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 Car Care and Detailing [V4], Caring for your car apprearance

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post Aug 29 2014, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 29 2014, 09:38 AM)
thanks sifu Krismas!

as promised: https://plus.google.com/+JasonLimQuazacolt/posts/LzcXTB9DpNg My heart sank when i got back to my car just to discover it being scratched after a meet up session with the folks from Uber at Bangsar.

Disclaimer: "kids do not try this at home"
ideally you'd want to wash the whole car first prior to doing any correction as you risk contaminating the unaffected areas and having a half assed correction as dirt etc contaminates the area you're working on.

i personally am a bit ocd and i couldn't bear to see my beloved car in such state hence i took action immediately even if it's 2am in the morning on a Friday(few hours earlier).
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Is that your 2nd wife Inspira?
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post Aug 29 2014, 10:30 PM

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had troubles IPA'ing it off

Can this be considered as a compliment for its durability?

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post Aug 29 2014, 10:34 PM

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Some of you might interest, some might not.

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Ignore the left toilet bowl brush, a bit too stiff. Maybe for wheel well inner, but still I prefer something softer.

The long boom brush on the right, in my opinion is not soft. Whether it is hard or not is subjective. I personally prefer something softer. But still it can be a suitable wheel spoke brush in some hands. Most importantly, it is so cheap. RM2.30, you can change a new one every month.
Other pros about this brush is the center core is wrapped by non-metal material so chances of scratching the paint of the wheel due to the center metal is very low. Nevertheless, do bear in mind that I do not say there is no risk you might scratch from the bristle, although I think it is unlikely. The boom is also expandable, you can see two buttons there to lock it in place. I will intend to use this for the super tight space between the front disc break caliper and the wheel rim inner wall surface near the caliper, often time any decent brush after some usage at this tight space will deform in shape (bristle), with this super cheap brush I do not mind replacing it every month. biggrin.gif

Product from Mr. DIY

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post Aug 30 2014, 06:59 PM

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QUOTE(efaceninja @ Aug 30 2014, 12:44 AM)
the toilet bowl brush usually is really quite stiff, i was hunting before and toilet bowl's one all out.
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Yes usually I will remove all these brushes from my consideration also. But this one I bought because when I touch it through the plastic wrap it feels soft, plus the price so cheap. so I give it a try.

Where do you get your Meguiar's Detailer line product?

Regarding the Ultramate DA, you cannot just turn on the machine without backing plate and pad, the vibration will be different, and is expected to be more severe in this case. So you must have the backing plate attached on, at least this is the minimum, if pad is not available. 5" backing plate in my opinion gives the best smoothness to the Ultramate compare to 6" plate.

I see you have two brochures of Meguiar's. One of them I also have which I took from Ace Hardware.
The other one with the car as cover, what is it? where do you get it?

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post Sep 5 2014, 12:15 PM

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Do you hand applies the Meguiar's Water Spot Remover?
Do you feel that the product dried up very fast and often after you work on the product on the paint, you want to wipe away the residue, you can't because it is already dried so you got to either spray water or drop a few more fresh products to make it wet again and quickly wipe it off before it dries again?


efaceninja Do not have to be so afraid. If you ever pay attention to some of the service center, they just directly use a high pressure water gun, spray water to the engine bay, without any sort of covering. It is not a cautious practice and definitely not mean to be encouraging, but just to assure you that often time you will be fine.



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post Sep 5 2014, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(biotin @ Sep 5 2014, 12:32 PM)
@scoutfai

Yep , by hand . .. TRUE ! That thing dries up quickly and it leave the residue . Want to know what i did ? I dilute some in water, and use the polish pad to remove the residue . It worked . Any other "trick" to remove that ?

Thanks for sharing
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Yes I also face the drying issue with hand application.
As mention earlier I just spray water or put a few more drops of fresh product onto the foam pad and quickly spread it to "re-wet" the dried residue, then MUST be very fast to wipe it off, otherwise dried up again.
I didn't thought of your method, I tried next time, thanks for the idea.
No I do not have any other way already. But I do notice one thing, if applied at middle of night then dried up isseu is reduce, the product very sensitive to temperature, even not in direct sunlight, the heat up surrounding air will also cause it to dry up.
I have a DA so when I applied with DA then the issue is kind of not appearing. Not surprising, since with a machine brute force the foam just keep wiping away whatever it is touching. But there is always occasion where hand application is the only way.

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post Sep 5 2014, 07:35 PM

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I have exactly this item. tongue.gif
The only drawback is it is so loud, especially when it blowing on small holes or tight space, the sound produced is so high in pitch and disturbing to neighbor ears. So can't use it at early morning or night.

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post Sep 5 2014, 07:45 PM

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Ok try this then, from Meguiar's Malaysia.


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post Sep 13 2014, 06:28 PM

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Share some boar hair detailing brush products here & my observation.

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Left = Envy Brush (largest size), bought from Singapore (import from UK), after conversion RM13.00/unit (exclude shipment & GST). It mimics the Swissvax style wheel brush.

Right = Braun Brush A7D 1.25" round brush, bought from Hong Kong (import from USA), after conversion RM62/unit (exclude shipment). It is part of the Wheel Woolies (WW) series of product by Braun Automotive.

By comparison you can see the Envy brush boom is slightly shorter. The bristles length of Envy brush is also shorter.

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It is apparent that the Envy Brush has smaller bristles brushing area. It also can be seen that the Envy brush bristle density is not as high as the A7D. i.e. for a same unit area the A7D has more number of bristle compare to Envy Brush.


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In this photo I try to push away the bristles of Envy Brush to reveal the center. There is a wood put in the center, hence at the center there is actually no bristle. The bristle is only located at the circumference. In constrast, A7D has full bristles coverage even in the center.

In term of

(a) Bristle softness
Both are equal softness. Comparable to the softness of a brand new wood paint nylon brush. Definitely safe on delicate surfaces.

(b) Built Quality
No doubt A7D is much better by a lot of grade. Having a longer bristle also enable the A7D to be slightly softer than Envy Brush.

(c ) Chances of bristles falling away
Upon purchase both brushes already demonstrate few bristles falling away from the holder when lightly pulled by fingers. So in this aspect both are equal. It also means that one is unrealistic to expect this kind of brush will last forever. Eventually the day will come when there is enough bristles has gone and too little bristles left to do the cleaning job effectively.

(d) Safety Factor
Both are equally safe because there is absolutely no metal parts outside. There is only plastic. Which is also a reason I like to use this kind of brush in case I accidentally bang into the paint with the brush or drop it onto the panel, I knew they will not be deep scratch. And it will not rust (unlike wood paint brush wrapped in plastic cover). Nevertheless, having no metal component holding the bristles could be a reason why the bristles are easier to fall off from the holder compare to normal wood paint brush. I think this is a give and take situation, if one wishes to have extra safety, one has to accept extra disadvantage.

(e) Value for money
Despite Envy brush being graded lower by me in term of built quality and performance but due to its much cheaper price, its value for money in my opinion is higher than A7D if one has to take into consideration of every cent spent.

BTW Envy Brushes are more popular in its 5 sets package which has more value for money (RM48/set after conversion, excluding shipment & GST).

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Nevertheless, in my opinion, only the largest size Envy Brush is most useful. I own the set but I wish now all 5 brushes are the largest brush size. laugh.gif

Attach also a picture showing side by side comparison of original Swissvax Brush (which sold at Ferrari price, so I do not own one) and the cheaper alternative Envy Brush.
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post Sep 13 2014, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(roxx @ Sep 13 2014, 06:51 PM)
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Bro I know that A7D using boar brush.. How about envy brush?
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Both also boar hair, sorry bro. Western manufacturer usually do it in boar hair.
The other alternative is horse hair but so far I haven come across horse hair brush that looks like Swissvax Wheel Brush style one. I only come across horse hair carpet brush before, that one looks like a hand held block design one, not boom style like swissvax.

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post Sep 13 2014, 08:29 PM

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Question:
On claying, do you guys:
1) Partition the new clay into many small pieces (like 10), each piece for a panel or an area, after done, throw them away.
2) Split to half, or 1/3, then use this partition clay the whole car, along the process keep knitting the clay to reveal a clean side. Once done, store the clay to be re-used next time. Only throw away after visual inspection indicates not possible to knit to a clean side.
3) Same as (2) but instead of store it, throw it away, just use for one time, for sake of absolute safety.
4) Others more creative practice?
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post Sep 15 2014, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 14 2014, 04:06 PM)
https://plus.google.com/+JasonLimQuazacolt/posts/j9Gt8oHBrpT Took leave on Friday, and spent the entire noon/evening/night cleaning my mom's Nissan Sentra engine bay.
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Can elaborate a little bit on the performance of the car battery powered air compressor?
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post Sep 17 2014, 08:18 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 15 2014, 03:30 PM)
it able to blow water i guess? lol.

nothing comparable to a proper blower, it's just happen i have one so i may pump tires and what not that's it lol.
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How long it able to blow continuously before you have to wait for it to re-pressurize again?
How long it take to pressurize to full capacity?
BTW most curious of all, does it really able to pump tyre effectively as it claims? Feel interested to invest one for pump tyre, hate to go petrol station and either find out their pump is not working or long queue.
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post Oct 9 2014, 05:08 PM

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Some essential reading when you need to maintain yourself in the near future.

http://www.meguiarsonline.com/forums/showt...-Delicate-Paint

The products are just normal OTC.
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post Oct 10 2014, 09:24 PM

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New "vitamin" for my ride.
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Eager to try this out:
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Hope it does what it says:
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The instruction reads let it dry to haze but most of the review on forum says otherwise, if let it dries to haze then be prepare to break your arms. Keen to try how hard it is going to be, one arm breaks still got another spare brows.gif
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First impression on the wax is it looks so old school style like my grandfather age product packaging.
Upon opening the can, pressing the wax with finger, I have to say this is by far the hardest wax I have ever come across. I can't really press the wax down. It is like a rock. Guess the forum warning is not purely myth.

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post Oct 13 2014, 05:58 PM

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Yes I will share my user experience. But my existing wax layer is still holding well so I will need to wait some time.

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Haha if use by myself only is overkill in quantity. Just in case anyone not notice this is spray wax, not liquid wax, so each application last like 1 or 2 weeks then have to re-apply. So it will not really last that long.
But still, i enjoy product in a gallon. tongue.gif
Thanks for the advise. Take note of that when using it.

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brows.gif I got share with my friends also. Sorry can't spread out again this time. tongue.gif

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I can't quote and multi-quote several people's message, Is it only me?
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QUOTE(roxx @ Oct 13 2014, 07:10 PM)
Banned u from this thread for not sharing out OPT product  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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Oh Don't please. laugh.gif

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post Oct 24 2014, 06:41 PM

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Just done a random search on what's going on in the latest polishing machine update. Found out that other than the two China made Rupes 21 copy which we all already aware of, ie the Ningbo AnsiAuto machine and the Anhui MaxShine machine, now there are more Rupes 21 copy available in the US and Europe market and are selling officially in web.

1) KRAUSS SHINEMASTER S21 900W
21mm throw, Germany brand, €199.95 (RM830)
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2) Gloss-It EVO 21 Random Orbit Dual Action Polisher
21mm throw, US brand, $274.95 (RM901.31)
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It is claimed by the owner of this brand that this machine has the trigger speed control (like Makita), I doubt it though.



3) DAS-21E Dual Action Polisher 900W
21mm throw, sold in Europe website, £149.95 (RM621.75)
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4) DAS-6 PRO Plus - 15mm Dual Action Polisher 880W
15mm throw, sold in Europe website, £159.95 (RM663.21)
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This is the same brand that makes the popular 8mm traditional dual action polisher DAS 6-PRO.

For those who just venturing into large throw machine polishing, you guys indeed have much more options now.
What I can see is most brands just either stay with 8mm or go straight to 21mm throw, no intermediate machine in between, except the DAS 6 brand.

From the outlook it appears the Krauss and DAS 6 (except the 21E which looks like AnsiAuto originated) are MaxShine originated and Gloss It 21 is AnsiAuto originated.
I will not be surprise if indeed Maxshine and AnsiAuto are manufacture for them but rebranded when sold there since MaxShine also manufactures the Griot's Garage 6" Polisher previously.

And at the beginning of November 2014, Flex will announce a new machine in the SEMA. It is sure going to be another eyes catcher! drool.gif

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post Oct 24 2014, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Oct 24 2014, 07:44 PM)
All the machines mentioned are OEM frm China....none of them 'manufacture' any of their own machines....even their previous versions....
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Yes that should be the case.

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