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This post has been edited by FenomX: Apr 21 2012, 05:19 PM

First!!

wah so fast v4 <--- ayat standard

FUHHHHHH V4 already on the 2nd day of the car's launch

This post has been edited by Nightstalker1993: Apr 17 2012, 10:50 PM

why the old one not yet reach 2500 then open a new version?

third!

walao, you have hand of god

This post has been edited by FenomX: Apr 17 2012, 10:52 PM

Joined

Hand of god la mang

this...

put me in the list K2002 | Silver | CFE CVT

Masuk Preve thread semangat gila. BTW, u are fifth.

no place booking no name in the list right?

too bad, only Passenger Airbag and seat beat is indicators. door lock ESC and rear mirror heat is button.
too bad the button spoil by consumer become a prove used to attack QC of Preve by a lot anti ppl, specially now a lot sharing this image in Facebook.

This post has been edited by waja2000: Apr 17 2012, 10:55 PM

V3 consist too many rumors and unofficial reviews from the lowyatners, so the purpose of creating a V4 is to ensure that all are from the official launching informations including the test drivers. It is easier for the newbie to get to understand more about this and perhaps join us ;D

suddenly i sesat here...

FIRST PAGE!!!

I am newbie! Please brand me as noob. Hahaha

Finally,i oledi test drive the preve at seremban 2..first impression for me is,why the response so sluggish when move from standstill?i tot is car havent warm up,but after warm up oso same..the sa oledi told me tis issue b4 i test drove it..the performance for me is so so onli,maybe i'm put too high expectation for tis global car..when use D mode,i always need press hard to push the car to accelerate faster.i oso test it,when i stop the car,then i press the pedal and the rpm rev up to 1.5k rpm,the car still din move need press hard abit then juz the power suddenly coming..personali i dun like tis feel..i oso got test 0-100,but at last onli manage record the video from 0-90,then got car in front oledi..after i watch bec my video,from 0-90 is around 10-11sec..i use the stopwatch to count few times oledi according the video tat i record..i'm use D drive to test it and aircond is on..car got 3 person total around 190kg..i'm wan use the way wat mat79 mentioned..but from standstill to 90kmh,how i press hard the rpm still around 3.5k rpm there..so tis is max torque for tis engine..according tis test,i oso found that the dashboard will vibrate every time when i press hard to pick up..test few times oso same..and the rear speaker board keep got rattling sound oso..and maybe the test drive car is lemon car,even the rear right hand side oso can hear the wind noise from the triangle mirror after 80kmh..my wife sat at rear and tis all rattling sound was told by her..i oso got sat at rear to hear,and i oso can hear it..when use the paddle shift to test,the power is feel more powerful..but the downside is it will auto upshift every 5400-5500rpm..when use S drive,it juz help u increase the rpm to make u feel the car more alive when accelerate..when use D drive,i full throttle it,the rpm onli go beyond 4k rpm..and the speed wat i hit is around 130kmh..then i slow down oledi..in term of handling and stability,since i din reali to push hard to test,wat i feel is the stability was almost same as my persona..the NVH is better than others proton car,but i still can hear the engine noise and cvt gearbox noise quiet loud after 4k rpm..its not silent as my wife swift..but the road noise and wind noise is quite hard to realize when i speed to 130kmh..

honestly,i'm serious buyer b4 i test drove tis car..after test drove it,i think i still need to hold my plan 1st(my wife oso told me hold 1st) and wait the review from others owner 1st..since i was found quite a lot of quality problem in tis car..since the test drive car oso got the wind noise from rear triangle mirror,rear speaker board got rattling sound..for the performance part,me n my wife maybe not familiar wit cvt,the pick up response quite sluggish,need to press hard a bit then the car juz will pick up..tis feeling make me n my wife not so prefer lo..

congratz on the V4.

my family will be booking this thursday..

will update any info for you guys.

Reporting In. Post No.21 yo

This post has been edited by Area51SE: Apr 17 2012, 11:02 PM

the sluggishness as being told by few forumers due to the CVT. The turbo is the culprit as well.

at least b4 closed previous thread, give a link la to this new thread..easier...

LOL ... Your findings is the same as mine. Swift vs Preve, I feel Swift's driving refinement is better. But Preve wins by cabin & boot space as well as safety features

again as being told, it's due to the CVT. Mini Cooper has this problem as well.

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Added on April 17, 2012, 11:05 pmgot la bro. few post before the last post.

This post has been edited by mutt: Apr 17 2012, 11:05 PM

nw i wonder how the proton to test the 0-100 and get the 9.6sec result?since i oledi use D drive,and never rev more than 4k rpm(never over the max torque rpm range),0-90 oledi need around 10-11sec(wit aircond on and 3 person in car)..or the proton test wit paddle shift or s mode?

suppose to use the S mode to get better respond. with paddle shift of course

This post has been edited by mutt: Apr 17 2012, 11:07 PM

er, for cvt, to seriously go vroom vroom, no one would use D.

if you use D, then just accelerate smoothly.

for example, when u going really fast, you step until 5krpm.
and when u drive smoothly, its 2krpm-100kmh, 3krpm 150km ( example)

so between 2krpm to 5krpm, how can you actually race? with such a wide rpm gap?

use manual. hold the RPM that you want

and i dont remember ppl driving civic racing with D mode too. thats why all these kinds of car had manual over ride.

and...this car is 1300kg, when 0-10kmh its not as fast as myvi. prehaps you should try civic and altis. ok, kancil and kelisa are best at 0-10kmh, no offense to whom ever complains about this. ( cos tthe K car is light)

yup,its due to cvt..but the exora cfe and inspira not so serious lo..tis preve is most serious sluggish during pick up compare to inspira and exora cfe..

People need to be educated about turbo cars....

http://www.autozine.org/technical_school/e...nduction_2.html

i missed it..make it for the last post la...

i have yet to test drive. will hold my comments on the difference between bold and preve until test driven the car. afaik, both bold and preve using cvt3 right? and bold is lot heavier. wondering why...

gave already...

They do it like lancer gt. On N rev to max then shift to D and keep on maintain at peak torque.

but the pick up slow response,i feel its not due to turbo lag..is due to cvt,drive by wire and maybe the tuning..bcoz wat i test in exora,the pick up not as bad as preve

or maybe because the NVH is too good?

at N position,the preve onli can rev till 3k rpm..it wont go up futher due to protection of gearbox..inspira or lancer is 4k rpm max in N position,rite?

its drive at 1st gear, step until 6krpm, then shift to D.

and Rev to max at N is the best way to change a new CVT gearbox.

go youtube, plenty of lancer 0-100 video.

tis is not concern wit NVH..u can feel it when u press the throttle but the car din give response

YOu did not drive lemon car..
My test drive when revving the car to higher rpm the car vibrates a lot. my passenger also told me that he felt the vibration and harness..

how fast did the speedo needle climb?
usually cars with good nvh even if driven fast, will still feel very slow

Honestly, those uncles who buy the Preve won't care about how a turbo works. The moment they feel the car is slow when moving from standstill, compared to, say, the Civic, they will just tell Proton to eatshitanddie. Furthermore how many who buy such a large sedan is a petrolhead?

It's a damn shame, though.

I wonder why Preve doesn't has door visor or its only the unit I saw yesterday doesn't have door visor

This post has been edited by Area51SE: Apr 17 2012, 11:18 PM

One thing I hate using s drive for my civic is because it's too artificial, it feels like its tearing my gearbox apart. Don't really know how to put it in words but it's like the drag between gears(the feel) has a strong rubber Band feel. For century sprint I did it within 10 secs before.

This post has been edited by Kalist0: Apr 17 2012, 11:18 PM

conventional AT got rubberband feel?

thats why you get a 6 speed manual

it feels slow, but then when you look at your meter suddenly it's showing 60~70 when you're still in housing area then when you slam on the brakes before you hit the hump, the ABS activates and you hear tire screeching eventhough you don't feel much inside the car

at least thats what happened to me today

and btw, 180kg is alot of extra weight on a car

ever wondered why race driver strip their cars bare eventhough they'd get only 50kg at best of savings?

This post has been edited by Nightstalker1993: Apr 17 2012, 11:21 PM

0-90 is take around 10-11sec,so do u feel the speedo needle will climb faster?for wat i test,tats is normal..again,maybe i'm not familiar wit cvt,so use wrong way to test..the method tat i test is,use D drive,full throttle it,suddenly the rpm direct to 2k rpm,the tyre spin around 1sec and hit 3k++ rpm when the speed reach 90kmh..

This post has been edited by samwongjyhhorng: Apr 17 2012, 11:22 PM

step more, step to 4krpm, and maintain there, let the CVT does its magic.

too bad is i oledi full throttle it lo honestly,i feel inspira 2.0 more power than preve..

Regarding the buttons picture, i find it a lil bit stupid, those people went inside the car, spam all the buttons like non stop, purposely pressed until like their own car, then spoil ady, very happy because they win.

they win because they want to bash proton. Good job.

i will still be buying this car tho. I went to a showrrom today, batt not working, people press all the electronic things but engine never start, of course lah battery KO

Dont test with 4 people inside, or not car will become sluggish as well. Is this statement right???

Correct me if i am wrong.

This post has been edited by razkal: Apr 17 2012, 11:27 PM

the car got 3 adults include me..maybe need test wit 1 person lo..and most important is off aircond..

on/off air con got effect the test meh?

Sluggish yeh? Yeah, probably same as exora.

Hahaha. Yeah. It's 1st gear. My mistake.

Have to say very good job with the preve, still some places for improvement like the glove box and driver coin box and fascia for the headunit but otherwise very very very neat and bolted together car. Superbly spacious in the back but still a gigantic boot.

Thanks to the price, people are adopting a "u buy first lah" attitude. If this car highest spec is RM60k, people wouldn't mind taking the risk.

i hate the handbrake part, very hard to pull, not body co-ordinate enough.

Aerodynamics is the name of the game yo.

Now I really gatal wanna test drive lah. Haih. Still in the office.

Oh, reporting in btw. Gonna tell my SA I want black tomorrow. Looks sweet baby!

They've been watching too much of The Fast and Furious.

I though modern car will auto off the compressor when you floored the pedal, atleast mine is.

haiya, i thought everybody already know, even in full manual mode, by push lever to tiptronic side, the max engine rev is at 5k rpm lor, so, it give u a bit room for overrev a bit, which not good, overrev, wasted energy. The cvt limit is at 5700rpm, so, it will upshift automatically when u r overreving the engine, its the cvt characteristic by the way n also will downshift automatically around 2k rpm to 1.4k rpm depend on which gear it is on during that time.

datuk, why the car got visible weld spot at door? not on any previous proton car like persona and saga wor....

Its help in my saga lmst

seriously i don't get it why you guys get so worked up over a bloody weld mark. its just a different door manufacturing process and if this can get 5 star EuroNCAP, i don't care how the doors are made

should put to S

already answered on v3.. go search..

please dun annoy the datuk until he run away.. his one of the more knowledgeable ppl in here among all the trolls...

This post has been edited by WhitE LighteR: Apr 17 2012, 11:44 PM

just to troll datuk

ok u win.. happy?

Here’s my personal test drive review. I think most of you would have already tested and felt the Inspira so I’m using it as comparison.

Exterior:
In terms of quality and rigidness, I can’t tell the difference between the Preve and the Inspira. I used the ketuk technique, I’m good at it…. Hahaha!

Interior:
The dashboard looks and feels good, the buttons are well positioned. The photo of the broken buttons is real funny; it’s probably a freak incident because I really think the quality of materials and workmanship is satisfactory. The window control panel feels familiar like the Saga FLX, but I think it feels that way because of the texture. The glovebox is quite hard to close but just lift the handle when closing, no problem. But overall I assure you Inspira feels better in quality and aesthetics.

Drive:
Very sluggish below 2k RPM. But once you hit 2k RPM, the turbo kicks in and it’s homerun all the way. This is my first time driving a turbo car and I like the feel of it when the turbo pushes it like an invisible force… like magic. Don’t worry about the sluggishness, just push the pedal a little bit harder to reach 2k RPM, no issues, lovely in fact. The paddle shift works fine, it’s nice to have but I have no comments. I’m not going to use it so I didn’t test it extensively. Overall ride satisfaction, I prefer the Preve to the Inspira.

Noise:
Sound insulation is good in blocking out road and traffic noise. But the sound of the engine caught me by surprise. When the turbo spools, you’ll hear it. Yes you’ll really hear it loud and clear and coupled with the fact that it’s a CVT gearbox, there’s added noise until it has made a decision on the right gear ratio. I don’t know, but probably because the exterior noise is being blocked out so well, the engine noise becomes so apparent. Just have to get used to it. Inspira’s engine isn’t very quite either, but the Preve loses out in this area.

Audio System:
I don’t know. Didn’t test it because it’s the least of my concern.

Conclusion:
At RM73k, there’s only one best choice out there – Preve. Vios J spec and Peugeot 207 around the same price range, does not give me the same satisfaction.

Have fun!

Once te car is up to speed, especially with the paddle shifters, the acceleration is satisfying.

Its getting there thats baffling everyone.

ei, where got.

i search, only saw 5 replies....


http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Sear...s&highlite=weld

My humble review, part 1



On the road review will come out this Friday. I've booked for an hour test drive with my SA.

Imo, maybe the sluggishness below 2k rpm is purposedly made as safety features in condition such as traffic jam and parking. You don't want the turbo to give sudden boost and ram car infront right?

Visit my showroom again, i let u test on highway.

Which showroom u went to? Our showroom have 1 Preve K.O due to batt kong also...
Then some customer starting to say "like that quality no good lor".. Man, you expect the alternator to charge itself by not running the engine long enough?

try searching in the 12-page thread that got closed lol

one.... hour....?

ya. YOU JELLY?

last time I have 40 minutes with the Exora Bold too.



This post has been edited by V12Kompressor: Apr 17 2012, 11:54 PM

no, 1.6thp power starts from 1.5krpm, just the design philosophy.

and they can use the safety feature by having drive by wire( means you step harder, it goes).

but....but why everyone buy rm72k like buying golf gti........

anyway to really compare 1.6turbo , go test 308thp salesman are friendly, and realy fun.

a showroom near my friend place @ kajang. Just went there to visit my friend then pass by so we walked in and try.

stupid people no brain one.

good for you la. my SA useless one. radio tarak tao guna, remote trunk release also don't know, i asked where is the wifi dongle he said 'just enter the car and its there!'

want to change alternate route also he don't let. must die die follow his route else 'if his boss see him change route will screw him'

wrong thread.. sorry

this:

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2307080?author=mat79

For Proton, guess some things just doesn't change.

i wanna try on highway also, but then not gonna buy the car worr. at best just help advertise only. how?

Sri petaling branch can test highway MRR2. can vroom vroom.

highway?is it true?half an hour to test,is it ok?hehe

seems more and more negative views coming up. better shift the price to RM50K for medium auto spec?

Yea aerodynamic but like parking under hot sun cant put the window down to the door visor level ady =X...Anyways its not a impt thing. If I need it, could still install aftermarket ones

Erm, u said the weight of 3 people around 190, so minus 70kg driver, so left 120kg. 120kg+1340kg means 1460kg of g force(ha..ha..)which means u r drivng the car with around 20kg less then exora bold cfe kerb weight coz already minus 70kg for driver. Exora cfe around 11.3 scd century sprint while u get around 10-11 scnd to 90, so, not that far.

Which means still the cfe still give same performance as in bold coz the weight is nearly the same now with occupant.

Dunno about u guys, but for me its the same based on the timing, maybe just feeling, he...he...sory,i like to laugh coz im a happy person, n im not datuk. But r u sure the test drive car is not the one being abuse by someone before doing drifting@full dougnut last nite...:-). Just kidding.

U all knowla how abusive people can be. Still remember abuse altis until the glove box come down when entering apex coz driving hard but really hate the esp interfere too early, n the door panel rattles. But then, its a good car, i mean altis,just maybe many already abuse like me, but based on chat with sa, its like me the only one, coz he said, abg bwk kete bleh tahan gak, causing him wearing seatbelt from being as usual typical malaysian, seatbelt is for cosmetic n just keep quiet the whole journey :-)

ha..ha.. Its a test drive, so, dont worry,just do what u want, just dont accident or masuk longkang udahler deme.

-ve review wont change their mind just because its rm50k. you sell it at 10k oso they will still complain and say shit things...

well i guess only with this type of ppl around proton will continue to further improve and push themselves to higher height.

If one would expect it to be as fast as a Golf GTi, then it is not.

If one would expect it to be as premium as a BMW 528i, then it is not.

If one would expect it to be as smooth as a Toyota Camry 2.4G, then it is not.

If one would expect it to be safe as a Volvo S60, then it is not.

What you get after paying 73k, is just a car to get you from point A to point B, safe and sound thanks to those three letter acronym safety features, well protected from the harsh weather of malaysia thanks to the powderful airconditioning and plenty of space for you to store up durians when the durian fever hits the town. Oh, you can even carry 5 humans (including you) or one human and dozens of dead bodies too.

Walk in to the showroom with huge expectation and be prepared to be let down. Simple as that.

well, when i test drove the Preve just now, the SA also kept silent when i took the corner especially when cornered until the ESC came on

If just need a car from point A to point B, I think better buy Persona. Bang for buck.

Why Persona? Viva 660BX would do.

but no ESP, no 4 airbag, no 5 star EuroNCAP/Australian NCAP, no nice interior, no huge space especially the rear, no hugeass boot and no turbo.