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post Aug 18 2004, 02:38 PM, updated 16y ago

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I wrote a short write-up on how I polished and maintained my car a while back but that thread must have been purged. Recently someone had asked about polish/wax/clean car so I thought I would share my experiences with you.

The very first time I did this, the whole process I think took me more than 10 hours if I remember correctly. After I 'perfected' the process tongue.gif I now spend a good 6 hours or so to get that perfect shine. Anyway here goes...

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Some of the products used:
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Step 1: Wash car
The very first time I did this, I used a dishwashing liquid. Now I know what you're thinking, that's nuts but I would only do this one time to make sure I get all the grime/oil/dirt off the paint of the car. I used Dawn blue which seems to be recommended most of the time. Remember you do not want to use this regularly which is why I only did this once. You can use a regular car wash liquid if you are not comfortable doing this. But the goal here is to remove as much foreign contamination so the coat of polish can seal the paint properly.

Don't just use any old rags to wash your car. You'll be sorry. I buy a special sheepskin wash mitts to avoid fine scratches during washing. It's plush and gentle on the paint of your car. Wash your wheels first. I use a wheel cleaning brush that can reach into the spoke of the wheels to properly remove dirt and all.

Step 2: Clay
After washing off all the dishwashing liquid, I start the claying process. You do not have to dry your car first. Prepare a spray bottle that contain water/car wash liquid to use as lubricant. Claying is easy but you have to be careful or you will end up scratching your paint. Why clay? The clay as your rub over the paint of your car will pick up any additional grime/dirt/tar/bird droppings/etc from the paint. Your local car parts store should have this.

Here's how you do it. Spray an area with the water/car wash liquid mixture. Kneed a small piece of clay (that you can hold comfortably with your fingers and not drop it) and rub it over the sprayed area. For the top area of the car, use a front/back motion and for the side area of the car, use an up/down motion. Rub over the same area until you feel it going over the paint smoothly. Spray more lubricant if needed. Remember to kneed the clay after so many passes as you do not want the stuff that it picks up to scratch other paint area that you are claying. If you happen to drop it on the floor, THROW it AWAY. Do not try to use it again. It will now have dirt stuck to it from the floor and you will end up scratching your car. It's not worth trying to save a few bucks over your $$$ car. I went over every inch of the paint that I can get to with the clay.

Step 3: Rewash car
This time, use a normal car wash liquid to wash off any clay residual.

Step 4: Dry Car
I use a soft silicon squeege and run it over car to remove water quickly. To finish the drying, use a 100% cotton plush towel to complete the job. Before going forward, I inspect the paint and remove any minor scratches with Meguiars ScratchX.

Step 5: Quick detail before applying polish
I use Zaino Z6 Gloss Enhancer to quick detail the car. Spray on and wipe off with a new clean 100% cotton towel. This will remove any water spot and leave the paint smooth.

Step 6: First coat of polish
I use Zaino Z5 with ZFX to provide a faster drying time. You can use a product of your choice. Use a clean polish applicator pad and squeeze a dime size polish on the applicator pad. Polish a small area in circular motion and on top area of the car, finish with a front/back motion and on side area of the car, finish with up/down motion. This is recommended by the polish manufacturer to enhance the optical property of the polish. Z5 is suppose to further reduced swirl marks and fine hairline scratches from the paint. Wait 30 minutes to dry. (Follow the instructions of your polish product if you use a different product)

Step 7: Clean windows/interior
While waiting for the polish to dry, I take the time to clean the windows and interior of the car. I used RainX and Stoner Invisible glass product for the windows/glass, 303 Aerospace Protectant for dashboard/vinyl/plastic interior, leather care product for leather parts. Since there are multiple drying times, I tend to split the interior detailing between the drying times.

Step 8: Buff and apply second coat
After it has dried, use another clean 100% cotton towel and buff off dried polish. For the second coat, I use Zaino Z2 with ZFX. Same method as first coat.

Step 9: Buff and apply third coat
Again, after the second coat has dried, buff off with a clean 100% cotton towel. By now, the car has that truely wet shine that you'll love. wink.gif

Step 10: Final quick detail
After removing all the polish, I quick detail the car again with a shot of Zaino Z6 to make sure I removed all polish residual and to give the paint that extra shine. At this step, I also apply Meguiars High Gloss Gel to the car tires to give it that shine.

Step 11: Finish
This is the most satisfying part of the whole process. Step back and admire your work. Get a cold drink (non-alcohol wink.gif) and inspect the car. Get your keys ready as you know you just want to jump in and take it for a joy ride!!! smile.gif


That's it. You're done. To summarize, what you want to do is:

Wash, Clay, Wash, dry, quick detail, polish, buff, polish, buff, polish, buff, quick detail. I specify the product that I used in writing this but by all means use a product of your choice. Always remember to read the instructions and follow them especially mixing, applying and drying times. But other than that, it should be pretty straight forward. The reason I went with Zaino or a polymer based polish is I do not want to use a product with rubbing compound. I would only use that if there is oxidation on the paint and I absolutely have to rub it off. Hope this helps anyone who wants to get their car looking great! Have a great day and enjoy your car. smile.gif smile.gif

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The product that I used is suppose to be able to protect up to 9 months or so. So I only have to do this about 2 times a year. Other times, wash as needed, dry, quick detail and I have that shine back. Easy... smile.gif If I am in the mood I will wash, clay, wash, dry, and quick detail without applying the 3 layers of polish. Read the instructions on the product you are using. smile.gif


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Some pictures after all the hard work:
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post Aug 18 2004, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE (d@id @ Aug 18 2004, 04:44 AM)
hrmm

don't polish too much
only recommended 6 month once, polishing makes your clear coat goes thinner and thinner. its bad.


after polish apply a layer or two of wax like the meguairs polymer wax for non dark color paint and the meguairs hi-tech yellow wax for the dark paint. this is for the protection.

d@id,

That is the reason why I chose a polymer based polish. What you mentioned is probably for people that uses some type of rubbing compound. I'm glad you brought this up as I will add it to my notes. The polish that I use is suppose to protect up to 9 months. I only have to do this like maybe 2 times a year or 3 if I really feel like it.

Other times, I would only have to do a quick wash, dry, quick detail and it's goood to go. And there is also nothing to apply after the process above. The 3 layers is the protection and the shine. I am not sure if it is available in M'sia but you can check it out at www.zainostore.com.


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post Aug 19 2004, 12:24 AM

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I would agree that wax will do a better shine. Syntetic wax I think will not look as good as carnauba wax on top but as I have read carnauba wax will thin off from the sun. Syntetic wax nowadays also offer the same paint protection but you are right in that you will get a better shine with the carnauba wax on top of the syntetic wax. I like my car to look good but having to apply it more often, I probably will get lazy on it. tongue.gif On top of that I wanted it to shine but not to the point of watery/slivery shine as then basically all you see is the shine, not like looking at a high gloss color paint. Hope that makes sense. smile.gif I am sure most of you have seen dark color looking car especially black that looks shiny to the point where you go wow over the shine but then you really don't notice the colors any more. It may be just me.... tongue.gif

Ditto on the tire shine. Too shiny and it looks fake. I want it to obtain a certain high gloss clean shine but not too fake. laugh.gif

If I get another car, I would probably try your method. I will hate to change method in the middle of it. But to answer your question, when I say polish I don't mean thining off a layer to make it look good but I want the polymer to form a layer of high optical property that seals the paint and protect it.


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post Aug 19 2004, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE (d@id @ Aug 18 2004, 12:18 PM)
yeah you should try the polymer sealant from meguairs as well later on. i will get another car later on with silver paint, then i'ld get it waxed using the meguiars polymer products lets see the outcome ,keep u posted

Cool. smile.gif I would love to hear your experiences on the comparison.


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post Aug 19 2004, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE (Suk @ Aug 18 2004, 04:11 PM)
1 question here...

we have to cold down our engine b4 we wax our car ? Y ?

I don't see how that be something to question... tongue.gif Reason, you would have washed your car properly and by that time, your car should have been cool enough. But think about it, would you even start spraying water on the hot surface of the car and cause the sudden contraction/expansion.... That's just crazy.

Plus if you're waxing with the engine hot, that means you did not wash your car first and your license and right to own a car should be taken away. laugh.gif

Some products that have abrasive compound will dry faster with the heat and with direct sunlight causing you to more likely scratch your paint and for products that don't then it may dry too fast for it to properly cure and protect your paint.


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post Sep 14 2004, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE (cocklea @ Sep 2 2004, 06:46 AM)
damn that is an awesome car. where do u live redbox? and r u malaysian abroad? if yes, how is the left hand drive works?

Cocklea, I am in the United States. Left hand drive works just the same as right hand drive. Here I'm sitting on the left in the car but drive on the right side of the road. Back home we sit on the right but drive on the left side of the road. smile.gif

Different arm on operating the stick. It won't take you very long to get use to it.


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post Sep 14 2004, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE (d@id @ Sep 8 2004, 12:35 PM)
hehe i guess u haven't see real showroom cars before.

hrmm this line is confusing

what i mean is showroom cars has loads of polymer on it for the shine, while redbox's car is pure on the paint color itself.

Heheh... I guess you're right. laugh.gif Not near showroom cars shine but still pretty much the shinest on the road where I live here... cool.gif

I sense an urge to do give it a good polish again soon. Winter is coming so I want to try to work in another good layer before it gets cold. smile.gif smile.gif

By the way, I had used cotton towel for the job that I always do on my car but will probably change and use microfiber towel next. Heard and read nothing but good things about them.


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post Oct 22 2004, 09:56 PM

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Hmm.... if you spend some time learning and doing your own detailing I think you can save on having someone else do it. It is not really hard, just time consuming. smile.gif


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post Feb 24 2005, 01:04 AM

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It's been a while since I visited this thread. smile.gif Anyway... cry.gif cry.gif someone dinged the passenger side of my car with small dents while opening their door!!! Bastards!! To all you car drivers out there... please do pay attention when you open your car door. Sheesh.... vmad.gif

Anyway, I can get it fixed but I'll leave it for now since it's very minor but looks like it's time to do some major car washing and polishing/waxing again. smile.gif Share some pictures guys after you get your car that shine!! smile.gif


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post Mar 31 2005, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(tleilaxu @ Mar 30 2005, 07:37 AM)
can someone teach me how to use meguairs clay bar effectively?any way to lubricate the clay besides quik detailer?thanks.. biggrin.gif
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I almost bought that today! smile.gif But went for another brand. Tleilaxu, you can use a mixture of car wash liquid and water as a lubricant as well if you do not want to use the quick detailer. I had used zaino's clay bar and also other brands. For me it's a waste to use the quick detailer as a lubricant. I am sure there will be people that will differ from my opinion but basically you want something that you can glide the clay bar over the paint without harming the paint. I am quoting what I wrote on the first post on claying. Hope it helps.

Step 2: Clay
After washing off all the dishwashing liquid, I start the claying process. You do not have to dry your car first. Prepare a spray bottle that contain water/car wash liquid to use as lubricant. Claying is easy but you have to be careful or you will end up scratching your paint. Why clay? The clay as your rub over the paint of your car will pick up any additional grime/dirt/tar/bird droppings/etc from the paint. Your local car parts store should have this.

Here's how you do it. Spray an area with the water/car wash liquid mixture. Kneed a small piece of clay (that you can hold comfortably with your fingers and not drop it) and rub it over the sprayed area. For the top area of the car, use a front/back motion and for the side area of the car, use an up/down motion. Rub over the same area until you feel it going over the paint smoothly. Spray more lubricant if needed. Remember to kneed the clay after so many passes as you do not want the stuff that it picks up to scratch other paint area that you are claying. If you happen to drop it on the floor, THROW it AWAY. Do not try to use it again. It will now have dirt stuck to it from the floor and you will end up scratching your car. It's not worth trying to save a few bucks over your $$$ car. I went over every inch of the paint that I can get to with the clay.


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post May 29 2005, 12:40 PM

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Jackie Leong,

I think you should read the instructions to the wax/polish that you are using. Always follow instructions for best results. All products that I have used always advise users to wax/polish in a cool dry place.


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post Jun 21 2005, 01:02 PM

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I use Meguiars ScratchX for minor scratches and it works pretty well. Not sure if it will work as well for deeper scratches. When I say minor, I mean very light and thin scratches. I imagine the scratches from your pet will not be too deep so try that and see.

If it is deeper, you may have to search for filler products that will require you to fill, sand and then polish it. This tend to be more elaborate than the regular scratch removal type cream. You can find a lot of information on how to do it on the Internet.

Not sure about the price of that in M'sia. Hopefully someone will be able to answer you. In my opinion, doing it by hand is still the best and you tend to waste a lot of wax/polish using a rotary buffing machine. smile.gif


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post Jun 29 2005, 03:00 PM

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You can minimize by being extremely careful. Use high quality cloth like microfiber for wiping on the paint. Use products that will reduce the swirls. The ones that I used as posted on the first post will reduce the swirls.

If you clay, always kneed the clay constantly to prevent builtup on one surface as you are cleaning. Never, never reuse a cloth/clay/wiping material that you drop on the floor. Just put it aside and use a new one.

But I agree, it is very hard to prevent. sad.gif


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post Aug 3 2005, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(peelfresh @ Jul 11 2005, 06:02 PM)
where to buy special sheepskin wash mitts? as u said in the 1st page for washing the car.... i mean where to buy it in malaysia since i'm here smile.gif
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Hope you have found a place to buy it in malaysia. smile.gif If not, if you truly want, I guess I can try to help you buy one and ship it to you. Not sure how much the shipping will be but I think it will cost quite a bit. smile.gif


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post Aug 3 2005, 01:24 PM

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Not sure if any of you do this but I have started buying only microfiber cloth for my washing/polishing needs. I stopped using cotton pad applicator as I find that it is easier to polish using microfiber where the coverage is more even. After using, I will then wash and dry them but will only use it for wiping non-easily scratch interior. After using it on interior, I throw them away.

For washing/polishing the next time, I will get new microfiber cloths which is always softer and smoother while new. It is hard to get a used cloth to be as soft as new ones.


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post Aug 17 2005, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(peelfresh @ Aug 15 2005, 03:39 AM)
how much u buy the microfiber cloth? i hope i can find it in malaysia coz the other cloth i tried to find everywhere but still can find it...  got any pics bout ur cloth?
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I get them at local automotive shop where I am at currently. Not sure about Malaysia, sorry. You can read this for more information. It has pictures too so you can get an idea.


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post Aug 29 2005, 10:59 PM

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Depends on the cloth and your preference I supposed. I just find that even with washing you don't get the smoothness and silkyness like a new one.

I found a type of suede microfiber that I will try out this weekend if possible (and if it doesn't rain smile.gif ) to see how well it works.


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QUOTE(peelfresh @ Aug 30 2005, 01:47 AM)
suede microfiber? wow i never heard of that b4 sweat.gif there sure alot of cloth out there that i dunno... please do tell the result kay? thumbup.gif
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First time I have seen it too. smile.gif About RM17 for 3 pieces. Feels better than my shower towel.. LOL


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QUOTE(peelfresh @ Sep 1 2005, 05:21 AM)
RM 17 for 3? that's a good deal... are there any in malaysia i wonder wink.gif 

anyway u have the pic of the cloth?
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I have not had a chance to use it yet. Been too busy to take time out to wash my car. Here are pictures of the suede microfiber.

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QUOTE(vickyrao @ Sep 10 2005, 04:50 PM)
was just wondering wat producst can i use for my 25 year old daihatsu charmant...cos im gonna repaint my car to a pearl blue color...n i wanna maintain the paint job.....pls advice...n also is there anything better then rainx??
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Hmm.. I would think if the paint job is done and cured properly, you should be able to use normal products and I mean normal polishing products of your choice. You shouldn't have to use anything special.


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