I need more info on the updated Sygic. The keyboard issue have been replaced to more touchh friendly and updated map as well. Anyone have bought updated or buy the latest one? Comment please?

At thorn of buying between TomTom and Sygic as both with the same price.

Reporting in.

Papago for Taiwan has been sighted.

Papago for iPhone

Released 29th Dec 09.

The taiwanese version even comes with 3D landmark and lane assist as well. Now, this is more like dedicated standalone GPS.





No clue to date if they will ever release any Malaysian version. If yes, we might have a chance to use local mapper's version of Papago map. Considering that their standalone GPS already integrated with MFM maps it will be great if the same can be bundle with the apps. Tomtom and sygic won't stand a chance in terms of POI.

I believe it's true that a great GPS nav apps should be accompanied by detailed and complete waypoints and road networks. That being said, garmin obviously stand out here probably not because it is the best nav out there but due to the fact it has extensive map coverage courtesy of MSM officially and even MFM unofficially.

But the UI, auto-reroute duration, etc does play some role as well in determining which is the best. Consider that if Tomtom for example having an equally map database with garmin, then it might be spoiled for choice

Interesting. Which map do you use? MFM? I don't think there is any Malaysia map for iphone version?

I presume you JBed the phone to replace the map file? Guess I have to wait for the official Malaysian version. If any though.

Mailed the company some time ago about any possibility of Malaysian version yet unanswered.

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Added on January 12, 2010, 9:45 amThis is something that I don't have any conclusion as yet. Some says iphone do have GPS and even come up with image of GPS/A-GPS chipset. some says only A-GPS.

What I do suspect, Google maps in iPhone uses AGPS/tower triangulation only, because it's very not accurate. Plus, Gmaps in iPhone doesn't have the "Use GPS" function like in other phone with confirmed GPS.

While some said that iPhone has GPS receiver, they believe that the receiver is too weak compared to other type of GPS phone. This might be supported by the fact that TomTom provide GPS receiver in their kit as well

This post has been edited by mmmbop: Jan 12 2010, 09:45 AM

If you ask me, you have to confirm with those who is using Tomtom or Sygic. I'm not in the position to give that answer as I'm still monitoring which navigator is the best and the most stable.

I'm looking forward to the Papago..considering that malaysian mappers has already compiled maps in Papago format. And yes as an omnian, the garmin in omnia is more than satisfying.

I just don't want the iphone goes bare like that without any proper navigation apps, hence lurking here for the best navigator

whoa thanx..been waiting for this!

Just realised.

It's already using MfM..expect absolutely updated POI! and even updateable weekly! This will trump the other two contenders easily.

That being said, we'll see how the apps perform, and how friendly is the UI

This post has been edited by mmmbop: Jan 21 2010, 12:25 PM

i believe it'll have the most updated map weekly only if only iphone is JBed..then you can update by yourself. cause any map update in itunes must obviously get the apple permission.so the non JBed one will have map update only when maction update the apps version.

BTW, I'll love papago more than others not only due to localised map, but due to JV function which is veryyy crucial

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Added on January 22, 2010, 3:55 pmsomeone else had done this and apparently, mfm can be used except, the language is not replaceable

This post has been edited by mmmbop: Jan 22 2010, 03:55 PM

I'm yet to buy M6 but already have X5. means UI probably different but supposedly that function already on.

Anyway, you can't expect all junction to have JV. all of this are done locally by our mappers at MfM. obviously you can expect more JV in KL compared to other places

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Added on January 29, 2010, 2:59 pmYou can't expect a gps phone to be as sharp and accurate as PND. this is a software modified to suit the phone. delay 3 sec still considered normal for a phone


This post has been edited by mmmbop: Jan 29 2010, 02:59 PM

I believe this is the best bargain.

Nowhere it can drop to 9.99 as the taiwanese version as malaysian papago has a Lite version.

So, better grab it while you can

Can you guys please check which MFM version the 6.2 is using?

Download map from MfM. Install. copy and paste in the .ipa file of the resepective Maps folder in iTunes.

1. open the .ipa file with winrar or the like.

2. change the extension of .psu from MfM to .psz

3. add all the new files from mfm into the maps folder of .ipa file, with exception of file with the extension of .kuf

That will do.


BTW, this is the first time ever I'm using dedicated satnav apps for iphone with GPS..the gmaps use A-GPS..

What I realize the iphone GPS receiver is not as good as other phone. there were several occurences of the receiver having problem in locking even while routing

This post has been edited by mmmbop: Feb 5 2010, 03:08 PM

Strange. many others doesn't have problem right from installation. there must be some difference in terms of fw version, jb/non jb etc that cause this

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Added on February 8, 2010, 10:24 amMalfreemaps.com

Find the download section. Look for latest Papago for android/iphone version. install and you are good to go.

Guess later many will flock to Mfm for free map..hopefully you guys do some favour by contributing pois etc to mfm to grow it further. the more you give, the more you will get..in terms of detailed map of course

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Added on February 8, 2010, 10:29 amFirst thing first.

Map update can be done via BOTH JB and non JB. the winrar/winzip method is for non JB

And for those have problem like error during installation,

please,

1. Install first WITHOUT any modification (means original Papago maps)
2. Later you update the map using winrar.

As a precaution, do backup the original Papago maps so if anything goes horribly wrong, you can restore to original.

This post has been edited by mmmbop: Feb 8 2010, 10:29 AM

just wanna to add.. BTW i'm on non JB so don't know whether this will make any difference.

I only changed the .psu to .psz because the original iphone papago's version is in .psz version.

I dont change the caps on .dbp etc and it still works fine.

BTW don't think .psu for android solely because windows mobile version also .psu

The M6 does not support full address search. Even X5 doesn't as well.
Hope further update will give more features and pretty please..fix the UI lag..really doesn't suit the smoothness of iPhone capacitive screen

Update: I have X5 which also uses MfM and it seems the map database in X5 is even newer than M6.

While Papago does not support full address function like garmin, road search is available. And in my case, a specific road name that I wish to go appeared in X5 but not in M6.

So it all boils down on the database, not the apps itself.

This post has been edited by mmmbop: Feb 10 2010, 04:12 PM

Question: Have you used Papago?

How come a navigation apps will be good without a detailed map database?

Well I have no objection to the UI issue. Indeed it wasn't as nice as Tomtom or Garmin. It's a legacy of MapKing that's why. I will also not deny that the lagging problems of the UI.

But come to think of it as software bugs.. which can be resolve by the next update, well pending to the developer's effort obviously. Meaning to say, it's a relatively minor issue. Afterall, when navigating you're not going to keeps on touching the screen. Once routing, the apps will do its job.

The big issue here is the purpose of that apps itself. If you buy an apps to search for nearby atm location but the apps can't find any, then what good that will be?

What I'm pointing out here, can you live with a navigation apps that can't bring you to the destination that you want?

Well I'm not saying going to KLCC, that's an obvious choice.

How about these kampung roads/small town or even newly developed taman. For example, can you find Jalan Vista Emas 3, Bandar Baru Bangi by using TomTom?

I'm surprised if you are ever find it by using TomTom.

The Papago M6 is not perfect, but it's the application that serve its purpose satisfactorily for now.

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Added on February 22, 2010, 2:20 pmThe accuracy of a navigation apps depends on both software and hardware..Means the map database and the GPS receiver. The GPS receiver issue is an ongoing debate. Some did said that the iPhone's receiver are not good enough compared to its competitors. Competitors here refer to other GPS phone, not other PND.

But we have to ponder why TomTom produce a GPS kit for iPhone equipped with a GPS receiver? Yup, that indeed increase the GPS signal but most probably not necessary.

My other GPS phone works well even with tinted car screen.

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Added on February 22, 2010, 2:34 pmI beg to differ on this part.

A truly dedicated PND have bigger receiver, thus more accurate. Plus, it does have that extra function that make it more special compared to GPS phone.

For example, previously JV is only available in PND though we know now that Papago support it. AFAIK, only papago for the time being, GMXT still has no support for this function.

TTS is currently supported only by PND though I do heard that Taiwan's papago has TTS function which can say the names of the road you shoul be taking.

LA - Lane assist also not available for phones. Don't be mistaken this with JV.

Elevated highway also for PND.

Enough to say, there's a long way to go before a dedicated PND can be laid to rest.

But I must say that I'm satisfied with my current GPS phone though.

This post has been edited by mmmbop: Feb 22 2010, 02:34 PM

I must say that the new update at least solved part of the lagging screen problem.

Much responsive now compared to previous version. This exactly like I said earlier. software bugs can be solved. map data? you figure out!

This post has been edited by mmmbop: Mar 1 2010, 01:41 PM

You meant GPS coordinate?

Give them time la..This a new apps for iphone. map update is much important than coordinate search.

Rarely people find a place by using coordinate. Even if they are hardcore mappers they won't use iphone in the first place.

Afterall my Papago X5 does have coordinate displayed with coordinate search as well.

I guess it's just a matter of time before they update M6 with new features.

Oh BTW..my vote for Best GPS actually goes to other before Papago released. If only I can re-vote it's clear Papago has mine

This post has been edited by mmmbop: Mar 4 2010, 01:12 PM