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wady89
post Mar 5 2014, 09:37 AM

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hye guys, im newbie here..
i have use my 135lc for 3 1/2 years, the only service i done in this 3 1/2 years is minyak hitam, plug, oil filter, spoket rantai, air coolant but not in proper time as stated by you guys,
now top and pickup is decrease also it performance, what should i do to increase my beloved 135lc?? icon_question.gif icon_question.gif

any question just hit me with it laugh.gif
wady89
post Mar 5 2014, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Mar 5 2014, 10:22 AM)
Welcome, wady89.

When you say 'decrease' and 'increase', preferably if you can be more specific. Example:
- It takes 0.5s more to accelerate third gear from 80-100kmh.
- Topspeed on the same highway reduced to 110kmh, where it used to be 125kmh.

As for your service routine, have you done the carb and air filter service?
What EO do you use?
What does your spark plug look like when the old one is taken out?
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"Topspeed on the same highway reduced to 110kmh, where it used to be 125kmh"- agreed on this statement

As for your service routine, have you done the carb and air filter service?
hmm.gif err..i believe i never done this before


What EO do you use?
motul 5100 10w40 before, last EO is Castrol power1 racing 10w40


What does your spark plug look like when the old one is taken out?
i forgot about this, maybe i go check today

i just know basic of service sry sweat.gif
wady89
post Mar 5 2014, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Mar 5 2014, 11:09 AM)
Get the carb cleaned up, and notice how the different engine response when cold vs hot.
It should be difficult to start, sometimes need choke when early in the morning and the bike is cold.
When engine is hot, it should be easy to restart.
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okie dokie..thx, how about the air filter?

any more suggestion?
my rear tyre need to change, so any suggestion in term of type or brand suitable?
now i`m using 90/80 duro

This post has been edited by wady89: Mar 5 2014, 11:34 AM
wady89
post Mar 5 2014, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Mar 5 2014, 01:20 PM)
Standard air filter, just air gun clean it.
That tyre is fine, IMO.
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how about size? what is the different?
wady89
post Mar 5 2014, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Mar 5 2014, 04:10 PM)
I don't know anymore, I clean it myself.
Maybe RM15~20.
Best use standard size, 70/90 front, 80/90 rear. 90/80 rear also ok.
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thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thank you,

how about little mod to increase top or pickup??

wady89
post Mar 5 2014, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(MrBushido25 @ Mar 5 2014, 05:38 PM)
Its typical for most bike to decline in perf as time pass, as a std bike user myself, I regularly change my EO every 2000 or 1500 km mileage, you know just for guaranteed maintainance, it also depends on what EO you used as well, ask opinions of what's the best from pomen, I myself use maxoil, most people recommends jtx,shell vsx depends on your budget too though, if significant perf reduction hapens , you might wanna get your bike for some checkup, apart from these advice I got none, maybe you wanna hook up a new cdi
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i need to find best pomen in s.alam or klang area, anyone got any idea where?
wady89
post Mar 5 2014, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Mar 5 2014, 06:06 PM)
Start with stage 1 upgrade stuff. Spend some time on it.
This one?
Minor mod (increase acceleration)
1. Remove air filter.
2. Reset carburetor air-fuel setting.
3. Set valve tapette to 10 IN and 15 OUT. - RM30 labour charge @ New Bee Hock motor, Penang.
4. Change to 15-40 with 415 chain. - RM100


wady89
post Mar 6 2014, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Mar 5 2014, 10:38 PM)
Stage 1 mod concept covers a lot of stuff, but in essence anything that can be immediately bolted on, or directly swapped out from stock, without additional work to be done to the engine. It is not just about improving performance, but also handling of the vehicle.

- High flow air filter, or removed stock air filter.
- Exhaust
- Lightened wheels, chains and sprockets
- Brake pads, hose
- Engine oil (10W-30)
- Spring, fork oil, monoshock
- Spark plug, plug cable

Stage 2 can be more aggressive of stage 1 mods, require more work on the engines, or adding things:
- Intake+Exhaust port and polish: valve and tappet
- Big bore block + piston kit + carb
- Camshaft
- Crankshaft, jack rod, jack pin etc
- Gearset
- Oil cooler
- Radiator fan
- Weight reduction
- CDI remap

Stage 3 is race preparation, which I don't know a lot about.
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- High flow air filter, or removed stock air filter.
- Exhaust
- Lightened wheels, chains and sprockets
- Brake pads, hose
- Engine oil (10W-30)
- Spring, fork oil, monoshock
- Spark plug, plug cable

can give me suggestion brand, just put what you believe is the best,
how much the cost will be? estimation is ok

This post has been edited by wady89: Mar 6 2014, 01:39 PM
wady89
post Mar 7 2014, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Mar 6 2014, 11:46 PM)
Air filter can use UNI, or K&N. Not sure how much. Got other high flow ones.
Brake pads got a lot of brand, Elig, Ferodo are some I know. Making sure the pads and disc do not kena oil is the key.
Engine oil can be RM20-50+. Check page one for recommended bike EO.
Fork oil must make sure both side balance. You can use cap ayam RM3, to Motul.
Monoshock Kayaba is pretty good.
Spark plug NGK G-power RM12. Other like Iridium would be expensive around RM50. NGK plug cable about RM30, red color.

These mods above is to let your bike use better parts, and may require some minor setting adjustments such as pilot screw with the installation of high flow air filters. You can easily spend up to RM300~400, and do not get huge improvements.

Stage 2 will really burn your pocket, and that I have no experience.
Need to ask owners like serigala, thianz, crappy123.
The air filter which one better? go for high flow or remove it? if remove it, replace with what?

this minor modi that i read from past version of this group, which one is good? i`m in confius here rclxub.gif

ONE
performance:
1) 57mm block and piston
2) remove air filter (free)
3) 28mm keihin PE carb
4) extra 180 bucks for NOB1 SSS if you can get it from chongkiatz
~RM450 (exclude pipe)

handling:
1) add front fork stabilizer
2) change to bigger rear tyre (90/80)
~RM160

TWO
get a racing CDI , change to clutch plate UMA , add carrier bush faito at clutch shoes ,
nob1 SSS exhaust......can fix ur needed , no need to change any engine part such as block ,
rod cam =D
CDI = RM300
UMA clutch = RM70~80 , labour around RM20
carrier bush = RM10 , labour RM10
nob1 sss exhaust = RM180

THREE
1) use mild camshaft. Recommend to use the custom camshaft that I make if you plan to use stock engine.
2) bigger valve head (21 IN, 19 OUT)
3) port and polish cylinder head
4) stiffer valvespring
5) Racing CDI
6) 28mm carburetor
7) Bigger exhaust manifold
8) remove air filter

The predicted result is, you are able to achieve maximum horsepower from 9000 - 10000rpm.
Power would drop starting from 10krpm, but engine still can rev up to 11krpm.
Just a rough estimation. This way, you can almost preserve the low-mid rpm torque.

And I can guarantee, with the setup above, you can easily ta pau FZ150i

This post has been edited by wady89: Mar 7 2014, 12:21 PM
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post Mar 7 2014, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(crappy123 @ Mar 7 2014, 02:49 PM)
nob1 less power. use ahm m1 or yy pang. if buy second hand just change fiber. sound very power.
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so your suggestion for minor modi mr.crappy123?

wady89
post Mar 7 2014, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Mar 7 2014, 02:55 PM)
It depends what you want. You asked for minor mod...
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i`m confius xD, maybe little bit understanding ,
sry i just new person want to learn how to modified notworthy.gif
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post Mar 9 2014, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(crappy123 @ Mar 8 2014, 01:29 AM)
if got money and spare bike. straight modi 62mm with 19-22 valves jack 4mm pin nsr carb. sure satisfied.
can ride daily also no problem but makan petrol. depending on how you mechanic setting also.
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aiseh, petrol now expensive lor hmm.gif
for minor modi?
wady89
post Mar 11 2014, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(Rudd @ Mar 11 2014, 12:59 AM)
max at 120kmph. moto meter.
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i have the same problem too, how to fix? hmm.gif
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post Mar 12 2014, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Mar 11 2014, 09:40 PM)
Stock condition mia LC can be like that, especially if the carburator have never been serviced.

Check out here for a list of users who tracks their bike fuel consumption : https://www.fuelly.com/motorcycle/yamaha/lc135
As you can see, average users are getting 44-46 km per liter, so at full tank of 4 liter, that's about what you can hope to achieve.

Normally, I'm guessing, you would fill about RM7, which is 3.33 liter, multiply by 45km per liter, you get 150km per tank under normal riding condition.

After you service the carb, then track your mileage again.
The main tip to save petrol is all in the throttle control:
- Do not rev your bike at traffic light. Especially for VM carbs (mikuni round slide, all version except ES v2) because there is accelerator pump.
- Check out this video, it shows how the accelerator pump injects petrol stream into the carb as the throttle is pulled.
- Go easy on the throttle when twisting. The slower you twist it, the lesser the accelerator pump injects petrol.
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Other than that, you can try the tips below:
Pilot jet screw:
- For LC, this is a pilot fuel screw, so, the more turn out, the richer the pilot fuel circuit is.
- During carb setting, if it takes less than 1 5/8 turn to get a smooth idle for pilot screw, change to a smaller pilot jet.
- The ideal pilot jet and screw setting is, at around 1 5/8 turn of pilot screw, the bike will need a choke to start when cold, but once warmed up, off idle throttle response is good.

The above is step one, to improve your carb setting... if you can do it, let me know, then I will share some more.
It will take you a few days to figure out if the setting is right, because you need to let the bike sit cold overnight, and try to start it the next morning.
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nice solution, may try it this evening...

what should i tell pomen if i wanted to adjust the pilot jet? or can i make it myself?
wady89
post Mar 24 2014, 03:47 PM

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Guys, where can i find this part? icon_question.gif
some fool steal it rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
wady89
post Jun 22 2014, 06:51 AM

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hi there people...any shop recomended in banting or closer area to service and modified anything?
wady89
post Jun 28 2014, 10:30 AM

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hi there people...any shop, sifu recomended in banting, shah alam or closer area to service and modified anything?
name it tq

 

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