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post Nov 1 2008, 10:24 AM

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I think there should be a 21.6" on that chart. Well, since it's a valid monitor and to let people see how much do they really differ.
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post Nov 1 2008, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(Andiboi @ Nov 1 2008, 08:24 PM)
hi guys,
i was wondering, what's the purposes of owning several monitors?
i saw a lot of forummers actually have own two monitors and above.
cause planning to buy monitor. i dont know whether go for 1 unit of 24" monitor or 2 unit of 22" monitors.
find out owning 2 monitor is kinda cool but i still don know what is the purposes of owning 2 monitor tho.
someone guide me please? tongue.gif
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If you don't see any gains with extra monitor then go for 24" of course. Since you don't know the purpose, it'd mean you don't need it.

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post Nov 2 2008, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(cp7111269 @ Nov 2 2008, 09:07 AM)
I saw at thundermatch in lyp
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Another round of price cut? rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

So far LG is doing it, doesn't see any Samsungs
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post Nov 2 2008, 11:05 AM

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Since the LG 226 is so cheap, has anyone seen it before? What is the colors like? I've been reading 30 pages at HardForum and 13 pages at Anandtech and most they talk about is where to get it as opposed to what colors it is producing. with 1000:1 typical Ratio, supposedly be better than the other LG 2252wtq with 700:1, from the specs no?

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post Nov 6 2008, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Nov 6 2008, 12:05 AM)
Pros:
-16:9 ratio means no weird scaling is required for video and game content
-Well priced RM1089 for 24"
-VGA, DVI, HDMI inputs all included
-Crystal clear picture on any setting

Cons:
-Dude, you're gettin' a dell. With a monitor like this for this price you HAVE to buy it!
-Loss of vertical resolution to achieve 16:9 ratio as compared to 16:10
-Uses TN panel technology which isn't the best
- HDMI cable is not included
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I've been wondering, what kind of content do you watch mostly? 720p? 1080p? or SD...
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post Nov 9 2008, 01:26 AM

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Found this site.

Digital Versus

Doesn't have all the latest panels, but does contain quite a number of those 22" under Rm700.

And this site does let you download some calibrated profiles as well.

Calibration Profile


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post Nov 10 2008, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(studwo @ Nov 9 2008, 08:46 PM)
2233bw = 770 ringgit with contrast ration of 20 K.. .wow.... that is cheap compared to the T series.... what  is the price of 2433bw.... damn since when samsung know how to do cheap stuff... when is it in malaysia
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CEX has it for RM810.

But i'm jumping into it since there's no reviews on it.

This thing has about the same design as the TOC series, albeit with 5ms, but it does come with a VESA mount.

Now I'm in a headache of whether to go for it, or go for the T220.
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post Nov 11 2008, 03:52 PM

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Without any reviews on the 2233bw, it's very hard to decide on it. I have since opted for the T220 instead.
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post Nov 15 2008, 10:37 PM

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After I got my Sammy T220, I realized SD shows doesn't look really bad with the dot pitch of a standard 22".

The 19" my parent's has, has blocky images due to the bigger dot pitch. Has anyone compared how SD content look on 22" and 24" monitors before?

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post Nov 19 2008, 12:43 AM

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The issue is not running it. But gaming on it.

That's why, if you want to game on rig, consider the resolution. Dun just see everyone say it's good and you jump straight into it. After you bought it, jack up all settings, and complain the monitor sucks. Look at what you have before you jump into a monitor. If you can upgrade in the near future, 1920x1080 is nice. If no, or that you just got a graphic card, that is lower end, stay away.

IMHO, my verdict on the GPU required to run 1920x1080/1920x1200 is 4870/GTX 260 at decent settings and frames. Anything less and you're pocket will get a bigger hole once you need to upgrade your GPU.

And consider your videos, content. If it's HD, then go for it. If it's some 170MB anime you're watching, or 700MB Movie, then 1080p will make things blocky and blurry. Just run to the nearest electrical store, compare them running Astro on HD Ready sets and FULLHD sets, that should give you an idea of what you should be looking for.
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post Nov 19 2008, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(Irishcoffee @ Nov 19 2008, 05:33 AM)
u can always set your resolution down
u having 24 does not mean u hav to run it at native resolution
i watch 720p anime on 22" still looks ok , 1080p is too big man , streamyx dun hav such great speed , dl will take hell time
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Whats the point of getting a big screen and then having to run it on non-native? Kinda defeats the purpose no? And getting the E2200HD and then realize your comp cannot cope with it and having to turn the resolution down, why not get a 1680x1050 22" instead?
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post Nov 19 2008, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(Irishcoffee @ Nov 19 2008, 09:30 AM)
so u nvr watch your dvd movie on monitor already?since dvd native @640x480 the oni monitor u can run it on native is TV
well for example , u hav a 4850 , while not having gtx280 to run crysis on native 24"  , but u may run far cry 2 @ 24" native , ther r some games with lower req get wht i mean?
ther is something u can run @ native but ther r something cant , that is the point to getting bigger 1
having bigger monitor it does not mean i wont view yourtube anymore jzu bcoz i cant run it @ native?
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I was referring to running games on native. I get your point on running lower requirement games, and not all games are like crysis. and hopefully none are like the poorly optimized crysis. But gaming requirements will always get higher through time, and as to my condition, which is running an external monitor on a laptop, 24" won't really cut it even though I'd really love the extra 2". Actually, my point is more towards 1680x1050 vs 1920x1080 on 22" than 22" vs 24".

But videos are another thing. I found out that running SD videos on my 22" looks way better than 19" even though the 19" has less resolution. Probably due to the dot pitch.

Honestly, I don't know why but I don't like how 22"s are running 1920x1080. The words are going to look so small, that you'd have to turn up the font size. But what's the point of running a larger font size given that you could easily buy a lower native res and have more fun instead. More work space is debatable because, if you run two browsers and having to scroll left and right due to the dpi size, isn't that the same as the lower res 22"? 1080p on 22"? Try to run a 1080p on 1680x1050, and tell me you can spot a difference without looking very hard at the details? If you can, then by all means, those 'FULLHD" 22" are good to go, else, are you going to get a 20" wide screen with extra 0.8 inch on both sides, which is the BenQ T2200/E2200? I can't, and I'm happily using a 1680x1050 22" and running games on it.

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post Nov 20 2008, 08:21 PM

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The 2233bw dropped to under Rm700 already. Yikes.


Added on November 20, 2008, 8:23 pm
QUOTE(hongling1 @ Nov 20 2008, 02:18 PM)
jus come back from shopping, grab a new thundermatch price list, Samsung 2433bw is sell at thudermatch with RM1039, worth to get it? i using 7600gt, can support tis monitor?
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The font should look smaller as compared to a 22" on native res.

With a 7600GT, you won't be running games on it thats for sure. Otherwise, I dont see any issues with it running a 24".

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post Nov 26 2008, 12:47 AM

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QUOTE(RoxyGal @ Nov 25 2008, 10:00 PM)
dont really understand with you guys which all the fuss for the 16:9 screen.

i know it's popular but then only if u are watching high quality video. Even if u played a dual layer original DVD,it wont be clear .

unless u have blue ray player and playing blue ray disc with full reso with the 16:9 full HD lcd.
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Moving from 19" to 22", I get better picture due to smaller pixel size, for SD content, basically the 4:3 ones, since it'd be a almost fair comparison as 22" WS and 19" 5:4 has about the same height.

Base on this, I'd think moving to a 16:9, 1920x1080 with a lagi smaller pixel size would give a better picture as compared to a 22" with 1680x1050. Don't take my word for it. Best for someone with a 22" 1680x1050 compare with a 1920x1080 22" or 24", than can conclude that it is true.
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post Nov 30 2008, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(firstknight @ Nov 30 2008, 08:38 AM)
cry.gif  cry.gif why i got nobody help me in my questions..... feel lonely liao..

whistling.gif lonely.... mr lonely....
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Because the questions your were asking are vague.

And that you can easily check on the samsung website whether there is a hdmi port on the 2433 or not.
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post Dec 30 2008, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Dec 30 2008, 08:59 AM)
I don't quite get what is serious computing lol.

If you are talking about work space, the 21.5 16:9 usually has 1920x1080 which is more work space compared to the usual 16:9 22" which has only 1680x1050.
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Now since the letters are small running 1920x1080 on 21.5", you would have to strain your eyes to read stuff on the computer right. Turning up the DPI would diminish the gains of getting such a high res since, whilst your letters get bigger, the monitor display less letters too.
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post Dec 31 2008, 11:14 AM

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Comparing TN panel and S-PVA, that's hmm, that's like comparing proton vs ferrari right?
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post Jan 3 2009, 11:37 AM

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Those iMacs use high quality screens instead of the TN panels that are really cheap nowadays.

For photo editing, TN panels are not really recommended.

And if you stare at iMacs all day, can you tahan when you go home and look at your much more inferior panel?

My advice, save up more and get a better quality panel, for some reason, I can't recall any model numbers except the Dell 2408Wfp but that thing is waay overpriced at dell.com.my right now. HP has got some nice quality panels too

@selinix, the picture of DOTA on 1920x1080 looks way too stretch out, if I'm the person playing on such a 'fat and short' game I wont be able to stand it. Is it possible to run a 4:3 or 5:4 resolution on the s2409w?

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post Jan 4 2009, 06:30 PM

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Think of it, some people, they just choose the monitor based on the branding and the size. I doubt they would know the difference between a SW and a BW. And when asked, the sellers would just go, SW is FULL HD, and cheaper, BW has more vertical height, guess which one most people who doesn't do research on monitors would choose.
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post Jan 5 2009, 06:57 PM

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Then again, there's this thing

DVI - s-Video

http://store.apple.com/my/product/M9267G/A?mco=MTIxODk3Mw

As always, the fruit store sells it way overprice, though i honestly couldn't find any alternative that is readily available locally

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