Come come discuss anything and everything about the Lenovo Legion series gaming laptops.

If you have one, post your model and specs

Current models:

1) Y530 = 15.6" display (250/300 nits, 60hz / 300 nits, 144hz) + i5-8300H / i7-8750H + GTX 1050/1050ti/1060 + white backlit keyboard

2) Y730 = 15.6" & 17" display (300 nits, 60hz) + i7-8750H + GTX 1050ti + thunderbolt 3 + rgb backlit keyboard

Upcoming models:

1) Y540 = RTX 2060

2) Y740 = RTX 2060/2070 max q

Intro and reviews:

Y530
Short and straight to the point.


Long and comprehensive.


Other good reviews:


Y730



This post has been edited by xcves: Apr 17 2019, 11:34 PM

Legion Y530 user here.
Specs:
- 15.6" 144hz, 300nits IPS display 74% NTSC 100% sRGB.
- i5 8300H
- 8gb ram
- GTX 1060
- 256gb Samsung PM981 nvme ssd + 1tb hdd
- 2x2 wifi card

bought online, received on 4th March.
price 5300 before apply 15% student discount, 4500 after.

comments:
+ good build quality (plastic all around but doesn't feel cheap or flimsy)
+ good screen
+ thin bezel 15.6" laptop, 2.2kg
+ good keyboard typing experience
+ ports at the back, very clean and tidy experience when using it

- costly without 15% student discount
- meh battery life


happy user so far. still exploring and will update more.

This post has been edited by xcves: Mar 11 2019, 11:48 PM

RTX cards!
y540 = speculated april/may 2019
y740 = currently available. priced around 8k yikes







This post has been edited by xcves: Mar 11 2019, 11:45 PM

Was waiting for someone to create this thread...finally

Y740 15
Thermals: (no need repaste!)

Review:

Keyboar deck still a bit soft IMO. Layout also requires some time to get used to

Y740 17 review:
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-Legion...w.410791.0.html

This post has been edited by ZM Fong: Mar 12 2019, 03:20 PM

15% not bad

You can exploit this actually as long as someone has a student card

How to be applicable for that using the student card?

What's the steps to take to get the student discount.

talk to their online live chat at the website.

they will guide on how to proceed

Just cancel my legion Y730 order due to ridiculous shipment lead time.
Ordered on 18Feb, date of expect shipment keep changing and now the status is asking wait until May....

Probably a lot of backorders

They just inform due to serious shortage of part.
Din even contact me about the situation, just self update the lead time until I check the order.
Sigh, got to look for other model as my current laptop already have buyer.

Thinkpad - but wait that might not be good for you...Illgear is the other one

Will see if the cancellation is successful or not. Only decide.

They won't update you if you didn't ask them

This post has been edited by ZM Fong: Mar 15 2019, 03:26 PM

Yeah men...thats kind of suck
I made full payment during 18Feb and still get nothing till now when they advertise ship out in 2 weeks.

You wouldn't be charged , that one is pre-auth

My card was only charged when they shipped it out - FYI

It's actually deducted my credit on my card. But I think is still under pending transaction. Not often use card, so I'm not sure how's that difference. Instead of keep quite, I actually feel better if they try to offer me other model...

why y730 if i may ask..
besides thunderbolt 3 and rgb..

get y530 better.

cheaper, both same 1050ti.

build quality is decent also although plastic and not aluminium body like y730..

y530 has numeric keypads too.

for y530 vs y730, same specs except for cpu i5 vs i7. the difference is 1k.. if i5 good enough for your usage, i dont see the reason to pay 1k more for thunderbolt 3, rgb and metal body..

unless you really need the i7 cpu, then its only 200 more than the y530, only then its a considerable choice..

This post has been edited by xcves: Mar 15 2019, 04:22 PM

It's pre-auth . Basically they would hold it for 7 Days . After that they would release - and charge it later

Actually because of numberpad also, I do quite alot typing for work and a push left keyboard is not ideal for me. In this price range, the spec, design and cooling is almost perfect for my need.

Y730 / Y740 has better cooling even though the cooling solution looks the same (Y530 / Y540 also has good cooling)

Build material also different (if I were to choose, I'll definitely get Y730 TBH, if the price is OK and I have the budget)

But have to admit that Y730 / Y740 is a bit overpriced

i see. the good thing is y530 also has full sized keys and not a cramped layout like most gaming laptops.

for y530 vs y730, same specs except for cpu i5 vs i7. the difference is 1k..
if i5 good enough for your usage, i dont see the reason to pay 1k more for thunderbolt 3 (do you even plan to use egpu?), rgb and metal body..

unless you really need the i7 cpu, then its only 200 more than the y530, only then its a considerable choice imo.

If not mistaken Y740 starting price at 8k right.
I did search around retail before place order to Lenovo Website, not much ppl carry Y730

yeah i know it has better cooling.
but not to say u need that better cooling as if the y530 cant do its cooling job well in the first place..
(of course if u can get as much cooling as possible that will be the best)

well you get my point then, it all comes down to price.
if unlimited budget i also will choose y730.

Like I said, a bit overpriced (even compared with US prices)

Y530 / Y540 more budget friendly

That's why I said Y530 also has decent cooling (as long as you don't get a lemon heatsink like mine)

New Y740 no need repaste since they include a very good paste out of the box. Not sure about Y540

Yeah price is a big factor

Hi, anyone here with Y730 17inch?

Just put in an order for the Y740. It was the cheapest full 2080 I could get. Hopefully they ship it out soon.

It's a Max-Q 2080

Ahh the stupid website showed it as a standard version. Nvm, I'll see how it goes, if no good I'll get another.

all brands do the same, lack of/no mention of Max-Q

i have been using y740 for the pass few days especially playing aaa games. i dont know what lenovo is tweaking but the thermal/performance for this unit is simply fantastic no joke.

i got this unit during flash sale USD 1480x4.1=rm6000 + rm250tips for friend handling fee. lenovo malaysia is charging rm8k+ for this spec is simply crazy!!

spec i7-8750h, 16gb ram, 256gb pm981, rtx2060 6gb, 144hz gsync screen,thunderbolt as well nice(not many has tb3 within this price range)

among illegear onxy/selenite, slate15, alienware m15, asus scar II, msi ge63 in the end i picked y740 no regrets

you got it with flash sale in US. and you compare with rrp price in MYR. notwithstanding US definitely will be cheaper, etc..
so not really fair to compare in the first place..

if you use 15% student discount, its about 7.3k myr from original price of 8.6k.

anyway, looks like a good deal you got since you have a friend to help you buy it from US.
what about warranty, etc? is it international and any problems you can refer back to lenovo MY?

where you buy from? US? and you got the 17" model? as only that has 2080 max-q option..

i dont think MY has 2080 option.

and in lenovo page it does state it's Max-Q..

y740-15"
https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/legion...g/p/88GMY701059

Graphics
NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 2070 Max-Q 8 GB
NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 2060 6 GB

y740 17"
https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/legion...g/p/88GMY701062
Graphics
NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 2080 Max-Q 8 GB
NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 2070 Max-Q 8 GB
NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 2060 6 GB


This post has been edited by xcves: Mar 19 2019, 12:10 AM

15inch or 17inch?

i bought the 15inch model, regarding warranty i will contact lenovo malaysia later today to clarify the warranty issue

Hope you will not be disappointed after contacting Lenovo Malaysia. Previously they told me for Legion models no international warranty will be covered/honored in Malaysia.

Hi!
I'm planning to buy Lenovo y530 from Lenovo website & it stated that my laptop will be shipped within 4 weeks.
From your experiences, how many days actually you received you laptop?
tqvm

Yeah it's the 17" model.

I got it from the AU store. With a student discount. Without tax I think it cost me 3200 AUD.

Comes with 1tb HDD and a Samsung 512gb SSD, Windows 10 pro. So not too bad lah all in all. Can't find the same spec anywhere else for the price.

I'm only hoping that the cooling system is good enough to give some overclocking headroom.

1~2 weeks.

but when you are at customizing page and it says 4 weeks, then maybe yours is 4 weeks as they might be having shortages right now..
see the user buying y730 earlier.

This post has been edited by xcves: Mar 19 2019, 11:34 AM

ah i see.

are you based in AU right now?

or you'll be bringing it back to MY via friend/relative, etc..

Based in AU but I go back for holidays often.

So might as well claim tax.

Yes, I cancel mine due to very much delay.
Order at 18Feb, expecting ship out by end of April. The lead time will change without inform.
For Y530, better buy in store i think? Friend of mine bought in store last week, price not much different from website.



This post has been edited by hong3831: Mar 19 2019, 04:00 PM

think of getting another 8gb stick to make it 16gb running in dual-channel..

want to ask can i just get any notebook ddr4 8gb ram 2666mhz stick and it'll be alright?

the one im looking at is the kingston value ram 8gb as its the most widely available..

yes, if the original one is 2666MHz CL19

can get under rm190

This post has been edited by ZM Fong: Mar 20 2019, 01:35 PM

Which particular model?

Customize some spec lower price

good thermal paste, good cooling design, low noise as well

2 weeks+

He bought base spec, without customize. Lenovo site now state order will take 4 weeks to ship out.

model 81fv016umj?

under 190?
is it buy online?

i checkout lowyat shops pricelist all around 230..

Yes buy online, I bought 8GB 2666 from this shop. Very fast delivery, responsive chat:
https://shopee.com.my/ADATA-SODIMM-DDR4-Ram...4899.1829201508

other options:
https://shopee.com.my/ADATA-8GB-2666MHz-DDR...1469.1380911472
https://shopee.com.my/Patriot-8GB-DDR4-2666...4661.1956156966
https://shopee.com.my/AData-DDR4-SODIMM-266...4661.1717916263
(not really recommend EITstore even thought their prices are cheaper, so I just leave them out)

edit: under 180

I'm not too sure about that yet.

thanks for recommendations!!

just to check with you,
this one is alright right?
https://www.lazada.com.my/products/kingston...ugBsTR&search=1

i prefer to get Kingston brand.. and also the price almost similar with the ones you gave..

oh and also, is your stock 8gb ram from samsung too? i notice they are CL19 which is higher than other rams i seen when i was browsing lazada/shoppee.

then got other rams like kingston hyperx impact/fury, those are 2666mhz as well and cl15 or something like that. 8gb is only like 20 ringgit more than the value ram.
is it better to get those instead? or no difference? im not good about ram stuffs..

https://www.lazada.com.my/products/kingston...ugBsTR&search=1

This post has been edited by xcves: Mar 20 2019, 10:20 PM

That one is OK

Actually brand don't matter much...in fact most memory brands don't make their own RAM...Adata is good enough...my advice is just get the cheapest for laptop RAM

Yes the stock one is Samsung, standard spec - 2666MHz CL19

Better match the same spec for better compatibility

It really depends on your plans, but buying higher speed memory is good in the case you want to undervolt or unclock the processor and memory subsystems.

Usually such memory is extremely well binned, meaning they while they have great overclock potential, you can get away with undervolting them while still retaining reliability. But I'd have to say, you'd probably only shave power consumption by 4 to 5 watts max on 16gb x2 modules, which isn't much.

Got the 8gb kingston ram cause i bought together with a keyboard from same shop..

Satisfied! Ordered on Thursday morning and item arrived next day Friday evening..

Now running 16gb dual-channel

What keyboard model you bought?

ah just a wireless keyboard.
https://www.logitech.com/en-my/product/wire...rd-k270?crid=27

needed a keyboard to game with, especially for dota2.
the laptop keyboard is great for typing.

but for dota2 its terrible because i use a lot of F1 to F10 keys, and 1-6 number and also the numpad.
and the spacing isnt quite right compared to a keyboard so i always mispressed wrong keys..

not sure about other games, have yet to test.

I use a Alcatroz usb keyboard for gaming too but the keyboard keycap inscription fading off. Damm pissoff especially when I need to type complicated passwords.

on another note, dual-channel ram solved my problem i guess.

initially was having occasional stutters and massive fps drops in teamfights and big spells being used when playing dota2 in max settings..

now after adding the other 8gb stick, seems to have solved it. not sure if its due to dual-channel or just more ram in general. but i thought 8gb would suffice for dota2, no other apps were open and only 2-3 chrome tabs..

anyway before this, my fps in main menu was about 180 ish, now its 220~230.

and in games it used to be:
- when just loaded and entered a match: around 120 fps and then drops off to about 90~100 fps once the creeps come out.

- then during laning stage last hit denies fps about 70~90.
- during big teamfights and many aoe spells used, it can drop to about 40+ fps and makes it laggish.

now when loaded and enter a match i get around 160 fps. when creeps come out about 140~150 fps.
and laning stage is about 120 fps, teamfights still able to maintain 100+ fps..
but i only tested it on 1 match so far with the upgraded ram.

will have to play more games to find out the real average fps improvements.. but overall right now im happy with such a huge improvement with the ram upgrade. before this i was quite upset that the i5 + 1060 card was stuttering on dota2.. was wondering like whats wrong with my system even..

Yeah dual channel RAM makes a difference especially with CFL-H CPUs. Dunno why. Great upgrade though! I also added another 8GB to my Y530

Got my machine yesterday and am now putting it though it’s paces. Might redo the thermal paste anyways for better OCing

Looks great!

Nice. Whats your impressions on it so far?
Build quality, etc etc.

Screen = Bezel really thick. A lot of light bleed. Definitely didn't like it.
Keyboard = It has pretty lights which I find stupid. I would have rather them taken the keyboard from the Thinkpad X/T line (legendary keyboards on those!)
Audio = Pretty good for a laptop, also has a subwoofer which makes the audio acceptable.
Build Quality = Good all around, except the screen hinges, flimsy.
Thermal Management = Extremely good. Even with OCing, 72 degrees Celsius tops!
Add ons = Not much bloatware which is very good. If you want it you have to DL yourself
Ports = I like the back facing ports, makes cable management easy
Misc = Didn't like the 2.5 inch drive bay, would have rather used the space for extra cooling or batt power and another M2 slot

Can show a screenshot of the bleeding? And how or what tool you use to test for bleeding?

No nid use tool one. Boot up screen oredi damned obvious.

for the screen, turn off adaptive brightness mode in windows10 if you havent already.
but thats mainly for brightness and colour fluctuations in windows.
but it still helps with lightbleed i think. cause my first few days using it with adaptive brightness, when i do light bleed test on pure black background i was getting quite a lot of light bleed and its obvious like you said..
however after turning adaptive brightness off, the light bleed is no longer obvious and fell back to acceptable range..
my guess is because pure black background and adaptive brightness mode turned on, so the computer detects it as such and overcompensates by pumping in more backlight




and yes for the bloatware i agree. the only bloatware i got in my y530 was the mcafee AV.
windows 10 itself makes up the majority of the bloatware. so good job on lenovo for that.

This post has been edited by xcves: Mar 26 2019, 06:36 PM

Is it worth to spend extra few k for Y740 instead of Y540?
RGB is not my thing, and I hardly play games now, and for sure I won't OC my machine.
The reason I am considering this machine is because I need to do some heavy development and I run a lot of programs at the same time.
Or is there any alternative? I'm also looking into Thinkpad T-series and P-series, but unfortunately they don't have a powerful GPU.

This post has been edited by rockccf: Mar 26 2019, 06:01 PM

we dont know the price of y540 yet..

unless you mistaken for y730 and y7530.

well the attraction of y730 over the y530 is:
- built material (aluminium body)
- better thermal cooling performance (but y530 is also decent)
- RGB
- thunderbolt 3.

see whether you need i5 or i7 processor.

since you say youre doing heavy development i would think the i7 is more suitable for you right?
and since gaming is a non-factor, they both come with 1050ti anyway.


if youre going for i7 + 1050ti, the y730 cost only about 300 more over the y530. in that case then i would say it depends on you whether the above i mentioned is enough to justify that difference.

if youre going for i5 + 1050ti, the y730 cost about 1k more than the y530. in that case i would say save the 1k and get the y530..

but take note, on lenovo site it says now y530 shipping period is 6-8 weeks and y730 4 weeks.

This post has been edited by xcves: Mar 26 2019, 06:30 PM

Thanks for the reply.
I am speculating the price difference to be in 2k MYR at least.
Here what's taken from lowyat.net article.
"
Prices for the Lenovo Legion Y540 starts from US$929.99 (~RM3827). The company says it will be available starting May 2019, though chances are that we’ll have to wait a little longer before it’s made available in Malaysia.

The Lenovo Legion Y740 models, on the other hand, will be made available a little bit earlier, from February 2019. Prices for the 15.6-inch model starts from US$1749.99 (~RM7194), while the larger 17.3-inch laptop will have prices starting from US$1979.99 (~RM8140). But again, these are not the dates and prices for our market, and we’ll have to wait for an official announcement by Lenovo Malaysia.
"

- built material (aluminium body) - Might have to look at the real laptop to tell the difference, but it's not a big deal for me I guess.
- better thermal cooling performance (but y530 is also decent) - since y530/540 is quite decent, so this does not really matter to me as I don't OC my machine.
- RGB - not my thing
- thunderbolt 3. - I doubt I will ever use it, even if I do, very rare occasion I guess.

Oh BTW, graphic card matters to me because I'm into machine learning that's why I am looking for a laptop with a decent GPU.
So I guess, Y540 seems like a better choice for me, if the price difference is 2K MYR.

This post has been edited by rockccf: Mar 26 2019, 06:43 PM

haha dont see the lowyat article anymore. the pricing is quite impossible. so the article is not accurate.

the y740 on lenovo website right now is RM8.6k for the 15" model and RM8.9k for the 17".
i speculate the price of y540 to be high 5k to mid 6k range. so expect the pricing to be around 5800 to 6500.

and it is not out yet worldwide. its coming in May.

so idk what price difference youre talking about anymore.. are you talking about the y530/y730 or y540/y740 ?

y540/740, just a speculation bro.
so based on your speculation, around 5800 to 6500 for y540, so yeah it's basically 2k difference compared to y740.

ok i see. so means you're not getting it now..

then its all just speculations only right now..

the y540 could even go higher than 6500. wait till May/June to find out the price.

but yes for your usage, y540 is more than enough then..

i dont think the y740 is worth 2k more than the y540.

even at 1k difference between y730 and y530 also i dont think its worth it.

This post has been edited by xcves: Mar 26 2019, 08:04 PM

What's the GPU that you are looking at ?

No specific model.
But since now it's era of RTX, rtx is a good choice.
For nvidia GTX 10 series, minimum 1060/70 i think?

Yeah, not going to get it now, let's wait and see.
Mostly going for Y540, unless Y740 does not really cost much more compared to Y540 which I doubt so.

I don't see the issue. I am okay with my 1050 Ti , sure it's not the best at least it can handle things when I throw at it

but you are essentially waiting and paying for more due to rtx card for the y540. its gonna be one expensive machine..

are you sure the 1050ti or 1060/1070 right now is not good enough for your tasks that you absolutely need the rtx2060?

Owner of Y530, no complain here. Only the bleeding issue and screen suddenly went very dark. Called their support and they immediately replaced the screen the next business day. Added 8GB stick and NVME SSD. Mine is a i5 configuration, I dont really need that much processing power

I've checked my laptop and the Y740 is definitely running on the 80 watt variant of the GTX2080 Max-Q.

Now looking for a 90W VBIOS with the same device ID and rev to flash to the GC.

definitely worth a try but flash at your own risk

I can find the 150 watt RTX2080 Mobile VBIOS from Clevo, can't seem to find the 90 watt Max-Q version.

The big issue isn't the thermal limit, which is 87 celsius, and the Y740 is far away from that, but the Power limit wall that keeps getting hit.

So there's tons more headroom even for a 100 watt card plus the VRMs seem beefy enough.

ok so got my hands into undervolting cpu.

I was able to undervolt to -160mv for cpu core/cache, but it was unstable.
then tried further -150mv for cpu core/cache, much better but had 1 bsod after few hours of playing dota2.

so finally settled for -140mv for cpu core/cache and -50mv for the igpu.

Before undervolt, i was getting thermal throttling occasionally when gaming, the max temps hit 90+ degree C. average temps were in the mid 80s.
After undervolt, no more thermal throttling and max temps when gaming low to mid 80s. average temp was low to mid 70s as well.
all with max fan speed.

so about 10~15 degree C cooler with the undervolt. all done with throttlestop.
the max temps gpu hit is 70 degree C and averages around the 60 range when gaming extensively.
haven't gotten my hands into gpu tuning. do i need to since the max temps is only 70 degree?

oh and another thing, for Speed Shift EPP, i set 128 on battery profile, and 40 for AC profile.
I tried setting it to 1, but the performance gains was negligible but it raised temps up quite a bit.
So i settled for 40 as it was in my TPL min/max range by default 1~40 in throttlestop. no idea why it says 1~40 min/max when it supposedly can change values from 0~255.

This post has been edited by xcves: Apr 1 2019, 01:32 AM

anyway the stock dual band wifi card isn't that good.
realtek 8822be..

download speeds was fine, i was able to achieve my max dl speeds for 100mbps line.

where my problem is though, is random disconnects. the kind where your wifi network is still connected but it says "no internet connection".
this could be solve simply by reconnecting to the wifi network..

and its frequency is quite random, can go for days without a problem, sometimes 2~3 hours after using then problem occur.

another one is during gaming, i get massive ping spikes playing dota2, ping gets very very unstable and unplayable. again, occurrence is random. sometimes good sometimes bad.

at first i thought its to do with my stock d-link router from Time.
but after googling on lenovo forums, theres a lot of complaints regarding the realtek 8822be wifi card as well. many users suffer the same problem.

so for now, when at home im connected to LAN already.
for the wifi, i will continue to monitor when outside of home use whether the wifi is at least usable or if its unbearable then i might consider changing to intel 9560 card.

tbh -125mv is already enough

did you encounter noticable uneven core temps?

undervolt GPU too, free performance/thermal boost

I have no such issue with 8822BE

Anyway, can change to Intel 9560 if you want since it's officially supported

what do you mean by this? uneven as in how big the range are from each other?

in hwinfo theres a section with 8 temps right? the first 4 is the cores?

realtek wifi card hit and miss i guess.

a lot ppl seems to have problem with it in lenovo forums.

not specific to y530 only as well.

but compared to them, mine not as severe.
i read others problems are like frequent disconnects and massive ping spike even for web browsing.

This post has been edited by xcves: Apr 1 2019, 05:03 PM

yes, temp difference between the hottest and coolest core

if you have 8300H, the thread #0 in HWinfo is the 'real' core

ok so i tested with 2 sessions of dota. each session about 3 hours then i reset the values.

for max temps, the diff between core #0 and #3 is about 6~8 degree, i think max i saw was 10 degree diff between core 0 and core 3.

but for average and current temps all 4 cores are about +- 2~4 degrees from each other..

This post has been edited by xcves: Apr 3 2019, 02:02 AM