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TScyanide
post Apr 1 2010, 04:23 PM, updated 16y ago

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Anyone here got the latest qoutation of grille ah?

e.g. : mild steel with paint : RM ?? / sq ft?
mild steel with powder coat: RM ?? / sq ft
Aluminium : RM ?? / sq ft?


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Added on April 2, 2010, 9:46 amno one ????

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post Apr 2 2010, 11:21 AM

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what's the different between mild steel and wrought iron? i dunno about price/sqft..
i'm currently looking around for grille quotation, so far for a 2-storey intermediate house cheapest is 3k wrought iron + hollow steel
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post Apr 2 2010, 02:07 PM

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wrought iron is stronger and normally more expensive.
mild steel is those normal material, or ... shall i said just steel?
hollow meant its not solid, got hole in the middle.

I think judging by type of house is not really accurate. Better with per sq ft. even for intermediate DSL, the total area need the grille could be different if there's big windows vs small windows.
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post Apr 2 2010, 02:50 PM

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Mine just finish install w/iron full house = RM7100..
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post Apr 2 2010, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(aslahuddin @ Apr 2 2010, 02:50 PM)
Mine just finish install w/iron full house = RM7100..
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wow, 7100 shakehead.gif

yours DSL or ???

do you know the price per sq ft?
or ... roughly how big is the total area?

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post Apr 2 2010, 07:10 PM

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I did my house:
1x French Window 2 panels
1x Sliding Door 3 panels
1x Sliding Window 2 panels
1x Casement Window 3 panels

Came up to RM1800 for painted mild steel.

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post Apr 2 2010, 08:25 PM

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wow. rm7.1k for grills. i didnt expect that much
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post Apr 2 2010, 09:18 PM

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just to confirm, do we need to get local authority consent/approval to install grille?
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post Apr 2 2010, 09:54 PM

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no need permit for gille..
market price rm 13.00 per sqft wrought iron.

good luck....RM7100....is not unusual because new house alot of windows and sliding door...

Glass homes are nice till you find out how much grille can cost you!!
If you are having a end lot or corner unit then....good luck....
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post Apr 2 2010, 11:13 PM

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hi, simplicio,

thanks for the indication of market price for wrought iron.

how about others? do u know their market rate?

thanks!
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post Apr 3 2010, 01:47 AM

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sometimes i feel sad that we cant have houses without the grilles........ sad.gif its actually kindda nice.......but sure kene pecah one.....i think if there's no grille, the house needs to be equipped with hefty security systems like laser sensors, ADT centralize security, CCTV or even a guard! nothings cheap sad.gif the police should ronda2 the housing areas everynite sad.gif and thiefs + robbers should be feed to the sharks vmad.gif
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post Apr 3 2010, 06:23 AM

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sometimes i feel sad that we cant have houses without the grilles- can be done.- stay in gated community i mean the 2 million SP Setia/Sunway above one. not the 600k to 800k link type like Lake Edge.
u can leave ur barang all day outside ur house no one will steal

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post Apr 3 2010, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(cyanide @ Apr 2 2010, 03:07 PM)
wrought iron is stronger and normally more expensive.
mild steel is those normal material, or ... shall i said just steel?
hollow meant its not solid, got hole in the middle.

I think judging by type of house is not really accurate. Better with per sq ft. even for intermediate DSL, the total area need the grille could be different if there's big windows vs small windows.
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wrought Iron nowadays is just mildsteel that went extra hamemring to give its texture.. (how I know? cause I`m selling it maa)

carbon steel is divided into 3 types...
low, medium & high

we normally use low one... or term as mild steel or M.S

medium / high is used for shaft, gear etc very hard n heavy

the price of wrought iron depends on complexity of the design...

and the price also depends on what paint and how many coating they use....

I propose you ask all this detail
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post Apr 5 2010, 09:11 AM

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Hi, Awakened_Angel,

mind to indicate the per sq ft pricing of :-
mild steel with powder coating finish? Simple design as those horizontal bar ... prefer white in color

aluminium? white color available? what bout price?

Thanks!!!!!!!!
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post Apr 5 2010, 10:24 AM

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I cant... as i`m selling raw material to fabricator.. and the price depends on their workmanship and skill....
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post Apr 5 2010, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(Awakened_Angel @ Apr 5 2010, 10:24 AM)
I cant... as i`m selling raw material to fabricator.. and the price depends on their workmanship and skill....
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how about average or range of their pricing?
i think you should able to indicate blink.gif
thanks ya...
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post Apr 5 2010, 01:40 PM

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I have material of wide range of size and grade... the fabricator might selecct cheapest grade and quote you the cheapest price... your grille rust in 2 months time, the colour fade in 3 months time.. it`ll come out if people bang on it


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QUOTE(cyanide @ Apr 5 2010, 02:39 PM)
how about average or range of their pricing?
i think you should able to indicate  blink.gif
thanks ya...
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Rm 10-15...

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post Apr 5 2010, 04:39 PM

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post Apr 6 2010, 03:10 PM

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M.S Grills RM6, wrought Iron RM10

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post Apr 6 2010, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(cutielove @ Apr 6 2010, 03:10 PM)
M.S Grills RM6, wrought Iron RM10
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wow... RM10 /sq ft for wrought iron? quite cheap.
last i heard its about RM15. Where's the location? KL?

M.S. Grills of RM6 is it normal paint?
how about powder coating?
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post Apr 6 2010, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(cyanide @ Apr 2 2010, 05:06 PM)
wow, 7100 shakehead.gif

yours DSL or ???

do you know the price per sq ft?
or ... roughly how big is the total area?
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yeah, mine is corner double storey house..
total area is around 3000++sqft..
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post Apr 7 2010, 01:41 PM

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where can i find a grill shop in old klang road?
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post Apr 7 2010, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(cyanide @ Apr 6 2010, 04:56 PM)
wow... RM10 /sq ft for wrought iron? quite cheap.
last i heard its about RM15. Where's the location? KL?

M.S. Grills of RM6 is it normal paint?
how about powder coating?
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i saw it at 1k classified..gonna try to call them & ask 1st.
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QUOTE(cutielove @ Apr 7 2010, 01:49 PM)
i saw it at 1k classified..gonna try to call them & ask 1st.
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wrought iron RM 10 ? mind to share the contact ? do pm meplease....

tq... btw had checked with my enginering guys they say wrought iron is actually mild steel .. just that it has been fabricated into design. is that true ?
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post Apr 7 2010, 04:10 PM

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i think nowaday a lot of "fake" wrought iron.
BTW, i also not fancy those design. i like those simple horizontal bar.
so, i rather opt for those mild steel with powder-coating if price is right.
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post Apr 7 2010, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(cyanide @ Apr 7 2010, 04:10 PM)
i think nowaday a lot of "fake" wrought iron.
BTW, i also not fancy those design. i like those simple horizontal bar.
so, i rather opt for those mild steel with powder-coating if price is right.
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that is what i thought too.. mild steel is good enough esp for condo and 17th floor... good luck if they want to steal...
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post Apr 7 2010, 04:25 PM

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oic...so wrought iron is the same as ms ahh...coz i also dunno about grill...1st time search..
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post Apr 7 2010, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(cyanide @ Apr 7 2010, 05:10 PM)
i think nowaday a lot of "fake" wrought iron.
BTW, i also not fancy those design. i like those simple horizontal bar.
so, i rather opt for those mild steel with powder-coating if price is right.
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frankly, there are no fake wrought iron.. iron and steel are still the same hundred years ago... it is the selection of thinnest and smallest and lowest grade of material by contractor and poor workmanship.... smile.gif
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QUOTE(Awakened_Angel @ Apr 7 2010, 05:05 PM)
frankly, there are no fake wrought iron.. iron and steel are still the same hundred years ago... it is the selection of thinnest and smallest and lowest grade of material by contractor and poor workmanship....  smile.gif
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post Apr 7 2010, 05:50 PM

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oh... got it liao

so, most of time WI expensive is just becoz its solid compare to those hollow MS.

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post Apr 7 2010, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(cyanide @ Apr 7 2010, 06:50 PM)
oh... got it liao

so, most of time WI expensive is just becoz its solid compare to those hollow MS.

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Added on April 7, 2010, 5:53 pmwrought iron is more exp because it went through a process called hammerting to give its texture... both Wi and MS have hollow and solid section

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post Apr 8 2010, 09:15 AM

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ops... ok ok...
there's options ... paiseh...


How about aluminium grill?
looks neat. is it strong enough?

And, nowaday a lot of grill design is those simple horizontal bar (which i also like this design), is it easy for theft to "jack" using those jack from lift up car one???
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post Apr 8 2010, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(cyanide @ Apr 8 2010, 10:15 AM)
ops... ok ok...
there's options ... paiseh...
How about aluminium grill?
looks neat. is it strong enough?


MS is the material... wrought iron used to be a material itself... But due to constant price hike, some ppl result to utilise MS to hammer and become wrought iron.. there`re many type of wrought iron.... hammering, TWISTING, TIGERSKIN ETC

alumnium is lighter and softer.. plus price for scrap al has increase.. many thieft ops for alu instead of metal nowadays


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And, nowaday a lot of grill design is those simple horizontal bar (which i also like this design), is it easy for theft to "jack" using those jack from lift up car one???
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it is ok.. FYI, ther are few thickness.... 1.0, 1.2,1.6 &1.9mm for the hollow section.. both MS and WI

many will choose 1.0mm one./... else, you request 1.2/1.6 mm

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post Apr 8 2010, 10:57 AM

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Is powder coating more lasting and have more resistance to rust?
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post Apr 8 2010, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(JimJimKC @ Apr 8 2010, 11:57 AM)
Is powder coating more lasting and have more resistance to rust?
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yes.. but not much if they didnt apply anti oxide primer eg galvanised
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post Apr 8 2010, 11:31 AM

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A_angel,

Thanks!

Ok. so... 1.2mm is strong enough?
i know, thicker sure better... biggrin.gif solid lagi best. But $$$ got concern.

for powder coating, can ask to apply oxide primer also?
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QUOTE(cyanide @ Apr 8 2010, 12:31 PM)
A_angel,

Thanks!

Ok. so... 1.2mm is strong enough?
i know, thicker sure better... biggrin.gif  solid lagi best. But $$$ got concern.

for powder coating, can ask to apply oxide primer also?
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it depends what you use and your gille size

if its main gate, say 14-15ft, 1.2 is okok .. best 1.6 laa

if you want stronger for window, also ok..

another aspect also very crucial.. its the connection of grille and wall

good luck
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post Apr 8 2010, 02:18 PM

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connection of grille to wall?

can elaborate some details?

my old house is those wooden window frame, they just nail it onto the wooden frame.
now will aluminuim window, i think it need to fix in on the concrete wall
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post Apr 8 2010, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(cyanide @ Apr 8 2010, 03:18 PM)
connection of grille to wall?

can elaborate some details?

my old house is those wooden window frame, they just nail it onto the wooden frame.
now will aluminuim window, i think it need to fix in on the concrete wall
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http://img.alibaba.com/photo/244940929/SL_...ANCHOR.summ.jpg

THIS IS THE BEST LAA.. SLEEVE ANCHOR

SOME JUST USE CONCRETENAIL
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post Apr 8 2010, 05:25 PM

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ok. thanks!

but from the photo, looks like not much different compare to nail.

easy to elaborate a bit? or its too complicated.

sorry... kacau u so many times
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Some contractor also called it a "wall plug"...if u want to attach/secure anything to a concrete/cement wall,u need to use this...
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post Apr 8 2010, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(cyanide @ Apr 8 2010, 06:25 PM)
ok. thanks!

but from the photo, looks like not much different compare to nail.

easy to elaborate a bit? or its too complicated.

sorry... kacau u so many times
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this will expand when you fasten it... nail wont
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post Apr 21 2010, 11:28 PM

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Hi, Awaken_Angel,

I just qouted for:-
Window grills : ~ 350 sq ft (11-12 pcs of windows)
Door gate: ~56 sq ft
Material: MS 1.2mm
Finishing: Powder coating (white)

RM4800, is this reasonable??
Thanks!!! for your helpful ...
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QUOTE(darylchan @ Apr 2 2010, 07:10 PM)
I did my house:
1x French Window 2 panels
1x Sliding Door 3 panels
1x Sliding Window 2 panels
1x Casement Window 3 panels

Came up to RM1800 for painted mild steel.
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Hi Daryl,

Mind pm me the contact for the grill guy pls? Thanks a lot. smile.gif
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QUOTE(peace_09 @ Apr 26 2010, 10:01 AM)
Hi Daryl,

Mind pm me the contact for the grill guy pls? Thanks a lot. smile.gif
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Hi,

please pm me too... TQ.
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post May 8 2010, 10:22 PM

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Happen to come across this somewhere recently
Price RM/ sg ft

MS Door - RM 10
MS Window - RM 7
Wrought iron Door - RM 18
Wrought Iron Window - RM 11

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The best quote I had received recently to share:

To supply and install

1. Two unit of grille window 580 x 1200mm RM 200.00
2. Three unit of grille window 1760 x 1160mm RM 850.00
3. Two unit of grille window 1070 x 550mm RM 163.00
4. One unit of grille window 2350 x 1740mm RM 567.00
5. Two unit of grille panels 570 x 1770mm RM 280.00
6. One unit of double leaf door 1210 x 2090mm RM 600.00
7. One unit of double leaf door 1770 x 2690mm RM 720.00
8. Replace anchor frame for 10 nos of grille window RM 350.00


Mild Steel: 20mmx 20mm x 1.2mm hollow section fabricate to horizontal design at ±4 ½” gap c/w one coated of antirust and two coat paint

Mild Steel: 12mm square bar (solid, not hollow) fabricate to horizontal design at ±4 ½” gap c/w one coated of antirust and two coat paint at locations (2) and (5) at an additional of 45% of the listed price.

There's a lot of misconception being spread by the sales ppl. The best is to go to the factory / workshop and engage the owners. Take the effort to go to these workshops.

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i think most of the terace would have max 350 to 400 sqft. normally for a horizontal powder coating, market price should be around RM11 and doors around RM16

if mild besi, deduct RM4 or 5

so, in your scenario = 350 X 11 =RM3850
Door = 56 * 16 = RM896
Total = RM4746

I would say the price is around that range

QUOTE(cyanide @ Apr 21 2010, 11:28 PM)
Hi, Awaken_Angel,

I just qouted for:-
Window grills : ~ 350 sq ft (11-12 pcs of windows)
Door gate: ~56 sq ft
Material: MS 1.2mm
Finishing: Powder coating (white)

RM4800, is this reasonable??
Thanks!!! for your helpful ...
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QUOTE(tyhuang @ May 10 2010, 11:39 AM)
i think most of the terace would have max 350 to 400 sqft. normally for a horizontal powder coating, market price should be around RM11 and doors around RM16

if mild besi, deduct RM4 or 5

so, in your scenario = 350 X 11 =RM3850
Door = 56 * 16 = RM896
Total = RM4746

I would say the price is around that range
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Hi, tyhuang,

Thanks!

BTW, what do you mean by "if mild besi, deduct RM4 or 5" ???



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I think he meant if for mild steel window, it will be RM11 - 4 = RM7 &
for door will be RM 16 - 5 = RM11 biggrin.gif
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I just received quotation for grill from one of my contractor
windows
129 sqf
doors
152 sqf
material: ms steel

quotation 1) rm3853.7
1.0mm - 20mm * 20mm, 3" gap
quotation 2) rm4229
1.2mm - 25mm * 10mm, 3 1/2 " gap

hollow ms i guess ... knock it can hear kong kong kong sound
not powder coated

update:
windows = 137 sqf
doors = 173 sqf
1.2mm type = rm4914
powder coating = +rm1099

is the price okay?
thanks


Added on May 18, 2010, 8:51 pmi've got another quote from different contractor,
he's offering rm3850 for mentioned sf
but using
0.5" * 1.5" with gap of 6"
1.2mm also ...

which is better? I heard bigger gap costs more ....
if gap 3" or 3.5" or 6" which 1 is more recommend ?

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Hi, I'm planning to grill my new house at Semenyih, I'm still looking for a good contractor with reasonable price to do the grill for the whole house. Can you guys recommend any contractor nearby kajang or semenyih. Planning to get their quotation first then make comparison with the contractor that my brother in law recommend me. If the price is rights and the quality is good, then I will install it maybe on next 3-4 weeks.
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i also looking for wrought iron grille door for condo.

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googling for suppliers ard sel/kl but most of the designs not very nice.
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i have 1 contractor base in kajang got own factory for grill. interested?
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QUOTE(nuclearbom @ Jun 19 2010, 08:56 PM)
i have 1 contractor base in kajang got own factory for grill. interested?
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If the price is right and the workmanship is good, I will get them to do my grill.
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Speaking of grilles, I've been told by one contractor that having "angle bar" would be more secure compared to just mounting the grilles directly. How true is that?

Would 0.8mm thickness MS grille be sufficient enough? I was quoted RM 8 psf for that.
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Has anyone used the 'Invisible Grill' rather than the normal one ? This invisible Grill is pretty neat especially if you want to put up a full heigh grill at the balcony of your condo.. I'm just wondering about its durability...anyone ?
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my house grille samples...main door & kitchen door...

was quote total RM2700 for all, forgot d size:-

main door x1
sliding door x1
kitchen door x1
windows x14
toilet window x2

normal finishing white paint....

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Any recommend reliable grill contractor around puchong/shahalam area?

Thanks.
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QUOTE(DFMao @ Jul 27 2010, 02:12 PM)
Hi,
Any recommend reliable grill contractor around puchong/shahalam area?

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Hi guys,

If anyone need quotes on grilles just pm me. I have my own factory located in shah alam. I usually service areas around klang, shah alam, subang, pj, damansara, KL etc.

Many customers have already engage my services from the internet.

Samples of my work can be found at www.steeltech.50megs.com

Email me at steeltech75@gmail.com

Cheers.


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get someone that is recon to you.....
dont simply get it from those in newspaper or publication.
Once they did the grill. you cant reject any more even due to poor quality.
a lot of beginner trying to do grill becoz it is good money and easy to cheat people as well.
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Yes sure. you may PM me the contact number and location.
If the price is right and the workmanship is good, I will get them to do my grill.
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Guys. Please PM me the Windows Frame and Wrought Iron grill contacts.

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Is anyone know the latest quote price for mild-steel powder coated door and window grilles? And someone with good workmanship to recommend to me?
Planning to do grilles for my new house, about 500 sq-ft for windows and 300 sq-ft for doors.

Thanks in advance.....
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for iron works please contact Yong Wang Iron Works & Trading
Tel: +603 3191 5133
Mobile: +60 16 205 0402
Mr Ang

done my double storey house window and door grill, good workmanship and excellent customer service.
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how much do they charge per sqft ?
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please check your pm, cheers
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any one know house much stainless steel door cost? for grade ss304 and ss316. Thanks
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QUOTE(maxguy @ Feb 14 2011, 08:35 PM)
for iron works please contact Yong Wang Iron Works & Trading
Tel: +603 3191 5133
Mobile: +60 16 205 0402
Mr Ang

done my double storey house window and door grill, good workmanship and excellent customer service.
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Thanks for the info. Could you please PM me the price too? In psf...thanks
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Naing,

You might want to consider them too.....


THREE KIM METAL WORKS
NO.18,JLN SC 5/D,
PUSAT PERINDUSTRIAN SUNGAI CHUA,
43000 KAJANG,SELANGOR.
TEL / FAX : 03 - 8734 3978
H/P : 012 - 214 9382
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001530520649

Mild Steel c/w Powder Coatings = RM 10.50 per sg/ft.

Their service is really pro and did their best to serve their customer well. You can mention my name; Andrew to try your luck for best price.

QUOTE(naing @ Feb 14 2011, 11:23 PM)
Thanks for the info. Could you please PM me the price too? In psf...thanks
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instead of Mild Steel + Powder coating compare with Aluminium Grille, which one is better. Of course, aluminium will not rust compare with Mild Steel even with powder coating. but in term of safety and security which one more wise?
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QUOTE(andrewektai @ Feb 15 2011, 02:34 AM)
Naing,

You might want to consider them too.....

   
THREE KIM METAL WORKS 
NO.18,JLN SC 5/D, 
PUSAT PERINDUSTRIAN SUNGAI CHUA,   
43000 KAJANG,SELANGOR. 
TEL / FAX : 03 - 8734 3978 
H/P : 012 - 214 9382 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001530520649
   
Mild Steel c/w Powder Coatings = RM 10.50 per sg/ft.

Their service is really pro and did their best to serve their customer well. You can mention my name; Andrew to try your luck for best price.
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I vouch the same...i'm one of their 'another' happy customer..i'm using galvanised folding gate.
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QUOTE(aerozs @ Feb 17 2011, 10:13 PM)
instead of Mild Steel + Powder coating compare with Aluminium Grille, which one is better. Of course, aluminium will not rust compare with Mild Steel even with powder coating. but in term of safety and security which one more wise?
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Yes of course aluminum is always better but it cost more and aluminum is soft and the solution to this is to insert round steel bar inside the hollow section of the aluminum to add additional strength to it. Mild Steel or aluminum or stainless steel, if somebody targeted your house and intend to broke in what ever steel also no use.
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anybody can recommend me contractor grill around penang island?
i want to do the cage grill.. i live at jelutong. thanks!
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pls PM me the cost also, thanks.
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QUOTE(ivyrainy @ Feb 28 2011, 01:01 PM)
pls PM me the cost also, thanks.
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As per request pm-ed.......
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Can someone quote me the price of Wrought Iron grill for 4ft x 2ft window? i have around 25 windows. Thanks!
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QUOTE(andrewektai @ Feb 15 2011, 02:34 AM)
Naing,

You might want to consider them too.....

   
THREE KIM METAL WORKS 
NO.18,JLN SC 5/D, 
PUSAT PERINDUSTRIAN SUNGAI CHUA,   
43000 KAJANG,SELANGOR. 
TEL / FAX : 03 - 8734 3978 
H/P : 012 - 214 9382 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001530520649
   
Mild Steel c/w Powder Coatings = RM 10.50 per sg/ft.

Their service is really pro and did their best to serve their customer well. You can mention my name; Andrew to try your luck for best price.
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Apparently Kenment (Three Kim) has a FB page full of grills photos for reference..
URL Ref:
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001530520649
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QUOTE(maxguy @ Feb 14 2011, 08:35 PM)
for iron works please contact Yong Wang Iron Works & Trading
Tel: +603 3191 5133
Mobile: +60 16 205 0402
Mr Ang

done my double storey house window and door grill, good workmanship and excellent customer service.
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Hi maxguy,

could you please PM me the price and the shop location as well?

Thanks a lot!
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Hi maxguy,

could you please PM me the price and the shop location as well?

Thanks a lot!
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Hi!

Pls PM me price and location as well?. TQ.
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I did my house:
1x French Window 2 panels
1x Sliding Door 3 panels
1x Sliding Window 2 panels
1x Casement Window 3 panels

Came up to RM1800 for painted mild steel.
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PM me as well. Tq.
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me too

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Need somebody to do my house grille in Kota Kemuning. Anyone interested can pm me or call 0122125108. Thanks.
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What the price for a 13 feet gate per foot run base on Stainless Steel and Wrought Iron?

* Please PM me if price cant publish

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QUOTE(maxguy @ Feb 14 2011, 08:35 PM)
for iron works please contact Yong Wang Iron Works & Trading
Tel: +603 3191 5133
Mobile: +60 16 205 0402
Mr Ang

done my double storey house window and door grill, good workmanship and excellent customer service.
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may i know how much do they charge per sq feet?
Its c/w anti oxide primer and 2 time powder coated?
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for comparison wise, do pay a visit to this Three Kim FB..

QUOTE(andrewektai @ Feb 15 2011, 02:34 AM)
Naing,

You might want to consider them too.....

   
THREE KIM METAL WORKS 
NO.18,JLN SC 5/D, 
PUSAT PERINDUSTRIAN SUNGAI CHUA,   
43000 KAJANG,SELANGOR. 
TEL / FAX : 03 - 8734 3978 
H/P : 012 - 214 9382 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001530520649
   
Mild Steel c/w Powder Coatings = RM 10.50 per sg/ft.

Their service is really pro and did their best to serve their customer well. You can mention my name; Andrew to try your luck for best price.
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I vouch the same...i'm one of their 'another' happy customer..i'm using galvanised folding gate.
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Any good contractor doing grille in Puchong? I need it for my condo...

Please PM me the contact if you have any..

Thank you.
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Already made appointment with THREE KIM METAL WORKS tomorrow...Hope can get a good price....


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QUOTE(edwardsiow @ Apr 8 2011, 09:26 PM)
Already made appointment with THREE KIM METAL WORKS tomorrow...Hope can get a good price....
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Where is your hse? THREE KIM METAL WORKS got do grille for Puchong area?
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QUOTE(edwardsiow @ Apr 8 2011, 09:26 PM)
Already made appointment with THREE KIM METAL WORKS tomorrow...Hope can get a good price....
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Please post the price if could, so that we could estimate and compared.


zie86,
Kajang and Puchong is not too far, and should not be problem for them too...except business is TOOOOOO good till can't handle. Just call and sure can want.


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I already contact Yong Wang Iron Works & Trading just for asking the price...

not cheap...

Normal paint MS grill
window - RM9
door - RM15

Power-coated MS grill
window - RM12
door - RM18

they said, if whole house, they will give a lump sum price..but i doubt they will give more than 10%..

my house at serdang..even serdang i can get RM9 - 10% = RM8.1 for normal painted MS grill..

now try THREE KIM METAL WORKS...see can cheaper or not...if like the member said, power-coated RM10.50, i feel not bad...



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QUOTE(edwardsiow @ Apr 9 2011, 09:45 AM)
I already contact Yong Wang Iron Works & Trading just for asking the price...

not cheap...

Normal paint MS grill
window - RM9
door - RM15

Power-coated MS grill
window - RM12
door - RM18

they said, if whole house, they will give a lump sum price..but i doubt they will give more than 10%..

my house at serdang..even serdang i can get RM9 - 10% = RM8.1 for normal painted MS grill..

now try THREE KIM METAL WORKS...see can cheaper or not...if like the member said, power-coated RM10.50, i feel not bad...
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Anyone get quotation or previously dealing with Pioneer Iron Trading, Bandar Kinrara (www.awning.com.my) for grille before? I just got the quotation from them. The price seems reasonable as compared to my other neighbors grille prices. But, it might not be the cheapest I believe! Looking for quality, hehe...

Any feedback about them?

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Anyone get quotation or previously dealing with Pioneer Iron Trading, Bandar Kinrara (www.awning.com.my) for grille before? I just got the quotation from them. The price seems reasonable as compared to my other neighbors grille prices. But, it might not be the cheapest I believe! Looking for quality, hehe...

Any feedback about them?
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whats the price ?

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whats the price ?
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8Ft x 4.5 Ft door for RM520. Cheap?
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8Ft x 4.5 Ft door for RM520. Cheap?
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For MS and normal paint with white color rectangular bar, it's about RM 10 psf. For your door, it should be less than RM 400. But for wrought iron and nice design, your price is reasonable.
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Appointment with THREE KIM METAL WORKS last Saturday postponed...will arrange with them this few days....

For your information, I found a factory at Balakong selling stainless Steel folding gate 15 feet including small door and installation with two rows of "flowers" (flowers design can be choosen) just RM4200...

I like those design that include aluminum wood...If I can't get a good price, I will take that one...so far, RM4200 can consider cheap..

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Rm4200 is not cheap at all........that's the market price for an establish shop....u can get less than 3k if you check around those malay SME business..i did mine less than tat.


QUOTE(edwardsiow @ Apr 12 2011, 01:40 PM)

For your information, I found a factory at Balakong selling stainless Steel folding gate 15 feet including small door and installation with two rows of "flowers" (flowers design can be choosen) just RM4200...

I like those design that include aluminum wood...If I can't get a good price, I will take that one...so far, RM4200 can consider cheap..
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QUOTE(tyhuang @ Apr 12 2011, 02:18 PM)
Rm4200 is not cheap at all........that's the market price for an establish shop....u can get less than 3k if you check around those malay SME business..i did mine less than tat.
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If same spec and can get less than 3K, i will very excited...a lot of details need to compare....like design, diameter of steel bars used, how many feets, folding or swinging, small doors or not, etc..

if you don't mind, pm me the contact number...i go to compare myself...i already ask a lot of shops, so far RM4200 is cheapest..i don't mind to ask more...but don't tell me is few years ago price....zzz

thanks

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QUOTE(tyhuang @ Apr 12 2011, 02:18 PM)
Rm4200 is not cheap at all........that's the market price for an establish shop....u can get less than 3k if you check around those malay SME business..i did mine less than tat.
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I guess 280 per feet are the market price for 304 or something like that, if china type than is cheaper but it will be gone or colour change after few years lol...

I also hear they not even could reconized which is 304 or CHina make except from proper source lol


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QUOTE(Jo_da48 @ Apr 12 2011, 02:35 PM)
I guess 280 per feet are the market price for 304 or something like that, if china type than is cheaper but it will be gone or colour change after few years lol...

I also hear they not even could reconized which is 304 or CHina make except from proper source lol
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RM280 per feet for 304 stainless steel + small door + folding type...if same spec and same design, price less than 3K, i will straight away buy without think..

hope tyhuang can provide me contact number...I am headache now because not enough budget...want to save more...

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QUOTE(edwardsiow @ Apr 12 2011, 02:39 PM)
RM280 per feet for 304 stainless steel + small door + folding type...if same spec and same design, price less than 3K, i will straight away buy without think..

hope tyhuang can provide me contact number...I am headache now because not enough budget...want to save more...
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WIth your 15Feet requirement, I guess you need to find people give you stainless steel with 200 per feet ...not 280. (3K/15=200)... flex.gif I also want lol, as I'm hunting for folding door too.
Initially was thinking to take Grill.MY, but since have to pay full amount plus only 3 months later, didn't want to take the risk...

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QUOTE(Jo_da48 @ Apr 12 2011, 04:01 PM)
WIth your 15Feet requirement, I guess you need to find people give you stainless steel with 200 per feet ...not 280. (3K/15=200)... flex.gif  I also want lol, as I'm hunting for folding door too.
Initially was thinking to take Grill.MY, but since have to pay full amount plus only 3 months later, didn't want to take the risk...
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Grill.MY price per feet for stainless steel gate how much? should be more than RM280, right?

I like those design with aluminum wood and glass, but RM360 per feet....15 feet + small door + folding type need more than RM5500....pengsan...love it but no money...suffering...


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this design of grille nice? "S" style...nice if looking from outside...headache...don't know want to take this design or not..

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QUOTE(edwardsiow @ Apr 12 2011, 04:09 PM)
Grill.MY price per feet for stainless steel gate how much? should be more than RM280, right?

I like those design with aluminum wood and glass, but RM360 per feet....15 feet + small door + folding type need more than RM5500....pengsan...love it but no money...suffering...
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5800 included AutoGate system lal

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5800 included AutoGate system lal
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Can you write down more details about your package?


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Can you write down more details about your package?
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ooh...wrought iron gate....not bad...
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hi guys...for the gate, the job done from a bumi Sme , the office in sentosa , klang..i forget the name ady..the contact number u can call is 014-6485648 ....i forgot the name..mayb u can give him my reference that im from setia alam just installed the gate....

i can 100% tell u tat those ppl charge u Rm250 above per sqft is defintely overcharging u based on the market rate...

u try to call this fella first, then let him advice you and explain to u only u compare......


Added on April 13, 2011, 12:24 pmforgot to add, tat guy did mention bout the diameter of the steel bar , but i forgot, but defintely is the standard 1...u can get his shop address and go compare it...
thanks


Added on April 13, 2011, 12:25 pmand i wil post my gate picture tomolo


Added on April 13, 2011, 12:30 pmjust to clarify something, my gate is actually made from the normal besi with the most standard thickness and with the stainless steel railing..
then after finish designing n burn the besi, they will send it to galvanize , after tat, they will sent it to powder coat...



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QUOTE(tyhuang @ Apr 13 2011, 12:22 PM)
hi guys...for the gate, the job done from a bumi Sme , the office in sentosa , klang..i forget the name ady..the contact number u can call is 014-6485648 ....i forgot the name..mayb u can give him my reference that im from setia alam just installed the gate....

i can 100% tell u tat those ppl charge u Rm250 above per sqft is defintely overcharging u based on the market rate...

u try to call this fella first, then let him advice you and explain to u only u compare......


Added on April 13, 2011, 12:24 pmforgot to add, tat guy did mention bout the diameter of the steel bar , but i forgot, but defintely is the standard 1...u can get his shop address and go compare it...
thanks


Added on April 13, 2011, 12:25 pmand i wil post my gate picture tomolo


Added on April 13, 2011, 12:30 pmjust to clarify something, my gate is actually made from the normal besi with the most standard thickness and with the stainless steel railing..
then after finish designing n burn the besi, they will send it to galvanize , after tat, they will sent it to powder coat...
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thanks tyhuang...I will call and make appointment with them...maybe this saturday....although is far from my location, I am willing to ask more to get more info and prices....

I hope it is not a misunderstanding....STAINLESS STEEL different with MILD STEEL...What I said is WHOLE gate STAINLESS STEEL....


Added on April 13, 2011, 3:11 pmAlready called 014-6485648...

"Pintu Stainless Steel 15 kaki folding type termasuk pintu kecil dan pemasangan dengan dua baris bunga ialah RM5700"....

speechless...

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my bad....i misread ur stainless steel....if stainless u canot ask him coz he not doing it...he give other ppl do....tat's y more expensive coz i got ask him b4...mine is the normal steel wit ppowder coat...sorry for the misunderstanding .... smile.gif
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QUOTE(tyhuang @ Apr 13 2011, 03:14 PM)
my bad....i misread ur stainless steel....if stainless u canot ask him coz he not doing it...he give other ppl do....tat's y more expensive coz i got ask him b4...mine is the normal steel wit ppowder coat...sorry for the misunderstanding .... smile.gif
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never mind....

I like the gate below but too expensive...
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he do gate only?, he got do grille for window?
i'm live in Klang, near to find him...his workmanship ok? TQ
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what about invisible grill brand?
i saw it at houzdepot today... using high tensile wires.. but i think still can be cut... hmm.gif
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Just check on a shop a Puchong, wrought iron RM200 pfr for gate, additinal 500 if putting additional level to protect & last longer (he give me a name but I cant remember) ...
Grill for RM 14...

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he did the window grille oso of coz...but mine was done by a company called NewGate coz tat time is till dunno this guy...if i know earlier, sure it will b cheaper.

for this guy, based on the gate he install, actually he miscalculate the gate height by 1/2 inch - 1 inch.

if u look at the first photo below, on the left side, the gate abit shorter than the wall, even though abit angry but i still accept it lar cozjust minimal error and mainly i didnt really follow up wif him coz bz working...but if possible, when u engage him, u need to follow up coz when he built the frame and he will take this gate to test it in our house then only send to galvanize n coating...

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tyhuang,

he do gate only?, he got do grille for window?
i'm live in Klang, near to find him...his workmanship ok? TQ
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Added on April 14, 2011, 9:43 ami read somewhere invisible grille is mainly for condo...i think not practical for landed....i guess the best would be no grille at all....but u know lar..asian ppl, every1 oso scare... smile.gif

QUOTE(fieznur81 @ Apr 13 2011, 07:34 PM)
what about invisible grill brand?
i saw  it at houzdepot today... using high tensile wires.. but i think still can be cut... hmm.gif
no picture though... unsure.gif
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QUOTE(Jo_da48 @ Apr 13 2011, 07:44 PM)
Just check on a shop a Puchong, wrought iron RM200 pfr for gate, additinal 500 if putting additional level to protect & last longer (he give me a name but I cant remember) ...
Grill for RM 14...
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hi, mind sharing the contact? where about at puchong?
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Tel: 8060 2011 / 012 215 9239 Paul Sing

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how many emergency exit is needed for a condo unit and normally put where? yard or master room?
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QUOTE(lck*G9 @ Apr 14 2011, 10:15 AM)
hi, mind sharing the contact? where about at puchong?
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Had you call? ANy good?

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QUOTE(edwardsiow @ Apr 12 2011, 04:14 PM)
this design of grille nice? "S" style...nice if looking from outside...headache...don't know want to take this design or not..

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nice.. how do they design it? using paint only?
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Had you call? ANy good?
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i haven't call yet but will call soon... just a little too busy with work. thanks btw
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QUOTE(12FX @ Apr 26 2011, 04:29 PM)
nice.. how do they design it? using paint only?
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Already asked..this design expensive..don't have much budget on it....

Paint, Galvanise, Power-coated also got..
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What it the price difference between hollow and solid WI and MS grille? Seldom I get people quating the solid one why?

Anyone mind to share pictures of WI and MS because I can't tell but just have to take it when the quoter say this is WI or MS. Can it tell by appearance?

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QUOTE(escargo75 @ May 1 2011, 11:36 PM)
What it the price difference between hollow and solid WI and MS grille? Seldom I get people quating the solid one why?

Anyone mind to share pictures of WI and MS because I can't tell but just have to take it when the quoter say this is WI or MS. Can it tell by appearance?

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dig back on my previous explanation....

Wrought Iron is another type of metal.. but due to escalating cost, people do not user WI, but take MS and hammered into textured shape...

as time goes by, people still call WI when they see textured MS
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QUOTE(Awakened_Angel @ May 1 2011, 11:47 PM)
dig back on my previous explanation....

Wrought Iron is another type of metal.. but due to escalating cost, people do not user WI, but take MS and hammered into textured shape...

as time goes by, people still call WI when they see textured MS
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You mean there is not real WI in the market right now, all are MS?

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QUOTE(escargo75 @ May 1 2011, 11:58 PM)
You mean there is not real WI in the market right now, all are MS?
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I wont say ALL, but mostly....
last time, when real wrought iron are forged by cast it into moulds into a panel shape
like in the pic
http://images.artfinding.com/lot/_203/seve...72233075759.jpg

but it is darn expensive to cast a shape like the pic...

it all depends on you(as owner)

what do you want?

textured shape? finishing? powder coat? antique? coloured?

in the end, it is the colour paint & protection paint that dictates its service life.

P/S many fabricator will ask you to go for powder coat... why? save their time in painting. painting wrought iron is a tedious job...

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QUOTE(Awakened_Angel @ May 2 2011, 04:37 PM)
I wont say ALL, but mostly....
last time, when real wrought iron are forged by cast it into moulds into a panel shape
like in the pic
http://images.artfinding.com/lot/_203/seve...72233075759.jpg

but it is darn expensive to cast a shape like the pic...

it all depends on you(as owner)

what do you want?

textured shape? finishing? powder coat? antique? coloured?

in the end, it is the colour paint & protection paint that dictates its service life.

P/S many fabricator will ask you to go for powder coat... why? save their time in painting. painting wrought iron is a tedious job...
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Hi Awakened Angel, thanks for the sharing...Yeah the WI outside don't look like the pic that you shown. So when they said it is WI mean just by the name not really the material...But powder coat should have better rust protection than painting right?

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Anybody use Yat Sing Wrought Iron Work in Sg Buloh? Hows their work? I booked them during Perfect Living. Today he came to take measurement and said it need 3 weeks to do as they have a lot of order during the Perfect Living. I do one 13 ft wrought iron gate with auto motor, whole house 22x75 windows mild steel, back door & one skylight all RM8600. Ok ya? rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(REEN YONG @ May 4 2011, 06:41 PM)
Anybody use Yat Sing Wrought Iron Work in Sg Buloh? Hows their work? I booked them during Perfect Living. Today he came to take measurement and said it need 3 weeks to do as they have a lot of order during the Perfect Living. I do one 13 ft wrought iron gate with auto motor, whole house 22x75 windows mild steel, back door & one skylight all RM8600. Ok ya? rolleyes.gif
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Hard to tell. Do you know what thickness of MS and anti rust coating? Also, some WI designs cost a bit more.

Auto gate would cost about RM1.5k. The thing about metal contractor dealing with auto gate. Will he able to service you once your auto gate is down? I went with the same metal contractor knowing he is responsive and reliable.

If you have paid booking with the contractor, do not bother to find out if it is overcharged. Just pray the workmanship is satisfactory.
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QUOTE(escargo75 @ May 2 2011, 11:18 PM)
Hi Awakened Angel, thanks for the sharing...Yeah the WI outside don't look like the pic that you shown. So when they said it is WI mean just by the name not really the material...But powder coat should have better rust protection than painting right?
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Not quite. Powder is time saving as it is throw into oven n bake. Wi gate is most time consuming in paint job. U need 4 layer of paint at least. Oxide primer, black Matt, colour n clear. 4layer x 1-2days of paint n dry =8days

This is for good contractors. For powder coat, obviously faster. For powder coat yes more resistant as it contain epoxy as binder that act as lock to lock the paint into it's tough form. Again, primer n surface preparation n powder coating thickness come into play.

I can propose u a paint system that is equivalent lasting than galvanize n powder coat.

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try this. free on site quotation

http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/pag...134001629948605

Mr. Tan 010-221 9496 (Sanbee Metal Works)
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I got my house a good and value grille from Sang Fook Trading at Balakong.
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anyone know where i can get antique colour paints for my gate?
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QUOTE(ycs @ May 11 2011, 11:06 AM)
anyone know where i can get antique colour paints for my gate?
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Try Malware (M) Sdn Bhd. 603-56349318. They specialize nothing but paint and coating.
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Just confirm with 3 Kim to do the house grille. Very good service =)

1.0mm RHS / SHS secure enough?? BTW what does RHS / SHS stands for? Anyone? sweat.gif

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RHS = rectangular hollow section
SHS = square hollow section smile.gif


Added on May 17, 2011, 6:47 pmbtw, anyone have any recommended powder coated m.s. grille contractors around setia alam, preferably klang? dont have to be cheapest, but i'd like one who does the job properly~

thx in advanced smile.gif

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1.0mm RHS / SHS secure enough?? BTW what does RHS / SHS stands for?  Anyone? sweat.gif
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1.0mm do not exist nowadays... mostly is 0.8mm

and even it is 1.0mm, it is still very thin.. best is go for 1.2mm(min) or 1.6mm

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QUOTE(Awakened_Angel @ May 17 2011, 08:06 PM)
1.0mm do not exist nowadays... mostly is 0.8mm

and even it is 1.0mm, it is still very thin.. best is go for 1.2mm(min) or 1.6mm
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will the impacting the cost if using 1.2 or 1.6mm? Normally or standard give was how many mm??

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That's the problem. When u ask for quotation, no detail spec is given which give rooms for contractor to 'cheat' their way through.....

Like I advice many former here, go to hardware shop with contractor n choose the best material yourself and let the contractor alone do labour cost....
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Bought a house subsale, came with WI grilles and fence .... but I don't fancy the color plus it need repainting ... whats the best method to do?

Ask my main cont to repaint in situ or dismantle and send somewhere for powder coating?

TIA
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just gather a very useful information with my neighbour which doin the powder coating for aluminium. According to him there's a few type of powder coating grade. Its better to use the powder coating which is meant for exterior used and go for the smooth surface instead of rough surface, reason is easy clean and easy to maintain. But he do says that before going for powder coating, the raw material need to go for the so-called liquid treatment to make it more girb and long lasting. At least i know what to ask to the grille contractor
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. At least i know what to ask to the grille contractor
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I dont think he know any of this.. even you ask him, he will sure say no problem.. we`ll do that for you which you dont even know whetehr its done or not......
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thought so...even if you tell them also they sure say can....
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ya... there`s a way though.. a quite rude way...

by black and white.. ask him to come out with quoation, spec, then hold his money say 30% after finish job.. see if he do it or not.. see his bill to powder coat shop.. if no, then dont pay him 30%

Tell him straight to scare him a bit.. say your friend in other state is doing powder coat, but hard to do in KL.. so ask him to check....
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Last week finally decided how the grill will like to be and informed the two contractor for quotation, but endup both also ask me to dropby and select the material myself than only provide the quote.
They indicated that will be much more ease for them. sad.gif
Same goes for my gate too
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QUOTE(Awakened_Angel @ May 5 2011, 08:27 PM)
Not quite. Powder is time saving as it is throw into oven n bake. Wi gate is most time consuming in paint job. U need 4 layer of paint at least. Oxide primer, black Matt, colour n clear. 4layer x 1-2days of paint n dry =8days

This is for good contractors. For powder coat, obviously faster. For powder coat yes more resistant as it contain epoxy as binder that act as lock to lock the paint into it's tough form. Again, primer n surface preparation n powder coating thickness come into play.

I can propose u a paint system that is equivalent lasting than galvanize n powder coat.
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may i know what paint system is that?

going to install grilled at my hse, do study now. thks!
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Do you mind to paying it?
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anybody using hammerite paint for their grille ?
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Hi everyone,

May I know anyone had install Grille from this Delux company before?
How much they charge on wrought iron door or window?
http://mydelux.com.my/products/door/

Any feedback from the grille or their service?
Thanks in advanced.
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QUOTE(Kaitlyn @ Jun 17 2011, 03:24 PM)
Hi everyone,

May I know anyone had install Grille from this Delux company before?
How much they charge on wrought iron door or window?
http://mydelux.com.my/products/door/

Any feedback from the grille or their service?
Thanks in advanced.
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i assign them to do skylight for my yard. Very friendly. My neighbour do wrought grille from them. Very nice. Cost them around Rm9k for the whole house.
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QUOTE(davidtron @ Jun 17 2011, 04:49 PM)
i assign them to do skylight for my yard. Very friendly. My neighbour do wrought grille from them. Very nice. Cost them around Rm9k for the whole house.
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how much for your skylight?
9k for house grill, that is expensive...
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QUOTE(vincentwee @ Jun 18 2011, 12:09 AM)
how much for your skylight?
9k for house grill, that is expensive...
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I was quoted RM19/sq ft. I sign up with them during homedec last May. I also think its a bit expensive for the wrought iron, but my neighbour say he trusted the company.
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Hi guys, have a look on my quotation see ok or not ? i think abit expensive le..
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not a bit but very expensive
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Hi guys, have a look on my quotation see ok or not ? i think abit expensive le..
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its expensive... sweat.gif

QUOTE(vincentwee @ Jun 18 2011, 02:11 PM)
not a bit but very expensive
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my gate 16'x 6'-7.5', with ss track, conceal brackets cost rm3800 not include the timber(+-rm1000).



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QUOTE(vincentwee @ Jun 18 2011, 02:11 PM)
not a bit but very expensive
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Humm, in your opinion, the quotation price should be around??


Added on June 19, 2011, 12:46 am
QUOTE(davidtron @ Jun 17 2011, 04:49 PM)
i assign them to do skylight for my yard. Very friendly. My neighbour do wrought grille from them. Very nice. Cost them around Rm9k for the whole house.
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Waa~ really sweat when I saw 9k! You know the price per sq ft for door grille and window?
Btw your neighbour house is terrace?semi-D or banglo? Maybe his house got alot windows or doors.

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Hi guys, have a look on my quotation see ok or not ? i think abit expensive le..
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the spec is not clearly stated...

its akin like this

to supply a car with 4rubber wheel. Front wheel capable to steer, equiped with 4doors bla bla....

and I supply kancil also can, supply toyota also can, supply BMW also can.........
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QUOTE(davidtron @ Jun 18 2011, 08:53 AM)
I was quoted RM19/sq ft. I sign up with them during homedec last May. I also think its a bit expensive for the wrought iron, but my neighbour say he trusted the company.
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May I know how much they quoted your neighbor for wrought iron on door and window? I thought the per sq ft price for door & window might be vary. Hope to get ur reply soon smile.gif
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QUOTE(Kaitlyn @ Jun 19 2011, 12:57 PM)
May I know how much they quoted your neighbor for wrought iron on door and window? I thought the per sq ft price for door & window might be vary. Hope to get ur reply soon  smile.gif
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i din ask further, but u can calll them up and ask for site visit. Its a double storey intermediate... Quoted RM9k
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QUOTE(rEktOr @ Apr 2 2010, 11:21 AM)
what's the different between mild steel and wrought iron? i dunno about price/sqft..
i'm currently looking around for grille quotation, so far for a 2-storey intermediate house cheapest is 3k wrought iron + hollow steel
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Wrought iron is an incorrect description.
It is not wrought iron.
It is mild steel that looks like wrought iron.
Don't be fooled.
Only in some Western countries there are still some craftsmen who make wrought iron.
They do this by immersing red hot mild steel bar into the oven filled with charcoal
The carbon content in the steel is increased in this manner turning it into wrought iron.
He then has to hammer it into shape.
You can imagine this is such a labourious process it can be very expensive.

In Malaysia no one does that
So wrought iron is only mild steel bars that are rolled and hammered into shape.
Thats why it still rust and has to be painted.

Wrought iron because of its high carbon content does not rust.


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I have used hammerite for grille
It is very difficult to apply as its really tacky
And you cannot add thinner nor dilute it with spirit
If you do that you will spoil the paint
But then the finishing job is good
And lasts a long time
I used hammerite on my aluminium sliding door because i didn't like the aluminium color
Normal paint won't stick on aluminium but hammerite will
It gives it an anitique finish and that was what I was looking for
Be patient
Needs time to apply
And you probably will need more brushes too.

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QUOTE(Kaitlyn @ Jun 19 2011, 12:57 PM)
May I know how much they quoted your neighbor for wrought iron on door and window? I thought the per sq ft price for door & window might be vary. Hope to get ur reply soon  smile.gif
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I'm also using Delux for my backyard skylight - signed up during the Perfect Living in April 11. Product: Sukaiyo solid sheet at RM18 psf with mild steel structural frame.

So far I'm satisfied with their after sales service, as I've called twice to complain on the leaking of the polycarbonate. Both time, they were quick to resolve the issue. Installation quality was so so, not impressed because it shouldn't be any leaking in the first place.

But I like the Sukaiyo solid sheet (imported from Japan) which I got it at RM18 psf. The quality is better than local solid sheets which are about the same price too.

I did asked for the wrought iron grilles, but their pricing were on the high side. At the end, I engaged Ivy from Three Kim for my gate and grilles. smile.gif


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QUOTE(periwater @ Jun 20 2011, 10:54 PM)
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I did asked for the wrought iron grilles, but their pricing were on the high side. At the end, I engaged Ivy from Three Kim for my gate and grilles. smile.gif
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You asked 3 Kim install wrought iron grilles for your full house? Did they included any charges like installation, or transportation fees? How much did they charged you per sf ft on door & window grille, pls share ya rclxms.gif

I had ask on Delux per sq ft charges, expensive for me, with condition condominium surcharge RM300 , and if order below RM2,500.00 surcharge RM 250.00. Anyway, their design really nice, and make me dilemma whether wanna extra pay or not.
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No installation charge or transportation fee. I opted for powder coated mild steel as my husband didn't like the flowery wrought iron. Quoted RM11.50 per sf for window and RM12.50 psf for sliding door, using flat bar.

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I know a number of people got taken in by the special offer of 19rm/sq ' in home exhibitions to install polycarbonate skylight for their homes. The job was so badly done. Structure so flimsy had to be taken down. Few months later it was already rusting. Another friend of mine decided not to install after seeing the poor workmanship and she opted for the company to landscape her garden instead because she could not get a refund on her deposit. So beware! Don't put downpayment unless you really know what you are getting.
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QUOTE(Kaitlyn @ Jun 21 2011, 09:52 AM)
You asked 3 Kim install wrought iron grilles for your full house? Did they included any charges like installation, or transportation fees? How much did they charged you per sf ft on door & window grille, pls share ya  rclxms.gif 

I had ask on Delux per sq ft charges, expensive for me, with condition condominium surcharge RM300 , and if order below RM2,500.00 surcharge RM 250.00. Anyway, their design really nice, and make me dilemma whether wanna extra pay or not.
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Wow, delux really know how to charge all the special 'extras' hehe rolleyes.gif

Kaitlyn, you haven't pm me the design?

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QUOTE(escargo75 @ May 1 2011, 10:36 PM)
What it the price difference between hollow and solid WI and MS grille? Seldom I get people quating the solid one why?

Anyone mind to share pictures of WI and MS because I can't tell but just have to take it when the quoter say this is WI or MS. Can it tell by appearance?

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Wrought Iron is a common name for mild steel that looks like wrought iron.
Real wrought iron are those that you see in Buckingham palace and some very old bridges in London.
So essentially there is no such thing as wrought iron.
It is just mild steel bar, flat or round hammered into certain patterns to make it look like wrought iron.
Real wrought iron is resistant to rusting and need not be painted over.
That's why the WI you get needs to be painted with antique looking paint.
Most people cannot master the technique of painting it to look like its antique
And instead you get this horrible scribble of gold and black mix of paint.
Because they call it WI instead of mild steel they charge much higher.
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Wrought Iron is a common name for mild steel that looks like wrought iron.
Real wrought iron are those that you see in Buckingham palace and some very old bridges in London.
So essentially there is no such thing as wrought iron.
It is just mild steel bar, flat or round hammered into certain patterns to make it look like wrought iron.
Real wrought iron is resistant to rusting and need not be painted over.
That's why the WI you get needs to be painted with antique looking paint.
Most people cannot master the technique of painting it to look like its antique
And instead you get this horrible scribble of gold and black mix of paint.
Because they call it WI instead of mild steel they charge much higher.
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bro...u got that right. there's no 'real' wrought iron in malaysia. even if there was it'll be too expensive to manufacture esp when grilles are very price sensitive products.

wrought iron in malaysia is derived from mild steel material which will be hammered to get that antique look. but bro you're mistaken when u say just because they call it 'wrought iron instead of mild steel they charge much higher'.

1st : there's extra cost of material (though not so much)
2nd :workmanship will be higher compared to MS cos more work in bending and welding the flowers
3rd : painting is more tedious process (normally 3 steps more than gloss paint) e.g. black base, antique color + clear coat

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I know a number of people got taken in by the special offer of 19rm/sq ' in home exhibitions to install polycarbonate skylight for their homes. The job was so badly done. Structure so flimsy had to be taken down. Few months later it was already rusting. Another friend of mine decided not to install after seeing the poor workmanship and she opted for the company to landscape her garden instead because she could not get a refund on her deposit. So beware! Don't put downpayment unless you really know what you are getting.
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Rule of thumb is the choose more reputable companies ie Delux, Deskylight, CSA, etc during these exhibitions. Smaller companies might not be able to cope with in flux of sales, therefore bad installation as every job is 'touch and go'..

Your friends should complain to the vendor, the skylight should still be within the warranty period.

For Delux, it is giving me a 10 years warranty on the skylight, so I have no worries.. Next question: Will Delux still be around for the next 10 years? Yes, I think so..

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Wow, delux really know how to charge all the special 'extras' hehe rolleyes.gif

Kaitlyn, you haven't pm me the design?
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No installation charge or transportation fee. I opted for powder coated mild steel as my husband didn't like the flowery wrought iron. Quoted RM11.50 per sf for window and RM12.50 psf for sliding door, using flat bar.

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Encountered 2 grille suppliers today.

I was looking for window grille.

Basically they say there are 2 types.

The Square 1/2 inch hollow steel tube , mainly basic cell like "square pegs design"
RM 8-9 per square feet

and

The "Wrought Iron" type, flowery design like those grass stem thingy.
RM 18 - 24 per square feet

Want to powder coat, add RM 3 per square feet.

What do you guys think of these price ???? hmm.gif
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Encountered 2 grille suppliers today.

I was looking for window grille.

Basically they say there are 2 types.

The Square 1/2 inch hollow steel tube , mainly basic cell like "square pegs design"
RM 8-9 per square feet

and

The "Wrought Iron" type, flowery design like those grass stem thingy.
RM 18 - 24 per square feet

Want to powder coat, add RM 3 per square feet.

What do you guys think of these price ???? hmm.gif
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The hollow MS grill should be around RM 8 -9/ft2. This was the rate given to me by 3 contractors.
As for the wrought iron type, I don't have any info as I did not go for this.
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I've just completed renovation works a few months ago and already moved in to my new house at seksyen 32, shah alam. But I'm not quite satisfied with the grille works by the contractor that i've hired

I'm planning to do some modifications to the existing grille e.g
1. add reinforcement tightening (maybe with bolts) because currently the grille is just placed with screws to the wall..i think not quite safe.

2. additional bars to existing grille at bathroom window and also rear wet-kitchen area (because there's an open space underneath the awning)

can anyone suggest me good grille suppliers? I'm tired of dealing with the previous supplier because they are very rude and always delay from schedule.


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Hi, I had booked a contractor to do the grille for the whole house and they told me the package will include grille for all the ceiling manholes. My dilemma is, is it necessary to have grille at the ceiling manholes even though we already had alarm install to them? I had looked at their show house and didn’t like the look of grilles at the ceiling plus I’m worried it will be hindering when we wanna install walk-in-wardrobe below it.

Another problem is my bathroom has a window shaped like an upside down ‘L’ and it starts at waist level height. It’s near the shower area, about 1.3m distance facing the shower tap. The contractor told me they’ll install grille from the inside instead of outside, as the window is open outward type. Will the grille rust easily with this proximity from the shower tap? I did ask the contractor about my concerns but of course he’ll say no problem, no rust etc. Are there any other options?

BTW, we ordered for 6mm thickness normal grille, not powder coated nor galvanized.

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If your alarm coverage include the ceiling, then the ceiling manholes would be secured by the alarm. If the burglar really want to enter your house, they could just easily break the ceiling. No need to locate your ceiling manhole.
But since your contractor is giving them FOC to you, why not take it. Additional protection.
But, bear in mind that having the grille at the ceiling manhole will not look nice, in my opinion.

Grille is the bathroom are subjected to moisture from the shower. Especially if you use the hot water frequently. Since you need the protection, why don't you get the contractor to put additional coating onto the grille before installing.
Get them to put a good primer before putting the finishing paint. Primer is important.

Equally important to ensure that all the gaps at the joints are fully seal up. This is to prevent the moisture from entering into the inside of the hollow sections, thus forming rust from within.

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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Jul 27 2011, 12:42 PM)
If your alarm coverage include the ceiling, then the ceiling manholes would be secured by the alarm. If the burglar really want to enter your house, they could just easily break the ceiling. No need to locate your ceiling manhole.
But since your contractor is giving them FOC to you, why not take it. Additional protection.
But, bear in mind that having the grille at the ceiling manhole will not look nice, in my opinion.

Grille is the bathroom are subjected to moisture from the shower. Especially if you use the hot water frequently. Since you need the protection, why don't you get the contractor to put additional coating onto the grille before installing.
Get them to put a good primer before putting the finishing paint. Primer is important.

Equally important to ensure that all the gaps at the joints are fully seal up. This is to prevent the moisture from entering into the inside of the hollow sections, thus forming rust from within.
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Thanks Kelvyn. I agree it looks ugly too so decided to ask the guy not to install the ceiling grille. But I think I'll keep the irons since already paid for it. Iron price is hiking up.

I'll ask the contractor about the additional coating.
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Thanks Kelvyn. I agree it looks ugly too so decided to ask the guy not to install the ceiling grille. But I think I'll keep the irons since already paid for it. Iron price is hiking up.

I'll ask the contractor about the additional coating.
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Why do you want to keep those additional ceiling manhole grille?
Might as well ask for discount. If cannot, maybe get him to put additional coating on those bathroom grilles.

You need space to keep the manhole grille biggrin.gif
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Grilles for a door and two windows will be replaced here (I'm in Penang). Quote I received is RM480 for the door grille and then RM980 for 2 windows. Will be using mild steel only. Thickness is 19mm x 19mm per sq. pipe.


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What do you think of this price? still waiting for some other people to quote me.

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1. The mild steel swing gate is not powder coated or galvanised? It's about RM130 psf, so if it's powder coated, then it's a good deal.

2. Mild steel fencing - no comment, as I didn't do it

3. Mild steel door grille wt powder coated @ RM14 psft - I got mine at RM13.50 psf, using THK1.2 19mm

4 and 5 - no comment

6. Mild steel window grille wt powder coated and angle frame @ RM11 psf - Mine is RM11.50 psf, using THK1.2 19mm.

So, your pricing is not too bad.
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QUOTE(periwater @ Aug 2 2011, 11:16 PM)
weikee,
1. The mild steel swing gate is not powder coated or galvanised? It's about RM130 psf, so if it's powder coated, then it's a good deal.

2. Mild steel fencing - no comment, as I didn't do it

3. Mild steel door grille wt powder coated @ RM14 psft - I got mine at RM13.50 psf, using THK1.2 19mm

4 and 5 - no comment

6. Mild steel window grille wt powder coated and angle frame @ RM11 psf - Mine is RM11.50 psf, using THK1.2 19mm.

So, your pricing is not too bad.
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Is it normal custom that the grille installer just suddenly call you and said they're outside your house and wanted to install the grille? When I booked for it, I told them I wanted the rectification of my new house done first, before starting the grille everything but now he keep on calling and calling and wanted to install them even without my presence. I wanted to be there to make sure the grille pattern and color is the right one before letting them install.
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Is it normal custom that the grille installer just suddenly call you and said they're outside your house and wanted to install the grille? When I booked for it, I told them I wanted the rectification of my new house done first, before starting the grille everything but now he keep on calling and calling and wanted to install them even without my presence. I wanted to be there to make sure the grille pattern and color is the right one before letting them install.
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Tell them if no need pay then come install lah.
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I'm thinking of saying that too but refrained from it. tongue.gif Afterall don't wanna p*ss them .

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forummers,
i need assistance. the subsale property i'd purchased comes with grilles. unfortunately the grilles deisgn and layout is not to my liking. i need to take away some, modify some and add new ones. so overall, it should be more on labour intensive thingy rather than material intensive. who would be interested to undertake such job?
any contact to recommend?
thanks.

PS: rectification mainly due to removal of existing timber window frames to be replaced with aluminium windows. therefore size of grille needs to be modified.
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i need assistance. the subsale property i'd purchased comes with grilles. unfortunately the grilles deisgn and layout is not to my liking. i need to take away some, modify some and add new ones. so overall, it should be more on labour intensive thingy rather than material intensive. who would be interested to undertake such job?
any contact to recommend?
thanks.

PS: rectification mainly due to removal of existing timber window frames to be replaced with aluminium windows. therefore size of grille needs to be modified.
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QUOTE(kochin @ Aug 6 2011, 05:30 PM)
forummers,
i need assistance. the subsale property i'd purchased comes with grilles. unfortunately the grilles deisgn and layout is not to my liking. i need to take away some, modify some and add new ones. so overall, it should be more on labour intensive thingy rather than material intensive. who would be interested to undertake such job?
any contact to recommend?
thanks.

PS: rectification mainly due to removal of existing timber window frames to be replaced with aluminium windows. therefore size of grille needs to be modified.
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Modify, not many will do cause is labor intensive. I got a friend asking many to mod come of the grill, but no one want to do it. End up i think he rent welding machine and do it himself.
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QUOTE(kochin @ Aug 6 2011, 06:30 PM)
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i need assistance. the subsale property i'd purchased comes with grilles. unfortunately the grilles deisgn and layout is not to my liking. i need to take away some, modify some and add new ones. so overall, it should be more on labour intensive thingy rather than material intensive. who would be interested to undertake such job?
any contact to recommend?
thanks.

PS: rectification mainly due to removal of existing timber window frames to be replaced with aluminium windows. therefore size of grille needs to be modified.
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If you are trying to reuse the grilles previously for window frames onto new aluminum windows, there is bound to be problems with the dimensions. Modifications are more labour intensive compared to totally new ones.
End of the day, if the modified grilles does not fit nicely onto the new window frame, who will be responsible? The grille make will not want to take responsibility and the owner will not accept.
Don't think there is any grill maker will take up such risk.
Most likely, they will propose that you make new ones.
They will take the exact measurements after the windows have been plastered.

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given was quite ok.

You Can try this Wrought Iron Singapore

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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Aug 7 2011, 05:00 PM)
If you are trying to reuse the grilles previously for window frames onto new aluminum windows, there is bound to be problems with the dimensions. Modifications are more labour intensive compared to totally new ones.
End of the day, if the modified grilles does not fit nicely onto the new window frame, who will be responsible? The grille make will not want to take responsibility and the owner will not accept.
Don't think there is any grill maker will take up such risk.
Most likely, they will propose that you make new ones.
They will take the exact measurements after the windows have been plastered.
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my existing grille is 'connected' to the timber frame of the windows.
in theory, once i remove the grilles followed by the timber frames and windows, the aluminium contractor will install the outer frame. the outer frame should be somewhat smaller or even pre-agreed sizing. the contractor shall install the outer frame and let the masonry contractor do the touching up. this is to get even/straight levels and better finishing since outer frame will serve as a guide with proper leveling for the masonry contractor. and subsequently, the inner frame goes in and voila, windows exchange completed.
and lastly grilles to be reinstalled back to the original position but should now be hinged or connected to the masonry area. if dimensions goes wrong, can weld a 'ear' to the grille for hinging onto the wall surface as well. it's not difficult but needs some effort and coordination. but somehow senses contractors would not be so generous to offer their extra effort to do so for me.
my biggest concern rather would be whether the making good or touching up to the removed timber frames would be make good using proper material such as grout rather than plaster to prevent shrinkage and cracks appearing after the installation of the windows. and whether there's sufficient strength in the making good to 'receive' the grilles after.
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If at the end of the day, after (accurate smile.gif ) plastering around the windows frame and you find that there is still some gap between the plastered edges and your existing grille, you could opt to either add a flat bar around the edge of the grille to hide the gaps (that's what I did for mine) OR you could fix some trimmings/ Architrave (timber, etc)around the grille frame.
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Hi ,

Is the price of the Mild Steel Swing gate including the auto gate system swing arm ?

MILD STEEL SWING GATE (as per yr design)
material: infill 1"x2"
size: 13' x 6'
1 no.
1,690.00

normally is this quoted together or separately ?

I'm trying to estimate a cost of installing a swing gate with a gate design of my choice.

thanks

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Hi ,

Is the price of the Mild Steel Swing gate including the auto gate system swing arm ?

MILD STEEL SWING GATE (as per yr design)
material: infill 1"x2"
size: 13' x 6'
1 no.
1,690.00

normally is this quoted together or separately ?

I'm trying to estimate a cost of installing a swing gate with a gate design of my choice.

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No way the RM1,690 would include the auto gate system biggrin.gif
The auto gate system itself already cost more than 1k, depending the model you are installing tongue.gif
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QUOTE(MFLooi @ May 10 2010, 10:29 AM)
The best quote I had received recently to share:

To supply and install 
 
1.  Two unit of grille window 580 x  1200mm  RM      200.00
2.  Three unit of grille window 1760 x 1160mm  RM    850.00
3.  Two unit of grille window 1070 x  550mm  RM    163.00
4.  One unit of grille window  2350 x  1740mm  RM    567.00
5.  Two unit of  grille panels 570 x  1770mm  RM    280.00
6.  One unit of double leaf door  1210 x  2090mm  RM    600.00
7.  One unit of double leaf door  1770 x  2690mm  RM    720.00
8.  Replace anchor frame for 10 nos of grille window    RM    350.00
 

Mild Steel:  20mmx  20mm x  1.2mm  hollow section  fabricate  to horizontal design  at ±4 ½” gap c/w one coated of antirust and two coat paint

Mild Steel:  12mm square bar (solid, not hollow) fabricate  to horizontal design  at ±4 ½” gap c/w one coated of antirust and two coat paint  at locations (2) and (5) at an additional of 45% of the listed price.

There's a lot of misconception being spread by the sales ppl. The best is to go to the factory / workshop and engage the owners. Take the effort to go to these workshops.
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I have had my house grille done by Three Kim Metal Works last 2 months, all i can say is excellent workmanship from them, good quality grille and the grille with powder coated looks really nice. The ST Guchi lock they used for the door grille match perfectly and looks really stylish and classy overall. Highly recommend Three Kim to all my friends and anyone here. I'm one of the many highly satisfied Three Kim customers to share the testimonial here. For more info and latest grille photo updates from Three Kim, visit their facebook page:

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QUOTE(chiang88 @ Sep 30 2011, 08:02 PM)
I have had my house grille done by Three Kim Metal Works last 2 months, all i can say is excellent workmanship from them, good quality grille and the grille with powder coated looks really nice. The ST Guchi lock they used for the door grille match perfectly and looks really stylish and classy overall. Highly recommend Three Kim to all my friends and anyone here. I'm one of the many highly satisfied Three Kim customers to share the testimonial here. For more info and latest grille photo updates from Three Kim, visit their facebook page:

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Yup, they did mine too. Fast delivery and prompt service! Highly recommended.
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QUOTE(chiang88 @ Sep 30 2011, 08:02 PM)
I have had my house grille done by Three Kim Metal Works last 2 months, all i can say is excellent workmanship from them, good quality grille and the grille with powder coated looks really nice. The ST Guchi lock they used for the door grille match perfectly and looks really stylish and classy overall. Highly recommend Three Kim to all my friends and anyone here. I'm one of the many highly satisfied Three Kim customers to share the testimonial here. For more info and latest grille photo updates from Three Kim, visit their facebook page:

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Yup, they did mine too. Fast delivery and prompt service! Highly recommended.
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I am using Smart GrillTrading in Klang.
Damm cheap. rclxms.gif
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I am using Smart GrillTrading in Klang.
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Be careful - what u pay is what u get!
I've seen grilles with bad workmanship

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Lots of way to sell cheap. Use thin metal, difference grade metal, type of paint.
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How's the workmanship?
Be careful - what u pay is what u get!
I've seen grilles with bad workmanship
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I am a happy customer of Three Kim too. I wouldn't say they are the cheapest, as I had cheaper quotes. No doubt, their workmanship is good and there are many vendors with good workmanship too. But what I like most about Three Kim, the thing that sets them apart of others is their service. Both Ivy and Kenment are down to earth, prompt, efficient and honest in their business dealings.

Eg: I've ordered a wrought iron gate with hot dip galvanised and powder coated. During the installation, Ivy noticed that the gate is mild steel gate instead of wrought iron. She called me immediately, apologised for the mistake, and asked me if I can accept the mild steel gate. If I can, then she will reissue an invoice based on the mild steel price. If not, she has to re-do the whole gate.

To me, both wrought iron and mild gate look so alike and I couldn't tell the difference. But due to Ivy's honesty, a good relationship is established, I don't mind to accept the error made.

After installation, their services did not end there. I have called them twice to touch up on minor detects and they came to touch up without hesitations. This type of service is priceless!

Many LYN members wrote in to vouch for Three Kim because we appreciate their service and effort, an SME like that deserves to be recognised for being a good vendor. Other LYN members can use Three Kim as a benchmark when getting quotations. Don't settle for anything less!
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will the impacting the cost if using 1.2 or 1.6mm? Normally or standard give was how many mm??
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It seem like price different on RM2.5 between 0.8mm and 1.6mm for Grill? Is the price below reasonable?

MS = 166sfx 10.5=1743 (1.6mm) / 166sfx 8 =1328 (0.8 mm) different of RM415

As for 16 feets Gate, it quoted RM2700 for MS + RM150 for stainless steel Roller with similar to below design but all Horizotal (without the flower box)
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QUOTE(Jo_da48 @ Oct 19 2011, 12:06 AM)
It seem like price different on RM2.5 between 0.8mm and 1.6mm for Grill? Is the  price below reasonable?

MS = 166sfx 10.5=1743 (1.6mm) / 166sfx 8 =1328 (0.8 mm) different of RM415

As for 16 feets Gate, it quoted RM2700 for MS + RM150 for stainless steel Roller with similar to below design but all Horizotal (without the flower box)
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My contractor charged me RM2.4k for similar size and design, galvanised gate incl stainless steel track.
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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Oct 19 2011, 09:02 AM)
My contractor charged me RM2.4k for similar size and design, galvanised gate incl stainless steel track.
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what the length of your gate? 16 feets? In short I been quoted high???


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I am using Smart GrillTrading in Klang.
Damm cheap.  rclxms.gif
My contractor see the price he  notworthy.gif
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any feedback?
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QUOTE(Jo_da48 @ Oct 19 2011, 10:33 AM)
what the length of your gate? 16 feets? In short I been quoted high???
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My gate size is 6' x 15'
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bro,
how's the quality so far?
any feedback?
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Still waiting for my contractor to initiate the grill installation.
Will keep you updated in my Topic. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Oct 19 2011, 02:37 PM)
My gate size is 6' x 15'
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ANyhint the tightness been used on your gate? 0.7 / 1mm / 1.2 or 1.6mm?
Like to see an I should further reduce the price or ...as he just dropped to 2.5K + 150 for the roller.

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QUOTE(Jo_da48 @ Oct 20 2011, 01:58 AM)
ANyhint the tightness been used on your gate? 0.7 / 1mm / 1.2 or 1.6mm?
Like to see an I should further reduce the price or ...as he just dropped to 2.5K + 150 for the roller.
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The outer frame is of 2.3mm while the inner steel sections are either 1.2mm or 1.6mm. The reason for this is because my gate was galvanised. There is a minimum thickness of steel sections if you are putting them through the hot dipped galvanising process.

BTW, I have know the fabricator a long way back. Thus, could be the reason for the special price. smile.gif

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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Oct 20 2011, 08:45 AM)
The outer frame is of 2.3mm while the inner steel sections are either 1.2mm or 1.6mm. The reason for this is because my gate was galvanised. There is a minimum thickness of steel sections if you are putting them through the hot dipped galvanising process.

BTW, I have know the fabricator a long way back. Thus, could be the reason for the special price.  smile.gif
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If not mistake, the folk didn't do "galvanising" on it, as I didn't see have such room on he factory. He worker doing painting on open area than I guess leave there to get dry...



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Normally Galvanised is done by specialized factory. Grill maker will send it to the factory and do.
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WIll check with the contractor whether Gate have galvanized done or not, as since it installed at open area which more ease to give rust.

WIll different between 1.6mm / 1.2mm have any big different for Grill interm of been breakin? Same or ?
Because that was differential of RM250 between this two...

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1.6 and 1.2mm, you mean thickness? 1.6mm is better.
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If you are going for galvanising, then there is a minimum thickness for different member sizes. Of course, the thicker the steel member, the better BUT don't forget the weight consideration especially for the gate. As the thicker steel members will add on to the overall gate.
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15 feets gate enough width for two cars?


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16' would be better. smile.gif That was also my initial plan. But due to the need to allocate the space for the rubbish compartment and water filter, plus the gate pillars, etc. I am left with balance of 15' plus for the gate. 15' is still OK if your dive way is long. If your driveway is short (just enough for the length of your car, then it could post a problem. Another issue is the type of gate used. If using the folding gate, you need to allow for the effective clear opening. The type of auto gate system also effects the effective opening. Those using the arm type will have a smaller effective opening.
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http://img.alibaba.com/photo/244940929/SL_...ANCHOR.summ.jpg

THIS IS THE BEST LAA.. SLEEVE ANCHOR

SOME JUST USE CONCRETENAIL
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Haven't seen anyone use this before. Wall plug got la (plastic piece, fasten with screws). This sleeve anchor must use bolt to fasten & screw portion will be jutting out when tightened. Got people use for window grille? Sure more expensive.
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QUOTE(winchaser @ Oct 27 2011, 01:21 PM)
Haven't seen anyone use this before.  Wall plug got la (plastic piece, fasten with screws).  This sleeve anchor must use bolt to fasten & screw portion will be jutting out when tightened.  Got people use for window grille?  Sure more expensive.
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This kind of anchor quite common and very cheap. Easily obtain from all hardware shops. Will not cost more to use them. Most important is to tack weld the ends after fastening smile.gif
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Like to seek your advise

According to the info, below type of Grill are less secure, due to the material the round Hole go through are the weak point

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Compared to traditional type "+" type
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Is that true?

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BTW, I have know the fabricator a long way back. Thus, could be the reason for the special price.  smile.gif
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Try but lower price got was RM2500 for 15 feets MS without Galvanise. Just normal paint so more rclxub.gif


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If is weld is ok. For outdoor try use galvanized.
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QUOTE(weikee @ Oct 29 2011, 07:43 PM)
If is weld is ok. For outdoor try use galvanized.
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He actually not even recommeding galvanized, because only those knocking will get rush even after galvanized example side door with Lock

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He actually not even recommeding galvanized, because only those knocking will get rush even after galvanized example side door with Lock
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Maybe he don't do Galvanized. Proper galvanized metal, it can last long for welded portion need to use good primer + paint (or even some paint now are very good to protect rust) will do.
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QUOTE(weikee @ Oct 29 2011, 09:23 PM)
Maybe he don't do Galvanized. Proper galvanized metal, it can last long for welded portion need to use good primer + paint (or even some paint now are very good to protect rust) will do.
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Maybe...because I'm choicing ICI for the paint. Anywhere, will give a go on Monday so that I could start in place rest of items lol...

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QUOTE(Jo_da48 @ Oct 29 2011, 08:16 PM)
He actually not even recommeding galvanized, because only those knocking will get rush even after galvanized example side door with Lock
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You can do powder coating and oven. The powder paint very hard, thick and strong bond.
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You can do powder coating and oven. The powder paint very hard, thick and strong bond.
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Not as strong as galvanized.

We never see lamp post rust right smile.gif is galvanized.
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Powder coating is more for the aesthetic while galvanising is corrosion protection. Both function differently smile.gif
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FAQ Galvanized


1. How does galvanizing protect steel from corrosion?

Zinc metal used in the galvanizing process provides an impervious barrier between the steel substrate and corrosive elements in the atmosphere. It does not allow moisture and corrosive chlorides and sulfides to attack the steel. Zinc is more importantly anodic to steel – meaning it will corrode before the steel, until the zinc is entirely consumed.




4. How long can I expect my galvanized steel project to last in service?

Hot-dip galvanized steel resists corrosion in numerous environments extremely well. It is not uncommon for galvanized steel to last more than 70 years under certain conditions. To get a good idea of how long your project will last, see the service-life chart.

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ic that you have now become a galvanising expert rclxms.gif
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Uncle google help, and some friend also using it.
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QUOTE(weikee @ Oct 30 2011, 09:36 AM)
Not as strong as galvanized.

We never see lamp post rust right smile.gif is galvanized.
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It is alternative coating if they prefer another type.


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Powder coating is more for the aesthetic while galvanising is corrosion protection. Both function differently smile.gif
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Not just aesthetic. Powder coating do protect from corrosion. If you notice those factory electrical box or db box, the box is coat with this. You can't scratch it off easily.

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I more worry is the area where the small entry door lock with be rush due to the lock set...

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QUOTE(ozak @ Oct 30 2011, 12:12 PM)
It is alternative coating if they prefer another type.


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Not just aesthetic. Powder coating do protect from corrosion. If you notice those factory electrical box or db box, the box is coat with this. You can't scratch it off easily.
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A powder coated meter box.... it has not rusted yet because it is not located under the rain & shine. biggrin.gif

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Been trying to put what I read into practice, but my contractor seems like a little clueless when I asked him on:

1. Powder coated mild-steel price. He said normal (non-powder coated) = RM10/sqft. Powder coat must send to factory - must check back price. Anyone know what is the price range like?
2. Sleeve anchor. He said he use wall plug (plastic) and screws only.
3. Weld nut after fasten on sleeve anchor. That won't damage powder coating at the bracket?
4. 1.2 mm vs 1.6 mm. Dunno about 1.6 mm. Regular one 1.2 mm only. Anyone have 1.6 mm thick grille?
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QUOTE(winchaser @ Oct 31 2011, 10:07 AM)
Been trying to put what I read into practice, but my contractor seems like a little clueless when I asked him on:

1. Powder coated mild-steel price.  He said normal (non-powder coated) = RM10/sqft.  Powder coat must send to factory - must check back price.  Anyone know what is the price range like?
2. Sleeve anchor.  He said he use wall plug (plastic) and screws only.
3. Weld nut after fasten on sleeve anchor.  That won't damage powder coating at the bracket?
4. 1.2 mm vs 1.6 mm.  Dunno about 1.6 mm.  Regular one 1.2 mm only.  Anyone have 1.6 mm thick grille?
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1. Think is only extra RM 1 or RM 2 only.

2. Yup, normally use wall plug and screw down, than weld and grind off the top. Than paint. Only door they use sleeve anchors, than cut and weld after secure.

3. It won't cause usually the grill have extended ear, and the nut are bolt on the ear.

4. I think you need 2" or maybe 2.5" steel to get 1.6mm. Mine 1" is also 1.2mm maybe 1.1mm not too sure.
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1. Powder coated mild-steel price.  He said normal (non-powder coated) = RM10/sqft.  Powder coat must send to factory - must check back price.  Anyone know what is the price range like? Powder coating is done by specialist. Not every grill fabricator will have that.
2. Sleeve anchor.  He said he use wall plug (plastic) and screws only. Also OK la... if you are fixing the grille on the inside. Just try to cover up the screw so that it would be difficult for anyone to unfasten them.
3. Weld nut after fasten on sleeve anchor.  That won't damage powder coating at the bracket? Could always protect the rest of the parts during welding
4. 1.2 mm vs 1.6 mm.  Dunno about 1.6 mm.  Regular one 1.2 mm only.  Anyone have 1.6 mm thick grille? Price will be dependent on the material thickness. Reckon, for window grille, 1.2mm should be more than sufficient


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I more worry is the area where the small entry door lock with be rush due to the lock set...
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If your concern in on the padlock's abrasion onto the painted/ powder coated surface, why don't you install a mortice lock instead of the padlock. Thus no moving padlock when the gate swings.

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If your concern in on the padlock's abrasion onto the painted/ powder coated surface, why don't you install a mortice lock instead of the padlock. Thus no moving padlock when the gate swings.
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IF I keep using the small door in / out...

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IF I keep using the small door in / out...
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Do you mean that you do not intend to lock the small door or what? Don't understand.

Check out the available lock set that suits your requirement. There are some that needs the key to lock, etc...
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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Oct 31 2011, 10:20 PM)
Do you mean that you do not intend to lock the small door or what? Don't understand.

Check out the available lock set that suits your requirement. There are some that needs the key to lock, etc...
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Sorry. I meant most of time I will in / out from the small door instead of through AutoGate except night time lol. hence will need to ensure the lock area will not get rush if I didn;t do galvanize or powder coated.
I will talk to the contract maybe could in place stainless steel ear lock brows.gif

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I'll advice if you want powder coat, get common color so is easier to patch by normal paint. I am using normal matt black powder coat internal, external is galvanized + paint over it using same color.
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I am looking for grill installation for my new house. Any one can share good vendor that supply for this?

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QUOTE(weikee @ Oct 31 2011, 10:34 PM)
I'll advice if you want powder coat, get common color so is easier to patch by normal paint. I am using normal matt black powder coat internal, external is galvanized + paint over it using same color.
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actually how reliable of powder coating as compared to normal spray paint ya? I saw my friend's house, his grille is actually in white colour, the grille maker sprayed it using car paint (as they claim can last longer), however after 1 year plus, the area near the lock there, the paint start to drop off, as he always accidentally cucuk the grille with key, powder coating can last better with such wear and tear?
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QUOTE(leeyung @ Nov 17 2011, 11:35 AM)
actually how reliable of powder coating as compared to normal spray paint ya? I saw my friend's house, his grille is actually in white colour, the grille maker sprayed it using car paint (as they claim can last longer), however after 1 year plus, the area near the lock there, the paint start to drop off, as he always accidentally cucuk the grille with key, powder coating can last better with such wear and tear?
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It still easy peel off, maybe harder only. My grill is a good example, drop some hardware on it, one patch came off. Lucky is common color, I apply primer and spray it.
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QUOTE(leeyung @ Nov 17 2011, 11:35 AM)
actually how reliable of powder coating as compared to normal spray paint ya? I saw my friend's house, his grille is actually in white colour, the grille maker sprayed it using car paint (as they claim can last longer), however after 1 year plus, the area near the lock there, the paint start to drop off, as he always accidentally cucuk the grille with key, powder coating can last better with such wear and tear?
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Powder coating are more hard and thicker. It not easy to scratch. But if knocking hard on it will crack the pain. Not peel off.
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I am looking for grill installation for my new house. Any one can share good vendor that supply for this?

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Me too. Bukit Mertajam area. Anyone? Interested in powdercoated mild steel.
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QUOTE(ozak @ Nov 17 2011, 06:47 PM)
Powder coating are more hard and thicker. It not easy to scratch. But if knocking hard on it will crack the pain. Not peel off.
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got 2 type powder coating, smooth surface and rough surface.

rough one more better.
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QUOTE(papaya2 @ Nov 17 2011, 06:59 PM)
got 2 type powder coating, smooth surface and rough surface.

rough one more better.
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The rough 1 will trap the dirt if use outside. Indoor no problem.
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QUOTE(papaya2 @ Nov 17 2011, 06:59 PM)
got 2 type powder coating, smooth surface and rough surface.

rough one more better.
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if not mistaken, smooth surface is only 1 colour.

rough surface is 2 colours, they call it 2 tones. means they spray 2 colours n u will see 2 tones. 2 tones r more expensive compare to 1.


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Me too.  Bukit Mertajam area.  Anyone?  Interested in powdercoated mild steel.
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i would like to recommend Three Kim Metal Work. I engaged them as i read many recommendation from this forum.

they r located at kajang, but they came to measure my house at klang n provide quotation on Sep. their price r good compare to many grill suppliers at klang. i told them my house will be ready for installation on Nov only, they waited patiently n also responded quickly to my questions n request during this period. you can contact them via hp, email as well as fb. i would say very good service n very helpful.

they r coming to fix de grill n the polycarbonate sheet next week, im very looking forward.

their fb is https://www.facebook.com/#!/threekimmetalworks. you can contact Ivy.

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yeap agreed, i engaged 3kim too for my new place. very efficient, frenly and professional. smile.gif
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Rough surface is it what you'll refer to paint in matt finish?
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3Kim got branch in Penang?
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Rough surface is it what you'll refer to paint in matt finish?
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QUOTE(weikee @ Nov 17 2011, 12:34 PM)
It still easy peel off, maybe harder only. My grill is a good example, drop some hardware on it, one patch came off. Lucky is common color, I apply primer and spray it.
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tested on several surface, felt that powder coating, the paint/powder stick HARDER than usual spray painy and the powder is much more thicker as compare to typical spray paint.
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Can anyone advise on the normal 1.2mm grill pricing? I have a quo for my new hse grill of RM4100. Is this consider good price?

2 units 3 panel sliding door
1 unit single wood door
2 units 2 panel window
1 unit 3 panel window
3 units toilet small window
1 unit single panel window

Beside that the contractor also quo me a awning 20ft*11ft awning (not metal type but like plastic with color) RM6600 rclxub.gif I wonder is it really so expensive ah?
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My entire house with 13+ feet metal gate around 10k, external is with hot dip galvanized.

I see you have 3 unit sliding door, that usually more expensive. And you did not state the measurement is also very hard to give you advice.
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My entire house with 13+ feet metal gate around 10k, external is with hot dip galvanized.

I see you have 3 unit sliding door, that usually more expensive. And you did not state the measurement is also very hard to give you advice.
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Friend, you have special offer on your grill and gate lol... drool.gif
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Friend,  you have special offer on your grill and gate lol... drool.gif
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No lah. Is about market price.

But I think that company too rich already. Install everything about 3 weeks already don't want to come collect the balance 70%.


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QUOTE(weikee @ Nov 21 2011, 11:49 AM)
My entire house with 13+ feet metal gate around 10k, external is with hot dip galvanized.

I see you have 3 unit sliding door, that usually more expensive. And you did not state the measurement is also very hard to give you advice.
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I tot the window & door consider standard size?
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guys is there still solid steel grille rather then holow section steel? tyty
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You need to have solid support the normal sand brick may not hold the weigth.
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I wander how much more the price with those 10-15mm solid steel grillle, any idea psqf price?

QUOTE(weikee @ Nov 21 2011, 02:36 PM)
Yes, is all about money. Or ask them use 20mm diameter Rebar biggrin.gif

You need to have solid support the normal sand brick may not hold the weigth.
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Not sure, is all about design, and also thickness. You need to ask them for quote. The price of steal is really sky high now.
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QUOTE(Eng_Tat @ Nov 21 2011, 03:22 PM)
I wander how much more the price with those 10-15mm solid steel grillle, any idea psqf price?
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just to giv u gauge, a 12mm x 12mm solid bar is rm16/psf. so u can guess how much it is
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12mm x 12mm from outside look is very small. My windows grill is 1/2" x 1", facing 1".

If you doing 1/2" x 1" solid. I guess it will be 30+- / psf.
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even at 12mm it should be solid rite? i was thinking of using solid one for ground floor, since the back is already extended till the road d if you get what i mean.
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That price is exclude workmanship if i read "kucingfight" post.

Even you have solid, you need proper mount. Useless if just screw mount only. You need something like mounting gate, put the long bar inside the wall.

Why not use thicker steel? say 1.5mm
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QUOTE(weikee @ Nov 21 2011, 04:26 PM)
That price is exclude workmanship if i read "kucingfight" post.

Even you have solid, you need proper mount. Useless if just screw mount only. You need something like mounting gate, put the long bar inside the wall.

Why not use thicker steel? say 1.5mm
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forgot 2 mention, the price rm16/sq feet is for window only.'finish' price include installation(provided total amount > certain value, say 2k). powder coat +rm2-3/sq ft.

tat was the price i was quoted. 1.6mm SHS rm14/sq feet. for door +rm2-3/sq ft

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hi guys, to repaint old grills, just sand and repaint is it? No need to do anything else?

Any good paint to recommend?
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Got the very expensive i think is "hammerite" paint. No need to much scrapping, it suppose to take care of the rust too.

For normal paint, is best to brush it out the rust / loose paint using steel brush, apply primer, apply paint.
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Hammerite is the brand of the paint?
Must apply primer like ceiling and wall also? Meaning paint anything also must apply primer coat right?

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Grill / metal better apply primer easy to paint. Without is ok, just need some experience.


Added on November 23, 2011, 10:02 pmI paint my old house grill. Well, actually not paint is spray. I got Bosch spray pump. Paint won't stick well on steel without primer.

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Sorry, very noob question. Is primer for metal same as primer for wall? Primer and sealant are two different thing right?
Is spray better than brush in terms of finishing and cost effective?
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Think is difference, i never use sealer much, i always ask for primer only. Primer term is same on wood, metal, and wall, but is not the same material (primer).

It help easy to paint and protect the object/subject too.

Spray is sure nicer but lots of preparation work. Cause the paint particle will fly to many area. Need lots of masking tape. And lots of paint too. If you buy ready can paint, you need LOTS of it. So usually people just use brush to paint.
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Bro weikee, thank you very much for explaining. Now I understand better.
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Perai side good grille installer... anyone?
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Just get my grill / gate in place last week...

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Now wait for Skylight...
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Please PM me the contact if you have any..

Thank you so much!!
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mine...1.6mm double storey...design horizontal + 1 vertical bar...>5+.
At cheras, anyone interested...??
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I see you got a folding gate, like mine biggrin.gif
Can share the gate size and weight?
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anyone has any recommendation for grilles in Melaka? Just got a quote from a factory - MS 1.2mm powder coated about RM14 psf. I think it is slightly more expensive than what has been discussed here in the forum. Any comments?

the grille looks something like this

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=153...&type=3&theater

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QUOTE(finestq @ Jan 2 2012, 04:11 PM)
anyone has any recommendation for grilles in Melaka? Just got a quote from a factory - MS 1.2mm powder coated about RM14 psf. I think it is slightly more expensive than what has been discussed here in the forum. Any comments?

the grille looks something like this

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=153...&type=3&theater
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I did mine in mlk, slightly pricy but quality turn out very satisfied biggrin.gif
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I see you got a folding gate, like mine  biggrin.gif
Can share the gate size and weight?
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15.5F, didn't know the weight as was too smooth and not even need push hard...the right hand even when heave wind it will just move itself rclxm9.gif

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just got a quote for grille... about RM18 psf for solid steel... design is so called keyboard(just 2 horizontal bars very close together than a gap then 2 horizontal bars again, etc)... the main door grille was RM34 psf!!! same design... fencing for a 3 feet steel bars facing out(on top of my fence wall which is only 4 1/2 feet high is quoted at a whopping RM48 per foot(galvanised)... this is in Melaka... think is quite expensive

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QUOTE(finestq @ Feb 6 2012, 11:25 PM)
just got a quote for grille... about RM18 psf for solid steel... design is so called keyboard(just 2 horizontal bars very close together than a gap then 2 horizontal bars again, etc)... the main door grille was RM34 psf!!! same design... fencing for a 3 feet steel bars facing out(on top of my fence wall which is only 4 1/2 feet high is quoted at a whopping RM48 per foot(galvanised)... this is in Melaka... think is quite expensive
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if u dont mind which contractor u ask for quotation @ melaka. i think malaccan really love keyboard style. so many house with this design. one more thing, is it possible if we can design our own?
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Anybody know what's the price for mild steel or mild steel powder coated grille per sqft ???
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Anybody know what's the price for mild steel or mild steel powder coated grille per sqft ???
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Not sure how much does it cost but I got mine at 5.5k for my whole Double Storey House with folding gate.

1. Powder Coated Mild Steel - 2.5k

- Living Hall Sliding Door (10'x7')
- Master Bedroom Window (12'x5')
- Master Bathroom Window (6'6"x2') & (5'x2')
- Family Hall Window (6'x2")
- Bedroom 2 Window (4'6"x5'6")
- Bathroom 2 Window (2'x4')
- Bedroom 3 Window (4'6"x5'6")
- Bathroom 3 Window (2'x4') & Ceiling Manhole
- Exchaust Fan
- Kitchen Window (6'x3'6") & (4'x3'6")

2. Wrought Iron Folding Gate with Small Door (Galvanized & Powder Coated) 12 feet - 3k

I still think the folding gate is too expensive. sad.gif

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Not sure how much does it cost but I got mine at 5.5k for my whole Double Storey House with folding gate. 

1. Powder Coated Mild Steel - 2.5k

- Living Hall Sliding Door (10'x7')
- Master Bedroom Window (12'x5')
- Master Bathroom Window (6'6"x2') & (5'x2')
- Family Hall Window (6'x2")
- Bedroom 2 Window (4'6"x5'6")
- Bathroom 2 Window (2'x4')
- Bedroom 3 Window (4'6"x5'6")
- Bathroom 3 Window (2'x4') & Ceiling Manhole
- Exchaust Fan
- Kitchen Window (6'x3'6") & (4'x3'6")

2. Wrought Iron Folding Gate with Small Door (Galvanized & Powder Coated) 12 feet - 3k

I still think the folding gate is too expensive.  sad.gif
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mhhee. im looking for contractor for grill & gate. can u pm me ur contractor number? any photo can see.

btw, my new house at puchong
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mhhee. im looking for contractor for grill & gate. can u pm me ur contractor number? any photo can see.

btw, my new house at puchong
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biggrin.gif Special price from my contractor because I engaged him to do my whole house. He is outsource to someone in Banting. Bangladesh who married Malay lady here & open his own business. I see his workmanship better than some Chinese shop. smile.gif

If you want I can ask my contractor to get the contact for you tomorrow.
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Mhhee, can you on me ur grill contractor too? Thanks first
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Mhhee, kindly pm me ur contractor num. Tqvm

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Mhhee, pm me also tqvm
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my grill also done by bangla...to be honest thier workmanship is better than chinese.....and willingness to care for your grill .....not chinese which $$$ first than ermm lansi also.....the way talking in phone already turn me off....maybe they have huge project going on ....if wanna turn down customer just exit it nice way.....coz paying is us
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QUOTE(tecksoon @ Feb 29 2012, 01:51 AM)
my grill also done by bangla...to be honest thier workmanship is better than chinese.....and willingness to care for your grill .....not chinese which $$$ first than ermm lansi also.....the way talking in phone already turn me off....maybe they have huge project going on ....if wanna turn down customer just exit it nice way.....coz paying is us
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This guys are rough labour and not many education. Different busines sector different kind of people. Understand this and you have a good business.
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QUOTE(ozak @ Feb 29 2012, 09:09 AM)
This guys are rough labour and not many education. Different busines sector different kind of people. Understand this and you have a good business.
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Applies to most types of workers in construction. If they are highly educated, they wouldn't be doing what they are doing.
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Applies to most types of workers in construction. If they are highly educated, they wouldn't be doing what they are doing.
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Don't under estimate them. Anytime richer than you. biggrin.gif

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Don't under estimate them. Anytime richer than you. biggrin.gif

Chinese said, meet people talk people language. Meet ghost, talk ghost language. smile.gif
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Exactly. Meet online also must use online language. Someone here also unscrupulous....pretend to be helpful and nice and used my goodwill info for his contractor to victimized me.

btw, your contractor has been warned for attempting fraudulent claim and services. You know who you are, please dont pakat with your contractor in here to get more funny business for him from other innocent forummers so that YOU could get cheaper renovation. Its not nice at all and thats indirectly cheating ppl.

btw all, this is not about kitchen cabinet fraudulent claim...its on renovation on extension and wet work.

Kitchen cabinet service from this thread has been great and trustworthy
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Exactly. Meet online also must use online language. Someone here also unscrupulous....pretend to be helpful and nice and used my goodwill info for his contractor to victimized me.

btw, your contractor has been warned for attempting fraudulent claim and services. You know who you are, please dont pakat with your contractor in here to get more funny business for him from other innocent forummers so that YOU could get cheaper renovation. Its not nice at all and thats indirectly cheating ppl.

btw all, this is not about kitchen cabinet fraudulent claim...its on renovation on extension and wet work.

Kitchen cabinet service from this thread has been great and trustworthy
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Wow, what story? where your post get victimized?
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Wow, what story? where your post get victimized?
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its the post after sharing, our friend here nicely use partial then make up his own story and such...good thing moderator is alert...
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This guys are rough labour and not many education. Different busines sector different kind of people. Understand this and you have a good business.
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not to under estimate anyboby...just my experince with ppl....as my brother house grill done by chinese as mine by those bangladesh......what annoying is how they do job (chinese) and ppl contact skill.....we dont mind to pay extra abit as long job satisfied.....lansi in conversation, workmanship not under expectant .....by the way im chinese too


Added on February 29, 2012, 8:32 pmhopefully for chinese contrator understand , its not complain , its the skill and way how to interact with ppl.....u know its all bout money involved....and its hard cold cash smile.gif

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My house renovation in PJ just about to complete. Any advise where would be the best place to get grills done prefereably direct from factory? Thanks
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My house renovation in PJ just about to complete. Any advise where would be the best place to get grills done prefereably direct from factory? Thanks
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All grills are direct from factory. They all buy steel bars, then convert in their workshop/factory to your window/door/gate size and design.
This is all custom made item.

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All grills are direct from factory. They all buy steel bars, then convert in their workshop/factory to your window/door/gate size and design.
This is all custom made item.
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Noted. Thanks. Any suggestion of contractors?
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Noted. Thanks.  Any suggestion of contractors?
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I got my grill from here. Price is also stated here.

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2021842&hl=

but factory damm far away....

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I got my grill from here. Price is also stated here.

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2021842&hl=

but factory damm far away....
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Normally a wrought iron gate for 12 ft will cost how much?


Added on March 6, 2012, 11:28 pm
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biggrin.gif  Special price from my contractor because I engaged him to do my whole house. He is outsource to someone in Banting. Bangladesh who married Malay lady here & open his own business. I see his workmanship better than some Chinese shop.  smile.gif

If you want I can ask my contractor to get the contact for you tomorrow.
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Mhhee, can u pm me ur contractor no.?

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Hi, recently I'm doing research on grille.
Is powder coated a must? does all the grille supplier do powder coated by default or you have to request for it?
Rough surface and smooth surface, which one is better? I plan to do smooth surface (white color) but the supplier said it will turn yellowish after some time..is it true?
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Guys, those who wish to install grilles to their homes, I strongly recommend DO NOT use SMART GRILLE, the company is in Jalan Kapar, Klang. I can say all staffs including the boss (MR. YU) are those who has 'TIDAK APA' attitude after securing your job. I also strongly recommend DO NOT DEAL with the sales person by the name of ZHANG, who has no experience in grilles at all. C
ause I am one of the victim. Before securing your job, everything is possible and promise to fullfill. But time and time again, always given EMPTY PROMISES.

I have had this very bad experience that I wish to share with ALL LYN FORUMMERS.
Untill todate there is still uncomplete window grille in my house. Even though reminder after reminders/went to the factory, spoken to Mr Yu (the boss) is of no use. They will give you empty promise. To be frank, i'm very fed up and chose other contractor to finish the remaining window grille.

He is the same person with PRONEEX AWNING AND GATE SDN BHD.


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Guys, i have 5ft x 22ft space behind the house. If i were to surround it entirely wif horizontal flat bar grilles instead of bricking it up, will it cost me a bomb (like, RM10k??)
Main purpose is bcoz i wan to remain dat place airy & wif sunlight as my laundry area. And with a glass roof on top, i guess it will look nice! tongue.gif
I also dont wish to block the sunlight & airflow into my kitchen by bricking dat space up..

(I have a sample picture to show but cant upload it now, hope u guys could imagine it)
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I did mine in mlk, slightly pricy but quality turn out very satisfied biggrin.gif
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Just wanna find out. Normally u install the grille behind the glass door ( cannot see the grille from outside) or before the glass door( can see the grille from outside)? Pls share your experience of both setting. Thanks a lot!
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I got my grille from Sang Fook. Quality of work quite ok. Do contact him Ah Heng 012 3252 102
Say Ah Lim intro quite reasonable price and not very calculative if ask to add small item he give for free.
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Got my grille and gate from Three Kim. Very satisfied with Ivy's customer service. And I believe their price is very competitive too smile.gif.

From my opinion, the grille is ok, meet my expectation. But the fact is they are responsive to your request. Feel free to give Ivy a call. Which i believe you can get their number in the previous post.
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QUOTE(cvshi515 @ May 8 2012, 09:56 AM)
Got my grille and gate from Three Kim. Very satisfied with Ivy's customer service. And I believe their price is very competitive too smile.gif.

From my opinion, the grille is ok, meet my expectation. But the fact is they are responsive to your request. Feel free to give Ivy a call. Which i believe you can get their number in the previous post.
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QUOTE(cvshi515 @ May 8 2012, 08:56 AM)
Got my grille and gate from Three Kim. Very satisfied with Ivy's customer service. And I believe their price is very competitive too smile.gif.

From my opinion, the grille is ok, meet my expectation. But the fact is they are responsive to your request. Feel free to give Ivy a call. Which i believe you can get their number in the previous post.
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me too ... their customer service and price = rclxms.gif thumbup.gif

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how to they fix the grille to the window... mine with a small screw drilled at the side of the window.... sometimes it causes the cement to break... at the side... to near to the edge...

I don't think this small screw going to hold the intruder...

How does it done on your houses... pls share...
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QUOTE(manemaren @ May 11 2012, 10:22 AM)
how to they fix the grille to the window... mine with a small screw drilled at the side of the window.... sometimes it causes the cement to break... at the side... to near to the edge...

I don't think this small screw going to hold the intruder...

How does it done on your houses... pls share...
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Just screw? If I'm an intruder i can unscrew it quitely and get in ithink.. I thought they use some plug thing? no? I read it somewhere on this forum itself..you need to read all the pages la..I think WeiKee said it before
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QUOTE(craftsnknots @ May 11 2012, 10:58 AM)
Just screw? If I'm an intruder i can unscrew it quitely and get in ithink.. I thought they use some plug thing? no? I read it somewhere on this forum itself..you need to read all the pages la..I think WeiKee said it before
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Usually they will use mid size screw, weld it, then grind the head. Lastly paint it.
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Is it conveniernt to provide your details quote to find out Tree Kim is is Good???

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where can find a built in grille for windows, sliding door etc in malaysia? got anyone used this before ?

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QUOTE(manemaren @ May 11 2012, 09:22 AM)
how to they fix the grille to the window... mine with a small screw drilled at the side of the window.... sometimes it causes the cement to break... at the side... to near to the edge...

I don't think this small screw going to hold the intruder...

How does it done on your houses... pls share...
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they called it, WALLPLUG and screw. my grill, they uses the metal wallplug and metal bolt. no way to unscrew it unless cut off. now i have problem cos i can't take out my grille now.
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QUOTE(jason_chee @ May 17 2012, 05:22 PM)
they called it, WALLPLUG and screw. my grill, they uses the metal wallplug and metal bolt. no way to unscrew it unless cut off. now i have problem cos i can't take out my grille now.
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Can u post a photo of the grill... mine is quite awfully installed..

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QUOTE(manemaren @ May 18 2012, 10:36 AM)
Can u post a photo of the grill... mine is quite awfully installed..
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Hi Manemaren,

Attached is the pic.

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QUOTE(cvshi515 @ May 8 2012, 08:56 AM)
Got my grille and gate from Three Kim. Very satisfied with Ivy's customer service. And I believe their price is very competitive too smile.gif.

From my opinion, the grille is ok, meet my expectation. But the fact is they are responsive to your request. Feel free to give Ivy a call. Which i believe you can get their number in the previous post.
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QUOTE(cengkadad @ May 14 2012, 11:56 AM)
where can find a built in grille for windows, sliding door etc in malaysia? got anyone used this before ?

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Try Meshtec, their product is called Majestec.
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mine 1.6" Mild Steel

for 10' x 2 Hanging Gate = RM 960 each (was quote RM780 for 1.6" frame add RM180 for 2" Frame)
for front door 4' = RM 390
for Back door 3' = RM 280
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I heard there is something called harden aluminium. True?

and does anyone use this harden aluminium for grille, and how
strong is it compare with MS
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Just use a complete solid wrought iron and paint it with powder coat...

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I heard there is something called harden aluminium. True?

and does anyone use this harden aluminium for grille, and how
strong is it compare with MS
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Harden aluminium is just harden the surface. It not alter the structure of the aluminiun itself. Harden aluminium is for stand against the friction and any surface rough contact. If you hammer the aluminium structure, it still will bend like normal.
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Try Meshtec, their product is called Majestec.
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Hi all, my parent's house is 20+ years and need some kind of touch up. I'm planning to paint it + change all the main windows/grills. But I foresee both will be done by different contractors. Please advise which should be done first, painting or replacing the windows/grills? Is there any recommendation for budget painting and windows/grills replacement? The location is PJ. I read some of past posting and read about 3Kim but their location is Kajang.

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Hi all,

After reading through, from what I understand, if do galvanized + powder coat will be better and last longer. Just wondering, if use mild steel + galvanized + powder coat, how to know whether did they actually do galvanized for us or not? Coz after that, will put on powder coat, so won't know whether underneath that powder coat layer izit galvanized or not... anyone knows how to check? Just don't want to kena conned later blush.gif

Also, powder coat means it's not smooth surface but something like orange peel skin surface with a bit of bumps (bumpy surface) right? Hope to get some advice on this... thanks! smile.gif
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QUOTE(cheekily @ Jun 5 2012, 02:21 PM)
Hi all,

After reading through, from what I understand, if do galvanized + powder coat will be better and last longer. Just wondering, if use mild steel + galvanized + powder coat, how to know whether did they actually do galvanized for us or not? Coz after that, will put on powder coat, so won't know whether underneath that powder coat layer izit galvanized or not... anyone knows how to check? Just don't want to kena conned later   blush.gif

Also, powder coat means it's not smooth surface but something like orange peel skin surface with a bit of bumps (bumpy surface) right? Hope to get some advice on this... thanks!  smile.gif
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I bet you can't see the galvanized result as below image since it has been covered by the paint.

user posted image

However, may be you can visit the supplier factory to see how they process the galvanization of steel? blush.gif

Powder coated doesn't mean the surface is rough, it can be smooth surface as well like white color powder coating for Bathroom Bi-Fold door. However, powder coating process ensure that the paint of the surface is last longer & durable compared with normal painting process. smile.gif

Correct me if I'm wrong.

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QUOTE(mhhee @ Jun 5 2012, 02:50 PM)
I bet you can't see the galvanized result as below image since it has been covered by the paint.

However, may be you can visit the supplier factory to see how they process the galvanization of steel?   blush.gif

Powder coated doesn't mean the surface is rough, it can be smooth surface as well like white color powder coating for Bathroom Bi-Fold door. However, powder coating process ensure that the paint of the surface is last longer & durable compared with normal painting process.  smile.gif

Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Thanks for the pic + info... Hmm, guess I'll just have to trust the grill supplier that they galvanized 1st before powder coat the grill, unless I follow them throughout the whole process when they are doing my grills tongue.gif

Ok, so powder coat surface can be smooth... but why izit some powder coat surfaces are a bit rough like orange peel skin? Different ways of processing (longer oven baking time, etc.)?

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QUOTE(cheekily @ Jun 6 2012, 10:57 AM)
Thanks for the pic + info... Hmm, guess I'll just have to trust the grill supplier that they galvanized 1st before powder coat the grill, unless I follow them throughout the whole process when they are doing my grills tongue.gif

Ok, so powder coat surface can be smooth... but why izit some powder coat surfaces are a bit rough like orange peel skin? Different ways of processing (longer oven baking time, etc.)?
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The option of smooth or the orange peel like are given/open to end user choice when grill supplier powder coat their product.
I think its a diffrent coating product. Dunno they use same method or not.
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QUOTE(cheekily @ Jun 6 2012, 10:57 AM)
Thanks for the pic + info... Hmm, guess I'll just have to trust the grill supplier that they galvanized 1st before powder coat the grill, unless I follow them throughout the whole process when they are doing my grills tongue.gif

Ok, so powder coat surface can be smooth... but why izit some powder coat surfaces are a bit rough like orange peel skin? Different ways of processing (longer oven baking time, etc.)?
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No idea how they process it but I guess it depends on color, since darker color mostly orange peel skin & light color is smooth surface. Your choice...
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QUOTE(phoenix69 @ Jun 6 2012, 11:40 AM)
The option of smooth or the orange peel like are given/open to end user choice when grill supplier powder coat their product.
I think its a diffrent coating product. Dunno they use same method or not.
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QUOTE(mhhee @ Jun 6 2012, 01:31 PM)
No idea how they process it but I guess it depends on color, since darker color mostly orange peel skin & light color is smooth surface. Your choice...
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Thanks for sharing, phoenix69 and mhhee... smile.gif
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QUOTE(cengkadad @ May 14 2012, 11:56 AM)
where can find a built in grille for windows, sliding door etc in malaysia? got anyone used this before ?

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This is beautiful. If you know where to get in Klang Valley please let me know too.
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Hi sifus here,

the main entrance of my condo has a wooden structure being part of the partition between my and my heighour's entrance. My question is if i wanna intall grille to my unit, the edge of the grille door will need to be on that wooded structure, will the wooden structure be strong enough to hold the grille for security purpose?

otherwise just waste money on right?

thanks
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for my new house, my friend advise me to use safety and security film instead of using grill. the product call ArmorShield, it is impact resistance and can reject solar heat
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Hi want to ask. What is the pro and cons of using aluminium grille?
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Hi want to ask. What is the pro and cons of using aluminium grille?
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Advantages : Nicer

Disadvantages : very thin and can easily be cut


Hope it helps.
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Hi! Need all your advise here. Recently just quoted for house grille for window at RM9 psf and for sliding door at RM11psf. What you think about this price? Expensive or reasonable?
Please recommend if you have a reliable contractor for grille.
THANKS A LOT!
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QUOTE(pooi_pooi1 @ Jul 21 2012, 06:06 PM)
Material i reckon is Mild Steel with normal paint. What is the metal thickness?
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I felt being cheated. I paid RM4100 for my house grille (small double storey) and was told it's coated solid bar 1cmx1cm. However, after 5months, I see the rust start appearing. And when I knock knock on the bar, I feel like empty bar. How to verify whether it's really a solid bar? sad.gif

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QUOTE(JollySheep @ Jul 25 2012, 10:46 AM)
I felt being cheated. I paid RM4100 for my house grille (small double storey) and was told it's coated solid bar 1cmx1cm. However, after 5months, I see the rust start appearing. And when I knock knock on the bar, I feel like empty bar. How to verify whether it's really a solid bar?  sad.gif
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picture of your grill? dont know how to describe. usually its either hollow or solid bar. if solid you will feel heavy compared to hollow if you do check out his sample. But i think knocking also will determine hollow or solid by listening to the steel echo.
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When I knock on the bar, kong kong kong, I realized it is hollow, though not 100% confirmed. I ever visited another grille supplier and feel the solid bar sample. Thus,, I conclude mine is not solid! I'm planning to confront the supplier. How should I tell them? Sigh...
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QUOTE(JollySheep @ Jul 25 2012, 03:20 PM)
When I knock on the bar, kong kong kong, I realized it is hollow, though not 100% confirmed. I ever visited another grille supplier and feel the solid bar sample. Thus,, I conclude mine is not solid! I'm planning to confront the supplier. How should I tell them? Sigh...
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do you have the quotation stated solid bar? if got black and white you can confront him but make sure you know 100% how to identify between hollow and solid difference if not they will try to 'goreng' you around the world.

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QUOTE(KIntos @ Jul 25 2012, 04:28 PM)
do you have the quotation stated solid bar? if got black and white you can confront him but make sure you know 100% how to identify between hollow and solid difference if not they will try to 'goreng' you around the world.
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when they goreng, you just cut that rusted potion..if hollow they compensate and re-do the entire house grille for you..if its solid you pay for new grille..
if they say rust free even though solid, you pay for that grille that you cut and they pay to rectify the rust for you
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what about invisible grill brand?
i saw  it at houzdepot today... using high tensile wires.. but i think still can be cut... hmm.gif
no picture though... unsure.gif
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Any idea where else can find this Invisible Grill other than from HouzDepot?
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I called the distributor before, I think they have a showroom in Subang.
http://www.invisiblegrille.com/
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Things are so expensive..want to faint..who else has grille contact?
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hi, can any one introduce cheap & good grille contractor in Ipoh?

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hi, i need an affordable grille contractor for my condo at Puchong Jaya

pls recommend.
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Im giving away my house grill.

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Deeds at http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2505675&hl=
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QUOTE(lionfish77 @ Jun 7 2012, 03:44 PM)
This is  beautiful. If you know where to get in Klang Valley please let me know too.
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This is not built in grill. This is called leadlighting. Usually pieces of glass is used to make the whole piece for the window.

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any idea on how to cut my grill's key which stucked at the lockset? i can remove it neither turn it...
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any idea on how to cut my grill's key which stucked at the lockset? i can remove it neither turn it...
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Worst case, change the lock..
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QUOTE(pooi_pooi1 @ Sep 13 2012, 08:28 PM)
After reading the forum here, many recommend Three Kim. But it is located quite far for me.

How about Chuan Li? Anyone use Chuan Li iron grille before? www.chuanli.com.my

Please recommend any good grille supplier in klang? Thanks.
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Three Kim provide good service and fast delivery. I am from Puchong as well smile.gif


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Nowadays rarely see aluminum grills. Nobody use aluminum for grills anymore? Won't rust or need repainting.
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Sep 24 2012, 08:08 PM)
Nowadays rarely see aluminum grills. Nobody use aluminum for grills anymore? Won't rust or need repainting.
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This is due to aluminum is soft and easy to scratch... smile.gif



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can anyone recommend any grille contractor? TQ smile.gif
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any recommened grill + gate supplier?
Need to install some grill and main gate.
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Anyone saw such window bar before here?
Steel , Expandable, Removable, Swing Quick Release Security Bars
http://www.securitywindowbars.com/Window-S...able-swing.html

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Have an appointment with Ivy from 3Kim later after work. Hope everything goes on smoothly! biggrin.gif Glad to find a vendor that's highly recommended from the forum.
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dear shifus,

my contractor told me that there is no sealer/primer required for gross paint ms. If i insist, they will charge more for workmanship. Is that true?

1.2mm ms with primer and gross paint. rm14/sqft. is the price reasonable?
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QUOTE(pooi_pooi1 @ Oct 3 2012, 11:30 PM)
Please share your experience on rough surface and smooth surface powder coat.

Smooth surface:
- easy cleaning & does not collect dust
- if got scratches can paint back DIY
- if paint crack, the paint can peel off??? True or not? sad.gif

Rough surface:
- appearance look tough and durable
- but difficult to clean as it will collect dust
- paint is not easily peel off

Please comment & advice

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Rough surface is the current trend and mainly more durable. As for collect dust, seldom heard of it!
For rough surface, we call it sahara effect and this cost slightly higher then the normal coating smile.gif
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Dear All, need you guys' opinions. Which grill design will u choose if only 2 choices available?
Why white powder coated is more expensive than other colour powder coated? Thanks.




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Dear All, need you guys' opinions. Which grill design will u choose if only 2 choices available?
Why white powder coated is more expensive than other colour powder coated? Thanks.
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Prefer the right side one. The left side one looks very 'auntie'.

Not sure bout the white coated price though.
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Dear All, need you guys' opinions. Which grill design will u choose if only 2 choices available?
Why white powder coated is more expensive than other colour powder coated? Thanks.
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I chose the right side one for windows...and left side one for my main door only..

Reason for choosing right side one is, there are more "bars" attached to the sides, so if they need to cut, i guess they need to cut more pieces ...this is just my opinion... I could be wrong...


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QUOTE(coconutzz @ Oct 9 2012, 12:52 PM)
I chose the right side one for windows...and left side one for my main door only..

Reason for choosing right side one is, there are more "bars" attached to the sides, so if they need to cut, i guess they need to cut more pieces ...this is just my opinion... I could be wrong...
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I also choose the right horizontal one for the same reason. The one on the left, if they really want to break in, they only need to cut 4 bars (2 vertical bars top and bottom) and they can remove the entire 'grille' and just climb in. if it was the horizontal bars, they would need to cut more, thus taking more time...
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But then again, if u have alarm installed, even before they cut any bars..the alarm would have gone off...

so, one more important item is to have alarm installed, though sometimes can be annoying with false alarms...well, just let it blare for a while...at least u will be awake when it goes off rather having awaken by a parang on ur neck

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That happened to my Aunt in shah alam, group of them disarm the alarm and came in in broad daylight, held her with parang on her neck. She was hospitalized for 2 weeks because of the blood lost on the cut on the neck. They threaten her and asked for her children apart from money. This was 8 years ago when my cousin was just 1mth old.

come to think of it, it was really really scary..but grille and alarm is the least we should do, and dog would be good too
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QUOTE(craftsnknots @ Oct 9 2012, 02:47 PM)
That happened to my Aunt in shah alam, group of them disarm the alarm and came in in broad daylight, held her with parang on her neck. She was hospitalized for 2 weeks because of the blood lost on the cut on the neck. They threaten her and asked for her children apart from money. This was 8 years ago when my cousin was just 1mth old.

come to think of it, it was really really scary..but grille and alarm is the least we should do, and dog would be good too
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They managed to disarm the alarm despite not knowing the code? Did the alarm go off?

Nowdays is really bad, even if my alarm goes off, i will let it go until I've checked my house and ensure it's a false alarm....dun really bother if it awakes my neighbours...safety first man..


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QUOTE(awdarr @ Oct 9 2012, 01:13 AM)
Dear All, need you guys' opinions. Which grill design will u choose if only 2 choices available?
Why white powder coated is more expensive than other colour powder coated? Thanks.
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i just wonder on the left picture. seem high floor also still need grill? or malaysia is really really really not safe even if we stay in the cloud?

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QUOTE(coconutzz @ Oct 9 2012, 03:59 PM)
They managed to disarm the alarm despite not knowing the code? Did the alarm go off?

Nowdays is really bad, even if my alarm goes off, i will let it go until I've checked my house and ensure it's a false alarm....dun really bother if it awakes my neighbours...safety first man..
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Yup, they disarm it with some device, police said a few house experienced the same thing. This was in section 11 shah alam about 8 yrs ago..they have 2 alarm,1 for gate 1 for home, imported from germany last time, they disarm the gate with device n the alarm for house was triggered, put parangto her neck n threaten her


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QUOTE(Yamma @ Oct 9 2012, 04:20 PM)
i just wonder on the left picture. seem high floor also still need grill? or malaysia is really really really not safe even if we stay in the cloud?
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I think for condos on high floors the grilles are to protect ppl from falling out the big window kua, like climbing toddlers n small children

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QUOTE(coconutzz @ Oct 9 2012, 11:52 AM)
I chose the right side one for windows...and left side one for my main door only..

Reason for choosing right side one is, there are more "bars" attached to the sides, so if they need to cut, i guess they need to cut more pieces ...this is just my opinion... I could be wrong...
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Security aside, is right side grill in the pic nicer than left side one?
At first glance, I thought so too but the price for left side is surprisingly more expensive than the right side one.


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QUOTE(Shazzac @ Oct 9 2012, 10:59 AM)
Prefer the right side one. The left side one looks very 'auntie'.

Not sure bout the white coated price though.
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Do u mean more old fashioned? smile.gif

So right side is preferred? Then it's not a hard decision as the price is cheaper too (both are white powder coated). I was indecisive because I thought in long run, the right side grill will become boring.



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right side looks simpler and better to me... smile.gif
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Do u mean more old fashioned? smile.gif

So right side is preferred? Then it's not a hard decision as the price is cheaper too (both are white powder coated). I was indecisive because I thought in long run, the right side grill will become boring.
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Not to say old fashioned but it's the kind of design an older person would choose.
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Never mind design like aunty or old people lah laugh.gif your safety is more important.

I also like this aunty-aunty design below, what do you think? Wonder how much to the whole house with these grilles?

http://www.elegance2u.com/enlarge-products.php?prod_id=124

Nowadays, the design is grilles inside, window glass outside. I remember when I was young, the grilles are always outside, window glass inside.

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I prefer the left side, coz my home right now have the same design as the right side and it is abit difficult to open the aluminium window without extra space to manouver. The downside is that it looks kinda old fashioned.
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Can anyone recommend good grille contractor around Rawang.Need to do grille for my house.
Hope can share current price and material also.

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Can anyone recommend good grille contractor around Rawang.Need to do grille for my house.
Hope can share current price and material also.

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Hi all Sifus,

I was charged with the following quote:

1 set sliding 8 X 9 + S/S rail roadway + lock
1 set single door 3 X 9 + lock
1 Single door 3 X 7 (open small door) + lock
12 set galk 230 sft
3 set Emery door

Total RM5100

Was I being overcharged.

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Anybody use Yat Sing Wrought Iron Work in Sg Buloh? Hows their work? I booked them during Perfect Living. Today he came to take measurement and said it need 3 weeks to do as they have a lot of order during the Perfect Living. I do one 13 ft wrought iron gate with auto motor, whole house 22x75 windows mild steel, back door & one skylight all RM8600. Ok ya? rolleyes.gif
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questions on grille. i'm down to 2 types of grille

0.5 and 1 inch grille (hollow inside) vs 6mm grille (full metal)

now, the 0.5-1inch grille most likely is 2 sides wielding, whereby the 6mm grille is full wielding (all 4 sides).

Most of the contractors told me that even 2sides wielding, the 0.5-1inch grille will be harder for the thieves to break it (not cut, more like expand it and break it from the side), compare to the 6mm.

whereby got 1 contractor told me that if the 6mm doing full wielding, then it is harder to break compare to the 0.5-1inch grille.

which one is true?

also, some mentioned that if the grille using car paint, it is more lasting compare to ici. but disadvantage of it is that you will face difficulties when you wanna repaint it many years down the road.

so what do you think?

0.5-1inch grille vs 6mm grille

car paint vs ici paint
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QUOTE(luckykid5 @ Oct 28 2012, 02:28 AM)
questions on grille. i'm down to 2 types of grille

0.5 and 1 inch grille (hollow inside) vs 6mm grille (full metal)

now, the 0.5-1inch grille most likely is 2 sides wielding, whereby the 6mm grille is full wielding (all 4 sides).

Most of the contractors told me that even 2sides wielding, the 0.5-1inch grille will be harder for the thieves to break it (not cut, more like expand it and break it from the side), compare to the 6mm.

whereby got 1 contractor told me that if the 6mm doing full wielding, then it is harder to break compare to the 0.5-1inch grille.

which one is true?

also, some mentioned that if the grille using car paint, it is more lasting compare to ici. but disadvantage of it is that you will face difficulties when you wanna repaint it many years down the road.

so what do you think?

0.5-1inch grille vs 6mm grille

car paint vs ici paint
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Hi, every one.

I got quote for my full house MS (mayb 1.2mm x 25mm) rm10K and if Wrought iron rm14.5K. I think it is expensive. What do you think guys? I calculate the total area is abt 679 sqft. Tq
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Hi, every one.

I got quote for my full house MS (mayb 1.2mm x 25mm) rm10K and if Wrought iron rm14.5K. I think it is expensive. What do you think guys? I calculate the total area is abt 679 sqft. Tq
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It depends on design, powder coated, galvanized, color, etc too.
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May I know standard how much per SQ for windows steel grill?
Is it Rm12 per sq?
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QUOTE(mo66 @ Oct 28 2012, 10:07 PM)
Hi, every one.

I got quote for my full house MS (mayb 1.2mm x 25mm) rm10K and if Wrought iron rm14.5K. I think it is expensive. What do you think guys? I calculate the total area is abt 679 sqft. Tq
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The price inclusive of 3 emergency doors and a special door lock for the main entrance.

If want cheaper can go for MS 6/8" hollow type or the MS 4/8" hollow type.
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May I know standard how much per SQ for windows steel grill?
Is it Rm12 per sq?
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Anyone can recommend grill shop at Taman Bukit Serdang?

Just would like to remove the existing grill at window that installed inside the house thus it actually will block the curtain.

Just want to extend the outside one (currently half of the window) so that I cover the whole window.

So small job can find contractor ?

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Does anyone know the name of the attached balcony grille and the cost? Thank you.


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Does anyone know the name of the attached balcony grille and the cost? Thank you.
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The vertical ones look like invisible grill
http://www.invisiblegrille.com/
They aren't meant to keep thieves out but just safety for children and pets
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The vertical ones look like invisible grill
http://www.invisiblegrille.com/
They aren't meant to keep thieves out but just safety for children and pets
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Does anyone know the cost for invisible grille?

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QUOTE(icekelvin @ Nov 20 2012, 10:18 AM)
Thanks.

Does anyone know the cost for invisible grille?

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My double story intermediate about rm 35k. Decided to use normal powder coated grille

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Hi, got one contractor tell me that the powder coated grill is around rm 40 per sqft.

Is it expensive?
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Hi, got one contractor tell me that the powder coated grill is around rm 40 per sqft.

Is it expensive?
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what is powder coated grill?
Is that those which wont rusty one?
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Power coated is just a layer of paint and it will still rusty. If want to avoid rusty, go for galvanized.

RM40 psf is very expensive. Normally they will top up RM2-3 for each sqft if you need to do powder coated. If the grill cost is RM10 then powder coated will be RM12.

Try contact ThreeKim. Search "Kenment Teow Chee Seong" in FB will do. Can get free quotation and good service.
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QUOTE(xerox1234 @ Nov 26 2012, 03:10 PM)
Power coated is just a layer of paint and it will still rusty. If want to avoid rusty, go for galvanized.

RM40 psf is very expensive. Normally they will top up RM2-3 for each sqft if you need to do powder coated. If the grill cost is RM10 then powder coated will be RM12. 

Try contact ThreeKim. Search "Kenment Teow Chee Seong" in FB will do. Can get free quotation and good service.
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how about workmanship?? good?? u try b4?
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how about workmanship?? good?? u try b4?
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Workmanship is good and good after sales service. Yes my current house's grill + main gate were installed by them, love it smile.gif
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how about workmanship?? good?? u try b4?
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Anyone heard of galvanized spray which is sold in can? I tried to find this but so far not found in 3 hardware shops. My newly installed grill is releasing some rusty liquid at the joint L-shape section. It only happens to certain joints, not all. Thinking to spray with galvanized spray n then touch up with bit of paint to prevent the rusty liquid from coming out.

Any other recommended options n where to get this galvanized spray? Thanks.


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QUOTE(jovial @ Nov 19 2012, 07:51 PM)
The vertical ones look like invisible grill
http://www.invisiblegrille.com/
They aren't meant to keep thieves out but just safety for children and pets
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Still can see very clear leh. Not so invisible I supposed.


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My double story intermediate about rm 35k. Decided to use normal powder coated grille
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U mean the cost to install invisble grill is 35k for intermediate? That is super expensive!

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For a double storey end-lot house 18 x 65 - whole galvanised MS grilles for windows, main entrance door and gate, may I know roughly how much to budget for? Is RM18k enough?
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Anyone heard of galvanized spray which is sold in can? I tried to find this but so far not found in 3 hardware shops. My newly installed grill is releasing some rusty liquid at the joint L-shape section. It only happens to certain joints, not all. Thinking to spray with galvanized spray n then touch up with bit of paint to prevent the rusty liquid from coming out.

Any other recommended options n where to get this galvanized spray? Thanks.
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I did mine in mlk, slightly pricy but quality turn out very satisfied biggrin.gif
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I live in melaka..what is the price per sqft you got for yr house grills?
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they called it, WALLPLUG and screw. my grill, they uses the metal wallplug and metal bolt. no way to unscrew it unless cut off. now i have problem cos i can't take out my grille now.
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grill should hav angle bar or not?
some contractor said angle bar is not good..some said good...

any advise?
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i've read some Comments on grille installation works,n most say "Good n neat installation done by xxx".I'd just like to know wad does that mean?I don't think there's a messily installed grille-juz involves sCrewing in an already shaped 'iron bar frame' rite.
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i've read some Comments on grille installation works,n most say "Good n neat installation done by xxx".I'd just like to know wad does that mean?I don't think there's a messily installed grille-juz involves sCrewing in an already shaped 'iron bar frame' rite.
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there is different.....xxx workmanship really good and neat and can see the different between my neighbour grille and mine.....u will love it. all my fren oso said nice. fyi i live in condo so we all have to follow same design on our grille.....xxx is the best at the moment.... biggrin.gif
their powder coated is nicer and i upgrade grille frame so cant see the uneven workmanship by developer and they put silicon too....dont see most grille has it...
i will try to take few neigbour grille for u to see when i free ah...haha.....
price for my condo a few hundred extra shocking.gif but worth it.....

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QUOTE(Pennbattle @ Mar 6 2013, 01:27 AM)
there is different.....xxx workmanship really good and neat and can see the different between my neighbour grille and mine.....u will love it. all my fren oso said nice. fyi i live in condo so we all have to follow same design on our grille.....xxx is the best at the moment.... biggrin.gif
their powder coated is nicer and i upgrade grille frame so cant see the uneven workmanship by developer and they put silicon too....dont see most grille has it...
i will try to take few neigbour grille for u to see when i free ah...haha.....
price for my condo a few hundred extra  shocking.gif  but worth it.....
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Hi all.. I'd like to know if anyone can give me a rough estimate/quotation for main gate. Pls refer to attached pic.

I'd like to hack the concrete post & trash and replace the original main gate (~9x5') with wider main gate (~12x5'). Means no more post&trash box there.. Gate material-cheapest one.. haha.. I got vry low budget. sweat.gif

Location is at sec 30 shah alam.

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QUOTE(Pennbattle @ Mar 6 2013, 01:27 AM)
there is different.....xxx workmanship really good and neat and can see the different between my neighbour grille and mine.....u will love it. all my fren oso said nice. fyi i live in condo so we all have to follow same design on our grille.....xxx is the best at the moment.... biggrin.gif
their powder coated is nicer and i upgrade grille frame so cant see the uneven workmanship by developer and they put silicon too....dont see most grille has it...
i will try to take few neigbour grille for u to see when i free ah...haha.....
price for my condo a few hundred extra  shocking.gif  but worth it.....
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May I know the contact for grille? My condo is in KL. Thanks in advance ~~
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OMG so flexible..so we shud sleep with windows shut tight n air connd on?imagine d electricity bill tho
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Don't choose grille with big gaps lor....and put stuff near the window..so if he wants to come in pun terlanggar something...that should wake you up
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yea i guess that's d solution..cant bellieve thieves also are acrobats now
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May i know what different galvanized spray & powder coated? Normally how much per square feet? Please advise. Thanks
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Hi, i've been quote for rm15k for a double storey house.
3" ms for the gate + import motor
1" ms for the window grill

Any expert can tell me whether this price is reasonable? And, the design the constructor showed me is not favorable. The window grill is so thin, but they said i need to top up if i want a thicker one, so im still considering.

Thanks in advance for all the reply. Tq:)
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Naing,

You might want to consider them too.....

   
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Mild Steel c/w Powder Coatings = RM 10.50 per sg/ft.

Their service is really pro and did their best to serve their customer well. You can mention my name; Andrew to try your luck for best price.
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I was wondering what' the market price now for MS w powder coatings?

I was quoted for 380sq for the price of 5900 without powder coating. Is it a reasonable pricing? Thanks sifu. notworthy.gif

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Good question. I would like to know too. Please advise here. Thanks

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I was wondering what' the market price now for MS w powder coatings?
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anyone installed d invincible grille,any reviews?
http://www.invisiblegrille.com/
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anyone installed d invincible grille,any reviews?
http://www.invisiblegrille.com/
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anyone installed d invincible grille,any reviews?
http://www.invisiblegrille.com/
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This one is only useful for preventing kids from falling out of high-rise windows and balconies. The wires can be cut easily by robbers.
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does anyone have any pics of grill windows/doors that can lead or open out to enter the balcony ?

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QUOTE(BTimes @ Apr 29 2013, 09:36 AM)
This one is only useful for preventing kids from falling out of high-rise windows and balconies.  The wires can be cut easily by robbers.
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the ad somemore say its very secure...hrmm i guess d regular grilles do a better job at keeping trespassers out
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QUOTE(~Curious~ @ Apr 29 2013, 05:57 PM)
the ad somemore say its very secure...hrmm i guess d regular grilles do a better job at keeping trespassers out
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Definitely not secure against robbers. My relative has installed one at the balcony and the wires can be easily cut. The purpose of making them invisible is to allow the residences to enjoy the view at the high rise balcony yet prevent kids from falling out from the balcony.
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QUOTE(BTimes @ Apr 30 2013, 09:22 AM)
Definitely not secure against robbers. My relative has installed one at the balcony and the wires can be easily cut.  The purpose of making them invisible is to allow the residences to enjoy the view at the high rise balcony yet prevent kids from falling out from the balcony.
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yeah d wires look quite thin in d pic of d ad,but i tot it was mmade of some strong alloy mah so shud be hard to cut hehe
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Another quotation i get.

Mild Steel door & window grilles c/w powder coated.

Door grille (Frame: 1” x 2”, Outer Frame: 1” x 1”, Infill ½” x ½” solid bar)

1) Mild Steel Door Grille 3' x 7' = RM567

Door grille (Frame: 3/4” x 3/4”, Infill ½” x ½” solid bar)

2) Mild Steel Window Grille

a) 6' x 4' (Living Hall) = RM528

b) 2' x 4' (Living Hall) = RM176

c) 4' x 4' (Kitchen) = RM352

d) 4' x 2' (Kitchen Bathroom) = RM176

e) 6' x 4' (Master Bedroom) = RM528

f) 2' x 2' (Master Bedroom Bathroom) = RM88

g) 4' x 4' (2nd Bedroom) = RM352

e) 2.5' x 2' (2nd Bedroom Bathroom) = RM110

2) Swing Aluminum Gate as attachment size 10' (W) x 6' (H) with powder coated

Mono = RM2,850
Auto system = RM1,500 (OAE Brand)
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my house done by threekim..recommended!!
about 10 people came to install my grille..less than 2 hour job finished dy...
very impressed..grille finishing very smooth, everyone saw my grille will give me thumbs up hehe
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Please show me your grille. Thanks

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my house done by threekim..recommended!!
about 10 people came to install my grille..less than 2 hour job finished dy...
very impressed..grille finishing very smooth, everyone saw my grille will give me thumbs up hehe
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anyone installed d invincible grille,any reviews?
http://www.invisiblegrille.com/
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Hi all, besides invisblegrille.com, is there any one else selling similar product? Tx.
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QUOTE(ketiak_masyam @ May 2 2013, 11:47 AM)
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pm me the contractor.. which area?
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are you using mild steel?

QUOTE(ketiak_masyam @ May 2 2013, 11:47 AM)
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QUOTE(nevland @ May 2 2013, 02:48 PM)
pm me the contractor.. which area?
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if threekim you can search at fb... if not mistaken they are in kajang area...
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powder coated mild steel, this design rm12/sqft for door and rm10/sqft for window...skirting add rm1/sqft
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QUOTE(ketiak_masyam @ May 2 2013, 03:48 PM)
powder coated mild steel, this design rm12/sqft for door and rm10/sqft for window...skirting add rm1/sqft
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Sorry I don't know about grille... what is skirting?
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with skirting you can't see any gap left (Angle Bar grille frame mix with silicon) + more secure

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QUOTE(ketiak_masyam @ May 2 2013, 04:05 PM)
with skirting you can't see any gap left (Angle Bar grille frame mix with silicon) + more secure
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any picture of the skirting?

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You get quotation mild steel powder coating RM12 psf & window RM10 psf?

QUOTE(ketiak_masyam @ May 2 2013, 03:48 PM)
powder coated mild steel, this design rm12/sqft for door and rm10/sqft for window...skirting add rm1/sqft
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sorry, forgot to tell powder coating add rm2.50
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Anybody knows any grill contractor in Rawang area? Thanks
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Anybody knows any grill contractor in Rawang area?  Thanks
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You can try check with this guy... https://www.facebook.com/threekimmetalworks?fref=ts

He's from Three Kim in Kajang... but can do installation at Rawang... without extra charges on delivery and installation if I'm not mistaken... but please reconfirm again with him...
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yes...my house also rawang/selayang area hehe
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hi.. may i know any company that can help repair / refix my grill mounting.. not strong enough..

the bracket only use small metal pieces not strong enough i think..

kinda worry for next few month.. festive season..
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hi..can anyone suggest me the grill man around shah alam... house still undergo for renovation..now pending plaster ceiling and grill...
measurement in ft (roughly)
main door 4.3 x 6.11
sliding 6.11 x 6.11
kc door 3x6
window 1.5x4.11
window 2x1.1
window 4x6
window 8x7.9

since shah alam nowadays targetted for buglar need to padlock cover to be thick enough to troublesome the thief...

hehehehe anyway please suggest the best for safety also...
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i think muz install grille behind ur glass sliding doors n stuff..tht way more difficult for intruder to cut d lock
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Hi all, I would like to install invisble grille for my condo. Anyone here can give me a contact pls? Tx.
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Hi.. Looks like everyone here recommend threekim for house grille? Can they do at puncak alam as well?

Or any recommendation for grille contractor in puncak alam area??

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how to grille those multi-folding doors?
for good security i don't think getting a folding grille on d inside is a good idea.
further more i dowan to be always opening my grille just to open my multifolding sliding doors.
i was thinking to get some horizontally lined grilles for it,but are there options i have not thought about?
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QUOTE(ketiak_masyam @ May 2 2013, 05:25 PM)
sorry, forgot to tell powder coating add rm2.50
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this include sandblasting, grinding and remove oil\grese service or not hmm.gif
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Any contact for grill works in Penang? I mean cheaper price than what I have offered?
One guy in paya terubong offering mild steel 3/4 inches
with powder coat RM 20 for door, RM 15 for windows ( sqft)
With paint RM 16 for door , RM 12 for windows, n also charging extra RM20 for each locks if the window grill comes with open type.

Price seems like cut throat, any recommendations? My loc is balik pulau. Thnx if any of u have done cheaper powder coat grill pls send me the contact. Thnx

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QUOTE(exkaizen @ May 2 2013, 08:47 PM)
You can try check with this guy... https://www.facebook.com/threekimmetalworks?fref=ts

He's from Three Kim in Kajang... but can do installation at Rawang... without extra charges on delivery and installation if I'm not mistaken... but please reconfirm again with him...
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I also recommend this guy. He done my few units, price reasonable and reliable. Responsible guy and with strong sense of humour


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I wish to recommend my grille contractor that based in Bukit Puchong, Uncle Jeff (019-6106030). Although initially there were some problems with the powder coating, but he willing to take back and recoat without additional charge. The price might be slightly at the high side, but the material and workmanship that he offers definitely value for money!

Highly recommended!!
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QUOTE(*CG* @ Jun 22 2013, 04:27 PM)
I wish to recommend my grille contractor that based in Bukit Puchong, Uncle Jeff (019-6106030). Although initially there were some problems with the powder coating, but he willing to take back and recoat without additional charge. The price might be slightly at the high side, but the material and workmanship that he offers definitely value for money!

Highly recommended!!
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powder coating got wad problem?
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QUOTE(mav_850 @ Jun 14 2013, 11:01 PM)
this include sandblasting, grinding and remove oil\grese service or not  hmm.gif
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what is sandblasting?
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powder coating got wad problem?
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Understand from my contractor, the workshop that he engaged for powder coat had missed out a step to apply a layer of chemical before coating which can give better protection against rusting in future.
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what is sandblasting?
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before powder coating that grill.. some workshop do sandblasting for powdercoat last long..

some workshop didnt do sandblasting, powdercoat will terkopak after few years whistling.gif ( will .....but not easily terkopak la)
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Understand from my contractor, the workshop that he engaged for powder coat had missed out a step to apply a layer of chemical before coating which can give better protection against rusting in future.
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owh i see...

QUOTE(mav_850 @ Jun 23 2013, 11:23 AM)
before powder coating that grill.. some workshop do sandblasting for powdercoat last long..

some workshop didnt do sandblasting, powdercoat will terkopak after few years  whistling.gif ( will .....but not easily terkopak la)
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how to tell if a particular powder-coated steel has been sandblasted or not?btw if powder-coat ady,then no need the hot dip galvanizing izzit?n powder coat only apply for mild steel?wrought iron and aluminium no need?
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QUOTE(~Curious~ @ Jun 23 2013, 02:10 PM)
owh i see...
how to tell if a particular powder-coated steel has been sandblasted or not?btw if powder-coat ady,then no need the hot dip galvanizing izzit?n powder coat only apply for mild steel?wrought iron and aluminium no need?
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sandblast or not sandblast.. after powdercoat almost no diff.. blush.gif sandblast work like (undercoat layer for paint)
powdercoating is final process.. how come to hot dip after powdercoat applied... rclxub.gif
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thanks mav_850
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so the conclusion are?

QUOTE(mav_850 @ Jun 23 2013, 03:31 PM)
sandblast or not sandblast.. after powdercoat almost no diff..  blush.gif sandblast work like (undercoat layer for paint)
powdercoating is final process.. how come to hot dip after powdercoat applied...  rclxub.gif
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Sand blast as far as i know is to clean the metal surface and make sure its even... No dent or anything..

Steps normally are

1.sand blast
2.hot dip
3.undercoat
4.powdercoat
5.oven bake
6.protective coating
7.oven dry..

This so far what i've seen in a powder coat factory..

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I think not all contractor will follow step by step. If all follow like this their sales will be late.


QUOTE(Johnnie23 @ Jun 24 2013, 12:51 PM)
Sand blast as far as i know is to clean the metal surface and make sure its even... No dent or anything..

Steps normally are

1.sand blast
2.hot dip
3.undercoat
4.powdercoat
5.oven bake
6.protective coating
7.oven dry..

This so far what i've seen in a powder coat factory..
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so then how to tell if a grille is good n worth the money?
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Again... As far as I know... Most grill shop dont do the powder coating themselves. As powder Coating oven and machine can be quote costly. Unless cut corner lah (cut down the steps). It will take people like us (Grill Shop) 10 years or so just to breakeven on the cost of the machines.

With nowadays margin is getting thinner, no point for us to invest in the machines. So we all send to powder coat factory for the painting works if customer opt for powder coat paint.

~Curious~ ... how to tell? hahaha.... if u feel good then worth the money i guess... dunno how to answer you. Other than that is the workmanship lah..


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Do you have do angle bar too?

QUOTE(Johnnie23 @ Jun 24 2013, 10:22 PM)
Again... As far as I know... Most grill shop dont do the powder coating themselves. As powder Coating oven and machine can be quote costly. Unless cut corner lah (cut down the steps). It will take people like us (Grill Shop) 10 years or so just to breakeven on the cost of the machines.

With nowadays margin is getting thinner, no point for us to invest in the machines. So we all send to powder coat factory for the painting works if customer opt for powder coat paint.

~Curious~ ... how to tell? hahaha.... if u feel good then worth the money i guess... dunno how to answer you. Other than that is the workmanship lah..
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Angle bar? U mean?
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Yes r. Angle Bar. Cover the hole between wall & mild steel.

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Angle bar? U mean?
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petlu28 got pic?
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From my attachment you can see different if have angle bar & without angle bar.


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not really different from d front,but i think i get wad u mean
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Ahhhh...ic.. That depends on installation method.. Need to view site... Sometimes need somtimes dont.. And sometimes owner request to have that..
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QUOTE(Johnnie23 @ Jun 26 2013, 12:16 AM)
Ahhhh...ic.. That depends on installation method.. Need to view site... Sometimes need somtimes dont.. And sometimes owner request to have that..
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does it really make d grille more secure?
what do you mean it depends on installation method?
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It does in a way make ut more secure in some way and the detailing make it look nicer.. But like i said it depends on client request and pricing add a bit more..

1. Now we go back to installation method also.. Screw from side then it makes it more secure.. Hard to explain in theory.. Senang sikit to explain hands on.. Haha

2. Detailing look nicer bcoz most of the times, windows are now perfectly rectangular or square.. But metal wielding to shape normally 99% perfect square.. So when install without the angle bar, u can see the unevenness... If got angle bar all these will be covered.. So not visible.. Hence detailing nicer..
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Any grill contractor in puchong?
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I wish to recommend my grille contractor that based in Bukit Puchong, Uncle Jeff (019-6106030). Although initially there were some problems with the powder coating, but he willing to take back and recoat without additional charge. The price might be slightly at the high side, but the material and workmanship that he offers definitely value for money!

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See my previous post.
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Hi

Is there any other supplier for the Invisible Grille by Bright Future in USJ One? Seems to be expensive, thinking of getting 2nd quote
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hi guys..anyone know wad are grille features for security i shud ask for when purchasing grilles.
some ppl i talked to mention "sat sam" is more secure-cantonese to english it literally means solid not the hollow steel bars...got such thing?even if got does it actually hinder intruders from sabotaging the grille n entering the hse?
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Do we still need to paint it after apply powder coat?
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Hi, may i knw how much to grille a whole double storey terrace house?
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Hi, may i knw how much to grille a whole double storey terrace house?
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I did mine (cluster semi-D) for $6100 with "wrought" iron for all doors, windows and outside power supply box. Quality so-so.

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