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post Oct 17 2006, 04:52 PM, updated 19y ago

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for those who of you who still think tmnut don't throttle our BT speeds, this will put an end to all your doubts. I just spoke to a guy from TMnut CEO's office and he confirmed they are throttling all P2P traffic 24 hours everyday. He admitted to me that they are doing this because they are running out of bandwidth and also because of Lim Keng Yaek ordering them to improve their service due to a lot of people complaining to him about slow browsing speeds. He said they are aware of the situation and our speeds should return once TMnut add in more bandwidth by the end of the year. He says we have to bear with the slow speeds until TMnut acquires more bandwidth.

In response, I asked to pass some of my suggestions to their management. I suggested that TMnut don't throttle 24 hours a day because nobody is going to surf & chat 24 hours everyday and please have some consideration for P2P users like me who pay RM99 a month for the speed. I asked if TMnut can lift the throttle after midnight and give us our speed until 12 Noon. He said he understand because he also use P2P and it isn't fair to customers like me. Then I said why should I pay RM99 a month just to get slow dial-up speed? I might as well switch back to TMnet 1515 dial-up service if I wanted to surf & chat. I told him, if you want to be fair to all users then don't throttle 24 hours a day and lift the restrictions after midnight so guys like me can get what we are paying for. My last suggestion to him was to put up an official annoucement on TMnut's website so all of us can finally get the true story from TMnut and not waste our time speculating about throttling and waste our money calling their stupid CS all the time.

At the end he agreed to pass on all my comments and suggestions to TMnut's management and CEO. You guys are probably wondering why this Tmnut guy suddenly admit to me about P2P throttling? That's because I complained to CFM not once but twice about my slow speeds and on the second time they finally admitted they are indeed throttling all P2P traffic 24 hours everyday. I suggest all of you complain to CFM if you are not satisfied with the standard answer given to you by TMnut's CS staff.
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post Oct 17 2006, 05:10 PM

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Bloody TMnut tongue.gif why not we sign an online petition and send it across to them? all low yat members could make like a online complaint or somethig? I also dont believe i will pay rm88 for speeds like this just to use for chat and surf, might as well use something cheaper vmad.gif
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At the moment , my BT download speed suddenly drop from 50k to <10k, I was sure that TM throttle BT.

If TM can lie to customer about this BT throttled issue, I am sure TM will lie again about "the promise --speeds should return once TMnut add in more bandwidth by the end of the year".

I mean, TM might throttle BT FOREVER with the excuse "running out of bandwidth ... because of Lim Keng Yaek ordering them to improve their service" This will be a "nightmare" for all BT users.

We must get an official promise from TM regarding BT throttled issue.



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post Oct 17 2006, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(nwk @ Oct 17 2006, 04:52 PM)
He said they are aware of the situation and our speeds should return once TMnut add in more bandwidth by the end of the year.
When's exactly is the "end of the year"?


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post Oct 17 2006, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(btfan @ Oct 17 2006, 05:17 PM)
When's exactly is the "end of the year"?
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That could be anytime between November and December 2006. But I am not going to hold my breath because TMnut doesn't have a good record of keeping it's promises.
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post Oct 17 2006, 05:25 PM

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how did you speak to him? via email? sauce please, would like to shove it into micheal lai's face biggrin.gif
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post Oct 17 2006, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(kev da man @ Oct 17 2006, 05:25 PM)
how did you speak to him? via email? sauce please, would like to shove it into micheal lai's face biggrin.gif
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I spoke to him on my handphone. He called me after my second complaint to CFM.
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post Oct 17 2006, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(What61 @ Oct 17 2006, 05:10 PM)
Bloody TMnut tongue.gif why not we sign an online petition and send it across to them? all low yat members could make like a online complaint or somethig? I also dont believe i will pay rm88 for speeds like this just to use for chat and surf, might as well use something cheaper  vmad.gif
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I do believe the suggestion is valid. Not only should we sign an online petition but we should sign a petition in person and submit it to whoever or watever organization that is supposed to be handling this. Furthermore, we should also bring this to the media and highlight that we as consumers are being cheated from what we are supposed to be getting.

Getting sick and tired of TMNet's responses. End of year so what .. what if in another few years this happens again. They should have the ability to forecast a hike in demand and bandwidth usage before signing up more subscribers. Right now, I guess they are just signing up as many as they can just to earn more and that's totally disadvantageous to us as subscribers.

There's no point in paying for such service when we are not getting what we paid for.
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post Oct 17 2006, 05:35 PM

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Last time i checked, me and the majority of people put surfing over BTing lol.
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post Oct 17 2006, 05:41 PM

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i also think that they should explain what happening now...
they should let all the consumer know what they are doing!!!

they didnt give us any detail that what they are doing!!! mad.gif
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post Oct 17 2006, 05:46 PM

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Finally they say out,i wonder He said they are aware of the situation and our speeds should return once TMnut add in more bandwidth by the end of the year is that true end of the year the speed will return.
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post Oct 17 2006, 06:15 PM

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Hope they consider to lift it from midnight till noon. noob can surf/chat after that. Well, better for noob to cancel streamyx and use dial up for that. At least, mummy can save a bit.

Edit: LOL

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post Oct 17 2006, 06:22 PM

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Let me ask you guys something. You think TMnut will UNTHROTTLE P2P once they 'acquire' more bandwidth? I don't think so. They just spent RM70,000+ (that's just an estimation, could be more) to BUY the throttling device. Are they going to use it for 2-3 months then switch it off after they have bought more bandwidth? Hmm.. I don't think so. Throttling of P2P could be permanent.

That's the reality folks..

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post Oct 17 2006, 06:25 PM

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U check the annual report for TELEKOM. Their earn more than billion.!!

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post Oct 17 2006, 06:30 PM

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U check the annual report for TELEKOM. Their earn more than billion.!!
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Are you saying because they earn BILLIONS that RM70,000 is nothing to them? So they can use for 2-3 months then the thing collect dust? I don't think so. If they have BILLIONS then why they didn't just BUY more bandwidth immediately?

I'm just saying this just to remind you all not to keep your hopes up on getting P2P unthrottled by end of the year. I seriously doubt they going to do it.

I'm a heavy BT users and I am pissed that TMnut did this to us. So I'm going to have to look for alternative (which I don't see one) or spend a little bit more money to circumvent the throttling.

But I would be happy to be proven wrong at the end of the year if they decide to junk the throttle device and give us full bandwidth again. rclxm9.gif

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QUOTE(Exarkun @ Oct 17 2006, 06:22 PM)
Let me ask you guys something. You think TMnut will UNTHROTTLE P2P once they 'acquire' more bandwidth? I don't think so. They just spent RM70,000+ (that's just an estimation, could be more) to BUY the throttling device. Are they going to use it for 2-3 months then switch it off after they have bought more bandwidth? Hmm.. I don't think so. Throttling of P2P could be permanent.

That's the reality folks..
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You'll never know how things may turn out here in Malaysia. By logic, i do agree with you.

But i rather go by without any logic at all.

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hmm.. i am still fine with the trottle.. lol..cos slow after midnite only.. morning time still okie.. quiet fast..

most countries throttle P2P traffic.. so we all shud have expected this to happen oneday biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Exarkun @ Oct 17 2006, 06:22 PM)
Let me ask you guys something. You think TMnut will UNTHROTTLE P2P once they 'acquire' more bandwidth? I don't think so. They just spent RM70,000+ (that's just an estimation, could be more) to BUY the throttling device. Are they going to use it for 2-3 months then switch it off after they have bought more bandwidth? Hmm.. I don't think so. Throttling of P2P could be permanent.

That's the reality folks..
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If too many users complaint they will sure have to switch it off. Maybe they will still use the device but not 24/7. Anyway RM70,000+++ is nothing to these big guys!!!Its not even 1% of their total net profit.
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QUOTE(momocow @ Oct 17 2006, 08:15 PM)
If too many users complaint they will sure have to switch it off. Maybe they will still use the device but not 24/7. Anyway RM70,000+++ is nothing to these big guys!!!Its not even 1% of their total net profit.
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70k? even tho i'm not TMNet, but that is too cheap! for any cisco with optical capabilities, which can do deep packet filtering, and with manageable policies...ermmmm...and they are not using only one! the amount = at least not less than 5.

if the thread starter happened to call the CEO's staff again, ask him...how much does TMNet earn from Streamyx vs the operating cost? My bet, streamyx maybe big in revenue, but not really making TMNet significantly richer!

Yeah, TELEKOM's revenue is big, but bear in mind, they are the parent company, which have lot more costs to cover! TMNet is just one of it's subsidary.

If anyone here think it's cheap to have international links, i would share some info, an ISP internet g/way (Core Router/Switch) would cost you coupleofmillions per site. That is only on the box, excluding the rent from cable providers + other expenditures.

The point is, it's easier to tell n say, rather than to do and 'buy' . some may disagree with me..but WTH, i hates to see a thread easily drifted far from reality ...

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I'm damn pissed off. I've got loads of list to be dl.....

Thinking of changing to jaring or other broadband services......

There's no point for broadband if can't p2p.........


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QUOTE(nwk @ Oct 17 2006, 04:52 PM)
In response, I asked to pass some of my suggestions to their management. I suggested that TMnut don't throttle 24 hours a day because nobody is going to surf & chat 24 hours everyday and please have some consideration for P2P users like me who pay RM99 a month for the speed. I asked if TMnut can lift the throttle after midnight and give us our speed until 12 Noon. He said he understand because he also use P2P and it isn't fair to customers like me. Then I said why should I pay RM99 a month just to get slow dial-up speed? I might as well switch back to TMnet 1515 dial-up service if I wanted to surf & chat. I told him, if you want to be fair to all users then don't throttle 24 hours a day and lift the restrictions after midnight so guys like me can get what we are paying for.
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i don't know is it because of your conversation that many (including me) people now are being unthrottle today. but i would like to say thanks anyway. notworthy.gif thumbup.gif
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Thanks for clearing up this issue once and for all. At least we know what's happening. It the effort of ppl like you who should deserve some credits!

Kudos nwk
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post Oct 18 2006, 01:14 AM

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For me I am still throttled (though I am getting download speeds off proxy now). *sigh*

Maybe I should complain to CS tomorrow.
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post Oct 18 2006, 01:54 AM

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I just spoke to the customer support who doesnt even know what throttling is, and said TMNET is not blocking anything at all.

Many people have said about online petition, maybe its time for someone to start it

http://www.petitiononline.com/petition.html

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post Oct 18 2006, 02:10 AM

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If one of you guys want to start an online petition, I will be glad to sign up! As for complaining to CS about throttling, don't waste your time on them because all they will give you is a standard answer full of denials. Instead complain to CFM and get the truth out of them like me.

I hear some people in various areas have been unthrottled and I don't know if it's because of my suggestions or what, but I myself am still being throttled right now. I am only standing up for my rights as a consumer because I feel I have been cheated by all this throttling. I suggest all you guys who are still being throttled to do the same like me.

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QUOTE(nwk @ Oct 18 2006, 02:10 AM)
If one of you guys want to start an online petition, I will be glad to sign up! As for complaining to CS about throttling, don't waste your time on them because all they will give you is a standard answer full of denials. Instead complain to CFM and get the truth out of them like me.

I hear some people in various areas have been unthrottled and I don't know if it's because of my suggestions or what, but I myself am still being throttled right now. I am only standing up for my rights as a consumer because I feel I have been cheated by all this throttling. I suggest all you guys who are still being throttled to do the same like me.
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weird, my speed back to 80-100kb/s !!
unthrottled in melaka now?

Thanks , maybe your complaint works. laugh.gif

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i just received a call from CFM asking me if TMnet had contacted me about my complaint. I said yes, and I explained to them what TMnet told me. I told them it isn't fair to me that I have to wait for TMnet to add in more bandwidth to get back my speed and the lady at CFM told me if I am still being throttled by the end of the week, I can lodge a new complaint against TMnet again. So guys, if you are still being throttled like me, don't waste your time calling TMnut. Call CFM instead to put pressure on TMnut until they give you what you have paid for.
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Excuse me for my ignorance. What is CFM??
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Excuse me for my ignorance. What is CFM??
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please refer to this thread for more info on CFM: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=334697
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TmNet have its own policy also mar ...
well , play da game , follow da rules ...

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QUOTE(imsorchai @ Oct 18 2006, 11:16 AM)
TmNet have its own policy also mar ...
well , play da game , follow da rules ...

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lol..they can't even provide the basic of broadband connection

we as consumer don't have to be nice to them,just taruh them when there is chances


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QUOTE(wengjoe @ Oct 18 2006, 11:27 AM)
lol..they can't even provide the basic of broadband connection

we as consumer don't have to be nice to them,just taruh them when there is chances
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yeah , i do agree with u ...
hmm , i hope there is no problem of connecting to internet enough liau

once u complaint , they will be upgrade service ,
when there is upgrade service , all services affected....
hahaha ....

so upgrade or no upgrade?
complaint or not complaint ?
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no point of using streamyx package..if for only surf and chat..
in other country, they pay the same amount but getting 8mb or higher speed....what is this tmnet...conquer the market then just do what they want for their goods...shit!
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hrmm ... i can still remember BT at Penang for the past few months are like 15-30 kBps ...

but now i can get 100+ speed ....

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for my area (kuching), the bt speed is running ok laiw biggrin.gif
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speeds to the top now. throttle what?
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QUOTE(biatche @ Oct 18 2006, 01:28 PM)
speeds to the top now. throttle what?
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not all speed are to the "top", b****ed! oops...did i spell your nick wrong? ah well, i wish sanook was here to put this defender of the tmnut universe in his place.
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QUOTE(biatche @ Oct 18 2006, 01:28 PM)
speeds to the top now. throttle what?
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what are you trying to say? Pls don't fool the noobs as we, the experienced know what is going on and will always enlighten the lost. cool.gif
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Guess what TMnut is doing to me..
I cant even access the CFM website after loading 1min
and today my connection have became worse
BT d/l only max <10kbps
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QUOTE(BooMer86 @ Oct 18 2006, 04:01 PM)
Guess what TMnut is doing to me..
I cant even access the CFM website after loading 1min
and today my connection have became worse
BT d/l only max <10kbps
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you don't need to access CFM website if you want to complain. Just call 1-800-18-2222 at their hotline and fire away your complaints.
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we get the 24 hours unthrottled connection probably becoz they are config/testing their new system, they are checking the bandwidth diffrent between throttled and unthrottled.
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Honestly, all these problems are simply because of the fact that they are offering free unlimited access. As we have all learned the painful way right now, there is no such thing as unlimited access. Anyone who has learned Economics will understand the idea of scarcity of resources.

What they should be doing right now is offer two tiered packages, one where you pay a minimal amount for say 1 GB worth of downloads a month. The other would be where we pay a premium amount for unlimited downloads. Honestly, it's the only way to be able to offer broadband at the advertised bandwidth.

I disagree with all this crappy throttling because, by right, we all signed contracts that said we will be getting the advertised bandwidth on a best effort basis. Now we find out that we are being actively denied that bandwidth because they ran out of bandwidth. Not best effort, right? smile.gif

It's like I sell you two packets of wan tan mee. You pay me for two packets, but I give you one packet only. My excuse is that I ran out of wan tan mee to sell. Now does that sound right to anybody here?

Honestly, they should never have started selling that unlimited package thing in the first place. Now they can't keep up and they're blaming us instead. If TM Net truly want to redeem themselves, stop the unlimited package thing. Let all existing unlimited contracts run out and offer capped download packages after that. Then at least, when I pay RM 88 for 1Mbps, I know I'm getting 1Mbps. Not some bullshit rate.
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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Oct 18 2006, 10:22 PM)
Honestly, all these problems are simply because of the fact that they are offering free unlimited access. As we have all learned the painful way right now, there is no such thing as unlimited access. Anyone who has learned Economics will understand the idea of scarcity of resources.

What they should be doing right now is offer two tiered packages, one where you pay a minimal amount for say 1 GB worth of downloads a month. The other would be where we pay a premium amount for unlimited downloads. Honestly, it's the only way to be able to offer broadband at the advertised bandwidth.

I disagree with all this crappy throttling because, by right, we all signed contracts that said we will be getting the advertised bandwidth on a best effort basis. Now we find out that we are being actively denied that bandwidth because they ran out of bandwidth. Not best effort, right? smile.gif

It's like I sell you two packets of wan tan mee. You pay me for two packets, but I give you one packet only. My excuse is that I ran out of wan tan mee to sell. Now does that sound right to anybody here?

Honestly, they should never have started selling that unlimited package thing in the first place. Now they can't keep up and they're blaming us instead. If TM Net truly want to redeem themselves, stop the unlimited package thing. Let all existing unlimited contracts run out and offer capped download packages after that. Then at least, when I pay RM 88 for 1Mbps, I know I'm getting 1Mbps. Not some bullshit rate.
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I agree with you. TMnut is robbing us in broad daylight with this throttling bullshit after promising us unlimited access and downloads. That's why I am going to make another complaint to CFM tomorrow. This will be my third complaint to CFM against them. Hopefully this will apply more pressure on them to lift this ridiculous throttle and get us what we paid for.
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i had no prob bt for the past weeks
just about 10pm -> 1am there's abit slow down to smth like 50k
after that can goes back to 80-95k
even noon oso gimme good speed

not to offend u intentionally, but I only trust if I seen it on paper or via authorized channel. If everyone lodge complaint to tmnut and their stuffs from CEO's office will call back i guess CEO's office can change title to 'support' already. i bet their staffs work for CEO have more things to do than entertaining customers' complaints.
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Well, I've complained about this to the CfM too. My downloads still sucked and the guy admitted to me that they were limiting bandwidth in order to control the congestion and there was nothing he could do about it. My browsing improved awhile, but now it's gone to hell again. I guess it's time for me to complain again.

And to add insult to injury, not only does TMnet not compensate us by refunding our fees, they have the cheek to blame us for the congestion too.


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My next complaint to CFM will be to demand for action not words from TMnut. I will tell CFM that I don't want to hear any excuses from them anymore. Either they give me some kind of rebate or lift this stupid throttle. I am not going to wait until the end of the year for TMnut to "add in more bandwidth" and keep on paying RM99 for dial-up speeds. Lets hope they will do just that. I also hope more people here will complain to CFM until TMnut gives us what we have paid for.
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I just made my third complaint to CFM against TMnut. According to CFM, they have been receiving a lot of complaints about slow speeds everyday. Good job guys! Keep on putting the pressure on TMnut and stand up for your consumer rights!
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i already downgrade yesterday, i'm not gonna wait them to add new bandwidth while paying RM88 permonth for surfing and chatting
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YEAH!!!!!!!!!!! Let us complaint and pressure them die die...!!! My situation 2 weeks oledi..no improvement!!!
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post Oct 19 2006, 12:40 PM

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they have not enough bandwidth
yet they introduce 2mbps package... yes, 2mbps, for web browisng and chatting.... chat till u drop dead
Sometimes I wonder what happened to the logical processor in their heads

there really is no point in getting anything more than a basic RM66 package.
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If TMnut have 70K to purchase that stupid device, why don't they use the money to increase the bandwidth instead... rclxub.gif

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soon...Malaysia will be like Iran??!!

Iran bans high-speed internet

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...The move restricts the country's five million internet users to a mere 128k connection, and broadband has been strictly forbidden...

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only a leader with the IQ of a baboon will ban broadband. That will be a huge step backwards for any country in this IT age. Instead of going forward, they go backwards...right back into the STONE AGE!!!
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I just made my third complaint to CFM against TMnut. According to CFM, they have been receiving a lot of complaints about slow speeds everyday. Good job guys! Keep on putting the pressure on TMnut and stand up for your consumer rights!
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I guess tmnet now feel abit panic cause too many user keep complaint via CFM. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
Good job dude. wink.gif wink.gif wink.gif
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QUOTE(nwk @ Oct 19 2006, 12:03 PM)
I just made my third complaint to CFM against TMnut. According to CFM, they have been receiving a lot of complaints about slow speeds everyday. Good job guys! Keep on putting the pressure on TMnut and stand up for your consumer rights!
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i wish it work.. but i kinda think that tmnut doesnt even give a darn about all these complaint.. they partically have their hand cover the whole malaysia liao.. shocking.gif rclxub.gif unsure.gif
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QUOTE(Amika @ Oct 19 2006, 04:13 PM)
i wish it work.. but i kinda think that tmnut doesnt even give a darn about all these complaint.. they partically have their hand cover the whole malaysia liao..  shocking.gif  rclxub.gif  unsure.gif
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if everyone thinks like you do, there would be no need to set up consumer associations like CFM because nobody bothers to complain and would rather have their hard earned money cheated from them. fortunately, not everyone thinks like you do.
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QUOTE(wiseguy58 @ Oct 19 2006, 12:22 PM)
YEAH!!!!!!!!!!! Let us complaint and pressure them die die...!!! My situation 2 weeks oledi..no improvement!!!
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Most of us suffered since the "nationwide upgrades", which were on mid September.

Yes I got throttled since then >_<. A month+.
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like i said.. i wish it work i really do.. but from what i've seen nothing seem to scare them.. but if complaining to cfm does work i've no problem making my complaint to them as well..
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I have never made any complain to CFM but it seem the situation for me has improved greatly. I am happy again.
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I suggest that all of us lodge the complain at CfM or flood their CS mailbox to let them know this matter is a 'big' one. Not a small potatoes... biggrin.gif
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My next complaint to CFM will be to demand for action not words from TMnut. I will tell CFM that I don't want to hear any excuses from them anymore. Either they give me some kind of rebate or lift this stupid throttle. I am not going to wait until the end of the year for TMnut to "add in more bandwidth" and keep on paying RM99 for dial-up speeds. Lets hope they will do just that. I also hope more people here will complain to CFM until TMnut gives us what we have paid for.
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Here's to hoping. thumbup.gif

QUOTE(uNeVErwaLkaloNe @ Oct 19 2006, 12:11 PM)
i already downgrade yesterday, i'm not gonna wait them to add new bandwidth while paying RM88 permonth for surfing and chatting
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I'm considering doing the same thing. How much difference has it been, overall? Downloading and surfing?

QUOTE(Kataro @ Oct 19 2006, 01:22 PM)
If TMnut have 70K to purchase that stupid device, why don't they use the money to increase the bandwidth instead... rclxub.gif
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Upgrading the bandwidth costs hundreds of millions of dollars. Not just 70k, my friend.

QUOTE(nwk @ Oct 19 2006, 03:06 PM)
only a leader with the IQ of a baboon will ban broadband. That will be a huge step backwards for any country in this IT age. Instead of going forward, they go backwards...right back into the STONE AGE!!!
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It's called control. He wants to maintain control and the internet is not something that he can control. That is also a likely method the US will use to attack him.

QUOTE(Haruji Sora @ Oct 19 2006, 04:26 PM)
Most of us suffered since the "nationwide upgrades", which were on mid September.

Yes I got throttled since then >_<. A month+.
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Same here dude. Been suffering for what seems like eternity now.

QUOTE(Amika @ Oct 19 2006, 04:26 PM)
like i said.. i wish it work i really do.. but from what i've seen nothing seem to scare them.. but if complaining to cfm does work i've no problem making my complaint to them as well..
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Whats the point of paying so much but can only do limited stuff. Like buying a sports car but can only drive up to 30kmph
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Whats the point of paying so much but can only do limited stuff. Like buying a sports car but can only drive up to 30kmph
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It's all for "show" only tongue.gif
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To the thread starter,

Was it Mr.Azrul that you spoke to? A certain Mr.Azrul, who claims to be Mr.Lai's personal assitant, called me up after I caused hell at tmnet. biggrin.gif
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To the thread starter,

Was it Mr.Azrul that you spoke to? A certain Mr.Azrul, who claims to be Mr.Lai's personal assitant, called me up after I caused hell at tmnet. biggrin.gif
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I think his name is Azrul. I am not sure but I know he is a malay guy. Anyway, I was more interested in giving the guy a piece of my mind then bothering to remember his name when I spoke to him on my handphone tongue.gif . What kind of hell did you cause at TMnet?

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Haha, i emailed ceo@tm.net.my. Here's the letter i sent:
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I emailed this on a friday night, at about 7pm, and at 9pm got a reply, detailing my rebate! Haha, rm118, woot! I then wrote back, saying that this rebate alone is insufficient, and i DEMAND a reply from Mr.Lai himself.

The next morning i got a call from Mr.Azrul on my handphone, he asked for additional details, assured me Mr.Lai reads all emails, and action would be taken. He also asked me to call him directly incase I had issues later on in the future, which I did and he got them fixed in a day! biggrin.gif

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Haha, i emailed ceo@tm.net.my. Here's the letter i sent:
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erm, so that ceo@tm.net.my is their CEO email izzit unsure.gif
if really goes to him, i have some love letters for TMNet i'd like him to read
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Haha, i emailed ceo@tm.net.my. Here's the letter i sent:
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I emailed this on a friday night, at about 7pm, and at 9pm got a reply, detailing my rebate! Haha, rm118, woot! I then wrote back, saying that this rebate alone is insufficient, and i DEMAND a reply from Mr.Lai himself.

The next morning i got a call from Mr.Azrul on my handphone, he asked for additional details, assured me Mr.Lai reads all emails, and action would be taken. He also asked me to call him directly incase I had issues later on in the future, which I did and he got them fixed in a day! biggrin.gif
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woah!!! that was some hell you raised in michael lai's face. I wished you would also raised some hell about our slow BT speeds in his face too. I am sure he would have stop all the throttling if you did. Good job!

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I hope someone here can held up a campaign to collect opinions from all TM customers. Customers only need to fill up answers for some questions regarding some services from TM. Of coarse customers must provide real name and streamyx ID. These opinions will be the best proof to show to TM about it's BAD service. These feedbacks will also be the best evidence to force TM to improve its' BAD service ASAP.




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i have some FUNNY IDEA that we all can do and its NATIONWIDE. Lets design a t-Shirt with the "ANTI Streamyx" logo on it than each of us go print the T-shirt ouself and wear it, let those TMNut knows that we r angry and not satisfied to their service........:evil:.........hahahahahahhahaa
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I tend to agree
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let's educate the public on how suck tmnut is....
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i found this post on the so called tmnut user group website. looks like this guy is going to sue tmnut for it's bad service and BT throttling.

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He said they are aware of the situation and our speeds should return once TMnut add in more bandwidth by the end of the year.
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I wonder which end of year is that? 2006? 2007? 2008? ..............

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I wonder which end of year is that? 2006? 2007? 2008? ..............
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That will be the year end of 2006.
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QUOTE(nwk @ Oct 20 2006, 03:41 PM)
That will be the year end of 2006.
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Don't hold your breath for it.

Normal wedding dinners also have their delays, what more from TMnet ?

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Don't hold your breath for it.

Normal wedding dinners also have their delays, what more from TMnet ?
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QUOTE(die_257 @ Oct 20 2006, 01:19 PM)
I wonder which end of year is that? 2006? 2007? 2008? ..............
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it is the year 2020
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Don't hold your breath for it.

Normal wedding dinners also have their delays, what more from TMnet ?
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at least wedding dinner have a certain amount of time delay

what tmnut case is delay after delay,there is no ending to it.

can't wait till new ISP comes to Malaysia (dream on) wink.gif

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QUOTE(wengjoe @ Oct 20 2006, 07:27 PM)
at least wedding dinner have a certain amount of time delay

what tmnut case is delay after delay,there is no ending to it.

can't wait till new ISP comes to Malaysia (dream on)  wink.gif
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TM actually know about our complaints and TM is doing improvement.
But, I am not satisfy with the improvement progress. TOO SLOW.

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LOL just shoot 1 full scape of compliant to CFM and they called me the next day...(monday)
asking me whats going on.. and i said my BT are damn slow! so spoke to the tm net people about it and they said uh we cant give more bandwidth cause the cyberjaya server down and crap like link to hk was cut off...so i said when will it be fix they answered tommorow...so i waited until the day before yesterday and it dint solve till 12 midnight and i Shoot again and gues wats their answer this time...
Bt cannot access international link cause i am using a fire wall but then i am using a portforward off my fire wall and it still dint improve. yesterday called CFM and issue more complaints...
Streamyx man arrive check my speed and everything then he say no problem...before he went home i showed him the BT speed even he say " WTF" so damn slow..he call his office and ask the people there to increase my speed to 1.5mb ...result same as usual...
so he said he wil try his best to see why it happened "AT HIS OFFICE"....
called CFM again today.... Told them same story....
Streamyx man called me and in the end he admit most of the ip throttle to give more chance to ppl who uses STREAMYX to surf and chat...-.-

end of story
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QUOTE(chipowiski @ Oct 20 2006, 08:04 PM)
LOL just shoot 1 full scape of compliant to CFM and they called me the next day...(monday)
asking me whats going on.. and i said my BT are damn slow! so spoke to the tm net people about it and they said uh we cant give more bandwidth cause the cyberjaya server down and crap like link to hk was cut off...so i said when will it be fix they answered tommorow...so i waited until the day before yesterday and it dint solve till 12 midnight and i Shoot again and gues wats their answer  this time...
Bt cannot access international link cause i am using a fire wall but then i am using a portforward off my fire wall and it still dint improve. yesterday called CFM and issue more complaints...
Streamyx man arrive check my speed and everything then he say no problem...before he went home i showed him the BT speed even he say " WTF" so damn slow..he call his office and ask the people there to increase my speed to 1.5mb ...result same as usual...
so he said he wil try his best to see why it happened "AT HIS OFFICE"....
called CFM again today.... Told them same story....
Streamyx man called me and in the end he admit most of the ip throttle to give more chance to ppl who uses STREAMYX to surf and chat...-.-

end of story
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how you feel about BT throttled issue ?? after many days of investigation ??
so, it is obvious TM is throttling BT, right ??
anyway, I am admire you BRAVE flex.gif to call TM guys to check the BT speed ... may be you don't scare of TM to check out those "P" items inside you computer.

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may be you don't scare of TM to check out those "P" items inside you computer.
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ROFL,if they know what's that and they dare to ask then just share with them. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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Ok, dudes...I stumbled upon this thread, and I have the utmost respect for u guys, the deeds you guys do are an example for all us lambs.. Anyway, on to my point:

I think I found a way to bypass the P2P block, might not be fool-proof, but it seems to work pretty fine on my side.

Ok, this works on multiple computers at once, in my case, my house has 4 computers sharing the same line....yeah. Now, I was downloading BT file A, which has miltiple files in it, my total speed was 30K, I was pissed off, then it hit me. I set each computer to download seperate files onto individual computers, and guess what...lol...all files were downloading at 30K on individual computers, get it??

So, my theory, if you have multiple computers at hand, hook em up and download seperate files, or better yet, seperate PACKETS of a BT file on different computers...hope this helps!
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QUOTE(Maverick_Neutron @ Oct 20 2006, 08:31 PM)
Ok, dudes...I stumbled upon this thread, and I have the utmost respect for u guys, the deeds you guys do are an example for all us lambs.. Anyway, on to my point:

I think I found a way to bypass the P2P block, might not be fool-proof, but it seems to work pretty fine on my side.

Ok, this works on multiple computers at once, in my case, my house has 4 computers sharing the same line....yeah. Now, I was downloading BT file A, which has miltiple files in it, my total speed was 30K, I was pissed off, then it hit me. I set each computer to download seperate files onto individual computers, and guess what...lol...all files were downloading at 30K on individual computers, get it??

So, my theory, if you have multiple computers at hand, hook em up and download seperate files, or better yet, seperate PACKETS of a BT file on different computers...hope this helps!
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this won't be of much use to the majority of BT users here because most of us are connected to a stand alone PC. We mostly bypass the stupid shaping with other alternatives already discussed in another thread. But thanks anyway for the tip! smile.gif

QUOTE(chipowiski @ Oct 20 2006, 08:04 PM)
LOL just shoot 1 full scape of compliant to CFM and they called me the next day...(monday)
asking me whats going on.. and i said my BT are damn slow! so spoke to the tm net people about it and they said uh we cant give more bandwidth cause the cyberjaya server down and crap like link to hk was cut off...so i said when will it be fix they answered tommorow...so i waited until the day before yesterday and it dint solve till 12 midnight and i Shoot again and gues wats their answer  this time...
Bt cannot access international link cause i am using a fire wall but then i am using a portforward off my fire wall and it still dint improve. yesterday called CFM and issue more complaints...
Streamyx man arrive check my speed and everything then he say no problem...before he went home i showed him the BT speed even he say " WTF" so damn slow..he call his office and ask the people there to increase my speed to 1.5mb ...result same as usual...
so he said he wil try his best to see why it happened "AT HIS OFFICE"....
called CFM again today.... Told them same story....
Streamyx man called me and in the end he admit most of the ip throttle to give more chance to ppl who uses STREAMYX to surf and chat...-.-

end of story
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Another case that has confirmed the traffic shapping TMnut has been doing all along. They do it so well, that even their own technicians have no idea what is going on until they check with their HQ. Good work! Don't give up yet, call CFM again and tell them that you demand TMnut give you the speed you are paying for or give you a rebate. You should also say that you don't want to hear anymore of their lame excuses!
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QUOTE(nwk @ Oct 20 2006, 11:43 AM)
i found this post on the so called tmnut user group website. looks like this guy is going to sue tmnut for it's bad service and BT throttling.
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That's exactly what I think so too. It is my opinion that this throttling thing is wholly illegal. They advertised and we signed a contract that specifically stated they give us an unlimited 1Mbps/etc line for RM77/88/99/etc a month. Now, not only are they complaining that we're using that bandwidth they promised us and we paid for, they're also throttling us. That's not "best effort". That's actively denying us the service that they advertised and that we signed a contract and paid for. It's not our fault that they oversold their bandwidth.

This fiasco was coming the moment they advertised unlimited bandwidth and yet refused to upgrade their infrastructure. There were repeated complaints from customers about this for a long time. Someone here even emailed the gateway provider and they mentioned that they had advised TM Net to open another gateway, to which TM Net did not respond. Until now when it's too late. Add that stupidity to the fact that there is no such thing as unlimited bandwidth and that they should have provided a capped package instead of this bogus unlimited package.

Needless to say, I just shot off another complaint to the CfM.

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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Oct 20 2006, 09:56 PM)
That's exactly what I think so too. It is my opinion that this throttling thing is wholly illegal. They advertised and we signed a contract that specifically stated they give us an unlimited 1Mbps/etc line for RM77/88/99/etc a month. Now, not only are they complaining that we're using that bandwidth they promised us and we paid for, they're also throttling us. That's not "best effort". That's actively denying us the service that they advertised and that we signed a contract and paid for. It's not our fault that they oversold their bandwidth.

This fiasco was coming the moment they advertised unlimited bandwidth and yet refused to upgrade their infrastructure. There were repeated complaints from customers about this for a long time. Someone here even emailed the gateway provider and they mentioned that they had advised TM Net to open another gateway, to which TM Net did not respond. Until now when it's too late. Add that stupidity to the fact that there is no such thing as unlimited bandwidth and that they should have provided a capped package instead of this bogus unlimited package.

Needless to say, I just shot off another complaint to the CfM.
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sabarlah , bro ... don't put too much hope toward TM.
maybe we should lower our expectation ... TM is providing its' best efford. Even though, TM's service is BAD. But, at least we still can access internet.

anyway I still look forward to see more attached reply from cfm. keep on complaints will be the only method to release customers' anger.
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QUOTE(work_tgr @ Oct 20 2006, 10:40 PM)
sabarlah , bro ... don't put too much hope toward TM.
maybe we should lower our expectation ... TM is providing its' best efford. Even though, TM's service is BAD. But, at least we still can access internet.

anyway I still look forward to see more attached reply from cfm. keep on complaints will be the only method to release customers' anger.
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hehe, thats a positive way to look at it though biggrin.gif

indeed we can access internet, but i'll be very unfair to those who pays more for the faster package. The only practical thing that need anything faster than a basic 512k package is p2p activities, so all these user pays 22 bucks more than others in believes that it will meet their p2p requirement, but now TmNet is killing off the only application which moves user to get the faster package

It's like they gives us faster bandwidth, but they tell us how to use it
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QUOTE(work_tgr @ Oct 20 2006, 10:40 PM)
sabarlah , bro ... don't put too much hope toward TM.
maybe we should lower our expectation ... TM is providing its' best efford. Even though, TM's service is BAD. But, at least we still can access internet.

anyway I still look forward to see more attached reply from cfm. keep on complaints will be the only method to release customers' anger.
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sabar??!! I have already run out of patience with this nincompoop, imcompetent, fradulent ISP!!!! I am still waiting for them to call me after sending my third complaint to CFM. If I don't hear from those monkeys after the Raya holidays, I am going to call CFM again and again and again until they know my name until I become famous over there. Or should I say infamous.....

Anyway, I am not going to let this moronic ISP rob me of my hard earned money without a fight!
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even after throttle P2P connection, online gaming also lag like hell, as usual...What is the meaning of Internet to TMnut? A broadband in Malaysia, but snailband in oversea?
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everybody lets downgrade their package, i wonder how tmnut will react if their monthly revenue reduce by 1/4

i just don’t want pay a single cent more to such a incompetent, impotent internet service provider......
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TMNut is so useless now
even gaming also lag! wtf of throttling speed of p2p?
Mayb we keep on using p2p and the CEO cant stream some pAwN so he asked them to limit the bandwidth of us so that he can enjoy pAwN at better rate.
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QUOTE(pds_disi @ Oct 21 2006, 12:32 AM)
everybody lets downgrade their package, i wonder how tmnut will react if their monthly revenue reduce by 1/4

i just don't want pay a single cent more to such a incompetent, impotent internet service provider......
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that's a good idea. but however, it wouldn't bring any effect to TM. TM is supported by government ... so, no point to not pay your bill. after all, TM will just cut off your internet for late payment. At last, you still need to pay.

about downgrade ... TM , is actually like customer to downgrade ( since TM's broadbandwidth is not enough to support nowadays' download need.


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i dun feel any slowdown even on BT, jz normal speed.....is this realli true??
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QUOTE(evilhomura89 @ Oct 21 2006, 12:08 PM)
i dun feel any slowdown even on BT, jz normal speed.....is this realli true??
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i pay for the 512k package but i don't get the speed as promised... i won't 'halal' the money the got from me... i feel like being cheated by them... best service effort? WTF, 10kbps is your best??!! mad.gif


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QUOTE(work_tgr @ Oct 21 2006, 12:57 PM)
which planet you come from ?? rclxub.gif
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planet earth, BM, Penang
yup, my BT still running full speed 55-60KB/s for RM66 - 512Kbps package
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QUOTE(emy_xvidia @ Oct 21 2006, 02:43 PM)
i pay for the 512k package but i don't get the speed as promised... i won't 'halal' the money the got from me... i feel like being cheated by them... best service effort? WTF, 10kbps is your best??!!  mad.gif
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QUOTE(evilhomura89 @ Oct 21 2006, 02:45 PM)
planet earth, BM, Penang
yup, my BT still running full speed 55-60KB/s for RM66 - 512Kbps package
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Not everyone is throttled, just a majority of them I guess biggrin.gif

Bukit Mertajam Penang got a mixture of throttled and unthrottled users, so I guess you're unthrottled then biggrin.gif

Be glad about it biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Haruji Sora @ Oct 21 2006, 04:30 PM)
Not everyone is throttled, just a majority of them I guess biggrin.gif

Bukit Mertajam Penang got a mixture of throttled and unthrottled users, so I guess you're unthrottled then biggrin.gif

Be glad about it biggrin.gif
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sounds like penang area got some "priority" blink.gif
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24hour no throttle for me...
very gratefull... rclxms.gif
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hehe...me from ipoh...
24hour no throttle for me...
very gratefull... rclxms.gif
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Sabah, Kota Kinabalu, Luyang - full on throttle 24/7 with exception to that one day this week it was yoyo'ing but still under 20kB/s on the 1mb package.
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QUOTE(hr_elie @ Oct 21 2006, 07:34 PM)
hehe...me from ipoh...
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very gratefull... rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(work_tgr @ Oct 21 2006, 07:49 PM)
really ?? r u using streamyx ?? shakehead.gif
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how can i subcribe to jaring in ipoh...
512kb package..
got 1536/512 capping..
but no use lor...
tough luck you know...
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for every second i curse at TMnet... mad.gif f*ck them for not providing us a stable and fast connection... if they ban p2p forever, i will instantly terminate my streamyx... vmad.gif arghhh... so damn bored la, cannot download animes... so f*cking slow... unsure.gif
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QUOTE(emy_xvidia @ Oct 21 2006, 07:57 PM)
for every second i curse at TMnet...  mad.gif  f*ck them for not providing us a stable and fast connection... if they ban p2p forever, i will instantly terminate my streamyx...  vmad.gif arghhh... so damn bored la, cannot download animes... so f*cking slow...  unsure.gif
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don't angry lah ... take a break.
maybe it is time for you to have a hair cut laugh.gif

curse also no use ..if you terminate broadband, TM will not lose anything.
better to download other thing with many local peer.
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please vote your opinion
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=356672
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I'm not sure whether this has been posted.....but I've received this reply from Streamyx when I made a complaint to them regarding my P2P download speed. Sorry if it has been posted earlier. Here's the reply:


Dear Sir/Madam,

Thank you for your e-mail to TM Net.

Referring to your e-mail please be informed that prior to the remarkable rise of P2P traffic recently, it has indiscriminately pushed onto the maximum utilization of our network capacity, while on the other hand proven to be utilized by only 20% of our total user.

Due to this, currently, bandwidth are not equally distributed amongst DSL users upon file sharing applications and thus, resulting in a reduced performance in P2P applications. Nevertheless, such exercise is not exceptional, as some other non-local service provider has already been doing this so as to manage the impact of P2P traffic on their network.

Regretfully, this approach can easily be positioned as unfavourable amongst our subscriber, and we're truly aware of this. While this is not a popular method of controlling Internet traffic, the fluctuation of the connectivity will be considered as best effort basis. The problem may surface and appear later depends on the condition of the NET. The feedback received from your good self is very significant for us to improve and again, this is actually how the service is improved wherever DSL technology is offered on the other side of the world.

Should you require further assistance or would like to submit any enquiry/feedback, kindly visit www.tm.net.my and click "Need Help? Contact our Customer Service".

Thank you.


Regards,
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TM Net Sdn. Bhd.

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u know, it all just sounds to me like they rather sit back and watch the line idle rather than have it fully utillize, really.. look, they did NOT mention any traffic congestion, all they say is its not fairly distributed and maximum utilization.

1. what is wrong with full utilization of our country bandwidth?

2. Would they rather distribute it evenly and have a load of bandwidth idling because of the difference usage (INEFFECTIVE UTILIZATION) or let this extra, idling bandwidth serve those who need it more (EFFECTIVE UTILIZATION) ?

Clearly it isnt about congestion, but they WANTS the line to be idle, for whatever reason. My guess, reduce international bandwidth usage to save cost. The bandwidth is there, they just didnt want to pay for it.

These ppl are a horrible bunch of cynics..

just my 2 cent though
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QUOTE(nwk @ Oct 22 2006, 01:30 AM)
That's why we complain to CFM instead of wasting our time and money complaining to TMnut.
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Complain them? On what basis? Do they have the rights to limit the bandwidth of the users? As i post it in other topic.....they can claim that their service is 'at best effort basis'. They don't claim the minimum and maximum of speed they can provide. I think that's the very first question to be answer before things can be improve.

Unless MCMC can force them to commit the minimum quality of service to the users. There is nothing much we can do about it.

The second question is how many legal (or illegal?) content that is utilising the major bandwidth of P2P users like us? Before MCMC can push them for further commitment as per mentioned above, I think they will use this silver bullet to brush off the suggestion.

That's my 2 cents of pessimistic opinion. I really hope somebody here can prove otherwise.
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Anyone here can interpret whether Streamyx has violated any "Internet Access Service Provider (IASP) Sub-Code for the Communications and Multimedia Industry Malaysia" especially Part 2 Section 4 by the means of traffic shaping?

The link to the Code is available at http://www.cfm.org.my/download?filename=IASPsubCode.pdf
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i saying this might put you down though, no matter how u complain, it might useless.

You have to read the aggreement when u sign up for streamyx.
For now, i post again the agreement and read again b4 shouting.

due to more and more meaningless thread coming up.

But i do agree unthrottling after peak hour.
Maybe 10pm - 6am.

But i hope not all of u like screaming around bcoz of cant download fast bcoz of slow bt.
some might just firewall, port forward problems.

1. They claim they provide thier services as best effort basis
(From downloading online from http/ftp local sites reaching 70% as advertise speed) but never stated in agreement, we can sue them as leading customer wrong thinking of services with the advertisment they provide.

2. If they throttle the p2p, they do have right though. Read the agreement please.
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TM Net reserves the right to amend the terms and conditions herein contained and/or the specific terms at any time and the Customer shall be bound by the amended terms and conditions. Notice of the amendment may be given by TM Net to the Customer
in such manner as TM Net deems appropriate.)

3. Unfortunately, if we sue them, and they do able to check wat you getting, or even what u downloading, as wat i seen most of the p2p user is downloading movies, music and games. and heck, tats illegal. you sue them and they check what you downloading, well...see who lose more only. As you may charge for distribute illegal materials or copyrighted materials online. So dont think you are safe.
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So, do understand the agreement when u sign. posting in forum yelling is useless, only thing is ask them to redo the agreement.

And yet, they wont be against the law as long as we sign the agreement though.


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The terms and condition of the agreement must also comply to the code. Therefore, it doesn't mean that subsequent action or amendment by the service provider cannot be challenge. Even existing terms and conditions can be challenge if it deems violate the code.

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slacker you're spot on. throttling is some form for censorship. this is expressively forbidden. any half-way savvy lawyer can make a case out of this. the terms and conditions mean nothing with respect to this particular issue. tm.net has zero legal ground to temper with anyone's datastream for no reason whatsoever.
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QUOTE(PJusa @ Oct 22 2006, 09:38 AM)
slacker you're spot on. throttling is some form for censorship. this is expressively forbidden. any half-way savvy lawyer can make a case out of this. the terms and conditions mean nothing with respect to this particular issue. tm.net has zero legal ground to temper with anyone's datastream for no reason whatsoever.
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sounds like you know much about law.
why not you consult a lawyer to sue TMnet.
I will be your first supporter .
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BT Speed in Miri still BAD! I get average 3kb/s only! Sometime can go MAX I believe its a local seed.

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this few days , melaka speed only ~10-30kb/s !!

if comfirm throttling P2P , I want cancel two 1mb adsl line..
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QUOTE(yangxi @ Oct 22 2006, 11:54 AM)
this few days , melaka speed only ~10-30kb/s !!

if comfirm throttling P2P ,  I want cancel two 1mb adsl line..
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heheh, u can break pass the 10kbps barrier
mine cant even reach 10kbps..

but mine already basic RM66 package already, so cant do anything, though its a waste pay RM66 but my line is close to idle all the time..
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really f*** their mom for the past 1 month ive been getting average 1~3kb for all my torrent dls. f*** their mom seriousl.y
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QUOTE(nVidiaFX @ Oct 22 2006, 12:39 PM)
really f*** their mom for the past 1 month ive been getting average 1~3kb for all my torrent dls. f*** their mom seriousl.y
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their mom ?? are you serious ?? tongue.gif
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i cant even connect to msn. any 1 has this problem ?
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QUOTE(Teong85 @ Oct 22 2006, 01:10 PM)
i cant even connect to msn. any 1 has this problem ?
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I always got this problem. don't know why. even before TM throttle BT.. rclxub.gif
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their mom ?? are you serious ?? tongue.gif
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how do we reach the CEO's office, and how do we reach the CFM? Tell me i m so pissed with the connection.
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QUOTE(carnbyresurrected @ Oct 22 2006, 02:23 PM)
MILF...hehehehehehehe.....i want too
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serious man, serious!!
TM must improve its' service immediately.
customers' anger are growing up every day vmad.gif
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please vote your opinion here. I need more votes, thanks.
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=356672
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QUOTE(guardioo @ Oct 22 2006, 07:33 AM)
i saying this might put you down though, no matter how u complain, it might useless.

You have to read the aggreement when u sign up for streamyx.
For now, i post again the agreement and read again b4 shouting.

due to more and more meaningless thread coming up.

But i do agree unthrottling after peak hour.
Maybe 10pm - 6am.

But i hope not all of u like screaming around bcoz of cant download fast bcoz of slow bt.
some might just firewall, port forward problems.

1. They claim they provide thier services as best effort basis
(From downloading online  from http/ftp local sites reaching 70% as advertise speed) but never stated in agreement, we can sue them as leading customer wrong thinking of services with the advertisment they provide.

2. If they throttle the p2p, they do have right though. Read the agreement please.
(Variation
TM Net reserves the right to amend the terms and conditions herein contained and/or the specific terms at any time and the Customer shall be bound by the amended terms and conditions. Notice of the amendment may be given by TM Net to the Customer
in such manner as TM Net deems appropriate.)

3. Unfortunately, if we sue them, and they do able to check wat you getting, or even what u downloading, as wat i seen most of the p2p user is downloading movies, music and games. and heck, tats illegal. you sue them and they check what you downloading, well...see who lose more only. As you may charge for distribute illegal materials or copyrighted materials online. So dont think you are safe.
(Compliance with applicable laws
The Customer shall comply with and not to contravene any and all applicable laws and regulations of Malaysia relating to the Service or otherwise, including but not limited to Communication and Multimedia Act 1998 and its subsidiary legislation, other Acts
of Parliament, local by-laws, rules and regulations issued by relevant government bodies and/or authorities.)

So, do understand the agreement when u sign. posting in forum yelling is useless, only thing is ask them to redo the agreement.

And yet, they wont be against the law as long as we sign the agreement though.
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our action to sue them is totally unrelated to any action that the Government may take against us for downloading pirated materials. it is two separate issues. whether the Government will charge us or not is a different matter entirely.
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i called their tech support line, they said they're not doing any p2p blocking.
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QUOTE(Haruji Sora @ Oct 21 2006, 04:30 PM)
Not everyone is throttled, just a majority of them I guess biggrin.gif

Bukit Mertajam Penang got a mixture of throttled and unthrottled users, so I guess you're unthrottled then biggrin.gif

Be glad about it biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(spanker @ Oct 22 2006, 02:37 PM)
i called their tech support line, they said they're not doing any p2p blocking.
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they not "blocking"... this is "throttle"/ "caping"/"shaping" or more common word is "controlling".

TM ordinary stuff wouldn't know nothing about this thing. Even they know, they wouldn't admit it.

just see the statistic shown at
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=356672

more than 60% customers not agree with BT throttled. That is why TM don't dare to admit this officially.

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i called their tech support line, they said they're not doing any p2p blocking.
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then how come mine so slow?? doh.gif stupid broadband... let's call streamyx narrowband... thumbup.gif
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how do we reach the CEO's office, and how do we reach the CFM? Tell me i m so pissed with the connection.
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Aikk...
My BT got throttled since 20 September until now, call the CS tmnut, also never solve the problem.
Previous the speed i can use around 100+, after throttled only get <15kb are better liao, normal only have <10.
CFM aready report , still same

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china link speed worse and worse. My uncle in china can't login my IPCAM in malaysia here.
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QUOTE(spanker @ Oct 22 2006, 02:37 PM)
i called their tech support line, they said they're not doing any p2p blocking.
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HK line, the other side slow... the lamest one was we are not throttling, just bandwidth shaping laugh.gif
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when tmnut finish throttling?
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this is totally unfair.. by paying rm88 for 1mbps is dy an unfair fee... and now they r throttling p2p.. without using p2p, when will we need 1mbps speed ??? normal 384 will be more than enough
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now i don no doing what, just keep at here see got any news with unthrottling or still throttling.
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please vote your opinion here..
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=356672

I need more vote. Thanks.
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Hey all, Im the news editor for Zeropaid.com, a P2P, file-sharing website and am doing an article on this development with TM Net.

Exetel, an Australian ISP, did this previously, cutting P2P speeds in halb from Noon to Midnight, for the same reason supposedly but looks as though will be permanent.

Any comments I an use for my article would be appreciated, like how different your speeds are now and anything you may know as to what's going on . THX

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QUOTE(soulxtc @ Oct 22 2006, 11:09 PM)
Hey all, Im the news editor for Zeropaid.com, a P2P, file-sharing website and am doing an article on this development with TM Net.

Exetel, an Australian ISP, did this previously, cutting P2P speeds in halb from Noon to Midnight, for the same reason supposedly but looks as though will be permanent.

Any comments I an use for my article would be appreciated, like how different your speeds are now and anything you may know as to what's going on .  THX

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here it's like 24/7 capping.. speed like 5k-10k without local peers.. like going back to those dial up days.. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(Amika @ Oct 22 2006, 11:14 PM)
here it's like 24/7 capping.. speed like 5k-10k without local peers.. like going back to those dial up days..  rclxub.gif
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Whats you'r normal connection speed? One guy makes it seem that he's got maybe 10% of what he once had, from 100kbs to now like 10kbs, is this really true?

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post Oct 22 2006, 11:27 PM

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tmnet dont even have to balls to announce anything officially regarding this issue.
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Whats you'r normal connection speed? One guy makes it seem that he's got maybe 10% of what he once had, from 100kbs to now like 10kbs, is this really true?
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yes it's true.. actually everyone is getting that speed now(those that are effected by the capping) i.e. 10k doesn't matter what package u subscribed.. and now after the capping my msn and yahoo messenger kept on disconnecting itself every 5 minutes or so.. and surfing is a pain as well.. everytime i've to refresh a few times before i could get anything from all the website i go to.. shakehead.gif rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(soulxtc @ Oct 22 2006, 11:19 PM)
Whats you'r normal connection speed? One guy makes it seem that he's got maybe 10% of what he once had, from 100kbs to now like 10kbs, is this really true?
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Yes, that true...
previous time have the speed around 100kb,
now only get not more than 12kb on the BT,
but other like FTP and HTTP are no problem
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Before last month.

Normal BT speeds for RM88 1024kbps DL package = 100+kb/s
Normal BT speeds for RM66 512kbps DL package = Around 50 +/-10 kb/s

Since suspected throttling (i use the term suspected because TMNet HAS NOT, i repeat HAS NOT release any form of official announcement in regards to this matter)

Both pckages (torrents without local IP) = Around more or less 5 to 20kb/s. (sometimes ZERO >_<)

Torrents with Local IP can reach up to 50% or more of our max speed, depending on the upload speed given by the local peers (and also the number of connected local peers). Since we're capped on 512kbps Upload, the max we can upload is around 40kb/s, +/- 5kb/s.

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QUOTE(work_tgr @ Oct 20 2006, 08:10 PM)
how you feel about BT throttled issue ?? after many days of investigation ??
so, it is obvious TM is throttling BT, right ??
anyway, I am admire you BRAVE  flex.gif to call TM guys  to check the BT speed ... may be you don't scare of TM to check out those "P" items inside you computer.
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nah they wont...
all the things that they will see is only animes and dvdrips movie...
junks ? ill get them from my frend cause he has not been throttled yet dunno why...
rm 66 can download at 110kb -.-

got latest news from tm...all they said was same all crap that they do not throttle but control....then if they do control wat does throttle mean ? to me its the same...
lols about the streamyx man call...
really hate them i was half way downloading 1 anime about 20gb at 60~70kb..
suddenly the next day waited 1 hour max 15kb only... WTH....
so showed them.... wat happened to my bt...

ps: if they do find weird junks on my pc its not their right to sue me as it is a personal rights item and i dint do anything againts the law about the items so no worries.... if they said i download it...no problem they can check their logs if they can find the downloaded stuff they found ...

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curse also no use ..if you terminate broadband, TM will not lose anything.
better to download other thing with many local peer.


local peer stuff arent exactly wat we need... i mean like u want to download a but they supply more for b than a =.=!!

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Just finished up a story on this throttling by TM Net, we in the P2P community have to stick togther. Exetel already started throttling its Australian customers, before you know it all the ISPs may follow suit.

Anyways, read the story and be sure to Digg It!! if you dig it.

Malaysian ISP Throttles P2P Traffic by 90%

TO DIGG IT!> http://digg.com/tech_news/Malaysian_ISP_Th...P_Traffic_by_90

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walao , even overseas also concern this.
http://kg184613.bravejournal.com/entry/25067/

can somebody post to all malaysia newspaper. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(yangxi @ Oct 23 2006, 01:02 AM)
walao , even overseas also concern this.
http://kg184613.bravejournal.com/entry/25067/

can somebody post to all malaysia newspaper. laugh.gif
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Yah thats a weird one, its called "Mrs. Giggles" but she makes the same point about her connection speeds being drastically reduced as well.

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dunno wat happened recently
cant really say fully throttled
sometimes less than 10kb, den sometimes suddently shoot up to max speed

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QUOTE(ShinAsuka @ Oct 23 2006, 04:59 AM)
dunno wat happened recently
cant really say fully throttled
sometimes less than 10kb, den sometimes suddently shoot up to max speed
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QUOTE(yangxi @ Oct 23 2006, 01:02 AM)
walao , even overseas also concern this.
http://kg184613.bravejournal.com/entry/25067/

can somebody post to all malaysia newspaper. laugh.gif
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I am basically undergoing the same thing as Mrs Giggles - poor internet and international connectivity overall. Putting p2p issues aside, just about the only thing I can do is browse (barely) and irc. Although my speedtest shows that I still have some basic speed, it is only to those specific speedtest servers (makes me sometimes think they allow full speed to those servers so we can't say anything is wrong with our connection, heh). Everything else is crippled. So 1) legitimate transfers = crippled, 2) browsing = crippled, 3) audio streaming = crippled, 4) video streaming = definitely crippled
How is one supposed to update antivirus or OS patches when everything is crippled? HEH
Gaming? Well I can completely forget about even considering that since...BINGO..CRIPPLED!
In the end what can be ascertained from the service of TMNet is that it's all about the money and less about everyone's service, because as one of their customers I sure haven't been satisfied. It could be that they only cater to a specific percentage of customers to satisfy them and forget about the rest. Maybe they are working hard to fix things, who knows, but what I can say of the last few years is I haven't really seen any substantial results. I prefer to hear less reasonings of the why's and what's regarding the problem at hand (because we've all seen their replies and it is all the same). I just want to see results like everyone else. I sincerely hope that they do rectify this insanely depriving crap that they bestowed upon us a.s.a.p. It truly is sad.
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QUOTE(soulxtc @ Oct 22 2006, 11:19 PM)
Whats you'r normal connection speed? One guy makes it seem that he's got maybe 10% of what he once had, from 100kbs to now like 10kbs, is this really true?
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10kbs? Wow those people are lucky. I'll be lucky if mine even reaches 2kbs
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please vote your opinion here. I need more votes. thanks.
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QUOTE(soulxtc @ Oct 23 2006, 12:41 AM)
Just finished up a story on this throttling by TM Net, we in the P2P community have to stick togther. Exetel already started throttling its Australian customers, before you know it all the ISPs may follow suit.

Anyways, read the story and be sure to Digg It!! if you dig it.

Malaysian ISP Throttles P2P Traffic by 90%

TO DIGG IT!> http://digg.com/tech_news/Malaysian_ISP_Th...P_Traffic_by_90
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Err LOL, my user name got reported as well >_< There's a typo on my name though...

Heh >_<
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QUOTE(Haruji Sora @ Oct 23 2006, 06:46 AM)
Err LOL, my user name got reported as well >_< There's a typo on my name though...

Heh >_<
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Cases like this throttle thingy, it's just useless if you complained to the Customer Service, most of the level 1's doesnt know anything about this throttling thingy because the thing is that they were told by the upper management that there are some downtime in certain areas, and at what time. So even if you want argue about throttling, just make sure to explained to them. Or they will just close the case and you'll just have to make a call another day and lodge a report. And they'll might said that they need two to three working days to process your report.BAH!.

And furthermore, they have a lot of level 1's (ppl who answered the phone when you dial the 1300889515 number) but then ppl tends to quit this job after like one or two month working here, what im trying to say is that they recruit freshies and newbies everyweek and most of them doesnt even know what is a modem or worst doesnt know how does standard streamyx modem looks like. How they troubleshoot you said? they just following the script given. They have certain script for certain normal case. Eg: Slow speed, cant browse, dsl light blinking.

Last time my case was i can get bt connection (very slow), but i cant browse into the net. It's frustrated when mose of them doesnt know what torrent is.

And then they keep saying that they'll process your case within some time frame, usually 3 to 4 working days. WORKING DAYS? yeah right. And sometime when you wait too long and u called and they'll said that your case is still in process, from what i know 90% of that kinda call, some newbies closed the case already without even escalating the case to 2nd level.


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agree ... throttle thingy was done by upper lever person.
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QUOTE(yangxi @ Oct 23 2006, 01:02 AM)
walao , even overseas also concern this.
http://kg184613.bravejournal.com/entry/25067/

can somebody post to all malaysia newspaper. laugh.gif
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i agreed.. someone should post that on our local newspaper.. it's totally ridicurious.. i've the same problem.. my msn kept on disconnecting itself every 5 minutes.. i like what Mrs Giggles said about the throtting equipment being set by some bamboon who doesn't even know how to read the english manual.. thumbup.gif rclxms.gif
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maybe tell this to Dr Mahathir. Later Dr Mahathir will tell our PM ..
How about that ??
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QUOTE(soulxtc @ Oct 22 2006, 11:09 PM)
Hey all, Im the news editor for Zeropaid.com, a P2P, file-sharing website and am doing an article on this development with TM Net.

Exetel, an Australian ISP, did this previously, cutting P2P speeds in halb from Noon to Midnight, for the same reason supposedly but looks as though will be permanent.

Any comments I an use for my article would be appreciated, like how different your speeds are now and anything you may know as to what's going on .  THX

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Wow, I am famous! Thanks for quoting me in your article. Hopefully everyone in the whole wide world will read about how our so called "best broadband provider" in Malaysia is cheating it's customers in broad daylight. I also hope this article will be read by TMnut's CEO and all the politicians in Malaysia so that it will embarrass them until they do something about this unfair situation we are in.
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QUOTE(yangxi @ Oct 23 2006, 01:02 AM)
walao , even overseas also concern this.
http://kg184613.bravejournal.com/entry/25067/

can somebody post to all malaysia newspaper. laugh.gif
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Somebody has sabotaged mrs giggles blog about TMnut, because when I open the page, the text is all scribbled all over the place until it looks like garbage. Is it me or it's my browser acting up? I am using IE7 by the way.
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QUOTE(nwk @ Oct 23 2006, 10:42 AM)
Somebody has sabotaged mrs giggles blog about TMnut, because when I open the page, the text is all scribbled all over the place until it looks like garbage. Is it me or it's my browser acting up? I am using IE7 by the way.
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it's look fine to me.. try firefox.. anyway here is the news...

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8:14 PM
Stupid Malaysian ISP finally comes clean!

People outside of Malaysia think I'm just using it as an excuse to avoid updating the site, but I really had a problem with stable Web connection since the last month. And finally, stupid crappy Malaysian ISP finally comes clean about the reason: they are throttling P2P bandwidth.

If they want to throttle P2P bandwidth because they don't want to spend money to increase their already too-small bandwidth, fine. Many ISPs in many countries are doing that. The thing is, these ISPs reduce the bandwidth by, say, 50%. Being a Malaysian company and therefore by Malaysian law run by idiots of the nth degree, TMNet however "throttle" P2P bandwidth by doing...

I don't what they do, to be honest, but they have succeeded in making my connection to hosts and servers outside of Malaysia completely FUBAR! If the connection is not as slow as a tortoise on its last legs, I cannot connect at all. It isn't just P2P that is affected - every kind of international connection is affected from simple browsing to using MSN to chat to someone outside of Malaysia! I don't know what the babboons in TMNet did but I suspect that they must have hired, as the norm, failed MARA scholars who couldn't read the English manual and just used the eeny-meeny-mo method to determine what buttons to press.

At least other countries have options. In Malaysia, there is only one ISP, which explains why it doesn't give a damn about the quality of its service.

My 1MB broadband connection is pretty much the pits, but the joke is, TMNet is offering now a 2MB broadband service. When they already admitted, after pressure from many people to come clean, that they could barely provide the bandwidth currently needed by the 1MB broadband client base. If this doesn't prove that TMNet is run by spastic babboons from Planet Dumb, I don't know what will.
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btw, thanks soulxtc for quoting me in your report.. hope those bugger in tmnet can see your article..
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QUOTE(Amika @ Oct 23 2006, 10:53 AM)
it's look fine to me.. try firefox.. anyway here is the news...
btw, thanks soulxtc for quoting me in your report.. hope those bugger in tmnet can see your article..
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no prob....just wanted to get your guy's mesage out....I wont brag and say what my connection speeds are right now tongue.gif but, if I was getting 10kbs or less I'd be fuming...

Just all you guys remember to Digg the story and comment on it so it can make the Digg Homepage and get your message out, then you are guaranteed to have tons of people hear and read about your plight and hopefully put pressure on TM Net to get its act together...

Its like Hornet said, its the guys using P2P software who are the ones causing the demand for the fast connections in the first place.


CLICK HERE TO DIGG THE STORY


...and if u guys have any further info I can use to update the story PM me or e-mail me at jared@zeropaid.com. "Long Live P2P!"

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QUOTE(soulxtc @ Oct 23 2006, 11:08 AM)
no prob....just wanted to get your guy's mesage out....I wont brag and say what my connection speeds are right now tongue.gif but, if I was getting 10kbs or less I'd be fuming...

Just all you guys remember to Digg the story and comment on it so it can make the Digg Homepage and get your message out, then you are guaranteed to have tons of people hear and read about your plight and hopefully put pressure on TM Net to get its act together...

Its like Hornet said, its the guys using P2P software who are the ones causing the demand for the fast connections in the first place.
CLICK HERE TO DIGG THE STORY
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Thanks soulxtc for highlighting our problems about P2P throttling on your website. I hope there will be more guys like you who will tell our story to the world about our unfair ISP throttling P2P 24 hours everyday.

Guys please click the link on soulxtc's post and vote for his story and comment on it so more people around the world will hear of it and put pressure on TMnut!!!

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more votes at
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maybe the streamyx dept uses some kinda strategy to throttle,
eg. throttle melaka, penang, johor, but free other regions, then next day throttle other regions but free melaka, penang & johor or etc. (well, the basic idea is to let us fights and disagree among ourselves)

i hope there is a/some wealthy & nice guy from malaysia that want to start up ISP business.
providing internal malaysia internet that run at high speed, so more local people would try to build local internet services.

for tm nut,
stop treating us like idiots, ok!
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maybe the streamyx dept uses some kinda strategy to throttle,
eg. throttle melaka, penang, johor, but free other regions, then next day throttle other regions but free melaka, penang & johor or etc. (well, the basic idea is to let us fights and disagree among ourselves)

i hope there is a/some wealthy & nice guy from malaysia that want to start up ISP business.
providing internal malaysia internet that run at high speed, so more local people would try to build local internet services.

for tm nut,
stop treating us like idiots, ok!
Brother, you are total right for my mine.
I at Ipoh Perak, are arealdy throttle arealdy 1 month, but unlucky in my area only have 1 ISP services.

And the line problem also alway happen 3~4 months once. Few of my friend are using the streamyx also facing the same problem. And we are not all happen at same time, we are happen like queue 1 by 1 in different time, some are life in same area and some are life in same street also happen at different time.

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QUOTE(soulxtc @ Oct 22 2006, 11:19 PM)
Whats you'r normal connection speed? One guy makes it seem that he's got maybe 10% of what he once had, from 100kbs to now like 10kbs, is this really true?
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For god's sakes, can you guys please exercise a bit of caution? You're posting screenshots of your downloads. And they're not exactly legal now are they? smile.gif

As for TM Net's broadband service, I can now officially say that I'm paying RM88 a month for not 1Mbps but 0Mbps broadband. If not for the fact that I'm using a proxy, I wouldn't even be able to surf, let alone do anything else on the net. Literally nothing I send or request is getting in. Wow. It's like I'm paying money for a brick wall on my line. Even internet browsing will not work unless I use that proxy. I get page errors when I don't use the proxy. And it's not to say the proxy is fast or something.

This throttling is unethical and when I see them advertising their 2Mbps lines, I'm thinking to myself that they're falsely advertising cause they're not gonna give anybody the full "unlimited 2Mbps/1Mbps/etc speeds" that they're claiming to give. It's liek we're paying RM88 for slower than dial up speeds.

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Update u guyz on my BT speed 2day - still running full speed
Downloaded stuff etc are censored.....hehe
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don't be so happy. there are plenty of TMnut spies here and you can bet your life, that they are reading this thread now and they know you are still unthrottled. Don't be surprised when in the next couple of days, you find your speeds drop down to zero and you will be in the same boat with us.
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I have just sent an email to soulxtc regarding our P2P throttling. I told him everything from start to finish and how TMnut denied everything until they admitted it to us. I hope he will update his story in his website and more people around the world will know how TMnut is cheating all our money away with this unfair P2P throttling.

If you guys have anything more you would like to tell soulxtc, please email him at jared@zeropaid.com so he can further update his story on his website. LONG LIVE P2P!!!!!!!!!
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QUOTE(nwk @ Oct 24 2006, 12:12 AM)
don't be so happy. there are plenty of TMnut spies here and you can bet your life, that they are reading this thread now and they know you are still unthrottled. Don't be surprised when in the next couple of days, you find your speeds drop down to zero and you will be in the same boat with us.
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hopefully they won't do so......hehe shakehead.gif
in case if my speed goes down, i'll inform u guyz
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After reading this thread, I decide to stop my stupid action to write and complain to customer support from TMnut!
I really really really sicked and frustrated with their stupid either idiot CS asked me to do troubleshooting chores and test the speedmeter. What's use for that! I am complaining on low even no speed for p2p clients instead FTP and HTTP, but gave those funny dumb answers...
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QUOTE(evilhomura89 @ Oct 24 2006, 03:28 PM)
hopefully they won't do so......hehe  shakehead.gif
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is just a matter of time because all the time KL is the first target for all this nonsense

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My P2P speed is like crap again.Surfing net speed also like shit.Looks like i got throttle.
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I honestly think that we need to remind TMnet, P2P has brought tremendous impact towards the subscription each and the coming year.... Do we need 1MB to reply mails and load www.lowyat.net?
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I honestly think that we need to remind TMnet, P2P has brought tremendous impact towards the subscription each and the coming year.... Do we need 1MB to reply mails and load www.lowyat.net?
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of course we don't need 1MB for surfing and emails. like my good friend soulxtc said, it's because of P2P we are using the speed for.
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I honestly think that we need to remind TMnet, P2P has brought tremendous impact towards the subscription each and the coming year.... Do we need 1MB to reply mails and load www.lowyat.net?
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I agree with u either. We apply broadband just for download or upload faster purposes than dial-up. No point to use 2M which already applied in some place if can't p2p.
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i feel incredibly sad and intimidated as a subscriber to this broadband provider, despite it's overrated performance and false advertising, whenever i saw their ads on TV, i felt like committing suicide, why?? whyyyy? whyy the farrkkk they spend so many money advertise and dont fix the fxxing problem...whyyyy tell meeee whyyy
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QUOTE(siaukia @ Oct 24 2006, 10:12 PM)
i feel incredibly sad and intimidated as a subscriber to this broadband provider, despite it's overrated performance and false advertising, whenever i saw their ads on TV, i felt like committing suicide, why?? whyyyy? whyy the farrkkk they spend so many money advertise and dont fix the fxxing problem...whyyyy tell meeee whyyy
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You know, I always wanted to give them a word which translated from chinese.
" Don't wear such a big hat if your head isn't big enough"

As usual, $$ > Quality.
That's what they always doing, since they monopolized it.
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even though i seldom use p2p to download, but i frequently stream online radio and television. and it still LAGS LIKE HELL, even tho i'm on 1mb line.

do try stream tv online and give us a feedback: http://www.channelchooser.com/
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Wow! I don't need astro. biggrin.gif Too bad it lags on my 512kbps connection. sad.gif Hmmm, I bet if I were to stream this everyday to watch. TM Net would say I am abusing their services and a part of the 20% using 80% of bandwidth. It's not even p2p. doh.gif

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lol wat a huge let-down. Was in foreign country all the time using 256kbps speed, highly anticipated for the whooping 1M connection back home. I even wrote down a list of stuff to download and BAM! 5kb/s download rate for p2p programme. doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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lol wat a huge let-down. Was in foreign country all the time using 256kbps speed, highly anticipated for the whooping 1M connection back home. I even wrote down a list of stuff to download and BAM! 5kb/s download rate for p2p programme. doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif
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Lol, well put it this way, it can't really get any worse than it already is, at least for me since I'm lucky to even be connected at all and everything is at 1k hehe
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QUOTE(quintessential @ Oct 24 2006, 10:58 PM)
even though i seldom use p2p to download, but i frequently stream online radio and television. and it still LAGS LIKE HELL, even tho i'm on 1mb line.

do try stream tv online and give us a feedback: http://www.channelchooser.com/
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But , actually TM nut is the BIG head of Malaysia broadband. I mean, everyone of us still using TM nut's line, no matter how we protest, TM nut still cap BT and never announce about this issue or apology officially to the public.

TM nut is really irresponsible to customers most of the time. sad.gif
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I was thinking may redeem n recover in this year ended as TMnut didn't release any official announcement to throttle P2P forever.
If they do so without any official announcement, this is against what morphware had said in this link
http://digg.com/tech_news/Malaysian_ISP_Th...P_Traffic_by_90

We could even sue the TMnut!
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QUOTE(gouhayashi @ Oct 25 2006, 10:56 AM)
I was thinking may redeem n recover in this year ended as TMnut didn't  release any official announcement to throttle P2P forever.
If they do so without any official announcement, this is against what morphware had said in this link
http://digg.com/tech_news/Malaysian_ISP_Th...P_Traffic_by_90

We could even sue the TMnut!
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Just wonder who will go and sue the company??? I think they dont event care so much about it cause they monopoly it.... and they can event tract what you have been doing all this time with the connection.... if you unluck maybe you have been downloading MP3,Movie and so on.... sad you know.... rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(jemmywong @ Oct 25 2006, 11:10 AM)
Just wonder who will go and sue the company??? I think they dont event care so much about it cause they monopoly it.... and they can event tract what you have been doing all this time with the connection.... if you unluck maybe you have been downloading MP3,Movie and so on.... sad you know.... rclxub.gif
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...sounds sad, but we r talking the given bandwidth doesn't apply to what we pay, no point related to the downloaded materials, it's another topic again...we r really sucked by them! vmad.gif
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QUOTE(jemmywong @ Oct 25 2006, 11:10 AM)
Just wonder who will go and sue the company??? I think they dont event care so much about it cause they monopoly it.... and they can event tract what you have been doing all this time with the connection.... if you unluck maybe you have been downloading MP3,Movie and so on.... sad you know.... rclxub.gif
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sue TM = sue government of Malaysia.
r you thinking of revolution ? I actually had asking for consultant from my lawyer regarding BT throttle Issue. Actually, TM got it right to throttle BT because BT is 99.9% violate terms and conditions in the contract. It is nothing to do with the content of download but the usage of BT will engage other users's bandwidth, causing "traffic jam" situation.


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QUOTE(work_tgr @ Oct 25 2006, 11:51 AM)
sue TM =  sue government of Malaysia.
r you thinking of revolution ? I actually had asking for consultant from my lawyer regarding BT throttle Issue.  Actually, TM got it right to throttle BT because BT is 99.9% violate terms and conditions in the contract. It is nothing to do with the content of download but the usage of BT will engage other users's bandwidth, causing "traffic jam" situation.
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AFAIK, the terms didnt mention anything about how much share of international bandwidth are we suppose to have.

All that is there is that it defines us getting 512k dl speed for example. and using BT certainly doesnt make our line run faster than 512k

they also did not define the amount of data we can transfer and so many other thing....

As far as the contract signed goes, we get that 512k bandwidth at best effort. so as long as we're not using more than 512k, we're not violating an terms, isnt it....
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QUOTE(work_tgr @ Oct 25 2006, 11:51 AM)
sue TM =  sue government of Malaysia.
r you thinking of revolution ? I actually had asking for consultant from my lawyer regarding BT throttle Issue.  Actually, TM got it right to throttle BT because BT is 99.9% violate terms and conditions in the contract. It is nothing to do with the content of download but the usage of BT will engage other users's bandwidth, causing "traffic jam" situation.
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But thing is, the hold market share (insert number) of Malaysia. Forgive me for my ignorance but can't we do something like sue them for abusing monopoly or something?

By the way, could anyone, when called by the upper level ask them about p2p throttling,
rmake them admit TMnut does do that and ecord the whole conversation and send it to the media? I'm sure somehow, hopefully, Tmnut will kena kau kau or something, perhaps?

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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Oct 25 2006, 12:30 PM)
But thing is, the hold market share (insert number) of Malaysia. Forgive me for my ignorance but can't we do something like sue them for abusing monopoly or something?
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In europe there's those antitrust law
Microsoft gets alot of pain from them tongue.gif

too bad i dont think our country have any law to prevent monopoly. heck there are so many monopoly companies here, which explains all the bad service we're getting laugh.gif
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for so many complaint ..seem like tmnet still didnt do anything...just all crap...my bt still less then 2k or 0k..arghhh....

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QUOTE(jet_tsen @ Oct 25 2006, 01:47 PM)
for so many complaint ..seem like tmnet still didnt do anything...just all crap...my bt still less then 2k or 0k..arghhh....
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that is just normal with < 10k download speed with international peer. I would disagree with you about "TMnet didn't do anything" because
TMnet had upgraded customers' broadband from 512k to 1M or 1.5M. I will say TMnet's service is BAD and the improvement progress is just TOO SLOW.

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can someone go discuse with tm.really slow la.
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can someone go discuse with tm.really slow la.
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they do what they want to do... vmad.gif
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It's amazing. Here I am uploading to a guy in Brazil at FULL 256 kbps speed. Whereas we can't even download anything thru bittorrent at 256 kbps speed. Last I remember Brazil is a poor and developing country where football is the main way out of poverty while we are steaming forward to developed status by 2020. Looks like we are now heading in the wrong direction. vmad.gif

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QUOTE(work_tgr @ Oct 25 2006, 01:56 PM)
that is just normal with < 10k download speed with international peer. I would disagree with you about "TMnet didn't do anything" because
TMnet had upgraded customers' broadband from 512k to 1M or 1.5M. I will say TMnet's service is BAD and the improvement progress is just TOO SLOW.
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QUOTE(nwk @ Oct 25 2006, 07:15 PM)
you call that pathethic excuse of an upgrade "doing something"? That's nothing! You can't even get 80 percent of those so called upgraded speeds, not with BT & all P2P traffic throttled to high heaven! Let TMnut do something more concrete then some cheap modem sync upgrade like lifting the throttle and increasing their bandwidth, then I will call that "doing something"!!!!
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well .... not that right, actually.
I download 1 file with local peer and can reach 150kb stable ( mine is 512k, and now being upgrade to 1.5M)
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QUOTE(TC_Boy @ Oct 25 2006, 03:41 PM)
It's amazing. Here I am uploading to a guy in Brazil at FULL 256 kbps speed. Whereas we can't even download anything thru bittorrent at 256 kbps speed. Last I remember Brazil is a poor and developing country where football is the main way out of poverty while we are steaming forward to developed status by 2020. Looks like we are now heading in the wrong direction.  vmad.gif
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well .... not that right, actually.
I download 1 file with local peer and can reach 150kb stable ( mine is 512k, and now being upgrade to 1.5M)
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Talk to us again when you can download with that kind of speed from international peers. we are not intrested in local peers and cheap TMnut upgrades!
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what if someday tmnut say they don't wan to give/allow p2p anymore

or bandwith limit ....




****soli ..soli ....mistype ..... P2P**** soli aaa ... blush.gif

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what if someday tmnut say they don't wan to give psp anymore
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QUOTE(nwk @ Oct 25 2006, 07:19 PM)
Talk to us again when you can download with that kind of speed from international peers. we are not intrested in local peers and cheap TMnut upgrades!
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of coarse, not talking about international peers. TM net is throttling it.
I am not at any side. But, we should not ignore this " 512k upgrade to 1.5M" fact -- hope that it will not just stand for temporarily.

All I hope, TM will unthrottle BT by December, 2006.
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QUOTE(work_tgr @ Oct 25 2006, 07:29 PM)
of coarse, not talking about international peers. TM net is throttling it.
I am not at any side. But, we should not ignore this  " 512k upgrade to 1.5M" fact -- hope that it will not just stand for temporarily.

All I hope, TM will unthrottle BT by December, 2006.
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since when did tmnut decided to give everyone a free SONY PSP????!!!!
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I think that was a typo was supposed to be p2p. tongue.gif I wouldn't mind getting a psp together with my TM Net account. biggrin.gif

PSP cost RM1300. I can get a PC already. doh.gif

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QUOTE(TC_Boy @ Oct 25 2006, 07:43 PM)
I think that was a typo was supposed to be p2p.  tongue.gif I wouldn't mind getting a psp together with my TM Net account.  biggrin.gif
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I don't want TM bankrupt .. I will pay extra RM10 for NEW PSP thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(TC_Boy @ Oct 25 2006, 07:43 PM)
I think that was a typo was supposed to be p2p.  tongue.gif I wouldn't mind getting a psp together with my TM Net account.  biggrin.gif
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Yeah, free Sony PSP for signing up a year contract with tmnuts, the number of subscribers will increase exponentially.
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QUOTE(blaxez @ Oct 25 2006, 07:45 PM)
Yeah, free Sony PSP for signing up a year contract with tmnuts, the number of subscribers will increase exponentially.
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YAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif
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since when did tmnut decided to give everyone a free SONY PSP????!!!!
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soli aa ....mistypo ... p2p
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QUOTE(work_tgr @ Oct 25 2006, 07:47 PM)
plus 10 FREE LATEST games !!!

YAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! icon_idea.gif  icon_idea.gif
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What? 10 "P" games is it LOL.

A single original PSP game cost anywhere around RM100+ to RM180ish

OK OK enough of this off topic (one typo leads to all this LOL)

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I dont mind if they impose a download limit, as long as there is another higher up package that (premium package) that doesnt have a download limit.

But i seriously doubt TMNet has yet to implement a bandwidth usage monitoring system per account basis yet. Or else I am sure they would have already introduced it out.
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I doubt that they plan to implement such a thing. It would be easier and better if they just continue to advertise fake "unlimited 0.5/1/2 Mbps" packages, make customers pay full price RM+++.++ , and then complain that the customer actually bothered to use the bandwidth that TMNet oversold and that the customer paid for, and throttle the customer to kingdom come with no intention of giving them the actual bandwidth in the first place.

And who's gonna argue with them? They have a monopoly and we have no voice.
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bloody hell
my BT can never exceed 10kb/s
i kept restarting my pc and modem and still the same
till i read this thread, only i know that TMnut is doing a "good" job
thanks TMnut, it's time for you to rectify your "unlimited downloads" meaning
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i think ive been thorttle too but i think just a few users in this state get throttled coz my fren seems not having problem.man my bt download are below 10kb and i hardly acess a website too argh. kaninei.
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QUOTE(cashboy @ Oct 26 2006, 01:09 PM)
i think ive been thorttle too but i think just a few users in this state get throttled coz my fren seems not having problem.man my bt download are below 10kb and i hardly acess a website too argh. kaninei.
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in fact ,many had been throttled ... only some lucky users still can achieve max download speed. from what I know, penang areas quite ok.
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some areas in ipoh is good as well.....
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well try to achieve the 219.xx and 63.xx ip.the speed is pretty good.
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so now you guys are saying you have been unthrottled or what? Tmnut suddenly so kind and generous to lift the throttling???
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QUOTE(nwk @ Oct 26 2006, 01:38 PM)
so now you guys are saying you have been unthrottled or what? Tmnut suddenly so kind and generous to lift the throttling???
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TM is not fair at this throttle thing.
some areas are not throttle.
I am one of unlucky victim of TM throttle.
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Here's my download performances. (Healthy torrents only)

Movie DVDrip (approx 700MB) = around 100kBps
Drama TVrip (approx 350MB) = around 150kBps
Mp3 Album (approx 90MB) = around 165+kBps

I'm using RM88 package with 1Mbps where they say automatically upgraded to 1.5Mbps. Using bitcomet 0.70. Living in Bayan Baru, Penang (Island of food, rubbish and lubricant river).

My torrent was throttled for the past 8 months, I was getting less then 5kBps.....now no more, but for how long.
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Here's my download performances. (Healthy torrents only)

Movie DVDrip (approx 700MB) = around 100kBps
Drama TVrip (approx 350MB) = around 150kBps
Mp3 Album (approx 90MB) = around 165+kBps

I'm using RM88 package with 1Mbps where they say automatically upgraded to 1.5Mbps. Using bitcomet 0.70. Living in Bayan Baru, Penang (Island of food, rubbish and lubricant river).

My torrent was throttled for the past 8 months, I was getting less then 5kBps.....now no more, but for how long.
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8 months???!! your connection may be bad, that's why you think you are being throttled. anyway your situation now may be temporary because many guys here have found themselves unthrottled only to be throttled again a few days later.
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yeah...it was bad but I think due to the throttling
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dear NWK & everyone :
our country is an Islamic country , n our gov is supporting this Nut ........ sigh ..........
my opinion to every throttled Streamyx user - keep on complain n downgrade , y pay more for something u know u wont get ........ n tell everyone u know not to trust the Nut .........
for TMNut spies , pls tell ur boss to send his staff for Inggeris Kelas n khongpiuter klas ............
Malaysia Boleh .........

my BT connection this afternoon >40kbps
location : Brickfields
maybe i've done right w the port forwarding ?

rarely can achieve this number ,
mostly <10
sometimes MSN n website also affected

can anyone giv guide of port forwarding ? coz i m a nut - nutted by tmnut ........ tq


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QUOTE(CandySquare @ Oct 26 2006, 04:38 PM)
dear NWK & everyone :
our country is an Islamic country , n our gov is supporting this Nut ........ sigh ..........
my opinion to every throttled Streamyx user - keep on complain n downgrade , y pay more for something u know u wont get ........ n tell everyone u know not to trust the Nut .........
for TMNut spies , pls tell ur boss to send his staff for Inggeris Kelas n khongpiuter klas ............
Malaysia Boleh .........

my BT connection this afternoon >40kbps
location : Brickfields
maybe i've done right w the port forwarding ?

rarely can achieve this number ,
mostly <10
sometimes MSN n website also affected

can anyone giv guide of port forwarding ? coz i m a nut - nutted by tmnut ........ tq
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I have no problems with Malaysia being an islamic country. i only have problems with this stupid goverment that does not support an open and free market. this goverment only know how to monopolize this and that. because of this nonesense, tmnut attitude towards it's customers is "one kind" one!

for portforward tips, go to www.portforward.com
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malaysia is not an Islamic country, its a secular state.
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QUOTE(nwk @ Oct 26 2006, 04:46 PM)
I have no problems with Malaysia being an islamic country. i only have problems with this stupid goverment that does not support an open and free market. this goverment only know how to monopolize this and that. because of this nonesense, tmnut attitude towards it's customers is "one kind" one!

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yes i agreed with nwk.. i also have no problem with malaysia being an islamic country.. it's because the govt doesn't support an open market that kill off any competitors.. without them opening up our phone line there will not be any new isp in the near future... a very good example of opening up the market is the air traveling.. just look at the price for traveling after the introduction of airasia..
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lol.....they know only to make $$$$$ for them ownself they don think for the future ....that's y malaysia is always behind biggrin.gif
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" Streamyx has violated the "Internet Access Service Provider (IASP) Sub-Code for the Communications and Multimedia Industry Malaysia" http://tinyurl.com/yh797n

In multiple areas:-
From part 2.
3.5Any changes in policies developed by the Service Providers should also
be communicated to the Consumers as soon as practicable.

(nope didn't tell me about any policy changes)

4.1Service Providers will provide services and products in a responsible
manner, ensuring that the services that they provide to their Customers
meet the service levels as contractually agreed between the Service
Providers and the Customers.
4.2Service Providers shall endeavor to provide consistent and reliable
access to the services.
4.3Service Providers shall give adequate notice to their Customers of any
planned interruptions of service.
4.4Service Providers shall not discriminate unduly between persons or
classes of persons in the provision of their services or any related matters
and shall provide equal access to all Customers.

(All of the above not done and not doing, they are not meeting contract requirements ie "best effort", they are not providing a constant and reliable service, they haven't given any notice of this interruption to my service, and I am being discriminated against as a P2P user.) "

wonder this has been posted b4
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i can't get any remote peers recently...does that means i'm a victim of throttle?
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i can't get any remote peers recently...does that means i'm a victim of throttle?
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yes, you are a victim and you have been victimized by tmnut. another sign that you are being throttled is, you can't connect to the tracker no matter how many times you try. i suggest you first complain to tmnut and if you are not satisfied by their lame excuses then you complain to cfm. also tell all your friends who are getting the same problem like you to complain to tmnut and cfm.
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my internet speed increased!!! tongue.gif rclxm9.gif...after send mail to TMNut CS biggrin.gif
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using speedtest.net from singapore's server
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my internet speed increased!!! tongue.gif rclxm9.gif...after send mail to TMNut CS biggrin.gif
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so what if your modem sync speed is increased? can you download with that same kind of speed using BT? If you can then you can be happy. if not, then there's no reason to be overjoyed because everyone got the same upgrade as you.
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newbie, how many complaints you've shot over to CFM?

i just sent one.
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twice complain le, last week 1 , this week 1. =D
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since the bandwidth throtthling, is the quality of service improved? i mean no blinking, frequent disconnection whatsoever.
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so shud i change my broadband ? jaring offer better package than streamyx tho
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so shud i change my broadband ? jaring offer better package than streamyx tho
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if streamyx is very bad for you and jaring is giving you a better offer and if they are not throttling P2P, I say go for it!

BTW, I am still waiting for tmnut to get back to me after sending my fourth complaint to CFM. if those monkeys don't call me on monday, i am going call CFM again.
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well...here are the details of the package offered by jaring


Items WIRED
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Speed 1Mbps
Monthly Subscription Fee RM79
MY015 Line 1
Modem FREE
E-mail & Dial-up Accounts 1
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Installation Fee RM80 (optional upon request)
Registration Fee RM75
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well...here are the details of the package offered by jaring
Items WIRED
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Speed 1Mbps
Monthly Subscription Fee RM79 
MY015 Line 1
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If I were you, I ask jaring about P2P. You should ask if they have any download restrictions or if they are throttling P2P. If they say they don't do such things and they have no limit on downloads, then go for it!
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how about maxis 3g?
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i thought tat maxis 3g only applied in some areas ? my friend in pj is usin it and he is complainin it is slow
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since the bandwidth throtthling, is the quality of service improved? i mean no blinking, frequent disconnection whatsoever.
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the quality of the service is still the same. the only thing nice about it is the so called "free" upgrade they give you by making your modem sync up to 2MB. Otherwise BT is still throttled to high heaven and other download speeds like HTTP is not consistent as they should be.
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so..does jaring throttles p2p connections too ? how many isp providers are there in malaysia ?
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i tried to call tmnuts today to ask bout this slow download speed...but cannot reach...do u all have the same problem too?
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QUOTE(destiny6 @ Oct 27 2006, 03:29 PM)
i tried to call tmnuts today to ask bout this slow download speed...but cannot reach...do u all have the same problem too?
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my friend, we are all throttled to high heaven. why do you think there is thread pinned at the top dedicated to this stupid throttling? Most of us have complained to tmnut and all we get are stupid answers of denials. so we complain to cfm instead. i suggest you start reading this thread from page 1 to get the full story.
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I heard they have this box installed nationwide. rclxub.gif

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps6151/index.html
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so..this throttling situation is gona get better or worst ?
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It seems TMnet blocks connections to MIRC channels as well. Can anyone confirm? Only after using vpn/proxy that i can access MIRC.
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It seems TMnet blocks connections to MIRC channels as well. Can anyone confirm? Only after using vpn/proxy that i can access MIRC.
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Wow, if this is true then it's shocking! blink.gif
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today lagi worst , BT speed from 50kb/s ... now only 10kb/s !!

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QUOTE(destiny6 @ Oct 27 2006, 12:09 AM)
i can't get any remote peers recently...does that means i'm a victim of throttle?
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Do you use a router? If you do, then you are probably having problems portforwarding.

QUOTE(nairud @ Oct 27 2006, 12:32 PM)
newbie, how many complaints you've shot over to CFM?

i just sent one.
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So far 2. Planning a third. Will wait and see.
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Do you use a router? If you do, then you are probably having problems portforwarding.


yeap...i'm using a router, i did port forwarding already...b4 that i can get remote peers, only recently only get local peers and can't even connect to the trackers...d/l speed was only 0-1 kbps sad.gif ...if i am lucky i might get 2-4kbps sweat.gif haiH...i'm kinda envy some of u guyz got d/l speed around 10kbps cry.gif

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QUOTE(destiny6 @ Oct 27 2006, 11:02 PM)
yeap...i'm using a router, i did port forwarding already...b4 that i can get remote peers, only recently only get local peers and can't even connect to the trackers...d/l speed was only 0-1 kbps  sad.gif  ...if i am lucky i might get 2-4kbps  sweat.gif haiH...i'm kinda envy some of u guyz got d/l speed around 10kbps cry.gif
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Called tmnet and f*** them up. Even though they will do nothing after your complaint, but it is still our right to f*** them for bad service.
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It is very clear that TMnet is playing dirty trick on customers.

They limit our bandwidth usage, particularly our download speeds. But in the same time, they keep giving promotions so that more people are buying the service. The reason they limit our bandwidth is so that they can allocate it for new users.

We pay RM88 per month for 1Mbps connection, not 1Kbps. We deserve to have what we had paid for! 'Best effort is no excuse. They are so dare not only to limit our bandwidth usage, but also 'give' 'our bandwidth' to other people. It's like 'gali lubang tutup lubang'. What the f**k.

If they cannot provide good speed to user, why not just stick with lower speeds(ie: 512K or less) and give reasonable rate to customers? No point trying to provide so-called 'high speed broadband' but in the end getting cursed by customers because of the endless service interruption and poor line quality?

Chee-bye phoo-key TMnut!
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Anybody want cancel their account ? if more user terminate streamyx , Sure TMNUT will takut !.~

I pay 2 account (RM176) /month , yet get only 10-30kb/s speed !! already 2 weeks .. kena tahan liao~
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Anybody want cancel their account ?   if more user terminate streamyx , Sure TMNUT will takut !.~

I pay 2 account (RM176) /month , yet get only 10-30kb/s speed !!  vmad.gif
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if everyone cancel their account, then we will play into tmnut's hands because they will give the bandwidth to new subscribers. I suggest you cancel one account and then complain like hell to tmnut everyday. if that's not enough, call cfm and keep on complaining to them until tmnut decide to surrender to all of us who call cfm. if you are still really feeling pissed after all that complaints submit your grudge to hell girl at www.animax-asia website against michael lai!!! LOL! I know one guy who actually did that and you can read his post there! LOL!!!! laugh.gif

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Called tmnet and f*** them up. Even though they will do nothing after your complaint, but it is still our right to f*** them for bad service.


Love to...but they couldn't be reach at the moment....i submit my complaint 2 cfm which include an attachment of my bittorent d/l speed saying my download speed is way 2 slow even for a 512k package...1-2kbps only sweat.gif
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QUOTE(destiny6 @ Oct 28 2006, 12:33 AM)
Love to...but they couldn't be reach at the moment....i submit my complaint 2 cfm which include an attachment of my bittorent d/l speed saying my download speed is way 2 slow even for a 512k package...1-2kbps only sweat.gif
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If there is no reply to your complaint, I suggest you call CFM's toll free number on Monday. Then you can tell them all about tmnut and their throttling.
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i think if can, we highlight this throttling to the media...that would be an impact for tmnet,

here is a last time news on why or the reason tmnet do p2p throttling

My Webpage
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QUOTE(destiny6 @ Oct 28 2006, 01:14 AM)
i think if can, we highlight this throttling to the media...that would be an impact for tmnet,

here is a last time news on why or the reason tmnet do p2p throttling

My Webpage
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That is very old news and most of us here know that already. It's tmnut cheap excuse for throttling us and we all know that is crap! As for highlighting this to the media, some guys here actually sent out letters to the newspapers but I don't know if the newspapers have printed their letters or not.
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QUOTE(yangxi @ Oct 28 2006, 12:18 AM)
Anybody want cancel their account ?  if more user terminate streamyx , Sure TMNUT will takut !.~

I pay 2 account (RM176) /month , yet get only 10-30kb/s speed !! already 2 weeks .. kena tahan liao~
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RM88 + RM88 ah ?

alamak, Why dont u use RM20 + RM88

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uh.... this morning was trying to download smallville.. was terrible.. 2Kb/s, hardly can connect to peers, doh.gif doh.gif

anyway manage to download off with a direct link at over 160Kb/s, i think my line is 1.5MB now blink.gif

and just to see whether the throttle is still active during this hour.. i tried to download smallville again.. amazingly i got 130Kb/s drool.gif drool.gif

but then i still hate tmnet .. laugh.gif
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so anyone here changed broadband already ?

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TMNET CEO Email cannot masuk: (as of 4.40pm)

Reason:
Your message cannot be delivered to the following recipients:

Recipient address: ceo@ims-ms-daemon
Original address: ceo@tm.net.my
Reason: Over quota
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QUOTE(kemikelx @ Oct 28 2006, 04:48 PM)
TMNET CEO Email cannot masuk: (as of 4.40pm)

Reason:
Your message cannot be delivered to the following recipients:

Recipient address: ceo@ims-ms-daemon
Original address: ceo@tm.net.my
Reason: Over quota
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drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif
CEO mailbox had been jammed by countless e-mail or maybe hacked by somebody drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif
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reading this, I find it hard to miss Malaysia.
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QUOTE(kemikelx @ Oct 28 2006, 04:48 PM)
TMNET CEO Email cannot masuk: (as of 4.40pm)

Reason:
Your message cannot be delivered to the following recipients:

Recipient address: ceo@ims-ms-daemon
Original address: ceo@tm.net.my
Reason: Over quota
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ROFL CEO mailbox also Over quota,we can see there have TONS of streamyx user keep bomb his mailbox. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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this is not surprising me at all.
maybe CEO also don't want to take responsibility.
How sad....
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QUOTE(kemikelx @ Oct 28 2006, 04:48 PM)
TMNET CEO Email cannot masuk: (as of 4.40pm)

Reason:
Your message cannot be delivered to the following recipients:

Recipient address: ceo@ims-ms-daemon
Original address: ceo@tm.net.my
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that stupid poor excuse of an ceo probably decided not to bother reading all our emails! what kind of ceo is this? if the ceo is acting like this, no wonder all the tmnut staff is also acting like baboon! maybe it is time we all complain to MCMC since this stupid ceo don't know how to read emails.

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RM88 + RM88 ah ?

alamak, Why dont u use RM20 + RM88
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I still cannot terminate my account ,because i have IPCAM Surveillance system on my house.

But upload speed worst and worst!! can't even remote login from my shop.! mad.gif
*upload also throttling?

hope TMStupid give us higher 512k , 768k upload pakage .





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change ISP??? what choice do i have? jaring wired is not available in my area..... i juz scare tat jaring=streamyx....LP=PL , LPPL only
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QUOTE(destiny6 @ Oct 28 2006, 08:57 PM)
change ISP??? what choice do i have? jaring wired is not available in my area..... i juz scare tat jaring=streamyx....LP=PL , LPPL only
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Even though I never use Jaring ( same as you, got no other choice); but I had heard lots for others that Jaring = Streamyx . It cap BT usage either. flex.gif
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Jaring runs on the same backbone as TMNet (last I heard) so it's the same thing.

This thread is starting to lose it's focus.
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No wonder why by bt speed will suddenly go to <10kb/s...the tmnut is doing blocking job uhuh!!!!


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QUOTE(weileongz @ Oct 28 2006, 09:07 PM)
No wonder why by bt speed will suddenly go to <10kb/s...the tmnut is doing blocking job uhuh!!!!
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This is actually same as blocking. But, TM use "throttle"/"cap"/"shape" ( many other beautiful words ) to describe its' kindness to control "traffic jam" of broadband. The worst thing is that TM never officially announce this.
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Here's a tip try renaming .torrent to something else & open it with your Torrent Software, does this work ?
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Here's a tip try renaming .torrent to something else & open it with your Torrent Software, does this work ?
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No point
Same thing torrent.

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Ok i will try a project edit a torrent software to read another . file, dont worry i will share if i can, or we can start a chainmail pm
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Ok i will try a project edit a torrent software to read another . file, dont worry i will share if i can, or we can start a chainmail pm
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You really have no idea how softwares work on your PC, do you?

Try renaming your .mp3 to .wav and see what happens?
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I wonder how long do we need to suffer or forever...???
Did the complaints really work? If so, didn't even see any respone from nuts...
Even we know the truth now, they just get excuse n deny from us about the THROTTLE topic...
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QUOTE(gouhayashi @ Oct 28 2006, 10:28 PM)
I wonder how long do we need to suffer or forever...???
Did the complaints really work? If so, didn't even see any respone from nuts...
Even we know the truth now, they just get excuse n deny from us about the THROTTLE topic...
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truth ? nope... we are always behind the truth.

I don't think we will suffer this forever. Since this topic is so HOT nowadays, nut will sure do something in the future, might be a little late.

I am not speaking this on behave of NUT. but, you know, this is malaysia government style --- slow yet not steady.
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hey, how come my customer service representative tells me i'm not throttled? here's my e-mail reply. I bet its another standard template for BT complaints. Here goes:

Date: Oct 27, 2006 9:50 PM <-- LOL, TM support staff have to work overtime, forwarding this lousy worded template, because of you guys! They're losing sleep!!! Hehehe....

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Even teh staff in TM all confusing themselves. Looks like management is not doing a good job! lol... They really think we're idiots, huh?? Blaming our peers for not giving enough speed.
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QUOTE(excit3 @ Oct 28 2006, 10:42 PM)
hey, how come my customer service representative tells me i'm not throttled? here's my e-mail reply. I bet its another standard template for BT complaints.
I got two different version of reply ( totally opposite answers) regarding this BT throttled issue. I will not repeat post it again here ( because I already posted it ... don't remeber which forum).

TMnut never dare to officially explain this issue. chicken up.

no trustworthy at all. licensed lier .

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Make a torrent client which can encrypt the BT traffic. They do this because the not enough traffic. But we have pay for it. Means we can use to do anything as long as is legle and tmnet should provide the service that can do anything. so TMnet should not block it. Hope Wimax will take tmnet down someday. But I think thoes wimax lisence holder will DO NOTHING LIKE REDTONE NATIONCOM AND BLA BLA BLA

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Make a torrent client which can encrypt the BT  traffic. They do this because the not enough traffic. But we have pay for it. Means we can use to do anything as long as is legle. so TM should not block it.
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I had ask software developers regarding this issue. they told me that encryption can't bypass BT throttle. cry.gif
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Any technicial information to introduce how do they throttle?
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lol, if you're looking forward to reverse engineer their mechanism, good luck! I'm sure the european and american leet haxor will have a Utorrent 2.0 which bypass all this throttling BS. Just sit and wait wink.gif
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QUOTE(excit3 @ Oct 28 2006, 11:14 PM)
lol, if you're looking forward to reverse engineer their mechanism, good luck! I'm sure the european and american leet haxor will have a Utorrent 2.0 which bypass all this throttling BS. Just sit and wait wink.gif
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That is if those Americans are also being throttled. Or else, will they develop a new system to help the minority, us Malaysians ?

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we stand together... all ask for thier help... then they release "Utorrent - TMnet edition" hahaha
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QUOTE(samuel_lai @ Oct 28 2006, 11:19 PM)
we stand together... all ask for thier help... then they release "Utorrent - TMnet edition" hahaha
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I remembered checking Utorrent few weeks ago when TMnet started throttling our connections. Those people think we don't know how to use their Protocol Encrytion or don't know how to port-forward correctly. ohmy.gif


I am not sure if they are aware of our full scale of our situation, currently.
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Good point, IntegraTypeR. I'm sure other nations like Australia and other bandwidth-deprived P2P-craving nations will follow suit to employ technology similar to TM to cap BT downloads.

So in short, yes, uTorrent 2.0 WILL include a fix!

[fingers crossed]

It would be nice to have TMnet edition of uTorrent and BitComet wink.gif lol...
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damn.. if cannot use torrent THEN PUT "BITTORRENT IS THROTTED" ON EVERY THIER APPLICATION FORM OR PROMOTION LAH. WHAT UNLIMITED RM88 PACKAGE 1mbps. Like that is fool customer leh... P2P is very common in internet and it's legle.
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Hmmmm i still can connect to other countries but in a very slow pace...
any idea of bypassing it ?? sad.gif





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sam, my arguments in this thread proof that 99.99% of P2P traffic (BT specifically) are illegal. There's no justification!

I even factored in IPTV and game patches that gets distributed via P2P (BT)... and the number is still 99.99% illegal.
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QUOTE(lindows @ Oct 28 2006, 11:29 PM)
Hmmmm i still can connect to other countries but in a very slow pace...
any idea of bypassing it ??  sad.gif
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Hey lindows,

I got a working theory on this issue:

>> Rapidshare limiting model

Could be that TM has placed BT traffic at the lowest possible priority. So you can still connect to them, but you'll be wasting your time as the peers are all SLOW and you'll use up a slot, affecting your overall connection (due to Max TCP limit in Windows XP)

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I heard that the torrent throttling have been lifted in some areas. I have friends in Ampang and Bangsar downloading beyond 100kb...and I'm still at 10kb sweat.gif
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Usually these brief periods of "fast speeds" are temporary and short lived. Its either your friend has connected with local peers or... one of the fortunate ones who got unthrottled earlier than teh rest of Malaysia. Is he on the 2mbit plan? Those people could have been given more priority as they're paying RM 188 currently.

Erm... TM is scheduled to fully unthrottle BT in Dec / January and implement bandwidth caps at the same time.

Refer to >> Rapidshare Limiting model
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I wonder how long do we need to suffer or forever...???
Did the complaints really work? If so, didn't even see any respone from nuts...
Even we know the truth now, they just get excuse n deny from us about the THROTTLE topic...
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if you complain to tmnut, of course you won't get any response from them. they will just tell you that you are not being throttled blah blah blah. they will only start to tell you the truth when you complain to consumer organizations like cfm.

as for how long we are gonna suffer, tmnut says by the end of this year. of course anything tmnut says can't be taken seriously or trusted. they could be saying that to make us happy. that's why i keep telling you guys to complain, complain and complain. don't give up because if you do, michael lai and the nut will be the ones laughing all the way to the bank.

btw the whole world knows about the nut's unfair throttling now. our friend soulxtc has told our story in his website at www.zeropaid.com.
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QUOTE(lindows @ Oct 28 2006, 11:29 PM)
Hmmmm i still can connect to other countries but in a very slow pace...
any idea of bypassing it ??  sad.gif
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the only way you can bypass it is by using vpn or ssh services. there are a lot of these services in the net. the only downside is they are not free and you have to use a credit card to pay for the services. but at least you bypass this stupid tmnut throttling.

there is a "free" way to bypass it. you can use proxies to bypass but those servers don't last for long and you will have to keep on changing servers all the time.

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QUOTE(young_soul @ Oct 28 2006, 11:44 PM)
I heard that the torrent throttling have been lifted in some areas. I have friends in Ampang and Bangsar downloading beyond 100kb...and I'm still at 10kb sweat.gif
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the throttling has not been lifted. it is only temporary because tmnut is fine tuning their shaping hardware. your friends will probably be throttled sooner or later.
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QUOTE(IntegraTypeR @ Oct 28 2006, 11:21 PM)
I remembered checking Utorrent few weeks ago when TMnet started throttling our connections. Those people think we don't know how to use their Protocol Encrytion or don't know how to port-forward correctly.  ohmy.gif
I am not sure if they are aware of our full scale of our situation, currently.
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actually those guys at utorrent forum said that tmnut was shaping based on p2p packet patterns or something like that. they also said they can't do anything unless they rewrite the source code of the bittorrent client to change the way p2p data is sent on the net.

they are aware of our situation. there is an ISP called Rogers in Canada and that ISP is doing the exact same kind of throttling like tmnut. when the situation in the states and canada become as bad as us over here, then they will probably rewrite their BT clients to bypass this kind of shaping. when that happens we will get our speeds back and tmnut can kiss their brand new shaping hardware goodbye!!!
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QUOTE(nwk @ Oct 29 2006, 01:41 AM)
actually those guys at utorrent forum said that tmnut was shaping based on p2p packet patterns or something like that. they also said they can't do anything unless they rewrite the source code of the bittorrent client to change the way p2p data is sent on the net.

they are aware of our situation. there is an ISP called Rogers in Canada and that ISP is doing the exact same kind of throttling like tmnut. when the situation in the states and canada become as bad as us over here, then they will probably rewrite their BT clients to bypass this kind of shaping. when that happens we will get our speeds back and tmnut can kiss their brand new shaping hardware goodbye!!!
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A big AMEN and HALLELUJAH to that! Can't wait to see the look on the CEO's face as their 4-6 month old shaping / throttling hardware becomes rubbish! LOL!

Hope they've bought insurance for "lack of ability to perform services as contracted" !!! hee hee....
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Michael Lai.... would you try dying for once?
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Guys, I am on 1Mb package.

I only just realize this throtling thing cause I haven't really check up on LYN. No wonder I don't get any dl speed like before and I thought it was seeds problem.

So let me tell you what I am going to do when I can take time off to go to TM.

I am going to DOWNGRADE to 512Kb and I don't care whether TM allow or not.
Once I serve them the note personally at the help desk , I will pay the 512 rate.

A while back ,I held back payment of about rm250( i forgot the exact amount) for a year because they charge me extra rm15.
In between they sent me some s* email and I respond back.
Finally they agree the mistake and I pay them the correct amount.

On the legal side, it state " best effort " on the contract but throthling
definitely is not on the "best effort" side.Its on purpose

So stop whining ,etc and downgrade

( And to think I took so much effort to upgrade less than a year ago and its a long story. Basically I have to discontinue my rm66/512 and apply again to get the 77/1Mb. They won't allow straight upgrade cause
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i worse here, after apply streamyx 7month then i know my is 512kb, i apply 1m user..a lot of ppl said can grand back, i busy man in work, like that cheat me,i also can do anything, cos in malaysia i need use net to connect each other friends to do job. mmm.. ntg to said.... doh.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(uNeVErwaLkaloNe @ Oct 19 2006, 12:11 PM)
i already downgrade yesterday, i'm not gonna wait them to add new bandwidth while paying RM88 permonth for surfing and chatting
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Hei , that is fast.
Didn't know anyone could do it faster than me.

I will be downgrading it when I can find time to go to the help desk.

Hope everyone does the same
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more ppl downgrading will sure send some msg to them....i'm already on 512k so there's no downgrading
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Oct 29 2006, 05:44 PM)
We need Jigoku Shoujo...

Michael Lai.... would you try dying for once?
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QUOTE(rainmankl @ Oct 29 2006, 07:13 PM)
Guys, I am on 1Mb package.

I only just realize this throtling thing cause I haven't  really check up on LYN. No wonder I don't get any dl speed like before and I thought it was seeds problem.

So let me tell you what I am going to do when I can take time off to go to TM.

I am going to DOWNGRADE to 512Kb and I don't care whether TM allow or not.
Once I serve them the note personally at the help desk , I will pay the 512 rate.

A while back ,I held back payment of about rm250( i forgot the exact amount) for a year because they charge me extra rm15.
In between they sent me some s* email and I respond back.
Finally they agree the mistake and I pay them the correct amount.

On the legal side, it state " best effort " on the contract but throthling
definitely is not on the  "best effort" side.Its on purpose

So stop whining ,etc and downgrade

( And to think I took so much effort to upgrade less than a year ago and its a long story. Basically I have to discontinue my rm66/512 and apply again to get the 77/1Mb. They won't allow straight upgrade cause
I am old customer.Stupid a**)
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instead of downgrading first, why don't you try to complain to cfm? Many of us here have already complained to cfm to put pressure on tmnut. so i think you should do the same. if after that you are still not happy, then go to their office, thump your fist at their desk and downgrade!!!!
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Maybe you could just pay "half" payment at every month , just to keep your payment "live" , you know what I mean.
complaints ...etc only wasting your time. let by gone be by gone ...
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QUOTE(work_tgr @ Oct 29 2006, 09:39 PM)
Maybe you could just pay "half" payment at every month , just to keep your payment "live" , you know what I mean.
complaints ...etc only wasting your time. let by gone be by gone ...
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complaints wasting time? you think you pay them half your bill they are going to feel threatened? They will just laugh at your face and cut off your connection for paying late all the time. If you have any better ideas then that one, let's hear it because that is the lamest thing you can do to tmnut.

we are not going to let bygones be bygones because they are cheating all of us by not giving us the speed we paid for! it is guys like you who think complaints are a waste of time that encourages corrupt companies like tmnut to keep on cheating consumers of their hard earned money. vmad.gif
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QUOTE(nwk @ Oct 30 2006, 01:33 AM)
complaints wasting time? you think you pay them half your bill they are going to feel threatened? They will just laugh at your face and cut off your connection for paying late all the time. If you have any better ideas then that one, let's hear it because that is the lamest thing you can do to tmnut.

we are not going to let bygones be bygones because they are cheating all of us by not giving us the speed we paid for! it is guys like you who think complaints are a waste of time that encourages corrupt companies like tmnut to keep on cheating consumers of their hard earned money.  vmad.gif
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please show me a GOOD FEEDBACK RESULT due to your GOOD complaints.
I was making complaints to TM, since the first day I applied streamyx. After so many years of "hardwork", I don't think complaints could make any changes. TM still cheat on us.

payment will still pay on time but just halfly paid. TM will not cut your line for this reason...can tell TMnut that you are not sure how much to pay ( since billl adjustment have not been done yet)

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QUOTE(work_tgr @ Oct 30 2006, 07:06 AM)
please show me a GOOD FEEDBACK RESULT  due to your GOOD complaints.
I was making complaints to TM, since the first day I applied streamyx. After so many years of "hardwork", I don't think complaints could make any changes. TM still cheat on us.

payment will still pay on time but just halfly paid. TM will not cut your line for this reason...can tell TMnut that you are not sure how much to pay ( since billl adjustment have not been done yet)
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you want proof that complaints give results? did you read page 1 or not? there is my proof. i complained until they admit to my face they are throttling p2p. what did you do? give up? stop payment? did tmnut suddenly break down and cry because you only pay them half? they are just going to use that as an excuse to cut your connection and sue you if they think you are being funny with them.
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what ...?? that proof can bring any chances to our BT throttled ?? until now TM still sucking customers' money and never officially admit this.

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Im not sure if my bt is throttled o not but the current speed is kinda damn good ...

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QUOTE(Cloudx @ Oct 30 2006, 11:01 AM)
Im not sure if my bt is throttled o not but the current speed is kinda damn good ...

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QUOTE(Cloudx @ Oct 30 2006, 11:01 AM)
Im not sure if my bt is throttled o not but the current speed is kinda damn good ...

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QUOTE(TC_Boy @ Oct 30 2006, 11:17 AM)
Wah! Download 155KBps Upload 5KBps. This is what I call a leecher!  mad.gif
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but.. you can't blame him. because I myself set the upload to unlimited, yet sometimes only can upload to ~10k ... dunno why ??
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QUOTE(TC_Boy @ Oct 30 2006, 11:17 AM)
Wah! Download 155KBps Upload 5KBps. This is what I call a leecher!  mad.gif
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Hehe this is the first time i get those speed... normally the speed wont even go over 20kbs vmad.gif

Too bad now the speed had gone back to 10kbs cry.gif after my modem disconnect
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i found this post on www.dslreports.com and this should clear up the issue on why some guys are not throttled at the moment.

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TMNet DOES NOT block BitTorrent ports, instead it put all the packets to LOW PRIORITY, and at times the packet can drop (if the delay too long) thus causing you getting low speed on BT.

It uses hardware based Traffic Shapper to do this, and intelligent enough to know whether it is P2P packets or streamyx packets. Note that it only put low priority on P2P packets, and HTTP & Streaming still get normal priority.

Why some ppl experiencing this while others dont?
That is because they have not implement this plantwide (due to cost factor). Maybe some of you get impacted by this, irregardless of 218 or 219 or 60 class IP.

For those who shared the same gateway, but some facing slowdown on BT while others dont, this is most probably users which has FULL SPEED is peering with other TM NET users. That is the reason you still get full speed.

Note all the information ABOVE is not provided by TM Net. It is based on feedback/report that I've read/heard/discuss
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QUOTE(work_tgr @ Oct 30 2006, 10:08 AM)
what ...?? that proof can bring any chances to our BT throttled ?? until now TM still sucking customers' money and never officially admit this.
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QUOTE(nwk @ Oct 30 2006, 10:04 AM)
i complained until they admit to my face they are throttling p2p.


a bit off topic: something is wrong with this sentence .. maybe english grammar tongue.gif
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ya .. TMnet admit to "your face" only. why TM never officially admit this to all streamyx users' faces ?? maybe your complaits are not enough powerful. biggrin.gif

ok .. I wouldn't ague with you anymore. play nice. after all, we are hoping TM to unthrottle BT, aren't we ??
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How long tmnut will keep this bt shaping?
tmtnut should give official writing to msian that they dont support bt and put in their advertisement.
very pity to new user if their intention subcribing streamyx just to bt.

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About the dslreport, the time is now 12:10pm and I'm still getting good speeds on my torrent 10-30kBps with 0 local peers. Most of the peers are uploading at less than 1kBps while a few are uploading up to 10kBps. I have pinged those high speed peers and they have very low latency while others (very slow) have high latency. The peers are located in Germany, USA and Netherlands. Meanwhile, I have noticed that my google problem have also disappeared. I think TM Net did something to my DSLAM.

So the report has some errors unless they really decided to remove the traffic shaping appliance because it is needed elsewhere with higher traffic or suffered some kind of malfunction from heat or humidity.

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I am not sure whether is only my place facing a streamyx network problem?

My streamyx keep on disconnected for the entire last week! Is this anything to do with they try to throttling our P2P?

Just like yesterday, almost the entire day I was unable to connect to internet, only able to connect for few minutes then disconnect for few hours, and came back few minutes and then disconnected again!!!

I live in Cheras, and one of my friend staying same area as me also have this problem... They are cheatting our money!!!

Anyone have the same experience or anyone know what is happening?
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juz hired some thief go steal the hardware n change it for money themselve biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(epul @ Oct 30 2006, 12:12 PM)
How long tmnut will keep this bt shaping?
tmtnut should give official writing to msian that they dont support bt and put in their advertisement.
very pity to new user if their intention subcribing streamyx just to bt.
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tmnut never admitted to p2p throttling officially and will only admit when guys like me complain to them hard enough. i also pity the new users who subscribe to tmnut for BT only to find out that they are throttled to high heaven. as for when it will end, tmnut never gave any official date or guarantee
us that they will stop throttling once they get more bandwidth. only god knows if they have any intention to keep their promises.
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QUOTE(epul @ Oct 30 2006, 12:12 PM)
How long tmnut will keep this bt shaping?


Refer to the #1 post by thread starter.

QUOTE(nwk @ Oct 17 2006, 04:52 PM)
they are aware of the situation and our speeds should return once TMnut add in more bandwidth by the end of the year. He says we have to bear with the slow speeds until TMnut acquires more bandwidth.
QUOTE(epul @ Oct 30 2006, 12:12 PM)
tmtnut should give official writing to msian that they dont support bt and put in their advertisement.

I hope TM will officially announce this.

QUOTE(epul @ Oct 30 2006, 12:12 PM)
very pity to new user if their intention subcribing streamyx just to bt.

Somebody told me that government force TM to make the promotions. blush.gif
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I hope TM will officially announce this.
Somebody told me that government force TM to make the promotions. blush.gif
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QUOTE(Amras of Nargothrond @ Oct 30 2006, 12:21 PM)
I am not sure whether is only my place facing a streamyx network problem?

My streamyx keep on disconnected for the entire last week! Is this anything to do with they try to throttling our P2P?

Just like yesterday, almost the entire day I was unable to connect to internet, only able to connect for few minutes then disconnect for few hours, and came back few minutes and then disconnected again!!!

I live in Cheras, and one of my friend staying same area as me also have this problem... They are cheatting our money!!!

Anyone have the same experience or anyone know what is happening?
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tmnut traffic shaping hardware could be interfering with your connection. call tmnut CS and tell them to send a technician to your house to check the problem. there is a thread here that has many users with the same problem as you.
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tmnut traffic shaping hardware could be interfering with your connection. call tmnut CS and tell them to send a technician to your house to check the problem. there is a thread here that has many users with the same problem as you.
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Yes, I also faced streamyx problems right before I was throttled! They have to mess with the system to install the traffic shaper hence the connection problems.
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QUOTE(nwk @ Oct 17 2006, 05:52 PM)
for those who of you who still think tmnut don't throttle our BT speeds, this will put an end to all your doubts. I just spoke to a guy from TMnut CEO's office and he confirmed they are throttling all P2P traffic 24 hours everyday. He admitted to me that they are doing this because they are running out of bandwidth and also because of Lim Keng Yaek ordering them to improve their service due to a lot of people complaining to him about slow browsing speeds. He said they are aware of the situation and our speeds should return once TMnut add in more bandwidth by the end of the year. He says we have to bear with the slow speeds until TMnut acquires more bandwidth.

In response, I asked to pass some of my suggestions to their management. I suggested that TMnut don't throttle 24 hours a day because nobody is going to surf & chat 24 hours everyday and please have some consideration for P2P users like me who pay RM99 a month for the speed. I asked if TMnut can lift the throttle after midnight and give us our speed until 12 Noon. He said he understand because he also use P2P and it isn't fair to customers like me. Then I said why should I pay RM99 a month just to get slow dial-up speed? I might as well switch back to TMnet 1515 dial-up service if I wanted to surf & chat. I told him, if you want to be fair to all users then don't throttle 24 hours a day and lift the restrictions after midnight so guys like me can get what we are paying for. My last suggestion to him was to put up an official annoucement on TMnut's website so all of us can finally get the true story from TMnut and not waste our time speculating about throttling and waste our money calling their stupid CS all the time.

At the end he agreed to pass on all my comments and suggestions to TMnut's management and CEO. You guys are probably wondering why this Tmnut guy suddenly admit to me about P2P throttling? That's because I complained to CFM not once but twice about my slow speeds and on the second time they finally admitted they are indeed throttling all P2P traffic 24 hours everyday. I suggest all of you complain to CFM if you are not satisfied with the standard answer given to you by TMnut's CS staff.
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very nice of you to do that....thanks thumbup.gif
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very nice of you to do that....thanks thumbup.gif
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I found this in StarBiz, 6 March 2006.

Title: TM Net promoting broadband lifestyle
By Yvonne Tan yvonne@thestar.com.my

INTERNET service provider TM Net Sdn Bhd wants to get this message across to Malaysians: broadband is not merely about surfing the internet and e-mailing; it can be, in fact, a lifestyle.

Chief Executive Officer Michael Lai said when it came to broadband usage, Malaysia was at the 'middle tier' compared with other countries in Asia.

"Countries such as Hong Kong and Singapore, with their many high-rise buildings, allow for the installation of a single pipe to service many broadband customers at a time, unlike Malaysia where many people live on landed property.

"For Malaysians to move to broadband, there has to be something very compelling about it. Therefore, improving on the communication area of the broadband experience is important," he told StarBiz in an interview.

"When I talk about communication, I am referring to things such as using a video call. Many people use some sort of broadband now, but how many are actually making use of something as simple as video calls?

"It is something close to being free of charge, but many people still do not know how to use it," he said.

One could got through messenger services such as those provided by MSN and Yahoo! to conduct a video call, Lai noted.

"I think a lot of people feel broadband is only for e-mailing, surfing and downloading stuff from the internet - they have yet to truly realise its full potential," he said.


Then the article continues on about video calls, webcams, internet penetration, IPTV and etc. I'm too tired to type more.

What I'm thinking is, TM Net is messing up my P2P lifestyle so I can have a video call lifestyle instead? I wonder, are your friends gonna be in front of a webcam when you make that video call? Nope. They'll be out somewhere relying on their handphone for communications while they eat, drink, shop, work and play.

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michael lai only know how to talk kok like lim keng yeak. the ceo don't know about broadband and the minister don't know anything about internet. when you put these 2 imbeciles together, the internet industry in malaysia goes down the toilet and malaysia will become like iran where the baboon leader bans broadband.
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QUOTE(nwk @ Oct 31 2006, 09:34 AM)
michael lai only know how to talk kok like lim keng yeak. the ceo don't know about broadband and the minister don't know anything about internet. when you put these 2 imbeciles together, the internet industry in malaysia goes down the toilet and malaysia will become like iran where the baboon leader bans broadband.
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your statements on IRAN leader sounds too harsh and misplaced, and moderator, u guys here?
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scarred, please forgive nwk. this is his/her style to express anger.
yes ... really too harsh and misplaced.
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your statements on IRAN leader sounds too harsh and misplaced, and moderator, u guys here?
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I think broadband service is just a very fundamental or basic thing for a developed country. If TMnut failed to provide a good broadband service, TMnut is better to pass this "fundamental & basic" work to other pontential ISP.
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the only problem about passing the job to another ISP is that the goverment supports tmnut by giving them the monopoly over the business. if goverment takes away the monopoly then other ISP even foreign ones can come in and make tmnut bankrupt.
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QUOTE(nwk @ Oct 31 2006, 09:48 AM)
what? the truth is too harsh for you to bear?
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It's your action that is too harsh, not the truth.

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It's your action that is too harsh, not the truth.
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spoken like a true defender of the tmnut universe.
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spoken like a true defender of the tmnut universe.
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maybe "scarred" one of Micheal Lai assistant biggrin.gif
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Ahmadinejad is religious nutjob trying to keep Iran in the dark ages by halting the flow of globalisation any way he can. I don't care if you agree with his policies or not, if you're anti US or pro Israel, anybody trying to hold back the inevitable march of progress is an idiot in my eyes.

Why all the hate for Lim Keng Yaik though? He's trying at least?
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"I think a lot of people feel broadband is only for e-mailing, surfing and downloading stuff from the internet - they have yet to truly realise its full potential," he said.

bt people do realise the full potential of bb via p2p application
but tmnut shaping, throttling and capped the full potential

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aiyoh, world is nvr enough hmm?
try to appreciate, and you'll be more relaxed.

ppl don't just realised, they overuse the opportunity(without knowing it). Plus, TMNet wrongly forecast the network expansion, and now, we are stranded with capacity issues...ermm, who to blame? of course the ISP, but please, those sarcastics comments..it will nvr help!

I'm a bt'ers myself, so i know how does it feel to be throttled.

yeahyeah, one 'defensive' word, and here i am called as a spy??? defender?? y dun we have open discussion?

@almaty, i'm not defending nijad here...but do u wanna see this thread going off track, being threaded by that sort of replies? ranting here n there.
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QUOTE(foogray @ Oct 31 2006, 10:45 AM)
Ahmadinejad is religious nutjob trying to keep Iran in the dark ages by halting the flow of globalisation any way he can. I don't care if you agree with his policies or not, if you're anti US or pro Israel, anybody trying to hold back the inevitable march of progress is an idiot in my eyes.

Why all the hate for Lim Keng Yaik though? He's trying at least?
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why the hate for lim keng yaek you ask? because he refuses to take away the monopoly from tmnut and open up the market to all competitors. he lets tm controls the last mile connection for our phone lines so tmnut gets all the internet business. that's why we all hate lim keng yaek.
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Go'ment's ardy gave out 100+ ASP licenses...but these small companies don't have big capitals to run the business...
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wah... my BT can connect to inter peers from 10pm until now.
MAX speed of 166kb/s
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QUOTE(Suk @ Oct 31 2006, 11:03 AM)
wah... my BT can connect to inter peers from 10pm until now.
MAX speed of 166kb/s
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haiya, Suk. enough of your "show off" time. I had seen too many of your similar "show off" post. tongue.gif biggrin.gif
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wah... my BT can connect to inter peers from 10pm until now.
MAX speed of 166kb/s
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Wrong thread-lah
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i just called CFM regarding my complaint to tmnut. i have waited for more then a week for tmnut to respond to my complaint and there has been no contact from them whatsoever. CFM told me that they are still waiting for tmnut to update them about my complaints. it looks like those monkeys at tmnut are either sleeping on the job or they are ignoring CFM after getting many complaints coming from all of us. Anyway, CFM told me to call them back again if those idiots at tmnut don't contact me in a few days about my complaint.

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QUOTE(nwk @ Oct 31 2006, 11:27 AM)
i just called CFM regarding my complaint to tmnut. i have waited for more then a week for tmnut to respond to my complaint and there has been no contact from them whatsoever. CFM told me that they are still waiting for tmnut to update them about my complaints. it looks like those monkeys at tmnut are either sleeping on the job or they are ignoring CFM after getting many complaints coming from all of us. Anyway, CFM told me to call them back again if those idiots at tmnut don't contact me in a few days about my complaint.
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tmnuts r very good at ignoring people complaints one.. so i'm not surprise at all.. vmad.gif
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QUOTE(Amika @ Oct 31 2006, 11:30 AM)
tmnuts r very good at ignoring people complaints one..  so i'm not surprise at all..  vmad.gif
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Did you know they outsourced their customer service to another company? Then the TM Net staff all protest outside TM Net office in cyberjaya because they lost their jobs.
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good then.. served them right.. icon_idea.gif

they can't even take care of their own employees so we their customers will be treated worst lah... shakehead.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(nwk @ Oct 31 2006, 11:27 AM)
i just called CFM regarding my complaint to tmnut. i have waited for more then a week for tmnut to respond to my complaint and there has been no contact from them whatsoever. CFM told me that they are still waiting for tmnut to update them about my complaints. it looks like those monkeys at tmnut are either sleeping on the job or they are ignoring CFM after getting many complaints coming from all of us. Anyway, CFM told me to call them back again if those idiots at tmnut don't contact me in a few days about my complaint.
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I will stay on ur side for the time goes, FIGHT for our customer right!
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I will stay on ur side for the time goes, FIGHT for our customer right!
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thanks for your support!
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I suggest you guy should also query them about not implementing this P2P throttling fairly nationwide.It saddens me when my neighbours are boasting about how fast their Home66 packages are with uncapped P2P download speeds when my RM88 Home package can't even get past 5kB/s!

Ask that f%r#*r CEO what the h#*& is he doing sitting on his b**t smoking crack over his office.We demand an explanation. Why some subscribers are entitled to special treatment when they pay even less?
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I suggest you guy should also query them about not implementing this P2P throttling fairly nationwide.It saddens me when my neighbours are boasting about how fast their Home66 packages are with uncapped P2P download speeds when my RM88 Home package can't even get past 5kB/s!

Ask that f%r#*r CEO what the h#*& is he doing sitting on his b**t smoking crack over his office.We demand an explanation. Why some subscribers are entitled to special treatment when they pay even less?
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i have already asked through cfm, but cfm says tmnut didn't update them about the situation yet. so i will wait until the end of the week before i complain to cfm again. i don't bother to email the ceo anymore because he never replies back to me and i don't want to waste my time talking to the robots at tmnut's customer service either.

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i have already asked through cfm, but cfm says tmnut didn't update them about the situation yet. so i will wait until the end of the week before i complain to cfm again. i don't bother to email the ceo anymore because he never replies back to me and i don't want to waste my time talking to the robots at tmnut's customer service either.
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Must be the act of cronies and filthy corrupted people working at TMnet then.It seems sad but true is still going till today....

Those Streamyx techs are exploiting this situation to charge undertable money to change people's port.Last year and before you heard of people saying that they could get uncapped lines by paying some extra amount of money to the installer?Now they case have changed...if you want to have your phone line hooked up to some nice port with nice ip ranges you will need to do more than just making a call up and complain.Fast way is..arrange it with your local Streamyx representitive and tell him what u want of course with some extra duit kopi.He/She'll then do the sweet talking with the Tmnet installer in the exchange.
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QUOTE(tirumisu @ Nov 1 2006, 04:18 PM)
Must be the act of cronies and filthy corrupted people working at TMnet then.It seems sad but true is still going till today....

Those Streamyx techs are exploiting this situation to charge undertable money to change people's port.Last year and before you heard of people saying that they could get uncapped lines by paying some extra amount of money to the installer?Now they case have changed...if you want to have your phone line hooked up to some nice port with nice ip ranges you will need to do more than just making a call up and complain.Fast way is..arrange it with your local Streamyx representitive and tell him what u want of course with some extra duit kopi.He/She'll then do the sweet talking with the Tmnet installer in the exchange.
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can anyone else confirm this story. is it true that tmnut and their installers are all a bunch of corrupted buggers who will "fix" your connection or even unthrottle you for extra money under the table?
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QUOTE(nwk @ Nov 1 2006, 04:36 PM)
can anyone else confirm this story. is it true that tmnut and their installers are all a bunch of corrupted buggers who will "fix" your connection or even unthrottle you for extra money under the table?
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As a whole problably not. But yes there will always be a tiny percentage who spoils tmnuts image.
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QUOTE(nwk @ Nov 1 2006, 04:36 PM)
can anyone else confirm this story. is it true that tmnut and their installers are all a bunch of corrupted buggers who will "fix" your connection or even unthrottle you for extra money under the table?
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Everyone knows their 1-300 is a pure waste of time.When this Streamyx started, you can always call up your local tech directly on his handphone though he'll sometimes not answer you unless he knows you well.But today the only way you can get to them is through your local resellers who seems to know their names and direct contacts *surprisingly if you willing to show them that you're interested.Hard to earn money mah in this country.It's good u get to know more contacts. icon_rolleyes.gif
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I don't know about you all but I'm going to d/l porn 24/7 just to use the bandwidth since my BT is useless now. At least I get something for my monthly bills... vmad.gif
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QUOTE(tirumisu @ Nov 1 2006, 04:42 PM)
Everyone knows their 1-300 is a pure waste of time.When this Streamyx started, you can always call up your local tech directly on his handphone though he'll sometimes not answer you unless he knows you well.But today the only way you can get to them is through your local resellers who seems to know their names and direct contacts *surprisingly if you willing to show them that you're interested.Hard to earn money mah in this country.It's good u get to know more contacts. icon_rolleyes.gif
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do you mind telling me any resellers in PJ that can offer this "service" you are talking about? PM me if you do. I rather pay this guys then waste my time with tmnut to get rid of the throttling.
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It just makes sense making money through exploitation on the system's weaknesses is a norm here.You go to the fruit shop you'll see nice ones of the same type of fruit that you're looking for are often set aside which are sold for higher price.The regular ones are put in front of you. If you have extra to spare good if you don't just take it or leave it.

Same goes for nice ports available at exchanges.You get to choose when you pay more if not just take it as it is.When you pay,"tak ade: also become "ada" or "you mau yang mana satu?


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QUOTE(nwk @ Nov 1 2006, 04:55 PM)
do you mind telling me any resellers in PJ that can offer this "service" you are talking about? PM me if you do. I rather pay this guys then waste my time with tmnut to get rid of the throttling.
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Just walk to some computer shop which is a TMnet Streamyx agent and talk to the boss about your current situation.If he "finds" that you're interested, he'll make some suggestion.I can't guarantee that all of them do but it's up to your "cari makan" skills that you will get him to open his mouth.
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QUOTE(todak @ Nov 1 2006, 04:49 PM)
I don't know about you all but I'm going to d/l porn 24/7 just to use the bandwidth since my BT is useless now. At least I get something for my monthly bills... vmad.gif
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QUOTE(nwk @ Nov 1 2006, 04:55 PM)
do you mind telling me any resellers in PJ that can offer this "service" you are talking about? PM me if you do. I rather pay this guys then waste my time with tmnut to get rid of the throttling.
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If gotsuch special service, these consultant would have advertise here long time ago. considering P2P is so important to some people
also if their service works, 100% TMNET GUILTY AS CHARGED.
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so , will tmnut stop this throttling end of this year ? what you guys think ? any comment ? i dont think tmnet will stop , then how .......no BT , no life....


btw , when use http , 156kbps (i like icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif )

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no idea.... i don't think they'll stop throttling p2p

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TM is now throttling BT and for sure there is no guarantee to unthrottle it in the future. TM might throttle and unthrottle BT from time to time. In another word, TM's service is getter worse and worse.
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Hello,
everyone I have a problem.
Why my line when the time after around 5pm, the dsl light of my modem will blink and the SNR margin for downstream are less than 9, this alway happen at night until the morning. When at the 9am to 5pm, the dsl light normally not blink. but the P2P still like throttle, only have the speed less than 10kb.

After when i throttle P2P by the tm, this problem are alway happen.
Can any occur this problem so?

Any idea to solve it?
The phone line cable are arealdy change to new. Are that also effect by the modem?
My modem brand are Prolink 9000p and aztech 305eu, both are use more than 3 years.
Will this modem are outdate to support the dsl line?

Can any one give some idea for solve the problem.
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Everyone knows their 1-300 is a pure waste of time.When this Streamyx started, you can always call up your local tech directly on his handphone though he'll sometimes not answer you unless he knows you well.But today the only way you can get to them is through your local resellers who seems to know their names and direct contacts *surprisingly if you willing to show them that you're interested.Hard to earn money mah in this country.It's good u get to know more contacts.


Hello,
are this available and have any one know which resellers can find in Ipoh.
I wish to fast solve the P2P problem and can get back the speed
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Hello,
everyone I have a problem.
Why my line when the time after around 5pm, the dsl light of my modem will blink and the SNR margin for downstream are less than 9, this alway happen at night until the morning. When at the 9am to 5pm, the dsl light normally not blink. but the P2P still like throttle, only have the speed less than 10kb.

After when i throttle P2P by the tm, this problem are alway happen.
Can any occur this problem so?

Any idea to solve it?
The phone line cable are arealdy change to new. Are that also effect by the modem?
My modem brand are Prolink 9000p and aztech 305eu, both are use more than 3 years.
Will this modem are outdate to support the dsl line?

Can any one give some idea for solve the problem.
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there is probably a problem with your connection caused by the traffic shaping hardware at your telephone exchange. call tmnut customer service and complain about your connection and tell them to send a technician to your house to check it.

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QUOTE(sholtsy @ Nov 2 2006, 10:49 AM)
Hello,
everyone I have a problem.
Why my line when the time after around 5pm, the dsl light of my modem will blink and the SNR margin for downstream are less than 9, this alway happen at night until the morning. When at the 9am to 5pm, the dsl light normally not blink. but the P2P still like throttle, only have the speed less than 10kb.

After when i throttle P2P by the tm, this problem are alway happen.
Can any occur this problem so?

Any idea to solve it?
The phone line cable are arealdy change to new. Are that also effect by the modem?
My modem brand are Prolink 9000p and aztech 305eu, both are use more than 3 years.
Will this modem are outdate to support the dsl line?

Can any one give some idea for solve the problem.
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better open new thread
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rather tumpang this thread
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TMNUT confirm doing p2p throttle liau no more doubts, minute ago i they call me then i phyco them to tell out the true smile.gif and yes they admit it was the p2p throttle on the international gateway. they and i was very fierce to them because my 7 coporate line was infected with the traffic shaping and the throttle they were doing, she got scare and start calling me as mr.ng :star: where as i told them i'm steven...hahahaha it's so funny tongue.gif

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QUOTE(steven437 @ Nov 2 2006, 11:03 AM)
TMNUT confirm doing p2p throttle liau no more doubts, minute ago i they call me then i phyco them to tell out the true smile.gif and yes they admit it was the p2p throttle on the international gateway. they and i was very fierce to them because my 7 coporate line was infected with the traffic shaping and the throttle they we doing, she got scare and start calling me as mr.ng :star: where as i told them i'm steven...hahahaha it's so funny tongue.gif
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they call you mr ng because they thought you were me. they probably got confused because you taruh them same way as i did to them. did tmnut say anything else about p2p throttle?
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QUOTE(steven437 @ Nov 2 2006, 11:03 AM)
TMNUT confirm doing p2p throttle liau no more doubts, minute ago i they call me then i phyco them to tell out the true smile.gif and yes they admit it was the p2p throttle on the international gateway.

ask them to make official announcement. this thing is not over yet. TM must responsible to customers. TM must promise us when TM will unthrottle BT or throttle BT permantently ?? we are now unsafe to use streamyx.

QUOTE(steven437 @ Nov 2 2006, 11:03 AM)
they and i was very fierce to them because my 7 coporate line was infected with the traffic shaping and the throttle they we doing, she got scare and start calling me as mr.ng  :star:  where as i told them i'm steven...hahahaha it's so funny tongue.gif
No use to apology from TM. this will not bring any solutions. They must call very customer with title "mr" or "mrs/madam".
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they call you mr ng because they thought you were me. they probably got confused because you taruh them same way as i did to them. did tmnut say anything else about p2p throttle?
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hahahahaha this is so funny biggrin.gif i taruh them kaw kaw until she said, they are having bandwidth problem so they got no choice to throttle all the international p2p and also http connection, then i told her that is really stupid tongue.gif then she keep quiet and i told her that's not the way to do it, because if they do that those ppl who register the line for business will be infected, and also not to forget the stupid upgrade from you all, give 2mb of free upgrade but still capped at 1mb what's the point of doing that, isn't that is just a waste of bandwidth and she got abit nervous when i tell her that, from the way she answer my question, and before i could finish taruh her, she say ok mr.ng (i was like wtf blink.gif) i'll ask the technical person to call you. then tu tu tu tu (hang up already)
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hahahahaha this is so funny biggrin.gif i taruh them kaw kaw until she said, they are having bandwidth problem so they got no choice to throttle all the international p2p and also http connection, then i told her that is really stupid tongue.gif then she keep quiet and i told her that's not the way to do it, because if they do that those ppl who register the line for business will be infected, and also not to forget the stupid upgrade from you all, give 2mb of free upgrade but still capped at 1mb what's the point of doing that, isn't that is just a waste of bandwidth and she got abit nervous when i tell her that, from the way she answer my question, and before i could finish taruh her, she say ok mr.ng (i was like wtf blink.gif) i'll ask the technical person to call you. then tu tu tu tu (hang up already)
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that is very funny they call you mr ng after you taruh them like that but very rude of that girl to hang up the phone before you can finish talking. anyway they also told me that a technician will call me but so far nobody call me. please tell us if a technician call you and let us know what the technician say to you.
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that is very funny they call you mr ng after you taruh them like that but very rude of that girl to hang up the phone before you can finish talking. anyway they also told me that a technician will call me but so far nobody call me. please tell us if a technician call you and let us know what the technician say to you.
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will report if they call, well if they don't call i'm going to spam them with email biggrin.gif

muaa ahahahahaha


oh yeah by the way guys, i plan to bring this issues to media, i have spoken to oriental daily, they ask me to gather the force and collect as much as complaint and opinion biggrin.gif and pass it to them, if we can gather all the complaint they will publish for us biggrin.gif

but i can't read or write chinese blush.gif blush.gif so to those who can and want to do it pm me so i can give you my email then send to my email biggrin.gif i'll put them all in to document and send it to them biggrin.gif

hehehe they want trouble, we give them trouble biggrin.gif

this ppl never give pressure they all will just sit around scratching ball only..

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will report if they call, well if they don't call i'm going to spam them with email biggrin.gif

muaa ahahahahaha
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thank you for reporting. if they don't call you back you can also complain to cfm and tell cfm they ignore your complain so cfm can send a letter to their ceo to taruh them.

just got an update from cfm. they say, tmnut does not gurantee any problems with the international link and p2p downloads. they say tmnut is only responsible for domestic traffic only. they also recommend us to email cfm if tmnut still does not give you the speed you pay for so they can show it to tmnut's ceo and their management just how bad their service is. they recommend email because they can't write down everything on the phone if you talk to them.

i think it is an outrage that tmnet dare to say they only give internet service for domestic use only. it is totally ridiculous. those dimwits at tmnut don't even know the meaning of internet.

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I'm curious why in my area, some ppl can use p2p at their max speed, n some suffer as me...
I'm thinking whether nuts throttle based on usage.
I find those not suffering, they r not using BT frequently, one of my friends is like that.
I wonder now...
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QUOTE(nwk @ Nov 2 2006, 11:29 AM)
thank you for reporting. if they don't call you back you can also complain to cfm and tell cfm they ignore your complain so cfm can send a letter to their ceo to taruh them.

just got an update from cfm. they say, tmnut does not gurantee any problems with the international link and p2p downloads. they say tmnut is only responsible for domestic traffic only. they also recommend us to email cfm if tmnut still does not give you the speed you pay for so they can show it to tmnut's ceo and their management just how bad their service is. they recommend email because they can't write down everything on the phone if you talk to them.

i think it is an outrage that tmnet dare to say they only give internet service for domestic use only. it is totally ridiculous. those dimwits at tmnut don't even know the meaning of internet.
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Internet become Intranet rclxms.gif TM Net is now an Intranet Service Provider

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thank you for reporting. if they don't call you back you can also complain to cfm and tell cfm they ignore your complain so cfm can send a letter to their ceo to taruh them.

just got an update from cfm. they say, tmnet does not gurantee any problems with the international link and p2p downloads. they say tmnet is only responsible for domestic traffic only. they also recommend us to email cfm if tmnet still does not give you the speed you pay for so they can show it to tmnet's ceo and their management just how bad their service is. they recommend email because they can't write down everything on the phone if you talk to them.

i think it is an outrage that tmnet dare to say they only give internet service for domestic use only. it is totally ridiculous. those dimwits at tmnet don't even know the meaning of internet.
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do they actually know what they are talking or not??If they gonna call me and tell me that, i'll give them all the F F F F F F, they are not even qualified to be an ISP rclxub.gif do they know what is internet??shessshhhh they only know how to talk COCK... vmad.gif vmad.gif vmad.gif

I'm going to drop them an email now biggrin.gif ask them to call me tongue.gif i want to cari pasal now biggrin.gif my internal flame is burning...because of their stupidity...

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do they actually know what they are talking or not??If they gonna call me and tell me that, i'll give them all the F F F F F F, they are not even qualified to be an ISP rclxub.gif do they know what is internet??shessshhhh they only know how to talk COCK... vmad.gif  vmad.gif  vmad.gif

I'm going to drop them an email now biggrin.gif ask them to call me tongue.gif i want to cari pasal now biggrin.gif my internal flame is burning...because of their stupidity...
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you are right to cari pasal. tmnet is run by uneducated people who don't know the meaning of internet. call them and give them all the f-word for us. when you call ask to speak to their manager and don't waste time talking to the CS person. when the manager speak to you, ask him or her if they know the meaning of internet or not. if they still give you that same stupid excuse the tmnet is only responsible for domestic use only, then tell them if you are not responsible if you take your own sweet time paying your bill.
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This is just tmnet styles:
1. igonore customers' complaints.
2. trained to become stupid and provide stupid solution.

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you are right to cari pasal. tmnet is run by uneducated people who don't know the meaning of internet. call them and give them all the f-word for us. when you call ask to speak to their manager and don't waste time talking to the CS person. when the manager speak to you, ask him or her if they know the meaning of internet or not. if they still give you that same stupid excuse the tmnet is only responsible for domestic use only, then tell them if you are not responsible if you take your own sweet time paying your bill.
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i spam them with email liau biggrin.gif and call them

i tell them if they don't resolve my problem ASAP, you will not get a single cent from me, then they say I can't do that, then i told them why not wink.gif you can do this to me i can do that to you lar tongue.gif (what chinese say is "you do chor yat i do sap hng"), then they say we could take legal action towards your action...(fuu damn taruh me biggrin.gif ) then i mah taruh them back lor and say oohhh that's your way of doing business fine then i'll see you in the consumer court wink.gif (don't know got or not pakai taruh saja) then before i hang up, i told them do remember before i subscribe the line you ppl tell me there won't be any port filtering or monitoring, how do you explain this, hmmm come and think of it, this is call cheating on consumer, i wonder how much compesation i'll get from TMNET if i see you ppl in court biggrin.gif

well if you can solve my problem then you happy I also happy biggrin.gif

then tu...tu...tu...tu

damn shiok rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif
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i spam them with email liau biggrin.gif and call them

i tell them if they don't resolve my problem ASAP, you will not get a single cent from me, then they say I can't do that, then i told them why not wink.gif you can do this to me i can do that to you lar tongue.gif (what chinese say is "you do chor yat i do sap hng"), then they say we could take legal action towards your action...(fuu damn taruh me biggrin.gif ) then i mah taruh them back lor and say oohhh that's your way of doing business fine then i'll see you in the consumer court wink.gif (don't know got or not pakai taruh saja) then before i hang up, i told them do remember before i subscribe the line you ppl tell me there won't be any port filtering or monitoring, how do you explain this, hmmm come and think of it, this is call cheating on consumer, i wonder how much compesation i'll get from TMNET if i see you ppl in court biggrin.gif

well if you can solve my problem then you happy I also happy biggrin.gif

then tu...tu...tu...tu

damn shiok  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
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wah! you are so cool and brave to *** tmnet like that. even they sue you, i think you stand a good chance of winning because they failed to deliver what they have promised you when you signed up for the service and that is unlimited access to the internet. Good show brother! I salute you for standing up for your consumer rights rclxms.gif . By the way, did you ask them if they know the meaning of internet or not?

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wah! you are so cool and brave to *** tmnet like that. even they sue you, i think you stand a good chance of winning because they failed to deliver what they have promised you when you signed up for the service and that is unlimited access to the internet. Good show brother! I salute you for standing up for your consumer rights  rclxms.gif . By the way, did you ask them if they know the meaning of internet or not?
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damn i forget about the internet part tongue.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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damn i forget about the internet part tongue.gif doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif
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I hope everyone here who is affected with BT throttling will taruh them like you. I have already taruh them when some stupid guy from ceo office called me to explain about the throttling 2 weeks ago. Now they don't even bother to call me anymore when I complain to CFM. If thousands of people taruh them like you did just now, I am sure they will get rid of that stupid trafic shaping hardware and remove all the speed restriction.

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I hope everyone here who is affected with BT throttling will taruh them like you. I have already taruh them when some stupid guy from ceo office called me to explain about the throttling 2 weeks ago. Now they don't even bother to call me anymore when I complain to CFM. If thousands of people taruh them like you did just now, I am sure they will get rid of that stupid trafic shaping hardware and remove all the speed restriction.
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give them all the pressure we have, but i pity them also biggrin.gif, well what the heck, they don't do as what they said biggrin.gif can't blame us to be cruel biggrin.gif

if they want to move to be a top ISP or move towards the future, they have to be more efficent biggrin.gif
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Ya know what, if you really going to court to solve this problem, I think lots of Bt user here will support you there.
Then, newspaper sure involved, then hehehe, everyone know how bad is tmnets..and evetually...you know it..
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QUOTE(steven437 @ Nov 3 2006, 01:51 PM)
give them all the pressure we have, but i pity them also biggrin.gif, well what the heck, they don't do as what they said biggrin.gif can't blame us to be cruel biggrin.gif

if they want to move to be a top ISP or move towards the future, they have to be more efficent biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(awyongcarl @ Nov 3 2006, 01:51 PM)
Ya know what, if you really going to court to solve this problem, I think lots of Bt user here will support you there.
Then, newspaper sure involved, then hehehe, everyone know how bad is tmnets..and evetually...you know it..
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to be honest they won't lar wink.gif talk cock only wink.gif because if this issues bring out to court, there is no profit for them wink.gif, and they have broke 1 of their contract requirement, which it say no PORT FILTERING AND TRAFFIC MONITORING.
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Ya know what, if you really going to court to solve this problem, I think lots of Bt user here will support you there.
Then, newspaper sure involved, then hehehe, everyone know how bad is tmnets..and evetually...you know it..
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then goverment will have to step in and that stupid minister lim keng yaek will be forced to resign because he don't know anything about internet.
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QUOTE(steven437 @ Nov 3 2006, 01:54 PM)
to be honest they won't lar wink.gif talk cock only wink.gif because if this issues bring out to court, there is no profit for them wink.gif, and they have broke 1 of their contract requirement, which  it say no PORT FILTERING AND TRAFFIC MONITORING.
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they also broke another contract requirement and that is unlimited access to internet!
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QUOTE(steven437 @ Nov 3 2006, 01:54 PM)
to be honest they won't lar wink.gif talk cock only wink.gif because if this issues bring out to court, there is no profit for them wink.gif, and they have broke 1 of their contract requirement, which  it say no PORT FILTERING AND TRAFFIC MONITORING.
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Amazing! Even with the bittorrent throttling, they still can't provide the service promised for non bittorrent traffic.

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tmnet really a LOUSY ISP.
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tmnet really a LOUSY ISP.
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ya my turn to taruh them on my next off day

when all those dude getting upgrade from 1mb to 1.5mbps

mine is downgraded from 1mb to 512 for god noes how long liao mad.gif
wtf bloody tmnet
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ya my turn to taruh them on my next off day

when all those dude getting upgrade from 1mb to 1.5mbps

mine is downgraded from 1mb to 512 for god noes how long liao mad.gif
wtf bloody tmnet
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go taruh them brother! the more people to taruh them, the more pressure they will get to stop the P2P traffic shaping. Please don't forget to tell them if they know what is the meaning of internet or not!
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Please don't forget to tell them if they know what is the meaning of internet or not!
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i also working in broadband helpdesk so i know all their tricks liao tongue.gif
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Do tat i will  biggrin.gif

i also working in broadband helpdesk so i know all their tricks liao  tongue.gif
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their tricks ??
all broadband play tricks ?? 大骗子??

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QUOTE(broken_string @ Nov 3 2006, 02:45 PM)
Do tat i will  biggrin.gif

i also working in broadband helpdesk so i know all their tricks liao  tongue.gif
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don't tell me you are working with tmnetS tongue.gif i'll burn your butt biggrin.gif tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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maybe he is working for maxis or jaring or timenet?
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broken_string is crazy with <<JDorama Fan's Club >>
not sure work for TM or not ... but sounds like really know lots of broadband "tricks".

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You guyz download speed still better than mine loh..... guess how fast is my bt download speed right now?

0.4 kbps!!!

Used to be 90 - 100 kbps.

Some more my line was down for 5 days....this month alone.

Monopoly sucks.... mad.gif

They should also replace the idiots at the call center......they always tell you to unplug your router and do the typical set up....and tell them the error code......

What other error codes are there lah..... 678 lah... stupid!!

If not they'll ask you if your modem light is blinking..... haiz.......think I'm blind meh.....

Call center also don't look like a call center..... call 10 - 20 times only got reply....

Go eat shit lah.. vmad.gif
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then why you call that line ??
1300889515 is a "troublemaking" line.
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You guyz download speed still better than mine loh..... guess how fast is my bt download speed right now?

0.4 kbps!!!

Used to be 90 - 100 kbps.

Some more my line was down for 5 days....this month alone.

Monopoly sucks.... mad.gif

They should also replace the idiots at the call center......they always tell you to unplug your router and do the typical set up....and tell them the error code......

What other error codes are there lah..... 678 lah... stupid!!

If not they'll ask you if your modem light is blinking..... haiz.......think I'm blind meh.....

Call center also don't look like a call center..... call 10 - 20 times only got reply....

Go eat shit lah.. vmad.gif
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lol crazy meh vads salary so low somemore everyday need to kena taruh by all lyn bros sweat.gif

salary low somemore everyday get fark, giv also i dun wan this job tongue.gif

i am working for singapore broadband biggrin.gif
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i don thing tmnet is throttling bt, i think is some hardware rosak then cant fit it.
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i don thing tmnet is throttling bt, i think is some hardware rosak then cant fit it.
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i don thing tmnet is throttling bt, i think is some hardware rosak then cant fit it.
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i think a hyppo die in their server and they are unable to locate the corpse. rclxms.gif
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i don thing tmnet is throttling bt, i think is some hardware rosak then cant fit it.
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lol crazy meh vads salary so low somemore everyday need to kena taruh by all lyn bros sweat.gif

salary low somemore everyday get fark, giv also i dun wan this job tongue.gif

i am working for singapore broadband biggrin.gif
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lucky you work at singapore tongue.gif if not hmmmm you will be wearing the hyppo suits biggrin.gif hehehe
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singapore ppl can get 80mbps line but they cannot bt at all
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QUOTE(broken_string @ Nov 3 2006, 10:13 PM)
i work in malaysia la
outsource  biggrin.gif

singapore ppl can get 80mbps line but they cannot bt at all
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off topic a bit: broken_string, you work at malaysia ? how come you work with singapore broadband and know those "tricks".

LOL got 80M at singapore ,yet can't use BT. WTF. Ar-Bu-Then ?? for what --browsing only meh ?!
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yeah ur right
i think a hyppo die in their server and they are unable to locate the corpse.  rclxms.gif
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By any chance would this hyppo be a blue hyppo? biggrin.gif

Also, raaargh raagh so angry and all that.


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80mbps line to chat on MSN only.. laugh.gif

maybe Malaysia is trying to do that too.. doh.gif I can't really see the point of having a fast line without P2P.. what are we going to do with it? music streaming? tongue.gif

QUOTE(foogray @ Nov 3 2006, 10:48 PM)
By any chance would this hyppo be a blue hyppo?  biggrin.gif
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got a called from COO division just now. as usual they' say they're upgrading the lines and not throttling. They will have press conference which i dont believe at all. sigh...

2 days already i cant dl torrent at all... 0kbps.
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QUOTE(nairud @ Nov 3 2006, 10:56 PM)
got a called from COO division just now. as usual they' say they're upgrading the lines and not throttling. They will have press conference which i dont believe at all. sigh...

2 days already i cant dl torrent at all... 0kbps.
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By any chance would this hyppo be a blue hyppo?  biggrin.gif

Also, raaargh raagh so angry and all that.
nwk, you are a hero and an inspiration. I wish more consumers in Malaysia were like you. Really, I do. Keep it up, man.
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QUOTE(nairud @ Nov 3 2006, 10:56 PM)
got a called from COO division just now. as usual they' say they're upgrading the lines and not throttling. They will have press conference which i dont believe at all. sigh...

2 days already i cant dl torrent at all... 0kbps.
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Only 2 days? That is not so bad compared to some of us. We have been throttled for almost 2 months now!!!! Fortunately, some of us know of other ways to bypass the shaping. By the way, what is COO division?
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QUOTE(nairud @ Nov 3 2006, 10:56 PM)
got a called from COO division just now. as usual they' say they're upgrading the lines and not throttling. They will have press conference which i dont believe at all. sigh...
2 days already i cant dl torrent at all... 0kbps.
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Want to cap also don't cap subscribers until single digit kB/s speed la.

Damn incompetent isp.It's really unfair for those who are affected yet there are some who can still manage to get away with full unthrottled BT speeds without even paying more.

For those who are affected and managed to contact the top management / network operation division please do us a favour and help yourself. Please tell them why inconsistencies exist between unthrottled and throttled P2P users. Why do they have better and bad ips.What's the unbalanced bandwidth all about?


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My naruto torrent sometimes 20+kbps.. sometimes just ~6kbps.. using uTorrent.. there's a few TMnet users, but can't seem to get data from them.. doh.gif
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the worst thing about this throttling is when they block the trackers. i have always got this problem connecting to the trackers. it is not so bad if the torrent is a public one because you can still connect to some peers via DHT but private trackers won't allow DHT. So if you can't connect to a private tracker, you can't download anything!
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the worst thing about this throttling is when they block the trackers. i have always got this problem connecting to the trackers. it is not so bad if the torrent is a public one because you can still connect to some peers via DHT but private trackers won't allow DHT. So if you can't connect to a private tracker, you can't download anything!
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off topic a bit: broken_string, you work at malaysia ? how come you work with singapore broadband and know those "tricks".

LOL got 80M at singapore ,yet can't use BT. WTF. Ar-Bu-Then ?? for what --browsing only meh ?!
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they outsource to our company mah
thus they supply us wif their broadband connection right here in malaysia
damm fast the line drool.gif

not really tricks la but juz the procedure to handle cust problem and calls.
usually its about the same for all broadband call center but the quality of service between the 2 well u know tmnet yawn.gif

i tell u more about it when i got the time

basically the 80mbps is still in testing so its free for 6 months, they mostly use high speed line like 10mb or 25mb for gaming, maple story, wow and stuff like tat.
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QUOTE(broken_string @ Nov 4 2006, 02:12 AM)
basically the 80mbps is still in testing so its free for 6 months, they mostly use high speed line like 10mb or 25mb for gaming, maple story, wow and stuff like tat.
Good morning everyone. I really can't imagine the speed of 80M !
Now, forget about BT, just http download with 80M line,
it much be reaching 8000K !! rclxub.gif 我昏啦 !
and WHAT !? got FREE 6 months some more !! wa lao ye !!
tmnet must learn from Singapore.

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i cari pasal with tmnet again this morning. i ask the cs boy why are they still throttling my connection and you know what he say? he tell me to go to speedometer website to test speed! I taruh him and say there is nothing wrong with my speed and I demand to know why are they still throttling me. then he tell me bullshit storey about my connection to server and how if there are many people on that server my connection will be slow. then i taruh him again and say your ceo already told me you are throttling p2p traffic, why are you telling me about server speed? then he panic and say this could be because of a nationwide service disruption going on now and he blame the technicians for controlling the speed and he say he can't control the speed. So i ask him how long this service disruption will be? he say he have no idea.

those tmnet cs robots still want to tell bullshit storey about p2p even though their ceo already admit it. when are they going to start telling us the truth? guys, if you call CS and they tell you bullshit when you ask about throtttling, please don't waste time and taruh them right away! don't give chance to them!!!!
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Lol why did u want to waste money to call thier cs since u know they'll only give u bull crap answers?
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Lol why did u want to waste money to call thier cs since u know they'll only give u bull crap answers?
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ha ha !!! taruh tmnet habis habis !!
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Weird.. I was able to connect to the trackers, just no transfers.. doh.gif
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i cari pasal with tmnet again this morning. i ask the cs boy why are they still throttling my connection and you know what he say? he tell me to go to speedometer website to test speed! I taruh him and say there is nothing wrong with my speed and I demand to know why are they still throttling me. then he tell me bullshit storey about my connection to server and how if there are many people on that server my connection will be slow. then i taruh him again and say your ceo already told me you are throttling p2p traffic, why are you telling me about server speed? then he panic and say this could be because of a nationwide service disruption going on now and he blame the technicians for controlling the speed and he say he can't control the speed. So i ask him how long this service disruption will be? he say he have no idea.

those tmnet cs robots still want to tell bullshit storey about p2p even though their ceo already admit it. when are they going to start telling us the truth? guys, if you call CS and they tell you bullshit when you ask about throtttling, please don't waste time and taruh them right away! don't give chance to them!!!!
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As I always say:
1300889515 is a "troublemaking" line. those operators are trained out to become lincensed liers. 它是人间大强盗!
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emailed by CRM... same bullshit, we dont throttle because we cant control peers connection, etc ,etc , etc
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QUOTE(nwk @ Nov 4 2006, 08:10 AM)
i cari pasal with tmnet again this morning. i ask the cs boy why are they still throttling my connection and you know what he say? he tell me to go to speedometer website to test speed! I taruh him and say there is nothing wrong with my speed and I demand to know why are they still throttling me. then he tell me bullshit storey about my connection to server and how if there are many people on that server my connection will be slow. then i taruh him again and say your ceo already told me you are throttling p2p traffic, why are you telling me about server speed? then he panic and say this could be because of a nationwide service disruption going on now and he blame the technicians for controlling the speed and he say he can't control the speed. So i ask him how long this service disruption will be? he say he have no idea.

those tmnet cs robots still want to tell bullshit storey about p2p even though their ceo already admit it. when are they going to start telling us the truth? guys, if you call CS and they tell you bullshit when you ask about throtttling, please don't waste time and taruh them right away! don't give chance to them!!!!
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still got nationwide service disruption going on now? really?

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still got nationwide service disruption going on now? really?
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dont bother calling their technician. they always thinks we knows nothing about all this stuff and talk crap hoping we'll buy into it...

QUOTE(ATI.Bob @ Nov 4 2006, 01:20 AM)
Weird.. I was able to connect to the trackers, just no transfers.. doh.gif
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QUOTE(nairud @ Nov 4 2006, 09:23 AM)
same here. but after a while, the tracker will be offline.
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trackers no problem for me...
can even connect to peers but cant dl anything except from local peers of course..
so without local peers, my speed is effectively 0kbps shakehead.gif
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i can torrent also...but must wait for awhile before downloads starts... smile.gif

btw, my niece that is working for streamyx confirms that they are doing 'something' about torrents....
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QUOTE(work_tgr @ Nov 4 2006, 07:16 AM)
Good morning everyone. I really can't imagine the speed of 80M !
Now, forget about BT, just http download with 80M line,
it much be reaching 8000K !! rclxub.gif  我昏啦 !
and WHAT !? got FREE 6 months some more !! wa lao ye !!
tmnet must learn from Singapore.
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u wont know how much my company value their customer here sweat.gif
got time i tell u some of my experience
if only tmnet treats us like tat yawn.gif

QUOTE(nwk @ Nov 4 2006, 08:10 AM)
i cari pasal with tmnet again this morning. i ask the cs boy why are they still throttling my connection and you know what he say? he tell me to go to speedometer website to test speed! I taruh him and say there is nothing wrong with my speed and I demand to know why are they still throttling me. then he tell me bullshit storey about my connection to server and how if there are many people on that server my connection will be slow. then i taruh him again and say your ceo already told me you are throttling p2p traffic, why are you telling me about server speed? then he panic and say this could be because of a nationwide service disruption going on now and he blame the technicians for controlling the speed and he say he can't control the speed. So i ask him how long this service disruption will be? he say he have no idea.

those tmnet cs robots still want to tell bullshit storey about p2p even though their ceo already admit it. when are they going to start telling us the truth? guys, if you call CS and they tell you bullshit when you ask about throtttling, please don't waste time and taruh them right away! don't give chance to them!!!!
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actually no point u fark those cs ppl
they dun have the power to help u do anything also, its juz waste of time
they cant do shit to help u.

everything we do will be useless unless there is a competitor for tmnet juz like our telco here. else i dun think tmnet giv a damm shakehead.gif

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QUOTE(broken_string @ Nov 4 2006, 10:28 AM)
u wont know how much my company value their customer here  sweat.gif
got time i tell u some of my experience
if only tmnet treats us like tat  yawn.gif 

Should something RM200 for singapore 80M line ?
tell me lah. I really want know the "tricks". Magic tricks ??!! smell like lie to customers blush.gif

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no la the price damm cheap only
http://www.singnet.com.sg/plans_and_services/ataglance/

subscribe 10mbps line get one macbook free somemore laugh.gif
not tricks la, its juz standard procedure like remove mircofilter and stuff
but usually we will send a lines man/ technician to the cust house.

but usually tmnet guy will talk crap and hope u to put down the phone tongue.gif
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Just forget this is tmnet from Malaysia. How can Malaysia be compared with Singapore ?? No way . After 20 years, Malaysia's broadband still much behide that other country.
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QUOTE(broken_string @ Nov 4 2006, 10:28 AM)
actually no point u fark those cs ppl
they dun have the power to help u do anything also, its juz waste  of time
they cant do shit to help u.

everything we do will be useless unless there is a competitor for tmnet juz like our telco here. else i dun think tmnet giv a damm  shakehead.gif
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i cari pasal just to pressure those idiots into telling the truth. i already know the truth since a guy from ceo office told me. anyway for those who want to complain to ceo but cannot get through because his mailbox is full, here is his new email address: ceo@tmnet.com.my

i sent another email to ceo this morning again to demand they stop this throttling business immediately.
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I sent TMNet an email regarding this issue on Thursday, and a couple more issues raised recently (possible implementation of download quotas, future bandwidth issues).

I received an email (not an automated one) from TMNet yesterday promising a 'thorough response' to my queries by the end of next week. I will publish their response verbatim on our front page [http://www.lowyat.net] when I do get it.
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yes ... hope a good answer such as unthrottle BT by next week rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(work_tgr @ Nov 4 2006, 05:15 PM)
yes ... hope a good answer such as unthrottle BT by next week  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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Yeah, they'll unthrottle and cap all of us at 30GB per month. doh.gif Then say 'Hey this is 10 times more than what Maxis is offering.

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Why dont u guy sign a letter and get as many user as u can and find 1 day all together go and terminate ur streamyx!! thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(badawi_rocks @ Nov 4 2006, 04:52 PM)
I sent TMNet an email regarding this issue on Thursday, and a couple more issues raised recently (possible implementation of download quotas, future bandwidth issues).

I received an email (not an automated one) from TMNet yesterday promising a 'thorough response' to my queries by the end of next week.  I will publish their response verbatim on our front page [http://www.lowyat.net] when I do get it.
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did u mention to them that ur representing lowyat.net here or something...
probably they entertained knowing that it will be read by many users lol laugh.gif

either that or the rest of us is sending mail to the wrong mailbox all this while

QUOTE(work_tgr @ Nov 4 2006, 05:15 PM)
yes ... hope a good answer such as unthrottle BT by next week  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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but i hope they wont give answer such as " will do so and so in the future"... they always give a statement that isnt well defined like in the future, best effort... who knows when their future will be... tongue.gif


anyway thanks alot to badawi rocks... looking foward to their reply smile.gif
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QUOTE(badawi_rocks @ Nov 4 2006, 04:52 PM)
I sent TMNet an email regarding this issue on Thursday, and a couple more issues raised recently (possible implementation of download quotas, future bandwidth issues).

I received an email (not an automated one) from TMNet yesterday promising a 'thorough response' to my queries by the end of next week.  I will publish their response verbatim on our front page [http://www.lowyat.net] when I do get it.
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thanks for your support! I hope you will get a reply soon and publish it on the front page of lowyat. I also hope they don't give you an automated response or some letter that says we will look into it, blah, blah. Let us all pray that tmnet will come clean and give us an official response on the p2p throttling issue.

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QUOTE(kong5091 @ Nov 4 2006, 06:04 PM)
Why dont u guy sign a letter and get as many user as u can and find 1 day all together go and terminate ur streamyx!! thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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tm net will create one counter for you terminater your account so that they dun ahve so much BT problem
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Just forget this is tmnet from Malaysia. How can Malaysia be compared with Singapore ?? No way . After 20 years, Malaysia's broadband still much behide that other country.
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QUOTE(work_tgr @ Nov 4 2006, 11:51 AM)
Just forget this is tmnet from Malaysia. How can Malaysia be compared with Singapore ?? No way . After 20 years, Malaysia's broadband still much behide that other country.
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ya, all those shit they say about msc this and that are craps wif this kinda service

ah beng's land is still miles ahead of us look at their new promotions - Click here

i hope the gamen can let another ISP company in malaysia to make the market more competitive like in sg
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QUOTE(broken_string @ Nov 5 2006, 10:01 AM)
ya, all those shit they say about msc this and that are craps wif this kinda service

ah beng's land is still miles ahead of us look at their new promotions - Click here

i hope the gamen can let another ISP company in malaysia to make the market more competitive like in sg
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bah... our gov are always protecting them instead...
The last thing they will do is let any good foreign company to come in...

QUOTE(kambing @ Nov 5 2006, 05:50 PM)
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man i love this thumbup.gif
good job... thumbup.gif
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post Nov 5 2006, 05:56 PM

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Nice signature , but it kinda hurt the eyes , hopefully you can make it something smaller


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post Nov 5 2006, 06:01 PM

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I'll remove the sign below when tmnet unthrottles the p2p connections!

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post Nov 5 2006, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(prasys @ Nov 5 2006, 05:56 PM)
Nice signature , but it kinda hurt the eyes , hopefully you can make it something smaller
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i kinda like it. the bigger the better. maybe someone can put that banner in front of michael lai's office.
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post Nov 5 2006, 08:37 PM

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ya .. this one is good !!
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post Nov 5 2006, 09:14 PM

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erm.. I don't think defamation is allowed here.. tongue.gif..
but anyway.. I like it.. laugh.gif .. just a little too pink-ish to my liking.. biggrin.gif
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post Nov 5 2006, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(aawcy @ Nov 5 2006, 09:48 AM)
yalor.........what multmedia "super corridor" what's that? so slow one meh?
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We should call it multimedia slow corridor.It's slow like shit.
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post Nov 5 2006, 10:09 PM

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i hope the gamen can let another ISP company in malaysia to make the market more competitive like in sg

Small republic like SG got more than 1 ISP??? thats way too competitive compare in malaysia....
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post Nov 5 2006, 10:11 PM

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TM ruins Malaysia's reputation.
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post Nov 5 2006, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(work_tgr @ Nov 5 2006, 10:11 PM)
TM ruins Malaysia's reputation.
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FYI, not just TM laugh.gif
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post Nov 5 2006, 10:25 PM

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how irony ...
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post Nov 5 2006, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(work_tgr @ Nov 5 2006, 10:25 PM)
how irony ...
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Can you deny it?
Take a look at The Real World Issues then you will know.
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post Nov 5 2006, 10:55 PM

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my DSLAM got problem again.
alot of timeout in my connection
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post Nov 5 2006, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(destiny6 @ Nov 5 2006, 10:09 PM)
Small republic like SG got more than 1 ISP??? thats way too competitive compare in malaysia....
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in fact they have 3 major ISP provider and all the inbound call from customer will be monitor should the call monitoring team find that the customer is not satisfy, un happy etc? the manager in charge will call them personally within that day to settle the issue wif the customer.


as for the siggy i would prefer if the word screamyx can be included laugh.gif
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QUOTE(destiny6 @ Nov 5 2006, 10:09 PM)
Small republic like SG got more than 1 ISP??? thats way too competitive compare in malaysia....
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in fact they have 3 major ISP provider and all the inbound call from customer will be monitor should the call monitoring team find that the customer is not satisfy, un happy etc? the manager in charge will call them personally within that day to settle the issue wif the customer.


as for the siggy i would prefer if the word screamyx can be included laugh.gif
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QUOTE(work_tgr @ Nov 5 2006, 10:11 PM)
TM ruins Malaysia's reputation.
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reputation? what reputation? malaysia don't have any reputation to ruin. in fact malaysia is so lame, it doesn't even have a reputation. even North Korea is more famous then malaysia!
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no reputation is better than bad reputation; go malaysia, go!


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post Nov 5 2006, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(nwk @ Nov 5 2006, 11:39 PM)
reputation? what reputation? malaysia don't have any reputation to ruin. in fact malaysia is so lame, it doesn't even have a reputation. even North Korea is more famous then malaysia!
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laugh.gif guess thats wat u can expect frm bolehland

newayz i think we're heading out of topic already
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broken_string, have you complained and taruh tmnet already? if you have already done so, please tell us what they say to you. that also goes for the rest of you guys. tell us what the baboons at tmnet told you about throttling. As for my email that i sent yesterday, they haven't sent a replied yet....

This post has been edited by nwk: Nov 5 2006, 11:51 PM
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post Nov 6 2006, 12:27 AM

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post Nov 6 2006, 06:00 AM

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QUOTE(warez @ Nov 6 2006, 12:27 AM)
Ah Yes! More installation of the traffic shaper appliance at Taman Midah, Taman Tan Yee Biew & Bangsar
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post Nov 6 2006, 08:24 AM

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broken_string, have you complained and taruh tmnet already? if you have already done so, please tell us what they say to you. that also goes for the rest of you guys. tell us what the baboons at tmnet told you about throttling. As for my email that i sent yesterday, they haven't sent a replied yet....
A CS called me.....and said she will send a teachnician guy over to explain everything to me and check to try solve the problem....i still waiting though..... whistling.gif
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QUOTE(destiny6 @ Nov 6 2006, 08:24 AM)
A CS called me.....and said she will send a teachnician guy over to explain everything to me and check to try solve the problem....i still waiting though..... whistling.gif
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thanks for reporting in. please tell us what the technician explain to you and don't forget to ask him about the p2p throttling.
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we know now the bt speed is teruk
how about http dl
how fast is it?

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