QUOTE(mat79 @ Apr 18 2012, 01:29 PM)
people keep thinking coz prtn cap ayam, like china brand, not china made underlicensed.
Ecu update, reflash n etc, is common. Even for famous tsi n dsg, even changing design, updating material n etc. It is all over the world, common things among manufacturer. When its not related to safety, rarely doing announcement for recall. Just updating during service n even by letter.
Not all discomfort appear during testing. When complaining,its standard across all manufacturer to inspect first, determined whether all are affected n whether just few isolated case. Everything need to check, is it the product, the design or even causing by human factor, then, after inspecting, countermeasure been table, tested first whether it solved the probs or not, before handed in back to customers. All things need to sort out between manufacturers n vendors such punch as oem for driveterrain, ecu by conti ag, turbo by borgwagner n etc.
Sometimes, it just one bad part among thousands. So, its not design probs, not really part probs. Sometimes, its not a probs, just diff characteristics. Thats why experienced testers who test so many cars like journo, sometimes dont even mentioned it coz it is normal. Many cars have the same characteristics, so, why become a probs when it comes to prtn.
All i can see is becoz prtn is being associate with cap ayam. Thats all. Thats why all the slamming appears to all prtns showroom, n rarely happened to others.
I dunno whehther u have seen this or not, but as my observation, rarely seen people even crawling to peek under the cars in other showrooms, but common things in prtn. Even for preve.
Just heard someone investigate the multilink system to search for the strut bar. Even some thats trying gores n menang method, n knocking method. Do u know how strong is the metal by knocking? If pedded a soft steel with dampening, it sound solid.
Thats why in prtn, crumple zone is known as tin milo. But other makes, wow, thats a good crumple zone. Same as start push button n etc, even the fonts becomes a debating topic. Neverheard this font topic on other makes when introducing push start button :-).
you are right.. ppl are just being ridiculous when testing proton.. small problems that appear in conti car like big prob in proton..Ecu update, reflash n etc, is common. Even for famous tsi n dsg, even changing design, updating material n etc. It is all over the world, common things among manufacturer. When its not related to safety, rarely doing announcement for recall. Just updating during service n even by letter.
Not all discomfort appear during testing. When complaining,its standard across all manufacturer to inspect first, determined whether all are affected n whether just few isolated case. Everything need to check, is it the product, the design or even causing by human factor, then, after inspecting, countermeasure been table, tested first whether it solved the probs or not, before handed in back to customers. All things need to sort out between manufacturers n vendors such punch as oem for driveterrain, ecu by conti ag, turbo by borgwagner n etc.
Sometimes, it just one bad part among thousands. So, its not design probs, not really part probs. Sometimes, its not a probs, just diff characteristics. Thats why experienced testers who test so many cars like journo, sometimes dont even mentioned it coz it is normal. Many cars have the same characteristics, so, why become a probs when it comes to prtn.
All i can see is becoz prtn is being associate with cap ayam. Thats all. Thats why all the slamming appears to all prtns showroom, n rarely happened to others.
I dunno whehther u have seen this or not, but as my observation, rarely seen people even crawling to peek under the cars in other showrooms, but common things in prtn. Even for preve.
Just heard someone investigate the multilink system to search for the strut bar. Even some thats trying gores n menang method, n knocking method. Do u know how strong is the metal by knocking? If pedded a soft steel with dampening, it sound solid.
Thats why in prtn, crumple zone is known as tin milo. But other makes, wow, thats a good crumple zone. Same as start push button n etc, even the fonts becomes a debating topic. Neverheard this font topic on other makes when introducing push start button :-).
Apr 18 2012, 01:49 PM

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