LCD tv...if the LCD spec 1366 x 768....so for my xbox360 ive to set the resolution 720p rite...or i can set it up to 1080p?

sorry if the question bit tak sesuai or etc.
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QUOTE(lapaq @ Mar 30 2008, 02:02 AM)
Thanks for the setting...I'll try it later tomorrow...see if it's suit my eyes..

here's a setting recommended by a review site...for movies specifically...

click here

Oh and the motion enhancer is super good....I like it very much...
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I've tried that settings but they didn't suit to my eyes.....and yeah the Motion Flow Plus is definitely super great....
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QUOTE(tot31 @ Mar 29 2008, 09:44 PM)
lapaq, 32D300A does support those features....you can just try with it and the results are great....I'm also using my D series as the second monitor to my PC (dual monitor setup) aside with with my Dell 2208WFP...here is my settings for the D series, you can try it...
Wow bro using D Series, cool. Can't wait to see ur setup hehe. Post lah at putera smile.gif

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I really am 'pelik' with what sony have done....they name the feature as Motion Flow plus but in the settings, the option is label as motion enhancer..and nowhere in the manual it stated that motion enhancer is motion flow....

It only state that motion enhancer will provide a amoother pic movement...it took me a while to find that out.

Oh and I haven't connect it with my PC yet as I've yet got a long enough VGA cable...I just need a 2-3 meters cable...

btw, what's a d-sub port used by the D300a? is it dvi input or the normal vga port?

I'm actually thingink to upgradeto a HDMI compliant card..maybe the 9600 GT...but have to check my bank account first laa...

I really think the 3199 is money well spent....Muahahahha
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I really am 'pelik' with what sony have done....they name the feature as Motion Flow plus but in the settings, the option is label as motion enhancer..and nowhere in the manual it stated that motion enhancer is motion flow....

It only state that motion enhancer will provide a amoother pic movement...it took me a while to find that out.

Oh and I haven't connect it with my PC yet as I've yet got a long enough VGA cable...I just need a 2-3 meters cable...

btw, what's a d-sub port used by the D300a? is it dvi input or the normal vga port?

I'm actually thingink to upgradeto  a HDMI compliant card..maybe the 9600 GT...but have to check my bank account first laa...

I really think the 3199 is money well spent....Muahahahha
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Sony release new bravia W400A series.

The price is attractive.


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QUOTE(HeavenNirvana @ Mar 30 2008, 09:52 PM)
Sony release new bravia W400A series.

The price is attractive.
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The KLV-40W400A is a tad small esp when u consider most mid-sized screens are at 42". Having said that, I just came back from Midvalley after spending about 2hrs looking at the W400 series. I have to say the PQ is very good..well, at least for me. Colors look pretty nice and not over poweringl.

On a side note, the KLV-46W400W can be had for RM 9300. Fingers crossed, if my cousin takes my 32" Samsung R8 tomorrow, the KLV-46W400W will be mine very soon. smile.gif
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yup, KLV-40W400A is selling for RM7499 at Best Denki.
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well screen sizes depends on where you want to put your tv...if you're putting a 46" in a 8' x 10' room, it would be an overkill but if you put it in the living room or hall than it's a very nice setup...
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Wah rugi lah, i bought V Series for RM3499, expensive than D Series, suppose D series is expensive than V right?
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They say sony is not selling the D series because it's too good for it's price...
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Very happy with my 32D300A that i got last Thursday. Finally can run my Denon upsampling player to its full potential!!! Blu-Ray playback through my PS3 blew all my friends that came over to check it out. Good stuff! thumbup.gif
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aiseh tot.. kasi bakar nampak.. heheheh... outstation lagi lah... in singapore right now, maybe for 2 weeks.. Damn.. that shop got 0% installment CC ker? show us you setup lah... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(JonC @ Mar 31 2008, 11:22 AM)
Very happy with my 32D300A that i got last Thursday. Finally can run my Denon upsampling player to its full potential!!! Blu-Ray playback through my PS3 blew all my friends that came over to check it out. Good stuff!  thumbup.gif
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Where u get your 32D300A?
Will it still available for next month?
Plan to get it next month.


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QUOTE(tot31 @ Mar 31 2008, 12:25 AM)
well screen sizes depends on where you want to put your tv...if you're putting a 46" in a 8' x 10' room, it would be an overkill but if you put it in the living room or hall than it's a very nice setup...
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I got a 6' x 10' room, what screen sizes is most suitable?
Any recommendation?

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QUOTE(wsho71 @ Mar 31 2008, 11:59 AM)


Added on March 31, 2008, 12:02 pm
I got a 6' x 10' room, what screen sizes is most suitable?
Any recommendation?
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Hmmm....32" would be good enough....I think...but then again it'll depends on your setup...

For me I'm not that far from the screen...only have a small table (to put my pop corn and my controller and my feet between the TV any our sofa...so 32 is enough for me...Not sure about my room size tho...but it's about 8x10 maybe...tho I'm only using like 2/3 of the room with my setup....
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KLV-40W400A worth to buy to use only for xbox,xbox360,playstation 2 and 3 and pc???plannning to buy it and comment on this???

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40W = full hd? now only 7499?
tis model to fight A63 isit? cheap entry level fullHD panels?
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errr...guys...I just bought a HDMI cable recently but when I connect my ps3 to my regza(its an A3500E series) it does not display anything...any idea why?or any setting that I need to configure 1st?

thanks in advance!!

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wen u powering ur PS3, press and hold the power button till u hear a beep
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oh ok...thanks man..i'll try it out tonite...

thanks again..
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Hey rx330,
the Sharp 46" A63 (full HD) is only RM 8400

yes the Sony W400 is fullHD too.

QUOTE(rx330 @ Mar 31 2008, 02:56 PM)
40W = full hd? now only 7499?
tis model to fight A63 isit? cheap entry level fullHD panels?
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QUOTE(wsho71 @ Mar 31 2008, 11:59 AM)
Where u get your 32D300A?
Will it still available for next month?
Plan to get it next month.


Added on March 31, 2008, 12:02 pm
I got a 6' x 10' room, what screen sizes is most suitable?
Any recommendation?
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For your room size, 32" will be enough...here's my gaming and pc setup

user posted image

KLV-32D300A and Dell SP2208WFP. Now I'm saving for Sony HT 5.2 to complete the setup. My gaming and PC room is only 8' x 10'.
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QUOTE(tot31 @ Mar 31 2008, 06:47 PM)
For your room size, 32" will be enough...here's my gaming and pc setup

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KLV-32D300A and Dell SP2208WFP. Now I'm saving for Sony HT 5.2 to complete the setup. My gaming and PC room is only 8' x 10'.
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tot nice setup biggrin.gif anyway what is ur comment on the KLV-40W400A??if i use for xbox 1 and 360,playstation 2 and 3 also my personal computer???can give some expert advice as I'm saving to buy it..


thanks
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QUOTE(squall_12 @ Mar 31 2008, 07:10 PM)
tot nice setup biggrin.gif anyway what is ur comment on the KLV-40W400A??if i use for xbox 1 and 360,playstation 2 and 3 also my personal computer???can give some expert advice as I'm saving to buy it..
thanks
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Thanks.. biggrin.gif. If you really got the budget for KLV-40W400A then go for it as it has FullHD, 10bit Panel, new Bravia 2 engine, 1080p/24p, 30,000:1 dynamic contrast and many more. Buy a SONY for sure you won't be disappointed. To get the most of your LCD, you must do a bit of calibration from the factory setup.
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welwit.... rm 8400also u dare to label it as ONLY ar?
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Sudah laa..rx....

you elite...but say other people elite....

Jokes aside,
I'm so in love with my 32D300a...Last night play non stop from 08:45pm till 2pm....no eyes fatigue...And the PQ...oh my...priceless

p/s: My wife also 'merajuk' since I 'ignore' her for the whole night. By the time I go to bed...she's sound asleep already.
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lapaq, to be frank, i really cant afford 8.4k on a tv, SUMPAH

my fren bought a ps3 (due to my poison) and later on a 40 V300a (also me tongue.gif ) really neglected the wife liao....
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QUOTE(lapaq @ Apr 1 2008, 02:10 PM)
Sudah laa..rx....

you elite...but say other people elite....

Jokes aside,
I'm so in love with my 32D300a...Last night play non stop from 08:45pm till 2pm....no eyes fatigue...And the PQ...oh my...priceless

p/s: My wife also 'merajuk' since I 'ignore' her for the whole night. By the time I go to bed...she's sound asleep already.
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I got my iRobot Blu-ray today..to bad I don't have a 400A to play it on now.. Arghh..

I've never really seen a Sony D series..most shopping centers don't carry it right?
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Hi noob here, what is the different of display quality if plug the ps3 to a real HDTV and Dell 27" 2707WFP UltraSharp LCD?
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hi,

i've just got a 42pfl9532. no regrets so far, i've tried watching dvds and it looks very nice. but i got the complementary ambisound player which bumps up dvd to 108op. watched some of the series i dloaded, also looks good, no complaints.

have not tried on my ps2 yet, and dun have ps3 or HD/BD movies to compare against. and also no astro yet, so cannot test. biggrin.gif

if u ask me, dun go fo rthe 74XX series. if u watch movies, u can see the jerk and its not that sharp compared to the newer model. my 2 cents. g'luck

QUOTE(jchue73 @ Mar 29 2008, 12:34 PM)
Hi guys, I'm looking at 1080p LCD / Plasma panels. Is the Philips any good? I saw in the papers that they are having promo.

42PFL9532/98 - RM 12,999 (out of my league I think)
47PFL7422/98 - RM 7999
42PFL7432/98 - RM 6499

What's the difference between the 1st and 3rd Philips 42" model?

Any comments on other similar Toshiba / Sharp and Sony models? I've seen Sony high end models (1080p capable) being very expensive.
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QUOTE(JiauBoy @ Apr 1 2008, 04:28 PM)
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Just to update you....it looks like everything is fine...nothing bad happened....yet


QUOTE(welwitchia @ Apr 1 2008, 06:57 PM)
I got my iRobot Blu-ray today..to bad I don't have a 400A to play it on now.. Arghh..

I've never really seen a Sony D series..most shopping centers don't carry it right?
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Yeah...when I was searching for it...only big outlets have it on display. When I asked Harvey Norman in Damansara...they said they don't carry it.

QUOTE(re330 @ Apr 1 2008, 11:55 AM)
lapaq, to be frank, i really cant afford 8.4k on a tv, SUMPAH

my fren bought a ps3 (due to my poison) and later on a 40 V300a (also me  ) really neglected the wife liao....
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Well guys, tonight is my second session....wish me luck...
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if lcd tv when play subtitle the word sumtime blur and blinking wat prob ah?

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wah.... wats ur source?how cum subtitle blured one?
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Hi guys..planning to buy lcd tv. Which one is good for ps3 gaming?
Toshiba Regza LCD TV 37A3500E (rm 3249) VS Sharp LCD TV LC32A53M(100 hertz) (rm2.999)..

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Thanks..but is it true that metabrain pro on Toshiba rezga has similar features with Sharp's 100hertz double frame that eliminates ghosting?
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Guys, what do u thing about this sony KLV-46X200A?
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The Panasonic PV80 is out and they have a road show @ Sunway Pyramid. 42" PV80 retails at RM4949. Very nice PQ.. better design than the 'older' PV70.
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QUOTE(bvlagar @ Apr 2 2008, 09:56 PM)
Guys, what do u thing about this sony KLV-46X200A?
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Thats exactly my tv model thumbup.gif and using it for almost a year now...very satisfied with it rclxms.gif


But now already got 46X300A, and the X200 already phased out by Sony... biggrin.gif
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PV80 full HD ah?
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Full HD at RM4949?? It'll sell like hot cakes. Too bad its only HD ready.

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PV80 full HD ah?
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PV80 dynamic contrast 1,000,000:1, 3 hdmi, good for HD movies, wanna sell my PV70 tongue.gif
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Thats exactly my tv model thumbup.gif and using it for almost a year now...very satisfied with it rclxms.gif
But now already got 46X300A, and the X200 already phased out by Sony... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(g-string @ Apr 2 2008, 11:05 AM)
hi,

i've just got a 42pfl9532. no regrets so far, i've tried watching dvds and it looks very nice. but i got the complementary ambisound player which bumps up dvd to 108op. watched some of the series i dloaded, also looks good, no complaints.

have not tried on my ps2 yet, and dun have ps3 or HD/BD movies to compare against. and also no astro yet, so cannot test. biggrin.gif

if u ask me, dun go fo rthe 74XX series. if u watch movies, u can see the jerk and its not that sharp compared to the newer model. my 2 cents. g'luck
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Thanks for the feedback. I tried to view it in the shop but I too found that fast scenes are a little jerky. Thought it was something to do witht he source but since you mentioned it, it may be the panel... Would a 100Hz panel solve this?

Ummm, 100Hz + 1080p is bloody expensive. The more I read, the more I kena racun !

Anyway, the Sony KLV-40W400A specs look interesting. Price is not bad too...
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if u're talking about the lower model, yes it was quite jerky when they were demo'ing saving private ryan. coz i was looking at the 52 inch one, but the jerkiness was unbearable. my wife also agreed. but when tried the higher model, it definetely has a difference. and the 100hz is very nice wub.gif

pair it with a player that can upscale to 1080p, and u wont regret it. the ambilight takes a little getting used to. but either way no regrets man. brows.gif go for it..... nod.gif if u're going for xbox/ps3, dvd/hd/bd, then dun think, just buy!!! brows.gif

QUOTE(jchue73 @ Apr 4 2008, 12:24 AM)
Thanks for the feedback. I tried to view it in the shop but I too found that fast scenes are a little jerky. Thought it was something to do witht he source but since you mentioned it, it may be the panel... Would a 100Hz panel solve this?

Ummm, 100Hz + 1080p is bloody expensive. The more I read, the more I kena racun !

Anyway, the Sony KLV-40W400A specs look interesting. Price is not bad too...
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tot dah dpt tv baru senyap jer ek... hehehehehe... aku nak g umah tot lah, nak kasi gegar umah dia.. hahahahahah... biggrin.gif (bilalah nak blk Malaysia.. sad.gif)

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QUOTE(daTUK_SErI @ Apr 4 2008, 11:19 AM)
tot dah dpt tv baru senyap jer ek... hehehehehe... aku nak g umah tot lah, nak kasi gegar umah dia.. hahahahahah... biggrin.gif (bilalah nak blk Malaysia.. sad.gif)
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hahahha...boleh..datang lah dan ko tgk sendiri D series tu...mmg best...sekarang aku buat as dual display tuk PC aku....puas aku calibrate...tgk mkv movies mmg cun giler....
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QUOTE(tot31 @ Apr 4 2008, 11:50 AM)
hahahha...boleh..datang lah dan ko tgk sendiri D series tu...mmg best...sekarang aku buat as dual display tuk PC aku....puas aku calibrate...tgk mkv movies mmg cun giler....
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Tot bagi calibration ko yang latest...

pastu...PC tv ni pakai DVI ke normal VGA port tuh? aku tak paham DSub tuh apa?
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Hi, I just came back from Sunway Pyramid HN... I saw the samsung 46" LCD LA46F81BX price at RM 10,999..

Isn't it this model last time is around RM 17,999 one???? oledi gone down 7k man...

I din ask the sales person, i just pass by only... i think i din't see it wrongly..
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QUOTE(fatfat @ Apr 4 2008, 11:53 PM)
Hi, I just came back from Sunway Pyramid HN... I saw the samsung 46" LCD LA46F81BX price at RM 10,999..

Isn't it this model last time is around RM 17,999 one???? oledi gone down 7k man...

I din ask the sales person, i just pass by only... i think i din't see it wrongly..
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If they lower down the price more, the temptation will be too great to resist.... smile.gif

Gonna be a big hole in my wallet... cry.gif
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lapaq, d-sub pakai vga will do
if ur pc ada dvi, pakai dvi to hdmi lor
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lapaq, d-sub pakai vga will do
if ur pc ada dvi, pakai dvi to hdmi lor
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Okeh..tomolo I go buy ga cable..then can watch all my hd anime collection in mkv with subs...woooohoooo
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Hey guys, I've shopping around for a 32" HDTV for gaming purposes, budget is 2-4k.

So need to know a few things, hopefully someone here can help out: -

- Read about the new Bravia W-series on the front page. Is the 32" W-series launching here?
- There are replacements coming for the Bravia S- and V- series (400). Anyone know what's the difference between them and the current 300 models?
- Bravia aside, what does everyone think of the Panasonic 32LX700MK?

Thanks in advance smile.gif

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ur current setup no vga cable meh bro?
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Hey guys, I've shopping around for a 32" HDTV for gaming purposes, budget is 2-4k.

So need to know a few things, hopefully someone here can help out: -

- Read about the new Bravia W-series on the front page. Is the 32" W-series launching here?
- There are replacements coming for the Bravia S- and V- series (400). Anyone know what's the difference between them and the current 300 models?
- Bravia aside, what does everyone think of the Panasonic 32LX700MK?

Thanks in advance smile.gif
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To follow up on this, I got a quote for Panasonic 32LX700MK for RM2999. That a good deal?
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Apr 7 2008, 09:59 AM)
ur current setup no vga cable meh bro?
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old pc can watch mkv? emmm....
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QUOTE(tot31 @ Apr 8 2008, 09:38 AM)
old pc can watch mkv? emmm....
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All new except vga card and my monitor....too lazy to upgrade my vga card...thinking better spend the money to buy games

but my CPU is a dual core intel laa...I'm into encoding stuff (anime and etc) hence the need for a good cpu...
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QUOTE(LordSparda @ Apr 7 2008, 10:10 PM)
To follow up on this, I got a quote for Panasonic 32LX700MK for RM2999. That a good deal?
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Quite a good price.
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Nice price...but IINM...this model of the tv....one cannot switch off the 100hz functionality...so pls make sure first...but if you don't mind then it's okay...
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QUOTE(lapaq @ Apr 9 2008, 01:28 PM)
Nice price...but IINM...this model of the tv....one cannot switch off the 100hz functionality...so pls make sure first...but if you don't mind then it's okay...
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Well, I'm still going to shop around for Bravia 32D300 since almost everyone says it's superior, but it's really hard too find sad.gif

Or maybe I'll wait a few weeks for the Bravia 32V400 to launch... argh... so many decisions rclxub.gif

Man, wasn't expecting to take THIS long just to buy a TV blink.gif
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QUOTE(LordSparda @ Apr 9 2008, 08:17 PM)
Well, I'm still going to shop around for Bravia 32D300 since almost everyone says it's superior, but it's really hard too find  sad.gif

Or maybe I'll wait a few weeks for the Bravia 32V400 to launch... argh... so many decisions  rclxub.gif

Man, wasn't expecting to take THIS long just to buy a TV  blink.gif
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When I was searching for my 32D300a, Legend informed me that new sony model will be arriving either in late April or early May...maybe you can wait till that time...

As for me I'm happy with my 32D300a. thumbup.gif

I'm not sure about the specs though...
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QUOTE(lapaq @ Apr 10 2008, 11:24 AM)
When I was searching for my 32D300a, Legend informed me that new sony model will be arriving either in late April or early May...maybe you can wait till that time...

As for me I'm happy with my 32D300a.  thumbup.gif

I'm not sure about the specs though...
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I think what they means is new W series model.
Not so much different from D series.
Support FHD, DMPort and much more better outlook i think and picture quality is slightly better.
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on is HD , ons is fullhd, tat difference still not big enuff ar? tongue.gif
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Hey RX, ask u a question. Lets say I give u 2 choice

1) 42" Panasonic PV80
2) 40" Sony KLV-40W400A

Yes I know the Sony is more expensive but please ignore the price in this case.

Which will u choose? It will be used to play BDs, DVDs and of course, regular PS3 gaming.

I have a hard time deciding between the 2.
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QUOTE(tot31 @ Mar 31 2008, 06:47 PM)
For your room size, 32" will be enough...here's my gaming and pc setup

*gambau*

KLV-32D300A and Dell SP2208WFP. Now I'm saving for Sony HT 5.2 to complete the setup. My gaming and PC room is only 8' x 10'.
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bro welwit... u shud have know my answer....

im a plasma fanboy, i definitely go for the pv80
for me, it hink the only thing u can say abt the W is, im using a fullHD lcd, tats it
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but ur daily prefernce wen watching tv also important, if u serious gamer like lapaq, i advice u go for lcd, even though manufacturers claim no burn in issues, but image retention is still a possiblity
but if you are more of a movie kaki, then plasma shud be ok for us
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Apr 11 2008, 12:00 PM)
bro welwit... u shud have know my answer....

im a plasma fanboy, i definitely go for the pv80
for me, it hink the only thing u can say abt the W is, im using a fullHD lcd, tats it
*taking cover from sony lcd fanbobys tongue.gif

but ur daily prefernce wen watching tv also important, if u serious gamer like lapaq, i advice u go for lcd, even though manufacturers claim no burn in issues, but image retention is still a possiblity
but if you are more of a movie kaki, then plasma shud be ok for us
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lcd is lighter and less power consumption.... thumbup.gif
Sorry im a lcd fanboy icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Apr 11 2008, 12:47 PM)
yes, i can see u r a fanboy, even with ur wrong facts biggrin.gif
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im with u rx thumbup.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Apr 11 2008, 01:47 PM)
yes, i can see u r a fanboy, even with ur wrong facts biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(PrinceOfPersia @ Apr 11 2008, 03:10 PM)
im with u rx  thumbup.gif  tongue.gif
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No one to support me?? cry.gif
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QUOTE(chicano @ Apr 11 2008, 02:48 PM)
Hmm....i wonder which fatcs are wrong?  hmm.gif
No one to support me??  cry.gif
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no need to worry la bro, many LCD users here biggrin.gif
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The 40W400A is retailing for ~RM7000. To get or not to get? blush.gif

What do u guys think..will the Panny PZ80 make to here in Malaysia?
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support lapaq tongue.gif

welwit, u urself shud know better, dun buy tv becos of resolution
go see with ur eye, whether u prefer the presentation of lcd or plasma
40 inch really doesnt matter its 720or 1080 unless ur like siting just 102 feet away from the tv
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Yes I know, I plan to use my TV as my PC monitor too and 1080p makes a huge difference when u use to do occassional surfing. Anyway, I think I'll make my purchase real soon.. I'm basically free from CC debt now. Time to be in debt again. tongue.gif
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support lapaq tongue.gif

welwit, u urself shud know better, dun buy tv becos of resolution
go see with ur eye, whether u prefer the presentation of lcd or plasma
40 inch really doesnt matter its 720or 1080 unless ur like siting just 102 feet away from the tv
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alamak u using for pc as well ar?
DO NOT GET THE PV80!!!

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Yeah, it gets tedious when u keep having to transfer files to the thumbdrive to watch it on the PS3.
Anyway, the PV80 is bad with the PC?
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nit tested and proven, better not
as the pv has only 1024 X 768 reso, so its a 4:3 image for pc
hence it will stretch the picture
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I took the plunge and bought the Sony 40" W400. So far, I'm very happy with it. smile.gif

Gonna connect my notebook to it later with HDMI try to surf the net with it.
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help me out im planning on buying an lcd for daily gaming with a budget of RM 4000+ prefer 37/40 inch
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Hi sifus,

I wish enquire the price of Panasonic TX-37LZ800MK??
Please guide. Thanks in advance.
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welwit, i saw hte w400 yesterday, wow nice design... something new
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^ Design not bad la.. Actually the Sharps are more suited to my taste. Anyway, very happy with the W400. Celine Dion has never looked so good.. tongue.gif
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wen has she looked good b4? biggrin.gif
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^ Lol..Rx, u're bad!!
Oh BTW, before I got my Sony, I always thought all Blu-rays are 1080p...which is not the case. Some of the the Blu-ray I have is only 1080i (I guess its 720p), Celine Dion - A New Day is one of them. tongue.gif
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a few nia, chriss botti also 1080i
i think most movies are 1080p
only concerts and documnetray tat are taken by digital HD videocam, has 1080i
but i htink the 1080i is sufficient, no?
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Like u said, at 40" its pretty difficult to tell between 1080i and 1080p. If I told u otherwise, I would be lying right? tongue.gif

I did however tried the PSN game FLOW on 1080p and I dunno if its just my imagination but it does look pretty sharp even when compared to what I used to play on 1080i on my 32" R8 Samsung.

Next stop..(if I starve enough and eat more grass) would be to upgrade my amp.. which brings me to this question.

Lets say I just have a 5.1 speaker setup, do u think I will be able to "hear" a difference between Dolby D 5.1 and Dolby TrueHD?
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QUOTE(welwitchia @ Apr 14 2008, 11:16 AM)
Like u said, at 40" its pretty difficult to tell between 1080i and 1080p. If I told u otherwise, I would be lying right?  tongue.gif

I did however tried the PSN game FLOW on 1080p and I dunno if its just my imagination but it does look pretty sharp even when compared to what I used to play on 1080i on my 32" R8 Samsung.

Next stop..(if I starve enough and eat more grass) would be to upgrade my amp.. which brings me to this question.

Lets say I just have a 5.1 speaker setup, do u think I will be able to "hear" a difference between Dolby D 5.1 and Dolby TrueHD?
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Why don't you try to load The Digi Yellow Duck game (forgot the name). It supposed to be pure 1080p and not upscaled like most game (eg GT5p During Gameplay 960*1080 and not really 1920*1080.

Try it out and see if you can notice the diff...

and and ry to sit at least 2-4 feet from the tv to see the diff tongue.gif
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2-4 feet can see difference

even with ur curent speaker, shud bea ble to hear the difference, but for me not much btwn DD and trueHD, but PCM yes, tomolo will be able to tell DTS and HD MA got much difference or not
if u are a movie buff in bluray movie, the amp is worth it
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I sit around 4-5 feet from my TV..hmm..so its a good thing i got a Full HD set.

As for the amp, what would u recommend? The Yammy 663? Not released here yet right?
Also, from my limited knowledge, I understand PCM is basically uncompressed audio..like most of my concert DVDs have PCM but only in stereo. Are u saying those Blu-rays have multi-channel PCM? If so, what is it called and what is required to decode those?

Thanks ah..

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PS3 can easily decode anything PCM....and coming with Firmware 2.30...the PS3 can practically decode anything on Bluray into PCM..and then the PCM signal will be passed to your AVR....and the AVR can pass the PCM signal (IINM almost all HDMI equipped can decode PCM to all it's speakers) straight to the speaker be it 5.1 of 7.1.

Prior to Firmware 2.2 PS3 can decode everything to PCM except DTS-MA.

RX Correct me if I'm wrong...

Of and yes there are some BD that comes with PCM 5.1 but I haven't seen 7.1 tho only compressed.

Although compressed it can be lossless...so don't confuse yourself... tongue.gif
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lapaq, u making bro wel penin lar

anyway, bro wel, just get the 663, shud be here by early may i suppose, earliest

if u on a tight budget, get a hdmi amp tat can do Multi PCM thru hdmi will do, such as the yammy 661

basically, the ps3 will decode avthing and send out as PCM (startign from tomolo)
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Thanks RX & Lapaq. One last question if u don't mind
What exactly is Bitstream..in the PS3. biggrin.gif
Can explain ah? I just went to see the optometrist.. They say i need new glasses and they freaked out when I told them I watch a 40" TV at a distance of less than 5 feet. tongue.gif

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I heard W400 series 32" also is FullHD 1920 x 1080.
And its made in Malaysia?

http://www.av-forums.net/plus/redirect.php...goto=nextoldset
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The 32" W400 is not available in Malaysia.
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I heard W400 series 32" also is FullHD 1920 x 1080.
And its made in Malaysia?

http://www.av-forums.net/plus/redirect.php...goto=nextoldset
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Yes. most of Sony TV in Malaysia nowadays is actually made in Malaysia rclxms.gif
Only X series is made in Japan.
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hi welwitchia how the Sony 40" W400 when using on pc is it clear as LCD monitor??? as i plan to buy it soon so need some feedback also will be using for my ps3 and xbox360??

thanks
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^ I tried connecting my notebook to it using HDMI and enable 1:1 pixel mapping on the W400. Here's what I noticed. If u sit about 6 feet away, its 'pretty' good BUT its not as good as LCD monitors (e.g the 24" Dell that I use for my PC).
Having said that, I've not tried a "TEXT" mode and I did not try connecting using the D-SUB (VGA) connector. Sometimes I wonder if its practical to use a 40" as a PC monitor. smile.gif

I forgot to add : Don't pay anything more than RM7000 for the 40" W400.

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welwit, the ps3 now can only bitstream DD and DTS and 2 channel ocm thru hdmi as well as optical
bitstream the audio signal to be decoded by ur receiver, hence lighting up the wordings DD or DTS and pcm

players like panny BD30 and sammy 1400, is able to bitstream HBR to the receiver for it to decode truehd and dtshdma

so for ps3 to enjoy next gen audio, it will need to decode itself in the ps3 and send out the signal as PCM thru HDMI to get surround

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^ Har? Decoding Dolby HD or DTS-HD should be the primary function of these next-gen receivers right? Why would the PS3 still need to do the decoding?? blink.gif

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The PS3's default is to convert recognized audio streams to Linear PCM, an uncompressed audio format, for output via HDMI or digital optical audio. This can be advantageous if, for example, you're outputting to an HDTV that has built-in speakers and decodes only Linear PCM. If you're using your own home theater receiver, though, you'll want to use the Bitstream setting: In this mode, the PS3 passes the audio "bitstream"--be it Dolby Digital, Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby TrueHD, DTS, or DTS-HD--through to your receiver via the HDMI or optical connector; from there, the receiver decodes the audio and outputs it to your speakers.

If you go with the default and use HDMI for a source with 7.1-channel audio, you'll need to output to a device that can read Linear PCM at 7.1 channels to get the full benefit. If your disc has DTS-HD 7.1-channel audio, that audio will be output at 5.1 channels instead. If you choose the Linear PCM default but use the digital optical connection, you can have only 2- and 5.1-channel sound. The multi-A/V-out (either component or composite video) supports 2-channel audio only.


http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,127892/article.html

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In this mode, the PS3 passes the audio "bitstream"--be it Dolby Digital, Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby TrueHD, DTS, or DTS-HD--through to your receiver via the HDMI or optical connector; from there, the receiver decodes the audio and outputs it to your speakers.


the fella who post this shud be shot and hung,
heck, linear pcm 5.1 thru optical??
knn... welwit, i guess u ask the shifu here better, this is bull crap

PS3 will not send next gen audio for receiver to decode it

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QUOTE(Gahleon @ Apr 14 2008, 05:16 PM)
I heard W400 series 32" also is FullHD 1920 x 1080.
And its made in Malaysia?

http://www.av-forums.net/plus/redirect.php...goto=nextoldset
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Just realised this. I read somewhere that the 32" is only 8 bit panel unlike the other W models.
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Just realised this. I read somewhere that the 32" is only 8 bit panel unlike the other W models.
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^ I tried connecting my notebook to it using HDMI and enable 1:1 pixel mapping on the W400. Here's what I noticed. If u sit about 6 feet away, its 'pretty' good BUT its not as good as LCD monitors (e.g the 24"  Dell that I use for my PC).
Having said that, I've not tried a "TEXT" mode and I did not try connecting using the D-SUB (VGA) connector. Sometimes I wonder if its practical to use a 40" as a PC monitor.  smile.gif

I forgot to add : Don't pay anything more than RM7000 for the 40" W400.
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welwitchia, can you test to see if your 40" outputs 1080p using component? biggrin.gif Just curious since I plan to play HD content through my notebook which has VGA out but does not have HDMI or DVI. I understand with the proper cables, VGA can breakout to component. Thanks.


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That's why you need to get the D series...it uses 10-bit panel...even for 32"
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Thanks for the info. I guess if you were going for 32", 1080p does not matter. D series is a better buy then.

I'm currently itching for the 46W400A (or the Sharp 46" A63). Kena racun because I saw it side by side against the 40". doh.gif

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I can try out the VGA connection.. as for component, I don't have any component devices.. used to have the Xbox 360 but it liked me so much that it decides to give me 3 red lights every time I turn it on (yea, even though all my games are 100% original) so I told MS to F off.

I was contemplating on the 46" Sharp too but i think what made me buy the Sony is the 10bit panel and 1080p/24.

LOL, i just added a picture i took with the crappy iPhone camera. Was watching The Kingdom DVD last night. Not a bad movie.

QUOTE(jchue73 @ Apr 15 2008, 11:16 AM)
welwitchia, can you test to see if your 40" outputs 1080p using component?  biggrin.gif Just curious since I plan to play HD content through my notebook which has VGA out but does not have HDMI or DVI. I understand with the proper cables, VGA can breakout to component. Thanks.


Added on April 15, 2008, 11:25 am

Thanks for the info. I guess if you were going for 32", 1080p does not matter. D series is a better buy then.

I'm currently itching for the 46W400A (or the Sharp 46" A63). Kena racun because I saw it side by side against the 40".  doh.gif
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QUOTE(welwitchia @ Apr 15 2008, 11:51 AM)
I can try out the VGA connection.. as for component, I don't have any component devices.. used to have the Xbox 360 but it liked me so much that it decides to give me 3 red lights every time I turn it on (yea, even though all my games are 100% original) so I told MS to F off.


biggrin.gif VGA would do fine. Thanks. Does the W series have direct VGA connection? If yes, better for me. I was under the impression it did not have and hence have to use VGA ---> component.

QUOTE(welwitchia @ Apr 15 2008, 11:51 AM)
I was contemplating on the 46" Sharp too but i think what made me buy the Sony is the 10bit panel and 1080p/24.


I'm also leaning towards the Sony. The Sharp was showing the same Bluray promo disc and somewhat briefly got to compare it against the Sony. The colours were not as vibrant (maybe a little setting here and there) and fast scenes were not as smooth as the Sony.

The A63 does not have 10bit panel? Also no 1024p/24? Price wise, both the A63 and W400A series seem to be about the same... hmm.gif
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Rx kena one shot thru the head...

p/s: rx I think is like me...can sms and call is enuff already...no need all the mambo jumbo..

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lapaq , me not like u blush.gif
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i think keep the money buy HD display better biggrin.gif
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No wonder u're always at the Blu-ray thread. I have to avoid that thread for the time being. All the talk about DTS-HD MA is bad for the mental health.
BTW, what receiver are u using RX? biggrin.gif
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screen, most prollu im doing a fixed screen, ask frame ppl to do, shud be less than rm 500 including the projector screen
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To those owners of Sony W series 40W400A. Please I need to verify something. There is this hype about 100Hz Panel. I read up of the post in this thread about Philips not having 100Hz and it's jerking when there is a fast action scene. Does this happen to 40W400A? Has anyone tested it yet, especially with fast moving anime. Please tell me your opinion, as I'm leaning towards Sony as well.

I can see that Sony W series is better than Sharp A63M in PQ wise. I got quote of Rm7000, and they are giving me 1 HDMI cable and 1 BRAVIA bag.
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I dunno about 100Hz panels but I thought what's important is the panel's ability to support 24p and the W400 does support it.

U might wanna read the review on a 100Hz display (a kick a$$ one too)
http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/Samsung-LE40F86BD/

Here's a quote from the review
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I've droned on and on, so let's get the crux of the matter out of the way: there is probably no condition under which I would voluntarily engage [100Hz Motion Plus] on the LE40F86BD to enhance my viewing pleasure. For film material, I find that it wreaks havoc on the very fabric that gives 24p movies their surreal dreamlike temporal quality. Call me nostalgic, but I prefer my movies to look filmic/ cinematic, not as if they were shot using a cheap £150 handheld camcorder, which is what [100Hz Motion Plus] does as it mutates 24p to hyper-real 50/ 60 fps "news mode".


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W series doesn't have 100Hz, the D and X series have and Sony 100Hz is not a hype...I own the D series and I can see the difference...D series also have 1080/24p true cinema...

Here's a review on Sony 32" D series http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/Sony-KDL32D3000/
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Panasonic Viera TX-37LX75MK for RM3350.(display set for 2 month) normal price RM 3649 (ewarehouse) .Got offer from a friend who works in electronic store.dont know is a old model or new.Is it a good price/buy guys?
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Panasonic Viera TX-37LX75MK for RM3350.(display set for 2 month) normal price RM 3649 (ewarehouse) .Got offer from a friend who works in electronic store.dont know is a old model or new.Is it a good price/buy guys?
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Hi bro,
I believe this gonna be an old model.
I saw TX-37LZ800MK in pc fair which gonna be lauched in M'sia soon.
It's full HD and with 24p. I couldnt' find the info of it on the web.
Do you have 'jalan' to get to this 'baby'?
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How much expected to this TX-37LZ800MK model?. now im unsure to buy..
got this offer from my friend..he just offer for me only..sorry

BTW didnt find this model on web? typo error? blink.gif

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QUOTE(welwitchia @ Apr 17 2008, 11:10 PM)
I dunno about 100Hz panels but I thought what's important is the panel's ability to support 24p and the W400 does support it.

U might wanna read the review on a 100Hz display (a kick a$$ one too)
http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/Samsung-LE40F86BD/

Here's a quote from the review
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Does this mean that the 100Hz make the movie worse for 24p?
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QUOTE(runemastertan @ Apr 18 2008, 05:16 PM)
Does this mean that the 100Hz make the movie worse for 24p?
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nope for Sony 100Hz... thumbup.gif
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is Sony W series 40W400A availabe in penang????plan to get it soon to replace my Dell LCD 3007WFP....

thanks
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How much expected to this TX-37LZ800MK model?. now im unsure to buy..
got this offer from my friend..he just offer for me only..sorry

BTW didnt find this model on web? typo error? blink.gif
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Bro,
It's not typo error. I couldn't find the info on web as well.
But it's in PC fair. It was stated as an upcoming model.
Specs wise, it's pretty decent.
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I really don't know enough to answer that.. Sorry, u'll have to do a bit of googling for that. biggrin.gif
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Does this mean that the 100Hz make the movie worse for 24p?
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It;s there in Sony Malaysia's website. There aren;t any review for this model yet on the internet from CNET Asia or review sites, so that is why you got a hard time looking for it in the website.


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nope for Sony 100Hz... thumbup.gif
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But your answer does not apply to Sony 40W400A, right? SInce the panel is not 100Hz....

And it seems that Sony is introducing new models for LCD TV, and for W series, the W4100, there is 4 HDMI and MotionPlus feature with 100Hz. I saw it in AVSForums.

If anyone wants the link I'll attach it

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QUOTE(runemastertan @ Apr 19 2008, 03:02 AM)
It;s there in Sony Malaysia's website. There aren;t any review for this model yet on the internet from CNET Asia or review sites, so that is why you got a hard time looking for it in the website.


Added on April 19, 2008, 3:05 am
But your answer does not apply to Sony 40W400A, right? SInce the panel is not 100Hz....

And it seems that Sony is introducing new models for LCD TV, and for W series, the W4100, there is 4 HDMI and MotionPlus feature with 100Hz. I saw it in AVSForums.

If anyone wants the link I'll attach it
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W4100 is a US model and US models always have better features than Asia models. W400A for Asia W4000 for UK/Europe. W400A doesn't have 100Hz. I've gave you the link to Sony 32D3000 review which is the same with 32D300A where the D series has 100Hz feature. Sony has implemented very well the 100Hz technology compared to other manufacturers.
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QUOTE(runemastertan @ Apr 17 2008, 10:13 PM)
To those owners of Sony W series 40W400A. Please I need to verify something. There is this hype about 100Hz Panel. I read up of the post in this thread about Philips not having 100Hz and it's jerking when there is a fast action scene. Does this happen to 40W400A? Has anyone tested it yet, especially with fast moving anime. Please tell me your opinion, as I'm leaning towards Sony as well.

I can see that Sony W series is better than Sharp A63M in PQ wise. I got quote of Rm7000, and they are giving me 1 HDMI cable and 1 BRAVIA bag.
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I would choose LC42A63M over 40W400A.
Spec wise LC42A63M is better and more value for $$$.
LC42A63M is RM6,499.


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^ The contrast ratio (dynamic) is not as high as the Sony.. so saying it has better spec is not true.
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QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Apr 19 2008, 11:57 AM)
I would choose LC42A63M over 40W400A.
Spec wise LC42A63M is better and more value for $$$.
LC42A63M is RM6,499.
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I would agree that sharp have "value for money" element than Sony. But then i think for most people, PQ are more important. And i do notice that Sharp 42A63M is rather hot, compare to 42W400A
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^ Hot as in "heat" ? or hot as in more "popular" ?

Edit : oh wait, or do u mean hot as in "reddish" tongue.gif

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QUOTE(welwitchia @ Apr 20 2008, 10:30 PM)
^ Hot as in "heat" ? or hot as in more "popular" ?

Edit : oh wait, or do u mean hot as in "reddish"  tongue.gif
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Hot as in heat. Actually I hoped that it would mean "hot chick" tongue.gif
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QUOTE(runemastertan @ Apr 18 2008, 05:16 PM)
Does this mean that the 100Hz make the movie worse for 24p?
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Here is my honest answer..I own a 32D series from sony.

Personall I liked the 100hz feature very much...

Movie wise...It makes the motions in the movie you play on the screen 'extra smooth.'....it basically doubles the frames per second...you will somehow look at it a bit smoother hence it'll look somewhat 'artificial'..Whether artificial is bad or not depends entirely on one's 'taste' or prefernce...I liked watching Pirates BD with Motion plus turned on (normal setting).

But there's certain movie I prefer watching it with the option off...

When it come to games....

Again Some games I prefer it to be switched on and some off. Example of a game that I liked it to be switched on is Motorstorm...The game is running at 30fps...add Motion Plus...it becomes 60fps...hence smoother...

Some games is not suited to be 'motion plus'ed...because motion plus will sometimes introduces 'noise' in the video...hence I'll switch it off...

Most of the time I'll leave it on at Normal setting.

Ypu have to see it your selves to decide....It's totally falls back to one's preference....
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QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Apr 18 2008, 11:50 AM)
Hi bro,
I believe this gonna be an old model.
I saw TX-37LZ800MK in pc fair which gonna be lauched in M'sia soon.
It's full HD and with 24p. I couldnt' find the info of it on the web.
Do you have 'jalan' to get to this 'baby'?
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QUOTE(riph @ Apr 18 2008, 12:00 PM)
How much expected to this TX-37LZ800MK model?. now im unsure to buy..
got this offer from my friend..he just offer for me only..sorry

BTW didnt find this model on web? typo error? blink.gif
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Finally I manage to find info on TX-37LZ800MK biggrin.gif
It available @ http://www.panasonic.com.my/viera/
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Attached the specs in pdf format:
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QUOTE(lapaq @ Apr 21 2008, 02:23 PM)
Here is my honest answer..I own a 32D series from sony.

Personall I liked the 100hz feature very much...

Movie wise...It makes the motions in the movie you play on the screen 'extra smooth.'....it basically doubles the frames per second...you will somehow look at it a bit smoother hence it'll look somewhat 'artificial'..Whether artificial is bad or not depends entirely on one's 'taste' or prefernce...I liked watching Pirates BD with Motion plus turned on (normal setting).

But there's certain movie I prefer watching it with the option off...

When it come to games....

Again Some games I prefer it to be switched on and some off. Example of a game that I liked it to be switched on is Motorstorm...The game is running at 30fps...add Motion Plus...it becomes 60fps...hence smoother...

Some games is not suited to be 'motion plus'ed...because motion plus will sometimes introduces 'noise' in the video...hence I'll switch it off...

Most of the time I'll leave it on at Normal setting.

Ypu have to see it your selves to decide....It's totally falls back to one's preference....
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Hmm, if this is the case.....welwitchia, and all owners of 40W400A, do you feel that when you watched fast paced movies such like anime, fast action movie, the movie seems not smooth ar?
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Hmm, if this is the case.....welwitchia, and all owners of 40W400A, do you feel that when you watched fast paced movies such like anime, fast action movie, the movie seems not smooth ar?
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Hi,

Don't misunderstand me...I said the video is 'smoother'...not that if no motion plus it's not smooth at all.

If the original video is intended to be watch at 50/60 hz...the it is smooth enough...but imagine it is shown at 100/120 hz....

Somewhat the same like videogames, 30 fps is smooth enough but if it is shown at 60 fps..then that is smoother.

It really doesn't mean that LCD without moption plus is not smooth at all...

p/s: Oh and some video does benefit a lot from motion plus to reduce blurring that LCD tends to produce...refer to various Panasonic 700mk display set where they set half screen with 100hz and the other half without 100hz..the scrolling text is nit so blurred...and to think that game have a lot of text/pic running accross screen it would benefit a lot from it.

But bear in mind that game are built to be shown on HDTV screen so when they develope the game thsy will try to reduce the blurryness themselves so the improvement can be minimal...for games that is built that way at least
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It looks fine to me. Then again, when I watch blu-rays on the 400A, I'm only looking at the colors. biggrin.gif

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Hmm, if this is the case.....welwitchia, and all owners of 40W400A, do you feel that when you watched fast paced movies such like anime, fast action movie, the movie seems not smooth ar?
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Guys,

Some sharing of price and also your feedback on the below LCD. Heard that the Aquos PQ is not that good compare to Sony???

Price I got below is b4 negotiation/hagging

1. Sony 40W400A - RM6999

2. Sharp Aquos 42A63 - RM7499

3. Sharp Aquos 46A63 - RM 9499
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get the sony btwn 1 & 2, 3 kenot compare cos out of size and price
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toratora, go compare the LCD yourself. And I;m not sure you can get price lower than that for Sony. Sharp 42A63M is around 6499
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Yup...the sony is gud enough.....you won't miss the motion plus unless you watched a lot of TV rather than blu-ray and games.
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QUOTE(runemastertan @ Apr 25 2008, 03:17 PM)
toratora, go compare the LCD yourself. And I;m not sure you can get price lower than that for Sony. Sharp 42A63M is around 6499
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can share where you get the price of 6499???

I know sony is sufficent but i greedy for a bigger size sad.gif

if 42A63M is 6499 then cheaper than sony already
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Since u guys are considering the W400.. I guess u should know this too..

On my W400, under "dim" conditions and a viewing a black JPEG, i noticed a very slight uneven greyish area on the top right.. Not a biggie but just u should know, its not perfect. Its also impossible to check while u're in the shop unless u ask them to turn the TV on in a pitch black room. I just check for dead pixels when I bought mine. I'm pretty sure the Sharps or any other LCD TVs will have the same issue.. Wonder if the plasmas have the same problems.

I think we should be watching the movie instead of the technology.. I dunno about u guys but if u go read the Blu-ray thread, ppl there seem to be buying the blu-rays because of the PQ and AQ. I think that's wrong.. tongue.gif
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^ sshhh....

rx is very active there biggrin.gif

hehe true true what u say.... about the buy because of the movie

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I know he's active there. In fact he's famous for his hamsup movies. Self professed of having a hamsuplogy degree.. biggrin.gif
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I don't have any light bleeding or dead pixel problems with my D series, totally satisfied with it. Furthermore I've bought this user posted image

and did the calibration last night and the result for PQ is even much better.... thumbup.gif thumbup.gif It comes with Blue, Red and Green filters so that you can properly calibrate the color output of your tv. The BD explains in details about HD stuffs and how to calibrate your HDTV the right way.
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^ I bought that Blu-ray too. While its not completely useless, its just not worth the price. There are no new materials.. Everything in there is taken from the old DVD that I have too.
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Well since you already have the DVD version, you shouldn't have bought it. As for me I don't have it before so I think it's worth it.
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Tot, can pinjam..I want to calibrate too
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have any1 been using KLV-40W400A series to connect PC in FULL HD mode(1920*1080)??

Is this TV capable to do so?

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^ Yep... No problem if u connect using HDMI. Did it using Notebook (HDMI) to W400 (HDMI). Just make sure u enable 1:1 pixel mapping on the W400.
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I'm looking forward to buy a bigger size LCD TV like 46" to 50" Full HD. Anyone know the best price at the moment for the different brand?
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eh, u guys, i not ard, toking behind my back is it? sad.gif

ah tot and welwit, tat disc susah to calibrate or not?
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Rx, I dunno about tot, but I don't recommend getting that blu-ray. Its not difficult to calibrate.
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its not difficult, but why aint u recomending it? or u got other better methods?
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rx, the disc is very easy to use to calibrate. there's a cheaper/free way to calibrate where you can download PLUGE test pattern and color bars but you still have to buy/get a blue filter in order to get good color result. If you have Casino Royale disc, there is already a PLUGE + color bars test pattern, just press triangle at the movie menu and key in thie number, 7669 and then ENTER.

what welwetchia meant was, you can buy the dvd version rather than the BD version because it's cheaper.
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tot, the test thingy is available on all sony bluray disc movie, 7669 tands for sony mar biggrin.gif

even iwth test pattern, no proper guide, also dunno how to tune

the callibration disc would teach u step by step wat to do?
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QUOTE(welwitchia @ Apr 17 2008, 11:10 PM)
I dunno about 100Hz panels but I thought what's important is the panel's ability to support 24p and the W400 does support it.

U might wanna read the review on a 100Hz display (a kick a$$ one too)
http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/Samsung-LE40F86BD/

Here's a quote from the review
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If I'm not wrong, the F8 has a bug with the 100 Hz motion plus not working as it should. I think even on the Bravia X series, you need to turn off the Motion plus and manally set the refresh rates to multiples of 24 Hz to make 1080/24p playback possible.

Anyway, there is a difference between a panel that accepts 1080/24p and converts it to 1080/60p via 3:2 pulldown process and panels that really play 24p material at 2:2 (48 Hz), 3:3 (72 Hz), 4:4 (96 Hz) and 5:5 (120 Hz).

BTW, I just got the 46W400A and as much as any other new owners of the W400 series, I want to believe otherwise but the more I read, the more I'm convince that my earlier understanding about 1080/24p is flawed. The only Bravia line that really plays back 1080/24p is the X series. cry.gif

Perhaps as a last effort thing when I get back, I'll check if the refresh rate on the W400 panel can be changed to multiples of 24 Hz (48 Hz, 72 Hz, 96 Hz, 120 Hz). If can, then it's possible to play back at 1080/24p. biggrin.gif


Added on April 28, 2008, 4:31 pm
QUOTE(tot31 @ Apr 18 2008, 01:35 AM)
W series doesn't have 100Hz, the D and X series have and Sony 100Hz is not a hype...I own the D series and I can see the difference...D series also have 1080/24p true cinema...


Wait a minute... D series does 1080p?


Added on April 28, 2008, 4:32 pm
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I would choose LC42A63M over 40W400A.
Spec wise LC42A63M is better and more value for $$$.
LC42A63M is RM6,499.
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Are you sure spec wise the A63 is better than the W400A? hmm.gif


Added on April 28, 2008, 4:33 pm
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Guys,

Some sharing of price and also your feedback on the below LCD. Heard that the Aquos PQ is not that good compare to Sony???

Price I got below is b4 negotiation/hagging

1. Sony 40W400A - RM6999

2. Sharp Aquos 42A63 - RM7499

3. Sharp Aquos 46A63 - RM 9499
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Try the 46W400A. I was in the same shoes as you a few weeks back and compared the 46W400A with the 46A63 side by side. The Sony has better specs and slightly cheaper too.


Added on April 28, 2008, 4:34 pm
QUOTE(welwitchia @ Apr 25 2008, 04:09 PM)
On my W400, under "dim" conditions and a viewing a black JPEG, i noticed a very slight uneven greyish area on the top right.. Not a biggie but just u should know, its not perfect. Its also impossible to check while u're in the shop unless u ask them to turn the TV on in a pitch black room. I just check for dead pixels when I bought mine. I'm pretty sure the Sharps or any other LCD TVs will have the same issue.. Wonder if the plasmas have the same problems.


I'll check mine. By default, the panel is VERY bright. Just got to calibrate mine last night with EyeOne Display 2 and I think I got it almost perfect skintones. Had to turn down the backlight down a lot.


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QUOTE(tot31 @ Apr 25 2008, 04:56 PM)
and did the calibration last night and the result for PQ is even much better.... thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif It comes with Blue, Red and Green filters so that you can properly calibrate the color output of your tv. The BD explains in details about HD stuffs and how to calibrate your HDTV the right way.
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^ Yep... No problem if u connect using HDMI. Did it using Notebook (HDMI) to W400 (HDMI). Just make sure u enable 1:1 pixel mapping on the W400.
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Yup that's right. Through HDMI or through component. 1:1 mapping is not enabled by default. hmm.gif

For me, what I did was the DVI connector at the back of my notebook docking station and use a DVI to HDMI convertor to make connection to the TV.


Added on April 28, 2008, 4:40 pm
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I'm looking forward to buy a bigger size LCD TV like 46" to 50" Full HD.  Anyone know the best price at the moment for the different brand?
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Price should be somehwere close to 10k ballpark for the Full HD 1080p. Double the price if you go for 100 Hz and Full HD 1080p versions. Sony, Sharp, Toshiba ad Phillips offer comparable prices. Sony X series and Sharp A83 models are 1080p + 100Hz and their prices are way off the charts.

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Apr 28 2008, 04:30 PM)
Price should be somehwere close to 10k ballpark for the Full HD 1080p. Double the price if you go for 100 Hz and Full HD 1080p versions. Sony, Sharp, Toshiba ad Phillips offer comparable prices. Sony X series and Sharp A83 models are 1080p + 100Hz and their prices are way off the charts.
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Is it really neccesary to have 100hz? Most LCD have 5ms refresh rate and that is ghosting free already. And also bluray 1080P original fps is only 24 and its already progressive scan. Personally I don't think its neccesary.

Anyway, most PS3 and XBOX360 games are in 720P so would the pictures after upscale to 1080P appear not as nice on a 1080P LCD. Like standard tv programs would look bad on current HD sets.
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Question for all u sifu's out there i have ZERO knowlage about Tv's i just wana find out what kinda TV is this "LG 42PX4RV-TA" i tried google but keep going back 2 some indo website and i dont understand the specs... my dad got this TV about 1 and a half years ago free from the bank after buying a house..

Specs
# Resolution : 852 x 480
# Brightness : 1500 cd/m2
# Contrast ratio : 10.000 : 1
# XD Engine, DCDi
# Sound Output : 15W x 2 (SRS, BBE)
# Clear Filter
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# HDMI, Component, S-Video
# Dimension : 1252x654x94 (without stand)

Thks for ur help guys


PS:: will i get full PS3 experience from this TV?

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tis is a SD tv, not recomkendate for ps3, but very goo d for astro, dvd and ota channels
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The best to calibrate your tv is by using colorimeters but they are very expensive. Using DVE or Avia is the least I can do to get good PQ rather than nothing or blindly playing with the settings of the tv. I calibrated a few times until I got the best PQ to my eyes.

rx, the DVE BD explained in details about HD (audio and video) and also all the test patterns and it has a few demo clips in 1080p and 720p.

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thanks tot , mau jual ar?
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Apr 28 2008, 11:06 PM)
thanks tot , mau jual ar?
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Nope, I'm not selling this. I'm keeping it and will use this to help close and good friends to calibrate their LCD tvs. biggrin.gif
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Here's why I don't recommend that blu-ray

1) If u have the DVD version, there's absolutely no need to get this.. I might be wrong but the content is almost 99% similar
2) Everything in there is "OLD". Even the demonstration material is old..u can tell by the hair style and the shirt that the actor/actresses are wearing
3) The demonstration material is no where as good as kinda stuff that u get from today's new Blu-ray movies.
4) The only true rendered 1080p material is some form of "cheap" computer graphics.
5) Its supposed to be HD Basic Blu-ray, but u wont find a LCD TV or Plasma inside..duh
6) The TVs they show inside are all CRTs. (that alone will give u an indication that they're recycling old materials)

I guess the only thing worth while is the RGB color filter that u can use to calibrate your colors.

I thought the brightness calibration was not too bad but my default TV settings (Cinema mode) is already very close or accurate to what they recommended.

Oh one last thing, the way they presented the materials is boring.. I was struggling to keep awake.

Hmm.. keep in mind, this is from someone who has owned the DVD version. If u have not seen the DVD like tot31, it might be worth while. smile.gif
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Apr 29 2008, 10:33 AM)
sigh... im not in tot's golongan of buddies sad.gif
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u mean megatron ar?
aishey..... u saying me double standard lar.... sad.gif

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rx, since welwetchia got 2 DVE, ask him to sell you the BD version. I've downloaded a free version of HD calibration tool called AVCHD and burn it into a DVD+R and it can be used with PS3.

This AVCHD is also an excellent HD calibration tool and it's totally free, all you need is to buy the blue filter which you can get it at any professional Photo/Camera shops.

Rx, if you're in KL, I'll sure will help you to calibrate your tv but since you're in JB, that's impossible...
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^ tolong calibrate plasma boleh..??
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Hey Shumacky.. How much did u get u'r HDX Streamer for?
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QUOTE(tot31 @ Apr 29 2008, 10:16 PM)
rx, since welwetchia got 2 DVE, ask him to sell you the BD version. I've downloaded a free version of HD calibration tool called AVCHD and burn it into a DVD+R and it can be used with PS3.

This AVCHD is also an excellent HD calibration tool and it's totally free, all you need is to buy the blue filter which you can get it at any professional Photo/Camera shops.

Rx, if you're in KL, I'll sure will help you to calibrate your tv but since you're in JB, that's impossible...
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QUOTE(JiauBoy @ Apr 30 2008, 09:43 AM)
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Tot31, 32" full-HD oredy in Malaysia's market (Samsung), how? izzit gedebom? dlm dilema ni, ps3 or lcd tv, ps3 or lcd tv, ps3 or lcd tv until sleep..... zzzzzzzzzzzz biggrin.gif

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datuk seri, 1080p utk 32" not worth it, kalau nak 1080p beli 46" ke atas.
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bro tot, i paham ur kindness, appreciated

but since u so kind... got link to the avchd ar? biggrin.gif
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46" inch??? harga pun kedebom jugak lah... 32inch D series dah agak mustahil nak jupa dah skrng.. last week went to sony dealer in ampang, they will not re-stock anymore that model... damn..


Added on April 30, 2008, 10:52 amI think this is the best vid for noobie like me who want to know is it worth to throw your big money for big tv.. huhuhu..



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Datuk.. biggrin.gif
If u don't have a PS3 or a Blu-ray player, then there's no need to get a LCD TV right? biggrin.gif

I went to my neighbor's house last night and he was watching Astro on his projector, damn jialat.. I rather watch it on a CRT.

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Tot31, 32" full-HD oredy in Malaysia's market (Samsung), how? izzit gedebom? dlm dilema ni, ps3 or lcd tv, ps3 or lcd tv, ps3 or lcd tv until sleep..... zzzzzzzzzzzz biggrin.gif
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ya lorr.. hehehehe.. LCDTV+BELULEY, meleleh beb... hhuhuhuhuh.. lcdtv or ps3, i think i will go for both!!. hahahahahah
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Mr Rx330, u're one lazy fella..Google my friend, Google. biggrin.gif

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=948496

QUOTE(rx330 @ Apr 30 2008, 10:32 AM)
bro tot, i paham ur kindness, appreciated

but since u so kind... got link to the avchd ar? biggrin.gif
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kekekek, i dun weigh 105 kg for nothing
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unless the wii im getting is at usd 250 and got black with official warranty, if not, im boycotting it sad.gif

psst... wii fit can tahn until 105 kg ar?
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Hey Shumacky.. How much did u get u'r HDX Streamer for?
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Hi Guys,
I just bought my PS3 today so now emergency must buy LCD tv to play tongue.gif

Reccee at Jusco just now:
1. Sony Bravia 37" S series KLV 37s310a
8000:1 contrast, astro enhanced, 1366x768
RM4499

2. Sony Bravia 40" X series KLV40w400a
30000:1
RM7499

3. Haier 42" L42a16
DSM HD engine, 8000:1
RM4999

4. LG 42" 42C7R
10000:1
RM4499

5. JVC 42" LT42EX18
Clear SD
RM5099

My main purpose to play PS3 games, watch Bluray movies and of course watch ASTRO. Actually my budget below 5k la... if possible. Don't really need bigger than 40".

My worry is to get good quality picture for gaming and Astro. I read all the FAQ but still don't understand quite a lot. I know I'm aiming for below 12ms refresh rate ideally 5ms. Also higher contrast resolution the better. Definitely looking at HD ready is good enough right?

Also asking your advice what to ask when buying LCD tv. People at Jusco there not really knowledgeable or helpful. Harvey Norman helpful la but takut kena pancung there... Is there any shop you experts can recommend?

Thanks a lot.
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I have this

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2. Sony Bravia 40" X series KLV40w400a
30000:1
RM7499


So I recommend it tongue.gif
BTW, its a W series..not X
and it can be had for RM 7K or less.

Don't ask me how it looks with Astro.. I only use it for my DVDs, Blu-rays and PS3. Have yet to hooked up my Wii with it..

The only reason i'm replying this is I have nothing else to do while waiting for the damn GTA4 to install.. Arghhhh... biggrin.gif
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can recommend for me which brand and model i should get for budget rm2500 and below. really tight on budget. mainly used for playing ps3 and blu ray movie. thanks
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Eh thanks... so for PS3 picture good is it? Well, at 7k its 2k above my budget. No lah I don't think I will get it. Spend spend but must take care also. 5k is my limit... have to cari another one.

QUOTE(welwitchia @ Apr 30 2008, 11:12 PM)
I have this
So I recommend it  tongue.gif
BTW, its a W series..not X
and it can be had for RM 7K or less.

Don't ask me how it looks with Astro.. I only use it for my DVDs, Blu-rays and PS3. Have yet to hooked up my Wii with it..

The only reason i'm replying this is I have nothing else to do while waiting for the damn GTA4 to install.. Arghhhh... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(abasan @ May 1 2008, 11:13 AM)
Eh thanks... so for PS3 picture good is it? Well, at 7k its 2k above my budget. No lah I don't think I will get it. Spend spend but must take care also. 5k is my limit... have to cari another one.
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If you're looking at 40"/42" that supports 1080p at 5k budget, then you should look at Samsung / LG offferings.

Else, you can try Phillips 42PFL7432/98 for a little over 5k at the moment.
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AVS HD 709 calibration tool is as good as any comercial calibration tools selling out there. Just remember if you use this, you must buy the blue filter in order to do the color calibration, otherwise you can only calibrate black and white levels only....thinking of getting Datacolor SpyderTV or Spyder2...learning new stuffs are really fun...

One more thing to remember if you use PS3 as a hardware, either you calibrate it to be good for movies or to be good as playing games as you can't have both.

If you want to calibrate PS3 to be good for movies make sure RGB set to limit as AVS HD 709 black levels are set to 16 - 235. If you choose RGB to be set to FULL, the AVS HD 709 won't calibrate the black level properly as RGB Full black levels are set to 0 - 255. BD output HDMI set to Y Pb Pr not Automatic.
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ May 1 2008, 01:13 PM)
If you're looking at 40"/42" that supports 1080p at 5k budget, then you should look at Samsung / LG offferings.

Else, you can try Phillips 42PFL7432/98 for a little over 5k at the moment.
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thanks bro. Some guys were saying that 1080p not really an issue because most games on ps3 runs at 720... is this true?

Anyway, looking for that phillips model you mentioned..maybe try to get la. Someone was saying actually biggest manufacturer is Samsung and Sharp for Japanese model...but that Samsung quality going down. Donno how true la, but whatever the case, I must get my tv by this weekend. Otherwise die cannot play gta4.

i've check out the Phillips at ewarehouse http://www.ewarehouse.com.my/webshaper/sto...ProductItem=393
apparently contrast is 8000:1 and response time is 8ms.

Someone was saying to go for 5ms... and if possible 10000:1, but would the phillips stats be that bad for ps3? btw, its RM5399... if there's a real shop I rather go there and buy though.

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Guys... wanna ask... RM2.2k for a Sony Bravia 32' KLV-32S310A/B worth or not? This LCD good? wanna use it with PS3... hehee...


Added on May 1, 2008, 4:44 pmGuys... wanna ask... RM2.2k for a Sony Bravia 32' KLV-32S310A/B worth or not? This LCD good? wanna use it with PS3... hehee...

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QUOTE(tot31 @ May 1 2008, 02:42 PM)
AVS HD 709 calibration tool is as good as any comercial calibration tools selling out there. Just remember if you use this, you must buy the blue filter in order to do the color calibration, otherwise you can only calibrate black and white levels only....thinking of getting Datacolor SpyderTV or Spyder2...learning new stuffs are really fun...
Can the AVS HD 709 calibration tool calibrate brightness and correct colour temperature?


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QUOTE(abasan @ May 1 2008, 03:27 PM)
thanks bro. Some guys were saying that 1080p not really an issue because most games on ps3 runs at 720... is this true?


Sorry, I'm no gamer. smile.gif But you did mention Bluray. So I assume you want 1080p.


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i've check out the Phillips at ewarehouse http://www.ewarehouse.com.my/webshaper/sto...ProductItem=393
apparently contrast is 8000:1 and response time is 8ms.



QUOTE(abasan @ May 1 2008, 03:27 PM)
Someone was saying to go for 5ms... and if possible 10000:1, but would the phillips stats be that bad for ps3? btw, its RM5399... if there's a real shop I rather go there and buy though.
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Hmmm, my W400A is 8ms panel... How? biggrin.gif

Best is to go to Besk Denki, Harvey Norman etc to audition the set. See if you like it. Then buy somewhere else where it's cheaper.

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AVS HD 709 is one of the best calibration tool, it can do everything i.e black and white levels, color correction, sharpness, overscan and gamma. It can be used with or without any calibration devices. I've already ordered Spyder 2 colorimeter to get better accurate calibration.
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Anyone bought before from ewarehouse.com? Their stuff cheaper than conventional stores la... some 400-500 cheaper. Just wondering if their service is good in case anything happen... I can't tahan already. Must have LCD tv before the week is out. But these guys take 2-3 days to deliver... aiyahh...
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tot, i tested the avc yesterday... the 1st one is for brightness one... i read the forum, tak paham ler.... sad.gif

and as u stated, do not set rgb full?

can u post pics of the blue filter?
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anyone can give me legend lcd at ss2 phone number?

want to ask for some price. thanks
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actually i did Google

but i Googled Legend LCD & Hi-Fi

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Finally I manage to find info on TX-37LZ800MK  biggrin.gif
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Unless you are sitting very near then that other story already
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Just to update you guys that because I got a lot of input from board and friends, below 40" no point buying full hd. And 37" is ideal for my room right now because of viewing distance. So at first opted for phillips 37TA2800, quite ok specs at RM3350 from ewarehouse.

Then because of some reason, they brought it to my house yesterday without the screws. So basically I also kena screwed cannot play GTA4. Anyway, discuss with them and came to the conclusion that this model going to be phased out and looks old. So got Sharp 37A33m instead for RM3690. Woo hoo... read the review in nst last month. So quite new la.

Got it today and can now play my ps3 for the very first time. smile.gif
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hey guys, i know you've seen these questions popup like a gazillion times here smile.gif

but anyways, its time for me to splurge on an LCD TV. budget is very limited (max RM3500) so no 1080p native res sets. currently narrowed down to these 3:

LG 37LC7R
toshiba 37AV500E/37A3500E (dunno whats the difference? only the 37A3500E is listed in toshibas website)
sharp LC37PX5M

i know these are considered obsolete models that are being phased out but prices are really tumbling down now.

right now im eyeing the LG as i saw it being demoed in best denki running blu-ray few weeks back. PQ is quite good and i know it uses S-IPS panel (some say it has faroudja upscaling, not too sure), but im unsure of LG warranty. anyone owns an LG set here? second will be the sharp as ive heard quite a lot of good reviews on their lcd tvs. the toshiba is a big question mark. anyone know where i can demo it?

appreciate your feedback, thanx in advance notworthy.gif
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Guys, would u recommend is Philips good enough for the PS3? Been looking at the Price, and I think its solid a Full HD HDTV. Are there any other suggestions that I could look at?

I'm looking for a Full HD, 40 or 42inch at 5k to 6k of price. Thanks. smile.gif
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Yap , i have tried the NEC NP 100 projector. Very good for a small projector. But you need a room with good lighting environment.
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guys, what is the color depth of an lcd tv?? most brands do not show the color depth spec. i also note that color gradation in LCD TV is really poor as compared to normal crt or lcd monitor. i heard most lcd tv using 8 bit to represent RGB giving only 16.7M colors. see Wikipedia on 8 bit RGB

Is that so even in FULL HD LCD TV?

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QUOTE(dracozz @ May 17 2008, 11:49 AM)
guys, what is the color depth of an lcd tv?? most brands do not show the color depth spec. i also note that color gradation in LCD TV is really poor as compared to normal crt or lcd monitor. i heard most lcd tv using 8 bit to represent RGB giving only 16.7M colors. see Wikipedia on 8 bit RGB

Is that so even in FULL HD LCD TV?
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hi guy is ATI 3870 card with HDMI input able to output full screen in sony W series 40" Full HD LCDTV as i planning to buy this both stuff ......

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hi guy is ATI 3870 card with HDMI input able to output full screen in sony W series 40" Full HD LCDTV as i planning to buy this both stuff ......

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hi guys, im new on this LCD stuff.. i just bought a brand new LC32A53M recommended by the seller.. the prob is 1 of my frens said that the sharp lcd that i bought got the lowest contrast ratio around 7500:1 not like sony KLV-32S400A 15000:1 or the new LG Scarlet LG60UR 32" whooping 50000:1. plus the price gap not that wide wif each others ... am i got screwed?? or the seller was rite? the LCD i always use for watching ASTRO or DVD. Thx for any help. hope not to be like this >>>> doh.gif vmad.gif
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If the price between u'r model and the latest Sony and LG is not that big, then.... well, u didn't get screwed. You just made a misinformed decision on your purchase. If you're happy with the picture you're getting, just be happy with it. The specs keep getting higher but that doesn't always equate to better picture quality. I know how u feel, u kept thinking that u should have gotten the Sony or the LG.. oh well, if u can't get an exchange, just live with u'r new purchase. smile.gif
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i did get screwed doh.gif but still im so confused the shop that i bought got all sort of LCD n i mean all but why he choose sharp aquos over any other even the sony S400A mayb sharp lost in the contrast wise but other specs it got xtra kick rclxub.gif
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hi...noob here...what is the best 32" and 40" out there? i need it for living room and ps3...
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below rm4000...is that ok?
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Maybe they have tons of Sharp in stock and maybe Sharp LCDs have a higher profit margin.

QUOTE(hasnul @ May 21 2008, 09:43 AM)
i did get screwed doh.gif  but still im so confused the shop that i bought got all sort of LCD n i mean all but why he choose sharp aquos over any other even the sony S400A mayb sharp lost in the contrast wise but other specs it got xtra kick rclxub.gif
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Hello guys. I'm from JB. I asked one shop and the salesman quoted me the price of Sony 32" KLV-32S400A as RM2,350. Is it a good deal?
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Ya it's a good deal...around here in KL, the price is still RM2499. But at Jusco i just bought last weekend for RM2374 coz of its 5% discount.
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QUOTE(PhoenixByte @ May 22 2008, 01:25 PM)
Ya it's a good deal...around here in KL, the price is still RM2499. But at Jusco i just bought last weekend for RM2374 coz of its 5% discount.
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Oh, quite good deal also! How to get the 5% discount? Tunjuk J-Card ke? blush.gif

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undead, tis one new type of S series is it? i tot 1999 saja?
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Eh, where got 1,999 bro Rx?? I asked around JB at most shops they will quote 2,499. Only that 1 shop in Century Garden is 2,350. Yes, this one new S Series. Going to replace the S310A. nod.gif
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Undead,
No lah...it's coz of the Jusco Sale they're having happy.gif
i oso dunno bout the discount...only after they're writing the bill did they mention it. U should ask at Jusco whether they still have that discount this week...coz...u knowlah Jusco, u can get points and exchange for vouchers afterwards.

(u can have a look a the astro pic quality i have posted at LCD thread below in the console couch)

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well i wanna ask, can u even differentiate the quality between 1080i and 1080p?
sadly my lcd tv only supports up to 1080i.
but im usin 1080i to play gta4 instead of 720p.
1080i much more sharper.
but seriously i cant differentiate whats the big diff between progressive and interlaced..
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undead, my bad, must be the old models then biggrin.gif

if u willign to pay cash, u can try buying from this store in plentong, opposite giant, beside HSL, goes by the name of AES
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well i wanna ask, can u even differentiate the quality between 1080i and 1080p?
sadly my lcd tv only supports up to 1080i.
but im usin 1080i to play gta4 instead of 720p.
1080i much more sharper.
but seriously i cant differentiate whats the big diff between progressive and interlaced..
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i bought RM2300. sony bravia KLV-32S400A. Free S video cable as well. better one i guess.
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QUOTE(chloelew @ May 26 2008, 01:41 PM)
i bought RM2300. sony bravia KLV-32S400A. Free S video cable as well. better one i guess.
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Wow, damn powderful your bargaining skills! notworthy.gif So far, the cheapest quote I can get in JB is RM2,350. Maybe must go look somemore. AES ha bro rx330? I see, tomorrow ronda2 plentong lah. Haha
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er which one is better for sony 32 eh .. new S series or old V series?
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I dont know which one is better but IINM the new S series, S400A and also coming soon, the new V series, V400A) is using the new Bravia Engine called BE2. Old S/V series, using BE only. Don't know got huge difference or not.
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hi guys really need a help from all the sifu in here ..

planning to get a 37" lcd tv after a month of surveying i narrow down my choice either sharp aquous 37a53m or toshiba regza a3000e or any other suggestion from u guys really2x appreciate for the feedback....

will using it for astro, dvd & games console & pc
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Hello guys, can you help me? I just bought a new LCD TV 32" S400A. After connecting it to my ps3, it wont switch to 720p. Just 576p. I've done the reset display thing by holding the power button longer.

I suspect my HDMI cable la. Because it's a capalang RM30 one. Got this kind of problem or not for any of you s400a users?


Added on May 27, 2008, 9:55 pmAnyone from JB got extra HDMI cable for me to borrow for awhile?

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QUOTE(TheUndead @ May 27 2008, 09:50 PM)
Hello guys, can you help me? I just bought a new LCD TV 32" S400A. After connecting it to my ps3, it wont switch to 720p. Just 576p. I've done the reset display thing by holding the power button longer.

I suspect my HDMI cable la. Because it's a capalang RM30 one. Got this kind of problem or not for any of you s400a users?
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s400a user here..
i cant access 720p using my computer,either.
wtf doh.gif

have you tried playing a game?
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QUOTE(TheUndead @ May 27 2008, 09:50 PM)
Hello guys, can you help me? I just bought a new LCD TV 32" S400A. After connecting it to my ps3, it wont switch to 720p. Just 576p. I've done the reset display thing by holding the power button longer.

I suspect my HDMI cable la. Because it's a capalang RM30 one. Got this kind of problem or not for any of you s400a users?


Added on May 27, 2008, 9:55 pmAnyone from JB got extra HDMI cable for me to borrow for awhile?
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did you head over to the display settings and tick the 720p? smile.gif
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s400a user here..
i cant access 720p using my computer,either.
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have you tried playing a game?
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yes, i tried gta4. at the upper left corner, it says "480p" pulak! rclxub.gif

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did you head over to the display settings and tick the 720p?  smile.gif
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done that already sad.gif

*sighs* now tomorrow must head back to the shop and ask them if they know what's wrong. is it possible the culprit is my el-cheapo hdmi cable? got kena mengena or not?
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QUOTE(TheUndead @ May 27 2008, 10:43 PM)
yes, i tried gta4. at the upper left corner, it says "480p" pulak! rclxub.gif
done that already  sad.gif

*sighs* now tomorrow must head back to the shop and ask them if they know what's wrong. is it possible the culprit is my el-cheapo hdmi cable? got kena mengena or not?
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erm..have you tried checking the TV's settings?
maybe got a setting to enable 720p?
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QUOTE(TerryZeroX @ May 27 2008, 10:44 PM)
Don't think its the el-cheapo hdmi cables, 20bucks hdmi cable from play-asia works like charm too. You could always try other hdmi cable to confirm it
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That's what i'm going to do tomorrow. Try borrow the tv shop's hdmi cable and see.

QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ May 27 2008, 10:45 PM)
erm..have you tried checking the TV's settings?
maybe got a setting to enable 720p?
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hm.. donno lah.. havent finish reading the manual yet. hehe. you can get 720p on ps3?
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QUOTE(TheUndead @ May 27 2008, 11:05 PM)
That's what i'm going to do tomorrow. Try borrow the tv shop's hdmi cable and see.
hm.. donno lah.. havent finish reading the manual yet. hehe. you can get 720p on ps3?
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dude,you have me scared,right now sweat.gif

first thing; i cant get 720p with my laptop
now you cant get 720p with the ps3,WITH HDMI cables shocking.gif doh.gif

my enthusiasm for getting the ps3 is lowering now.. laugh.gif

try this:

on your remote,press MENU.
then go to SETTINGS.
then fiddle around there.
there's a SETUP option,which also includes a HDMI MENU.

try that
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the s400 can only go 1024 x 768 and other xxxx X 768 resolution on the pc connection. But for the hdmi connection the manual says u can get 720p...i haven't try it though since i dun have a ps3 nor an xbox360.

so, i hope u guys can tell the result of ur fidlling afterwards happy.gif

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Hmm, that's what I thought too. 720p should be supported by any bravia 32 inchers rite? I'll be back.. with answers..
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morning guys... undead where u bought ur s400 from since u said u from jb right & i'm still in the midst of surveying maybe can suggest certain certain shop which got gud offer .. laugh.gif
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uh oh..... S 499 kenot accept 720p input?

can it support 1080p input?
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QUOTE(m@x @ May 28 2008, 09:16 AM)
morning guys... undead where u bought ur s400 from since u said u from jb right & i'm still in the midst of surveying maybe can suggest certain certain shop which got gud offer ..  laugh.gif
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I bought from Kedai TV dan Radio Wong at Century Garden. Ask for special price 'cause if you ask them first time, they will give you the price from the Sony Guide, which is RM2,499. I got mine much less than that ;-)

QUOTE(rx330 @ May 28 2008, 09:37 AM)
uh oh..... S 499 kenot accept 720p input?

can it support 1080p input?
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I'm still investigating this. Takkanla Bravia cannot accept 720p input rite? Must be my HDMI cable la. Got any extra for me to pinjam or not laupan? sweat.gif
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thanks bro will go to that shop later.... wink.gif
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Guys,
I might be wrong, but for a LCD TV to accept a 720p resolution from its VGA connector, u need Powestrip, which is a basically a utility than runs on your PC so that u can create a custom resolution for your VGA output
http://entechtaiwan.net/util/ps.shtm

There's a guide here
http://www.ramelectronics.net/powerstrip.ep

Edit : Oh wait, u're talking about HDMI, my bad..please ignore my post, I just woke up tongue.gif

QUOTE(PhoenixByte @ May 28 2008, 07:27 AM)
the s400 can only go 1024 x 768 and other xxxx X 768 resolution on the pc connection. But for the hdmi connection the manual says u can get 720p...i haven't try it though since i dun have a ps3 nor an xbox360.

so, i hope u guys can tell the result of ur fidlling afterwards happy.gif
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QUOTE(PhoenixByte @ May 28 2008, 07:27 AM)
the s400 can only go 1024 x 768 and other xxxx X 768 resolution on the pc connection. But for the hdmi connection the manual says u can get 720p...i haven't try it though since i dun have a ps3 nor an xbox360.

so, i hope u guys can tell the result of ur fidlling afterwards happy.gif
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actually,the S400A can accept a maximum of 1600*1200 when connected to a pc via vga cable.
the weird thing is, 720p cant be selected(the tv will say it is out of range) rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(welwitchia @ May 28 2008, 11:05 AM)
Guys,
I might be wrong, but for a LCD TV to accept a 720p resolution from its VGA connector, u need Powestrip, which is a basically a utility than runs on your PC so that u can create a custom resolution for your VGA output
http://entechtaiwan.net/util/ps.shtm

There's a guide here
http://www.ramelectronics.net/powerstrip.ep

Edit : Oh wait, u're talking about HDMI, my bad..please ignore my post, I just woke up  tongue.gif
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Its plug and play for my tv laugh.gif
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undead, trust me, not ur cable issue

ntsc pal issue? not possible also...
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Hokeyh, I sudah pergi that kedai again during lunch hour just now. I borrowed their HDMI cable to test. Will provide answer later2.. tunggguuuuu
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S400A has 3 HDMI inputs if I'm not mistaken. Have you try all the HDMI inputs? There's a possibility that the cable could be the culprit, which means that you're very unlucky. I'm using a cheap HDMI cable bought from Play-Asia with my Sony D series and got no problems.

After I did the greyscale calibation using the Spyder2 colorimeter and ColorHCFR, my Bravia PQ now is superb either with BD movies or HD mkv files. DVE calibration disc didn't give a very satisfying result. I went to the service menu to achieve D65K calibration standard.
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QUOTE(runemastertan @ May 4 2008, 03:26 AM)
It seems to be full HD, but what is the purpose to buy a Full HD on a 37" LCD TV? Get at least 42", or the very least 40".

Unless you are sitting very near then that other story already
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Well, fulll HD is useful for 32" / 37" if you use it as a computer monitor. biggrin.gif


Added on May 28, 2008, 4:46 pm
QUOTE(tot31 @ May 28 2008, 04:39 PM)
After I did the greyscale calibation using the Spyder2 colorimeter and ColorHCFR, my Bravia PQ now is superb either with BD movies or HD mkv files. DVE calibration disc didn't give a very satisfying result. I went to the service menu to achieve D65K calibration standard.
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That's why I personally doubted you when you said earlier that DVE calibration alone is enough... Congrats.


Added on May 28, 2008, 4:47 pm
QUOTE(squall_12 @ May 19 2008, 11:18 AM)
hi guy is ATI 3870 card with HDMI input able to output full screen in sony W series 40" Full HD LCDTV as i planning to buy this both stuff ......

thanks
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I'm using an old ATI X1300 on my laptop and I'm able to output 1080p on the 46" W400 using DVI to HDMI connection. You should not have any problems with your 3870 card.

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At least my DVE disc is not a waste as I use it's test patterns to calibrate with the Spyder2 and ColorHCFR....I've also learned a lot on HD basics through the DVE disc, now I'm watching BD movies in a dark room with only a 5w energy saver bulb put at the back of my bravia.... now thinking wheteher to get an i1 LT or not..... :stars

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QUOTE(TheUndead @ May 28 2008, 02:31 PM)
Hokeyh, I sudah pergi that kedai again during lunch hour just now. I borrowed their HDMI cable to test. Will provide answer later2.. tunggguuuuu
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definitely is your cable...me too using ps3 with lg 32 inch (lglc7)....then go lowyat computer shop buy ciplak hdmi cable(regret) for rm50.. can get anything more than 576p... done the system reset and anything i can think off..then go buy new hdmi cable VERSION 1.3 with label ziraffe(gold platted) on the connector...and thing turns fine..even can select 1080p as output with no problem...
version 1.1 hdmi cable gives u headache


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QUOTE(DioSchifoso @ May 28 2008, 06:31 PM)
definitely is your cable...me too using ps3 with lg 32 inch (lglc7)....then go lowyat computer shop buy ciplak hdmi cable(regret) for rm50.. can get anything more than 576p... done the system reset and anything i can think off..then go buy new hdmi cable VERSION 1.3 with label ziraffe(gold platted) on the connector...and thing turns fine..even can select 1080p as output with no problem...
version 1.1 hdmi cable gives u headache
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typo... should be can't get more than 576p...if select 720p 1080i and 1080p the screen flicking on and off

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QUOTE(tot31 @ May 28 2008, 05:09 PM)
At least my DVE disc is not a waste as I use it's test patterns to calibrate with the Spyder2 and ColorHCFR....I've also learned a lot on HD basics through the DVE disc, now I'm watching BD movies in a dark room with only a 5w energy saver bulb put at the back of my bravia.... now thinking wheteher to get an i1 LT or not..... :stars
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Bro tot .. that shop in wangsa maju still got D series?

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rclxms.gif GOOD NEWS EVERYONE!! rclxms.gif

My KLV-32S400A and PS3 finally working perfectly together! Now I have my LCDTV display at 720p/1080p. The problem was, as I might have guessed it, my capalang HDMI cable. laugh.gif

Sorry bad quality. Just a handphone shot. LOL
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@Mgsrulz: come, come.. buy that ps3 NOW!! dont worry, the s400a supports 720p, just be sure to get yourself a decent hdmi cable flex.gif
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QUOTE(skidd @ May 28 2008, 07:36 PM)
Bro tot .. that shop in wangsa maju still got D series?
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I'm not sure, you can try to contact and ask them. Here are their details

UNHUAT ELECTRONIC SDN BHD
12 & 14, JLN 1A/27A, SEC 1, BDR BARU WANGSA MAJU, SETAPAK, KUALA LUMPUR. (near Jaya Jusco)
tel : 03-41495982 fax : 03-41432688
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hehehe tq tq .. mintak mintak ade lagi la
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QUOTE(TheUndead @ May 28 2008, 07:46 PM)
rclxms.gif GOOD NEWS EVERYONE!! rclxms.gif

My KLV-32S400A and PS3 finally working perfectly together! Now I have my LCDTV display at 720p/1080p. The problem was, as I might have guessed it, my capalang HDMI cable. laugh.gif

Sorry bad quality. Just a handphone shot. LOL
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@Mgsrulz: come, come.. buy that ps3 NOW!! dont worry, the s400a supports 720p, just be sure to get yourself a decent hdmi cable flex.gif
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awesome,bro rclxms.gif
just got my PS3 just now, tomorrow going to buy HDMI cable rclxm9.gif

thanks for the GREAT NEWS! rclxms.gif notworthy.gif
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wah, undead, really hdmi cable ar tongue.gif
kekekkeek, sorry , all gip u wrong info
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lucky my cheaplug cable support.
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QUOTE(rx330 @ May 29 2008, 09:39 AM)
wah, undead, really hdmi cable ar tongue.gif
kekekkeek, sorry , all gip u wrong info
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Aiyaa.. it's ok la. Not wrong info, just their opinion/suggestions. So happy now I solved it on my own sweat.gif

Anyway, thanks Mgsrulz, TerryZeroX, rx330, tot31, DioSchifoso for your support! rclxms.gif


Added on May 29, 2008, 11:36 am@JiauBoy: Yay! Good for you rclxms.gif

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how is the LG Scarlet?? for gaming purpose??

LCD / PLASMA???

Plasma Viera from panasonic / LG Scarlet??

one thing i know is scarlet is Full HD rite? Pls reply ASAP
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the only think i can reply abt scarlett... it looks horrible...
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^ Not only that, it has a hole in the middle. To turn it on, u need to put u'r hands in and caress it. Yuck.. But I believe one of the models have a build in DVB tuner..
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what abbout panasonic 32" lx-800mk or sony V400a?
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welwit, i dunno abt this scarlett, but sammy used to have one model in spore, call IDTV, integrated digital tv ithink, with dvb tuner

so if u bought tat tv, u can only receive dvb signal, completely cut off from analog signal, since not all shows in spore are digital, can only receive a few selelcted channels, the rest all kenot watch tongue.gif
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i dunno if these model are in here but these sharp aquos LC-32GP1U definately a beast, hey its provide 1080p and its actually develope 4 next gen gamers....wow, u guys should check it out


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but the scarlet is the only cheap Full HD tv i know


Added on May 30, 2008, 2:25 pmone more thing

wat is this thing

HD ready vs HD ready 1080p (HD Ready 1080p is full hd rite?? weird le why need so much name for )

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how much is the scarlett?
cheap thing no good, good thing no cheap? biggrin.gif
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cheap things don't mean good and good things don't come cheap....the main point here..just buy whatever that is suit to your budget and be happy with it....
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the scarlett is 42inch 6400+ (just wondering izzit full hd?)

and i just wanna know the price for the Philip Ambilight 42 inch


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I just read an article about How to decide for choosing HDTV Ready or Full HD. It says not to go for Full HD if buy 32" LCD TV coz there's no significant difference to see high res in a small screen.

Btw, I'm targeting on the latest 32" Samsung Series 4 model. Any bad comments on Samsung LCD TV? Some said the tv is too bright.

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