Dead Thread revived

Hey Haruji Sora, where are you. You haven't given the feedback for the FW for the KS7000. We need you to test it out and give your feedback about the Game mode. The fw looks kind of suspicious with two versions listed together, so please be our guinea pig



http://www.samsung.com/my/support/model/UA55KS7000KXXM

LOL.

Already installed it since Day 1 of release.

It's a legit release.

Game Mode HDR Profile switching is working.

HDR Performance has been improved on my set (KS7000), brighter highlights seems can hit higher nits compared to previously.

Overall it's a good update.

HDR10Plus (dynamic open source HDR) probably still missing, but the problem with the format is even Amazon Prime can't really tell which video supports HDR10+, so this technology seems to be a mixed bag for now until they sort out that mess.

I heard HLG is still broken with some box over in the west (HLG is Hybrid something something), it is supposed to be HDR standard for broadcaast TV.

So it's all good now, at least for gaming

This post has been edited by Ngto: May 25 2018, 10:07 AM

Anyways.

Outside than 2016 TV set firmware update.

2018 Samsung TV range is finally out.

Seems like they might have dropped the 6xxx model numbering in Asia Pacific / UK and finally standardize the TV Model across the globe.

KU6100 = KU7000 (2016 TV Asia VS US)
MU6100 = MU7000 (2017 TV Asia VS US)
NU7100 = NU7100 (2018 TV Asia VS US)

I seen NU7100 selling for roughly the same price with MU6300 now.

QLED offering has also been refreshed for 2018 range, even though they retain the model (Q7F is refreshed to Q7FN)

One Connect Box has moved to be exclusive for the QLED line now.

And the mid entry/high end TV stand has been revamped for Samsung TV 2018 offering.

No MicroLED TV out yet, possibility need to wait for 2019.

Seen Samsung UA58NU7103 seeling for less than RM3,100. Worth it for a non-premium one?
So for 2018, series will start from 7? No wonder couldnt find 6100 series for 2018 model

Technically on paper it is still the same TV Panel spec wise with their 2017 counterparts NU7xxx = MU6xxx.

I probably say just grab w/e that's the cheapest now.

It is a decent Entry Level TV.

Marketing trick, increase the series number to make it seem as if higher model compared to previous year.

Best KLCC | Samsung MU7000K

That's cheap. I got my new unit at RM5,688 in East Malaysia about 3 weeks ago.

Hard to find new unit, now suddenly got so many new units?

This post has been edited by low98944: May 28 2018, 04:15 PM

Yes, very good price. still consider want get this unit or X8500E. X8500E RM6K.

The same dilemma I have faced last time.

I still choose UA65MU7000 because:

1) at that time UA65MU7000 only RM5,688, 65 inch 8500E cheapest I can find is RM7,100.
2) the original setting before collaboration for MU7000 already very good. Not everyone will hire professional collaborator.
3) Although HDR in MU7000 lousy but 8500E is also so so only. After all, both is Edge-lit, what to expect.
4) In Rtings review, MU7000 is slightly better in Movie and game, which I primary use it for movie only. In near future, maybe gaming too.
5) Input lag for MU7000 is almost only half if compared to 8500E.

These factors forced me to choose MU7000 over 8500E.

Cause 2018 (NU series) is out so clearance stock everywhere now

Thanks for sharing. Are you using stand or mount? My table 80cm length, do u think fit for my table?

i jz saw samsung uhd tv selling for only RM3K.. is it me or jz UHD is no longer the market choice anymore??

First few days I use stand, now wall mount.

There are 2 stand option, cam adjust between 90cm or 120cm, but still exceed 80cm. I think you have to wall mount.

Guys,

Is MU 6 series do not have HDR+?

Btw i wan to buy a 55".
Saw online 55MU6300 RM2800, 55NU7100 RM3050, 55NU7300 RM3500

Is now a good time to buy 55MU6300?
I read from rting.com, saying NU is a downgrade from MU, just that they updated some features like HDR+

If you're talking about the Samsung/Amazon/etc Open Source Dynamic HDR , HDR10+ then MU set has already been updated to support it around early 2018.

Only problem is, there is no platform that is delivering it correctly (as in telling you the video is Standard HDR or HDR10Plus). Even Amazon has some titles but there is no proper labeling on it.

Those is just edge-lit LCD TV, don't expect have any good HDR effect.

If want to have good HDR effect, you should look for QLED or OLED.

any advice in NU7 series (2018) as their previous NU6xxx series is so so only ...

Only Q8 (2018) model and above has Full Array Local Dimming. Even the QLED Q7C is still Edge Lit.

NU7xxx is roughly identical in terms of spec with MU6xxx. I dont think there is a NU6xxx anymore since this year I think Samsung is syncing their Model numbering across the globe.

Those 2 tvs are at the same level. Should buy the one that is cheaper. MU7000 is slightly better than X8500E in HDR but the colour gamut is less than the Sony. Also, Samsung's Tizen is much more responsive and intuitive compared to Android TV. You made a good choice

ok,cos i saw MU6XXX selling quite cheap @ SenQ,maybe old stock clearence but dint see any NU7 series display ...

i saw from another thread there're MU7XXX series but i cant find it in Samsung website ?

http://www.samsung.com/my/tvs/uhdtv-mu7000/UA65MU7000KXXM/

Not sure if my eyes are playing tricks haha. Looks brighter after updating

Maybe because of the auto-switch, where last time u need to manually adjust back-light to 20

EDIT
Seems like they used default values for the HDR Game Mode. No wonder picture looks extremely sharp and colour tone is brighter

This post has been edited by tohff7: Jun 1 2018, 10:32 AM

Wow,the RRP is > 10k for 65"

Samsung went full retard on prices for 2017 models.

Just picked up a unit of 55MU6100 at Lazada. RM2499.

The 2018 Qled bundled with the sound bar promo price are not bad..

Bro, by any chance share the link for the Samsung.
I can't seem to find it.

https://www.samsung.com/my/offer/tv-launch-...BFB61755442D088

Thanks
😬

Samsung so generous this time around? Maybe learning from their 2017 mistake.

Or now because MYR stronger and GST 0% liao, they can price it lower...

I calibrated a 55Q7F for a friend in the last 2 days and I've been fairly impressed with the TV.

Pretty good black levels for an LCD, hitting over 5500:1. SDR and HDR peak brightness and average are consistently over 2000cd/m2 inside a 10% window, averaging around the 800 nits mark if sustained overtime. It does have some shortfalls with its useless local dimming algorithm though due to the edge lit LEDs with no guiding plates.

I like the fact that after calibration the TV covers 99% of the DCI-P3 color space - that's pretty much as good as it gets, which is even better than OLEDs. The REC2020 scale also hits a very respectable 75% and 83%, which is best in class for an LCD at this price range. Kudos to Samsung for focusing on color accuracy and volume!

As an everyday TV that people would use for TV, movies and gaming - well, gaming; this is arguably the BEST TV for gaming in the RM8k bracket. Input lag measured 15ms at 4k60hz @ 4:4:4 and enabling HDR only brings that up to 19ms. This is good enough even for offline local fighting games competition. There was a new update with Freesync support and I only tested it with a HTPC (no Xbox One X), suffice to say it works as it should and I'm still baffled by why Freesync isn't mandatory on all displays yet. I hope when the next-gen consoles arrives in a few years, Freesync will be a mainstream feature on all TVs.

Personally, I think this is the best 2018 RM8k-ish TV in the Malaysia market currently (since Sony went full retarded last minute in not bringing in their 55" X90f). Unless you can get an LG C8 OLED for under RM9k, there really is no better alternative than the Q7F at the moment.

Now on another note, Samsung... just why did you even bother bringing in the Q8C when no one even buys curved TVs? The Q8FN could have been the RM10k sweet spot for everyone.... you missed the ball Samsung.

This post has been edited by SSJBen: Jun 6 2018, 04:14 PM

The Q8FN is carrying their almighty new FALD , which is not doubt very impressive from what I have seen . There's no way they are willing to sell that TV under 10k here lol , it is Samsung afterall.


The sad thing about Q7FN the local dimming still really sucks . The price is really good from the promotion few days ago since they give you a free monitor / soundbar of choice , you can easily sell off the monitor for 2k ++ , so the cost of TV should be left at around RM6k


offtopic : BTW I have seen an offer from TBC for 55'C8 under 10k , it varies from shop to shop , if you manage to sweet talk the shop keeper into discounts , he might give a good offer


Just to be sure , we are talking about the Q7FN not the Q7 from last year right ? Cause the Samsung guy was telling me Q7FN will only be delivered by the end of month

This post has been edited by Convael: Jun 7 2018, 11:29 AM

Not Home TV, but Samsung's Onyx 'Cinema TV' :-

Anyone going to watch Midvalley Hall 11, Jurassic World 2 ? Please share the experience?

https://www.thestar.com.my/tech/tech-news/2...-of-the-future/

This post has been edited by Ngto: Jun 8 2018, 03:52 AM

Been waiting for this since it 1st launched in Korea. Will go tonight straight away.

Hello guys, just noted from Desa Home, Samsung 65' MU9000 RM5,499 (2 years warranty) and Sony 65' X8500E RM5,999 (2+3 years warranty), should I get the MU9000 or X8500E? :-)

Went to see Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom on the brand spanking new Samsung Onyx Cinema Led. Not discussing the movie plot here but rather the experience with the Samsung Onyx cinema itself.

Video:
-screen size:
Not that big. If you want to watch in this cinema, i suggests not to seat in the midlle, go 2-3 level form the screen. Btw the seat are very comfy. Not the typical cinema seat.
-Sharpness :
The texts/subtitles are ultra sharp. the movie also ultra sharp.
-HDR:
I read it some where that this scren are HDR but I can't see much of it.is either the screen itself or the movie itself. I belived it is both are not much HDR.
-Peak Brightness level:
Not that bright. It doesnt gave me the glaring effect I got from my Sony X930e tv
-contrast level:
OK la
-black level:
Superb as each pixel can be turn of completely
-pixel density:
Sorry I didn't have the opportunity to shot it, but I do go to the screen closely viewed it. Damm it ways very dens. I'd say buot 2x2mm with gabs by 1mm in between the pixels.

Audio:
The Harmon tune speakers are great but It lack the sound form above form the like of Dolby ATMOS

Overall
I would like to see a bigger screen and ATMOS support. Also higher peak brightnes

So it' a bit of a letdown I guess. The screen size only slightly above 10m, from the pic the width looks about 12 seats wide. Maybe they reduced the brightness due to pitch black condition , some people's eyes might be too sensitive if too bright.

This post has been edited by Ngto: Jun 9 2018, 08:18 AM

UA55MU8000 has just received price drop to 4.2k.. what do you guys think?

QA55Q7FAMKXXM on the other hand i believe is around 6k

any cheap qled clearance available lately?

This post has been edited by lkm51: Jun 11 2018, 08:32 AM

Really? Q7F around 6k? Please share where we can get this deal and it’s detail. Tqvm!

This post has been edited by Student111: Jun 11 2018, 05:59 PM

imho , Q7F was overpriced and still is .

The new generation of QLED ( Q7FN , Q8C & Q9FN ) are so much better.

Especially if you can find a FREE-Monitor/Soundbar deal , some supplier tend to order extra and extend the promotion period

This post has been edited by Convael: Jun 11 2018, 06:40 PM

https://shopee.com.my/SAMSUNG-55-QLED-4K-SM...81612.382223253

guys...

which one you will select?

65mu7000 or 55q7f

price difference RM 600??

This post has been edited by lkm51: Jun 12 2018, 04:44 PM

Are you looking at the one in 11street? Wonder if there is a non-curved screen version that is cheaper

This post has been edited by Imdarren: Jun 12 2018, 04:40 PM

yeah.. but after reading comments here not to recommending curved.. i drop that idea

Can consider the UA55NU8000 i guess. Since RRP is 5.5k ish with free soundbar worth 1.6k. Seems quite an ok deal

which one you will select?

65mu7000 or 55q7f

price difference RM 600??

You cannot just choose between the 2 as both has different screen size.

It depends on your usage and seating arrangement.

If you sit far, you probably need 65 inch.

If the seats are not so far away, then 55 inch would be good.

Anyways if you talking about pure performance and picture clarity (plus HDR performance and colors and etc) then defo Q7F is a no brainer

Alrighty! Thankssssss

Is there anyone using Samsung 58" NU7103? price around rm 3.1k. cannot find any reviews on this model online.
How is this model compared to models 65" NU7100 (rm 5k) or 65"Mu6100 (rm 4.1k)?

The Q7 is a better tv but personally I would go for the 65" MU7000 in this case. The size makes more of an impact than the colour gamut and extra HDR brightness of the Q7F.

Crap.. Now say sold out.. Last unit booked..

Arghh.. Any mu7000 equivalent??

Sony X8500E but its about 1k more than the MU7000. Try to check in other shops, most are clearing the MU7000 at around RM5k.

Desahome clearing for 5999 with 5 years warranty and 550 voucher..

That's a good deal. Sony store is also selling the X8500E for around the same price but without the voucher. But Sony's warranty is usually better and no charges for 2 years credit card instalment.

The NU7103 i saw in lazada going for 2999

NU7103 is a retailer version of the 7100 models , they are essentially the same thing.

This post has been edited by Convael: Jun 17 2018, 06:55 PM

what ia the meaning of 'retailer version' ?

It means they are the same thing , but shipped at different time or move from different warehouse , sold by different retailer ( likely in this case )

This post has been edited by Convael: Jun 19 2018, 09:23 PM

Found this at harvey norman.. Damn the price

Harvey Norman price is pricey. I went to best denki to compare for other model. They have much cheaper price. I just bought 55NU8000 at best denki, waiting to be delivered soon. They have much cheaper price than Harvey Norman.

This post has been edited by cat0409: Jun 25 2018, 11:27 AM

55" Q7F 4K Smart QLED TV

65" NU8000 Smart 4K Premium UHD TV

I am in dilemma now. Both TVs are almost same price. I am not sure which one to get. Can someone who has experience share with me? 55 QLED is good because of quality. 65 is bigger screen. My question is, the P-UHD pic quality really big different compare with QLED? Or slightly different? Shall I take P-UHD?

How much did you got it for? Best i checked online for 55NU8000 online is about 4.8k

size does matter for me,i will go for 65"

Yes about the same 48++.

Depending on the content you watch and how 'good' is your eye.

For the average Joe, bigger size seems to be better choice. It's more easy to notice the difference in size compare to PQ

I assume the Q7F you mean here , is the Q7F from 2017 , not the 2018 's Q7FN .


The QLED from 2017 has a very disappointing performance .
Behind the fancy marketing words like QLED / Quantum Dot panel, the only improvement you see from these QLED TVs is the improved color volume .

This will be noticeable especially when playing HDR content . Both TV supports for Wide Color Gamut , but the QLED are able to show deeper , more saturated colors under different brightness levels .



The 2018's NU8000 is a very dramatic improvement over last year's model. Compare to the Q7F, it is much brighter , slightly better input lag and motion handling , free SYNC for gamers .

When we talk about Picture Quality , it usually refer the Native Contrast of the TV. The higher native contrast the TV has , the more sense of depth you will get from the deeper black , which translates into higher Picture Quality. Q7F 's contrast ratio is just about the same as NU8000 , so the difference of PQ is marginal , at best .


To sum it up , Q7F is not an improvement from NU8000 , despite being a little more colorful , it is slightly worse in almost every aspect , particularly the brightness ratings which is a key to displaying eye popping HDR effects. The NU8000 is the better pick , larger screen size too .


When you decide to buy a high end TV , you need to consider the content you are watching - HDR or SDR.
The advanced specification such as wide color gamut and higher peak brightness only truly matter when you watch these content / play these games.


If you want a QLED TV , do consider the 2018's models . They are a much better TVs in general , with a dazzling peak brightness that illuminate the entire dark room with just 1 small dot from the screen.

This post has been edited by Convael: Jun 25 2018, 06:57 PM

Thanks for your detail explaination. I am comparing Q7F 2018 55 inch vs 65 inch NU8000. Both are years 2018.

This ?

Just to make sure , cause I know some TV merchant are still labeling Q7F as 2018 and trying to sell it as new at some ridiculous price . Look for an "N" after the F



The 2018 Q7F(N) is a fantastic HDR TV .

Look at its brightness ratings , this beautiful thing can spike up to 2000 cd/m2 of brightness , where no other LED TV can reach beside the Q9.

What this essentially means when you watch HDR shows , the sunset , the torch fires , the neon lights, the dawn star are able to display eye searing brightness to the level of creating sense of realism most TV can never reach. The QLED almost 100% PCI-3 color coverage is just an icing on the cake here, making HDR effect pop even more from the screen.

It is also a very versatile TV , also bright enough to overcome some of the strong glare from a bright room with full glossy screen finish.
And that is all on top of the new free sync features for gamers ( NU8000 also has this , but not the 2017's Q7F ).


The only downside ( sort of ) is it uses a lousy dimming algorithm , unable to boost its contrast rating past the typical Samsung VA standard. It is still good in this area , just not as awesome as its bigger brothers ( Q8 & Q9)


Between Q7FN and NU8000 , the Q7FN is quite a noticeable improvement . Whether if its worth going for the 55 inches screen , depends if you watch enough HDR content to justify the sacrifice. NU8000 is a pretty good TV to begin with.

This post has been edited by Convael: Jun 25 2018, 11:49 PM

Thanks for your detail sharing . Very helpful info. You are the expert on this area...

The only reason I plan want to go for NU8000 is because 65inch. I am worry the 55inch Q7F is not big enough for me. As you mention NU8000 not bad ... I will go for that.

Really appreciate your advise.

65 inch nu8000 for RM 4xxxx?

Anybody using 65 inch MU6100? How about picture quality and etc.

I think she/he is referring to the RM8500 55 ' Q7FN & RM8500 65 ' NU8000



There is a lot of discussion here , check it out

This post has been edited by Convael: Jun 26 2018, 01:52 PM

Yes. Correct.

guys, any nice HDR tv to suggest.

i want to use it with my ps4 pro.

budget around 2800

There are a lot of nice TV at this price range , sadly there are no nice HDR TVs within the same price range.


Only the TVs in the price range of RM 8000+ are capable of displaying HDR effects close to the amazing fidelity mastered by the creators.

The other TVs , despite being labeled " HDR compatible " , they can only read the HDR data but they don't have the specs to show it.
This is also the reason why we often read many posts of people complaining HDR is a gimmick , a niche , overhyped and unimpressive , because most people don't have the correct TVs to display them.



Back to the TV , since you post in the Samsung thread , I will list the Samsung TVs . Samsung TVs have pretty low input latency which is great for gaming.

NU7400 : Just like MU6100 but this TV can show improve colors when playing HDR games / movies .

NU7100 & MU 6100 : Best all-round entry level 4K TV , just pick whichever cheaper you can find

This post has been edited by Convael: Jun 29 2018, 11:53 AM

thanks for the clarification bro.

will look into the NU7400's series tv

Another one at harvey norman




Attached thumbnail(s)

A display unit for RM6k .

MU7000 is a decent TV , but you are better off spending a bit more getting a new 55/65 inches NU8000 which is better in every aspect.

This post has been edited by Convael: Jun 29 2018, 03:12 PM

Totally agree

pulled the trigger on this one

That's the 2017 model , with the 2018's picture
Exactly what I was talking about in the previous posts .


The QLEDs from 2017 are very underwhelming TVs despite of all the hypes and prices .


Top up $1000 more you can get the 2018 version.

Received my set today and it is indeed Q7FN.

Wow .. Very cheap. Where you buy it?

go shop but the vendor itself is from Ipoh

This post has been edited by Mclaren88: Jul 4 2018, 08:15 PM

I think they put wrong price. No longer on there.

Actually I plan to buy from go shop too. I need your advise.

1. How do you find out the seller from Ipoh? When I phone call the Go Shop, they said seller is Samsung and not a retail shop.
2. When they deliver, is the box sealed well? Is the TV in perfect condition? I want it fully sealed and never open by anyone else.
3. Do they help to install? Or just deliver only?

Thanks in advance.

This post has been edited by bennedict82: Jul 4 2018, 09:27 PM

shop detail is from my consignment slip. TV is brand new condition

I bought 65Nu7100 today Senheng

Rm 4516, free soundbar hwk350, come with rm450 voucher rebate.

is the NU7100 the current entry level for Samsung 65?
What other options do I have