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Nightstalker1993
post Apr 17 2012, 10:49 PM

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FUHHHHHH V4 already on the 2nd day of the car's launch laugh.gif

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post Apr 17 2012, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Apr 17 2012, 11:15 PM)
tis is not concern wit NVH..u can feel it when u press the throttle but the car din give response
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it feels slow, but then when you look at your meter suddenly it's showing 60~70 when you're still in housing area then when you slam on the brakes before you hit the hump, the ABS activates and you hear tire screeching eventhough you don't feel much inside the car sweat.gif

at least thats what happened to me today laugh.gif

and btw, 180kg is alot of extra weight on a car sweat.gif

ever wondered why race driver strip their cars bare eventhough they'd get only 50kg at best of savings?

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post Apr 17 2012, 11:43 PM

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seriously i don't get it why you guys get so worked up over a bloody weld mark. its just a different door manufacturing process and if this can get 5 star EuroNCAP, i don't care how the doors are made doh.gif
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post Apr 17 2012, 11:51 PM

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Apr 17 2012, 11:46 PM)
ei, where got.

i search, only saw 5 replies....
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Sear...s&highlite=weld
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try searching in the 12-page thread that got closed lol

QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Apr 17 2012, 11:48 PM)
My humble review, part 1

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


On the road review will come out this Friday. I've booked for an hour test drive with my SA. tongue.gif
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one.... hour....? shocking.gif
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post Apr 17 2012, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Apr 17 2012, 11:53 PM)
ya. YOU JELLY?

last time I have 40 minutes with the Exora Bold too.

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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good for you la. my SA useless one. radio tarak tao guna, remote trunk release also don't know, i asked where is the wifi dongle he said 'just enter the car and its there!' doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

want to change alternate route also he don't let. must die die follow his route else 'if his boss see him change route will screw him' doh.gif
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post Apr 17 2012, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(victor87 @ Apr 17 2012, 11:51 PM)
Visit my showroom again, i let u test on highway.
Which showroom u went to? Our showroom have 1 Preve K.O due to batt kong also...  doh.gif
Then some customer starting to say "like that quality no good lor".. Man, you expect the alternator to charge itself by not running the engine long enough?  doh.gif  doh.gif
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i wanna try on highway also, but then not gonna buy the car worr. at best just help advertise only. how? laugh.gif
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post Apr 18 2012, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(mat79 @ Apr 18 2012, 12:04 AM)
Erm, u said the weight of 3 people around 190, so minus 70kg driver, so left 120kg. 120kg+1340kg means 1460kg of g force(ha..ha..)which means u r drivng the car with around 20kg less then exora bold cfe kerb weight coz already minus 70kg for driver. Exora cfe around 11.3 scd century sprint while u get around 10-11 scnd to 90, so, not that far.

Which means still the cfe still give same performance as in bold coz the weight is nearly the same now with occupant.

Dunno about u guys,  but for me its the same based on the timing, maybe just feeling, he...he...sory,i like to laugh coz im a happy person, n im not datuk. But r u sure the test drive car is not the one being abuse by someone before doing drifting@full dougnut last nite...:-). Just kidding.

U all knowla how abusive people can be. Still remember abuse altis until the glove box come down when entering apex coz driving hard but really hate the esp interfere too early, n the door panel rattles. But then, its a good car, i mean altis,just maybe many already abuse like me, but based on chat with sa, its like me the only one, coz he said, abg bwk kete bleh tahan gak, causing him wearing seatbelt from being as usual typical malaysian, seatbelt is for cosmetic n just keep quiet the whole journey :-)

ha..ha.. Its a test drive, so, dont worry,just do what u want, just dont accident or masuk longkang udahler deme.
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well, when i test drove the Preve just now, the SA also kept silent when i took the corner especially when cornered until the ESC came on laugh.gif
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post Apr 18 2012, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(<Ultraman> @ Apr 18 2012, 12:09 AM)
If just need a car from point A to point B, I think better buy Persona. Bang for buck.
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but no ESP, no 4 airbag, no 5 star EuroNCAP/Australian NCAP, no nice interior, no huge space especially the rear, no hugeass boot and no turbo.
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post Apr 18 2012, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(maverickng @ Apr 18 2012, 12:13 AM)
+1 rclxms.gif


Added on April 18, 2012, 12:14 am

but cheaper ma tongue.gif
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can opt for the 59k manual version or 62k cvt then. still got ABS, EBD and 2 airbags and 5 star euroncap laugh.gif
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post Apr 18 2012, 12:43 AM

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QUOTE(victor87 @ Apr 18 2012, 12:32 AM)
Lai....
Yes, Federal, LDP, Kesas, NPE. On your call. Bring your smart tag along ok?
Left only B line for Persona in market, M and H Line all habis dijual.
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pm me your phone number boleh? maybe tomorrow i'll give you a call after my class or maybe one day when you're bored in your showroom you can drop me a message laugh.gif
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post Apr 18 2012, 01:17 AM

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QUOTE(Kalist0 @ Apr 18 2012, 01:15 AM)
Try gti or cooper s and u know how well u need to control ur leg. So I don't think this is a safety feature, just the delay of power delivery.
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and the computer needs to process the data on how much power you want and how to deliver that power.
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post Apr 18 2012, 01:37 AM

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QUOTE(e36.hartge @ Apr 18 2012, 01:34 AM)
thats why audi comes with both turbo & supercharge brows.gif


Added on April 18, 2012, 1:35 ambecoz supercharger will compensate the weakness of turbo from standstill,no?
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yes, because they're using a bigger turbo for more high-end power. Thats why they can achieve 180hp from a 1.4 engine with linear torque and hp curve. the Preve in the other hand using low pressure light turbine so it doesn't give much high end power but low end power is there as well.
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post Apr 18 2012, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(kaneshi @ Apr 18 2012, 01:29 PM)
Just dropped by Proton COE at Shah Alam, and spotted a lot of Preve lining up and ready for delivery.

I didn't manage to test drive one. In term of built quality, it has improved a lot compared to other Proton models. 1 thing I found which is better than my current Civic2.0 is the solidness of shutting down the car boot. But, Preve does not have any button to open car boot except via remote controller or from the car.
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you mean like VW can pull the logo or bmw push the keyhole button?

QUOTE(arthur88 @ Apr 18 2012, 02:30 PM)
2 speakers at both front door + 2 at dashboard + 2 speakers at back?
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i don't see the tweeters on the dashboard worr hmm.gif

and if not mistaken, spec sheet wrote 4 speakers lol.
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post Apr 18 2012, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(kenso77 @ Apr 18 2012, 02:33 PM)
Oops, didn't notice you mention Penang. Sorry, bro


Added on April 18, 2012, 2:34 pm

It's there, bro. I just went 4 2nd test drive  biggrin.gif
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really? i going there soon for 2nd test drive at bro Victor's place. previous sa really crappy don't even know how to switch from GPS mode to radio mode doh.gif
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post Apr 18 2012, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(kenso77 @ Apr 18 2012, 02:33 PM)
Oops, didn't notice you mention Penang. Sorry, bro


Added on April 18, 2012, 2:34 pm

It's there, bro. I just went 4 2nd test drive  biggrin.gif
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i also just came back from 2nd test drive, aren't those air cond vents? instead? tweeters would have a different cover sweat.gif

QUOTE(torres09 @ Apr 18 2012, 03:00 PM)
Oh no... i think need to trade in directly after take car..
Or anyone used it before can share the performance? Grip/noise level...
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its not too bad actually. grip level is there. noise is reasonable.

QUOTE(dinwaja @ Apr 18 2012, 03:02 PM)
some say it is on par with hankook v12 for dry grip...not all indon made tires is bad...
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more like 80-90% of the V12's grip on dry. not bad indeed.

QUOTE(dares @ Apr 18 2012, 03:08 PM)
The SA who let me test drive yesterday said GTRadial is nice but pretty noisy.
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maybe its coz the NVH is so good. seriously the NVH is comparable to my mom's Harrier.


QUOTE(MeToo @ Apr 18 2012, 04:09 PM)
har bro? U dreaming of the preve Sapphire SE? That's a fake will never happen smile.gif

if it really does.. the price tag will shock u...
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it will happen, question is when. Its like last time when Proton showcased the Exora Bold. In the end it came true.

Just came back from my 2nd test drive with Victor thumbup.gif

This time managed to test highway driving and now i understand what you guys mean by lag when start from zero. The lag isn't too bad. Just need to get used to compensating for it. The Savvy AMT is alot more dangerous. In the Preve, it lags at first then rolls off gradually but in the savvy when you give the throttle more go, the car will lurk to the front violently.

Went down to federal then to old airport road where i managed to hit 190kmh. NVH is very, very well controlled. At 190km/h you don't hear much of the wind noise unlike in my Waja. Only the tire and engine noise starts to penetrate as the engine starts revving to 5xxxRPM and handling is top notch even at high speeds. when i braked from 190, the hazard lights turn on, and for quite long sweat.gif Continued on to Ara Damansara with it's curvy roads and the car handles it nicely, until a stupid BMW lady driver decides to cut to my lane when I was about to overtake her, slammed on the brakes and horned and I think the ABS kicked in but i definitely heard wheel locking sound and of course, the hazard lights came on again but only blinked a few times. I think the duration the hazard light stays on depends on the speed when you brake.

Overall it was a very nice test drive session with bro Victor and can finally get to feel the car. Nice SA indeed thumbup.gif
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post Apr 18 2012, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Apr 18 2012, 04:13 PM)
Actually I don't even think the Preve is a good car. I might offend those Proton supporters but to me, the interior is too ugly, engine wise is nothing great and I'm not sure about the NVH (sound proofing) but I guess it wouldn't be any good as well. If I really need to buy a Proton, I'd be better off with the Inspira than this Preve rolleyes.gif
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drive it to believe it bro. i hit 190kmh on the Preve on the same road i drive everyday on my Waja with adjustable coilovers with Michelin PS3 tires and the Preve handles it alot more undramatically. In my Waja i grab my wheel tightly while in the Preve it just feels like normal driving. Dare I say, the NVH is comparable to my mom's Harrier.
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QUOTE(iOnine @ Apr 18 2012, 04:33 PM)
so which color u pick?
and when will u get ur car?

rclxms.gif  rclxm9.gif
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not getting the car bro. Just test drive first then poison my friends laugh.gif

QUOTE(FrostLance @ Apr 18 2012, 04:34 PM)
so theres no cutoff at 180 like some ppl claim? yay..
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nope. In Paultan review it stated clearly he managed to hit 205kmh on GPS which is around 215-220 on speedo whistling.gif

QUOTE(clawhammer @ Apr 18 2012, 04:34 PM)
Maybe your mom is having a very old model of Toyota Harrier. It's hard to compare the sedan versus SUV smile.gif If Preve is really that good, I'm sure it can sell well globally. For now, Proton only sells well in Malaysia and no where else because in other countries, tax rate is equal for all cars. When the tax rate is equal, a Toyota is about the same price as a Proton so if Proton cars are really that good, people will buy them.
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Old model? She just got it end of last year. Company car. If you noticed, pretty much all the reviews on the car praised the NVH so i'm not alone. It definitely felt conti-like.

QUOTE(ben_panced @ Apr 18 2012, 04:38 PM)
a lot of people are still misinformed that proton free tax while imported car 300%..

i gip you this.. please read this
http://www.maa.org.my/info_duty.htm
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The Vios in Thailand is selling for around 40k starting price RM. The Preve will also cost RM40k for the CFE version if without the 85% tax in Malaysia.
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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 18 2012, 04:45 PM)
Admittedly, that alone does not mean the gomen's protectionism policy is no more. Foreign cars CKD and CBU are still subjected to gomen approval on their prices. If the pricing threatens Proton, it will not be approved.
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But the Ford Fiesta is nicely equipped and only costs 85k with DSG gearbox samore hmm.gif
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post Apr 18 2012, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 18 2012, 04:48 PM)
Yep. Ford could've imported a strip down version at a lower price, but gomen not gonna approve. So they imported a car with better specs and price it higher.

Unlike Toyota, strip down price gomen no approve, hike up the price only but the car still the same.

ADD: jibai, why you remind me of Fiesta  wub.gif  wub.gif  wub.gif
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you want? brows.gif

QUOTE(ben_panced @ Apr 18 2012, 04:50 PM)
but saying proton is taxed lesser than asean made toyota or honda is just so plain wrong


Added on April 18, 2012, 4:51 pm

errr the cheapest vios j manual in thailand is rm 50k okay.. not rm 40k
not to mention that minimum DP for cars in thailand is 25% and max loan term is 6 years  icon_idea.gif
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Whoops. just re-checked. yeap its 50k. any idea how's Thailand's Tax structure? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Apr 18 2012, 05:02 PM)
is it fast to hit from 120 to 190?use d drive?seems like i need test drive again wit victor.hehe..got test 0 to 100?
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not too bad. By the time i hit 120 it was a slight uphill, then after that downhill as it was a flyover. If you know old airport road, you'll know which flyover i'm talking about. After flyover right before i braked due to traffic i peeped at my meter and it says 190kmh. So not too bad in the sense that the car weighs 1.3+ tons plus 2 normal sized adults and 1 93kg adult(me blush.gif )

QUOTE(neo1point3 @ Apr 18 2012, 05:03 PM)
If read review and comments in the Internet, that model isn't that bad like everyone here saying smile.gif
Perodua use cheapo tyre, no ppl complaint also whistling.gif:
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Perodua give Sime tires last time. Not sure about now but my friend complained like hell when he got his Myvi SE until he changed to Michelin. Sime tires are the shittiest of the shit.


Added on April 18, 2012, 5:08 pm
QUOTE(dares @ Apr 18 2012, 05:05 PM)
Bro, mentioned many times la, D is hopeless if you wanna go fast. Use S or "Protonic" mode (paddle shifters).
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S mode more lively. Hehe.

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