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TShtkaki
post Dec 18 2009, 05:58 PM, updated 14y ago

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Wow.... V2.0 liao rclxms.gif thumbup.gif

Owners :

PB13-Ultra

Sound & Vision 2008 Editors' Choice Award (MTS-01 system including PB13-Ultra)

The review :
a. http://www.stereophile.com/subwoofers/808svs/index.html
b. Awarded 'Sound and Vision : Certified and Recommended' http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/speakers/...ker-system.html
c. Best High-End Subwoofer Under US$2,000 http://www.bestcovery.com/svs-pb13-ultra?whybest=1&best=9457
d. Winner of 'Best Recommended' in Taiwan Prime AV August 2009
e. Taiwan's Prime AV Award 2010 for best subwoofer

1. htkaki
2. jchong
3. pratt
4. cwyan (DSP)
5. AlamakLor

PC13-Ultra

The review :
a. Awarded 'Reference Status' By HCC http://www.homecinemachoice.com/node/7150
b. http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/svs...versus-new.html
c. Awarded 'Best Bargain High Performance Subwoofer' http://www.bestcovery.com/svs-pc-ultra-sub...st=1&best=13897

1. Saprozeldo
2. arj
3. kiam
4. mys_terious
5. nyquil


PB12-Plus

S&V 2009 Editors' Choice Award :
http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/features/...cont-page4.html

The review :
a. “…the PB12-Plus delivered perhaps the most detailed, subtle performance of all these subs.” - Brent Butterworth, Sound and Vision Magazine, September 09
b. http://www.bestcovery.com/svs-pb12-plus-po...est=2&best=9580


1. bryanlee
2. yonggoh
3. dirtrun
4. geforce1999
5. easternred
6. hokiman (DSP)



PC12-Plus

The review :
http://www.hometheatersound.com/equipment/svs_pc12_plus.htm


1. mpyw
2. eye
3. lightning69
4. maja_5365
5. mikapoh
6. tolorati
7. syrius


PB12-NSD

The review :
1. http://svsound.com/Reviews/2006-12_S&V_Rev...SBS-01-PB12.pdf
2. Highly recommended in Taiwan Prime AV magazine Dec 2009 issue

1. ckyongs
2. jmdibr
3. Boon3
4. jiauboy
5. ycs
6. elmer
7. knee_drag2002
8. simonst
9. gigco04
10. chewkl
11. DannyOP
12. echoesian


PC12-NSD

1. hian
2. jwyj (2 units)
3. pissmad
4. nadky
5. Reix
6. HornyAngMoh
7. klimal (2 units)
8. jediknight8820
9. wkw7889
10. GreyAero
11. wackojacko
12. Yangon
13. bluehippy


PB10-NSD

1. s6xs9x



PC20-39Plus

1. csloo2002
2. callmevil
3. Jack28HT


SB12-NSD
1. hokiman
2. Kiding



AS-EQ1

The review :
http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/acousti...s-as-eq1-sub-eq

1. bryanlee
2. hsiengloong
3. anfieldude
4. pierreye

SCS-01

1. streetkid
2. rx330

SBS-01
1. rx330

The previous thread : http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/824330

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post Dec 18 2009, 06:07 PM

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Congrat on V2.0! cool2.gif Hmm...that AS-EQ1 does look interesting... smile.gif
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post Dec 18 2009, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Dec 18 2009, 05:58 PM)
Wow.... V2.0 liao  rclxms.gif  thumbup.gif

Onwers :

PB13-Ultra
The review :
a. http://www.stereophile.com/subwoofers/808svs/index.html
b. http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/speakers/...ker-system.html
c. Highly Recommended in Taiwan Prime AV August 2009

1. htkaki
2. ronaldjoe
PC13-Ultra

The review :
a. http://www.homecinemachoice.com/node/7150
b. http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/svs...versus-new.html

1. Saprozeldo
2. arj
3. kiam
PB12-Plus

The review :
“…the PB12-Plus delivered perhaps the most detailed, subtle performance of all these subs.” - Brent Butterworth, Sound and Vision Magazine, September 09

1. bryanlee
2. yonggoh
3. dirtrun
4. geforce1999
PC12-Plus

The review :
http://www.hometheatersound.com/equipment/svs_pc12_plus.htm
1. mpyw
2. eye
3. lightning69
PB12-NSD

The review :
1. http://svsound.com/Reviews/2006-12_S&V_Rev...SBS-01-PB12.pdf
2. Highly recommended in Taiwan Prime AV magazine Dec 2009 issue

1. ckyongs
2. jmdibr
PC12-NSD

1. hian
PC20-39Plus

1. csloo2002
2. callmevil
3. Jack28HT
AS-EQ1

The review :
http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/acousti...s-as-eq1-sub-eq

1. bryanlee
2. hsiengloong
The previous thread : http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/824330
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congrats in ver 2 thumbup.gif
already updated the owner list nod.gif
TShtkaki
post Dec 18 2009, 10:35 PM

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I have just updated the list.

Anyone else being left out? Do let me know
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post Dec 19 2009, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Dec 18 2009, 05:58 PM)
Owners :

PB13-Ultra

The review :
a. http://www.stereophile.com/subwoofers/808svs/index.html
b. Awarded 'Sound and Vision : Certified and Recommended' http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/speakers/...ker-system.html
c. Best High-End Subwoofer Under US$2,000 http://www.bestcovery.com/svs-pb13-ultra?whybest=1&best=9457
d. Winner of 'Best Recommended' in Taiwan Prime AV August 2009

1. htkaki
2. mys_terious
3. ronaldjoe (coming soon)
Congrats on V2.

Umm... is mys_terious PB13 or PC13?
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post Dec 19 2009, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(jchong @ Dec 19 2009, 09:49 AM)
Congrats on V2.

Umm... is mys_terious PB13 or PC13?
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Ain't very sure.
He is getting subdude from me.
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post Dec 19 2009, 10:02 AM

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mys_terious is just being...mysterious brows.gif

htkaki, shd know cos he's got the owner's list.

so many got big subs...would like to listen to pb13-ultra one day
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post Dec 19 2009, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(jchong @ Dec 19 2009, 09:49 AM)
Congrats on V2.

Umm... is mys_terious PB13 or PC13?
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post Dec 19 2009, 10:21 AM

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paiseh... couldn't retrieve the data. Dunno where it is.

Have to Pm him and ask. Probably it is PC.

ycs, you are welcome to test whenever you are free.
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post Dec 21 2009, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Dec 18 2009, 10:35 PM)
I have just updated the list.

Anyone else being left out? Do let me know
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Thanks bro the the update list.
Havent engaged long time in this forum and I see lot of members upgrading.
Still waiting for u though to listen to my set up when u free.
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post Dec 21 2009, 02:38 PM

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Bro,

Normally what time is ok for you? Weekend will be difficult for me since I have already arranged appointments til end Dec.

I think weekdays esp afternoon would be good but not this week. Jan would be a bz month for me.
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Dec 21 2009, 02:38 PM)
Bro,

Normally what time is ok for you? Weekend will be difficult for me since I have already arranged appointments til end Dec.

I think weekdays esp afternoon would be good but not this week. Jan would be a bz month for me.
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Next week weekdays noon is fine. Just tell me when u free.
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post Dec 26 2009, 11:20 PM

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been a while since we last have any FR graph.

This is mine - SW - SVS PC13u

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post Dec 27 2009, 02:16 AM

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Please set the trim level (-1.5) at your avr. Then, use the RS spl meter to create another Fr graph for comparison. Tq.
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post Dec 27 2009, 08:41 AM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Dec 27 2009, 02:16 AM)
Please set the trim level (-1.5) at your avr. Then, use the RS spl meter to create another Fr graph for comparison. Tq.
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Sorry, don't understand this part. You mean manually plot a graph using the RS SPL meter and test tones, to compare vs EQ1 graph?

Also, any idea why EQ1 starts to roll off around 24-25 Hz?
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post Dec 27 2009, 10:25 AM

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Yes, to compare with EQ1 graph.

There is something missing in the graph. It should roll-off later.

Kiam, did you follow the steps of the sub setting prior to the EQ1 calibration. For EQ1 s/w, there is an option for Auto EQ. If your avr has Auto EQ, then you need to select 'On'.

Oh yes, I thought that you do not have a tall tripod to put it up at listening level. Or you 'modified' your mini tripod to get it at ear height.

Did you follow these prior to the calibration:

1. Ensure the Gain on your subwoofer(s) plate amp is set to the middle of its range as a starting point.

2. Set the Phase control of your subwoofer(s) to 0 (the AS-EQ1 will adjust each subwoofer to ensure proper phase alignment).

3. Bypass the subwoofer’s built-in low pass filter (often referred to as a ‘crossover’) with the defeat switch or by connecting to an unfiltered input (typically labeled “Direct”, “LFE”, or “THX”). If it is not possible to
bypass the low pass filter, set the filter control to its highest frequency setting.
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post Dec 27 2009, 11:15 AM

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tis graph is b4 or after? Why yoyo so much?
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Black line is before, red line is after.
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SBS-01 serving some music.
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With the "PC-14 Ultimate" at the back to do the job for the bass in my room. tongue.gif
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post Dec 27 2009, 07:24 PM

hmm...
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SBS-01 serving some music.
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With the "PC-14 Ultimate" at the back to do the job for the bass in my room.  tongue.gif
Hahahahaha... laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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I like your PC14 bass trap biggrin.gif
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Fuyooo..... prototype PC.


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post Dec 28 2009, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Dec 27 2009, 10:25 AM)
Yes, to compare with EQ1 graph.

There is something missing in the graph. It should roll-off later.

Kiam, did you follow the steps of the sub setting prior to the EQ1 calibration. For EQ1 s/w, there is an option for Auto EQ. If your avr has Auto EQ, then you need to select 'On'.

Oh yes, I thought that you do not have a tall tripod to put it up at listening level. Or you 'modified' your mini tripod to get it at ear height.

Did you follow these prior to the calibration:

1. Ensure the Gain on your subwoofer(s) plate amp is set to the middle of its range as a starting point.

2. Set the Phase control of your subwoofer(s) to 0 (the AS-EQ1 will adjust each subwoofer to ensure proper phase alignment).

3. Bypass the subwoofer’s built-in low pass filter (often referred to as a ‘crossover’) with the defeat switch or by connecting to an unfiltered input (typically labeled “Direct”, “LFE”, or “THX”). If it is not possible to
bypass the low pass filter, set the filter control to its highest frequency setting.
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boss, ya...dont have the tall tripod. Will only able to rerun things coming newyear weekend. Just did a quick setup by stacking a few things to bring the mini tripod to ear height.

now in pg. waiting for ront88 boss to bring me go eat prawn mee too biggrin.gif
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This ronnt sibeh keng chow in PR.

Btw, haven't seen anfieldude popping up here lately.

Now listering (ooppss.... too much of our Boom Boom friend) to Mariah Carey CD. The MTS-01 starting to get 'loosen up'. I am enjoying it more now.

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when wanna go for prawn mee? tongue.gif

bro anfieldude just got his 60" christmas present so he must be real busy with his new toy whistling.gif
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FUYOOO!!!!! KRP-600! Now, that's really SOMETHING thumbup.gif

Ok, have to check flight to PG liao.
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saw one at ikano that day.. damn cun thumbup.gif

envy anfieldude so much.. but he already said it's a little small whistling.gif

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FHD pj is the way to go thumbup.gif

Due to financial constraint, I have to continue using my 'cheapo' HD65 sad.gif
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post Dec 29 2009, 12:03 AM

hmm...
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Dec 28 2009, 11:16 PM)
FHD pj is the way to go  thumbup.gif
yeah man... 120" image at 2.35:1 .. dem chun.. if got curve screen lagi chun! thumbup.gif
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post Dec 29 2009, 08:57 AM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Dec 28 2009, 10:12 PM)
This ronnt sibeh keng chow in PR.

Btw, haven't seen anfieldude popping up here lately.

Now listering (ooppss.... too much of our Boom Boom friend) to Mariah Carey CD. The MTS-01 starting to get 'loosen up'. I am enjoying it more now.
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Been quite busy lately guys....Re-setup my AV system, the KRP (only 14hrs on it now) last weekend. Not done Audyssey as yet...need to go check out the XPA3. Watched some sports on Astro HD, pretty darned good.

Need to move around my speakers and sub as the room accoustics has changed a little. Need to spend some time setting up the rest this weekend. Then some FR curves to go. Hopefully, if the AS-EQ1 is up north, can do some checks with it as well...

I think it will take another 3 weeks to complete setup. Then need to calibrate the KRPs to ISFccc.
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Dec 29 2009, 08:57 AM)
Been quite busy lately guys....Re-setup my AV system, the KRP (only 14hrs on it now) last weekend. Not done Audyssey as yet...need to go check out the XPA3. Watched some sports on Astro HD, pretty darned good.

Need to move around my speakers and sub as the room accoustics has changed a little. Need to spend some time setting up the rest this weekend. Then some FR curves to go. Hopefully, if the AS-EQ1 is up north, can do some checks with it as well...

I think it will take another 3 weeks to complete setup. Then need to calibrate the KRPs to ISFccc.
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post some picture of your setup bro rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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AS-EQ1 is with kiam now. Once he had tested it, he'll bring to PG for you.


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The Jan 2010 issue of PrimeAV have review for SVS MTS-01 5.1 setup....

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Boss, have you got this copy? What's the result of the review? hmm.gif

Sound & Vision September 2009. SVS PB12-Plus won the '6 subwoofers head-to-head tests'

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post Jan 7 2010, 02:32 PM

hmm...
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first time up close n personal with pc13u last nite. all i can say is when properly tuned this thing really a beast as per claimed. now i heard the low rumble of die hard 4 tunnel scene which my sub can't produce sweat.gif

next need to listen to pc12+ whistling.gif
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QUOTE(arremie @ Jan 7 2010, 02:32 PM)
first time up close n personal with pc13u last nite. all i can say is when properly tuned this thing really a beast as per claimed. now i heard the low rumble of die hard 4 tunnel scene which my sub can't produce sweat.gif

next need to listen to pc12+ whistling.gif
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then next would be the upgraditis virus laugh.gif
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QUOTE(arremie @ Jan 7 2010, 02:32 PM)
first time up close n personal with pc13u last nite. all i can say is when properly tuned this thing really a beast as per claimed. now i heard the low rumble of die hard 4 tunnel scene which my sub can't produce sweat.gif
next need to listen to pc12+ whistling.gif
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Welcome to the gang! no need to listen anymore larh. Just get one and admire in you own living premise.

QUOTE(ronnt88 @ Jan 7 2010, 02:41 PM)
then next would be the upgraditis virus laugh.gif
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no worries, he's got the virus in him all these while. practically it's in his genes.
hey bro lets run some practice together in mw2.
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post Jan 7 2010, 04:42 PM

hmm...
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QUOTE(s6xs9x @ Jan 7 2010, 04:08 PM)
Welcome to the gang! no need to listen anymore larh. Just get one and admire in you own living premise.
no worries, he's got the virus in him all these while. practically it's in his genes.
hey bro lets run some practice together in mw2.
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pc13u too big la dont think my hm will approve. so i need to listen to pc12+ first.

i wonder who will be kind enuf to let me do that whistling.gif
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may i self invite myself too for the audition?
maybe grab a few bd's on the way .. wink.gif
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QUOTE(arremie @ Jan 7 2010, 04:42 PM)
pc13u too big la dont think my hm will approve. so i need to listen to pc12+ first.

i wonder who will be kind enuf to let me do that whistling.gif
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Who else other than our svs taukey biggrin.gif . But if u plan to visit htkaki pad u are welcome to test my pc12+ on yr way there.

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post Jan 7 2010, 05:14 PM

hmm...
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Jan 4 2010, 11:46 AM)
Boss, have you got this copy? What's the result of the review?  hmm.gif

Sound & Vision September 2009. SVS PB12-Plus won the '6 subwoofers head-to-head tests'

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I tot someone S&V review standards becoming like What hi-fi? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(s6xs9x @ Jan 7 2010, 04:08 PM)
Welcome to the gang! no need to listen anymore larh. Just get one and admire in you own living premise.
no worries, he's got the virus in him all these while. practically it's in his genes.
hey bro lets run some practice together in mw2.
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U already upgrade to pc13?
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QUOTE(s6xs9x @ Jan 7 2010, 04:08 PM)
Welcome to the gang! no need to listen anymore larh. Just get one and admire in you own living premise.
no worries, he's got the virus in him all these while. practically it's in his genes.
hey bro lets run some practice together in mw2.
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ok... my mw2 skills still sucks tongue.gif
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PB12 or PC12 better ah?
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Tested the PB13U today for the 1st time. What can I say that has not been said yet?

Bass is what u want, so u get. Forget the Buttkicker if u want tactile sensation! Get a PB13U man.

Seriously, this is one beast. By size, sheer power and the amount of air it pushes. I also ran some curves to test AS-EQ1's strengths at htkaki's pad.

HTkaki has a nightmare of a room for audio and REW showed them. REW also showed how effectively the AS-EQ1 dealt with it. Great unit.

I'm sure someone will ask how the PB13U compares to the other beast. This is my assesment.

One is an earthquake and the other is a tsunami....They have different characteristics yet both excel in different areas. The PB13U does the low rumblings with a lot of air being moved. The Submersive does it as well with the opposing 15in drivers, albeit in its own way. The amount of the bass is the same, the feeling derived is different. It depends on what u r looking for. The Seaton I tested still had a lot in it and the pad was restricting it. Same thing I felt with the SVS as well.

Bass freaks shd give the the PB13U an audition since u can actually audition it. If u r looking for pure clean bass, a Seaton might be ur cup of tea and u shd make friends with ron before deciding. They both achieve owner satisfaction, however they take different approaches.

The AS-EQ1 is a must have for those with bad room. htkaki's pad would have been way too boomy and un-tenable were it not for the AS-EQ1.

I will try to post the curves this weekend.

BTW - htkaki, thanks for hosting me. Say thanks to Mr. Tan as well. We need to see if he manages to find the sweet spot in his system.


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QUOTE(maja_5365 @ Jan 7 2010, 05:05 PM)
Who else other than our svs taukey biggrin.gif . But if u plan to visit htkaki pad u are welcome to test my pc12+ on yr way there.
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Aint have any PC12+ at the moment. Will set all subwoofers up at the shop once it's ready by end Jan.

anfieldude just left not too long ago. I would not say much abt it and let him FR.

Now, I only want ronnt88 to come over

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I tot someone S&V review standards becoming like What hi-fi? biggrin.gif


Bro, they pulled out this bcoz SVS beats one of the heavy advertisers mah whistling.gif


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PB12 or PC12 better ah?

Near identical with PB edges PC marginally esp at abt 20Hz. Apart form that, only footprint is different.

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fuyoh.... sounds like a blast with the PB13U rclxms.gif

will make sure i make a detour to seremban next time thumbup.gif
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I hope to make a trip to PG in end Feb to test your monster Submersive. Btw, EQ1 will be up to PG again by next week, I guess.

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Guys,

I have to apologize for not posting the charts. My bad luck, I made an error when saving the files correctly after htkaki, Mr. Tan and myself looked at them. I will have to re-do the measurements the next time I am there. I'm sorry.
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I watched District 9 in the evening. The MJ's This Is It trailer is amazing. The AQ is a blast. Can feel the power of the concert. Really shifting massive air with 'Beat It'. I bet the BD would be awesome!
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Jan 7 2010, 10:57 PM)
BTW - htkaki, thanks for hosting me. Say thanks to Mr. Tan as well. We need to see if he manages to find the sweet spot in his system.
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wah you went to s;ban ar? when coming to KL?? biggrin.gif


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I watched District 9 in the evening.
how the prawns? biggrin.gif

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Taukeh, free to come over? I will be dismantling my setup soon. Probably in another 2 weeks.


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why dismantle, moving?
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QUOTE(arremie @ Jan 7 2010, 04:42 PM)
pc13u too big la dont think my hm will approve. so i need to listen to pc12+ first.

i wonder who will be kind enuf to let me do that whistling.gif
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Bro remy, foot print of PC13U and PC12U is the sames at 16".
PC13U is slightly taller only... biggrin.gif


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Taukeh, free to come over? I will be dismantling my setup soon. Probably in another 2 weeks.
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Fuyoh... moving it to new shop soon?

Taukeh, when is the 'coming soon'? It's so near yet so far.

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smile.gif for sure deliver 2 ur pad on coming weekend along wt others.

Next weekend is weighlifting time for me
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Jan 9 2010, 07:56 AM)
smile.gif for sure deliver 2 ur pad on coming weekend along wt others.

Next weekend is weighlifting time for me
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May be I wont be in town, please keep us updated biggrin.gif
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Bro remy, foot print of PC13U and PC12U is the sames at 16".
PC13U is slightly taller only... biggrin.gif
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not slightly la bro....much taller. hence it looks big. not to mention the weight sweat.gif
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Bro, going for PC12-Plus?


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SVS PB13-Ultra u can watch video people playing music many people say good playing music sound amazing SVS PB13-Ultra

HTKAKI u can watch video people say that subwoofer SVS PB13-Ultra amazing for playing music tight bass nice








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Bro, going for PC12-Plus?
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QUOTE(logit85 @ Jan 9 2010, 12:18 PM)
SVS PB13-Ultra u can watch video people playing music many people say good playing music sound amazing SVS PB13-Ultra
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u cant make judgment based on utube video la no matter what people said. a caviar to some might be a jello to others rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(logit85 @ Jan 9 2010, 12:18 PM)
SVS PB13-Ultra u can watch video people playing music many people say good playing music sound amazing SVS PB13-Ultra

HTKAKI u can watch video people say that subwoofer SVS PB13-Ultra amazing for playing music tight bass nice
Sorry. Not see thread this you posted until PM you to me.

Ported sub movie good music not precise as sealed sub similarly priced. Pace and tightness sealed sub listering music better.

PB13-Ultra powerful loud boomy boom boom movie thumbup.gif Floor shake shake wall vibrate. Submersive tight bass loud boomy boom boom music when listering you to rclxms.gif Tight bass, precision pace esp Tamil songs with bass loud loud. Nice listering to as loud boomy boom boom bass from Submersive can wall shake, vibrates foundation house with powerful its amp.
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Jan 10 2010, 10:13 PM)
Sorry. Not see thread this you posted until PM you to me.

Ported sub movie good music not precise as sealed sub similarly priced. Pace and tightness sealed sub listering music better.

PB13-Ultra powerful loud boomy boom boom movie  thumbup.gif  Floor shake shake wall vibrate. Submersive tight bass loud boomy boom boom music when listering you to  rclxms.gif Tight bass, precision pace esp Tamil songs with bass loud loud. Nice listering to as loud boomy boom boom bass from Submersive can wall shake, vibrates foundation house with powerful its amp.
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why people say best PB13-Ultra u did watch people got two PB13-Ultra his house shake but nice
i did hear but nice bass its ok lah i like high tight bass
i know PB13-Ultra we can plug cover for ported to set sealed so be tight bass right
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Trust me you need. It is designed in movie in mind first and music is second. A ported sub performs never better sealed sub.

Tamil songs bass loud boomy boom boom precision and pace. Boom start boom stop. Ported sub cannot tight bass do that. Submersive can or ED A7-900 no problem that to do. When you listering to it, bass tight shakes floor and face your.


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QUOTE(logit85 @ Jan 9 2010, 12:18 PM)
SVS PB13-Ultra u can watch video people playing music many people say good playing music sound amazing SVS PB13-Ultra

HTKAKI u can watch video people say that subwoofer SVS PB13-Ultra amazing for playing music tight bass nice
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Logit, I am damn worried now after watching the video you post... everything in the house vibrates sweat.gif
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Boss, that's at insane vol (I guess). I had never crabk mine up to -10dB. At -14dB, it is 'yelling' for more space in my HT room. The build-up pressure is definitely insane.

Just ask anfiledude abt it when we tested the Kung Fu Panda's wushu finger hold scene and DH4.0's tunnel scene.
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Jan 10 2010, 10:49 PM)
Trust me you need. It is designed in movie in mind first and music is second. A ported sub performs never better sealed sub.

Tamil songs bass loud boomy boom boom precision and pace. Boom start boom stop. Ported sub cannot tight bass do that. Submersive can or ED A7-900 no problem that to do. When you listering to it, bass tight shakes floor and face your.
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i know ED A7-900 also Ported not sealed subwoofer
ohh PB13-Ultra cannot tight bass ok how about cover plug ported three block still cannot tight bass ???

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Jan 10 2010, 10:54 PM)
Boss, that's at insane vol (I guess). I had never crabk mine up to -10dB. At -14dB, it is 'yelling' for more space in my HT room. The build-up pressure is definitely insane.

Just ask anfiledude abt it when we tested the Kung Fu Panda's wushu finger hold scene and DH4.0's tunnel scene.
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Sigh, I missed it.
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i knoe ED A7-900 also Ported not sealed subwoofer
ohh PB13-Ultra cannot tight bass ok how about cover plug ported three block still cannot tight bass ???
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Not enuff power to booom boom pow in sealed mode only 750w on PB13.
Logit pls get Paradigm thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Jan 10 2010, 11:00 PM)
Sigh, I missed it.
Taukeh, don't dismantle your set up first.


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Not enuff power to booom boom pow in sealed mode only 750w on PB13.
Logit pls get Paradigm  thumbup.gif
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paradigm very to much expensive
i take PB13 Ultra two so be 2X 750W total = 1500Watts
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Just want to ask a very noob question tongue.gif cause totally unfamiliar with speaker/sub woofer thing:

Why McIntosh XRT1K ($35,000 each doh.gif ) or XRT2K ($40,000 each doh.gif doh.gif ) so expensive? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(low98944 @ Jan 10 2010, 11:22 PM)
Just want to ask a very noob question  tongue.gif  cause totally unfamiliar with speaker/sub woofer thing:

Why McIntosh XRT1K ($35,000 each  doh.gif ) or  XRT2K ($40,000 each  doh.gif  doh.gif ) so expensive?  hmm.gif

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QUOTE(logit85 @ Jan 10 2010, 11:14 PM)
paradigm very to much expensive
i take PB13 Ultra two so be 2X 750W total = 1500Watts
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I tot you would not even touch SVS? biggrin.gif htkaki manage to convert you?
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I tot you would not even touch SVS?  biggrin.gif  htkaki manage to convert you?
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ya i can't go htkaki house i need test hehe i at penang sad.gif
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QUOTE(logit85 @ Jan 10 2010, 11:14 PM)
paradigm very to much expensive
i take PB13 Ultra two so be 2X 750W total = 1500Watts
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That's misconception.

With 2 x 13-Ultra at the front, you are getting +6dB more output. Never get will you double loudness. Paradigm expensive not lah since budget got you at USD50K.
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QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Jan 10 2010, 11:00 PM)
Sigh, I missed it.
Taukeh, don't dismantle your set up first.
No worries, just means you have to go to his shop to listen in future (instead of the house).
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QUOTE(jchong @ Jan 11 2010, 11:13 AM)
No worries, just means you have to go to his shop to listen in future (instead of the house).
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he doesn't have to... ronaldjoe should have one pb13ultra at home by now ? whistling.gif

bro jchong... when's urs coming? brows.gif

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Jan 11 2010, 10:59 AM)
That's misconception.

With 2 x 13-Ultra at the front, you are getting +6dB more output. Never get will you double loudness. Paradigm expensive not lah since budget got you at USD50K.
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2x PB13-Ultra i can put placement front left corner 1st PB13-ultra and front right corner 2nd PB13-Ultra

if i get 2x PB13-Ultra still no good ??? i naver tell u my budget USD50K haha
i know ED A7-900 also Ported not sealed subwoofer
ohh PB13-Ultra cannot tight bass ok how about cover plug ported three block still cannot tight bass ???

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QUOTE(logit85 @ Jan 11 2010, 11:27 AM)
2x PB13-Ultra i can put placement front left corner 1st PB13-ultra and front right corner 2nd PB13-Ultra

if i get 2x PB13-Ultra still no good ??? i naver tell u my budget USD50K haha
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but u told me RM200k laugh.gif

but i don't think u can afford shat!!!!

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but u told me RM200k laugh.gif

but i don't think u can afford shat!!!!
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wrong u forget it maybe my budget RM50K OR RM70K not subwoofer price
i need buy AVreceiver and Front speakers and center and rear and 2 subwoofer that to much alot home theater system
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QUOTE(logit85 @ Jan 11 2010, 11:31 AM)
wrong u forget it maybe my budget RM50K OR RM70K not subwoofer price
i need buy AVreceiver and Front speakers and center and rear and 2 subwoofer that to much alot home theater system
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RM or rupees? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ronnt88 @ Jan 11 2010, 11:37 AM)
RM or rupees? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(logit85 @ Jan 11 2010, 11:31 AM)
wrong u forget it maybe my budget RM50K OR RM70K not subwoofer price
i need buy AVreceiver and Front speakers and center and rear and 2 subwoofer that to much alot home theater system
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rclxub.gif aiyaya, confused me made statement by above.

Last time, you open declare that music only listering you. So, us of all thought music and movie no that mentioned you. Now, you typed want av receiver, front spkrs, center and rear. That one is movie mah. Errrr. which is which lah? rclxub.gif unsure.gif

If tamil song only listering, then better hi-fi setup to go. Av not suitable for listering music. Just buy good a preamp+power amp
, cd transport, DAC and a good loudspeakers pair. Then, add Paradigm Sub25. RM50K enough sure. Big tight bass offers Paradigm Sub25 even PB13-Ultra able not acheive.

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logi ur z5500 die liaw ha? boom boom pow till amp melt?
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QUOTE(logit85 @ Jan 11 2010, 12:01 PM)
just RM lah malaysia i at penang rupees = india that not is
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penang which part at?
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Jan 11 2010, 02:11 PM)
rclxub.gif aiyaya, confused me made statement by above.

Last time, you open declare that music only listering you. So, us of all thought music and movie no that mentioned you. Now, you typed want av receiver, front spkrs, center and rear. That one is movie mah. Errrr. which is which lah?  rclxub.gif  unsure.gif

If tamil song only listering, then better hi-fi setup to go. Av not suitable for listering music. Just buy good a preamp+power amp
, cd transport, DAC and a good loudspeakers pair. Then, add Paradigm Sub25. RM50K enough sure. Big tight bass offers Paradigm Sub25 even PB13-Ultra able not acheive.
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listering music songs also can 5 speakers because my z-5500 5.1 i playing songs i see all speakers also can playing front and rear and center also works sound for songs music i just set 6 channel direct analog
av receiver also can multichannel stereo so be powerfull nice
i dont like hi-fi setup 2 speakers only bad hehe
2x PB13-Ultra i can put placement front left corner 1st PB13-ultra and front right corner 2nd PB13-Ultra
if i get 2x PB13-Ultra still no good ??? i naver tell u my budget USD50K haha
i know ED A7-900 also Ported not sealed subwoofer
ohh PB13-Ultra cannot tight bass ok how about cover plug ported three block still cannot tight bass ???
no need preamp+power amp no need i think batter AV Receiver
Paradigm Sub25 to much expensive i realy need two subwoofer for louder tight bass

QUOTE(ronnt88 @ Jan 11 2010, 03:22 PM)
penang which part at?
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Even with port blocks, 13-Ultra still a ported sub design by. Ported sub shakes easy whole house but pace and tightness seales sub win. Ported = movie watching. Sealed = music listering
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QUOTE(logit85 @ Jan 11 2010, 03:32 PM)
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Penang Street Georgetown  smile.gif
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You better get ur sub asap.... Jan 30 is Thaipusam, need loud loud music rclxms.gif
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If open area like Penang Street, 13-Ultra cannot lah. Need must E.D. A7-900. Best ported sub can buy money and better perform than sealed sub in terms of output. Bery good for listering loud boomy boom boom music.
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at least now i know where not to go in penang whistling.gif
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Jan 11 2010, 04:01 PM)
Even with port blocks, 13-Ultra still a ported sub design by. Ported sub shakes easy whole house but pace and tightness seales sub win. Ported = movie watching. Sealed = music listering
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ya i understand ported best lah ED A7-900 Also ported too

QUOTE(htkaki @ Jan 11 2010, 04:28 PM)
If open area like Penang Street, 13-Ultra cannot lah. Need must E.D. A7-900. Best ported sub can buy money and better perform than sealed sub in terms of output. Bery good for listering loud boomy boom boom music.
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not open area i use subwoofer playing listering my house only famaly room hehe
need ED-A7-900 adoi susah banyak besar saya tak boleh carry and placement banyak susah move to too
SVS PB13-Ultra saya boleh buat move senang buat placement lah
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if think PB13U move easy, wrong u think
70kg PB13U weight
person one move cannot
twice think better
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QUOTE(mpyw @ Jan 11 2010, 04:52 PM)
if think PB13U move easy, wrong u think
70kg PB13U weight
person one move cannot
twice think better
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ya lah 70kg cukup ED macam 1xx kg one person cannot move so bad lah
i have chat ED Customer serives dia kata 4person boleh carry wow susah tak mahu
PB13-Ultra 70KG cukup lah
saya ambik 2 PB13-ULTRA i put placement front left corner 1st sub pb13ultra and front right corner 2nd sub pb13ultrra
apa macam mpyw boleh ke bising bass tight bagus playing lagu
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QUOTE(logit85 @ Jan 11 2010, 04:58 PM)
ya lah 70kg cukup ED macam 1xx kg one person cannot move so bad lah
i have chat ED Customer serives dia kata 4person boleh carry wow susah tak mahu
PB13-Ultra 70KG cukup lah
saya ambik 2 PB13-ULTRA i put placement front left corner 1st sub pb13ultra and front right corner 2nd sub pb13ultrra
apa macam mpyw boleh ke bising bass tight bagus playing lagu
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me PC12Plus 30kg only
happy boom boom boomy house shaking
music me very too happy
breakfast eat old Velodyne CHT-12R easy
u get 2xPB13U, sure house shake shake, door rattle rattle, neighbor bising bising tongue.gif
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QUOTE(mpyw @ Jan 11 2010, 05:05 PM)
me PC12Plus 30kg only
happy boom boom boomy house shaking
music me very too happy
breakfast eat old Velodyne CHT-12R easy
u get 2xPB13U, sure house shake shake, door rattle rattle, neighbor bising bising  tongue.gif
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wow u punya PC12Plus u suda try pla music stil best ke ??? u house shake hahe great
u punya PC12Plus menang bising louder ??? bass
my house satu lah saya boleh bising neighbor wont complant lah because
explan left kedai center me house right kedai haha my place best no more complant
because my house saya boleh dengan bising di kedai video shop dia main playing tamil songs music my place macam dekat lah road so best my place orang wont complant neighbor is shop bukan video shop hehehe
kalau i ambik 2x PB13Ultra i wil happy bass right wont bass bad right my house wil vibrate hehe

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QUOTE(logit85 @ Jan 11 2010, 04:58 PM)
ya lah 70kg cukup ED macam 1xx kg one person cannot move so bad lah
i have chat ED Customer serives dia kata 4person boleh carry wow susah tak mahu
PB13-Ultra 70KG cukup lah
saya ambik 2 PB13-ULTRA i put placement front left corner 1st sub pb13ultra and front right corner 2nd sub pb13ultrra
apa macam mpyw boleh ke bising bass tight bagus playing lagu
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Old news seems as it.

No news definite from SVS on sealed new subs. SB16-Ultra might contender be Sub25. But, I no think come out soon so for it. Maybe 2Q or 3Q of 2010.
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Sorry OT and if it sounds offended, but I just have to ask...  blush.gif  Ahem... Where do you learn English?  Primary, Secondary, self learning or else?  It is really not easy to reach the level the way you "write".  Really, I'm just curious to find out.... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(logit85 @ Jan 11 2010, 05:13 PM)
wow u punya PC12Plus u suda try pla music stil best ke ??? u house shake hahe great
u punya PC12Plus menang bising louder ??? bass
my house satu lah saya boleh bising neighbor wont complant lah because
explan left kedai center me house right kedai haha my place best no more complant
because my house saya boleh dengan bising di kedai video shop dia main playing tamil songs music my place macam dekat lah road so best my place orang wont complant neighbor is shop bukan video shop hehehe
kalau i ambik 2x PB13Ultra i wil happy bass right wont bass bad right my house wil vibrate hehe
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err... gua punya Bm tarak bagud. Your house neighbour immediate shop is? Funny, see seldom house in between shops.

Anyway, since keen you so in 2x PB13-Ultra, I can ship you these. For all Penang Street at RM17,000. Courier on me. Vibrate you and house sure it will.
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careful Rupees 17k instead it may be.... tongue.gif

master yoda out
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speaks like master yoda (star wars) i do.... tongue.gif

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Jan 12 2010, 11:22 AM)
err... gua punya Bm tarak bagud. Your house neighbour immediate shop is? Funny, see seldom house in between shops.

Anyway, since keen you so in 2x PB13-Ultra, I can ship you these. For all Penang Street at RM17,000. Courier on me. Vibrate you and house sure it will.
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yes downstaris is shop and upstaris store for left and me center downstaris is store and upstaris home and right downstaris shop and upstaris home seldom people few so i wont worry because wont complant 100% because video shop menang dekat lah so wont complant hehe
u can ship me ?? i know u selling secand hand
so i like brand new for retail hehe with SVS Box orignal hehe
2x PB13-Ultra if playing music boleh tight bass or not ???

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htkaki official distributor SVS in bolehland
sell only NEW & SEALED SVS sub lar....no secondhand
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so when u want to go 13+? lai lai 12+ cheap cheap tongue.gif
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QUOTE(maja_5365 @ Jan 12 2010, 11:48 AM)
u already get hands on 12+?
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Added on January 12, 2010, 11:56 amwah... htkaki sell used SVS as new ah? no good lor.. tongue.gif

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he trying to get mpyw to upgrade to pb-13 and then mpyw sell remy his 12+ cheap cheap la..
waah so cleeever... laugh.gif
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Ic. So mpyw u upgrade.? biggrin.gif Already got buyer for yr 12+
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QUOTE(logit85 @ Jan 12 2010, 11:37 AM)
yes downstaris is shop and upstaris store for left and me center downstaris is store and upstaris home and right downstaris shop and upstaris home seldom people few so i wont worry because wont complant 100% because video shop menang dekat lah so wont complant hehe
u can ship me ?? i know u selling secand hand
so i like brand new for retail hehe with SVS Box orignal hehe
2x PB13-Ultra if playing music boleh tight bass or not ???
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If you looking tight bass for music, better buy sealed sub like Submersive. I batter not sell you PB13-Ultras. Later, your bass not tight or whatever portion not tight, you mad.gif me. Submersive powderful sealed sub. Sure geranti tight bass.

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Tis arremie damn fast lah
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Jan 12 2010, 12:28 PM)
If you looking tight bass for music, better buy sealed sub like Submersive. I batter not sell you PB13-Ultras. Later, your bass not tight or whatever portion not tight, you  mad.gif  me. Submersive powderful sealed sub. Sure geranti tight bass.
Tis arremie damn fast lah
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submersive??? hahahah... i'm pretty sure he won't like it...

by the way htkaki, since his powderful england is unlike others, better not assume that his definition of tight is the same as your definition. it could actually mean anything or nothing tongue.gif
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That's why batter it is for him to get other sealed sub to get tight ass.. i mean bass... Paradigm Sub25 obvious choice is the sub.


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QUOTE(maja_5365 @ Jan 12 2010, 11:59 AM)
Ic. So mpyw u upgrade.? biggrin.gif  Already got buyer for yr 12+
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QUOTE(logit85 @ Jan 12 2010, 11:37 AM)
yes downstaris is shop and upstaris store for left and me center downstaris is store and upstaris home and right downstaris shop and upstaris home seldom people few so i wont worry because wont complant 100% because video shop menang dekat lah so wont complant hehe
u can ship me ?? i know u selling secand hand
so i like brand new for retail hehe with SVS Box orignal hehe
2x PB13-Ultra if playing music boleh tight bass or not ???
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I cant move the PB12 or PB13 by myself...so no upgrade for me  sweat.gif  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(arremie @ Jan 12 2010, 12:55 PM)
i can help whistling.gif
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everytime I wanna move the box? I have itchy hand and always move my gear u know...like 2 times a month... tongue.gif brows.gif
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I bet arremie still can help you out on that, provided it is on weekend.
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everytime I wanna move the box? I have itchy hand and always move my gear u know...like 2 times a month... tongue.gif  brows.gif
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why do u always want to move it leh. i hardly touch my 10r also tongue.gif
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The soon to be launch SB13Plus...
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SB13 only?? Thought they going for 16"??
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Prototype SB13-Plus. That's why you don't see the 'SVS' logo on the surface of the woofer.

Maybe 2Q of 2010.
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QUOTE(mpyw @ Jan 12 2010, 03:31 PM)
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The soon to be launch SB13Plus...
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SB13 only?? Thought they going for 16"??
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why do u always want to move it leh. i hardly touch my 10r also tongue.gif
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PEQ? Or AS-EQ1?
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Taukeh HT Kaki how low can the PB13 & PC13 can go?
I really have no idea how does a subwoofer below 20HZ sounds like.
I listen to REL once.
But I don't know whether REL is below 20HZ or not.
It seems like very soft...
Not punchy.
Does GSC cinema subwoofer also below 20hz?

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Taukeh HT Kaki how low can the PB13 & PC13 can go?
I really have no idea how does a subwoofer below 20HZ sounds like.
I listen to REL once.
But I don't know whether REL is below 20HZ or not.
It seems like very soft...
Not punchy.
Does GSC cinema subwoofer also below 20hz?
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What REL model you listened to? Most of REL subs dont go down to 20Hz.
It would be good if you could arrange a demo with Htkaki. Then you know what is the real power of SVS. Let your ears be the judge.


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QUOTE(benben79 @ Jan 13 2010, 12:25 AM)
Taukeh HT Kaki how low can the PB13 & PC13 can go?
I really have no idea how does a subwoofer below 20HZ sounds like.
I listen to REL once.
But I don't know whether REL is below 20HZ or not.
It seems like very soft...
Not punchy.
Does GSC cinema subwoofer also below 20hz?
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benben79,

Before attempting to answer your question, can you explain what u will use the subwoofer primarily for? Movies or music? If both, can you let me know how many % of each? This is important before I answer. I carried out some frequency response charts for the PB13U recently.
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QUOTE(benben79 @ Jan 13 2010, 12:25 AM)
Taukeh HT Kaki how low can the PB13 & PC13 can go?
I really have no idea how does a subwoofer below 20HZ sounds like.
I listen to REL once.
But I don't know whether REL is below 20HZ or not.
It seems like very soft...
Not punchy.
Does GSC cinema subwoofer also below 20hz?
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Boss, aint pulling my legs again eh? tongue.gif

I thought you had auditioned the F113. Then, you should have experienced it since it goes below 20Hz. Your statement above confused me rclxub.gif

Which REL sub? Most of the REL subs are 'musical'. Its midrange models tend to roll off at pretty early stage and run out of steam at mid 20s. Here's a FR graph of REL T1,which might explain why you feel its very soft :

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Here it goes again (I'd posted it before)

This is the PC13-U FR graph :

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and PB13-U

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No idea abt cinema.

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Taukeh, this is another power amp?
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QUOTE(benben79 @ Jan 13 2010, 12:25 AM)
Taukeh HT Kaki how low can the PB13 & PC13 can go?
I really have no idea how does a subwoofer below 20HZ sounds like.
I listen to REL once.
But I don't know whether REL is below 20HZ or not.
It seems like very soft...
Not punchy.
Does GSC cinema subwoofer also below 20hz?
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To give u an example in the room the PB13U had usable output till 12Hz. Low enuf?

However, for music, no real instruments actually go so low. The pipe organ is one of the few instruments that go.

Hence, it is important to understand what u r actually looking for. For movies, hell yeah, there is content mixed at even 10Hz or 5Hz. Loud explosions and rumblings, to name a few.

BTW : Bass freaks, check out SpiderMan2 when Doc Oc demoing the use of his claws to control the fusion reactor. Plenty of earth and plaster ceiling bass here!
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QUOTE(benben79 @ Jan 13 2010, 12:25 AM)
Taukeh HT Kaki how low can the PB13 & PC13 can go?
I really have no idea how does a subwoofer below 20HZ sounds like.
I listen to REL once.
But I don't know whether REL is below 20HZ or not.
It seems like very soft...
Not punchy.
Does GSC cinema subwoofer also below 20hz?
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You can check how low the sub goes by looking at the specs and also 3rd party testing on the various forums. There have been graphs published before. I believe the PB13 can go to 15 Hz and below.

Honestly, you probably won't be able to hear below 20 Hz (it's more about the feel), so hard to tell you what it sounds like.

I have no idea what kind of sub GSC cinema uses.
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Boon3, if all goes well, you will be getting yours on Sun.

jchong, that's why I am quite surprised when he asked abt it. He sld have experienced the feeling when auditioning F113.

Hard to explain, eh whistling.gif ? That's why I ask my cust to come and feel for themselves.

anfieldude, I hope the audition of PB13-Ultra is an unforgetful experience for you even the time spent is not much smile.gif .

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Yes, multi-channels pwr amp smile.gif

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more like tentacles whistling.gif
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Technically, tentacles and claw...as the tentacles have claws at the end of them.....maybe tentaclaw... smile.gif
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I watched Underworld : Rise of the Lycans. The LFE is quite good even at -18dB but crappy story sweat.gif
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was watching a .mkv of MJ's This Is It...

Cranked up "Beat It".. heard the rats in the roof top run the F**K away smile.gif
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i have a thing about rats in my residence... that profile pic of years is giving me evil thoughts biggrin.gif
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was watching a .mkv of MJ's This Is It...

Cranked up "Beat It".. heard the rats in the roof top run the F**K away smile.gif
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Technically, tentacles and claw...as the tentacles have claws at the end of them.....maybe tentaclaw... smile.gif
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more like tentacles whistling.gif
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eh got any japs manga on bd?


Added on January 13, 2010, 7:12 pmeh sori i tot this was bd thread just now blush.gif

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Watched '12 Round'. So so storyline but with quite overly done LFE. Bassnut can enjoy more. When Miles blew up Fisher's home, I can feel the tremor and power of the explosion. Btw, this BD need not crank high vol. At -20dB, it is room shaking liao



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QUOTE(htkaki @ Jan 14 2010, 01:06 AM)
Watched '12 Round'. So so storyline but with quite overly done LFE. Bassnut can enjoy more. When Miles blew up Fisher's home, I can feel the tremor and power of the explosion. Btw, this BD need not crank high vol. At -20dB, it is room shaking liao
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Crank it up a bit more and clean off the dust from ceiling.
Save up your energy and no need CNY house cleaning activity. thumbup.gif
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Someone just went back with this in his car whistling.gif :

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Someone just went back with this in his car whistling.gif  :

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tat 1.3 myvi cannot even fit 1/2 SVS.. tongue.gif
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Wanna test it out on your 'Myvi Twin Turbo SE'?  tongue.gif
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Previously, one fellow member came and collected his PC13-Ultra by using Wira Aeroback. Same method as MyVi but he did look like smuggling firearm with the PC13-Ultra in it. LOL..
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Someone just went back with this in his car whistling.gif  :

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wow very huge box SVS wub.gif
i can't go htkaki house sad because i at Penang too so we can't test subwoofer PB13-Ultra music cry.gif
i can go Prangin Mall many shop but dont have display demo SVS PB13-Ultra sad.gif

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so now...those that have wira aeroback can ferry back PC13u and Myvi can ferry back PB13U on their own liao.
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SVS subs are big but not so big that you need a truck lah. Trying to make it sound so big that car like Myvi having hard time is overhype.
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wei OT liao..

RWD..  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Jan 21 2010, 03:37 AM)
SVS subs are big but not so big that you need a truck lah.  Trying to make it sound so big that car like Myvi having hard time is overhype.
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Unless it is hatchback or SUV or MPV, else it really won't fit it in sweat.gif . Sedan is definitely out of question if it is PB series. Wira max can swallow PC12-Plus. That also take a lot of effort to squeeze it in.

Anyway, our ar188's MyVi Zoom Zoom is definitely different laugh.gif Really Special Edition 'MyVi' Twin Turbo. OT : Boss, what's the market price now? RM140K for your unit?
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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Jan 21 2010, 03:37 AM)
SVS subs are big but not so big that you need a truck lah.  Trying to make it sound so big that car like Myvi having hard time is overhype.
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This is the biggest and heaviest box subwoofer I have carried so far. Having muscles pain now sweat.gif
Definitely normal sedan won't fit. With box, it can't go into rear boot of any sedan either. Wagon is another story.

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QUOTE(logit85 @ Jan 21 2010, 12:43 AM)
wow very huge box SVS  wub.gif
i can't go htkaki house sad because i at Penang too so we can't test subwoofer PB13-Ultra music  cry.gif
i can go Prangin Mall many shop but dont have display demo SVS PB13-Ultra  sad.gif
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Walau eh..

Fellow pg-ite ah..

Fittin a box tis size n wt is one matter , tryin to take it out is another.. Using a flat bed makes loadin n unloading much easier.. fwiw, I used a kembara to load my pb12+ box from de docks..

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QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Jan 22 2010, 12:39 PM)
This is the biggest and heaviest box subwoofer I have carried so far. Having muscles pain now sweat.gif
Definitely normal sedan won't fit. With box, it can't go into rear boot of any sedan either. Wagon is another story.
Congratulations on your purchase. biggrin.gif
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How is yours? Received it from taukeh already?
I've been waiting for this like 2 monhts +... Hopefully I can get it set up this weekend.
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I think a sedan is not good for carrying any thing. Maybe good for hiding a dead body biggrin.gif


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This is the biggest and heaviest box subwoofer I have carried so far. Having muscles pain now sweat.gif
Definitely normal sedan won't fit. With box, it can't go into rear boot of any sedan either. Wagon is another story.
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How is yours? Received it from taukeh already?
I've been waiting for this like 2 monhts +... Hopefully I can get it set up this weekend.
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Got mine last night... have to say ... very good service. Taukeh came at 9.30pm! Damn..it looks so huge... like a small little black fridge in the corner. Still have not time to play with it. blush.gif

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Got mine last night... have to say ... very good service. Taukeh came at 9.30pm! Damn..it looks so huge... like a small little black fridge in the corner. Still have not time to play with it.  blush.gif
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I would leave it as well. Still couldn't find time to install it yet ...
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Myvi with 18" T1R... Zoom zoom
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jan 22 2010, 09:26 PM)
Got mine last night... have to say ... very good service. Taukeh came at 9.30pm! Damn..it looks so huge... like a small little black fridge in the corner. Still have not time to play with it.  blush.gif
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fuyoh.. taukeh self deliver to your doorstep ar? thumbup.gif

last time I buy from taukeh have to meet lorry at petrol station.. laugh.gif

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fuyoh.. taukeh self deliver to your doorstep ar?  thumbup.gif

last time I buy from taukeh have to meet lorry at petrol station..  laugh.gif
How can? Why he bully you? tongue.gif laugh.gif
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How can? Why he bully you?  tongue.gif  laugh.gif
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no la.. his transport super busy, if wait for my delivery is like 7pm.. so I potong queue and take my goods at the roadside with my JDM MPV.... biggrin.gif
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wei.. 19inch la..  biggrin.gif

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no la.. his transport super busy, if wait for my delivery is like 7pm.. so I potong queue and take my goods at the roadside with my JDM MPV....  biggrin.gif
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Your JDM MPV can fit 2 PC13-Ultras easily whistling.gif

Maybe 'overdrive' liao for the past few weeks, limpe ain't feeling well sad.gif
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Now, body aching here and there. Sigh.....

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Now, body aching here and there. Sigh.....

Anyway, we'll have a few more members in this thread in another few days.
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That day I saw another 3 PB13U. Where are they gonna be?
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After a few weeks never lepak at forum so many elites upgrade..
Anyway since you got the PB13U you must use a good hugh quality power cord and sub cable too.
What power cord and sub cable are you using?
Mind to share? biggrin.gif
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Congrats bro for the new purchase.
After a few weeks never lepak at forum so many elites upgrade..
Anyway since you got the PB13U you must use a good hugh quality power cord and sub cable too.
What power cord and sub cable are you using?
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That day I saw another 3 PB13U. Where are they gonna be?
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Is it? hmm.gif But, I didn't see any of it now tongue.gif

One went to Flagship AV, Waterfront@Parkcity. The other 2 are non-lowyat forummers. Now, waiting for new shipment of PB13-Ultras (eta mid next week)


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Now, I am waiting for a fellow forummer to re-do EQ1 on his 2X PB12-Plus (front) and SPL1200-Ultra (rear left) in his room. Then, I go and do 'body massage'
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re-do EQ1 on his 2X PB12-Plus (front) and SPL1200-Ultra (rear left) in his room.

FUYOH!!! Only 2x PB-Plus + SPL1200-Ultra? Super geng hor!

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FUYOH!!! Only 2x PB-Plus + SPL1200-Ultra? Super geng hor!
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Maybe we sld ask him for permission to audition it with a limit of 4-5 pax hmm.gif
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Audtion? Aiseh.. must invitation go logit friend?? tongue.gif
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Pants and shirts flapping? WOW!!!!

Audtion? Aiseh.. must invitation go logit friend??  tongue.gif
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elo...logit very quality bass tight want. Not only Loud Boomy Boom Boom, must tight bass listering tamil songs tongue.gif IMHO, logit's taste exquisite. He sld get Elemental Design A7-900 for his listering song along Penang Street thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Jan 25 2010, 08:49 AM)
elo...logit very quality bass tight want. Not only Loud Boomy Boom Boom, must tight bass listering tamil songs  tongue.gif  IMHO, logit's taste exquisite. He sld get Elemental Design A7-900 for his listering song along Penang Street  thumbup.gif
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Elemental Design A7-900 its very huge very susah i dont need it
i also need very quality bass tigh very loud and bass bomy boom very loud
i realy need very loud hehe i can't buy paradigm Sub25 because to much expensive
i realy need two subwoofer for very louder if buy two paradigm sub 25 wil be over RM40k something sad.gif
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QUOTE(logit85 @ Jan 25 2010, 12:04 PM)
Elemental Design A7-900 its very huge very susah i dont need it
i also need very quality bass tigh very loud and bass bomy boom very loud
i realy need very loud hehe i can't buy paradigm Sub25 because to much expensive
i realy need two subwoofer for very louder if buy two paradigm sub 25 wil be over RM40k something  sad.gif
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Loud boomy boom boom = expensive sub. There no way is it about.

Paradigm Sub25 two buy will cheap to be. No need RM40K. Boss I ask about Sub25, 2 months need waiting. If 2 buy you, total RM34K only wink.gif . Save RM6K buy tamil songs by tonnes. Can listering loud boomy boom boom at Penang Street thumbup.gif rclxms.gif


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QUOTE(htkaki @ Jan 25 2010, 05:44 PM)
Loud boomy boom boom = expensive sub. There no way is it about.

Paradigm Sub25 two buy will cheap to be. No need RM40K. Boss I ask about Sub25, 2 months need waiting. If 2 buy you, total RM34K only wink.gif . Save RM6K buy tamil songs by tonnes. Can listering loud boomy boom boom at Penang Street  thumbup.gif  rclxms.gif
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Logit please invite us to your boom boom pow Paradigm sub 25 party then. biggrin.gif


Added on January 25, 2010, 6:04 pmNow I understand why those fellas in US need to run mutli subs...
The bass from PB13U is very clean and face paced (well integrated with other speakers), running multiple subs at a time would give better feel.
sweat.gif I can't afford to have two PB13 running together tho...

Eager to hear Bryan's or Taukeh's 7.4 set up thumbup.gif drool.gif

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That's how I wanted it to be. Clean bass. I won't need a sealed sub then. I enjoy the visual feel of the sub. I watched dragon tiger gate before I came out. My wife was looking at me like saying wtf... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Jan 25 2010, 05:44 PM)
Loud boomy boom boom = expensive sub. There no way is it about.

Paradigm Sub25 two buy will cheap to be. No need RM40K. Boss I ask about Sub25, 2 months need waiting. If 2 buy you, total RM34K only wink.gif . Save RM6K buy tamil songs by tonnes. Can listering loud boomy boom boom at Penang Street  thumbup.gif  rclxms.gif
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wow to much expensive 34K i can't afford
no need buy tamil songs by tonnes haha i got lot tamil songs mp3 10k++ above total file size 74gb++

QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Jan 25 2010, 05:52 PM)
Logit please invite us to your boom boom pow Paradigm sub 25 party then. biggrin.gif


Added on January 25, 2010, 6:04 pmNow I understand why those fellas in US need to run mutli subs...
The bass from PB13U is very clean and face paced (well integrated with other speakers), running multiple subs at a time would give better feel.
sweat.gif  I can't afford to have two PB13 running together tho...

Eager to hear Bryan's or Taukeh's 7.4 set up  thumbup.gif  drool.gif
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ya i understand many people using run multi subwoofer to much very louder
i can afford two subwoofer only
how are you new PB13U u have testing music how is bass ??? to much bass tight ?
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Yay.... finally ronaldjoe got the chance to reply logit's query liao tongue.gif


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That's how I wanted it to be. Clean bass. I won't need a sealed sub then. I enjoy the visual feel of the sub. I watched dragon tiger gate before I came out. My wife was looking at me like saying wtf...  biggrin.gif

Let it run in and loosen up. Then, invite Uncle Ng and HS over whistling.gif

OT : Limpe's luck not so gd. My 'Hero' played trick on me. Maybe time to look for a 2nd hand ride liao

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Yay.... finally ronaldjoe got the chance to reply logit's query liao tongue.gif
Let it run in and loosen up. Then, invite Uncle Ng and HS over  whistling.gif

OT : Limpe's luck not so gd. My 'Hero' played trick on me. Maybe time to look for a 2nd hand ride liao
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who's unker ng? unker Ho leh?  laugh.gif
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wow to much expensive 34K i can't afford
no need buy tamil songs by tonnes haha i got lot tamil songs mp3 10k++ above total file size 74gb++
ya i understand many people using run multi subwoofer to much very louder
i can afford two subwoofer only
how are you new PB13U u have testing music how is bass ??? to much bass tight ?
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To me it's 'tight' coz I am not a music guy.
If it's getting 'tighter', I would feel no omppph.

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Logit tight bass want. Very tight bass. So, Sub25 must get logit to listering his mp3 tamil songs loud boomy boom boom.

ronald, if you have Star Trek, try the speed warp sequence. Then, tell me whistling.gif

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Maybe uncle is busy nowadays. Didn't hear from him.

He said he will come to my shop when it is ready. Poison on standby tongue.gif

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Logit tight bass want. Very tight bass. So, Sub25 must get logit to listering his mp3 tamil songs loud boomy boom boom.

ronald, if you have Star Trek, try the speed warp sequence. Then, tell me  whistling.gif
Maybe uncle is busy nowadays. Didn't hear from him.

He said he will come to my shop when it is ready. Poison on standby  tongue.gif
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Which scene is that? I am not a star trek fan.
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errrr.. forgotten. I think there is one at opening scene and another near the ending.
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errrr.. forgotten. I think there is one at opening scene and another near the ending.
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Will try again.
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Just remember to read the manual for all the settings. You need an interval of 10mins for each changes. It is critical to have the correct setting. No port block : 20Hz. 1 port blocked : 15Hz. Dual port blocked : 10Hz. Then the sealed setting..... I think don't have to explain what you do with it.


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QUOTE(htkaki @ Jan 26 2010, 04:01 PM)
Just remember to read the manual for all the settings. You need an interval of 10mins for each changes. It is critical to have the correct setting. No port block : 20Hz. 1 port blocked : 15Hz. Dual port blocked : 10Hz. Then the sealed setting..... I think don't have to explain what you do with it.
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Setting on the port blocked and mode set is correct.
sweat.gif Need to switch off for 10 minutes only then I can change the setting?
I leave it in standby mode when I made changes.
Will run audyssey again later tonight biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(logit85 @ Jan 25 2010, 09:50 PM)
wow to much expensive 34K i can't afford
no need buy tamil songs by tonnes haha i got lot tamil songs mp3 10k++ above total file size 74gb++
ya i understand many people using run multi subwoofer to much very louder
i can afford two subwoofer only
how are you new PB13U u have testing music how is bass ??? to much bass tight ?
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Can afford buy 2 sub but how much money your budget for loud loud boom boom bass? whistling.gif
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wow very huge box what SVS subwoofer model ???
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Hi...i'm new comer...does anybody know where can find SVS subwoofer
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Contact htkaki directly. There are no dealers in KL.
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Something new?
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Something new?
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No, it is the PB13-Ultra meant for Flagship AV Sdn Bhd's main showroom at Waterfront@Desa Parkcity. The Ultra needs to be located in front of their screen as it is shaking the whole perforated screen frame sweat.gif

However, there will be some 'sneak peek' in another 2 months or so.
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No, it is the PB13-Ultra meant for Flagship AV Sdn Bhd's main showroom at Waterfront@Desa Parkcity. The Ultra needs to be located in front of their screen as it is shaking the whole perforated screen frame  sweat.gif

However, there will be some 'sneak peek' in another 2 months or so.
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No, it is the PB13-Ultra meant for Flagship AV Sdn Bhd's main showroom at Waterfront@Desa Parkcity. The Ultra needs to be located in front of their screen as it is shaking the whole perforated screen frame  sweat.gif

However, there will be some 'sneak peek' in another 2 months or so.
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WOW! Really big! PB13 Ultra is around 150+ pounds yes? How many person to lift it into the vehicle?
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WOW! Really big! PB13 Ultra is around 150+ pounds yes? How many person to lift it into the vehicle?
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If muscular fella like ronnt88, maybe 1 pax. Normally, 3 persons to do it coz dont want to break our back lifting it. PC13-Ultra needs 2 persons to lift it.

The 12-Plus can be done by 2 persons.

Later, there might be a dual PB13-Ultra setup in KL.


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If muscular fella like ronnt88, maybe 1 pax. Normally, 3 persons to do it coz dont want to break our back lifting it. PC13-Ultra needs 2 persons to lift it.

The 12-Plus can be done by 2 persons.

Later, there might be a dual PB13-Ultra setup in KL.
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Wait til I get the confirmation and I shall post the photo after installation.

Btw, 90% confirmed that there will be an upmarket pub / lounge that utilise JBL Mt Everest (yes, it's not a typo) with 6 units of PB13-Ultra for the LFE. It should be officially open in March 2010.
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If muscular fella like ronnt88, maybe 1 pax.
u admiring his muscles or what during his last visit to your place? biggrin.gif
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u admiring his muscles or what during his last visit to your place?  biggrin.gif
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Elo..... he has such a commanding body fig that you could hardly not notice it. Our very own 'AhRon Subwariner' tongue.gif
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I dunno wor I go there to admire your SVS PC batang... not other batang..

, you ask RJ and HS they notice or not? biggrin.gif
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I dunno wor I go there to admire your SVS PC batang... not other batang..

, you ask RJ and HS they notice or not?  biggrin.gif
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so now batang tak main already?
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For SVS owners. (for those can't read chinese notworthy.gif )

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For SVS owners. (for those can't read chinese  notworthy.gif )

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Why SVS tagline very Sony-like ... whistling.gif

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Why SVS tagline very Sony-like  ...  whistling.gif
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boss htkaki, can do special pb13u loaner to try pc + pb setup.
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Just a modified version tongue.gif
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Its exactly the same - 'Like.No.Other' tongue.gif

Luckily Sony dah changed to 'make.believe' for 2010 ... sweat.gif
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I dunno wor I go there to admire your SVS PC batang... not other batang..

, you ask RJ and HS they notice or not?  biggrin.gif
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boss htkaki, can do special pb13u loaner to try pc + pb setup.
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Blardy heavy... that day I moved and installed PB13U alone sweat.gif
Kiam wanna to run dual subs soon? biggrin.gif

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haha...was thinking since htkaki boss is moving stuffs to shop can let the pb singgah a while ma biggrin.gif haha.

still thinking la, but maybe have to content with the setup first...need to build up ammo..kering kontang liao
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SVS.Like no other! laugh.gif laugh.gif

Nice la.
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Another one wanna get subdude or gramma.
I am thinking of getting another subdude or gramma...


Added on January 28, 2010, 9:32 pmI ran audyssey two days ago. Sub trim was at -2db. I manually set 3db higher... run hot hot wub.gif

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so tacky wan? biggrin.gif
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haha...was thinking since htkaki boss is moving stuffs to shop can let the pb singgah a while ma biggrin.gif haha.

still thinking la, but maybe have to content with the setup first...need to build up ammo..kering kontang liao
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my brick and mortar hits a wall sad.gif The contractor painted the wall too fast w/o waiting for the cement to dry up. Now, have to re-do it again. Since damage is done, need to wait for another week to complete final task. Then, the installation of the steel grille on railing (dunno wot is the name) have to be after CNY doh.gif

So, it'll only house entry level setup in the showroom at the mean time (next Sat). Reference stuffs and midrange system will only be moved in after 100% completion.

Mean time, I still get to enjoy my setup at home during CNY tongue.gif

kiam, you come and collect the sub? shocking.gif Btw, I have another easy way for you to build ammo in the form of credit card payment facility. Hopefully, can get it done by end Feb.


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still got time to enjoy your equipment ar? kheng! I would reckon you got no time with the shop issues and all... biggrin.gif

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my brick and mortar hits a wall  sad.gif The contractor painted the wall too fast w/o waiting for the cement to dry up. Now, have to re-do it again. Since damage is done, need to wait for another week to complete final task. Then, the installation of the steel grille on railing (dunno wot is the name) have to be after CNY  doh.gif

So, it'll only house entry level setup in the showroom at the mean time (next Sat). Reference stuffs and midrange system will only be moved in after 100% completion.

Mean time, I still get to enjoy my setup at home during CNY tongue.gif

kiam, you come and collect the sub?
shocking.gif  Btw, I have another easy way for you to build ammo in the form of credit card payment facility. Hopefully, can get it done by end Feb.
Ipoh HT members not interested? hmm.gif
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Blardy heavy...equipment (trolley), space, energy, helpers, gramma + wife not at home.
Then Kiam can carry PB13U back biggrin.gif


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still got time to enjoy your equipment ar? kheng! I would reckon you got no time with the shop issues and all...  biggrin.gif
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Taukeh busy with work. Reach home...enjoy SVS massage...
Beat it....Beat it....

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still got time to enjoy your equipment ar? kheng! I would reckon you got no time with the shop issues and all...  biggrin.gif
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It's a form of stress reliever tongue.gif Few days ago were like hell. Very busy. Today, aint that bad. Tmw, no time. Most of the task in new shop being delegated to my staff to follow up. Then, need to go for some furniture shopping for the new shop on weekend. I will be in KL on Sun for audio calibration

Re-watch Bourne Ultimatum this evening. Really good AQ. However, I missed my MTS-01.

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Jan 28 2010, 09:50 PM)
my brick and mortar hits a wall  sad.gif The contractor painted the wall too fast w/o waiting for the cement to dry up. Now, have to re-do it again. Since damage is done, need to wait for another week to complete final task. Then, the installation of the steel grille on railing (dunno wot is the name) have to be after CNY  doh.gif

So, it'll only house entry level setup in the showroom at the mean time (next Sat). Reference stuffs and midrange system will only be moved in after 100% completion.

Mean time, I still get to enjoy my setup at home during CNY tongue.gif

kiam, you come and collect the sub? shocking.gif  Btw, I have another easy way for you to build ammo in the form of credit card payment facility. Hopefully, can get it done by end Feb.
Ipoh HT members not interested? hmm.gif
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htkaki boss. need employ muscle man.
cc facility...sounds poisonous!
maybe i can join bulk to buy gramma. imagine the sub sitting on top and have some placebo effect kick in biggrin.gif


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Trying to get PB and HL facility. You guys only need to pay a lil more extra if installment plan. So, ammo can reload month by month tongue.gif

Trying to get another 13-Ultra to even out the room response and to get more headroom?
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Trying to get PB and HL facility. You guys only need to pay a lil more extra if installment plan. So, ammo can reload month by month  tongue.gif

Trying to get another 13-Ultra to even out the room response and to get more headroom?
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yeah and also wanted to get some frontal air movement.

pc is really doing a great job pressurizing the open room and blends really well with the rest of the main.
would like pb's front firing to induce more pants flapping and skirt flipping wub.gif characteristic to my setup
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yeah and also wanted to get some frontal air movement.

pc is really doing a great job pressurizing the open room and blends really well with the rest of the main.
would like pb's front firing to induce more pants flapping and skirt flipping  wub.gif characteristic to my setup
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PB is a bit more brutal in this sense. With 2 Ultras, you need to trim down the gain as you are gaining 6dB more headroom by placing both up front. Surely induce more flapping of whatever in its path wink.gif
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Jan 29 2010, 08:45 AM)
PB is a bit more brutal in this sense. With 2 Ultras, you need to trim down the gain as you are gaining 6dB more headroom by placing both up front. Surely induce more flapping of whatever in its path  wink.gif
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Which placement is better? Both at fronts or One at the front and the other at the back?
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Which placement is better? Both at fronts or One at the front and the other at the back?
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got you thinking as well boss ronald? biggrin.gif
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I don't have a dedicated room yet notworthy.gif
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Added on January 28, 2010, 9:32 pmI ran audyssey two days ago. Sub trim was at -2db. I manually set 3db higher... run hot hot  wub.gif
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Should you run the sub this hot during this break in period?
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Should you run the sub this hot during this break in period?
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bro jchong, -2db is audyssey calibrated setting.
I set add 3db to make it to +1db.
I am running 20hz with room compensation 'off'.
Is the setting okay? It sounds good tho.
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QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Jan 29 2010, 05:28 PM)
bro jchong, -2db is audyssey calibrated setting.
I set add 3db to make it to +1db.
I am running 20hz with room compensation 'off'.
Is the setting okay? It sounds good tho.
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Gotta refer to SVS sifu htkaki. I remember he said during break in period not to push the sub too much.
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Gotta refer to SVS sifu htkaki. I remember he said during break in period not to push the sub too much.
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Icic. I didn't push it hard. I listened at -20db at most.
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Icic. I didn't push it hard. I listened at -20db at most.
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That's still ok as it is on 20Hz setting. Let it run in first.
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Bro, how long should one let the sub run-in? biggrin.gif
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Bro, how long should one let the sub run-in? biggrin.gif
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ideally try to break it in within waranty period..  biggrin.gif
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Ideally it does not take too long to break. No rosak how to claim and GRAB new one from taukeh! tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jan 30 2010, 12:24 PM)
laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif 

Ideally it does not take too long to break. No rosak how to claim and GRAB new one from taukeh!  tongue.gif
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LOL..... Try lah and I can sell you a new unit. Apparently, they are able to check both the woofer and the amp for any abuse or whether it is due to owner's negligence tongue.gif Then, I can sell you a PB12-Plus brows.gif 5% discount for returning customer thumbup.gif

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Which placement is better? Both at fronts or One at the front and the other at the back?
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I have try placing both sub in front..............by right should feel more bass but don't sad.gif turn out that with both sub blasting, it sort of create a 'numb' area ie both sound wave cancel out each other, out of phase which I discovered using a spl meter. Yes I can use the phase to adjust it but the effect is still not so good.
So now I am using one sub front left & one sub rear right. U have to make sure that both sub output at the same level & have to fine tune the phase on the sub using spl meter. Only disadvantage is having to use very long sub cable. In my case use one 3m & 10m QED sub cable.

Having a 7.2 set up is very syok! LFE is very syok & even my ball get pounded!!! rclxms.gif


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LOL..... Try lah and I can sell you a new unit. Apparently, they are able to check both the woofer and the amp for any abuse or whether it is due to owner's negligence  tongue.gif Then, I can sell you a PB12-Plus brows.gif 5% discount for returning customer thumbup.gif

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laugh.gif Kong Chor Yea Chor! sweat.gif

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QUOTE(HornyAngMoh @ Jan 30 2010, 02:58 PM)
I have try placing both sub in front..............by right should feel more bass but don't  sad.gif  turn out that with both sub blasting, it sort of create a 'numb' area ie both sound wave cancel out each other, out of phase which I discovered using a spl meter. Yes I can use the phase to adjust it but the effect is still not so good.
So now I am using one sub front left & one sub rear right. U have to make sure that both sub output at the same level & have to fine tune the phase on the sub using spl meter. Only disadvantage is having to use very long sub cable. In my case  use one 3m & 10m QED sub cable.

Having a 7.2 set up is very syok! LFE is very syok & even my ball get pounded!!! rclxms.gif
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It's great to hear from people like you have good experience on dual sub set up.
At least we do not have to move the sub around.
My thought would be one right and one left as well.
I have one 3m and one 4m sub cable. So it would suffice.


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laugh.gif  Kong Chor Yea Chor!  sweat.gif
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ideally try to break it in within waranty period..  biggrin.gif
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Warranty is 3 years wor

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QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Jan 30 2010, 05:13 PM)
It's great to hear from people like you have good experience on dual sub set up.
At least we do not have to move the sub around.
My thought would be one right and one left as well.
I have one 3m and one 4m sub cable. So it would suffice.


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Can use it as an excuse to upgrade mar  smile.gif


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Warranty is 3 years wor
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One note, different rooms have different responses.

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I remember reading some where that dual sub should be placed diagonally at opposing corners as well..

I am not a picky (and lazy) guy. Once it's set up, it's done. Not gonna move it around.

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QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Jan 30 2010, 07:39 PM)
I remember reading some where that dual sub should be placed diagonally at opposing corners as well..

I am not a picky (and lazy) guy. Once it's set up, it's done. Not gonna move it around.
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It all depends on the room. Next time, you can come and test it out. A fellow forummer put both of his PB12-Plus in front. Amazing LFE output!

Btw, PC12-NSD quite popular thumbup.gif . Never thought such a good response. Only left 2 units sweat.gif and I probably have no chance to have one for demo purpose. Have to make do with PB12-NSD since I have 4.

You get the chance to demo PB13-Ultra in Piano finish, PC13-Ultra, PB12-Plus in rosenut, PC12-Plus, PB12-NSD, S series speakers, MTS-01 system as well as AS-EQ1 after CNY. I'll invite you guys over on Sat (date yet to be fixed) for a soft launch. Light meals will be provided.

If you guys wanna bring your sub to do a shootout, please do so. Best is to lug DD-15, F112, F113 as well as Sub 25. I don't mind ronnt88 to bring his Submersive (not Rollie Submariner, mind you tongue.gif ) too laugh.gif
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Jan 31 2010, 10:54 PM)
It all depends on the room. Next time, you can come and test it out. A fellow forummer put both of his PB12-Plus in front. Amazing LFE output!

Btw, PC12-NSD quite popular thumbup.gif . Never thought such a good response. Only left 2 units  sweat.gif and I probably have no chance to have one for demo purpose. Have to make do with PB12-NSD since I have 4.

You get the chance to demo PB13-Ultra in Piano finish, PC13-Ultra, PB12-Plus in rosenut, PC12-Plus, PB12-NSD, S series speakers, MTS-01 system as well as AS-EQ1 after CNY. I'll invite you guys over on Sat (date yet to be fixed) for a soft launch. Light meals will be provided.

If you guys wanna bring your sub to do a shootout, please do so. Best is to lug DD-15, F112, F113 as well as Sub 25. I don't mind ronnt88 to bring his Submersive (not Rollie Submariner, mind you tongue.gif ) too laugh.gif
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You mean bryan? Amazing...a must have experience. Looking forward to it.
biggrin.gif Rollie no boom boom. Only tick tick tick tick tick tick...
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QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Jan 31 2010, 11:09 PM)

biggrin.gif Rollie no boom boom. Only tick tick tick tick tick tick...
sound like a bomb timer.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Feb 1 2010, 12:00 AM)
sound like a bomb timer..  biggrin.gif
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Taukeh, you must be amiring your 'ticks ticks ticks ticks ticks ticks ticks' very much biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Feb 1 2010, 11:24 AM)
Taukeh, you must be amiring your 'ticks ticks ticks ticks ticks ticks ticks' very much  biggrin.gif
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Taukeh ar has exquisite taste tongue.gif Those entry level Rollie right up to Explorer II tak main whistling.gif Whenever we meet up, I'll admire his watch (nothing else, for the record sweat.gif ) and his rides.

SVS stocks for SEA is almost depleted sweat.gif . Next eta would be end Mar / early April and probably along with ..........something compact whistling.gif


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QUOTE(htkaki @ Feb 1 2010, 11:37 AM)
Taukeh ar has exquisite taste tongue.gif  Those entry level Rollie right up to Explorer II tak main  whistling.gif  Whenever we meet up, I'll admire his watch (nothing else, for the record  sweat.gif ) and his rides.

SVS stocks for SEA is almost depleted sweat.gif . Next eta would be end Mar / early April and probably along with ..........something compact  whistling.gif
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Next time I got to look at them as well. biggrin.gif
Looking at the photo of new empire, it just turns me off with its Ah Beng-ish look.
Probably the 'new compact' thingy would be better. laugh.gif
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compact thingy = SB16?? brows.gif
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hmm.gif I dunno wot you mean lah. Aint SB16-Ultra.
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oh?? must be SB14 loh... whistling.gif
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Feb 1 2010, 11:37 AM)
Taukeh ar has exquisite taste tongue.gif  Those entry level Rollie right up to Explorer II tak main  whistling.gif  Whenever we meet up, I'll admire his watch (nothing else, for the record  sweat.gif ) and his rides.

SVS stocks for SEA is almost depleted sweat.gif . Next eta would be end Mar / early April and probably along with ..........something compact  whistling.gif
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not tak main but those 36mm ones to small for my wrists ma.. if you wear ok la.. the new datejust models (I mean the 6digit model codes) quite nice..

wah your SVS stocks depleted.. damn.. who say economy slow.. biggrin.gif thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Feb 1 2010, 11:37 AM)
SVS stocks for SEA is almost depleted sweat.gif . Next eta would be end Mar / early April and probably along with ..........something compact  whistling.gif
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saving up for oppo and perhaps after that pb12 or pc 12 tongue.gif

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I'll invite you guys over on Sat (date yet to be fixed) for a soft launch. Light meals will be provided.

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Would like to audition some SVS before deciding on what to buy for sure... biggrin.gif
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Sorry for gatecrashing... but please keep me informed.
Would like to audition some SVS before deciding on what to buy for sure...  biggrin.gif
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Np wink.gif Should be right after CNY.

But, I guess by then the PC12-NSD will be sold out. Nvm, still have PB12-NSD, PB12-Plus, PC12-Plus, PC13-Ultra, & PB13-Ultra for you to audition.
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Np  wink.gif Should be right after CNY.

But, I guess by then the PC12-NSD will be sold out. Nvm, still have PB12-NSD, PB12-Plus, PC12-Plus, PC13-Ultra, & PB13-Ultra for you to audition.
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Tubular...... sweat.gif This wkw7889 really like to use 'flowery' words.

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Newbie question: Is it true that tubular woofers are easier to position as oppose to their traditional box siblings?
Yes, it is indeed as cyclinder sub (PC) weight much lesser than the box sub (PB). So, it is easier to move around to get the correct position. Corner would be best in most cases.


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Bought the PC12-NSD after much research and numerous trips to AV shops for auditioning.
Shakes my sofa and rattles my plaster ceiling shocking.gif

Spent the whole of Sunday going thro' King Kong, Matrix, T2 ROTF and Terminator Salvation.
It gives a whole new 'visceral' experience to the show notworthy.gif

Thanks to HTkaki for the delivery and calibration.
The surround sounds so much better and integrated after that.
Finally feels like I am having a 7.1 system thumbup.gif

Tho' it was out of my initial budget of <2K, there was just too many good reviews and user feedback for me to ignore.

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QUOTE(klimal @ Feb 8 2010, 09:36 AM)
icon_idea.gif  Newest member reporting in !
Bought the PC12-NSD after much research and numerous trips to AV shops for auditioning.
Shakes my sofa and rattles my plaster ceiling  shocking.gif

Spent the whole of Sunday going thro' King Kong, Matrix, T2 ROTF and Terminator Salvation.
It gives a whole new 'visceral' experience to the show notworthy.gif

Thanks to HTkaki for the delivery and calibration.
The surround sounds so much better and integrated after that.
Finally feels like I am having a 7.1 system  thumbup.gif

Tho' it was out of my initial budget of <2K, there was just too many good reviews and user feedback for me to ignore.
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Great to hear that you are happy with your 'investment' thumbup.gif

I bet you will re-watch all your movies again.

Another new SVS owner is in the house; jediknight8820 rclxms.gif Drove to my shop to collect his PC12-NSD, which he has booked. He is a happy man now. Let's wait for him to FR.




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PC-12 NSD owner reporting in. collect/unpack/set-up/demo within the same day. this thing was 'huge', really need to get use to seeing it just sitting there.

Initial calibration done and the difference was 'drastic' - using KungFu Panda bluray. agree with the previous post that it rattles my 'plaster ceiling' but its not that bad - coz i'm using Subdude.

Now need to further 'tweak' using SPL meter and check the best placement for this 'thing', also the 'burn-in' period. rclxms.gif
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Good to hear that thumbup.gif

Still waiting for Reix to sort out his PC12-NSD placement to maximise the potential.

knee_drag2002 got his PB12-NSD too but he is busy and needs to get a longer sub cable.

nadky is trying to optimize his PC12-NSD while Jiauboy is doing the burn-in for his PB12-NSD.

Boon3 is already enjoying his PB12-NSD.

We have growing SVS members! Btw, feel free to join SVS Malaysia Owner and Fan Club on Facebook Group.

On another note, you guys can audition SVS subs starting from 27th Feb 2010. Location map to be uploaded soon.

Feel free to bring other subs for a shootout.


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Burn in?? hmm.gif ....you didn't mention this
So I listened at my usual level of 50-52 onb my onky 607 sweat.gif
Shouldn't be a problem I hope.

OTOH, the figure 50hours seems to ring a bell whistling.gif
What level should one use during the burn in period?

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klimal, your volume is not considered as loud so it sld be ok along the 'burn-in' process while you watch movie.

Anyway, here are some sneak peek of what to come :

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Feb 9 2010, 04:34 PM)
klimal, your volume is not considered as loud so it sld be ok along the 'burn-in' process while you watch movie.

Anyway, here are some sneak peek of what to come :

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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Sld be same price as PB13-Ultra since the MSRP is same as Ultra. However, there will be a pre-order for this whereby you will save about RM850. Yet to be confirmed.
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Feb 9 2010, 04:50 PM)
Sld be same price as PB13-Ultra since the MSRP is same as Ultra. However, there will be a pre-order for this whereby you will save about RM850. Yet to be confirmed.
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Aiyak, I faint liao for this price... sweat.gif
But the size so much more compact than PB.

Is the SB13 using new driver as well?
SVS 12.3" driver will be replaced by 12.4" driver. So the existing 13.3" driver => ??.?" driver for this new SB.
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It looks like the proven 13-Ultra to me :

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SVS has been using 12.4" driver for its PC12-Plus since early last year. The SB12-NSD will employs a new driver as compare to SB12-Plus. Expect better performance.

As for SB13-Plus, it will not blow away F113 but it is very near to its performance. Impressive for this price range.
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Feb 10 2010, 09:55 AM)
It looks like the proven 13-Ultra to me :

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SVS has been using 12.4" driver for its PC12-Plus since early last year. The SB12-NSD will employs a new driver as compare to SB12-Plus. Expect better performance.

As for SB13-Plus, it will not blow away F113 but it is very near to its performance. Impressive for this price range.
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Bro, patient..... more news on the way tongue.gif



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wow SB13Plus sealed i see woofer nice htkaki how about to playing music will be good bass tight ???
or i most wait SB16 Ultra sealed i want see picture svs woofer 16inch
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wow SB13Plus sealed i see woofer nice htkaki how about to playing music will be good bass tight ???
or i most wait SB16 Ultra sealed i want see picture svs woofer 16inch
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Million dollar question for me to answer you that sweat.gif .

Tight bass is definitely but tight how to you judgment difficult. Know not of exquisite taste you.

I am not sure about the SB16-Ultra but definitely it is going to be the reference model of SVS. Pay very much expect for this. How much budget have got you?


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Million dollar question for me to answer you that sweat.gif .

Tight bass is definitely but tight how to you judgment difficult. Know not of exquisite taste you.

I am not sure about the SB16-Ultra but definitely it is going to be the reference model of SVS. Pay very much expect for this. How much budget have got you?
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If it's around RM12k, then can consider la.
Need to sell PB sweat.gif
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Feb 10 2010, 11:10 AM)
Million dollar question for me to answer you that sweat.gif .

Tight bass is definitely but tight how to you judgment difficult. Know not of exquisite taste you.

I am not sure about the SB16-Ultra but definitely it is going to be the reference model of SVS. Pay very much expect for this. How much budget have got you?
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i can wait to long hehe SB16 Ultra sealed i want see picture svs woofer 16inch can u do picture to get 16inch woofer svs
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Feb 10 2010, 10:57 AM)
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Good to see more updated info on the new sealed models. Interestingly, for the SB13 and SB16 they spec the FR at +/- 6dB limits.
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SVS us "upping" the ante....I wonder how the subwoofer community is going to react to the 13s and 16s.....

More choices for us, and with htkaki as the distri we can expect some pretty good launch prices, as he states.
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SVS us "upping" the ante....I wonder how the subwoofer community is going to react to the 13s and 16s.....

More choices for us, and with htkaki as the distri we can expect some pretty good launch prices, as he states.
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another round of 15% off and RM1000 1st prize lucky draw??? tongue.gif brows.gif sweat.gif
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Last night I played Terminator Salvation's gas station scene and was lirerally blown away shocking.gif shocking.gif
This is the first time I felt infrasonic bass in my home notworthy.gif
And this is just the DVD version.Can't wait to lay my hands on the BD
The sofa was giving me a back massage each time the mecha took a step forward and the rumble of the tow truck is astounding.
I am so glad I busted my budget to get this PC12-NSD.
It is worth every sen.
My son cringed in fear watching *ahem* DVD9 version of Jurassic park too. And he's 10 years old doh.gif
To anyone in the market for a sub, this is one you must not miss. thumbup.gif
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if play game lagi strong. how come no one talk abt pb12-nsd.

tested on bd t2 salvation. not bad at all but i cant on too loud.
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knee_drag2002 and Boon3 are having the PB12-NSDs.

mpyw, no lucky draw lah but I have pre-order price for those early birds.


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pb13u or sb13+? sad.gif
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PB12-NSD owner checking-in. Still playing around with the placement of the sub, and having limited options make it even more difficult.

Nevertheless, this is one kick-@$$ sub. My entry level set-up(if you can call it that;a 5 yr old Sony AVR and 5 channel speakers) surprisingly is not overwhelmed by the massive earth-moving bass this sub gives out. Well controlled and the LFE is just awesome.

As in klimal's case, I was also tempted to look for something below my 1.5K budget, but the reviews from fellow SVS sub owners made me change my mind, and I am sure glad I did. Can't wait for the 50 hours 'run-in' period to finish, then I can crank the volume up to 11. Woohoo

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just curious, normally how loud u guys turn on the speaker?

mine max i did is -20, is that normal?
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I also don't do too loud. Usually around -25db and max around 20db.
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I also don't do too loud. Usually around -25db and max around 20db.
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just curious, normally how loud u guys turn on the speaker?

mine max i did is -20, is that normal?
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Same here. Sometimes -18 or -16.
Rerun audyssey few days ago. Sub trim was -3db by audyssey. I added 3db manually.
I set my avr's volume cut off max at -10.

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i see. think i will increase the center volumn
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Same here. Sometimes -18 or -16.
Rerun audyssey few days ago. Sub trim was -3db by audyssey. I added 3db manually.
I set my avr's volume cut off max at -10.
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Wow! Thats a 6dB increase from Audyssey. Do you have a SPL Meter to verify if the speaker levels are matched when u add 6dB to the sub trim?

Run to run variation and the mic variations of +/- 2dB but 6dB seems kinda high.
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i see. think i will increase the center volumn
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some noob question... whats the cross over for? i should connect my speaker here?
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When Max@htkaki calibrated my system with the spl meter, 75db reference level was equivalent to 59 on my onky 607.
I usually watch at the 50 mark.
How will this translate, in terms -db levels?
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QUOTE(klimal @ Feb 11 2010, 11:01 AM)
When Max@htkaki calibrated my system with the spl meter, 75db reference level was equivalent to 59 on my onky 607.
I usually watch at the 50 mark.
How will this translate, in terms -db levels?
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The 59 is in relative terms. If you go into setup, u can change it to absolute and you will know how many dB is its. It depends on your trims as the trims will decide the max dB on Onkyo systems.
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anfieldude,
Oh....i wasn't aware one could change the volume levels to dB .
I have the 607 and need to go thro' the manual again.
Thanks for the heads up!
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Wow! Thats a 6dB increase from Audyssey. Do you have a SPL Meter to verify if the speaker levels are matched when u add 6dB to the sub trim?

Run to run variation and the mic variations of +/- 2dB but 6dB seems kinda high.
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Anfield sifu, I don't have SPL to test. But it sounds good to me. sweat.gif
1st audyssey run: sub trim -2db, manual setting 1db
2nd audyssey run: sub trim -3db, manual setting 0db

I would rerun audyseey later as it was raining that time.
Audyssey trims on other speakers were pretty consistent tho.

There was one time, the volume was put at -10 for like an hour with "This is it".
I didn't notice it until I looked at AVR. The sound was loud but clean and no distortion.


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Anfield sifu, I don't have SPL to test. But it sounds good to me.  sweat.gif
1st audyssey run: sub trim -2db, manual setting 1db
2nd audyssey run: sub trim -3db, manual setting 0db

I would rerun audyseey later as it was raining that time.
Audyssey trims on other speakers were pretty consistent tho.

There was one time, the volume was put at -10 for like an hour with "This is it".
I didn't notice it until I looked at AVR. The sound was loud but clean and no distortion.
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I doubt the PB13 would distort, u don't have anything to worry about that. It has plenty of headroom.

However, what I meant was that it would be hotter than the rest of the speakers. What can happen when it is too hot, is that it can muddle up the rest of the spectrum as it will take longer to decay. However, what's important is what u like...don't worry abt what I blabber. So enjoy ur sub....
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Feb 11 2010, 11:52 AM)
I doubt the PB13 would distort, u don't have anything to worry about that. It has plenty of headroom.

However, what I meant was that it would be hotter than the rest of the speakers. What can happen when it is too hot, is that it can muddle up the rest of the spectrum as it will take longer to decay. However, what's important is what u like...don't worry abt what I blabber. So enjoy ur sub....
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Actually I find PB13 just adequate. Sub gain level is at 10 o'clock.
May be I would need to run another sub.
My fronts and center connected to xpa are overpowering the rest now.
My pocket is 'kosong' and I am having space constraint to place another svs. sweat.gif
Or SB13 would be another better option.

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QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Feb 11 2010, 11:46 AM)
Anfield sifu, I don't have SPL to test. But it sounds good to me.  sweat.gif
1st audyssey run: sub trim -2db, manual setting 1db
2nd audyssey run: sub trim -3db, manual setting 0db

I would rerun audyseey later as it was raining that time.
Audyssey trims on other speakers were pretty consistent tho.

There was one time, the volume was put at -10 for like an hour with "This is it".
I didn't notice it until I looked at AVR. The sound was loud but clean and no distortion.
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Actually, reading thro' the post, ronaldjoe bumps up the sub gain by 3dB over the audyssey setting and not by 6dB.
Hence the confusion I think!
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QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Feb 11 2010, 11:58 AM)
Actually I find PB13 just adequate. Sub gain level is at 10 o'clock.
May be I would need to run another sub.
My fronts and center connected to xpa are overpowering the rest now.
My pocket is 'kosong' and I am having space constraint to place another svs.  sweat.gif
Or SB13 would be another better option.
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Wah, PB13 only "just adequate"?! smile.gif And this is after +3dB hot right?

That means you really like your bass strong. If you feel it's not enough then maybe you can try add another 1-2dB to the sub trim.

Anyway, after you run Audyssey your fronts and center shouldn't overpower the rest.
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QUOTE(klimal @ Feb 11 2010, 12:25 PM)
Actually, reading thro' the post, ronaldjoe bumps up the sub gain by 3dB over the audyssey setting and not by 6dB.
Hence the confusion I think!
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jchong... when's ur turn for svs? whistling.gif
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Still KIV at the moment.
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Wah, PB13 only "just adequate"?!  smile.gif And this is after +3dB hot right?

That means you really like your bass strong. If you feel it's not enough then maybe you can try add another 1-2dB to the sub trim.

Anyway, after you run Audyssey your fronts and center shouldn't overpower the rest.
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Not sure why. Or perhaps the sub is quite fast-paced and clean.
It doesn't feel boomy and stressed out even when it's cranked loud.
The feel is there but it comes and goes very fast.
Quite different from other subs that I owned before.

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turn off audyssey the bass will kick in. true enuf with my marantz.
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turn off audyssey the bass will kick in. true enuf with my marantz.
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turn off audyssey the bass will kick in. true enuf with my marantz.
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Not sure why. Or perhaps the sub is quite fast-paced and clean.
It doesn't feel boomy and stressed out even when it's cranked loud.
The feel is there but it comes and goes very fast.
Quite different from other subs that I owned before.
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Its more accurate I believe. Boomy is a sign of a peak in the bass, not necessarily intended. U never know until u run a frequency chart.
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turn off audyssey the bass will kick in. true enuf with my marantz.
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U like it better this way? Was the bass that high to start with in the track?
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yup donno why when i use audyssey, flat or front the bass is so lame. no shaking impact from the sub. if i off or switch to preset then only i get those. not sure about denon but could give it a try n c.
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Good bye PB2/PLUS, HELLO PB13-ULTRA....

Hello folks. Just wanted to input on the greatness that is the PB13-ULTRA.I am the previously owner of a PB2/PLUS. So upgrading was going to be much harder this time. I really loved my PB2/PLUS. That beast could easily shake the entire house. But I was wanting more down low. Way down low.
So I contacted SVS and asked what would be better, Dual PB12-NSDs or one PB13-ULTRA. As usual SVS got back to me A.S.A.P. And as usual they gave me great advise without any strings attached. And this was on a Sunday! Where can you get that?
I took a gamble, sold the over 4 year old PB2/PLUS (for 750.00!) and ordered the PB13-ULTRA. Textured black, which goes best with kids, as I learned with the PB2/PLUS.
After what seemed like, an extended setup time, I found it's new home.
Same locale as the PB2/PLUS, but different orientation due to the front firing driver.
This thing is more of a beast in every way.Weighs at least 30lbs. more then the PB2/PLUS, and has a couple hundred more cubic inches on the inside. Moving it here there and yonder is quite the job, but worth it.
And all I keep saying is wow. I now know why SVS calls this driver musical.
But not only does it move some air, but it does it quickly and accurately. I cannot believe this thing even keeps up output wise with the PB2/PLUS. This beast bests the PB2/PLUS in upper bass output, JUST passes it in mid-bass, and trumps it in the sub-20 area. I am amazed that a 13in woofer kickes the snot out of my old dual - 12 drivers.
This thing is tight, accurate, loud, and down right mean.If you are on the fence, get off and take the plunge. The really low,low, low plunge...

Just my 2 cents, and thanks for letting me gush...
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I need to turn down the sub gain by at least a couple of dB from the one set by audyssey, whilst watching concerts for the bass to integrate well with the music. Otherwise, it seems to be playing separately and distinct from the music score.
For movies, need to crank up by 3 dB to really enjoy the slam. Is this appropriate ?
What about you guys?
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QUOTE(klimal @ Feb 12 2010, 03:26 PM)
I need to turn down the sub gain by at least a couple of dB from the one set by audyssey, whilst watching concerts for the bass to integrate well with the music. Otherwise, it seems to be playing separately and distinct from the music score.
For movies, need to crank up by 3 dB to really enjoy the slam. Is this appropriate ?
What about you guys?
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My base setting is -5dB via audyssey and spl calibration.
For movies, crank up to -2dB. (locked in the avr)
For concerts, down to -7dB.
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if u properly set ur sub using audyssey so that the db fall between -3 to +3 db then u wouldn't have this problem. once ur sub got tuned properly then only proceed with final round of tuning for the rest of speakers. no need to touch the sub anymore.
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I guess klimal is talking abt the subtleness in bass while watching concert while he wants the slam in movie.

In music or concert, the bass note should never overpowering; i.e. not being run hot. It sld be tuned to 75dB as with the rest. However, most of us like the bass to be hot for movie.

klimal is experiencing certain localization in the sub for concert since the bass is overpowering. He might to explore other placement or the phase setting to get it blends seamlessly.

My 13-Ultra is being set at 75dB. Never run it hot. If the Dyn EQ is switch, it is like 'unleash the beast' thumbup.gif

Pissmad must be enjoying his new toy now. Impressive HT room, I must say.


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Pissmad must be enjoying his new toy now. Impressive HT room, I must say.
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Actually, I did move the sub a little deeper into the corner which seemed to improve the bass response.
Was able to 'feel' it at my prime seating position.

Will adjust phase and see if it helps. Thanks for the suggestion.
The corner placement is the only position that's ideal at the moment. So will not move it unless absolutely necessary.

Does anyone have any experience with REW from the HometheatreShack?
If I wanna just measure my room response, do I need the BFD too?
Thanks.
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Actually, I did move the sub a little deeper into the corner which seemed to improve the bass response.
Was able to 'feel' it at my prime seating position.

Will adjust phase and see if it helps. Thanks for the suggestion.
The corner placement is the only position that's ideal at the moment. So will not move it unless absolutely necessary.

Does anyone have any experience with REW from the HometheatreShack?
If I wanna just measure my room response, do I need the BFD too?
Thanks.
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Bro, you moved the sub deeper into the corner.
Would the gain be overwhelmed or too much?
For my case, I place the sub at the middle of the room.

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tq max! Managed to hook up the baby, initially too hot and then audyssey request that I back down the gain...too much if you ask me...i need to do it again...

ronald...am running a plasma lah...call you when i come back from kampung next week, ok?
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tq max! Managed to hook up the baby, initially too hot and then audyssey request that I back down the gain...too much if you ask me...i need to do it again...

ronald...am running a plasma lah...call you when i come back from kampung next week, ok?
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A happy Tiger year to you and ur family too...may the tiger roar for all of us thru out the year...A gong xi fatt chai to everyone on the forum too!
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Actually, I did move the sub a little deeper into the corner which seemed to improve the bass response.
Was able to 'feel' it at my prime seating position.

Will adjust phase and see if it helps. Thanks for the suggestion.
The corner placement is the only position that's ideal at the moment. So will not move it unless absolutely necessary.

Does anyone have any experience with REW from the HometheatreShack?
If I wanna just measure my room response, do I need the BFD too?
Thanks.
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No need to use BFD for room response checks. BFD is necessary if u are planning to add filters for equalization.

Let me know what help u need with REW.

Get an external soundcard or a soundcard that has a separate line in and line out. Thats vital.

Enjoy REW.

Also of course u need a SPL Meter. Radioshack for response up till 3KHz. Galaxy CM-140 for response up to 15kHz.


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Yday, sent the PB12-Plus over to my friend's home for him to test out during CNY tongue.gif . The SPL1200-R is being temporary 'released' from its duty.

Popped in Terminator Salvation and Kungfu Panda. The PB12-Plus pounded his room like never before even before Audyseey calibration rolleyes.gif . We just did the SPL meter check at 75dB for the sub.

He admitted that the PB12-Plus wins as it is able to dig real deep with enough muscle. The wushu finger hold in Kungfu Panda has his room being pressurized and the sofa even the front single seater were being shakened sweat.gif . My bro sat in front and told me that he can felt it there too. IIRC, the vol is at -12dB. As for Terminator Salvation, it's at abt -16dB. Enough to pound the whole room when we watched the 7 Eleven scene as well as the escape.

He will do the audyssey and try it out again. Shall go there and test out again.

Oh yes, I went to maja's home too to audition his setup. The PC12-Plus is dominating his whole PSB Alpha setup. Everytime the LFE kicks in, it overwhelm the front. I guess it is time for him to upgrade his PSB liao. Btw, his sofa being rumbling. Kinda cheaper ver of 'butt kicker' biggrin.gif .

Still, I am waiting someone to bring Velo DD-18 or F113 to test it out with PB13-Ultra.
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wow pc12+ with alpha? kind of out of league. it's like princess and a frog laugh.gif

he definitely need to upgrade the alpha. at least go with image if he likes psb sound signature.
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QUOTE(arremie @ Feb 14 2010, 11:35 PM)
wow pc12+ with alpha? kind of out of league. it's like princess and a frog laugh.gif

he definitely need to upgrade the alpha. at least go with image if he likes psb sound signature.
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Nevermind about it as he is thinking of going the Klipsch Ref IV way  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Feb 14 2010, 11:09 PM)
Yday, sent the PB12-Plus over to my friend's home for him to test out during CNY tongue.gif . The SPL1200-R is being temporary 'released' from its duty.

Popped in Terminator Salvation and Kungfu Panda. The PB12-Plus pounded his room like never before even before Audyseey calibration rolleyes.gif . We just did the SPL meter check at 75dB for the sub.

He admitted that the PB12-Plus wins as it is able to dig real deep with enough muscle. The wushu finger hold in Kungfu Panda has his room being pressurized and the sofa even the front single seater were being shakened sweat.gif . My bro sat in front and told me that he can felt it there too. IIRC, the vol is at -12dB. As for Terminator Salvation, it's at abt -16dB. Enough to pound the whole room when we watched the 7 Eleven scene as well as the escape.

He will do the audyssey and try it out again. Shall go there and test out again.

Oh yes, I went to maja's home too to audition his setup. The PC12-Plus is dominating his whole PSB Alpha setup. Everytime the LFE kicks in, it overwhelm the front. I guess it is time for him to upgrade his PSB liao. Btw, his sofa being rumbling. Kinda cheaper ver of 'butt kicker' biggrin.gif .

Still, I am waiting someone to bring Velo DD-18 or F113 to test it out with PB13-Ultra.
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Hey boss..i bet JL Audio can do it also..
Absolutely no problem..
The subwoofer amplification is a monster!
2500w of power!
Double Velodyne amplification!


So far,still not yet listen to JL Audio yet.
But a CMY dude claimed that its even better than Velodyne and probably one of the best sub!
He listen to it before which i think somewhere in Singapore.
The room is 22x45 and even with one subwoofer its already enough!
Even CMY workers recommended me F113 rather than REL.


No time to listen it since im busy with my new hse renovation and CNY projects for my company..
Should listen to F113 or Sunfire TSEQ12 one day..
And by the way,after lots of Hi fi shop opinion,JL Audio seems to be my next sub rather than Velodyne..

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QUOTE(benben79 @ Feb 17 2010, 01:21 AM)
Hey boss..i bet JL Audio can do it also..
Absolutely no problem..
The subwoofer amplification is a monster!
2500w of power!
Double Velodyne amplification!
So far,still not yet listen to JL Audio yet.
But a CMY dude claimed that its even better than Velodyne and probably one of the best sub!
He listen to it before which i think somewhere in Singapore.
The room is 22x45 and even with one subwoofer its already enough!
Even CMY workers recommended me F113 rather than REL.
No time to listen it since im busy with my new hse renovation and CNY projects for my company..
Should listen to F113 or Sunfire TSEQ12 one day..
And by the way,after lots of Hi fi shop opinion,JL Audio seems to be my next sub rather than Velodyne..
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BTW : Welcome back...

So which sub did u actually buy? F113 in da house already?

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QUOTE(benben79 @ Feb 17 2010, 01:21 AM)
Hey boss..i bet JL Audio can do it also..
Absolutely no problem..
The subwoofer amplification is a monster!
2500w of power!
Double Velodyne amplification!
So far,still not yet listen to JL Audio yet.
But a CMY dude claimed that its even better than Velodyne and probably one of the best sub!
He listen to it before which i think somewhere in Singapore.
The room is 22x45 and even with one subwoofer its already enough!
Even CMY workers recommended me F113 rather than REL.
No time to listen it since im busy with my new hse renovation and CNY projects for my company..
Should listen to F113 or Sunfire TSEQ12 one day..
And by the way,after lots of Hi fi shop opinion,JL Audio seems to be my next sub rather than Velodyne..
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Bro, better go listen to F113 and SVS yourself first before you put the hammer down.
Comment given by CMY dude doesn't help much and the feedback is not constructive.
You might consider the upcoming SB16 since the price would be in the range of F113 as well.
For the price of F113, I would rather get Paradigm Sub 25 (personal view).

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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Feb 13 2010, 01:12 PM)
No need to use BFD for room response checks. BFD is necessary if u are planning to add filters for equalization.

Let me know what help u need with REW.

Get an external soundcard or a soundcard that has a separate line in and line out. Thats vital.

Enjoy REW.

Also of course u need a SPL Meter. Radioshack for response up till 3KHz. Galaxy CM-140 for response up to 15kHz.
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Gong Xi Fa Chai,
Thanks for the advise and the kind offer of help. Really appreciate it
Looks like I'll have to get the sound card and spl meter first.
Any suggestion as to the make and model of the sound card and the est fair price?
This HT virus is slowly getting an obsessive hold over me rclxub.gif
Cheers,
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QUOTE(benben79 @ Feb 17 2010, 01:21 AM)
Hey boss..i bet JL Audio can do it also..
Absolutely no problem..
The subwoofer amplification is a monster!
2500w of power!
Double Velodyne amplification!
So far,still not yet listen to JL Audio yet.
But a CMY dude claimed that its even better than Velodyne and probably one of the best sub!
He listen to it before which i think somewhere in Singapore.
The room is 22x45 and even with one subwoofer its already enough!
Even CMY workers recommended me F113 rather than REL.
No time to listen it since im busy with my new hse renovation and CNY projects for my company..
Should listen to F113 or Sunfire TSEQ12 one day..
And by the way,after lots of Hi fi shop opinion,JL Audio seems to be my next sub rather than Velodyne..
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rclxms.gif  Extremely happy for u....

BTW : Welcome back...

So which sub did u actually buy? F113 in da house already?
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its been a while since i post anything here.
anyway happy CNY bro!
Nope not yet..
Still finding a free time to listen to F113 whether *ngam* or not wink.gif


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Bro, better go listen to F113 and SVS yourself first before you put the hammer down.
Comment given by CMY dude doesn't help much and the feedback is not constructive.
You might consider the upcoming SB16 since the price would be in the range of F113 as well.
For the price of F113, I would rather get Paradigm Sub 25 (personal view).
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SVS SB16?
owhh..
im kinda confused when you told me SB16 but after i read all the old post,then only i realize..
Btw im not kinda interested on SVS products..
Their low frequency specification is amazing,but their power is still lower compare to JL Audio nor Sunfire.
Plus their size is too big..
But yet SVS is a great sub but not my cup of tea whistling.gif
And sub25 is too expensive.
If kena Jackpot,surely Sub25 since it can go to 9HZ and 3000w thumbup.gif


But I still consider JL Audio F113 since its not over my budget limit..
Velodyne DD15 or DD18 is too expensive too..
So no hope of buying DD15 or DD18 anymore sad.gif
Thats why i might consider F113 or F112.


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notworthy.gif sorry..
Guess i should stop mention other sub in this thread..

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QUOTE(benben79 @ Feb 17 2010, 01:57 PM)

SVS SB16?
owhh..
im kinda confused when you told me SB16 but after i read all the old post,then only i realize..
Btw im not kinda interested on SVS products..
Their low frequency specification is amazing,but their power is still lower compare to JL Audio nor Sunfire.
Plus their size is too big..
But yet SVS is a great sub but not my cup of tea whistling.gif
And sub25 is too expensive.
If kena Jackpot,surely Sub25 since it can go to 9HZ and 3000w  thumbup.gif

But I still consider JL Audio F113 since its not over my budget limit..
Velodyne DD15 or DD18 is too expensive too..
So no hope of buying DD15 or DD18 anymore sad.gif
Thats why i might consider F113 or F112.
I still find sub 25 is more value for money for the price.
It's personal choice. That's why we have different products for different folks.
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I am still waiting for benben79 to buy F113 to allow me to bring the PC13-Ultra for a showdown thumbup.gif . The previous F113 'owner' did not reply my request for it. Although it's a long wait, I am sure benben79 would get it soon wink.gif Then, we shall a small gathering for the showdown at his place to test out some BDs with both subs.

ronaldjoe, the Paradigm Sub25 is indeed the best sealed sub under RM25K in the mart for now. The SB16-Ultra should be about the same size as Sub25. The SB12-NSD is a compact 14" x 14" x 14". Sld be here by May 2010.

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Feb 18 2010, 08:46 AM)
I am still waiting for benben79 to buy F113 to allow me to bring the PC13-Ultra for a showdown thumbup.gif . The previous F113 'owner' did not reply my request for it. Although it's a long wait, I am sure benben79 would get it soon  wink.gif Then, we shall a small gathering for the showdown at his place to test out some BDs with both subs.

ronaldjoe, the Paradigm Sub25 is indeed the best sealed sub under RM25K in the mart for now. The SB16-Ultra should be about the same size as Sub25. The SB12-NSD is a compact 14" x 14" x 14". Sld be here by May 2010.
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QUOTE(arremie @ Feb 14 2010, 11:35 PM)
wow pc12+ with alpha? kind of out of league. it's like princess and a frog laugh.gif

he definitely need to upgrade the alpha. at least go with image if he likes psb sound signature.
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Thinking of upgrade to rf52 r any other that can match my denon n pc12. Any suggestions from sifu here?

Planning to let go of my PSB Alpha T. Anyone interested please pm me.And bro arremie if u want to upgrade yr rf52 do let me know biggrin.gif

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Matrix revisit with the nsd. The machine gun and the slow motion kf really good. Happy with my choice
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QUOTE(JiauBoy @ Feb 23 2010, 04:31 PM)
Matrix revisit with the nsd. The machine gun and the slow motion kf really good. Happy with my choice
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Even the *ahem* bd ripped DVD 9 sounds and feels like I'm in a THX certified cinema hall
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Glad to hear that both of you are enjoying the sub. Makes you want to watch all your movie again, eh?

btw, PC13-Ultra habis liao...


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btw, PC13-Ultra habis liao...
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they must be proud of u rclxms.gif
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Another member to add to the PB13-Ultra clan, veli low profile, pratt biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(arremie @ Feb 23 2010, 11:25 PM)
it's just a phone call away to get some more biggrin.gif

they must be proud of u rclxms.gif
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err... i actually 'ate' into their inventory already. So, need to forecast it more accurately sweat.gif They ran out of stock for most models in order to support me blush.gif

The PB13-Ultra also habis liao. Now, need to get the remaining stock in. On latest count :

PB13-Ultra : 3x eta mid Mar
PB12-Plus : 1x
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PB12-NSD : 2x (jz sold one yday)

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Taukeh sells SVS like 'chipsmore'. Now you see now you don't. laugh.gif
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To the Bass Nuts....US version of "2012" audio reviw:-

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This lossless DTS-HD Master Audio soundtrack is demonstration quality and is sure to please those who like to play their systems loud. This recording has wide dynamic range and boasts superlative clarity and high level detail that is truly impressive. Dialogue is definitive and appreciably lucid through the center channel as it reaches far into the room. It’s located just slightly in front of the left/right speakers within the acoustic space it occupies in the soundfield. I never had any trouble distinguishing even the slightest changes in the pitch or inflection of voices. Front channel separation and imaging was excellent. This drew out both large and small sound elements and allowed their directional correlation based upon the onscreen events to be definable. The mix makes effective and often aggressive use of the surround channels to elongate the front soundstage and reproduce the spatial and discrete sounds of this demanding soundtrack. The listening position is submerged in a rotating soundscape that is sometimes riveting as it bombards the senses with a combination of well placed sound effects and musical ambiance. The low frequency effects are applied authoritatively to underscore the bombastic and aggressive aspects of this soundtrack and it does so quite effectively. This mix delivers bass that runs the low frequency spectrum as it fills the room with refined bass quality that is appreciably superior and on occasion skin tingling. This is a sophisticated sound design that is loaded with various sound effects, spatial cues, music, and dialogue. Each was clearly represented with enriching clarity, detail and appropriate sound field placement.


So, for those already got the Speedy version and not satisfied with it....will you double dip??? brows.gif brows.gif tongue.gif
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I will. Count me in!

Aiks... I am short of Ultra sub. Only one PB-U to unleash the 'hell'. Nvm, can rope in the PC12-Plus while waiting for PC-U tongue.gif .

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err... i actually 'ate' into their inventory already. So, need to forecast it more accurately  sweat.gif They ran out of stock for most models in order to support me  blush.gif
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Tq but still nothing compares to big players like CMY, A&L, CMS, AV Synergy, and Asia Sound smile.gif

Just a small timer making a living.

The price for SB12-NSD and SB13-Plus will be announced soon. I mean special pre-order price but with limited units. It should be here by June.
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Feb 24 2010, 02:25 PM)
Tq but still nothing compares to big players like CMY, A&L, CMS, AV Synergy, and Asia Sound smile.gif 

Just a small timer making a living.

The price for SB12-NSD and SB13-Plus will be announced soon. I mean special pre-order price but with limited units. It should be here by  June.
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drool.gif Need to pay upfront first?
The waiting time is a bit long.

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Yes, in order to reserve the unit for you.
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Tq but still nothing compares to big players like CMY, A&L, CMS, AV Synergy, and Asia Sound smile.gif 
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One day you will get there...
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Tks a lot. Hopefully. Now, it's swim or sink.

Btw,

PB13-Ultra : 3x eta mid Mar (1 unit being reserved for a VIP)
PB12-Plus : 1x
PC12-Plus : 3x (reserved 1 for a cust up North)
PB12-NSD : 2x (jz sold one yday)
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Feb 24 2010, 10:43 PM)
Tks a lot. Hopefully. Now, it's swim or sink.

Btw,

PB13-Ultra : 3x eta mid Mar (1 unit being reserved for a VIP)
PB12-Plus : 1x
PC12-Plus : 3x (reserved 1 for a cust up North)
PB12-NSD : 2x (jz sold one yday)
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SVS-ers....

I would advise u to revisit I-Robot with ur SVS. I believe this was released at a time when most of u did not have a bass giant. Pay some dues to Proyas's flick and u shd be in for a bass treat.....Really low bass treat.
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SVS-ers....

I would advise u to revisit I-Robot with ur SVS. I believe this was released at a time when most of u did not have a bass giant. Pay some dues to Proyas's flick and u shd be in for a bass treat.....Really low bass treat.
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Which scene is it?
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Which scene is it?
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The tunnel scene for one. The seems to be low bass through out the movie.
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The tunnel scene for one. The seems to be low bass through out the movie.
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Feb 24 2010, 02:25 PM)
Tq but still nothing compares to big players like CMY, A&L, CMS, AV Synergy, and Asia Sound smile.gif 

Just a small timer making a living.

The price for SB12-NSD and SB13-Plus will be announced soon. I mean special pre-order price but with limited units. It should be here by  June.
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boss SB-13plus or PB-13U ? or 16"er? got news on that?
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It will be PB12-NSD (which is claimed to be outperformed the obsolete SB12-Plus) and SB13-Plus. The SB13-Plus would be lower than the price of PB12-Plus while the SB12-NSD would be about the price of PB12-NSD. I shall let you guys know once there is confirmation on this.

I think that the SB16-Ultra will only be out by end 2010. But, it would breach the 5 figs mark.


Added on March 1, 2010, 2:22 pmWe have a new SVS owner in da house. simonst with his PB12-NSD thumbup.gif .

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Anfieldude said they are some scene in I, Robot generate very good LFE, the car chase scene ... gonna try it again.....brows.gif
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I tarak I, Robot. Sold it off dy. Can't test it.
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QUOTE(mpyw @ Mar 2 2010, 10:05 PM)
Anfieldude said they are some scene in I, Robot generate very good LFE, the car chase scene ... gonna try it again.....brows.gif
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Actually the LFE is all around. There are plenty of low LFE moments.
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what's the cheapest SVS sub available locally?

is there SB10-NSD?

i'm looking for a small and powerful sub.
when will SB12-NSD arrive here? i heard got special pre-order price tongue.gif

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SB10-NSD might only make it into the market by mid 2010. It is still under development in US.

The SB12-NSD is est to be launched in May/June 2010.
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Taukeh when is the next demo? Something like below biggrin.gif
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You can browse the shop's photos here :

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/pa...18786718?flyingspaghettimonster=nf

and also here but limited photos :

http://hi-fi-avenue.blogspot.com/2010/03/m...ertainment.html

Won't be that monstrous 4 subs for my audio room. When you have time, please come.
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Saw the pb and pc 13 ultras at a in shop desa park city today (pioneer shop upstairs). They were testing both of them with the jbl everest speakers and a pioneer susano amp. Some big mama speakers n woofers.

They told me fresh from your shop.

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QUOTE(andyz @ Mar 6 2010, 07:29 PM)
Saw the pb and pc 13 ultras at a in shop desa park city today (pioneer shop upstairs). They were testing both of them with the jbl everest speakers and a pioneer susano amp. Some big mama speakers n woofers.

They told me fresh from your shop.
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The boss invited me to have a closed audition of the JBL and SVS before moving it to the venue. I shall be going there early next week smile.gif
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Mar 6 2010, 09:37 PM)
The boss invited me to have a closed audition of the JBL and SVS before moving it to the venue. I shall be going there early next week smile.gif
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Let me check with him since he does not wish to have too many ppl. Will call you abt the arrangement.

Btw, I did some tweaking and positioning in my audio room. It sounds better than last week. However, there is still room for improvement.
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Today went to htkaki new shop and tested the PB13-Ultra. One word, superb keng! flex.gif flex.gif maybe next time i bring soda and popcorn during weekends

If got proper HT room & $$ sure get one svs sub blush.gif

I planned to watch a movie tonight but maybe next time coz the experience is still fresh. unsure.gif
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QUOTE(butter finger @ Mar 6 2010, 09:53 PM)
Today went to htkaki new shop and tested the PB13-Ultra. One word, superb keng!  flex.gif  flex.gif maybe next time i bring soda and popcorn during weekends

If got proper HT room & $$ sure get one svs sub blush.gif

I planned to watch a movie tonight but maybe next time coz the experience is still fresh. unsure.gif
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Nice meeting you too.

Can I charge RM8 tongue.gif ? It is not at its best yet. Once the MTS-01 is back and after I managed to solve the room acoustic issue, it would be a whole better than now smile.gif

izmel_s came too with his Metallica BD. He is very impressed. He won't be watching it at his home tonight too sweat.gif
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Mar 6 2010, 10:00 PM)
Nice meeting you too.

Can I charge RM8  tongue.gif ? It is not at its best yet. Once the MTS-01 is back and after I managed to solve the room acoustic issue, it would be a whole better than now smile.gif

izmel_s came too with his Metallica BD. He is very impressed. He won't be watching it at his home tonight too  sweat.gif
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The new sealed sub sounds tempting but then again i need to upgrade all speaker to match it, haha
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At this moment im seriously considering going for either a power amp or a sub. Curious on SB12-NSD price. Good for music? As im using it for music only. Shipping to Sarawak berapa for something this heavy. PB12-NSD and PC12-NSD seems interesting as well but they are ported. However i read somewhere tis does not transalate that this subs are bad for music and that ported subs are more efficient and less power sucking, is this true? PB12-NSD is huge though. I prefer the tube look more lol.

A friend in Brunei wanted me to ask whether HTKaki is the dealer for Brunei as well or does he have to go to SVS directly? He lives in Kuala Belait.

Reason im suddenly considering a sub would be because the avsforum forumers suggest that perhaps im looking for sub bass which my speaker is not good at. They say my speaker is great highs, mid and mid bass which i agree but poor on sub bass. And they say a rotel power amp might not be my answer. So im still wondering what to do. They recommended me to audit Rel R305 but i have a feeling that is uber expensive. I listen a lot of vocal but sometimes i listen to Jolin, Jay, Leehom, BEP, LinkinPark, etc too which needs some feel to it.

For now i wanna figure a way to audit my speaker with a power amp first and see if my speakers are really underpowered.

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htkaki max taukeh...please reply me with the price of the subwoofers.

how long does it take to order the svs sub?
does it comes with the svs sub cable?
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Mar 6 2010, 10:00 PM)
Nice meeting you too.

Can I charge RM8  tongue.gif ? It is not at its best yet. Once the MTS-01 is back and after I managed to solve the room acoustic issue, it would be a whole better than now smile.gif

izmel_s came too with his Metallica BD. He is very impressed. He won't be watching it at his home tonight too  sweat.gif
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I think charging RM8 is still very worthwhile to watch the entire movie at htkaki showroom rather than paying something like RM10 for cinema crap SQ. thumbup.gif


Imagine no other disturbance like hp ringing, ppl laughing noises, no advertisements, seating position not ideal so on in the cineplex for that matter, not to mention all the true-audio equipped & monster svs sub in the showroom........... icon_rolleyes.gif


Added on March 7, 2010, 12:52 pmThe only setback is.....obviously left a hole in the pocket sooner as the chances of getting posioned are pretty high.








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QUOTE(mikapoh @ Mar 7 2010, 12:51 PM)
I think charging RM8 is still very worthwhile to watch the entire movie at htkaki showroom rather than paying something like RM10 for cinema crap SQ.  thumbup.gif
Imagine no other disturbance like hp ringing, ppl laughing noises, no advertisements, seating position not ideal so on in the cineplex for that matter, not to mention all the  true-audio equipped & monster svs sub in the showroom........... icon_rolleyes.gif


Added on March 7, 2010, 12:52 pmThe only setback is.....obviously left a hole in the pocket sooner as the chances of getting posioned are pretty high.
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i wont charge money to my customers... just the compulsory booze they must bring along biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(dlyz @ Mar 7 2010, 09:03 AM)
At this moment im seriously considering going for either a power amp or a sub. Curious on SB12-NSD price. Good for music? As im using it for music only. Shipping to Sarawak berapa for something this heavy. PB12-NSD and PC12-NSD seems interesting as well but they are ported. However i read somewhere tis does not transalate that this subs are bad for music and that ported subs are more efficient and less power sucking, is this true? PB12-NSD is huge though. I prefer the tube look more lol.

A friend in Brunei wanted me to ask whether HTKaki is the dealer for Brunei as well or does he have to go to SVS directly? He lives in Kuala Belait.

Reason im suddenly considering a sub would be because the avsforum forumers suggest that perhaps im looking for sub bass which my speaker is not good at. They say my speaker is great highs, mid and mid bass which i agree but poor on sub bass. And they say a rotel power amp might not be my answer. So im still wondering what to do. They recommended me to audit Rel R305 but i have a feeling that is uber expensive. I listen a lot of vocal but sometimes i listen to Jolin, Jay, Leehom, BEP, LinkinPark, etc too which needs some feel to it.

For now i wanna figure a way to audit my speaker with a power amp first and see if my speakers are really underpowered.
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Curious, how many of you listen to 2ch music with their SVS? Or you guys turn it off?
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purist often argue that 2-ch is the best way to listen to music...

i tend to disagree with that notion and often use a 5.1 for my headbangin... smile.gif

Sometimes a bit of punchy LFE is just more entertaining...
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I guess some songs do need sub to make it more interesting. I feel annoyed when i listen to Linkin Park and Black Eye Pea with no slam. Tis apply to my speaker. When i used my friends Diamond 8.4, i could enjoy the songs without sub unlike my speaker. Perhaps the reason is cos the 84. can go down to 30hz? My speaker only reaches 40hz.

But when come to Tsai Chin, Teresa Teng, Enya, Katie Melua, Norah Jones, im happy, but i also wonder what a sub can do for those song. Perhaps nothing at all as i believe these songs dont have sub bass. Can any forumer advise? Thats why im looking into SVS now. drool.gif

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Hello, newbie here. Currently hunting for HT set.
After hearing so many good things about SVS, from friends and everywhere...
I think I will most probably get a PB12-NSD...
(Must still find time to visit maxx for audition...)

A quick opinion poll...
Which set would make a better match for SVS sub?
KEF iQ10 + iQ50 + iQ60C
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PSB Image T5 + C5 + B4?
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QUOTE(wkw7889 @ Mar 8 2010, 04:18 PM)
Hello, newbie here. Currently hunting for HT set.
After hearing so many good things about SVS, from friends and everywhere...
I think I will most probably get a PB12-NSD...
(Must still find time to visit maxx for audition...)

A quick opinion poll...
Which set would make a better match for SVS sub?
KEF iQ10 + iQ50 + iQ60C
or
PSB Image T5 + C5 + B4?
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Correct me if im wrong but shoudnt the sub match the speaker instead of speaker match the sub?
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I've been using the SVS AS-EQ1 for some time now and I think it is a fantastic piece of equipment. Bass is much more refined compared to Standard Audyssey Multi EQ XT and well controlled.

I would recommend those looking for accurate bass to give it a try and its an absolute must for those with 2 or more subs!
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I've been using the SVS AS-EQ1 for some time now and I think it is a fantastic piece of equipment. Bass is much more refined compared to Standard Audyssey Multi EQ XT and well controlled.

I would recommend those looking for accurate bass to give it a try and its an absolute must for those with 2 or more subs!
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QUOTE(dlyz @ Mar 8 2010, 12:01 PM)
I guess some songs do need sub to make it more interesting. I feel annoyed when i listen to Linkin Park and Black Eye Pea with no slam. Tis apply to my speaker. When i used my friends Diamond 8.4, i could enjoy the songs without sub unlike my speaker. Perhaps the reason is cos the 84. can go down to 30hz? My speaker only reaches 40hz.

But when come to Tsai Chin, Teresa Teng, Enya, Katie Melua, Norah Jones, im happy, but i also wonder what a sub can do for those song. Perhaps nothing at all as i believe these songs dont have sub bass. Can any forumer advise? Thats why im looking into SVS now.  drool.gif
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you should PM jwyj since he is in Miri and he owns a PC12-NSD.

Very few musical instruments can produce well below 40Hz. Those digital music can go down well below that since it is remastered by the sound engineer. A sub comes to play when your main speakers have limitation in producing bass below certain LFE freq. It helps to 'promote' low extension.

Ever wonder why many audiophiles say that Aaron Neville XRCD is not that good and boomy? When you have a good system (floorstander) that can produce full range freq (20Hz to 20kHz), you will find that its bass is quite boomy by 'nature'. But, it ain't so and probably sounds good for those who is using standmount speakers that probably can go down to 45Hz only.

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Oh, i thought his was the higher end series. I remember wrongly. I am more interested in the SB12-NSD because of size factor and more low key.

So far any songs that use instruments sounds great for my speaker. I guess the sub is for the shiok factor for those digital bass.



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2 ch means no sub liao mar..... sweat.gif
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do you normally listen as 2.1? or just depend the song?
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If all goes well, a SB13-Plus will be heading its way to my showroom by May 2010. This probably will be followed by SVS 7channels ICE power amp.
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do you normally listen as 2.1? or just depend the song?
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Those of you with good sub should really go to test out BlueMan Group "Audio" DVD-A (Playable using normal DVD Player)

in dts 5.1, feel the LFE pressure and the drum beats...wonderful sound....thumbup.gif
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Boss, can pinjam and let me try blush.gif ?
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Boss, can pinjam and let me try  blush.gif ?
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The one area which I think the SVS AS-EQ1 is very good is in the way it controls the bass for concerts. Typically, there will be room nodes and peaks and valleys. These peaks tend to make people like the bass when watching movies as it builds up in your room. The problem happens when you watch a concert, suddenly the bass guitars sound too boomy. As I use a ported sub, the SVS AS-EQ1 improves the bass response such that the concerts sound so much better. The bass guitar notes now stand out as if they were being struck, when there is boominess the guitar string being struck is normally lost. If u r the kind that just wants bass, u might not appreciate it, but those who are meticulous will know what I mean.
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no problem pinjam to BIG taukeh  nod.gif
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Tqvm smile.gif Btw, I think you have a typo there or you referred to the wrong person blush.gif

Small timer here sweat.gif No where near ar188's status or even chewkl whistling.gif

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Mar 12 2010, 02:39 PM)
Tqvm  smile.gif Btw, I think you have a typo there or you referred to the wrong person  blush.gif

Small timer here sweat.gif  No where near ar188's status or even chewkl  whistling.gif

Btw, I'll courier the Terminator Salvation to you tmw. PM me the mailing add  wink.gif
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Eh bro M hvnt seen T4 ah.. watever d rvws said tis is a must see oso if u jus a teensy bit enjoyed James Cameron initial classic..
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Bro htkaki, can let me know how much it is to ship in something like pc12-nsd to miri? i wanna do an estimate. quite interested this model and the soon to be released sb12-nsd.
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QUOTE(dirtrun @ Mar 12 2010, 04:07 PM)
Eh bro M hvnt seen T4 ah.. watever d rvws said tis is a must see oso if u jus a teensy bit enjoyed James Cameron initial classic..
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seen T4 liao...just some other arrange with htTAUKEH brows.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(wkw7889 @ Mar 8 2010, 04:18 PM)
Hello, newbie here. Currently hunting for HT set.
After hearing so many good things about SVS, from friends and everywhere...
I think I will most probably get a PB12-NSD...
(Must still find time to visit maxx for audition...)

A quick opinion poll...
Which set would make a better match for SVS sub?
KEF iQ10 + iQ50 + iQ60C
or
PSB Image T5 + C5 + B4?
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For home theatre use, i think the svs sub wud be able to match any of your speaker selection. Personally, i prefered and bought the Kef iQ50 + iQ60c. Would recommend u to take the iQ30 instead of iQ10 for the surround if u are choosing this route. Let me qualify tho that i am not particularly over demanding in my taste, thus the svs + the iQ satisfy me tremendously ..... moreover the iQ design is very wife friendly ,, hehehehe.

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seen T4 liao...just some other arrange with htTAUKEH  brows.gif  brows.gif
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Haha..

I c... intermediary ah.. gud gud..





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You can browse the shop's photos here :

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/pa...hettimonster=nf

and also here but limited photos :

http://hi-fi-avenue.blogspot.com/2010/03/m...ertainment.html

Won't be that monstrous 4 subs for my audio room. When you have time, please come.
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i see the shop Maxx Audio Visual Trading Sdn Bhd is htkaki shop ????
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Logit,
Welcomed back.
There is dual PB13 set up for boom boom pow at Desa City Park, KL.
Please go there and feel yourself. Then you order 2 PB13 from htkaki, boom boom pow in Penang street. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Mar 13 2010, 12:59 PM)
Logit,
Welcomed back.
There is dual PB13 set up for boom  boom pow at Desa City Park, KL.
Please go there and feel yourself. Then you order 2 PB13 from htkaki, boom boom pow in Penang street. biggrin.gif
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ronaldjoe, did you go?

After tomorrow, there will be only be one PB13-Ultra on demo. It will be 2x 13-Ultra setup again once the new shipment reached here.

logit asked me to test an audio clip (he sent the link) wt 13-Ultra but I can not replicate the audio to him coz diff ppl got diff preference sweat.gif . Moreover, aint got time to do that as I still need to do improvement for my HT room rclxub.gif .
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Mar 13 2010, 10:11 PM)
ronaldjoe, did you go?

After tomorrow, there will be only be one PB13-Ultra on demo. It will be 2x 13-Ultra setup again once the new shipment reached here.

logit asked me to test an audio clip (he sent the link) wt 13-Ultra but I can not replicate the audio to him coz diff ppl got diff preference sweat.gif . Moreover, aint got time to do that as I still need to do improvement for my HT room rclxub.gif .
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Taukeh,
I didn't go. I rushed back to hometown to attend funeral.
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i see the shop Maxx Audio Visual Trading Sdn Bhd is htkaki shop ????
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if u do visit his shop pls bring a few biji of Happy5 for htkaki... he needs it b4 and after serving u...
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rclxub.gif need no kua if logit85 visit. Drug say to no sweat.gif .

Btw, for all SVS owners, can you please take photos of your setup and e-mail to svs-msia@htkaki.com? Tqvm thumbup.gif
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htTAUKEH loan me the MSC-01
which is a blardy GIANT center
The 1st word my wife saw it and she said:"What a BIG BIG potato!! Don't you ever dream of buying that and put in the living room!!" sweat.gif
There goes my intention of owning it tongue.gif

A simply 1st time review as compared to my Axiom VP150

Appearance
HUGH!!! it's even larger than my Emotiva XPA-3!! and weight 17kgs!!
the height of the speakers blocked slightly like 1cm of my TV which is 9" from the table sweat.gif
The reflection of the Piano finished is a turn off as it reflected everything from my screen...

Setup
Simple enough, just unplug my the Vp150 and plug in my Kimble Kable with dual spring banana plug and there it goes....but 1st need to "hug" the thing from the box to the table lar tongue.gif

The sound
Ok, the most important part.
processed by marantz SR6003 and powered by Emotiva XPA-3, since the unit had been run in at TAUKEH's place, I just crank it up.
Tonal balance are blend nicely with my Axiom M60 main. Did not run any calibration, just pop in "Celine Dion: Live in Vegas" and select the song I Am Alive.....immediately notice the clarity and more dynamic mid range as compared with the VP150

Then, I put in Storm Warrior II, the opening scene with dts-ma 7.1 selected, when "Mou Meng" engage "Man Kiem Kuai Zhong", the sound were terrific, can literally felt the swords are flying around you, and with the MSC-01, the knocking sound of the flying swords and more realistic than the VP150, and the dialog from "Chiit Mou San" also clearer even he spoke very softly and less muffle like in VP150

after that, pop in "AFQ Live" concert.....in dts-ma 5.1, I felt a more vibrant guitar sound and notice improvement on small details from the larger woofer (6.5" vs 5.25" of the VP150) and 2 big bass port at the back. Those size really helps bring out the sound of the concert.....

The thing cost RM3k++ vs the VP150 at RM2.1k (incl tax), worth it?
Yes if you have a big room, but on a smaller room, unless u wanna play really loud, the 33% more money you pay might not be able to be fully utilised.

Just my take.....

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Boss, MCS-01 is nothing compares to Taukeh Ronald's gigantic RC-64. That alone already weights in at 27.7kg sweat.gif

The good thing about MCS-01 is that it still holds to itself when you crank it right up to reference level as been witnessed during the product launching smile.gif

I seldom use subtitle after acquiring MCS-01.

When you have time, do drop by my place. I shall let you experience the complete MTS system wink.gif
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QUOTE(wkw7889 @ Mar 8 2010, 04:18 PM)
Hello, newbie here. Currently hunting for HT set.
After hearing so many good things about SVS, from friends and everywhere...
I think I will most probably get a PB12-NSD...
(Must still find time to visit maxx for audition...)

A quick opinion poll...
Which set would make a better match for SVS sub?
KEF iQ10 + iQ50 + iQ60C
or
PSB Image T5 + C5 + B4?
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QUOTE(eye @ Mar 13 2010, 12:06 AM)
For home theatre use, i think the svs sub wud be able to match any of your speaker selection. Personally, i prefered and bought the Kef iQ50 + iQ60c. Would recommend u to take the iQ30 instead of iQ10 for the surround if u are choosing this route. Let me qualify tho that i am not particularly over demanding in my taste, thus the svs + the iQ satisfy me tremendously ..... moreover the iQ design is very wife friendly ,, hehehehe.
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I was about to post the very same thing. I wouldn't recommend going for the iQ10 for your LS/RS. For LSB/RSB is still acceptable. A better combo would be iQ30 + 50 + 60C. You should note that the iQ30 and iQ50 are similar, except 30 is bookshelf and 50 are floorstanders. If budget permit, ditch the 50 and go for the iQ70s. Your 2-channel music will thank you for it.
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My plaster ceiling have a nasty crack. I think its the PC12+'s fault. Too much vibration. Hope that it will not cause more crack that might result in expensive workover.
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Haha,

Talkin abt earth shakin..

De other day.. my kids frnds watched Coraline n there are sum gud bass scenes in tat flick.. anyway to cut a long story short .. de kids comments were n I quote
' Wah!! u can feel de whole room shake wan woh..'
n tis is cumin frm a teen ager who is only tellin it like it is - no hampin it up like an adults adulation over his gear n has a way wif words..

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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Mar 26 2010, 04:11 PM)
My plaster ceiling have a nasty crack.  I think its the PC12+'s fault.  Too much vibration.  Hope that it will not cause more crack that might result in expensive workover.
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Wow...... sweat.gif This is the second case that I hear of. Do you normally listen at rather high vol?

An audiophiles who bought a PC12-NSD from me happily told me that the sub is doing its job when we were at Hi-Way Laser chatting. How? Abt a 2 feet crack appeared sweat.gif
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Mine is about 3-4 ft crack and very visible. I like bass and the problem is some movies you don't get much of it. Other have some serious bass that really rather the whole house and you can really see the plaster ceiling taking a beating.

I have a energy saving downlight right above the sub. During those low vibration time, I can see the downlight vibrating up and down.

During Chinese New Year, I hang some lanterns on the 6 downlights in my living room and when my friend came over, i show them what my sub can do. During that time, four of the laterns drop off.

My friend who order the PC12+ with me together with the 7.1 SVS speakers just recently finish his new home and I help him setup his new system. He also mention that the HT room ceiling is vibrating too much as we can both see with powder on the floor.
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That's a long crack that you have there sweat.gif

I never quite like plaster ceiling as it tends to vibrate easily. Mine is normal wood ceiling. My Ultra did once 'knock' down a photo frame out of the bookcase behind listening area.
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Mar 26 2010, 10:02 PM)
That's a long crack that you have there sweat.gif

I never quite like plaster ceiling as it tends to vibrate easily. Mine is normal wood ceiling. My Ultra did once 'knock' down a photo frame out of the bookcase behind listening area.
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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Mar 26 2010, 09:24 PM)


I have a energy saving downlight right above the sub.  During those low vibration time, I can see the downlight vibrating up and down. 

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Wow, seems like your downlight is enjoying the low bass & is dancing to the tune rclxms.gif



Any other svs owners who have more to share about the impact it cause to the surroundings.....I think it is pretty interesting to read.









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QUOTE(mikapoh @ Mar 26 2010, 10:37 PM)
Htkaki, do you think a subdude beneath the sub can help it tighten up the bass a little more?? Are we able to audition that with & without?

Any other svs owners who have more to share about the impact it cause to the surroundings.....I think it is pretty interesting to read.
yes. U r able to hear the diff with a subdude.

Best thus far wld be arj. His dad ran downstair think'g what happened when pc13-Ultra shook the 1st floor. His setup is at downstair.

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How much is the subdude? Can you help to get one for me?





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Posting an old pic. Do Re Mi of Auralex Great Gramma, Gramma and Subdude. Missing the premium brother SubdudeHD.
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If getting only one subdude should be around RM290. Shipping to East should be around RM40 to RM50.
Just a rough estimate.

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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Mar 26 2010, 09:24 PM)
Mine is about 3-4 ft crack and very visible.  I like bass and the problem is some movies you don't get much of it.  Other have some serious bass that really rather the whole house and you can really see the plaster ceiling taking a beating. 

I have a energy saving downlight right above the sub.  During those low vibration time, I can see the downlight vibrating up and down. 

During Chinese New Year, I hang some lanterns on the 6 downlights in my living room and when my friend came over, i show them what my sub can do.  During that time, four of the laterns drop off.

My friend who order the PC12+ with me together with the 7.1 SVS speakers just recently finish his new home and I help him setup his new system.  He also mention that the HT room ceiling is vibrating too much as we can both see with powder on the floor.
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If getting only one subdude should be around RM290. Shipping to East should be around RM40 to RM50.
Just a rough estimate.
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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Mar 26 2010, 09:24 PM)
Mine is about 3-4 ft crack and very visible.  I like bass and the problem is some movies you don't get much of it.  Other have some serious bass that really rather the whole house and you can really see the plaster ceiling taking a beating. 

I have a energy saving downlight right above the sub.  During those low vibration time, I can see the downlight vibrating up and down. 

During Chinese New Year, I hang some lanterns on the 6 downlights in my living room and when my friend came over, i show them what my sub can do.  During that time, four of the laterns drop off.

My friend who order the PC12+ with me together with the 7.1 SVS speakers just recently finish his new home and I help him setup his new system.  He also mention that the HT room ceiling is vibrating too much as we can both see with powder on the floor.
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I have 12 downlights with plaster ceilings in my listening area. No problem so far.

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For the PC12-NSD with a diameter of 16", which one would you guys recommend.
My sub is located in a corner and rattles my plaster ceiling located at the rear 1/2 of my hall.
Will the isolation platform reduce or eliminate this?
Thank you.
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QUOTE(klimal @ Mar 27 2010, 09:39 AM)
For the PC12-NSD with a diameter of 16", which one would you guys recommend.
My sub is located in a corner and rattles my plaster ceiling located at the rear 1/2 of my hall.
Will the isolation platform reduce or eliminate this?
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I used Subdude for my previous PC12-Plus. It only protrude a little.

I guess it doesn't help much on the rattling but it may reduce it. Am not sure as mine aint plaster ceiling.
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the subdude is not a remedy, it is meant to isolate yr subwoofer for "better" (debateable) bass production.

i have plaster ceiling at my tv area. there is a trapdoor that wud vibrate when certain sub frequencies are reached. i just take down the trapdoor, stick on some wool along all the contact points, replace it back to the ceiling, the vibration is eliminated.
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QUOTE(eye @ Mar 28 2010, 07:24 PM)
the subdude is not a remedy, it is meant to isolate yr subwoofer for "better" (debateable) bass production.

i have plaster ceiling at my tv area. there is a trapdoor that wud vibrate when certain sub frequencies are reached. i just take down the trapdoor, stick on some wool along all the contact points, replace it back to the ceiling, the vibration is eliminated.
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Any pic to show huh?


I dun think our typical bolehland house is designed to withstand low freq wave & with plaster ceiling installed making things even worse especially you have these monster cylinders or boxes sitting inside the house & pound the surrounding like no other biz. tongue.gif




BTW, SVS mentions that cylinder type is their traditional way of making a sub....is that true?








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QUOTE(mikapoh @ Mar 26 2010, 10:37 PM)
Htkaki, do you think a subdude beneath the sub can help it tighten up the bass a little more?? Are we able to audition that with & without?


Added on March 26, 2010, 10:40 pm
Wow, seems like your downlight is enjoying the low bass & is dancing to the tune  rclxms.gif
Any other svs owners who have more to share about the impact it cause to the surroundings.....I think it is pretty interesting to read.
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Forgot to mention that the downlight right above the PC12+ already burn out twice. Not sure if its due to too much vibration or not.
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Yes, SVS came out with cyclinder sub initially.

lightning69, only that particular downlight?
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Any pic to show huh?
I dun think our typical bolehland house is designed to withstand low freq wave & with plaster ceiling installed making things even worse especially you have these monster cylinders or boxes sitting inside the house & pound the surrounding like no other biz.  tongue.gif
BTW, SVS mentions that cylinder type is their traditional way of making a sub....is that true?
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sorry bro, kinda cumbersome for me to climb and take down the trap door for a camera shot.

those wools, u can buy at any of the hardware shops. they are precut in rectangular/square/circle that u often use for the feet of the chairs, tables. one side is sticky tape the other is felt or woollen like material. they are cheap, about rm3 per packet. these are good remedy for contact vibration as in the case of my plaster trapdoor in the ceiling.
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those with cracked plaster ceiling, are you running your sub hot & loud and by how much? just curious.
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QUOTE(ycs @ Mar 29 2010, 01:08 PM)
those with cracked plaster ceiling, are you running your sub hot & loud and by how much? just curious.
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Probably due to very bare acoustic treatment. Now, I am interested to do corner trap.
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I have 12 downlights with plaster ceilings in my listening area. No problem so far.
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Maybe you're not cranking up as high as lightning biggrin.gif
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How much spl? lol
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Maybe you're not cranking up as high as lightning  biggrin.gif
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Boss, any chance of us having an audition at your pad? Weekday also ok.

Btw, if you are free, pls come again. The AQ has improved.
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Mar 28 2010, 10:14 PM)
Yes, SVS came out with cyclinder sub initially.

lightning69, only that particular downlight?
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Yep, that particular downlight right above the sub. You can see it dance during the low freqeuncy part.


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Probably due to very bare acoustic treatment. Now, I am interested to do corner trap.
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I am not sure if acoustic treatment will help. What I do know is during those super low frequency time where you can fell the wave moving thru the room(what the sub suppose to do) the ceiling also vibrates.

Anyway, i have my sub volume at 12.

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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Mar 30 2010, 12:30 AM)
Yep, that particular downlight right above the sub.  You can see it dance during the low freqeuncy part.


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I am not sure if acoustic treatment will help.  What I do know is during those super low frequency time where you can fell the wave moving thru the room(what the sub suppose to do) the ceiling also vibrates. 

Anyway, i have my sub volume at 12.
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I have 2 sets of this in the HT room

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Everytime the PB13-Ultra flexes its muscle, it will vibrate sweat.gif For the record, my Ultra is being tuned at 74dB as I have yet to rectify some acoustic issue.

Hopefully get it done by this week.
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Mar 31 2010, 09:19 AM)
I have 2 sets of this in the HT room

user posted image

Everytime the PB13-Ultra flexes its muscle, it will vibrate  sweat.gif For the record, my Ultra is being tuned at 74dB as I have yet to rectify some acoustic issue.

Hopefully get it done by this week.
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I have one of these on top of the TV. The downlight on top of the woofer is those type where it fits into the plaster ceiling.
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I have moved all my equipments down to ground floor living room while waiting to re-construct my theater room...have the same experience as some of you guys - plaster ceiling cracked. Mine is cracked along the join to the wall, for a few feets long... sweat.gif Consider my setup is quite simple and basic, sub volume at 11, sub level is at -3 at receiver, and receiver volume normally at between -25 to -20. And mine is only PC12-NSD, belum ultra lagi. If I crank the receiver to -15...maybe projector also fall down when Iron Man walk out from the cave... laugh.gif
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A review by renowned Daniel Kumin of Sound & Vision on AS-EQ1 :

http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/tests-rev...oofer-equalizer
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Apr 2 2010, 10:44 PM)
A review by renowned Daniel Kumin of Sound & Vision on AS-EQ1 :

http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/tests-rev...oofer-equalizer
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Very poisonous article indeed...
Need to refrain own self from this laugh.gif
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htkaki, any good news on earlier arrival of your stock from Ohio? brows.gif


The Denon is impatiently counting the days of its good companion tongue.gif biggrin.gif









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No definite news as to date. Shall keep you updated smile.gif

Next month or June should be a busy month with the birth of all new SB series.

At the mean time, drawing up a plan for the upcoming KLIAV Show 2010. There's a media launch on 7th Apr at JW Marriott KL.
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Customer Review: By Ed Mullen, SVS PC12-Plus

Quote: "At reference levels, and if the source material calls for it - this sub effortlessly provides vision blurring, teeth rattling, couch moving, guts turn to Jell-O, pants waffling, stuff falls off the shelves upstairs, call the fire department - REAL DEAL ULTRA LOW INCREDIBLY POWERFUL BASS."


So exciting huh...... sweat.gif


I wonder PC-12NSD has the similar impact too? cool2.gif









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Vision blurring: At first I thought my projector rosak...then realized it's actually the screen which was vibrating.
Couch moving: Although not really move, it did vibrate
Pants Waffling: Since my sofa is vibrating, I didn't pay attention if my pants are waffling
Stuff falls off the shelves: Everything on shelves are placed stable, but it cracked my plaster ceiling.
Call the fire department: House next to mine is still vacant.

And I'm using PC12-NSD...and my listening volume is only -24 to -20. I'd say get one if you are low on budget. The Ultra if you have the money to spend. smile.gif
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klimal paid me a visit this afternoon for a self-poison. Let him auditioned the PB13-Ultra since he already has PC12-NSD. His HM said that the beast is gigantic with jaw-dropping LFE. He's very impressed with performance too.


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klimal paid me a visit this afternoon for a self-poison. Let him auditioned the PB13-Ultra since he already has PC12-NSD. His HM said that the beast is gigantic with jaw-dropping LFE. He's very impressed with performance too.
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Must have been showing him the terminator scene brows.gif
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QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Apr 4 2010, 07:46 PM)
Must have been showing him the terminator scene  brows.gif
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laugh.gif Yes.....

and also Feeling Good by Michael Buble. Let him listen hwo subtle can PB13-Ultra be for music biggrin.gif

Anyone know how to edit those test scenes and combines it into different tracks / chapters in a single BD. This will make demo easier.

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Thanks for the hospitality.
I was surprised by the sheer size of the PB Ultra13. It needs a dedicated HT room for it to shine methinks.
The bass was so well controlled and tactile. My PC12-NSD sounds anemic in comparison.
I was pleasantly surprised at how well it integrated with music.
I think the positioning plays a big part. Mine is corner loaded due to space constraints and I guess it overwhelms the music. Tweaking is in the works now.
I was thinking a another PC12-NSD for the other corner, but after listening to this monster, I am torn at maybe getting just one of this 13Ultra to replace the PC12. Any comments?

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QUOTE(klimal @ Apr 4 2010, 10:31 PM)
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Thanks for the hospitality.
I was surprised by the sheer size of the PB Ultra13. It  needs a dedicated HT room for it to shine methinks.
The bass was so well controlled and tactile. My PC12-NSD sounds anemic in comparison.
I was pleasantly surprised at how well it integrated with music.
I think the positioning plays a big part. Mine is corner loaded due to space constraints and I guess it overwhelms the music. Tweaking is in the works now.
I was thinking a another PC12-NSD for the other corner, but after listening to this monster, I am torn at maybe getting just one of this 13Ultra to replace the PC12. Any comments?
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Honestly, if u are into movies, there is no such thing as too much bass. The bigger the better. Better yet, get a pair. And get a SVS AS-EQ1 to equalize them!

For serious music, thats another thing altogether.
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2x PC12-NSD will still yield the same performance in sound quality. You will be getting abt 6dB more by placing another 12-NSD. The bass response would be better since it will be more balance. Your PC12-NSDs do not need to work as hard.

By adding second sub, the output will not double. Many ppl have the misconception. That's why I am reluctant to put another Ultra in there to have a more even response.

A PC12-Plus would easily outperfoms PC12-NSD in terms of sound quality. It goes lower, tighter bass note, more tactile and blends well too. As for PC13-Ultra, I guess that I do not have to convince you on its sheer performance as it is near identical to PB-Ultra.

My advice is to sell the PC12-NSD and get either PC12-PLus or PC13-Ultra. Getting 2 PC12-NSDs is a lot more expensive than a PC12-Plus and it is nearly the price of a PC13-Ultra. But, with NSD, the limitation is already there.

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Apr 2 2010, 10:44 PM)
A review by renowned Daniel Kumin of Sound & Vision on AS-EQ1 :

http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/tests-rev...oofer-equalizer
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wonder if i was lucky or unlucky coz the EQ1 was never properly setup & tried on my subby .... tongue.gif


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You may ask whether anfieldude is able to test it out for you or not since he has one now. I am quite sure that it will yield better result for your Submersive.
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any chance that an SVS demo be done up north? say... Penang island? budget is only up to NSD / SB model
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any chance that an SVS demo be done up north? say... Penang island? budget is only up to NSD / SB model
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No, there won't be any due to cost and logistic issues.

You can see all of the subs and loudspeakers in upcoming KLIAV Show smile.gif
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Apr 5 2010, 02:33 PM)
No, there won't be any due to cost and logistic issues.

You can see all of the subs and loudspeakers in upcoming KLIAV Show  smile.gif
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I thought there were a couple of NSD owners from Penang? Maybe they are kind enough to accomodate for an audition ? whistling.gif

By the way, when is the exact dates for KLIAV this year? smile.gif

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I thought there were a couple of NSD owners from Penang? Maybe they are kind enough to accomodate for an audition ? whistling.gif

By the way, when is the exact dates for KLIAV this year? smile.gif
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23-25 July 2010 at same venue, JW Marriott.
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The countdown to arrival of NSDs should be another 10 days from now. Each day counting....

Keeping my fingers crossed that htkaki can do some magic at least to our beloved katam.......... rclxms.gif


Please do so before the birth of the SB series in bolehland notworthy.gif


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QUOTE(mikapoh @ Apr 5 2010, 05:03 PM)
The countdown to arrival of NSDs should be another 10 days from now. Each day counting....

Keeping my fingers crossed that htkaki can do some magic at least to our beloved katam.......... rclxms.gif
Please do so before the birth of the SB series in bolehland  notworthy.gif


Added on April 5, 2010, 11:01 pm.
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Bro, sorry to break your heart.It ain't going to be in 10 days time. I am waiting for confirmation. If it eta within 2 weeks, I need abt a week to get in due to procedures at Custom. Never do any magic.

SB series will be end May wink.gif

On another note, cc payment facility is now available smile.gif

Abt KLIAV, expect to see 2 rooms with SVS subs. All on level 4.
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Need stuff coming! Congratulations taukeh! rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 6 2010, 09:44 AM)
WOW!!

Need stuff coming!  Congratulations taukeh! rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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Thanks a lot smile.gif

Still too small to pose any serious threat to the big players in the market.

Btw, coming soon; in-wall speakers, in-wall sub, bipole surround spkrs as well as in-ceiling speakers.
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Apr 6 2010, 08:36 AM)
Bro, sorry to break your heart.It ain't going to be in 10 days time. I am waiting for confirmation. If it eta within 2 weeks, I need abt a week to get in due to procedures at Custom. Never do any magic.

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BTW, has the stock taken-off at Ohio?


After custom clearance, the date should be around 25th or so. Hopefully can get on 27-April as it is very special day for me tongue.gif


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Thanks a lot  smile.gif

Still too small to pose any serious threat to the big players in the market.


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QUOTE(mikapoh @ Apr 6 2010, 06:49 PM)
sad.gif  cry.gif
BTW, has the stock taken-off at Ohio?
After custom clearance, the date should be around 25th or so. Hopefully can get on 27-April as it is very special day for me  tongue.gif


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Slowly but surely the biz is penetrating bolehland puny market until running out of stock. If its performance is solid, expect more orders here  biggrin.gif
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It had sailed out. Waiting for principal to reply on the eta port date. Normally, takes abt 5-8 working days to get it in.

I am hoping the SB10-NSD would be a 'killer' when it's being launched. Probably around RM2.8K range or lower.
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Apr 7 2010, 09:26 AM)
It had sailed out. Waiting for principal to reply on the eta port date. Normally, takes abt 5-8 working days to get it in.

I am hoping the SB10-NSD would be a 'killer' when it's being launched. Probably around RM2.8K range or lower.
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2.8K is a very good price range for those looking to start into the AV. Thats where most of the competition is.
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Yup, its true.
I myself are planning to get a subwoofer and it so happens that my budget is sub 3k icon_rolleyes.gif
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Yup, its true.
I myself are planning to get a subwoofer and it so happens that my budget is sub 3k  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Then faster place order with htkaki, put in deposit first to secure your unit later, or else will snap up like potato chips.

I also agreed that price range below 3k is the real competition. So many good sub manufacturers are targetting this segment of the market. If SVS is planning to tab this lower end segment, I am pretty sure it will pose serious threat to all its rivals.








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That's the price indication for SB10-NSD. Hopefully, it could go lower.

Anyway, there will be a pre-order for all new SB12-NSD and SB13-Plus for limited units only. More info in a fortnight.

On KLIAV, I found out that my immediate 'nieghbour' is Optoma thumbup.gif And the other end is Swedish Statement. I can create 'earthquake' w/o worries tongue.gif

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I wonder SB12-NSD price how... hmmm, SB10-NSD price really drooling...
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I wonder SB12-NSD price how... hmmm, SB10-NSD price really drooling...
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It would be roughly the price of PB/PC12-NSD
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Good price....if o9nly SB16 can be on that price sweat.gif
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Good price....if o9nly SB16 can be on that price sweat.gif
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