Hey people, I've updated the general iPhone 3G details after the developments of the past month as best I could but there's a slight issue however as to how the iPhone 2.5G and iPhone 3G questions should be presented. The issues:

1) There's a 1.1.4 community and a FW 2.0 community. Some questions answer 1.1.4 questions and some for 2.0. Some of them overlap.

2) Some of the questions are not inter-related enough to be grouped into a certain section. For example, iTunes solutions can be hard to group under a certain section. It's not particularly a firmware related issue so I can't group it under the 1.1.4 nor the 2.0 section. Ditto that for iPhone browser etc. A separate section dedicated to these general software issues will be confusing to navigate because then there will be a FW1.1.4 section, a FW2.0 section and a general software section?

Should there just be an iPhone 2.5G section and an iPhone 3G section? But some of the questions apply to both sections so should there also be a General iPhone section?

As you can see, this can prove to be a real headache..


I'm currently working on the pwnage solution to be posted on the FAQ page but is there any other FREQUENTLY ASKED questions that you guys would like to see posted? If so, post the question and the answer in the thread and I will edit the front page as necessary and credit your name alongside it.

Oh, and layout suggestions are very much welcomed because once I'm done with the FW2.0 FAQ section, the page's gonna look a right mess!

Thanks for the help guys.




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CONTENT

GENERAL QUESTIONS

- 3G iPhone

- Buying iPhone from Overseas


TECHNICAL QUESTIONS

- Unlocking the iPhone and Getting Started [Version 1.1.4]

- General iPhone Software

- General iPhone Hardware Answers


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GENERAL QUESTIONS



3G IPHONE



Q: What new features are there compared to the 1st generation iPhone?

A: Here are the list of new features available on the new iPhone 3G:

i) 3G HSDPA

ii) Assisted GPS, which is actually a good thing because no monthly fees, and the cell tower triangulation can improve location locking at places with high rise buildings

iii) Plastic back, available in black or white.

iv) Better speaker quality, however the speakers are still mono

v) Better battery standby time.


Q: Can the iPhone 3G be unlocked?

A: In a general sense, yes but it's not as straightforward as it sounds. At time of writing, only New Zealand sells unlocked iPhone 3G's off the shelf. iPhone 3G's that are tied down to carrier plans can be unlocked by obtaining the unlock code from the carrier for a fee.

The other way is by using the retro SIM card adapter method first introduced when the first generation iPhone was out. It involves cutting your SIM card and placing it into the adapter to fool the iPhone into thinking the SIM card is valid. As you can see, it is a relatively primitive method compared to the software method used by the 1st generation iPhone's. Also, there are reports of problems using this method such as poor reception etc so use it at your own risk.


Q: Is unlocking the iPhone 3G illegal?

A: In a nutshell, NO if it's for personal usage and not for gaining profits. If you want more details, go HERE. (credit: seaedge)



Q: How much will the 3G iPhone cost?

A: 8GB 3G iPhones will only set you back $199 and the 16GB ones go for $299! There IS a catch however, these prices are subsidized by the respective countries' carriers. Whereas before, buyers were allowed to bring home the iPhone to activate through iTunes, this is NO LONGER possible. Contracts will now have to be signed on the spot.

What this means is you can no longer walk out from an Apple/AT&T/02/etc store without signing a contract beforehand. So no, the price is not $199/299 unless you're signing a contract with the local carrier.

There are unlocked 3G iPhone's in places like New Zealand and the prices are NZD 979 for the 8GB version and NZD 1199 for the 16GB version. From the 3G tumpang thread from Stringfellow, Vodafone is now limiting buyers to 1 unit per person. A friend of mine from NZ confirmed that the Vodafone shop near his place does not sell iPhone 3G without plans at all so it could be a store-by-store case.


In Malaysia, the iPhone 3G from brick and mortar stores in Low Yat Plaza and Sungai Wang are going for upward of RM4000 whereas at the LYN forum, prices range from RM3000-3600. Please note however that some of these may be scams especially the RM2500-RM2800 priced ones so be very careful when purchasing from the forums.





Q: Does this mean us Malaysians won't be able to get our hands on the new 3G iPhone?

A: As mentioned, you can still get it overseas from places like New Zealand but most of the other countries only offer phones with plans. The easiest and laziest way right now is to pay an exorbitant charge and get it from local sellers but this is only recommended if you have lots of money to burn.



Q: When will the iPhone 3G arrive in Malaysia?

A: I've heard from a source that Maxis will be bringing it in as part of their strategy to tie consumers down to long term deals. This is because of the ruling in September where consumers can hop between carriers without changing their phone numbers. For example, users can switch to DIGI and still keep their 012 number. As you can imagine, the local telecommunications market will be a virtual free-for-all.

There are also other speculation that DIGI will be bringing it in. What is for certain, however, is that it won't be here until early 2009 at best.



Q: How much will it cost if it officially launches here in Malaysia?

A: No idea but there are 3 possible scenarios:

1) There is a carrier subsidy and you can get it for a cheap price a la RM1000-RM1500 (Estimate). However, you would have to sign a contract and tie yourself down to a carrier.

2) There is no carrier subsidy, in which case, it's gonna be mad expensive, I reckon, about RM3000.

3) There is a carrier subsidy and you unlock the phone without signing a contract, which is, you guessed right, EXACTLY, what everyone is doing right now.


Q: Should I wait for it to arrive in Malaysia?

A: 1) If you feel you have to have the warranty

2) If you have such strength of will that you can stand not having an iPhone


then by all means, go ahead and wait. Have to warn you though, it's gonna be a looooong wait...




Q: I am a current 1st Gen iPhone user. Is the version 2.0 firmware available for my iPhone?

A: Yes, it is. The 2.0 firmware upgrade will be free for all current iPhone users and will include the new App Store among other features. Details are available at the Apple website. You would have to use the Pwnage tool to jailbreak-activate-unlock your phone again after you've updated your firmware.


Q: I am a current 1st Gen iPhone user. Is the upgrade to iPhone 3G worth it?

A: It depends really. The only major upgrades are 3G and A-GPS. 3G in the Klang Valley is decent but is frankly rubbish elsewhere so it's really your call. If you have some spare change lying around, why not?


Q: I am a current 1st Gen iPhone user. Should I sell my iPhone now and buy the 3G iPhone? Since the price is $199/299, won't my iPhone be worth sweet nothing?

A: No, in fact the opposite is true. With the new policy requiring iPhone users to sign up on the spot, this could be the end of unlocked iPhone's for people in the US. Their only option would be to buy unlocked iPhone's from overseas. There are buyers who are willing to forgo the 3G option so there isn't a better time to sell now before unlocked 3G iPhone's start surfacing after the July 11 launch date.

If you want to sell, try selling on Ebay US. There are iPhones being sold at around the $300-$500 range.

If you're selling with a view to buying the new 3G iPhone however, you would have to consider the fact that you're going to have to top up upwards of RM1500-RM2000 depending on how much you make off your old iPhone.

So consider if the upgrade is worth it before you decide to sell your iPhone because the potential hassle and cost in getting a 3G iPhone may outweigh the benefits of the upgrade.



BUYING IPHONE FROM OVERSEAS




Q: Can I buy a phone from the USA/UK/Singapore, and ship it back to Malaysia? I can save a lot of money..

A: New user policy requires that you sign a contract with the local carrier on the spot. So unless you're willing to pay the high price of a prepaid/unlocked 3G iPhone, you may no longer do so.

If your friend/relative is signing a contract and selling you the iPhone, ask him/her to bring it back personally if possible. Shipping it back here is a huge risk because if the customs find out, and they most likely WILL, you're looking at tax+SIRIM charges at about RM400 give or take. You would also have to go through a lot of hassle, running between departments and also think of all the fuel burnt!


Q: Anything I should know about the iPhone that I buy from overseas?

A: Yes, there is no warranty whatsoever. In fact, the same goes for all the unlocked iPhones in Malaysia. That is why it's safer if you get it from a local seller as you know it definitely works out of the box.






TECHNICAL QUESTIONS


UNLOCKING THE IPHONE AND GETTING STARTED [Version 1.1.4]

This is something you have to understand before attempting to jailbreak/unlock your iPhone. By tempering with the software of your iPhone, you are essentially voiding your iPhone warranty. While the steps below worked for just about everyone, there is no absolute guarantee that your iPhone will work the same because there are iPhone's which tend to act up. Therefore, do not hold any contributor responsible should anything untoward happen to your phone during the unlocking process. Bottom line, unlock your iPhone AT YOUR OWN RISK..

Sorry for making that sound so scary, it really is a very painless process but juuust in case...

Before unlocking your iPhone, I would suggest first restoring your iPhone to version 1.1.4. iLiberty is the program of choice at the moment due to its ease of use. Also, unlike ziphone, it doesn't screw your bootloader up. The unlocking steps can be found from the link below:

Download iLiberty for Windows HERE (Link courtesy of Jeff7112)

iLiberty steps for Windows (Link courtesy of nkymark)

iLiberty steps and download for Mac OS X (Link courtesy of UnUsUaL)

You will need to also install the BSD subsystem, Appsupport, and preferably, OpenSSH as well. These options are available at the iLiberty software and can also be found in the Installer app.

Q: How do I transfer contacts from my old phone to my new one?

A:There are 2 methods.

1) If you have your old phone's cable and software, simply sync your contacts to Microsoft Outlook, Windows Address Book or Yahoo Address book, doesn't matter, they work the same. Then, plug your iPhone in, go to the iPhone subsection and under info, check the "Sync contacts with <program that you chose>" box. Click "Sync".

2) Alternatively, you can use Simport, a native iPhone app that allows you to transfer contacts from your SIM card to your iPhone. Transfer all your contacts to your SIM card and insert the SIM card to your iPhone. To install the program, go to Installer>Sources>Edit>Add>http://install.ifon.no

Once you've added the source, go to Install>All Packages>Simport. Install and use. You're welcomed

Q: How do I set Malaysia as the resident country for my contacts? It's not in the Country Selection list!

A:
1. Download attachment from HERE (provided by frozzbyte & alang)
2. Unzip the file and you will find a file called ABAddressFormats(MOD).plist
3. RENAME it to ABAddressFormats.plist
4. Use your SSH software ( I used WinSCP) or iPhone Browser to log into your phone.
5. Go into the directory /System/Library/Frameworks/AddressBook.framework
5a. (optional step) copy out your original ABAddressFormats file OUT of your iPhone for safekeeping
6. DRAG ABAddressFormat.plist into it
7. Confirm COPY and overwrite the file
8. Disconnect iPhone and restart your phone.
9. MALAYSIA should appear as an option in the country selection list in your Addressbook

(credit: frozzbyte, alang, c_calvin)



GENERAL IPHONE SOFTWARE

Q: How can I access my iPhone files/folders through my computer?

For photos, just double click on My Computer and your iPhone should already be there; recognized as a camera.

To access the folders in the iPhone there are 2 methods:

Via cable/dock:

Download iPhoneBrowser HERE.

Via WLAN (wireless):

There are a few more steps involved here compared to using iPhoneBrowser but hey, it's wireless!

Instuctions and download can be found HERE

Q: Must I always sync with my iTunes library? What if I just want to add one song or one video? It's annoying because my iPod/iPhone always tries to sync with my friend's computer whenever I plug it in.

A: This has been a question that has been asked a lot of times and it's a very irritating myth that your iPod/iPhone library has to mirror your iTunes library. The answer to that is no. You can manually manage your iPod/iPhone library.

1) Turn on iTunes. Under the iPod/iPhone subsection, you should see a "Manually manage songs and videos" box. Check that box.

2) You can now drag and drop music and video files to your iPod/iPhone library without syncing with your library by simply dragging the file and positioning it over the iPod/iPhone heading. There should be a blue highlight over the heading. Release the file. (I know the drag and drop process is very detailed but you can't be too careful with newbies)

Q: What can I do to turn off my EDGE settings to prevent my bills from going sky high? Why is the E sign still there no matter what I do?

A: First of all, the E sign will be there regardless of what you do. It just indicates that there is an EDGE signal in your area. To disable EDGE settings, try installing Bossprefs. You can find it at the Utilities folder in the Installer App. (credit: c_calvin)

Q: What are the MMS/EDGE settings for my iPhone?

To access the EDGE settings, go to Settings>General>Network>EDGE and key in the following parameters according to your carrier:

Maxis
APN: net
APN name: maxis
APN password: wap
WAP gateway: 202.75.133.49
MMSC: http://172.16.74.100:10021/mmsc

Celcom
APN: mms.celcom.net.my
APN name:
APN password:
WAP gateway: 10.128.1.242
MMSC: http://mms.celcom.net.my/

DiGi
APN: digimms
APN name: mms
APN password: mms
WAP gateway: 203.92.128.160
MMSC: http://mms.digi.com.my/servlets/mms

(credit: UnUsUaL)


Q: My caller ID doesn't seem to work. Help!

A: Install AppSupport (1.1.4 or 1.1.3 or whatever depending on your firmware). You can find it at the iClarified folder in your installer app. If you don't have it, the source is: http://installer.iclarified.com

Q: Any recommended apps I should get for my iPhone?

A: There are too many to list down. Part of the fun of a jailbroken iPhone is actually exploring for new apps. Refresh the Installer page, and check the "RECENT APPLICATIONS" folder every now and then and look out for new apps. For more sources, go to the "SOURCES" folder and install the BigBoss recommended sources.

Alternatively, go ahead and check out this thread.

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/658818 (credit: William_Yeo and LYN contributors)

Q: How do I add album art to my songs?

A: This is really simple:

1) To get an English album art, search for the album in Google or my personal preference, Amazon.com. Right click on the album image, click "Save image as..", and save it to your desktop. For Chinese album arts, try Google Images.

2) Turn on iTunes. Right click the song and select "Get Info". Click on the "Artwork" Tab. Drag the image file from the desktop and drop it on the album art box and click "Ok".

3) To save the same album art for multiple songs, simply Ctrl+select the songs that you want and repeat step 2.

Q: How do I rearrange the icons on my springboard "home screen"?

A: Press and hold onto any icon on the springboard until all the icons start to wiggle. You can now move/delete any icon except for the stock ones such as Mail, Weather, Youtube etc.


GENERAL IPHONE HARDWARE ANSWERS

i) It's not hard to type on the touchscreen once you get used to it. The spellcheck is pretty good.

ii) Battery life is about 1 day with heavy usage (wi-fi, calls, videos, games). Otherwise, the standby time is one of the best I've seen.

iii) The screen doesn't scratch easily, being made from glass. Go to Youtube to see the stress test. It's a fingerprint magnet though, so always have your cleaning cloth close by.

iv) Protective cases are a huge MUST once you get your iPhone. I'll personally vouch for that after dropping mine on the ground and slipping into depression for a few days. There are all sorts depending on whether you prefer form or functionality. Go over to the iPhone case thread.

v) The speakers are, for want of a better word, terrible. They are mono speakers and will crackle at loud volumes. Use your headphones whenever possible.

vi) The headphone , erm, socket? is recessed so most of the headphone jacks will not work with it. To solve this, get a headphone adapter, which is basically a slight extension for you to plug your headphone in. Google to find sellers. This is not an issue with the iPhone 3G, however.

vii) Bluetooth on the iPhone can be used for wireless headset pairing ONLY and it can only be used for answering calls. So that means you can't stream audio to it, you can't transfer files, do hardware syncs etc. (credit: c_calvin)

This post has been edited by blackchides: Aug 24 2008, 02:25 PM

blackchides

YOU ARE THE MAN..GOOD TOPIC...so ppl just contin question here.

Well you should name this thread as 'The Unofficial 3G iPhone FAQ Page' cause all along the sentences are about rumored new 3G iPhone.

Well, 3G/2.5G iPhone are still called iPhone's. The list is by no means complete, and like I mentioned, is user contributed, so if you feel there is something you would like to add, feel free to post your question and answer here and I'll edit the main post as required.

GOOD ONE BRO

maybe how do i unlock the phone questions should be included?

how do i get installer?

how do i move the icons around?

just some contribution

carrier that support..i found this question still got people asking.

method to unlock iphone.....

how to set up MMS

My iphone Hang......what to do...

just answered this Q at another thread.. i think it has been asked many times too..

This post has been edited by c_calvin: Apr 29 2008, 08:55 PM

Good post dude...

iPhone users, just a noob question:

When I'm on the phone halfway and I wish to take down some text or numbers on the phone, how do I do it? And is there loud speaker like the conventional Nokia phones?

Try to put some FAQ on unlocking methods and apps needed in order to run outside US flawlessly. Those questions really has been asked thousand of times.

Guys, like I said, it would really help me if you guys can post it in Q and A form like c_calvin Post #9.

Example:

Q: Question

A: Answer


That would really get things going and make things a lot easier

Then make sure you give acknowledgment. =)

Didnt expect this to come from a junior member. Anyway keep up the good work and it would be great if folks that wish to help out to the community could post the guide here so blackchides can edit his first post.

Cheers

good thread

Well, if you've noticed the first post, you'd have seen that I have always credited whoever gave the answer at the end..

Yeah...good thread~
can help ppl to slove their problem and answer their question~
or can have a discussion here...

Hey there, after i have unlocked my phone with iliberty i can't seem to locate the settings icon? may i know where it could be located? Thx.

OMG...means i hv to save more money to get the 3G iPhone. Lol...im a iPhone craZEEE

Pinned

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This will come in handy for newcomers

This post has been edited by nkymark: May 1 2008, 05:32 PM

eh mark, u left out your standard catchphrase "cheers"




yeah FINALLY, no more noob questions. i am very reluctantly to post much these few weeks because of those.

haha...okok


Cheers

hisay i missed the mod's ultrawomen avatar haha..neway thanks!!

What are the must-have-applications that i should get???

Haha, I was looking for my thread to edit some stuff. Searched through the first few thread pages but couldn't find it before realizing it was pinned! Coolio..

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Added on May 1, 2008, 11:34 pmI think we need to add an unlocking FAQ here. I think we all agree that iLiberty is the best way right now since ziPhone has the bootloader issues? Anyone wants to write a step by step guide for unlocking an iPhone using iLiberty or maybe post a link to it?

If I'm not wrong, the link at the iPhone club thread is iLiberty for Mac. I'm looking for iLiberty for Windows.

I'll add it to the front page and credit your name as a contributor.

This post has been edited by blackchides: May 1 2008, 11:34 PM

Cheers!!!nice&good thread

I think the guide from iclarified is good...complete with picture somemore

Here you go bro.

http://www.hackthatphone.com/114/iphone_il...ty_windows.html



Cheers

Urgent!!! How to transfer contact list from nokia phone into iphone? Help my boss need it

Download an iPhone application called simport where you can transfer files from your SIM card to the iPhone.

Alternatively, use a cable to connect the nokia phone to the computer and sync with outlook/address book program of your choice. Then, connect your iPhone to the computer. From iTunes, in your iPhone submenu, just click sync with (program of your choice).

Good job blackchides. Now u have a heavy burden to maintain this. Just hope this not a "hot hot chicken s**t" thingy (direct translation la). Kudos to u man.

i guess u should put this n the 1st post too
i've seen this question again and again

Done

Q: My caller ID doesn't seem to work. Help!

A: Install AppSupport (1.1.4 or 1.1.3 or whatever depending on your firmware). You can find it at the iClarified folder in your installer app. If you don't have it, the source is: http://installer.iclarified.com


thank god i found this thread

just got my iphone 16gb yday. and still clueless

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Added on May 3, 2008, 6:40 pmHi,

i got another question here regarding my contacts list.

i have been saving peoplé's number as below

eg: donkey HP
eg: Jack Hp
eg: Don House

problem is..when i go to my contact list.

they straight away categorized all my contacts into A-Z.

so what i can see is..

category H,
donkey HP,JackHp,Don House.

is there anyway that i can change it to normal view?for instance..

category D
-Donkey Hp
-Don house
caegory J
-Jack Hp

can anyone help me out?


This post has been edited by neonfanatics: May 3 2008, 06:40 PM

It's a bit different from what you want, but have you tried saving multiple numbers in the same name instead? For instance, Jack HP and Jack House will go under Jack..

It's pretty intuitive. If you decide to change phone in the future, just sync your contacts with Outlook and sync it with your new phone. It will appear under Jack (mobile/home) as well in your new phone. That's what I did with my old Samsung D900 and when I synced it with my iPhone when I got it, it worked seamlessly. Every number in the same category under the same name..

Hi there,

thanks alot for replying to my question.

i thought we could choose the option whether i wanna put 1st name first or last name first.but couldnt find the right way to do it.

sorry as i am total newbie .just got my iphone yday.sorry for the troubles caused

its best to ask than get lost...or BRICK your iPhone

This post has been edited by Corvinux: May 4 2008, 01:16 AM

yes u can do that in the setting
just go to setting----phone---sort order

Anybody can help me to find fm tuner for the my iphone? I've been looking around klang valley but no success. Except in sunway pyramid they have an ifm for ipod. It works fine on the sound but I didn't bring my ori headset for iphone so that I can check whether I can still use the handsfree function. Anybody? Suggestions? Thanks..

Hi blackchides
why not put this in your 1st post too..
or you can put a link to that thread on your 1st post [ http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/672555 ]
saw ppl asking it again

This post has been edited by c_calvin: May 8 2008, 11:14 PM

Done. Thanks. Yeah, was going to put it up too. It's one of those hot questions where suddenly, a lot of people start asking...

hi blackchides. i use the link in the first post iLiberty but cant download the software iLiberty from there, i think the link is broken . just to inform u that we can download the software from George Zhu's blog and use the guide in ur link . hope u update it in the first post . more complete i guess.

Done. Thanks for the heads up..

I plan to restore my iphone nw..is that any thing i need to backup?

Well, anything that you feel is useful to you. Contacts, songs, videos, etc. If you want to save yourself the trouble of re-installing apps, maybe you want to nick the app files off your phone and save it to your PC/Mac..

What can you do with Bluetooth on the iPhone?

-It can't transfer files to a PC.
-It can't send a photo to a Bluetooth printer.
-It can't stream audio via Bluetooth to a compatible speaker system or headset. (Video is out of the question.)

The only function of the Bluetooth is to link with Bluetooth headset. (Better to test if it's working with iPhone before buying)

This post has been edited by c_calvin: May 10 2008, 05:09 PM

Thanks. I've shortened and added it to the Hardware Answers section though to reduce column inches

nice post
maybe u can add link to the firmware file?

can any1 tell me wuts the diff between unlocked and locked iphone? izzit unlocked one can use malaysian sim card?

Yeah, iPhone's are locked to their respective country's carrier so you have to unlock it to be able to use it..

alright thanks ... does phone shops in klcc sells iphone? if they do i will get them on monday

I've no idea, to be honest, but you might wanna go over to the garage sale section in the forum. I think the prices offered there are more competitive compared to the prices quoted in brick and mortar shops. Good luck!

yup i agree ... the price is very nice ... but the prob is my fren is buying for me ... coz he wanna buy a new phone also ... so he is going to klcc tomorrow

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Added on May 10, 2008, 10:55 pmyup i agree ... the price is very nice ... but the prob is my fren is buying for me ... coz he wanna buy a new phone also ... so he is going to klcc tomorrow

This post has been edited by insane.gamer: May 10 2008, 10:55 PM

Thanks for this FAQ page.. But i have to apologize that I still have question to ask (lots of questions).

MAIN QUESTION:
I'm not sure if I am suitable to own an Iphone. would like to hear you guys comment base on my need and my knowledge in tec.

Currently I own o2 mini. And running on windows mobile does allow it to install different kinds of application /games etc. But after a while I find it a lot of hassle...and do not have time to check/install/try all d applications. And when i didnt spend time on those.. the PDA phone bcome rather user unfriendly (compare to normal hp) exp: sms, browse pictures, etc.

Finding that myself is not the type of person who will spend hours researching how to customize my pda. I dont think i will b going for another PDA phone. Now... i am considering is Iphone suitable for me.

why i like about I phone:
1. Browsing photos with zoom in/out/pan so convenient.. and CLEAR!!! As leisure photographer... I will always like to keep some favourite shoot to show off my photos.

2. Song Album organized so easily and swapping albums interface is sooo COOOL! I believe in Ipod userfriendliness. No doubt.

3. Built in Wireless. wifi? Current 02mini dont have wifi. and must use external wifi card. This is important question i will like to find out..

HOW EASY IS IT TO SURF WITH IPHONE SAFARI? HOW CAN WE CONNECT TO INTERNET? IF in Starbuck...we get WIFI.. and so it is free.... But how fast is the connection compare to if we surf through laptop on wifi? What if Im somewhere else with no wifi.. any other way for me to get connected? EDGE? I dont know how good will this work. I hardly imagine the ease of connecting with Iphone and this is an important issue for me. Can I still download files with safari? WIFI vs EDGE vs 3G vs GPRS ..these r big big question for me

4. On 02mini... I find that i cant even save images from website. How about I phone?


Other disadvantages i find in Iphone (for me)
5. Cant copy & paste text/files like in windows mobile
6. im pc user. will this b a problem for I phone. in syncing files .. i tunes.. etc
7. is there any application in I phone that is similar to Microsoft Outlook where i can organize my days and schedule meeting etc?
8. no MSN!!!!! ... was hoping i can sit back in starbuck n chatting with ppl in my Msn lists.
9. typing. I understand the clever onscreen keyboard works..(auto predict ur text smthing like that) But i still dont understand how well it works. Using PDA to sms while driving is almost impossible for me. (i Write with stylus)
10. cant bloody mms. at least im glad my mum know how to mms photos of smthing she saw n likes.
11. cant forward sms to multiple ppl (cny wishes, valentine's wishes, new year wishes)
12. no warranty....haha. and all the hassle with unlocking..software updates etc.

Found lowyat r selling i phone for rm 1.7k+ wondering is it worth to get a piece of Iphone to replace my old poor 02mini. what u guys think?

This post has been edited by clivengu: May 11 2008, 05:07 AM

What i can tell u is klcc never sell iphone at all except tounch lah.
The cheapest way is find a dealer in GS and deal with him at klcc.
is my advice lo,bz i use this way to get my lovely iphone

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Added on May 11, 2008, 8:13 amreply to clivengu.
First,iphone wifi is just little slower than laptop
2)Nt just safari browser easy to use,everything in iphone are super easy to use
3)your disadvantage gt few alr update since macworld 2008
:alr gt app that allow u to send MMS as ling u gt credit
:u can alr send msg to muliple person.
the web is real web and the keyboard is good as well bz i using it
to type this reply.try to see some video in youtube,u will get more

This post has been edited by ff8ong: May 11 2008, 08:13 AM

i m reading the article on hw to unlock the iphone..

i noticed

"I mistakenly checked the downgrading a 4.6 bootloader to a 3.9 fake blank bootloader (as you'll see in a picture later) but it didn't matter. There is error checking in this program."

so does dis mean when using iLiberty we dun go checking "downgrading a 4.6 bootloader to a 3.9 fake blank bootloader " ??

me too want to ask..wats the first ting to do when u get the iphone? hook it up to iTunes den run the unlockig s/w??

thanks in advance all

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the virgin is deflowered..thanks all hu took the time to reply

This post has been edited by d3vilzzzz: May 12 2008, 08:17 AM

Jz want to share something ->if you can't install simport via the norm method(installer ->iClarified..bla bla bla)
try this..dun forget to restart the phone though

Me oso 1 2 ask..hw me google map can find Malaysia but nt Selangor or Petaling Jaya??

This post has been edited by d3vilzzzz: May 15 2008, 08:26 AM

mmm...maybe TS can add some notice on iBrickr. some people just google on adding ringtone into iPhone, and then find iBrickr as a free solution. but then after using it, jeng jeng jeng...

a simple notice will suffice. at least we can avoid cases like this from happening again:
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/695813

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Added on May 14, 2008, 10:23 amactually u can MSN on the iPhone using Fring. u can refer here and here. btw the 3rd party apps scene will be more merrier with the launch of official apps maybe this june. so there should be an official ported version of instant messaging application that u preferred. but as for now, u can already use fring (that also can handle Skype VoIP calls).
another application that can handle the same task is called Chat. also can do almost the same job, but without Skype VoIP of course.

no problem syncing files, either your contacts, photos or media files. u need to install iTunes, and it's the centre of transfers between your iPhone and computer. in iTunes u can also specify the iPhone to be synchronised with Outlook, so don't worry though.

using it while driving is impossible (and dangerous though). but other than that, the virtual keyboard is pure brilliant.

about saving file and performing copy and paste on the web, u can already do that using 3rd party app. btw some beta firmware users say that image snapping feature on the web is already built inside it.

speaking of unofficial 3rd party applications on the iPhone (as there's still no official application released yet), actually u can use them to achieve what u can't on stock configuration. u can forward SMS, receive and send MMS, save files from the internet, create and edit ringtones on the iPhone itself, all of that can already achieved on 3rd party apps. but there's some catch though, and u can see what r they later as u use the iPhone or as u research bout them further.

so good luck on your research.

This post has been edited by LaskarCinta: May 14 2008, 10:23 AM

anyone hv an answer to me ques?

i found out that there is Petaling Jaya if i do a zoom onto Malaysia..
but if search via typing in..its nt there

DFU Mode Vs Restore Mode

~DFU (device firmware upgrade) mode is a special mode that bypasses the operating system(doesn't boot up the "mac os" on iPhone) and lets you restore/upgrade the device. When in DFU mode, the phone will have no display on the screen.

~Restore mode is more common. In this mode you can also restore or upgrade your device, but it is not as drastic as DFU mode. Many restore problems can be solved by using DFU mode. When in restore mode, the phone will display the logo & cable screen.

ooo..so if anything restore oni?

when do v use DFU? wat about nxt time hv 1.1.5 norm restore or DFU?

wat abt the ques on maps??

Guys I read from somewhere that the iPhone by default can be easily compromised because of the default username and password that it uses. Should I manually attempt to passwd the accounts?

The default username and password that u meant is for SSH, not the iphone. If u don't have SSH installed then u don't have to worry about it. If u do then use bosspref to turn off SSH. Only turn it on when u want to use it. If u use BSD then u can't change the password or u'll end up with a spinning wheel of death. If u use cydia then u can change the password.

hi all,

may i know how much iPhone 8GB & 16GB selling in UK? and where to get it?

Try your self in GS in this LYN..most of UK iphone stock finish(8GB,16GB)
it because nest few week the 3G iphone may coming out..

hi sifuss, currently my iPhone running on 1.1.3 version......can i upgrade to 1.1.4 via my iTunes? and one more thing, why i can't use my 3G sim card? i can only use the old 64K card....need help....thanks

Yes, you can but you're gonna have to go through the whole unlocking process again. Since version 2.0 is coming out, why not just hold out for a few weeks more and just upgrade to the new version instead? Are you on Celcom?

iphone bluetooth only can be use for bluetooth headset... is it mean it'll never can be use to file tranfserring or other option??? or is it can be use when the new firmware come out???

yups..no file transfer to other phones via bluetooth..the file transfer via bluetooth oni happens with a fellow iphoner and with a 3rd party app..

even with a bluetooth headset there hv been sum no issues..no gurantee it'll work..

new f/w..hmmmm

Since when file transfer via bluetooth possible between iphones with the help of 3rd party app? Whats the 3rd party app name?

I know that u can transfer files between iphone user using drop copy but that one using wifi.

sorry sorry my bad..i tot via bluetooth? oo..must hv misread..

but the 1 via wifi..it needs 3 part app rite??

so will the new firmware will allow us to do file transfer using bluetooth??

hi sifuss, where can i find the WAP GATEWAY and MMSC setting? i only have APN, Username and Password under EDGE setting....thanks

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Added on May 26, 2008, 9:53 pmthanks for the reply bro.....i see....yup, better i wait laa...hehehe, BTW, i'm using both celcom and maxis.....but for maxis, can....celcom cannot....

This post has been edited by ali86: May 26 2008, 09:53 PM

are you referring to 1.1.4 or 2.0?


no one can be certain as it is well known fact that one can hack via bluetooth.

as far i was concern, 1.1.4 does not support file transferring.... how about the 2.0 that will release soon?

no one knows for sure

oic... but can the feature be enable by updating the firmware only??? or we need to change hardware???

The current iphone hardware do support all bluetooth functionality but apple did not enable the bluetooth stack for file transfering. An effort by some users have been done to port the bluetooth stack for iphone but this is not an easy feat. There is no sign in the next firmware that this feature will be enable as apple don't want us to transfer media file back and forth.

need help here, where can i find the WAP gateway and MMSC setting? i only have APN, Username and Password under EDGE setting....thanks

you only need to key in that if you wanna use swirly MMS

guys,,how to change sms tones?? i tried but the tones didnt appear.

This post has been edited by sapora: May 27 2008, 02:35 PM

under settings > General > Network > EDGE
well if u wanna use Swirlly u only need MMSC n proxy jes that and key in everything in Swirlly..do check your swirlly version..

this settings is at page 1 if this is what ure looking for

Q: What are the MMS/EDGE settings for my iPhone?

To access the EDGE settings, go to Settings>General>Network>EDGE and key in the following parameters according to your carrier:

Maxis
APN: net
APN name: maxis
APN password: wap
WAP gateway: 202.75.133.49
MMSC: http://172.16.74.100:10021/mmsc

Celcom
APN: mms.celcom.net.my
APN name:
APN password:
WAP gateway: 10.128.1.242
MMSC: http://mms.celcom.net.my/

DiGi
APN: digimms
APN name: mms
APN password: mms
WAP gateway: 203.92.128.160
MMSC: http://mms.digi.com.my/servlets/mms

for your information i did not key in the MMS Settings in the general setting..i only key it in Swirlly and works like charm..happy MMSing...

p/s always remember once u key it do refrest your iphone for the settings to take effect tata

Is WAP gateway the same as proxy server? Btw i'm using swirlymms v0.3.8

yes it is the same..remember to refresh your phone for the settings to take effects

i do realise this; if you lets say you have entered the details into the network settings (unet, maxis, wap or etc), you need to switch to airplane mode for approximately 5secs and then turn it back on before you can log on.



anyone sharing the same here?

omg...i jz installed 1.1.4 and found out that all my installed apps all gone including SSH and installer app... only left the basic apps like sms, calendar, photos, camera, clock, youtube, maps, itunes, settings, notes etc...

u din bk up before restore(assuming dats hw u install 1.1.4)? normally there is option asking u if u 1 2 bk up or nt..

need help here,,why i have some unknown application like demo app,,terminal,, and utltc,, i also dunno where are these application came from,,and when i click on it..it doesnt appear anything,,can help me?? how to remove this unknown apps!

those are default app in the iphone...just leave it there...