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post Aug 18 2010, 04:38 AM, updated 15y ago

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post Aug 18 2010, 08:01 AM

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Just getting a red saga se!! Yeayy!! tongue.gif
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should i give up the warranty? coz my car at 35k rite now.. at 40k service need to spent 500++ at proton sc.. im on dilemma rite now
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post Aug 18 2010, 08:10 AM

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3rd.yo!pls update the list put my name in it.thx.

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post Aug 18 2010, 08:38 AM

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waaa..new version..xshiro...add me in the list
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post Aug 18 2010, 09:12 AM

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RM500 for services shocking.gif ?
I do always call multiple SC and EON to compare the service, previously Ive call 2 SC, one is (afair-EON Taman Putra) RM500 and Proton (Siang Hin Tyres -near AKLEH entrance) quoting for around RM200 only, I can give u contact number if u want to asking

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should i give up the warranty? coz my car at 35k rite now.. at 40k service need to spent 500++ at proton sc.. im on dilemma rite now
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post Aug 18 2010, 09:23 AM

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post Aug 18 2010, 09:25 AM

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morning... newbie in getting a car here... ahahaha.. pick SAGA SE though for value for money... any tips on improving it more? (even i think it is perfect already) tongue.gif
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blm user here...since 2008
currently everything is stock, maintained & working well , except for the head unit... upgraded to another model that supports mp3 smile.gif

compared to my previous iswara, the monthly payment & periodical expenditure is stable, no more 'suprise' repairs here and there...
after all, i just want a car that is able to serve its purpose...
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QUOTE(vandread86 @ Aug 18 2010, 09:25 AM)
morning... newbie in getting a car here... ahahaha.. pick SAGA SE though for value for money... any tips on improving it more? (even i think it is perfect already) tongue.gif
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since it is new..don't mod ur engine sgt la..nnti warranty void
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post Aug 18 2010, 12:48 PM

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since it is new..don't mod ur engine sgt la..nnti warranty void
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i dont think i will mod my engine in near future.. just thinking about changing and improve other things.. ideas?
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the new peoples car, so many of my friends own one
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i have no idea..my car also stock..haha
wait until otai reply to u
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QUOTE(vandread86 @ Aug 18 2010, 12:48 PM)
i dont think i will mod my engine in near future.. just thinking about changing and improve other things.. ideas?
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Hi bro, how bout open pod filter + high performance plug cables + iridium plugs + racing cam pulley
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post Aug 18 2010, 02:07 PM

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Added on August 18, 2010, 2:08 pmxshiro, kindly LOCK the previous thread up. lup u~

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post Aug 18 2010, 02:45 PM

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Im a saga owner, 1.3 auto, add me to the list. smile.gif
anyway, guys, where to buy little tree air freshener? Last time i go proton service my car, the guy gave me a free one. Anywhere else that i can get it?
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many kedai runcit sold that..even kedai mamak pon ada jual
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many kedai runcit sold that..even kedai mamak pon ada jual
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huh serious ? LOL, mamak pon jual meh..
Any more specific place or wat?
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post Aug 18 2010, 03:31 PM

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i saw it at mamak barra at seksyen 7 shah alam...but i don't know if they still sell it or not...
try la search at jaya jusco...car section
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QUOTE(x_kink @ Aug 18 2010, 03:31 PM)
i saw it at mamak barra at seksyen 7 shah alam...but i don't know if they still sell it or not...
try la search at jaya jusco...car section
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QUOTE(yehlai @ Aug 18 2010, 12:53 PM)
Hi bro, how bout open pod filter + high performance plug cables + iridium plugs + racing cam pulley
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guys, when change spark plug at service centre, u all bring own or take whatever they offer ?
nearly 20k but next service at 22k, car 2 years already..can change earlier ? if change outside can ah ? how long =.="
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post Aug 18 2010, 04:42 PM

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hallo.............. PROTON SAGA BLMCLUB ................ version 11, keep up the good work guys and gals, this is a good sign indicating our ride is still selling/doing well in the market...........cheers.

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COngrat on v11.
That 1 giant also got sell smile.gif
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guys,im sick and tired of rattling sound coming from the driver's door.already done soundproofing on all 4 doors rm298 from autoworld but the sound still there dayum!

what can i do to eliminate the sound.anyone can help me?im willing to pay for ur service.pm me.
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SC cannot do?
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soundproof for rm298?what did they do on the doors?
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post Aug 18 2010, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(x_kink @ Aug 18 2010, 10:15 PM)
SC cannot do?
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sc cant do shit.tighten some screws/nuts say settle edi.dun wan to ckp byk coz that guy looked very paiseh one.not enuf sex maybe.
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hahaha..maybe his wife datang bulan..
i already heard many people complain about this door sound

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QUOTE(SiuYi @ Aug 18 2010, 10:17 PM)
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soundproof for rm298?what did they do on the doors?
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they put some metal sheets on the door for dampening and insuflex later on.good work i'd say coz my door feels very solid now.when close door also sound good.

but the rattling sound is still there daaaaayyyyuuuummm!
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Mostly the rattling sound is comes from the door panel,due to our malaysia weather...if is not the door panel,then is the iron inside,abit of bitumen needed oni...and lastly,is the twister behind our 2 doors,where it will rattles too when is not locked tightly...
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QUOTE(Wuakaka @ Aug 18 2010, 10:25 PM)
Mostly the rattling sound is comes from the door panel,due to our malaysia weather...if is not the door panel,then is the iron inside,abit of bitumen needed oni...and lastly,is the twister behind our 2 doors,where it will rattles too when is not locked tightly...
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boss,help me repair la.i pay u.i hv no effin idea what ur talkin about.hehehe.i really bad in this diy thing
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Would just like to get some feedbacks from Saga BLM owners here..how is the performance and reliability of the car so far for as long as you have had it? Still considering btwn saga and viva for a first car. Two totally different cars but i wanna get one that is really worth the money paid. 2 major issues i have with Saga is the resale value and reliability (as you all know,proton's reputation has been pretty bad over the years although i seem to read its been improving.) So..would appreciate some feedback to help me in my decision. Thanks!
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QUOTE(anneysays @ Aug 18 2010, 11:25 PM)
Would just like to get some feedbacks from Saga BLM owners here..how is the performance and reliability of the car so far for as long as you have had it? Still considering btwn saga and viva for a first car. Two totally different cars but i wanna get one that is really worth the money paid. 2 major issues i have with Saga is the resale value and reliability (as you all know,proton's reputation has been pretty bad over the years although i seem to read its been improving.) So..would appreciate some feedback to help me in my decision. Thanks!
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Bro get saga, atleast have airbag and boot if you want talk safety.
Viva have better fuel consumption.
Dont need to talk resale value, BLM is the cheapest sedan you can get in Malaysia.

One more thing, talk about look, BLM also looks better. White BLM looks not bad.

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QUOTE(anneysays @ Aug 18 2010, 11:25 PM)
Would just like to get some feedbacks from Saga BLM owners here..how is the performance and reliability of the car so far for as long as you have had it? Still considering btwn saga and viva for a first car. Two totally different cars but i wanna get one that is really worth the money paid. 2 major issues i have with Saga is the resale value and reliability (as you all know,proton's reputation has been pretty bad over the years although i seem to read its been improving.) So..would appreciate some feedback to help me in my decision. Thanks!
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Saga BLM's performance sucks. From a standstill, the car accelerates like its hauling a giant elephant behind. A sedan this heavy should never have a 1.3 litre engine.

In regards to other aspects such as safety, space and resale value, Saga BLM obviously beats the Viva. Trust me, you wouldn't want to get in an accident driving a Viva. Its very...fragile.



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QUOTE(Enclave Recruit @ Aug 18 2010, 11:43 PM)
Saga BLM's performance sucks. From a standstill, the car accelerates like its hauling a giant elephant behind. A sedan this heavy should never have a 1.3 litre engine.

In regards to other aspects such as safety, space and resale value, Saga BLM obviously beats the Viva. Trust me, you wouldn't want to get in an accident driving a Viva. Its very...fragile.
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Thanks for your feedback smile.gif Hm yeah saga is definitely better in terms of safety and space. But i thought that resale value for proton cars are not as good as perodua..even a 7-8 yr old kelisa can still fetch a 2nd hand value of nearly 20k.. and i seem to be hearing alot of issues abt the viva being very fragile too lol. but it should be of the same standard as kancil/kelisa in terms of that? Its just that..the Saga BLM is only 3.5k more than viva. So i really cant decide which one to get. but viva will consume less fuel la for sure cos of the smaller engine..
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QUOTE(anneysays @ Aug 18 2010, 11:53 PM)
Thanks for your feedback smile.gif Hm yeah saga is definitely better in terms of safety and space. But i thought that resale value for proton cars are not as good as perodua..even a 7-8 yr old kelisa can still fetch a 2nd hand value of nearly 20k.. and i seem to be hearing alot of issues abt the viva being very fragile too lol. but it should be of the same standard as kancil/kelisa in terms of that? Its just that..the Saga BLM is only 3.5k more than viva. So i really cant decide which one to get. but viva will consume less fuel la for sure cos of the smaller engine..
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Your life is much more important and valuable so I would suggest forking out the extra 3.5K. True, the Saga's petrol consumption is higher but it provides better protection and more space for its occupants. It is also better looking car. In terms of quality, Proton has somewhat improved over the years although problems do occur occasionally (depending on your luck...Proton's QC is hit or miss affair). Resale value for Proton is not as bad as it was a decade ago. Anyway, you are only spending 40K for a car so you don't lose much compared to other marques.

P/S - Just by looking at the Viva, you can tell that it's a very fragile car.

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overall saga better than viva..
if u not planing 2 sell off ur car in 5yrs time den u nonid 2 care about the 2nd hand value..
08 saga used car stil can take 26k-28k.. lost around 10k for 2yrs consider ok d..
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i just had an accident yesterday where my driver's side door is scratched + dented and there just a little scratch on the right side passenger door

so should I repaint my car first (driver side door) or polish the car then go for repaint
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QUOTE(anneysays @ Aug 18 2010, 11:53 PM)
Thanks for your feedback smile.gif Hm yeah saga is definitely better in terms of safety and space. But i thought that resale value for proton cars are not as good as perodua..even a 7-8 yr old kelisa can still fetch a 2nd hand value of nearly 20k.. and i seem to be hearing alot of issues abt the viva being very fragile too lol. but it should be of the same standard as kancil/kelisa in terms of that? Its just that..the Saga BLM is only 3.5k more than viva. So i really cant decide which one to get. but viva will consume less fuel la for sure cos of the smaller engine..
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Seems like the only thing keeping you from buying the Saga is the resale value.

Think of it this way: do you plan to sell the car in the next 3 years? 5 years? If not, then don't bother about the resale value, as eventually everything will hit a floor price and even out in the long run. If yes, then I think you know what to do.

As for fragility, what people mean is in an accident. The car is small. I would not expect the car to do well in an accident. I don't blame the car. It's the laws of physics.
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bros, my car 2 years already..recently just serviced 15k service at 17k.
should i change my timing belt/filter etc ? i read somewhere that timing belt are recommended to change every 80k/1yr.
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timing belt replacement still long to go some say 40k officially 80k, which filter ?
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my question from previous thread,no1 know ah?? sad.gif

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anneysays, my gf just bought a viva elite (more expensive than my saga blm m-line doh.gif )...seriously...no power...door is so thin...and the car is so light..space is limited...saga blm is definitly more solid and if safety is important...why not a saga...better package..

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boss,help me repair la.i pay u.i hv no effin idea what ur talkin about.hehehe.i really bad in this diy thing
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come blmclub tt,but 1 thing is,u have covered the frame with soundproofing bitumen based thingy??
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QUOTE(xshiro @ Aug 19 2010, 01:44 PM)
anneysays, my gf just bought a viva elite (more expensive than my saga blm m-line  doh.gif )...seriously...no power...door is so thin...and the car is so light..space is limited...saga blm is definitly more solid and if safety is important...why not a saga...better package..
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I know what you mean. I can't speak for the Viva, but I drove a Kelisa for 4.5 years and when i made the switch to the Saga, the difference was huge. It handled better, was more comfortable, and the overall feel was more refined. Not to mention the space.

I guess the best thing is to test drive it. Then maybe anneysays will know what we mean.
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yes...saga is very comfortable
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guys, anyone here DIY installation of sound system? how you slip a wire thru to the door panel ah?
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i just poke a small hole via the rubber seal that sits between the door panel.
make sure it is small enough just nice to fit in the wires...don't want any water leaks in there..

i use a small tip soldering gun to make the hole, other accessories shop just prick it with a sharp object....


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oh. need poke the rubber ah? i tot can put the wire inside the rubber. hehe
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My brother's car get accident, sent to Proton Edar workshop for about 2 months still not yet fixed.
poor performance of Proton ... *sigh*
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wow..2 month is very long time..
what they need to fix?
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QUOTE(work_tgr @ Aug 19 2010, 03:15 PM)
My brother's car get accident, sent to Proton Edar workshop for about 2 months still not yet fixed.
poor performance of Proton ... *sigh*
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push them la...
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QUOTE(x_kink @ Aug 19 2010, 03:19 PM)
wow..2 month is very long time..
what they need to fix?
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air beg and engine in general.

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push them la...
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only one agent doing it .. and he hinted my brother that "raya is dekat" ... blink.gif and saying that only after raya could get back the car . Also he said that importing spare parts from west malaysia is taking time ....

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i pay rm30, and it slipped through automatically.LOL.

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make it this way, if u feel perodua made ur day, go ahead. if u wanna give a chance for BLM, then go for a test drive. resell value is plain shit for local cars, u get cheap drive, u save the hassle for having a depreciation there. with higher resell value, u pay more ahead. if i were to sell my BLM, why not i make it a 2nd car and get myself a new car instead? 1.3, roadtax not expensive what..who knows ur kids might need it one day as a practical use vehicle to stick the P sticker and get into the roads to practise their driving skills?
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QUOTE(work_tgr @ Aug 19 2010, 03:23 PM)
air beg and engine in general.
only one agent doing it .. and he hinted my brother that "raya is dekat" ...  blink.gif  and saying that only after raya could get back the car . Also he said that importing spare parts from west malaysia is taking time ....
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insist that u need to use for raya...
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QUOTE(xshiro @ Aug 19 2010, 03:40 PM)
insist that u need to use for raya...
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No use .... that agent play "tai chi" with my brother ... I really disappointed with Proton. I am first thinking to buy Saga. No more, I will go to buy perodua car.
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QUOTE(work_tgr @ Aug 19 2010, 03:43 PM)
No use .... that agent play "tai chi" with my brother ... I really disappointed with Proton. I am first thinking to buy Saga. No more, I will go to buy perodua car.
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my frend had an accident with his saga se, 1 week its done...it depends on the insurance and which workshop you are sending ur car...the agent is incompentent i would say...good luck

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QUOTE(xshiro @ Aug 19 2010, 03:57 PM)
my frend had an accident with his saga se, 1 week its done...it depends on the insurance and which workshop you are sending ur car...the agent is incompentent i would say...good luck
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By right, less than a month should get the car back. In my brother's case, insurance company had issued the claim. The problem is at proton's side. That agent is really incompentent and irresposible. Even my brother buzz him few times, he didnt bother to reply sms/ mail. sad.gif
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guys, anyone here DIY installation of sound system? how you slip a wire thru to the door panel ah?
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I know how to do but don't know how to describe...simple say, the tools u need is chopstick or thin stick, open the plastic kick panel and look at it, then use your creativity to slip a wire thru. (hints, stamp ur wire temporary to the 'head' of chopstick, then u know lo)... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Aug 19 2010, 04:11 PM)
I know how to do but don't know how to describe...simple say, the tools u need is chopstick or thin stick, open the plastic kick panel and look at it, then use your creativity to slip a wire thru. (hints, stamp ur wire temporary to the 'head' of chopstick, then u know lo)... tongue.gif
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wah use chopstick sumore ah.. hmm.. wait i go experiment this few days..
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QUOTE(aidlover @ Aug 19 2010, 04:19 PM)
wah use chopstick sumore ah.. hmm.. wait i go experiment this few days..
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nola, some thin and hard stick is enuf adi, because there are few wires inside the narrow rubber seal, so the hard stick + wire is easy to go through without stuck inside, the principle is same as sewing, stick=needle, wire=thread, do you get it? tongue.gif
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if u choose perodua because of proton's service, then it will be very lame. u guarantee perodua not being the same like them? if u got the claim already, why bother go back proton? ask aladin or "i dono what name" accident claiming garage to get ur car out from them and get fixed outside la. insist ori parts or GG.
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come blmclub tt,but 1 thing is,u have covered the frame with soundproofing bitumen based thingy??
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what u mean i dun quite understand bro.care to elaborate.
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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Aug 19 2010, 04:25 PM)
nola, some thin and hard stick is enuf adi, because there are few wires inside the narrow rubber seal, so the hard stick + wire is easy to go through without stuck inside, the principle is same as sewing, stick=needle, wire=thread, do you get it? tongue.gif
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one more thing. how to put tweeter on dashboard? there is no gap at all at the side to fit the wire in.. sad.gif
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[quote=haf 932,Aug 19 2010, 06:23 PM]
come blmclub tt,but 1 thing is,u have covered the frame with soundproofing bitumen based thingy??
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what u mean i dun quite understand bro.care to elaborate.
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swt....ur Rm 398,is install at door frame rite??wat is the material??isit bitumen based??cover whole piece rite??

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QUOTE(aidlover @ Aug 20 2010, 12:44 AM)
one more thing. how to put tweeter on dashboard? there is no gap at all at the side to fit the wire in.. sad.gif
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You have to take out A-pillar plastic cover before you can insert the wire. Before you open the cover, you need to pull out the rubber frame at the door frame (just pull out the part that cover the A-pillar plastic cover), after pull out the rubber, u will know what to do. tongue.gif


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this morning i notice when i lock the car using the alarm..not all door locked..
this can be solve at SC?
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QUOTE(xshiro @ Aug 19 2010, 02:44 PM)
anneysays, my gf just bought a viva elite (more expensive than my saga blm m-line  doh.gif )...seriously...no power...door is so thin...and the car is so light..space is limited...saga blm is definitly more solid and if safety is important...why not a saga...better package..
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wait till after3rd service on u give comment~
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My brother's car get accident, sent to Proton Edar workshop for about 2 months still not yet fixed.
poor performance of Proton ... *sigh*
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timing belt replacement still long to go some say 40k officially 80k, which filter ?
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Timing belt can last for 100,000km but recommend to change every 80,000km cause reason of traffic jam, car warm up and your engine is still running.

QUOTE(xshiro @ Aug 19 2010, 01:44 PM)
anneysays, my gf just bought a viva elite (more expensive than my saga blm m-line  doh.gif )...seriously...no power...door is so thin...and the car is so light..space is limited...saga blm is definitly more solid and if safety is important...why not a saga...better package..
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Because viva is Daihatsu engine and our BLM is Proton engine.

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QUOTE(Rascal Stitch @ Aug 20 2010, 10:05 AM)
if got sure no prob~  flex.gif
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did u troubleshoot urself b4 going SC? open all doors and close it tightly again, and try.
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QUOTE(SiuYi @ Aug 20 2010, 12:01 PM)
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did u troubleshoot urself b4 going SC? open all doors and close it tightly again, and try.
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i already test it...the problem is only at the front passenger door..
it looks like it stuck..but when i lock it manually..no problem
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QUOTE(Rascal Stitch @ Aug 20 2010, 10:05 AM)
wait till after3rd service on u give comment~
it's still early to give comment wen a new car isn't fully run in yet~ brows.gif  brows.gif
depends on ur got fren/ppl in insurance or not only~
if got sure no prob~  flex.gif
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ok will wait..but its not bad la...1st gear ada kick..

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anyone face problem while driving off and on can hear like "cit cit" sound coming from engine area? my car got this weird sound dunno why but i dont feel any problem with the car, just off an on got this weird sound..wonder if its IAFM issue
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QUOTE(CyberKewl @ Aug 20 2010, 10:46 PM)
anyone face problem while driving off and on can hear like "cit cit" sound coming from engine area? my car got this weird sound dunno why but i dont feel any problem with the car, just off an on got this weird sound..wonder if its IAFM issue
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Mine got this sound also. Usually in morning. After warm up the engine, the sound is gone.


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QUOTE(CyberKewl @ Aug 20 2010, 10:46 PM)
anyone face problem while driving off and on can hear like "cit cit" sound coming from engine area? my car got this weird sound dunno why but i dont feel any problem with the car, just off an on got this weird sound..wonder if its IAFM issue
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belt?
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QUOTE(CyberKewl @ Aug 20 2010, 10:46 PM)
anyone face problem while driving off and on can hear like "cit cit" sound coming from engine area? my car got this weird sound dunno why but i dont feel any problem with the car, just off an on got this weird sound..wonder if its IAFM issue
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More like a belt...like not much lubricant on it. Ask your Sc people to put some oil or lubricant on the belt.
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hello, where can i test drive blm ?
planning to get blm or pesona elegance.
in shah alam area.
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QUOTE(CyberKewl @ Aug 20 2010, 10:46 PM)
anyone face problem while driving off and on can hear like "cit cit" sound coming from engine area? my car got this weird sound dunno why but i dont feel any problem with the car, just off an on got this weird sound..wonder if its IAFM issue
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The noise "cit cit" when your air-cond kick in or sometime the belt suddenly turning fast? If i not mistaken is tensioner bearing.

There is a special belt condition to spray on belt and worry that SC ppl might don have this and dunno what will they spray for you.
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QUOTE(farid_cool @ Aug 21 2010, 07:53 AM)
hello, where can i test drive blm ?
planning to get blm or pesona elegance.
in shah alam area.
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cit cit sound are normally cause by belts, do not simply put oil to the belt as this might lead to no grip..................the easy way is try rubbing candles to the belt and see if the sound can reduce............ just my opinion, cheers................
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QUOTE(C2KBAS2005 @ Aug 21 2010, 11:49 AM)
cit cit sound are normally cause by belts, do not simply put oil to the belt as this might lead to no grip..................the easy way is try rubbing candles to the belt and see if the sound can reduce............ just my opinion, cheers................
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if i send my car to SC will they know what to check and fix?
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Your life is much more important and valuable so I would suggest forking out the extra 3.5K. True, the Saga's petrol consumption is higher but it provides better protection and more space for its occupants. It is also better looking car. In terms of quality, Proton has somewhat improved over the years although problems do occur occasionally (depending on your luck...Proton's QC is hit or miss affair). Resale value for Proton is not as bad as it was a decade ago. Anyway, you are only spending 40K for a car so you don't lose much compared to other marques.

P/S - Just by looking at the Viva, you can tell that it's a very fragile car.
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QUOTE(klng72 @ Aug 19 2010, 12:14 AM)
overall saga better than viva..
if u not planing 2 sell off ur car in 5yrs time den u nonid 2 care about the 2nd hand value..
08 saga used car stil can take 26k-28k.. lost around 10k for 2yrs consider ok d..
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Seems like the only thing keeping you from buying the Saga is the resale value.

Think of it this way: do you plan to sell the car in the next 3 years? 5 years? If not, then don't bother about the resale value, as eventually everything will hit a floor price and even out in the long run. If yes, then I think you know what to do.

As for fragility, what people mean is in an accident. The car is small. I would not expect the car to do well in an accident. I don't blame the car. It's the laws of physics.
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QUOTE(xshiro @ Aug 19 2010, 01:44 PM)
anneysays, my gf just bought a viva elite (more expensive than my saga blm m-line  doh.gif )...seriously...no power...door is so thin...and the car is so light..space is limited...saga blm is definitly more solid and if safety is important...why not a saga...better package..
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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Aug 19 2010, 02:07 PM)
I know what you mean. I can't speak for the Viva, but I drove a Kelisa for 4.5 years and when i made the switch to the Saga, the difference was huge. It handled better, was more comfortable, and the overall feel was more refined. Not to mention the space.

I guess the best thing is to test drive it. Then maybe anneysays will know what we mean.
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QUOTE(SiuYi @ Aug 19 2010, 03:27 PM)
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i pay rm30, and it slipped through automatically.LOL.

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make it this way, if u feel perodua made ur day, go ahead. if u wanna give a chance for BLM, then go for a test drive. resell value is plain shit for local cars, u get cheap drive, u save the hassle for having a depreciation there. with higher resell value, u pay more ahead. if i were to sell my BLM, why not i make it a 2nd car and get myself a new car instead? 1.3, roadtax not expensive what..who knows ur kids might need it one day as a practical use vehicle to stick the P sticker and get into the roads to practise their driving skills?
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Gosh thanks so much everyone for your feedbacks!I got the most helpful ones here compared to some other threads hahah. Well i finally got to test drive both the viva and saga today. Basically, the viva is of course,easier to drive but the seat is EXTREMELY comfortable!I don't know if its adjustable or not but something about the angle makes me have to sit up so straight and..gosh just super uncomfortable hahaha. The interior looks very...plastic-ky and cheap looking(no offense to viva users) and then i tested the door sound cos i read ALOT of people online saying,the door sounds like milo tin when you close it.I now understand what they mean lolll. (the salesman mentioned the Segamat accident also)

I then got to tried the saga..the wheel,gearbox and pedal felt SUPER heavy and stiff. But the salesman said that the one i tried was one of the earliest batch and they've improved on those in the new batches dy. I didnt get to test the new batch,but he said its very light, even too light for him it seems. So,just wanna check,is this true for those of you who have just gotten the car recently? In terms of interior and comfort,Saga definitely wins hands down lol. i LOVE the meter panel btw haha. But the back manual windows and car lock arent so good..

I then asked him, which car would he personally recommend me and he said, it depends on what i need. I prefer the saga more for several reasons such as space,comfort,design,safety,value for money. The main disadvantage is just the fc due to higher cc and the resale value. I plan (for now) to keep the car for at least 5 years. I might sell it,i might keep it(less likely). The salesman said someone just traded in a 2 yr old saga for 30k..so for now,still okay. So i think i kinda know which car im leaning more towards but..just slightly hesitant abit lol. And oh,the saga's engine noise is super loud also >< i found out it was because it uses a big fan where else perodua cars uses small fan. lol.

I read alot of you here commenting abt the door noise?Is it a common issue?I forgot to check earlier during the test drive.

The salesman really likes the Persona though. Full of praises for it hahaha.and apparantly very few customers complains also.but im not taking that into consideration cos i dont need(and dont like) such a big car haha.

sorry cerita grandmother story pula sweat.gif

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then? what's ur conclusion?

make it this way:

my dad, yeah, my dad. he drove kancil 850 before, company car, complain like shit.then safety precaution, zero level. his conclusion, small cars aint safe. u dun drive recklessly, people does. why saga? CHEAP! who cares the depreciation rate, we just need a vehicle, and saga is a SALOON ride. that's for sure. viva? yeah, my sis bought 1, why? coz she wan a cheap auto, and saga auto aint cheap, she wants a smaller car, coz her driving skill sucks. parking at town area is deep shit for her.hahaha. so u know why i tell u so? each car got pro and con, if money is not an issue for u, get a better ride. if money is ur problem, saga BLM is ur only choice.
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QUOTE(anneysays @ Aug 21 2010, 08:34 PM)
Gosh thanks so much everyone for your feedbacks!I got the most helpful ones here compared to some other threads hahah. Well i finally got to test drive both the viva and saga today. Basically, the viva is of course,easier to drive but the seat is EXTREMELY comfortable!I don't know if its adjustable or not but something about the angle makes me have to sit up so straight and..gosh just super uncomfortable hahaha. The interior looks very...plastic-ky and cheap looking(no offense to viva users) and then i tested the door sound cos i read ALOT of people online saying,the door sounds like milo tin when you close it.I now understand what they mean lolll. (the salesman mentioned the Segamat accident also)

I then got to tried the saga..the wheel,gearbox and pedal felt SUPER heavy and stiff. But the salesman said that the one i tried was one of the earliest batch and they've improved on those in the new batches dy. I didnt get to test the new batch,but he said its very light, even too light for him it seems. So,just wanna check,is this true for those of you who have just gotten the car recently? In terms of interior and comfort,Saga definitely wins hands down lol. i LOVE the meter panel btw haha. But the back manual windows and car lock arent so good..

I then asked him, which car would he personally recommend me and he said, it depends on what i need. I prefer the saga more for several reasons such as space,comfort,design,safety,value for money. The main disadvantage is just the fc due to higher cc and the resale value. I plan (for now) to keep the car for at least 5 years. I might sell it,i might keep it(less likely). The salesman said someone just traded in a 2 yr old saga for 30k..so for now,still okay. So i think i kinda know which car im leaning more towards but..just slightly hesitant abit lol. And oh,the saga's engine noise is super loud also >< i found out it was because it uses a big fan where else perodua cars uses small fan. lol.

I read alot of you here commenting abt the door noise?Is it a common issue?I forgot to check earlier during the test drive.

The salesman really likes the Persona though. Full of praises for it hahaha.and apparantly very few customers complains also.but im not taking that into consideration cos i dont need(and dont like) such a big car haha.

sorry cerita grandmother story pula  sweat.gif
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One more huge different between these two, dun know whether u notice or not.

Saga suspension is ALOT better than Peroduo car, their two famous car, Viva and Myvi bumpy like hell when u ride on uneven road.
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QUOTE(anneysays @ Aug 21 2010, 08:34 PM)
I then got to tried the saga..the wheel,gearbox and pedal felt SUPER heavy and stiff. But the salesman said that the one i tried was one of the earliest batch and they've improved on those in the new batches dy. I didnt get to test the new batch,but he said its very light, even too light for him it seems. So,just wanna check,is this true for those of you who have just gotten the car recently? In terms of interior and comfort,Saga definitely wins hands down lol. i LOVE the meter panel btw haha. But the back manual windows and car lock arent so good..

I read alot of you here commenting abt the door noise?Is it a common issue?I forgot to check earlier during the test drive.

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The heavy steering provides a better driving experience as more steering input is required from the driver. In contrast, Viva and Myvi's steering is lighter which requires less effort from the driver but it is also less fun and less involving. The door noise occurs to only some drivers not all. Depends on your luck. Yes, the meter panel is cool with the amber lighting. GO and buy the SE, even cooler brows.gif



In an unrelated subject, I just scraped my right wheel arch against a pillar cry.gif

I shed a few tears...my beautiful wife is scarred.

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Is this serious guys? Only requires touch up paint right?

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The heavy steering provides a better driving experience as more steering input is required from the driver. In contrast, Viva and Myvi's steering is lighter which requires less effort from the driver but it is also less fun and less involving. The door noise occurs to only some drivers not all. Depends on your luck. Yes, the meter panel is cool with the amber lighting. GO and buy the SE, even cooler  brows.gif
In an unrelated subject, I just scraped my right wheel arch against a pillar  cry.gif

light steering is good for other cars. but ffor perodua, if you drive highway, you will know..

I shed a few tears...my beautiful wife is scarred.

Is this serious guys? Only requires touch up paint right?
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how about adding skirting? time to pimp your wife.. tongue.gif
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din realise.. sweat.gif sweat.gif
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Greetings,

Does anyone here experience on the power window started to get noisy when you are driving through bumpy roads doesn't matter its wind down or wind up (closed) ?

Any idea how to solve it ? It seems like the gap in between the Window glass is getting wider.
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QUOTE(pocketcctv @ Aug 22 2010, 10:42 AM)
Greetings,

Does anyone here experience on the power window started to get noisy when you are driving through bumpy roads doesn't matter its wind down or wind up (closed) ?

Any idea how to solve it ? It seems like the gap in between the Window glass is getting wider.
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how to join this club?
i have saga BLm too...
but its standard.
can join also bro??
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this is only a forum, if the official club, please join at www.blmclub.co.cc, register as a user there and enjoy ur stay as well. standard or not, it is still a saga BLM.
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owh..sorry.
tq for the info.
i will register there.

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i'm already registered...using name wafi smile.gif
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whats ur car spec? color? i forgot to put on owner list.. sweat.gif
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hey guys, can u give me some comments if our BLM is fitted with such mod? does it look so bodoh? berlagak?

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hey guys, can u give me some comments if our BLM is fitted with such mod? does it look so bodoh? berlagak?

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QUOTE(SiuYi @ Aug 23 2010, 10:07 AM)
hey guys, can u give me some comments if our BLM is fitted with such mod? does it look so bodoh? berlagak?

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bright is the issue of the lens, not the led.haha.

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QUOTE(SiuYi @ Aug 23 2010, 10:07 AM)
hey guys, can u give me some comments if our BLM is fitted with such mod? does it look so bodoh? berlagak?

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front hood and bumper very nice !!
i think its cool, but many ppl willsay sagalution

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agree with dvine...
the front look is very nice...suited with white color..

just want to ask..this is blm?
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i mean the led la..not the bodykit..LOL

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Siu Yi,
Personally, I'm the kinda guy who likes low profile stuff. Not car profile yeah, lol. I don't like such flashy stuffs.

Btw, anybody tried that BHP Infinity x2?

I dunno if it's a placebo effect or not, but my car suddenly feels more revvier ... acceleration seems easier ... i duno why ....
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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Aug 23 2010, 05:38 PM)
Siu Yi,
Personally, I'm the kinda guy who likes low profile stuff. Not car profile yeah, lol. I don't like such flashy stuffs.

Btw, anybody tried that BHP Infinity x2?

I dunno if it's a placebo effect or not, but my car suddenly feels more revvier ... acceleration seems easier ... i duno why ....
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It does feel more powerful even I was using the RON95.
But I notice that it finished quicker too... Not sure If it was Happy Feet or what.
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regarding the led under the car and rims, i was planning on those.hahaha.however the effect in the photo was overflashy, i think that was camera effect..

my question is: will u feel funny if a cheap BLM install those flashy things under their ride, and drive around the town? ofcoz if its an RX7 or skyline R35, u wont say they're stupid, as they look smart already. howabout with a saga BLM? will u think it is like poor people's modification?
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QUOTE(SiuYi @ Aug 23 2010, 10:07 AM)
hey guys, can u give me some comments if our BLM is fitted with such mod? does it look so bodoh? berlagak?

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looks like Vios to me.

Anyways, I just record my FC recently and the result is something that can not be proud of. I got approximately 20cent per KM. City driving. Only done 1000km service using Petronas semi-synthetic and only fuel with RON95 Petronas and now my mileage is about 2500++km.

Going to do another one after this. See how it goes. How about yours???

Btw, Im using Auto, M-Line.

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QUOTE(kari_convention @ Aug 24 2010, 09:40 AM)
Going to do another one after this. See how it goes. How about yours???

Btw, Im using Auto, M-Line.
yours is normal/but quite high i think. like mine (auto) months ago.
now mileage is 4500km, FC is about 0.16cent/km.
hope later after 5k service, the FC will be good.
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QUOTE(milenia98 @ Aug 24 2010, 01:30 PM)
yours is normal/but quite high i think. like mine (auto) months ago.
now mileage is 4500km, FC is about 0.16cent/km.
hope later after 5k service, the FC will be good.
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My mileage is similar to yours. Just completed first service and now somewhere around 3000++ km.

However, my FC is slightly better. I'm getting around 10km/l, which translates to about 0.18/km. Auto, btw.

What engine oil are you using? What road do you use regularly? Are you stuck in jam most of the time? What is your average speed? Do you maintain your tyre pressure regularly?

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lazy wan complain about FC dy

driving 50% highway, 50% city, i get 9km/L or 11L/100km

driving 90% highway, 10% city, i get 13km/L or 7,7L/100km

so also consider makan minyak if drive town road. haih
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Auto normal la, my auto 50k mileage, 16-18cent, those days manage to get 15cent now dono why cannot.
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QUOTE(-storm- @ Aug 24 2010, 07:40 PM)
Auto normal la, my auto 50k mileage, 16-18cent, those days manage to get 15cent now dono why cannot.
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Aiyo, engine will degrade one ma, spark plug, O2 sensor, loosen piston ring, dirty fuel injector, carbon inside engine, u really think FC will non-stop improve after long run ah? nonsense for me.
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my auto can get around 300km with full tank...
70% drive in city
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my auto can get something around 240km+ with full tank..
100% city drive.. lol, does it consider bad or..?
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gxianfu, x_kink, added you guys to the owner list already. sorry for the late response.

my saga nowadays can get 200km for rm50 petrol..mix driving...ron97 btw...my engine still in running in process.. tongue.gif

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so far only heard mr_alien's auto can get good FC..others all seems like very bad FC for auto...actually my manual is not so good also compared to my 4 year old myvi manual 1.0. Myvi 1.0 can get 15.2 KM / L while my saga only can get 12 KM / L average. But then again, maybe cos I speed kao kao up to 120-140 KM / H daily..haha
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QUOTE(xshiro @ Aug 25 2010, 06:42 AM)
gxianfu, x_kink, added you guys to the owner list already. sorry for the late response.

my saga nowadays can get 200km for rm50 petrol..mix driving...ron97 btw...my engine still in running in process.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(CyberKewl @ Aug 25 2010, 07:31 AM)
so far only heard mr_alien's auto can get good FC..others all seems like very bad FC for auto...actually my manual is not so good also compared to my 4 year old myvi manual 1.0. Myvi 1.0 can get 15.2 KM / L while my saga only can get 12 KM / L average. But then again, maybe cos I speed kao kao up to 120-140 KM / H daily..haha
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sheeeeet ..

you speed so much can get good FC!?!?

Maybe I should speed as well!! tongue.gif
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my auto could get 350-380km for RM53, 80% on highway 20% traffic icon_rolleyes.gif

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You're avging like roughly 12 - 13km/l which is quite good for an auto.

You're doing good. The Saga really suffers from traffic jams, yours is mostly highway, so it's all within expectations.

As for me, I'm pretty sure my 10km/l is due to my bad habit of accelerating really hard, especially when I'm angry. Which is often. lol. I drive a lot in traffic jams as well, practically half the time, I think.
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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Aug 25 2010, 04:04 PM)
You're avging like roughly 12 - 13km/l which is quite good for an auto.

You're doing good. The Saga really suffers from traffic jams, yours is mostly highway, so it's all within expectations.

As for me, I'm pretty sure my 10km/l is due to my bad habit of accelerating really hard, especially when I'm angry. Which is often. lol. I drive a lot in traffic jams as well, practically half the time, I think.
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tell you what. based on experience. if slow moving right. try not to press brake and just slow down the car.

saga tends to makan minyak more when the car is stationary and then you press to jalan.


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hey guys, i just wanna check..the CD player for Saga, the CD is inserted infront or is the CD player located in the boot? Like the old waja, the CD player is at the back,so have to open the boot to put the CD in lol.
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QUOTE(anneysays @ Aug 25 2010, 09:30 PM)
hey guys, i just wanna check..the CD player for Saga, the CD is inserted infront or is the CD player located in the boot? Like the old waja, the CD player is at the back,so have to open the boot to put the CD in lol.
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har???why have to open boot to put a CD into the player?


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sheeeeet ..

you speed so much can get good FC!?!?

Maybe I should speed as well!! tongue.gif
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if u drive manual i think my FC is just OK only, not good. Maybe I will try to go slow on my car next month onwards see if FC can improve or not.

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Trust me... Get a nice ICE system and you'll drive as slow as you can to really enjoy and listen to it.
LOL

Anyway my FC is like around RM0.165 average... Best ever for town driving and highway combine was around RM0.14
If i drive slow and use as little brake as possible.


TRY THIS!:
When you want to slow down or stop, try to use as little brake as possible to let your car slow down. Instead of slowing down your car by using your brake (which is a waste of energy, which general unwanted heat and harm the environment more) lift up your pedals whenever you see cars starting to step on the brake pedal from far away...
AND OF CAUSE, one of the best tip for knowing when to stop is to NOT TAIL GATE and leave a HUGE GAP between you and the car in front of you. This is actually A LOT SAFER to drive and LESS TENSION while you drive. rclxm9.gif

Just pop in your favourite CD or tune into your favourite radio station and enjoy the moments smile.gif
Especially for those who has a GF/Wife, you all should know what I mean (In a good way of cause!) wub.gif

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[quote=CyberKewl,Aug 25 2010, 09:52 PM]
har???why have to open boot to put a CD into the player?

lol cos the cd player is at the back (in the boot). so have to put the cd inside there first and then choose the songs infront hahaha. old waja la.but now i dont know.
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[quote=anneysays,Aug 25 2010, 10:31 PM]
[quote=CyberKewl,Aug 25 2010, 09:52 PM]
har???why have to open boot to put a CD into the player?

lol cos the cd player is at the back (in the boot). so have to put the cd inside there first and then choose the songs infront hahaha. old waja la.but now i dont know.
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So weird..never heard got such CD player before unless its a CD changer i suppose? Anyway, saga's CD is in front, so no issue.
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did my 16k service today..
Rm300+ .. normal service + clean throttle body ..
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QUOTE(x_kink @ Aug 25 2010, 04:48 PM)
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QUOTE(aidlover @ Aug 25 2010, 06:32 PM)
tell you what. based on experience. if slow moving right. try not to press brake and just slow down the car.

saga tends to makan minyak more when the car is stationary and then you press to jalan.
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I try lar. But fail often. Hahaha

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har???why have to open boot to put a CD into the player?


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if u drive manual i think my FC is just OK only, not good. Maybe I will try to go slow on my car next month onwards see if FC can improve or not.
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Try to keep a constant speed below 100kph. Reducing start/stop and avoiding hard acceleration do wonders for FC. And keep your tyres pumped!!
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QUOTE(fesick @ Aug 25 2010, 11:19 PM)
did my 16k service today..
Rm300+ .. normal service + clean throttle body ..
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everything rm300? or gotta plus normal service and clean throttle body sumore? how come so expensive 1? service in proton's service center isit?

Btw, I heard comments from my friends that servicing your car at dealer's service center such as perodua, proton, honda, toyota... is very expensive and it's better to just service in those normal bengkel since the service they provide is similiar, but much cheaper. Is that true? Is servicing the car at normal bengkel fine to go with?
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QUOTE(DaBestOne @ Aug 26 2010, 09:09 AM)
everything rm300? or gotta plus normal service and clean throttle body sumore? how come so expensive 1? service in proton's service center isit?

Btw, I heard comments from my friends that servicing your car at dealer's service center such as perodua, proton, honda, toyota... is very expensive and it's better to just service in those normal bengkel since the service they provide is similiar, but much cheaper. Is that true? Is servicing the car at normal bengkel fine to go with?
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u service normal workshop = ur warranty void.....people service at Authorised Service center just to keep warranty running only.
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Hi anybody replaced the following :-

1) Brake Fluid (how many litre used?)
2) Power Steering Fluid (how many litre used?)
3) Fuel Filter (Did we really need to change this?)

My blm has clocked 60k km.. when i check in the manual book what needed to replace see quite a lot of things.. haha
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Anyone here using height adjustable coilvers? The rear are one pieces design or separate as original, adjust the height by spring. What brand?
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QUOTE(muslayer @ Aug 26 2010, 09:14 AM)
u service normal workshop = ur warranty void.....people service at  Authorised Service center just to keep warranty running only.
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WOW!! I didn't know about that.. hmm...warranty void as in the whole warranty?
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u kacau engine, so engine warranty void lor. u kacau radio, so radio waranty void lor..u kacao wirings or boards, then wiring warranty gone lor.
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QUOTE(SiuYi @ Aug 26 2010, 05:29 PM)
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u kacau engine, so engine warranty void lor. u kacau radio, so radio waranty void lor..u kacao wirings or boards, then wiring warranty gone lor.
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Hehehe, so in this case, I service change engine oil only ma most of the time.. so warranty engine void?
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If you dont have the service chop the warranty is as good as gone.
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hi guys,
if not mistaken last time got some forumer here complain about water leaking inside rear boot.
I just realize my car have the same issue recently while send my car for wash.
what to do; is this common?
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Just out of curiosity, does manual Saga owners feel a significant power loss when the air-con compressor kicks in even if you floor the accelerator?

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Just out of curiosity, does manual Saga owners feel a significant power loss when the air-con compressor kicks in even if you floor the accelerator?
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its common thing for low cc car. even myvi feels it. perhaps u wont feel a thing driving 2.0cc above car.
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QUOTE(klk89 @ Aug 26 2010, 09:16 PM)
Just out of curiosity, does manual Saga owners feel a significant power loss when the air-con compressor kicks in even if you floor the accelerator?
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Normal.
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Ohh..I see. Coz I am driving an auto Saga. Can feel the power loss even driving through normal road. So just wanna see whether does manual owners suffer the same problem too.
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Dear all BLM members, my car has been one of the first batch of BLM which came out in March 2008. My car has been covered for 29000 km till now and I've been to SC for service every 10k. Problem is, starting from 9000km, there's been this kind of rattling metal sound appearing from time to time (Sometimes got sometimes it doesnt appear).

Please listen to the sound in the Youtube below from the 48th second till 1 min 11 second...


Rattling Sound - Youtube

The sound is extremely irritating. And I've sent it to SC for checking twice d. And in both occasion, the car just didnt produce the sound when the mechanics drive the car for a round!!! Only after when i drive the sound appear again! The first time I thought it was IAFM fault, so the SC was kind to replace the IAFM in my 10000 km service. Then the noise continues to appear. The car was sent 2nd time for checking and the mechanics just tell me that the exhaust was loose and they just tight back the exhaust pipe. The problem until now still exist and I've been tired of going to SC cuz it's been so wasting my time. Can any 1 tell me what's wrong with my car?

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QUOTE(kaizou @ Aug 26 2010, 09:31 PM)
its common thing for low cc car. even myvi feels it. perhaps u wont feel a thing driving 2.0cc above car.
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The way you are saying it.... myvi is more powerful than Saga? Both are 1.3cc
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QUOTE(fesick @ Aug 25 2010, 11:19 PM)
did my 16k service today..
Rm300+ .. normal service + clean throttle body ..
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noob here, what is clean throttle body ? i never do before..
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QUOTE(klk89 @ Aug 26 2010, 10:13 PM)
Ohh..I see. Coz I am driving an auto Saga. Can feel the power loss even driving through normal road. So just wanna see whether does manual owners suffer the same problem too.
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install VS can help a bit..at least for me..
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QUOTE(dvinez @ Aug 26 2010, 11:00 PM)
install VS can help a bit..at least for me..
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But I think not much improvement over torque dip due to air-con compressor kicks in? More like voltage stabiliser for electronic stuff.
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QUOTE(rainbowcyan @ Aug 26 2010, 10:44 PM)
Dear all BLM members, my car has been one of the first batch of BLM which came out in March 2008. My car has been covered for 29000 km till now and I've been to SC for service every 10k. Problem is, starting from 9000km, there's been this kind of rattling metal sound appearing from time to time (Sometimes got sometimes it doesnt appear).

Please listen to the sound in the Youtube below from the 48th second till 1 min 11 second...


Rattling Sound - Youtube

The sound is extremely irritating. And I've sent it to SC for checking twice d. And in both occasion, the car just didnt produce the sound when the mechanics drive the car for a round!!! Only after when i drive the sound appear again! The first time I thought it was IAFM fault, so the SC was kind to replace the IAFM in my 10000 km service. Then the noise continues to appear. The car was sent 2nd time for checking and the mechanics just tell me that the exhaust was loose and they just tight back the exhaust pipe. The problem until now still exist and I've been tired of going to SC cuz it's been so wasting my time. Can any 1 tell me what's wrong with my car?
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bro having the same exact issue
its like something is loose
i had it since they replaced the iafm module
then i open up the engine cover to check - found out that the screws they use to cover the iafm is loose - so the air intake module rattles (moves)
need to replace all the screws
i ask the sc to replace it they say proton dont give them screws only provide iafm
one of the mechanic kind enough used a heat resistant circular rubber (dunno use at which part of car) and help me cucuk in between the gap
at least now dont have that weird sound any longer
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Dear all, my car mileage is approaching 30k. Any of you guys till go back 2 Proton SC ? May i know how much it cost for this 30k service ? What they change this time ?
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QUOTE(dvinez @ Aug 26 2010, 10:59 PM)
noob here, what is clean throttle body ? i never do before..
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i dont know how to explain further on this.. im no pro tongue.gif
but the mechanic who service my car says that the t.body is dirty and it need to be clean up as it can affect the fuel consumption
usually its done during major service.. err, maybe our taikorr here can explain more smile.gif

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QUOTE(yeewensmc @ Aug 27 2010, 07:51 AM)
Dear all, my car mileage is approaching 30k. Any of you guys till go back 2 Proton SC ? May i know how much it cost for this 30k service ? What they change this time ?
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Not much...refer below... tongue.gif
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Enjoy the service... whistling.gif

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What is procare? >.<

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seems like eon price is way higher than proton when comes to service

is it possible to change warranty from eon to proton
i hate the way they handle my car here at melaka

since i send to them my left side door got noise leaking in
each time i tell them they change the rubber seal and it still leaks

got once my engine oil was leaking from the top head they told me need to replace the rubber seal and charge me RM70 incl workmanship
isnt this suppose to be covered by their warranty?

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QUOTE(jaya_pc87 @ Aug 27 2010, 03:54 AM)
bro having the same exact issue
its like something is loose
i had it since they replaced the iafm module
then i open up the engine cover to check  - found out that the screws they use to cover the iafm is loose - so the air intake module rattles (moves)
need to replace all the screws
i ask the sc to replace it they say proton dont give them screws only provide iafm
one of the mechanic kind enough used a heat resistant circular rubber (dunno use at which part of car) and help me cucuk in between the gap
at least now dont have that weird sound any longer
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i tink i have the same problem too,i tot is my bullet patah ad,== u got any idea how to solve tis??wat is the screw size?which sc u went?
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Recommend me good service center in ipoh please.
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guys, pls give some idea..
my rear plate number, i want it just plain black plate with number..
want get rid those best blablablabla of the year shakehead.gif ..
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QUOTE(giveme5 @ Aug 27 2010, 11:03 AM)
Not much...refer below... tongue.gif
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Thanks mate ! I'm using the Procare advance with the fully syn oil... from the pricing you provide, do they flush my ATF oil ? Some of my mates done @ 20k ... some @ 40k .. wa like tat very inconsistent wo... Can you provide us the excel file so that we can download ? Or you can upload somewhere else for us ? Thanks for sharing giveme5 ! Thank you !

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QUOTE(yeewensmc @ Aug 27 2010, 03:57 PM)
Thanks mate ! I'm using the Procare advance with the fully syn oil... from the pricing you provide, do they flush my ATF oil ? Some of my mates done @ 20k ... some @ 40k .. wa like tat very inconsistent wo...  Can you provide us the excel file so that we can download ? Or you can upload somewhere else for us ? Thanks for sharing giveme5 ! Thank you !
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No prob mate. Will upload the excel when I get back frm work 2nite. Pricing wise differs frm one SC to the other. The excel is just to help me know what to expect in terms of pricing and items serviced. Have to really thanked the PESC people for providing me this excel sheet anyway. notworthy.gif

NOTE: The full flush have to request the SC to do, if not, they will not.
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QUOTE(Wuakaka @ Aug 27 2010, 02:58 PM)
i tink i have the same problem too,i tot is my bullet patah ad,== u got any idea how to solve tis??wat is the screw size?which sc u went?
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size unknown i cant take it out tried dy

its using allen key to tighten it

sc - melaka eon perringit - damn slow service
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QUOTE(DaBestOne @ Aug 26 2010, 09:09 AM)
everything rm300? or gotta plus normal service and clean throttle body sumore? how come so expensive 1? service in proton's service center isit?

Btw, I heard comments from my friends that servicing your car at dealer's service center such as perodua, proton, honda, toyota... is very expensive and it's better to just service in those normal bengkel since the service they provide is similiar, but much cheaper. Is that true? Is servicing the car at normal bengkel fine to go with?
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Service in SC center they warranty you, service outside bear yourself.

QUOTE(klk89 @ Aug 26 2010, 09:16 PM)
Just out of curiosity, does manual Saga owners feel a significant power loss when the air-con compressor kicks in even if you floor the accelerator?
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This is normal for lot car, air compressor kick in need a lot of volt so will slow down a bit.
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QUOTE(fesick @ Aug 27 2010, 03:48 PM)
guys, pls give some idea..
my rear plate number, i want it just plain black plate with number..
want get rid those best blablablabla of the year  shakehead.gif ..
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use thinner to wipe the silver lining, it will come off. Me and another member did it and the black trim looks so much better.
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use thinner to wipe the silver lining, it will come off. Me and another member did it and the black trim looks so much better.
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let me try that tomorrow, tq
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HI BLMers,

Here's the link to the cost of servicing your BLM, Persona or Exora.

You can download from either one of them.
1. http://hotfile.com/dl/65033114/0e41d36/Pro...ricing.xls.html
or
2. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WUYSQQPZ
or
3. http://rapidshare.com/files/415424515/Prot...ricing.xls.html

Probably xshiro could put it in the 1st page hmm.gif


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QUOTE(jaya_pc87 @ Aug 27 2010, 04:52 PM)
size unknown i cant take it out tried dy

its using allen key to tighten it

sc - melaka eon perringit - damn slow service
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oh man,size unknown,zzzz...
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just noticed that my BLM got this 'Cin Cin Cin' sound after start the engine... its the sound that normal cars would have.. but mine was only near 2 years old.. and had sent to 20k service just last 2 weeks...

I is sad..
what could possibly causes this sound?
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i keep calling the SafeTint shop number today, but no 1 pick up...bankrupt already? i want to claim warranty for my lousy tint
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i keep calling the SafeTint shop number today, but no 1 pick up...bankrupt already? i want to claim warranty for my lousy tint
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brother, they don't open on saturday. I just called them on wednesday (or thursday? cant remember) and they're still open for business.
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use thinner to wipe the silver lining, it will come off. Me and another member did it and the black trim looks so much better.
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bro, thank you for this.. i did it this morning.. but my plate bit dirty laugh.gif
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QUOTE(giveme5 @ Aug 28 2010, 12:10 AM)
HI BLMers,

Here's the link to the cost of servicing your BLM, Persona or Exora.

You can download from either one of them.
1. http://hotfile.com/dl/65033114/0e41d36/Pro...ricing.xls.html
or
2. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WUYSQQPZ
or
3. http://rapidshare.com/files/415424515/Prot...ricing.xls.html

Probably xshiro could put it in the 1st page  hmm.gif
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Thanks bro, i got the file edi !!!
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QUOTE(four_add @ Aug 28 2010, 11:47 AM)
just noticed that my BLM got this 'Cin Cin Cin' sound after start the engine... its the sound that normal cars would have.. but mine was only near 2 years old.. and had sent to 20k service just last 2 weeks...

I is sad..
what could possibly causes this sound?
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I also have similar sound - I think coming from the belts area. I just sent for 35k service at PE authorised SC on Saturday and I have no such problem before that. On Sunday only I noticed this problem. I just change the engine oil and asked them to repair the 'loose gear stick problem' - cost me RM8 for the broken spring. Not sure whether I have the time to back the car to SC to check on the rattling problem.
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wierd.. where's the sound came from ?

maybe u need to try another SC

QUOTE(rainbowcyan @ Aug 26 2010, 10:44 PM)
Dear all BLM members, my car has been one of the first batch of BLM which came out in March 2008. My car has been covered for 29000 km till now and I've been to SC for service every 10k. Problem is, starting from 9000km, there's been this kind of rattling metal sound appearing from time to time (Sometimes got sometimes it doesnt appear).

Please listen to the sound in the Youtube below from the 48th second till 1 min 11 second...


Rattling Sound - Youtube

The sound is extremely irritating. And I've sent it to SC for checking twice d. And in both occasion, the car just didnt produce the sound when the mechanics drive the car for a round!!! Only after when i drive the sound appear again! The first time I thought it was IAFM fault, so the SC was kind to replace the IAFM in my 10000 km service. Then the noise continues to appear. The car was sent 2nd time for checking and the mechanics just tell me that the exhaust was loose and they just tight back the exhaust pipe. The problem until now still exist and I've been tired of going to SC cuz it's been so wasting my time. Can any 1 tell me what's wrong with my car?
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QUOTE(CyberKewl @ Aug 28 2010, 03:09 PM)
brother, they don't open on saturday. I just called them on wednesday (or thursday? cant remember) and they're still open for business.
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Why not you go to their shop and make an appointment with them. Because their parking bay was at the back of their shop and only can accommodate one vehicle. >.<
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for manual users, did the RPM meter goes higher when you changing the gear?
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QUOTE(iena_jr @ Aug 30 2010, 11:55 PM)
for manual users, did the RPM meter goes higher when you changing the gear?
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Its caused by the drive by wire lag. Perfectly normal smile.gif
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i am interested in getting saga blm used unit,i found many ppl selling saga blm 2008,would like to ask whether there is any problem for this car?and is there anything that i should check before getting a used blm?

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Its caused by the drive by wire lag. Perfectly normal smile.gif
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fuhh.. i taught it's abnormal.. huhuh
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QUOTE(SiuYi @ Aug 31 2010, 02:56 PM)
selamat hari merdeka peeps~
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Hi bro and to all good people out there, i need your help..
yesterday i went to Tesco got this 2 guys came to me and promote their security system.. but its damn expensive .. RM650++
they also got show me how easy they can unlock and start up my car.. so im bit worry now.. sad.gif
so i decide to change my alarm system.. can you guys pls suggest me an additional security system for my saga?

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QUOTE(fesick @ Aug 31 2010, 04:13 PM)
Hi bro and to all good people out there, i need your help..
yesterday i went to Tesco got this 2 guys came to me and promote their security system.. but its damn expensive .. RM650++
they also got show me how easy they can unlock and start up my car.. so im bit worry now..  sad.gif
so i decide to change my alarm system.. can you guys pls suggest me an additional security system for my saga?
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what kinda security system you are talking about? Is it some device that you installed in your car, and you must have another device such as magnet card etc in hand then only you can start up the car?
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Tell u guys what, no matter what kind of security also no use, if the thief want to steal ur car, any car also can kena steal..just deter them a bit only.
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QUOTE(CyberKewl @ Aug 31 2010, 04:52 PM)
Tell u guys what, no matter what kind of security also no use, if the thief want to steal ur car, any car also can kena steal..just deter them a bit only.
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very true
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maybe at least i can change the alarm siren? both horn and alarm sound is the same.. aduiyy

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QUOTE(fesick @ Aug 31 2010, 06:53 PM)
maybe at least i can change the alarm siren? both horn and alarm sound is the same.. aduiyy
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why need to bother? Horn is louder what. biggrin.gif
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sorry that i need to ask this noob question, saga blm headlight is using H* bulb?
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QUOTE(CyberKewl @ Aug 31 2010, 04:52 PM)
Tell u guys what, no matter what kind of security also no use, if the thief want to steal ur car, any car also can kena steal..just deter them a bit only.
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True, Thieves are well prepared and well equipped to steal cars nowadays. Whatever "system" we have. they are well aware about them and definitely up to it doh.gif
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QUOTE(stephen7177 @ Sep 1 2010, 01:06 AM)
sorry that i need to ask this noob question, saga blm headlight is using H* bulb?
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H4 bulb
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Anyone has done engine flush during service?
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QUOTE(fbtan @ Sep 1 2010, 04:07 PM)
Anyone has done engine flush during service?
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Done a couple of times, but not everytime.

I only ask them to do it if I switch from Mineral oil to Syn or Full-Syn.

The difference is there, quieter and smoother engine, even if I do the Engine flush during oil change for the same type of it, Syn to Syn.
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QUOTE(fbtan @ Sep 1 2010, 04:07 PM)
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Sorry noob question, what's engine flush? blush.gif
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I do not believe engine flushes are something you should encourage. Normally engine flushes are a last resort. Not something you do for fun. E.g. When you have a sludged engine. This is especially true for older vehicles.

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local-be...shservices.html
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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Sep 1 2010, 10:22 PM)
I do not believe engine flushes are something you should encourage. Normally engine flushes are a last resort. Not something you do for fun. E.g. When you have a sludged engine. This is especially true for older vehicles.

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local-be...shservices.html
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I think the engine flush is not the type that u pointed out. The engine flush here is actually pour some 'flushing oil' before oil change and let the engine run for 15-20 minutes, then drain the old oil and fill with new oil.

However the link you provided is actually flushing engine using pump and horse, which enforce the solvent into the engine and 'flush' it, i think these 2 are different things. hmm.gif

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Hey guys! Just booked my new Saga M-line yesterday, metallic black.hehehe. Will probably be getting it next week or 2 weeks from now, latest. Can't wait eventhough paying for it is gonna make my purse CRY. lol. anyway, thanks again for everyone who gave their feedbacks and advice! Hope i wont face any problems with my unit lol.
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QUOTE(anneysays @ Sep 1 2010, 11:21 PM)
Hey guys! Just booked my new Saga M-line yesterday, metallic black.hehehe. Will probably be getting it next week or 2 weeks from now, latest. Can't wait eventhough paying for it is gonna make my purse CRY. lol. anyway, thanks again for everyone who gave their feedbacks and advice! Hope i wont face any problems with my unit lol.
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good luck bro smile.gif


i just got mine back from SC today

rear disc brake jamming randomly
making weird noises haha

then the air cond vent start making weird hissing noise
they say they replace the whole pipe wonder what happen
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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Sep 1 2010, 10:56 PM)
I think the engine flush is not the type that u pointed out. The engine flush here is actually pour some 'flushing oil' before oil change and let the engine run for 15-20 minutes, then drain the old oil and fill with new oil.

However the link you provided is actually flushing engine using pump and horse, which enforce the solvent into the engine and 'flush' it, i think these 2 are different things. hmm.gif
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Nope. The article is referring to

QUOTE(that NBC article)
An engine flush is where they pour a chemical solvent into your engine, supposedly to flush out old sludge.


That pumping thing they mentioned is some of the other flushes that do damage besides an engine flush. I think it was the transmission flushing machine.


Added on September 2, 2010, 12:30 amin addition, here's a quote from part 2 of that article

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The truth is Honda, Nissan, GM and Ford all recommend against doing engine flushes.
"Engine flushes could potentially damage an engine," says Dave Johnson, a top Ford engineer.


http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local-be...hservices2.html

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Hi there guys, im thinking of upgrading my BLM's sound system, heard that the b-line even though no front speakers, the wiring is there, is that true ?
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Hi guys,

i juz get my new proton saga blm 3 mths ago.unfortunately my 'new baby' had a bit scratches as i accidentally bang with a motor.

i would like to know if i take my baby for 10k service and i ask them to spray it back and 'ketuk' a bit will they charge me for it?

any can advice?

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QUOTE(jaya_pc87 @ Sep 1 2010, 11:33 PM)
good luck bro smile.gif
i just got mine back from SC today

rear disc brake jamming randomly
making weird noises haha

then the air cond vent start making weird hissing noise
they say they replace the whole pipe wonder what happen
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Huh? You mean it's a new car? Just get then straight away got problem already? I have a fren whose Saga has a lot of problems too, just bought it then power window got problem after 1 week.... doh.gif
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QUOTE(nabelon @ Sep 2 2010, 12:31 AM)
Hi there guys, im thinking of upgrading my BLM's sound system, heard that the b-line even though no front speakers, the wiring is there, is that true ?
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False. Last time i also misled by SC ppl, no 'front speaker wiring ready' for B-line. tongue.gif
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ya true, but again, prevention is better than cure. If ur blm got lock thaan why not they steal any other blm around?

But of course i am not talking bout those 20 to 30 bucks baseball bat haha

p.s can check some of my thread
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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Sep 1 2010, 10:22 PM)
I do not believe engine flushes are something you should encourage. Normally engine flushes are a last resort. Not something you do for fun. E.g. When you have a sludged engine. This is especially true for older vehicles.

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local-be...shservices.html
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Same here, but some wakil service always include engine flush during the service, always has to ask them to exclude it. Flushing only recommended if you use bad mineral oil and overshoot the service mileage then the oil may be overused/burnt and sludge started to deposit in the engine. Today's semi-syn and full-syn oil already has detergent in the oil to clean the engine by itself.
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hi, anyone know how much the long rubber seal under the window price ?
mine all 4 looks cacat, got rubber like kopek out or kena acid like that...

near roof one still looks nice...

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try wax it first.

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i tot that's normal.its the spring sound.
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post Sep 2 2010, 06:06 PM

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hi everyone....just got my Saga 1.3 Auto M-Line today biggrin.gif
so far so good, everyhting is working fine...hopefully won't have any problem thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(sa10 @ Sep 2 2010, 06:25 PM)
u will have door panels vibration noise soon cool2.gif  cool2.gif  cool2.gif
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IT's a HIT OR MISS thing dude...
I've got my car for a year plus already, still no vibration noise... So, how SOON is your "SOON" referring too?

Come on guys, some of you are really sceptical, sarcastic and negative... I feel sorry for those of you who are owning a BLM and having to say bad things about it everyday to everyone... COME ON... WAKE UP DUDE....
If you dislike it, get rid of it,
If you dislike it but you can't get rid of it, do something about it
If you dislike it but you can't get rid of it, and you can't do anything about it, SHUT THE EFFING MOUTH UP...

If I were you, I'll go do something about it... stuck some sponge inside, or glue or wax or whatever I can get hold off and Instead of shutting my own mouth, i shut that noisy rattling vibration SOB up...
And you'll not hear that again for as long as the solution can last. How good is that?


Go and THINK about it


Cheers and peace on you...

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chill out bro, we're just stating the facts so that others don't get too happy just yet, actually despite the issues I still love this car, somehow more than when I owned a myvi for 4 years smile.gif
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QUOTE(sa10 @ Sep 2 2010, 06:25 PM)
u will have door panels vibration noise soon cool2.gif  cool2.gif  cool2.gif
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well it's a Proton mah...no high expectation from me laugh.gif

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hey guys, anyone knows how much a halfcut condition auto gearbox would cost? asking on behalf of someone who wanted to replace his manual gearbox with an auto one. :/
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ur fren sure is a fun guy. ask him to sell his manual, and get an auto instead of changing the trans.

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peace in u too. haha.. just bear with it. this is a norm in msia ppl's mind. complain SC complain gomen, but never try to solve it themselves. im happy with this cheap ride, at least i save alot up for the mods.

ps: get a foreign car if proton not so good. honda good wat, toyota good wat.LOL.no offense.im a honda fan as well.
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QUOTE(SiuYi @ Sep 2 2010, 10:58 PM)
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peace in u too. haha.. just bear with it. this is a norm in msia ppl's mind. complain SC complain gomen, but never try to solve it themselves. im happy with this cheap ride, at least i save alot up for the mods.

ps: get a foreign car if proton not so good. honda good wat, toyota good wat.LOL.no offense.im a honda fan as well.
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Exactly! Now's some body's talking! It is a very cheap and comfortable ride for it's price...
Like I said, if you can't own those foreign cars, just cherish what you have now... enough said!

P/S: I'm a Honda fan too tongue.gif



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hello!

I wanted to install reverse camera and maybe new stereo player (with USB)... but I wonder does it void the warranty? especially the 5 years warranty... that covers only the engine rite?? icon_question.gif

Thanks in advance!
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QUOTE(CyberKewl @ Sep 2 2010, 08:40 PM)
chill out bro, we're just stating the facts so that others don't get too happy just yet, actually despite the issues I still love this car, somehow more than when I owned a myvi for 4 years smile.gif
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hmmmm, please dun mind if I ask. What makes you wanna switch to Saga from Myvi? Myvi is good what .... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(SiuYi @ Sep 2 2010, 10:58 PM)
teikwing
ur fren sure is a fun guy. ask him to sell his manual, and get an auto instead of changing the trans.

Newgen
peace in u too. haha.. just bear with it. this is a norm in msia ppl's mind. complain SC complain gomen, but never try to solve it themselves. im happy with this cheap ride, at least i save alot up for the mods.

ps: get a foreign car if proton not so good. honda good wat, toyota good wat.LOL.no offense.im a honda fan as well.
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think his girl can't drive manual hance the change. anyway, approx how much would it cost?
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hi guys. i drive a saga blm m-line late 2008 and the mileage is around 32000km.

my clutch started acting up 2 days ago. when i depress the clutch, i felt a quite strong vibration on the pedal. gear change however is more or less the same and there is no noticeable loss of power.

went to the proton edar SC and after a brief inspection (the SC personnel drove the car a bit). the SC guy told me that the clutch is showing early signs of failure. in order to avert further problems down the road i was advised to change the whole clutch (housing, bearing, plate). the total cost quoted is close to RM900.

i wonder if i can claim warranty on the clutch? i know that under the warranty agreement, the clutch is a wear and tear part and is not covered but come on, clutch failure this early? the clutch has gotta be defective in the first place for it to wear out at such early mileage! vmad.gif i do regular maintenance (periodic services at the recommended intervals all done at the same SC). i'm no speed demon (apart from the occasional 120-130km/h balik kampung drives), i don't do high revs unnecessarily and i always depress the clutch fully before changing gears, no abrupt release (fast, race-style gear change is a no-no).

so what say you sifus?
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QUOTE(teikwing @ Sep 3 2010, 07:47 AM)
think his girl can't drive manual hance the change. anyway, approx how much would it cost?
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you just simply yell around at gen2 club,and they willing to swap auto with u,they topup for u samo to get ur manual gb,cheers tongue.gif


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QUOTE(bestgile81 @ Sep 3 2010, 11:58 AM)
hi guys. i drive a saga blm m-line late 2008 and the mileage is around 32000km.

my clutch started acting up 2 days ago. when i depress the clutch, i felt a quite strong vibration on the pedal. gear change however is more or less the same and there is no noticeable loss of power.

went to the proton edar SC and after a brief inspection (the SC personnel drove the car a bit). the SC guy told me that the clutch is showing early signs of failure. in order to avert further problems down the road i was advised to change the whole clutch (housing, bearing, plate). the total cost quoted is close to RM900.

i wonder if i can claim warranty on the clutch? i know that under the warranty agreement, the clutch is a wear and tear part and is not covered but come on, clutch failure this early? the clutch has gotta be defective in the first place for it to wear out at such early mileage!  vmad.gif  i do regular maintenance (periodic services at the recommended intervals all done at the same SC). i'm no speed demon (apart from the occasional 120-130km/h balik kampung drives), i don't do high revs unnecessarily and i always depress the clutch fully before changing gears, no abrupt release (fast, race-style gear change is a no-no).

so what say you sifus?
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i suggest u to go to section 13 pesb juz right behind dutch lady,and the last resort is coe glenmarie...coe muz book b4 u go...so if both also say no..then no choice,change to nissan clutch,and you're rdy to go with a totally new experience,vroom vroom.... thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(Wuakaka @ Sep 3 2010, 12:40 PM)
you just simply yell around at gen2 club,and they willing to swap auto with u,they topup for u samo to get ur manual gb,cheers tongue.gif


Added on September 3, 2010, 12:41 pm

i suggest u to go to section 13 pesb juz right behind dutch lady,and the last resort is coe glenmarie...coe muz book b4 u go...so if both also say no..then no choice,change to nissan clutch,and you're rdy to go with a totally new experience,vroom vroom.... thumbup.gif
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hmm i iz interested. nvm that my warranty will be voided, i should go for a sentra clutch rite?

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5 years for engine? its 3 years for engine and wiring as well. reverse cam got ntg to do with wirings as they feed on bluetooth.

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rm5k at least?

bestgile81
by right, its more than 1 years old ride from ur side, and u canot just say u did not do anything, and it went wrong. SC will never accept anything, unless ur ride goes crazy in 1 month time once u get ur ride from the SA, then that's a good reason coz its fresh from oven and its faulty. u can always try to ask around various SC and see if they can help u out by claiming the FOC warranty or not.if they dun, at least pay them for labour and get free parts from Proton. regarding nissan clutch, as u mentioned: clutch is tear and wear, so what shud they void u since u dun even get to claim it with oem clutch,right?
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msy i ask u.. how to determine the saga blm iafm is defect??
is the tak .. tak... sound??

if after claim warranty still have tak.. tak... sound.., consider normal??
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My car starting to have the noisy "lorry" sound. I guess my IAFM starting to faulty. How long will it take to replace the IAFM? I heard its a very long process of replacing it because its connected to engine bay and some valves. Was it normal for it to be faulty around 1 year plus of usage? Faulty IAFM is like the most common problem happened in a Saga. sad.gif
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QUOTE(SiuYi @ Sep 3 2010, 02:27 PM)
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5 years for engine? its 3 years for engine and wiring as well. reverse cam got ntg to do with wirings as they feed on bluetooth.
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If i'm not mistaken, 1 year for mechanical parts such as window motor, starter, etc, 3 years for electrical and wiring, and 5 years only for engine and gearbox
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QUOTE(klk89 @ Sep 4 2010, 12:58 PM)
My car starting to have the noisy "lorry" sound. I guess my IAFM starting to faulty. How long will it take to replace the IAFM? I heard its a very long process of replacing it because its connected to engine bay and some valves. Was it normal for it to be faulty around 1 year plus of usage? Faulty IAFM is like the most common problem happened in a Saga.  sad.gif
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How long have you been driving your car bro?
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QUOTE(klk89 @ Sep 4 2010, 12:58 PM)
My car starting to have the noisy "lorry" sound. I guess my IAFM starting to faulty. How long will it take to replace the IAFM? I heard its a very long process of replacing it because its connected to engine bay and some valves. Was it normal for it to be faulty around 1 year plus of usage? Faulty IAFM is like the most common problem happened in a Saga.  sad.gif
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actually ar it can be done within 1-2 hours only...if the spare part is ready stock..they can install it for ur immediately...leave ur car in the morning..then evening can take ..if there is a long queue

there is a new batch of IAFM


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QUOTE(Vincent_A8fm @ Sep 3 2010, 11:25 PM)
siuyi,

msy i ask u.. how to determine the saga blm iafm is defect??
is the tak .. tak... sound??

if after claim warranty still have tak.. tak... sound.., consider normal??
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there is a lot of similar tak tak sound which is normal...but there is one tak tak sound...more like plastic sound with somekind of a tone...

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hi guys...long time not updated my news here biggrin.gif i am the first bacth saga owner and my saga already clock almost 34k km..in these 2 and half year the iafm replace only once... the ratling sound actually come from the key-hole part...you ask the sc to tighten it. brows.gif my car also have the ratling sound now aftef 1 year plus since the sc fixed it for me in middle of 2008....my tyrebotak already...i need advice which tyre best for the standard stock rim.. notworthy.gif urgent reply please nod.gif


Added on September 4, 2010, 6:30 pmand kindly tell me how much those tyre will cost me... icon_question.gif

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What is the on the road price of the PROTON SAGA 1.3AT (S) B-LINE????
The price stated at Starter thread is On The Road Price?
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QUOTE(DaBestOne @ Sep 4 2010, 04:11 PM)
How long have you been driving your car bro?
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Got my car around March 2009. 1 and 1/2 years lo.


Added on September 4, 2010, 9:56 pm
QUOTE(xshiro @ Sep 4 2010, 05:12 PM)
actually ar it can be done within 1-2 hours only...if the spare part is ready stock..they can install it for ur immediately...leave ur car in the morning..then evening can take ..if there is a long queue

there is a new batch of IAFM


Added on September 4, 2010, 5:15 pm

there is a lot of similar tak tak sound which is normal...but there is one tak tak sound...more like plastic sound with somekind of a tone...
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I hope the newer batch of IAFM could last longer compared to the older batch. Even inside the cabin can hear the tak tak sound. Very annoying. Will go make an appointment with my SC one day. =(

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QUOTE(klk89 @ Sep 4 2010, 09:54 PM)
Got my car around March 2009. 1 and 1/2 years lo.


Added on September 4, 2010, 9:56 pm
I hope the newer batch of IAFM could last longer compared to the older batch. Even inside the cabin can hear the tak tak sound. Very annoying. Will go make an appointment with my SC one day. =(
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can be heard from inside cabin.. confirm iafm...


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Very surprise that my car IAFM can 'self recover' tongue.gif On June i drove back JB-Ipoh, total 1100KM. The morning after i started my car can heard the 'tak tak' IAFM noise, i thought it might kong adi, but only make noise during cold start, after few KM, no more this kind of sound. Recently even cold start also won't have adi, kinda magic... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(xshiro @ Sep 4 2010, 10:09 PM)
can be heard from inside cabin.. confirm iafm...
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Many members in this forum complaining about tak tak tak sound that is related to IAFM faulty. Never thought my car will get this problem. I am wrong. Because I thought my IAFM was the newer batch. How to differentiate an old one and the newer batch? My IAFM sticker was yellow coloured.


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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Sep 4 2010, 10:24 PM)
Very surprise that my car IAFM can 'self recover'  tongue.gif On June i drove back JB-Ipoh, total 1100KM. The morning after i started my car can heard the 'tak tak' IAFM noise, i thought it might kong adi, but only make noise during cold start, after few KM, no more this kind of sound. Recently even cold start also won't have adi, kinda magic... laugh.gif
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Wow...I wished that my IAFM could self-recover by itself. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(klk89 @ Sep 4 2010, 10:26 PM)
Many members in this forum complaining about tak tak tak sound that is related to IAFM faulty. Never thought my car will get this problem. I am wrong. Because I thought my IAFM was the newer batch. How to differentiate an old one and the newer batch? My IAFM sticker was yellow coloured.


Added on September 4, 2010, 10:27 pm

Wow...I wished that my IAFM could self-recover by itself. biggrin.gif
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Could be the moving part that make the noise in my IAFM stuck and jam adi, thats why silent. laugh.gif tongue.gif

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QUOTE(bestgile81 @ Sep 3 2010, 12:58 PM)
hi guys. i drive a saga blm m-line late 2008 and the mileage is around 32000km.

my clutch started acting up 2 days ago. when i depress the clutch, i felt a quite strong vibration on the pedal. gear change however is more or less the same and there is no noticeable loss of power.

went to the proton edar SC and after a brief inspection (the SC personnel drove the car a bit). the SC guy told me that the clutch is showing early signs of failure. in order to avert further problems down the road i was advised to change the whole clutch (housing, bearing, plate). the total cost quoted is close to RM900.

i wonder if i can claim warranty on the clutch? i know that under the warranty agreement, the clutch is a wear and tear part and is not covered but come on, clutch failure this early? the clutch has gotta be defective in the first place for it to wear out at such early mileage!  vmad.gif  i do regular maintenance (periodic services at the recommended intervals all done at the same SC). i'm no speed demon (apart from the occasional 120-130km/h balik kampung drives), i don't do high revs unnecessarily and i always depress the clutch fully before changing gears, no abrupt release (fast, race-style gear change is a no-no).

so what say you sifus?
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then it's a defect item which wears out so fast~
even my stock kancil now 9yrs @ 150k km still strong~ flex.gif
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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Sep 4 2010, 02:55 PM)
If i'm not mistaken, 1 year for mechanical parts such as window motor, starter, etc, 3 years for electrical and wiring, and 5 years only for engine and gearbox
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means have to wait 3 years ke?? i really wanted to change the stereo....
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Guys had been driving my car for 2 years and now its clock at 52k.

1) Can i know how do i check whether my IAFM is still working?
2) I had brought my car out for service instead of proton, changed to 10-40w oil and seems like the car is smoother, that's all
3) regarding nissan clutch, how much would it cost changing them?
4) It seems like for manual transmission the gear vibrates quite alot, is there anyway to fix it?

*thanks for the key hole vibration info, i will get it fix asap.
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Anybody changed their tyres already? Mine thread left 20-30% only after serving for 60k km. Thinking of changing to Falken ZE-912 or Yoko A drive any suggestion which tyre better?

Did you guys change the camber screw to those adjustable one and adjusted the camber? Noticed that my front tyre actually "makan one side (inner side)" only. The tyre shop ppl told me that every blm has this problem and the only solution is to use an adjustable camber screw to adjust the camber.
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Anybody changed their tyres already? Mine thread left 20-30% only after serving for 60k km. Thinking of changing to Falken ZE-912 or Yoko A drive any suggestion which tyre better?

Did you guys change the camber screw to those adjustable one and adjusted the camber? Noticed that my front tyre actually "makan one side (inner side)" only. The tyre shop ppl told me that every blm has this problem and the only solution is to use an adjustable camber screw to adjust the camber.
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I don think its particular for BLM. those tyre people will say any car problematic so that u change the chamber screw. Its a whooping 50-60 ringgit for a 10 ringgit screw. easy money... whistling.gif
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wow...just found this Saga BLM thread. Not bad. thumbup.gif
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the gear panel (on the gearbox that have P,R,N,D) doesn't have light kah?
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QUOTE(kapalterbang_737 @ Sep 5 2010, 09:37 PM)
the gear panel (on the gearbox that have P,R,N,D) doesn't have light kah?
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yup....doesn't have light
really hard to see during nite sad.gif
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QUOTE(babylck @ Sep 5 2010, 04:02 PM)
Anybody changed their tyres already? Mine thread left 20-30% only after serving for 60k km. Thinking of changing to Falken ZE-912 or Yoko A drive any suggestion which tyre better?

Did you guys change the camber screw to those adjustable one and adjusted the camber? Noticed that my front tyre actually "makan one side (inner side)" only. The tyre shop ppl told me that every blm has this problem and the only solution is to use an adjustable camber screw to adjust the camber.
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i just changed my tyres last week... i got rm165 per piece at hin leong klang.... Bridgestone turanza ar10... great tyre.. good performance on wet condition.
they also told me that my chamber got problem... but i said dont want to change.... coz my tire makan ok..
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QUOTE(x_kink @ Sep 5 2010, 09:45 PM)
yup....doesn't have light
really hard to see during nite  sad.gif
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Well you do realise the meter cluster has the gear indicator right? Personally, I had no problems switching from a car with lights at the gear panel -> gear indicator on the meter cluster. I find it easier as well.
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for Saga Blm Manual tranmission user..

anyone of the car owner here have change their gear handle cloth??

photo i borrow online lo.. not my photo..
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pls recommend me..
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QUOTE(Vincent_A8fm @ Sep 6 2010, 02:01 AM)
for Saga Blm Manual tranmission user..

anyone of the car owner here have change their gear handle cloth??

photo i borrow online lo.. not my photo..
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pls recommend me..
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Ugly... tongue.gif


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QUOTE(kaizou @ Sep 5 2010, 04:38 PM)
I don think its particular for BLM. those tyre people will say any car problematic so that u change the chamber screw. Its a whooping 50-60 ringgit for a 10 ringgit screw. easy money...  whistling.gif
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Add or not is up to user judgement. For me i won't sacrifice my tyre becos of 'whooping 50-60 ringgit for a 10 ringgit screw' (mine is RM25/piece). Of course add it won't gurantee tyre not makan one side, but at least everytime you do alignment, they can adjust back to normal angle, at least it will last for some while, better than none, which start makan your tire from fresh till to end if you are not aware.

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hi, my car will go for 15000km service.
i just realize that service interval booklet is on 1000km,5000km,10000km and after that is 10 000km incremental basis; 20 000km, 30 000km..

since there is no mention inside the booklet for 15 000km/25 000km/35 000km etc. service, is it possible to service it outside PSC?

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my dad changed by juz covering another thin layer around the oem, coz the oem is tearing apart from below..

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the cloth ugly meh?
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QUOTE(isone @ Sep 6 2010, 11:01 AM)
hi, my car will go for 15000km service.
i just realize that service interval booklet is on 1000km,5000km,10000km and after that is 10 000km incremental basis; 20 000km, 30 000km..

since there is no mention inside the booklet for 15 000km/25 000km/35 000km etc. service, is it possible to service it outside PSC?
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But then again, if the Service Center ppl don't realise it, and you don't mention it ... whistling.gif laugh.gif

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QUOTE(isone @ Sep 6 2010, 11:01 AM)
hi, my car will go for 15000km service.
i just realize that service interval booklet is on 1000km,5000km,10000km and after that is 10 000km incremental basis; 20 000km, 30 000km..

since there is no mention inside the booklet for 15 000km/25 000km/35 000km etc. service, is it possible to service it outside PSC?
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When u go to service center, they will printout a new set of service period for 15000 km.
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QUOTE(Sonic boomer @ Sep 6 2010, 02:36 PM)
When u go to service center, they will printout a new set of service period for 15000 km.
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In addition to this, if you go back a few pages, I believe someone posted a link to an excel spreadsheet from Proton SC listing the service schedules and estimated costs for each service with a service interval of 5k. I believe that will be very useful.
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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Sep 6 2010, 02:39 PM)
In addition to this, if you go back a few pages, I believe someone posted a link to an excel spreadsheet from Proton SC listing the service schedules and estimated costs for each service with a service interval of 5k. I believe that will be very useful.
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yup, i saw it last time but couldn't remember in version 10/9 in this forum hmm.gif now looking for it.
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guy from blm team:)
need ur help, coz my sister is consedering saga blm and viva for her 1st car.
the only thing she want to know is the fuel consumption.
my fwen tol me dat, for viva : rm50 = plus minus 450km

so how bout saga blm??
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listen to me: viva save fuel, but ar..no power. so when driving uphill, u tend to step more, so in the end also same like other rides. there's no significant saving in fuel. my sis using viva, im using BLM. if wanna go for safety precaution, get a saga BLM. i drove my sis's viva, it's like driving a container on the road, even a motorcycle can kill me. if u gonna seriously talk about FC, then viva will be the priority.
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QUOTE(SiuYi @ Sep 6 2010, 09:06 PM)
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listen to me: viva save fuel, but ar..no power. so when driving uphill, u tend to step more, so in the end also same like other rides. there's no significant saving in fuel. my sis using viva, im using BLM. if wanna go for safety precaution, get a saga BLM. i drove my sis's viva, it's like driving a container on the road, even a motorcycle can kill me. if u gonna seriously talk about FC, then viva will be the priority.
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dear siuYi, im asking dis because her salary is just rm2000/mth, so, let say if the money she can save by using viva is SIGNIFICANTLY high compared to saga, maybe she will go for viva, but then if the diff is small, so no point she choose viva. of corse saga is much2 more better car:)

so, i just wanna know roughly the FC for BLM icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(kobEj0rdan~ @ Sep 6 2010, 09:11 PM)
dear siuYi, im asking dis because her salary is just rm2000/mth, so, let say if the money she can save by using viva is SIGNIFICANTLY high compared to saga, maybe she will go for viva, but then if the diff is small, so no point she choose viva. of corse saga is much2 more better car:)

so, i just wanna know roughly the FC for BLM icon_rolleyes.gif
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auto transmission?

ron95 rm50 -
best is 300km...usually with my style of driving i get 250-280km (i dont drive slow in town tongue.gif )... city drive

highway driving can get 320-340 km..

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auto transmission?

ron95 rm50 -
best is 300km...usually with my style of driving i get 250-280km average... city drive

highway driving can get 320-340 km..
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manual bro:) thanx for the info btw rclxms.gif
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manual, erm should be around that...auto usually consume more...
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manual bro:) thanx for the info btw rclxms.gif
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My manual BLM can get 6-6.3L/100KM in highway cruising @ =<110km/h, town never more than 7.5L/100km, so based on the fuel price now, u calculate it. For me, reasonable FC.

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if its manual, then saga might do the job then. why not go for 2nd hand rides?
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if its manual, then saga might do the job then. why not go for 2nd hand rides?
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bc0z shes lo0king to use the car for up to 9-10 years before she get a new one:)
so i think better to go for the new one is it?? lower risk to failure nod.gif
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bc0z shes lo0king to use the car for up to 9-10 years before she get a new one:)
so i think better to go for the new one is it?? lower risk to failure nod.gif
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I want to increase the stability of my car -

any suggested absorber n spring brands around 500-600 ? i only know proride atm, forumer selling it including installation for rm600.
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QUOTE(nabelon @ Sep 8 2010, 02:28 AM)
I want to increase the stability of my car -

any suggested absorber n spring brands around 500-600 ? i only know proride atm, forumer selling it including installation for rm600.
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better stability means you will lose comfort a little or more...depends on the suspension type...

i heard sapura proride (standard replacement) absorber can be matched with stock spring and it provides better stability than standard absorber while maintaining the comfort..

currently im using proride sport spring and greber performance absorber ...stiff and harsh ride..but stable when cornnering

200 - spring
450 - absorber

installation rm50, alignment and camber adjust rm38

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So question to ask pro guys in blm club,

I am thinking about buying a new Proton Saga BLM 1.3(B-Line)

But I am a little bit afraid as my friends driving Proton Saga (bought in 2008). now already have a lots of problems for his accessories, and also a veri high FC for him, RM60++ for 2XXkm(auto) oni.

Is that Saga BLM Manual will have lesser problem comparing with Auto?

Some one told me that Proton Saga BLM selling after 2008, 2009 onwards will have lesser problem, is that true?

As I am thinking of buying a car for driving for 10 years time, so any comments from all members here?

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QUOTE(lowmiao @ Sep 8 2010, 08:51 AM)
So question to ask pro guys in blm club,

I am thinking about buying a new Proton Saga BLM 1.3(B-Line)

But I am a little bit afraid as my friends driving Proton Saga (bought in 2008). now already have a lots of problems for his accessories, and also a veri high FC for him, RM60++ for 2XXkm(auto) oni.

Is that Saga BLM Manual will have lesser problem comparing with Auto?

Some one told me that Proton Saga BLM selling after 2008, 2009 onwards will have lesser problem, is that true?

As I am thinking of buying a car for driving for 10 years time, so any comments from all members here?

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i'm just bought blm 1 month ago...not many major problem...just the radio and the alarm...but it has already solved at SC...
so far...FC is about rm60 for 3xxkm...
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then wats the final decision? viva or blm?

nabelon
u prefer lowered spring or standard? im selling sapura prorides as well. but i dun provide installations.LOL. lowered gives more stability while turning but meantime proride do not have sport abs for BLM yet.

xshiro
bro, rm200 spring price was a promo price. the price hike already due to labour and petrol cost throughout msia.LOL.

lowmiao
yes. they improved. manual should be less hassle than auto regarding their system.

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wat's with the radio and alarm?
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QUOTE(SiuYi @ Sep 8 2010, 10:27 AM)
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then wats the final decision? viva or blm?

nabelon
u prefer lowered spring or standard? im selling sapura prorides as well. but i dun provide installations.LOL. lowered gives more stability while turning but meantime proride do not have sport abs for BLM yet.

xshiro
bro, rm200 spring price was a promo price. the price hike already due to labour and petrol cost throughout msia.LOL.

lowmiao
yes. they improved. manual should be less hassle than auto regarding their system.

x_kink
wat's with the radio and alarm?
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my radio cannot get the all channel...likes the signal receiver not power enough...only got 3 radio channel at kuala lumpur area..then i complain at SC...and the problem are solved...don't know what they did...
actually the problem is not alarm..it is door lock at the front passenger side...when i press the alarm to lock the door...not all the door locked..
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the final act for ur sis is test drive both rides with the transmission preferred. it will help in decision making too.

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not all doors locked? means the piston for the central lock not functioning.
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only the front passenger door not locked....other doors is ok...
the SC said they change the door motor...no need to pay because still under warranty
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QUOTE(x_kink @ Sep 8 2010, 01:49 PM)
my radio cannot get the all channel...likes the signal receiver not power enough...only got 3 radio channel at kuala lumpur area..then i complain at SC...and the problem are solved...don't know what they did...
actually the problem is not alarm..it is door lock at the front passenger side...when i press the alarm to lock the door...not all the door locked..
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My friend has the same problem with the radio too, but he never bother much about it since he seldom listen to the radio. hmm.gif
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Hey people, this morning I got my car skidded and I lost control of my car and landed into a ditch. Thank goodness I was not involved in a accident with other vehicles behind or in front or else I would be dead by now.

Now my car's left absorber, joints, and many parts damaged and it will going to costs me RM800++. Wanna ask, is there a way to repair my front alloy rims?

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QUOTE(klk89 @ Sep 8 2010, 07:40 PM)
Hey people, this morning I got my car skidded and I lost control of my car and landed into a ditch. Thank goodness I was not involved in a accident with other vehicles behind or in front or else I would be dead by now.

Now my car's left absorber, joints, and many parts damaged and it will going to costs me RM800++. Wanna ask, is there a way to repair my front alloy rims?
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I believe you can. Reputable tyre shops can spray and get your rims back into shape.
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QUOTE(klk89 @ Sep 8 2010, 07:40 PM)
Hey people, this morning I got my car skidded and I lost control of my car and landed into a ditch. Thank goodness I was not involved in a accident with other vehicles behind or in front or else I would be dead by now.

Now my car's left absorber, joints, and many parts damaged and it will going to costs me RM800++. Wanna ask, is there a way to repair my front alloy rims?
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how u skidded? slippery road?
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I believe you can. Reputable tyre shops can spray and get your rims back into shape.
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Well, I hope so. The scracth was so deep because it skidded to the ditch for a few meters before I managed to stop it. Scary indeed. shocking.gif


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how u skidded? slippery road?
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Apparently yes. Not so slippery but the road were wet and curvy road. I didn't recalled turning my steering to the left and it started swerved towards the left causing me to lose control of my car and I slammed the brakes too hard and unable to bring my car to stationary and it skidded towards the ditch for a few meters. shocking.gif rclxub.gif

I had a feeling is my tyres causing it to skidded because it had no grip at all. Using stock Silverstone tyres.

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QUOTE(klk89 @ Sep 8 2010, 10:56 PM)
Well, I hope so. The scracth was so deep because it skidded to the ditch for a few meters before I managed to stop it. Scary indeed.  shocking.gif


Added on September 8, 2010, 11:00 pm

Apparently yes. Not so slippery but the road were wet and curvy road. I didn't recalled turning my steering to the left and it started swerved towards the left causing me to lose control of my car and I slammed to brakes too hard and unable to bring my car to stationary and it skidded towards the ditch for a few meters.  shocking.gif  rclxub.gif

I had a feeling is my tyres causing it to skidded because it had no grip at all. Using stock Silverstone tyres.
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Stock tyre + no ABS, BLM is very dangerous on wet road. I faced it twice before. 1st time is the motor in front me suddenly overturn, i brake and the car just skidded all the way, and stop 1m before hit the motorcyclist, really lucky for him and me as well, no car behind. sweat.gif 2nd time the car on the road side suddenly come into my lane, i brake and again no sign of stop at all, luckily stop eventually and no car behind as well. sweat.gif sweat.gif .
both case are on the straight road and only 60km/h at that time, just a wet road.

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Sep 8 2010, 11:06 PM)
Stock tyre + no ABS, BLM is very dangerous on wet road. I faced it twice before. 1st time is the motor in front me suddenly overturn, i brake and the car just skidded all the way, and stop 1m before hit the motorcyclist, really lucky for him and me as well, no car behind. sweat.gif 2nd time the car on the road side suddenly come into my lane, i brake and again no sign of stop at all, luckily stop eventually and no car behind as well. sweat.gif  sweat.gif .
both case are on the straight road and only 60km/h at that time, just a wet road.
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So sorry to hear that. This is my 1st time I ever skidded a car. I won't expect a Saga to skidded as I thought Saga has Lotus handling plus its relatively lower center gravity as compared to cars like Myvi and Viva. But well, I am wrong after this incident. Conclusion, better invest on proper tyres for better gripping in the event there is slippery roads or wet roads. It happen out of the sudden, my car suddenly turned to the left by itself. rclxub.gif

P/S: I was driving at 60km/h to 70km/h at that time.

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If you were driving straight slowly and your car suddenly swerved, there might have been oil on the road. I still remember sitting in my friends car on the federal highway facing the usual congestion, when suddenly the car ahead to the left made a 180 degree turn. Scary shit I tell you.

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QUOTE(klk89 @ Sep 8 2010, 10:56 PM)
Well, I hope so. The scracth was so deep because it skidded to the ditch for a few meters before I managed to stop it. Scary indeed.  shocking.gif


Added on September 8, 2010, 11:00 pm

Apparently yes. Not so slippery but the road were wet and curvy road. I didn't recalled turning my steering to the left and it started swerved towards the left causing me to lose control of my car and I slammed the brakes too hard and unable to bring my car to stationary and it skidded towards the ditch for a few meters.  shocking.gif  rclxub.gif

I had a feeling is my tyres causing it to skidded because it had no grip at all. Using stock Silverstone tyres.
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lucky u are ok and ur engine is ok and car still repairable

stock tyre...and i someone told me before..dun brake hard when skidded..try use lower gear instead...

well i got into ditch before..yeah scary...i understand the feeling sweat.gif

about the rim, i think u can get used stock rim...at wheel shop...u can try at kedai papan,kapar klang

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QUOTE(x_kink @ Sep 8 2010, 09:10 AM)
i'm just bought blm 1 month ago...not many major problem...just the radio and the alarm...but it has already solved at SC...
so far...FC is about rm60 for 3xxkm...
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your FC is for 1.3 Auto or Manual???
My friend's Saga is consuming higher and higher FC(I just share what he said)???
He said that his "New" Saga(Auto) in year 2008 can run for 300++km, but now 2010 can only for 250-280km.....
He said that it is becoz his car is ageing = =
Really????


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kobEj0rdan~
then wats the final decision? viva or blm?

nabelon
u prefer lowered spring or standard? im selling sapura prorides as well. but i dun provide installations.LOL. lowered gives more stability while turning but meantime proride do not have sport abs for BLM yet.

xshiro
bro, rm200 spring price was a promo price. the price hike already due to labour and petrol cost throughout msia.LOL.

lowmiao
yes. they improved. manual should be less hassle than auto regarding their system.

x_kink
wat's with the radio and alarm?
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SiuYi, something to ask you....
just to confirm, not to offend...
Is that really improved? One of my friends told me but I am not sure about that....
(Because my another friend bought saga blm in 2008 and now.... his accessories, such as radio, aircon, central lock all got problems before... >< )

Btw, any members here bought your saga blm in Year 2009? any comments to it???

Thanks....
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me bought y. 2009.. so far the only problem was the radio just turn off itself.. the reason,unknown shocking.gif ,
cant detect what cause it.. still under investigation sweat.gif
FC hmm.. rm50 ron97 for around 300km.. engine sound bit annoying.. but, thats fine..


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QUOTE(xshiro @ Sep 9 2010, 01:30 AM)
lucky u are ok and ur engine is ok and car still repairable

stock tyre...and i someone told me before..dun brake hard when skidded..try use lower gear instead...

well i got into ditch before..yeah scary...i understand the feeling  sweat.gif

about the rim, i think u can get used stock rim...at wheel shop...u can try at kedai papan,kapar klang
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For most driver, if the car skid, the 1st reaction is jam the brake as hard as possible to stop the car, they can't even think brake gradually and shift gear, but not our fault, becos this is human nature, thats why the driver aided kits called 'ABS' was born, becos this system won't affected by emotional such as panic. tongue.gif


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So sorry to hear that. This is my 1st time I ever skidded a car. I won't expect a Saga to skidded as I thought Saga has Lotus handling plus its relatively lower center gravity as compared to cars like Myvi and Viva. But well, I am wrong after this incident. Conclusion, better invest on proper tyres for better gripping in the event there is slippery roads or wet roads. It happen out of the sudden, my car suddenly turned to the left by itself.  rclxub.gif

P/S: I was driving at 60km/h to 70km/h at that time.
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Suspension also the culprit in this case. Our suspension is quite soft, when underbraking, the mass transfer to front wheel is very high (you can feel your front end sink alot when u brake hard on dry road) , thats why on dry day, our car seems like can't stop very well, becos the brake not powerful enough, while on wet road, the stock tyres are suck, and easily lock by the brake, thats why skid.

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QUOTE(lowmiao @ Sep 9 2010, 01:47 AM)
your FC is for 1.3 Auto or Manual???
My friend's Saga is consuming higher and higher FC(I just share what he said)???
He said that his "New" Saga(Auto) in year 2008 can run for 300++km, but now 2010 can only for 250-280km.....
He said that it is becoz his car is ageing = =
Really????
SiuYi, something to ask you....
just to confirm, not to offend...
Is that really improved? One of my friends told me but I am not sure about that....
(Because my another friend bought saga blm in 2008 and now.... his accessories, such as radio, aircon, central lock all got problems before... >< )

Btw, any members here bought your saga blm in Year 2009? any comments to it???

Thanks....
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I think that's averaging 10km/l? My 2010 Auto is averaging there as well.

And please do maintain the tyre pressure regularly. Every month, I find I have to pump more air into these 60 series tyres compared to 55 series tyres. Or maybe it's just a percentage thing? hmm.gif

QUOTE(fesick @ Sep 9 2010, 02:30 AM)
me bought y. 2009.. so far the only problem was the radio just turn off itself.. the reason,unknown  shocking.gif ,
cant detect what cause it..  still under investigation  sweat.gif
FC hmm.. rm50 ron97 for around 300km.. engine sound bit annoying.. but, thats fine..
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Turn off as in totally no lights or anything at all on the player, right? Have you checked your fusebox?

QUOTE(coolkwc @ Sep 9 2010, 07:47 AM)
For most driver, if the car skid, the 1st reaction is jam the brake as hard as possible to stop the car, they can't even think brake gradually and shift gear, but not our fault, becos this is human nature, thats why the driver aided kits called 'ABS' was born, becos this system won't affected by emotional such as panic. tongue.gif
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That's true. ABS isn't just "not affected" by panic braking. It depends on the panic braking to activate.
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http://ondscene.my/kemalangan/kepala-pecah...-lori#more-1739

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my ride is one of the 2008 series. and to be frank, the only faulty part is the power window switch ONLY. regarding IAFM, my ride never got that tak tak tak sound at all, but we went to SC and got a free change even without the sound. our SC says better to prevent before it happens. other than that, the gearbox not so smooth, SC change gear lubricant then prob solved. radio no issue, just autosearch off it then settle. alarm good what, but i upgrade to aftermarket after 1 month of usage.

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regarding ABS braking sys, from my understanding: it wont activate under panic braking. it will lock deadly if u press ur brakes in a sudden. my friend told me from his experience with ford ranger ABS and isuzu dmax ABS.


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wah. quite tough also ah the BLM. bang lorry and go over to the opposite road. only the roof gone case..
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roof gone case...the driver head also almost come off....
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my ride is one of the 2008 series. and to be frank, the only faulty part is the power window switch ONLY. regarding IAFM, my ride never got that tak tak tak sound at all, but we went to SC and got a free change even without the sound. our SC says better to prevent before it happens. other than that, the gearbox not so smooth, SC change gear lubricant then prob solved. radio no issue, just autosearch off it then settle. alarm good what, but i upgrade to aftermarket after 1 month of usage.

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regarding ABS braking sys, from my understanding: it wont activate under panic braking. it will lock deadly if u press ur brakes in a sudden. my friend told me from his experience with ford ranger ABS and isuzu dmax ABS.


Added on September 9, 2010, 3:47 pmoh hey~

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lol, like that oso u notice ar? tongue.gif

Anyways, if I understand correctly, the whole point of ABS is to allow users to brake quickly without the wheels locking. When a car has ABS, you cannot pump the brakes like you would on a non ABS car. This would negate the ABS. You're supposed to just depress the brake fully without letting go.

Did your friend try turning the wheels when he was braking hard?
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regarding ABS braking sys, from my understanding: it wont activate under panic braking. it will lock deadly if u press ur brakes in a sudden. my friend told me from his experience with ford ranger ABS and isuzu dmax ABS.
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ABS only activate IF the system detect the wheel slipping
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it wont activate even if u brake suddenly because the system detect that the wheel is still spinning, NOT slipping...
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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Sep 9 2010, 04:29 PM)
lol, like that oso u notice ar? tongue.gif

Anyways, if I understand correctly, the whole point of ABS is to allow users to brake quickly without the wheels locking. When a car has ABS, you cannot pump the brakes like you would on a non ABS car. This would negate the ABS. You're supposed to just depress the brake fully without letting go.

Did your friend try turning the wheels when he was braking hard?
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nope... even if u pump the brakes on the ABS car, the ABS still works
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u cannot pump faster then ABS...

i pump my car which is equipped with ABS and the ABS still works
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QUOTE(muslayer @ Sep 9 2010, 04:24 PM)
roof gone case...the driver head also almost come off....
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Dunno anyone know the person or not

WSJ 8258 plate number
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Just found out that the driver is somebody that I know sad.gif Name is Martin Poon. He's my girlfriend's friend. Drunk driving after clubbing.

TO EVERYONE.. PLEASE DRIVE SAFE... DO NOT DRIVE TOO FAST PLEASE. YOU MIGHT NOT ONLY BRING HARM TO YOUR OWN LIFE BUT ALSO OTHER USERS ON THE ROAD. lIFE IS PRECIOUS

P/S: R.I.P Martin
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If you were driving straight slowly and your car suddenly swerved, there might have been oil on the road. I still remember sitting in my friends car on the federal highway facing the usual congestion, when suddenly the car ahead to the left made a 180 degree turn. Scary shit I tell you.
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That's why I experienced it myself yesterday. Indeed it was a scary moment. For that one second, the car spind one round by itself towards the left and I jammed up the brakes too hard and couldn't get it to stop. Somehow ended into a ditch. sweat.gif


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QUOTE(xshiro @ Sep 9 2010, 01:30 AM)
lucky u are ok and ur engine is ok and car still repairable

stock tyre...and i someone told me before..dun brake hard when skidded..try use lower gear instead...

well i got into ditch before..yeah scary...i understand the feeling  sweat.gif

about the rim, i think u can get used stock rim...at wheel shop...u can try at kedai papan,kapar klang
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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Sep 9 2010, 07:47 AM)
For most driver, if the car skid, the 1st reaction is jam the brake as hard as possible to stop the car, they can't even think brake gradually and shift gear, but not our fault, becos this is human nature, thats why the driver aided kits called 'ABS' was born, becos this system won't affected by emotional such as panic. tongue.gif


Added on September 9, 2010, 7:52 am

Suspension also the culprit in this case. Our suspension is quite soft, when underbraking, the mass transfer to front wheel is very high (you can feel your front end sink alot when u brake hard on dry road) , thats why on dry day, our car seems like can't stop very well, becos the brake not powerful enough, while on wet road, the stock tyres are suck, and easily lock by the brake, thats why skid.
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Yes....that's natural human reaction is to slam the brake as hard as posible. Where got time to shift my gear from D to 3 or 2? It happen so sudden.

After getting my car back from the workshop, I felt my car is not as smooth as last time. When I shift to D or R, the whole car jerks alot and rattles the whole dashboard area and steering wheel. Was it normal? Or should I go back to the workshop? It seems that something was very loose after I had an accident on it yesterday. Can someone advice me about this? icon_question.gif

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QUOTE(DaBestOne @ Sep 9 2010, 06:20 PM)
Just found out that the driver is somebody that I know sad.gif Name is Martin Poon. He's my girlfriend's friend. Drunk driving after clubbing.

TO EVERYONE.. PLEASE DRIVE SAFE... DO NOT DRIVE TOO FAST PLEASE. YOU MIGHT NOT ONLY BRING HARM TO YOUR OWN LIFE BUT ALSO OTHER USERS ON THE ROAD. lIFE IS PRECIOUS

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But according to the link, he involved in racing with other cars before crashing. hmm.gif
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But according to the link, he involved in racing with other cars before crashing. hmm.gif
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i dun think so as he is an offroad driver.he knows how to drive and has his company professional license. he mentioned it is very dangerous if u duno how to drive an ABS ride as the brake lock system needs technique. a panic brake wont stop ur ride, but it will act like there's no brake at all.
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Wanna ask a question, if my car's left front wheel hits the ditch for a few meters, after repaired my car the whole cabin vibration is so loud when I put it to D or R. When the air-con compressor kicks in, the whole dashboard and steering wheel is like going to fall off. Does it mean that something is loose or this might be the aftermath after having an accident?
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Turn off as in totally no lights or anything at all on the player, right? Have you checked your fusebox?
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Wanna ask a question, if my car's left front wheel hits the ditch for a few meters, after repaired my car the whole cabin vibration is so loud when I put it to D or R. When the air-con compressor kicks in, the whole dashboard and steering wheel is like going to fall off. Does it mean that something is loose or this might be the aftermath after having an accident?
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I think you better send to workshop quickly rather than asking here. Maybe some unknown internal damage is done.

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my ride is one of the 2008 series. and to be frank, the only faulty part is the power window switch ONLY. regarding IAFM, my ride never got that tak tak tak sound at all, but we went to SC and got a free change even without the sound. our SC says better to prevent before it happens. other than that, the gearbox not so smooth, SC change gear lubricant then prob solved. radio no issue, just autosearch off it then settle. alarm good what, but i upgrade to aftermarket after 1 month of usage.

+Newbie+
regarding ABS braking sys, from my understanding: it wont activate under panic braking. it will lock deadly if u press ur brakes in a sudden. my friend told me from his experience with ford ranger ABS and isuzu dmax ABS.


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About IAFM, many of people said that their IAFM fail in one year.....

You went to SC to change it???? Even that is no problem???
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i did not change the IAFM, i just replace the what stick which is part of the IAFM.
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ABS only activate IF the system detect the wheel slipping
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it wont activate even if u brake suddenly because the system detect that the wheel is still spinning, NOT slipping...
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nope... even if u pump the brakes on the ABS car, the ABS still works
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u cannot pump faster then ABS...

i pump my car which is equipped with ABS and the ABS still works
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Wheel slipping I assume means locking of wheels? Well, this mostly happens when you brake quickly, mar. tongue.gif

When you pump your brakes, you're actually reducing the ABS' efficiency.

QUOTE(SiuYi @ Sep 9 2010, 09:05 PM)
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i dun think so as he is an offroad driver.he knows how to drive and has his company professional license. he mentioned it is very dangerous if u duno how to drive an ABS ride as the brake lock system needs technique. a panic brake wont stop ur ride, but it will act like there's no brake at all.
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ABS is meant to stop wheel lock, not stop sliding. It just so happens stopping wheel lock reduces sliding in most road situations. That's all.

http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/problems/Equipment/absbrakes.html

QUOTE(That nhtsa article)
Do cars with ABS stop more quickly than cars without? ABS is designed to help the driver maintain control of the vehicle during emergency braking situations, not make the car stop more quickly. ABS may shorten stopping distances on wet or slippery roads and many systems will shorten stopping distances on dry roads. On very soft surfaces, such as loose gravel or unpacked snow, an ABS system may actually lengthen stopping distances. In wet or slippery conditions, you should still make sure you drive carefully, always keep a safe distance behind the vehicle in front of you, and maintain a speed consistent with the road conditions.


I'm sure your friend has a good reason for telling you this. Maybe it's due to him being offroad all the time. The quote above explains that ABS actually increases stopping distance in offroad situations.

http://www.intellichoice.com/carBuying101/AntiLockBrakes

QUOTE(intellichoice article)
Do know the difference between between four-wheel and two- or rear-wheel ABS. Most cars and many trucks have four-wheel ABS. But some light trucks have only rear-wheel ABS; with rear-wheel ABS, the front wheels can still lock up during hard braking. If this happens, you should ease up on the brake pedal with just enough pressure to allow the front wheels to roll again so you can steer.


Or maybe your friend drives light trucks with only rear wheel ABS?

http://brainz.org/how-do-i-best-use-my-cars-abs/

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To properly apply the brakes in an ABS equipped car during a panic stop, simply step on the brake pedal with as much force as you can. You will feel the ABS pulse back through the brake pedal, but this is a normal part of their operation. Likewise, you may hear noises not familiar to you in normal vehicle operation. Continue to brake with maximum pressure as you steer to avoid whatever is in your path. Never pump the brake pedal on an ABS equipped vehicle, as you will defeat the ABS function and lose vacuum assist to the brakes, which will reduce your cars braking ability.


http://editorial.autos.msn.com/article.asp...cumentid=435969

QUOTE(That MSN editorial)
How to Use ABS
"Stomp and steer," Hurd said. Don't treat ABS gingerly as you would ordinary brakes. Instead of pumping, press hard on the pedal without letting up. Any pulsing you feel or noise you hear is the ABS doing its job.
All four articles above mention about how u need to press your brakes fully. Not be gentle with it.

Me and my friends have tested on a few cars previously, where we drive on an empty road at night up to 100 km/h and we slam the brakes as hard as we can. We definitely felt the ABS kick in.

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QUOTE(klk89 @ Sep 9 2010, 09:15 PM)
Wanna ask a question, if my car's left front wheel hits the ditch for a few meters, after repaired my car the whole cabin vibration is so loud when I put it to D or R. When the air-con compressor kicks in, the whole dashboard and steering wheel is like going to fall off. Does it mean that something is loose or this might be the aftermath after having an accident?
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It sounds like your transmission mounting or engine mounting koyak edi. Better do what coolkwc said. Send it to the workshop to get it fixed.

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How on earth can I replace my wiper blades?
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very easy one la, when first time i changed my wiper blades back when i owned a myvi also very hard, after u learn the technique very easy..u basically slip it to the right or left (or was it upwards), anyway its not difficult. I've also changed my saga one to silicon wipers, easy task smile.gif
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QUOTE(CyberKewl @ Sep 10 2010, 05:45 PM)
very easy one la, when first time i changed my wiper blades back when i owned a myvi also very hard, after u learn the technique very easy..u basically slip it to the right or left (or was it upwards), anyway its not difficult. I've also changed my saga one to silicon wipers, easy task smile.gif
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well to me silicone ones are clearer when it wipes the windscreen, costs about 50-70 RM per side if i recall correctly, mine is dura-edge brand, 2 years warranty if i recall correctly, bought at eneos one utama.
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QUOTE(SiuYi @ Sep 9 2010, 09:05 PM)
a panic brake wont stop ur ride, but it will act like there's no brake at all.
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This is true for all vehicles without ABS. A panic brake will cause your brake pads to clamp onto the discs, thus causing the wheels to lock and not move at all. Because of that, the car momentum will cause the car to skid, and the remaining braking power your car will have is between the tyres and the road, which isnt much if there is water in between them.

But with ABS, then it detects brake lock (car tyre not moving, even tho car is still moving), it'll kick in and start working. How it works? It takes over control of your brakes and releases it, so that the wheel can start spinning again and gain back traction with the road. It'll then brake in pulses, to allow the car to brake normally and slow the car down, but it does it in pulses because sometimes when it brakes, if it detects lock again, it will release the brake again.

So ABS is only activated when you do an emergency braking (panic brake). If you do not have ABS, then you have to drive with skill and never stomp on your brakes, so that your car wheels will not lock up and causing your car to skid.
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hello guyz. just wanna ask, saga blm SE will be available until when ea??

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Wheel slipping I assume means locking of wheels? Well, this mostly happens when you brake quickly, mar. tongue.gif

When you pump your brakes, you're actually reducing the ABS' efficiency.
ABS is meant to stop wheel lock, not stop sliding. It just so happens stopping wheel lock reduces sliding in most road situations. That's all.

http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/problems/Equipment/absbrakes.html
I'm sure your friend has a good reason for telling you this. Maybe it's due to him being offroad all the time. The quote above explains that ABS actually increases stopping distance in offroad situations.

http://www.intellichoice.com/carBuying101/AntiLockBrakes
http://editorial.autos.msn.com/article.asp...cumentid=435969
It sounds like your transmission mounting or engine mounting koyak edi. Better do what coolkwc said. Send it to the workshop to get it fixed.
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Oh my goodness. Not again. Does our Saga's engine mounting cost a bomb? Does it pose any risk if I don't go for a repair? Now my pocket sudah berlubang besar. cry.gif
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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Sep 10 2010, 03:20 PM)
Wheel slipping I assume means locking of wheels? Well, this mostly happens when you brake quickly, mar. tongue.gif

When you pump your brakes, you're actually reducing the ABS' efficiency.
ABS is meant to stop wheel lock, not stop sliding. It just so happens stopping wheel lock reduces sliding in most road situations. That's all.

http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/problems/Equipment/absbrakes.html
I'm sure your friend has a good reason for telling you this. Maybe it's due to him being offroad all the time. The quote above explains that ABS actually increases stopping distance in offroad situations.

http://www.intellichoice.com/carBuying101/AntiLockBrakes
http://editorial.autos.msn.com/article.asp...cumentid=435969
It sounds like your transmission mounting or engine mounting koyak edi. Better do what coolkwc said. Send it to the workshop to get it fixed.
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wheel slip and locking of wheels is different
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if i fly over the bump and i just tap the brakes lightly, abs will still kicks in
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nope, depending on how u use it.... i pump my brakes often going up and coming down genting to make use of my ABS
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MAIN point of ABS is to allow u to steer around obstacle NOT shorten your braking distance IN A STRAIGHT LINE.
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My Blm Mline White November 2008, so far,

5th gear no smooth(still exist) may be due to the gear cloth, tear off..
iafm failure, replace the part inside..
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so far so good *touchwood* i like my ride...

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QUOTE(klk89 @ Sep 10 2010, 07:45 PM)
Oh my goodness. Not again. Does our Saga's engine mounting cost a bomb? Does it pose any risk if I don't go for a repair? Now my pocket sudah berlubang besar.  cry.gif
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Imagine the whole set of engine or gearbox suddenly drop to the road when u are driving, and tear into powder by the lorry behind, see you want to repair or not... tongue.gif

Check 1st, since you mentioned 'vibrate like going to falls of', sound very serious for me... hmm.gif

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Sep 11 2010, 02:26 AM)
Imagine the whole set of engine or gearbox suddenly drop to the road when u are driving, and tear into powder by the lorry behind, see you want to repair or not... tongue.gif

Check 1st, since you mentioned 'vibrate like going to falls of', sound very serious for me... hmm.gif
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What a relief, just back from my SC. The mechanic said the engine position senget(maybe the impact of the collision between my front left tyres and the ditch). They help me tighten the engine and place back to position. Now lesser vibration and rattles when my car is at idle. nod.gif

Its a hard lesson to pay. That is don't speed on a curvy wet road. And change the stock tyres to a better ones. Seriously. You will never know what will happen in the future.
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change the tires, bro. stock wont bring u to anywhere but heaven.
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change the tires, bro. stock wont bring u to anywhere but heaven.
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QUOTE(klk89 @ Sep 11 2010, 11:04 AM)
After this incident, I am going to change my tyres to Michelin or Yokohama tyres soon no matter what. I am willing to spend extra money on better grip tyres for my own safety.  I think everyone should change their tyres to better ones for their own safety. nod.gif
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Saga is using what brand tyres for its Stock tyres?
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suggest u to get a front strut bar, at least it will help in handlings.
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saga should be using goodyear unless your branch gave u different brand tyres.
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Silverstone and GoodYear.
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suggest u to get a front strut bar, at least it will help in handlings.
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if i say yes?
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QUOTE(SiuYi @ Sep 11 2010, 11:03 PM)
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if i say yes?
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QUOTE(kcng @ Sep 10 2010, 08:58 PM)
wheel slip and locking of wheels is different
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if i fly over the bump and i just tap the brakes lightly, abs will still kicks in
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nope, depending on how u use it.... i pump my brakes often going up and coming down genting to make use of my ABS

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MAIN point of ABS is to allow u to steer around obstacle NOT shorten your braking distance IN A STRAIGHT LINE.
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In that case, I would've thought that is more related to Traction Control systems. Not Anti Lock Braking systems, since ABS are more related to locking of wheels.


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lol, up to you man. Your car.


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that's what the article i posted was saying in the first place.


QUOTE(klk89 @ Sep 11 2010, 10:23 AM)
What a relief, just back from my SC. The mechanic said the engine position senget(maybe the impact of the collision between my front left tyres and the ditch). They help me tighten the engine and place back to position. Now lesser vibration and rattles when my car is at idle.  nod.gif 

Its a hard lesson to pay. That is don't speed on a curvy wet road. And change the stock tyres to a better ones. Seriously. You will never know what will happen in the future.
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anyone faced difficulty in starting up their car? like I didn't start my car for two days, and then cannot start. I had to keep pressing the oil then only the engine roared to life.. rclxub.gif
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how old is your battery? have you gotten it checked?
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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Sep 12 2010, 08:42 PM)
how old is your battery? have you gotten it checked?
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my car is Aug 2009. so one year? roughly when I should change? going to service 20k 2moro d..
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QUOTE(sonotme @ Sep 12 2010, 10:51 PM)
my car is Aug 2009. so one year? roughly when I should change? going to service 20k 2moro d..
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Hoho, me too, i will going to service for 23k 2moro, but at outside.

Here I 'officially' announce that i will terminate the warranty starting from tomorrow. tongue.gif

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lol, has anyone actually tried that? Really can "trick" them?

QUOTE(sonotme @ Sep 12 2010, 10:51 PM)
my car is Aug 2009. so one year? roughly when I should change? going to service 20k 2moro d..
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im using 3max brand (4 point strut). i got it at rm110 that time at bulk purchase with members of BLMClub.
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QUOTE(gurrenlagann @ Sep 13 2010, 07:26 AM)
lol, juz use the proton oil filter again and nobody will know brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif
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Lol, outside one is still using Proton oil filter one...

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lol, has anyone actually tried that? Really can "trick" them?
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You can trick them by using Proton oil filter, but how about the booklet? So, short speaking, once you skip, warranty gone. tongue.gif

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Lol, outside one is still using Proton oil filter one...
You can trick them by using Proton oil filter, but how about the booklet? So, short speaking, once you skip, warranty gone. tongue.gif
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Hehe, the book says every 10K mar. So tell them you service every 10K lor. At least can go alternate service instead. laugh.gif
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read properly. if u change during 5k interval, no big deal bro. authorized SC very cincai 1. seldom u got issue of claiming again if u go for routine service.
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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Sep 13 2010, 10:15 AM)
Hehe, the book says every 10K mar. So tell them you service every 10K lor. At least can go alternate service instead. laugh.gif
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The SC i went regularly said 'cannot' even booklet not stated. rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(SiuYi @ Sep 13 2010, 10:20 AM)
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read properly. if u change during 5k interval, no big deal bro. authorized SC very cincai 1. seldom u got issue of claiming again if u go for routine service.
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Now my booklet is as below.

So far i gone through 15k service and now is 20k major service.

1. 1k free - at 1220km
2. 5k free - at 7200km
3. 10k free - at 12481km

Haha, then the following make me laugh

since the booklet no 15k interval, so when i went for 15k service @ 17786km, they chop at 20k major service, means i done major service adi? laugh.gif tongue.gif

Means if next time I go to another SC for 30k, then should be no problem rite? since they won't know i guess. tongue.gif

Now my mileage is 23100km, i will go for service later at outside, plan to use full sync (thanks to the xtra save of 'labour charge' at SC) rolleyes.gif , and next oil change should be ~30k. Means i can't void my warranty yet. ohmy.gif rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(yeelin04 @ Sep 13 2010, 12:38 PM)
my car locking system no sound anymore icon_question.gif
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Do you know the sound can disable/enable by using remote control? Maybe u accidentally disable it, common problem for Saga user.

Try to press the two button simultaneously.
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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Sep 13 2010, 01:14 PM)
Do you know the sound can disable/enable by using remote control? Maybe u accidentally disable it, common problem for Saga user.

Try to press the two button simultaneously.
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yay..done it...

but hor, y when i went n gave the accessories shop check, they said alarm spoil? blink.gif
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Fellows!
Know where got get nice arm rest?
Saw someone selling online, the armrest with the round base, but doesn't seem big/nice enough.
Any one already has one?
Can share?

Thanks

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u can try this guy - titanlok from here, he has a thread here:
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1113735&hl=

I'm using this and very happy with it, using it for a year liao so far no issues. recommended seller.
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QUOTE(CyberKewl @ Sep 13 2010, 04:28 PM)
u can try this guy - titanlok from here, he has a thread here:
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I'm using this and very happy with it, using it for a year liao so far no issues. recommended seller.
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I also brought from him...


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QUOTE(klk89 @ Sep 9 2010, 09:15 PM)
Wanna ask a question, if my car's left front wheel hits the ditch for a few meters, after repaired my car the whole cabin vibration is so loud when I put it to D or R. When the air-con compressor kicks in, the whole dashboard and steering wheel is like going to fall off. Does it mean that something is loose or this might be the aftermath after having an accident?
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May be because of the joint that join the front wheel...
Oil leaking?
Pressure imbalance?
Break liao, need change??


Added on September 13, 2010, 6:48 pmMy car bumper being hit again by unknown vehicle...

This time need to repair and repaint the back bumper lo... Haiz...



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QUOTE(yeelin04 @ Sep 13 2010, 02:06 PM)
yay..done it...

but hor, y when i went n gave the accessories shop check, they said alarm spoil?  blink.gif
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haha.. try you tell them your engine like no power... maybe they will tell you your engine got "problem" whistling.gif
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QUOTE(yeelin04 @ Sep 13 2010, 02:06 PM)
yay..done it...

but hor, y when i went n gave the accessories shop check, they said alarm spoil?  blink.gif
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Alarm is using horn, door lock is using buzzer. sweat.gif wink.gif
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My 4 months old car only has a mileage of 3300km and i want to change the engine oil so badly. biggrin.gif
Btw, who often buy engile oil from Zhapalang? The prices are quite reasonable and i've purchased engine oil from them before but im still in doubt whether their oils are original.


Added on September 14, 2010, 12:02 pmBtw i have a thing for pennzoil oils but the full range of pennzoils are hard to get.

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hi guys, just wanna ask BLMs' fuel consumption after 2 yrs (coz my car already 2 yrs). I recently noticed the fuel consumption has gone higher. I use Petronas Ron97 and poured full tank which came up to 64 bux. but the fuel indicator started blinking when it reached 320+ KM on the ODO meter..

my worry is that, it didnt even reach 400km to dry up so fast, is this something abnormal ? do i need to check on something ?
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QUOTE(jaya7 @ Sep 14 2010, 02:29 PM)
hi guys, just wanna ask BLMs' fuel consumption after 2 yrs (coz my car already 2 yrs). I recently noticed the fuel consumption has gone higher. I use Petronas Ron97 and poured full tank which came up to 64 bux. but the fuel indicator started blinking when it reached 320+ KM on the ODO meter..

my worry is that, it didnt even reach 400km to dry up so fast, is this something abnormal ? do i need to check on something ?
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Just this tank only or adi few tanks? Don't judge based on 1 or 2 tanks.

Anyway, how about ur O2 sensor? maybe faulty. I advise you observe more.
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That's like 8.9km/l. That's very bad. What was your avg before this? 400km so works out to about 11km/l?


Added on September 14, 2010, 3:03 pmCoolkwc is right. Just monitor a few rounds to get an avg and then compare with the previous avg.

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Just this tank only or adi few tanks? Don't judge based on 1 or 2 tanks.

Anyway, how about ur O2 sensor? maybe faulty. I advise you observe more.
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few fill ups already, plus when the last bar will turn to solid after few blinks and then blink again, goes solid and then blinks forever..weird.. it used to blink only..
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QUOTE(jaya7 @ Sep 14 2010, 03:04 PM)
few fill ups already, plus when the last bar will turn to solid after few blinks and then blink again, goes solid and then blinks forever..weird.. it used to blink only..
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rclxub.gif Is normal what...because the fuel level just in between the 'blink' and 'solid' boundary, a little movement (car speed, ac/deceleration) of the fuel level can cause this problem.

hmm, you sure ur FC never as high before? Because sometimes very hard to judge, maybe traffic condition not the same.

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When it blinks and then stop blinking, it's normally a borderline case and you went up/down a hill or you revved really hard for awhile then slowed down again.
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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Sep 14 2010, 03:19 PM)
When it blinks and then stop blinking, it's normally a borderline case and you went up/down a hill or you revved really hard for awhile then slowed down again.
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up hill down hill i understand, but this happened on straight road... hmmm... im gonna give it few more tries, confusing tho..
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QUOTE(jaya7 @ Sep 14 2010, 03:32 PM)
up hill down hill i understand, but this happened on straight road... hmmm... im gonna give it few more tries, confusing tho..
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Manual or auto?
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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Sep 13 2010, 02:56 PM)
Haha, aiyah, understood lor smile.gif
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QUOTE(DaBestOne @ Sep 13 2010, 06:54 PM)
haha.. try you tell them your engine like no power... maybe they will tell you your engine got "problem" whistling.gif
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shakehead.gif..but they ask me give back to proton claim laugh.gif

QUOTE(coolkwc @ Sep 13 2010, 09:35 PM)
Alarm is using horn, door lock is using buzzer. sweat.gif  wink.gif
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ok fine...its BUZZER!!!!! laugh.gif

QUOTE(jaya7 @ Sep 14 2010, 03:32 PM)
up hill down hill i understand, but this happened on straight road... hmmm... im gonna give it few more tries, confusing tho..
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eh mine like yours also ley...it blinks on the straight road too..y har?? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(jaya7 @ Sep 14 2010, 02:29 PM)
hi guys, just wanna ask BLMs' fuel consumption after 2 yrs (coz my car already 2 yrs). I recently noticed the fuel consumption has gone higher. I use Petronas Ron97 and poured full tank which came up to 64 bux. but the fuel indicator started blinking when it reached 320+ KM on the ODO meter..

my worry is that, it didnt even reach 400km to dry up so fast, is this something abnormal ? do i need to check on something ?
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when it blinks, and goes back normal, means that ur using the reserve fuel already..means that the last shot u got to reach the next station to refuel. and once it blinks back again, means that u better get ready for anything can happen next.
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anyone here use top mini turbo on their blm?thinking of getting one from a seller here.
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QUOTE(yeelin04 @ Sep 14 2010, 06:04 PM)
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shakehead.gif..but they ask me give back to proton claim  laugh.gif 
ok fine...its BUZZER!!!!!  laugh.gif
eh mine like yours also ley...it blinks on the straight road too..y har??  hmm.gif
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They might charge you for the service charge? whistling.gif
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guys,

i got question to ask:

1) my full tank petrol ron97 can run up to 300-320km...is that normal fc or bad?
2) i read a lot ppl talk abt full syn oil...what the difference btw full syn and semi syn
3) my car has a lot of sound...front passenger seat got sound like rattling when i speed to 100km, behind got some sound like something loose.anyone experience it?

pls advice guys!!!
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Anyone experience engine going dead while driving? Had this a few times, the Proton ppl send the mobile unit 2 times and checked at SC 2 times. They said a component at the floorboard(changed a used one, no spares) then checked wiring at SC but no problem found. Next they say have to check the computer board. They said takes along time to check. No problem so far, although they didnt change anything. A
Anyone had their comp. unit changed?
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QUOTE(DaBestOne @ Sep 15 2010, 12:37 AM)
They might charge you for the service charge? whistling.gif
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but but , no ppl answer my question yet sad.gif

y my cat the petrol tank sometimes will go down 1 bar on straight road, then after a while, regain back that 1 bar icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(inoitu @ Sep 15 2010, 02:00 PM)
Anyone experience engine going dead while driving?  Had this a few times, the Proton ppl send the mobile unit 2 times and checked at SC 2 times.  They said a component at the floorboard(changed a used one, no spares) then checked wiring at SC but no problem found.  Next they say have to check the computer board.  They said takes along time to check.  No problem so far, although they didnt change anything.  A
Anyone had their comp. unit changed?
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sensor...check all of the sensors...

i know a frend who changed his ecu recently...car cant start...at first thought its the battery..bout found out ecu (computer board) was faulty

check this thread too
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=36129593

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QUOTE(yeelin04 @ Sep 15 2010, 02:58 PM)
but but , no ppl answer my question yet sad.gif

y my cat the petrol tank sometimes will go down 1 bar on straight road, then after a while, regain back that 1 bar  icon_question.gif
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Mah adi said liao lo, is normal. Your car is moving, the road is uneven ma, u think mirror meh...if dun believe try put a cup of water inside ur car when u ride on straight road with constant speed. You think your car is 藤原豆腐 AE86 meh... tongue.gif

Not only your car, all Saga BLM fuel gauge behave like that.

Edit: Anyway, happy birthday to my lovely BLM, I love you. wub.gif wish.gif

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QUOTE(xshiro @ Sep 15 2010, 03:59 PM)
sensor...check all of the sensors...

i know a frend who changed his ecu recently...car cant start...at first thought its the battery..bout found out ecu (computer board) was faulty

check this thread too
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=36129593
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Have to wait until car cant produce same probelm, until ECU is in stock. Haih!!!!!! Good sales number but the BLM ecu spares like shit.
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QUOTE(jaya7 @ Sep 14 2010, 04:16 PM)
manual bro...
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bro, mine one also like that.. for a quite long time oledi... 1years..
rm30 of ron95 shell = +-150km mean 16.2litres for 150km..
9.2km/l for ron95...

manual mline here...


Added on September 16, 2010, 12:39 amaiya forgot...

check ur blm iafm lo...
then replace the air filter... cleaning it is no enough...
then check ur tyre pressure lo...
finally drive normally not too slow or fast...
less rev can save more...

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Sep 15 2010, 04:14 PM)
Mah adi said liao lo, is normal. Your car is moving, the road is uneven ma, u think mirror meh...if dun believe try put a cup of water inside ur car when u ride on straight road with constant speed. You think your car is 藤原豆腐 AE86 meh... tongue.gif

Not only your car, all Saga BLM fuel gauge behave like that.

Edit: Anyway, happy birthday to my lovely BLM, I love you. wub.gif  wish.gif
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bday.gif to your saga rclxms.gif
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Guys, when you're at the service center changing the engine oil, does your mechanic pour the whole 4L bottle into the engine?
Mine did. Some engine oil is leaking and im not sure whats causing this and when i checked the dipstick, the engine oil is slightly more than the max level.
I last changed my oil 2 months ago.
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QUOTE(max_cjs0101 @ Sep 16 2010, 11:24 AM)
Guys, when you're at the service center changing the engine oil, does your mechanic pour the whole 4L bottle into the engine?
Mine did. Some engine oil is leaking and im not sure whats causing this and when i checked the dipstick, the engine oil is slightly more than the max level.
I last changed my oil 2 months ago.
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Mine did. If they drain completely, actually 4L won't exceed the dipstick too much. Few days ago i started service outside, they pour in almost 4L inside, still some remained only. My guess is this Campro engine do need more oil compare to old Proton car, maybe the oil tank is bigger.
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The oil pan for Campro is bigger. Hence close to 4 litters is needed.

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not recommended as campro doesnt suit that kind of add-on, it will cause fault readings within the ECU.
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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Sep 16 2010, 12:44 PM)
Mine did. If they drain completely, actually 4L won't exceed the dipstick too much. Few days ago i started service outside, they pour in almost 4L inside, still some remained only. My guess is this Campro engine do need more oil compare to old Proton car, maybe the oil tank is bigger.
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If they poured all the engine oil into the engine, would it cause higher FC? As some members told me before if its too much engine oil will strain the engine to perform smoothly.
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If they poured all the engine oil into the engine, would it cause higher FC? As some members told me before if its too much engine oil will strain the engine to perform smoothly.
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Unless the oil is exceed too much, way beyond the max level. For our BLM, the level will exceed little bit during engine cold, but once u started engine, the level if below the max level, it should be no problem. As Newgen mentioned, the Campro oil pan is larger.

Previously all my services they poured in full 4L inside, but still with good FC.

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my 6 months old auto blm can't get into parking gear!!!
wtf proton~~~
first I think it's the gear knob problem because It get stucks sometimes..
I can get the gear into neutral and reverse but NOT parking gear..
haih.. proton2..

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QUOTE(Invader Zim @ Sep 16 2010, 10:10 PM)
my 6 months old auto blm can't get into parking gear!!!
wtf proton~~~
first I think it's the gear knob problem because It get stucks sometimes..
I can't get the gear into neutral and reverse but NOT parking gear..
haih.. proton2..
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service center kan ader... still under warranty right?
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QUOTE(Invader Zim @ Sep 16 2010, 10:10 PM)
my 6 months old auto blm can't get into parking gear!!!
wtf proton~~~
first I think it's the gear knob problem because It get stucks sometimes..
I can't get the gear into neutral and reverse but NOT parking gear..
haih.. proton2..
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Cant get into Parking gear then how to start the car?
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i just tried my friend's BLM, damn the brake pedal is stiff.

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QUOTE(tednet @ Sep 16 2010, 10:25 PM)
service center kan ader... still under warranty right?
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yes it's under warranty..

QUOTE(DaBestOne @ Sep 17 2010, 12:03 AM)
Cant get into Parking gear then how to start the car?
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sorry for the confusion..
the problem start when I'm arrived at my friend's house.
when I'm finished park the car, I want to change the gear into parking. but it can't
so far now I just park the car in Neutral n turn off the engine ( with hand break pulled)
the weird thing is I can change the gear from neutral to reverse gear..


Added on September 17, 2010, 12:38 amthis is just great.. I left my warranty book at kampung~~
haih.. sad.gif

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izit like stuck? might be inside the gear panel there something blocking or the engine bay there where the connecting rod is something blocking/stuck. just a minor problem i think.
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QUOTE(Invader Zim @ Sep 17 2010, 12:24 AM)
yes it's under warranty..
sorry for the confusion..
the problem start when I'm arrived at my friend's house.
when I'm finished park the car, I want to change the gear into parking. but it can't
so far now I just park the car in Neutral n turn off the engine ( with hand break pulled)
the weird thing is I can change the gear from neutral to reverse gear..


Added on September 17, 2010, 12:38 amthis is just great.. I left my warranty book at kampung~~
haih..  sad.gif
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dude, no worries cause most of their record is on-line, so no book can still go to service center to get check the problem. last time my friend got a similar prob, his car wont start at P, and we call proton i-care to check it, they just pull the gear to L then back to P 3 times and then ok, they said the P did not lock properly. so far he got no problem. unsure.gif unsure.gif
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just got back from eon franchise auto service,
they just opened the gear knob n fix em in 5 minutes.
still dunno what caused it tho..
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Yeah was wondering and when i clicked on the link it went to google images.
Looks like a mini turbo. Btw, i read this in Saga BLM forum:

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at the moment .. the 180kmh is the milestone of any BLM owners want to reach.
any faster than that, i have yet to hear from any of them. may be they cannot be he to tell the story! huhuhu

the 180 stories so far are these - at 180-
1. you are at the tip of your nerve. hands are locked on the steering wheel! frozen!
2. you are in between of being TOOO EXCITED and TOO PANIC to think and do anything. hahaha .... oblivious!seriously!
3. you are on top of the world! TOOO HAPPY to care about whats around you.
4. you are already warmed up as a speed demon since you already hitting 140-160 for the last 5-10 minutes!

your car -
1. it is floating on the road. the traction is so thin, a slight twitch is a sure tumbler!
2. engine is screaming at 6000RPM (Manual) 5000++RPM (Auto), crying begging for you to stop killing the engine!
3. engine roars, fills your ears and making your deaf! ear wax are dropping out on your shoulders!
4. cracking its body, wind swirls and all the ever imagine will come to your senses!

the truth is 180 is achievable. if -
1. roads', car suspension's condition and wind are right.
2. there are no traffic lights in the 10km stretch
3. there are no police / jpj around
4. there are no cars with 1.6 and above or modified engines around!
5. you are ready to be 60 seconds off your logical brain!

at that speed, who cares about a lorry overtaking you? hehehehe
goyang ka? hehehehe after 120, the only thing that is goyang is your lutut! not sure to continue pressing the gas or not!
humming sound is there purely because BLM chassis is so not-soundproof! spend RM1000 plus to soundproof the car like BMW or Honda, you'll see what i mean.
not stable? it is all stable unless the road condition is not, the balancing is not, the tyre pressure is not and the driver is not!

ALL IN ALL:
Still .. dont speed. it kills!
drive you BLM with wisdom and love.

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Its a city car. Not meant to be driven at 180 kph.

Doing so is suicide and nobody will show any pity when your wrecked car appears in the news.

Only consolation is that crashing in Saga at 180 will be the best (and last) driving experience you will come across.
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only drive til 170kmph before.. that also for around 5 min and then slow down dy.. the vibration are unbearable..
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Can the ECU be tuned for lower engine RPM at service centres?
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i hav 1 question for those saga blm manual driver. Any 1 feel swithing within low gear above 2k rpm feeling not smooth ? For example when wan to switch from 1st to 2nd, when the moment u press clutch d car will slow down abit. So passager inside will feel ur driving not smooth. Normally before we switch gear d car is accelerating then d moment u press clutch, d car slow down, after d switching gear, acclerate again right ....
So this feeling accelerate, slow down & accelerate when switching is very annoying. It not smooth !! So any 1 hav this problem ??
i sit on my friend manual wira & perdana dun hav this problem.
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Actually this car can cruise comfortably at 160 especially at north south highway, cornering also ok, that time still on stock rims and suspension.
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hey guys just wondering if any of you know any saga blm crash test videos? out of curiosity. i noticed i can't find any at all.
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QUOTE(hugo_chong @ Sep 17 2010, 05:00 PM)
Hi
i hav 1 question for those saga blm manual driver. Any 1 feel swithing within low gear above 2k rpm feeling not smooth ? For example when wan to switch from 1st to 2nd, when the moment u press clutch d car will slow down abit. So passager inside will feel ur driving not smooth. Normally before we switch gear d car is accelerating then d moment u press clutch, d car slow down, after d switching gear, acclerate again right ....
So this feeling accelerate, slow down & accelerate when switching is very annoying. It not smooth !! So any 1 hav this problem ??
i sit on my friend manual wira & perdana dun hav this problem.
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not recommended as campro doesnt suit that kind of add-on, it will cause fault readings within the ECU.
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Thx siuyi.really hoping for pro advice biggrin.gif but wont the ecu will adjust itself due to the addtional air?

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Boring lah these days...
Anyone into ICE for their BLM?


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QUOTE(Enclave Recruit @ Sep 17 2010, 03:17 PM)
Its a city car. Not meant to be driven at 180 kph.

Doing so is suicide and nobody will show any pity when your wrecked car appears in the news.

Only consolation is that crashing in Saga at 180 will be the best (and last) driving experience you will come across.
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Hi
i hav 1 question for those saga blm manual driver. Any 1 feel swithing within low gear above 2k rpm feeling not smooth ? For example when wan to switch from 1st to 2nd, when the moment u press clutch d car will slow down abit. So passager inside will feel ur driving not smooth. Normally before we switch gear d car is accelerating then d moment u press clutch, d car slow down, after d switching gear, acclerate again right ....
So this feeling accelerate, slow down & accelerate when switching is very annoying. It not smooth !! So any 1 hav this problem ??
i sit on my friend manual wira & perdana dun hav this problem.
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Try reaching 3000+ RPM before switching gear. It will sound a bit noisy but smoother.
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gear change in saga blm should be at least after 3k rpm. sub 2k rpm gear change is hopeless.
and due to no firewall / noise reduction material installed on saga blm, 5.5k rpm in waja / perdana is similar to the sound of 3.5k rpm on saga blm.
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hye guyz
wanna ask regarding the IAFM problem.
is it the problem already fixed by proton??

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guys, im having problem with alignment, recently i rotated my tyre and did tyre alignment n balancing at the same time, but the result is not satisfactory, the car would veer to the left when free my hands from the wheels. I returned to the shop and they adjusted something behind my tyre, saying its fixed, but as soon as i test drove my car, the problem still persists. Should i return to the same shop ? or should i ask another shop to try n fix the prob.

Any idea on what is causing this to happen ? bad workmanship or something wrong with my wheel/handling system?
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QUOTE(yngwie @ Sep 18 2010, 05:03 PM)
gear change in saga blm should be at least after 3k rpm. sub 2k rpm gear change is hopeless.
and due to no firewall / noise reduction material installed on saga blm, 5.5k rpm in waja / perdana is similar to the sound of 3.5k rpm on saga blm.
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Gear shift in between 2.4 - 2.6K rpm is ok for me. Quite smooth.

If I rev above 3K regularly my petrol consumption will skyrocket. Its already crappy at 20 cents/km.



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QUOTE(inoitu @ Sep 15 2010, 02:00 PM)
Anyone experience engine going dead while driving?  Had this a few times, the Proton ppl send the mobile unit 2 times and checked at SC 2 times.  They said a component at the floorboard(changed a used one, no spares) then checked wiring at SC but no problem found.  Next they say have to check the computer board.  They said takes along time to check.  No problem so far, although they didnt change anything.  A
Anyone had their comp. unit changed?
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Yap...i had experienced it 7 times.... my service agents couldnt find anything wrong with it for the 1st 6 times...then they change the sensor inside my car and the problem solve... i think the sensor only cost around RM80. But i am still under warranty so its free... try to ask the mechanics to check the electronic sensor. Normally my car would start up after resting for 20 mins or so.. after it "died" on the road..
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QUOTE(klk89 @ Sep 11 2010, 11:04 AM)
After this incident, I am going to change my tyres to Michelin or Yokohama tyres soon no matter what. I am willing to spend extra money on better grip tyres for my own safety.  I think everyone should change their tyres to better ones for their own safety. nod.gif
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try bridgestone turanza ar-10 then...really recommended... great grip n wet handling....
got mine rm165 a piece....
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QUOTE(kobEj0rdan~ @ Sep 18 2010, 06:35 PM)
hye guyz
wanna ask regarding the IAFM problem.
is it the problem already fixed by proton??
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Interested in this problem also.....
How about the new saga now????

Do the problem still exist in new saga????
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Want to ask.

B-line or m-line better?

Friend says m-line has bigger tyres, thus may contribute to higher fuel consumption. B-line has smaller tyre size.

Is it possible to fix reverse sensor if purchase b-line?
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Well, whatever floats their boat. lol. I'm more interested in what kinda specs they're gonna offer on the new model.
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The tyre size of M and B-line basically is same, M-line with 14" rim and thinner side wall, while B-line with 13" steel rim with thicker side wall, FC difference due to these are neglegible.
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QUOTE(chai85 @ Sep 15 2010, 01:45 PM)
guys,

i got question to ask:

1) my full tank petrol ron97 can run up to 300-320km...is that normal fc or bad?
2) i read a lot ppl talk abt full syn oil...what the difference btw full syn and semi syn
3) my car has a lot of sound...front passenger seat got sound like rattling when i speed to 100km, behind got some sound like something loose.anyone experience it?

pls advice guys!!!
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M line is using 185/60R14 tyre while B line 175/60R13.
So, yes B line have smaller tyre.

But I think the difference of FC is not much.
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The tyre size of M and B-line basically is same, M-line with 14" rim and thinner side wall, while B-line with 13" steel rim with thicker side wall, FC difference due to these are neglegible.
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M line is using 185/60R14 tyre while B line 175/60R13.
So, yes B line have smaller tyre.

But I think the difference of FC is not much.
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I see. Going to work soon. Torn between these two specs. What I don't like about b-line is only the absence of its reverse sensor. Others are okay. Thanks! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(acronyx @ Sep 18 2010, 12:54 PM)
Try reaching 3000+ RPM before switching gear. It will sound a bit noisy but smoother.
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QUOTE(yngwie @ Sep 18 2010, 05:03 PM)
gear change in saga blm should be at least after 3k rpm. sub 2k rpm gear change is hopeless.
and due to no firewall / noise reduction material installed on saga blm, 5.5k rpm in waja / perdana is similar to the sound of 3.5k rpm on saga blm.
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Normally i switch gear is around 2k rpm but the power is ok for me, maybe i using a light engine oil. But the problem shouldn't related to a light engine oil ma. One of my friend is a car technition, he ask try not to rev d car so much in low gear to prevent d not smooth in low gear.
i do experience rev more in low gear, d not smoothness become more obvious.
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QUOTE(gurrenlagann @ Sep 20 2010, 03:21 PM)
1) MT? AT? 100% city drive? For AT is normal, some even could only reach the range 240~280km; For some MT users also normal because of traffic jam.
2) Fully last 10k km; Semi last 5k km, but proton oil filter could only last 5k km, this is what i could tell u. For futher info, u need to google by yourself
3) lol, this must explore yurself and try to diy solve them yurself, especially door panel noise. Most of us here are diy to solve the noises by ourselves. Going to SC no much hopes icon_rolleyes.gif
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doh.gif I used full synt for this time, i plan to change after 8-9k, then how?
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Guys, I've had this car for 5 weeks

Millage is at 3800km and is suffering a lot from unable to start the car

Whenever I plug in the key, turn it there's normal engine starting sound then it dies off. Then I try to turn it again, no response at all, though I could hear some sharp electronic sound.

Then I have to unplug it, wait for a min or two, try it again and repeat the process tills it comes to live, oh I did not mention that I have to push the acceleration peddle so only it could start. I've sent to check twice and they say no problem mad.gif but it is quite obvious there is a problem and it's giving me headache everyday

Any idea what's wrong so the next time I send to check I could at least tell them to check at specific areas?

Thanks
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QUOTE(gurrenlagann @ Sep 20 2010, 03:21 PM)
1) MT? AT? 100% city drive? For AT is normal, some even could only reach the range 240~280km; For some MT users also normal because of traffic jam.
2) Fully last 10k km; Semi last 5k km, but proton oil filter could only last 5k km, this is what i could tell u. For futher info, u need to google by yourself
3) lol, this must explore yurself and try to diy solve them yurself, especially door panel noise. Most of us here are diy to solve the noises by ourselves. Going to SC no much hopes icon_rolleyes.gif
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Hi guys.. I'm driving a Myvi. Wanted to service my car, went to a workshop just now. Asked the mechanic about the difference of full and semi syn oil. The guy told me that fully sin oil last 7 km only shocking.gif and semi lasts 5km as expected. He says he uses Shell engine oil. The price for full syn oil including service charge is rm200++ and rm99 for semi syn. Are the things said by him considered true?

Thanks in advance for the answers guys notworthy.gif
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Gear shift in between 2.4 - 2.6K rpm is ok for me. Quite smooth.

If I rev above 3K regularly my petrol consumption will skyrocket. Its already crappy at 20 cents/km.
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i thought mine only at 0.20cent/km...
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hi guys,

last time when i servicing my blm, the mechanics told me the hole of oil sump pan thread already striping.. but he do nothing...just inform me... the mileage of the car 55000km...

anyone encounters same problem as me before?..how much the oil pan...and if re-threaded the oil pan hole how much? he said to me quite expensive around rm700 to replace the oil pan? me like...whoaaaa...is it true??

geez every 5k need to open that drain bolt...


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Hi guys.. I'm driving a Myvi. Wanted to service my car, went to a workshop just now. Asked the mechanic about the difference of full and semi syn oil. The guy told me that fully sin oil last 7 km only shocking.gif and semi lasts 5km as expected. He says he uses Shell engine oil. The price for full syn oil including service charge is rm200++ and rm99 for semi syn. Are the things said by him considered true?

Thanks in advance for the answers guys notworthy.gif
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full synthetic should be at least 10,000km interval... as my sister forte use petronas synthetic that recommend by naza...the interval is 10k


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full synthetic should be at least 10,000km interval... as my sister forte use petronas synthetic that recommend by naza...the interval is 10k
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how about the price? The mechanic quoted me RM200++.. WTH shocking.gif
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bring to sc ask them checking all sensors....


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QUOTE(NicJolin @ Sep 20 2010, 04:41 PM)
Guys, I've had this car for 5 weeks

Millage is at 3800km and is suffering a lot from unable to start the car

Whenever I plug in the key, turn it there's normal engine starting sound then it dies off. Then I try to turn it again, no response at all, though I could hear some sharp electronic sound.

Then I have to unplug it, wait for a min or two, try it again and repeat the process tills it comes to live, oh I did not mention that I have to push the acceleration peddle so only it could start. I've sent to check twice and they say no problem mad.gif but it is quite obvious there is a problem and it's giving me headache everyday

Any idea what's wrong so the next time I send to check I could at least tell them to check at specific areas?

Thanks
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pity you.. hmm.gif obviously got problem...dont know why sc technician cant figure it out

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Today I brought to Proton Edaran, they check & say is something to do with the plug for the key, the ring antenna or something.

No ready stock for replacement though & covered by warranty.
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FC really that high for manual compare to auto? I have already book M-line (MT) today.
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FC really that high for manual compare to auto? I have already book M-line (MT) today.
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FC for manual is better than auto, no matter if on hiway or city , unless BLM auto is DSG type gearbox
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who told u that bro,
FC for manual is better than auto, no matter if on  hiway or city , unless BLM auto is DSG type gearbox
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QUOTE(cyrusdidi @ Sep 21 2010, 06:07 PM)
From a few posts above maybe. Then I'm relieved. laugh.gif Maybe as from what they said, need to get used with the clutch when get the car. Hope everything is smooth and join the saga family soon  nod.gif
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QUOTE(DaBestOne @ Sep 22 2010, 12:39 AM)
No matter what sure Manual more fuel saving if compared with Auto transmission bro.
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Penang drivers typically buy cars with auto transmission since the roads here are narrow and short with jams left and right. Very few chances to go above 60 kph.



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Fully sync interval service 10,000km
Semi sync interval service 7,000km
Mineral interval service 5,000km

Choosing the engine oil are depends on your usage, for sure more higher grade provide better protection and more power. The different are the oil based and additive.


Added on September 22, 2010, 1:26 pmAnyone know where can i get a secondhand campro 1.3 or 1.6 empty engine? Or anyone here letting go his campro engine?

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I just got the car today, B-line Genetic Silver Auto biggrin.gif
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If you are taking 9 years, you should receive less not more...
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QUOTE(Enclave Recruit @ Sep 22 2010, 08:48 PM)
Damn. They are ripping u off. My loan with RHB is only 3.5% (circa October 2009).

If you are taking 9 years, you should receive less not more...
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9 years of course higher rate la, who told u lower one? and ur is Oct last year, didm't u know the interest rate adi raised? doh.gif

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9 years of course higher rate la, who told u lower one? and ur is Oct last year, didm't u know the interest rate adi raised? doh.gif
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wow, that's high.. my friend got 4.35% P.A for 9years, apply full loan, with bank islam..

i thought for 9 years it should be 4.1% P.A hmm.gif
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QUOTE(h4dRi @ Sep 22 2010, 09:08 PM)
wow, that's high.. my friend got 4.35% P.A for 9years, apply full loan, with bank islam..

i thought for 9 years it should be 4.1% P.A hmm.gif
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9 years of course higher rate la, who told u lower one? and ur is Oct last year, didm't u know the interest rate adi raised? doh.gif
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Hopefully this car serves me well then I find it's ok smile.gif
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that's what i thought too, but it turn out on my friend case, it's because she apply for full loan and because she just start working..

and here i see another with 4.45%..
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Hi guys, i have something to share, somebody said to me,
"wahh your aircond cold lah, i believe becoz the car is so small", is our car that small compared to other sedans ?
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9 years of course higher rate la, who told u lower one? and ur is Oct last year, didm't u know the interest rate adi raised? doh.gif
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Interest rate rise so much in a year. Hurts like a !@#$%
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Holy shit. I thought my interest was bad ... sweat.gif

@nabelon
That depends. If you compare it to a C segment sedan like the Altis or Civic, sure lar. If you compare it against, say a Vios or a City, I think they're comparable in size, albeit slightly smaller.

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QUOTE(nabelon @ Sep 22 2010, 11:22 PM)
Hi guys, i have something to share, somebody said to me,
"wahh your aircond cold lah, i believe becoz the car is so small", is our car that small compared to other sedans ?
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Nah I disagree. Its the aircon. Saga's aircon is really cold.

I've sat in the Viva which is smaller but its aircon wasn't as cold as the BLM's.
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Speaking of the air cond, yes, it is very cold. biggrin.gif
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wow... the rate really hurt a lot...
mine 3.99% for 9years,, 12/2008 bought...


Added on September 23, 2010, 12:55 amgovernment should support local car...
how about 3% or 2.5% for malaysian citizen for their 1st local car...


Added on September 23, 2010, 12:56 am
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Speaking of the air cond, yes, it is very cold. biggrin.gif
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yup, is damm cold... & damm noisy when it kick in...

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hopefully u enjoy ur car, adding your name to pround owner list
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Thanks biggrin.gif

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how long it is for your loan approval from the date you apply, please?
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It was approved within 3 days.

Btw like you guys said the air cond is really something even I just turn to one level already pretty cold sweat.gif

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Added on September 23, 2010, 1:23 amblm aircond d*** amazing.. the best part for proton.. smile.gif

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Proton Air Cond always the best.
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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Sep 23 2010, 12:37 AM)
Speaking of the air cond, yes, it is very cold. biggrin.gif
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Ya, too cold. tongue.gif

Well Proton put in the compressor that grab 35Nm out of 120Nm peak torque from the engine, of course cold lo. sweat.gif
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Yeah, haha, that's true. sweat.gif
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haha.. but ok la.. proton knw living in malaysia nid d*** good air cond ma..
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QUOTE(xshiro @ Sep 22 2010, 09:31 PM)
wow i didnt notice interest ady raised...i bought my car in 2008 with 10% downpayment..and 3.99 interest rate...maybank


Added on September 22, 2010, 9:32 pm

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Xshiro, how about ur car now? running well? hmm.gif
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anyone..

what is the voltage for a car battery?? 12v..

how bout...
running voltage??
starting voltage??
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anyone..

what is the voltage for a car battery?? 12v..

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starting voltage??
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Car battery voltage is 12v 'theoretically', Running voltage is about 14.6V, if engine off should be around 12.5-13v.

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Car battery voltage is 12v 'theoretically', Running voltage is about 14.6V, if engine off should be around 12.5-13v.
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then mine need change lo...
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QUOTE(xshiro @ Sep 23 2010, 02:21 PM)
in workshop, havent done anything yet...looking for new lung...maybe campro or mitsu halfcut...unsure  doh.gif
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Added on September 24, 2010, 11:14 amYeelin04, not really sure about your problem. Maybe it's a sensor problem? At your next service complain to SC lar. Ask them to check.

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Finally the common problem started to plague my BLM after a year of usage.

The rat noise from the alternator bearing during cold start. Started to happen since this Monday, after i went back hometown from JB-Ipoh-JB total 1100km journey on Saturday-Sunday. Before this i'm sure didn't have these noise.

Actually i'm not worry since the noise will dissappear after 2 minutes. just I feel Campro in terms of durability is not so satisfying, because everytime i will found new problem after such long run.

1st my IAFM started to give noise during cold start right after the same journey on last June, now the bearing/bell. I didn't speeding at highway one, 99% maintain at 3.4k rpm @ 105km/h. I still suspect the short gear ratio has lead to unnecessary heavy work for the engine during long distance cruising will finally bring disaster to the engine in one day. sweat.gif

But luckily the FC are still same as new car, at that speed managed to get 16km/L @ 6.1L/100km.

I really think Saga is not suitable for long distance journey, how you guys think? hmm.gif

Anyway, tmr or Sunday probably i will go to sound proof my car, flooring 1st, quoted RM1.3k.

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Where are you going for the sound proofing?
What kind of material?

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Famous Audio @ Tmn Impian Emas, Johor.

The material is STP bitoplast, RM80 per piece, roughly need 12 pieces for flooring purpose. Workmenship 250, after sound dampening, need to add sound insulator, need 2~3 pieces, 140-200.
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Sorry for you, bro. What's a new lung? Air intake? You using workshop car right now, ar?


Added on September 24, 2010, 11:14 amYeelin04, not really sure about your problem. Maybe it's a sensor problem? At your next service complain to SC lar. Ask them to check.
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sorry i mean new heart...

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nowdays half cut campro how much?

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nowdays half cut campro how much?
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I think u better get back campro engine. U no need modify ur mounting or other stuff. Plug and play
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I think u better get back campro engine.  U no need modify ur mounting or other stuff. Plug and play
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dunno last time 3-4k can get ady..now maybe only engine lantai can get with that price
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Search for Campro CPS? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(NicJolin @ Sep 20 2010, 04:41 PM)
Guys, I've had this car for 5 weeks

Millage is at 3800km and is suffering a lot from unable to start the car

Whenever I plug in the key, turn it there's normal engine starting sound then it dies off. Then I try to turn it again, no response at all, though I could hear some sharp electronic sound.

Then I have to unplug it, wait for a min or two, try it again and repeat the process tills it comes to live, oh I did not mention that I have to push the acceleration peddle so only it could start. I've sent to check twice and they say no problem mad.gif but it is quite obvious there is a problem and it's giving me headache everyday

Any idea what's wrong so the next time I send to check I could at least tell them to check at specific areas?

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Firstly tell me key transponder spoiled. Changed, still can't start. Then tell me settings wrong, reset still no avail. Fock now tell me ECU unit might be spoil wtf man. Need a major check up and can't even take car today. Even told me not sure cover by warranty or not, worst the mechanic keep asking me did I do any personal alterations to the car mad.gif

Proton, seriously once is enough.
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guys, my mileage is nearing the 20K km, refering to proton service is around 400++,
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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Sep 24 2010, 02:04 PM)
Finally the common problem started to plague my BLM after a year of usage.

The rat noise from the alternator bearing during cold start. Started to happen since this Monday, after i went back hometown from JB-Ipoh-JB total 1100km journey on Saturday-Sunday. Before this i'm sure didn't have these noise.

Actually i'm not worry since the noise will dissappear after 2 minutes. just I feel Campro in terms of durability is not so satisfying, because everytime i will found new problem after such long run.

1st my IAFM started to give noise during cold start right after the same journey on last June, now the bearing/bell. I didn't speeding at highway one, 99% maintain at 3.4k rpm @ 105km/h. I still suspect the short gear ratio has lead to unnecessary heavy work for the engine during long distance cruising will finally bring disaster to the engine in one day. sweat.gif

But luckily the FC are still same as new car, at that speed managed to get 16km/L @ 6.1L/100km.

I really think Saga is not suitable for long distance journey, how you guys think? hmm.gif

Anyway, tmr or Sunday probably i will go to sound proof my car, flooring 1st, quoted RM1.3k.
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how far oni consider long distance??=x
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Sifus , please help me on detecting the pics below, which part they are supposed to be ? i can only tell myself that its from the bottom car.

jus nw i was washing my car and outta sudden heard this sound "tingting" something fell on the ground and i picked it up and uploaded it here. Thanks. cry.gif

Image might takes a few secs to load . file size kinda big sweat.gif

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exhuast hanger?
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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Sep 24 2010, 03:31 PM)
Famous Audio @ Tmn Impian Emas, Johor.

The material is STP bitoplast, RM80 per piece, roughly need 12 pieces for flooring purpose. Workmenship 250, after sound dampening, need to add sound insulator, need 2~3 pieces, 140-200.
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Im Looking to get a SAGA SE Red Colour AT, Anyone knoe where can i get full loan for it ? around old klang road ?

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