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post Jun 13 2018, 07:20 PM, updated 8y ago

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Hi, looking to buy a 4k tv mainly to play ps4 pro and watch some videos (non-4k) with budget RM3k. Currently looking at:

Sony
KD55x7000e ~RM2.6k
KD49x8000e ~RM3k

Samsung
UA55MU6100 ~RM2.7k
UA50NU7400 ~RM3k

LG
55UJ630t ~RM2.4k
49SJ800t ~RM3k

Which one should I go for? Also is it worth going for wcg ie 49SJ800t/KD49x8000e/UA50NU7400 but with smaller screen size? Is it worth to get smaller screen size + wcg for the PQ difference?

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I would go for samsung, mainly because of the brand
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post Jun 13 2018, 09:50 PM

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Select the size at least 55 inch or above to see their beauties.
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post Jun 13 2018, 11:51 PM

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QUOTE(Harold2009 @ Jun 13 2018, 09:50 PM)
Select the size at least 55 inch or above to see their beauties.
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Thats what I keep hearing as well sweat.gif That's why not sure if I should go for 49+wcg or 55 or just top up abit get 55+wcg drool.gif
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post Jun 14 2018, 01:54 AM

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QUOTE(berrycoo~ @ Jun 13 2018, 07:20 PM)
Hi, looking to buy a 4k tv mainly to play ps4 pro and watch some videos (non-4k) with budget RM3k. Currently looking at:

Sony
KD55x7000e ~RM2.6k
KD49x8000e ~RM3k

Samsung
UA55MU6100 ~RM2.7k
UA50NU7400 ~RM3k

LG
55UJ630t ~RM2.4k
49SJ800t ~RM3k

Which one should I go for? Also is it worth going for wcg ie 49SJ800t/KD49x8000e/UA50NU7400 but with smaller screen size? Is it worth to get smaller screen size + wcg for the PQ difference?
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X7000e : the most basic UHD TV entry from Sony last year , second cheapest among your list , steady brightness , NO WCG (expected from this price range ) , No Local dimming ( again , expected from this price range ) , good motion handling , MI / BFI options to play judder-free 24p content , great sport programs supports , doesn't support WiFi 5G , the 55 " version is a VA panel which I would recommend if you can find one cheaper .

XF70 / X7000F : The successor of XE70 . I find this TV slightly brighter than XE70, might be due to panel variance . Other than that , not much has changed from its 2017 predecessor.

XF75 / X7500F : In a nut shell , a repackage of the XF70 model in Android TV OS .

x8000e : Lotsa fanbois singing praises of model this in Lowyat , to the point comparing it with OLED , truly the joke of the decade. One of them attacked me with a death threat before . It's scary when people paid a large sum of money for something mediocre yet want to feel justified for the high expenses.

Back to the TV , this is actually a decent SDR TV just not for the price it is asking . It used to be much more pricey.

Being a mid range TV, the brightness of model is very limited , which hampered its ability to display any decent HDR .
There is also the inherent flaw of unimpressive contrast level being an IPS model . It does has a Wider-Color-Gamut compare to the basic 4k models , mediocre motion handling ( worse than XE70 in fact) . Input lag is a little on the high side as well , which means it is not very suitable for gaming purposes .


Samsung : Their lower end TVs has been getting worse by each year , from the all amazing KU series to the not so impressive MU series , this year's NU series is a hit or miss

MU6100 : The MU 6 series have amazing contrast ratings , despite of not having a local dimming system . No support of WCG , No local dimming ( it relies on Samsung's CE dimming ) , great BFI (if you can withstand the screen dimming ). This is the most complete 4k entry level VA TV ( features wise ) in 2017 . This TV model has been discontinued .

NU7100 : The successor of MU6100 , more or less the " castrated " version. Picture Quality should remain in the same levels as MU 6 series while some of the features such as WIFI 5Ghz , blue tooth , smart remote control & voice control are removed .

Nu7400 : Suppose to be the true successor to MU 6 series with Wider Color Gamut , also has a steam link support . It is essentially a NU7100 but has all the trivial features from MU 6 series . Slightly more expensive than the former two.



LG : LG's Mid ~ lower end models love to use RGBW panel , buy at your own risk

UJ630 T = The cheapest TV among the bunch . This TV uses RGBW panel , which really hurts its color volume especially when showing Brighter NON-white colors , if you decide to use your TV as monitor one day , colorful fonts are going to look weird. If you can look past this , it isn't very different than the Sony x7000e .

SJ800T = The supreme UHD LED TV from LG , of IPS panel . This is probably the best TV among your list , it has all the features required to display HDR . While it still can't really compete with higher end models, this is the most comprehensive IPS TV you can buy @ around 3k





As for screen size , Amazon recommends the distance from your 4K TV to be around 1.5x the size of TV screen . EG : for a 55 inches TV , the distance between you and your TV should be @ 55 inches - 75 inches . Although the whole point of getting UHD TV is , you can sit closer to the screen to witness the awesomeness of all the 4K pixels

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QUOTE(berrycoo~ @ Jun 13 2018, 11:51 PM)
Thats what I keep hearing as well sweat.gif That's why not sure if I should go for 49+wcg or 55 or just top up abit get 55+wcg drool.gif
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WCG plays an important role when you are playing HDR content , which you will be since you mentioned PS4 pro
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Any list but not the Samsung.
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post Jun 14 2018, 09:09 AM

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Pana 49EX600K ....2.4K..?
Sony KD49X7500F...2.8K..?


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QUOTE(Convael @ Jun 14 2018, 01:54 AM)
X7000e : the most basic UHD TV entry from Sony last year , second cheapest among your list , NO WCG , No Local dimming , Good motion handling , can play 24p content, great sport programs support , doesn't support WIFI 5G , the 55 inches version is a VA panel which I would recommend if you can find one cheaper .

x8000e : There have been quite some ppl singing praises about this particular model in Lowyat ( I don't get it ) to the point comparing it with OLED ( Joke of the decade )
One of them attacked me with a death threat before . It's scary when people paid a large sum of money for something mediocre yet want to feel justified for the high expenses.
Back to the TV , this is actually a decent TV , just not for its price . It used to be much more expensive.  Despite being a middle level TV, the brightness of model is very meh , not to mention it has no local dimming which hampered its ability to display any decent HDR , below average contrast level even when comparing with the IPS standards . It has WCG , meh motion handling ( worse than X7000E in fact) , slightly better upscaling processor (like all Sony TVs ). Input lag is a little on the high side as well . If you can find it below 3k it isn't a bad choice , I guess
Samsung : Their lower end TV has been getting worse by each year , from the all amazing KU series to the not so impressive MU series , this year's NU series is a hit or miss

MU6100 : The best all around-TV for its value . The mu 6 series have very amazing contrast level , despite having no local dimming of any sorts .  No WCG , No local dimming ( using Samsung's CE dimming ) , great BFI support

Nu7400 : Suppose to be the successor to mu 6 series with wide color gamut support , it also has steam link if you use steam . I have seen this TV from the store  , it looks to be identical with 6300 with similar brightness ( which is decent )
LG : LG's Mid ~ lower end models love to use RGBW panel , buy at your own risk

UJ630 T =  The cheapest TV among the bunch .  This TV uses RGBW panel , which really hurts its color volume especially when showing Brighter NON-white colors  ,  if you decide to use your TV as monitor one day , colorful fonts are going to look weird.  If you can look past this , it isn't very much different than the Sony x7000e .

SJ800T = The supreme UHD LED TV from LG , of IPS panel . This is probably the best TV among your list , it has all the features required to display HDR  . While it still can't really compete with higher End models, this is the most comprehensive IPS TV you can buy @ around 3k
All the models you mentioned have very good input latency for gaming except the x8000e . Sorry Sony , I still love you very much , just not your low - mid range TVs
As for screen size , Amazon recommends the distance from your 4K TV to be around 1.5x  the size of TV screen  . EG : for a 55 inches TV , the distance between you and your TV should be @ 55 inches - 75 inches .  Although the whole point of getting UHD TV is , you can sit closer to the screen to witness the awesomeness of all the 4K pixels
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Thanks for the comprehensive explanation on the pros and cons of each tv. I guess I can narrow down my choice to the 55x7000e, ua55nu7400 or 49sj800t? My main concern about the Samsung is their color. It always look abit washed out/pale when compared beside other TV like Sony. Not sure is it me but I have same experience with their VA monitors. But their price is the most attractive 55 with wcg at <3k
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QUOTE(stasio @ Jun 14 2018, 09:09 AM)
Pana 49EX600K ....2.4K..?
Sony KD49X7500F...2.8K..?
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Panasonic always sounds expensive. But you have any recommendation? The Sony X7500F is quite expensive just for their Android TV. Not so worth to me
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QUOTE(Convael @ Jun 14 2018, 01:54 AM)
X7000e : the most basic UHD TV entry from Sony last year , second cheapest among your list , NO WCG , No Local dimming , Good motion handling , can play 24p content, great sport programs support , doesn't support WIFI 5G , the 55 inches version is a VA panel which I would recommend if you can find one cheaper .

x8000e : There have been quite some ppl singing praises about this particular model in Lowyat ( I don't get it ) to the point comparing it with OLED ( Joke of the decade )
One of them attacked me with a death threat before . It's scary when people paid a large sum of money for something mediocre yet want to feel justified for the high expenses.
Back to the TV , this is actually a decent TV , just not for its price . It used to be much more expensive.  Despite being a middle level TV, the brightness of model is very meh , not to mention it has no local dimming which hampered its ability to display any decent HDR , below average contrast level even when comparing with the IPS standards . It has WCG , meh motion handling ( worse than X7000E in fact) , slightly better upscaling processor (like all Sony TVs ). Input lag is a little on the high side as well . If you can find it below 3k it isn't a bad choice , I guess
Samsung : Their lower end TV has been getting worse by each year , from the all amazing KU series to the not so impressive MU series , this year's NU series is a hit or miss

MU6100 : The best all around-TV for its value . The mu 6 series have very amazing contrast level , despite having no local dimming of any sorts .  No WCG , No local dimming ( using Samsung's CE dimming ) , great BFI support

Nu7400 : Suppose to be the successor to mu 6 series with wide color gamut support , it also has steam link if you use steam . I have seen this TV from the store  , it looks to be identical with 6300 with similar brightness ( which is decent )
LG : LG's Mid ~ lower end models love to use RGBW panel , buy at your own risk

UJ630 T =  The cheapest TV among the bunch .  This TV uses RGBW panel , which really hurts its color volume especially when showing Brighter NON-white colors  ,  if you decide to use your TV as monitor one day , colorful fonts are going to look weird.  If you can look past this , it isn't very much different than the Sony x7000e .

SJ800T = The supreme UHD LED TV from LG , of IPS panel . This is probably the best TV among your list , it has all the features required to display HDR  . While it still can't really compete with higher End models, this is the most comprehensive IPS TV you can buy @ around 3k
All the models you mentioned have very good input latency for gaming except the x8000e . Sorry Sony , I still love you very much , just not your low - mid range TVs
As for screen size , Amazon recommends the distance from your 4K TV to be around 1.5x  the size of TV screen  . EG : for a 55 inches TV , the distance between you and your TV should be @ 55 inches - 75 inches .  Although the whole point of getting UHD TV is , you can sit closer to the screen to witness the awesomeness of all the 4K pixels
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Very detailed info.
What is your opinion on Sharp LC50UA6800X?
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Just now went to take a look at the TVs mentioned above. Cant really compare them as they are either not side by side or not displaying same content.

But I managed to compare Sony ones as they have all 3 X70E, X75F and X80E side by side. In general I realised bigger size TV will have brighter (or washed out not sure how to describe it) image no matter the model. Can anyone explain why is that so? Also The X7500F have better color than the X7000E. Is it really the same but with incremental update? Looks like have different panel altogether

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i am asking out of topic question ,

how long can a standard LED sony tv can last longer ?? mine is about 3 years old , planning to change soon .
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QUOTE(berrycoo~ @ Jun 14 2018, 01:39 PM)
Just now went to take a look at the TVs mentioned above. Cant really compare them as they are either not side by side or not displaying same content.

But I managed to compare Sony ones as they have all 3 X70E, X75F and X80E side by side. In general I realised bigger size TV will have brighter (or washed out not sure how to describe it) image no matter the model. Can anyone explain why is that so? Also The X7500F have better color than the X7000E. Is it really the same but with incremental update? Looks like have different panel altogether
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Are they playing the same display Demo ?
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QUOTE(Convael @ Jun 14 2018, 02:32 PM)
Are they playing the same display Demo ?
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Yea. The wildlife one
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QUOTE(muss90 @ Jun 14 2018, 01:23 PM)
Very detailed info.
What is your opinion on Sharp LC50UA6800X?
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I have spent really long time looking at this Sharp Model and its little brother 6500 awhile ago .
Managed to find a not so crowded shop and spent at least 2 hours checking out them out before the salesman shoo me away

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Both TV seems to be brighter than its predecessor UE630x
Between the two , the 6800 looks to be more " consistent " on the HDR highlights , with the highlight zones on Sun fading at slightly slower pace than the 6500x


I can probably take a guess at the peak luminance . The zones of sun highlight details from the menu of Horizon Zero has to be reaching the peak brightness yet it wasn't quite nearly as bright as my B7. This suggest a 500 ~ cd/m2 peak brightness , it was definitely brighter than the mu6300 (peak @ 360 cd/m2 ~) which was displaying just few feet away.

Took a peek behind the screen , no cable management or anything of sorts , the TV build feels a little cheap .


I saw a lot of motion blurs and trails when the cutscene transition into fast pace action scene , perhaps much more severe than most other TV I've came across ( namely LG , Samsung and Sony ) , so this is probably not the best TVs for sports.

In terms of colors I actually wasn't able to notice much of a difference , maybe because they were looping Horizon Zero in HD (1080P) . But the WCG is clearly present in the 6800x as I noticed the sun is slightly more orange than the one from 6500x , but overall their HDR performance and PQ should be very identical. Still If you insist on getting the these models , get the 6800 version over 6500 , as the price gap aren't too large .


Remember these are merely opinions and with no professional tools involved , human perception can be very flawed afterall , so take these opinions as a grain of salt

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QUOTE(berrycoo~ @ Jun 14 2018, 01:39 PM)
Just now went to take a look at the TVs mentioned above. Cant really compare them as they are either not side by side or not displaying same content.

But I managed to compare Sony ones as they have all 3 X70E, X75F and X80E side by side. In general I realised bigger size TV will have brighter (or washed out not sure how to describe it) image no matter the model. Can anyone explain why is that so? Also The X7500F have better color than the X7000E. Is it really the same but with incremental update? Looks like have different panel altogether
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If I remember correctly , someone mentioned that specific models of x7000E were stuck with the 8 bit color depth before , while all models of x7500F has been updated to 10 bits color depth ( 8bit + FRC ) .


The shop lighting condition will also have an impact on the screen . It is known that TV sellers tend to play with the TV settings , so a lot of the TV in the shop look oversaturated and far brighter than its native settings in order to attract customers .


When you brought the TV home and turn it on , just to find out it looks almost like an entirely different model than what you've seen in the shop .

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QUOTE(Convael @ Jun 14 2018, 07:39 PM)
If I remember correctly , someone mentioned that specific models of x7000E were stuck with the 8 bit color depth before , while all models of x7500F has been updated to 10 bits color depth ( 8bit + FRC ) .
The shop lighting condition will also have an impact on the screen . It is known that TV sellers tend to play with the TV settings , so a lot of the TV in the shop look oversaturated and far brighter than its native settings in order to attract customers .
When you brought the TV home and turn it on , just to find out it looks almost like an entirely different model than what you've seen in the shop .
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Ah now that makes sense. And the content they play too sweat.gif

Anyways my living room max sitting distance is about 3m. So I am still thinking 49" is abit too small. Should I go for 55" (x7500f/nu7400) or go for 49" LG SUHD for nano cell and sit nearer to the TV? Which configuration is better? My living room is well lit so contrast isn't that important.
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QUOTE(berrycoo~ @ Jun 14 2018, 08:10 PM)
Ah now that makes sense. And the content they play too sweat.gif

Anyways my living room max sitting distance is about 3m. So I am still thinking 49" is abit too small. Should I go for 55" (x7500f/nu7400) or go for 49" LG SUHD for nano cell and sit nearer to the TV? Which configuration is better? My living room is well lit so contrast isn't that important.
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At that distance , I would suggest you get the LG SUHD IPS Panel since contrast isn't a big issue for you . 49 inches is a little too small for 3 meters viewing distance , the whole point of getting a 4K TV is to sit closer to the screen than traditional TV ( but not too close ) , if you can move it to somewhere around 2 meters that will be perfect .

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At that distance , I would suggest you get the LG SUHD IPS Panel since contrast isn't a big issue for you  . 49 inches is a little too small for 3 meters viewing distance , the whole point of getting a 4K TV is to sit closer to the screen than traditional TV ( but not too close ) , if you can move it to somewhere around 2 meter that will be perfect .
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Wow 2metres is too close thats 6.5 feet. I sit exactly 13 ft or 4m with a 55inch tv and feels it is big. console.gif
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QUOTE(Convael @ Jun 14 2018, 08:20 PM)
At that distance , I would suggest you get the LG SUHD IPS Panel since contrast isn't a big issue for you  . 49 inches is a little too small for 3 meters viewing distance , the whole point of getting a 4K TV is to sit closer to the screen than traditional TV ( but not too close ) , if you can move it to somewhere around 2 meter that will be perfect .
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Is the color of nano cell really much better than triluminous/wcg display? I didn't get the chance to compare LG SUHD and Sony triluminous side by side. Need more input from sifus here flex.gif

Also is the new SK8000 series better than the SJ800?

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QUOTE(berrycoo~ @ Jun 14 2018, 09:39 PM)
Is the color of nano cell really much better than triluminous/wcg display? I didn't get the chance to compare LG SUHD and Sony triluminous side by side. Need more input from sifus here flex.gif
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In all honesty , every year the TV makers tend to come out with all sort of fancy words for the technology . The Nano Cell is basically a variation of the Quantum Dot technology found in the Samsung QLED display . But at the end of the day , what we really care about are the results , a.k.a the numbers measured by the Pro. We look at the numbers , the coverage of color and the color volume , instead of the fancy terms.


From what I can see , Nano Cell isn't nearly as good as LG claimed . As the standards set by UHD Alliance , A TV with WCG needs to be able to show at least 90% of the P3 color gamut , a TV carrying the Nano Cell tag should be exceeding this value , but they are still quite behind comparing with the more expensive TVs. The new Samsung QLED are able to display almost 100% of the P3 colors coverage with the OLED TVs following closely behind.



And no , in this case my suggestion isn't base on the specification itself , but because of the Panel itself . Since you play your TV in the living room , you would have benefit to have a wider viewing angle , such as the occasion of having guests in the house , or you wish to lay on the couch at the left corner for some casual game time. On top of that the LG SUHD models having some pretty good ANTI Reflection display which can , to a certain degree fight off the reflection in a bright room.


VA panel is more suitable for private room , like bed room or your personal gaming room , where it is darker and the picture quality will receive a greater boost displaying blacker black.

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QUOTE(Convael @ Jun 14 2018, 10:56 PM)
In all honesty , every year the TV makers tend to come out with all sort of fancy words for the technology . The Nano Cell is basically a variation of the Quantum Dot technology found in the Samsung QLED display .  But at the end of the day , what we really care about are the results , a.k.a the numbers measured by the Pro. We look at the numbers , the coverage of color and the color volume , instead of the fancy terms.
From what I can see , Nano Cell isn't nearly as good as LG claimed . As the standards set by UHD Alliance , A TV with WCG needs to be able to show at least 90% of the P3 color gamut  , a TV carrying the Nano Cell tag should be exceeding this value , but they are still quite behind comparing with the more expensive TVs. The new Samsung QLED are able to display almost 100% of the P3 colors with the OLED TVs following closely behind
And no , in this case my suggestion isn't base on the specification itself , but because of the Panel itself . Since you play your TV in the living room , you would have benefit to have a wider viewing angle , such as the occasion of having guests in the house , or you wish to lay on the couch at the left corner for some casual game time.  On top of that the LG SUHD models having some pretty good ANTI Reflection display which can , to a certain degree fight off the glare in a bright room.
VA panel is more suitable for private room , like bed room or your personal gaming room , where it is darker and the picture quality will receive a greater boost displaying blacker black.
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Hmm, for my case I don't really need the viewing angle because mainly will be using this alone. Yea I do need anti reflection as there is sunlight from the side. Another main factor for me is the picture quality, or color reproduction tbe. Like I am not sure why Samsung's color is always abit cool (or washed out/pale). Is it because of a setting problem?

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What is your take? Sony. Lg. Sammy?
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QUOTE(Ree73 @ Jun 15 2018, 12:08 AM)
What is your take? Sony. Lg. Sammy?
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Not sure yet. Still very undecided sad.gif The new LG SK8000 series sounds promising with image processor from their previous OLED tv hmm.gif

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QUOTE(enkil @ Jun 14 2018, 08:50 PM)
Wow 2metres is too close thats 6.5  feet. I sit exactly 13 ft or 4m with a 55inch tv and feels it is big.  console.gif
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If you sit too far from the screen , then the upgrade to UHD TV isn't going to worth it

However , everyone has a preference . If you like what you are seeing , no one has the rights to say you're wrong.
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QUOTE(Convael @ Jun 15 2018, 12:38 AM)
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If you sit too far from the screen , then the upgrade to UHD TV isn't going to worth it

However , everyone has a preference  . If you like what you are seeing , no one has the rights to say you're wrong.
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Thanks for sharing.. i will try to adjust the distance to find the best seating for me icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(berrycoo~ @ Jun 14 2018, 09:39 PM)
Also is the new SK8000 series better than the SJ800?
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Their performance are in the same ballpark , but since the SK8000 comes with a newer CPU it is only natural to assume the TV will be a little more responsive in the user interface.





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QUOTE(berrycoo~ @ Jun 14 2018, 11:32 PM)
Hmm, for my case I don't really need the viewing angle because mainly will be using this alone. Yea I do need anti reflection as there is sunlight from the side. Another main factor for me is the picture quality, or color reproduction tbe. Like I am not sure why Samsung's color is always abit cool (or washed out/pale). Is it because of a setting problem?
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If you don't need the wider viewing angles you can pretty much give up on the IPS panel .



If picture quality is important to you , contrast rating of the TV should be taken into consideration , hence the VA panels from Samsung .
For a brighter room you will need a fairly bright TV as well , higher brightness can overcome the glare from other light source to preserve the picture quality of the TV.

Now this can be a bit of a challenge , because at this budget I am not sure if there is a TV that is both bright enough and have good contrast (which translate into picture quality )

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i am choosing my 4k tv too...things in my mind is sammy 7100 55 inches. Any good suggestion on other brand?

Next is i am thinking on my av receiver, how should i connect all my wires.

Suppose is all 4k source direct to TV. and TV need to have a optical source to my old AV. The max audio setting i can get is 5.1 DTS. Without any TRUEHD or MASTER HD.
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QUOTE(Ree73 @ Jun 15 2018, 07:41 AM)
i am choosing my 4k tv too...things in my mind is sammy 7100 55 inches. Any good suggestion on other brand?

Next is i am thinking on my av receiver, how should i connect all my wires.

Suppose is all 4k source direct to TV. and TV need to have a optical source to my old AV. The max audio setting i can get is 5.1 DTS. Without any TRUEHD or MASTER HD.
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Budget approximate ?

What do you use your TV for most of the time ?

How is the room condition of your TV, bright , dim or dark ?

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Budget approximate ?

What do you use your TV for most of the time ?

How is the room condition of your TV, bright , dim or dark ?
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Budget? Prefer to <3k. Previously ask abt Sony x75 around $3600. Browse around and saw sammy with all HDR features <3k.

TV usage? stream 720 program.

Room condition? Room bright in the morning session.

Was getting a rebate from electronic purchase. Was thinking to add a 4K TV by topping up a bit. Meanwhile saw Haier TV around $2500 with all features, follow by LG, toshiba, philips, and sammy ($3000)...

With this plan to upgrade TV 1st (Ya, how much is the shop charge to trade in any old 42 inch LED TV lately?), later maybe AV (such as Dannon 2500 or onkyo)

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Their performance are in the same ballpark ,  but since the SK8000 comes with a newer CPU  it is only natural to assume the TV will be a little more responsive in the user interface.
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What about the new image processor?

QUOTE(Convael @ Jun 15 2018, 06:57 AM)
If you don't need the wider viewing angles you can pretty much give up on the IPS panel .
If picture quality is important to you , contrast rating of the TV should be taken into consideration , hence the VA panels from Samsung .
For a brighter room you will need a fairly bright TV as well , higher brightness can overcome the glare from other light source to preserve the picture quality of the TV.

Now this can be a bit of a challenge , because at this budget I am not sure if there is a TV that is both bright enough and have good contrast (which translate into picture quality )
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Actually I am not that hardcore into TV. So the best that fits my budget would do. PQ of the TV is my main concern. Yes the living room might be bright during afternoons but I can pull down the curtains etc so the tv need not be that bright. So for my case I should go for the Samsung 55" NU7400 rather than LG 49" SUHD?
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What about the new image processor?
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There are no reports of it being exceptional better . Most modern 4k TV can do a good job of upscaling older content , some ( like Sony ) can do slightly better to produce cleaner image. Again the difference is so minor , most people wouldn't notice the difference ( if there is any ) .


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Actually I am not that hardcore into TV. So the best that fits my budget would do. PQ of the TV is my main concern. Yes the living room might be bright during afternoons but I can pull down the curtains etc so the tv need not be that bright. So for my case I should go for the Samsung 55" NU7400 rather than LG 49" SUHD?



If picture quality is your concern , you will need to look for TV with darker black , hence the contrast ratings.


The Samsung nu7400 is brighter on average (300+cd/m2), probably at the same level as Mu6100 / nu7100 . Because it lacks any sort of local dimming , it is can't to produce the bright highlights you see from the HDR content typically mastered at above 1000cd/m2 + . This TV are mostly in VA panels so it will have much better contrast than the LG SJ800, thus producing better picture quality , especially in the darker room.


On the other hand , the LG sJ800 is equipped with local dimming system , a very underwhelming one that is . But it is better than nothing . The local dimming can brighten different areas of the screen up to 600cd/m2 + , so the HDR effects will look better on this TV. But outside of the HDR mode , it is not a very bright TV ( average brightness ~ 220 cd/m2 )

This is assuming you have a lot of HDR compatible movies / games to watch . For SDR content , they appear to be performing similarly
Neither TV are bright enough to fight off the glare if there is sunlight in the room

If you are looking for brighter TV, the Sharp 6800x is brighter than both of these 2 TV but can usually be found at similar price tags




QUOTE(Ree73 @ Jun 15 2018, 08:32 AM)
Budget? Prefer to <3k. Previously ask abt Sony x75 around $3600. Browse around and saw sammy with all HDR features <3k.

TV usage? stream 720 program.

Room condition? Room bright in the morning session.

Was getting a rebate from electronic purchase. Was thinking to add a 4K TV by topping up a bit. Meanwhile saw Haier TV around $2500 with all features, follow by LG, toshiba, philips, and sammy ($3000)...

With this plan to upgrade TV 1st (Ya, how much is the shop charge to trade in any old 42 inch LED TV lately?), later maybe AV (such as Dannon 2500 or onkyo)

Thanks
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Most of the entry level 4k TV can only process the HDR metadata, they cannot really display the true effect of HDR . The only TVs that truly able to show off HDR in its most gorgeous form are the OLED TV and the very high-end LED TV which usually cost ~ 10k


Especially base on the content you watch , you don't have to worry too much about HDR .


I remain skeptical of the Chinese brands such as Haier , Skyworth , and to a certain Degree , Sharp since its acquisition by Taiwan

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There are no reports of it being exceptional better  . Most modern 4k TV can do a good job of upscaling older content , some ( like Sony ) can do slightly better to produce cleaner image. Again the difference is so minor , most people wouldn't notice the difference ( if there is any ) .
If picture quality is your concern , you will need to look for TV with darker black , hence the contrast ratings.
The Samsung nu7400 is brighter on average  (300+cd/m2), probably at the same level as Mu6100 / nu7100 . Because it lacks any sort of local dimming , it is can't to produce the bright highlights you see from the HDR content typically mastered at above 1000cd/m2 + . This TV are mostly in VA panels so it will have much better contrast than the LG SJ800, thus producing better picture quality , especially in the darker room.
On the other hand , the LG sJ800 is equipped with local dimming system , a very underwhelming one that is . But it is better than nothing . The local dimming can brighten different areas of the screen up to 600cd/m2 + , so the HDR effects will look better on this TV. But outside of the HDR mode , it is not a very bright TV ( average brightness ~ 220 cd/m2 )

This is assuming you have a lot of HDR compatible movies / games to watch . For SDR content , they appear to be performing similarly
Neither TV are bright enough to fight off the glare if there is sunlight in the room

If you are looking for brighter TV, the Sharp 6800x is brighter than both of these 2 TV but can usually be found at similar price tags
Most of the entry level 4k TV can only process the HDR metadata, they cannot really display the true effect of HDR . The only TVs that truly able to show off HDR in its most gorgeous form are the OLED TV and the very high-end LED TV which usually cost ~ 10k
Especially base on the content you watch  , you don't have to worry too much about HDR .
I remain skeptical of the Chinese brands such as Haier , Skyworth , and to a certain Degree , Sharp since its acquisition by Taiwan
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So I can say that for gaming and watching tv show purpose, its better to get VA panel?

I don't really get this local dimming thing. On samsung website they claim the nu7400 has uhd dimming. Is that not local dimming? Also how about the X7500F/X7000E? 55" X7500F using what panel and do they have local dimming? Is it worth getting the 55" X7000E compared to the nu7400? Since its quite cheap now and VA panel as well.
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so which is better? Sammy, lg, Toshiba?
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Sony FTW!

KD55x7000e ~RM2.6k

You wont regret.

Trust me when i say for 4K, size matters more than any slight bump in quality.
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sony without gamma dimming???
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So I can say that for gaming and watching tv show purpose, its better to get VA panel?

I don't really get this local dimming thing. On samsung website they claim the nu7400 has uhd dimming. Is that not local dimming? Also how about the X7500F/X7000E? 55" X7500F using what panel and do they have local dimming? Is it worth getting the 55" X7000E compared to the nu7400? Since its quite cheap now and VA panel as well.
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The difference is marginal , so just pick whichever you can find cheaper .

Whichever purpose you are using it for , as long as you get the chance to sit directly in front of your TV , you should go a VA instead of IPS


Local Dimming exists to dim the backlight of the TV so the dark area on the screen will appear more black , creating an overall stronger contrast of the picture , thus enhancing picture quality . The UHD dimming found in Samsung TV is basically a CE Dimming system , where it dims entire screen at once . While this will darken the area to create deeper black levels , unfortunately it will also dim the brighter area / highlights of the other area , so it isn't very efficient and cannot be compared with Full Array Local dimming system.

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Which is the cheapest entry level 55inch with Android tv? Im looking at Samsung, Sony, LG

Unfortunately LG is not true 4k for their lower end tv. Samsung NU7100 or NU7103 also no android tv, Sony X7000e also dont have.

Sharp LC60UA6800X out of budget
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QUOTE(BelaCHAN @ Jun 15 2018, 05:47 PM)
Sony FTW!

KD55x7000e ~RM2.6k

You wont regret.

Trust me when i say for 4K, size matters more than any slight bump in quality.
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Is that price still available anywhere?
Am also looking for a TV with the same budget with this topic.
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Is that price still available anywhere?
Am also looking for a TV with the same budget with this topic.
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http://www.11street.my/productdetail/sony-...rranty-56625729
https://www.lazada.com.my/products/sony-55-...lLVwPD&search=1
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Thanks!
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I also considering new 4K TV (>RM3k).
Still having old pana plasma (working without any glitch rclxms.gif ,all this years).
So,I narrowed my choice to 49" Panasonic or Sony.
Need to choose between:

Panasonic
TH-49EX600K...RM2300
TH-49FX600K...RM2800

Sony
KD49X8000E....RM3000
KD49X7500F.....RM2700

Any comments are welcome..... rclxms.gif
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Hi Sir,

I'm looking for 4k smart TV budget around 2k +- and below my shortlist

1. Samsung UA49MU6100KXXM 49" MU6100 Flat Smart 4K UHD TV UA49MU6100 https://www.lazada.com.my/products/samsung-...s485884973.html

2. Toshiba 49U7750VM 49Ë 4K UHD Android LED TV https://www.lazada.com.my/products/toshiba-...s326659679.html

3. Sharp 4k UHD Android Smart Slim LED TV 50" LC50UA6800X Black https://www.lazada.com.my/products/sharp-4k...s311828734.html

Between this 3, I prefer Samsung since I used LED Samsung for 5 years before and quality is good. However I don't mind to change to other brands ie Smart TV with Android OS like Toshiba and Sharp. Between this 3 which one is better? My priorities is can use at least for 3 to 5 years and good picture quality for Unifi TV and Streaming movie.. ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜
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If you want 4k i'd suggest minimum display size at 55"
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If you want 4k i'd suggest minimum display size at 55"
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It isn't the size they should be concerned about , it is the distance from the TV , as shown by the picture below.

user posted image


If you sit too far away , regardless of the size of the TV , the upgrade to 4k pixels will not be noticeable , hence not worth investing money to get a larger screen to begin with,




Refer to this article for more details here

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QUOTE(danielSinclair @ Jun 16 2018, 10:00 PM)
Hi Sir,

I'm looking for 4k smart TV budget around 2k +- and below my shortlist

1. Samsung UA49MU6100KXXM 49" MU6100 Flat Smart 4K UHD TV UA49MU6100 https://www.lazada.com.my/products/samsung-...s485884973.html

2. Toshiba 49U7750VM 49Ë 4K UHD Android LED TV https://www.lazada.com.my/products/toshiba-...s326659679.html

3. Sharp 4k UHD Android Smart Slim LED TV 50" LC50UA6800X Black https://www.lazada.com.my/products/sharp-4k...s311828734.html

Between this 3, I prefer Samsung since I used LED Samsung for 5 years before and quality is good. However I don't mind to change to other brands ie Smart TV with Android OS like Toshiba and Sharp. Between this 3 which one is better? My priorities is can use at least for 3 to 5 years and good picture quality for Unifi TV and Streaming movie.. ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜
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The Sharp obviously come packing with more advanced features , with a more hefty price tag .

The Toshiba TV has left the race a while ago , but in this case it is the cheapest Android TV model you can find now ( RM 2400~ ), without the support for HDR . Although at this price range HDR will not make a difference than SDR ( Standard Dynamic Range )


Is there any particular reason you are obsessed with Android TV ? The Android OS are sluggish , unresponsive and more prone to frequent crashes .
Just look at all the high end Sony TV , despite having some fantastic performance the Android OS has been dragging the TV down from their review scores.


Almost every single Sony TV review mention some horrible experience about their Android OS .


Since you don't use HDR content at all , the WCG and Higher brightness shouldn't be a concern , as all 3 TVs have more than enough brightness for SDR content.
Save yourself some money , grab a mu6100 and you have a good deal.

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QUOTE(Convael @ Jun 17 2018, 12:53 AM)
It isn't the size they should be concerned about , it is the distance from the TV , as shown by the picture below.

user posted image
If you sitting too far away , regardless of the size of the TV , the upgrade to 4k pixels will not be noticeable , hence not worth investing money to get a larger screen to begin with,
Refer to this article for more details here
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Obviously when you watch a smaller screen you will sit closer until you get a comfortable viewing distance even if it means on the floor although your sofa is 50 feet away.
Watching 4K on a 20†or 30†isn’t going to make much difference to a 1080p no matter what distance you are from the screen.
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QUOTE(Convael @ Jun 17 2018, 12:59 AM)
The Sharp obviously come packing with more advanced features , with a more hefty price tag .

The Toshiba TV has left the race a while ago , but in this case it is the cheapest Android TV model you can find now  ( RM 2400~ ), without the support for HDR . Although at this price range HDR will not make a difference than SDR ( Standard Dynamic Range )
Is there any particular reason you are obsessed with Android TV ? The Android OS are sluggish , unresponsive and more prone to frequent crashes .
Just look at all the high end Sony TV  , despite having some fantastic performance the Android OS has been dragging the TV down from their review scores.
Almost every single Sony TV review mention some horrible experience about their Android OS .
Since you don't use HDR content at all , the WCG and Higher brightness shouldn't be a concern , as all 3  TVs have more than enough brightness for SDR content.
Save yourself some money , grab a mu6100 and you have a good deal.
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Hi. thank you for your feedback. The only reason I would like to choose Android OS TV maybe because can install streaming apps on the TV ie Astro Go, Iflix, Netflix, Terrarium TV, Kodi etc so can play without need to use different Android box. I still considering MU6100 as the best choice within my budget ðŸ˜
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Hi. thank you for your feedback. The only reason I would like to choose Android OS TV maybe because can install streaming apps on the TV ie Astro Go, Iflix, Netflix, Terrarium TV, Kodi etc so can play without need to use different Android box. I still considering MU6100 as the best choice within my budget ðŸ˜
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edited : Iflix and netflix are generic apps that are available on most modern smart TV . Thx to Avfan pointed out , certain apps like Kodi , will only work under Android OS , therefore is unavailable on OS like Tizen which is base on Linux.

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Most smart tv can do that as well .
Like the Samsung model you mention , it can install most of the apps you listed above.
The only time I heard of these apps having difficulties to install are on the China brands TV ( Skyworth , Haier ,  Xiaomi TV , etc etc ).
These  TV usually have a big flaw hiding behind the cheaper price tag .
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Hi sifu, i asked about Android tv in previous post but no one replied.

Samsung MU6100 and Sony X7000E also can kodi, netflix etc? Which would you recommend from the two. I see side by side i feel Samsung is clearer/sharper? It was ntv7 and also Astro hd channel, i thought Sony supposed to have better upscaling?
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QUOTE(titanmelvin @ Jun 17 2018, 09:42 PM)
Hi sifu, i asked about Android tv in previous post but no one replied.

Samsung MU6100 and Sony X7000E also can kodi, netflix etc? Which would you recommend from the two. I see side by side i feel Samsung is clearer/sharper? It was ntv7 and also Astro hd channel, i thought Sony supposed to have better upscaling?
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Kodi and netflix are typical apps , as such they can be installed on any smart TV , specifically the 2 units you mention.

Edited : Kodi is not available on NON-Android OS , therefore you cannot install these App from the the TV 's appstore .


It is hard to tell a difference from a TV display in the shop , because TV merchant are known to play with the TV settings in order to bait buyers into buying the TV.
We also don't know what settings they use in the shop unit . Perhaps the Samsung TV you saw has set up for higher sharpness in the menu ?


When we said better, the difference is so small most people will not notice it . Not to mention Sony's slight advantage is virtually non existent here because Samsung has excellent upscaling as well.




For a budget of 2-3k , x7000e and mu6100 are generally the most solid choice in Malaysia . They are still superior to the other China brands in terms of TV design ,build and features .

If you want a VA panel , go for mu6100 . For IPS panel ,go for x7000e .
55 inches of x7000e is a VA panel . 43 inches version of mu6300 is an IPS panel.



P/S : x7000e is slightly better for sports viewing and mu6100 is slightly better for gaming

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Kodi and netflix are typical apps , as such they can be installed on any smart TV , specifically the 2 units you mention.
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are you sure samsung smart tv's can install kodi, astrogo, terrarium and iflix?

i mean install and run on tv system, not casting or use pc->hdmi->tv.

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are you sure samsung smart tv's can install kodi and astrogo?

i mean install and run om tv, not chromecast or use pc->hdmi->tv.
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My bad on that , kodi does not install on non - android OS like Tizen natively .

I am unsure about Astro go , will check later . I am only aware it was recently added to LG 's webOS
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My bad on that , kodi does not install on non - android OS like Tizen natively .

I am unsure about Astro go , will check later .  I am only aware it was recently added to LG 's webOS
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right..

most smart tv's come with and can do youtube, netlfix, browser.

new LG is said to be able to do astrogo.

sony and sharp androidtv tv's can do the most - besides youtube, netlfix, kodi, can sideload astrogo, unifi playtv... just about every android app.

you are probably right to say that the cheap androidtv tv's may be problematic - it's all about good and lousy firmware.

i have use my sharp for 3 years now, all is good.

of course, will need some work and patience to get all the apps working.

much easier for someone who has used android phone, tablet or box.
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Kodi and netflix are typical apps , as such they can be installed on any smart TV , specifically the 2 units you mention.

Edited : Kodi is not available on NON-Android OS , therefore you cannot install these App from the the TV 's appstore .
It is hard to tell a difference from a TV display in the shop , because TV merchant are known to play with the TV settings in order to bait buyers into buying the TV.
We also don't know what settings they use in the shop unit . Perhaps the Samsung TV you saw has set up for higher sharpness in the menu ? 
When we said better, the difference is so small most people will not notice it . Not to mention Sony's slight advantage is virtually non existent here because Samsung has excellent upscaling as well.
For a budget of 2-3k , x7000e and mu6100 are generally the most solid choice in Malaysia . They are still superior to the other China brands in terms of TV design ,build and features .

If you want a VA panel , go for mu6100 . For IPS panel ,go for x7000e .
55 inches of x7000e is a VA panel . 43 inches version of mu6300 is an IPS panel. 
P/S : x7000e is slightly better for sports viewing and mu6100 is slightly better for gaming
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hi sir, between mu6100 and nu7100 which one should I go for it? mu6100 only available via online shop ie lazada shopee etc and nu7100 available in phisical shop ie Senheng n Harvey Norman. The price doesn't different much. Which 1 is good or better specs? thanks ☺ï¸

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jun 17 2018, 10:48 PM)
right..

most smart tv's come with and can do youtube, netlfix, browser.

new LG is said to be able to do astrogo.

sony and sharp androidtv tv's can do the most - besides youtube, netlfix, kodi, can sideload astrogo, unifi playtv... just about every android app.

you are probably right to say that the cheap androidtv tv's may be problematic - it's all about good and lousy firmware.

i have use my sharp for 3 years now, all is good.

of course, will need some work and patience to get all the apps working.

much easier for someone who has used android phone, tablet or box.
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so far for the 3 years did you found any apps not compatible with your TV? Did your TV required android upgrade like mobile phone?
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QUOTE(danielSinclair @ Jun 19 2018, 12:09 AM)
hi sir, between mu6100 and nu7100 which one should I go for it? mu6100 only available via online shop ie lazada shopee etc and nu7100 available in phisical shop ie Senheng n Harvey Norman. The price doesn't different much. Which 1 is good or better specs? thanks ☺ï¸
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Mu6100 is last year model . TV stores have been doing major sales for the model , it is not surprising if you don't find the models in physical shop anymore.


As I have mentioned previously, Samsung is dropping the ball for their budget TV.
Every years , they have been getting worse .
From the KU /KS series to Mu , and now the NU series .
Nu7100 is not as bright as the Mu6100 , not as deep Contrast ratings , worse remote control , no voice control etc etc


Not that nu7100 is a bad TV , just not as good as its predecessor


Between mu6100 and nu7100 , just find whichever that is cheaper .


note :nu7100 come pre-installed with Steam Link functions , so if you are wish to use the steam functions on your tv, it may be worth consideration.
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so far for the 3 years did you found any apps not compatible with your TV? Did your TV required android upgrade like mobile phone?
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There are apps that will be rejected by the security of the androidtv system.
Such apps are usually highly suspect, maybe infected, meaning the security works.
The common popular ones are fine.

There are constant minor upgrades done ota or over the air, u dun even notice it.
Major ones, say android5 to android6 or android6 to android7, u will be prompted, need to activate manually.
And that is rare, only once in 3 years, unlikely to happen again.

A last word for u... if u do not know android apps much or hv little interest, androidtv will be of little use to u.
If u r big user, it is as good as any rm500 android box u buy separately.
Minor users use it to watch youtube 4k or bloomberg news.
Major users can watch hd videos with kodi, watch world cup matches live in 1080p - foc, using androidtv.

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There are apps that will be rejected by the security of the androidtv system.
Such apps are usually highly suspect, maybe infected, meaning the security works.
The common popular ones are fine.

There are constant minor upgrades done ota or over the air, u dun even notice it.
Major ones, say android5 to android6 or android6 to android7, u will be prompted, need to activate manually.
And that is rare, only once in 3 years, unlikely to happen again.

A last word for u... if u do not know android apps much or hv little interest, androidtv will be of little use to u.
If u r big user, it is as good as any rm500 android box u buy separately.
Minor users use it to watch youtube 4k or bloomberg news.
Major users can watch hd videos with kodi, watch world cup matches live in 1080p - foc, using androidtv.
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If I can consider myself as a major user since I watched movie via Kodi and Terrarium TV ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ however I don't know how to watch WC live in 1080p foc 😢😢 could you please teach me sifu☺ï¸â˜ºï¸
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jun 19 2018, 12:56 AM)
There are apps that will be rejected by the security of the androidtv system.
Such apps are usually highly suspect, maybe infected, meaning the security works.
The common popular ones are fine.

There are constant minor upgrades done ota or over the air, u dun even notice it.
Major ones, say android5 to android6 or android6 to android7, u will be prompted, need to activate manually.
And that is rare, only once in 3 years, unlikely to happen again.

A last word for u... if u do not know android apps much or hv little interest, androidtv will be of little use to u.
If u r big user, it is as good as any rm500 android box u buy separately.
Minor users use it to watch youtube 4k or bloomberg news.
Major users can watch hd videos with kodi, watch world cup matches live in 1080p - foc, using androidtv.
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Can you recommend add on/apps for Kodi/Android box for world cup live 1080p?
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QUOTE(danielSinclair @ Jun 19 2018, 04:45 PM)
If I can consider myself as a major user since I watched movie via Kodi and Terrarium TV ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ however I don't know how to watch WC live in 1080p foc 😢😢 could you please teach me sifu☺ï¸â˜ºï¸
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Can you recommend add on/apps for Kodi/Android box for world cup live 1080p?
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android apps is a major topic on its own, will not discuss much here.

but will just say that simple kodi addons and terrarium won't get u the best stuff alto they are acceptable to many.
there are better apps and methods for high quality HD streams - if u hv the right device, speed and put in the effort.
try reading:
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4600175/+140
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3115619/+800#top

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QUOTE(Convael @ Jun 14 2018, 01:54 AM)
X7000e : the most basic UHD TV entry from Sony last year , second cheapest among your list , NO WCG , No Local dimming , Good motion handling , can play 24p content, great sport programs support , doesn't support WIFI 5G , the 55 inches version is a VA panel which I would recommend if you can find one cheaper .

x8000e : There have been quite some ppl singing praises about this particular model in Lowyat ( I don't get it ) to the point comparing it with OLED ( Joke of the decade )
One of them attacked me with a death threat before . It's scary when people paid a large sum of money for something mediocre yet want to feel justified for the high expenses.
Back to the TV , this is actually a decent TV , just not for its price . It used to be much more expensive.  Despite being a middle level TV, the brightness of model is very meh , not to mention it has no local dimming which hampered its ability to display any decent HDR , below average contrast level even when comparing with the IPS standards . It has WCG , meh motion handling ( worse than X7000E in fact) , slightly better upscaling processor (like all Sony TVs ). Input lag is a little on the high side as well . If you can find it below 3k it isn't a bad choice , I guess
Samsung : Their lower end TV has been getting worse by each year , from the all amazing KU series to the not so impressive MU series , this year's NU series is a hit or miss

MU6100 : The best all around-TV for its value . The mu 6 series have very amazing contrast level , despite having no local dimming of any sorts .  No WCG , No local dimming ( using Samsung's CE dimming ) , great BFI support

Nu7400 : Suppose to be the successor to mu 6 series with wide color gamut support , it also has steam link if you use steam . I have seen this TV from the store  , it looks to be identical with 6300 with similar brightness ( which is decent )
LG : LG's Mid ~ lower end models love to use RGBW panel , buy at your own risk

UJ630 T =  The cheapest TV among the bunch .  This TV uses RGBW panel , which really hurts its color volume especially when showing Brighter NON-white colors  ,  if you decide to use your TV as monitor one day , colorful fonts are going to look weird.  If you can look past this , it isn't very much different than the Sony x7000e .

SJ800T = The supreme UHD LED TV from LG , of IPS panel . This is probably the best TV among your list , it has all the features required to display HDR  . While it still can't really compete with higher End models, this is the most comprehensive IPS TV you can buy @ around 3k
All the models you mentioned have very good input latency for gaming except the x8000e . Sorry Sony , I still love you very much , just not your low - mid range TVs
As for screen size , Amazon recommends the distance from your 4K TV to be around 1.5x  the size of TV screen  . EG : for a 55 inches TV , the distance between you and your TV should be @ 55 inches - 75 inches .  Although the whole point of getting UHD TV is , you can sit closer to the screen to witness the awesomeness of all the 4K pixels
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SJ800T uses RGBW?
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Sony KD49X7500F.....RM2690

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bro, u beli kt kedai mana ni?
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bro, u beli kt kedai mana ni?
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Nope , RGB
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MU6100 RM3900 should I take it ?
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Second ,no size........ shakehead.gif
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Please advise and recommend me, the pros & most importantly the cons of the following. I'm confused & spoilt for choice..

49" Sony x7500f (rm 2988)
49" Toshiba u7750 (rm 2411)
55" Sony x7000e (rm 2685)
58" Samsung nu7103 (rm 2959)
55" LG uk6320 (rm 2888)
50" Sharp ua6800x (rm 2829)
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I got Samsung 55NU7400 for MYR2926 at goshop. The waiting games begin.
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which 65 inch 4k tv brand/model come with IPS display?
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which 65 inch 4k tv brand/model come with IPS display?
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Please advise and recommend me, the pros & most importantly the cons of the following. I'm confused & spoilt for choice..

49" Sony x7500f (rm 2988)
49" Toshiba u7750 (rm 2411)
55" Sony x7000e (rm 2685)
58" Samsung nu7103 (rm 2959)
55" LG uk6320 (rm 2888)
50" Sharp ua6800x (rm 2829)
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49" Sony x7500f you can get for rm 2700.
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I got Samsung 55NU7400 for MYR2926 at goshop. The waiting games begin.
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This is a very good price. 3699 in senQ rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(enkil @ Jun 25 2018, 02:33 PM)
This is a very good price. 3699 in senQ  rclxms.gif
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At first wanna buy at senheng but i just clicked goshop ads and voila. The price is MYR3325 and after 12% discount. Final price is RM2926. Now just wait tv arrive
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QUOTE(Convael @ Jun 15 2018, 12:38 AM)
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If you sit too far from the screen , then the upgrade to UHD TV isn't going to worth it

However , everyone has a preference  . If you like what you are seeing , no one has the rights to say you're wrong.
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My living room upstairs only about 9"+ wall to wall..if put sofa + hang the TV..should left me about 7-8"? Would 55" 4K TV would be OK or too small?
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My living room upstairs only about 9"+ wall to wall..if put sofa + hang the TV..should left me about 7-8"? Would 55" 4K TV would be OK or too small?
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It is an acceptable range , you will see the improvement for 4k content but the upgrade is not very significant compare with 65 inches or larger screens.

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By the standards of SMPTE (Society of Motion Picture & Television Engineers) , they suggest the TV screen filling up 30% of your vision for normal people , 40% for Cinema enthusiast for more immersion .


65 inches = 8.9' (2.69 m) for 30% ; 6.5' (1.98 m) for 40%

55 inches = 7.5' (2.28 m) for 30 % ; 5.5' (1.68 m) for 40%


So yea , feel free make the adjustment by yourself . Take note everyone has a different endurance , some people may experience motion sickness sitting too close to the TV , so take these as a guideline , but not absolute rules .


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At first wanna buy at senheng but i just clicked goshop ads and voila. The price is MYR3325 and after 12% discount. Final price is RM2926. Now just wait tv arrive
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This is goshop as in the astro one? how to apply th 12%?
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This is goshop as in the astro one? how to apply th 12%?
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Yes Astro goshop

After you add to cart and next page there is an option to pick which discount you could use.

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Yes Astro goshop

After you add to cart and next page there is an option to pick which discount you could use.
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Hmm what 4k TV now is good for gaming?

Saw that Sony 65" X7500F pricing at Go Shop after discount can buy at RM4,500

But does Go Shop reputation and delivery handling good as of today?
Did some google and saw lots bad comment.
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QUOTE(TongCN @ Jun 26 2018, 12:04 PM)
Hmm what 4k TV now is good for gaming?

Saw that Sony 65" X7500F pricing at Go Shop after discount can buy at RM4,500

But does Go Shop reputation and delivery handling good as of today?
Did some google and saw lots bad comment.
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My tv just arrive today sent by GDex. Pay june 24th. Trusted
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Got a new 65 inch MU6100 (2017 model) for RM3.9k. Just got delivered today but it was in retail mode.

Is the default supposed to be retail or home mode? I hope it's not a display unit...
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QUOTE(titanmelvin @ Jun 27 2018, 12:29 AM)
Got a new 65 inch MU6100 (2017 model) for RM3.9k. Just got delivered today but it was in retail mode.

Is the default supposed to be retail or home mode? I hope it's not a display unit...
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I don't think you should be too paranoid , most TV maker at least power on their TV to test and do minor calibrating before shipping out .


If this is a display unit , you can tell easily. Look for small corner of the TV , if it is used it is probably dusty. No matter how hard they try to clean it


If you have an older Samsung remote control from your older TV , you can also check the service menu .
You can no longer access to the hidden service menu with the new TV 's smart remote . Samsung doesn't want people messing with their TV inner settings.


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QUOTE(titanmelvin @ Jun 27 2018, 12:29 AM)
Got a new 65 inch MU6100 (2017 model) for RM3.9k. Just got delivered today but it was in retail mode.

Is the default supposed to be retail or home mode? I hope it's not a display unit...
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The packaging should give u a hint if it’s used or new. Then the service menu to check usage hours
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QUOTE(Convael @ Jun 27 2018, 12:45 AM)
I don't think you should be too paranoid , most TV maker at least power on their TV to test and do minor calibrating before shipping out .
If this is a display unit , you can tell easily. Look for small corner of the TV , if it is used it is probably dusty. No matter how hard they try to clean it
If you have an older Samsung remote control from your older TV , you can also check the service menu .
You can no longer access to the hidden service menu with the new TV 's smart remote . Samsung doesn't want people messing with their TV inner settings.
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Thanks! i checked everywhere and it doesn't have dust biggrin.gif

QUOTE(stinky @ Jun 27 2018, 12:49 AM)
The packaging should give u a hint if it’s used or new. Then the service menu to check usage hours
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I don't have the packaging as i was not home when tv was delivered. Box already thrown away... i need to get a phone with IR blaster to go in service menu. Only got the smart remote cant go in now
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QUOTE(Convael @ Jun 27 2018, 12:45 AM)
I don't think you should be too paranoid , most TV maker at least power on their TV to test and do minor calibrating before shipping out .
If this is a display unit , you can tell easily. Look for small corner of the TV , if it is used it is probably dusty. No matter how hard they try to clean it
If you have an older Samsung remote control from your older TV , you can also check the service menu .
You can no longer access to the hidden service menu with the new TV 's smart remote . Samsung doesn't want people messing with their TV inner settings.
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When I was in electrical shop, another guy was buying display unit. 2 foreign workers were helping him wipe and vacuum the tv clean before delivery. So might not be able to find dust even if used. Maybe check for finger prints tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Topet @ Jun 26 2018, 12:33 PM)
My tv just arrive today sent by GDex. Pay june 24th. Trusted
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Now i'm looking into X8500E after my local store offer me Rm6k >.<

So tempted now icon_question.gif
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Speaking of GoShop, they have the Sharp 60LE580X going for 2.3k.. worth to buy?
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QUOTE(enkil @ Jun 26 2018, 11:25 PM)
Have fun  rclxms.gif
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Haha..thanks but not really fun. Still my plasma better even though only 1080p. Need an OLED maybe next purchase of tv.
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Haha..thanks but not really fun. Still my plasma better even though only 1080p. Need an OLED maybe next purchase of tv.
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If you come from the plasma , only very high end LED TV and OLED will be a dramatic improvement for you .


They are much brighter than any Plasma TVs ever existed .

The mid and entry range of LED TV couldn't even come close because Plasma TV has fantastic blacks , almost OLED level of picture quality .

The OLED HDR is the one single biggest improvement human's eye perception can get from a 4k display .
Plasma TV can only get up to 150 nits~ brightness level , the latest OLED can go up to 1000 nits .

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QUOTE(stasio @ Jun 16 2018, 06:37 PM)
I also considering new 4K TV (>RM3k).
Still having old pana plasma (working without any glitch  rclxms.gif ,all this years).
So,I narrowed my choice to 49" Panasonic or Sony.
Need to choose between:


Sony
KD49X8000E....RM3000
KD49X7500F.....RM2700

Any comments are welcome..... rclxms.gif
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Hi bro,

I am also looking at the 7500F model, it seems 49 inch and 55 inch difference is one is edge led the other is direct led, any diff?

Lazada cheapest for 49 inch around 2.8k (with delivery) and don't have 55 inch model. Tomorrow I will go sony shop to check.

My sony 3D smart tv of 5 years now have 1 red dotted vertical line, I guess time to change.

Any bros there give comment on the TV size. I plan to put the TV in my room with the distance around 1m to 1.2m viewing distance. Not sure if 55 inch will be too big.

Hopefully the Sony shop has the latest model 9000F, it has the X1 processor, any bros know what's the cheapest price for this model 55 inch?

Many thanks.
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Hi bro,

I am also looking at the 7500F model, it seems 49 inch and 55 inch difference is one is edge led the other is direct led, any diff?

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QUOTE(Convael @ Jun 20 2018, 10:33 PM)
Between the 2 , Direct lit and Edge lit refer to different backlight system  but as far as I know neither have any actual Local dimming system therefore the difference shouldn't be too dramatic.
Direct Lit TVs will dim the entire screen when the APL of the screen is lower , while this will boost the black depth  it will also dim the highlights of the screen. So there's the pros and cons . But these TV generally have better control of the screen luminance than edge lit TV without local dimming.
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There is no distinct difference between Edge Lit and Direct Lit among the entry level 4k HDR TV .

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Any bros there give comment on the TV size. I plan to put the TV in my room with the distance around 1m to 1.2m viewing distance. Not sure if 55 inch will be too big.
QUOTE(Convael @ Jun 22 2018, 12:52 PM)
By the standards of SMPTE  (Society of Motion Picture & Television Engineers) , they suggest the TV screen filling up 30% of your vision for normal people , 40% for Cinema enthusiast for more immersion .

65 inches =  8.9' (2.69 m)  for 30% ;   6.5' (1.98 m) for 40%

55 inches =  7.5' (2.28 m)  for 30 % ;  5.5' (1.68 m) for 40%

50 inches =  6.8' (2.06m)  for 30 % ; 5'  (1.53 m ) for 40%

45 inches = 6.1' (1.86 m)  for 30 % ; 4.5' (1.37 m) for 40%

40 inches = 5.5' (1.66 m)  for 30%  ; 4' (1.22 m) for 40%


So yea , feel free make the adjustment by yourself . Take note everyone has a different endurance , some people may experience motion sickness sitting too close to the TV , so take these as a guideline , but not absolute rules .

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Lazada cheapest for 49 inch around 2.8k (with delivery) and don't have 55 inch model. Tomorrow I will go sony shop to check


x7500f is basically a x7000f but comes with Android TV OS . Or you can grab a x7000f and save some money for an android box.

Senheng on 11street has 55 inches of x7500f .

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Hopefully the Sony shop has the latest model 9000F, it has the X1 processor, any bros know what's the cheapest price for this model 55 inch?


Sony doesn't sell 55 inches X9000F in Malaysia according to their website. The 85 inches is currently retailing at RM 22k.

X1 Xtreme processor is actually a 2017 model, a new X1 Ultimate processor is probably coming out soon on the rumored Z9F to go head2head with LG 's a9 .

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i'm in dilemma to choose between Hisense 50M5010UW or Philips 50PUT6102
Both are around 2K (my budget is around this range only sweat.gif )

Please advise and recommend if you guys have better recommendation.


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i'm in dilemma to choose between Hisense 50M5010UW or Philips 50PUT6102
Both are around 2K (my budget is around this range only  sweat.gif )

Please advise and recommend if you guys have better recommendation.
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Samsung NU7100

Samsung MU6100

Sony x7000e and x7000f are also in the same range of price
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Samsung NU7100

Samsung MU6100

Sony x7000e and x7000f are also in the same range of price
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Thanks for the recommendation, will check it out brows.gif
mind to advice why recommending these models instead of hisense / philips ? The latter have higher specs though... hmm.gif
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Thanks for the recommendation, will check it out brows.gif
mind to advice why recommending these models instead of hisense / philips ? The latter have higher specs though... hmm.gif
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Philips , like several other brands , they don't nearly have enough testers to test their TV these days .
It is not to say they don't make good TV , they are just not the brand we once know they were .


Samsung , Sony and LG have the user base , they can afford to do more firmware updates and release bugs fixing patches more often than others.

Hisense is a China Brand . They are fairly new in the market , hence the lower price tags.
They are not very experienced yet when it comes making the best TVs on market , it often comes lacking in many different aspects such as color accuracy , menu interface bugs , calibrating problems etc etc .


I have no doubt given time they will rise up to be one of the leader among the TV brands , but that time is not now .
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All LG sUHD TVs are IPS TVs
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55/65inch ips tv for sony brand any?
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65 inches of x8500f is an IPS panel

or moving to the lower tiers ,

All x7500f models are also IPS panels

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QUOTE(Convael @ Jun 28 2018, 10:55 AM)
65 inches of x8500f is an IPS panel
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only x8500f model come with ips.. how about 49"
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only x8500f model come with ips.. how about 49"
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Last time I checked , a lot of 2018 Sony 4k TV models are available in IPS panels only .

Particularly the x7500f and x7000f series , so I assume all of their available sizes are also IPS unlike last year's model .


So for Mid range , x8500f are your best bet

For entry level , x7500f and x7000f are all IPS panels



They have several new models this year :

AF8 = Their 2018 OLED

x9000f = VA

x8500f = Mostly IPS , except the 70 inches + models

x8300f = VA

x7500f = IPS

X7000f = IPS like x7500f but not an android tv .


Note : Under special circumstances , they may come with a slightly different model numbers like x8503f or with peculiar size such as 70 inches , 58 inches , these may or may not use the same panel as most of the line . To be sure you may want to confirm with Sony on this , as I don't recognize every warehouse models they have on the market , there are too many of them .

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QUOTE(Convael @ Jun 28 2018, 07:34 AM)
There is no distinct difference between Edge Lit and Direct Lit among the entry level 4k HDR TV .
x7500f is basically a x7000f but comes with Android TV OS .  Or you can grab a x7000f and save some money for an android box.

Senheng on 11street has 55 inches of x7500f .
Sony doesn't sell 55 inches  X9000F in Malaysia according to their website. The 85 inches is currently retailing at RM 22k.

X1 Xtreme processor is actually a 2017 model, a new X1 Ultimate processor is probably coming out soon on the rumored Z9F to go head2head with LG 's a9 .
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Many thanks Convael for your feedback and help.

Just went to the sony shop in jb, cheapest 49 inch for X7000F is 2600 and X7500F 2900. Because units just arrived so not much discount. Never to see the display because units just installed and not yet ready... Also confirmed 55 inch too big for my room due to the distance being less than 1.5m.

I think I will wait until Aug to see if got any good promotion to go along. The google voice function can be quite useful for X7500F for searching.

One question though, any bros here know what's the ram size for Sony X7000F? My 3D Sony smart TV always have the problem of insufficient memory when playing youtube sometimes.

Thanks.

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what about LG UJ630? being quoted RM3200 for 60 inches
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Many thanks Convael for your feedback and help.

Just went to the sony shop in jb, cheapest 49 inch for X7000F is 2600 and X7500F 2900. Because units just arrived so not much discount. Never to see the display because units just installed and not yet ready... Also confirmed 55 inch too big for my room due to the distance being less than 1.5m.

I think I will wait until Aug to see if got any good promotion to go along. The google voice function can be quite useful for X7500F for searching.

One question though, any bros here know what's the ram size for Sony X7000F?  My 3D Sony smart TV always have the problem of insufficient memory when playing youtube sometimes.

Thanks.
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2GB is pretty much the standard for most of Sony's TV


QUOTE(ju146 @ Jun 28 2018, 04:11 PM)
what about LG UJ630? being quoted RM3200 for 60 inches
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LG entry levels 4K TV utilize the RGBW panel , instead of the normal RGB . RGBW replace every 4th of the pixel with a white light . While LG claimed RGBW will help saving electric consumption ( they probably did this to save production cost ), this will have long term effects on the picture quality of the TV.

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When displaying a pure white colors , these TV would function like normal RGB TV .
But when the TV switch to colorful scenes , you will notice minor discoloration effects which also cause strange artifact on small ,colorful fonts on the TV screen.

So I would suggest , if your budget allows , spend a few more hundred for other brands if you decide to grab an entry level 4k TV.


Note : LG 's high end models and OLED TVs do not use a RGBW panel .

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Is it recommended to use rtings White Balance and Color Space calibration settings or should i just use Auto?
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Is it recommended to use rtings White Balance and Color Space calibration settings or should i just use Auto?
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Those are for reference only , different panels have a different out of box color accuracy .So what rtings are using may not be right for you


Just leave it to auto unless you want to hire people to calibrate the screen or you have the tools .
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QUOTE(Convael @ Jun 29 2018, 11:32 AM)
Those are for reference only , different panels have a different out of box color accuracy  .So what rtings are using may not be right for you
Just leave it to auto unless you want to hire people to calibrate the screen or you have the tools .
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Alright ... thanks! because the default setting was on Native
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Saw samsung 55nu7100 for 2800 ? Worth the buy ? Or should fork out additional few hundred for nu7400 instead
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Saw samsung 55nu7100 for 2800 ? Worth the buy ? Or should fork out additional few hundred for nu7400 instead
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The primary difference between the two is the support of Wide color gamut , which plays an important role in delivering punchy HDR effects .

So you should consider if you play enough HDR games or watch enough HDR movies to justify the extra $$$ for this feature.

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Which would be a better buy?

KD-55X7000F or Samsung NU7100 55 inch?

Any other models around this price range that are better? Thanks!
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Which would be a better buy?

KD-55X7000F or Samsung NU7100 55 inch?

Any other models around this price range that are better? Thanks!
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Guys, which one should I go for as I am stuck between these 2 choices now.

1) Samsung NU7100 49"
2) Sharp UA6800X 50"

I just bought my Sharp model few days ago and it's still sealed in. Today, my wife came back with a Samsung NU7100 that she won from a lucky draw. Now, I am thinking of which one to keep and I'll sell off the other model.

Thanks!
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Guys, which one should I go for as I am stuck between these 2 choices now.

1) Samsung NU7100 49"
2) Sharp UA6800X 50"

I just bought my Sharp model few days ago and it's still sealed in. Today, my wife came back with a Samsung NU7100 that she won from a lucky draw. Now, I am thinking of which one to keep and I'll sell off the other model.

Thanks!
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The 2 are not exactly in the same league .

The 6800x has slightly more features than Samsung's NU7100 , like wide color gamut. Its a mid-range Sharp Android TV.
The NU7100 is Samsung's 2018 most basic 4K TV .

The former is also slightly more expensive . Which is to keep is entirely up to you , the Sharp TV can probably sell for higher price.





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QUOTE(berrycoo~ @ Jun 13 2018, 07:20 PM)
Hi, looking to buy a 4k tv mainly to play ps4 pro and watch some videos (non-4k) with budget RM3k. Currently looking at:

Sony
KD55x7000e ~RM2.6k
KD49x8000e ~RM3k

Samsung
UA55MU6100 ~RM2.7k
UA50NU7400 ~RM3k

LG
55UJ630t ~RM2.4k
49SJ800t ~RM3k

Which one should I go for? Also is it worth going for wcg ie 49SJ800t/KD49x8000e/UA50NU7400 but with smaller screen size? Is it worth to get smaller screen size + wcg for the PQ difference?
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Any feedback?
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May I know what tv you finally decided to take?

Any feedback?
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I went for NU7400 in the end mainly due to it supports WCG and VA panel which I think is more suitable for gaming on my PS4 Pro. Got the 55" one for rm2926 from goshop. Was considering the LG SUHD but can only get 48" at my budget which I think is abit too small for 4k content.

So far quite satisfied. Color and all is good. The black is indeed really black for VA panel. But other than that PQ should be more or less the same for this range of TV.

If got abit more budget better go for higher range TV like the NU8000. This TV is like on another level compared to the NU7400. NU7400 doesnt even come close.

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QUOTE(berrycoo~ @ Jul 23 2018, 12:04 AM)
I went for NU7400 in the end mainly due to it supports WCG and VA panel which I think is more suitable for gaming on my PS4 Pro. Got the 55" one for rm2926 from goshop. Was considering the LG SUHD but can only get 48" at my budget which I think is abit too small for 4k content.

So far quite satisfied. Color and all is good. The black is indeed really black for VA panel. But other than that PQ should be more or less the same for this range of TV.

If got abit more budget better go for higher range TV like the NU8000. This TV is like on another level compared to the NU7400. NU7400 doesnt even come close.
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Thanks for your reply.

I'm also in a dilemma what kind of tv to choose. Know nothing about tv and after read thru all your thread it help me a bit. Most of the time I'm using my tv same as you (gaming PS4 and just stream movie like Netflix). My budget is just around RM3k, so can't take NU8000 since it over my budget.
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does bluetooth wireless keyboard work with every smart tv (non-android tv)?
i'm targeting logitech k380 keyboard to pair with sony x7000e tv. will it work? icon_question.gif

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QUOTE(three2wan @ Jul 23 2018, 12:26 AM)
Thanks for your reply.

I'm also in a dilemma what kind of tv to choose. Know nothing about tv and after read thru all your thread it help me a bit. Most of the time I'm using my tv same as you (gaming PS4 and just stream movie like Netflix). My budget is just around RM3k, so can't take NU8000 since it over my budget.
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From what I observe by comparing several tv at harvey norman, if got alot of dark scenes va panel is better. Because the black they produce is quite black. If bright scenes ips produce more vibrant color. I went for va because gaming has alot of dark scenes especially at night or dark places. If i am just watching drama or anime then i would have opted for ips
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Tfw when 43" 4K TV using Android is a rarity. whistling.gif
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Wanted to ask you guys opinion, Im looking at Sharp LC60LE580X at RM2.6K ? Worth to buy.

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3) at least Full HD
4) budget below RM2.8K
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Wanted to ask you guys opinion, Im looking at Sharp LC60LE580X at RM2.6K ? Worth to buy.

My requirements:
1) 60 inch
2) android tv
3) at least Full HD
4) budget below RM2.8K
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this tv is 1080p, androidtv.

i seriously suggest u consider something better:

lc45ua6800x rm3000 or
lc50ua6800x, lc60ua6800x.. rm3xxx

6800x range has better engine, 4k hdr android 7, more hdmi input.

rm200-500 more... for 5 years... u decide:

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4488602/+580
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QUOTE(berrycoo~ @ Jul 23 2018, 12:04 AM)
I went for NU7400 in the end mainly due to it supports WCG and VA panel which I think is more suitable for gaming on my PS4 Pro. Got the 55" one for rm2926 from goshop. Was considering the LG SUHD but can only get 48" at my budget which I think is abit too small for 4k content.

So far quite satisfied. Color and all is good. The black is indeed really black for VA panel. But other than that PQ should be more or less the same for this range of TV.

If got abit more budget better go for higher range TV like the NU8000. This TV is like on another level compared to the NU7400. NU7400 doesnt even come close.
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May i know how much you get for NU7400 and where? What size if you don’t mind. I saw shop sell around Rm3699 55†NU7400
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Currently I'm using 55" Plasma by LG and while it works without glitch, it is time to upgrade to 4K. Paired with the TV is an Android Box which I use mainly to watch tv, stream videos from Kodi and watch my own movies using Plex app.

I'm looking for a 4K tv that can tick these boxes:
65" and above
HDR
RGB panel not RGBW
full array local dimming
input lag
use in bright area aka living hall
android a plus but not vital
good picture quality
acceptable for console gaming
some support for dolby, dts, DD+, dts-hd
Compatibility with Logitech Harmony Elite

candidate:
LC60UA6800X


Can you recommend more choices?
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May i know how much you get for NU7400 and where? What size if you don’t mind. I saw shop sell around Rm3699 55†NU7400
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I bought mine from GoShop during their 12% gst promo. Base price was rm3325 that time. Now i checked price 35xx now
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I bought mine from GoShop during their 12% gst promo. Base price was rm3325 that time. Now i checked price 35xx now
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I can find this price Samsung UA55NU7400
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tumpang thread since it's somewhat relevant hehe.

I'm thinking of buying SONY KD-49X7000F 49" for the following reasons:
- one of the cheapest 4K TV
- have 3x HDMI (1 for HyppTV, 1 for Chromecast, 1 extra)
- X-Reality PRO (macam yes from demo unit)

Just gonna use this TV for normal HyppTV watching, 4K movies/Netflix, and gaming (Nintendo Switch + PS4). I'm ok with this not being an AndroidTV since I can buy Chromecast and make it a smart TV haha.

So far I've found the cheapest on Lazada, RM2258:
https://www.lazada.com.my/products/sony-kd-...FvZASw&search=1

Or buy with Senheng (RM150 voucher) via 11street for RM2249:
https://www.11street.my/productdetail/sony-...tv-sny-66338639

Dear sifu and experts sekalian, wat's your verdict and opinion on this SONY X70F? Worth to buy ma? My budget is below RM2.5K for 4K TV smile.gif

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convael
Currently I'm using 55" Plasma by LG and while it works without glitch, it is time to upgrade to 4K. Paired with the TV is an Android Box which I use mainly to watch tv, stream videos from Kodi and watch my own movies using Plex app.

I'm looking for a 4K tv that can tick these boxes:
65" and above
HDR
RGB panel not RGBW
full array local dimming
input lag
use in bright area aka living hall
android a plus but not vital
good picture quality
acceptable for console gaming
some support for dolby, dts, DD+, dts-hd
Compatibility with Logitech Harmony Elite

candidate:
LC60UA6800X
Can you recommend more choices?
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This is going to be a pretty long post because that is a long list of " trials " and features you are imposing on the TV , pardon me for the late reply .
The list is pretty comprehensive , it is basically what high end great TVs should have .

Because you are a Plasma TV owner , it is not easy to find a major upgrade in picture quality . So you may have to consider spending more than RM4k to witness a dramatic upgrade in Picture Quality .


1) Full Array Local Dimming
F.A.L.D is an expensive feature that can generally be found in high end TVs like Sony's Z9D , XE90 , XF90, Samsung's Q9FN and Q8FN etc .

What is more important is the performance of the dimming algorithm . Even with the implementation of the same mechanic , the performance can still vary from models to models .

Due to these restriction of FALD " zones " , they are normally only available on larger sizes ( 55 inches or above )

The Q9FN is currently the most impressive F.A.L.D TV to date , despite of some shortcomings . The TV crushes some small details on screen due to its aggressive dimming nature but it can reach a new height of black levels ( and peak brightness ) no consumer LED TV has ever reach before . OLEDs don't need FALD as their pixel levels of light control is unrivaled by any FALD models in existence .


2) HDR
For most people , HDR is nothing more than a luxury . Some may argue that HDR bring more improvement on the picture quality than an upgrade in picture resolution . HDR performance depends on how much you are willing to spend on TVs . The more expensive TVs usually have better performance .

3) RGB TV
Only the entry/mid level of LG's UHD TV use RGBW panels , the other TV brands know better not to cross the line .


4) Input Latency
Most modern 4k TVs have a specific game mode which decrease the input lag for gaming purposes . Some of the Sony's Android TV doesn't do as good as other brands in this field , especially if you plan to play 1080p games on them .


5) Bright Room TV
As a Living Hall room display , you will want a TV that is bright enough to overcome glare from ambient lights , with a good anti reflection screen coating & great viewing angles .
I recommend an OLED if your budget allows because of the unbeatable picture quality and viewing angles . If you are concern of the burn Ins ,you should look for TV that is bright enough to overcome glare with good anti reflection finish . Usually we recommend people to get an IPS TV if it is going be a Living room TV & they don't want an OLED .


6) Picture Quality
You have mentioned that you owned Plasma, it's tough for LCD LED TV to compete with the black levels of Plasma screen . Only the OLEDs can provide any meaningful upgrades from your plasma , Samsung's Q9FN comes very close .

7) For the Harmony elite compatibility, check out this . Simply enter the TV model and it should tell you if a certain TV model is supported .

8) Android OS on a TV can be problematic . Since you have already owned an Android box , it is as you said the feature should be optional for you

9) some other "features" you mentioned are pretty generic and I will just skip them . For audio supports , you can visit their website .
Look for audio section under the TV model specs ,

For eg , the OLED LG C8 was listed as

QUOTE
Audio Codec : AC4, AC3(Dolby Digital), EAC3, HE-AAC, AAC, MP2, MP3, PCM, DTS, DTS-HD, DTS Express, WMA, apt-X


While the NU7400 on Samsung was listed as
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    Dolby Digital Plus
    Yes

    DTS Codec
    N/A


In a nut shell , there are only a handful of them which tick all of condition above.


- The OLED TVs should pass all your " trials " with flying colors . If you are hesitate to spend too much on the newest models , the 55 inches of LG 's B7 and C7 (which are last year's models ) can be found @ RM 6k -7k from various retailers on the market . Being a plasma TV owner previously , I am sure you know how to take care of your TV . The OLEDs too suffer from risk of Burn-Ins like Plasmas but the chance is relatively low .

- Q9FN ticks most of the boxes above except a few ( namely the wide view angles , which can be important for a Living hall TV ) . It has a fantastic screen brightness and anti-glare & reflection screen finish , which means this TV will look great even in the brightest room . Other notable mention include Sony's X9000F , Z9D , X9300E (*) , X9000E

- Moving on , we have these TVs that don't have an efficient Local Dimming system , so the picture quality may be a slight downgrade from the models mentioned above . They still come pretty close though , such as Samsung's Q7FN , Q6FN , NU8000 , Panasonic FX750K , LG SK8500 (***) . The TV models in this range is more affordable for most people .

- Last but not least , we have TVs that don't nearly tick all the boxes but still manage to output an above average picture with a neat set of features , such as Samsung NU7400 , MU7000 , MU8000 ; Sony's X8500F , X8000E , X8500E , X8300F ( all of which are Android TVs ) ; Panasonic 'S FX700K , LG'S SK8000



* This TV doesn't has a F.A.L.D , instead it operates in a more traditional edge-lit dimming manner . However because of the brilliant implementation of mechanic ( Sony calls it Slim Backlight Drive+ ) the result is nothing short of amazing. This particular model is very hard to find in MY now so you will have to look through the shops.

** TVs in bold fonts are mostly IPS screens.

*** Another example of simply being a FALD TV doesn't mean it is doing great . This TV has F.A.L.D but its dimming algorithm is often slow at responding so blooming around fast moving bright object in dark scenes are more obvious and the on/off from dimming zones are more visible in the dark.



On a site note , I am curious why is the 6800x in your candidate list . It doesn't tick many of what you want in the list .
As a whole , the Sharp 6800x is a pretty decent TV , primarily because of the price tag .
Being a mid range TV , the only features Sharp 6800x offer more than the basic models is the Wide Color Gamut Support and Android OS.

Most basic TV models from the big brands have some forms of motion handling features .
The major drawback for 6800x being , it is doesn't has any sort of motion interpolation feature , at all .
Being a 60hz panel TV , this means the TV also can't effectively remove judders from 24p movies playback.

If you an avid fan of sports content & action movies and would like some motion processing features , there are better choices around especially if you have the budget to spare

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QUOTE(Convael @ Jul 26 2018, 07:40 AM)
This is going to be a pretty long post because that is a long list of " trials " and features you are imposing on the TV ,  pardon me for the late reply .
The list is pretty comprehensive , it is basically what high end great TVs should have . 

Because you are a Plasma TV owner , it is not easy to find a major upgrade in picture quality . So you may have to consider spending more than RM4k to witness a dramatic upgrade in Picture Quality .
1) Full Array Local Dimming
F.A.L.D a very expensive feature that can generally be found in high end TVs like Sony's Z9D , XE90 , XF90, Samsung's Q9FN and Q8FN etc .

What is more important is the performance of the dimming algorithm . Even with the implementation of the same mechanic . The performance can still vary from models to models .

Due to these restriction of FALD " zones " ,  they are normally only available on larger sizes ( 55 inches or above )

The Q9FN is currently the most impressive F.A.L.D TV to date , despite of some shortcomings . The TV crushes some small details on screen due to its aggressive dimming nature but it can reach a new height of black levels ( and peak brightness ) no consumer LED TV has ever reach before . OLEDs don't need FALD as their pixel levels of light control is unrivaled by any FALD models in existence .
2) HDR
For most people , HDR is nothing more than a luxury . Some may argue that HDR bring more improvement on the picture quality than an upgrade in picture resolution  . HDR performance depends on how much you are willing to spend on TVs  . The more expensive TVs usually have better performance .

3) RGB TV
Only the entry/mid level of LG's UHD TV use RGBW panels , the other TV brands know better not to cross the line .
4) Input Latency
Most modern 4k TVs have a specific game mode which decrease the input lag for gaming purposes . Some of the Sony's Android TV doesn't do as good as other brands in this field , especially if you plan to play 1080p games on them .
5) Bright Room TV
As a Living Hall room display , you will want a TV that is bright enough to overcome glare from ambient lights , with a good anti reflection screen finish & great viewing angles .
I recommend an OLED if your budget allows because of the unbeatable picture quality and viewing angles . If you are concern of the burn Ins ,you should look for TV that is bright enough to overcome glare with good anti reflection finish . Usually we recommend people to get an IPS TV if it is going be a Living room TV if they don't want an OLED .
6) Picture Quality
You have mentioned that you owned Plasma, it's tough to for LCD LED TV to compete with the black level of Plasma screen . Only the OLEDs can provide any meaningful upgrades from your plasma , Samsung's Q9FN comes very close .

7) For the Harmony elite compatibility, check out this . Simply enter the TV model and it should tell you if a certain TV model is supported .

8) Android OS on a TV can be problematic . Since you have already owned an Android box , it is as you said the feature should be optional for you

some other "features" you mentioned are pretty generic and I will just skip them .

In a nut shell , there are only a handful of them which tick all of condition above.
- The OLED TVs should pass all your " trials " with flying colors . If you are hesitate to spend too much on the newest models , the 55 inches of LG 's B7 and C7 (which are last year's models ) can be found @ RM 6k -7k from various retailers on the market . Being a plasma TV owner previously , I am sure you know how to take care of your TV . The OLEDs too suffer from risk of Burn-Ins like Plasmas but the chance is relatively low .

- Q9FN ticks most of the boxes above except a few ( namely the wide view angles , which can be important for a Living hall TV ) . It has a fantastic screen brightness and anti-glare & reflection screen finish , which means this TV will look great even in the brightest room .  Other notable mention include Sony's X9000F , Z9D , X9300E (*) , X9000E

- Moving on , we have these TVs that don't have an efficient Local Dimming system , so the picture quality may be a slight downgrade from the models mentioned above . They still come pretty close though , such as Samsung's Q7FN , Q6FN , NU8000 , Panasonic FX750K , LG SK8500 (***) . The TV models in this range is more affordable for most people .

- Last but not least , we have TVs that don't nearly tick all the boxes but still manage to output an above average picture with a neat set of features  , such as Samsung NU7400 , MU7000 , MU8000 ;  Sony's X8500F , X8000E  , X8500E , X8300F ( all of which are Android TVs ) ;  Panasonic 'S FX700K , LG'S SK8000

* This TV doesn't has a F.A.L.D , instead it operates in a more traditional edge-lit dimming manner . However because of the brilliant implementation of mechanic ( Sony calls it Slim Backlight Drive+ ) the result is nothing short of amazing. This particular model is very hard to find in MY now , so you will have to look through the shops

*** Another example of simply being a FALD TV doesn't mean it is doing great .  This TV has F.A.L.D but its dimming algorithm is often slow at responding so blooming around fast moving bright object in dark scenes are more obvious and the on/off from dimming zones are more visible in the dark.

On a site note ,  I am curious why is the 6800x on your candidate list though . It doesn't tick many of what you want in the list .
As a whole , the Sharp 6800x is a pretty decent TV  , primarily because of the price tag .
Being a mid range TV , the only features Sharp 6800x offer more than the basic models is the Wide Color Gamut Support and Android OS.

Most basic TV models from the big brands have some forms of motion handling features  .
The major drawback for 6800x being ,  it is doesn't has any sort of motion interpolation feature , at all . 
Being a 60hz panel TV , this means the TV also can't effectively remove judders from 24p movies playback.

If you an avid fan of sports content & action movies and would like some motion processing features , there are better choices around especially if you have the budget to spare
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Thanks for the in depth answer. There are definitely plenty to choose from.
Samsung UA65NU8000KXXM - RM6299
Sony KD-65X8500F - RM8399
LG 55SK8000 - RM5927
Sharp LC60UA6800X - RM3499

Not necessarily going to look for one which ticks all the criteria but my main criteria would be to find something 65" and above. Not really concerned with the speaker as it will be connected to LG HT.

My main usage with the tv is binge watching tv series, watching movies streamed from my Plex server, watch channels from my android box and play PS4 on it.

I added Sharp in the mix as I saw it has good review and have a good price. Although I would need to literally experience it before making any decision.
From the above, which would you choose? Or do you have any other model that you can suggest? I'm trying to limit my budget to around Rm6k but probably can stretch it to RM8k only if it worth it. If the difference of features between them not too great, might as well go with the cheapest.

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QUOTE(nyunyu @ Jul 26 2018, 02:18 PM)
Thanks for the in depth answer. There are definitely plenty to choose from.
Samsung UA65NU8000KXXM - RM6299
Sony KD-65X8500F - RM8399
LG 55SK8000 - RM5927
Sharp LC60UA6800X - RM3499

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Fudge! Where did you see the 65nu8000 for rm6299! I bought mine at Harvey Norman for rm7299. Sigh...
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Fudge! Where did you see the 65nu8000 for rm6299! I bought mine at Harvey Norman for rm7299. Sigh...
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Saw the price at banhuat.com
You're using this model now? What's your review?
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QUOTE(nyunyu @ Jul 27 2018, 07:30 AM)
Saw the price at banhuat.com
You're using this model now? What's your review?
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I like it. I think the picture looks good. It's brighter than my very old Panasonic plasma.

I've watched some 4k videos on YouTube and they are sharp. Don't have the Netflix 4k plan yet.

Don't really watch that much TV but the family's really impressed by the size. 65" is huge!

Wished I knew of Banhuat though. Could have saved a RM1000! bangwall.gif

Oh well, no use crying over spilt milk.


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QUOTE(nyunyu @ Jul 27 2018, 07:30 AM)
Saw the price at banhuat.com
You're using this model now? What's your review?
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I bought my Samsung SUHD UA65KS7500 from Banhuat's online store. Trusted seller! Packed my TV well all the way from Penang to Puchong.

QUOTE(nyunyu @ Jul 25 2018, 03:19 PM)
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Currently I'm using 55" Plasma by LG and while it works without glitch, it is time to upgrade to 4K. Paired with the TV is an Android Box which I use mainly to watch tv, stream videos from Kodi and watch my own movies using Plex app.

I'm looking for a 4K tv that can tick these boxes:
65" and above
HDR
RGB panel not RGBW
full array local dimming
input lag
use in bright area aka living hall
android a plus but not vital
good picture quality
acceptable for console gaming
some support for dolby, dts, DD+, dts-hd
Compatibility with Logitech Harmony Elite

candidate:
LC60UA6800X
Can you recommend more choices?
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FALD? The only models that come to mind are Samsung Q9FN and Sony's X900F/X940F. Those are expensiiiive

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QUOTE(lamusiqa @ Jul 27 2018, 11:02 AM)
I bought my Samsung SUHD UA65KS7500 from Banhuat's online store. Trusted seller! Packed my TV well all the way from Penang to Puchong.
FALD? The only models that come to mind are Samsung Q9FN and Sony's X900F/X940F. Those are expensiiiive
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QUOTE(nyunyu @ Jul 26 2018, 02:18 PM)
Thanks for the in depth answer. There are definitely plenty to choose from.
Samsung UA65NU8000KXXM - RM6299
Sony KD-65X8500F - RM8399
LG 55SK8000 - RM5927
Sharp LC60UA6800X - RM3499

Not necessarily going to look for one which ticks all the criteria but my main criteria would be to find something 65" and above. Not really concerned with the speaker as it will be connected to LG HT.

My main usage with the tv is binge watching tv series, watching movies streamed from my Plex server, watch channels from my android box and play PS4 on it.

I added Sharp in the mix as I saw it has good review and have a good price. Although I would need to literally experience it before making any decision.
From the above, which would you choose? Or do you have any other model that you can suggest? I'm trying to limit my budget to around Rm6k but probably can stretch it to RM8k only if it worth it. If the difference of features between them not too great, might as well go with the cheapest.
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Since you're going to put them in a bright room , you will want a decently bright TV . The NU8000 is the brightest among your list.
The Sony and LG's model are IPS TV , so they can be handy if you have guests gathering around your living room from time to time . But they are not as bright as the NU8000.


Q7FN is a pretty big upgrade over NU8000 , it is an unusually bright and colorful TV which makes it a great performing candidate in a living room. The 65 inches can be a little pricey though . You also mentioned PS4 and watching movie , so you will want to give HDR capabilities of the TV a little consideration.




About the 6800x , I know there are definitely quite some fans of this model .

So I am threading carefully here before they swarm over my inbox like the fanbois from other brands .

6800x is a mid range Sharp TV but they are priced closer to basic 4k TV on the market , which is amazing value since you get WCG ( not as wide as those OLEDs and QLEDs ) , impressive contrast ( as expected from a VA TV ) , a 60 inches screen in one package .

But when compare with other mid range TVs , their performance instantly crumbles .
Notably the complete lack of motion handling ( which was confirmed by the Chinese reviewers ) , the mediocre TV brightness ( its the dimmest TV out of the 4 ) , the lack of Dynamic meta data HDR support ( such as HDR 10 + & Dolby Vision ) , the HDR performance also leave a lot to be desired .

It is something they have to compromise for the unbeatable price .

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tumpang thread since it's somewhat relevant hehe.

I'm thinking of buying SONY KD-49X7000F 49" for the following reasons:
- one of the cheapest 4K TV
- have 3x HDMI (1 for HyppTV, 1 for Chromecast, 1 extra)
- X-Reality PRO (macam yes from demo unit)

Just gonna use this TV for normal HyppTV watching, 4K movies/Netflix, and gaming (Nintendo Switch + PS4). I'm ok with this not being an AndroidTV since I can buy Chromecast and make it a smart TV haha.

So far I've found the cheapest on Lazada, RM2258:
https://www.lazada.com.my/products/sony-kd-...FvZASw&search=1

Or buy with Senheng (RM150 voucher) via 11street for RM2249:
https://www.11street.my/productdetail/sony-...tv-sny-66338639

Dear sifu and experts sekalian, wat's your verdict and opinion on this SONY X70F? Worth to buy ma? My budget is below RM2.5K for 4K TV smile.gif
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Don't buy a TV because it is cheap , unless you don't care about it and just want a screen to watch .
It is important you at least have an expectation what you are buying.


I think X7000F is a pretty neat basic 4K TV . And as usual with Sony TVs , you get great motion handling and picture processing , great input lag.
Not having an Android OS is a plus for Sony TVs , their input lag is usually a little on the high side compare with other brands .

Just know that this is an IPS TV , so you know why you are getting it.
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You mean the X940E  , X940F doesn't exist yet.
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Ahh yes. You're right. I meant to say X940E.

For those who are looking to buy quantum dot TVs for cheap (same tech and popping colours as QLED), I recommend scouting for Samsung's 2016 SUHD line. Excellent brightness, good wide colour gamut performance, low input lag and the prices should be a lot cheaper now. Gaming in HDR on 'Ultra HD Premium' certified TVs really brings out the HDR impact.

The last one I saw was a UA65KS7500 unit at ESH Main Place Mall Subang Jaya for under RM7400. I have this TV and I highly recommend this model. It is even brighter, has wider colour gamut and higher contrast ratio than the latest Samsung 2018 NU8500!

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QUOTE(Convael @ Jul 27 2018, 12:15 PM)
You mean the X940E  , X940F doesn't exist yet.
Since you're going to put them in a bright room , you will want a decently bright TV . The NU8000 is the brightest among your list.
The Sony and LG's model are IPS TV , so they can be handy if you have guests gathering around your living room from time to time . But they are not as bright as the NU8000.
Q7FN is a pretty big upgrade over NU8000  , it is an unusually bright and colorful TV which makes it a great performing candidate in a living room. The 65 inches can be a little pricey though . You also mentioned PS4 and watching movie , so you will want to give HDR capabilities of the TV a little consideration.
About the 6800x , I know there are definitely quite some fans of this model .

So I am threading carefully here before they swarm over my inbox like the fanbois from other brands .

6800x is a mid range Sharp TV but they are priced closer to basic 4k TV on the market  , which is amazing value since you get WCG ( not as wide as those OLEDs and QLEDs ) , impressive contrast ( as expected from a VA TV ) , a 60 inches screen in one package .

But when compare with other mid range TVs , their performance instantly crumbles .
Notably the complete lack of motion handling ( which was confirmed by the Chinese reviewers ) , the mediocre TV brightness ( its the dimmest TV out of the 4 ) , the lack of Dynamic meta data HDR support ( such as HDR 10 + &  Dolby Vision )  , the HDR performance also leave a lot to be desired .

It is something they have to compromise for the unbeatable price .
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QUOTE(lamusiqa @ Jul 27 2018, 03:53 PM)
Ahh yes. You're right. I meant to say X940E.

For those who are looking to buy quantum dot TVs for cheap (same tech and popping colours as QLED), I recommend scouting for Samsung's 2016 SUHD line. Excellent brightness, good wide colour gamut performance, low input lag and the prices should be a lot cheaper now. Gaming in HDR on 'Ultra HD Premium' certified TVs really brings out the HDR impact.

The last one I saw was a UA65KS7500 unit at ESH Main Place Mall Subang Jaya for under RM7400. I have this TV and I highly recommend this model. It is even brighter, has wider colour gamut and higher contrast ratio than the latest Samsung 2018 NU8500!
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The KS series from 2016 are indeed spectacular TVs , it is just pathetic Samsung keep removing the features from current line up & put them on separate models to sell for higher price .


NU8500 is basically the curved version of NU8000 .

I don't think they are comparable with the KS series because NU8500 / NU8000 isn't a Quantum Dots TV.
If we have to compare , the KS7500 should go head to head with Q7FN , in which the Q7FN is an upgrade in almost everything especially the brightness .

55' of NU8000 is retailing @ RM4199, 65 inches @ RM6299 , that is still quite a bit cheaper than the now 2 years old KS7500 .


The KS series are definitely a looker especially when it comes to HDR performance. They can reach very high peak brightness in small windows , which ensure those shiny small highlights to glitter in dark HDR scenes. While the NU8000 can't reach the same peak brightness but it is overall , a brighter TV .

The one small problem with the KS series is , they can't sustain the same level of brightness they used to display specular highlights . It is mostly a glimpse into the spark and the brightness quickly fall flat on screen . NU8000 and newer QLEDs can maintain the same brightness level for a long time. This is especially noticeable in prolong HDR scenes with bright objects like the torches , the sun , the moon , the stars etc etc .


I've mentioned before Samsung is dropping the ball for their entry~mid range models every year . KS series is a lot more impressive than the 2017's MU series . The 2018 's entry level models of the NU series are disappointing as well.

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http://www.goshop.com.my/prd/20063230.html

I am leaning on this one at the moment. Anyone can advise if this is OK? Would have gotten for a better one but I got several things going kaput around the same time, so a bit short on budget. Is this TV OK?
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top up a bit go for LG
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top up a bit go for LG
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http://www.goshop.com.my/prd/20064714.html

This OK?

Although the one sold on Goshop seems to come with a 2 year warranty while the ones on Lazada, Shopee etc is with 3 years
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QUOTE(air_mood @ Jul 29 2018, 08:56 PM)
http://www.goshop.com.my/prd/20064714.html

This OK?

Although the one sold on Goshop seems to come with a 2 year warranty while the ones on Lazada, Shopee etc is with 3 years
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M5010 series is better. 50†rm1899 while 55†is rm2100. Got rm100 voucher in 11street.
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M5010 series is better. 50†rm1899 while 55†is rm2100. Got rm100 voucher in 11street.
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I can't seem to find one at those prices. Am I missing something?
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I can't seem to find one at those prices. Am I missing something?
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https://www.11street.my/product/ProductDeta...rom=cart%5Elist
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Ahh that one. Is there any major difference between the N3000 and the M5010?
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Ahh that one. Is there any major difference between the N3000 and the M5010?
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I not sure how Hisense quality but suggest don't get N3000 as this model don't have HDR support.
M5010 wise came with HDR support.

N3000 - No HDR support - https://hisense.co.za/product/50-uhd-smart-n3000-50n3000uw
M5010 - HDR support - https://hisense.co.za/product/55-uhd-smart-m5010-55m5010uw

No point getting a 4K TV without HDR support.

HDR is the main thing that make you wow in how great the new generation TV, it is nothing much for 4K resolution itself only.
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Jul 30 2018, 12:23 AM)
I not sure how Hisense quality but suggest don't get N3000 as this model don't have HDR support.
M5010 wise came with HDR support.

N3000 - No HDR support - https://hisense.co.za/product/50-uhd-smart-n3000-50n3000uw
M5010 - HDR support - https://hisense.co.za/product/55-uhd-smart-m5010-55m5010uw

No point getting a 4K TV without HDR support.

HDR is the main thing that make you wow in how great the new generation TV, it is nothing much for 4K resolution itself only.
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http://www.hisense.com.my/product/n3000/

Wait, it says HDR here. Or is it not the same?

The HDR column on the M5010 is a bit expanded though.

https://www.hisense.com.my/product/m5010/
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http://www.hisense.com.my/product/n3000/

Wait, it says HDR here. Or is it not the same?

The HDR column on the M5010 is a bit expanded though.

https://www.hisense.com.my/product/m5010/
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I worried it is wrong information as it only show in specification but not the introduction page.
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I'll research a bit. I'm a bit blur on buying TV to be honest. It's been quite a while since I needed to buy one. Hahaha.
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if u hv not bought a tv for a long time, u do need to check a bit more! biggrin.gif

the most impt thing is what u use the tv for.

if u r tight on budget and have no need for "advanced" features, <rm2000 for <50" will be alright.

but if u plan to do more in the near future, it will be better to spend a bit more, future proof it a bit.


hisense is no longer a tiny brand - they are quite popular in north america now.

hdr is necessary if u r watching netflix 4k or playing back 2160p hdr videos.

but if u r just using astro, hypptv, 1080p bluray or common apps, there is no big need for HDR.


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Looking for another TV, and this sony x7000f is out, any review on this entry level tv?
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https://www.11street.my/productdetail/haier...led-tv-60731471

any difference between haier and hisense? friend is looking for a budget 4k tv also
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Samsung NU7100
Sony X7000f

Both 55" 2018 model, less then rm3000

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At this price range , HDR really shouldn't be a concern .


TVs within this price range just don't have specs to be classified as "HDR TV" , despite of the brands' claims.

Especially when we consider HDR mastered content are normally dimmer than SDR , if the TV lacks the brightness to show off the HDR highlights the pictures will appear washed out. The UHD Alliance sets the 1000 cd/m2 requirement for HDR for a reason.


If you just want to get a 4k TV & save some money , there are plenty of basic 4k models to choose from . Just pick one you can find cheapest.

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 30 2018, 10:14 AM)
if u hv not bought a tv for a long time, u do need to check a bit more! biggrin.gif

the most impt thing is what u use the tv for.

if u r tight on budget and have no need for "advanced" features, <rm2000 for <50" will be alright.

but if u plan to do more in the near future, it will be better to spend a bit more, future proof it a bit.
hisense is no longer a tiny brand - they are quite popular in north america now.

hdr is necessary if u r watching netflix 4k or playing back 2160p hdr videos.

but if u r just using astro, hypptv, 1080p bluray or common apps, there is no big need for HDR.
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Last one I got was free one 48" Samsung LED Smart TV off an office family day lucky draw. So I did not buy that one. That was the TV that went kaput. My actual plan is getting a TV for now. When current situation betters itself, is to get a better TV for the hall and stick the one I'm buying now in my room.

I was leaning on the N3000 because reading the reviews apparently it has HDR and is also a smart TV. Was initially just planning to get the Haier as that was even cheaper.

On what I use the TV for. I currently have Astro, PS4(not Pro) and my PC connected via the HDMI ports on my TV.
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Last one I got was free one 48" Samsung LED Smart TV off an office family day lucky draw. So I did not buy that one. That was the TV that went kaput. My actual plan is getting a TV for now. When current situation betters itself, is to get a better TV for the hall and stick the one I'm buying now in my room.

I was leaning on the N3000 because reading the reviews apparently it has HDR and is also a smart TV. Was initially just planning to get the Haier as that was even cheaper.

On what I use the TV for. I currently have Astro, PS4(not Pro) and my PC connected via the HDMI ports on my TV.
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For what u use and plan to get yet another one, i see no need to spend too much.

If u spend too much, get great tv but dun use the key features... wasted.

Better get an inexpensive one now, save a bit for the next n better.

Just walk the shops, see how astro comes out, u have an idea.

About "smart tv"... there r many types, diff brands use diff platforms, quite diff.

Best to know what which smart thing can do what n if u will use it... if not, wasted again...

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For what u use and plan to get yet another one, i see no need to spend too much.

If u spend too much, get great tv but dun use the key features... wasted.

Better get an inexpensive one now, save a bit for the next n better.

Just walk the shops, see how astro comes out, u have an idea.

About "smart tv"... there r many types, diff brands use diff platforms, quite diff.

Best to know what which smart thing can do what n if u will use it... if not, wasted again...
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On Smart TV, I would say the main intention is to maybe use Netflix and Youtube. That was what put me off the Haier, as it has not smart TV features.

On the usage I mentioned, does these ones looks like it will suffice to you. Am planning to get s PS4 Pro at some point too.

http://www.goshop.com.my/prd/20063230.html

http://www.goshop.com.my/prd/20064714.html

http://www.goshop.com.my/prd/20064719.html

Same model, different sizes.

Or are they different ones more advisable to go for?

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tumpang thread pls.. for basic 5" 4k tv.. wanted to get 1 before SST shoot in. So probably will buy 1 at merdeka sales. Now want to choose between these 3 models. prior criteria is picture quality. which 1 is the best or better among these 3 models ya??

Sony 55X7000F
Samsung 55NU7100
LG 55UK6300PTE
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QUOTE(Convael @ Jul 28 2018, 06:34 PM)
The KS series from 2016 are indeed spectacular TVs , it is just pathetic Samsung keep removing the features from current line up & put them on separate models to sell for higher price  .
NU8500 is basically the curved version of NU8000 .

I don't think they are comparable with the KS series  because NU8500 / NU8000 isn't a Quantum Dots TV.
If we have to compare , the KS7500 should go head to head with Q7FN , in which the Q7FN is an upgrade in almost everything especially the brightness .

55' of NU8000 is retailing @ RM4199, 65 inches @ RM6299 , that is still quite a bit cheaper than the now 2 years old KS7500 .
The KS series are definitely a looker especially when it comes to HDR performance. They can reach very high peak brightness in small windows , which ensure those shiny small highlights to glitter in dark HDR scenes. While the NU8000 can't reach the same peak brightness but it is overall , a brighter TV  .

The one small problem with the KS series is , they can't sustain the same level of brightness they used to display specular highlights . It is mostly a glimpse into the spark and the brightness quickly fall flat on screen . NU8000 and newer QLEDs can maintain the same brightness level for a long time. This is especially noticeable in prolong HDR scenes with bright objects like the torches , the sun ,  the moon , the stars etc etc .
I've mentioned before Samsung is dropping the ball for their entry~mid range models every year . KS series is a lot more impressive than the 2017's MU series . The 2018 's entry level models of the NU series are disappointing as well.
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Where to get that NU8000 at rm4,199?
Checked Senheng it show rm4,799 but good thing is longer instalments

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Where to get that NU8000 at rm4,199?
Checked Senheng it show rm4,799 but good thing is longer instalments
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tumpang thread pls.. for basic 5" 4k tv.. wanted to get 1 before SST shoot in. So probably will buy 1 at merdeka sales. Now want to choose between these 3 models. prior criteria is picture quality. which 1 is the best or better among these 3 models ya??

Sony 55X7000F
Samsung 55NU7100
LG 55UK6300PTE
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Easy math isn't it ?

Remove the RGBW (LG ) then you are left with a Sony IPS & Samsung VA .
Which one to go will depend on your room condition and seat position .
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QUOTE(air_mood @ Jul 30 2018, 12:54 PM)
On Smart TV, I would say the main intention is to maybe use Netflix and Youtube. That was what put me off the Haier, as it has not smart TV features.
On the usage I mentioned, does these ones looks like it will suffice to you. Am planning to get s PS4 Pro at some point too.
http://www.goshop.com.my/prd/20063230.html
http://www.goshop.com.my/prd/20064714.html
http://www.goshop.com.my/prd/20064719.html
Same model, different sizes.
Or are they different ones more advisable to go for?
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yes, same model, diff size.

typically, bigger size ones have 1 more hdmi input, so u gotta decide if 3 is enough or u need 4.
usb... all hv 2.
component input yes, but no rs232 (outdated)
runs on own vidaa smart platform.
(note hisense is also an oem - sell other tv's under hisense brand in some countries... do not confuse the reviews or comments about these ones.)

i have no experience with hisense but i read fair reviews and comments on this model for its price.
https://www.google.com.my/search?ei=nqJeW5v.....0.CcmDML4mHQs
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4009313
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3873180

frankly, u gotta visit the shops and see them physically.
check where in inputs are located, the stand, audio, the dimensions, etc.
if all satisfied, can buy online.

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avoid sony KD55X7000E. me bought early July 2018, screen already kong last week. call SC next saturday will come to check.
me use sony KDL40W65D still good after 3 year.
sister use KDL55W65D after 2 year still good.
just personnel view avoid x7000e series with LCD 55 and above.

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QUOTE(cooyard @ Jul 30 2018, 03:08 PM)
avoid sony KD55X7000E. me bought early July 2018, screen already kong last week. call SC next saturday will come to check.
me use sony KDL40W65D still good after 3 year.
sister use KDL55W65D after 2 year still good.
just personnel view avoid x7000e series with LCD 55 and above.
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Oh man now you're making me worried. Im using the 65" x7000E. Bought it from 11street.

Would encourage to use the rm150 - rm200 coupons they provide for high value items
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 30 2018, 01:32 PM)
yes, same model, diff size.

typically, bigger size ones have 1 more hdmi input, so u gotta decide if 3 is enough or u need 4.
usb... all hv 2.
component input yes, but no rs232 (outdated)
runs on own vidaa smart platform.
(note hisense is also an oem - sell other tv's under hisense brand in some countries... do not confuse the reviews or comments about these ones.)

i have no experience with hisense but i read fair reviews and comments on this model for its price.
https://www.google.com.my/search?ei=nqJeW5v.....0.CcmDML4mHQs
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4009313
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3873180

frankly, u gotta visit the shops and see them physically.
check where in inputs are located, the stand, audio, the dimensions, etc.
if all satisfied, can buy online.
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https://www.hisense.com.my/product/n3000/

This one has pictures of the input. Generally, I would prefer if the inputs are on the right, but I guess I'll make do. Maybe buy a longer HDMI cable or something. Looks like I'm going to take the plunge with this TV. Just a question of which size now. Hahaha.
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https://www.hisense.com.my/product/n3000/

This one has pictures of the input. Generally, I would prefer if the inputs are on the right, but I guess I'll make do. Maybe buy a longer HDMI cable or something. Looks like I'm going to take the plunge with this TV. Just a question of which size now. Hahaha.
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http://www.hisense.com.my/product/m5010/

m5010 looks good, support local dimming at this price

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QUOTE(Convael @ Jul 30 2018, 01:22 PM)
Banhuat offer instalments?
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https://www.hisense.com.my/product/n3000/

This one has pictures of the input. Generally, I would prefer if the inputs are on the right, but I guess I'll make do. Maybe buy a longer HDMI cable or something. Looks like I'm going to take the plunge with this TV. Just a question of which size now. Hahaha.
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i still think u shud visit the shops and take a look... maybe u dun like the plastic or the colors or...?!! biggrin.gif

yes, make estimates... how long should the hdmi cables be... 1, 1.5, 2m...

lastly, just like to say... we have so many things to buy new all the time.

tv is just one item... gotta buy handphone, tablet, pc, laptop, android box, home theater, cables, adaptors... @#$%!!

unless u r so dem rich to pay for the best of the best, avantgarde for everything, it's alright to get a low price entry level tv.

more so when u have not bot one in years.

when u r clear what u want in the near future, u can burn a fortune on the next buy. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Convael @ Jul 30 2018, 01:22 PM)
Just sharing for those wondering if Harvey Norman will match Banhuat's prices, they won't.

They don't match online prices. Only retail prices (best to have a picture of the item's price). But if they do match it, they'll even throw in an additional 10% discount.

At least that's what the salesperson told me.
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http://www.hisense.com.my/product/m5010/

m5010 looks good, support local dimming at this price
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unfortunately it is 10 zone only. u7a support 16 zone and cost RM2800.
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https://www.11street.my/productdetail/skywo...-years-55666454

Saw this on 11street. With a 5 year warranty. Anyone has any experience with Skyworths? Or is this worse than the N3000?

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QUOTE(Convael @ Jul 30 2018, 01:26 PM)
Easy math isn't it ?

Remove the RGBW (LG ) then you are left with a Sony IPS & Samsung VA .
Which one to go will depend on your room condition and seat position .
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Just know there is another model of Samsung 55NU7400 which offer 1700 PQI while NU7100 is only 1300.. is this make a noticeable different when we r watching on this 2 models? btw, cant find the PQI info at the Sony website. and 1 more different is the motionflow rate.. Samsung 100 and Sony 200.. is this much different when we r watching 4k action movie?
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I think I'm just gonna go with the M5010.

https://www.11street.my/productdetail/hisen...7719?recopick=4

Anyone has any experience with this seller?

Or are there better offers somewhere else I can find?
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Don't buy a TV because it is cheap , unless you don't care about it and just want a screen to watch .
It is important you at least have an expectation what you are buying.
I think X7000F is a pretty neat basic 4K TV .  And as usual with Sony TVs , you get great motion handling and picture processing  , great input lag.
Not having an Android OS is a plus for Sony TVs , their input lag is usually a little on the high side compare with other brands .

Just know that this is an IPS TV , so you know why you are getting it.
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Hi bro, thanks for the advice! Unfortunately I don't have a lot budget for TV already, recently just bought a Nintendo Switch haha. Just looking for an entry & basic 4K TV that can watch HD movies, stream Netflix, and play Nintendo Switch then ok liao.

I'm currently still using the ancient Samsung CRT TV sweat.gif

That being said, since I'll be using this TV in my living room, IPS seems like the recommended choice? However, I do off my lights when I watch movies... is the grey-ish black really that obvious?

QUOTE(cooyard @ Jul 30 2018, 03:08 PM)
avoid sony KD55X7000E. me bought early July 2018, screen already kong last week. call SC next saturday will come to check.
me use sony KDL40W65D still good after 3 year.
sister use KDL55W65D after 2 year still good.
just personnel view avoid x7000e series with LCD 55 and above.
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Hey bro, me planning to buy SONY KD-49X7000F, although your screen kong there's warranty for it right?

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Banhuat offer instalments?
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A while ago they had installment with interest charges up to 12% .
But I am unsure now , best if you give them a call to confirm.


QUOTE(underscore_lee @ Jul 30 2018, 11:32 PM)
Hi bro, thanks for the advice! Unfortunately I don't have a lot budget for TV already, recently just bought a Nintendo Switch haha. Just looking for an entry & basic 4K TV that can watch HD movies, stream Netflix, and play Nintendo Switch then ok liao.

I'm currently still using the ancient Samsung CRT TV  sweat.gif

That being said, since I'll be using this TV in my living room, IPS seems like the recommended choice? However, I do off my lights when I watch movies... is the grey-ish black really that obvious?
Hey bro, me planning to buy SONY KD-49X7000F, although your screen kong there's warranty for it right?
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Yea IPS TVs usually have terrible black levels in dark / dimmer room .

So just put on some lights , the ambient lights mask the grayish black really well , that's why its hard to tell the TV aparts in those showroom and shop displays .
Judging from your usage , the XF70 (x7000f) will serve you well.


QUOTE(cooyard @ Jul 30 2018, 03:08 PM)
avoid sony KD55X7000E. me bought early July 2018, screen already kong last week. call SC next saturday will come to check.
me use sony KDL40W65D still good after 3 year.
sister use KDL55W65D after 2 year still good.
just personnel view avoid x7000e series with LCD 55 and above.
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QUOTE(DWExia @ Jul 30 2018, 03:26 PM)
Oh man now you're making me worried. Im using the 65" x7000E. Bought it from 11street.

Would encourage to use the rm150 - rm200 coupons they provide for high value items
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Sorry to hear about that , when you got a defected or a broken TV it is frustrating . Makes you question your purchase decision.

But let's look at the brighter side , at least you are buying from the major brands & they are willing to repair / replace your TV normally.

I probably have recommended this particular model to hundreds of people , so far only a few of them are unsatisfied ( mostly nothing to do with malfunctioning units )
When you buy from the bigger brands , it doesn't mean all their units will be perfect. It just means they usually have better QC and the odds of defects are relatively lower .




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But I am unsure now , best if you give them a call to confirm
Yea IPS tv usually have terrible black levels , in dark room .

So just put on some lights , the ambient lights mask the grayish black really well  , that's why its hard to tell the TV aparts in those showroom and shop displays .

Judging from your usage , the XF70 (x7000f) will serve you well
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Alright, will take the leap of faith and give this XF70 a try. Hopefully the black levels won't annoy me that much as I tend to watch some horror movies where it's mostly dark background lol. Will buy from Senheng @ 11street.my, cheapest so far for RM2250.

Then maybe next few years can kumpul money buy a better 4K TV haha (or maybe future is 8K liao?) biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(underscore_lee @ Jul 31 2018, 12:38 AM)
Alright, will take the leap of faith and give this XF70 a try. Hopefully the black levels won't annoy me that much as I tend to watch some horror movies where it's mostly dark background lol. Will buy from Senheng @ 11street.my, cheapest so far for RM2250.

Then maybe next few years can kumpul money buy a better 4K TV haha (or maybe future is 8K liao?) biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Convael @ Jul 31 2018, 12:36 AM)
A while ago they had installment with interest charges up to 12% .
But I am unsure now , best if you give them a call to confirm.
Yea IPS TVs usually have terrible black levels in dark / dimmer room .

So just put on some lights , the ambient lights mask the grayish black really well  , that's why its hard to tell the TV aparts in those showroom and shop displays .
Judging from your usage , the XF70 (x7000f) will serve you well.
Sorry to hear about that , when you got a defected or a broken TV it is frustrating . Makes you question your purchase decision.

But let's look at the brighter side , at least you are buying from the major brands & they are willing to repair / replace your TV normally.

I probably have recommended this particular model to hundreds of people , so far only a few of them are unsatisfied ( mostly nothing to do with malfunctioning units )
When you buy from the bigger brands , it doesn't mean all their units will be perfect.  It just means they usually have better QC and the odds of defects are relatively lower .
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Bought nu8000 at my local senheng as they have promo package with a power stick v60 model and 10% cash back

Gotta wait for stock come in around mid August

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unfortunately it is 10 zone only. u7a support 16 zone and cost RM2800.
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Oh really? Not bad leh, other brands at this price also cant get local dimming.

i just got nu7100, and planning to get another tv for my work station. Probably will go with hisense then
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Where is this for 2800?

I've only seen the M5010 for 2092 in 11street from that seller I just asked about and 2160 on Desa Home on shopee. Problem is there's no installment with Shopee.
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QUOTE(underscore_lee @ Jul 31 2018, 12:32 AM)
Hi bro, thanks for the advice! Unfortunately I don't have a lot budget for TV already, recently just bought a Nintendo Switch haha. Just looking for an entry & basic 4K TV that can watch HD movies, stream Netflix, and play Nintendo Switch then ok liao.

I'm currently still using the ancient Samsung CRT TV  sweat.gif

That being said, since I'll be using this TV in my living room, IPS seems like the recommended choice? However, I do off my lights when I watch movies... is the grey-ish black really that obvious?
Hey bro, me planning to buy SONY KD-49X7000F, although your screen kong there's warranty for it right?
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QUOTE(DWExia @ Jul 30 2018, 04:26 PM)
Oh man now you're making me worried. Im using the 65" x7000E. Bought it from 11street.

Would encourage to use the rm150 - rm200 coupons they provide for high value items
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No worried if buy already. Sony good at after sale service.
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QUOTE(TongCN @ Jul 31 2018, 07:39 AM)
Bought nu8000 at my local senheng as they have promo package with a power stick v60 model and 10% cash back

Gotta wait for stock come in around mid August
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How much though net of cash back? And what's a power stick if you don't mind me asking sweat.gif
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QUOTE(air_mood @ Jul 31 2018, 10:19 AM)
Where is this for 2800?

I've only seen the M5010 for 2092 in 11street from that seller I just asked about and 2160 on Desa Home on shopee. Problem is there's no installment with Shopee.
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U7A for rm2800 need to go shop like Suria in Kedah
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Guess I'm going for the M5010 then. Anyone located better deals than the links I posted?
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How much though net of cash back? And what's a power stick if you don't mind me asking  sweat.gif
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Selling RM7,209

So i get RM720.90 worth of EZ credit (10%) which can buy additional things

Powerstick is the VS6015 model (2016/2017)


If i can sell the powerstick with RM500~600, still worth it biggrin.gif
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Done. Got the 55†M5010 from Desa Home Theater for RM2150. Bought the additional 2 year warrant so has 5 years warranty.
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Done. Got the 55†M5010 from Desa Home Theater for RM2150. Bought the additional 2 year warrant so has 5 years warranty.
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congrats.

don't forget to write a review in the hisense thread when ready.

other buyers will surely like to know!
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QUOTE(air_mood @ Jul 31 2018, 09:06 PM)
Done. Got the 55†M5010 from Desa Home Theater for RM2150. Bought the additional 2 year warrant so has 5 years warranty.
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Since you bought from shop, I am sure you check all TV on display. what makes you bought M5010?
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Since you bought from shop, I am sure you check all TV on display. what makes you bought M5010?
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The features for that price range. The N3000 was placed next to the M5010 too, major difference in display detail.

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double post

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QUOTE(air_mood @ Jul 31 2018, 09:06 PM)
Done. Got the 55†M5010 from Desa Home Theater for RM2150. Bought the additional 2 year warrant so has 5 years warranty.
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2150 included what ya bro?
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2150 included what ya bro?
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Just the TV with a 3 year warranty. I paid additional 229 for the 2 year extended warranty. Also asked him for a free wall mount. Hahaha.
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 31 2018, 10:32 PM)
congrats.

don't forget to write a review in the hisense thread when ready.

other buyers will surely like to know!
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Will do bro. Much appreciated for all the inputs previously.
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Just the TV with a 3 year warranty. I paid additional 229 for the 2 year extended warranty. Also asked him for a free wall mount. Hahaha.
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Cool rclxms.gif

Btw they give u this price straigth away or hav to bargain 1?
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Cool  rclxms.gif

Btw they give u this price straigth away or hav to bargain 1?
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Listed price was 2199, then he checked on Shopee they listed 2160, ended up giving me 2150. That's inclusive of courier should you choose to have it couriered.
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QUOTE(air_mood @ Aug 1 2018, 12:56 PM)
Listed price was 2199, then he checked on Shopee they listed 2160, ended up giving me 2150. That's inclusive of courier should you choose to have it couriered.
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is it worth to buy 55' X85F?

I'm still dilema to buy x75f or x85f. price diff are quite big.

55 x75f can get 3.2k~
55 x85f can get around 5.6k~

2k diff is alot
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between LC60UA6800X and UA55NU8000, which is one is better. For movie, youtube only. Thanks
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It is pretty pointless to ask , the NU8000 is quite a bit more expensive than the 6800x .


QUOTE(fuadfadz @ Aug 3 2018, 05:17 PM)
is it worth to buy 55' X85F?

I'm still dilema to buy x75f or x85f. price diff are quite big.

55 x75f can get 3.2k~
55 x85f can get around 5.6k~

2k diff is alot
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I really wouldn't recommend anyone getting the XF85 until the price drops tremendously.
Very poor HDR performing TV in general , which is hot topic these days.


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Hi sifu, need suggestion here, I got offer for Sony 43" X75F (Singapore set) @ ~RM1.5k

Worth to bear the risk (as Warranty from Sony Singapore)

* plan to use as a bedroom TV (1.5m - 2m viewing distance)
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QUOTE(Captain'z @ Aug 4 2018, 06:44 PM)
Hi sifu, need suggestion here, I got offer for Sony 43" X75F (Singapore set) @ ~RM1.5k

Worth to bear the risk (as Warranty from Sony Singapore)

* plan to use as a bedroom TV (1.5m - 2m viewing distance)
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QUOTE(Captain'z @ Aug 4 2018, 06:44 PM)
Hi sifu, need suggestion here, I got offer for Sony 43" X75F (Singapore set) @ ~RM1.5k

Worth to bear the risk (as Warranty from Sony Singapore)

* plan to use as a bedroom TV (1.5m - 2m viewing distance)
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We normally recommend people to get a VA TV for bedroom as the environment is usually dimmer and dark , and the bed normally is placed directly in front of screen so wide viewing angles isn't as crucial as , say A living room TV.

The model you mentioned is an IPS TV , if you insist to get it put on some lights in the bedroom as ambient lights from external light source will mask the poor contrast levels of the IPS TV really well.
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Nice thread! I am looking for a budget TV too.
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just ordered a Sony 65" X7000F for RM4050.
by far the cheapest i ever seen in Penang and i kinda have doubts on why this particular shop can manage to go so low.

Anyway, set arriving tomorrow and we shall see.


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Hi. Is it really true for a 4K HDR 49" vs 55" got huge difference even though only by 5"?

Hope can enlighten. Thanks.
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Hi. Is it really true for a 4K HDR 49" vs 55" got huge difference even though only by 5"?

Hope can enlighten. Thanks.
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Hi. Is it really true for a 4K HDR 49" vs 55" got huge difference even though only by 5"?

Hope can enlighten. Thanks.
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Unless we are talking about some of those high end TV with full array local dimming system , there shouldn't be any major difference in picture quality.

It is more of a matter of how big your room is and how far you sit away from the screen.
For the bigger screen , you have more flexibility to adjust the distance of your seat from the TV.






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good stuff there.
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Any reviews on TCL TVs? Saw LAZADA selling them. Online reviews rate them quite high but cant seem to find the same models. Not sure if they are the same but using a different model name to sell in this region.
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I saw there is Smart TV and Android TV in the market. Which one is actually better?
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Have been reading a couple thread & still don't know which TV to buy. Anyone can tell +/- and recommend between these model.

Panasonic 49EX600
Sharp 50UA6800X
Samsung 49NU7100
Sony 49X7000F
Hisense 50M5010

All price not far from each other, difference around Rm300.

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Any reviews on TCL TVs? Saw LAZADA selling them. Online reviews rate them quite high but cant seem to find the same models. Not sure if they are the same but using a different model name to sell in this region.
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They are completely different , TCL TV USA has their very own R&D , they don't share with the other region outside of USA.
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just ordered a Sony 65" X7000F for RM4050.
by far the cheapest i ever seen in Penang and i kinda have doubts on why this particular shop can manage to go so low.

Anyway, set arriving tomorrow and we shall see.
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I saw there is Smart TV and Android TV in the market. Which one is actually better?
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smart tv = connected to internet.

every brand use their own smart platform.

(note even for 1 brand, the "smart tv" features may be different for diff models.)

all 4k smart tv's have youtube and netflix.

sony, sharp have androidtv.

if u only want youtube and netflix, all will be fine.

if u want astrogo, only new LG, sony and sharp can do.

if u want to sideload other apps incl unifi playtv, only androidtv can do.


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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Aug 11 2018, 10:52 AM)
smart tv = connected to internet.

every brand use their own smart platform.

(note even for 1 brand, the "smart tv" features may be different for diff models.)

all 4k smart tv's have youtube and netflix.

sony, sharp have androidtv.

if u only want youtube and netflix, all will be fine.

if u want astrogo, only new LG, sony and sharp can do.

if u want to sideload other apps incl unifi playtv, only androidtv can do.
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I think smart TV not important. Because most of us have Apple TV 4k or Android TV. Most important is picture quality and ability to support Dolby Vision
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like it or not, all good TV's are now smart or very smart.

you can't get the best tv that is dumb.

Androidtv... if u have a good box, u may not want it.

if u have a box that can't do astrogo, unifi playtv and others and u want them, androidtv will do that.

Dolby vision is still very and new - u pay a premium for that feature.

and this thread is "4k tv under rm3k" - where can u find dolby vision for that price?! biggrin.gif




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LG 49SJ800T......with dolby vision....RM2,799.00 & RM2,797.00

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LG 49SJ800T......with dolby vision....RM2,799.00 & RM2,797.00
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LG 49SJ800T......with dolby vision....RM2,799.00 & RM2,797.00
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How is this LG tv? Is this also having the rgbw panel?
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How is this LG tv? Is this also having the rgbw panel?
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QUOTE(mazannor81 @ Aug 10 2018, 09:34 PM)
Have been reading a couple thread & still don't know which TV to buy. Anyone can tell +/- and recommend between these model.

Panasonic 49EX600
Sharp 50UA6800X
Samsung 49NU7100
Sony 49X7000F
Hisense 50M5010

All price not far from each other, difference around Rm300.
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The first thing you need to decide , is between VA or IPS.

The Panasonic and Sony are IPS while the rest are VA.

For brighter and bigger room , we normally recommend people to buy an IPS .
For dimmer and bedrooms , go for VA.


At this price point , they aren't going to make a day and night difference .

The Sharp model is an Android TV which has wider color gamut but without the better motion handling features.

Panasonic TVs always have amazing out of box color accuracy because that is the principle of their brands , which is great because people don't hire calibrator for their TVs of this price range.

The Samsung model has amazing contrast as usual but it is short of a few features (like smart remote control) this year.

Sony's TV has great picture processing features and I find XF7000 to be slightly brighter than last year X7000E , which is a good deal.

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QUOTE(berrycoo~ @ Jun 13 2018, 07:20 PM)
Hi, looking to buy a 4k tv mainly to play ps4 pro and watch some videos (non-4k) with budget RM3k. Currently looking at:

Sony
KD55x7000e ~RM2.6k
KD49x8000e ~RM3k

Samsung
UA55MU6100 ~RM2.7k
UA50NU7400 ~RM3k

LG
55UJ630t ~RM2.4k
49SJ800t ~RM3k

Which one should I go for? Also is it worth going for wcg ie 49SJ800t/KD49x8000e/UA50NU7400 but with smaller screen size? Is it worth to get smaller screen size + wcg for the PQ difference?
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i got 55 inch NU7400 for 2.8k smile.gif

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QUOTE(Convael @ Aug 12 2018, 01:37 AM)
Nope , it is a RGB TV
The first thing you need to decide , is between VA or IPS.

The Panasonic and Sony are IPS while the rest are VA.

For brighter and bigger room , we normally recommend people to buy an IPS .
For dimmer and bedrooms , go for VA.
At this price point , they aren't going to make a day and night difference .

The Sharp model is an Android TV which has wider color gamut but without the better motion handling features.

Panasonic TVs always have amazing out of box color accuracy because that is the principle of their brands , which is great because people don't hire calibrator for their TVs of this price range.

The Samsung model has amazing contrast as usual but it is short of a few features (like smart remote control) this year.

Sony's TV has great picture processing features and I find XF7000 to be slightly brighter than last year X7000E , which is a good deal.
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In fact i am having some choices in my head

LG 49SJ800T
Samsung 55NU7100
Sony 55X7000F

Yup. I understand there are size differences and also the year of release. However i am attracted with the nano cell which caugh my eyes.

Since 3 of them now having around the same price range, hence i put them together in the list.
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QUOTE(Convael @ Aug 12 2018, 01:37 AM)
Nope , it is a RGB TV
The first thing you need to decide , is between VA or IPS.

The Panasonic and Sony are IPS while the rest are VA.

For brighter and bigger room , we normally recommend people to buy an IPS .
For dimmer and bedrooms , go for VA.
At this price point , they aren't going to make a day and night difference .

The Sharp model is an Android TV which has wider color gamut but without the better motion handling features.

Panasonic TVs always have amazing out of box color accuracy because that is the principle of their brands , which is great because people don't hire calibrator for their TVs of this price range.

The Samsung model has amazing contrast as usual but it is short of a few features (like smart remote control) this year.

Sony's TV has great picture processing features and I find XF7000 to be slightly brighter than last year X7000E , which is a good deal.
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What about Philips 55PUT6102S compare with Sony 55X7000F ?? plan to get 1 for living room before SST.. Went to 2 shops and the staff there also recommend me Philips is much better.. but i doubt about Philips TV products.
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QUOTE(Convael @ Aug 12 2018, 01:37 AM)
The first thing you need to decide , is between VA or IPS.

The Panasonic and Sony are IPS while the rest are VA.

For brighter and bigger room , we normally recommend people to buy an IPS .
For dimmer and bedrooms , go for VA.
At this price point , they aren't going to make a day and night difference .

The Sharp model is an Android TV which has wider color gamut but without the better motion handling features.

Panasonic TVs always have amazing out of box color accuracy because that is the principle of their brands , which is great because people don't hire calibrator for their TVs of this price range.

The Samsung model has amazing contrast as usual but it is short of a few features (like smart remote control) this year.

Sony's TV has great picture processing features and I find XF7000 to be slightly brighter than last year X7000E , which is a good deal.
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Thanx for info. Is it matter VA or IPS for a small room. Leaning toward sharp & pana rite now. Heck, I might just get the cheapest available

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QUOTE(good_juju @ Aug 12 2018, 04:49 AM)
i got 55 inch NU7400 for 2.8k smile.gif
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That's quite a good price. I also have been eyeing Samsung 55" NU7400. Can pls share/PM where you got this price.

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QUOTE(lcyeap90 @ Aug 12 2018, 10:26 AM)
In fact i am having some choices in my head

LG 49SJ800T
Samsung 55NU7100
Sony 55X7000F

Yup. I understand there are size differences and also the year of release. However i am attracted with the nano cell which caugh my eyes.

Since 3 of them now having around the same price range, hence i put them together in the list.
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The Nano Cell is just LG's fancy way of telling you " Our TV can show slightly better ( wider ) viewing angles than other IPS TV in the same range .

Nano Cell TV is also suppose to feature wider color gamut than regular TV when playing HDR Content .

Something to be noted is , the SJ800T is LG's last year mid ~ high end TV, it comes with better capabilities to process HDR content which is the hot topic in town these days.

It will depend on how often you watch HDR content to justify your purchase.
If not , just grab the Sony or Samsung .

QUOTE(Tech26 @ Aug 12 2018, 11:56 PM)
What about Philips 55PUT6102S compare with Sony 55X7000F ?? plan to get 1 for living room before SST.. Went to 2 shops and the staff there also recommend me Philips is much better.. but i doubt about Philips TV products.
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I suggest you go with Sony , Sony TVs always have the better picture processing and noise handling , regardless of their TV models .

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mmmm made a right choice purchasing x7000f
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Looking for a 49" TV that can do well in a (sometimes) brightly front lit environment - so something reasonably bright. Size has to be 49" as it's the largest that'll fit against the pillar it's mounted on without sticking out too much. Price is secondary; all options are RM3k or less.

Shortlist:
Sony 49X8000E (brightness is good on paper but picture never really stood out to me)
Sharp LC50UA6800X (is this brighter than the Sony? Not sure)
LG SJ800T (great perceived image quality, but may not be bright enough)
LG 49SK8000PTA (is 2018's model an improvement over the SJ800?)

Leaving out Samsung NU7100/7400 as subjectively they appear inferior to other options when comparing in store.
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That's quite a good price. I also have been eyeing Samsung 55" NU7400. Can pls share/PM where you got this price.
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Can share where u got this price bro?
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Can share where u got this price bro?
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Hi bro, it was posted by some user as @good_juju. I also want to know but no reply. I think people should have courtesy to reply but can't force anyone :-). So I don't know where to get the price of RM2.8k for 55 NU7400

However I checked y'day that TBM outlet on Jln Klang Lama is offering it at RM 2999.
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Guys, plan to get new TV for my living room. Any recommendations?

Sony 55X7000F - IPS panel, RM3.1k, 4k upscale? Senq price
LG 55UK6300 - RGB panel? RM2.9k, 4k upscale? Merdeka deal (free Sound bar SK1 + magic remote)
Sharp LC60UA6500X - IPS panel, RM3k Merdeka deal, 4k upscale

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QUOTE(purisudhir @ Aug 19 2018, 09:16 AM)
Hi bro, it was posted by some user as @good_juju. I also want to know but no reply. I think people should have courtesy to reply but can't force anyone :-). So I don't know where to get the price of RM2.8k for 55 NU7400

However I checked y'day that TBM outlet on Jln Klang Lama is offering it at RM 2999.
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Go to Samsung thread post #130.
You can get the info there.
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Sharp LC60UA6800X - IPS panel, RM3k Merdeka deal, 4k upscale
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this one is VA panel.

rm3k? i think it is lc60ua6500x (also VA panel), not 6800x.
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this one is VA panel.

rm3k? i think it is lc60ua6500x (also VA panel), not 6800x.
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typo, you're right should be 60ua6500.
Any recommendations?
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typo, you're right should be 60ua6500.
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Will not and cannot talk about tvs that i have not used...

But if u want know more about ua6800x and 6500x:
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4488602/+800
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Guys.. need some professional advice..

I'm planning to get Sony KD55X7000F
1) Gonna wall mount it
2) Gonna buy Roku Streaming Stick+ & plug to HDMI
3) Gonna subscribe Netflix for 4K and Directv premier for all US channels
4) Hacked and currently have 4 sockets
- 1 at 40" above floor to hide TV power wiring
- 3 behind or below TV cabinet for
i) Soundbar (plan to get wireless connected, not sure KD55X7000F can support?)
ii) Wifi Router
iii) Gaming Console

Can the plan above makes my TV set up without exposing wires?

And which package to subscribe for on demand Kdrama?


Thanks
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Go to Samsung thread post #130.
You can get the info there.
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Thanks. Found the post, sharing the link for benefit of rest too

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4590277/all
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Thanks. Found the post, sharing the link for benefit of rest too

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4590277/all
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Just got mine at ESH Empire @ RM 2788. Plus RM 119 bracket + RM 250 installation to pasang on my wall.

Took up the e-guard with extra RM 463 which make 2+3 years.

Total damage @ RM 3620.
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Guys, need help to decide which 55" tv to get from SenQ
gonna to replace my old non-hdr 4k bedroom sammy TV, mainly for PS4Pro gaming & movie streaming

Currently choosing between 3 model, each got some pro & con

1) Samsung NU7400 @ RM3199, final price = RM2171 (after trade-in + CC points rebate).
Pro: HDR10+, SteamLink builtin, most feature rich
Con: More expensive then the rest

2) Panasonic FX600 @ RM3050, final price = RM2022
Pro: Best color to my eyes, hexa chroma drive looks nicer, minimal calibration needed
Con: a bit limited in smart features, no bluetooth

3) Sony X7000F @ RM2799, final price = RM1771
Pro: cheapest of the range, best processor?
Con: No AC Wifi, no bluetooth, smart feature limited

Currently leaning more to Samsung, but still very limited reviews on the unit, and comments on the 3 models? hmm.gif

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Guys, need help to decide which 55" tv to get from SenQ
gonna to replace my old non-hdr 4k bedroom sammy TV, mainly for PS4Pro gaming & movie streaming

Currently choosing between 3 model, each got some pro & con

1) Samsung NU7400 @ RM3199, final price = RM2171 (after trade-in + CC points rebate).
Pro: HDR10+, SteamLink builtin, most feature rich
Con: More expensive then the rest

2) Panasonic FX600 @ RM3050, final price = RM2022
Pro: Best color to my eyes, hexa chroma drive looks nicer, minimal calibration needed
Con: a bit limited in smart features, no bluetooth

3) Sony X7000F @  RM2799, final price = RM1771
Pro: cheapest of the range, best processor?
Con: No AC Wifi, no bluetooth, smart feature limited

Currently leaning more to Samsung, but still very limited reviews on the unit, and comments on the 3 models? hmm.gif
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All these are prices you got from SenQ?
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All these are prices you got from SenQ?
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Guys, need help to decide which 55" tv to get from SenQ
gonna to replace my old non-hdr 4k bedroom sammy TV, mainly for PS4Pro gaming & movie streaming

Currently choosing between 3 model, each got some pro & con

1) Samsung NU7400 @ RM3199, final price = RM2171 (after trade-in + CC points rebate).
Pro: HDR10+, SteamLink builtin, most feature rich
Con: More expensive then the rest

2) Panasonic FX600 @ RM3050, final price = RM2022
Pro: Best color to my eyes, hexa chroma drive looks nicer, minimal calibration needed
Con: a bit limited in smart features, no bluetooth

3) Sony X7000F @  RM2799, final price = RM1771
Pro: cheapest of the range, best processor?
Con: No AC Wifi, no bluetooth, smart feature limited

Currently leaning more to Samsung, but still very limited reviews on the unit, and comments on the 3 models? hmm.gif
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Fundamentally for Samsung entry level 4K HDR TVs , they share the same VA panels and are identical in performance . You know one , you basically also know the rest.

From the KU6100 , KU6300 , MU6100 , MU6300 , MU6400 , NU7100 , NU7400 ... etc

They use the same Samsung UHD Dimming with the same pros and cons , amazing contrast levels , mediocre but steady brightness , decent motion features .
Overall I will say these TVs are pretty good . My only major complains remain its HDR performance . The Samsung UHD dimming provide more another layer of contrast improvement on the TV , but at the cost of dimming very small highlights on the screen . But the overall brightness of the HDR screen is still acceptable in a very dark room.


The 6300 series are usually the curved screens . The 6100 & 7100 series are the flat screens , the nu7400 and mu6400 are the flat screens with Wide color gamut supports .
Samsung has removed some features such as bluetooth & voice remote control , 5Ghz frequency WIFI support on the NU7100 this year .


The FX600 and X7000F are strikingly similar . I always find the Sony pictures a little sharper and generate less noise when you stream lower quality videos .
But they are very minor difference and should not be a deal breaker. Just remember you don't get the 5Ghz WIFI on the Sony if you ever want to stream PC Media directly to your TV.


As a precaution , which I am sure many are tired of reading , the Sony and Panasonic models are IPS TVs , which is more suitable for a brighter & larger room .

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QUOTE(Convael @ Aug 20 2018, 01:25 PM)
Fundamentally for Samsung entry level 4K HDR TVs , they share the same VA panels and are identical in performance . You know one , you basically also know the rest.

From the KU6100 , KU6300 , MU6100 , MU6300 , MU6400 , NU7100 , NU7400 ... etc

They use the same Samsung UHD Dimming with the same pros and cons , amazing contrast levels , mediocre but steady brightness , decent motion features .
Overall I will say these TVs are pretty good . My only major complains remain its HDR performance . The Samsung UHD dimming provide more another layer of contrast improvement on the TV , but at the cost of dimming very small highlights on the screen . But the overall brightness of the HDR screen is still acceptable in a very dark room.
The 6300 series are usually the curved screens . The 6100 & 7100 series are the flat screens , the nu7400 and mu6400 are the flat screens with Wide color gamut supports .
Samsung has removed some features such as bluetooth & voice remote control , 5Ghz frequency WIFI support on the NU7100 this year .
The FX600 and X7000F are strikingly similar . I always find the Sony pictures a little sharper and generate less noise when you stream lower quality videos .
But they are very minor difference and should not be a deal breaker.  Just remember you don't get the 5Ghz WIFI on the Sony if you ever want to stream PC Media directly to your TV.
As a precaution , which I am sure many are tired of reading , the Sony and Panasonic models are IPS TVs , which is more suitable for a brighter & larger room .
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So the Sammy NU7400 confirmed is a VA panel?

since the other 2 is IPS, seems my only option is Sammy then for my bedroom

but I had bad experience with my current 49JU6400, it has very obvious vertical banding, worst when during dark scenes, hope this new model doesn't have such issue
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QUOTE(Convael @ Aug 14 2018, 07:01 AM)
The Nano Cell is just LG's fancy way of telling you " Our TV can show slightly better ( wider ) viewing angles than other IPS TV in the same range .
I did not notice any particular color performance improvement from these LG's TVs  .
Something to be noted is ,  the SJ800T is LG's last year mid ~ high end TV, it comes with better capabilities to process HDR content which is the hot topic in town these days.

It will depend on how often you watch HDR content to justify your purchase.
If not , just grab the Sony or Samsung .
I suggest you go with Sony , Sony TVs always have the better picture processing and noise handling , regardless of their TV models .
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I used to think Sony has the best image processing (at least from my experience of old Sony TV and online reviews)
However the X7000F i have has really crappy motion processing:

1) If i turn on the Motionflow to Smoothness, the artifact is so bad it is unbearable, even noticeable at the minimal settings.
2) Turning on Motionflow to Clearness which essentially is BFI, the brightness dim to less than half, to the point turning on to maximum brightness is still below viewable in a room with ambient light.

My 3 years old Panasonic does a much much better motion processing job than Sony, which if i recall, isn't something Panasonic is known for.
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I used to think Sony has the best image processing (at least from my experience of old Sony TV and online reviews)
However the X7000F i have has really crappy motion processing:

1) If i turn on the Motionflow to Smoothness, the artifact is so bad it is unbearable, even noticeable at the minimal settings.

My 3 years old Panasonic does a much much better motion processing job than Sony, which if i recall, isn't something Panasonic is known for.
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"Smooth" will always cause motion artifacts along with soap opera effects. Which is why most reviews tell you to turn off these settings .
If you really want to leave the motion interpolation on , leave it at custom and manually adjust the "smoothness" to your liking.

You want a flawlessly smooth motion playback , you need to feed the TV HFR content .
You don't feed the TV low frame rate and expect the motion interpolation to be perfect , TV is not a miracle device.

Motion interpolation will always generate artifacts regardless of brands . It is considered a bonus feature , afterall not everyone can stand the S.O effects .

When I was talking about motion handling , I am referring to TV's native ability is at handling flickers and motion blurs with all the excessive motion settings OFF , Sony TV always do great in this respect. The pixels only take 7.5 milliseconds to change its colors , as a result motion blur effect is almost negligible for fast moving scenes .




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2) Turning on Motionflow to Clearness which essentially is BFI, the brightness dim to less than half, to the point turning on to maximum brightness is still below viewable in a room with ambient light.



Turning on BFI will always reduce brightness , this happens to every TV from every brand not just Sony.
The only TV that has really great BFI is Sony X9000F with X-motion clarity which can restore a portion of the lost brightness onto the picture . Even then this will still reduce the brightness loss from 50% to 20% , you are still going to lose brightness on screen no matter what .

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sony x7000f
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which 1 is better in term of PQ sir?
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sony x7000f
samsung nu7100

which 1 is better in term of PQ sir?
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In a bright room they are about the same , in dark or dim room the Samsung is better because it is a VA TV .
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Sony X7000F vs Samsung NU7100 vs LG UK630. Which one would be most recommended in terms of quality all around?
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x7000f is a replacement for x7000e, right ?

Will x7000f make a proper monitor ? both gaming and movies ?
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In a bright room they are about the same , in dark or dim room the Samsung is better because it is a VA TV .
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ended up with sharp ua6800x rclxms.gif

brighter compared nu7100, and its a VA too biggrin.gif
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Sony X7000F vs Samsung NU7100 vs LG UK630. Which one would be most recommended in terms of quality all around?
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Ya. I also want to know this
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Ya. I also want to know this
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i took sharp 60ua6800x after comparing 55nu7100 and 55x7000f

i brought my own video to test brows.gif

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Sony X7000F vs Samsung NU7100 vs LG UK630. Which one would be most recommended in terms of quality all around?
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The LG UK6300 is an RGBW TV .


The primary difference between XF70 and NU7100 is the panel . XF70 is an IPS and NU7100 a VA

Other than that there isn't too much of a difference between the two beside the inherent pro and cons of VA & IPS

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Really, there's no need to be so defensive.
This is not my first TV nor my first Sony TV for me to make such a comment.
There's pros and cons in every product and a good exposure of them are what makes community discussion great.

Don't get me wrong, i like the TV for the price i paid it for. It fits my purpose of getting a large TV at lowest price.
But weakness is still weakness and i'm going to say it out loud:
Sony got the motion part so wrong they shouldn't even include it as feature if they are going to cut corner so badly.


QUOTE(Convael @ Aug 22 2018, 02:05 PM)
"Smooth" will always cause motion artifacts along with soap opera effects. Which is why most reviews tell you to turn off these settings .
If you really want to leave the motion interpolation on ,  leave it at custom and manually adjust the "smoothness" to your liking.
Visual purist and reviewers tells you to turn it off for cleaner cinematographic, i get it.
But motion settings are there for a reason: Some people do like it (hint: me), while others don't.

QUOTE(Convael @ Aug 22 2018, 02:05 PM)
You want a flawlessly smooth motion playback , you need to feed the TV HFR content .
You don't feed the TV low frame rate and expect the motion interpolation to be perfect , TV is not a miracle device.
Feeding HFR content is completely irrelevant in this case: the TV only has a 60Hz panel and interpolate only at 30fps.

QUOTE(Convael @ Aug 22 2018, 02:05 PM)
Motion interpolation will always generate artifacts regardless of brands . It is considered a bonus feature , afterall not everyone can stand the S.O effects .
Edge artifact is so prominent in this unit even in the lowest setting, it is unusable.
I don't even need a side by side comparison with my other TVs to see the prominence of edge artifact in this.

QUOTE(Convael @ Aug 14 2018, 07:01 AM)
Sony TVs always have the better picture processing and noise handling , regardless of their TV models .
Sony cut a corner so great in motion processing in low end model, its hard to agree that it is regardless of TV models.

QUOTE(Convael @ Aug 22 2018, 02:05 PM)
When I was talking about motion handling , I am referring to TV's native ability is at handling flickers and motion blurs with all the excessive motion settings OFF , Sony TV always do great in this respect. The pixels only take 7.5 milliseconds to change its colors ,  as a result motion blur effect is almost negligible for fast moving scenes .
Response time reduces ghosting. It is not picture processing.
And it is again irrelevant here given the TV only have a 60Hz panel that requires 16.67ms response time even when you maxed out the frame rate.
Not sure how are the 7.5ms response time supposed to enhance anything.

QUOTE(Convael @ Aug 22 2018, 02:05 PM)
Turning on BFI will always reduce brightness , this happens to every TV from every brand not just Sony.
The only TV that has really great BFI is Sony X9000F with X-motion clarity which can restore a portion of the lost brightness onto the picture . Even then this will still reduce the brightness loss from 50% to 20%  , you are still going to lose brightness on screen no matter what .
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Look at the ridiculously short duty cycle measured by rtings.com for X70E, i'd suspect they are just as short in X70F since they are pretty identical.
https://i.rtings.com/images/reviews/tv/sony...t-bfi-large.jpg


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Visual purist and reviewers tells you to turn it off for cleaner cinematographic, i get it.
But motion settings are there for a reason: Some people do like it (hint: me), while others don't.

I was giving you a suggestion , one where Sony has an option to adjust the M.I ( motion interpolation ) settings . It helps to reduce motion artifacts you see generated around moving objects.

No idea how this turns into another " Different people Different Preference " defense , which you used to stray off topic & break my reply apart just for the sake of arguing. Back to you perhaps , remind me how is this relevant to what we were discussing ? I don't recall telling you to turn it off , only pointing out the fact that M.I is an option that can be adjusted / turned off ?

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I don't even need a side by side comparison with my other TVs to see the prominence of edge artifact in this.
Sony cut a corner so great in motion processing in low end model, its hard to agree that it is regardless of TV models.


My advice , go look for entry level TVs from other brands before you make judgement .
You are right , Sony is cutting features from their budget TVs . But at the very least you are still getting the options for MI & BFI . Are you aware that some of the more expensive TVs don't have MI & BFI at all ?

You don't have to agree with me , it is the general consensus that Sony TVs have a better motion handling .
Perhaps not good enough for you but it is already better than some other brands .

Certain individuals tend to notice the motion flaws more than the others . Ever consider the fact that maybe you are the minority in this case ?
Sony has sold a lot of units from their 7000 series for the past few years . If the artifact problems are so severe , I am sure we would have heard of it , not just the one or two occasional ruckus from forum.


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Response time reduces ghosting. It is not picture processing.And it is again irrelevant here given the TV only have a 60Hz panel that requires 16.67ms response time even when you maxed out the frame rate.Not sure how are the 7.5ms response time supposed to enhance anything.

The only thing irrelevant here is this argument , all TVs at this price range are of 60hz to begin with .

A 60hz TV with 7.5 ms pixel response time will help to reduce motion blurs , ghostings and frame stutters . All of which are critical component of the motion handling process.

This specific model has a steady backlights and doesn't induce much flickers , reasonably good at processing motion 24p judders despite being a 60hz & doesn't cause noticeable stutters . All of these contribute to the overall pretty good motion performance of the TV , not just the MI artifacts.

I mentioned them because you were wondering why reviewers think Sony TVs have good motion handlings . You are only evaluating the performance from MI & BFI. How about TVs that don't have them ? Then all of the LG OLED TV from the past years must have scored a 0 in motion handling since they don't even have a BFI system .


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Feeding HFR content is completely irrelevant in this case: the TV only has a 60Hz panel and interpolate only at 30fps.

"HFR" I mean here is higher FPS , anything higher than your typical 24p media content.

An interpolated 60 fps video can never look as good as native 60 fps content , that's what I mean.

Regardless of how advanced your M.I algorithm is , the extra frame is only a duplicate , not an actual portrayal of the moving objects . Sony 's principle is to try & keep these motion artifacts at minimal . In fact their TV often skips a frame or two to avoid causing too much artifacts on the screen.

The question is , what sort of expectation do you have for your TV ?

A large part of your complaint is base on the motion artifacts when M.I is turned on .
Throughout my life time of inspecting TVs , none of them , not even the top notch TVs can manage a perfect M.I with zero artifacts

Also a little correction, the TV interpolates 30 fps into 60 fps , not AT 30 fps.

You obviously has done some reading on rtings looking to "debunk" my replies but not enough to understand how the thing works precisely.
Ironically , rting actually rated the motion score of model you linked higher than other TVs in the similar price range.


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Look at the ridiculously short duty cycle measured by rtings.com for X70E, i'd suspect they are just as short in X70F since they are pretty identical.
https://i.rtings.com/images/reviews/tv/sony...t-bfi-large.jpg
The BFI implementation on current LED LCD displays is nowhere near perfect , they suffer a significant brightness drop or from more apparent flicker effects .

You were ranting about the brightness drop from BFI previously , which I've already explained how this is result of TV flashing its backlights to insert a black frame .

Somehow , you took this wrongly and link me a duty cycles chart from different model from different year . Yea right , that is very credible and relevant.
Do you even have any idea why does this TV of yours has shorter duty cycles to begin with ? Let me know when you figure this out (hint : the answer is not on rting )

You don't want the screen to dim , don't turn the BFI on . If you can tolerate the flickers , Samsung BFIs experience less of a brightness drop ( ~30%V) or the XF900 ( ~20%V ). Until then , please name me a TV at this price range that doesn't suffer from BFI screen dimming .


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Really, there's no need to be so defensive.
This is not my first TV nor my first Sony TV for me to make such a comment.
There's pros and cons in every product and a good exposure of them are what makes community discussion great


QUOTE(fx_53_xt @ Aug 28 2018, 12:05 AM)
Don't get me wrong, i like the TV for the price i paid it for. It fits my purpose of getting a large TV at lowest price.
But weakness is still weakness and i'm going to say it out loud:
Sony got the motion part so wrong they shouldn't even include it as feature if they are going to cut corner so badly.


I don't see how I am being defensive , Sony doesn't pay me to say good things of their TVs . In fact I am the biggest anti - fanboism of the brands on this forum.
If you are offended by what I said , I am sorry . But here is an advice from me , you will need a little thicker skin to survive in the society.

You are paying for an entry level basic TV , you need to seriously keep your expectation in check.

Don't like the TV ? Feel free to shout out loud , that's what the forum is here for . Unlike a certain brand PR , I am not emotionally affected by your criticism .

As much as I always enjoy a good read from new TV experiences , I don't usually step in unless they've made very bold & exaggerated claims .
All of the concerns you have for the TV are valid . But they have been made hyperbole , clearly you have yet to come across many other budget TVs of the same price range.

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Hi, any comments on lg 49uk6320?
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It's a RGBW TV .
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It's a RGBW TV .
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Which one better if compare to samsung u7100 since almost the same price
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QUOTE(aaron_15ryderz @ Sep 5 2018, 01:45 PM)
Which one better if compare to samsung u7100 since almost the same price
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Hi, any comments on the Hisense 55M5010? I am considering between choosing the cheaper Hisense and the more expensive 55 in Samsung NU7100/Sont X70E/X70F.
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Hi all sifu here,

Need your comment suggestion for buying a 4k tv install in living hall.

1. Philips 50" 50PUT6102S 4K Smart, RM2060
2. Sharp LC50UA6500X 4K Smart, RM1959
3. Sony KD49X7000F, RM2099
4. LG 49UK6300PTE, RM1888

the model and price above are checked from Lazada. will use the TV for watch movie, play game, youtube. which one worth to buy

thank you very much
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QUOTE(hhk8484 @ Sep 10 2018, 02:40 AM)
Hi all sifu here,

Need your comment suggestion for buying a 4k tv install in living hall.

1. Philips 50" 50PUT6102S 4K Smart, RM2060
2. Sharp LC50UA6500X 4K Smart, RM1959
3. Sony KD49X7000F, RM2099
4. LG 49UK6300PTE, RM1888

the model and price above are checked from Lazada. will use the TV for watch movie, play game, youtube. which one worth to buy

thank you very much
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I believe the Philips model isn't a HDR TV .

Philips doesn't care about their 4k TV market in Malaysia very much , that's why their TVs are often excluded from recommendation . Especially when this particular model is from last year , I don't know if they ever plan to bring their 2018 models to MY especially when they put most of their TV priority in the Europe market .


4k HDR-TVs in this price range show very little difference than SDR but it is nice to still have that option .
Only the #2 , #3 , #4 from your list are tagged as a 4K HDR TV .


The Sharp is VA TV but it doesn't has any M.I or BFI features , which means it isn't very ideal for watching movies since you will have no way to smooth out the judders from 24p movies on a 60 hz TV . However . not everyone will notice the judders .

The LG model is one of the brand's infamous RGBW TV , which you should avoid buying despite being a little bit cheaper .

Overall , the Sony model has the most complete set of features among the 4 at a slightly higher price tag.


Beside that , the first thing to decide when you are buying TVs is to determine your room condition , go with IPS for brighter & larger room , VA if your room is dark / dimmer .





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QUOTE(Convael @ Sep 10 2018, 01:11 PM)
I believe the Philips model isn't a HDR TV .

Philips doesn't care about their 4k TV market in Malaysia very much , that's why their TVs are often excluded from recommendation  . Especially when this particular model is from last year , I don't know if they ever plan to bring their 2018 models to MY especially when they put most of their TV priority in the Europe market .
4k HDR-TVs in this price range show very little difference than SDR but it is nice to still have that option .
Only the #2 , #3 , #4 from your list are tagged as a 4K HDR TV .
The Sharp is VA TV but it doesn't has any M.I or BFI features , which means it isn't very ideal for watching movies since you will have no way to smooth out the judders from 24p movies on a 60 hz TV . However . not everyone will notice the judders .

The LG model is one of the brand's infamous RGBW TV , which you should avoid buying despite being a little bit cheaper .

Overall , the Sony model has the most complete set of features among the 4 at a slightly higher price tag.
Beside that ,  the first thing to decide when you are buying TVs is to determine your room condition , go with IPS for brighter & larger room , VA if your room is dark / dimmer .
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The tv will be installed in living hall which is bright and larger than the room. Sony is IPS TV?? So I shd choose Sony ? Thank you

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QUOTE(Convael @ Sep 10 2018, 01:11 PM)
I believe the Philips model isn't a HDR TV .

Philips doesn't care about their 4k TV market in Malaysia very much , that's why their TVs are often excluded from recommendation  . Especially when this particular model is from last year , I don't know if they ever plan to bring their 2018 models to MY especially when they put most of their TV priority in the Europe market .
4k HDR-TVs in this price range show very little difference than SDR but it is nice to still have that option .
Only the #2 , #3 , #4 from your list are tagged as a 4K HDR TV .
The Sharp is VA TV but it doesn't has any M.I or BFI features , which means it isn't very ideal for watching movies since you will have no way to smooth out the judders from 24p movies on a 60 hz TV . However . not everyone will notice the judders .

The LG model is one of the brand's infamous RGBW TV , which you should avoid buying despite being a little bit cheaper .

Overall , the Sony model has the most complete set of features among the 4 at a slightly higher price tag.
Beside that ,  the first thing to decide when you are buying TVs is to determine your room condition , go with IPS for brighter & larger room , VA if your room is dark / dimmer .
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I just Desa Home to see these display set and compare each other. LG is out, the quality really bad if u can compare with other.

I comparing Philip and Sony now. The motion rate/processing in Philip is better, but picture quality is Sony(I think bcos of HDR). The price also Rm50 different only(Sony rm1899,philip rm1950).

Feel headache now which one to choose ...
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QUOTE(hhk8484 @ Sep 10 2018, 02:40 AM)
Hi all sifu here,

Need your comment suggestion for buying a 4k tv install in living hall.

1. Philips 50" 50PUT6102S 4K Smart, RM2060
2. Sharp LC50UA6500X 4K Smart, RM1959
3. Sony KD49X7000F, RM2099
4. LG 49UK6300PTE, RM1888

the model and price above are checked from Lazada. will use the TV for watch movie, play game, youtube. which one worth to buy

thank you very much
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I have the same requirement like you, looking a new tv. My current TV is Panasonic Plasma.
My budget is around 2-3k for 45-60â€.

Lots of the model in the market, Toshiba Sharp Samsung Sony etc., and I don’t really know how to choose actually.
Need some advises from all sifu smile.gif
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What do you think is the TV with the BEST DISPLAY and not the smart tv features under RM3k
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QUOTE(hhk8484 @ Sep 11 2018, 05:24 PM)
I just Desa Home to see these display set and compare each other. LG is out, the quality really bad if u can compare with other.

I comparing Philip and Sony now. The motion rate/processing in Philip is better, but picture quality is Sony(I think bcos of HDR). The price also Rm50 different only(Sony rm1899,philip rm1950).

Feel headache now which one to choose ...
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Which sony model is that, Sony KD49X7000F?
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Which sony model is that, Sony KD49X7000F?
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QUOTE(hhk8484 @ Sep 11 2018, 05:24 PM)
I just Desa Home to see these display set and compare each other. LG is out, the quality really bad if u can compare with other.

I comparing Philip and Sony now. The motion rate/processing in Philip is better, but picture quality is Sony(I think bcos of HDR). The price also Rm50 different only(Sony rm1899,philip rm1950).

Feel headache now which one to choose ...
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I really doubt that , unless the shop owner lets you calibrate both of the TV for a side by side comparison . Beside that , any difference you see might as well be the result of different TV settings . TV shops are usually well-lit , which makes it really difficult to judge on picture quality as well.

That's why all these IPS TV look really incredible good in shop .

So in conclusion , despite of what most people telling you go to the shop , trust your eyes , blah blah blah .... what we can actually see in the shop is very limited . It is crucial to keep your expectation in check , have the basic knowledge so you don't get swayed by the salesman and end up buying an entirely different TV when it is sent to your home .

You are looking for a living room TV , so getting an IPS TV seems more ideal .
In your case , only the LG & Sony models are of IPS screen , since you have already eliminated the LG out of the two it is only logical to get the Sony one.


***I am 95% sure the Philips model of this size has a VA panel but I can still be wrong


QUOTE(Ryk @ Sep 11 2018, 05:38 PM)
I have the same requirement like you, looking a new tv. My current TV is Panasonic Plasma.
My budget is around 2-3k for 45-60â€.

Lots of the model in the market, Toshiba Sharp Samsung Sony etc., and I don’t really know how to choose actually.
Need some advises from all sifu smile.gif
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As a ex - plasma owner , I find it really hard to adapt to the LED-LCD TV .
Most modern LED-LCDs simply can't compete with the black levels , the viewing angles and the motion clarity of Plasma .


That's why long after the death of Plasmas , some AV enthusiast are still holding onto their trustworthy Kuro thumbsup.gif
Theoretically , only the OLEDs can provide meaningful upgrades to your previous plasma but it is far more expensive than your budget allows and not available in the smaller size (<55")


On the bright side ( literally ) , modern TVs are far brighter than Plasmas and provide massive resolution upgrade to 4k and upcoming 8k , along with HDR & accessibility with most of the basic 4k streaming platforms such as Youtube , Amazon prime videos, Netflix . The HDR is also the hot topic in town so you should spend some times reading onto that .

Start by learning the pro & cons from LED-LCD types ( VA vs IPS ) and understand how practical these advantages can apply to your room.
For eg , if you are buying a fairly large TV for smaller personal rooms , the wider viewing angles will not be very useful to you.

Then look for the prices of the models and see which brands can suit your personal need best.

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I really doubt that , unless the shop owner lets you calibrate both of the TV for a side by side comparison . Beside that , any difference you see might as well be the result of different TV settings . TV shops are usually well-lit , which makes it really difficult to judge on picture quality as well.

That's why all these IPS TV look really incredible good in shop .

So in conclusion , despite of what most people telling you go to the shop , trust your eyes , blah blah blah ....  what we can actually see in the shop is very limited . It is crucial to keep your expectation in check , have the basic knowledge so you don't swayed by the salesman and end up buying an entirely different TV when it is sent to you home .

You are looking for a living room TV , so getting an IPS TV seems more ideal .
In your case ,  only the LG & Sony models are of IPS screen ,  since you have already eliminated the LG out of the two it is only logical to get the Sony one.
***I am 95% sure the Philips model of this size has a VA panel but I can still be wrong
As a ex - plasma owner , I find it really hard to adapt to the LED-LCD TV .
Most modern LED-LCDs simply can't compete with the black levels , the viewing angles and the motion clarity of Plasma .
That's why long after the death of Plasmas , some AV enthusiast are still holding onto their trustworthy Kuro  :thumbsup: 
Theoretically , only the OLEDs can provide meaningful upgrades to your previous plasma but it is far more expensive than your budget allows and not available in the smaller size (<55")
On the bright side ( literally ) , modern TVs are far brighter than Plasmas and provide massive resolution upgrade to 4k and upcoming 8k , along with HDR & accessibility with most of the basic 4k streaming platforms such as Youtube , Amazon prime videos, Netflix . The HDR is also the hot topic in town so you should spend some times reading onto that  .

Start by learning the pro & cons from LED-LCD types ( VA vs IPS )  and learn how practical these advantages can apply to your room.
For eg ,  if you are buying a fairly large TV for smaller personal room , the wider viewing angles will be very  useful to you.

Then look for the prices of the models and see which brands can suit your personal need best.
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The shop promoter move the tv and let me compare side by side...he open YouTube and Astro, but not use demo video for me to compare. I am not sure what setting in TV, but i can come out my result from what I see at there. The service really good in this shop , haha

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Hi,

Read through the whole thread but need some confirmation on 55X7000F..
Sony
49X7000E -> IPS
55X7000E -> VA

49X7000F -> IPS
55X7000F -> VA? or IPS?

Thx.

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QUOTE(ZONX @ Sep 12 2018, 03:02 PM)
Hi,

Read through the whole thread but need some confirmation on 55X7000F..
Sony
49X7000E -> IPS
55X7000E -> VA

49X7000F -> IPS
55X7000F -> VA? or IPS?

Thx.
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All sizes of XF70 seems to be IPS for now
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QUOTE(Convael @ Sep 12 2018, 03:11 PM)
All sizes of XF70 seems to be IPS for now
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Thanks. It will be great if 55XF70 is IPS. Planning to get one for living room.
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Hi, any comments on the Hisense 55M5010? I am considering between choosing the cheaper Hisense and the more expensive 55 in Samsung NU7100/Sont X70E/X70F.
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QUOTE(air_mood @ Aug 1 2018, 12:56 PM)
Listed price was 2199, then he checked on Shopee they listed 2160, ended up giving me 2150. That's inclusive of courier should you choose to have it couriered.
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Hey bro, would you still recommend this TV for someone who's about to purchase one? Thanks.
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QUOTE(jcheong @ Sep 15 2018, 10:19 PM)
Hey bro, would you still recommend this TV for someone who's about to purchase one? Thanks.
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TV works fine for me. My games and Avengers 4K looks fine for me on it. I might know all the technical details, but it looks fine to me.
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Hi all,
Recently looking for 65" tv , just view in hervey norman found sony 65 x7000f is only rm4100+ , is this model worth to buy or have any other band/model recommended ?
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so which is better? Sammy, lg, Toshiba?
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Toshiba sold to HiSense https://www.theverge.com/2017/11/14/1664937...-tv-deal-signed
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Yes, unfortunately this is correct and the products have nothing to do with Toshiba any longer, they are just using the name to trick people into believing that they are getting Japanese quality when they are actually selling Chinese crap.
Unfortunately I feel into this trap - I bought the 55U9750VM - their high end TV assuming I will get a quality product. Unfortunately that's not the case.
This TV is an absolute piece of crap - the panel died after less than 6 week. Customer service sucks getting parts from KL takes 2 weeks, so the TV will be gone for 4 weeks. Yes, this is not toshiba but hisense so expect chinese quality and chinese customer service.
Stay away from these products as far as you can.
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found Sony tv 50 (or 49?) X7000E for less than 1700 ringgit at Tesco. i know it is last year model. is it a good buy? want to buy this for my mother
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found Sony tv 50 (or 49?) X7000E for less than 1700 ringgit at Tesco. i know it is last year model. is it a good buy? want to buy this for my mother
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nice price but last year model
go shop KD49X7000F after discount 10% RM1889.10
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Hi all sifu, I want a TV that can do perfect for watching tv show and movie at night, prefer in a dim room. any sugguestion? thinking about 55' and budget below 3K.

About android tv, if it doesn't have android OS, I can still play the video through laptop by connected to chromecast or hdmi right?
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QUOTE(Karen1995 @ Sep 21 2018, 01:47 PM)
Hi all sifu, I want a TV that can do perfect for watching tv show and movie at night, prefer in a dim room. any sugguestion?  thinking about 55' and budget below 3K.

About android tv, if it doesn't have android OS, I can still play the video through laptop by connected to chromecast or hdmi right?
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Xiaomi TV 4A/C, less than rm2k for 55inch
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china brand TV ok?
hisens,haier,tcl,skyworth?
there other korea brand too
I wan rich colour and natural
which to go?
55 inch
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I'm undecided between the following for a budget of rm3k:

1) sony x7000f 49"
2) sony x7500f (android version) 49"
3) Samsung nu7400 50"

I would be using it for my bedroom hence viewing angle should not be an issue and the room is usually dimmer, suggesting more towards VA panel (samsung).

However, when viewed in the shop, Sony seems a little sharper while samsung seems washed out (when viewed not dead straight at the tv).

As the tv will be used mainly for drama streaming, which tv would be better? Would the android tv in sony be worthwhile or it's advisable to purchase a separate android box.

need suggestions. thanks!
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Hi Guys, after read through everything, i have finalize these 2 model

Samsung 55"NU7100
Sony KD55x7000e

mainly use in living room, which is really better? as both technically about same price.
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Hi Guys, after read through everything, i have finalize these 2 model

Samsung 55"NU7100
Sony KD55x7000e

mainly use in living room, which is really better? as both technically about same price.
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X7000E

QUOTE(woonyoung91 @ Oct 2 2018, 09:15 PM)
I'm undecided between the following for a budget of rm3k:

1) sony x7000f 49"
2) sony x7500f (android version) 49"
3) Samsung nu7400 50"

I would be using it for my bedroom hence viewing angle should not be an issue and the room is usually dimmer, suggesting more towards VA panel (samsung).

However, when viewed in the shop, Sony seems a little sharper while samsung seems washed out (when viewed not dead straight at the tv).

As the tv will be used mainly for drama streaming, which tv would be better? Would the android tv in sony be worthwhile or it's advisable to purchase a separate android box.

need suggestions. thanks!
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3) Samsung nu7400 50"


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X7000E
3) Samsung nu7400 50"
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can any sifus here help me choose one of the following options in terms of best bang for the buck? these four are roughly within the same price range:

SHARP LC50UA6500X
TCL 50P6US
SONY KD49X7000F
LG 49UK6300
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Sharp LC60UA6800X Vs LC60LE580X..

Hi, I have been considering the the sharp LC60UA6800X when the price has dropped more than 1K since it released. I think this is the only "Made in Japan" screen in this price range.

When I compared LC60UA6800X vs LC60LE580X side by side in a TV shop watching some youtube and astro shows at a viewing distance of 8ft, to my surprise, LC60LE580X is a Clear winner! LC60UA6800X performs poorly compared to E580x interns of picture clarity. (at a shorter distant, the 6800x, beeing a 4K TV, is sharper than LE580X without question, but who watches a 60in TV close-up? )

LC60LE580X is not 4K and that's why it's much cheaper than LC60UA6800X 4K, but considering the picture quality at "normal viewing distant" I have to say it's perform much better than the 6800x. So I am seriously considering the LC60L580X over the 4K LC60UA6800X.

Can't seems to find much review on LC60L580X online. 6800 is better specs than 580 on paper but performance shows otherwise.

Convael pointed out LC60UA6800X does not has motion handling M.I or BFI features, may be this is the reason LC60LE580X performs better? does LC60LE580X has motion processing?

6800x is 2018 model, not sure what year 580x was released.

Any Sifu knows the difference between this two models?
is LC60LE580X a better buy?
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guys, can anyone try to explain to me, what's the real difference between sony kd55x7500f and sony kd55x7000f? i see the only difference so far is the Android tv vs normal Smart tv, but the price difference is around 3k vs 2500...
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QUOTE(NuKkE @ Sep 21 2018, 08:24 AM)
found Sony tv 50 (or 49?) X7000E for less than 1700 ringgit at Tesco. i know it is last year model. is it a good buy? want to buy this for my mother
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yes, in fact i think the PQ is better in the dimmer room then the newer model (x7000f) due to VA panel it is using.
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yes, in fact i think the PQ is better in the dimmer room then the newer model (x7000f) due to VA panel it is using.
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Only the 55 inches of older models of X7000E are VA , 55 inches of X7000F is IPS .

QUOTE(adam_lss @ Oct 11 2018, 12:32 PM)
guys, can anyone try to explain to me, what's the real difference between sony kd55x7500f and sony kd55x7000f? i see the only difference so far is the Android tv vs normal Smart tv, but the price difference is around 3k vs 2500...
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That's pretty much the difference , you are paying extra for the Android OS. But Sony 's TV Android OS is prone to crashes and sluggishness , some people prefer it because it offers more apps . They have also removed some of the trivial features such as the support of 5GHz Wifi on the XF70 .


QUOTE(woonyoung91 @ Oct 5 2018, 05:10 PM)
can elaborate more why nu7400 ya. thanks
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Because it is the better TV among your options for dimmer rooms , any difference you see in the shop might as well be the result of different settings .
The Samsung TVs will look more washed out when viewed from the sides because it has narrow viewing angles ( which is the flaw of VA Panel based TV) . But it is a little better for watching HDR content thanks to the coverage of wider color space.

QUOTE(KC18 @ Oct 6 2018, 06:36 PM)
Sharp LC60UA6800X Vs LC60LE580X..

Hi, I have been considering the the sharp LC60UA6800X when the price has dropped more than 1K since it released. I think this is the only "Made in Japan" screen in this price range.

When I compared LC60UA6800X vs  side by side in a TV shop watching some youtube and astro shows at a viewing distance of 8ft, to my surprise,  LC60LE580X is a Clear winner!  LC60UA6800X performs poorly compared to E580x interns of picture clarity. (at a shorter distant, the 6800x, beeing a 4K TV, is sharper than LE580X without question, but who watches a 60in TV close-up? )

LC60LE580X is not 4K and that's why it's much cheaper than LC60UA6800X 4K, but considering the picture quality at "normal viewing distant" I have to say it's perform much better than the 6800x. So I am seriously considering the LC60L580X over the 4K LC60UA6800X.

Can't seems to find much review on LC60L580X online. 6800 is better specs than 580 on paper but performance shows otherwise.

Convael pointed out LC60UA6800X does not has motion handling M.I or BFI features, may be this is the reason LC60LE580X performs better?  does LC60LE580X has motion processing?

6800x is 2018 model, not sure what year 580x was released.

Any Sifu knows the difference between this two models?
is LC60LE580X a better buy?
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That's the thing with 4K TVs , if you don't sit close enough to the screen , any picture improvement to 4k is not very visible to our eyes , hence not worth paying extra for the 4K upgrades .


It's difficult to say if TV A or TV B has better upscaling , because any difference might be caused by different sharpness settings.
Most big brands TV runs a very identical upscaling algorithm , but certain brands like Samsung's TV tend to overscan the screen causing the overall picture to look a bit more blurry .
Once these extra processing effects are turned off , the upscaling quality should look pretty much the same unless you are running test patterns and using magnifier to spot the difference.

The primary difference between the two is still the HDR performance (beside the resolution upgrade) . The 6800x supports a wider color space than LE580X but this colors improvement is only visible in HDR TV shows , movies and games . If you don't watch / play HDR content , might as well stick with the 580x.

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QUOTE(Convael @ Oct 11 2018, 09:53 PM)
Only the 55 inches of older models of X7000E are VA , 55 inches of X7000F is IPS .
That's pretty much the difference , you are paying extra for the Android OS. But Sony 's TV Android OS is prone to crashes and sluggishness , some people prefer it because it offers more apps . They have also removed some of the trivial features such as the support of 5GHz Wifi on the XF70 .
Because it is the better TV among your options for dimmer rooms ,  any difference you see in the shop might as well be the result of different settings .
The Samsung TVs  will look more washed out when viewed from the sides because it has narrow viewing angles ( which is the flaw of VA Panel based TV) . But it is a little better for watching HDR content thanks to the coverage of wider color space.
That's the thing with 4K TVs ,  if you don't sit close enough to the screen , any picture improvement to 4k is not very visible to our eyes ,  hence not worth paying extra for the 4K upgrades .
It's difficult to say if TV A or TV B has better upscaling , because any difference might be caused by different sharpness settings.
Most big brands TV runs a very identical upscaling algorithm , but certain brands like Samsung's TV tend to overscan the screen causing the overall picture to look a bit more blurry .
Once these extra processing effects are turned off , the upscaling quality should look pretty much the same unless you are running test patterns and using magnifier to spot the difference.

The primary difference between the two is still the HDR performance . The 6800x supports a wider color space than LE580X but this colors improvement is only visible in HDR TV shows , movies and games .  If you don't watch / play HDR content , might as well stick with the 580x.
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thanks, i am scaling down my 1st 4k tv, it would be either a sony of a samsung, hope to get your 2 cents on this

1) Sony kd49x7500f
2) Samsung ua49mu6100kxxm

what i know so far
1) sony known for better durability, but the UI is poor, and the android OS sometimes causes the tv to hang or lag
2) Samsung, not as durable as sony, but has excellent colors, and has something like a mouse pointer to ease browsing

hope to get your opinion coz not really apple to apple comparison... thanks
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QUOTE(adam_lss @ Oct 12 2018, 12:13 PM)
thanks, i am scaling down my 1st 4k tv, it would be either a sony of a samsung, hope to get your 2 cents on this

1) Sony kd49x7500f
2) Samsung ua49mu6100kxxm

what i know so far
1) sony known for better durability, but the UI is poor, and the android OS sometimes causes the tv to hang or lag
2) Samsung, not as durable as sony, but has excellent colors, and has something like a mouse pointer to ease browsing

hope to get your opinion coz not really apple to apple comparison... thanks
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It's hard to say which brand is more durable ; I have had Samsung TVs which lasted over 7 years without problems , I have also seen Sony TVs broke down within the week of purchase. The vast majority of people only complain when things broke down , which is why there are more people complain about Samsung since they've sold more TVs than the other brands.


In terms of the color performance , neither of these 2 TV support wider color gamut. So expect their color performance to be identical when both TV are adjusted under the same
settings.


Depends on your room condition , the Sony one is an IPS TV while the Samsung one is of VA panel .
As usual , I recommend you to get an IPS TV for larger room, brighter room (such as living room ) to take advantages of the wider viewing angles . For brighter rooms , the ambient lights will hide the poor black levels of IPS TV really well . For smaller and dimmer room such as bed room , go for the VA panel.

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QUOTE(Convael @ Oct 11 2018, 09:53 PM)
Only the 55 inches of older models of X7000E are VA , 55 inches of X7000F is IPS .
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actually today i found out 49x7000f is using ips but 55x7000f is using VA at aeon big.

btw did you have any insight for the following 2 model inside the attachment?.. seems like sony just added this 2 model quite recently..

im aiming for 55x7000f / 55x7500f too at this moment.. should i just buy it or wait for this 2 model to come out?.. hmmmmm


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The standard edition should be using IPS , as listed here .

There seem to be several different edition of the model (X7007f , X7077f ) from your screenshot . I can't be sure if every single of these edition are of IPS panels , there are simply too many different warehouse edition to track them down for every sizes . Sony may have added some extra features as a quirk , like many other brands did with their warehouse variance. But the general performance of the TV should remain the same as the default XF7000 .


I do know that when Sony announced their 2018 line ups , only the XF83 ( X8300F) was specifically highlighted as VA models .

If you want to be absolutely sure of the panel type & added features , the best way is to call & ask Sony themselves .

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QUOTE(soulmad @ Sep 25 2018, 06:15 PM)
china brand TV ok?
hisens,haier,tcl,skyworth?
there other korea brand too
I wan rich colour and natural
which to go?
55 inch
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Dear All , anyone here have experience with Panasonic 55 4K UHD Smart TV Model 55FX600K? Aeon they are selling it for RM 3299.
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Hi guys, anyone of you has any experience using professional display as your day to day TV. Went to Sony center and they have this promo on professional display 55BZ series. They claimed it’s the same spec as X8500F series.

Was quoted RM3.3k for it for 55â€. Seems like a good deal considering X8500F selling for ~rm5.5k.

Just want to get some opinion what’s the pro and cons of this professional display.

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just ordered a Sony 65" X7000F for RM4050.
by far the cheapest i ever seen in Penang and i kinda have doubts on why this particular shop can manage to go so low.

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just ordered a Sony 65" X7000F for RM4050.
by far the cheapest i ever seen in Penang and i kinda have doubts on why this particular shop can manage to go so low.

Anyway, set arriving tomorrow and we shall see.
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Quoted LG 55Uk65 @ Rm2800 + Rm250 Cash voucher. Worth it ?
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Quoted LG 55Uk65 @ Rm2800 + Rm250 Cash voucher. Worth it ?
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LG 49SJ800T

LG 50UK6300PTE

SAMSUNG 49NU7100

which one better? No problem with the budget.
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Hi, looking to buy a 4k tv mainly to play ps4 pro and watch some videos (non-4k) with budget RM3k. Currently looking at:

Sony
KD55x7000e ~RM2.6k
KD49x8000e ~RM3k

Samsung
UA55MU6100 ~RM2.7k
UA50NU7400 ~RM3k

LG
55UJ630t ~RM2.4k
49SJ800t ~RM3k

Which one should I go for? Also is it worth going for wcg ie 49SJ800t/KD49x8000e/UA50NU7400 but with smaller screen size? Is it worth to get smaller screen size + wcg for the PQ difference?
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LG 49SJ800T

LG 50UK6300PTE

SAMSUNG 49NU7100

which one better? No problem with the budget.
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Features wise , the SJ800T is the more complete TV , hence the " better " TV but with a higher price tag .


Just remember the LG ones are IPS and Samsung TVs are VA .

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Anyone is looking for 4K TV under 3000 can go to IOI Mall Aeon Puchong Jaya.

They are selling Panasonic 55' 4K Ultra HD Smart TV TH-55FX600K for RM 2999.
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guys, what is the different between LG UK6300 & UK6320?..
beside the magic remote included or no maybe?
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guys, what is the different between LG UK6300 & UK6320?..
beside the magic remote included or no maybe?
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If it's possible , spend a little more for 55 " UK6500 , UK6320 utilizes one of those infamous RGBW TV Panels .


6320 still has the magic remote , just different colors .
The higher end model has a silver matte finish . Beside that , not much of a difference.

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QUOTE(AKUJEFF @ Oct 26 2018, 04:23 PM)
Anyone is looking for 4K TV under 3000 can go to IOI Mall Aeon Puchong Jaya.

They are selling Panasonic 55' 4K Ultra HD Smart TV TH-55FX600K for RM 2999.
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1 ringgit under 3k smile.gif
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Hi sifu, my Samsung UA40H5008AR showing some defect and i claim warranty from SengHeng. But this model no longer have they said and they give me RM900 as compensation.

Which tv 55'/60' should i get under RM3k from SengHeng? Viewing distance about 10ft. Main usage Astro, Online streaming and some bluray.

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Hi sifu, my Samsung UA40H5008AR showing some defect and i claim warranty from SengHeng. But this model no longer have they said and they give me RM900 as compensation.

Which tv 55'/60' should i get under RM3k from SengHeng? Viewing distance about 10ft. Main usage Astro, Online streaming and some bluray.

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Within your budget , the 55 inches of Sony X7000F is a good deal . It's the brightest entry level 4k TV you can find within this price range.

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If it's possible , spend a little more for 55 " UK6500 , UK6320 utilizes one of those infamous RGBW TV Panels .
6320 still has the magic remote , just different colors .
The higher end model has a silver matte finish . Beside that , not much of a difference.
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samsung 58" NU7103 - RM2,599

good deal?
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samsung 58" NU7103 - RM2,599

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Anyone here already bought Sony kd55x7500f ? Tested at HN, but I found out the black when the movies have the black strip upper and lower side is not black enough. any tips to blacken that area?
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For the Sony KD49X7000F , if i buy from lazada, will the warranty be from any Sony outlet or do I have to only send back to Lazada seller if there is a problem with the TV?
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QUOTE(drbone @ Oct 29 2018, 09:36 PM)
For the Sony KD49X7000F , if i buy from lazada, will the warranty be from any Sony outlet or do I have to only send back to Lazada seller if there is a problem with the TV?
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Sony. Bought mine from goshop then registered warranty online at sony website, just need to key in serial number.
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Anyone here already bought Sony kd55x7500f ? Tested at HN, but I found out the black when the movies  have the black strip upper and lower side is not black enough. any tips to blacken that area?
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That's the inherent flaws of having low contrast from IPS panels .

The Sony IPS TV has something called " advanced contrast enhancer " settings , which can improve the black levels to a certain extend. But this will crush a lot of dark details and make all the near black / darker scenes lose all their impacts . Sadly there is really no good solution to this. The alternative is to get a VA-TV instead.

Sitting from a distance and watching the TV with some ambient lights on , it should not be too noticeable . This is also why people recommend an IPS TV for a living room which is usually bright and large.



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QUOTE(RaePyng @ Oct 29 2018, 08:05 PM)
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Damn good deal. Where at? I bought Samsung 55NU7400 at just above RM3k. Yours seems like a steal.
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Damn good deal. Where at? I bought Samsung 55NU7400 at just above RM3k. Yours seems like a steal.
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just search nu7103 at 11street. seller senheng. free belkin plug

can apply RM120 discount voucher + rm50 shopback

end up around rm2.5k

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Hi. Can u guys help me to decide which one to choose between 4K UHD LG6300 & 4K UHD Samsung NU7100 please? Understand d difference between this 2 is LG is RGBW panel and Samsung is VA. This tv is for my hall(small hall) and both has their pro n cons.

LG6300
-Has additional features with bluetooth and wifi supports 5.1ghz
-LGwebos seems to be more up-to-date and allow us to upgrade the version to the latest one(if they have new v of it)
-additional features with magic remote that supports ai function(1 of d things that attracted me) and easy to navigate
-double panel which i know this is 1 of d disadvantage interms of the colour. But is also an adv for me interms of d hardness i guess? Cuz i have small kids at home that is really active and 1 of my kid banged d current tv w her toy and d panel is cracked(thats d reason why we r buying a new tv)

Samsung NU7100
-no bluetooth and does not support wifi 5.1ghz
-samsung int web browser seems to be quite slow
-Pic n colour wise is superb compare to LG
-uses VA which is 1 panel (not really sure if this is okay in terms of the hardness as I have a really really active kid and afraid of she banging her toy to d tv again which can cause crack easily)

Really need u guys to help me w decision urgently as my husb is making noise cuz im taking to much time to make a decision.

Tyia ðŸ˜
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Sony. Bought mine from goshop then registered warranty online at sony website, just need to key in serial number.
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Samsung's web browser for my NU7400 is quite smooth and intuitive. No complains at all.
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No regret as my previous tv was non 4k and 30" only. Plus I don't utilize the smart tv feature as I already have an androidbox.

As an average user I'm satisfied.
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Bought already LG 49SJ800T for rm2750. Is it a wise move? Hope not regret it..
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Hi. Can u guys help me to decide which one to choose between 4K UHD LG6300 & 4K UHD Samsung NU7100 please? Understand d difference between this 2 is LG is RGBW panel and Samsung is VA. This tv is for my hall(small hall) and both has their pro n cons.

LG6300
-Has additional features with bluetooth and wifi supports 5.1ghz
-LGwebos seems to be more up-to-date and allow us to upgrade the version to the latest one(if they have new v of it)
-additional features with magic remote that supports ai function(1 of d things that attracted me) and easy to navigate
-double panel which i know this is 1 of d disadvantage interms of the colour. But is also an adv for me interms of d hardness i guess? Cuz i have small kids at home that is really active and 1 of my kid banged d current tv w her toy and d panel is cracked(thats d reason why we r buying a new tv)

Samsung NU7100
-no bluetooth and does not support wifi 5.1ghz
-samsung int web browser seems to be quite slow
-Pic n colour wise is superb compare to LG
-uses VA which is 1 panel (not really sure if this is okay in terms of the hardness as I have a really really active kid and afraid of she banging her toy to d tv again which can cause crack easily)

Really need u guys to help me w decision urgently as my husb is making noise cuz im taking to much time to make a decision.

Tyia ðŸ˜
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I don't think the UK6300 is more sturdy . Obviously if the screen is being hit by something with really strong force , its going to crack . But normally this shouldn't be happening unless a baseball bat is flying towards the TV screen ohmy.gif

Both TV also have a pretty sturdy stands compare to last year , assuming you aren't going to wall mount them.

The disadvantages of RGBW panel are only going to be obvious if you sit very close to the TV . Even then , unless you have another 4K TV beside for a side by side comparison, you will likely not notice the difference.

For a family TV in a living hall, I will say the more user - friendly and intuitive experience from magic remote & webOS , plus the wider viewing angles from this LG TV is definitely going to provide more of an edge to your family viewing experience .

The NU7100 is more suitable for smaller room , darker and solo viewing experience ( due to the narrow viewing angles ) . And most parent don't want their kids watching TV in a very dark room especially if they are very young .


However , if you are truly concerned about the loss of color volumes from RGBW TV , the Sony X7000F is also a good choice . It may be a weebit more expensive though .


QUOTE(errorism @ Oct 30 2018, 08:47 AM)
Bought already LG 49SJ800T for rm2750. Is it a wise move? Hope not regret it..
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Try running some 4k HDR demos to see if you are impressed .

A bunch of free 4k TV demos can be downloaded from here , put it into an USB drive and connect to your TV .


QUOTE(DrPitchard @ Oct 29 2018, 10:37 PM)
Damn good deal. Where at? I bought Samsung 55NU7400 at just above RM3k. Yours seems like a steal.
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Your TV is a little better since its coverage of color space is wider than the NU7100 series .

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Anyone here already bought Sony kd55x7500f ? Tested at HN, but I found out the black when the movies  have the black strip upper and lower side is not black enough. any tips to blacken that area?
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Dim the room and lower the backlight brightness.
There's nothing much you can do given that its a technical limitation.
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QUOTE(Yasmine_isha18 @ Oct 30 2018, 05:11 AM)
Hi. Can u guys help me to decide which one to choose between 4K UHD LG6300 & 4K UHD Samsung NU7100 please? Understand d difference between this 2 is LG is RGBW panel and Samsung is VA. This tv is for my hall(small hall) and both has their pro n cons.

LG6300
-Has additional features with bluetooth and wifi supports 5.1ghz
-LGwebos seems to be more up-to-date and allow us to upgrade the version to the latest one(if they have new v of it)
-additional features with magic remote that supports ai function(1 of d things that attracted me) and easy to navigate
-double panel which i know this is 1 of d disadvantage interms of the colour. But is also an adv for me interms of d hardness i guess? Cuz i have small kids at home that is really active and 1 of my kid banged d current tv w her toy and d panel is cracked(thats d reason why we r buying a new tv)

Samsung NU7100
-no bluetooth and does not support wifi 5.1ghz
-samsung int web browser seems to be quite slow
-Pic n colour wise is superb compare to LG
-uses VA which is 1 panel (not really sure if this is okay in terms of the hardness as I have a really really active kid and afraid of she banging her toy to d tv again which can cause crack easily)

Really need u guys to help me w decision urgently as my husb is making noise cuz im taking to much time to make a decision.

Tyia ðŸ˜
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Last two months i compared exactly the same models as you mentioned. And i go for LG.

abit lazy to elaborate more but if these two model you wanted to choose,LG wont go wrong. And price wise also cheaper. smile.gif
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Samsung's web browser for my NU7400 is quite smooth and intuitive. No complains at all.
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Is the web browser version is d same as NU7100? And does it allow u to install apps such as astro on the go?
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Hi All,

I recently received a call form the Panasonic service centre that by 4.5 year old 50†LED tv is beyond economical repair. Looking through the thread I fond these 2 suggestions among the most recent:

1) Panasonic 55' 4K Ultra HD Smart TV TH-55FX600K for RM 2999 ( Aeon IOI mall)
2) Samsung 58" NU7103 for RM 2,699.00 (Seng Heng)
Since I’m totally clueless when it comes to TV’s ap would really appreciate it if the sifu’s here could kindly advice their best suggestion (doesn’t have to necessarily be any of the tv’s mentioned above), and the best place to buy it from. Thanking all of you in advance for your kind advice

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QUOTE(Convael @ Oct 30 2018, 09:33 AM)
I don't think the UK6300 is more sturdy . Obviously if the screen is being hit by something really with strong force , its going to crack . But normally this shouldn't be happening unless a baseball bat is flying towards the TV screen ohmy.gif

Both TV also have a pretty sturdy stands compare to last year , assuming you aren't going to wall mount them.

The disadvantages of RGBW panel are only going to be obvious if you sit very close to the TV . Even then , unless you have another 4K TV beside for a side by side comparison, you will likely not notice the difference. 

For a family TV in a living hall, I will say the more user - friendly and intuitive experience from magic remote & webOS , plus the wider viewing angles from this LG TV is definitely going to provide more of an edge to your family viewing experience .

The NU7100 is more suitable for smaller room , darker and solo viewing experience ( due to the narrow viewing angles ) . And most parent don't want their kids watching TV in a very dark room especially if they are very young .
However , if you are truly concerned about the loss of color volumes from RGBW TV , the Sony X7000F is also a good choice . It may be a weebit more expensive though .
Try running some 4k HDR demos to see if you are impressed .

A bunch of free 4k TV demos can be downloaded from here , put it into an USB drive and connect to your TV .
Your TV is a little better since its coverage of color space is wider than the NU7100 series .
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Yes i'm goin to wall mount d tv and d existing tv(which is cracked also is wall mounted).
My living room is small(plus minus a bit more bigger than studio house size). Seems all d comments for UK6300 all is for big space due to ips panel. My husb is leaning to Samsung NU7100 due to bright n sharper colour wise. But i prefer d UK6300 due to extra features such as bluetooth, wifi 5.1ghz, allow us to install some app such as astro on the go n magic remote navigations. However i understand the UK6300 rear inputs are nearly flush with d back of d tv which i'm afraid might be problematic to us to wall mount d tv when all cables are used.

In terms of d price, not much difference since senheng is doing a promo of Samsung 49" NU7100 for RM1699(with 450 pts) only and Lazada selling LG 49" UK6300 with magic remote and bracket for RM1839. Again. I can't decide which is d best for me!!! 😭😭

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QUOTE(shinoxun @ Oct 30 2018, 09:45 AM)
Last two months i compared exactly the same models as you mentioned. And i go for LG.

abit lazy to elaborate more but if these two model you wanted to choose,LG wont go wrong.  And price wise also cheaper. smile.gif
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Thanks. But it doesn't help me in making a decision 😂
#sohardtochoose
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QUOTE(babloo79 @ Oct 30 2018, 10:38 AM)
Hi All,

I recently received a call form the Panasonic service centre that by 4.5 year old 50†LED tv is beyond economical repair. Looking through the thread I fond these 2 suggestions among the most recent:

1) Panasonic 55' 4K Ultra HD Smart TV TH-55FX600K for RM 2999 ( Aeon IOI mall)
2) Samsung 58" NU7103 for RM 2,699.00 (Seng Heng)
Since I’m totally clueless when it comes to TV’s ap would really appreciate it if the sifu’s here could kindly advice their best suggestion (doesn’t have to necessarily be any of the tv’s mentioned above), and the best place to buy it from. Thanking all of you in advance for your kind advice
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I just purchased Panasonic 55' 4K Ultra HD Smart TV TH-55FX600K for RM 2999 at Aeon IOI mall too and so far what i can said is the TV is awesome lolz .. mostly use it to play PS4 Pro. no regret !! rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

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Is the web browser version is d same as NU7100? And does it allow u to install apps such as astro on the go?
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I believed the Tizen has yet to be updated to support Astro go , only the webOS does.


In your case , I think your decision is the more optimal one as the TV usability and viewing experience for the family is more important than picture quality alone .


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QUOTE(AKUJEFF @ Oct 30 2018, 11:13 AM)
I just purchased Panasonic 55' 4K Ultra HD Smart TV TH-55FX600K for RM 2999 at Aeon IOI mall too and so far what i can said is the TV is awesome lolz .. mostly use it to play PS4 Pro. no regret !!  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
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Thanks for sharing your experience..... How are the smart TV features? I would mostly be using it for netflix/ youtube.....TQ
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QUOTE(Convael @ Oct 30 2018, 11:39 AM)
I believed the Tizen has yet to be updated to support Astro go , only the webOS does.
In your case  , I think your decision is the more optimal one as the TV usability and viewing experience for the family is more important than picture quality alone .
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Samsung NU7100 pros i see is only d picture quality is superb and also d inputs are all at d side(no rear inputs) which is good for me to wall mount d tv. Bt then again i still can't decide which is best for me. Urghhh
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Thanks for sharing your experience..... How are the smart TV features?  I would mostly be using it for netflix/ youtube.....TQ
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easy to use, just one click on button. and there you go Netflix nor Youtube rclxms.gif

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easy to use, just one click on button. and there you go Netflix nor Youtube  rclxms.gif
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Thanks Jeff..... Did it include free delivery when you purchased the unit from Aeon?
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Thanks Jeff..... Did it include free delivery when you purchased the unit from Aeon?
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i have no idea about the delivery fee because i cannot wait for the delivery guy to send my TV hahaha. So, i carry it home immediately rclxm9.gif
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Thanks. But it doesn't help me in making a decision 😂
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Normally I'd recommend a VA TV over an IPS TV but in your case, I'd recommend the LG. Its picture quality (pixel construction, colour gamut, brightness) may not be as good as the Samsung's but it is more feature packed in terms of content and usability. It can be quite a hassle to buy a wifi dongle or connect a cable to the Samsung TV for internet.


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Normally I'd recommend a VA TV over an IPS TV but in your case, I'd recommend the LG. Its picture quality (pixel construction, colour gamut, brightness) may not be as good as the Samsung's but it is more feature packed in terms of content and usability. It can be quite a hassle to buy a wifi dongle or connect a cable to the Samsung TV for internet.
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Sorry, if i misunderstood.....meaning its doesn't have built in Wifi?
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Sorry, if i misunderstood.....meaning its doesn't have built in Wifi?
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It does support WIFI but only the 2.4 ghz version , not the 5.0 ghz .

Which means if you are trying to stream videos of very high quality bitrate , such as 4k ripped files over the router from your pc / laptop, it is going to be problematic .
But for the casual streaming such as Netflix , Amazon primes and Youtube , it is more than enough as the required bandwidth is much lower ( same goes for the video quality)
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Sorry, if i misunderstood.....meaning its doesn't have built in Wifi?
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easy to use, just one click on button. and there you go Netflix nor Youtube  rclxms.gif
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Is the web browser version is d same as NU7100? And does it allow u to install apps such as astro on the go?
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If it's possible , spend a little more for 55 " UK6500 , UK6320 utilizes one of those infamous RGBW TV Panels .
6320 still has the magic remote , just different colors .
The higher end model has a silver matte finish . Beside that , not much of a difference.
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Sorry typo. Netflix which is available in this tv need to pay subscription?
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But i get free 12month IFLIX subscription from Panasonic. rclxms.gif
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In terms of d price, not much difference since senheng is doing a promo of Samsung 49" NU7100 for RM1699(with 450 pts) only and Lazada selling LG 49" UK6300 with magic remote and bracket for RM1839. Again. I can't decide which is d best for me!!! 😭😭
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Hi All.... Need your kind advice again....my tv will be roughly 11 feet away from my couch and im planning to get a UHD 4k TV.....what would be the ideal size to get?

Thanks in,advance for your kind advice
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Hi All.... Need your kind advice again....my tv will be roughly 11 feet away from my couch and im planning to get a UHD 4k TV.....what would be the ideal size to get?

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depends what u watch primarily.

poor quality stuff, big TV will be really bad, u will hate it. even at 11ft.

some might read charts and say 100in.

me, i will suggest u do 55-60in.
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depends what u watch primarily.

poor quality stuff, big TV will be really bad, u will hate it. even at 11ft.

some might read charts and say 100in.

me, i will suggest u do 55-60in.
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Thanks AVFAN....... what tv model/ brand would you recommend for a tv of this size.... I would be mainly watching satellite tv and netflix ....Thanks again for your kind advice
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Thanks AVFAN....... what tv model/ brand would you recommend for a tv of this size.... I would be mainly watching satellite tv and netflix ....Thanks again for your kind advice
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there are so many threads on "what tv to buy"... thousands of comments already... just read some of them.

diff people look for diff things... not just picture quality.

e.g. some like androidtv, others dun care.

some need usb playback with dts audio, some dun care.


actually, at this time, 50-60" 4k hdr tv's are pretty affordable.

more so for models 1 yr old or so, not fresh new launch.

for astro/netflix, i think rm3-3.5k can get u something good already.

just read a bit... no shortage of threads and comments on this subject.

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Nov 2 2018, 12:54 PM)
there are so many threads on "what tv to buy"... thousands of comments already... just read some of them.

diff people look for diff things... not just picture quality.

e.g. some like androidtv, others dun care.

some need usb playback with dts audio, some dun care.
actually, at this time, 50-60" 4k hdr tv's are pretty affordable.

more so for models 1 yr old or so, not fresh new launch.

for astro/netflix, i think rm3-3.5k can get u something good already.

just read a bit... no shortage of threads and comments on this subject.
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Thanks..... indeed have gone through he threads...so many options...its making me confused...smile.gif do you know of any good offer that is a great deal in your opinion.....
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Thanks..... indeed have gone through he threads...so many options...its making me confused...smile.gif do you know of any good offer that is a great deal in your opinion.....
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For me, the best way is to visit a few shops, see yrself, ask questions, get an idea what is available, features, price, warranty, what u want.

Then do reading, reviews, see what users say.

I will not just look at specs... features, warranty, service are impt.

Shortlist 2...then go shopping... look for promotions, fairs, etc.

Sorry, cant and wont suggest specific brands models... u need to shortlist yrself.
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Just get the biggest TV you can afford.
With the type & qty connection input/output that you need.
And the basic user friendly system that you are comfortable with.

The rest I let my android box supplement the extra that I need.

for me last time I choose sony kd55x7000e rm3k total incl. with 5yrs wrty as well as wall bracket & installation.
After you decided and bought 1, stop researching other tv brand/model, less you will never truly be peaceful.
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Nov 2 2018, 02:12 PM)
For me, the best way is to visit a few shops, see yrself, ask questions, get an idea what is available, features, price, warranty, what u want.

Then do reading, reviews, see what users say.

I will not just look at specs... features, warranty, service are impt.

Shortlist 2...then go shopping... look for promotions, fairs, etc.

Sorry, cant and wont suggest specific brands models... u need to shortlist yrself.
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Thanks again for all you pointers.... will indeed look out for these. To be honest, i usually do as you suggested and take my time before i make an investment for a long term thing like a TV....However my TV suddenly failed and my wife is going crazy with the kids without the tv.....smile.gif
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QUOTE(MrMocha @ Nov 2 2018, 02:37 PM)
Just get the biggest TV you can afford.
With the type & qty connection input/output that you need.
And the basic user friendly system that you are comfortable with.

The rest I let my android box supplement the extra that I need.

for me last time I choose sony kd55x7000e rm3k total incl. with 5yrs wrty as well as wall bracket & installation.
After you decided and bought 1, stop researching other tv brand/model, less you will never truly be peaceful.
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Thanks Mr Mocha......Great advice indeed.....where did you buy your TV from? Sounds like a good deal....
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I got a deal sony 55 x7500f with 5 years direct warranty from Sony + free bracket price at rm2999.
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I got a deal sony 55 x7500f with 5 years direct warranty from Sony + free bracket price at rm2999.
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I got a deal sony 55 x7500f with 5 years direct warranty from Sony + free bracket price at rm2999.
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Great deal indeed... Amy i kindly know where you got this deal from? Thanks
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Great deal indeed... Amy i kindly know where you got this deal from? Thanks
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Saw it from fair in Pg. Anybody interested we can organise a group buy and nego better price biggrin.gif
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Saw it from fair in Pg. Anybody interested we can organise a group buy and nego better price biggrin.gif
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Sony 55x7500f rm 2897
Lg 50uk6500 rm2598
Sharp 60ua6800x rm3598
Sharp 50ua6800x rm2697
Hisense 50m5010uw rm2297
Panasonic 49fx600k rm2299
Samsung 55nu7100 rm2775
Lg 55sk80 rm3928
Lg 55uk65 rm 3398

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Ipc harvey norman
Sony 55x7500f rm 2897
Lg 50uk6500 rm2598
Sharp 60ua6800x rm3598
Sharp 50ua6800x rm2697
Hisense 50m5010uw rm2297
Panasonic 49fx600k rm2299
Samsung 55nu7100 rm2775
Lg 55sk80 rm3928
Lg 55uk65 rm 3398
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For sony come with how many years warranty?
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Thanks for the reply. I might increase my budget to buy 65 inch. Is KD-65X7000F a good buy for its price ( RM 3800 ) or is there other i should look for?

This is my first 4k TV, do tv nowadays upscale well with Astro content? Im really concern about this.

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Thanks for the reply. I might increase my budget to buy 65 inch. Is KD-65X7000F a good buy for its price ( RM 3800 ) or is there other i should look for?

This is my first 4k TV, do tv nowadays upscale well with Astro content? Im really concern about this.

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1080p should be still quite watchable on a 65 inches 4k screen , 1080p bluray quality videos look almost passable as 4k . 720p on the other hand , may look a little blurry despite most of the big brands TVs come with a good upscaling capability.

Streaming SD content (480p or lower ) is simply too blurry to watch , because the streaming video quality ( bitrate ) is way lower than the source files .

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samsung - 55" nu7400 rm3k (lazada) rm3461(shop)
dynamic crystal colour
my view : contrast very bright, colour wash out

philips 55" put6102s rm2,299 (lazada) rm2799 (desa home)
micro dimming
desa home salesman demo 4k video for me on LG, Samsung, Philips.
colour very natural, not over saturated.

sony 55" x85f
triluminos colour
my view : very well balance TV but high price.

lg 55" uk75
nano cell
my view : i find it less contrast.


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I'm using LG C8 currently.

Plan to buy led tv for parents.
they often watch aDrama snooze off. tv remain On. so Oled is not recommended.

some how i'm impress by philips's natural colour, black level & read about software micro dimming but no hdr. i can see object in very dark scene and not too expose in bright areas.
the smart tv features is crappy, slow, i'm will be using tv box. so focus more on picture quality.

nu7400 was my first choice due to HDR+ & contrast before i tested philips.
anyone own philips tv here? can advise?


samsung - 55" nu7400 (VA) rm3k (lazada) rm3461(shop)
reason : dynamic crystal colour
my view : contrast very bright which i like but colour & bright area sometimes wash out. motion rate is poor.

philips 55" put6102s (IPS) rm2,299 (lazada) rm2799 (desa home)
reason : micro dimming
desa home salesman demo 4k video for me on LG, Samsung, Philips.
My view : colour very natural, not over saturated.

sony 55" x85f rm4.8k (lazada) rm5,399 (senheng)
reason : triluminos colour . lower model x70 & x75 none.
my view : very well balance TV but high price.

lg 55" uk75 (IPS) rm3,999
reason : nano cell
my view : colour ok, i find it less contrast

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How can you tell the picture quality of the TVs from the store ?

Desa home do not calibrate their TV under the same settings AFAIK.
Dynamic / Vivid mode from one TV isn't going to look exactly the same on another as well . The same reason why you are not recommended to use the white balance settings from the review sites.

Especially when displays in shop are usually in their most inaccurate modes , whites are overly blue , colors are oversaturated . This is apparently the most effective way to impress the customers . Without the proper knowledge and equipment , it is impossible to determine the true capabilities of the said TV.

I have heard of shops ( not Desa Home) that were hard at work pushing the sales of a certain brand , intentionally changing the setting of other TV to dimmer mode , while the "star brand" of the month are displayed in the center with dynamic contrast maxed out to steal the spotlight.


Conclusion , what you can see in the shop is fairly limited . You can look at the TV designs , the anti-reflection coatings , the viewing angles , anything but the picture quality .

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How can you tell the picture quality of the TVs from the store ?

Desa home do not calibrate their TV under the same settings AFAIK. 
Dynamic / Vivid mode from one TV isn't going to look the exactly the same on another as well . The same reason why you are not recommended to use the white balance settings from the review sites.

Especially when displays in shop are usually in their most inaccurate modes , whites are overly blue , colors are oversaturated . This is apparently the most effective way to impress the customers  . Without the proper knowledge and equipment , it is impossible to determine the true capabilities of the said TV.

I have heard of shops ( not Desa Home) that were hard at work pushing the sales of a certain brand , intentionally changing the setting of other TV to dimmer mode , while the "star brand" of the month are displayed in the center with dynamic contrast maxed out to steal the spotlight.
Conclusion , what you can see in the shop is fairly limited . You can look at the TV designs , the anti-reflection coatings , the viewing angles , anything but the picture quality .
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you got your point.
so which TV satisfied you within your budget now. please share
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you got your point.
so which TV satisfied you within your budget now. please share
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If you are buying TV for your parent , they most probably don't watch enough HDR for the HDR-related features to really matter ( primarily the Nano cell , the Triluminous colors , the Dynamic crystal colors ).


Speaking from experience , the older generation seems to like the LG 's magic remote much more so than other TV remotes .
The LG 'S webOS is also more user friendly and easier to use compare than the other . The Samsung's Tizen is not too bad , but its smart remote is a step downgrade from the LG's magic remote . The Sony Android OS is sluggish , it's really annoying sometimes it can take up to over 10 seconds + to respond . The Philips Android OS is just as slow as the Sony's.


The micro dimming doesn't do much . It tend to dim some of the brighter highlights on screen because the dimming algorithm isn't very advanced at all . It is very identical with Samsung's so called " UHD " dimming.


As for the different colors , you can only really tell the difference when you are looping HDR demos and comparing them with those high end Quantum-Dots TV from Samsung lines . The LG TV probably isn't the best TV to look for high contrast because it is an IPS TV . If you like how the colors on Philips look as an SDR TV , you can probably adjust the settings of the other 3 TV to look like it since all the other 3 support for a wider color space coverage.


In terms of value and features , the NU7400 is probably the best out of the 4 . But for usability , I would probably go for the LG model . If they often watch a lot of content below 1080p , the Sony might be the better pick .

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If you are buying TV for your parent , they most probably don't watch enough HDR for the HDR-related features to really matter ( primarily the Nano cell , the Triluminous colors , the Dynamic crystal colors ).
Speaking from experience , the older generation seems to like the LG 's magic remote much more so than other TV remotes .
The LG 'S webOS is also more user friendly and easier to use compare than the other . The Samsung's Tizen is not too bad , but its smart remote is a step downgrade from the LG's magic remote . The Sony Android OS is sluggish , it's really annoying sometimes it can take up to over 10 seconds + to respond . The Philips Android OS is just as slow as the Sony's.
The micro dimming doesn't do much  . It tend to dims some of the brighter highlights on screen because the dimming algorithm isn't very advanced at all . It is very identical with Samsung's so called  " UHD " dimming.
As for the different colors , you can only really tell the difference unless you are looping HDR demos and comparing them with those high end Quantum-Dots TV from Samsung lines . The LG TV probably isn't the best TV to look for high contrast because it is an IPS TV . If you like how the colors on Philips look as an SDR TV , you can probably adjust the settings of the other 3 TV to look like it since all the other 3 support for a wider color space coverage.
In terms of value and features , the NU7400 is probably the best out of the 4 . But for usability , I would probably go for the LG model .  If they often watch a lot of content below 1080p , the Sony might be the better pick .
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Either Samsung nu7400 or x85f. My vote for Sony!

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senheng new deal really tempting.

sony 49" x7500f @ 2369
samsung 50" nu7400 @ 2299


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Which 65" 4K HDR TV is better for 4k console gaming and watching sports;

Sony X7000F or Samsung NU-7100?
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Hi,

Which 65" 4K HDR TV is better for 4k console gaming and watching sports;

Sony X7000F or Samsung NU-7100?
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X7000F.

Or pay a bit more for the NU7400 which can produce better HDR colors .

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Dear all sifus,
I am relatively noob in regards to 4k. Have been using a Samsung Plasma 3d 51in for past 5 years, but I am planning to get 4k soon, 55in size. Budget is about Rm2k to 3k. What would be your recommendations and any good sale at the moment?

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QUOTE(Convael @ Nov 6 2018, 12:10 PM)
X7000F.

Or pay a bit more for the NU7400 which can produce better HDR colors .
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Bro, my budget only around RM4K. NU7400 is out of my reach.

Anyways thanks for your advise.
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I have an issue choosing between a 55-inch NU7100 and 50-inch NU7400. Is the difference in picture quality enough to get a smaller size? Price agak agak same.
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QUOTE(Convael @ Nov 6 2018, 12:10 PM)
X7000F.

Or pay a bit more for the NU7400 which can produce better HDR colors .
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Bro, can elaborate more on why choosing x7000f better than nu7100?
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What about nu8000? Is it comparable to the Sony? Or would it be more comparable to the x750 / x850? It will be in the living room. But 90% of the time we (me and my wife) will be on the sofa directly facing it. Also I noticed the prices in Malaysia are lower than SG. Any idea why?
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Bro, my budget only around RM4K. NU7400 is out of my reach.

Anyways thanks for your advise.
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I actually don't understand what's up with pricing of nu7400 , the 55" is barely 3.2 k but the 65 " is almost double of it .
Especially when the model belongs to one of the basic 4k TV family .


The NU7400 has more smart TV features , such as the smart remote with voice control , cable management , the support of 5ghz WIFI , blue tooth etc etc .
It is also capable of producing HDR colors a bit better than the NU7100 .

Normally I wouldn't suggest paying so much more over the NU7100 , but since you are primarily playing games , the HDR performance should be within your consideration.


Regardless , if you end up paying 5-6k for a 65" TV , might as well get the 65" of NU8000 which is vastly more superior than all of TVs mentioned above.

The 55 inches of NU8000 can also be found at around ~ 4k , possibly lower with all the discount sales on the upcoming 11/11.
It also has a native 100/120hz refresh rate , which will provide a more pleasant experience for watching 24p movies .


QUOTE(Gaddy23 @ Nov 6 2018, 05:29 PM)
What about nu8000? Is it comparable to the Sony? Or would it be more comparable to the x750 / x850? It will be in the living room. But 90% of the time we (me and my wife) will be on the sofa directly facing it. Also I noticed the prices in Malaysia are lower than SG. Any idea why?
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NU8000 is superior than any of models mentioned above , especially if we are talking about the performance of HDR.
It is still probably the best mid-range TV you can buy in MY since Sony refuses to release 55/65 inches of X9000F here.

Do take note that the NU8000 is of VA panels ( which has narrow viewing angles ) , thus the best picture quality is only reserved for the seats directly in front of the TV .

Localized pricing isn't exactly new , just like Sony TVs are so much cheaper in China compare to the other region . There are many factors behind it . AFAIK , the SG TV shares many similarities with the MY sets .


QUOTE(takwah @ Nov 6 2018, 04:19 PM)
Bro, can elaborate more on why choosing x7000f better than nu7100?
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First of all , at this price range , one TV isn't definitely better than another. I am simply suggesting a TV that is better suited for your viewing habits .

The primary difference of the two is still the characteristic of VA and IPS screens.
The X7000F is also a bit brighter than NU7100 . My problem with Samsung NU7100 is , their CE dimming always dim the small highlights of the picture which may cause HDR experience to lose some of their impacts . I also find the Sony TV comes packing with better gray uniformity , which is better for watching sports .

This post has been edited by Convael: Nov 6 2018, 06:13 PM
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QUOTE(suffeylp @ Nov 6 2018, 07:17 AM)
senheng new deal really tempting.

sony 49" x7500f @ 2369
samsung 50" nu7400 @ 2299
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guys between these two which is better?

my purpose is for astro, ps4, and maybe streaming..

is sony ips black level bad? how about the samsung?

can share what are the advantages one have over the other.

thanks
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https://s.lazada.com.my/s.WFRG

https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/tcl/p-series-2017-p607

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theverge.c...-best-budget-tv

May consider this if 11/11 drop below 2k
Reason full array dimming and wide colour gamut
Question is durability

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QUOTE(szecheng @ Nov 6 2018, 08:58 PM)
https://s.lazada.com.my/s.WFRG

https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/tcl/p-series-2017-p607

May consider this if 11/11 drop below 2k
Reason full array dimming and wide colour gamut
Question is durability
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https://s.lazada.com.my/s.WLpo
This link indicate below 2k
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Hi,

Need advice from all sifus here( i tumpang thread hehe). I'm looking for a 55" tv size. Usage primarily for watching astro,netflix,youtube and probably some gaming on my ps4 pro. The tv will be placed in the living room which is not too big, the lighting is neither too bright nor too dim either. I tried to keep my budget below 5k. Android TV doesnt really matter to me imo. Currently torn between a few options below:

1) Samsung NU8000
2) Sony X8500f
3) LG UK7500



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Hi,

Need advice from all sifus here( i tumpang thread hehe). I'm looking for a 55" tv size. Usage primarily for watching astro,netflix,youtube and probably some gaming on my ps4 pro. The tv will be placed in the living room which is not too big, the lighting is neither too bright nor too dim either. I tried to keep my budget below 5k. Android TV doesnt really matter to me imo. Currently torn between a few options below:

1) Samsung NU8000
2) Sony X8500f
3) LG UK7500
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Another mention

LGSK8000
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Another mention

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QUOTE(Convael @ Nov 6 2018, 05:32 PM)
I actually don't understand what's up with pricing of nu7400 , the 55"  is barely 3.2 k but the 65 " is almost double of it .
Especially when the model belongs to one of the basic 4k TV family .
The NU7400 has more smart TV features , such as the smart remote with voice control , cable management , the support of 5ghz WIFI , blue tooth etc etc .
It is also capable of producing HDR colors a bit better than the NU7100 .

Normally I wouldn't suggest paying so much more over the NU7100 , but since you are primarily playing games , the HDR performance should be within your consideration.
Regardless , if you end up paying 5-6k for a 65" TV , might as well get the 65" of NU8000 which is vastly more superior than all of TVs mentioned above.

The 55 inches of NU8000 can also be found at around ~ 4k , possibly lower with all the discount sales on the upcoming 11/11.
It also has a native 100/120hz refresh rate , which will provide a more pleasant experience for watching 24p movies .
NU8000 is superior than any of models mentioned above , especially if we are talking about the performance of HDR.
It is still probably the best mid-range TV you can buy in MY since Sony refuses to release 55/65 inches of X9000F here.

Do take note that the NU8000 is of VA panels ( which has narrow viewing angles ) , thus the best picture quality is only reserved for the seats directly in front of the TV .

Localized pricing isn't exactly new , just like Sony TVs are so much cheaper in China compare to the other region . There are many factors behind it . AFAIK , the SG TV shares many similarities with the MY sets .
First of all , at this price range , one TV isn't definitely better than another. I am simply suggesting a TV that is better suited for your viewing habits .

The primary difference of the two is still the characteristic of VA and IPS screens.
The X7000F is also a bit brighter than NU7100 . My problem with Samsung NU7100 is , their CE dimming always dim the small highlights of the picture which may cause HDR experience to lose some of their impacts . I also find the Sony TV comes packing with better gray uniformity , which is better for watching sports .
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Really appreciate the time and effort of bro Convael in giving advise to me.

Looking forward to get the Sony set in the coming 11.11 Sales!

BTW, 65X700F is come with 4 HDMI ports?


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Really appreciate the time and effort of bro Convael in giving advise to me.

Looking forward to get the Sony set in the coming 11.11 Sales!

BTW, 65X700F is come with 4 HDMI ports?
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It does has 4 HDMI ports , but only 2 of them supports full bandwidth (port 2 & 3 ) which is required for 4K HDR signals from game consoles or media players .

(correction the X7000F only has 3 HDMI ports )

QUOTE(suffeylp @ Nov 6 2018, 08:38 PM)
guys between these two which is better?

my purpose is for astro, ps4, and maybe streaming..

is sony ips black level bad? how about the samsung?

can share what are the advantages one have over the other.

thanks
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The poor black levels and black uniformity is a result of employing IPS Panel as their TV screen . You basically have to sacrifice the contrast ratio for wider viewing angles .
But keep in mind that IPS and VA screens don't look very different in a bright room . The ambient lights from our environment is great at masking the true black levels of the TV .

Which is also why it is very difficult to tell the Picture Quality of TV from the electronic shops , because they are mostly displayed in a bright room.

But in a dim / dark room , poor black levels will be instantly noticeable . If you are watching movies on VA , the letterbox bars from the movies are going to appear inky black without distracting you from the immersion. While the black on IPS TV will appear gray-ish and cloudy at times .

If your room is decently lit , go for the Sony . Otherwise just get the Samsung TV .


QUOTE(haziqmckau @ Nov 6 2018, 09:11 PM)
Hi,

Need advice from all sifus here( i tumpang thread hehe). I'm looking for a 55" tv size. Usage primarily for watching astro,netflix,youtube and probably some gaming on my ps4 pro. The tv will be placed in the living room which is not too big, the lighting is neither too bright nor too dim either. I tried to keep my budget below 5k. Android TV doesnt really matter to me imo. Currently torn between a few options below:

1) Samsung NU8000
2) Sony X8500f
3) LG UK7500
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The NU8000 is the best choice at this price range for HDR gaming .
The Sony is the next best option if you watch a lot of low resolution content on the TV .

I am not very fond of LG 's mid-range TV , some of them are decent but it just doesn't offer the best bang for your buck.



QUOTE(szecheng @ Nov 6 2018, 08:58 PM)
https://s.lazada.com.my/s.WFRG

https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/tcl/p-series-2017-p607

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theverge.c...-best-budget-tv

May consider this if 11/11 drop below 2k
Reason full array dimming and wide colour gamut
Question is durability
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Nope , the USA TCL division operates on a different team than the European / Chinese one .

The specific TCL models found on Lazada are essentially the European version . All of them are edge-lit TVs , unlike their superior F.A.L.D counterparts from the USA .
These specific models aren't nearly quite as capable as what was reviewed by rting.

Sadly , as of now the choices we have within the Malaysian market is very limited unless you decide to import them which comes with a big risk.

This post has been edited by Convael: Nov 8 2018, 04:36 AM
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It does has 4 HDMI ports , but only 2 of them supports full bandwidth (port 2 & 3 ) which is required for 4K HDR signals from game consoles or media players .
The poor black levels and black uniformity is a result of employing IPS Panel as their TV screen .  You basically have to sacrifice the contrast ratio for wider viewing angles .
But keep in mind that  IPS and VA screens don't look very different in a bright room . The ambient lights from our environment is great at masking the true black levels of the TV .

Which is also why it is very difficult to tell the Picture Quality of TV from the electronic shops , because they are mostly displayed in a bright room.

But in a dim / dark room , poor black levels will be instantly noticeable . If you are watching movies on VA , the letterbox bars from the movies are going to appear inky black without distracting you from the immersion. While the black on IPS TV will appear gray-ish and cloudy at times .

If your room is decently lit , go for the Sony . Otherwise just get the Samsung TV .
The NU8000 is the best choice at this price range for HDR gaming .
The Sony is the next best option if you watch a lot of low resolution content on the TV .

I am not very fond of LG 's mid-range TV , some of them are decent but it just doesn't offer the best bang for your buck.
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My last tv was KDL-50W800B, may I know what panel this model is using?
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My last tv was KDL-50W800B, may I know what panel this model is using?
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VA .

You can tell the narrow viewing angles easily by moving away from the center of the TV , the colors and brightness will start to look more washed out .

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VA .

You can tell the narrow viewing angles easily by moving away from the center of the TV , the colors and brightness will start to look more washed out .
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Thanks bro!
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Thanks Convael! You're indeed a Guru on TVs. Now I'm being poisoned to go for the next level of TVs after reading tons of TVs namely the LG 55 B8 which is pretty cheap in Malaysia as compared to Singapore.
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QUOTE(Convael @ Nov 7 2018, 03:58 AM)
It does has 4 HDMI ports , but only 2 of them supports full bandwidth (port 2 & 3 ) which is required for 4K HDR signals from game consoles or media players .
The poor black levels and black uniformity is a result of employing IPS Panel as their TV screen .  You basically have to sacrifice the contrast ratio for wider viewing angles .
But keep in mind that  IPS and VA screens don't look very different in a bright room . The ambient lights from our environment is great at masking the true black levels of the TV .

Which is also why it is very difficult to tell the Picture Quality of TV from the electronic shops , because they are mostly displayed in a bright room.

But in a dim / dark room , poor black levels will be instantly noticeable . If you are watching movies on VA , the letterbox bars from the movies are going to appear inky black without distracting you from the immersion. While the black on IPS TV will appear gray-ish and cloudy at times .

If your room is decently lit , go for the Sony . Otherwise just get the Samsung TV .
The NU8000 is the best choice at this price range for HDR gaming .
The Sony is the next best option if you watch a lot of low resolution content on the TV .

I am not very fond of LG 's mid-range TV , some of them are decent but it just doesn't offer the best bang for your buck.
Nope , the USA TCL division operates on a different team than the European / Chinese one .

The specific TCL models found on Lazada are essentially the European version . All of them are edge-lit TVs , unlike their superior F.A.L.D counterparts from the USA .
These specific models aren't nearly quite as capable as what was reviewed by rting.

Sadly , as of now the choices we have within the Malaysian market is very limited unless you decide to import them which comes with a big risk.
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so TLC/Philips micro dimming or samsung uhd dimming is basically software controlled edge lighting. (tipu one la)
NOT the Full Array Local dimming like those in Sony X900, Sammy Qled
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QUOTE(Convael @ Nov 7 2018, 03:58 AM)
The poor black levels and black uniformity is a result of employing IPS Panel as their TV screen .  You basically have to sacrifice the contrast ratio for wider viewing angles .
But keep in mind that  IPS and VA screens don't look very different in a bright room . The ambient lights from our environment is great at masking the true black levels of the TV .

Which is also why it is very difficult to tell the Picture Quality of TV from the electronic shops , because they are mostly displayed in a bright room.

But in a dim / dark room , poor black levels will be instantly noticeable . If you are watching movies on VA , the letterbox bars from the movies are going to appear inky black without distracting you from the immersion. While the black on IPS TV will appear gray-ish and cloudy at times .

If your room is decently lit , go for the Sony . Otherwise just get the Samsung TV .
Thanks sifu,

I think i have to go to store and see it myself how is the black level when in a dim room. Because usually I play PS4 during night, and with lights off, other than that normal usage of astro during day/night.

Other than this, all around, Sony X7500F will be better model than Samsung NU7100 right?


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Sony x85f
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can share reason why? biggrin.gif
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Sony x85f
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can share reason why? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(takwah @ Nov 7 2018, 04:52 AM)
Thanks bro!
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Bro Canveal, why some said KD65X7000F only have 3 HDMI input?

I checked in Sony Malaysia website, they stated only 3 HDMI input while some reseller like Astro GO Shop listed 4 HDMI input.
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QUOTE(takwah @ Nov 8 2018, 01:14 AM)
Bro Canveal, why some said KD65X7000F only have 3 HDMI input?

I checked in Sony Malaysia website, they stated only 3 HDMI input while some reseller like Astro GO Shop listed 4 HDMI input.
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My mistake , I thought you were asking about X7500F .

And you are right , the XF70 (X7000F ) only has 3 HDMI inputs indeed .

All of the big brand's 2018 basic 4K TVs , from Panasonic's FX600 , LG's UK6100 & 6300 , Samsung's NU7100 , NU7400 , Sony's X7000F are all limited to 3 HDMI ports.



QUOTE(suffeylp @ Nov 7 2018, 03:45 PM)
Thanks sifu,

I think i have to go to store and see it myself how is the black level when in a dim room. Because usually I play PS4 during night, and with lights off, other than that normal usage of astro during day/night.

Other than this, all around,  Sony  X7500F will be better model than Samsung NU7100 right?
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I wouldn't say better , but more suitable for your usage perhaps .

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My mistake ,  I thought you were asking about X7500F .

And you are right , the XF70 (X7000F ) only has 3 HDMI inputs indeed .

All of the big brand's 2018 basic 4K TVs , from Panasonic's FX600 , LG's UK6100 & 6300 , Samsung's NU7100 , NU7400 , Sony's X7000F are all limited to 3 HDMI ports.
I wouldn't say better , but more suitable for your usage perhaps  .
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I need at least 4 HDMI inputs, what HDMI splitter you can recommend to me which is good and economical?
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looking for a 55inch tv for parents , mostly movie and youtube in a bright living room.

Any particular model, sifu sifu sekalian. kinda confused with sammy, sony and lg.
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I need at least 4 HDMI inputs, what HDMI splitter you can recommend to me which is good and economical?
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Bro is TCL 65P6US same as R617?

I saw people selling in Lazada and review for TCL TV is good. Any comment?
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Now I am in a dilemma on which to choose, Sony 65X7000F or TCL 65P6US.

Please help!!!!!
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QUOTE(takwah @ Nov 8 2018, 10:24 AM)
Now I am in a dilemma on which to choose, Sony 65X7000F or TCL 65P6US.

Please help!!!!!
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what are the prices for both that you can get?
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QUOTE(takwah @ Nov 8 2018, 10:01 AM)
Bro is TCL 65P6US same as R617?

I saw people selling in Lazada and review for TCL TV is good. Any comment?
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the local TCL model is not the same as the US TCL model R617 .

That particular US model is only available in USA and Canada .



QUOTE(Jerrylum88 @ Nov 8 2018, 09:39 AM)
looking for a 55inch tv for parents , mostly movie and youtube in a bright living room.

Any particular model, sifu sifu sekalian. kinda confused with sammy, sony and lg.
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Sony X7500F sounds good .

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I need at least 4 HDMI inputs, what HDMI splitter you can recommend to me which is good and economical?
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Or spend a little more for X7500F , it has 4 hdmi ports . It is more or less the same as X7000F.

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Hi sifu sekalian,

On my list there are:
1. Sony KD55-x7000f
2. LG 55 UK6500
3. Sharp 50/60 ua6500x
4. Panasonic th55ex600k vs th55fx600k

All listed above is around RM 2.5k - 3.2k.

TV is used in living room. Seating distance about 8ft. I'm in dilemma deciding which 1 to go with.

Most of the time tv will be just for movies. from Kodi, Netflix and some Youtube contents. Also those normal tv channels from Unifi TV.

Any thoughts would like to share with me? Thanks~!
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QUOTE(Convael @ Nov 8 2018, 10:46 AM)
Or spend a little more for X7500F , it has 4 hdmi ports . It is more or less the same as X7000F.
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Bro Convael, what do you think of LGUK7500 vs Sony X8500f vs Samsung NU8000
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why do malaysian prefer other models of the same class (pan fx600k, sony x700f, lg uk6500, sharp ua6500x) over nu7100 so much? what is the problem with the samsung nu7100? Base on rtings.com nu7100 is quite good and for the price its like no brainer. I personally havent had the chance to compare it head to head with the others. For everyday usage dim and bright environement 50-50 which of them has most bang for the ringgit? I beg for the explanation, please, this dilemma is hurting my brain!
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QUOTE(Convael @ Nov 8 2018, 10:46 AM)
Or spend a little more for X7500F , it has 4 hdmi ports . It is more or less the same as X7000F.
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X7500F is out of my budget.

May I know by using hdmi splitter, is there any performance degrade issue compared with a direct port?
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Awesome thread, i really learn a lot about TVs and its techs. I'm planning on getting either Sony 55X70F or Samsung 55NU7100. To my understanding, non of these 2 are android tvs? Which means i cannot install Astro Go or Spotify on it because both OS are Linux base. Is this correct?

Most frequent app i'm using with my android box now is Netflix, Youtube, AstroGO and Spotify. Its connected to a non-smart tv so i plan to move these set into bedroom and get a larger 55" for living room.

If these 2 models dont support AstroGO and Spotify, is there any other method to get them working instead buying another android box?
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Sifu ,need help on these option, senq is having promo and selling these tv as below:

1) 65 inch Samsung NU7300 - RM 3,999
2) 65 inch Samsung NU7100 - RM 3,799
3) 65 inch Sony X70F - RM 3,599
4) 55 inch Sony X75F - RM 2,919, 65inch for RM 4,699 ( abit pricey for this model, dunno whats the difference between x70f and x75f.

Mainly for movies, tvshows and youtube for parents use in a ( moderate brightness living room background)

4k Upscaling for SDR sources and ease of use are my primary concern
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can share reason why?  biggrin.gif
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https://lcdtvbuyingguide.com/hdtv/best-4k-t...ut-compare.html
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QUOTE(demogorgon @ Nov 9 2018, 10:43 AM)
Awesome thread, i really learn a lot about TVs and its techs. I'm planning on getting either Sony 55X70F or Samsung 55NU7100. To my understanding, non of these 2 are android tvs? Which means i cannot install Astro Go or Spotify on it because both OS are Linux base. Is this correct?

Most frequent app i'm using with my android box now is Netflix, Youtube, AstroGO and Spotify. Its connected to a non-smart tv so i plan to move these set into bedroom and get a larger 55" for living room.

If these 2 models dont support AstroGO and Spotify, is there any other method to get them working instead buying another android box?
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LG TV has the best Astro Go interface
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QUOTE(takwah @ Nov 9 2018, 03:02 AM)
X7500F is out of my budget.

May I know by using hdmi splitter, is there any performance degrade issue compared with a direct port?
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The problem with HDMI splitter is , the weaker signal transfer because it is splitting the data caused by the limitation of bandwidth .

This limitation will restrict the video output to 4k 30fps for each device connected to the splitter , primarily because the HDMI port (which the splitter is connecting to) is still fixed at 18Gbps / 2250mb and it is dividing that bandwidth into 3 ways or more.

Although , most console games are only running at 4k 30 fps these days . But anything more than that may cause HDMI handshake or other problems.

here




QUOTE(Jerrylum88 @ Nov 9 2018, 11:33 AM)
Sifu ,need help on these option, senq is having promo and selling these tv as below:

1) 65 inch Samsung NU7300 - RM 3,999
2) 65 inch Samsung NU7100 - RM 3,799
3) 65 inch Sony X70F - RM 3,599
4) 55 inch Sony X75F - RM 2,919, 65inch for RM 4,699 ( abit pricey for this  model, dunno whats the difference between x70f and x75f.

Mainly for movies, tvshows and youtube for parents use in a ( moderate brightness living room background)

4k Upscaling for SDR sources and ease of use are my primary concern
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The Sony x70f seems ideal for you .

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why do malaysian prefer other models of the same class (pan fx600k, sony x700f, lg uk6500, sharp ua6500x) over nu7100 so much? what is the problem with the samsung nu7100? Base on rtings.com nu7100 is quite good and for the price its like no brainer. I personally havent had the chance to compare it head to head with the others. For everyday usage dim and bright environement 50-50 which of them has most bang for the ringgit? I beg for the explanation, please, this dilemma is hurting my brain!
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Nothing's wrong with NU7100 . Except the MU6100 from last year is still a much better TV , features wise.

Why do most people still end up buying the TV models listed above ? Because many of them are still buying a TV for living room which is usually bright , where all the benefits of getting a VA TV have essentially disappeared. Most of the TV you mentioned are of IPS except the Sharp model .


The fine folks at rtings are doing what they can to provide the public with numbers and they are buying their own TVs , unlike some reviewers where they get cherry picked unit from the brand itself . But numbers alone don't show the whole picture , they often ignore ( or late to report ) the contemporary issues of the TV.

Use their numbers as references , but not as an absolute rule which TV to buy.


QUOTE(haziqmckau @ Nov 9 2018, 12:38 AM)
Bro Convael, what do you think of LGUK7500 vs Sony X8500f vs Samsung NU8000
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As a SDR TV , all 3 of them are considered adequate .
By now everyone is probably more than sick of reading pro and cons of IPS / VA based TV , so I will leave those behind.


But HDR is the hot topic in town now , we certainly can't ignore that if you have the budget to spare . Especially when all 3 of them claimed to be HDR TVs.


The Samsung NU8000 is an unusually bright TV for a mid-range model . It can overcome glares caused by the environmental light source and still display the pictures in its most natural form. Although it utilizes an edge-lit based local dimming , it can still provide a more convincing HDR effect than the other 2 TV largely thanks to its high peak brightness , which translate into higher dynamic range and is what HDR is all about. Great price , good performance ( for this price range ) , great input latency , large amount of features , it is simply the best out of the 3 .


The LG UK7500 too have an edge-lit local dimming . However the dimming performance is so terrible that it causes more damage to the picture rather than enhancing it . The LG magic remote and smart TV OS are very responsive and more intuitive to use compare to the other two .


The X8500F might be a good SDR TV but it simply can't do HDR . It has steady brightness output but due to the absence of of proper dimming system , it can't produce an accurate impression of HDR . It also has a poor black uniformity just like all the other IPS TVs . Other than that , it remains a good pick if you are mainly into watching low quality streaming shows and fast action movies due to the excellent picture processing from Sony TVs.


QUOTE(demogorgon @ Nov 9 2018, 10:43 AM)
Awesome thread, i really learn a lot about TVs and its techs. I'm planning on getting either Sony 55X70F or Samsung 55NU7100. To my understanding, non of these 2 are android tvs? Which means i cannot install Astro Go or Spotify on it because both OS are Linux base. Is this correct?

Most frequent app i'm using with my android box now is Netflix, Youtube, AstroGO and Spotify. Its connected to a non-smart tv so i plan to move these set into bedroom and get a larger 55" for living room.

If these 2 models dont support AstroGO and Spotify, is there any other method to get them working instead buying another android box?
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Or you can spend a little more for an Android TV such as the X7500F.

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Nothing's wrong with NU7100 . Except the MU6100 from last year is still a much better TV , features wise.

Why do most people still end up buying the TV models listed above ? Because many of them are still buying a TV for living room which is usually bright , where all the benefits of getting a VA TV have essentially disappeared. Most of the TV you mentioned are of IPS except the Sharp model .
The fine folks at rtings are doing what they can to provide the public with numbers and they are buying their own TVs , unlike some reviewers where they get cherry picked unit from the brand itself . But numbers alone don't show the whole picture , they often ignore ( or late to report ) the contemporary issues of the TV.

Use their numbers as references , but not as an absolute rule which TV to buy.
As a SDR TV , all 3 of them are considered adequate .
By now everyone is probably more than sick of reading pro and cons of IPS / VA based TV , so I will leave those behind.
But HDR is the hot topic in town now , we certainly can't ignore that if you have the budget to spare . Especially when all 3 of them claimed to be HDR TVs.
The Samsung NU8000 is an unusually bright TV for a mid-range model . It can overcome glares caused by the environmental light source and still display the pictures in its most natural form. Although it utilizes an edge-lit based local dimming , it can still provide a more convincing HDR effect than the other 2 TV largely thanks to its high peak brightness , which translate into higher dynamic range and is what HDR is all about.  Great price , good performance ( for this price range ) , great input latency ,  large amount of features , it is simply the best out of the 3 .
The LG UK7500 too have an edge-lit local dimming . However the dimming performance is so terrible that it causes more damage to the picture rather than enhancing it . The LG magic remote and smart TV OS are very responsive and more intuitive to use compare to the other two .
The X8500F might be a good SDR TV but it simply can't do HDR . It has steady brightness output but due to the absence of of proper dimming system , it can't produce an accurate impression of HDR . It also has a poor black uniformity just all all the other IPS TVs . Other than that , it remains a good pick if you are mainly into watching low quality streaming shows and fast action movies due to the excellent picture processing from Sony TVs.
Or you can spend a little more for an Android TV such as the X7500F.
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Need to purchase a 65" TV for a brightly-lit, fairly-large living hall. Wide viewing angle is an important feature to have. Mainly for watching TV, movies, Netflix.
I'm torn between:

Sony 65X7500F = RM3,990
or
Sony 65X8500F = RM6,290

The price gap between the two is huge. Is the RM2K extra worth it for my kind of usage and TV location? And are the prices quoted for each model reasonable?

Terima kasih sifus!

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Hi want to ask is it more worth to buy samsung nu7100 or Sony x7000f as the price for this 2 is about the same right now. Thank you smile.gif
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QUOTE(semutss @ Nov 10 2018, 03:09 PM)
Lowyat noob poster, and 4k TV noob potential purchaser here  tongue.gif

Need to purchase a 65" TV for a brightly-lit, fairly-large living hall. Wide viewing angle is an important feature to have. Mainly for watching TV, movies, Netflix.
I'm torn
Sony 65X7500F = RM3,990
or
Sony 65X8500F = RM6,290

The price gap between the two is huge. Is the RM2K extra worth it for my kind of usage and TV location? And are the prices quoted for each model reasonable?

Terima kasih sifus!
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Sony 65X7500F = RM3,990
Where u get the price?

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I just bought a sony 55" X70F from Desa Home for RM22xx. Pretty sweet price and cheaper than most online seller.

One thing, the salesman insisted that sony 55x70f uses VA panel but i thought is using IPS. He even explain the detailed tech behind VA and IPS. So is it VA or IPS?
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QUOTE(demogorgon @ Nov 10 2018, 08:03 PM)
I just bought a sony 55" X70F from Desa Home for RM22xx. Pretty sweet price and cheaper than most online seller.

One thing, the salesman insisted that sony 55x70f uses VA panel but i thought is using IPS. He even explain the detailed tech behind VA and IPS. So is it VA or IPS?
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i went senQ just now.
you swipe the screen with finger, can see line & look at side of tv, the colour fade.
most likely x70f is VA panel but i still not 100% sure.

how much exactly is your 55" rm22xx?
how about 65" price?

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Need suggestion about this Sony x70f & sharp 6800x, which model is better?

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QUOTE(szecheng @ Nov 10 2018, 06:20 PM)
Sony 65X7500F = RM3,990
Where u get the price?
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Just went to a home fair in ipoh, after a few demonstration , the X750F sounds gooding with the android tv function, can install Kodi and acdrama. Now I’m stuck with 2 option, 65inch X750F or 60 inch 6800x.

As what I have been told, the Sony remote app can insert text in any languages via the app and send it to tv(not sure is true or not), micracast and Chromecast build in looks very fancy and convenient.

What are the difference between this 2 and does it justified the extra rm1000 for Sony since both android tv?
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I want to know where too.
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From Shopee. Seller is Desa Home. Comes with 2+3 years warranty, wall bracket and HDMI cables. Free shipping too. And discount vouchers to use on the spot (+ cashback from Shopback when you buy via Shopee app 🤩). Best deal I've seen so far for the X7500F.

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QUOTE(szecheng @ Nov 10 2018, 08:13 PM)
i went senQ just now.
you swipe the screen with finger, can see line & look at side of tv, the colour fade.
most likely x70f is VA panel but i still not 100% sure.

how much exactly is your 55" rm22xx?
how about 65" price?
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Many forumers here said its IPS and i also seen spec online saying its IPS panel. Havent put up my tv yet but i'll physically check later

I just look back at receipt its RM2280. 65" i didnt look sorry
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QUOTE(semutss @ Nov 11 2018, 07:53 AM)
From Shopee. Seller is Desa Home. Comes with 2+3 years warranty, wall bracket and HDMI cables. Free shipping too. And discount vouchers to use on the spot (+ cashback from Shopback when you buy via Shopee app 🤩). Best deal I've seen so far for the X7500F.
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Are you sure is x7500f?
I believe is x7000f as most are selling at this price range.
x7500f are selling around rm4500-rm5200.
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QUOTE(takwah @ Nov 11 2018, 02:01 PM)
Are you sure is x7500f?
I believe is x7000f as most are selling at this price range.
x7500f are selling around rm4500-rm5200.
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Juz went to check at shopee and you are rite.

Great great deal!

I just bought the kd65x7000f at rm3599 with 2+3 years warranty in lazada this morning...
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QUOTE(takwah @ Nov 11 2018, 02:11 PM)
Juz went to check at shopee and you are rite.

Great great deal!

I just bought the kd65x7000f at rm3599 with 2+3 years warranty in lazada this morning...
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Yes, I think it's quite a deal too. After the discount vouchers and shopback credit, I paid RM3,935 for the X7500F.
You know, if they haven't shipped your order out, you can always cancel your lazada order (and get refunded within 2 weeks). And get the one on Shopee. Last I checked, there's still 9 units available. brows.gif

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Damm. Chat with Senheng x7000f they don't ship to East Malaysia.

Saw both x7500f and x7000f view from side.
x7000f colour fades.

I think gonna settle for desa home 55 x7500f @ 2799 shipping tm10.90

You guys saw anywhere cheaper?


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QUOTE(takwah @ Nov 11 2018, 02:11 PM)
Juz went to check at shopee and you are rite.

Great great deal!

I just bought the kd65x7000f at rm3599 with 2+3 years warranty in lazada this morning...
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I just set my tv up and yeah its X70F alright. In my opinion Desa Home got one of the best price in town for this model.

Anyways still working on the settings of this tv to get the best quality. Anyone knows a link for this tv best setting?
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QUOTE(szecheng @ Nov 11 2018, 04:04 PM)
Damm. Chat with Senheng x7000f they don't ship to East Malaysia.

Saw both x7500f and x7000f view from side.
x7000f colour fades.

I think gonna settle for desa home 55 x7500f @ 2799 shipping tm10.90

You guys saw anywhere cheaper?
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I saw Senq at Vivacity Megamall Kuching sell Sony KD55X7500F at RM2799.

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QUOTE(Semaba @ Nov 11 2018, 06:46 PM)
I saw Senq at Vivamall sell Sony KD55X7500F at RM2799.
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I just click 55x7500f desa home at Lazada rm2799, need the TV to Miri. Now out of stock.



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QUOTE(semutss @ Nov 11 2018, 02:59 PM)
Yes, I think it's quite a deal too. After the discount vouchers and shopback credit, I paid RM3,935 for the X7500F.
You know, if they haven't shipped your order out, you can always cancel your lazada order (and get refunded within 2 weeks). And get the one on Shopee. Last I checked, there's still 9 units available.  brows.gif
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Can you share the shopee link for your purchase?
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QUOTE(szecheng @ Nov 11 2018, 04:04 PM)
Damm. Chat with Senheng x7000f they don't ship to East Malaysia.

Saw both x7500f and x7000f view from side.
x7000f colour fades.

I think gonna settle for desa home 55 x7500f @ 2799 shipping tm10.90

You guys saw anywhere cheaper?
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Maybe X70F is VA instead of IPS but this link here says its IPS

And yeah imo Desa Home have one of the best price in town
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Hi want to ask is it more worth to buy samsung nu7100 or Sony x7000f as the price for this 2 is about the same right now. Thank you smile.gif
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Haha, anyone can share their experience on this, thank you.
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QUOTE(Semaba @ Nov 11 2018, 06:46 PM)
I saw Senq at Vivacity Megamall Kuching sell Sony KD55X7500F at RM2799.
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Just called miri senq same price & got stock
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Can you share the shopee link for your purchase?
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https://shopee.com.my/Sony-KD65X7500F-65-4K...4585.1431070648
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QUOTE(semutss @ Nov 11 2018, 07:11 PM)
Cheap but too bad don't send East Malaysia
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can't resist myself to order Sony KDX7500F 49" @ 2199 from Desa Home. 2+3 years sony warranty.
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Just triggered Sony 65 x7000f rm3599 SenQ after rm200 discount from rm3799. Tomorrow price go up to rm4449
+ rm25 processing fee 0%12 months installment.

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x70f and x75f diff is only smart tv with android?
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QUOTE(szecheng @ Nov 11 2018, 10:56 PM)
Just triggered Sony 65 x7000f rm3599 SenQ after rm200 discount from rm3799. Tomorrow price go up to rm4449
+ rm25 processing fee 0%12 months installment.
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I thought you mentioned the colour of the X7000F looks faded(pale) in comparison to the X7500F? Or you have chosen the X7000F because you cannot get the X7500F.
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I thought you mentioned the colour of the X7000F looks faded(pale) in comparison to the X7500F? Or you have chosen the X7000F because you cannot get the X7500F.
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Colour fade when you see from the side. Suspect VA panel.
In front colour almost same, x75f looks brighter in dark scene.

East Malaysia not much choice and price.
My list of choice.
55 nu7400 (Samsung) rm3299
55 x75f rm2799

65inch at SenQ
x70f rm3599 (bought this)
x75f rm4699 with this price. I better go for x85f/nu8000(Samsung)

Parents mainly use for tv box aDrama & astro go
Always watch TV with lights on.
In the end I go for bigger screen entry level x70f

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QUOTE(mytaffeta @ Nov 12 2018, 12:48 AM)
x70f and x75f diff is only smart tv with android?
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x70f 3 hdmi vs 4 x75f
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QUOTE(semutss @ Nov 11 2018, 02:59 PM)
Yes, I think it's quite a deal too. After the discount vouchers and shopback credit, I paid RM3,935 for the X7500F.
You know, if they haven't shipped your order out, you can always cancel your lazada order (and get refunded within 2 weeks). And get the one on Shopee. Last I checked, there's still 9 units available.  brows.gif
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Nevermind, I will settle with x7000f as viewing of tv is always at the front. Furthermore android tv is not required by me.


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QUOTE(takwah @ Nov 12 2018, 02:01 PM)
Nevermind, I will settle with x7000f as viewing of tv is always at the front. Furthermore android tv is not required by me.
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Rm4699 at senQ
If I can get x7500f at rm39xx, I will go for it. It comes with 4hdmi and legs is silver color.
I have Android tv box too.
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Rm4699 at senQ
If I can get x7500f at rm39xx, I will go for it. It comes with 4hdmi and legs is silver color.
I have Android tv box too.
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Desa Home already increase back their price in Shopee today. The 65†X7500F is now RM4,699. Those keen on buying may want to wait until the next online sale this 12.12. Hopefully the price will match the RM3,6xx or even lower.
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Sony Panel for reference.
You can compare at sony store

X7000f
55 VA direct led
65 VA direct led

X7500f
55 IPS direct led
65 VA direct led

X8500f
55 IPS edge led
65 IPS edge led

confirmed by sony klcc sales person, referring to pricelist spec

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just noticed Sharp had just released new TV models lineup for year 2019 last Monday....click the link below...apparently not pick-up by some of the newspapers...

http://www.utusan.com.my/bisnes/ekonomi/vi...u-2019-1.785774

below is the link for the product brochure...

https://www.my.sharp/sites/default/files/pr...ochure%2018.pdf

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QUOTE(Arvinaaaaa @ Jun 13 2018, 09:46 PM)
I would go for samsung, mainly because of the brand
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Yup. Branded for easy to spoil. My bro's samsung dies after 1.5yrs. Very light usage.

I'll go with LG anytime. My first LG lasted me 7yrs. Change because of upgrade. Now owns another LG - 3 yrs dy with no issue.
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QUOTE(lawrencesha @ Nov 14 2018, 09:03 AM)
Yup. Branded for easy to spoil. My bro's samsung dies after 1.5yrs. Very light usage.

I'll go with LG anytime. My first LG lasted me 7yrs. Change because of upgrade. Now owns another LG - 3 yrs dy with no issue.
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Lg is good too, samsung mainly because of its oled tech.
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Lg is good too, samsung mainly because of its oled tech.
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LG makes great OLED TVs too. Reviewers seems to love them. But can't afford haha...

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QUOTE(szecheng @ Nov 13 2018, 01:01 PM)
Sony Panel for reference.
You can compare at sony store

X7000f
55 VA direct led
65 VA direct led

X7500f
55 IPS direct led
65 VA direct led

X8500f
55 IPS edge led
65 IPS edge led

confirmed by sony klcc sales person, referring to pricelist spec
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x70f and x75f are IPS panel, direct lit
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QUOTE(Arvinaaaaa @ Nov 14 2018, 09:17 AM)
Lg is good too, samsung mainly because of its oled tech.
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LG, Sony, Panasonic and a few others make OLED TVs. Unfortunately none are below RM3k brand new biggrin.gif

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x70f and x75f are IPS panel, direct lit
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You can verify this by looking at colour shift from the side of tv of all size and model mentioned.
I have done that and confirm the sales guy statement is correct
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I heard LG is a tahan lasak brand.
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LG UK75. Keep saw ppl recommend to stay away from this due to RGBW panel.
Originally was considering between Sony X75F and Samsung NU7400.
But the sales person push this model to me. As in now having promotion and explained more better then Sony and Samsung which i am looking for
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RGB SONY vw RGBW LG. By right the RGBW LG will look better as the color separation is shared between RGBW.
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QUOTE(Convael @ Nov 9 2018, 03:35 PM)
As a SDR TV , all 3 of them are considered adequate .
By now everyone is probably more than sick of reading pro and cons of IPS / VA based TV , so I will leave those behind.
But HDR is the hot topic in town now , we certainly can't ignore that if you have the budget to spare . Especially when all 3 of them claimed to be HDR TVs.
The Samsung NU8000 is an unusually bright TV for a mid-range model . It can overcome glares caused by the environmental light source and still display the pictures in its most natural form. Although it utilizes an edge-lit based local dimming , it can still provide a more convincing HDR effect than the other 2 TV largely thanks to its high peak brightness , which translate into higher dynamic range and is what HDR is all about.  Great price , good performance ( for this price range ) , great input latency ,  large amount of features , it is simply the best out of the 3 .
The LG UK7500 too have an edge-lit local dimming . However the dimming performance is so terrible that it causes more damage to the picture rather than enhancing it . The LG magic remote and smart TV OS are very responsive and more intuitive to use compare to the other two .
The X8500F might be a good SDR TV but it simply can't do HDR . It has steady brightness output but due to the absence of of proper dimming system , it can't produce an accurate impression of HDR . It also has a poor black uniformity just like all the other IPS TVs . Other than that , it remains a good pick if you are mainly into watching low quality streaming shows and fast action movies due to the excellent picture processing from Sony TVs.
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@Convael, would you recommend LG UK7500 if compare with Sony X7500F ?
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Assuming that you don't need the Android TV OS , the UK7500 does offers a few more features and upgrades over the Sony basic XF75.


For starters , the UK7500 is better than last year's UJ7500 since LG has also stopped using RGBW in their mid-range TV , so it is a full fledged RGB panel now .

The UK7500 is considered as LG 's mid range TV and has more HDR related features such as Local Dimming & Nano Cell ( which is LG 's term of supporting a Wider Color Gamut ) .



To sum it up , if you don't watch HDR content at all just buy whichever that is cheaper .

If you plan to watch some HDR related content from Youtube , Netflix , Amazon Prime & Vudu , the UK7500 will server you better.
If you are a big sports fan and buying the TV mostly to watch sport stuff , the Sony TVs are usually better because of their excellent motion processing .
For everything else , the UK7500 is more appropriate for the task.

QUOTE(empire @ Nov 19 2018, 04:32 PM)
RGB SONY vw RGBW LG. By right the RGBW LG will look better as the color separation is shared between RGBW.
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Despite of what LG says , RGBW 's goal is to save production budgets .

LG is fully aware that the RGBW panel has harmed their brands and reputation more than goods , you would expect them to after getting into a big fight with Samsung. So this year they have stopped using RGBW in their mid range TVs.
Only the UK6100 and UK6300 are using RGBW panel this year , everything else are full RGB now .


For laughing purposes :





And of course , don't take any of them too seriously . As usual , there are a lot of exaggerated bullcrap in both of them.



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why compare a 4k with an old 3k Tv? It should be 4k vs another 4k Tv baru adil!
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Sony 49" 4k TV KD49X7000F ok to buy?
Saw it price less than 2k on shopee.

Just want to upgrade my current Toshiba LED TV to 4K TV as it started have black line on left & right side.

Not really rely on Android TV based, just need real 4k function, because I have own Android TV box for routine streaming.
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between sony kd65x7500f and sharp lc60ua6800x , which 1 is better ?

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2 dead pixels for my 2 months Sony 65 x8500f. Unfortunately, Sony doesn't consider as defect since their tolerance is 5. Please check on the spot when item delivered to you to avoid similar case like me.
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Forget Sony, LG, Sharp and Samsung. I saw a side to side comparison today with all these brands against Panasonic. All of them lost to Panasonic in terms of Clarity, Details and fast motion scenes.

I was very keen on buying Sony at first.... until the salesman did a short but detailed demo using BLACK PANTHER Movie using all the TV brands. Panasonic colours looked more Natural cos it uses 6 Panel Colours...unlike SOny that uses 3 only (RGB) whilst LG uses 4 panels RGBW.

When it comes to fast scenes, The Panasonic was the smoothest and with the most clarity. Sony was the most disappointing in this area....with blurry images.

I liked it so much, I bought The PANASONIC VIETA FX600.
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QUOTE(Convael @ Nov 19 2018, 08:37 PM)
Assuming that you don't need the Android TV OS ,  the UK7500 does offers a few more features and upgrades over the Sony basic XF75.
For starters , the UK7500 is better than last year's UJ7500 since LG has also stopped using RGBW in their mid-range TV ,  so it is a full fledged RGB panel now .

The UK7500 is considered as LG 's mid range TV and has more HDR related features such as Local Dimming & Nano Cell ( which is LG 's term of supporting a Wider Color Gamut ) .
To sum it up  , if you don't watch HDR content at all just buy whichever that is cheaper .

If you plan to watch some HDR related content from Youtube , Netflix , Amazon Prime & Vudu , the UK7500 will server you better.
If you are a big sports fan and buying the TV mostly to watch sport stuff , the Sony TVs are usually better because of their excellent motion processing .
For everything else , the UK7500 is more appropriate for the task.
Despite of what LG says , RGBW 's goal is to save production budgets .

LG is fully aware that the RGBW panel has harmed their brands and reputation more than goods , you would expect them to after getting into a big fight with Samsung.  So this year they have stopped using RGBW in their mid range TVs.
Only the UK6100 and UK6300 are using RGBW panel this year , everything else are full RGB now .
For laughing purposes :





And of course , don't take any of them too seriously . As usual , there are a lot of exaggerated bullcrap in both of them.
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Thanks for the explanation and advise. Seem like LG really a good offer if i dont need the android tv OS and watching sport.

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do yourself a favour and compare all TV's side by side in the shop. I was seriously considering Sony and LG prior to buying Panasonic. I dont wanna buy the TV on-line cos I wanna make sure the difference is justified in buying Panasonic
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Forget Sony, LG, Sharp and Samsung. I saw a side to side comparison today with all these brands against Panasonic. All of them lost to Panasonic in terms of Clarity, Details and fast motion scenes.

I was very keen on buying Sony at first.... until the salesman did a short but detailed demo using BLACK PANTHER Movie using all the TV brands. Panasonic colours looked more Natural cos it uses 6 Panel Colours...unlike SOny that uses 3 only (RGB)  whilst LG uses 4 panels RGBW.

When it comes to fast scenes, The Panasonic was the smoothest and with the most clarity. Sony was the most disappointing in this area....with blurry images.

I liked it so much, I bought The PANASONIC VIETA FX600.
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There is a lot of misconception there .

All of them are RGB TV , with the exception of LG 's UK6100 & UK6300 .


The Panasonic TV doesn't has 6 different color subpixels , and it certainly does not reproduce colors using 6 different subpixels.
The " Hexa Chroma Drive " is actually what Panasonic calls their CMS ( Color Management System ) , which allows TV users to finetune the colors reproduction to more accurate extends .

If you don't calibrate your TV , it is nothing more than a marketing term for you , because you will be using their out of box settings.


Like I said before , a side by side comparison in the display shop is potentially pointless , because you need to make sure every TV in comparison are calibrated to the same settings .
It is possible the specific unit you are comparing are in its more accurate display mode , compare to the rest .

There is also the factor of Panel Variance , because these LCD TV are the general product of mass production. Unless they are sending you the exact same TV they showed you in the shop , what you saw from the shop may not be what you will be watching in your home . Even among the same model , one may be slightly brighter than another , slightly better screen uniformity , slightly more accurate colors etc etc ... you get my point.


I don't think Panasonic did anything special for their VIERA series . They do finetune their OLED TVs before shipping out , because they are selling those exquisite premium babies at a much higher price .
It is unlikely they are going to calibrate their entry level 4K TVs , at least not to the same degree as they do with their OLEDS which has garnered many praises for being uber color-accurate.

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specs dont impress me...but picture quality does. If a TV that uses only RGB can out-perform a TV that has RGBWAY .... I will buy the RGB TV. At the end it is all about buying the TV that you like....not buy a TV that someone said you should like.
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Sony going to have black friday sales for UHD TV.
warranty from 2 years extended to 5 years.
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Sony going to have black friday sales for UHD TV.
warranty from 2 years extended to 5 years.
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QUOTE(Convael @ Nov 21 2018, 07:39 PM)
There is a lot of misconception there .

All of them are RGB TV ,  with the exception of LG 's  UK6100 & UK6300 .
The Panasonic TV doesn't has 6 different color subpixels , and it certainly does not reproduce colors using 6 different subpixels.
The  " Hexa Chroma Drive " is actually what Panasonic calls their CMS ( Color Management System ) , which allows TV users to finetune the colors reproduction to more accurate extends . 

If you don't calibrate your TV , it is nothing more than a marketing term for you , because you will be using their out of box settings.
Like I said before , a side by side comparison in the display shop is potentially pointless , because you need to make sure every TV in comparison are calibrated to the same settings .
It is possible the specific unit you are comparing are in its more accurate display mode , compare to the rest .

There is also the factor of Panel Variance , because these LCD TV are the general product of mass production.  Unless they are sending you the exact same TV they showed you in the shop ,  what you saw from the shop may not be what you will be watching in your home .  Even among the same model , one may be slightly brighter than another , slightly better screen uniformity , slightly more accurate colors etc etc ... you get my point.
I don't think Panasonic did anything special for their VIERA series . They do finetune their OLED TVs before shipping out , because they are selling those exquisite premium babies at a much higher price .
It is unlikely they are going to calibrate their entry level 4K TVs , at least not to the same degree as they do with their OLEDS which has garnered many praises for being uber color-accurate.
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A-freaking-men. Shops just want to show eye popping blinding colors to you. That's why the TVs have shop and home mode no? Most people are usually victims to fancy marketing terms. laugh.gif

I'm pretty new to TV as i just use PC mostly before. So i got the LG 49" UK6300 which fits my small budget. Frankly to my eyes, i don't really notice the color being washed out or loss of sharpness. Maybe because i'm actually using it as a TV instead of sitting 1cm from it. I just followed calibration from rtings.com and it looks good to me. No more skin looking like they are being burned by the sun. Decent HDR performance too especially in colorful scenes. Dark post apocalyptic drama on Netflix with HDR don't really pop as much as the Chef show. I can't really compare between my IPS RGBW & VA RGB Samsung 43" NU7100 that my bro bought (which costs more than my 49") for my dad back at my kampung unless i put it side by side. Too bad that 5 months later, i noticed there's light bleeding from the top edge of the Samsung in dark scenes. Bad luck i guess.
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can sifu suggest tv under 4k for ps4 gaming? 55inch is suffice. thanks!
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How is the delivery from DesaHomes from Shopee? Do they use their own delivery trucks or is it GDEx/Skynet/Poslaju?
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How is the delivery from DesaHomes from Shopee? Do they use their own delivery trucks or is it GDEx/Skynet/Poslaju?
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bought mine from DesaHome, but from Lazada. they use GDEX.
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bought mine from DesaHome, but from Lazada. they use GDEX.
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Did you get any free gift like hdmi cable and wall bracket?
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Did you get any free gift like hdmi cable and wall bracket?
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but only have wall bracket in the tv box, already chat with them and they told me the should resend the hdmi cable.
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is this good buy?

https://www.lazada.com.my/products/sony-kd5...Xh06dn&search=1

comparing Sony KD55X7500F vs Sharp LC50UA6800X...

any advise?
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For all sifu,

Im looking below TVs and having difficulty to make decision, can some one help me?
I have a tv box, which can watch drama, sport, movie and youtube. Besides, my tv will install at condo style living room, so not watch from wide angle.

Sony:
49X7000F (heard people said, youtube is only for 2 years, after 2 years cant use anymore?)
49X7500F (I have tv box, so dont need android apps, but is this model better?)
aside of apps, i dont know what is the different between this 2.

LG:
49UK6300PTE - cheaper and below 2k, but i think this is IPS (Which i dont need)
50UK6500 - VA and just added 1 more inch compare to above, but price is far different

Samsung
49 NU7100 - Basically, saw post from online, they said quality not that good, having issue after few years.
50NU7400 - not really know about this.

For VA and IPS, i think will go for VA, what you guys thought? Please help.

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