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SSJBen
post Feb 11 2008, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(abasan @ Feb 8 2008, 06:39 PM)
Hello guys,

can you advice me which model for 32" or 37" is good value for money. Want to watch astro and play ps3 on it.. thanks.

I got price from harvey norman 2799 - samsung R81
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I think for 2799 you can get the Sony Bravia V series 32" isn't it?

Depends on the place you gonna put your TV though. Bedroom, I would say 32" is nice enough. 37" is more for like a small living room.
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post Feb 16 2008, 06:34 AM

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I may be picking the recently released LG 32LB9R/1 for my bedroom(32 inch is definitely the max I can go since I don't have a large enough space for anything else).

So, anyone has opinions on it? So far from reviews, its been pretty good. Quite a few says its even better than the Sony Bravia 32V300A.
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post Feb 16 2008, 06:54 PM

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Exactly that, which is why I'm pondering to pick the LG up instead of the Sony since their prices are pretty close to each other.
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post Mar 2 2008, 04:21 AM

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A high-end LCD/DLP Projector is so much better than any LCD/Plasma around. Especially when you bring your size up tp the 100" range. The amount of money you saved versus the 100" Plasma Panasonic has is immense.
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post Aug 28 2008, 05:54 PM

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shocking.gif Sony Unveils 240hz LCD TV and the Thinnest One Yet shocking.gif

The price is going to kill though sweat.gif

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post Sep 1 2008, 08:25 AM

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QUOTE(Mr Ez @ Sep 1 2008, 07:50 AM)
I bought this KLV32S400A, RM 2350 at Sen Heng, design looks nice, but when playing fast game like CoD4 and Forza 2 the ghosting is just terrible, I feel like wanna puke. Games like GTA4, Ace combat or PGR4 is fine though.

I guess I'm too used with my Samsung 22" 2ms monitor.

If you went to Sony website, it doesn't say how fast the response time for this TV, I wonder how fast you need to play game with minimal ghosting effect?
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Under 6ms GTG. But really, don't compare it with a 2ms GTG monitor.
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post Sep 9 2008, 02:57 AM

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QUOTE(gundamalpha @ Sep 8 2008, 11:22 PM)
I'm afraid not, what you buy is actually packaging and marketing. Sony has completely cut off their TV R&D about 3 years ago. Panels are bought from Samsung or Benq, while Bravia engine is 100% outsourced for tuning. You are paying the extra for the Sony "stamp" and marketing. Not to say they are terrible, but I, as a consumer, wouldn't agree with their business strategy.
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Indeed. Sony's BRAVIA is relatively good, but at a price you are paying for one you can easily get a better TV from LG, Sharp or even Toshiba at the same price point.

I'm not all for Philips Cineos though.... so damn sleek and sexy!
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post Oct 27 2008, 12:14 AM

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Between LG30 and Sharp A33, which is the better TV? Both are rather close in price.

Just want to know if either of these has overscanning problems?
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post Dec 30 2008, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(nicholaskong @ Dec 29 2008, 08:05 PM)
Hi guys. currently I'm using Toshiba 32' LCD..planning to upgrade to 42' soon..now deciding on the Sharp 42' full HD LCD or the Panasonic plasma 42PV80H HD ready

went to the shop and look at both models ady..now im more towards panasonic plasma but my concern is only its oni HD ready while not full HD..n i'll be using this TV mostly for astro and PS3

will the Sharp 42' full HD LCD looks better den the plasma HD ready when playing PS3 and also Bluray movies??

for the picture quality i saw at the shop i prefer the picture n colour of the plasma n i also saw the pioneer kuros 42' picture n colour quality is awesome..mayb will be getting the kuros if enough budget but jus worried how it will perform for ps3..will the plasma HD ready better den LCD full HD??

heard a lot of ppl say LCD is better den plasma for gaming??
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Getting a Full HD panel and using it for Astro means sacrificing quality even more than needed.

Plasma's color production have always been better than LCDs as well as black levels. Although LCDs has the edge in brightness, which is IMO quite important for gaming, it doesn't matter much for movies.

Now that you mention the Pioneer Kuro, even if it isn't their in house panels anymore the Kuros are still awesome.
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QUOTE(szhafri @ Jan 24 2009, 07:58 PM)
Hello im just need some advide. i saw a LG80FR 32inch at carefour for rm 2700 with 3 years warranty and also rm200 voucher. I been comapring with other models and so far this is the best deal .The specs are good 50kcontras and 4ms. Problem is i have no experiance with LG , is LG a good brand?  is it nesssary to bring my ps3 there to test whether its good or not?
plus im planing to connect my pc to it aswell.my grafic card is ATI4850HD(suports hd).

any advice..?

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Its not bad, considering that you have that RM200 voucher.
LG is a pretty damn good LCD and Plasma manufacturer. Infact personally its better than Samsuck and Toshitba(sorry I've had too many bad experiences with these 2). Right up there with Sharp and Phillips on LCD TVs.

Will be a wise choice to bring your PS3 along and then check it out on how well it looks first though.
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post Feb 25 2009, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(teckc @ Feb 25 2009, 02:33 PM)
does anyone know how often are the update cycles for samsung lcd tvs?

i plan to buy the samsung 32" 450 series which launched in august 2008 and afraid that new models will be out soon..
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Every 3-6 months.

You can expect new models on every CES.
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post Jun 5 2009, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(amduser @ Jun 5 2009, 12:59 PM)
me!!! LA32A650A1R, 6 series 32" full HD smile.gif

this is my first full HD also, cant give any comparison, if you really want to play PS3, full HD is a must, not even HD ready, must FULL HD 1080p brows.gif rclxm9.gif

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You do know.... that about 94% of PS3 games aren't even 720p native, right?
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post Jun 5 2009, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(amduser @ Jun 5 2009, 06:29 PM)
most of the games are 720p native, and there are few games which are 1080p
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They are upscaled 720p. The game's actual resolution is something that you'd be shocked if I tell you.
Games which are native 1080p(actual 1920x1080 pixels on screen)... I can't think of many. They are only PSN games.
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QUOTE(InkySliwinky @ Jun 7 2009, 04:57 PM)
Korean has problems i heard .. in any case which 1 would be best for gaming ? im looking at either sharp , sony or LG perhaps ?...
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Sony = Korean panels. rolleyes.gif
LG = Korean brand. rolleyes.gif


Theres no best. You should go test each of the ones you have your eyes on with your PS3.
What your eyes tells you, is the best.
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post Jun 18 2009, 02:07 AM

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QUOTE(amduser @ Jun 18 2009, 12:08 AM)
no, LCD good for HD movie, especially blu ray and also HD gaming

plasma good for astro and normal TV
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You've clearly never seen a Pioneer Kuro in action have you? brows.gif
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post Jun 18 2009, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(x_barrage @ Jun 18 2009, 08:54 AM)
Why don’t just saying we’ll don’t see Samsung LED TV on action do we? I’m talking about general LCD vs. Plasma especially on Panasonic & I’m also Pioneer HDTV fan but the price always make me think twice. We might have some plasma better than LCD TV & there is also good LCD TV can match plasma on HD video, but I’m talking about general. Plasma always have high amazingly contrast ratio while Korean LCD panel usually can try matching them up on other area.

In my opinion still LCD is better for gaming & plasma for HD movie regardless HD-DVD, blu-ray or digital download/stream. LCD had sharp display for tense viewing while plasma had soft display for pleasure viewing.  For more clear picture just go to any electronics store & make comparison. Probably your eyes are different than mine so you won’t regret later. If you notice, there is always default setting for LCD TV on most game menu rather than plasma. M$ & SONY also would prefer LCD while make their game/console presentation.

Sharp is better known on it LCD. Aquos is their LCD HDTV brand. If you are buying for reliability & durability it was a good deal. However, I’m not saying Aquos will have best display. I have Sharp Aquos 46” Full HD with 10 000 contrast ratio & Toshiba REGZA 32” HD Ready with 10 000 contrast ratio. All I can say is my Toshiba REGZA always had better & brighter display than my Sharp Aquos. Since my Aquos is Full HD, I’m still using it for gaming. Toshiba REGZA is also using Korean/Seremban made LCD panel.
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Errrr....

I'm trying hard to decipher what you're talking about or if you even know what you are trying to say.... rclxub.gif
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post Jun 18 2009, 03:13 PM

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I was relating to amduser's claim that LCD is better for movie, plasma better for gaming. He didn't state about any particular model at all. So if in general, I'm just saying he hasn't seen a Pioneer Kuro in action for movies.

If you really want to compare the best of the best, I'd just pull out a Sony Pearl XBR projector. That'd own everything, nuff' said.

What you said on the other hand... has no relation to what I was saying.

And yes, Sharp Aquos is assembled in Malaysia.
Their panels, their internal circuitary, design, all done in Malaysia. The only thing it has in Japan is the R&D team.

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post Jun 18 2009, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(FoxAss @ Jun 18 2009, 03:13 PM)
bro i think you've reversed amduser's claim. he said LCD better for gaming and Plasma better for movies
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I didn't man;

QUOTE(amduser @ Jun 18 2009, 12:08 AM)
no, LCD good for HD movie, especially blu ray and also HD gaming

plasma good for astro and normal TV
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QUOTE(gundamalpha @ Jun 18 2009, 03:19 PM)
No point arguing with people obsessed with LCD SSJBen tongue.gif
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lulz...

We should all wait for OLED to go big and go full-scale as well as being cheap.
That would end the discussion to all panel technologies. laugh.gif


QUOTE(x_barrage @ Jun 18 2009, 03:21 PM)
I’m not arguing. I just want to keep digging since he/she look knowledgeable.
That's an HDTV or projector? Does projector is same as HDTV? My hunger for knowledge still does not enough. Sorry to bother you.

Yes. Aquos manufactured in Malaysia. So they use their own LCD panel technology, which is R&D in Japan. Is it?
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No problem.

It's a projector, one of the very best around.
Sharp manufactures their own panel and also distribute it to many others.

In the US, some of the popularly known third-parties like Westinghouse (sort of like our own brand called GC here, no comparison of course doh.gif ) uses Sharp panels. Their research and development team is based in Japan. It used to be Sharp back in the day manufactures their panels over there as well as in China. Rising costs moved them over to Malaysia. Their quality hasn't dropped a bit but instead got better.

Though there are higher-end models which uses hand-picked panels from the engineers themselves. Don't know if they are assembled in Malaysia or not, but most likely not.

Sometimes, it isn't only the panel which makes the deal. The internal circuits does alot as well, from correctly processing colors, to scaling, "useless" features, and what not.

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QUOTE(x_barrage @ Jun 18 2009, 03:38 PM)
No wonder Sharp usually put large at their Aquos advertisement; “Japan made LCD panel”. Do you believe Sharp advertisement saying their Aquos is no.1 LCD in Japan?

It’s hard to find 32” below nowadays. Does it related to their panel vendor or market? What do you think?

Final assembly for Toshiba REGZA is at Indonesia If not mistaken.
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Not worth creating a TV for a size smaller than 32" now a days. Research has shown that 32" is the sweet spot for people who sit within 5-7 feet from the TV, which is also what most Living Room sizes are. Not everyone has a living room the size of a courtyard ya' know.

IINM, creating smaller TVs is also much more expensive than to create within the sweet-spot sizes.
Theres the perfect example of the Sony Bravia 22-incher (forgot the model), priced over RM1k. For that price, you can pick up a 24" Full HD monitor which does even better than the TV at all aspects, movies or games.


QUOTE(amduser @ Jun 19 2009, 08:15 PM)
what i am saying is LCD TV good for both gaming and movies, while not perform well in normal TV like 8TV, RTM and NTV7 and also astro

but plasma perform better in normal TV channel and also astro

and i'm not comparing with some high end plasma TV, i'm generalize it...

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Plasma technology is based off CRT.
So yea, they do scale better on low-resolution sources.
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QUOTE(x_barrage @ Jun 30 2009, 01:50 AM)
I think this is not just about price. Like what I really mention before, it is also about compatibility. I’m myself have RM50 HDMI cable & it’s perfectly can display PS3 up to 1080p. However, I had choose 100% compatible PS3 1080p HDMI which display PS3 logo & picture diagram in front of the box & I bought it at game shop. No issue there. But to pick random HDMI cable without knowing PS3 compatibility, the expensive one should not be a problem.
How you make it display 1080p if your HDTV is not Full-HD? blink.gif
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Compatibility? lulz.
Read up friend. There has been reports of shoddy-made HDMI cables in the past few months. Nothin to do with compatibility.

As for his TV, it accepts 1080p signals then downscale it to it's TV native resolution.
Many TVs does that. Doesn't mean if it isn't a Full HD panel, it can't display 1080p.
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