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post Aug 18 2004, 02:38 PM, updated 16y ago

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I wrote a short write-up on how I polished and maintained my car a while back but that thread must have been purged. Recently someone had asked about polish/wax/clean car so I thought I would share my experiences with you.

The very first time I did this, the whole process I think took me more than 10 hours if I remember correctly. After I 'perfected' the process tongue.gif I now spend a good 6 hours or so to get that perfect shine. Anyway here goes...

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Some of the products used:
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Step 1: Wash car
The very first time I did this, I used a dishwashing liquid. Now I know what you're thinking, that's nuts but I would only do this one time to make sure I get all the grime/oil/dirt off the paint of the car. I used Dawn blue which seems to be recommended most of the time. Remember you do not want to use this regularly which is why I only did this once. You can use a regular car wash liquid if you are not comfortable doing this. But the goal here is to remove as much foreign contamination so the coat of polish can seal the paint properly.

Don't just use any old rags to wash your car. You'll be sorry. I buy a special sheepskin wash mitts to avoid fine scratches during washing. It's plush and gentle on the paint of your car. Wash your wheels first. I use a wheel cleaning brush that can reach into the spoke of the wheels to properly remove dirt and all.

Step 2: Clay
After washing off all the dishwashing liquid, I start the claying process. You do not have to dry your car first. Prepare a spray bottle that contain water/car wash liquid to use as lubricant. Claying is easy but you have to be careful or you will end up scratching your paint. Why clay? The clay as your rub over the paint of your car will pick up any additional grime/dirt/tar/bird droppings/etc from the paint. Your local car parts store should have this.

Here's how you do it. Spray an area with the water/car wash liquid mixture. Kneed a small piece of clay (that you can hold comfortably with your fingers and not drop it) and rub it over the sprayed area. For the top area of the car, use a front/back motion and for the side area of the car, use an up/down motion. Rub over the same area until you feel it going over the paint smoothly. Spray more lubricant if needed. Remember to kneed the clay after so many passes as you do not want the stuff that it picks up to scratch other paint area that you are claying. If you happen to drop it on the floor, THROW it AWAY. Do not try to use it again. It will now have dirt stuck to it from the floor and you will end up scratching your car. It's not worth trying to save a few bucks over your $$$ car. I went over every inch of the paint that I can get to with the clay.

Step 3: Rewash car
This time, use a normal car wash liquid to wash off any clay residual.

Step 4: Dry Car
I use a soft silicon squeege and run it over car to remove water quickly. To finish the drying, use a 100% cotton plush towel to complete the job. Before going forward, I inspect the paint and remove any minor scratches with Meguiars ScratchX.

Step 5: Quick detail before applying polish
I use Zaino Z6 Gloss Enhancer to quick detail the car. Spray on and wipe off with a new clean 100% cotton towel. This will remove any water spot and leave the paint smooth.

Step 6: First coat of polish
I use Zaino Z5 with ZFX to provide a faster drying time. You can use a product of your choice. Use a clean polish applicator pad and squeeze a dime size polish on the applicator pad. Polish a small area in circular motion and on top area of the car, finish with a front/back motion and on side area of the car, finish with up/down motion. This is recommended by the polish manufacturer to enhance the optical property of the polish. Z5 is suppose to further reduced swirl marks and fine hairline scratches from the paint. Wait 30 minutes to dry. (Follow the instructions of your polish product if you use a different product)

Step 7: Clean windows/interior
While waiting for the polish to dry, I take the time to clean the windows and interior of the car. I used RainX and Stoner Invisible glass product for the windows/glass, 303 Aerospace Protectant for dashboard/vinyl/plastic interior, leather care product for leather parts. Since there are multiple drying times, I tend to split the interior detailing between the drying times.

Step 8: Buff and apply second coat
After it has dried, use another clean 100% cotton towel and buff off dried polish. For the second coat, I use Zaino Z2 with ZFX. Same method as first coat.

Step 9: Buff and apply third coat
Again, after the second coat has dried, buff off with a clean 100% cotton towel. By now, the car has that truely wet shine that you'll love. wink.gif

Step 10: Final quick detail
After removing all the polish, I quick detail the car again with a shot of Zaino Z6 to make sure I removed all polish residual and to give the paint that extra shine. At this step, I also apply Meguiars High Gloss Gel to the car tires to give it that shine.

Step 11: Finish
This is the most satisfying part of the whole process. Step back and admire your work. Get a cold drink (non-alcohol wink.gif) and inspect the car. Get your keys ready as you know you just want to jump in and take it for a joy ride!!! smile.gif


That's it. You're done. To summarize, what you want to do is:

Wash, Clay, Wash, dry, quick detail, polish, buff, polish, buff, polish, buff, quick detail. I specify the product that I used in writing this but by all means use a product of your choice. Always remember to read the instructions and follow them especially mixing, applying and drying times. But other than that, it should be pretty straight forward. The reason I went with Zaino or a polymer based polish is I do not want to use a product with rubbing compound. I would only use that if there is oxidation on the paint and I absolutely have to rub it off. Hope this helps anyone who wants to get their car looking great! Have a great day and enjoy your car. smile.gif smile.gif

[EDIT]
The product that I used is suppose to be able to protect up to 9 months or so. So I only have to do this about 2 times a year. Other times, wash as needed, dry, quick detail and I have that shine back. Easy... smile.gif If I am in the mood I will wash, clay, wash, dry, and quick detail without applying the 3 layers of polish. Read the instructions on the product you are using. smile.gif


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Some pictures after all the hard work:
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This post has been edited by RedBox: Mar 8 2010, 01:01 PM
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post Aug 18 2004, 02:55 PM

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wooo...nice...thanks for the guide.
can mod plz pinned this up
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post Aug 18 2004, 03:17 PM

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eh ? can i ask 1 question ? where you buy this item?

Acura got sell in malaysia meh ? i saw the street sign are not from m'sia wor

pls correct me ~!
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post Aug 18 2004, 03:28 PM

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he is not in malaysia wan la..c the background oso know la. acura malaysia dun have...honda got la...can change the logo wan biggrin.gif ..
anyway...the items all can get in eneos ler..dun have to be the exact item...as long the item does the same job
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don't polish too much
only recommended 6 month once, polishing makes your clear coat goes thinner and thinner. its bad.


after polish apply a layer or two of wax like the meguairs polymer wax for non dark color paint and the meguairs hi-tech yellow wax for the dark paint. this is for the protection.

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post Aug 18 2004, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE (d@id @ Aug 18 2004, 04:44 AM)
hrmm

don't polish too much
only recommended 6 month once, polishing makes your clear coat goes thinner and thinner. its bad.


after polish apply a layer or two of wax like the meguairs polymer wax for non dark color paint and the meguairs hi-tech yellow wax for the dark paint. this is for the protection.

d@id,

That is the reason why I chose a polymer based polish. What you mentioned is probably for people that uses some type of rubbing compound. I'm glad you brought this up as I will add it to my notes. The polish that I use is suppose to protect up to 9 months. I only have to do this like maybe 2 times a year or 3 if I really feel like it.

Other times, I would only have to do a quick wash, dry, quick detail and it's goood to go. And there is also nothing to apply after the process above. The 3 layers is the protection and the shine. I am not sure if it is available in M'sia but you can check it out at www.zainostore.com.


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QUOTE (RedBox @ Aug 18 2004, 09:28 PM)
d@id,

That is the reason why I chose a polymer based polish. What you mentioned is probably for people that uses some type of rubbing compound. I'm glad you brought this up as I will add it to my notes. The polish that I use is suppose to protect up to 9 months. I only have to do this like maybe 2 times a year or 3 if I really feel like it.

Other times, I would only have to do a quick wash, dry, quick detail and it's goood to go. And there is also nothing to apply after the process above. The 3 layers is the protection and the shine. I am not sure if it is available in M'sia but you can check it out at www.zainostore.com.


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oh ok

actually those polish are not rubbing base, they are abbrasive polish , supposely used to remove a very very 1% thin layer of the clear coat . done correctly the paint will return to a shiny status.

frankly speaking my paint is more shiny then yours. not because i got good polish , but its the wax job, i got a black paint, preparation polish job 3 steps done by meguairs certified professionals. then the first layer of wax is polymer based"no 26 meguairs", then 2 layers of carnuba base wax"hi-tech yellow wax" is applied. "carnuba can be applied up to 7 layers" . my car can reflect sunlight to the overhead sign boards as well. If you are gonna try this , a note to you , carnuba wax only works for dark paint , for light color paint you would try nxt tech wax by meguairs , and remember the polymer wax can only be applied one layer, polymer has a efect of cleaning other waxes below it. if you are using a dark paint and want to do the steps i said, make sure the polymer is dried and excesive wax dust removed by micro fibre cloth first.

so i just think you might try some wax, it adds protection and extra gloss.

my vehicle is in a heavy waxed status that water won't even stick on the paint . you can pour water and if its more the water have force to flow down else it will form as a bigger drop of water on top and if i move the car a bit the water drop falls down. everytime after a rain period it will drys up itself without leaving water mark on the vehicle.

well i am attaching the pictures of one of my vehicle that undergo the process i just said.

i am just curious bout polymer based polish , polish is supposed to grind a small layer of the clear coat out to create a new look paint condition. thats the defination of car polish .. or your product is a kind of wax ?

well lets exchange more info as i am a car detailing enthusiast also.

below taken by phone camera, lousy quality but the shine of the car definately notisable.

will get my after detailed pictures from my friend's shop , he use my car's picture as a show of what they can do if i am not mistaken. endurance high gloss for tyres definately a good choice, it protects up to weeks with some new tyre look shine , and its not too shiny . just nice for the looks. "too shiny makes it looks fake"

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post Aug 18 2004, 10:39 PM

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Redbox,

this thread and pictures are so familiar to me, u post this before right?

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Thanks for the effort for recompiling the info m8. Really appreciate it. Will pin this thread up for good. smile.gif

And, NiCkY, yes, it was somehow a rewritten thread as the old one was purged. wink.gif
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QUOTE (GRexer @ Aug 18 2004, 10:44 PM)
Thanks for the effort for recompiling the info m8. Really appreciate it. Will pin this thread up for good. smile.gif

And, NiCkY, yes, it was somehow a rewritten thread as the old one was purged. wink.gif

yeah, that's why last time i try to search also cant get it...

this time pinned liow, takan lari... biggrin.gif
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teps used to polish my car.

First it is washed with user posted image

then clay is used with quik detailer as lubricant
user posted image

then wash again using user posted image

after theese are done, a blower is used to blow all waters out from the car.

then the polish job begin with dewalts machine and a compatible polish pad "japanese cars and continental cars have to use different polish pad as the paint structure is different"

1st Step : user posted image
2nd Step :user posted image
3rd Step : user posted image]

it is then rinse with water to remove all the dust and blowed dry again. it is now perfectly shining but then its not enough , got to add some protection and extra gloss

then .

user posted image is used for protection.
after the wax dry and the exesive wax dust removed

user posted image is used to bring out more of the color , yellow wax is carnuba base.

hope this helps

for tyre is concern i am using endurance high gloss like redbox.

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Good write up!
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I would agree that wax will do a better shine. Syntetic wax I think will not look as good as carnauba wax on top but as I have read carnauba wax will thin off from the sun. Syntetic wax nowadays also offer the same paint protection but you are right in that you will get a better shine with the carnauba wax on top of the syntetic wax. I like my car to look good but having to apply it more often, I probably will get lazy on it. tongue.gif On top of that I wanted it to shine but not to the point of watery/slivery shine as then basically all you see is the shine, not like looking at a high gloss color paint. Hope that makes sense. smile.gif I am sure most of you have seen dark color looking car especially black that looks shiny to the point where you go wow over the shine but then you really don't notice the colors any more. It may be just me.... tongue.gif

Ditto on the tire shine. Too shiny and it looks fake. I want it to obtain a certain high gloss clean shine but not too fake. laugh.gif

If I get another car, I would probably try your method. I will hate to change method in the middle of it. But to answer your question, when I say polish I don't mean thining off a layer to make it look good but I want the polymer to form a layer of high optical property that seals the paint and protect it.


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yeah you should try the polymer sealant from meguairs as well later on. i will get another car later on with silver paint, then i'ld get it waxed using the meguiars polymer products lets see the outcome ,keep u posted

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1 question here...

we have to cold down our engine b4 we wax our car ? Y ?
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QUOTE (d@id @ Aug 18 2004, 12:18 PM)
yeah you should try the polymer sealant from meguairs as well later on. i will get another car later on with silver paint, then i'ld get it waxed using the meguiars polymer products lets see the outcome ,keep u posted

Cool. smile.gif I would love to hear your experiences on the comparison.


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where can i buy those product you posted? u selling? tongue.gif
how is the price range? expensive??
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QUOTE (Suk @ Aug 18 2004, 04:11 PM)
1 question here...

we have to cold down our engine b4 we wax our car ? Y ?

I don't see how that be something to question... tongue.gif Reason, you would have washed your car properly and by that time, your car should have been cool enough. But think about it, would you even start spraying water on the hot surface of the car and cause the sudden contraction/expansion.... That's just crazy.

Plus if you're waxing with the engine hot, that means you did not wash your car first and your license and right to own a car should be taken away. laugh.gif

Some products that have abrasive compound will dry faster with the heat and with direct sunlight causing you to more likely scratch your paint and for products that don't then it may dry too fast for it to properly cure and protect your paint.


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QUOTE (Suk @ Aug 19 2004, 05:11 AM)
1 question here...

we have to cold down our engine b4 we wax our car ? Y ?

before you polish.
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QUOTE (gaban @ Aug 19 2004, 09:40 AM)
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where can i buy those product you posted? u selling? tongue.gif
how is the price range? expensive??

hrmm expensive .. the polymer sealant itself small bottol is RM70 , carwash RM38 , others cannot remember.

the product i posted is actually used by the car grooming shop to groom my car.
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wow how long did it take you to do all the steps?
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my car ? preparation job 6 hours by the shop

maintanance job 3 hours weekly.
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i dont think i will 'detail' my car until this level...but recently, i started to polish my car once every 2 weeks...

the feeling is like, when ur car body look nice, few years down the road, you will still love and take care of it lo...

imagine now you dun care for it, after a few years, the paint work gone, scratch here and there, do you think you still have that 'first love' feeling? no lor...

minimum take care is a MUST, BUT my salute to those ppl who really 'detail' their car, i just dun have the ommph yet haha
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polish every 2 weeks?...or u mean wax??...
ppl normally polish once every six months.
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polish every 2 weeks wao .... ur paint will K.O in matter of 1 year
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then is wax then biggrin.gif haha
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damn that is an awesome car. where do u live redbox? and r u malaysian abroad? if yes, how is the left hand drive works?
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QUOTE (RedBox @ Aug 18 2004, 02:38 PM)
I wrote a short write-up on how I polished and maintained my car a while back but that thread must have been purged. Recently someone had asked about polish/wax/clean car so I thought I would share my experiences with you.

The very first time I did this, the whole process I think took me more than 10 hours if I remember correctly. After I 'perfected' the process tongue.gif I now spend a good 6 hours or so to get that perfect shine. Anyway here goes...

Some of the products used:
user posted image

Step 1: Wash car
The very first time I did this, I used a dishwashing liquid. Now I know what you're thinking, that's nuts but I would only do this one time to make sure I get all the grime/oil/dirt off the paint of the car. I used Dawn blue which seems to be recommended most of the time. Remember you do not want to use this regularly which is why I only did this once. You can use a regular car wash liquid if you are not comfortable doing this. But the goal here is to remove as much foreign contamination so the coat of polish can seal the paint properly.

Don't just use any old rags to wash your car. You'll be sorry. I buy a special sheepskin wash mitts to avoid fine scratches during washing. It's plush and gentle on the paint of your car. Wash your wheels first. I use a wheel cleaning brush that can reach into the spoke of the wheels to properly remove dirt and all.

Step 2: Clay
After washing off all the dishwashing liquid, I start the claying process. You do not have to dry your car first. Prepare a spray bottle that contain water/car wash liquid to use as lubricant. Claying is easy but you have to be careful or you will end up scratching your paint. Why clay? The clay as your rub over the paint of your car will pick up any additional grime/dirt/tar/bird droppings/etc from the paint. Your local car parts store should have this.

Here's how you do it. Spray an area with the water/car wash liquid mixture. Kneed a small piece of clay (that you can hold comfortably with your fingers and not drop it) and rub it over the sprayed area. For the top area of the car, use a front/back motion and for the side area of the car, use an up/down motion. Rub over the same area until you feel it going over the paint smoothly. Spray more lubricant if needed. Remember to kneed the clay after so many passes as you do not want the stuff that it picks up to scratch other paint area that you are claying. If you happen to drop it on the floor, THROW it AWAY. Do not try to use it again. It will now have dirt stuck to it from the floor and you will end up scratching your car. It's not worth trying to save a few bucks over your $$$ car. I went over every inch of the paint that I can get to with the clay.

Step 3: Rewash car
This time, use a normal car wash liquid to wash off any clay residual.

Step 4: Dry Car
I use a soft silicon squeege and run it over car to remove water quickly. To finish the drying, use a 100% cotton plush towel to complete the job. Before going forward, I inspect the paint and remove any minor scratches with Meguiars ScratchX.

Step 5: Quick detail before applying polish
I use Zaino Z6 Gloss Enhancer to quick detail the car. Spray on and wipe off with a new clean 100% cotton towel. This will remove any water spot and leave the paint smooth.

Step 6: First coat of polish
I use Zaino Z5 with ZFX to provide a faster drying time. You can use a product of your choice. Use a clean polish applicator pad and squeeze a dime size polish on the applicator pad. Polish a small area in circular motion and on top area of the car, finish with a front/back motion and on side area of the car, finish with up/down motion. This is recommended by the polish manufacturer to enhance the optical property of the polish. Z5 is suppose to further reduced swirl marks and fine hairline scratches from the paint. Wait 30 minutes to dry. (Follow the instructions of your polish product if you use a different product)

Step 7: Clean windows/interior
While waiting for the polish to dry, I take the time to clean the windows and interior of the car. I used RainX and Stoner Invisible glass product for the windows/glass, 303 Aerospace Protectant for dashboard/vinyl/plastic interior, leather care product for leather parts. Since there are multiple drying times, I tend to split the interior detailing between the drying times.

Step 8: Buff and apply second coat
After it has dried, use another clean 100% cotton towel and buff off dried polish. For the second coat, I use Zaino Z2 with ZFX. Same method as first coat.

Step 9: Buff and apply third coat
Again, after the second coat has dried, buff off with a clean 100% cotton towel. By now, the car has that truely wet shine that you'll love. wink.gif

Step 10: Final quick detail
After removing all the polish, I quick detail the car again with a shot of Zaino Z6 to make sure I removed all polish residual and to give the paint that extra shine. At this step, I also apply Meguiars High Gloss Gel to the car tires to give it that shine.

Step 11: Finish
This is the most satisfying part of the whole process. Step back and admire your work. Get a cold drink (non-alcohol wink.gif) and inspect the car. Get your keys ready as you know you just want to jump in and take it for a joy ride!!! smile.gif


That's it. You're done. To summarize, what you want to do is:

Wash, Clay, Wash, dry, quick detail, polish, buff, polish, buff, polish, buff, quick detail. I specify the product that I used in writing this and by all means use a product of your choice. Always remember to read the instructions and follow them especially mixing, applying and drying times. But other than that, it should be pretty straight forward. The reason I went with Zaino or a polymer based polish is I do not want to use a product with rubbing compound. I would only use that if there is oxidation on the paint and I absolutely have to rub it off. Hope this helps anyone who wants to get their car looking great! Have a great day and enjoy your car. smile.gif smile.gif

[EDIT]
The product that I used is suppose to be able to protect up to 9 months or so. So I only have to do this about 2 times a year. Other times, wash as needed, dry, quick detail and I have that shine back. Easy... smile.gif If I am in the mood I will wash, clay, wash, dry, and quick detail without applying the 3 layers of polish. Read the instructions on the product you are using. smile.gif


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Some pictures after all the hard work:
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Wow.........looks like showroom condition after u polished it, IMO, better than showroom's one !

Goo job for this tread !
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hehe i guess u haven't see real showroom cars before.

hrmm this line is confusing

what i mean is showroom cars has loads of polymer on it for the shine, while redbox's car is pure on the paint color itself.

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i'm using the WASH & WAX only RM10+
this product good or not ?
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well camera lousy ... stupid nokia flip phone camera. what was the model for the nokia flip phone ? damn i can't even remember the model of my own phone.


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QUOTE (cocklea @ Sep 2 2004, 06:46 AM)
damn that is an awesome car. where do u live redbox? and r u malaysian abroad? if yes, how is the left hand drive works?

Cocklea, I am in the United States. Left hand drive works just the same as right hand drive. Here I'm sitting on the left in the car but drive on the right side of the road. Back home we sit on the right but drive on the left side of the road. smile.gif

Different arm on operating the stick. It won't take you very long to get use to it.


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hehe i guess u haven't see real showroom cars before.

hrmm this line is confusing

what i mean is showroom cars has loads of polymer on it for the shine, while redbox's car is pure on the paint color itself.

Heheh... I guess you're right. laugh.gif Not near showroom cars shine but still pretty much the shinest on the road where I live here... cool.gif

I sense an urge to do give it a good polish again soon. Winter is coming so I want to try to work in another good layer before it gets cold. smile.gif smile.gif

By the way, I had used cotton towel for the job that I always do on my car but will probably change and use microfiber towel next. Heard and read nothing but good things about them.


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i need a better camera, another 2 vehicle are in the backyard with everything stripped down , one being 1/2 done with dynamat and another one will start next week. haha. oops what i am trying to say is the 2 vehicle is more shiny then this . but still i need a better camera, its very very nice but the camera ruin everything.

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hey guys..
this seems interesting

http://www.5starshine.com/

anyway...d@id. did visisted HB...but derrick always not around. currently me looking wether can get a place that uses PTFE or not.

and..as for Glare...did heard ppl said it was not good. after glared. no shining glossy effect. and guess what, there are even ppl saying, those glaze are actually not wanted product in US anymore..thats y they push it to Asia..dunno how true is that.

did discuss with a car poislihing detailer..
if want Carbauna Wax ...go for SWISSOL..
if want Polymer..go for MG
if want old tech...can go for AUTOGLYM..
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HB will get meguairs official certification soon, think within this 2 months tongue.gif and the first meguiars certified grooming theyt say. meguiars people from usa is coming down. anyway its hard for me to take a pic of my vehicle wih the lousy camera, if not u can sure see the shine . anyway . go there la they got a photo album
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HB will get meguairs official certification soon,  think within this 2 months tongue.gif and the first meguiars certified grooming theyt say. meguiars people from usa is coming down. anyway its hard for me to take a pic of my vehicle wih the lousy camera, if not u can sure see the shine . anyway . go there la they got a photo album
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Does anyone know how much is this Meguiar's NXT Generation Tech Wax? Where can i get it?

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i get offer for that NXT Tech Wax, RM60++, is it a good buy?

the NXT Tech Wax is good enough?

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of course

another good brand is zainol . zainol has the best mist and wipe detailer . its better then meguiar's quik detailer but others are comparable and some not as good as meguiars.
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I use Meg's everything for my car. Detailing isn't cheap when you think about how much it costs us over here. In US, a bottle of Meg's wax is only a couple of bucks whereas we pay 2-5x more over here.
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Anyone know where can I get MG's Quick Clay? Tried ACE Hardware at Midvalley and Ikano and they dont seem to have it.


Eneos sells this Magic Clay from Japan.. dont know how good it is

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got . ace hardware got

quik clay detailing kit

it comes with a quik detailer and a clay

which is supposed to be used together
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Uhh... I did mentioned I went to both ACE Hardware @ Ikano & Midvalley

Probably out of stock I guess.

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look for the quik detailing kit like i said

not the clay

focus on the quik detailing kit

its quik detailer + clay inside a box

if you won't read the content u won't know it has a clay inside
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daid,

is the quik clay is very efficient? is it can clean almost anything on the top of the paint?

how about the Deep Crystal paint cleaner?

cause MG stuff quite expensive, and i need to get other stuff too... just wanna know the result then buy... if got a place can test MG stuff before buy then lagi cun~~~ thumbup.gif

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the clay is efficient. but you need to do it very properly . clay is something like deep crystal paint cleaner but more efficient and harder to use. its something like a preparation job , after the clay you will need to do your polishing.

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QUOTE(sherwin @ Oct 7 2004, 09:24 PM)
Uhh... I did mentioned I went to both ACE Hardware @ Ikano & Midvalley

Probably out of stock I guess.
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QUOTE(d@id @ Oct 9 2004, 10:00 PM)
the clay is efficient. but you need to do it very properly . clay is something like deep crystal paint cleaner but more efficient and harder to use. its something like a preparation job , after the clay you will need to do your polishing.
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icic, but i get the other way round info at meguiars website, it said when a stain that Quik Detailer cant clean then have to use Paint Cleaner liow... ohmy.gif

here is it, http://www.meguiars.com/faq/_index.cfm?faq...section=_48#_48

alamak now i a bit blur blur liow... blink.gif ...
dunno which 1 to get for, scare later buy liow Quik Detailer then didnt works much for me then have to buy Paint Cleaner... sad.gif

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quik detailer is not to clean ler.

u got to use clay then use quik detailer to lubricate the clay ...

its a preparation job.

after using this u got to use diamond cut then dual action then speed glaze then only wax for optimum results.
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QUOTE(d@id @ Oct 10 2004, 03:44 PM)
quik detailer is not to clean ler.

u got to use clay then use quik detailer to lubricate the clay ...

its a preparation job.

after using this u got to use diamond cut then dual action then speed glaze then only wax for optimum results.
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hihi, maybe u didnt get what i mean...

i did not mention the quik detailer only, i mention about the Quik Detailer package with the clay bar... the RM60 package 1...

so the Quik Detailer + the clay bar can clean the paint surface? or i should go for paint cleaner if i wanna clean the paint surface...

paise paise, new to MG stuff, too many product, blur blur liow... lolz... laugh.gif
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hrmmm.

ask you some questions , how much your budget to buy all the products and do you have a polishing machine
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QUOTE(d@id @ Oct 10 2004, 06:13 PM)
hrmmm.

ask you some questions , how much your budget to buy all the products and do you have a polishing machine
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around RM100+- tongue.gif ...

i didnt have polishing machine ooh sad.gif , i always use hand job... tongue.gif ...

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hand job won't beat a good machine polishing job hrmm .

your budget not enough .
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QUOTE(d@id @ Oct 10 2004, 11:39 PM)
hand job won't beat a good machine polishing job hrmm .

your budget not enough .
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ya i know, cause i not going serious into detailing...

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now i just wanna clean my paint surface, got some stains that i mentioned in my PM to u 1 ar...
after that polish or wax... can i polish my car? since the paint still new... huh.gif

getting the NXT wax liow... then now see whether which 1 can clean the paint surface lo...

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don't get the nxt wax.

get the polymer sealant.

as for your stains , cleaning it with quik detailer+clay and polishing it with something like speedglaze would help , finally , carefully apply a layer of polymer sealant

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QUOTE(d@id @ Oct 10 2004, 11:55 PM)
don't get the nxt wax.

get the polymer sealant.

as for your stains , cleaning it with quik detailer+clay and polishing it with something like speedglaze would help , finally , carefully apply a layer of polymer sealant
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the NXT wax not good ar? alamak, dunno my sister bought liow or not... sweat.gif

the polymer sealant u mention is No.20 is it? quite expensine also... sad.gif

wow, speed glaze also expensive... sweat.gif

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polymer sealant is either 20 or 26 , can't remember.

well nxt wax is not bad as well :>

nxt wax is the nxt tech series. i prefer the professional series which is numbered like the polymer sealant. i got new steps of polshing as well.


nxt car wash the whole car
then use bug and tar remover to remove all the bug and tar that is sticking on the vehicle , wash again and this time with clay . bosch blower is then used to blow the car dry.

preparation job is done now .

step 1 : diamond cut is used to prepare the surface " always make sure that you don't polish the surface until it becomes to hot " if yes wait a while then continue , after done , water is rinsed to remove all the dust. then blower is used to dry it again, next step is dual action . same thing rinse with water and blow after done, then speed glaze, same as well.

okay this is next. meguair show car glaze no 7 is used . "this is extremely hard to buff off so don't leave it to dry too long" . one layer "do it panel by panel" applied then buff off immediately and when your done, use quik detailer to wipe again.

apply 7 layers of no 7 at least, will take 3 hours.

after your done and your stastify with the wet look aka shine. , apply meguairs yellow wax , a moderate layer "not too thin not too thick for protection.

now here you go , washing once a week with nxt car wash would last you 1 month , after one month , apply a layer of no 7 again then a layer of yellow wax



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QUOTE(d@id @ Oct 11 2004, 12:02 AM)
polymer sealant is either 20 or 26 , can't remember.
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k check liow, is 20...

hmmh, maybe i get the quik detailer pack 1st la...

then if cant baru go for the speed glaze instead of normal polish... sweat.gif

thanks 4 the help~~~ biggrin.gif
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to nicky : read my edited post , just incase you missed it.
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to nicky : read my edited post , just incase you missed it.
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wow, hihihi, nice info there~~~

if i do that, my car will become more shining than new car... biggrin.gif

but i still student, no so much budget go for professional detailing, next year finish study liow then mostly will change car when working... that time baru i go harry bright there for start my detailing journey~~~ laugh.gif

now no need to invest so much for my current car, mostly will sell later... tongue.gif
just need some basic detail and protection to keep the paint in good condition... smile.gif

thanks for the info... biggrin.gif
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Hmm.... if you spend some time learning and doing your own detailing I think you can save on having someone else do it. It is not really hard, just time consuming. smile.gif


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hi guys, have been browsing through this forum for the past few weeks browsing through the HP information. din realise that you all have a detailing forum here. cool~~.

NXT wax is a polymer sealant. and d@id, diamond cut is a very aggresive compound. you wouldn't want to use it even twice a year. you would want to use it the first time for a really bad finish, then use something milder like DACP for minor touch ups the following time. Did you know that you can layer NXT wax with No 26? You should try it. Gives better depth. Would love to try GC wax on top of NXT but that will have to wait until I finish my 26. I find that just NXT on my car is sufficient to provide protection for some time. In fact I have 2 layers of NXT and it has been 2 months since. Seems to still be there.

However, that could be due to the fact that I use final inspection after every car wash (which is done about once every two weeks).

Hi Nicky, got your clay bar liao? How about the rest of the items?
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heyyyy, that was my first post. cool~~~ tongue.gif
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hi guys, have been browsing through this forum for the past few weeks browsing through the HP information. din realise that you all have a detailing forum here. cool~~.

NXT wax is a polymer sealant.  and d@id, diamond cut is a very aggresive compound. you wouldn't want to use it even twice a year. you would want to use it the first time for a really bad finish, then use something milder like DACP for minor touch ups the following time. Did you know that you can layer NXT wax with No 26? You should try it. Gives better depth. Would love to try GC wax on top of NXT but that will have to wait until I finish my 26. I find that just NXT on my car is sufficient to provide protection for some time. In fact I have 2 layers of NXT and it has been 2 months since. Seems to still be there.

However, that could be due to the fact that I use final inspection after every car wash (which is done about once every two weeks).

Hi Nicky, got your clay bar liao? How about the rest of the items?
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hihi popiah, u also register lowyat.net liow ar? welcome welcome...

hihi, got my quik clay detailing system liow, the claybar wrap with meguairs plastic paper, is this the new batch 1?

maybe sunday baru detailing my car, these days busy like hell cry.gif ...
maybe i just wash, clay and wax, cause my amway polish is not advice to use it to new car paint... they suggest use after 2 months... sweat.gif

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thats the new one.... thumbup.gif easier to handle than the old clay. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(popiah_mmu @ Oct 29 2004, 02:53 PM)
hi guys, have been browsing through this forum for the past few weeks browsing through the HP information. din realise that you all have a detailing forum here. cool~~.

NXT wax is a polymer sealant.  and d@id, diamond cut is a very aggresive compound. you wouldn't want to use it even twice a year. you would want to use it the first time for a really bad finish, then use something milder like DACP for minor touch ups the following time. Did you know that you can layer NXT wax with No 26? You should try it. Gives better depth. Would love to try GC wax on top of NXT but that will have to wait until I finish my 26. I find that just NXT on my car is sufficient to provide protection for some time. In fact I have 2 layers of NXT and it has been 2 months since. Seems to still be there.

However, that could be due to the fact that I use final inspection after every car wash (which is done about once every two weeks).

Hi Nicky, got your clay bar liao? How about the rest of the items?
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popiah , diamond cut is a preparation step. its done before dual action
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thats the new one.... thumbup.gif  easier to handle than the old clay. tongue.gif
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hihihi, already "half detail" my car.... wash, clay and wax...

the clay cun ar, i use half bottle of quick detailer for the 1st time, almost clay anything, car paint, windscreen, lights... some more the class fall under the floor 2 time, need to remove some stone... cry.gif but i still use back, is ok like that? just some very tiny i cant remove, so i fold it over and use again,,, tongue.gif

btw today raining liow... mad.gif
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if stone trap inside the clay ur paint is gone case .

anyway you should not use the quik detailer, take a dispenser, put some meguair shampoo and water . use that to lubricate instead of clay
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QUOTE(d@id @ Nov 2 2004, 11:22 PM)
if stone trap inside the clay ur paint is gone case .

anyway you should not use the quik detailer, take a dispenser, put some meguair shampoo and water . use that to lubricate instead of clay
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shampoo + water to be lubricant? then need to wash the car again,,, wah, really tired kao kao... cry.gif

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nicky, it is safe to reuse the clay, if you are sure that all the things that get stuck on the clay when you dropped it, is removed. some people dun reuse, but I do. But I also make sure that I remove all the contaminants from the clay, so much so to the extent that I remove up to 1/5 of the clay that I dropped. Haha, all the tiredness will be gone when you run your fingers on your car body and feast your eyes on the finish you achieved.

d@id, diamond cut is aggresive. It is in fact, a compound to be used with a rotary only. Usually used if the paint is in real bad condition. If you use it the first time you detailed your car, it should be ok, but not everytime. tongue.gif

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yeah popiah thats why i say its a first step ler .

if your paint ain't got many defects you don't need diamond cut. just start with dual action .

but then up to date everyone asked here is doing their polishing the first time .

and for diamond cut, diff type of paint should use diff type of polishing pad
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wat i notice the pic of acura ,then i remember something abotu honda
the side signal at the side mirror,it is the same as Honda Accord 3.0 V6
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KIT got new polish wax

0-2years
2-4years
4years above


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kit wax cannot pakai one la,

not long lasting and it does stick dirts
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understood d@id. i misunderstood u there. tongue.gif

anyway vexus, polish based on age of car? I think it works on the principle of how badly oxidized and how badly swirled the surface is. Meaning the wax for 4 years and above is the most abrasive. Always best to start with the least abrasive polish that gets the job done. That day you havge less chance of destroying the paint.
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unless your a professional and you know when to machine and when to stop.
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just want to know.. where can bring my car for detailing?? PJ/KJ/Subang area
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hhm okok.. will go there when i get my new car :thumb:
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noob here first time clean engine. please comment
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took about 2 hours to finish it, with some basic tools, an old tooth brush, WD40, rag cloth. basically spray the WD40 on a piece of rag cloth then rub it on the surface and lightly scrub it. once a while use tooth brush to clean hard to reach areas.

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took about 2 hours to finish it, with some basic tools, an old tooth brush, WD40, rag cloth. basically spray the WD40 on a piece of rag cloth then rub it on the surface and lightly scrub it. once a while use tooth brush to clean hard to reach areas.
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hihihi... i was thinking using WD40 cleaning my engine bay also, but i scare to do so cause the WD40 is flammable and i scare later i use too much and blow my engine when i start it...

hahaha... sounds kiddy... me small boy only, scare scare le... laugh.gif
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ermmm i would advice not to spray that thing directly into the engine bay. spray it on a cloth. finish scrub already, if you want take another rag cloth and wipe it again la. no big deal, i do already start car also no problem.
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praetor . remember my engine bay ?? clean ?? tongue.gif

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there is nothing much you can tune out of any bmw 3 series, given its a 325 , 320 or even a 330 , its low powered. the only solution is to add a turbo.
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ahaha d@id your one no need to say la, you got the gear and gadjet and experience, i only beginner la so experiment with basic stuff first tongue.gif
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i main pancut saja itu air at engine bay , haha , just need experience and know where you can't shoot the water :>


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Read the first few of this reply, it's great. o.O b

Bookmark this page to read next day. =D Time to sleep

*No wonder people said wax is better than shine.*
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Hi all,

Sent my car for grooming using MG product, after a week, apply MG Gold Class Wax at home. laugh.gif
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dude, you got lemon peel on your paint, ask the person to detail for u to remove it la

and by the way dude, ask someone to stand infront of the bonnet and take the pic of the bonnet la. if not how to compare.

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dude, you got lemon peel on your paint, ask the person to detail for u to remove it la

and by the way dude, ask someone to stand infront of the bonnet and take the pic of the bonnet la. if not how to compare.
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what is lemon peel on paint? sorry, i am new....
i feel that toyota original paint work is poor... if compare to honda or nissan...
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take a lemon , and see how the structure of the skin looks like.

thats what i meant . u will see the exact same thing, lemon peel happens in either the paint stage or the clear coat stage, if it happens on the clear coat stage then your lucky. you can ask them to SAND it off with sandpaper then repolish . but i think keep it first and do it next year since you just paid for it.
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hrmm

take a lemon , and see how the structure of the skin looks like.

thats what i meant . u will see the exact same thing, lemon peel happens in either the paint stage or the clear coat stage, if it happens on the clear coat stage then your lucky. you can ask them to SAND it off with sandpaper then repolish . but i think keep it first and do it next year since you just paid for it.
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thanks. i think i got what you mean.
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an effect without lemon peel for example is this

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nope

wa DIY that effect.

with my friends of course.


end of this week got sky blue silver based paint to detail . lets see the outcome also.

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It's been a while since I visited this thread. smile.gif Anyway... cry.gif cry.gif someone dinged the passenger side of my car with small dents while opening their door!!! Bastards!! To all you car drivers out there... please do pay attention when you open your car door. Sheesh.... vmad.gif

Anyway, I can get it fixed but I'll leave it for now since it's very minor but looks like it's time to do some major car washing and polishing/waxing again. smile.gif Share some pictures guys after you get your car that shine!! smile.gif


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yo d@id. what product to be used to shine the headlamp cover? wanna make it crystal clear...
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i don't get what you mean , but i use meguair's plastix
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of course

another good brand is zainol . zainol has the best mist and wipe detailer . its better then meguiar's quik detailer but others are comparable and some not as good as meguiars.
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Did you mean Zymol? I'm using Zymol for my car, Subaru Legacy GT-B Touring Wagon. So far, I think they make the best car care products. thumbup.gif

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wah d@id you got a degree in car detailing izzit????

hehe just go apply another layer of paint protection system....now shine like hell.....tomolo going to wax....
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Did you mean Zymol? I'm using Zymol for my car, Subaru Legacy GT-B Touring Wagon. So far, I think they make the best car care products.  thumbup.gif

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i mean zainol

sorry for the comment but zymol is nothing other then a useless brand. they originated from swissol.

Swissol is a hand made wax. Its a family formula, one day the owner's son married his current wife, and his wife decided to make a mass production and marketing for swissol , too bad the formula cannot be mass produced and the wife don't know it when she and the husband migrated to usa and start this brand called zymol , the waxes produce all suffer from a "basi" problem. no doubt after basi its still having 80% of swissol's result , then someone from malaysia brought it in to sell , too bad, all become basi and he had got a few puluh ribu stucked in those products until one day , one fella came and look for him and wanted all the products @ a price, he told them they has some decoloration on it already but the guy say he don't midn , he is buying it to present it to someone, so the guy sold everything to the other guy. The guy who bought over all the wax is now the company known as Carnuba Autospa.

Not long ago "last year if i am not mistaken", meguairs people challenged carnuba autospa"which only provide waxing job at that moment" to compare their products cause meguairs malaysia people wanted to push meguair polishing product to them , they choose a car bonnet and they start doing what they need too . supprisingly , the best zymol wax which cost a few thousand can only stay on par with meguair's 3 Step Polishing + No 16 Wax. Then they realise that meguair's part has no swirl mark while their do. that is why carnuba autospa is offering polishing with meguair 3 step now as well.
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Theese are what i do to my car nowadays

i no longer fancy machine jobs unless the surface is real bad.

I prepare the surface with Klasse AIO
Then i seal the surface with Klasse SG "10 layers over some time"
Then i whack on Meguairs No 16 "but its carnuba so it tends to attract dust"

NEVERMIND

then i get Zainol Z6 "its a spray on detailer that has anti static characteristic, after applying layer to it , whola , like charm and less dust on the car, and everytime i wash my car i just apply another layer of z6.


"IF THE SURFACE IS BAD"
3m 1500 grit machine sand paper x 1 pack
Bosch sanding machine

Okay i will sand the whole car

Then i will use the 3m rubbing compound to get back clear coat effect "but its still blur"
Then i will use Meguair's Diamond Cut to prepare the surface Followed by Dual action and Swirl Free Polish.

I am still not good enough in the machining part, but i can get results on my own car though , so far still practising :>
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labor cost in Overseas is much higher compared to our local malaysia.
Doing the polishing/waxing yourself definitely saves lots of dough. However, the parts and accessories are cheap.

I used to do oil changed, tinting by myself in US. But in M'sia, couldn't care less haha.
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can someone teach me how to use meguairs clay bar effectively?any way to lubricate the clay besides quik detailer?thanks.. biggrin.gif
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can someone teach me how to use meguairs clay bar effectively?any way to lubricate the clay besides quik detailer?thanks.. biggrin.gif
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I almost bought that today! smile.gif But went for another brand. Tleilaxu, you can use a mixture of car wash liquid and water as a lubricant as well if you do not want to use the quick detailer. I had used zaino's clay bar and also other brands. For me it's a waste to use the quick detailer as a lubricant. I am sure there will be people that will differ from my opinion but basically you want something that you can glide the clay bar over the paint without harming the paint. I am quoting what I wrote on the first post on claying. Hope it helps.

Step 2: Clay
After washing off all the dishwashing liquid, I start the claying process. You do not have to dry your car first. Prepare a spray bottle that contain water/car wash liquid to use as lubricant. Claying is easy but you have to be careful or you will end up scratching your paint. Why clay? The clay as your rub over the paint of your car will pick up any additional grime/dirt/tar/bird droppings/etc from the paint. Your local car parts store should have this.

Here's how you do it. Spray an area with the water/car wash liquid mixture. Kneed a small piece of clay (that you can hold comfortably with your fingers and not drop it) and rub it over the sprayed area. For the top area of the car, use a front/back motion and for the side area of the car, use an up/down motion. Rub over the same area until you feel it going over the paint smoothly. Spray more lubricant if needed. Remember to kneed the clay after so many passes as you do not want the stuff that it picks up to scratch other paint area that you are claying. If you happen to drop it on the floor, THROW it AWAY. Do not try to use it again. It will now have dirt stuck to it from the floor and you will end up scratching your car. It's not worth trying to save a few bucks over your $$$ car. I went over every inch of the paint that I can get to with the clay.


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is meguairs colorx polish good ahh? i found only tis at 1-utama.
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Just wanna share my car. Its for sale though. This is my BABY biggrin.gif

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my friend has one... actualy it belongs to his dad lar... blue colour one.. can be spotted around ipoh (he ipoh guy, me too) and cameron (he alwiz lepak at cameron, tak tau do what there - got 2nd wife kua)... lolz...

anyway, nice ride u have there...
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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Apr 12 2005, 04:55 PM)
my friend has one... actualy it belongs to his dad lar... blue colour one.. can be spotted around ipoh (he ipoh guy, me too) and cameron (he alwiz lepak at cameron, tak tau do what there - got 2nd wife kua)... lolz...

anyway, nice ride u have there...
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Wax Marks..

Hi guys,

I just spent quite a couple of hours washing my car clean and after leaving the car under the sun to dry, I applied a layer of wax using the provided sponge in circular motion throughout the body of my car. After that, I used a chamois and started wiping the wax (as per instructions on the wax's can)..

After completely wiped off the layer of wax, I noticed the wax marks that stays on the body of my car. No matter how hard i wipe/rub them also they won't come off..

is this normal??? will the layer of wax slowly blend in after a few washes?

any ideas? thanks.
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bro.....actually you shoulnt wax your car under sun....ususally people wash and wax under shaddy places....because the sun light will damage the paint......jus my 2cents smile.gif
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Jackie Leong,

I think you should read the instructions to the wax/polish that you are using. Always follow instructions for best results. All products that I have used always advise users to wax/polish in a cool dry place.


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RedBox,

I'm using the products from Waxco. Didn't really noticed the product having such instructions of where I should wax/polish my car. Anyhow, thanks for the advice. I'll be shopping for some new products to re-detail my car all over again.

Btw, any ideas how I can remove scratches from my paint? My pet dog jumped on my driver's side door and made scratches on my door.. It's kinda noticeable, well what do you expect from them German Shepherd sad.gif

Oh yeah, how much does a rotary buffer machine costs?
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I use Meguiars ScratchX for minor scratches and it works pretty well. Not sure if it will work as well for deeper scratches. When I say minor, I mean very light and thin scratches. I imagine the scratches from your pet will not be too deep so try that and see.

If it is deeper, you may have to search for filler products that will require you to fill, sand and then polish it. This tend to be more elaborate than the regular scratch removal type cream. You can find a lot of information on how to do it on the Internet.

Not sure about the price of that in M'sia. Hopefully someone will be able to answer you. In my opinion, doing it by hand is still the best and you tend to waste a lot of wax/polish using a rotary buffing machine. smile.gif


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I have a black car and I notice there are swirl marks on the hood. Can these be removed by waxing again? My car is only 3 weeks old sad.gif I am lazy to wax by hand. Is CGC in penang PISA any good?
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I have a bottle of Armorall Wash & Wax. Is it good enough for regular washing?
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boonhong,
same problem.. i spent 6 hours, wash, polish (1layer), hose with water n wipe off with cloth, wax (1 layer), hose with water n wipe off with cloth.. still fine scratches are there.. =/
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Really? That s**ks sad.gif I think it's from the first waxing that was given to our cars
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Not really, sometimes those tiny lil dust/dirt that gets stuck in the cloth you use to clean your car and be the cause to those fine scratches.. although my car came with wax marks dry.gif
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QUOTE(Jackie Leong @ Jun 21 2005, 04:27 PM)
boonhong,
same problem.. i spent 6 hours, wash, polish (1layer), hose with water n wipe off with cloth, wax (1 layer), hose with water n wipe off with cloth.. still fine scratches are there.. =/
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There is no way that you can eliminate the find scratches. Unless, you put ya car at home for showcase most of the time and don't wash often. Even though if u send to car care centre and ask for sanding service, after a few washes the scratches will appear back. So, getting a fine scratchless surface while you use your car often, park outside, wash often...then this scratchless dream is just another dream. Just my 20cent
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QUOTE(lonewolf @ Jun 22 2005, 10:51 AM)
There is no way that you can eliminate the find scratches. Unless, you put ya car at home for showcase most of the time and don't wash often. Even though if u send to car care centre and ask for sanding service, after a few washes the scratches will appear back. So, getting a fine scratchless surface while you use your car often, park outside, wash often...then this scratchless dream is just another dream. Just my 20cent
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yeah i know about that, which is also why after polishing/waxing job on my own.. i'll just leave it as there's nothing much i can do about them..
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You can minimize by being extremely careful. Use high quality cloth like microfiber for wiping on the paint. Use products that will reduce the swirls. The ones that I used as posted on the first post will reduce the swirls.

If you clay, always kneed the clay constantly to prevent builtup on one surface as you are cleaning. Never, never reuse a cloth/clay/wiping material that you drop on the floor. Just put it aside and use a new one.

But I agree, it is very hard to prevent. sad.gif


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i use turtle wax for polishing... izzit good?
well my car seems damm smooth and nice to touch but after 1wash no more feeling cry.gif but water still does not stick la which i think it's a good thing....

is there anything i can make is feel smooth even after washing? coz i just love touching my car wub.gif
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where to buy special sheepskin wash mitts? as u said in the 1st page for washing the car.... i mean where to buy it in malaysia since i'm here smile.gif
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waaaaa... cry.gif no one here? cry.gif
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where to buy special sheepskin wash mitts? as u said in the 1st page for washing the car.... i mean where to buy it in malaysia since i'm here smile.gif
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Got my car polished and waxed in CGC Penang last Saturday. Great workmanship. Very happy with the results biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(boonhoong @ Jul 18 2005, 03:01 PM)
Got my car polished and waxed in CGC Penang last Saturday. Great workmanship. Very happy with the results biggrin.gif
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they use hand or mechine? what brand or polish they use smile.gif care to share? notworthy.gif
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They used a buffing machine to polish, and hand to wax. Everything inluding, shampoo, polishing compound and wax are from Meguiars. Well worth it... Now it's very difficult to see anymore swirl marks on my black CT under the sun thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(boonhoong @ Jul 20 2005, 02:47 PM)
They used a buffing machine to polish, and hand to wax. Everything inluding, shampoo, polishing compound and wax are from Meguiars. Well worth it... Now it's very difficult to see anymore swirl marks on my black CT under the sun thumbup.gif
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wow that brand??? drool.gif how much did u spend all together?
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RM220. And since this is something you only need to do about once a year, it's not that painful wink.gif
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i use turtle wax for polishing... izzit good? 
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its quite good,if im not mistaken its wax spray is voted no.1 in the us. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(boonhoong @ Jul 20 2005, 02:47 PM)
They used a buffing machine to polish, and hand to wax. Everything inluding, shampoo, polishing compound and wax are from Meguiars. Well worth it... Now it's very difficult to see anymore swirl marks on my black CT under the sun thumbup.gif
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no wonder its rm220,usin meguiars tongue.gif
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its quite good,if im not mistaken its wax spray is voted no.1 in the us. sweat.gif
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I'm using Turtle product too....
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Anyone know what's good to use for polishing the sports rims and removing scratches on the rims?
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where to buy special sheepskin wash mitts? as u said in the 1st page for washing the car.... i mean where to buy it in malaysia since i'm here smile.gif
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Hope you have found a place to buy it in malaysia. smile.gif If not, if you truly want, I guess I can try to help you buy one and ship it to you. Not sure how much the shipping will be but I think it will cost quite a bit. smile.gif


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Not sure if any of you do this but I have started buying only microfiber cloth for my washing/polishing needs. I stopped using cotton pad applicator as I find that it is easier to polish using microfiber where the coverage is more even. After using, I will then wash and dry them but will only use it for wiping non-easily scratch interior. After using it on interior, I throw them away.

For washing/polishing the next time, I will get new microfiber cloths which is always softer and smoother while new. It is hard to get a used cloth to be as soft as new ones.


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Redbox, u driving an Acura TSX?

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QUOTE(RedBox @ Aug 3 2005, 01:24 PM)
Not sure if any of you do this but I have started buying only microfiber cloth for my washing/polishing needs. I stopped using cotton pad applicator as I find that it is easier to polish using microfiber where the coverage is more even. After using, I will then wash and dry them but will only use it for wiping non-easily scratch interior. After using it on interior, I throw them away.

For washing/polishing the next time, I will get new microfiber cloths which is always softer and smoother while new. It is hard to get a used cloth to be as soft as new ones.
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how much u buy the microfiber cloth? i hope i can find it in malaysia coz the other cloth i tried to find everywhere but still can find it... got any pics bout ur cloth?


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how much u buy the microfiber cloth? i hope i can find it in malaysia coz the other cloth i tried to find everywhere but still can find it...  got any pics bout ur cloth?
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QUOTE(peelfresh @ Aug 15 2005, 03:39 AM)
how much u buy the microfiber cloth? i hope i can find it in malaysia coz the other cloth i tried to find everywhere but still can find it...  got any pics bout ur cloth?
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go to AEC hardward store or eneor or jaya jusco you can get microfibre.
RM4-RM40++

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i use the cheap one RM6.50 for 2 pieces laugh.gif
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i'm sure you mean ACE hardware & eneos is it ? smile.gif
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QUOTE(RedBox @ Aug 17 2005, 12:57 PM)
I get them at local automotive shop where I am at currently. Not sure about Malaysia, sorry. You can read this for more information. It has pictures too so you can get an idea.
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thanks for the link.... well i guess i can find it in enoes or ACE here in malaysia...

so basicly use this cloth to wash and polish also izzit? then after 2 or 3 times using it, buy new one? smile.gif
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only 2, 3 times? like that if you buy RM40 type, bankcrupt one smile.gif
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QUOTE(peelfresh @ Aug 22 2005, 03:14 AM)
so basicly use this cloth to wash and polish also izzit?  then after 2 or 3 times using it, buy new one? smile.gif
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Depends on the cloth and your preference I supposed. I just find that even with washing you don't get the smoothness and silkyness like a new one.

I found a type of suede microfiber that I will try out this weekend if possible (and if it doesn't rain smile.gif ) to see how well it works.


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suede microfiber? wow i never heard of that b4 sweat.gif there sure alot of cloth out there that i dunno... please do tell the result kay? thumbup.gif
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very gd info here, thanks guys...
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suede microfiber? wow i never heard of that b4 sweat.gif there sure alot of cloth out there that i dunno... please do tell the result kay? thumbup.gif
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First time I have seen it too. smile.gif About RM17 for 3 pieces. Feels better than my shower towel.. LOL


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First time I have seen it too. smile.gif About RM17 for 3 pieces. Feels better than my shower towel.. LOL
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RM 17 for 3? that's a good deal... are there any in malaysia i wonder wink.gif

anyway u have the pic of the cloth?
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was just wondering wat producst can i use for my 25 year old daihatsu charmant...cos im gonna repaint my car to a pearl blue color...n i wanna maintain the paint job.....pls advice...n also is there anything better then rainx??
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was just wondering wat producst can i use for my 25 year old daihatsu charmant...cos im gonna repaint my car to a pearl blue color...n i wanna maintain the paint job.....pls advice...n also is there anything better then rainx??
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QUOTE(peelfresh @ Sep 1 2005, 05:21 AM)
RM 17 for 3? that's a good deal... are there any in malaysia i wonder wink.gif 

anyway u have the pic of the cloth?
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I have not had a chance to use it yet. Been too busy to take time out to wash my car. Here are pictures of the suede microfiber.

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QUOTE(vickyrao @ Sep 10 2005, 04:50 PM)
was just wondering wat producst can i use for my 25 year old daihatsu charmant...cos im gonna repaint my car to a pearl blue color...n i wanna maintain the paint job.....pls advice...n also is there anything better then rainx??
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Hmm.. I would think if the paint job is done and cured properly, you should be able to use normal products and I mean normal polishing products of your choice. You shouldn't have to use anything special.


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thanks for the pics notworthy.gif i will try search for it at stores in malaysia biggrin.gif
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lol,the cloth is everywhere.can find at the petrol station
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lol,the cloth is everywhere.can find at the petrol station
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cloth is everywhere..but try to get the microfibre cloth that there is no stiching on the edge..coz the edge can cause swirls ...try Ace Hardware..saw alot of microfiber cloth for oni RM5.90
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Some part of the trunk got some oxidation abit but not 'chalky' yet. Is it necassary to use the sanding technique (1500 grit) then polish it?
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Some part of the trunk got some oxidation abit but not 'chalky' yet. Is it necassary to use the sanding technique (1500 grit) then polish it?
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no need to sand..just get some polish will do..if the polish doesn't work then only sand. Sanding is use if last resort only..
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QUOTE(lonewolf @ Sep 12 2005, 11:22 AM)
cloth is everywhere..but try to get the microfibre cloth that there is no stiching on the edge..coz the edge can cause swirls ...try Ace Hardware..saw alot of microfiber cloth for oni RM5.90
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Well first time I have came across it. smile.gif Lonewolf if right, in a haste to get them, I did not look to see if I can find other types that does not have stitches around the edge. Will have to fold them properly when I use them to avoid swirl. smile.gif


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QUOTE(lonewolf @ Sep 12 2005, 01:19 PM)
no need to sand..just get some polish will do..if the polish doesn't work then only sand. Sanding is use if last resort only..
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been trying using polish but still cannot shine like other parts. or maybe i need to polish a little bit longer like 30-45 minutes at the trunk surface till its hot? I'm using machine one. Dun have the meguiars polish (except, polymer sealant, show car glaze). i use polyglaze.

i sand using 1500 grit to get rid some minor scratch at bumper and polish it and it works. just not sure really need to sand the whole trunk or not just by oxidation
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been trying using polish but still cannot shine like other parts. or maybe i need to polish a little bit longer like 30-45 minutes at the trunk surface till its hot? I'm using machine one. Dun have the meguiars polish (except, polymer sealant, show car glaze). i use polyglaze.

i sand using 1500 grit to get rid some minor scratch at bumper and polish it and it works. just not sure really need to sand the whole trunk or not just by oxidation
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Whoa!!! Hang on there! Polish till it's hot, you mean like run the rotary polishing machine over the same spot for a long time. Ack! Don't do it.

I think it's time you have to face that maybe the paint in that area has been damaged enough hence waxing/polishing is not able to restore its shine anymore. Seeing your description, either try some other product or it may be time to look into some type of paint restoration process.


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QUOTE(RedBox @ Sep 13 2005, 12:53 AM)
Whoa!!! Hang on there! Polish till it's hot, you mean like run the rotary polishing machine over the same spot for a long time. Ack! Don't do it.

I think it's time you have to face that maybe the paint in that area has been damaged enough hence waxing/polishing is not able to restore its shine anymore. Seeing your description, either try some other product or it may be time to look into some type of paint restoration process.
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or maybe i need to sand it? it just not as shine like other parts. and not even 'chalky' yet. or maybe not correct technique?
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or maybe i need to sand it? it just not as shine like other parts. and not even 'chalky' yet. or maybe not correct technique?
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I don't really know as I am not an expert on this. I would think your first step will be to go to an automotive paint shop and get their opinion. Once you have that, you can maybe look up information on the internet and see what other options you have.

Have you tried other products to see if it will help?

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QUOTE(eddyann @ Sep 12 2005, 02:51 PM)
been trying using polish but still cannot shine like other parts. or maybe i need to polish a little bit longer like 30-45 minutes at the trunk surface till its hot? I'm using machine one. Dun have the meguiars polish (except, polymer sealant, show car glaze). i use polyglaze.

i sand using 1500 grit to get rid some minor scratch at bumper and polish it and it works. just not sure really need to sand the whole trunk or not just by oxidation
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wah..u really daring do sanding ya self. blink.gif blink.gif . U use what to polish?..polymer sealent?..show car glaze?...those 2 product is not mean for polishing lar.

you did stated that ya truck got oxidation..get ColorX then. that should solve the problem

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Meguiars Show Car actually is a polishing substance but not at early stage. at first i sand with 1500 sand paper, then use the polyglaze cut and polish. after that using polyglaze diamond finish, then using the show car. to protect i'm using polymer sealant and carnauba wax.

colorX is from turtle wax ar?

yes, i'm sanding myself to remove some scratch on bumper. but dont sand it too much or otherwise cat will tanggal as most bumper the paint is not that thick compare to the body/fender parts

currently sanding using my barehand only without the sanding machine. so far so good. but still worry to sand the whole trunk...trunk but not truck!

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wats the diff between wax n polish?
and wats the pros n cons?

and is there any tuning guide here like which to upgrade first, which not,wat to buy, wats not to buy?

thx

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wats the diff between wax n polish?
and wats the pros n cons?

and is there any tuning guide here like which to upgrade first, which not,wat to buy, wats not to buy?

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hey now days always rain, so washing the car too often is a waste of time rite?
but then the car get even dirty after a long week, the thing is while scrubing the car with a cloth, the amout of dirt will surely make your car get a minor scratch. Am i rite?

so my question is how to prevent from it to get a minor scratch and what type of cloth is the best to deal with this kind a prob?

and one more thing, after raining rite if u don't wash ur car it will leave a mark which if u let it be for a long time it will turn into stain. Washing is the only solution for it i think, therefore i need you guys to tell me the type of cloth which can solve the 1st prob and this prob of mine smile.gif

currently i'm using this orange cloth which absorb the water. Do u think this cloth is the best to prevent these minor scratch?

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Use a good wash mitt like the one in the picture below. Available at ENEOS 1 Utama for about RM50.00. A bit pricey but worth it and lasts a long time too. Use a mitt as it holds a lot of soapy water and is very gentle to your paint. Sponges, while they hold just as much if not more water, don't have much 'give' in them. Meaning that if you pick up a tiny stone it won't recess into the sponge like it would with a mitt and therefore it scratches your paint surface. It is also more likely that you could drop a sponge, as it is not attached like the mitt to your hand. So if and when u do drop the sponge you have to rinse it free from any debris. (as we all know this can happen a number of times when you wash your car) One feature we love with the Mitt is the way you can stick your hose into the open end of the mitt, turn it on and as the water streams out quickly, it thoroughly cleans the mitt. This is great for when you have finished and in case you somehow drop the mitt.

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Use the "Two-Bucket Method" to wash the car. One bucket with soapy water while another bucket with just plain water. Start washing the car and once you have finished a panel, submerge the mitt into the pure water bucket and rinse it by shaking it vigorously before placing it back into the wash bucket. Gather as much water and suds as your mitt can carry, then reapply to the next panel. Repeat this process, washing every panel on the car. This way any sand, grit and road grime will fall into the bucket with the clear water and you can be assured that the soapy water is clean before you put in on your car.

There is no real gimmick, you just minimise the chances of washing your car with contaminated water/ wash. It dramatically minimises your chances of accidentally picking up some debris from one part of the car and rubbing it all over the rest.

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Use a good wash mitt like the one in the picture below. Available at ENEOS 1 Utama for about RM50.00. A bit pricey but worth it and lasts a long time too. Use a mitt as it holds a lot of soapy water and is very gentle to your paint. Sponges, while they hold just as much if not more water, don't have much 'give' in them. Meaning that if you pick up a tiny stone it won't recess into the sponge like it would with a mitt and therefore it scratches your paint surface. It is also more likely that you could drop a sponge, as it is not attached like the mitt to your hand. So if and when u do drop the sponge you have to rinse it free from any debris. (as we all know this can happen a number of times when you wash your car) One feature we love with the Mitt is the way you can stick your hose into the open end of the mitt, turn it on and as the water streams out quickly, it thoroughly cleans the mitt. This is great for when you have finished and in case you somehow drop the mitt.

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Use the "Two-Bucket Method" to wash the car. One bucket with soapy water while another bucket with just plain water.  Start washing the car and once you have finished a panel, submerge the mitt into the pure water bucket and rinse it by shaking it vigorously before placing it back into the wash bucket. Gather as much water and suds as your mitt can carry, then reapply to the next panel. Repeat this process, washing every panel on the car.  This way any sand, grit and road grime will fall into the bucket with the clear water and you can be assured that the soapy water is clean before you put in on your car. 

There is no real gimmick, you just minimise the chances of washing your car with contaminated water/ wash.  It dramatically minimises your chances of accidentally picking up some debris from one part of the car and rubbing it all over the rest.
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wow, thanks man!! even though it's RM 50 but it's worth it smile.gif the brand also drool.gif
i'll buy it soon but not to soon la, coz $$$ hhehehe biggrin.gif

after i try it i'll tell you what the result kay?
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I have a NXT TechWax for RM80 ... very very good wax n great results ... prep ur paint ... wax it ...


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Hello to everybody....

First of all, I want to apologies I'm not a car's devotion, however I need to know something about car.

I want to know about Mitsubushi FTO....
1) As I know, the last model of FTO was released at 2004. Am I right? Currently the said car is still under production?
2) How much was FTO cost in 2004 and 2005?
3) As I know FTO have 1600cc and 2000cc, does the car has a high consumption of petrol? Do the higher cc engine (of a car) need higher consumption of petrol?
4) Does the maintenance fee high for FTO?
5) Does second hand FTO reliable?

Thank you.

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anyway..one more advice.

if your objective is to get swirl free body paint. then don't drive your car out and leave it under shade for the rest of your life. I read that there are alot of detailers almost talking about swirl free after doing polishing and so on. how they get the swirl free is becoz they do sanding..and most of the time you will get superb result..but do remember..your lacquer coat is thinner now..and the worse thing..next 2 weeks down the road..the swirl is back as u drive the car along and washing it from time to time. even if u are using the best mitts and best microfiber cloth in the world..the swirl will come back in no time. although you can minimize the swirl by using those clothes..the swirl will be there no matter what you do..unless is a show car that u don't drive and always under shade

my point is. to get a swirl free on a daily driven car or even weekly car is a waste. in out climate..protection is more important than getting swirl free.
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hi. wat's the swirl means?

btw, i saw this turtlewax color back. is it good? do i have to wax after using it?
and i cant find clay product in kch here. anyone knows? do i really need to clay it, if using colorback?

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pls advise. what's the steps need to be taken, if i skipped clay then how?
thanks! cos wanna prepare car for CNY mah. notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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Basically, claying is to prep and clean ur car surface only, it DOESNT protect your paint. Eg: Feel ur car surface (wif ur fingers) after a wash, if u feel its not smooth den u need to clay .. after a clay session ur paints feels as smooth as a babies arse tongue.gif no joke tongue.gif

If you wan ur polish as well as wax to work well, claying and proper surface pred shud not be forsaken ...

Wat you have there is juz a polish ... in fact u shud get Meg's ColorX which works even better .. IMHO

After u wash and clay ur car, you will polish and then u will wax it. There are so many brands and types of wax available juz oni how u wan ur ca to b like lo ...
But its very true tat cheap thing no good n good thing no cheap ... But you will be satisfied wif the results of products like Meguairs or AutoGlym or Zaino ... http://www.autopia-carcare.com/meg-g-12718.html (im letting go only 1 bottle cheaper den market price, pm if interested, will guide u thru oso)

I would say long term its a good investment la ... so its up to the consumers to think of the feasibilities then wink.gif

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hi. wat's the swirl means?

btw, i saw this turtlewax color back. is it good? do i have to wax after using it?
and i cant find clay product in kch here. anyone knows? do i really need to clay it, if using colorback?

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pls advise. what's the steps need to be taken, if i skipped clay then how?
thanks! cos wanna prepare car for CNY mah.  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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Swirl means the light minor circular scratches that you see when you look at the paint on your car against the sun light.

If you truly want to prepare your paint surface for the products you are using, my answer will be yes, you need to clay your car. It makes a hell of a difference and you will be able to feel the difference once you clay your car.

[edit] And nycs82 is not joking. It feels even smoother than babies backside!


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Swirl means the light minor circular scratches that you see when you look at the paint on your car against the sun light.

If you truly want to prepare your paint surface for the products you are using, my answer will be yes, you need to clay your car. It makes a hell of a difference and you will be able to feel the difference once you clay your car.

[edit] And nycs82 is not joking. It feels even smoother than babies backside!
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i just got swirls on my car boot cos of the guys at the accessory shop recommended me a wrong product. my car is pearl white. i bought a japanese product called soft 99 wax. they hv 2 types. one in blue can & the other is the stainless steel can. both r meant for different kind of paint. i took the guy's words & bought the blue one as recommended by him. so i applied it on my car boot just to test it. after tht, i realise i got swirls all over the boot. i only realise the instructiion said to use only on solid paints & not on metallic paints. but too late liau.....
the following day, i went to check out the stainless steel can & the instructions says for metallic & pearl paints & safe for use, won't harm paint. i bought it & tried removing the swirls but can't.
really kek sim cos my car not even a mth old. now i dun even dare to wax my car. i even bought 2 soft 99 stainless steel cans.....sigh.
Any idea how to remove the swirls? it's really bad when u look at an angle under bright light.
i wana DIY car detailing but now just to afraid my hurt the paint work again.
i just realise sponge is not good for car wash after reading this thread.
hope bros here can build up my confidence again.
tq in advance for any kind advice & guidance.
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Swirl means the light minor circular scratches that you see when you look at the paint on your car against the sun light.

If you truly want to prepare your paint surface for the products you are using, my answer will be yes, you need to clay your car. It makes a hell of a difference and you will be able to feel the difference once you clay your car.

[edit] And nycs82 is not joking. It feels even smoother than babies backside!
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THanks. But i cant seem to find any clay here at my place. crap.
the product i shown is polish (turtlewax colorback) right? i need too wax after applying this product?

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Guys, how often should I wax my car for optimum protection? Just wanna ask you guys opinion wink.gif
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2-3 layers every 2-3 months .... depending on type of wax used and the nature of the product ... depends oso ur environment eg where u park ur car, ur driving environment etc

eg: NXT Tech Wax ... 2-3 months tahan ... with weekly washes n a quick detailing spray after each wash to boost wax ...
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THanks. But i cant seem to find any clay here at my place. crap.
the product i shown is polish (turtlewax colorback) right? i need too wax after applying this product?
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everytime u polish u paint goes a wee thinner ... so to protect it wax is needed ... so choose a good 1 ... durable yet gloossy and sexyyy ...

BTW ... i have a new bottle of NXT TechWax for sale ... letting go cheaper den market price .. PM me tongue.gif

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QUOTE(satigue @ Jan 5 2006, 07:38 PM)
i just got swirls on my car boot cos of the guys at the accessory shop recommended  me a wrong product. my car is pearl white. i bought a japanese product called soft 99 wax. they hv 2 types. one in blue can & the other is the stainless steel can. both r meant for different kind of paint. i took the guy's words & bought the blue one as recommended by him. so i applied it on my car boot just to test it. after tht, i realise i got swirls all over the boot. i only realise the instructiion said to use only on solid paints & not on metallic paints. but too late liau.....
the following day, i went to check out the stainless steel can & the instructions says for metallic & pearl paints & safe for use, won't harm paint. i bought it & tried removing the swirls but can't.
really kek sim cos my car not even a mth old. now i dun even dare to wax my car. i even bought 2 soft 99 stainless steel cans.....sigh.
Any idea how to remove the swirls? it's really bad when u look at an angle under bright light.
i wana DIY car detailing but now just to afraid my hurt the paint work again.
i just realise sponge is not good for car wash after reading this thread.
hope bros here can build up my confidence again.
tq in advance for any kind advice & guidance.
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swirls mark depends how depth is the mark...go to Ace Hardware and get ya self ScratchX...and a bottle of NXT wax...that should be sufficient enuff...so you have learn your lesson..do not trust any sales man..

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try asking those who have dark coloured car tongue.gif .. esp black ... lagi swirl ovious

Anyhoot, Dude ... items to get ...

1. ScratchX(S.X) ... mild polish to remove swirls n scracthes
2. ColorX(C.X) ... restores colors n heals slight swirls
3. NXT TechWax ... Great Wax (saw a fellow forummer selling it cheap)
4. Soft99 Claybar .... surface prep (got 2 types ... 4got wat is wat d)
5. Good MicroFiber cloths (VERY IMPORTANT)
6. Applicator pads, preferable Megs Applicator pads or Even coat applicator pad (if u can get) ...
7. Quick detailer (if u have extra budget)
8. Wash mitt (if u really extra extra budget) but the results is obvious oso la
(above products will last ur at least 2-3 years la)
Remember: Good things no cheap, cheap thing no good tongue.gif ... Esp in detailing tongue.gif

Steps:
Wash -> Clay -> Wash -> Dry -> Polish (S.X) -> buff -> inspect paint -> S.X again(if necessary) buff n again(if necessary) -> buff -> C.X -> buff -> NXT TechWax ->buff -> after 6 hrs -12 hrs -> NXT TechWax 2nd layer -> after 6 hrs -12 hrs -> NXT TechWax 3nd layer -> buff .... -> sit back n go WOW!! shocking.gif wub.gif drool.gif
You ca terus apply 2nd and 3rd layer after u buff off but i prefer to let the wax set lor ... or u mayb can do it after 2-3 hours lor ... if u keep till d next day, a clean fast wash to clear the dust n dirt n ur ready to put a few more layers .. 3 max n mre den tat redundant tongue.gif ... effect same ... still wub.gif
After this u can repeat such work in another 3-6 months .. in the mean time juz normal wash and use a quick detailer to boost ur wax ...

Note: Apply wif applicatior pad, Buff wth MF ... normal towel or cloth = more swirls

Dun send ur car to detailing centers. Nowadays they cant b trusted. They use morning towels!!! shocking.gif ... apart frm the really mahal n well known good ones which charge 500-700 but gila great results. U can do it urself too!!
Do the work urself n sweat it out n savour the moment la!!
I use Meguairs as they are well known for their products and the quality of it in terms of glossy and durability and quality. Zaino is harder to get in Msia. The rest u can get frm Enoes or HomeFix. If u willing to fork out more den can try AutoGlym oso. But I recon NXT as a LSP(last step product) for tat WOW n protection.

BTW, wax doesnt heal n repair swirls n scratches, it oni covers it up ... polish oni can do it .. since ur car new better spend some $$ to jaga the paint so tat can tahan in future ..

NXT Tech Wax info: http://www.autopia-carcare.com/meg-g-12718.html
And of coz other car care info ... have a look lo wink.gif

Here's my baby ...

Before "treatment"
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-7/1054...0580(Small).JPG

After "pampering and sayang n masage n facial" wub.gif thumbup.gif
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-7/1054...0581(Small).JPG

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-7/1054...0612(Small).JPG

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-7/1054...0621(Small).JPG

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-7/1054...0586(Small).JPG

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-7/1054...0627(Small).JPG

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-7/1054...0597(Small).JPG

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-7/1054...0603(Small).JPG

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Thx BlueBanana for the step by step guide! How many hours and $$$ u spent in "pampering" ur ride? Good job! thumbup.gif
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Me oso a newbie detailing freak tongue.gif ... took me at least 3-5 hours for the 1st sessions ... so this shows tat any1 can details wif the right attitude, commitment, love fr the car and of coz d right tools ...

$$$? ... hehehe ... 200-300+ gua ... but enuf to last me 2-3 years wor ... if u go those pro detailing centers 700-800 1 session tongue.gif .. so its worth it lo wink.gif


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Great effort for u bro.. maybe u can charge ppl RM300 for this detailing ma.. can earn some pocket money.. smile.gif I'll be ur 1st customer, cool? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(egiewan @ Jan 5 2006, 11:52 PM)
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personally wax or sealant needs time to set and bond ... eg: NXT Tech Wax is Synthetic Sealent which is diff frm normal conventional caunaba wax ...

Caunaba wax doesnt last as long as sealent ... IMHO la ... but it give tat wet gloosy look ...

So Best is to have at least 2-3 hours of self bonding of the wax wif the car. So the 3 layer those places do is oni visually stunning but durability as well as realiability and protection is ... wel ... try both n c for urself la ... results vary dramatically

do it once a month or every 2-3 months shud b ok ... plus is u have done the correct steps ...
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Great effort for u bro.. maybe u can charge ppl RM300 for this detailing ma.. can earn some pocket money.. smile.gif I'll be ur 1st customer, cool? biggrin.gif
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Y dun u start buying some product and do it urself ... seriously ... ppl do for u hor its not as fun as doing it urself ...

Spend time wif ur car man ... dun juz use it tongue.gif .. pamper her urself drool.gif whistling.gif touch her feel her wax her clay her .... ooooooooooooooooooooo yeahh!!! laugh.gif
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here's a way to start ur tool preparation for making ur ride cooler and let ppl go drool.gif over it

A forumer selling a rather cheap NXT Tech Wax ... i think now the price is RM85 or RM88 ... Meg's gonna naik harga soon i heard ... but how true ... we nvr know ... any1 has news?

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=230250&st=0

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One more thing, does tar remover harm the wax protection? unsure.gif
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Yes, any tar remover will strip off wax. So after you've removed some tar spots, be sure to seal it up with wax again.

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hey, question. how does the so called applicator pad looks like?
sponge?
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hey, question. how does the so called applicator pad looks like?
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oh? thanks. microfibre also can ah.
is it washable? sorry real noob. and cant find the thing here in kch.
ask someone to bring back from KL. but gotta explain to them wat the heck is it. haha...
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Just wana ask. Is the Meguiars NXT Generation Tech Wax safe on a white paint? cos i hv been reading it's only good for dark coloured paints woh.
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any color oso can la ... its good for dark paints ... means white of coz boleh lorrr
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I duno if dis is out of topic, wana ask about tyres...

1) How do we keep and maintain the "blackness" of our tyre?
2) How do we re-blacken(new word tongue.gif ) our tyre after the color has faded?
3) Heard from a friend that cleaning tyres with normal car soap will make the
"blackness" fade off, izit true?

Thx in advance from any car detailing experts... and sorry if i was out of topic blush.gif
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wash using armorall or eagleone tyre and rim cleaner (removes brake dust + dirts), can do with the help of toothbrush. then use tyre shine or leather + tyre polish (armorall) thingy. it will make ur tyres shiny, black and with wet-looks! haha...

however, those tyre shine spray ones wont last that long. better use those wax-like ones. depends on weather condition, if no rain it can last bout 2-3weeks. rainy days ah...max one week lo. haha...

for the fade off thingy, yeah. but after washing, usually i recoat the tyres with tyre shine stuff. so it is still black and shine! hehe...
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thanks for the feedback. i got another question. if u really want to let the 1st layer wax settle down for 6-12 hrs, can i use the car in between the settling down period? then only apply 2nd coat after using the car.(assume my car has not kena any rain or water) i m asking cos it's really impossible to wait for 6-12 hrs if u really need to use the car.
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as i said b4 ... no need if u cant ... but best if u can ... 2-3 hours fine oredi wink.gif ... no biggie ... more layer means its have a better shine and a wee longer protection until the next detail smile.gif

so wanna get it frm me? rolleyes.gif
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oic. thanks nycs82. i will try to detail my ride tomorrow. c how the outcome. will post pics here. oh yeah...i just got my Meguiars NXT Generation Tech Wax yesterday only. thanks for the offer. biggrin.gif
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yo all... i heard my friend told me that out there got 1 type of polish call 'mo chang pei' (cantonese) translate to english sound like rub orange skin. do anyone know about this? mind share what it is actually? good or bad? prices? thx
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haha... ^cash^ , orange skin is actually a term for paint surfaces that isn't smooth (eg, park your car under a lighted fluorescent lamp then check the reflection on your paint surface.. if it looks wavy, it'll look like orange skin tongue.gif)

how people get rid of it is usually to give the car a good polishing and waxing job.. sometimes, that includes sanding as well.. i'm not sure how to do it but i know those professional car care centre should be able to get it done wink.gif
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QUOTE(satigue @ Jan 14 2006, 08:48 PM)
oic. thanks nycs82. i will try to detail my ride tomorrow. c how the outcome. will post pics here. oh yeah...i just got my Meguiars NXT Generation Tech Wax yesterday only. thanks for the offer. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Jackie Leong @ Jan 14 2006, 10:21 PM)
haha... ^cash^ , orange skin is actually a term for paint surfaces that isn't smooth (eg, park your car under a lighted fluorescent lamp then check the reflection on your paint surface.. if it looks wavy, it'll look like orange skin tongue.gif)

how people get rid of it is usually to give the car a good polishing and waxing job.. sometimes, that includes sanding as well.. i'm not sure how to do it but i know those professional car care centre should be able to get it done wink.gif
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oic... thx... but do u think i shall do that too? but my car only 3 months old mean still new paint laugh.gif i saw my friend did that dam nice... can see the pearl color so clearly...
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bros,
how to remove soap spot or water spot? yesterday, i was accidently soaped the car busying claying. then after rinsing the car again, the spots seem to be there even though how hard i try washing it away. even wax also can't remove it la....so sad.
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bros,
how to remove soap spot or water spot? yesterday, i was accidently soaped the car busying claying. then after rinsing the car again, the spots seem to be there even though how hard i try washing it away. even wax also can't remove it la....so sad.
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waxing will not removed the water spot..you need something more abbrasive..try ScratchX or Step 2 ..from MG...
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thanks bro. i will get it from eneos tonight. really kek sim after spending whole day detailing my ride but outcome still not impressive. can a white car really get all out from Meguiars NXT Generation Tech Wax? i m really having doubts.
step 2 u mean is the Deep Crystal System Paint Cleaner step 2 izzit?

nycs82, sorry la bro. i ngam ngam happen to go eneos tht day unplanned, so got it from there lo... biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(satigue @ Jan 16 2006, 01:50 PM)
thanks bro. i will get it from eneos tonight. really kek sim after spending whole day detailing my ride but outcome still not impressive. can a white car really get all out from Meguiars NXT Generation Tech Wax? i m really having doubts.
step 2 u mean is the Deep Crystal System Paint Cleaner step 2 izzit?

nycs82, sorry la bro. i ngam ngam happen to go eneos tht day unplanned, so got it from there lo... biggrin.gif
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anyway ... prepare ur paint surface well b4 u wax on NXT as its a LSP ... so if surface not well prepared ... u put wat wax oso not impressive la tongue.gif
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QUOTE(BlueBanana @ Jan 6 2006, 10:35 PM)
try asking those who have dark coloured car tongue.gif .. esp black  ... lagi swirl ovious

Anyhoot, Dude ... items to get ...

1. ScratchX(S.X) ... mild polish to remove swirls n scracthes
2. ColorX(C.X) ... restores colors n heals slight swirls
3. NXT TechWax ... Great Wax (saw a fellow forummer selling it cheap)
4. Soft99 Claybar .... surface prep (got 2 types ... 4got wat is wat d)
5. Good MicroFiber cloths (VERY IMPORTANT)
6. Applicator pads, preferable Megs Applicator pads or Even coat applicator pad (if u can get) ...
7. Quick detailer (if u have extra budget)
8. Wash mitt (if u really extra extra budget) but the results is obvious oso la
(above products will last ur at least 2-3 years la)
Remember: Good things no cheap, cheap thing no good tongue.gif ... Esp in detailing tongue.gif

Steps:
Wash -> Clay -> Wash -> Dry -> Polish (S.X) -> buff -> inspect paint -> S.X again(if necessary) buff n again(if necessary) -> buff -> C.X -> buff -> NXT TechWax ->buff -> after 6 hrs -12 hrs -> NXT TechWax 2nd layer -> after 6 hrs -12 hrs -> NXT TechWax 3nd layer -> buff .... -> sit back n go WOW!!  shocking.gif  wub.gif  drool.gif   
You ca terus apply 2nd and 3rd layer after u buff off but i prefer to let the wax set lor ... or u mayb can do it after 2-3 hours lor ... if u keep till d next day, a clean fast wash to clear the dust n dirt n ur ready to put a few more layers .. 3 max n mre den tat redundant tongue.gif ... effect same ... still  wub.gif
After this u can repeat such work in another 3-6 months .. in the mean time juz normal wash and use a quick detailer to boost ur wax  ...

Note: Apply wif applicatior pad, Buff wth MF ... normal towel or cloth = more swirls

Dun send ur car to detailing centers. Nowadays they cant b trusted. They use morning towels!!!  shocking.gif  ... apart frm the really mahal n well known good ones which charge 500-700 but gila great results. U can do it urself too!!
Do the work urself n sweat it out n savour the moment la!!
I use Meguairs as they are well known for their products and the quality of it in terms of glossy and durability and quality. Zaino is harder to get in Msia. The rest u can get frm Enoes or HomeFix. If u willing to fork out more den can try AutoGlym oso. But I recon NXT as a LSP(last step product) for tat WOW n protection.

BTW, wax doesnt heal n repair swirls n scratches, it oni covers it up ... polish oni can do it .. since ur car new better spend some $$ to jaga the paint so tat can tahan in future ..

NXT Tech Wax info: http://www.autopia-carcare.com/meg-g-12718.html
And of coz other car care info ... have a look lo wink.gif

Here's my baby ...

Before "treatment"
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-7/1054...0580(Small).JPG

After "pampering and sayang n masage n facial"  wub.gif  thumbup.gif
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-7/1054...0581(Small).JPG

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-7/1054...0612(Small).JPG

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-7/1054...0621(Small).JPG

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-7/1054...0586(Small).JPG

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-7/1054...0627(Small).JPG

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-7/1054...0597(Small).JPG

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-7/1054...0603(Small).JPG
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Its 2days paint which has tat shine ... the components inside it ... but its also very hard to jaga compared to cars last time ... d paint i mean tongue.gif ... well ... u pay for a good looking car lo ... car paint nowdays r more vulnerable as should get attention n love frm their owners laugh.gif wub.gif thumbup.gif

ColorX is basically a paint cleaner with some wax component in it ... but its NOT wax ok? .... I would say use the same method to an old junk but juz a bit more passion n work n effort it shud do it wink.gif

U hafta try it to know it ... but remember ... all the steps r important ... frm claying to polishing to cleaning to waxing n waxing ... wink.gif

Dun pay .... we all can be come detailers ... juz need the time wink.gif ....

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Washing your car tips
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Washing and polishing a car is a fairly easy task if care is taken to do the job properly. Here are some suggestions for doing the best job in minimum time with maximum results:

. Choose the right soap for washing the car. Household or laundry detergents are not recommended since some contain harsh abrasives and chemicals that can mar the car's finish. Even dishwashing detergent is not recommended since many contain various chemical additives that can damage car paint. Soap specifically manufactured to wash cars can be purchased at any auto parts store.

. Never wash a car in direct sunlight or while the motor is still hot. (Drive thru washes are not recommended, wait till the engine cools down.)

. Hose any excess dirt from the car exterior. If possible, using a high-pressure sprayer is best. This will help to dislodge stubborn dirt and debris.

. Use a soft sponge or terrycloth towel to lather the car, starting with the roof. When the roof has been cleaned, rinse the soap off completely. Repeat this process with each side of the car, including windows, tires, etc., doing one side at a time. Washing one side of the car at a time will prevent soap from drying on the car before it is completely washed.

. After all sides have been washed and rinsed, rinse the entire car, beginning with the roof.

. Using a soft dry towel, dry the car thoroughly, starting again with the roof and doing all four sides one at a time. Extra dry towels may be needed for this as towels become saturated with water.

. Using another towel, wipe all chrome and metal until water spots are removed.

. Clean windows inside and outside with window cleaner or a solution of water and white vinegar.

Before beginning to polish the car, read the instructions on the label of the product you have chosen. All waxes and polishes do not have the same instructions for use. Polishes come in several forms. You may wish to check with auto parts store personnel to decide which best suits your needs.

Here are some general suggestions that apply to most car polishes:

. Always choose a shady area to polish a car. This helps prevent streaking.

. Only work on one small section of the car at a time.

. Use a soft terrycloth towel or specially-purchased cloth to apply the polish.

. Apply polish with a circular motion. Then allow polish to dry to a haze.

. Using another dry towel or cloth of the same type, buff the polish.

. Adding extra layers of polish is not necessary since each layer added removes the previous layer.

. If road tar adheres to any area, remove with a small amount of WD-40 on a soft clean cloth. Wipe off quickly and rewax the area.
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ok...now i have most of the stuff here. meguair clay + detailing liquid, scratch X, soft99 soft wax...and i dont have a polish. hahaha...

if i do this wash > dry > clay > Scratch X >> straight away wax. no polish. is it ok? cos the car is only 1 year old, so dun think need to polish the outer layer plus i have scratch X to fix the scratches.

any suggestions?

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if u have very geng scratches den need polish lo or cutter polish as they say ... else S.X is sufficient as it is a mild polish oso wink.gif .. normal calar n spider webs can b settle by SX or even CX ... wink.gif
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QUOTE(satigue @ Jan 16 2006, 01:50 PM)
thanks bro. i will get it from eneos tonight. really kek sim after spending whole day detailing my ride but outcome still not impressive. can a white car really get all out from Meguiars NXT Generation Tech Wax? i m really having doubts.
step 2 u mean is the Deep Crystal System Paint Cleaner step 2 izzit?

nycs82, sorry la bro. i ngam ngam happen to go eneos tht day unplanned, so got it from there lo... biggrin.gif
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wash > clay > ScratchX / step2 > Klasse AIO > Klasse Sg > PS21 ...... thumbup.gif ....but lazy to do.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ Jan 22 2006, 03:35 PM)
ok...now i have most of the stuff here. meguair clay + detailing liquid, scratch X, soft99 soft wax...and i dont have a polish. hahaha...

if i do this wash > dry > clay > Scratch X >> straight away wax. no polish. is it ok? cos the car is only 1 year old, so dun think need to polish the outer layer plus i have scratch X to fix the scratches.

any suggestions?
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QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ Jan 22 2006, 03:35 PM)
ok...now i have most of the stuff here. meguair clay + detailing liquid, scratch X, soft99 soft wax...and i dont have a polish. hahaha...

if i do this wash > dry > clay > Scratch X >> straight away wax. no polish. is it ok? cos the car is only 1 year old, so dun think need to polish the outer layer plus i have scratch X to fix the scratches.

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which soft 99 wax r u having? dun simply use hor...my car was swirl free until i used soft 99 wax in the blue tin one.


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Spike,
which soft 99 wax r u having? dun simply use hor...my car was swirl free until i used soft 99 wax in the blue tin one.
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most of soft99 product all come in japs wording. cant understand..!!
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it is the black one. for dark color cars...black, dark blue...bla bla.
mine is black + a lil blue de. fusson something. or it is the same as urs? then i need to change lo!!! sweat.gif thanks for telling~~ which one i should change? the metal can one?

wat's the correct wax step? i've read polish, clay...but wax?

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as lonewolf said, if dun understd, then dun buy(use). i was using the blue metal can one la.....i hv 2 stainless steel cans for sale. anybody interested? it's called soft 99 meta clean.
wax is the last step....polish is after u clay yr car. u do it only when required.
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haha...i am too far from u.
yeah...shouldnt buy...but last time dunno mah.

so as long as the instruction stated pearl & metallic i can buy?
my car is dark blue metallic. thanks a bunch!!! if know which one, then me can go change tomolo. know the tauke one...but he knows crap bout detailing. haha...
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spike, how far is far? for dark blue METALLIC paint shud be using the SOFT 99 chrome can. yes, it's stated pearl & metallic. the wording on the can shud be META CLEAN. let us know yr waxing results. c got swirls or not.
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to remove black dots(its on my roof and bonet)....what's the besh method? do I need to wax/polish the whole car? sweat.gif got any special thing to remove the black dots..fyi I parked my car under some tree for a whole week sweat.gif maybe the rubber of the leaves of something sweat.gif so anyone would care to advice on what do I need to do? unsure.gif

stuff that I already have..

1-99wax
2-polimer sealent wax
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wax will seal those dots!!! use clay lo...


satigue: i'll do it tomolo, new year eve. haha...will ty to post some pics here. already changed to pearl white color can stated pearl and metallic. i'll wash the wheels with armor all wheel clean, then send the car for cleaning, then come back clay, minor polish and wax. hope the result would be good from the tips of all sifus here.

btw, do i really need to control the movement during clay, polish and wash? cannot do random direction? me using hand only. no machine. thanks. =P
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QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ Jan 27 2006, 08:43 PM)
wax will seal those dots!!! use clay lo...
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u mean wax will make things worse? sweat.gif clay? unsure.gif

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Dude ... read back previous post ... all details n info there wink.gif

IMHO ... i dun like soft99 ... get a more recognized polish n wax ... even car wash shampoo ...

Remember ... u dowan swirls ... get micro fibre cloths ...
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QUOTE(pilotHans @ Jan 27 2006, 07:43 PM)
to remove black dots(its on my roof and bonet)....what's the besh method? do I need to wax/polish the whole car? sweat.gif  got any special thing to remove the black dots..fyi I parked my car under some tree for a whole week  sweat.gif maybe the rubber of the leaves of something  sweat.gif so anyone would care to advice on what do I need to do?  unsure.gif

stuff that I already have..

1-99wax
2-polimer sealent wax
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pure wax will not remove those black dots...go get a MG step #2, or get scratchX..


need full detaling info. go read the link below. for newbies to detailing, please read the link below...most of your questions is answered there
READ HERE FOR GUIDES ON DETAILING



QUOTE(nycs82 @ Jan 27 2006, 09:55 PM)
Dude ... read back previous post ... all details n info there wink.gif

IMHO ... i dun like soft99 ... get a more recognized polish n wax ... even car wash shampoo ...

Remember ... u dowan swirls ... get micro fibre cloths ...
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spike, no special movement la. when apply wax, use circular motion la. clay any direction also doesn't matter but make sure no sand or dirt in d clay.
eh...not stainless steel can meh? how come pearl white can?

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hahaha...saturday i detailed the whole damn day. bout 10 hours.
the wax is written pearl and metallic. so i get that one lo. the result not bad. dunno really got swirl or not (cos the car never detail before this for a year plus) might have some old scratches...

the problem is some part like parts below the screen water spray area i waxed twice. but din do smooth enough. haha...so hard to control the uniformity with hand. but it is not very apparent (only certain angles and pay extreme attention then u can see) cos i used meguairs detailer to detail the surface once more.

btw, i nearly finished the whole bottle of meguair quick detailer that comes with the clay (still left 1/5). haha...mayeb used too much.

edit: oh ya, it is really super smooth after i clay. haha..but huge tars that died in hard to remove liaw. not even polish could remove them. nvm la. hehe...

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Has anyone had experience with Carnauba Autospa before? They've just opened up a branch (i presume its a branch) in Jalan Tun Razak and they're charging RM130 for 3-step polishing. They're using Zymol products. Any comments guys?
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My car's front bumper got stone chips edy cry.gif cry.gif Can touch up ka? cry.gif cry.gif
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My car's front bumper got stone chips edy cry.gif  cry.gif Can touch up ka? cry.gif  cry.gif
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u can get those chalk or liquid paper kinda look bottle..u go ENEOS/jusco got one
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QUOTE(lonewolf @ Feb 6 2006, 01:14 AM)
u can get those chalk or liquid paper kinda look bottle..u go ENEOS/jusco got one
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Thanks bro! Will go check it out! Damn these stones la dunno where they come from. I dun even tailgate people can kena also doh.gif
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very common la dude..if you are using the car daily..i dun even bother on the chips..sooner or later it will be back...just don't follow lorry...and try to avoid those grass cutters..other than that..nothing much can do..unless u keep ya car in ya house whole year....


and yes...one more thing..when u buy the chalk...becarefull of the color code..i bought the perodua white color..guess what..the white dun even match my car white.. doh.gif

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ahahaha ... color codes ... write it down ...

anyway mine kena stone frm lorry on the bonet ... kena a car in front den kena mine ... 3 lubangs liao ... touch up oso quite obvious ... sweat.gif cry.gif ...

Moral of the story: Dowan stone chips or dents = dun drive laugh.gif else theres nothing much u can do as lonewolf said ... it'll keep baliking ... juz tampal balik lorr .... haih
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Cannot tahan...wanna repaint my car la tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif
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Has anyone had experience with Carnauba Autospa before? They've just opened up a branch (i presume its a branch) in Jalan Tun Razak and they're charging RM130 for 3-step polishing. They're using Zymol products. Any comments guys?
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crazy price...
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crazy price...
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Crazy? I find it cheap and affordable smile.gif
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crazy price...
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zymol....great product...one of the best..but a better suggestion is...u get the product and DIY at home..that will save alot of $$....and u will get rewarded with you own sweat...body ache...and own handwork of shinny body work. thumbup.gif
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I'd love to do it myself but I've already got so little time to myself as it is so i guess i've gotta get it done at the shop.
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i wonder whether i can post dis or not?
dis is my car.
be4 and after.
pretty ah?
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I am sure it is... but the pictures are blurry... can't really tell. smile.gif


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no offense but i dun find local made cars fitted wif neon lights attractive lor ...

its like fitting ..... erm i think i better not go there tongue.gif
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QUOTE(RedBox @ Feb 15 2006, 03:10 AM)
I am sure it is... but the pictures are blurry... can't really tell. smile.gif
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blurry=wavvy effect on paint is it can be corrected abit by sanding? is it possible just by repaint the clear coat and not the metallic paint?

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those wavvy paint are called orange peel skin...coz it looks like orange skin surface..
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QUOTE(eddyann @ Feb 16 2006, 02:58 PM)
blurry=wavvy effect on paint is it can be corrected abit by sanding? is it possible just by repaint the clear coat and not the metallic paint?
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You guys are right however I am actually refering to the low quality of the pictures causing it difficult to see the actual shine. smile.gif


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ahaha ... u wan shine? ... here u go tongue.gif

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Take care n maintained by normal weekly washes wif a Spray Detailer/ Quick detailer wink.gif

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Sigh...my front bumper got even more stone chips sad.gif
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heh,dont you think its hella waste of money ? theres people starving in other places,and here pouring money just for a besi buruk...think about it
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Who me? This is car detailing thread, please mind your words. How dare you call my car a besi buruk. I heard from somewhere that you're a Cars member right? You call that saving money? Saving money is detailing by yourself. If you're so sensitive about poverty, go sell your Jazz and split your money. One part go buy another cheap2 car, one part go derma to your starving friends. God damn you whistling.gif
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QUOTE(ammar @ Feb 26 2006, 01:34 PM)
heh,dont you think its hella waste of money ? theres people starving in other places,and here pouring money just for a besi buruk...think about it
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Go sell ur call ... ride a bike and donate the leftovers to help other ppl lo wink.gif

Im sure u can save the environment while helping the unfortunate wink.gif

Else keep quite juz read if u have nothing to contribute ...

egiewan .... u owned him b4 wif ur Civic izit? Settle ur personal matters on da road la ... brows.gif ... be it drag or sprint tongue.gif brows.gif

Aight .... back to detailing!!!!

Stonechips are part of life when u have a car la .... wat2 do ... at leaast u front buumper ... me bonet lerrrr cry.gif
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QUOTE(nycs82 @ Feb 26 2006, 04:01 PM)
Go sell ur call ... ride a bike and donate the leftovers to help other ppl lo wink.gif

Im sure u can save the environment while helping the unfortunate wink.gif

Else keep quite juz read if u have nothing to contribute ...

egiewan .... u owned him b4 wif ur Civic izit? Settle ur personal matters on da road la ... brows.gif ... be it drag or sprint tongue.gif brows.gif

Aight .... back to detailing!!!!

Stonechips are part of life when u have a car la ....  wat2 do ...  at leaast u front buumper ... me bonet lerrrr cry.gif
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Nvm..just leave that joker alone. Btw bro, heard of Paintsheild? Izzit worth the money? Thinking of doing it for my bonnet and front bumper smile.gif
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Mahal lerr ... but i u willing to pay den up2 lo .... i still feel ... after a while respray la better thumbup.gif ... choose d color u wan tongue.gif
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QUOTE(nycs82 @ Feb 28 2006, 06:44 PM)
Mahal lerr ... but i u willing to pay den up2 lo .... i still feel ... after a while respray la better thumbup.gif ... choose d color u wan tongue.gif
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I wanna respray my car too but my car still new leh tongue.gif My dad is gonna kill me when I change my car's colour laugh.gif laugh.gif I guess we have to live with the stone chips anyway and avoid from scratches wink.gif
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QUOTE(ammar @ Feb 26 2006, 01:34 PM)
heh,dont you think its hella waste of money ? theres people starving in other places,and here pouring money just for a besi buruk...think about it
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lol...who cares bout ppl starving? none of my business.
there's always ways to get out from starving. just need to use ur brain. cool.gif

ok, back to the topic. how much is the soft99 clay bar? i bought meguires RM68 quick detailing + clay...nearly finish the whole thing when i did my first claying.
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RM28.50 ... per bar ...

Meg's comes wif the quick detailer ... but u can use normal car wash soap mix wif water lo ... more economic but Megs give u slightly better results la tongue.gif

Clay juz divide and use it in small pieces lo ... but understood u overdid wif the detailer tongue.gif
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i just clayed my car 2 days ago & suddenly after awhile, my clay start to break into small small tiny pieces. how come huh? this is only my 2nd time using the clay. it's meguairs tht i bought came wif the quick detailer. sigh.
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ha? clay can only use once bo. the used one i kept to clean my tyres and rims. hahha...never use it on paint works!!!

yeah, btw, i over used the detailer. cos it was fun to see it removing my water spots and all. but need a bit of hard work with the clay...can remove paint dots from my god damn neighbour too. during cny they paint the fences and the white small paint drops on my car.

good clay. i love it...but a bit costly. hahaha... the detailer gives a gloss effect. i just cant help keep doing it...now left 7/9 after first use i think. hahaha...gonna get another one.
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QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ Mar 2 2006, 10:44 PM)
ha? clay can only use once bo. the used one i kept to clean my tyres and rims. hahha...never use it on paint works!!!

yeah, btw, i over used the detailer. cos it was fun to see it removing my water spots and all. but need a bit of hard work with the clay...can remove paint dots from my god damn neighbour too. during cny they paint the fences and the white small paint drops on my car.

good clay. i love it...but a bit costly. hahaha... the detailer gives a gloss effect. i just cant help keep doing it...now left 7/9 after first use i think. hahaha...gonna get another one.
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erm ... can reuse la ... but advicible not on paint work coz if there's any contaminants or worst still sand particals .... u will get more "flowers" on your car tongue.gif

Keep those for rims, mirror and other parts of the car tongue.gif
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can reuse for how long until it breaks up?

anyone checked out eneos fair in 1U yet? any detailing stuff on sale?
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clay can only be used once?  unsure.gif any sifu here to advice?
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am wondering, u all notice that some car got it and some car dun... both tyres in front is full of break dust and some cars dun have break dust at all on their rims...

i notice that even u wash ur car + tyres every week, somehow the dust keep comin back after 2-3 days on ur rim... while some car 1 month or so dint wash also no break dust on their rim...

how to overcome this dust thing? cannot expect me to wash tyres every 2-3 days right??? why some car have it and some car not?
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thats because of your brakepad...change your brake pad to a more reputable brand.
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Yo guys, can recommend me any good Tar Remover out there? Looking for a good one smile.gif
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http://www.essexracing.com/images/agtarremover.jpg

its autoglym ...
this is not bad ... but make sure after u remove ... clean n wax it back ...

else u can juz use clay ... it helps unless u have a lot la rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(nycs82 @ Apr 3 2006, 06:34 PM)
http://www.essexracing.com/images/agtarremover.jpg

its autoglym ...
this is not bad ... but make sure after u remove ... clean n wax it back ...

else u can juz use clay ... it helps unless u have a lot la  rclxub.gif
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erm ... i still believe good stuff no cheap cheap stuff long term ur car paint gone case tongue.gif

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QUOTE(nycs82 @ Apr 3 2006, 09:42 PM)
erm ... i still believe good stuff no cheap cheap stuff long term ur car paint gone case tongue.gif
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Repaint den ... if i got the $$ i will repaint every year laugh.gif
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Repaint den ... if i got the $$ i will repaint every year laugh.gif
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Just bought the Autoglym Intensive Tar Remover...it works well thumbup.gif All the tar gone just like THAT. My old CarPlan Tar Remover sucks compared to the Autoglym one tongue.gif
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i told u so tongue.gif

remember to rewax tat area to protect the paint


Damn ... i found out my car side got dent .... from those @rses who open their door so damn wide la vmad.gif mad.gif vmad.gif mad.gif

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i told u so tongue.gif

remember to rewax tat area to protect the paint
Damn ... i found out my car side got dent .... from those @rses who open their door so damn wide la  vmad.gif  mad.gif  vmad.gif  mad.gif
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Only one ah.. you are again very lucky... I pretty much gave up on mine in terms of getting upset each time I see a dent from someone opening their door and banging into mine.

The passenger side is now filled with at least 5 dings, not counting the one where someone actually has their whole door scrape into mine... sad.gif cry.gif sad.gif cry.gif I can tell because it was at a time when I have not washed my car and I can see where it scrapes off the dust/dirt. Sigh... Sakit hati....


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QUOTE(RedBox @ Apr 7 2006, 12:01 PM)
Only one ah.. you are again very lucky... I pretty much gave up on mine in terms of getting upset each time I see a dent from someone opening their door and banging into mine.

The passenger side is now filled with at least 5 dings, not counting the one where someone actually has their whole door scrape into mine...  sad.gif  cry.gif  sad.gif  cry.gif I can tell because it was at a time when I have not washed my car and I can see where it scrapes off the dust/dirt. Sigh... Sakit hati....
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QUOTE(RedBox @ Apr 7 2006, 12:01 PM)
Only one ah.. you are again very lucky... I pretty much gave up on mine in terms of getting upset each time I see a dent from someone opening their door and banging into mine.

The passenger side is now filled with at least 5 dings, not counting the one where someone actually has their whole door scrape into mine...  sad.gif  cry.gif  sad.gif  cry.gif I can tell because it was at a time when I have not washed my car and I can see where it scrapes off the dust/dirt. Sigh... Sakit hati....
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Those small dents can be fixed rite? Some paint shops got those 'vacuum' machine. Give it a try thumbup.gif RedBox, got any latest pics of your car? Wanna see drool.gif
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Those small dents can be fixed rite? Some paint shops got those 'vacuum' machine. Give it a try thumbup.gif RedBox, got any latest pics of your car? Wanna see drool.gif
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Cost too much. Well, at least too much for what I can spend on now. There were some minor hail damage as well, not very visible until you actually spend time looking for it. About 6 months back, I took it to a body shop that does paintless dents/dings repair and it was going to cost about US$500 to US$600.

I feel that someone is still going to bump into my car with their door after I get it fix so until I can find a way of preventing or catching the culprit, I wasn't going to spend the money. What I thought about was installing cameras to record these *no good SOB* and make a claim to their insurance each time it happens. tongue.gif

I've got some pictures back on the first post but not any new ones. When I moved ISP, my website went offline but I got it on a different host now so it's back. I need to wash and detail my car before posting additional pictures. smile.gif


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QUOTE(RedBox @ Apr 7 2006, 11:54 PM)
Cost too much. Well, at least too much for what I can spend on now. There were some minor hail damage as well, not very visible until you actually spend time looking for it. About 6 months back, I took it to a body shop that does paintless dents/dings repair and it was going to cost about US$500 to US$600.

I feel that someone is still going to bump into my car with their door after I get it fix so until I can find a way of preventing or catching the culprit, I wasn't going to spend the money. What I thought about was installing cameras to record these *no good SOB* and make a claim to their insurance each time it happens. tongue.gif

I've got some pictures back on the first post but not any new ones. When I moved ISP, my website went offline but I got it on a different host now so it's back. I need to wash and detail my car before posting additional pictures. smile.gif
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ehehehe ... waiting 2c ur Civic lo .... brows.gif ... no go TT ma ... so c pics oni lorr tongue.gif
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wah, so many dents on the sides, i thought i am the only one only...yea i feel your pain too, and i checked with "chip's away" the company, wah damn freaking expensive just to patch as small dent....
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wah, so many dents on the sides, i thought i am the only one only...yea i feel your pain too, and i checked with "chip's away" the company, wah damn freaking expensive just to patch as small dent....
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Just bought the Autoglym Intensive Tar Remover...it works well thumbup.gif All the tar gone just like THAT. My old CarPlan Tar Remover sucks compared to the Autoglym one tongue.gif
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heard that tar remover very good leh..how much ar?
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My white kancil already 8 years old and the body like has some black oil stick on the paint and can't remove in the normal wash.may i know is there has any liquid or other way to remove it?
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My white kancil already 8 years old and the body like has some black oil stick on the paint and can't remove in the normal wash.may i know is there has any liquid or other way to remove it?
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for interior plastic got scratches what product can be used?
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My white kancil already 8 years old and the body like has some black oil stick on the paint and can't remove in the normal wash.may i know is there has any liquid or other way to remove it?
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Tar/dirt removal or clay? Have you tried that?
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nope,sorry i totally dun know all of this things.em...may b is a good idea to remove those tar.may i know what brand does these tar/dirt removal are popular and good used?thanks for your useful advise. thumbup.gif
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I have not had bad tar stuck to my car but I use clay to remove the normal grim/tree sap/etc. Check my post on the first page on the claying process. You should be able to buy it from auto stores.

egiewan has this to say on Autoglym Intensive Tar Remover. You might want to give it a try too.

QUOTE(egiewan @ Apr 6 2006, 10:27 PM)
Just bought the Autoglym Intensive Tar Remover...it works well thumbup.gif All the tar gone just like THAT. My old CarPlan Tar Remover sucks compared to the Autoglym one tongue.gif
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I just came back from from Jaya Jusco. The Intensive Tar Remover is only RM50 vmad.gif vmad.gif My father kena con liao mad.gif
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Just finished detailing my car. Sorry for the dark and blurry pictures...blame my lousy phone camera tongue.gif

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yeah, best if u can snap the pix under the hot sun. wanna see the shiny result.
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yeah, best if u can snap the pix under the hot sun. wanna see the shiny result.
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izit true our rainy weather here in msia not so suitable for detailing? one time rain only, all hard work gone. tht's what i experience. wife always nagging say it's waste of time spending on car instead of with wife & children. sweat.gif unlike in states or elsewhere where it's doesn't rain tht much & not humid.

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QUOTE(satigue @ May 14 2006, 10:04 AM)
izit true our rainy weather here in msia not so suitable for detailing? one time rain only, all hard work gone. tht's what i experience. wife always nagging say it's waste of time spending on car instead of with wife & children. sweat.gif  unlike in states or elsewhere where it's doesn't rain tht much & not humid.
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I dun think so. That's why we use wax. For protection ma tongue.gif Guys, I dun think I can post my car pics this week. I detailed my car yesterday and then it rained sweat.gif I'll try again next week wink.gif
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I dun think so. That's why we use wax. For protection ma tongue.gif Guys, I dun think I can post my car pics this week. I detailed my car yesterday and then it rained sweat.gif I'll try again next week wink.gif
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tht's what i meant by the above. it rained & all hard worked gone. very tiring & heartache u know. sweat.gif
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tht's what i meant by the above. it rained & all hard worked gone. very tiring & heartache u know. sweat.gif
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Well love it not easy... tongue.gif Anyway, satigue, it is going to be easier to clean if you detail your car properly say a few times a year. If you read my instructions in the first post, I only do proper detailing a few times a year. That will give it the protection it needs and at other times, I do quick detailing with the proper products to maintain cleanliness and shine.

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Why this thread so quiet one? Where are you guys? All bored of detailing edy ka? laugh.gif
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because there is nothing to talk..hmmm...let me ask some stupid question..

would it be feasible to make the paint have no spider webs for a everyday use car?


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my front hood hv stains. how to remove huh? it happened when i clayed the hood & left it to dry. shud hv flushed with water straight away but i din. so now got soap marks even clay can't be removed. what to do huh?
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my front hood hv stains. how to remove huh? it happened when i clayed the hood & left it to dry. shud hv flushed with water straight away but i din. so now got soap marks even clay can't be removed. what to do huh?
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polish? hv to use tht hand machine izzit?
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dun have to use machine..use ya hand also can. you will have big nice mucle later..
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because there is nothing to talk..hmmm...let me ask some stupid question..

would it be feasible to make the paint have no spider webs for a everyday use car?
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QUOTE(lonewolf @ May 25 2006, 02:38 PM)
but wax won't cover the little valleys leh...
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how often do u send for polish? any recommendation? every 6 mths?
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how often do u send for polish? any recommendation? every 6 mths?
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some recommend every six month, but it still depends on the surface condition. If u do maintain ya car like waxing every month at least twice, park under shade most of the time..you only need to do the polishing one a year. Remember, polishing will make ya paint thinner, so too much is bad for the paint.

Most of the forummers here DIY during the freetime, its a good body workout.
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QUOTE(satigue @ May 26 2006, 10:11 AM)
how often do u send for polish? any recommendation? every 6 mths?
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When my car's body got scratch here and there I go lor. Now only got 2 minor scratches tongue.gif Most detailers prefer to polish once every 6 months. Once a year also can thumbup.gif

QUOTE(lonewolf @ May 26 2006, 10:15 AM)
some recommend every six month, but it still depends on the surface condition. If u do maintain ya car like waxing every month at least twice, park under shade most of the time..you only need to do the polishing one a year. Remember, polishing will make ya paint thinner, so too much is bad for the paint.

Most of the forummers here DIY during the freetime, its a good body workout.
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Yeah...polish can make the clear coat thinner. But, try to avoid high grade polish lor. Like those 4B ones sweat.gif Use a softer polish first...soft to your clear coat that is wink.gif
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I send my car for wash yesterday. Took it back for waxing, I feel there are many uneven surface. Like tiny specks of sand on the body. Then there's one or two patch of bird shits that are hard to remove. I dare no scratch it. So how?? icon_question.gif

Adui..waxing is very tiring job for a gal. sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif
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go visit a more reputable car detailer, make sure they do have the process of claying. the claying will remove those rought sand feeling.....those etch bird dropping you might need to polish them..then top up with wax...

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Adui..wonder how much will it cost?? Already got dents and scratches here and there due to parking at supermarkets, people dun care, just simply open their door slam on mine cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
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QUOTE(hamster9 @ May 28 2006, 01:17 PM)
Adui..wonder how much will it cost?? Already got dents and scratches here and there due to parking at supermarkets, people dun care, just simply open their door slam on mine  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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Normally around RM200+++. Standard issue price smile.gif If the dents are quite bad, I think you have to respray lor sweat.gif
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.... some bird bird decided to poo on me back ...

and erm ... i didnt really bother to clean it up ... cuz i tot it'll easily come off ... but after reading some stuff ... seems like its one of the worst nightmares a driver can think of ....

anyone can point me towards a direction that i can work with?
so far i've used soft99 wax to wipe it off ... not working
ive used wd40 to wipe it off ... oso not working
ive used auto glym paint renovator to wipe it off ... oso not working

soo .... any other remedies?? .. me noob in car detailing ... or even car washing ... so ... pls dont flame me ... plsss ...
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QUOTE(yeahh @ May 28 2006, 06:24 PM)
.... some bird bird decided to poo on me back ...

and erm ... i didnt really bother to clean it up ... cuz i tot it'll easily come off ... but after reading some stuff ... seems like its one of the worst nightmares a driver can think of ....

anyone can point me towards a direction that i can work with?
so far i've used soft99 wax to wipe it off ... not working
ive used wd40 to wipe it off ... oso not working
ive used auto glym paint renovator to wipe it off ... oso not working

soo .... any other remedies?? ..  me noob in car detailing ... or even car washing ... so ... pls dont flame me ... plsss ...
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Try polishing smile.gif If you see got some bird poo on the body of your car, terus wipe or clean it off. It will bond with the clear coat sweat.gif Dun leave the bird poo on the car for more than a week wink.gif
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QUOTE(egiewan @ May 28 2006, 07:27 PM)
Try polishing smile.gif If you see got some bird poo on the body of your car, terus wipe or clean it off. It will bond with the clear coat sweat.gif Dun leave the bird poo on the car for more than a week wink.gif
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more that a week...wow..that too long wei...usually if u see any poo around, straight i pour water and wipe it off..furthermore, is under the sun...once is etched to the clear coat..then more work have to do....if the poo is within 24 hours and under the hot bake sun, it will etched abit already
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QUOTE(lonewolf @ May 28 2006, 11:40 PM)
more that a week...wow..that too long wei...usually if u see any poo around, straight i pour water and wipe it off..furthermore, is under the sun...once is etched to the clear coat..then more work have to do....if the poo is within 24 hours and under the hot bake sun, it will etched abit already
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Yeah...better to clean it off as fast as possible. I mean 1 week is the last resort la. Still can save the paint tongue.gif Not many people care about bird poo. They think it's nothing sweat.gif
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bird poo is really corrosive man. dun play play ar....
dat day after rain stop, i drove my car & had to go thru those kampung road where they where construting to widen the road. so of cos very dirty la with all the earth works going on. my car white somemore. after tht reach home, my car had all those water with earth work(red or brown color), so i just did a simply rinse to get rid of it. cannot wait for it to dry cos it will etched onto the clear coat. true enuf after a week, i only realise there were water marks at some spots all over the car. brown in color. normal washing also wun come off but Claying did the job.* thumbs*
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QUOTE(egiewan @ May 28 2006, 07:27 PM)
Try polishing smile.gif If you see got some bird poo on the body of your car, terus wipe or clean it off. It will bond with the clear coat sweat.gif Dun leave the bird poo on the car for more than a week wink.gif
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Polishing also can't leh..how? Still stuck there... Can I clay it myself? unsure.gif unsure.gif
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QUOTE(hamster9 @ May 29 2006, 10:02 AM)
Polishing also can't leh..how? Still stuck there... Can I clay it myself?  unsure.gif  unsure.gif
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Polishing also cannot? sweat.gif Better ask the experts. Serious man sweat.gif
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Leng lui ... if polish oso can't means ur scratch quite deep d so no point polish oredi coz it'll oni make ur paint thinner ... either live with it or get it re-sprayed ...

Bird poo ... once u got it on ur car ... immediately get out and wipe it off wif at least a wet tissue or sumthing ... NEVER leave it overnight!!

Avoid parking under Mango trees as well ... the sap will leave souvenirs for u too ...

Claying basically removes those tough grimes on ur car eg: water mark, tar, bonded dirt with wax etc ...

After wash oni u clay den wash den polish den wax den wax n wax tongue.gif ... most is 3 layers lo wink.gif

if u can't tahan do urself ... get ur bf to do it for u ... if no bf u can alwiz fish 1 here laugh.gif ... if ur not into guys den can pay some detailers to do it for u lo laugh.gif

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QUOTE(nycs82 @ May 29 2006, 01:59 PM)
Leng lui ... if polish oso can't means ur scratch quite deep d so no point polish oredi coz it'll oni make ur paint thinner ... either live with it or get it re-sprayed ...

Bird poo ... once u got it on ur car ... immediately get out and wipe it off wif at least a wet tissue or sumthing ... NEVER leave it overnight!!

Avoid parking under Mango trees as well ... the sap will leave souvenirs for u too ...

Claying basically removes those tough grimes on ur car eg: water mark, tar, bonded dirt with wax etc ...

After wash oni u clay den wash den polish den wax den wax n wax tongue.gif ... most is 3 layers lo wink.gif

if u can't tahan do urself ... get ur bf to do it for u ... if no bf u can alwiz fish 1 here laugh.gif ... if ur not into guys den can pay some detailers to do it for u lo laugh.gif
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The bird poo was there I think for one month. This car I seldom use wan as I'm always away outstation with another car. I came back got 2 spots of bird poo. So I send it for wash, the white colour can wash away but the biji cannot come out cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif i scared it corrode it until got lubang

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ive got 2 grey spots on it now ....
its a light shade of gray le .... but still damn blardy ugly
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QUOTE(hamster9 @ May 29 2006, 03:20 PM)
The bird poo was there I think for one month. This car I seldom use wan as I'm always away outstation with another car. I came back got 2 spots of bird poo. So I send it for wash, the white colour can wash away but the biji cannot come out  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  i scared it corrode it until got lubang
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wah, got 2 cars...... notworthy.gif
try claying.
QUOTE(yeahh @ May 29 2006, 09:42 PM)
ive got 2 grey spots on it now ....
its a light shade of gray le .... but still damn blardy ugly
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try claying. u'll be amazed! i was when i 1st got it. thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(satigue @ May 30 2006, 08:03 AM)
wah, got 2 cars...... notworthy.gif
try claying.

try claying. u'll be amazed! i was when i 1st got it. thumbup.gif
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Never tried claying before. How much is the Meguairs one? smile.gif
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meguairs one is around RM70..comes with quick detailing spray(lubricant)

soft99..only clay is around RM20..

best if you can get a blue clay in ENEOS...japanese brand..only the clay around RM60...

do remember..different clay do have different rating for the abbrasiveness
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QUOTE(lonewolf @ May 30 2006, 04:24 PM)
meguairs one is around RM70..comes with quick detailing spray(lubricant)

soft99..only clay is around RM20..

best if you can get a blue clay in ENEOS...japanese brand..only the clay around RM60...

do remember..different clay do have different rating for the abbrasiveness
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erm is there an exact name for it??
i got the autoglym paint renovator ... which was recommened in autoworld forum i think ... didnt work .... darn ... thats not clay rite?? .. hmm i dont think so oso since its liquid form ... haha ..
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Erm.. unsure.gif wat if I spray WD-40?? Can ar?? brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(hamster9 @ May 31 2006, 04:24 PM)
Erm..  unsure.gif  wat if I spray WD-40?? Can ar??  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif
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i tried ... the bird droppings still maintained there. ..
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QUOTE(egiewan @ May 30 2006, 03:51 PM)
Never tried claying before. How much is the Meguairs one? smile.gif
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konon tak tau....haha. rclxms.gif

QUOTE(lonewolf @ May 30 2006, 04:24 PM)
meguairs one is around RM70..comes with quick detailing spray(lubricant)

soft99..only clay is around RM20..

best if you can get a blue clay in ENEOS...japanese brand..only the clay around RM60...

do remember..different clay do have different rating for the abbrasiveness
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blue clay? whow....how different izit from the meguiars one? more abbrasive? soft 99 products mostly in japanese. so we dun understd the instructuions.
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QUOTE(satigue @ Jun 1 2006, 10:30 AM)
konon tak tau....haha. rclxms.gif
blue clay? whow....how different izit from the meguiars one? more abbrasive? soft 99 products mostly in japanese. so we dun understd the instructuions.
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Honestly bro I've never tried claying before sweat.gif When I got my car, terus go wax liao. I wax so often one I think I dun need to do claying tongue.gif
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QUOTE(egiewan @ Jun 1 2006, 12:05 PM)
Honestly bro I've never tried claying before sweat.gif When I got my car, terus go wax liao. I wax so often one I think I dun need to do claying tongue.gif
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sure no need claying? hard to belief la unless u dun drive yr car at all since u bought it. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(satigue @ Jun 1 2006, 05:02 PM)
sure no need claying? hard to belief la unless u dun drive yr car at all since u bought it. biggrin.gif
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Nop, is possible that his car no need claying. it all falls back on how well u maintain ya car and how and where you park and use ya car.


QUOTE(satigue @ Jun 1 2006, 10:30 AM)
konon tak tau....haha. rclxms.gif
blue clay? whow....how different izit from the meguiars one? more abbrasive? soft 99 products mostly in japanese. so we dun understd the instructuions.
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is softter for the blue one..so is easier to do ya work


QUOTE(hamster9 @ May 31 2006, 04:24 PM)
Erm..  unsure.gif  wat if I spray WD-40?? Can ar??  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif
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huh?..you gonna spray some oil to ya car body... doh.gif ....thats a big NO NO...
just wet that pooh with water, wipe it off with microfibre cloth. then try to use some polish. you can try ScratchX first.

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QUOTE(satigue @ Jun 1 2006, 05:02 PM)
sure no need claying? hard to belief la unless u dun drive yr car at all since u bought it. biggrin.gif
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I drive VERY carefully wei tongue.gif Yeah, I maintain the car as often as possible. But who knows? One day maybe I need to do claying. For now no need la icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(egiewan @ Jun 1 2006, 08:01 PM)
I drive VERY carefully wei tongue.gif Yeah, I maintain the car as often as possible. But who knows? One day maybe I need to do claying. For now no need la icon_rolleyes.gif
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can u define how u drive VERY carefully? laugh.gif i m curious....really.

Hamster9, how's yr problem? solve already or still persist? smile.gif
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QUOTE(lonewolf @ Jun 1 2006, 05:52 PM)
Nop, is possible that his car no need claying. it all falls back on how well u maintain ya car and how and where you park and use ya car.
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it's hard to belief cos u know la how our m'sian road condition. for eg, once u drv over new tar road, sure got tar stuck to the car. tht's one of the eg. other than tht can be due to insects. these r the few eg. i mentioned. there r many more.
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QUOTE(satigue @ Jun 2 2006, 08:07 AM)
it's hard to belief cos u know la how our m'sian road condition. for eg, once u drv over new tar road, sure got tar stuck to the car. tht's one of the eg. other than tht can be due to insects. these r the few eg. i mentioned. there r many more.
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haha..u never know how he maintain..wash every day...wax every 2 days..then no need to clay for sure.. rclxms.gif

hmmm...so let see...what gears do you have in your detailing collection currently, lets list them down..

my collection box
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- Klasse AIO rclxms.gif
- Klasse SG notworthy.gif
- MG Quck Detailer
- MG Ultimate Wipe
- Microfibre towels

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QUOTE(satigue @ Jun 2 2006, 08:07 AM)
it's hard to belief cos u know la how our m'sian road condition. for eg, once u drv over new tar road, sure got tar stuck to the car. tht's one of the eg. other than tht can be due to insects. these r the few eg. i mentioned. there r many more.
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Normally if that happens, I terus remove the tar with some tar remover and rewax the car lor wink.gif
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egiewan,
mind getting me a quotation from your friend's shop regarding his detailing package for my car? pm me the details aite? sad.gif
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omg, MG Tech Wax is now rm108, ColorX rm55, ScratchX, rm57. sweat.gif

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QUOTE(lonewolf @ Jun 1 2006, 05:52 PM)

huh?..you gonna spray some oil to ya car body... doh.gif ....thats a big NO NO...
just wet that pooh with water, wipe it off with microfibre cloth. then try to use some polish. you can try ScratchX first.
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Coz I already use high pressure water spray to spray it also cannot. wonder what's next despite seeing WD-40 easily removes rust stains from my padlock laugh.gif I haven't tried it though, afraid the patch will grow bigger on my black mettalic car shocking.gif
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QUOTE(Jackie Leong @ Jun 3 2006, 03:09 PM)
egiewan,
mind getting me a quotation from your friend's shop regarding his detailing package for my car? pm me the details aite? sad.gif
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You got the details edy aite? If anything, just PM or call me. I can book a spot for you wink.gif
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Yo detailing kakis ... how ya doing?!! Missed out quite a lot since i went MIA ... ehehe

wahh .... meg's naik harga d meh?

hamster9
Use claying n c got effect o not ...den use ColorX on it ... den wax it ... shud heal it more la if cant completely fix it

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The 1 u got is simaliar to ColorX, it heals the oxidize paint on ur car n it DOESN'T clean as much as it shud. AFAIK ColorX has a lil wax component in it as well ...

For clay, if u refer to the Soft99, there's 2 types, u buy depending on ur car coat. There's 1 for metallic and another i forgot tongue.gif .. i use the light green 1 for my black CT ... Meg's is not bad as well ... but a bit costly

Egie ... u wanna know when ur car needs claying? brows.gif When u wash ur car .. try feeling her body with ur fingers ... feel her everywhere ... n IF u FEEL ANY surface which is rough or "not smooth" den u NEED claying tongue.gif .. Sorry to break it to ya ... though waxing is good but usually dirt bonds with wax .. there for even u wax a lot the chances of bonded dirt is there ... worst still it gets cover n "protected" by a new wax job ... so i would suggest a good clay n polish n wax session la wink.gif

BTW, for any detailing shop, make sure they use MF cloths for buffing n drying ...
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soft99 clay eh??

will try to find for it ...

it will say there ... 'soft99 clay' wan rite??
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QUOTE(nycs82 @ Jun 4 2006, 12:45 PM)
Yo detailing kakis ... how ya doing?!! Missed out quite a lot since i went MIA ... ehehe

wahh .... meg's naik harga d meh?

hamster9
Use claying n c got effect o not ...den use ColorX on it ... den wax it ... shud heal it more la if cant completely fix it

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The 1 u got is simaliar to ColorX, it heals the oxidize paint on ur car n it DOESN'T clean as much as it shud. AFAIK ColorX has a lil wax component in it as well ...

For clay, if u refer to the Soft99, there's 2 types, u buy depending on ur car coat. There's 1 for metallic and another i forgot tongue.gif .. i use the light green 1 for my black CT ... Meg's is not bad as well ... but a bit costly

Egie ... u wanna know when ur car needs claying? brows.gif When u wash ur car ..  try feeling her body with ur fingers ... feel her everywhere ... n IF u FEEL ANY  surface which is rough or "not smooth" den u NEED claying tongue.gif .. Sorry to break it to ya ... though waxing is good but usually dirt bonds with wax .. there for even u wax a lot the chances of bonded dirt is there ... worst still it gets cover n "protected" by a new wax job ... so i would suggest a good clay n polish n wax session la wink.gif

BTW, for any detailing shop, make sure they use MF cloths for buffing n drying ...
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Yeah...I polish once every year wink.gif Will do claying as well and some touch up to my front bumper. Got stone chips cry.gif
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QUOTE(nycs82 @ Jun 4 2006, 12:45 PM)
Yo detailing kakis ... how ya doing?!! Missed out quite a lot since i went MIA ... ehehe

wahh .... meg's naik harga d meh?

hamster9
Use claying n c got effect o not ...den use ColorX on it ... den wax it ... shud heal it more la if cant completely fix it

yeahh
The 1 u got is simaliar to ColorX, it heals the oxidize paint on ur car n it DOESN'T clean as much as it shud. AFAIK ColorX has a lil wax component in it as well ...

For clay, if u refer to the Soft99, there's 2 types, u buy depending on ur car coat. There's 1 for metallic and another i forgot tongue.gif .. i use the light green 1 for my black CT ... Meg's is not bad as well ... but a bit costly

Egie ... u wanna know when ur car needs claying? brows.gif When u wash ur car ..  try feeling her body with ur fingers ... feel her everywhere ... n IF u FEEL ANY  surface which is rough or "not smooth" den u NEED claying tongue.gif .. Sorry to break it to ya ... though waxing is good but usually dirt bonds with wax .. there for even u wax a lot the chances of bonded dirt is there ... worst still it gets cover n "protected" by a new wax job ... so i would suggest a good clay n polish n wax session la wink.gif

BTW, for any detailing shop, make sure they use MF cloths for buffing n drying ...
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our sifu is here..... notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(egiewan @ Jun 4 2006, 12:58 PM)
Yeah...I polish once every year wink.gif Will do claying as well and some touch up to my front bumper. Got stone chips cry.gif
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stono chips very difficult to avoid huh eventhought we keep like 3 cars away from the front car. sad.gif
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QUOTE(satigue @ Jun 4 2006, 01:45 PM)
stono chips very difficult to avoid huh eventhought we keep like 3 cars away from the front car. sad.gif
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Yeah cry.gif The only way to avoid is keeping the car at home or installing those special tints for the bumper. I'd rather repaint the car in the coming years wink.gif
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QUOTE(yeahh @ Jun 4 2006, 12:57 PM)
soft99 clay eh??

will try to find for it ...

it will say there ... 'soft99 clay' wan rite??
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Yeap .... SOFT99 ... i dun remember got clay o not:p but u can ask them la ... Eneous has em

QUOTE(satigue @ Jun 4 2006, 01:44 PM)
our sifu is here..... notworthy.gif
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sweat.gif Me oso learning la ... no sifu ... share share nia tongue.gif

QUOTE(satigue @ Jun 4 2006, 01:45 PM)
stono chips very difficult to avoid huh eventhought we keep like 3 cars away from the front car. sad.gif
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It's part of a car's life ma tongue.gif More scars on a man's body last time more manly ... nowadays i even c some guys skin more smooth den girls :-& ... apala .. out of topic pulak tongue.gif

Anyway stonechip are are too avoid la ... sumtimes no matter how careful u r lo ... so we detail and "hide" it as much as we can lorr .... if can't ma ... live wif it lorrr laugh.gif

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Stone chips...live with it, is part of the daily driven car
Swirls .... live with it, is part of your weekly car wash thing


one more thing about clay, once u drop on to the floor. You need to throw it away...
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no la .... keep for rim n tyres lo laugh.gif
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QUOTE(nycs82 @ Jun 4 2006, 02:27 PM)
sweat.gif Me oso learning la ... no sifu ... share share nia tongue.gif
It's part of a car's life ma tongue.gif More scars on a man's body last time more manly ... nowadays i even c some guys skin more smooth den girls :-& ... apala .. out of topic pulak tongue.gif

Anyway stonechip are are too avoid la ... sumtimes no matter how careful u r lo ... so we detail and "hide" it as much as we can lorr .... if can't ma ... live wif it lorrr laugh.gif
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yea....hard to avoid. how to hide it? buy some paint & DIY with brush? or just leave it? leave it long, it will get attack by rust.

QUOTE(lonewolf @ Jun 5 2006, 10:00 AM)
Stone chips...live with it, is part of the daily driven car
Swirls .... live with it, is part of your weekly car wash thing
one more thing about clay, once u drop on to the floor. You need to throw it away...
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yr statement making me confuse. rclxub.gif so if both can't be avoid, then y r we here? unsure.gif
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swirls can be fixed after a good detailing session lor ...

stone chips are best to be touched up wif paint lo ... if dowan DIY ma go to sum detailer n they'll do it up nicely for u ... but alwiz remember ur paint code as well ... bear in mind no matter how the paint will differ a lil esp on aged cars as paint will oxidize as time past so a slight discolouration is expected but not alwiz noticeable by the eye la tongue.gif
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Wanna ask you guys...what's the difference between Meguairs Cleaner Wax, NXT Tech Wax and Gold Class Wax? I just tried out the Cleaner Wax on my car. It really brings out the shine drool.gif
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cleaner wax is sumthing like ColorX but more wax component in it i think ...

But NXT TW and Gold class Wax are both pure wax wif no cleaner elements ... These both differ in terms of chemical content in it ... both have their reputation ...

I heard Gold class bring more gloss ... but so far megs#21 still d one for me thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(nycs82 @ Jun 8 2006, 11:29 PM)
cleaner wax is sumthing like ColorX but more wax component in it i think ...

But NXT TW and Gold class Wax are both pure wax wif no cleaner elements ... These both differ in terms of chemical content in it ... both have their reputation ...

I heard Gold class bring more gloss ... but so far megs#21 still d one for me thumbup.gif
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OOT, but for carbon fibre hoods, will it be more resistant to stone chips?
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QUOTE(egiewan @ Jun 8 2006, 11:32 PM)
So...which one is the best? For weekly waxing purposes la smile.gif Gold Class damn expensive sweat.gif
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Wah ... weekly ka ... u make sure ur paint body clean lo ... eg: do claying 1st ...

I still recommend Megs #21 but NXT Techwax oso not bad ... Gold class of coz good as well laugh.gif ... cleaner wax not much protection also ...

BTW ppl wax for u ka? If not tangan sure patah tongue.gif

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QUOTE(nycs82 @ Jun 9 2006, 06:09 PM)
Wah ... weekly ka ... u make sure ur paint body clean lo ... eg: do claying 1st ...

I still recommend Megs #21 but NXT Techwax oso not bad ... Gold class of coz good as well laugh.gif ... cleaner wax not much protection also ...

BTW ppl wax for u ka? If not tangan sure patah tongue.gif
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Megs #21 is good but it comes in a huge packaging (64 oz which is almost 2 litres). Takes forever to finish and costs about RM 200. Professional line of products so can't get them off the shelf like NXT Gen Tech Wax. Gotta go to Autodetailer or Meguiars suppliers to get it.

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QUOTE(egiewan @ Jun 8 2006, 11:32 PM)
So...which one is the best? For weekly waxing purposes la smile.gif Gold Class damn expensive sweat.gif
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Weekly is probably a bit too much. Try NXT Wax once every 2 months and for the weekly ones you can just do a normal wash and then use NXT Spray Wax.

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QUOTE(nycs82 @ Jun 9 2006, 06:09 PM)
Wah ... weekly ka ... u make sure ur paint body clean lo ... eg: do claying 1st ...

I still recommend Megs #21 but NXT Techwax oso not bad ... Gold class of coz good as well laugh.gif ... cleaner wax not much protection also ...

BTW ppl wax for u ka? If not tangan sure patah tongue.gif
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Weekly is probably a bit too much. Try NXT Wax once every 2 months and for the weekly ones you can just do a normal wash and then use NXT Spray Wax.

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Weekly I think ok la...exercise abit tongue.gif I know someone who waxes his car everyday sweat.gif sweat.gif
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Only people I know who wax cars everyday are the ones that do it for a living. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Sinque @ Jun 9 2006, 11:30 PM)
Only people I know who wax cars everyday are the ones that do it for a living.  biggrin.gif
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No...this fella come to my friend's shop everyday one sweat.gif A green E Class Merc...old uncle driving tongue.gif
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QUOTE(egiewan @ Jun 9 2006, 11:44 PM)
No...this fella come to my friend's shop everyday one sweat.gif A green E Class Merc...old uncle driving tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Sinque @ Jun 9 2006, 08:10 PM)
Weekly is probably a bit too much. Try NXT Wax once every 2 months and for the weekly ones you can just do a normal wash and then use NXT Spray Wax.

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egie .. old uncle got bring young gurl in the car o not? ... Rich daddies nowadays have chun "companions" lerr laugh.gif


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if got, tell the uncle i'm willing to help wax the girl up laugh.gif tongue.gif

jk! biggrin.gif

btw, to do a proper detailing session from ground up.. is it necessary to use dish washing liquid? i mean.. to remove all layer of protection to get to the layer where the scratches/swirls are visible.. after using the dish-wash.. do you clay or use scratch-x? =.="
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QUOTE(Jackie Leong @ Jun 11 2006, 12:00 AM)
if got, tell the uncle i'm willing to help wax the girl up laugh.gif tongue.gif

jk! biggrin.gif

btw, to do a proper detailing session from ground up.. is it necessary to use dish washing liquid? i mean.. to remove all layer of protection to get to the layer where the scratches/swirls are visible.. after using the dish-wash.. do you clay or use scratch-x? =.="
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Why use dish wash liquid? Just use normal liquid lor. After washing, get those water-based tar remover to remove all protection. Start from there lor smile.gif Jackie, dun want to polish ke? unsure.gif
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I only use dish washing liquid to soak my Microfibre cloth (in lukewarm water). Only time dishwashing liquid gets anywhere near my car is when I bring it back home from the department store. biggrin.gif
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Using dishwashing liquid can remove wax but not all...some may still stick to the paint. Better to use tar remover wink.gif
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erm ... a word of caution ... the dish washing liquid will strip a lot more den juz wax ... so best juz stay away frm that la ... IMHO la tongue.gif .. plus its usually a 1 off thing if u use dish liquid ...

normal wash den clay den wash den polish will do wink.gif

Clay removes quite a lot o stuff ... try it to believe it ...
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QUOTE(nycs82 @ Jun 11 2006, 08:47 PM)
erm ... a word of caution ... the dish washing liquid will strip a lot more den juz wax ... so best juz stay away frm that la ... IMHO la tongue.gif .. plus its usually a 1 off thing if u use dish liquid ...

normal wash den clay den wash den polish will do wink.gif

Clay removes quite a lot o stuff ... try it to believe it ...
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Hi guys, a quick question...

If its a new car would it be okay to give it a wash and later apply nxt tech wax to finish it off?

How much different is the nxt tech wax from the nxt spray wax?
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well .... its ok but not very effective lo ... for the wax to last, proper surface prep is really needed ...

Spray wax are usually use between wash n wax ... to put it easier to understand ... after u wax ur car ... coming weeks u juz wash ur car n touch up ur wax wif the spray wax ... coz usually u oni wax ur car once a months or mayb longer ... unless u like egie lo ... got ppl do for him laugh.gif tongue.gif

although new car, it is usually left outside the showroom and rain n sun already done a bit of the damage ... so the best is actually to clean the surface eg: clay den oni u wax lo ...

juz my 2cents ...
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QUOTE(nycs82 @ Jun 17 2006, 09:57 PM)
well .... its ok but not very effective lo ... for the wax to last, proper surface prep is really needed ...

Spray wax are usually use between wash n wax ... to put it easier to understand ... after u wax ur car ... coming weeks u juz wash ur car n touch up ur wax wif the spray wax ... coz usually u oni wax ur car once a months or mayb longer ... unless u like egie lo ... got ppl do for him laugh.gif tongue.gif

although new car, it is usually left outside the showroom and rain n sun already done a bit of the damage ... so the best is actually to clean the surface eg: clay den oni u wax lo ...

juz my 2cents ...
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Ahh, i see i see...

So for the next wax, do i have to remove the first layer of wax i put on or just wash and throw on the new coat of wax?
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QUOTE(nrchy @ Jun 17 2006, 11:08 PM)
Ahh, i see i see...

So for the next wax, do i have to remove the first layer of wax i put on or just wash and throw on the new coat of wax?
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No need to remove...just wax lor. Check for tar first smile.gif
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yea, jealous la got ppl do for egie:) i dun even hv time to wash my car. wat's more claying & waxing.
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yalor ... eh egie .... can pinjam tat service ka? .... i supply the ingredients den u provide the services for me la tongue.gif

my request damn simply oni 1 ...

juz wash den clay den wash den ScratchX den ColorX den Meg#21 den after 6 hrs 2nd layer Meg#21 ... biggrin.gif

den my car can leave for the next 6-10 months d tongue.gif
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QUOTE(nycs82 @ Jun 18 2006, 10:05 PM)
yalor ... eh egie .... can pinjam tat service ka? ....  i supply the ingredients den u provide the services for me la tongue.gif

my request damn simply oni 1 ...

juz wash den clay den wash den ScratchX den ColorX den Meg#21 den after 6 hrs 2nd layer Meg#21 ... biggrin.gif

den my car can leave for the next 6-10 months d tongue.gif
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I do at my friends shop ler. If you wanna supply the ingredients also can. he will charge you for service only la smile.gif
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QUOTE(egiewan @ Jun 18 2006, 10:33 PM)
I do at my friends shop ler. If you wanna supply the ingredients also can. he will charge you for service only la smile.gif
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How much is the service charge first? laugh.gif And where is the shop?

Hey guys, what type of cloths do you use to apply the nxt tech wax?

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How much is the service charge first?  laugh.gif And where is the shop?

Hey guys, what type of cloths do you use to apply the nxt tech wax?
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So how much would they charge if i say egiewan intro punya? laugh.gif
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ehehe .... true true ... depends price ... but also depend they use MF cloths o not tongue.gif ... ahaha ... so far i alwiz lepak JJ but notice those 2 car wash oso never use MF cloth lerr ...

JJ Wangsa Maju? ... which 1? the AutoGlym or the CarSumthing (yellow colour area) ...
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QUOTE(nrchy @ Jun 19 2006, 09:18 AM)
So how much would they charge if i say egiewan intro punya? laugh.gif
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Depends la...must ask him lor tongue.gif

QUOTE(nycs82 @ Jun 19 2006, 09:38 AM)
ehehe .... true true ... depends price ... but also depend they use MF cloths o not tongue.gif ... ahaha ... so far i alwiz lepak JJ but notice those 2 car wash oso never use MF cloth lerr ...

JJ Wangsa Maju? ... which 1? the AutoGlym or the CarSumthing (yellow colour area) ...
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Autoglym one. For normal wipes they wont use MF. MF hard to absorb water ler. Look for Lan or Mie...just tell them what to do. Mie is the expert there...he was trained with other Sunway detailing tauke's as well wink.gif

P/S. They only use MF for detailing jobs wink.gif
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but but ..MG ultimate wipe MF can suck alot of water leh....

anyway...when u guys use scratchX...u use for the whole car?
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QUOTE(lonewolf @ Jun 19 2006, 10:28 AM)
but but ..MG ultimate wipe MF can suck alot of water leh....

anyway...when u guys use scratchX...u use for the whole car?
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ahahaa ... if u got the strength to do so ... no 1 can stop u laugh.gif

For me I oni do certain parts of the car coz by the time i'm done ... i'm half dead ... considering the fact there's ColorX and 2x #21 sessions to come tongue.gif
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Was wondering, will the wax melt if my car expose to sunlight and acid rain 24/7? Since I park my car without shade... unsure.gif
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Was wondering, will the wax melt if my car expose to sunlight and acid rain 24/7? Since I park my car without shade... unsure.gif
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After waxed with MG tech wax, the car is like dust collector... doh.gif
Anyone here do quickdetailing for your ride? How u guys do it? Without using water...As for me, I tend to use MF cloth to wipe away dust 1st but I think I create scratches on the paint..aih.....
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i just bought MG tech wax.......
but, didn't use it yet.....

p/s: Futura, are you sure that after you used that tech wax, ur car become dust collector?
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QUOTE(ali86 @ Jul 17 2006, 07:38 PM)
i just bought MG tech wax.......
but, didn't use it yet.....

p/s: Futura, are you sure that after you used that tech wax, ur car become dust collector?
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same la with tech wax.....
so sad to hear that.....
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I think all wax is like that ler....my car will be dusty too after a few days. Just rinse the dust off and wipe thumbup.gif
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i see......i just bought mine RM90....i think quite expensive if compare in KL...
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QUOTE(ali86 @ Jul 17 2006, 10:55 PM)
i see......i just bought mine RM90....i think quite expensive if compare in KL...
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KL more expensive ler...RM100+++ rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(egiewan @ Jul 17 2006, 11:21 PM)
KL more expensive ler...RM100+++ rclxub.gif
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I've booked this Sat morning for full detailing job at Carnuba Autospa in Glenmarie. Most probably will be there for 4-5 hours. Anybody who wants to drop by and take a look at the process is welcomed.
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KL more expensive ler...RM100+++ rclxub.gif
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gonna try this weekend...
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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Jul 18 2006, 08:20 AM)
I've booked this Sat morning for full detailing job at Carnuba Autospa in Glenmarie. Most probably will be there for 4-5 hours. Anybody who wants to drop by and take a look at the process is welcomed.
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owh CA....my bro always go there to wash and polish his cayenne turbo.....
very2 nice, like you just bought that car leh...
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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Jul 18 2006, 08:20 AM)
I've booked this Sat morning for full detailing job at Carnuba Autospa in Glenmarie. Most probably will be there for 4-5 hours. Anybody who wants to drop by and take a look at the process is welcomed.
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This Sat arh? See first tongue.gif 4-5 hours? Polishing and everything la? thumbup.gif In case I can't come, take some pics yeah? rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(egiewan @ Jul 18 2006, 11:39 AM)
This Sat arh? See first tongue.gif 4-5 hours? Polishing and everything la? thumbup.gif In case I can't come, take some pics yeah? rclxm9.gif
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uncle sleepwalker..prepare to rinse ya car often...those zymol and carbauna based wax will attract dust like magnet..but the good thing is, they will give you good depth shine
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QUOTE(lonewolf @ Jul 18 2006, 04:24 PM)
uncle sleepwalker..prepare to rinse ya car often...those zymol and carbauna based wax will attract dust like magnet..but the good thing is, they will give you good depth shine
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The car is driven everyday and a quick run on the highway would clear most dust.. hahaha.. laugh.gif

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Aiya...'uncle' sleepwalker always drive above 180kph one. All the dust hilang wor laugh.gif Yeah...it does attract a lot of dust...so I rinse my car every 4 days thumbup.gif
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After waxed, the car is not shiny enough...Is there any add-on to improve the glossy look? tongue.gif
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After waxed, the car is not shiny enough...Is there any add-on to improve the glossy look? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Jul 20 2006, 09:50 AM)
It's called polish. Waxing is for protecting. Polish is for shine. You can't wax damaged paint and expect it to gloss like brand new car. You'd need a good polish and maintain by monthly waxing.
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I just got my car like 2 weeks ago tongue.gif
Will send it to polish maybe half year later...prolly will DIY polish but don't have the skill and tools for it hehe...
I heard about MG #21, which is very expensive and sold in bulk??...perhaps I should stick to the NXT speed detailer for final finishing for the moment...
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QUOTE(Futura @ Jul 20 2006, 10:41 AM)
I just got my car like 2 weeks ago  tongue.gif
Will send it to polish maybe half year later...prolly will DIY polish but don't have the skill and tools for it hehe...
I heard about MG #21, which is very expensive and sold in bulk??...perhaps I should stick to the NXT speed detailer for final finishing for the moment...
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New car does not mean it shines. The original layer of paint needs a good polish to shine. A lot of people makes the mistake of thinking that the best shine is on a new car. That is incorrect unless the manufacturer does a good job at polishing it before delivering it to you. Do to any car paint shop and watch how they respray cars. Even after the overcoat/clearcoat is sprayed on, the car does not shine until it is polished kau kau. My car is 3.5 years old and you can see that it shine even more than some cars <see signature>.

Edit: If you plan to do polishing, send it to somewhere good. Forget DIY. You'd end up killing the paint. I'd be doing my detailing this weekend and you can drop by to visit if you want.

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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Jul 20 2006, 10:52 AM)
New car does not mean it shines. The original layer of paint needs a good polish to shine. A lot of people makes the mistake of thinking that the best shine is on a new car. That is incorrect unless the manufacturer does a good job at polishing it before delivering it to you. Do to any car paint shop and watch how they respray cars. Even after the overcoat/clearcoat is sprayed on, the car does not shine until it is polished kau kau. My car is 3.5 years old and you can see that it shine even more than some cars <see signature>.

Edit: If you plan to do polishing, send it to somewhere good. Forget DIY. You'd end up killing the paint. I'd be doing my detailing this weekend and you can drop by to visit if you want.
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Wow, now only I saw it as previously I turned off the siggy settings. Impressive shine and well taken care of...btw where you do your detailing?
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QUOTE(Futura @ Jul 20 2006, 11:16 AM)
Wow, now only I saw it as previously I turned off the siggy settings. Impressive shine and well taken care of...btw where you do your detailing?
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I've posted that a few replies back, in the previous page. Going to Autospa this Saturday.
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post Jul 21 2006, 11:04 PM

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actually i find that the MyVi paint work isnt that good especially the roof of car.. anyone agree?
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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Jul 20 2006, 11:20 AM)
I've posted that a few replies back, in the previous page. Going to Autospa this Saturday.
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dude, how much for a session? might check out yr ride. then can tumpang test power? brows.gif tongue.gif Sub wohhh...STI?

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QUOTE(satigue @ Jul 25 2006, 02:43 PM)
dude, how much for a session? might check out yr ride. then can tumpang test power? brows.gif tongue.gif Sub wohhh...STI?
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RM1550 for a package of 3 full detailing sessions. Individual sessions would cost about RM700 without the package.

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QUOTE(DreMAx @ Jul 21 2006, 11:04 PM)
actually i find that the MyVi paint work isnt that good especially the roof of car.. anyone agree?
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my colleague 1 is silver colour and she complain paint at the roof isn't that even and she has send back to respray...
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Autospa service quality so so oni ... remember to inspect the details when u pay so much tongue.gif
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QUOTE(nycs82 @ Jul 27 2006, 11:29 AM)
Autospa service quality so so oni ... remember to inspect the details when u pay so much tongue.gif
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Autospa is okay la actually...some people complain about their services but hey...no one is perfect smile.gif Wanna do my first polish with Autospa soon. sleepwalker can help me get discount? whistling.gif rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Jul 26 2006, 10:30 PM)
RM1550 for a package of 3 full detailing sessions. Individual sessions would cost about RM700 without the package.
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whow! tht's a lot of $. even if i can afford also, i'll think twice about going there. i m sure yr ride looks superb now. any pics to share? or u just can pay our DIY king nysc82, he can detail for u for half the price using meguiars thumbup.gifbiggrin.gif

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yeah. $1550 can buy alot of polish/wax stuff. can DIY and learn by urself.
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QUOTE(eddyann @ Jul 27 2006, 03:12 PM)
yeah. $1550 can buy alot of polish/wax stuff. can DIY and learn by urself.
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It's full detailing.. not just polish and wax. I can't steam clean my seats from home. I can't do pre-polish treatment at home. I don't have running water at home.. I live in an apartment.
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For the car u have ... takper la tongue.gif ... ucan afford the car of coz can afford the pampering sessions laugh.gif

for those who can afford den go spa lor .. for those cant afford ma buy those products off the shelf and spa at your home toilet lorr laugh.gif

since when i become DIY detailing king? laugh.gif me oso amature la ... learning oso tongue.gif ...
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there's this car detailer/spa in bandar baru klang as well .. i cant remember the name. .. has anyone tried it b4?
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try the 1 in seksyen 14 ... near dutch lady 1 ... Autodetailers ...
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nysc82, is this the place where they always hv detailing workshop for car clubs? btw, where is this meguiars agent in USJ 1 huh? care to tell me the way there?
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i just did my simple detailing today. spend some 4 and a half hours and this is how it turned out

btw how do i make the car shine better??? i only use the soft 99 polish once only then let the polish settle down then only i waxed.. any ideaS?

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you don't need to wait for polish to settle down..

eveytime u did a polish..u need to use sealants/wax to cover again. it not ya paint is not protected
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Anyone polish their engine lol?
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Anyone polish their engine lol?
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just a simple clean up engine compartment area YES..

do remember someone here did use WD40 and elbow grease to clean up his engine bay. rclxms.gif
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Yo guys, im currently using turtle wax (the paste type). Is it good?
does this kinda wax makes my paint thinner everytime i wax it?
should i use polymer base wax?

and 1 more thing, will washing the car with car shampoo wash away the wax also??

sorry car detailing noob here. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(man_utd @ Jan 20 2007, 09:53 AM)
Yo guys, im currently using turtle wax (the paste type). Is it good?
does this kinda wax makes my paint thinner everytime i wax it?
should i use polymer base wax?

and 1 more thing, will washing the car with car shampoo wash away the wax also??

sorry car detailing noob here. tongue.gif
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the Turtle Wax( paste type ) is so so, but can't conplaint much coz it affordable. Next round, go try out SOFT99 Rain-HOP or Fussco Coat. No it will not make your paint thinner. Polymer base is long lasting than carbauna waxes, but the depth carbauna is better. car shampoo usually doesn't strip the wax that much, it does but just little only.
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QUOTE(lonewolf @ Jan 20 2007, 10:57 AM)
the Turtle Wax( paste type ) is so so, but can't conplaint much coz it affordable. Next round, go try out SOFT99 Rain-HOP or Fussco Coat. No it will not make your paint thinner. Polymer base is long lasting than carbauna waxes, but the depth carbauna is better. car shampoo usually doesn't strip the wax that much, it does but just little only.
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How much approximately does SOFT99 Rain-HOP and Fussco Coat cost?

can u guys recommend the best medium range wax (non Meguiars product)?? smile.gif
cant go hardcore on detailing la... dun have enuf cash for that....

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S99 Rain Hop = RM 25.80
S99 Fusso Coat = RM 18.50

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Hi guys. I'm a passive member of Lowyat.net ( read up a lot, contribute sero, heheh ). Well, on to car detailing. If you guys are interested to get your car / bike detailed ( exterior only at the moment ), I can detail 'em for ya. Sundays only though. Please do check out my blog for more details : My Personal Detailing Blog.

Don't worry, I only use Meguiar's! All the way from the wash mitt, to MFs, washign solution, polish and wax too! And polishing work is done via a Bosch dual orbiter machine, assisted with one of MG's Professional range of cleaner / polish. blush.gif


Added on February 13, 2007, 3:04 pmPaintwork nowadays is very advanced, and usually, the type of clearcoat used on a car is pretty strong, either new car or freshly repainted car. As long as you don't paint your car under the ketapang tree shop ( or the cost of paintng your car is more than 20% cheaper than market prices ), the quality of paints used should ensure that the clearcoat is of good quality.

If you want the best paintwork for your car, this is the only brand to go : Glasurit. And make sure the colour is from the Glasurit high solids range ( quicker drying time between coats, and stronger too ), and the clearcoat is Glasurit Type HS.

I'm sorry to say that your statement here is wrong. Yes, the type of polish sold in the yesteryears contains a high amount of abrasives. These abrasives is the one that levels up your clearocat, therefore in the same time, the scratches are removed.

QUOTE(lonewolf @ May 26 2006, 10:15 AM)
some recommend every six month, but it still depends on the surface condition. If u do maintain ya car like waxing every month at least twice, park under shade most of the time..you only need to do the polishing one a year. Remember, polishing will make ya paint thinner, so too much is bad for the paint.

Most of the forummers here DIY during the freetime, its a good body workout.
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Nowadays, most polish sold is not as abrasive as the ones sold years ago, and some of them is pure polish. Pure polish here, as in, it'll only feed the important oils and polymers back into the paintwork ( which will help the paintwork to regain it's shine again ), and shines up the paintwork, and only contains very, very slight amount of paint cleaner. In this case, you may have to use a dedicated paint cleaner before the polishing part. You might ask : what's a paint cleaner? Sometimes when we wash our car, there might be some black film stikcing to the car even after washing. This black film is removed with the help of a dedicated paint cleaner. And no, none of these items ( either the paint cleaner or the pure polish ) will reduce the sight of scratches on your car. It'll only hide 'em ( via filling them up with the pure polish ) temporarily, and these scratches will come back in about a month or so.

The type of products I use is very2 safe, so safe until I can use it monthly for at least, 3 years on a minimum. This is because Meguiar's products, especially the Professional range, employs what they call as, Diminishing Abrasives. The abrasives contained in MG's Professional range works to reduce or completely remove the scratches, but it will soon break down and becomes a pure polish.

I'm sorry to say that, a lot of products sold here is full of bull. Once A Year Polish? Pah! Wax that can last one year? Pah!



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you really MG fan... icon_rolleyes.gif
ever tried other products?
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Yes, like :

- Once A Year Polish
- Soft 99
- Turtle Wax
- Mothers
- Black Ice
- Zaino
- Featherlite

None of the items above works as promised ( removing swirls etc ), Zaino is overhyped. I've spent almost RM1k on Zaino stuffs, but they're not better than MG, since Zaino is marketed as the higher range of vehicle detailing stuffs. I spend the same amount of money and I get better results, and with the correct maintenance work, the car / bike stays nice, shiny and protected for a minimum of one month ( for a car that's parked outside, 24/7, and spends at least 10 hours a day parked right beside one of the major roads in KL )

I'm staying with MG because it works. And MG have their own forum, and this is where you learn on how to really use MG's stuffs.

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but don't you think MG is also overhype as well?..as in the prices that we are paying in Malaysia is kinda high. Ever try Klasse?..

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poyo, u can detail my car? how much and where?
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hi guys, any 1 here done the 3 layer polish in any car detailing center b4?

does it really remove scratch or see condition 1?

autospa quote me RM180
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Klasse? Sorry, Klasse, Swissvax ( or Swissol ) etc, they only HIDE the scratches and swirls, which will reappear after a couple of sessions of heavy rain ( normal here in our country ) or after a couple of car wash sessions.

And no, to me, Meguiar's is not overhyped. Because they do ask and listen from their customers ( via their own forum, and proven as for this year, they're bringing in one of the older product which was rendered obsolete a year before! ), and their product works as advertised! And if you get the chance to learn on how to use these myriad of MG's stuffs, you'll find that they'll work just fine.

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but don't you think MG is also overhype as well?..as in the prices that we are paying in Malaysia is kinda high. Ever try Klasse?..
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Added on February 17, 2007, 1:19 pmCan, not a problem. Do check out my blog : My Personal Detailing Blog. You'll find all the details and my e-mail address there as well, and also check out my work and the steps / process taken.

Location is Central KL, to be exact, Jalan Tun Razak. Be warned that I only do on Sundays though. I also offer monthly detailing + maintenance package as well. Pricing - wise, I need to know what car ( so can judge the size ) and I also need to see the car myself so that I know what kind of work and how long it'll take. Only then I can give you the correct price quote lah.

QUOTE(giggs_509 @ Feb 16 2007, 08:06 AM)
poyo, u can detail my car? how much and where?
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Added on February 17, 2007, 1:42 pmThis is one of the infamous "packages" that a few car detailing centre offers. Although they have a very nice shop, got sofas, aircond waiting rooms, plus TV, and free flowing soft drinks, coffee and tea, it doesn't assure you that you'll get what you were really after ( in this case, your car to look good lah ).

What do they mean by 3 layer polish? If I'm not wrong, you cannot layer polish on your car, as it is absorbed into the paintwork's myriad of small pores ( just like our skin ) and after the car's paintwork is somewhat level ( that is, most of these small pores is now filled with polish, and that the important oils in the polish have been successfully introduced and seep into the paintwork ), only then it'll shine to it's best potential lah. The you must seal the work with a wax or sealant, or else it won't shine, reflect, and bead water to it's maximum ( a wax / sealant helps a lot in this area ).

And RM 180, to remove even at least 10% of swirls, plus washing, claying, paint cleaning ( does the package comes with this two services too? I doubt it. ), polishing and finally applying wax / sealant is too cheap. If your car is a Kenari, then this is THE price I'll offer you for a full exterior detailing work lah. But a large shop? Ek, no way! For the price they quote to you, no, the service will never remove any swils on your car, only hiding 'em temporarily.

And I've seen a lot of cars exiting this (@rnauba outlet at Jln Tun Razak with major swirls and holograms...I'm not flaming this particular place, but everytime I'm on my way home ( my work place is only 5 minutes drive away from this shop ), I always make it a point to check out the cars at that shop....and it's sad to see the quality of their work. I have also seen, up close and personal, the staff who is responsible for the polishing job. The way he handled the rotary machine was scary! And no finishing work followed after the rotary work, simply wipe off then other staffs waxed the car immediately. Sheesh!

If you really want to get your car's exterior detailed, you can either :
- send your car to Autodetailer, SS2 PJ ( the only vehicle detailing shop that I will recommend ) and be prepared to pay at least, RM 400 ( that is, if your car is not larger than a 3 Series / C Class lah. larger cars than these two will cost more than RM 400! ).
- or, send your car to me! Less prices, and at least, 50% improvement overall! Only problem is, I only do on Sundays....

QUOTE(hk_loo @ Feb 16 2007, 08:30 AM)
hi guys, any 1 here done the 3 layer polish in any car detailing center b4?

does it really remove scratch or see condition 1?

autospa quote me RM180
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Agreed ... if u cant do it properly by urself ... send to some1 capable of doing a good job ...

Poyo ... not bad ah ur work notworthy.gif ... laugh.gif

Yeap .. I would also agree tat autospa is crappy n the service there is not as good as it is. I would also recommend autodetailer in SS2. Learnt a lot of detailing tips from them in another forum. smile.gif
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QUOTE(poyo @ Feb 13 2007, 02:41 PM)

Added on February 13, 2007, 3:04 pmPaintwork nowadays is very advanced, and usually, the type of clearcoat used on a car is pretty strong, either new car or freshly repainted car. As long as you don't paint your car under the ketapang tree shop ( or the cost of paintng your car is  more than 20% cheaper than market prices ), the quality of paints used should ensure that the clearcoat is of good quality.
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Poyo, need your advice here. My car is 3 months old, have had no wax or polish session before. No noticeable swirls or scratches as far as I can tell (just 1 scratch on the bonnet). What should I do to maintain the shine of the paintjob? The car is parked mostly indoors. I planned to go for a waxing session once every 3-4 months without polishing since there are no noticeable scratches, but Autospa told me that I have to go for a polish session first to 'smooth' out the paint, then maintain it with regular waxing.

Any advice?
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Thanks for your compliments. One thing I learn on how to do a good work is :
Treat your customer's cars like your own!

If you can afford it and want your car to be 100% flawless, AutoDetailer SS2 is the only place to go. If you can only afford 40 - 50% lesser price than AutoDetailer, then come to me ( shameless plug )!

QUOTE(nycs82 @ Feb 20 2007, 06:34 PM)
Agreed ... if u cant do it properly by urself ... send to some1 capable of doing a good job ...

Poyo ... not bad ah ur work notworthy.gif ... laugh.gif

Yeap .. I would also agree tat autospa is crappy n the service there is not as good as it is. I would also recommend autodetailer in SS2. Learnt a lot of detailing tips from them in another forum. smile.gif
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Added on February 21, 2007, 1:00 pmAllright, lemme straighten something up : No way that your car doesn't have ANY swirls. It does have some. Even mine got a few, but at least it's not so noticable, even in direct sunlight.

Ok, to maintain the quality of the paintwork on your car is simple : go for a full detail ( wash, clay, reduce those REALLY glaring scratches, polish and wax / sealant ). And do it often, like at least once a month. And wash your car weekly, a minimum. Or if got time, twice a week.

Rather than you going to that (@rnauba - sh!t - sh0p, come to me instead! I've said this once and I'll say it again. Everytime I go to work, or on my way home, I will pass their shop. I have also seen up close and personal, how the Bangla, or Vietcong boys polish cars with quite an abrasive stuff, with a ROTARY ( and the assh0le really doesn't know how to use the rotary properly ), and no FOLLOW - UP work with a dual action orbiter with a less stronger abrasive polish. Oh yeah, cars detailed by that (@rnauba - sh!t - sh0p looks shiny at their shop with all those bright lights, but take a good, 2nd look in direct, hot afternoon sunlight. You will see that the there will be holograms! Yuck! And what about swirls? Eeeuuwwww...

A number of my workshop boy's customers cars ( a few M3s, one M5 to say the least ) is detailed by them. Yes, the cars look shiny, but my car, when parked side to side and in direct sunlight, have lesser visible swirls compared to the cars sent to that (@rnauba - sh!t - sh0p! I got no holograms, but they got quite a few! And they pay RM 1700++ monthly for : 1 full detail work and countless washes. Well, I did try to bid their business, but since they can't leave their cars with me for days ( they do leave their cars at that (@rnauba - sh!t - sh0p for about 3 days or so when they go for full detail, when the work takes only a max of 8 hours ), I couldn't get it.

There are 3 types of polish ( that I know of ) :
- abrasive polish ( to smoothen out scratches / swirls ).
- abrasive polish with diminishing properties ( like MG's stuffs that I use. It will 1st smoothen out the body panels, then, under a minute or so, the soft abrasives in the polish with break down and become pure polishing oils instead, works well and is extremely safe ).
- pure polish ( will NEVER level out the swirls / scratches on the car, it will ONLY fill them in and the swirls / scratches will revela themselves in a couple of washes )

You can get swirls / scratches by :
- leaning / sitting on your car,
- buffing something off the car via a tissue, cloth, your own hands etc,
- rinsing, washing and drying your car ( when you are not doing the best possible way to reduce the chances of instilling swirls / scratches )
- when parking your car in a tight spot. The fella who parked his car beside you might accidently brush your car with his shopping bags ( yes, those heavy, filled with groceries plastic bags can scratch your paintwork! ), or worse, might swipe your car with his jeans ( those reddish buttons on your jeans? Oopppss! )
- driving. The car / lorry / bike / truck might be using softer compound tyres, and stones will stick on these type of tyres and fly off to you.
- when parking your car outside. Sometimes, some areas are "trapped" between taller / larger buildings. During strong winds, the areas lower, or trapped between taller and larger buildings will get that "mini tornado effect". Have you seen dusts and dried leaves swirling around in one spot? Imagine those swirling stones, dusts and dried leaves around your car? Voila, free scratches!

You will get swirls and scratches on your vehicles, it's something we can't avoid and something we have to live with. Best way to handle it is : do the best we can to reduce the chance of instilling MORE swirls / scratches, and do safe, repeatable remedy work that will safely remove, to some extend, these swirls and scratches and in the same time, not buffing too much clearcoat until the paintwork becomes too thin.

I'm not saying that I'm a pro in detailing, but I have learned a lot of detailing and now, I can detail the exterior of cars and bikes, reduce the appearance of swirls and scratches until they are about, at the minimum, 40 - 50% gone, and the car shines, reflects with good clarity and depth, and also, the wet - look! biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Dannyl @ Feb 21 2007, 10:43 AM)
Poyo, need your advice here.  My car is 3 months old, have had no wax or polish session before.  No noticeable swirls or scratches as far as I can tell (just 1 scratch on the bonnet).  What should I do to maintain the shine of the paintjob?  The car is parked mostly indoors.  I planned to go for a waxing session once every 3-4 months without polishing since there are no noticeable scratches, but Autospa told me that I have to go for a polish session first to 'smooth' out the paint, then maintain it with regular waxing. 

Any advice?
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lol, same as CARS in MV, 100 of lights to shoot the car and looks damn shining...those ladies owner must be damn proud...


poyo, those polish product from MG and scratch x claim to be safe clearcoat...but as i know scratch x MG can remove those minor scratch permanently right?

so it means remove scratch means remove 1 layer right?

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clsiluf,

Do not worry when it comes to Meguiar's stuffs. From my own personal experience, it is safe for clearcoats AND single - stage paintwork as well.

The word "safe" here, means : it is safe to use the product to reduce or completely remove the scratch / swirls BUT they will not add additional "tiny" scratches, and will not make the paintwork area worked in with the said MG's product, become dull, like a number of products easily available at your friendly hardware shop / hypermarket / supermarket etc.

And do not worry about using any MG's stuffs on your car, as it will never dull, or work in too much of your car's clearcoat!

Check out my own personal detailing service blog to see for yourself. Yesterday, I added a short blog on one of my customer's car ( got scratches, a whole hog of 'em! ), that's a fine example of how good AND safe Meguiar's stuff is.

QUOTE(clsiluf @ Feb 24 2007, 12:10 PM)
lol, same as CARS in MV, 100 of lights to shoot the car and looks damn shining...those ladies owner must be damn proud...
poyo, those polish product from MG and scratch x claim to be safe clearcoat...but as i know scratch x MG can remove those minor scratch permanently right?

so it means remove scratch means remove 1 layer right?
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wa..nice car...
wat brand is this car?..
sorry for asking so noob questuion
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for me i did the polish and wax thingy b4 CNY, the shine is good. but my fren did that b4 and and accd to him, his car wont hav water spot after rain, mine got....i tink the quality of the products used is diff..

btw i dun c ur plate number redbox,u cabut b4 taking photo?

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QUOTE(kahheng @ Mar 24 2007, 01:48 AM)
for me i did the polish and wax thingy b4 CNY, the shine is good. but my fren did that b4 and and accd to him, his car wont hav water spot after rain, mine got....i tink the quality of the products used is diff..

btw i dun c ur plate number redbox,u cabut b4 taking photo?
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ya, what product u use?

turtle wax or meguiars?
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doesn't have water spot doesn't mean the product is useless. Different product works different.

Like Polymer/ Acrylic base, it sheets water rather than bead...while the carbauna beads waters..

Some ppl like water sheet, some like water bead. It's all preference...

this is what i did to my car 3 months ago
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QUOTE(clsiluf @ Feb 24 2007, 12:10 PM)
lol, same as CARS in MV, 100 of lights to shoot the car and looks damn shining...those ladies owner must be damn proud...
poyo, those polish product from MG and scratch x claim to be safe clearcoat...but as i know scratch x MG can remove those minor scratch permanently right?

so it means remove scratch means remove 1 layer right?
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those CAR's are all crap place. Anyway, back to scratchX. To cover those spider web scratches. There is only 2 way how does a product work.

The first is fillers, like Swirl Remover 2.0. It has alot of fillers that fill the gap on the scratches. It will look great when you just done ya waxing and polish. but after a new washes, the swirl will be back as the fillers is removed.

The 2nd method, is by removing a clear coat from the paint. Thus, your paint will become thinner. By using such product, you will get a clean FRESH surface for waxing, that why the outcome is GREAT!!!..

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please can sifu tell me where to buy klasse AIO + SG. Really want to try this stuff...so far know only singapore selling...

also fusso coat vs rain-hop...what is the difference?

my plan is:

1. wash
2. clay
3. clean....(soft99 meta-clean)
4. polish...(klasse AIO)
5. seal......(klasse SG)
6. coat......(fusso coat?)

if want to use swirlX...when? between 3-4? thanks.
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rain-hop if not mistaken is old product. The new one now is Fusso Coat..

Your step 3 and 4 is actually the same. you just need to do either one. as far as i know ScratchX is usually not use for the whole car.

your method is what i was trying to do as well, but i didn't coz i can't do layering for SG later on.

Klasse you can get from car wash SS2, same row as perodua showroom.
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thanks...u da man...


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if the surface of the paint is rough like abit sandpaper feel, the only way to overcome it, is claying ? which brand would be best to deal with it , from budget range product . thanks
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any brand of clay will do...if your in budget, you can try PERMAGLASS clay or SOFT99 clay..
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okay, noob question here, can i apply 3 or 4 layer or Meg's Gold class wax?
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you an..but is abit waste in my opinion..1 is already sufficient enuff...detailing is not how many layer you lay on the car..is more on how often you do ya car detailing that counts..

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coz i only got both gold class wax and wash, i dont have the NTX,
damn these stuff is expensive!

just wash and apply 1 layer of wax then enough? but i saw on the ealier post that ppl said appying up to 7 layer??!!
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you dun need up to 7 layers of wax ohmy.gif ...you only need to do that if your car is a show car.. laugh.gif ...

just stick with the basic rule...clay when is needed, prep the surface before you seal with wax/sealent....

Just for ya info..NXT is not that great anyway.. doh.gif..overhype marketing..

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are there any cheap and cheerful clay around? i dont think i will clay so soon coz is a new car
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because it is new that you should take care. anyways, do a test on your paint surface after a car wash la. get a cigarette plastic, put your hand in the plastic and just feel you car's surface. if you feel dots, those are bonded contaminants. that means you should clay before waxing.
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QUOTE(lonewolf @ May 1 2007, 10:42 PM)
any brand of clay will do...if your in budget, you can try PERMAGLASS clay or SOFT99 clay..
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yea but the problem is hard to find those clay , today went to brothers puchong branch ask them about soft 99 clay bar they can ask me back "what is that" blink.gif
bro lonewolf mind telling me where else i can get it beside eneos ?

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you can try MIDVALLEY jusco, there got SOFT99 clay..

Brothers..i think u need to go to Kelana Jaya branch, is located on the top floor on the alley side..dun bother to ask those workers in brothers, they are security rather than selling their stuffs..
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QUOTE(hz428 @ May 2 2007, 12:10 AM)
are there any cheap and cheerful clay around? i dont think i will clay so soon coz is a new car
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for me, is better to clay every time before u wax...

dun go to Brothers except no choice...

they selling at higher price with stupid service...

last time the SOFT99 clay in jusco cheras even got 10% diskaun....

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icic, thanks alot~
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Guys, anybody try this before? Like Teflon on your car. No need to wax. I'm curious on it.
http://www.shinenshield.com/
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hi! I'm new here. 1st time car driver. Going to get my car soon. I'm going to buy red color metallic but my friend advice me not to coz 1st my place don't have shade make the color fade very fast. 2nd, i need to really take care of it like wax, polish...

how often i need to do it? my fren say got skill one.... how much is the service charge in average?

What do i need to do to maintain the glossiness of my car color at the same time it won't fade so much over the years?

thks!
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abt a 2month now, my review on NTX and GC wax is

NTX.
more shine ( good for dark colour)
not durable ( 3 or 4 rains will wash everything, my case 1 heavy rain kao tim)

GC
more durable
more depth



conclusion
everythning has its good and bad


optimal solution for both
1.wash
2.clay (soft 99)
3.wash.
4.dry
5.apply NTX, (apply whole car 1st then wait till dry, then buff)
6. let it cure for 6 to 24 hour
7.rinse
8.dry
9apply GC wax( apply softly else NTX will rip off)
10 buff.
11. sit back and watch ur car, drool~


Added on June 13, 2007, 3:12 pmand top up with GC wax every time u wash ur car

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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Jul 6 2007, 07:20 AM)
hi guys... i thinking to DIY myself...

i consider on
Meguiar's Deep Crystal System Paint Cleaner (Step 1)
Meguiar's Deep Crystal System Polish (Step 2)
Meguiar's Deep Crystal System Carnauba Wax (Step 3)
Meguiar's Quik Clay Detailing System

or

Meguair Smooth Surface Clay Kit
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What the difference if compare with my "package" and the Smooth Surface Clay Kit?

And, what the obvious difference if i DIY with Meguiar product myself compare and done by AutoSpa&AutoDetailer?
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Those DCS steps are for polishing; the clay kits are for claying. Ur package has the polishing parts in it vs the clay kit only.


Added on July 6, 2007, 10:02 am
QUOTE(hz428 @ May 2 2007, 12:10 AM)
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Soft 99.. about $26.90

QUOTE(MtV @ May 2 2007, 09:16 PM)
yea but the problem is hard to find those clay , today went to brothers puchong branch ask them about soft 99 clay bar they can ask me back "what is that"  blink.gif
bro lonewolf mind telling me where else i can get it beside eneos ?
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Brothers Kelana Jaya. I bought mine there. thumbup.gif

Kedai Abang is where I got it .... it`s RM2 cheaper than Eneos. If u go to the Abang in Kelana Jaya, go up the staircase, turn right then left (so u`re in the center between the shelves) move to the 2nd pillar in the middle. That`s where u`ll find a load of Soft 99 Jap products. The clay bar is there. The staffs there may not know what a clay bar is ... but those who do call it "sabun". Go figure. - according to kenneth@myviclub

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