Hi guys, I'm looking at 1080p LCD / Plasma panels. Is the Philips any good? I saw in the papers that they are having promo.

42PFL9532/98 - RM 12,999 (out of my league I think)
47PFL7422/98 - RM 7999
42PFL7432/98 - RM 6499

What's the difference between the 1st and 3rd Philips 42" model?

Any comments on other similar Toshiba / Sharp and Sony models? I've seen Sony high end models (1080p capable) being very expensive.
Thanks.

Thanks for the feedback. I tried to view it in the shop but I too found that fast scenes are a little jerky. Thought it was something to do witht he source but since you mentioned it, it may be the panel... Would a 100Hz panel solve this?

Ummm, 100Hz + 1080p is bloody expensive. The more I read, the more I kena racun !

Anyway, the Sony KLV-40W400A specs look interesting. Price is not bad too...

Just realised this. I read somewhere that the 32" is only 8 bit panel unlike the other W models.

welwitchia, can you test to see if your 40" outputs 1080p using component? Just curious since I plan to play HD content through my notebook which has VGA out but does not have HDMI or DVI. I understand with the proper cables, VGA can breakout to component. Thanks.

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Added on April 15, 2008, 11:25 amThanks for the info. I guess if you were going for 32", 1080p does not matter. D series is a better buy then.

I'm currently itching for the 46W400A (or the Sharp 46" A63). Kena racun because I saw it side by side against the 40".

This post has been edited by jchue73: Apr 15 2008, 11:25 AM

VGA would do fine. Thanks. Does the W series have direct VGA connection? If yes, better for me. I was under the impression it did not have and hence have to use VGA ---> component.



I'm also leaning towards the Sony. The Sharp was showing the same Bluray promo disc and somewhat briefly got to compare it against the Sony. The colours were not as vibrant (maybe a little setting here and there) and fast scenes were not as smooth as the Sony.

The A63 does not have 10bit panel? Also no 1024p/24? Price wise, both the A63 and W400A series seem to be about the same...

If I'm not wrong, the F8 has a bug with the 100 Hz motion plus not working as it should. I think even on the Bravia X series, you need to turn off the Motion plus and manally set the refresh rates to multiples of 24 Hz to make 1080/24p playback possible.

Anyway, there is a difference between a panel that accepts 1080/24p and converts it to 1080/60p via 3:2 pulldown process and panels that really play 24p material at 2:2 (48 Hz), 3:3 (72 Hz), 4:4 (96 Hz) and 5:5 (120 Hz).

BTW, I just got the 46W400A and as much as any other new owners of the W400 series, I want to believe otherwise but the more I read, the more I'm convince that my earlier understanding about 1080/24p is flawed. The only Bravia line that really plays back 1080/24p is the X series.

Perhaps as a last effort thing when I get back, I'll check if the refresh rate on the W400 panel can be changed to multiples of 24 Hz (48 Hz, 72 Hz, 96 Hz, 120 Hz). If can, then it's possible to play back at 1080/24p.

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Added on April 28, 2008, 4:31 pm

Wait a minute... D series does 1080p?

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Added on April 28, 2008, 4:32 pmAre you sure spec wise the A63 is better than the W400A?

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Added on April 28, 2008, 4:33 pmTry the 46W400A. I was in the same shoes as you a few weeks back and compared the 46W400A with the 46A63 side by side. The Sony has better specs and slightly cheaper too.

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Added on April 28, 2008, 4:34 pm

I'll check mine. By default, the panel is VERY bright. Just got to calibrate mine last night with EyeOne Display 2 and I think I got it almost perfect skintones. Had to turn down the backlight down a lot.

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Added on April 28, 2008, 4:34 pmTo properly calibrate, you need an external probe to measure brightness, contrast and WB correctly.

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Added on April 28, 2008, 4:38 pmYup that's right. Through HDMI or through component. 1:1 mapping is not enabled by default.

For me, what I did was the DVI connector at the back of my notebook docking station and use a DVI to HDMI convertor to make connection to the TV.

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Added on April 28, 2008, 4:40 pmPrice should be somehwere close to 10k ballpark for the Full HD 1080p. Double the price if you go for 100 Hz and Full HD 1080p versions. Sony, Sharp, Toshiba ad Phillips offer comparable prices. Sony X series and Sharp A83 models are 1080p + 100Hz and their prices are way off the charts.

This post has been edited by jchue73: Apr 28 2008, 04:40 PM

If you're looking at 40"/42" that supports 1080p at 5k budget, then you should look at Samsung / LG offferings.

Else, you can try Phillips 42PFL7432/98 for a little over 5k at the moment.

Can the AVS HD 709 calibration tool calibrate brightness and correct colour temperature?

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Added on May 1, 2008, 4:56 pm

Sorry, I'm no gamer. But you did mention Bluray. So I assume you want 1080p.





Hmmm, my W400A is 8ms panel... How?

Best is to go to Besk Denki, Harvey Norman etc to audition the set. See if you like it. Then buy somewhere else where it's cheaper.

This post has been edited by jchue73: May 1 2008, 04:56 PM

Well, fulll HD is useful for 32" / 37" if you use it as a computer monitor.

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Added on May 28, 2008, 4:46 pmThat's why I personally doubted you when you said earlier that DVE calibration alone is enough... Congrats.

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Added on May 28, 2008, 4:47 pmI'm using an old ATI X1300 on my laptop and I'm able to output 1080p on the 46" W400 using DVI to HDMI connection. You should not have any problems with your 3870 card.

This post has been edited by jchue73: May 28 2008, 04:47 PM

The W400A is not 100Hz panel even though it's 1080p. This panel is below the X series which is 1080p and 100Hz.

Well, the W400A is quite similar to the V400A series in shape, size and weight series except for the Wide Colour Gamut and 10bit backpanel available on the W400A.

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Added on July 30, 2008, 3:16 pm

Is the 32" W400A available in Malaysia?

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Added on July 30, 2008, 3:26 pm

Don't think the V400A or the S400A panel for that matter is 10bit though.

This post has been edited by jchue73: Jul 30 2008, 03:26 PM

Yes it does. Especially for scenes with panning motion or fast action scenes.

What's the price of the Samsung 6 series? If the Samsung is also Full HD at 100Hz and cheaper than Sony W400A series, then it's something worth considering.

Can you give an example of a lowsy FullHD vs good HD Ready? I don't think a lot can understand what you're trying to say.

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Added on August 13, 2008, 8:56 pm

Wah, this is the first time I'm hearing. Especially with the prices you got.

This post has been edited by jchue73: Aug 13 2008, 08:56 PM