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TSJasonjinct
post Nov 10 2009, 11:25 AM, updated 15y ago

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What your recommended GPS Application for iPhone for Malaysia?
Please vote, and state your comments too!

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Price: USD79.99

Pros:
+ Most updated Malaysia map so far.
+ GPS Fix is good, relatively fast.
+ Good Reception
+ Lots of fine-turning, tweaking abilities
+ Custom POI
+ Fast Startup

Cons:
- The GUI is implemented very poorly (proprietary GUI, not iPhone-style)
- Not user friendly

Screenshot:
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Video Review:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoDPeI3xZAI

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Price: USD59.99

Pros:
+ User-Friendly and nice UI
+ Soon will have Car-kit
+ iPhone heat quite fast

Cons:
- Poor Reception
- Lack of map update
- No custom POI yet
- Slow GPS Fix

Screenshot:
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Video Review:
Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTmWA8-7DHg
Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Nz-HungCDE...0956&feature=iv

** Navigon has been removed since no vote so far **
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Papago M6 for iphone (MY/SG) is now available from App Store. There are two versions:

* Papago M6 SG/MY (Pro)
* Papago M6 SG/MY (Lite) - No Junction View & 3D buildings

This is a must GPS application for Malaysian. It utilize malfreemaps. A FREE maps & most complete local map maker.

Maps:

Head over to http://www.malfreemaps.com/

Find the download section. Look for latest Papago for android/iphone version.

Map update can be done via BOTH JB and non JB. the winrar/winzip method is for non JB

And for those have problem like error during installation,

Please,

1. Install first WITHOUT any modification (means original Papago maps)
2. Later you update the map using winrar.

As a precaution, do backup the original Papago maps so if anything goes horribly wrong, you can restore to original.


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Which GPS application you think will have potential to improve in Malaysia? Please vote.

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Piracy chat will earn you a warning/suspension so please do not ask/discuss about cracked/pirated apps.

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post Nov 10 2009, 11:43 AM

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So far, i've tested Sygic on a friend's iphone and found it quite good. as for TomTom, the description given was that the Malaysian map is abt 54% covered only. Haven't tested it yet. Price wise, Sygic is USD79.99 while TomTom is USD59.99.

i'm waiting for Google Maps Navigation before i decide which i want to install on iPhone.
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will it be lagging when trying to install in to the phone? i planing to get 1 as well but need to wait for the comment as well.. bcoz it is quiet expensive
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post Nov 10 2009, 09:35 PM

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I have Ndrive and my recommendation is not to use it. Since GPS is not cheap, get a better quality and pay more as 'poor man pay twice' maxim may be true.

Sometimes, I find that google maps may be clearer.
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post Nov 10 2009, 09:50 PM

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this all gps software cost so much? woot
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post Nov 11 2009, 12:05 AM

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from my experience using TomTom.... if you're using it on the iPhone 3GS..try not to use it for too long...the phone gets rather hot.

Anyway, i've only tried TomTom and I like it.
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post Nov 11 2009, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(poyol @ Nov 11 2009, 12:05 AM)
from my experience using TomTom.... if you're using it on the iPhone 3GS..try not to use it for too long...the phone gets rather hot.

Anyway, i've only tried TomTom and I like it.
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Me too.... I just installed TomTom last Sunday.

Tested it at Penang and Alor Setar....so far, the GPS locking signal pretty fast (compared to Google map).
Although, the map is not updated...even in Penang island, but I still very happy to own this! Hopefully TomTom will come out with latest update in near future.... icon_rolleyes.gif


Ya....forgot to mention iPhone heat up quite fast while using TomTom and battery drains out pretty fast too! So, you should get yourself a car kit with charger, or iPhone battery will flat out after you reach your destination sad.gif

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TSJasonjinct
post Nov 11 2009, 02:58 PM

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But I guess every GPS application will heat up iPhone isn't it? Or tomtom heat up faster..

ya, I live in penang too, so far haven't purchase any iphone GPS app yet, anyone try sygic? does Sygic heat up iPhone fast too?

So far I read about, sygic have really good update, custom POI, updated map, and fast to launch application, just not really good UI, and doesn't support iphone gesture.

tomtom seem good use of iphone gesture, the UI seem very friendly and nice too~ but not really updated map and bad review from ilounge, however, this could be fix via update.
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post Nov 11 2009, 05:13 PM

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i have 3 gps app Ndrive, Sygic and Tomtom... for map, all using the same map from Teleatlas. i vote for tomtom bcoz i can browse the map like google map smile.gif
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i had try tomtom
vote for UI
but the GPS fix is slow
anyone having this prob?
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post Nov 11 2009, 06:45 PM

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@ azim61 ,
i've been struggling to get a decent signal using tomtom ever since i've gotten myself the gps app !
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QUOTE(loowy @ Nov 11 2009, 06:45 PM)
@ azim61 ,
i've been struggling to get a decent signal using tomtom ever since i've gotten myself the gps app !
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i manage only to get GPS signal in a second
when the sky is clear
which mean there is no cloud or whatsoever
only the blue sky
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then is that tomtom is better compare to other. but the map is not update yet.. this is weakness
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post Nov 12 2009, 12:05 AM

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hmm.. so, how about Sygic?
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does tom tom have maps for asia country?

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post Nov 12 2009, 08:57 AM

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Most of the time I am getting Poor GPS Reception on Tomtom, I wonder if its related to window tinting blocking GPS signal?. If I use Garmin device then no problem.
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QUOTE(garyngkt @ Nov 12 2009, 08:57 AM)
Most of the time I am getting Poor GPS Reception on Tomtom, I wonder if its related to window tinting blocking GPS signal?. If I use Garmin device then no problem.
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i think it's bcoz garmin is dedicated for using GPS
iphone is not
the GPS chip i think is different
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Tried using tomtom on my 3gs in Malacca. Managed to get me to where I wanted to go after quite a few wrong turnings due to the occasionally bad and slow reception...

It's actually very sad to say this but the Garmin on my last e71 is just way better. It's fast, accurate and definitely more reliable... sad.gif

Btw, as some has experienced it before, the phone gets really hot after using the GPS for awhile and not to mentioned how fast it drains the battery... sweat.gif

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QUOTE(bliss85 @ Nov 13 2009, 12:47 AM)
Tried using tomtom on my 3gs in Malacca. Managed to get me to where I wanted to go after quite a few wrong turnings due to the occasionally bad and slow reception...

It's actually very sad to say this but the Garmin on my last e71 is just way better. It's fast, accurate and definitely more reliable... sad.gif

Btw, as some has experienced it before, the phone gets really hot after using the GPS for awhile and not to mentioned how fast it drains the battery... sweat.gif
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True, i had garmin in my previous 5730xm, its perfect..
wish garmin can be in iphone..
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Agree.. been using garmin mobile XT in s60 OS for quite a while d, garmin work like a charm.. especially the free map provide by the community of malsingmap in malaysia, very detail.
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Just wondering will garmin actually develop a version for the iPhone.
anyway,tried google maps yesterday.works fine but just not as convenient as a voice navigation software.
Hopefully the google maps navigation will b available with the next update. Looks good from the online articles.
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post Nov 15 2009, 12:16 PM

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The google map doesnt come with voice rite?
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post Nov 15 2009, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(Rikef @ Nov 15 2009, 12:16 PM)
The google map doesnt come with voice rite?
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QUOTE(loowy @ Nov 15 2009, 12:40 PM)
No, it doesn't
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let's just hope apple finally comes to terms with google and offer us the maps navigation soon.
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anyone tried sygic at cheras area? is there any signal in cheras? i've tried to launch sygic but it keeps staying at waiting for valid signal state.
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can i ask the gps application need use internet ?
and its only for iphone 3gs?
how about iphone 3G?
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QUOTE(simplykah @ Nov 17 2009, 10:44 AM)
anyone tried sygic at cheras area? is there any signal in cheras? i've tried to launch sygic but it keeps staying at waiting for valid signal state.
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well currently sygic is updating I think...because a lot people is having the problem to connect..even me too..but the next day it's working pretty fine and good...
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QUOTE(yuvanesh @ Nov 18 2009, 12:07 AM)
well currently sygic is updating I think...because a lot people is having the problem to connect..even me too..but the next day it's working pretty fine and good...
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used sygic today in singapore and jb area, working perfectly fine. Locks very fast.
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I couldn't get any GPS signal for Tom Tom. Current location in Penang. sad.gif
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Hi, all .. I noticed some people saying that they are taking a long time to lock on to their position.. in my case, I notice this.. I am on a JB'd phone and when i turn off EDGE, it seems to take longer to lock on to my position.. i think this could be due to AGPS being turned off as well..

I'm not sure if this is because of that.. for those of you not getting a signal at all, did you guys turn off Location services?
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QUOTE(tnsai @ Nov 20 2009, 05:50 PM)
Hi, all .. I noticed some people saying that they are taking a long time to lock on to their position.. in my case, I notice this.. I am on a JB'd phone and when i turn off EDGE, it seems to take longer to lock on to my position.. i think this could be due to AGPS being turned off as well..

I'm not sure if this is because of that.. for those of you not getting a signal at all, did you guys turn off Location services?
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For me, i turned my location services ON. but it still wont lock no matter how long i wait outside clear skies. Is it true that we must turn on our edge to get a signal?
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Just install GPS call "IGo My way", have 5 country in it- M'sia, P'pines, indonesia, HK and S'pore. But sadly signal not strong, hard to detect satellite and once detect satellite got disconnected!!! Any other GPS software you guyz can recommend?
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if Gps doesnt detect satellite den will it be able to connect thr Edge??? if it does, will it charge us????
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no more free offline maps version huh
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Garmin got for iPhone but not GMXT like WM/nokia/sony phone... UI very ugly as the software uses IMG raw file.. i think they call it ImgOsm ... its custom made app, not official from Garmin

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I am an iPod Touch 2G user which doesn't have built-in GPS chip. I purchased iGPS360 module from OrangeGadgets as well as TomTom's Malaysia/Singapore maps from iTunes.

Thus far, I'm satisfied with the external GPS performance since it is a dedicated (external) chip. It takes only seconds to get a location lock-in. Inside my office, signal is weak or doesn't exist (as expected). Under partial roof area, signals are detected which is good when driving inside the car cabin.
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i've been trying to use tomtom...but it always shows weak gps signal although im outside a field...
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Just now I've installed Sygic for Malaysia, Singapore, Thailand (190MB) and have to say it is equal, if not better, than TomTom.

Will continue to play around between Sygic and TomTom.

Interesting feature on Sygic found thus far:
- it has an option to enter longitude and latitude numbers (couldn't find this in TomTom), which is good since some smaller roads within my housing area is not captured in the map

Interesting feature on TomTom found thus far:
- it allows route simulation in real-time, meaning after you have set your origin and destination but haven't departed yet, you can run a second-by-second simulation of the proposed route complete with all relevant POIs & intersections that you will see throughout the journey, which is pretty nice if you want to get used to the route before starting the actual journey
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I have all 3 but to me Tom Tom 1.2 is pretty good - Ndrive is the worse so far
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QUOTE(natzakaria @ Dec 13 2009, 10:38 PM)
I have all 3 but to me Tom Tom 1.2 is pretty good - Ndrive is the worse so far
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wow, i wish that i could succumb myself to purchase those three expensive apps. but i can never do that sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif

after contemplating and doing adequate researches, i have decided to purchase the australian tomtom instead.
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QUOTE(jasonlim1 @ Dec 13 2009, 05:48 PM)
i've been trying to use tomtom...but it always shows weak gps signal although im outside a field...
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I face the same weak gps signal as you. Not sure what the cause is?


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i had the same experience. I tried following method and it will get the GPS signal pretty fast.

On your EDGE and 3G, tap to open TomTom and you will get the GPS signal.

Once done, disabled EDGE and 3G.
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thx for the tip. i'll try it later on
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I need more info on the updated Sygic. The keyboard issue have been replaced to more touchh friendly and updated map as well. Anyone have bought updated or buy the latest one? Comment please?

At thorn of buying between TomTom and Sygic as both with the same price.
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anyone try this application in sabah ?

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guys i hv a bluetooth GPS device.can i connect with iphone?
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TOMTOM Malaysia & Singapore Update : Ver 1.2

Update :-
1.Map ver 4.0
2.Added Help me ! emergency Menu.
3.New POI added

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I bought Ndrive and I think it is pretty useless as it fails at important intersections.

Now I am afraid to throw in the money for another GPS apps as I am afraid their performance will be mediocre.

Seen a dedicated GPS at work and I must say that Ndrive pales terribly in comparison.
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Correct me if I am wrong; iPhone 3GS and 3G only comes with Assisted GPS which means it utilises GPRS, Edge or 3G connection to detect the signals from the transmission towers and lock your position based on the signals they received from the tower. It does not directly utilises the satellites. It only gives an estimation on your position based on the positions of the towers. Thus, it is faster to lock and are able to use it indoor. Conclusion, fast locking, can use indoor but not accurate.

Unlike the Standalone GPS, it fully utilises the positions of the satellites directly to lock your position. Thus it will take a longer time to locked. It also not able to function indoor. Conclusion, slow locking, cannot use indoor but accurate.

Some models like HTC Touch Pro uses both. Thus, when the Standalone GPS cannot lock your position, it will utilise the A-GPS smile.gif


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guys i hv a bluetooth GPS device.can i connect with iphone?
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I am also looking at an external Standalone GPS device particularly bluetooth ones because iPhone only comes with A-GPS. Where did you get yours? Is it a Standalone GPS or A-GPS? biggrin.gif


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anyone try this application in sabah ?
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I never tried any of these; but I have tried Garmin in Sabah and found that its good. I have also tried the Google Maps and found that Garmin is still better as the map is more complete and no need GPRS, Edge or 3G connections to open the map.

However, iphone is using only A-GPS and this will make all these maps not so accurate especially in Sabah where the telecommunication towers are weaker. blush.gif


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QUOTE(bliss85 @ Nov 14 2009, 03:59 PM)
Just wondering will garmin actually develop a version for the iPhone.
anyway,tried google maps yesterday.works fine but just not as convenient as a voice navigation software.
Hopefully the google maps navigation will b available with the next update. Looks good from the online articles.
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Contacted Garmin and according to them, they currently have no plan to develop the iPhone version. cry.gif

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have anybody used tom tom msia app?
the price $59.90
is it worth it?
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tomtom is nice, but I think Sygic really listen to their customer, and alway have updates, recently update to whole new application that have gesture feature, after complain from customer because of lack gesture
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QUOTE(DavidL @ Dec 18 2009, 10:37 PM)
Correct me if I am wrong; iPhone 3GS and 3G only comes with Assisted GPS which means it utilises GPRS, Edge or 3G connection to detect the signals from the transmission towers and lock your position based on the signals they received from the tower. It does not directly utilises the satellites. It only gives an estimation on your  position based on the positions of the towers. Thus, it is faster to lock and are able to use it indoor. Conclusion, fast locking, can use indoor but not accurate.
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i believe iPhone3G and iPhone3GS both got A-GPS chip utilising satellite, alongside cellular and wifi signal. the assisted part is for faster lock when location-aware app is launched, before the satellites can give the exact location. so nope, iPhone 3G and 3GS can also get its location via GPS satellite. the one that doesn't have that feature is the original iPhone (can only determine its location via cellular and wifi signals)

btw, some GPS makers such as TomTom also already made their own GPS cradle to be used with iPhone 3G & iPhone 3GS, also can be used with iPod Touch. it features GPS chip built into the cradle that can improve the GPS signal receiving.




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guys .. i faced a problem .. my iphone 3G currently is 3.12 and i install tomtom gps software d .. but my phone din show up the icon... izit 3.12os din support tomtom ??
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Please reboot your iPhone and re-sync the application.
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Contacted Garmin and according to them, they currently have no plan to develop the iPhone version. cry.gif
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what a waste... Garmin for winmo works great..i've been using it on my X1 for trips to Melaka, Ipoh and Cameron Highlands recently.. works great with free maps from malfreemaps.. even in town roads and directions are clear... if only Garmin is available for iphone it'll be perfect.. great UI and OS with good gps navi software...
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is location service free of charge?


Added on January 4, 2010, 11:05 pmis location service free of charge?


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Reporting in.

Papago for Taiwan has been sighted.

Papago for iPhone

Released 29th Dec 09.

The taiwanese version even comes with 3D landmark and lane assist as well. Now, this is more like dedicated standalone GPS.

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No clue to date if they will ever release any Malaysian version. If yes, we might have a chance to use local mapper's version of Papago map. Considering that their standalone GPS already integrated with MFM maps it will be great if the same can be bundle with the apps. Tomtom and sygic won't stand a chance in terms of POI.
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QUOTE(GaryPs3 @ Jan 4 2010, 11:05 PM)
is location service free of charge?


Added on January 4, 2010, 11:05 pmis location service free of charge?
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Yup, you only hv to buy the app. Thumbs up for TomTom here~
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i would say tat tom tom,sygic,ndrive and igoway gps could not really make my day in penang,...seems like penang maps is outdated there..i cant even find my own house street inside...but for garmin...it has my house street lol...

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QUOTE(intothefantasy @ Jan 6 2010, 01:18 PM)
i would say tat tom tom,sygic,ndrive and igoway gps could not really make my day in penang,...seems like penang maps is outdated there..i cant even find my own house street inside...but for garmin...it has my house street lol...
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I believe it's true that a great GPS nav apps should be accompanied by detailed and complete waypoints and road networks. That being said, garmin obviously stand out here probably not because it is the best nav out there but due to the fact it has extensive map coverage courtesy of MSM officially and even MFM unofficially.

But the UI, auto-reroute duration, etc does play some role as well in determining which is the best. Consider that if Tomtom for example having an equally map database with garmin, then it might be spoiled for choice
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yea is not tat tom tom and sygic etc are not good..to me they are but too bad they are not using mfm like garmin
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Well, i think my post deserve a new thread...anyway, have a look here : http://www.malfreemaps.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=6416

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I've tried sygic and tomtom. personally i think they are complicated to operate. google map works best for me biggrin.gif
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How is tomtom complicated? if anything, tomtom is the most user friendly gps ive used so far. press navigate to, choose where you want to go, and voila!
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Hey can somebody tell me if all this GPS apps for iphone using 3g connection or any data connection?

is there one tht does not use any data connection to track ?
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Papago just launched the Papago Taiwan M6.. which can use MFM map ..!! its only USD9.90 from itunes.
Damn nice drool.gif drool.gif and sure better than iGO, TomTom, Sygic.. MFM is the best !! thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

http://www.malfreemaps.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=6389

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I checked it out and its the Chinese version, if not mistaken.
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Papago just launched the Papago Taiwan M6.. which can use MFM map ..!! its only USD9.90 from itunes.
Damn nice  drool.gif  drool.gif  and sure better than iGO, TomTom, Sygic.. MFM is the best !! thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif

http://www.malfreemaps.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=6389
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hey, i downloaded papago and replaced the files with malaysia map! However, im not able to search for addresses as it always show no result !! Are you experiencing this prob ?
and, it takes quite some time to locate my position . !!!

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hey, i downloaded papago and replaced the files with malaysia map! However, im not able to search for addresses as it always show no result !! Are you experiencing this prob ?
and, it takes quite some time to locate my position . !!!
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Interesting. Which map do you use? MFM? I don't think there is any Malaysia map for iphone version?
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Interesting. Which map do you use? MFM? I don't think there is any Malaysia map for iphone version?
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yup .. MFM which using Papago Taiwan M6 app!! But, Its still contain alot of bug and not stable .. and not recommend to buy it now!!..
And, I think it will work well later ... hmm.gif
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Interesting. Which map do you use? MFM? I don't think there is any Malaysia map for iphone version?
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Hey there, im replying from another acc..
i used the papago android X5 malaysia map to replace the original Taiwanese map..
the only prob is tat the searches will not show any result.. hopefully bugs will be fixed..

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so from what i see there isnt a GPS software like GPS which depends solely on the map and the GPS chip ? im lookin for one tht doesnt use data connection when its on
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My iphone tends to have minimal signal and slow response on most of the gps software i tried ! Isit just me or wat ?
Gosh !!
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QUOTE(lwk523 @ Jan 11 2010, 06:41 PM)
yup .. MFM which using Papago Taiwan M6 app!! But, Its still contain alot of bug and not stable .. and not recommend to buy it now!!..
And, I think it will work well later ... hmm.gif
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I presume you JBed the phone to replace the map file? Guess I have to wait for the official Malaysian version. If any though.

Mailed the company some time ago about any possibility of Malaysian version yet unanswered.


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My iphone tends to have minimal signal and slow response on most of the gps software i tried ! Isit just me or wat ?
Gosh !!
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This is something that I don't have any conclusion as yet. Some says iphone do have GPS and even come up with image of GPS/A-GPS chipset. some says only A-GPS.

What I do suspect, Google maps in iPhone uses AGPS/tower triangulation only, because it's very not accurate. Plus, Gmaps in iPhone doesn't have the "Use GPS" function like in other phone with confirmed GPS.

While some said that iPhone has GPS receiver, they believe that the receiver is too weak compared to other type of GPS phone. This might be supported by the fact that TomTom provide GPS receiver in their kit as well

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So, can I conclude that to those who wish to buy iPhone thinking that it can also function as a GPS turn to turn guiding device, just hold back first? As I saw many of my friend who using HTC are very happy with the GPS function. Me myself is an iPhone user, and feel very frust and disapointed as this GPS function does not really perform...
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So, can I conclude that to those who wish to buy iPhone thinking that it can also function as a GPS turn to turn guiding device, just hold back first? As I saw many of my friend who using HTC are very happy with the GPS function. Me myself is an iPhone user, and feel very frust and disapointed as this GPS function does not really perform...
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If you ask me, you have to confirm with those who is using Tomtom or Sygic. I'm not in the position to give that answer as I'm still monitoring which navigator is the best and the most stable.

I'm looking forward to the Papago..considering that malaysian mappers has already compiled maps in Papago format. And yes as an omnian, the garmin in omnia is more than satisfying.

I just don't want the iphone goes bare like that without any proper navigation apps, hence lurking here for the best navigator
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for me Tomtom has a very poor map update..very2 poor for me
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I AM UNHAPPY VERY UNHAPPY with the performance of the bloody tom tom navigations =.=

Was driving towards KL Sentral and somehow i could appear on a road beside me which is 50 - 100 ft away on the map? response time = hopeless . Garmin GPS on Nokia S60v3 was a lot better..
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I wont be suprised that more ppl will be frustrated with TomTom..Even me myself cant stand the ineffectiveness of this software as it always goes out of bound and takes ages to reroute ! and i tried the navigation from 1U to Ampang, if i really depended on tomtom to lead the way, i think i'll forever stucked on the road as it kept showing that i was out of bound although i was on the path it showed ! not to mention how many times it rerouted eventhough i was on the correct path !

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I'm having a problem with that GPS. When i'm in my house. It cant detect the proper location that i having. Is that all the same?
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Yes it is. GPS can't detect in a building sometimes. But somehow my room has the "weird zone" where i can get 3G and GPS connection but other parts of my room i can't sleep.gif

Just stand outside ur place sure can one
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papago! malaysia released , worth buying the pro version ? anyone ?
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papago! malaysia released , worth buying the pro version ? anyone ?
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whoa thanx..been waiting for this! rclxms.gif

Just realised.

It's already using MfM..expect absolutely updated POI! and even updateable weekly! This will trump the other two contenders easily.

That being said, we'll see how the apps perform, and how friendly is the UI

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QUOTE(mmmbop @ Jan 21 2010, 12:15 PM)
whoa thanx..been waiting for this! rclxms.gif

Just realised.

It's already using MfM..expect absolutely updated POI! and even updateable weekly! This will trump the other two contenders easily.

That being said, we'll see how the apps perform, and how friendly is the UI
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Definitely will be the most updated map of all other GPS app in Malaysia, anyone tried to use it already? UI and map drawing seem not pretty as compare to tomtom(especially the font), but I prefer more updated map than this, AND VERY CHEAP! (compare to tomtom and sygic), can anyone post up the review?

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hey guys,

official papago for MY/SG is out for sale now at USD29.99.

http://www.malfreemaps.com/viewtopic.php?f...&p=93858#p93858
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can we buy taiwan version 9.99 and then update using MfM? Instead of buying my version which is 29.99

And does the taiwan version have english language?

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I saw there is another navigator which is priced USD 139.99... How good is that? Please feedback at popogo as it seems to be a bargain and is using mfm...
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I saw there is another navigator which is priced USD 139.99... How good is that? Please feedback at popogo as it seems to be a bargain and is using mfm...
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QUOTE(Jasonjinct @ Jan 22 2010, 10:39 AM)
Definitely will be the most updated map of all other GPS app in Malaysia, anyone tried to use it already? UI and map drawing seem not pretty as compare to tomtom(especially the font), but I prefer more updated map than this, AND VERY CHEAP! (compare to tomtom and sygic), can anyone post up the review?
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i believe it'll have the most updated map weekly only if only iphone is JBed..then you can update by yourself. cause any map update in itunes must obviously get the apple permission.so the non JBed one will have map update only when maction update the apps version.

BTW, I'll love papago more than others not only due to localised map, but due to JV function which is veryyy crucial


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can we buy taiwan version 9.99 and then update using MfM? Instead of buying my version which is 29.99

And does the taiwan version have english language?
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someone else had done this and apparently, mfm can be used except, the language is not replaceable

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So if we are not to jail break the phone and is to buy the current version of PAPAGO in ITUNES.... how long will the mancf update the map?

And can I ask if the current MAP is the latest as of MFM???
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QUOTE(abubin @ Jan 22 2010, 12:52 PM)
can we buy taiwan version 9.99 and then update using MfM? Instead of buying my version which is 29.99

And does the taiwan version have english language?
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yup... but if u buy the taiwan version and change to MFM, u only got the junction view without 3D building landmark...it's jz the time matter hmm.gif

the taiwan version only comes with mandarin interface but there is english voice navigation that u can choose.
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How to update the tomtom map byself or through itunes?
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I think that wats important in a gps map is the locale map completeness and in this case, papago give me an edge interms of malfreemaps. So, i think i'll choose papago pro compared to tomtom
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Can I know if it has the latest mfm map as of the current purchase? Seems a good bargain to get it....
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QUOTE(TheUrbNorm @ Jan 22 2010, 10:45 PM)
Can I know if it has the latest mfm map as of the current purchase? Seems a good bargain to get it....
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Iinm, they the mfm version should be the latest one. Just waiting for skalominia to reply my email and after that.... My iphone will be 'complete' finally
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yea..MFM+junction view with iphone is almost perfect in the iphone navigator in malaysia use ,but somehow the Papago is like almost completely taken from the X5 android version and it's not so iphone-ish interface, which make it like hmmmm
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I just saw one screen shot from AppStore... anyone have more screen shots to share?
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I bought it yesterday, it came with jun09 MFM map, My iphone is JB so i upgraded dec30 MFM Map but the latest MFM Jan01 map is not working, no idea what was wrong, generally it work ok but still not as good as in Windows mobile version and the interface is the worst compared to other GPS software like TOMTOM/iGO.......but MFM with JV is the best.

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QUOTE(lester @ Jan 23 2010, 01:33 AM)
I bought it yesterday, it came with jun09 MFM map, My iphone is JB so i upgraded dec30 MFM Map but the latest MFM Jan01 map is not working, no idea what was wrong, generally it work ok but still not as good as in Windows mobile version and the interface is the worst compared to other GPS software like TOMTOM/iGO.......but MFM with JV is the best.
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I agree... In terms of interface...nothing beats tomtom but as for local maps papago is the best... If only mfm can be downloaded to tomtom, it will be the best for iphone.
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QUOTE(lester @ Jan 23 2010, 01:33 AM)
I bought it yesterday, it came with jun09 MFM map, My iphone is JB so i upgraded dec30 MFM Map but the latest MFM Jan01 map is not working, no idea what was wrong, generally it work ok but still not as good as in Windows mobile version and the interface is the worst compared to other GPS software like TOMTOM/iGO.......but MFM with JV is the best.
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So Jun'09 MFM Map is good enough right, I supposed????

Hope they will work on the interface next then.... hmm.gif hmm.gif hmm.gif
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QUOTE(TheUrbNorm @ Jan 23 2010, 08:43 AM)
So Jun'09 MFM Map is good enough right, I supposed????

Hope they will work on the interface next then....  hmm.gif  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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Jun'09 still ok la, but normally for map we will always want the lastest 1, heheee.
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QUOTE(TheUrbNorm @ Jan 23 2010, 08:43 AM)
So Jun'09 MFM Map is good enough right, I supposed????

Hope they will work on the interface next then....  hmm.gif  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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Yup june 09 mfm map is 100 times more accurate than tomtom
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How is the GPS fix? does it work charm as tomtom?

Papago! Vs Tomtom

Papago Pros:
MOST UPDATED MAP IN MALAYSIA! (using mfm BEST! rclxms.gif )
Junction View!

Tomtom Pros:
Nice map drawing and interface..

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QUOTE(Jasonjinct @ Jan 23 2010, 02:59 PM)
How is the GPS fix? does it work charm as tomtom?

Papago! Vs Tomtom

Papago Pros:
MOST UPDATED MAP IN MALAYSIA! (using mfm BEST!  rclxms.gif )
Junction View!

Tomtom Pros:
Nice map drawing and interface..
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The gps fix for papago is instant!!! However the interface is not to be proud of but still...its manageable... Again, if u want a gps software for iphone with the most updated map in malaysia, then papago is ur best choice. Come to think of it, u buy it for sure because of the map rite?...

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papago ez 2 get signal?
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hey u guys mean the 29.99 M6 pro singapore + malaysia (PRO) ? izit good?
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Just bought PAPAGO and tried in Klang Valley... works wonder..instant rerouting

Only disadvantage, it seems to bring you to the most traffic route even though i choose shortest route... POI is at least updated and able to search most of the place...

Hope they can slot in latest map and improve interface...

Now wanted to get a car kit... the battery seems to be draining very fast...
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GPS is useless if it was without the latest map..... hence PAPAGO is the best gps available for iphone yet....

for those who wan to update their map without JBing their devices.... you can unzip the ipa and update the map with the latest available in MFM sites. then zip it back and install...
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QUOTE(TheUrbNorm @ Jan 23 2010, 05:35 PM)
Just bought PAPAGO and tried in Klang Valley... works wonder..instant rerouting

Only disadvantage, it seems to bring you to the most traffic route even though i choose shortest route... POI is at least updated and able to search most of the place...

Hope they can slot in latest map and improve interface...

Now wanted to get a car kit... the battery seems to be draining very fast...
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Hi, where to buy the car kit? any idea how much? if follow the papago website's link, the car kit (holder + car charger) is just abour RM70 in taiwan... so cheap...

wonder how much is it in Malaysia...

I bought Papago today too, tried it in Ipoh, back to KL now, so far no regret rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

gonna try it in KL area tomorrow.


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QUOTE(aeronyc @ Jan 24 2010, 01:21 AM)
Hi, where to buy the car kit? any idea how much? if follow the papago website's link, the car kit (holder + car charger) is just abour RM70 in taiwan... so cheap...

wonder how much is it in Malaysia...

I bought Papago today too, tried it in Ipoh, back to KL now, so far no regret  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif

gonna try it in KL area tomorrow.
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wah ur iphone really hot right?
izzit ok to the iphone as it will become very hot when use GPS too long
wanna buy PAPAGO! too but want to see oters use first
does it lag when navigate?
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QUOTE(aeronyc @ Jan 24 2010, 01:21 AM)
Hi, where to buy the car kit? any idea how much? if follow the papago website's link, the car kit (holder + car charger) is just abour RM70 in taiwan... so cheap...

wonder how much is it in Malaysia...

I bought Papago today too, tried it in Ipoh, back to KL now, so far no regret  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif

gonna try it in KL area tomorrow.
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I am finding a decent car kit also... anyone know here know where to find for a good iphone car kit....



QUOTE(azim61 @ Jan 24 2010, 10:22 AM)
wah ur iphone really hot right?
izzit ok to the iphone as it will become very hot when use GPS too long
wanna buy PAPAGO! too but want to see oters use first
does it lag when navigate?
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Indeed it generate some unwanted heats, but it goes the same when iphone is used for some heavy gaming activity for me, so i believe it is still OK I think hmm.gif hmm.gif .... Put it in between a/c lor in the car.. then it will not be hot lor biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(TheUrbNorm @ Jan 24 2010, 05:43 PM)
I am finding a decent car kit also... anyone know here know where to find for a good iphone car kit....
Indeed it generate some unwanted heats, but it goes the same when iphone is used for some heavy gaming activity for me, so i believe it is still OK I think  hmm.gif  hmm.gif .... Put it in between a/c lor in the car.. then it will not be hot lor  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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oh ok thx
where you guys buy a decent in car charger for iphone 3gs?
scared my iphone will spoilt
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hi guys...just want to know...those who are using sygic..are your application working well..??? well i am countering a problem where i cant get connected to the satelite signal...i have checked with a friend..he also have problem connecting...

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I vote other, cause there is no option for me to vote "NONE".

NONE of the GPS apps for iPhone is really useful in Malaysia. You rather go get a 2" Garmin GPS which cost less than RM 400
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papago lite on sale for $9.99!!

If I buy this, can upgrade to Pro version later?

Also, how to update the map once installed?
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TOMTOM is not a good GPS navigation system to me. The maps are outdated.
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So till now any solid rigid review on Papago! Singapore and Malaysia? I am considering buying it right before I go back to Malaysia for the CNY celebration.
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What's the difference between M6 SG/MAL pro and lite version?

Looks like a bargain now at USD 9.99 for the lite version..
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QUOTE(dnwt @ Jan 27 2010, 10:20 AM)
What's the difference between M6 SG/MAL pro and lite version?

Looks like a bargain now at USD 9.99 for the lite version..
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only in pro:
the 3D building
junction view

rest all is the same
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only in pro:
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junction view

rest all is the same
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Papago is the best GPS app for iPhone now, simply becoz it supports MFM. Tomtom is ok but map is outdated. Didn't try the rest but i'd say it's safe to go for papago biggrin.gif

I like the junction view, very useful.
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Whats MFM?
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i believe its MalFreeMaps

im trying to find reviews for this papago..but nt much luck la
since they r using mfm, it is the most updated map u can find compared to sygic or tomtom..
but the main prob lies in the gui..
looks nt iphone os standard...
what say..shud i just go for it? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(harmeet15 @ Jan 27 2010, 05:18 PM)
i believe its MalFreeMaps

im trying to find reviews for this papago..but nt much luck la
since they r using mfm, it is the most updated map u can find compared to sygic or tomtom..
but the main prob lies in the gui..
looks nt iphone os standard...
what say..shud i just go for it? biggrin.gif
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if u buy pls do a review for us
may be with a video haha i'm think im asking too much
i heard papago crash when rerouting?
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For papago, can it work offline? means dont have to connect to the internet when using it...

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QUOTE(zxc999 @ Jan 27 2010, 09:31 PM)
For papago, can it work offline? means dont have to connect to the internet when using it...
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I just bought the PRO version... menu a bit confusing (first time GPS user). Anyone know where I can download the user manual? Checked the Maction websites... cannot find it.
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Just bought Papago Pro My/Sg a few days ago. Having used Sygic before, here's my 2cents :

1. Default map is Malfreemap dated 26/06/2009. I saw few junctions at my home are missing, so I updated the map to Malfreemap dated 30/12/2009.

2. Routing is excellent, as u can expect from a comprehensive map.

3. App is stable (so far). No crash when re-routing. Re-routing is slower than Sygic.

4. Junction view is excellent and beautiful.

5. POI search is fast, and it's a lot better than Sygic. Just key-in the POI name. Auto-complete is a welcomed feature.

6. Functionality-wise, Sygic is clear winner. Papago feels like Google Map + POI. Very basic. What I want to see in the next release would be :

a. Navigate to coordinate (key-in latitude and longitude)
b. Route summary map, which shows the overall route, distance, and estimated time
c. If GPS is offline, user can select any point on the map as starting point. This is useful for route planning

I believe a) and b) is available in Papago stand-alone GPS, I hope they will bring more features from their stand-alone GPS to Iphone app.
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I installed Papago yesterday it's look great! First time GPS user and amazed....quality is good as the one i used the GPS in USA previously....

But bad things happen today - when i start the application, after a while, the application will jump out back to iphone GUI!! mad.gif So, i reinstalled it from my itune and so far looks OK.....

but question on papago: why the Papago POI seach input character is only limited to 23 alphanumeric characters ah? Is all GPS software POI seach is like that? Anyone can advise? hmm.gif

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Another question i have is our iphone 3gs is A-GPS right?or GPS? If A-GPS, does it means it will use maxis 3G data to access the telco tower to detect our location?
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me too, just bought and installed, very good indeed, like the petrol station icons so unique. does it incur data charges coz when I on airplane mode, gps not working.
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QUOTE(ryan_giggs @ Jan 28 2010, 03:37 PM)
I installed Papago yesterday it's look great! First time GPS user and amazed....quality is good as the one i used the GPS in USA previously....

But bad things happen today - when i start the application, after a while, the application will jump out back to iphone GUI!! mad.gif  So, i reinstalled it from my itune and so far looks OK.....

but question on papago: why the Papago POI seach input character is only limited to 23 alphanumeric characters ah? Is all GPS software POI seach is like that? Anyone can advise? hmm.gif

hmm.gif
Another question i have is our iphone 3gs is A-GPS right?or GPS? If A-GPS, does it means it will use maxis 3G data to access the telco tower to detect our location?
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QUOTE(Acethriller @ Jan 28 2010, 05:39 PM)
me too, just bought and installed, very good indeed, like the petrol station icons so unique. does it incur data charges coz when I on airplane mode, gps not working.
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if u r using iphone's native maps app to navigate, then yes, data charges apply..
but if u r using these new gps apps like papago/sygic/tomtom etc, then u r nt using data
u can turn on airplane mode n on location services manually n use da gps app

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QUOTE(taqu @ Jan 28 2010, 01:31 PM)
Just bought Papago Pro My/Sg a few days ago. Having used Sygic before, here's my 2cents :

1. Default map is Malfreemap dated 26/06/2009. I saw few junctions at my home are missing, so I updated the map to Malfreemap dated 30/12/2009.

2. Routing is excellent, as u can expect from a comprehensive map.

3. App is stable (so far). No crash when re-routing. Re-routing is slower than Sygic.

4. Junction view is excellent and beautiful.

5. POI search is fast, and it's a lot better than Sygic. Just key-in the POI name. Auto-complete is a welcomed feature.

6. Functionality-wise, Sygic is clear winner. Papago feels like Google Map + POI. Very basic. What I want to see in the next release would be :

a. Navigate to coordinate (key-in latitude and longitude)
b. Route summary map, which shows the overall route, distance, and estimated time
c. If GPS is offline, user can select any point on the map as starting point. This is useful for route planning

I believe a) and b) is available in Papago stand-alone GPS, I hope they will bring more features from their stand-alone GPS to Iphone app.
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Yes, a, b and c are definitely a MUST for the next upgrade. Also a (d)...

d. Save preferred/actual route into favourites.

Let's hope Maction will put these in for the next map release... and hope it is soon... cos the current map is dated 26 June 2009.

Can someone please feedback to them directly? How to do that?

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QUOTE(cosmicmeadow @ Jan 28 2010, 09:23 PM)
Yes, a, b and c are definitely a MUST for the next upgrade. Also a (d)...

d. Save preferred/actual route into favourites.

Let's hope Maction will put these in for the next map release... and hope it is soon... cos the current map is dated 26 June 2009.

Can someone please feedback to them directly? How to do that?
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Hi,

I located in Penang area and i don't know why my Papago Pro didn't come out the junction view when i near the highway junction area.... Anybody know how to turn on the junction view feature or it's automatically turn ON? hmm.gif
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just my views of papago (do note i'm a new GPS user ya... )

pro
1. like the junction view, helps a lot, definitely worth the money
2. most updated map for iphone so far
3. voice command that can tell you 'turn left at the third junction', etc

cons
1. feel like 'delay' for a few seconds, the phone show my location about 3 sec later...
2. can't link to contacts like google map do, ie save the location and tie to a contact in the phone
3. sometimes ask me to U-turn at junction that cannot u-turn - physically cannot...
4. junction at certain new highway quite confusing, believe is because map not updated (although these highway are build prior to jun 09) - hope the updated version will fix this

overall, quite happy with it.

hope it helps


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QUOTE(cosmicmeadow @ Jan 28 2010, 09:23 PM)
Yes, a, b and c are definitely a MUST for the next upgrade. Also a (d)...

d. Save preferred/actual route into favourites.

Let's hope Maction will put these in for the next map release... and hope it is soon... cos the current map is dated 26 June 2009.

Can someone please feedback to them directly? How to do that?
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why not leave a review at iTunes?

or if you don't mind I can just copy and paste your comment on the product review.

This post has been edited by aeronyc: Jan 29 2010, 11:05 AM
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QUOTE(aeronyc @ Jan 29 2010, 10:58 AM)
just my views of papago (do note i'm a new GPS user ya... )

pro
1. like the junction view, helps a lot, definitely worth the money
2. most updated map for iphone so far
3. voice command that can tell you 'turn left at the third junction', etc

cons
1. feel like 'delay' for a few seconds, the phone show my location about 3 sec later...
2. can't link to contacts like google map do, ie save the location and tie to a contact in the phone
3. sometimes ask me to U-turn at junction that cannot u-turn - physically cannot...
4. junction at certain new highway quite confusing, believe is because map not updated (although these highway are build prior to jun 09) - hope the updated version will fix this

overall, quite happy with it.

hope it helps


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why not leave a review at iTunes?

or if you don't mind I can just copy and paste your comment on the product review.
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it wud be a really good idea to leave reviews on app store..especially for this app as it is a niche product for SG n MY only...
so those who r nt familiar with this forum wud also get a chance to read the review n who knows if Maction wud actually implement those suggestions..smile.gif
write here
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QUOTE(ryan_giggs @ Jan 29 2010, 09:27 AM)
Hi,

I located in Penang area and i don't know why my Papago Pro didn't come out the junction view when i near the highway junction area.... Anybody know how to turn on the junction view feature or it's automatically turn ON? hmm.gif
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I'm yet to buy M6 but already have X5. means UI probably different but supposedly that function already on.

Anyway, you can't expect all junction to have JV. all of this are done locally by our mappers at MfM. obviously you can expect more JV in KL compared to other places


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QUOTE(aeronyc @ Jan 29 2010, 10:58 AM)

cons
1. feel like 'delay' for a few seconds, the phone show my location about 3 sec later...
2. can't link to contacts like google map do, ie save the location and tie to a contact in the phone
3. sometimes ask me to U-turn at junction that cannot u-turn - physically cannot...
4. junction at certain new highway quite confusing, believe is because map not updated (although these highway are build prior to jun 09) - hope the updated version will fix this
You can't expect a gps phone to be as sharp and accurate as PND. this is a software modified to suit the phone. delay 3 sec still considered normal for a phone


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Is tomtom or others 3rd party GPS app is FOC?
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Nope.. You need to purchase.
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I know I need to purchase the app. I mean every single time I use I need pay for data?
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As i said earlier, Papago is slower than Sygic when re-routing. It might be best to slow down your vehicle when it's re-routing.

I'm actually using Ipod Touch 1G + IGPS360 module + GPSSerial software. I believe my combo has better GPS response and accuracy than Iphone 3G/3GS built-in GPS. So I never have lag/delay in my current position.

No, u don't need data plan at all for this app. Data plan is also not needed for GPS. That's why I can use Papgo & Sygic on my Ipod Touch.

BTW, I've submitted my mini review on Papago at Itunes.
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I know I need to purchase the app. I mean every single time I use I need pay for data?
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But then you can't get phone call. Anyone know is data needed?

im not yet get iphone yet. But soon (:
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QUOTE(Xirality @ Jan 30 2010, 02:36 PM)
But then you can't get phone call. Anyone know is data needed?
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well you try it and see how....if it work then no worries there wont be any data charges....anyway ur not in any data plan...???

QUOTE(Xirality @ Jan 30 2010, 02:44 PM)
im not yet get iphone yet. But soon (:
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guys, im using sygic on my iPhone. But somehow the map is not really up-to-date. how do i update the maps? thanks in advance
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will papago heaten up the iphone like tom tom did?? so far so gud for me tom tom.
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will papago heaten up the iphone like tom tom did??  so far so gud for me tom tom.
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Hi I was wondering does papago allow you to set the location which you want to go by using coordinates? Because I plan to get it and use it to get to Cheras Pasar Malam which I never been there before. But I do have the coordinates.
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i notice the HK papago m6 support english language & voice, so if change the map to MY version than it should be as good as the m6 MY&SG version rite?


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i notice the HK papago m6 support english language & voice, so if change the map to MY version than it should be as good as the m6 MY&SG version rite?
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finally i install the MY&SG version. in terms of coverage really rocks! especially when manual update the map. totally blew Tomtom. but the interface not as smooth as Tomtom. the transitions abit lag compare to tomtom. hope they gonna improvise it to make it more smooth, better UI.

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QUOTE(unknowmaster @ Jan 31 2010, 04:55 PM)
Hi I was wondering does papago allow you to set the location which you want to go by using coordinates? Because I plan to get it and use it to get to Cheras Pasar Malam which I never been there before. But I do have the coordinates.
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Nope... not in this version. But you can just tap at the map to select the location you navigate to, or just search by POI or road name.
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Nope... not in this version. But you can just tap at the map to select the location you navigate to, or just search by POI or road name.
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Thanks for the info. I don't think can edit the poi to add new ones as well >.<
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Hmmm just about to purchase the papago pro but app store disallow saying that "this item is currently being modified. Please try again later"

Hmmm new maps? more features? =)
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Lucky you, PAPAGO PRO just had a price drop from 29.99 to 19.99
http://appshopper.com/navigation/papago-si...re-malaysia-pro


Cheers
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I believe this is the best bargain.

Nowhere it can drop to 9.99 as the taiwanese version as malaysian papago has a Lite version.

So, better grab it while you can
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QUOTE(jssl @ Feb 1 2010, 04:07 PM)
@Killerfly

Lucky you, PAPAGO PRO just had a price drop from 29.99 to 19.99
http://appshopper.com/navigation/papago-si...re-malaysia-pro
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QUOTE(mmmbop @ Feb 1 2010, 04:29 PM)
I believe this is the best bargain.

Nowhere it can drop to 9.99 as the taiwanese version as malaysian papago has a Lite version.

So, better grab it while you can
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Yay!! Getting it now biggrin.gif good bargain biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(jssl @ Feb 1 2010, 04:07 PM)
@Killerfly

Lucky you, PAPAGO PRO just had a price drop from 29.99 to 19.99
http://appshopper.com/navigation/papago-si...re-malaysia-pro
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thanks for the info bro..smile.gif
saw ur post n din wait any longer to get it..
downloading now and wud try out later today or tomolo..smile.gif

I managed to sync my phone before I left my office, hence got to try the Papago or ppg as they call it..tongue.gif

I could just use the app for a short while..but for what it's worth, ppg does cover a whole lot more than my sygic... nod.gif
user posted imageuser posted image

both the SS are taken at the same location..sygic assumes im standing in the middle of nowhere as compared to ppg who knows exactly whr i am..
u mite wonder y sygic is showing blank.. well tat is coz currently i am in my hometown and its a small town which sygic's/tomtom's map provider cant update every now n then as they are based outside of the country.. ppg on the other hand uses mfm, which is updated n maintained well by our fellow malaysian..biggrin.gif
this kinda problem shud nt affect users in big cities (Kl, SG) as they are updated regularly..
but what abt POIs? i cant get POIs for kl rite now, but below is the situation here..i searched for POIs nearby my loaction:
user posted imageuser posted imageuser posted imageuser posted imageuser posted imageuser posted image

here, for ppg, all the POIs nearby are listed on one page..cud be a good thing maybe..
sygic puts them in categories and ask u to find wats nearby..

frm the ss above u can also see the difference between both the gui..

in a nutshell...
map coverage- Papago has the edge because of the regularly updated MFM
POIs- again same as above.
GUI- sygic is surely miles ahead of ppg..

i'll get to use it more and add more input as n when i can..smile.gif
hope this helps icon_rolleyes.gif


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Oh well, should have bought Papago at USD19 instead of USD29 sad.gif
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Very reasonable for the PRO version, going to get it and try it out.
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tried the navigation today..
its smooth n fairly fast...
still trying to understand the voice guidance la..
they certainly hv to improve on tat..smile.gif
sorry for the low pq..
was trying to tap to focus only to realize tat it was a 3g... sweat.gif

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Can you guys please check which MFM version the 6.2 is using?
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eh guys, i know this sound stupid as i'm new GPS user, bought PPG Pro yesterday and found out it can't detect my current location ohmy.gif i can search thru maps but cant navigate, btw my location is in KL... any guru can help?!
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Your Iphone is 3G or 3GS right?
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yeap 3Gs.. is't something to do with poor satelite signal?

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QUOTE(myke @ Feb 2 2010, 05:12 PM)
eh guys, i know this sound stupid as i'm new GPS user, bought PPG Pro yesterday and found out it can't detect my current location  ohmy.gif i can search thru maps but cant navigate, btw my location is in KL... any guru can help?!
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yeap 3Gs.. is't something to do with poor satelite signal?
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check ur settings>general> location service is on or nt..
it shud be working
i just got it yest n trying it out..working fine
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sorry 2 sound stupid, wats d std gps app tat came wif d iphone blink.gif
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sorry 2 sound stupid, wats d std gps app tat came wif d iphone  blink.gif
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Hi guys ..want to clearified y my ppg show my location at jln pramlee suppose now im in shah alam.. I try restart but still same..my current location is on..


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QUOTE(myke @ Feb 2 2010, 06:12 PM)
eh guys, i know this sound stupid as i'm new GPS user, bought PPG Pro yesterday and found out it can't detect my current location  ohmy.gif i can search thru maps but cant navigate, btw my location is in KL... any guru can help?!
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Ur problem like me la bro...how come the current location show me at jln pramlee rite now...wtf..now my gps good signal..n i more thing i discover after i install this ppg my g maps also pening ..y arr??..any sifoo can solve my prob..tqvm


Added on February 3, 2010, 3:34 amProb settle..reinstall true itunes..yeahh..

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QUOTE(khalpowers @ Feb 3 2010, 01:19 AM)
Hi guys ..want to clearified y my ppg show my location at jln pramlee suppose now im in shah alam.. I try restart but still same..my current location is on..


Added on February 3, 2010, 1:25 am
Ur problem like me la bro...how come the current location show me at jln pramlee rite now...wtf..now my gps good signal..n i more thing i discover after i install this ppg my g maps also pening ..y arr??..any sifoo can solve my prob..tqvm


Added on February 3, 2010, 3:34 amProb settle..reinstall true itunes..yeahh..
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yes actually who are facing the gps connection problem...just try reinstalling the app..it will be fine.. sweat.gif
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can somebody help me please? i'll be going to temerloh tomorrow. can somebody with papago check how detail is the map coverage there. if the map is ok, i'll buy the app. thanx in advance!!
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hi guys,

Yesterday i tried with Papago with iphone setting "Airplane Mode" ON....but my iphone 3gs cannot get the signal from satellite at all after I was driving on the road for 20mins......but once i turn OFF the "Airplane Mode" which means my phone line is back with 3G ON, the GPS can detect my location instantly.

So, does this mean that our iphone 3gs with "A-GPS" chip will only work when we have the 3G line ON? I'm trying to save money by not using 3G data but only the A-GPS to get signal from satellite but doesn't work..... cry.gif

Anyone try before ah?
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Yes, the GPS function will only work with telephone. Turning on the Airplane Mode will turn off the GPS as well (I wish Apple could separate these two though)

I'm using TomTom v1.0 map (Singapore/Malaysia) currently. If anyone scroll back a few pages, you will notice my previous reviews of TomTom (MY/SG) vs Sygic (MY/SG/TH). Also had a 3-day driving experience with TomTom Thailand a few weeks ago.

One thing I notice with my current phone. Turning on Location Service and launching my TomTom apps will result in "Waiting for GPS signal" indefinitely. My workaround: I launch Google's map and touch the round circle to pin point my current location. After that I relaunch TomTom and the signal is now locked.
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QUOTE(ryan_giggs @ Feb 4 2010, 09:55 AM)
hi guys,

Yesterday i tried with Papago with iphone setting "Airplane Mode" ON....but my iphone 3gs cannot get the signal from satellite at all after I was driving on the road for 20mins......but once i turn OFF the "Airplane Mode" which means my phone line is back with 3G ON, the GPS can detect my location instantly.

So, does this mean that our iphone 3gs with "A-GPS" chip will only work when we have the 3G line ON? I'm trying to save money by not using 3G data but only the A-GPS to get signal from satellite but doesn't work.....  cry.gif

Anyone try before ah?
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but following on my experince...my line was barred for a couple of days by maxis...but i could connect and use the gps as usual...normally barred meansyour internet connection and line is cut off right...but this still work i meant both sygic and papago...

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Currently I'm using Papago Lite.

I would like to know how do I update my maps?
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Currently I'm using Papago Lite.

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Download map from MfM. Install. copy and paste in the .ipa file of the resepective Maps folder in iTunes.
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Thanks for all the good review on papago pro guys. I just bought and still downloading from iTunes. Didn't know that the price was higher than USD19.90 before. So thankful for the good deal.

EDIT:

First time GPS user here. Was waiting for this software for quite some time since I am using non jailbreak iphones. I will test this both on my iphone 3G and 3GS and give some reviews later. I am currently on a Celcom 3G unlimited package, and with all the 3G problems lately with Celcom, I hope the 3G problem would not affect too much on the performance of the A-GPS.

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QUOTE(mmmbop @ Feb 4 2010, 03:25 PM)
Download map from MfM. Install. copy and paste in the .ipa file of the resepective Maps folder in iTunes.
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I am downloading the latest map for Papago iPhone.

Can you explain where to find the maps folder in itunes?
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QUOTE(yuvanesh @ Feb 2 2010, 06:19 PM)
well maybe that can be the problem...if doesnt work again try reinstalling the app on your phone...
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check ur settings>general> location service is on or nt..
it shud be working
i just got it yest n trying it out..working fine
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QUOTE(khalpowers @ Feb 3 2010, 01:19 AM)
Hi guys ..want to clearified y my ppg show my location at jln pramlee suppose now im in shah alam.. I try restart but still same..my current location is on..


Added on February 3, 2010, 1:25 am
Ur problem like me la bro...how come the current location show me at jln pramlee rite now...wtf..now my gps good signal..n i more thing i discover after i install this ppg my g maps also pening ..y arr??..any sifoo can solve my prob..tqvm


Added on February 3, 2010, 3:34 amProb settle..reinstall true itunes..yeahh..
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QUOTE(yuvanesh @ Feb 3 2010, 12:05 PM)
yes actually who are facing the gps connection problem...just try reinstalling the app..it will be fine.. sweat.gif
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i deleted PPG from iphone.. then sync back from itunes also the same problem sad.gif does this mean reinstalled successfully? location service is on.. battery is full, the satellite signal keep searching & searching, current location is still at Jln P. Ramlee as i'm in sri hartamas! my $19.99 is gone mad.gif
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To all sifus. Whats the different btween PPG Pro and Lite? Bside the price? smile.gif
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To all sifus. Whats the different btween PPG Pro and Lite? Bside the price? smile.gif
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Junction View and 3D buildings

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Junction View and 3D buildings
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may sound a bit stupid here, but how does any of these gps software compares with Garmin XT? I'm a user of garmin right now and it's very updated with the latest map fr MFM...

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may sound a bit stupid here, but how does any of these gps software compares with Garmin XT? I'm a user of garmin right now and it's very updated with the latest map fr MFM...
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If you have Jailbreaked your iPhone, You will be able to download the lastest MFM for papago and installed it into the phone.
For me the voice navigation lose to garmin but it has junction view. But I am not sure, maybe I am used to garmin too much whistling.gif
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you dont have to jailbreak your phone in order to change the map smile.gif
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QUOTE(loowy @ Feb 5 2010, 11:13 AM)
you dont have to jailbreak your phone in order to change the map smile.gif
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I'm using Papago Pro and I think its the best now for Malaysian roads and found it to be more stable in GPS connection compared to others. If don't use SSH method you mean modify the ipa file and load into iTunes?. BTW, do we update all the files from Papago MFM as I think some files not recommended to be updated eg. POI, am I correct?.
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QUOTE(DigitalTech @ Feb 4 2010, 04:08 PM)
I am downloading the latest map for Papago iPhone.

Can you explain where to find the maps folder in itunes?
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1. open the .ipa file with winrar or the like.

2. change the extension of .psu from MfM to .psz

3. add all the new files from mfm into the maps folder of .ipa file, with exception of file with the extension of .kuf

That will do.


BTW, this is the first time ever I'm using dedicated satnav apps for iphone with GPS..the gmaps use A-GPS..

What I realize the iphone GPS receiver is not as good as other phone. there were several occurences of the receiver having problem in locking even while routing

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Mobil phone GPS Tracking technology ,
u can tracking your lost phone, or your friends location....lol
for detail pls go this site check :h tt p://gps.ud999.com/cf.asp?dq760115
(can i sharing this website, if not pls delete it .thank you )

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QUOTE(mmmbop @ Feb 5 2010, 03:04 PM)
1. open the .ipa file with winrar or the like.

2. change the extension of .psu from MfM to .psz

3. add all the new files from mfm into the maps folder of .ipa file, with exception of file with the extension of .kuf

That will do.
BTW, this is the first time ever I'm using dedicated satnav apps for iphone with GPS..the gmaps use A-GPS..

What I realize the iphone GPS receiver is not as good as other phone. there were several occurences of the receiver having problem in locking even while routing
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where do we get the latest mfm maps?

is it specific iphone map?
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QUOTE(myke @ Feb 4 2010, 10:43 PM)
i deleted PPG from iphone.. then sync back from itunes also the same problem sad.gif does this mean reinstalled successfully? location service is on.. battery is full, the satellite signal keep searching & searching, current location is still at Jln P. Ramlee as i'm in sri hartamas! my $19.99 is gone  mad.gif
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Tried reinstalling twice, i am still stucked at Jln P Ramlee!!
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Like I mentioned previously, to debug the GPS functionality, I will open Google Map app, touch the blue circle button to see whether your GPS can lock your position. After the tiny blue dot becomes smaller and more precise, quit the map and launch your 3rd party apps (papago, TomTom).

If your apps still indicate 'searching for GPS signal' then it's not the GPS chip that have issues. It's the apps.
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QUOTE(futago @ Feb 6 2010, 07:21 AM)
Tried reinstalling twice, i am still stucked at Jln P Ramlee!!
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i also got the same problem..
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i have a fren brought this papago and i tried it, but i cant really see the junction view...how to active it? and also i dint see 3d buildings....i am sure is not lite tho...
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QUOTE(futago @ Feb 6 2010, 08:21 AM)
Tried reinstalling twice, i am still stucked at Jln P Ramlee!!
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Bro..u must turn on the ppg when u dlm keta maa..im sure now u stuck at jln pramlee coz u not navigate from the car rite..b4 this i also face same prob ,after i install then i try use it from my room but tha location show me at jln pramlee...hehe..


Added on February 6, 2010, 3:47 pmWhen inside the car..try search poi..after got tha results go to navigate..then ur current location should be ok...

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QUOTE(khalpowers @ Feb 6 2010, 03:41 PM)
Bro..u must turn on the ppg when u dlm keta maa..im sure now u stuck at jln pramlee coz u not navigate from the car rite..b4 this i also face same prob ,after i install then i try use it from my room but tha location show me at jln pramlee...hehe..


Added on February 6, 2010, 3:47 pmWhen inside the car..try search poi..after got tha results go to navigate..then ur current location should be ok...
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well bro gps works with satelite...so if you want to use it pls u need a ope space...not your room... doh.gif
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QUOTE(yuvanesh @ Feb 6 2010, 05:09 PM)
well bro gps works with satelite...so if you want to use it pls u need a ope space...not your room... doh.gif
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Hehe.. rclxm9.gif

Ps im so excited after install ppg looo..cannot wait ..hehehe
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Hi all,

i just isntalled my papago and updated it with the latest maps from malfreemaps. everything is working superbly well!!

anyways, for those who need help on how to update the maps feel free to pm me or msn me (meng2108[at]hotmail[dot][com])

here are the steps that i used:

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Courtesy of bro sfliu:

And heres the steps, and remember guys, "PLEASE BUY THE ORIGINAL SOFTWARE" its only USD9.90 from itunes..support the developer and get the free update in future.

1. Of cource, buy Papago Taiwan from itunes and install into your iphone (it might take sometime to download, 465MB)
2. Download Papago Android X5 map (please dont ask me where to download)
3. Extract it, you will be able to see 28 files in total.
4. SSH your iphone (please google yourself to find out how to SSH into your iphone, I am using WinSCP, but you need wifi connection)
5. go to /private/var/mobile/Applications/C3C25D61-0DD8-4E90-8288-AC3E7A1A82CE/PAPAGO! Taiwan.app/Navi/Maps/TW (if you cant find the C3C25xxx folder, try open the rest one by one, im not sure whether the folder name will be the same or not)
6. Replace the Android X5 map with the files inside the folder, and remember, please change the Octal permission to 0755 for each file you replace (26 files).
7. Unplug your iphone sync cable, give your iphone a kiss, say thanks to malfreemaps & me

Courtesy of bro scaremonger:
rename MapAniPOI.psu -> MapAniPOI.psz
rename Papago.dbp -> papago.dbp
rename standard.mb6 -> Standard.mb6
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Just bought papago pro few days ago, served me well, value for money.
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QUOTE(loowy @ Feb 5 2010, 11:13 AM)
you dont have to jailbreak your phone in order to change the map smile.gif
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Hi, can you elaborate please. I have download new MFM Pagago map, and update the maps in the .ipa. However, always got error during installation (resources had been modified ..)

Overall, I am happy with the Papago Pro edition. 19.95 well spent.
To use the lastest map, have to jb the iphone. It would be great if someone can share with us how to install new maps with the Papago For Iphone without the need for jb.
Thanks.
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The steps i provided is for jb phones. I heard can use winrar to bundle the maps for non jb phone
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its the same actually whether ure doing it with jb or without.. instead of sshing into the phone and get to the respective folder, u just have to open the ipa file in your itunes folder via winrar.. then copy and paste the required files , and restart ur itunes ( duno if its necessary) and sync it into ur phone.. thats about it i think wink.gif
Hope it helps though
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QUOTE(red-queen @ Feb 6 2010, 08:29 PM)
The steps i provided is for jb phones. I heard can use winrar to bundle the maps for non jb phone
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I have read about past post in MFM forum about using winrar to access the ipa file and replace the original maps with the lastest one from MFM. However the modified ipa cannot be used on iphone that is not jb. Installation via itune will report error ( ... resources have been modified etc, cannot install ...)
However, still there are ppl claim can upgrade maps without jb. However, someone can provide details. Thanks.
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QUOTE(safilo @ Feb 6 2010, 10:16 PM)
I have read about past post in MFM forum about using winrar to access the ipa file and replace the original maps with the lastest one from MFM. However the modified ipa cannot be used on iphone that is not jb. Installation via itune will report error ( ... resources have been modified etc, cannot install ...)
However, still there are ppl claim can upgrade maps without jb. However, someone can provide details. Thanks.
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whoopsie, i did the steps (using winrar) using my jbed iphone..
didnt know it cant work for those tat are not jbed..
Sorry
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QUOTE(Rikef @ Feb 6 2010, 09:23 AM)
i also got the same problem..
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my experince using PPG PRO .

no matter how , the map will show u r in jln p ramlee whenever u open the apps . than try this .

go to map view .
wait for a sound " searching for satelite signal " until " satelite search complete ...
than u click function button under the screen . tap current position . yr position only able to locked now .
than u may start use navi to POI or any road .

p/s activate 3G network will help alot on position locking via satelite .
must use under clear sky . best to mount yr iphone on windshield .

so far , PPG quite good . quite accurate , routing fast .
only disadvantages so far is .. the things dunno shortcut ....only ask u follow main road .....



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QUOTE(spidercat @ Feb 7 2010, 09:59 AM)
my experince using PPG PRO .

no matter how , the map will show u r in jln p ramlee whenever u open the apps . than try this .

go to map view .
wait for a sound " searching for satelite signal " until " satelite search complete ...
than u click function button under the screen . tap current position . yr position only able to locked now .
than u may start use navi to POI or any road .

p/s activate 3G network will help alot on position locking via satelite .
must use under clear sky . best to mount yr iphone on windshield .

so far , PPG quite good . quite accurate , routing fast .
only disadvantages so far is .. the things dunno shortcut ....only ask u follow main road .....
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It should know shortcut. Try setting the routing to the faster way or something. currently its set to ways which are easier for cars to drive on
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Bought PPG as well

the map very accurate, however, I have some problem the application will crash when click on the 'near POI' search. however, this fixed when I SSH and install the new updated map from mfm.

the UI is horrible~ lol.. the slide very slow, GPS lock okay, routing okay, map detail BEST!
even update till Kampar UTAR Block E also have the road in the map... lol..
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QUOTE(my44 @ Feb 6 2010, 09:18 AM)
Like I mentioned previously, to debug the GPS functionality, I will open Google Map app, touch the blue circle button to see whether your GPS can lock your position. After the tiny blue dot becomes smaller and more precise, quit the map and launch your 3rd party apps (papago, TomTom).

If your apps still indicate 'searching for GPS signal' then it's not the GPS chip that have issues. It's the apps.
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Strange. many others doesn't have problem right from installation. there must be some difference in terms of fw version, jb/non jb etc that cause this


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QUOTE(xphossis @ Feb 6 2010, 07:00 AM)
where do we get the latest mfm maps?

is it specific iphone map?
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Malfreemaps.com

Find the download section. Look for latest Papago for android/iphone version. install and you are good to go.

Guess later many will flock to Mfm for free map..hopefully you guys do some favour by contributing pois etc to mfm to grow it further. the more you give, the more you will get..in terms of detailed map of course


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QUOTE(safilo @ Feb 6 2010, 08:24 PM)
Hi, can you elaborate please. I have download new MFM Pagago map, and update the maps in the .ipa. However, always got error during installation (resources had been modified ..)

Overall, I am happy with the Papago Pro edition. 19.95 well spent.
To use the lastest map, have to jb the iphone. It would be great if someone can share with us how to install new maps with the Papago For Iphone without the need for jb.
Thanks.
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First thing first.

Map update can be done via BOTH JB and non JB. the winrar/winzip method is for non JB

And for those have problem like error during installation,

please,

1. Install first WITHOUT any modification (means original Papago maps)
2. Later you update the map using winrar.


As a precaution, do backup the original Papago maps so if anything goes horribly wrong, you can restore to original.

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Strange. many others doesn't have problem right from installation. there must be some difference in terms of fw version, jb/non jb etc that cause this


Added on February 8, 2010, 10:24 am

Malfreemaps.com

Find the download section. Look for latest Papago for android/iphone version. install and you are good to go.

Guess later many will flock to Mfm for free map..hopefully you guys do some favour by contributing pois etc to mfm to grow it further. the more you give, the more you will get..in terms of detailed map of course


Added on February 8, 2010, 10:29 am
First thing first.

Map update can be done via BOTH JB and non JB. the winrar/winzip method is for non JB

And for those have problem like error during installation,

please,

1. Install first WITHOUT any modification (means original Papago maps)
2. Later you update the map using winrar.


As a precaution, do backup the original Papago maps so if anything goes horribly wrong, you can restore to original.
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can anyone pm me where to download the latest map? I would like to give it a try icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(TheUrbNorm @ Feb 8 2010, 07:31 PM)
can anyone pm me where to download the latest map? I would like to give it a try  icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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dude,

mmmbop just posted like 1 post before you on where to download the maps, FFS you even quoted his answer. are you really that ignorant?

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Managed to update to the latest map 100203 version... Took sometime for it to lock the gps

update using ssh method...
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Managed to update to the latest map 100203 version... Took sometime for it to lock the gps

update using ssh method...
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Confirm only jb ver can update maps thru winrar n using ssh..only jb can Use modified IPA Files using winrar.


Added on February 9, 2010, 12:25 am for the anyone claim their succecfull update map thru un jb iphone pls show me how ...

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QUOTE(khalpowers @ Feb 9 2010, 12:16 AM)
Confirm only jb ver can update maps thru winrar n using ssh..only jb can Use modified IPA Files using winrar.


Added on February 9, 2010, 12:25 am for the anyone claim their succecfull update map thru un jb iphone pls show me how ...
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Tried with non JB too, error occurs same with others, will the someone care to share his expertise?
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Sorry.. I bought the app. And update the maps to ver 100203.. However, i have a problem here.. how to use the app? I click on Road search.. But, i can't key in the complete address here.. And when i click on search.. nothing happend.. Pls advice.. TQ
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QUOTE(sugen @ Feb 9 2010, 02:59 PM)
Sorry.. I bought the app. And update the maps to ver 100203.. However, i have a problem here.. how to use the app? I click on Road search.. But, i can't key in the complete address here.. And when i click on search.. nothing happend.. Pls advice.. TQ
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follow the steps that i have posted. you need to edit 3 files because when you install the ver 100203 maps, it's actually for android.

so you need to rename 3 file names. i've posted the detailed steps already.
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Doing the rename of

rename MapAniPOI.psu -> MapAniPOI.psz
rename Papago.dbp -> papago.dbp
rename standard.mb6 -> Standard.mb6

I am not using the Taiwan ver.. Not sure is it the same..

QUOTE(red-queen @ Feb 9 2010, 03:06 PM)
follow the steps that i have posted. you need to edit 3 files because when you install the ver 100203 maps, it's actually for android.

so you need to rename 3 file names. i've posted the detailed steps already.
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Added on February 9, 2010, 3:32 pmOk.. Done.. How to use it for NAVIGATION.. I launch the app. Click the ROAD SEARCH. I which to key in the address such as 199, Jalan PP19/19 Taman. Then, i am stuck.. No more space for entering the address. Like that how to Navigate? If i continue with Search. The from the top it return result Matched 199, Jalan PP19/19, Taman.. And the click is light blue in color.. Tat is all.. I can only click BACK button..

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Here is the problem i got.. First, it able to LOCK the satellite location.. But, i am not able to do NAVIGATION.. When i click on SEACH location.. I try to type in address. And i notice that i am not able to type in a FULL address.. Then, i just type in Jalan Miami Green & click search.. This is what i am getting..Then, how to do navigation? pls advice..Tq

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QUOTE(sugen @ Feb 9 2010, 08:11 PM)
Here is the problem i got.. First, it able to LOCK the satellite location.. But, i am not able to do NAVIGATION.. When i click on SEACH location.. I try to type in address. And i notice that i am not able to type in a FULL address.. Then, i just type in Jalan Miami Green & click search.. This is what i am getting..Then, how to do navigation? pls advice..Tq
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yes, i also cannot type the full address. so i just search by road name. cannot put like the house number or lot number.

once you're in that screen, just click on that road and then on the next screen, click on a Go! button and it will automatically start the routing.


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QUOTE(sugen @ Feb 9 2010, 03:25 PM)
Doing the rename of

rename MapAniPOI.psu -> MapAniPOI.psz
rename Papago.dbp -> papago.dbp
rename standard.mb6 -> Standard.mb6

I am not using the Taiwan ver.. Not sure is it the same..

Added on February 9, 2010, 3:32 pmOk.. Done.. How to use it for NAVIGATION.. I launch the app. Click the ROAD SEARCH. I which to key in the address such as 199, Jalan PP19/19 Taman. Then, i am stuck.. No more space for entering the address. Like that how to Navigate? If i continue with Search. The from the top it return result Matched 199, Jalan PP19/19, Taman.. And the click is light blue in color.. Tat is all.. I can only click BACK button..

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doesn't matter if yours is taiwan, my/sg, bangla, or china version. you still need to rename the file because .psu if im not mistaken it is for Android, hence you need to change it to .psz which is ppg format. as for the papago.dbp and standard.mb6, it's just about the caps and no caps because Unix base OS is case sensitive.

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Great ! Thanks & it works now.. Ok, my problem solved by reinstalled the app & re-update the map. Now our Iphone is a TRUE GPS navigation device with the malfreemaps... TomTom/ Sygic and others.. we can forget about it.. To me the most important thing is the map...Somemore got Junction view !!! Thanks Papago & malfreemaps.. Yahoo

QUOTE(red-queen @ Feb 10 2010, 12:32 AM)
yes, i also cannot type the full address. so i just search by road name. cannot put like the house number or lot number.

once you're in that screen, just click on that road and then on the next screen, click on a Go! button and it will automatically start the routing.


Added on February 10, 2010, 12:34 am

doesn't matter if yours is taiwan, my/sg, bangla, or china version. you still need to rename the file because .psu if im not mistaken it is for Android, hence you need to change it to .psz which is ppg format. as for the papago.dbp and standard.mb6, it's just about the caps and no caps because Unix base OS is case sensitive.
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Does anyone knows where can we buy those GPS application for iphone 3gs?
Im from penang...where can i get it?
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Im from penang...where can i get it?
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Appstore la, where else... whether you in penang, JB, KL, as long as you have internet connection you can purchase it from app store in iTunes.
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Im from penang...where can i get it?
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QUOTE(ksc_3688 @ Feb 10 2010, 09:52 AM)
Appstore la, where else... whether you in penang, JB, KL, as long as you have internet connection you can purchase it from app store in iTunes.
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QUOTE(red-queen @ Feb 10 2010, 12:32 AM)
yes, i also cannot type the full address. so i just search by road name. cannot put like the house number or lot number.

once you're in that screen, just click on that road and then on the next screen, click on a Go! button and it will automatically start the routing.


Added on February 10, 2010, 12:34 am

doesn't matter if yours is taiwan, my/sg, bangla, or china version. you still need to rename the file because .psu if im not mistaken it is for Android, hence you need to change it to .psz which is ppg format. as for the papago.dbp and standard.mb6, it's just about the caps and no caps because Unix base OS is case sensitive.
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just wanna to add.. BTW i'm on non JB so don't know whether this will make any difference.

I only changed the .psu to .psz because the original iphone papago's version is in .psz version.

I dont change the caps on .dbp etc and it still works fine.

BTW don't think .psu for android solely because windows mobile version also .psu
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QUOTE(mmmbop @ Feb 10 2010, 10:38 AM)
just wanna to add.. BTW i'm on non JB so don't know whether this will make any difference.

I only changed the .psu to .psz because the original iphone papago's version is in .psz version.

I dont change the caps on .dbp etc and it still works fine.

BTW don't think .psu for android solely because windows mobile version also .psu
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cool, as long as it's working right? smile.gif but if you face any probs, then you should try renaming the .dbp and .mb6 files.

anyways i dunno if .psu is solely for android or not, but i do know that it's not for iPhone. so yeah, you gotta rename the .psu to .psz for sure.
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QUOTE(sugen @ Feb 9 2010, 03:25 PM)
Doing the rename of

rename MapAniPOI.psu -> MapAniPOI.psz
rename Papago.dbp -> papago.dbp
rename standard.mb6 -> Standard.mb6

I am not using the Taiwan ver.. Not sure is it the same..

Added on February 9, 2010, 3:32 pmOk.. Done.. How to use it for NAVIGATION.. I launch the app. Click the ROAD SEARCH. I which to key in the address such as 199, Jalan PP19/19 Taman. Then, i am stuck.. No more space for entering the address. Like that how to Navigate? If i continue with Search. The from the top it return result Matched 199, Jalan PP19/19, Taman.. And the click is light blue in color.. Tat is all.. I can only click BACK button..

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The M6 does not support full address search. Even X5 doesn't as well.
Hope further update will give more features and pretty please..fix the UI lag..really doesn't suit the smoothness of iPhone capacitive screen

Update: I have X5 which also uses MfM and it seems the map database in X5 is even newer than M6.

While Papago does not support full address function like garmin, road search is available. And in my case, a specific road name that I wish to go appeared in X5 but not in M6.

So it all boils down on the database, not the apps itself.

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no problem la.. As long as they have a complete map.. that it stuns already..

QUOTE(mmmbop @ Feb 10 2010, 10:52 AM)
The M6 does not support full address search. Even X5 doesn't as well.
Hope further update will give more features and pretty please..fix the UI lag..really doesn't suit the smoothness of iPhone capacitive screen

Update: I have X5 which also uses MfM and it seems the map database in X5 is even newer than M6.

While Papago does not support full address function like garmin, road search is available. And in my case, a specific road name that I wish to go appeared in X5 but not in M6.

So it all boils down on the database, not the apps itself.
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i have been using tomtom and now using papago. Comparing these two, it is really a lot of different. Tomtom is superior in everything to papago EXCEPT it's map not updated and the POI.

Tomtom have much better UI, better voice directing, better looking map which is easier to read, more features like alternative road, bypass toll and so on. The only problem is like I said, it's map not updated which is a big problem for a GPS software.

Papago's UI, features, map view are all very lousy. Like done by some student's final year project. But it is the only GPS software in iphone that alllows usage of MFM. And it's cheap too compared to all the other GPS apps.

If only some one do something like tomtom and make it us MFM then it will be perfect.
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Sorry to all taikors with my innane question but iphone 3gs has integrated GPS function right? i am very close to making a decision to buying the 16gb and want to know if i can use free voice navigation on the papago.

Thanks to all taikors in advance.
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all GPS apps have voice navigation.

But if you are buying iphone solely for the GPS then better not. Cause iphone as a GPS device is not as good as specialized gps devices like garmin.

But if you are buying iphone for it being iphone and then want to use it secondary as GPS then okay.
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QUOTE(abubin @ Feb 11 2010, 04:36 PM)
all GPS apps have voice navigation.

But if you are buying iphone solely for the GPS then better not. Cause iphone as a GPS device is not as good as specialized gps devices like garmin.

But if you are buying iphone for it being iphone and then want to use it secondary as GPS then okay.
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Ok thanks, i am looking for the GPS as a tool which might come in handy (hence secondary) on emergencies. Of coz nothing beats the standalone GPS devices.


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currently using papago , POI is good ~
map detail good

but accuracy not very good especially there is few road side by side
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QUOTE(safilo @ Feb 6 2010, 10:16 PM)
I have read about past post in MFM forum about using winrar to access the ipa file and replace the original maps with the lastest one from MFM. However the modified ipa cannot be used on iphone that is not jb. Installation via itune will report error ( ... resources have been modified etc, cannot install ...)
However, still there are ppl claim can upgrade maps without jb. However, someone can provide details. Thanks.
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Hi! thinking of getting papago for my iPhone 3Gs non j-break. Can some one provide me more detail on how to access ipa files and replace the original maps with winrar ? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(kc3832 @ Feb 12 2010, 02:01 PM)
Hi! thinking of getting papago for my iPhone 3Gs non j-break. Can some one provide me more detail on how to access ipa files and replace the original maps with winrar ?  tongue.gif
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Hi, from what I have gathered, it is NOT POSSIBLE to change ipa file and reinstalled on a non-jb iphone. Pagago M6 maps can be replaced /upgrade with the ones from MFM (i noticed that about every 2 weeks) only if you have jb your iphone.
The most recent one from MFM is dated yesterday (11th Feb, 2010). The one that come with original papago M6 is June last year.
Hope this help.
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Hi! thinking of getting papago for my iPhone 3Gs non j-break. Can some one provide me more detail on how to access ipa files and replace the original maps with winrar ?  tongue.gif
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You don't really need to j-break you phone to copy the files into your iphone. You can use third party software that allow copying files into your iphone. Or you can use dropbox. Drop the files into your dropbox from PC and then from iphone, you should be able to see the files. Sorry dropbox won' t can't download files.

As for copying the files, go to malfreemaps website and download latest file for M6 or android X5. It is an exe file. Run the file in you windows and it will ask you which format you want to install the maps. Choose Android X5 and the installer will copy the maps into your PC. After that, copy the files into your iphone.

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Courtesy of bro sfliu from malfreemaps.com

And heres the steps, and remember guys, "PLEASE BUY THE ORIGINAL SOFTWARE" its only USD9.90 from itunes..support the developer and get the free update in future.

1. Of cource, buy Papago Taiwan from itunes and install into your iphone (it might take sometime to download, 465MB)
2. Download Papago Android X5 map (please dont ask me where to download)
3. Extract it, you will be able to see 28 files in total.
4. SSH your iphone (please google yourself to find out how to SSH into your iphone, I am using WinSCP, but you need wifi connection)
5. go to /private/var/mobile/Applications/C3C25D61-0DD8-4E90-8288-AC3E7A1A82CE/PAPAGO! Taiwan.app/Navi/Maps/TW (if you cant find the C3C25xxx folder, try open the rest one by one, im not sure whether the folder name will be the same or not)
6. Replace the Android X5 map with the files inside the folder, EXCEPT MapAniPOI.psu (I think this is the file where make the icon gone all wrong) & R51_prp.kuf (if you replace this file, you will NOT able to see the "选单"), and remember, please change the Octal permission to 0755 for each file you replace (26 files).
7. Unplug your iphone sync cable, give your iphone a kiss, say thanks to malfreemaps & me :finga:

Part 2
Courtesy of bro scaremonger:
mv MapAniPOI.psu MapAniPOI.psz
mv Papago.dbp papago.dbp
mv standard.mb6 Standard.mb6
These steps is for SSH users. But you can follow step 5,6,7 to know where to copy the files and which files to rename.

The Part 2 is for renaming the files.

Another potential problem is moving those files and renaming them. I am not sure how you are going to do it without SSH. But I am sure there are tools to do that wihout JB SSH.

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QUOTE(abubin @ Feb 12 2010, 02:45 PM)
You don't really need to j-break you phone to copy the files into your iphone. You can use third party software that allow copying files into your iphone. Or you can use dropbox. Drop the files into your dropbox from PC and then from iphone, you should be able to see the files. Sorry dropbox won' t can't download files.

As for copying the files, go to malfreemaps website and download latest file for M6 or android X5. It is an exe file. Run the file in you windows and it will ask you which format you want to install the maps. Choose Android X5 and the installer will copy the maps into your PC. After that, copy the files into your iphone.
These steps is for SSH users. But you can follow step 5,6,7 to know where to copy the files and which files to rename.

The Part 2 is for renaming the files.

Another potential problem is moving those files and renaming them. I am not sure how you are going to do it without SSH. But I am sure there are tools to do that wihout JB SSH.
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for those who cannot SSH. i guess you'll have to rename the files before you drop the files into the iPhone.
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hehe..yeah..such a simple solution. I am spoiled by ssh. Without ssh I am lost in *nix world... smile.gif
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hehe..yeah..such a simple solution. I am spoiled by ssh. Without ssh I am lost in *nix world... smile.gif
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I hear you bro! I also owns a JB 2G iPhone..... I know how good is SSH. But my iPhone 3Gs comes with firmware 3.1.3... hence can't JB it. Have to wait till DEV team get a solution to this... sad.gif

For the time being, what's the best way to access/change/download/modify/copy/paste file to my iPhone yeah? tongue.gif
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bascially where do u guys download the latest mfm maps from?
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Look for the thread on iphone and papago. The latest map just out yesterday.
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I am still unsure how to update the latest map without JB the phone.

Anyone can offer any help??

Been reading earlier posts and it seems only way for non JB phone is to wait for updates via itunes?

Downloaded papago pro and yup, using mfm map dated middle of last year doh.gif

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kc3832,

Maybe you can try ifunbox. No jb needed. I used this before to copy some files from my iphone 3G to my 3GS. But I have yet to update my papago maps to the latest mfs as the map is quite ok for me for klang valley area.

The link to ifunbox:
http://i-funbox.com/


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I am still unsure how to update the latest map without JB the phone.

Anyone can offer any help??

Been reading earlier posts and it seems only way for non JB phone is to wait for updates via itunes?

Downloaded papago pro and yup, using mfm map dated middle of last year  doh.gif
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You can try the app also, and please do give us any feedback that it works or not ok smile.gif

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QUOTE(gyver @ Feb 12 2010, 06:42 PM)
kc3832,

Maybe you can try  ifunbox. No jb needed. I used this before to copy some files from my iphone 3G to my 3GS. But I have yet to update my papago maps to the latest mfs as the map is quite ok for me for klang valley area.

The link to ifunbox:
http://i-funbox.com/


Added on February 12, 2010, 6:44 pm
You can try the app also, and please do give us any feedback that it works or not ok smile.gif
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I have try before trying to update the maps on a non-jb iphone 3gs by using
i) ifunbox, iphone explorer etc ... does not work as on a non-jb iphone, cannot access to the install papago directory to replace old maps with new maps. For non-jb iphone, you are only limit to certain user directory of your iphone.

ii) modifing the installation ipa, ie., replacing the old maps in the ipa with new ones from MFM. However, itunes will detect that the ipa is tampered with and the installation will not be successful.

Hope this help.
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QUOTE(safilo @ Feb 12 2010, 08:18 PM)
I have try before trying to update the maps on a non-jb iphone 3gs by using
i) ifunbox, iphone explorer etc ... does not work as on a non-jb iphone, cannot access to the install papago directory to replace old maps with new maps. For non-jb iphone, you are only limit to certain user directory of your iphone.

ii) modifing the installation ipa, ie., replacing the old maps in the ipa with new ones from MFM. However, itunes will detect that the ipa is tampered with and the installation will not be successful.

Hope this help.
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Thanks for the feedback bro, i am not going to JB my phone for now.. will wait for the next map updated via itunes

Took the papago pro for a spin and the navigation was ok but certain parts the processing was a bit slow but overall, it is more than i can ask for seeing that other GPS apps offer very outdated maps
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my dad just get an iphone from maxis, inside the iphone does not have anything which include games. my dad asked me to find GPS for him, so any sifu here know where to download gps from?
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Why are you opening up another thread??

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry31937061
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get papago for iphone then use malfreemaps papago version
they have the most updated maps
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papago now support iphone?.. i dont know this.. coz my friend have been complaining around bout no gps software is good enough like the garmin for his iphone..
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QUOTE(denzel88 @ Feb 17 2010, 05:02 PM)
Tom Tom is still the best, but sometimes its scary when it brings you to a narrow road or a dead end.
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Question: Have you used Papago?

How come a navigation apps will be good without a detailed map database? yawn.gif
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QUOTE(mmmbop @ Feb 19 2010, 02:26 PM)
Question: Have you used Papago?

How come a navigation apps will be good without a detailed map database? yawn.gif
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Yup, Tomtom has a better interface and it is easier to use compared to Papago.

In the world of software and programing, sometimes interface and user friendliness can be factors to increase users/customers. Eg. iPhone Interface
In addition, it is useless for a software to provide many functionality such as detailed maps if it does not provide a good Software Usability.
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As the tom tom vs papago dedate goes on, i was standing outside my home after dinner and switched on gps and papago and tried to lock onto my location as my map was showing a different location.

I actually stood outside for 20 minutes under a clear blue sky and i never got a satellite lock. Amazing. I think if i stood outside for another ten minutes i might not still get a lock and my battery would be running out of juice.

Is the Iphone integrated GPS really this poor?
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is papago worth buying??? there are bad reviews, for exp, not stable, wrong location,... 19.99...
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Bro,
Papago uses Malfreemaps... So, is a must to buy.. Why? Tomtom/Sygic and others.. their app is good.. but they don't have a complete malaysia map.. and they only cover 40% map of malaysia.. And most of it is outdated.. If you heard about malsingmaps or malfreemaps.. They r so far the MOST update/complete map cover for Malaysia & Singapore..

Share with you my experience of Papago for my CNY trip
1.) PG-KL-Afamosa Resort- Tamping-Melaka town

Man.. i relay on it for all the POI & address to visit friends/relative.. I i am so confidence driving in KL City.. Even to Afamosa resort.. From Afamosa resort.. I use it to search for KFC restaurant nearby.. As, u know la.. Afamosa resort's food is very very expensive.. To my suprise, it leads me to KFC at Tampin town.. It is about 4.5KM away.. Man, i never know this place & you see i can go directly to the Tamping KFC...

Spend a nite in Afamosa resort.. Then, navigate to Kota Afamosa.. And it leads me to there..

I love the the Junction view, even the POI along the road such as Petrol station is very accurate on the map... with Papago malfreemaps, i can now say our iphone is now a true navigation device. No need to buy the GPS device anymore..

And 1 last thing is.. You can update the latest map release from malfreemaps directly without going throught itune... No JB is needed too..

QUOTE(zxc999 @ Feb 20 2010, 11:38 PM)
is papago worth buying??? there are bad reviews, for exp, not stable, wrong location,... 19.99...
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hi guys. i just installed papago m6 and i would like to upgrade to the latest map.. i followed the instructions and i was stuck in the step where we have to 'change the octal permission to 0755.. how do i change it??

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I have papago pro but still not sure how to get junction view.

And can update map without JB? have been looking around and still not sure how to icon_question.gif
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Bro,
No doubt that tomtom and Sygic have better GUI..But, themost important fact is the map.Tomtom/Sygic is uses Tele Athlas map,and Tele Athlas map only cover 40% map of Malaysia only..ONLY malsingmap or malfeemaps have the complete coverage of Malaysia/Singapore.Why? Because these forum is local and contribute widely by Malaysian.They compile up all these piece and parcel..That is why u see Garmin uses malsingmap andpapago uses malfeemaps.. What is the point of having a F1 class's GUI but having a lousy map...Think about it..

QUOTE(denzel88 @ Feb 20 2010, 01:04 PM)
Yup, Tomtom has a better interface and it is easier to use compared to Papago.

In the world of software and programing, sometimes interface and user friendliness can be factors to increase users/customers. Eg. iPhone Interface
In addition, it is useless for a software to provide many functionality such as detailed maps if it does not provide a good Software Usability.
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QUOTE(liverpool red @ Feb 21 2010, 09:17 PM)
I have papago pro but still not sure how to get junction view.

And can update map without JB? have been looking around and still not sure how to  icon_question.gif
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the junction view will pop-up automatically when there are really a few junctions.
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QUOTE(david888 @ Feb 21 2010, 10:33 PM)
the junction view will pop-up automatically when there are really a few junctions.
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i see, nothing to do la with the split view option in the settings. I guess i have not used it in big city yet.

Thanks for the explanation. Much appreciated icon_rolleyes.gif

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how to update the latest map from malfreemaps for non jb iphone???
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sorry Bro, i remember i read somewhere in malfreemaps forum...But, i can't seem to find it now..Anyway, i update the map via SSH to iphone..And change the font as well


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how to update the latest map from malfreemaps for non jb iphone???
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QUOTE(sugen @ Feb 21 2010, 09:17 PM)
Bro,
    No doubt that tomtom and Sygic have better GUI..But, themost important fact is the map.Tomtom/Sygic is uses Tele Athlas map,and Tele Athlas map only cover 40% map of Malaysia only..ONLY malsingmap or malfeemaps have the complete coverage of Malaysia/Singapore.Why? Because these forum is local and contribute widely by Malaysian.They compile up all these piece and parcel..That is why u see Garmin uses malsingmap andpapago uses malfeemaps.. What is the point of having a F1 class's GUI but having a lousy map...Think about it..
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Ideally I want Sygic + Malfreemaps. Doesn't see that happening, if ever. Forget Tomtom, they won't abandon Teleatlas.

Lack of some roads can lead to longer distance in some areas. For example, Teleatlas map still lacks DUKE highway Sentul-Jalan Duta section. How this missing section will effect routing? Try routing from UIA Gombak to NSE RSA Sungai Buloh with Sygic. It will route you through MRR2 Kepong/Selayang, LDP and Penchala Link before finally going into Jalan Duta toll plaza (34km + stressful journey during peak hours). While with Papago, u will happily drive through DUKE highway straight to Jalan Duta toll plaza (21km). Or like my recent trip to Terengganu where I stopped at Temerloh, Sygic/Tomtom will show me in the middle of nowhere.
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QUOTE(denzel88 @ Feb 20 2010, 01:04 PM)
Yup, Tomtom has a better interface and it is easier to use compared to Papago.

In the world of software and programing, sometimes interface and user friendliness can be factors to increase users/customers. Eg. iPhone Interface
In addition, it is useless for a software to provide many functionality such as detailed maps if it does not provide a good Software Usability.
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Well I have no objection to the UI issue. Indeed it wasn't as nice as Tomtom or Garmin. It's a legacy of MapKing that's why. I will also not deny that the lagging problems of the UI.

But come to think of it as software bugs.. which can be resolve by the next update, well pending to the developer's effort obviously. Meaning to say, it's a relatively minor issue. Afterall, when navigating you're not going to keeps on touching the screen. Once routing, the apps will do its job.

The big issue here is the purpose of that apps itself. If you buy an apps to search for nearby atm location but the apps can't find any, then what good that will be?

What I'm pointing out here, can you live with a navigation apps that can't bring you to the destination that you want?

Well I'm not saying going to KLCC, that's an obvious choice.

How about these kampung roads/small town or even newly developed taman. For example, can you find Jalan Vista Emas 3, Bandar Baru Bangi by using TomTom?

I'm surprised if you are ever find it by using TomTom.

The Papago M6 is not perfect, but it's the application that serve its purpose satisfactorily for now.


Added on February 22, 2010, 2:20 pm
QUOTE(liverpool red @ Feb 20 2010, 07:51 PM)
As the tom tom vs papago dedate goes on, i was standing outside my home after dinner and switched on gps and papago and tried to lock onto my location as my map was showing a different location.

I actually stood outside for 20 minutes under a clear blue sky and i never got a satellite lock. Amazing. I think if i stood outside for another ten minutes i might not still get a lock and my battery would be running out of juice.

Is the Iphone integrated GPS really this poor?
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The accuracy of a navigation apps depends on both software and hardware..Means the map database and the GPS receiver. The GPS receiver issue is an ongoing debate. Some did said that the iPhone's receiver are not good enough compared to its competitors. Competitors here refer to other GPS phone, not other PND.

But we have to ponder why TomTom produce a GPS kit for iPhone equipped with a GPS receiver? Yup, that indeed increase the GPS signal but most probably not necessary.

My other GPS phone works well even with tinted car screen.


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QUOTE(sugen @ Feb 21 2010, 06:07 PM)
with Papago malfreemaps, i can now say our iphone is now a true navigation device. No need to buy the GPS device anymore..

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I beg to differ on this part.

A truly dedicated PND have bigger receiver, thus more accurate. Plus, it does have that extra function that make it more special compared to GPS phone.

For example, previously JV is only available in PND though we know now that Papago support it. AFAIK, only papago for the time being, GMXT still has no support for this function.

TTS is currently supported only by PND though I do heard that Taiwan's papago has TTS function which can say the names of the road you shoul be taking.

LA - Lane assist also not available for phones. Don't be mistaken this with JV.

Elevated highway also for PND.

Enough to say, there's a long way to go before a dedicated PND can be laid to rest.

But I must say that I'm satisfied with my current GPS phone though.

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Can some one link me to step by step on how to update map using the downloaded one from malfreemaps.com? Cause I try downloading, and replacing the map folder content with the downloaded map..and the map works, but when I try to search road or POI, nothing came up in the search.

Please help?
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the junction view will pop-up automatically when there are really a few junctions.
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tha's true, i am currently using papago! and you will have to try to believe it haha...
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Used papago this morning and I loved the junction view function. Brilliant. I'm now convinced buying the pro was a good decision.
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btw guys how ur signal tho? at penang?

because i always get two bar from sygic....

and inside car driving seems like the signal cannot catch up i driving sleep.gif"

and always the arrow not follow the road haha like im flying from sky like that
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QUOTE(liverpool red @ Feb 24 2010, 12:31 PM)
Used papago this morning and I loved the junction view function. Brilliant. I'm now convinced buying the pro was a good decision.
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i owned papago for android before, like it. now using iphone also using the papago Pro version. too used to it already.
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QUOTE(bizzy @ Feb 24 2010, 01:38 PM)
btw guys how ur signal tho? at penang?

because i always get two bar from sygic....

and inside car driving seems like the signal cannot catch up i driving sleep.gif"

and always the arrow not follow the road haha like im flying from sky like that
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signal was ok but got some lag lah... probably around two seconds or so, i used it from serdang rest area to jalan kuchai lama... was accurate all the way and signal was good BUT...

here's my observation, when the phone heats up, charging stops and hence i wont recommend usage of papago on our iphones for an extended period of time, one is the phone will be bloody hot and battery will run out as charging will stop when it gets hot.

anyone got any ideas to solve this? hold the phone in one hand against the air-cond vent? hahaha, might work but dangerous while driving
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good signal which means how many bar u get?

well im not sure papago do show or not.

cuz i know tomtom never mantion how much good connection you have just like only good poor . since good is means 100% connection or ?

yesterday i try to fool around tomtom and sygic omg... i felt like i cannot depend at them at all but sygic is better den tomtom tho


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True, I guess Papago does not show signal bar unless I'm wrong. But signal lock was fast for me and never had problem with lost signal even driving under flyovers.

Still trying to figure out a way to solve this overheating charging problem.
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try to set ur brightless to the lowers.

and off ur wifi and everything u can.


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QUOTE(bizzy @ Feb 24 2010, 06:08 PM)
try to set ur brightless to the lowers.

and off ur wifi and everything u can.
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Hahaha, i did off all wifi, bluetooth, 3G and set brightness as lowest as possible. If off everything else, can off the phone already hahaha tongue.gif
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hi guys. i've a problem here.

i'm using papago! for iphone currently and the prob is, it can't detect my current location. the device voice kept on saying locating for satellite or something. i tried driving from shah alam to damansara still it can't detect my location. any1 having the same prob?
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is there a way to enter coordinates in the Papago?
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QUOTE(SHOfrE3zE @ Feb 25 2010, 12:53 PM)
hi guys. i've a problem here.

i'm using papago! for iphone currently and the prob is, it can't detect my current location. the device voice kept on saying locating for satellite or something. i tried driving from shah alam to damansara still it can't detect my location. any1 having the same prob?
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Try reinstalling the Papago through itunes.. make sure ur phone is not covered with some thick casing as it will affect the connectivity to the satellite !
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how frequent the developer update the map for papago? every month? i using a non-jb iphone. so cannot update map myself.
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newbie here.

what is the recommend GPS software?

i need SG and Malaysia Maps. Where Can Download?
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QUOTE(teckhooi @ Feb 26 2010, 05:27 PM)
newbie here.

what is the recommend GPS software?

i need SG and Malaysia Maps. Where Can Download?
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yo bro, welcome to the iphone club

i would recommend papago pro M6.. uses malfreemaps, available for purchase via itunes

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Hi bro & expert,

Im about to get Papago M6 for my iphone 3G.

Will papago m6 works without 3G and EDGE, bc i turn off both as i didn sign for the maxis data plan.

Please advice.

Thanks
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QUOTE(Dannyoski @ Feb 26 2010, 07:55 PM)
Hi bro & expert,

Im about to get Papago M6 for my iphone 3G.

Will papago m6 works without 3G and EDGE, bc i turn off both as i didn sign for the maxis data plan.

Please advice.

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What if there are no signal? Will it use 3G or edge?

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QUOTE(monked @ Feb 26 2010, 08:32 PM)
What if there are no signal? Will it use 3G or edge?
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eventually gps doesn't use 3g or edge network...but I think it use the network coverage to connect with the satelite...this is because..when I connect to gps when in airplane mode I can't do it..with network no problem..and when my line is barred I can connect to gps...but no data usage allowed by maxis...
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Guys papago just updated software to include the latest february 2010 malfreemaps....GREAT!!!!
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Yes! Been waiting for this update, thanks for the notice zad

Just in time for my work trip to Penang next week thumbup.gif
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excuse me but, how do u add the new papago! update to my current M6? i've downloaded the update from the official site to my pc but i'm figuring how to update it to my iphone. tq
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QUOTE(SHOfrE3zE @ Feb 27 2010, 01:57 PM)
excuse me but, how do u add the new papago! update to my current M6? i've downloaded the update from the official site to my pc but i'm figuring how to update it to my iphone. tq
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Downloaded and the update captured when synced itunes to iphone

Latest malfreemaps dated 3rd Feb 2010, Papago version M6.2 all good thumbup.gif

If they provide free updates every three or four months i am a contented already

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Now i can safely say that papago has the most updated map in all gps software for iphone...YESSSS!!!!
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how Tomtom can be the best where it uses Tele Atlas digital maps.. And if you check on Tele website, it stated that the map only cover 40% of Malaysia map.. And this mat saleh Co.. map is not up to date. They rely on our Gov official map.. U know la.. ONLY malfreemaps or malsingmaps have the most complete map coverage for Malaysia & Singapore.. No others !!

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Downloading my Papago V6.2... way to go papago... hope next update will have UI improvement.... smile.gif
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QUOTE(zad78 @ Feb 27 2010, 11:34 AM)
Guys papago just updated software to include the latest february 2010 malfreemaps....GREAT!!!!
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Excellent! Now it makes me feel better even though I paid the full $29.99 for it !! (3 days before the price dropped to $19.99)

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Yeaa..guys how big tha update maps?.bcoz until now my downloading still no bar progress,i start download last 2 hours...

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Yeaa..guys how big tha update maps?.bcoz until now my downloading still no bar progress,i start download last 2 hours...
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well it is around 179 mB....so depends on your speed bro
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well it is around 179 mB....so depends on your speed bro
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P1 got problem..now back 2 normal..yeahh.
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I must say that the new update at least solved part of the lagging screen problem.

Much responsive now compared to previous version. This exactly like I said earlier. software bugs can be solved. map data? you figure out!

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ya but papago doesnt give the gps reading rite?

is kinda not so user frendly ...

i still prefer garmin...sigh too bad sad.gif
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the latest update for papago is just map update or there's software/bug fixes?
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the latest update for papago is just map update or there's software/bug fixes?
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there some map update and bug fixes...
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QUOTE(qqmeng @ Mar 3 2010, 05:25 PM)
ya but papago doesnt give the gps reading rite?

is kinda not so user frendly ...

i still prefer garmin...sigh too bad sad.gif
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You meant GPS coordinate?

Give them time la..This a new apps for iphone. map update is much important than coordinate search.

Rarely people find a place by using coordinate. Even if they are hardcore mappers they won't use iphone in the first place.

Afterall my Papago X5 does have coordinate displayed with coordinate search as well.

I guess it's just a matter of time before they update M6 with new features.

Oh BTW..my vote for Best GPS actually goes to other before Papago released. If only I can re-vote it's clear Papago has mine

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Gonna give this papago a try then since it's more recommended then the TomTom. TomTom certainly takes a very long time to load.
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so which one is better either tomtom or papago?i need the best gps.because this gps's size very big.thank you
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papago is the best with large number of POI and junction view which does not support for Garmin XT in WM/Symbian.
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PAPAGO for sure. Too many places aren't up to date in Tom Tom.

Even Tropicana City Mall,PJ which has been up for almost a year now isn't in Tom Tom..

Papago has almost every road around listed in, you'd be really surprised.
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Papago got junction view....really useful when in major highway....
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post Mar 4 2010, 09:38 PM

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how long does iphone need to get satelite coordination on papago? i tried for 5-10minutes and havent get a lock down.

i just bought papago pro.
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QUOTE(Da_Shiang @ Mar 4 2010, 09:38 PM)
how long does iphone need to get satelite coordination on papago? i tried for 5-10minutes and havent get a lock down.

i just bought papago pro.
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it take 5-10secs for me most of the time.

unless i'm in a building or a tunnel, then i wont be able to get the GPS signal
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try reinstalling the app if it still cant detect ur location..
it happened to me too last time
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QUOTE(loowy @ Mar 4 2010, 09:43 PM)
try reinstalling the app if it still cant detect ur location..
it happened to me too last time
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how to reinstall the app?
sorry for the asking this. but i really dont know
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post Mar 4 2010, 09:53 PM

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just resync it ..
delete it from ur phone and sync it again with itunes
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it is still trying to lock down.. :S
firmware3.1.3 can use it right?
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have u resynced it ?
ure trying it indoor or outdoor..
bear in mind, u need to be at outdoor for better detection
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post Mar 5 2010, 05:37 AM

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QUOTE(loowy @ Mar 4 2010, 10:08 PM)
have u resynced it ?
ure trying it indoor or outdoor..
bear in mind, u need to be at outdoor for better detection
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haha... can work after restart my iphone
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post Mar 5 2010, 09:59 AM

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The problem with satellite lock by many users baffled me. Could it be because of unit specific, lower RAM after the installation or JB related?

Because ever since I'm using Papago there's no problem at all. about 5 secs I guess. Even in my 3-storeys office building have no problem with locking as well. at most 10-15secs to lock. bear in mind I'm on top floor though
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whats the best option for the route settings? the other day i realised PAPAGO asked me to use a road much further and also directed me to go below the fly-over instead of going over the fly-over.
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another thing, the voice from papago kinda soft. dont you all think so?

btw, is it possible to change the font? pretty ugly with the default
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QUOTE(Da_Shiang @ Mar 5 2010, 01:34 PM)
another thing, the voice from papago kinda soft. dont you all think so?

btw, is it possible to change the font? pretty ugly with the default
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thats is the default....normal...china one...they make it as cheap they could...
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I'm currently in Sarawak and i tested the map.. not very updated and i even tested with my usual route to work.. it gave me a longer one.. quite disappointed.. but not sure with peninsular..


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i intalled the papago

but seems not functioning...

izzt need to activiate the GPS?

pls advice

now i at SG. but maps show Sg.
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post Mar 7 2010, 10:38 AM

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hi, i just wan to ask that is it iphone 2g cant install gps? i have installed tomtom and papago, but it cant detect me current location, is it bcox inside dun have build in gps receiver, can i buy external gps receiver??? snyone know where to get it? how much is it? if too expensive, i would like to upgrade to iphone 3g d,,,,
thanks....

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QUOTE(teckhooi @ Mar 7 2010, 09:40 AM)
i intalled the papago

but seems not functioning...

izzt need to activiate the GPS?

pls advice

now i at SG. but maps show Sg.
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Ur in sg of coz show map in sg la doh.gif
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post Mar 7 2010, 11:08 AM

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Sorry. Show In KL
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QUOTE(teckhooi @ Mar 7 2010, 11:08 AM)
Sorry. Show In KL
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coz not yet detect satellite. after detection then area will change
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QUOTE(jian321 @ Mar 7 2010, 10:38 AM)
hi, i just wan to ask that is it iphone 2g cant install gps? i have installed tomtom and papago, but it cant detect me current location, is it bcox inside dun have build in gps receiver, can i buy external gps receiver??? snyone know where to get it? how much is it? if too expensive, i would like to upgrade to iphone 3g d,,,,
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i think this might help ~
iPhone 2G GPS
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QUOTE(jingyong @ Mar 5 2010, 05:24 PM)
I'm currently in Sarawak and i tested the map.. not very updated and i even tested with my usual route to work.. it gave me a longer one.. quite disappointed.. but not sure with peninsular..
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Well, I guess it's safe to say Peninsular mappers are more active or more in numbers. Have your say by becoming a mappers in your own area and submit to MfM site.
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QUOTE(mmmbop @ Mar 8 2010, 09:50 AM)
Well, I guess it's safe to say Peninsular mappers are more active or more in numbers. Have your say by becoming a mappers in your own area and submit to MfM site.
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comparing sygic and ppg....for places like sabah & saraak ppg is more updated..where they have the updated for small towns and definately the big ones...i tried my ppg in sabah...not bad certain unknown town is also been updated..they have the poi..the route..
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QUOTE(unknowmaster @ Mar 8 2010, 03:01 AM)
coz not yet detect satellite. after detection then area will change
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it take how long to detect.

i am using back cover case...

due to that problem?
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QUOTE(teckhooi @ Mar 8 2010, 10:35 AM)
it take how long to detect.

i am using back cover case...

due to that problem?
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u need to be under the sky for the gps to detect, inside building cannot sweat.gif
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Get yourself a Garmin and don't waste any money on iPhone GPS apps. It is slow to acquire a satellite and recalculating. The worse part is, none of the apps has a good Malaysia map.

Now, if the malsing guys put up an iPhone GPS apps with their maps, I will buy it.
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Tomtom is working fine for me
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Just bought PapaGo M6 Singapore + Malaysia edition. Very good updated map from malfreemaps. I tried it in Penang and Kedah recently and all the POIs are spot on, even the speed camera locations. GPS lock is quick and hassle-free. Oh, getting an in-car charger is mandatory. It drains power really fast. Overall, well worth it.
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QUOTE(teckhooi @ Mar 8 2010, 10:35 AM)
it take how long to detect.

i am using back cover case...

due to that problem?
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I'm using a silicon case but never had any problem at all. At most 10 seconds to lock


Added on March 8, 2010, 2:11 pm
QUOTE(CallMeMonkey @ Mar 8 2010, 10:41 AM)
u need to be under the sky for the gps to detect, inside building cannot  sweat.gif
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Not really. Mine works fine even in a building. And this is a 3-storey building I'm talking mind you. A-GPS will come in handy


Added on March 8, 2010, 2:14 pm
QUOTE(ZhaoYun @ Mar 8 2010, 10:49 AM)
Get yourself a Garmin and don't waste any money on iPhone GPS apps. It is slow to acquire a satellite and recalculating. The worse part is, none of the apps has a good Malaysia map.

Now, if the malsing guys put up an iPhone GPS apps with their maps, I will buy it.
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Nobody comparing an apple (obviously!) to an orange for god sake. But this word of yours is from someone who have bought Papago or just your mere assumption? yawn.gif

If you have bought it, then how much better is msm compared to mfm?

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QUOTE(jojo104 @ Mar 8 2010, 12:44 PM)
Just bought PapaGo M6 Singapore + Malaysia edition. Very good updated map from malfreemaps. I tried it in Penang and Kedah recently and all the POIs are spot on, even the speed camera locations. GPS lock is quick and hassle-free. Oh, getting an in-car charger is mandatory. It drains power really fast. Overall, well worth it.
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i tried on my hometown which is bintulu, Sarawak. it is more than enough and i don't think i need to use gps on my hometown tough lol tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ZhaoYun @ Mar 8 2010, 10:49 AM)
Get yourself a Garmin and don't waste any money on iPhone GPS apps. It is slow to acquire a satellite and recalculating. The worse part is, none of the apps has a good Malaysia map.

Now, if the malsing guys put up an iPhone GPS apps with their maps, I will buy it.
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MSM is a joke....

MFM maps are so much better and the best part is, it's free.
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Hey guys, my Papago work . Now I want to know how install latest map. Lot subsection in forum, dun know go which. Sifu, help
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if u want to use the SSH style use this (only JB iphone)
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


if u use .ipa style use this
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


i recommend using the .ipa style
credit to the person who wrote that tutorial

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Cool ! azim61,

i bought the papago M6 pro and use it without any issue at penang.

But couldnt find any 3D building at all althought i set the view to 3D.

my maps date is 100203 means 03 Feb 2010. and i saw MFM android X5 latest maps is 100304. Izzit once updated the latest maps , i will get the 3D building view and the junction view?

BTW,
for SSH transfer, should i rename those 3 files 1st then only replace the file in iphone or replace all file 1st(except MapAnilPOI.psu and R51_prp.kuf ) then only rename?)

Thanks
Danny

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QUOTE(azim61 @ Mar 8 2010, 10:40 PM)
if u want to use the SSH style use this (only JB iphone)
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


if u use .ipa style use this
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


i recommend using the .ipa style
credit to the person who wrote that tutorial
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you don't like the ssh way that i share? sad.gif

QUOTE(Dannyoski @ Mar 10 2010, 03:31 PM)
Cool ! azim61,

i bought the papago M6 pro and use it without any issue at penang.

But couldnt find any 3D building at all althought i set the view to 3D.

my maps date is 100203 means 03 Feb 2010. and i saw MFM android X5 latest maps is 100304. Izzit once updated the latest maps , i will get the 3D building view and the junction view?

BTW,
for SSH transfer, should i rename those 3 files 1st then only replace the file in iphone or replace all file 1st(except MapAnilPOI.psu and R51_prp.kuf ) then only rename?)

Thanks
Danny
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the 3D building and junction view depends on the map creators. in kl/pj there's quite a few junction view and 3d building view. so we just have to wait for MFM and see how much of these they put into the map.

as to your question on whether to rename before replacing or rename after transferring. both ways will work fine. the ultimate goal is to have the correct file name.

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QUOTE(Dannyoski @ Mar 10 2010, 03:31 PM)
Cool ! azim61,

i bought the papago M6 pro and use it without any issue at penang.

But couldnt find any 3D building at all althought i set the view to 3D.

my maps date is 100203 means 03 Feb 2010. and i saw MFM android X5 latest maps is 100304. Izzit once updated the latest maps , i will get the 3D building view and the junction view?

BTW,
for SSH transfer, should i rename those 3 files 1st then only replace the file in iphone or replace all file 1st(except MapAnilPOI.psu and R51_prp.kuf ) then only rename?)

Thanks
Danny
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I believe most of the 3D buildings are in Klang Valley area. And I'm bot sure whether MfM provide 3D building as well. So it's up to Maction themself to provide the 3D building.

Btw I think the feature is mainly for fanfare since it does not really help in navigation like JV function. All of the 3D building are famous landmarks so there's not really of much help
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Thanks red-queen and mmmbop,

i update to the latest maps 100304 just now and its working ! but still no 3D building. I try stimulate route to KL and do see lots of JV which is pretty useful to me. Perhaps i need to go KL only can enjoy the 3D building feature for now.


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QUOTE(Dannyoski @ Mar 10 2010, 03:31 PM)
Cool ! azim61,

i bought the papago M6 pro and use it without any issue at penang.

But couldnt find any 3D building at all althought i set the view to 3D.

my maps date is 100203 means 03 Feb 2010. and i saw MFM android X5 latest maps is 100304. Izzit once updated the latest maps , i will get the 3D building view and the junction view?

BTW,
for SSH transfer, should i rename those 3 files 1st then only replace the file in iphone or replace all file 1st(except MapAnilPOI.psu and R51_prp.kuf ) then only rename?)

Thanks
Danny
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congratz update to latest map bro
for me i usually rename those 3 files first

QUOTE(red-queen @ Mar 10 2010, 04:53 PM)
you don't like the ssh way that i share? sad.gif
the 3D building and junction view depends on the map creators. in kl/pj there's quite a few junction view and 3d building view. so we just have to wait for MFM and see how much of these they put into the map.

as to your question on whether to rename before replacing or rename after transferring. both ways will work fine. the ultimate goal is to have the correct file name.
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no la bro
it just me that i like .ipa style better
it depends
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i download the update map file.

but it didn't show the ipa file
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.ipa iphone apps format.

the map file need to be installed first, then copy paste the related files in navi folder
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does anyone here used any of the GPS software and result in a high usage of data? for 3g n edge

please share =)
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i think google map still the best thou...XD use tomtom b4....some address nt even in thr yet...ZZZ
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hey guys
do you face this prob when using papago?
when im navi, the satellite lock very fast but after around 2 minutes
the arrow will jump outside of the road for awhile and them jump back on the road then search for satellite (after that unable to detect sat, have to restart the app)
usually this happen when speeding

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QUOTE(iMacGuyver @ Mar 14 2010, 07:55 PM)
i think google map still the best thou...XD use tomtom b4....some address nt even in thr yet...ZZZ
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Have you try Garmin or Papago before? Try it and let us know.


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QUOTE(azim61 @ Mar 14 2010, 10:59 PM)
hey guys
do you face this prob when using papago?
when im navi, the satellite lock very fast but after around 2 minutes
the arrow will jump outside of the road for awhile and them jump back on the road then search for satellite (after that unable to detect sat, have to restart the app)
usually this happen when speeding
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At places where satellite signal is weak, such inaccuracy do happens. Even other gps phone with other software as well. Though I do notice, iphone GPS is more frequent in such problem.

That being said, it happens only for a second or two but that will resume back on routing and I have never ever need to restart the app

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QUOTE(mmmbop @ Mar 15 2010, 08:50 AM)
Have you try Garmin or Papago before? Try it and let us know.


Added on March 15, 2010, 8:54 am

At places where satellite signal is weak, such inaccuracy do happens. Even other gps phone with other software as well. Though I do notice, iphone GPS is more frequent in such problem.

That being said, it happens only for a second or two but that will resume back on routing and I have never ever need to restart the app
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QUOTE(azim61 @ Mar 11 2010, 12:47 AM)
congratz update to latest map bro
for me i usually rename those 3 files first
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it just me that i like .ipa style better
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QUOTE(iMacGuyver @ Mar 14 2010, 07:55 PM)
i think google map still the best thou...XD use tomtom b4....some address nt even in thr yet...ZZZ
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google map is not a turn by turn GPS navigation software. you can't compare it to tomtom, papago etc.

anyways, tom tom's map for malaysia is shite!

you shud try papago with MFM maps and you'll be amazed.
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just install papago with lastest mfm map....hopefully it works!!!!

trying it out at kedah tongue.gif


Added on March 17, 2010, 9:47 pmyea....the maps works for papago!

thanks to those that contribute here biggrin.gif

btw, it seems take quite long for the gps to locate me, around 3 to 5 minutes.....

and its laggy too, maybe coz i am using 3g, not 3gs

but the POI is really amazing, even for a small town like where i am!

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My only qualm about papago is still cannot insert coordinates and cannot control the navigation audio volume.. hope the designers will do something about this in their next update
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QUOTE(azim61 @ Mar 8 2010, 10:40 PM)
if u want to use the SSH style use this (only JB iphone)
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


I still cant get to locate d gps thou i folo all d steps.. currently using 3gs 32gb firmware 3.1.2 jb version .... hmmm. Pls help... have been repeat dose steps several times ed... (install, del, install del... ) even thou i restart d phone...

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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ Mar 17 2010, 07:37 PM)
just install papago with lastest mfm map....hopefully it works!!!!

trying it out at kedah tongue.gif


Added on March 17, 2010, 9:47 pmyea....the maps works for papago!

thanks to those that contribute here biggrin.gif

btw, it seems take quite long for the gps to locate me, around 3 to 5 minutes.....

and its laggy too, maybe coz i am using 3g, not 3gs

but the POI is really amazing, even for a small town like where i am!
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My dear friend, even with a 3GS and the latest firmware, PAPAGO is still very leggy and having all the same problems that you're having.

My advice to all of you, if you need a GPS that really works as one, get a Garmin. Else, just use it as a value-added apps to your phone or to show it off to your friends. The only good things about PAPAGO is its POI, the price and the ability to do street's name search. It can never replace a real GPS device.
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True enough, the GPS in iphone can't be used for long as when it gets hot, iphone will automatically stop charging in order to cool down, so a piece of advice to papago users, always ensure yr iphone is fully charged and only start using when u really need it.

A stand alone Garmin device is of coz anytime more reliable like what kc3832 said. But the papago is good to have for short distances and not bad as a back up in the event of emergencies.
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QUOTE(wudever @ Mar 19 2010, 09:04 PM)
I still cant get to locate d gps thou i folo all d steps.. currently using 3gs 32gb firmware 3.1.2 jb version .... hmmm. Pls help... have been repeat dose steps several times ed... (install, del, install del... ) even thou i restart d phone...
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where did you test it? do you have location services turned on?
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QUOTE(wudever @ Mar 19 2010, 09:04 PM)
I still cant get to locate d gps thou i folo all d steps.. currently using 3gs 32gb firmware 3.1.2 jb version .... hmmm. Pls help... have been repeat dose steps several times ed... (install, del, install del... ) even thou i restart d phone...
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which apps is it..???are you in a open area...??is your location service on?? try opening maps (google)..click the my position...se whether it works or not.???
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QUOTE(red-queen @ Mar 20 2010, 03:15 AM)
where did you test it? do you have location services turned on?
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QUOTE(yuvanesh @ Mar 20 2010, 10:39 AM)
which apps is it..???are you in a open area...??is your location service on?? try opening maps (google)..click the my position...se whether it works or not.???
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Papagos M6 Pro for SG n MY lo.. test in a WIDE WIDE WIDE area.. location service on.. google maps function properly...


Added on March 21, 2010, 2:12 pm1 thing i want to ask... Since MapAniPOI.psu must not be replace into the MLM folder. Den.. why we need to rename MapAniPOI.psu -> MapAniPOI.psz??

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The Application PPG!MYSGPRO was not installed on the iPhone because its resources have been modified <-- getting this error. what's the problem?
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I personally prefer TomTom and Sygic.
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for those who doesnt know how to update map of Papago M6
here is a video i made
click HD for clearer picture
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCRb0laqQkw

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QUOTE(azim61 @ Mar 21 2010, 04:57 PM)
for those who doesnt know how to update map of Papago M6
here is a video i made
click HD for clearer picture
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCRb0laqQkw
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oo..thanks for vid...
so need to choose the lesser polygon one when setup the mfm map?
the full color polygon cannot work?
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QUOTE(kc3832 @ Mar 19 2010, 10:08 PM)
My dear friend, even with a 3GS and the latest firmware, PAPAGO is still very leggy and having all the same problems that you're having.

My advice to all of you, if you need a GPS that really works as one, get a Garmin. Else, just use it as a value-added apps to your phone or to show it off to your friends. The only good things about PAPAGO is its POI, the price and the ability to do street's name search. It can never replace a real GPS device.
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Frankly speaking, I never had the intention to buy a stand-alone GPS all this while. Been using and still using GMXT, MapKing 2007, Papago X5 and now Papago M6 I've been to all unfamiliar places with the help of all this software. And I can say 99.9% satisfied in finding all places accurately.

Lagging for 1-2 seconds it is, battery draining yes, but I still can't find an excuse to buy a dedicated PNA. And I hope I don't have to. Buying another device for RM500-1500 so it can sit idle in my car most of the time and help me out occasionally just don't make the cut. Afterall, the lagginess is really a minor problem. With JV function or even the general next turn arrow, rarely we are going to miss the next turn or junction. The battery drain is also a minor issue, in-car charger will solve that one.

This all-in-one basket phone still works best for me.


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QUOTE(wudever @ Mar 21 2010, 12:18 PM)
Papagos M6 Pro for SG n MY lo.. test in a WIDE WIDE WIDE area.. location service on.. google maps function properly...


Added on March 21, 2010, 2:12 pm1 thing i want to ask... Since MapAniPOI.psu must not be replace into the MLM folder. Den.. why we need to rename MapAniPOI.psu -> MapAniPOI.psz??
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Why so many people having problem with Papago installation and satellite lock? Is it because of the jailbreaking or wrong method of map update?

Satellite lock has never been a problem with my phone.

check again where you get the map file. the .psu is for android version.

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Using papago and sygic. Cannot get gps signal. Any solution? jb phone
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QUOTE(sanzo86 @ Mar 24 2010, 11:19 AM)
Using papago  and sygic. Cannot get gps signal. Any solution? jb phone
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well bro..first make sure your location is on...get to a open area..then try using the gps...if still cant try reinstalling the app..if you had off edge try on it then connect to the gps...make sure you are using the legal app... thumbup.gif
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well..totom..just need to update the poi...i would say the poi are better in ppg..but not the interface...it pretty cheap interface..
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when I do a POI or road search for Sabah, it will crash the Papago M6 app.
do you guys experience similar problem? or is it just me? rclxub.gif

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Just bought papago.. brought it for a test run, very fast satellite lock down! i tried it two times and both times it got signal almost instantly.. and manage to bring me to my destination smile.gif

only problem (and weakness) so far compare to my old n82 garmin gps is sometimes when you do turning the car fly out of the road >.< anyone else have this problem?
though i'm quite happy with this app in iphone now.. last time my bro don't even have any good gps application on the iphone, my garmin is god smile.gif

now if garmin enters iphone market then it will be perfect =)
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new papago is out, but the problem is, when i check for available download in itunes, it doesnt give me anything. i aint downloading 170+ mb over the phone sad.gif
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QUOTE(angelflames @ Mar 25 2010, 09:01 AM)
new papago is out, but the problem is, when i check for available download in itunes, it doesnt give me anything. i aint downloading 170+ mb over the phone sad.gif
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Ah you beat me to it. Yup Papago 6.3 is released. You downloaded 170MB through wifi? Though it can be done, it still way slower than using ur PC.

Update on 6.3: (sorry no new map blush.gif )

1) start point option
2) better performance (according to maction, I've yet to try)
3) ability to call POI's phone no. (direct from the apps I guess? still downloading..)


Comment:

I have open the app and it seems the UI lagginess is back! vmad.gif

They have change to colorful icons in the menu which yes easy on the eye, but it's very laggy, just like 6.1

The way the icon respond to touch also has changed a bit but nothing to boast of.

As stated in the update, the start point option will pop up once you choose a POI and touch the 'Go!' button

The other two so-called update I'm not very sure as I've yet to try on routing.

Other new thing includes:

1) Postcode option (though I can't find any POI using this function. I believe native mfm mapset do have this ability though)
2) Type error in Function tab for "sorting methed" has been corrected to what it supposed to be.

All in all, I still not satisfied with the UI lagginess issue. This is capacitive for God's sake!

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cool, this is the first time i ever saw any updates for an application smile.gif

I have one question, when typing in the search box for POI in Papago, what are those random keys appearing in the middle of the screen? they don't seem to do anything?
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QUOTE(iori57 @ Mar 25 2010, 03:48 PM)
cool, this is the first time i ever saw any updates for an application smile.gif

I have one question, when typing in the search box for POI in Papago, what are those random keys appearing in the middle of the screen? they don't seem to do anything?
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they do, you can press them and it will insert it like your keyboard.
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QUOTE(iori57 @ Mar 25 2010, 03:48 PM)
cool, this is the first time i ever saw any updates for an application smile.gif

I have one question, when typing in the search box for POI in Papago, what are those random keys appearing in the middle of the screen? they don't seem to do anything?
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they also tell you the next available letter to press to get a search result.
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Aiseh, i thought got new map update.. so means version 6.3 is not worth to download?
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sygic interface is much better and also the poi. Not really familiar with tomtom even though heard of it being one of the good gps app for iphone. Any idea if garmin available for iphone?
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There's another navigation app around. Papago. The roads in Malaysia is more updated comparing to TomTom.
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Just updated papago m6.3, got updated map la, new update has 4th march 2010 malfreemaps
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QUOTE(z3alousn3ss @ Mar 25 2010, 03:59 PM)
they also tell you the next available letter to press to get a search result.
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QUOTE(liverpool red @ Mar 25 2010, 09:27 PM)
Just updated papago m6.3, got updated map la, new update has 4th march 2010 malfreemaps
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cool man nice to know that they do update the map smile.gif

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im not sure after the recent update..ppg is horrible...there are too much of lag...i think there is bug in that...

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Just tried it this morning on my way to work, personally the new update is ok for me, the slight lag is not really an issue and the navigation works fine. Signal lock was within 5 seconds under a very cloudy sky.

As whether got bug or not, i m not sure but the fellas at maction will do something about it if there is. Meanwhile, ppg is ok for me.
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QUOTE(liverpool red @ Mar 26 2010, 09:20 AM)
Just tried it this morning on my way to work, personally the new update is ok for me, the slight lag is not really an issue and the navigation works fine. Signal lock was within 5 seconds under a very cloudy sky.

As whether got bug or not, i m not sure but the fellas at maction will do something about it if there is. Meanwhile, ppg is ok for me.
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Works well enough for me too. Updated yesterday and it does have a new 100304 MFM map. YNWA.
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use ppg need to pay gprs charge?
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QUOTE(liverpool red @ Mar 25 2010, 09:27 PM)
Just updated papago m6.3, got updated map la, new update has 4th march 2010 malfreemaps
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Yup missed on that one. since the official statement says nothing about map update.


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QUOTE(liverpool red @ Mar 26 2010, 09:20 AM)
Just tried it this morning on my way to work, personally the new update is ok for me, the slight lag is not really an issue and the navigation works fine. Signal lock was within 5 seconds under a very cloudy sky.

As whether got bug or not, i m not sure but the fellas at maction will do something about it if there is. Meanwhile, ppg is ok for me.
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Navigation wise, it works ever since 6.1 is released. But considering this is the third release, one could only wonder why they still have trouble with UI lagginess. If this is on resistive screen I won't have any criticism. But on a capacitive screen?

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i'm currently using sygic mobile maps southeast asia 8.0.1 on iphone 3g and i must say the interface is really clean and the POI is sufficient enough.loving it.smile.gif
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Just choose between...
Cheap & MOST updated map (PPG)

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very good Interface (tomtom, sygic)

.. if Sygic/tomtom use mfm, I sure purchase one of them xD
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QUOTE(xpresside @ Mar 21 2010, 06:48 PM)
oo..thanks for vid...
so need to choose the lesser polygon one when setup the mfm map?
the full color polygon cannot work?
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if u use full color polygon also can
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Hi. I have a few questions regarding GPS apps on Iphone 3GS.

1. When GPS is navigating, when a call comes in, can I pick up the call, and when hang up resume back to the GPS navigation?

2.When the GPS app is on, can i go and make a phone call and back to the app?

3. If an sms comes in when GPS is navigating, can i goto check the sms and come back to continue the navigation?

Cos as i have played around with some games on iphone, it doesn't seem to allow multitasking. It seems if i go do something else, then I'll have to start over again with the app i open...

Thank you in advance for your feedback. Cheers.

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QUOTE(nyanko @ Mar 28 2010, 01:17 PM)
Hi. I have a few questions regarding GPS apps on Iphone 3GS.

1. When GPS is navigating, when a call comes in, can I pick up the call, and when hang up resume back to the GPS navigation?

2.When the GPS app is on, can i go and make a phone call and back to the app?

3. If an sms comes in when GPS is navigating, can i goto check the sms and come back to continue the navigation?

Cos as i have played around with some games on iphone, it doesn't seem to allow multitasking. It seems if i go do something else, then I'll have to start over again with the app i open...

Thank you in advance for your feedback. Cheers.
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yes iphone does not allow multitasking
if u want, u have to jailbreak or JB ur iphone
and install some app to be able to do that
for ur question, im not sure
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QUOTE(nyanko @ Mar 28 2010, 01:17 PM)
Hi. I have a few questions regarding GPS apps on Iphone 3GS.

1. When GPS is navigating, when a call comes in, can I pick up the call, and when hang up resume back to the GPS navigation?

2.When the GPS app is on, can i go and make a phone call and back to the app?

3. If an sms comes in when GPS is navigating, can i goto check the sms and come back to continue the navigation?

Cos as i have played around with some games on iphone, it doesn't seem to allow multitasking. It seems if i go do something else, then I'll have to start over again with the app i open...

Thank you in advance for your feedback. Cheers.
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well bro you know that iphone dont support multitasking ...so definately the once call come in the app i think will be off and you need to restart it but the navigation route will be safe over the app..no need to navigate again...same goes to sms..and definately you cant make a call will navigating..it should be only one program working...
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QUOTE(nyanko @ Mar 28 2010, 01:17 PM)
Hi. I have a few questions regarding GPS apps on Iphone 3GS.

1. When GPS is navigating, when a call comes in, can I pick up the call, and when hang up resume back to the GPS navigation?

2.When the GPS app is on, can i go and make a phone call and back to the app?

3. If an sms comes in when GPS is navigating, can i goto check the sms and come back to continue the navigation?

Cos as i have played around with some games on iphone, it doesn't seem to allow multitasking. It seems if i go do something else, then I'll have to start over again with the app i open...

Thank you in advance for your feedback. Cheers.
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First of all, multitask can only be found on Palm and winmo.

Am not sure of the other GPS nav apps. But for PPG, when someone call, but you don't answer, the apps will resume back automatically showing your routing. But if you answer the call, the app will resume back automatically as well but showing the main menu. Still, your routing left intact and you just need to touch the navi button and you're good to go.

And if you're the one doing the call, exited the app but as long as you have not stop the navigation, when you open back the navigation should be ok I guess.

Basically, every other phone works this way, multitask or not. When somebody call, the call menu will appear but will resume back right after the conversation
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Did papago just raised their price back to 29.90 for pro version? I just bought it for 19.90 like 1 week ago, so lucky! smile.gif

the only complain for papago is cannot input/output gps coordinate or send location to friend.. if they add it then perfect liao..


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QUOTE(iori57 @ Mar 29 2010, 10:48 PM)
Did papago just raised their price back to 29.90 for pro version? I just bought it for 19.90 like 1 week ago, so lucky! smile.gif

the only complain for papago is cannot input/output gps coordinate or send location to friend.. if they add it then perfect liao..
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Ya,I noticed that ,too..lucky i bought it earlier when $19.90.tongue.gif
I hope they got coordinate input too!
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I bought it when it came out 29.90 sad.gif

anyway.. I prefer better and smooth UI first like tomtom/sygic, then it really perfect. because PPG UI really bad.. very lag
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BTW, take a look at China Papago. It's completely different than the others. In fact it's called Papago X6.3

The best part is, the app comes with elevated road and tunnel simulation. The elevated road function is just like those found in PND. Supposedly will ease navigation a lot.

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◎FEATURES
-Intelligent Search Function
-Simple, User Friendly Interface
-Fast Route Calculation
-Comprehensive Map Data
-No need to Connect to Internet (Wi-Fi/3G)
-Free and Fast Map Update

◎POWERFUL SOFTWARE FUUNCTIONS
-Intelligent Search Function
-Multi Navigation Mode: 2D/3D/Split Screen
-Road Elevation Display
-iFly Touch Screen Interface
-Simulation Inside Tunnels
-Portrait/Landscape Dual Mode Support
-Auto Zooming the Map by Speed
-Day and Night Mode for Display
-Visual and Sound Alarm for Speed Camera
-Built-in 3D Building
-Built-in 3D Landmarks
-Junction Views (realistic view of motorway interchanges and exits)
No sample image for the elevated view though
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QUOTE(mmmbop @ Mar 31 2010, 10:00 AM)
BTW, take a look at China Papago. It's completely different than the others. In fact it's called Papago X6.3

The best part is, the app comes with elevated road and tunnel simulation. The elevated road function is just like those found in PND. Supposedly will ease navigation a lot.

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No sample image for the elevated view though
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Malaysian Papago does have elevated roads function, probably not all roads but at least I saw many roads in Klang Valley are covered. If tunnel simulation refers to 3D building, I don't think Papago Malaysia have 3D tunnels apart from 3D buildings in KL. FYI 3D building data comes from Papago, not from Malfreemaps community.
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QUOTE(taqu @ Apr 1 2010, 11:38 AM)
Malaysian Papago does have elevated roads function, probably not all roads but at least I saw many roads in Klang Valley are covered. If tunnel simulation refers to 3D building, I don't think Papago Malaysia have 3D tunnels apart from 3D buildings in KL. FYI 3D building data comes from Papago, not from Malfreemaps community.
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Am not sure about the elevated road in Malaysian PPG cos has never seen one. Afterall, it's not stated officially by Maction, so I presume it's not available.

Tunnel simulation clearly means simulation when driving through any tunnel. Since GPS satellite can't detect thru that thick tunnel, normal navigation apps will show your location at the early part of the tunnel only and freeze. It will only resume back once you've exited the tunnel.

A long straight tunnel will may not benefited from this function. But with this simulation function it will help when you're driving in long tunnel like SMART with multiple exits inside the tunnel itself.
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yeah, PPG's interface not exactly as friendly as garmin, however it should be the latest gps for iphone SEA
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Hey guys,

I was trying to get a GPS app for my Iphone 3GS. So which is better?

-Papago M6 SG/MY (Lite) is free? What do you mean by no juction view?
-Is any Garmin App is compatible for Iphone?

As i search for garmin app in applestore and there is a garmin app availabe and need to purchase, can the app suitable for malaysia?

Please advice me on this matter?

Thx!!
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Garmin for iPhone? There's no such thing for the time being. That must be a guide for garmin or something. Read carefully all descriptions.

Lite still cost you $19.99.

This is JV function.

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A pop up window whenever you meet a junction and show you which junction to go. Very handy when in big city with those complicated expressway.

Bear in mind though that not every junction that you meet will be greeted with this function. It's up to the mappers in MfM to decide.
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Please refer to this website. I found it when browsing the AppStore.....

http://kmdmapps.com/iphone/tmti/garmin.html
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QUOTE(xXxJeremyxXx @ Apr 5 2010, 02:41 PM)
Please refer to this website. I found it when browsing the AppStore.....

http://kmdmapps.com/iphone/tmti/garmin.html
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it's only for external garmin gps i doubt?
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QUOTE(bliss85 @ Nov 13 2009, 12:47 AM)
Tried using tomtom on my 3gs in Malacca. Managed to get me to where I wanted to go after quite a few wrong turnings due to the occasionally bad and slow reception...

It's actually very sad to say this but the Garmin on my last e71 is just way better. It's fast, accurate and definitely more reliable... sad.gif

Btw, as some has experienced it before, the phone gets really hot after using the GPS for awhile and not to mentioned how fast it drains the battery... sweat.gif
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even u using the Garmin GPS unit also will heat up one lah... i think it heat up coz need to always communicate with the satellite laugh.gif


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it's only for external garmin gps i doubt?
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it's just a software which just introduce about garmin products laugh.gif

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QUOTE(xXxJeremyxXx @ Apr 5 2010, 02:41 PM)
Please refer to this website. I found it when browsing the AppStore.....

http://kmdmapps.com/iphone/tmti/garmin.html
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Have you read the site or just simply pass it to us? The title itself is self-explanatory blush.gif
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lol....i'm not sure bout that website as the application can be download in apple store which need to pay.....so if i'm wrong then i apologize.....
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Hi,

Just wondering which is the most accurate GPS for iphone as of today?

Is it tom tom, sygic or the new papago?

And also do we need to pay for internet data if we use the GPS on the iPhone?

And also for the tomtom, sygic and papago.. do they have their own malaysia maps? or do we use malsingmaps?



Thank you! biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(xXxJeremyxXx @ Apr 5 2010, 11:01 PM)
lol....i'm not sure bout that website as the application can be download in apple store which need to pay.....so if i'm wrong then i apologize.....
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What I'm trying to say since you are the one that gave the link you should have read the site. Clearly stated on the site that it's a guide to garmin devices, kind of digital manual app for garmin device


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Hi,

Just wondering which is the most accurate GPS for iphone as of today?

Is it tom tom, sygic or the new papago?

And also do we need to pay for internet data if we use the GPS on the iPhone?

And also for the tomtom, sygic and papago.. do they have their own malaysia maps? or do we use malsingmaps?
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Hi there.

Could you give us a favour by reading this thread starting the very first post? All of the answer is already in the previous posts. TQ

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is there any way to set the iphone to use A-GPS or GPS?
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QUOTE(lilster @ Apr 8 2010, 12:00 PM)
is there any way to set the iphone to use A-GPS or GPS?
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what are you trying to say bro.....gor gps you can get the app form itunes app store...there 2-4 apps for gps which allocate malaysia...
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I mean, iphone has A-GPS function which we will be charged if using it. But GPS itself is free. So, is there a way to toggle between using A-GPS or GPS?
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QUOTE(lilster @ Apr 8 2010, 12:35 PM)
I mean, iphone has A-GPS function which we will be charged if using it. But GPS itself is free. So, is there a way to toggle between using A-GPS or GPS?
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no i dont think so....a-gps using your 3g...but gps uses satelite signal..just incase you lock 3g service..gps cant be use as usual...t
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QUOTE(lilster @ Apr 8 2010, 12:00 PM)
is there any way to set the iphone to use A-GPS or GPS?
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Yes. The location services is the A-GPS function.

However this will affect iPhone's google map as it uses A-GPS only. Unlike Google map in other phone, there is no option for GPS.

So if you wish to use a navigation app by using GPS solely, it's better to use apps like Papago, TomTom etc.
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alright, thanks for clearing it up.
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Sygic Aura available for Malaysia, Singapore..
Any big different with previous one? anyone using it?
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It's in the news several months ago.

It's simply adding 3D building for the so-called navigation ease and ideal for social networking as it integrates chatting function.

A new idea but probably not useful.

Plus 3D building does not really help you in navigation seriously. Because there is so few of them that only selected famous building will appear. Especially in Malaysia.

Considering this is the same developer that produce Mobile Maps for SEA, I expect it's POI database and road network basically the same.

I still have my vote on Papago with 3D buildings and extensive network.
Nevermind if it's not as elegant as Sygics UI, but it takes me to the place i want to


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I am currently testing Sygic's Aura. So far I'm pretty impressed with the work they have done on making the app much more friendlier to use. The 3D navigation is very fluid and nicely implemented and a welcomed change over the Mobile Maps 2009 interface. It's also got some nice integration with some online services (have not tested). For malaysia currently only weather works. There's a traffic option as well but it's not available here as I think they are still working on it.

There's also some additions such as GPS strength indicators and the map integration to the compass, hence it changes views as you move. There's also option to select routing options based on whether you intend to walk or drive there.

POI wise, looks quite ok and pretty extensive. For some POI they have included info like phone numbers, etc.

GPS lock on is much faster compared to Mobile Maps 2009.

I will be taking it for a further test drive tomorrow. Will share my results here with you guys after the test.smile.gif

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sifu, how to update my Papago map to latest without having to delete the app in my iphone since i have saved lot favorites..
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QUOTE(jingyong @ Apr 17 2010, 10:39 AM)
sifu, how to update my Papago map to latest without having to delete the app in my iphone since i have saved lot favorites..
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Bro, read la this thread, got some taikors here already stated how to update maps for papago but for your convenience, JB your Iphone or read this post Page 19 only... just backtrack a bit...post by azim61

If u not JB your iphone, then wait for updates via itunes.. free and easy

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I know how to do that already.. i used the zip method and sync.. but if did not delete the app in iPhone, the map cant be updated.. so have to delete the app first.. i know there's another SSH method.. but i don like tongue.gif

so any idea how to use Zip method without having to delete my favorites?


Added on April 17, 2010, 10:49 amI realized that if i shut off my iPhone & reopen it, Papago will take a very looong time to locate the GPS location.. around 5minutes?

And if i open google maps first for it to use AGPS to locate it, then only open Papago to locate, it take lot lot faster coz Papago does not use AGPS..

I think AGPS is good in sense that it takes shorter time to locate the GPS signal.. so not sure why Papago doesn't want to use AGPS.. correct me if i'm wrong..

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Is TomTom really as good as they make it out to be? I'm thinking about getting it but it costs so much, and I don't wanna get it if it's laggy or has any other problems.

So far I've only seen one GPS program, and that's Garmin on my friend's Nokia N79. Anyone have experiences with both?
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QUOTE(perror @ Apr 16 2010, 03:33 AM)
I am currently testing Sygic's Aura. So far I'm pretty impressed with the work they have done on making the app much more friendlier to use. The 3D navigation is very fluid and nicely implemented and a welcomed change over the Mobile Maps 2009 interface. It's also got some nice integration with some online services (have not tested). For malaysia currently only weather works. There's a traffic option as well but it's not available here as I think they are still working on it.

There's also some additions such as GPS strength indicators and the map integration to the compass, hence it changes views as you move. There's also option to select routing options based on whether you intend to walk or drive there.

POI wise, looks quite ok and pretty extensive. For some POI they have included info like phone numbers, etc.

GPS lock on is much faster compared to Mobile Maps 2009.

I will be taking it for a further test drive tomorrow. Will share my results here with you guys after the test.smile.gif
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Other than social networking, weather and traffic update, all other features are already in Papago M6 Pro. Most experienced user I believe prefer Papago for one reason only, which is POI database. JV function is welcomed as well.

How do the POI in Sygic compare to Papago? I might give it a try if POI database is on par with Papago though seriously I doubt it.

BTW, the traffic update and weather option are also available in Garmin. Weather works fine in Garmin. But the problem is, no developer care enough to set up traffic database here in Malaysia. Any nav app with traffic update and synchronise with routing so it can avoid traffic jam will be a hit in Malaysia.


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QUOTE(jingyong @ Apr 17 2010, 10:02 AM)
I know how to do that already.. i used the zip method and sync.. but if did not delete the app in iPhone, the map cant be updated.. so have to delete the app first.. i know there's another SSH method.. but i don like  tongue.gif

so any idea how to use Zip method without having to delete my favorites?


Added on April 17, 2010, 10:49 amI realized that if i shut off my iPhone & reopen it, Papago will take a very looong time to locate the GPS location.. around 5minutes?

And if i open google maps first for it to use AGPS to locate it, then only open Papago to locate, it take lot lot faster coz Papago does not use AGPS..

I think AGPS is good in sense that it takes shorter time to locate the GPS signal.. so not sure why Papago doesn't want to use AGPS.. correct me if i'm wrong..
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Papago do use both GPS and A-GPS. If you turn off location services and open PPG, you will be prompted to switch on the location services. That will explain why our locaton can be detected even in a building.

And if you turn off the iPhone, it's common sense that signal will take quite sometime to lock.

Data on your last known location will be gone and at the same time, the satellites are already moving. The longer you leave PPG unused, the longer it will take to get a signal. And let say if you move to faraway location from the last location you've used your PPG, the signal will be hard to come by as well.


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Is TomTom really as good as they make it out to be? I'm thinking about getting it but it costs so much, and I don't wanna get it if it's laggy or has any other problems.

So far I've only seen one GPS program, and that's Garmin on my friend's Nokia N79. Anyone have experiences with both?
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I presume you're a newbie in GPS arena?

If your judgement is based on the current poll rating, I believe it's not as accurate as you think. TomTom came up top way before PPG is released.

Some may prefer TomTom and Sygic for their polished UI.

But others including myself prefer an app that do what it supposed to do. PPG is my choice simply because it's heart and brain comes from Malfreemaps, a community in Malaysia and Singapore comprise of mappers that update every single places and road that they can find. It's a localised, customised by our own local people. And who know the place better than local anyway?

If you look at Googlemaps for example, there are lots of places and road network still not updated, perhaps 1-2 years old database. TomTom if I'm not mistaken also depends on the same POI provider.

BTW take some time to read thru all the posts in this thread for more understanding.

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Papago do use both GPS and A-GPS

I wish people would stop spreading false information.

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Papago do use both GPS and A-GPS

I wish people would stop spreading false information.
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And how is that so?

Care to explain rather than brutally rejected other's explanation?
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QUOTE(angelflames @ Apr 19 2010, 09:57 AM)
Papago do use both GPS and A-GPS

I wish people would stop spreading false information.
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I guess he/she simply digest everything that has been put up in Papago's iTunes description. Never mind. Let her/him explain.
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mind if i ask how long do u guys usually take to lock the GPS? lets say in open area, totally no obstruction at all? and inside car with some buildings beside u along the road?for me, it took me around 5-10 seconds on north south highway but along road with buildings, even 2 minutes also havent lock.. i already drove so long also havent lock.. hehe
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hi.... i'm looking forward to purchase gps for iphone 3gs, is Papago a highly recommend one for malaysia and singapore user? mind sharing ur experience. thanks.. btw.. any lite version to be tested? on the other hand, should i purchase pro version or? thanks a lot
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Papago is half price of tom tom ... hmm ... means quality also half ?

and i have search itune store, no lite for gps ...


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In term of functions, Tomtom is far superior than Papago. Papago looks very basic. No route preview, cannot set alternate route, cannot set multiple destination, cannot enter coordinates, UI not as smooth as Tomtom etc.

However, Papago uses Malfreemap, which is the best map for Malaysia, and far superior than Tomtom's Teleatlas map. Don't dare using Tomtom to get you to a street in Temerloh, Pahang for example. As Malfreemap is a community project, it's constantly updated by people, including me smile.gif

Personally I can live with functionally inferior Papago with 1st rate map.

There's no free/trial/version of Papago. Papago is cheaper than Tomtom because Malfreemap is free, Tomtom's Teleatlas map is not. Papago lite is abit cheaper without 3D building & junction view. The Pro version is worth the extra price, junction view is useful to navigate through tricky lanes around Klang valley.
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Personally i like Sygic. I dunno about Sygic Aura but i use 2009's Sygic release. It always get me to the destination.

I dun like:

Papago - interface a bit cheapo
TomTom - not so user friendly
igo - did not like interface too and options.

Just my 2cents lah but i tried looking for Navigon, cant find. Anyone?
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hi guys, my papago used to be working fine but recently i only noticed that sometimes there's no voice navigation even though i didn't change anything in the settings.. but sometimes have.. anyone experiencing similar problem?

last time when open the papago, it will say 'searching satellite', then 'satellite search complete' but now also cannot hear that voice liao..

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QUOTE(saturniq @ Apr 21 2010, 10:50 PM)
Personally i like Sygic. I dunno about Sygic Aura but i use 2009's Sygic release. It always get me to the destination.

I dun like:

Papago - interface a bit cheapo
TomTom - not so user friendly
igo - did not like interface too and options.

Just my 2cents lah but i tried looking for Navigon, cant find. Anyone?
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A question. Do you bought all of the stated apps?

Do you consider a GPS nav app a better app based on POI or UI?

I consider a good GPS that works as claimed. An app that help me get to those remote and unfamiliar places without even have to ask a single local for direction.

The first moment PPG was out, I already considered to buy it only to wait for better price. When it dropped, no hesitation at all to splash the cash. For one reason only, MfM.

Otherwise better not having any GPS nav app at all.
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The only reason I still using Papago is because most updated map.. if sygic/tomtom use mfm map.. I sure change to either of these one
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QUOTE(mmmbop @ Apr 22 2010, 09:06 AM)
A question. Do you bought all of the stated apps?

Do you consider a GPS nav app a better app based on POI or UI?

I consider a good GPS that works as claimed. An app that help me get to those remote and unfamiliar places without even have to ask a single local for direction.

The first moment PPG was out, I already considered to buy it only to wait for better price. When it dropped, no hesitation at all to splash the cash. For one reason only, MfM.

Otherwise better not having any GPS nav app at all.
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Various friends use different apps hence i tested most of it. Like i said, it's personal on what platform you choose to use, i just like my Sygic. May PPG fans here too i see.

CheerS!
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QUOTE(saturniq @ Apr 22 2010, 02:09 PM)
Various friends use different apps hence i tested most of it. Like i said, it's personal on what platform you choose to use, i just like my Sygic. May PPG fans here too i see.

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Some of us are mappers. So we are quite clear in which app to use.

I merely think that only full user of the apps has the right to comment as they will have the true experience in using the apps. Hence, the right to hate or love the app.
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Newbie to GPS. I know how to use it well enough, but how does someone using Papago M6 for example, contribute to POI's etc?

Thanks.


QUOTE(taqu @ Apr 21 2010, 05:37 PM)
In term of functions, Tomtom is far superior than Papago. Papago looks very basic. No route preview, cannot set alternate route, cannot set multiple destination, cannot enter coordinates, UI not as smooth as Tomtom etc.

However, Papago uses Malfreemap, which is the best map for Malaysia, and far superior than Tomtom's Teleatlas map. Don't dare using Tomtom to get you to a street in Temerloh, Pahang for example. As Malfreemap is a community project, it's constantly updated by people, including me smile.gif
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QUOTE(mmmbop @ Apr 19 2010, 09:10 AM)
Other than social networking, weather and traffic update, all other features are already in Papago M6 Pro. Most experienced user I believe prefer Papago for one reason only, which is POI database. JV function is welcomed as well.

How do the POI in Sygic compare to Papago? I might give it a try if POI database is on par with Papago though seriously I doubt it.

BTW, the traffic update and weather option are also available in Garmin. Weather works fine in Garmin. But the problem is, no developer care enough to set up traffic database here in Malaysia. Any nav app with traffic update and synchronise with routing so it can avoid traffic jam will be a hit in Malaysia.
Well, after a few days of using it, here's what I've got to say. I can't make a comparison with Papago as I did not use it heavily so I'm not in a position to say which is better than the other in terms of POI databases etc. I used mainly Tom Tom previously.

Based on my usage, lock on wise it's certainly fast and from the looks of it, it does seem to use A-GPS as it managed to locate me in various difficult conditions pretty quickly.

Usability wise, I'd say my experience on it has been very pleasant. The searching, and so far the POI database seems to be quite decent. At least most of the shops that are generally new in my area (appearing within the last 3 months) seem to be present. UI wise, I'd say is a really much more refined experience. Searching for locations, address and POI etc was quite intuitive.

Routing wise, I found it to be very good. Putting it through some difficult situations and intentional mis-driving, the re-routing calculation was done pretty quickly and instantly.

Stability and speed wise is good.

I have not had the opportunity to test most of the online features as they have been having some issues with their servers i presume, but the weather feature was acceptable. I'll comment more on this part of Sygic once they've sorted out the issues they had with their online services. In regards to the traffic, and whether it integrates with routing, I am not able to test that as traffic integration seems to be a work in progress. I can check with them if it does integrate traffic info as part of routing or is it just for display purposes. Planning to ask them as well how's the traffic info integration going on as I had a talk with them last year on this topic.

Like saturniq mentioned, it's really a personal choice as to which app we choose to use. My take on it overall? I like the app. Very much so I use it more than Tom Tom now mainly because it's really quite user friendly and intuitive and it's fast as well. Most importantly it fulfills my requirements. I'm hoping that when their online services bit comes back into action, there will be more to see, but overall it has certainly replaced Tom Tom as my usual GPS app. Wish I had it when I was in Singapore, the walk function would have been pretty handy there. Most of the time Tom Tom just made me go in circles just to get say to a MRT station.

Problem wise, they've got some bugs, e.g online services and their map engine, although quite well optimized needs some work as I've encountered some bugs during my test period.

Guess that's about it for now and hope that the points above have been useful:)

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Since none of the apps (I have Papago & Sygic. I don't know about Tomtom) offers GPS logging, u have to track new roads via other app.

MotionX is cheap and decent. I use XGPS bcoz it's free and GPS logging is always enabled.

http://xgps.xwaves.net/index.php/Main_Page

For recording POIs, u can record in Sygic, and later retrieve the coordinates, or note down onto a paper. Another way some mappers do is snap photos of POIs, and later geotag/synchronize the photos with GPS logs.
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QUOTE(perror @ Apr 22 2010, 11:49 PM)
Well, after a few days of using it, here's what I've got to say. I can't make a comparison with Papago as I did not use it heavily so I'm not in a position to say which is better than the other in terms of POI databases etc. I used mainly Tom Tom previously.

Based on my usage, lock on wise it's certainly fast and from the looks of it, it does seem to use A-GPS as it managed to locate me in various difficult conditions pretty quickly.

Usability wise, I'd say my experience on it has been very pleasant. The searching, and so far the POI database seems to be quite decent. At least most of the shops that are generally new in my area (appearing within the last 3 months) seem to be present. UI wise, I'd say is a really much more refined experience. Searching for locations, address and POI etc was quite intuitive.

Routing wise, I found it to be very good. Putting it through some difficult situations and intentional mis-driving, the re-routing calculation was done pretty quickly and instantly.

Stability and speed wise is good.

I have not had the opportunity to test most of the online features as they have been having some issues with their servers i presume, but the weather feature was acceptable. I'll comment more on this part of Sygic once they've sorted out the issues they had with their online services. In regards to the traffic, and whether it integrates with routing, I am not able to test that as traffic integration seems to be a work in progress. I can check with them if it does integrate traffic info as part of routing or is it just for display purposes. Planning to ask them as well how's the traffic info integration going on as I had a talk with them last year on this topic.

Like saturniq mentioned, it's really a personal choice as to which app we choose to use. My take on it overall? I like the app. Very much so I use it more than Tom Tom now mainly because it's really quite user friendly and intuitive and it's fast as well. Most importantly it fulfills my requirements. I'm hoping that when their online services bit comes back into action, there will be more to see, but overall it has certainly replaced Tom Tom as my usual GPS app. Wish I had it when I was in Singapore, the walk function would have been pretty handy there. Most of the time Tom Tom just made me go in circles just to get say to a MRT station.

Problem wise, they've got some bugs, e.g online services and their map engine, although quite well optimized needs some work as I've encountered some bugs during my test period.

Guess that's about it for now and hope that the points above have been useful:)
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Thanks for the lengthy comment. I believe the traffic service is not available in Malaysia. Unless they activate it in the future I'll surely give it a try. Do update us if such service is available. But like any other services, it's high chance it's going to be a subscription-based.


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Newbie to GPS. I know how to use it well enough, but how does someone using Papago M6 for example, contribute to POI's etc?

Thanks.
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You can't do it by using PPG alone. You can follow taqu's way of doing it.

OTOH, I'm using my previous phone to do the job through GMXT and PPG X5. PPG X5 for windows mobile that I'm using currently do have coordinate option. I'm not crossing fingers on this, but hopefully maction will give us the same feature to M6 as well.

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QUOTE(mmmbop @ Apr 23 2010, 09:31 AM)
Thanks for the lengthy comment. I believe the traffic service is not available in Malaysia. Unless they activate it in the future I'll surely give it a try. Do update us if such service is available. But like any other services, it's high chance it's going to be a subscription-based.
It is not currently enabled. Probably a work in progress on their end. I'm not too sure about the subscription based model but that's something I'm gonna ask them as well. Will drop a note once they've gotten back to me:)
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didnt know so much about PPG. I will try it as an alternative to Sygic. Thanks peeps for the advice.
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im thinking of buying papago lite ....is the voice navigation good enough or do i need to buy pro which include junction view?

for example, voice might say, 'take 3rd exit left' when i approach a roundabout
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wow seems that alot of people vote for Tomtom in the poll... so expensive also so many people buy?

btw the only complain i have for papago is the 'car' flies out of the roads all the time... kinda annoying...

like everything seems ok, navigating around... then suddenly see my car fly out of the road kinda stupid... lol
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so actually for popogo lite is better or pro? bcos i quiet confuse lo
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Thanks taqu and mmmbop re POI and logging.

tabs - from what I've read, the main difference btwn PPG Pro and Lite is that Pro has the Junction View feature.

I've only been using PPG for about a week but I must say JV is quite helpful.

Given that at times, PPG (more a function of iPhone GPS engine I suppose) may 'lag' a little and plot your position a bit late - having JV can help you not miss your turning by providing a visual clue as to where you should go, as it comes up a fair distance before the junction arrives.

I have the same annoying issue as iori57, but again, think this has more to do with the GPS engine in the iPhone - although, a better (?) algorithm in PPG may be more 'intelligent' not to 'jump off the road' so quickly, e.g. by assuming the car hasn't suddenly lept 200m to one side?

BTW, I have yet to hear any audio instructions from my PPG! It does not bother me too much as I don't rely on audio but am wondering all the same what gives!

From macobserver.com

http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/goo..._to_the_iphone/


Google Turn-by-turn Navigation Finds its Way to the iPhone
April 23rd, 2010 at 10:43 AM - News by Jeff Gamet

Google is bringing its own turn-by-turn navigation to the iPhone, and it won’t be charging for the feature. The Internet search giant hasn’t said when it plans to roll out its new navigation features for the iPhone, but did confirm that it’s also rolling them into its Google Maps app on the Android platform, according to MacUser.

Unlike some turn-by-turn GPS navigation apps for the iPhone that include their own built-in map sets, Google’s system will rely on an Internet connection to build and map routes to locations. Google will, however, cache the maps for a route ahead of time assuming users have an Internet connection when they enter their destination.

“Google Maps pre-caches the entire route. It needs a data connection when you ask for navigation. But while driving to your destination, if you intermittently lose the connection, it will still carry on. As long as you stay on the route,” explained Google’s Mobile Maps product manager, Steve Lee.

Google’s plans may be good news for iPhone owners that can’t afford other turn-by-turn navigation apps, but companies that already offer similar products through Apple’s App Store will no doubt be watching closely to see what impact Google’s route into their territory has.
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i have purchase the papago pro version..
but why the Application is really2 slow lol..
i used it on my iphone 3gs...
and the Apps is really suck..
why always locate me at KL?
LOL?
on google map locate me where i am..
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i also just purchase papago pro version is quiet okay la.. although a bit slow but the problem now is i don't know how to update. bcos everything i update it will give me error that i cannot use keyboard to find my place. sweat

any people willing to teach?
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hello, wondering if any of u all here using papago for iphone? i wanna ask how come when i open the papago sometimes it will search for satellite, sometimes it wont. and when it doesnt, i dont know how to make it search.

cuz yesterday i really needed gps but it wont search for my current location. i am in gombak and the gps is in klcc =(
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I've read (can't remember where) that going to the iPhone Maps app, and doing a locate (press the icon lower left) and getting a lock from there; then going into PPG will help to speed up the lock.

Give it a try.



QUOTE(lilster @ Apr 24 2010, 12:50 PM)
hello, wondering if any of u all here using papago for iphone? i wanna ask how come when i open the papago sometimes it will search for satellite, sometimes it wont. and when it doesnt, i dont know how to make it search.

cuz yesterday i really needed gps but it wont search for my current location. i am in gombak and the gps is in klcc =(
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BTW, I have yet to hear any audio instructions from my PPG! It does not bother me too much as I don't rely on audio but am wondering all the same what gives!


Hmm.. i have the same issue wor! It used to have audio instructions (voice navigation) before.. but I think after the last update, it doesn't have audio anymore! I wonder if everyone experience this in the latest version?

Thanks..
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hi asharom, but if i lock it with my iphone maps they will charge me right?
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QUOTE(iori57 @ Apr 24 2010, 04:44 PM)
Hmm.. i have the same issue wor! It used to have audio instructions (voice navigation) before.. but I think after the last update, it doesn't have audio anymore! I wonder if everyone experience this in the latest version?

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Hmm mine has voice navigation still intact.. well, hopefully this bug will be fixed with more improvements as well in the next update
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Should be very minimal - as it's only a few bytes to download your current location's map.

It's more to 'kick the GPS into action' and lock on, I think.



QUOTE(lilster @ Apr 24 2010, 04:42 PM)
hi asharom, but if i lock it with my iphone maps they will charge me right?
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asharom, tried ur method. still not working. the ppg still showed my current position in kl.

i even tried to reinstall but still same =(
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I just bought the Papago lite 1 hour be4 my joernwy to Melaka. Overall it is fantastic. Got me to jonker n now I'm at the portugese settlement for sinner. One gripe I have which is the gps response is a bit slow n even if I turn into a junction already, still prompts me to turn even if I have passed it. Had to make one u turn coz the turning was tricky.

Compare this to my previosly used symbian based garmin, I'm ok wit this just that I miss the map design it has. Color contrast on this not that good coz under sun, very hard to differenciate
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QUOTE(cRazYee @ Nov 12 2009, 08:44 AM)
does tom tom have maps for asia country?
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tomtom....
malaysia...yes
singapore...yes
i find it sloww...personal opinion..
maybe bandwidth...maybe weather...cloudy day?? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(lilster @ Apr 24 2010, 07:14 PM)
asharom, tried ur method. still not working. the ppg still showed my current position in kl.

i even tried to reinstall but still same =(
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QUOTE(iori57 @ Apr 24 2010, 02:20 AM)
wow seems that alot of people vote for Tomtom in the poll... so expensive also so many people buy?

btw the only complain i have for papago is the 'car' flies out of the roads all the time... kinda annoying...

like everything seems ok, navigating around... then suddenly see my car fly out of the road kinda stupid... lol
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That's 2D lock.. Means the satellite reception is not good enough. A 3D lock will give you more accurate position.

I can't offer an explanation for this behavior but several possible reasons will be:

1. If other GPS-based apps like TomTom and Mobile Maps also have the same behavior, then it's clear that GPS chipset in iPhone is not good enough. I only have PPG so can't tell for sure
2. If only PPG showing this behavior, then it's either the mapset or the software bug

That being said, rarely I'm having such problem happens. If they do, it will resume back in secs.

Even Garmin with other phone will also sometimes shows the same behavior


Added on April 26, 2010, 9:36 am
QUOTE(imrozx @ Apr 24 2010, 06:11 AM)
i have purchase the papago pro version..
but why the Application is really2 slow lol..
i used it on my iphone 3gs...
and the Apps is really suck..
why always locate me at KL?
LOL?
on google map locate me where i am..
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Just because you don't know how to use it don't call it suck.

Google map is using A-GPS.

Meanwhile PPG is a combo of A-GPS and GPS. If you are using it first time, do it outside of the building. Even though it's using A-GPS, it will be slower to lock than normal Google maps because A-GPS in PPG is use only to route/guide satellite to find your location.

BTW, not having any issue with voice navigation even with the latest version.

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Where can we find the this iphone TomTom car kit here in Malaysia? http://www.tomtom.com/products/product.php?ID=939&Category=2
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dear all... i've juz brought 3gs 16mb with ppg and tomtom installed. os is 3.1.2
but neither works.
jailbreak oledi... :(
anybody got this issue?
both kept searching or gps....
pls help.
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QUOTE(saico @ Apr 26 2010, 09:15 PM)
dear all... i've juz brought 3gs 16mb with ppg and tomtom installed. os is 3.1.2
but neither works.
jailbreak oledi... sad.gif
anybody got this issue?
both kept searching or gps....
pls help.
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lol, you got china made 3gs ah? only 16mb happy.gif

jokes aside.. hmm did you try it outdoors? got try using the google maps application in your 3gs? can it lock down your location? If cannot your unit is probably faulty..

lets hear what other forumers have to say.
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QUOTE(saico @ Apr 26 2010, 09:15 PM)
dear all... i've juz brought 3gs 16mb with ppg and tomtom installed. os is 3.1.2
but neither works.
jailbreak oledi... sad.gif
anybody got this issue?
both kept searching or gps....
pls help.
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did u switch on your GPS aka location??

try use A-GPS for faster lock...
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go to proclipusa.com

they have the kit there. Shipping will cost you as they fedex it but call them (skype!) and see if they can send via usps.

I bought my car mount/iPhone 3gs holder from them and am one happy camper!

Now I have a great rm90 gps app that works fine.

And with my iPod kit from icarkits.com - I have everything I need!

Just need to figure out the mic into the kit and I'll have handsfree phone too!
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If you do get the TomTom car kit, do post some comparisons of performance with/without it used.

It would be interesting to see how much of a performance improvement it brings (as it has a 'better' GPS chip in it), compared to using the iPhone's native GPS.

Cheers.
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guys i hav a question, iphone 3gs come with GPS or only a-GPS??

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im currently using papago m6 pro...it works perfectly in shah alam,bt still take a lil longer 2 search 4 signal.bt when i try 2 use it at my univ at perak,it seems like no signal at all...huhu....

any1 got exprience using iGo?
cz im cnsidering of buying it....
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QUOTE(ZintanthraX @ May 7 2010, 06:32 PM)
im currently using papago m6 pro...it works perfectly in shah alam,bt still take a lil longer 2 search 4 signal.bt when i try 2 use it at my univ at perak,it seems like no signal at all...huhu....

any1 got exprience using iGo?
cz im cnsidering of buying it....
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yeah, i have problems with papago getting signals locks as well.

at the end of the day, Google Maps gives best signal lock and direction. But at the cost of no turn by turn voice directions, you may crash.

so.. yeah tongue.gif
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hey, tomtom gps need internet connection? when i open it it says no gps fix right now. i thought it can operate without internet connection like papago?
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QUOTE(lilster @ May 8 2010, 07:30 PM)
hey, tomtom gps need internet connection? when i open it it says no gps fix right now. i thought it can operate without internet connection like papago?
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just wan to ask that papago singapore and malaysia got bali map ?
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iGo also prob with signal....huhu....
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Seriously, I'm perplexed why do so many users having problem with satellite locks. Perhaps, these guys should clarify the "problem". Does it mean a very long time to lock or there is no lock at all?

Alas, a comparison with google map is a moot point. Google map primarily uses A-GPS which requires NO SATELLITE at all (at least in iPhone as google map version for other phone do have GPS fix). By using telco's tower triangulation on the ground, you can expect it's way much faster but less stellar in terms of accuracy.

Papago for example uses GPS satellite to lock. It requires quite sometime to lock but once you get a solid lock, it's way more accurate than A-GPS.

Therefore, there are several rules of thumb to follow when using GPS-based application.

1. Always stay outside any building and preferably away from any cluttered high-rise buildings around you for faster lock. This is especially true when it's the first time you start PPG

2. When you haven't use PPG for quite sometimes, satellite will also take quite sometime because while you're still at the same location (your house for example), the same satellites that gave you the locked have moved away, requiring you to lock to adjacent or nearer satellite. (there are about 32 GPS satellites)

3. When you have moved away, faraway from the place where you last used PPG, it will take quite sometime to lock as well, for basically the same reason with no 2.

PPG said in the iTunes description that they are not using A-GPS. But I believe this refers to the main method of tracking similar like Google maps. However, if you start PPG, you will be prompted to turn on location services if isn't turn on yet. This is A-GPS and explained why you do get signal in a building even though probably not that accurate.

If anyone asks why do it still take quite sometime though it does have A-GPS, I believe this is due to the fact that A-GPS in PPG is use only to guide satellite to track you down, unlike A-GPS in Google maps which lock you on once you start the app.

I'm on non-JB, I believe what I've said will work wonders with those with the same set. Am not sure those with Jbed phone will work the same as the problem may lies somewhere else.

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i've used both TomTom Malaysia/SG
And PapaGO M6 Mal/Sing Ver.
as for me. tomTom has friendlier interface
but just older map.
papago on the other hand. have latest map but.
not very friendly interface.
=.=.
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is there any free gps?
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i applied US account. so where do i get the reload card?
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I feel bit regret using iPhone when there is no free version of superb gps software like garmin, mapking, etc. Feel like downgrading.. cry.gif
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use the map app that came with it. not bad. real time movement as you move. although u need to knwo how to read one manually ;p
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QUOTE(VforCe @ May 12 2010, 09:48 AM)
I feel bit regret using iPhone when there is no free version of superb gps software like garmin, mapking, etc. Feel like downgrading.. cry.gif
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hello, what u mean free? garmin also have to pay la. u all know how to download cracks only
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Is there a way to input coordinate in Tomtom? can't seem to find the function... or is it not possible?

Btw Tomtom interface is much better than Papago!! If they update the map then perfect liao =)
though I think the map is already quite ok for me, since my area which is quite new also got show up smile.gif why do you guys keep saying the map not updated?

Thanks!
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As for me.
My area, Johor Bahru,
The Jusco tebrau city that were build around 07 didnt show up on the map !
=D!
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QUOTE(ExtraSpicyCrunchy @ May 12 2010, 01:37 PM)
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As for me.
My area, Johor Bahru,
The Jusco tebrau city that were build around 07 didnt show up on the map !
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Ouch.. hehe i guess they only update KL area smile.gif

How to enter coordinates in Tomtom? ar....

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haha, I don't think there is any free GPS software for other devices as well....

So far so good with M6 Papago + Malfree map... the POI quite ok even in Kedah.
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PPG has an update.

M6.4 has new malfreemap map dated 15th April 2010. Total download size 242.8MB. Been working real nicely for me and signal lock has been very fast. thumbup.gif

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I don't really care about the map update. Self update can always be done.

The main priority here, why they haven't fix the UI laggines?

The problem will become more prominent in landscape mode
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Poor Ppl using free version software, not crack one. tongue.gif
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it's a pity that MFM has stop the map update for Papago ATM.. they are facing some prob here... haiz..
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tomtom also has the problem of car flying out of the road... like papago..

i wonder if the iphone's gps chip itself is not that good compare to nokia's.. or is it garmin software more reliable?
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guys, since there is no free gps app, can you all Gurus help to list all all best valued GPS app that is available, and the price also? thanks, i'm a noob here, thanks again.
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QUOTE(stinger82 @ May 15 2010, 10:46 AM)
guys, since there is no free gps app, can you all Gurus help to list all all best valued GPS app that is available, and the price also? thanks, i'm a noob here, thanks again.
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look at the poll voted.. u should know what people r using

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