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TSalexei	Feb 27 2014, 02:30 PM, updated 4 months ago Show posts by this member only \| Post #1
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	LYN Yamaha 135LC Y15ZR Y16ZR Club V18 Lowyat 135LC Club Logo [by Spayz] » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Yum Cha Session Logo [by Spayz] » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Yamaha 135LC Proud Owners The NameList » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 1. Are_keem \| ~~Terengganu~~ Gombak, Selangor \| SS - ~~Black & Gold~~ ~~Green~~ ~~White~~ Black \| Sept 2007 2. mls_gamer \| Negeri Sembilan \| SS \| Sept 2008 3. Spayz \| Penang \| ES \| Oct 2008 4. UncleCheang \| Penang \| SS \| Nov 2008 5. salimbest83 \| kulim \| ES \|Jan 2008 6. topeng perak \| Penang \| SS \| Nov 2008 7. rainingzero \| Selangor \| SS \| Oct 2008 8. charge-n-go \| PJ / Penang \| SS - green \| July 2007 9. cusco57 \| Kajang \| ES \| Oct 07 10. EngChee \| Perak - Penang \| ES \| June 2008 11. DragonK \| ?? \| SS - Black \| May 2008 12. kinwei3250 \| Kota Bharu \| ES - Black \| March 2009 13. radio_8888 \| Selangor \| SS - Black Orange \| Nov 2008 14. maniacs \| Selangor/klang \| SS - Orange White \| Feb 2009 15. petaiman \| Penang \| SS - Black Gold \| March 2009 16. jcliew \| Johor \| SS - Black \| Mar. 2009 17. Calvin.K.B \| Penang \| ES - White \| May 2008 18. bizzy123 l Penang l SS - Black l March 2008 19. LilCroSs \| Perak - Kelantan \| ES - Blue White \| May 2008 20. anarchy04 \| PJ - Terengganu \| SS - Blue \| April 2007 21. medichloreans \| Cheras \| SS - Black (No Stripe) \| June 2006 22. xtreme_paranoid \| Raub, Pahang \| SS - Black & White \| April 2008 23. simplyting \| Penang \| ES - ?? \| ?? 24. samba18 \| Penang \| ES - Orange/Black \| Dec 2006 25. msn83235502 \| Penang \| SS - BlueBlack \| May 2006 26. scoffer \| Kuala Pilah, N.Sembilan \| SS - Black Silver\| Jan 2007 27. saranjeevi \| Sg. Petani / PJ \| SS - Black Red \| Nov 2007 28. KiNd3rBu3no \| Johor Bahru & Melaka MMU area \| SS - Black & White \| May 2008 29. KiFuRi \| Rawang, Selangor \| ES - ?? \| 2007 30. Na0ki \| KL \| SS - Black & Gold \| May 2009 31. Villa07 \| Perak \| ES - Blue & White \| May 2009 32. ccfook2123 \| Nilai, Negeri Sembilan \| SS - green \| -- 33. whysomany\| Penang / BM \| ES - White & Blue \| May 2009 34. TryX @ Chuan \| Penang Islands \| SS - Red and Black \| 2007 35. sanisudin \| Miri \| SS - White & Blue \| May 09 36. Hiruka \| Selangor \| SS - Black & Gold \| May 09 37. mayaboyz \| Penang Island \| SS - Black & White \| 2008 38. spss \| Selangor \| SS - Red & White \| 2008 39. yoyo1004 l selangor l SS - Black & White l June 2008 40. 3600°\| Selangor / Selayang \| ES - Black \| May 2009 41. akubest l Selangor l SS - Black & red l Jan 2009 42. ReturnOfTheJedi \| KL \| SS - White & Black \| June 2008 43. maxburnz \| Selangor \| SS - Orange & Black \| July 2006 44. syazone \| KL \| SS - Red \| June 2006 45. orynx010 @ Syam \| Samarahan, Sarawak \| ES - Black \| Nov 2008 46. lanzslumber \| KL \| ES - ??\| Dec 2008 47. alcalie \| K.Lumpur / Shah Alam \| SS - Black & Gold\| July 2007 48. Syahir24 \| JB \| SS - Green \| Sept 2008 49. EviLRegioN l Penang l SS - Red l July 2009 50. monitorhead \| Salak Tinggi \| SS - ?? \| April 2008 51. joehunt \| Bandar Baru Bangi / Shah Alam \| ES - Black \| July 2009 52. suhail92 \| Perlis \| SS - Red & Gold \| April 2009 53. esssymanex \| Kuala Lumpur \| SS - Black & Gold \| July 2009 54. budakmentah \| Selangor \| ES \| April 2008 55. rooben90 \| Melaka \| SS - White & Black \| Aug 2009 56. POD \| Perak \| SS - Black & Orange \| ?? 57. blue_decamax \| Kuala Lumpur \| ES - Blue & White \| Sept 2009 58. evo1288 \| Pahang \| SS - Black & White \| Jan 2009 59. DontdoDRUG \| Selangor \| ES - Black & Red \| Dec 2008 60. thetorpedo \| Selangor \| ES - Black & Red \| Aug 2007 61. falkenst115 \| Shah Alam \| SS - Orange & Black \| May 2007 62. Twist \| Ipoh \| SS - Red & Gold \| March 2009 63. MeoNRoX \| Penang \| SS - ~~Black~~ X1R Flame Airbrush \| Feb 2009 64. yeop \| Penang \| SS - Grey \| May 2006 65. zulfazli \| Terengganu \| ES - Blue & White \| Sept 2009 66. Aaron135LC \| Penang \| SS - Red & Gold \| Oct. 2009 67. tkgan @ Gan \| Perak / Kelantan \| SS - Standard Blue \| Jun 2006 68. sleerpy \| Petaling Jaya \| SS \| Blue - White \| Aug 2009 69. hahahoho_hei \| Jengka, Pahang \| SS - Red & Black \| Dec 2009 70. Sadru \| KL \| ES - White \| 2009 71. xmex \| Selayang \| ES - Black \| Feb 2010 72. mshjohorean \| KL - Nilai - JB \| SS - White & Black \| Oct 2008 73. getexposed \| KL \| SS - White & Blue \| Feb 2010 74. mivec_nos \| Puchong \| SS - White & Blue \| April 2010 75. jsteoh93 \| Kelantan \| SS - Red Gold \| March 2010 76. Ghost-Squad \| Kampung Delek, Klang \| ES - Airbrush \| Sept 2009 77. machai_world \| Selayang \| ES - Black \| May 2010 78. mrjaxx \| Selayang \| SS - Red & Gold \| May 2010 79. Itsuki_Kun \| Penang \| ES - Black \| June 2010 80. skyz91 \| KL \| SS - Black \| Sept 2010 81. UE7 \| KL \| SS - Black & Gold \| Oct 2010 82. anep \| KL \| SS - Red \| Sept 2010 83. riazorblues \| KL \| SS - Black \| Oct 2010 84. archery \| Banting \| SS - Red \| July 2008 85. Xtremo \| Telok Panglima Garang \| SS - Black \| Nov 2010 86. sue4725 \| SP, Kedah \| ES - ?? \| Nov 2010 87. vaizard \| Jengka, Pahang \| SS - Black & Gold \| Dec 2010 88. ultimate7 \| Ampang, Selangor \| SS - Black \| Dec 2010 89. PsycoNaxionz \| Ipoh,Perak \| SS - White & Blue \| Sept 2010 90. zoldaking \| Ampang, Selangor \| SS - Red \| Aug 2010 91. hailiss8384 \| Bandar Baru Bangi \| SS - Black & Gold \| Jan 2011 92. fredericktke \| Penang \| ES - White \| July 2010 93. 0163119779 \| Pahang ] ES - Dec 2010 94. riderz135 \| Selayang / Kuala Lumpur \| SS - Blue & White \| Dec 2010 95. Shapa106 \| Bandar Baru Bangi \| SS - Black & Gold \| June 2010 96. millennia_135LC \| Banting, Selangor \| SS - ~~Arai Nakano Sakura~~ AGV Five Continents \| Nov 2010 97. thianz \| Cheras \| SS - White \| March 2007 98. crysqy \| Cheras \| SS - Red Gold \| Jan 2011 99. CyberSundayz \| K. Terengganu \| SS - Red Gold \| Aug 2010 100. de4thscythell \| Kota Kinabalu, Sabah \| SS - Black & Gold \| March 2011 101. patrickloo \| Penang \| SS - Black & Gold \| Feb 2011 102. melvinho \| Petaling Jaya \| SS ES - Black & ~~Gold~~ Red \| Feb 2011 103. NewGuy \| Klang/Shah Alam \| SS - Green Metallic \| 2007 104. 135lcsam \| Bali - Indonesia \| Jupiter MX - Black & Blue \| July 2011 105. dragorc \| Terengganu \| SS - Black & Red \| 2011 106. ignore_mie \| Selangor \| SS Convert To ES - Black, Red & White \| Sept 2007 107. tiffany21 \| Selangor \| SS - Red Gold \| Dec 2010 108. Nail \| KL\Klang \| ES - Black \| March 2009 109. cosmi \| Selangor \| ES - Black & Red \| Aug 2011 110. mr.[L] \| Taiping, Perak \| ES - Black \| Jan 2009 111. RX4439[Wasie] \| Gombak, Selangor \| ES - Black / Gold \| December 2007 112. Detomaso \| Klang Valley \| ES - Candy Red\| Dec 2011 113. kabuto rider kick \| Cheras \| ES - GP Edition \| Feb 2012 114. Rascal stitch \|Taman Desa \| Black March 2012 115. SculptureX\| Ipoh, Perak \| SS \| June 2005 116. ToshinRaizen \| Setiu,Terengganu \| ES - Black \| June 2012 117. Koyok \| Klang ,Selangor \| ES - Black \| Jan 2013 118. jern25 \| State \| SS \| Feb 2014 119. serigala \| K.Terengganu \| ES \| Oct 2008 120. Rascal Stitch \| KL \| SS v2 \| 2012 121. mohamadnizam \| Selangor \| ES \| Jan 2010 122. MiztaLegendary Penang \| ES V2 SilverBlue \| 21/3/2014 123. freakyNeo KL \| SS V2 modded \| Jan 2014 124. ave666 Setapak \| SS \| Apr 2014 125. cahayamalamku KL \| ES \| July 2014 126. CaptainJack Selangor \| SS Red \| 2015 127. abong8 JB \| SS Black Red \| 2015 128. Devil7801 \| Kuantan \| SS v2 convert to V5 - Matte Black \| 2013 Older Thread For Reference » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « LYN 135LC Club V1 LYN 135LC Club V2 LYN 135LC Club V3 LYN 135LC Club V4 LYN 135LC Club V5 LYN 135LC Club V6 LYN 135LC Club V7 LYN 135LC Club V8 LYN 135LC Club V9 LYN 135LC Club V10 LYN 135LC Club V11 LYN 135LC Club V12 LYN 135LC Club V13 LYN 135LC Club V14 LYN 135LC Club V15 LYN 135LC Club V16 LYN 135LC Club V17 Whose name is not in the LIST, kindly PM me your details as above SCROLL down for more useful tips n links This post has been edited by alexei: Aug 31 2021, 08:31 PM
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TSalexei	Feb 27 2014, 02:30 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #2
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	Our Proud Ride !! 1. Spayz's ride : » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 2. xtreme_paranoid's ride : » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 3. charge-n-go's ride : » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 4. Are_keem's ride : » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 5. scoffer's ride : - link is dead » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 6. kinwei3250's ride : » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 7. LilCroSs's ride : » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 8. samba18's ride : » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 9. UncleCheang's ride : » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 10. budakmentah's ride : » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « This post has been edited by alexei: Apr 9 2021, 09:41 AM
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TSalexei	Feb 27 2014, 02:31 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #3
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	Our Proud Ride V2 !! 11. Na0ki's ride : link is dead 12. DontdoDRUG's ride : » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 13. jsteoh93's ride : - link is dead » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 14. Aaron135LC's ride : link is dead 15. Itsuki_Kun's ride : link is dead 16. mls_gamer's ride : » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 17. fredericktke's ride : link is dead 18. millennia_135LC : » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 19. patrickloo's ride : » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 20.thianz's ride : - link is dead » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « This post has been edited by alexei: Jan 5 2016, 02:02 PM
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TSalexei	Feb 27 2014, 02:32 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #4
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	Our Proud Ride V3 !! 21. NoobboyZzZ's ride : » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 22. ToshinRaizen's ride : » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 23. serigala's ride : » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 24. mohamadnizam's ride: » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 25. MiztaLegendary's ride: » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 26. freakyNeo's ride: » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 27. ave666's ride: » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 28. cahayamalamku's ride: » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 29. abong8's ride: » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « This post has been edited by alexei: Sep 14 2015, 11:21 AM
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TSalexei	Feb 27 2014, 02:34 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #5
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	Breaking in that new engine: How To Break-In (Source 1) How To Break-In (Source 2) How To Break-In (Source 2 - Video) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Preparations: Install a new spark plug - this is important to check your carb main jetting. Use a tape measure and a marker, mark your throttle at the 1/2 and 3/4 points. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Bring the bike to a long and safe road. Warm up the bike properly, by letting it run standstill for 3~5 minutes. Follow the steps below: » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Note: The numbers below are using 9000 RPM Do Three 1/2 Throttle runs from 40% - 60% of your engine's max rpm in 2nd, 3rd and 4th gear (or 5th gear on ESv2) 1st gear ride to 20kmh 2nd gear ride to 40kmh 3rd gear ride to 55kmh 4th gear ride to 75kmh Do Three 3/4 Throttle runs from 40% - 80% of your engine's max rpm in 2nd, 3rd and 4th gear (or 5th gear on ESv2) 1st gear ride to 20kmh 2nd gear ride to 55kmh 3rd gear ride to 75kmh 4th gear ride to 100kmh Do Three Full Throttle runs from 30% - 100% of your engine's max rpm in 2nd, 3rd and 4th gear (or 5th gear on ESv2) 1st gear ride to 20kmh 2nd gear ride to 70kmh 3rd gear ride to 95kmh 4th gear ride to 120kmh (or max speed when the bike can no longer go faster) When doing the last run, when the max speed is reached, stop the bike safely, switch off the engine and let it cool down. Open the spark plug for a reading. You'll need a torchlight. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 1. Read for heat range like this: 2. Hold the plug with the tip facing you, look into dark area between the insulator tip and the metal body. 3. Look for the grey ring at the base of the insulator tip. 4. The range of the grey ring should extend from the base upwards slightly. See pic below, the one on the right. Maintenance: Yamaha 135LC Manual Book Direct Download, see attachments at the bottom of this post. Or here: Link and search for '135' in page Tips For Taking Care of Yamaha 135LC (0163119779) Recommended EO: Click HERE for the list. List of EO suitable for Y15ZR and FZ150i v2: JASO MA2 10W-50 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « JASO MA2 15W-50 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « JASO MA2 20W-50 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « JASO MA2 10W-60 & 20W-60 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Tuning and Setup Guides: Sprocket Settings (budakmentah) How To Set Carburator (MBC) How To Adjust Carburator Settings Simplified (Alexei) Constant velocity or diaphragm carb (LC135 V2) modification Riding Techniques: How to steer a motorcycle Click HERE to learn the way to steer a bike. Tyre Turning Angle (Serigala) Riding In A Group Etiquette [by Are_Keem] Riding in a big group needs proper riding etiquette. Therefore, you can learn all the riding etiquette HERE General Knowledge: Read All About EO HERE Accessories: Choosing The Right Jacket [by Alexei] Here are some tips to learn how to choose riding jacket correctly. Click HERE LED Brightness [by Aaron135LC] How to determine the correct LED that provide sufficient brightness HERE Tips On Modification [JPJ/Traffic] [by budakmentah] To know what you can mod or can't mod onto your motorcycle. Follow this guideline HERE for the correct tips This post has been edited by alexei: Mar 9 2017, 06:35 PM
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TSalexei	Feb 27 2014, 02:34 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #6
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	Tips to Improve Engine Performance » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Minor mod (increase acceleration) 1. Remove air filter. 2. Reset carburetor air-fuel setting. 3. Set valve tapette to 10 IN and 15 OUT. - RM30 labour charge @ New Bee Hock motor, Penang. 4. Change to 15-40 with 415 chain. - RM100 Carburator General Tuning Guideline: LC135 V1 VM carb: » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « A. Change the idle air-fuel mixture setting 1st. B. If still not satisfied, change the needle position. C. If none of the needle position is good, change the jettings. A. Idle air-fuel mixture settings 1. Air screw set at about 2.5 turns for stock airflow. Modified exhaust + air filterless can use 2 turns. 2. Idle rpm increase a little more than normal. B. Needle setting 1. There are 3 ticks on the needle jet. 2. The lowest tick will give us good FC, as it limits more petrol to flow from mainjet @ half throttle 3. The highest tick will give us bad FC, as it let more petrol flows from mainjet @ half throttle. However, highest tick does not mean best acceleration. If too much petrol flows into the venturi, the mixture will become too rich. This will decrease the power at high rpm. So, try different needle clip position and feel which one has the best results. C. Jet size setting 1. Change mainjet to #107.5 (stock #105) 2. Change pilotjet to #22.5 (stock #20). If there is no performance increase, then stick back to #20. 3. Change mainjet to #110 + pilotjet #22.5. <-- this should be a good pair. Anything more than #110 mainjet will make the engine feels heavy, bcoz the mixture becomes too rich. LC135 V2 BS carb: » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « QUOTE(piju @ Jun 3 2014, 11:46 PM) my experiment on MIKUNI BS25. after day and day trying to get optimum setting for this carburetor, i have found that 3 turns of pilot screw is the best setting for acceleration also cold start. i have tried 2 1/2, 2 3/4 and 2 5/8 turns out. throttle response is better than stock setting written on service manual which is 2 and 3/4 turns out. since the pilot screw for mikuni bs25 is controlling both air and fuel, not controlling the air or fuel only. i think 3 turns out is the optimum setting for it. my opinion, if anybody wants to get better result on top speed, maybe they need to consider rejetting the carburetor since pilot screw only affecting idle and first step of acceleration. which is not in my mind at the moment. because i think that rejetting the carb only is not an economical wise choice. we need to consider changing the piston and block size, bigger valves, harden valve springs, high lift or high duration camshaft, bigger intake manifold, bigger exhaust, high output ignition coil, sprockets ratio and so on to make them balanced each others since they are related to each others. to those who wants to make a light modifications for better performance than factory setting to their yamaha lc v2, my suggestion is :- 1. resetting your stock pilot screw setting on your carburetor 2. play around which your sprocket ratio ( this setting is vary from people to people since our body weight is different ) 3. change to bigger size exhaust, but not too big. maximum size is +6mm than stock exhaust. 28mm is maximum. 4. change to lighter sprocket and drive chain. 5. change to smaller tyre size. if you ride less than 100kmh daily, better use 10w 40 semi synthetic. more than 100kmh daily, better use 15w 50. Relationship of Conrod and Stroke length to engine performance Camshaft and Timing: Reference: Compilation by LC150 blogspot Source: Cam timing article What Happens When We Advance A SOHC Cam Gear?: - Advancing the Cam : closes the intake valve earlier, increasing cylinder pressure and power in the low to mid-range rpms, and reducing peak power. - Retarding (or Delaying) the Cam : closes the intake valve later, which reduces low to mid-range power (and may reduce pinging), but potentially improves peak power. Summary Effects of Advancing/Retarding SOHC Cam Timing: Advancing vs Retarding Begins Intake Event Sooner Delays Intake Event Closes\Open Intake Valve Sooner Keeps Intake Valve Open Later Builds More Low-End Torque Builds More High-End Horsepower Decrease Piston-Intake Valve Cl. Increase Piston-Intake Valve Cl. Increase Piston-Exhaust Valve Cl. Decrease Piston-Exhaust Valve Cl. LSA = Lobe separation angle: Cam Overlap is inversely affected by LSA. The size of the LSA affects the size of the cam overlap proportionately but in the opposite direction to one another. Increase LSA and you decrease Overlap. Reduce LSA and you increase Overlap. More Cam Overlap gives you more Upper RPM power gains. The tighter the LSA: More scavenging, the higher up the powerband shifts along the rpm range and the narrower the powerband becomes. Overlap is increased. Widen the LSA: Less scavenging, the lower the powerband shifts along the rpm range and the wider the powerband becomes. Overlap is decreased. Summary of the Effects of Adjusting Lobe Separation Angle ------------ Tighten vs Widen Moves Torque to Higher RPM Moves Torque to Lower RPM Increases Maximum Torque Reduces Maximum Torque Narrow Powerband Broadens Power Band Builds Higher Cylinder Pressure Reduce Maximum Cylinder Pressure Increase Chance of Engine Knock Decrease Chance of Engine Knock Increase Cranking Compression Decrease Cranking Compression Increase Efective Compression Decrease Efective Compression Idle Vacuum is Reduced Idle Vacuum is Increased Idle Quality Suffers Idle Quality Improves Open Valve-Overlap Increases Open Valve-Overlap Decreases Closed Valve-Overlap Increases Closed Valve-Overlap Decreases Decreases Piston-to-Valve Clearance Increases Piston-to-Valve Clearance Disc Brake Tuning Methodology » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « The theory covers the relationship between the total areas of the brake pots (Note, its area not count), brake pads, masterpump, the rigidity of the brake hose and the property of the brake pads. The point of improvement is to look for the limit of the system and upgrade it. 1. Single pot is less prone to uneven brake force compared to multiple pots when in case one of the pot jams. 2. Changing the brake rotor is a start. But if you do not see improvements, that means rotor is not the limitation, and you need to change other things to do a stopee (Nose brake). 3. Change brake hose to steel braided, so it is less likely to expand and eat up the brake budget. Try this, wrap ur hands around standard brake hose, and press the brake you will feel it expand. Anymore you press also won't increase braking performance. 4. Change to DOT5 brake oil (normal 1 can, but easily overheat. I go hill run for >1 hr, DOT5 is mandatory) 5. Change brake pads, I use Ferodo imported by Racing Boy. Ask for original ones, one set front about RM30~40. You can see more copper strands on the pads. Other good pads use metal strands so u can see silverly metal strands. 6. Must stiffen front fork absorber, and add a stabilizer bar. Use 15W-20 fork oil, make it about 25% stiffer than stock. 20W-50 fork oil is too stiff bcoz the oil is too not lean enuf, the bound and rebound SUX, I feel like riding on a horse. The traction sux too, because front tyre can hardly grip on the road when going through uneven road (esp penang road). 7. Use ABS device (about RM100) <-- optional Setting Up Your Monoshock / Fork » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « For step-by-step and detailed guides on how to tune your monoshock / fork, please refer to the following link since the whole guides are too long to be pasted here Increase Top Speed In Stock 2011 Yamaha 135LC » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Click on the link to know more on how to break the barrier [Top Speed] of 2011 Yamaha 135LC HERE This post has been edited by alexei: Apr 9 2015, 03:14 PM
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TSalexei	Feb 27 2014, 02:34 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #7
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	Credit to bro Patrickloo for the videos Update me with videos of any nice routes. Videos shown above can be used as a guide line on how the road looks like and for reference usage. Yum Cha Session Photo » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Wonders of Penang Island Relau - Balik Pulau » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « hSKz28GR7MQ Balik Pulau - Teluk Bahang » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « _OcNWa_RQBY _________________________________________________________________________________________________ Wonders of Gerik Peak Of Titiwangsa » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « rkhjSCPX7uk This post has been edited by alexei: Jan 5 2016, 02:04 PM
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thianz	Feb 27 2014, 06:01 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #9
New Member Junior Member 16 posts Joined: Jan 2009	QUOTE(NewGUY @ Feb 27 2014, 03:25 PM) first time 1st... fuyoh ... eric pertama .....
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crappy123	Feb 27 2014, 07:20 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #10
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Rascal Stitch	Feb 27 2014, 07:27 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #11
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jern25	Feb 27 2014, 10:49 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #12
Enthusiast Senior Member 827 posts Joined: Dec 2011	whats the best engine oil recommended especially if i use my LC for long distance daily ride.
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serigala	Feb 28 2014, 02:17 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #13
CurSedWolf Senior Member 1,439 posts Joined: Jan 2008 From: Dungeons of the Wolves	parking dulu.. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « This post has been edited by serigala: Feb 28 2014, 02:19 AM
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mls_gamer	Feb 28 2014, 04:05 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #14
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mohamadnizam	Feb 28 2014, 06:55 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #15
Getting Started Junior Member 280 posts Joined: Jun 2011	QUOTE(jern25 @ Feb 27 2014, 10:49 PM) whats the best engine oil recommended especially if i use my LC for long distance daily ride. Ive been using motul 5100 w/ esther 15-50w..
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TSalexei	Feb 28 2014, 09:54 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #16
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(jern25 @ Feb 27 2014, 10:49 PM) whats the best engine oil recommended especially if i use my LC for long distance daily ride. welcome, you can refer to tips up there, especially recommended EO for bikes that should answer your question.
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TSalexei	Feb 28 2014, 09:56 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #17
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(serigala @ Feb 28 2014, 02:17 AM) parking dulu.. bro, your bike pic added. wanna add you to the namelist: name \| state \| model \| year of purchase pls... This post has been edited by alexei: Feb 28 2014, 09:56 AM
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serigala	Feb 28 2014, 10:31 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #18
CurSedWolf Senior Member 1,439 posts Joined: Jan 2008 From: Dungeons of the Wolves	QUOTE(alexei @ Feb 28 2014, 09:56 AM) bro, your bike pic added. wanna add you to the namelist: name \| state \| model \| year of purchase pls... Serigala \| K.Terengganu \| ES \| Oct 2008 This post has been edited by serigala: Feb 28 2014, 10:32 AM
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Rascal Stitch	Feb 28 2014, 10:40 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #19
New Member Junior Member 40 posts Joined: Apr 2010 From: Old Klang Road~	aiks,i forgot to put myself in even i was d last TS~
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TSalexei	Feb 28 2014, 11:07 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #20
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(Rascal Stitch @ Feb 28 2014, 10:40 AM) aiks,i forgot to put myself in even i was d last TS~ pm me or reply your info.
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Rascal Stitch	Feb 28 2014, 11:30 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #21
New Member Junior Member 40 posts Joined: Apr 2010 From: Old Klang Road~	QUOTE(alexei @ Feb 28 2014, 12:07 PM) pm me or reply your info. mine is 2012/new LC not ES /from KL~
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serigala	Feb 28 2014, 12:26 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #22
CurSedWolf Senior Member 1,439 posts Joined: Jan 2008 From: Dungeons of the Wolves	QUOTE(Rascal Stitch @ Feb 28 2014, 11:30 AM) mine is 2012/new LC not ES /from KL~ or simple we can say \|SS 2nd Gen\|
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jern25	Feb 28 2014, 01:19 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #23
Enthusiast Senior Member 827 posts Joined: Dec 2011	QUOTE(mohamadnizam @ Feb 28 2014, 06:55 AM) Ive been using motul 5100 w/ esther 15-50w.. how much is the price for this EO? around RM50? Any recommended shop to buy in KL?
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TSalexei	Feb 28 2014, 02:16 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #24
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(jern25 @ Feb 28 2014, 01:19 PM) how much is the price for this EO? around RM50? Any recommended shop to buy in KL? Please read the 'break-in' method above. Do not start a new bike with fully synthetics.
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TSalexei	Feb 28 2014, 02:21 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #25
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	jern25serigalaRascal Stitch Added: 118. jern25 \| State \| SS \| Feb 2014 119. serigala \| K.Terengganu \| ES \| Oct 2008 120. Rascal Stitch \| KL \| SS v2 \| 2012
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mohamadnizam	Feb 28 2014, 02:58 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #26
Getting Started Junior Member 280 posts Joined: Jun 2011	QUOTE(jern25 @ Feb 28 2014, 01:19 PM) how much is the price for this EO? around RM50? Any recommended shop to buy in KL? I got it for RM38. Usually i just change the plug, Oil filter and EO at the same time. Got it for RM60++. Some places sell that EO for Rm50. And that workshop is located in ampang. Near kosas. But yeah. Dont use fully synthetics oil for new bike. Edit. OP, please put my bike on the list. Thanks. Nizam \| Selangor \| ES \| Jan 2010 This post has been edited by mohamadnizam: Feb 28 2014, 06:52 PM
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thianz	Mar 1 2014, 02:48 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #27
New Member Junior Member 16 posts Joined: Jan 2009	QUOTE(mohamadnizam @ Feb 28 2014, 02:58 PM) I got it for RM38. Usually i just change the plug, Oil filter and EO at the same time. Got it for RM60++. Some places sell that EO for Rm50. And that workshop is located in ampang. Near kosas. But yeah. Dont use fully synthetics oil for new bike. Edit. OP, please put my bike on the list. Thanks. Nizam \| Selangor \| ES \| Jan 2010 macam pernah jumpa motor ni jer .....
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mohamadnizam	Mar 1 2014, 10:27 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #28
Getting Started Junior Member 280 posts Joined: Jun 2011	QUOTE(thianz @ Mar 1 2014, 02:48 AM) macam pernah jumpa motor ni jer ..... Lol. Where?
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crappy123	Mar 1 2014, 08:27 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #29
New Member Newbie 1 posts Joined: Jul 2011	fuhyoh fenderless. m1 really powerful exhaust.
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Rascal Stitch	Mar 1 2014, 08:29 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #30
New Member Junior Member 40 posts Joined: Apr 2010 From: Old Klang Road~	QUOTE(serigala @ Feb 28 2014, 01:26 PM) or simple we can say \|SS 2nd Gen\| ss? hmmm~
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serigala	Mar 1 2014, 11:28 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #31
CurSedWolf Senior Member 1,439 posts Joined: Jan 2008 From: Dungeons of the Wolves	QUOTE(Rascal Stitch @ Mar 1 2014, 08:29 PM) ss? hmmm~ Super Sport Extreme Spirit
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TSalexei	Mar 2 2014, 12:12 AM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #32
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(mohamadnizam @ Feb 28 2014, 02:58 PM) Edit. OP, please put my bike on the list. Thanks. Added... welcome Nizam.
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mohamadnizam	Mar 2 2014, 12:42 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #33
Getting Started Junior Member 280 posts Joined: Jun 2011	QUOTE(crappy123 @ Mar 1 2014, 08:27 PM) fuhyoh fenderless. m1 really powerful exhaust. Lol. Its sure is. I tried the long one. The sound aint bad. But this one. Cubprix version. The sound is damn nice. And you can feel the diff when on top speed. Been using this about half a year. All i can say is. Money well spent. QUOTE(alexei @ Mar 2 2014, 12:12 AM) Added... welcome Nizam. Thanks boss. This post has been edited by mohamadnizam: Mar 2 2014, 12:43 AM
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MrBushido25	Mar 2 2014, 12:56 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #34
Getting Started Junior Member 79 posts Joined: Feb 2011 From: Nanna nanana..gannu kiieeteEE!!	anyone knows where to find lc "sampan" in kuala terengganu and kuantan, with price as well in case if u guys know...
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Rascal Stitch	Mar 3 2014, 08:42 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #35
New Member Junior Member 40 posts Joined: Apr 2010 From: Old Klang Road~	QUOTE(serigala @ Mar 2 2014, 12:28 AM) Super Sport Extreme Spirit oh ok~
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TSalexei	Mar 3 2014, 11:39 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #36
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(MrBushido25 @ Mar 2 2014, 12:56 AM) anyone knows where to find lc "sampan" in kuala terengganu and kuantan, with price as well in case if u guys know... the aluminium segitiga at the front tyer?
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serigala	Mar 3 2014, 01:22 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #37
CurSedWolf Senior Member 1,439 posts Joined: Jan 2008 From: Dungeons of the Wolves	QUOTE(alexei @ Mar 3 2014, 11:39 AM) the aluminium segitiga at the front tyer? i think he mean belly pan..
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arthur88	Mar 4 2014, 02:28 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #38
Regular Senior Member 1,070 posts Joined: Feb 2008	thinking to get a lc135, but after google around i notice there are two types, one is normal yamaha lc135, another one is yamaha lc135 ES... what is the difference?
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serigala	Mar 4 2014, 05:51 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #39
CurSedWolf Senior Member 1,439 posts Joined: Jan 2008 From: Dungeons of the Wolves	QUOTE(arthur88 @ Mar 4 2014, 02:28 PM) thinking to get a lc135, but after google around i notice there are two types, one is normal yamaha lc135, another one is yamaha lc135 ES... what is the difference? ES use manual clutch..just like yamaha 125 and most big bikes.. normal or SS(supersport) have auto clutch..
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arthur88	Mar 4 2014, 07:14 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #40
Regular Senior Member 1,070 posts Joined: Feb 2008	QUOTE(serigala @ Mar 4 2014, 05:51 PM) ES use manual clutch..just like yamaha 125 and most big bikes.. normal or SS(supersport) have auto clutch.. is this only the difference? performance wise or fuel consumption wise no difference? another question, for auto clutch, how to differentiate? beside the obvious Super Sport word on the bike body...
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serigala	Mar 4 2014, 08:26 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #41
CurSedWolf Senior Member 1,439 posts Joined: Jan 2008 From: Dungeons of the Wolves	QUOTE(arthur88 @ Mar 4 2014, 07:14 PM) is this only the difference? performance wise or fuel consumption wise no difference? another question, for auto clutch, how to differentiate? beside the obvious Super Sport word on the bike body... performance wise,if u can handle the clutch well,the bike will perform better on acceleration..fuel consumption,negligible,not much differ on the left hand side,ES u will see the clutch lever, SS no clutch lever Foot rest and gear shifter also different..and the way u shift gear also different Rider FootRest - ES come with spring and fold-able (in event of bike lean to low or dropped) - SS fixed Gear Shifter -ES gear shifter is only one sided (front only,like the big bikes one) and rubberized -SS gear shifter have front and rear..like ex5.. Gear Shifting -ES gear shifting down to 1st gear..then u pull it up to 2-3-4 -SS all down 1-2-3-4
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TSalexei	Mar 4 2014, 10:48 PM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #42
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(arthur88 @ Mar 4 2014, 07:14 PM) is this only the difference? performance wise or fuel consumption wise no difference? another question, for auto clutch, how to differentiate? beside the obvious Super Sport word on the bike body... The ES v2 is 5 speed version, with diaphragm carb. All others use round slide carb with accelerator pump. Empirical data suggests diaphragm carb is more fuel efficient, mainly because of the accelerator pump on the round slide carb. ES v2 has wider rims and rear disc brake.
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arthur88	Mar 5 2014, 12:57 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #43
Regular Senior Member 1,070 posts Joined: Feb 2008	QUOTE(serigala @ Mar 4 2014, 08:26 PM) performance wise,if u can handle the clutch well,the bike will perform better on acceleration..fuel consumption,negligible,not much differ on the left hand side,ES u will see the clutch lever, SS no clutch lever Foot rest and gear shifter also different..and the way u shift gear also different Rider FootRest - ES come with spring and fold-able (in event of bike lean to low or dropped) - SS fixed Gear Shifter -ES gear shifter is only one sided (front only,like the big bikes one) and rubberized -SS gear shifter have front and rear..like ex5.. Gear Shifting -ES gear shifting down to 1st gear..then u pull it up to 2-3-4 -SS all down 1-2-3-4 thanks for the advice...i have no idea at all about these.. can give any advice which model to get? currently what price? today i asked motor shop, got clutch 7k, no clutch 6.6k... which i duno which model is that by that time... so, ES is more expensive due to got clutch? that's all? or got other accessories? i only start to dig info about LC135 cause gonna change to bigger CC motor...currently rempit on kapcai ex5...
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arthur88	Mar 5 2014, 12:59 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #44
Regular Senior Member 1,070 posts Joined: Feb 2008	QUOTE(alexei @ Mar 4 2014, 10:48 PM) The ES v2 is 5 speed version, with diaphragm carb. All others use round slide carb with accelerator pump. Empirical data suggests diaphragm carb is more fuel efficient, mainly because of the accelerator pump on the round slide carb. ES v2 has wider rims and rear disc brake. definitely duno what is diaphragm carb... but as serigala said, fuel consumption wise is negligible...u agree on that? i believe data sheets are just wording game...still come down to real user... need to get one bigger CC bike...now only start to do some homework, surveying price...
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wady89	Mar 5 2014, 09:37 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #45
New Member Newbie 3 posts Joined: Feb 2012	hye guys, im newbie here.. i have use my 135lc for 3 1/2 years, the only service i done in this 3 1/2 years is minyak hitam, plug, oil filter, spoket rantai, air coolant but not in proper time as stated by you guys, now top and pickup is decrease also it performance, what should i do to increase my beloved 135lc?? any question just hit me with it
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TSalexei	Mar 5 2014, 10:22 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #46
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(arthur88 @ Mar 5 2014, 12:59 AM) definitely duno what is diaphragm carb... but as serigala said, fuel consumption wise is negligible...u agree on that? i believe data sheets are just wording game...still come down to real user... need to get one bigger CC bike...now only start to do some homework, surveying price... Fuel consumption is subjective. Let me ask you this: Any difference between 120km per tank, vs 130km per tank? - To some, it is negligible, but to me, it is 7.7% difference, which is huge. - In my opinion, when such a difference happen, it is time for me to service my carburator. Fuel consumption higher on accelerator pumps is not just numbers, it's a fact - petrol is directly injected into the carb venturi. A short read (from facebook, not so technical) on carb comparison here: https://es-la.facebook.com/motomalaya/posts/164391890282940 QUOTE(wady89 @ Mar 5 2014, 09:37 AM) hye guys, im newbie here.. i have use my 135lc for 3 1/2 years, the only service i done in this 3 1/2 years is minyak hitam, plug, oil filter, spoket rantai, air coolant but not in proper time as stated by you guys, now top and pickup is decrease also it performance, what should i do to increase my beloved 135lc?? any question just hit me with it Welcome, wady89. When you say 'decrease' and 'increase', preferably if you can be more specific. Example: - It takes 0.5s more to accelerate third gear from 80-100kmh. - Topspeed on the same highway reduced to 110kmh, where it used to be 125kmh. As for your service routine, have you done the carb and air filter service? What EO do you use? What does your spark plug look like when the old one is taken out? This post has been edited by alexei: Mar 5 2014, 10:25 AM
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wady89	Mar 5 2014, 10:38 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #47
New Member Newbie 3 posts Joined: Feb 2012	QUOTE(alexei @ Mar 5 2014, 10:22 AM) Welcome, wady89. When you say 'decrease' and 'increase', preferably if you can be more specific. Example: - It takes 0.5s more to accelerate third gear from 80-100kmh. - Topspeed on the same highway reduced to 110kmh, where it used to be 125kmh. As for your service routine, have you done the carb and air filter service? What EO do you use? What does your spark plug look like when the old one is taken out? "Topspeed on the same highway reduced to 110kmh, where it used to be 125kmh"- agreed on this statement As for your service routine, have you done the carb and air filter service? err..i believe i never done this before What EO do you use? motul 5100 10w40 before, last EO is Castrol power1 racing 10w40 What does your spark plug look like when the old one is taken out? i forgot about this, maybe i go check today i just know basic of service sry
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TSalexei	Mar 5 2014, 11:09 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #48
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(wady89 @ Mar 5 2014, 10:38 AM) "Topspeed on the same highway reduced to 110kmh, where it used to be 125kmh"- agreed on this statement As for your service routine, have you done the carb and air filter service? err..i believe i never done this before What EO do you use? motul 5100 10w40 before, last EO is Castrol power1 racing 10w40 What does your spark plug look like when the old one is taken out? i forgot about this, maybe i go check today i just know basic of service sry Get the carb cleaned up, and notice how the different engine response when cold vs hot. It should be difficult to start, sometimes need choke when early in the morning and the bike is cold. When engine is hot, it should be easy to restart.
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wady89	Mar 5 2014, 11:21 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #49
New Member Newbie 3 posts Joined: Feb 2012	QUOTE(alexei @ Mar 5 2014, 11:09 AM) Get the carb cleaned up, and notice how the different engine response when cold vs hot. It should be difficult to start, sometimes need choke when early in the morning and the bike is cold. When engine is hot, it should be easy to restart. okie dokie..thx, how about the air filter? any more suggestion? my rear tyre need to change, so any suggestion in term of type or brand suitable? now i`m using 90/80 duro This post has been edited by wady89: Mar 5 2014, 11:34 AM
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arthur88	Mar 5 2014, 11:46 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #50
Regular Senior Member 1,070 posts Joined: Feb 2008	https://motomalaya.net/blog/2011/04/24/2011...nd-differences/ just read about the link above. u guys that have been riding LC135 here got anything/any additional info to add? pros and cons between these two?
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TSalexei	Mar 5 2014, 01:20 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #51
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(wady89 @ Mar 5 2014, 11:21 AM) okie dokie..thx, how about the air filter? any more suggestion? my rear tyre need to change, so any suggestion in term of type or brand suitable? now i`m using 90/80 duro Standard air filter, just air gun clean it. That tyre is fine, IMO.
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jern25	Mar 5 2014, 01:45 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #52
Enthusiast Senior Member 827 posts Joined: Dec 2011	QUOTE(alexei @ Mar 5 2014, 11:09 AM) Get the carb cleaned up, and notice how the different engine response when cold vs hot. It should be difficult to start, sometimes need choke when early in the morning and the bike is cold. When engine is hot, it should be easy to restart. how is normally workshop will charge for carb cleaning?
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wady89	Mar 5 2014, 01:50 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #53
New Member Newbie 3 posts Joined: Feb 2012	QUOTE(alexei @ Mar 5 2014, 01:20 PM) Standard air filter, just air gun clean it. That tyre is fine, IMO. how about size? what is the different?
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TSalexei	Mar 5 2014, 04:10 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #54
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(jern25 @ Mar 5 2014, 01:45 PM) how is normally workshop will charge for carb cleaning? I don't know anymore, I clean it myself. Maybe RM15~20. QUOTE(wady89 @ Mar 5 2014, 01:50 PM) how about size? what is the different? Best use standard size, 70/90 front, 80/90 rear. 90/80 rear also ok.
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wady89	Mar 5 2014, 04:56 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #55
New Member Newbie 3 posts Joined: Feb 2012	QUOTE(alexei @ Mar 5 2014, 04:10 PM) I don't know anymore, I clean it myself. Maybe RM15~20. Best use standard size, 70/90 front, 80/90 rear. 90/80 rear also ok. thank you, how about little mod to increase top or pickup??
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MrBushido25	Mar 5 2014, 05:20 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #56
Getting Started Junior Member 79 posts Joined: Feb 2011 From: Nanna nanana..gannu kiieeteEE!!	QUOTE(serigala @ Mar 3 2014, 01:22 PM) i think he mean belly pan.. Yeah, the bellypan
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MrBushido25	Mar 5 2014, 05:27 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #57
Getting Started Junior Member 79 posts Joined: Feb 2011 From: Nanna nanana..gannu kiieeteEE!!	I want to ask, What's is the difference of 10-40w and 20-50w EO on lc, in terms of performance, I'm thinking of buying the brt cdi, does it would be harmful to std engine? About the carburetor setting, I've red somewhere said that you can increase pickup by tweaking the carb jet, though i don't what do you call of for that setting, so could somebody explain about this please? Thanks This post has been edited by MrBushido25: Mar 5 2014, 05:28 PM
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jern25	Mar 5 2014, 05:33 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #58
Enthusiast Senior Member 827 posts Joined: Dec 2011	QUOTE(alexei @ Mar 5 2014, 04:10 PM) I don't know anymore, I clean it myself. Maybe RM15~20. Best use standard size, 70/90 front, 80/90 rear. 90/80 rear also ok. for me std tyre is quite small for someone like me (109kg). what size do u think suitable and fits with stock sport rim?
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MrBushido25	Mar 5 2014, 05:38 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #59
Getting Started Junior Member 79 posts Joined: Feb 2011 From: Nanna nanana..gannu kiieeteEE!!	QUOTE(wady89 @ Mar 5 2014, 09:37 AM) hye guys, im newbie here.. i have use my 135lc for 3 1/2 years, the only service i done in this 3 1/2 years is minyak hitam, plug, oil filter, spoket rantai, air coolant but not in proper time as stated by you guys, now top and pickup is decrease also it performance, what should i do to increase my beloved 135lc?? any question just hit me with it Its typical for most bike to decline in perf as time pass, as a std bike user myself, I regularly change my EO every 2000 or 1500 km mileage, you know just for guaranteed maintainance, it also depends on what EO you used as well, ask opinions of what's the best from pomen, I myself use maxoil, most people recommends jtx,shell vsx depends on your budget too though, if significant perf reduction hapens , you might wanna get your bike for some checkup, apart from these advice I got none, maybe you wanna hook up a new cdi This post has been edited by MrBushido25: Mar 5 2014, 05:39 PM
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MrBushido25	Mar 5 2014, 05:43 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #60
Getting Started Junior Member 79 posts Joined: Feb 2011 From: Nanna nanana..gannu kiieeteEE!!	QUOTE(jern25 @ Mar 5 2014, 05:33 PM) for me std tyre is quite small for someone like me (109kg). what size do u think suitable and fits with stock sport rim? I used front tire 80/90 and rear is kinda big, I forgot the size, its the v2 ES tyre, by duro, I got it from a bike shop in kuantan, it has the original Yamaha package on it, its a big and nice tyre, you might wanna check it out This post has been edited by MrBushido25: Mar 5 2014, 05:44 PM
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wady89	Mar 5 2014, 05:49 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #61
New Member Newbie 3 posts Joined: Feb 2012	QUOTE(MrBushido25 @ Mar 5 2014, 05:38 PM) Its typical for most bike to decline in perf as time pass, as a std bike user myself, I regularly change my EO every 2000 or 1500 km mileage, you know just for guaranteed maintainance, it also depends on what EO you used as well, ask opinions of what's the best from pomen, I myself use maxoil, most people recommends jtx,shell vsx depends on your budget too though, if significant perf reduction hapens , you might wanna get your bike for some checkup, apart from these advice I got none, maybe you wanna hook up a new cdi i need to find best pomen in s.alam or klang area, anyone got any idea where?
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TSalexei	Mar 5 2014, 06:06 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #62
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(wady89 @ Mar 5 2014, 04:56 PM) thank you, how about little mod to increase top or pickup?? Start with stage 1 upgrade stuff. Spend some time on it. QUOTE(MrBushido25 @ Mar 5 2014, 05:27 PM) I want to ask, What's is the difference of 10-40w and 20-50w EO on lc, in terms of performance, I'm thinking of buying the brt cdi, does it would be harmful to std engine? About the carburetor setting, I've red somewhere said that you can increase pickup by tweaking the carb jet, though i don't what do you call of for that setting, so could somebody explain about this please? Thanks 10-40W is thinner (lower viscosity) than 20-50W at same temperature. So, the rest you can figure out. Use the oil recommended by manufacturer, except if your bike is modded. Once modded, you need to trial and error. On carb jetting, there are some explanation on page 1, I think. Go through that first, and see if you have any questions. QUOTE(jern25 @ Mar 5 2014, 05:33 PM) for me std tyre is quite small for someone like me (109kg). what size do u think suitable and fits with stock sport rim? I don't think so...
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wady89	Mar 5 2014, 08:30 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #63
New Member Newbie 3 posts Joined: Feb 2012	QUOTE(alexei @ Mar 5 2014, 06:06 PM) Start with stage 1 upgrade stuff. Spend some time on it. This one? Minor mod (increase acceleration) 1. Remove air filter. 2. Reset carburetor air-fuel setting. 3. Set valve tapette to 10 IN and 15 OUT. - RM30 labour charge @ New Bee Hock motor, Penang. 4. Change to 15-40 with 415 chain. - RM100
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TSalexei	Mar 5 2014, 10:38 PM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #64
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(wady89 @ Mar 5 2014, 08:30 PM) This one? Minor mod (increase acceleration) 1. Remove air filter. 2. Reset carburetor air-fuel setting. 3. Set valve tapette to 10 IN and 15 OUT. - RM30 labour charge @ New Bee Hock motor, Penang. 4. Change to 15-40 with 415 chain. - RM100 Stage 1 mod concept covers a lot of stuff, but in essence anything that can be immediately bolted on, or directly swapped out from stock, without additional work to be done to the engine. It is not just about improving performance, but also handling of the vehicle. - High flow air filter, or removed stock air filter. - Exhaust - Lightened wheels, chains and sprockets - Brake pads, hose - Engine oil (10W-30) - Spring, fork oil, monoshock - Spark plug, plug cable Stage 2 can be more aggressive of stage 1 mods, require more work on the engines, or adding things: - Intake+Exhaust port and polish: valve and tappet - Big bore block + piston kit + carb - Camshaft - Crankshaft, jack rod, jack pin etc - Gearset - Oil cooler - Radiator fan - Weight reduction - CDI remap Stage 3 is race preparation, which I don't know a lot about.
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serigala	Mar 5 2014, 10:45 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #65
CurSedWolf Senior Member 1,439 posts Joined: Jan 2008 From: Dungeons of the Wolves	QUOTE(MrBushido25 @ Mar 5 2014, 05:20 PM) Yeah, the bellypan HVM jerteh or order online..palex got i think QUOTE(MrBushido25 @ Mar 5 2014, 05:27 PM) I want to ask, What's is the difference of 10-40w and 20-50w EO on lc, in terms of performance, I'm thinking of buying the brt cdi, does it would be harmful to std engine? About the carburetor setting, I've red somewhere said that you can increase pickup by tweaking the carb jet, though i don't what do you call of for that setting, so could somebody explain about this please? Thanks after market CDI wont do much effect on stock..just removing ur rpm limiter (which i think better for u to stay below 8500 rpm) reset the carb to get the best air/fuel ratio will increase performance..after u remove the air filter la(or change to aftermarket one eg: K&N) btw, u stay in kuala terengganu? QUOTE(jern25 @ Mar 5 2014, 05:33 PM) for me std tyre is quite small for someone like me (109kg). what size do u think suitable and fits with stock sport rim? stock rim best tire size is 70/90 F and 80/90 R on 5s 70/90 F and 90/80 R or 100/80 R go over that size kinda dangerous and wasting rubber
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jern25	Mar 6 2014, 10:17 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #66
Enthusiast Senior Member 827 posts Joined: Dec 2011	QUOTE(serigala @ Mar 5 2014, 10:45 PM) stock rim best tire size is 70/90 F and 80/90 R on 5s 70/90 F and 90/80 R or 100/80 R go over that size kinda dangerous and wasting rubber im sorry, but what is 5s?
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wady89	Mar 6 2014, 01:36 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #67
New Member Newbie 3 posts Joined: Feb 2012	QUOTE(alexei @ Mar 5 2014, 10:38 PM) Stage 1 mod concept covers a lot of stuff, but in essence anything that can be immediately bolted on, or directly swapped out from stock, without additional work to be done to the engine. It is not just about improving performance, but also handling of the vehicle. - High flow air filter, or removed stock air filter. - Exhaust - Lightened wheels, chains and sprockets - Brake pads, hose - Engine oil (10W-30) - Spring, fork oil, monoshock - Spark plug, plug cable Stage 2 can be more aggressive of stage 1 mods, require more work on the engines, or adding things: - Intake+Exhaust port and polish: valve and tappet - Big bore block + piston kit + carb - Camshaft - Crankshaft, jack rod, jack pin etc - Gearset - Oil cooler - Radiator fan - Weight reduction - CDI remap Stage 3 is race preparation, which I don't know a lot about. - High flow air filter, or removed stock air filter. - Exhaust - Lightened wheels, chains and sprockets - Brake pads, hose - Engine oil (10W-30) - Spring, fork oil, monoshock - Spark plug, plug cable can give me suggestion brand, just put what you believe is the best, how much the cost will be? estimation is ok This post has been edited by wady89: Mar 6 2014, 01:39 PM
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serigala	Mar 6 2014, 03:10 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #68
CurSedWolf Senior Member 1,439 posts Joined: Jan 2008 From: Dungeons of the Wolves	QUOTE(jern25 @ Mar 6 2014, 10:17 AM) im sorry, but what is 5s? 135lc 5 speed version the new version with handclutch
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jern25	Mar 6 2014, 05:42 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #69
Enthusiast Senior Member 827 posts Joined: Dec 2011	QUOTE(serigala @ Mar 6 2014, 03:10 PM) 135lc 5 speed version the new version with handclutch ic. meaning that, for lc 4s, its best to stick with its current stock tyre size?
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MiztaLegendary	Mar 6 2014, 09:47 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #70
Getting Started Junior Member 84 posts Joined: Aug 2012	Goin to get my ES 5s soon. This group wl bcme handy for infos. Thanks all for the info sharing. This post has been edited by MiztaLegendary: Mar 6 2014, 10:06 PM
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jaylim94	Mar 6 2014, 11:40 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #71
On my way Senior Member 522 posts Joined: Sep 2012 From: Selangor	Hello there, Anyone can share about the fuel consumption for 135 LC ES (5s)? Eg. RM ? can go for ? km OR ?km/L + How about compare to Y125ZR ? Thanks for sharing
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TSalexei	Mar 6 2014, 11:46 PM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #72
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	As some of you are new to this forum, I am only moderating this V18. I currently do not own any Yamaha LC, so my experience with this bike is limited. I only own 2 strokes, and knows a thing or two about motorcycle. If I do not answer your questions, it simply means I do not know. Please be patient, and wait for sifu to reply you. QUOTE(wady89 @ Mar 6 2014, 01:36 PM) - High flow air filter, or removed stock air filter. - Exhaust - Lightened wheels, chains and sprockets - Brake pads, hose - Engine oil (10W-30) - Spring, fork oil, monoshock - Spark plug, plug cable can give me suggestion brand, just put what you believe is the best, how much the cost will be? estimation is ok Air filter can use UNI, or K&N. Not sure how much. Got other high flow ones. Brake pads got a lot of brand, Elig, Ferodo are some I know. Making sure the pads and disc do not kena oil is the key. Engine oil can be RM20-50+. Check page one for recommended bike EO. Fork oil must make sure both side balance. You can use cap ayam RM3, to Motul. Monoshock Kayaba is pretty good. Spark plug NGK G-power RM12. Other like Iridium would be expensive around RM50. NGK plug cable about RM30, red color. These mods above is to let your bike use better parts, and may require some minor setting adjustments such as pilot screw with the installation of high flow air filters. You can easily spend up to RM300~400, and do not get huge improvements. Stage 2 will really burn your pocket, and that I have no experience. Need to ask owners like serigala, thianz, crappy123. QUOTE(jern25 @ Mar 6 2014, 05:42 PM) ic. meaning that, for lc 4s, its best to stick with its current stock tyre size? yes. the tyres have to match the rim size, not the weight. those tyres can carry weight, as normal two passengers would weight >120kg, or those penjaja EX5, just imagine.
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TSalexei	Mar 6 2014, 11:53 PM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #73
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(MiztaLegendary @ Mar 6 2014, 09:47 PM) Goin to get my ES 5s soon. This group wl bcme handy for infos. Thanks all for the info sharing. Looking forward to your membership here. QUOTE(jaylim94 @ Mar 6 2014, 11:40 PM) Hello there, Anyone can share about the fuel consumption for 135 LC ES (5s)? Eg. RM ? can go for ? km OR ?km/L + How about compare to Y125ZR ? Thanks for sharing We talked about this in V17, and many times before. I think the numbers are like RM8 for 140km like that. In theory, this is a 40 km per liter bike, so at RM8, it should be able to go 160km. I am sure it can do better if tuned for better fuel efficiency. I won't be surprised if it can do 200km. 125z I'm not sure, but as many 2 strokes, it can vary a lot. A poorly tuned one would only go for less than 100km for RM8.
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jaylim94	Mar 6 2014, 11:59 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #74
On my way Senior Member 522 posts Joined: Sep 2012 From: Selangor	QUOTE(alexei @ Mar 6 2014, 11:53 PM) We talked about this in V17, and many times before. I think the numbers are like RM8 for 140km like that. In theory, this is a 40 km per liter bike, so at RM8, it should be able to go 160km. I am sure it can do better if tuned for better fuel efficiency. I won't be surprised if it can do 200km. 125z I'm not sure, but as many 2 strokes, it can vary a lot. A poorly tuned one would only go for less than 100km for RM8. I see, currently I had 125ZR which is my dad bike, but he less use d. But i think my bike RM10 can only go around 120km. I'm not so good in bike also. What kind of sign consider a perfect tuned?
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crappy123	Mar 7 2014, 01:56 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #75
New Member Newbie 1 posts Joined: Jul 2011	mod the 125z, lc for daily use.
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NoobboyZzZ	Mar 7 2014, 02:03 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #76
Casual Junior Member 317 posts Joined: Apr 2010 From: cheras	btw proven that lc5s key locker is quite anti thieft get broken up the rock but the key hole jamed so the theif cant open it .. and the handle lock also cant open , but bengkok quite badly.. damage = road tax get curi , toolset inside lc need redo roadtax sight, just lucky that bike dint gone off
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TSalexei	Mar 7 2014, 11:37 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #77
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(jaylim94 @ Mar 6 2014, 11:59 PM) I see, currently I had 125ZR which is my dad bike, but he less use d. But i think my bike RM10 can only go around 120km. I'm not so good in bike also. What kind of sign consider a perfect tuned? Check the plug tip, should be slightly grey ash, and the ground electrode is oil free. Once bike warmed up, throttle response is good and not too much smoke. Exhaust sound is snappy, and not sluggish. QUOTE(NoobboyZzZ @ Mar 7 2014, 02:03 AM) btw proven that lc5s key locker is quite anti thieft get broken up the rock but the key hole jamed so the theif cant open it .. and the handle lock also cant open , but bengkok quite badly.. damage = road tax get curi , toolset inside lc need redo roadtax sight, just lucky that bike dint gone off Sorry to hear that. Roadtax also want to steal? Must be desperate. Now better change to new set of ori key lock. You got put disc lock, right?
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wady89	Mar 7 2014, 12:05 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #78
New Member Newbie 3 posts Joined: Feb 2012	QUOTE(alexei @ Mar 6 2014, 11:46 PM) Air filter can use UNI, or K&N. Not sure how much. Got other high flow ones. Brake pads got a lot of brand, Elig, Ferodo are some I know. Making sure the pads and disc do not kena oil is the key. Engine oil can be RM20-50+. Check page one for recommended bike EO. Fork oil must make sure both side balance. You can use cap ayam RM3, to Motul. Monoshock Kayaba is pretty good. Spark plug NGK G-power RM12. Other like Iridium would be expensive around RM50. NGK plug cable about RM30, red color. These mods above is to let your bike use better parts, and may require some minor setting adjustments such as pilot screw with the installation of high flow air filters. You can easily spend up to RM300~400, and do not get huge improvements. Stage 2 will really burn your pocket, and that I have no experience. Need to ask owners like serigala, thianz, crappy123. The air filter which one better? go for high flow or remove it? if remove it, replace with what? this minor modi that i read from past version of this group, which one is good? i`m in confius here ONE performance: 1) 57mm block and piston 2) remove air filter (free) 3) 28mm keihin PE carb 4) extra 180 bucks for NOB1 SSS if you can get it from chongkiatz ~RM450 (exclude pipe) handling: 1) add front fork stabilizer 2) change to bigger rear tyre (90/80) ~RM160 TWO get a racing CDI , change to clutch plate UMA , add carrier bush faito at clutch shoes , nob1 SSS exhaust......can fix ur needed , no need to change any engine part such as block , rod cam =D CDI = RM300 UMA clutch = RM70~80 , labour around RM20 carrier bush = RM10 , labour RM10 nob1 sss exhaust = RM180 THREE 1) use mild camshaft. Recommend to use the custom camshaft that I make if you plan to use stock engine. 2) bigger valve head (21 IN, 19 OUT) 3) port and polish cylinder head 4) stiffer valvespring 5) Racing CDI 6) 28mm carburetor 7) Bigger exhaust manifold 8) remove air filter The predicted result is, you are able to achieve maximum horsepower from 9000 - 10000rpm. Power would drop starting from 10krpm, but engine still can rev up to 11krpm. Just a rough estimation. This way, you can almost preserve the low-mid rpm torque. And I can guarantee, with the setup above, you can easily ta pau FZ150i This post has been edited by wady89: Mar 7 2014, 12:21 PM
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crappy123	Mar 7 2014, 02:49 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #79
New Member Newbie 1 posts Joined: Jul 2011	nob1 less power. use ahm m1 or yy pang. if buy second hand just change fiber. sound very power.
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TSalexei	Mar 7 2014, 02:55 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #80
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(wady89 @ Mar 7 2014, 12:05 PM) The air filter which one better? go for high flow or remove it? if remove it, replace with what? this minor modi that i read from past version of this group, which one is good? i`m in confius here It depends what you want. You asked for minor mod...
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wady89	Mar 7 2014, 03:32 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #81
New Member Newbie 3 posts Joined: Feb 2012	QUOTE(crappy123 @ Mar 7 2014, 02:49 PM) nob1 less power. use ahm m1 or yy pang. if buy second hand just change fiber. sound very power. so your suggestion for minor modi mr.crappy123?
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wady89	Mar 7 2014, 03:33 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #82
New Member Newbie 3 posts Joined: Feb 2012	QUOTE(alexei @ Mar 7 2014, 02:55 PM) It depends what you want. You asked for minor mod... i`m confius xD, maybe little bit understanding , sry i just new person want to learn how to modified
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TSalexei	Mar 7 2014, 04:34 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #83
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(wady89 @ Mar 7 2014, 03:33 PM) i`m confius xD, maybe little bit understanding , sry i just new person want to learn how to modified Ride your bike for a while, then figure out what you want to improve, then do it.
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jern25	Mar 7 2014, 05:09 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #84
Enthusiast Senior Member 827 posts Joined: Dec 2011	i noticed, when i ride my new lc, when the speed reaching to 80kmph, there will be a vibration on the footrest. if i slow it down below 80kmph, the vibration is gone.what is the possible cause of this? mileage is only 7++km.
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MiztaLegendary	Mar 7 2014, 09:29 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #85
Getting Started Junior Member 84 posts Joined: Aug 2012	[QUOTE][quote=alexei,Mar 6 2014, 11:53 PM] Looking forward to your membership here.[/QUOTE] Yes man. Im waiting for my bike also. Nd to wait a week to gt tat particular color. The color name is silver3 as in yamaha website. Just tat i noticed new lc es color not so nice compared to 4 speed lc. Possible to swap the coverset of es with ss? This post has been edited by MiztaLegendary: Mar 7 2014, 09:29 PM
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pedobear1992	Mar 8 2014, 12:58 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #86
New Member Junior Member 23 posts Joined: Nov 2010	hi guys , just naw i kissed LDP road in front of paradigm , so the results now my handle no straight with the headlamp. and shaky tooo .... how much roughly will cost to repair it. sorry im a newbie
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crappy123	Mar 8 2014, 01:29 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #87
New Member Newbie 1 posts Joined: Jul 2011	QUOTE(wady89 @ Mar 7 2014, 03:32 PM) so your suggestion for minor modi mr.crappy123? if got money and spare bike. straight modi 62mm with 19-22 valves jack 4mm pin nsr carb. sure satisfied. can ride daily also no problem but makan petrol. depending on how you mechanic setting also.
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zildj	Mar 8 2014, 10:09 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #88
Getting Started Junior Member 244 posts Joined: Jul 2005	just ordered my new LC no clutch for RM6610, newbie here.. few general question: 1. hard break in or soft break in? which better? 2. plan to install radiator cover to protect it, any recomendation where to get good one? 3. what is the best price per performance ratio for EO? thanks in advance..
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TSalexei	Mar 8 2014, 11:50 PM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #89
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(zildj @ Mar 8 2014, 10:09 PM) just ordered my new LC no clutch for RM6610, newbie here.. few general question: 1. hard break in or soft break in? which better? 2. plan to install radiator cover to protect it, any recomendation where to get good one? 3. what is the best price per performance ratio for EO? thanks in advance.. 1. Some say Diasil no need to break in. 2. Best to DIY using wire mesh, or kasa dawai. Those sold outside just plain rangka that doesn't do well protecting the radiator. 3. Most likely is HDEO.
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TSalexei	Mar 8 2014, 11:53 PM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #90
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(pedobear1992 @ Mar 8 2014, 12:58 AM) hi guys , just naw i kissed LDP road in front of paradigm , so the results now my handle no straight with the headlamp. and shaky tooo .... how much roughly will cost to repair it. sorry im a newbie First you'll need to figure out how much damage. Can be up to RM300 to fix everything. Some possibilities: Steering clamp, steering bar, fork, rim, brake disc, bike frame...
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TSalexei	Mar 8 2014, 11:55 PM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #91
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(jern25 @ Mar 7 2014, 05:09 PM) i noticed, when i ride my new lc, when the speed reaching to 80kmph, there will be a vibration on the footrest. if i slow it down below 80kmph, the vibration is gone.what is the possible cause of this? mileage is only 7++km. Is this your first bike? Is the vibration serious, or minor? Serious vibration means your feet will be vibrated and slide off the footrest. Minor means, you can barely feel it just through the tapak kasut, but that's all...
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zildj	Mar 9 2014, 03:13 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #92
Getting Started Junior Member 244 posts Joined: Jul 2005	QUOTE(alexei @ Mar 8 2014, 11:50 PM) 1. Some say Diasil no need to break in. 2. Best to DIY using wire mesh, or kasa dawai. Those sold outside just plain rangka that doesn't do well protecting the radiator. 3. Most likely is HDEO. thanks! 1. btw some say which mean better not right? 3. what brand of HDEO you recommend? thanks
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TSalexei	Mar 9 2014, 03:52 PM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #93
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(zildj @ Mar 9 2014, 03:13 PM) thanks! 1. btw some say which mean better not right? 3. what brand of HDEO you recommend? thanks You can find it in page 1 tips section on EO. There are a few, from mineral to fully synthetic. I am using R3X, the cheapest.
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wady89	Mar 9 2014, 10:17 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #94
New Member Newbie 3 posts Joined: Feb 2012	QUOTE(crappy123 @ Mar 8 2014, 01:29 AM) if got money and spare bike. straight modi 62mm with 19-22 valves jack 4mm pin nsr carb. sure satisfied. can ride daily also no problem but makan petrol. depending on how you mechanic setting also. aiseh, petrol now expensive lor for minor modi?
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NoobboyZzZ	Mar 10 2014, 05:18 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #95
Casual Junior Member 317 posts Joined: Apr 2010 From: cheras	QUOTE(alexei @ Mar 7 2014, 11:37 AM) Check the plug tip, should be slightly grey ash, and the ground electrode is oil free. Once bike warmed up, throttle response is good and not too much smoke. Exhaust sound is snappy, and not sluggish. Sorry to hear that. Roadtax also want to steal? Must be desperate. Now better change to new set of ori key lock. You got put disc lock, right? lol no lock , just the ori lock , broken quite badly .. now using tranfer my lagenda lock to lc ... to use first jus replace my roadtax quite a hassle... need go jpj and waited for 5 hour
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NoobboyZzZ	Mar 10 2014, 05:20 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #96
Casual Junior Member 317 posts Joined: Apr 2010 From: cheras	QUOTE(zildj @ Mar 8 2014, 10:09 PM) just ordered my new LC no clutch for RM6610, newbie here.. few general question: 1. hard break in or soft break in? which better? 2. plan to install radiator cover to protect it, any recomendation where to get good one? 3. what is the best price per performance ratio for EO? thanks in advance.. in factory the bike already runed - in if i aint wrong btw diasil not really needed to break in just drive it as normal dun simply rem it to max
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crappy123	Mar 10 2014, 07:14 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #97
New Member Newbie 1 posts Joined: Jul 2011	QUOTE(wady89 @ Mar 9 2014, 10:17 PM) aiseh, petrol now expensive lor for minor modi? minor modi can also, in case u not satisfied. jack 4mm.hahah
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Rudd	Mar 10 2014, 10:55 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #98
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 4,043 posts Joined: Jul 2010	QUOTE(serigala @ Feb 19 2014, 01:16 AM) mine 140km if ride 100-120km/h GPS speed 62MM bore with 30mm carb, Leo-vince carbon QUOTE(alexei @ Feb 19 2014, 10:40 AM) Fuel consumption, one of my favorite topic: RGV @ 90-100kmh GPS speed, 110-120kmh meter. Fill tank: 4.5 liter Highway: 260~280km per tank City: 180~200km per tank Check my fuelly stats here: http://www.fuelly.com/driver/alexei/rgv-120 mine can only ride 80km with fuel tank. melaka to shah alam. i need to double fuel tank. habis minyak when i reached RnR is there something wrong with my moto? stock lc v2
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TSalexei	Mar 11 2014, 12:42 AM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #99
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(Rudd @ Mar 10 2014, 10:55 PM) mine can only ride 80km with fuel tank. melaka to shah alam. i need to double fuel tank. habis minyak when i reached RnR is there something wrong with my moto? stock lc v2 that's bad... my RGV did 280km with 4.8liter full tank on highway. How fast were you riding at?
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Rudd	Mar 11 2014, 12:59 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #100
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 4,043 posts Joined: Jul 2010	QUOTE(alexei @ Mar 11 2014, 12:42 AM) that's bad... my RGV did 280km with 4.8liter full tank on highway. How fast were you riding at? max at 120kmph. moto meter.
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jern25	Mar 11 2014, 09:29 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #101
Enthusiast Senior Member 827 posts Joined: Dec 2011	QUOTE(alexei @ Mar 8 2014, 11:55 PM) Is this your first bike? Is the vibration serious, or minor? Serious vibration means your feet will be vibrated and slide off the footrest. Minor means, you can barely feel it just through the tapak kasut, but that's all... its my 3rd bike already. its only minor bos.but my previous ex5 didnt experience this before.haha.
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XeLLisCompleX	Mar 11 2014, 09:35 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #102
Getting Started Junior Member 76 posts Joined: Oct 2008	anyone can recommend which shop sell cash normal LC for the lowest price? Planning to get one end of this month. Btw im staying @ Saujana Utama Sg. Buloh area. Thanks!
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wady89	Mar 11 2014, 03:41 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #103
New Member Newbie 3 posts Joined: Feb 2012	QUOTE(Rudd @ Mar 11 2014, 12:59 AM) max at 120kmph. moto meter. i have the same problem too, how to fix?
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Rudd	Mar 11 2014, 03:55 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #104
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 4,043 posts Joined: Jul 2010	QUOTE(wady89 @ Mar 11 2014, 03:41 PM) i have the same problem too, how to fix? i also dunno. deswai i ask here.
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TSalexei	Mar 11 2014, 09:40 PM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #105
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(wady89 @ Mar 11 2014, 03:41 PM) i have the same problem too, how to fix? QUOTE(Rudd @ Mar 11 2014, 03:55 PM) i also dunno. deswai i ask here. Stock condition mia LC can be like that, especially if the carburator have never been serviced. Check out here for a list of users who tracks their bike fuel consumption : https://www.fuelly.com/motorcycle/yamaha/lc135 As you can see, average users are getting 44-46 km per liter, so at full tank of 4 liter, that's about what you can hope to achieve. Normally, I'm guessing, you would fill about RM7, which is 3.33 liter, multiply by 45km per liter, you get 150km per tank under normal riding condition. This post has been edited by alexei: Mar 12 2014, 03:15 PM
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zildj	Mar 12 2014, 11:29 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #106
Getting Started Junior Member 244 posts Joined: Jul 2005	QUOTE(XeLLisCompleX @ Mar 11 2014, 09:35 AM) anyone can recommend which shop sell cash normal LC for the lowest price? Planning to get one end of this month. Btw im staying @ Saujana Utama Sg. Buloh area. Thanks! if you dont mind jauh, u can go kapar motors, they sell normal LC 2014 make for rm6580.00 cash with 1st party comprehensive of rm5000 coverage, for 6k coverage add rm30.. they give free rm60 valued helmets, basket, disk lock and raincoat too.. The cheapest ive found after surveying around klang valley..
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wady89	Mar 12 2014, 11:35 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #107
New Member Newbie 3 posts Joined: Feb 2012	QUOTE(alexei @ Mar 11 2014, 09:40 PM) Stock condition mia LC can be like that, especially if the carburator have never been serviced. Check out here for a list of users who tracks their bike fuel consumption : https://www.fuelly.com/motorcycle/yamaha/lc135 As you can see, average users are getting 44-46 km per liter, so at full tank of 4 liter, that's about what you can hope to achieve. Normally, I'm guessing, you would fill about RM7, which is 3.33 liter, multiply by 45km per liter, you get 150km per tank under normal riding condition. After you service the carb, then track your mileage again. The main tip to save petrol is all in the throttle control: - Do not rev your bike at traffic light. Especially for VM carbs (mikuni round slide, all version except ES v2) because there is accelerator pump. - Check out this video, it shows how the accelerator pump injects petrol stream into the carb as the throttle is pulled. - Go easy on the throttle when twisting. The slower you twist it, the lesser the accelerator pump injects petrol. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « zsqMAMFle0k Other than that, you can try the tips below: Pilot jet screw: - For LC, this is a pilot fuel screw, so, the more turn out, the richer the pilot fuel circuit is. - During carb setting, if it takes less than 1 5/8 turn to get a smooth idle for pilot screw, change to a smaller pilot jet. - The ideal pilot jet and screw setting is, at around 1 5/8 turn of pilot screw, the bike will need a choke to start when cold, but once warmed up, off idle throttle response is good. The above is step one, to improve your carb setting... if you can do it, let me know, then I will share some more. It will take you a few days to figure out if the setting is right, because you need to let the bike sit cold overnight, and try to start it the next morning. nice solution, may try it this evening... what should i tell pomen if i wanted to adjust the pilot jet? or can i make it myself?
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TSalexei	Mar 12 2014, 02:11 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #108
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(wady89 @ Mar 12 2014, 11:35 AM) nice solution, may try it this evening... what should i tell pomen if i wanted to adjust the pilot jet? or can i make it myself? you can try talk to pomen to use leaner pilot jet.
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jern25	Mar 13 2014, 11:54 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #109
Enthusiast Senior Member 827 posts Joined: Dec 2011	did anyone ever travel long distance with std LC? can LC manage to travel from KL to Kuantan?
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TSalexei	Mar 13 2014, 02:02 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #110
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(jern25 @ Mar 13 2014, 11:54 AM) did anyone ever travel long distance with std LC? can LC manage to travel from KL to Kuantan? There's been a lot of LC convoys. KL - Kuantan you can try ask are_keem, who used to go KT, IINM.
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XeLLisCompleX	Mar 13 2014, 03:57 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #111
Getting Started Junior Member 76 posts Joined: Oct 2008	QUOTE(zildj @ Mar 12 2014, 11:29 AM) if you dont mind jauh, u can go kapar motors, they sell normal LC 2014 make for rm6580.00 cash with 1st party comprehensive of rm5000 coverage, for 6k coverage add rm30.. they give free rm60 valued helmets, basket, disk lock and raincoat too.. The cheapest ive found after surveying around klang valley.. You have a full address of the shop bro? Thinking of getting the bike really soon, next week maybe, I can go to the shop to deal first. and yes that price is the cheapest I heard so far for cash. Thanks for sharing.
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zildj	Mar 13 2014, 08:23 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #112
Getting Started Junior Member 244 posts Joined: Jul 2005	QUOTE(XeLLisCompleX @ Mar 13 2014, 03:57 PM) You have a full address of the shop bro? Thinking of getting the bike really soon, next week maybe, I can go to the shop to deal first. and yes that price is the cheapest I heard so far for cash. Thanks for sharing. https://maps.google.com.my/maps?q=Kapar+Mot...=m&z=17&iwloc=A
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serigala	Mar 13 2014, 10:31 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #113
CurSedWolf Senior Member 1,439 posts Joined: Jan 2008 From: Dungeons of the Wolves	QUOTE(jern25 @ Mar 13 2014, 11:54 AM) did anyone ever travel long distance with std LC? can LC manage to travel from KL to Kuantan? sure, no prob for a standard ones.. KL kuantan is not that far..
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Kwar	Mar 14 2014, 09:22 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #114
Getting Started Junior Member 65 posts Joined: Apr 2013	QUOTE(jern25 @ Mar 13 2014, 11:54 AM) did anyone ever travel long distance with std LC? can LC manage to travel from KL to Kuantan? Kl kuantan i not sure. But i have done melaka to selangor twice. Average around 3 hours+ ride cover 250km. Refill petrol 15 ringgit. Average speed 110 btw. This post has been edited by Kwar: Mar 14 2014, 09:24 PM
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Daneillum	Mar 15 2014, 08:29 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #115
New Member Newbie 0 posts Joined: Mar 2014	QUOTE(zildj @ Mar 8 2014, 10:09 PM) just ordered my new LC no clutch for RM6610, newbie here.. few general question: 1. hard break in or soft break in? which better? 2. plan to install radiator cover to protect it, any recomendation where to get good one? 3. what is the best price per performance ratio for EO? thanks in advance.. 1. Don't use 4th gear if u riding slow. 2. Don't install anything cos it's not recommended By yamaha - air circulation bad if install radiator cover. 3. 1st 300km I've changed my EO. Actually, is 500km. I'm using mineral EO yamahalube. 1000km changed EO. 2000km I start using Semi synthetic. Then, every 2000 change EO.
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NewGUY	Mar 17 2014, 01:42 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #116
On my way Junior Member 515 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Currently in Selangor	mine fuelly LC 145 and LC 177 (not much data yet) bike still in bengkel, due to pomen 2 accident, 1 head crack and 1 fall down and pomen boss already buy ticket holiday so LC 177 still not complete maybe next week 5 week liao... Bro Alexei, is LC chasis can autofoam, this some crazy fren tot of how to strengthen LC chassis... of cos weight increase...
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TSalexei	Mar 17 2014, 10:45 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #117
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(NewGUY @ Mar 17 2014, 01:42 AM) Bro Alexei, is LC chasis can autofoam, this some crazy fren tot of how to strengthen LC chassis... of cos weight increase... Hi bro, Autofoam will increase the stiffness of chassis, not the strength, and there are pros and cons to that. Remember, the autofoam may not be fully removed later on. Short answer is, I don't know for sure what happens. Some of the possibilities includes: - Chassis stiffness increase, not the strength. - Engine and road vibration will be more apparent to the rider. - Uneven application of the foam may cause imbalance to the bike. - Increased stiffness may increase the rate of joint metal fatigue. Meaning, the weaker part of the chassis will start to show signs of crack or break faster. - Avoid internal rusting. Perhaps I would give it a try, on the main underbone.
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crappy123	Mar 17 2014, 11:45 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #118
New Member Newbie 1 posts Joined: Jul 2011	original chasis not good enough?
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jern25	Mar 19 2014, 10:56 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #119
Enthusiast Senior Member 827 posts Joined: Dec 2011	just done my 1st 1000km service yesterday. the mechanic there recommend me NASA 10w-40. since he also use lc, then i give it a try this time. has any of us ever tried that EO before? btw, the mechanic also told me that the oil filter no need to change. just change it during 3rd service. is it normal?
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Kwar	Mar 21 2014, 12:20 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #120
Getting Started Junior Member 65 posts Joined: Apr 2013	Hey guys. Fz block if from indonesia good quality? Found this guy selling block+cam+spring for 400 only.
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Daneillum	Mar 21 2014, 09:18 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #121
New Member Newbie 0 posts Joined: Mar 2014	QUOTE(jern25 @ Mar 19 2014, 10:56 AM) just done my 1st 1000km service yesterday. the mechanic there recommend me NASA 10w-40. since he also use lc, then i give it a try this time. has any of us ever tried that EO before? btw, the mechanic also told me that the oil filter no need to change. just change it during 3rd service. is it normal? Recommended replace every 2 times EO CHANGED
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MiztaLegendary	Mar 21 2014, 09:57 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #122
Getting Started Junior Member 84 posts Joined: Aug 2012	Goin to tke my bike today
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jern25	Mar 21 2014, 11:52 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #123
Enthusiast Senior Member 827 posts Joined: Dec 2011	QUOTE(MiztaLegendary @ Mar 21 2014, 09:57 AM) Goin to tke my bike today congrats bro
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jern25	Mar 21 2014, 04:54 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #124
Enthusiast Senior Member 827 posts Joined: Dec 2011	where can i get this kind of contre box? and how much is the price estimatedly? This post has been edited by jern25: Mar 21 2014, 04:57 PM
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freakyNeo	Mar 21 2014, 06:14 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #125
New Member Newbie 1 posts Joined: Sep 2012 From: Kuala Lumpur	QUOTE(jern25 @ Mar 21 2014, 05:54 PM) where can i get this kind of contre box? and how much is the price estimatedly? Kappa Box, around RM80. NKS sentul got one.
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freakyNeo	Mar 21 2014, 06:22 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #126
New Member Newbie 1 posts Joined: Sep 2012 From: Kuala Lumpur	Hi guys. I'm new here. Just want to ask anyone familiar with any bike shop that I can get an Original Coverset V2 for LC with customs stripe in Klang area? Thank you.
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MiztaLegendary	Mar 21 2014, 09:15 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #127
Getting Started Junior Member 84 posts Joined: Aug 2012	New user reporting in. 135LC ES V2 SilverBlue 21/3/2014 My bike's azz...
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punkLOL	Mar 22 2014, 03:53 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #128
Getting Started Junior Member 59 posts Joined: Nov 2011	hi guys, anyone here modified yamaha lc with ABS?
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serigala	Mar 23 2014, 01:37 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #129
CurSedWolf Senior Member 1,439 posts Joined: Jan 2008 From: Dungeons of the Wolves	QUOTE(punkLOL @ Mar 22 2014, 03:53 PM) hi guys, anyone here modified yamaha lc with ABS? which ABS? the fake pseudo ABS or the real-deal motorized ABS?
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TSalexei	Mar 23 2014, 02:49 PM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #130
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(MiztaLegendary @ Mar 21 2014, 09:15 PM) New user reporting in. 135LC ES V2 SilverBlue 21/3/2014 Added. Welcome... I guess you're from Penang, then?
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wady89	Mar 24 2014, 03:47 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #131
New Member Newbie 3 posts Joined: Feb 2012	Guys, where can i find this part? some fool steal it
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freakyNeo	Mar 24 2014, 05:52 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #132
New Member Newbie 1 posts Joined: Sep 2012 From: Kuala Lumpur	Hi Guys, just want to ask anyone here know what kind of Sport Rim and Sprocket this bike using? Thanks.
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serigala	Mar 24 2014, 08:49 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #133
CurSedWolf Senior Member 1,439 posts Joined: Jan 2008 From: Dungeons of the Wolves	QUOTE(freakyNeo @ Mar 24 2014, 05:52 PM) Hi Guys, just want to ask anyone here know what kind of Sport Rim and Sprocket this bike using? Thanks. Rim racing boy 522 picture » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « sprocket Sinnob picture » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
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MiztaLegendary	Mar 25 2014, 01:44 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #134
Getting Started Junior Member 84 posts Joined: Aug 2012	QUOTE(alexei @ Mar 23 2014, 02:49 PM) Added. Welcome... I guess you're from Penang, then? Yes bro. Im on mainland. U? Now only my bike clocked 45km Any modification recommendation on new bike?
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Are_keem	Mar 25 2014, 11:19 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #135
I'm riders, not rempit Senior Member 2,123 posts Joined: Jul 2006 From: where am I suppose to be?	Long time didn't post here, and somehow I haven't leave any mark in this new version So time for throwback, last picture of my ride before it's sold
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serigala	Mar 26 2014, 05:59 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #136
CurSedWolf Senior Member 1,439 posts Joined: Jan 2008 From: Dungeons of the Wolves	QUOTE(Are_keem @ Mar 25 2014, 11:19 PM) Long time didn't post here, and somehow I haven't leave any mark in this new version So time for throwback, last picture of my ride before it's sold rindu le tew..
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nerp	Mar 26 2014, 01:00 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #137
Getting Started Junior Member 58 posts Joined: Jun 2012	hello bros..wanna ask.. for dis modi, blok ikk 62, hi cam cms, cj ipoh mb, sprocket 15-35 sss, carb standard.. what is the best size for mj n pj? tq
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MiztaLegendary	Mar 26 2014, 04:11 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #138
Getting Started Junior Member 84 posts Joined: Aug 2012	QUOTE(freakyNeo @ Mar 21 2014, 06:14 PM) Kappa Box, around RM80. NKS sentul got one. Im finding for it too. Its Kappa K10N i guess. Any shops in penang have this?
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TSalexei	Mar 26 2014, 10:41 PM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #139
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(Are_keem @ Mar 25 2014, 11:19 PM) Long time didn't post here, and somehow I haven't leave any mark in this new version So time for throwback, last picture of my ride before it's sold Added to front page... What do you ride now? Still the same bike?
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TSalexei	Mar 26 2014, 10:42 PM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #140
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(MiztaLegendary @ Mar 25 2014, 01:44 PM) Yes bro. Im on mainland. U? Now only my bike clocked 45km Any modification recommendation on new bike? Islander... Please checkout page 1, if any specific topic you're interested in. For new bike, nothing much, except accessories I guess...
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Are_keem	Mar 27 2014, 11:09 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #141
I'm riders, not rempit Senior Member 2,123 posts Joined: Jul 2006 From: where am I suppose to be?	QUOTE(alexei @ Mar 26 2014, 10:41 PM) Added to front page... What do you ride now? Still the same bike? Thanks bro Still stick with Lagenda 115Z, if upgrade maybe in next 2-3 years. Aiming for XJ6/CBR650 after settle down
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TSalexei	Mar 27 2014, 11:47 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #142
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(Are_keem @ Mar 27 2014, 11:09 AM) Thanks bro Still stick with Lagenda 115Z, if upgrade maybe in next 2-3 years. Aiming for XJ6/CBR650 after settle down IMO, 600cc won't be enough, still. Do consider one of those triples... Add 250cc for 33% more peak torque and flatter response... am referring to FZ-09. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
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jern25	Mar 28 2014, 11:02 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #143
Enthusiast Senior Member 827 posts Joined: Dec 2011	i just ask a shop in bangsar duro 918, 90/80. they quote me rm125 for it. damn expensive.
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freakyNeo	Mar 28 2014, 11:42 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #144
New Member Newbie 1 posts Joined: Sep 2012 From: Kuala Lumpur	QUOTE(serigala @ Mar 24 2014, 09:49 PM) Rim racing boy 522 picture » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « sprocket Sinnob picture » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Thanks bro.
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freakyNeo	Mar 28 2014, 12:20 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #145
New Member Newbie 1 posts Joined: Sep 2012 From: Kuala Lumpur	Newbie reporting in. LC135 SS year 2014; 2 months old but coverset already change to v2. Thank you
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MiztaLegendary	Mar 29 2014, 05:04 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #146
Getting Started Junior Member 84 posts Joined: Aug 2012	QUOTE(freakyNeo @ Mar 28 2014, 12:20 PM) Newbie reporting in. LC135 SS year 2014; 2 months old but coverset already change to v2. Thank you How much is the cover set bro? Im planning to chg mine too.
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freakyNeo	Mar 30 2014, 05:13 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #147
New Member Newbie 1 posts Joined: Sep 2012 From: Kuala Lumpur	QUOTE(MiztaLegendary @ Mar 29 2014, 06:04 PM) How much is the cover set bro? Im planning to chg mine too. Coverset around rm185, buy from dealer not at bikeshop. If you buy at bikeshop they already markup atleast rm210. Stripe sticker rm85 original. Signal lamp from 2014 change to v2 eagle eye rm100 and front inner rm38.
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XeLLisCompleX	Mar 31 2014, 04:23 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #148
Getting Started Junior Member 76 posts Joined: Oct 2008	Im sure this topic already been raised up before but can I know what is the best/ secured lock that can be used for LC?
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TSalexei	Mar 31 2014, 10:19 PM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #149
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(freakyNeo @ Mar 28 2014, 12:20 PM) Newbie reporting in. LC135 SS year 2014; 2 months old but coverset already change to v2. Thank you welcome... added to namelist and bikelist.
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TSalexei	Mar 31 2014, 10:44 PM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #150
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(XeLLisCompleX @ Mar 31 2014, 04:23 PM) Im sure this topic already been raised up before but can I know what is the best/ secured lock that can be used for LC? Nobody knows for sure, Xena 2 with alarm used to be highly recommended. To me, a decent chain with padlock, locking up both the wheels to the fork and swingarm is the best. Just bear in mind, a lock can only be deterrent to a thief. Use some common sense how to apply the lock. Here are some of the things they could do to mess with your bike: - Rim and fork lock - Low. Too many weak link, so IMO it is not secure. - Disc lock - Moderate. Thief can remove your rim, open the disc, and put back the rim and ride off. Cheap locks are not stainless mechanism, so after a while, the key mechanism will jam inside and cannot be opened. - Standard steering lock with magnet cover - Moderate. Can be dismantled, or break open by force. In some cases, the steering head will loosen first before the lock is broken. So, in case your bike kena langgar, check the steering lock for cracks and have it replaced. - Rear sprocket padlock or disc lock - More secure than putting the disc lock at front disc, but can be messy due to chain oil. - Long chain with padlock securing the bike to a pillar or something - Must have good padlock. More secure, but troublesome and can scratch coverset. - Bicycle lock - Cheap one can open with hammer. - Immobilizer - some add on electronics to guard your bike from unwanted ignition. Can simply DIY and hidden switch to the battery terminal or the CDI. Make sure wiring is installed correctly. No alarm is better, otherwise the thief will know your bike got alarm, and prepare for it. For a good padlock, prepare to spend RM50+ each. If the padlock is RM50 for 2 or 3, it is for hiasan, and will not stand a chance.
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serigala	Mar 31 2014, 11:42 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #151
CurSedWolf Senior Member 1,439 posts Joined: Jan 2008 From: Dungeons of the Wolves	QUOTE(alexei @ Mar 31 2014, 10:44 PM) Nobody knows for sure, Xena 2 with alarm used to be highly recommended. To me, a decent chain with padlock, locking up both the wheels to the fork and swingarm is the best. Just bear in mind, a lock can only be deterrent to a thief. Use some common sense how to apply the lock. Here are some of the things they could do to mess with your bike: - Rim and fork lock - Low. Too many weak link, so IMO it is not secure. - Disc lock - Moderate. Thief can remove your rim, open the disc, and put back the rim and ride off. Cheap locks are not stainless mechanism, so after a while, the key mechanism will jam inside and cannot be opened. - Standard steering lock with magnet cover - Moderate. Can be dismantled, or break open by force. In some cases, the steering head will loosen first before the lock is broken. So, in case your bike kena langgar, check the steering lock for cracks and have it replaced. - Rear sprocket padlock or disc lock - More secure than putting the disc lock at front disc, but can be messy due to chain oil. - Long chain with padlock securing the bike to a pillar or something - Must have good padlock. More secure, but troublesome and can scratch coverset. - Bicycle lock - Cheap one can open with hammer. - Immobilizer - some add on electronics to guard your bike from unwanted ignition. Can simply DIY and hidden switch to the battery terminal or the CDI. Make sure wiring is installed correctly. No alarm is better, otherwise the thief will know your bike got alarm, and prepare for it. For a good padlock, prepare to spend RM50+ each. If the padlock is RM50 for 2 or 3, it is for hiasan, and will not stand a chance. What about double stand lock?
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TSalexei	Apr 1 2014, 09:59 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #152
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(serigala @ Mar 31 2014, 11:42 PM) What about double stand lock? I wanted to add that, but wasn't sure if LC has that. Does it? IMO, I would say, it will be as good as the lock used. Double stand lock is troublesome to attach, since everytime you need to squat down to reach below the bike, but it is even more troublesome for a thief trying to break it. However, a thief can try to pry it open, but if the lock can withstand it, the lock ring would bend first. What you think, bro?
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XeLLisCompleX	Apr 1 2014, 10:06 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #153
Getting Started Junior Member 76 posts Joined: Oct 2008	QUOTE(alexei @ Mar 31 2014, 10:44 PM) Nobody knows for sure, Xena 2 with alarm used to be highly recommended. To me, a decent chain with padlock, locking up both the wheels to the fork and swingarm is the best. Just bear in mind, a lock can only be deterrent to a thief. Use some common sense how to apply the lock. Here are some of the things they could do to mess with your bike: - Rim and fork lock - Low. Too many weak link, so IMO it is not secure. - Disc lock - Moderate. Thief can remove your rim, open the disc, and put back the rim and ride off. Cheap locks are not stainless mechanism, so after a while, the key mechanism will jam inside and cannot be opened. - Standard steering lock with magnet cover - Moderate. Can be dismantled, or break open by force. In some cases, the steering head will loosen first before the lock is broken. So, in case your bike kena langgar, check the steering lock for cracks and have it replaced. - Rear sprocket padlock or disc lock - More secure than putting the disc lock at front disc, but can be messy due to chain oil. - Long chain with padlock securing the bike to a pillar or something - Must have good padlock. More secure, but troublesome and can scratch coverset. - Bicycle lock - Cheap one can open with hammer. - Immobilizer - some add on electronics to guard your bike from unwanted ignition. Can simply DIY and hidden switch to the battery terminal or the CDI. Make sure wiring is installed correctly. No alarm is better, otherwise the thief will know your bike got alarm, and prepare for it. For a good padlock, prepare to spend RM50+ each. If the padlock is RM50 for 2 or 3, it is for hiasan, and will not stand a chance. the immobilizer seems interesting, is it expensive?
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Rascal Stitch	Apr 1 2014, 11:09 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #154
New Member Junior Member 40 posts Joined: Apr 2010 From: Old Klang Road~	QUOTE(Are_keem @ Mar 26 2014, 12:19 AM) Long time didn't post here, and somehow I haven't leave any mark in this new version So time for throwback, last picture of my ride before it's sold wow,macam movie leave d 1 love~ QUOTE(serigala @ Mar 26 2014, 06:59 AM) rindu le tew..
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serigala	Apr 1 2014, 02:38 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #155
CurSedWolf Senior Member 1,439 posts Joined: Jan 2008 From: Dungeons of the Wolves	QUOTE(alexei @ Apr 1 2014, 09:59 AM) I wanted to add that, but wasn't sure if LC has that. Does it? IMO, I would say, it will be as good as the lock used. Double stand lock is troublesome to attach, since everytime you need to squat down to reach below the bike, but it is even more troublesome for a thief trying to break it. However, a thief can try to pry it open, but if the lock can withstand it, the lock ring would bend first. What you think, bro? it does.. and the steel is pretty much thick.. spend Rm50 for a good side padlock and it will be a good anti-theft device lock like this
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Are_keem	Apr 1 2014, 10:08 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #156
I'm riders, not rempit Senior Member 2,123 posts Joined: Jul 2006 From: where am I suppose to be?	QUOTE(alexei @ Apr 1 2014, 09:59 AM) I wanted to add that, but wasn't sure if LC has that. Does it? IMO, I would say, it will be as good as the lock used. Double stand lock is troublesome to attach, since everytime you need to squat down to reach below the bike, but it is even more troublesome for a thief trying to break it. However, a thief can try to pry it open, but if the lock can withstand it, the lock ring would bend first. What you think, bro? Only LC V1 has double stand lock, but not V2. Not sure why they remove it then I remembered last time when I left my bike at hostel during one week break, I did lock the double stand using those cheapo Globe brand lock. After coming back from holiday, I noticed that it seemed somebody tried to push/move my bike since the lock's ring is bent. So I would say double stand lock is quite reliable, plus using three circle brand lock also recommended
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TSalexei	Apr 1 2014, 10:33 PM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #157
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(Are_keem @ Apr 1 2014, 10:08 PM) Only LC V1 has double stand lock, but not V2. Not sure why they remove it then I remembered last time when I left my bike at hostel during one week break, I did lock the double stand using those cheapo Globe brand lock. After coming back from holiday, I noticed that it seemed somebody tried to push/move my bike since the lock's ring is bent. So I would say double stand lock is quite reliable, plus using three circle brand lock also recommended Good for you. And yeah, that's exactly how I imagined it.
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Kwar	Apr 2 2014, 12:41 AM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #158
Getting Started Junior Member 65 posts Joined: Apr 2013	Guys anyone have install the x1r digital meter on v2 b4? Need to know where to connect these two red and blue wires. Any idea?
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Erza Scarlet	Apr 3 2014, 12:20 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #159
Getting Started Junior Member 201 posts Joined: Jul 2008	Where can i get michelin tyre for 135lc?. Anyone know the estimate price for it?
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MiztaLegendary	Apr 3 2014, 02:52 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #160
Getting Started Junior Member 84 posts Joined: Aug 2012	Where to get the TPS connector?
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XeLLisCompleX	Apr 3 2014, 03:31 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #161
Getting Started Junior Member 76 posts Joined: Oct 2008	Anyone heard about using 'ubat gegat' to reduce oil consumption? Just put 1pcs inside tank when fill in fuel full tank. is it true?
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Are_keem	Apr 4 2014, 12:44 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #162
I'm riders, not rempit Senior Member 2,123 posts Joined: Jul 2006 From: where am I suppose to be?	QUOTE(XeLLisCompleX @ Apr 3 2014, 03:31 PM) Anyone heard about using 'ubat gegat' to reduce oil consumption? Just put 1pcs inside tank when fill in fuel full tank. is it true? Cheapo trick to increase the octane number (RON) of the fuel. Sorry not much time to elaborate on this, but you could google about naphthalene (substance that made up those 'ubat gegat' or mothballs), their effect on fuel's octane number and what RON number did with fuel consumption.
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jern25	Apr 4 2014, 04:59 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #163
Enthusiast Senior Member 827 posts Joined: Dec 2011	QUOTE(Are_keem @ Apr 4 2014, 12:44 PM) Cheapo trick to increase the octane number (RON) of the fuel. Sorry not much time to elaborate on this, but you could google about naphthalene (substance that made up those 'ubat gegat' or mothballs), their effect on fuel's octane number and what RON number did with fuel consumption. waaa...this is new.
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Erza Scarlet	Apr 4 2014, 08:32 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #164
Getting Started Junior Member 201 posts Joined: Jul 2008	Is there any bad side effect of using Iridium spark plug on standard 135LC engine and where i can get Michelin pilot sporty tyre in KL? This post has been edited by Erza Scarlet: Apr 4 2014, 08:32 PM
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TSalexei	Apr 4 2014, 11:37 PM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #165
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(jern25 @ Apr 4 2014, 04:59 PM) waaa...this is new. nope. some use acetone.
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Rascal Stitch	Apr 5 2014, 06:04 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #166
New Member Junior Member 40 posts Joined: Apr 2010 From: Old Klang Road~	QUOTE(Erza Scarlet @ Apr 4 2014, 09:32 PM) Is there any bad side effect of using Iridium spark plug on standard 135LC engine and where i can get Michelin pilot sporty tyre in KL? where r u staying 1st?? u dun mention ard from there so how to recommend u?
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crappy123	Apr 6 2014, 02:16 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #167
New Member Newbie 1 posts Joined: Jul 2011	QUOTE(Kwar @ Apr 2 2014, 12:41 AM) Guys anyone have install the x1r digital meter on v2 b4? Need to know where to connect these two red and blue wires. Any idea? no idea man, try go shop.
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XeLLisCompleX	Apr 7 2014, 10:27 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #168
Getting Started Junior Member 76 posts Joined: Oct 2008	QUOTE(Are_keem @ Apr 4 2014, 12:44 PM) Cheapo trick to increase the octane number (RON) of the fuel. Sorry not much time to elaborate on this, but you could google about naphthalene (substance that made up those 'ubat gegat' or mothballs), their effect on fuel's octane number and what RON number did with fuel consumption. Ic, will do the research.. haha
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Kwar	Apr 7 2014, 07:07 PM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #169
Getting Started Junior Member 65 posts Joined: Apr 2013	QUOTE(crappy123 @ Apr 6 2014, 02:16 AM) no idea man, try go shop. nvm got it haha, i send to shop, even they dunno how to install haha.. all blur blur
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TSalexei	Apr 8 2014, 09:58 PM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #170
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(Kwar @ Apr 7 2014, 07:07 PM) nvm got it haha, i send to shop, even they dunno how to install haha.. all blur blur Need to find the wiring diagram to figure out... Do you have pic of the item?
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Kwar	Apr 11 2014, 06:12 PM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #171
Getting Started Junior Member 65 posts Joined: Apr 2013	QUOTE(alexei @ Apr 8 2014, 09:58 PM) Need to find the wiring diagram to figure out... Do you have pic of the item? The manual didnt provide the wiring diagram. It only state that connect the blue to ignition and red to ignition coil. So far just donno where the ignition coil is now so the rpm feature still not available haha.
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TSalexei	Apr 13 2014, 08:12 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #172
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(Kwar @ Apr 11 2014, 06:12 PM) The manual didnt provide the wiring diagram. It only state that connect the blue to ignition and red to ignition coil. So far just donno where the ignition coil is now so the rpm feature still not available haha. Then you need to find the wiring diagram for LC and figure out the ignition coil wire.
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Kwar	Apr 14 2014, 05:29 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #173
Getting Started Junior Member 65 posts Joined: Apr 2013	QUOTE(alexei @ Apr 13 2014, 08:12 PM) Then you need to find the wiring diagram for LC and figure out the ignition coil wire. yep, been trying to do that, but dunno where my manual went haha, possibly in the manual .
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TSalexei	Apr 14 2014, 09:10 PM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #174
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(Kwar @ Apr 14 2014, 05:29 PM) yep, been trying to do that, but dunno where my manual went haha, possibly in the manual . You must've not tried uncle google. Here you go, look for wire #11: » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
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XeLLisCompleX	Apr 15 2014, 11:40 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #175
Getting Started Junior Member 76 posts Joined: Oct 2008	what is the cost to install rear dics brake to LC SS version?
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XeLLisCompleX	Apr 15 2014, 11:40 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #176
Getting Started Junior Member 76 posts Joined: Oct 2008	what is the cost to install rear dics brake to LC SS version?
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XeLLisCompleX	Apr 15 2014, 11:41 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #177
Getting Started Junior Member 76 posts Joined: Oct 2008	what is the cost to install rear dics brake to LC SS version?
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serigala	Apr 15 2014, 12:52 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #178
CurSedWolf Senior Member 1,439 posts Joined: Jan 2008 From: Dungeons of the Wolves	QUOTE(XeLLisCompleX @ Apr 15 2014, 11:41 AM) what is the cost to install rear dics brake to LC SS version? depend on what grade material u want to use.. starting from RM250 to 1500
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XeLLisCompleX	Apr 15 2014, 01:44 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #179
Getting Started Junior Member 76 posts Joined: Oct 2008	QUOTE(serigala @ Apr 15 2014, 12:52 PM) depend on what grade material u want to use.. starting from RM250 to 1500 how bout the original yamaha ES rear disc brake, got any shop selling outside? and how much?
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TSalexei	Apr 19 2014, 10:25 PM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #180
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(XeLLisCompleX @ Apr 15 2014, 01:44 PM) how bout the original yamaha ES rear disc brake, got any shop selling outside? and how much? You'll need to pay for some extra stuff, like footrest modification and labor charges. I'm guessing a ballpark of RM300~500. Parts you'll need: Rim, disc, brake pump, brake hose, reservoir, brake fluid, brake pads. Mods you'll need: Swing arm for caliper mount, footrest for brake pump, brake reservoir mount.
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ave666	Apr 20 2014, 05:40 PM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #181
Beginner Senior Member 1,515 posts Joined: Jul 2012 From: Here	New user here This post has been edited by ave666: Apr 20 2014, 05:55 PM Attached thumbnail(s)
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TSalexei	Apr 20 2014, 09:20 PM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #182
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(ave666 @ Apr 20 2014, 05:40 PM) New user here Added, and welcome. Which state are you from? Is it Kelantan? This post has been edited by alexei: Apr 20 2014, 09:21 PM
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ave666	Apr 21 2014, 11:41 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #183
Beginner Senior Member 1,515 posts Joined: Jul 2012 From: Here	QUOTE(alexei @ Apr 20 2014, 09:20 PM) Added, and welcome. Which state are you from? Is it Kelantan? Setapak
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XeLLisCompleX	Apr 21 2014, 12:20 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #184
Getting Started Junior Member 76 posts Joined: Oct 2008	QUOTE(alexei @ Apr 19 2014, 10:25 PM) You'll need to pay for some extra stuff, like footrest modification and labor charges. I'm guessing a ballpark of RM300~500. Parts you'll need: Rim, disc, brake pump, brake hose, reservoir, brake fluid, brake pads. Mods you'll need: Swing arm for caliper mount, footrest for brake pump, brake reservoir mount. thanks for the info. need to save money first then.. haha
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TSalexei	Apr 22 2014, 09:56 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #185
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(ave666 @ Apr 21 2014, 11:41 AM) Setapak Ok, thanks... I thought I saw the number plate starting with 'D'. Welcome to the club. Feel free to go through post #1 for some of the compiled learnings and trips, and ask any questions or seek better understanding. Disclaimer: I do not own an LC, but been long time with this forum crowd.
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ave666	Apr 22 2014, 11:15 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #186
Beginner Senior Member 1,515 posts Joined: Jul 2012 From: Here	B. Using old esthetic no
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boyadarat	Apr 26 2014, 12:10 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #187
Getting Started Junior Member 98 posts Joined: Sep 2011 From: KEDAH / PENANG	hey guys, im an LC user but dont have much knowledge about this bike. 1 think that trouble me is that, since the last time i change my tire, the bike got some kind of sekat2, like the some 1 pull it from behind when going through a small hole or the yellw line on the road. i suspect maybe the tire too much air but reduce the air also not solve. ask my friend and some said maybe because of chain or suspension. dont wanna go shop yet scared got charge to check. anybody got problem like mine? any solution?
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serigala	Apr 27 2014, 07:07 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #188
CurSedWolf Senior Member 1,439 posts Joined: Jan 2008 From: Dungeons of the Wolves	QUOTE(boyadarat @ Apr 26 2014, 12:10 AM) hey guys, im an LC user but dont have much knowledge about this bike. 1 think that trouble me is that, since the last time i change my tire, the bike got some kind of sekat2, like the some 1 pull it from behind when going through a small hole or the yellw line on the road. i suspect maybe the tire too much air but reduce the air also not solve. ask my friend and some said maybe because of chain or suspension. dont wanna go shop yet scared got charge to check. anybody got problem like mine? any solution? LC model? tire size? front or rear?
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radiohear	Apr 28 2014, 01:49 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #189
Getting Started Junior Member 223 posts Joined: Mar 2011	Guys planning to get lc135 supersport this may.. Which color is nice? I like white but.. Kena rajin mau jaga kan.. Easy nampak kotor..
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TSalexei	Apr 29 2014, 10:37 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #190
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	boyadaratCheck the chain, is it too tight? Make sure when you sit on it, there is free play with the chain. radiohearBuy what you like. Would you regret more if you have chosen another color, but still wished you have taken the white instead?
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mp3737	Apr 29 2014, 11:40 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #191
New Member Newbie 0 posts Joined: Nov 2012	newbie here
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piju	Apr 29 2014, 11:49 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #192
Getting Started Junior Member 164 posts Joined: Feb 2008	Hello guys, newbie here. i own a 2013 yamaha lc 4 speed. i read about CJ IPOH MB 28mm exhaust standard cutting (same design as original yamaha exhaust) can i install it to my standard (no modifications) bike? is there any bad effect after i install it ?
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nerp	May 1 2014, 05:10 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #193
Getting Started Junior Member 58 posts Joined: Jun 2012	some ppl say it can affect the block since it will become too 'lawas'.. but i've used the cj ipoh mb for a few months, am using std block, my block still in good cond.. depend on rider maybe.. but i advice u to change to bigger block, use fz blok or ceramic block like ikk, cms or etc..
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mp3737	May 1 2014, 07:18 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #194
New Member Newbie 0 posts Joined: Nov 2012	QUOTE(piju @ Apr 29 2014, 11:49 PM) Hello guys, newbie here. i own a 2013 yamaha lc 4 speed. i read about CJ IPOH MB 28mm exhaust standard cutting (same design as original yamaha exhaust) can i install it to my standard (no modifications) bike? is there any bad effect after i install it ? when my bike is new(1week), i have change the CDI(Racing CDI) n exhaust(CJ Ipoh 24mm) ...more pick up(NICE)
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mp3737	May 1 2014, 07:19 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #195
New Member Newbie 0 posts Joined: Nov 2012	QUOTE(piju @ Apr 29 2014, 11:49 PM) Hello guys, newbie here. i own a 2013 yamaha lc 4 speed. i read about CJ IPOH MB 28mm exhaust standard cutting (same design as original yamaha exhaust) can i install it to my standard (no modifications) bike? is there any bad effect after i install it ? when my bike is new(1week), i have change the CDI(Racing CDI,but u have to by pass the fan add a switch to on/off) n exhaust(CJ Ipoh 24mm) ...more pick up(NICE)..
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thianz	May 4 2014, 09:14 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #196
New Member Junior Member 16 posts Joined: Jan 2009	» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « parking ...... dulu .. motor baru siap pasang balik ...
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thianz	May 4 2014, 09:21 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #197
New Member Junior Member 16 posts Joined: Jan 2009	QUOTE(mp3737 @ May 1 2014, 07:19 PM) when my bike is new(1week), i have change the CDI(Racing CDI,but u have to by pass the fan add a switch to on/off) n exhaust(CJ Ipoh 24mm) ...more pick up(NICE).. change CDI pun mau buat switch for fan ???
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TSalexei	May 5 2014, 09:57 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #198
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(thianz @ May 4 2014, 09:14 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « parking ...... dulu .. motor baru siap pasang balik ... hey man, what happened?
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thianz	May 5 2014, 07:01 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #199
New Member Junior Member 16 posts Joined: Jan 2009	QUOTE(alexei @ May 5 2014, 09:57 AM) hey man, what happened? do top service .... sudah buka .. xde masa pasang .... almost 4-5 month i dump there ...
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lms2005	May 5 2014, 11:51 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #200
Regular Senior Member 1,270 posts Joined: May 2005 From: somewhere else	Hi there... new 5s user reported: )
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TSalexei	May 6 2014, 08:07 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #201
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	thianzDrive bigger bike only now? LC put aside mostly? Haha... QUOTE(lms2005 @ May 5 2014, 11:51 PM) Hi there... new 5s user reported: ) Lokasi mana? Do you want to be added to front page? Can attach a photo also. This post has been edited by alexei: May 6 2014, 08:08 AM
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piju	May 7 2014, 09:48 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #202
Getting Started Junior Member 164 posts Joined: Feb 2008	Guys, i need to know about air/fuel mixture screw setting for stock lc v2 4 speed. anybody knows please tell me. how many counter clockwise turns from the fully closed position? it is hard for me to find the stock setting because of new carburator that lc v2 use is mikuni bs25. it has rubber diaphragm that controls the needle jet. so, if you twist the throttle, it would have some delays before the air/fuel mixture being suck by the piston. thanks.
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thianz	May 7 2014, 09:57 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #203
New Member Junior Member 16 posts Joined: Jan 2009	QUOTE(piju @ May 7 2014, 09:48 PM) Guys, i need to know about air/fuel mixture screw setting for stock lc v2 4 speed. anybody knows please tell me. how many counter clockwise turns from the fully closed position? it is hard for me to find the stock setting because of new carburator that lc v2 use is mikuni bs25. it has rubber diaphragm that controls the needle jet. so, if you twist the throttle, it would have some delays before the air/fuel mixture being suck by the piston. thanks. u pergi kacau ???
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lms2005	May 8 2014, 12:36 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #204
Regular Senior Member 1,270 posts Joined: May 2005 From: somewhere else	QUOTE(alexei @ May 6 2014, 08:07 AM) thianzDrive bigger bike only now? LC put aside mostly? Haha... Lokasi mana? Do you want to be added to front page? Can attach a photo also. No photo yet... eveything still stock..
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piju	May 8 2014, 01:57 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #205
Getting Started Junior Member 164 posts Joined: Feb 2008	QUOTE(thianz @ May 7 2014, 09:57 PM) u pergi kacau ??? yes. i changed from stock paper air filter to high flow air filter. now i set the air/fuel screw to 5 turns out from fully closed position.
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lms2005	May 8 2014, 03:03 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #206
Regular Senior Member 1,270 posts Joined: May 2005 From: somewhere else	QUOTE(piju @ May 8 2014, 01:57 PM) yes. i changed from stock paper air filter to high flow air filter. now i set the air/fuel screw to 5 turns out from fully closed position. Wrong setting can cause high fc
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piju	May 8 2014, 03:06 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #207
Getting Started Junior Member 164 posts Joined: Feb 2008	QUOTE(lms2005 @ May 8 2014, 03:03 PM) Wrong setting can cause high fc yes. i know that. this is why i'm asking here. hope you guys can help me to find perfect setting for mikuni bs25 carburetor.
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lms2005	May 8 2014, 03:09 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #208
Regular Senior Member 1,270 posts Joined: May 2005 From: somewhere else	QUOTE(piju @ May 8 2014, 03:06 PM) yes. i know that. this is why i'm asking here. hope you guys can help me to find perfect setting for mikuni bs25 carburetor. Different bike same model setting also different. Go find sifu tune for u. Or u can try from pusing 1/4, 1/2, 3/4...
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piju	May 8 2014, 03:15 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #209
Getting Started Junior Member 164 posts Joined: Feb 2008	QUOTE(lms2005 @ May 8 2014, 03:09 PM) Different bike same model setting also different. Go find sifu tune for u. Or u can try from pusing 1/4, 1/2, 3/4... on the left side of mikuni bs25 there is a screw located near the intake manifold. is that fuel screw or air/fuel mixture screw ?
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thianz	May 8 2014, 04:51 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #210
New Member Junior Member 16 posts Joined: Jan 2009	QUOTE(piju @ May 8 2014, 03:15 PM) on the left side of mikuni bs25 there is a screw located near the intake manifold. is that fuel screw or air/fuel mixture screw ? kacau air screw .. the idle screw ... u pusing bila timing tinggi , u kasi rendah or too rendah u kasi tinggi ....
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TSalexei	May 9 2014, 11:48 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #211
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(piju @ May 8 2014, 03:06 PM) yes. i know that. this is why i'm asking here. hope you guys can help me to find perfect setting for mikuni bs25 carburetor. Stupid BS carbs... Tips for you: Close the pilot screw, and open 2.5 turns. The bike will run very poorly, or not at all, without the airbox installed. The airbox also needs to be properly sealed, so consider replacing any deteriorated foam seals as needed. If pod air filters are installed the carbs will have to be rejetted to match the low restriction airflow. Fine tune the carbs (engine fully warmed up and idling) by adjust the pilot screws in roughly equal amounts until the highest idle speed is achieved. If the engine speed doesn’t respond to this tweak, leave them at 2.5 turns. If the engine stumbles just off idle, try opening the pilot screws another ½ turn and try again. The maximum number of open turns is four, otherwise you should get larger pilot jets. If the engine surges or feels like it’s running outof gas when cruising at steady speed, such as on the freeway, opening the pilot screw more and/orshimming the needles may help.
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TSalexei	May 9 2014, 11:49 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #212
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(piju @ May 8 2014, 03:06 PM) yes. i know that. this is why i'm asking here. hope you guys can help me to find perfect setting for mikuni bs25 carburetor. Stupid BS carbs... Tips for you: Close the pilot screw, and open 2.5 turns. The bike will run very poorly, or not at all, without the airbox installed. The airbox also needs to be properly sealed, so consider replacing any deteriorated foam seals as needed. If pod air filters are installed the carbs will have to be rejetted to match the low restriction airflow. Fine tune the carbs (engine fully warmed up and idling) by adjust the pilot screws in roughly equal amounts until the highest idle speed is achieved. If the engine speed doesn’t respond to this tweak, leave them at 2.5 turns. If the engine stumbles just off idle, try opening the pilot screws another ½ turn and try again. The maximum number of open turns is four, otherwise you should get larger pilot jets. If the engine surges or feels like it’s running outof gas when cruising at steady speed, such as on the freeway, opening the pilot screw more and/orshimming the needles may help.
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piju	May 9 2014, 12:16 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #213
Getting Started Junior Member 164 posts Joined: Feb 2008	QUOTE(alexei @ May 9 2014, 11:49 AM) Stupid BS carbs... Tips for you: Close the pilot screw, and open 2.5 turns. The bike will run very poorly, or not at all, without the airbox installed. The airbox also needs to be properly sealed, so consider replacing any deteriorated foam seals as needed. If pod air filters are installed the carbs will have to be rejetted to match the low restriction airflow. Fine tune the carbs (engine fully warmed up and idling) by adjust the pilot screws in roughly equal amounts until the highest idle speed is achieved. If the engine speed doesn’t respond to this tweak, leave them at 2.5 turns. If the engine stumbles just off idle, try opening the pilot screws another ½ turn and try again. The maximum number of open turns is four, otherwise you should get larger pilot jets. If the engine surges or feels like it’s running outof gas when cruising at steady speed, such as on the freeway, opening the pilot screw more and/orshimming the needles may help. thanks for the tips! i just know that screw which located near the intake manifold is FUEL screw. this mikuni bs25 is not for performance but i has good fuel consumption. i just changed the stock paper air filter to a high flow K&N clone air filter. then i set the carburetor fuel mixture screw (this screw located near the intake manifold) to it's fully close position. i started the bike and set the carburetor idle to 2000-3000 RPM and open the fuel mixture by turning it counter clockwise until i hear the bike revving to it's maximum RPM. it is about 3.5 turns counter clockwise from the fully close position. after that, i added 1.5 more turns from the 3.5 turns position. means 5 turns out. im not sure if my setting now is lean or too lean or rich or too rich.
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lms2005	May 9 2014, 12:22 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #214
Regular Senior Member 1,270 posts Joined: May 2005 From: somewhere else	QUOTE(piju @ May 9 2014, 12:16 PM) thanks for the tips! i just know that screw which located near the intake manifold is FUEL screw. this mikuni bs25 is not for performance but i has good fuel consumption. i just changed the stock paper air filter to a high flow K&N clone air filter. then i set the carburetor fuel mixture screw (this screw located near the intake manifold) to it's fully close position. i started the bike and set the carburetor idle to 2000-3000 RPM and open the fuel mixture by turning it counter clockwise until i hear the bike revving to it's maximum RPM. it is about 3.5 turns counter clockwise from the fully close position. after that, i added 1.5 more turns from the 3.5 turns position. means 5 turns out. im not sure if my setting now is lean or too lean or rich or too rich. I also replaced with k&n usa, need setting again?
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piju	May 9 2014, 12:30 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #215
Getting Started Junior Member 164 posts Joined: Feb 2008	QUOTE(lms2005 @ May 9 2014, 12:22 PM) I also replaced with k&n usa, need setting again? i think yes. i also changed the stock exhaust to a 28mm manifold exhaust. this is why i kacau the stock carburetor setting. if we set the carburetor too lean, the engine will be easy to start on cold temperature, but the combustion chamber can be hotter so not suitable for long distance and it also not good for spark plug. if we set the carburetor too rich, it will be hard to start on cold temperature because fuel is more than the air but good for long distance and also not good for spark plug. i'm looking for balance between this 2 conditions. waiting for bro alexei to answer the question. This post has been edited by piju: May 9 2014, 12:35 PM
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thianz	May 9 2014, 04:43 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #216
New Member Junior Member 16 posts Joined: Jan 2009	xpaya knn filter la .. go cari those racing air filter around 20-30 dah cukup .... i no air filter pun ok jer .....
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piju	May 10 2014, 12:03 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #217
Getting Started Junior Member 164 posts Joined: Feb 2008	QUOTE(thianz @ May 9 2014, 04:43 PM) xpaya knn filter la .. go cari those racing air filter around 20-30 dah cukup .... i no air filter pun ok jer ..... you lc version berapa ? carburetor apa ?
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thianz	May 10 2014, 02:21 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #218
New Member Junior Member 16 posts Joined: Jan 2009	QUOTE(piju @ May 10 2014, 12:03 AM) you lc version berapa ? carburetor apa ? v1 .. carb tzm , carb original .....
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lms2005	May 10 2014, 10:17 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #219
Regular Senior Member 1,270 posts Joined: May 2005 From: somewhere else	juz wan to confirm, d oil filter replace every time oil change or twice a time?
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thianz	May 10 2014, 10:41 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #220
New Member Junior Member 16 posts Joined: Jan 2009	QUOTE(lms2005 @ May 10 2014, 10:17 AM) juz wan to confirm, d oil filter replace every time oil change or twice a time? kalau kaya .. boleh tukar every time .... kalau x kaya .... sila pakai ori punya ... change it on 3rd EO service ... or u can look for those oil filter can reuse .... around rm20-25 .... buka dan cuci every service ....
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piju	May 11 2014, 11:42 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #221
Getting Started Junior Member 164 posts Joined: Feb 2008	QUOTE(thianz @ May 9 2014, 04:43 PM) xpaya knn filter la .. go cari those racing air filter around 20-30 dah cukup .... i no air filter pun ok jer ..... air filter racing tu macamana ?
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TSalexei	May 12 2014, 11:09 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #222
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(piju @ May 9 2014, 12:16 PM) thanks for the tips! i just know that screw which located near the intake manifold is FUEL screw. this mikuni bs25 is not for performance but i has good fuel consumption. i just changed the stock paper air filter to a high flow K&N clone air filter. then i set the carburetor fuel mixture screw (this screw located near the intake manifold) to it's fully close position. i started the bike and set the carburetor idle to 2000-3000 RPM and open the fuel mixture by turning it counter clockwise until i hear the bike revving to it's maximum RPM. it is about 3.5 turns counter clockwise from the fully close position. after that, i added 1.5 more turns from the 3.5 turns position. means 5 turns out. im not sure if my setting now is lean or too lean or rich or too rich. How good is your FC? Can you share? Fuel screw means, the more you open, the more petrol. For you, to open another 1.5 turn is too rich already. Normally, after you get the max RPM, is richen a little bit, that's even less than 1/8 turn. For carb setting, even 1/8 a turn is considered sensitive. In my case, after setting done, I mark the pilot screw to check next time if setting go off. QUOTE(lms2005 @ May 9 2014, 12:22 PM) I also replaced with k&n usa, need setting again? Yes, for BS carb, as it is sensitive to air filter change. QUOTE(piju @ May 9 2014, 12:30 PM) i also changed the stock exhaust to a 28mm manifold exhaust. this is why i kacau the stock carburetor setting. if we set the carburetor too lean, the engine will be easy to start on cold temperature, but the combustion chamber can be hotter so not suitable for long distance and it also not good for spark plug. if we set the carburetor too rich, it will be hard to start on cold temperature because fuel is more than the air but good for long distance and also not good for spark plug. i'm looking for balance between this 2 conditions. waiting for bro alexei to answer the question. For cold start, you need to richen the AFmix, that's why you have a choke. So, the bold parts in your quote is incorrect. Rich and lean does affect the plug life, but that's not the right way of putting it, because when the plug already dead, most likely the engine, too. Practically speaking, it is the other way around: The plug has to be 'hot enough' to clean itself, and reading the plug can tell you if you are running rich or lean. You change to 28mm manifold, and does it taper open? Or, is it 28mm all the way to silencer? If it tapers open, better torque for low-mid RPM only, but if 28mm all the way, no torque at low RPM, peaky engine. QUOTE(lms2005 @ May 10 2014, 10:17 AM) juz wan to confirm, d oil filter replace every time oil change or twice a time? Better change everytime.
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lms2005	May 12 2014, 01:16 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #223
Regular Senior Member 1,270 posts Joined: May 2005 From: somewhere else	QUOTE(thianz @ May 10 2014, 10:41 PM) kalau kaya .. boleh tukar every time .... kalau x kaya .... sila pakai ori punya ... change it on 3rd EO service ... or u can look for those oil filter can reuse .... around rm20-25 .... buka dan cuci every service .... Juz curious.. use wat to wash? Petrol?
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piju	May 12 2014, 03:31 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #224
Getting Started Junior Member 164 posts Joined: Feb 2008	QUOTE(alexei @ May 12 2014, 11:09 AM) How good is your FC? Can you share? Fuel screw means, the more you open, the more petrol. For you, to open another 1.5 turn is too rich already. Normally, after you get the max RPM, is richen a little bit, that's even less than 1/8 turn. For carb setting, even 1/8 a turn is considered sensitive. In my case, after setting done, I mark the pilot screw to check next time if setting go off. Yes, for BS carb, as it is sensitive to air filter change. For cold start, you need to richen the AFmix, that's why you have a choke. So, the bold parts in your quote is incorrect. Rich and lean does affect the plug life, but that's not the right way of putting it, because when the plug already dead, most likely the engine, too. Practically speaking, it is the other way around: The plug has to be 'hot enough' to clean itself, and reading the plug can tell you if you are running rich or lean. You change to 28mm manifold, and does it taper open? Or, is it 28mm all the way to silencer? If it tapers open, better torque for low-mid RPM only, but if 28mm all the way, no torque at low RPM, peaky engine. Better change everytime. thanks bro for the detail explanations. now i understand that choke means to richen the fuel mixture by choking the air. so, my max RPM i can hear is starting from 3.5 turns and above until 6 turns. after that it will get low again since fuel is more than the air. is it the best for my FUEL SCREW setting is at 3.5 turns only ? not 5 turns ? i need to know which is the optimal setting for my fuel screw with KNN air filter installed first, after that i will check my spark plug condition later. BTW bro alexei, i am a little bit confuse here since some people said i need to set the idling engine at 1100-1550rpm before setting the fuel screw, and some said i need to put engine idling rpm to 2500-3500 rpm first before setting the fuel screw. which one is the best method for mikuni bs25 carburetor ? these picture is my guide later. bro alexei, about the exhaust, it was 28mm manifold with standard muffler same design as stock. better sound than stock exhaust. but not too loud This post has been edited by piju: May 12 2014, 03:47 PM
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TSalexei	May 12 2014, 04:24 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #225
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(piju @ May 12 2014, 03:31 PM) thanks bro for the detail explanations. now i understand that choke means to richen the fuel mixture by choking the air. so, my max RPM i can hear is starting from 3.5 turns and above until 6 turns. after that it will get low again since fuel is more than the air. is it the best for my FUEL SCREW setting is at 3.5 turns only ? not 5 turns ? i need to know which is the optimal setting for my fuel screw with KNN air filter installed first, after that i will check my spark plug condition later. BTW bro alexei, i am a little bit confuse here since some people said i need to set the idling engine at 1100-1550rpm before setting the fuel screw, and some said i need to put engine idling rpm to 2500-3500 rpm first before setting the fuel screw. which one is the best method for mikuni bs25 carburetor ? bro alexei, about the exhaust, it was 28mm manifold with standard muffler same design as stock. better sound than stock exhaust. but not too loud The fuel setting goes like this, lean -> ideal -> rich. Only when over-rich it will bog down the engine, so, I would say start with 3.5 turn, and add another 1~2 minutes of a turn. This will only affect idle and 1/4th of the BS carb, which is something you can't tell. You will have to feel the engine response from off idle (slightly opening throttle) all the way to cruising speed. Idling just need to set higher than normal during carb tune. If 2.5~3.5k RPM, that might reach the jet needle setting range already. Once you get the pilot fuel screw correct, and notice cruising steady at quarter to half throttle is not good, then you adjust the jet needle. After that, test half throttle to full throttle, look for flat spot, and adjust mainjet. With the 28mm manifold, you might need to tune mainjet later. But, don't worry too much, figure out the pilot fuel screw first. My RGV plug reads between 'good' to 'best' now. For a 2 stroke to read a clean plug like that, took me a long time. Perhaps later I open it and have a look again, it's been a while. My journey took me through setting the pilot air screw, dropping the jet needle, reducing mainjet twice, and set the pilot air screw again until satisfied. Now, FC is city @ 170~180km, highway @ 280km per 4.9 liter petrol.
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piju	May 12 2014, 04:55 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #226
Getting Started Junior Member 164 posts Joined: Feb 2008	QUOTE(alexei @ May 12 2014, 04:24 PM) The fuel setting goes like this, lean -> ideal -> rich. Only when over-rich it will bog down the engine, so, I would say start with 3.5 turn, and add another 1~2 minutes of a turn. This will only affect idle and 1/4th of the BS carb, which is something you can't tell. You will have to feel the engine response from off idle (slightly opening throttle) all the way to cruising speed. Idling just need to set higher than normal during carb tune. If 2.5~3.5k RPM, that might reach the jet needle setting range already. Once you get the pilot fuel screw correct, and notice cruising steady at quarter to half throttle is not good, then you adjust the jet needle. After that, test half throttle to full throttle, look for flat spot, and adjust mainjet. With the 28mm manifold, you might need to tune mainjet later. But, don't worry too much, figure out the pilot fuel screw first. My RGV plug reads between 'good' to 'best' now. For a 2 stroke to read a clean plug like that, took me a long time. Perhaps later I open it and have a look again, it's been a while. My journey took me through setting the pilot air screw, dropping the jet needle, reducing mainjet twice, and set the pilot air screw again until satisfied. Now, FC is city @ 170~180km, highway @ 280km per 4.9 liter petrol. what do you mean with "add another 1~2 minutes of a turn" ? thanks for explanations again bro. actually my primary intention was to find the good optimal setting for fuel screw only. i am not planning to reposition jet needle now. maybe later. and i understood what you tried to say, it is like after tuning the fuel screw, i need to drive my bike and feel the acceleration by trying all degrees of throttle positions. right bro alexei?
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TSalexei	May 12 2014, 05:13 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #227
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	piju1~2 minutes of a turn, expressed like a clock face, a small amount of turn. Example, if 5 minutes would be like 1/12 of a turn. Yes, experience the acceleration by slowly twisting the throttle. If there is a bog or hesitant, tune again... until satisfied. For plug reading, refer to this: http://www.4secondsflat.com/Spark_plug_reading.html
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NewGUY	May 14 2014, 12:27 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #228
On my way Junior Member 515 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Currently in Selangor	Bro Alexei, Reporting FC on 177 cc or 62mm shark block, 2nd used by thianz http://www.fuelly.com/driver/etks2011/lc135-36 Thianz, Finally done...how to pay u for the block and return another block... Findings on Tires I found that the Duro Taiwan which has biji- biji at side 1) Nearing safety tire limit, feel like the tire puncture or will lari a bit a rear, size 80/90... 2) for front 70/90, I reach GPS speed at above 132km/h the tire start shake and feel float....I wonder is the tire limit, but when put at rear also same issue, so this Brand Tire not suitable for ppl going for high speed..
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NewGUY	May 14 2014, 12:31 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #229
On my way Junior Member 515 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Currently in Selangor	Corsa 80/90 Tires is abit more expensive than duro but it seems tat the rubber is thicker... I need to re calibrate my Koso Meter to 99% last time setting for duro 80/90 is not mistaken is 101%... Almost slip also with Duro Taiwan front 70/90.... Now setup front Corsa 80/90 and rear Duro Taiwan 70/90...just 1 use finish the tire and measure FC difference on rear 70/90...no difference, put back 80/90...This shud be enuf grip for 62mm...
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TSalexei	May 14 2014, 10:14 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #230
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	NewGUYThat fuelly profile is you? I added as fuelly friend now. My RGV FC seems better, using 70/90 and 80/90 tyres. Duro with biji on side? Is it like sisik? Maybe too new to me, haven't been looking at tyres lately. Can you share pics? There are 2 commonly good one, the HF-918 that looks like Battlax BT039, and Duro RS that looks like Michelin Pilot Power.
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piju	May 14 2014, 03:00 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #231
Getting Started Junior Member 164 posts Joined: Feb 2008	QUOTE(alexei @ May 12 2014, 05:13 PM) piju1~2 minutes of a turn, expressed like a clock face, a small amount of turn. Example, if 5 minutes would be like 1/12 of a turn. Yes, experience the acceleration by slowly twisting the throttle. If there is a bog or hesitant, tune again... until satisfied. For plug reading, refer to this: http://www.4secondsflat.com/Spark_plug_reading.html thanks bro, now i understand that i need to tune my carb again. i will close the fuel screw, open it to 3.5 turns and play around with 1~2 minutes turns. maybe i need to open or close more or stay at 3.5 turns right bro alexei? however, i need to set and play with the throttle first. different bikes and riders may comes with different result i think. btw, bro. which is the best way to increase RPM ? is it by turning the idle screw or just twisting throttle using hand ? This post has been edited by piju: May 14 2014, 03:02 PM
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TSalexei	May 14 2014, 06:36 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #232
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(piju @ May 14 2014, 03:00 PM) thanks bro, now i understand that i need to tune my carb again. i will close the fuel screw, open it to 3.5 turns and play around with 1~2 minutes turns. maybe i need to open or close more or stay at 3.5 turns right bro alexei? however, i need to set and play with the throttle first. different bikes and riders may comes with different result i think. btw, bro. which is the best way to increase RPM ? is it by turning the idle screw or just twisting throttle using hand ? Start again from 1 turn onwards, until the max RPM. Then, open another 2~3 minutes, just so slightly. Idle RPM is adjusted with idle screw.
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piju	May 14 2014, 07:26 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #233
Getting Started Junior Member 164 posts Joined: Feb 2008	QUOTE(alexei @ May 12 2014, 11:09 AM) How good is your FC? Can you share? Fuel screw means, the more you open, the more petrol. For you, to open another 1.5 turn is too rich already. Normally, after you get the max RPM, is richen a little bit, that's even less than 1/8 turn. btw bro alexei, quoting your previous reply. you said "normally after you get the max RPM, is richen a little bit", so, im here asking why do we need to open 2~3 minutes more ?
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TSalexei	May 14 2014, 10:21 PM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #234
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	piju I guess is for protection, when during cooler days, from running to lean.
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lms2005	May 15 2014, 12:49 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #235
Regular Senior Member 1,270 posts Joined: May 2005 From: somewhere else	after oil replacement at 500km, it fell like hard to start need to tune again... is it normal?
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TSalexei	May 15 2014, 09:03 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #236
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(lms2005 @ May 15 2014, 12:49 AM) after oil replacement at 500km, it fell like hard to start need to tune again... is it normal? yes.
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piju	May 15 2014, 10:32 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #237
Getting Started Junior Member 164 posts Joined: Feb 2008	QUOTE(alexei @ May 14 2014, 10:21 PM) piju I guess is for protection, when during cooler days, from running to lean. i see, thanks for the info. just now i set my fuel screw to 3.5 turns and added 2~3 minutes more. idle RPM quite good. throttle respons also good. but when i ride the bike and feel like some bog and hesitant happened when the bike is high RPM on gear 2, after i shift it to gear 3 then it's ok. is this happen because im using high flow air filter? (i assume than when higher rpm, the combustion chamber will produce more pressure to suck the air and since im using high flow air filter, the air will enter more than fuel, this is why bog and hesitant happened)
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TSalexei	May 15 2014, 04:38 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #238
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(piju @ May 15 2014, 10:32 AM) i see, thanks for the info. just now i set my fuel screw to 3.5 turns and added 2~3 minutes more. idle RPM quite good. throttle respons also good. but when i ride the bike and feel like some bog and hesitant happened when the bike is high RPM on gear 2, after i shift it to gear 3 then it's ok. is this happen because im using high flow air filter? (i assume than when higher rpm, the combustion chamber will produce more pressure to suck the air and since im using high flow air filter, the air will enter more than fuel, this is why bog and hesitant happened) If you think is high RPM, then perhaps need to kacau needle. Before you do that, try with pilot screw open and close quarter turn extra from default 3.5 turns. At different throttle opening, the AF ratio changes. So, after air filter change, you need to readjust the whole carb circuits... not just pilot screw.
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NewGUY	May 15 2014, 05:36 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #239
On my way Junior Member 515 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Currently in Selangor	QUOTE(alexei @ May 14 2014, 10:14 AM) NewGUYThat fuelly profile is you? I added as fuelly friend now. My RGV FC seems better, using 70/90 and 80/90 tyres. Duro with biji on side? Is it like sisik? Maybe too new to me, haven't been looking at tyres lately. Can you share pics? There are 2 commonly good one, the HF-918 that looks like Battlax BT039, and Duro RS that looks like Michelin Pilot Power. Sisik or biji biji like maxxis, shop seller say is duro taiwan...
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TSalexei	May 15 2014, 05:43 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #240
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(NewGUY @ May 15 2014, 05:36 PM) Sisik or biji biji like maxxis, shop seller say is duro taiwan... Erm, what does the tyre sidewall printed? Got brand, model number, 'Made in Taiwan' or 'Duro RS' printed or not?
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piju	May 15 2014, 08:12 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #241
Getting Started Junior Member 164 posts Joined: Feb 2008	QUOTE(alexei @ May 15 2014, 04:38 PM) If you think is high RPM, then perhaps need to kacau needle. Before you do that, try with pilot screw open and close quarter turn extra from default 3.5 turns. At different throttle opening, the AF ratio changes. So, after air filter change, you need to readjust the whole carb circuits... not just pilot screw. thanks for the advise, i have already readjust the fuel screw. i added more than 3.5 turns. i think it is 3 and 3/4 turns or more. but not more than 4 turns. throttle response on low RPM seems good. but i need to ride the bike at higher RPM to know the results on higher RPM response.
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TSalexei	May 15 2014, 10:14 PM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #242
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	pijuthanks for the patience.
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NewGUY	May 15 2014, 10:57 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #243
On my way Junior Member 515 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Currently in Selangor	QUOTE(alexei @ May 15 2014, 05:43 PM) Erm, what does the tyre sidewall printed? Got brand, model number, 'Made in Taiwan' or 'Duro RS' printed or not? Brand Duro Model maybe is DM1198 website: www.duro.com.tw Cant find the RS Anyway, ban this tire for me.... This post has been edited by NewGUY: May 16 2014, 10:02 AM
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piju	May 15 2014, 11:30 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #244
Getting Started Junior Member 164 posts Joined: Feb 2008	QUOTE(alexei @ May 15 2014, 10:14 PM) pijuthanks for the patience. yeah. thanks to you too my brother. now i readjust the fuel screw again. i set the idle screw until i hear high revving and after the adjustments on fuel screw, i reset the idle screw now back to normal. maybe on 1200-1500 RPM i think, i dont have a takometer to measure the RPM. throttle response quite good on lower and higher RPM. my bike is energetic same as the fuel screw on 5 turns out position. i dont have problems starting my bike either it's in cold or hot temperature. morning starts never had problems. i'm not sure either my setting now is rich or lean. let me bring along a screwdriver with me when i ride the bike tomorrow. if i feel any bog or hesitant either on lower or higher RPM, i will adjust it by opening more or closing back the fuel screw. i will keep you posted about the results later.
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TSalexei	May 16 2014, 06:37 AM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #245
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	thianzthanks for sharing bro. I'll go town and look for this tyre and take pics...
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NewGUY	May 16 2014, 10:16 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #246
On my way Junior Member 515 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Currently in Selangor	QUOTE(alexei @ May 16 2014, 06:37 AM) thianzthanks for sharing bro. I'll go town and look for this tyre and take pics... i still using 70/90 on rear, the sisik like maxxis but the center line i straight, maxxis is like snake not straight.... i notice also Michelin Tires are very expensive also, I heard the shop quoted 80/90 for 115, 90/80 for 135... RM 135 can get R13/70H tire for car for cheap brand... For my record change 6 pcs of tires already... 1) Duro 100/80 2) Comet 90/90 3) Duro Thailand 80/90 4) Used Battlelax 90/80 5) Duro Taiwan 70/90 6) Duro Taiwan 80/90 Tires 1 to 3, get to use to above 10 000 km which should be over safety limit guide but no feel of shaking or feel like tire puncture 80/90 was change almost 9 000 km bcos of the feeling now 70/90 put at front at 137 km /h GPS like shake liao, no confident to go more... now 70/90 put at back at 129 to 134 km/h GPS start vibrate or shake.... Tire still got about 50% to safety limit guide..... Hope finish it soon.... alexei, your km/l seems to be higher but petrol for full tank+2T full tank would cost more....so km/sen will be higher, mind to share that...
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TSalexei	May 16 2014, 06:21 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #247
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	Since naik harga, more reasons not to use Michelin liao. My RGV fuelly: 2T around 1L per 1000km, RM20 each botol.
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piju	May 17 2014, 06:28 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #248
Getting Started Junior Member 164 posts Joined: Feb 2008	alexei i think i know what is the biggest problem tuning mikuni bs25 carburetor. it is because of the low restriction air filter. i think i solved the problem by reinstall the stock paper air filter and retune the fuel screw until i hear maximum RPM. if i still want to use the low restriction air filter, i think i need to rejetting the carburetor to compensate the air. as i know, the perfect combustion will need 14.7 air and 1 fuel. means 14.7:1. if we allow more air to enter the combustion chamber, then we need to allow more fuel by rejetting the carburetor. this is critical on higher RPM but not critical on idle and low RPM. if we allow more air and more fuel, means we are dropping the fuel efficiency. we still dont know either the combustion chamber can handle the burning or not. if it can handle, then we will get more power. if it dont, means no perfect combustion then we will have fuel efficiency drop and the side effect is our piston maybe dirtier than before. am i right bro alexei ? This post has been edited by piju: May 17 2014, 06:31 PM
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TSalexei	May 17 2014, 06:48 PM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #249
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(piju @ May 17 2014, 06:28 PM) alexei i think i know what is the biggest problem tuning mikuni bs25 carburetor. it is because of the low restriction air filter. i think i solved the problem by reinstall the stock paper air filter and retune the fuel screw until i hear maximum RPM. if i still want to use the low restriction air filter, i think i need to rejetting the carburetor to compensate the air. as i know, the perfect combustion will need 14.7 air and 1 fuel. means 14.7:1. if we allow more air to enter the combustion chamber, then we need to allow more fuel by rejetting the carburetor. this is critical on higher RPM but not critical on idle and low RPM. if we allow more air and more fuel, means we are dropping the fuel efficiency. we still dont know either the combustion chamber can handle the burning or not. if it can handle, then we will get more power. if it dont, means no perfect combustion then we will have fuel efficiency drop and the side effect is our piston maybe dirtier than before. am i right bro alexei ? I think someone mentioned BS25 carb needs some restriction at the intake, with the high flow air filter, quite a lot needs to be done. Basically, without the intake restriction, the carb would lose the required vacuum to open. That means, it will never reach max throttle opening. To rejet, is critical for all rev range, not just high RPM. In real case, for the same engine, improved air flow will produce more power and smoothen torque curve. It is about making it easier to drive, and when that happens, sometimes it actually improves FC. About the carbon deposit, I think it is inevitable.
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piju	May 17 2014, 07:22 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #250
Getting Started Junior Member 164 posts Joined: Feb 2008	QUOTE(alexei @ May 17 2014, 06:48 PM) I think someone mentioned BS25 carb needs some restriction at the intake, with the high flow air filter, quite a lot needs to be done. Basically, without the intake restriction, the carb would lose the required vacuum to open. That means, it will never reach max throttle opening. To rejet, is critical for all rev range, not just high RPM. In real case, for the same engine, improved air flow will produce more power and smoothen torque curve. It is about making it easier to drive, and when that happens, sometimes it actually improves FC. About the carbon deposit, I think it is inevitable. ok bro alexei maybe i need to do a lot with mikuni bs25 if i want to use it with high flow air filter. or else, change the mikuni bs25 with the vm22 carburetor. now i know why people change their yamaha lc v2 carb to v1 carb. it should be carb first, then the air filter change. for EFI systems, or normal type carburetors, i believe that using high flow air filter will improve their torque and HP. maybe not for vacuum operated carburetors like mikuni bs25. the yamaha v1 carburetor which is mikuni vm22 operates differently from mikuni bs25. for the vm22, throttle controls the needle jet. so if we twist the throttle from close to maximum opening, you will force the engine revving from low to high RPM. for mikuni bs25, throttle controls the butterfly valve. not needle jet. if we twist the throttle from close to maximum, it only allows more vacuum pressure to the rubber diaphram for liftting the needle jet. we cant force the engine revving to the max, it will do by itself, slowly. if we install high flow air filters on mikuni bs25, i think it will reduce the vacuum pressure and slowing down movements of the rubber diaphragm and it also will never reach the maximum needle jet opening like you already said. now i see why yamaha created bottleneck for air to enter the yamaha lc v2 air filter box. to create high pressure for lifting the rubber diaphragm. what say you alexei ? This post has been edited by piju: May 17 2014, 07:45 PM
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TSalexei	May 17 2014, 08:09 PM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #251
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	pijuIf use high flow filter on BS25 carb, it actually 'restricts' the throttle. So, it doesn't improve performance. Unless if the engine is modified to demand more air through the carb, then perhaps it can make a difference. Honestly, I haven't tuned a BS25 carb before, so I can't say a lot about it. This post has been edited by alexei: May 18 2014, 05:07 PM
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NewGUY	May 18 2014, 02:32 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #252
On my way Junior Member 515 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Currently in Selangor	QUOTE(alexei @ May 16 2014, 06:21 PM) Since naik harga, more reasons not to use Michelin liao. My RGV fuelly: 2T around 1L per 1000km, RM20 each botol. So means every tank of fuel is 4.6 liters + about 250ml right? u getting 250km per tank? how much per km? mine around 0.065 sen per km i just 1 to know the difference.... Bcos a lot of ppl say untune 4T compare to untune 2T, have 50% saving in petrol and 2T....
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TSalexei	May 18 2014, 05:07 PM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #253
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(NewGUY @ May 18 2014, 02:32 AM) So means every tank of fuel is 4.6 liters + about 250ml right? u getting 250km per tank? how much per km? mine around 0.065 sen per km i just 1 to know the difference.... Bcos a lot of ppl say untune 4T compare to untune 2T, have 50% saving in petrol and 2T.... My fuelly includes highway, so a bit too good for city riding. Petrol: RM9.6 for 170~180km, 5.5 sen per km. 2T: RM20/1000km, 2 sen per km. Mine petrol + 2T total is 7.5 sen per km. Yours at 3.0L/100km, is about 6.3 sen per km. This post has been edited by alexei: May 18 2014, 05:14 PM
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piju	May 18 2014, 10:29 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #254
Getting Started Junior Member 164 posts Joined: Feb 2008	QUOTE(alexei @ May 17 2014, 08:09 PM) pijuIf use high flow filter on BS25 carb, it actually 'restricts' the throttle. So, it doesn't improve performance. Unless if the engine is modified to demand more air through the carb, then perhaps it can make a difference. Honestly, I haven't tuned a BS25 carb before, so I can't say a lot about it. bro alexei, i have already retune my BS25 and reinstalled the stock paper air filter. i warned the bike, and then i closed the fuel screw to it's close position. i opened the fuel screw for 1 turn and started the bike. then i opened fuel screw 1/4 turn more and listen to the RPM. i end up with 2 and half turns. on 2 and half turns, the bike started to rev on higher RPM. when i open more, the RPM stays high. when i open more and more, the RPM went down. so i closed the fuel screw again, and yet end up on 2 and half turns. i assumed that on 2 and half turns position. the bike reach it's first maximum RPM level. i added more turns, maybe about 3~4 minutes more. total turns maybe 2 and 3/4 turns. is this the correct way to tune ? i'm not sure is my setting now rich or lean. could you clarify me bro alexei ? thanks
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NewGUY	May 19 2014, 08:14 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #255
On my way Junior Member 515 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Currently in Selangor	QUOTE(alexei @ May 18 2014, 05:07 PM) My fuelly includes highway, so a bit too good for city riding. Petrol: RM9.6 for 170~180km, 5.5 sen per km. 2T: RM20/1000km, 2 sen per km. Mine petrol + 2T total is 7.5 sen per km. Yours at 3.0L/100km, is about 6.3 sen per km. got it blinking quite sometime can get max pump till 3.928 liters using 150cc block modded only 2.5L/100km...
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TSalexei	May 19 2014, 09:28 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #256
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	pijuThat looks correct. NewGUYGood what?
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piju	May 19 2014, 12:56 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #257
Getting Started Junior Member 164 posts Joined: Feb 2008	QUOTE(alexei @ May 19 2014, 09:28 AM) pijuThat looks correct. NewGUYGood what? sorry bro alexei, i didnt mentioned that after i warned to bike, i set the idle screw to higher RPM than before. maybe around 2000 - 3000 RPM. am i on the right way tuning the carb bro? am i getting the best and optimal setting result ?
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TSalexei	May 19 2014, 01:24 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #258
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	pijuHere are the steps, in short: - warm up - set idle screw to high, RPM ~1.5k to 2k RPM. - set pilot screw to reach max RPM, open few more minutes. - set idle screw to normal, RPM ~1k, or engine is running smoothly. Check: - off-throttle performance: from idle, pulas the throttle fast and see if engine can follow or not - steady acceleration at fixed throttle opening - acceleration with continuous throttle opening If there is any engine bog or flat response, continue to replicate the condition, and check the plug to tell if rich or lean. Perform tuning, and check again. Until puas. In the end, your bike will have very low FC, good power across RPM and throttle opening. No semput-semput or misfire here and there, perfect. Then, if you upgrade parts, may need to go through the whole process again. If lucky, some minor tuning is enough.
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piju	May 19 2014, 01:35 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #259
Getting Started Junior Member 164 posts Joined: Feb 2008	QUOTE(alexei @ May 19 2014, 01:24 PM) pijuHere are the steps, in short: - warm up - set idle screw to high, RPM ~1.5k to 2k RPM. - set pilot screw to reach max RPM, open few more minutes. - set idle screw to normal, RPM ~1k, or engine is running smoothly. Check: - off-throttle performance: from idle, pulas the throttle fast and see if engine can follow or not - steady acceleration at fixed throttle opening - acceleration with continuous throttle opening If there is any engine bog or flat response, continue to replicate the condition, and check the plug to tell if rich or lean. Perform tuning, and check again. Until puas. In the end, your bike will have very low FC, good power across RPM and throttle opening. No semput-semput or misfire here and there, perfect. Then, if you upgrade parts, may need to go through the whole process again. If lucky, some minor tuning is enough. thanks bro. i followed your steps. 1. off throttle performance good. 2. steady acceleration good. 3. acceleration with continuous throttle opening also good. heard no misfiring or semput. i think i'm good to go now. bytheway bro alexei, i asked 2 friends and they told me that stock setting for mikuni bs25 on yamaha lc v2 version is at 1 and half turns. on 1 and half turns, i wont get maximum RPM. is this true that most bike's carburetor factory setting are on lean mixture ? not tuned to it's maximum performance ? This post has been edited by piju: May 19 2014, 01:39 PM
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TSalexei	May 19 2014, 02:39 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #260
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	pijuI know it's 1 5/8 turn for the VM carb, not sure for BS carb. I'll need to look at its service manual to tell if that is true or not, which I don't have. Do you have its service manual, since you own one? IMO, factory setting is usually richer, so that the bikes produced are more likely to run smoothly. Keep this page for your reference: http://www.zrxoa.org/webpages/techinfo/carb/carbtuning.html
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NewGUY	May 19 2014, 04:35 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #261
On my way Junior Member 515 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Currently in Selangor	QUOTE(alexei @ May 19 2014, 09:28 AM) pijuThat looks correct. NewGUYGood what? Just bcos LC tank too small need pump often d.... If i travel a lot on bike, I can pump almost everyday.... Just for your info, latest or 2014 CBR500 or 471 cc can do 27km/l on wmtc for, IINM is 55HP Higher top speed until 181km/h weight 192kg around there tempting bike, quite cheap compare previous sbk.... mine now only get 31.5km on average.... top for mine I expect not more than 145km/h HP not more than 25HP, LC about 130kg...
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TSalexei	May 19 2014, 06:20 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #262
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	Kapcai don't mod, get big commuter bike like that is best.
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NewGUY	May 19 2014, 09:02 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #263
On my way Junior Member 515 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Currently in Selangor	QUOTE(alexei @ May 19 2014, 06:20 PM) Kapcai don't mod, get big commuter bike like that is best. But last time where got such option all sbk high FC and high maintenance.... Last time can afford also, all sbk like 100% overprice.... Kawa ER6n, Z800, R6 all below 20km per liter.... The CBR 500 2014 fc is even better than Kawa Z250 or Ninja 250.... Looks 250 cc is underpower for the chasis...
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TSalexei	May 19 2014, 09:26 PM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #264
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(NewGUY @ May 19 2014, 09:02 PM) But last time where got such option all sbk high FC and high maintenance.... Last time can afford also, all sbk like 100% overprice.... Kawa ER6n, Z800, R6 all below 20km per liter.... The CBR 500 2014 fc is even better than Kawa Z250 or Ninja 250.... Looks 250 cc is underpower for the chasis... Well, you have to look hard enough, and be more tolerating. Of course, if you can only consider new bikes, there isn't an option. FC of CBR500R is good, 250R is average for its CC, but they are similar around 50~60mpg. If I have the money to buy a brand new kapcai, I would rather get any other used bike. Imagine if at the time, you bought a 2nd hand ZZR250 at 7k. Even today, you can sell the bike at the same price.
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NewGUY	May 19 2014, 09:36 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #265
On my way Junior Member 515 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Currently in Selangor	QUOTE(alexei @ May 19 2014, 09:26 PM) Well, you have to look hard enough, and be more tolerating. Of course, if you can only consider new bikes, there isn't an option. FC of CBR500R is good, 250R is average for its CC, but they are similar around 50~60mpg. If I have the money to buy a brand new kapcai, I would rather get any other used bike. Imagine if at the time, you bought a 2nd hand ZZR250 at 7k. Even today, you can sell the bike at the same price. I experience tat also bought a yamaha cup at 800, use for 3 yrs, sell at 600, not much lose money but the repair, the next owner untung lo.... For me if not gonna mod and wanna use for long distance maybe pg to kl to sg, then better get new la... Besides big bike to expensive to mod, exhaust already like few k....
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lms2005	May 19 2014, 10:44 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #266
Regular Senior Member 1,270 posts Joined: May 2005 From: somewhere else	QUOTE(NewGUY @ May 19 2014, 09:36 PM) I experience tat also bought a yamaha cup at 800, use for 3 yrs, sell at 600, not much lose money but the repair, the next owner untung lo.... For me if not gonna mod and wanna use for long distance maybe pg to kl to sg, then better get new la... Besides big bike to expensive to mod, exhaust already like few k.... yamaha cup also can pg to kl to sg
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thianz	May 19 2014, 11:21 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #267
New Member Junior Member 16 posts Joined: Jan 2009	QUOTE(lms2005 @ May 19 2014, 10:44 PM) yamaha cup also can pg to kl to sg penang pun boleh sampai ..... apa lagi sg ......
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NewGUY	May 20 2014, 08:47 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #268
On my way Junior Member 515 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Currently in Selangor	QUOTE(thianz @ May 19 2014, 11:21 PM) penang pun boleh sampai ..... apa lagi sg ...... sampai blh sampai, berapa lama baru sampai.... Boss, u r block how to return u? Finally settle....
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TSalexei	May 20 2014, 11:10 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #269
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	Penang go Sg, ok?
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thianz	May 20 2014, 06:54 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #270
New Member Junior Member 16 posts Joined: Jan 2009	QUOTE(NewGUY @ May 20 2014, 08:47 AM) sampai blh sampai, berapa lama baru sampai.... Boss, u r block how to return u? Finally settle.... depends how urs ball of steel ...... straight ... full tank .. warm up engine ... naik highway ride like a boss ... saw petrol station refill , go pee ..... have a drink ... continue ..... wat happened to my blok ?
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manuel jr	May 21 2014, 03:59 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #271
New Member Junior Member 8 posts Joined: Apr 2014	hye guys...im new here...need some advise...im planning to buy 135lc soon...I have 2 choice...to buy a new bike or should look for 2nd hand bike and do some modification with the extra money...thanks
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thianz	May 22 2014, 01:26 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #272
New Member Junior Member 16 posts Joined: Jan 2009	QUOTE(manuel jr @ May 21 2014, 03:59 PM) hye guys...im new here...need some advise...im planning to buy 135lc soon...I have 2 choice...to buy a new bike or should look for 2nd hand bike and do some modification with the extra money...thanks beli baru jer la .. xpaya modi modi .. sakit dompet jer at the end ....
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NewGUY	May 22 2014, 08:49 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #273
On my way Junior Member 515 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Currently in Selangor	QUOTE(thianz @ May 20 2014, 06:54 PM) depends how urs ball of steel ...... straight ... full tank .. warm up engine ... naik highway ride like a boss ... saw petrol station refill , go pee ..... have a drink ... continue ..... wat happened to my blok ? U say correct ride like boss, how many hrs u can tahan o? I x getting any younger by the day... i show u liao ma, 1 of it leak EO ma... so 1 return u and pay the block i m using lo..
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NewGUY	May 22 2014, 08:53 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #274
On my way Junior Member 515 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Currently in Selangor	QUOTE(thianz @ May 22 2014, 01:26 AM) beli baru jer la .. xpaya modi modi .. sakit dompet jer at the end .... depends la, if got good pomen ok 1.... need to understand wat to mod.... I m satisfy wit my mod.... sakit dompet bcos the shop so hai, sell u fake part and high labor.... if no mod get 250cc, SYM T2 or CBR 250, Kawa 250....this no need to mod lo.... if like mod, x kira old or new u still mod.... so in order to save money better mod 2nd la...
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manuel jr	May 22 2014, 02:23 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #275
New Member Junior Member 8 posts Joined: Apr 2014	QUOTE(NewGUY @ May 22 2014, 08:53 AM) depends la, if got good pomen ok 1.... need to understand wat to mod.... I m satisfy wit my mod.... sakit dompet bcos the shop so hai, sell u fake part and high labor.... if no mod get 250cc, SYM T2 or CBR 250, Kawa 250....this no need to mod lo.... if like mod, x kira old or new u still mod.... so in order to save money better mod 2nd la... is it possible to mod 4 speed to 5 speed transmission...? This post has been edited by manuel jr: May 22 2014, 02:24 PM
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thianz	May 22 2014, 03:53 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #276
New Member Junior Member 16 posts Joined: Jan 2009	QUOTE(NewGUY @ May 22 2014, 08:49 AM) U say correct ride like boss, how many hrs u can tahan o? I x getting any younger by the day... i show u liao ma, 1 of it leak EO ma... so 1 return u and pay the block i m using lo.. oh oh .... QUOTE(NewGUY @ May 22 2014, 08:53 AM) depends la, if got good pomen ok 1.... need to understand wat to mod.... I m satisfy wit my mod.... sakit dompet bcos the shop so hai, sell u fake part and high labor.... if no mod get 250cc, SYM T2 or CBR 250, Kawa 250....this no need to mod lo.... if like mod, x kira old or new u still mod.... so in order to save money better mod 2nd la... if got liao 250 .. still will gatal kacau juga ..... QUOTE(manuel jr @ May 22 2014, 02:23 PM) is it possible to mod 4 speed to 5 speed transmission...? for wat ? extra gear extra power ???
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piju	May 23 2014, 03:03 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #277
Getting Started Junior Member 164 posts Joined: Feb 2008	QUOTE(alexei @ May 19 2014, 02:39 PM) pijuI know it's 1 5/8 turn for the VM carb, not sure for BS carb. I'll need to look at its service manual to tell if that is true or not, which I don't have. Do you have its service manual, since you own one? IMO, factory setting is usually richer, so that the bikes produced are more likely to run smoothly. Keep this page for your reference: http://www.zrxoa.org/webpages/techinfo/carb/carbtuning.html bro alexei, i dont have the service manual. only owners manual. there are no topic on adjusting the fuel or air mixture for the carburetor. only idle screw (1300 - 1500 RPM) using a tachometer. i searched on google, and didnt found any softcopy of new yamaha lc service manual. perhaps, anybody here could help by telling the fuel screw stock setting for new yamaha lc ?
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cahayamalamku	May 26 2014, 10:57 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #278
Getting Started Junior Member 171 posts Joined: Mar 2008 From: earth	QUOTE(NewGUY @ May 19 2014, 04:35 PM) mine now only get 31.5km on average.... top for mine I expect not more than 145km/h HP not more than 25HP, LC about 130kg... so, for full tank of 4.0l can go up to around 126km? if you don't mind sharing, what is your average distance travelled for a full tank? is it a good idea to wear a full face helmet if riding this bike? i have never saw someone who ride a moped wearing full face helmet... only saw those who ride scooters are using full face motocross helmet.
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TSalexei	May 26 2014, 11:05 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #279
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	cahayamalamkuto protect your face is up to you. I've seen quite regularly people wear fullface while riding moped. more common these days, since it's affordable, budget models like MHR, LS2, Greyfosh etc. motocross helmet i tried before, with visor, made me pening, and wind resistance quite bad.
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gonth	May 28 2014, 12:54 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #280
New Member Junior Member 16 posts Joined: Sep 2009	hi lc135 5s user here all stock except tyres....
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TSalexei	May 29 2014, 12:27 AM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #281
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(gonth @ May 28 2014, 12:54 AM) hi lc135 5s user here all stock except tyres.... Welcome...
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piju	May 30 2014, 02:37 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #282
Getting Started Junior Member 164 posts Joined: Feb 2008	bro alexei, i have found the manual for MIKUNI BS25 carburetor on NEW YAMAHA 135 LC. now i am very sure that my previous setup is 100% same as written on the manual. like i said before, i get high RPM on 2 and half turns and i turn it more and my total turns out is 2 and 3/4 turns. looking to the manual for new yamaha lc v2, it is the same value. i also looked at yamaha lc v1 which is mikuni vm22. it is 1 5/8 turns out for yamaha 135 v1 MIKUNI VM22 and 2 3/4 turns out for yamaha 135 v2 MIKUNI BS25. I asked few people from another forum, they said for VM22 you can try to use 2 1/4 turns out or 2 1/2 turns out for optimal setting. for BS25, you can also try 2 1/2 turns out but the best i have tried is 2 3/4 turns out. This post has been edited by piju: May 30 2014, 04:29 PM
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TSalexei	May 30 2014, 06:32 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #283
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	pijuGreat. Do you have link to the manual? I'll pin it in first page.
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piju	May 31 2014, 02:14 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #284
Getting Started Junior Member 164 posts Joined: Feb 2008	QUOTE(alexei @ May 30 2014, 06:32 PM) pijuGreat. Do you have link to the manual? I'll pin it in first page. it is not exactly the manual for YAMAHA 135 LC, it is manual for SNIPER MX. In my opinion, both of them are using MIKUNI BS25 and i think the pilot screw turns out is applicable to NEW YAMAHA 135 LC or some people call is V2 135 LC. http://www.2shared.com/document/v66UeVTW/S...l-StreetMo.html btw bro alexei, as far as i think, some people will satisfied with 2 3/4 turns out and some people will satisfied with 2 1/2 turns. Depending on their living places, Atmospheric pressure, humidity, temperature. so the best setting with stock air filter is between 2 1/2 - 2 3/4 turns. This post has been edited by piju: Jun 1 2014, 01:52 AM
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Mr.CoMoT	Jun 1 2014, 02:40 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #285
Manchester United <3 Senior Member 1,504 posts Joined: Jul 2010 From: Rasa?	New user here.. LC135SS anything that i should not do to my new bike? Its really truth about the PANTANG things?? Currently maximum speed 80-90.. Never touch 100 yet..sked bcos still new..hmm
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NewGUY	Jun 1 2014, 07:18 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #286
On my way Junior Member 515 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Currently in Selangor	QUOTE(manuel jr @ May 22 2014, 02:23 PM) is it possible to mod 4 speed to 5 speed transmission...? New LC got the whole set where u can add extra gear... I x remember u can add 5 or 6 gear....
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NewGUY	Jun 1 2014, 07:20 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #287
On my way Junior Member 515 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Currently in Selangor	QUOTE(cahayamalamku @ May 26 2014, 10:57 AM) so, for full tank of 4.0l can go up to around 126km? if you don't mind sharing, what is your average distance travelled for a full tank? is it a good idea to wear a full face helmet if riding this bike? i have never saw someone who ride a moped wearing full face helmet... only saw those who ride scooters are using full face motocross helmet. already tell, why u ask la? is that not the answer...
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TSalexei	Jun 2 2014, 11:11 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #288
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(Mr.CoMoT @ Jun 1 2014, 02:40 PM) New user here.. LC135SS anything that i should not do to my new bike? Its really truth about the PANTANG things?? Currently maximum speed 80-90.. Never touch 100 yet..sked bcos still new..hmm Welcome to the ownership club. DiaSil block don't really pantang, but IMO it is more for other mechanical parts as well, like the crankshaft bearing, camshaft, etc... the pantang is more on engine load and RPM, not really speed. Also, view page 1 for all the info you'll need. Videos on hard break in included there.
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lms2005	Jun 2 2014, 11:34 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #289
Regular Senior Member 1,270 posts Joined: May 2005 From: somewhere else	front cover (cover horn) for lc v2 2012 & 2014 is it same?
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NewGUY	Jun 2 2014, 04:39 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #290
On my way Junior Member 515 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Currently in Selangor	QUOTE(lms2005 @ Jun 2 2014, 11:34 AM) front cover (cover horn) for lc v2 2012 & 2014 is it same? not same
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NewGUY	Jun 2 2014, 04:41 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #291
On my way Junior Member 515 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Currently in Selangor	FYI Kawazaki 150RR already EOL few months day... 125ZR EOL this year end, bye bye 2 stroke except old bike... Kawazaki 250cc single piston price at 17k....still overprice....
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TSalexei	Jun 2 2014, 05:14 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #292
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	Buy LC, can beat KR150 and Ninja 250. QUOTE » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « mxZzECSecew
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thianz	Jun 2 2014, 05:35 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #293
New Member Junior Member 16 posts Joined: Jan 2009	QUOTE(alexei @ Jun 2 2014, 05:14 PM) Buy LC, can beat KR150 and Ninja 250. obviously the kr150 tak tau pandu la ...
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azdilaamizwar	Jun 2 2014, 07:08 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #294
New Member Junior Member 38 posts Joined: Mar 2010	just want to ask, anyone using shell rimula r4x (HDEO) on their 135lc? any review or comments regarding this EO? Thanks
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thianz	Jun 2 2014, 07:25 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #295
New Member Junior Member 16 posts Joined: Jan 2009	QUOTE(azdilaamizwar @ Jun 2 2014, 07:08 PM) just want to ask, anyone using shell rimula r4x (HDEO) on their 135lc? any review or comments regarding this EO? Thanks me .... macam biasa .. pls warm up engine baru bergerak
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azdilaamizwar	Jun 2 2014, 09:14 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #296
New Member Junior Member 38 posts Joined: Mar 2010	QUOTE(thianz @ Jun 2 2014, 07:25 PM) me .... macam biasa .. pls warm up engine baru bergerak any negative side effects?
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TSalexei	Jun 2 2014, 09:43 PM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #297
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	I use R3x on my 2stroke.
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thianz	Jun 2 2014, 09:45 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #298
New Member Junior Member 16 posts Joined: Jan 2009	QUOTE(alexei @ Jun 2 2014, 09:43 PM) I use R3x on my 2stroke. clutch no slip on high speed?
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TSalexei	Jun 2 2014, 09:46 PM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #299
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(azdilaamizwar @ Jun 2 2014, 09:14 PM) any negative side effects? Side effect is, it is so much cheaper compared to motorcycle EO and it makes you worry. You don't believe the quality is so much better in comparison. Then, you notice some weird sound, and you blame the EO. And, after a while, anything also macam tak betul, and you blame the EO... Just kidding. Please read first page about recommended EO for bikes. R4x is similar to Shell Rotella.
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TSalexei	Jun 2 2014, 09:48 PM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #300
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(thianz @ Jun 2 2014, 09:45 PM) clutch no slip on high speed? I don't go very fast. New clutch plates. R3x don't have friction modifier. If clutch slip, most likely the rider fault, not the oil.
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thianz	Jun 2 2014, 09:50 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #301
New Member Junior Member 16 posts Joined: Jan 2009	QUOTE(alexei @ Jun 2 2014, 09:48 PM) I don't go very fast. New clutch plates. R3x don't have friction modifier. If clutch slip, most likely the rider fault, not the oil. try vroom vroom 1 round let me know ....
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TSalexei	Jun 2 2014, 11:10 PM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #302
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(thianz @ Jun 2 2014, 09:50 PM) try vroom vroom 1 round let me know .... You having clutch slippage?
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thianz	Jun 3 2014, 03:41 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #303
New Member Junior Member 16 posts Joined: Jan 2009	QUOTE(alexei @ Jun 2 2014, 11:10 PM) You having clutch slippage? alittle bit whn aggressive style start pickup ... just make sure EO temperature is warm be4 moving .... slip feeling sudah tiada ...
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Mr.CoMoT	Jun 3 2014, 07:30 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #304
Manchester United <3 Senior Member 1,504 posts Joined: Jul 2010 From: Rasa?	yesterday..not heavy rain..but road basah & licin.. break then tergolek..ekzos scratch already... today break emergency..coz got sohai ppl driving..no signal..just change lane..almost tergolek also.nasib boleh kawal.. so my question is..is really2 LC tyre very licin??? i think its time to change tyre la..whats best?? my lc is 1 week old
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thianz	Jun 3 2014, 10:38 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #305
New Member Junior Member 16 posts Joined: Jan 2009	QUOTE(Mr.CoMoT @ Jun 3 2014, 07:30 PM) yesterday..not heavy rain..but road basah & licin.. break then tergolek..ekzos scratch already... today break emergency..coz got sohai ppl driving..no signal..just change lane..almost tergolek also.nasib boleh kawal.. so my question is..is really2 LC tyre very licin??? i think its time to change tyre la..whats best?? my lc is 1 week old apa brand tyre oh ? pakai battlax pun kenot 100% brake on time la ... road basah & licin
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Mr.CoMoT	Jun 3 2014, 11:04 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #306
Manchester United <3 Senior Member 1,504 posts Joined: Jul 2010 From: Rasa?	QUOTE(thianz @ Jun 3 2014, 10:38 PM) apa brand tyre oh ? pakai battlax pun kenot 100% brake on time la ... road basah & licin duro if tak salah..
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TSalexei	Jun 3 2014, 11:06 PM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #307
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	Mr.CoMoTsad to hear. when you fall the first time, did the tyre kena the road stripes? please avoid road stripes when wet, even when you're going straight. the second incident, during an emergency braking on a straight line, how is it possible that you can tergolek? is it becoz the front tyre slipped? or the rear tyre? what kind of bike did u use to ride? maybe you're not used to the new brakes on LC?
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Mr.CoMoT	Jun 3 2014, 11:16 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #308
Manchester United <3 Senior Member 1,504 posts Joined: Jul 2010 From: Rasa?	QUOTE(alexei @ Jun 3 2014, 11:06 PM) Mr.CoMoTsad to hear. when you fall the first time, did the tyre kena the road stripes? please avoid road stripes when wet, even when you're going straight. the second incident, during an emergency braking on a straight line, how is it possible that you can tergolek? is it becoz the front tyre slipped? or the rear tyre? what kind of bike did u use to ride? maybe you're not used to the new brakes on LC? yeah,. i think in road stripes(if not wrong la..i hit rear brake..then front..then cant control already.. ..suddeny got ppl lintas..haiz.. second is rear.i just push the rear brake..then motor goyang2 already....yeah..just got a license.. first ride on LC summore.. i think my brake skill is 1/10...
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piju	Jun 3 2014, 11:46 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #309
Getting Started Junior Member 164 posts Joined: Feb 2008	bro alexei my experiment on MIKUNI BS25. after day and day trying to get optimum setting for this carburetor, i have found that 3 turns of pilot screw is the best setting for acceleration also cold start. i have tried 2 1/2, 2 3/4 and 2 5/8 turns out. throttle response is better than stock setting written on service manual which is 2 and 3/4 turns out. since the pilot screw for mikuni bs25 is controlling both air and fuel, not controlling the air or fuel only. i think 3 turns out is the optimum setting for it. my opinion, if anybody wants to get better result on top speed, maybe they need to consider rejetting the carburetor since pilot screw only affecting idle and first step of acceleration. which is not in my mind at the moment. because i think that rejetting the carb only is not an economical wise choice. we need to consider changing the piston and block size, bigger valves, harden valve springs, high lift or high duration camshaft, bigger intake manifold, bigger exhaust, high output ignition coil, sprockets ratio and so on to make them balanced each others since they are related to each others. to those who wants to make a light modifications for better performance than factory setting to their yamaha lc v2, my suggestion is :- 1. resetting your stock pilot screw setting on your carburetor 2. play around which your sprocket ratio ( this setting is vary from people to people since our body weight is different ) 3. change to bigger size exhaust, but not too big. maximum size is +6mm than stock exhaust. 28mm is maximum. 4. change to lighter sprocket and drive chain. 5. change to smaller tyre size. if you ride less than 100kmh daily, better use 10w 40 semi synthetic. more than 100kmh daily, better use 15w 50. bro alexei, i once read about using fully synthetic for wet clutch systems is a bad thing to do. could you please clarify this to me ? because now i'm using petronas synthium moto 10w 50 fully sintetik. but sometimes i use belray 15w 50 semi sintetik with additional of STP oil treatment. thanks This post has been edited by piju: Jun 4 2014, 12:03 AM
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lms2005	Jun 4 2014, 06:41 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #310
Regular Senior Member 1,270 posts Joined: May 2005 From: somewhere else	QUOTE(piju @ Jun 3 2014, 11:46 PM) if you ride less than 100kmh daily, better use 10w 40 semi synthetic. more than 100kmh daily, better use 15w 50. bro alexei, i once read about using fully synthetic for wet clutch systems is a bad thing to do. could you please clarify this to me ? because now i'm using petronas synthium moto 10w 50 fully sintetik. but sometimes i use belray 15w 50 semi sintetik with additional of STP oil treatment. thanks I use hdeo Avoid fully if full throttle everyday
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TSalexei	Jun 4 2014, 10:28 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #311
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	- quoted by piju below - This post has been edited by alexei: Jun 4 2014, 01:58 PM
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piju	Jun 4 2014, 01:24 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #312
Getting Started Junior Member 164 posts Joined: Feb 2008	QUOTE(alexei @ Jun 4 2014, 10:28 AM) piju Thanks for your contribution to the thread, and detailed update. I hope others here will benefit from your guide. Post is pinned. I think BS25 pilot screw is fuel jet. So, the more you open or turn counter-clockwise, the more fuel will be mixed. In other words, reduce air-fuel ratio, making the pilot circuit richer. The amount of air is constant, based on throttle opening. Don't forget, not to mess with air filter for BS25. Exhaust tuning is a different animal. The size is just a part of it. The tuning involves measuring the port timing, and deciding the 'tune' for each sections of the pipe. A bad exhaust can over draw fresh air through the intake port to the exhaust, or block exhaust gas from exiting the exhaust port... Smaller tyre is not a measure of performance, think safety first. Also, suspension and brakes system. For EO, I will always point you to first page, for the recommended oil link. In my personal experience, is not to use a viscosity higher than factory recommendation. Imagine this: - Higher viscosity oil needs high pressure to flow at the same rate than a lower viscosity oil. Since you're not increasing oil pressure, you may cause oil starve in some areas... - High viscosity oil is harder to go through small clearance gap. - High viscosity oil does not necessary have higher film strength for surface protection. Oil quality does. For synthetic vs semi vs mineral in a wet clutch system, you need to point out the source, as I haven't heard of this. What I know is there should not be friction modifiers, or things like moly additive, which could cause clutch slip. As for oil treatment, consider this, 4 stroke bike EO works from the engine head to the gearbox. The mechanical stress to the oil is harsher than car. Should you add a car EO additive to your bike? As for HDEO, it is designed for diesel engines. Diesel engine is high stress low (<6k) RPM engine. As for bike, they run at relatively higher RPM than diesel engines, up to 8k. Based on their design use case, should you use HDEO in a bike? bro alexei, for my personal opinion, moped is not designed to be ride for a long and hard journey. moped is designed to be use for short distance. if we use our moped for a long journey daily, i think we need to use higher viscosity oil or higher grade rather than using what is written on service manual. as long as the oil is for bike, not for car or truck. i once go to hong leong yamaha at sungai buloh near my work place. i asked the mechanic, what is the best oil for yamaha 135 lc ? he said depends on your purposes. what he mean is, if we ride long and far journey daily, better use fully syntethic and higher viscosity. i am absolutely not going to use any of car oil treatment on my motocycle. i only use STP which is for motocycle. dont get confuse with my earlier post. oil treatment for motocycle has only low value of zinc dialyldithiophosphate to prevent wear on your engine. car oil treatment has higher value which is not good for motocycle since higher value of it can increase wear. like i already said, the keyword is balance. a more of something can be good but the too much of something doesnt mean good. about the tyre, i dont recommend any of SOTONG tyre. front 80/90, rear 90/80 is already good for normal usage. what i think the best is, front 80/90 and rear 90/90. but it is too hard to find 90/90 tyre. HDEO is not suitable for motocycle since it has more zinc dialyldithiophosphate. suitable for heavy duty engine like truck or lorry which running on diesel engine and has no catalytic converter. btw, bro alexei. since yamaha 135 lc has its own oil filtering medium, i installed uma racing bypass valve replacing my oil tank cap to relieve the pressure inside my engine. as stated on uma racing website, "This product has many benefits. Firstly, the UMAbreather valve is used to replace the original motor oil tank cap to relieve pressure in the engine. As known, engine oil goes through the filtering medium, so it is important to ensure that the pressure loss in the filter does not exceed. This is why the bypass valve in place. If the pressure is incorrect, then the valve will open automatically, allowing oil to bypass the filtering system and balancing the oil pressures. By controlling the engine pressures, the bypass valve can help the engine to run longer and work efficiently. In the long run, it significantly prolongs the engine life. On the other hand, it can speed up the oil heating especially when the engine is cold, and it will cool faster when the engine is off. Therefore, this product will give you steady and better warm-up RPM. Additionally, with good ventilation, the oil will stay cleaner for longer period. Besides, the breather valve is also efficient in removing small particles and soot through breather hose. It ensures the engine oil will continue to flow even when the filter has clogged. The bypass valve opening is the only way to keep the motor from becoming oil-starved if the filter becomes clogged. Therefore, the Uma Racing high performance bypass valve not only will greatly reduce the engine pressure, but it allows you to ride with worry-free." This post has been edited by piju: Jun 4 2014, 01:34 PM
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piju	Jun 4 2014, 01:51 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #313
Getting Started Junior Member 164 posts Joined: Feb 2008	i want to share about my yamaha 135 lc headlamp. stock bulb is stanley 32 watts. after 1 year usage, the bulb is getting darker. i opened the bulb and see that the glass part of the bulb is full of burn deposit. i went to a shop in pandan indah, and bought new bulb. OSRAM 35 watts. now my headlamp light is brighter than before. better than stanley. maybe you guy can try OSRAM 35 watts. it has different colours too. i want to change my fog lamp bulbs, anybody tried faito H.I.D. Mini Bulb? This post has been edited by piju: Jun 4 2014, 01:55 PM
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piju	Jun 5 2014, 12:01 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #314
Getting Started Junior Member 164 posts Joined: Feb 2008	if there anyone here who has a 2011 yamaha lc. you can try 3 turns out of pilot screw for your MIKUNI BS25 carburetor and you will feel the different between stock setting. try it and post your result here.
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thianz	Jun 5 2014, 04:38 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #315
New Member Junior Member 16 posts Joined: Jan 2009	QUOTE(piju @ Jun 5 2014, 12:01 PM) if there anyone here who has a 2011 yamaha lc. you can try 3 turns out of pilot screw for your MIKUNI BS25 carburetor and you will feel the different between stock setting. try it and post your result here. if 3 turn check ur plug color ..... stock setting below 2 turn ...
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piju	Jun 5 2014, 07:28 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #316
Getting Started Junior Member 164 posts Joined: Feb 2008	QUOTE(thianz @ Jun 5 2014, 04:38 PM) if 3 turn check ur plug color ..... stock setting below 2 turn ... below 2 ? the service manual said 2 and 3/4.
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TSalexei	Jun 5 2014, 10:26 PM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #317
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	pijuAbout oil viscosity, here's what I found, and you'll have to read through it a little bit, hope it will answer some of your questions or provide new perspective: Bob is the oil guy Motorcycle Oil Page The important thing is the first table and the last column, "high shear viscosity". - The value of 15W-40, 20W-40, 25W-40 and and xxW-50 are the same at 3.7cP. - To me, this means that I should be using this grade of xxW-40 EO, for the same level of engine protection of a xxW-50 EO. - This type of xxW-40 EO, will have the benefit of lower viscosity, hence, better at flowing, removing heat from engine parts, and lower self heat generation, compared to xxW-50 EO. This post has been edited by alexei: Jun 5 2014, 11:45 PM
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TSalexei	Jun 5 2014, 11:48 PM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #318
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	Riding safety: QUOTE Many riders will tell you to wear bright orange or red clothing, and to get a device that flashes your headlight. Personally, I disagree with this: I believe that when car drivers see me, they steer for me. It's that "you go where you look" thing. I'd rather be invisible and completely responsible for my own safety. However, I note that most riding instructors will disagree with this and tell you to do everything you can to get the attention of other drivers. You'll have to make your own call on this. One thing on which the MSF instructors and I will readily agree: if your safety program is to hope and believe that car drivers will look out for you, you are going to be a statistic. On a motorcycle, defensive and predictive driving is everything. Source: http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/MotorcycleIntro4.html
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piju	Jun 6 2014, 01:01 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #319
Getting Started Junior Member 164 posts Joined: Feb 2008	QUOTE(alexei @ Jun 5 2014, 10:26 PM) pijuAbout oil viscosity, here's what I found, and you'll have to read through it a little bit, hope it will answer some of your questions or provide new perspective: Bob is the oil guy Motorcycle Oil Page The important thing is the first table and the last column, "high shear viscosity". - The value of 15W-40, 20W-40, 25W-40 and and xxW-50 are the same at 3.7cP. - To me, this means that I should be using this grade of xxW-40 EO, for the same level of engine protection of a xxW-50 EO. - This type of xxW-40 EO, will have the benefit of lower viscosity, hence, better at flowing, removing heat from engine parts, and lower self heat generation, compared to xxW-50 EO. bro alexei, seems like 10w 40 protecting the engine same as 15w 50 but 10w 40 has lower value of Kinematic Viscosity (cSt) at 100°C Max. 10w has more advantage on Low-Temp (°C) Cranking Viscosity, cP Max at 3500 @ -20 degrees which is i dont think that we have that temperature here in Malaysia. but 15w 50 has advantage on Kinematic Viscosity (cSt) at 100°C Max ( below our engine's operating temperature ). both 10w 40 and 15w 50 has the same value for High Shear Viscosity (cP) at 150°C Min which i also dont think that our engine reaches that temperature too. i prefer more protection below 100 degrees. referring to the service manual, both 20w 50 and 20w 40 can be use on yamaha 135 lc 2011. the lower "W" value is optional.
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TSalexei	Jun 6 2014, 04:56 PM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #320
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	pijuyou're reading the table wrongly. 10W-40 has lower shear force, than 15W-40. 15W-40 has similar shear force requirements to a 15W-50. Viscosity numbers, the lower the lighter, faster heat transfer, lesser internal friction and self heat generation.
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piju	Jun 8 2014, 05:07 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #321
Getting Started Junior Member 164 posts Joined: Feb 2008	QUOTE(alexei @ Jun 6 2014, 04:56 PM) pijuyou're reading the table wrongly. 10W-40 has lower shear force, than 15W-40. 15W-40 has similar shear force requirements to a 15W-50. Viscosity numbers, the lower the lighter, faster heat transfer, lesser internal friction and self heat generation. both 50 and 40 can be use with yamaha lc. i wonder why the manual mention 50 first and then 40 next.
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jern25	Jun 9 2014, 03:26 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #322
Enthusiast Senior Member 827 posts Joined: Dec 2011	hi guys. is there any of us are using/ have experience to use Michelin Pilot Street Radial tyres? care to give review on the particular tyres? i've read some review on the internet. maybe just wanna have some personal experience from LC user on this tyres. im planning to change my tyre but in no hurry coz stock tyre still ok. Vee Rubber is quite slippery la on wet surface.
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thianz	Jun 9 2014, 04:32 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #323
New Member Junior Member 16 posts Joined: Jan 2009	QUOTE(jern25 @ Jun 9 2014, 03:26 PM) hi guys. is there any of us are using/ have experience to use Michelin Pilot Street Radial tyres? care to give review on the particular tyres? i've read some review on the internet. maybe just wanna have some personal experience from LC user on this tyres. im planning to change my tyre but in no hurry coz stock tyre still ok. Vee Rubber is quite slippery la on wet surface. pergi survey kedai ada apa brand tyre lagi.. compare harga beza ..,, harga tayar skrg memang gila mahal ..... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « nanti sini kita kata melicin pilot street sedap pakai ..... nanti u pakai melicin pula .. susah ....
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jern25	Jun 9 2014, 05:25 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #324
Enthusiast Senior Member 827 posts Joined: Dec 2011	QUOTE(thianz @ Jun 9 2014, 04:32 PM) pergi survey kedai ada apa brand tyre lagi.. compare harga beza ..,, harga tayar skrg memang gila mahal ..... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « nanti sini kita kata melicin pilot street sedap pakai ..... nanti u pakai melicin pula .. susah .... haha.bab harga mmg gi compare,cumenye nak tau user experience bos.
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TSalexei	Jun 10 2014, 12:25 AM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #325
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(jern25 @ Jun 9 2014, 05:25 PM) haha.bab harga mmg gi compare,cumenye nak tau user experience bos. Slide me couple of times. This is budget tyre. Can't recommend it for grip. Michelin also mention this tyre grip is 2/5. Source: Michelin website This post has been edited by alexei: Jun 10 2014, 12:27 AM
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jern25	Jun 10 2014, 05:00 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #326
Enthusiast Senior Member 827 posts Joined: Dec 2011	QUOTE(alexei @ Jun 10 2014, 12:25 AM) Slide me couple of times. This is budget tyre. Can't recommend it for grip. Michelin also mention this tyre grip is 2/5. Source: Michelin website oh is it? so duro 918 is still one of the better tyre for wet surface is it? have u tried it?
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TSalexei	Jun 10 2014, 05:23 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #327
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(jern25 @ Jun 10 2014, 05:00 PM) oh is it? so duro 918 is still one of the better tyre for wet surface is it? have u tried it? I've tried Duro Racing, but another member said this tyre also not very good in wet. In my experience, no tyres around RM100 is good on wet surface...
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koie06	Jun 11 2014, 02:38 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #328
Getting Started Junior Member 77 posts Joined: Nov 2007	hello guys.. im a new owner of LC 5 Speed. own it around 2month. hope can learn something bout LC here. only change front tire after 1 week owning it..haha..
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TSalexei	Jun 11 2014, 06:18 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #329
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(koie06 @ Jun 11 2014, 02:38 PM) hello guys.. im a new owner of LC 5 Speed. own it around 2month. hope can learn something bout LC here. only change front tire after 1 week owning it..haha.. hello, welcome... if wanna know more things, can check out page one.
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lms2005	Jun 11 2014, 09:36 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #330
Regular Senior Member 1,270 posts Joined: May 2005 From: somewhere else	anyone know where can get lc spray in aerosol spray can?
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thianz	Jun 11 2014, 11:08 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #331
New Member Junior Member 16 posts Joined: Jan 2009	QUOTE(lms2005 @ Jun 11 2014, 09:36 PM) anyone know where can get lc spray in aerosol spray can? kdai hardware , kedai DIY ....
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TSalexei	Jun 11 2014, 11:09 PM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #332
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(lms2005 @ Jun 11 2014, 09:36 PM) anyone know where can get lc spray in aerosol spray can? Not that I know of. You need to know the Yamaha color codes that you want, then get people to mix it. Resources
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koie06	Jun 12 2014, 09:29 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #333
Getting Started Junior Member 77 posts Joined: Nov 2007	i have replace my LC front tyre to 90/80. already alter front mudguard but the tyre still scrubbing my front mudguard when im doing emergency braking. the tyre is not center when braking. folk stabilizer can really solve this problem?
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TSalexei	Jun 12 2014, 10:03 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #334
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(koie06 @ Jun 12 2014, 09:29 AM) i have replace my LC front tyre to 90/80. already alter front mudguard but the tyre still scrubbing my front mudguard when im doing emergency braking. the tyre is not center when braking. folk stabilizer can really solve this problem? Tyre is too big for the stock mudguard, need to replace with others like FZ, IINM. Stock LCES should have a metal bracket under the front mudguard, I know because I salvaged a piece for my future mod. Tyre not center, is it relative to the headlamp? Or relative to the mudguard... please elaborate more.
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koie06	Jun 12 2014, 10:59 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #335
Getting Started Junior Member 77 posts Joined: Nov 2007	the problem come only when braking. the tire & mudguard will misaligned when braking. My LCES 5speed doesnt have metal bracket under front mudguard as im the one who alter the mudguard. Do aftermarket folk stabilizer will solve this issue? will Racing Boy V1 folk stabilizer fit into LC 5S? because i dont like the design of the V2 folk stabilizer. This post has been edited by koie06: Jun 12 2014, 11:26 AM
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zkhin	Jun 12 2014, 01:40 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #336
Getting Started Junior Member 184 posts Joined: Nov 2011	Hi guys. I used to own a 135LC. Now planning to get one with clutch. Is the one with clutch better or not? I had duke 200 for a year so im quite comfortable with clutch. Any suggestions? ty
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lms2005	Jun 12 2014, 02:16 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #337
Regular Senior Member 1,270 posts Joined: May 2005 From: somewhere else	QUOTE(alexei @ Jun 11 2014, 11:09 PM) Not that I know of. You need to know the Yamaha color codes that you want, then get people to mix it. Resources oledi get code from hly, its from nippon paint.. but nippon said its for project use only...
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koie06	Jun 12 2014, 02:17 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #338
Getting Started Junior Member 77 posts Joined: Nov 2007	hi zkhin, just my opinion, hand clutch is less maintenance for long run. dont have to think about autoclutch & autoclutch housing replacement at all. lighter engine rev due to less load to engine. lighter engine = better fuel consumption(but not significant and still depend on how you ride it) but for autoclutch is more relaxing + easy to ride. hehe
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zkhin	Jun 12 2014, 02:24 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #339
Getting Started Junior Member 184 posts Joined: Nov 2011	QUOTE(koie06 @ Jun 12 2014, 02:17 PM) hi zkhin, just my opinion, hand clutch is less maintenance for long run. dont have to think about autoclutch & autoclutch housing replacement at all. lighter engine rev due to less load to engine. lighter engine = better fuel consumption(but not significant and still depend on how you ride it) but for autoclutch is more relaxing + easy to ride. hehe how much did u got ur 135 include insurance and tax?
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cahayamalamku	Jun 12 2014, 02:35 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #340
Getting Started Junior Member 171 posts Joined: Mar 2008 From: earth	QUOTE(koie06 @ Jun 12 2014, 02:17 PM) hi zkhin, just my opinion, hand clutch is less maintenance for long run. dont have to think about autoclutch & autoclutch housing replacement at all. lighter engine rev due to less load to engine. lighter engine = better fuel consumption(but not significant and still depend on how you ride it) but for autoclutch is more relaxing + easy to ride. hehe heard that manual clutch is easier to 'rosak'? my friend told me that but he's riding lc135 ss v1 (auto clutch). not sure about v2.
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TSalexei	Jun 12 2014, 02:58 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #341
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	Manual vs auto is like Cola vs 7-up, both types have their strengths and weaknesses. Technically speaking, auto-clutch generates more clutch dust into the EO, compared to manual clutch. Different viscosity oil affects auto-clutch, too. But, most riders don't feel it. Auto-clutch also have lower end specs (rim size, tyre size, brake type), compared to manual bikes... QUOTE(koie06 @ Jun 12 2014, 10:59 AM) the problem come only when braking. the tire & mudguard will misaligned when braking. My LCES 5speed doesnt have metal bracket under front mudguard as im the one who alter the mudguard. Do aftermarket folk stabilizer will solve this issue? will Racing Boy V1 folk stabilizer fit into LC 5S? because i dont like the design of the V2 folk stabilizer. I think you know very well that it should not behave like that. Can you check if there's a screw loose, or brake disc not tightened? How about the fork T-clamp? Fork stabilizer will hide the issue, not fix it. QUOTE(zkhin @ Jun 12 2014, 01:40 PM) Hi guys. I used to own a 135LC. Now planning to get one with clutch. Is the one with clutch better or not? I had duke 200 for a year so im quite comfortable with clutch. Any suggestions? ty How is Duke 200? Any reason you're considering LC? QUOTE(lms2005 @ Jun 12 2014, 02:16 PM) oledi get code from hly, its from nippon paint.. but nippon said its for project use only... I don't think there is, but you can try ACE Hardware. Sometimes they have aerosol paint for bikes.
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koie06	Jun 12 2014, 03:11 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #342
Getting Started Junior Member 77 posts Joined: Nov 2007	alexei, yes, it should not behave like that. its like 1 of the folk is softer than the other. so, u think its better to put in folk stabilizer or try to search for other permanent solution? any ideas? all LC having issue on front folk? -to check, pull front brake and push ur bike forward. see how the tire & mudguard moving, is it center or the tire will move a bit to the right.
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koie06	Jun 12 2014, 03:13 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #343
Getting Started Junior Member 77 posts Joined: Nov 2007	QUOTE(zkhin @ Jun 12 2014, 02:24 PM) how much did u got ur 135 include insurance and tax? i think its around RM7400 otr price. im taking loan with AEON. D/P : RM1800 Monthly : RM322 Duration : 2years
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lms2005	Jun 12 2014, 04:31 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #344
Regular Senior Member 1,270 posts Joined: May 2005 From: somewhere else	QUOTE(koie06 @ Jun 12 2014, 03:13 PM) i think its around RM7400 otr price. im taking loan with AEON. D/P : RM1800 Monthly : RM322 Duration : 2years i bought 7k cash w/o insu & rtax related charges.. insu around 35x (25%ncd)
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TSalexei	Jun 12 2014, 05:43 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #345
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(koie06 @ Jun 12 2014, 03:11 PM) alexei, yes, it should not behave like that. its like 1 of the folk is softer than the other. so, u think its better to put in folk stabilizer or try to search for other permanent solution? any ideas? all LC having issue on front folk? -to check, pull front brake and push ur bike forward. see how the tire & mudguard moving, is it center or the tire will move a bit to the right. Maybe the fork oil level not same on both sides... check everything.
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zkhin	Jun 12 2014, 07:03 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #346
Getting Started Junior Member 184 posts Joined: Nov 2011	QUOTE(cahayamalamku @ Jun 12 2014, 02:35 PM) heard that manual clutch is easier to 'rosak'? my friend told me that but he's riding lc135 ss v1 (auto clutch). not sure about v2. v1 is the old 135 lc? or the current model has 2 versions?
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zkhin	Jun 12 2014, 07:06 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #347
Getting Started Junior Member 184 posts Joined: Nov 2011	QUOTE(alexei @ Jun 12 2014, 02:58 PM) How is Duke 200? Any reason you're considering LC? Dad sold it off and got a duke 690. I just graduated so maintaining that duke200 itself is a problem. So now planning to get one for city ride, i ride a lot around. I prefer the clutch one actually. So it is good compared to non clutch ones?
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TSalexei	Jun 12 2014, 10:08 PM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #348
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(zkhin @ Jun 12 2014, 07:06 PM) Dad sold it off and got a duke 690. I just graduated so maintaining that duke200 itself is a problem. So now planning to get one for city ride, i ride a lot around. I prefer the clutch one actually. So it is good compared to non clutch ones? fwah. I'd say it'd be better for you to get manual ES, over auto SS.
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zkhin	Jun 12 2014, 10:25 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #349
Getting Started Junior Member 184 posts Joined: Nov 2011	QUOTE(alexei @ Jun 12 2014, 10:08 PM) fwah. I'd say it'd be better for you to get manual ES, over auto SS. btw i realise there's a gp edition for 135 lc. is there any difference compared to normal ones except the cover set? Saw one in the shop just now
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TSalexei	Jun 13 2014, 12:08 AM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #350
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(zkhin @ Jun 12 2014, 10:25 PM) btw i realise there's a gp edition for 135 lc. is there any difference compared to normal ones except the cover set? Saw one in the shop just now color only, as far as I can gather...
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zkhin	Jun 13 2014, 03:46 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #351
Getting Started Junior Member 184 posts Joined: Nov 2011	QUOTE(alexei @ Jun 13 2014, 12:08 AM) color only, as far as I can gather... Any idea where to get the Audi like front like for lc? How much does it cost? Is it easy to assemble myself?
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TSalexei	Jun 13 2014, 07:12 AM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #352
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(zkhin @ Jun 13 2014, 03:46 AM) Any idea where to get the Audi like front like for lc? How much does it cost? Is it easy to assemble myself? what is 'Audi like front like'? Do you mean light? Or something else? I don't think I know, best guess would be accessories shops?
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koie06	Jun 13 2014, 08:47 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #353
Getting Started Junior Member 77 posts Joined: Nov 2007	u mean this light? Front Light for LC ES V2 previous and current model got different with front signal light and front cover set. current model light is bigger. please compare 1st. LC ES 5speed engine is noisier than autoclutch. got "kok, kok, kok" sound. but its normal i guess. Comparison of front coverset shape (Above is current model & below is the previous model): This post has been edited by koie06: Jun 13 2014, 11:39 AM
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zkhin	Jun 13 2014, 12:22 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #354
Getting Started Junior Member 184 posts Joined: Nov 2011	QUOTE(koie06 @ Jun 13 2014, 08:47 AM) u mean this light? Front Light for LC ES V2 previous and current model got different with front signal light and front cover set. current model light is bigger. please compare 1st. LC ES 5speed engine is noisier than autoclutch. got "kok, kok, kok" sound. but its normal i guess. Comparison of front coverset shape (Above is current model & below is the previous model): Yes around that kind. But I saw a lot more colours one. Damn nice. Just heard from a friend the new 5s is not as powerful as it used to be is 4s isit true?
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koie06	Jun 13 2014, 12:30 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #355
Getting Started Junior Member 77 posts Joined: Nov 2007	what i heard meter reading for V1 & V2 is different. example: V1 140kmh = V2 120kmh for V2 5S tested with my brother Duke390: V2 5S 80kmh = Duke390 80kmh correct me if im wrong about V1 & V2.
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spadecrew	Jun 13 2014, 02:41 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #356
Getting Started Junior Member 154 posts Joined: Jul 2008 From: shah alam	hi there...any shop recomended in s.alam to service and modified anything?
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koie06	Jun 13 2014, 03:09 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #357
Getting Started Junior Member 77 posts Joined: Nov 2007	U can visit YYPang at sec 25 (maybe a bit pricey) if u dont mind to come to KL, i personally recommend Green Motive Extreme at sentul or u can go to RedSpeed at wangsa setia 3. This post has been edited by koie06: Jun 13 2014, 03:13 PM
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yanmokhtar	Jun 13 2014, 03:35 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #358
New Member Junior Member 12 posts Joined: Jul 2010	Hello friends, this is my 1st posting since following this forum from 2009 This post has been edited by yanmokhtar: Jun 13 2014, 03:38 PM
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koie06	Jun 13 2014, 04:03 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #359
Getting Started Junior Member 77 posts Joined: Nov 2007	QUOTE(yanmokhtar @ Jun 13 2014, 03:35 PM) Hello friends, this is my 1st posting since following this forum from 2009 welcome sifu.. This post has been edited by koie06: Jun 13 2014, 04:04 PM
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zkhin	Jun 13 2014, 05:33 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #360
Getting Started Junior Member 184 posts Joined: Nov 2011	A shop quoted me RM7500 for the gp edition. the price already included insurance and tax?
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koie06	Jun 13 2014, 09:26 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #361
Getting Started Junior Member 77 posts Joined: Nov 2007	please ask for year of manufacture. as i've been inform by the sales men at the bike shop, GP edition for 2014 is not come out yet. usually launch around October and this year dont know yamaha choose which model for GP Edition. but dont believe on me 100% because im not working with Hong Leong Yamaha..haha
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TSalexei	Jun 13 2014, 09:28 PM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #362
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	yanmokhtarwelcome indeed... let me know if you wanted to be added as owner's list. zkhinThe price, need to ask. If included, I think worth it. V2 uses BS carb, V1 uses VM carb. The power delivery is different, with the V2 being smoother. Which version more powerful, they are same engine from factory, difference would depend on tuning. Back few page, you'll see piju journey on carb tuning. This post has been edited by alexei: Jun 13 2014, 09:30 PM
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zkhin	Jun 13 2014, 10:33 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #363
Getting Started Junior Member 184 posts Joined: Nov 2011	@koie06 i know it is not the 2014 edition. @alexei i think should be included, because he quoted me 7.3k for normal es. If im not wrong i saw the headlight with the orange side lights. So in conclusion it is better to get the v2 one right? But the es colour on v2 dont look as good as it used to be one white/red =(
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lms2005	Jun 14 2014, 12:15 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #364
Regular Senior Member 1,270 posts Joined: May 2005 From: somewhere else	regarding brake pad for lc5s... the front one is it same with lagenda 2piston one? the rear one same with any model? lc4s front?
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NoobboyZzZ	Jun 14 2014, 03:51 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #365
Casual Junior Member 317 posts Joined: Apr 2010 From: cheras	QUOTE(lms2005 @ Jun 14 2014, 12:15 AM) regarding brake pad for lc5s... the front one is it same with lagenda 2piston one? the rear one same with any model? lc4s front? 125z for front and rear same thing sight have an accident with my lc bike not much problem but t-fork macam sudah gg and broke my collar bone in the same time sleep at hospital for 5day This post has been edited by NoobboyZzZ: Jun 14 2014, 03:54 AM
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TSalexei	Jun 14 2014, 01:14 PM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #366
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	zkhinbetter or not I don't know lor, but spare part become very unique, harder to find? NoobboyZzZwhen was that? just recently?
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thianz	Jun 14 2014, 03:02 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #367
New Member Junior Member 16 posts Joined: Jan 2009	QUOTE(NoobboyZzZ @ Jun 14 2014, 03:51 AM) 125z for front and rear same thing sight have an accident with my lc bike not much problem but t-fork macam sudah gg and broke my collar bone in the same time sleep at hospital for 5day show la tht scar pic .. baru macho
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NoobboyZzZ	Jun 14 2014, 06:00 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #368
Casual Junior Member 317 posts Joined: Apr 2010 From: cheras	QUOTE(alexei @ Jun 14 2014, 01:14 PM) zkhinbetter or not I don't know lor, but spare part become very unique, harder to find? NoobboyZzZwhen was that? just recently? last 2 week now in recovering mode going 90kmh sudden rear wheel belayang layang then jatuh ,
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Itsuki_Kun	Jun 14 2014, 08:27 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #369
Getting Started Junior Member 54 posts Joined: Apr 2010 From: Turtle Island	Apa masalah apabila diorg pasang tayar terbalik...? ada apa2 akan jadi tak..?
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TSalexei	Jun 14 2014, 08:35 PM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #370
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(NoobboyZzZ @ Jun 14 2014, 06:00 PM) last 2 week now in recovering mode going 90kmh sudden rear wheel belayang layang then jatuh , Rear tyre pancit? or kena minyak? QUOTE(Itsuki_Kun @ Jun 14 2014, 08:27 PM) Apa masalah apabila diorg pasang tayar terbalik...? ada apa2 akan jadi tak..? wah, long time no see... if terbalik, as in rotation terbalik, when kena water, the tayar is easier to aqua plane.
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Itsuki_Kun	Jun 14 2014, 08:39 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #371
Getting Started Junior Member 54 posts Joined: Apr 2010 From: Turtle Island	water problem only lah.. oh I see... Next time I want change my bike EO ka sun bian change back to correct side of tire.. Memang sudah lama tak jumpa.. I really miss TT like last time~
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NoobboyZzZ	Jun 15 2014, 04:24 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #372
Casual Junior Member 317 posts Joined: Apr 2010 From: cheras	QUOTE(alexei @ Jun 14 2014, 08:35 PM) Rear tyre pancit? or kena minyak? wah, long time no see... if terbalik, as in rotation terbalik, when kena water, the tayar is easier to aqua plane. ingat ada minyak ...
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spadecrew	Jun 16 2014, 04:39 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #373
Getting Started Junior Member 154 posts Joined: Jul 2008 From: shah alam	Hi guys...need some help...my standard bike 30k km (lc v1 4speed I think-the black n white colour) start to makan EO...last service only around 100-150ml of eo left...and my engine are vibrating like crazy at high rpm...and I think my cluth out already... I was thinking to change block piston etc2 to counter the prob...but the main problem is I dont know how to go about(what good n not good)...and alang2 open engine I thought to modified it... Here some few question that keep me pening:- -there's lot of block/piston out there...which one to choose? (Good power/reliable/less give headache) that can maintain high speed on highway-50km 1 way to office X1r/Cms/shark/uma/fz ori/etc2 -what size of block/piston size should I use(60mm/62mm/65mm/etc2) -when I change to bigger block/piston...to get all of the power out...is it better to change to racing head or korek ori head better? -my engine vibrate like hell...is this the sign of my piston rod goyang? And/or Crankshaft being unbalanced? -what is jack rod? -do I need high cam? -what cdi to use? -which carburator to use? -maybe my cluth plate out already...feel like not enough gear...never change since I buy the bike...30k km already...any recomendation on this? Change to original or any brand more syiok n reliable than ori? Sorry for a lot of question...this is the first time to modified...before this using scooter only...huhu
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cahayamalamku	Jun 16 2014, 08:48 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #374
Getting Started Junior Member 171 posts Joined: Mar 2008 From: earth	QUOTE(koie06 @ Jun 13 2014, 09:26 PM) please ask for year of manufacture. as i've been inform by the sales men at the bike shop, GP edition for 2014 is not come out yet. usually launch around October and this year dont know yamaha choose which model for GP Edition. but dont believe on me 100% because im not working with Hong Leong Yamaha..haha the GP Edition should be launched around October like previous 2012's and 2011's. however, from info that i have gathered around the net, nothing much changes being done with the GP Edition. only the updated graphic/ livery design. more expensive and more 'panas' because they are limited however, i do like the 2011's that came with black and blue
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koie06	Jun 16 2014, 09:21 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #375
Getting Started Junior Member 77 posts Joined: Nov 2007	QUOTE(spadecrew @ Jun 16 2014, 04:39 AM) Hi guys...need some help...my standard bike 30k km (lc v1 4speed I think-the black n white colour) start to makan EO...last service only around 100-150ml of eo left...and my engine are vibrating like crazy at high rpm...and I think my cluth out already... I was thinking to change block piston etc2 to counter the prob...but the main problem is I dont know how to go about(what good n not good)...and alang2 open engine I thought to modified it... Here some few question that keep me pening:- -there's lot of block/piston out there...which one to choose? (Good power/reliable/less give headache) that can maintain high speed on highway-50km 1 way to office X1r/Cms/shark/uma/fz ori/etc2 -what size of block/piston size should I use(60mm/62mm/65mm/etc2) -when I change to bigger block/piston...to get all of the power out...is it better to change to racing head or korek ori head better? -my engine vibrate like hell...is this the sign of my piston rod goyang? And/or Crankshaft being unbalanced? -what is jack rod? -do I need high cam? -what cdi to use? -which carburator to use? -maybe my cluth plate out already...feel like not enough gear...never change since I buy the bike...30k km already...any recomendation on this? Change to original or any brand more syiok n reliable than ori? Sorry for a lot of question...this is the first time to modified...before this using scooter only...huhu Im new with LC. but already survey for some part recommend by foreman & some sifu's. -there's lot of block/piston out there...which one to choose? (Good power/reliable/less give headache) that can maintain high speed on highway-50km 1 way to office X1r/Cms/shark/uma/fz ori/etc2 - Recommended to use CMS or UMA 62mm Ceramic Coated block + Forged Piston -what size of block/piston size should I use(60mm/62mm/65mm/etc2) - 60mm & 62mm. Bigger size = high maintenance + not durable for long distance -when I change to bigger block/piston...to get all of the power out...is it better to change to racing head or korek ori head better? - for 62mm or higher, its better to change to bigger valve to optimize the power. but not necessary. -my engine vibrate like hell...is this the sign of my piston rod goyang? And/or Crankshaft being unbalanced? - Rod goyang will make sound. if just vibrate its maybe your crankshaft not balance or crank bearing housing problem -what is jack rod? - Jack rod = up stroke -do I need high cam? - recommended to use high cam for wider powerband especially on high RPM. -what cdi to use? - BRT recommended -which carburator to use? - at lease 28mm carb. recommended to use UMA or PWK -maybe my cluth plate out already...feel like not enough gear...never change since I buy the bike...30k km already...any recomendation on this? Change to original or any brand more syiok n reliable than ori? - Just change to original clutch plate + UMA Racing Hyper Clutch Housing(5 spring) or Syscast Clutch Housing(6 spring) for better clutch friction that just my opinion. Just wait for Sifu's reply. This post has been edited by koie06: Jun 16 2014, 09:22 AM
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TSalexei	Jun 16 2014, 11:12 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #376
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	koiespadecrewHere are my humble and personal opinion, generally applied to kapchais. No offense ya. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « QUOTE -there's lot of block/piston out there...which one to choose? (Good power/reliable/less give headache) that can maintain high speed on highway-50km 1 way to office X1r/Cms/shark/uma/fz ori/etc2 Power has nothing to do with block brand. Use stock Diasil for reliability and headache. -what size of block/piston size should I use(60mm/62mm/65mm/etc2) you are using SS, autoclutch. Bigger bore may over-power the clutch systems. -when I change to bigger block/piston...to get all of the power out...is it better to change to racing head or korek ori head better? Depends on exhaust. If stock, port and polish stock head. If race, get a race head with correct valving done. Race mod will reduce low end torque, and may reduce engine reliability. -my engine vibrate like hell...is this the sign of my piston rod goyang? And/or Crankshaft being unbalanced? It takes a dedicated mechanic to check. Bring to someone you trust. He will eliminate all possibility and find out the cause. Since this is a 4-stroke, it can be anything. -what is jack rod? Google it. It is a method to increase stroke distance. It is used to achieve increased compression ratio, or increased engine cc using a low crown piston, using stock block and conrod. -do I need high cam? stock cam give you powerband between 5.5k to 8.5k RPM. If you use high cam, the powerband shifts to higher RPM. Is this what you want? Think lower power at low RPM, and reduced engine reliability. -what cdi to use? My 2 sen: Aftermarket CDIs are all designed to make you spend money with no real benefits. Unless, the shop that sells you the product guarantees some sort of (1) improvement, measured on a dyno, and (2) product warranty. If either (1) or (2) is ‘no’, save the money. -which carburator to use? Do you full throttle all the time, and hunger for more power? If not, stock carb. If yes, you need a different bike. -maybe my cluth plate out already...feel like not enough gear...never change since I buy the bike...30k km already...any recomendation on this? Change to original or any brand more syiok n reliable than ori? For SS, use standard clutch shoe, to reduce the amount of clutch dust that goes into the EO over time. This post has been edited by alexei: Jun 17 2014, 08:24 AM
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TSalexei	Jun 16 2014, 01:33 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #377
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	We are approaching page 20. Need a volunteer new TS for version 21.
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koie06	Jun 16 2014, 02:59 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #378
Getting Started Junior Member 77 posts Joined: Nov 2007	GO! GO! GO! alexei....
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spadecrew	Jun 16 2014, 04:56 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #379
Getting Started Junior Member 154 posts Joined: Jul 2008 From: shah alam	Nice..tq for the reply...need to find good workshop in s.alam to do the work...hard to trust workshop nowdays...haih...
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NoobboyZzZ	Jun 17 2014, 05:00 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #380
Casual Junior Member 317 posts Joined: Apr 2010 From: cheras	QUOTE(koie06 @ Jun 16 2014, 09:21 AM) Im new with LC. but already survey for some part recommend by foreman & some sifu's. -there's lot of block/piston out there...which one to choose? (Good power/reliable/less give headache) that can maintain high speed on highway-50km 1 way to office X1r/Cms/shark/uma/fz ori/etc2 - Recommended to use CMS or UMA 62mm Ceramic Coated block + Forged Piston -what size of block/piston size should I use(60mm/62mm/65mm/etc2) - 60mm & 62mm. Bigger size = high maintenance + not durable for long distance -when I change to bigger block/piston...to get all of the power out...is it better to change to racing head or korek ori head better? - for 62mm or higher, its better to change to bigger valve to optimize the power. but not necessary. -my engine vibrate like hell...is this the sign of my piston rod goyang? And/or Crankshaft being unbalanced? - Rod goyang will make sound. if just vibrate its maybe your crankshaft not balance or crank bearing housing problem -what is jack rod? - Jack rod = up stroke -do I need high cam? - recommended to use high cam for wider powerband especially on high RPM. -what cdi to use? - BRT recommended -which carburator to use? - at lease 28mm carb. recommended to use UMA or PWK -maybe my cluth plate out already...feel like not enough gear...never change since I buy the bike...30k km already...any recomendation on this? Change to original or any brand more syiok n reliable than ori? - Just change to original clutch plate + UMA Racing Hyper Clutch Housing(5 spring) or Syscast Clutch Housing(6 spring) for better clutch friction that just my opinion. Just wait for Sifu's reply. get the shark 62mm ceramic thailand version not indonesia one btw dont jack rod 1.5mm and for head jus take it good sifu port and polish it , if wan mroe power get a racing head but cost high and cdi jus use any aftermarket cdi such as brt carb u may use kips carb or tzm carb , tzm one already lari setting clutch if can convert it to hand clutch , or use harder spring and racing clutch but comfirm will used up fast the clutch plate goyang like hell normally ur eo habish cause u say burn a lot , piston ring or valve seal is out ... if overhaul better include the mod u wan but maintaince sure high side , jus chg eo every 2k m use 20-50 eo sure can tahan sikit
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TSalexei	Jun 18 2014, 08:31 PM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #381
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	spadecrewas you can see, everybody opinion is so different. Good luck, and most important thing is you know what you want.
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wady89	Jun 22 2014, 06:51 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #382
New Member Newbie 3 posts Joined: Feb 2012	hi there people...any shop recomended in banting or closer area to service and modified anything?
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As^Beauty	Jun 22 2014, 11:34 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #383
New Member Newbie 3 posts Joined: Nov 2012	Hi...bunyi apa ni? During cold n idle only... http://youtu.be/BoRjy_h8Sdo Tq..
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CyberSundayz	Jun 22 2014, 02:04 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #384
★★★★★★★★★ Senior Member 1,850 posts Joined: Feb 2008	QUOTE(As^Beauty @ Jun 22 2014, 11:34 AM) Hi...bunyi apa ni? During cold n idle only... BoRjy_h8Sdo Tq..
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thianz	Jun 22 2014, 02:17 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #385
New Member Junior Member 16 posts Joined: Jan 2009	QUOTE(As^Beauty @ Jun 22 2014, 11:34 AM) Hi...bunyi apa ni? During cold n idle only... http://youtu.be/BoRjy_h8Sdo Tq.. pergi reset setting carb .... isi ron 97 sebulan sekali ke ... jgn ron 95 jer .....
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As^Beauty	Jun 22 2014, 03:05 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #386
New Member Newbie 3 posts Joined: Nov 2012	QUOTE(thianz @ Jun 22 2014, 02:17 PM) pergi reset setting carb .... isi ron 97 sebulan sekali ke ... jgn ron 95 jer ..... Lor...carb punya pasal saja...ingat kena overhaul..hehe...tq tq.. Cybersundayz, tq repair broken link... This post has been edited by As^Beauty: Jun 22 2014, 03:06 PM
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thianz	Jun 22 2014, 03:36 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #387
New Member Junior Member 16 posts Joined: Jan 2009	QUOTE(As^Beauty @ Jun 22 2014, 03:05 PM) Lor...carb punya pasal saja...ingat kena overhaul..hehe...tq tq.. Cybersundayz, tq repair broken link... pasal i dengar u start pagi susah sangat ..... try la cari sifu tolong service carb .... setting angin balik .... timing rendah ....
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TSalexei	Jun 23 2014, 10:43 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #388
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(As^Beauty @ Jun 22 2014, 11:34 AM) Hi...bunyi apa ni? Tq.. Did you change any parts? IMO, carb is fine, just need to use choke to start.
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As^Beauty	Jun 23 2014, 12:39 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #389
New Member Newbie 3 posts Joined: Nov 2012	QUOTE(alexei @ Jun 23 2014, 10:43 AM) Did you change any parts? IMO, carb is fine, just need to use choke to start. itu kebetulan saja susah nak start...bunyi tu yang menyakitkan hati..taktaktaktaktak not changing any part.. This post has been edited by As^Beauty: Jun 23 2014, 12:41 PM
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TSalexei	Jun 23 2014, 03:34 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #390
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(As^Beauty @ Jun 23 2014, 12:39 PM) itu kebetulan saja susah nak start...bunyi tu yang menyakitkan hati..taktaktaktaktak not changing any part.. most probably engine head, or timing chain... need to check. If the noise disappear after warm up, then maybe a lose piston that needs to warm up to fit better.
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rosmanpositivo	Jun 24 2014, 05:43 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #391
Getting Started Junior Member 113 posts Joined: Oct 2009 From: Kuala Lumpur	Hello guys. New rider here reporting in! Mohon beri tunjuk ajar. Bow down Damn I got lots of stuffs to read. Super-duper noob here.
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crappy123	Jun 24 2014, 09:07 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #392
New Member Newbie 1 posts Joined: Jul 2011	any new mods?
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TSalexei	Jun 25 2014, 09:57 PM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #393
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(rosmanpositivo @ Jun 24 2014, 05:43 PM) Hello guys. New rider here reporting in! Mohon beri tunjuk ajar. Bow down Damn I got lots of stuffs to read. Super-duper noob here. welcome welcome... which state u from? QUOTE(crappy123 @ Jun 24 2014, 09:07 PM) any new mods? u mean ur 70mm?
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thianz	Jun 25 2014, 10:06 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #394
New Member Junior Member 16 posts Joined: Jan 2009	mod fz blok + faito jack crank set + gearbox + big valve head ...... feel like wana layan highway balik .... motor std i duno how to ride adi ....
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TSalexei	Jun 26 2014, 07:57 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #395
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(thianz @ Jun 25 2014, 10:06 PM) feel like wana layan highway balik .... motor std i duno how to ride adi .... Penang mari? Few times still couldn't meet up TT...
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thianz	Jun 26 2014, 03:49 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #396
New Member Junior Member 16 posts Joined: Jan 2009	QUOTE(alexei @ Jun 26 2014, 07:57 AM) Penang mari? Few times still couldn't meet up TT... i suddenly miss gerik ...... planing spend my A/L there & thailand
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jern25	Jun 27 2014, 05:23 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #397
Enthusiast Senior Member 827 posts Joined: Dec 2011	is there v19 yet?
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TSalexei	Jun 27 2014, 05:44 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #398
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(jern25 @ Jun 27 2014, 05:23 PM) is there v19 yet? No, I'm waiting for volunteer to start.
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cahayamalamku	Jun 27 2014, 07:46 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #399
Getting Started Junior Member 171 posts Joined: Mar 2008 From: earth	QUOTE(alexei @ Jun 27 2014, 05:44 PM) No, I'm waiting for volunteer to start. 2014 yamaha lc135 es including road tax, reg. no., insurance etc cash at RM7660.00 is it OK? also is it good to install alarm system or it will void the warranty and kill the battery faster?
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wady89	Jun 28 2014, 10:30 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #400
New Member Newbie 3 posts Joined: Feb 2012	hi there people...any shop, sifu recomended in banting, shah alam or closer area to service and modified anything? name it tq
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TSalexei	Jun 28 2014, 10:23 PM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #401
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	solved. This post has been edited by alexei: Jul 2 2014, 05:58 PM
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serigala	Jun 29 2014, 06:03 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #402
CurSedWolf Senior Member 1,439 posts Joined: Jan 2008 From: Dungeons of the Wolves	QUOTE(alexei @ Jun 28 2014, 10:23 PM) Price I am not familiar. Alarm system is best to understand how it works, then install. Also, need to watch the installation. If the installation just use wire cutter, sambung here and there, then use black tape... sorry, cannot accept. By normal standard, it must use proper connectors, soldered down, with heat shrink tubing, etc. Alarm systems shouldn't kill battery faster. If it does, it probably isn't a good one. I personally am not familiar with alarm options in the market, so can't advise much. I'd recommend installing a hidden switch somewhere, as an immobilizer. Need basic wiring skills. just page 21 only..not 125 yet...
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TSalexei	Jun 29 2014, 10:04 AM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #403
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(serigala @ Jun 29 2014, 06:03 AM) just page 21 only..not 125 yet... LOL. What about you? Any recent biking adventures lately?
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crappy123	Jun 29 2014, 10:13 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #404
New Member Newbie 1 posts Joined: Jul 2011	QUOTE(thianz @ Jun 25 2014, 10:06 PM) mod fz blok + faito jack crank set + gearbox + big valve head ...... feel like wana layan highway balik .... motor std i duno how to ride adi .... faito crank need change rod. the faito rod cannot use wan. get tkrj
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rosmanpositivo	Jul 1 2014, 12:23 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #405
Getting Started Junior Member 113 posts Joined: Oct 2009 From: Kuala Lumpur	QUOTE(alexei @ Jun 25 2014, 09:57 PM) welcome welcome... which state u from? Hello. I stay in KL and Sunway. After one week, both of my side mirrors already kena rembat, back in Cheras. I know LC is 'hotstuff' but side mirror also want to cilok? And they took the mirrors only and left the batang hahaha. Frustrating yet funny.
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rosmanpositivo	Jul 1 2014, 12:25 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #406
Getting Started Junior Member 113 posts Joined: Oct 2009 From: Kuala Lumpur	QUOTE(cahayamalamku @ Jun 27 2014, 07:46 PM) 2014 yamaha lc135 es including road tax, reg. no., insurance etc cash at RM7660.00 is it OK? If you can afford to get by cash, do so. I took 'loan kedai' and I calculated the total amount I'm paying is 12K++, nearly 13K after 3.5 years. Damn capitalism huhuhu.
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thianz	Jul 1 2014, 08:23 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #407
New Member Junior Member 16 posts Joined: Jan 2009	QUOTE(rosmanpositivo @ Jul 1 2014, 12:25 PM) If you can afford to get by cash, do so. I took 'loan kedai' and I calculated the total amount I'm paying is 12K++, nearly 13K after 3.5 years. Damn capitalism huhuhu. d/p berapa ? loan berapa lama ? 12 , 24 , 36 bulan ? pinjam berapa ? bulanan berapa ?? how u calculate until 12k+++
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Steroid-Lc135	Jul 1 2014, 09:59 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #408
New Member Newbie 0 posts Joined: Mar 2014 From: JB	hello all bro i m newbie,wanna ask u all somthing can i still using my standard exhaust for my lc135 5speed after i change to x1r 65mm kit n 22/24 racing head but still using standard valve spring none racing one n uma hi cam so if i never change to racing exhaust will its cause any damage to any of my enjin parts in long term of use anyone try this b4.hope some expert can help n advise here TQ my bike pic just wanna share with u guys Attached thumbnail(s)
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thianz	Jul 1 2014, 10:35 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #409
New Member Junior Member 16 posts Joined: Jan 2009	QUOTE(Steroid-Lc135 @ Jul 1 2014, 09:59 PM) hello all bro i m newbie,wanna ask u all somthing can i still using my standard exhaust for my lc135 5speed after i change to x1r 65mm kit n 22/24 racing head but still using standard valve spring none racing one n uma hi cam so if i never change to racing exhaust will its cause any damage to any of my enjin parts in long term of use anyone try this b4.hope some expert can help n advise here TQ my bike pic just wanna share with u guys motor anda xboleh bla .. kalau u din change more air flow exhaust ... racing exhaust or std exhaust operate ... probably will damage engine .. pls go change it .... how abt carb ?
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Steroid-Lc135	Jul 1 2014, 10:40 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #410
New Member Newbie 0 posts Joined: Mar 2014 From: JB	QUOTE(thianz @ Jul 1 2014, 10:35 PM) motor anda xboleh bla .. kalau u din change more air flow exhaust ... racing exhaust or std exhaust operate ... probably will damage engine .. pls go change it .... how abt carb ? thk,will go change leo vince carbon,caburator i use kawa150 ori 28mm do u knw mj n pj for cab setting bro
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serigala	Jul 2 2014, 06:34 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #411
CurSedWolf Senior Member 1,439 posts Joined: Jan 2008 From: Dungeons of the Wolves	QUOTE(alexei @ Jun 29 2014, 10:04 AM) LOL. What about you? Any recent biking adventures lately? so far nothing yet..bike need major maintenance( almost 60,000km after last major ) still collecting parts
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cahayamalamku	Jul 2 2014, 08:26 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #412
Getting Started Junior Member 171 posts Joined: Mar 2008 From: earth	QUOTE(alexei @ Jun 28 2014, 10:23 PM) Price I am not familiar. Alarm system is best to understand how it works, then install. Also, need to watch the installation. If the installation just use wire cutter, sambung here and there, then use black tape... sorry, cannot accept. By normal standard, it must use proper connectors, soldered down, with heat shrink tubing, etc. Alarm systems shouldn't kill battery faster. If it does, it probably isn't a good one. I personally am not familiar with alarm options in the market, so can't advise much. I'd recommend installing a hidden switch somewhere, as an immobilizer. Need basic wiring skills. i think it is best for me not to installed then the alarm is made in taiwan and got yamaha logo on its box. got 2 remotes (to lock and unlock like car's) etc they sell it at RM168 but if i buy lc135 from them, they will sell it to me at RM158 * 50% discount = RM79 only. QUOTE(rosmanpositivo @ Jul 1 2014, 12:25 PM) If you can afford to get by cash, do so. I took 'loan kedai' and I calculated the total amount I'm paying is 12K++, nearly 13K after 3.5 years. Damn capitalism huhuhu. waiting for my loan to be approved first. will go for 'loan kedai' too if not approved... or maybe just repair back my 20-year-old ex5 for long distance travel kl very jammed nowadays especially during ramadhan QUOTE(Steroid-Lc135 @ Jul 1 2014, 09:59 PM) hello all bro i m newbie,wanna ask u all somthing can i still using my standard exhaust for my lc135 5speed after i change to x1r 65mm kit n 22/24 racing head but still using standard valve spring none racing one n uma hi cam so if i never change to racing exhaust will its cause any damage to any of my enjin parts in long term of use anyone try this b4.hope some expert can help n advise here TQ my bike pic just wanna share with u guys simple question, what is that thing attached at the meter area? camera?
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jern25	Jul 2 2014, 08:37 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #413
Enthusiast Senior Member 827 posts Joined: Dec 2011	QUOTE(rosmanpositivo @ Jul 1 2014, 12:25 PM) If you can afford to get by cash, do so. I took 'loan kedai' and I calculated the total amount I'm paying is 12K++, nearly 13K after 3.5 years. Damn capitalism huhuhu. how come very high? i also took loan kedai. d/p rm3.8k, monthly rm180 for 2 years. All in - RM8,120. So interest that i paid is RM8,120 - RM6,800 = RM1,320 la (included roadtax,insurance and alarm installed)
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TSalexei	Jul 2 2014, 09:31 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #414
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(Steroid-Lc135 @ Jul 1 2014, 09:59 PM) hello all bro i m newbie,wanna ask u all somthing can i still using my standard exhaust for my lc135 5speed after i change to x1r 65mm kit n 22/24 racing head but still using standard valve spring none racing one n uma hi cam so if i never change to racing exhaust will its cause any damage to any of my enjin parts in long term of use anyone try this b4.hope some expert can help n advise here TQ my bike pic just wanna share with u guys Hi newbie, Welcome to the club. A friendly netiquette advice: Please use punctuation in your sentences. Respect the people whom you expect to read your post. If you keep this up, I would skip your post after the first line, and eventually ignore you. My 2sen.
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Steroid-Lc135	Jul 2 2014, 02:39 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #415
New Member Newbie 0 posts Joined: Mar 2014 From: JB	QUOTE(alexei @ Jul 2 2014, 09:31 AM) Hi newbie, Welcome to the club. A friendly netiquette advice: Please use punctuation in your sentences. Respect the people whom you expect to read your post. If you keep this up, I would skip your post after the first line, and eventually ignore you. My 2sen. Thanks,u mean no shortcut words sorry my English not good so not really understand what you mean by punctual sentence sorry
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Steroid-Lc135	Jul 2 2014, 02:46 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #416
New Member Newbie 0 posts Joined: Mar 2014 From: JB	QUOTE(cahayamalamku @ Jul 2 2014, 08:26 AM) i think it is best for me not to installed then the alarm is made in taiwan and got yamaha logo on its box. got 2 remotes (to lock and unlock like car's) etc they sell it at RM168 but if i buy lc135 from them, they will sell it to me at RM158 * 50% discount = RM79 only. waiting for my loan to be approved first. will go for 'loan kedai' too if not approved... or maybe just repair back my 20-year-old ex5 for long distance travel kl very jammed nowadays especially during ramadhan simple question, what is that thing attached at the meter area? camera? That's ERP scanner/machine use at Singapore to pay toll fee when entering city area and some express way to avoid summon.installed on my both bike
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thianz	Jul 2 2014, 04:04 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #417
New Member Junior Member 16 posts Joined: Jan 2009	QUOTE(Steroid-Lc135 @ Jul 1 2014, 10:40 PM) thk,will go change leo vince carbon,caburator i use kawa150 ori 28mm do u knw mj n pj for cab setting bro saya rekoman u go find more air flow exhaust .. i see leo vience macam not enough big for ur 65mm ...... 28mm look like not enough for ur 65mm ..... so far ur mj , pj is how much ???
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Steroid-Lc135	Jul 2 2014, 07:35 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #418
New Member Newbie 0 posts Joined: Mar 2014 From: JB	QUOTE(thianz @ Jul 2 2014, 04:04 PM) saya rekoman u go find more air flow exhaust .. i see leo vience macam not enough big for ur 65mm ...... 28mm look like not enough for ur 65mm ..... so far ur mj , pj is how much ??? mj pj i never check so don know,i only ask my friend install head & block for my both bike he don know setting caburator but my 2008 lc es using NSR SP caburator still using same jetting for 62mm previous block but work find very power too,exhaust also using cheap 1 buy at $120 only brand R1 type R.but my another lc 5speed a lot jerking and no power at all using kawa150 caburator.a lot forman said kawa150 caburator difficult to set take more time for setting,NSR sp caburator more easy thats why i try to ask you guys here because don wan waste money to buy new caburator,thianz can you tell me which brand exhaust more suit my bike modification type
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serigala	Jul 2 2014, 09:26 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #419
CurSedWolf Senior Member 1,439 posts Joined: Jan 2008 From: Dungeons of the Wolves	CJ ipoh 32mm gooding for 65mm
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Steroid-Lc135	Jul 2 2014, 11:14 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #420
New Member Newbie 0 posts Joined: Mar 2014 From: JB	QUOTE(serigala @ Jul 2 2014, 09:26 PM) CJ ipoh 32mm gooding for 65mm thks for the tips serigala i will try to find this CJ poh 32mm exhaust
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cahayamalamku	Jul 3 2014, 08:24 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #421
Getting Started Junior Member 171 posts Joined: Mar 2008 From: earth	rumors said that there will be lc150 to be released in indonesia soon? anyway, i am sticking to my plan and will get my lc135 on monday (07/07/2014). any advice/ recommended inspection upon collecting the bike later? thanks!
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thianz	Jul 3 2014, 03:30 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #422
New Member Junior Member 16 posts Joined: Jan 2009	QUOTE(cahayamalamku @ Jul 3 2014, 08:24 AM) rumors said that there will be lc150 to be released in indonesia soon? anyway, i am sticking to my plan and will get my lc135 on monday (07/07/2014). any advice/ recommended inspection upon collecting the bike later? thanks! aiya .... 150cc ..... plug and play fz 150 blok .. problem solved ....
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lms2005	Jul 3 2014, 09:38 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #423
Regular Senior Member 1,270 posts Joined: May 2005 From: somewhere else	QUOTE(thianz @ Jul 3 2014, 03:30 PM) aiya .... 150cc ..... plug and play fz 150 blok .. problem solved .... fz blok + fz cam + fz valve spring
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Steroid-Lc135	Jul 4 2014, 07:31 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #424
New Member Newbie 0 posts Joined: Mar 2014 From: JB	any of the member here are frm JB?
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Steroid-Lc135	Jul 4 2014, 08:00 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #425
New Member Newbie 0 posts Joined: Mar 2014 From: JB	my old Lc Attached thumbnail(s)
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cahayamalamku	Jul 5 2014, 02:24 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #426
Getting Started Junior Member 171 posts Joined: Mar 2008 From: earth	125. cahayamalamku KL \| ES \| July 2014 just got mine today but only ride it for 30km because it's around 12pm... very hot plus puasa. learning to use manual clutch, 1. once, almost engine mati when traffic light turned to green 2. once, i wanted to change to 4th gear but changed it to 2nd instead hopefully, 2-3 days more i will get used to it » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
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Steroid-Lc135	Jul 5 2014, 10:11 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #427
New Member Newbie 0 posts Joined: Mar 2014 From: JB	QUOTE(cahayamalamku @ Jul 5 2014, 02:24 PM) 125. cahayamalamku KL \| ES \| July 2014 just got mine today but only ride it for 30km because it's around 12pm... very hot plus puasa. learning to use manual clutch, 1. once, almost engine mati when traffic light turned to green 2. once, i wanted to change to 4th gear but changed it to 2nd instead hopefully, 2-3 days more i will get used to it » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « nice new bike,after 1 week u will familiar with it me got the same probm too when started to ride my new 5s
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lms2005	Jul 6 2014, 07:31 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #428
Regular Senior Member 1,270 posts Joined: May 2005 From: somewhere else	QUOTE(Steroid-Lc135 @ Jul 5 2014, 10:11 PM) nice new bike,after 1 week u will familiar with it me got the same probm too when started to ride my new 5s me too... 1st to 2nd gear always go in free gear
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thianz	Jul 7 2014, 12:44 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #429
New Member Junior Member 16 posts Joined: Jan 2009	QUOTE(lms2005 @ Jul 6 2014, 07:31 PM) me too... 1st to 2nd gear always go in free gear normal ppl will hard to get free gear ... u guy .. tukar gear sampai free gear ????
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TSalexei	Jul 7 2014, 10:58 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #430
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(cahayamalamku @ Jul 5 2014, 02:24 PM) 125. cahayamalamku KL \| ES \| July 2014 just got mine today but only ride it for 30km because it's around 12pm... very hot plus puasa. learning to use manual clutch, 1. once, almost engine mati when traffic light turned to green 2. once, i wanted to change to 4th gear but changed it to 2nd instead hopefully, 2-3 days more i will get used to it » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « welcome!!!! added user list and ride pic.
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Steroid-Lc135	Jul 8 2014, 10:17 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #431
New Member Newbie 0 posts Joined: Mar 2014 From: JB	today i already buy n install this Epower Berang exhaust for my lc 5speed 32mm standard look alike exhaust with removable silencer local made at rm180,sound so loud without silencer but power This post has been edited by Steroid-Lc135: Jul 8 2014, 10:27 PM Attached thumbnail(s)
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Steroid-Lc135	Jul 8 2014, 10:32 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #432
New Member Newbie 0 posts Joined: Mar 2014 From: JB	removable silencer Attached thumbnail(s)
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zkhin	Jul 9 2014, 03:37 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #433
Getting Started Junior Member 184 posts Joined: Nov 2011	Guys. Can I buy led front light for previous lc v2 and use it on the latest lc?
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koie06	Jul 10 2014, 09:15 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #434
Getting Started Junior Member 77 posts Joined: Nov 2007	anybody know where can i buy original CDI BRT Powermax Dualband type RK? survey at sentul but only have R(Imported by AG Industries) This post has been edited by koie06: Jul 10 2014, 09:16 AM
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cahayamalamku	Jul 11 2014, 05:56 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #435
Getting Started Junior Member 171 posts Joined: Mar 2008 From: earth	QUOTE(koie06 @ Jul 10 2014, 09:15 AM) anybody know where can i buy original CDI BRT Powermax Dualband type RK? survey at sentul but only have R(Imported by AG Industries) if change to this cdi, will the top speed increase? i have not yet to test my lc top speed because it's ODO only < 300km but i did rev it once for full throttle about 1-2 seconds and the speed was only 115kmh
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TSalexei	Jul 11 2014, 04:41 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #436
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(zkhin @ Jul 9 2014, 03:37 AM) Guys. Can I buy led front light for previous lc v2 and use it on the latest lc? Not sure. Take a photo and bring to shop and ask? QUOTE(cahayamalamku @ Jul 11 2014, 05:56 AM) if change to this cdi, will the top speed increase? i have not yet to test my lc top speed because it's ODO only < 300km but i did rev it once for full throttle about 1-2 seconds and the speed was only 115kmh Tune the stock parts nicely and you should hit 140km/h.
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Are_keem	Jul 12 2014, 03:42 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #437
I'm riders, not rempit Senior Member 2,123 posts Joined: Jul 2006 From: where am I suppose to be?	QUOTE(thianz @ Jul 7 2014, 12:44 AM) normal ppl will hard to get free gear ... u guy .. tukar gear sampai free gear ???? can happen if ride slowly mah.. happened few times before with my previous RR. that over-rev sound when you accidentally change to free gear from 1st gear at 5-6k RPM...
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thianz	Jul 13 2014, 10:28 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #438
New Member Junior Member 16 posts Joined: Jan 2009	QUOTE(Are_keem @ Jul 12 2014, 03:42 PM) can happen if ride slowly mah.. happened few times before with my previous RR. that over-rev sound when you accidentally change to free gear from 1st gear at 5-6k RPM... previos RR ??? apa u ride skrg ???
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cahayamalamku	Jul 14 2014, 10:21 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #439
Getting Started Junior Member 171 posts Joined: Mar 2008 From: earth	QUOTE(alexei @ Jul 11 2014, 04:41 PM) Tune the stock parts nicely and you should hit 140km/h. you mean changing the sprocket size combinations? will do that when my sprocket 'finish' later currently i am enjoying 80-100km/h cruising ride only my previous tank of ron95 lasted for more than 200km
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koie06	Jul 14 2014, 03:28 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #440
Getting Started Junior Member 77 posts Joined: Nov 2007	QUOTE(cahayamalamku @ Jul 11 2014, 05:56 AM) if change to this cdi, will the top speed increase? i have not yet to test my lc top speed because it's ODO only < 300km but i did rev it once for full throttle about 1-2 seconds and the speed was only 115kmh i have bought BRT Powermax(Imported by AG Industries). cant find the RK version. This post has been edited by koie06: Jul 14 2014, 03:55 PM
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rosmanpositivo	Jul 15 2014, 03:59 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #441
Getting Started Junior Member 113 posts Joined: Oct 2009 From: Kuala Lumpur	QUOTE(thianz @ Jul 1 2014, 08:23 PM) d/p berapa ? loan berapa lama ? 12 , 24 , 36 bulan ? pinjam berapa ? bulanan berapa ?? how u calculate until 12k+++ QUOTE(jern25 @ Jul 2 2014, 08:37 AM) how come very high? i also took loan kedai. d/p rm3.8k, monthly rm180 for 2 years. All in - RM8,120. So interest that i paid is RM8,120 - RM6,800 = RM1,320 la (included roadtax,insurance and alarm installed) D/P: RM1.5K. Monthly: RM270 x 42 months. Whenever I tell this people will go like
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TSalexei	Jul 15 2014, 11:10 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #442
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(cahayamalamku @ Jul 14 2014, 10:21 AM) you mean changing the sprocket size combinations? will do that when my sprocket 'finish' later currently i am enjoying 80-100km/h cruising ride only my previous tank of ron95 lasted for more than 200km Haha, nice. Not sure about change sprocket, but, if you want to try, use some formula on the engine RPM and gear ratio to determine the right sprocket so that the final gear is on over-drive (Engine RPM slower than gear RPM). QUOTE(rosmanpositivo @ Jul 15 2014, 03:59 AM) D/P: RM1.5K. Monthly: RM270 x 42 months. Whenever I tell this people will go like Monthly is 42 months, or 24 months? Better you confirm with the shop, otherwise you're being ripped off. Yours is like plan 3 here: http://www.huatbingmotors.com.my/listing/y...135-es-5-speed/
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dreamerf_14	Jul 15 2014, 02:58 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #443
Getting Started Junior Member 156 posts Joined: Nov 2009	QUOTE(jern25 @ Jul 2 2014, 08:37 AM) how come very high? i also took loan kedai. d/p rm3.8k, monthly rm180 for 2 years. All in - RM8,120. So interest that i paid is RM8,120 - RM6,800 = RM1,320 la (included roadtax,insurance and alarm installed) which shop? mind to share? no clutch right?
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thianz	Jul 15 2014, 03:09 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #444
New Member Junior Member 16 posts Joined: Jan 2009	QUOTE(rosmanpositivo @ Jul 15 2014, 03:59 AM) D/P: RM1.5K. Monthly: RM270 x 42 months. Whenever I tell this people will go like gila mahal ... sila pergi survey kedai lain .....
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crappy123	Jul 16 2014, 12:45 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #445
New Member Newbie 1 posts Joined: Jul 2011	try apitech cdi, can set graph. very powerful
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jern25	Jul 16 2014, 12:12 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #446
Enthusiast Senior Member 827 posts Joined: Dec 2011	QUOTE(alexei @ Jul 15 2014, 11:10 AM) Monthly is 42 months, or 24 months? Better you confirm with the shop, otherwise you're being ripped off. Yours is like plan 3 here: http://www.huatbingmotors.com.my/listing/y...135-es-5-speed/ i dont think its 24 months. if not it will be cheaper. hehe
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koie06	Jul 16 2014, 12:36 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #447
Getting Started Junior Member 77 posts Joined: Nov 2007	i got mine for: d/p: RM1800 Monthly: RM322 Duration: 24month
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nabelon	Jul 17 2014, 03:05 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #448
Walk of Life Senior Member 1,714 posts Joined: Aug 2005 From: Taman Pekaka, Sg. Dua, Gelugor, Penang	Hi there. Gonna pick up my lc later this evening. Any recommended tips on taking care of the bike ? Havent ride in 6 years.
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thianz	Jul 17 2014, 09:51 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #449
New Member Junior Member 16 posts Joined: Jan 2009	QUOTE(nabelon @ Jul 17 2014, 03:05 PM) Hi there. Gonna pick up my lc later this evening. Any recommended tips on taking care of the bike ? Havent ride in 6 years. ride like normal ... pickup relax .. dun ride like mad ppl ....
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koie06	Jul 18 2014, 10:07 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #450
Getting Started Junior Member 77 posts Joined: Nov 2007	After doing some engine upgrading i notice my bike clutch is slipping very badly. Any recommended what to do? -Change Clutch Spring(What Brand?) -Change to 5 or 6 Spring clutch housing? LC ES 5Speed share clutch spring with which yamaha bike?
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serigala	Jul 18 2014, 10:11 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #451
CurSedWolf Senior Member 1,439 posts Joined: Jan 2008 From: Dungeons of the Wolves	QUOTE(koie06 @ Jul 18 2014, 10:07 AM) After doing some engine upgrading i notice my bike clutch is slipping very badly. Any recommended what to do? -Change Clutch Spring(What Brand?) -Change to 5 or 6 Spring clutch housing? LC ES 5Speed share clutch spring with which yamaha bike? Uma Racing 5 spring..good quality..
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TSalexei	Jul 18 2014, 12:42 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #452
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(koie06 @ Jul 18 2014, 10:07 AM) After doing some engine upgrading i notice my bike clutch is slipping very badly. Any recommended what to do? -Change Clutch Spring(What Brand?) -Change to 5 or 6 Spring clutch housing? LC ES 5Speed share clutch spring with which yamaha bike? What riding condition causes that to happen? Sound like incredible mod.
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koie06	Jul 18 2014, 04:33 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #453
Getting Started Junior Member 77 posts Joined: Nov 2007	QUOTE(alexei @ Jul 18 2014, 12:42 PM) What riding condition causes that to happen? Sound like incredible mod. it happen when:- -Quickly change gear, happen on every gear -When suddenly want to speed up(full throttle) after maintaining at 120kmh(Engine rev increase but speed stationery) -When riding with pillion is it sufficient to just change to racing spring or i really need 5 @ 6 spring clutch housing? no incredible mod la..still can use electric starter.. This post has been edited by koie06: Jul 18 2014, 04:37 PM
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thianz	Jul 18 2014, 04:59 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #454
New Member Junior Member 16 posts Joined: Jan 2009	QUOTE(koie06 @ Jul 18 2014, 04:33 PM) it happen when:- -Quickly change gear, happen on every gear -When suddenly want to speed up(full throttle) after maintaining at 120kmh(Engine rev increase but speed stationery) -When riding with pillion is it sufficient to just change to racing spring or i really need 5 @ 6 spring clutch housing? no incredible mod la..still can use electric starter.. biasa-la ... shift gear cepat cepat .... clutch haus ..... beli original yamaha clutch plate jer .... some sell in piece by piece .. some sell in one set .. 4 or 5 slide ... got 1 slide dia kecil sikit ....dari lain ... u buy all besar 1 ..
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koie06	Jul 18 2014, 08:16 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #455
Getting Started Junior Member 77 posts Joined: Nov 2007	my bike is just 3month old...this problem is due to my upgrade...maybe stock clutch spring cannot withstand the torque...its time to upgrade clutch part i guess... replacing the small clutch plate to standard size, whats the pros & cons? This post has been edited by koie06: Jul 18 2014, 08:20 PM
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serigala	Jul 18 2014, 09:00 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #456
CurSedWolf Senior Member 1,439 posts Joined: Jan 2008 From: Dungeons of the Wolves	QUOTE(koie06 @ Jul 18 2014, 08:16 PM) my bike is just 3month old...this problem is due to my upgrade...maybe stock clutch spring cannot withstand the torque...its time to upgrade clutch part i guess... replacing the small clutch plate to standard size, whats the pros & cons? try change just the spring 1st..
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koie06	Jul 22 2014, 08:47 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #457
Getting Started Junior Member 77 posts Joined: Nov 2007	has change the spring. problem solved.
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lms2005	Jul 22 2014, 02:24 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #458
Regular Senior Member 1,270 posts Joined: May 2005 From: somewhere else	LC5S, found oil stains here. after cleanup still appear... anyone experience this? ignore the clutch spring stain.. i spray chain oil on it
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dreamerf_14	Jul 22 2014, 02:47 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #459
Getting Started Junior Member 156 posts Joined: Nov 2009	QUOTE(nabelon @ Jul 17 2014, 03:05 PM) Hi there. Gonna pick up my lc later this evening. Any recommended tips on taking care of the bike ? Havent ride in 6 years. how's your new bike? i'm collecting mine later..
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koie06	Jul 23 2014, 09:19 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #460
Getting Started Junior Member 77 posts Joined: Nov 2007	Anybody has mod LC 5S and topspeed able to reach over 160kmh? i've mod mine but only can get around 14+kmh. tested around 1km only. This post has been edited by koie06: Jul 23 2014, 09:20 AM
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TSalexei	Jul 23 2014, 11:34 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #461
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(koie06 @ Jul 23 2014, 09:19 AM) Anybody has mod LC 5S and topspeed able to reach over 160kmh? i've mod mine but only can get around 14+kmh. tested around 1km only. What you mod? GPS speed or meter?
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koie06	Jul 23 2014, 12:16 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #462
Getting Started Junior Member 77 posts Joined: Nov 2007	LC meter = 140kmh Duke 390 = 145kmh mod:- -63mm Block -22/19 Head -BRT CDI -UMA 30mm -Hi-Cam -Exhaust CJ MB 28mm -Sprocket 14-35(Rider 60kg)
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cahayamalamku	Jul 23 2014, 01:49 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #463
Getting Started Junior Member 171 posts Joined: Mar 2008 From: earth	QUOTE(koie06 @ Jul 23 2014, 12:16 PM) LC meter = 140kmh Duke 390 = 145kmh mod:- -63mm Block -22/19 Head -BRT CDI -UMA 30mm -Hi-Cam -Exhaust CJ MB 28mm -Sprocket 14-35(Rider 60kg) 3 months old already mod engine? how much for all these mods?
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koie06	Jul 23 2014, 02:15 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #464
Getting Started Junior Member 77 posts Joined: Nov 2007	just top set bro..hehe..engine internal still stock. Around RM2.4k for part and machinery. P&P, Installation, Setting by me and my brother.haha.. will do compression test tonight, hopefully above 200kpa.
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bizzy123	Jul 26 2014, 12:32 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #465
New Member Junior Member 9 posts Joined: Feb 2009 From: Greenlane Area,Penang,M'sia	Heelllllooooo Alexiii ^o^ bizzy is backkkkkk! XD Ei why went missing on Facebook can't contact u leh... Sept u kat Penang or not? Probably getting a 2 stroke on Sept need ur advise hehehe
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TSalexei	Jul 26 2014, 04:52 PM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #466
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(bizzy123 @ Jul 26 2014, 12:32 AM) Heelllllooooo Alexiii ^o^ bizzy is backkkkkk! XD Ei why went missing on Facebook can't contact u leh... Sept u kat Penang or not? Probably getting a 2 stroke on Sept need ur advise hehehe hello friend... can can, come find me. PM me here also can.
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Rascal Stitch	Jul 28 2014, 11:50 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #467
New Member Junior Member 40 posts Joined: Apr 2010 From: Old Klang Road~	QUOTE(lms2005 @ Jul 3 2014, 10:38 PM) fz blok + fz cam + fz valve spring wen wanna go riding wit me...?
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lms2005	Jul 28 2014, 05:34 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #468
Regular Senior Member 1,270 posts Joined: May 2005 From: somewhere else	QUOTE(Rascal Stitch @ Jul 28 2014, 11:50 AM) wen wanna go riding wit me...? Mine kapzai only, 1st gear i only see ur smoke...
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Rascal Stitch	Jul 29 2014, 08:47 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #469
New Member Junior Member 40 posts Joined: Apr 2010 From: Old Klang Road~	QUOTE(lms2005 @ Jul 28 2014, 06:34 PM) Mine kapzai only, 1st gear i only see ur smoke... erally a not...? sama sama pakai motor kapchai mia~
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febreze2xxx	Jul 31 2014, 07:50 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #470
Casual Junior Member 421 posts Joined: Apr 2009	Hi there. Currently my bike have some sort of losing power like loose clutch on gear or sudden lost of power when riding at cruising speed 100km above. Is it auto clutch problem? I already change to ikr (not sure the brand) cdi since the mechanic say it is the ori cdi cut off. My bike is 2 years old but already travel 30k km.
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thianz	Jul 31 2014, 09:02 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #471
New Member Junior Member 16 posts Joined: Jan 2009	QUOTE(febreze2xxx @ Jul 31 2014, 07:50 PM) Hi there. Currently my bike have some sort of losing power like loose clutch on gear or sudden lost of power when riding at cruising speed 100km above. Is it auto clutch problem? I already change to ikr (not sure the brand) cdi since the mechanic say it is the ori cdi cut off. My bike is 2 years old but already travel 30k km. mean u pusing more minyak ... bike xboleh bla ??? how long u din maintain ur bike adi ???
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febreze2xxx	Aug 1 2014, 07:23 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #472
Casual Junior Member 421 posts Joined: Apr 2009	QUOTE(thianz @ Jul 31 2014, 09:02 PM) mean u pusing more minyak ... bike xboleh bla ??? how long u din maintain ur bike adi ??? Bike running well but can feel some kind of pausing during 100km or above like something choking the carburettor (already clean the carburettor). Normal maintenance. Every 3k will change the oil filter and engine oil(15w-40 or 10w-40). Every 6k will change the Plug. Every 1 year change the air filter. Sprocket and chain usually last me for 8 months before change. Is this anything to do with the air filter? After the last cleaning the problem start to arise but already open and change to k&n high air flow air filter but the problem still persist. This post has been edited by febreze2xxx: Aug 1 2014, 07:28 PM
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TSalexei	Aug 5 2014, 07:22 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #473
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(febreze2xxx @ Aug 1 2014, 07:23 PM) Bike running well but can feel some kind of pausing during 100km or above like something choking the carburettor (already clean the carburettor). Normal maintenance. Every 3k will change the oil filter and engine oil(15w-40 or 10w-40). Every 6k will change the Plug. Every 1 year change the air filter. Sprocket and chain usually last me for 8 months before change. Is this anything to do with the air filter? After the last cleaning the problem start to arise but already open and change to k&n high air flow air filter but the problem still persist. Very decently maintained. Better use 15W-40, higher film strength than 10W-40. Which version of the carb is yours using? VM or BS carb? I worry is the BS carb, that the diaphragm may start to have problem. But, if it's the VM carb, let me ask more questions: - is it like throttle choke when you increase throttle? - or, is it like engine jerk when you keep the same throttle, while the bike accelerates steadily, and suddenly it happens?
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tangenttheta	Aug 6 2014, 02:31 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #474
Getting Started Junior Member 62 posts Joined: Dec 2013	hi im new to motorbike here~ wanna to ask about 135 LC. im attracted to its fancy exterior which is so stylish and elegant. wanna to ask which generation of LC is better? 1st gen/ 2nd gen/ 3rd gen, heard my fren told me about the bike from thailand is having the best quality so far, is it true? but it has been discontinued. im planning to buy a 2nd hand 135 LC which is just a few years(2-5 years old) any suggestion which things i have to ask/ queery from the seller before i proceed with buying it? i like the red colored 135 and the owner who wish to let go maybe can reply to my thread here. very much appreciated. =)
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TSalexei	Aug 6 2014, 01:20 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #475
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	tangentthetaWelcome to the forum. Buy from a reputable shop that gives warranty for used bikes. Bring a friend who owns a bike together with you. If you know how, ask and check for accident and saman history. The sellers are not required to be honest. Google some tips online on purchasing used bikes...
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febreze2xxx	Aug 6 2014, 08:33 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #476
Casual Junior Member 421 posts Joined: Apr 2009	QUOTE(alexei @ Aug 5 2014, 07:22 AM) Very decently maintained. Better use 15W-40, higher film strength than 10W-40. Which version of the carb is yours using? VM or BS carb? I worry is the BS carb, that the diaphragm may start to have problem. But, if it's the VM carb, let me ask more questions: - is it like throttle choke when you increase throttle? - or, is it like engine jerk when you keep the same throttle, while the bike accelerates steadily, and suddenly it happens? Feels like the second one engine jerk when the throttle at the same position. Carb still the original one. using LC 135 V2.
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cahayamalamku	Aug 6 2014, 11:58 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #477
Getting Started Junior Member 171 posts Joined: Mar 2008 From: earth	simple question: i found out that my lc very hard to start if i leave if for more than 2 days. need to pull the choke and start > then start it without choke pulled. repeat the steps for 4-5 times only then the engine can start. i leave my 20 year old ex5 like more than 3 weeks but i can start it with 1 attempt without the need of using the choke at all. my ex5 battery and plug are more than 3 years old already...
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TSalexei	Aug 7 2014, 06:10 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #478
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(cahayamalamku @ Aug 6 2014, 11:58 PM) simple question: i found out that my lc very hard to start if i leave if for more than 2 days. need to pull the choke and start > then start it without choke pulled. repeat the steps for 4-5 times only then the engine can start. i leave my 20 year old ex5 like more than 3 weeks but i can start it with 1 attempt without the need of using the choke at all. my ex5 battery and plug are more than 3 years old already... The EX5 mia FC good or bad? when pulas kuat, got asap hitam or not? A well jetted carb is supposed to be harder to start when it is cold. When you pull the choke, it will draw more fuel to get it started by burning rich. After warm up liao, then the engine will run smooth. Otherwise, maybe the carb dried up already. Sometimes, poorly maintained bikes start easy for the wrong reasons. For my RGV, when it was maintained well, every morning I need to pull the choke, just a bit to rich the fuel. It will run slowly to warm up... and slowly close the choke. Once warmed up, it can fly. FC is 180km per 5 liter and 280km on highway, better than all 4 stroke kapcai except FZ... tsk tsk tsk... Compared to other RGV, morning start one kick, but asap banyak, one tank highway jalan baru 120km. Hope this explains a bit.
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TSalexei	Aug 7 2014, 06:13 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #479
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	QUOTE(febreze2xxx @ Aug 6 2014, 08:33 PM) Feels like the second one engine jerk when the throttle at the same position. Carb still the original one. using LC 135 V2. I think the diaphragm on the BS carb needs to be checked. A reason I think of, is when the speed increases, the diaphragm supposed to go up like opening throttle. But, instead, it probably juddered and caused a choke at a certain engine RPM. Otherwise, if it does not cause too much trouble to you, you can safely ignore it.
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cahayamalamku	Aug 7 2014, 07:47 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #480
Getting Started Junior Member 171 posts Joined: Mar 2008 From: earth	QUOTE(alexei @ Aug 7 2014, 06:10 PM) The EX5 mia FC good or bad? when pulas kuat, got asap hitam or not? A well jetted carb is supposed to be harder to start when it is cold. When you pull the choke, it will draw more fuel to get it started by burning rich. After warm up liao, then the engine will run smooth. Otherwise, maybe the carb dried up already. Sometimes, poorly maintained bikes start easy for the wrong reasons. For my RGV, when it was maintained well, every morning I need to pull the choke, just a bit to rich the fuel. It will run slowly to warm up... and slowly close the choke. Once warmed up, it can fly. FC is 180km per 5 liter and 280km on highway, better than all 4 stroke kapcai except FZ... tsk tsk tsk... Compared to other RGV, morning start one kick, but asap banyak, one tank highway jalan baru 120km. Hope this explains a bit. ok i thought my lc got problem... lol
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lms2005	Aug 7 2014, 09:14 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #481
Regular Senior Member 1,270 posts Joined: May 2005 From: somewhere else	QUOTE(alexei @ Aug 7 2014, 06:10 PM) The EX5 mia FC good or bad? when pulas kuat, got asap hitam or not? A well jetted carb is supposed to be harder to start when it is cold. When you pull the choke, it will draw more fuel to get it started by burning rich. After warm up liao, then the engine will run smooth. Otherwise, maybe the carb dried up already. Sometimes, poorly maintained bikes start easy for the wrong reasons. For my RGV, when it was maintained well, every morning I need to pull the choke, just a bit to rich the fuel. It will run slowly to warm up... and slowly close the choke. Once warmed up, it can fly. FC is 180km per 5 liter and 280km on highway, better than all 4 stroke kapcai except FZ... tsk tsk tsk... Compared to other RGV, morning start one kick, but asap banyak, one tank highway jalan baru 120km. Hope this explains a bit. My lc only can get 150km per full tank only...
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febreze2xxx	Aug 8 2014, 08:21 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #482
Casual Junior Member 421 posts Joined: Apr 2009	QUOTE(alexei @ Aug 7 2014, 06:13 PM) I think the diaphragm on the BS carb needs to be checked. A reason I think of, is when the speed increases, the diaphragm supposed to go up like opening throttle. But, instead, it probably juddered and caused a choke at a certain engine RPM. Otherwise, if it does not cause too much trouble to you, you can safely ignore it. I see. Is there any recommendation shop around gombak? I do ask the mechanic nearby my area to clean my carb but did not notice this problem.
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cahayamalamku	Aug 15 2014, 09:25 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #483
Getting Started Junior Member 171 posts Joined: Mar 2008 From: earth	hi guys! my current ODO is around 1,500km. QUOTE 1st: 2.833; 2nd: 1.875; 3rd: 1.429; 4th: 1.167; 5th: 0.963 i would like to ask a question, is it normal while riding slowly (speed around 30-50kmh)... - if use 3rd gear, i feel a little vibration at foot during acceleration/ deceleration - if use 4th gear, no vibration (normal) and no problem even the speed < 30kmh end up, i rarely hold at 3rd gear, that's mean either 4th or 2nd when it's really slow. thanks in advance for any feedback
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thianz	Aug 15 2014, 06:26 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #484
New Member Junior Member 16 posts Joined: Jan 2009	QUOTE(cahayamalamku @ Aug 15 2014, 09:25 AM) hi guys! my current ODO is around 1,500km. i would like to ask a question, is it normal while riding slowly (speed around 30-50kmh)... - if use 3rd gear, i feel a little vibration at foot during acceleration/ deceleration - if use 4th gear, no vibration (normal) and no problem even the speed < 30kmh end up, i rarely hold at 3rd gear, that's mean either 4th or 2nd when it's really slow. thanks in advance for any feedback <30 ... pakai la gear 2 atau 3 ..... nanti abis lu mia clutch plate
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Rascal Stitch	Aug 17 2014, 10:42 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #485
New Member Junior Member 40 posts Joined: Apr 2010 From: Old Klang Road~	QUOTE(lms2005 @ Aug 7 2014, 10:14 PM) My lc only can get 150km per full tank only... ur engine oil got over filled wor...? mine over a bit than gave me bad fc edi~ got time need to go over my fren's shop to suck up d etra oil to lighten my lc to achive back 200km per tank~
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thianz	Aug 17 2014, 11:44 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #486
New Member Junior Member 16 posts Joined: Jan 2009	QUOTE(Rascal Stitch @ Aug 17 2014, 10:42 AM) ur engine oil got over filled wor...? mine over a bit than gave me bad fc edi~ got time need to go over my fren's shop to suck up d etra oil to lighten my lc to achive back 200km per tank~ tuang abes 1L jer .....
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lms2005	Aug 17 2014, 12:00 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #487
Regular Senior Member 1,270 posts Joined: May 2005 From: somewhere else	QUOTE(Rascal Stitch @ Aug 17 2014, 10:42 AM) ur engine oil got over filled wor...? mine over a bit than gave me bad fc edi~ got time need to go over my fren's shop to suck up d etra oil to lighten my lc to achive back 200km per tank~ 200km? how fast u travel? 40km/h?
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hollowsxd	Aug 17 2014, 02:04 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #488
New Member Junior Member 30 posts Joined: Aug 2012 From: Klang	sup, newbie here, wanted to buy a bike, got some recommendation around klang area ? thanks
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Rascal Stitch	Aug 17 2014, 10:37 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #489
New Member Junior Member 40 posts Joined: Apr 2010 From: Old Klang Road~	QUOTE(thianz @ Aug 17 2014, 12:44 PM) tuang abes 1L jer ..... 1L confirm die lor~ normally i put ard 800ml edi at max line edi~ QUOTE(lms2005 @ Aug 17 2014, 01:00 PM) 200km? how fast u travel? 40km/h? averagely70-90km/h wen i to work at Lim Tayar taman tun~ but wen i to top speed once a while it goes down to 180-160kms per tank~
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thianz	Aug 17 2014, 10:51 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #490
New Member Junior Member 16 posts Joined: Jan 2009	QUOTE(Rascal Stitch @ Aug 17 2014, 10:37 PM) 1L confirm die lor~ normally i put ard 800ml edi at max line edi~ averagely70-90km/h wen i to work at Lim Tayar taman tun~ but wen i to top speed once a while it goes down to 180-160kms per tank~ 800ml max line ? u sure boh ... try start engine thn check again ...... 1 pour 1L also no feeling berat pun ....
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Rascal Stitch	Aug 17 2014, 11:56 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #491
New Member Junior Member 40 posts Joined: Apr 2010 From: Old Klang Road~	QUOTE(thianz @ Aug 17 2014, 11:51 PM) 800ml max line ? u sure boh ... try start engine thn check again ...... 1 pour 1L also no feeling berat pun .... if i leave my bike over nite n let it dripped to d last drop will take ard 900ml but normally i do it fast n only takes 800-850 only~
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thianz	Aug 18 2014, 08:46 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #492
New Member Junior Member 16 posts Joined: Jan 2009	QUOTE(Rascal Stitch @ Aug 17 2014, 11:56 PM) if i leave my bike over nite n let it dripped to d last drop will take ard 900ml but normally i do it fast n only takes 800-850 only~ pakai EO ringan .... 1L wont feel at all
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Rascal Stitch	Aug 18 2014, 11:45 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #493
New Member Junior Member 40 posts Joined: Apr 2010 From: Old Klang Road~	QUOTE(thianz @ Aug 18 2014, 09:46 PM) pakai EO ringan .... 1L wont feel at all dun like too light cuz wen i high revingvery noisy~
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thianz	Aug 19 2014, 04:43 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #494
New Member Junior Member 16 posts Joined: Jan 2009	QUOTE(Rascal Stitch @ Aug 18 2014, 11:45 PM) dun like too light cuz wen i high revingvery noisy~ thn pakai 20-50 .... pekat ... sedap ....
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NewGUY	Aug 19 2014, 04:55 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #495
On my way Junior Member 515 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Currently in Selangor	QUOTE(thianz @ Aug 19 2014, 04:43 PM) thn pakai 20-50 .... pekat ... sedap .... would be 10w 50 or 15w 50 for mod bike 20w 50 too thick... std blok as in LC or FZ, apa minyak pun ok, use for 5k tukar also ok, manual say is 2k la Modded big blok for cap burung,for lasting change EO best at 1k, not more than 1.5k thanks to Tim shark blok, this yr overhaul 3x...and of cos too long change EO now with UMA, today oni run almost 1.2k km....
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thianz	Aug 19 2014, 05:03 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #496
New Member Junior Member 16 posts Joined: Jan 2009	QUOTE(NewGUY @ Aug 19 2014, 04:55 PM) would be 10w 50 or 15w 50 for mod bike 20w 50 too thick... std blok as in LC or FZ, apa minyak pun ok, use for 5k tukar also ok, manual say is 2k la Modded big blok for cap burung,for lasting change EO best at 1k, not more than 1.5k thanks to Tim shark blok, this yr overhaul 3x...and of cos too long change EO now with UMA, today oni run almost 1.2k km.... blok sudah masak la .. 1.2k km .....
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NewGUY	Aug 19 2014, 05:39 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #497
On my way Junior Member 515 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Currently in Selangor	QUOTE(thianz @ Aug 19 2014, 05:03 PM) blok sudah masak la .. 1.2k km ..... shud be, now change rear tire to 80/90 as really x dare to go faster with 70/90 today also send to service fork, change oil, oil seal, piston and etc change EO and OF n also change starter, starter 80k km also cant tahan with big bore.... plug in UMA reinforced starter..... now whole big all use UMA product.....
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TSalexei	Aug 19 2014, 06:30 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #498
Biker Mice from Mars Senior Member 1,878 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Medan, ID	Best oil for viscosity and film strength is 15W-40. cahayamalamkuGet it checked at HL under warranty?
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thianz	Aug 19 2014, 06:31 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #499
New Member Junior Member 16 posts Joined: Jan 2009	QUOTE(NewGUY @ Aug 19 2014, 05:39 PM) shud be, now change rear tire to 80/90 as really x dare to go faster with 70/90 today also send to service fork, change oil, oil seal, piston and etc change EO and OF n also change starter, starter 80k km also cant tahan with big bore.... plug in UMA reinforced starter..... now whole big all use UMA product..... bila mau masuk uma super heaad ??? thn can become maju motor R&D bike liao ....
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Rascal Stitch	Aug 20 2014, 08:31 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #500
New Member Junior Member 40 posts Joined: Apr 2010 From: Old Klang Road~	QUOTE(thianz @ Aug 19 2014, 05:43 PM) thn pakai 20-50 .... pekat ... sedap .... i use either 15w50 or 20w40 for my bike's best performance~ my eo lasted me ard 1.4k km then start not nice o ride d~
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