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post Aug 29 2014, 09:28 AM, updated 10y ago

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WELCOME TO [V4].

Continuation from previous:

Car Care & Detailing [V1]

Car Care & Detailing [V2]

Car Care & Detailing [V3]
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(Articles/Suggestions with links are most welcome)

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Detailing TT - 12 Sept 2014 : 9.30pm
Location: Al Barkath Restaurant, Ara Damansara


Just a small gathering of detailing enthusiasts and friends for a chit-chatting and 'teh tarik' session.

All are invited. If you see some detailing stuffs on the table, just head to it and introduce yourself.

Cheerio.

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post Aug 29 2014, 09:38 AM

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thanks sifu Krismas!

as promised: https://plus.google.com/+JasonLimQuazacolt/posts/LzcXTB9DpNg My heart sank when i got back to my car just to discover it being scratched after a meet up session with the folks from Uber at Bangsar.

Disclaimer: "kids do not try this at home"
ideally you'd want to wash the whole car first prior to doing any correction as you risk contaminating the unaffected areas and having a half assed correction as dirt etc contaminates the area you're working on.

i personally am a bit ocd and i couldn't bear to see my beloved car in such state hence i took action immediately even if it's 2am in the morning on a Friday(few hours earlier).
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 29 2014, 09:38 AM)
thanks sifu Krismas!

as promised: https://plus.google.com/+JasonLimQuazacolt/posts/LzcXTB9DpNg My heart sank when i got back to my car just to discover it being scratched after a meet up session with the folks from Uber at Bangsar.

Disclaimer: "kids do not try this at home"
ideally you'd want to wash the whole car first prior to doing any correction as you risk contaminating the unaffected areas and having a half assed correction as dirt etc contaminates the area you're working on.

i personally am a bit ocd and i couldn't bear to see my beloved car in such state hence i took action immediately even if it's 2am in the morning on a Friday(few hours earlier).
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sifu, how frequent did you wash your car ?
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WOW....looks like multiple attacks by multiple creatures there!!! Nice save. Ultimate Compound?
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 29 2014, 09:38 AM)
thanks sifu Krismas!

as promised: https://plus.google.com/+JasonLimQuazacolt/posts/LzcXTB9DpNg My heart sank when i got back to my car just to discover it being scratched after a meet up session with the folks from Uber at Bangsar.

Disclaimer: "kids do not try this at home"
ideally you'd want to wash the whole car first prior to doing any correction as you risk contaminating the unaffected areas and having a half assed correction as dirt etc contaminates the area you're working on.

i personally am a bit ocd and i couldn't bear to see my beloved car in such state hence i took action immediately even if it's 2am in the morning on a Friday(few hours earlier).
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Wow those are terrible! My heart would sank too. But then, took action at 2am.. you're really ocd haha. But i see that most scratchs are gone in the end. So what did you do? Compound with hand? Or machine?

Btw, your car looks somewhat... dirty in the picture, for a guy like you haha! You need to finish your stockpiled products yo! Last time i saw your just waxed and BSDed picture, super shine and clean!

And yeah, V4!

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 29 2014, 09:38 AM)
thanks sifu Krismas!

as promised: https://plus.google.com/+JasonLimQuazacolt/posts/LzcXTB9DpNg My heart sank when i got back to my car just to discover it being scratched after a meet up session with the folks from Uber at Bangsar.

Disclaimer: "kids do not try this at home"
ideally you'd want to wash the whole car first prior to doing any correction as you risk contaminating the unaffected areas and having a half assed correction as dirt etc contaminates the area you're working on.

i personally am a bit ocd and i couldn't bear to see my beloved car in such state hence i took action immediately even if it's 2am in the morning on a Friday(few hours earlier).
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Is that your 2nd wife Inspira?
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QUOTE(g88 @ Aug 29 2014, 09:54 AM)
sifu, how frequent did you wash your car ?
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not sifu la and the last time i wash was that youtube video i posted to demo sonax bsd

that was... 3-5 months ago?

QUOTE(KrisMas @ Aug 29 2014, 09:56 AM)
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WOW....looks like multiple attacks by multiple creatures there!!! Nice save. Ultimate Compound?
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ikr? the scratch on TOP of the door handle was just mind boggling. it doesn't matches the "pattern".
my only conclusion is my car being unfortunate meeting REALLY drunk assholes.

Anyways i used ultimate polish, with few more passes since i don't want to risk marring on the unaffected area (again, as i didn't wash down the car/have clean surface to work with)

i used tissue paper mainly for cleaning the affected area with megs final inspection then after polishing also IPA'd it so needed tissue to dry it as the borders of the affected area were beading up (as the protection is still there) and the IPA will leave residue if it happens to flash in a bead lol

and sonax disposable polishing cloth ( still on my 2nd piece after bought so long as i cut it into really small pieces tongue.gif) as well since i don't feel like washing 3-4 cloths (UP/PB BH/ULW/BSD) just for OCD'd spot corrections.

i noticed that the polishing cloth are more abrasive (or they carry/hold the product better?) than regular MF cloths which reflected when i applied BSD, had to use a tissue paper to buff off BSD which i usually didn't need to for MF cloths.

QUOTE(efaceninja @ Aug 29 2014, 10:12 AM)
Wow those are terrible! My heart would sank too. But then, took action at 2am.. you're really ocd haha. But i see that most scratchs are gone in the end. So what did you do? Compound with hand? Or machine?

Btw, your car looks somewhat... dirty in the picture, for a guy like you haha! You need to finish your stockpiled products yo! Last time i saw your just waxed and BSDed picture, super shine and clean!
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purely by hand laugh.gif

and yes it's been many months since i've washed my car. i'm "OK" with it since the car beads/sheets water so aggressively every rain (and it washes away the previous dirt automatically every time LOL!) so it's a decent indication that the protection is still there.

heck, when i was ipa'ing the area, megs ULW was still protecting the underneath strongly and all my IPA did initially was "blurring"/"hazing" the wax up. and having beading IPA wasn't a pleasant experience to deal with as:
1) i cannot clean at all
2) i actually have to clean more to get rid of the compromised wax

but yea, after a rain, the shine/cleanliness automatically returns until the left over beads (that couldn't sheet off) will dry and flash into a mild watermark laugh.gif

QUOTE(scoutfai @ Aug 29 2014, 11:58 AM)
Is that your 2nd wife Inspira?
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i'm single, so i guess first? sweat.gif
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Congrats on V4..!!!

Sorry master zerosp I bought OPC already.. I have made arrangement before knowing that you have stock.. Huhuhu

Met master krismas bought GG red, MF Applicator, Enviro and get free sample of Sonax *ehem ehem*.. Very nice and soft spoken guy.. Thanks master!!
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Aiyo...no need for the "*ehem ehem*" la....it's just the Sonax BSD....nothing special. Anyway, next time we'll meet up properly so can chit chat la. Looks like we're both in a quite hurry today... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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Ace Hardware no stock/discontinued for halogen lamp with stand.. So frustrated..

So I bought PVC pipe.. With some help from unker gugel

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Halogen lamp 500W - Hot enough until halogen inner rubber burn ady.. Need to find LED pulak..

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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Aug 29 2014, 04:28 PM)
Aiyo...no need for the "*ehem ehem*" la....it's just the Sonax BSD....nothing special. Anyway, next time we'll meet up properly so can chit chat la. Looks like we're both in a quite hurry today... laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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but BSD is SO f***ING GOOD drool.gif

i'm amazed ULW is still alive after so long that i had troubles IPA'ing it off sweat.gif
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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Aug 29 2014, 04:28 PM)
Aiyo...no need for the "*ehem ehem*" la....it's just the Sonax BSD....nothing special. Anyway, next time we'll meet up properly so can chit chat la. Looks like we're both in a quite hurry today... laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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Lol.. Mana tau someone eyeing this thread.. flex.gif

Yeah.. Too bad.. Next time we shall meet again again again....
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 29 2014, 05:34 PM)
but BSD is SO f***ING GOOD  drool.gif

i'm amazed ULW is still alive after so long that i had troubles IPA'ing it off sweat.gif
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I cannot find BSD in local hypermarket. Do they have it in HQ - Glenmarie?

Jauh la from my house.. icon_question.gif

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QUOTE(roxx @ Aug 29 2014, 05:37 PM)
I cannot find BSD in local hypermarket. Do they have it in HQ - Glenmarie?

Jauh la from my house..  icon_question.gif
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i bought from sonax hq during their promotion wut
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Guys, may I know what do u use to clean interior windows that has 'greasy film' ?

Saw this 'ArmorAll glass cleaner for 16 ringgit, worth the buy? Or should I invest more in Meguiars glass cleaner?

Oh, my windows are tinted if that makes a difference ( tint vs glass surface)

Also, any idea how much Meguiars MPC is? Or any alternative? Saw someone on youtube swear by it, spray on, scrub off easily for tires biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(jedi_dc @ Aug 29 2014, 06:44 PM)
Guys, may I know what do u use to clean interior windows that has 'greasy film' ?

Saw this 'ArmorAll glass cleaner for 16 ringgit, worth the buy? Or should I invest more in Meguiars glass cleaner?

Oh, my windows are tinted if that makes a difference ( tint vs glass surface)

Also, any idea how much Meguiars MPC is? Or any alternative? Saw someone on youtube swear by it, spray on, scrub off easily for tires biggrin.gif
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Meguiars D101 All Purpose Cleaner 1Gal is RM121 from Hypercoat Malaysia. Alternatives would be like Optimum Power Cleaner, Duragloss #401, Osren Multi Cleaner 4L (RM40 btw).

For tinted glass, it is recommended that you use an ammonia-free glass cleaner. Most over the counter automotive glass cleaners are ammonia-free but pricey in Malaysia. Ace Hardware sells a variety in the glass cleaner section. Osren's Glass Cleaner is RM38 for 4L. Meguiars Detailers Line D120 Glass Cleaner Concentrate is RM168. Happy Shopping !!
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QUOTE(roxx @ Aug 29 2014, 03:59 PM)
Congrats on V4..!!!

Sorry master zerosp I bought OPC already.. I have made arrangement before knowing that you have stock.. Huhuhu

Met master krismas bought GG red, MF Applicator, Enviro and get free sample of Sonax *ehem ehem*.. Very nice and soft spoken guy.. Thanks master!!
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No problem smile.gif
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Can this be considered as a compliment for its durability?

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Ignore the left toilet bowl brush, a bit too stiff. Maybe for wheel well inner, but still I prefer something softer.

The long boom brush on the right, in my opinion is not soft. Whether it is hard or not is subjective. I personally prefer something softer. But still it can be a suitable wheel spoke brush in some hands. Most importantly, it is so cheap. RM2.30, you can change a new one every month.
Other pros about this brush is the center core is wrapped by non-metal material so chances of scratching the paint of the wheel due to the center metal is very low. Nevertheless, do bear in mind that I do not say there is no risk you might scratch from the bristle, although I think it is unlikely. The boom is also expandable, you can see two buttons there to lock it in place. I will intend to use this for the super tight space between the front disc break caliper and the wheel rim inner wall surface near the caliper, often time any decent brush after some usage at this tight space will deform in shape (bristle), with this super cheap brush I do not mind replacing it every month. biggrin.gif

Product from Mr. DIY

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QUOTE(roxx @ Aug 29 2014, 05:19 PM)
Result:

Using UC only - No swirl marks but halogen appear. It's not slick when touched and still have the 'squeaky' feel.

Using DG501 only will leave slick feeling on hand but since it contains 'mild' or 'fine' abrasive, light swirl marks still can be seen.

Using UC and finish with DG501 -  thumbup.gif    thumbup.gif

Halogen lamp 500W - Hot enough until halogen inner rubber burn ady.. Need to find LED pulak..
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rclxms.gif rclxms.gif beautiful! so you mean you did a 3 step?
1st: UC + orange LC
2nd: DG501 + white LC
3rd: DG501 + black LC
nice info on the paint outcome if using only a single combination! so you in the end did it all for your whole car? how long did it take?

QUOTE(jedi_dc @ Aug 29 2014, 06:44 PM)
Guys, may I know what do u use to clean interior windows that has 'greasy film' ?

Saw this 'ArmorAll glass cleaner for 16 ringgit, worth the buy? Or should I invest more in Meguiars glass cleaner?

Oh, my windows are tinted if that makes a difference ( tint vs glass surface)

Also, any idea how much Meguiars MPC is? Or any alternative? Saw someone on youtube swear by it, spray on, scrub off easily for tires biggrin.gif
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Meg glass cleaner got 20% discount now~! at selected AEON

QUOTE(LazyJin @ Aug 29 2014, 09:53 PM)
Meguiars D101 All Purpose Cleaner 1Gal is RM121 from Hypercoat Malaysia. Alternatives would be like Optimum Power Cleaner, Duragloss #401, Osren Multi Cleaner 4L (RM40 btw).

For tinted glass, it is recommended that you use an ammonia-free glass cleaner. Most over the counter automotive glass cleaners are ammonia-free but pricey in Malaysia. Ace Hardware sells a variety in the glass cleaner section. Osren's Glass Cleaner is RM38 for 4L. Meguiars Detailers Line D120 Glass Cleaner Concentrate is RM168.  Happy Shopping !!
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Ace Hardware really sells wayyyy too much brands causing me to have real difficulty choosing anything if i didn't research (read reviews) before hand on certain brands.

QUOTE(scoutfai @ Aug 29 2014, 10:34 PM)
Some of you might interest, some might not.

Ignore the left toilet bowl brush, a bit too stiff. Maybe for wheel well inner, but still I prefer something softer.
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the toilet bowl brush usually is really quite stiff, i was hunting before and toilet bowl's one all out.
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did some shopping today... biggrin.gif tongue.gif blush.gif
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i got chance to try out a bit on the ultramate machine while i was there at Osren. no back plate, just plug in electric and switch on, wanna feel the vibration. really quite vibrating lols. and also went on to touch all their MF cloths there to feel it. i would say they're all very plush, especially the more expensive one. its definitely better than PG's cloth. The cheapest Osren MF feels already better than the one from Daiso, so i now would get Osren's one if i'm getting new MF cloth. now i dunno where to put (rate) the MF that comes with Meg ULW.. oh i also saw there seems to be some new products in their show room, blue labelling one, not seen on their website yet. i think its a one-step compound/polish/wax product.

AEON Wangsa maju still got Meg's product on 20% discount, i got myself Meg endurance gel & glass cleaner as above. what i saw there still got UC, UP, UQD, UQL, one last UPW. no more ULW. see picture and decide if you want to grab'em
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also this aeon got quite some 3M's spray type product, anyone here used before?
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oh, also wanted to show what happens to my side mirror after a long distance drive at night time. i hate bugs.
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QUOTE(efaceninja @ Aug 30 2014, 12:44 AM)
rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif beautiful!  so you mean you did a 3 step?
1st: UC + orange LC
2nd: DG501 + white LC
3rd: DG501 + black LC
nice info on the paint outcome if using only a single combination!  so you in the end did it all for your whole car? how long did it take?
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Yes. 3 step for testing..

For heavy correction then I need to use these combos. But for non corrected paint I will only use DG501 or OHP for 1 step..

Wanted to test DG105 TPP as 1 step but no stock available right now..

Actually I haven't completed whole car.. Do it when I got free time.. doh.gif

Quazacolt *can't wait to test BSD* rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif
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Can this be considered as a compliment for its durability?
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either the bsd or ulw, or how the glaze is sticking the wax on it... i don't know.

i know they work really well together lol
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Hi guys... disturb again. I got my new car but thinking of to coat or not to coat. If I don't coat. What is the next step I should take to take care of the paint.

Thank you again sifus
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Yes. 3 step for testing..

For heavy correction then I need to use these combos. But for non corrected paint I will only use DG501 or OHP for 1 step..

Wanted to test DG105 TPP as 1 step but no stock available right now..

Actually I haven't completed whole car.. Do it when I got free time..  doh.gif

Quazacolt *can't wait to test BSD*  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
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I see you put my old faithful to good use, well done my friend.

Do update me on the OHP performance.
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QUOTE(d_scientist @ Aug 30 2014, 10:41 AM)
Hi guys... disturb again. I got my new car but thinking of to coat or not to coat. If I don't coat. What is the next step I should take to take care of the paint.

Thank you again sifus
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Not sifu here but, wash, clay, wax, and there after wash regularly i would say.
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would like to ask.. what's the difference between Meg's QDetailer and QWax application ? both looks the same from the product description, although i feel that QD has more cleaning properties and QW has more protection properties..

so by right one should wash the car and apply QD first then QW ? unsure.gif

btw.. anyone went to the Meg's fair at Sepang over this weekend ? smile.gif
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efaceninja Very nice haul there brows.gif Is that the chamois leather drying cloth? Also, how much is the foam applicator pad?

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QUOTE(efaceninja @ Aug 30 2014, 12:06 PM)
Not sifu here but, wash, clay, wax, and there after wash regularly i would say.
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thanks ninja bro... I'm going thru some pages in auto geek and saw permanon coating that i can DIY. any idea where i can find some? Maybe in penang.. .or maybe even other product! thanks

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QUOTE(calvin @ Aug 30 2014, 12:12 PM)
would like to ask.. what's the difference between Meg's QDetailer and QWax application ? both looks the same from the product description, although i feel that QD has more cleaning properties and QW has more protection properties..

so by right one should wash the car and apply QD first then QW ?
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Right on the functions and steps of the 2 products. But after a wash, you'd probably only need Quik Detailer for some spots that you missed during wash.

QUOTE(d_scientist @ Aug 30 2014, 12:47 PM)
thanks ninja bro... I'm going thru some pages in auto geek and saw permanon coating that i can DIY. any idea where i can find some? Maybe in penang.. .or maybe even other product! thanks
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Try Permanon Malaysia. Or Queensbay Mall Ace Hardware perhaps?

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QUOTE(LazyJin @ Aug 30 2014, 05:28 PM)
Right on the functions and steps of the 2 products. But after a wash, you'd probably only need Quik Detailer for some spots that you missed during wash.
Try Permanon Malaysia. Or Queensbay Mall Ace Hardware perhaps?
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bro, u from penang too? can u pls kindly share the type of products u use here in penang and where to get it?

thanks
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the toilet bowl brush usually is really quite stiff, i was hunting before and toilet bowl's one all out.
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Yes usually I will remove all these brushes from my consideration also. But this one I bought because when I touch it through the plastic wrap it feels soft, plus the price so cheap. so I give it a try.

Where do you get your Meguiar's Detailer line product?

Regarding the Ultramate DA, you cannot just turn on the machine without backing plate and pad, the vibration will be different, and is expected to be more severe in this case. So you must have the backing plate attached on, at least this is the minimum, if pad is not available. 5" backing plate in my opinion gives the best smoothness to the Ultramate compare to 6" plate.

I see you have two brochures of Meguiar's. One of them I also have which I took from Ace Hardware.
The other one with the car as cover, what is it? where do you get it?

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QUOTE(d_scientist @ Aug 30 2014, 10:41 AM)
Hi guys... disturb again. I got my new car but thinking of to coat or not to coat. If I don't coat. What is the next step I should take to take care of the paint.

Thank you again sifus
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1st step, regardless u coat or not, learn proper washing methods and techniques. Even if you coat, proper washing is THE MOST important step to get right.

QUOTE(calvin @ Aug 30 2014, 12:12 PM)
would like to ask.. what's the difference between Meg's QDetailer and QWax application ? both looks the same from the product description, although i feel that QD has more cleaning properties and QW has more protection properties.
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You've just answered your own question there.
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efaceninja Very nice haul there  brows.gif Is that the chamois leather drying cloth? Also, how much is the foam applicator pad?
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cool2.gif . that is a waffle weave MF cloth for drying. the foam pad is RM 4 per piece.

QUOTE(d_scientist @ Aug 30 2014, 12:47 PM)
thanks ninja bro... I'm going thru some pages in auto geek and saw permanon coating that i can DIY. any idea where i can find some? Maybe in penang.. .or maybe even other product! thanks
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no idea lols. i not yet looking into coating yet.

QUOTE(scoutfai @ Aug 30 2014, 06:59 PM)
Where do you get your Meguiar's Detailer line product?

Regarding the Ultramate DA, you cannot just turn on the machine without backing plate and pad, the vibration will be different, and is expected to be more severe in this case. So you must have the backing plate attached on, at least this is the minimum, if pad is not available. 5" backing plate in my opinion gives the best smoothness to the Ultramate compare to 6" plate.

I see you have two brochures of Meguiar's. One of them I also have which I took from Ace Hardware.
The other one with the car as cover, what is it? where do you get it?
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the brochure with car as cover is Meg's Professional line products brochure, meaning Detailers & Mirror Glaze one. i got my D155 from Hypercoat, and also the 2 brochures haha. icon_idea.gif
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1st step, regardless u coat or not, learn proper washing methods and techniques. Even if you coat, proper washing is THE MOST important step to get right.

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thanks bro

i've read a bit about 2 bucket system, MF mitts for washing, waffle cloth for drying and claying.

read only la. haven't gone out to buy yet. still trying to see what combination is good for newbie. easy to apply and all.

thanks again bro krismas! PG is harder to find products. mostly are Kit and soft99

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bro, u from penang too? can u pls kindly share the type of products u use here in penang and where to get it?

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From KL.

Like bro efaceninja mentioned, Aeon is having 20% off Meguiars. I think there's one in Penang. In fact, might be in Queensbay Mall. And while you're there, why not check out Ace Hardware?

If you're on a real tight budget and don't mind researching, go through the Automotive Garage in these forums, loads of members selling care care products.
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QUOTE(d_scientist @ Aug 30 2014, 10:34 PM)
thanks bro

i've read a bit about 2 bucket system, MF mitts for washing, waffle cloth for drying and claying.

read only la. haven't gone out to buy yet. still trying to see what combination is good for newbie. easy to apply and all.

thanks again bro krismas! PG is harder to find products. mostly are Kit and soft99

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psst psst, the meg 20% should be applicable to queensbay Aeon too. https://www.facebook.com/meguiarsmy/photos/...elevant_count=1. you can go grab the Meg's brilliant new car kit

for cheaper product, probably you can try out turtlewax? i personally never used it before la. for claying, cheapest one i believe is PG's wonder clay, get the no.2 one. that day i saw at AEON also they have PG clay kit, aka a bottle of PG Quick Detailer (as clay lube) and a box of clay for RM 39.90. KIT brand i personally don't really like it. as for soft99, my problem with soft99 is it just got wayyyyyyyy too much similar product choices there, and their product naming is super confusing, plus their product instruction/function explanation is mostly too generic or just plain Japanese words..

you can see my some of my newbie questions that i've asked before..
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QUOTE(efaceninja @ Aug 31 2014, 12:04 AM)
psst psst, the meg 20% should be applicable to queensbay Aeon too. https://www.facebook.com/meguiarsmy/photos/...elevant_count=1.  you can go grab the Meg's brilliant new car kit

for cheaper product, probably you can try out turtlewax? i personally never used it before la.  for claying, cheapest one i believe is PG's wonder clay, get the no.2 one.  that day i saw at AEON also they have PG clay kit, aka a bottle of PG Quick Detailer (as clay lube) and a box of clay for RM 39.90.  KIT brand i personally don't really like it. as for soft99, my problem with soft99 is it just got wayyyyyyyy too much similar product choices there, and their product naming is super confusing, plus their product instruction/function explanation is mostly too generic or just plain Japanese words..

you can see my some of my newbie questions that i've asked before..
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Thanks bro Ninja. Read thru your noobie post and found it really nice. Will start doing all these if i managr to get myself some products. Did u use any sort of coating as LSP?
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Hi guys , need your expertise , how can I remove this stain on my solid white paint ? urghh ... any products recommend to remove this ? Is this called watermark ?

Thanks

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QUOTE(d_scientist @ Aug 31 2014, 10:47 AM)
Thanks bro Ninja. Read thru your noobie post and found it really nice. Will start doing all these if i managr to get myself some products. Did u use any sort of coating as LSP?
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Nope not into coating yet. So far my LSP just Meg Ulti Liq Wax, plus ulti quik wax sometimes after wash.
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biotin Looks like watermarks with tons of dirt around it tongue.gif . Give it a good wash + clay should do the job. Or u could wash + use compound to buff it off ( Meg's ultimate compound works wonders). However, if its clear-coat etching from acid water .. u got to do paint correction rclxub.gif

Saw this video, and I will never achieve such a clean car by myself ( not enough energy sweat.gif )

120 hours.. 4 hours and i'm already dying from hand-compounding + window cleaning doh.gif



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Nope not into coating yet. So far my LSP just Meg Ulti Liq Wax, plus ulti quik wax sometimes after wash.
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20% memang ada. But no more combo lur. Dunno whattttt to buy so I got the meg ultimate quik detailer and a bottle of PG neutral car wash. Enuf ar for the time being?
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QUOTE(jedi_dc @ Aug 31 2014, 10:08 PM)
biotin Looks like watermarks with tons of dirt around it tongue.gif . Give it a good wash + clay should do the job. Or u could wash + use compound to buff it off ( Meg's ultimate compound works wonders). However, if its clear-coat etching from acid water .. u got to do paint correction  rclxub.gif 

Saw this video, and I will never achieve such a clean car by myself ( not enough energy  sweat.gif )

120 hours.. 4 hours and i'm already dying from hand-compounding + window cleaning  doh.gif


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Gulp.. Should i just clay myself , if its taking a lot of time, i guess no choice nees to send to detailing shoo to fix it.. Huhu
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biotin couldnt see clearly from your image to know what type of stains u had on your paint..

First we need to know your paint condition.. Then we need to know type of water spots (if that was water spots) that u had..

Type 1 water spots - u can use those water spot remover from the shelf (aeon/ace hardware/etc)

Type 2 water spots - u can use ultimate compound whether by hand or machine.. Use it wisely

Type 3 water spots - etching into clear coat and I'm not sure can be remove. I have one on my car paint..

Honestly for me claying wont remove water spots.. I have so many type 2 and claying wont remove them..

Remember. Using ultimate compound will cut your clear coat.. So if I were u, i will use something less abrasive first to remove the stain (since I dont know which type u had)

Previously I use UC to remove my type 2 ws and after doing some research, how I wish i use Duragloss Water Spots remover first before UC.. More effective and more safer to clear coat..

Choice is yours.. Patient.. Learn and decide.. Im still learning so hope if Im wrong, sifu please correct me ya..


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QUOTE(ZeroSP @ Aug 30 2014, 11:50 AM)
I see you put my old faithful to good use, well done my friend.

Do update me on the OHP performance.
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Yes master zerosp your old faithful friend had served me well.. Pair with his best friend opt double sided red foam = mama mia !!
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QUOTE(roxx @ Sep 1 2014, 01:52 AM)
biotin couldnt see clearly from your image to know what type of stains u had on your paint..

First we need to know your paint condition.. Then we need to know type of water spots (if that was water spots) that u had..

Type 1 water spots - u can use those water spot remover from the shelf (aeon/ace hardware/etc)

Type 2 water spots - u can use ultimate compound whether by hand or machine.. Use it wisely

Type 3 water spots - etching into clear coat and I'm not sure can be remove. I have one on my car paint..

Honestly for me claying wont remove water spots.. I have so many type 2 and claying wont remove them..

Remember. Using ultimate compound will cut your clear coat.. So if I were u, i will use something less abrasive first to remove the stain (since I dont know which type u had)

Previously I use UC to remove my type 2 ws and after doing some research, how I wish i use Duragloss Water Spots remover first before UC.. More effective and more safer to clear coat..

Choice is yours.. Patient.. Learn and decide.. Im still learning so hope if Im wrong, sifu please correct me ya..
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Or try CarPro Spotless Remover (or equivalent)

QUOTE(roxx @ Sep 1 2014, 02:05 AM)
Yes master zerosp your old faithful friend had served me well.. Pair with his best friend opt double sided red foam = mama mia !!
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Good... The OHP still good to go?
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Or try CarPro Spotless Remover (or equivalent)
Good... The OHP still good to go?
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Still good.. Eventhough water splashes (just like the foam pad is in wet mode) but still contains oil.. So i just buff it (the water splash) and its good to go.. Wipe with mf and done.. Gloss and slickness appear.. Booyahh..!!
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Hi guys

Just wanna share what i did

1. Loosen all the dirt on my new car (ald use 1 week without wash)

2. Start with 2 bucket system with some PG PH neutral car shampoo

3. After washing, dried the car with a waffle MF

4. Mist wit Meg's Ult Quik Detailer

(Didn't clay cos the surface very smooth still - but got some paint defects but no polish)

End effect that I got was this:

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So now I'm happy with the results of my morning, I want to find out what should i proceed to next?

my current considerations are:

1. Meg's wash & wax
2. Meg's Ult liquid wax
3. 3M or PG clay bar
4. Meg's PlastX - for tinted window
5. Meg's Ult Polish

Still do not know what to go for to clean dashboard and lelather seats.

Did also look at Osren and Duragloss products. Became too @.@


Any comments are welcomed. TQ guys
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Nice rclxms.gif

Haven't try Osren before. But I can recommend Duragloss.. Try before and amaze with it..

Currently using DG501. For me I'm satisfied with the beading and water repellent effect on my car.. But once applied it's hard to wash the foam pad.. doh.gif
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QUOTE(d_scientist @ Sep 1 2014, 04:25 PM)
So now I'm happy with the results of my morning, I want to find out what should i proceed to next?

my current considerations are:

1. Meg's wash & wax
2. Meg's Ult liquid wax
3. 3M or PG clay bar
4. Meg's PlastX - for tinted window
5. Meg's Ult Polish

Still do not know what to go for to clean dashboard and lelather seats.

Did also look at Osren and Duragloss products. Became too @.@
Any comments are welcomed. TQ guys
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not bad. not bad. and your consideration 1-5
1. Meg UWW for me is quite good. I used PG's concentrated shampoo before, and also PG's Wash & Wax Polymer before. i can tell you the PG Wash & Wax will give you nice gloss/shine right after you wash your car compared to just the PG shampoo. the Meg UWW shine even better! so for me, i would go with Meg UWW. or you can try other brand's wash & wax.

2. Meg ULW for me is quite superb. the price is not superb though. i never use other waxes before so i can't really compare. the only one i used before is the KIT Metallic wax and it is just mehhh. but then, i think very very very important is you MUST clay your car before waxing it (even your new ride)

3. 3M bar where you find it? i last time when searching online, read that lots of china fake 3M clay bar (very cheap) on market, not sure if its true. i would rather stick with PG claybar rather than risk buying fake clay bar (and rub the fake thing on your beloved car!). and as for clay lube, i just use shampoo water mix (before). you can use your PG Shampoo, fill some into a generic spray bottle, and spray away. OR, just use clean MF cloth/wash mitt as 'lube dispenser' lols. Sifu here thought me before the UQD that you have now is not really suitable as clay lube.

4. never used this before. but what do you mean PlasticX for tinted window? window is glass no?

5. UP. i have this as well. hmmm so far used once, by hand. not really sure if it is effective to use by hand though. if apply by machine the effect should be great. but since your car is new, i think its okay. the cutting power is really minimum so i think its safe for your new ride

dashboard & leather seats i would use APC (any brand), spray wipe (or brush) and clean. i just bought Osren's for this. then apply those dashboard dressing product for the shine. i'm using meg ulti protectant.

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Guys for cleaning my wheel wells i am thinking of spraying in APC+ Megs and let it sit for few seconds then hose it down with pressure jet. And dress with meguairs all season shine. what do you think? my car on the rear has felt like wheel wells (like fabric/velcro)
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QUOTE(d_scientist @ Sep 1 2014, 04:25 PM)
Hi guys

Just wanna share what i did

1. Loosen all the dirt on my new car (ald use 1 week without wash)

2. Start with 2 bucket system with some PG PH neutral car shampoo

3. After washing, dried the car with a waffle MF

4. Mist wit Meg's Ult Quik Detailer

(Didn't clay cos the surface very smooth still - but got some paint defects but no polish)

End effect that I got was this:

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So now I'm happy with the results of my morning, I want to find out what should i proceed to next?

my current considerations are:

1. Meg's wash & wax
2. Meg's Ult liquid wax
3. 3M or PG clay bar
4. Meg's PlastX - for tinted window
5. Meg's Ult Polish

Still do not know what to go for to clean dashboard and lelather seats.

Did also look at Osren and Duragloss products. Became too @.@
Any comments are welcomed. TQ guys
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One step at a time. Clay bar you can do fine with PG.

Duragloss Aquawax is good.

Meg's wise I cannot recommend as I don't use them. But shampoo why not you try out our Optimum one?



And by the way, 2 years of Opti Glass Pro holding.



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did some shopping today... biggrin.gif  tongue.gif  blush.gif
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i got chance to try out a bit on the ultramate machine while i was there at Osren.  no back plate, just plug in electric and switch on, wanna feel the vibration.  really quite vibrating lols.  and also went on to touch all their MF cloths there to feel it. i would say they're all very plush, especially the more expensive one.  its definitely better than PG's cloth.  The cheapest Osren MF feels already better than the one from Daiso, so i now would get Osren's one if i'm getting new MF cloth.  now i dunno where to put (rate) the MF that comes with Meg ULW..  oh i also saw there seems to be some new products in their show room, blue labelling one, not seen on their website yet.  i think its a one-step compound/polish/wax product.

AEON Wangsa maju still got Meg's product on 20% discount, i got myself Meg endurance gel & glass cleaner as above.  what i saw there still got UC, UP, UQD, UQL, one last UPW.  no more ULW. see picture and decide if you want to grab'em
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also this aeon got quite some 3M's spray type product, anyone here used before?
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oh, also wanted to show what happens to my side mirror after a long distance drive at night time.  i hate bugs.
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QUOTE(d_scientist @ Aug 30 2014, 10:34 PM)
thanks bro

i've read a bit about 2 bucket system, MF mitts for washing, waffle cloth for drying and claying.

read only la. haven't gone out to buy yet. still trying to see what combination is good for newbie. easy to apply and all.

thanks again bro krismas! PG is harder to find products. mostly are Kit and soft99

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QUOTE(LazyJin @ Aug 30 2014, 11:09 PM)
From KL.

Like bro efaceninja mentioned, Aeon is having 20% off Meguiars. I think there's one in Penang. In fact, might be in Queensbay Mall. And while you're there, why not check out Ace Hardware?

If you're on a real tight budget and don't mind researching, go through the Automotive Garage in these forums, loads of members selling care care products.
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Im from Penang but i just move to KL not long for work, u can get Meguair's from all the Parkson Outlet & Ace Hardware at Queensbay. Previously I also bought my Meguair's from SPICE Arena which is PISA, there is a car wash that uses Meguair's and they are selling products as well, but Im not sure after the renovation are they still going on their business or not. Other then that there some quiet supplier that supply some factory products for paint shop and I used some of the gallon wax previously.


QUOTE(d_scientist @ Sep 1 2014, 04:25 PM)
Hi guys

Just wanna share what i did

1. Loosen all the dirt on my new car (ald use 1 week without wash)

2. Start with 2 bucket system with some PG PH neutral car shampoo

3. After washing, dried the car with a waffle MF

4. Mist wit Meg's Ult Quik Detailer

(Didn't clay cos the surface very smooth still - but got some paint defects but no polish)

End effect that I got was this:

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So now I'm happy with the results of my morning, I want to find out what should i proceed to next?

my current considerations are:

1. Meg's wash & wax
2. Meg's Ult liquid wax
3. 3M or PG clay bar
4. Meg's PlastX - for tinted window
5. Meg's Ult Polish

Still do not know what to go for to clean dashboard and lelather seats.

Did also look at Osren and Duragloss products. Became too @.@
Any comments are welcomed. TQ guys
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Thats a nice tuch!! notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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One step at a time. Clay bar you can do fine with PG.

Duragloss Aquawax is good.

Meg's wise I cannot recommend as I don't use them. But shampoo why not you try out our Optimum one?
And by the way, 2 years of Opti Glass Pro holding.


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Its dangerous to shoot video while driving regardless what speed.

Also need to reach 90km/h above only see the water beading ? If 60-80kmh can or not ? rolleyes.gif
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Just want to share my experience and from this detailing session I've learned a lot..

My friend wanted me to help restore his paint on Chevy Aveo..

Upon Arrival

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Left right and rear panel still okay. But need to do paint correction to enhance glossiness. Then I was so shocked to see this..

This is where things started to get interesting. Look at the front bonnet. Can you see anything?

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Didn't know the color on front bonnet mati already (oxidation)

More

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No gloss at all

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Masking to see the severity of the paint and for testing

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(Forgot to take 'after' image for this test doh.gif )

To be continued







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Continued from above..

Session starts with washing using megs GCWW + OPC + wash mitt + 2 bucket system + GG and clay using PG no 2. To my shock again, during claying process no contamination pick up on the front bonnet. I was like rclxub.gif

Before - Close Up but no reflection at all

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After several pass with UC and makita + orange pad (50/50)

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My left hand is missing..!!!

Continue to polish the front bonnet and still unable to remove the oxidation on the passenger side. I was so frustrated and finally took out OPT double sided wool pad + UC and begin to work. War started between me and the chevy. Yeahhhh

After

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Driver side

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Passenger side

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Driver's door

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Passenger's door

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Rear spoiler before

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After

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Okay la for newbie like me lol

Saja letak logo kereta.. Later expert ady can letak logo Ferrari pulak sweat.gif

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Lesson learned from this detailing session and I hope I will not repeat the same mistakes again !!

- Not all paint carries the same type of oxidation - I thought all oxidation is the same. Just apply UC and all done. It took me 2 days just to correct the front bonnet with 1 full bottle of UC doh.gif

- Need to use correct pair for correction - I was using CCS light cutting orange pad when I should use wool pad or at least yellow pad. This wrong combination cost me time wasted and product wasted. Only started to use wool pad on 2nd day doh.gif

- Less pass per section - I should work at least 6 to 8 passes instead I only do 3 to 4 passes for each section. Then I top up UC on pad and continue to polish on the same section. This created more product applied thus dryness created and hard to wipe off (left thick residue on the bonnet and pad)

- I only use speed 2 for cutting doh.gif

- Did not overlap on each section - created boxes. Aiyohhh

- I have wasted so many things including my cuti day.. doh.gif doh.gif

So in the end, I use OPT wool pad + UC (2nd bottle) and work on each section until I can see glossiness on the paint. This time I do 8 to 10 passes at least with speed 3 to 4 for cutting and finally I was able to remove the oxidation. flex.gif

both door panel and rear using OHP + Opt red foam and 5'5 / 3' pad for curve and small area

*Actually to be honest, I was nervous because this is my first time detailing others car and not my own.. lol

Any comments and feedback appreciated. Thanks notworthy.gif

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Lesson learned from this detailing session and I hope I will not repeat the same mistakes again !!
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wow very nice~~! rclxms.gif the front bonnet from 'matte' till become gloss and shiny again! you used 2 days ah? wow, so much time even for rotary? i see that you mentioned you used wrong product/pad combo for the oxidized paint. 1 UC completely on the front bonnet (OUCH RM 70 moneyflies.gif) bookmarking this page because of this lesson learnt info notworthy.gif

the front bonnet did you finish off another pass with OHP too (like what you did on door panel and rear)? btw is OHP stands for Optimum Hyper Polish? you seal of with any LSP? The rear spoiler feels like can be improved more? i mean, seeing from the picture la and you got a rotary man. anyway, good detailing session! rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(efaceninja @ Sep 2 2014, 02:03 PM)
wow very nice~~! rclxms.gif  the front bonnet from 'matte' till become gloss and shiny again!  you used 2 days ah? wow, so much time even for rotary?  i see that you mentioned you used wrong product/pad combo for the oxidized paint. 1 UC completely on the front bonnet (OUCH RM 70 moneyflies.gif) bookmarking this page because of this lesson learnt info notworthy.gif

the front bonnet did you finish off another pass with OHP too (like what you did on door panel and rear)?  btw is OHP stands for Optimum Hyper Polish?  you seal of with any LSP?  The rear spoiler feels like can be improved more? i mean, seeing from the picture la and you got a rotary man.  anyway, good detailing session!  rclxms.gif
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Thanks bro notworthy.gif

Yes. I used my 2 precious days working on it. By right I should use wool pad at first day but dunno why I use light orange cutting pad..

Even though using rotary, I used wrong technique by doing less pass instead of 6/8 or 8/10 or maybe more passes for heavy (or extreme?) oxidation. Plus with wrong combination use - took me 2 days to complete.

Oh another thing I forgot to add - I just use speed 1 to spread and speed 2 to cut whereas I should use speed 3 (that day I use until speed 4) to cut heavy oxidation (my personal preference only ya)

On 2nd day, I realized if I keep using this technique I will end up weeks before able to restore the paint. So I took wool pad, buy another UC (was thinking to buy rubbing compound), do more passes with speed 3 to 4 and voila.

*This it the lesson I've learned for future and I will use this experienced to improve my skills.. Booyahhh..!!*

On front bonnet and roof I finish off with DG501. Door and rear I use OHP only (1 step) and yes it is Optimum Hyper Spray. Was thinking to add Enviroshield but 501 & OHP has good water sheeting / beading already thumbup.gif

Actually the rear spoiler can be restore further but my friend want it that look rclxub.gif he said like 'matte' look.. doh.gif

Thanks bro for your comment notworthy.gif
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Its dangerous to shoot video while driving regardless what speed.

Also need to reach 90km/h above only see the water beading ? If 60-80kmh can or not ?  rolleyes.gif
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I know it is dangerous, I don't have a holder.

But claiming that it only beads away at that speed just because I filmed it that time? Opti Glass Pro beads around 50-70 km/h depending on the direction where the rain hits you, as you may experienced. Next time if got chance I will use a holder and record from standstill.

It is at that speed in this video because I am on MEX, and it just suddenly rain all hell once I cross that certain border, and before I approach there I still thinking why the upcoming road like so blur and hazy, mana tau is heavy rain.

I can do a free windscreen coat for you, in exchange for a review, since most of the cars I coated are not detailing enthusiast, they don't tell me nothing.

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I know it is dangerous, I don't have a holder.

But claiming that it only beads away at that speed just because I filmed it that time? Opti Glass Pro beads around 50-70 km/h depending on the direction where the rain hits you, as you may experienced. Next time if got chance I will use a holder and record from standstill.

It is at that speed in this video because I am on MEX, and it just suddenly rain all hell once I cross that certain border, and before I approach there I still thinking why the upcoming road like so blur and hazy, mana tau is heavy rain.

I can do a free windscreen coat for you, in exchange for a review, since most of the cars I coated are not detailing enthusiast, they don't tell me nothing.
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Free windscreen coat? I'll do review anytime master..

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QUOTE(efaceninja @ Aug 31 2014, 12:04 AM)
as for soft99, my problem with soft99 is it just got wayyyyyyyy too much similar product choices there, and their product naming is super confusing, plus their product instruction/function explanation is mostly too generic or just plain Japanese words..

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and i happen to be able to read some japanese tongue.gif
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QUOTE(g88 @ Sep 2 2014, 11:02 AM)
Its dangerous to shoot video while driving regardless what speed.

Also need to reach 90km/h above only see the water beading ? If 60-80kmh can or not ?  rolleyes.gif
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maybe got mount ma... i got a lot of videos are really extreme speeds anyways lol
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Thank You master..  notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(g88 @ Sep 2 2014, 11:02 AM)
Its dangerous to shoot video while driving regardless what speed.

Also need to reach 90km/h above only see the water beading ? If 60-80kmh can or not ?  rolleyes.gif
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Actually I have tested 2 types. CarPro FlyBy30 and Gtechniq G1.

Both can work around 80km/hr. But I think there is a trick to get all these glass coating working....

1. Would be the windscreen, the more tilt it is the better.
2. Wind factor. The stronger the wind the water can repel faster at lower speed.

That's just my observation.

So you should notice that most of this windscreen coating youtube video, there is no car at least 50m in front of the car.
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QUOTE(kalvinkhoo @ Sep 2 2014, 09:51 AM)
Thats alot of product shooping.....  shocking.gif
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biggrin.gif cool2.gif cool2.gif i like the Meg's recyclable bag that they gave. i believe those gallon & 4L products can last me a long long time and therefore its cheaper for me in the long run, especially the Osren's one. just pop opened D155 yesterday, i can't say i appreciate the smell at all lols.

and look at my self-printed product label.. hehe..
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QUOTE(ZeroSP @ Sep 2 2014, 06:11 AM)
And by the way, 2 years of Opti Glass Pro holding.
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I know it is dangerous, I don't have a holder.

But claiming that it only beads away at that speed just because I filmed it that time? Opti Glass Pro beads around 50-70 km/h depending on the direction where the rain hits you, as you may experienced. Next time if got chance I will use a holder and record from standstill.

It is at that speed in this video because I am on MEX, and it just suddenly rain all hell once I cross that certain border, and before I approach there I still thinking why the upcoming road like so blur and hazy, mana tau is heavy rain.

I can do a free windscreen coat for you, in exchange for a review, since most of the cars I coated are not detailing enthusiast, they don't tell me nothing.
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if it beads like that at 90km/h AFTER 2 yrs of application, i think it is pretty awesome man? in between the 2 years, no reapply anything? how's the maintenance required?? i mean, i only have my experience on DuraZ. first week apply, first rain, it start to beads at about 70 km/h like that. after a few wiper usage, a few weeks, a few more rains, it start to beads at 80, then 90, and slowly diminish after roughly about 2-3 weeks/rain lols.
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Guys for cleaning my wheel wells i am thinking of spraying in APC+ Megs and let it sit for few seconds then hose it down with pressure jet. And dress with meguairs all season shine. what do you think? my car on the rear has felt like wheel wells (like fabric/velcro)
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i think that's pretty alright. give it a few brush work should be better i guess.
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Free windscreen coat? I'll do review anytime master..

lol joking only haa..  notworthy.gif
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Why not?

QUOTE(efaceninja @ Sep 2 2014, 07:29 PM)
biggrin.gif  cool2.gif  cool2.gif  i like the Meg's recyclable bag that they gave.  i believe those gallon & 4L products can last me a long long time and therefore its cheaper for me in the long run, especially the Osren's one.  just pop opened D155 yesterday, i can't say i appreciate the smell at all lols.

and look at my self-printed product label.. hehe..
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if it beads like that at 90km/h AFTER 2 yrs of application, i think it is pretty awesome man?  in between the 2 years, no reapply anything? how's the maintenance required??  i mean, i only have my experience on DuraZ.  first week apply, first rain, it start to beads at about 70 km/h like that. after a few wiper usage, a few weeks, a few more rains, it start to beads at 80, then 90, and slowly diminish after roughly about 2-3 weeks/rain lols.
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No reapply anything... Just weekly wash with either ONR or Opti Car Shampoo. Of course I do further wipe down the all windows/windscreen with ONR QD since I wanted streak free. Cause usually when you dry your car you just go over like 95%, then you only go back to touch up later on.
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QUOTE(efaceninja @ Sep 2 2014, 07:29 PM)
biggrin.gif  cool2.gif  cool2.gif  i like the Meg's recyclable bag that they gave.  i believe those gallon & 4L products can last me a long long time and therefore its cheaper for me in the long run, especially the Osren's one.  just pop opened D155 yesterday, i can't say i appreciate the smell at all lols.

and look at my self-printed product label.. hehe..
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if it beads like that at 90km/h AFTER 2 yrs of application, i think it is pretty awesome man?  in between the 2 years, no reapply anything? how's the maintenance required??  i mean, i only have my experience on DuraZ.  first week apply, first rain, it start to beads at about 70 km/h like that. after a few wiper usage, a few weeks, a few more rains, it start to beads at 80, then 90, and slowly diminish after roughly about 2-3 weeks/rain lols.
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Bro where do you get the blue bottle?

Do you stay somewhere around Cheras area?

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Why not?
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Tell me time and date master.. drool.gif drool.gif
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Bro where do you get the blue bottle?

Do you stay somewhere around Cheras area?
Tell me time and date master..  drool.gif  drool.gif
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QUOTE(efaceninja @ Sep 2 2014, 07:32 PM)
i think that's pretty alright.  give it a few brush work should be better i guess.
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I read that apc+ is stronger than apc but doesn't have much foam. Any examples what component suitable for apc and apc+? Also to spray on the wheel wheels I can do it using a bottle nozzle? As I don't have a lance gun or so sad.gif

Also hypercoat only sell them in bulk?

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QUOTE(nVidiaFX @ Sep 2 2014, 11:44 PM)
I read that apc+ is stronger than apc but doesn't have much foam. Any examples what component suitable for apc and apc+? Also to spray on the wheel wheels I can do it using a bottle nozzle? As I don't have a lance gun or so sad.gif

Also hypercoat only sell them in bulk?
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Checked a couple of months ago with Hypercoat Malaysia and they never brought in the APC Plus. Also, it is now only available in 5 gal or 55 gal sizes in the US, they discontinued the 1 gal size.

Either APC or APC+ are safe on wheel wells. I use a small bucket with diluted APC and my wheel brushes for wheels and wheel wells. You can use it with a sprayer as well.

However, a degreaser may be more effective at cleaning wheel wells.
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To all sifus and masters.. Need your kind advise..

Previously I used too many dg501 on my white pad (lesson learned). End up it's very hard to clean the pad (talk about durability eh?)

Try using dg UO (degreaser) also unable to remove the oils resides on the pad.. The chemical unable to 'penetrate' into it (hmmm....)

Since its hard to find pad cleaner in our local store, I used dishwashing soap (sunlight) and to my shock, it removes the oils but still left a bit green blue-ish color which ok for me..

Now the millionaire question.. Can I use the pad again? I scared that the dishwashing detergent still left on the pad thus will affect my next polishing process.. I have rinsed thoroughly but still had that bumpy feelings about it.. Please help. Thanks
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Bro where do you get the blue bottle?

Do you stay somewhere around Cheras area?
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Nope not around cheras. The blue one i got from Osren recently.
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No abrasive in dishwashing detergent so you should be ok tongue.gif
hehehe....shouldn't cause any problem la. Used to use dishwashing detergent for quite some times and so far my polishing pads are still sound.

A little suggestion for cleaning those difficult-to-clean sealants/AIO/glaze from pads, etc. - Dawn Power Dissolver. You can use it straight but I've been using it at 1:1 dilution and it still work (especially in this case cuz DPD is a little on the expensive side). Spray liberally onto the face of pad, leave it for NO MORE than 1/2 hour to let it work and soak into the pad, squeeze and agitate with your finger. Blast the pad with a pressure washer, if you don't have one use your garden hose at fan setting or strong jet, or just squeeze and rinse under the kitchen tap. So far DPD had never failed me. Just take note NEVER leave it to soak overnight or for more than an hour cuz it would deteriorate the foam/sponge. Oh...another thing...DPD would require much more rinsing as compared to dish washing liquid so...well...just take note of it la.

This pad (Megs Finishing pad) was loaded with residue of Megs M21 (also some dirt) and M21 (a little purplish in colour) is notorious in staining pads and difficult to clean. I've already used the pad for some times before decided to 'experiment' with DPD. And believe me when I said it's even more difficult to clean M21 off the pads as compared to DG501.

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soft99 offers pretty decent budget clays.

and i happen to be able to read some japanese tongue.gif
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QUOTE(efaceninja @ Sep 2 2014, 07:29 PM)
biggrin.gif  cool2.gif  cool2.gif   i like the Meg's recyclable bag that they gave.  i believe those gallon & 4L products can last me a long long time and therefore its cheaper for me in the long run, especially the Osren's one.  just pop opened D155 yesterday, i can't say i appreciate the smell at all lols.

and look at my self-printed product label.. hehe..
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How much u got it fo for the gallons?Still scared to buy those gallons! laugh.gif laugh.gif

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QUOTE(efaceninja @ Sep 2 2014, 07:29 PM)
biggrin.gif  cool2.gif  cool2.gif  i like the Meg's recyclable bag that they gave.  i believe those gallon & 4L products can last me a long long time and therefore its cheaper for me in the long run, especially the Osren's one.  just pop opened D155 yesterday, i can't say i appreciate the smell at all lols.

and look at my self-printed product label.. hehe..
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drool.gif bolded part drool.gif
if it beads like that at 90km/h AFTER 2 yrs of application, i think it is pretty awesome man?  in between the 2 years, no reapply anything? how's the maintenance required??  i mean, i only have my experience on DuraZ.  first week apply, first rain, it start to beads at about 70 km/h like that. after a few wiper usage, a few weeks, a few more rains, it start to beads at 80, then 90, and slowly diminish after roughly about 2-3 weeks/rain lols.
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The DIY product label printing is a real nice touch rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Sep 3 2014, 09:07 AM)
No abrasive in dishwashing detergent so you should be ok tongue.gif
hehehe....shouldn't cause any problem la. Used to use dishwashing detergent for quite some times and so far my polishing pads are still sound.

A little suggestion for cleaning those difficult-to-clean sealants/AIO/glaze from pads, etc. - Dawn Power Dissolver. You can use it straight but I've been using it at 1:1 dilution and it still work (especially in this case cuz DPD is a little on the expensive side). Spray liberally onto the face of pad, leave it for NO MORE than 1/2 hour to let it work and soak into the pad, squeeze and agitate with your finger. Blast the pad with a pressure washer, if you don't have one use your garden hose at fan setting or strong jet, or just squeeze and rinse under the kitchen tap. So far DPD had never failed me. Just take note NEVER leave it to soak overnight or for more than an hour cuz it would deteriorate the foam/sponge. Oh...another thing...DPD would require much more rinsing as compared to dish washing liquid so...well...just take note of it la.

This pad (Megs Finishing pad) was loaded with residue of Megs M21 (also some dirt) and M21 (a little purplish in colour) is notorious in staining pads and difficult to clean. I've already used the pad for some times before decided to 'experiment' with DPD. And believe me when I said it's even more difficult to clean M21 off the pads as compared to DG501.

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That is a huge difference right there. I normally use Lux soap bar to wash my pad ph34r.gif Not sure will damage it or not in the long run.

For tough stain, I use Meg's APC 10:1 or OPC 3:1, works most of the time. Just afraid those strong cleaner will deteriorate the velcro glue in the pad.

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Thank You master jedi.. Eh silap.. Master krismas, actually wanted to buy DPD but not available at ace hardware.. Since I need to use my pad badly, i wash it using dishwashing soap..

End up I takut want to use the pad.. Lol

Anyway Thanks a lot master.. Now I no scared ady..
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until today i havent seen any clay from Soft99 yet!  doh.gif
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QUOTE(thom_chai @ Sep 3 2014, 10:23 AM)
That is a huge difference right there. I normally use Lux soap bar to wash my pad ph34r.gif Not sure will damage it or not in the long run.

For tough stain, I use Meg's APC 10:1 or OPC 3:1, works most of the time. Just afraid those strong cleaner will deteriorate the velcro glue in the pad.
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I tell you man...I've tried *almost* everything in my arsenal for cleaning the M21/DG501 (including DP Pad Rejuvenator - sample sachet from one of my AG purchases)...nothing can clean the pads as good as DPD. And (knock wood) so far I haven't had any of my pads velcro coming of yet. But then, I only use DPD for Sealant/AIO/glaze only la....for polishes and compounds normal dishwashing detergent more than good enough already. And nowadays, more and more 'water-based' compounds/polishes are around and plain water can clean them already....

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Thank You master jedi.. Eh silap.. Master krismas, actually wanted to buy DPD but not available at ace hardware.. Since I need to use my pad badly, i wash it using dishwashing soap..
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Eh? That's weird...ACE never failed me yet if I was looking for DPD....
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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Sep 3 2014, 11:35 AM)
for polishes and compounds normal dishwashing detergent more than good enough already. And nowadays, more and more 'water-based' compounds/polishes are around and plain water can clean them already....
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i actually only used water for my pads... i don't reckon M101/UP being water based? maybe i tend to clean them early before they cake up too bad... or i work on the panels a lot more hence the products aren't leftover too much on the pads XD
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 3 2014, 12:08 PM)
i actually only used water for my pads... i don't reckon M101/UP being water based?
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Yes, they are. Try using Menz (85rd) or Optimum (FP) or Megs (older M80/M82) finishing polishes then you'd see the differences. The 'oil based' polishes are generally grey-ish in colour....
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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Sep 3 2014, 12:21 PM)
Yes, they are. Try using Menz (85rd) or Optimum (FP) or Megs (older M80/M82) finishing polishes then you'd see the differences. The 'oil based' polishes are generally grey-ish in colour....
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oooo awesome then! water enough hehe

what about sonax perfect finish that i've been wanting to get forever?
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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Sep 3 2014, 11:35 AM)
I tell you man...I've tried *almost* everything in my arsenal for cleaning the M21/DG501 (including DP Pad Rejuvenator - sample sachet from one of my AG purchases)...nothing can clean the pads as good as DPD. And (knock wood) so far I haven't had any of my pads velcro coming of yet. But then, I only use DPD for Sealant/AIO/glaze only la....for polishes and compounds normal dishwashing detergent more than good enough already. And nowadays, more and more 'water-based' compounds/polishes are around and plain water can clean them already....
Eh? That's weird...ACE never failed me yet if I was looking for DPD....
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Yes. Wento to Ace Hardware but I only see Dawn 'Original' and Dawn yellow color 'citrus'. Maybe I didn't check properly..

Never bother to ask the staff there since most of them 'foreigners' if you know what I mean.. There's 1 time I ask for 'Meguiar's' they show me cable wire rclxub.gif
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Another test sharing with you guys..

This morning nothing to do (wanted to polish but scared with pad soaked in dishwashing soap) so I do some test on beading and durability of DG EnviroShield.

I have brake dust problem and it was very hard to remove it. Thus I want to put this to end.

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Heavy brake dust..!!

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Product I used for cleaning (OPC 1:3 & DG461 UO) with cheapo brush..

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After mandi the wheels with OPC and DG461

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Then I clay the rims (what??)

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(next time cannot use this on body paint) doh.gif

Once completed, It's time for EnviroShield..!! (Can you see illuminati's logo?) sweat.gif

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After wipe on wipe off, wheels become more glossier (from my naked eyes can see the glossiness)

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After 1 hour - Water beading test

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So we shall see in a couple of days whether I'm able to remove the brake dust easily or not. thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 3 2014, 12:24 PM)
what about sonax perfect finish that i've been wanting to get forever?
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Yup. Easy to clean too....just remember to wash it straight away after use and don't wait until the next day or your next 'free time'... whistling.gif

roxx...ooppss...forgot (or rather didn't have the time to tell you that day) about application method. For me, I prefer to wipe on with a foam pad...leave it for a little while (like 15mins or so) then apply again adding only a teeny weeny bit of product on the foam pad and keep on wiping until the surface clears up. I found that the WOWA (Wipe On Walk Away) method didn't work as good. Maybe you can try it next time ya....
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Yup. Easy to clean too....just remember to wash it straight away after use and don't wait until the next day or your next 'free time'... whistling.gif 
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damn! LOL! (thankfully i actually rajin clean the pads right after usages lol)
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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Sep 3 2014, 03:14 PM)
Yup. Easy to clean too....just remember to wash it straight away after use and don't wait until the next day or your next 'free time'... whistling.gif 

roxx...ooppss...forgot (or rather didn't have the time to tell you that day) about application method. For me, I prefer to wipe on with a foam pad...leave it for a little while (like 15mins or so) then apply again adding only a teeny weeny bit of product on the foam pad and keep on wiping until the surface clears up. I found that the WOWA (Wipe On Walk Away) method didn't work as good. Maybe you can try it next time ya....
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Alamak.. Hahaha nevermind.. That day also both of us in rush so no time to ask or explain further..

Yes I use foam pad. At first was thinking to use the MF applicator but thinking to keep those..

Ok will try next time.. thumbup.gif
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RM 146 for the D155. Osren's one is even even cheaper! RM 38 for 4L~! imagine the Meg's APC & SD cost around RM 130 ish.
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keeping note keeping note.. for my future reference if needed.. pad cleaning agent/product.
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QUOTE(efaceninja @ Sep 3 2014, 07:08 PM)
RM 146 for the D155.  Osren's one is even even cheaper! RM 38 for 4L~!  imagine the Meg's APC & SD cost around RM 130 ish.
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Not trying to undermine or overhype any products here, but if you want to effectively compare the costs, you should consider the cost of product used PER SESSION/application.

For example, lets jut take the two products that you mentioned above,
Osren Multi Clean is RM40 for 4L = RM10/L
megs APC is RM140 for 1gal
OMC strongest recommended dilution is neat/straight up (pls correct me if i'm wrong)
APC max reco dilution is 1:4 so for RM140 you'd get 5 gals = RM7.40/L

See...the above is just an example. If my assumptions are correct and also assuming the two products performance is the same at strongest dilution, then APC looks to be cheaper.

Just an example ya...
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Not trying to undermine or overhype any products here, but if you want to effectively compare the costs, you should consider the cost of product used PER SESSION/application.

For example, lets jut take the two products that you mentioned above,
Osren Multi Clean is RM40 for 4L = RM10/L
megs APC is RM140 for 1gal
OMC strongest recommended dilution is neat/straight up (pls correct me if i'm wrong)
APC max reco dilution is 1:4 so for RM140 you'd get 5 gals = RM7.40/L

See...the above is just an example. If my assumptions are correct and also assuming the two products performance is the same at strongest dilution, then APC looks to be cheaper.

Just an example ya...
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oppsss, you're right there. i didn't think that deep ma master. yup osren multi clean / fabric cleaner is RTU type no dilution recommended. but the Degreaser FX does require 1:4 dilution for normal use, 1:1 for strong use la. well i think we need to take into consideration of the effectiveness of the products which is even more difficult to quantify and compare, can only based on experience lols.

need to make a new excel file for calculating all these lols. thanks sifu for the insight & reminder notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
btw, latest price (last week) Meg D101 APC should be RM 121 if i remember correctly.

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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Sep 3 2014, 07:38 PM)
Not trying to undermine or overhype any products here, but if you want to effectively compare the costs, you should consider the cost of product used PER SESSION/application.

For example, lets jut take the two products that you mentioned above,
Osren Multi Clean is RM40 for 4L = RM10/L
megs APC is RM140 for 1gal
OMC strongest recommended dilution is neat/straight up (pls correct me if i'm wrong)
APC max reco dilution is 1:4 so for RM140 you'd get 5 gals = RM7.40/L

See...the above is just an example. If my assumptions are correct and also assuming the two products performance is the same at strongest dilution, then APC looks to be cheaper.

Just an example ya...
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highly agree on this thumbup.gif

i think i run my APC on 1:10 and it's strong enough for me.
anything stronger i got my IPA/degreaser/wheel cleaners/actual solvents tongue.gif
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QUOTE(efaceninja @ Sep 3 2014, 07:53 PM)
oppsss, you're right there. i didn't think that deep ma master. yup osren multi clean / fabric cleaner is RTU type no dilution recommended.  but the Degreaser FX does require 1:4 dilution for normal use, 1:1 for strong use la.  well i think we need to take into consideration of the effectiveness of the products which is even more difficult to quantify and compare, can only based on experience lols.

need to make a new excel file for calculating all these lols.  thanks sifu for the insight & reminder notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
btw, latest price (last week) Meg D101 APC should be RM 121 if i remember correctly.
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Value Management....that's what i call it. And yeah, like I said, lots of assumptions involved and, also like you said, some can't be easily quantify, personal preferences included.
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Ok, new question.. i watched quite a lot of video and some articles on engine bay cleaning. They always pointed out "cover the electric parts, cover the sensitive part, protect the electronics"... well.. what exactly are those electronic parts that we should pay attention to??

So far from what I've understand, the distribution box and air filter/intake inlet need to cover up. And btw distribution box is the one with 4 wires leading up to spark plug? Always hear "cover up electronics parts" but the problem is, i can't confidently recognize those electronic parts (yet). So need sifus advice.. hopefully can list out the component name that should be covered up, and i try to research what are those and how does it looks like and where is it located in my car.
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Ok, new question.. i watched quite a lot of video and some articles on engine bay cleaning.  They always pointed out "cover the electric parts, cover the sensitive part, protect the electronics"... well.. what exactly are those electronic parts that we should pay attention to??

So far from what I've understand, the distribution box and air filter/intake inlet need to cover up. And btw distribution box is the one with 4 wires leading up to spark plug? Always hear "cover up electronics parts" but the problem is, i can't confidently recognize those electronic parts (yet). So need sifus advice.. hopefully can list out the component name that should be covered up, and i try to research what are those and how does it looks like and where is it located in my car.
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what car are you driving. Post a photo of your engine back here. Many sifu will guide you.
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Just use common sense. For a start, just cover those parts/areas that you think don't like water, eg. exposed wire connectors/junctions, any 'boxes' that you think water can seep in and contain electronics/electrical stuffs, etc. (oh...and if water can go inside the air intake then you have a much bigger things to worry about mate tongue.gif ). And if you're using a degreaser, you'd also need to cover those moving parts that require grease to work properly.

Time to learn about your engine assembly and whats inside the engine compartment and also how they work.... rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(g88 @ Sep 4 2014, 03:45 PM)
what car are you driving. Post a photo of your engine back here. Many sifu will guide you.
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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Sep 4 2014, 04:00 PM)
Just use common sense. For a start, just cover those parts/areas that you think don't like water, eg. exposed wire connectors/junctions, any 'boxes' that you think water can seep in and contain electronics/electrical stuffs, etc. (oh...and if water can go inside the air intake then you have a much bigger things to worry about mate tongue.gif ). And if you're using a degreaser, you'd also need to cover those moving parts that require grease to work properly.

Time to learn about your engine assembly and whats inside the engine compartment and also how they work.... rolleyes.gif
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Lols if i use my common sense, i would've covered almost all the things in engine bay and ended up washing the plastic bags (which is covering the whole engine bay).. because my commom sense tells me "DON'T SPRAY WATER INTO/ONTO ENGINE! ITS DANGEROUS!"

ok ok maybe I'll take photos of the engine bay, close up photos of any parts that i suspect need cover up, post it right back here and wait sifus' comment.

As for engine dressing, beside Meg Hyper Dressing, what's the alternative?
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QUOTE(efaceninja @ Sep 4 2014, 04:55 PM)
Lols if i use my common sense, i would've covered almost all the things in engine bay and ended up washing the plastic bags (which is covering the whole engine bay).. because my commom sense tells me "DON'T SPRAY WATER INTO/ONTO ENGINE! ITS DANGEROUS!"

As for engine dressing, beside Meg Hyper Dressing, what's the alternative?
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Aiyoo...if you think like that ah...then don't drive when it rains and, when you do, go over all the puddles very very slowly because all the water would be splashing about and enter the engine bay wooohhh...try open the hood and have a look at the engine after you've driven through heavy rain....hahaha.

But, seriously, most modern engines are quite 'water proofed'....quite safe.
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QUOTE(efaceninja @ Sep 4 2014, 04:55 PM)
Lols if i use my common sense, i would've covered almost all the things in engine bay and ended up washing the plastic bags (which is covering the whole engine bay).. because my commom sense tells me "DON'T SPRAY WATER INTO/ONTO ENGINE! ITS DANGEROUS!"

ok ok maybe I'll take photos of the engine bay, close up photos of any parts that i suspect need cover up, post it right back here and wait sifus' comment.

As for engine dressing, beside Meg Hyper Dressing, what's the alternative?
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tires dressing will do the job as well...all dressing attract dust though brows.gif
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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Sep 4 2014, 04:00 PM)
Just use common sense. For a start, just cover those parts/areas that you think don't like water, eg. exposed wire connectors/junctions, any 'boxes' that you think water can seep in and contain electronics/electrical stuffs, etc. (oh...and if water can go inside the air intake then you have a much bigger things to worry about mate tongue.gif ). And if you're using a degreaser, you'd also need to cover those moving parts that require grease to work properly.

Time to learn about your engine assembly and whats inside the engine compartment and also how they work.... rolleyes.gif
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this.

being interested in cars/car enthusiast definitely help a TON in this nod.gif
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QUOTE(g88 @ Sep 4 2014, 05:34 PM)
tires dressing will do the job as well...all dressing attract dust though  brows.gif
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i can attest to that; My engine bay is dusty/dirty as hell now...

will give it a wash again soon biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(g88 @ Sep 4 2014, 05:34 PM)
tires dressing will do the job as well...all dressing attract dust though  brows.gif
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 4 2014, 06:32 PM)
i can attest to that; My engine bay is dusty/dirty as hell now...

will give it a wash again soon biggrin.gif
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dressing = attract dust

What should we use (as alternative to dressing product) for keeping our engine look at it's best? Need recommendation please. Thanks notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(roxx @ Sep 4 2014, 06:44 PM)
dressing = attract dust

What should we use (as alternative to dressing product) for keeping our engine look at it's best? Need recommendation please. Thanks  notworthy.gif
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nothing.

because regular detailing stuff wouldn't stand the heat, and those that would will have an oil film and that's what attract more dust/dirt.
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nothing.

because regular detailing stuff wouldn't stand the heat, and those that would will have an oil film and that's what attract more dust/dirt.
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Well....well....do i have a surprise for you all. Wait ah...need to be on my laptop for that....
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Well....well....do i have a surprise for you all. Wait ah...need to be on my laptop for that....
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Well....well....do i have a surprise for you all. Wait ah...need to be on my laptop for that....
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Surprise? I like surprise.. thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

Faster Faster..
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Quick question .. pg quick detailer set come with pg wonderclay no ????
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Quick question .. pg quick detailer set come with pg wonderclay no ????
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Saw at AEON Big MValley they're selling in a pack (QD + Clay)

Now not sure still got or not. RM35 If I can remember correctly..
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What number har the wonderclay inside? It's not written on the box but clay is green colour
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Quick question .. pg quick detailer set come with pg wonderclay no ????
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QUOTE(roxx @ Sep 4 2014, 08:04 PM)
Saw at AEON Big MValley they're selling in a pack (QD + Clay)

Now not sure still got or not. RM35 If I can remember correctly..
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i saw that PG quick detailer set too, been looking all over the box but found no info on which clay is it, (no.1 or no.2?). i remember is RM 39.90 at AEON Wangsa maju.
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i saw that PG quick detailer set too, been looking all over the box but found no info on which clay is it, (no.1 or no.2?).  i remember is RM 39.90 at AEON Wangsa maju.
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It's green colour. So i suspect number 2
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What number har the wonderclay inside? It's not written on the box but clay is green colour
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QUOTE(efaceninja @ Sep 4 2014, 08:11 PM)
i saw that PG quick detailer set too, been looking all over the box but found no info on which clay is it, (no.1 or no.2?).  i remember is RM 39.90 at AEON Wangsa maju.
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Clay no 2.. Green color.. nod.gif
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tires dressing will do the job as well...all dressing attract dust though  brows.gif
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 4 2014, 06:32 PM)
i can attest to that; My engine bay is dusty/dirty as hell now...

will give it a wash again soon biggrin.gif
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hmm.gif should wash your exterior first?? haha.

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dressing = attract dust

What should we use (as alternative to dressing product) for keeping our engine look at it's best? Need recommendation please. Thanks  notworthy.gif
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i see.. well last time i did spray some PG tyre shine on the engine's hard plastic parts (air box, other boxes). looks shine and nice and happy. 1-2 weeks later, all dust on top.

so.. normally you guys (your preference) is not put on dressing on engine bay?
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QUOTE(efaceninja @ Sep 4 2014, 08:16 PM)
hmm.gif should wash your exterior first?? haha.

i see.. well last time i did spray some PG tyre shine on the engine's hard plastic parts (air box, other boxes).  looks shine and nice and happy.  1-2 weeks later, all dust on top.

so.. normally you guys (your preference) is not put on dressing on engine bay?
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i will wash it as well, maybe separate session, see how my schedule goes.

i did put dressing, so it looked damn bling during the first month LOL
now it looks like as if my car goes to rally on a daily basis sweat.gif
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Right...you guys have seen beadings on body/paints right? Normal la kan....

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Well....how about beadings INSIDE AN ENGINE BAY....???

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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Sep 4 2014, 08:22 PM)
Right...you guys have seen beadings on body/paints right? Normal la kan....

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Well....how about beadings INSIDE AN ENGINE BAY....???

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Wah lau ehhhh...


Respect bro. Coating sama engine

Today just apply rain x on my windscreen

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Right...you guys have seen beadings on body/paints right? Normal la kan....
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waaaa 22ple?

dei i ady gotten my 3rd set of sport rims and i still haven't gotten the 22ple rim coating from you sad.gif
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Fuyooo notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

So now all greasy oil won't stick to your engine la.. lol

Share product please thumbup.gif
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No coating there guys....CD2 Engine Detailer. And the pictures were taken after just a spray with Megs SD + rinse (no brushing, scrubbing, etc.), and the CD2 applied (after a thorough cleaning, of course) a couple of months (or so) before that.
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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Sep 4 2014, 08:47 PM)
No coating there guys....CD2 Engine Detailer. And the pictures were taken after just a spray with Megs SD + rinse (no brushing, scrubbing, etc.), and the CD2 applied (after a thorough cleaning, of course) a couple of months (or so) before that.
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this??
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does it gather dusts?
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greetings fellas...

I'm staying in Kulaijaya, Johor.

Am looking for :

Optimum No Rinse Car Wash x1
Optimum Instant Detailer x1
Optimum Car Wax x1


Where do I go to get them...

Very hard to get these super good stuff nowadays. Otherwise... can recommend me any equivalent products that I can use and much easier to get?
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QUOTE(Phantom Renegade @ Sep 4 2014, 09:26 PM)
greetings fellas...

I'm staying in Kulaijaya, Johor.

Am looking for :

Optimum No Rinse Car Wash x1
Optimum Instant Detailer x1
Optimum Car Wax x1
Where do I go to get them...

Very hard to get these super good stuff nowadays. Otherwise... can recommend me any equivalent products that I can use and much easier to get?
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Almost failed geography at school....is Kulaijaya close to SG? U go there often? If so, then shinecars.com or optivax SG would be the best place to get those.
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this??
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Yup, thats the one. Still gather dust but easier to wash off and doesn't stick as much.
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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Sep 4 2014, 09:30 PM)
Almost failed geography at school....is Kulaijaya close to SG? U go there often? If so, then shinecars.com or optivax SG would be the best place to get those.
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Not quite far but I never in my life step my feet in Singapore yet. It's quite a hassle to do my passport just for the sake of getting this stuff... but thanks a lot for your suggestion. Can be considered in the future. thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Sep 4 2014, 09:33 PM)
Yup, thats the one. Still gather dust but easier to wash off and doesn't stick as much.
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Not quite far but I never in my life step my feet in Singapore yet. It's quite a hassle to do my passport just for the sake of getting this stuff... but thanks a lot for your suggestion. Can be considered in the future.  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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They do online shop and ship here. Close to you maybe shipping/currier would be cheaper.
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damn lol
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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Sep 4 2014, 10:45 PM)
Bro, even surface coated with carbon nanotubes would gather dust.... tongue.gif
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true also lol...

well already got damn lots of hyper dressing lying around... i'll just finish it before moving on laugh.gif
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Bro, even surface coated with carbon nanotubes would gather dust.... tongue.gif
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My spider sense tells me that dressing not meant for daily drive car.. More towards show and shine car.. Lol
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My spider sense tells me that dressing not meant for daily drive car.. More towards show and shine car.. Lol
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Daily driven cars require more frequent MAINTENANCE, much like changing engine oil, the more distance you travel the more frequent you'd need to make the oil change. It's not about the dressing, it's about 'you'. Clean often enough, you don't really need dressings. Same goes to sealants/waxes. Wash your car often enough you don't really need these 'sacrificial protective layer' since contaminant don't have time to attack the paint. But in the real world, you'd need them since you won't be washing your car each and every day... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Sep 5 2014, 09:07 AM)
Daily driven cars require more frequent MAINTENANCE, much like changing engine oil, the more distance you travel the more frequent you'd need to make the oil change. It's not about the dressing, it's about 'you'. Clean often enough, you don't really need dressings. Same goes to sealants/waxes. Wash your car often enough you don't really need these 'sacrificial protective layer' since contaminant don't have time to attack the paint. But in the real world, you'd need them since you won't be washing your car each and every day... sweat.gif
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This statement not really 100% true tongue.gif
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QUOTE(g88 @ Sep 5 2014, 09:11 AM)
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It's a GENERAL statement and only applies IN A GENERAL sense grumble.gif
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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Sep 5 2014, 09:07 AM)
Daily driven cars require more frequent MAINTENANCE, much like changing engine oil, the more distance you travel the more frequent you'd need to make the oil change. It's not about the dressing, it's about 'you'. Clean often enough, you don't really need dressings. Same goes to sealants/waxes. Wash your car often enough you don't really need these 'sacrificial protective layer' since contaminant don't have time to attack the paint. But in the real world, you'd need them since you won't be washing your car each and every day... sweat.gif
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Lol.. The thing that i scared most - washing the engine.. So I guess I just leave it first

*Opening manual handbook to learn the engine component parts and everything.. sweat.gif


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Lol.. The thing that i scared most - washing the engine.. So I guess I just leave it first

*Opening manual handbook to learn the engine component parts and everything.. sweat.gif
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I thought you should open up the front hood and study it instead....

If yours is not turbo or hybrid, then should be pretty simple.
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I thought you should open up the front hood and study it instead....

If yours is not turbo or hybrid, then should be pretty simple.
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Yes.. Basic things to do - open hood and inspect the compartments components end everything..

But still scared leh.. sweat.gif

Nvrmind, tomorrow cuti I study.. icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(roxx @ Sep 5 2014, 10:51 AM)
Yes.. Basic things to do - open hood and inspect the compartments components end everything..

But still scared leh..  sweat.gif

Nvrmind, tomorrow cuti I study..  icon_idea.gif
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let's study together.. blush.gif

first off, the engine bay. look at the dust/sand on the air box. i just applied Meg's Ultimate Protectant (after wiping with MF cloth with water only) on it last 2 weeks and its already gather many dust lols.
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do i need to cover the whole alternator? and how about the alternator belting? this belting is the only visible belting to me when i roughly check. so how do i know if this belting need grease? so i've to cover it up if i'm going to use a Degreaser to clean?
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biotin couldnt see clearly from your image to know what type of stains u had on your paint..

First we need to know your paint condition.. Then we need to know type of water spots (if that was water spots) that u had..

Type 1 water spots - u can use those water spot remover from the shelf (aeon/ace hardware/etc)

Type 2 water spots - u can use ultimate compound whether by hand or machine.. Use it wisely

Type 3 water spots - etching into clear coat and I'm not sure can be remove. I have one on my car paint..

Honestly for me claying wont remove water spots.. I have so many type 2 and claying wont remove them..

Remember. Using ultimate compound will cut your clear coat.. So if I were u, i will use something less abrasive first to remove the stain (since I dont know which type u had)

Previously I use UC to remove my type 2 ws and after doing some research, how I wish i use Duragloss Water Spots remover first before UC.. More effective and more safer to clear coat..

Choice is yours.. Patient.. Learn and decide.. Im still learning so hope if Im wrong, sifu please correct me ya..
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heehehe .. All the dirty water spot has gone ! I bought the meguiars water spot remover .. damn this thing work wonderfully .. no effort at all .. highly recommended .

I also bought the meguairs clay bar set , and Ultimate compound in case the water remover didnt work.

Bought those at 20% discount at Aeon last weekend . Thanks guys ..
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Do you hand applies the Meguiar's Water Spot Remover?
Do you feel that the product dried up very fast and often after you work on the product on the paint, you want to wipe away the residue, you can't because it is already dried so you got to either spray water or drop a few more fresh products to make it wet again and quickly wipe it off before it dries again?


efaceninja Do not have to be so afraid. If you ever pay attention to some of the service center, they just directly use a high pressure water gun, spray water to the engine bay, without any sort of covering. It is not a cautious practice and definitely not mean to be encouraging, but just to assure you that often time you will be fine.



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Yep , by hand . .. TRUE ! That thing dries up quickly and it leave the residue . Want to know what i did ? I dilute some in water, and use the polish pad to remove the residue . It worked . Any other "trick" to remove that ?

Thanks for sharing

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@scoutfai

Yep , by hand . .. TRUE ! That thing dries up quickly and it leave the residue . Want to know what i did ? I dilute some in water, and use the polish pad to remove the residue . It worked . Any other "trick" to remove that ?

Thanks for sharing
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Yes I also face the drying issue with hand application.
As mention earlier I just spray water or put a few more drops of fresh product onto the foam pad and quickly spread it to "re-wet" the dried residue, then MUST be very fast to wipe it off, otherwise dried up again.
I didn't thought of your method, I tried next time, thanks for the idea.
No I do not have any other way already. But I do notice one thing, if applied at middle of night then dried up isseu is reduce, the product very sensitive to temperature, even not in direct sunlight, the heat up surrounding air will also cause it to dry up.
I have a DA so when I applied with DA then the issue is kind of not appearing. Not surprising, since with a machine brute force the foam just keep wiping away whatever it is touching. But there is always occasion where hand application is the only way.

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efaceninja Do not have to be so afraid. If you ever pay attention to some of the service center, they just directly use a high pressure water gun, spray water to the engine bay, without any sort of covering. It is not a cautious practice and definitely not mean to be encouraging, but just to assure you that often you will be fine.


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Aside choose to wash using garden house or water pressure, what cleaner chemical, brushes to use...etc

Its good to invest such a device user posted image

This will really help to ensure all the socket are properly dry (no need unplug to blow) before you restart your engine...

Also washing engine should be FAST ! Dun let the chemical sit too long on the surface (regards plastic or any engine compartment)...also NOT advisable to use STRONG chemical which might faded or burn up the engine part surface....

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efaceninja Do not have to be so afraid. If you ever pay attention to some of the service center, they just directly use a high pressure water gun, spray water to the engine bay, without any sort of covering. It is not a cautious practice and definitely not mean to be encouraging, but just to assure you that often you will be fine.

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i already had watched this video, infact, already subscribe to that channel lols.Drive clean and Ammo NYC. so i'm scaring myself too much??
to me its like bumgy jump.. i know if everything setup properly, it is probably safe. but no matter how much you convince me, i would never take that jump lols. Until i'm super certain that i would survive.

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it had a fan mode which is not blowing hot air.
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can i use this instead?  blink.gif  sad.gif
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it had a fan mode which is not blowing hot air.
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efaceninja, doesn't look like there's much to cover there. But, just for extra precautions, personally I would use some aluminium foil to cover those sockets with exposed (coloured) wire.

Belting don't use grease so no need to cover. But the alternator...well...if you're going to use a degreaser then better not let the degreaser enter the alternator. Water is ok but not degreaser. Again, not much danger but just to be extra safe la.

And the rest, I think you're good to go and about time too before it gets even dirtier and harder to clean.... tongue.gif
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I have exactly this item. tongue.gif
The only drawback is it is so loud, especially when it blowing on small holes or tight space, the sound produced is so high in pitch and disturbing to neighbor ears. So can't use it at early morning or night.

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Ok try this then, from Meguiar's Malaysia.


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My engine sheets most of the water away.... tongue.gif
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Guys ... what brand is reliable but not so expensive for the wax/polishing machine ? The meguiars DA is too expensive for me .. gulp
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Guys ... what brand is reliable but not so expensive for the wax/polishing machine ? The meguiars DA is too expensive for me .. gulp
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Aside choose to wash using garden house or water pressure, what cleaner chemical, brushes to use...etc

Its good to invest such a device user posted image

This will really help to ensure all the socket are properly dry (no need unplug to blow) before you restart your engine...

Also washing engine should be FAST ! Dun let the chemical sit too long on the surface (regards plastic or any engine compartment)...also NOT advisable to use STRONG chemical which might faded or burn up the engine part surface....
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Guys where can I buy P.T.G? Am looking at cheaper side as currently those with microns reading can reach easily RM500~RM700 tops..

Any cheap PTG decent enough to use?
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Guys ... what brand is reliable but not so expensive for the wax/polishing machine ? The meguiars DA is too expensive for me .. gulp
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you can refer to here because i've asked a same question before too.
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=69535621

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coating is cheap, what isn't cheap, is the correction steps/prep work/labor/expertise etc that's done prior/during the coating.

and of course those x years warranty that's covered? that's taken into the cost as well.

minus all that, it's actually just few hundred RM even after shipping and even after tax if you're unlucky to get taxed.
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Hi, any1 can comment on dura gloss? Good brand? If i wanna wax.. Which product is suitable? I tried search the forum but i cant find it.. Thx a lot sifu

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Hi, any1 can comment on dura gloss? Good brand? If i wanna wax.. Which product is suitable? I tried search the forum but i cant find it.. Thx a lot sifu
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Im confuse, if i wanna wax.. I should use DG105 or DG501?

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efaceninja, doesn't look like there's much to cover there. But, just for extra precautions, personally I would use some aluminium foil to cover those sockets with exposed (coloured) wire.

Belting don't use grease so no need to cover. But the alternator...well...if you're going to use a degreaser then better not let the degreaser enter the alternator. Water is ok but not degreaser. Again, not much danger but just to be extra safe la.

And the rest, I think you're good to go and about time too before it gets even dirtier and harder to clean.... tongue.gif
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that's all about my engine cleaning session. i then proceed to wash & clay and wax again the whole car.. hehe.. you can see it here.

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Im confuse, if i wanna wax.. I should use DG105 or DG501?
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Let me clarify on this..

DG501 : Polish - Clean - Sealant (AIO) product

DG105 : Polish - ??

For wax : DG Aquawax (wax only spray type)

I used DG501 and I never bother to wax my car after wash.. Just use spray wax (maybe I will or not) as a topper on my next wash..

Hope this helps..

Anyway today want to go KD to get OCW but due to bad traffic unable to reach there on time.. Aiyohhh..

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Im confuse, if i wanna wax.. I should use DG105 or DG501?
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If just wanna 'wax', DG105. If wanna 'deep clean' and polish a little bit of those *very* light swirls, light waterspots, staining, etc. then DG501, and the 'wax' in it is quite decent as well so you don't really need to slap a layer of 'wax' again after using it.

Just to clarify. DG105 isn't really an AIO per se. It just has some solvent in it which would do a little bit of cleaning. DG501 is slightly more agressive and able to lightly polish the surface. Can't remember whether it contains abrasive or not.
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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Sep 6 2014, 11:20 PM)
If just wanna 'wax', DG105. If wanna 'deep clean' and polish a little bit of those *very* light swirls, light waterspots, staining, etc. then DG501, and the 'wax' in it is quite decent as well so you don't really need to slap a layer of 'wax' again after using it.

Just to clarify. DG105 isn't really an AIO per se. It just has some solvent in it which would do a little bit of cleaning. DG501 is slightly more agressive and able to lightly polish the surface. Can't remember whether it contains abrasive or not.
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Thanks for your explanation on DG105.. Still cannot get my hand to do review using it.. Lol

DG501 contains nano abrasive as what I read in AG.. It still can remove light swirl marks from what I see..

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as 'endorsed' by master... here we (me) go~
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that's all about my engine cleaning session. i then proceed to wash & clay and wax again the whole car.. hehe.. you can see it here.
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Nice.. Good job bro..

I still no courage to clean my engine..
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that's all about my engine cleaning session. i then proceed to wash & clay and wax again the whole car.. hehe.. you can see it here.
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Like the saying goes, first time is always the hardest...good job bro.... thumbup.gif
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Hi Sifus,

I am facing a problem. My car is full of light scratches that is visible under sunlight. I suppose the water/cloth has too much sands while I am cleaning it. Any way that I can mask/reduce/cover those scratches?
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Let me clarify on this..

DG501 : Polish - Clean - Sealant (AIO) product

DG105 : Polish - ??

For wax : DG Aquawax (wax only spray type)

I used DG501 and I never bother to wax my car after wash.. Just use spray wax (maybe I will or not) as a topper on my next wash..

Hope this helps..

Anyway today want to go KD to get OCW but due to bad traffic unable to reach there on time.. Aiyohhh..
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Aquawax is a sealant.
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Never felt aquawax as a sealant since I'm using DG501 doh.gif

That's why want to buy OCW

Next time do testing without DG501 and see the result..
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Hi guys, I need some help and guidance.

I was meant to apply touch up paint to some spots on my car just now, but I accidentally applied too much, hence I used a cloth to rub it away, THEN i begin to realize that the area that I just rubbed is fading and become blurry (like the pic below).

My car is just one year old, please help and tell me how I can restore it??

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QUOTE(nicholas88 @ Sep 7 2014, 06:41 PM)
Hi guys, I need some help and guidance.

I was meant to apply touch up paint to some spots on my car just now, but I accidentally applied too much, hence I used a cloth to rub it away, THEN i begin to realize that the area that I just rubbed is fading and become blurry (like the pic below).

My car is just one year old, please help and tell me how I can restore it??

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This video explains clearly on how to touch up paint the right way biggrin.gif Have a look!


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QUOTE(nicholas88 @ Sep 7 2014, 06:41 PM)
Hi guys, I need some help and guidance.

I was meant to apply touch up paint to some spots on my car just now, but I accidentally applied too much, hence I used a cloth to rub it away, THEN i begin to realize that the area that I just rubbed is fading and become blurry (like the pic below).

My car is just one year old, please help and tell me how I can restore it??

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Sorry to see this happened. Unfortunately, i can't think of any easy way of rectifying that. Need to sand down and compound/polish the spot, and might possibly need to re-do also. But, saying that, I know little of toucing-up, so let other chime in also la.
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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Sep 7 2014, 07:58 PM)
Sorry to see this happened. Unfortunately, i can't think of any easy way of rectifying that. Need to sand down and compound/polish the spot, and might possibly need to re-do also. But, saying that, I know little of toucing-up, so let other chime in also la.
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Sanding down then re-compound and polish is the way.
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QUOTE(nicholas88 @ Sep 7 2014, 06:41 PM)
Hi guys, I need some help and guidance.

I was meant to apply touch up paint to some spots on my car just now, but I accidentally applied too much, hence I used a cloth to rub it away, THEN i begin to realize that the area that I just rubbed is fading and become blurry (like the pic below).

My car is just one year old, please help and tell me how I can restore it??

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looks like the solvent from the touch-up paint spreaded too large area by your action of rubbing it. the solvent slowly dissolve a tiny patch/layer, but it is visible to eye already.

suddenly reminded of mr bean's movie, the part where he try to rub off the pen ink from the million dollar painting using thinner. lesson learnt here, when need to rub off excess touch up paint, need to spray with many water and wipe with wet cloth to ensure the paint/solvent is too diluted to dissolve other parts of the car paint??

as to how to restore, i got zero experience lols. refer to the above sifus.

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Nice.. Good job bro..

I still no courage to clean my engine..
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i think your concern is still quite valid. one of my friend ask me: Hyundai not going to void your warranty ah? i was like.. err... i don't think car manufacturer wants/allow their customer to spray water onto engine bay? which also leads me into thinking, what if i wanna wash prius's engine bay? prius C? Jazz Hybrid? Nissan Leaf? (wait, Leaf got engine bay?? i also not sure haha)

just need to pay more attention and time on properly wrapping those suspicious wire connectors. i think my wrapping still kind of sloopy lols. my determining factor on which wire to wrap is, wrap those wire which seems can trap water in their own socket.

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QUOTE(nicholas88 @ Sep 7 2014, 06:41 PM)
Hi guys, I need some help and guidance.

I was meant to apply touch up paint to some spots on my car just now, but I accidentally applied too much, hence I used a cloth to rub it away, THEN i begin to realize that the area that I just rubbed is fading and become blurry (like the pic below).

My car is just one year old, please help and tell me how I can restore it??

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before you go into more 'heavy' repair as in sand down etc...i would suggest you get some IPA to do a quick wipe on the surface. I believe what spreaded around the touch up area is the lacquer from the touch up paint....
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QUOTE(g88 @ Sep 8 2014, 09:19 AM)
before you go into more 'heavy' repair as in sand down etc...i would suggest you get some IPA to do a quick wipe on the surface. I believe what spreaded around the touch up area is the lacquer from the touch up paint....
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Will it ruin the paint further? Just afraid it will get worst.
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Will it ruin the paint further? Just afraid it will get worst.
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Hi guys, Can I ask how to remove sticker stain on window? it seem to be that a friend of mine use duck tape to stick the car road tax.Now the window seem to be sticky.Is there anyway to remove it?  hmm.gif  hmm.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  sweat.gif
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search FNF main forum, i have posted that goo gone (orange/citrus power, can find from ace hardware) being very effective in doing this, and cleaning up the petroleum residue is a breeze as well with mere tissue paper smile.gif
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QUOTE(Joeyskullz @ Sep 8 2014, 02:57 PM)
Hi guys, Can I ask how to remove sticker stain on window? it seem to be that a friend of mine use duck tape to stick the car road tax.Now the window seem to be sticky.Is there anyway to remove it?  hmm.gif  hmm.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  sweat.gif
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Ace Hardware. Price forgot but won't be expensive. Come in different size.

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search FNF main forum, i have posted that goo gone (orange/citrus power, can find from ace hardware) being very effective in doing this, and cleaning up the petroleum residue is a breeze as well with mere tissue paper smile.gif
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Ace Hardware. Price forgot but won't be expensive. Come in different size.

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QUOTE(nicholas88 @ Sep 7 2014, 06:41 PM)
Hi guys, I need some help and guidance.

I was meant to apply touch up paint to some spots on my car just now, but I accidentally applied too much, hence I used a cloth to rub it away, THEN i begin to realize that the area that I just rubbed is fading and become blurry (like the pic below).

My car is just one year old, please help and tell me how I can restore it??

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Sifus, to clean fabric seats without extractor or steamer, can i do the following:

1. lightly spray the fabric cleaner/APC directly on the fabric seats.
2. brush the seat
3. wipe with damp MF cloth.
4. lightly spray water on the seat
5. wipe with damp MF cloth
6. wipe with/press blob with dry cloth
7. leave car in sun to dry off

is it advisable to spray the product directly onto the seats? because without extractor, a little bit of APC will always be left over right? looking at TW's fabric cleaner advertisement, it just spray right on top of the fabric seats, brush, and wipe away. although it is a foaming type product.


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If you intend to use the APC, when you're done, I would suggest you use a wet/dry vacuum to 'extract' as much water as possible FROM UNDERNEATH THE FABRIC before drying. Under those fabrics are sponges that tends to hold water, and you know how difficult it is for sponges to get totally dry.

If you don't have a wet/dry vacuum, I'd suggest you use those type of fabric cleaner in aerosol can that foam, much like the one in the video you posted. These 'foam' is 'dryer', much of it would stay on the surface and doesn't penetrate *much* into the fabric. It also won't leave the fabric too wet and doesn't contain much water to extract. I've used the 3M Scotchbrite Fabric cleaner and it worked very well. Stubborn stain required a few rounds of cleaning but, in term of drying time, just need a few hours under our scorching sun.

Oh...if you still want to use APC, might I suggest you remove the seats when doing them so that you can leave them DIRECTLY under the sun for drying...more effective that way.
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Sifus, to clean fabric seats without extractor or steamer, can i do the following:

1. lightly spray the fabric cleaner/APC directly on the fabric seats.
2. brush the seat
3. wipe with damp MF cloth.
4. lightly spray water on the seat
5. wipe with damp MF cloth
6. wipe with/press blob with dry cloth
7. leave car in sun to dry off

is it advisable to spray the product directly onto the seats? because without extractor, a little bit of APC will always be left over right?  looking at TW's fabric cleaner advertisement, it just spray right on top of the fabric seats, brush, and wipe away.  although it is a foaming type product.


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If you intend to use the APC, when you're done, I would suggest you use a wet/dry vacuum to 'extract' as much water as possible FROM UNDERNEATH THE FABRIC before drying. Under those fabrics are sponges that tends to hold water, and you know how difficult it is for sponges to get totally dry.

If you don't have a wet/dry vacuum, I'd suggest you use those type of fabric cleaner in aerosol can that foam, much like the one in the video you posted. These 'foam' is 'dryer', much of it would stay on the surface and doesn't penetrate *much* into the fabric. It also won't leave the fabric too wet and doesn't contain much water to extract. I've used the 3M Scotchbrite Fabric cleaner and it worked very well. Stubborn stain required a few rounds of cleaning but, in term of drying time, just need a few hours under our scorching sun.

Oh...if you still want to use APC, might I suggest you remove the seats when doing them so that you can leave them DIRECTLY under the sun for drying...more effective that way.
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Am using Armor All carpet&upholstery cleaner foam and for me its easy to use..

Spray armor all foam on fabric
Leave about 1 minute
Agitate with soft brush
Wipe residue with MF

From my experienced, STP Tuff Stuff cleans faster than armorall even though from the same company.. My personal opinion only ya..

As what master krismas inform about *penetration* I agree on that.. Take about couple of hours to dry..

Another thing master krismas, I went to 2 AceHardware outlets (MV/Ikano) but still couldnt find dawn power dissolver.. doh.gif



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Another thing master krismas, I went to 2 AceHardware outlets (MV/Ikano) but still couldnt find dawn power dissolver.. doh.gif
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Eh? Really? Let me see if I can find them in ACE Bukit Jelutong....

Just to double check, you were looking for something that look like this right?

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Guys!

I got a bunch of 3M detailing products....any feedback at your end isnt good or bad?

I got it as sponsorship products.

Enlighten me!

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Master.. What time? Location ok for me but cannot promise ya..

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Eh? Really? Let me see if I can find them in ACE Bukit Jelutong....

Just to double check, you were looking for something that look like this right?

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Yep thats the one.. Currently AH only got Dawn Ultra Original and Dawn Citrus original..

Nvrmind later I go ace Mines plak.. Or else sunlight ftw.. Lol..

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Guys!

I got a bunch of 3M detailing products....any feedback at your end isnt good or bad?

I got it as sponsorship products.

Enlighten me!

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Yvonne from ZTH?

nvr used 3M before but looks promising..
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Yvonne from ZTH?

nvr used 3M before but looks promising..
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Hey there... I am not the Yvonne you are referring. laugh.gif

I am a motoring blogger by interest. An Automotive Analyst by Profession.

Since 3M gave me whole lotsa detailing products as sponsorship . So i was thinking to ask first before hurting my car. thumbup.gif


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QUOTE(mypinkgarage @ Sep 10 2014, 10:21 AM)
Guys!

I got a bunch of 3M detailing products....any feedback at your end isnt good or bad?

I got it as sponsorship products.

Enlighten me!

Yvonne
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Which lines? Their consumer line that sells in the stores or those new ones in silver-ish sprayer bottle? I've tried a couple of stuffs in the consumer line (normal black bottles)and they are decent enough...nothing to shout about but good enough for general use. Haven't tried those that are in the silver-ish bottles...don't know if they're the same or different. I also have a few of their 3M Perfect It compounds/polishes...good...but not so promising. I like their buffing pads though....

QUOTE(roxx @ Sep 10 2014, 10:21 AM)
Master.. What time? Location ok for me but cannot promise ya..
Yep thats the one.. Currently AH only got Dawn Ultra Original and Dawn Citrus original..

Nvrmind later I go ace Mines plak.. Or else sunlight ftw.. Lol..
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Time starts at around 9.30pm until....well...some times it could go until the wee hours...

Meaning to stop by there later this afternoon after work...well...not really 'there' there but plan to do some groceries shopping at Jaya Grocer and ACE is just beside it. You want me to get you one if I can find it there? I can pass it to you at the TT....
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QUOTE(mypinkgarage @ Sep 10 2014, 10:38 AM)
Since 3M gave me whole lotsa detailing products as sponsorship . So i was thinking to ask first before hurting my car.  thumbup.gif
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I can volunteer to test them if you want tongue.gif

I'm just a hobbyist/enthusiast with no associations what-so-ever with any brands. I'm always eager to try out new products (especially the 3M new silver packagings lines) and interested to see whether 3M had made any progress with their products after Meguiars takeover.....

Oh...and don't worry. I don't think a huge name like 3M would produce something that would 'hurt' your car....cuz it would 'hurt' them more if they did....hehehe.....

ps. just make sure you read the label and use them as instructed....just to be safe.... tongue.gif

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I have the range of the silver-ish bottles from :-

All Purpose Scrub
Spray Wax
Leather and Vinyl Restorer
Tire Restorer

I heard the feedback from others detailing shop it is not bad thou. Tot of getting more advise before trying it on my ride.

Cause my ride is WHITE and I dont wanna hurt it that badly.



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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Sep 10 2014, 10:48 AM)
I can volunteer to test them if you want tongue.gif

I'm just a hobbyist/enthusiast with no associations what-so-ever with any brands. I'm always eager to try out new products (especially the 3M new silver packagings lines) and interested to see whether 3M had made any progress with their products after Meguiars takeover.....

Oh...and don't worry. I don't think a huge name like 3M would produce something that would 'hurt' your car....cuz it would 'hurt' them more if they did....hehehe.....

ps. just make sure you read the label and use them as instructed....just to be safe.... tongue.gif
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You are real funny! rclxm9.gif

I am eager to try as well! My ride has been a product testing ride since I receive my 1st sponsor. It is scary and yet it is fun.

Anyhow, i did something stupid to my headlamp .. they are not my sponsor but i decided to be white rat in the lab. Product testing is fun la...but the risks always there.


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I have the range of the silver-ish bottles from :-

All Purpose Scrub
Spray Wax
Leather and Vinyl Restorer
Tire Restorer

I heard the feedback from others detailing shop it is not bad thou. Tot of getting more advise before trying it on my ride.

Cause my ride is WHITE and I dont wanna hurt it that badly.
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You should be alright with those. Just remember one thing though: product is just one part of the equation. The rest are method, techniques, tools and accessories, etc.

For example, lets just assume that the Spray Wax is an excellent product. You'd need a good quality microfiber cloth and the right approach/method/technique to go with it. On many occasions people tends to blame the products when, in actual fact, they just didn't use/apply them properly.....
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Anyhow, i did something stupid to my headlamp .. they are not my sponsor but i decided to be white rat in the lab. Product testing is fun la...but the risks always there.
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Well....nothing stupid about that...part of the learning process. Unless....you didn't learn anything and did the whole thing again.....hahahaha.....

Yeah....the risks are always there when trying/DIY stuffs. But much would be reduced when you start by getting to know what you're trying to do BEFORE you actually start doing it. I tell you...some of the 'stupids' stuff I've tried...like getting an RM50 products to 'restore' something that would only cost me RM20 to replace...is that stupid or what? sweat.gif
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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Sep 10 2014, 10:48 AM)
I can volunteer to test them if you want tongue.gif

I'm just a hobbyist/enthusiast with no associations what-so-ever with any brands. I'm always eager to try out new products (especially the 3M new silver packagings lines) and interested to see whether 3M had made any progress with their products after Meguiars takeover.....
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You should be alright with those. Just remember one thing though: product is just one part of the equation. The rest are method, techniques, tools and accessories, etc.

For example, lets just assume that the Spray Wax is an excellent product. You'd need a good quality microfiber cloth and the right approach/method/technique to go with it. On many occasions people tends to blame the products when, in actual fact, they just didn't use/apply them properly.....
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Earlier on, 3M gave me another kinda spray. I had it done at the professional. Fully spray at the Infrared Room and let it sit for hours before I collect it.

It was awesome. Yes, i agreed with what you said, never fully blame on the products when wrong application kicks in. This is very important for me as well, because the 3M personnel will constantly ask for feedback from me.




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Earlier on, 3M gave me another kinda spray. I had it done at the professional. Fully spray at the Infrared Room and let it sit for hours before I collect it.

It was awesome. Yes, i agreed with what you said, never fully blame on the products when wrong application kicks in. This is very important for me as well, because the 3M personnel will constantly ask for feedback from me.
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Eh? I tot you said your ride is white?

Anyway....hrrrmm....would that be the 3M Paint Defender going onto the front of the hood there?
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Eh? I tot you said your ride is white?

Anyway....hrrrmm....would that be the 3M Paint Defender going onto the front of the hood there?
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kekekekekekekekkekekekekeke : my ride is white....unfortunately, that day my ride is with Option Malaysia's Magazine. Had to used my colleague's Latio. And he is happy with it.

Wow...Kris...smart huh.....Paint Defender smile.gif
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These silver one?
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Yeah...those. Noticed them on the shelves for a while now and would have bought them to try if it's not for the price they're selling. tongue.gif Nowadays a bit difficult to get 'approval' for the extra expenditure.... sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif
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Wow...Kris...smart huh.....Paint Defender smile.gif
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just a wild guess....judging from the way those taping and masking....correct ka?
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just a wild guess....judging from the way those taping and masking....correct ka?
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http://mypinkgarage.blogspot.com/2014/08/a...-detailing.html


so far, the result is ok. Going to test the 2nd batch and see the differents nod.gif
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Yeah...those. Noticed them on the shelves for a while now and would have bought them to try if it's not for the price they're selling. tongue.gif  Nowadays a bit difficult to get 'approval' for the extra expenditure.... sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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Which lines? Their consumer line that sells in the stores or those new ones in silver-ish sprayer bottle? I've tried a couple of stuffs in the consumer line (normal black bottles)and they are decent enough...nothing to shout about but good enough for general use. Haven't tried those that are in the silver-ish bottles...don't know if they're the same or different. I also have a few of their 3M Perfect It compounds/polishes...good...but not so promising. I like their buffing pads though....
Time starts at around 9.30pm until....well...some times it could go until the wee hours...

Meaning to stop by there later this afternoon after work...well...not really 'there' there but plan to do some groceries shopping at Jaya Grocer and ACE is just beside it. You want me to get you one if I can find it there? I can pass it to you at the TT....
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Thanks Master.. But am having free time today thus planning to go Ace for DPD.. Want to detail but weather macam mau hujan..
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I guess this product still new right?

First time search for UC in aeon didnt see 3M product..

After several weeks (or months couldnt rmmber) go there the promoter suggested me to buy 3M but during that time was looking for megs hot rims.. So pandang 3M one eye only.. Hehe
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QUOTE(mypinkgarage @ Sep 10 2014, 11:27 AM)
You can read it over at my blog:)

http://mypinkgarage.blogspot.com/2014/08/a...-detailing.html
so far, the result is ok. Going to test the 2nd batch and see the differents nod.gif
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Do you still wash your car regularly after the paint defender?

Based on the pricing and 3M's reco, it seems to be very expensive to apply the whole car.
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Do you still wash your car regularly after the paint defender?

Based on the pricing and 3M's reco, it seems to be very expensive to apply the whole car.
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That was her friend's car.. Her car is white tongue.gif
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Do you still wash your car regularly after the paint defender?

Based on the pricing and 3M's reco, it seems to be very expensive to apply the whole car.
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Hey there,

Before I spray, i got it polish and wax. So basically after Spray, my colleague didnt wash his car. But somehow, mother nature decided to help him wash. But so far, it is ok. Not to bad. Paint defender is not recommended for whole car.

It is mainly for the front part as for aerodynamics the force of stones hitting the front part. That is for defending.

Not many consumers will go for it because its expensive and it has to let it sit for hours because can remove your car out from the enclose area. Yesterday night, i tested on a new product as well. Waiting for a week until i get the best outcome.

Liquid wash.. immediately i can see the effect of the glossiness as if i had it wax or polish. Unfortunately, it was dark so I didnt capture any picture. I will try to upload at the soonest.


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That was her friend's car.. Her car is white tongue.gif
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Hey there,

Before I spray, i got it polish and wax. So basically after Spray, my colleague didnt wash his car. But somehow, mother nature decided to help him wash. But so far, it is ok. Not to bad. Paint defender is not recommended for whole car.

It is mainly for the front part as for aerodynamics the force of stones hitting the front part. That is for defending.

Not many consumers will go for it because its expensive and it has to let it sit for hours because can remove your car out from the enclose area. Yesterday night, i tested on a new product as well. Waiting for a week until i get the best outcome.

Liquid wash.. immediately i can see the effect of the glossiness as if i had it wax or polish. Unfortunately, it was dark so I didnt capture any picture. I will try to upload at the soonest.
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I think the film should be thick enough to protect your car from stone chip. I understand you polish, but wax then apply the film? Sound weird.

I just want to know how will the film react to water, and what if we have to wash the part covered by the film.

If while washing, we accidentally peel the edge of the film. Can we just push it back and make it stick?
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I think the film should be thick enough to protect your car from stone chip. I understand you polish, but wax then apply the film? Sound weird.

I just want to know how will the film react to water, and what if we have to wash the part covered by the film.

If while washing, we accidentally peel the edge of the film. Can we just push it back and make it stick?
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I would not recommend that to everyone. It will not peel off. Just that, once kena water it will turns white spots.
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definitely come so long i'm not involved in any "beansprout runs" laugh.gif
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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Sep 10 2014, 08:40 AM)
If you intend to use the APC, when you're done, I would suggest you use a wet/dry vacuum to 'extract' as much water as possible FROM UNDERNEATH THE FABRIC before drying. Under those fabrics are sponges that tends to hold water, and you know how difficult it is for sponges to get totally dry.

If you don't have a wet/dry vacuum, I'd suggest you use those type of fabric cleaner in aerosol can that foam, much like the one in the video you posted. These 'foam' is 'dryer', much of it would stay on the surface and doesn't penetrate *much* into the fabric. It also won't leave the fabric too wet and doesn't contain much water to extract. I've used the 3M Scotchbrite Fabric cleaner and it worked very well. Stubborn stain required a few rounds of cleaning but, in term of drying time, just need a few hours under our scorching sun.

Oh...if you still want to use APC, might I suggest you remove the seats when doing them so that you can leave them DIRECTLY under the sun for drying...more effective that way.
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hmmm... hmm.gif so foam type fabric cleaner is more recommended ah. ok ok.. but i think i'll try with APC first with one of my seat. because really want to cut some expenditure for these moment first haha. maybe i'll take a stand fan, put it right beside the seat, and full blast it to aide drying. and also try to put under sun as long as i can. hmm.gif hmm.gif remove the seats sounds so... difficult? i mean, i didn't go and study how to remove one.

QUOTE(roxx @ Sep 10 2014, 09:34 AM)
Am using Armor All carpet&upholstery cleaner foam and for me its easy to use..

Spray armor all foam on fabric
Leave about 1 minute
Agitate with soft brush
Wipe residue with MF

From my experienced, STP Tuff Stuff cleans faster than armorall even though from the same company.. My personal opinion only ya..

As what master krismas inform about *penetration* I agree on that.. Take about couple of hours to dry..

Another thing master krismas, I went to 2 AceHardware outlets (MV/Ikano) but still couldnt find dawn power dissolver.. doh.gif
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so i've 3 product to lookout for in future. TW's, 3M Scotchbrite Fabric cleaner, Armor All carpet&upholstery cleaner foam.
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hmmm...  hmm.gif so foam type fabric cleaner is more recommended ah. ok ok..  but i think i'll try with APC first with one of my seat.  because really want to cut some expenditure for these moment first haha.  maybe i'll take a stand fan, put it right beside the seat, and full blast it to aide drying.  and also try to put under sun as long as i can. hmm.gif  hmm.gif  remove the seats sounds so... difficult? i mean, i didn't go and study how to remove one.
so i've 3 product to lookout for in future. TW's, 3M Scotchbrite Fabric cleaner, Armor All carpet&upholstery cleaner foam.
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Boys and girls. I am interested in doing detealing for an old beemer. Any idea what does it cost?
For car paint and engine bay cleaning, plus car interior, separately, how much is the usual cost?

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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Sep 11 2014, 10:10 AM)
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Thanks Master.. But am having free time today thus planning to go Ace for DPD.. Want to detail but weather macam mau hujan..
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Bro roxx, was at ACE Bukit Jelutong this afternoon and they're still there. If you're still looking for it I can get one for you and pass it during t'row's TT...RM25.90...

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Collinite Fleetwax

lol got myself this paste wax and work on half of the car =P

the surface is first prep-ed, then lastly applied this wax. it's not as slick as my fav combo of DG PBA + DGTC(trackclaw). BUT the water repellency is absolutely fantastic! well it was hard to debuff no matter how thin layer it's applied or how hazy it became before debuff, argh used up some elbow strength xD

this wax is pure wax, absolutely ZERO cleaning ability, my pad is still clean after gliding thru some dirt patches lolol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqeczIenJJo

now, let's see how this perform over time biggrin.gif anyone used this before? apa macam?

yo bro KrisMas can get me one ma if can smile.gif see u tmr TT btw

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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Sep 11 2014, 08:42 PM)
Bro roxx, was at ACE Bukit Jelutong this afternoon and they're still there. If you're still looking for it I can get one for you and pass it during t'row's TT...RM25.90...

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[-Reserved for TT, Gatherings, Events, etc-]

Detailing TT - 12 Sept 2014 : 9.30pm
Location: Al Barkath Restaurant, Ara Damansara


Just a small gathering of detailing enthusiasts and friends for a chit-chatting and 'teh tarik' session.

All are invited. If you see some detailing stuffs on the table, just head to it and introduce yourself.

Cheerio.
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yo bro KrisMas can get me one ma if can smile.gif see u tmr TT btw
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QUOTE(efaceninja @ Sep 10 2014, 10:09 PM)

so i've 3 product to lookout for in future. TW's, 3M Scotchbrite Fabric cleaner, Armor All carpet&upholstery cleaner foam.
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i've used turtle wax fabric aerosol cleaner, works well and nothing to complaint except the fact i do need a vacuum later to clean up the residue (the drying agents thingy mentioned)

but yes, it dries very fast and is good for fabric as explained by sifu Krismas earlier
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Touge run...  Tōge (峠)
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Yeooo... grip a gallon of D1101 at hypercoat yesterday.. at Rm 204.00 biggrin.gif.... where to get PA foam lence? .. any link ? brows.gif

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Yeooo... grip a gallon of D1101 at hypercoat yesterday.. at Rm 204.00  biggrin.gif....  where to get PA foam lence? .. any link ? brows.gif
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Wow Hyperwash so expensive now ? I don't think you can get foam lance locally. What pressure washer are you using ?
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Wow Hyperwash so expensive now ? I don't think you can get foam lance locally. What pressure washer are you using ?
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biggrin.gif it still cheaper then send out to cuci biggrin.gif .. me using Karcher 2.98M smile.gif
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Yeooo... grip a gallon of D1101 at hypercoat yesterday.. at Rm 204.00  biggrin.gif....  where to get PA foam lence? .. any link ? brows.gif
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Haven't heard of anybody here selling them......sorry....
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roxx Your items are ready.
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Haven't heard of anybody here selling them......sorry....
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YHS hardware is selling PA foam lance at 2Xx.00 BUT have to change the kepala to attach to Karcher which the dun have the kepala cry.gif

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roxx Your items are ready.
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Anybody went to DIT today?
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Anybody went to DIT today?
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if anyone want videos i'll link here later la; Else keeping to inspira thread only
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QUOTE(acefreakz @ Sep 11 2014, 10:45 PM)
Collinite Fleetwax

lol got myself this paste wax and work on half of the car =P

the surface is first prep-ed, then lastly applied this wax. it's not as slick as my fav combo of DG PBA + DGTC(trackclaw). BUT the water repellency is absolutely fantastic! well it was hard to debuff no matter how thin layer it's applied or how hazy it became before debuff, argh used up some elbow strength xD

this wax is pure wax, absolutely ZERO cleaning ability, my pad is still clean after gliding thru some dirt patches lolol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqeczIenJJo

now, let's see how this perform over time biggrin.gif anyone used this before? apa macam?

yo bro KrisMas can get me one ma if can smile.gif see u tmr TT btw
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Share some boar hair detailing brush products here & my observation.

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Left = Envy Brush (largest size), bought from Singapore (import from UK), after conversion RM13.00/unit (exclude shipment & GST). It mimics the Swissvax style wheel brush.

Right = Braun Brush A7D 1.25" round brush, bought from Hong Kong (import from USA), after conversion RM62/unit (exclude shipment). It is part of the Wheel Woolies (WW) series of product by Braun Automotive.

By comparison you can see the Envy brush boom is slightly shorter. The bristles length of Envy brush is also shorter.

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It is apparent that the Envy Brush has smaller bristles brushing area. It also can be seen that the Envy brush bristle density is not as high as the A7D. i.e. for a same unit area the A7D has more number of bristle compare to Envy Brush.


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In this photo I try to push away the bristles of Envy Brush to reveal the center. There is a wood put in the center, hence at the center there is actually no bristle. The bristle is only located at the circumference. In constrast, A7D has full bristles coverage even in the center.

In term of

(a) Bristle softness
Both are equal softness. Comparable to the softness of a brand new wood paint nylon brush. Definitely safe on delicate surfaces.

(b) Built Quality
No doubt A7D is much better by a lot of grade. Having a longer bristle also enable the A7D to be slightly softer than Envy Brush.

(c ) Chances of bristles falling away
Upon purchase both brushes already demonstrate few bristles falling away from the holder when lightly pulled by fingers. So in this aspect both are equal. It also means that one is unrealistic to expect this kind of brush will last forever. Eventually the day will come when there is enough bristles has gone and too little bristles left to do the cleaning job effectively.

(d) Safety Factor
Both are equally safe because there is absolutely no metal parts outside. There is only plastic. Which is also a reason I like to use this kind of brush in case I accidentally bang into the paint with the brush or drop it onto the panel, I knew they will not be deep scratch. And it will not rust (unlike wood paint brush wrapped in plastic cover). Nevertheless, having no metal component holding the bristles could be a reason why the bristles are easier to fall off from the holder compare to normal wood paint brush. I think this is a give and take situation, if one wishes to have extra safety, one has to accept extra disadvantage.

(e) Value for money
Despite Envy brush being graded lower by me in term of built quality and performance but due to its much cheaper price, its value for money in my opinion is higher than A7D if one has to take into consideration of every cent spent.

BTW Envy Brushes are more popular in its 5 sets package which has more value for money (RM48/set after conversion, excluding shipment & GST).

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Nevertheless, in my opinion, only the largest size Envy Brush is most useful. I own the set but I wish now all 5 brushes are the largest brush size. laugh.gif

Attach also a picture showing side by side comparison of original Swissvax Brush (which sold at Ferrari price, so I do not own one) and the cheaper alternative Envy Brush.
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Bro I know that A7D using boar brush.. How about envy brush?
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Bro I know that A7D using boar brush.. How about envy brush?
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Both also boar hair, sorry bro. Western manufacturer usually do it in boar hair.
The other alternative is horse hair but so far I haven come across horse hair brush that looks like Swissvax Wheel Brush style one. I only come across horse hair carpet brush before, that one looks like a hand held block design one, not boom style like swissvax.

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Question:
On claying, do you guys:
1) Partition the new clay into many small pieces (like 10), each piece for a panel or an area, after done, throw them away.
2) Split to half, or 1/3, then use this partition clay the whole car, along the process keep knitting the clay to reveal a clean side. Once done, store the clay to be re-used next time. Only throw away after visual inspection indicates not possible to knit to a clean side.
3) Same as (2) but instead of store it, throw it away, just use for one time, for sake of absolute safety.
4) Others more creative practice?
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Question:
On claying, do you guys:
1) Partition the new clay into many small pieces (like 10), each piece for a panel or an area, after done, throw them away.
2) Split to half, or 1/3, then use this partition clay the whole car, along the process keep knitting the clay to reveal a clean side. Once done, store the clay to be re-used next time. Only throw away after visual inspection indicates not possible to knit to a clean side.
3) Same as (2) but instead of store it, throw it away, just use for one time, for sake of absolute safety.
4) Others more creative practice?
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poorfag here go with no. 2. sad.gif
after the 1/2 or 1/3 portion have been reused a few times on paint, looks dirty already, then will use it to clay rim first. after clay a few rim and really totally cannot tahan the dirtiness already, only then throw..
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Me oso poorfag so i use no 2 method.. After use i store in a container full with water..

Still couldnt forget about yesterday.. Ngam2 got 2 al-barkath restaurant in same place.. Lol doh.gif

Master krismas u're absolutely correct about the MF towel yesterday.. Today tested and indeed dry easier or should I say better than my absorbent chamois.. But cannot hold water sangat la..

Btw with that price its worth it.. thumbup.gif
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Me oso poorfag so i use no 2 method.. After use i store in a container full with water..

Still couldnt forget about yesterday.. Ngam2 got 2 al-barkath restaurant in same place.. Lol  doh.gif

Master krismas u're absolutely correct about the MF towel yesterday.. Today tested and indeed dry easier or should I say better than my absorbent chamois.. But cannot hold water sangat la..

Btw with that price its worth it..  thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(roxx @ Sep 13 2014, 09:42 PM)
Master krismas u're absolutely correct about the MF towel yesterday.. Today tested and indeed dry easier or should I say better than my absorbent chamois.. But cannot hold water sangat la..

Btw with that price its worth it..  thumbup.gif
Just imagine that cloth in the size of a bath towel.....and only cost rm35!!!!
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https://www.facebook.com/meguiarsmy/photos/...elevant_count=1

Meg got discount again, although its 10% only..
for those who still hunting.


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https://plus.google.com/+JasonLimQuazacolt/posts/j9Gt8oHBrpT Took leave on Friday, and spent the entire noon/evening/night cleaning my mom's Nissan Sentra engine bay.
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https://plus.google.com/+JasonLimQuazacolt/posts/j9Gt8oHBrpT Took leave on Friday, and spent the entire noon/evening/night cleaning my mom's Nissan Sentra engine bay.
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rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif niceee onee! noticed you didn't even the alternator. so you spray the SD (1:10?) on the alternator and also brush it?? you didn't took photo while the engine is still dry and dirty.. also you took a leave just to wash engine bay ah? your mum must be very happy lols (that's if, she understand & appreciate a clean engine lols)

and the painting brush you bought, how is it? you think is good or just normal usable for this engine cleaning purpose?? cause i just bought 1 brush just now also haha. not paint brush. also since you're using some hyper dressing, hopefully you can update back few days later or next week see if got gathered dust already haha
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just now went to AceHardware and bought this brush. the bristle felt like the same material with the Osren's brush. but i forgot to ask how much was Osren's brush last time, so i just buy this only. RM 12.90. i intend to use for wheel, engine bay, interior.. the bristle length is about 2".
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also, saw this at Aeon just now, rotary machine for RM 245 only lols. rolleyes.gif
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also bought a piece of MF cloth which is ultra super plush and soft and very very nice to touch. intended to use for drying car. i know it reads 'Face Towel'.. but.. it is MF and its really soft so i think its safe to paint as well? hmm.gif
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then, seeing that my current car is going to relocate to a condo's parking lot (no car wash bay, no pipe, no water nose, no running water, no nothing) for a very long period of time, went on and bought a bottle of TW Rinse Free Wash & Wax. Got 20% discount on this item rclxms.gif icon_idea.gif rclxm9.gif , bought from AEON.
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QUOTE(efaceninja @ Sep 14 2014, 06:39 PM)
rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif niceee onee!  noticed you didn't even the alternator.  so you spray the SD (1:10?) on the alternator and also brush it??  you didn't took photo while the engine is still dry and dirty.. also you took a leave just to wash engine bay ah?  your mum must be very happy lols (that's if, she understand & appreciate a clean engine lols)

and the painting brush you bought, how is it? you think is good or just normal usable for this engine cleaning purpose??  cause i just bought 1 brush just now also haha.  not paint brush.  also since you're using some hyper dressing, hopefully you can update back few days later or next week see if got gathered dust already haha
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i didn't directly spray degreaser on to the alternator, the brush i use would have excess and i just brush over it. if not enough, i just spray more on the brush and continue brushing.

after i am done i just spray some lithium grease to moving parts such as the alternator, throttle cable (the sentra is not DBW) and the throttle movement mechanism

and yes my megs SD is running on 1:10, may need to buy another gallon soon as i do use it fairly frequently considering how i work on cars a lot and in a sense also can consider DIY workshop already laugh.gif

and yes my bad on not taking photo while the engine is dry and dirty, however considering the pictures on the engine block with all the previously leaked oil, added with dirt/grime/carbon etc, you could probably get the idea on how dirty the engine bay is.
to further describe, most of the "regular maintenance items" such as the brake fluid, power steering fluid, coolant reservoirs are all covered in thick layer of dirt that a wipe is a must else you won't be able to easily see the fluid levels.
the dip stick are all covered in dirt as well so it gets my hands REALLY dirt after doing engine oil/ATF inspections.

well not purposefully (needed to clear leaves), but since i do have a bit of spare time, and there's the engine cover sitting in the living room forever since the previous valve cover gasket replacement, i'd figure it's high time i clean the engine bay up, and install the cover back to where it belongs.
and yes i did show her and she was quite delighted biggrin.gif

as for the brush and gloves, i think i gotten all of them (the 2 painting brush, a pair of rubber gloves) for like rm10 or so. just really cheap stuffs since it's not like i want to prevent scratching or something on the engine.
heck, in fact the brushes are actually too soft for certain parts and i'm considering things like toilet scrub if it weren't for their usually bigger sizes for harder to reach places.

i only hyper dress on the logo, so chances are, it won't be having that much dust and not to mention i have bsd to sorta "dilute it" (since it has a bit of cleaning ability as it's a very mild QD) so it doesn't feel that oily at all.
maybe i can take a picture in a week or 2 time (hopefully i remember haha)
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https://plus.google.com/+JasonLimQuazacolt/posts/j9Gt8oHBrpT Took leave on Friday, and spent the entire noon/evening/night cleaning my mom's Nissan Sentra engine bay.
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Can elaborate a little bit on the performance of the car battery powered air compressor?
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Can elaborate a little bit on the performance of the car battery powered air compressor?
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it able to blow water i guess? lol.

nothing comparable to a proper blower, it's just happen i have one so i may pump tires and what not that's it lol.
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Ive been looking for the Petronas Wash and Wax for quite some time now, went to at least 6 diff stations but all dont have it. If you see it selling at a Petronas station in Klang Valley, or if you want to sell me your unopened bottle let me know smile.gif thx.

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also, newly discovered Hyundai branded car care products while was at Hyundai SC.  just so you all know this kind of things exists lols.
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Guys, need some advise on removing swirls on a new car straight from dealership,

Light swirls even when the car is brand new cry.gif

I've got some ultimate compound lying around, but i dont have a rotary. Is using UC recommended for removing fine swirls by hand? Or should i be looking at swirl-x or Ulti polish?

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https://plus.google.com/+JasonLimQuazacolt/posts/CyKB5ydmFS8 Did engine bay cleaning for the Iswara late evening during Malaysia day public holiday; Completed a lot faster this time around biggrin.gif

didn't bother covering anything this time lol
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QUOTE(jedi_dc @ Sep 16 2014, 09:58 PM)
Guys, need some advise on removing swirls on a new car straight from dealership,

Light swirls even when the car is brand new cry.gif

I've got some ultimate compound lying around, but i dont have a rotary. Is using UC recommended for removing fine swirls by hand? Or should i be looking at swirl-x or Ulti polish?

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if it is serious, can consider ultimate compound. however do follow proper steps and cleaning prior to any detailing/correction work.

if you're going to proceed with compound, do perform ultimate polish after it to further smoothen any hazing that may be caused by ultimate compound.

also if you're using hand, please use light even pressure, else you may be getting some horrible "finger marks"

swirls from new car straight from dealership is not surprising especially if they're going to wash it down "clean" for you.
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 16 2014, 09:58 PM)
https://plus.google.com/+JasonLimQuazacolt/posts/CyKB5ydmFS8  Did engine bay cleaning for the Iswara late evening during Malaysia day public holiday; Completed a lot faster this time around biggrin.gif

didn't bother covering anything this time lol
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your exhaust manifold seems rusted a bit?? can see some red patches lols. and can see K&N sticker right there ya haha. brave you didn't cover anything up at all lols. i'll still try to cover some places..
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it able to blow water i guess? lol.

nothing comparable to a proper blower, it's just happen i have one so i may pump tires and what not that's it lol.
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How long it able to blow continuously before you have to wait for it to re-pressurize again?
How long it take to pressurize to full capacity?
BTW most curious of all, does it really able to pump tyre effectively as it claims? Feel interested to invest one for pump tyre, hate to go petrol station and either find out their pump is not working or long queue.
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your exhaust manifold seems rusted a bit?? can see some red patches lols.  and can see K&N sticker right there ya haha.  brave you didn't cover anything up at all lols. i'll still try to cover some places..
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it's just how stainless steel are after going through extreme heat cycles; Certain parts you'll see pretty rainbow color, while the rest is ugly brown rusty looking colors.
If i maintain my car between 4-5k rev or more, you can see it glowing red wink.gif
and during my active days on the iswara, it's seen redlines on a VERY frequent basis.

i didn't cover anything because the intake's stuck all the way to the fender, no way water's getting in.
and even if it did, it'll just drip out of that hot air vent thingy that's operated on engine vacuum or something.
the distributor is a typical point to cover, however it has layers of rubbers and seals, while the socket is just a +/- socket that's rather straight forward and not that water will stagnate on it anyways.

the rest are very simple mechanical/electrical items that wouldn't break even if a short circuit does happen.
old carbie, no ECU, very simple old car wink.gif
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How long it able to blow continuously before you have to wait for it to re-pressurize again?
How long it take to pressurize to full capacity?
BTW most curious of all, does it really able to pump tyre effectively as it claims? Feel interested to invest one for pump tyre, hate to go petrol station and either find out their pump is not working or long queue.
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- it'll heat up and blow or something if you operate over 10-15 minutes

- instant

- yea no problem.
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Just imagine that cloth in the size of a bath towel.....and only cost rm35!!!!
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Kris i miss the TT sounds like got some nice big towel !! drool.gif

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Nice review!~  :thumbs:  :respect:
Kris i miss the TT sounds like got some nice big towel !!  :drool:
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Big mf for 35 bucks!!!! Nak jugak bro krismas.. heheh
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Big mf for 35 bucks!!!! Nak jugak bro krismas.. heheh
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Well....errr....sorry but you can't get them from me. I'm just here to show you guys the way (frm whatever limited knowledge & experience i have). For the towels, they're Osren's. I'll take some pics and post them up later.
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Well....errr....sorry but you can't get them from me. I'm just here to show you guys the way (frm whatever limited knowledge & experience i have). For the towels, they're Osren's. I'll take some pics and post them up later.
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Awesome thanks man!




By the way,
I just receive this package from my uncle that he help me buy this pad unfortunately i cant use cause my equipment rosak! doh.gif doh.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

By the way is a Autogym Pain Pro Rotary or Orbital Machine Polisher Black Finishing Pad 125mm.

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Awesome thanks man!
Here we go:

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Stacked up with it's 'larger' brother (can't remember the size)
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Unfolded, with the larger brother still folded in two
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Annndddd......
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Just to put it into perspective, that's a queen size bed there and another feet and it'll be right at the edge of the mattress. And I definitely think it's longer than any typical bath towel...maybe a little skinnier but definitely LONGER!!!
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Waaa... THis is really drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif
Well i think i must go Osren next month to look see look see. sad.gif So scared i cannot tahan and buy so much thing. cry.gif
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Waaa... THis is really  drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif
Well i think i must go Osren next month to look see look see. sad.gif So scared i cannot tahan and buy so much thing.  cry.gif
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they have credit card machine too wink.gif
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they have credit card machine too  wink.gif
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Wow, the giant MF, would it be a pain to wring out the excess water? And RM35 for it? Time to buy some to replace my bath towel. Wait.
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Wow, the giant MF, would it be a pain to wring out the excess water? And RM35 for it? Time to buy some to replace my bath towel. Wait.
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Not really. I mean it is huge but it's those kinda 'stretchable' kinda cloth and also it's not so thick. I would normally just fold it in four (half then half again) and easy to wring the water out....that is IF I need to wring....and most of the time I don't really need to..... tongue.gif
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this is still my most preferred drying towel for my cars. great performance.


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WHAT?  shocking.gif  U mean ATM?
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the drying MF comes in 3 colours... purple.. grey & brown. 3 for RM18
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Waaa... THis is really  :drool:  :drool:  :drool:
Well i think i must go Osren next month to look see look see. :( So scared i cannot tahan and buy so much thing.  :cry:
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Probably you would.. haha.. their display room (where they'll serve you) is full of detailer geek's tool you can imagine. All their MF cloth is there for you to touch and feel. They do accept credit card payment.
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credit card machine.

the drying MF comes in 3 colours... purple.. grey & brown. 3 for RM18
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3 for RM18 same as face towel size right?
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Today just got my car back from perodua for repainting as I was hit by a bike at rear.

At first everything seems alright and done properly but closer inspection, i saw some run around the corner. Those run are quite thick and you can easily see them. Damn mad and feel like it was done by some amature painter. shakehead.gif

I told them i am not happy and i want this fixed, they asked me to come back next saturday to fix the paint run. Since i have no car to use, i was forced to sign off and drive my car back. Now i've already lost my confident at that SC, I am thinking to get it fix by car detailer rather than those jokers. Any advice on this? Should i go back? I scare that they will just cincai sand it down and make thing worse. icon_question.gif

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Bro N33d, there are limits what a detailer can do. If the runs are above the clear coat or the clear coat itself, it's possible. If they're under the clear, then the whole clear need to be sand off and re-shoot - that's beyond any detailers unless he also do paint job. A decent quality re-spray job would cost in the thousands. If you can afford it, take it to a more reputable painter. If you can't afford to spend that much, just keep sending it back to the sc until you're satisfied. But you'd need to be insistant and keep pushing them....it's your right. You can send to a good and reputable detailer to check first if you wan't, just to make sure whether it can be salvage or not.
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QUOTE(roxx @ Sep 20 2014, 01:53 PM)
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3 for RM18 same as face towel size right?
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credit card machine.

the drying MF comes in 3 colours... purple.. grey & brown. 3 for RM18
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sounds good, i thought Osren towel would be very expensive... doh.gif


QUOTE(efaceninja @ Sep 20 2014, 01:09 PM)
Probably you would.. haha.. their display room (where they'll serve you) is full of detailer geek's tool you can imagine.  All their MF cloth is there for you to touch and feel.  They do accept credit card payment.
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haha... Well does osren sell rotary tolls?
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sounds good, i thought Osren towel would be very expensive...  doh.gif
haha... Well does osren sell rotary tolls?
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You mean rotary polisher, right?

Well I might be wrong but so far I only know they sell Ultramate DA..
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http://www.supremecare.com.my/store/index....ute=common/home
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Can buy ? Rm 150.00 for diy at home use. Opinion need? Me 1time thinking of buying this

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You mean rotary polisher, right?

Well I might be wrong but so far I only know they sell Ultramate DA..
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coll cooll... Previously i saw some one posted that they saw some rotary that cost below RM300.
now im not sure to go that or either the Makita 9227c. hmm.gif hmm.gif hmm.gif
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QUOTE(kayroll @ Sep 20 2014, 11:29 PM)
Hi...is this seller trusted.....interested with the Meguiar's product. hmm.gif  hmm.gif

http://www.supremecare.com.my/store/index....ute=common/home
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eh didn't know he got website lol!
and selling posh piles now, damn i'm tempted!

btw his LYN ID: SupremeCareForYou
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Hi...is this seller trusted.....interested with the Meguiar's product. hmm.gif  hmm.gif

http://www.supremecare.com.my/store/index....ute=common/home
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I can vouch for him....he's legit. Already bought quite a few stuffs frm him before.

QUOTE(TamiyaOne @ Sep 20 2014, 11:50 PM)
Can buy ? Rm 150.00 for diy at home use. Opinion need? Me 1time thinking of buying this
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No velcro backing plate - can only use their own propriety bonnet like shown in the pics on the box. Machine wise, it's an 'ok' macnine for waxing and *very* light polishing.

QUOTE(kalvinkhoo @ Sep 21 2014, 12:50 AM)
coll cooll... Previously i saw some one posted that they saw some rotary that cost below RM300.
now im not sure to go that or either the Makita 9227c.  hmm.gif  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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Skil rotary is around rm250. Haven't tried it before, but most of the cheaper polishers lack the necessary turque to maintain the rotation speed under load - it slows/bog down once you put pressure/press on it. Still usable with 'ok' performance....considering how much it cost. But I wound suggest, if you can source for the fund, a very much value for money rotary machine is the DeWalt which cost around rm650.
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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Sep 21 2014, 07:34 AM)
Skil rotary is around rm250. Haven't tried it before, but most of the cheaper polishers lack the necessary turque to maintain the rotation speed under load - it slows/bog down once you put pressure/press on it. Still usable with 'ok' performance....considering how much it cost. But I wound suggest, if you can source for the fund, a very much value for money rotary machine is the DeWalt which cost around rm650.
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Sounds convincing at that price. Well, since the cost of DeWalt is 650myr why not get the Makita 9227c right is only 100bucks away. hmm.gif
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Can buy ? Rm 150.00 for diy at home use. Opinion need? Me 1time thinking of buying this
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for me, yup like Krismas says, no velcro backing pad. you've to use the bonnet wrap. and i can't ever get the wrap balanced while rotating lols.

QUOTE(kalvinkhoo @ Sep 21 2014, 12:50 AM)
coll cooll... Previously i saw some one posted that they saw some rotary that cost below RM300.
now im not sure to go that or either the Makita 9227c.  hmm.gif  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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would that be me? lols

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Hi...is this seller trusted.....interested with the Meguiar's product. hmm.gif  hmm.gif

http://www.supremecare.com.my/store/index....ute=common/home
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 21 2014, 06:20 AM)
eh didn't know he got website lol!
and selling posh piles now, damn i'm tempted!

btw his LYN ID: SupremeCareForYou
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isn't this website the official online store of Meguiar's Malaysia? i mean, all the buy link i click from meguiar's malaysia's product homepage link right to this supremecare page. and it is listed in hypercoat's email signature.
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Sounds convincing at that price. Well, since the cost of DeWalt is 650myr why not get the Makita 9227c right is only 100bucks away.  hmm.gif
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If you can get the Makita for rm750 then it's a steal, cuz the cheapest that I know of is around rm850.
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Siapa mau cuci..? Mari Mari..

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Note: I'm not condemning his job to earn money ya.. But too many mistakes can be found here which can lead to swirl marks/RIDS/etc..
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Don't buy, this machine is underpower...top up bit buy Bosch ROB
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Thanks sifu.
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Having an orange peel on 1yr++ paint really frustrated..

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My next mission - to learn how to wetsanding as suggested by master krismas.. sweat.gif sweat.gif

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Having an orange peel on 1yr++ paint really frustrated..

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My next mission - to learn how to wetsanding as suggested by master krismas..  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

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not to frust....removing orange peel just shorten the life span of the paintwork..

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isn't this website the official online store of Meguiar's Malaysia?  i mean, all the buy link i click from meguiar's malaysia's product homepage link right to this supremecare page.  and it is listed in hypercoat's email signature.
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QUOTE(efaceninja @ Sep 21 2014, 10:06 AM)
would that be me? lols
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Haha I think so but thanks at least i know about that product. notworthy.gif I went Aeon Midvalley and I saw that exact product there. brows.gif


QUOTE(KrisMas @ Sep 21 2014, 10:48 AM)
If you can get the Makita for rm750 then it's a steal, cuz the cheapest that I know of is around rm850.
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Haha! But it takes few days to get the stock! biggrin.gif But i have to wait awhile since im ready to start touch up my car scratches. rclxub.gif
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not to frust....removing orange peel just shorten the life span of the paintwork..
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Thanks master.. But was planning to top up with OOC after sanding.. Is it advisable?
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Thanks master.. But was planning to top up with OOC after sanding.. Is it advisable?
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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Sep 20 2014, 04:18 PM)
Bro N33d, there are limits what a detailer can do. If the runs are above the clear coat or the clear coat itself, it's possible. If they're under the clear, then the whole clear need to be sand off and re-shoot - that's beyond any detailers unless he also do paint job. A decent quality re-spray job would cost in the thousands. If you can afford it, take it to a more reputable painter. If you can't afford to spend that much, just keep sending it back to the sc until you're satisfied. But you'd need to be insistant and keep pushing them....it's your right. You can send to a good and reputable detailer to check first if you wan't, just to make sure whether it can be salvage or not.
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Hi KrisMas
Thank again for your informative reply.

Right now, i feel helpless as i just discovered the newly paint bumper has darker tone compared to the car body. This is not related to aging as my paint is just <1 years and i did wax/seal it every month, i also check with my door paint which does not expose to the elements and it consistent with my car body paint instead of the newly painted bumper. Sigh.. life is rough. They even dare to quote the insurance for 2.6k for this kind of shoddy job. shakehead.gif F***ing SC! This kind of paint job is beyond salvage(involve colorcoat) and only repaint is the way to go.
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hi guys,

just a noob here, and please share me some answer and facts. My 3 months Mazda3 soul red having bad watermark spot.. i mean very2 bad.

1) does that expensive car coating can protect from watermark?
2) how to avoid watermark, or preventive?
3) how to remove it now? i did try car wash 2-3 time, still there sad.gif
4) did try white vinegar as in google, but no luck
5) does waxing help? what diff with clay?
6) is it correct that car polish can damage ur factory paint?

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Thanks master.. But was planning to top up with OOC after sanding.. Is it advisable?
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lolol sry bro, i haven have time to hamtam the sanding to my car yet xD hahaaha
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QUOTE(cawan @ Sep 22 2014, 12:22 PM)
hi guys,

just a noob here, and please share me some answer and facts. My 3 months Mazda3 soul red having bad watermark spot.. i mean very2 bad.

1) does that expensive car coating can protect from watermark?
2) how to avoid watermark, or preventive?
3) how to remove it now? i did try car wash 2-3 time, still there sad.gif
4) did try white vinegar as in google, but no luck
5) does waxing help? what diff with clay?
6) is it correct that car polish can damage ur factory paint?

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1. Nope
2. Frequent wash (e.g at least once a week) else every morning rinse the overnight moisture (if you part outdoor) before you start your journey (if have time, dry it)
3. Polish
4. Refer to point 3
5. Wax is for protection not for removal of contamination or paint correction. Yes you can use clay after wash and before polish.
6. Depend the person whose do the polish and product use..if us hand highly possible can damage the paintwork
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QUOTE(cawan @ Sep 22 2014, 12:22 PM)
1) does that expensive car coating can protect from watermark?
- not really

2) how to avoid watermark, or preventive?
Main cause - dirty or contaminated rain/water (or dirty surface getting wet) left to bake dry (especially under the sun) on the surface.
Measures - wash frequently, try not to let your car to be baked under the sun for too long after rain, wash as soon as possible after rain, maintain a healthy layer of wax/sealant on the surface (act as a sacrificial layer).


3) how to remove it now? i did try car wash 2-3 time, still there sad.gif
From the pictures, looks like you'd need to clay and polish/compound them off....

4) did try white vinegar as in google, but no luck
Ref answer to no 3 above.

5) does waxing help? what diff with clay?
Waxing will help to minimise damages to the clear coat (as no 2). I don't think it can remove those watermarks shown in the pics. Claying is for removal of embedded contaminants. It might reduce the watermarks by removing much of the embedded deposits, but it can't remove damages to the clear coat.

6) is it correct that car polish can damage ur factory paint?
Only if you (or the person doing it) don't know how to use it properly. Hey...look at your car manual under paint care...there's normally a recommendation by the car manufacturer to polish your car annually.
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Bro roxx, how is the newly acquired product so far?
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Master zerosp Optimum product that I bought from you really disappoint me. Can you imagine previously it took hours for me to wash my car but now since using ONR it took me minutes to complete whole car?

Waxing also same problem. Last time wax and buff took me almost 1 1/2 hour. Not considering residue left on the paint. But since using OCWax I used 15 minutes tops whole car.. No need to buff lagi.. Clean and protect

Optimum Instant detailer lagi worst.. I accidentally over diluted (1:31/2) instead of 1:3 but still produce glossy and can feel the slickness.. Summore I only use 100ml for whole car..

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Ok la joke aside ya.. Sorry.. I can say that ONR OCW and OID really made my day.. By far this is the best product I have used (unless anyone can give me free sample of other product for review ya sweat.gif )

Optimum No Rinse

ONR took me minutes to complete. I was so shocked when my first attempt ONR able to pick up grit and placed it under GG. Never had this before in my washing bucket. Not with my previous 3 other products.

Forgot to snap photo pulak doh.gif

note: I was wrong at first place where I rinse the car first before using ONR. But it still able to pick up grit very well and still complete within an hour. thumbup.gif

Instruction on the label - 1oz (30ml):2 gallon but I think next wash I'm gonna use 1/2oz : 1 gallon and see how it goes.

From my opinion-

Pros:

Easy to use and save time (Seriously it does)

Able to pick up grit better than others

Able to reduce water mark due to rinseless wash

Best use for claying (normally I use car shampoo but does not lubricate like ONR)

Cons:

Sometimes I missed a spot since ONR does not produce soapy foam..

Not sure if the car is in heavy soiled state, will the abrasive transfer in the same panel?


Optimum Car Wax

Pros:

Feels that OCW creates a thick protection on the surface.. I don't get the same feeling with megs UQW

Easy to use. No buffing required and no residue left in the gap

Cons:

None at the moment. Let see how long the durability can last nod.gif

Optimum Instant Detailer & Gloss Enhancer

Was planning to dilute in a spray bottle instead of in a gallon size bottle. Took out measurement cup and pour 200ml of OID and accidentally mix with 700ml of water (it should be 600ml - 1:3) so i get 900ml of OID. doh.gif

But when sprayed to paint I can see the glossiness appear during wiping. The best feeling I've ever had.

Pros:

Easy to apply

Buy concentrate can dilute = save monehhh rclxm9.gif

Can see the glossiness and feel the slickness on the paint

Cons:

Bubble gum smell. Attract flying bugs tongue.gif

That's all I can say about these 3 product. I haven't try OPP. But looking at these 3, I believe OPP also works charm. notworthy.gif

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Master zerosp Optimum product that I bought from you really disappoint me. Can you imagine previously it took hours for me to wash my car but now since using ONR it took me minutes to complete whole car?

Waxing also same problem. Last time wax and buff took me almost 1 1/2 hour. Not considering residue left on the paint. But since using OCWax I used 15 minutes tops whole car.. No need to buff lagi.. Clean and protect

Optimum Instant detailer lagi worst.. I accidentally over diluted (1:31/2) instead of 1:3 but still produce glossy and can feel the slickness.. Summore I only use 100ml for whole car..

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Ok la joke aside ya.. Sorry.. I can say that ONR OCW and OID really made my day.. By far this is the best product I have used (unless anyone can give me free sample of other product for review ya  sweat.gif  )

Optimum No Rinse

ONR took me minutes to complete. I was so shocked when my first attempt ONR able to pick up grit and placed it under GG. Never had this before in my washing bucket. Not with my previous 3 other products.

Forgot to snap photo pulak  doh.gif

note: I was wrong at first place where I rinse the car first before using ONR. But it still able to pick up grit very well and still complete within an hour.  thumbup.gif

Instruction on the label - 1oz (30ml):2 gallon but I think next wash I'm gonna use 1/2oz : 1 gallon and see how it goes.

From my opinion-

Pros:

Easy to use and save time (Seriously it does)

Able to pick up grit better than others

Able to reduce water mark due to rinseless wash

Best use for claying (normally I use car shampoo but does not lubricate like ONR)

Cons:

Sometimes I missed a spot since ONR does not produce soapy foam..

Not sure if the car is in heavy soiled state, will the abrasive transfer in the same panel?
Optimum Car Wax

Pros:

Feels that OCW creates a thick protection on the surface.. I don't get the same feeling with megs UQW

Easy to use. No buffing required and no residue left in the gap

Cons:

None at the moment. Let see how long the durability can last  nod.gif

Optimum Instant Detailer & Gloss Enhancer

Was planning to dilute in a spray bottle instead of in a gallon size bottle. Took out measurement cup and pour 200ml of OID and accidentally mix with 700ml of water (it should be 600ml - 1:3) so i get 900ml of OID.  doh.gif

But when sprayed to paint I can see the glossiness appear during wiping. The best feeling I've ever had.

Pros:

Easy to apply

Buy concentrate can dilute = save monehhh  rclxm9.gif

Can see the glossiness and feel the slickness on the paint

Cons:

Bubble gum smell. Attract flying bugs  tongue.gif

That's all I can say about these 3 product. I haven't try OPP. But looking at these 3, I believe OPP also works charm.  notworthy.gif
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It is ok to over dilute OID a bit.

Car Wax wise, generally 3 months durability not a problem.

ONR wise, if heavily soiled, before pre-rinse I will spray entire car down with Opti Clean waterless wash.
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lolol sry bro, i haven have time to hamtam the sanding to my car yet xD hahaaha
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Lol.. Once hentam update ya.. Want to know also..
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It is ok to over dilute OID a bit.

Car Wax wise, generally 3 months durability not a problem.

ONR wise, if heavily soiled, before pre-rinse I will spray entire car down with Opti Clean waterless wash.
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Thanks master..

Another thing.. Is it advisable to remove orange peel then apply OOC?
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Master zerosp Optimum product that I bought from you really disappoint me. Can you imagine previously it took hours for me to wash my car but now since using ONR it took me minutes to complete whole car?

Waxing also same problem. Last time wax and buff took me almost 1 1/2 hour. Not considering residue left on the paint. But since using OCWax I used 15 minutes tops whole car.. No need to buff lagi.. Clean and protect

Optimum Instant detailer lagi worst.. I accidentally over diluted (1:31/2) instead of 1:3 but still produce glossy and can feel the slickness.. Summore I only use 100ml for whole car..

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Ok la joke aside ya.. Sorry.. I can say that ONR OCW and OID really made my day.. By far this is the best product I have used (unless anyone can give me free sample of other product for review ya  sweat.gif  )

Optimum No Rinse

ONR took me minutes to complete. I was so shocked when my first attempt ONR able to pick up grit and placed it under GG. Never had this before in my washing bucket. Not with my previous 3 other products.

Forgot to snap photo pulak  doh.gif

note: I was wrong at first place where I rinse the car first before using ONR. But it still able to pick up grit very well and still complete within an hour.  thumbup.gif

Instruction on the label - 1oz (30ml):2 gallon but I think next wash I'm gonna use 1/2oz : 1 gallon and see how it goes.

From my opinion-

Pros:

Easy to use and save time (Seriously it does)

Able to pick up grit better than others

Able to reduce water mark due to rinseless wash

Best use for claying (normally I use car shampoo but does not lubricate like ONR)

Cons:

Sometimes I missed a spot since ONR does not produce soapy foam..

Not sure if the car is in heavy soiled state, will the abrasive transfer in the same panel?
Optimum Car Wax

Pros:

Feels that OCW creates a thick protection on the surface.. I don't get the same feeling with megs UQW

Easy to use. No buffing required and no residue left in the gap

Cons:

None at the moment. Let see how long the durability can last  nod.gif

Optimum Instant Detailer & Gloss Enhancer

Was planning to dilute in a spray bottle instead of in a gallon size bottle. Took out measurement cup and pour 200ml of OID and accidentally mix with 700ml of water (it should be 600ml - 1:3) so i get 900ml of OID.  doh.gif

But when sprayed to paint I can see the glossiness appear during wiping. The best feeling I've ever had.

Pros:

Easy to apply

Buy concentrate can dilute = save monehhh  rclxm9.gif

Can see the glossiness and feel the slickness on the paint

Cons:

Bubble gum smell. Attract flying bugs  tongue.gif

That's all I can say about these 3 product. I haven't try OPP. But looking at these 3, I believe OPP also works charm.  notworthy.gif
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welcome to Optimum product range ...all i can say you are yet to maximise the capability of the product based on your review smile.gif

Play around with it more you will find it even more user friendly....well it does have weak point....for you to find out
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Sounds so tempting.... ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif

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Thanks master..

Another thing.. Is it advisable to remove orange peel then apply OOC?
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Like I mentioned that day when we met, it looks good but too much to sacrifice. I'd rather live with it lol.
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Play around with it more you will find it even more user friendly....well it does have weak point....for you to find out
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Thanks master for your precaution. Will look into maximizing OPT products.. thumbup.gif

QUOTE(kalvinkhoo @ Sep 22 2014, 05:42 PM)
Sounds so tempting....  ph34r.gif  ph34r.gif  ph34r.gif
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Poison Poison ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif

QUOTE(ZeroSP @ Sep 22 2014, 05:57 PM)
Like I mentioned that day when we met, it looks good but too much to sacrifice. I'd rather live with it lol.
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Yeah I remember master. But.. But.. But... cry.gif cry.gif
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roxx Just Opti Coated my friend's new City. One pass with Flex paired with Opt Red Foam + Opt Hyper Polish. Ok, Flex not mine... Borrowed from shop.

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Hmmm, not the best... but one pass boleh tahan la.
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New city got so many curves and angles
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Nah roxx, Orange Peel zoomed for you lol
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Still ok la
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cry.gif cry.gif poison summore..

Saw that orange peel on your friend's car.. Not sure I can live with that on mine.. thinking.. thinking.. thinking.. rclxub.gif

Anyway, nice work master zerosp .. How was it with flex?
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cry.gif  cry.gif  poison summore..

Saw that orange peel on your friend's car.. Not sure I can live with that on mine.. thinking.. thinking.. thinking.. rclxub.gif

Anyway, nice work master zerosp .. How was it with flex?
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But I can't afford.
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roxx Just Opti Coated my friend's new City. One pass with Flex paired with Opt Red Foam + Opt Hyper Polish. Ok, Flex not mine... Borrowed from shop.

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Looking real good there. OEM orange peel actually still ok la, can still live with it haha. But I notice Proton Saga's orange peel is too heavy even for a new car.

You are using the Flex PE14? How much that baby cost?

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Lol.. Once hentam update ya.. Want to know also..
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Another thing.. Is it advisable to remove orange peel then apply OOC?
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QUOTE(ZeroSP @ Sep 22 2014, 05:57 PM)
Like I mentioned that day when we met, it looks good but too much to sacrifice. I'd rather live with it lol.
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Saw that orange peel on your friend's car.. Not sure I can live with that on mine.. thinking.. thinking.. thinking.. rclxub.gif
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Guys....let me give you a little push.... tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif

Before....note the OP on the un-sanded portion
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Using these...
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On average, ONLY around 3~4 microns of clear coat removed by sanding...
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...and around another 1 micron of paint removed from compounding....
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Spot the difference? Not 100%...but far better than before...
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Moving forward a few months...got myself some sanding disc and this time using an ROB....
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After compounding....roxx, check out the 'finish' from Trizact p3000 sanding disc
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End result...
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This was a few years back. All in all I've already sanded my waja twice. So far haven't punch through the clear coat yet and the paint is still healthy. Even the front engine bonnet which had seen lots and lots of testing of compounds/polishes is still with its original paintwork. Paint thickness is still above 100 microns throughout the car.

Fast forward today, my waja has develops quite some swirls and marring since I haven't had the chance to give her another round of pampering. But, with the reduction of OP, standing at a distance, even with all the swirls and dirt on it, the paint still look *almost* like new....
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Looking real good there. OEM orange peel actually still ok la, can still live with it haha. But I notice Proton Saga's orange peel is too heavy even for a new car.

You are using the Flex PE14? How much that baby cost?
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Flex XC3401 bro... Here around RM2.3K last heard.
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The inspiration I got from looking at krismas handy work...

Your house is big bro. thumbup.gif
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Flex XC3401 bro... Here around RM2.3K last heard.
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I see, I thought you were using the double sided red foam at first that's why I thought it's rotary. RM2.3K, I think I prefer it over Rupes which around the same range biggrin.gif
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Your house is big bro.  thumbup.gif
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Aiyo...cheap one in the outskirts only ma....
After which can only afford local and China made car.... cry.gif cry.gif
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Poison Poison  ph34r.gif  ph34r.gif  ph34r.gif
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If wanna try opti is like moving to a new line... cry.gif


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THat Opti-Coat not sure what is it i saw the price tag, i need tie my stomach! shocking.gif


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thumbup.gif thumbup.gif Nice thing, until now im able to get 2000 sand paper only. Where u get 2500k?
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Since everyone is into orange peel removal now, let me give a lil bit of minor push too biggrin.gif

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Using velvet pad with compound via Dewalt rotary.
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thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  Nice thing, until now im able to get 2000 sand paper only. Where u get 2500k?
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Mine are Megs Unigrit, brought in by a friend coming back from the US loooooong time ago. Have you tried calling up Osren? I think they also have some good quality Nikkens and also others....
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1st attempt at OP removal on scrapped Civic hood. Sanded with hardware shop sandpaper 1500 > 2000. Compound with Osren compound to remove sanding marks and finally polished. I suspect i removed quite a bit of clear coat in the process but since it's scrapped panel biggrin.gif

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THat Opti-Coat not sure what is it i saw the price tag, i need tie my stomach!  shocking.gif
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What's the current local price tag anyway? Oh...and there are other options..... whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif
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Literally transformed your ride into a moving mirror now notworthy.gif Mad respect man.
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Mine are Megs Unigrit, brought in by a friend coming back from the US loooooong time ago. Have you tried calling up Osren? I think they also have some good quality Nikkens and also others....
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Wow, i thought no one using Unigrit no dare to ask. But reading through other forums it sounds not that bad. I havent really expose to KL detailing industry like Osren and Opti yet im always in Meguirs. Maybe i should try calling up to get the sand paper. Need to touch up all this. shakehead.gif

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Wow, i thought no one using Unigrit no dare to ask. But reading through other forums it sounds not that bad. I havent really expose to KL detailing industry like Osren and Opti yet im always in Meguirs. Maybe i should try calling up to get the sand paper. Need to touch up all this.  shakehead.gif
Then you should give Osren a call or drop down at their place for a visit, very friendly folks over there. Megs may be superior in chemicals and abrasives, but Osren has quite an impressive line up of tools, cloths, accessories, etc. at very decent pricing.
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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Sep 23 2014, 10:32 AM)
Then you should give Osren a call or drop down at their place for a visit, very friendly folks over there. Megs may be superior in chemicals and abrasives, but Osren has quite an impressive line up of tools, cloths, accessories, etc. at very decent pricing.
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Sounds cool, wanna drop meet up and drop by together? unsure.gif
But I like to ask a lot one leh me KIASU KIASU!
Oh yea my tools coming next month... Where can i get 3inch backing plate? So i can use the pad from the DA polisher! icon_idea.gif
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Lol.. Pushing me to wetsand ya.. I rikeee.. How I wish I have the PTG so that I can monitor my CC condition.. (ayat mau pinjam PTG sweat.gif )


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I nubis also.. Just trying to use OPT product..

You stay around cheras IINM.. You can get Makita at roundabout taman muda.. Call Ms Yen from Soon Heng sdn bhd distributor for Makita - 03 4297 6898.. But the price as last time i checked RM890..

Where do you get 2000 sand paper?

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Fuuuu... Nice... drool.gif

I have velvet pad.. Is it easy to use?

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Wahlao.. now everyone pushing for sanding process.. you all make my hand itchy wehh..

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What's the current local price tag anyway? Oh...and there are other options..... whistling.gif  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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you mean this? tongue.gif tongue.gif

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Lol.. Pushing me to wetsand ya.. I rikeee.. How I wish I have the PTG so that I can monitor my CC condition.. (ayat mau pinjam PTG  sweat.gif  )
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I nubis also.. Just trying to use OPT product..

You stay around cheras IINM.. You can get Makita at roundabout taman muda.. Call Ms Yen from Soon Heng sdn bhd distributor for Makita - 03 4297 6898.. But the price as last time i checked RM890..

Where do you get 2000 sand paper?

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Fuuuu... Nice...  drool.gif

I have velvet pad.. Is it easy to use?

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Wahlao.. now everyone pushing for sanding process.. you all make my hand itchy wehh..
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Haha.. But OPT so expensive doh.gif doh.gif

I already order the Makita. Much cheaper! brows.gif

I get it from my friend who work in a maintainance company. U wan i can get for you but a bit exp. RM3.

By the way Velvet Pad cuts alot man i feel that... shakehead.gif shakehead.gif But i heart no doubt just to ask since the velvet pad cuts a lot can it cut orange peels?

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Haha.. But OPT so expensive  doh.gif  doh.gif

Depends on 'type' of washing you're looking for.. I'm looking into something fast and easy but able to clean thoroughly..

I already order the Makita. Much cheaper! brows.gif

Uik? where you get it? U might want to share as most of us are looking into makita if the price cheaper than others..
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I get it from my friend who work in a maintainance company. U wan i can get for you but a bit exp. RM3.

Right now still in 'thinking' mode..  rclxub.gif

By the way Velvet Pad cuts alot man i feel that...  shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif But i heart no doubt just to ask since the velvet pad cuts a lot can it cut orange peels?

I've seen a lot of detailers use velvet pad to level OP.. 1 of the master told me that using sand paper 'easier to control' i/o velvet pad.. So I just keep my VP first..
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Lol.. Pushing me to wetsand ya.. I rikeee.. How I wish I have the PTG so that I can monitor my CC condition.. (ayat mau pinjam PTG  sweat.gif  )
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I nubis also.. Just trying to use OPT product..

You stay around cheras IINM.. You can get Makita at roundabout taman muda.. Call Ms Yen from Soon Heng sdn bhd distributor for Makita - 03 4297 6898.. But the price as last time i checked RM890..

Where do you get 2000 sand paper?

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Fuuuu... Nice...  drool.gif

I have velvet pad.. Is it easy to use?

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Wahlao.. now everyone pushing for sanding process.. you all make my hand itchy wehh..
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Hmm how to describe. Not as smooth as polishing the paint that's for sure. The velvet pad won't exactly glide smooth on the paint and the fact you need a steady and constantly moving the buffer and also evenly cover the entire panel. Mind you, the panel gets real hot after that. I'm on 1400rpm. For edge and corner, I switch to small 3" velvet pad and with the small pad, much more easier to control.
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Sounds cool, wanna drop meet up and drop by together? unsure.gif
But I like to ask a lot one leh me KIASU KIASU!
Oh yea my tools coming next month... Where can i get 3inch backing plate? So i can use the pad from the DA polisher!  icon_idea.gif
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Just drop by there and look for Hendry. Sell my name if you want...and ask away. I've once brought one of the members here and we spend like around 2 hrs there...Q&A sessions....hahaha....

You should be able to get the 3" backing plate from them...they have Lake Country, Buff and Shine, etc.

QUOTE(roxx @ Sep 23 2014, 10:44 AM)
Lol.. Pushing me to wetsand ya.. I rikeee.. How I wish I have the PTG so that I can monitor my CC condition.. (ayat mau pinjam PTG  sweat.gif  )
No problem with that....but I need to find out who's holding on to it though....hahahah....

QUOTE(roxx @ Sep 23 2014, 10:52 AM)
you mean this?  tongue.gif  tongue.gif

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Aiyo....that's paint la. I'm referring to other types of coating....like 22ple, Sonax, ArtDeShine, DG Nano Glass, etc. can now buy locally and DIY already....
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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Sep 23 2014, 11:02 AM)
Just drop by there and look for Hendry. Sell my name if you want...and ask away. I've once brought one of the members here and we spend like around 2 hrs there...Q&A sessions....hahaha....

You should be able to get the 3" backing plate from them...they have Lake Country, Buff and Shine, etc.
No problem with that....but I need to find out who's holding on to it though....hahahah....
Aiyo....that's paint la. I'm referring to other types of coating....like 22ple, Sonax, ArtDeShine, DG Nano Glass, etc. can now buy locally and DIY already....
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Hmm how to describe. Not as smooth as polishing the paint that's for sure. The velvet pad won't exactly glide smooth on the paint and the fact you need a steady and constantly moving the buffer and also evenly cover the entire panel. Mind you, the panel gets real hot after that. I'm on 1400rpm. For edge and corner, I switch to small 3" velvet pad and with the small pad, much more easier to control.
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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Sep 23 2014, 11:02 AM)
Aiyo....that's paint la. I'm referring to other types of coating....like 22ple, Sonax, ArtDeShine, DG Nano Glass, etc. can now buy locally and DIY already....
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Lol.. At first I was so shocked to see aeon selling this.. later only know it's different.. doh.gif

Master, may I know the 'durability' of all products you listed here?


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Master, may I know the 'durability' of all products you listed here?
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That's a very subjective and difficult question to answer......... sweat.gif sweat.gif

Just put it this way la...if properly maintained, all these coatings can easily go through the 1 year mark. I have the 22ple VX1 Pro on my current ride and it's still beading and sheeting cleanly after 2 1/2 years, but the horizontal panel barely scrape through the 2 yrs mark....though I blame that to the crazy haze and dry spell that we had early this year.

But these coatings aren't 'bullet proof' and they're also prone to water marks and wash marring. Although still beading and sheeting water very well, I can see swirls has developed on my car and soon, I'd need to remove the coating and re-apply. So, even if the coating do last very long, they aren't swirl/damage-proof. I'm of the opinion that people like us don't really need to spend money for something that can last 3 years, or 5 years or 'permanent' coatings. It's just an alternative to normal wax/sealant so as to provide a TEMPORARY protection for the paint. To me, the main advantage of these coatings is you don't need to re-apply them as often as normal wax/sealants. The thickness and hardness of the coatings also provide SOME advantage against normal wax/sealant but the main reason is what I've stated before.
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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Sep 23 2014, 11:46 AM)
That's a very subjective and difficult question to answer......... sweat.gif  sweat.gif

Just put it this way la...if properly maintained, all these coatings can easily go through the 1 year mark. I have the 22ple VX1 Pro on my current ride and it's still beading and sheeting cleanly after 2 1/2 years, but the horizontal panel barely scrape through the 2 yrs mark....though I blame that to the crazy haze and dry spell that we had early this year.

But these coatings aren't 'bullet proof' and they're also prone to water marks and wash marring. Although still beading and sheeting water very well, I can see swirls has developed on my car and soon, I'd need to remove the coating and re-apply. So, even if the coating do last very long, they aren't swirl/damage-proof. I'm of the opinion that people like us don't really need to spend money for something that can last 3 years, or 5 years or 'permanent' coatings. It's just an alternative to normal wax/sealant so as to provide a TEMPORARY protection for the paint. To me, the main advantage of these coatings is you don't need to re-apply them as often as normal wax/sealants. The thickness and hardness of the coatings also provide SOME advantage against normal wax/sealant but the main reason is what I've stated before.
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I see, I thought you were using the double sided red foam at first that's why I thought it's rotary. RM2.3K, I think I prefer it over Rupes which around the same range biggrin.gif
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My friend who had his car done with opti-coat, the front hood beading gone after 1 year. The roof degrade after 1 year.

The rest of the vertical panel still ok.

The car is coming into 2 years now after application.

He doesn't detail his car like me, just washed with Meg's only on a weekly basis.

Recently just helped him to apply Iron Gloss from Dodo Juice on front hood, can see that he was kind of disappointed with the Opti-Coat on the front hood. Back then kena me brain washed so hard, but the result is not as what promised.

He in only driving a hybrid, wonder how other cars would experience...
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QUOTE(MyWifeCar @ Sep 23 2014, 12:34 PM)
My friend who had his car done with opti-coat, the front hood beading gone after 1 year. The roof degrade after 1 year.

The rest of the vertical panel still ok.

The car is coming into 2 years now after application.

He doesn't detail his car like me, just washed with Meg's only on a weekly basis.

Recently just helped him to apply Iron Gloss from Dodo Juice on front hood, can see that he was kind of disappointed with the Opti-Coat on the front hood. Back then kena me brain washed so hard, but the result is not as what promised.

He in only driving a hybrid, wonder how other cars would experience...
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Now that's weird... My car has been on Opti Coat 5 years, wanna see the beading?
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QUOTE(MyWifeCar @ Sep 23 2014, 12:34 PM)
My friend who had his car done with opti-coat, the front hood beading gone after 1 year. The roof degrade after 1 year.

The rest of the vertical panel still ok.

The car is coming into 2 years now after application.

He doesn't detail his car like me, just washed with Meg's only on a weekly basis.

Recently just helped him to apply Iron Gloss from Dodo Juice on front hood, can see that he was kind of disappointed with the Opti-Coat on the front hood. Back then kena me brain washed so hard, but the result is not as what promised.

He in only driving a hybrid, wonder how other cars would experience...
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His car is wearing the consumer version opti-coat 2.0 or the optimum coating aka opti-guard aka opti-coat pro?
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QUOTE(ZeroSP @ Sep 23 2014, 01:16 PM)
Now that's weird... My car has been on Opti Coat 5 years, wanna see the beading?
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Bro, if you wash your car with either ONR or OCWash then it won't be a fair comparison....those two stuffs are loaded with beading 'enhancing' polymer. Even bare panel would bead after using either of the products.

I would love to see the beading effect of OOC after multiple wipes with IPA or OPC....now that would be very convincing indeed.
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Bro, if you wash your car with either ONR or OCWash then it won't be a fair comparison....those two stuffs are loaded with beading 'enhancing' polymer. Even bare panel would bead after using either of the products.

I would love to see the beading effect of OOC after multiple wipes with IPA or OPC....now that would be very convincing indeed.
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Right well then, I rest my case since I used ONR and OCWash. But Opti Coat can withstand OPC and other APC no? Ok maybe the beading might affect, which I not sure. Since people usually re-wash the whole car.

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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Sep 23 2014, 02:03 PM)
Bro, if you wash your car with either ONR or OCWash then it won't be a fair comparison....those two stuffs are loaded with beading 'enhancing' polymer. Even bare panel would bead after using either of the products.

I would love to see the beading effect of OOC after multiple wipes with IPA or OPC....now that would be very convincing indeed.
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QUOTE(ZeroSP @ Sep 23 2014, 02:09 PM)
Right well then, I rest my case since I used ONR and OCWash. But Opti Coat can withstand OPC and other APC no? Ok maybe the beading might affect, which I not sure. Since people usually re-wash the whole car.
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CONFUSED!

WHats ONR/OOC/IPA/OPC and etc?  rclxub.gif
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ONR - http://www.optimumcarcare.com/onrwns.php?li=2 or http://www.optimumcarcare.com/onrwnw.php?li=2
OOC - http://www.optimumcarcare.com/oclean.php?li=2

Wax, Polish removal
IPA - http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/show...ad.php?t=104498

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OPC - http://www.optimumcarcare.com/opclean.php?li=12
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Thanks for the info... But IPA what kind of IPA we talking about? Is there any brand? hmm.gif

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Thanks for the info... But IPA what kind of IPA we talking about? Is there any brand?  :hmm:
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I dont think we have 'brand' for IPA.. Correct me if im wrong..

I bought IPA from forumer here..


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Thanks for the info... But IPA what kind of IPA we talking about? Is there any brand?  hmm.gif
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Right well then, I rest my case since I used ONR and OCWash. But Opti Coat can withstand OPC and other APC no? Ok maybe the beading might affect, which I not sure. Since people usually re-wash the whole car.
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Yeah...I have no doubt OOC can withstand OPC or other APC, but so does many other good quality coatings. Maybe you should try it yourself...aren't you a bit curious? Cuz I definitely am. Diluted IPA is a very mild solvent and it should be able to remove the weaker type of polymer/wax/sealant without compromising the coating underneath. It also doesn't contain any surfactant that would be left on the surface and 'change' the behavior of the surface.

The other thing the I find is, the polymer in either ONR or OCWash are very 'attracted' to the other Optimum waxes or sealants, namely OCWax and Opti Seal...kinda complimentary to each other - boosting beading and durability. But using either ONR or OCWash on other waxes/sealants didn't have that much of an effect. That's why I like OCWash very much back then cuz when any wax/sealant is getting weak, OCWash would be able to give the durability a little boost when I don't have the time to top up.

Another thing, if I may suggest, to try. Try spreading a little bit of OCWash CONCENTRATED (not diluted with water) onto a small section of your test panel or any panel/section, then just let it dry under the sun or something for a few hours. Wash away leftovers afterwards and see the effect...just like you've just waxed the section. That's how much polymer in OCWash.
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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Sep 23 2014, 03:38 PM)
Yeah...I have no doubt OOC can withstand OPC or other APC, but so does many other good quality coatings. Maybe you should try it yourself...aren't you a bit curious? Cuz I definitely am. Diluted IPA is a very mild solvent and it should be able to remove the weaker type of polymer/wax/sealant without compromising the coating underneath. It also doesn't contain any surfactant that would be left on the surface and 'change' the behavior of the surface.

The other thing the I find is, the polymer in either ONR or OCWash are very 'attracted' to the other Optimum waxes or sealants, namely OCWax and Opti Seal...kinda complimentary to each other - boosting beading and durability. But using either ONR or OCWash on other waxes/sealants didn't have that much of an effect. That's why I like OCWash very much back then cuz when any wax/sealant is getting weak, OCWash would be able to give the durability a little boost when I don't have the time to top up.

Another thing, if I may suggest, to try. Try spreading a little bit of OCWash CONCENTRATED (not diluted with water) onto a small section of your test panel or any panel/section, then just let it dry under the sun or something for a few hours. Wash away leftovers afterwards and see the effect...just like you've just waxed the section. That's how much polymer in OCWash.
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Well I don't have any IPA with me now but just Carpro Eraser. But it pretty much works the same I think.

P/S: roxx ONR can act as water softener to certain degree.
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P/S: roxx ONR can act as water softener to certain degree.
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Ok. This stirred my curiosity again. Not directed to you in particular ya....How to know when the water has been 'softened'?
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QUOTE(roxx @ Sep 23 2014, 03:22 PM)
I dont think we have 'brand' for IPA.. Correct me if im wrong..

I bought IPA from forumer here..
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Its a general chemical which manufacture by alot of companies, you get it from some of the pharmacy else buy from LYN forum here.
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KrisMas Btw with regards to your earlier posting on wetsanding with ROB, may I know where you did get the trizact sanding discs from? They are reusable right?
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KrisMas Btw with regards to your earlier posting on wetsanding with ROB, may I know where you did get the trizact sanding discs from? They are reusable right?
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Thats from 3M right? hmm.gif
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KrisMas Btw with regards to your earlier posting on wetsanding with ROB, may I know where you did get the trizact sanding discs from? They are reusable right?
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QUOTE(kalvinkhoo @ Sep 23 2014, 04:27 PM)
Thats from 3M right?  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(thom_chai @ Sep 23 2014, 02:01 PM)
His car is wearing the consumer version opti-coat 2.0 or the optimum coating aka opti-guard aka opti-coat pro?
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Was told it was Opti-Coat before apply.
Well, it was done by the brand owner himself, guess it should not be the issue of application. The car was only 3 months old.

This is my own experience and also of my friend, who knows nothing about detailing. How others experienced it maybe different. Not sure if there is anyone else that can share...

Maybe what krismas said is correct, the Optimum shampoo helps in retaining or adding the durability of the coat. Should have told my friend this... He refused to use ONR simply because no bubbles sweat.gif

But I was thinking, why not the vertical panel while only horizontal panel that was affected only... Is it heat issue or what..?

Actually I was told of the warranty period, but since nothing in hand-writting, should I go back to the detailer?

What would shops/detailers do in issue like this? Re-apply the coat?
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QUOTE(roxx @ Sep 23 2014, 03:22 PM)
I dont think we have 'brand' for IPA.. Correct me if im wrong..

I bought IPA from forumer here..
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I failed my chemistry even at uni stage...

I think IPA is the nama bahan kimia, for branding purpose you may find something like "Pre wax cleaner" "Eraser" "Remover" etc.

Just that since most of the detailers are OCD-ed, they prefer it "pure". biggrin.gif Hence they will use those that meant for makmal level kind of cleaning agent.
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Was told it was Opti-Coat before apply.
Well, it was done by the brand owner himself, guess it should not be the issue of application. The car was only 3 months old.

This is my own experience and also of my friend, who knows nothing about detailing. How others experienced it maybe different. Not sure if there is anyone else that can share...

Maybe what krismas said is correct, the Optimum shampoo helps in retaining or adding the durability of the coat. Should have told my friend this... He refused to use ONR simply because no bubbles    sweat.gif

But I was thinking, why not the vertical panel while only horizontal panel that was affected only... Is it heat issue or what..?

Actually I was told of the warranty period, but since nothing in hand-writting, should I go back to the detailer?

What would shops/detailers do in issue like this? Re-apply the coat?
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Sounds convincing with ONR after applying Opti-Coat. Well i havent use ONR yet u mean ONR not producing any foam at all?

krismas I always use Meguairs Gold Class Car Wash, would it affect the Opti Coat if one day I plan to coat on the body? hmm.gif

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Which thread u got from? Maybe a link i can have a look.  biggrin.gif
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Ok. This stirred my curiosity again. Not directed to you in particular ya....How to know when the water has been 'softened'?
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Ok well, according to Autogeek forum, whereby in certain areas many people need to deal with hard water, as in even when they washing their car with any their favorite shampoo, they needed to rinse real often else the waterspots etch in like within minutes. Adding one cap of ONR helps "soften" the water for them.

Alright, I better stop lol... Too many Meg's die hard and anti OPT here.
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Was told it was Opti-Coat before apply.
Well, it was done by the brand owner himself, guess it should not be the issue of application. The car was only 3 months old.

This is my own experience and also of my friend, who knows nothing about detailing. How others experienced it maybe different. Not sure if there is anyone else that can share...

Maybe what krismas said is correct, the Optimum shampoo helps in retaining or adding the durability of the coat. Should have told my friend this... He refused to use ONR simply because no bubbles    sweat.gif

But I was thinking, why not the vertical panel while only horizontal panel that was affected only... Is it heat issue or what..?

Actually I was told of the warranty period, but since nothing in hand-writting, should I go back to the detailer?

What would shops/detailers do in issue like this? Re-apply the coat?
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Your detailer will have do a proper cleaning of the car for re-inspection, if it is not performed like it should be, he should redo the coating for you, along with any paint correction/preparation that is necessary.
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QUOTE(kalvinkhoo @ Sep 23 2014, 05:02 PM)
Sounds convincing with ONR after applying Opti-Coat. Well i havent use ONR yet u mean ONR not producing any foam at all?

krismas I always use Meguairs Gold Class Car Wash, would it affect the Opti Coat if one day I plan to coat on the body?   hmm.gif
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ONR do not produce bubbles like those "snow car wash"... Well, telling someone noob on detailing is like that, no bubbles mean not clean, period. I still laugh even though he is my best friend, hysterically. biggrin.gif

Well, there are plenty of other coating that is easily available in the market. But if you want to try Opti-coat, then should probably use ONR or optimum related products... since it can prolong the durability of the coating, maybe. I say maybe because so far don't see much feedback on the post application.

Maybe paint coating is not a really good idea to detailers, like me and quazacolt. Even after apply paint coat, I still wash my car and wax it like crazy... biggrin.gif

I am not OCD.

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QUOTE(MyWifeCar @ Sep 23 2014, 04:55 PM)
But I was thinking, why not the vertical panel while only horizontal panel that was affected only... Is it heat issue or what..?
From what I understand, Opti Coat is polymer/acrylic type of coating...so they inherit the same problem as acrylic paint - expanding when hot and contracting when cold. In our weather, this would translate to opening up of the pores and trapping minute particles of dirt. More prone on horizontal panels as dirt/water on horizontal surfaces won't run off as easily as vertical panels. Even my VX1 and normal waxes/sealants lasted far longer on vertical panels as compared to horizontal panels.

QUOTE(kalvinkhoo @ Sep 23 2014, 05:02 PM)
krismas I always use Meguairs Gold Class Car Wash, would it affect the Opti Coat if one day I plan to coat on the body?  hmm.gif
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Not too sure about this...but I highly doubt it. But if it does, there's definitely something wrong with Opti Coat. Anyway, just something to note. The beading/sheeting effect of most coatings are normally on its upper most layer. Like Opti Coat, the beading/sheeting may deteriorate due to contamination of its upper most layer, but the protection is still there. If the coating is good enough, you can actually 'deep clean' the surface and the beading/sheeting would come back.

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Alright, I better stop lol... Too many Meg's die hard and anti OPT here.
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Hey...I'm fond of Optimum products too man....and still an avid user of some of them. Just that I don't like how some people are over-hyping their products.....

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QUOTE(g88 @ Sep 23 2014, 05:02 PM)
SOrry sorry i scared got wrong info hehe. DOes it need to be diluted or can be use directly?

QUOTE(ZeroSP @ Sep 23 2014, 05:03 PM)
Ok well, according to Autogeek forum, whereby in certain areas many people need to deal with hard water, as in even when they washing their car with any their favorite shampoo, they needed to rinse real often else the waterspots etch in like within minutes. Adding one cap of ONR helps "soften" the water for them.

Alright, I better stop lol... Too many Meg's die hard and anti OPT here.
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QUOTE(MyWifeCar @ Sep 23 2014, 05:09 PM)
ONR do not produce bubbles like those "snow car wash"... Well, telling someone noob on detailing is like that, no bubbles mean not clean, period. I still laugh even though he is my best friend, hysterically.  biggrin.gif

Well, there are plenty of other coating that is easily available in the market. But if you want to try Opti-coat, then should probably use ONR or optimum related products... since it can prolong the durability of the coating, maybe. I say maybe because so far don't see much feedback on the post application.

Maybe paint coating is not a really good idea to detailers, like me and quazacolt. Even after apply paint coat, I still wash my car and wax it like crazy...  biggrin.gif

I am not OCD.
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Agree about that, i keep on find free time to wash my car. Worried that it will fade faster. But now days been busy i only able to wash after 9-12 days. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Sep 23 2014, 05:26 PM)
From what I understand, Opti Coat is polymer/acrylic type of coating...so they inherit the same problem as acrylic paint - expanding when hot and contracting when cold. In our weather, this would translate to opening up of the pores and trapping minute particles of dirt. More prone on horizontal panels as dirt/water on horizontal surfaces won't run off as easily as vertical panels. Even my VX1 and normal waxes/sealants lasted far longer on vertical panels as compared to horizontal panels.
Not too sure about this...but I highly doubt it. But if it does, there's definitely something wrong with Opti Coat. Anyway, just something to note. The beading/sheeting effect of most coatings are normally on its upper most layer. Like Opti Coat, the beading/sheeting may deteriorate due to contamination of its upper most layer, but the protection is still there. If the coating is good enough, you can actually 'deep clean' the surface and the beading/sheeting would come back.
Hey...I'm fond of Optimum products too man....and still an avid user of some of them. Just that I don't like how some people are over-hyping their products.....

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Well I sure hope I ain't over hyping, but just sharing info since I used them a lot. It is just like Megs has been here longer than Optimum, so everywhere you only see people knowing 105/205 compounds, and they totally saying the likes of Hyper Polish is crap (due to not knowing what it is). Likewise, my car has Opti Coat therefore I would like to see how far I can keep it going.

The other cars in my household, I feel free to play around with the likes of Duragloss Enviroshield, CQuartz, Ultima Paint Guard Plus.
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ONR do not produce bubbles like those "snow car wash"... Well, telling someone noob on detailing is like that, no bubbles mean not clean, period. I still laugh even though he is my best friend, hysterically.  biggrin.gif

Well, there are plenty of other coating that is easily available in the market. But if you want to try Opti-coat, then should probably use ONR or optimum related products... since it can prolong the durability of the coating, maybe. I say maybe because so far don't see much feedback on the post application.

Maybe paint coating is not a really good idea to detailers, like me and quazacolt. Even after apply paint coat, I still wash my car and wax it like crazy...  biggrin.gif

I am not OCD.
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Alright, I better stop lol... Too many Meg's die hard and anti OPT here.
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QUOTE(MyWifeCar @ Sep 23 2014, 05:09 PM)
ONR do not produce bubbles like those "snow car wash"... Well, telling someone noob on detailing is like that, no bubbles mean not clean, period. I still laugh even though he is my best friend, hysterically.  biggrin.gif

Well, there are plenty of other coating that is easily available in the market. But if you want to try Opti-coat, then should probably use ONR or optimum related products... since it can prolong the durability of the coating, maybe. I say maybe because so far don't see much feedback on the post application.

Maybe paint coating is not a really good idea to detailers, like me and quazacolt. Even after apply paint coat, I still wash my car and wax it like crazy...  biggrin.gif

I am not OCD.
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but seriously, the last time i wash my car was months ago, so lol.
and when the wax/sealant/topping still last, f*** coatings la laugh.gif
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but seriously, the last time i wash my car was months ago, so lol.
and when the wax/sealant/topping still last, f*** coatings la laugh.gif
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I hope I can do it like you, but... But... At most 10 days I betahan already, even a fast wash I will do.
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I hope I can do it like you, but... But... At most 10 days I betahan already, even a fast wash I will do.
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but seriously, the last time i wash my car was months ago, so lol.
and when the wax/sealant/topping still last, f*** coatings la laugh.gif
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Actually it is an experience too on how to apply coating... But i find it rather more pleasing to apply if you have someone to help you doing the buffing. biggrin.gif

Still have 1 bottle 30ml with me ... GTechniq.
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OPT fans here wave.gif Well, I'm not selective or particular brand alone. Just find something useful and use it often. Anyway, finally got the opportunity to polish and opti-coat a truck last week...

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It has been one week since the application. Will give it a wash this weekend and looking forward to seeing the insane beading biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ZeroSP @ Sep 23 2014, 07:06 PM)
Well I sure hope I ain't over hyping, but just sharing info since I used them a lot. It is just like Megs has been here longer than Optimum, so everywhere you only see people knowing 105/205 compounds, and they totally saying the likes of Hyper Polish is crap (due to not knowing what it is).  Likewise, my car has Opti Coat therefore I would like to see how far I can keep it going.

The other cars in my household, I feel free to play around with the likes of Duragloss Enviroshield, CQuartz, Ultima Paint Guard Plus.
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Thanks for still sticking around. Any info shared from somebody who's been long using a particular product from a particular brand is very much appreciated. I for one, am getting old and a little tired of trying out and comparing such and such products so that people can get a more un-biased info instead of getting them straight from the seller/marketeer or brand representatives. Furthermore, recently there's been quite a surge of new products coming out from several manufacturers and, damn they're getting more and more attractive....

Just keep an open mind bro. There's really no such thing as THE best product or THE best technique/method; there's only what's BEST SUITED to each individuals when it comes to personal use. Commercial professionals, and especially those who are committed to a particular brand, has the responsibilities to push their product and utilies the products strong points to the fullest. Most would withhold the products' weaknesses so that others won't take advantage of those weaknesses to gain that certain commercial edge. So, in other word, when it comes to the already established brands, it's not about the brand/product, it's about the person representing them.

Here in the DIY world, we look for both the strong points and the weaknesses and relay/share that info so that others can make a more 'educative' decisions based on their own personal preferences and limitations.

Again, keep an open mind. Such is the proverb: ""天上有天, 人上有人".

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OPT fans here  wave.gif Well, I'm not selective or particular brand alone. Just find something useful and use it often. Anyway, finally got the opportunity to polish and opti-coat a truck last week...

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It has been one week since the application. Will give it a wash this weekend and looking forward to seeing the insane beading biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(thom_chai @ Sep 24 2014, 08:52 AM)
OPT fans here  wave.gif Well, I'm not selective or particular brand alone. Just find something useful and use it often. Anyway, finally got the opportunity to polish and opti-coat a truck last week...

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It has been one week since the application. Will give it a wash this weekend and looking forward to seeing the insane beading biggrin.gif
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to be honest i think most, if not all of us are very open here.
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+1 If we're brand specific we'd only go to Optimum Forums, Meguiars Forums, etc...

People start with Turtle Wax / Meguiars / etc because it's readily available over the counter in Malaysia, incl myself. I'm sure lots of forum sleepers or newbies like me come to these forums and learn the products and techniques from all you folks - professionals and weekend warriors alike.

So keep the feedback and advice flowing thumbup.gif

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i'm just lazy la, lazy is not good sweat.gif
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Again, keep an open mind. Such is the proverb: ""天上有天, 人上有天".
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krismas still got chinese proverb ... ?

BTW, I think you have tried CeramicPro before. Where did you get it from? Can share more on the application, possible durability?

My friend is going for one, and they claim it is permanent. I was like shocking.gif

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holy shit you actually know mandarin in text and not just speech? shocking.gif notworthy.gif

but yeah completely agree with this nod.gif
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At least it's not your name  whistling.gif
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QUOTE(MyWifeCar @ Sep 24 2014, 12:49 PM)
krismas still got chinese proverb ... ?

BTW, I think you have tried CeramicPro before. Where did you get it from? Can share more on the application, possible durability?

My friend is going for one, and they claim it is permanent. I was like  shocking.gif
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Heheh....still remember some little bit and pieces of them....
(ps: oh....and I edited a little mistake on the last character there....should be "人" instead of "天"...my bad)

Aha....Choose NanoTech CeramicPro 9H. Got it from a seller/marketeer who came by the car wash below my office a while back. RM230/50ml bottle. Try calling him up again to get the sealant but the number is already out of service. It's quite an ok coating....comparable to CQuartz but just a little bit easier to apply but not as easy as DDJ IS. Got it past the 6 months mark before heavy watermarks started to develop (not washing off) and contaminants started to stick onto it. Beading was still there when I tried cleaning the watermarks up with some Megs WB then it just went totally flat. I'd say it's one of those 2yrs ceramic coatings type...quite durable in our weather with 'normal' washing every week...but need to watch out for water spots. I think it would be much better if your friend can also get their Nano Coat (which is the sealant) put on top of the coating....should be able to minimise damages caused by waterspots.

Permanent eh? Well...I've read their fb descriptions....3yrs....5yrs...and lifetime warranty. I'm guessing those warranty comes in maintenance packages whereby you'd need to strictly adhered to. I wonder whether the detailing centre itself would even be running for that long....

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Heheh....still remember some little bit and pieces of them....
(ps: oh....and I edited a little mistake on the last character there....should be "人" instead of "天"...my bad)

Aha....Choose NanoTech CeramicPro 9H. Got it from a seller/marketeer who came by the car wash below my office a while back. RM230/50ml bottle. Try calling him up again to get the sealant but the number is already out of service. It's quite an ok coating....comparable to CQuartz but just a little bit easier to apply but not as easy as DDJ IS. Got it past the 6 months mark before heavy watermarks started to develop (not washing off) and contaminants started to stick onto it. Beading was still there when I tried cleaning the watermarks up with some Megs WB then it just went totally flat. I'd say it's one of those 2yrs ceramic coatings type...quite durable in our weather with 'normal' washing every week...but need to watch out for water spots. I think it would be much better if your friend can also get their Nano Coat (which is the sealant) put on top of the coating....should be able to minimise damages caused by waterspots.

Permanent eh? Well...I've read their fb descriptions....3yrs....5yrs...and lifetime warranty. I'm guessing those warranty comes in maintenance packages whereby you'd need to strictly adhered to. I wonder whether the detailing centre itself would even be running for that long....
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errr, hi guys, need your help/opinion here..
today i did an engine bay wash again, on my family car AE101. the engine is like this:
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after the final rinsing, i used 2 hair dryer to blow dry. after like 10-15mins of blowing, it seems like everything is dried already. so i proceed to start the engine. engine start-up fine, no problem. so i just let it run for 5-10 mins like that to warm up the engine.

BUT to my horror cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif after like 5-6 mins of normal running, the engine shuts off by itself! and i've been unable to restart my engine since cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif any ideas which part possibly needs engine running 5 mins (vibration, etc) for the water to ingress??? cry.gif cry.gif

after the success of the first time engine wash on the other car, today is a disaster for me cry.gif cry.gif any help/advice/opinion is very much appreciated.
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Yes, I agree with what you said about CQ.Mine didn't get a very good result too... Maybe due to our weather? Because mine was CQ UK.
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errr, hi guys, need your help/opinion here..
today i did an engine bay wash again, on my family car AE101.  the engine is like this:
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after the final rinsing, i used 2 hair dryer to blow dry.  after like 10-15mins of blowing, it seems like everything is dried already.  so i proceed to start the engine.  engine start-up fine, no problem.  so i just let it run for 5-10 mins like that to warm up the engine.

BUT to my horror cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif after like 5-6 mins of normal running, the engine shuts off by itself!  and i've been unable to restart my engine since  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  any ideas which part possibly needs engine running 5 mins (vibration, etc) for the water to ingress??? cry.gif  cry.gif

after the success of the first time engine wash on the other car, today is a disaster for me cry.gif  cry.gif any help/advice/opinion is very much appreciated.
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Check your engine distributor. Could be moisture caught in it.
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where is that intake routed to? make sure no water gets into the engine (be it via intake or oil dip stick)

then check the alternator, consider using another car to jumpstart it, or spray some white lithium grease inside the alternator openings.
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Check your engine distributor. Could be moisture caught in it.
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the distributor looks properly covered.

heck i didnt even cover my iswara's distributor or my mom's sentra ignition coils also no problem tongue.gif tongue.gif
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https://plus.google.com/+JasonLimQuazacolt/posts/3ZPMB7k1TfW Came back from Lowyat Plaza, and did some wheel washing. Sadly, thanks to those stubborn tar stains, i spent almost 2 hours on this ONE wheel sad.gif
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the distributor looks properly covered.

heck i didnt even cover my iswara's distributor or my mom's sentra ignition coils also no problem tongue.gif tongue.gif
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Covered is one thing....when there is temp different between the OUTER and INNER of distributor it will create WAP air....

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My advice is open it up (usually 2 screw), CHECK is there any WAP air inside...you may spotted corrosion in it

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Clean them up with a screw driver.....and mist the whole cap inner part with WD40 and screw it back.....

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 25 2014, 02:52 AM)
https://plus.google.com/+JasonLimQuazacolt/posts/3ZPMB7k1TfW Came back from Lowyat Plaza, and did some wheel washing. Sadly, thanks to those stubborn tar stains, i spent almost 2 hours on this ONE wheel sad.gif
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If yours is a daily drive car, i see no point why you need so extreme cleaning...

Also WB is acidic cleaner which is not environment friendly, corrosive and also might kill your surface coating if long term of using it....

I've been stopped using WB and the balance now only dilute to between 1:10 - 1:20 for a very mild cleaning job (If really only needed)....

Rest i will just wash with shampoo....weekly

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WB FTW...!!! Errr....no Sonax this time around?
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If yours is a daily drive car, i see no point why you need so extreme cleaning...

Also WB is acidic cleaner which is not environment friendly, corrosive and also might kill your surface coating if long term of using it....

I've been stopped using WB and the balance now only dilute to between 1:10 - 1:20 for a very mild cleaning job (If really only needed)....

Rest i will just wash with shampoo....weekly
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i want to coat the wheels with sonax though so need to prep it

and yes my wb is 1:10
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WB FTW...!!! Errr....no Sonax this time around?
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wb muuucccchh cheaper than sonax tongue.gif
and i tend to spray them VERY deliberately lol, not to mention my sonax is already running low and haven't restock.

and i still have no source to buy it in gallon for me to burn them sad.gif

btw how does the sonax wheel cleaner work on tar? wb sure didn't work jack shit until i bring in bug and tar remover, then as it looks oily, i used SD to clean it up
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 25 2014, 04:29 PM)
btw how does the sonax wheel cleaner work on tar? wb sure didn't work jack shit until i bring in bug and tar remover, then as it looks oily, i used SD to clean it up
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Nope...doesn't work on tar. And yes, tar removers are normally 'oily' cuz they generally contain solvent/petroleum distillate with some 'oily' carrier to keep them from flashing/drying too fast.
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Nope...doesn't work on tar. And yes, tar removers are normally 'oily' cuz they generally contain solvent/petroleum distillate with some 'oily' carrier to keep them from flashing/drying too fast.
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Any tar remover does not contain petroleum?
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Nope...doesn't work on tar. And yes, tar removers are normally 'oily' cuz they generally contain solvent/petroleum distillate with some 'oily' carrier to keep them from flashing/drying too fast.
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much thanks for the info, save me from wasting the sonax notworthy.gif
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Any tar remover does not contain petroleum?
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Heavy citrus/d-Limonene based cleaner like OPC can remove tar too....albeit full strength and a tad bit slower...
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Heavy citrus/d-Limonene based cleaner like OPC can remove tar too....albeit full strength and a tad bit slower...
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Can I use household steamer that used to iron cloth to clean fabric seat? Just curios whether it can be done or not..

Was thinking to dilute water with APC into the container and just rub the seat.. Can it? sweat.gif

In another words sorry if this is a silly question.. tongue.gif
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Thanks
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My friend that I did the coating for him last week shared me some beading photos. roxx

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this is bodywork product. Why you need it ? Going to DIY self repair bodywork and paint ? biggrin.gif
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Can I use household steamer that used to iron cloth to clean fabric seat? Just curios whether it can be done or not..

Was thinking to dilute water with APC into the container and just rub the seat.. Can it?  sweat.gif

In another words sorry if this is a silly question..  tongue.gif
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I have one, I don't think it put out enough pressure to effectively clean anything but loose and thin fabric...mine can't even effectively clean tough stain on my cotton shirt. Maybe yours is different one so results may differ. I also bought a cheap 'pressure' steam cleaner that looks something like this:

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Works better but I still find using a foaming cleaner and brush cleans the fabric better.

Oh...I don't think adding any detergent into a steamer would be a good idea though. You might just be boiling all the water off and leave the rest of the chemicals behind in the reservoir.
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Errmm....no offense intended ya...but I think you and me have seen better beadings than that...especially those on the horizontal panels. What happened there? I'm guessing they're just beading pics taken after rain on not-so-clean surface.
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saw my previous picture on the wheel washing? my sonax bsd (topper, sealant) that's applied around February with last car wash around April or something? beads better after a rain from LYP with all the dirt that's never washed since months ago. tongue.gif

protection wise, if the BSD still works, the megs ULW underneath would definitely be there protecting.
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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Sep 26 2014, 09:38 AM)
Errmm....no offense intended ya...but I think you and me have seen better beadings than that...especially those on the horizontal panels. What happened there? I'm guessing they're just beading pics taken after rain on not-so-clean surface.
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drool.gif drool.gif Even with OP on that car it still look good.. notworthy.gif

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Thank You.. You got me right on the reservoir thing.. Never thought about that.. doh.gif


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Hi. Does anyone know where to get Nissan HItary 928 Poly Putty in the market? Is it available in Ace Hardware?

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Haven't seen them around ACE before but I've seen them in one auto-paint shop in Glenmarie, Shah Alam. Maybe you can ask the dealer Mercury Paint in Batu Caves:

http://www.mercurypaints.com/english/contactus.html

Just curious, what's so good about this putty as compared to others?
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QUOTE(ZeroSP @ Sep 26 2014, 06:02 AM)
My friend that I did the coating for him last week shared me some beading photos. roxx

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Bro u in cheras right? Have u jumpa any shops that selling detailing product?
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Bro u in cheras right? Have u jumpa any shops that selling detailing product?
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Goodwell is in Mahkota Square. They sell Chemical Guys and iGreenLover stuffs.....amongst others....expensive stuffs though.... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Sep 26 2014, 11:28 AM)
Goodwell is in Mahkota Square. They sell Chemical Guys and iGreenLover stuffs.....amongst others....expensive stuffs though.... sweat.gif
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Goodwell? Why I have feeling they sell china made rupes?

Anyway nvr been there before.. Will check on it later.. Thanks master..
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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Sep 26 2014, 09:38 AM)
Errmm....no offense intended ya...but I think you and me have seen better beadings than that...especially those on the horizontal panels. What happened there? I'm guessing they're just beading pics taken after rain on not-so-clean surface.
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Yup you are correct, all the way rain from PJ back to Klang.
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Wanna ask, anyone has any experience with GGuard coating??

For 2 layers coating the price is around RM2500. Is it worth it? Thanks.
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Wanna ask, anyone has any experience with GGuard coating??

For 2 layers coating the price is around RM2500. Is it worth it? Thanks.
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Bro u in cheras right? Have u jumpa any shops that selling detailing product?
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In Cheras, i didn't really find any shops that really sell Detailing Car Products. I usually goes to Aeon and etc to get Meg's only cause I'm still research on other product like Osren and Opti. icon_idea.gif Gonna try new stuff since it looks YUMMY! oops.gif

Except Godwell I heard of it and also Krismas mention it but i didn't feel like going to that side cause the jam there is worst then my place. cool2.gif cool2.gif


QUOTE(KrisMas @ Sep 26 2014, 11:28 AM)
Goodwell is in Mahkota Square. They sell Chemical Guys and iGreenLover stuffs.....amongst others....expensive stuffs though.... sweat.gif
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CHemical Guys? Wow at last i heard Chemical Guys in Malaysia.... rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif
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Any product sheet better than beading?
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GTechniq EXO, and many more...
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Anyone using Duragloss 751 Rain Repel?
It's a 2 In1 Glass Cleaner + rain repel.

Want to know how is the cleaning efficiently and the repellent performance.
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GTechniq EXO, and many more...
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Opti seal?

Hehhehe..

Anthing that can source locally?
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Opti seal?

Hehhehe..

Anthing that can source locally?
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Aquawax, Opti Seal all good right.

I can't comment on any waxes, I ain't a wax guy.
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QUOTE(ZeroSP @ Sep 27 2014, 01:36 PM)
Aquawax, Opti Seal all good right.

I can't comment on any waxes, I ain't a wax guy.
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Just wash & wax after that day went to construction side... sweat.gif mana tau wanna rain. doh.gif rclxub.gif

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Fuu glossy wet.. Mind to share product you used?
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Oh sorry master I forgot you're a Coat guy..  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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No la, coat or sealant top with wax.

QUOTE(kalvinkhoo @ Sep 27 2014, 05:23 PM)
Just wash & wax after that day went to construction side...  sweat.gif  mana tau wanna rain.  doh.gif  rclxub.gif

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Looks good.
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Fuu glossy wet.. Mind to share product you used?
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No la, coat or sealant top with wax.
Looks good.
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Any product sheet better than beading?
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Sealants mostly sheet...that's why most don't have as nice beading as wax. But the better quality waxes have strong beading properties to the point that they're very effective in sheeting also. But nowadays the 'hybrids' are coming...sealants that contains wax...good and fast sheeter and bead quite nice also. Good example would be Megs UQWax paste. Even better example is Dodo Juce Supernatural Hybrid...damn tempted to get one but...haven't open most of my waxes/sealants for quite some tome already....

Want a suggestion....slap on any sealant (or AIO) then top it up with Sonax BSD...nice and strong beading and sheeting. I've tried DG501 then buff off residue with BSD....it's *almost* like having the best of both worlds.
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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Sep 27 2014, 07:00 PM)
Sealants mostly sheet...that's why most don't have as nice beading as wax. But the better quality waxes have strong beading properties to the point that they're very effective in sheeting also. But nowadays the 'hybrids' are coming...sealants that contains wax...good and fast sheeter and bead quite nice also. Good example would be Megs UQWax paste. Even better example is Dodo Juce Supernatural Hybrid...damn tempted to get one but...haven't open most of my waxes/sealants for quite some tome already....

Want a suggestion....slap on any sealant (or AIO) then top it up with Sonax BSD...nice and strong beading and sheeting. I've tried DG501 then buff off residue with BSD....it's *almost* like having the best of both worlds.
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Just to ask, how long a bottle of BSD lasted you?

I always wanted to try PNS + BSD, but the prices making me to hold it till this long.
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Just to ask, how long a bottle of BSD lasted you?

I always wanted to try PNS + BSD, but the prices making me to hold it till this long.
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Another difficult question to answer...since BSD is just one of the many spray waxes/sealants that i like using, and i'd normally just pick any one frm my stash depending on my mood. But, a rough guess, durability and amount of product used is almost similar to OCWax. So if i were to use it exclusively, one bottle could well last me more than one year especially since it's 750ml. But I'm not too fond of PNS though. Feels like it's just a concentrated form of BSD and Sonax people also concurred on it. Also, PNS on it's own, the durabily and performance differences aren't significantly enough to justify the price and volume of the can. If you wan't to go that route, maybe the Sonax Nano Coat + BSD would be more suitable. Regardless, i do suggest you try the BSD if you get the chance. Tried Reload before? Well, i can say that BSD is much like Reload and then some. Something very much value for money, especially considering the price and the volume of the bottle....and even more if you caught it during discounted period. Quazacolt, wanna add anything else.....
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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Sep 27 2014, 07:00 PM)
Sealants mostly sheet...that's why most don't have as nice beading as wax. But the better quality waxes have strong beading properties to the point that they're very effective in sheeting also. But nowadays the 'hybrids' are coming...sealants that contains wax...good and fast sheeter and bead quite nice also. Good example would be Megs UQWax paste. Even better example is Dodo Juce Supernatural Hybrid...damn tempted to get one but...haven't open most of my waxes/sealants for quite some tome already....

Want a suggestion....slap on any sealant (or AIO) then top it up with Sonax BSD...nice and strong beading and sheeting. I've tried DG501 then buff off residue with BSD....it's *almost* like having the best of both worlds.
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a... why you tempt me so cry.gif

and yes i echo on BSD topping.
ULW that can last seemingly forever thanks to BSD, it's just insane laugh.gif
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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Sep 27 2014, 09:08 PM)
Another difficult question to answer...since BSD is just one of the many spray waxes/sealants that i like using, and i'd normally just pick any one frm my stash depending on my mood. But, a rough guess, durability and amount of product used is almost similar to OCWax. So if i were to use it exclusively, one bottle could well last me more than one year especially since it's 750ml. But I'm not too fond of PNS though. Feels like it's just a concentrated form of BSD and Sonax people also concurred on it. Also, PNS on it's own,  the durabily and performance differences aren't significantly enough to justify the price and volume of the can. If you wan't to go that route, maybe the Sonax Nano Coat + BSD would be more suitable. Regardless, i do suggest you try the BSD if you get the chance. Tried Reload before? Well, i can say that BSD is much like Reload and then some. Something very much value for money, especially considering the price and the volume of the bottle....and even more if you caught it during discounted period. Quazacolt, wanna add anything else.....
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PNS = polymer net shield?
i don't know, it's just a hunch, but it seems to me that sonax products doesn't quite compliment well among themselves, however if you use it on other stuffs, especially as a topper, it seems to create a very awesome chemistry/bonding between each other.

example would be:
- Rain x, rain x washer additive + sonax xtreme clear view nano pro washer additive
- Meguiar's ULW + BSD
- Meguiar's Hyper dressing + BSD (this eliminates/reduce hyper dressing greasiness, yet having that awesome shine with some bsd bead/sheet)

remember my google plus link that i showed? remember how i've never washed my car for... many many long months? Those bead/sheet pictures, while not perfect, are exactly AS IS after driving in the rain coming back from Lowyat Plaza with a friend.

If you pay attention to my fenders, the water/minor beads have already flashed/dried (minor waterspots, naturally lol) and if it's just regular beads it wouldn't have flashed/dried that quick especially if you compared the horizontal panels like the bonnet that's just beside.
ULW don't really sheet (it beads very aggressively, although said aggressive beading last maybe 1 month or 2 at most in Malaysian weather) so you can pretty much tell it's BSD pulling it's weight.

as for how much BSD i still got... hmm fully application on my car twice? patch repairs/polishing few times, applied on the nissan sentra engine cover... so i got maybe 80-90% left? rofl.
i was thinking of buying another bottle when it's promotion again to keep stock, but then again that seem like a dumb idea especially from a financial perspective sweat.gif

f*** now that you mentioned it i totally forgotten my car pro reload that i bought ages ago from Singapore.
I've yet to touch it at all sweat.gif
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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Sep 27 2014, 07:00 PM)
Sealants mostly sheet...that's why most don't have as nice beading as wax. But the better quality waxes have strong beading properties to the point that they're very effective in sheeting also. But nowadays the 'hybrids' are coming...sealants that contains wax...good and fast sheeter and bead quite nice also. Good example would be Megs UQWax paste. Even better example is Dodo Juce Supernatural Hybrid...damn tempted to get one but...haven't open most of my waxes/sealants for quite some tome already....

Want a suggestion....slap on any sealant (or AIO) then top it up with Sonax BSD...nice and strong beading and sheeting. I've tried DG501 then buff off residue with BSD....it's *almost* like having the best of both worlds.
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Thanks master.. So far am using DG501 with OID and kinda like it.. Havent touch BSD bcoz sayang want to use.. doh.gif
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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Sep 27 2014, 09:08 PM)
Another difficult question to answer...since BSD is just one of the many spray waxes/sealants that i like using, and i'd normally just pick any one frm my stash depending on my mood. But, a rough guess, durability and amount of product used is almost similar to OCWax. So if i were to use it exclusively, one bottle could well last me more than one year especially since it's 750ml. But I'm not too fond of PNS though. Feels like it's just a concentrated form of BSD and Sonax people also concurred on it. Also, PNS on it's own,  the durabily and performance differences aren't significantly enough to justify the price and volume of the can. If you wan't to go that route, maybe the Sonax Nano Coat + BSD would be more suitable. Regardless, i do suggest you try the BSD if you get the chance. Tried Reload before? Well, i can say that BSD is much like Reload and then some. Something very much value for money, especially considering the price and the volume of the bottle....and even more if you caught it during discounted period. Quazacolt, wanna add anything else.....
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Ah I see... PNS wise, because Autogeek fellas seems to sworn by it. BSD wise, you guys voiced the similar opinion.

Yea Reload tried before, a good stuff until I tried out Prima Hydro Max, wipes on like a QD as a sealant.

BSD I need to visit Sonax HQ for it?
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& ZeroSP

PNS = polymer net shield?
i don't know, it's just a hunch, but it seems to me that sonax products doesn't quite compliment well among themselves, however if you use it on other stuffs, especially as a topper, it seems to create a very awesome chemistry/bonding between each other.

example would be:
- Rain x, rain x washer additive + sonax xtreme clear view nano pro washer additive
- Meguiar's ULW + BSD
- Meguiar's Hyper dressing + BSD (this eliminates/reduce hyper dressing greasiness, yet having that awesome shine with some bsd bead/sheet)

remember my google plus link that i showed? remember how i've never washed my car for... many many long months? Those bead/sheet pictures, while not perfect, are exactly AS IS after driving in the rain coming back from Lowyat Plaza with a friend.

If you pay attention to my fenders, the water/minor beads have already flashed/dried (minor waterspots, naturally lol) and if it's just regular beads it wouldn't have flashed/dried that quick especially if you compared the horizontal panels like the bonnet that's just beside.
ULW don't really sheet (it beads very aggressively, although said aggressive beading last maybe 1 month or 2 at most in Malaysian weather) so you can pretty much tell it's BSD pulling it's weight.

as for how much BSD i still got... hmm fully application on my car twice? patch repairs/polishing few times, applied on the nissan sentra engine cover... so i got maybe 80-90% left? rofl.
i was thinking of buying another bottle when it's promotion again to keep stock, but then again that seem like a dumb idea especially from a financial perspective sweat.gif

f*** now that you mentioned it i totally forgotten my car pro reload that i bought ages ago from Singapore.
I've yet to touch it at all sweat.gif
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Yea Polymer Net Shield, that weird thing in aerosol spray can form lol. Got so many good reviews on the Autogeek that's why I asked.

BSD wise, no doubt... It is good even on its own.
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QUOTE(ZeroSP @ Sep 27 2014, 11:46 PM)
Yea Polymer Net Shield, that weird thing in aerosol spray can form lol. Got so many good reviews on the Autogeek that's why I asked.

BSD wise, no doubt... It is good even on its own.
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BSD on it's own, i doubt it last.

not to mention it has that "squeaky" feel being standalone that you feel like your car is bare naked just being IPA'd.
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 27 2014, 11:48 PM)
BSD on it's own, i doubt it last.

not to mention it has that "squeaky" feel being standalone that you feel like your car is bare naked just being IPA'd.
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QUOTE(kalvinkhoo @ Sep 27 2014, 05:23 PM)
Just wash & wax after that day went to construction side...  sweat.gif  mana tau wanna rain.  doh.gif  rclxub.gif

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since you can invest on getting alot product and equipment...to lightening your maintenance job + increase product durability / reduce wastage....


spend some money do a pergola....
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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Sep 27 2014, 09:08 PM)
Another difficult question to answer...since BSD is just one of the many spray waxes/sealants that i like using, and i'd normally just pick any one frm my stash depending on my mood. But, a rough guess, durability and amount of product used is almost similar to OCWax. So if i were to use it exclusively, one bottle could well last me more than one year especially since it's 750ml. But I'm not too fond of PNS though. Feels like it's just a concentrated form of BSD and Sonax people also concurred on it. Also, PNS on it's own,  the durabily and performance differences aren't significantly enough to justify the price and volume of the can. If you wan't to go that route, maybe the Sonax Nano Coat + BSD would be more suitable. Regardless, i do suggest you try the BSD if you get the chance. Tried Reload before? Well, i can say that BSD is much like Reload and then some. Something very much value for money, especially considering the price and the volume of the bottle....and even more if you caught it during discounted period. Quazacolt, wanna add anything else.....
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So where do I get BSD anyway? Would try it on naked paint, as well as topper.
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QUOTE(ZeroSP @ Sep 28 2014, 02:35 AM)
So where do I get BSD anyway? Would try it on naked paint, as well as topper.
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Some of us mostly just drop by their HQ cuz, if lucky enough, can still get a little discount (and some times freebies) even if it's not officially on sale. Haven't gone in shopping mall for a while now, but i used to see them in Giant, Parksons and ACE....not sure if these places still carries them.
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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Sep 28 2014, 07:22 AM)
Some of us mostly just drop by their HQ cuz, if lucky enough, can still get a little discount (and some times freebies) even if it's not officially on sale. Haven't gone in shopping mall for a while now, but i used to see them in Giant, Parksons and  ACE....not sure if these places still carries them.
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Ace Hardware definitely sells the Sonax Gloss Shampoo. Didn't notice BSD.
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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Sep 28 2014, 07:22 AM)
Some of us mostly just drop by their HQ cuz, if lucky enough, can still get a little discount (and some times freebies) even if it's not officially on sale. Haven't gone in shopping mall for a while now, but i used to see them in Giant, Parksons and  ACE....not sure if these places still carries them.
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Now no more in giant and tesco for BSD.. Shampoo got.. Or maybe only certain places got..
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QUOTE(g88 @ Sep 28 2014, 12:20 AM)
since you can invest on getting alot product and equipment...to lightening your maintenance job + increase product durability / reduce wastage....
spend some money do a pergola....
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HAHA u mean a roof? well is a rent house.. doh.gif I wish there is pergola that i can build. brows.gif




By the way, here are my car bead beading last night after heavy rain in the evening... Beading a bit to big right?

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this is bodywork product. Why you need it ? Going to DIY self repair bodywork and paint ?  biggrin.gif
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Master krismas, zerosp, g88 between carpro reload and opti seal which one recommended?
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Hi all, i saw this at tesco, think its a good deal. But which one is actually more suitable for car wash at home?

Karcher k2050 - offer price rm329. Ori price rm429
Black n decker - normal price only, rm355.

Im not too sure of the specs, but i think this Black n decker has higher/stronger jet?


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any advice pls?

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Master krismas, zerosp, g88 between carpro reload and opti seal which one recommended?
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Both sheets and beads differently. One is slightly more expensive. Both bottles can last you very long time.

Reload on dark colored cars, just pay a little more attention for streaking. Some fellas at Autogeek recommended to dilute, but I never try before.
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QUOTE(roxx @ Sep 28 2014, 04:58 PM)
Master krismas, zerosp, g88 between carpro reload and opti seal which one recommended?
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Hei Bro, since you are looking for sealant... Put 1 more into the list, Iron Gloss from Dodo Juice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp0I36B6P0M

I think Sonax Polymer Net Shield is also a sealant.
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QUOTE(roxx @ Sep 28 2014, 04:58 PM)
Master krismas, zerosp, g88 between carpro reload and opti seal which one recommended?
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What are you looking for? What you're trying to achieve?

QUOTE(zaFrOoNaLdO @ Sep 28 2014, 05:41 PM)
Hi all, i saw this at tesco, think its a good deal. But which one is actually more suitable for car wash at home?

Karcher k2050 - offer price rm329. Ori price rm429
Black n decker - normal price only, rm355.

Im not too sure of the specs, but i think this Black n decker has higher/stronger jet?
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For car wash, any of the two would do. But Karcher has the advantage of having more assessories if you plan to use it for other purposes in the future.
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QUOTE(ZeroSP @ Sep 28 2014, 06:22 PM)
Both sheets and beads differently. One is slightly more expensive. Both bottles can last you very long time.

Reload on dark colored cars, just pay a little more attention for streaking. Some fellas at Autogeek recommended to dilute, but I never try before.
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Thanks master for your info.. Mind to share which is expensive? I dont mind paying as long 1 bottle can use up to 10~15 cars (cost saving) instead of cheap but can use up to 5~6 cars

QUOTE(MyWifeCar @ Sep 28 2014, 06:43 PM)
Hei Bro, since you are looking for sealant... Put 1 more into the list, Iron Gloss from Dodo Juice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp0I36B6P0M

I think Sonax Polymer Net Shield is also a sealant.
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How much and where I can get it master?


QUOTE(KrisMas @ Sep 28 2014, 07:42 PM)
What are you looking for? What you're trying to achieve?
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Am looking at cost saving product but best at durability/protection (sheet/rain repellent) and of course deep gloss if possible.. Any suggestion master?

If possible anything that can source locally ya master (online/LYN/distributor)

Thanks master2 sekalian.. smile.gif

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Thanks master for your info.. Mind to share which is expensive? I dont mind paying as long 1 bottle can use up to 10~15 cars (cost saving) instead of cheap but can use up to 5~6 cars
How much and where I can get it master?
Am looking at cost saving product but best at durability/protection (sheet/rain repellent) and of course deep gloss if possible.. Any suggestion master?

If possible anything that can source locally ya master (online/LYN/distributor)

Thanks master2 sekalian.. smile.gif
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Reload is slightly more expensive, both Opti Seal and Reload has no problem of doing over 80 cars.
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QUOTE(ZeroSP @ Sep 28 2014, 10:48 PM)
Reload is slightly more expensive, both Opti Seal and Reload has no problem of doing over 80 cars.
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Master, we're talking about reload spray type sealant right?

Its in 400ml size..
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QUOTE(roxx @ Sep 28 2014, 11:15 PM)
Master, we're talking about reload spray type sealant right?

Its in 400ml size..
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Yes. Both reload and Opti Seal are capable of doing over 80 cars.
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QUOTE(ZeroSP @ Sep 28 2014, 11:33 PM)
Yes. Both reload and Opti Seal are capable of doing over 80 cars.
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If 400ml reload able to cover up to 80 cars, then 1 car average 5ml per car?

You're talking about mid size car or small car?

Sorry master for so many question..
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QUOTE(roxx @ Sep 29 2014, 12:12 AM)
If 400ml reload able to cover up to 80 cars, then 1 car average 5ml per car?

You're talking about mid size car or small car?

Sorry master for so many question..
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City/Civic size

You really don't use that much, it streaks at the slightest over-apply...
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newbie here, wanna ask is there any crazy ppl tried to put both klasse sealant glaze together/ topped/ under opti seal?

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Hi all. Requesting for advise on polisher machine. So far I m leaning to skil model 9080 rm230 or bosch gp012ce rm500. Is bosch worth the money or I shall just settle for cheaper skill polisher? Thanks.
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Hi all. Requesting for advise on polisher machine. So far I m leaning to skil model 9080 rm230 or bosch gp012ce rm500. Is bosch worth the money or I shall just settle for cheaper skill polisher? Thanks.
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Consider the more powerful Dewalt DWP849X. A nice high quality buffer. Priced ard RM650-700. Another buffer to consider is the Makita 9227C, which is the industry standard. Pretty good and reliable too.

Btw guys, have you seen the new Makita 9237C? Mimics the enhancement from the 849X with rubber head, wire mesh intake cover, etc.. Some of the description below:


- Variable speed dial and trigger enables user to match the speed to the application
- Constant speed control maintains constant speed under load
- Soft start for smooth start-ups and less fling off of polish, wax or paste
- Rubberized loop handle and gear housing for operator comfort and to help protect delicate surfaces from damage
- Wire mesh intake covers to prevent wool fibers from entering the motor
- Improved cord guard for increased flexibility and longer life
- Externally accessible brushes for easy serviceability
- Rubber tool rest for upside down placement of tool when used with the side handle
- Lock-on button for continuous use operation
- 3-prong plug to prevent static electricity accumulation

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QUOTE(roxx @ Sep 28 2014, 04:58 PM)
Master krismas, zerosp, g88 between carpro reload and opti seal which one recommended?
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kamikaze overcoat.

can apply wet or dry mode.

so efficient and easy application.

order online.

kamikaze

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QUOTE(roxx @ Sep 27 2014, 01:41 AM)
Any product sheet better than beading?
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water sheeting (Hydrophilic) will cause less water mark on the surface.

my scirocco is protected by modesta BC03 (Hydrophilic).

i love the result.


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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Sep 26 2014, 11:28 AM)
Goodwell is in Mahkota Square. They sell Chemical Guys and iGreenLover stuffs.....amongst others....expensive stuffs though.... sweat.gif
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absolutely over pricing.


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QUOTE(zaFrOoNaLdO @ Sep 28 2014, 05:41 PM)
Hi all, i saw this at tesco, think its a good deal. But which one is actually more suitable for car wash at home?

Karcher k2050 - offer price rm329. Ori price rm429
Black n decker - normal price only, rm355.

Im not too sure of the specs, but i think this Black n decker has higher/stronger jet?
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to get a feel of the Karcher PW before buying... visit their HQ in Glenmarie.

then get foam lance from aliexpress and you can do this rclxm9.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQvvyGoHDkc

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Thom. Tq. The makita cost around rm800 rite? It will be way out of budget. I m for diy at home for polish n wax only. Nt sure worth to spend that much. Thats why was contemplating between skill which cost 230 or shall get better one. Would that make alot whole different? Tq
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QUOTE(iamsobloodysick @ Sep 29 2014, 01:44 PM)
kamikaze overcoat.

can apply wet or dry mode.

so efficient and easy application.

order online.

kamikaze
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huge thanks for the recommendation bro, looking DAMN AWESOME:

and not really that expensive at all.

though like with most Japanese, their English looks google translate level tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 29 2014, 02:34 PM)
huge thanks for the recommendation bro, looking DAMN AWESOME:

and not really that expensive at all.

though like with most Japanese, their English looks google translate level tongue.gif
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Really wei, the translation... Let's see if can bring back from Japan for next trip.
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QUOTE(ZeroSP @ Sep 29 2014, 02:42 PM)
Really wei, the translation... Let's see if can bring back from Japan for next trip.
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i'd probably have an easier time just reading the Japanese version and then google translate some of the katakana/technical terms myself rofl
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 29 2014, 02:44 PM)
i'd probably have an easier time just reading the Japanese version and then google translate some of the katakana/technical terms myself rofl
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Yea I actually did the same lol.
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 29 2014, 02:34 PM)
huge thanks for the recommendation bro, looking DAMN AWESOME:

and not really that expensive at all.

though like with most Japanese, their English looks google translate level tongue.gif
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the overcoat and water mark remover are miracle product.

the water mark remover is smell-less like water, feel like water, but work like god.
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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Sep 28 2014, 07:42 PM)
What are you looking for? What you're trying to achieve?
For car wash, any of the two would do. But Karcher has the advantage of having more assessories if you plan to use it for other purposes in the future.
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Thanks! Will keep that in mind. 100bar and 110 bar much difference? Or neglectible. Im more keen on karcher, but i think looking at the specs, B&D one looks slightly more powerful?

QUOTE(slk @ Sep 29 2014, 02:07 PM)
to get a feel of the Karcher PW before buying... visit their HQ in Glenmarie.

then get foam lance from aliexpress and you can do this  rclxm9.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQvvyGoHDkc
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Are u saying, i dont hv to buy the more expensive Karcher PW that comes with foam dispenser but instead use the foam bottle in the video and attach it to the Karcher K2.050?
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QUOTE(iamsobloodysick @ Sep 29 2014, 01:44 PM)
kamikaze overcoat.

can apply wet or dry mode.

so efficient and easy application.

order online.

kamikaze
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Thanks master.. This look awesome..

How about gyeon wetcoat? Similar application. Do u have any info on this?
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QUOTE(iamsobloodysick @ Sep 29 2014, 03:11 PM)
the overcoat and water mark remover are miracle product.

the water mark remover is smell-less like water, feel like water, but work like god.
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I think krismas already tested the overcoat. But not sure what is the feedback...
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QUOTE(iamsobloodysick @ Sep 29 2014, 03:11 PM)
the overcoat and water mark remover are miracle product.

the water mark remover is smell-less like water, feel like water, but work like god.
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wei you very poisonous icon_question.gif cry.gif
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wei you very poisonous  icon_question.gif  cry.gif
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passion only lah
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QUOTE(zaFrOoNaLdO @ Sep 29 2014, 03:30 PM)
Thanks! Will keep that in mind. 100bar and 110 bar much difference? Or neglectible. Im more keen on karcher, but i think looking at the specs, B&D one looks slightly more powerful?
Are u saying, i dont hv to buy the more expensive Karcher PW that comes with foam dispenser but instead use the foam bottle in the video and attach it to the Karcher K2.050?
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If not mistaken it China made. .hear from ppl can't last if you on too long > 5 min.. may need to off in coming power if not using (spraying). Me also though of buying this but after talking to sale guy ended buying K2.98m made in Italy with inductive motor

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QUOTE(zaFrOoNaLdO @ Sep 29 2014, 03:30 PM)
Thanks! Will keep that in mind. 100bar and 110 bar much difference? Or neglectible. Im more keen on karcher, but i think looking at the specs, B&D one looks slightly more powerful?
Are u saying, i dont hv to buy the more expensive Karcher PW that comes with foam dispenser but instead use the foam bottle in the video and attach it to the Karcher K2.050?
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depends on you.

there are 2 types of PW :
1. Air cooled
2. Water cooled

Water cooled PW are more expensive than air cooled. If not mistaken, water cooled PW start from K3.500.

Dont get the foam lance from Karcher, it wont foam nice as in the video.

here's a link to a proper foam lance : http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Foam-Lance/...116034.html?s=p


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QUOTE(roxx @ Sep 28 2014, 04:58 PM)
Master krismas, zerosp, g88 between carpro reload and opti seal which one recommended?
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My favourite for slickness, gloss, depth and beading - Dodo Juice Supernatural Red Mist.

QUOTE(MyWifeCar @ Sep 29 2014, 03:39 PM)
I think krismas already tested the overcoat. But not sure what is the feedback...
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Yup. Tried it. Not overly impressed with it's performance, especially considering the price for a meager 100ml bottle. Applying when wet is the only advantage it has over others and the result is quite instanteneous as in the video. But wet application reduced the durability and dry application....well....it's just much like BSD or ReLoad, etc. which are at least a quarter of the price of the overcoat....

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