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TSkianwee
post Nov 1 2008, 09:36 AM, updated 16y ago

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LCD Monitor Thread v5.00 (FYI: LCD MONITOR ≠ LCD TV)


Recommended LCD Monitor Review Links:

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LCD Panel Guides:

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Contemporary LCD Monitor Parameters and Characteristics




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Sizes Comparison:


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post Nov 1 2008, 09:37 AM

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post Nov 1 2008, 09:54 AM

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Your monitor sizes comparison doesn't have 17" widescreen. Anyway, I added that one here....

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now, there are plenty of 16:9 lcds around. dell, benq, asus, viewsonic n acer. compare the price, all seem really competitive. 24" full hd around ~rm1200 which can be consider a good price.

...so right now, haven't decide which one to buy!.hehe
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QUOTE(lex @ Nov 1 2008, 09:54 AM)
Your monitor sizes comparison doesn't have 17" widescreen. Anyway, I added that one here....

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I think there should be a 21.6" on that chart. Well, since it's a valid monitor and to let people see how much do they really differ.
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wow. now samsung 2253LW, just RM 6XX only (KL)???me here(kuching)just have see 2253BW selling RM799. 2253LW i cant find it. don't know where can find..........
2253LW or 2253BW,hard to choose........don't know which 1 better...

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Nice.....upgraded to ver5...

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i got see same ppl say , The BW came out first, and is being replaced by the LW .is this true???
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QUOTE(squaresoft @ Nov 1 2008, 11:11 AM)
i got see same ppl say , The BW came out first, and is being replaced by the LW .is this true???
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Yes exactly and the only difference is its size.
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post Nov 1 2008, 12:07 PM

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Already V5. Good. :thumb:

In Kuantan, 2253LW also sell around RM8++ but suddenly price drop to RM799 and I got another discount. Only one shop here displaying 2253LW, other need to order.

2253LW came out after 2253BW as a replacement of 2253BW. Don't ask me why the size difference. May be samsung found out that 21.6" is the perfect size to lower the manufacturing cost and economical.
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QUOTE(squaresoft @ Nov 1 2008, 10:31 AM)
wow. now samsung 2253LW, just RM 6XX only (KL)???me here(kuching)just have see 2253BW selling RM799. 2253LW i cant find it. don't know where can find..........
2253LW or 2253BW,hard to choose........don't know which 1 better...
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You have to ask. no all shop put all LCD for show. I buy Samsung 943BWX also ask de. I see all shop (should be all) only show 943NWX LCD only. Clear old stock ma. haha brows.gif

Try go Compumart 3rd Floor Saberkas ask. They should have detail. Yea I buy LCD from there, quite cheap
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I just bought a new samsung LCD and i enter the secret menu to check whether the LCD is new or not

And inside there are few other settings that i can set and i would like to know whether i should turn in off or on

my original setting :
pixelshift =off
hdcp hotplug =off
hotplug time = 9

what is the above means?

should i turn on the pixelshift?

so what is the best setting?

thanx
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Hey guys, finally gonna upgrade my 19" BenQ. Thing is im not sure if i should go for either the 22" or 24". I think i read somewhere 2ms is important for gaming ya ? Anyways my budget is around 1.2k, appreciate any tips or guidance.

Thx in advance.
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i am building a new com for my friend.. Could any1 here recommend me 1 19 inch wide screen lcd monitor. Budget strictly not more than 500 ringgit
.. THANKS IN ADVANCE..
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QUOTE(studwo @ Nov 1 2008, 05:23 PM)
i am building a new com for my friend.. Could any1 here recommend me 1 19 inch wide screen lcd monitor. Budget strictly not more than 500 ringgit
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There are a few brand new 19" monitors being sold for less than RM500 like BenQ G900W or 18.5" G900HD, ViewSonic (forgot its model) blush.gif
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why some 24 "LCD monitor more expensive than the 32" TV LCD ??? bcoz of the quality ??
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QUOTE(limhongwoon @ Nov 1 2008, 06:13 PM)
why some 24 "LCD monitor more expensive than the 32" TV LCD ??? bcoz of the quality ??
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Mostly is because of the resolution, if i mistaken you compare those 32" HD ready to those high end 24" LCD monitor.
For the high end 24" LCD they using better panel at 1920*1200 pixel but 32" HD ready TV is using 1368*768 pixel only.

For more details you can refer here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD_ready
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_HD
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_2408wfp.htm
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LG W2242T
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LG 226WT
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Samsung 2253LW

Guys which one is the best?In terms of image quality?

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Yeah.. New v5.
Samsung 2253BW owner here happy.gif
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QUOTE(Siu_Keong @ Nov 1 2008, 06:56 PM)
Mostly is because of the resolution, if i mistaken you compare those 32" HD ready to those high end 24" LCD monitor.
For the high end 24" LCD they using better panel at 1920*1200 pixel but 32" HD ready TV is using 1368*768 pixel only.

For more details you can refer here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD_ready
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_HD
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_2408wfp.htm
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It's actually 1366*768 smile.gif
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QUOTE(kianwee @ Nov 1 2008, 08:09 PM)
It's actually 1366*768 smile.gif
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768 are HD ready panels, slightly big for 720, but slightly small for 1080


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LG W2242T
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LG 226WT
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Samsung 2253LW

Guys which one is the best?In terms of image quality?
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2253LW

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hi guys,
i was wondering, what's the purposes of owning several monitors?
i saw a lot of forummers actually have own two monitors and above.
cause planning to buy monitor. i dont know whether go for 1 unit of 24" monitor or 2 unit of 22" monitors.
find out owning 2 monitor is kinda cool but i still don know what is the purposes of owning 2 monitor tho.
someone guide me please? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Andiboi @ Nov 1 2008, 08:24 PM)
hi guys,
i was wondering, what's the purposes of owning several monitors?
i saw a lot of forummers actually have own two monitors and above.
cause planning to buy monitor. i dont know whether go for 1 unit of 24" monitor or 2 unit of 22" monitors.
find out owning 2 monitor is kinda cool but i still don know what is the purposes of owning 2 monitor tho.
someone guide me please? tongue.gif
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If you don't see any gains with extra monitor then go for 24" of course. Since you don't know the purpose, it'd mean you don't need it.

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well, i been asking ppls' around me but none of them know it tho.
lolz, they know nothing bout pc tho.
and this question been bothers me since last year.
at least tell me the uses of it so i have an answer at last.
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QUOTE(Andiboi @ Nov 1 2008, 08:24 PM)
hi guys,
i was wondering, what's the purposes of owning several monitors?
i saw a lot of forummers actually have own two monitors and above.
cause planning to buy monitor. i dont know whether go for 1 unit of 24" monitor or 2 unit of 22" monitors.
find out owning 2 monitor is kinda cool but i still don know what is the purposes of owning 2 monitor tho.
someone guide me please? tongue.gif
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I don't use 2 monitors cos my eyes cannot support more than one. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Andiboi @ Nov 1 2008, 08:41 PM)
well, i been asking ppls' around me but none of them know it tho.
lolz, they know nothing bout pc tho.
and this question been bothers me since last year.
at least tell me the uses of it so i have an answer at last.
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some people do multitasking like multiple word applications, multiple excel applications and multiple other apps... XD like my office, almost all pc in my office are dual monitor, as we need to view a lot of screens at the same time, not feasible to keep switching tabs... smile.gif
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dell s2409w & benq E2400hd, which one is better,
dell is RM1,089
Benq is RM1,199

other thing, how abt LG2252WTQ, the price is RM599, quite cheap ler...
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dunno much about using two monitors, but usually people who uses design softwares use two monitors. and people who plays games a lot while downloading and surfing. one monitor used for playing the games and the other one to be used as monitoring downloads and stuff. but, our eyes can only focus on one thing at a time. think about it..
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any Asus LCD user here?
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Another example just like someone using one monitor watching market share rate / football match another one use for surfing / playing games.

they can get the latest news without any clicking, just moving their eyes. (A sound ~> "Goal !!!" Eyes change monitor )
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eh anyone

pixelshift on or off?
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QUOTE(Onion-KiD @ Nov 1 2008, 11:29 PM)
Another example just like someone using one monitor watching market share rate / football match  another one use for surfing / playing games.

they can get the latest news without any clicking, just moving their eyes. (A sound ~> "Goal !!!" Eyes change monitor )
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Haha!
i can get that image. great example.
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HD4670 can use with 22' lcd monitor?er..means can get good resolution i think.><
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QUOTE(Onion-KiD @ Nov 1 2008, 11:29 PM)
Another example just like someone using one monitor watching market share rate / football match  another one use for surfing / playing games.

they can get the latest news without any clicking, just moving their eyes. (A sound ~> "Goal !!!" Eyes change monitor )
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It sound like you experience in it tongue.gif Anyway base on the need, some ppl need dual LCD display and mostly is for those graphic designer.
For me i more using VNC and remote desktop to do my works since i need to do several tasks in several machines and lazy to walk around tongue.gif

QUOTE(RoxyGal @ Nov 2 2008, 12:10 AM)
eh anyone

pixelshift on or off?
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Still dun have any samsung user to answer? Anyway i just google it and find some acticle about auto pixel shift.

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Auto Pixel Shift - Prevent Image Screen Burn In

An ongoing problem with both Plasma Displays and Conventional TVs is image burn in. This occurs when a single image is displayed continuously on the screen over a long period of time. The result is burn in of the image into the screen itself, thus degrading viewing. SAMSUNG’s Plasma Panels incorporate auto pixel shift technology. The picture automatically shifts by 1 pixel in all directions every second, non visible to the naked eye, thus preventing burn in.


Hope you know what is it about 1st, then you know what to set. smile.gif

QUOTE(michaelyii1988 @ Nov 2 2008, 02:22 AM)
HD4670 can use with 22' lcd monitor?er..means can get good resolution i think.><
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Previous HD4670 user report in, this card is good and able to pair with my 24 inch LCD as well but no to mention playing high performance game in the 22 or 24 inch native resolution.
If you not a gamer, 128 bits HD4670 is doing well for HD movie, anime, graphic and some decent games. smile.gif

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QUOTE(cp7111269 @ Nov 1 2008, 10:16 PM)
dell s2409w & benq E2400hd, which one is better,
dell is RM1,089
Benq is RM1,199

other thing, how abt LG2252WTQ, the price is RM599, quite cheap ler...
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What shop LG 2252WTQ RM 600?Or where did u see? sweat.gif
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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Nov 2 2008, 02:44 AM)
What shop LG 2252WTQ RM 600?Or where did u see?  sweat.gif
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That true..L226WT only RM589 and L2242T-BF only RM599 at Lowyat Prestige IT smile.gif .....
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QUOTE(cp7111269 @ Nov 1 2008, 10:16 PM)
dell s2409w & benq E2400hd, which one is better,
dell is RM1,089
Benq is RM1,199

other thing, how abt LG2252WTQ, the price is RM599, quite cheap ler...
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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Nov 2 2008, 02:44 AM)
What shop LG 2252WTQ RM 600?Or where did u see?  sweat.gif
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QUOTE(chanws8 @ Nov 2 2008, 02:57 AM)
That true..L226WT only RM589 and L2242T-BF only RM599 at Lowyat Prestige IT  smile.gif .....
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LG 2252 is sold for RM650 lar.
2242 and 226 for RM600.
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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Nov 2 2008, 02:44 AM)
What shop LG 2252WTQ RM 600?Or where did u see?  sweat.gif
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I saw at thundermatch in lyp

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wow man, lcd getting cheaper and cheaper every day, last 2 year I bought mine 17 for 565, and now I want to ask opinion which brand serve better for watching movies? and can my lappy 8400M gs support up to 24 monitor perfectly?

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QUOTE(cp7111269 @ Nov 2 2008, 09:07 AM)
I saw at thundermatch in lyp
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Another round of price cut? rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

So far LG is doing it, doesn't see any Samsungs
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QUOTE(cybersonic23 @ Nov 1 2008, 09:56 PM)
some people do multitasking like multiple word applications, multiple excel applications and multiple other apps... XD like my office, almost all pc in my office are dual monitor, as we need to view a lot of screens at the same time, not feasible to keep switching tabs... smile.gif
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this is correct. I'm currently using dual 17" lcd with my C2D rig....been running this setup for the past 2 weeks or so...while waiting to get a 22" lcd...

IMO, very good for multi-tasking....surfing LYN on 1 screen, surfing DCM on another.... biggrin.gif
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Since the LG 226 is so cheap, has anyone seen it before? What is the colors like? I've been reading 30 pages at HardForum and 13 pages at Anandtech and most they talk about is where to get it as opposed to what colors it is producing. with 1000:1 typical Ratio, supposedly be better than the other LG 2252wtq with 700:1, from the specs no?

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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Nov 2 2008, 11:05 AM)
Since the LG 226 is so cheap, has anyone seen it before? What is the colors like? I've been reading 30 pages at HardForum and 13 pages at Anandtech and most they talk about is where to get it as opposed to what colors it is producing. with 1000:1 typical Ratio, supposedly be better than the other LGs with 700:1, from the specs no?
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Black frame with white stand, at the 1st look u might feel weird with that color mismatch, but after a while of usage u'll get to used with it.
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QUOTE(michaelyii1988 @ Nov 2 2008, 02:22 AM)
HD4670 can use with 22' lcd monitor?er..means can get good resolution i think.><
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Mine only HD2600XT but can use 22". The problem is not about getting a good resolution but your pc performance when playing games. I have no problem playing DMV4 with my rig although I get lower fps ( 25~30) when playing at high resolution (1280x1024) and using dx10. So, I believe higher range of GC will have no problem.

But if you just want to use for internet, or word and divx movie, lower end gc is enough.

QUOTE(cp7111269 @ Nov 2 2008, 09:07 AM)
I saw at thundermatch in lyp
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Don't get wrong with LG W2242T with LG W2252TQ. W2242T priced at RM599 while W2252TQ prices at RM9++. The only place I heard selling W2252TQ for RM6++ is at Sunway Pyramid. Heard from one of forumer here. But may be those seller give him wrong model. Lucky him.

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QUOTE(qwerty79 @ Nov 2 2008, 11:42 AM)
Mine only HD2600XT but can use 22". The problem is not about getting a good resolution but your pc performance when playing games. I have no problem playing DMV4 with my rig although I get lower fps ( 25~30) when playing at high resolution (1280x1024) and using dx10. So, I believe higher range of GC will have no problem.

But if you just want to use for internet, or word and divx movie, lower end gc is enough.
Don't get wrong with LG W2242T with LG W2252TQ. W2242T priced at RM599 while W2252TQ prices at RM9++. The only place I heard selling W2252TQ for RM6++ is at Sunway Pyramid. Heard from one of forumer here. But may be those seller give him wrong model. Lucky him.
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Prestige IT's selling W2252TQ for RM650.

http://www.pitb.com.my/download/accessories.pdf
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Why most people still suggest Samsung 2253LW even with LG 2252WTQ?Is it because the Samsung has better image quality?
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Prestige IT's selling W2252TQ for RM650.

http://www.pitb.com.my/download/accessories.pdf
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Really, that's cheap. If only I live in KL, will have lots of other choice.
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Hmm guys maybe last questions..Samsung 2253LW and LG2252WTQ which one has better in image quality?
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Don't get wrong with LG W2242T with LG W2252TQ. W2242T priced at RM599 while W2252TQ prices at RM9++. The only place I heard selling W2252TQ for RM6++ is at Sunway Pyramid. Heard from one of forumer here. But may be those seller give him wrong model. Lucky him.
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i'm very sure that is lg2252wtq,
lg2252wtq is so much different with lg2242,
All it also got lg2252, but the price is RM699
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If compare the spec side by side, LG W2252TQ is much better from Samsung 2253LW.

LG have 22" screen size, 10,000 DC and lighter. But the typical contrast only 700.

Never seen this model before, so can't give real life comparison.

BTW, I think LG malaysia wrongly put the resolution size. Suppose to be 1680 x 1050, not 1440 x 900 right?

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what the different between dynamic contrast ratio and typical contrast ratio
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Hmm IF the Samsung 2253LW is 22" Screen,LG still better or Samsung?
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This is the answer I get from Yahoo! Answer

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Static contrast ratio is the better value to use for comparison because it describes the blacks and white more accurately. As you said, since most companies no longer use this value anymore, then we have to rely on comparing dynamic contrast ratio. The reason why companies use dynamic because it is a higher number. The general public tend to buy things with higher specs because they are uneducated about electronics.

A good static number is above 1500:1. A good dynamic number is 7000:1 or higher.

There isn't an exact formula to convert static to dynamic, as they are not directly related. Generally speaking, it's usually 4 to 5 times the static.


For me, I only use typical contrast. When I set to dynamic contrast, sometimes the screen will be too bright and too dark. So far, as I'm still less than a week using my lcd monitor, I can't see any use of dynamic contrast.
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wow... version 5 already
nice then... being reading since version 3

anyway... going to buy bigger lcd this year end at kuching town
want to ask my sister to buy since she is in ukm
but i scared she woould spoilt the new lcd on the way back here
any forumer can suggest to me nice 22" lcd for gaming n movies???
my budget would be not more than rm800

now i am using samsung syncmaster 732n
serve me for 1 year already

my rig would be leadteck7800gt extreme on e8400 with 2gb ddr800
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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Nov 2 2008, 12:55 PM)
Why most people still suggest Samsung 2253LW even with LG 2252WTQ?Is it because the Samsung has better image quality?
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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Nov 2 2008, 01:09 PM)
Hmm guys maybe last questions..Samsung 2253LW and LG2252WTQ which one has better in image quality?
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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Nov 2 2008, 02:03 PM)
Hmm IF the Samsung 2253LW is 22" Screen,LG still better or Samsung?
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Lolz.. pity u asked so many times liao. This question is kinda subjective from person to person.
As mentioned earlier, go to shop & see them side by side.
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Yahloo.. go compare side by side, then you know. This one really subjective.
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that also a reason no people dare to answer you. Maybe i like the Samsung design but you don't.
performance both are ok.

just the difference function and design.
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Any LCD have DVI+HDMI 24 inch below RM 800 ? or around when price reduce to RM800 ?
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Any LCD have DVI+HDMI 24 inch below RM 800 ? or around when price reduce to RM800 ?
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BenQ G2400W below RM1000 but over RM800.


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eh ...lcd set to 60 hz or 75 hz

which setting is better ar?

for crt the higher the better

for lcd leh?

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QUOTE(RoxyGal @ Nov 2 2008, 07:08 PM)
eh ...lcd set to 60 hz or 75 hz

which setting is better ar?

for crt the higher the better

for lcd leh?

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Normally is using 60Hz is depend on the LCD can support more or not.
So the pixelshift you understand and solve already?
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hey guys , izit worth to get T220 or dell 2409? i think both 1k around right? thanks in advance
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eh ...lcd set to 60 hz or 75 hz

which setting is better ar?

for crt the higher the better

for lcd leh?

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theoretically, the higher vertical refresh rate, the better....put la...75hz...hehe biggrin.gif
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LCD can put up to 60hz meh?
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can even my old 931bw can put 60hz anyone can answer me~~ wakaka
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LCd native refresh rate is 60 ma?Not mie?
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@minghao. ya mine also until 60Hz only. But i dunno whether other LCD spec can go more higher or not, so i put normally and basically is 60Hz. tongue.gif
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mine can 60 and 75 o.o .... i tot grafic card also got related in hz?
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I think depend on monitor. Some can go 75, but some can't. I already try setting some lcd monitor to 75Hz but my eye easily get dizzy.
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QUOTE(polisdirajasarawak @ Nov 2 2008, 02:17 PM)
anyway... going to buy bigger lcd this year end at kuching town
want to ask my sister to buy since she is in ukm
but i scared she woould spoilt the new lcd on the way back here
any forumer can suggest to me nice 22" lcd for gaming n movies???
my budget would be not more than rm800
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If you want to buy the monitor in kiching, samsung 2253 already sell at RM 899, but you can go for 22" Full HD monitor like BenQ. Not sure if Kuching got sell one.

QUOTE(tellmewhy @ Nov 2 2008, 07:39 PM)
hey guys , izit worth to get T220 or dell 2409? i think both 1k around right? thanks in advance
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compare the spec and make sure you have enough budget. you can google for review on both monitors.
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i think most LCDs can go 75hz....what i understand is that the higher the vertical refresh rate, the better....take CRTs for example...thay can go 100hz on some units....

and also, the higher, the less the "headache" should be....
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anyone using LCD monitor wall mount? or bracket?
what should i call those thing....................

precisely, can dell s2409w use that thing?
i cant find any suitable holes to hook it up....

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lol..wall mounting.
I do tempted to stick my LCD on my wall but afraid it might went down..
let's use this LCD for a year at least before lettingit goes down for fun..hahaha.
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QUOTE(nyunyu @ Nov 2 2008, 08:38 PM)
lol..wall mounting.
I do tempted to stick my LCD on my wall but afraid it might went down..
let's use this LCD for a year at least before lettingit goes down for fun..hahaha.
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dont worry about dropping down if you install it properly.. smile.gif
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hey guys , izit worth to get T220 or dell 2409? i think both 1k around right? thanks in advance
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yesterday i go lowyat see...
All IT hyper sell T220 at RM945 or 955 only..
quite cheap adi nowadays...... and i like the design thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(snoopyguy @ Nov 2 2008, 10:22 PM)
yesterday i go lowyat see...
All IT hyper sell T220 at RM945 or 955 only..
quite cheap adi nowadays...... and i like the design  thumbup.gif
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Wow,that really cheap...But i prefer T240 tongue.gif ...
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QUOTE(nyunyu @ Nov 2 2008, 08:38 PM)
lol..wall mounting.
I do tempted to stick my LCD on my wall but afraid it might went down..
let's use this LCD for a year at least before lettingit goes down for fun..hahaha.
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I think the screws at the stand can be removed. But not sure whether there's wall mount suitable for S2409W or not. Like the stand for 2408WFP
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Haih a bit dissatisfy with the s2409w stand and the VESA compliant mount, make me can't use the 2007wfp ultrasharp stand since i have pretty of them. sad.gif
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Any free software to calibrate lcd monitor? So far I only use software from Samsung, MagicTune.
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Any free software to calibrate lcd monitor? So far I only use software from Samsung, MagicTune.
Look at the first post on this thread. For example, the "LCD Monitor Test Images" link is quite useful... ( http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/ ) wink.gif



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wta about my new samsung t220 lcd monitor,
my wallpaper is black n have a one green small dot
it is a dead pixel ?
i newbie lcd user.
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i just buy samsung 2253LW yesterday....
i just confuse about the fine control n the auto adjustment button at the LCD cannot use...
It's say "Auto Adjustment Not Available" blink.gif

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QUOTE(masterz_man @ Nov 3 2008, 11:18 AM)
i just buy samsung 2253LW yesterday....
i just confuse about the fine control n the auto adjustment button at the LCD cannot use...
It's say "Auto Adjustment Not Available"  blink.gif
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how much u bought?
coz u using digital cable mah...no need auto adjustment

anyway..the setting im using brightness 20 ...contrast 25...gamma 3....RTA off..color tone normal..RGB all 50 value...

what bout you?
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QUOTE(koolguy @ Nov 3 2008, 02:21 AM)
wta about my new samsung t220 lcd monitor,
my wallpaper is black n have a one green small dot
it is a dead pixel ?
i newbie lcd user.
thanks

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That is a stuck pixel. Dead pixel doesn't have color. Try pressing and rubbing gently on it in circular motion and see if it goes away.
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anyone knows whether lyp got sell this 2 new benq models? T2200HD and T900HD. IMHO looks pretty nice to me, with full HD support too. saw the T2200HD at a shop in mines today, but the sales person not sure the price sweat.gif
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QUOTE(RoxyGal @ Nov 3 2008, 02:34 PM)
how much u bought?
coz u using digital cable mah...no need auto adjustment

anyway..the setting im using brightness 20 ...contrast 25...gamma 3....RTA off..color tone normal..RGB all 50 value...

what bout you?
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lol...
it's just what i tot... laugh.gif
It cost RM725...
I live at kelantan,so just buy here consider it's much easy to send back for warranty if anything goes wrong

i Just use simple setting
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QUOTE(masterz_man @ Nov 3 2008, 11:18 AM)
i just buy samsung 2253LW yesterday....
i just confuse about the fine control n the auto adjustment button at the LCD cannot use...
It's say "Auto Adjustment Not Available"  blink.gif
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You use dvi connection right? Only available when using RGB connection. Ha..ha.. I'm also wonder why, but after reading the damn manual, finally I understand.

QUOTE(masterz_man @ Nov 3 2008, 08:13 PM)
lol...
it's just what i tot...  laugh.gif
It cost RM725...
I live at kelantan,so just buy here consider it's much easy to send back for warranty if anything goes wrong

i Just use simple setting
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Nice price you got there. Here the cheapest is RM750 after really hard to get discount sweat.gif .

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I thought if the LCD got any problem, you just need to send it to the nearest Samsung store??
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QUOTE(koolguy @ Nov 3 2008, 02:21 AM)
wta about my new samsung t220 lcd monitor,
my wallpaper is black n have a one green small dot
it is a dead pixel ?
i newbie lcd user.
thanks

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may be like my case.
At 1st I tot that it was a dead pixel, but after rubbing it with finger the dot removed.
It is a colourless particle.
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Hi guys, I'm planning on buying a 24-inch LCD monitor with resolution of 1920 x 1200, and comes with HDMI connector.

What is the best 24-inch monitor in market now, in terms of price and also quality ?

By the way, is it glossy capabilities will give better image quality ?

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Hopefully 24 inch LCD prices will go down soon. The prices going down at turtle pace. Can't wait till it goes down to RM1000++
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Hi guys, I'm planning on buying a 24-inch LCD monitor with resolution of 1920 x 1200, and comes with HDMI connector.

What is the best 24-inch monitor in market now, in terms of price and also quality ?

By the way, is it glossy capabilities will give better image quality ?

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Glossy screen is supposed to make image sharper I think.
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When comparing lcd monitor with glossy screen and normal (forget what it call), I like the glossy screen. Image look sharper and nicer. But I don't like the reflection on the screen. If got lighting from behind, can see the light reflection.
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QUOTE(qwerty79 @ Nov 4 2008, 05:20 AM)
When comparing lcd monitor with glossy screen and normal (forget what it call), I like the glossy screen. Image look sharper and nicer. But I don't like the reflection on the screen. If got lighting from behind, can see the light reflection.
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anyway...which would u guys choose, between the 2: LG226 or the 2253LW?

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I heard of one forumer saying his tv has better colourings than his lcd monitor(it was benq). Anyone has LCD monitor reviews that tries to compare different LCDs together? I never found one.

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I just got me a BenQ E2400HD but heres a thing, theres a little bleed at the top about half inch. Its not really apparent unless the screen is totally black. I couldnt even spot it at the shop as it was bright, but saw i plugged at home. Anyways, i brought it back to the shop and got a new one, then got back and its the same thing.

So anyone who has bought this lcd got the same issue ? Or is this common and acceptable with 24" lcds ? My previous monitor was 19" lcd but had no bleed whatsover. Appreciate your thoughts.
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Small bleeding is normal, but half inch? sweat.gif

I never tried 24" so can't give comparison for 24". But so far from some of 19" I checked, I never saw "half inch" bleeding and mostly none. My 22" lcd got like <0.2" bleeding. May be because the screen is bigger, the bleeding also larger.
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hfi i think urs is defact, eventhough bleeding is normal, but it wont be too bright, just slightly......

i'm using 2 24" inchs, but all is quite ok, with minor bleeding. but 1 of them need some running hours to warm up and tweaking to get the yellowish TN problem away.

i use my monitors for paper work, so colour is not a serious problem for me
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Thx for the reply guys. Yeah this is the first time i had ever experienced a backlight bleed, so i was quite troubled when i first saw it. It is quite bright, as in it is clearly visible even with a black desktop background. And this even without the room being completely dark (tv and side lamp switched on).

I rang BenQ and asked them whether this is normal with this particular model or for any 24" lcd for that matter. The guy doesnt quite understand what i was talking about and never heard the term backlight bleed but he said he will get few samples from this batch and get back to me by Friday.

To be honest, i think i might be able to live with it, just at the moment, doesnt feel right seeing this glow at the top of the screen.
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QUOTE(LExus65 @ Nov 4 2008, 11:55 AM)
hfi i think urs is defact, eventhough bleeding is normal, but it wont be too bright, just slightly......

i'm using 2 24" inchs, but all is quite ok, with minor bleeding. but 1 of them need some running hours to warm up and tweaking to get the yellowish TN problem away.

i use my monitors for paper work, so colour is not a serious problem for me
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Nowadays no more 24" with 16:10 ratio ?
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I think the 16:10 is bigger than 16:9. I have made a comparison here and judge by yourself

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half inch backlight bleed...serious man..u nid a doctor for ur lcd..
my LG W2252TQ got no backlight bleed problem tho...
u can try to ask for warranty i suppose,it's a defect
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Guys,do you guys know what shop in Lowyat that do postage?AND Which shop sells LG W2252TQ Below RM 600?
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Guys,do you guys know what shop in Lowyat that do postage?AND Which shop sells LG W2252TQ Below RM 600?
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16:9 is wider but 16:10 is taller. tongue.gif
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Here I wonder any user didn't facing LCD bleeding before?Even my home branded Sharp Aquos LCD TV also have several bleeding.Mine viewsonic also..but a shred only la.
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guys.... if i wana sapu a 22inch for gaming n movie with budget below 1k which one do u guys recommend ya?

been too long outdated from monitors sweat.gif

pls tell me the reason why to get the particular model too if possible....currently having samsung 2232gw n getting some problem with the power plug sweat.gif might need to RMA
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My company usually buy from dell and hp. These companies have really good lcd monitor bcoz very rare I see more than 0.1" backlight bleeding.
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LG W2252TQ below 600?i suppose u need to wait year 2010 lo...
plus postage sumore doh.gif
i strongly suggest LG W2252TQ,can get around 900+ i suppose..
contrast ratio 10000:1,if u put 2242 and 2252 together next to each other...u'll be mesmerised!! brows.gif
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LG W2252TQ below 600?i suppose u need to wait year 2010 lo...
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i strongly suggest LG W2252TQ,can get around 900+ i suppose..
contrast ratio 10000:1,if u put 2242 and 2252 together next to each other...u'll be mesmerised!! brows.gif
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Mika is selling W2252TQ for RM680 including postage now.
Last time was W2242TQ with the same price brows.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Nov 4 2008, 11:24 PM)
Mika is selling W2252TQ for RM680 including postage now.
Last time was W2242TQ with the same price  brows.gif  brows.gif
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i got mine 2253lw for rm 685 wor
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i got mine 2253lw for rm 685 wor
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QUOTE(minghao @ Nov 4 2008, 09:13 PM)
Here I wonder any user didn't facing LCD bleeding before?Even my home branded Sharp Aquos LCD TV also have several bleeding.Mine viewsonic also..but a shred only la.
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Yup, my ACD is perfect with no backlight bleed and the first revision Dell 2007WFP. So far only this two. The worst is my Dell 2005FPW long long long time ago.
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Nov 4 2008, 11:53 PM)
Monitor: Samsung 2253LW<-- Changed smile.gif
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what do u mean by changed?
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QUOTE(kianwee @ Nov 4 2008, 11:55 PM)
Yup, my ACD is perfect with no backlight bleed and the first revision Dell 2007WFP. So far only this two. The worst is my Dell 2005FPW long long long time ago.
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what do u mean by changed?
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what IPS 24" lcd do we have in malaysia apart from hp's 2475.... I wanna get one... anyone know where to get 2475 cheap?
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LittleLinnet, both E248 and E2409 has not much difference in between.

but E2409w has slightly better colour quality, but for paper work it a bit slight disadvantage as it has less height
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Guys...I need some advice in getting a new monitor.

1) Which one should I take? A LCD monitor? Or a LCD TV use as monitor?

2) What are the pros and cons of these two?

Note: Previous monitor burned suspected due to overheat. (My room no air-cond and I turn On monitor for a long period eg. more than 8hours). Heard that LCD Tv is more durable for my condition. (Dunno how true)

Thanks... notworthy.gif

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LCD Monitor is best for desktop usage..
U may use LCD TV for HTPC purpose or movie viewing only.. For long hour surfing, gaming and office works, still need proper designed LCD monitor..
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LCD Monitor is best for desktop usage..
U may use LCD TV for HTPC purpose or movie viewing only.. For long hour surfing, gaming and office works, still need proper designed LCD monitor..
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lcd TV got the TV tuner and connection which u dont need for desktop use. Furthermore, the image will look pixelated because the size is big but the reslution is less.
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QUOTE(LExus65 @ Nov 5 2008, 01:12 PM)
LittleLinnet, both E248 and E2409 has not much difference in between.

but E2409w has slightly better colour quality, but for paper work it a bit slight disadvantage as it has less height
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about the e2409.... does it has any ghosting issues like 2407?

i wud liek to hear opinions from the users of this monitor about the pros n cons... cos its rm1k only now ...

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I have a very good news and full hd has never been so affordable
its really hard to believe another company viewsonic released 2 models of 22 inch FULL HD Monitor and their price is so cheap in USA just 220 usd and 270 and with rebate only 200 usd Damn are they in malaysia? they are new models both has HDCP and one has DVI , VGA and HDMI 2ms and other has DVI, and VGA 5ms

FULL HD at 22 inch like Benq now if only Samsung, Acer and LG does like this there will be many ppl enjoying Full hd at affordable prices

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16824116396

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16824116400

i saw a review in hardwarezone malaysia are they in MSIA how much is it costs here?

http://hardwarezone.com.my/news/view.php?id=12031&cid=5

the review was posted in nov 3rd so its in msia how much does it cost??

and can anyone tell me or pm me who are the official sellers/suppliers/retailers/distributors of viewsonic and acer monitors plz? how can i contact them?

i am really crazy abt these monitors too

i know its not 1080p but it looks awesome man anyone saw it here in MSIA? whats the price?


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16824009156


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16824009154

g24


and this one some lyn forummer has it he said he bought it at RM 1380 i think it has 50,000:1 CR built for gaming

so plz give me the prices and contacts if possible and where to get them i think i am gonna buy a monitor in Christmas time and lets hope Sammy, Ace and LG or at least LG produce 22 inch FULL HD monitors

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Nov 5 2008, 06:50 AM)
I'm quoting qwerty79's siggy.  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(shado @ Nov 5 2008, 03:50 PM)
Guys...I need some advice in getting a new monitor.

1) Which one should I take? A LCD monitor? Or a LCD TV use as monitor?

2) What are the pros and cons of these two?

Note: Previous monitor burned suspected due to overheat. (My room no air-cond and I turn On monitor for a long period eg. more than 8hours). Heard that LCD Tv is more durable for my condition. (Dunno how true)

Thanks...  notworthy.gif
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For desktop, use LCD monitor. LCD monitor is more suitable for internet and daily usage. For normal 32" with HD ready, the resolution only 1360 X 768, smaller than 17" lcd monitor. The text is readable but not nice. Although with large screen, your desktop space is smaller. But if you more money, I believe there are 22" inch lcd tv model out there. The price... well as expected very expensive.
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Hi kianwee, your DELL 2007WFP is the IPS panel? If so you have a great LCD there.  thumbup.gif
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Still going strong right now.
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jz wanna have little fun

eh if use the sony highest spec bravia X full HD 40 inch as com lcd...compare to best com lcd..
jz wanna compare a bit..which will be the clearest LCD among all....


which will win?if use on pc? dell?sony USD 21,500?

this sony USD 21,500 priced LCD ..anyone can tell me..what make this sony LCD so so expensive?

http://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/cat-monitors/...roduct-BVML230/


Sony bravia X 40 inch
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dell 30 inch

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or the mega ibm lcd at

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_T220/T221_LCD_monitors

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Just ordered Dell S2409 .... How long does it takes normally for Dell to send it to my home ?
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Just ordered Dell S2409 .... How long does it takes normally for Dell to send it to my home ?
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I got it in 7 days, or 5 working days
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bro owikh.... can u share ur experiencee using this monitor?

any good or bad?
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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Nov 5 2008, 11:55 PM)
bro owikh.... can u share ur experiencee using this monitor?

any good or bad?
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Pros:
-16:9 ratio means no weird scaling is required for video and game content
-Well priced RM1089 for 24"
-VGA, DVI, HDMI inputs all included
-Crystal clear picture on any setting

Cons:
-Dude, you're gettin' a dell. With a monitor like this for this price you HAVE to buy it!
-Loss of vertical resolution to achieve 16:9 ratio as compared to 16:10
-Uses TN panel technology which isn't the best
- HDMI cable is not included
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thanks alot bro owikh....well.... have u tried gaming on it?

do u find it having ghosting problems? ohya, this is glossy or not eh?

need to know cos my primary is for gaming n movie notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Nov 6 2008, 12:10 AM)
thanks alot bro owikh....well.... have u tried gaming on it?

do u find it having ghosting problems? ohya, this is glossy or not eh?

need to know cos my primary is for gaming n movie notworthy.gif
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Yeah, it is perfect for movies & gaming. I'm a gamer.
No ghosting issue, it's pretty fast & beautiful quality of pictures.
Not glossy screen.
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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Nov 6 2008, 12:10 AM)
thanks alot bro owikh....well.... have u tried gaming on it?

do u find it having ghosting problems? ohya, this is glossy or not eh?

need to know cos my primary is for gaming n movie notworthy.gif
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Probally nowadays no monitors are suffering in ghosting effects,the ms thingy is marketing gimmick from the manufacturer only.Even 16ms monitor are free of ghosting ady.

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QUOTE(RoxyGal @ Nov 5 2008, 11:50 PM)
jz wanna have little fun

eh if use the sony highest spec bravia X full HD 40 inch  as com lcd...compare to best com lcd..
jz wanna compare a bit..which will be the clearest LCD among all....
which will win?if use on pc? dell?sony USD 21,500?

this sony USD 21,500 priced LCD ..anyone can tell me..what make this sony LCD so so expensive?

http://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/cat-monitors/...roduct-BVML230/
Sony bravia X 40 inch
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

dell 30 inch

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


or the mega ibm lcd at

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_T220/T221_LCD_monitors
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First of all, both are catered for different market, there's no direct comparison between this two products, as stated in my first post, Hooking up to a FULL HD LCD will never get you the clarity of a LCD monitor. Full HD LCDs have a maximum resolution of 1920x1080 no matter what size it is, whereas a 30" LCD Monitor can display up to 2560x1600, you get a smaller screen with a higher resolution, thus finer details. You should read the first line and the first post of this thread, LCD MONITOR ≠ LCD TV. LCD TV has so much more connectivity, some even comes with a digital TV tuner, remote control, bigger panel etc and that justify the price that you're paying for it.
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QUOTE(kianwee @ Nov 6 2008, 12:42 AM)
First of all, both are catered for different market, there's no direct comparison between this two products, as stated in my first post, Hooking up to a FULL HD LCD will never get you the clarity of a LCD monitor. Full HD LCDs have a maximum resolution of 1920x1080 no matter what size it is, whereas a 30" LCD Monitor can display up to 2560x1600, you get a smaller screen with a higher resolution, thus finer details. You should read the first line and the first post of this thread, LCD MONITOR ≠ LCD TV. LCD TV has so much more connectivity, some even comes with a digital TV tuner, remote control, bigger panel etc and that justify the price that you're paying for it.
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oh ok ..thanx


eh..anyone can come to this site and see the background?

i can see some blinking background with my sensitive eyes leh

http://www.wickedlasers.com/lasers/The_Torch-74-0.html

lcd not good enuff?
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QUOTE(minghao @ Nov 6 2008, 12:18 AM)
Probally nowadays no monitors are suffering in ghosting effects,the ms thingy is marketing gimmick from the manufacturer only.Even 16ms monitor are free of ghosting ady.
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There are some ppl claimed that they can see the ghosting problem. May be they should really worry about their slow eyes. tongue.gif
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I would like to know whether BENQ or LG monitor is good and can last long. The pricing for these brands are cheaper than Samsung. Initially, I was looking for 19" monitor (maybe samsung) with budget around RM600. But, when i see 22" BENQ and LG monitor for 600+ it makes me thinks twice. hmm.gif

I'm using this monitor mainly for gaming and watch downlaoded anime/tv series. I'm using Redeon 4850 as my graphic card.
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Anyone can suggest me which 22" lcd should I pick, that can be used nicely in sraphics work, movies, gaming ? Currently in my list are Samsung 2253BW 8000:1 and LG W2252TQ. smile.gif


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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Nov 6 2008, 12:05 AM)
Pros:
-16:9 ratio means no weird scaling is required for video and game content
-Well priced RM1089 for 24"
-VGA, DVI, HDMI inputs all included
-Crystal clear picture on any setting

Cons:
-Dude, you're gettin' a dell. With a monitor like this for this price you HAVE to buy it!
-Loss of vertical resolution to achieve 16:9 ratio as compared to 16:10
-Uses TN panel technology which isn't the best
- HDMI cable is not included
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I've been wondering, what kind of content do you watch mostly? 720p? 1080p? or SD...
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why are u guys ignoring me? nobody replied my previous post why?
another good news though acer is also producing FULL HD 1080p monitors of 21.5 inch has 20,000:1 CR and 2ms response HDMI and HDCp incl only 199 USD i will definately get this because why waste 350 to 400 usd when u can have it at 200 usd

is it in msia?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16824009157

my previous post reposted
"I have a very good news and full hd has never been so affordable
its really hard to believe another company viewsonic released 2 models of 22 inch FULL HD Monitor and their price is so cheap in USA just 220 usd and 270 and with rebate only 200 usd Damn are they in malaysia? they are new models both has HDCP and one has DVI , VGA and HDMI 2ms and other has DVI, and VGA 5ms

FULL HD at 22 inch like Benq now if only Samsung, Acer and LG does like this there will be many ppl enjoying Full hd at affordable prices

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16824116396

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16824116400

i saw a review in hardwarezone malaysia are they in MSIA how much is it costs here?

http://hardwarezone.com.my/news/view.php?id=12031&cid=5

the review was posted in nov 3rd so its in msia how much does it cost??

and can anyone tell me or pm me who are the official sellers/suppliers/retailers/distributors of viewsonic and acer monitors plz? how can i contact them?

i am really crazy abt these monitors too

i know its not 1080p but it looks awesome man anyone saw it here in MSIA? whats the price?


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16824009156


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16824009154

g24


and this one some lyn forummer has it he said he bought it at RM 1380 i think it has 50,000:1 CR built for gaming

so plz give me the prices and contacts if possible and where to get them i think i am gonna buy a monitor in Christmas time and lets hope Sammy, Ace and LG or at least LG produce 22 inch FULL HD monitors"




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So what do you anticipated us to respond you?"Im gonna get it" or "Nice monitor here"?
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@ Riddhy nt dn wan reply you , is really no comment

btw anyone know which lyn got bring in M2400 benq monitor??
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Nov 6 2008, 12:16 AM)
Yeah, it is perfect for movies & gaming. I'm a gamer.
No ghosting issue, it's pretty fast & beautiful quality of pictures.
Not glossy screen.
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whopps...nice nice....thanks alot for the confirmation bro rclxm9.gif

gonna sapu it this pc fair...cos dell always promo during pc fair drool.gif drool.gif

@minghao
actaully i really had that problem with sp2208wfp last time after one week of usage n i returned it to dell sweat.gif

dont know whther unit faulty or what sweat.gif
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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Nov 6 2008, 12:38 PM)
I've been wondering, what kind of content do you watch mostly? 720p? 1080p? or SD...
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HD 1080p biggrin.gif
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Just ordered Dell S2409 .... How long does it takes normally for Dell to send it to my home ?
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mine got in 4 biz days rclxms.gif
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anyone here saw the price for T2200HD?
someone said that it was selling for RM605 at thundermatch.
That monitor looks nice to me. thinking of getting that.
got any advatages or disadvantages if i get a HD capable screen?
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maybe your DVD movie will look washed out. 720p and 1080p will look very nice. Your graphic card need to be powerful to handle the 1920x1080 resolution if you play games. But for browsing and work, very nice cause bigger area to work with.
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8800GT can handle games at that reso? but definately not at the most highest settings rite? also a bit worried my proc not powerful enough.
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QUOTE(accs_centre @ Nov 5 2008, 05:49 PM)
LCD Monitor is best for desktop usage..
U may use LCD TV for HTPC purpose or movie viewing only.. For long hour surfing, gaming and office works, still need proper designed LCD monitor..
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QUOTE(chanws8 @ Nov 5 2008, 06:50 PM)
Ya, agree...Somemore lcd monitor is cheaper than lcd tv
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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Nov 5 2008, 07:25 PM)
lcd TV got the TV tuner and connection which u dont need for desktop use. Furthermore, the image will look pixelated because the size is big but the reslution is less.
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QUOTE(qwerty79 @ Nov 5 2008, 10:41 PM)
For desktop, use LCD monitor. LCD monitor is more suitable for internet and daily usage. For normal 32" with HD ready, the resolution only 1360 X 768, smaller than 17" lcd monitor.  The text is readable but not nice. Although with large screen, your desktop space is smaller. But if you more money, I believe there are 22" inch lcd tv model out there. The price... well as expected very expensive.
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Indeed...LCD monitor is more suitable for desktop...but for a long hour of gaming and surfing, i'm just afraid of overheating and burned off... sweat.gif
That what makes me to consider LCD TV which i think more durable..but as you guys mentioned, the resolution is low and I dont like that neither..

So, after considering your opinion....the choice is LCD monitor icon_rolleyes.gif

Thanks a lot guys.. notworthy.gif
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is there any website show that what is the minimum requirement to use 24' or 22' lcd?
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in the view of recently some 22" LCD price drop remarkably ...i was wondering is this the best time to get a 22", or wait 1st cos the price might goes down further soon ,says end of the month/next month ?...wat do u think
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Guys, I'd like to ask; is anyone here using a DVI-D Dual Link cable?

I bought that cable sometime ago and tried it on my LCD, but there's no input. I then went to my friend's place to try on his Dell 17" monitor and too no input detected.

I then decided to send it back to the forumer i bought it from; ngbh. He tested the cable and now says that it's working on his monitor.

What in the world is going on? Is there a possibility that me and my friend's monitor don't support Dual Link cables?

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tkh_1001, this e2409 is not comparable to e2407 as both a different Panel, TN panel usually wont not spot Ghosting problem as the respond time is quite fast and they do not need extreme overdrive technology iianm

overall it is good for me, but so far i use it for a few days only i said, as i;m not around most of the time recently.
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Hye guys,

which 24" LCD monitor better ?

BenQ E2400HD vs Dell S2409W ?



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QUOTE(desmond1310 @ Nov 7 2008, 03:32 PM)
Guys, I'd like to ask; is anyone here using a DVI-D Dual Link cable?

I bought that cable sometime ago and tried it on my LCD, but there's no input. I then went to my friend's place to try on his Dell 17" monitor and too no input detected.

I then decided to send it back to the forumer i bought it from; ngbh. He tested the cable and now says that it's working on his monitor.

What in the world is going on? Is there a possibility that me and my friend's monitor don't support Dual Link cables?

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QUOTE(LExus65 @ Nov 7 2008, 04:00 PM)
tkh_1001, this e2409 is not comparable to e2407 as both a different Panel, TN panel usually wont not spot Ghosting problem as the respond time is quite fast and they do not need extreme overdrive technology iianm

overall it is good for me, but so far i use it for a few days only i said, as i;m not around most of the time recently.
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QUOTE(wcliang @ Nov 7 2008, 12:11 PM)
in the view of recently some 22" LCD price drop remarkably ...i was wondering is this the best time to get a 22", or wait 1st cos the price might goes down further soon ,says end of the month/next month ?...wat do u think
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QUOTE(desmond1310 @ Nov 7 2008, 03:32 PM)
Guys, I'd like to ask; is anyone here using a DVI-D Dual Link cable?

I bought that cable sometime ago and tried it on my LCD, but there's no input. I then went to my friend's place to try on his Dell 17" monitor and too no input detected.

I then decided to send it back to the forumer i bought it from; ngbh. He tested the cable and now says that it's working on his monitor.

What in the world is going on? Is there a possibility that me and my friend's monitor don't support Dual Link cables?

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have u changed the input of ur monitor.....as in selecting the input signal?

sometimes, the LCD won't be able to auto detect input signals, cases like when u were running the analog connector(D connector) for a while, then when u upgrade the cable to DVI connector, the LCD may not be able to switch automatically.

U would have to go to ur OSD menu and change...on Dell LCDs, there's a button to scan the signals...analogue(D) or digital(DVI/HDMI) signals and display appropriately...

AFAIK la...


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QUOTE(rd33 @ Nov 7 2008, 06:30 PM)
Hye guys,

which 24" LCD monitor better ?

BenQ E2400HD vs Dell S2409W ?
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I would choose Dell s2409 coz Dell is doing promotion now..You even can get instant cash redemption if you buy online..
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QUOTE(rd33 @ Nov 7 2008, 06:30 PM)
Hye guys,

which 24" LCD monitor better ?

BenQ E2400HD vs Dell S2409W ?
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I've look at the BenQ one in lowyat.. decided to grab one home as I don't want my new rig to stick with my 15inch lcd.. But after looking at the monitor over and over again ... finally decided to go with Dell.. order it at night after went home ... order at Wednesday night and they message me on Friday morning saying the item will arrive to me on Saturday around 9am to 2pm .. that is fast...
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QUOTE(selinix @ Nov 8 2008, 01:33 AM)
I've look at the BenQ one in lowyat.. decided to grab one home as I don't want my new rig to stick with my 15inch lcd.. But after looking at the monitor over and over again ... finally decided to go with Dell.. order it at night after went home ... order at Wednesday night and they message me on Friday morning saying the item will arrive to me on Saturday around 9am to 2pm .. that is fast...
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What model you order? Does Dell offers instant cash redemption?
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wat brand of monitor ..model ?

graphic card is what wor?
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4850 and Sony 17".

QUOTE(ravewar @ Nov 8 2008, 12:21 AM)
have u changed the input of ur monitor.....as in selecting the input signal?

sometimes, the LCD won't be able to auto detect input signals, cases like when u were running the analog connector(D connector) for a while, then when u upgrade the cable to DVI connector, the LCD may not be able to switch automatically.

U would have to go to ur OSD menu and change...on Dell LCDs, there's a button to scan the signals...analogue(D) or digital(DVI/HDMI) signals and display appropriately...

AFAIK la...
if i'm wrong, very sorry...can't help.... whistling.gif
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Mine also has that button.. I button-mashed it but it can't scan for inputs. It will just be a blank screen with the monitor status thingy. Haha thanks for the insight. I've yet to try a Single Link Cable into my monitor though.
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QUOTE(chanws8 @ Nov 8 2008, 01:41 AM)
What model you order? Does Dell offers instant cash redemption?
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S2409W... Just receive it around 1pm ++ today ... The price posted in the website is all after cash redemption already
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Just bought a HP w2448hc LCD Monitor...

This monitor very "Cun" one... thumbup.gif

very satisfied and happy today hehe... rclxm9.gif

anyway do u guys know how to use the audio from the LCD ? can i plug in the headset thru the LCD ?



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I have some questions

Whats the Difference between Dynamic Contrast Ratio and Contrast Ratio in LCD Monitors??

I looked at the specs of BENQ T2200HD and E2200HD its contrast ratio is 1000:1 very sad and dynamic constrast ratio is 10,000:1 they are full hd

I ALSO looked Acers 22 inch FULL HD its contrast ratio is 20,000:1 and its 199 usd in USA
contrast ratio is good for gaming so is the benQ HD are good??? only 1000:1 CR


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Found this site.

Digital Versus

Doesn't have all the latest panels, but does contain quite a number of those 22" under Rm700.

And this site does let you download some calibrated profiles as well.

Calibration Profile


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i go samsung website check my lcd tv panel life is 60,000 Hrs
mean can use up to 2500day = 6.8year+

anyone can guide me to check my Panel ?
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Hey all, just noticed something weird with my 2253BW, when looking at it at a 90 degree angle, the text at the bottom for some reason does not have yellowish color ( when it is supposed to ) and when I lower my head down to look at the same spot, the yellow color is there. If you guys are wondering what I'm talking about, it's when a video upoader responds to comments on his video on youtube, his name will be highlighted in yellow right? So in my case, his comments on the top of the screen will be highlighted, while the ones on the bottom looks like every other comment ( if I look downwards to it) and when I scroll down, and the comments that were originally at the btm comes up, the yellow highlight gradually appears again. Is it the viewing angle problem or what? Anyone else has this issue?
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QUOTE(Riddhy @ Nov 8 2008, 07:28 PM)
I have some questions

Whats the Difference between Dynamic Contrast Ratio and Contrast Ratio in LCD Monitors??

I looked at the specs of BENQ T2200HD and E2200HD its contrast ratio is 1000:1 very sad and dynamic constrast ratio is 10,000:1 they are full hd

I ALSO looked Acers 22 inch FULL HD its contrast ratio is 20,000:1 and its 199 usd in USA
contrast ratio is good for gaming so is the benQ HD are good??? only 1000:1 CR


Added on November 8, 2008, 7:36 pmhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009157
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one ques frm lcd noob here..

i js bought a new LCD (LG W1952TQ),
whn i went b home n run it, i found 24dots small blue dots on the right bottom of my screen when the background is black colour, if white it gone, and it only occur whn the resolution of 1440x900 and the area background is black or certain colour.. why tis hapen and wats tat?

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QUOTE(jihchuan @ Nov 9 2008, 11:45 AM)
one ques frm lcd noob here..

i js bought a new LCD (LG W1952TQ),
whn i went b home n run it, i found 24dots small blue dots on the right bottom of my screen when the background is black colour, if white it gone, and it only occur whn the resolution of 1440x900 and the area background is black or certain colour.. why tis hapen and wats tat?

im stil hvnt send b to the shop(thunder match) coz its a litl inconvenient la..
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maybe they are dead pixel, you should go back to thundermatch and change it.....
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@jihchuan:

If I'm not wrong, those are stuck pixels. Dead pixels won't even change colours, it will just be dead and shows black pixels. I advise you to return it to Thundermatch and ask for another unit. 24 stuck pixels looks bad. sweat.gif Or you could to try rub those pixels/use a software to see if it helps to unstuck them. Hope it helps. smile.gif

Btw, does anyone knows anywhere selling the BenQ FP241VW? How much is it? Thanks.

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Hi guys,

I have some issue with my moniter....

The Model is Dell 1907FP

I tried Both VGA and DVI connecters...

Whenever I play a game....there is a short flicker (About 0.2 sec) appearing at random momments.

And My Moniter kinda auto-refreshed itself while in desktop.

Tried 60Hz to 75HZ refresh rate,

I think is not my GC issue cuz I RMA'ed my 4850 and still have the same issue.



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what game u playing? u try a few games 1st....i also got short flickered when playing PES09,

if the game support v-sycn, try to enable it, maybe will help solve the short flickered prob
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QUOTE(king99 @ Nov 9 2008, 12:27 PM)
Hi guys,

I have some issue with my moniter....

The Model is Dell 1907FP

I tried Both VGA and DVI connecters...

Whenever I play a game....there is a short flicker (About 0.2 sec) appearing at random momments.

And My Moniter kinda auto-refreshed itself while in desktop.

Tried 60Hz to 75HZ refresh rate,

I think is not my GC issue cuz I RMA'ed my 4850 and still have the same issue.
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Does it happen for all games or particular? During gaming only? What about movies?
I used this monitor before but never experience with this kind of problem.
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Does it happen for all games or particular? During gaming only? What about movies?
I used this monitor before but never experience with this kind of problem.
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Well....I never watch movie in my comp before....

It hard to say for games.....it just happened randomly for all the games.
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QUOTE(Aquanox28 @ Nov 9 2008, 12:19 PM)
@jihchuan:

If I'm not wrong, those are stuck pixels. Dead pixels won't even change colours, it will just be dead and shows black pixels. I advise you to return it to Thundermatch and ask for another unit. 24 stuck pixels looks bad.  sweat.gif  Or you could to try rub those pixels/use a software to see if it helps to unstuck them.  Hope it helps. smile.gif
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thx!! n i found software n confirmed it shud b stuck pixels, nw js w8 n hope d software can fix it so i no nid go b thundermatch wit carry a LCD.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(king99 @ Nov 9 2008, 12:27 PM)
Hi guys,

I have some issue with my moniter....

The Model is Dell 1907FP

I tried Both VGA and DVI connecters...

Whenever I play a game....there is a short flicker (About 0.2 sec) appearing at random momments.

And My Moniter kinda auto-refreshed itself while in desktop.

Tried 60Hz to 75HZ refresh rate,

I think is not my GC issue cuz I RMA'ed my 4850 and still have the same issue.
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are you running the game at non-native resolution?
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QUOTE(Aquanox28 @ Nov 9 2008, 12:19 PM)
@jihchuan:

If I'm not wrong, those are stuck pixels. Dead pixels won't even change colours, it will just be dead and shows black pixels. I advise you to return it to Thundermatch and ask for another unit. 24 stuck pixels looks bad.  sweat.gif  Or you could to try rub those pixels/use a software to see if it helps to unstuck them.  Hope it helps. smile.gif

Btw, does anyone knows anywhere selling the BenQ FP241VW? How much is it? Thanks.
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BenQ FP241VW no production anymore, only new 24" model such as G2400WD, E2400HD, etc..well thats TN panel anyway. The BenQ FP241VW is using the S-IPS panel.
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Nov 9 2008, 03:28 PM)
are you running the game at non-native resolution?
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I'm running @ 1240 x 1024.....Thats the native for 17ich non wide moniter right ?
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thinking to change my lcd which would u guys recommend ... 24 or 22 .... ?? im gaming n movie onli..
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thinking to change my lcd which would u guys recommend ... 24 or 22 .... ?? im gaming n movie onli..
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Dell 2408FWP UltraSharp smile.gif
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2409 dell =DD
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Dell 2409 Not Really Good For Gaming smile.gif

It's Normal Panel..

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QUOTE(pyangaox @ Nov 9 2008, 03:49 PM)
thinking to change my lcd which would u guys recommend ... 24 or 22 .... ?? im gaming n movie onli..
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22 is enough. icon_rolleyes.gif

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waaaa that 1.. 2.6k la... very exp.. =(
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I saw a lot LCD monitor drop until RM689~RM699... is time to get 1 now.
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QUOTE(pyangaox @ Nov 9 2008, 03:49 PM)
thinking to change my lcd which would u guys recommend ... 24 or 22 .... ?? im gaming n movie onli..
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go for 24" LCD monitor, sure u won't regret especially if u r into gaming and movie...
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samsung launch 2 new lcd 2233bw and 2433bw, contrast ration is 20,000
anybody know 2433bw price, 2233bw is RM770
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2233bw = 770 ringgit with contrast ration of 20 K.. .wow.... that is cheap compared to the T series.... what is the price of 2433bw.... damn since when samsung know how to do cheap stuff... when is it in malaysia
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QUOTE(tellmewhy @ Nov 9 2008, 05:00 PM)
waaaa that 1.. 2.6k la... very exp.. =(
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Should Be Around RM1850+/-
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QUOTE(mdzaboy @ Nov 9 2008, 03:43 PM)
BenQ FP241VW no production anymore, only new 24" model such as G2400WD, E2400HD, etc..well thats TN panel anyway. The BenQ FP241VW is using the S-IPS panel.
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Really? That's a letdown. People in the hardforum are using them and most of them gave good feedback on it. However, this model does not use S-IPS panel. If I'm wrong it uses MVA panel instead.
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RM1.8K for a 24" monitor! haha. I dun care if its made of diamond, no one should pay that kinda price for a computer monitor!
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QUOTE(Aquanox28 @ Nov 9 2008, 10:00 PM)
Really? That's a letdown. People in the hardforum are using them and most of them gave good feedback on it. However, this model does not use S-IPS panel. If I'm wrong it uses MVA panel instead.
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yea..i wanna get that model..ohh bout the panel last time benq use 2 model of 24", FP241VW n FP241WZ, i think last time they use the SIPS panel later MVA panel.
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cant get already lohh.. the model not out anymore i ask my friend she say not sales anymore.... is bad...
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hi, will PC Fair time, 24" at 60MYR range? Thanks

which is the best option for 600MYR range? Thanks

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hi, will PC Fair time, 24" at 60MYR range? Thanks

which is the best option for 600MYR range? Thanks
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24" for RM 600 ? its impossible la, even pcfair time they will not sell 24" for RM 600...

for RM 600 budget u can buy 22" LCD monitor only...
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anyone in here using the Dell S2409W 24" Widescreen Flat Panel Monitor? I'm planning on getting it. Can anyone give some comments bout it?
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QUOTE(shawn2k4 @ Nov 10 2008, 04:24 AM)
anyone in here using the Dell S2409W 24" Widescreen Flat Panel Monitor? I'm planning on getting it. Can anyone give some comments bout it?
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Search for "S2409W" in this thread bro. I'm using it right now. nod.gif
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QUOTE(mitodna @ Nov 10 2008, 01:55 AM)
hi, will PC Fair time, 24" at 60MYR range? Thanks

which is the best option for 600MYR range? Thanks
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You can't get 24" with that budget. PC Fair price is not that cheap. I think what best about PC Fair is free gift. The price not different from Low Yat.
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QUOTE(g5sim @ Nov 9 2008, 10:45 PM)
RM1.8K for a 24" monitor! haha. I dun care if its made of diamond, no one should pay that kinda price for a computer monitor!
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Those Hardcore Gamer Not Mind Paying That Amount For A Quality LCD smile.gif

I'm Targeting Dell 3008FWP
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QUOTE(studwo @ Nov 9 2008, 08:46 PM)
2233bw = 770 ringgit with contrast ration of 20 K.. .wow.... that is cheap compared to the T series.... what  is the price of 2433bw.... damn since when samsung know how to do cheap stuff... when is it in malaysia
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CEX has it for RM810.

But i'm jumping into it since there's no reviews on it.

This thing has about the same design as the TOC series, albeit with 5ms, but it does come with a VESA mount.

Now I'm in a headache of whether to go for it, or go for the T220.
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which samsung 22" lcd monitor is recommended?

2232BW, 2243LNX, 2243LWX, 2253BW, 2253LW, 226BW, T220?
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T220 has 2ms and 20K contrast ratio and the frame is freaking-awesome nice. just like it's LCD TV series. smile.gif
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QUOTE(babywsh18 @ Nov 10 2008, 02:33 PM)
which samsung 22" lcd monitor is recommended?

2232BW, 2243LNX, 2243LWX, 2253BW, 2253LW, 226BW, T220?
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t220 is definitely my choice.


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tkh_1001, sorry for the late reply, being quite tight up lately.....

so far i dun have complain for 2409, it quite good infact for my view...just only the price tag is slightly high for a monitor since 22" can be purchase for around RM700, a bit different


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no problem bro..... i had bought it already anyways laugh.gif

cause wana try the 1080 feel tongue.gif

price tag i am happy with it cos even t220 is 1k .... so this monitor kinda worth imho....
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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Nov 10 2008, 07:29 PM)
no problem bro..... i had bought it already anyways laugh.gif

cause wana try the 1080 feel tongue.gif

price tag i am happy with it cos even t220 is 1k .... so this monitor kinda worth imho....
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@tkh_1001,

congrats on ur dell purchase. 24" lcd for just ard rm1k...

arrgghh... cry.gif ....i'm also waiting for my lcd deal to materialize....though different model....
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regret buying 2253BW last time...haiz
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QUOTE(bboyspirit @ Nov 11 2008, 01:15 AM)
regret buying 2253BW last time...haiz
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Nov 10 2008, 07:45 PM)
Congrats bro.  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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@tkh_1001,

congrats on ur dell purchase. 24" lcd for just ard rm1k...

arrgghh... cry.gif ....i'm also waiting for my lcd deal to materialize....though different model....
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everything based on your budget. you can go for BW series. t220 still above RM 1000
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T220HD will be coming soon
don't know whether malaysia got sale or not hmm.gif
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Hi All,

Im totally new here.

Im using Asus 9600GT,
wanna ask some question
1) Is there any different in graphic performance & CPU performance if i use 22" lcd monitor and 24" monitor? can I say the smaller LCD the better the performance?
2) For guys who owned 24" lcd, may i know your experience? izzit too big for gaming & surfing? i mean u have to bend your neck from side to side when using pc.

I still thinking which size to buy, ranged RM1k
Thank you in advance

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For those who love the design of T220 but cant afford it,u may check out the new 2233BW from Samsung,jus RM770.With very good spec ,20000:1 contrast;5ms response time.

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Here in kuching, 2233BW can get RM 799. I know it's a little bit expensive, but that's the cheapest we can get here. tongue.gif

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Hi,everyone
I need a lcd suggestion for my pc and ps2(yes is ps2 not 3)
24", about RM1000, and S-video line-in for ps2
I think Hanton H-620WHB should be the best choise, but...
Is it possible buy it in malaysia?
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QUOTE(masakisl @ Nov 11 2008, 11:34 AM)
Hi,everyone
I need a lcd suggestion for my pc and ps2(yes is ps2 not 3)
24", about RM1000, and S-video line-in for ps2
I think Hanton H-620WHB should be the best choise, but...
Is it possible buy it in malaysia?
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QUOTE(masakisl @ Nov 11 2008, 11:34 AM)
Hi,everyone
I need a lcd suggestion for my pc and ps2(yes is ps2 not 3)
24", about RM1000, and S-video line-in for ps2
I think Hanton H-620WHB should be the best choise, but...
Is it possible buy it in malaysia?
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Never heard about it. btw why choose strange brand instead famous brand in market
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http://shopping.pchome.com.tw/?m=item&f=ex...52&SR_NO=DGAB0S

you can see it here.
I like it for the multiple line-in, MVA panel
And the price, it should be about RM1000 if sold in malaysia
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If I Use HDMI For Dell 3008 ( Havent Bought ) , Will The Screen Be Smaller Abit? Not Full Screen?

Coz I Tried On My 47" LCD, It Can't Be Full Screen.. Then I Use VGA Cable To Connect
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QUOTE(xk2 @ Nov 11 2008, 10:34 AM)
For those who love the design of T220 but cant afford it,u may check out the new 2233BW from Samsung,jus RM770.With very good spec ,20000:1 contrast;5ms response time.
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T220 vs. 2233BW
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BenQ multimedia serie E2200HD 1980 x 1080 native response. 2ms gray to gray. HDMI 1.3. Below RM720. Officially available in Lowyat smile.gif check the 22" and 24" thread for more details wink.gif

T2200HD = >RM699

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Go for HP, sure will satisfied u  rolleyes.gif
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Without any reviews on the 2233bw, it's very hard to decide on it. I have since opted for the T220 instead.
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In case Samsung 32" FHD (Full High Defination) Lcd LA32A550 = RM 2320 with 1 year warranty, with below features compare with Dell 2408WFP = RM1530 1 week warranty / RM2650 with 3 years warranty, which should I upgrade ?

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QUOTE(cinbao @ Nov 11 2008, 04:40 PM)
In case Samsung 32" FHD (Full High Defination) Lcd LA32A550 = RM 2320 with 1 year warranty, with below features compare with Dell 2408WFP = RM1530 1 week warranty / RM2650 with 3 years warranty, which should I upgrade ?

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for gaming consoles i'd say lcd tv
pc use, 24" will b better, coz u nid sharper(smaller dot pitch) to view texts
2408wfp will do fine in gaming too, and its spva panel
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WideXGA+ 1440 x 900 LCD (720p)
WideUXGA 1920 x 1200 LCD (1200p) with Clearview Technology

Is it worth it to upgrade from the first one to the second one? Is Clearview Technology that good?
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anyone got LG L245WP-BN?
it have Component Video Connector =/= AV Video Connector
and two extra usb port
the onlything suffering me is 2000:1 contrast
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I wonder why need high dynamic contrast? I try once, but the brightness is to much.
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Guys..i've decided to get the benq E2400HD for my ps3,but do u think that it's more than enough if i settle for E2200HD or the E2400HD is a better option..
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hi guys
am quite noob about monitors
i'm using AOC LCD 19"
anyone noe how to set it into a correct color display?
i'm a graphic designer so what i see in LCD is not really as accurate in what i get in CRT
is there anyway to set it close to what i see in CRT?
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Well, it is up to you. Extra 2 inch for 1199 - 720 = 479?
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For PS3, bigger is better because with gamepad you will sit farther from your monitor. But as the price difference is almost RM500, better get 22" only. Small screen but higher resolution.
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I just noticed the E2200HD is 21.5", so make that 2.5" lol.
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QUOTE(justone @ Nov 11 2008, 04:48 PM)
for gaming consoles i'd say lcd tv
pc use, 24" will b better, coz u nid sharper(smaller dot pitch) to view texts
2408wfp will do fine in gaming too, and its spva panel
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With Full HD 1920 x 1080 resolution, I believe the LCD TV already near parallel with the 2408WFP resolution (1920x1200), SPVA (Vertical Alignment) only improve the viewing angle to 178'c / 178'c & true 24 bits 16.7 millions colors, since this LCD TV also able to provide this viewing angle, with the bigger size of 32' inch that make me think hard why should I chooser Dell 2408WFP instead of this LCD TV.

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Walao so expensive you guys can afford. I'm thinking of BenQ LCD, good ah?
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Nov 11 2008, 05:18 PM)
Well, it is up to you. Extra 2 inch for 1199 - 720 = 479?
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Thanks anyway.. biggrin.gif


QUOTE(qwerty79 @ Nov 11 2008, 05:25 PM)
For PS3, bigger is better because with gamepad you will sit farther from your monitor. But as the price difference is almost RM500, better get 22" only. Small screen but higher resolution.
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Almost forget that i'm using it for my pc aswell..will it affect the size of the text and the icons with 1980X1080 resolution on a 22inch?compared to a 24..
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QUOTE(cinbao @ Nov 11 2008, 05:28 PM)
With Full HD 1920 x 1080 resolution, I believe the LCD TV already near parallel with the 2408WFP resolution (1920x1200), SPVA (Vertical Alignment) only improve the viewing angle to 178'c / 178'c & true 24 bits 18.7 millions colors, since this LCD TV also able to provide this viewing angle, with the bigger size of 32' inch that make me think hard why should I chooser Dell 2408WFP instead of this LCD TV.
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What is the price of the Full HD TV? I believe it will cost more than RM3000.

Full HD TV is very expensive and low resolution if compare to LCD Monitor. If for console game (PS3, XBOX etc) and movies, LCD TV is the best choice, but if you also want to do normal internet surfing, desktop publishing and office work, LCD monitor is the best choice.

Playing console game on small screen is very,very dissatisfying experience. Even with low resolution (tv resolution), when playing game I like my 32" lcd tv more. But for internet, surely no..no... Text to hard to read.


QUOTE(SurFerZ @ Nov 11 2008, 05:37 PM)
Thanks anyway.. biggrin.gif
Almost forget that i'm using it for my pc aswell..will it affect the size of the text and the icons with 1980X1080 resolution on a 22inch?compared to a 24..
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Someone need to confirm this. I also wonder about the text for this HD 22" lcd monitor. The dot pitch must be larger if compare to normal 1650 x 1080. How about the text? But I read that no problem so far.
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QUOTE(cinbao @ Nov 11 2008, 05:28 PM)
With Full HD 1920 x 1080 resolution, I believe the LCD TV already near parallel with the 2408WFP resolution (1920x1200), SPVA (Vertical Alignment) only improve the viewing angle to 178'c / 178'c & true 24 bits 18.7 millions colors, since this LCD TV also able to provide this viewing angle, with the bigger size of 32' inch that make me think hard why should I chooser Dell 2408WFP instead of this LCD TV.
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It all depends on how you use your LCD. If you're using it mostly for PC (Words, surfing web, other stuff that requires you to read a lot of words, and also graphic designing), then you should choose the Dell 2408WFP. Otherwise, if you use it more for gaming or movies, I would suggest you go for the LCD TV. Bigger screen = better experience for Full HD content. biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(SurFerZ @ Nov 11 2008, 05:37 PM)
Thanks anyway.. biggrin.gif
Almost forget that i'm using it for my pc aswell..will it affect the size of the text and the icons with 1980X1080 resolution on a 22inch?compared to a 24..
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The icons and text will definitely be smaller if you use 1920x1080 resolution on a 22". I suggest you to go to a retail store to experience for yourself whether the size of the icons and text are acceptable for you. smile.gif

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Maybe i'll check it out this weekend...if it doesn't affect much i think i'll just aim for the 22"...rm500 is a big difference..
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Hi, any one owned a dell SP2208WFP LCD monitor ? Did u all try using the hdmi cable connect to ur graphic card ? Can the resolution go up to Full HD 1080p ? Thanks for all ur kind comment smile.gif
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QUOTE(qwerty79 @ Nov 11 2008, 05:58 PM)
What is the price of the Full HD TV? I believe it will cost more than RM3000.

Full HD TV is very expensive and low resolution if compare to LCD Monitor. If for console game (PS3, XBOX etc) and movies, LCD TV is the best choice, but if you also want to do normal internet surfing, desktop publishing and office work, LCD monitor is the best choice.

Playing console game on small screen is very,very dissatisfying experience.  Even with low resolution (tv resolution),  when playing game I like my 32" lcd tv more. But for internet, surely no..no... Text to hard to read.
Someone need to confirm this. I also wonder about the text for this HD 22" lcd monitor. The dot pitch must be larger if compare to normal 1650 x 1080. How about the text? But I read that no problem so far.
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Becos I saw an offer 32'inch Full HD TV with RM 2320 with 1 year warranty.

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QUOTE(cinbao @ Nov 11 2008, 06:22 PM)
Becos I saw an offer 32'inch Full HD TV with RM 2320 with 1 year warranty.
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Ha..ha.. really... no wonder you are in between. What brand? RM2320 is cheap for Full HD tv. I'm really far left behind.
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QUOTE(cinbao @ Nov 11 2008, 04:40 PM)
In case Samsung 32" FHD (Full High Defination) Lcd LA32A550 = RM 2320 with 1 year warranty, with below features compare with Dell 2408WFP = RM1530 1 week warranty / RM2650 with 3 years warranty, which should I upgrade ?

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it depends on your usage, if i were you, i'll choose bigger screen anytime for watching movies.
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I wonder why need high dynamic contrast? I try once, but the brightness is to much.
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QUOTE(AwenThong @ Nov 11 2008, 06:13 PM)
Hi, any one owned a dell SP2208WFP LCD monitor ? Did u all try using the hdmi cable connect to ur graphic card ? Can the resolution go up to Full HD 1080p ? Thanks for all ur kind comment  smile.gif
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Hello... I am noob at LCD monitor

1680 x 1050 vs 1920 x 1080 , which one you suggest for a 22" LCD ?

Normally use for online game and movie.
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QUOTE(cinbao @ Nov 11 2008, 05:28 PM)
....... the viewing angle to 178'c / 178'c & true 24 bits 18.7 millions colors, since this LCD TV.....
correction,.... it is 16.7 million colours...
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Hi, for the budget around 600MYR, what is the best option, do not mind to top up a little more thanks
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Hi, for the budget around 600MYR, what is the best option, do not mind to top up a little more thanks
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How many inches you are looking for ??

If 22" i think the LG W2242T suits your budget ... Can get it for RM599 in lowyat plaza
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Ha..ha.. really... no wonder you are in between. What brand? RM2320 is cheap for Full HD tv. I'm really far left behind.
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Samsung LA32A550 http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/504436

good price, make me drolling.
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Benq E2200HD VS E2400HD
Which is better if i'm need a monitor for gaming on my ps3 and for pc aswell?
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Anyone who care... pls answer my quetion

Im using Asus 9600GT,
wanna ask some question
1) Is there any different in graphic performance & CPU performance if i use 22" lcd monitor and 24" monitor? can I say the smaller LCD the better the computer performance?
2) For guys who owned 24" lcd, may i know your experience? izzit too big for gaming & surfing? i mean u have to bend your neck from side to side when using pc.


thank you smile.gif
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QUOTE(SurFerZ @ Nov 12 2008, 12:05 AM)
Benq E2200HD VS E2400HD
Which is better if i'm need a monitor for gaming on my ps3 and for pc aswell?
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Both is ok for your type of usage. However, you really need to know if you are comfortable with the smaller icons and text on the 22". I myself on the other hand, thinks that gaming on a bigger screen enhances your gaming experience. Happy deciding. smile.gif

QUOTE(xenon_aniki @ Nov 12 2008, 09:32 AM)
Anyone who care... pls answer my quetion

Im using Asus 9600GT,
wanna ask some question
1) Is there any different in graphic performance & CPU performance if i use 22" lcd monitor and 24" monitor? can I say the smaller LCD the better the computer performance?
2) For guys who owned 24" lcd, may i know your experience? izzit too big for gaming & surfing? i mean u have to bend your neck from side to side when using pc.
thank you smile.gif
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1) There will definitely be some performance drop if you use a larger 24" as there are more pixels for your GC to process. So, yes you can say so.
2) I believe it won't be too big. Just put it at a suitable distance from your sitting position, then your won't have to turn your head just to view from one side to the other side of the LCD when using the pc.

Hope my description helps you. smile.gif
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Thank you Aquanox!! rclxms.gif thumbup.gif

Your comment help me much in deciding to go for 22" or 24"

I hope my GC is not too old to generate graphic on 24". Wanna buy LCD monitor maybe end of this year.

additional question, Izzit my GC still support high-end games like GRID & COH on 24"? Im now use 17" monitor and they are doing very well cool2.gif

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QUOTE(Aquanox28 @ Nov 12 2008, 10:44 AM)
Both is ok for your type of usage. However, you really need to know if you are comfortable with the smaller icons and text on the 22". I myself on the other hand, thinks that gaming on a bigger screen enhances your gaming experience. Happy deciding.  smile.gif
Thnaks bro...i think i'll think wisely before i go for the 22" or the 24" monitor.. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(SurFerZ @ Nov 12 2008, 11:48 AM)
Thnaks bro...i think i'll think wisely before i go for the 22" or the 24" monitor.. biggrin.gif
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Go for 24" n u wont regret thumbup.gif

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Have money, go for 24". If not, 22" is ok. 22" for RM6++ is a value for money.
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QUOTE(qwerty79 @ Nov 12 2008, 02:04 PM)
Have money, go for 24". If not, 22" is ok. 22" for RM6++ is a value for money.
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where got RM6++, RM5++ nia no HDMI. if you dont do console gaming on the monitor - no need HDMI, HDPC vga or dvi is enuf for hidef video on monitor wink.gif
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Thank you Aquanox!! rclxms.gif  thumbup.gif

Your comment help me much in deciding to go for 22" or 24"

I hope my GC is not too old to generate graphic on 24". Wanna buy LCD monitor maybe end of this year.

additional question, Izzit my GC still support high-end games like GRID & COH on 24"? Im now use 17" monitor and they are doing very well cool2.gif
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where got RM6++, RM5++ nia no HDMI. if you dont do console gaming on the monitor - no need HDMI, HDPC vga or dvi is enuf for hidef video on monitor wink.gif
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can a laptop gb handle 24" lcd well?

i'm planning to buy both after my spm. icon_question.gif
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Any bigger than that probably would feel like you are sitting way in front of a cinema screen.
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looking for 19 / 22/ 24 lcd with 1920 x 1080 reso.. any recommendations..?

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How many inches you are looking for ??

If 22" i think the LG W2242T suits your budget ... Can get it for RM599 in lowyat plaza
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can a laptop gb handle 24" lcd well?

i'm planning to buy both after my spm. icon_question.gif
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I've seen issues on people not being able to set the resolution any higher than the native resolution of the laptop's LCD. So before you try 24", you might want to google it up first. I think Intel is most likely to face this problem.

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hello people...

i'm quite new here...

i'm getting a new gc (gainward 4870 btw)

and i was wondering if any of you guys can recommend me a good 22 inch lcd monitor (no matter what the brand)
with HDMI support.

budget around rm900 (the cheaper the better though)

thank you in advance guys. smile.gif
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E2200HD? 21.5" with full HD resolution and HDMI as well.
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QUOTE(NarutoKiubi @ Nov 13 2008, 03:43 AM)
hello people...

i'm quite new here...

i'm getting a new gc (gainward 4870 btw)

and i was wondering if any of you guys can recommend me a good 22 inch lcd monitor (no matter what the brand)
with HDMI support.

budget around rm900 (the cheaper the better though)

thank you in advance guys. smile.gif
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if u can afford high end graphic cards... better use 24" onwards for maximum enjoyment.... biggrin.gif
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wonder where to get cause check all the price list from lowyat.net all unavailable for that model.

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E2200HD? 21.5" with full HD resolution and HDMI as well.
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the price my friend???
contrast ratio??


to ravewar...

yeah.. since i bought the cg... me no money... tongue.gif

but u got to understand...i personally don't need such a big monitor...
plus i stated my budget range right???
900myr doesn't get me a good 24'' monitor..
or does it??? hmm.gif
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@narutokuibi,

add abit more, you could get the dell 2409....there're afew forumers here using this model...check their feedbacks...all quoted as good, or at least acceptable...

if i'm not mistaken, dell's selling ard rm10xx....so it's not so far compared to ur budget....

since u could get 4870... biggrin.gif ....not to "cha" u la...but with the 4870, might as well go for 24" straight away...as now the norm is 22"....24" would be a sweet spot...for alot of work functions, such as spreadsheets, gaming, etc...

my 22" can "almost" open 2 spreadsheets side by side...but still not really displaying the "full" view....not cukup "ooommppphhh".... tongue.gif

for 24", i believe one can view 2 simultaneously...and nicely....

check out dell la...

or other models for that matter...i'm sure u wouldn't regret it....don't believe...ask the otais here who's using 24"....hehe

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NarutoKiubi, 10000:1 dynamic contrast and less than RM720 according to forumers. I have not found any in my area yet though.

^ that E2200HD has 1920x1080 resolution as well, so there's a lot of working space there too.
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Question: What Static & Dynamic contrast u all think is enough for gaming & movie?

Question: E2200HD is 2ms?
Full HD & HDMI all include & the price also quite cheap, so nice...
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Specs from the website states that is it 2ms GTG.
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May i know wat is means by GTG? Because i c the spec is in Response Time 5ms/ 2 ms(GTG), i noob in LCD...lol
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O, notice the different between E and T is E is HDMI , but both is 16 by 9 wor, is 16 by 10 is better.
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hey compare 2409 with e2400hd with 1 better? =DD
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QUOTE(Edward1230 @ Nov 13 2008, 01:04 PM)
May i know wat is means by GTG? Because i c the spec is in Response Time  5ms/ 2 ms(GTG), i noob in LCD...lol
grey to grey... grey pixel to (white/black) and back to grey.

Response time.. I would say refer to a full pixel cycle(full pixel twist 0 to 90 and back to 0 degrees).... Black to Full White and back to Black (or W to B to W).
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Any recommendations of 22" LCD?

DVI port is definitely needed. Will be used mainly for internet usage and occasional gaming and movies.

Budget of around RM600-700. Noticed that Samsung 2253LW fits within my budget but not sure how is the performance of the unit and also would be open to more suggestions of other models. smile.gif
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what is the minimum dimension of LCD that support HDMI input? and the price too
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QUOTE(Edward1230 @ Nov 13 2008, 01:04 PM)
May i know wat is means by GTG? Because i c the spec is in Response Time  5ms/ 2 ms(GTG), i noob in LCD...lol
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GTG = got to go??? tongue.gif

oh yeah...i'm really fine with the lcd that was recommended by celciuz...

great guy to respond so damn fast.

i dont need the 'sweet spot'...

i juz wanna game...

that's all....

so i thnik 22'' with HDMI support (since the 4870 got the port..y not use it right???) is fine for me...

thanks for ur suggestions though...

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LCD TV or LCD monitor price will be dropping a lot.If you all can wait till next year.

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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Three major electronics manufacturers have agreed to plead guilty to a price-fixing conspiracy and pay $585 million in criminal fines for their roles in the pricing of LCD display panels, the Justice Department said Wednesday.

The department announced the plea agreement following a settlement with Sharp Corp. of Japan; LG Display Co. (LPL) of South Korea and Chunghwa Picture Tubes of Taiwan.

The plea deals were filed in U.S. District Court in San Francisco, California, and announced by Thomas Barnett, Assistant Attorney General for Antitrust at the Justice Department in Washington.

"These price-fixing conspiracies affected millions of American consumers who use computers, cell phones and numerous other household electronics every day," said Barnett. He declined to estimate losses stemming from the price fixing, but said he expected to provide some measure of the damages when the corporations are sentenced.
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Look like BenQ E series for 22" is good buy, but, at 16 by 9, still don't know where sell BenQ cheap
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QUOTE(mitodna @ Nov 13 2008, 07:36 PM)
By the way, how much is Hdmi cable, where to get? Thanks.
Look like BenQ E series for 22" is good buy, but, at 16 by 9, still don't know where sell BenQ cheap
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I bought the cheapest 2m HDMI cable from Carefour for RM24.50 only.
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Thanks.
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By the way, how much is Hdmi cable, where to get? Thanks.
Look like BenQ E series for 22" is good buy, but, at 16 by 9, still don't know where sell BenQ cheap
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QUOTE(blindbox @ Nov 12 2008, 10:44 PM)
What do you mean by gb? Graphic board?

I've seen issues on people not being able to set the resolution any higher than the native resolution of the laptop's LCD. So before you try 24", you might want to google it up first. I think Intel is most likely to face this problem.
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will do some research right after my spm. tongue.gif
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Can anyone checked? Last I self-survey for 19'' monitor and found G900W BenQ at quite cheap price. Later I found out that the monitor display height felt like 1 cm shorter compare to other similar product with the width the same after some rough measurement using my arm at the shops. Probably it's just me, but can anyone clarify on the matter?

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one question.. i just got my HP w2228h 22" Monitor.. okay, the display is nice.
The scenario is like this,

1. when the pc is on, my monitor is not making any noises.
2. when i shutdown / sleep the pc, the monitor will make a screeching noise that is very faint if you're 1 meters away. if im sitting at the chair, the noise can be heard.
3. another thing is, i get headache when im near the cpu.
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QUOTE(xelnamikaze @ Nov 14 2008, 11:35 AM)
one question.. i just got my HP w2228h 22" Monitor.. okay, the display is nice.
The scenario is like this,

1. when the pc is on, my monitor is not making any noises.
2. when i shutdown / sleep the pc, the monitor will make a screeching noise that is very faint if you're 1 meters away. if im sitting at the chair, the noise can be heard.
3. another thing is, i get headache when im near the cpu.
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1. ok ur monitor looks good here, im also using 1 of the hp monitor but mine is 24"
2. thats little weird, why ur monitor got a screeching noise when turned off? my monitor doesn't have any weird sounds except when i change my "My HP Display" to another mod...
3. maybe u need sometime to adept with large screen monitor..

by the way have u installed all the monitor driver?, maybe the screeching sound appeared coz of you dun install the hp monitor driver yet...
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Anyone seen the BenQ's 22" E2200 (not sure thats the exact code) anywhere yet? i need to get a new monito asap...and whats the price?
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QUOTE(NarutoKiubi @ Nov 13 2008, 11:03 AM)
the price my friend???
contrast ratio??
to ravewar...

yeah.. since i bought the cg... me no money... tongue.gif

but u got to understand...i personally don't need such a big monitor...
plus i stated my budget range right???
900myr doesn't get me a good 24'' monitor..
or does it??? hmm.gif
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hi, u can search in dell website for 22" SP2208WFP, I just bought it from Dell website, it's a very nice monitor, built in 2.0MP webcam, HDMI input, 4 usb ports, Dell TrueLife Technology, Dell TrueColor Technology, good contrast and vibrant colour too rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Holyboyz @ Nov 14 2008, 12:28 PM)
Anyone seen the BenQ's 22" E2200 (not sure thats the exact code) anywhere yet? i need to get a new monito asap...and whats the price?
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If dint compare the price, between Benq E2400HD and DELL Ultra Sharp 2408WFP, which one is better ?? I m looking for better graphic for movie(HD or Blu-Ray) and gaming(PC and Console).
Really confuse about their spec now....E2400HD got 10000:1 DCR, but 2408WFP only got 3000:1 DCR rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(g5sim @ Nov 14 2008, 01:50 PM)
hehe check the other LCD thread. E2200HD = >RM720 at Lowyat
full HD with HDMI 1.3a  blink.gif
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what do you mean dimension? is it reso or the size of monitor?

for minimum requirement for LCD that support HDMI input i suppose is 1920x1020 reso and 22".

I guess the cheapest LCD that hv HDMI and 22" is BenQ E2200W for RM 7xx only
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QUOTE(nakata101 @ Nov 14 2008, 02:36 PM)
If dint compare the price, between Benq E2400HD and DELL Ultra Sharp 2408WFP, which one is better ?? I m looking for better graphic for movie(HD or Blu-Ray) and gaming(PC and Console).
Really confuse about their spec now....E2400HD got 10000:1 DCR, but 2408WFP only got 3000:1 DCR  rclxub.gif
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those DCR are just for markerting gimmick..the benq is a TN panel. Top compare both, the DELL (S-PVA)is my choice anytime
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If you have the budget, the Dell is a better monitor being a VA. Better color reproduction compared to a TN panel. But the price difference quite huge though.
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any lcd monitor have RCA input interface?

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QUOTE(AwenThong @ Nov 14 2008, 01:34 PM)
hi, u can search in dell website for 22" SP2208WFP, I just bought it from Dell website, it's a very nice monitor, built in 2.0MP webcam, HDMI input, 4 usb ports, Dell TrueLife Technology,  Dell TrueColor Technology, good contrast and vibrant colour too rclxms.gif
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so...what ur saying is DELL > BenQ right? shocking.gif
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got my dell s2409w today rclxm9.gif

the monitor color is very nice so far n have no ghosting at all thumbup.gif

one thing i wana complain... the power cable at the back very hard to "tighten" sweat.gif


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Any feedbacks yet from any e2200hd or e2400hd users?eager to know the outcome here..
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there is one demo at Startec, but do not buy first, as Melaka priced E2200HD at RM585, it is just a matter of time, it matter of time to get it at KL
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e2200hd and e2400hd are everywhere. it really easy to find.
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hahahaha = T2200HD = 1080p 22" is now RM560 niah lol lol lol

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If I were to buy a 24" LCD with best bang for buck factor (TN panel ok), which LCD should I be considering? BenQ E2400HD?
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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Nov 15 2008, 01:06 AM)
got my dell s2409w today rclxm9.gif

the monitor color is very nice so far n have no ghosting at all thumbup.gif

one thing i wana complain... the power cable at the back very hard to "tighten" sweat.gif
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boss, finally arrived ar? thumbup.gif

frm feedbacks, the 2409 is definitely good...

as for the power cable or connectors....i believe quite alot of brands also have this issue....my dell oso like that...my acer oso same....wat to do...lcds are thin...very narrow space..... biggrin.gif


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Anyone using BenQ G2400W? How about the image quality? And is it good for artwork, hi-def movies and gaming? Planning to get this Dec.
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After I got my Sammy T220, I realized SD shows doesn't look really bad with the dot pitch of a standard 22".

The 19" my parent's has, has blocky images due to the bigger dot pitch. Has anyone compared how SD content look on 22" and 24" monitors before?

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there is one demo at Startec, but do not buy first, as Melaka priced E2200HD at RM585, it is just a matter of time, it matter of time to get it at KL
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E2200HD is RM585 in Melaka? Which shop? I'm interested! Btw, I surfed to the global benq website, there's 2 type of E2200HD, one with HDMI one without @@. Even the T2200HD has 2 type, one with DVI one only VGA lol.
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Yup, Navotech Technology Sdn.Bhd. (Stygix Distribution is a Subsidary Company Of Navotech) according one pricelist posted here.

greatly appreciate you can verify one
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QUOTE(ravewar @ Nov 15 2008, 09:47 PM)
boss, finally arrived ar?  thumbup.gif

frm feedbacks, the 2409 is definitely good...

as for the power cable or connectors....i believe quite alot of brands also have this issue....my dell oso like that...my acer oso same....wat to do...lcds are thin...very narrow space..... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Nov 15 2008, 11:11 PM)
E2200HD is RM585 in Melaka? Which shop? I'm interested! Btw, I surfed to the global benq website, there's 2 type of E2200HD, one with HDMI one without @@. Even the T2200HD has 2 type, one with DVI one only VGA lol.
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Hmm will go and check out the E2200HD at Stygix when I'm nearby there. Somehow I think it is the T2200HD instead. Probably some typo though. The price is close to T2200HD's.
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just order dell 2409, this lcd has come wif DVI cable?
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which model 24" LCD is the best
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i just got a LGW2252TQ 22" mon from ALL IT last week. at only RM625 for a 22" mon, it was a steal.

but then, i realised something wasn't right wit it. the edges of the screen would be brighter (like when i watch a movie wit cinemascope, can clearly c the edges r grayish instead of totally black)

what's goin on with it? or is tis a case of i got wat i paid for? (cheap thing no good thing...u know wat i mean)
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QUOTE(limhongwoon @ Nov 16 2008, 10:34 AM)
which model 24" LCD is the best
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currently hp has the best 24" lcd based on this website:

http://compreviews.about.com/od/monitors/tp/24inchLCDs.htm

thts y i bought hp 24" lcd last week, very sattisfied with it, no dead-pixel, back light bleeding and etc...

plus the pic are brilliant...
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QUOTE(rd33 @ Nov 16 2008, 02:20 PM)
currently hp has the best 24" lcd based on this website:

http://compreviews.about.com/od/monitors/tp/24inchLCDs.htm

thts y i bought hp 24" lcd last week, very sattisfied with it, no dead-pixel, back light bleeding and etc...

plus the pic are brilliant...
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how much u bought it ?
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which model 24" LCD is the best
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go look for the most expensive one. Me think Apple Cinema display tongue.gif

RM3.3K nia wink.gif

ever heard anyone complaining about APPLE Cinema display not displaying color accurately?

http://store.apple.com/my/product/M9178B/A...NTg3OA#overview

http://a248.e.akamai.net/7/248/2041/3631/a...ed=0&layer=comp

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QUOTE(Naota-kun @ Nov 16 2008, 01:04 PM)
i just got a LGW2252TQ 22" mon from ALL IT last week. at only RM625 for a 22" mon, it was a steal.

but then, i realised something wasn't right wit it. the edges of the screen would be brighter (like when i watch a movie wit cinemascope, can clearly c the edges r grayish instead of totally black)

what's goin on with it? or is tis a case of i got wat i paid for? (cheap thing no good thing...u know wat i mean)
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QUOTE(g5sim @ Nov 16 2008, 02:37 PM)
go look for the most expensive one. Me think Apple Cinema display tongue.gif

RM3.3K nia wink.gif

ever heard anyone complaining about APPLE Cinema display not displaying color accurately?

http://store.apple.com/my/product/M9178B/A...NTg3OA#overview

http://a248.e.akamai.net/7/248/2041/3631/a...ed=0&layer=comp
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but so expensive
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guys, can you recommend me what lcd monitor to get ? im looking for wide 22inch. my budget is around 700.
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QUOTE(limhongwoon @ Nov 16 2008, 02:45 PM)
but so expensive
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QUOTE(jon (" @ ),Nov 16 2008, 02:56 PM)
guys, can you recommend me what lcd monitor to get ? im looking for wide 22inch. my budget is around 700.
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need HDMI? Do console gaming? Do dedicated graphic related projects?

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need HDMI? Do console gaming? Do dedicated graphic related projects?
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Dont mind having HDMI but if have to pay more then its okay. Nah i only play games on PC. So far not using anything graphical things

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can recommend a 24' full HD monitor? will be using for computer graphics and games console maybe down the line

got a few in mind :
1. dell 24' 2408wfp
2. samsung t240
3. benq 24'

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can recommend a 24' full HD monitor? will be using for computer graphics and games console maybe down the line

got a few in mind :
1. dell 24' 2408wfp
2. samsung t240
3. benq 24'

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but the benq very cheap but quality picture wise?
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go for the new release benq e2400hd lcd monitor....new release mean better quality/technology thumbup.gif
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go for the new release benq e2400hd lcd monitor....new release mean better quality/technology  thumbup.gif
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This thread makes me want to get e2200hd if really 585myr.
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actually 22' and 24' got alot of difference? since benq 22' has HD already
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QUOTE(hsienming @ Nov 16 2008, 06:32 PM)
actually 22' and 24' got alot of difference? since benq 22' has HD already
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22" on 1920x1080 means mini characters tongue.gif. Like those 15" on a 17" resolution lo.
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Planning to buy a 22inch during next month's Pikom PC Fair.
But it seems to me like Samsung's LCDs aren't exactly the best buy especially when it comes to color accuracy.
The T220 fairs better, but needs a bit of tweaking.

Just wanna ask, if things come down to:
1) Color accuracy (for photo-editing)
2) Response time (for gaming & movies)

What do you guys recommend?

I've also heard that 120MHz LCDs are coming out soon (by early 2009)?
Is it a good time to buy LCDs now?
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guys for lets say 24' lcd rite u need a fairly powerful Graphic card inorder to display resolutions of 1920x1080 rite? for games
my friend using GTX260 and he say kane's wrath using this 1680 resolution laggggsss

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^u can always use lower resolution. thats the only option. lower resolution (than native res) doesn't mean it look totally sux, no.
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looking for 19 / 22/ 24 lcd with 1920 x 1080 reso.. any recommendations..?
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Not so sure about 24 inch LCDs though.
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Now got 22" full HD. of course the 24" is always full HD
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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Nov 17 2008, 12:32 AM)
Now got 22" full HD. of course the 24" is always full HD
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Which ones are 22" full HD?
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I've read through most of this thread and can't find an appropriate answer.

Im planning to buy a LCD monitor to connect my PS3, im looking for one with either DVI with HDCP compatibility or straight with HDMI ports.

Im not sure which model or brand is good and was hoping to get some input on a model thats cheap (second hand preferably and around the RM700 region)

Does anyone know any brands around that price?

Thanks in advance.
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The ones I know of are only 1050p.
Which ones are 22" full HD?
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M/E/T2200HD.
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Last month, Benq already introduced their HD series which offered 1080p resolution for 22" and 24". Check their website for more details.
M/E/T2200HD.
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I'm in Singapore and it seems like Singapore isn't carrying the above Benq products... So any suggestion how I can get it? Online sales? Or nearest place in Malaysia I can go from Singapore to buy it? Thx!

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Hi all,

I'm in Singapore and it seems like Singapore isn't carrying the above Benq products... So any suggestion how I can get it? Online sales? Or nearest place in Malaysia I can go from Singapore to buy it? Thx!
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Hi all,

I'm in Singapore and it seems like Singapore isn't carrying the above Benq products... So any suggestion how I can get it? Online sales? Or nearest place in Malaysia I can go from Singapore to buy it? Thx!
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take a bus or taxi n come to jb thumbup.gif
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What 24" IPS screen is avail in malaysia? well apart from hp's 2475

no NEC? no Hazro?

how much is hp 2475 now, anyone know? can ssee lcd price drop a bit already.
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i'm looking for d perfect lcd for movies & gaming...
any recommendations..?
please state the price also..
thanks !
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i'm looking for d perfect lcd for movies & gaming...
any recommendations..?
please state the price also..
thanks !
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currently benq e2200hd is popular.
u can read this review
http://www.anandtech.com/displays/showdoc.aspx?i=3449
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1359320

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hows the E2200Hd compare to its brother the T2200HD? i just went to Digital mall and Thuder match there was selling the "T" for 565 but no sign of the "E"

i plan to get a 22" monitor asap by next week if possible....im gona use it for gaming and my PS 3 also... i wana ask whats the general price diff between the T and the E cuz im kinda on a tight budget and want to know should i shell out more to get the E or the T is sufficient enuf.....

In terms of gaming is the E better then the T if so why?and about the E having HDMI input if i were to get a T how should i connect my PS 3 to the monitor?with a converter right? if so how much is the converter? my budget is about RM600

Thks for the hand guys
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QUOTE(biatche @ Nov 17 2008, 12:06 PM)
What 24" IPS screen is avail in malaysia? well apart from hp's 2475

no NEC? no Hazro?

how much is hp 2475 now, anyone know? can ssee lcd price drop a bit already.
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Around 2.6k at JB.


Added on November 18, 2008, 1:55 amI am looking for a 20" - 24" WS LCD.
Not looking into IPS reason too expensive.
So left with PVA or TN. I like PVA color reproduction and contrast ratio but i need a good response time or minimal input/output lag for my FPS games.

Basically this is my requirement:
1) At least 16xx-10xx resolution.
2) Nice color reproduction. (8bit panels)
3) Good contrast ratio with minimal backlight bleeding.
4) Acceptable input/output lag.

P/S: I don't mind getting a TN panel(6bit) only if its color simulation is not "so" noticable.

I notice the lately favorable E2200HD by BENQ. Looks sweet but i still prefer if it is not TN sad.gif
So braders-braders sekalian, help me by shouting out ANY models which u think best suit my needs and I will go do my homework. Just list down here. Thanks. notworthy.gif cheers.gif

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how to differentiate between TN and IPS display panels?
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QUOTE(kayden @ Nov 17 2008, 11:39 PM)
Basically this is my requirement:
1) At least 16xx-10xx resolution.
2) Nice color reproduction. (8bit panels)
3) Good contrast ratio with minimal backlight bleeding.
4) Acceptable input/output lag.

P/S: I don't mind getting a TN panel(6bit) only if its color simulation is not "so" noticable.

I notice the lately favorable E2200HD by BENQ. Looks sweet but i still prefer if it is not TN sad.gif
So braders-braders sekalian, help me by shouting out ANY models which u think best suit my needs and I will go do my homework. Just list down here. Thanks.  notworthy.gif  cheers.gif
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If you want VA panels, you can go for Dell Ultrasharp 2408WFP. For other 22 inch Dell monitor, only offers TN panels

Samsung 2233BW, T220, T240 using TN panels (if not mistaken) So do applies for BenQ E220HD, E2400HD. You can google for reviews and decide which one you want to pick. smile.gif

QUOTE(hsienming @ Nov 18 2008, 02:48 AM)
how to differentiate between TN and IPS display panels?
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S-IPS/H-IPS (In Plane Switching) panels are generally considered the best all around panel type, but they are more expensive and very few are made. High end, expensive.

S-PVA/MVA (Vertical Alignment) panels offer better color reproduction and viewing angles than TN panels, have slightly worse response times than TN or S-IPS, offer the best contrast ratios, may suffer from color shifting or input lag and have higher availability than S-IPS panels. Mid range, fair price.

TN (Twisted Nematic) panels are very cheap and have the fastest response times, but suffer from inferior color reproduction, contrast ratios and viewing angles. Low end, inexpensive.

More info, just go here : http://www.pchardwarehelp.com/guides/lcd-panel-types.php

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I am planning to buy either the dell s2409w or either Benq HD models?
What are the prices back in malaysia?
How is the quality for both brands? Planning to use them on my laptop? not sure the resolution is supported though. Using ati mobility radeon hd2600.

I have tried plugging in through vga to a 42" HD plasma TV which works great, though the laptop screen resolution is reduce when connecting to the TV. Does plugging in to a monitor works similarly or is it due to the TV upscaling the laptop's native reso

Appreciate the suggestions.

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QUOTE(soundsyst64 @ Nov 18 2008, 07:39 AM)
If you want VA panels, you can go for Dell Ultrasharp 2408WFP. For other 22 inch Dell monitor, only offers TN panels

Samsung 2233BW, T220, T240 using TN panels (if not mistaken) So do applies for BenQ E220HD, E2400HD. You can google for reviews and decide which one you want to pick. smile.gif
S-IPS/H-IPS (In Plane Switching) panels are generally considered the best all around panel type, but they are more expensive and very few are made. High end, expensive.
Dell Ultrasharp 2408WFP is RM2.6k according to Malaysia Dell Webbie. Over budget happy.gif Guess i shall live with TN panels :-\
I see alot of good reviews for Samsung 226BW. Yet to check out 2233BW.
Thru reviews alot of ppl favor Samsung LCD monitors. I like Samsung becuz of their MagicBright function. No need spend 10secs tweaking the brightness for different ambient lighting environment. But the chances of getting a Samsung panel is a gamble also when they outsource some panels manufacturing to AU Opt. and Chimei.

Looking at Samsung's webbie, i cant tell any difference in specs between 2233BW and 2253BW. Only thing is 2253BW reports a 2ms GTG. Do u think we have the right to open box and check to confirm the unit is using samsung's panel before purchasing?

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is 24" lcd really a lot better than 22" when watching 1080p hdtv movies ?

coz it is just a mere 2 inches difference ..
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is 24" lcd really a lot better than 22" when watching 1080p hdtv movies ?

coz it is just a mere 2 inches difference ..
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Example.
If u are to sit 30" from ur screen, and ure using a 22" FULL HD (1920x1080) LCD, ur images are sharp and visual is just big enough.
But if u sit 35" away from it and you still want to have the same sharpness and same visual size, u need that 2" extra to keep it up. Imagine u are 35" away and u're still using that 22" LCD, logically it will reduce the sight of ur visual. Thou it is still clear, but images are smaller now.

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http://www.samsung.com/my/consumer/detail/...d=LS22TWHSUV/XM

How come samsung advertise their T220 as full HD when the resolution is 1680 x 1050 (WSXGA+)? shocking.gif
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QUOTE(Illiad @ Nov 18 2008, 10:14 AM)
I am planning to buy either the dell s2409w or either Benq HD models?
What are the prices back in malaysia?
How is the quality for both brands? Planning to use them on my laptop? not sure the resolution is supported though. Using ati mobility radeon hd2600.

Does plugging in to a monitor works similarly or is it due to the TV upscaling the laptop's native reso

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If you extend the display to your monitor, your laptop's resolution will be reduced.

QUOTE(kayden @ Nov 18 2008, 10:53 AM)
Dell Ultrasharp 2408WFP is RM2.6k according to Malaysia Dell Webbie. Over budget happy.gif Guess i shall live with TN panels :-\
I see alot of good reviews for Samsung 226BW. Yet to check out 2233BW.
Thru reviews alot of ppl favor Samsung LCD monitors. I like Samsung becuz of their MagicBright function. No need spend 10secs tweaking the brightness for different ambient lighting environment. But the chances of getting a Samsung panel is a gamble also when they outsource some panels manufacturing to AU Opt. and Chimei.

Looking at Samsung's webbie, i cant tell any difference in specs between 2233BW and 2253BW. Only thing is 2253BW reports a 2ms GTG. Do u think we have the right to open box and check to confirm the unit is using samsung's panel before purchasing?
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QUOTE(rockysta @ Nov 18 2008, 11:02 AM)
is 24" lcd really a lot better than 22" when watching 1080p hdtv movies ?
coz it is just a mere 2 inches difference ..
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if you talk about FullHD LCD monitor, i guess there's a small difference; display area and power consumption (compare E2200HD and E2400HD). But the screen resolution is still the same, 1920x1080

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QUOTE(kayden @ Nov 18 2008, 11:18 AM)
http://www.samsung.com/my/consumer/detail/...d=LS22TWHSUV/XM

How come samsung advertise their T220 as full HD when the resolution is 1680 x 1050 (WSXGA+)?  shocking.gif
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I'm not so sure. you need to ask samsung itself. They also got 2233BW with 20,000:1 DC

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QUOTE(kayden @ Nov 18 2008, 11:18 AM)
http://www.samsung.com/my/consumer/detail/...d=LS22TWHSUV/XM

How come samsung advertise their T220 as full HD when the resolution is 1680 x 1050 (WSXGA+)?  shocking.gif
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I think Samsung misguide us. I also wonder why they put full HD 1080p but after I checked in their brochure (Download Brochure), Full HD 1080p only applicable for T220HD. This model has embedded DTV tuner and speaker.
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QUOTE(Holyboyz @ Nov 17 2008, 08:37 PM)
hows the E2200Hd compare to its brother the T2200HD? i just went to Digital mall and Thuder match there was selling the "T" for 565 but no sign of the "E"

i plan to get a 22" monitor asap by next week if possible....im gona use it for gaming and my PS 3 also... i wana ask whats the general price diff between the T and the E cuz im kinda on a tight budget and want to know should i shell out more to get the E or the T is sufficient enuf.....

In terms of gaming is the E better then the T if so why?and about the E having HDMI input if i were to get a T how should i connect my PS 3 to the monitor?with a converter right? if so how much is the converter? my budget is about RM600

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QUOTE(Holyboyz @ Nov 18 2008, 12:34 PM)
Sry that i have to repost this anyone can help me out? any feedback would be very appreciated
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The difference between T and E series

T series : don't have HDMI
E series : have HDMI

Colour temperature
H/V frequency

refer benq.com.my

Even though Kuching not yet bring ant E or T series, so kinda hard for me to decide which one is the best. I think you can get E2200HD below RM 600 already. smile.gif Try search Thundermatch. http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/781731/+1840
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its the T thats below RM565.E is about 720 ...... the T does not have HDMI so how does one connect my PS3 to it? converter? if so which one?

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QUOTE(Holyboyz @ Nov 18 2008, 12:56 PM)
its the T thats below RM565.E is about 720 ...... the T does not have HDMI so how does one connect my PS3 to it? converter? if so which one?
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QUOTE(Holyboyz @ Nov 18 2008, 12:34 PM)
Sry that i have to repost this anyone can help me out? any feedback would be very appreciated
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if you want to also use it for console gaming, i suggest u go for the HDMI model but the price is abit steep for the model. I believe its either SRP or slightly over the SRP for E2200HD. wait for other shops to stock the item.


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QUOTE(Holyboyz @ Nov 18 2008, 12:34 PM)
Sry that i have to repost this anyone can help me out? any feedback would be very appreciated
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Okie a user feedback for u.

http://www.hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=10...8&postcount=167

There u go.
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QUOTE(Holyboyz @ Nov 18 2008, 12:56 PM)
its the T thats below RM565.E is about 720 ...... the T does not have HDMI so how does one connect my PS3 to it? converter? if so which one?
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There are cables for HDMI-DVI. RM29.90 can get . No worries bout the conversion smile.gif
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I'm going to change my 19" square lcd to a 22" widescreen one..

Does anyone know the prices of these models.?

Samsung 2233BW

BenQ T2200HD

BenQ E2200HD

And which one would u guys prefer for movies + gaming..?
Thanks !

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I'm going to change my 19" square lcd to a 22" widescreen one..

Does anyone know the prices of these models.?

Samsung 2233BW

BenQ T2200HD

BenQ E2200HD

And which one would u guys prefer for movies + gaming..?
Thanks !
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BenQ E2200HD thumbup.gif
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hey guys want to ask,

for Dell's LCD monitor, the UltraSharp do what wan..got big differences with those that don't have ? coz the price is big diff

Dell UltraSharpâ„¢ 2408WFP 24" Widescreen Flat Panel Monitor RM2609.
Dell S2409W 24" Widescreen Flat Panel Monitor RM1089.

and also those Cash Redemption (ie RM400 for S2409W) is it real or not wan.. or just simply put nia... means S2409W is RM1499 and they sell it at RM1089?
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Does dell 24" cost about 1k now?

Dell UltraSharpâ„¢ 2408WFP 24" Widescreen Flat Panel Monitor RM2609.
Dell S2409W 24" Widescreen Flat Panel Monitor RM1089.

Whats the diff between these 2?

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QUOTE(chezzball @ Nov 18 2008, 03:33 PM)
hey guys want to ask,

for Dell's LCD monitor, the UltraSharp do what wan..got big differences with those that don't have ? coz the price is big diff

Dell UltraSharpâ„¢ 2408WFP 24" Widescreen Flat Panel Monitor RM2609.
Dell S2409W 24" Widescreen Flat Panel Monitor                     RM1089.

and also those Cash Redemption (ie RM400 for S2409W) is it real or not wan.. or just simply put nia... means S2409W is RM1499 and they sell it at RM1089?
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those 2 monitors using different panel.
2408WFP using Vertical Alignment
S2409W using Twisted Nematic.

You can read more about LCD panel types. http://www.pchardwarehelp.com/guides/lcd-panel-types.php
Cash redemption is real, but only applies during promo period.


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Dell UltraSharpâ„¢ 2408WFP 24" Widescreen Flat Panel Monitor RM2609.
Dell S2409W 24" Widescreen Flat Panel Monitor RM1089.

Whats the diff between these 2?

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Dell E248WFP costs RM 1349 after RM 150 cash redemption

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QUOTE(piscesguy @ Nov 18 2008, 03:31 PM)
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how much..?
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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Nov 18 2008, 03:42 PM)
how much..?
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Female buyer claims she got E2200HD RM 595 at Thundermatch
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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ Nov 18 2008, 03:37 PM)
Does dell 24" cost about 1k now?

Dell UltraSharpâ„¢ 2408WFP 24" Widescreen Flat Panel Monitor RM2609.
Dell S2409W 24" Widescreen Flat Panel Monitor RM1089.

Whats the diff between these 2?
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dell 2408 use S-IPS panel, reso max 1920x1200
dell 2409 use TN panel, reso max 1920x1080

so these 2 got different panel
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QUOTE(soundsyst64 @ Nov 18 2008, 03:43 PM)
Female buyer claims she got E2200HD RM 595 at Thundermatch
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wow how come so cheap for full hd...? i saw the samsung 22" about rm900 without full hd..
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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Nov 18 2008, 03:51 PM)
wow how come so cheap for full hd...? i saw the samsung 22" about rm900 without full hd..
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Kuching already got samsung 2233BW RM 750 with 20,000:1 DC tongue.gif
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hmmm.... go for samsung or dell better ah...

dell got 0% installment woh tongue.gif good for students like me tongue.gif
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QUOTE(mdzaboy @ Nov 18 2008, 03:46 PM)
dell 2408 use S-IPS panel, reso max 1920x1200
dell 2409 use TN panel, reso max 1920x1080

so these 2 got different panel
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Correction: 2408wfp uses the S-PVA panel manufactured by Samsung. smile.gif
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QUOTE(ReaperX @ Nov 18 2008, 04:03 PM)
Correction: 2408wfp uses the S-PVA panel manufactured by Samsung.  smile.gif
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lol..typo..thanx dude for correction notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(ReaperX @ Nov 18 2008, 04:03 PM)
Correction: 2408wfp uses the S-PVA panel manufactured by Samsung.  smile.gif
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then 2409 use which panel wan ?
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QUOTE(chezzball @ Nov 18 2008, 04:05 PM)
then 2409 use which panel wan ?
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meaning dun see wat brand , samsung or dell... just see the panel to buy lo ? but all affordable wans aso TN saja... pc fair coming soon, need to decide fast to buy samsung or dell (dell must buy during promo period dy)
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dell now mentioned/posted bout their panel thiggy..

for 24", look out for panel type
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QUOTE(mdzaboy @ Nov 18 2008, 04:19 PM)
dell now mentioned/posted bout their panel thiggy..

for 24", look out for panel type
user posted image
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displaying the TN panel type on the cheaper model is marketing suicide for Dell tongue.gif

BenQ <>RM900 = 24" with HDMI summore. Dell HDMI tarak at RM1100 = panel sama which one you want to buy?


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QUOTE(chezzball @ Nov 18 2008, 04:13 PM)
meaning dun see wat brand , samsung or dell... just see the panel to buy lo ? but all affordable wans aso TN saja... pc fair coming soon, need to decide fast to buy samsung or dell (dell must buy during promo period dy)
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I also do the same thing 'cause Kuching pc fair 5-7 Dec. Still decide either take the 16:9 24" (benq or dell) or 16:10 22" (samsung) LCD monitor
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QUOTE(g5sim @ Nov 18 2008, 04:24 PM)
displaying the TN panel type on the cheaper model is marketing suicide for Dell tongue.gif

BenQ <>RM900 = 24" with HDMI summore. Dell HDMI tarak at RM1100 = panel sama which one you want to buy?
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dell 2409 got HDMI la dude..plz check whistling.gif
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samsung 24" already same price as my T220 i bought only a few months back..i have this 'fear' everytime i enter lowyat and ill end up depressed everytime i leave..gigabyte Hd4850 oso drop rm20 TWO DAYS after i bought it..stress....
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QUOTE(mdzaboy @ Nov 18 2008, 04:39 PM)
dell 2409 got HDMI la dude..plz check whistling.gif
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QUOTE(aztechx @ Nov 18 2008, 04:56 PM)
samsung 24" already same price as my T220 i bought only a few months back..i have this 'fear' everytime i enter lowyat and ill end up depressed everytime i leave..gigabyte Hd4850 oso drop rm20 TWO DAYS after i bought it..stress....
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can't be helped. Technology went fast and everytime new products went out, old products sure drop.
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QUOTE(aztechx @ Nov 18 2008, 04:56 PM)
samsung 24" already same price as my T220 i bought only a few months back..i have this 'fear' everytime i enter lowyat and ill end up depressed everytime i leave..gigabyte Hd4850 oso drop rm20 TWO DAYS after i bought it..stress....
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laugh.gif laugh.gif after you bought your items. ban yourself from Lowyat and lowyat.net
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BenQ one quality also not bad what...
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QUOTE(soundsyst64 @ Nov 18 2008, 03:53 PM)
Kuching already got samsung 2233BW RM 750 with 20,000:1 DC tongue.gif
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wow here in kb rm870... i think i prefer the BenQ one bcause of the full hd and 16:9 ratio..

and how much can i sell my Samsung SycnMaster 932B plus ? (it's a 19" square type lcd)
works perfectly + no dead pixel at all....
user posted image
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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Nov 18 2008, 03:00 PM)
I'm going to change my 19" square lcd to a 22" widescreen one..

Does anyone know the prices of these models.?

Samsung 2233BW ~ i think about rm800-rm900..

BenQ T2200HD ~ ?

BenQ E2200HD ~ ?

And which one would u guys prefer for movies + gaming..?
Thanks !
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BenQ G2200W is rm685 at Pc Zone..

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QUOTE(soundsyst64 @ Nov 18 2008, 03:43 PM)
Female buyer claims she got E2200HD RM 595 at Thundermatch
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Correction: Her 1 is T2200.

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QUOTE(ReaperX @ Nov 18 2008, 04:03 PM)
Correction: 2408wfp uses the S-PVA panel manufactured by Samsung.  smile.gif
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QUOTE(mdzaboy @ Nov 18 2008, 04:19 PM)
dell now mentioned/posted bout their panel thiggy..

for 24", look out for panel type
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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How come if its just a diff in the pannel then the price diff is so huge? Is the really such a huge diff in usage? Which 2 companies are responsible for manufacturing the pannels?
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QUOTE(piscesguy @ Nov 18 2008, 03:31 PM)
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I second that. nod.gif
For lesser than RM700 getting a 22" is a good deal, moreover this E2200 has FULL HD 16:9
I just feel very weird by its price. Thou TN is cheap, but their marketing strat is pulling down the market price rclxms.gif


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QUOTE(kayden @ Nov 18 2008, 06:06 PM)
Correction: Her 1 is T2200.
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i check my order status on dell website, now is process ship from factory, why the estimate delivery date is 2 Dec 2008, take so long long ooo
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How come if its just a diff in the pannel then the price diff is so huge? Is the really such a huge diff in usage? Which 2 companies are responsible for manufacturing the pannels?
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Its like, Proton Persona comparing with Honda Civic. How come civic is twice its price? Becuz civic can do better than persona.
In short, the S-PVA panel can display colors, high contrast, which TN panels cannot afford to perform.
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QUOTE(cp7111269 @ Nov 18 2008, 06:30 PM)
i check my order status on dell website, now is process ship from factory, why the estimate delivery date is 2 Dec 2008, take so long long ooo
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US residents have to wait 1 week for stock to arrive the end user door step. Malaysia boleh? flex.gif

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QUOTE(kayden @ Nov 18 2008, 06:28 PM)
I second that.  nod.gif
For lesser than RM700 getting a 22" is a good deal, moreover this E2200 has FULL HD 16:9
I just feel very weird by its price. Thou TN is cheap, but their marketing strat is pulling down the market price  rclxms.gif
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is it lesser than rm700 ? i think 22" is already big enough for computers..
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QUOTE(cp7111269 @ Nov 18 2008, 06:30 PM)
i check my order status on dell website, now is process ship from factory, why the estimate delivery date is 2 Dec 2008, take so long long ooo
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he mean before 2 Dec 2008 will reach your house brows.gif
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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Nov 18 2008, 06:33 PM)
is it lesser than rm700 ? i think 22" is already big enough for computers..
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RM635 from NAvotech, Bukit Beruang, Melaka.
Bout the T2200 u asked earlier, this is the user review.
http://www.hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=10...8&postcount=167


Added on November 18, 2008, 6:41 pm
QUOTE(aztechx @ Nov 18 2008, 04:56 PM)
samsung 24" already same price as my T220 i bought only a few months back..i have this 'fear' everytime i enter lowyat and ill end up depressed everytime i leave..gigabyte Hd4850 oso drop rm20 TWO DAYS after i bought it..stress....
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I once bought a DVD-RW rom from Sri Computer for RM195(after bargain) and thought it was cheap until i walk to the next shop, PCZone they told me they are selling from RM180 (haven bargain). What say u lol. cry.gif

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QUOTE(chezzball @ Nov 18 2008, 04:13 PM)
meaning dun see wat brand , samsung or dell... just see the panel to buy lo ? but all affordable wans aso TN saja... pc fair coming soon, need to decide fast to buy samsung or dell (dell must buy during promo period dy)
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Yes panel is important. But some ppl also choose according to functions and design. Eg. Samsung has the fast switch button for brightness and contrast which is known as MagicBright. I like that button because it saves ur time by 5-10 secs from tweaking them manually.
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last time i saw in star newspaper the E2200HD was rm1000++...
now is it really about rm600-rm700 only.? can't quite believe it..
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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Nov 18 2008, 07:02 PM)
last time i saw in star newspaper the E2200HD was rm1000++...
now is it really about rm600-rm700 only.? can't quite believe it..
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Yup, but now you can get E2400HD for that price. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Nov 18 2008, 07:02 PM)
last time i saw in star newspaper the E2200HD was rm1000++...
now is it really about rm600-rm700 only.? can't quite believe it..
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I thought only E2400HD's price was announced at RM1188 or something?

Anyways Navotech selling at RM635, anywhere else going for lower price?

This monitor has 1:1 pixel mapping or not? I tried searching around, some say got some say no.
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Nov 18 2008, 09:22 PM)
I thought only E2400HD's price was announced at RM1188 or something?

Anyways Navotech selling at RM635, anywhere else going for lower price?

This monitor has 1:1 pixel mapping or not? I tried searching around, some say got some say no.
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where is Navotech..? i'm in kb. but going to kl this december to buy the lcd..
i think the E2200HD is my choice (is my graphic card enough = MSI N9600GT 512M OC ?)..
budget around rm700 is enough right for a 22" widescreen...?
thanks everyone for ur help.. smile.gif
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I don't know else where, but there's Stygix which is under Navotech's distribution in Melaka.

9600GT on 1920x1080. Gonna be real tough on the GC, unless you lower the details a lot.
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Nov 18 2008, 10:58 PM)
I don't know else where, but there's Stygix which is under Navotech's distribution in Melaka.

9600GT on 1920x1080. Gonna be real tough on the GC, unless you lower the details a lot.
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then which gc suits 1920x1080 the most..? i've just bought the 9600GT though cry.gif

maybe the E2200HD would be cheaper in kl.. in lowyat especially..
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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Nov 18 2008, 11:11 PM)
then which gc suits 1920x1080 the most..? i've just bought the 9600GT though  cry.gif

maybe the E2200HD would be cheaper in kl.. in lowyat especially..
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wanted to upgrade my monitor too for quite some time... but the 1920 x 1080 res and graphic card keep bugging me...
so do we have to have like a GTX 260 or better GC to achieve that res? doh.gif
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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Nov 18 2008, 11:11 PM)
then which gc suits 1920x1080 the most..? i've just bought the 9600GT though  cry.gif

maybe the E2200HD would be cheaper in kl.. in lowyat especially..
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Find a GC like 4850 1gb or any gc that hv 1gb of memory...

due to large memory of gpu, the gc will perform better in large screen size...
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so you mean the more memory the card has the better it is eh

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The issue is not running it. But gaming on it.

That's why, if you want to game on rig, consider the resolution. Dun just see everyone say it's good and you jump straight into it. After you bought it, jack up all settings, and complain the monitor sucks. Look at what you have before you jump into a monitor. If you can upgrade in the near future, 1920x1080 is nice. If no, or that you just got a graphic card, that is lower end, stay away.

IMHO, my verdict on the GPU required to run 1920x1080/1920x1200 is 4870/GTX 260 at decent settings and frames. Anything less and you're pocket will get a bigger hole once you need to upgrade your GPU.

And consider your videos, content. If it's HD, then go for it. If it's some 170MB anime you're watching, or 700MB Movie, then 1080p will make things blocky and blurry. Just run to the nearest electrical store, compare them running Astro on HD Ready sets and FULLHD sets, that should give you an idea of what you should be looking for.
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u can always set your resolution down
u having 24 does not mean u hav to run it at native resolution
i watch 720p anime on 22" still looks ok , 1080p is too big man , streamyx dun hav such great speed , dl will take hell time

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QUOTE(hsienming @ Nov 19 2008, 12:02 AM)
wanted to upgrade my monitor too for quite some time... but the 1920 x 1080 res and graphic card keep bugging me...
so do we have to have like a GTX 260 or better GC to achieve that res?  doh.gif
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or you can wait for upcoming radeon HD 5870 to be released. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Irishcoffee @ Nov 19 2008, 05:33 AM)
u can always set your resolution down
u having 24 does not mean u hav to run it at native resolution
i watch 720p anime on 22" still looks ok , 1080p is too big man , streamyx dun hav such great speed , dl will take hell time
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Whats the point of getting a big screen and then having to run it on non-native? Kinda defeats the purpose no? And getting the E2200HD and then realize your comp cannot cope with it and having to turn the resolution down, why not get a 1680x1050 22" instead?
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More working space on the desktop at 1920x1080 instead?
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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Nov 19 2008, 08:55 AM)
Whats the point of getting a big screen and then having to run it on non-native? Kinda defeats the purpose no? And getting the E2200HD and then realize your comp cannot cope with it and having to turn the resolution down, why not get a 1680x1050 22" instead?
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so u nvr watch your dvd movie on monitor already?since dvd native @640x480 the oni monitor u can run it on native is TV
well for example , u hav a 4850 , while not having gtx280 to run crysis on native 24" , but u may run far cry 2 @ 24" native , ther r some games with lower req get wht i mean?
ther is something u can run @ native but ther r something cant , that is the point to getting bigger 1
having bigger monitor it does not mean i wont view yourtube anymore jzu bcoz i cant run it @ native?

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i'm confused rclxub.gif

can't decide which monitor to buy..

the E2200 was my choice, but u guys said the my GC won't cope with the size..
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Dont worry so much,last time I bought my Viewsonic 2235Wm also like that.My rig only has 7300GT and also can run on it.Just gaming cannot enjoy the eye candy lor.But now,my new rig works perfect with the monitor now.It's either when u're going to get it ma.
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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Nov 19 2008, 08:55 AM)
Whats the point of getting a big screen and then having to run it on non-native? Kinda defeats the purpose no? And getting the E2200HD and then realize your comp cannot cope with it and having to turn the resolution down, why not get a 1680x1050 22" instead?
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..bro. it also depend on purpose. we use pc for multi tasking not only for 3d gaming. even anime/movies not even reach 720p. as we all know, running 3d game lower than native resolution is not that bad... still look surprisingly amazing.
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QUOTE(minghao @ Nov 19 2008, 01:16 PM)
Dont worry so much,last time I bought my Viewsonic 2235Wm also like that.My rig only has 7300GT and also can run on it.Just gaming cannot enjoy the eye candy lor.But now,my new rig works perfect with the monitor now.It's either when u're going to get it ma.
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i'm going to get it in december.. problem is i won't be getting a new rig soon.. so my 9600GT GC must cope with the new monitor or elseeeee..... hmm.gif
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Im planning to get a T2200 full HD, can a HD4670 run on it smoothly?

like play games and watch movie. doesnt need high settings for games
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QUOTE(jinchuan @ Nov 19 2008, 04:53 PM)
Im planning to get a T2200 full HD, can a HD4670 run on it smoothly?

like play games and watch movie. doesnt need high settings for games
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how much is the price for the T2200 ?

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how much is the price for the T2200 ?
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QUOTE(Irishcoffee @ Nov 19 2008, 09:30 AM)
so u nvr watch your dvd movie on monitor already?since dvd native @640x480 the oni monitor u can run it on native is TV
well for example , u hav a 4850 , while not having gtx280 to run crysis on native 24"  , but u may run far cry 2 @ 24" native , ther r some games with lower req get wht i mean?
ther is something u can run @ native but ther r something cant , that is the point to getting bigger 1
having bigger monitor it does not mean i wont view yourtube anymore jzu bcoz i cant run it @ native?
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I was referring to running games on native. I get your point on running lower requirement games, and not all games are like crysis. and hopefully none are like the poorly optimized crysis. But gaming requirements will always get higher through time, and as to my condition, which is running an external monitor on a laptop, 24" won't really cut it even though I'd really love the extra 2". Actually, my point is more towards 1680x1050 vs 1920x1080 on 22" than 22" vs 24".

But videos are another thing. I found out that running SD videos on my 22" looks way better than 19" even though the 19" has less resolution. Probably due to the dot pitch.

Honestly, I don't know why but I don't like how 22"s are running 1920x1080. The words are going to look so small, that you'd have to turn up the font size. But what's the point of running a larger font size given that you could easily buy a lower native res and have more fun instead. More work space is debatable because, if you run two browsers and having to scroll left and right due to the dpi size, isn't that the same as the lower res 22"? 1080p on 22"? Try to run a 1080p on 1680x1050, and tell me you can spot a difference without looking very hard at the details? If you can, then by all means, those 'FULLHD" 22" are good to go, else, are you going to get a 20" wide screen with extra 0.8 inch on both sides, which is the BenQ T2200/E2200? I can't, and I'm happily using a 1680x1050 22" and running games on it.

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is thundermatch at low yot plaza ?


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The issue is not running it. But gaming on it.

That's why, if you want to game on rig, consider the resolution. Dun just see everyone say it's good and you jump straight into it. After you bought it, jack up all settings, and complain the monitor sucks. Look at what you have before you jump into a monitor. If you can upgrade in the near future, 1920x1080 is nice. If no, or that you just got a graphic card, that is lower end, stay away.

IMHO, my verdict on the GPU required to run 1920x1080/1920x1200 is 4870/GTX 260 at decent settings and frames. Anything less and you're pocket will get a bigger hole once you need to upgrade your GPU.

And consider your videos, content. If it's HD, then go for it. If it's some 170MB anime you're watching, or 700MB Movie, then 1080p will make things blocky and blurry. Just run to the nearest electrical store, compare them running Astro on HD Ready sets and FULLHD sets, that should give you an idea of what you should be looking for.
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good point.. i think i'll just go with the normal 22" instead of a full hd one bcause of my GC..
my msi 9600gt will surely handle a 22" monitor with 1680 x 1050 reso. right guys..?
i won't upgrade the GC any soon.. no more money maa..

the reason is i would like to be playing games and watching 700mb dvdrip movies on the new monitor..

so this is the final choice i think.. the samsung 2233BW.. is it ok guys..?
or there are other choices better than this one..?
22" with 1680 x 1050 that is..

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is thundermatch at low yot plaza ?
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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Nov 19 2008, 09:33 PM)
I was referring to running games on native. I get your point on running lower requirement games, and not all games are like crysis. and hopefully none are like the poorly optimized crysis. But gaming requirements will always get higher through time, and as to my condition, which is running an external monitor on a laptop, 24" won't really cut it even though I'd really love the extra 2". Actually, my point is more towards 1680x1050 vs 1920x1080 on 22" than 22" vs 24".

But videos are another thing. I found out that running SD videos on my 22" looks way better than 19" even though the 19" has less resolution. Probably due to the dot pitch.

Honestly, I don't know why but I don't like how 22"s are running 1920x1080. The words are going to look so small, that you'd have to turn up the font size. But what's the point of running a larger font size given that you could easily buy a lower native res and have more fun instead. More work space is debatable because, if you run two browsers and having to scroll left and right due to the dpi size, isn't that the same as the lower res 22"? 1080p on 22"? Try to run a 1080p on 1680x1050, and tell me you can spot a difference without looking very hard at the details? If you can, then by all means, those 'FULLHD" 22" are good to go, else, are you going to get a 20" wide screen with extra 0.8 inch on both sides, which is the BenQ T2200/E2200? I can't, and I'm happily using a 1680x1050 22" and running games on it.
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the dot pitch is smaller - nicer picture for video = smaller words whistling.gif

1080p on a 22" = BenQ needs to put all pixels in 22". to do so, reduce the dot pitch. Good for video, small font. If you want to do word processing, reduce the desktop resolution x 1050 should be just cantik. When doing video, move it up to 1080p smile.gif

or get two 22" inch. One for video one for other stuffs. 1080p for video and the other one 1050 is enuf.

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jus come back from shopping, grab a new thundermatch price list, Samsung 2433bw is sell at thudermatch with RM1039, worth to get it? i using 7600gt, can support tis monitor?
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can support but view in desktop only la play games with 1400 x 960 will lag like hell
am i right?
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what is a recommend resolution for 24 inch lcd? last time own a 22 lcd, after set as 1680*1050, i feel the font so small, then i set it at 1440*900. feel happy wit 1440*900. can i lower down the resolution and let my graphic card support 24 inch lcd?

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QUOTE(hongling1 @ Nov 20 2008, 02:18 PM)
jus come back from shopping, grab a new thundermatch price list, Samsung 2433bw is sell at thudermatch with RM1039, worth to get it? i using 7600gt, can support tis monitor?
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1920x1200 monitor at 1039... and samsung somemore... Seems alright le!
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samsung 2233BW or 2253LW or 2253BW better? plan to buy on the coming PC FAIR. Too many models liao, dunno choose which 1. any1 can give me suggestion?
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QUOTE(hongling1 @ Nov 20 2008, 02:18 PM)
jus come back from shopping, grab a new thundermatch price list, Samsung 2433bw is sell at thudermatch with RM1039, worth to get it? i using 7600gt, can support tis monitor?
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sweet! can beat the price for standard 24 inch dell already. drool.gif


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samsung 2233BW or 2253LW or 2253BW better? plan to buy on the coming PC FAIR. Too many models liao, dunno choose which 1. any1 can give me suggestion?
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better take new model 2233BW smile.gif

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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Nov 19 2008, 10:21 PM)
is thundermatch at low yot plaza ?


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good point.. i think i'll just go with the normal 22" instead of a full hd one bcause of my GC..
my msi 9600gt will surely handle a 22" monitor with 1680 x 1050 reso. right guys..?
i won't upgrade the GC any soon.. no more money maa..

the reason is i would like to be playing games and watching 700mb dvdrip movies on the new monitor..

so this is the final choice i think.. the samsung 2233BW.. is it ok guys..?
or there are other choices better than this one..?
22" with 1680 x 1050 that is..
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do i have other better choices..?
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thundermatch at lowyat plaza.

You can stick 22 inch monitor for a while, and once you got a better budget, you can upgrade to 24 inch and change to better GC
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QUOTE(soundsyst64 @ Nov 20 2008, 04:39 PM)
sweet! can beat the price for standard 24 inch dell already. drool.gif


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better take new model 2233BW smile.gif
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when is the PC Fair..? where..? and how much is the samsung 2233BW at low yat..?


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You can stick 22 inch monitor for a while, and once you got a better budget, you can upgrade to 24 inch and change to better GC
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i don't have the monitor laa.. i'm going to buy.. prefer the 2233BW than the E2200 i think..

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The 2233bw dropped to under Rm700 already. Yikes.


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jus come back from shopping, grab a new thundermatch price list, Samsung 2433bw is sell at thudermatch with RM1039, worth to get it? i using 7600gt, can support tis monitor?
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The font should look smaller as compared to a 22" on native res.

With a 7600GT, you won't be running games on it thats for sure. Otherwise, I dont see any issues with it running a 24".

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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Nov 20 2008, 08:21 PM)
The 2233bw dropped to under Rm700 already. Yikes.
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how much can i sell my Samsung SycnMaster 932B plus ? (it's a 19" square type lcd)
works perfectly + no dead pixel at all....
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any good lcd with led backlighting that you would recommend? I'm in the market to buy one.
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juz bought the SAMSUNG 2253LW RM 605.

juz now saw BenQ T2200 RM 560 at Thunder Match.....but the ratio, although is Full HD, but look very small......
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After a few weeks using 22", I think anything bigger than 1680 X 1050 will give smaller images.

When doing my graphic work, previously, I always work in Actual Size to see the exact image size on screen.

Because common monitor screen size still use 1024 X 768 resolution, most of my images work are less than that. Specially for small bar and button which have less than 50 X 50 size, even in 1680 X 1050 resolution the images are small.

So, from this experience, although I never have the opportunity to see HD monitor with my own eyes, I believe it will produce smaller images when in Actual Size view. But I believe other than that, HD is good for movies and games.

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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Nov 20 2008, 07:30 PM)
when is the PC Fair..? where..? and how much is the samsung 2233BW at low yat..?


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i don't have the monitor laa.. i'm going to buy.. prefer the 2233BW than the E2200 i think..
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At lowyat, not so sure about the exact price, so do when PC fair will be held. Here at Kuching, local pc fair will be held 5-7 Dec 08. Same location, Permata Car Park, Kuching, if you are staying here. tongue.gif
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Can anyone recommend me a good LCD monitor brand and model .. size is 19" ..

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QUOTE(evanttc @ Nov 20 2008, 10:29 PM)
juz bought the SAMSUNG 2253LW RM 605.

juz now saw BenQ T2200 RM 560 at Thunder Match.....but the ratio, although is Full HD, but look very small......
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Very nice price there. where did u get it?

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^ I see it at RM579 on the website though, not updated maybe?

Under the Products > Monitor > BenQ
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Men.. Men... Starting regret buy 19" LCD at RM656 2months ago... doh.gif
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was thinking of selling this and bought the t2200hd laugh.gif
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QUOTE(evanttc @ Nov 20 2008, 10:29 PM)
juz bought the SAMSUNG 2253LW RM 605.

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yaa nice price for a 22"....

but y didn't u get the new model 2233BW..?
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QUOTE(Onion-KiD @ Nov 21 2008, 06:51 PM)
Men.. Men... Starting regret buy 19" LCD at RM656 2months ago... doh.gif
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Why so expensive d?What brand?

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have you guys seen the Dell crystal LCD? transparent side one... any comment about it? looks cool tho~

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have you guys seen the Dell crystal LCD? transparent side one... any comment about it? looks cool tho~

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have you guys seen the Dell crystal LCD? transparent side one... any comment about it? looks cool tho~

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post Nov 22 2008, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(matcatzz @ Nov 21 2008, 10:03 PM)
have you guys seen the Dell crystal LCD? transparent side one... any comment about it? looks cool tho~
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yes. i've seen it in dell store/tec-asia.
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looks great man.. lets wait for the price to drop.. huhu
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RM 4k u can get 42-inch lcd tv edi lol
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QUOTE(matcatzz @ Nov 21 2008, 10:03 PM)
have you guys seen the Dell crystal LCD? transparent side one... any comment about it? looks cool tho~

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my comment would be it is cool but too expensive. not worth paying the premium just for the look.
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post Nov 22 2008, 02:21 PM

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what is the best pc monitor to connect with ps3?
i looking the price around 1000 and the size is 22''...

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QUOTE(terbang @ Nov 22 2008, 02:21 PM)
what is the best pc monitor to connect with ps3?
i looking the price around 1000 and the size is 22''...

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you can go for BenQ T2200HD/E2200HD Full HD

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Just Help My Friend Bought A Samsung 2233BW Which Is 1: 20000 smile.gif

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QUOTE(matcatzz @ Nov 21 2008, 10:03 PM)
have you guys seen the Dell crystal LCD? transparent side one... any comment about it? looks cool tho~

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QUOTE(terbang @ Nov 22 2008, 02:21 PM)
what is the best pc monitor to connect with ps3?
i looking the price around 1000 and the size is 22''...

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around 1k, u can opt for 24".
like dell 2409?. or benq 24" series.
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QUOTE(SeaMonster @ Nov 22 2008, 03:24 PM)
Just Help My Friend Bought A Samsung 2233BW Which Is 1: 20000 smile.gif

RM630 Nia.. Quite Cheap
where..?
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Yeah..Where can find Samsung 2233BW RM 630 o?
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Hi, I just upgraded from 15" CRT to 19" widescreen LCD (ViewSonic VA1928wm). The recommended resolution and refresh rate is 1440x900 60Hz. But I notice that using 1440x900 60Hz will have slight flickering (like liquid movement) when looking the words carefully, why is this happen? It is not so obvious, but once you see it carefully, you will notice that. So I try to adjust the refresh rate to 75Hz, it solved the problem, but will it hurt the LCD?
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QUOTE(voscar @ Nov 22 2008, 06:33 PM)
Hi, I just upgraded from 15" CRT to 19" widescreen LCD (ViewSonic VA1928wm). The recommended resolution and refresh rate is 1440x900 60Hz. But I notice that using 1440x900 60Hz will have slight flickering (like liquid movement) when looking the words carefully, why is this happen? It is not so obvious, but once you see it carefully, you will notice that. So I try to adjust the refresh rate to 75Hz, it solved the problem, but will it hurt the LCD?
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