Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

Bump Topic Topic Closed RSS Feed

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

 PROTON SAGA BLMCLUB V11, version eleven

views
     
klk89
post Aug 21 2010, 01:04 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
165 posts

Joined: Apr 2008
QUOTE(CyberKewl @ Aug 20 2010, 10:46 PM)
anyone face problem while driving off and on can hear like "cit cit" sound coming from engine area? my car got this weird sound dunno why but i dont feel any problem with the car, just off an on got this weird sound..wonder if its IAFM issue
*
More like a belt...like not much lubricant on it. Ask your Sc people to put some oil or lubricant on the belt.
klk89
post Aug 26 2010, 09:16 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
165 posts

Joined: Apr 2008
Just out of curiosity, does manual Saga owners feel a significant power loss when the air-con compressor kicks in even if you floor the accelerator?

This post has been edited by klk89: Aug 26 2010, 09:17 PM
klk89
post Aug 26 2010, 10:13 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
165 posts

Joined: Apr 2008
QUOTE(coolkwc @ Aug 26 2010, 09:56 PM)
Normal.
*
Ohh..I see. Coz I am driving an auto Saga. Can feel the power loss even driving through normal road. So just wanna see whether does manual owners suffer the same problem too.
klk89
post Aug 26 2010, 11:39 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
165 posts

Joined: Apr 2008
QUOTE(dvinez @ Aug 26 2010, 11:00 PM)
install VS can help a bit..at least for me..
*
But I think not much improvement over torque dip due to air-con compressor kicks in? More like voltage stabiliser for electronic stuff.
klk89
post Aug 30 2010, 09:10 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
165 posts

Joined: Apr 2008
QUOTE(CyberKewl @ Aug 28 2010, 03:09 PM)
brother, they don't open on saturday. I just called them on wednesday (or thursday? cant remember) and they're still open for business.
*
Why not you go to their shop and make an appointment with them. Because their parking bay was at the back of their shop and only can accommodate one vehicle. >.<
klk89
post Sep 4 2010, 12:58 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
165 posts

Joined: Apr 2008
My car starting to have the noisy "lorry" sound. I guess my IAFM starting to faulty. How long will it take to replace the IAFM? I heard its a very long process of replacing it because its connected to engine bay and some valves. Was it normal for it to be faulty around 1 year plus of usage? Faulty IAFM is like the most common problem happened in a Saga. sad.gif
klk89
post Sep 4 2010, 09:54 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
165 posts

Joined: Apr 2008
QUOTE(DaBestOne @ Sep 4 2010, 04:11 PM)
How long have you been driving your car bro?
*
Got my car around March 2009. 1 and 1/2 years lo.


Added on September 4, 2010, 9:56 pm
QUOTE(xshiro @ Sep 4 2010, 05:12 PM)
actually ar it can be done within 1-2 hours only...if the spare part is ready stock..they can install it for ur immediately...leave ur car in the morning..then evening can take ..if there is a long queue

there is a new batch of IAFM


Added on September 4, 2010, 5:15 pm

there is a lot of similar tak tak sound which is normal...but there is one tak tak sound...more like plastic sound with somekind of a tone...
*
I hope the newer batch of IAFM could last longer compared to the older batch. Even inside the cabin can hear the tak tak sound. Very annoying. Will go make an appointment with my SC one day. =(

This post has been edited by klk89: Sep 4 2010, 09:56 PM
klk89
post Sep 4 2010, 10:26 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
165 posts

Joined: Apr 2008
QUOTE(xshiro @ Sep 4 2010, 10:09 PM)
can be heard from inside cabin.. confirm iafm...
*
Many members in this forum complaining about tak tak tak sound that is related to IAFM faulty. Never thought my car will get this problem. I am wrong. Because I thought my IAFM was the newer batch. How to differentiate an old one and the newer batch? My IAFM sticker was yellow coloured.


Added on September 4, 2010, 10:27 pm
QUOTE(coolkwc @ Sep 4 2010, 10:24 PM)
Very surprise that my car IAFM can 'self recover'  tongue.gif On June i drove back JB-Ipoh, total 1100KM. The morning after i started my car can heard the 'tak tak' IAFM noise, i thought it might kong adi, but only make noise during cold start, after few KM, no more this kind of sound. Recently even cold start also won't have adi, kinda magic... laugh.gif
*
Wow...I wished that my IAFM could self-recover by itself. biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by klk89: Sep 4 2010, 10:27 PM
klk89
post Sep 8 2010, 07:40 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
165 posts

Joined: Apr 2008
Hey people, this morning I got my car skidded and I lost control of my car and landed into a ditch. Thank goodness I was not involved in a accident with other vehicles behind or in front or else I would be dead by now.

Now my car's left absorber, joints, and many parts damaged and it will going to costs me RM800++. Wanna ask, is there a way to repair my front alloy rims?

This post has been edited by klk89: Sep 8 2010, 07:42 PM


Attached thumbnail(s)
Attached Image
klk89
post Sep 8 2010, 10:56 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
165 posts

Joined: Apr 2008
QUOTE(claxxion @ Sep 8 2010, 09:17 PM)
I believe you can. Reputable tyre shops can spray and get your rims back into shape.
*
Well, I hope so. The scracth was so deep because it skidded to the ditch for a few meters before I managed to stop it. Scary indeed. shocking.gif


Added on September 8, 2010, 11:00 pm
QUOTE(xshiro @ Sep 8 2010, 10:28 PM)
how u skidded? slippery road?
*
Apparently yes. Not so slippery but the road were wet and curvy road. I didn't recalled turning my steering to the left and it started swerved towards the left causing me to lose control of my car and I slammed the brakes too hard and unable to bring my car to stationary and it skidded towards the ditch for a few meters. shocking.gif rclxub.gif

I had a feeling is my tyres causing it to skidded because it had no grip at all. Using stock Silverstone tyres.

This post has been edited by klk89: Sep 8 2010, 11:04 PM
klk89
post Sep 9 2010, 12:01 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
165 posts

Joined: Apr 2008
QUOTE(coolkwc @ Sep 8 2010, 11:06 PM)
Stock tyre + no ABS, BLM is very dangerous on wet road. I faced it twice before. 1st time is the motor in front me suddenly overturn, i brake and the car just skidded all the way, and stop 1m before hit the motorcyclist, really lucky for him and me as well, no car behind. sweat.gif 2nd time the car on the road side suddenly come into my lane, i brake and again no sign of stop at all, luckily stop eventually and no car behind as well. sweat.gif  sweat.gif .
both case are on the straight road and only 60km/h at that time, just a wet road.
*
So sorry to hear that. This is my 1st time I ever skidded a car. I won't expect a Saga to skidded as I thought Saga has Lotus handling plus its relatively lower center gravity as compared to cars like Myvi and Viva. But well, I am wrong after this incident. Conclusion, better invest on proper tyres for better gripping in the event there is slippery roads or wet roads. It happen out of the sudden, my car suddenly turned to the left by itself. rclxub.gif

P/S: I was driving at 60km/h to 70km/h at that time.

This post has been edited by klk89: Sep 9 2010, 12:03 AM
klk89
post Sep 9 2010, 06:33 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
165 posts

Joined: Apr 2008
QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Sep 9 2010, 12:17 AM)
If you were driving straight slowly and your car suddenly swerved, there might have been oil on the road. I still remember sitting in my friends car on the federal highway facing the usual congestion, when suddenly the car ahead to the left made a 180 degree turn. Scary shit I tell you.
*
That's why I experienced it myself yesterday. Indeed it was a scary moment. For that one second, the car spind one round by itself towards the left and I jammed up the brakes too hard and couldn't get it to stop. Somehow ended into a ditch. sweat.gif


Added on September 9, 2010, 6:35 pm
QUOTE(xshiro @ Sep 9 2010, 01:30 AM)
lucky u are ok and ur engine is ok and car still repairable

stock tyre...and i someone told me before..dun brake hard when skidded..try use lower gear instead...

well i got into ditch before..yeah scary...i understand the feeling  sweat.gif

about the rim, i think u can get used stock rim...at wheel shop...u can try at kedai papan,kapar klang
*
Human's natural reaction is to press the brakes hard in case of emergencies. The rims I think need to skim it. No money to buy a new sets of rims. =(


Added on September 9, 2010, 6:38 pm
QUOTE(coolkwc @ Sep 9 2010, 07:47 AM)
For most driver, if the car skid, the 1st reaction is jam the brake as hard as possible to stop the car, they can't even think brake gradually and shift gear, but not our fault, becos this is human nature, thats why the driver aided kits called 'ABS' was born, becos this system won't affected by emotional such as panic. tongue.gif


Added on September 9, 2010, 7:52 am

Suspension also the culprit in this case. Our suspension is quite soft, when underbraking, the mass transfer to front wheel is very high (you can feel your front end sink alot when u brake hard on dry road) , thats why on dry day, our car seems like can't stop very well, becos the brake not powerful enough, while on wet road, the stock tyres are suck, and easily lock by the brake, thats why skid.
*
Yes....that's natural human reaction is to slam the brake as hard as posible. Where got time to shift my gear from D to 3 or 2? It happen so sudden.

After getting my car back from the workshop, I felt my car is not as smooth as last time. When I shift to D or R, the whole car jerks alot and rattles the whole dashboard area and steering wheel. Was it normal? Or should I go back to the workshop? It seems that something was very loose after I had an accident on it yesterday. Can someone advice me about this? icon_question.gif

This post has been edited by klk89: Sep 9 2010, 06:38 PM
klk89
post Sep 9 2010, 09:15 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
165 posts

Joined: Apr 2008
Wanna ask a question, if my car's left front wheel hits the ditch for a few meters, after repaired my car the whole cabin vibration is so loud when I put it to D or R. When the air-con compressor kicks in, the whole dashboard and steering wheel is like going to fall off. Does it mean that something is loose or this might be the aftermath after having an accident?
klk89
post Sep 10 2010, 07:45 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
165 posts

Joined: Apr 2008
QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Sep 10 2010, 03:20 PM)
Wheel slipping I assume means locking of wheels? Well, this mostly happens when you brake quickly, mar. tongue.gif

When you pump your brakes, you're actually reducing the ABS' efficiency.
ABS is meant to stop wheel lock, not stop sliding. It just so happens stopping wheel lock reduces sliding in most road situations. That's all.

http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/problems/Equipment/absbrakes.html
I'm sure your friend has a good reason for telling you this. Maybe it's due to him being offroad all the time. The quote above explains that ABS actually increases stopping distance in offroad situations.

http://www.intellichoice.com/carBuying101/AntiLockBrakes
http://editorial.autos.msn.com/article.asp...cumentid=435969
It sounds like your transmission mounting or engine mounting koyak edi. Better do what coolkwc said. Send it to the workshop to get it fixed.
*
Oh my goodness. Not again. Does our Saga's engine mounting cost a bomb? Does it pose any risk if I don't go for a repair? Now my pocket sudah berlubang besar. cry.gif
klk89
post Sep 11 2010, 10:23 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
165 posts

Joined: Apr 2008
QUOTE(coolkwc @ Sep 11 2010, 02:26 AM)
Imagine the whole set of engine or gearbox suddenly drop to the road when u are driving, and tear into powder by the lorry behind, see you want to repair or not... tongue.gif

Check 1st, since you mentioned 'vibrate like going to falls of', sound very serious for me... hmm.gif
*
What a relief, just back from my SC. The mechanic said the engine position senget(maybe the impact of the collision between my front left tyres and the ditch). They help me tighten the engine and place back to position. Now lesser vibration and rattles when my car is at idle. nod.gif

Its a hard lesson to pay. That is don't speed on a curvy wet road. And change the stock tyres to a better ones. Seriously. You will never know what will happen in the future.
klk89
post Sep 11 2010, 11:04 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
165 posts

Joined: Apr 2008
QUOTE(SiuYi @ Sep 11 2010, 10:51 AM)
klk89
change the tires, bro. stock wont bring u to anywhere but heaven.
*
After this incident, I am going to change my tyres to Michelin or Yokohama tyres soon no matter what. I am willing to spend extra money on better grip tyres for my own safety. I think everyone should change their tyres to better ones for their own safety. nod.gif
klk89
post Sep 11 2010, 11:00 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
165 posts

Joined: Apr 2008
QUOTE(SiuYi @ Sep 11 2010, 11:24 AM)
klk89
suggest u to get a front strut bar, at least it will help in handlings.
*
Does it helps alot in terms of handling?
klk89
post Sep 16 2010, 05:51 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
165 posts

Joined: Apr 2008
QUOTE(coolkwc @ Sep 16 2010, 12:44 PM)
Mine did. If they drain completely, actually 4L won't exceed the dipstick too much. Few days ago i started service outside, they pour in almost 4L inside, still some remained only. My guess is this Campro engine do need more oil compare to old Proton car, maybe the oil tank is bigger.
*
If they poured all the engine oil into the engine, would it cause higher FC? As some members told me before if its too much engine oil will strain the engine to perform smoothly.
klk89
post Sep 28 2010, 10:02 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
165 posts

Joined: Apr 2008
Hi people. Tomorrow I will be doing my 20K major service. What are the estimated cost and stuff that they will change? I am clueless everytime I went for major service. Because I don't know what stuff they normally change. One note, my IAFM suddenly don't have sound anymore. Should I address it to the SC people? hmm.gif
klk89
post Sep 28 2010, 10:38 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
165 posts

Joined: Apr 2008
QUOTE(coolkwc @ Sep 28 2010, 10:20 PM)
No need to address anything, becos they will listen and say 'ur IAFM tak de masalah, tunggu lebih bising baru tukar'. They won't simply change it based on what you say to them.
*
I guess they won't even noticed the sound until it really make the lorry noise.


Added on September 28, 2010, 10:40 pm
QUOTE(Vincent_A8fm @ Sep 28 2010, 10:33 PM)
Tio them la... Say la, no u start ignition, car at idle mode, such no that bising lo... Juz say when u r on ur driving, the sound get louder and louder & can heard even from inside the cabin... Then sure they need to tukar for u... My one, no sound also change... I simply say engine bising skit, tolong check,,, then they also simply tukar... By the way, they r not changing the whole iafm, they now only change small part of it... So won't take too long, around 2-3hours can kao tim liao...
*
Ohh....really? If they change the small parts also need 2-3 hours, if they change the whole set it will take them 4-5 hours? Such a complicated item.

This post has been edited by klk89: Sep 28 2010, 10:40 PM

2 Pages  1 2 >Top
Topic ClosedOptions
 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.0451sec    0.40    7 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 1st December 2025 - 07:57 PM