u drive wat car use 18" boss...? can compare to preve meh? My xperince is from waja time.. so it shud be comparable in xperince againts preve

Preve got Tuurrrbooo bro... cannot match with Waja lah... Waja only around 90kW and torque 150?

Anyway, noticed Preve's wheel/fender gap is pretty small.. around 2 fingers height only... so wider tyres migth have problem when turning fully

banks called up and 7 yr loan get 2.8% (mbb) and 2.86% (hlb). not yet approve though...
tiger sure match with tiger... hehehe

Bro.... MBB can get lower rates... i heard 2.7X% only... for hlb you may get lower than that...

i think need to quote back what i said coz still many professional welders here, hu...hu...

erm, if not mistaken, prtn already used one piece door stamping gen2, tailor welded blanks door saga,exora, and preve i think, door sash + doorpanel,  using double spot, robotic plasma welding, new n latest for prtn, better weight, better design for sash n better strength.

I thinkla :-), dengor2 khabar anginla, ingress corp supply the door to prtn preve. So, better ask them lah, ha...ha...

The door sash is made using roll forming method, only using this method, u can used advance high strength steel(ahss) aka ultra high tensile steel(uhss) as the material coz in cold forming method, its really hard to shape ahss to complex shape coz of its rigidity.

Then the door structure is normally used high strength steel low alloy(hsla), and the trapezoidal impact beam, unique to proton n lotus, start in satria neo n upward(not tabular impact beam as some others using) inside the door also ahss using roll forming.

So, combining the door sash n door panel is using robotic(not human, unless humanoid :-)) plasma welding, double spot, for strength n better corrosion resistant. Ops, forget to mentioned, all high strength steel using in car are galvanised steel(corrosion resistant coating steel), yup, the whole body n panel, deep into pool, electro charged, the pool is in tanjung malim, maybe u can visit for swimming n diving training :-). Plus, its painted in white(thats why they called it body in white as the preve chasis during power of one event), then another layers of colors paint.

So, in other words, using this method, the door will enhance its strength by combining two type of steels(ahss for door sash n hsla for door structure), n door sash is stronger than before as in using tailor welded blanks. Coz previously, only being protected by ahss impact beam inside the door, but door sash still not as strong as ahss(trip or dp), but now, the whole door has the same strength. Yup, i think better they (prtn)conceal with rubber or plastics next time, so that people will not do their own professional analysis coz they only familiar with house grill welding, not robotic plasma welding.

I think better those who curious just google for image using plasma welding, spot, how is it look like, the marks from plasma welding.

My loan approve today, hlb 2.85 for 9 years, 55k loan. 

i dun understand? press one time is for wat and press twice is for wat?

I only able to make few turns nearby as many people were waiting 

Add layer, removing it it's a hassle. But there are people who do it.

Most of the income masuk maybank. It's consistent and keep increasing but the only prob i have just created current acc in mid feb. I really need a car for my wife cos going to retire my savvy. 6 years lenjan kaw2 edi maybe i can use current account statement as support doc for my salary statement. Mine is ent.

Finally,i oledi test drive the preve at seremban 2..first impression for me is,why the response so sluggish when move from standstill?i tot is car havent warm up,but after warm up oso same..the sa oledi told me tis issue b4 i test drove it..the performance for me is so so onli,maybe i'm put too high expectation for tis global car..when use D mode,i always need press hard to push the car to accelerate faster.i oso test it,when i stop the car,then i press the pedal and the rpm rev up to 1.5k rpm,the car still din move need press hard abit then juz the power suddenly coming..personali i dun like tis feel..i oso got test 0-100,but at last onli manage record the video from 0-90,then got car in front oledi..after i watch bec my video,from 0-90 is around 10-11sec..i use the stopwatch to count few times oledi according the video tat i record..i'm use D drive to test it and aircond is on..car got 3 person total around 190kg..i'm wan use the way wat mat79 mentioned..but from standstill to 90kmh,how i press hard the rpm still around 3.5k rpm there..so tis is max torque for tis engine..according tis test,i oso found that the dashboard will vibrate every time when i press hard to pick up..test few times oso same..and the rear speaker board keep got rattling sound oso..and maybe the test drive car is lemon car,even the rear right hand side oso can hear the wind noise from the triangle mirror after 80kmh..my wife sat at rear and tis all rattling sound was told by her..i oso got sat at rear to hear,and i oso can hear it..when use the paddle shift to test,the power is feel more powerful..but the downside is it will auto upshift every 5400-5500rpm..when use S drive,it juz help u increase the rpm to make u feel the car more alive when accelerate..when use D drive,i full throttle it,the rpm onli go beyond 4k rpm..and the speed wat i hit is around 130kmh..then i slow down oledi..in term of handling and stability,since i din reali to push hard to test,wat i feel is the stability was almost same as my persona..the NVH is better than others proton car,but i still can hear the engine noise and cvt gearbox noise quiet loud after 4k rpm..its not silent as my wife swift..but the road noise and wind noise is quite hard to realize when i speed to 130kmh..

honestly,i'm serious buyer b4 i test drove tis car..after test drove it,i think i still need to hold my plan 1st(my wife oso told me hold 1st) and wait the review from others owner 1st..since i was found quite a lot of quality problem in tis car..since the test drive car oso got the wind noise from rear triangle mirror,rear speaker board got rattling sound..for the performance part,me n my wife maybe not familiar wit cvt,the pick up response quite sluggish,need to press hard a bit then the car juz will pick up..tis feeling make me n my wife not so prefer lo..

Aiks, mat79 is really making the trouble to explain all the technical stuff of the car and trolls still keep bashing the car. Why? Beauty of the car lies skin deep

Just because the car is made by proton need to bash ke?  Proton is like MAS both national company, do we want to see both companies go bankrupt?  Of course not right?

i think need to quote back what i said coz still many professional welders here, hu...hu...

erm, if not mistaken, prtn already used one piece door stamping gen2, tailor welded blanks door saga,exora, and preve i think, door sash + doorpanel,  using double spot, robotic plasma welding, new n latest for prtn, better weight, better design for sash n better strength.

I thinkla :-), dengor2 khabar anginla, ingress corp supply the door to prtn preve. So, better ask them lah, ha...ha...

The door sash is made using roll forming method, only using this method, u can used advance high strength steel(ahss) aka ultra high tensile steel(uhss) as the material coz in cold forming method, its really hard to shape ahss to complex shape coz of its rigidity.

Then the door structure is normally used high strength steel low alloy(hsla), and the trapezoidal impact beam, unique to proton n lotus, start in satria neo n upward(not tabular impact beam as some others using) inside the door also ahss using roll forming.

So, combining the door sash n door panel is using robotic(not human, unless humanoid :-)) plasma welding, double spot, for strength n better corrosion resistant. Ops, forget to mentioned, all high strength steel using in car are galvanised steel(corrosion resistant coating steel), yup, the whole body n panel, deep into pool, electro charged, the pool is in tanjung malim, maybe u can visit for swimming n diving training :-). Plus, its painted in white(thats why they called it body in white as the preve chasis during power of one event), then another layers of colors paint.

So, in other words, using this method, the door will enhance its strength by combining two type of steels(ahss for door sash n hsla for door structure), n door sash is stronger than before as in using tailor welded blanks. Coz previously, only being protected by ahss impact beam inside the door, but door sash still not as strong as ahss(trip or dp), but now, the whole door has the same strength. Yup, i think better they (prtn)conceal with rubber or plastics next time, so that people will not do their own professional analysis coz they only familiar with house grill welding, not robotic plasma welding.

I think better those who curious just google for image using plasma welding, spot, how is it look like, the marks from plasma welding.

not need think too much ... Inspira is good choice.. keke

Mine not yet liao. Have to send sumore docs to HLB. Haih. Need to ask my girls to print my pay slip. But they all busy

CIMB no news yet.
I'm guessing once lock and twice to unlock? Though seems silly to be doing that though.
Aiyo. Not fun liao. Wanna take it to the highway and try my usual driving style. See ok or not. I'm not that much of an aggressive driver - but I dislike braking. So wanna see how bad this "lag" thingy affects my usual style.
Any damage to the original security tint if I add a layer? Coz I might wanna consider something that's better at keeping heat from being retained in the car.
I think can lah. Better if you can visit your home branch - they should know your transaction history better than anyone else. Or ask your SA to kautim for you

yeah, tell that to diamond boy, buy in my opinion, i also a bit worried. looking at the so call welding, it is not so much on the welding, it is all about the finishing, if you can have lousy welding but great finishing, the product will look nice also, the eyes see everything,

i also agree this car, has much much more to improve, but within the proton range of products, it is the best so far.

still again, we not comparing this against inspira and persona, we are comparing Forte, dugong, siti and so on within that price range.

what i think most of us dont like is that, proton, in the last years were making half hearted cars. Mass market, no safety and crappy quality, and protected by Gomen, so many op not to get one and rather buy the rip off J's which we see on the road.

IF proton was making great cars with great quality, selling at about J and Siti price. i am very sure we or most of us will buy one and support the gomen or local car market.

like japanese, they rather buy a toyota, cause they are proud of their product. Why buy a german? when my local product is as good,

Here we are not the same, we all know, but IF proton, makes great quality car;s cars that dont break down easily, i am very sure we will all buy them, we will even buy them in other countries, because we know the quality.

Here, terbalik pulak, Malaysia model, no airbags, no this no that, cheaper plastic, useless performance. Oversea export, proton cars. Comes with airbags, come with auto sensor this and that. great quality plastics and so on.

So how? DSZ ? u wanna make malaysian proud and buy the Preve, improve the quality. if toyota and honda can do it, or even Naza can do it. Why not you? Because u got the most back up, make us all feel proud owning a proton. Not by bashing u useless.

u should know that most ppl buy a proton because they cannot afford other makes at the moment, But they swear that will never buy a proton once using a proton. That is why u got a lot of bashers.

IF you make a proton my first car, my next car also i want to buy a proton in a malaysian consumer ,mind, then i say u are the real Steve Jobs , the god of marketing in Malaysia.

2 to 3 cents only, my feeling towards the company. i love the preve, but i still doubt it, my heart still tell me, if i buy i may regret, so make me feel i wont regret.

Eh this one not Inspira thread lah...

anyway... Inspira is worst car... cheap copy kat with campro engine! If you want, pls buy REAL lancer then only got soul!

I just want to comment about Naza, they rebadge cars and sell as their own. Quality and specs all taken care of by the parent company of the car rebadged.

Eh this one not Inspira thread lah...

anyway... Inspira is worst car... cheap copy kat with campro engine! If you want, pls buy REAL lancer then only got soul!

Inspira using Campro Engine? Not Mitsu one kah?.......

Campro using timing belt, Inspira - Mivec...sigh

inspira is using campro la....