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 Apr 18 2012, 01:56 AM
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QUOTE(Area51SE @ Apr 18 2012, 12:03 AM) Yea aerodynamic but like parking under hot sun cant put the window down to the door visor level ady =X...Anyways its not a impt thing. If I need it, could still install aftermarket ones honda civic also don't hv as stock and few others.. as usual we will always questions even if it's there or not  |
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Apr 18 2012, 02:09 AM
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QUOTE(Kalist0 @ Apr 18 2012, 01:15 AM) Try gti or cooper s and u know how well u need to control ur leg. So I don't think this is a safety feature, just the delay of power delivery. did anyone tested cvt on saga, exora, inspira besides preve. how does it compare to each other? i myself own saga 1.3 cvt.. for iafm+ and saga below 2k rpm enough already although saga is light. when i need power i just fully press pedal and it will shoot to just below 6k rpm if road enough easily hit 160++.. in conclusion if i need power i just hit the pedal till the rpm i want. reviews from media suggest as above, but from this forum saying below 2k is sluggish.. i'm comparing with my car so easier to understand and also because it's cvt but not turbo la.. else need to test drive it  This post has been edited by huzaifa136: Apr 18 2012, 02:14 AM |
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Apr 18 2012, 10:27 AM
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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Apr 18 2012, 10:19 AM) if ppl can keeps on looking at rev meter when driving, they should be a racer. i thought proton pluged in a turbo to make the car faster and easy to drive? i did look at the meter display quite a lot esp rev. we still need it eventho some might not look at it while driving.it suppose to be easy to drive if u know how. it's a new tech which make it into cheap car |
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Apr 18 2012, 10:37 AM
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « QUOTE(turbocharged @ Apr 18 2012, 10:31 AM) yea, but i refuse to believe anyone driving 1.6thp or 2.0tsi or 1.4tsi has to look at the rev meter when they wanna drive their car, unless we're talking about big turbos like in those skylines or evos. got the fella above but, i must not comment anymore on the lag or turbo or rev, until i go for a test drive but, the only reason i look at my rev meter is because i do not want to harm my cvt, when i am vroom vroom. as mugenz mention because turbo torque comes at certain rpm. if NA then no problem, even if it comes with cvt Added on April 18, 2012, 10:39 am QUOTE(mugenz @ Apr 18 2012, 10:34 AM) we comparing the technology la kawan.. seems no one really bothered about interior anymore, handling, braking.if u say golf/polo/308T where it works just like CFE technology of preve.. nobody compare it overall car vs overall car. Added on April 18, 2012, 10:35 am if u do some adjustment to the CFE lag problem. If stock CFE lag + CVT lag = really hard time.. major concern: cfe + cvt drivebility This post has been edited by huzaifa136: Apr 18 2012, 10:39 AM |
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Apr 18 2012, 11:18 AM
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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Apr 18 2012, 11:13 AM) er....nope, cvt wont roll back. it depends on the cvt calibration. if from creeping then hit brake and release brake without throttle, it will roll back, so it is safer to apply handbrake here. that's from my saga (punch) cvt experiencei hit a car on a slope, when my car is full of ppl. engaged in D, did not pay attention, so i din press the brake hard enough. slowly kissed the car in front.....and pay a small fee. |
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Apr 18 2012, 11:29 AM
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QUOTE(mugenz @ Apr 18 2012, 11:22 AM) hah? no need handbrake la.. u must know ur car well.. release the brakes and accelerate abit. u should know the behaviour of your car of how much to step so it will maintain.. mybe i explained it wrong. because with at on a slope without throttle it won't roll back, so with clutch based cvt, if u brake and release throttle too quickly expecting the car to hold on the slope, it will just slide down. if u press throttle it'll surely hit car in front if it close enough. other way is to wait 1 sec or more then it will move on it's own forward on a slope without pressing throttle Easily to drive like this but con is consumes fuels hahahahahahaa  it is what the punch guy said at autoworld forumThis post has been edited by huzaifa136: Apr 18 2012, 11:30 AM |
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Apr 18 2012, 11:43 AM
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QUOTE(klow @ Apr 18 2012, 11:39 AM) If the engine is powerful then it will not roll back but not all engine that powerful. That's why the tech "Hill-start assist". For normal car, it shall roll back. it has something to do with cvt. to understand further:QUOTE 1) I notice that exora bold still roll back on even slight /gradual slope(not-too-steep slope). Normal auto gear vehicle only will roll back when the slope is too steep, if it is not steep enough, it's will lock at there. Is there anyway to make CVT lock it when reach slight/gradual slope? It is kinda dangerous esp for new driver. You are correct. This is a know "issue", but is a design feature actually. Two things contribute to this: First thing is what we call idle neutral, unlike all regular older AT's that have a constantly dragging torque converter or clutch, we open our clutch (a wet clutch, more pressure = more drag, even more pressure closes it) almost completely when you are pressing the brake and standing still. this way fuel is saved. If you release the brake a little time is needed to apply pressure to our clutch again. that is when you roll back a little, rollback only occurs on hills steeper than 10%. secondly the engine cannot deliver a lot of power idling, when aircon is on, heavy car, on a hill, we can start closing the clutch in order not to roll back, but that will cause the engine to stall. When you apply trottle you will notice first the clutch opens a little bit so engine revs up, than we start closing the clutch, during revving up, you can encounter rollback. What to do? use handbrake in stead of brake, this way we not shift to neutral (we only read regular brake signal not handbrake), use enough trottle, this way the engine produces engough power to close the clutch in one move. kristof - punch powertrain This post has been edited by huzaifa136: Apr 18 2012, 11:45 AM |
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Apr 18 2012, 11:57 AM
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QUOTE(kevintth @ Apr 18 2012, 11:54 AM) what are the 6 new models? new saga, new exora, savvy replacement, emas and/or suv (lotus youngman)?Preve, the hatchback, what else? |
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Apr 18 2012, 12:00 PM
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btw this is the leaked photos of lotus-youngman suv
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « can search the web for more info This post has been edited by huzaifa136: Apr 18 2012, 12:01 PM |
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Apr 18 2012, 01:47 PM
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good door insulation (rubber sealing)
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « glovebox, notice the lock mechanism is on the side (both) same as vw golf » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « engine wall soundproof » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « This post has been edited by huzaifa136: Apr 18 2012, 01:51 PM |
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Apr 18 2012, 06:38 PM
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QUOTE(FrostLance @ Apr 18 2012, 06:36 PM) The steel part macam tercungkil keluar . Looks pretty buruk. If u spend tonnes of cash on a car u expect it to be kind of refine also. My Perdoua Myvi doesnt have this. preve door assembly different to other proton like saga and persona.i wonder how much it cost to make it better in terms of cosmetic? probably not worth to be taken into production? This post has been edited by huzaifa136: Apr 18 2012, 06:39 PM |
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Apr 18 2012, 06:41 PM
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Apr 18 2012, 06:38 PM) and u think that joint will be stronger than 1 piece? i don't think the whole energy will be distributed to the door upper frame. probably to the body frame.. unless crashing with doors open |
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Apr 19 2012, 04:00 PM
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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Apr 19 2012, 03:53 PM) Fact is fact. Proton is nothing but a low end car manufacturer that can sell to poor malaysian who have no choice because imported are make artificially expensive so proton can sell. say that to someone who bought a proton as another car besides their other expensive car, just because proton's maintenance is cheaper, while also offer spacious cabin and boot + good handlingThis post has been edited by huzaifa136: Apr 19 2012, 04:00 PM |
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Apr 19 2012, 06:19 PM
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QUOTE(hatemaster @ Apr 19 2012, 05:38 PM) about the spot welding i just check with ford fiesta..guess what..same like preve..lol is it like this? found in the net» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « in fiesta, the back door's child lock also need key to activate it = same as preve (conti in mind but people bash) |
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Apr 19 2012, 06:32 PM
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QUOTE(FrostLance @ Apr 19 2012, 06:24 PM) i dont see any gaping holes at the welding area there. hatemaster told us about it, it's still the same assembly type but with clean unpolished weldbtw i'm not an engineer so not expert in this |
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Apr 19 2012, 08:27 PM
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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Apr 19 2012, 08:17 PM) how about abang dia? inspira hv a lot of depth/3d than preve.. and safe font» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « for preve it's subtle depth and funky font. btw this is from jaguar xf.. quite same, some mistaken it for preve 
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Apr 20 2012, 05:39 PM
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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Apr 20 2012, 05:28 PM) Looks like firewall soundproofings are gonna be the in thing for Preve owners. Go do bulk lar .. btw this is the stock firewall soundproof on preve, same material as hood soundproof
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Apr 20 2012, 06:04 PM
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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Apr 20 2012, 06:00 PM) Wow, and yet the reviews in Paul Tan still mention the audible engine noises on the car. I guess it's not thick enough. Still, it's better than nothing, I guess. can't confirm on that, this is on premium preveDoes that appear on the IAFM+ version as well? |
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Apr 20 2012, 08:44 PM
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QUOTE(cuteyman @ Apr 20 2012, 08:27 PM) the point here is that proton still produce low quality parts/material and etc whatsoever to their product..nothing change much ..in fact proton preve is a newly published car not yet even on the road... ok, so if u drive a proton u should sell it coz its low quality part. if u r not, tell that to ur fmly or relatives if any. we cannot simply 100% blaming the tester..but need to looks in detailed on the problematic parts.. i can't comment anything on the picture coz i don't know what happens, i'm not speculating. unless i have credible source. else people will just accept what i say coz that's the way people are, spreading gossips |
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Apr 20 2012, 08:47 PM
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QUOTE(thygeralth @ Apr 20 2012, 08:45 PM) "Lamborghini Aventador on fire on the CA 73 S near the 133. on the fact of supercars, their engine produce a lot of heat, that's why easily burn if not properly handled. imagine driving a supercar on a hilly residential with manual, sure clutch will burn also. No one was injured. Dealership owns the car, and it was out on a test drive when spontaneously the rear (around the DR tire) burst into flames. Lamborghini is still figuring out what happened." description tell us that this unit burns and they also didnt know what actually happens..shit happens,and we also cant expect that kind of thing happens..im not biased and not proton side too...just to mention,shit happens anywhere... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/16/l..._n_1429224.html but i believe people will forgive it, coz the owner must be rich, no problem getting a new one and in turns they actually hv a great performance This post has been edited by huzaifa136: Apr 20 2012, 08:48 PM |
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