Just wondering, I think I did see it once but the thread just somehow dissapeared.
Let's have a discussion group about the Kelisa.

I'm getting the black "Special Edition GX" but the saleslady advised that I wait for the "Limited Edition" or god knows what edition that'll be released on the 17th of March.
So I'mma wait till 17th March and see.

Got some mods that I'mma get a few mods so I'll need suggestions of good brands;

1. Suspensions.
2. Anti-roll bars.
3. Changing the front lips to something more menacing.
4. Heard the tires are noisy, so if it's really terrible I'll get something that's less noisy.

Do give me some suggestions and recommendations of better models and brands.

Any Kelisa owners?

This post has been edited by pizzaboy: Apr 11 2006, 10:08 PM

www.kelisaclub.com ?
www.k2oc.com ?

ah keh , just said both the clubs. i'm in both clubs.

anybody here realize that new badge of Kelisa that their plate number not well centered is it purposely or defect?

the number plates are obvious not in the middle if you're using those 2 lines type of plates.

as for the single line plates it's still reasonably middle looking.

i think it's party due to the engine design where the oil filter is slightly off to the driver side. so they need to create a hole for the hands to reach it, so to cover the hole number plate would be mounted slightly off.

pizzaman getting a kelisa
when i go to mlk bring me rounding ya

not too sure bout the mods but for sus+abs get the gab adjustable wan...my friend has it in his kelisa and it is alot sharper than the stock wan...price not too sure...must get back to him...

i mean down here. not at those forums. i joined both already too.

sure!~
I think those are about RM1500 for a set. Read from ZTH. I'm gonna aim for the Apex, yellow color ones...kcyap recomend.

a vr neat kelisa in my campus...

his name is deanz.

hey bro ..
getting a kelisa very very soon....

just drop to perodua outlet...n asked the sales person about the price of kelisa 1.0cc Auto ..n god knows...is rm 40k+ for metalic...so exp...

I assume 1.0 auto approx rm 37k+ based from perodua website. without accessories....

And the price he he gave was rm 40k+ include accessories.
For the whit solid colour is rm 39k+

Besides tat....Kenari standard auto is rm 42k..just rm 2k+ differences compare to kelisa standard....*confuse* now...

So which one i should get.??? kelisa / kenari???

Kelisa SE have to wait 1 month and is rm 42k as well...

Even kancil SE cost rm 31k+ wow...really syock me...so exp...

I need a car soon to get to work..so any opinion from u guys????


thanks for reading~~

Looks like a car from MMU. But actually a lot of MMu students buy the kelisa N modify oso lar.

I'd get the kelis still
Kenari like box annen turn that time macam kereta nak jatuh aja.

kelisa..u sure?

i heard that perodua had increased the price of perodua cars....

what about kancil?

ooo.... i dont know who the owner is... i admire the car only...
can ask him what bodykit he use??... i ask other forums adi, no one seems to know what bodykit he take from... or custom bodykit??...

many satria turbo as well in MMU... mine jz a slow tortoise....

kancil good... can reach speeds up to 956kmh... bravo bravo...

It is wiser to get a Kelisa eventhough it is second-hand instead of a brand new Kancil. A Kelisa has much better pickup, more top speed, slightly more larger, more secure, & better handling.

nah, kancil stock's worthless as my friends say;
"Once in a kelisa, never in a kancil"

you heard, but then i see still sama aja the price
i'm just waiting for the new edition, see how it looks like
dengar it's DVVT engine, so that'snice.

so when is the new edition kelisa coming out?

need car urgent...

Do u have any website to *peak* the new car /new design?

hehe thanks..

if not i tomoro go sign up the loan

that's the problem
i can't find a single site that gives a sneak peak at the new kelisa.
yet i'll wait, if you think it's so urgent then just buy first lar
then i'll show you when it comes up.

it's a 1/2 cut, he fabricated the mountings.

if not mistaken it's the rare opti model.

not so rare, only rare in malaysia as the part is not plug and play in kelisa, only engine is plug n play other than dat..

L800 Opti Beex Aerodown.

so iz true perodua coming out new kelisa design?

u sure 17th of March or iz just a rumour????/

i donno, I'd think that 2 sales rep of the perodua main centre tellin me 17 march come out new design, should be true.
What's your take?

Anyway, I'm gonna read about some turbochargers, apparently they actually provide better fuel efficency and more power (duh~)
Wonder if I'll snag 80 ponies?

Im in both clubs too.

He's my friend. I was in MMU malacca last time, now in cyberjaya already.

Long time no see u lah gorilla.

Well think i'm gonna be outta this kelisa group before even joining.....lol
goin for the myvi instead...and extra 7K with a bigger sized car.
Who can resist?

here goes the arduous wait.

This post has been edited by pizzaboy: Mar 5 2006, 07:19 PM

kelisa latest model is out....

the salesman called me up and ask me to buy it..rm 43k

extra rm 1k comapre to kelisa SE..

Hey guys...some question to ask ~~

Will u guys choose Kelisa 1.0 (A) rm 41k xx or Iswara 1.3 (m) rm 32,888,99.

Need urgent opinion here...really urgent..

got picture new kelisa?

IMHO, Kelisa of course. Faster, lower mantainence, fuel-injected, and it was designed in the 90's.

the new iswara is rather too...........fugly and then with the new facelift the exhaust noise is terrible. it looks like a tank with those bumpers.

bit iswara comes with bigger space, kelisa have smaller sizes.

based on the price different of rm 8k between iswara n kelisa which car will u go for?

how good is fuel injected for kelisa n what is the majar diff for carburator ???

i got a kelisa instead of iswara. i got the same question like you last time. 8k differ is quite a sum. just give a test drive of both car.

frankly if space is what you need go for iswara. comfort in spaciousess but the exhaust noise is another topic, it's too noisy.

if you wanted zippy acceleration, kelisa is the one. seriously it live up to it's 'engineered for fun' motto.

for previous 1.60 per lit fuel it could get me 430 at rm41, mainly at urban driving, lot's of driving through major traffic jam area entire week.

This post has been edited by andychee81: Mar 11 2006, 09:50 AM

@andychee81

can u tell me more on kelisa . Y u choose kelisa not iswara? u said u have the same question too. But now i facing the same things. rm 8k diff.

kelisa have twincam (fuel injected), power windows, alram system, center lock, sport rim, PS and is Auto. but for the price of rm 40k

Iswara got nothing as what i describe and is using good old days carburator method. But for a price tag at rm 32kxx and the rim like spare rim from the back of your boot.

what u guys think.

can anyone impress me on getting kelisa? plan to get it 2day either kelisa 1.0 (a) or iswara

thanks

well i thing for sure i would prefer new tech than old tech. it got power steering, 2 power front window and in built nokia handsfree. f/c is better, better acceleration and easy to navigate in tight areas. i'm living in an urban area so i would hardly travel on highway. did went to johor and penang with it. high speed some could reach more than the meter could show(new edition one heard got speed cut at 140kmph) but not recommended it's power steering would be too 'floaty'. most importantly i'm assured the quality control is slightly better, not too sure on current QC on proton but last time proton qc and warranty was very bad.

i having the se old model manual. recommended take manual instead of auto. but then it's stll up to your preference. sometimes kelisa on auto also scary fast.

better make sometime test drive both cars instead of relying on opinions. it's the best way to compare them.

This post has been edited by andychee81: Mar 11 2006, 10:42 AM

Iswara specs

ENGINE : 4G13 12V SOHC
BORE X STROKE : 71 mm x 82 mm
TOTAL DISPLACEMENT: 1298 cc
COMPRESSION RATIO : 9.5:1
MAXIMUM OUTPUT : 62 kW (83hp) @ 6000 rpm
MAXIMUM TORQUE : 109 Nm @ 4000 rpm
FUEL SYSTEM :Carburettor
FUEL TANK CAPACITY : 45 litre
TRANSMISSION : 5FM21, 5 speed manual
FINAL GEAR RATIO : 4.322
POWER ASSISTED STEERING : Standard
CURB WEIGHT : 970 kg


Kelisa 1.0

Engine Type : Water-cooled, 4 cycle , in-line, transverse engne
Valve mechanism : DOHC-4 valve per cylinder
Total displacement (cc): 989cc
Bore x stroke (mm) : 72 x 81
Compression : 10.1
Max. Output : 40.5 KW / 5200rpm
Max. torque : 88.3 Nm / 3600rpm
Fuel system : EFI
Fuel tank capacity (liter) : 40
Weight : 806kg


iswara might have the bigger HP and slighly higher torque, but more heavier at 100kg.

so in conclusion? what u guys will go for???

still doubting the price diff of rm 8k~~~

why not consider savvy?

because savvy is protong and shouldn't be given half a consideration.

terence, if you try both cars, which I did (I drive the Iswara aeroback) and you'll feel the handling of the kelisa, much nippier even with stock stuff.

The pickup, considerably better albeit it's merely an auto.
The fuel consumption is also better, and in the long run your wallet will thank you for it.
I mean, 1L-15KM min. How many cars do that rite?

Also, got a better future resale value. Kelisa for me.
RM8K, I think you can handle it.

If I were u, i would choose kelisa if your max budget is 41k. Drove Iswara, Kelisa and even Savvy before. Iswara is a no no for me. The version i drove is a power steering-less one. It is like turning with a flat tyre. The engine is noise is terrible and the build quality is below average. While the kelisa is fun to drive and it have low end touque make it one of the car that have best pick up ever. Build quality is better than iswara but the cabin space is quite cramp. But if u are willing to splash out a few Ks more, i advise u to get a savvy. It have better built quality than the iswara and does not looks plasticy at all. IMO, the quality is better than the iswara more. I am not too sure bout the FC but i recon is between the kelisa and iswara. So is up to you. For me is either Savvy or Kelisa. No No to the potong iswara. You are buying a 80'ies car in 2006.

Edit : sorry pizzaboy for going off topic a little

This post has been edited by tifosi: Mar 11 2006, 12:10 PM

Another...... Klisaclub, From my hometown(kelantan). Only Turbo Kelisa allowed to join.

why not consider Plotong car? simple! because if you buy a new Plotong car tat means you already buying an secondhand car other than Potong!

the only proton car worth lookin at, personally for me, is the perdana...maybe the GTI too, but nah....perdana

iswara is 80's car!.. JAPANaSE SAGA = LANCER FIORE were released in 1983...
i mean in japan....
the technologies in more than 20years old..

http://www.auto.vl.ru/catalog/mitsubishi/l...r/1983_0/photo/

whaa...20 yrs old car...



means when proton saga copy lancer in Japan? whaa what a copy cat.

But the lancer in japan really looks like proton saga la..~ really syock me~

hey guys.

How's the cd player given by kelisa? iz good need to change better one?

will the standard cd player will *jump* track when go through the hump.?

How's the aircon, cool enough?

How much is the full tank?

THanks for reading all the question.~

hmm.. between the new proton Iswara and Kelisa, Id choose the kelisa. Its fun to drive and not to mention the low end torque. Auto version of kelisa having a pretty bad fuel consumption. Ever since fuel price increased 30cent, I always keep my eyes on the reve meter.. lol..
My fren drove his father's Civic 1.7 and when he borrowed my car, he said its much funner to drive with kelisa rather than his own father's Civic..
And the best part is, its pretty simple to park this car, bcos of the size.
For ppl that having height more that is taller, I dont reccomend kelisa.

how u describe *funny* in kelisa?

can elobrate more~

what colour u guys will go for..

i prefer Blue~ hehe

do all kelisa models come with power steering? need to ask cos mom thinking of getting one budget car with power steering..

i don't think ANY modern cars don't ahve power steering.

kelisa 1.0 model all comes with power steering, only the 850 ones dun have i think

@ terencetoo
the stock cd have in built nokia handsfree, if you change it you won't able to use it. but then i'm using sony ericsson....i changed to better ones.

air con. no prob with it. the vents are quite close to the passenger in front.

full tank would be 45lit.

the saga design was taken from mitsu previously. it's a tech transfer kind of deal.

@leenux
yup kelisa 1.0 cc comes with power steering.

@andychee81

Btw im not using nokia too..tat handsfree is too old type. And im using SE too hehe nevertheless i have BT dongle~ no wirries for me to change cd player.

Can i tell the manufactur dont charged me money? coz i feel the speakers phone and dono what handsfree installation is kind of wasting money. Not many ppl use it IMO. The parts cost alot too~

dunno la, last time i asked them to leave this and that they said cannot coz it's standard acc.

full tank is 40litre. but usually when it touches E..the max you can oni pump is around 32litre..

is it just me, or does every kelisa cd player skip the first few seconds of a cd track?

It happens.
yep~
The slightly better thing about it, is that it doesn't usually skip when you go through bumps.
Buffer?

ehehe i follow the spec from the website.

hmm.. yea.. kelisa's full tank is 40litre and when the meter reach E, it acctually reserves about 8 litre in the tank for u to get the closest petrol station to refill.. (been through this before..)

cd player? hmm.. my car doesn't have it since its the first batch..

fun car to drive in terms of city driving, looking for a place to park the car, etc..
I think kelisa tends to understeer easily.. especially when raining..

yahoo...getting my new baby in 10 working days eheh

wonder SE black edition nic anot? or the gemilang blue~~ hehe

ohh yeah i ask the salesman, he said the handsfree is fixed by the gov so is a must to add in. sigh wasting ppl's money only.

Count me in for the member of kelisa hehe

Kelisa onwer:
==>Terencetoo @Gemilang Blue
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ah tot the black was the bomb!~

welcome to the club! please do join in www.kelisaclub.com

wow.. u got urself SE with gemilang blue kelisa? wow.. But me prefer the black SE

SE royal blue~~~ here.

Any mod can be made on kelisa?

lot's of them. just head to the club website.

The first thing worth changing is the springs and the absorbers, but not recomended on a new car. Once changed, car will lowered two inches and cornering is pretty stable , even above 110km/h. No need braking on sharp corners.

haha i haven get the number plate yet. cant register leh~

lower the spring...lots of $$$ need to use bro~ hehe

maybe change better sound system in the car eheh

Kelisa Imago is rm 41,7xx improvement in leather seat and steering and its Green colour , no skirts nothing.

Ewww...leather seats are hot.

I've did a bit of reading on the mods for the Kelisa. Recommended ones are;

- Change rims to 15" (RM600 and above)
- Front and back strut bars (RM230+)
- Replace the entire suspension system (RM900+-) Apex springs go for RM1500 alone. I don't think I'll recommend Apex.
- Voltage stabilizers+Grouding kits (RM300)
- Open pod air filters (RM300)

- Turbocharger? I donno the cost of this, but I do know it's really fun to have one.

15" for kelisa is rather heavy, it's optimal would be at 14". unless you can afford lightweight 15".

the ori suspension is good nuff unless you go for somewhat spirited driving and dun care less on comfort or passengers go for springs, i've tred from kimex, dr.spring, t-speed, h&r, eibach, eventually you'll have to change your absorber too using them. for now i'm using adjustables where by there's still comfort yet same handling as spring mod onli. if got cash save up and go full blown adjustables, adjust the comfort and handling up to your liking. you got titan and hwl to choose

VS and grounding can be for last mod, not much differ as i felt, opt for extractor and rear end piping. go for powerzone or hotbits. try not those cap ayam ones.

open pod once again not recommended for kelisa unless you can route the air from outside as the open pod would be usually sitting directly behind the radiator, no matter what heat shield you put also will suck some hot air from it. there's one piping named hurricane where the ram connects from the trottle body to the eft hand side far away from the raidator, but then i see the tubing is rather huge and there's 180 turn after the trttlebody, might slow down the air flow speed. try sucking a drink from a huge straw and have 180 turn, and another one smaller size. you'll get what i mean. recommended is using drop in types ie. pipercross or KNN.

turbochargers well for bolt on gonna set you back bout 1.5k+. boosting would be limited to small range. dunno bout you, but i seen many guys complaint bout their bolt on not performing like they expected and they sold it off.

enjoy your fishy mods~~~~

This post has been edited by andychee81: Mar 13 2006, 08:49 AM

whoo.....kewl~
Lidat dunit waste time at ZTH ler, I shud've just asked you.

Any mods u can recommend for the MYVI? The number.1 mod I'm goin for is definitely removing the world's most horrendous ass bumper with something much slimmer.

Then I'll be goin for set of 15" rims and strut bars. Anything for the engine perhaps?
It's a lame car, I agree...but my dad wants to use it as a family cruise car as well. Bah!!
And we could've saved like 10K just buying me a second hand modified Civic EG with a the 1.6 DOHC V-tec engine. I could've had 200 ponies, and now I'm down with about 80 ponies.

for myvi, i think head to myviclub.com for ideas. i have no idea what mod thy got.

@andychee81

Hey bro~ can u pls explain more on the mod u advidse?

-->Strut bars
-->Voltage stabilizers+Grouding kits
-->Open port air filter.

Im noob to cars..but willing to learn hehe~

Thanks

thanks

strut bar you got zenden and ultraracing to choose from. both tested they are good products.

those VS and grounding only give tiny amount of improvement. so better use your money on other things first.

open pod. well kelisa engine bay is pretty cramped and open pod drectly from the trottle body is not ideal as the hot air from the radiator finds it's way to it, hot air=no good. you can use a cold air intake hose from the front grill to the filter to rectify it. i would recommend use those replacement types instead of open pod.

seriously i'm still in learning process, better head to kelisaclub.com and ask the guys there.

As for the springs, you doesn't need to purchase those expensive like Koni, Titan, and so forth. Just get those entry level like Kayaba, APM, etc, coz the kerb weight of a Kelisa is very light compared to other sedan cars.

APM = Kayaba

entry level they give sligth improvement but still not up to a level of mid range or higher range of brands, it's just feel like original just bout 10% stiffer. each ppl got differ handling 'feeling' i dislike bodyroll yet hate bumpy feeling.

no doubt APM performax range gives me back some comfort i need when i'm using progressive springs like H&R.

rather than trial and error between spring and absorber it's very hard to match each spring with a correct brand of absorber, full set adjustables is cheaper in long term.

wow heard that new kelisa facelift coming up tis wed !!!

A good recomendation from andychee... about the turbo stuff, if u like the psstttttt sound then its something nice to try but its a bit expensive and the power u gain is not worth it all... try to do the mods like what andychee suggested and u can smile for what u spend.

i'm no guru, but i'm giving my honest non bias opinion on products i've used on my car b4. higher speed need better brakes.

if you wanted to keep the stock calipers you can change your disc to axt cross drill/slotted ones and match it with EBC pads. fast braking response but overheat darn easy, good nuff for urban roads but not on downhill speeding it seems this combination like the disc heats up the pad much easier than stock disc with EBC. i'm not sure bout bendix, but it's claimed to have a very good braking and it's affordable BUT!! long term your disc will be skimmed much faster, i've seen it on my friend's car.

if you wanted something bigger and just PnP, caliper and disc you can use L9 ones, you got project u pads and sumitomo ori pads to choose from and i've just received a tip that myvi ones also can be put on the car w/out modding anything, you got normal pads and endless pads to choose from.

or just get those steel braided hose and change your brake fluid to DOT4 and above. changed your braking feeling. much direct feel no spongy effect.

and drive safely.

This post has been edited by andychee81: Mar 13 2006, 11:43 PM

Anyone tint his/her kelisa?

Mind to share the price and brand of tinted?

mine new baby coming soon within few more days..

2day the bank just approve the loan hehe

cheap and reputable shop can go for aircool. http://www.aircool.com.my/home.htm

i did mine at the HQ site at rm350. lowest end wan la.

how u claim is the lowest end one?
Any colours to choose? light blue or light green sort of style?

hey guys...my car coming on thursday hehehe

cant hardly wait.

Btw, i saw a black myvi 2day, i notice mvyi side mirror have those signal lights indicator. I wonder any Kelisian change the side mirror similiar to thosr luxury car eg, myvi those type. And can u tell me approx the price.

Thanks alot~

does it have for kelisas?

another limited edition looks with iguana paint
no big surprise

nobody wants to buy the kelisa~
the sales promoter say the pricing of kelisa and myvi very close.
kenari and myvi even closer, so people all go with myvi.
the ones that cannot wait, instead just go with Savvy (join the dark side? NEVER!! Proton shal never enter my house)

proton with r3 aerokit looks nice IMO.

but i do not like it's interior, feel plasticky and the steering rack is rather too high for me.

ya.. now in most perodua showroom. 10 out of car been booked, 4 is Myvi and the other 6 is Kembara or Kancil or Kelisa or Kenari..

not to say kelisa not good.

just the waiting list for myvi too long. not worth of getting 1.0 myvi with rm 41k.

i know kelisa 1.0 Auto cost rm 41k too. but IMO. if u need a car within 10 days, kelisa still the best option for those fresh graduate or low average income ppl like me.

Imagine u have to fork out extra rm 5k to get kenari/myvi instead of kelisa. Although rm 5k is not much compare to those ppl who work for so many yrs. But for me, if hard to pay the monthly installment which is so high. Dont forget u still have to put at least 10% downpayment for the car.

So kelisa still worth of getting although the price a bit pricy. IMHO~~

I love my Kelisa..

me too..btw my baby arrive 2day....waiting for the salesgirl call me hehehe~~ @she's pretty too hehe

don't forget to join us at www.kelisaclub.com
there's lotsa modded kelisa there, lotsa sifu to help u

ohh okie thanks..

btw i have some minor prob dono iz a *prob* actually.

here goes:

the steering when u trun 180 degree u can hear the sound of turning like *keer keer keer* something like not enough oil sort for the steering.

And when i 1 2 stop or shift o *P* sign, the car will shake. Is like manual mode that the clurch not accelarate probably when the car will shake like *keluk keluk* shaking sound? wonder iz bcoz the car is 1.0CC (A) or engine mode?

I drove waja dont have this type pf prob when u change the Auto gear.

i think u better send it back to the dealer for a fast check up.. for a new car shouldnt be any sort of sound coming out..

or do u oversome when u 1 2 stop the car will shake?

or maybe is a new car need to drive at least 1 or 2 weeks to get all the components use to it? (i mean car)

coz now is only 55km i drove...

i dont know much mate. I only drive the car few years after my mom bought it. sorry mate.. couldnt help u much.

shake when the gear already shift to P? no idea..

but the steering giving sound is normal la..

haa...steering sound is normal...

a rm 40k car orr...so minor prob perodua canot fix it.

nvm when my 1000km service i will tell them to solve it.

hai....

got car on 24th , car reduce price on 24th as well..what a sad story...at the price of 40k, top up another 3k can get myvi 1.3cc sigh.~

hehe because mine also giving sound, ask few people before they also say their car also like that. Main reason is the wheel bearing turning to their limit.

wheel bearing..can solve?

very annoying la...like very cheap made~~

btw any accessories shop tat provide kelisa parts..such as bodykit etc....

Thanks

pls state location ~~ hehe

u can ask in kelisaclub.com they have heaps of parts available..