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post Sep 3 2011, 04:53 PM, updated 15y ago

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Welcome to V54!!!!!!!!!

Previous threads: V53 V52 V51 V50

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The Sony Alpha User List is managed by chiahau. Click here to jump to it!

>>>[cool.gifSony Alpha F.A.Q
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Common Kelvin White Balance Settings:
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Wireless Flash Compatibility List:
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Sony Alpha Lens Line-up: HERE courtesy of vcxv

Below are the official additional accessories* that comes with respective Sony Alpha camera:

Flash hotshoe cover (Sony FASHC1AM) - A100, A77 (soft version), A700, A900
Remote Commander clip - A100, A200, A300, A350, A700, A900
Eyepiece cover / flash hotshoe cover holder - A100, A200, A300, A350, A700
Cheap Sony neckstrap vmad.gif - A200, A300, A350
Good Sony neckstrap - A100, A77, A700, A900
Wireless Infrared Remote Control - A700, A900

* list provided by albnok

Sony Alpha Support Page and Alpha User Manuals: Sony Support Site A200 A300/A350 A700 A900

How to clean your Alpha sensor by albnok:



Some useful links:

Tamron/Sigma/Sony/Minolta 70-200mm F2.8 Shootout
http://www.glaringnotebook.com/default.asp?id=1243

Ultra Wide Comparison
http://www.glaringnotebook.com/default.asp?id=1324

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Alpha street pricelist updated 26th October 2011:

Camera
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Sony A230 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM14xx
Sony A290 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM14xx
Sony A330 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM18xx
Sony A380 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM20xx
Sony A380 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM + 55-200mm F4-5.6 DT SAM = RM24xx
Sony A390 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM17xx
Sony A33 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM21xx
Sony A33 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM + 55-200mm F4-5.6 DT SAM = RM23xx
Sony A35 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM21xx
Sony A500 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM + 55-200mm F4-5.6 DT SAM = RM31xx
Sony A550 body only = RM21xx
Sony A550 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM21xx
Sony A550 + 18-250mm F3.5-6.3 DT = RM40xx
Sony A580 body only = RM24xx
Sony A580 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM27xx
Sony A55 body only + 8GB MSPD HX = RM21xx
Sony A55 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM25xx
Sony A55 + 50mm F1.8 DT SAM = RM26xx (Studio Zaloon)
Sony A55 + 16-105mm F3.5-5.6 DT = RM37xx (Studio Zaloon)
Sony A65 body only = RM26xx user posted image
Sony A65 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM28xx user posted image
Sony A700 + 18-70mm F3.5-5.6 DT = RM33xx
Sony A77 body only = RM38xx user posted image
Sony A77 + 16-50mm F2.8 DT SSM = RM57xx user posted image
Sony A850 body only = RM61xx
Sony A900 body only = RM73xx (Studio Zaloon)
Sony NEX-3 + 16mm F2.8 = RM16xx
Sony NEX-3 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 OSS = RM18xx
Sony NEX-3 + 16mm F2.8 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 OSS = RM22xx
Sony NEX-C3 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 OSS = RM19xx user posted image
Sony NEX-5 + 16mm F2.8 = RM21xx
Sony NEX-5 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 OSS = RM22xx
Sony NEX-5 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 OSS + 4GB MSPD = RM23xx
Sony NEX-5 + 18-200mm F3.5-6.3 Active OSS + 8GB MSPD + LCD protector = RM32xx
Sony NEX-5N + 16mm F2.8 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 OSS + 8GB MSPD = RM26xx user posted image

The following suffixes identify what lens comes with the camera body:

G = Sony 18-200mm F3.5-6.3 DT
K = Sony 18-70mm F3.5-5.6 DT
L = Sony 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM
P = Sony 16-105mm F3.5-5.6 DT
Q = Sony 28-75mm F2.8 SAM (or Sony 16-50mm F2.8 DT SSM with A77)
W = Sony 18-70mm F3.5-5.6 DT + Sony 75-300mm F4.5-5.6
X = Sony 18-70mm F3.5-5.6 DT + Sony 55-200mm F4-5.6 DT
Y = Sony 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM + Sony 55-200mm F4-5.6 DT (2) SAM
Z = Sony Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 16-80mm F3.5-4.5 DT ZA

For Sony NEX bodies:

A = Sony E 16mm F2.8 pancake
D = Sony E 16mm F2.8 pancake + Sony E 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 OSS
H = Sony E 18-200mm F3.5-6.3 Active OSS
K = Sony E 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 OSS

Battery Grip
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Sony VG-B30AM for A200/A300/A350 = RM6xx
Sony VG-B50AM for A450/A500/A550/A560/A580 = RM6xx
Sony VG-C70AM for A700 = RM9xx
Sony VG-C90AM for A850/A900 = RM9xx
Battery
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Sony NP-FH50 battery for A230/A290/A330/A380/A390 = RM2xx
Sony NP-FW50 battery for NEX-C3/NEX-3/NEX-5/NEX-5N/A33/A55 = RM2xx
Sony NP-FM500H battery for A100/A200/A300/A350/A450/A500/A550/A560/A580/A700/A850/A900/A77 = RM2xx

Other Accessories
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Sony FDA-EVS1 electronic viewfinder for NEX-5N = RM9xx user posted image

Flash
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Sony HVL-F20S = RM3xx user posted image
Sony HVL-F20AM = RM4xx
Sony HVL-F42AM = RM7xx
Sony HVL-F43AM = RM7xx
Sony HVL-F58AM = RM11xx

Sony/Minolta Used Lenses
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Minolta 28mm F2.8 = RM450-600
Minolta 35-70 F4 (mini beercan) = RM250-400
Minolta 50mm F1.4 = RM750-850
Minolta 50mm F1.7 = RM450-600
Sony 55-200mm F4-5.6 DT = RM450-550
Minolta 70-210mm F4 (beercan) = RM750-1100
Minolta 75-300mm F4.5-5.6 (big beercan) = RM1000-1500
Sony 75-300mm F4.5-5.6 = RM450-550

New APS-C / DT Crop Lenses
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Sony 11-18mm F4.5-5.6 DT = RM20xx
Sony Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 16-80mm F3.5-4.5 DT ZA = RM25xx
Sony 16-105mm F3.5-5.6 DT = RM16xx
Sony 18-250mm F3.5-6.3 DT = RM16xx
Sony 30mm F2.8 DT SAM Macro = RM7xx
Sony 35mm F1.8 DT SAM = RM6xx
Sony 50mm F1.8 DT SAM = RM5xx
Sigma 50-150mm F2.8 EX DC HSM Macro = RM30xx
Sony E 18-200mm F3.5-6.3 Active OSS = RM21xx

New Full-Frame Lenses
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Sony 16mm F2.8 Diagonal Fisheye = RM25xx
Sony 20mm F2.8 = RM19xx
Sony Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 16-35mm F2.8 SSM ZA = RM54xx
Sony Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 24-70mm F2.8 SSM ZA = RM54xx
Sony 24-105mm F3.5-4.5 = RM18xx
Sony Carl Zeiss Distagon T* 24mm F2.0 SSM ZA = RM38xx
Sony 28mm F2.8 = RM8xx
Sony 28-75mm F2.8 SAM = RM26xx
Sony 35mm F1.4G = RM45xx
Sony 50mm F1.4 = RM10xx
Sony 50mm F2.8 Macro = RM14xx
Sony 85mm F2.8 SAM = RM8xx
Tamron 70-200mm F2.8 Macro = RM30xx
Sigma 70-200mm F2.8 EX DG HSM Macro = RM38xx
Sony 70-200mm F2.8G SSM = RM54xx
Sony 70-300mm F4.5-5.6G SSM = RM25xx
Sony 70-400mm F4-5.6G SSM = RM54xx
Sony Carl Zeiss Planar T* 85mm F1.4 ZA = RM50xx
Sony 100mm F2.8 Macro = RM23xx
Sony Carl Zeiss Sonnar T* 135mm F1.8 ZA = RM48xx
Sony 135mm F2.8/T4.5 Smooth Transition Focus = RM36xx
Sony 500mm F8.0 AF Reflex = RM25xx
Sony 300mm F2.8G SSM = RM20xxx
Sony 1.4x Teleconverter = RM15xx
Sony 2.0x Teleconverter = RM15xx
Sony LA-EA1 lens adapter = RM5xx
Sony VCL-ECF1 fisheye adapter = RM3xx

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post Sep 3 2011, 04:55 PM

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post Sep 3 2011, 04:59 PM

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yes, first one grab sofa laugh.gif sony long life ^^

Anyone have update for a77 price stock?

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hey guys, got one inquiry.

Is there any news yet regarding a77 video performance? like can change focus point while on video mode or not?
or is there more setting/option can be done on video mode which a580 doesn't have?
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Yeah today discharge, can continue shooting!
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post Sep 3 2011, 07:00 PM

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Latest Version V53!

A100
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Send me a private message if you wanna add your name. icon_rolleyes.gif

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Wow at the new family pic! Even the new a77's are in there lol! Along with video and macro set up. Hahaha!!!
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add my name a77 tongue.gif just kidding
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sifu fansoption, wanna ask one question. Usually you macro how near you go? 1:1? Or further? Got use tripod?
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sifu fansoption, wanna ask one question. Usually you macro how near you go? 1:1? Or further? Got use tripod?
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any comment on metz gn58 flash (dunoe name) and sony f58 flash?
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Waa... new thread ad, then I must sepam pics after MIA!

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QUOTE(chiam dar siang @ Sep 4 2011, 12:43 AM)
any comment on metz gn58 flash (dunoe name) and sony f58 flash?
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Metz is more expensive than f58... it's a no brainer deal...
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Metz flases are way way more accurate and can go for a much lower power ratio than the f58. That's where the difference in price differs. You can TTL a Metz flash half a feet away from your subject (provided you can focus that close in the 1st place), and you'd still get perfect exposure. Not exactly doable with f58. Although... not sure if it's the same case for the f43.

Not exactly a no brainer, but the Metz DO have a high price tag.


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Waa... new thread ad, then I must sepam pics after MIA!

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Great work. Loving the contrast and the lone pawn. Though, I think it'd look better if the pawn was in focus.

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post Sep 4 2011, 02:52 AM

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Ksano: Even the A55 can change focus point when recording video.

chiahau: Linked to your post!

d4rkholeang3l: Nice!
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@willy, the pawn is in contrast but I guess the B&W editting makes it as if it is not smile.gif
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here's another shot smile.gif

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QUOTE(fansoption @ Sep 3 2011, 11:40 PM)

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But how you get enough shutter speed without flash at f/11-14? Wouldn't it be like 1/10 @ ISO100?

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hey guys is Sony Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 16-80mm price drop? saw it RM2200++ at garden sony shop~
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QUOTE(kuro0314 @ Sep 4 2011, 10:16 AM)
hey guys is Sony Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 16-80mm price drop? saw it RM2200++ at garden sony shop~
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How much was the supposed Sony Style RRP?
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But how you get enough shutter speed without flash at f/11-14? Wouldn't it be like 1/10 @ ISO100?
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Newbieeeeee : That dragonfly shot only F4.5 | 1/50 and ISO400 haha.

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what happen if sp90 add raynox 250? will it get more macro
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what happen if sp90 add raynox 250? will it get more macro
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jimlim007 : Yup, is attach with raynox 250 can get more macro
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your macro always so stunning!.. rclxms.gif thumbup.gif ..where you find the grasshopper?..how come i never spot any grasshopper in my house..lol..
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QUOTE(ahpingko @ Sep 4 2011, 08:38 PM)
your macro always so stunning!.. rclxms.gif  thumbup.gif ..where you find the grasshopper?..how come i never spot any grasshopper in my house..lol..
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I also have the same problem. No insects in my garden one. Very difficult to macro.

I have one question here. Are we allowed to use higher than 100 ISO for macro? Or should we worry about noice?

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QUOTE(Newbieeeeee @ Sep 4 2011, 08:42 PM)
I also have the same problem. No insects in my garden one. Very difficult to macro.

I have one question here. Are we allowed to use higher than 100 ISO for macro? Or should we worry about noice?
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There is no hard rule that says you're not allow to use high ISO for Macro, yet however not to go too high as there will be lost in details. Higher ISO is good as it will not work your flash harder. Normally I would use ISO 200-400 as base.
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QUOTE(Newbieeeeee @ Sep 4 2011, 08:42 PM)
I also have the same problem. No insects in my garden one. Very difficult to macro.

I have one question here. Are we allowed to use higher than 100 ISO for macro? Or should we worry about noice?
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You can go ISO100-400.
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jimlim007 : Yup, is attach with raynox 250 can get more macro
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your macro always so stunning!.. rclxms.gif  thumbup.gif ..where you find the grasshopper?..how come i never spot any grasshopper in my house..lol..
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Thank You. My garden. Your photo also always awesome.
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Focal Length 17 mm
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spam old photo..i reedited it.....to show more of the feather texture...

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eh william!..this 1 damn chun wei!!!!...got use ND8????

spam old photo..i reedited it.....to show more of the feather texture...

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Thanks bro... and great eyes you've got! Yeah, using a Lightcraft Fader ND.. It's variable from ND2 till ND400. Though, I wish I didn't put 3 sec. 1 sec would be sufficient.

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Hahaha.. whats with the "GRANDMASTER" title... not even close to qualify. My A700 must be feeling quite sad cause its master hasnt play with him for a long time... hehe.. will try to Tembak more photos when not that bz tongue.gif

William: waddup bro! I see that you r still very active uploading new photos in ur fb biggrin.gif

Ier: A77 vs NEX 7 ?? thats part of the reason i suddenly return to this thread to ask your guys opinion. Something to excite about


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QUOTE(clivengu @ Sep 5 2011, 12:09 AM)
Hahaha.. whats with the "GRANDMASTER" title... not even close to qualify. My A700 must be feeling quite sad cause its master hasnt play with him for a long time... hehe.. will try to Tembak more photos when not that bz tongue.gif

William: waddup bro! I see that you r still very active uploading new photos in ur fb biggrin.gif

Ier: A77 vs NEX 7 ?? thats part of the reason i suddenly return to this thread to ask your guys opinion. Something to excite about
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With your lens collection, I'd say A77... ergonomics and 'pro' looks, the A77 win hands down! biggrin.gif
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With your lens collection, I'd say A77... ergonomics and 'pro' looks, the A77 win hands down! biggrin.gif
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Thats right... The Uwa lens, 50mm F.14, flashguns, I will say A77 is my first choice... The reason i never consider NEX last time is because I like to play with Alpha wireless flash. Now NEX 7 have Alpha hotshoe... That should make a lot of difference and make me think twice bout my choice... But NEX is smaller n convenient to bring anywhere (so it wont end up lying in the house most the time)

.... right now i cannot just jaga my dslr only when going out, hv to jaga gf oso ...so it becomes quite tiring to bring bulky camera hahah..
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QUOTE(clivengu @ Sep 5 2011, 12:38 AM)
Thats right... The Uwa lens, 50mm F.14, flashguns, I will say A77 is my first choice... The reason i never consider NEX last time is because I like to play with Alpha wireless flash. Now NEX 7 have Alpha hotshoe... That should make a lot of difference and make me think twice bout my choice... But NEX is smaller n convenient to bring anywhere (so it wont end up lying in the house most the time)

.... right now i cannot just jaga my dslr only when going out, hv to jaga gf oso ...so it becomes quite tiring to bring bulky camera hahah..
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that's why my solution is NEX3.. got it for 1/3 of what the Nex7 could be priced at, so, i'd call that a deal breaker for me
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that's why my solution is NEX3.. got it for 1/3 of what the Nex7 could be priced at, so, i'd call that a deal breaker for me
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i dig nex7 anytime over A77 tongue.gif many reasons.

and a lot overpowering spec of A77, i have many ways to overcome it.

i dig size now tongue.gif
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NEX 3 tak ada trigger boss.
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zstan: Yum! Nothing extraordinary but it looks real.

ieR: Nice background!

lwliam: Nice clean waterfall shot for #1!

shukrie: Long time no see. I wonder how it would look a few steps to the left where the branch appears to be a hand, plucking the sun out.


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i managed to overcome that with my 3 Yong Nuo flashes... i use my Nex flash to optically trigger the rest... problem solved...
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QUOTE(ieR @ Sep 5 2011, 12:42 AM)
i dig nex7 anytime over A77 tongue.gif many reasons.

and a lot overpowering spec of A77, i have many ways to overcome it.

i dig size now tongue.gif
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Focusing speed can overcome?

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i managed to overcome that with my 3 Yong Nuo flashes... i use my Nex flash to optically trigger the rest... problem solved...
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thumbup.gif Wow.. expert!!! but will TTL works this way? are the flashes actually toking effectively to each other?
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thumbup.gif Wow.. expert!!! but will TTL works this way? are the flashes actually toking effectively to each other?
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clivengu : A77! Want to get more people to buy the A77 so that Sony will speed up the release of the next SLT FF! thumbup.gif whistling.gif
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Clive, nope won't be TTL. That's the hiccup.

Shootkk, yes to speed up slt FF release please biggrin.gif

IeR, really ohsem pic bro.

Xinvasion: welcome bro!


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QUOTE(lwliam @ Sep 5 2011, 11:13 AM)
Clive, nope won't be TTL. That's the hiccup.

Shootkk, yes to speed up slt FF release please biggrin.gif

IeR, really ohsem pic bro.

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What camera are u using now? Normally I don't use DRO at all. Turn them off.
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What camera are u using now? Normally I don't use DRO at all. Turn them off.
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uish...where got maa...still using Auto mode u noe...

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Baling selipar jepun kat Hazril.

Back from raya syiok x bro?
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penat woo will...instantly got 14 nieces & nephews...koyak poket... cry.gif
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uish...where got maa...still using Auto mode u noe...
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Dont know, some mushroom I think. Its super small. Like 1cm each.
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Dont know, some mushroom I think. Its super small. Like 1cm each.
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Guys wanna ask for all oof your opinions on Panhead & Ballhead tripod. I think everyone here uses Ballhead?
Thinking of switching to Panhead, but afraid I might regret. I dont like ball cause of few reasons.
1. My landscape pics always dont come out straight
2. Always almost drop my camera because when release didnt hold camera.
3. Pictures always come out senget one. Haha

Will Panhead be able to help?
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QUOTE(Newbieeeeee @ Sep 6 2011, 12:06 AM)
Haha. Extremely close. F11. Sifu memang is sifu lah!
Guys wanna ask for all oof your opinions on Panhead & Ballhead tripod. I think everyone here uses Ballhead?
Thinking of switching to Panhead, but afraid I might regret. I dont like ball cause of few reasons.
1. My landscape pics always dont come out straight
2. Always almost drop my camera because when release didnt hold camera.
3. Pictures always come out senget one. Haha

Will Panhead be able to help?
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What sifu? i not sifu lah. Well why u mushroom pic dun use F5.6 can more light and see more boookeh tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Newbieeeeee @ Sep 6 2011, 12:06 AM)
Haha. Extremely close. F11. Sifu memang is sifu lah!
Guys wanna ask for all oof your opinions on Panhead & Ballhead tripod. I think everyone here uses Ballhead?
Thinking of switching to Panhead, but afraid I might regret. I dont like ball cause of few reasons.
1. My landscape pics always dont come out straight
2. Always almost drop my camera because when release didnt hold camera.
3. Pictures always come out senget one. Haha

Will Panhead be able to help?
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Pan head doesnt guarantee str8 horizons too if your technique is wrong in the 1st place. I personally feel that ball heads are more versatile and easier to get it into position than pan head, one knob to lock and release compared to pan head's 3 way adjustments.

Your prob no.1 & 3 is easily overcome with careful alignment of the camera, or u can get a bubble level to be extra sure. But I usually use the focus dots inside the ovf to know if the shot is straight or not.

As for your no.2, a bit of being more careful of your gears will be enough, panheads will have the same issue too if you are still not careful when u use it.

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impossible, even is true, no lenses nex FF, unless get the adapter to A Mau tongue.gif
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i dont think sony will slip past any chances to produce FF nex...maybe there will release set of new FF lens...
and those new lenses Sony dint state that are specially for APSC oni... we will see...

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QUOTE(neo_lam @ Sep 6 2011, 11:59 AM)
i dont think sony will slip past any chances to produce FF nex...maybe there will release set of new FF lens...
and those new lenses Sony dint state that are specially for APSC oni... we will see...
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probably if they do make sure price go 1v1 with Leica digital RF biggrin.gif
p.s~ sony pls make 1 EVF-RF style so that neo_lam come back laugh.gif innocent.gif
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QUOTE(neo_lam @ Sep 6 2011, 11:59 AM)
i dont think sony will slip past any chances to produce FF nex...maybe there will release set of new FF lens...
and those new lenses Sony dint state that are specially for APSC oni... we will see...
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Nothing about e mount lens being FF or apsc lens, just that for now NEX sensor is based on apsc design.
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QUOTE(neo_lam @ Sep 6 2011, 11:59 AM)
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and those new lenses Sony dint state that are specially for APSC oni... we will see...
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It's possible, there might be a likelihood, albeit low.

Btw, to some A77 testers out there, some people said, after 1 sec bursting, the buffer will be full and the cam will kinda shut down? Izzit true?

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probably if they do make sure price go 1v1 with Leica digital RF  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(chiahau @ Sep 6 2011, 12:16 PM)
It's possible, there might be a likelihood, albeit low.

Btw, to some A77 testers out there, some people said, after 1 sec bursting, the buffer will be full and the cam will kinda shut down? Izzit true?
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the buffer is still low same as a55, and i think it happen to all SD slot camera also
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the buffer is still low same as a55, and i think it happen to all SD slot camera also
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If you are telling me that bursting 12fps in 24mpx RAW + JPEG can last only 1 sec, then its likely to annoy me off lol

But if at 12fps JPEG/RAW only, can it last longer?

SD card, even class 10 or extreme, expected already it will slow down but not till so drastic?
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QUOTE(Newbieeeeee @ Sep 6 2011, 12:06 AM)
Haha. Extremely close. F11. Sifu memang is sifu lah!
Guys wanna ask for all oof your opinions on Panhead & Ballhead tripod. I think everyone here uses Ballhead?
Thinking of switching to Panhead, but afraid I might regret. I dont like ball cause of few reasons.
1. My landscape pics always dont come out straight
2. Always almost drop my camera because when release didnt hold camera.
3. Pictures always come out senget one. Haha

Will Panhead be able to help?
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whho ask u use the rm40 ballhead tongue.gif buy la rm400 ballhead, with friction control, release also wont drop, small push, can turn camera around, let go also wont drop tongue.gif
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QUOTE(chiahau @ Sep 6 2011, 12:25 PM)
If you are telling me that bursting 12fps in 24mpx RAW + JPEG can last only 1 sec, then its likely to annoy me off lol

But if at 12fps JPEG/RAW only, can it last longer?

SD card, even class 10 or extreme, expected already it will slow down but not till so drastic?
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d7000 if shoot 24bit raw, it can only write till 11 images, while standard jpeg can write up to 100 images lo.

And a77 limit is 13 images sweat.gif Only if Sony would up the buffer to 24 images nod.gif

And also, where can u find a memory card that cansubstain 24mp * 12 per second?

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Sony is crazy, i never think they will ever serious making NEX into pro, look at Nex7,... there is possible they will make a mirrorless FF.... and it seem they put a lot focus on E mount, because its something that really belongs to them,... unlike A mount is still minolta legacy.


Added on September 6, 2011, 12:42 pmerm, A/D conversion takes time too... that why 850/900 has dual bionz... one to "work/metering/af/etc" during shooting, another for A/D conversion (jpeg too),

the buffer dont work one way, it also buffer for analog data... so can see drastic improvement when shooting at lower resolution/slower speed in practice (dont look at spec speed) i tested 580 can large jpeg 5fps for about 15 sec before it start to slowdown on Hi Speed Card (W 20mb/s) which i highly doubt is card speed related. 5fps x 15 sec is 75 jpegs is a lot. but compare to that A77 24mp...

anyHOW, why you need 12fps? u already got 2.1mp 60fps on A77 too.

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Pan head doesnt guarantee str8 horizons too if your technique is wrong in the 1st place. I personally feel that ball heads are more versatile and easier to get it into position than pan head, one knob to lock and release compared to pan head's 3 way adjustments.

Your prob no.1  & 3 is easily overcome with careful alignment of the camera, or u can get a bubble level to be extra sure. But I usually use the focus dots inside the ovf to know if the shot is straight or not.

As for your no.2, a bit of being more careful of your gears will be enough, panheads will have the same issue too if you are still not careful when u use it.
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whho ask u use the rm40 ballhead tongue.gif buy la rm400 ballhead, with friction control, release also wont drop, small push, can turn camera around, let go also wont drop tongue.gif
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d7000 if shoot 24bit raw, it can only write till 11 images, while standard jpeg can write up to 100 images lo.

And a77 limit is  13 images sweat.gif  Only if Sony would up the buffer to 24 images nod.gif

And also, where can u find a memory card that cansubstain 24mp * 12 per second?
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Exactly. Aww well, guess I shall not be too bothered bout that than.

Erm, Class 10 extreme class could transfer up to like 30mb? Maybe we need the good old CF back liao.

QUOTE(ieR @ Sep 6 2011, 12:36 PM)
Sony is crazy, i never think they will ever serious making NEX into pro, look at Nex7,... there is possible they will make a mirrorless FF.... and it seem they put a lot focus on E mount, because its something that really belongs to them,... unlike A mount is still minolta legacy.


Added on September 6, 2011, 12:42 pmerm, A/D conversion takes time too... that why 850/900 has dual bionz... one to "work/metering/af/etc" during shooting, another for A/D conversion (jpeg too),

the buffer dont work one way, it also buffer for analog data... so can see drastic improvement when shooting at lower resolution/slower speed in practice (dont look at spec speed) i tested 580 can large jpeg 5fps for about 15 sec before it start to slowdown on Hi Speed Card (W 20mb/s) which i highly doubt is card speed related. 5fps x 15 sec is 75 jpegs is a lot. but compare to that A77 24mp...

anyHOW, why you need 12fps? u already got 2.1mp 60fps on A77 too.
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Another good point, but 12 fps is one of the selling point of A77....

I would rather like to be able to use it, however rare XD
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5D2 22MP maximum burst specs: 3.9 shots per second, RAW buffer 14
7D 18MP maximum burst specs: 8 shots per second, RAW buffer 15
A77 24MP maximum burst specs: 12 shots per second, RAW buffer 13

U can see that a77 and 5d2 buffer is almost the same, thou 5d2 is slower in fps. So i guess the main problem is with the memory card now.
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how much shots can be taken with JPEG @12fps??
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5D2 22MP maximum burst specs: 3.9 shots per second, RAW buffer 14
  7D 18MP maximum burst specs: 8 shots per second, RAW buffer 15
  A77 24MP maximum burst specs: 12 shots per second, RAW buffer 13

U can see that a77 and 5d2 buffer is almost the same, thou 5d2 is slower in fps. So i guess the main problem is with the memory card now.
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Need some advise before getting these lenses:

Sony 28-75mm F/2.8 @ RM2500 + HOYA PRO-1 @ RM 105
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Zeiss 24-70mm F/2.8 @ RM4600


SIGMA 70-300mm APO DG Macro + Regular Filter = RM900


Do advise whether to choose which lens better.. and any other better recommendation aside from these lenses? notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(Intelicca @ Sep 6 2011, 11:48 PM)
@_@ So fast new version thread.
Need some advise before getting these lenses:

Sony 28-75mm F/2.8  @ RM2500 + HOYA PRO-1 @ RM 105
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Zeiss 24-70mm F/2.8  @ RM4600
SIGMA 70-300mm APO DG Macro + Regular Filter = RM900
Do advise whether to choose which lens better.. and any other better recommendation aside from these lenses?    notworthy.gif
Feels abit like got cheated on the SIGMA 70-300mm haha... brows.gif
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What camera body will you be using those lenses with? If it is APSC, the 28mm end wouldn't be wide enough, not that 24mm is that much wider, but its a much better investment than the 28-75 and the Zeiss is wayyyyy better in terms of everything, just so you know.
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guys..it is advisable to get beercan?? i prefer 70-210 with fix aperture F4 over my 75-300 F4.5-5.6...but it is a very old lens...

i saw 1 seller selling his beercan for quite long..yet still not yet sold.... hmm.gif hmm.gif

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QUOTE(Intelicca @ Sep 6 2011, 11:48 PM)
@_@ So fast new version thread.
Need some advise before getting these lenses:

Sony 28-75mm F/2.8  @ RM2500 + HOYA PRO-1 @ RM 105
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Zeiss 24-70mm F/2.8  @ RM4600
SIGMA 70-300mm APO DG Macro + Regular Filter = RM900
Do advise whether to choose which lens better.. and any other better recommendation aside from these lenses?    notworthy.gif
Feels abit like got cheated on the SIGMA 70-300mm haha... brows.gif
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You should ask yourself whether you're in for the long haul with Sony and whether you're going to go full frame in future. If yes then the Zeiss will be a much better investment. The 28-75mm is strictly for those with a FF cam and tight budget.

ahpingko : That depends on the condition of the lens. As you already know the beercan is an old lens. Although it's built like a tank but wear and tear do occur over time so make sure the lens is in good condition. The beercan is also a slow focusing lens although the 75-300mm is not fast by any means but keep that in mind. Of course if you like the 'Minolta' look the beercan is famous for then it's a good buy.

ieR : I like the shot but one thing bothers me. The grass flowers (the white bits on top) is much brighter than the subject and I feel that it is a little distracting in a sense. That's just me lar... nice shot overall.
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QUOTE(ahpingko @ Sep 7 2011, 08:19 AM)
guys..it is advisable to get beercan?? i prefer 70-210 with fix aperture F4 over my 75-300 F4.5-5.6...but it is a very old lens...

i saw 1 seller selling his beercan for quite long..yet still not yet sold.... hmm.gif  hmm.gif

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Ahpingko, personally I do like the beercan, and what I have to agree with shootkk is that the beercan is very slow in focusing especially in long end.
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You should ask yourself whether you're in for the long haul with Sony and whether you're going to go full frame in future. If yes then the Zeiss will be a much better investment. The 28-75mm is strictly for those with a FF cam and tight budget.

ahpingko : That depends on the condition of the lens. As you already know the beercan is an old lens. Although it's built like a tank but wear and tear do occur over time so make sure the lens is in good condition. The beercan is also a slow focusing lens although the 75-300mm is not fast by any means but keep that in mind. Of course if you like the 'Minolta' look the beercan is famous for then it's a good buy.

ieR : I like the shot but one thing bothers me. The grass flowers (the white bits on top) is much brighter than the subject and I feel that it is a little distracting in a sense. That's just me lar... nice shot overall.
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Yea I'm waiting for the launch of a new FF from Sony next year or so. For the moment is still using the cheap and basic a390. So Zeiss if for the long go? Thanks for this one.

So no comments for the 70-300mm? tongue.gif
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Yea I'm waiting for the launch of a new FF from Sony next year or so. For the moment is still using the cheap and basic a390. So Zeiss if for the long go? Thanks for this one.

So no comments for the 70-300mm?  tongue.gif
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Which 70-300?

The 75-300 or the 70-300G or the Tamron's 70-300 ?

Tested the Tamron's 70-300, quite good bargain for its price.

Unless you rather get a 70-300G from Sony, the Tamron might just do fine.

Off topic -

Many people keep saying, upgrading to FF ish good and etc. But frankly, how many of us do really use the full potential of the FF? I don't geddit when some newbie who just got lotsa cash to go around and say I've gone FF, wow~"

Personally, I do not do large size printings, 4R normally nia. I don't think I'll use the full potential of the FF since i've yet to max out my aps-c potential, thus no reason to even go FF. Is that something logical? XD

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Intelicca : if u planning for FF later by all means Zeiss FTW. but if not and u want both range with the budget of Zeiss better wait for the new 1650 f2.8 and take the Sony 70300G.

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QUOTE(gjtan @ Sep 7 2011, 09:21 AM)
Ahpingko, personally I do like the beercan, and what I have to agree with shootkk is that the beercan is very slow in focusing especially in long end.
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Zicron : if like that mike as well do RAW+Jpeg

fansoption : woahh, now can macro wif GF2 d laugh.gif. nice pic, can make wallpaper

Intelicca : if u planning for FF later by all means Zeiss FTW. but if not and u want both range with the budget of Zeiss better wait for the new 1650 f2.8 and take the Sony 70300G.

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Which 70-300?

The 75-300 or the 70-300G or the Tamron's 70-300 ?

Tested the Tamron's 70-300, quite good bargain for its price.

Unless you rather get a 70-300G from Sony, the Tamron might just do fine.

Off topic -

Many people keep saying, upgrading to FF ish good and etc. But frankly, how many of us do really use the full potential of the FF? I don't geddit when some newbie who just got lotsa cash to go around and say I've gone FF, wow~"

Personally, I do not do large size printings, 4R normally nia. I don't think I'll use the full potential of the FF since i've yet to max out my aps-c potential, thus no reason to even go FF. Is that something logical? XD
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QUOTE(popfish @ Sep 7 2011, 12:02 PM)
If FF -  that mean i need sell all my aps-c  lens b4 going FF ?, some said aps-c lens still can use, some lens just appear vignetting issue.  rclxub.gif
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APSC mode in a full frame body just doesnt work. Go attach a DT lens on an a900 and try to take a picture with it.

Advantages of FF have been quite fully explained by shootkk a few pages back...
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chia hau: well, there are no rules saying FF are only for pros, rite? it depends how ppl wanna use their camera ma... so... i think ur newbie using FF argument isn't really relevant la.. just my 2 cents. XP
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well if using A850 n A900, setting in the camera allow it to use aps-c lens but just in smaller size!  blink.gif
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If FF -  that mean i need sell all my aps-c  lens b4 going FF ?, some said aps-c lens still can use, some lens just appear vignetting issue.  rclxub.gif
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Erm depending on what you mean....

If you'd know you are going full frame, might as well prepare towards FF rather than buying DT/Aps-c lens and selling em off later right?

QUOTE(eddybeh @ Sep 7 2011, 11:16 AM)
chia hau: well, there are no rules saying FF are only for pros, rite? it depends how ppl wanna use their camera ma... so... i think ur newbie using FF argument isn't really relevant la.. just my 2 cents. XP
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No rules saying for pros only, but FF does bring an illusion that one's somehow

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QUOTE(shootkk @ Sep 7 2011, 09:07 AM)
You should ask yourself whether you're in for the long haul with Sony and whether you're going to go full frame in future. If yes then the Zeiss will be a much better investment. The 28-75mm is strictly for those with a FF cam and tight budget.

ahpingko : That depends on the condition of the lens. As you already know the beercan is an old lens. Although it's built like a tank but wear and tear do occur over time so make sure the lens is in good condition. The beercan is also a slow focusing lens although the 75-300mm is not fast by any means but keep that in mind. Of course if you like the 'Minolta' look the beercan is famous for then it's a good buy.

ieR : I like the shot but one thing bothers me. The grass flowers (the white bits on top) is much brighter than the subject and I feel that it is a little distracting in a sense. That's just me lar... nice shot overall.
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Erm depending on what you mean....

If you'd know you are going full frame, might as well prepare towards FF rather than buying DT/Aps-c lens and selling em off later right?
No rules saying for pros only, but FF does bring an illusion that one's somehow

Ehem, never mind. Scrape that topic.
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Erm depending on what you mean....

If you'd know you are going full frame, might as well prepare towards FF rather than buying DT/Aps-c lens and selling em off later right?
No rules saying for pros only, but FF does bring an illusion that one's somehow

Ehem, never mind. Scrape that topic.
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Sony APS-C lenses can be used on Sony's FF bodies. You won't get vignette because the cam will automatically crop the picture to APS-C size. That means you will get a 11MP picture from a 24MP sensor. So if all you have are APS-C lenses then it means you're wasting half the sensor! No point going FF like that. Better get the A77.

Also, trying to frame a pic when using DT lenses on a FF body is bloody difficult. The markers for APS-C borders are hard to see. So you probably end up with inaccurate framing.
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Hmm.. never thought can get some illusion from FF @_@ . Just thought about since I will be on Sony for the long go so why not just go for FF without the need to constantly change body. Thanks for the advise anyways.  notworthy.gif
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Might as well choose something you like, use it and only change it if you have to.

Anyway, its unethical for a gearhead like me to tell others not 2 upgrade, I should be screaming go get FF/A77 now anyways laugh.gif

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QUOTE(shootkk @ Sep 7 2011, 03:53 PM)
Sony APS-C lenses can be used on Sony's FF bodies. You won't get vignette because the cam will automatically crop the picture to APS-C size. That means you will get a 11MP picture from a 24MP sensor. So if all you have are APS-C lenses then it means you're wasting half the sensor! No point going FF like that. Better get the A77.

Also, trying to frame a pic when using DT lenses on a FF body is bloody difficult. The markers for APS-C borders are hard to see. So you probably end up with inaccurate framing.
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FF... i also dunno whats the hype of it, most gearhead i know tell be because more bokeh... =.= anyway, what the hell is bokeh?
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FF... i also dunno whats the hype of it, most gearhead i know tell be because more bokeh... =.= anyway, what the hell is bokeh?
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u mean  '' blur quality'  tongue.gif    ?
sorry, if i wrong definition  blush.gif
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" out of focus " simple... but many people out of focus 'image' is ugly. that is when quality of bokeh is in question. bright line, cat eye, soft transition etc smile.gif

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Syuk, wow! Respect!!!
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extra moola can get better lenses..
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C'mon everybody, repeat after me. I WAN FF. I WAN FF. I WAN FF!!!
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Very nice but I personally think its abit over-editted.
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QUOTE(Newbieeeeee @ Sep 7 2011, 08:44 PM)
Very nice but I personally think its abit over-editted.
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What's your definition of over-editing for this image then? No offence, but I don't see a way to do a 'just-enough-of-editing' in between this image and it's original one, actually. Do enlighten me. The title says it, 'Imagination'. The viewer needs to use his/her's.

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QUOTE(lwliam @ Sep 7 2011, 09:12 PM)
What's your definition of over-editing for this image then? No offence, but I don't see a way to do a 'just-enough-of-editing' in between this image and it's original one, actually. Do enlighten me. The title says it, 'Imagination'. The viewer needs to use his/her's.
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Urrr. I think the Saturn is abit too obvious in this. Makes the image look abit fake.
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shukrie : wow! nice~!


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" out of focus " simple... but many people out of focus 'image' is ugly. that is when quality of bokeh is in question. bright line, cat eye, soft transition etc smile.gif
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i agree with predator!!!

I want FF!! I want FF!!
aiyo hand itchy wanna try 16-50mm la...where can test
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QUOTE(shootkk @ Sep 7 2011, 09:07 AM)
You should ask yourself whether you're in for the long haul with Sony and whether you're going to go full frame in future. If yes then the Zeiss will be a much better investment. The 28-75mm is strictly for those with a FF cam and tight budget.

ahpingko : That depends on the condition of the lens. As you already know the beercan is an old lens. Although it's built like a tank but wear and tear do occur over time so make sure the lens is in good condition. The beercan is also a slow focusing lens although the 75-300mm is not fast by any means but keep that in mind. Of course if you like the 'Minolta' look the beercan is famous for then it's a good buy.

ieR : I like the shot but one thing bothers me. The grass flowers (the white bits on top) is much brighter than the subject and I feel that it is a little distracting in a sense. That's just me lar... nice shot overall.
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the slow focusing is slower than 75-300 itself? my 75-300 always like to perform focus hunting..lol...i like its metal body!

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Ahpingko, personally I do like the beercan, and what I have to agree with shootkk is that the beercan is very slow in focusing especially in long end.
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QUOTE(chiahau @ Sep 7 2011, 09:59 AM)
Which 70-300?

The 75-300 or the 70-300G or the Tamron's 70-300 ?

Tested the Tamron's 70-300, quite good bargain for its price.

Unless you rather get a 70-300G from Sony, the Tamron might just do fine.

Off topic -

Many people keep saying, upgrading to FF ish good and etc. But frankly, how many of us do really use the full potential of the FF? I don't geddit when some newbie who just got lotsa cash to go around and say I've gone FF, wow~"

Personally, I do not do large size printings, 4R normally nia. I don't think I'll use the full potential of the FF since i've yet to max out my aps-c potential, thus no reason to even go FF. Is that something logical? XD
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how much is that tamron 70-300?...

QUOTE(cjlai @ Sep 7 2011, 10:33 AM)
depending on wat camera body u using.....  if beercan on SLT it will not b tagged with slow speed anymore smile.gif
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i am using a550..lol..
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Orrrrr, it might not be Saturn.... that it might be that dude is in a galaxy far far away where the planet is on a binary system orbiting that Saturn-like planet, where this binary system is orbiting a Sun-like star in the centre of THAT solar-system. That way, a binary system could orbit around each other at a closer proximity - as in the image! Imagination tongue.gif lol
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QUOTE(lwliam @ Sep 7 2011, 10:04 PM)
Orrrrr, it might not be Saturn.... that it might be that dude is in a galaxy far far away where the planet is on a binary system orbiting that Saturn-like planet, where this binary system is orbiting a Sun-like star in the centre of THAT solar-system. That way, a binary system could orbit around each other at a closer proximity - as in the image! Imagination tongue.gif lol
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and that photog who took that pic in a galaxy far far away also uses the same tech as us in DSLR? tongue.gif
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And it could be recorded on some alien organic substrate which has quite a narrow dynamic hence the total dark foreground, losing all details there.

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QUOTE(porkchop @ Sep 7 2011, 09:55 PM)
i agree with predator!!!

I want FF!! I want FF!! 
aiyo hand itchy wanna try 16-50mm la...where can test
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Wait Unker chin lol.

Or test in your dreams. Slowly lo.

QUOTE(ahpingko @ Sep 7 2011, 10:01 PM)
the slow focusing is slower than 75-300 itself? my 75-300 always like to perform focus hunting..lol...i like its metal body!
how much is that tamron 70-300?...
i am using a550..lol..
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Tamron 70-300? The newer one with USD ka? Around 1.4k perhaps?
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QUOTE(chiahau @ Sep 7 2011, 10:34 PM)
Wait Unker chin lol.

Or test in your dreams. Slowly lo.
Tamron 70-300? The newer one with USD ka? Around 1.4k perhaps?
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QUOTE(popfish @ Sep 7 2011, 10:38 PM)
emm,, better than tamron 18270 pzd ? biggrin.gif
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Put it this way, (most of the time, not always) the shorter the focal length from its widest point to the narrowest point, the better the image quality is from that particular lens. So, an 18-55 kit lens is actually better than the 18-70, and so on.
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QUOTE(lwliam @ Sep 7 2011, 10:41 PM)
Put it this way, (most of the time, not always) the shorter the focal length from its widest point to the narrowest point, the better the image quality is from that particular lens. So, an 18-55 kit lens is actually better than the 18-70, and so on.
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This is extremely true. But if I were to have a 'free and easy' theme I'll most prob get the Tamron 18270. 1 lens gaodim all the problems.

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QUOTE(lwliam @ Sep 7 2011, 10:41 PM)
Put it this way, (most of the time, not always) the shorter the focal length from its widest point to the narrowest point, the better the image quality is from that particular lens. So, an 18-55 kit lens is actually better than the 18-70, and so on.
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agree with that nod.gif ,

18270 pzd but it should be my travel lens( 1 lens shoot all ) ? i heard this lens is not all focus length have nice quality photo

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QUOTE(popfish @ Sep 7 2011, 11:00 PM)
agree with that  nod.gif  ,

18270 pzd but it should be my travel lens( 1 lens shoot all ) ? i  heard this lens is  not all focus length have nice quality photo
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Most, almost all of these 'all-rounder' lenses have really bad and soft image quality at the telephoto lens. If I were to make a smart guess, I think this lens should start becoming soft at.... 130mm?

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QUOTE(popfish @ Sep 7 2011, 11:00 PM)
agree with that   nod.gif  ,

18270 pzd but it should be my travel lens( 1 lens shoot all ) ? i  heard this lens is  not all focus length have nice quality photo
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Wouldn't your Tammy 18-270 cover enough range as a travel lens?

edit: sorry, just noticed that it wasn't you who asked the question in the 1st place tongue.gif

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For me, when I go travelling, sure I using begpack and full armor loaded, dont wan to miss the moment. Else after came back just said, aiyo...why so soft, not nice...bla bla bla...
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Wouldn't your Tammy 18-270 cover enough range as a travel lens?

edit: sorry, just noticed that it wasn't you who asked the question in the 1st place tongue.gif
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tongue.gif is ok, just share about using lens experience , i think 18270 enough for me blush.gif ,+ 1 unit 50mm f1.7 = gud for travel

QUOTE(gjtan @ Sep 7 2011, 11:22 PM)
For me, when I go travelling, sure I using begpack and full armor loaded, dont wan to miss the moment. Else after came back just said, aiyo...why so soft, not nice...bla bla bla...
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mean travel + prime lens notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(gjtan @ Sep 7 2011, 11:22 PM)
For me, when I go travelling, sure I using begpack and full armor loaded, dont wan to miss the moment. Else after came back just said, aiyo...why so soft, not nice...bla bla bla...
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Quite the same for me.

My usual travel arsenal (not the day trip kind) would be - 17-35 f/2.8-4, 24-70 f/2.8 Z, 70-210 f/4, 50 f/1.7, F58 (and in future trips, the 85 f/1.4 G as well)
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Actually it depends on how you plan your shots and limitations BEFORE you go travelling.

For example, the last time i went to Korea i knew i was going to shoot more landscapes and street shots. There is a stage performance in my itinerary but I can't use my flash for the event, so i just decided to drop my tele lens at home, due to the fact that my camera can't go beyond iso 800 under super poor lighting and having a super small f stop (f4-f5.6) isn't going to help much. In the end i compromised by getting to the front row and shot at 50mm f2.8 throughout the whole show and cropped my photos.

but then again, if you have the arsenal and is willing to bear with the weight, by all means go ahead. biggrin.gif

But you will realise this is quite tedious especially when you travel to cold countries.

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mmm when i first brought my 1750... i totally neglected 50mm... now that i sold 1750, i rediscover how good is 50mm... with it, i even discover the marvels of it with FF.

i understand the 'strength' of FF.... but i am not 'greed' of it. but seriously, if one ask me, what is my travel/walkaround/kitlens, i say it loudly, 50mm... (and maybe future 24 F2Z)... that all. they could deliver all studio and clubs and event shoting.
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mmm when i first brought my 1750... i totally neglected 50mm... now that i sold 1750, i rediscover how good is 50mm... with it, i even discover the marvels of it with FF.

i understand the 'strength' of FF.... but i am not 'greed' of it. but seriously, if one ask me, what is my travel/walkaround/kitlens, i say it loudly, 50mm... (and maybe future 24 F2Z)... that all. they could deliver all studio and clubs and event shoting.
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err... i have a850 in my hand for about 6 month ++ liao tongue.gif, but i uses A300 or 580 most of the time... because i rather travel light...(850+1635 is DAMN heavy, no likey) and ever since i gotten nex, i totally neglect all my DSLR! now i gotten myself a Nex3... i spend my time with the 16mm almost everytime... -___-|||

at first, i dont feel any special bout the 24F2Z, until i found out the MFD, then wow, i can do lots of shootingstyle with that MFD smile.gif

buying a DSLR is just buying, but using it, is not about iso limit, or aperture or superzoom all in one range. its about knowing every possibility what it can do for you, like how i able to shoot a whole wedding with just 50mm on A300... how i can use 70200 shot a photo and it look SO WIDE... people say i am crazy, indeed i am. smile.gif
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QUOTE(ieR @ Sep 7 2011, 06:03 PM)
shukrie : wow! nice~!


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" out of focus " simple... but many people out of focus 'image' is ugly. that is when quality of bokeh is in question. bright line, cat eye, soft transition etc smile.gif
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tq bro

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Syuk, wow! Respect!!!
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respect sama u juga !

QUOTE(Newbieeeeee @ Sep 7 2011, 08:44 PM)
Very nice but I personally think its abit over-editted.
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tq .. btw its my imagination only biggrin.gif

QUOTE(jimlim007 @ Sep 7 2011, 08:57 PM)
this i seen before, it is in Predator movie  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ieR @ Sep 8 2011, 12:19 PM)
buying a DSLR is just buying, but using it, is not about iso limit, or aperture or superzoom all in one range. its about knowing every possibility what it can do for you, like how i able to shoot a whole wedding with just 50mm on A300... how i can use 70200 shot a photo and it look SO WIDE... people say i am crazy, indeed i am. smile.gif
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wah! shukrie! veli nice, prefect imagination!

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QUOTE(EvanKeat @ Sep 8 2011, 03:31 PM)
wah! shukrie! veli nice, prefect imagination!

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Those who wish to pre order a77 please do so quickly brows.gif
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QUOTE(Zicron @ Sep 8 2011, 06:55 PM)
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Pre-order from who/where?
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some one says : as i’m in vienna right now, i saw a special pre-order offer at “foto sobotka” (http://www.sobotka.at/). if you preorder the a77 till the end of september, you get an extra battery for free (1399€ body only, 2049€ w/ 16-50)

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QUOTE(jimlim007 @ Sep 8 2011, 07:02 PM)
what price hmm.gif
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some reference from CHINA ,HONG KONG, TAIWAN

HongKong (1.00 MYR = 2.60852 HKD)
HK$9,990 (RM 3,829.22) : SLT-A77V (Body) + MS-HX8B (8GB) + STP-GB1AM
HK$11,680 (RM 4,477.00) : SLT-A77V (Body) + MS-HX8B (8GB) + STP-GB1AM + VG-C77AM (BattGrip)
HK$14,990 (RM 5,745.77) : SLT-A77V (Body + SAL1650) + MS-HX8B (8GB) + STP-GB1AM
HK$16,680 (RM 6,393.56) : SLT-A77V (Body + SAL1650) + MS-HX8B (8GB) + STP-GB1AM + VG-C77AM (BattGrip)

http://www.sonystyle.com.hk/products/apps/...elCode=_M034262


CHINA (1.00 MYR = 2.13641 RMB)
RMB 9,899(RM 4,633.91) : SLT-A77V(Body) + CS-BP2(Bag) + MS-HX8B(8GB) + PCK-LM3AM(screen protector)
RMB 14,299(RM 6,693.63) : SLT-A77V(Body + SAL1650) + CS-BP2(Bag) + MS-HX8B (8GB) + PCK-LM3AM(screen protector)
RMB 14,999(RM 7,021.31) : SLT-A77V(Body + SAL1680Z) + CS-BP2(Bag) + MS-HX8B (8GB) + PCK-LM3AM(screen protector)
RMB 7,299(RM 3,416.80) : SLT-A77V(Body + SAL1855) + CS-SC8(Bag) + MS-HX8B (8GB) + PCK-LM2AM(screen protector)

http://www.sonystyle.com.cn/products/dslr/a77_promo.htm


Taiwan (1.00 MYR = 9.74376 TWD)
NTD 39,980 (RM 4,104.97) : SLT-A77V (BODY)
NTD 42,980 (RM 4,413.08) : SLT-A77VK (BODY + SAL1855)
NTD 57,980 (RM 5,953.25): SLT-A77VQ (BODY + SAL1650)

http://store.sony.com.tw/is-bin/INTERSHOP....me=pi-dslr-dslr

Honestly, 2049 euro is too expensive! doh.gif


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Pre-order from who/where?
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William u long time dint log in forum liao sweat.gif

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wa, HK pricce the best
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paging for shootkk, wanna ask about sony 20mm f2.8. I read kurt munger's review and the coma and bokeh does disappoint me a little. How's ur experience about the bokeh and coma?

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if HK street price will be cheaper then..
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aiyo..... my A580 so fragile one....change lens too frequent will cause the lens release button to get jammed......now no camera for photoshoot...

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this camera 2-3 mths old ler..but can only go sony center on monday ahhahaha
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Haha zhishan me immune to a77 so it's ok lol. Unless got a deal a850/900 for rm3500 I can go kisiao
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Haha zhishan me immune to a77 so it's ok lol. Unless got a deal a850/900 for rm3500 I can go kisiao
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QUOTE(eddybeh @ Sep 8 2011, 08:57 PM)
paging for shootkk, wanna ask about sony 20mm f2.8. I read kurt munger's review and the coma and bokeh does disappoint me a little. How's ur experience about the bokeh and coma?
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Alphanatics one dude selling Minolta 20mm f/2.8 RM950. You might wanna take a look. Half price. But filled with scratches and not sure bt cracks.

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post Sep 8 2011, 10:43 PM

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newbieeeeee: thx for the info. however, i'm not in a hurry for any lens and don have budget for anything extra yet. just wanna know more about them oni. XP tq
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QUOTE(lwliam @ Sep 8 2011, 09:57 PM)
Haha zhishan me immune to a77 so it's ok lol. Unless got a deal a850/900 for rm3500 I can go kisiao
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lol william. better don't step in alphanatics. dangerous place to be now
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Wait where? Alphanatics WTS page ah?
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zircon, nope nope, i am still strong against A77 until I try it out first.....hahahahaha
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QUOTE(lwliam @ Sep 8 2011, 11:02 PM)
Wait where? Alphanatics WTS page ah?
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QUOTE(porkchop @ Sep 8 2011, 11:04 PM)
zircon, nope nope, i am still strong against A77 until I try it out first.....hahahahaha
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6k for body, lens and VG?

I sapu, no need think twice also LOL
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tq bro
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QUOTE(Zicron @ Sep 8 2011, 11:05 PM)
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post Sep 9 2011, 12:50 AM

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The price for a77 is about 4k plus (body only)
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evilhomura89, very sharp - what's lens?
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Sep 9 2011, 06:58 AM)
evilhomura89, very sharp - what's lens?
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it's the 70-300 non-G, non-SSM version
http://www.dyxum.com/lenses/Sony-AF-75-300....6_lens316.html
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QUOTE(evilhomura89 @ Sep 9 2011, 08:50 AM)
thank you thank you
it's the 70-300 non-G, non-SSM version
http://www.dyxum.com/lenses/Sony-AF-75-300....6_lens316.html
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paging for shootkk, wanna ask about sony 20mm f2.8. I read kurt munger's review and the coma and bokeh does disappoint me a little. How's ur experience about the bokeh and coma?
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The 20mm f2.8 lens is an ULTRA WIDE lens for me so I use it to shoot landscape and wide spaces most times. That means I seldom get bokeh out from that lens, much less coma. I mean sometimes in the real world, tests like those done on review sites are seldom encountered. Why worry so much?

Seldom do I go so close and wide open that I get bokeh using that lens. The question you should be asking yourself is what do you intend to do with that lens? Does the so-called weaknesses listed in those tests apply to you and the way you shoot?

Why worry about bokeh and coma on a lens meant for landscapes and shooting at f8 to f11? The 20mm f2.8 MFD is not all that impressive either so if you wanna get really close, try a macro lens instead.
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Can i have this one tongue.gif ?
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QUOTE(shootkk @ Sep 9 2011, 09:25 AM)
Seldom do I go so close and wide open that I get bokeh using that lens. The question you should be asking yourself is what do you intend to do with that lens? Does the so-called weaknesses listed in those tests apply to you and the way you shoot?
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QUOTE(ieR @ Sep 9 2011, 09:17 AM)
75 300 ..... Not 70300
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Can i have this one  tongue.gif  ?
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For Some Reasons after ages from previous FM Upgrades. the " System Freeze " issue arouse again......lol and i thought it was fixed last update.....LOLOLOL


Added on September 9, 2011, 4:55 pmAdd on: But it's harder to trigger the problem compared to last time...maybe time to buy TOTO

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hi guys, if anyone remember me, my dslra230 with the sensor alignment problem.. i just received the quotation from sony on how much to repair the sensor problem..

it is rm945.00.. shocking.gif doh.gif sweat.gif sad.gif

guys, take very very very very gud care of ur camera, becoz if happen like me.. very sad n frustrated.. just a little drop destroy my camera..
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hi guys, if anyone remember me, my dslra230 with the sensor alignment problem.. i just received the quotation from sony on how much to repair the sensor problem..

it is rm945.00.. shocking.gif  doh.gif  sweat.gif  sad.gif

guys, take very very very very gud care of ur camera, becoz if happen like me.. very sad n frustrated.. just a little drop destroy my camera..
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QUOTE(uzary @ Sep 9 2011, 06:07 PM)
hi guys, if anyone remember me, my dslra230 with the sensor alignment problem.. i just received the quotation from sony on how much to repair the sensor problem..

it is rm945.00.. shocking.gif  doh.gif  sweat.gif  sad.gif

guys, take very very very very gud care of ur camera, becoz if happen like me.. very sad n frustrated.. just a little drop destroy my camera..
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Uzary, try ask for a quotation from shops that repairs cameras instead. They could be cheaper. I have a blog post of the places to go to in KL somewhere in my blog, try dig around in it, it's somewhere in there.

Good luck bro.
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QUOTE(lwliam @ Sep 9 2011, 09:15 PM)
Uzary, try ask for a quotation from shops that repairs cameras instead. They could be cheaper. I have a blog post of the places to go to in KL somewhere in my blog, try dig around in it, it's somewhere in there.

Good luck bro.
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Added on September 9, 2011, 10:32 pmorange77 mirrorless, but why when in 12 fps, there is something fliping in front sensor, what is that hmm.gif



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Jimlim, that 'moving' thing is the shutter. Mirror is just one part of the moving mechanism in a dslr/SLR. The shutter is the one that controls fast your shutter speed is. So now without the *mirror, which is the limiting factor for high frame rate, there is one less moving part. Where at the same time removes away the mirror flip delay so now enabling the a77 to be the cheapest dslr in the market to achieve 12fps - with its 'frame rate' competitors that have a 5 digit price tag to play catch up.

*Edit: should be replaced with 'fully reflective mirror'

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Without the mirror, the camera is also able to have full phase detect AF at all times even at super high shooting speeds.
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jimlim007, lwliam, zstan : before it continue to mislead people that A77 is mirrorless, A77 Has A Mirror. its fixed, it doesnt flips, its translucent... remember? mad.gif
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QUOTE(ieR @ Sep 10 2011, 12:52 AM)
jimlim007, lwliam, zstan : before it continue to mislead people that A77 is mirrorless, A77 Has A Mirror. its fixed, it doesnt flips, its translucent... remember? mad.gif
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The word translucent is a very misleading word that Sony use.

adjective /transˈlo͞osnt/  /tranz-/ 

(of a substance) Allowing light, but not detailed images, to pass through; semitransparent

it should be properly known as transparent instead
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its not transparent as it requires 30% image to be reflected, remember? allows light passing though while remaining some on the surface tongue.gif

words is just a dictionary game. as long it let u push your skill to make wonderful photo, its good enough.... i always smile when i think of this quote

"black cat, white cat, cat that catches the rat is good car"

olympus, panasonic or samsung, camera that allow you to express your thoughts are good camera tongue.gif
(intentionally leaving out the 3 'sensitive' names)
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QUOTE(ieR @ Sep 10 2011, 01:49 AM)
its not transparent as it requires 30% image to be reflected, remember? allows light passing though while remaining some on the surface tongue.gif (and its actually, transmitting +/-70% and reflecting +/-30%, which technically makes it a beam splitter instead - but we don't go calling it a dSLBS now do we? LOL)

words is just a dictionary game. as long it let u push your skill to make wonderful photo, its good enough.... i always smile when i think of this quote

"black cat, white cat, cat that catches the rat is good car"<------- HAHAHHAHAHAHHAA, vroom vroom.... meow!  whistling.gif  whistling.gif I am smiling now too biggrin.gif

olympus, panasonic or samsung, camera that allow you to express your thoughts are good camera tongue.gif
(intentionally leaving out the 3 'sensitive' names)
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So long didn't share any photo. Here is one I like to share. Taken on timer using 11-16mm tokina lens on a700 . Photoshop to give a nostalgia feel. Taken at a museum at Cameron highland during holiday trip.

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Self portrait with my gf .. I like it but a bit paiseh to share actually..hehe

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Awwwwwwww, ain't that sweetttttt.

And I think you tuned down the right side (and a bit of the left side as well) of the 1st pic a bit too much, I can see the overhanging lamp was given a bit too much editing (vignetting)

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clive, how you did that color in first pic? ive been searching this color for a long time! tongue.gif and soooo swwweeettt, bila kahwin?


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QUOTE(uzary @ Sep 9 2011, 06:07 PM)
hi guys, if anyone remember me, my dslra230 with the sensor alignment problem.. i just received the quotation from sony on how much to repair the sensor problem..

it is rm945.00.. shocking.gif  doh.gif  sweat.gif  sad.gif

guys, take very very very very gud care of ur camera, becoz if happen like me.. very sad n frustrated.. just a little drop destroy my camera..
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Aiyah why so expensive?
Hmmm lastime rm6xx only..

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Oh I know now, coz william also like to kasi kena org..
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QUOTE(clivengu @ Sep 10 2011, 03:01 AM)
So long didn't share any photo. Here is one I like to share. Taken on timer using 11-16mm tokina lens on a700 . Photoshop to give a nostalgia feel. Taken at a museum at Cameron highland during holiday trip.

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Feel free to comment... tongue.gif  Away from photography for almost half a year... Need to get back with the hobby.
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Self portrait you look perfectly normal, but your gf more like.. 'posing' rather than natural.
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Nice. Awesome.

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heyy guys . can i join in sony group ? smile.gif

im new using sony alpha a200 . smile.gif .

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QUOTE(lwliam @ Sep 9 2011, 11:09 PM)
Jimlim, that 'moving' thing is the shutter. Mirror is just one part of the moving mechanism in a dslr/SLR. The shutter is the one that controls fast your shutter speed is. So now without the mirror, which is the limiting factor for high frame rate, the is one less moving part. Where at the same time removes away the mirror flip delay so now enabling the a77 to be the cheapest dslr in the market to achieve 12fps - with its 'frame rate' competitors that have a 5 digit price tag to play catch up.
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i see. one more question, i heard SAR admin used to mentioned Nex7 do not have "mirror" so the there will not be 30% light loss, he mentioned that is the reason high hope the IQ might better than a77. What is actual different orange77 and orange7 about the confuse mirror? This is also link to the nex adapter A Mau right which contain a translutcent mirror inside hmm.gif ?


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QUOTE(zstan @ Sep 9 2011, 11:22 PM)
Without the mirror, the camera is also able to have full phase detect AF at all times even at super high shooting speeds.
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QUOTE(ieR @ Sep 10 2011, 12:52 AM)
jimlim007, lwliam, zstan : before it continue to mislead people that A77 is mirrorless, A77 Has A Mirror. its fixed, it doesnt flips, its translucent... remember? mad.gif
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that is true, over internet from many reviewer (imaging companies) and event canikon claim that the term is not exist and not true and mis lead consumer. seriously, i not really those term, as long as have great camera with reasonable price thumbup.gif

but how the shutter mechanism work, fliping? or is a plat block the light in insane fast open -close open close? if true then it is like the laser shutter which in my working area laugh.gif just not tht fast...


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heyy guys . can i join in sony group ? smile.gif

im new using sony alpha a200 . smile.gif .
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even you are not sony user we are welcome you here. there is no boundaries thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(ieR @ Sep 10 2011, 12:52 AM)
jimlim007, lwliam, zstan : before it continue to mislead people that A77 is mirrorless, A77 Has A Mirror. its fixed, it doesnt flips, its translucent... remember? mad.gif
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QUOTE(jimlim007 @ Sep 10 2011, 12:28 PM)
i see. one more question, i heard SAR admin used to mentioned Nex7 do not have "mirror" so the there will not be 30% light loss, he mentioned that is the reason high hope the IQ might better than a77. What is actual different orange77 and orange7 about the confuse mirror? This is also link to the nex adapter A Mau right which contain a translutcent mirror inside hmm.gif ?


Added on September 10, 2011, 12:29 pm

zstan, would like to see your face  drool.gif  look pretty gal  laugh.gif


Added on September 10, 2011, 12:31 pm

that is true, over internet from many reviewer (imaging companies) and event canikon claim that the term is not exist and not true and mis lead consumer. seriously, i not really those term, as long as have great camera with reasonable price  thumbup.gif

but how the shutter mechanism work, fliping? or is a plat block the light in insane fast open -close open close? if true then it is like the laser shutter which in my working area  laugh.gif just not tht fast...


Added on September 10, 2011, 12:32 pm

wa , so nice, where are you get so many flower? blink.gif


Added on September 10, 2011, 12:33 pm

even you are not sony user we are welcome you here. there is no boundaries  thumbup.gif
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Hahahahahhahahaha, zstan is a dude, bro!!! You just made a move on a dude...

I'll leave the a77 vs n7 argument to some other person. Early tip, one is translucent, another is mirrorless. Go figure. Real life example, a55 vs nex5.
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Hahahahahhahahaha, zstan is a dude, bro!!! You just made a move on a dude...

I'll leave the a77 vs n7 argument to some other person. Early tip, one is translucent, another is mirrorless. Go figure. Real life example, a55 vs nex5.
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wahahaha, now i baru understand the different of a77 n n7 doh.gif

geli lo that zstan, guy put cha bor picture, very misleading instead the mirror laugh.gif
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QUOTE(jimlim007 @ Sep 10 2011, 12:47 PM)
wahahaha, now i baru understand the different of a77 n n7  doh.gif

geli lo that zstan, guy put cha bor picture, very misleading instead the mirror  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(jimlim007 @ Sep 10 2011, 12:28 PM)


that is true, over internet from many reviewer (imaging companies) and event canikon claim that the term is not exist and not true and mis lead consumer. seriously, i not really those term, as long as have great camera with reasonable price  thumbup.gif

but how the shutter mechanism work, fliping? or is a plat block the light in insane fast open -close open close? if true then it is like the laser shutter which in my working area  laugh.gif just not tht fast...
The shutter is using 2 curtain movement, 1st curtain comes downward revealing the sensor to light and follows by the 2nd curtain shutting up the lightpath completing the light exposure cycle. The faster the shutter speed, the smaller the gap between each curtain movement.

Laser shutters doesn't work in the same way. There are 2 ways to trigger a laser output from the aperture. One is using electro-optics (Q-switched), another is via acousto-optic substrate (sound). The aperture on laser outputs are usually slabs of crystals that have a known resonance frequency. By generating a matching sound wave aka frequency, the molecules inside the crystal will align in a way that allows light to pass through. By cutting of that sound wave, light will not pass. By controlling electrical and/or acoustic pulses are much more immediate than controlling mechanical shutters, where timing in laser output is very very critical. Laser shutters can go lower and below of 1/100,000 sec if not faster. Camera shutters are nothing compared to that.

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hehe my picture temporay oni, will restore back to ball hair ^^ erm, u have miss undertoos my laser shutter. nvm la laugh.gif

so eagle to watch a77 vs n7 soon on nov face off drool.gif

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i see. one more question, i heard SAR admin used to mentioned Nex7 do not have "mirror" so the there will not be 30% light loss, he mentioned that is the reason high hope the IQ might better than a77. What is actual different orange77 and orange7 about the confuse mirror? This is also link to the nex adapter A Mau right which contain a translutcent mirror inside hmm.gif ?


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zstan, would like to see your face  drool.gif  look pretty gal  laugh.gif


Added on September 10, 2011, 12:31 pm

that is true, over internet from many reviewer (imaging companies) and event canikon claim that the term is not exist and not true and mis lead consumer. seriously, i not really those term, as long as have great camera with reasonable price  thumbup.gif

but how the shutter mechanism work, fliping? or is a plat block the light in insane fast open -close open close? if true then it is like the laser shutter which in my working area  laugh.gif just not tht fast...


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wa , so nice, where are you get so many flower? blink.gif


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anyone know what's the price range of N7??
thinking of changing my camera to N7...
because my A500 also got the sensor alignment problem...
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swhat is the SLT or mirrorless shutter life span? with recently new annouced high fps, would consider faster the shutter go hell...
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anyone know what's the price range of N7??
thinking of changing my camera to N7...
because my A500 also got the sensor alignment problem...
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ahaha... your incident similar to me.. I ask my friend to hold up my camera just less than 5 minutes,
later after go back home and check, it happen... and this guy pretend nothing happen.
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sigh. am i the only guy who spent rm900 to repair to sensor alignment stuff sad.gif
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sigh. am i the only guy who spent rm900 to repair to sensor alignment stuff sad.gif
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Added on September 10, 2011, 8:05 pmtypically we use remote control to snap photo, but is there device to use remote control to start stop video recording?

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sigh. am i the only guy who spent rm900 to repair to sensor alignment stuff sad.gif
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my camera still got hope...because last time i go sony service centre...it says my camera's warrantee still not registered...
so now i think that if i go back to the shop where i bought my camera....maybe can ask if they can make me a new receipt...
pretend i bought later(to claim back my warrantee brows.gif) ...but i dun think its possible la...
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ahaha... your incident similar to me.. I ask my friend to hold up my camera just less than 5 minutes,
later after go back home and check, it happen... and this guy pretend nothing happen.
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Aiyah why so expensive?
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Wah lwiliam, got a900 in garage sales! Rm4k! Cz1635 RM3.5k. A900 bg rm500. What you waiting for? Whole set lah!
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Crap wehhhhh. That's fooooking cheap!!! Bonus tak masuk lagi laaaaaaa... T.T


Added on September 10, 2011, 11:19 pmEh u sure or not in garage sale? Nothing also?

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Crap wehhhhh. That's fooooking cheap!!! Bonus tak masuk lagi laaaaaaa... T.T


Added on September 10, 2011, 11:19 pmEh u sure or not in garage sale? Nothing also?
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I just saw, but seller is with 0 post count and selling things SOOO cheap. Sounds too good to be true. That by itself is enough to make me raise a red flag d. Although that deal does seem really really sweet.
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I just saw, but seller is with 0 post count and selling things SOOO cheap. Sounds too good to be true. That by itself is enough to make me raise a red flag d. Although that deal does seem really really sweet.
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Item(s): DSLR A850 (Full Frame DSLR Camera) + SAL 85F14Z (Carls Zeiss Lens)

Package includes: Complete Box

Price: DSLR A850 (RM 3600) + SAL 85F14Z (RM 3800)

Reason for sale: Assisting uncle (in his 50') in selling. His reason: camera too big for traveling. Been keeping it at home after 5 months purchased. Wants to sell now after 1 year.

i feel it sounded so fishy..lol...selling a900 and a850 at the same time..
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I just saw, but seller is with 0 post count and selling things SOOO cheap. Sounds too good to be true. That by itself is enough to make me raise a red flag d. Although that deal does seem really really sweet.
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Too cheap, and likely to be a con liao....

Unless COD la, itu pun need bawak 10 people lol.
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Wah who got that D3S untung sial. If I get that I terus sell all Sony gear and jump ship d. Hahahahaha
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I just saw, but seller is with 0 post count and selling things SOOO cheap. Sounds too good to be true. That by itself is enough to make me raise a red flag d. Although that deal does seem really really sweet.
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Wah who got that D3S untung sial. If I get that I terus sell all Sony gear and jump ship d. Hahahahaha
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If I remember correctly, her daughter wanted to get a camera for her degree course, before going overseas. So she thought, "Why not get a DSLR?".

She was looking around and then decided to get the best DSLR out there, so that there is no more reason to upgrade. And then she bought the D3s for like RM14k something..

Played around with it and found that it was quite difficult to operate. Didn't quite understand a lot of the functions and technical details so she wanted to sought for help from someone, but there wasn't anyone who could help her.

So, she thought "Screw it!" and later sold it to a photography student in some IPTA for RM5k laugh.gif
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seriouss crap???? so cheap.....damn i would sure wanna jump on that wagon also
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QUOTE(lwliam @ Sep 10 2011, 11:25 PM)
I just saw, but seller is with 0 post count and selling things SOOO cheap. Sounds too good to be true. That by itself is enough to make me raise a red flag d. Although that deal does seem really really sweet.
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Well he has 0 post counts but his cumulative post got about 6 la..and he sold stuffs before..

so..

GO BUY LA WHAT CHU WAITING FOR????
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Waiting for bonus to come in. Now 0 fund. Need to furnish new house some more. If bonus come in d and the deal is still here, I will cod with him.
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2k? That's hella lot for a macro lens! SP90, Sony macro.. you choose.
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2k? That's hella lot for a macro lens! SP90, Sony macro.. you choose.
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SP90 POWER! Even put on my GF still power.
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ops doh.gif got used to it, in lyn if asking sumthing witout budget sure kena tembak vmad.gif

so sp90 is the best value for money macro?

need to test test 1st, mr eddy can i?? icon_idea.gif
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who got funding buy the a900 now then when william got bonus u sell to him...

who here got the 16-35Z can go TT or not?? I wanna play more with this lens.. I like the way it renders contrast.....


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QUOTE(soket @ Sep 11 2011, 12:27 AM)
ops  doh.gif  got used to it, in lyn if asking sumthing witout budget sure kena tembak  vmad.gif

so sp90 is the best value for money macro?

need to test test 1st, mr eddy can i??  icon_idea.gif
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No need to test one lah! If you're interested in macro, sure you won't regret.
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kamxia eddy! laugh.gif

at 1st i tot of getting new body, but then a77 pricing quite high n not yet release also, so might juz get a new lens n play wit it

sp90 FF lens?

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kamxia eddy!  laugh.gif

at 1st i tot of getting new body, but then a77 pricing quite high n not yet release also, so might juz get a new lens n play wit it

sp90 FF lens?
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No need to test one lah! If you're interested in macro, sure you won't regret.
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mana macro pic?
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16-35Z, Ed Paul got
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william, edpaul very jauh, but now no need think already

if the guy in garage sale punya 85 f1.4 deal is real, i get that first tongue.gif
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lwliam: oh ya, missed out him.

porkchop: actually looking at the photos produce, i feel like 20mm f2.8 is on par with 16-35z leh. of coz comparing at similar focal length la. just my 2 cents la.. correct me if i miss out anything.

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jimlim007: That 8GB Memory Stick Pro-HG Duo HX has 200x or 30MB/s read, 100x or 15MB/s write card. Coincidentally, I just bought a 16GB Sandisk Extreme Pro SDHC UHS-I rated at 300x 45MB/s read and write speeds for RM250 at Low Yat Plaza.

http://www.dpreview.com/news/1005/10051303...tickhx30mbs.asp

Hmmm good question! What if the A77 was in Video mode and we pressed the remote shutter?

NutZ748: Nice #2 and #3!

Codyx: Could be better lit on the left.
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guys, i wana ask, the sensor alignment problem is it a common problem to sony dslr camera/ digital camera only? are others camera/dlsr from other brand lyk canon or nikon also hav this problem?
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the seller not willing to move his 85Z price T.T rm3.8k, 2 years old lens......hmmm might as well add rm200 goto unker chin get newer one.....
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QUOTE(porkchop @ Sep 11 2011, 02:28 AM)
the seller not willing to move his 85Z price T.T  rm3.8k, 2 years old lens......hmmm might as well add rm200 goto unker chin get newer one.....
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zicron, MF very hard one la. Its very different. of coz, u get what u pay for la


Added on September 11, 2011, 3:12 amor porkchop u wan buy my 85mm for rm3300? Then i top up buy the Z

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QUOTE(albnok @ Sep 11 2011, 01:37 AM)
jimlim007: That 8GB Memory Stick Pro-HG Duo HX has 200x or 30MB/s read, 100x or 15MB/s write card. Coincidentally, I just bought a 16GB Sandisk Extreme Pro SDHC UHS-I rated at 300x 45MB/s read and write speeds for RM250 at Low Yat Plaza.

http://www.dpreview.com/news/1005/10051303...tickhx30mbs.asp

Hmmm good question! What if the A77 was in Video mode and we pressed the remote shutter?

NutZ748: Nice #2 and #3!

Codyx: Could be better lit on the left.
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you just have raise another question (its should be able to dostill when in video recording like 600D-i use before but the STILL image might not the Max MP size), my question is can we use remote control to start /stop video record hmm.gif
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QUOTE(lwliam @ Sep 11 2011, 03:11 AM)
zicron, MF very hard one la. Its very different. of coz, u get what u pay for la


Added on September 11, 2011, 3:12 amor porkchop u wan buy my 85mm for rm3300? Then i top up buy the Z
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Zircon, MF very hard unless i got peaking mode in the viewfinder........

lwilliam, thanks for the offer but i am not really a fan of minolta color notworthy.gif did tested a few 85 minolta, the color not really my type lo... sweat.gif like the bright contrasty feel from the CZ instead wub.gif

nvmla.......save more money first, now need to get my body serviced to fix the jammed release shutter
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QUOTE(eddybeh @ Sep 11 2011, 01:14 AM)
lwliam: oh ya, missed out him.

porkchop: actually looking at the photos produce, i feel like 20mm f2.8 is on par with 16-35z leh. of coz comparing at similar focal length la. just my 2 cents la.. correct me if i miss out anything.
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Technically it should as the 20mm is a prime after all. Sharpness wise still can compare although it's a pretty old lens. you also gain the weight advantage as the Z is pretty darn heavy.

However, you are losing zoom capabilities, maybe better micro contrast and colours in the Z, SSM focusing and other stuff.

If you can live with that, by all means get the 20mm.
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QUOTE(lwliam @ Sep 11 2011, 03:11 AM)
zicron, MF very hard one la. Its very different. of coz, u get what u pay for la


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Zircon, MF very hard unless i got peaking mode in the viewfinder........

lwilliam, thanks for the offer but i am not really a fan of minolta color  notworthy.gif did tested a few 85 minolta, the color not really my type lo...  sweat.gif like the bright contrasty feel from the CZ instead wub.gif

nvmla.......save more money first, now need to get my body serviced to fix the jammed release shutter
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Is the video show that orange77, we can use display picture to define the pattern and do the next autofocus on the object that have same pattern? hmm.gif



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jimlim, one thing i've learnt is that not to judge too early, or as in your case, unless you have a hands on on the actual thing, its best to just let your opinions be neutral. If you have actually tested and doesnt fit your taste, no one can fault u, but its quite clear that you've not, and using images as your assumptions. i'd rather wait and see what suprises is in stored before saying anything. As the saying goes, its best to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
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jimlim, one thing i've learnt is that not to judge too early, or as in your case, unless you have a hands on on the actual thing, its best to just let your opinions be neutral. If you have actually tested and doesnt fit your taste, no one can fault u, but its quite clear that you've not, and using images as your assumptions. i'd  rather wait and see what suprises is in stored before saying anything. As the saying goes, its best to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
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QUOTE(jimlim007 @ Sep 11 2011, 01:00 PM)
then continue kept urself silence; didnt know someone have tail... i just sharing some youtube video at here
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you did not just share the videos...you shared your views on the camera as well... unless you copied paste it from somewhere...

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lousy lcd screen pawn by canikon, seriously, when rotated 180 on top follow the lens direction, it block by the hot shoe/internl flash



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You do aware that the camera has to be hold in the air in order to rotate the lcd screen right?


And what is the orange77 anyway? AFAIK, Sony only has Alpha77
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you did not just share the videos...you shared your views on the camera as well... unless you copied paste it from somewhere...
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its a nice machine sound, is most quite so far in sony dslr. but in the closer the view for the lcd is true when after extended upper in 180degree facing to front, its expose a downpoint of the lcd, the only way to view from front will block by the pop up internal flash or the hot shoe accessory sad.gif weird sony did not incorporate their patent in camcorder into it. dont think there will be final changes on the lcd; look like i have hurt someone 'baby' reputation, my bad sad.gif have to shut my mouth then sweat.gif


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take a moment to think about it.. main audience for the front facing lcd would be for youngsters who camwhore and having a flashgun on camera will be very heavy for that purpose, what more that flashing at that distance will sometimes cause flash over exposure. So what if it blocks partial of the screen when pop up flash is used? Yes it is not ideal, but its still very viewable from the camwhorer's POV. Pros using the a77 will be BEHIND the camera. Not in front of it.
So i beg you not to be so sensitive on this issue and be a 'baby' yourself when you get opposing idea from your own from members here. You came here and gave your idea, we're here to give ours, that's all. Why are you so worked up on it?
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lwiliam, i think the rotating lcd would be good as a "quick show" of the shot taken to the person-being-photographed/model/etc


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Porkchop, I'd rather turn the entire camera to show instead. Less moving parts, less chance of breaking. But well, that could work.

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Awwwwwwww, ain't that sweetttttt.

And I think you tuned down the right side (and a bit of the left side as well) of the 1st pic a bit too much, I can see the overhanging lamp was given a bit too much editing (vignetting)
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Self portrait you look perfectly normal, but your gf more like.. 'posing' rather than natural.
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clive, how you did that color in first pic? ive been searching this color for a long time! tongue.gif and soooo swwweeettt, bila kahwin?

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The color approach... hard to explain.. edited in both adobe raw & the photoshop..simply experiment. I give it a warm color balance.. Reduce the saturation.. Give the shadow a bit of Blue tint (which i like to do recently), save to jpeg.. edit in photoshop... Reduce contrast & saturation again.... duplicate layer and ... Softlight to layer below. Mask away shadows which is too dark to bring out more details. finally thin sharpen and final sharpen with High pass method. tongue.gif


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Wah. Do you do that to all the other photos that you have taken as well? notworthy.gif
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Wah. Do you do that to all the other photos that you have taken as well? notworthy.gif
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Added on September 11, 2011, 7:46 pmtonight will be good night shooting round and stunning moon look drool.gif too bad doesnt have a camera now sad.gif

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take a moment to think about it.. main audience for the front facing lcd would be for youngsters who camwhore and having a flashgun on camera will be very heavy for that purpose, what more that flashing at that distance will sometimes cause flash over exposure. So what if it blocks partial of the screen when pop up flash is used? Yes it is not ideal, but its still very viewable from the camwhorer's POV. Pros using the a77 will be BEHIND the camera. Not in front of it.
So i beg you not to be so sensitive on this issue and be a 'baby' yourself when you get opposing idea from your own from members here. You came here and gave your idea, we're here to give ours, that's all. Why are you so worked up on it?
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Unlikely for me to turn the LCD facing me and use it to camwhore anyways XD

Unlikely question, beside the signal bar for Steadyshot, if there is an icon blinking, what does that supposed to mean? Getting really not used to OVF liao, bad sign for wallet.
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Agree with william.

Unlikely for me to turn the LCD facing me and use it to camwhore anyways XD

Unlikely question, beside the signal bar for Steadyshot, if there is an icon blinking, what does that supposed to mean? Getting really not used to OVF liao, bad sign for wallet.
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ohh forgot that now its has the AF tracking to the object being shoot, in future to create lovely slomotion clip, should less to watch on the lcd screen already as to ensure the object in focus especially shoot in alone. AF shall work in this case , hopefully smile.gif
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i only have one comment... how geng this that the lcd is... if your LV is Slow, IT IS SLOW. can bend here and there also no use, u just missed the moment.... sorry ah, sony dont have that issue. smile.gif
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the lcd arguement is the silliest arguement ever in alpha thread... since the A55 ppl been giving funny excuse lame comment.... (wasnt it same with D5000? but ppl praise it like god)

i only have one comment... how geng this that the lcd is... if your LV is Slow, IT IS SLOW. can bend here and there also no use, u just missed the moment.... sorry ah, sony NEVER have that issue. smile.gif
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Even back in my a300, the live view is fast and so lovely rolleyes.gif

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C&C pls. tq.

and also.. wanna ask about photoshop CS3 ya. i shoot RAW, then in photoshop to retain the EXIF data, i shud click "save as..." then jpg. then ok ad rite? i use to get it like tat previously but dunno y this time don have EXIF data ad.

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C&C pls. tq.

and also.. wanna ask about photoshop CS3 ya. i shoot RAW, then in photoshop to retain the EXIF data, i shud click "save as..." then jpg. then ok ad rite? i use to get it like tat previously but dunno y this time don have EXIF data ad.
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convert from RAW to jpg should be ok, if choose retain all EXIF info n data.

photo convert from RAW to JPG can ''noise reduction'' too tongue.gif .

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popfish: tqvm.. but don get me wrong, i admit tat i'm the most noob photoshop user. XP this photo oni increased contrast, and corrected the white balance a bit. XP others are as shot.
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popfish: tqvm.. but don get me wrong, i admit tat i'm the most noob photoshop user. XP this photo oni increased contrast, and corrected the white balance a bit. XP others are as shot.
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new alpha already include Translucent Mirror tech notworthy.gif , I think not much edit from ps.

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i'm just using simple application phtoscape  tongue.gif
new alpha already include Translucent Mirror tech  notworthy.gif , I think not much edit from ps.

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Did you just found out about this piece of news?
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yap, knoe already, just  wonder  how it fully works, ( just know (fren own this spec of alpha) will anti photo blur at fast speed continuous shoot around 12fps , nice contrast & brightness.  hmm.gif )
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It will not 'anti photo blur' actually. That will depends on your shutter speed.
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You sure or not 12fps? Unless your friend have the A77  drool.gif

It will not 'anti photo blur' actually. That will depends on your shutter speed.
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hmm.gif  agree with that. but even in low light, it can be accurate the shutter speed, more performance than standard alpha device.( need test it, before can proof the truth tongue.gif, hope my friend was a77 whistling.gif  )
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I don't really get what you mean in the sentence above, but subject movement can only be stopped with a sufficiently high shutter speed. Else, a pop of flash will freeze the subject. With dimmer light, should you wish to freeze your subject, you will need to keep a high shutter speed, which in turn, you'd need to open up your aperture and risk having a shallower depth of field and/or up your ISO which would introduce more noise.

What do you mean by standard alpha device here? Aren't all Alphas by definition, standard? As opposed to a 'pimped up Alpha'? tongue.gif


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I don't really get what you mean in the sentence above, but subject movement can only be stopped with a sufficiently high shutter speed. Else, a pop of flash will freeze the subject. With dimmer light, should you wish to freeze your subject, you will need to keep a high shutter speed, which in turn, you'd need to open up your aperture and risk having a shallower depth of field and/or up your ISO which would introduce more noise.

What do you mean by standard alpha device here? Aren't all Alphas by definition, standard? As opposed to a 'pimped up Alpha'? tongue.gif
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I dont think Sony is very smart to release the A65 together with the A77 lor. Nobody would buy the A65. Even if newbie come in to this thread asking about the A65 I think everyne will suggest to top up for the A77 instead. Why did Sony launch it together?
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Because the A65 would be much cheaper than the the A77. It's like A900 vs A850 in the sensor and FPS department, not so in the body design part though. Same sensor but slower frame rates. 10fps is already very good for daily use.

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Because the A65 is would be much cheaper than the the A77. It's like A900 vs A800 in the sensor and FPS department, not so in the body design part though. Same sensor but slower frame rates. 10fps is already very good for  daily use.
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RM 400-600 means a lot to some people. For RM 400-600, you can buy a 50mm f/1.8 lens.
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Hey wha7ever, you've got the same gears as me apart from the A580.. cool
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hahahhaha yes, it'd be way better that way.... hahaha


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I tried an A77 again, this time bringing the F20AM, F43AM and F58AM flashes.

The A77 can use wireless ratio control on the F43AM and F58AM.

Amazingly, the A77 can also use wireless control on the F20AM! This was reserved for bodies without pop-up flashes, originally. In fact this is out of Sony's character to do so!

Note that the A77 was on "not final but nearly final" firmware and the menu said Version 1.0.

Now as I type this I regret not testing to see if the A77 can use CTRL2 mode on the F43AM/F58AM to trigger an off-camera F36AM/F56AM...

zstan: LOL like kena blackout. Would be nice to have flash on it so you can see the colorful candles.

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Eh? Blackout? I can see the candles just fine wor. Or is my monitor is too bright?

There were some pictures at the Canon thread whom some forummers complained it was underexposed but i see it completely ok. mellow.gif


Added on September 13, 2011, 1:34 amCan someone post an 'underexposed' photo here? icon_question.gif

Wanna check is it my monitor calibration problem.

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QUOTE(zstan @ Sep 13 2011, 01:33 AM)
Eh?  Blackout? I can see the candles just fine wor. Or is my monitor is too bright?

There were some pictures at the Canon thread whom some forummers complained it was underexposed but i see it completely ok. mellow.gif


Added on September 13, 2011, 1:34 amCan someone post an 'underexposed' photo here? icon_question.gif

Wanna check is it my monitor calibration problem.
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QUOTE(ieR @ Sep 13 2011, 12:41 AM)
Newbieeeeee: EHEM, its more then 1k diff.  blink.gif  estimate 29xx for A65 body, and 42xx for A77 body. and you ask why people buy will buy A65?
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Newbieeeeee: EHEM, its more then 1k diff.  blink.gif  estimate 29xx for A65 body, and 42xx for A77 body. and you ask why people buy will buy A65?
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im thinking of buying A77 or Nex7....but now i see the price...more like A65 and NEX7...hahaha
but what's the approx. price for N7?
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halo guys..anyone using samyang fisheye on alpha 550?...will the body detect the lens?...normally how do you cater for full manual lens like this??...need use M mode rite?..how to do metering?
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Usage of PASM are all supported. U retain full function of the camera, only thing missing is the lens setting in the exif data.

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im thinking of buying A77 or Nex7....but now i see the price...more like A65 and NEX7...hahaha
but what's the approx. price for N7?
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Nex 7 Body only is more expensive then A77! =.=

QUOTE(ahpingko @ Sep 13 2011, 08:20 AM)
halo guys..anyone using samyang fisheye on alpha 550?...will the body detect the lens?...normally how do you cater for full manual lens like this??...need use M mode rite?..how to do metering?
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ahpingko, samyang is Non Chipped, u wont see any "lens chip contact" on the lens, so the camera wouldn't even know there is a lens attached. so default setting, the camera will show "no lens attach" error when shutter is pressed. turn to M mode or enable "no lens shutter release" (or something, forgot the real 'function name') to able to shoot in A, S, P.

you can CHIP the samyang, u can order from ebay or look for CJLAI (if he still have any in stock left). the CHIP allows only "auto exposure" in A and S(but S is useless as aperture are manual). other function like AF/Aperture, are not working.

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many people doesnt know how to "estimate" or understand "price ranging for product range" here. the old rumor (spelled R U M O R) of USD1k(rm3k) is the silliest rumor... where i keep quiet when people was so hype bout it.

the 7 series, (spelled S E V E N) are PRO series (in APS-C) in the Alpha Legacy, and the "Pro Crop", or "Crop Flagship" usually will price at the "flagship pricing" like D300s or 7D for that matter. dont tell people you can get ferrari at wira price =.= try google properly from SONY SITE for RRP. dont "predict" or grab from "rumor" and blast in forum, wiser/mature people will think how silly/childish/lazy/idiotic you are...

for you who wan touch 7 series, please prepare 4.5k myr for minimum package.

(william, zstan, LCH, i know u guys wan to like this, but sorry ini buka FB tongue.gif)
*actually i know the sony malaysia RRP but i am under NDA
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Nex 7 Body only is more expensive then A77! =.=
ahpingko, samyang is Non Chipped, u wont see any "lens chip contact" on the lens, so the camera wouldn't even know there is a lens attached. so default setting, the camera will show "no lens attach" error when shutter is pressed. turn to M mode or enable "no lens shutter release" (or something, forgot the real 'function name') to able to shoot in A, S, P.

you can CHIP the samyang, u can order from ebay or look for CJLAI (if he still have any in stock left). the CHIP allows only "auto exposure" in A and S(but S is useless as aperture are manual). other function like AF/Aperture, are not working.

=====================================================

many people doesnt know how to "estimate" or understand "price ranging for product range" here. the old rumor (spelled R U M O R) of USD1k(rm3k) is the silliest rumor... where i keep quiet when people was so hype bout it.

the 7 series, (spelled S E V E N) are PRO series (in APS-C) in the Alpha Legacy, and the "Pro Crop", or "Crop Flagship" usually will price at the "flagship pricing" like D300s or 7D for that matter. dont tell people you can get ferrari at wira price =.= try google properly from SONY SITE for RRP. dont "predict" or grab from "rumor" and blast in forum, wiser/mature people will think how silly/childish/lazy/idiotic you are...

for you who wan touch 7 series, please prepare 4.5k myr for minimum package.

(william, zstan, LCH, i know u guys wan to like this, but sorry ini buka FB tongue.gif)
*actually i know the sony malaysia RRP but i am under NDA
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wa...will prompt error say no lens attached?..alpha 550 can work without lens?..i don rmb i saw any function to compensate that no lens thing.....meaning samyang cant work in my a550?..anyone can confirm?..coz i am going to get the samyang...

paging for mr.cjlai.... laugh.gif laugh.gif
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Got the function to use in A S...., sure can use in M... I using chipless lens too on A550 and a300


Added on September 13, 2011, 10:13 amFor 1k fisheye lens, and the amount of knowledge you going to learn from it, its priceless. Don't worry bout can use or not, better you prepare to level up your skill with that lens!

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Your camera can trigger the shutter even you do not put a lens on it. You just have to enable the 'release w/out lens' option somewhere in your menu. Dig around. It's as though you are using an unchipped M42 adapter. As you would already know by now, manual aperture and focus only. Usually, A-mode works best.
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QUOTE(albnok @ Sep 13 2011, 01:25 AM)
I tried an A77 again, this time bringing the F20AM, F43AM and F58AM flashes.

The A77 can use wireless ratio control on the F43AM and F58AM.

Amazingly, the A77 can also use wireless control on the F20AM! This was reserved for bodies without pop-up flashes, originally. In fact this is out of Sony's character to do so!

Note that the A77 was on "not final but nearly final" firmware and the menu said Version 1.0.

Now as I type this I regret not testing to see if the A77 can use CTRL2 mode on the F43AM/F58AM to trigger an off-camera F36AM/F56AM...

zstan: LOL like kena blackout. Would be nice to have flash on it so you can see the colorful candles.

mastering89: Y U NO MEOW?
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Albert, a rather silly question.

When taking video, can the A77 snap a picture without blackout at the EVF/LCD?

QUOTE(NutZ748 @ Sep 13 2011, 08:07 AM)
im thinking of buying A77 or Nex7....but now i see the price...more like A65 and NEX7...hahaha
but what's the approx. price for N7?
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N7 will cost way more than A77 LOL. You too rich liao.

Might as well look at A65 or Nex5n only for your budget.

QUOTE(ieR @ Sep 13 2011, 09:48 AM)
Nex 7 Body only is more expensive then A77! =.=
ahpingko, samyang is Non Chipped, u wont see any "lens chip contact" on the lens, so the camera wouldn't even know there is a lens attached. so default setting, the camera will show "no lens attach" error when shutter is pressed. turn to M mode or enable "no lens shutter release" (or something, forgot the real 'function name') to able to shoot in A, S, P.

you can CHIP the samyang, u can order from ebay or look for CJLAI (if he still have any in stock left). the CHIP allows only "auto exposure" in A and S(but S is useless as aperture are manual). other function like AF/Aperture, are not working.

=====================================================

many people doesnt know how to "estimate" or understand "price ranging for product range" here. the old rumor (spelled R U M O R) of USD1k(rm3k) is the silliest rumor... where i keep quiet when people was so hype bout it.

the 7 series, (spelled S E V E N) are PRO series (in APS-C) in the Alpha Legacy, and the "Pro Crop", or "Crop Flagship" usually will price at the "flagship pricing" like D300s or 7D for that matter. dont tell people you can get ferrari at wira price =.= try google properly from SONY SITE for RRP. dont "predict" or grab from "rumor" and blast in forum, wiser/mature people will think how silly/childish/lazy/idiotic you are...

for you who wan touch 7 series, please prepare 4.5k myr for minimum package.

(william, zstan, LCH, i know u guys wan to like this, but sorry ini buka FB tongue.gif)
*actually i know the sony malaysia RRP but i am under NDA
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Everyone knows that A77 will not come cheap, especially for those old A700 users. But if the price justify the quality, which usually does, then why bother making noise its around 4.5k? When A700 is released, the price also quite high LOL.

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well the price for the A77 body according to sketchy details received from dealers now is around RM 41xx to RM 42xx. Whereas kit with 16-50 SSM will go to around RM 61xx to RM 62xx. But all this tend to change becoz Sony is keeping the details close to his heart. Got to wait for special announcement during KLPF 2011. rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif

pork-chop : if you looking for 85mm u can try Samyang 85mm but it is manual lens. I tryout the 35mm f1.4 and 8mm fish-eyes and it is really killing you softly! shocking.gif shocking.gif


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QUOTE(EvanKeat @ Sep 13 2011, 10:50 AM)
cherrio! aplhanian!

well the price for the A77 body according to sketchy details received from dealers now is around RM 41xx to RM 42xx. Whereas kit with 16-50 SSM will go to around RM 61xx to RM 62xx. But all this tend to change becoz Sony is keeping the details close to his heart. Got to wait for special announcement during KLPF 2011. rolleyes.gif  rolleyes.gif

pork-chop : if you looking for 85mm u can try Samyang 85mm but it is manual lens. I tryout the 35mm f1.4 and 8mm fish-eyes and it is really killing you softly! shocking.gif  shocking.gif
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I already got an approximation of the price, just waiting for Sony nia.

After RRP will be higher than street pricing and alot of factors can influence price, so I rather play my cards close and wait.
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zstan: It's not black but it's obviously in shadow. I guess I'd prefer colorful candles.

ahpingko:

On the A100, A33, A35, A55, A560, A580, A77, A700, A850, A900, there is an option called "Release shutter without lens". When you set that to ON then you can use an unchipped lens in PASM modes.

On the A200, A230, A290, A300, A330, A350, A380, A290, A450, A500, A550 you need to change to M mode to shoot. There is no option in the menu.

The A850/A900 firmware version 2.0 adds support for "Release shutter without lens" - before this, you'd have to use it in M mode too.

chiahau: Not as far as I know - when recording, pressing the shutter just re-focuses.

The A700 came out at a retail price of RM5499. So as far as it is, it seems the A77 is far cheaper.
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zstan: It's not black but it's obviously in shadow. I guess I'd prefer colorful candles.

ahpingko:

On the A100, A33, A35, A55, A560, A580, A77, A700, A850, A900, there is an option called "Release shutter without lens". When you set that to ON then you can use an unchipped lens in PASM modes.

On the A200, A230, A290, A300, A330, A350, A380, A290, A450, A500, A550 you need to change to M mode to shoot. There is no option in the menu.

The A850/A900 firmware version 2.0 adds support for "Release shutter without lens" - before this, you'd have to use it in M mode too.

chiahau: Not as far as I know - when recording, pressing the shutter just re-focuses.

The A700 came out at a retail price of RM5499. So as far as it is, it seems the A77 is far cheaper.
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Chiahau, what interest rate are we looking at 1st?

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get an Nex-5N togetherlor... then can take pictures or interchange to take video!  thumbup.gif
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Shall see, but likely 77's my choice of poison tongue.gif

QUOTE(lwliam @ Sep 13 2011, 11:34 AM)
Chiahau, what interest rate are we looking at 1st?
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Around 3.5% ?


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QUOTE(chiahau @ Sep 13 2011, 11:39 AM)

Around 3.5% ?
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Where got so low interest...now PA is going around BLR+ 2 at less.

No ppl wan to get a nex-7?? I think I'll go for nex instead of A77...
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Where got so low interest...now PA is going around BLR+ 2 at less.

No ppl wan to get a nex-7?? I think I'll go for nex instead of A77...
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william: FF? serious? cant wait? for 4k, u might grab the A77, same factor as your A700, but hell of spec, and easier to sell when A99 out.
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Sked d, u all like sharks lor. I use back my film camera better for now, the original 35mm FF
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QUOTE(lwliam @ Sep 13 2011, 02:25 PM)
Sked d, u all like sharks lor. I use back my film camera better for now, the original 35mm FF
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QUOTE(Zicron @ Sep 13 2011, 02:26 PM)
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The way I see it, I won't let go of my A700.

A700: 24-70Z
A(FF): 17-35

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A700: 17-35
A(FF): 85 1.4


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Added on September 13, 2011, 2:31 pm

The way I see it, I won't let go of my A700.

A700: 24-70Z
A(FF): 17-35

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A700: 17-35
A(FF): 85 1.4
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Got FF sure pair with 2470z ma

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QUOTE(lwliam @ Sep 13 2011, 02:30 PM)
Gouki, how u know? UGPM


Added on September 13, 2011, 2:31 pm

The way I see it, I won't let go of my A700.

A700: 24-70Z
A(FF): 17-35

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A700: 17-35
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Zstan, what u doing? U sound more like bragging than giving proper information. Why u wanna do that? :doh: later ppl butthurt then u sengaja cari pasal only. I'm trying to bridge the gap between different brand users by slowly getting to get others to share thoughts not only among themselves but as photographers in general. Ur not helping by talking like that.

Anyway I think I won't think of FF for now la. Broke... Sigh.

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Zstan, what u doing? U sound more like bragging than giving proper information. Why u wanna do that? :doh: later ppl butthurt then u sengaja cari pasal only. I'm trying to bridge the gap between different brand users by slowly getting to get others to share thoughts not only among themselves but as photographers in general. Ur not helping by talking like that.

Anyway I think I won't think of FF for now la. Broke... Sigh.
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Macro photography. Super rare to find these bugs at home. No photoshop. Only cropped. C&C please. DOF too shallow?

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Macro photography. Super rare to find these bugs at home. No photoshop. Only cropped. C&C please. DOF too shallow?

#1 -
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I also got golden fly
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fansoption : Waliao.. how you go so close one?! Mine keep on moving one wor...
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golden fly is keep moving non stop de mah smile.gif My is SP90 + Raynox haha!
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Nowonder lah! tongue.gif So big and clear. Mine @ ISO400 without flash. I just realised that macro without flash more shiok. But.. difficult.
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Nowonder lah! tongue.gif So big and clear. Mine @ ISO400 without flash.  I just realised that macro without flash more shiok. But.. difficult.
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without flash more shiok????????? How come is me without flash i die.

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without flash more shiok????????? How come is me without flash i die.
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Yours ring flash, much more lighter / steadier / smaller. Mine O-flash. Super big & bulky. One time flash all the bugs fly away. Only have one chance per bug.
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Yours ring flash, much more lighter / steadier / smaller. Mine O-flash. Super big & bulky. One time flash all the bugs fly away. Only have one chance per bug.
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zstan: It's not black but it's obviously in shadow. I guess I'd prefer colorful candles.

ahpingko:

On the A100, A33, A35, A55, A560, A580, A77, A700, A850, A900, there is an option called "Release shutter without lens". When you set that to ON then you can use an unchipped lens in PASM modes.

On the A200, A230, A290, A300, A330, A350, A380, A290, A450, A500, A550 you need to change to M mode to shoot. There is no option in the menu.

The A850/A900 firmware version 2.0 adds support for "Release shutter without lens" - before this, you'd have to use it in M mode too.

chiahau: Not as far as I know - when recording, pressing the shutter just re-focuses.

The A700 came out at a retail price of RM5499. So as far as it is, it seems the A77 is far cheaper.
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I not using ring flash, i using all macro pic using F58AM, ringflash only that one spider that all the rest i not using any ring flash haha. My ring flash only shoot 1 macro pic until now haha!.
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Eh? F58 how? Mount on camera? My F42 cannot reach wor the light.


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I'm getting a33 soon. What's the main accessories I need to buy? Budget quite tight. smile.gif
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Quite tight? The 18-55 kit lens is enough. Or if you still have spare, maybe the 50mmf/1.8? or a flash?

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Eh? F58 how? Mount on camera? My F42 cannot reach wor the light.


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Quite tight? The 18-55 kit lens is enough. Or if you still have spare, maybe the 50mmf/1.8? or a flash?
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Ya. I'm getting the 18-55 package. smile.gif izit necessary to get the lens filter? hmm.gif
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Ya. I'm getting the 18-55 package. smile.gif izit necessary to get the lens filter? hmm.gif
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Eh? F58 how? Mount on camera? My F42 cannot reach wor the light.


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Quite tight? The 18-55 kit lens is enough. Or if you still have spare, maybe the 50mmf/1.8? or a flash?
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halo guys...anyone know any shop selling samyang for sony?..most shop dont carry samyang for sony.. rclxub.gif rclxub.gif ..

btw, anyone using this lens?..

Tamron 18-200mm f/3.5-6.3 XR DI-II LD Aspherical (IF) AF Zoom Lens with Macro

Sigma Zoom Wide Angle-Telephoto 28-300mm f/3.5-6.3 DG Macro Autofocus Lens (for Sony)

thinking of using this to replace my kit lens 18-55 and as zoom lens..any review...IQ sure better than my 18-55 rite?

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halo guys...anyone know any shop selling samyang for sony?..most shop dont carry samyang for sony.. rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif ..

btw, anyone using this lens?..

Tamron 18-200mm f/3.5-6.3 XR DI-II LD Aspherical (IF) AF Zoom Lens with Macro

Sigma Zoom Wide Angle-Telephoto 28-300mm f/3.5-6.3 DG Macro Autofocus Lens (for Sony)

thinking of using this to replace my kit lens 18-55 and as zoom lens..any review...IQ sure better than my 18-55 rite?
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ahpingko : First things first. Do you really need the telephoto end? I used to have a SAL 18-250mm lens. Then I found that I seldom use the telephoto end and I am more prone to shooting wide than anything else.

So I sold off the lens and I don't miss it at all. Not even when I go travelling. If you don't need the tele end, if would be better to get the Tamron 17-50mm f2.8 which would prove more useful and give you better IQ than a super zoom.

But of course you need to really know if you need the tele end or not.
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67zai: If not for the post-processing in #2 it wouldn't be special.

shukrie: Could have eye contact? Picture lacks intensity.

Codyx: Could get a less chaotic background.

ahpingko: Try Leos Com Trading, 1st floor, Ampang Park, next to the escalator.

The Tamron 18-200mm F3.5-6.3 DiII isn't as good as the Tamron 18-250mm F3.5-6.3 DiII. There are Sony versions of the 18-200mm F3.5-6.3 DT and 18-250mm F3.5-6.3 DT. The Sony 18-250mm F3.5-6.3 DT focuses faster with less turns for screw-drive.
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ahpingko: Samyang lens! maybe cjlai has. I saw in LYN Garage Sale, some guy sell all the Samyang lens from 8mm to 85mm. U can try there.

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So I sold off the lens and I don't miss it at all. Not even when I go travelling. If you don't need the tele end, if would be better to get the Tamron 17-50mm f2.8 which would prove more useful and give you better IQ than a super zoom.


If can wait n try the new SAL1650f2.8 SSM from Sony! drool.gif drool.gif
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EvanKeat : The SAL1650f2.8 SSM would be much more pricey than the Tamron 17-50mm f2.8

The SSM designation made sure of that! If you have the budget however, then by all means. I'm sure it'll be a great walkabout lens for APS-C bodies.
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EvanKeat : The SAL1650f2.8 SSM would be much more pricey than the Tamron 17-50mm f2.8

The SSM designation made sure of that! If you have the budget however, then by all means. I'm sure it'll be a great walkabout lens for APS-C bodies.
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all the subjects taken are ramdom event coverage...tried to crop out the background as polite as i could edi blush.gif

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QUOTE(shootkk @ Sep 14 2011, 12:56 PM)
EvanKeat : The SAL1650f2.8 SSM would be much more pricey than the Tamron 17-50mm f2.8

The SSM designation made sure of that! If you have the budget however, then by all means. I'm sure it'll be a great walkabout lens for APS-C bodies.
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I think it would be price around RM 2k-2.5k comparing the MRSP between the body and the kit lens. Not sure how much the Tamron 17-50mm. But solid weather / rain / ice proof and silent / fast motor brows.gif brows.gif


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Check out Sony Style Malaysia website, the first page. Special surprise tomorrow smile.gif
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67zai: If not for the post-processing in #2 it wouldn't be special
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does anyone know the 2nd hand price for sony flash f43?
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Check out Sony Style Malaysia website, the first page. Special surprise tomorrow smile.gif
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Special Price announcement of A77, A65, NEX-7 and NEX-5N hmm.gif hmm.gif

Anyway someone has just listed the price for NEX-5N

NEX-5N + 18-55mm (NEX-5N K) RM 2599
NEX-5N + 18-55mm and 16mm (NEX-5N D) RM 2999

Everyone get ready cash, credit card and whatever!! drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif

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If I use the 16-50 ssm on my a850 then weather proof also ma
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why big² telephoto lenses expensive?
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QUOTE(Ranceed @ Sep 14 2011, 10:59 AM)
ahpingko : Try to consider Tamron 18-270mm. It highly rated. But never know alpha user using this one.

Never buy Sigma 28-300mm( i used to own one). The softest travel lens, colour is dull, weird zoom rotation and prone to gear strip.
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i saw the review for 28-300..looked not so good..hahhaa..that 18-270 over my budget already..

QUOTE(shootkk @ Sep 14 2011, 11:28 AM)
ahpingko : First things first. Do you really need the telephoto end? I used to have a SAL 18-250mm lens. Then I found that I seldom use the telephoto end and I am more prone to shooting wide than anything else.

So I sold off the lens and I don't miss it at all. Not even when I go travelling. If you don't need the tele end, if would be better to get the Tamron 17-50mm f2.8 which would prove more useful and give you better IQ than a super zoom.

But of course you need to really know if you need the tele end or not.
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i don need telephoto end actually..hehe...17-50 seemed to be more suitable..

QUOTE(albnok @ Sep 14 2011, 11:39 AM)
67zai: If not for the post-processing in #2 it wouldn't be special.

shukrie: Could have eye contact? Picture lacks intensity.

Codyx: Could get a less chaotic background.

ahpingko: Try Leos Com Trading, 1st floor, Ampang Park, next to the escalator.

The Tamron 18-200mm F3.5-6.3 DiII isn't as good as the Tamron 18-250mm F3.5-6.3 DiII. There are Sony versions of the 18-200mm F3.5-6.3 DT and 18-250mm F3.5-6.3 DT. The Sony 18-250mm F3.5-6.3 DT focuses faster with less turns for screw-drive.
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do you know the boss??...or the price of samyang 8mm there??

QUOTE(EvanKeat @ Sep 14 2011, 11:48 AM)
ahpingko: Samyang lens! maybe cjlai has. I saw in LYN Garage Sale, some guy sell all the Samyang lens from 8mm to 85mm. U can try there.
If can wait n try the new SAL1650f2.8 SSM from Sony!  drool.gif  drool.gif
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I WAN 850~!!!!!!! T.T
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Wah William u talk ayam jantan aaa..
The 1650kit is priced at rm6.3k ^^"

So.. ^^"
Budget.. Aiyah.. Lari budget..
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So expensive ka? Really nees to see for own eyes only can justify whether worth getting or not.
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A77 with RSP RM4299

don't how much will cost, promotion price!
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QUOTE(freddy manson @ Sep 15 2011, 06:33 AM)
Wah William u talk ayam jantan aaa..
The 1650kit is priced at rm6.3k ^^"

So.. ^^"
Budget.. Aiyah.. Lari budget..
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Later I wait till CNY, price likely to be lowered liao XD
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Sony Malaysia having limited promotion.
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hi all...newbie here...really2 new (FIRST post new!)..

need some pro opinion...

im currently using my a390..planning to get new one..
b4 this, i was thinking of a580..bcos now, there's a77 and a65 come to mess up my plan...
im willing to spend up to 4k...any advice??? really screwed right now rclxub.gif..huhu
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QUOTE(acheh90 @ Sep 15 2011, 04:38 PM)
hi all...newbie here...really2 new (FIRST post new!)..

need some pro opinion...

im currently using my a390..planning to get new one..
b4 this, i was thinking of a580..bcos now, there's a77 and a65 come to mess up my plan...
im willing to spend up to 4k...any advice??? really screwed right now  rclxub.gif..huhu
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Wah.. 4k?! A77!!
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heheh...been sving for almost 2 year now ..hehehe
interested in A77 oso...but a bit over my budget...huhu
hope to not exceed 4K..

wandering why the promotional price for A77 and A65 very2 big??
are those two very different??? hmm.gif
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a65 at 2999SRP looks sweet!


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QUOTE(acheh90 @ Sep 15 2011, 05:53 PM)
heheh...been sving for almost 2 year now ..hehehe
interested in A77 oso...but a bit over my budget...huhu
hope to not exceed 4K..

wandering why the promotional price for A77 and A65 very2 big??
are those two very different??? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(electron @ Sep 15 2011, 05:56 PM)
a65 at 2999SRP looks sweet!


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a77 body only street price should be below 4k
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yeap!! A65 at 2999!! almost click buy now right away, then remembered didnt hve any creditcard or maybank2u..huhu


if can get A77 below 4K, no more headache...

what about A580?? no good?? i still considered a580 cause i kinda prefer optic viewfinder..what u guys think??
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QUOTE(acheh90 @ Sep 15 2011, 05:53 PM)
heheh...been sving for almost 2 year now ..hehehe
interested in A77 oso...but a bit over my budget...huhu
hope to not exceed 4K..

wandering why the promotional price for A77 and A65 very2 big??
are those two very different??? hmm.gif
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i see...no wonder the price very2 far...tq liam..

how about A580 vs A65?? which would be better?? oh, just fyi, i used my cam mostly for indoor events at my uni..
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about time lwliam, i looking for that comparison..
but why ler a65 no vg..

i'm thinking how ler to utilize those features...
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i see...no wonder the price very2 far...tq liam..

how about A580 vs A65?? which would be better?? oh, just fyi, i used my cam mostly for indoor events at my uni..
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QUOTE(Newbieeeeee @ Sep 15 2011, 07:28 PM)
Indoor, not sure bout the a65 / a77 noise performance, but the a580's, mamamia. Unless you're planning to get a flash then it doesnt really matter.
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yup2 read many times about NR in a580 n nvr get bored of it..that's why a580 is my first choice b4...huhu
what about the optical n electronic VF?? is the feel will be very2 different??
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QUOTE(acheh90 @ Sep 15 2011, 11:29 PM)
yup2 read many times about NR in a580 n nvr get bored of it..that's why a580 is my first choice b4...huhu
what about the optical n electronic VF?? is the feel will be very2 different??
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Used to hate EVF but tried the a55, not that bad afterall. the a77 is believed to have a OLED EVF, has no lag and heard its great.

With the new EVF, it'll be just like OVF. EVF you get 100% coverage, and its much much brighter than OVF. It's pretty nice to use. I seriously wouldn't mind switching to EVF.

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Used to hate EVF but tried the a55, not that bad afterall. the a77 is believed to have a OLED EVF, has no lag and heard its great.

With the new EVF, it'll be just like OVF. EVF you get 100% coverage, and its much much brighter than OVF. It's pretty nice to use. I seriously wouldn't mind switching to EVF.
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already read about the OLED EVF too...sounds great!
one of my fren been using a55..he like the evf bcos what u see is how the photo will come out...
well, with that, just left on how the noise in a65/a77..huhu
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QUOTE(acheh90 @ Sep 16 2011, 12:00 AM)
already read about the OLED EVF too...sounds great!
one of my fren been using a55..he like the evf bcos what u see is how the photo will come out...
well, with that, just left on how the noise in a65/a77..huhu
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Get it, use it and then only judge =.=
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Anyway, friend wanna get a 60D, and thought of waiting till a65 comes out to decide.

Mainly, prefers a bigger gripped camera. But how about the technical part of the camera? Are they sort of on par besides the size?
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QUOTE(acheh90 @ Sep 16 2011, 12:00 AM)
already read about the OLED EVF too...sounds great!
one of my fren been using a55..he like the evf bcos what u see is how the photo will come out...
well, with that, just left on how the noise in a65/a77..huhu
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holy crap, check out the paint work! I wish I can do that to mine...

Do u have a pic of Ultimate OP shown in the above pic, bottom left?

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well, true wat. nexus later lar. new nexus is by samsung oso. u dont like touchwiz wat. so buy the a77 and sell the a580 cheap cheap to me or zstan. whistling.gif
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fansoption: Tiny flower could be clearer.

ieR: Wishes may come true!

shootkk: Could have some localized brightening on Optimus.

popfish: Something about the lane at the bottom-right that isn't cropped right. Otherwise I like the relative straight-ness of the picture.

Newbieeeeee: Most shots could do with a better background.

Gouki: The Nexus series not supposed to have any skins what. So no Touchwiz - heck the Google Nexus S is pure Android.
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QUOTE(albnok @ Sep 16 2011, 05:31 PM)
fansoption: Tiny flower could be clearer.

ieR: Wishes may come true!

shootkk: Could have some localized brightening on Optimus.

popfish: Something about the lane at the bottom-right that isn't cropped right. Otherwise I like the relative straight-ness of the picture.

Newbieeeeee: Most shots could do with a better background.

Gouki: The Nexus series not supposed to have any skins what. So no
Touchwiz - heck the Google Nexus S is pure Android.
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I always think about the focus only. Haha. Never thought of the background before. Will cropping help? Some of the pictures are not cropped. Thanks!

Guys, how do you all watermark your pictures? Which software do you use?

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Your #4& #5 me also got.
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Newbieeeeee : I like your macro pic #2 & #4. #1 composition but the background i dun like.

Your #4& #5 me also got.
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Woi. Dont post pic together with mine lah! Mine like nothing already. vmad.gif

Thanks btw. smile.gif

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I always think about the focus only. Haha. Never thought of the background before. Will cropping help? Some of the pictures are not cropped. Thanks!

Guys, how do you all watermark your pictures? Which software do you use?
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photoscape will help too... hmm.gif

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popfish: Something about the lane at the bottom-right that isn't cropped right. Otherwise I like the relative straight-ness of the picture.


Gouki: The Nexus series not supposed to have any skins what. So no Touchwiz - heck the Google Nexus S is pure Android.
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thanks notworthy.gif , ha,, my photo 100% no crop, next time will check n crop nod.gif

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Woi. Dont post pic together with mine lah! Mine like nothing already. vmad.gif

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Your pictures put next to mine then mine doesn't look like macro already. sad.gif


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Thanks btw. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Gouki @ Sep 16 2011, 04:44 PM)
well, true wat. nexus later lar. new nexus is by samsung oso. u dont like touchwiz wat. so buy the a77 and sell the a580 cheap cheap to me or zstan. whistling.gif
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New Nexus is empty one leh. Vanilla interface, no touchwiz la dry.gif

Sell 2 you? Kenot la. Student where can sell 2 sifu gears? Sifu look me no up de XD

QUOTE(albnok @ Sep 16 2011, 05:31 PM)
fansoption: Tiny flower could be clearer.

ieR: Wishes may come true!

shootkk: Could have some localized brightening on Optimus.

popfish: Something about the lane at the bottom-right that isn't cropped right. Otherwise I like the relative straight-ness of the picture.

Newbieeeeee: Most shots could do with a better background.

Gouki: The Nexus series not supposed to have any skins what. So no Touchwiz - heck the Google Nexus S is pure Android.
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I'm pretty weak when it comes to street photography. So would appreciate if you guys can give me some heads-up / pointers to improve. Share share your views and comments please yeah. icon_question.gif
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