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zeng
post Jan 2 2009, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(mitodna @ Dec 8 2008, 06:51 PM)
18 January will drop price from 84usd to 64usd, but current USD at 3.6, if you using 3.3 rate, then it will be RM210 for 18 January only.
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Yeah, I had read that a few Intel models drop price on 18 Jan 09. E 5200 drops from usd84 to usd 76, not usd 74 bro.

Stock cooler + stock voltage 1.175V bios gives 3.125 Ghz fsb 250.Stable.

Stock cooler + 1.2875 V bios gives 3.475 Ghz at fsb 278.....Idle 42C, Orthos 24 hrs stable max 70C.

Multi = 12.5 x

Gonna to replace stock cooler and oc to 4Ghz??? Can I make it ?..hehehe...

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post Jan 2 2009, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(steventan85 @ Jan 2 2009, 10:24 PM)
wat ram u r using ? kingston value ram ?

and powersupply pls ....  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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Cheapoo Kingston Value ram 667Mhz 1 GB x 2.
Fsb/ram ratio at 2:3 -->834Mhz at V dimm on auto. Unstable when exceeds ram 866Mhz with ratio 3:5 fsb/ram.

Asus P5QL Pro P43 chipset , and Gigabyte 8600GT gc.

Silverstone Strident 56 F at 560W. Psu kind of oversize for this setup. whistling.gif


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QUOTE(shahzz @ Jan 2 2009, 10:20 PM)
You can. But need to play safe with Vcore.
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What''s the safe V core btw?? Any clue please ? hmm.gif


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post Jan 2 2009, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(shahzz @ Jan 2 2009, 10:43 PM)
<1.4v can be considered safe.
What do you mean by cu voltage?
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<1.4 V... that is sweet.

Ya lor what our friend meant by cu voltage?
I think it means voltage for the 'Copper' thing inside the cpu or the mobo ......hahaha.
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post Jan 2 2009, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(syafix @ Jan 2 2009, 10:49 PM)
CPU voltage...
correct me if wrong  blush.gif
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Oh i see.... my V core = your cpu voltage.

The keyword in my question is : SAFE.

Thanks for responding anyway.

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post Jan 2 2009, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(shahzz @ Jan 2 2009, 10:59 PM)
This is my current 24/7 settings:

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All I can say is this E5200 really worth every penny we spent.
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On stock cooler? Nice one.

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post Jan 2 2009, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(shahzz @ Jan 2 2009, 11:03 PM)
Yes. Stock cooler.
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I can't reboot at Fsb 280 , even tho multi lowers to 10x or 8x.

Play around with NB, sb and termination voltage by going to max, doesn't help either.

Any idea where I go wrong?? Now stuck at fsb 278 x 12.5. I t is not temperature issue I suppose.
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post Jan 2 2009, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(shahzz @ Jan 2 2009, 11:14 PM)
Try lower down your motherboard's chipset multiplier.
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I did that with 10x; 8x; 11x etc.

NB voltage max to 1.4V

Sb max to 1.7V;

Termination voltage something max to 1.4V,

fsb/ram ratio adjusted to 1:1

Ram timings 6;6 :6: 18 etc

All no go , don't know why?

Anyway newbie 1st oc here.


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QUOTE(xk2 @ Jan 2 2009, 11:16 PM)
try to adjust the divider to 1:1 ,i guess ur ram make u cant reboot hmm.gif
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I went down 1:1 to get ram speed 560Mhz....also same no reboot.


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post Jan 3 2009, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(shahzz @ Jan 2 2009, 11:53 PM)



Can you give me your motherboard model please?
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My mobo is Asus P5QL Pro P43 chipset.

I googled this mobo/P43 chipset can touch fsb 400.

Whereas E 5200 can go for 330 to 350 Mhz agak agak, of course with lower multi. biggrin.gif
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post Jan 3 2009, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(heizad @ Jan 3 2009, 12:14 AM)
no wonder both of u were posting like u've been here for quite some times tongue.gif btw anyone got stable 4Gz? brows.gif mine only 3.6GHz due to multiplier limitation by my mobo sweat.gif
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Mind telling us your mobo model pl?

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post Jan 3 2009, 12:57 AM

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QUOTE(heizad @ Jan 3 2009, 12:48 AM)
only use dfi blood iron p35-t2RL
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Care to enlighten us further on 'Multipllier limitations' in this mobo??Newbie here.
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post Jan 3 2009, 01:17 AM

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QUOTE(heizad @ Jan 3 2009, 01:03 AM)
i'm not sure whether i'm correct or not..but default multiplier for this proc is 12.5 rite..but my mobo support up to 12 only...
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Yeah E 5200 default multi is 12.5x

I read that, on some mobo, one must activate something in Bios to make use of '.5x'

May be this is what happens to you now.

My Asus P5QL Pro dun have this problem.

Maybe sifus out there can provide guidance??

Any one??

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post Jan 3 2009, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(steventan85 @ Jan 3 2009, 12:20 PM)
for SPD , i can only choose 2.66 , 3.33 and 4+ .... i cant get 2.0 for me to choose ....

so now my FSB : DRAM is 3:5 ...kind of weird
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Indeed, your bios is set at spd 3.33, or if you are on auto, your auto has selected spd 3.33 --> giving you fsb/ram ratio 3:5 .What is your ram operating speed?? Well it depends on what is your fsb now in bios or cpuz.

May I know what is your mobo model ?

and in Bios, what is your fsb now?

In your sig, your fsb is 225Mhz and you are running at a fsb/ram ratio of 1:2 (equivalent to spd thing 4+ ??) --- > giving you 450 Mhz ram speed. Now with a DDR 2, your so called 800 Mhz ram(ii.e rated speed) is now operating at 900Mhz i.e being overclocked.

fsb:ram ratio you mentioned above as 3:5. It is not in tandem with your sig........ Are you talking about another setup or just a hypothetical case???????? Rather confusing leh.......

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post Jan 3 2009, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(steventan85 @ Jan 3 2009, 01:12 PM)
set it at bios d and it show 533mhz .... so i need to set either 4+ or auto to get 800mhz  smile.gif
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Your physical ram of 800Mhz rated speed is now operating at 533Mhz.

Now what is the fsb/ram ratio now??? That depends on what is your fsb as indicated in your bios/cpuz/occt etc now!

Scenario 1:

cpuz/bios fsb is 266Mhz

Then your fsb/ram ratio is 1:1 (equivalent to spd thing 2.0) , because your DDR 2 ram speed is 2 x fsb giving you 533 Mhz.

Scenario 2:

cpuz/bios fsb is showing 222Mhz

Then your fsb/ram ratio now is 5:6( equinalent to spd thing 2.4).......... giving you ram speed of 533Mhz also .


Scenario 3 :

cpuz/bios fsb is showing 213Mhz

Then your fsb/ram rato is now 4:5(equivalent to spd thing 2.50), giving you DDR 2 ram speed of 533Mhz.

In all the above scenarios, your physical rams of rated speed s of 667Mhz or 800Mhz or xxxMhz are NOT operating at their respective speeds of 667/800/xxxMhz.They all operate at 533Mhz!!

The question now is what is your cpuz/bios fsb??? Having identified your actual fsb now,and select the available fsb/ram ratio in your bios, then only we can talk about what is the operating speed in Mhz of your 800Mhz ram (rated speed)

In scenarios 2 and 3 above, your 800Mhz rated speed ram can NEVER operate at a DDR2 frequency of 800Mhz simply because the 'suitable ratio of say 5:9 fsb/ram ratio is NOT available in typical Motherboards.

Hope it helps. tongue.gif

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