anyone using this baby?
how is the performance?
how far it can go?
i heard it can go 4Ghz...
Pentium Dual Core E5200, new processor has arrived!
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The new 45mn Pentium Dual Core E5200 has arrived...
anyone using this baby? how is the performance? how far it can go? i heard it can go 4Ghz... |
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Sep 14 2008, 03:41 AM
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of coz it can go 4ghz just dont know how much vcore it needs.
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Sep 14 2008, 03:43 AM
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p4 oso can go at 8ghz...
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Sep 14 2008, 03:47 AM
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QUOTE(hilmiangah @ Sep 14 2008, 03:41 AM) of coz it can go 4ghz just dont know how much vcore it needs. i heard 1.5xV...  dunno true or not...  QUOTE(nelienuxe_sara @ Sep 14 2008, 03:43 AM) p4 oso can go at 8ghz... 8ghz using water cooling can lah... lame la u ts  if only use fan cooling can go or not?  |
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QUOTE(ColourShadow @ Sep 14 2008, 03:47 AM) 8ghz using water cooling can lah... if you stand a very loud noise, delta fans with 200cfm is the solution for air cooling if only use fan cooling can go or not? |
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Sep 14 2008, 04:37 AM
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But surely a 8Ghz Oc-ed cpu will have shorter life. And its not like you can always use at 8ghz maxed 24 hours everyday. Its just for the record i mean...
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QUOTE(NaGeNaZ @ Sep 14 2008, 04:37 AM) But surely a 8Ghz Oc-ed cpu will have shorter life. And its not like you can always use at 8ghz maxed 24 hours everyday. Its just for the record i mean... Ya, very true. I OC on specific time only. |
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Sep 14 2008, 06:39 AM
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QUOTE(nelienuxe_sara @ Sep 14 2008, 04:43 AM) p4 oso can go at 8ghz... chill bro.lame la u ts p4 8ghz because they just need to pump fsb, multiplier is sky high @ default already QUOTE(ColourShadow @ Sep 14 2008, 04:47 AM) i heard 1.5xV... 8ghz on Liquid Nitrogen dunno true or not... 8ghz using water cooling can lah... if only use fan cooling can go or not?  |
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@TS, google is your fren la....I'd rather ask there than here anytime
 .Some reviews for you http://xtreview.com/addcomment-id-5766-vie...erclocking.html http://en.hardspell.com/doc/showcont.asp?news_id=3687 Forummer heizad ald has 1 I believe. Still waiting for him to report in regarding oc-ing |
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Sep 14 2008, 09:16 AM
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QUOTE(168257061 @ Sep 14 2008, 06:39 AM) chill bro. if use liquid nitrogen...p4 8ghz because they just need to pump fsb, multiplier is sky high @ default already 8ghz on Liquid Nitrogen it will costly.. haha pros=around rm maybe 1k(maybe lh...dunno the true price) LN2= around 10k....coz cannot buy only a cup of tea...need to buy 1 tong.. total= 11k better go buy alien ware notebook  |
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Sep 14 2008, 10:06 AM
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keke... yeah ,
LN2 wont last long also. @TS , E5200 is new processor to replace E2x00 series one.  12x multi... very good in oc. |
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Sep 14 2008, 11:48 AM
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how much this baby costs i wonder
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QUOTE(skylinegtr34rule4life @ Sep 14 2008, 11:48 AM) how much this baby costs i wonder about RM 280. Check at Garage Sales |
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Sep 14 2008, 12:43 PM
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Nice price..it so economic who want try the INTEL...
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QUOTE(skylinegtr34rule4life @ Sep 14 2008, 11:48 AM) how much this baby costs i wonder da latest price is rm275.. compared to e7200,i think better buy dis one la.. only different 1mb L2... *now i'm start to fund some money to buy dis one..  |
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Sep 14 2008, 01:38 PM
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finally i found that got user done bsel on this proc
 ,another super budget proc for budget 'overclocker''  This post has been edited by xk2: Sep 14 2008, 01:39 PM |
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Sep 14 2008, 01:41 PM
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what is diffent betwen the e5220 & this one?
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Sep 14 2008, 02:05 PM
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is a e6300 great jump if i buy this proc at oc it around 3.5ghz? Rm275 is damn good price.
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Sep 14 2008, 02:17 PM
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QUOTE(CyberSundayz @ Sep 14 2008, 02:41 PM) what is diffent betwen the e5220 & this one? Hi there, I checked here and can't find any E5220. Did you mean E2220? if you meant E2220 then the diffrenence is that the E5200 is of 45nm + 2MB L2 cache and runs at 2.5GHz (200x12.5).Yeah, would like to see how does the E5200 perform in comparison to C2D E7200 for the RM130-140 price difference. If only my D946GZIS can support these new guys... This post has been edited by average.joe: Sep 14 2008, 04:30 PM |
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Sep 16 2008, 02:24 PM
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finally got my new e5200..
but on da cpuz,it can't read da revision of da proc... |
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Sep 16 2008, 02:32 PM
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try the new cpuz v1.47
and post some oc result.seems heizad is mia..... |
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Sep 16 2008, 03:13 PM
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@krizalid88
what is your CPU temperature? |
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Sep 16 2008, 05:55 PM
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it's temp look like very high even i'm using CM212..maybe coz something wrong @ da thermalpaste...
very hard to OC dis proc with MSI mobo.. with dis mobo,my proc only can reach 2.9ghz with stock vcore.. i've try to push it further & just can reach to 3.411ghz with such a high vcore..  [attachmentid=594713] err..anybody can tell me any secret of da MSI mobo..? This post has been edited by krizalid88: Sep 16 2008, 05:57 PM |
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Sep 16 2008, 08:01 PM
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You do not need to increase vCore on 45nms until you start to hit a substantial wall...
Maybe you got a "landmine" batch CPU, this time it's 45nm instead of the Q6600s? It's increasingly common on Intel's "best deal" CPUs... the E7k series and upwards is okay though. |
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i've try it but da fsb can't pass 300mhz with stock vcore... maybe coz of my mobo..
tmorow,i'll try it with gigabyte p35.. err..what is "landmine"? This post has been edited by krizalid88: Sep 16 2008, 10:31 PM |
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Is it worth to sell off my e4300 and change to this?
Performance might not increase by a lot but feel like trying something new. |
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maybe there is some issue with krizalid's mobo, even try to oc with e2140 was quite troublesome.tomorrow i'll try to oc his proc with my ggbyte p35 mobo.lazy to assemble his mobo rite now.
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QUOTE(average.joe @ Sep 14 2008, 02:17 PM) Hi there, I checked here and can't find any E5220. Did you mean E2220? if you meant E2220 then the diffrenence is that the E5200 is of 45nm + 2MB L2 cache and runs at 2.5GHz (200x12.5). yes i did see a e5220 in pczone price listYeah, would like to see how does the E5200 perform in comparison to C2D E7200 for the RM130-140 price difference. If only my D946GZIS can support these new guys... Duo Core E5220 (45nm) 2.50 2MB 800 RM280 all the spec are same as E5200 izzit typo? |
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QUOTE(chickenducksoup @ Sep 17 2008, 07:42 AM) yes i did see a e5220 in pczone price list that is E5200,not E5220.. i've check on da web & didn't find any E5220..Duo Core E5220 (45nm) 2.50 2MB 800 RM280 all the spec are same as E5200 izzit typo? |
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Sep 17 2008, 10:38 AM
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QUOTE(soundsyst64 @ Sep 14 2008, 12:00 PM) about RM 280. Check at Garage Sales QUOTE(krizalid88 @ Sep 14 2008, 12:48 PM) da latest price is rm275.. compared to e7200,i think better buy dis one la.. only different 1mb L2... woah cool but i was wondering will it bottleneck future cards like HD5870 and 360/380 GTX *now i'm start to fund some money to buy dis one.. Added on September 17, 2008, 10:40 am QUOTE(Kyl3 @ Sep 16 2008, 11:17 PM) Is it worth to sell off my e4300 and change to this? not worth it...you must well revert 2 E8xxx or quad corePerformance might not increase by a lot but feel like trying something new. This post has been edited by skylinegtr34rule4life: Sep 17 2008, 10:40 AM |
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[quote=skylinegtr34rule4life,Sep 17 2008, 10:38 AM]
woah cool but i was wondering will it bottleneck future cards like HD5870 and 360/380 GTX hahaha..dat time i already change to nehalem.. |
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erm..when nahalem is out, its my turn to try yorkfield or wolfdale. always 1 generation behind, cant afford it...nahalem means i have to change my mobo, ram n proc...
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QUOTE(krizalid88 @ Sep 16 2008, 10:29 PM) i've try it but da fsb can't pass 300mhz with stock vcore... maybe coz of my mobo.. Landmine is a bad chip by itself. I dunno, but all of a sudden, ever since the Q6600 dropped below 200USD, the bad stuff- and that's the G0s!- now started to appear.tmorow,i'll try it with gigabyte p35.. err..what is "landmine"? The E5200 might be the E7200 leftovers, just like the E2k were the E4k leftovers. If your P45 can't push it I'm pretty much out of ideas on what can. |
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yerp...it is even more harder with gigabyte ep35 ds3. just tested it just now.. scary high voltage but just minor oc. herm..i wonder hows the reviews on net done 4.0ghz easily....
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QUOTE(nelienuxe_sara @ Sep 14 2008, 03:43 AM) p4 oso can go at 8ghz... 8.18GHz to be exactlame la u ts This post has been edited by danieljoey: Sep 17 2008, 10:26 PM |
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QUOTE(danieljoey @ Sep 17 2008, 10:23 PM) 8.18GHz to be exact Highest clock SS: |
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[quote=krizalid88,Sep 17 2008, 10:52 AM]
[quote=skylinegtr34rule4life,Sep 17 2008, 10:38 AM] woah cool but i was wondering will it bottleneck future cards like HD5870 and 360/380 GTX hahaha..dat time i already change to nehalem.. [/quote] lolz provided you can pay 3k just 4 the whole set lo [quote=pr0t0typ3,Sep 17 2008, 01:01 PM] erm..when nahalem is out, its my turn to try yorkfield or wolfdale. always 1 generation behind, cant afford it...nahalem means i have to change my mobo, ram n proc... [/quote] haha yeah...LGA 1337 the slot number is |
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Sep 18 2008, 01:13 AM
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nice proc..saw raymond iinm clock it to 4ghz
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QUOTE(mfcm @ Sep 18 2008, 01:13 AM) nice proc..saw raymond iinm clock it to 4ghz he used DFI p45 t2rs lorr.. can't beat with mine... This post has been edited by krizalid88: Sep 18 2008, 02:04 AM |
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Sep 18 2008, 02:25 AM
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hahhaa myb u need to jump on it too..nice mobo
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Sep 18 2008, 09:44 AM
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i saw the vantage score even havent overclock at 4ghz already pwn my e6300, my e6300 CPU score was like 2k the most..
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Sep 18 2008, 10:26 AM
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QUOTE(mfcm @ Sep 18 2008, 02:25 AM) hahhaa myb u need to jump on it too..nice mobo haha.. dont have enuff money la rite now.. |
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Sep 18 2008, 10:28 AM
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hitting like 3.5ghz is considered good edi IMO, becos 4ghz is the TOP, it doesnt mean everyone can hit the top easily.
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Sep 18 2008, 09:44 AM) i saw the vantage score even havent overclock at 4ghz already pwn my e6300, my e6300 CPU score was like 2k the most.. not bad la dis proc..can score 3.2k in 3dmark06...http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=8201950 |
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QUOTE(ColourShadow @ Sep 14 2008, 03:47 AM) i heard 1.5xV... dont think water can handle a "presshott" at 8ghz dunno true or not... 8ghz using water cooling can lah... if only use fan cooling can go or not? QUOTE(CyberSundayz @ Sep 14 2008, 01:41 PM) what is diffent betwen the e5220 & this one? xeon e5220? |
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da world record for E5200 OC....
[attachmentid=597422] |
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krizalid88,source pls
hit that speed at what vcore ah? |
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QUOTE(fesick @ Sep 18 2008, 07:24 PM) krizalid88,source pls At least 1.75vcore and cool with DICE,Cascade,Phase or LN2 hit that speed at what vcore ah? |
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QUOTE(fesick @ Sep 18 2008, 07:24 PM) krizalid88,source pls u can see all of the record from here...hit that speed at what vcore ah? http://www.ripping.org/database.php?act=records Added on September 18, 2008, 8:01 pm QUOTE(OC4/3 @ Sep 18 2008, 07:56 PM) At least 1.75vcore and cool with DICE,Cascade,Phase or LN2 they used 1.67v MSI p45 zilent with LN2...  This post has been edited by krizalid88: Sep 18 2008, 08:01 PM |
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QUOTE(krizalid88 @ Sep 18 2008, 08:00 PM) u can see all of the record from here... wrong posthttp://www.ripping.org/database.php?act=records Added on September 18, 2008, 8:01 pm they used 1.67v MSI p45 zilent with LN2... yeah, looks ok This post has been edited by bryanyeo87: Sep 20 2008, 12:11 AM |
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3.2k cpu score is like 1k higher than mine. Damn. But i think p965 cant support rite?
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Sep 20 2008, 12:05 PM
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krizalid88, your 3.4Ghz running with what vCore and what FSB?
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QUOTE(Snyy @ Sep 20 2008, 12:05 PM) krizalid88, your 3.4Ghz running with what vCore and what FSB? 3.4ghz with multiplier 12.5 & vcore 1.31v... |
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i am the new comer 4 e5200....hmm got a problem...mine mobo ep35ds3..try reach 4ghz but unstable...try 4ghz vcore 1.5v but still unstable...any suggestion?
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QUOTE(extreem @ Oct 3 2008, 12:52 PM) i am the new comer 4 e5200....hmm got a problem...mine mobo ep35ds3..try reach 4ghz but unstable...try 4ghz vcore 1.5v but still unstable...any suggestion? ep35ds3 dont have a much voltage tweaker...just try to increase da vcore until it become stable.. |
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Oct 6 2008, 11:49 PM
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emm...only vcore ke bro?lelain?
my spec is : e5200 ep35-ds3 team elite ddr800 any suggestion? |
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QUOTE(extreem @ Oct 6 2008, 11:49 PM) emm...only vcore ke bro?lelain? hahahaha.my spec is : e5200 ep35-ds3 team elite ddr800 any suggestion? cant get it stable sell it and get another e5200 la to test it out..... jk jk jk. originally i wanted to get this proc but cancel my mind when i get a good offer for a e7200......... |
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Oct 6 2008, 11:55 PM
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ceh...dpt proc aku leh ar...hukhuk...
any suggestion?...help me oc mine proc..hehe |
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QUOTE(iXora.ix @ Sep 14 2008, 09:16 AM) if use liquid nitrogen... Only the tong(dewar actually) is expensive, the liquid isn't. Go borrow from other ocers or something, hahah.it will costly.. haha pros=around rm maybe 1k(maybe lh...dunno the true price) LN2= around 10k....coz cannot buy only a cup of tea...need to buy 1 tong.. total= 11k better go buy alien ware notebook |
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Oct 7 2008, 10:37 AM
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QUOTE(extreem @ Oct 6 2008, 11:55 PM) ceh...dpt proc aku leh ar...hukhuk... naik kan fsb je...(tp aku suka main multi rendah n fsb tinggi)any suggestion?...help me oc mine proc..hehe agak2 stabil, setel... start naik dalam 10mhz...atau lebey... then pcie set 100mhz... ram tu plak selalu aku letak 1.9vdimm...tp if tak boot, ko up 2.0vdim...ratio pakai 1:1 sbb if fsb tinggi, ram ko tinggi gak... make sure psu ko tu real power... and dont forget IBT or Orthos.. |
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Oct 7 2008, 10:45 AM
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means quite nice proc to play lo...12.5 multi..wonder if can hit 10*400 oso enuf...haha..but the matter is how bout the vcore?
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Oct 7 2008, 10:46 AM
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vcore and d temp boss...
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Oct 7 2008, 10:52 AM
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vcore?got alot say 1.29 can go on 4ghz ad...means on air still can kua..not so bad i guess..
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Oct 7 2008, 10:57 AM
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and stability??
that pretty impresive for d vcore and speed... whats d lowest VID for dis proc?? |
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Oct 7 2008, 12:12 PM
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I wan play this proc man.. should be better than my e6300.. e6300 also 2mb cache only, summore this can push so high without cranking up the FSB.
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Oct 7 2008, 02:15 PM
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due to d high multi...
but personally, i prefer high fsb... for d ram ofcos... |
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Oct 7 2008, 02:20 PM
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well..wif high multi and high fsb..sure u can reach sumthg more rite?leaves u more option to oc...well..compared to e6300 and this, i tink e6300 is a 65nm?
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Oct 7 2008, 02:31 PM
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wahhh....i will try to lower vcore n increasing the fsb....wait mine result..hehe
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Oct 7 2008, 02:37 PM
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okok...good luck..and post ur screenies..
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Oct 7 2008, 03:32 PM
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hmm! look not bad , c/p is high , thinking grab 1 to play .
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Oct 7 2008, 03:38 PM
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sumore its a 2mb cache..shud do fine...how isit compared to C2D E4XXX?
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Oct 7 2008, 03:39 PM
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wow, wanted to OC this proc after i get mine =D.
psst... without cooler , max oc how many? |
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Oct 7 2008, 03:45 PM
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without cooler?u will go no where...hahaa...
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Oct 7 2008, 05:40 PM
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i am getting a new mobo, if my mobo cannot oc my e6300 any higher, probably will get e5200 lo due to higher clock speed..
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Oct 7 2008, 05:59 PM
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QUOTE(sunny93 @ Oct 7 2008, 03:39 PM) wow, wanted to OC this proc after i get mine =D. without cooler u can on ur pc less than 1 minutes...gud luck psst... without cooler , max oc how many?  |
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Oct 7 2008, 06:01 PM
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:| then i should get cooler =|
recommend me cheap n nice |
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Oct 7 2008, 09:37 PM
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I only can make my E5200 to 3.3ghz with my stock cooler..
 Waiting to get AC Freezer 7 on thursday.. Any TIPS for me to make it more better?? |
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Oct 8 2008, 12:29 AM
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anybody care to share their temps of the e5200 @ stock with stock cooler???
kinda curious to know |
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Oct 8 2008, 06:08 AM
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=P .. waaa..cooler cooler .. i never thou cooler was important in OC thing.. hahaha |
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Oct 8 2008, 08:16 AM
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yea...wanna noe bout the temp and vcore....
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Oct 8 2008, 08:42 AM
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aiii..
din found this thread before.. actually.. i already take over krizalid e5200+MSi p45 neo and powercolour 4850..all from him.. i think i oso can get as high as him only la.. BTW. anyone wanna sell their cooler cheap2 |
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Oct 8 2008, 06:34 PM
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Will post my CPU-Z & core temp after get my AC Freezer Pro tmmrw..
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Oct 8 2008, 06:41 PM
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bro....post screenie with stock cooler pls...
i wanna know the temps with stock cooler |
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Oct 8 2008, 08:16 PM
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why my CPU-Z display the proc speed at 1.8xGhz, i din oc it... latest CPu-z wor.
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Oct 8 2008, 08:33 PM
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ur pc speed at 1.8 kuaa
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Oct 8 2008, 09:14 PM
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QUOTE(jaycee_oh @ Oct 8 2008, 08:16 PM) why my CPU-Z display the proc speed at 1.8xGhz, i din oc it... latest CPu-z wor. Disable EIST and C1E for all time 12.5x multi |
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Oct 8 2008, 11:33 PM
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QUOTE(jaycee_oh @ Oct 8 2008, 08:16 PM) why my CPU-Z display the proc speed at 1.8xGhz, i din oc it... latest CPu-z wor. You set your CPU multiplier in BIOS correctly?I'm using E8400 3Ghz but my BIOS detected it as 2.66Ghz. I need to manually change it to 3Ghz. |
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Oct 9 2008, 12:36 AM
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manually change whut??
just disable C1EST je la... |
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Oct 9 2008, 06:22 AM
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new e5200 user with Biostar Tpowwah i45 report in...
err...this e5200 is not so good ler...just so so overclocker...with default voltage, i can reach 2.9 stable...(same with my prev e2180)....at tat speed, the temp oledy can reach 60*c full load....(once again exactly the same as my prev e2180)... this proc feel like my prev 2180. with additional 1MB cache....the low voltage seem didnt do anything to the temp....iam using my old fat stock cooler tat i get from my prev e2180 btw.....i wonder how the temp gonna scream if i just use the very thing stock cooler they provide... i think the main problem here is not the lower voltage....its the temp it self.... next step Ocing report coming soon... GTG This post has been edited by Punish: Oct 9 2008, 06:37 AM |
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Oct 9 2008, 07:22 AM
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oc using stock cooler is a no no. Don say so so when u only use stock for it.
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Oct 9 2008, 07:45 AM
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what is really e5200 default voltage....anybody got any idea...?
some review tell its 1.175 some 1.225...which one iam reall confuse GTG Added on October 9, 2008, 8:37 amya ya i got it...my mistake sorry guys iam noob.... this is e5200, not e2 series....so we suppose to Oc it the right way...not the old e2 series way... u have to use the 12.5 Multiplier advantage......low fsb is the key now im on 272x12.5= 3.41Ghz 1.3vcore....i try orthos max temp just 64*c only.... with my fat stock cooler...acceptable...hihi now i got my self a 3.4 Ghz proc...high fsb just didnt work with this proc such High fsb monster Biostar I45 wasted... GTG This post has been edited by Punish: Oct 9 2008, 07:22 PM |
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Oct 11 2008, 07:10 PM
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lol..nice oc result...and good review...mayb at 1.4 able to hit 500*8?if u opting for high fsb lar...but i will go for high fsb, lowering the multi, and up the fsb..
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Oct 11 2008, 08:02 PM
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QUOTE(seanlimys @ Oct 11 2008, 08:10 PM) lol..nice oc result...and good review...mayb at 1.4 able to hit 500*8?if u opting for high fsb lar...but i will go for high fsb, lowering the multi, and up the fsb.. seems like E5200 is hard to achieve 500fsb ohh....430 considered high for it. |
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Oct 11 2008, 08:14 PM
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errr tis dual core is not the core 2 duo?? coz got dual core and core 2 duo.... hmmm
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Oct 11 2008, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE(spideysam @ Oct 11 2008, 08:14 PM) errr tis dual core is not the core 2 duo?? coz got dual core and core 2 duo.... hmmm well the Pentium Dual Core is a budget proc while the Core 2 Duo is their mainstream market proc. |
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Oct 11 2008, 08:36 PM
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p2d its the lower range of c2d...
GTG |
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Oct 11 2008, 10:00 PM
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p2d is like between celeron adn c2d...so its brother of celeron with larger cache..hahaha...430*12.5? hmmphh...den cheapo ram shud do the job...333*12.5...
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 Oct 11 2008, 11:04 PM
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 my e5200 with stock cooler.. vcore = 1.2v .. idle around 39c with speedstep.. max load ~60c with prime95.. never exceed 55c when playing crysis warhead though ._. btw that's for the hotter core#1.. core#0 is 5-7c cooler.. This post has been edited by Sprinz: Oct 11 2008, 11:28 PM |
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Oct 12 2008, 12:36 AM
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lol..thermal paste not distributed evenly..haha..well...nice oc there
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Oct 12 2008, 12:48 AM
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hehe tried reapplying the thermal paste before, but its still the same..
i guess its thermal sensor issue.. btw, the difference was 3c before i overclock it >_> after overclocking increased to 7c zz |
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Oct 12 2008, 02:10 AM
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ahh jahat....it seem like im always got a lousy chip....
congrat sprinz 3.4 just 1.2v...impressive izzit fully stable...? how long can it handle orthos or prime.. i try mine only can boot at 1.2v but not stable at all.. GTG This post has been edited by Punish: Oct 12 2008, 02:12 AM |
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Oct 12 2008, 07:51 AM
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lol..i oso bad luck in getting good chip...last time get one e2140 m0 tempang, even 360fsb cudnt achieve
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Oct 12 2008, 12:05 PM
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 so far ran orthos for 1hour no error.. considered 'ok' stable i guess o_O i also noticed that the temperature for both cores are around the same when speedstepping/underclocked >_>  This post has been edited by Sprinz: Oct 12 2008, 01:04 PM |
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Oct 12 2008, 10:04 PM
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QUOTE(Punish @ Oct 9 2008, 07:45 AM) what is really e5200 default voltage....anybody got any idea...? what RAM r u using?some review tell its 1.175 some 1.225...which one iam reall confuse GTG Added on October 9, 2008, 8:37 amya ya i got it...my mistake sorry guys iam noob.... this is e5200, not e2 series....so we suppose to Oc it the right way...not the old e2 series way... u have to use the 12.5 Multiplier advantage......low fsb is the key now im on 272x12.5= 3.41Ghz 1.3vcore....i try orthos max temp just 64*c only.... with my fat stock cooler...acceptable...hihi now i got my self a 3.4 Ghz proc...high fsb just didnt work with this proc such High fsb monster Biostar I45 wasted... GTG QUOTE(Sprinz @ Oct 11 2008, 11:04 PM) my e5200 with stock cooler.. vcore = 1.2v .. idle around 39c with speedstep.. max load ~60c with prime95.. never exceed 55c when playing crysis warhead though ._. btw that's for the hotter core#1.. core#0 is 5-7c cooler..  |
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Oct 12 2008, 10:25 PM
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^ corsairXMS2 800 444-12 2.0v
GTG Added on October 12, 2008, 10:59 pmSprinz bro....do u achieve tat speed by playing with other voltage like Vtt or just vcore 1.2 alone... GTG This post has been edited by Punish: Oct 12 2008, 10:59 PM |
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Oct 13 2008, 12:43 AM
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only limited vcore to 1.2 then tried to squeeze out most from it
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Oct 13 2008, 09:03 AM
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means u got a gem den..good luck
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Oct 13 2008, 01:37 PM
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QUOTE(Sprinz @ Oct 12 2008, 12:05 PM) so far ran orthos for 1hour no error.. considered 'ok' stable i guess o_O i also noticed that the temperature for both cores are around the same when speedstepping/underclocked >_> |
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Oct 13 2008, 02:08 PM
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am going to get this baby soon. hehe
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Oct 13 2008, 03:07 PM
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so geng. no wonder so many ppl want buy this processor
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Oct 13 2008, 03:52 PM
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lol..yea...i 2nd tat...and yet this proc has low vcore...thx to 45nm
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Oct 13 2008, 05:07 PM
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i bought this processor for my HTPC/ torrent rig for the 45nm..
power saving mah |
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Oct 13 2008, 05:17 PM
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lol, looking for good cooler that can handle :|
i wanted to OC ler |
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Oct 13 2008, 07:42 PM
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just wanna ask...tis proc seems very oc able,but at 3.0ghz,izzit da same with e8400@3.0ghz oso?i dunno anything bout intel,someone can enlighten me?
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Oct 13 2008, 07:48 PM
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E5200 is 2M, called Pentium Dual Core
E8X00 is 6M, called Intel Core 2 Duo... E8400 can go 4ghz easily... * if im not wrong... |
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Oct 13 2008, 09:40 PM
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QUOTE(ColourShadow @ Oct 13 2008, 07:48 PM) E5200 is 2M, called Pentium Dual Core but at 3.0ghz,same processing power rite?ignore da different cache..E8X00 is 6M, called Intel Core 2 Duo... E8400 can go 4ghz easily... * if im not wrong... |
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Oct 13 2008, 10:40 PM
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nope the cache really make a different in processing power...
or sometime its oso depent on application....but the more cache u got the better... GTG |
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Oct 13 2008, 11:51 PM
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Cache does make a difference.
Here's an article from X-bit Labs about the E5200 and E7300. The E7200 which is clocked similarly to the E5200 is also there for comparison. E5200 has 2MB L2 cache while E7200 and E7300 has 3MB L2 cache. Bus speed also can make difference here other than cache. http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/displ...-pdc-e5200.html This post has been edited by rndm: Oct 13 2008, 11:54 PM |
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Oct 16 2008, 03:10 PM
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QUOTE(krizalid88 @ Sep 16 2008, 05:55 PM) it's temp look like very high even i'm using CM212..maybe coz something wrong @ da thermalpaste... krizalid88.wat about the cpu 3dmark06 score?before oc and after oc.. very hard to OC dis proc with MSI mobo.. with dis mobo,my proc only can reach 2.9ghz with stock vcore.. i've try to push it further & just can reach to 3.411ghz with such a high vcore.. [attachmentid=594713] err..anybody can tell me any secret of da MSI mobo..? Added on October 17, 2008, 11:00 ami'm really interested in this E5200. Yeah. Added on October 17, 2008, 11:06 amCan Someone Suggest me What Brand of Mobo That the best for ths E5200 for overcloaking Purpose.Mobo that below RM200... Badget ma..This post has been edited by diadokmai: Oct 17 2008, 11:06 AM |
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Oct 17 2008, 11:49 AM
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3dmark06 with 9600gt @ 700/1750/1000 mhz & e5200 proc @ 3.4ghz
resolution : 1024x768 sry.. the info in the pic is kind of blocked but u can see that the proc is at 3.4ghz and its 9600gt.. i took this screenshot weeks ago and now i cant run 3dmark cuz i tried to reapply thermal paste and found out its finished after rubbing off the old layer gotto buy new thermal paste >_>  cpu score b4 oc'ed is around 2.4k or less if i recall correctly.. *at 1024x768* This post has been edited by Sprinz: Oct 17 2008, 11:51 AM |
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Oct 17 2008, 12:06 PM
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QUOTE(Sprinz @ Oct 17 2008, 11:49 AM) 3dmark06 with 9600gt @ 700/1750/1000 mhz & e5200 proc @ 3.4ghz Owh..very nice score la...thnks.but i want to ask if i only use stock cooler to oc how much GHZ can get.3.0ghz can?resolution : 1024x768 sry.. the info in the pic is kind of blocked but u can see that the proc is at 3.4ghz and its 9600gt.. i took this screenshot weeks ago and now i cant run 3dmark cuz i tried to reapply thermal paste and found out its finished after rubbing off the old layer gotto buy new thermal paste >_> cpu score b4 oc'ed is around 2.4k or less if i recall correctly.. *at 1024x768* |
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Oct 17 2008, 12:17 PM
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i was using stock cooler to get 3.4ghz stable..
check my post at page6.. (4th one) ..but i think my 13k 3dmark score is mainly due to my graphic card, since my bro with proc that performs almost same as mine get around 4k marks with 8500gt.. This post has been edited by Sprinz: Oct 17 2008, 12:45 PM |
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Oct 17 2008, 12:53 PM
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The CPU is 2.5Ghz right? But Vista is showing 1.9Ghz. I tried to set the multiply in BIOS (G31 mobo) but the max is 12X200Mhz = 2.4Ghz. Any thought?
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Oct 17 2008, 03:36 PM
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QUOTE(Sprinz @ Oct 17 2008, 12:17 PM) i was using stock cooler to get 3.4ghz stable.. Wah..This E5200 very good ma....3.4GHz using stock cooler...Haiya manyak Syok wo....check my post at page6.. (4th one) ..but i think my 13k 3dmark score is mainly due to my graphic card, since my bro with proc that performs almost same as mine get around 4k marks with 8500gt.. thnk for your info...sure i will buy this baby soon..yeah |
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Oct 17 2008, 04:54 PM
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not all e5200 can do 3.4 at stock voltage....u must be very2 lucky to get one....most of them can do above 3Ghz with just abit bump on voltage..
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Oct 17 2008, 05:01 PM
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QUOTE(Punish @ Oct 17 2008, 04:54 PM) not all e5200 can do 3.4 at stock voltage....u must be very2 lucky to get one....most of them can do above 3Ghz with just abit bump on voltage.. okeh..3.0Ghz above .. GTG ok le tu... mybe mobo also affect oc... |
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Oct 17 2008, 06:48 PM
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QUOTE(Sprinz @ Oct 17 2008, 12:17 PM) i was using stock cooler to get 3.4ghz stable.. i highly doubt its ur GC...check my post at page6.. (4th one) ..but i think my 13k 3dmark score is mainly due to my graphic card, since my bro with proc that performs almost same as mine get around 4k marks with 8500gt.. coz i have an E8400 (stock) + Zotac 9800GT Amp! in the office and if im not mistaken im getting around 12+ besides.... 3dmark06 is VERY CPU dependant... so its ur CPU thats seriously boosting up ur score. This post has been edited by mADmAN: Oct 17 2008, 06:49 PM |
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Oct 17 2008, 10:13 PM
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[quote=diadokmai,Oct 16 2008, 03:10 PM]
krizalid88.wat about the cpu 3dmark06 score?before oc and after oc.. my cpu score when oc: [attachmentid=633799] This post has been edited by krizalid88: Oct 17 2008, 10:13 PM |
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Oct 17 2008, 10:29 PM
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QUOTE(Sprinz @ Oct 17 2008, 11:49 AM) 3dmark06 with 9600gt @ 700/1750/1000 mhz & e5200 proc @ 3.4ghz wtf???my e3110 3.6ghz + 9600gt 12xxx oni u get 13xxx hwt happenresolution : 1024x768 sry.. the info in the pic is kind of blocked but u can see that the proc is at 3.4ghz and its 9600gt.. i took this screenshot weeks ago and now i cant run 3dmark cuz i tried to reapply thermal paste and found out its finished after rubbing off the old layer gotto buy new thermal paste >_> cpu score b4 oc'ed is around 2.4k or less if i recall correctly.. *at 1024x768* |
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Oct 17 2008, 11:08 PM
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Look at his resolution, its 1024x768, resolution does affect the bench as well. I doubt u use higher resolution thats why get 12k.
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Oct 18 2008, 03:23 AM
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haiyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.......missed the resolution part...
change settings for wat??? leave it at stock settings then test la....like that then only u can properly compare with other people.... 3dm06 is 1280*1024 on stock settings if i remember correctly.... |
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Oct 18 2008, 03:39 AM
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yes it is 1280x1024 if u didnt touch anything from it, if reduced resolution sure can shoot higher, so best way dont change setting if not u hard to compare the results with other.
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Oct 18 2008, 08:22 AM
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QUOTE(lotiman2003 @ Oct 17 2008, 12:53 PM) The CPU is 2.5Ghz right? But Vista is showing 1.9Ghz. I tried to set the multiply in BIOS (G31 mobo) but the max is 12X200Mhz = 2.4Ghz. Any thought? check ur EIST or C1E settings in the bios..its the kind of the intel seepdstep techology..reduces multiplier when idling and uses all multiplier at load... |
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Oct 18 2008, 05:11 PM
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QUOTE(lotiman2003 @ Oct 17 2008, 12:53 PM) The CPU is 2.5Ghz right? But Vista is showing 1.9Ghz. I tried to set the multiply in BIOS (G31 mobo) but the max is 12X200Mhz = 2.4Ghz. Any thought? or maybe try update mobo firmware ..since my e5200 set its multiplier to 6 and that's like 1.2ghz when speedstepping.. just my 2cents... btw.. i only get 11390pt when using default resolution.. my old ss used 1024x768 because i using old 4:3 crt monitor and removed my stock thermal paste so cant run 3dmark at 1280x1024.. therefore i just posted my old 3dmarks screenshot.. sorry for confusion caused..  now using tuniq tx-2 and reduced the temp by like 5c when full load..  This post has been edited by Sprinz: Oct 18 2008, 05:19 PM |
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Oct 18 2008, 09:44 PM
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excuse me, i wan to ask a question
X2 3800+ compare with E5200 which 1 gives better performance? This post has been edited by noos: Oct 18 2008, 09:50 PM |
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Oct 19 2008, 01:14 AM
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Thank for ur info bro...
GO for E5200, X2 3800+ only can score 1400+- compare to E5200 can got 2400+- in 3dmarks06 under normal frequency. If Overcloak E5200 still the winner.coz E5200 can oc more than X2 3800. E5200 is means to fight X2 5000+ and above AMD model. X2 3800 only can compare to E2160. E5200 X2 3800  This post has been edited by diadokmai: Oct 19 2008, 02:24 AM |
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Oct 19 2008, 01:35 AM
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heres my achievement, manage to get it running at 3.6Ghz@ 1.31v stable using stock cooler. i think if i tune the GTL and etc.. i can get lower voltage but didnt have time to do that
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Oct 19 2008, 02:15 AM
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QUOTE(Volt @ Oct 19 2008, 01:35 AM) heres my achievement, manage to get it running at 3.6Ghz@ 1.31v stable using stock cooler. i think if i tune the GTL and etc.. i can get lower voltage but didnt have time to do that Nice oc there..i hv question..u change buss speed and cpu voltage in bios? or use software? i'm not very good in oc..before this i only change the buss speed in bios..to oc..voltage not change... This post has been edited by diadokmai: Oct 19 2008, 02:19 AM |
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Oct 19 2008, 02:27 AM
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yup i only change the fsb and voltage in the bios. dont really like to use software to oc my computer but ppl say DFI ABS system is quite good. Will try it if have some free time
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Oct 19 2008, 05:29 AM
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QUOTE(Volt @ Oct 19 2008, 02:27 AM) yup i only change the fsb and voltage in the bios. dont really like to use software to oc my computer but ppl say DFI ABS system is quite good. Will try it if have some free time oh.. |
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QUOTE(diadokmai @ Oct 19 2008, 01:14 AM) Thank for ur info bro... Thx for ur reply~GO for E5200, X2 3800+ only can score 1400+- compare to E5200 can got 2400+- in 3dmarks06 under normal frequency. If Overcloak E5200 still the winner.coz E5200 can oc more than X2 3800. E5200 is means to fight X2 5000+ and above AMD model. X2 3800 only can compare to E2160. E5200 X2 3800 i will change E5200 due to low budget.... |
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Oct 19 2008, 10:31 AM
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QUOTE(Volt @ Oct 19 2008, 01:35 AM) heres my achievement, manage to get it running at 3.6Ghz@ 1.31v stable using stock cooler. i think if i tune the GTL and etc.. i can get lower voltage but didnt have time to do that DFI user always can oc kaw2..hehehe.. |
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Oct 19 2008, 02:20 PM
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My Setup,
all standart voltage 3ghz (240 x 12.5) 
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Oct 20 2008, 10:46 AM
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QUOTE(noos @ Oct 19 2008, 09:42 AM) Thx for ur reply~ Low Budget and Greater Performance..Yeah i will change E5200 due to low budget.... E5200 also beats the crap X2 6000+ in most performance test..refer this http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/displ...dc-e5200_6.html E52 Someone know the lowest price for this CPU? in my area,Skudai.It cost Around RM270-280..If Below Rm250.very good ma... X2 6000+ still Above Rm300.. Added on October 22, 2008, 1:13 pmGot my E5200 yesterday..can play Assasin CreEd in 1280 resolution with all high setting with my HD4670 .very smooth.yeah!! This post has been edited by diadokmai: Oct 22 2008, 01:13 PM |
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Oct 22 2008, 06:20 PM
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e5200 is a budget proc and can reach high speed but will not be able to reach high fsb..thats a letdown
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Oct 25 2008, 03:56 AM
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Hows the Bluray Disc playback and 1080 Mkv playback guys? smooth ? thanks in advance plz post which Graph using as well
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Oct 28 2008, 12:35 PM
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can i know wad type of mobo suits E5200? i mean without update bios n straight can use de.
Added on October 28, 2008, 12:36 pmis it any P35/P43/P45 mobo can straight use without update bios? This post has been edited by michaelyii1988: Oct 28 2008, 12:36 PM |
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Oct 28 2008, 04:57 PM
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QUOTE(michaelyii1988 @ Oct 28 2008, 12:35 PM) can i know wad type of mobo suits E5200? i mean without update bios n straight can use de. Those new mobo stock mostly can run the CPU without update the bios because it is shipped with latest bios already.Added on October 28, 2008, 12:36 pmis it any P35/P43/P45 mobo can straight use without update bios? |
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Oct 29 2008, 12:33 AM
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depends on wat board..like dfi bloodiron p35 t2l cannot run 45nm proc...u nid to plugin 65nm proc to flash bios den oni can run 45nm proc
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Nov 3 2008, 06:23 PM
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3.25ghz stable using stock cooler vcore is kinda high at 1.33 though. Anyone knows what's the "safe" vcore for this e5200? |
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Nov 4 2008, 03:32 AM
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i play mine till 1.375v 3.6Ghz...stock cooler lagi...max temp barely touch 72*c
your 1.33v should do at least 3.4 stable.... GTG This post has been edited by Punish: Nov 4 2008, 03:41 AM |
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Nov 4 2008, 10:29 AM
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QUOTE(Punish @ Nov 4 2008, 03:32 AM) i play mine till 1.375v 3.6Ghz...stock cooler lagi...max temp barely touch 72*c That's good news.your 1.33v should do at least 3.4 stable.... GTG Anyway, if you OC this proc that high, what kind of c2d proc can you compare it with? |
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Nov 4 2008, 02:33 PM
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QUOTE(Punish @ Nov 4 2008, 03:32 AM) i play mine till 1.375v 3.6Ghz...stock cooler lagi...max temp barely touch 72*c Mm.. I'll bump up and see what I can get.your 1.33v should do at least 3.4 stable.... GTG |
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Nov 4 2008, 04:21 PM
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Using DFI P35 T2RL + E5200.Can go in.
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Nov 4 2008, 04:51 PM
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E5200
asus p5kpl coolermaster hyper 212 erm. how many ghz i can reach . stable one =D |
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Nov 4 2008, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE(sunny93 @ Nov 4 2008, 04:51 PM) E5200 Why don't you try and tell us?asus p5kpl coolermaster hyper 212 erm. how many ghz i can reach . stable one =D |
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Nov 4 2008, 08:53 PM
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= = first time then kaboom ?
neva OC b4 |
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Nov 4 2008, 09:45 PM
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Google around for guides.
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Nov 4 2008, 11:05 PM
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3.4Ghz on stock vcore now.So far stable in gaming.And tested intel burntest for 10 minute.
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Nov 4 2008, 11:06 PM
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QUOTE(Oxburg @ Nov 4 2008, 11:05 PM) 3.4Ghz on stock vcore now.So far stable in gaming.And tested intel burntest for 10 minute. I'm wishing to buy this processor. Can do 3.2ghz with stock cooler?This post has been edited by Shah_15: Nov 4 2008, 11:07 PM |
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Nov 4 2008, 11:19 PM
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stock cooler =O ! ? walau. i got cooler can 3.8 then ?
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Nov 4 2008, 11:20 PM
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QUOTE(sunny93 @ Nov 4 2008, 11:19 PM) stock cooler =O ! ? walau. i got cooler can 3.8 then ? what do you mean?? |
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Nov 4 2008, 11:22 PM
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coolermaster hyper 212 this cooler =| what is stock cooler = = |
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Nov 4 2008, 11:30 PM
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QUOTE(sunny93 @ Nov 4 2008, 11:22 PM) coolermaster hyper 212 stock cooler is the that came with the proc la....btw, hows your OC?this cooler =| what is stock cooler = = |
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Nov 4 2008, 11:31 PM
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didt OC yet. risky for beginner. i put pic after OC =D
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Nov 4 2008, 11:40 PM
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if you'r 1st timer oc....just adjust the fsb without having to adjust the voltage....its call save overclocking....i recon this e5200 should do at least 2.9-3.0 with stock volage....
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Nov 4 2008, 11:55 PM
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Nope with CM GeminII .Found out 3.4Ghz not pass at stock. 3.3Ghz is tested to pass on default vcore.Testing 3.3Ghz >
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Nov 5 2008, 12:18 AM
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QUOTE(Oxburg @ Nov 4 2008, 11:55 PM) Nope with CM GeminII .Found out 3.4Ghz not pass at stock. 3.3Ghz is tested to pass on default vcore.Testing 3.3Ghz > tweak it a bit more. |
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Nov 5 2008, 12:24 AM
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1.25Vcore 3.4Ghz fail at 1 min + ..................bad
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Nov 5 2008, 01:28 AM
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GeminII ahh......bang 1.35v 3.6 u should be fine...
do it on your own risk..lol GTG This post has been edited by Punish: Nov 5 2008, 01:31 AM |
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Nov 5 2008, 01:32 AM
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I plan to buy tis proc. So help me yer.....can this proc reach 3.3ghz on stock vcore and stock cooler??
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Nov 5 2008, 01:45 AM
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depent on your luck....the earlyer batch have a good chance to reach it...
but honestly i would say...this proc is better in term of overclockablity than the e6 series....mine can boot at 3.7 at certain voltage... GTG This post has been edited by Punish: Nov 5 2008, 01:48 AM |
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Nov 5 2008, 11:23 AM
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I run back 3.3Ghz now.Before 3.4Ghz at 1.25Vcore gaming all pass but fail on orthos in 1 minute.
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Nov 5 2008, 12:31 PM
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QUOTE(Oxburg @ Nov 5 2008, 11:23 AM) I run back 3.3Ghz now.Before 3.4Ghz at 1.25Vcore gaming all pass but fail on orthos in 1 minute. Ever try running Super PI or 3Dmark06?? I wonder what is the CPU scores. |
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Nov 5 2008, 01:31 PM
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QUOTE(Punish @ Nov 4 2008, 11:40 PM) if you'r 1st timer oc....just adjust the fsb without having to adjust the voltage....its call save overclocking....i recon this e5200 should do at least 2.9-3.0 with stock volage.... stock voltage mean like watt one?goodluck GTG i use this BLUESTORM II 500 500W ATX 2.2 |
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Nov 5 2008, 01:32 PM
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Ok.I will do it when i free.Facing exam soon. = =''
Below is the SS of the test i tested yesterday. 
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Nov 5 2008, 04:12 PM
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QUOTE(Oxburg @ Nov 5 2008, 01:32 PM) Ok.I will do it when i free.Facing exam soon. = ='' When you free, post it okay bro. Need to collect information before i go buy this processor.Below is the SS of the test i tested yesterday.
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Nov 5 2008, 05:09 PM
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e5200 is a good processor....it just got 1 drawback....the fsb is limited to 320-350.....mine can only go 330....but they provide it with a high Multiplier so u still can go up to 4Ghz if u have the guts...
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Nov 5 2008, 06:59 PM
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QUOTE(Punish @ Nov 5 2008, 05:09 PM) e5200 is a good processor....it just got 1 drawback....the fsb is limited to 320-350.....mine can only go 330....but they provide it with a high Multiplier so u still can go up to 4Ghz if u have the guts... Ya, e5200 is very worth to buy..High overclockable and only RM275 GTG |
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Nov 5 2008, 10:14 PM
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Just tested 3D mark vanatge
Attached thumbnail(s) 
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Nov 5 2008, 10:22 PM
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so far. who can OC till 4ghz? maybe can kick E8400's butt
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Nov 5 2008, 10:31 PM
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QUOTE(sunny93 @ Nov 5 2008, 10:22 PM) so far. who can OC till 4ghz? maybe can kick E8400's butt But i think e8400 still perform better than this bcoz it already 3ghz and easy to hit 4ghz with E0 stepping... |
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Nov 5 2008, 10:54 PM
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erm.. i mean E8400 without OC =)
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Nov 5 2008, 11:22 PM
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wah..how to kick e8400's butt?come on..this proc is juz 2mb cache?wanna war wif 6mb cache?
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Nov 5 2008, 11:46 PM
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its in the cache and who buy a E8400 for gaming and didnt overclock them.........
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Nov 6 2008, 02:27 AM
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nope u never gonna kick e8 with e5.....e8 can achieve 4ghz with just 1.2 something voltage....6mb cache somemore....
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Nov 6 2008, 06:05 AM
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last time i read ppl's article .
it say e2200 with 4ghz SAME PERFORMANCE e8400. [ no OC ] |
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Nov 6 2008, 08:37 AM
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wel...its u saying and quoting it...i cant comment...2mb cache and 6mb cache is totally a different thg...4ghz e2200 will give u about 1452fsb..compared to e8400 stock 3.0ghz 1333fsb...btw, 4ghz achieveable in 11X or 8X?
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Nov 6 2008, 09:49 AM
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Interm of my upgrade i would say synthesis benchmark cannot compare different cache proccessor especially there is big different one.I myself experienced 1MB and 2MB cache.2MB cache is faster interm of usage of pc while in benchmark doesnt faster alot if in same clock.
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Nov 7 2008, 01:42 PM
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tats the point..how could possibly a 4ghz, wif less den 1333mhz fsb and 2mb cache beat a 3.0, 1333fsb and a 6mb l2 cache?
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Nov 7 2008, 05:20 PM
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QUOTE(seanlimys @ Nov 7 2008, 01:42 PM) tats the point..how could possibly a 4ghz, wif less den 1333mhz fsb and 2mb cache beat a 3.0, 1333fsb and a 6mb l2 cache? Price :performance? power consumption? heat? hahahahahahaah just kidding la This post has been edited by bryanyeo87: Nov 7 2008, 05:22 PM |
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Nov 7 2008, 08:54 PM
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yea..thats the thg..like i say...cannot compare performance at all....hahahha
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Nov 8 2008, 01:20 AM
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why i can pass intel burntest but fail orthos at 5 min? gaming 2 hour also no problem.
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Nov 8 2008, 01:41 AM
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umm... i cant seems to find any review bout this cpu on the net...
can any1 point me a link? |
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Nov 8 2008, 01:51 AM
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Nov 8 2008, 06:26 AM
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QUOTE(Oxburg @ Nov 8 2008, 01:20 AM) why i can pass intel burntest but fail orthos at 5 min? gaming 2 hour also no problem. need to bump your voltage abit....stock voltage alone is not enuff to supply 3.30Ghz....geminII should be not problem if your bump up the volt abit...GTG |
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Nov 8 2008, 10:25 AM
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QUOTE(Oxburg @ Nov 8 2008, 01:20 AM) why i can pass intel burntest but fail orthos at 5 min? gaming 2 hour also no problem. Try prime95 and see. |
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Nov 8 2008, 11:02 AM
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Yeah Orthos Prim95 i tried.Fail at 5 Min +
BTW my idle core0 and core1 very high around 48-50C. why? But load also normal 60+ |
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Nov 8 2008, 02:29 PM
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QUOTE(chanws8 @ Nov 8 2008, 01:51 AM) thx bro |
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Nov 8 2008, 02:51 PM
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Guys who know how to tune memory internal timing?I feel my memory quite slow.
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Nov 8 2008, 08:34 PM
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920Mhz 44412 is quite fast bro...
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Nov 8 2008, 08:54 PM
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i wonder is this worth getting instead of c2d? cuz c2d price still abit high
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Nov 8 2008, 08:57 PM
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huge upgrade from your P4.....u really gonna feel the different...for budget user who want to taste high clock, e5 is the chip for you...
GTG This post has been edited by Punish: Nov 8 2008, 08:58 PM |
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Nov 9 2008, 08:10 AM
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well..firstly..wats ur budget..if u got a low budget...go for allngap's e6420 oem proc and get a stock heatsink oso ok...huge 4mb l2 cache..haha
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Nov 9 2008, 06:34 PM
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Hi can i know what is the exactly tjmax for E5200? I found out my core0 and core1 idlling temp around 48-50C.
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Nov 9 2008, 09:30 PM
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QUOTE(Oxburg @ Nov 9 2008, 06:34 PM) Hi can i know what is the exactly tjmax for E5200? I found out my core0 and core1 idlling temp around 48-50C. 45nm should be 100C |
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Nov 10 2008, 12:29 AM
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Nice proc for overclocking ? 0.0
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Nov 10 2008, 09:16 AM
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QUOTE(hakimz @ Nov 10 2008, 12:29 AM) Nice proc for overclocking ? 0.0 An awesome one. |
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Nov 10 2008, 10:48 AM
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nice.but..u wudnt hav so much fsb...high core speed but low fsb
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Nov 10 2008, 10:52 AM
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i would've bought this processor instead of E7200 but it wasn't out yet that time. 1 week later only came out.
but my E7200 can do 425Mhz. |
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Nov 10 2008, 11:30 AM
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managed to bring my E5200 to 3.6Ghz @ 1.3vcore the other day with stock Q6600 hsf.
can boot into windows just fine... but failed orthos after.... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Nov 10 2008, 12:41 PM
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Nice procs, can easily go above 3GHz on my cheapo Gigabyte mobo with stock hsf. Idle temp around 46C, and full load around 58C.
Is it possible to lower down the full load temp if I change the thermal paste to Tuniq TX-2? |
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Nov 10 2008, 12:47 PM
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QUOTE(syazone @ Nov 9 2008, 09:30 PM) 45nm should be 100C Possible to get some prove statement?Because i google alot also no exact result.All is assumption. |
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Nov 10 2008, 12:50 PM
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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Nov 10 2008, 11:30 AM) managed to bring my E5200 to 3.6Ghz @ 1.3vcore the other day with stock Q6600 hsf. i bet its gonna need much more vcore to stable orthos.....yup that is 1 thing this e5200 good at....its still gonna boot even though its not stable at all....lol..can boot into windows just fine... but failed orthos after.... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « GTG |
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Nov 10 2008, 01:00 PM
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last time i just need 1.31v to get it stable at 3.6ghz
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Nov 10 2008, 01:29 PM
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ur lucky then...
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Nov 10 2008, 01:30 PM
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still haven't got my E5200. I cannot hold this feel anymore!!!
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Nov 10 2008, 05:20 PM
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i kinda doubt its the voltage... im guessing its most likely the ram settings which i need to play with
using gigabyte eg45m-ds2h mobo.....oh well...not gonna waste too much time on it though... its meant for torrent + htpc. so low power consumption is a must |
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Nov 11 2008, 06:06 PM
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QUOTE(Oxburg @ Nov 9 2008, 06:34 PM) Hi can i know what is the exactly tjmax for E5200? I found out my core0 and core1 idlling temp around 48-50C. Hi can anyone answer my question percisely? |
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Nov 11 2008, 07:10 PM
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My coretemp shows 100 C
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Nov 11 2008, 07:44 PM
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SERIOUS?haha...come on...wat cooler ur using?stock? going to hit tj max soon
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Nov 12 2008, 05:52 AM
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is e5200 worth it than e7200?considering budget pc for my fren...and maybe even me self as im jumping to intel to try oc
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Nov 12 2008, 06:23 AM
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QUOTE(maxburnz @ Nov 12 2008, 05:52 AM) is e5200 worth it than e7200?considering budget pc for my fren...and maybe even me self as im jumping to intel to try oc If you have the budget, just go for E7200. E5200 is budget processor who want to overclock but can't afford high price exclusive processor such as E8400, E8600.. |
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Nov 12 2008, 01:30 PM
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QUOTE(seanlimys @ Nov 11 2008, 07:44 PM) SERIOUS?haha...come on...wat cooler ur using?stock? going to hit tj max soon What I said was the tjmax is 100C. Someone asked. |
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Nov 12 2008, 03:25 PM
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QUOTE(maxburnz @ Nov 12 2008, 05:52 AM) is e5200 worth it than e7200?considering budget pc for my fren...and maybe even me self as im jumping to intel to try oc if i was u i choose e5200 , cos e7200 and e5200 just L2 cahce diff only . other not much diff |
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Nov 12 2008, 06:08 PM
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QUOTE(likito @ Nov 12 2008, 03:25 PM) if i was u i choose e5200 , cos e7200 and e5200 just L2 cahce diff only . other not much diff L2 cache really made the different dude. Higher L2 cache mean your proc can process more data at higher rate. |
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Nov 12 2008, 07:25 PM
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both proc is really totally different architecture...price to performance ratio for both thgs are totally out of the way...sure if we hav extra budget...y we oni wanna go for e7200 retail? better go for e8400 oem...l2 cache is the thg that made the price so much different
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Nov 13 2008, 02:50 AM
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l2 really improve a lot in performance?
but value for money then means e5200 wins rite? no wonder amd lose a lot when compaer to intel. |
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Nov 13 2008, 06:37 AM
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QUOTE(seanlimys @ Nov 12 2008, 07:25 PM) both proc is really totally different architecture...price to performance ratio for both thgs are totally out of the way...sure if we hav extra budget...y we oni wanna go for e7200 retail? better go for e8400 oem...l2 cache is the thg that made the price so much different E5200 = WolfdaleE7200 = Wolfdale so you were saying totally different architecture? QUOTE(maxburnz @ Nov 13 2008, 02:50 AM) l2 really improve a lot in performance? more L2 cache meaning when the situation need it, you have the advantage.but value for money then means e5200 wins rite? stock vs stock, you must remember that while the E5200 is same architecture as E7200 the difference is in the 1. Cache 2. FSB so clock vs clock, the E7200 is the faster one. (if you still can get it la. if not then E7300 lor). |
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Nov 13 2008, 09:10 AM
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Nov 13 2008, 06:37 AM) E5200 = Wolfdale E5200 vs E7200, so which is better performance overall?E7200 = Wolfdale so you were saying totally different architecture? more L2 cache meaning when the situation need it, you have the advantage. stock vs stock, you must remember that while the E5200 is same architecture as E7200 the difference is in the 1. Cache 2. FSB so clock vs clock, the E7200 is the faster one. (if you still can get it la. if not then E7300 lor). I just noticed the Dual Core series is still called Pentium Dual Core??? i tot pentium obsolete alredi, |
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Nov 13 2008, 09:20 AM
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QUOTE(ericpires @ Nov 13 2008, 09:10 AM) E5200 vs E7200, so which is better performance overall? IINM obviously e7200 better I just noticed the Dual Core series is still called Pentium Dual Core??? i tot pentium obsolete alredi, |
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Nov 13 2008, 10:00 AM
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QUOTE(ericpires @ Nov 13 2008, 09:10 AM) E5200 vs E7200, so which is better performance overall? the one that cost more of course performs better. and i highlighted already in the earlier post, E7200 has more cache and higher FSB for the same clock speed, so YES it's better! QUOTE(ericpires @ Nov 13 2008, 09:10 AM) I just noticed the Dual Core series is still called Pentium Dual Core??? i tot pentium obsolete alredi, don't go by name. it's just the name Pentium, to indicate the lower range. just as how the E2xxx series was. |
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Nov 13 2008, 10:05 AM
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lol
bro goldfries...sorry..juz noticed its a wolfdale..but still...i would like to stress here...larger cache is always better and more exp.. |
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Nov 13 2008, 04:49 PM
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QUOTE(ericpires @ Nov 13 2008, 09:10 AM) E5200 vs E7200, so which is better performance overall? Who cares about their name? As long as their performance not on par with pentium 1,11, 111, and 4 and The performance is the utmost important.I just noticed the Dual Core series is still called Pentium Dual Core??? i tot pentium obsolete alredi, |
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Nov 13 2008, 06:25 PM
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lol..juz like saga..new saga come out..so can compare both models?who cares about their name?hahaha
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Nov 13 2008, 06:26 PM
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QUOTE(ericpires @ Nov 13 2008, 09:10 AM) E5200 vs E7200, so which is better performance overall? although its called Pentium Dual Core its still based on the Core 2 architecture.I just noticed the Dual Core series is still called Pentium Dual Core??? i tot pentium obsolete alredi, |
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Nov 13 2008, 06:33 PM
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this is the interesting part of this proc..c2d architecture in pd proc
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Nov 13 2008, 06:53 PM
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it's been like that for a while already la. since more than a year ago also got such thing already.
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Nov 13 2008, 07:12 PM
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Anymore E5200 user ? Can report your idle / load temp? Thanks!
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Nov 13 2008, 07:18 PM
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using it but lazy to care for the temp
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Nov 13 2008, 08:05 PM
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Is the statement written by some people saying that E5200 performance is on par with AMD X2 6000+ is legit? I'm hoping E5200 performance is way beyond AMD X2 series.
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Nov 13 2008, 09:06 PM
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actually..i still duno where the amd proc stands between intel proc..6000??some say about e7200???
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Nov 13 2008, 09:34 PM
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QUOTE(seanlimys @ Nov 13 2008, 09:06 PM) actually..i still duno where the amd proc stands between intel proc..6000??some say about e7200??? see here for benchmarkshttp://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/displ...-pdc-e5200.html |
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Nov 13 2008, 09:35 PM
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thanks for the link...to me..its hard to compare both amd and intel...
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Nov 13 2008, 09:42 PM
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idle at 40 + -
100% load at 62 + - stock cooler. |
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Nov 13 2008, 10:31 PM
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not bad temp for such speed
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Nov 14 2008, 01:53 AM
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now e7200 the best value for money..but e5200 and e7200 price diff more than rm100..a lot of performance upgrade for a lot of money to..
i read your blog goldfries and im very liking it..u use e7200 rite..but if im not mistaken..you said you want to buy e5200 rite? |
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Nov 14 2008, 01:55 AM
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thanks. E7200 you can still find? nowadays E7300.
me ah? a lot of things to buy but budget not around. |
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Nov 14 2008, 02:15 AM
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hah...budget overclocker or budget reviewer?
yaa...notice that its hard to find e7200...but i read somewhere that people should consider e5200 for the lowest power consumption with powerful dual core performance.. but i found that people hardly care about power consumption...hmm.. |
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Nov 14 2008, 02:19 AM
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QUOTE(z3alousn3ss @ Nov 13 2008, 09:42 PM) idle at 40 + - wow so low? I also around same with you...how come? Vcore?100% load at 62 + - stock cooler. |
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Nov 14 2008, 11:05 AM
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air cond room kua?
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Nov 14 2008, 06:23 PM
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Can i know why my core0 and core1 is so hot. Idle around 47-50C even it running at stock and stock vcore ( 2.5GHz @ 1.200Vcore ). But at cpu temp it show 26-27 at idle while 50+ when load. How come?
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Nov 14 2008, 06:47 PM
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QUOTE(Oxburg @ Nov 14 2008, 02:19 AM) wow so low? I also around same with you...how come? Vcore? I'm unlucky. My Vcore is around 1.33 i think. Will double check next time i restart |
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Nov 14 2008, 10:32 PM
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try to lower sumore if can lo...
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Nov 15 2008, 08:02 PM
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yep. my vcore is 1.33
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Nov 15 2008, 11:55 PM
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icic..den cudnt help u den to get better temp..chg cooler lo
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Nov 16 2008, 09:56 AM
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Dual Core E5200 is okay to run normal games? Like mid-range games ra, witcher, fifa09?
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Nov 16 2008, 10:00 AM
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, got this E5200 from rlhc17, straight go to 4GHz, but failed maybe i'm too fast... now on 3.33GHz with 10x, eh... btw... the multiplier is 12x?, because once installed, my DK P35 T2R-S detect as 8x with 200MHz |
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Nov 16 2008, 11:01 AM
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disable CIE and EIST in BIOS
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Nov 16 2008, 11:04 AM
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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Nov 16 2008, 10:00 AM) , got this E5200 from rlhc17, straight go to 4GHz, but failed maybe i'm too fast... now on 3.33GHz with 10x, eh... btw... the multiplier is 12x?, because once installed, my DK P35 T2R-S detect as 8x with 200MHz |
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Nov 16 2008, 12:34 PM
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yeap to be exact it's 12.5X, but i still prefer it 12X since that's what by default my board already set, need to enable 0.5X multiplier...
 anyway... used to use with E2160 with 400MHz FSB, but seems i can't go 400MHz on this E5200, gonna have need more time for tweaking process... |
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Nov 17 2008, 12:55 AM
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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Nov 16 2008, 12:34 PM) yeap to be exact it's 12.5X, but i still prefer it 12X since that's what by default my board already set, need to enable 0.5X multiplier... That is normal as E5200 FSB wall is low in general so oc E5200 is kinda like QX,make up for lack of FSB with 12.5x multi anyway... used to use with E2160 with 400MHz FSB, but seems i can't go 400MHz on this E5200, gonna have need more time for tweaking process... |
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Nov 17 2008, 11:56 PM
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yea..i love high fsb..haha
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Nov 20 2008, 08:08 PM
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Just got my E5200 today....installing vista right now...
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Nov 20 2008, 11:21 PM
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enjoy...oc kau kau
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Nov 21 2008, 12:28 AM
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Oc-ed it to 3.3Ghz using Stock Cooler. Average temp is around 58C.
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QUOTE(Shah_15 @ Nov 21 2008, 12:28 AM) Oc-ed it to 3.3Ghz using Stock Cooler. Average temp is around 58C. Details? FSB, multiplier and RAM speed? |
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Nov 21 2008, 01:40 AM
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QUOTE(lex @ Nov 21 2008, 12:45 AM) Details? FSB, multiplier and RAM speed? FSB is 275mhz. Multiplier is 12x. Ram speed is 733mhz.But i lowered it down to 3.0ghz atm. Load temp for 3.3ghz is way high for stock cooler. 82C. |
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Nov 21 2008, 01:52 AM
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QUOTE(Shah_15 @ Nov 21 2008, 12:28 AM) Oc-ed it to 3.3Ghz using Stock Cooler. Average temp is around 58C. vcore? my vcore is 1.33 and im running mine at 3.25 with idle at 40C and 100% load at 60C |
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Nov 21 2008, 11:20 AM
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enuf ad lo..not bad ma..stock cooler wor..
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Nov 21 2008, 12:48 PM
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My Vcore is 1.22v at 3.1ghz. Stock Cooler....scared to raised at 3.3ghz after saw my load temp is 82C.
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Nov 21 2008, 01:22 PM
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may i know why is the proc price keep increasing?
say for example the E8600 from RM620 to now RM690 |
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Nov 21 2008, 01:50 PM
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QUOTE(jolipoli81 @ Nov 21 2008, 01:22 PM) may i know why is the proc price keep increasing? Mostly caused by USD to MYR rate is increase. Reach 3.60 this day.say for example the E8600 from RM620 to now RM690 |
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Nov 22 2008, 02:19 AM
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QUOTE(jolipoli81 @ Nov 21 2008, 01:22 PM) may i know why is the proc price keep increasing? Errr.........E8600 price is more like RM900 lehsay for example the E8600 from RM620 to now RM690 |
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Nov 22 2008, 02:55 AM
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I managed to OC-ed my E5200 to 3.5Ghz with 1.312 vcore. Running 3Dmark right now.
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Nov 22 2008, 03:37 AM
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QUOTE(Shah_15 @ Nov 22 2008, 02:55 AM) I managed to OC-ed my E5200 to 3.5Ghz with 1.312 vcore. Running 3Dmark right now. Just wondering... Are you planning to get a better HSF later? |
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Nov 22 2008, 03:45 AM
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QUOTE(lex @ Nov 22 2008, 03:37 AM) Just wondering... Are you planning to get a better HSF later? Yes. If enough budget, i will like to get Sunbeam CCF.QUOTE(spideysam @ Nov 22 2008, 03:43 AM) 1.312 vcore is software oc???? hmmm... want learn how oc my gaming pc i getting next year.. but oc no use oh?? got much difference if play game with oc a bit more??? gc more important.. What do you mean by software OC? |
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Nov 22 2008, 03:50 AM
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vcore is voltage that processor needed. Its not a software. If you want to increasing your clock speed, your proc going to need more power, so i increase the from 1.18v to 1.312 v.
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Nov 22 2008, 03:51 AM
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QUOTE(Shah_15 @ Nov 22 2008, 03:50 AM) vcore is voltage that processor needed. Its not a software. If you want to increasing your clock speed, your proc going to need more power, so i increase the from 1.18v to 1.312 v. ooo lol.. ya oh.. lol thought v is version.. got any difference if gaming???? |
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Nov 22 2008, 03:54 AM
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Don't know. Haven't test it yet with game. But i certainly need better cooler if want to use 3.5ghz 24/7. Right now stick with 3.0ghz..
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Nov 22 2008, 03:56 AM
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so tis dual core is value for money rather than going for quad core...... coz vista dont need quad core for it 2 run also.. but i feel vista eat a lot memory easily.. 2gb ddr2 not tat good..
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Nov 22 2008, 04:09 AM
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If you got the money, why not go straight for quad core. This processor is only worth to people that want to get performance for budget price tag.
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Nov 22 2008, 04:21 AM
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Yea...E5200 is already sufficient for gaming...
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Nov 22 2008, 10:04 AM
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sufficient is one thg...but...keep in mind...e5200 is a high speed proc after oc but has low cache and low fsb...i do believe these two factors held them back by E6XXX series..e5200 perhaps cud be a e4XXX series successor with 45nm...and higher multiplier...
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Nov 22 2008, 10:09 AM
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QUOTE(Shah_15 @ Nov 22 2008, 04:21 AM) Yea...E5200 is already sufficient for gaming... yup, if u overclock ur processor to 3.2 - 3.4 ghz i think it enough for todays game |
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Nov 22 2008, 10:54 AM
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gaming still focus on gc...
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Nov 22 2008, 01:58 PM
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true but gc will be under utilizes if the processor is slow
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Nov 22 2008, 06:20 PM
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QUOTE(Volt @ Nov 22 2008, 01:58 PM) true but gc will be under utilizes if the processor is slow ya tat i was thinking.. but i read still sli or dual card the performance not much difference... even if good oc still not much difference wit sli or dual card?? rather get a good single gc... |
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Nov 22 2008, 08:53 PM
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SLI doesn't mean you will get 2x performance of single card. SLI just give you 20% more performance than single card. Might aswell take that money buy better single graphic card.
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Nov 22 2008, 09:23 PM
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QUOTE(Shah_15 @ Nov 22 2008, 08:53 PM) SLI doesn't mean you will get 2x performance of single card. SLI just give you 20% more performance than single card. Might aswell take that money buy better single graphic card. Its not THAT bad, it requires driver support for any particular game to get the most out of it. Its not like only 20%, if that so why do they bother with Quad SLi and such? What I mean is, driver plays big role for multi GPU to shines |
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Nov 22 2008, 09:27 PM
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GC is the big part about performance but well tweak system do play a part as well
To get the best out of mid end gc,you need something like 500x8.5,6MB cache 1:1 divider and PL9,or any setting that can yield 9000-11k bandwidth as you got to remember,texture is store on ram before being send out to gc to process so the best gaming processor is E8xxx as you could tweak it nicely |
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Nov 22 2008, 11:26 PM
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QUOTE(Najmods @ Nov 22 2008, 09:23 PM) Its not THAT bad, it requires driver support for any particular game to get the most out of it. Its not like only 20%, if that so why do they bother with Quad SLi and such? What I mean is, driver plays big role for multi GPU to shines I know but plus heat factor, power consumption, its not worth it. At least for me.This post has been edited by Shah_15: Nov 23 2008, 12:48 AM |
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Nov 22 2008, 11:49 PM
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QUOTE(Shah_15 @ Nov 22 2008, 11:26 PM) I know but plus heat factor, power comsuption, its not worth it. At least for me. yup me 2... coz not worth it also...... lol.... better bling the pc casing also.. lol |
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Nov 24 2008, 01:27 AM
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lol..ok...wat i tink is..if u get 2 cards to sli juz to get 20% extra performance, i tink that price u can buy a better performing card and less power consuming...so sli mayb for those who like it, but not for really gamers perhaps? mayb a high end single card will pawn 2 mid end sli cards?
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Nov 24 2008, 01:30 AM
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I want to OC-ed more my E5200....stock cooler prevent it from happening....
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Nov 24 2008, 03:12 AM
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QUOTE(Shah_15 @ Nov 24 2008, 01:30 AM) I want to OC-ed more my E5200....stock cooler prevent it from happening.... what are u waiting for then.if u are on a tight budget hyper 212 is under RM130 now. |
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QUOTE(seanlimys @ Nov 24 2008, 01:27 AM) lol..ok...wat i tink is..if u get 2 cards to sli juz to get 20% extra performance, i tink that price u can buy a better performing card and less power consuming...so sli mayb for those who like it, but not for really gamers perhaps? mayb a high end single card will pawn 2 mid end sli cards? while most of the time this statement is true....there are those RARE occasions where SLi is better. it really depends on the game... sadly, there are very few games that fully utilizes SLi. COD4 is one of themcheck out my own test below...i posted this in the SLi club.. take note of the resolutions and FPS... QUOTE(mADmAN @ Nov 5 2008, 03:49 PM) COD4 really benefits from SLI man.... i tested myself with my home rig and office rig... anyway, at the moment, yes, single higher end card is better compared to SLi of the same combined value.home rig Q6600@3.0 4x1gb DDR2-800 BFG 8800GTS 320mn OC2 SLi 1680x1050 @ stock settings FPS: 90-91 stable with minimum movement Office rig E8400 @3.0 2x2gb DDR2-800 Zotac 9800GT Amp! (Single card.. NO SLI) 1280x1024 @ stock settings FPS: 70-80...lowest went to 50+ n moves around alot even with a lower resolution the "better" single card cant take the SLi for COD4 |
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Nov 24 2008, 08:49 AM
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ya this was indeed a good budget overclocker chip.....OC to 3.2-3.6Ghz should be enuff ATM for your gaming needs...this is a better choice compare to e2 series.....bang for buck.....the only drawback is....after u play with it for awhile, u will start to feel boring and want more out of it.....sadly, i just cannot give u anymore and u'll start to think, why dun i go straight for the OEM e0e8 series....its hard to explain but the word is anticlimax
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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Nov 24 2008, 03:24 AM) while most of the time this statement is true....there are those RARE occasions where SLi is better. it really depends on the game... sadly, there are very few games that fully utilizes SLi. COD4 is one of them well..based on ur rig..8800gts shud be on par or slightly better or lower den 9800gt..is it g80 or g92? mayb 8800gts sli can be compared to 9800gtx+ perhaps? i love sli setup but..i dun find additional juice for the card is a necessity..check out my own test below...i posted this in the SLi club.. take note of the resolutions and FPS... anyway, at the moment, yes, single higher end card is better compared to SLi of the same combined value. QUOTE(Punish @ Nov 24 2008, 08:49 AM) ya this was indeed a good budget overclocker chip.....OC to 3.2-3.6Ghz should be enuff ATM for your gaming needs...this is a better choice compare to e2 series.....bang for buck.....the only drawback is....after u play with it for awhile, u will start to feel boring and want more out of it.....sadly, i just cannot give u anymore and u'll start to think, why dun i go straight for the OEM e0e8 series....its hard to explain but the word is anticlimax wel...e8 is alwiz the best performer for dual core..but keep in mind..wat about budget gamers? shudnt they be considering e5200 over other amd model instead? or oem e6 series which the price is on par wif retail e5200 wif larger cache, and higher fsb, perhaps a more ocable core den e5200? GTG |
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QUOTE(seanlimys @ Nov 24 2008, 10:27 AM) well..based on ur rig..8800gts shud be on par or slightly better or lower den 9800gt..is it g80 or g92? mayb 8800gts sli can be compared to 9800gtx+ perhaps? i love sli setup but..i dun find additional juice for the card is a necessity.. GTS 320 is the older G80 core..... |
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QUOTE(hilmiangah @ Nov 24 2008, 03:12 AM) what are u waiting for then. i'm afraid it won't fit inside my casing..if u are on a tight budget hyper 212 is under RM130 now. refer pic here: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Atta...=post&id=683987 |
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Nov 25 2008, 12:12 AM
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good luck for e5200 ocers..
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Nov 25 2008, 08:27 AM
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1 more good point tat e5200 have is....its only got 2mb cache compare to e8 with 6cache...tats make it run cooler than e8....
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Nov 26 2008, 03:53 PM
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Actually, E5200 OC perform on par with E8400 if we eliminate the cache thingy...
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Nov 26 2008, 10:50 PM
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hey Shah_15, u using e5200 with the gigabyte g31 motherboard, did u need to flash the bios to the latest version???
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Nov 28 2008, 02:46 AM
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QUOTE(kl8610 @ Nov 26 2008, 10:50 PM) hey Shah_15, u using e5200 with the gigabyte g31 motherboard, did u need to flash the bios to the latest version??? no need at all...i just install it and it work like charm...heck, if need to flash latest version, i'll do it since it just easy process. |
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Nov 28 2008, 10:36 PM
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ok, thanks at all
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Nov 28 2008, 10:55 PM
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QUOTE(Shah_15 @ Nov 26 2008, 03:53 PM) Actually, E5200 OC perform on par with E8400 if we eliminate the cache thingy... no matter how u oc..u still cant get the fsb high...it wont be on par..nvr...how can a 4ghz 1280fsb and 4ghz 1777fsb challenge? |
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QUOTE(seanlimys @ Nov 28 2008, 10:55 PM) no matter how u oc..u still cant get the fsb high...it wont be on par..nvr...how can a 4ghz 1280fsb and 4ghz 1777fsb challenge? Can always use the pin mod method for automatic higher FSB. |
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Nov 28 2008, 11:45 PM
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QUOTE(seanlimys @ Nov 28 2008, 10:55 PM) no matter how u oc..u still cant get the fsb high...it wont be on par..nvr...how can a 4ghz 1280fsb and 4ghz 1777fsb challenge? The master has spoken....heck, read my post thoroughly. I mention e5200 oc is on par with e8400 STOCK.....QUOTE(lex @ Nov 28 2008, 11:43 PM) Can always use the pin mod method for automatic higher FSB. |
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Nov 28 2008, 11:48 PM
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QUOTE(Shah_15 @ Nov 28 2008, 11:45 PM) The master has spoken....heck, read my post thoroughly. I mention e5200 oc is on par with e8400 STOCK..... bro..u did not mention the "STOCK" word...so i assume both mentioned are oced.. |
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Nov 28 2008, 11:57 PM
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QUOTE(Shah_15 @ Nov 26 2008, 03:53 PM) Actually, E5200 OC perform on par with E8400 if we eliminate the cache thingy... QUOTE(seanlimys @ Nov 28 2008, 11:48 PM) bro..u did not mention the "STOCK" word...so i assume both mentioned are oced.. haha...read my post above...is there i mention e8400 oc?? no la bro...hehe.. |
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Nov 29 2008, 12:32 AM
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thats the thg i would like to say..u put up the word oc...so its like two model oc...
well..assume...u were saying stock...e8 series would nvr be e8 IF u eliminate the cache...but seriously, i guess it would be unfair for u to leave out the cache... |
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Nov 29 2008, 01:46 AM
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stop this e5200 vs e8400 bashing hehe....hey guys, any of you managed to clock 4.0ghz?
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Nov 29 2008, 07:15 AM
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i tink normal value ram will do the job if 4000 is 320*12.5..but now depending on the chip
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Nov 29 2008, 10:46 AM
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QUOTE(Shah_15 @ Nov 29 2008, 01:46 AM) stop this e5200 vs e8400 bashing hehe....hey guys, any of you managed to clock 4.0ghz? Will the e5200 perform well with no OC? just normal only? or must OC to get max performance? |
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Nov 29 2008, 07:14 PM
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QUOTE(seanlimys @ Nov 29 2008, 07:15 AM) i tink normal value ram will do the job if 4000 is 320*12.5..but now depending on the chip yeah but my mobo only allow 12x multiplier..QUOTE(ericpires @ Nov 29 2008, 10:46 AM) Will the e5200 perform well with no OC? just normal only? or must OC to get max performance? Of course it perform well with no OC...right now i just use stock clock but OC-ed the ram a little.... |
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Dec 1 2008, 12:23 AM
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QUOTE(ericpires @ Nov 29 2008, 10:46 AM) Will the e5200 perform well with no OC? just normal only? or must OC to get max performance? well...2mb cache and 800fsb juz same like like e4XXX series...juz wif 45nm processing...if given a choice for choosing retail or oem proc, i would really go to e6600 oem... |
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hi guy i dunno this is the right thread to ask o not
which 1 is better in gaming P E5200 vs AMD 5600+ x2 |
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Dec 2 2008, 09:52 AM
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go for e5200..larger cache...and its 45nm...
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Dec 2 2008, 04:54 PM
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Go for e5200..use lower voltage and its 45nm mean less heat and better efficiently...
hey guys, what are suitable vcore to run e5200 at 3.6ghz and 4.0ghz? |
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Dec 2 2008, 08:07 PM
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last time I use 1.3vcore to get to 3.6ghz.
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Dec 2 2008, 11:44 PM
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lol..good..
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Dec 3 2008, 02:06 AM
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I'm using 3.0ghz now at stock vcore...failed intel burn test at 3.3ghz with 1.25v.
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OC an E5200 M0 just now,can do 23lopps IBT(Stopped)@3.3ghz,266x12.5 1.25v set,1.2v after droop on Gaygay G31 with IGP
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Dec 3 2008, 09:13 AM
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QUOTE(OC4/3 @ Dec 3 2008, 04:02 AM) OC an E5200 M0 just now,can do 23lopps IBT(Stopped)@3.3ghz,266x12.5 1.25v set,1.2v after droop on Gaygay G31 with IGP yeah...the voltage drop...i'm using g31 chipset mobo also....passed IBT at 10 loops.....at 1.28v 3.3ghz 300x11....ram at 1000mhz... |
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Dec 3 2008, 09:17 AM
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hmmphh..nice vdrop
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Dec 3 2008, 09:26 AM
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QUOTE(seanlimys @ Dec 3 2008, 09:17 AM) hmmphh..nice vdrop vdrop never nice lol...hehe |
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QUOTE(belangkas @ Dec 3 2008, 03:40 PM) |
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lol..one tiny smilley juz to add post count.haha
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Dec 6 2008, 12:06 AM
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Managed to Oc this proc to 4.1ghz...need 1.5v vcore in order to pass 3dmark06. CPU score is 3800....quite good for this budget proc.
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Dec 6 2008, 01:09 AM
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murah pun murah..
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Dec 6 2008, 01:13 AM
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QUOTE(Shah_15 @ Dec 6 2008, 12:06 AM) Managed to Oc this proc to 4.1ghz...need 1.5v vcore in order to pass 3dmark06. CPU score is 3800....quite good for this budget proc. nice...u manage to get it at 4ghz but the vcore will sure kill u processor in no time hope u wont use it for daily use |
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QUOTE(Volt @ Dec 6 2008, 01:13 AM) nice...u manage to get it at 4ghz but the vcore will sure kill u processor in no time I'm just using 3.0ghz for daily use. Just tried it for benchmarking. hope u wont use it for daily use |
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Dec 6 2008, 04:29 AM
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just checking hehe
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18 January will drop price from 84usd to 64usd, but current USD at 3.6, if you using 3.3 rate, then it will be RM210 for 18 January only.
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QUOTE(mitodna @ Dec 8 2008, 06:51 PM) 18 January will drop price from 84usd to 64usd, but current USD at 3.6, if you using 3.3 rate, then it will be RM210 for 18 January only. really? i think gonna grab it..since i just bought GA G31M S2L, i'm going to oc it like bro shah_15 |
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Jan 2 2009, 02:39 AM
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QUOTE(mitodna @ Dec 8 2008, 06:51 PM) 18 January will drop price from 84usd to 64usd, but current USD at 3.6, if you using 3.3 rate, then it will be RM210 for 18 January only. Only this processor, how bout the rest? confirm or not price drop? |
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Wait until end of this month to see the price first. If its really drop to USD64 then i'm gonna grab it. The performance not bad for average user..like me..
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Jan 2 2009, 10:18 PM
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QUOTE(mitodna @ Dec 8 2008, 06:51 PM) 18 January will drop price from 84usd to 64usd, but current USD at 3.6, if you using 3.3 rate, then it will be RM210 for 18 January only. Yeah, I had read that a few Intel models drop price on 18 Jan 09. E 5200 drops from usd84 to usd 76, not usd 74 bro.Stock cooler + stock voltage 1.175V bios gives 3.125 Ghz fsb 250.Stable. Stock cooler + 1.2875 V bios gives 3.475 Ghz at fsb 278.....Idle 42C, Orthos 24 hrs stable max 70C. Multi = 12.5 x Gonna to replace stock cooler and oc to 4Ghz??? Can I make it ?..hehehe... This post has been edited by zeng: Jan 2 2009, 10:20 PM |
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QUOTE(zeng @ Jan 2 2009, 10:18 PM) Yeah, I had read that a few Intel models drop price on 18 Jan 09. E 5200 drops from usd84 to usd 76, not usd 74 bro. wat ram u r using ? kingston value ram ?Stock cooler + stock voltage 1.175V bios gives 3.125 Ghz fsb 250.Stable. Stock cooler + 1.2875 V bios gives 3.475 Ghz at fsb 278.....Idle 42C, Orthos 24 hrs stable max 70C. Multi = 12.5 x Gonna to replace stock cooler and oc to 4Ghz??? Can I make it ?..hehehe... and powersupply pls .... |
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Jan 2 2009, 10:36 PM
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QUOTE(steventan85 @ Jan 2 2009, 10:24 PM) wat ram u r using ? kingston value ram ? Cheapoo Kingston Value ram 667Mhz 1 GB x 2. and powersupply pls .... Fsb/ram ratio at 2:3 -->834Mhz at V dimm on auto. Unstable when exceeds ram 866Mhz with ratio 3:5 fsb/ram. Asus P5QL Pro P43 chipset , and Gigabyte 8600GT gc. Silverstone Strident 56 F at 560W. Psu kind of oversize for this setup. Added on January 2, 2009, 10:38 pm QUOTE(shahzz @ Jan 2 2009, 10:20 PM) You can. But need to play safe with Vcore. What''s the safe V core btw?? Any clue please ? This post has been edited by zeng: Jan 2 2009, 10:38 PM |
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Jan 2 2009, 10:40 PM
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QUOTE(zeng @ Jan 2 2009, 10:36 PM) What''s the safe V core btw?? Any clue please ? cu voltage la..  |
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Jan 2 2009, 10:49 PM
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QUOTE(shahzz @ Jan 2 2009, 10:43 PM) <1.4v can be considered safe. CPU voltage...What do you mean by cu voltage? correct me if wrong |
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Jan 2 2009, 10:50 PM
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QUOTE(shahzz @ Jan 2 2009, 10:43 PM) <1.4v can be considered safe. <1.4 V... that is sweet.What do you mean by cu voltage? Ya lor what our friend meant by cu voltage? I think it means voltage for the 'Copper' thing inside the cpu or the mobo ......hahaha. |
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Jan 2 2009, 10:55 PM
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QUOTE(syafix @ Jan 2 2009, 10:49 PM) CPU voltage... Oh i see.... my V core = your cpu voltage.correct me if wrong The keyword in my question is : SAFE. Thanks for responding anyway. |
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QUOTE(shahzz @ Jan 2 2009, 10:59 PM) This is my current 24/7 settings: On stock cooler? Nice one. All I can say is this E5200 really worth every penny we spent. |
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Jan 2 2009, 11:02 PM
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are u shah_15
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Jan 2 2009, 11:12 PM
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QUOTE(shahzz @ Jan 2 2009, 11:03 PM) Yes. Stock cooler. I can't reboot at Fsb 280 , even tho multi lowers to 10x or 8x.Play around with NB, sb and termination voltage by going to max, doesn't help either. Any idea where I go wrong?? Now stuck at fsb 278 x 12.5. I t is not temperature issue I suppose. |
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Jan 2 2009, 11:14 PM
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shahzz, what is ur full spec?
mine like this can oc like u? btw, i got OC basic e5200 g31m s2l kvr 2x2gb 9600gt vantec ion2+ seagate 250GB |
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Jan 2 2009, 11:16 PM
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QUOTE(zeng @ Jan 2 2009, 11:12 PM) I can't reboot at Fsb 280 , even tho multi lowers to 10x or 8x. try to adjust the divider to 1:1 ,i guess ur ram make u cant reboot Play around with NB, sb and termination voltage by going to max, doesn't help either. Any idea where I go wrong?? Now stuck at fsb 278 x 12.5. I t is not temperature issue I suppose. |
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Jan 2 2009, 11:38 PM
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QUOTE(shahzz @ Jan 2 2009, 11:14 PM) Try lower down your motherboard's chipset multiplier. I did that with 10x; 8x; 11x etc.NB voltage max to 1.4V Sb max to 1.7V; Termination voltage something max to 1.4V, fsb/ram ratio adjusted to 1:1 Ram timings 6;6 :6: 18 etc All no go , don't know why? Anyway newbie 1st oc here. Added on January 2, 2009, 11:40 pm QUOTE(xk2 @ Jan 2 2009, 11:16 PM) try to adjust the divider to 1:1 ,i guess ur ram make u cant reboot I went down 1:1 to get ram speed 560Mhz....also same no reboot.This post has been edited by zeng: Jan 2 2009, 11:40 PM |
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my ram is kingston value ram 800MHz 2gb x2
ur spec same like shah_15... play gta 4 in what setting? |
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gta 4 with 9600GT and reso 1280x1024 ok?
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Jan 3 2009, 12:14 AM
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no wonder both of u were posting like u've been here for quite some times
btw anyone got stable 4Gz? mine only 3.6GHz due to multiplier limitation by my mobo |
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Jan 3 2009, 12:33 AM
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QUOTE(shahzz @ Jan 2 2009, 11:53 PM) Can you give me your motherboard model please? I googled this mobo/P43 chipset can touch fsb 400. Whereas E 5200 can go for 330 to 350 Mhz agak agak, of course with lower multi. |
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QUOTE(shahzz @ Jan 3 2009, 12:32 AM) Oc-ed it to 3.3ghz and I believe you can have playable FPS. mmg decide want to OC it like urs more than 3.3GHz daily usage pernah try? |
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QUOTE(heizad @ Jan 3 2009, 12:14 AM) no wonder both of u were posting like u've been here for quite some times Mind telling us your mobo model pl? btw anyone got stable 4Gz? mine only 3.6GHz due to multiplier limitation by my mobo |
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Jan 3 2009, 12:48 AM
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only use dfi blood iron p35-t2RL
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Jan 3 2009, 12:57 AM
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QUOTE(heizad @ Jan 3 2009, 12:48 AM) only use dfi blood iron p35-t2RL Care to enlighten us further on 'Multipllier limitations' in this mobo??Newbie here. |
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QUOTE(zeng @ Jan 3 2009, 12:57 AM) Care to enlighten us further on 'Multipllier limitations' in this mobo??Newbie here. i'm not sure whether i'm correct or not..but default multiplier for this proc is 12.5 rite..but my mobo support up to 12 only... |
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QUOTE(heizad @ Jan 3 2009, 01:03 AM) i'm not sure whether i'm correct or not..but default multiplier for this proc is 12.5 rite..but my mobo support up to 12 only... Yeah E 5200 default multi is 12.5xI read that, on some mobo, one must activate something in Bios to make use of '.5x' May be this is what happens to you now. My Asus P5QL Pro dun have this problem. Maybe sifus out there can provide guidance?? Any one?? |
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Jan 3 2009, 03:18 AM
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fsb/ram ratio adjusted to 1:1
how to adjust that ? anyone can guide me on that ? |
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Check the System Memory Multiplier (SPD), usually on "AUTO"... Otherwise set Memory Frequency to a fixed frequency of your RAM...
Here is a short guide on each settings..  Added on January 3, 2009, 3:47 amIf there is DES settings, the turn it off... it might interfere with overclocking. This post has been edited by lex: Jan 3 2009, 03:47 AM |
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my ram is 800mhz ... so i need to set my fsb to 400fsb so that can run at 800mhz for ram ?
320 x 12.5 400 x 10.0 is it correct ? |
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QUOTE(steventan85 @ Jan 3 2009, 04:15 AM) my ram is 800mhz ... so i need to set my fsb to 400fsb so that can run at 800mhz for ram ? Here's a simple explanation...320 x 12.5 400 x 10.0 is it correct ? If you want to run at 320MHz system bus (1280MHz FSB) with the RAM at 800MHz... then set the memory multiplier to 2.50 which gives you... 2.50 x 320MHz = 800MHz If you want to run at 400MHz system bus (1600MHz FSB) with the RAM at 800MHz... then set the memory multiplier to 2.00 which gives you... 2.00 x 400MHz = 800MHz If you are going for 4GHz, then I would suggest you have to pump up the CPU voltage a bit.. plus a good 3rd party HSF for long running....  For your information (in case other forummers mentioned about "dividers / ratio")... Memory multiplier (SPD) = Divider 2.50 = 4/5 3.00 = 2/3 2.00 = 1/1 2.40 = 5/6 3.20 = 5/8 3.33 = 3/5 4+ = 1/2 This post has been edited by lex: Jan 3 2009, 09:55 AM |
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for SPD , i can only choose 2.66 , 3.33 and 4+ .... i cant get 2.0 for me to choose ....
so now my FSB : DRAM is 3:5 ...kind of weird This post has been edited by steventan85: Jan 3 2009, 12:43 PM |
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I suggest OC CPU and Ram individually, no need ratio..
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QUOTE(shaun3230 @ Jan 3 2009, 12:36 PM) I suggest OC CPU and Ram individually, no need ratio.. yeah...just change multiplier will do. |
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QUOTE(steventan85 @ Jan 3 2009, 12:20 PM) for SPD , i can only choose 2.66 , 3.66 and 4+ .... i cant get 2.0 for me to choose .... Are you using DDR2-667 RAM? That ratio is usually for DDR2-667 RAM... so now my FSB : DRAM is 3:5 ...kind of weird |
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Jan 3 2009, 12:41 PM
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More like frequency. Not all CPUs got unlocked multiplier...
Only C2Es and AMD BEs frm what I understand |
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Jan 3 2009, 12:43 PM
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QUOTE(lex @ Jan 3 2009, 12:40 PM) Are you using DDR2-667 RAM? That ratio is usually for DDR2-667 RAM... i think so. since mine is 800mhz, at 2.66 already 800. at 3.66 is 1000mhz.QUOTE(shaun3230 @ Jan 3 2009, 12:41 PM) More like frequency. Not all CPUs got unlocked multiplier... If increase fsb, it will increase ram speed oso.Only C2Es and AMD BEs frm what I understand |
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If u set oc with a specific ratio.. But normally CPU can oc better, so I disable it
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Jan 3 2009, 12:46 PM
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QUOTE(shaun3230 @ Jan 3 2009, 12:45 PM) If u set oc with a specific ratio.. But normally CPU can oc better, so I disable it yeah...set the ram divider is what you mean right.... |
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Jan 3 2009, 12:47 PM
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QUOTE(lex @ Jan 3 2009, 12:40 PM) Are you using DDR2-667 RAM? That ratio is usually for DDR2-667 RAM... uisng kingston 800mhz ram ...cpu-z showing the samething also .... |
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Jan 3 2009, 12:54 PM
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QUOTE(steventan85 @ Jan 3 2009, 12:47 PM) uisng kingston 800mhz ram ...cpu-z showing the samething also .... In the BIOS what is the memory frequency shown at default? |
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Jan 3 2009, 12:59 PM
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QUOTE(alex_mahone @ Jan 3 2009, 12:43 PM) i think so. since mine is 800mhz, at 2.66 already 800. at 3.66 is 1000mhz. i juz set auto for SPD so that it will run at 800mhz for ramIf increase fsb, it will increase ram speed oso. |
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Jan 3 2009, 01:00 PM
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QUOTE(steventan85 @ Jan 3 2009, 12:59 PM) i juz set auto for SPD so that it will run at 800mhz for ram for my mobo, if set auto, it go to 4+. make the ram speed is 1200mhz...try switch to 2.66. |
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Jan 3 2009, 01:02 PM
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QUOTE(lex @ Jan 3 2009, 12:54 PM) In the BIOS what is the memory frequency shown at default? ya....default showing 800mhz....even the ram chip is written 800mhz .... Added on January 3, 2009, 1:03 pm QUOTE(alex_mahone @ Jan 3 2009, 01:00 PM) for my mobo, if set auto, it go to 4+. make the ram speed is 1200mhz...try switch to 2.66. i not sure if it run at 1200mhz when set auto , but wat i can tell u is , when i set auto , it run at 800mhz ... This post has been edited by steventan85: Jan 3 2009, 01:03 PM |
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QUOTE(steventan85 @ Jan 3 2009, 01:02 PM) ya....default showing 800mhz....even the ram chip is written 800mhz .... no harm try to set at 2.66 right? why dont you give it a try. Added on January 3, 2009, 1:03 pm i not sure if it run at 1200mhz when set auto , but wat i can tell u is , when i set auto , it run at 800mhz ... |
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Jan 3 2009, 01:12 PM
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QUOTE(alex_mahone @ Jan 3 2009, 01:04 PM) no harm try to set at 2.66 right? why dont you give it a try. set it at bios d and it show 533mhz .... so i need to set either 4+ or auto to get 800mhz |
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QUOTE(steventan85 @ Jan 3 2009, 12:20 PM) for SPD , i can only choose 2.66 , 3.33 and 4+ .... i cant get 2.0 for me to choose .... Indeed, your bios is set at spd 3.33, or if you are on auto, your auto has selected spd 3.33 --> giving you fsb/ram ratio 3:5 .What is your ram operating speed?? Well it depends on what is your fsb now in bios or cpuz. so now my FSB : DRAM is 3:5 ...kind of weird May I know what is your mobo model ? and in Bios, what is your fsb now? In your sig, your fsb is 225Mhz and you are running at a fsb/ram ratio of 1:2 (equivalent to spd thing 4+ ??) --- > giving you 450 Mhz ram speed. Now with a DDR 2, your so called 800 Mhz ram(ii.e rated speed) is now operating at 900Mhz i.e being overclocked. fsb:ram ratio you mentioned above as 3:5. It is not in tandem with your sig........ Are you talking about another setup or just a hypothetical case???????? Rather confusing leh....... This post has been edited by zeng: Jan 3 2009, 11:51 PM |
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QUOTE(steventan85 @ Jan 3 2009, 01:12 PM) set it at bios d and it show 533mhz .... so i need to set either 4+ or auto to get 800mhz That's because your default bus speed is 200MHz, thus 4.0 x 200MHz = 800MHz... Since you have 2.66 and 3.66, then you might try 300MHz system bus speed (1200MHz FSB) with memory multiplier at 2.66 (for 800MHz RAM).. and set CPU multiplier to either 11.0 or 12.5 and see. Should get you around 3.3GHz to 3.75GHz overclock.. Any higher than this, let's say 400MHz system bus, you'll need DDR2-1066 RAM (using 2.66 x 400MHz).. Note: The GA-G31M-S2L and GA-G31M-ES2L have 3 memory multipliers (FSB to RAM) but the ratios available depend on processor FSB strap... with a 266MHz system gives 2.0x , a 2.5x and a 3.0x... With 333MHz system bus gives 1.6x, 2.0x and 2.4x... With 200MHz system bus gives 2.66x, 3.66x, 4x... This post has been edited by lex: Jan 3 2009, 11:44 PM |
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Jan 3 2009, 11:25 PM
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QUOTE(steventan85 @ Jan 3 2009, 01:12 PM) set it at bios d and it show 533mhz .... so i need to set either 4+ or auto to get 800mhz Your physical ram of 800Mhz rated speed is now operating at 533Mhz.Now what is the fsb/ram ratio now??? That depends on what is your fsb as indicated in your bios/cpuz/occt etc now! Scenario 1: cpuz/bios fsb is 266Mhz Then your fsb/ram ratio is 1:1 (equivalent to spd thing 2.0) , because your DDR 2 ram speed is 2 x fsb giving you 533 Mhz. Scenario 2: cpuz/bios fsb is showing 222Mhz Then your fsb/ram ratio now is 5:6( equinalent to spd thing 2.4).......... giving you ram speed of 533Mhz also . Scenario 3 : cpuz/bios fsb is showing 213Mhz Then your fsb/ram rato is now 4:5(equivalent to spd thing 2.50), giving you DDR 2 ram speed of 533Mhz. In all the above scenarios, your physical rams of rated speed s of 667Mhz or 800Mhz or xxxMhz are NOT operating at their respective speeds of 667/800/xxxMhz.They all operate at 533Mhz!! The question now is what is your cpuz/bios fsb??? Having identified your actual fsb now,and select the available fsb/ram ratio in your bios, then only we can talk about what is the operating speed in Mhz of your 800Mhz ram (rated speed) In scenarios 2 and 3 above, your 800Mhz rated speed ram can NEVER operate at a DDR2 frequency of 800Mhz simply because the 'suitable ratio of say 5:9 fsb/ram ratio is NOT available in typical Motherboards. Hope it helps. This post has been edited by zeng: Jan 3 2009, 11:54 PM |
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Jan 4 2009, 12:30 AM
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QUOTE(lex @ Jan 3 2009, 10:32 PM) That's because your default bus speed is 200MHz, thus 4.0 x 200MHz = 800MHz... i hav set 10.5 x 300mhz Since you have 2.66 and 3.66, then you might try 300MHz system bus speed (1200MHz FSB) with memory multiplier at 2.66 (for 800MHz RAM).. and set CPU multiplier to either 11.0 or 12.5 and see. Should get you around 3.3GHz to 3.75GHz overclock.. Any higher than this, let's say 400MHz system bus, you'll need DDR2-1066 RAM (using 2.66 x 400MHz).. Note: The GA-G31M-S2L and GA-G31M-ES2L have 3 memory multipliers (FSB to RAM) but the ratios available depend on processor FSB strap... with a 266MHz system gives 2.0x , a 2.5x and a 3.0x... With 333MHz system bus gives 1.6x, 2.0x and 2.4x... With 200MHz system bus gives 2.66x, 3.66x, 4x... Using GA-G31M-ES2L and now my CPU-Z dint show my DRAM frequency and FSB:DRAM ...its blank .... why ? This post has been edited by steventan85: Jan 4 2009, 12:31 AM |
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Jan 4 2009, 12:33 AM
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QUOTE(steventan85 @ Jan 4 2009, 12:30 AM) i hav set 10.5 x 300mhz Same happen to me if I set the ram at 2.66.Using GA-G31M-ES2L and now my CPU-Z dint show my DRAM frequency and FSB:DRAM ...its blank .... why ? |
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Jan 4 2009, 12:36 AM
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QUOTE(alex_mahone @ Jan 4 2009, 12:33 AM) Same happen to me if I set the ram at 2.66. SPD : 2.6610.5 x 300mhz 3.15ghz but my ram speed in my CPU-Z is blank .... system is stable so far... will try GTA IV and see ... if it is not stable , the game will hang and restart |
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Jan 4 2009, 12:38 AM
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QUOTE(steventan85 @ Jan 4 2009, 12:36 AM) SPD : 2.66 the cpu-z show blank too if i set ram at 2.66. now i set at 3.xx. ram running at 1000mhz. cpu-z does show it.10.5 x 300mhz 3.15ghz but my ram speed in my CPU-Z is blank .... system is stable so far... will try GTA IV and see ... if it is not stable , the game will hang and restart |
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Jan 4 2009, 12:45 AM
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QUOTE(alex_mahone @ Jan 4 2009, 12:38 AM) the cpu-z show blank too if i set ram at 2.66. now i set at 3.xx. ram running at 1000mhz. cpu-z does show it. if i set it at 3.33 , i hav overclock my ram to 1000mhz and i afraid it will burn and my processor will be 3.5++ghz if not mistaken~easy tune5 showing my processor is running at 3.749ghz when the FSB=300 and 10.5 .... weird ... it should be 3.15ghz instead This post has been edited by steventan85: Jan 4 2009, 12:46 AM |
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QUOTE(steventan85 @ Jan 4 2009, 12:45 AM) if i set it at 3.33 , i hav overclock my ram to 1000mhz and i afraid it will burn well, i don't know cause my ram can run 1000mhz perfectly... and my processor will be 3.5++ghz if not mistaken |
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Jan 4 2009, 12:47 AM
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QUOTE(alex_mahone @ Jan 4 2009, 12:46 AM) well, i don't know cause my ram can run 1000mhz perfectly... value ram or performance ram ?i think got bug for easytune5...when i manually reduce FSB to 299 , it showing 3.15ghz ... when increase to 300 , bcome 3.8ghz alredi so i assume CPU-Z also got the same problems ...my BIOS is showing 800mhz for ram and 3.15ghz for E5200 ...normal This post has been edited by steventan85: Jan 4 2009, 12:50 AM |
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Jan 4 2009, 12:49 AM
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QUOTE(steventan85 @ Jan 4 2009, 12:47 AM) value ram or performance ram ? performance ram of course. |
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Jan 4 2009, 01:20 AM
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alex, what is ur full spec?
can u run gta 4 on it? |
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Jan 4 2009, 01:21 AM
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QUOTE(syafix @ Jan 4 2009, 01:20 AM) alex, what is ur full spec? E5200can u run gta 4 on it? 2GB Crucial Ballistix Tracer LED HIS ICEQ 4850 No problem so far running GTA4.. |
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Jan 4 2009, 01:22 AM
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QUOTE(alex_mahone @ Jan 4 2009, 01:21 AM) E5200 what reso?2GB Crucial Ballistix Tracer LED HIS ICEQ 4850 No problem so far running GTA4.. |
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Jan 4 2009, 01:22 AM
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QUOTE(syafix @ Jan 4 2009, 01:22 AM) what reso? 1280x1024. |
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Jan 4 2009, 01:25 AM
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same as me... but i need more powerful GC.. |
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Jan 4 2009, 01:26 AM
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QUOTE(syafix @ Jan 4 2009, 01:25 AM) same as me...but i need more powerful GC.. |
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Jan 4 2009, 01:28 AM
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u build the pc my self, and i think gonna get 9600GT
but many negative comment about GTA4 with that card |
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Jan 4 2009, 01:30 AM
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QUOTE(syafix @ Jan 4 2009, 01:28 AM) u build the pc my self, and i think gonna get 9600GT don't worry. it still playable with 9600GT.but many negative comment about GTA4 with that card |
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Jan 4 2009, 01:32 AM
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but i scared niko run also like slow motion
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Jan 4 2009, 01:32 AM
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QUOTE(syafix @ Jan 4 2009, 01:32 AM) but i scared niko run also like slow motion Try first..i've seen some people running gta 4 with 9600gt no problem. |
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Jan 4 2009, 01:36 AM
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thanks for the comments alex
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Jan 4 2009, 02:18 AM
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GTA IV need a quadcore for it to run smoothly and not even a 4ghz E8400 will help it run smoothly.
p/s:i can get it running at 35fps average on a 3.6ghz E8400,4gb of ram,a 9800gt on 1680x1050 and all other setting on the max but only after the patch and the 180.80 beta driver. |
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QUOTE(alex_mahone @ Jan 4 2009, 01:32 AM) Try first..i've seen some people running gta 4 with 9600gt no problem. wont be slow motion .... 4670 is also capable to handle the game....low setting at 1280x1024... juz the texture quality a bit low only ...other ok |
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bought new 2009 rig yesterday. using this e5200 proc, i oc it to 3.3ghz at 1.2v.. using gigabyte mobo p31.. can i oc the proc speed higher than 3.3g using just 1.2vcore? btw im using stock cooler. max temp at 55'c.
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Jan 5 2009, 10:29 AM
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QUOTE(steventan85 @ Jan 4 2009, 12:45 AM) if i set it at 3.33 , i hav overclock my ram to 1000mhz and i afraid it will burn Change the CPU multiplier to get to 3.33GHz while trying to maintain the RAM frequency as close as possible to its rated operational frequency. Check my previous quote... and my processor will be 3.5++ghz if not mistaken QUOTE(lex @ Jan 3 2009, 10:32 PM) Since you have 2.66 and 3.66, then you might try 300MHz system bus speed (1200MHz FSB) with memory multiplier at 2.66 (for 800MHz RAM).. and set CPU multiplier to either 11.0 or 12.5 and see. Should get you around 3.3GHz to 3.75GHz overclock.. QUOTE(steventan85 @ Jan 4 2009, 12:45 AM) ~easy tune5 showing my processor is running at 3.749ghz when the FSB=300 and 10.5 .... weird ... it should be 3.15ghz instead Use CPU-Z to read the actual CPU frequency. QUOTE(steventan85 @ Jan 4 2009, 12:47 AM) value ram or performance ram ? If you are using value RAM, try to maintain the RAM frequency as close as possible to its rated operational frequency. Slight overclock doesn't matter, just not too much.. otherwise you will have to play with RAM timings.  QUOTE(steventan85 @ Jan 4 2009, 12:47 AM) so i assume CPU-Z also got the same problems ...my BIOS is showing 800mhz for ram and 3.15ghz for E5200 ...normal CPU-Z may have a bug for detecting 2.66 memory multipliers. Added on January 5, 2009, 10:32 am QUOTE(uzary @ Jan 5 2009, 04:24 AM) bought new 2009 rig yesterday. using this e5200 proc, i oc it to 3.3ghz at 1.2v.. using gigabyte mobo p31.. can i oc the proc speed higher than 3.3g using just 1.2vcore? btw im using stock cooler. max temp at 55'c. Yes, you can.. how far it goes depends on your chip. Test for stability for every step increase in frequency, and also monitor your temperatures. If you want to go much higher, then a 3rd party HSF is recommended. This post has been edited by lex: Jan 5 2009, 10:32 AM |
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Jan 11 2009, 12:45 PM
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e5200 or 7750 be better?
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Jan 11 2009, 01:42 PM
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hmm, i wonder how much of performance difference between my OCed E2160@3.3 against E5200@3.3...
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Jan 11 2009, 01:50 PM
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i7 playing GTA4 or PS3 playing GTA4 more smoother ?
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Jan 12 2009, 12:40 PM
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 hye,has anyone try this ccf cooler on this chipset? how muc can oc with this cooler?and wats the temperature at load? im oc this chip to 3.3ghz wt stock cooler, with a max temp of 57'c |
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Jan 16 2009, 06:11 PM
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just pusing2 in youtube and found this..
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « credit for GreenBushman@Youtube |
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Jan 16 2009, 06:13 PM
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QUOTE(uzary @ Jan 12 2009, 01:40 PM) hye,has anyone try this ccf cooler on this chipset? how muc can oc with this cooler?and wats the temperature at load? refer to this link .. http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=775870im oc this chip to 3.3ghz wt stock cooler, with a max temp of 57'c as for the temperature .. you can refer to this link .. http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f=130&t=780286 |
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QUOTE(heizad @ Jan 3 2009, 01:03 AM) i'm not sure whether i'm correct or not..but default multiplier for this proc is 12.5 rite..but my mobo support up to 12 only... have you fix the problem? I using E5200 + DFI BI as well. |
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Jan 16 2009, 10:52 PM
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will grab this baby after the price cut down..
and join OC like u all |
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Jan 18 2009, 07:09 PM
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QUOTE(syafix @ Jan 16 2009, 10:52 PM) will grab this baby after the price cut down.. bro...what is ur mobo's rev?u're using giga g31 rite?and join OC like u all |
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Jan 22 2009, 08:12 AM
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is tis E5200 good for OC??
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Jan 22 2009, 08:56 PM
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QUOTE(heizad @ Jan 18 2009, 07:09 PM) bro...what is ur mobo's rev?u're using giga g31 rite? yeah G31..same like shah's..rev 1.1 why? |
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Jan 23 2009, 06:23 PM
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This is one of my clients PC I've build... Short run overclocked to 3.6GHz stable could have gone further but not enough time to test everything out... Using Hyper TX2 cooler for testing..
SuperPi.... 
Orthos for over an hour... 
EIST is active... 
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count me in...
i'm using this proc oso... OC it to 3.15 onli with stock cooler, hehe... 252 x 12.5 @ 1.200v mem divider 3.33 @ 840mhz @ 4-4-4-12 Idle temp about 40c & load nearly 60c but i noticed that core 1 & core 2 temp isn't the same? Normal meh? |
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Jan 23 2009, 10:01 PM
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I can get up to 3.2GHz on the stock HSF... Anyway, its was fully stable up to 3.75GHz (only the IGP held it back, a discrete GPU required) and I did managed to touch almost 4GHz unfortunately the DDR2-800 value RAM held me back from reaching that goal.... Going to send this PC to client soon...
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Jan 24 2009, 12:45 AM
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QUOTE(syafix @ Jan 22 2009, 08:56 PM) yeah G31..same like shah's.. i just bought the same mobo too coz my pc suddenly no post eventhough there's power running through..so i tried to pair my e5200 wit the giga g31 rev 1.1 but same prob occur rev 1.1 why? tried wit one stick ram oso still the same..tried other gc oso same issue occur...the only things left are psu and proc...is there any possibility that my proc dead? |
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Jan 24 2009, 01:57 AM
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QUOTE(lex @ Jan 23 2009, 10:01 PM) I can get up to 3.2GHz on the stock HSF... Ya, i managed to reach that level too, but sumting weirdo will happen if i set above 3.15GhzMy P35 DS3 rev1.0 would power on for a 1-2sec than immediately self power off, than back on after 1-2sec later with all overclock setting remain & happily continue loading as normal It happen every time during cold boot... I tried tweakin it to many different settings but it still happen What's wrong eh? Anyone facing this issue b4? |
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QUOTE(vamfire @ Jan 24 2009, 01:57 AM) Ya, i managed to reach that level too, but sumting weirdo will happen if i set above 3.15Ghz I'm on 3.3ghz on Stock Cooler. Temp is okay but you need to play with vcore slowly. If increase too much, its won't pass 3dmark06...just "sedang-sedang".... My P35 DS3 rev1.0 would power on for a 1-2sec than immediately self power off, than back on after 1-2sec later with all overclock setting remain & happily continue loading as normal It happen every time during cold boot... I tried tweakin it to many different settings but it still happen What's wrong eh? Anyone facing this issue b4? |
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Jan 25 2009, 08:30 AM
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QUOTE(heizad @ Jan 24 2009, 12:45 AM) i just bought the same mobo too coz my pc suddenly no post eventhough there's power running through..so i tried to pair my e5200 wit the giga g31 rev 1.1 but same prob occur Have you tried resetting or clearing the CMOS settings? tried wit one stick ram oso still the same..tried other gc oso same issue occur...the only things left are psu and proc...is there any possibility that my proc dead? Anyway, the PC already sent to client.. Here are some pictures with my cooler, was replaced with the original cooler before send off.. 
Overclocked at 3.75GHz stable with reduced voltage testing, passed Memtest easily.. 
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Feb 2 2009, 12:22 AM
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Now doing this settings...
CPU---> 3.3Ghz @ 264 x 12.5 @ 1.225v MEM---> 880Mhz @ 264 x 3.33 @ 5-5-5-15 @ 1.9v TEMP--> 42c Idle & 62 Load w Stock Cooled Hehe, not bad eh for a newbie like me Gonna push this baby summore & see how far it can go TORTURING TIME! p/s - any sifus pls enlightened me wif ur OC skills, make me ur padawan... |
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Feb 2 2009, 10:51 AM
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E5200 user reporting in
I managed to clock @ 3.9GHz on 1.65V, vdroop 1.55V E5200 (312x12.5) Asus P5B-E Plus XMS2 2x1GB 800MHz @ 936MHz Fail orthos on 34mins 7 secs. Will try higher vcore later 
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Feb 2 2009, 10:52 PM
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QUOTE(syafix @ Feb 2 2009, 09:55 PM) higher vcore? Haha.. Wanna try what voltage enough to stable it.Btw, safe vcore is? I no idea about this. This post has been edited by Liuteva: Feb 2 2009, 10:53 PM |
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Feb 2 2009, 11:28 PM
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QUOTE(Liuteva @ Feb 2 2009, 10:52 PM) Haha.. Wanna try what voltage enough to stable it. Wah! 1.6v! & u still wanna push higher? Btw, safe vcore is? I no idea about this.  I bet u use a decent cooler which made u dare to do that eh? Watercooled maybe? Me no chance ler to do near 4Ghz with stock cooler this baby really need quite a voltage bump in order to bump For now, i guess i shud stick wif 3.3GHz until i get a decent cooler... |
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Feb 3 2009, 08:32 AM
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Was using Deepcool KillerWHALE
E5200 @ 3.6GHz (288x12.5) vcore 1.45v, vdroop 1.384v Mobo: P5B-E Plus RAM: XMS2 2x1GB 800Mhz @ 960MHz (5-5-5-15) 2.25v idle: 37c, load 67c 
WTH, my mobo vdroop so high |
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Feb 4 2009, 10:51 PM
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QUOTE(Liuteva @ Feb 3 2009, 08:32 AM) Was using Deepcool KillerWHALE Oh, no wonder la, kudos for that great cooler... I was planning to buy it as well but unable to make decision coz stuck in between Deepcool or Thermalright or Not-Yet-Released cooler from other brand that can support socket 1366... Want it to be future proof maa coz planning to upgrade to Core i7 in near future |
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Feb 5 2009, 07:55 AM
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QUOTE(vamfire @ Feb 4 2009, 10:51 PM) Oh, no wonder la, kudos for that great cooler... Haha i see, now grab and enjoy first ma, future buy again I was planning to buy it as well but unable to make decision coz stuck in between Deepcool or Thermalright or Not-Yet-Released cooler from other brand that can support socket 1366... Want it to be future proof maa coz planning to upgrade to Core i7 in near future This post has been edited by Liuteva: Feb 5 2009, 02:42 PM |
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Feb 8 2009, 07:15 AM
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QUOTE(Liuteva @ Feb 3 2009, 08:32 AM) E5200 @ 3.6GHz (288x12.5) I also have the same Vdroop (down to 1.36V to 1.38V).. vcore 1.45v, vdroop 1.384v Mobo: P5B-E Plus RAM: XMS2 2x1GB 800Mhz @ 960MHz (5-5-5-15) 2.25v idle: 37c, load 67c
WTH, my mobo vdroop so high However I didn't need to pump that high Vcore to reach 3.6GHz full stability. Even with a crappy Hyper TX2 cooler the idle temperatures were below 30c and on load (using Prime) never even touched 60c. |
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Feb 8 2009, 09:34 AM
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QUOTE(lex @ Feb 8 2009, 07:15 AM) I also have the same Vdroop (down to 1.36V to 1.38V).. Nice temp you got. Using what thermal grease? However I didn't need to pump that high Vcore to reach 3.6GHz full stability. Even with a crappy Hyper TX2 cooler the idle temperatures were below 30c and on load (using Prime) never even touched 60c. I using the whale stock thermal grease, the performance didnt do well Idle 34-35c, Load 67c |
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Feb 9 2009, 12:26 PM
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anyone using this proc with asus p5kpl-am ? wonder how far can it go
gonna make a setup with this mobo soon |
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Feb 9 2009, 07:13 PM
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Just got this processor yesterday.
Pairing it with ASUS P5QL PRO. Anyone else has tried pairing it with P5QL PRO ? |
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Feb 9 2009, 10:11 PM
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Ahha! Oledi got myself a 2nd hand TRUE cooler from a fellow forumer
This time gonna torture my E5200 kaw kaw... & let the FUN begins!  Added on February 10, 2009, 10:49 amAiyaa... Even with TRUE cooler my idle temp is quite high at 44c, about the same wif my stock cooler... I was expecting it to be around 35~40c onli Load temp imho is low however around 56c My settings > 3.3GHz @ 264x12.5 @ 1.200v onli... Reseated it thrice already & the third time with EXTRA careful using AS5 thermal paste... WHY? WHY? WHYYYY!!!! HELPPPP!!!  This post has been edited by vamfire: Feb 10 2009, 10:49 AM |
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Feb 10 2009, 12:44 PM
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idle reading is not important.....stress it up and ull see the different..
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Feb 10 2009, 08:44 PM
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Hoho, been googling around & found an interesting forum in extremesys if not mistaken
Many 45nm CPU users also experiencing this odd temperature = some high & some low It is because of the sensor diode screwed-up somehow, not damaged but it doesn't show accurate figures coz it's not specifically designed for monitoring but for throttling (EIST) PHEW! I tot my hardware that screwed, heheAccording to the forumer, better do a calibration for Real Temp to get closest accurate temp which i trying to do rite now |
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Feb 10 2009, 09:01 PM
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My core0 idle 53c, core1 idle 34 - 36c
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Feb 10 2009, 11:35 PM
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Actually i questioned up some question long ago.What it is the T-Junction temp for this core.But google doesnt answer me.I think the t-jun is different for this core since i can feel it with my bare hand.I touched 50C 40C 30C i know the different..
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Feb 10 2009, 11:36 PM
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QUOTE(Liuteva @ Feb 8 2009, 09:34 AM) Nice temp you got. Using what thermal grease? Believe it or not, good old AS3.. still got some left in the tube, so what the heck (finish it anyway). My other one, AS5 hardly used, for most of my overclocking. QUOTE(vamfire @ Feb 9 2009, 10:11 PM) Even with TRUE cooler my idle temp is quite high at 44c, about the same wif my stock cooler... You load temps are fine, but the idle temps are not... usually around 26C or higher (in my case). Anyway, I had EIST enabled during that time... I was expecting it to be around 35~40c onli Load temp imho is low however around 56c |
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Feb 11 2009, 02:23 PM
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QUOTE(vamfire @ Feb 10 2009, 08:44 PM) Hoho, been googling around & found an interesting forum in extremesys if not mistaken Wolfdale is known to have stuck sensor,that why give mess up reading Many 45nm CPU users also experiencing this odd temperature = some high & some low It is because of the sensor diode screwed-up somehow, not damaged but it doesn't show accurate figures coz it's not specifically designed for monitoring but for throttling (EIST) PHEW! I tot my hardware that screwed, heheAccording to the forumer, better do a calibration for Real Temp to get closest accurate temp which i trying to do rite now |
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Feb 11 2009, 06:47 PM
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Anyone here paired e5200 with p5ql pro and 1066 mhz ddr 2 ram?
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Feb 12 2009, 12:28 AM
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QUOTE(Cloud9Nos3 @ Feb 11 2009, 06:47 PM) Anyone here paired e5200 with p5ql pro and 1066 mhz ddr 2 ram? Anyone wanna donate those hardware for testing? Anyway, should be no problem.. The P5QL Pro is a better motherboard than the one I've used.. |
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Feb 12 2009, 12:31 AM
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i planned to build my rig as follow, help me see whether there is any problem ^^
Intel Rig E5200 2.5ghz – rm 250 Asus p5ql pro – rm 315 Kingston DDR2 KVR800 2gb RAM x 2 – rm 176 Seagate Barracuda (16M) SATA - 500GB - rm 199.00 Samsung 22x SH-S223F DVD Writer – SATA – rm 76.00 Chasis – rm 125 Samsung 22†inch monitor – rm 610 Palit 4850 – rm 560 |
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Feb 12 2009, 04:22 AM
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QUOTE(Cloud9Nos3 @ Feb 12 2009, 12:31 AM) Seagate Barracuda (16M) SATA - 500GB - rm 199.00 This is kinda expensive, for that price can get Western Digital 640GB HDD already.. Normally for Seagate 500GB HDD its around RM190 only... QUOTE(Cloud9Nos3 @ Feb 12 2009, 12:31 AM) Samsung 22x SH-S223F DVD Writer – SATA – rm 76.00 I would suggest getting Lite-On, ASUS or Pioneer instead.. QUOTE(Cloud9Nos3 @ Feb 12 2009, 12:31 AM) Chasis – rm 125 What brand and model is that casing?  QUOTE(Cloud9Nos3 @ Feb 12 2009, 12:31 AM) Samsung 22†inch monitor – rm 610 Which model is this one? QUOTE(Cloud9Nos3 @ Feb 12 2009, 12:31 AM) Palit 4850 – rm 560 Is this the (pre-factory overclocked) SONIC version? Not sure where you got your prices from... |
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Feb 12 2009, 01:06 PM
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QUOTE(lex @ Feb 12 2009, 04:22 AM) This is kinda expensive, for that price can get Western Digital 640GB HDD already.. Normally for Seagate 500GB HDD its around RM190 only... All the price was taken from pc depot as i can only buy it at Ipoh I would suggest getting Lite-On, ASUS or Pioneer instead.. What brand and model is that casing? Which model is this one? Is this the (pre-factory overclocked) SONIC version? Not sure where you got your prices from... Chasis? It is JNC HJA-707 (22cm Side Fan) Casing + 450W from pcdepot too. I wonder its cap harimau psu can really provide enough juice for me SAMSUNG 2233SW for the lcd monitor , planned to order from solarwing at garage sales. For gpu, Palit ATI Radeonâ„¢ HD 4850 price taken from a seller named lingloong from garage sales.  e5200 will bottleneck my gpu right? |
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 Feb 12 2009, 01:10 PM
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QUOTE(Cloud9Nos3 @ Feb 12 2009, 01:06 PM) All the price was taken from pc depot as i can only buy it at Ipoh OC can gao tim tat... Chasis? It is JNC HJA-707 (22cm Side Fan) Casing + 450W from pcdepot too. I wonder its cap harimau psu can really provide enough juice for me SAMSUNG 2233SW for the lcd monitor , planned to order from solarwing at garage sales. For gpu, Palit ATI Radeonâ„¢ HD 4850 price taken from a seller named lingloong from garage sales. e5200 will bottleneck my gpu right? |
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Feb 12 2009, 10:19 PM
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QUOTE(Cloud9Nos3 @ Feb 12 2009, 01:06 PM) All the price was taken from pc depot as i can only buy it at Ipoh No wonder.. Prices in places other than KL is a little bit higher. QUOTE(Cloud9Nos3 @ Feb 12 2009, 01:06 PM) Chasis? It is JNC HJA-707 (22cm Side Fan) Casing + 450W from pcdepot too. I wonder its cap harimau psu can really provide enough juice for me QUOTE(Cloud9Nos3 @ Feb 12 2009, 01:06 PM) For gpu, Palit ATI Radeonâ„¢ HD 4850 price taken from a seller named lingloong from garage sales. Not really recommended. Get at least a real power 450W PSU... I usually recommend a real power 500W for HD4850, to be on the safe side. QUOTE(Cloud9Nos3 @ Feb 12 2009, 01:06 PM) e5200 will bottleneck my gpu right? This post has been edited by lex: Feb 12 2009, 10:20 PM |
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Feb 15 2009, 05:24 PM
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guys, i oc my e5200 to 3.0ghz without changing hsf and voltage, only the fsb to 240. should have no prob at all right? cos im afraid the hot weather in malaysia will have an effect to the temp. those western forum surely have no prob overclocking their e5200 cos temp freezing over there especially this time of month. but our temp is getting hotter by the day. huhu..
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Feb 15 2009, 05:38 PM
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Idle and load temp?
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Feb 15 2009, 05:40 PM
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QUOTE(danny_sp15 @ Feb 15 2009, 05:24 PM) guys, i oc my e5200 to 3.0ghz without changing hsf and voltage, only the fsb to 240. should have no prob at all right? cos im afraid the hot weather in malaysia will have an effect to the temp. those western forum surely have no prob overclocking their e5200 cos temp freezing over there especially this time of month. but our temp is getting hotter by the day. huhu.. hahhaahha.........u must be kidding mate.im sure those western forumer have a heating system on their houses or wherever they put their pc. and im sure the temp change will not be noticeable since u didn't change the voltage. |
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Feb 15 2009, 05:55 PM
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QUOTE(hilmiangah @ Feb 15 2009, 05:40 PM) hahhaahha.........u must be kidding mate. ohh.. u're right. i forgot they have heater. hehe. but if i live in siberia, i'd put the cpu outside and let it freeze. hahaha. some say if freeze the processor to subzero with liquid nitrogen can overclock and performance like crazy. anyway, im really a noobie here. i just want a simple proc that can oc without much problem on standard settings. my previous proc is celeron and pentium4 only, tu pun kedai yang bagi for the budget i specified. anyway, guess my proc is safe right? that's all i need to know. if im a rich guy, i'd learn and experiment with the proc, but afraid if oc not right then i have to fork out another rm250 for a new proc. really cant afford anymore. huhu...im sure those western forumer have a heating system on their houses or wherever they put their pc. and im sure the temp change will not be noticeable since u didn't change the voltage. |
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Feb 15 2009, 06:02 PM
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hahhaha............but u dont tell use the idle and load temperature of ur proc.
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Feb 15 2009, 06:02 PM
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is it safe for you as long you dont put too much vcore on it..oc it more until 3.2/3..many e5200 oc ther proc until this safe speed wth stock hsf..
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Feb 15 2009, 06:07 PM
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ohh.. i didnt take the temp of the cpu yet. but guessing from the fan speed and the air blowing out from the cpu isnt even warm, then i guess it's ok. my old pentium 4 if play game can feel the air from cpu fan getting warm and the fan starts spinning faster and it's really noisy. but not much change with the e5200. just hope it wont melt. hehe
Added on February 15, 2009, 6:10 pmhmm, once i have enough budget for a better hsf, then i'll learn to oc it even better! heard this card has lots of potential. This post has been edited by danny_sp15: Feb 15 2009, 06:10 PM |
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Feb 15 2009, 06:26 PM
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QUOTE(danny_sp15 @ Feb 15 2009, 06:07 PM) ohh.. i didnt take the temp of the cpu yet. but guessing from the fan speed and the air blowing out from the cpu isnt even warm, then i guess it's ok. my old pentium 4 if play game can feel the air from cpu fan getting warm and the fan starts spinning faster and it's really noisy. but not much change with the e5200. just hope it wont melt. hehe u can use a program now instead of ur hands to check the temp.Added on February 15, 2009, 6:10 pmhmm, once i have enough budget for a better hsf, then i'll learn to oc it even better! heard this card has lots of potential. use Coretemp or Real Temp. |
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Feb 15 2009, 06:28 PM
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haha, i know. it's just that i dont have internet connection in my room, now using friends laptop. he doesnt like people downloading with his laptop cos his broadband got limit. i'll update the details later. what's the ideal idle and loading temp for the proc?
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Feb 15 2009, 06:30 PM
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to me.........the idle is below 40'c for each core and not over 80'c when the processor is on load.
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Feb 15 2009, 06:39 PM
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hey im planning to get this processor... is it true that it is one of the most energy saving proc out there..??
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Feb 15 2009, 06:39 PM
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okey, i'll try to manage that. thanks bro!
Added on February 15, 2009, 6:41 pm QUOTE(nestlebliss @ Feb 15 2009, 06:39 PM) hey im planning to get this processor... is it true that it is one of the most energy saving proc out there..?? that's what i heard too.. maybe that's why lots of people say can oc well without having to change the stock hsf.This post has been edited by danny_sp15: Feb 15 2009, 06:41 PM |
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Feb 15 2009, 07:19 PM
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QUOTE(nestlebliss @ Feb 15 2009, 06:39 PM) hey im planning to get this processor... is it true that it is one of the most energy saving proc out there..?? Depends on your other components as well. I'm looking to construct a torrentbox/server with an E5200 + G31 mobo (integrated graphic), and if the reviews are any indicator it should get around 40W idle. |
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Feb 15 2009, 09:45 PM
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ermm...i've been planning to upgrade my pc for some time now...been checking out the e5200 because of its energy saving(since i download stuff from the net myself) but at the same time i would like to do some gaming(run new games but not at super high quality settings)...
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Feb 16 2009, 07:15 AM
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this proc thread never die...lol
how about e5300 and later e5xxx series?worth it like 5200? |
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Feb 16 2009, 09:23 AM
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i think same in term of performance just the multiplier is 13 and above..bus, cache is all the same..
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Feb 16 2009, 07:39 PM
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QUOTE(maxburnz @ Feb 16 2009, 07:15 AM) this proc thread never die...lol Ya, i agree with hackcremo, just a tiny bum for its speed...how about e5300 and later e5xxx series?worth it like 5200? not gonna make a huge difference, overclocked e5200 will surpass stock e5300 for sure... But, who knows maybe this new e5300 can OC better? No one tried this CPU yet? |
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Feb 16 2009, 08:07 PM
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QUOTE(vamfire @ Feb 16 2009, 07:39 PM) Ya, i agree with hackcremo, just a tiny bum for its speed... you do suicide run on your e5200 until it burn, then you buy e5300 for replacement..hehehe.. not gonna make a huge difference, overclocked e5200 will surpass stock e5300 for sure... But, who knows maybe this new e5300 can OC better? No one tried this CPU yet? This post has been edited by hackcremo: Feb 16 2009, 08:08 PM |
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Feb 16 2009, 08:26 PM
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QUOTE(hackcremo @ Feb 16 2009, 08:07 PM) you do suicide run on your e5200 until it burn, then you buy e5300 for replacement..hehehe.. Maybe when i'm tired wif my e5200 i'll might do such thing... KAMIKAZEEE! BANZAIII!Burn baby burnnn! |
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Feb 16 2009, 08:34 PM
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QUOTE(vamfire @ Feb 16 2009, 08:26 PM) Maybe when i'm tired wif my e5200 i'll might do such thing... KAMIKAZEEE! BANZAIII!Burn baby burnnn! |
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Feb 17 2009, 12:36 PM
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e5200 or e5300?
13.5x multiplier must be having more potential to oc |
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Feb 17 2009, 12:55 PM
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Multiplier alone wouldn't translate to higher overclockability i think...
Some other factors affecting it as well e.g. good/bad batch, stepping etc. Speakin' of stepping, is it also M0 for e5300? |
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Feb 17 2009, 04:04 PM
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yup agree wth you..e5300 hv R0 stepping..
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Feb 18 2009, 05:41 PM
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Actually, i know nothing stepping
Anyone here care to explain for me Will appreciate it. |
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Feb 18 2009, 06:06 PM
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Processor Stepping
refer to above link, stepping is like the improvement version of the processor..for ex: Q6600 hv two stepping that is G0 and B3..G0 has a higher thermal specification (72C as opposed to 60C), and a lower TDP (95W as opposed to 105W for the B3). This leads to lower temps and more overclocking headroom for GO stepping.. |
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Feb 20 2009, 07:07 PM
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QUOTE(danny_sp15 @ Feb 15 2009, 05:24 PM) guys, i oc my e5200 to 3.0ghz without changing hsf and voltage, only the fsb to 240. should have no prob at all right? cos im afraid the hot weather in malaysia will have an effect to the temp. those western forum surely have no prob overclocking their e5200 cos temp freezing over there especially this time of month. but our temp is getting hotter by the day. huhu.. That E5200 processor isn't even hot when overclocked. QUOTE(danny_sp15 @ Feb 15 2009, 06:28 PM) haha, i know. it's just that i dont have internet connection in my room, now using friends laptop. he doesnt like people downloading with his laptop cos his broadband got limit. i'll update the details later. what's the ideal idle and loading temp for the proc? I've got 26C on idle and 58C on Prime stress even when overclocked to 3.6GHz or 3.75GHz. QUOTE(nestlebliss @ Feb 15 2009, 06:39 PM) hey im planning to get this processor... is it true that it is one of the most energy saving proc out there..?? Yups. QUOTE(danny_sp15 @ Feb 15 2009, 06:39 PM) that's what i heard too.. maybe that's why lots of people say can oc well without having to change the stock hsf. Yups, until around 3.2GHz due to temperature and tiny stock HSF... Get a 3rd party HSF to go further, as long as the HSF is bigger than the miniscule stock one is more than good enough. QUOTE(Colonel Cabuk @ Feb 15 2009, 07:19 PM) Depends on your other components as well. I'm looking to construct a torrentbox/server with an E5200 + G31 mobo (integrated graphic), and if the reviews are any indicator it should get around 40W idle. If you are using IGP, should be much lower power consumption on idle.. QUOTE(Cloud9Nos3 @ Feb 18 2009, 05:41 PM) Actually, i know nothing stepping Stepping is a revision, usually a silicon re-spin to improve the chip such as lower power consumption, lower temperatures (usually also means higher overclockability), new features, etc. Anyone here care to explain for me Will appreciate it. |
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Feb 20 2009, 08:08 PM
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QUOTE(vamfire @ Feb 16 2009, 08:26 PM) Maybe when i'm tired wif my e5200 i'll might do such thing... KAMIKAZEEE! BANZAIII!Burn baby burnnn! |
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Feb 20 2009, 08:12 PM
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QUOTE(xk2 @ Feb 20 2009, 08:08 PM) Dun burn it , refer my siggy Have you tried pushing your E2160 further? |
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Feb 20 2009, 08:21 PM
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QUOTE(lex @ Feb 20 2009, 08:12 PM) Have you tried pushing your E2160 further? Fsb max at 295 on my MSI945GC , Bsel'ed , cannot go more than that , my fren's can go untill 3.0 on his ECS 945GC, but that is e2180 bsel'ed. i think my e2160 is a bad one ,coz even i put it on P35, it also cant go more than 2.7Ghz |
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Feb 20 2009, 08:29 PM
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haha...dun burn it.sell it and top up for a better e5xxx series..since this batch of proc is a good proc to play oc oc until burn.i recommend to my fren just to play oc with their proc.lol
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Feb 22 2009, 04:53 AM
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QUOTE(xk2 @ Feb 20 2009, 08:21 PM) Fsb max at 295 on my MSI945GC , Bsel'ed , cannot go more than that , my fren's can go untill 3.0 on his ECS 945GC, but that is e2180 bsel'ed. i think my e2160 is a bad one ,coz even i put it on P35, it also cant go more than 2.7Ghz How much Vcore did you pump? |
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Feb 22 2009, 02:26 PM
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QUOTE(lex @ Feb 22 2009, 04:53 AM) How much Vcore did you pump? 945GC BIOS dun have the voltage option There is a Vmod guide , but i din do that . Using stock vcore 1.312. About the case in P35, i try to test with two e2160 at the same time , another one can go untill 3.2 with stock vcore , mine pump untill 1.35 still cant go more than 2.7, maybe i noob Btw ,anybody wan to sell their E5200 ? i wan to buy |
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Feb 22 2009, 04:42 PM
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171 posts Joined: Feb 2005 From: North South East West
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QUOTE(xk2 @ Feb 20 2009, 08:08 PM) Dun burn it , refer my siggy Hehe... i'm not done with my E5200 yet at d momment...Still torch-ring (torture) her in order to find out how far she can go Been busy wif work la, GF la, & so on... so, not much time to spent on my torturing frenzy Its gonna take awhile i supposed... |
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Feb 22 2009, 11:09 PM
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1,299 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Puchong Utama
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nice vcore you got there..mine need 1.35V to boot on 3.5Ghz stable..
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Feb 23 2009, 04:53 PM
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388 posts Joined: Mar 2008 From: Western Front, Soviet Sarawak
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I find myself in possession of a E5200 and G31M-ES2L. Now, how do I...
*drumrolls* ...underclock this thing? Then again, if stock and underclocked E5200 eat the same amount of power, I'll stick with stock speed. |
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Feb 23 2009, 04:55 PM
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10,530 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Petaling Jaya & Mid Valley
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QUOTE(Colonel Cabuk @ Feb 23 2009, 04:53 PM) I find myself in possession of a E5200 and G31M-ES2L. Now, how do I... easiest way....just enable EIST...*drumrolls* ...underclock this thing? Then again, if stock and underclocked E5200 eat the same amount of power, I'll stick with stock speed. |
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Feb 23 2009, 06:33 PM
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18,182 posts Joined: Jan 2005 From: Dagobah
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QUOTE(Colonel Cabuk @ Feb 23 2009, 04:53 PM) I find myself in possession of a E5200 and G31M-ES2L. Now, how do I... As mADmAN says, EIST is more than good enough.. *drumrolls* ...underclock this thing? Then again, if stock and underclocked E5200 eat the same amount of power, I'll stick with stock speed. If you want to reduce the power consumption furthermore, then you can try "undervolting"... |
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Feb 23 2009, 07:16 PM
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13 posts Joined: Jul 2008 From: Kota Kinabalu, Sabah
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can abit LG-95c (intel 945GC) support e5200?
currently using P4 and I really wanna upgrade. |
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Feb 23 2009, 10:49 PM
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171 posts Joined: Feb 2005 From: North South East West
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QUOTE(Al3x7 @ Feb 23 2009, 07:16 PM) can abit LG-95c (intel 945GC) support e5200? Well, according to Abit webby, your mobo doesn't support E5200 CPU, how unfortunate currently using P4 and I really wanna upgrade. Check this out :- http://www.abit.com.tw/cpu-support-list/mb...45gc_lg-95c.htm Upgrade ur mobo & u r good to go Added on February 23, 2009, 11:59 pm QUOTE(hackcremo @ Feb 22 2009, 11:09 PM) nice vcore you got there..mine need 1.35V to boot on 3.5Ghz stable.. Thanks to my good hardware selections & not to forget my OC skills i think Still pushing for some more... I want more...! More...! More...! KebaBOOM! (until my PC blow up into pieces ) This post has been edited by vamfire: Feb 23 2009, 11:59 PM |
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Feb 26 2009, 06:02 PM
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My E5200 running IBT stress test......
Very high temp........  Attached thumbnail(s) 
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Feb 26 2009, 08:01 PM
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171 posts Joined: Feb 2005 From: North South East West
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QUOTE(altimi @ Feb 26 2009, 06:02 PM) My E5200 running IBT stress test...... Yeah i did some test wif IBT b4Very high temp........ My e5200 also heat-up nearly 70c as well with my 1.27500v it fails the test, but pass using orthos/prime95 really heavy duty stresser la that IBT |
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Feb 26 2009, 08:43 PM
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QUOTE(vamfire @ Feb 26 2009, 08:01 PM) Yeah i did some test wif IBT b4 I'm currently running at 1.3500 Vcore.... on load it shows 1.280 VoltMy e5200 also heat-up nearly 70c as well with my 1.27500v it fails the test, but pass using orthos/prime95 really heavy duty stresser la that IBT |
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Mar 5 2009, 10:06 AM
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388 posts Joined: Mar 2008 From: Western Front, Soviet Sarawak
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I have gone to 3.2 Ghz on stock fan. I feel... liberated. No stress test yet though.
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Mar 5 2009, 11:19 AM
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2,910 posts Joined: Oct 2007 From: Melaka
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Just get myself an E5200 , i notice the cooler fan is not same with my fren's E5200 cooler fan , mine is made by Nidec , my fren's is made by foxcoon , the foxcoon's very unique with sharp blade. Duno which one offer better airflow ?
p/s: The shape of the aluminium heatsink oso not same  Foxcoon  Nidec This post has been edited by xk2: Mar 5 2009, 11:27 AM |
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Mar 5 2009, 12:27 PM
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171 posts Joined: Feb 2005 From: North South East West
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It's typical of intel to outsource some of their productions(HSF) to several other companies for cost/time saving in order for mass production...
Many other electronics giants also do the same... Bout d performance? No idea, guess u have to borrow ur friend's HSF & put it into a spin then see how those two fares... |
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Mar 5 2009, 01:57 PM
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507 posts Joined: Apr 2005 From: Kuala Lumpur
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today i simply oc a E5200 (M0)
manage to get: 300 x 12.5 = 3.75Ghz 1.30vcore Abit IP35-E Bios18 Cellshock ddr2 1000 @ 1000 5-5-5-15 2T 3:5 Vdimm 2.2v (within factory recommend 2.1v~2.3v) MCH 1.53v ICH 1.50v before that i tried to find the fsb wall with multiplier 6x, but with everything stock voltage, reach from 350 till 410 still no problem on booting and SuperPi stable. still not yet go further.....too lazy...... so far not yet touch the SPD...lazy also....haha but i might wan to lower the Vcore to see how much vcore need to pump for multiplier 12.5 and reach 4Ghz how is my proc? can say moderate? |
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Mar 5 2009, 04:52 PM
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1,299 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Puchong Utama
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michealelsie : nice chip you got there..my chip fsb wall around 360..and need 1.3625 vcore to boot on stable for 3.6 Ghz..but you only need 1.3 vcore for 3.75Ghz..
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