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post Jun 10 2011, 09:00 AM, updated 15y ago

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PROTON SAGA BLM & FL CLUB V13


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Service parts and estimated price

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2nd!!! 3rd!!!!!???? rclxub.gif Reporting IN!!!! rclxm9.gif thumbup.gif

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Reporting in!

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IAFM fixed.

Gear spring also fixed.

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post Jun 10 2011, 09:15 AM

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New thread. Nice. smile.gif
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post Jun 10 2011, 09:20 AM

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anybody with he 1.6 model ?

hows the fc ?
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post Jun 10 2011, 09:25 AM

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@monster2020
So far nobody with the Saga FL 1.6 has signed up here yet, so we can't be sure about the FC.

However, some here have transplanted their old Saga with a 1.6l engine. I think xshiro has. You can check with him.

But his is manual. You can also check the 1.6 limited red editions, but those are manual as well.

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post Jun 10 2011, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(omara86 @ Jun 10 2011, 09:25 AM)
last weekend...

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Later tonight another UOTT

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post Jun 10 2011, 09:30 AM

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Later tonight another UOTT

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not another UOTT far far away from mah place... cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
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lol .. so many TT sessions.

@omara86,
Nice pic there. Who got married?

And your avatar makes me reek of jealousy. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Jun 10 2011, 09:27 AM)
Did I make the first page?!?!?!?! tongue.gif

@monster2020
So far nobody with the Saga FL 1.6 has signed up here yet, so we can't be sure about the FC.

However, some here have transplanted their old Saga with a 1.6l engine. I think xshiro has. You can check with him.

But his is manual. You can also check the 1.6 limited red editions, but those are manual as well.
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thanks...

the 1.6 is the same engine as the persona right ?


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QUOTE(monster2020 @ Jun 10 2011, 09:20 AM)
anybody with he 1.6 model ?

hows the fc ?
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i dont really check the fc nowadays, but i have the impression that it is more or less the same.

but i rarely drive hard nowadays.
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post Jun 10 2011, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(omara86 @ Jun 10 2011, 09:30 AM)
not another UOTT far far away from mah place...  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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some 20+ cars expected~

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lol .. so many TT sessions.

@omara86,
Nice pic there. Who got married?

And your avatar makes me reek of jealousy. laugh.gif
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a friend of 1 of blmclub.co.cc member.. he use FL as kereta pengantin, so alang2 invite few blmclub member to join his convoy..
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QUOTE(monster2020 @ Jun 10 2011, 09:32 AM)
thanks...

the 1.6 is the same engine as the persona right ?
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yup same engine but maybe different tuning. i guess, for the 1.6L fl they use the same tuning as persona.
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 10 2011, 09:08 AM)
Reporting in!

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IAFM fixed.

Gear spring also fixed.

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Good4yu, eric! thumbup.gif
Onli hope my IAFM not kacau...so many years of experience liao & Proton shld hv overcome that "simple" prob, rite?

Ok...me also reporting in...!! rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(zeone @ Jun 10 2011, 09:47 AM)
Good4yu, eric! thumbup.gif
Onli hope my IAFM not kacau...so many years of experience liao & Proton shld hv overcome that "simple" prob, rite?

Ok...me also reporting in...!! rclxms.gif
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Post 2009 models should not have the IAFM problem already. Mine's March 2009, so there is a chance that parts from the 2008 parts bin were used, and hence the failure.

Hmm, I did read somewhere, to prevent the IAFM from spoiling, the engine should not be revved more than 4500rpm. I was like blink.gif doh.gif

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QUOTE(omara86 @ Jun 10 2011, 09:34 AM)
a friend of 1 of blmclub.co.cc member.. he use FL as kereta pengantin, so alang2 invite few blmclub member to join his convoy..
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Nice. My friends tried that once. We had a whole bunch of Vios and it looked nice, until one of my friends came with, I forgotten if it was a BMW or Fiat Coupe. Then everyone tak syiok edi. laugh.gif

QUOTE(xshiro @ Jun 10 2011, 09:38 AM)
yup same engine but maybe different tuning. i guess, for the 1.6L fl they use the same tuning as persona.
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Are you sure you don't rev hard anymore? brows.gif

Yeah engine is the same. The only thing we're not sure is if the gear ratios are the same and, even if they are the same, how they match up with the smaller 14 inch tires.


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Post 2009 models should not have the IAFM problem already. Mine's March 2009, so there is a chance that parts from the 2008 parts bin were used, and hence the failure.

Hmm, I did read somewhere, to prevent the IAFM from spoiling, the engine should not be revved more than 4500rpm. I was like blink.gif doh.gif

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Eric, congratz on fixing your problems!! rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

All engine oils are can be used on our cars as long as they meet the correct viscosity ratings. The only issue is that some BLM members have complained of loud tappet noise after using fully synthetic oil. Personally, I just started using fully synthetic on my 10000km service. I don't know what a tappet noise is, but I'll be looking out for any abnormal noises.

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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Jun 10 2011, 09:52 AM)
Eric, congratz on fixing your problems!!  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif

All engine oils are can be used on our cars as long as they meet the correct viscosity ratings. The only issue is that some BLM members have complained of loud tappet noise after using fully synthetic oil. Personally, I just started using fully synthetic on my 10000km service. I don't know what a tappet noise is, but I'll be looking out for any abnormal noises.
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Here's an example of the said tappet noise. Something like diesel engine. lol



Now that mine's fixed, it sound like new. brows.gif
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OMG... just saw 1 Saga BLM in my taman with a wheel detach from it body while it turn... the wheel come off together with it driveshalf, brake etc.. think should be the drive shalf detached... sweat.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 10 2011, 10:21 AM)
OMG...  just saw 1 Saga BLM in my taman with a wheel detach from it body while it turn...  the wheel come off together with it driveshalf, brake etc..  think should be the drive shalf detached...  sweat.gif sweat.gif
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Hmm, the first batch was well known with rust around the drive shaft, but reaching the stage where it detaches? First time I've heard of this.
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 10 2011, 10:25 AM)
Hmm, the first batch was well known with rust around the drive shaft, but reaching the stage where it detaches? First time I've heard of this.
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I pass by.. didn't go n geh poh look around... just see the entire rim are out with all the brake, drive shalf.. and something still attached the wheel... sweat.gif

if this happen in fast cornering... sweat.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 10 2011, 10:29 AM)
I pass by..  didn't go n geh poh look around...  just see the entire rim are out with all the brake, drive shalf..  and something still attached the wheel...  sweat.gif

if this happen in fast cornering... sweat.gif sweat.gif
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*touch wood*

So far mine, lower arm/absorber making noise. Next week do appointment check.

Hopefully can be done under warranty.
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 10 2011, 10:25 AM)
Hmm, the first batch was well known with rust around the drive shaft, but reaching the stage where it detaches? First time I've heard of this.
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Is the rust caused by the air cond water hose being too short? blink.gif I read about that somewhere some time ago.

Gear spring fixed under warranty? Great, I'm gonna get mine fixed too. Hopefully they can raise the accelerator pedal too brows.gif
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QUOTE(lhwj @ Jun 10 2011, 10:39 AM)
Is the rust caused by the air cond water hose being too short? blink.gif I read about that somewhere some time ago.

Gear spring fixed under warranty? Great, I'm gonna get mine fixed too. Hopefully they can raise the accelerator pedal too brows.gif
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Ahh, that.

Gear spring + IAFM under warranty. Dont delay yo

The almost new-car like feeling is great
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 10 2011, 10:40 AM)
Ahh, that.

Gear spring + IAFM under warranty. Dont delay yo

The almost new-car like feeling is great
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Okay, whatever you say rclxms.gif
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hello there.

want to ask about TB service.
any recommended shop with good price in klang valley.
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hello there.

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any recommended shop with good price in klang valley.
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Throttle body?
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Anyone from lolyat joining the UOTT later?
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where? serdang ?
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where? serdang ?
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 10 2011, 10:32 AM)
*touch wood*

So far mine, lower arm/absorber making noise. Next week do appointment check.

Hopefully can be done under warranty.
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haha.. scared dy.. faster take go check o.. dun later have to spend more..
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last night I'm cruising about 100kmh and suddenly engine light turn on (yellow color). no jerking and I'm able to drive it to home.

this morning, when I'm about to bring her to SC, the engine light dissappear. so, cancel plan to SC.

u guys able to tell what's the problem?


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changed one engine mount and gear box mount. Finally the vibration on my steering wheel has ceased. Costs of changing is as below, done by outside mechanic:-

Engine mount RM 115
Gearbox mount RM 127
Workmanship Rm 75
Total RM 317
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QUOTE(kibs @ Jun 10 2011, 02:39 PM)
changed one engine mount and gear box mount. Finally the vibration on my steering wheel has ceased. Costs of changing is as below, done by outside mechanic:-

Engine mount                  RM 115
Gearbox mount                RM 127
Workmanship                    Rm 75
Total                                RM 317
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what? BLM how many years in market??? already need to change engine mounting??? sweat.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 10 2011, 02:57 PM)
what?  BLM how many years in market???  already need to change engine mounting???  sweat.gif sweat.gif
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year half only a..... cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif but what to do...the mounting nearly died on me. It hardened and drooped my engine so had to change. According to my mechanic, Proton's engine mount uses not-so-good quality rubber thats why and can last about 3-5yrs only. No offense ya for those that beg to differ tongue.gif tongue.gif
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been asking since v12 for my name to be put in. fl exec black AT. but it was ignored several times. oh well.
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don't worry. I've asked 3 times still haven in also rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

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QUOTE(Aishinka @ Jun 9 2011, 01:41 AM)
was wondering if install HID at headlamps, then when caught by police, what happens? saman only? or?
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from v12.
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QUOTE(kibs @ Jun 10 2011, 03:20 PM)
year half only a..... cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  but what to do...the mounting nearly died on me. It hardened and drooped my engine so had to change. According to my mechanic, Proton's engine mount uses not-so-good quality rubber thats why and can last about 3-5yrs only. No offense ya for those that beg to differ  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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can last for 3-5years is ok.. but ur 1.5years.. that is not acceptable... doh.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(Aishinka @ Jun 10 2011, 04:24 PM)
been asking since v12 for my name to be put in. fl exec black AT. but it was ignored several times. oh well.
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sorry to you and kibs...i missed your post i think..later i put ok?

better you guys pm me the car spec. thanks blush.gif


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from v12.
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maybe saman or notice for inspection

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sorry to you and kibs...i missed your post i think..later i put ok?

better you guys pm me the car spec. thanks  blush.gif

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you haven't added me too sad.gif
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Kindly PM me your car specs bro. :}

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new member here, saga fl executive 1.3at blue rock

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my post from previous thread
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Guys!!

If i change the audio system, does the steering audio controls still work?

also does it void the warranty?
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Anyone wanna COD or Postage purchase with this seller above for the universal improved door rubber lining, u may find him at zero one nine-four five eight eight two two two Mr.Wong/Hornet. Seller located at Penang state, able to COD at Penang island, butterworth and nearby regions. Other than that, postage (with extra charges). CALL IN ONLY, DUN BE A CHEAPSKATE TO SMS, LOL smile.gif

Saga BLM/FL, full set RM80. Postage RM10 (if im not wrong).

Tell him that SiuYi from CARI provided you this number and hell, i dun earn 1 cent, k?
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QUOTE(SiuYi @ Jun 10 2011, 09:47 PM)

Anyone wanna COD or Postage purchase with this seller above for the universal improved door rubber lining, u may find him at zero one nine-four five eight eight two two two Mr.Wong/Hornet. Seller located at Penang state, able to COD at Penang island, butterworth and nearby regions. Other than that, postage (with extra charges). CALL IN ONLY, DUN BE A CHEAPSKATE TO SMS, LOL smile.gif

Saga BLM/FL, full set RM80. Postage RM10 (if im not wrong).

Tell him that SiuYi from CARI provided you this number and hell, i dun earn 1 cent, k?
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Where is the number SiuYi ? hahahah.

BTW i asked this on previous thread, how do you rate K&N filter compare to stock? Significant improvement or slightly only? Any comment? Worth the change?
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QUOTE(kin @ Jun 10 2011, 09:15 PM)
Where is the number SiuYi ? hahahah.

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No. is inside post contents : ... In WORDS la!
Pls read agin! rclxms.gif tongue.gif

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QUOTE(sa10 @ Jun 10 2011, 10:14 PM)
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Wat is it? Rubber lining? Not easy 2see in pics...sorry... rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(SiuYi @ Jun 10 2011, 08:47 PM)
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Anyone wanna COD or Postage purchase with this seller above for the universal improved door rubber lining, u may find him at zero one nine-four five eight eight two two two Mr.Wong/Hornet. Seller located at Penang state, able to COD at Penang island, butterworth and nearby regions. Other than that, postage (with extra charges). CALL IN ONLY, DUN BE A CHEAPSKATE TO SMS, LOL smile.gif

Saga BLM/FL, full set RM80. Postage RM10 (if im not wrong).

Tell him that SiuYi from CARI provided you this number and hell, i dun earn 1 cent, k?
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this works together with out OEM rubber already pre-installed?
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lazy guy, din even plan to read my replies.bang u.LOL.

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there's a reason i write it in words, so please edit the previous reply u made in numbers.

kibs
replace.
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Hi guys, just bought saga FL recently. Not even 1 month, got problem edi. The audio player can't read disc and usb not working huhuh. rclxms.gif
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Hahaha.. i really missed it, internet reading is bad... makes ppl skips words...
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QUOTE(xshiro @ Jun 10 2011, 10:59 AM)
Throttle body?
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Yup, throttle body.
Any recomended shop bro?
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QUOTE(SiuYi @ Jun 10 2011, 11:39 PM)
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lazy guy, din even plan to read my replies.bang u.LOL.

zeone
there's a reason i write it in words, so please edit the previous reply u made in numbers.

kibs
replace.
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hmm..i asked cause from the picture, the door still has the rubber and he puts his rubber on the body not the door.... blink.gif blink.gif
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 10 2011, 09:08 AM)
Reporting in!

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IAFM fixed.

Gear spring also fixed.

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so bro your problem was not tappet lah..... smile.gif
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Anyone wanna COD or Postage purchase with this seller above for the universal improved door rubber lining, u may find him at zero one nine-four five eight eight two two two Mr.Wong/Hornet. Seller located at Penang state, able to COD at Penang island, butterworth and nearby regions. Other than that, postage (with extra charges). CALL IN ONLY, DUN BE A CHEAPSKATE TO SMS, LOL smile.gif

Saga BLM/FL, full set RM80. Postage RM10 (if im not wrong).

Tell him that SiuYi from CARI provided you this number and hell, i dun earn 1 cent, k?
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QUOTE(SiuYi @ Jun 10 2011, 11:39 PM)
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lazy guy, din even plan to read my replies.bang u.LOL.

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there's a reason i write it in words, so please edit the previous reply u made in numbers.

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No worries... Edited liao...
Sincere apologies...was only trying 2help... tongue.gif
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post Jun 11 2011, 09:48 AM

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Hi everyone, newbi here with the saga fl 1.6
I just got my saga fl 1.6 yesterday evening.

The car is good and powerful. Pick up was good compare to the 1.3.
For FC, i still need time to check on it.
Got a question here, is it the auto gear knob have no light?
I understand that all auto gear knob display got light when u switch on the car light. Enlighten me or mine is malfunction.
Thanks.
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QUOTE(jo3y30 @ Jun 11 2011, 09:48 AM)
Hi everyone, newbi here with the saga fl 1.6
I just got my saga fl 1.6 yesterday evening.

The car is good and powerful. Pick up was good compare to the 1.3.
For FC, i still need time to check on it.
Got a question here, is it the auto gear knob have no light?
I understand that all auto gear knob display got light when u switch on the car light. Enlighten me or mine is malfunction.
Thanks.
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Saga no light.
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post Jun 11 2011, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Jun 11 2011, 10:08 AM)
Saga no light.
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QUOTE(jo3y30 @ Jun 11 2011, 10:19 AM)
Thanks for the info.
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The gear position is displayed on the dashboard. There's no need to look down anyway.


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QUOTE(lhwj @ Jun 11 2011, 10:31 AM)
Tragic accident involving a BLM sad.gif
The gear position is displayed on the dashboard. There's no need to look down anyway.
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well, its kind of dark down there and i thought all auto gear will have light indication.
wonder why proton didn't do that.
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post Jun 11 2011, 10:46 AM

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Morning guys, wat a hard nite last nite, while in drunken mode, still manage to reserve number in blmclub.co.cc heheheheheh.., thx siuyi, will make payment to u latet, still headache now..

Mcb the girl last nite, while i'm posting reservation post in blmclub, she play touch2 my iphone screen, kena typo few times, owez need to modify post until 1 final correct post, after that i romen her kaw2, sapa suruh gatal2 disturb me while i'm focusing, wahahahaha...
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post Jun 11 2011, 12:17 PM

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Hi bros..

One question, will adding strut bars in front and behind the car will void the car warranty? smile.gif
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QUOTE(jo3y30 @ Jun 11 2011, 10:35 AM)
well, its kind of dark down there and i thought all auto gear will have light indication.
wonder why proton didn't do that.
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not necessary, nobody would look at the gear stick to change gears while driving.

look at the meter panel will do.

QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 11 2011, 10:45 AM)
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not as good as i thought, even though your 1st bar hit 200km.
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Hi bros..

One question, will adding strut bars in front and behind the car will void the car warranty?  smile.gif
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no. mine got front strut bar

QUOTE(ch@ich@i @ Jun 11 2011, 12:21 PM)
not as good as i thought, even though your 1st bar hit 200km.
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Damn fast it goes down after that lolol
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 11 2011, 12:22 PM)
Damn fast it goes down after that lolol
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i would expect it gonna at least make it 460 to 480, but well thats consider not bad after all lol.
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 11 2011, 12:22 PM)
Damn fast it goes down after that lolol
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Maybe your gauge float is stuck, that's why it suddenly drops tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ch@ich@i @ Jun 11 2011, 12:35 PM)
i would expect it gonna at least make it 460 to 480, but well thats consider not bad after all lol.
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if 100% highway, definitely possible

QUOTE(lhwj @ Jun 11 2011, 12:45 PM)
Maybe your gauge float is stuck, that's why it suddenly drops tongue.gif
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LOL~

but i am surprised at the amount of petrol thats still inside

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post Jun 11 2011, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 11 2011, 12:59 PM)
if 100% highway, definitely possible
LOL~

but i am surprised at the amount of petrol thats still inside
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Gauge indication is juz a guide... Dun trust it too much! tongue.gif

Btw any1 installed Rear Anti-Roll Bar for BLMs/FLs? Any noticeable improvement? Pls share... cos Rear ARB (altho also 2 pt bar) is >2X cost (RM350) of Front Strut Bar! sad.gif
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QUOTE(zeone @ Jun 11 2011, 04:17 PM)
Gauge indication is juz a guide... Dun trust it too much!  tongue.gif

Btw any1 installed Rear Anti-Roll Bar for BLMs/FLs? Any noticeable improvement? Pls share... cos Rear ARB (altho also 2 pt bar) is >2X cost (RM350) of Front Strut Bar!  sad.gif
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My car installed with front strut, front lower member brace bar, and rear ARB... effect was so syiok, taking curve 140 - 150 km/h is juz a kid play, so sharp n stable... If u wanna install 1 by 1 then follow this order:

1) front upper strut
2) front lower member brace
3) rear lower ARB

#2 effect ia more significant than #3 since our rear suspension is torsion beam, which also work like ARB...
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QUOTE(zax2_z @ Jun 10 2011, 11:45 PM)
Hi guys, just bought saga FL recently. Not even 1 month, got problem edi. The audio player can't read disc and usb not working huhuh.  rclxms.gif
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are u from penang? go to clarion sc.. its in bertam lane.. for other state i not sure... if u go proton sc, they will make u sit 1 hr then tell u must go clarion, better u go direct n just tell them sc ask to come.. haha...


ericmaxman, your fc damn good. mine rm60 for 300km oni la.... mileage 1800km. whats ur mileage pls?
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QUOTE(omara86 @ Jun 11 2011, 04:28 PM)
My car installed with front strut, front lower member brace bar, and rear ARB... effect was so syiok, taking curve 140 - 150 km/h is juz a kid play, so sharp n stable... If u wanna install 1 by 1 then follow this order:

1) front upper strut
2) front lower member brace
3) rear lower ARB

#2 effect ia more significant than #3 since our rear suspension is torsion beam, which also work like ARB...
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Tks a meg for sharing yr xperience with those bars! notworthy.gif
Will follow yr advice when budget permits. icon_idea.gif

How much wld the front lower member brace cost? Easy to fit? TQ in adv.
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WORST FC EVER!!!!!!!! 8.1km/L !! cry.gif cry.gif

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PS: Auto 1.3 BLM

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QUOTE(Da_Shiang @ Jun 11 2011, 05:00 PM)
WORST FC EVER!!!!!!!! 8.1km/L !!  cry.gif  cry.gif

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lol...1 bar equal to 40KM
half of what i get...what's your mileage?..new car?
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old car.. close to 30,000 km..
might want to drop by workshop for engine oil. :S
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QUOTE(Da_Shiang @ Jun 11 2011, 05:05 PM)
old car.. close to 30,000 km..
might want to drop by workshop for engine oil. :S
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what grade of oil did u use?
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semi oil. sad.gif
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QUOTE(Da_Shiang @ Jun 11 2011, 05:16 PM)
semi oil. sad.gif
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10w-40??...15w-40??...15w-50??
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Hmm.. I couldnt remember.
What should I use for my next engine oil?
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QUOTE(Da_Shiang @ Jun 11 2011, 05:20 PM)
Hmm.. I couldnt remember.
What should I use for my next engine oil?
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10w-40 would be great
u change at SC??..or what?
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Today done a major service 20,000km
But total RM490 mad.gif

price for engine oil increase already, RM103.80

screen wash, no meaning things, but force to buy from them icon_question.gif

SP3 ATF oil (gear oil) RM154.55
why 20,000km only, need to change gear oil, as we know, 40,000km only need to change vmad.gif

Also, changed break oil and coolant


labour charge RM100 !!!!!!!! mad.gif



Haih..........proton service....WTF

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QUOTE(beyond86 @ Jun 11 2011, 05:25 PM)
Today done a major service 20,000km
But total RM490  mad.gif

price for engine oil increase already, RM103.80

screen wash, no meaning things, but force to buy from them icon_question.gif

SP3 ATF oil (gear oil) RM154.55
why 20,000km only, need to change gear oil, as we know, 40,000km only need to change  vmad.gif

Also, break oil and coolant + labour charge RM100 !!!!!!!! mad.gif

Haih..........proton service....WTF
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yes...the SC is correct la...the GB oil need to be changed every 20k...every 20k is major service
and BTW..those screen wash..u can request not to want...mine can
and what makes service at SC expensive is its labour...outside charge around RM40-50...they charge RM100 for major service
and yes....engine oil price already increase...my usual shell helix RM90, last service i buy, increase to RM101 already

i see the receipt they overcharge u 1btl/liter of GB oil...did they flush for u?...usually is 4btl/liter
until now i still dn't know what is that "element air cleaner"

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 11 2011, 06:29 PM)
yes...the SC is correct la...the GB oil need to be changed every 20k...every 20k is major service
and BTW..those screen wash..u can request not to want...mine can
and what makes service at SC expensive is its labour...outside charge around RM40-50...they charge RM100 for major service
and yes....engine oil price already increase...my usual shell helix RM90, last service i buy, increase to RM101 already

i see the receipt they overcharge u 1btl/liter of GB oil...did they flush for u?...usually is 4btl/liter
until now i still dn't know what is that "element air cleaner"
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screen wash must buy
ya....very expensive labour charge

as we know is 4liter for gear oil, but for this, i also dun know why use 5liter

element air cleaner here means air filter
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QUOTE(beyond86 @ Jun 11 2011, 05:39 PM)
screen wash must buy
ya....very expensive labour charge

as we know is 4liter for gear oil, but for this, i also dun know why use 5liter

element air cleaner here means air filter
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5 liter is worthed IF they have flush it...if not thn 4 liter is enough
the others are ok except the screen wash
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 11 2011, 06:48 PM)
5 liter is worthed IF they have flush it...if not thn 4 liter is enough
the others are ok except the screen wash
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but dun know they got flush it or not hmm.gif
got any nicer or cheaper SC recommended??


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QUOTE(beyond86 @ Jun 11 2011, 05:50 PM)
but dun know they got flush it or not hmm.gif
got any nicer or cheaper SC recommended??
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not sure on your area got or not...maybe other member can answer u
but RM100 for major service is normal charges
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 11 2011, 06:56 PM)
not sure on your area got or not...maybe other member can answer u
but RM100 for major service is normal charges
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the SC i went to is actually under Sin Siang Hin yawn.gif
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QUOTE(omara86 @ Jun 11 2011, 01:59 PM)
@eric - amacam UOTT? ada happening?
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So many cars oo~ Come KL la bro brows.gif

QUOTE(zeone @ Jun 11 2011, 04:17 PM)
Gauge indication is juz a guide... Dun trust it too much!  tongue.gif

Btw any1 installed Rear Anti-Roll Bar for BLMs/FLs? Any noticeable improvement? Pls share... cos Rear ARB (altho also 2 pt bar) is >2X cost (RM350) of Front Strut Bar!  sad.gif
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Yeah la..cannot trust too much.

QUOTE(rajivshm @ Jun 11 2011, 04:40 PM)
ericmaxman, your fc damn good. mine rm60 for 300km oni la.... mileage 1800km. whats ur mileage pls?
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My mileage, when i got the car was ~35,000km

Now touching 40,000km already
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 11 2011, 06:12 PM)
My mileage, when i got the car was ~35,000km

Now touching 40,000km already
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major service coming soon??
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 11 2011, 06:13 PM)
major service coming soon??
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Just did oil change last month @ 36,000km
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 11 2011, 06:13 PM)
Just did oil change last month @ 36,000km
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last month?...now touching 40k??...that's very fast
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 11 2011, 06:17 PM)
last month?...now touching 40k??...that's very fast
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Travel a lot ma.
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 11 2011, 06:18 PM)
Travel a lot ma.
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4k per month..u really travel alot
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 11 2011, 05:23 PM)
10w-40 would be great
u change at SC??..or what?
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I stopped going to SC already.
10w-40? Ok I will take a note of that.

but seriously auto BLM very thirsty. cry.gif
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QUOTE(Da_Shiang @ Jun 11 2011, 06:23 PM)
I stopped going to SC already.
10w-40? Ok I will take a note of that.

but seriously auto BLM very thirsty.  cry.gif
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Try 2accelerate gradually when driving auto cars...& esp so for 1.3 BLMs/FLs. This way yr fc wld b better...cos flooring yr acc pedal each time gonna cost yu in fc!
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 11 2011, 06:20 PM)
4k per month..u really travel alot
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Thats why I didnt get the Viva or Myvi

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QUOTE(zeone @ Jun 11 2011, 06:28 PM)
Try 2accelerate gradually when driving auto cars...& esp so for 1.3 BLMs/FLs. This way yr fc wld b better...cos flooring yr acc pedal each time gonna cost yu in fc!
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i suffer due to my flooring habit. cry.gif

luckily i don't travel a lot

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QUOTE(Da_Shiang @ Jun 11 2011, 06:23 PM)
I stopped going to SC already.
10w-40? Ok I will take a note of that.

but seriously auto BLM very thirsty.  cry.gif
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try 10w-40...dn't rev so high be4 change gear
2k-2.2k for normal...2.4k if u want faster
BTW mine also auto
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SynGard 6000
Semi Synthetic Engine Oil
SAE 10W-40 API SM/CF
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any comment about this lubricants for our BLM?
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QUOTE(sg999 @ Jun 11 2011, 07:48 PM)
SynGard 6000
Semi Synthetic Engine Oil
SAE 10W-40  API SM/CF
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any comment about this lubricants for our BLM?
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i think ok ...as long as it's real oil
syngrad is from BHP....i think it's not bad
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 11 2011, 09:09 PM)
i think ok ...as long as it's real oil
syngrad is from BHP....i think it's not bad
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ya
it is from bhp
got ecard can collect point and redeem fuel
haha.
but the price is more expensive than syntium 800 10W-40
SYNGRAD 10W-40RM117
SYNTIUM 800 10W-40-RM97
both also 4L hmm.gif
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QUOTE(sg999 @ Jun 11 2011, 08:23 PM)
ya
it is from bhp
got ecard can collect point and redeem fuel
haha.
but the price is more expensive than syntium 800 10W-40
SYNGRAD 10W-40RM117
SYNTIUM 800 10W-40-RM97
both also 4L hmm.gif
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did u buy it from petrol station??...if it is thn it's reasonable to be more expensive
it is more expensive if u buy it from petrol station...getting from shop is cheaper
but the advantage of getting it from petrol station is that it's guarantee original..no fake
plus...the syntium 800 SC use very suck la...at least for me...cannot even last 5k KM
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Just so you guys know, I've over-inflated my front tires to 220kpa
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 11 2011, 09:39 PM)
Just so you guys know, I've over-inflated my front tires to 220kpa
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ahhh....220kpa is normal on the front
back normal is 200
so you're not over inflated
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 11 2011, 09:56 PM)
ahhh....220kpa is normal on the front
back normal is 200
so you're not over inflated
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bro, our car is 210 front, back is 190 la.

M line btw blush.gif
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 11 2011, 09:57 PM)
bro, our car is 210 front, back is 190 la.

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oh...ya..i forgot
i've been pumping 220 front 200 rear for a long time already...i forgot
but have to pump abit more cuz when we pump it...it's not really cold
the difference between cold and hot is actually 5 PSI
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 11 2011, 10:02 PM)
oh...ya..i forgot
i've been pumping 220 front 200 rear for a long time already...i forgot
but have to pump abit more cuz when we pump it...it's not really cold
the difference between cold and hot is actually 5 PSI
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i bumped my intestines out because of my over inflated tires.

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 11 2011, 10:05 PM)
did u buy it from petrol station??...if it is thn it's reasonable to be more expensive
it is more expensive if u buy it from petrol station...getting from shop is cheaper
but the advantage of getting it from petrol station is that it's guarantee original..no fake
plus...the syntium 800 SC use very suck la...at least for me...cannot even last 5k KM
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only form petrol station can collect point and redeem fuel
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 11 2011, 10:06 PM)
i bumped my intestines out because of my over inflated tires.

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220 is not overinflated la
i think it's the road condition and your abs
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 11 2011, 10:24 PM)
220 is not overinflated la
i think it's the road condition and your abs
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lol. feels harder than usual..hahaha
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 11 2011, 10:35 PM)
lol. feels harder than usual..hahaha
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usually 210 and 220 doesn't have much different...for me
unless they pumped until 250...like those workshop like to pump..thn got difference
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 11 2011, 11:35 PM)
lol. feels harder than usual..hahaha
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pick up got faster?
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 11 2011, 10:40 PM)
usually 210 and 220 doesn't have much different...for me
unless they pumped until 250...like those workshop like to pump..thn got difference
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QUOTE(sg999 @ Jun 11 2011, 10:40 PM)
pick up got faster?
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seemingly better FC
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QUOTE(beyond86 @ Jun 11 2011, 05:25 PM)
Today done a major service 20,000km
But total RM490  mad.gif

price for engine oil increase already, RM103.80

screen wash, no meaning things, but force to buy from them icon_question.gif

SP3 ATF oil (gear oil) RM154.55
why 20,000km only, need to change gear oil, as we know, 40,000km only need to change  vmad.gif

Also, changed break oil and coolant
labour charge RM100 !!!!!!!! mad.gif
Haih..........proton service....WTF
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wow...my mechanic check d he say still ok so he didn't change the gear oil and still working fine, coolant (need meh??) top up water, was not charged for the gasket drain, spark plug at 30k km, brake fluid still ok, engine filter change d....and my labour charge was only RM15. wow...I'm so glad i dun go to SC anymore rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 11 2011, 10:45 PM)
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seemingly better FC
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it won't explode la
last time when i got my car....after a while when it seem need to pump already
my dad go pump 300 into it....his car also pump like that....i ask him who taught him pump 300...lol
didn't explode also...our tyre need 300+ only explode


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QUOTE(kibs @ Jun 11 2011, 10:48 PM)
wow...my mechanic check d he say still ok so he didn't change the gear oil and still working fine, coolant (need meh??) top up water, was not charged for the gasket drain, spark plug at 30k km, brake fluid still ok, engine filter change d....and my labour charge was only RM15. wow...I'm so glad i dun go to SC anymore  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
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GB oil...dn't play play...your GB's lifespan rely solely on how often u service it
so when it's time to change...change it...else there's gonna be more metal scrap inside
coolant...no need change but u need to topup with coolant...u need a certain good amount of coolant inside there..not water..if u topup with water...it will evaporate very quickly
service outside is good and cheap but still have to follow the list else problem will come

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 11 2011, 10:55 PM)
it won't explode la
last time when i got my car....after a while when it seem need to pump already
my dad go pump 300 into it....his car also pump like that....i ask him who taught him pump 300...lol
didn't explode also...our tyre need 300+ only explode
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 11 2011, 10:55 PM)
it won't explode la
last time when i got my car....after a while when it seem need to pump already
my dad go pump 300 into it....his car also pump like that....i ask him who taught him pump 300...lol
didn't explode also...our tyre need 300+ only explode


Added on June 11, 2011, 10:59 pm
GB oil...dn't play play...your GB's lifespan rely solely on how often u service it
so when it's time to change...change it...else there's gonna be more metal scrap inside
coolant...no need change but u need to topup with coolant...u need a certain good amount of coolant inside there..not water..if u topup with water...it will evaporate very quickly
service outside is good and cheap but still have to follow the list else problem will come
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But it's bad for the tires. Your tires may suffer uneven wear and if the tires are old enough, they might explode.

You're right about the gearbox though. I wouldn't mess about with the servicing.
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 11 2011, 10:45 PM)
seemingly better FC
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Yup, hving slightly higher tyre pressures wld help improve fc! rclxms.gif tongue.gif
Ps. It wld also similarly affect road grip esp in the wet, too. rolleyes.gif
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How come my SAGA BLM full tank of gas kenot even reach 300km in Cyberjaya roads? No aggressive driving and racing. Jz normal driving to campus and go restaurant eating and jusco buying groceries. Everytime around 280km the fuel signal lighted up already. Btw, my saga is the very first batch of BLM, izzit that the very first batch a little different? please advice.
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QUOTE(LizStephenie @ Jun 12 2011, 11:21 AM)
How come my SAGA BLM full tank of gas kenot even reach 300km in Cyberjaya roads? No aggressive driving and racing. Jz normal driving to campus and go restaurant eating and jusco buying groceries. Everytime around 280km the fuel signal lighted up already. Btw, my saga is the very first batch of BLM, izzit that the very first batch a little different? please advice.
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how much is your mileage now?
what grade of oil are u using now?
what kind of speed are u travelling usually?
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around 43k i think.
izit the oil i use in the engine? not sure coz i never choose, just let the service center change for me without asking. i go for service every 5k.
usually travel between 80-100km/h.
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QUOTE(LizStephenie @ Jun 12 2011, 11:31 AM)
around 43k i think.
izit the oil i use in the engine? not sure coz i never choose, just let the service center change for me without asking. i go for service every 5k.
usually travel between 80-100km/h.
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oh...thn u have to pay attention and choose your own oil
the ones they used are 15w-40 or 15w-40 which is thicker...good for the engine but bad for power and FC becuz u need to rev higher to get power
we recommend 10w-40 for best in between
and the best FC speed is 85KM/H when the IAFM is open and not too far off
85-100KM/H should be ok
next service try use 10w-40
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thanks for the advice.
btw, will resetting my ECU improve the fuel consumption?
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QUOTE(LizStephenie @ Jun 12 2011, 11:57 AM)
thanks for the advice.
btw, will resetting my ECU improve the fuel consumption?
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maybe...probably no...cuz it is constantly reading your driving
so it's constantly renewing
dn't rev high when u change gear...it would be fine
stay between 2k-2.4K RPM only
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ok. will try to stay between 2k-2.4k RPM and see how it goes until my next service.
but between 2k-2,4k RPM, the car just feel like no power at all... >_<
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QUOTE(LizStephenie @ Jun 12 2011, 12:03 PM)
ok. will try to stay between 2k-2.4k RPM and see how it goes until my next service.
but between 2k-2,4k RPM, the car just feel like no power at all... >_<
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of course...that's becuz your oil is heavier...
oil heavier = need to rev more
need to rev more = bad FC
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ohh, i see...
so meaning next time during my service if i change to 10w-40 oil, i'll have more power even though at between 2k-2.4k RPM?
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QUOTE(LizStephenie @ Jun 12 2011, 12:26 PM)
ohh, i see...
so meaning next time during my service if i change to 10w-40 oil, i'll have more power even though at between 2k-2.4k RPM?
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lets just say the pickup would be smoother and faster
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okay. thanks for answering my questions.


Added on June 12, 2011, 12:50 pmI just went to check the receipt of my last service.
the oil they use on my car is the 10w-40 type.
does this mean that my car have problem with the fuel consumption?


Added on June 12, 2011, 12:54 pmand, how do i bring this problem up at the service center during my next service?

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QUOTE(LizStephenie @ Jun 12 2011, 12:31 PM)
okay. thanks for answering my questions.


Added on June 12, 2011, 12:50 pmI just went to check the receipt of my last service.
the oil they use on my car is the 10w-40 type.
does this mean that my car have problem with the fuel consumption?


Added on June 12, 2011, 12:54 pmand, how do i bring this problem up at the service center during my next service?
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if they already use 10w-40...thn u really rev too high
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but every time during pickup, i only go to 3k RPM top...
never go over 3k RPM... >_<
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QUOTE(LizStephenie @ Jun 12 2011, 01:03 PM)
but every time during pickup, i only go to 3k RPM top...
never go over 3k RPM... >_<
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try 2.4k tops
and u travel mostly city or highway?
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mostly around cyberjaya. most of the roads here are very wide and kind of like highways...
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waffak 58.4km first bar dropped

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QUOTE(LizStephenie @ Jun 12 2011, 01:14 PM)
mostly around cyberjaya. most of the roads here are very wide and kind of like highways...
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am not sure abt cyberjaya...cuz never been there
i'm in east malaysia BTW


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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 12 2011, 01:24 PM)
waffak 58.4km first bar dropped

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i dn't think the 1st bar is full
mine 1st bar drops really fast as well
2nd bar drops after 120KM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 12 2011, 01:24 PM)
i dn't think the 1st bar is full
mine 1st bar drops really fast as well
2nd bar drops after 120KM
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i filled till vomit wo~

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how do i bring this matter up about the fuel consumption during my next service?
u know, in a comfortable way which the people at the service center will check for me instead of b*tching me around. this stuff does happened to me once... >_<
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Anyone of you bought your SAGA from these guys? http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1826160
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 12 2011, 02:27 PM)
i filled till vomit wo~

damn city driving doh.gif
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petrol station problem?haha
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QUOTE(LizStephenie @ Jun 12 2011, 01:29 PM)
how do i bring this matter up about the fuel consumption during my next service?
u know, in a comfortable way which the people at the service center will check for me instead of b*tching me around. this stuff does happened to me once... >_<
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i dn't know as well...u just tell them...u get bad FC lo
i think they will ask u to drive...see hw
i think is mostly rely on your right feet
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QUOTE(LizStephenie @ Jun 12 2011, 12:21 PM)
How come my SAGA BLM full tank of gas kenot even reach 300km in Cyberjaya roads? No aggressive driving and racing. Jz normal driving to campus and go restaurant eating and jusco buying groceries. Everytime around 280km the fuel signal lighted up already. Btw, my saga is the very first batch of BLM, izzit that the very first batch a little different? please advice.
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i also always travel with 80-100 at kesas highway
normal run until 380km amber light come out
mostly rev until 3000
sometime 4000(rare, but just for fun) drool.gif
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 12 2011, 01:27 PM)
i filled till vomit wo~

damn city driving doh.gif
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dn't know....i saw some member say 1st bar go furthest
but mine isn't...mine is 2nd bar goes furthest ...120KM
the the following below is 80KM each...the lowest 2 bar is 80KM 2gather

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i sometimes rev till 5k-6k rpm. last night 150km/h all the way on NKVE, first bar dropped at 60++km. 2nd bar dropped at 120km. effects of driving like an idiot. lol.
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 12 2011, 01:27 PM)
i filled till vomit wo~

damn city driving doh.gif
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MAY BE you meter/fuel pump problem?
or bcoz many ppl jealous u get damn good fc all this while... now u kena sui back... LoL


QUOTE(sg999 @ Jun 12 2011, 02:06 PM)
i also always travel with 80-100 at kesas highway
normal run until 380km amber light come out
mostly rev until 3000
sometime 4000(rare, but just for fun) drool.gif
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wats your mileage pls. i travel d same but only get 300 for full tank till vomitt kaw kaw... (vomit still sumbat until cannot).. my mileage is 1900.
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QUOTE(rajivshm @ Jun 12 2011, 03:20 PM)
MAY BE you meter/fuel pump problem?
or bcoz many ppl jealous u get damn good fc all this while... now u kena sui back... LoL
wats your mileage pls. i travel d same but only get 300 for full tank till vomitt kaw kaw... (vomit still sumbat until cannot).. my mileage is 1900.
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theres your problem
your mileage only 1900
service 2 more times until 10000KM
and your FC will improve
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 12 2011, 03:29 PM)
theres your problem
your mileage only 1900
service 2 more times until 10000KM
and your FC will improve
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wahh must wait until 10k...
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 12 2011, 12:30 PM)
lets just say the pickup would be smoother and faster
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but doind at 2-2k+ rpm wont give u much diff on pickup rite..?
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QUOTE(rajivshm @ Jun 12 2011, 03:58 PM)
wahh must wait until 10k...
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10k very fast one...my car already 70k...lol
after 3 month...5k...another 3 month...10k already
1 year is around 20k


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but doind at 2-2k+ rpm wont give u much diff on pickup rite..?
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well...with lighter oil...2-2.2k can actually mean 2.5k when using 15w-40
so lighter oil = no need to rev high also fast
if u want faster while want to maintain FC....2.4K is more than enough...at least for me
in normal start on green traffic light...2.4k is very fast for me already
some 4WD also lose to me....in my place that is...only lose to viva only...viva is pickup fast, top speed low

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QUOTE(rajivshm @ Jun 12 2011, 03:20 PM)
MAY BE you meter/fuel pump problem?
or bcoz many ppl jealous u get damn good fc all this while... now u kena sui back... LoL
wats your mileage pls. i travel d same but only get 300 for full tank till vomitt kaw kaw... (vomit still sumbat until cannot).. my mileage is 1900.
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my mileage is 5.3k. i can get a highest of 140km+ per bar. full tank about 400++. after a few services your car FC will improve.
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QUOTE(LizStephenie @ Jun 12 2011, 11:21 AM)
How come my SAGA BLM full tank of gas kenot even reach 300km in Cyberjaya roads? No aggressive driving and racing. Jz normal driving to campus and go restaurant eating and jusco buying groceries. Everytime around 280km the fuel signal lighted up already. Btw, my saga is the very first batch of BLM, izzit that the very first batch a little different? please advice.
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1) Maybe I missed it but do you drive auto or manual? Your FC looks like you drive auto.

2) If your signal lighted up precisely at 280km, you can still go maybe around 30-50 km safely, depending on traffic.

3) If you really want to measure FC, you should use the proper method to measure:-
a) Fill to full tank.
b) Reset your odometer
c) Drive like normal
d) When it's time to refill, make sure you refill to full tank.
e) Make a note of how far you travel and how much you refill. Calculate it as km/l. This is your real consumption.
f) Repeat steps b -> e

4) Do you keep your tires inflated? Make sure you repump your tires every 2 - 4 weeks.

5) Keep your revs between 2000 - 3000 RPM.

QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 12 2011, 01:24 PM)
waffak 58.4km first bar dropped

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Aiyah, you should know that measuring FC based on bars is not accurate mar.

Anyways, mine goes around 20 - 30+ km only, ok? But auto lar. laugh.gif

QUOTE(Aishinka @ Jun 12 2011, 02:31 PM)
i sometimes rev till 5k-6k rpm. last night 150km/h all the way on NKVE, first bar dropped at 60++km. 2nd bar dropped at 120km. effects of driving like an idiot. lol.
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I occasionally rev like an orang gila as well. Every once in awhile I do it just to stretch my Saga's legs a bit. lol.
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LIZ, try reset your ECU by removing the ECU fuse at your fuse box.

My friend who was driving a BLM have the same mileage as you no matter how he drives. He went to Proton SC and they did some tweaking tune, it improves a littles but still cant go through the 300km mark even he drive at constant speed. Then i suggest him to reset his ECU by removing the fuse. Now he can hit the 400km mark provided if drive constantly. His car is 1 year old+, he is quite a heavy foot driver when he first got his car, maybe the ECU has learn all his heavy driving pattern / style.

No harm trying to reset ur car ecu wink.gif
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QUOTE(rajivshm @ Jun 12 2011, 03:20 PM)
or bcoz many ppl jealous u get damn good fc all this while... now u kena sui back... LoL
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i blame in on the traffic. lol. Ampang traffic really doh.gif

QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Jun 12 2011, 04:56 PM)
Aiyah, you should know that measuring FC based on bars is not accurate mar.

Anyways, mine goes around 20 - 30+ km only, ok? But auto lar. laugh.gif
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Traffic was liek shit. 100% town. Wait Monday start work = impressive FC again brows.gif
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QUOTE(victor87 @ Jun 12 2011, 05:07 PM)
LIZ, try reset your ECU by removing the ECU fuse at your fuse box.

My friend who was driving a BLM have the same mileage as you no matter how he drives. He went to Proton SC and they did some tweaking tune, it improves a littles but still cant go through the 300km mark even he drive at constant speed. Then i suggest him to reset his ECU by removing the fuse. Now he can hit the 400km mark provided if drive constantly. His car is 1 year old+, he is quite a heavy foot driver when he first got his car, maybe the ECU has learn all his heavy driving pattern / style.

No harm trying to reset ur car ecu wink.gif
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Jz to be sure. If we wanna reset the ECU of my Saga BLM, I just pull out the fuse stated "ECU 15A" for 10mins then plug it back in. Do I complete the whole process with my car engine off or I do have to start the engine in the middle of the process?

After resetting the ECU, is the any immediate effects I can feel? Or any indication that the ECU has been reset?
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QUOTE(victor87 @ Jun 12 2011, 05:07 PM)
LIZ, try reset your ECU by removing the ECU fuse at your fuse box.

My friend who was driving a BLM have the same mileage as you no matter how he drives. He went to Proton SC and they did some tweaking tune, it improves a littles but still cant go through the 300km mark even he drive at constant speed. Then i suggest him to reset his ECU by removing the fuse. Now he can hit the 400km mark provided if drive constantly. His car is 1 year old+, he is quite a heavy foot driver when he first got his car, maybe the ECU has learn all his heavy driving pattern / style.

No harm trying to reset ur car ecu wink.gif
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I normally wouldn't advise people who don't know what they're doing to tinker around with their car.

But if LizStephenie does reset ECU, please rev the car hard for awhile after that.

QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 12 2011, 05:08 PM)
i blame in on the traffic. lol. Ampang traffic really doh.gif
Traffic was liek shit. 100% town. Wait Monday start work = impressive FC again brows.gif
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And screw you man. Monday end of school holidays i start to suffer again. mad.gif laugh.gif
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Yeah. Our cars really do suffer in traffic jams.

And screw you man. Monday end of school holidays i start to suffer again.  mad.gif laugh.gif
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At least you drive auto yo~
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haha...ya...monday start massive traffic jam again...haizzz
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QUOTE(LizStephenie @ Jun 12 2011, 05:14 PM)
Jz to be sure. If we wanna reset the ECU of my Saga BLM, I just pull out the fuse stated "ECU 15A" for 10mins then plug it back in. Do I complete the whole process with my car engine off or I do have to start the engine in the middle of the process?
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You cannot start the engine without the ECU fuse. The engine won't even crank. Been there, done that tongue.gif

Also there are two ECU fuses. One in the engine bay and another in the compartment next to the driver door. Don't know if you have to pull out both. I tried leaving them out for five days or so while I went away to JB. Didn't feel any difference hmm.gif
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You cannot start the engine without the ECU fuse. The engine won't even crank. Been there, done that tongue.gif

Also there are two ECU fuses. One in the engine bay and another in the compartment next to the driver door. Don't know if you have to pull out both. I tried leaving them out for five days or so while I went away to JB. Didn't feel any difference hmm.gif
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laugh.gif  laugh.gif  Because of jam? lol.

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haha...ya...monday start massive traffic jam again...haizzz
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don't remind me of it

there are only 2 routes from my house to my workplace.

The longer one is closed due to polo event, the other one is shorter but need to go through 3 schools cry.gif
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QUOTE(limadekad @ Jun 12 2011, 06:10 PM)
don't remind me of it

there are only 2 routes from my house to my workplace.

The longer one is closed due to polo event, the other one is shorter but need to go through 3 schools  cry.gif
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Since my work is so closely related to schools, work starts again. lol
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I feel you.

Since my work is so closely related to schools, work starts again. lol
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ericmanmax working with college/unniversity leh?  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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MAY BE you meter/fuel pump problem?
or bcoz many ppl jealous u get damn good fc all this while... now u kena sui back... LoL
wats your mileage pls. i travel d same but only get 300 for full tank till vomitt kaw kaw... (vomit still sumbat until cannot).. my mileage is 1900.
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Added on June 12, 2011, 9:41 pmif wan save fuel pls pump BHP INIFINITI ADVANCED 95

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3 school??..o hohohoho
that's gonna be stuck all the way
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Added on June 12, 2011, 9:41 pmif wan save fuel pls pump BHP INIFINITI ADVANCED 95
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is it really good? my friends have been telling me the same thing
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QUOTE(sg999 @ Jun 12 2011, 09:40 PM)

Added on June 12, 2011, 9:41 pmif wan save fuel pls pump BHP INIFINITI ADVANCED 95
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Really true? My tank due 4a fill up soon la. Where I am got only ONE (1) BHP station near my plc!! biggrin.gif

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Need help from your guys, my saga fl have this kind of situation.

May i ask if locked already inside alarm indicator will keep blinking?
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not 100% confirmed
but just collect opinion from campro user(persona ifam, neo cps)
they say they same thing too
but the cons of this fuel for campro engine is the power will reduce
mean esso/caltex provide better force than bhp
but bhp provide better mileage than C and E
For me, bhp can bring me achieve 15km/L
whereas bhp esso only 13km/L
same road same condition same driving" pattern" icon_idea.gif
just give a try brows.gif
this only apply to campro engine
for p2 car, i found it give less mileage~~~ shakehead.gif shakehead.gif

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QUOTE(sg999 @ Jun 12 2011, 11:21 PM)
not 100% confirmed
but just collect opinion from campro user(persona ifam, neo cps)
they say they same thing too
but the cons of this fuel for campro engine is the power will reduce
mean esso/caltex provide better force than bhp
but bhp provide better mileage than C and E
For me, bhp can bring me achieve 15km/L
whereas bhp esso only 13km/L
same road same condition same driving" pattern" icon_idea.gif
just give a try brows.gif
this only apply to campro engine
for p2 car, i found it give less mileage~~~ shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif
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Need help from your guys, my saga fl have this kind of situation.

May i ask if locked already inside alarm indicator will keep blinking?
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QUOTE(manubis @ Jun 13 2011, 01:13 AM)
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yea.. thats normal. to show that the alarm system is activated.
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Juz wanna ask...
Has any1 (1.3 FL with Immobiliser) bought & activated a separate 3rd party alarm remote ctrl and deactivated the orig for the key by removing its battery? Will the Immo still work?

I plan to separate the Immobiliser fr the alarm remote cos very frequent accidental pressing of alarm buttons on key when in pocket ( no protective cover for alarm buttons on orig)!

If not wrong P2 Myvi is using combination like that.
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Planning to enhance audio system in my BLM, but don't have much budget for this moment....

Should I change the head unit first or the speakers?

Changing new head unit will improve the sound quality or not? smile.gif
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My FC report for FL 1.6 auto.
1 bar down, 60km.
Is this good?
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QUOTE(sleepwalker_00 @ Jun 13 2011, 08:52 AM)
Planning to enhance audio system in my BLM, but don't have much budget for this moment....

Should I change the head unit first or the speakers?

Changing new head unit will improve the sound quality or not?  smile.gif
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i changed both. new component speakers put at front door. however i suggest u do some soundproofing to front doors if u wan put speakers there. cos when the bass kicks in, the door metal vibrate like hell. interfere my music experience.
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i changed both. new component speakers put at front door. however i suggest u do some soundproofing to front doors if u wan put speakers there. cos when the bass kicks in, the door metal vibrate like hell. interfere my music experience.
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yea...soundproof is essential for BLM's door, bro, how much do you spend for doing soundproof and speakers?

I'm planning to change HU is because I need USB connectivity, the stock HU is really bad, only can support CD. sad.gif
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My FC report for FL 1.6 auto.
1 bar down, 60km.
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still acceptable.
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QUOTE(sleepwalker_00 @ Jun 13 2011, 10:18 AM)
yea...soundproof is essential for BLM's door, bro, how much do you spend for doing soundproof and speakers?

I'm planning to change HU is because I need USB connectivity, the stock HU is really bad, only can support CD.  sad.gif
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If want to soundproof front door for sound system, do it properly.

Do not use insulflex, instead u should use damping material.

Depends on quality and brand, i DIY my front door, 3 layer damping+1 layer sound absorbing, around RM620 for material only, if done by shop, add RM180-200 for that.

The result is it can block the noise outside, stop the door, windows rattling and most important, even cheap speaker can sound nice.

If you just want the USB connectivity, change the HU.

If you want the better sound, sound proof and change speaker.

But honest speaking, stock speaker is 5'25' paper cone full range, bass still ok, mid and high range really muffle to my ear, even change HU also won't help.
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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Jun 13 2011, 10:49 AM)
If want to soundproof front door for sound system, do it properly.

Do not use insulflex, instead u should use damping material.

Depends on quality and brand, i DIY my front door, 3 layer damping+1 layer sound absorbing, around RM620 for material only, if done by shop, add RM180-200 for that.

The result is it can block the noise outside, stop the door, windows rattling and most important, even cheap speaker can sound nice.

If you just want the USB connectivity, change the HU.

If you want the better sound, sound proof and change speaker.

But honest speaking, stock speaker is 5'25' paper cone full range, bass still ok, mid and high range really muffle to my ear, even change HU also won't help.
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Thanks for the info smile.gif

Only front door soundproof costs you RM620? wow, that's expensive.
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QUOTE(sleepwalker_00 @ Jun 13 2011, 11:03 AM)
Thanks for the info  smile.gif

Only front door soundproof costs you RM620? wow, that's expensive.
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QUOTE(sleepwalker_00 @ Jun 13 2011, 11:03 AM)
Thanks for the info  smile.gif

Only front door soundproof costs you RM620? wow, that's expensive.
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that is 4 layer...normal price for that
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hey guys, curious, is our saga blm under clarion? if so i wanna claim le...its been giving a lot of static noise and sounds like it wants to blow up soon
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QUOTE(kibs @ Jun 13 2011, 12:42 PM)
hey guys, curious, is our saga blm under clarion? if so i wanna claim le...its been giving a lot of static noise and sounds like it wants to blow up soon
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the HU...u have to go to clarion to claim
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My FL is giving me more worries nowaday, it has clocked 8.4k milleage and the engine is giving very loud 'roar' sound every time I start to rev higher 3.5k above..I can even feel the accelerator pedal is vibrating more compare to previously sad.gif is it due to the engine oil? can i change it b4 10k?

One more question, is there any good SC recommended? I mean real good in troubleshooting problem for my car. Currently there is visible sound from tyre there, like something wanna drop when i go through holes, steering also vibrate sad.gif
I dont mind how far is the SC as long as my car problem can be reactify and fix.

THANKS a lot guys
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QUOTE(jerrymouse @ Jun 13 2011, 01:01 PM)
My FL is giving me more worries nowaday, it has clocked 8.4k milleage and the engine is giving very loud 'roar' sound every time I start to rev higher 3.5k above..I can even feel the accelerator pedal is vibrating more compare to previously sad.gif is it due to the engine oil? can i change it b4 10k?

One more question, is there any good SC recommended? I mean real good in troubleshooting problem for my car. Currently there is visible sound from tyre there, like something wanna drop when i go through holes, steering also vibrate sad.gif
I dont mind how far is the SC as long as my car problem can be reactify and fix.

THANKS a lot guys
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Only 8.4k km? Bought NEW? And yu hv all those probs? Sincerely hope it's just pure bad luck... sad.gif

Wonder if all that hype of Proton improving on its QC after revamp of top management and its new corporate direction & philosophy to win back Malaysians, are really being implemented.... rolleyes.gif

From what I've heard fr frens & read in forums on the Net, Proton has appeared to hv improved in its products...esp 2b able to offer min 3-year warranty is no simple commitment, considering what one is only paying for Proton cars. True?

Pls correct me if wrong, ok?

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QUOTE(jerrymouse @ Jun 13 2011, 01:01 PM)
My FL is giving me more worries nowaday, it has clocked 8.4k milleage and the engine is giving very loud 'roar' sound every time I start to rev higher 3.5k above..I can even feel the accelerator pedal is vibrating more compare to previously sad.gif is it due to the engine oil? can i change it b4 10k?

One more question, is there any good SC recommended? I mean real good in troubleshooting problem for my car. Currently there is visible sound from tyre there, like something wanna drop when i go through holes, steering also vibrate sad.gif
I dont mind how far is the SC as long as my car problem can be reactify and fix.

THANKS a lot guys
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loud roar means engine ganas? turbo engine? laugh.gif bro, new car then just send back it to the sc and let them check.
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QUOTE(jerrymouse @ Jun 13 2011, 01:01 PM)
My FL is giving me more worries nowaday, it has clocked 8.4k milleage and the engine is giving very loud 'roar' sound every time I start to rev higher 3.5k above..I can even feel the accelerator pedal is vibrating more compare to previously sad.gif is it due to the engine oil? can i change it b4 10k?

One more question, is there any good SC recommended? I mean real good in troubleshooting problem for my car. Currently there is visible sound from tyre there, like something wanna drop when i go through holes, steering also vibrate sad.gif
I dont mind how far is the SC as long as my car problem can be reactify and fix.

THANKS a lot guys
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mine is at 5.4k mileage and it happens to me as well, the engine roars real loud at 3.5k~4k rpm. can feel the accelerator pedal slightly vibrating. i think its normal. been like this for how-long-i-dont-remember already.
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QUOTE(jerrymouse @ Jun 13 2011, 01:01 PM)
My FL is giving me more worries nowaday, it has clocked 8.4k milleage and the engine is giving very loud 'roar' sound every time I start to rev higher 3.5k above..I can even feel the accelerator pedal is vibrating more compare to previously sad.gif is it due to the engine oil? can i change it b4 10k?

One more question, is there any good SC recommended? I mean real good in troubleshooting problem for my car. Currently there is visible sound from tyre there, like something wanna drop when i go through holes, steering also vibrate sad.gif
I dont mind how far is the SC as long as my car problem can be reactify and fix.

THANKS a lot guys
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I'm not sure what you mean by loud 'roar'. Personally, I love the engine sound everytime I go past 3K rpm. The engine starts to roar and it makes me feel like I'm in a sports car laugh.gif although speed is still like a small car sad.gif
So it's very hard to determine what sound you're talking about. If it is a normal engine roar, I don't think it's a problem. However, if there's something really abnormal about it, send it to the SC as soon as possible.

I'm not sure how engine oil will affect your accelerator pedal causing it to vibrate. I don't think it's possible. Maybe you have a screw loose at the pedal? Is it minor or is it a really, really serious vibration? And is it affecting only 1 pedal? Does this happen when idling or when you're accelerating?

Not sure what you mean about the sound from tire there, but when I go through a bump too fast, there might be a knocking sound.

As for steering vibration, again, is it minor or is it major? Does it happen when idling or when accelerating?

On second thoughts, just save yourself the hassle and take it to the SC to check, especially the vibration issue. Compile the issue, describe the symptoms in detail and think about how you want to show the technician the problems.

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sorry i left out. It's actually the speakers at the back. is that called HU?
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QUOTE(sleepwalker_00 @ Jun 13 2011, 10:18 AM)
yea...soundproof is essential for BLM's door, bro, how much do you spend for doing soundproof and speakers?

I'm planning to change HU is because I need USB connectivity, the stock HU is really bad, only can support CD.  sad.gif
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i only diy my "soundproof" door. not satisfied with it though. used insuflex and some damping material from SOUNDBLOK. my own opinion, insuflex doesnt help at all. spent ard 300 for my own DIY on 4 doors.

speakers got from EA Autoworks. can check with howiechoo for the pricing. so far very satisfied with the satisfied, taking into account my budget.


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QUOTE(jerrymouse @ Jun 13 2011, 01:01 PM)
My FL is giving me more worries nowaday, it has clocked 8.4k milleage and the engine is giving very loud 'roar' sound every time I start to rev higher 3.5k above..I can even feel the accelerator pedal is vibrating more compare to previously sad.gif is it due to the engine oil? can i change it b4 10k?
THANKS a lot guys
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i also feel some vibration on the pedal. but thats when im going > 120kmh.
vibration is quite minimal. considering how hard the engine is revving at that speed. i feel its acceptable given the build quality.

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QUOTE(DaBestOne @ Jun 13 2011, 12:49 PM)
even if its ori from proton..? can claim from clarion straight?
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proton never have HU...they use others


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sorry i left out. It's actually the speakers at the back. is that called HU?
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i think it's 1 set...all audio thing go clarion claim
u go SC also no one can help u there

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as u seen on the HU....the brand is what brand thn u go where claim
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Saga BLM 1.6 Manual sprinting Karak Highway

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBl84H5_58I

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Hi guys,

First of all, thanks for all the fast reply..let me explain in more detail about the 2 problem I face on my car.
For the vibrating issue, it only occur recently whereby when I rev my car up to 4k, the engine sound is not as fine as b4 and my pedal can feel the vibration even I m wearing sport shoes, below rpm 3k there is no such vibrating problem.

2nd problem is kind of hard to explain here, all I can say is the sound ONLY appear when low speed, 10km/h - 20km/h and the sound only appear on the right bottom part of the car..everytime when u go accross holes or those patched-up "longkang" on the road,there is sound like 2 metal bar hitting to each other and at the same time my steering wheel can feel the metal bar hitting below the tyre part and thus causing "jerking" or vibration. This phenomena is more obvious when my car steer to the right and at the same time go over holes or sharp object. I send to 3 SC in puchong for several time and everytime they tested my car they drive around 60-80km/h and say " Eh tak ada problem ah" =.= padahal I told them to slow down at the first place. At the end, all 3 SC give me the same answer, "Tat sound is from suspension/absorber there memang like tat "keras" one, cant do anything one, spray spray WD40 and give me the car key back"

NEed some pro sifu here plz and sorry for the long explanation =(
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QUOTE(DaBestOne @ Jun 13 2011, 02:50 PM)
yea but i tot the warranty or wat are being done by proton themselves..? as in they are the one who is suppose to handle the case.
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they can but they dn't have the ppl to install it for u also
they're mechanic...not electrical technician
plus when the HU is installed...i dn't think is proton ppl install also
so go clarion is better...they will claim and install it good good for u
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Anyone had already installed Pioneer HU in BLM? Can it be fitted nicely? I mean same like the stock HU, can fully fit in without any convex from front side.

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QUOTE(sleepwalker_00 @ Jun 13 2011, 03:19 PM)
Anyone had already installed Pioneer HU in BLM? Can it be fitted nicely? I mean same like the stock HU, can fully fit in without any convex from front side.
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my pioneer hu 6350 fits nicely. no modifications needed.
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QUOTE(17osm17 @ Jun 13 2011, 03:30 PM)
my pioneer hu 6350 fits nicely. no modifications needed.
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Mind to show picture? i want to change Pioneer HU 4350. smile.gif
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210km dropped half

this tank aint gonna last long
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 13 2011, 05:58 PM)
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210km dropped half

this tank aint gonna last long
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wait till tank finished only summarize
and try different station....and once u found out which gives best FC...only go to that station if possible
i notice different station gives different FC / different amount of petrol to u...in order to earn money
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 13 2011, 07:29 PM)
wait till tank finished only summarize
and try different station....and once u found out which gives best FC...only go to that station if possible
i notice different station gives different FC / different amount of petrol to u...in order to earn money
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Yup, as I'd posted earlier...might not be the petrol but more of the station... sad.gif

Also the sensitivity of the auto-stop mechanism of pumps also dispense different amounts of petrol @filling time! I juz had 1 pump stopping after abt RM20+ but on continuing manually, I cld fill RM40+ ie almost double first try! Phew!

Petrol gauge showed still got 3 bars at start! Something fishy? hmm.gif

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Hmmm. today ain't the first time i couldn't start my FL. Cranked the engine over 3-4 secs and the engine didnt start. Turn key to ON, waited 5-6 secs, then crank. Can't. Switched off the engine, then waited about 5 secs, then slot the key to ON, 5 secs later, cranked the engine about 3 secs then only the engine started. Weird. After 15mins of driving, stopped the car, turned off the engine, and went to do some stuffs. After about 10mins, got back in the car, same thing again. Cranked the engine over 3 secs before the car started. It happens randomly. Problem with spark plug? or what? Anyone facing this prob? My FL is only at 5400km mileage.
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QUOTE(Aishinka @ Jun 13 2011, 07:57 PM)
Hmmm. today ain't the first time i couldn't start my FL. Cranked the engine over 3-4 secs and the engine didnt start. Turn key to ON, waited 5-6 secs, then crank. Can't. Switched off the engine, then waited about 5 secs, then slot the key to ON, 5 secs later, cranked the engine about 3 secs then only the engine started. Weird. After 15mins of driving, stopped the car, turned off the engine, and went to do some stuffs. After about 10mins, got back in the car, same thing again. Cranked the engine over 3 secs before the car started. It happens randomly. Problem with spark plug? or what? Anyone facing this prob? My FL is only at 5400km mileage.
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Same thing happened to me before, but bare in mind, my car is much older than yours. My battery may be acting up. I dont know, yet. That day went up Genting, battery acted up. But these few days the problem seems to have gone away.

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 13 2011, 08:04 PM)
Same thing happened to me before, but bare in mind, my car is much older than yours. My battery may be acting up. I dont know, yet. That day went up Genting, battery acted up. But these few days the problem seems to have gone away.

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Exactly, mine is a new car. Jan 2011 car. hmm.gif i'm close to my next service, maybe i'll have to ask the SC about this and get my alarm fixed ohmy.gif
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QUOTE(Aishinka @ Jun 13 2011, 07:57 PM)
Hmmm. today ain't the first time i couldn't start my FL. Cranked the engine over 3-4 secs and the engine didnt start. Turn key to ON, waited 5-6 secs, then crank. Can't. Switched off the engine, then waited about 5 secs, then slot the key to ON, 5 secs later, cranked the engine about 3 secs then only the engine started. Weird. After 15mins of driving, stopped the car, turned off the engine, and went to do some stuffs. After about 10mins, got back in the car, same thing again. Cranked the engine over 3 secs before the car started. It happens randomly. Problem with spark plug? or what? Anyone facing this prob? My FL is only at 5400km mileage.
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this is a problem of saga blm/FL...sometime need to crank 3 times be4 the engine can start
not sure why...nobody knows
but a way to fix it it that...when u stop...dn't directly turn off the engine
try open the door and hear if the radiator fan is spinning...in simpler word, is it idling + another loud noise
if the radiator fan is spinning, wait for it to off only u off the engine
if the radiator fan is off, then u can directly turn it off
this is told by another member, someone tried...it works....i also tried it, it works as well
it's been quiet some time i didn't encounter that problem anymore
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 13 2011, 08:18 PM)
this is a problem of saga blm/FL...sometime need to crank 3 times be4 the engine can start
not sure why...nobody knows
but a way to fix it it that...when u stop...dn't directly turn off the engine
try open the door and hear if the radiator fan is spinning...in simpler word, is it idling + another loud noise
if the radiator fan is spinning, wait for it to off only u off the engine
if the radiator fan is off, then u can directly turn it off
this is told by another member, someone tried...it works....i also tried it, it works as well
it's been quiet some time i didn't encounter that problem anymore
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QUOTE(sa10 @ Jun 13 2011, 08:19 PM)
common problem on campro when having warm start. somebody claimed  tht it was crank sensor problem
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yeah, thats what i do. i normally open the door to wait for the radiator fan to stop spinning then turn off the engine. hmmmmmm. oh well, gotta live with it. malaysia product. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(Aishinka @ Jun 13 2011, 08:31 PM)
yeah, thats what i do. i normally open the door to wait for the radiator fan to stop spinning then turn off the engine. hmmmmmm. oh well, gotta live with it. malaysia product.  rclxub.gif
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dood, nothing's perfect okay.

even my mom's NISSAN also got problem la
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 13 2011, 08:47 PM)
dood, nothing's perfect okay.

even my mom's NISSAN also got problem la
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hahah i know i know. i still have another 600km to my next service. should i service my car earlier before i head to melaka, or should i service after i get back?
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QUOTE(Aishinka @ Jun 13 2011, 08:49 PM)
hahah i know i know. i still have another 600km to my next service. should i service my car earlier before i head to melaka, or should i service after i get back?
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Either way also can. No harm done.
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 13 2011, 05:58 PM)
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210km dropped half

this tank aint gonna last long
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mine just refill last saturday, 23xkm drop 2 bar..
last 2 bar usually very fast drop..

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 13 2011, 08:18 PM)
this is a problem of saga blm/FL...sometime need to crank 3 times be4 the engine can start
not sure why...nobody knows
but a way to fix it it that...when u stop...dn't directly turn off the engine
try open the door and hear if the radiator fan is spinning...in simpler word, is it idling + another loud noise
if the radiator fan is spinning, wait for it to off only u off the engine
if the radiator fan is off, then u can directly turn it off
this is told by another member, someone tried...it works....i also tried it, it works as well
it's been quiet some time i didn't encounter that problem anymore
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If that's the prob, then there's one way to overcome it.

There is a good feature in my ole ride...PS 1.5I Auto (1992). Whenever ignition is switched off while rad fan is on, the engine is stopped BUT the rad fan continues to work if engine temp is above normal working temp thereby lowering engine temp b4 it stops.

BLMs ignition switch turns ALL off!! That, I feel, is the root of the prob!

Is there a way a delay switch can be added to the rad fan circuit to keep it running until the engine temp is not above normal running temp? Maybe a relay controlled by the engine temp sensor?

Any elect tech mbers arnd who can help set up of such a relay? Shld b possible, rite? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(zeone @ Jun 13 2011, 09:21 PM)
If that's the prob, then there's one way to overcome it.

There is a good feature in my ole ride...PS 1.5I Auto (1992). Whenever ignition is switched off while rad fan is on, the engine is stopped BUT the rad fan continues to work if engine temp is above normal working temp thereby lowering engine temp b4 it stops.

BLMs ignition switch turns ALL off!! That, I feel, is the root of the prob!

Is there a way a delay switch can be added to the rad fan circuit to keep it running until the engine temp is not above normal running temp? Maybe a relay controlled by the engine temp sensor?

Any elect tech mbers arnd who can help set up of such a relay? Shld b possible, rite?  hmm.gif
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there is actually
that gadget is call turbo timer
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 13 2011, 09:32 PM)
there is actually
that gadget is call turbo timer
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Oh? Affordable? Easy to install? Any pics of item...a useful link perhaps?

ps. Sorry 4so many questions. tongue.gif

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Eh~

Persona also can let the rad fan continue to run
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QUOTE(zeone @ Jun 13 2011, 09:38 PM)
Oh? Affordable? Easy to install? Any pics of item...a useful link perhaps?

ps. Sorry 4so many questions.  tongue.gif
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install i think need to go to shop and have them install

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I normally stop my car and wait for 1min before turning off the engine it helps alot with the engine cranking problem.

Btw have anyone changed their rear brakes to disc brakes,planning to change mine soon i'm not happy with the stock brakes.I saw an advert at mudah rear disc breaks for blm ("confirm no problem") Rm800 siap pasang.The disc break from eterna,it seems it the most suitable for blm for some reason regarding the handbrake and the diameter is small so can fit it any car.
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 13 2011, 09:57 PM)
u can search around lelong or mudah or automotive garage
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just dn't buy those that u see that is especially too cheap
install i think need to go to shop and have them install
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Yup, Juz now Googled & saw lots on sale in lelong site! Not cheap either! But mainly used to continue run engine to cool down turbo.

And yup, installation diagram shown not simple task & need to get car model specific connectors for good safe install.

Shld find easier way... hehe... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(pravred @ Jun 13 2011, 10:04 PM)
I normally stop my car and wait for 1min before turning off the engine it helps alot with the engine cranking problem.

Btw have anyone changed their rear brakes to disc brakes,planning to change mine soon i'm not happy with the stock brakes.I saw an advert at mudah rear disc breaks for blm ("confirm no problem") Rm800 siap pasang.The disc break from eterna,it seems it the most suitable for blm for some reason regarding the handbrake and the diameter is small so can fit it any car.
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Change your front brake pads first.

Altering your braking system, in this case, rear disc brake, will need to send to Puspakom/JPJ for inspection.

Personally, I dont think its necessary, as 75-85% braking is from the front, so as I said, change your front brake pads first. And its also cheaper than changing the rear brakes to discs.
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Eh~

Persona also can let the rad fan continue to run
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Sometimes wonder why Proton ppl omit such good inexpensive features which were oledi in old Proton models!

Juz kenot understand such so-called "designers"!! 1 step forward and yet take 1 step backwards wan! sad.gif
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QUOTE(zeone @ Jun 13 2011, 10:07 PM)
Yup, Juz now Googled & saw lots on sale in lelong site! Not cheap either! But mainly used to continue run engine to cool down turbo.

And yup, installation diagram shown not simple task & need to get car model specific connectors for good safe install.

Shld find easier way... hehe... tongue.gif
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Actually our cars (Campro ones) does allow the radiator fan to continue to run if the engine temperatures exceeds the threshold values.

Like mine last time didn't off, later found out radiator fluid dont have doh.gif
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QUOTE(zeone @ Jun 13 2011, 10:11 PM)
Sometimes wonder why Proton ppl omit such good inexpensive features which were oledi in old Proton models!

Juz kenot understand such so-called "designers"!! 1 step forward and yet take 1 step backwards wan!  sad.gif
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Read my second newest reply
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 13 2011, 10:10 PM)
Change your front brake pads first.

Altering your braking system, in this case, rear disc brake, will need to send to Puspakom/JPJ for inspection.

Personally, I dont think its necessary, as 75-85% braking is from the front, so as I said, change your front brake pads first. And its also cheaper than changing the rear brakes to discs.
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ya i recalled you told me so,but my friend poison me saying change rear to disc better,may be as you said i should change my brake pads and see the difference,more cheaper.bro do you mean change to sports kind of brake pads? or any recommendation.
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QUOTE(pravred @ Jun 13 2011, 10:13 PM)
ya i recalled you told me so,but my friend poison me saying change rear to disc better,may be as you said i should change my brake pads and see the difference,more cheaper.bro do you mean change to sports kind of brake pads? or any recommendation.
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Hmm, other than OEM ones, I think most should be okay.

Just be sure of several factors, like optimum operating temperatures, metallic concentration, etc
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 13 2011, 10:10 PM)
Change your front brake pads first.

Altering your braking system, in this case, rear disc brake, will need to send to Puspakom/JPJ for inspection.

Personally, I dont think its necessary, as 75-85% braking is from the front, so as I said, change your front brake pads first. And its also cheaper than changing the rear brakes to discs.
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Agreed! Feel not worth the Puspakom hassle!

Change to better brake pads first. If want better improved braking, another mod I've done to my ole ride is a change to SS Reinforced Brake Hoses. Can instantly feel the difference in braking capability!

If wanna save $$$, do it the DIY way as taught in car forums. Of course, effect not as great as a change of better hoses. smile.gif

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The other option is to opt for larger front disc brakes, but may need JPJ inspection + rim change.
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 13 2011, 10:16 PM)
Hmm, other than OEM ones, I think most should be okay.

Just be sure of several factors, like optimum operating temperatures, metallic concentration, etc
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yup i think i better find out properly before changing pad just now while looking for brake pads,one blm owner change brake pad to mintex and end up overheating the and spoil the rotor. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(pravred @ Jun 13 2011, 10:21 PM)
yup i think i better find out properly before changing pad just now while looking for brake pads,one blm owner change brake pad to mintex and end up overheating the and spoil the rotor. sweat.gif
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On track day?

Normal driving shouldn't happen.

I dunno what pads I'm using (DAMN that sounds wrong), but downhill Genting, with stepping on the brakes quite a lot, it does not fade/overheat that easily. Mine's definitely not OEM as my fren's Persona OEM pads overheated.
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 13 2011, 10:12 PM)
Actually our cars (Campro ones) does allow the radiator fan to continue to run if the engine temperatures exceeds the threshold values.

Like mine last time didn't off, later found out radiator fluid dont have doh.gif
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Fan only runs if ignition is on "start car" position. But when key is turned to "Accesories" position, rad fan is shut down! sad.gif

In old Sagas, as long as key is not removed, rad fan runs till temp is down. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 13 2011, 10:24 PM)
On track day?

Normal driving shouldn't happen.

I dunno what pads I'm using (DAMN that sounds wrong), but downhill Genting, with stepping on the brakes quite a lot, it does not fade/overheat that easily. Mine's definitely not OEM as my fren's Persona OEM pads overheated.
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he said when come down genting got smoke and brake stop functioning,scary lah.he stop for a while than later continue down,later normal driving also heating up and got screeching sound.
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QUOTE(zeone @ Jun 13 2011, 10:26 PM)
Fan only runs if ignition is on "start car" position. But when key is turned to "Accesories" position, rad fan is shut down!  sad.gif

In old Sagas, as long as key is not removed, rad fan runs till temp is down.  tongue.gif
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How to compare with old Saga bro. Old Saga is a Lancer, this new Saga has no relation whatsoever with the Lancer tongue.gif

QUOTE(pravred @ Jun 13 2011, 10:27 PM)
he said when come down genting got smoke and brake stop functioning,scary lah.he stop for a while than later continue down,later normal driving also heating up and got screeching sound.
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He spamming the brakes ka? I think it's driver problem more than brake pad problem lo.
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 13 2011, 10:29 PM)
He spamming the brakes ka? I think it's driver problem more than brake pad problem lo.
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i continued reading his problem and later he found out that the brake pad didn't suit blm rotor cause it can't stand high temp need to change to aftermarket rotors.he changed back to stock than ok redi.i think i will just change to something slightly better duwan to change to sports kinda pads and end up spending more money.huh this week brake pads shopping.
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QUOTE(pravred @ Jun 13 2011, 10:04 PM)
I normally stop my car and wait for 1min before turning off the engine it helps alot with the engine cranking problem.

Btw have anyone changed their rear brakes to disc brakes,planning to change mine soon i'm not happy with the stock brakes.I saw an advert at mudah rear disc breaks for blm ("confirm no problem") Rm800 siap pasang.The disc break from eterna,it seems it the most suitable for blm for some reason regarding the handbrake and the diameter is small so can fit it any car.
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thn anyone can go try and report it here
drum brake sucks...not sure why car manufacturer still using them??
mainly becuz it's cheap only
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QUOTE(pravred @ Jun 13 2011, 10:35 PM)
i continued reading his problem and later he found out that the brake pad didn't suit blm rotor cause it can't stand high temp need to change to aftermarket rotors.he changed back to stock than ok redi.i think i will just change to something slightly better duwan to change to sports kinda pads and end up spending more money.huh this week brake pads shopping.
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Do update us on the brakepads that you will buy

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guys, can recommend me which SC besides puchong and SK better? I dont mind going far, heard that SC in Shah Alam quite good as their mechanic is more experience, is that true? May I know what is the SC name?

Really really appreciate if any owner here can give me some suggestion.

Many thanks
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 13 2011, 10:36 PM)
thn anyone can go try and report it here
drum brake sucks...not sure why car manufacturer still using them??
mainly becuz it's cheap only
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Well, it serves it's purpose, right?

Sylphy 2.0 rear drum brakes.

Even the new Chevrolet Sonic also rear drum brakes.
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QUOTE(zeone @ Jun 13 2011, 10:11 PM)
Sometimes wonder why Proton ppl omit such good inexpensive features which were oledi in old Proton models!

Juz kenot understand such so-called "designers"!! 1 step forward and yet take 1 step backwards wan!  sad.gif
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i think i saw some member saying the fan is still spinning after u turn off
that was few threads back
i think it is still spinning
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QUOTE(jerrymouse @ Jun 13 2011, 10:38 PM)
guys, can recommend me which SC besides puchong and SK better? I dont mind going far, heard that SC in Shah Alam quite good as their mechanic is more experience, is that true? May I know what is the SC name?

Really really appreciate if any owner here can give me some suggestion.

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Well, the one in Shah Alam is the Center Of Excellence.

Unlike my fren who wanted to claim his IAFM and waited 3 days, I got mine on the spot and its covered under warranty.
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QUOTE(pravred @ Jun 13 2011, 10:13 PM)
ya i recalled you told me so,but my friend poison me saying change rear to disc better,may be as you said i should change my brake pads and see the difference,more cheaper.bro do you mean change to sports kind of brake pads? or any recommendation.
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if u want braking capability....change front brake pad already enough
changing the rear drum brake to disc brake is for peace of mind
becuz the handbrake not makan, drum brake makan 1 side..etc problem
and i'm not really sure when to service the drum brake or need service or not
if change to disc brake...it's simpler to manage and no such problem from drum brake stated above
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 13 2011, 10:36 PM)
thn anyone can go try and report it here
drum brake sucks...not sure why car manufacturer still using them??
mainly becuz it's cheap only
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Yup, car producers are doing biznes... So it's alwaz a question of economics. Economics of $$$! Do tell which biznesman not think of cost & profit...?? nod.gif
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 13 2011, 10:39 PM)
Well, the one in Shah Alam is the Center Of Excellence.

Unlike my fren who wanted to claim his IAFM and waited 3 days, I got mine on the spot and its covered under warranty.
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thanks ericmaxman for that smile.gif , I will try to make appointment with them n send my car on Wednesday.
Hopefully the problem can be rectified, finger crossed.
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QUOTE(zeone @ Jun 13 2011, 10:43 PM)
Yup, car producers are doing biznes... So it's alwaz a question of economics. Economics of $$$! Do tell which biznesman not think of cost & profit...?? nod.gif
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Well, Proton sells their cars to cover their R&D costs, then what about Perodua? Hmm

QUOTE(jerrymouse @ Jun 13 2011, 10:44 PM)
thanks ericmaxman for that  smile.gif , I will try to make appointment with them n send my car on Wednesday.
Hopefully the problem can be rectified, finger crossed.
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Whats your problem?

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QUOTE(pravred @ Jun 13 2011, 10:27 PM)
he said when come down genting got smoke and brake stop functioning,scary lah.he stop for a while than later continue down,later normal driving also heating up and got screeching sound.
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i just got a brake pad as stock few month ago....thinking of changing it soon
got it from automotive garage called "ceramic NAO"
their reviews are quiet good...u can try
i buy it mainly it's ceramic...less dust....the temperature also quiet high

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 13 2011, 10:39 PM)
i think i saw some member saying the fan is still spinning after u turn off
that was few threads back
i think it is still spinning
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Izzit?

Will try 2rber 2keep an eye & also an ear out for that spinning rad fan... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 13 2011, 10:47 PM)
i just got a brake pad as stock few month ago....thinking of changing it soon
got it from automotive garage called "ceramic NAO"
their reviews are quiet good...u can try
i buy it mainly it's ceramic...less dust....the temperature also quiet high
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Less dust means eat into rotor more, and vice versa.

Mine also not much dust doh.gif
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 13 2011, 10:42 PM)
if u want braking capability....change front brake pad already enough
changing the rear drum brake to disc brake is for peace of mind
becuz the handbrake not makan, drum brake makan 1 side..etc problem
and i'm not really sure when to service the drum brake or need service or not
if change to disc brake...it's simpler to manage and no such problem from drum brake stated above
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ya bro you got a point regarding the peace of mind,i will change the pads first than only the rear RM800 quite expensive for current situation on top of that car got slight accident. sad.gif
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 13 2011, 10:45 PM)
Well, Proton sells their cars to cover their R&D costs, then what about Perodua?  Hmm
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but they have to think abt aftersales also
if everyone also go back SC and claim rear brake problem
that's a big cost there...lol
install disc brake...they won't even come back

p2 one is all profit...they dn't even have R&D...all rebadge
at start already profit...somemore the price is more expensive than car that is designed from scratch


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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 13 2011, 10:49 PM)
Less dust means eat into rotor more, and vice versa.

Mine also not much dust doh.gif
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not really...a good pair of brake pad have no dust at all and eats at the same time
or an expensive one
mine lots of dust....few days after i wash my car...theres dust there already

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 13 2011, 10:50 PM)
but they have to think abt aftersales also
if everyone also go back SC and claim rear brake problem
that's a big cost there...lol
install disc brake...they won't even come back

p2 one is all profit...they dn't even have R&D...all rebadge
at start already profit...somemore the price is more expensive than car that is designed from scratch
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Well, personally I'd rather have stuck brakes than stuck accelerators

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 13 2011, 10:50 PM)
not really...a good pair of brake pad have no dust at all
or an expensive one
mine lots of dust....few days after i wash my car...theres dust there already
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Wait i take picture of my rims this weekend.
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 13 2011, 10:54 PM)
Wait i take picture of my rims this weekend.
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yours is OEM brake pad??
mine still is...damn lots of dust...actually the whole rim is
hope after later change to the "ceramic NAO" pad...less dust
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 13 2011, 10:55 PM)
yours is OEM brake pad??
mine still is...damn lots of dust...actually the whole rim is
hope after later change to the "ceramic NAO" pad...less dust
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Do pls share results of yr use of "ceramic NAO" pads, ok?

ATM my FL's OEM pads appears ok w/o much dust. 1 week not wash still ok. Dunno wat brand it really is tho. Any1 knows?
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 13 2011, 10:45 PM)
Well, Proton sells their cars to cover their R&D costs, then what about Perodua?  Hmm
Whats your problem?
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Long story, as I have posted here earlier :

QUOTE(jerrymouse @ Jun 13 2011, 02:57 PM)
Hi guys,

First of all, thanks for all the fast reply..let me explain in more detail about the 2 problem I face on my car.
For the vibrating issue, it only occur recently whereby when I rev my car up to 4k, the engine sound is not as fine as b4 and my pedal can feel the vibration even I m wearing sport shoes, below rpm 3k there is no such vibrating problem.

2nd problem is kind of hard to explain here, all I can say is the sound ONLY appear when low speed, 10km/h - 20km/h and the sound only appear on the right bottom part of the car..everytime when u go accross holes or those patched-up "longkang" on the road,there is sound like 2 metal bar hitting to each other and at the same time my steering wheel can feel the metal bar hitting below the tyre part and thus causing "jerking" or vibration. This phenomena is more obvious when my car steer to the right and at the same time go over holes or sharp object. I send to 3 SC in puchong for several time and everytime they tested my car they drive around 60-80km/h and say " Eh tak ada problem ah" =.= padahal I told them to slow down at the first place. At the end, all 3 SC give me the same answer, "Tat sound is from suspension/absorber there memang like tat "keras" one, cant do anything one, spray spray WD40 and give me the car key back"

NEed some pro sifu here plz and sorry for the long explanation =(
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just checked out brembo brake pads...walao Rm300+ too high end already was checking it out as i see sports car normally use it,any good brand with reasonable price?

MR_alien bro where did you buy the pads from?
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QUOTE(pravred @ Jun 13 2011, 11:06 PM)
just checked out brembo brake pads...walao Rm300+ too high end already was checking it out as i see sports car normally use it,any good brand with reasonable price?

MR_alien bro where did you buy the pads from?
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can the brembo brake pad use on normal brake calipers? without having to use brembo calipers?
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OEMs are a compromise between functionality & cost. More inclined towards affordability for the common Msian car owner.

Moreover most BLMs are not modded for Sports use. Not worth gping for high end stuff. True?

Feel if wanna replace, juz go for a tad higher quality stuff shld b good enuf.
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QUOTE(DaBestOne @ Jun 13 2011, 11:16 PM)
can the brembo brake pad use on normal brake calipers? without having to use brembo calipers?
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i canceled the page and i can't retrive my history(private browsing) but if i'm not mistaken it said brembo pads for standard rotors,haha....not sure our blm got standard or not
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QUOTE(zeone @ Jun 13 2011, 11:01 PM)
Do pls share results of yr use of "ceramic NAO" pads, ok?

ATM my FL's OEM pads appears ok w/o much dust. 1 week not wash still ok. Dunno wat brand it really is tho. Any1 knows?
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sure will but am not sure when will change
wait and monitor the disc grinding sound 1st thn only change


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QUOTE(pravred @ Jun 13 2011, 11:06 PM)
just checked out brembo brake pads...walao Rm300+ too high end already was checking it out as i see sports car normally use it,any good brand with reasonable price?

MR_alien bro where did you buy the pads from?
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i got it from automotive garage
search there...i saw alot other brands selling there
i buy it solely because its ceramic


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QUOTE(jerrymouse @ Jun 13 2011, 11:02 PM)
Long story, as I have posted here earlier :
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the 2nd prob u posted is definitely the absorber
the abs is too soft which give u a comfortable drive...so got those metal sound
if u change to harder abs...it won't have such prob but not as comfortable as the original abs

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 13 2011, 03:00 PM)
they can but they dn't have the ppl to install it for u also
they're mechanic...not electrical technician
plus when the HU is installed...i dn't think is proton ppl install also
so go clarion is better...they will claim and install it good good for u
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so summary, go to clarion straight to get it fixed tongue.gif tongue.gif


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QUOTE(zeone @ Jun 13 2011, 10:19 PM)
Agreed! Feel not worth the Puspakom hassle!

Change to better brake pads first. If want better improved braking, another mod I've done to my ole ride is a change to SS Reinforced Brake Hoses. Can instantly feel the difference in braking capability!

If wanna save $$$, do it the DIY way as taught in car forums. Of course, effect not as great as a change of better hoses.  smile.gif
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I echo your sentiments!! I asked my friend(car enthusiast and his dad crazy cars) on his opinion on changing drum brake to disk rotor at the rear also no point reason being our cars don't have enough power to even reach a point where we need super braking capabilities unless you mod like mad la. I would like your opinion on Ceramic brake pads though for the front. what do you guys think? worthid?


Added on June 14, 2011, 12:40 amoops...MR_alien bought it d hahaha please let me know how it works out cause i was thinking of changing to ceramic for future use ^^ also i saw there is a brand of ceramic brake pads named Pumatec. What do you guys think?

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 13 2011, 10:55 PM)
yours is OEM brake pad??
mine still is...damn lots of dust...actually the whole rim is
hope after later change to the "ceramic NAO" pad...less dust
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Not sure if OEM or changed to aftermarket, cuz the braking power is indeed quite decent
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hi all, i've got some questions regarding saga FL...

1)currently the saga FL came with the standard tint from the factory.. if i would like to do a tint, will the technician need to remove the existing tint or just add on to it.. i am just afraid it will be too dark and not JPJ compliance.

2)I coming to my first 1K service.. what type of oil will they use? semi of fully synthetic?
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Regarding changing brakes, I would've thought getting a good set of tires would take priority first. Then the brakes. I know the stock brakes aren't good, but even with these stock brakes, the tires skid all too easily. sweat.gif

QUOTE(vostro @ Jun 14 2011, 09:32 AM)
hi all, i've got some questions regarding saga FL...

1)currently the saga FL came with the standard tint from the factory.. if i would like to do a tint, will the technician need to remove the existing tint or just add on to it..  i am just afraid it will be too dark and not JPJ compliance.

2)I coming to my first 1K service.. what type of oil will they use? semi of fully synthetic?
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1) If you wanna play safe, then you better remove the older tint first. Especially if you are installing expensive tint.

2) The standard would be to use Semi synthetic. There's no point using fully synthetic for your first few service anyways, since the first 3 service will be 1, 5, 10k.
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but I feel abit waste to remove the old tint as it has the satefy tint purpose leh...unless if wanna install those exp tint like 2k above one then diff story lo ><

but usually if we add on another layer of tint, will the new tint peel off easily?
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QUOTE(jerrymouse @ Jun 14 2011, 10:39 AM)
but I feel abit waste to remove the old tint as it has the satefy tint purpose leh...unless if wanna install those exp tint like 2k above one then diff story lo ><

but usually if we add on another layer of tint, will the new tint peel off easily?
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the only risk i heard...if the first layer of tint worn out or has some bubbles, the second layer of tint also need to be removed, cant be saved

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QUOTE(xshiro @ Jun 14 2011, 11:15 AM)
the only risk i heard...if the first layer of tint worn out or has some bubbles, the second layer of tint also need to be removed, cant be saved
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ic..do u know how is the quality of our Saga FL's tint? can it last long like 5 years? bcz I also plan to put extra layer tint but feel abit sayang if take out the original Safety tint.
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I rather don't want the stock safe tint from Proton, saw the quote, RM650, if remove it seems a bit waste.
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QUOTE(jerrymouse @ Jun 14 2011, 11:21 AM)
ic..do u know how is the quality of our Saga FL's tint? can it last long like 5 years? bcz I also plan to put extra layer tint but feel abit sayang if take out the original Safety tint.
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im not sure...my car is 2008 batch...comes with no tint at all...using cheapo 300 tint right now.. blush.gif
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QUOTE(jerrymouse @ Jun 14 2011, 10:39 AM)
but I feel abit waste to remove the old tint as it has the satefy tint purpose leh...unless if wanna install those exp tint like 2k above one then diff story lo ><

but usually if we add on another layer of tint, will the new tint peel off easily?
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Up to you man. If the layer underneath bubbles, and this happened to a lot of people, both layers are screwed.

Not to mention you might not pass JPJ roadblocks.

And I'm not sure if their Safetint is real safety tint. All I know is that it's an OEM from Ecotint. Maybe someone here might be able to shed some light on it.
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yeah, thats why I feel abit waste if remove the original tint..if put another layer onto it , what do u guy think? I plan to install some normal tint, around 500 like that.

One more thing, just called Proton COE for booking..all full till 21st of May ==
Anybody has 2nd alternative Service center which is on par with COE?
Wanna send my car for checking.

Thanks a lot.


Added on June 14, 2011, 11:37 amSOrry..typo..it is 21st June >.<


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QUOTE(jerrymouse @ Jun 14 2011, 11:36 AM)
yeah, thats why I feel abit waste if remove the original tint..if put another layer onto it , what do u guy think? I plan to install some normal tint, around 500 like that.

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it depends bro, i dealt with alot of saga customers that want to peel off the original film coz it fades, bubbles and etc. so i do not recommend you to tint 2 layers over the ori layer coz if 1 layer screws up then there goes ur second layer. If JPJ kacau then lagi cham.

You can still get good tinting outside. OEM or ori from proton doesnt mean its the best rite..? It might look nice when new but we dunno wat will happen after awhile. smile.gif
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QUOTE(jerrymouse @ Jun 14 2011, 11:36 AM)
yeah, thats why I feel abit waste if remove the original tint..if put another layer onto it , what do u guy think? I plan to install some normal tint, around 500 like that.

One more thing, just called Proton COE for booking..all full till 21st of May ==
Anybody has 2nd alternative Service center which is on par with COE?
Wanna send my car for checking.

Thanks a lot.


Added on June 14, 2011, 11:37 amSOrry..typo..it is 21st June >.<
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just remove the ones from proton...it has poor workmanship
it's not the tint that is not good...it's the workmanship
so problem can come anytime
so i suggest remove that layer and install the one u want with GOOD WORKMANSHIP...very important
cuz how long the tint gonna last rely solely on the workmanship
dn't let those young adult that install the whole car within 30 minute do your tinting
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QUOTE(DaBestOne @ Jun 14 2011, 12:15 PM)
it depends bro, i dealt with alot of saga customers that want to peel off the original film coz it fades, bubbles and etc. so i do not recommend you to tint 2 layers over the ori layer coz if 1 layer screws up then there goes ur second layer. If JPJ kacau then lagi cham.

You can still get good tinting outside. OEM or ori from proton doesnt mean its the best rite..? It might look nice when new but we dunno wat will happen after awhile.  smile.gif
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Since most of the comment indicate that the original tint from proton is not good, so can I just apply a normal cheap tint first? then if touchwood the first layer got bubble or peel off, at least I wont be so pain ..and then only I remove both tint and install one good tint set. Is it advisable to do like this? Bcz not to say I am stuborn la but I abit "unwilling" to peel off my new car original tint blush.gif


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just remove the ones from proton...it has poor workmanship
it's not the tint that is not good...it's the workmanship
so problem can come anytime
so i suggest remove that layer and install the one u want with GOOD WORKMANSHIP...very important
cuz how long the tint gonna last rely solely on the workmanship
dn't let those young adult that install the whole car within 30 minute do your tinting
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thanks for this precious advise, I always thought the quality of tint in our car is lie on the quality of the tint....now I know is depend on the workmanship rather than the tint quality smile.gif

Anyway Mr_alien, do u hv any idea which SC is best recommend for checking my car problem? since COE is fully booked until 21st of June 2011. Any where is fine for me bcz now my 1st priority is to get my car problem fix.

Many thanks

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my cluth still got taktak sound when preesed!!
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Jerrymouse:

I suggest you to install a good tint though it's more expensive, don't waste money to install 'normal cheap' tint, no use 1...

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QUOTE(sleepwalker_00 @ Jun 14 2011, 01:19 PM)
Jerrymouse:

I suggest you to install a good tint though it's more expensive, don't waste money to install 'normal cheap' tint, no use 1...
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Ya lo...since yu're gonna install a good tint finally, dun waste good $$$ on doing the cheap tint inbetween. A real waste!

Yup, go straight do the BEST tint yu can afford and dun look back! Enjoy.... rclxms.gif


Added on June 14, 2011, 1:56 pmBTW my FL Exec came with Proton's Ecotint but an extra 3M quality film was added mainly for heat repelling properties. So still good light penetration lo...hehe... wink.gif

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my FL Exec came with Tintmaster's tint. How do you know its ecotint? I just know my roadtax had the Tintmaster's cover there. and i have a dark tint on the top of my windscreen which helps block the sunlight from up above.
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QUOTE(Aishinka @ Jun 14 2011, 02:23 PM)
my FL Exec came with Tintmaster's tint. How do you know its ecotint? I just know my roadtax had the Tintmaster's cover there. and i have a dark tint on the top of my windscreen which helps block the sunlight from up above.
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I kno it's Ecotint cos got warranty card fr Ecotint...for 5 years! So feel shld b ok lo. Rite?
Yrs dun hv meh? tongue.gif

Btw feel that front windscreen top xtra dark tint is UNbranded one. It's usually complimentary. icon_rolleyes.gif Hopefully not too low quality type. Haha! rolleyes.gif

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My saga FL came with SafeTint 5 years warranty.. Not too sure whether wanna do another tint..
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QUOTE(zeone @ Jun 14 2011, 02:31 PM)
I kno it's Ecotint cos got warranty card fr Ecotint...for 5 years! So feel shld b ok lo. Rite?
Yrs dun hv meh? tongue.gif

Btw feel that front windscreen top xtra dark tint is UNbranded one. It's usually complimentary.  icon_rolleyes.gif Hopefully not too low quality type. Haha!  rolleyes.gif
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usually is free...mine when i install my tint...the uncle ask me want or not
i said yes..since it's free..lol
he put in a very dark...those VIP uses one...that part if i put my hand...totally no heat...means high quality
main use is to block sun from your eye
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QUOTE(zeone @ Jun 14 2011, 01:54 PM)
Ya lo...since yu're gonna install a good tint finally, dun waste good $$$ on doing the cheap tint inbetween. A real waste!

Yup, go straight do the BEST tint yu can afford and dun look back! Enjoy....  rclxms.gif

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Yup. I would suggest you the same as well. Why still wanna fork out some extra money for the cheap tint first then only go for better one..? better sakit one time off. laugh.gif

RM Cheap tint+RM better tint = Good tint! tongue.gif
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QUOTE(zeone @ Jun 14 2011, 01:54 PM)
Ya lo...since yu're gonna install a good tint finally, dun waste good $$$ on doing the cheap tint inbetween. A real waste!

Yup, go straight do the BEST tint yu can afford and dun look back! Enjoy....  rclxms.gif


Added on June 14, 2011, 1:56 pmBTW my FL Exec came with Proton's Ecotint but an extra 3M quality film was added mainly for heat repelling properties. So still good light penetration lo...hehe... wink.gif
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My mom's Myvi installed a tint with NICEKOOL brand, RM900, very effective, I did not feel hot from inside, I'm gonna install to my saga soon. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(sleepwalker_00 @ Jun 14 2011, 03:06 PM)
My mom's Myvi installed a tint with NICEKOOL brand, RM900, very effective, I did not feel hot from inside, I'm gonna install to my saga soon.  biggrin.gif
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Yup. With this kinda price you can get good quality tinting already bro.
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Yup, in everything yu do, alwaz rber YOU are the Paymaster!! Yr $$$$!

So do watever makes yu happy yu got yr money's worth...not need to follow anyone wan...
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QUOTE(DaBestOne @ Jun 14 2011, 03:08 PM)
Yup. With this kinda price you can get good quality tinting already bro.
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360km then light blinking already

on a side note,

i've hit 401xx km already
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you will hit 400km...with the reserve fuel
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you will hit 400km...with the reserve fuel
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blink for more than 20km already.

if i got 390km with the light blinking, confirm 400km no prob, but this tank, i am not optimistic at all
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 14 2011, 03:38 PM)
blink for more than 20km already.

if i got 390km with the light blinking, confirm 400km no prob, but this tank, i am not optimistic at all
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The door handle on my saga broke jz now when I pulled it. I wonder is me having super human strength or that's just the quality of Proton? >_<
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QUOTE(LizStephenie @ Jun 14 2011, 04:09 PM)
The door handle on my saga broke jz now when I pulled it. I wonder is me having super human strength or that's just the quality of Proton? >_<
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the outside door handle?
that wasn't suppose to broke
i think u open the handle the wrong way....did u use the way to open this handle like the other one?
i mean how do i say this....palm is facing up...like open it like the old version handle
this handle you're suppose to put your thumb on the left side and push your thumb and at the same time pull the handle
i remember cuz the SC guy tell me be4...if u open it wrongly...the handle will broke
i saw alot of ppl still dn't know how to open this handle properly...the open it same like the old version one
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 14 2011, 04:32 PM)
the outside door handle?
that wasn't suppose to broke
i think u open the handle the wrong way....did u use the way to open this handle like the other one?
i mean how do i say this....palm is facing up...like open it like the old version handle
this handle you're suppose to put your thumb on the left side and push your thumb and at the same time pull the handle
i remember cuz the SC guy tell me be4...if u open it wrongly...the handle will broke
i saw alot of ppl still dn't know how to open this handle properly...the open it same like the old version one
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ya, agree with you... i also use your method, some people who don't know how to open, they will use 2 hands to pull the handle... mad.gif sooner my door handle will break too. sad.gif
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QUOTE(sleepwalker_00 @ Jun 14 2011, 03:17 PM)
Not sure if I remove the existing tint film, will get additional charge or not?
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some may have extra charges to remove old tint and some might not. thumbup.gif
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yep, the outside door handle...

i do realise there is two type of door handle and there are different ways to open the handle...

in my case, i'm using the right way which i put my thumb on the left side of the handle. push my thumb and pull the same time.

do any of u know how much is a door handle?
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QUOTE(sleepwalker_00 @ Jun 14 2011, 04:35 PM)
ya, agree with you... i also use your method, some people who don't know how to open, they will use 2 hands to pull the handle... mad.gif sooner my door handle will break too.  sad.gif
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even my bro also treat the new handle...open it like old method
old handle method used on this new handle is....wrap the whole hand in the middle handle...palm side up...and pull
this is wrong
correct method is...thumb is on the side smaller one...4 fingers wrap around the middle handle
push your thumb....and the 4 fingers will gently pull back...and the door is open
and BTW...the gun itself should fail 1st...cuz they use brand-less one...not the handle
this handle is to solve the problem the old version handle have....so it doesn't break


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QUOTE(LizStephenie @ Jun 14 2011, 04:41 PM)
yep, the outside door handle...

i do realise there is two type of door handle and there are different ways to open the handle...

in my case, i'm using the right way which i put my thumb on the left side of the handle. push my thumb and pull the same time.

do any of u know how much is a door handle?
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the handle should be cheap...u can ask around accesory shop
less than RM50

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 14 2011, 04:32 PM)
the outside door handle?
that wasn't suppose to broke
i think u open the handle the wrong way....did u use the way to open this handle like the other one?
i mean how do i say this....palm is facing up...like open it like the old version handle
this handle you're suppose to put your thumb on the left side and push your thumb and at the same time pull the handle
i remember cuz the SC guy tell me be4...if u open it wrongly...the handle will broke
i saw alot of ppl still dn't know how to open this handle properly...the open it same like the old version one
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Yup, there's alwaz the correct & wrong way of opening any door. However, it's "paiseh" to tell yr "passengers" how to open yr car door...unless yu wanna b like their "driver" & open for them? Haha! tongue.gif

If quality good, then also not easy to break eg Merz? However, BLM's are chromed plastic handles if not wrong...not real metal ones! Sorry... sad.gif
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QUOTE(zeone @ Jun 14 2011, 04:44 PM)
Yup, there's alwaz the correct & wrong way of opening any door. However, it's "paiseh" to tell yr "passengers" how to open yr car door...unless yu wanna b like their "driver" & open for them? Haha! tongue.gif

If quality good, then also not easy to break eg Merz? However, BLM's are chromed plastic handles if not wrong...not real metal ones!  Sorry... sad.gif
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but it's not supposed to break...the gun should go 1st
this handle's design is fail proof
never heard anyone in this forum say they broke their handle yet though
unless u really pull it too hard to twist it
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im sorry, what gun are u talking about? noobie here...
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QUOTE(LizStephenie @ Jun 14 2011, 05:01 PM)
im sorry, what gun are u talking about? noobie here...
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you can step on the car and pull the handle until cabut.. really very hard to cabut wan lor.. this guy that cabut the handle is a cow ar..? laugh.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(LizStephenie @ Jun 14 2011, 05:01 PM)
im sorry, what gun are u talking about? noobie here...
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inside the handle there is a gun
not sure how to say it....every handle inside has a gun...it's inside the door
usually it's the gun that spoil 1st...not the handle

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LizStephenie, it happened to me before.

i gave a 'gentle' pull like usual (thumb on the keyhole part, the other fingers pull) then it broke...i understand what you feel

by looking at the material, it seems tough, hard plastic. but i still wonder till why it broke.

i got my driver door handle changed for rm40 with installation without paint at service centre. i asked at paint shop, they quote me rm30 to paint the handle.

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i am ready to upgrade to 2 way alarm, any seller in kl recmmended?
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guys, thanks for the comments...
So I think I will get a good tint and apply it onto the original tint....I dont think I will be that "sui" to be blocked by JPJ ba >< finger crossed =p

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QUOTE(jerrymouse @ Jun 14 2011, 07:22 PM)
guys, thanks for the comments...
So I think I will get a good tint and apply it onto the original tint....I dont think I will be that "sui" to be blocked by JPJ ba >< finger crossed =p
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it's not "luck" problem
double tint is absolutely illegal
if tinting itself still have some limit...double tint is totally illegal


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i am ready to upgrade to 2 way alarm, any seller in kl recmmended?
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u can try EA...by howie choo and some other member
lots of good review from other ppl that install there...u can try there

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By the way guys, my estimated servicing date for 15k service is 8 JUNE by proton.
But my mileage is only 13k now. I have to service my car now or wait till 15k?
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QUOTE(rogrog @ Jun 14 2011, 07:38 PM)
By the way guys, my estimated servicing date for 15k service is 8 JUNE by proton.
But my mileage is only 13k now. I have to service my car now or wait till 15k?
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wait till reach 15k+
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QUOTE(rogrog @ Jun 14 2011, 07:38 PM)
By the way guys, my estimated servicing date for 15k service is 8 JUNE by proton.
But my mileage is only 13k now. I have to service my car now or wait till 15k?
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last service was at 10k? dun waste your engine oil..but its up to you bro
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 14 2011, 07:39 PM)
wait till reach 15k+
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QUOTE(xshiro @ Jun 14 2011, 07:40 PM)
last service was at 10k? dun waste your engine oil..but its up to you bro
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Yeap, 10k. Guess i'll wait till 15k. Thanks for the suggestion. notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 14 2011, 07:31 PM)
it's not "luck" problem
double tint is absolutely illegal
if tinting itself still have some limit...double tint is totally illegal


Added on June 14, 2011, 7:32 pm
u can try EA...by howie choo and some other member
lots of good review from other ppl that install there...u can try there
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double tint is illegal, seriously? shit that mean if I wanna put a tint which come with safety tint and heat rejection and with a good quality, it will surely cost more than 1k cry.gif

Thanks for that piece of information Mr_alien
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QUOTE(jerrymouse @ Jun 14 2011, 07:44 PM)
double tint is illegal, seriously? shit that mean if I wanna put a tint which come with safety tint and heat rejection and with a good quality, it will surely cost more than 1k  cry.gif

Thanks for that piece of information Mr_alien
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if i'm not wrong
yes...double tint is illegal
but if it's light enough...it should be ok
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double tint wont be illegal if the total tint percentage did not exceed the allowed quotation given by JPJ malaysia.
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QUOTE(SiuYi @ Jun 14 2011, 08:50 PM)
MR_alien
double tint wont be illegal if the total tint percentage did not exceed the allowed quotation given by JPJ malaysia.
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yes...i also got mentioned if it's light enough...it should be ok
this is because when u apply 2 layer...it's 2x darker
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Added on June 14, 2011, 7:32 pm
u can try EA...by howie choo and some other member
lots of good review from other ppl that install there...u can try there
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hmm, but his ah will cost total 470 leh... hmm anywhere else cheaper ah? cheapskate me LOL
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QUOTE(someone_stupid @ Jun 14 2011, 09:19 PM)
hmm, but his ah will cost total 470 leh... hmm anywhere else cheaper ah? cheapskate me LOL
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it's cheaper this way
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QUOTE(rogrog @ Jun 14 2011, 07:38 PM)
By the way guys, my estimated servicing date for 15k service is 8 JUNE by proton.
But my mileage is only 13k now. I have to service my car now or wait till 15k?
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AFAIK service intervals are acc2 Km travelled with an alternative in months. Sooner if vehicle is used in very polluted/dusty areas.

Most SCs give nxt service due as in Odometer reading ie in Km.

However, if distance travelled is very much less in spite of time passed eg 5Km or 3 mths, then the 3 mths due date is advisable.

Finally, it's also a matter of yr pocket vs yr love of yr ride... tongue.gif
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Just pumped another full tank

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 14 2011, 08:14 PM)
if i'm not wrong
yes...double tint is illegal
but if it's light enough...it should be ok
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Yup, wat is important & relevant here is not no. of layers but the VLT...yu can hv 1 layer with colour tint & 2nd layer of IR/UV reflective tint which conbined passes legal limit.
True?

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how come your saga come with ecotint?mine doesnt..so i opt for raytech..damn exp..btw my saga do come with a tint..but i dont see any ecotint warranty card
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Mine SafeTint got bubbles liao

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 14 2011, 10:29 PM)
Mine SafeTint got bubbles liao

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 14 2011, 10:32 PM)
time to change...bad workmanship
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5 years warranty, I am not going to waste it

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 14 2011, 10:36 PM)
5 years warranty, I am not going to waste it

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after few months...it's gonna come back again
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Can someone please post a picture of the 'multi purpose container' included in the higher specced FL models?

My dad just got the Executive AT model,but he has no idea which item it is. blush.gif
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 14 2011, 10:29 PM)
Mine SafeTint got bubbles liao

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wah so fast? mine also safeTint but not even half year so cannot tell whether mine will have the same fate like yrs or not ><

ericmaxman, did u put another layer of tint? or just use the original one?
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QUOTE(NewbieBetta @ Jun 14 2011, 10:22 PM)
how come your saga come with ecotint?mine doesnt..so i opt for raytech..damn exp..btw my saga do come with a tint..but i dont see any ecotint warranty card
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bro, you opt for higher spec is it..? i think tinting given during the purchase of your new car is depending on the branch or outlet wan.. different outlet may give different brand of tint. Yes, tinting 2 layer but not exceeding the VLT approved by JPJ then it shouldn't be a problem.

If you guys have 5 year warranty on the Safetint then why dun wan send it back to them and ask them fix..? brows.gif
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QUOTE(spacecopgaban @ Jun 14 2011, 10:49 PM)
Can someone please post a picture of the 'multi purpose container' included in the higher specced FL models?

My dad just got the Executive AT model,but he has no idea which item it is. blush.gif
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That item is only useful for smokers!! cry.gif
If not wrong, it's kinda deep ashtray...tall, same colour as handbrake/gearlever console...with a top with holes, etc like found in an ashtray..with a cover...
Mine came fitted into the rear drink holder behind the brake lever.

I took it out & dump it somewhere in the house...no longer in my 1.3FL Exec AT!! rclxms.gif tongue.gif rclxm9.gif
Yu see, me not a smoker...hehe... tongue.gif So sorry but kenot snap pic for reason stated above...not in car now!

ps. maybe can use as a drink container? Dunno really...sorry again! sad.gif


Added on June 14, 2011, 11:56 pmBtw fyi my Ecotint still ok...with 2nd layer of 3M on top of it! However only 2+ mths nia...
Anyone else having the Ecotint installed in their cars on delivery? Still ok? Now me getting worried la... sad.gif

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QUOTE(zeone @ Jun 14 2011, 11:51 PM)


Added on June 14, 2011, 11:56 pmBtw fyi my Ecotint still ok...with 2nd layer of 3M on top of it! However only 2+ mths nia...
Anyone else having the Ecotint installed in their cars on delivery? Still ok? Now me getting worried la... sad.gif
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the ecotint comes ori when u buy car rite..? do you have a warranty card for that..?
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QUOTE(jerrymouse @ Jun 14 2011, 10:55 PM)
wah so fast? mine also safeTint but not even half year so cannot tell whether mine will have the same fate like yrs or not ><

ericmaxman, did u put another layer of tint? or just use the original one?
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Mine came with the car.. I think hmm.gif

QUOTE(zeone @ Jun 14 2011, 11:51 PM)
That item is only useful for smokers!!  cry.gif
If not wrong, it's kinda deep ashtray...tall, same colour as handbrake/gearlever console...with a top with holes, etc like found in an ashtray..with a cover...
Mine came fitted into the rear drink holder behind the brake lever.

I took it out & dump it somewhere in the house...no longer in my 1.3FL Exec AT!! rclxms.gif  tongue.gif  rclxm9.gif
Yu see, me not a smoker...hehe... tongue.gif So sorry but kenot snap pic for reason stated above...not in car now!

ps. maybe can use as a drink container? Dunno really...sorry again! sad.gif

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Can use to keep coins ma

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QUOTE(DaBestOne @ Jun 15 2011, 07:30 AM)
the ecotint comes ori when u buy car rite..? do you have a warranty card for that..?
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Yup, it comes ori...oledi installed when took delivery of car. And yup, it came with a warranty card with date, etc written on the card. 5 years warranty. thumbup.gif

ps. Also asked Proton staff at promos in Malls....tinting is part of optional accessories package ie not the compulsory ones by law. tongue.gif


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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 15 2011, 07:43 AM)
Mine came with the car.. I think hmm.gif
Can use to keep coins ma

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Too deep for coins...susah nak keluarkan... also got obstruction at the top... sad.gif

ps. will try snap & post pic after digging item out fr my storeroom when home... icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(zeone @ Jun 15 2011, 08:37 AM)
Yup, it comes ori...oledi installed when took delivery of car. And yup, it came with a warranty card with date, etc written on the card. 5 years warranty. thumbup.gif

ps. Also asked Proton staff at promos in Malls....tinting is part of optional accessories package ie not the compulsory ones by law. tongue.gif


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Too deep for coins...susah nak keluarkan... also got obstruction at the top... sad.gif

ps. will try snap & post pic after digging item out fr my storeroom when home... icon_rolleyes.gif
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hand too big to dig the coins out? haha.. yea.. tinting is not a compulsory thingy from dealer.. normally is from 3rd party involved..
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QUOTE(xshiro @ Jun 14 2011, 03:52 PM)
yes..fill up...before its too late..3 times already my car mati on the road tongue.gif
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QUOTE(mynameisshafiq @ Jun 15 2011, 10:34 AM)
just got my new car last week!
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for saga FL medium line,
1. do they have wiring for front speaker (meaning we just add speaker to the frod door and no need wiring) and;
2. wiring for the spot light (so just add spotlight and switch)

thankss....
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can i change the front speaker to 6.5" component without cutting of the door panel? or just plug n play? afraid to openup the door panel..haha
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Hi..

I just took my new saga fl 1.3 executive auto around 3 weeks ago.Currently it reaches 1k service already.my mileage shows 1035 km.is it ok if we exceeded extra 35 km ? at the same time, my sales men who sold the card said the 1 k service will come around rm 100 + only but when i brought the car to the service center his charging rm 190.he says they are using semi synthetic oil, change oil filter then add one device for the very first 1k service.the device will absorb some metals from black oil and keep it clean.He said to me first the service all included with the device cost rm 260- 290 then i said out of budget.then he says nevermine, we do it for u for rm 190 inclusive the extra parts also.he says the rm 100+ charges is for normal black oil and theirs one is semi synthetic oil.thats why extra.so now i have to pay rm 190.i was planning to bring service after this for next 5k service outside to my mechanic.i and my family been servicing to the mechanic for 20 years only for our old cars before this.please advise me.my mechanic telling its better for the first 3 service bring to proton to avoid any warranty problem but i fell proton is overkilling in the charges.the same 1k service if i do at my mechanic going to cost rm 100+ only.bring to sc or my mechanic better and is it ok?
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warranty or few buck extra to save up, u choose.
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QUOTE(fm_hyudin @ Jun 15 2011, 12:05 PM)
Hi..

I just took my new saga fl 1.3 executive auto around 3 weeks ago.Currently it reaches 1k service already.my mileage shows 1035 km.is it ok if we exceeded extra 35 km ? at the same time, my sales men who sold the card said the 1 k service will come around rm 100 + only but when i brought the car to the service center his charging rm 190.he says they are using semi synthetic oil, change oil filter then add one device for the very first 1k service.the device will absorb some metals from black oil and keep it clean.He said to me first the service all included with the device cost rm 260- 290 then i said out of budget.then he says nevermine, we do it for u for rm 190 inclusive the extra parts also.he says the rm 100+ charges is for normal black oil and theirs one is semi synthetic oil.thats why extra.so now i have to pay rm 190.i was planning to bring service after this for next 5k service outside to my mechanic.i and my family been servicing to the mechanic for 20 years only for our old cars before this.please advise me.my mechanic telling its better for the first 3 service bring to proton to avoid any warranty problem but i fell proton is overkilling in the charges.the same 1k service if i do at my mechanic going to cost rm 100+ only.bring to sc or my mechanic better and is it ok?
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it is advisable to service yr car with Proton SC, that few extra buck is worth to spend. Touchwood u wanna claim any part for warranty,it is FOC.
Btw my first service was around RM129 like that..I think they include the price of that "absorb-device" in yr bill that is why it costRm190. If I am not mistaken all new proton car will be using Semi syn from SC during the first 3 services by default.
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bro fm_hyudin,

always refer in the first page - second post. i have added service items list and price.

now the sc add a device, which is optional. the sc want to make some profit by adding this stuff (most probably you dont need it,maybe useless). its not proton, but the service center(sc) wants to make some money

by refering the service items you will know which is required and which is optional.

you can save by servicing required items only. know your right.

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 14 2011, 10:29 PM)
Mine SafeTint got bubbles liao

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Time to look for dabestone. rclxms.gif

QUOTE(someone_stupid @ Jun 14 2011, 09:19 PM)
hmm, but his ah will cost total 470 leh... hmm anywhere else cheaper ah? cheapskate me LOL
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QUOTE(Kent Goh @ Jun 15 2011, 03:39 PM)
Time to look for dabestone.  rclxms.gif
I would said you paying for the professional knowledge, hand works & experience. Something is worth to pay if you know how to different it.
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Thanx.. Lai lai!! notworthy.gif i believe quality i what ppl looking for.
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just did my 20k service.. cost me RM460.. done at the SS2 petronas along LDP (KDU) pokai-ness... T.T

by the way, anyone using Bardahl here?
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QUOTE(lwliam @ Jun 15 2011, 07:12 PM)

by the way, anyone using Bardahl here?
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Bardahl wat? Engine oil? Oil treatment additive eg Bardahl 1?

Engine oil...no xperience...sorry. sad.gif

Oil treatment additive eg Bardahl 1...was using most of the time in my ole ride. Thinking of doing same for new 1.3FL.

However, got different views on usefulness/effectiveness on its use. Any comments fr xperience? TQ! icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(zeone @ Jun 15 2011, 07:49 PM)
Bardahl wat? Engine oil? Oil treatment additive eg Bardahl 1?

Engine oil...no xperience...sorry.  sad.gif

Oil treatment additive eg Bardahl 1...was using most of the time in my ole ride. Thinking of doing same for new 1.3FL.

However, got different views on usefulness/effectiveness on its use. Any comments fr xperience? TQ!  icon_idea.gif
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im not so sure...but i heard no need to use it for such a new car

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QUOTE(DaBestOne @ Jun 15 2011, 03:58 PM)
Thanx.. Lai lai!!  notworthy.gif i believe quality i what ppl looking for.
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wait budget allow bro~

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what is the current discount for saga? i know the rate but not the promo. anyone can advice me which dealer do u get ur saga from?
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much improvement from previous tank

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 15 2011, 08:40 PM)
much improvement from previous tank

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thn continue pumping from that station
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 15 2011, 09:01 PM)
thn continue pumping from that station
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lucky its near my house...heheheh
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 15 2011, 09:07 PM)
lucky its near my house...heheheh
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good...if u feel u can travel further from pumping from that station
u should continue pump from there
they might be giving u more fuel or mix with less water
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 15 2011, 09:22 PM)
good...if u feel u can travel further from pumping from that station
u should continue pump from there
they might be giving u more fuel or mix with less water
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mix with water?

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 15 2011, 09:23 PM)
mix with water?

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some station did mix with water to maximize profit
different station mix with different things i guess
different station mix with different amount as well
that's why FC is always different if pump from different station
so if u found a good one...continue pumping from there
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QUOTE(zeone @ Jun 15 2011, 08:37 AM)
ps. will try snap & post pic after digging item out fr my storeroom when home... icon_rolleyes.gif

Thanks zeone, I really appreciate your reply thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 15 2011, 09:26 PM)
some station did mix with water to maximize profit
different station mix with different things i guess
different station mix with different amount as well
that's why FC is always different if pump from different station
so if u found a good one...continue pumping from there
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wtf

all stations or some?

where u got this news from?



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damn...my tinting got double layer now its quite dark >< daytime still ok but when night time,cause of the silver, it becomes really dark from the outside. >< front and back still ok cause i ask the tinting shop to remove as it was bubbling but the sides...omg....
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 15 2011, 09:28 PM)
wtf

all stations or some?

where u got this news from?
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maybe all..maybe some
it's been around like that for a long time already
everybody is talking abt it...didn't u even heard abt it?
and some ppl now may say BS if i didn't saw it be4?
but around last month...i just saw it with my own eye...so it proves everyone's theory
it was a petronas station....ngam2 stop there for call and sms...and they're currectly refilling infront of me
at 1st...i wasn't paying attention at all..cuz nothing to watch...and they're refilling petrol...as it is written back of the lorry
thn after they finish refilling the tanks...they unplug the hose
pack...and looks like finish already
and just so i thought finish already...the guy from the station...not the guy driving the lorry
the guy from the station grabs a bucket...go to the pipe ...fill it up...and start pouring into the tank hose
they pour 2 1/2 bucket into it...and close the tank back
well...thank god i didn't pump at that station...but i think some other station also add water...only different amount
or they add something else...who knows?
plus they park the lorry in front of the tank hose......so directly no one can see...i saw it while my car park at the side
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 15 2011, 09:43 PM)
maybe all..maybe some
it's been around like that for a long time already
everybody is talking abt it...didn't u even heard abt it?
and some ppl now may say BS if i didn't saw it be4?
but around last month...i just saw it with my own eye...so it proves everyone's theory
it was a petronas station....ngam2 stop there for call and sms...and they're currectly refilling infront of me
at 1st...i wasn't paying attention at all..cuz nothing to watch...and they're refilling petrol...as it is written back of the lorry
thn after they finish refilling the tanks...they unplug the hose
pack...and looks like finish already
and just so i thought finish already...the guy from the station...not the guy driving the lorry
the guy from the station grabs a bucket...go to the pipe ...fill it up...and start pouring into the tank hose
they pour 2 1/2 bucket into it...and close the tank back
well...thank god i didn't pump at that station...but i think some other station also add water...only different amount
or they add something else...who knows?
plus they park the lorry in front of the tank hose......so directly no one can see...i saw it while my car park at the side
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which proves that petronas doesnt have people to spot check their stations, because bigger stations like Shell, BHP, ESSO has ppl to spot check their consistency of the petrol quality

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 15 2011, 09:45 PM)
which proves that petronas doesnt have people to spot check their stations, because bigger stations like Shell, BHP, ESSO has ppl to spot check their consistency of the petrol quality

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Any "insider" to confirm such wrong-doings?

We've all heard (and can "feel" with our cars) of such so-called "adulteration" of petrol BUT no news of any action taken...

Long ago it was with kerosene, then they coloured it...and later not worth it cos of xpensive kerosene!

Now water??? Phew! rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(kibs @ Jun 15 2011, 09:38 PM)
damn...my tinting got double layer now its quite dark >< daytime still ok but when night time,cause of the silver, it becomes really dark from the outside. >< front and back still ok cause i ask the tinting shop to remove as it was bubbling but the sides...omg....
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haha.. then why did u get double layer tinting in the first place..?
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 15 2011, 09:45 PM)
which proves that petronas doesnt have people to spot check their stations, because bigger stations like Shell, BHP, ESSO has ppl to spot check their consistency of the petrol quality

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what do u mean have ppl check their petrol quality
even station i go...even in front of my house also have a shell
when they refill...there's only the driver and the boss and maybe the station employee only
that's it...2-3 ppl


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Any "insider" to confirm such wrong-doings?

We've all heard (and can "feel" with our cars) of such so-called "adulteration" of petrol BUT no news of any action taken...

Long ago it was with kerosene, then they coloured it...and later not worth it cos of xpensive kerosene!

Now water??? Phew! rclxub.gif
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i also can feel..cuz pumped from different station...the engine noise also different
some when u pump...the engine very silent...some noisy like nobodys business
kerosene is to increase the octane...is it?...but water doesn't
water is to make it look like u have more fuel...to maximize profit

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 15 2011, 10:07 PM)
what do u mean have ppl check their petrol quality
even station i go...even in front of my house also have a shell
when they refill...there's only the driver and the boss and maybe the station employee only
that's it...2-3 ppl
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the spot check is random checks conducted by people from the HQ
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 15 2011, 10:14 PM)
the spot check is random checks conducted by people from the HQ
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no oh...here no
when car comes...just the driver...sometime have a helper with him
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Thanks zeone, I really appreciate your reply thumbup.gif
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Below are pics of the multipurpose container accessory (incl in FL Exec AT) as "promised"...?
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So is it an ashtray? Can put coins? Or what else can it be used for? Any ideas...suggestions? ATM it is useless for me... sad.gif

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QUOTE(zeone @ Jun 15 2011, 11:02 PM)
Below are pics of the multipurpose container accessory (incl in FL Exec AT) as "promised"...?
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So is it an ashtray? Can put coins? Or what else can it be used for? Any ideas...suggestions? ATM it is useless for me... sad.gif
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when I bought my car, the salesman told me it is a ashtray but it can be used as multipurpose, coin, etc. i use it to put my petrol receipt so that every month I can track how much I put hehe


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no oh...here no
when car comes...just the driver...sometime have a helper with him
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This petrol with water issue has been around for a loooooong time liao leh..I bet u r "lucky" Mr_alien to be able to witness those ppl to pour water into the thank, at the mean time r those ppl dump to pour water into the tank in the public ? They don't scare ppl complain ah ? LOL

I am experienced this same issue once, maybe u guys hear b4..it happened way back ~10 years ago at Sri Manjung, Perak , anyone know this place? There is one Petronas station there,I think they refill too much of water and at the end 5 user's (I think if not mistaken) car which ONLY pump their petrol log a complain when their car acting weird after pumping the petrol for quite sometime and end up engine totally 'kong'. 5 of the car was checked and verified that it was due to the petrol which contain high level of foreign substance aka water. The owner of the petrol station was sued and paid the owners compensation. The petrol station was then closed down for awhile but not quite long later, it resume operation shakehead.gif Until today they are still ppl putting petrol from that station despite this incident. blink.gif

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tried refilling from petronas today. felt not as powerful as shell, but it could bring my FL to 172km/h max speed. o.o.. shell 95 only gave me up to 165km/h max speed.
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QUOTE(Aishinka @ Jun 16 2011, 01:05 AM)
tried refilling from petronas today. felt not as powerful as shell, but it could bring my FL to 172km/h max speed. o.o.. shell 95 only gave me up to 165km/h max speed.
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I've tried bhp, petronas, shell.. all also almost the same only.. hmm.. bhp give better power i think.. and all of it are not giving me any extra mileage.. petronas make my car feel lighter.. shell also felt like more lighter but just dun really feel the power.. n all of them r claiming this and that.. just purely LPPL.. think just fill up 95 to keep the car moving.. forget about what extra power or extra mileage..
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im getting good mileage with petronas. currently clocked in at 254km with 2 bars remaining. should be able to hit 350km before reserve fuel comes out.
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QUOTE(jerrymouse @ Jun 16 2011, 12:14 AM)

This petrol with water issue has been around for a loooooong time liao leh..I bet u r "lucky" Mr_alien to be able to witness those ppl to pour water into the thank, at the mean time r those ppl dump to pour water into the tank in the public ? They don't scare ppl complain ah ? LOL

I am experienced this same issue once, maybe u guys hear b4..it happened way back ~10 years ago at Sri Manjung, Perak , anyone know this place? There is one Petronas station there,I think they refill too much of water and at the end 5 user's (I think if not mistaken) car which ONLY pump their petrol log a complain when their car acting weird after pumping the petrol for quite sometime and end up engine totally 'kong'. 5 of the car was checked and verified that it was due to the petrol which contain high level of foreign substance aka water. The owner of the petrol station was sued and paid the owners compensation. The petrol station was then closed down for awhile but not quite long later, it resume operation  shakehead.gif  Until today they are still ppl putting petrol from that station despite this incident.  blink.gif
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of course they're not scared....no proof also
even have proof...they also can say is other things...blah blah blah
as long they dn't put over amount of water...i think for them sure no problem
as long as they can maximize their profit out of it...
but different station do it different way....or add different amount of it
so i always advice ppl..if u found that certain station gives u good FC or engine more silent there
keep pumping from that station....i'm guessing they didn't add anything into it
some station ...once pump, start the engine, the engine is especially loud and the FC really sucks
those station..i won't go back anymore
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Good morning BLM-ers

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Interesting read regarding petrol used.

Here.

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Conclusion

The results from my ‘experiment” did confirm my initial belief that there is little differences between petrol brands. For the distance I normally travel in a day (about 95 km per day), this belief is verified. At this distance, there is little difference between petrol brands.

However, unexpectedly, different petrol brands would give a different FC depending on the distance travelled. The results showed that for the lowest FC, Shell is most suitable for city driving (e.g., roads with heavy traffic) but Petronas is most suited for highway driving (e.g., outstation driving).

So perhaps Malaysians do have it right on the best petrol brands (Shell and Petronas) to use for their cars.
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 16 2011, 09:22 AM)
Interesting read regarding petrol used.

Here.
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i think for highway is bhp hmm.gif
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QUOTE(sg999 @ Jun 16 2011, 08:34 AM)
i think for highway is bhp hmm.gif
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what about city driving? hybrid? laugh.gif coz too many jam any can only drive below 40kmh..?
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How about Caltex? Seems nobody was discussing about this...I feel Caltex's fuel consumption is not good, about 70km will drop 1 level out of 6, i used to drive on highway.
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juz got my car, sent to proton bcoz got prob wif lower arm... kena RM165.30.. hehehehehe
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Interesting article. Incidentally, I find myself using Petronas over short distances. I don't think I travel more than 50km a day, on avg. sad.gif

QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 15 2011, 10:24 PM)
no oh...here no
when car comes...just the driver...sometime have a helper with him
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I think he means that every once in a while, a fuel inspector will come over, take some fuel samples and check the quality of the fuel.

QUOTE(omara86 @ Jun 16 2011, 09:28 AM)
juz got my car, sent to proton bcoz got prob wif lower arm... kena RM165.30.. hehehehehe
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Ouch. What were the symptoms of this problem?
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QUOTE(omara86 @ Jun 16 2011, 09:28 AM)
juz got my car, sent to proton bcoz got prob wif lower arm... kena RM165.30.. hehehehehe
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waa.. new car and got prob with arm and then kena charge summore? whats the reason? u take go sepang test drive ar bro..? laugh.gif
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Ouch. What were the symptoms of this problem?
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got metal hitting sound when u accelerate and braking... sound coming from the front shaft area...


QUOTE(DaBestOne @ Jun 16 2011, 09:42 AM)
waa.. new car and got prob with arm and then kena charge summore? whats the reason? u take go sepang test drive ar bro..?  laugh.gif
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my own fault, everyday drive macam orang gila, but the prob not from driving style.. it start from faulty absorber, it was last gawai holiday, i drive back to wife's kampung (6 hour drive)... otw there my absorber got bunyi alrdy, rosak bcoz of potholes and i never slowdown, juz hit the holes.. i cont driving using faulty absorber... when going back home few days later... another sound coming up... lower arm bushing will wear out if u're driving on faulty absorber...

so owez keep in mind, if absorber rosak, go change it, dun wait until lower arm bush rosak..
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QUOTE(omara86 @ Jun 16 2011, 10:02 AM)
got metal hitting sound when u accelerate and braking... sound coming from the front shaft area...
my own fault, everyday drive macam orang gila, but the prob not from driving style.. it start from faulty absorber, it was last gawai holiday, i drive back to wife's kampung (6 hour drive)... otw there my absorber got bunyi alrdy, rosak bcoz of potholes and i never slowdown, juz hit the holes.. i cont driving using faulty absorber... when going back home few days later... another sound coming up... lower arm bushing will wear out if u're driving on faulty absorber...

so owez keep in mind, if absorber rosak, go change it, dun wait until lower arm bush rosak..
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thanx for the info bro.. but even new car the absorber rosak also no warranty for that..?
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QUOTE(DaBestOne @ Jun 16 2011, 10:08 AM)
thanx for the info bro.. but even new car the absorber rosak also no warranty for that..?
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absorber is wear n tear... unless it rosak to early, like below 1 year mayb... mine alrdy 1 yr & half.. alrdy changed to sport suspension summore.. hehehehe
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QUOTE(DaBestOne @ Jun 16 2011, 09:42 AM)
waa.. new car and got prob with arm and then kena charge summore? whats the reason? u take go sepang test drive ar bro..?  laugh.gif
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Dun think new car or else covered by warranty. Dun think our fren wld pay if new & under warranty. True?


Added on June 16, 2011, 1:01 pmSorry...my bad! Din get 2read latest posts!

Yup, when suspension mod oledi eg springs or abs, then warrany is void!! sad.gif

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I think he means that every once in a while, a fuel inspector will come over, take some fuel samples and check the quality of the fuel.
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Yu call that "kesian"?? Yu shld feel very proud that those 2 "loveflies(?)" chose yr ride 2b their ride!! Haha!
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sex on my car when i myself also belum....

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gosh...my car safe tint started to have bubble now...at rear windscreen, maybe i used to switch on the heater every morning. doh.gif
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Just collected my new saga fl exec 1.3 auto. Pump 30 buck Mobil 95 and drive around town. so far :

-engine sound minimal
-no knocking sound
-no sound from absober
-door closed no problem
-Braking working fine, though the step abit compare to my old wira
-alarm ok.
-stereo good.
-very cool aircon
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Now happily removing all the plastic cover.

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QUOTE(mysoo @ Jun 16 2011, 09:41 PM)
Just collected my new saga fl exec 1.3 auto. Pump 30 buck Mobil 95 and drive around town. so far :

-engine sound minimal
-no knocking sound
-no sound from absober
-door closed no problem
-Braking working fine, though the step abit compare to my old wira
-alarm ok.
-stereo good.
-very cool aircon
-Acceleration quiet the same as my old wira 1.5 auto. surge in power after i
floor it above 3.5k.

Now happily removing all the plastic cover.
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When i'm releasing my cluth, got chirping sound came out.. When i'm fully press or fully release the clutch, no sound... Only when in d middle... Refer dis vid, made juz now, while reversing...


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QUOTE(mysoo @ Jun 16 2011, 09:41 PM)
Just collected my new saga fl exec 1.3 auto. Pump 30 buck Mobil 95 and drive around town. so far :

-engine sound minimal
-no knocking sound
-no sound from absober
-door closed no problem
-Braking working fine, though the step abit compare to my old wira
-alarm ok.
-stereo good.
-very cool aircon
-Acceleration quiet the same as my old wira 1.5 auto. surge in power after i
floor it above 3.5k.

Now happily removing all the plastic cover.
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Unfortunately there will alwaz b those ppl who do not take their work seriously nor understand the implications of their slack in their responsibilities ie not working for what they are being paid to do!

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Just wanna share with u guys =)

Got my car to the Puchong SC, one problem solved (well not 100% bcz I still can hear some tok tok sound but not as bad as b4) which make me worry free now hehe. The mechanic told me it was the Fender which causing the problem, thus knocking the tyre and causes some 'knocking sound'. However the pedal vibration is still there, so 50% of the total problem still there but I am glad that this SC can rectify the knocking problem where the others SC I went couldn't. I will go back to this SC for sure =) and their service is good 9/10 ( one lady come to me and ask me if I am thirsty, she then makes some milo and give it to me personally, first time I see such service) 2 thumbs up.

Not to forget u guys here in this forum, thanks for the help and heads up, u guys rockzz!!!
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QUOTE(DaBestOne @ Jun 15 2011, 10:07 PM)
haha.. then why did u get double layer tinting in the first place..?
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QUOTE(jerrymouse @ Jun 16 2011, 10:24 PM)
Just wanna share with u guys =)

Got my car to the Puchong SC, one problem solved (well not 100% bcz I still can hear some tok tok sound but not as bad as b4) which make me worry free now hehe. The mechanic told me it was the Fender which causing the problem, thus knocking the tyre and causes some 'knocking sound'. However the pedal vibration is still there, so 50% of the total problem still there but I am glad that this SC can rectify the knocking problem where the others SC I went couldn't. I will go back to this SC for sure =) and their service is good 9/10 ( one lady come to me and ask me if I am thirsty, she then makes some milo and give it to me personally, first time I see such service) 2 thumbs up.

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QUOTE(jerrymouse @ Jun 16 2011, 12:14 AM)
when I bought my car, the salesman told me it is a ashtray but it can be used as multipurpose, coin, etc. i use it to put my petrol receipt so that every month I can track how much I put hehe


Added on June 16, 2011, 12:26 am

This petrol with water issue has been around for a loooooong time liao leh..I bet u r "lucky" Mr_alien to be able to witness those ppl to pour water into the thank, at the mean time r those ppl dump to pour water into the tank in the public ? They don't scare ppl complain ah ? LOL

I am experienced this same issue once, maybe u guys hear b4..it happened way back ~10 years ago at Sri Manjung, Perak , anyone know this place? There is one Petronas station there,I think they refill too much of water and at the end 5 user's (I think if not mistaken) car which ONLY pump their petrol log a complain when their car acting weird after pumping the petrol for quite sometime and end up engine totally 'kong'. 5 of the car was checked and verified that it was due to the petrol which contain high level of foreign substance aka water. The owner of the petrol station was sued and paid the owners compensation. The petrol station was then closed down for awhile but not quite long later, it resume operation  shakehead.gif  Until today they are still ppl putting petrol from that station despite this incident.  blink.gif
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may i have the exact address for this puchong SC?
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Proton Edar Sdn Bhd
Service centre Puchong
No 6 & 8, Jalan Serindit 3
Bandar Puchong Jaya
47100 Puchong Selangor


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QUOTE(kibs @ Jun 16 2011, 10:47 PM)
hahaha should film and send to Petronas HQ  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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I was around 13 or 14 years old that time, dont really know "why engine kong" also that time hahaha
but it was on the chinese news paper i remembered.


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gosh...my car safe tint started to have bubble now...at rear windscreen, maybe i used to switch on the heater every morning.  doh.gif
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doesnt really affect the tinting wan la i think.. if like that then alot of cars also will get bubbles lor..
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doesnt really affect the tinting wan la i think.. if like that then alot of cars also will get bubbles lor..
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Dun think using rear demister wld cause that. I had 3M tint on all windows for myvold ride. I also used the demister quite often. No bubbles.

The only effect (after >15 years) was the lines of the heater element became more "prominent"...

IMHO Bubbling mainly due2 poor quality tint +/- poor workmanship? wink.gif
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mine have been using abt 3 yrs and no bubble at all..cheap type rm199..
i think workmanship matters.
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IMO, bubble is 10% workmanship, 10% luck and 80% tint quality. i saw some aeroback wiras and kancils got plenty of bubble tints at the rear windscreen, duno is fashion or what.
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so far i never kena bubbles on tint... alrdy more than 5 times changing tint (from my kelisa to my saga)... depend on shop also... my place here so gooding... kuching ppl shud know, the name is Wawasan..
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that 1 my febret shop for tintings.
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QUOTE(AmeiN @ Jun 16 2011, 10:04 AM)
1 bar oni get 80km....damn penang.... now even more damn cause much road being close for repairing..  doh.gif  mad.gif    vmad.gif
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Haiyah sabar lah. Once the roads are reopened it'll be nice and smooth rclxms.gif I appreciate that the island's roads are so much better than Prai thumbup.gif

80 km per bar is very good.. I only get about 65-70 each. But then again the gauge may not be very accurate unsure.gif

Oh last night there was someone blaring their foglights at me. I was thinking what the hell car is this... then it overtook me. Turned out to be a FL Executive, rock blue blush.gif But the original BLM's foglights aren't as glary hmm.gif

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QUOTE(zeone @ Jun 17 2011, 08:15 AM)
Dun think using rear demister wld cause that. I had 3M tint on all windows for myvold ride. I also used the demister quite often. No bubbles.

The only effect (after >15 years) was the lines of the heater element became more "prominent"...

IMHO Bubbling mainly due2 poor quality tint +/- poor workmanship? wink.gif
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The bubbles appear on the yellow lines of rear windscreen, that's why i suspect is caused by demister? lol.
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QUOTE(Esteemed One @ Jun 17 2011, 10:32 AM)
80 per bar is quite good.

My one:

Top bar = 45km-50km
Second bar = 80km-100km
Third bar = 60km
Fourth bar = 30-40km
Last bar = 10km

By the time fourth bar, the refill oil signal start to pop up.
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Different FC shown at different fuel gauge bars probably due2 shape of fuel tank...my 2 sen nia. wink.gif


Added on June 17, 2011, 11:33 amYup, sleepwalker, probably true. But if tint more than 5 years (mine >15) then time 2change.

If tint & workmanship high stds then mayb lasts longer. Other factors come into play as well eg length of time each time demister switched on, etc.

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Just done my 5k service @ SS14 subang jaya branch. I'd say its pretty fast. <30minutes done. Great, except, i had my LED lights smashed, about 5cm length smashed. Cause of the jack that lifted my car cry.gif

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QUOTE(sleepwalker_00 @ Jun 17 2011, 11:23 AM)
The bubbles appear on the yellow lines of rear windscreen, that's why i suspect is caused by demister? lol.
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or it might be the the quality of the tint film.. but that would be really bad quality already..
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or it might be the the quality of the tint film.. but that would be really bad quality already..
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My car already 1 year old, it's time to change new tint, i noticed most of the cars which have bubble, are coming from rear windscreen.
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QUOTE(sleepwalker_00 @ Jun 17 2011, 11:23 AM)
The bubbles appear on the yellow lines of rear windscreen, that's why i suspect is caused by demister? lol.
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Demister is one of the fact i think, + the workmen ship and quality is suck...mine 1 year 9 months BLM also grow bubble started from demister line...for me good also la, peel off itself, so next time want to remove less harmful to the demister line.. thumbup.gif
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Just gotten my car not too long ago, what kinda specs should share out?
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for me...the bubbles is all cause by workmanship
the one that install doesn't put their time in using the hot gun to remove the bubble
if the workmanship is good mean he puts his time on using the heat gun...the bubbles won't appear
that's why i always say dn't let those young guy that install whole car by 30 minutes touch your car...they only heat it for only awhile
my car is slowly install by the guy..using the heat gun from 8AM till 3PM only finish
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now I am really in a dilemma whether to put on a new tint or leave it with the stock tint for 1-2 years before changing it to a new one...

didn't know that saga FL comes with tint.. and the SA gave me tint voucher which i now find it abit rugi..
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want to ask for Saga auto, the gears always change at 2krpm?
with light foot strength on the pedal (using D), 1st, 2nd, 3rd,etc gears all change at 2krpm.. then pedal to the medal (using D), at 4.0-4.5krpm change..

unless i use a the "manual" way L, 2, 3 then D, then i can rev up to 5+krpm with medium foot strength.. Car needs tuning a little? Naik Genting using D, will force me to use L, 2, and then 3... mahfan wei =(


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QUOTE(vostro @ Jun 17 2011, 02:14 PM)
now I am really in a dilemma whether to put on a new tint or leave it with the stock tint for 1-2 years before changing it to a new one...

didn't know that saga FL comes with tint.. and the SA gave me tint voucher which i now find it abit rugi..
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Stock tint is not that good... i'd suggest you use the voucher and get a security tint up to 80% IR block, BEST! rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(jeffro @ Jun 17 2011, 02:16 PM)
want to ask for Saga auto, the gears always change at 2krpm?
with light foot strength on the pedal (using D), 1st, 2nd, 3rd,etc gears all change at 2krpm.. then pedal to the medal (using D), at 4.0-4.5krpm change..

unless i use a the "manual" way L, 2, 3 then D, then i can rev up to 5+krpm with medium foot strength.. Car needs tuning a little? Naik Genting using D, will force me to use L, 2, and then 3... mahfan wei =(


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Stock tint is not that good... i'd suggest you use the voucher and get a security tint up to 80% IR block, BEST!  rclxms.gif
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normal is 2-2.2k RPM
if u wanna rev higher thn rev high until the RPM u want then release abit of your leg and it will switch gear
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QUOTE(jeffro @ Jun 17 2011, 02:16 PM)
....Naik Genting using D, will force me to use L, 2, and then 3... mahfan wei =(
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Kenot use "D" up Genting all the way meh? Mayb change to "2" or "L" on steeper slopes?
Anyone tried it? icon_idea.gif wink.gif
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 17 2011, 02:19 PM)
normal is 2-2.2k RPM
if u wanna rev higher thn rev high until the RPM u want then release abit of your leg and it will switch gear
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ohhh.. then i think when i sat in my friend's saga, he must have tuned or something, my friend's saga BLM, normal is 3-3.5k just on light pedal, then pedal to the medal get 6krpm @_@ feel the umph when press so much! but i scared later my engine runaway from the chassis rclxm9.gif


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Kenot use "D" up Genting all the way meh? Mayb change to "2" or "L" on steeper slopes?
Anyone tried it? icon_idea.gif wink.gif
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cannot use D naik genting like snail/turtle going uphill... at the corners, i need to get down to L step until get 5krpm then go 2 just to get the uphill flow smoothly... before finally switching 3 (as and when possible)... maybe my car still new.. dunno sweat.gif

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QUOTE(vostro @ Jun 17 2011, 02:14 PM)
now I am really in a dilemma whether to put on a new tint or leave it with the stock tint for 1-2 years before changing it to a new one...

didn't know that saga FL comes with tint.. and the SA gave me tint voucher which i now find it abit rugi..
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I can say stock tint is quite useless, it can't resist heat at all, and the tint voucher is totally rubbish, the SA already pakat with tint shop, they just want to trick you only.

Better go to other tint shop and install a good tint. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(jeffro @ Jun 17 2011, 02:32 PM)
ohhh.. then i think when i sat in my friend's saga, he must have tuned or something, my friend's saga BLM, normal is 3-3.5k just on light pedal, then pedal to the medal get 6krpm @_@ feel the umph when press so much! but i scared later my engine runaway from the chassis  rclxm9.gif


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cannot use D naik genting like snail/turtle going uphill... at the corners, i need to get down to L step until get 5krpm then go 2 just to get the uphill flow smoothly... before finally switching 3 (as and when possible)... maybe my car still new.. dunno  sweat.gif
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he didn't tuned anything...he just step harder....
with 3-3.5K RPM..his FC must be quiet worst
ask him change his engine stoke to 1.6L..should solve the problem
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QUOTE(jeffro @ Jun 17 2011, 02:16 PM)
want to ask for Saga auto, the gears always change at 2krpm?
with light foot strength on the pedal (using D), 1st, 2nd, 3rd,etc gears all change at 2krpm.. then pedal to the medal (using D), at 4.0-4.5krpm change..

unless i use a the "manual" way L, 2, 3 then D, then i can rev up to 5+krpm with medium foot strength.. Car needs tuning a little? Naik Genting using D, will force me to use L, 2, and then 3... mahfan wei =(


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Stock tint is not that good... i'd suggest you use the voucher and get a security tint up to 80% IR block, BEST!  rclxms.gif
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yep. thats what i heard. saga stock tint is not good. get faded and bubbles after awhile.. going for 2nd layer over the stock tinting is not recommended.. lol.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(DaBestOne @ Jun 17 2011, 02:58 PM)
yep. thats what i heard. saga stock tint is not good. get faded and bubbles after awhile.. going for 2nd layer over the stock tinting is not recommended.. lol..  tongue.gif
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that's becuz they tint it so many car 2gather
they have to do it fast...so 1 car they install takes how long...u should know
so that's why bubbles and fade comes
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QUOTE(DaBestOne @ Jun 17 2011, 02:58 PM)
yep. thats what i heard. saga stock tint is not good. get faded and bubbles after awhile.. going for 2nd layer over the stock tinting is not recommended.. lol..  tongue.gif
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Ah I see.. Thanks all for the feedback. will checkout some tint shop.. anyone got suggestion of tintshop in klang valley area which has good workmanship?

The voucher i have is from Cool World.. is it any good?
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 17 2011, 02:44 PM)
he didn't tuned anything...he just step harder....
with 3-3.5K RPM..his FC must be quiet worst
ask him change his engine stoke to 1.6L..should solve the problem
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no wor, cos step harder can feel the car go faster in a shorter time, but light strength on it, the car can go up to 3-3.5K RPM.. dunno about FC but I sure can utilize a higher RPM change (back in manual, feel got greater control >.<")

Sigh the 1.6 saga came in 1.5weeks after I bought my 1.3 saga shocking.gif
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QUOTE(jeffro @ Jun 17 2011, 02:16 PM)
want to ask for Saga auto, the gears always change at 2krpm?
with light foot strength on the pedal (using D), 1st, 2nd, 3rd,etc gears all change at 2krpm.. then pedal to the medal (using D), at 4.0-4.5krpm change..

unless i use a the "manual" way L, 2, 3 then D, then i can rev up to 5+krpm with medium foot strength.. Car needs tuning a little? Naik Genting using D, will force me to use L, 2, and then 3... mahfan wei =(


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Stock tint is not that good... i'd suggest you use the voucher and get a security tint up to 80% IR block, BEST!  rclxms.gif
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mine gear change can happen at range of 2k-2.3k rpm with extremely light foot. flooring the pedal, gear change at 6.3k rpm. my average driving style now is gear change at 2.4k-2.7k rpm. FL auto.
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QUOTE(jeffro @ Jun 17 2011, 03:40 PM)
no wor, cos step harder can feel the car go faster in a shorter time, but light strength on it, the car can go up to 3-3.5K RPM.. dunno about FC but I sure can utilize a higher RPM change (back in manual, feel got greater control >.<")

Sigh the 1.6 saga came in 1.5weeks after I bought my 1.3 saga  shocking.gif
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now also u can upgrade
just change the stroke to 1.6 only
that's the only difference between the 1.3 and 1.6 model as well
everything else is the same
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 17 2011, 03:47 PM)
now also u can upgrade
just change the stroke to 1.6 only
that's the only difference between the 1.3 and 1.6 model as well
everything else is the same
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Bro, still got ECU need to change, not as easy as u think...
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 17 2011, 03:47 PM)
now also u can upgrade
just change the stroke to 1.6 only
that's the only difference between the 1.3 and 1.6 model as well
everything else is the same
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what is 'stroke' ? can enlight me? I dont plan to change my car though tongue.gif just wanna know what is it. I thought 1.6L engine is totally diff with 1.3L engine, no?
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car masuk workshop again.

was driving to COE this morning when it just died.

cant even crank. swapped battery also same.

fuse blew each time i changed, could be something shorted =\

no car for the weekend it seem sad.gif
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QUOTE(Aishinka @ Jun 17 2011, 03:41 PM)
mine gear change can happen at range of 2k-2.3k rpm with extremely light foot. flooring the pedal, gear change at 6.3k rpm. my average driving style now is gear change at 2.4k-2.7k rpm. FL auto.
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Ooo just medium foot eh? Well I'll need to get used to below 3k rpm tongue.gif


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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 17 2011, 03:47 PM)
now also u can upgrade
just change the stroke to 1.6 only
that's the only difference between the 1.3 and 1.6 model as well
everything else is the same
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How to change the stroke? Will void warranty? sweat.gif

QUOTE(coolkwc @ Jun 17 2011, 04:04 PM)
Bro, still got ECU need to change, not as easy as u think...
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How to do? I thought need to change engine wan? but it's expensive icon_question.gif

QUOTE(jerrymouse @ Jun 17 2011, 04:14 PM)
what is 'stroke' ? can enlight me? I dont plan to change my car though  tongue.gif just wanna know what is it. I thought 1.6L engine is totally diff with 1.3L engine, no?
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Yea I also want to know biggrin.gif

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Haiyah sabar lah. Once the roads are reopened it'll be nice and smooth rclxms.gif I appreciate that the island's roads are so much better than Prai thumbup.gif

80 km per bar is very good.. I only get about 65-70 each. But then again the gauge may not be very accurate unsure.gif

Oh last night there was someone blaring their foglights at me. I was thinking what the hell car is this... then it overtook me. Turned out to be a FL Executive, rock blue blush.gif But the original BLM's foglights aren't as glary hmm.gif
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QUOTE(sleepwalker_00 @ Jun 17 2011, 01:12 PM)
My car already 1 year old, it's time to change new tint, i noticed most of the cars which have bubble, are coming from rear windscreen.
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Ya, me too...bubble stat appear...1 year old. doh.gif

QUOTE(DaBestOne @ Jun 17 2011, 02:58 PM)
yep. thats what i heard. saga stock tint is not good. get faded and bubbles after awhile.. going for 2nd layer over the stock tinting is not recommended.. lol..  tongue.gif
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Get penang branch la bro.......haha thumbup.gif
Really malas one to do survey n oso dunno which GOOD WORKMANSHIP tint shop at penang as u all said need good workmanship.
Wrong choice $$$$$ melayang.

QUOTE(jeffro @ Jun 17 2011, 05:09 PM)

Yea I also want to know  biggrin.gif
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GOOGLE!

Stroke

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 17 2011, 04:44 PM)
car masuk workshop again.

was driving to COE this morning when it just died.

cant even crank. swapped battery also same.

fuse blew each time i changed, could be something shorted =\

no car for the weekend it seem sad.gif
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Oh? So sorry 2hear dat... sad.gif

Which fuse blew? Each time yu changed battery? Dat wld b an indication of source of prob...
Hope yu sort it out soon...
Yup, no car = no legs! sad.gif
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QUOTE(AmeiN @ Jun 17 2011, 05:49 PM)
GOOGLE!

Stroke
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but how to change it from 1.3 to 1.6? a bit lost here... i noob in car parts cry.gif
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stroke what? haha...ok
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my SA gave me raytech voucher,so far so cool..security film lowest spec after discount voucher is RM600, just 60% heat rejection on all side include rear & front..its already not bad.

75% or 85% is even better I can say.
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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Jun 17 2011, 04:04 PM)
Bro, still got ECU need to change, not as easy as u think...
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really?...i thought only the stroke is different
the GB all is the same
ya i think ECU need to change
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 17 2011, 06:58 PM)
really?...i thought only the stroke is different
the GB all is the same
ya i think ECU need to change
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anyone else has idea on how much it'll cost to change the stroke, ecu, etc needed?
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2500 - 3000 rm...
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QUOTE(zeone @ Jun 17 2011, 06:03 PM)
Oh? So sorry 2hear dat... sad.gif

Which fuse blew? Each time yu changed battery? Dat wld b an indication of source of prob...
Hope yu sort it out soon...
Yup, no car = no legs!  sad.gif
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Din notice which fuse was it.

Changed battery, but still the same, no cranking sound at all.


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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 17 2011, 07:13 PM)
Din notice which fuse was it.

Changed battery, but still the same, no cranking sound at all.
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yours is manual...right?
i encounter no cranking sound be4...that was when i was enganged in "D"
didn't notice anything...around 15 min later only found out i engaged to wrong gear
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 17 2011, 07:22 PM)
yours is manual...right?
i encounter no cranking sound be4...that was when i was enganged in "D"
didn't notice anything...around 15 min later only found out i engaged to wrong gear
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hahah..my dad's car also same thing..left in "D"
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 17 2011, 07:13 PM)
Din notice which fuse was it.

Changed battery, but still the same, no cranking sound at all.
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grounding problem? maybe ground cable loose?
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QUOTE(ka_one2000 @ Jun 17 2011, 08:14 PM)
grounding problem? maybe ground cable loose?
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well, according to xshiro, most likely is that after my IAFM service, the wire from starter/alternator touching the driveshaft, hence causing the fuse to blow
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just fix r3 spoiler on my manual blm...

black spoiler on white blm manual mline...
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just fix r3 spoiler on my manual blm...

black spoiler on white blm manual mline...
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QUOTE(AmeiN @ Jun 17 2011, 11:22 PM)
Take a snap n post it here la bro.... mayb can racun som1... brows.gif  thumbup.gif
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good idea bro.. racun racun is wat ppl do here.. haha..  laugh.gif
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just get my 1st fuel consumption, pump in full tank and left 1bar without low fuel indicator light up, manage to get 307km, auto.

I dont keep my rpm below 3k,i rev when necessary up till 4.5k~5k
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QUOTE(NewbieBetta @ Jun 18 2011, 12:49 AM)
just get my 1st fuel consumption, pump in full tank and left 1bar without low fuel indicator light up, manage to get 307km, auto.

I dont keep my rpm below 3k,i rev when necessary up till 4.5k~5k
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city drive? or highway?
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QUOTE(Aishinka @ Jun 18 2011, 02:24 AM)
city drive? or highway?
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city i guess?
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city 60% highway 40%,everyday jam puchong-sunway toll

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Below are pics of the multipurpose container accessory (incl in FL Exec AT) as "promised"...?
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Found the way to post a bigger pic...hehe... rclxm9.gif
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So is it an ashtray? Can put coins? Or what else can it be used for? Any ideas...suggestions? ATM it is useless for me... sad.gif
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waffakkkk ! pumped shell 95 yesterday. after 31.8km the first bar dropped already. kept my rpm below 3k all the time. drove around subang yesterday only. =.=
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QUOTE(Aishinka @ Jun 18 2011, 03:32 PM)
waffakkkk ! pumped shell 95 yesterday. after 31.8km the first bar dropped already. kept my rpm below 3k all the time. drove around subang yesterday only. =.=
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 16 2011, 06:10 PM)
its insanity!!

sex on my car when i myself also belum....

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
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did ur miror get wet?lol rclxms.gif


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QUOTE(DaBestOne @ Jun 16 2011, 10:22 AM)
what about city driving? hybrid?  laugh.gif coz too many jam any can only drive below 40kmh..?
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avoid city drive is the best solution icon_rolleyes.gif


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QUOTE(sleepwalker_00 @ Jun 16 2011, 10:27 AM)
How about Caltex? Seems nobody was discussing about this...I feel Caltex's fuel consumption is not good, about 70km will drop 1 level out of 6, i used to drive on highway.
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agree
i used caltex driving highway
95km drop 1st bar
i use bhp 120km drop 1st bar
quite obvious shakehead.gif

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QUOTE(Aishinka @ Jun 18 2011, 02:32 PM)
waffakkkk ! pumped shell 95 yesterday. after 31.8km the first bar dropped already. kept my rpm below 3k all the time. drove around subang yesterday only. =.=
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1 of all is the station...they give u less petrol
2 is that shell really sucks...it really is
even i dn't go shell anymore...i pump esso and recently petronas
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think i should boycott that particular station. normally pump shell at ss15 behind MCD drive thru. last night pumped at ss19's shoplots. damn wth.
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QUOTE(omara86 @ Jun 16 2011, 10:04 PM)
Hav any of u guys ever kena like me? I baru sedar juz now...

When i'm releasing my cluth, got chirping sound came out.. When i'm fully press or fully release the clutch, no sound... Only when in d middle... Refer dis vid, made juz now, while reversing...


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Refering to above problem, as advised by siuyi, it's belting prob, so i go to workshop and change my belting, terkejut beruk juz now bcoz i dunno dat blm using single belting for alternator, aircond n hydrolic, i tot like old car use 3 diff belting 1... So panjang the belting...

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QUOTE(omara86 @ Jun 18 2011, 03:42 PM)
Refering to above problem, as advised by siuyi, it's belting prob, so i go to workshop and change my belting, terkejut beruk juz now bcoz i dunno dat blm using single belting for alternator, aircond n hydrolic, i tot like old car use 3 diff belting 1... So panjang the belting...

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Helooo..
I'm just booked 1.6FL, waiting for registeration on 24 june 2011. so tempting to drive her.. drool.gif
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QUOTE(sam9557 @ Jun 18 2011, 05:44 PM)
Helooo..
I'm just booked 1.6FL, waiting for registeration on 24 june 2011. so tempting to drive her.. drool.gif
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i wanna drive a 1.6L FL as well...just to know how it feels
it must feel great...no more underpower problems
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 18 2011, 06:15 PM)
i wanna drive a 1.6L FL as well...just to know how it feels
it must feel great...no more underpower problems
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Thank for reply, Mr Alien.
I olso duno how it feel driving saga BLM or FL, never tried before, hope it feel good as its look. Last thursday just viewing new myvi.. but more pricy than saga FL. Premium 1.3 manual just cause RM47k++ rather than Saga 1.6FL RM46k++. Lucky I'm just book the FL a week before.. biggrin.gif .
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QUOTE(sam9557 @ Jun 18 2011, 06:33 PM)
Thank for reply, Mr Alien.
I olso duno how it feel driving saga BLM or FL, never tried before, hope it feel good as its look. Last thursday just viewing new myvi.. but more pricy than saga FL. Premium 1.3 manual just cause RM47k++ rather than Saga 1.6FL RM46k++. Lucky I'm just book the FL a week before.. biggrin.gif .
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should be good....1.3L have some underpower problem
the 1.6L should solve all that....no more compesating aircon and power..vice versa
1.6L..u can have cool aircon without sacrificing power
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any1's manual car got sound problem when pressing the clutch?
something like 'kruk kruk kruk' from metal/spring knocking on metal...
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QUOTE(smokey @ Jun 18 2011, 08:14 PM)
any1's manual car got sound problem when pressing the clutch?
something like 'kruk kruk kruk' from metal/spring knocking on metal...
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your problem sounds like omara86's problem....try ask him
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mine one is tak tak sound...weird
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QUOTE(sg999 @ Jun 18 2011, 09:24 PM)
mine one is tak tak sound...weird
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u mean engine idling sound?
that's the IAFM sound
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 18 2011, 08:14 PM)
should be good....1.3L have some underpower problem
the 1.6L should solve all that....no more compesating aircon and power..vice versa
1.6L..u can have cool aircon without sacrificing power
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I'm used to owned wira 1.6 a/b manual in year 2000. its millenium model. Wira weight is 1060kg rather the 1.6FL is 1075kg. Its show that BLM body more heavier than wira. That cause feeling under power to BLM with 1.3L engine. But BLM should more stable on high speed. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(sam9557 @ Jun 18 2011, 09:51 PM)
I'm used to owned wira 1.6 a/b manual in year 2000. its millenium model. Wira weight is 1060kg rather the 1.6FL is 1075kg. Its show that BLM body more heavier than wira. That cause feeling under power to BLM with 1.3L engine. But BLM should more stable on high speed. thumbup.gif
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yes...1 thing made the car underpower is the weight becuz they use better steel
the 2nd thing is the aircon..it sucks alot of power when the compressor kicks in
but good thing is the aircon is very cold
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 18 2011, 10:32 PM)
u mean engine idling sound?
that's the IAFM sound
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that one solved.
they help me adjust without replace new iafm
the tak sound if from cluth
press once,tak one time... cry.gif
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QUOTE(sg999 @ Jun 18 2011, 10:32 PM)
that one solved.
they help me adjust without replace new iafm
the tak sound if from cluth
press once,tak one time... cry.gif
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this one i think need SC to solve it for u..or u can duck you heat down and see what's under there
use your hand to push the clutch and see the sound come from where
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QUOTE(sg999 @ Jun 18 2011, 10:32 PM)
that one solved.
they help me adjust without replace new iafm
the tak sound if from cluth
press once,tak one time... cry.gif
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mine also got

i suspect spring maybe causing it
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QUOTE(sg999 @ Jun 18 2011, 10:32 PM)
that one solved.
they help me adjust without replace new iafm
the tak sound if from cluth
press once,tak one time... cry.gif
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I also experience same thing like you... but thanks god that the sound were gone after certain period without even consult SC
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post Jun 19 2011, 12:31 AM

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try use WD40 spray spray a bit at the clutch area there, see if its any better
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post Jun 19 2011, 12:55 AM

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saga FL 1.6 is proton ride & handling

saga FL 1.3 is lotus ride & handling

must give feed back on any diff for FL 1.6 owner
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post Jun 19 2011, 01:10 AM

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QUOTE(NewbieBetta @ Jun 19 2011, 12:55 AM)
saga FL 1.6 is proton ride & handling

saga FL 1.3 is lotus ride & handling

must give feed back on any diff for FL 1.6 owner
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it's basically the same thing
they changed the name only
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post Jun 19 2011, 08:30 AM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 19 2011, 01:10 AM)
it's basically the same thing
they changed the name only
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Heard news that Proton & Lotus splitting up...so mayb reason for name change? Kenot use Lotus name oledi!! Haha!
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post Jun 19 2011, 08:41 AM

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QUOTE(zeone @ Jun 19 2011, 08:30 AM)
Heard news that Proton & Lotus splitting up...so mayb reason for name change? Kenot use Lotus name oledi!! Haha!
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haha.. bcoz proton siasui lotus name ar..? sure lotus and proton handling the same or not..? why 1.6 no lotus handling wan..?
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post Jun 19 2011, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(Izzet @ Jun 19 2011, 12:54 AM)
I also experience same thing like you... but thanks god that the sound were gone after certain period without even consult SC
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i think 2008 MT users facing this problem
sometime have.sometme dun have~
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Added on June 19, 2011, 10:53 am
QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 18 2011, 10:58 PM)
yes...1 thing made the car underpower is the weight becuz they use better steel
the 2nd thing is the aircon..it sucks alot of power when the compressor kicks in
but good thing is the aircon is very cold
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u can press buttong a/c button off or so called TURBO BUTTONG ON when wan more power
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Added on June 19, 2011, 10:55 am
QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 19 2011, 12:10 AM)
mine also got

i suspect spring maybe causing it
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i found that this problem occured most frequent during hot weather
maybe high temperature cause spring to inflate?
poor knowledge from me..LOL rclxm9.gif

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post Jun 19 2011, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(zeone @ Jun 19 2011, 08:30 AM)
Heard news that Proton & Lotus splitting up...so mayb reason for name change? Kenot use Lotus name oledi!! Haha!
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they won't split up...proton is the parent of lotus
lotus want out is impossible
it's the same thing like i say...only change name because parents want to something from the child is very normal

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