I went to local hospital, they all malas to layan anxiety patient like me.
But thanks to them i have my heart and my thyroid checked. which is im okay.


http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditi...on/con-20029996


This post has been edited by insidexjokes: Jul 4 2014, 01:58 AM

Go to a klinik kesihatan / polyclinic (government), tell the medical officer your problem, that u've had ur bloods checked and its normal. Ask for a referral letter specifically to the psychiatry clinic. Go back to a local hospital (one with a psychiatry unit and psychiatrist), give the letter to the psychiatry clinic staff and u'll get ur appointment. Good luck

Which hospital you go? General Hospital KL?

General hospital Kota Tinggi Johor, do you know any other hospital that will look at my illness seriously. Any suggestion?

I suppose what u did at kota tinggi was u walk-in to the emergency department. If the doc is junior and dunno whats' going on with u (or dunno where to refer u to), they will probably do some basic blood test and discharge u with 'reassurance'. So if u think the 'treatment' is sub-par and ur prob is genuine, do like i said previously. Go to the psychiatry clinic via the method i mentioned. U may think seeing a psychiatrist is an 'overkill' or a taboo but anxiety does fall under psychiatry disorders and they have specific drugs to help. Good luck
p/s: Other alternatives will be the private hospitals.

I agree. I went to Selayang Hospital (government) and the young doctor actually gave me Panadols and said there's nothing else he can do for me.
Don't despair if your first few attempts in seeking medical help were futile.
Doctors are humans too, they make mistakes too.

Thanks alot guys, i will go seek psychiatric help.

I believe what samowong said is true. Most likely u encountered some noob officer who sent u back home with "reassurance" (haha love this word!)

Last week i went to General hospital KL, i see a good doctor. She explain alot like in details. But she did mention my anxiety "belom terok lagi" and i ask her. Then nak tunggu sampai terok ke baru dapat treatment. And she smiles. '

So, what treatment did u receive?

Anxiety is due to being worried. Its something that has to do with your mind. I've gone through this. All you have to know is.. nothing is happening to you. You need people to talk to

After all these years, I still don't know where to go to.

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Added on March 12, 2011, 3:41 pmMy life went downhill since then, I forgot how my high school was, my brain deleted all those painful memories.

Crap, this brings tears to my eyes.

This post has been edited by afieQ: Mar 12 2011, 03:41 PM

anxiety is worry all the times?

heart pumping non stop ke ?

Yeap. Like all the times, started from you woke up in the morning, till you fell asleep,

Heart pumping fast, pain all over the body, shortness of breath, anxious, scared, you name it. Its a mental illness that are very physical.

Its hard really to work, some of us even scared to go out side.

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Added on March 13, 2011, 5:13 amno treatment, they just gave me painkillers for the pain, nothing for the anxiety.

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Added on March 13, 2011, 5:20 amI know how it feels, it is really a pain in the ass, especially when people close to you.. umm how to say it.. act like they dont care?
like they say "ala its only your mind playing tricks on you" "ala kau buat rilek sudah"

Whenever i found a place to go, i will tell you. But i suggest you to go to HUKM, just yesterday i found out i have a friend that is an anxiety disorder sufferer like us. She did get a treatment there, but she say we need to have a letter from a local hospital/clinic, so we can have treatment there. Now they put her on clonazepam (Klonopin), and shes started to feel less anxious, she said.

Better days ahead

This post has been edited by insidexjokes: Mar 13 2011, 05:20 AM

I suspect that I have anxiety disorder too. Who are you seeing currently? Anyone else with anxiety disorder? Anyone who has successfully recovered?

Below are some recommendations I found at Cari forum, he/she was seeing both:
Psychiatrist - Dr Aw Tui Iar
Psychologist - Ms Leong Huey Mei, Hospital Pantai Indah
Please share your views and comments on them if you have previously consulted them.

Please also share any other good recommendations especially if you or someone you know have had good results with the doctor.
I would be happy to visit both government and private clinics, as long as the doctor is good or 1 of the best, as I am quite worried with my condition and I do not know any contacts, and I am also concern with what I read on some websites that psychiatry is not very advanced in Malaysia.

This post has been edited by Flowerz: Apr 1 2011, 10:36 PM

I'm on anxiety meds now! Im on Alpazolam. Went to hospital Ampang, met Doctor Lim, he's a great doctor.
Im recovering, but i still clinging on too much of the pills,

One day i left the pills at home when working, at first it was okay, then i suddenly realized i let those pills at home, fuahh! PANIC ATTACKS!

Glad to hear that you are recovering. Thanx for ur recommendation, I m thinking of seeing a GP soon.

Can you share with us your journey to recovery? Coz I have not heard of anyone I know who had it before. How do they diagnose you with anxiety disorder? Do u see a GP 1st, then do blood test or ECG test before seeing a psychiatrist?

How is it treated? The psychiatrist juz prescribe u with meds? U mentioned earlier that u went to General Hospital, KL n she only gave u pain killers, so u switch to Doctor Lim at Ampang hospital after that? Is he giving u therapy apart from Alpazolam? Is ur condition caused by stress? Coz I m afraid that the doc will only give me meds to cure the symptoms but not the underlying cause.

This post has been edited by Flowerz: Apr 4 2011, 02:15 PM

i think i gt anxiety dis but no pain ?

how to describe it ?

Well here's the thing. Theres a fine line between "normal" anxiety and "disordered" anxiety.

Normal anxiety is when you feels anxious,scared,worried when theres a situation (life or death situation, interviews, surprised, you know that kinda situations)

Anxiety disorder is when you feels anxious without facing those situations. (like for me i felt anxious like for 24/7)
But panic attacks has it triggers. For example you get panic attack when at crowded places, you started to feel SUPER ANXIOUS, cant breath well,you have chest pain and discomfort, you feel faintish.

Maybe its a self fulfilling prophecy? your anxiety STARTED because you left your pills at home?

Try to change to a more dont-give-a-damn lifestyle perhaps?

You can visit the link below to read more about anxiety disorder:
http://www.psychiatry-malaysia.org/listcat.php?cid=6&all=N

They have a "Quick Mood Checklist for Anxiety Disorder":
http://www.psychiatry-malaysia.org/article.php?aid=1470

If you think there is something wrong, I think the best thing to do is to visit ur GP for diagnosis, although it may be difficult to take the first step. I wasn't aware about this disorder until I read about it in The Star years ago.

Hey guys and gals,
I attend this..and find it helpful.. http://www.mentalhealth.org.my/
The DSG meets every second Saturday of each month at 3.00pm at MMHA premises to exchange views among members who suffer from depressive and/or anxiety/mood disorder. All DSG members as well as those who want to benefit from these gatherings are welcome

Try going to a private practitioner. I recommend Dr. Aw. PM me if you want her clinic address.....her clinic is at Wisma MCA.

Are you anxious in social situations? Such as when walking in crowds or when talking to a stranger? I often blush abnormally and heart race in social situations and recently I started to participate in a program at my campus conducted by clinical psychology students. It like a.. counseling/therapy done in private. So far..not yet working haha.

I think you should try the electrostatic therapy machine of Al Jabbar. It works on nerve.

Go see a psychologist for treatment of panic disorder and/or anxiety disorder. They are cheap I think.
If you see a medical practitioner specialised in psychiatry then it would be much more costly.

seriously go to HUKM cheras

Definitely go seeing a psychologist first before seeing a psychiatrist

Its easy for you to say "live a more dont-give-a-lifestyle" when you have nothing bothering you.
Anxiety disorder really is a painful and scary illness. You know what, people like you is the one who bringing ppl with anxiety disorder down.
If you say this to a Anxiety Disorder like me, this will totally breaks the patient's mental and spirits down.
But i've met a lot of ppl like you,and surprisingly even my bestfriends have this kinda mind set. Easier said than done.
But it's okay im strong now
HAHAHA

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Added on June 4, 2011, 11:15 pmI agreed. You should check all the physical symptoms first. Let them exam you. If they say you have anxiety disorder, then you go see a psychiatrist.
From my experience, i've gone through so much. I went to see them doctors more then a dozen time. First they'll say its nothing, it is just gastric or fatigue.
Then i came again said it getting worst, so they tested my blood. I had 3 different blood test if im not mistaken, the normal blood test, the sugar and cholesterol blood test, and the thyroid blood test. I've done so much ECG's, X-rays, all normal. THEN they suspected me of having Anxiety Disorder. After that i was referred to a psychiatrist.
The first appointment was a long one, its like a job interview sorta. LOL. So the result are, i have BOTH anxiety and panic disorder.

My advice is,
1. BE STRONG! dont let words brings you down.
2. SEEK SOMEONE TO TALK. This really helps, in times when anxiety strikes. *i have to thank my friend Debra for this*
3. DO NOT GOOGLE ANYTHING CONCERNING YOUR HEALTH. IT IS A BADDDD MOVE . I LEARNT IT THE HARD WAY. TRUST ME, DONT EVER GOOGLE. IT'LL WORSEN YOUR NEGATIVE THOUGHTS.
4. SEEK MEDICAL HELP QUICK. BOTH PHYSICALLY AND MENTALLY.


This post has been edited by insidexjokes: Jun 4 2011, 11:15 PM

All the best on your recovery bro.

hey, how much does it cost when u see that Doctor in Hospital Ampang? Early this year i've been prescribe Alpazolam also by doctor in private hospital in kedah. But after he has done several test that cost me around RM400++... huhuhu..... i find that this meds help me alot. But Now since i've transferd to S'gor i need to find new Doctor to prescribe me with the same meds that didn't cost me alot like before...

Thats sounds drastic. How does it work?

I bought a small one at RM5,000+. The sales person said that it can cure uric acid. After 6 months of using it, my uric acid "attacked" me again for almost a month!

Now I have to revert back to Allopurinol pills after wasting:

1) a few thousand on TCM
2) almost RM10,000 going to China for some Tibetan doctor
3) a few thousand on foot massager
4) a few thousand on some water filter

is it for free? like UH ?

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Added on July 8, 2011, 9:19 pmI agree with you totally about googling stuff on health. I did that and I was paralyzed with fear and most of the info provided on the internet are sometimes misleading and false. Thanks for sharing. Hope you're doing better. PM me if you need to talk some time.

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Added on July 8, 2011, 9:20 pmwhy? go where?

This post has been edited by conehead: Jul 8 2011, 09:20 PM

i think they will give u xanax...coz i got threatment too...but now i'm not anxiety anymore..i start anxiety since 2005...they give me xanax if i worried...then after 1 year..my anxiety dah ilang....

U must go to psikatri goverment hospital, jumpa pakar, coz this ubat very mahal. Not sell in pharmacy, coz drug addict love this xanax for 'high'...original xanax satu biji rm5 ikut miligram...

p/s : M.Jackson addicted to xanax...beratus dia habis untuk makan ubat xanax sahaja...i read from newspaper...




Exactly ur statement ..must fight if got anxiety disorder...but hard for start...but kena fight juga..kalau tak kita akan depend on ubat...

Anxiety Disorder u can't play2...i try so hard to give back my self confident, worried, tak tenang, etc...lagi satu, anxiety disoder tanda2 kecil schizophrenia..bukan nak takutkan u, but its true..coz i'm anxiety too dulu ( tak suka lying better tell the truth about our sakit )....i'm lucky coz my mom work at hospital...my doc name Doktor Rashid at my place.....

This post has been edited by carnine9: Jul 9 2011, 11:39 AM

i dont think u need a doctor, u need more frens

Yup bro ..for positive reaction like bro said...frens make ourself cool calm n tak pikir benda2 pelik...agreed...but must find good frens...

This post has been edited by carnine9: Jul 9 2011, 11:51 AM

Very hard to find good friends these days. Specially if you are out of school.

Been there and done that....

You can go to UMSC, asked for Prof Aili.. She is on of the best around.


Next, ask for "Spiritual" Help which I did.


I'm cured from it..

You should all consider drug free methods such as Linden Method, IMO their methods dwell deeply into the
mechanism of Anxiety Disorder and offer one of the best solution so far I can find to overcome it.

http://www.panic-anxiety.com/

I think looking for friends that have the same problem is more helpful. Like a support group

On the contrary, you should avoid that, support group will actually backfired, you should avoid talking about your anxiety experience at all cost, maybe a few times to your close friends or family members but not after that, because anxiety thoughts are learned bad habits, it's harmless, worst case you will have panick attack but that is also harmless because it's a normal physical reaction of fear & adrenaline rush for fight-or-flight response to nonexistent danger, if you keep talking about it & be reminded about it constantly, your anxiety thoughts will become persistent & hard to shake off over time.

What you should do however is try to fill up your free times with positive activities such as sports, singing, listen to music, chitchat with friends (anything but anxiety stuff), hobbies etc, this will avoid your idling mind to wander into negative thoughts, when you practice these new habits constantly, you will unlearned your bad habits in no time.

Be happy & No worry.

This post has been edited by Trony: Jul 19 2011, 12:35 PM

Hmm well for me, talking about my problems helps as it keeps me aware and motivate me to deal with the problem. But I guess different people have different ways of dealing with problems

In the beginning it's perfectly ok to research your condition, seeking answers/infos/reasons to your condition & sharing your condition with your friends and family. Once you have understood your condition, you will know that you're not alone in this condition, you're just having unpleasant thoughts & feelings which are harmless, with these knowledge you will have less fear & more prepared to deal with it.

To deal with it you may endure it if it's minor, but if your condition started to hamper your day-to-day life, you must then eliminate it by all means, anxiety elimination is a difficult & long journey, drug therapy is often the shortcut but it comes with side effects & short term relief, furthermore dosage will be increased for recurrences that often lead to addiction.

When you're ready to eliminate your anxiety (drug free), your next step is to stop all your previous action of "research your condition, seeking answers/infos/reasons to your condition & sharing your condition with your friends and family" because by now you should have your answers already, the rest will be same as my previous post:Be happy & No worry.

im surprise there's so many people experiencing this..

can anyone here who were confirm a anxiety disorder sufferer tell me how does it feel physically when you think you're in an anxious state?..does these physical experience come suddenly or it get worst day by day until the day you think it's serious?..

I believe there is anxiety disorder, i think i might have a mild form of it. but i always think that we can fix it with our thought. since our feeling comes from thought, and it then became physical..i try and try to figure my way out, and i still feel that im stuck at the same place..

i notice that im worrying a lot now compared to the earlier years. because im much more inefficient in whatever i do. if i were to translate it, it would sound much like. im worrying when im reading, im worrying that i cannot recall what i've read, im worrying that im worrying about my reading. and it goes on and on..

you guys experience stuff like that? personal experience? got any test or exam that doesn't make you feel too weird about it?..im worrying as i write, since im going to bump the thread, and people will start saying some guy have an anxiety disorder again..

This post has been edited by H.K. Lee: Aug 2 2011, 10:45 PM

do you like boxers? you got a cute boxer dog pic on your avatar.

anyways, i have felt terrible discomfort in my heart when i experience anxiety. But I don't experience it a lot. If you want, you can try to see a psychiatrist to see if its really anxiety disorder in a govt hospital or something as it's cheaper.

sounds like you may have paranoia.......but dont' worry, it is treatable my friend. you just need professional advice and some support.

Info extracted & compiled from The Linden Method with minor edit for readability.

Are These Experiences Familiar to You?
» Have you sought medical attention when you have felt unwell and discovered that it was all because of high anxiety?
» Do you worry that you might 'lose your mind' or 'lose control'?
» Do you fear going out, away from people or places of safety?
» Do you ever get anxious when you feel confined or trapped somewhere like the dentist, cinemas, hairdressers or in a traffic queue?
» Do you have constant anxious thoughts?
» Do you worry about your heart and breathing because of feelings and pains you experience?
» Do driving or flying, or fear of being trapped without an immediate means of escaping, worry you?

Do you experience any Physical anxiety symptoms like these?
» panic/anxiety attacks
» racing heart
» breathlessness
» dizziness
» difficulty swallowing
» chest pains
» upset stomach/nausea
» indigestion
» lump in throat
» neck or shoulder pain
» palpitations
» fatigue
» sweating
» insomnia
» depression

Or any Psychological and Emotional anxiety symptoms such as these?
» fear of impending doom
» feeling of going mad
» anxiety about being ill
» aggressive or sexual thoughts
» agoraphobia
» derealization
» depersonalization
» fear of medical procedures
» dread of dying
» disturbing or obsessive thoughts
» feeling alone
» obsessions about food
» confusion
» depression
» disturbing dreams
» irritability
» dreaminess
» fear of leaving home
» stress
» bad moods
» frightening thoughts
» anxiety about being with others

Depression and Anxiety
Historically, anxiety and depression have been strongly linked. But are they related? That depends on the answer to one question!

The question is: What came first, the anxiety or the depression symptoms?

If your answer is that depression came before the anxiety, then chances are that you are suffering from true clinical depression. If you answer that your anxiety came before the depression, chances are you have anxiety-related depression and that's a completely different and very treatable condition. Anxiety causes mood changes which mimic true depression!

There is a big difference between anxiety caused by depression and depression caused by anxiety.

Clinical depression is a chemical mood disorder caused by changes in the chemicals in your body and brain that regulate 'mood'. This chemical imbalance causes a wide range of disturbing thoughts and anxiety symptoms and is generally treated using drugs, psychology, psychiatry and some more invasive procedures.

Anxiety is a behavioral condition caused by the habit of 'Fear Cycle' or repetitive anxious thoughts. We feel frightened, we experience symptoms, these frighten us, our anxiety goes up... and the cycle continues. Stress, phobias and anxiety can cause 'depression like' symptoms but rarely true clinical depression. Anxiety is also generally treated using drugs, psychology and psychiatry which are good for treating and managing it, but not for curing it.

Anxiety Disorder - Is it a physical or mental illness?
In short, no, anxiety disorder is neither a physical nor mental illness!

The word disorder suggests illness, please be assured that you are not ill. Anxiety is a behavioral condition regardless of how it makes you feel. Anxiety is a natural response to fear and, like other bodily systems that can falter, causing things like indigestion, palpitations or sensitive eyes for example, the anxiety response can become disrupted too. But, this isn't mental or physical illness... it's a temporary disruption which can be 'reset' very quickly indeed.

Anxiety disorder is the condition caused when stress or constant anxiety provoking situations cause the mind to become reset at a higher than normal benchmark anxiety level. Anxiety disorder is most noticeable by the vast range of unpleasant sensations and thoughts it creates... unpleasant but harmless!

Creation of an anxiety disorder can happen quickly and is usually the result of an event such as work stress, bereavement, divorce or other anxiety-provoking situations. When anxiety levels become raised due to such stressors, the mind can make a decision to re-set at this new level of anxiety; when this happens an anxiety disorder is formed. Anxiety causes a wide range of both physical and psychological symptoms, all directly caused by the anxiety reaction, all harmless, BUT all also feeling much worse than they actually are! They are the sensation of FEAR... BUT, they are NOT true fear!

Anxiety Conditions (Disorder) - what are they?
There are five main 'anxiety disorders', these are:
1. Generalized anxiety disorder (GAD)

2. Panic disorder

3. Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD)

4. Phobias

5. Post traumatic stress disorder (PTSD)

Just because conventional medicine has decided to apply these names to specific features of anxiety conditions, doesn't mean that there aren't some 'fuzzy edges' during diagnosis. If you suffer from any of the above conditions, you have underlying high anxiety, without which none of these anxiety conditions would exist.

Often, anxiety will create a mixture of obsessions, high anxiety and panic, making it very difficult to categorize a sufferer's condition. But, it isn't important to categorize because all of these conditions are caused by elevated anxiety and require the exact same solution to remove them.

Often, anxiety disorder sufferers can be diagnosed as having 'depression' which is a common mistake made by medical practitioners world over; anxiety is a completely separate and very different condition to depression and confusing the two is akin to telling an Athlete's Foot sufferer that they have Eczema... they are both skin conditions but completely unrelated!

Anxiety Attacks - The pinnacle of high anxiety - Can they be stopped?
Anxiety attacks or panic attacks are the most extreme experience of anxiety. Anxiety attacks happen when the hormone adrenalin, which prepares the body for fighting or fleeing from a threat, stays in the blood stream long after it is required. Of course, if the anxiety is inappropriate and has been caused by a disorder and not a true threat, it isn't used up at all; this is when an anxiety attack happens.

Anxiety attacks cause the heart to speed up and for digestion to slow, breathing to speed up and many other changes, which all have the unfortunate affect of causing some unpleasant sensations and thoughts.

Can anxiety attacks be stopped - of course they can.
How?

By reversing the process that caused them in the first place!

Using a structured and simple technique, you can completely reset your anxiety levels back down to normal, something that neither drug therapy nor psychotherapy can do in isolation.

Anxiety Symptoms
Anxiety symptoms are caused by the anxiety response; they are either direct alterations of bodily systems in preparation for anxiety OR side effects of those changes. For example, during high anxiety, the digestive system is slowed down to divert resources to other parts of the body, the muscles for example.

The side effect of this can be stomach cramps or discomfort. The cramps are caused by the anxiety reaction but because the sufferer has high anxiety, they can be interpreted in other ways; fears grow and the anxiety worsens. This then causes more symptoms and so on. This cycle of high anxiety can produce many sensations and thoughts that are mostly misinterpreted by the sufferer as being sinister or threatening, but they are not.

Anxiety causes changes in the body that can cause symptoms just about anywhere and some can be pretty extreme; this doesn't mean they are threatening in any way and all of them will disappear when you eliminate the underlying anxiety that causes them. FACT!

Anxiety Help / Support
Anxiety support can be unstructured and unsupportive through conventional networks and resource shortages are usually to blame. Cost can also be an issue, with specialists such as psychologists and psychiatrists charging high hourly rates and often over long periods. The biggest problem with anxiety help and support though is accessibility. Anxiety sufferers are needy and require support, advice and reassurance during their high anxiety and not just when the specialists are available. Seamless access to answers is vital with anxiety disorders.

Finding such a resource is near impossible through conventional anxiety support provisions, such as a psychology practice, medical practice or hospital.

So, what is the solution to anxiety?
The solution to anxiety is very simple indeed, because the subconscious mind has become 'reset' at a higher than normal level, the cure for anxiety is to reset your high anxiety back down to normal level using a structured anxiety elimination program.

Be Happy & No worry.

I have been diagnosed with Anxiety Disorder. GAD and Social Anxiety Disorder. I find it really hard to do things that i usually enjoyed. I avoided crowded places.

For me, my psychical pain when anxiety attack, attacks.
I have chest pain, racing heartbeats, neck pain, arm pain, shoulder pain and back pain. And its kinda hard to breath at times. And my visions are sometimes focused. idk. This has been going on for a year now. I went for like countless check up if my heart is okay, and all the the test shows my heart is indeed okay.

Emotionally.

I feel very scared, i felt something is about to happen, something bad.
Uncomfortable, uneasy. restless. i also kena insomnia.

My doctors gives me to types of pills.

Alprazolam 0.5mg and Fluvox 1mg.
Alprazolam is for the anxiety and fluvox for depression.

Personally i think a support group would be a great help.
I have very close friends, i talk about this to them.. they want to help.. but they dont understand how does it feels. If in a support group.. each member actually knows how'd it feel ad understands.

same problem as u ts. my first doctor gave me prothiaden
ate that and it make me sleepy too much i rarely went for checkup since general hospital have only do checkup 1 per month and it's crowded so it makes it harder for me to go. next time i went they already change a new doctor and he gave me Luvox.

luvox doesn't work well for me as i have very bad side effects of it but when i go see this 2nd doc, he refuses to hear and wants me to keep eating those pills... so i dont go there anymore.

i went back to prothiaden and got my pills from local pharmacy. downside is i need to buy them in bulk which cost me more than RM300. does it work? no.. i should probably go back seeing a doc . if only things were that easy

To Insidexjokes: Its great news that the meds have finally helped u in ur battle with AD. The doses your r taking are relatively low and if it enables u to resume a decent better quality of life, do continue. But from time to time, our lives will never b totally smooth sailing and you will have stressful triggers again. Those time may cause u to push urself for more Alprazolam and that might cause a vicious cycle. My humble advice to you would be to now take some time to identify what was the cause of the triggers n stressors that may have caused ur condition in the first place. There might be a few factors involved at one given time or none at all but u should try to identify them. The road in dealing with Anxiety or Depression is a long and very hard path to walk. So never walk alone and never look back. Keep pushing on and you will find urself in ur utmost optimal quality in time.

To Liquidsny:
Personally, i wouldnt advice on self medicating especially if the meds are really working for u. Do go back to ur doctor and be adamant that u require something better. Voice ur opinions. Sometimes, its not because they dont want to hear ur pleas or request but from experience, depressed or anxious patients can sometimes be overly dependant on meds to a point where they will start hopping from meds to meds just to make themselves "feel" that they r getting a better meds. Doctors sometimes pick up on this and try to prevent them from doing so. But if ur meds really arent working for u, do discuss with ur doctor. They will help.

yes i get it that he doesn't want me to depend on prothiaden. but i think he forgots that i have anxiety and that would make me difficult to xplain my problems with him.. the thing about GH is that there is no privacy, when u went in to see doc, the nurses can walk in and out as they please and listen in..

as to why i didn't carry on with luvox or luvoc is because it really does gave me bad side effects such as body aches in pain till i couldn't walk and severe headache .. i tried those meds 2 weeks and i ended up in emergency room with bad headache.. they concluded that i had the "wrong pills" ..

@insidexjokes

sry to hijack ur thread n hope ur treatment goes well for u.. do tell us if those prescription makes u feel better

This post has been edited by liquidsny: Dec 10 2011, 02:43 PM

[quote=liquidsny,Dec 10 2011, 11:18 AM]
yes i get it that he doesn't want me to depend on prothiaden. but i think he forgots that i have anxiety and that would make me difficult to xplain my problems with him.. the thing about GH is that there is no privacy, when u went in to see doc, the nurses can walk in and out as they please and listen in..

as to why i didn't carry on with luvox or luvoc is because it really does gave me bad side effects such as body aches in pain till i couldn't walk and severe headache .. i tried those meds 2 weeks and i ended up in emergency room with bad headache.. they concluded that i had the "wrong pills" ..




Well, do go back to ur doctor n request a private meeting. Nurses will always b there but worry not, believe me, they dont pay much attention to the cases at all. =)

Reason y i said to go back to ur doctor is because there are actually many different sort of anti depressants in the market right now. Luvox is just one of the many that you can be started on. Having side effects to it could simply mean u should b started on other classes of antidepressants. Whats more importantly is how r u coping with ur current situation? If u feel u need help, then pls dont worry about meeting ur doctor, just make an appointment and work it out with them. Good luck! Dont lose faith in the Psychiatrist in Malaysia. We are a "young" group of medical team who's striving to make a difference in the Mental Health Care of Malaysia which has been significantly neglected.

Hey there insidexjokes, I'm glad you are getting stronger and better now. You know what, everything in life is actually giving you only TWO options to choose. For either good or bad, day and night, happy or sad, positive or negative etc. Given the choice, why not ignore the bad and cherish the good, watch the sunrise and start your day full of activity and choose to be happy for life is short. Remember, always look at the bright side of everything.

Everyday, think and imagine you are recovering and anxiety disorder is the past. Being past is past and it will not come back just like when a child has grown up, you cant go back to become a child once again dont you. When you start to worry, talk to yourself and say hey, anxiety is my history and there is no way I can go back unless I have time machine which is not possible.
You are now starting a new chapter in your life and are living a normal and happy life like others. In front of you, there are so much good things waiting for you to explore and enjoy. Let's celebrate life.

Cheers,
A lil advise from Zentaro

I had this panic disorder once this year. It occur after i drank a cup of thick coffee. Its been long time I never drink coffee. That day i put in two table spoon of milo and three teaspoon of nescafe in my cup. I think too thick for me. then i ate two packs of groundnuts and one chocolate bar. Suddenly after three to four hours i feel my heart beat so fast at the same time felt like hard to breath.

My hands and feet become very cold. I thought i might have sign of heart attack. So i quickly call my father to fetch me to hospital I am working that day. I dont dare to drive home. While waiting, all sort of thoughts in my mind. I even compose a will and make it as background picture for my iphone. Before my father reach around 10 minutes before i felt my both arms numb, both my legs numb hardly can clench my fist and stand up. I just squat infront my office. and then my stomach cramp... feel like something pushing in and out..feel like the stomach twitch so badly that i want to vomit.

and when my father reach office. I started to talk gilberish. i dunno if he understand. I remember i told him.. " if i died please use this as the proof of my will." i have written down all saving epf and socso will be for my parent.

Then my father quickly drive me to hospital. Along the way my father ask me to breath harder and try to clench fist and release so that the heartbeat will pump... i dunno that is right or wrong i just follow.
Along the way to hospital. i took four panadols, three highblood pressure pill, two pain killers. i have high blood pressure diagnose this year too but then i never took it since i already try to change my lifestyle. daily i did my blood pressure checkup. from 140 now around 110~ 115 already.

By the time i reach hospital in emergency. They test my blood pressure is around 160. heart beat is very fast around 120. I ask doc is it i am getting heart attack. Doc says no. If i can breath hard and deep and fast it is not heart attack. I ask is it a sign of stroke doc says no cause if stroke only one part of leg or arm will be numb not both side.

Then the doc ask me about the symptoms i told the doc. Doc ask me to calm down and given me a anxiety pill. I took one. Only one. after around 15 to 20 minutes i feel better. heartbeat lower down to normal 75bps. blood pressure done down 120.

Doc advice me not to think too much. It is the sudden intense of fear that cause this panick disorder/ anxiety. It will overcome your physcology. If this is not control it will happen more and more frequent. So the cure is not too think too much bad things, dont drink too much caffeine and listen to music, think of happy things.
Then i ask doc to perform ECG to see my heart beat normal or not after the test it is normal. The Doc says cannot simply pop in medicine if not prescribe by doc. Too much pill at that day i feel so weak my body.

until now " touch wood " i only had it once. i don't want another time. The doc did give me a strips of anxiety pills. Doc says only use it when really need. Cause if took too many time you will get use to it then you will depend on this drug. this is a control drug and you cannot get it in any normal pharmacy.

Rest assured that you're not alone in this AD mind trap, all AD sufferers have similar symptoms such as those listed in my last post.

First, you need to understand that you're not "sick" physically, all the physical pain you're experiencing during AD episodes are the results of a normal physical reaction to fear & adrenaline rush for fight-or-flight response to nonexistent danger that keep on playing in your mind's eye, it's totally harmless to your physical body.

So physically you're 100% fit as confirmed by your doctor(s), you can now stop worrying about it, stop visiting doctor(s) again & again for reassurance as it's just another anxious habit, start working on kicking this bad habit of "fear/negative thought cycles", to kick this habit it's like asking you to unlearn driving a car, it's easy if you're a beginner but hard not impossible if you're a 10+ years experienced driver.

Second, you need to understand also that you're not "sick" mentally, all you have is just a hyper active mind with a lot of unallocated resources running screen saver with horror flicks, the different with people without AD is their screen savers is mostly non-fear positive genre, because fear is the key to open the door to AD, no fear no AD simple as that.

If not sick then why need to see doctor & take meds?
For AD beginners, panic/anxiety attacks is a very scary experience, it's perfectly normal to seek doctor(s) for professional help to first rule out any serious ailments of both physical & mental, if it's confirmed AD then you can opt for short term meds for serious AD or no meds for minor AD, doctor should advice you but the choice is always yours. If you're on meds you should consider cut down or stop meds & work on the elimination of anxious thoughts.

Why meds are bad for AD sufferers?
Meds will only provide temporary relief to AD symptoms, it will only mask or suppress your anxious thoughts as long as it's still in your bloodstream, it doesn't eliminate the root cause of anxious thoughts, often times the effects of meds will wear off after sometime which lead to increase dosage/addiction or change meds, not to mention that you have to endure some nasty side effects. If you're on high dosage of meds for a long time & you stop taking it, you will experience withdrawal syndrome with avalanche of rebound anxiety symptoms, in this case you have to talk to your doctor(s) about a gradual withdrawal program.

Why nowadays we have lots of AD sufferers?
Today people are more & more biased towards negative thoughts given the current world/social/home affairs fill with negative issues, bombarded by media 24/7 with lots of negative news, so no one is spare from it.

So why not everyone suffers from AD?
Those without AD are people who are aware & know how to filter out noise (negative) from signals (positive), their mind choose to dwell on positive thoughts rather than negative thoughts & ignore any temptation of fears.

How AD works basically?
Too much negative thoughts lead to fears, too much fears lead to panic/anxiety attacks, too much panic/anxiety attacks lead to more negative thoughts and the vicious cycle goes on & on, it's a positive feedback of fears in Amygdala that trigger the release of adrenaline into bloodstream which causes all sorts of adrenaline rush symptoms, these are just harmless sensations & feelings, scary but nothing more, BUT it's very handy when you're being chased by a real tiger, adrenaline will boost up your escape velocity.

How to stop/eliminate anxious/negative thoughts & panic/anxiety attacks?
The key is to unlearn old habit of anxious thoughts, by learning/practice new habit of non-anxious thoughts to overwrite the old ones, fill up your spare time with lots of positive things/works/hobbies, don't give chance for your mind to idle & wander about aimlessly, identify what make you happy & do it, stop dwelling/researching/talking about your AD conditions & ignore those sad/unhappy stuffs, go to bed early before 11.00pm & have at least 6~8 hours of sleep.
If anxious/negative thoughts try to resurface again, "STOP!" & "DIVERT" your mind/attention to do something else such as phone your friend up for chit-chat (not about AD), play loud music, sing along with it, watch funny videos & LOL, slap your cheeks, dance around, go fly kite, play sports/exercise/Tai-Chi/Chi-Kung, play video games, splash face with cold water, count down from 100 fast, do maths problems & etc, do it until the symptoms subside, make "DIVERSION" your new habit always!

Three teaspoon that's a lot bro, you're having a typical panic/anxiety attacks, coffee is a no-no for AD sufferers as caffeine will make you jittery and more anxious.

Be Happy & No worry.

Thanks Sioe, i have learnt to cope with everything anxiety throws at me over the years, but sometime anxiety is one hell of son of a b!tch. Hahaha.

And to Liquidsny, i agrees with sioe. Do go seek your own meds, go seek a doctor. Its gonna be a long process. Just bare with it.

Thanks Zentaro, i have try everything to look on the bright side, i used to be in a band, a hardcore band. Playing gigs week in week out. For some reason i kept telling myself i still can do that, but my body still refused to cooperate. That is something im working on. Hehehe. But thanks anyways.

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Added on December 13, 2011, 8:42 amto Liquidsny * do not seek own meds. *do not. hehe typo

This post has been edited by insidexjokes: Dec 13 2011, 08:42 AM

Its good to came across this AD discussion here...pls allow me to share my experience

I was once a AD sufferer 2 years ago and seriously, it was not an easy experience as we need to deal with it by our own mental strength. The symptoms I get is similar to what being mentioned from previous post. I had tried consume xanax, klonopil, alpazolam, etc...but the effect only last temporarily and will haunt you back if you stop taking the meds.

What I can remember clearly that my anxiety is much related to my stomach. It started when I got this serious gastritis which leads me to bloating, cramp, difficulties in swallowing, constipation and difficulty to fart. I lost about 7 kg at that time and my condition is worst at that time...quit my job for half a year (coz too weak to focus in work). Had done a blood test, ECG, ultrasound, endoscope and the results are normal. The docs prescribe me some Nexium, famotidine, charcoal, an other GERD meds but it doesn't help at all. My stomach continues keep bloating with excessive gasses bcoz I can't pass down my gas to the bottom. Then the doc conclude it's due to stress.

Then I go try TCM approach and the sinseh prescribe me some herbs to boil and drink for few weeks. Upon taking the herbs for few weeks, I got diarrhea every morning but the sinseh told me its fine coz it's removing the toxin from my intestines, so I continue with the medication. Later on, I felt much better ...my bowel movement is going from top to bottom (means i got no constipation and can release gasses easily, got more appetite and gain some weight). According to the sinseh, OUR EMOTION CAN AFFECT OUR STOMACH. Therefore, all my physical symptoms is started by my mental problem. After considering the sinseh words, I r'ber that before I have this AD, I was a person with no patience, easily get irritated, annoyed and angry. I guess this is the root problem.

From that day onwards, I decided to change my lifestyle totally...
- dont be a workaholic...take short breaks regularly at work...dont sit in front of the PC for a long time
- sleep early and wake up before sun rises...go for a morning walk or brief jogging
- do charity on weekends by visiting orphanage or old folks home...u'll noticed that by helping the needy, u'll feel that u're more fortunate and u'll appreciate ur life more and this will lead to more positive thoughts.
- if u're single, go find ur soulmate...have some fun and intimacy together.
- i changed my diet by taking more vege and less meat. Seldom take coffee and alcohol.
- but the most important thing is worry less and be happy.

I still get some mild AD on-and-off when I really stress at work now but it's still managable coz I know how to deal with it from my experience. Luckily my condition has improved now and I won't blushed away when talking to strangers and won't get panic in crowded areas. My simple advice is u need to change ur lifestyle and get rid of ur old habit/thoughts.

After going through this period, I somehow feel grateful that I get this AD. This had made me to understand my body and surroundings more

*p/s: if you need someone to talk to, feel free to PM me...TQ

cool!! really encouraging to hear testimony like this...
quite some few friends having physical symptoms when exam is near... when exam is over, no more diarrhoea...

Actually your conscious/logical mind says you can still do that, but your body "involuntary" refused to cooperate due to your subconscious/illogical mind ordered it to do so because of some fear conditioning programmed in Amygdala!

Some or most of our behaviors/habits/actions are involuntary control by our subconscious mind, when you learn new skills, 1st you use your conscious mind to execute the process of a new skill in an orderly manners, as you practise the same process overtime, your act will be programmed into your subconscious mind, next time when you need to perform the same skill set, your subconscious mind will kick in & run the saved skill set program automatically without you making a conscious effort to do so.

The above mechanism also applied to AD sufferers, where constant anxious/negative thoughts originated from your conscious mind when you're running some simulation of fear/worry/danger+fearful-reactions scenarios will trigger your subconscious mind into believing it & record it in Amygdala, when you face the same scenarios again next time, your subconscious mind will playback the same fear/worry/danger+fearful-reactions without you making a conscious effort to do so.

You can still go back & do what you loved before with some lifestyle changes, here are my advice to you:
1. Change your style by playing gigs in less crowded places or do recorded video gigs.
2. Divert your attention away from anything to do with crowded places & do anything that you enjoy/love & happy for until your symptoms reduced.

Some good infos:
http://pukamble.totalh.com/subconc1.htm
http://naturalanxietysolutions.com/article...la_anxiety.html

hear, hear!

You're on the right track mate!

Be Happy & No worry.

Thanks Trony, your advice really helps. I just hope 2012 brings more luck to me.

Something I would like to share (copied from my company's email) for this new year...

5 Keys to Living Longer and Better

Key #1: Eat fewer calories, but more food.
That’s no misprint. When nutrition researchers invited themselves over for dinner in kitchens across the globe -- from Greece to Japan to the state of Pennsylvania -- they discovered a tummy-satisfying secret to good health: Pile your plate high with vegetables and fruits, add respectable portions of beans and whole grains, and downplay high-calorie fare like cheeseburgers, cream sauces, and fatty meats.

The result: Fewer calories, more health-boosting antioxidants, and longer, happier, more active and independent lives.

Why? "People on Okinawa eat more food by weight than people who eat a Western-style diet,” says Bradley Willcox, MD, of the Pacific Health Research Institute in Honolulu and lead researcher of the Okinawa Longevity Study. “They eat a lot of produce and grains and smaller portions of higher-calorie, higher-fat foods. It’s the combination of high nutrition and lower calories that gives them a tremendous health advantage: Their risk for dementia, heart attacks, strokes, and cancer are among the lowest in the world.”


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It’s no secret that physical activity tones up muscles, burns calories, and puts a happy bounce in your step. But recently, researchers uncovered a new, bonus benefit: Exercise acts as a powerful vaccine against the aging process itself.
When University of Florida exercise physiologists put healthy people ages 60 to 85 on weight-training programs for six months then tested them for signs of free-radical damage, they were surprised by the results. By the end of the study, low-intensity exercisers had a drop in free-radical damage, while high-intensity exercisers had a slight increase. And a control group of nonexercisers had a whopping 13 percent rise in free-radical damage.

The message: low-intensity exercise might be the best kind to protect your heart and arteries. Need more convincing? Not exercising nearly doubles your risk of a heart attack, says Robert Nied, MD, a sports medicine specialist in California. And it’s not too late to start: “People who go from no exercise to some exercise receive the biggest benefits,” Dr. Nied notes.


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Life is perpetually busy no matter what your age. But the truth is, as careers reach their later stages, as children mature, and as home-improvement ambitions are fulfilled, time usually does become more available for adults after 60.
With this time comes choices. The easy one is to merely to relax: watch more TV, eat out more often, talk on the phone as much as you want.

The better choice? Discover something more meaningful to devote yourself to and pursue it wholeheartedly. Why? A growing body of scientific research shows that doing something that interests you offers big health benefits in your 50s, 60s, 70s, and beyond.
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When they rated their own degree of successful aging on scale of 1 to 10, the average score was a very happy 8.4. "People who think they are aging well are not necessarily the healthiest individuals," notes lead researcher Dilip Jeste, MD, chief of the university’s geriatric psychiatry division. "In fact, optimism and effective coping styles were found to be more important to successful aging than traditional measures of health and wellness."


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Close connections are a source of joy and offer a sturdy shield against the stress that can lead to health problems down the road. Scientific journals prove time and again that having friends around changes the biochemistry of your brain, pumping up feelings of joy and well-being that bolster immunity.

The message: When you’re alone for too long (and the definition of “too long” is different for each of us), levels of the stress hormone cortisol rise, ratcheting up your odds for heart disease, high blood pressure, depression, muddled thinking, and sleep problems.


Key #5: Flex your mind in positive ways.
By stressing your mind in productive ways, you can lower your risk of mental decline. And you don’t need fancy computer programs or complicated “brain games” to do it -- simple “brain calisthenics” (one neuroscientist calls then neurobics -- aerobics for your brain cells) that involve new ways of doing everyday things are all it takes.

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For those who has anxiety, do you have rashes or night sweats. My friend said it due to stress/depression/anxiety.

this.

i THINK i having this issue even until now since 2 years ago(ya i know is very long). visited doctors(even traditional) for few times and they said nothing wrong with me and blood pressure and heart beat is normal. most of the doctors said could be muscle pain and traditional doctor said could be my lifestyle..tried all the medicine(painkiller) but remain the same

i asked them is it because of anxiety and they said is possible but never give much advice of this. it feels so shit and ruin my mood.
im trying to relax and not to think anything else but the pain will come for no reason.

i even follow a healthy lifestyle like eat in order and in time, exercise( gym), sleep early(11pm) and wake up early, always hang out, keep myself busy during work(my work involved talking in every minutes),etc but the pain still coming.

i planning to go for another full body checkup after CNY and hope there is nothing wrong

I suggest you go to a HKL first, if you're in KL, you tell the doctors your conditions, and HIGHLIGHT your concern about ANXIETY DISORDER, tell them you have go to every medical check up possible and you still have this all problems. And ask them for a letter, god willing they'll forward you to a psychiatric division, but dont be a afraid, you're not gonna be submited to a mental ward, because YOURE NOT CRAZY. Then you'll get an appointment and i also suggest you ask them to forward you to Hospital Ampang, which where i get my treatments. At Hospital Ampang, the doctors are very nice and very concern, because i guess theres not much patient there.

Best of luck,

p/s If you have anything concerning about Anxiety/Depression/Panic disorder, i'll be glad to help STAY STRONG.

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Added on January 12, 2012, 3:29 pmI never have rashes but i seldom gets night sweats. For no reason.

This post has been edited by insidexjokes: Jan 12 2012, 03:29 PM

thanks..looks like cannot be done within 1 day

so have u fully healed?

Nope, cant be done in 1 day time.
I havent fully recovered, but i do learnt how to cope with AD, how to counter Anxiety Attacks,
But when it gets very extreme i took the pills still.

But dont worry, the sooner you'll seek help, the sooner you'll feel better.

Better Days Ahead.

Do you still have night sweats. Was this before of after they treated you?

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Added on January 14, 2012, 3:47 pmI still have night sweats, even after they treated you.
This is quite common amongst AD sufferers

Please help yourself, go seek help at the hospital.

This post has been edited by insidexjokes: Jan 14 2012, 03:47 PM

coz anxiety is not a sickness, it's just you're being paranoid.

do what alanyuppie said, try to be more "not give a shit"

if you are really scare of life, join Capoeira or any martial arts, they often teachs yer how to be "cafeful" so you wont be "scare" all the time. relying on pills is way too much, man. we're not americans

p.s. i was one, and im sitll flying f*cking scares of butterflies

This post has been edited by Pepper: Jan 15 2012, 08:23 AM

That is called phobia. not anxiety disorder

did had anxiety disorder, now only that left :9 -thumbs up-
let's cut it short. i got over it.

phrases like "today is just another day, tomorrow is a new day" can sometimes be extreamly helpful

This post has been edited by Pepper: Jan 16 2012, 09:04 PM

This is my story, my anxiety triggered when I first started work and in the last 2 years I have had about 5 attacks. At first I did not know what was it, I went to a few docs and they told me off that im having food allergy. After sometime, it disappeared and I did not have it for a few months and eventually I never thought of it.

I only found out that what I’m having is actually called anxiety last year. The worst experience of mine and it is still affecting me till today is when I had a full blown anxiety attack while driving, I thought I was going to die that day. I pushed myself but I was not able to continue, therefore decided to stop and call my friend for help. After the incident I took a month break from driving whereby I totally did not drive at all. Ever since then, I’m having a tough time with driving. I’m not sure what is wrong with my brain as I used to enjoy driving and even drive outstation alone last time but now I’m so afraid to drive on the highway. Each time I drive more than 5km I can feel the abnormality in my breathing and I tend to turn back.

These actually happen 4 months ago and up to today I’m still facing this problem. I can see that slowly im going into depression due to this issue and im having sleepless nights thinking about it. Due to the sleepless nights, every morning when I go to work I have terrible head pain, dozing off and lack of focus. I’m actually thinking now whether should I give up my job and concentrate on recovering myself. I’m not sure whether this is the right decision. I seriously don’t know how I am going to recover my driving. Appreciate the advice from the members here.

Sorry, but congratz on your recovery, i somehow did find a way to reduce the anxiety from bad to very mild with photography/videography.

great, do more!

This is a severe form of a panic attack, but I found myself being able to relate

Nice! This will help lots of people.
Thanks, this is exactly how i feel most of the time

Me too! And as a result I tend to run away from everyone, and will end up just sleeping most of the time

You'll have to learn to cope with it, it is very hard i tell you, but not impossible.
It took me 6 month to let myself be brave to go out, hangout with friends at mamaks. (by this time i have medical help i.e Alprazolam)
But in times, i learn to take less pills, and face the attacks, face to face without the pills, sometime i succeed, sometimes i dont.
Now it has been a year. And i have learnt how breath, when its hard to breath, i learnt how to calm, when its hard to calm.
But still i always have Alprazolam pills with me, in case of super duper anxiety/panic attacks. by super duper i mean, combo ah, hard to breath, tremor, disoriented, blur vision, and pain all over the body.

It takes time to adjust. But im sure you will succeed too.

FYI, i have daily attacks, my doctor says, not many ppl had daily attacks.

Wow.. I really admire your efforts! Must be really hard. Stay strong!

I also tried hanging out with people nowadays, but I dunno I think Im very picky and can't stand some people. It's like I will have a social overload or something. For example after going out with a group of friend I'll be like "whoaaa okay I need some timeout." And I will spend some time eating and going for a jog alone for a few days (even weeks). Is that normal?

But when it comes to a presentation or education related task, I try to breath calmly and try to talk really slowly to reduce my anxiety and I think I speak better in front of a class rather than speaking to a stranger. When it gets more personal, I get more anxious.

This post has been edited by Roz: Jan 20 2012, 01:44 AM

Has anyone tried meditation for anxiety disorders?

No, i havent tried that before, is it any good?

the only cure for anxiety is to face it.

It may benefit certain individuals. It's good to learn one or two things about the mind.

i agree, its so freaking hard. BUT NOT IMPOSSIBLE
Be super strong, be determine.

p/s personally i think first of all go seek medical help from the hospital. that'll give you guys a head start on fighting the panic/anxiety disorder.

i need help!

i have this eating out anxiety disorder for years! i find it hard to eat out because of truma last time, now 90% of the time i can only eat home