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 ☆Fellowship of the Strings☆Violin,Viola,Cello etc., ~String Instruments Lovers are welcome!~

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post Jan 29 2008, 06:18 PM, updated 16y ago

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Fellowship of the Strings Version 2
wub.gif Violin,Viola,Contrabass & Cello players & string lovers are welcome




The Fellowship of the strings founded on Jun 19 2006, 02:38 PM by abang brother
Fellowship of the string version 1

from the passion of spreading the love of string instruments.

Here musicians, string lovers, music lovers get together. No matter what instrument you play: violin, viola, cello, bass, guitar, harp, sitar etc.

We are here united to share and spread the love of string instruments.

Feel free to post enquires, share some helpful tip, ask for feedback on yourself playing the instrument on video, and some upcoming events.


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String instrument club on Friendster icon_idea.gif
>>>http://profiles.friendster.com/9933608

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Full list of string instruments
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_string_instruments


Helpful Links
Please share if you come across any helpful websites, tips of playing, choosing instruments, music score etc.
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http://musiced.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsit...obuyviolin.html

Tips on choosing a violin


http://www.stringsmagazine.com/issues/strings113/china.html - Very good china made violin for beginner


Tunning your violin online-if u dont have a music fork or tuner....

http://www.get-tuned.com/violin_tuner.php

Refer here tips for holding violin/viola bow:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFvBfTnd89k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBXFdJ3rJFc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1wnbFPRRMc

MUSIC SHOPS specialized on strings instruments

Euro Music Distributor Sdn.bhd.
CITY SQUARE (C10)
JALAN TUN RAZAK
03-21642389

this is the map how to get to citysquare
http://my.pagenation.com/kul/City%20Square....7201_3.161.map


Early Music Venture
Old Klang Rd,
Tmn Desa
(PENDING ADD, RECOMMENDED BY CRABJIM)
For violin, & repair etc.

de music box
1-1, Jln Puteri 4/1, Bandar Puteri, 47100 Puchong
60 3 8060 0515


Please pm me if you are a cellist, contrabass, violinist, viola player so I can add you into our panel list biggrin.gif thanks!

Any mix up with the list please forgive me sweat.gif

Cello
JiaYing
Cello
Passionbass
DJLance1351
stefanong
Sky.Live
noobcake
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Contrabass
Bassix

Violin
CommanderKeen
kimmie
yangxi
ZidaneZCustom
crabjim
robertonikammio
liez
PetroToxin
pizzicato
ongpohheng
cusx
-FirstLove-
MOrKuPine POrKuPine
echobrainproject
ian31
Criptonox89
ZidaneZCustom
amacharu
fendii
LizzY
visioncatz
KissCutiePie
malaysiawhite
liquidsny
Andy214
Savor_Savvy
bukanmain
Joey87
mxxuang
Equilibrium777
Everdying
QD_buyer
kxin
Party2DMax
pigcat
looisc
storm04
limsy
roy33
little ice
jazranwajdi
kerazul
jikolo
dancing_violin
Momotaro Kun
chezzball
Maestrol
Kynzou
chesterland



Viola
onelove89

Viola-
N/A


Erhu / Chinese string instruments
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Guitar / Bass instruments
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erm i think a lot of people in your violin list don't play violin... sweat.gif
i certainly don't blink.gif
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post Jan 29 2008, 06:24 PM

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Gratz for new thread. Maybe after PMR i re-start my violin lesson. smile.gif
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ur friendster link is wrong.

but..

IM IN DA LIST!! ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG!!!!!!!!!!
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post Jan 29 2008, 09:02 PM

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I played the violin... way back when I was a wee kid.
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QUOTE(SweetTooth @ Jan 29 2008, 06:21 PM)
erm i think a lot of people in your violin list don't play violin... sweat.gif
i certainly don't blink.gif
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sorry just assuming; will go through the list again.added the potential musicians who has shown interests in taking up the instrument.thanks for the update


Added on January 29, 2008, 9:14 pm
QUOTE(Party2DMax @ Jan 29 2008, 09:02 PM)
I played the violin... way back when I was a wee kid.
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welcome party2dmax! do u still play the violin often?smile.gif


Added on January 29, 2008, 9:14 pm
QUOTE(abang brother @ Jan 29 2008, 06:24 PM)
Gratz for new thread. Maybe after PMR i re-start my violin lesson. smile.gif
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THANKS FOR DROPPING BY! notworthy.gif


Added on January 29, 2008, 9:15 pm
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ur friendster link is wrong.

but..

IM IN DA LIST!! ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG!!!!!!!!!!
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http://profiles.friendster.com/9933608

EDITED THANKS FOR UPDATE!:)

U R WELCOME THANKS FOR JOINING!

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violinist here.

woops, i meant a noob violinist
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Hmm.. no love for traditional Chinese instruments player here?

I play erhu. very sorrowful biggrin.gif
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See about 1:08.
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shocking.gif Whoa are they Taiwanese? Popular band?

I never give enough attention to the Chinese rock scenes but this is really good! Killing vocals, damn brutal!
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They even made it to Ozzfest 07, so yeah....... they are pretty big.
The Er-Wu part in the middle just........ BRUTAL!!!!!!!
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.... the erhu is probably just for show. Didn't make a sound. tongue.gif

Oh and TS: i don't play cello. And have only touched a double bass once tongue.gif
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I couldn't hear it in the middle but it's pretty apparent in the end. Any recommended albums from them?

BTW I do want to learn violin soon ...after I get myself a keyboard.
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Get Pandemonium, which is their best of album......
Alot of their songs feature the Er-Eu quite prominently actually.
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i once played violin.
had no idea how to tune it, so i tuned it to EADG.
then i of cos had no idea how to use a bow, so i plucked power chords everywhere.

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LOL you're pretty close - it's GDAE, perfect fifths apart.
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Wow Kim....you are so amazing!!! I appreciate your hardwork of reopen threads for us.
Hi guys and gals, i started this instruments 3 months ago. I just love it!!!

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QUOTE(quarantined @ Jan 29 2008, 11:03 PM)
Hmm.. no love for traditional Chinese instruments player here?

I play erhu. very sorrowful biggrin.gif
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added!!!:) now u r erhu consultant in this forum tongue.gif


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i once played violin.
had no idea how to tune it, so i tuned it to EADG.
then i of cos had no idea how to use a bow, so i plucked power chords everywhere.

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do u still play violin? maybe try again:) we are here to help


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Wow Kim....you are so amazing!!! I appreciate your hardwork of reopen threads for us.
Hi guys and gals, i started this instruments 3 months ago. I just love it!!!
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my pleasure...thanks for participating:)

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will there be TT sessions for The Lords of the Strings. lol. my location is ss26 PJ. those who lives near by can PM me for TT. Im a newbie in violin

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Congrats on the new topic rclxms.gif

I am not a classical string player but I have many friends who play cello..
In fact, I know the cello leader of MPYO... whistling.gif
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Hope you guys (and gals) will have a gathering soon.....
And then can experiment with some symphonic metal/rock songs in the future!
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Yeah everything to you is about metal =S
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im blockhead...juz kidding.i luv classical and rock. metal?I dun thk i like most of metal
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QUOTE(PetroToxin @ Jan 30 2008, 05:29 PM)
Congrats on the new topic rclxms.gif

I am not a classical string player but I have many friends who play cello..
In fact, I know the cello leader of MPYO... whistling.gif
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welcome ! welcome!

;p so ahem~~~~ can intro? just kidding
btw should i leave ur name in the list of violin?


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Hope you guys (and gals) will have a gathering soon.....
And then can experiment with some symphonic metal/rock songs in the future!
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a gathering should be great maybe after the cny holidays see how it goes thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(kimmie @ Jan 31 2008, 09:52 AM)
welcome ! welcome!

;p so ahem~~~~ can intro? just kidding
btw should i leave ur name in the list of violin?

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Ah.. I am not a violin/viola/cello/double bass player...
I am just another classical music lover. tongue.gif
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classical and metal have alot in common
in fact lotsa metal stuffs are inspired by classical pieces
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QUOTE(PetroToxin @ Jan 31 2008, 10:48 PM)
Ah.. I am not a violin/viola/cello/double bass player...
I am just another classical music lover. tongue.gif
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ok noted edited:) hopefully one day we will bring u to the pearly gates of musicians one day;p


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classical and metal have alot in common
in fact lotsa metal stuffs are inspired by classical pieces
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any example we can hear?smile.gif

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Forget classical-inspired... here's classical-integrated.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_B3n0MUgO4s
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QUOTE(kimmie @ Jan 30 2008, 09:48 AM)
added!!!:) now u r erhu consultant in this forum tongue.gif
Thanks. blush.gif Anyone would like to have a lesson? lol

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Classical and Metal? Check out some of Children of Bodom's earlier works. You'll find alot of their solos are classically inspired......
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Classical and Metal are similar in terms of their complex rhythm, harmony and melody.
Compared to mainstream pop and hip hop, classical and metal requires a far better musical ear to appreciate.
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QUOTE(PetroToxin @ Feb 3 2008, 01:51 AM)
Classical and Metal are similar in terms of their complex rhythm, harmony and melody.
Compared to mainstream pop and hip hop, classical and metal requires a far better musical ear to appreciate.
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well said.any classical and rock pieces u fancy?
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kimmie, mind switching me to viola? cos i'm a violist ^^ thanks~~ *ex violinist xD dont play anymore*

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QUOTE(onelove89 @ Feb 4 2008, 12:25 PM)
kimmie, mind switching me to viola? cos i'm a violist ^^ thanks~~ *ex violinist xD dont play anymore*
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ok noted one viola in the hse! thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(kimmie @ Feb 3 2008, 11:19 PM)
well said.any classical and rock pieces u fancy?
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Don't really listen to rock/metal any more these days...
For strings, I really like Brahms Violin Concerto. Especially the second movement.
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HAPPY CNY EVERYBODY!
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QUOTE(kimmie @ Feb 9 2008, 11:21 AM)
HAPPY CNY EVERYBODY!
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Happy CNY!!!
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yay thanks kimmie~ Happy CNY to all string family players ^^
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valentine is on the way.any choice of songs to serenade?smile.gif
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Just came across this thread. biggrin.gif

I play the violin semi professionally for some time now, and played for various private and open functions, normally in quartet setting. But now seldom play loh cause I'm focusing on pop music productions (mainly chinese industry). Almost never practice my violin now play like sh*t already... ohmy.gif

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QUOTE(pigcat @ Feb 11 2008, 05:27 PM)
Just came across this thread. biggrin.gif

I play the violin semi professionally for some time now, and played for various private and open functions, normally in quartet setting. But now seldom play loh cause I'm focusing on pop music productions (mainly chinese industry). Almost never practice my violin now play like sh*t already... ohmy.gif
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cool! added u to the list:) glad to have u around.should prac more:) so u r saying that u r into production like music engineering?
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QUOTE(kimmie @ Feb 11 2008, 09:45 PM)
cool! added u to the list:) glad to have u around.should prac more:) so u r saying that u r into production like music engineering?
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Thanks for adding me to the list!

Nope I'm not audio engineer, I'm a full time (also free lance) music arranger now. smile.gif

I have a friend who's MPO player, a Romanian, and his skill is like... shocking.gif rclxub.gif then I look at my playing... doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

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QUOTE(pigcat @ Feb 12 2008, 01:04 PM)
Thanks for adding me to the list!

Nope I'm not audio engineer, I'm a full time (also free lance) music arranger now. smile.gif

I have a friend who's MPO player, a Romanian, and his skill is like... shocking.gif  rclxub.gif  then I look at my playing... doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif
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i dont need to look at MPO, my friend in MPYO oready doh.gif makes my lausy playing skills look even more like crap xD But he's a violinist =D but listening to perlman play viola makes me feel bad too T.T I need serious training... even i doubt my way of holding my bow and vibrato T.T
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saying of vibrato, its really hard. needs a lot of time to practise. BTW, I hvnt learn vibrato yet....still a long way to go for me
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my vibrato came very natural to me says my former teacher mr.chye. but sometimes overlook it when playing with band members;p


Added on February 12, 2008, 5:41 pmactually learn my 1st vibrato through music concert video vanesse mae;p

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QUOTE(kimmie @ Feb 12 2008, 05:40 PM)
my vibrato came very natural to me says my former teacher mr.chye. but sometimes overlook it when playing with band members;p


Added on February 12, 2008, 5:41 pmactually learn my 1st vibrato through music concert video vanesse mae;p
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i learnt from my teacher, well, i see how he does, and follow him, he din teach me xD but in the end, my other friend told me how to do it properly, cos i was doing it wrongly.
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QUOTE(onelove89 @ Feb 12 2008, 04:54 PM)
i dont need to look at MPO, my friend in MPYO oready  doh.gif makes my lausy playing skills look even more like crap xD But he's a violinist =D but listening to perlman play viola makes me feel bad too T.T I need serious training... even i doubt my way of holding my bow and vibrato T.T
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Heh if you've watch perlman play bumble bee on cello you'll fainted, that guy is really multi talented... rclxub.gif

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saying of vibrato, its really hard. needs a lot of time to practise. BTW, I hvnt learn vibrato yet....still a long way to go for me
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Actually I learned vibrato in the very early stage, my teacher tought me a very useful way of doing it, it's the finger join excercise to "free up" the joins (hard to describe in words, though). Quite easy, i'll say, due to the method. My vibrato is the finger join way, which is the most traditional way. Have heard people talking about other way but I haven't really seen it in person. hmm.gif

Just wondering you guys/gals who play the violin, is that your primary instrument? I pickup violin quite late but my primary instrument is piano anyway.
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piano main. =) 2nd main instru = violin, then switch to viola.
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I learned from the internet that there were 2 types of vibrato, the wrist/hand vibrato and arm vibrato. I can't practise vibrato yet until i can get perfect intonation on my 1st postion.
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Wrist vibrato is the IMHO the "correct" one. Minimum movement is essential, save the hand movement for shifting instead. nod.gif
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QUOTE(pigcat @ Feb 12 2008, 06:10 PM)
Heh if you've watch perlman play bumble bee on cello you'll fainted, that guy is really multi talented... rclxub.gif
Actually I learned vibrato in the very early stage, my teacher tought me a very useful way of doing it, it's the finger join excercise to "free up" the joins (hard to describe in words, though). Quite easy, i'll say, due to the method. My vibrato is the finger join way, which is the most traditional way. Have heard people talking about other way but I haven't really seen it in person. hmm.gif

Just wondering you guys/gals who play the violin, is that your primary instrument? I pickup violin quite late but my primary instrument is piano anyway.
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SAME HERE!:) violin i took up when i was form 4...piano was my 1st instrument


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Wrist vibrato is the IMHO the "correct" one. Minimum movement is essential, save the hand movement for shifting instead. nod.gif
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cool..thanks for the tip:) btw to all romantic string lovers out there HAPPY VALENTINE DAY! biggrin.gif

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happy valentines to all string players. =)
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any events for strings player lately?
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Just thought of bump this thread a bit haha...

There're several chamber music going on MPO, have a look. Ticket very cheap only RM10, there're few interesting chamber pieces coming up so be sure to book ticket early! I went for the Beethoven violin sonata and Mendelson string quartet, nice!
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bad thing here is that i've no quartet, or friends to practice, so lonely playing viola myself =.=
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can always play with musicians in club / church etc:) im looking fow next month to get maybe a guitarist to play along with me
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Just thought of bump this thread a bit haha...

There're several chamber music going on MPO, have a look. Ticket very cheap only RM10, there're few interesting chamber pieces coming up so be sure to book ticket early! I went for the Beethoven violin sonata and Mendelson string quartet, nice!
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Yeah RM10 is a fair price.
But the best is still RM 15 Student price for any seat in the house. Including Premium brows.gif

Anyone here knows the age limit for student price?
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i dont think there is a limit..the last time someone around 25 went with his student card:)
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Hi all,

I stopped learning violin for about 3 months. I was waiting for a music school to assign a teacher for me but at last they do not have any teacher.

So I'm looking for a private teacher. Actually I learn for fun. Due to I'm a working adult, I may not able to have class every week. I heard from others there is pay-per-lesson class. Means I make appoitment with the teacher and pay after the lesson. Anyone know who is doing this?

Thanks.

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hi robert....as far ive known i never heard pay by lesson. if you find difficult to go for classes i suggest 2 days a month or weekend classes will do.u also need to set time aside for prac else whatever time spend on class will be wasted
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QUOTE(kimmie @ Mar 6 2008, 04:09 PM)
hi robert....as far ive known i never heard pay by lesson. if you find difficult to go for classes i suggest 2 days a month or weekend classes will do.u also need to set time aside for prac else whatever time spend on class will be wasted
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Hi kimmie... a class every 2 weeks is fine for me... do you have any teacher to recommand? I'm in KL. Thanks.
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which part of kl r u in? u can also try music schools like the one in sungai wang or city square
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QUOTE(kimmie @ Mar 10 2008, 04:13 PM)
which part of kl r u in? u can also try music schools like the one in sungai wang or city square
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I checked with many schools but the time that I wan is not available. I prefer private teacher.
I can go to any area in KL.


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hey guys, i'm a violin player also. put me in the list. LOL. really miss my violin. now lying at home.
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QUOTE(looisc @ Mar 11 2008, 11:57 AM)
hey guys, i'm a violin player also. put me in the list. LOL. really miss my violin. now lying at home.
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added!!! welcome welcome!:) what do u mean ur violin lying at home? as in u r not playing anymore or u r aboard somewhere else? tongue.gif


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QUOTE(robertonikammio @ Mar 10 2008, 04:36 PM)
I checked with many schools but the time that I wan is not available. I prefer private teacher.
I can go to any area in KL.

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i'll see how:) mesasge me ur number.ill try to get a contact...anyone else knows a private tutor in kl?

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If you're looking for private teacher, you can try to get in touch with orchestra players. DBKL, RTM, NSO, all teach and charge the fees per class. Be prepared that lowest rate of one class (45mins to 1hour on instrument only) is RM50, and some charge as high as RM120 or even RM200 (of course that's super profesional) per hour, usually regardless of what grade you are.
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from feedback ive heard even through they may be good performer but not all are good tutors:) gambateh
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pigcat,
i dun dare to get DBKL, RTM and NSO player as my teacher... i just learn for fun tongue.gif


kimmie,
i PM my hp no. to u.



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alreayd sms ur number out.thanks
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hi there!

i'm planning to take up violin but i'm totally clueless on getting the instrument.
planning to enrol with yamaha @ ioi mall as nearest to my place....

how to buy a violin when i dont even know what to look for? icon_question.gif
should i enrol for the class first and get the teacher to help out?

any good music shops selling the violins around subang/puchong area?

anyone know any violin classes around subang/puchong or near puchong?

thanks!


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QUOTE(storm04 @ Mar 23 2008, 05:32 AM)
hi there!

i'm planning to take up violin but i'm totally clueless on getting the instrument.
planning to enrol with yamaha @ ioi mall as nearest to my place....

how to buy a violin when i dont even know what to look for?  icon_question.gif 
should i enrol for the class first and get the teacher to help out?

any good music shops selling the violins around subang/puchong area?

anyone know any violin classes around subang/puchong or near puchong?

thanks!
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non good shops in puchong and sj as far as ive known......yamaha sells low end china instrument which is good for beginner....


here are the other info u need..ANYONE ELSE WANNA RECOMMEND WHERE TO GET VIOLIN FROM?smile.gif

http://musiced.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsit...obuyviolin.html

Tips on choosing a violin


http://www.stringsmagazine.com/issues/strings113/china.html - Very good china made violin for beginner



MUSIC SHOPS specialized on strings instruments

Euro Music Distributor Sdn.bhd.
CITY SQUARE (C10)
JALAN TUN RAZAK
03-21642389

this is the map how to get to citysquare
http://my.pagenation.com/kul/City%20Square....7201_3.161.map


Early Music Venture
Old Klang Rd,
Tmn Desa
(PENDING ADD, RECOMMENDED BY CRABJIM)
For violin, & repair etc.

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Best if you ask your teacher to help you out, but actually not really the best depends on your teacher (as some teacher will potong you with overpriced instruments cause he want to earn). But luckily my teacher is kind enough to happily bring nice instruments for me.

If you're serious about learning violin, you can always buy violin around RM1500 which you have a better sound to start with as the RM300 violins (some) has really harsh/thin sound. Don't worry about the resale value, violin generally has high resale value, with care from owner you can resale your violin virtually at same price you bought, and sometimes more cause violin's sound quality will increase over the years of usage.

Instruments available at Euro music is pretty nice.
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QUOTE(pigcat @ Mar 24 2008, 01:21 PM)
Best if you ask your teacher to help you out, but actually not really the best depends on your teacher (as some teacher will potong you with overpriced instruments cause he want to earn). But luckily my teacher is kind enough to happily bring nice instruments for me.

If you're serious about learning violin, you can always buy violin around RM1500 which you have a better sound to start with as the RM300 violins (some) has really harsh/thin sound. Don't worry about the resale value, violin generally has high resale value, with care from owner you can resale your violin virtually at same price you bought, and sometimes more cause violin's sound quality will increase over the years of usage.

Instruments available at Euro music is pretty nice.
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pigcat has a good point there....if u r really serious this may be a long term passion...get a good violin...the china ones are like dead wood..good enough to be burn but its great for ppl who are not really sure violin are their thing:)
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hi kimmie and pigcat
thanks a lot...
i might go to the city square to have a look. i assume there will be ppl to help me pick an instrument?

rm1500 .. a little steep... maybe i get a beginner violin first ... grow on it then change it when my skills evolve?...
i'm so eager to start the lesson....

some other questions :
in malaysia, the price includes the bow, case, shoulder rest, etc?
what should it be in the package? what should i look for? sorry, no experience in this...

thanks ya!
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usually violin would come in a case....bow included...but rosin, shoulder rest, books, extra strings must be brought separately....prices for china made beginner violin would cost around rm300-rm500 i guess
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i found these 2 articles informative :
1. http://www.zaretandsonsviolins.com/choosingviolin.html
2. http://www.zaretandsonsviolins.com/goodtoneviolin.html

but... dont really know most of the term... only thing i learned is must be LOUD....erm....

u think if i go to the shop they would have ppl there who know how to play? i obviously cant...
after reading from pigcat... i was thinking of getting a better beginner violin... around 500-1k...
so what can i get from that budget?

any suggestions on any brand? (i know not suppose to judge brand but ....)
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Hi Storm04, I bought my violin around RM700++ at Early Venture Music, Taman Danau Desa. the violin he introduced to me has a good tone for beginner. the maker is Eastman Strings. I'm quite satisfied with the sound comparing to the RM300 one. If you are aiming for a warmer tone, then you should consider the over RM1k's violin,older wood, wooden tailpiece + synthetic strings.
Last time when I bought my violin there, the boss there explained almost everything about the violin to me. you should go there and take a look. I don't have the address now.
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QUOTE(crabjim @ Mar 25 2008, 12:54 PM)
Hi Storm04, I bought my violin around RM700++ at Early Venture Music, Taman Danau Desa. the violin he introduced to me has a good tone for beginner. the maker is Eastman Strings. I'm quite satisfied with the sound comparing to the RM300 one. If you are aiming for a warmer tone, then you should consider the over RM1k's violin,older wood, wooden tailpiece + synthetic strings.
Last time when I bought my violin there, the boss there explained almost everything about the violin to me. you should go there and take a look. I don't have the address now.
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hi crabjim
i think i would like warmer tone... actually i was also considering taking cello as i love the mellow sound... but it is so hard to get a teacher as i asked several shops. no cello teacher...

hmm. is it possible to find out more about the shop contact?

sorry, i'm kinda geography challenged. taman danau desa is same as desa water park rite?
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Click on the maps, I think its located somewhere near the circle. The shop is located at the first floor. If im not mistaken, downstair is video rental shop. Hope you can locate it. You might as well ask for cello class there. I think they have teacher who can teach cellos. Hope i din give the wrong info.
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Hi, I'm interested in picking up violin but, is it possible to learn by myself? I have very little music background (Near to none)
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QUOTE(wakakaka @ Mar 26 2008, 12:40 AM)
Hi, I'm interested in picking up violin but, is it possible to learn by myself? I have very little music background (Near to none)
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i have thought of that but i would prefer to go for classes.... at least until i can get tue fundamentals correct.
i've yet to enrol in a class too but without any knowledge of violin playing, i wouldnt know if i was even holding the violin correctly ... rclxub.gif
as for reading the notes, i guess you can learn it yourself but i do have piano background

have you bought your violin? if yes, where, what and how much you got yours? (sorry ya, very typical asian question : how much, ah? laugh.gif )


Added on March 26, 2008, 4:15 pmi bought the violin!!!! i'm so excited ..... and broke

thx for recommending euro music. the lady vivian is very nice

she actually know my ex-piano teacher!! what a small world.

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erm, not yet buy...i need to confirm first if it is possible to learn it by myself or not through books (Violin for dummies, etc...) coz i no time take violin class...
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maybe you need a tutor for the first few months, coz you definitely need them to correct you on your postures and methods. If you really wanna learn on your own, you can do a search on youtube. Benchanviolin and ProfessorV, they are both violin instructors. you can watch their earlier posts on violin basics.
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ok more updates on my purchases...

total spent around 1k include

- violin outfit (bow, rosin, oblong case)
- extra set of dominant string
- shoulder rest
- music stand

so the violin i bought - eurostring 300... yea, it's a made-in-china. actually i was not really sure to get it until the lady introduced me to a customer who plays with the bandaraya .. he was very kind... he did a quick tuning and played a short tune. i fell in love... with the violin of course... the sound was rich and LOUD... maybe cos he expert and know how to play it well. but he also agreed the violin got BIG tone.
anyone with the similar violin? yea i know i bought it already but anyone with any opinion?

suppose to get a chromatic tuner but was too excited and forgot about it... any suggestions on tuner?

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QUOTE(wakakaka @ Mar 26 2008, 12:40 AM)
Hi, I'm interested in picking up violin but, is it possible to learn by myself? I have very little music background (Near to none)
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Violin is very difficult to learn without a proper tutor, you definitely need a teacher to teach you and you'll learn way more quickily than having to do hair tearing trying to figuring out basics. Most importantly, you'll always ask yourself a question - am I doing the right thing?

Also it's advisable to learn some theory at least until grade 3~5 (which covered all the useful stuffs). I stopped at grade 5 anyway... sweat.gif

QUOTE(storm04 @ Mar 27 2008, 02:59 AM)
ok more updates on my purchases...

total spent around 1k include

- violin outfit (bow, rosin, oblong case)
- extra set of dominant string
- shoulder rest
- music stand

so the violin i bought - eurostring 300... yea, it's a made-in-china. actually i was not really sure to get it until the lady introduced me to a customer who plays with the bandaraya .. he was very kind... he did a quick tuning and played a short tune. i fell in love... with the violin of course... the sound was rich and LOUD... maybe cos he expert and know how to play it well. but he also agreed the violin got BIG tone.
anyone with the similar violin? yea i know i bought it already but anyone with any opinion?

suppose to get a chromatic tuner but was too excited and forgot about it... any suggestions on tuner?
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Gratz to your wonderful purchase! biggrin.gif Yeah Vivian is a very helpful and nice person!

Yes it's always possible for cheaper violin to sounds loud and rich, as violin is made of wood by hands (even they're made from so-called factory). And you're lucky that you've got a violin player to choose and test for you! Normally customer will be blur blur and buy violin which they don't have much idea of the potential of the violin.

You'll need a tuner to check the tuning of all 4 strings. But when you've advanced to certain level you can start to learn tuning the A string using the tuner, and tune the rest following the A strings (that's the note that the whole orchestra will check when tuning).

Some care about violin and what you should/shouldn't do:

1. Wipe the white powder after each use (the powder is the rosin on your bow, they'll drop on the violin when playing). They're acidic so you have to wipe them off with dry cloth everytime or else they'll stick there forever and hard to clean. Oh and do not apply too much rosin to the bow hair, just can make sound with ease without powder coming out then ok.

2. Try not to mess around with the bridge and the soundpost (the wood stick inside the body which you can see from the "f" hole). The bridge is not glued and it'll fall down if all the strings are loosen at once, and without top pressure, the wood stick inside will also fall down as it's not glue'd too, without the stick your violin will sounds horrible, and it need a pro to set it up, slight changes in position will cause the sound to change dramatically. If it really happened to your violin, bring back to Euro Music as the owner Calvin will fix it cause he's also string instrument repairman.

3. Change the strings one by one, reason as mentioned above.

4. Always loosen the bow after use, or else the tension will damage the wood stick and it'll lose its curve and will feel dead when playing.

5. Do not have the shoulder rest set too narrow to clamp the body too tight, it'll damped the sound and responsiveness.

6. Do not leave your violin in a hot environment! The painting of the violin will melt and worse the glue that hold the wood pieces will come off.

I think that's about it, try not to knock your violin to cause nicks and dings so you can always sell it off in the future for higher value. wink.gif

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hey pigcat
thanks for your advice!

i've found a violin class! and yahoo!!! it's so near my place too. there's this place "de music" ... they sell instruments too.. until today only i notice the shop there... haiz.. if know earlier no need to go down to kl . smile.gif but is ok la.... nice experience to meet ppl oso.

no la... the guy who played my violin didnt choose for me la... i was sam si si wanna buy or not ... then he was there to get some books and vivian requested him to play and i was hooked smile.gif


yahoo... tomorrow i will be starting my lessons!!! (i hope i wont do some embarrassing stunts ... i'm so ever clumsy....) flex.gif

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Storm04, Good luck to you. hope you enjoyed your lesson.
BTW, where is the music school u learned from. Im looking for teacher as well.
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It is been a while. I saw the list, it was long. Wow.
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Storm04, Good luck to you. hope you enjoyed your lesson.
BTW, where is the music school u learned from. Im looking for teacher as well.
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it's in bandar puteri puchong.
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QUOTE(storm04 @ Mar 28 2008, 12:07 AM)
it's in bandar puteri puchong.
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May I know where is the actual location?
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May I know where is the actual location?
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are you familiar with bandar puteri puchong?
if yes, it is directly opposite bumbu bali ... (2 roads away...in the opposite direction lo) corner shop, 1st floor. it is above a steamboat shop.
hmm... i will take a photo tomorrow when i go lesson...

actually i told alex, the guy in charge, to make the sign more attractive lo.... cos it is like faded liao and not really noticeable... some more no website...
i mean if make a simple website a just create a blogsite oso ok. just put name, sign, contact... put words like violin,cello, music, lessons.... and of course puchong, selangor, malaysia
at least when ppl do a search can find them mar rite? smile.gif businesss man business...

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i just realised that the bridge is slightly leaning towards the scrolls.... is it normal??
i suppose the teacher can adjust it tonite rite?
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nope, the bridge should be standing straight on the body. hopefully ur teacher know how to adjust.
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Unless your teacher know what he/she's doing, or else it'll get worse.

If your teacher know what to do, he/she'll probably loosen the strings one by one, and use a pencil and apply it on the groove on the bridge. It act like a lubricator, so when the strings are tighten again the bridge won't be pulled towards the scroll, and with the lubrication you can simply pull the bridge slightly without the need of loosen the strings.

That said, if there's no problem, better not touch it, as strings instruments are very delicate and fragile instruments (I learned the hard way lol!). Best bring back to Euro music to fix it. smile.gif
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nice violin storm04....what cam did u use? and all the best on ur 1st class:)
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Storm04, share with us on your 1st lesson.....All the best and have fun!!
I had stopped my class, planning to start again on May.
My friends just taught me D on 3rd Position and gave me a lot of score to study. hehe!!
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kimmie - cam = oly e500


hmm... just came back....

played some open string and hands damn tired....
he was ok. but kinda quiet a little... hmm at time felt a little awkward.. maybe cos i very talkative...
but the teacher doesnt really stress on correct posture....hmm...

he just ketuk a little on the bridge to correct it but it works la...

took a photo of the shop from outside but dark d and lauya phone so picture tak jadi.... gomene!


so did you guys use a mute? i just bought one... everything $$$...

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last time my tutor quite good, she stressed on posture and bow-grip in the first few classes. When you are good enough, she'll focus on the richness of ur sound. too bad she isn't free during weekends. Nvm, I'll start looking for new tutor on April.
I din use a mute, i just make sure my housemates heard the awful sound...hehe
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hmm. actually a few that i asked, teachers are only available on sunday cos they said all full liao.

mute really helps to quieten down kiyoshi smile.gif but leave some black marks on the bridge though....

heheh i named my violin kiyoshi. do you guys name your instrument? cos i was thinking that we will be spending loads of time together ... anyone as crazy as me out there?

i oso noticed no one posts their instrument pix here? erm i guess i'm overexcited one here, eh?
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kiyoshi? sounds like japanese. You have a great sense of art, you like photography and arts?

can intro to me if the violin teacher is free on Sunday and at around PJ area...thx

PS: must willing to teach adult like me tongue.gif

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yup japanese name but it's china violin smile.gif

IOI mall yamaha got a lady teacher according to the manager there. she only has slot for sunday.
pm you the hp of the another lady in charge of musikgarden (or something like tat) it's for todds but she said they teach addult also.
currently the teacher only have sundays slot.

i'm a little worried now ... i'm having quite a hard time adjusting my grip on the bow.... how long did u guys take to perfect this?
and i tried to play some fingering and i feel my fingers so stiff like cannot hold down the string properly cry.gif maybe too old liao fingers stiff liao? cry.gif
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thx for the contact. Im not perfect in holding the bow yet, but a lot better than before. you need to train your pinkie's strength a lot.
Refer here:
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Important:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1wnbFPRRMc
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QUOTE(Cello @ Mar 27 2008, 11:40 PM)
It is been a while. I saw the list, it was long. Wow.
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thx for the contact. Im not perfect in holding the bow yet, but a lot better than before. you need to train your pinkie's strength a lot.
Refer here:
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QUOTE(storm04 @ Mar 29 2008, 01:19 AM)
hmm. actually a few that i asked, teachers are only available on sunday cos they said all full liao.

mute really helps to quieten down kiyoshi smile.gif but leave some black marks on the bridge though....

heheh i named my violin kiyoshi. do you guys name your instrument? cos i was thinking that we will be spending loads of time together ... anyone as crazy as me out there?

i oso noticed no one posts their instrument pix here? erm i guess i'm overexcited one here, eh?
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kiyoshi? sounds like japanese. You have a great sense of art, you like photography and arts?

can intro to me if the violin teacher is free on Sunday and at around PJ area...thx

PS: must willing to teach adult like me tongue.gif
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are you familiar with bandar puteri puchong?
if yes, it is directly opposite bumbu bali ... (2 roads away...in the opposite direction lo) corner shop, 1st floor. it is above a steamboat shop.
hmm... i will take a photo tomorrow when i go lesson...

actually i told alex, the guy in charge, to make the sign more attractive lo.... cos it is like faded liao and not really noticeable... some more no website...
i mean if make a simple website a just create a blogsite oso ok. just put name, sign, contact... put words like violin,cello, music, lessons.... and of course puchong, selangor, malaysia
at least when ppl do a search can find them mar rite? smile.gif businesss man business...
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I am very interested to go there. Take a photo and if it is okay with you, can you tell me the address? Or at least show me in Wikimapia.org?
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seems getting more ppl learning violin smile.gif
too bad puchong is too far for me... i'm looking for teacher too...
anyone of you have facebook account? if yes you can add me: Kam Fong Yui-Yoyo

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i'm a little worried now ...  i'm having quite a hard time adjusting my grip on the bow.... how long did u guys take to perfect this?
and i tried to play some fingering and i feel my fingers so stiff like cannot hold down the string properly  cry.gif  maybe too old liao fingers stiff liao? cry.gif
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It'll take quite some time for your finger to get used to playing instruments. Just like the very first time you hold a playstation joypad and trying to perform some moves in games. How long it'll take is individual dependent, just be patient, and practice is the only way to overcome the problem.

By the way mind to tell what's your age? biggrin.gif
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I am very interested to go there. Take a photo and if it is okay with you, can you tell me the address? Or at least show me in Wikimapia.org?
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i took a photo with my lousy hp but it didnt quite turn out.
however, i have the address :
de music box
1-1, Jln Puteri 4/1, Bandar Puteri, 47100 Puchong
60 3 8060 0515


QUOTE(pigcat @ Mar 30 2008, 09:46 PM)
It'll take quite some time for your finger to get used to playing instruments. Just like the very first time you hold a playstation joypad and trying to perform some moves in games. How long it'll take is individual dependent, just be patient, and practice is the only way to overcome the problem.

By the way mind to tell what's your age? biggrin.gif
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hmm... to tell u the truth ... i never held a playstation joypad before ... but yea... i guess it takes practice ...
btw,i'm a flower power kid
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anyway ... i found a online tuner which i found useful.
http://www.get-tuned.com/violin_tuner.php
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QUOTE(storm04 @ Mar 30 2008, 11:58 PM)
i took a photo with my lousy hp but it didnt quite turn out.
however, i have the address :
de music box
1-1, Jln Puteri 4/1, Bandar Puteri, 47100 Puchong
60 3 8060 0515
hmm... to tell u the truth ... i never held a playstation joypad before ... but yea... i guess it takes practice ...
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seems getting more ppl learning violin smile.gif
too bad puchong is too far for me... i'm looking for teacher too...
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i took a photo with my lousy hp but it didnt quite turn out.
however, i have the address :
de music box
1-1, Jln Puteri 4/1, Bandar Puteri, 47100 Puchong
60 3 8060 0515
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I will be there someday, thanks! =)
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who can play the violin part for this song...."Suteki Dane"?
I love the way they make the violin cry.
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I've officially quitted playing violin, so kimmie you shall remove my name from the list.

Also I've quitted LYN, so this is my last post here.

Buh bye... biggrin.gif
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so sad to hear that
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who can play the violin part for this song...."Suteki Dane"?
I love the way they make the violin cry.
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Gosh, I think you need to make it clear. It is a viola!

And yes, I can play that but I do not have it on sheet, it is all on my mind.

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QUOTE(Cello @ Apr 1 2008, 10:08 PM)
Gosh, I think you need to make it clear. It is a viola!

And yes, I can play that but I do not have it on sheet, it is all on my mind.

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Im practising the song "Ashitaka to San" now tongue.gif
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You are welcome.

Final Fantasy sheet music is hard to find. I play most of them through ears. Too bad I cannot make it into an orchestra piece.

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QUOTE(Cello @ Apr 1 2008, 10:19 PM)
You are welcome.

Final Fantasy sheet music is hard to find. I play most of them through ears. Too bad I cannot make it into an orchestra piece.

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me too, but im still new to violin....i cant play well. still need a lot of time to practise the basic.
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is it possible to learn violin alone? and how much is needed for beginner to start up? as in the equipment and such
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It is possible but extremely hard. If you compare with guitar, the violin is fretless and there is no chords. Everything about violin is all reading sheet music, no tabs at all.

If you came across guitar classes, it is the same.

Cheapest China made violin will costs around RM400, class registration and books (various prices from RM20 to RM50).

If you are staying in Puchong area, I can provide you classes.

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cheapest china violin RM400?
i thought i saw some around RM200 before.

but heck, who said violin is meant to be played the traditional way?
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cheapest china violin RM400?
i thought i saw some around RM200 before.

but heck, who said violin is meant to be played the traditional way?
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Cello, you teach violin? how much per month?

BTW, I'll be starting my new lesson starting next week....so happy!!!
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Cello, you teach violin? how much per month?
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Yes, I do. If you are really in my area, I will tell you.
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aiks u didnt inform earlier ... i was looking for one in puchong.
but now already under going lessons...

mind if telling your teaching experience, etc?
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aiks u didnt inform earlier ... i was looking for one in puchong.
but now already under going lessons...

mind if telling your teaching experience, etc?
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Hmmm..I thought that you have already in another class.

I have been teaching for about 5 years now as a music teacher.

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Grade 8 or diploma? Maybe i can recommend my friend. she'll be moving to Puchong next month
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Hmmm..I thought that you have already in another class.

I have been teaching for about 5 years now as a music teacher.

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yea... already in a class. although he plays in some orchestra rtm or bandaraya... but he's rather young and only taught for a year...
but yea.. i will still continue under him until maybe i need better teacher...
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Grade 8 or diploma? Maybe i can recommend my friend. she'll be moving to Puchong next month
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Diploma.

QUOTE(storm04 @ Apr 4 2008, 03:13 PM)
yea... already in a class. although he plays in some orchestra rtm or bandaraya... but he's rather young and only taught for a year...
but yea.. i will still continue under him until maybe i need better teacher...
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part A
just wondering did you guys do any hand exercise before and after playing ....

i guess i'm new in this ... my fingers are so stiff (probably due to age too tongue.gif )
after practicing for like 15 mins my rite thumb and pinky kinda hurt.
and left arm kinda lenguh ... and i only playing open string!! sweat.gif

so give some opinions on
- what you normally do b4 and after playing
- exercise to strenghten your arms, fingers (especially the pinky!)

part B
i'm trying to get some good classical cd (ori pls...)

i seen something like the complete works of beethovan, etc. in an event but totally forgot to buy it after go shopping for shoes (well it's a girl thing...)
now i go in to many many shops ... all have limited choices n most is like a compilation of different composers, part of the composition e.g. moonlight sonata... always first movement only...
guess i'm sort of a purist.. blush.gif i like to have a set of a composer .. perhaps the complete works, etc...

so where do you guys buy classical cd?

thanks ya.
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part A
just wondering did you guys do any hand exercise before and after playing ....

i guess i'm new in this ... my fingers are so stiff (probably due to age too  tongue.gif )
after practicing for like 15 mins my rite thumb and pinky kinda hurt.
and left arm kinda lenguh ... and i only playing open string!!  sweat.gif

so give some opinions on
- what you normally do b4 and after playing
- exercise to strenghten your arms, fingers (especially the pinky!)

part B
i'm trying to get some good classical cd (ori pls...)

i seen something like the complete works of beethovan, etc. in an event but totally forgot to buy it after go shopping for shoes (well it's a girl thing...)
now i go in to many many shops ... all have limited choices n most is like a compilation of different composers, part of the composition e.g. moonlight sonata... always first movement only...
guess i'm sort of a purist..  blush.gif  i like to have a set of a composer .. perhaps the complete works, etc...

so where do you guys buy classical cd?

thanks ya.
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Part A,
I do not exercise before playing anything. Just take my instruments and play it.

I think your teacher did not teach you the real way of holding the bow. Your thumb finger do not have to go into the fork fully, half of it is fine. Your thumb and pinky will hurt after you grab and grip your bow too strong, do not grab it, just take the bow softly.

For your left arm, goodness, it is hard to describe in words. Make sure your thumb and your index finger are touching the end of the violin neck. Also do not grab the neck with your left hand, just put your left arm in position without using any strength on the violin.

I wonder, why your teacher did not teach you these basics first.

Part B,
CDs...hmmm..I used to buy CDs back in the old days in Tower Records classical section, those are like few years ago. Today, it is all gone, even jazz. cry.gif So right now I am buying classical music on iTunes Store, the best part is I can choose individual track on every CD list. But I am still buying CDs but the place I know is my music school. My music school have a bigger variety of classical.

Questions:
1. How old are you?
2. Why do you choose to learn violin?
3. How many music classes you have attended?

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Part A,
I do not exercise before playing anything. Just take my instruments and play it.

I think your teacher did not teach you the real way of holding the bow. Your thumb finger do not have to go into the fork fully, half of it is fine. Your thumb and pinky will hurt after you grab and grip your bow too strong, do not grab it, just take the bow softly.

For your left arm, goodness, it is hard to describe in words. Make sure your thumb and your index finger are touching the end of the violin neck. Also do not grab the neck with your left hand, just put your left arm in position without using any strength on the violin.

I wonder, why your teacher did not teach you these basics first.
thanks for the advice...
that's the reason i'm a little disappointed in the teacher at the first lesson cos he didnt emphasize on posture.
but on second lesson, i was thinking i better be proactive and ask... so i asked more questions on posture and he taught.
imo, good violinist might not be a good teacher.....

and that's why i sounded like i am looking for another teacher... cos i dont want to so use to the wrong posture that it is hard to change in future...
but i dunno how to tell them i wanna leave, if i am leaving? sad.gif

QUOTE(Cello @ Apr 5 2008, 07:03 PM)
Part A,
Part B,
CDs...hmmm..I used to buy CDs back in the old days in Tower Records classical section, those are like few years ago. Today, it is all gone, even jazz. cry.gif So right now I am buying classical music on iTunes Store, the best part is I can choose individual track on every CD list. But I am still buying CDs but the place I know is my music school. My music school have a bigger variety of classical.
where's your music school? do they sell complete works or something like tat?

QUOTE(Cello @ Apr 5 2008, 07:03 PM)
Part A,
Questions:
1. How old are you?
2. Why do you choose to learn violin?
3. How many music classes you have attended?

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1. kinda old smile.gif 30+
2. i have always been interested in violin when i was young. but piano was a trend ... so like all kiasu parents i was pushed to learn piano. well i would have like it if not because the lessons were so exam oriented... and teacher didnt make it as enjoyable. and i suck in piano.... smile.gif maybe lack of practice now.... i love its sound.... dunno why but i just love it... and i'm a great fan of classical music...
3. coming tues will be my third violin lesson...

in msia i guess this thing called trial classes is practically unheard of. i dont mind paying for them but at least i am able to gauge in the trial classes that the teacher is suitable for me or perhaps i'm suitable for the teacher... i saw sim got trial class but it's too far for me to travel to any of their music centers.

maybe you can pm me your lesson details (which day/time/slot available, fees, etc)?
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still finding the right way to vibrato, its been quite a problem for me these says, it seems unnatural and it shakes my viola when i'm doing it, disrupting the flow of the bow.
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yeah, basically i'm trying to learn from basics again, trying to find the source of problem. Hmm, learning wrist and hand vibrato at the same time, I quite dont get it, how come there are 2 types? Do we use both? or one only?
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yeah, basically i'm trying to learn from basics again, trying to find the source of problem. Hmm, learning wrist and hand vibrato at the same time, I quite dont get it, how come there are 2 types? Do we use both? or one only?
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I studied both of it and I am using hand vibrato. Choose the one that you feel comfortable with it.

You know when the first time we learn to use the fingerboard to find the accurate note, it is like finding your correct vibrato in the same time. It takes some time.

Always remember the correct posture. if it is not, things will go wrong no matter how we play next time. The basic is important.

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yup very very important, i'm more comfortable with wrist vibrato , i've been using tat since i somehow "learn" vibrato, I'm practising both though, wrist and hand, and looking into the mirror as i play, ensure 90 degree on my hand, and stuff like tat >< what are the basics? i mean what does it include?
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It cannot be describe in words. Have to be practically show you in person. Did you ask your teacher about that?
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haha i'm overseas now studying, so cant ask my teacher >< need to wait. Its ok, thanks cello, I'll look up for some more info on basics and see which part i'm doing it wrong or somewhat xD I find hand vibrato quite comfortable but wrist is ok too. So yeah, but first, back to basics =)
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Alright. Always keep the basic in your mind. If you lose it, it is like losing your vision.
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I'm also playing the violin. Anybody wants to buy my violin? Made in China. A student outfit. Call me for more details

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i had my 1st violin lesson today. man, m shoulder is tired. and is so hard to hold the bow still. i keep touched the other string sad.gif
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i had my 1st violin lesson today. man, m shoulder is tired. and is so hard to hold the bow still. i keep touched the other string sad.gif
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It is normal that you will touch other strings, first lessons are always difficult.

Remember not to grip the violin using your shoulder and chin, just put it in position. The fact is playing violin will never make your shoulder and chin unless you hold it in the wrong position. For the bow, just get used to it. Ask more from your teacher.

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i'm learning up wrist vibrato now, got bit of idea what is wrong, i think my holding position aint tat right even though its 90 degree. so need to correct it somehow.
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what makes me tired is to hang my hand at mid air for such a long time. and is so hard to get the right note! it aint like guitar tat u can refer to the fret. violin is like... d just hope tat u got the right note...
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QUOTE(jikolo @ Apr 13 2008, 10:52 PM)
i had my 1st violin lesson today. man, m shoulder is tired. and is so hard to hold the bow still. i keep touched the other string sad.gif
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i spend 30min everyday last time just to get the right position for holding the bow. got some help from a friend who now studying music too, intensif training on how to hold bow.

i think if not wrong after awhile, teacher notice i hold bow very well and praise me for it.

Work hard and u get good results.

they are no shortcuts.

teacher guides, u practise.

No practise= no result.

if u play only once a week during lesson, comparing training 7 days a week, u are only learn 7 times slower than others.


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Diploma.
Alright, remember to always keep practicing. smile.gif
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cello, kinda personal question, but why didnt countinue for degree overseas??

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storm04,
You are welcome.

Well, if you want to leave, it is okay. You will not hurt anyone

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By reading your reply, you can be a good student if you push yourself to practice more.

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You can start to try gripping your viola for a bit and do vibrato. Advisable with a shoulder rest.
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QUOTE(icypetals @ Apr 14 2008, 04:12 PM)
cello, kinda personal question, but why didnt countinue for degree overseas??

ZOMG, u are a boy!
long long ago,my friend say u is girl, with GIRL TAG!
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Certificates are useless if you take a deep look. More over, I am studying my second diploma now.

Since when I put on the female tag??
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Certificates are useless if you take a deep look. More over, I am studying my second diploma now.

Since when I put on the female tag??
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like since i donno.

certificates are useless, yes, ut an firm basic education is required for lasting career. they are too many diploma everywher.

we must try to strive for degree or masters in oversea university/colleges.

during those time, we will be expose to more gerne of music, understnading, and learn more things. we must not confine ourself only to malaysia.

oh well, i have no right to speak for u
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Career wise, right now I am satisfied with it. I would like to express that I do not live my life for money or easy living.

One more thing, diplomas are everywhere. If you know something about most college, those students used to bride for assignments. Which is asking for friends to help them out and pay the ones who helped them. Just like corruption. For music, I do not think it is possible unless students bride examiners (not lecturers).

One last important thing, skills are nothing. Passion and understanding music is the core of being a musician.

A degree? So what? Can you explain why Beethoven wrote Fur Elise for? Or how does pentatonic scales works? How does chords was formed?

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taking LTCL?
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Yes.
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mind post a video of you playing? i'm curious how LTCL level plays. did you choose zigeunerweisen as one of your pieces? drool.gif

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QUOTE(Cello @ Apr 14 2008, 10:21 PM)
Career wise, right now I am satisfied with it. I would like to express that I do not live my life for money or easy living.

One more thing, diplomas are everywhere. If you know something about most college, those students used to bride for assignments. Which is asking for friends to help them out and pay the ones who helped them. Just like corruption. For music, I do not think it is possible unless students bride examiners (not lecturers).

One last important thing, skills are nothing. Passion and understanding music is the core of being a musician.

A degree? So what? Can you explain why Beethoven wrote Fur Elise for? Or how does pentatonic scales works? How does chords was formed?

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i understand what you mean.

but an oversea education will bring much exposure to the world of music rather than closing our doors only to malaysia.

and thou we dont make music for money, we still need money to live.

is a win-win situation going oversea.
u are more expose to music and better understnading to musical culture oversea. u will be more informative and bring back a new set knowlege.

passion and understanding music is the core of being a musician, YEs!
but u can get more passion and understanding overseas!

We must try to expand our knowlege.

a wise person who have much wisdom thinks that he does not know enough.

that are so many more things to learn, try to expand the view.

hopefully u dont flame me back and try to understand what im saying.

As donald trump stats:" even if you have skills and passion, without a basic education, you are nothing".

we must think for our future as well. u must try to get further education if possible.
And going overseas means learning more!
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he probably thought FTCL is the end of learning journey. hmm.gif

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he probably thought FTCL is the end of learning journey. hmm.gif
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maybe.
there are still far more things to learn where we cant get in malaysia.

why would a person want a master degree teacher than a diploma?
easy, he has more knowlege.

i rather have a teacher who is expose much to the world and understand many things, rather than a teacher thinking that having a diploma and can play well means u are the best.
many ppl can play well, look at the prodigies all over the world, BUT is the understanding and knowlege that counts.
thou, learning has no ends.

hopefully he gets that into his head.

no offense.


Added on April 15, 2008, 2:32 pmoh ya, added: example: why do ppl study accounts in college/uni when they already know accounts?

Why do ppl study science in uni when they already know sience?

why do ppl study arts when do already know arts?

cello, im sorry to say this, but i always look highly at u and take every of ur comment seriously as i look up apon you, but ur recent few comments make me disapoointed badly

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mind post a video of you playing? i'm curious how LTCL level plays. did you choose zigeunerweisen as one of your pieces? drool.gif
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yeah i wanna see too. zigeunerweisen is crazy, i only played the accompaniment in viola, and my 16 year old friend is playing the solo =.= gosh, he's damn good.
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we must think for our future as well. u must try to get further education if possible.
And going overseas means learning more!
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Agreed and I am funding to get away from this country actually. Nothing much I can say.

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he probably thought FTCL is the end of learning journey. hmm.gif
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No, there is still more and endless.

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cello, im sorry to say this, but i always look highly at u and take every of ur comment seriously as i look up apon you, but ur recent few comments make me disapoointed badly
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It is okay. For the questions up there because they just want that freaking certificate. Common answer but I do not look up on that. My humble point is that I do not like people who thinks that certificate is powerful.

What are we talking is degree in the beginning. Personally, I still think degree is not a must. Just me, alright?

And little ice. Sorry that I could not as I do not have recording equipment. I thought of this some time back.

No, I did not choose Zigeunerweisen. I am a cellist, nothing special for me in that piece (just my view). I choose Beethoven's Fifth and Ninth, Mozart and Bach that I have forgot. Conducted Beethoven's Piano Sonata #14 with self orchestra arrangement for my exam.

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And little ice. Sorry that I could not as I do not have recording equipment. I thought of this some time back.

No, I did not choose Zigeunerweisen. I am a cellist, nothing special for me in that piece (just my view). I choose Beethoven's Fifth and Ninth, Mozart and Bach that I have forgot. Conducted Beethoven's Piano Sonata #14 with self orchestra arrangement for my exam.[/color]
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it's alright. biggrin.gif

oh i didn't know you're cellist! dang i should have noticed since your big name written there Cello lol! paiseh! doh.gif
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QUOTE(Cello @ Apr 15 2008, 08:42 PM)
Agreed and I am funding to get away from this country actually. Nothing much I can say.
No, there is still more and endless.
It is okay. For the questions up there because they just want that freaking certificate. Common answer but I do not look up on that. My humble point is that I do not like people who thinks that certificate is powerful.

What are we talking is degree in the beginning. Personally, I still think degree is not a must. Just me, alright?

And little ice. Sorry that I could not as I do not have recording equipment. I thought of this some time back.

No, I did not choose Zigeunerweisen. I am a cellist, nothing special for me in that piece (just my view). I choose Beethoven's Fifth and Ninth, Mozart and Bach that I have forgot. Conducted Beethoven's Piano Sonata #14 with self orchestra arrangement for my exam.

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ooh thumbup.gif

At last XD end of flame war.

those ppl who go for cert why do we need to bother them? just let them be. they go there siok siok because their parents are rich=.=

we are the kind where we need to save just for an oversea education doh.gif

well, for career wise, a degree is vital for a stable future. u wont want to be a diploma holder for the rest of your life=.=
and yes, cant wish to see the enviroment oversea, all the knowledge!

im planning for a masters T.T hopefully save enough+loan cry.gif

for me, the more u study, the more u gain, the more u travel, the more you learn, the more you work, the more you receive.
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may i ask. for music, there's career path?
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At last XD end of flame war.

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for me, the more u study, the more u gain, the more u travel, the more you learn, the more you work, the more you receive.
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Once again I would want to apologize that I am not feeling well these lately, so my words came out are wrong.

Talking about education, degree is the highest of all. Master classes are exist but those are offered by experienced famous professionals. Keeping it clear, master is not a paper education.

I know there is a musician who is holding a diploma for the rest of his life, he is not around anymore. He passed away at the age of 80, he is a famous performer back then. I know him but I forgot his name , I study his history in my history studies. Conclusion, if really wants to go big, just take the effort to degree or master.

Even my boss, he is just a diploma holder and he is doing quite well today.

We need money to live but there is not a need to be crazy for money.


QUOTE(jikolo @ Apr 16 2008, 10:39 PM)
may i ask. for music, there's career path?
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got tons of career path leh.

if you're learning violin, you can become violin virtuoso, teacher, orchestra player, play for functions/events. apart from instruments specialist, there's also music composer, arranger, film scoring, conductor, music transcribe.

that's only classical music type leh. there's also a long list if we're going to talk about modern music. icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(Cello @ Apr 16 2008, 10:49 PM)
Once again I would want to apologize that I am not feeling well these lately, so my words came out are wrong.

Talking about education, degree is the highest of all. Master classes are exist but those are offered by experienced famous professionals. Keeping it clear, master is not a paper education.

I know there is a musician who is holding a diploma for the rest of his life, he is not around anymore. He passed away at the age of 80, he is a famous performer back then. I know him but I forgot his name , I study his history in my history studies. Conclusion, if really wants to go big, just take the effort to degree or master.

Even my boss, he is just a diploma holder and he is doing quite well today.

We need money to live but there is not a need to be crazy for money.

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ya, u can go far with a diploma.

but why stop if u can study further?? there is no pain learning more!

yup, if u want to be a millionare. dont be a musician.

but sometimes i see many music teachers who are not dedicated, they dont even have a good music education, they teach just because of the money, and when student come in, they give abit of theory homework, and walk out of the class to chit-chat. haiz.......... this kind of teacher ruins the beauty of the music and destroys the student's passion. they dont bother bout the student, and they are not dedicated.

I feel very lucky to have a good music teacher.
he ask me go down penang to find him during school holiday and he will take me around kai kai and discuss about my future.
he will always take me around places when there is oppurtunity.
lucky to have such a dedicated teacher
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ya, u can go far with a diploma.

but why stop if u can study further?? there is no pain learning more!

yup, if u want to be a millionare. dont be a musician.

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Alright, I am putting the spoiler because of avoiding long posts.

I have a plan, I wanted to be a performer, a singer/songwriter that most "modern musician" does today. I came this far with diploma is to at least know the proper education of music. So I think you got my idea of being a musician but what you said is good. There is a problem of me is I do not have the fund to continue degree, my parents have a problem on that.

I worked in the other music school before, I saw guitar teacher teach guitar tabs instead of notation. More over, they are just play-by-ear guitar player. That which is disappoints me the most. Talking about teachers giving less lesson in a class, that is applied to all the teachers in the previous music school that I worked with. It disappoints me even thought it is not by business. I did not debate with them, I know what is going to happen if I do.

Since today and forever, I am teaching my students "full "throttle". Let me tell you, every time when there is a new student enrollment I will ask them why they choose to learn this instrument. I will ask a few aesthetic questions.

After all, there is a lot of disappointments other than education.

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I have a plan, I wanted to be a performer, a singer/songwriter that most "modern musician" does today.

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a kind advice from me who has worked in this industry for few years. you can be performer and songwriter, but singer? that's hell a lot of effort and the return is so little unless you have the potential of becoming a real "star". it's not about you put more effort then you'll get returns. it's just not the same thing. sweat.gif

not trying to put your passion down, but this is the reality. only 1% of the singer will success. unless, you want to go for it without expecting any returns, but to fulfill your dream. wink.gif

oh no...we're getting far far away from topic. rclxub.gif

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a kind advice from me who has worked in this industry for few years. you can be performer and songwriter, but singer? that's hell a lot of effort and the return is so little unless you have the potential of becoming a real "star". it's not about you put more effort then you'll get returns. it's just not the same thing. sweat.gif

not trying to put your passion down, but this is the reality. only 1% of the singer will success. unless, you want to go for it without expecting any returns, but to fulfill your dream. wink.gif

oh no...we're getting far far away from topic. rclxub.gif
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Yes, I expect nothing from return and I am not doing most people are doing in this place. I am not money minded, that is the whole point of it.

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Prelude from Bach's Cello Suite No. 1 played by Rostropovich


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Yes, I expect nothing from return and I am not doing most people are doing in this place. I am not money minded, that is the whole point of it.

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mind you, the return is not just money. nevermind, you'll know when you get there. good luck to you. wink.gif
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QUOTE(Cello @ Apr 17 2008, 11:31 PM)
Alright, I am putting the spoiler because of avoiding long posts.

I have a plan, I wanted to be a performer, a singer/songwriter that most "modern musician" does today. I came this far with diploma is to at least know the proper education of music. So I think you got my idea of being a musician but what you said is good. There is a problem of me is I do not have the fund to continue degree, my parents have a problem on that.

I worked in the other music school before, I saw guitar teacher teach guitar tabs instead of notation. More over, they are just play-by-ear guitar player. That which is disappoints me the most. Talking about teachers giving less lesson in a class, that is applied to all the teachers in the previous music school that I worked with. It disappoints me even thought it is not by business. I did not debate with them, I know what is going to happen if I do.

Since today and forever, I am teaching my students "full "throttle". Let me tell you, every time when there is a new student enrollment I will ask them why they choose to learn this instrument. I will ask a few aesthetic questions.

After all, there is a lot of disappointments other than education.

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actually, there are a fews ways. ur dream for degree is not hancur yet=.="

you can start saving 1k per month, and by the time you go like 30-40k( a few years of saving). you can apply for loan for oversea. then when you come back, you can slowly pay. many people do that now, and u pay like rm300-1k per month, so its worth the while!

go to ur trustd bank and ask about it thumbup.gif

"Embrance your dream"- quote by Zack ( final fantasy sweat.gif )
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"Embrance your dream"- quote by Zack ( final fantasy sweat.gif )
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"Shucks!! ........money...." - quote by Barret (final fantasy doh.gif )

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mind you, the return is not just money. nevermind, you'll know when you get there. good luck to you. wink.gif
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Awww..thank you.

QUOTE(icypetals @ Apr 18 2008, 04:33 PM)
actually, there are a fews ways. ur dream for degree is not hancur yet=.="

you can start saving 1k per month, and by the time you go like 30-40k( a few years of saving). you can apply for loan for oversea. then when you come back, you can slowly pay. many people do that now, and u pay like rm300-1k per month, so its worth the while!

go to ur trustd bank and ask about it thumbup.gif

"Embrance your dream"- quote by Zack ( final fantasy  sweat.gif )
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Speechless, I need to think about it. hmm.gif
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Awww..thank you.
Speechless, I need to think about it. hmm.gif
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well good luck, u can still suceed with diploma but why not go further?

just like a story my school teacher told me:
A boy said that his dad did not finnish form 2 and is driving mercedez.

then my teacher said that "if u study until standard 4, you would be riding an helicopter right?"

eventhou is funny, there's actually a lesson and moral in it.

think about cello, i will be rooting for ur suceess rclxms.gif
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today i just bought a violin after second lesson. wonder if its ok. all thing is rm474.

violin, bow, casing, rosin, and a mute. dope i didnt miss out anything.

its seems tat my shoulder aint tat tired any more after i adjust my posture. but i still having trouble holding the bow. just seems cant get it right.

can suggest a website for me to learn more?
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QUOTE(icypetals @ Apr 19 2008, 02:33 PM)
well good luck, u can still suceed with diploma but why not go further?

just like a story my school teacher told me:
A boy said that his dad did not finnish form 2 and is driving mercedez.

then my teacher said that "if u study until standard 4, you would be riding an helicopter right?"

eventhou is funny, there's actually a lesson and moral in it.

think about cello, i will be rooting for ur suceess rclxms.gif
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Haha, I have heard of that quote before from someone.

"When you Cello gets bigger, it will pwn the violas and the violins!"
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QUOTE(jikolo @ Apr 19 2008, 10:45 PM)
today i just bought a violin after second lesson. wonder if its ok. all thing is rm474.

violin, bow, casing, rosin, and a mute. dope i didnt miss out anything.

its seems tat my shoulder aint tat tired any more after i adjust my posture. but i still having trouble holding the bow. just seems cant get it right.

can suggest a website for me to learn more?
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It is okay, but my music school can get lower than that. May I know what brand is your violin is? Eurostring?

Just a simple Google search:

http://www.expertvillage.com/video/13078_fiddle-bow-hold.htm
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just wondering, if you guys wannt further study music in college/uni, what kind of course you'll take? classical? modern music? music production? hmm.gif
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* Classical = Real and proper music education

* Modern = Play-by-ear kind of a thing (music notation and advanced chord system will make them go crazy)

* Music production = The people who works in the recording studio. They are not major in playing music instrument

Take a pick.

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* Classical = Real and proper music education

* Modern = Play-by-ear kind of a thing (music notation and advanced chord system will make them go crazy)

* Music production = The people who works in the recording studio. They are not major in playing music instrument

Take a pick.

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i'm more interested in your personal choice than your lecture between these courses. sweat.gif

PS: in fact, i can tell you even more than what you've elaborated. wink.gif

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No, I am not lecturing anything. I am just saying.

But if anyone finds it offensive or hard to accept the play-by-ear thing, I would not say sorry. You have to accept the fact.

A is A. B is B. If you still not okay with me, go find a music professor and ask them.

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No, I am not lecturing anything. I am just saying.

But if anyone finds it offensive or hard to accept the play-by-ear thing, I would not say sorry. You have to accept the fact.

A is A. B is B. If you still not okay with me, go find a music professor and ask them.

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what's the big problem of answering my basic question? i'm sure the answer should be way more simple than what you've said. unsure.gif

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No any problem. Once again, take a pick.
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Once again, take a pick.
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what the hell? nevermind...i'm on the wrong channel i guess... notworthy.gif

PS: regarding your comments about the courses and type of musics (and some of your insights about your career), well, i can only say that, you're still young, my friend. wink.gif


Added on April 20, 2008, 1:09 amok this is getting distracting as this is a strings family thread. i'm going to suggest a thread about music education and career, so everybody can ask questions or share opinions.

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Is it possible to learn 2 kind of instruments at the same time??
well, I'm a college student now, I wanna learn violin and the chinese music instrument -- pipa at the same time which is next semester.
Hmm... still thinking is it possible
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Is it possible to learn 2 kind of instruments at the same time??
well, I'm a college student now, I wanna learn violin and the chinese music instrument -- pipa at the same time which is next semester.
Hmm... still thinking is it possible
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nothing is impossible.
as long as u practise each instrument with the right amount of time, and dont just play it once-aweek in lesson, then you will be fine.

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yes cello, it is euro string.


Added on April 20, 2008, 5:45 pmi really having trouble holding the bow right way. my finger is too short to make it curl.

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I'm a violin student and woah jikolo I'm having the exact same problem as you have ><"
Cant seem hold the bow right and my shoulder gets tired very fast
Would you mind to share how you adjust your posture so that your would not be tired that fast? happy.gif
Have you tried using bowmaster? I have one and my fingers felt slightly better but I still cant seem to position them the correct way

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At the top of the photo above, the top bow. Never insert your thumb into the fork, just put your thumb finger nearby there. That is what I can tell you, the violin book usually has the section to how about how to hold the bow correctly.

Shoulder pain because of gripping the violin. Never grips the violin, just put it in position.

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QUOTE(Cello @ Apr 21 2008, 02:15 PM)
user posted image

At the top of the photo above, the top bow. Never insert your thumb into the fork, just put your thumb finger nearby there. That is what I can tell you, the violin book usually has the section to how about how to hold the bow correctly.

Shoulder pain because of gripping the violin. Never grips the violin, just put it in position.

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Ah I finally found out how to quote doh.gif
If I just put the violin into position and never grip it, my violin would kinda fall off when I'm shifting positions or doing vibrato rclxub.gif
By the way Cello, are you selling violin mutes in your shop? I'm looking for one laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Momotaro Kun @ Apr 21 2008, 10:42 PM)
Ah I finally found out how to quote  doh.gif
If I just put the violin into position and never grip it, my violin would kinda fall off when I'm shifting positions or doing vibrato  rclxub.gif
By the way Cello, are you selling violin mutes in your shop? I'm looking for one laugh.gif
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You did not put it to the correct position, find a position that it will locks the violin without gripping. Make sure you are sitting straight.

Yes, I do sell them. Call me before you confirm to get, I need to check for stocks.

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QUOTE(Cello @ Apr 22 2008, 02:39 AM)
You did not put it to the correct position, find a position that it will locks the violin without gripping. Make sure you are sitting straight.

Yes, I do sell them. Call me before you confirm to get, I need to check for stocks.

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How much does one of those cost, I mean approximately?
I'll be using it just for normal practices laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Momotaro Kun @ Apr 22 2008, 03:17 AM)
How much does one of those cost, I mean approximately?
I'll be using it just for normal practices  laugh.gif
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From RM10 to RM30.
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i wan to ask. actually how are those grade is graded? i mean, u take exam and u raise a grade? what are those exam called?
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i wan to ask. actually how are those grade is graded? i mean, u take exam and u raise a grade? what are those exam called?
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From my personal experience, my grades are determined by my teacher sweat.gif
She suka-suka say "okay from next month, you're gonna be grade 4. The monthly fees for grade 4 is.... "
But of course she send me for exams as well for some of the grades she chosen to see if I am par with the current grade standards
I went for ABRSM exams, and will receive an official certificate
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so... is the ABRSM good? as in recognize by all place
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I am not really sure myself, but I think its widely recognized.

Almost all of the music centre that I've asked around are using ABRSM exam standards as well.

By the way, ABRSM is not local, its main office is located at London if I'm not mistaken.
Your exams will be graded by examiners coming from London, and theory papers will be sent back to London for gradings, and then they send your cert back to Menteri Pendidikan to be collected
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thre are 4 internationally known exam in the world.

ABRSM
LCM
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GUILDHALL

usual malaysian take ABRSM but its based on own/teacher preference
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I like those Violinists who can play by ear and improvise 'on the spot'. I've had the pleasure of perfroming with them many times.

Too many times Violinists, Celiist and Violists rely on notes. That's not good.
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QUOTE(empire @ Apr 23 2008, 01:13 AM)
I like those Violinists who can play by ear and improvise 'on the spot'. I've had the pleasure of perfroming with them many times.

Too many times Violinists, Celiist and Violists rely on notes. That's not good.
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I love playing Yellowcard songs with my violin for that.
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I love to play by ears too! I don have much viola piece T.T cant find on net nor in bookstores >.< Mostly are cello and violin scores. sob.
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Hi all..

i just signed up for my first violin class... so me also abt to be a fella in this fellowship rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

was wondering how fast is it to graduate from one grade to another? anyone have any advice on how to graduate faster; other than practice hard?

appreciate all the sifu-s and experts advices...
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Hi folks!!!!
wanna dig into violin, but don't know where to start from... I just found a a place where i can make ma first move. butt its abut 80rm per month!!! anyone got idea of any place i can learn this widout much expense???


Added on April 28, 2008, 6:14 pm
QUOTE(jikolo @ Apr 19 2008, 11:45 PM)
today i just bought a violin after second lesson. wonder if its ok. all thing is rm474.

violin, bow, casing, rosin, and a mute. dope i didnt miss out anything.

its seems tat my shoulder aint tat tired any more after i adjust my posture. but i still having trouble holding the bow. just seems cant get it right.

can suggest a website for me to learn more?
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http://www.mrfiddle.com/

oops.gif I find this one, it may be of help to you.

Enjoy!!!

Am hoping to join the violin class soon. Also will get a violin soonest.

Cheers!!!


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QUOTE(dancing_violin @ Apr 28 2008, 05:56 PM)
Hi folks!!!!
wanna dig into violin, but don't know where to start from... I just found a a place where i can make ma first move. butt its abut 80rm per month!!! anyone got idea of any place i can learn this widout much expense???


Added on April 28, 2008, 6:14 pm

http://www.mrfiddle.com/

oops.gif  I find this one, it may be of help to you.

Enjoy!!!

Am hoping to join the violin class soon. Also will get a violin soonest.

Cheers!!!
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80 is quite cheap. if u are no ready to give out the money, dont waste ur time learning it as u are only wasting ur time as u r not dedicated.

Sorry to be direct, but u dont sem to put ur whole heart into it.

sit down and think, are u ready to give all u have to the violin? if so, u may proceed

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QUOTE(icypetals @ Apr 28 2008, 08:50 PM)
80 is quite cheap. if u are no ready to give out the money, dont waste ur time learning it as u are only wasting ur time as u r not dedicated.

Sorry to be direct, but u dont sem to put ur whole heart into it.

sit down and think, are u ready to give all u have to the violin? if so, u may proceed
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spending such amount dosn't scare me off, but this is my reasoning; what can i achieve in such a short duration( 4 classes in 1 month ). Also i don't think spending more = tense dedication, cause i guess that's your concept. Dedication don't mean spending all your penny. you can spend less and achieve more cool2.gif .

I will register for the 80rm violin course. Along my research i find a violin educator software which i think I'll prefer to use along.

hey here is the link, just in case anyone is intrested: http://www.dsminfo.com/musicked/musicked.htm

One more thing, I cant put my whole heart into it because i only wanna learn this for recreationa pupose. and for the fact that am addicted to classic music. hahahaha...



Cheers!!!
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dancing_violin, sombody gonna flame you. brows.gif

(i have nothing against what you're trying to say, though. everybody has their own opinions and preferences.)
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QUOTE(dancing_violin @ Apr 28 2008, 09:52 PM)
spending such amount dosn't scare me off, but this is my reasoning; what can i achieve in such a short duration( 4 classes in 1 month ). Also i don't think spending more = tense dedication, cause i guess that's your concept. Dedication don't mean spending all your penny. you can spend less and achieve more  cool2.gif .

I will register for the 80rm violin course. Along my research i find a violin educator software which i think I'll prefer to use along.

hey here is the link, just in case anyone is intrested: http://www.dsminfo.com/musicked/musicked.htm

One more thing, I cant put my whole heart into it because i only wanna learn this for recreationa pupose. and for the fact that am addicted to classic music. hahahaha...
Cheers!!!
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then good luck on to it!
i ask for double lessons and pay double cause 30min per lesson is too short.

i spend bout 4 hours per day on music, whereby piano would be 3hours or violin 1 hour, or 2:2 ratio.

as long as u practise everyday, all effort wont go to waste
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actually, 1hour in violin lesson is more than enough. coz the place tat u improve alot is in ur house. its like... u go there and teacher teach u new stuff then u go home practice.

hmm... mine also rm80 per month. but i didnt practice much, dun have much time sad.gif just 1hr perday for me
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Yes, you can improvise and play by hearing. But it will not be effective as there are techniques which you need to know and need to know when to use them. It's kinda hard to hear from a song to tell what kind of technique the player used.

BTW, Im selling my student violin for RM230 can Nego. Pls help me spread this msg around. Can send through poslaju and also COD in Klang Valley area.


Added on May 6, 2008, 8:29 pmWow, Its been awhile no one post about this topic

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Long time din see Kim already. Kim, where are you???
Recently, my new tutor teach me the correct way to bow and corrected my postures. Hard to fix all these because I already get used to the wrong method.
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I play Erhu. Is that considered a string instrument?
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im using a well.. student violin. im not sure is it a defect (well dun really expect much from MIC stuff) but it seems tat the action of my violin is too low. the E string, is basically almost stick to the finger board. and thus, im having problem playing the A and D string. i always hit the other string. im wondering is it bcoz of my posture or bcoz of the low action so its harder to bow. well... after spending a month with it, atleast the chance of hitting other string have go down significantly
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yeah erhu is a string instrument

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yeah erhu is a string instrument
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Yes it is but it is not part of the western string instruments.

Interesting that the Erhu only has two strings.
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Yes it is but it is not part of the western string instruments.

Interesting that the Erhu only has two strings.
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who cares, as long as it's a bow'ed string instrument...

and funny that the bow is stucked within the erhu, between the strings. but that's how it's played, you don't need to care about bowing angle, though less articulations involved.
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who cares, as long as it's a bow'ed string instrument...
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I care. There is more and more bowed string instrument in the world culture including Indians. History Appreciation.
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QUOTE(Cello @ May 11 2008, 11:38 PM)
I care. There is more and more bowed string instrument in the world culture including Indians. History Appreciation.
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it's like i don't appreciate? rolleyes.gif

i was merely refering to the whole conversation, and it goes like this:

QUOTE(empire @ May 8 2008, 06:46 PM)
I play Erhu. Is that considered a string instrument?
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QUOTE(JayCY @ May 9 2008, 11:53 PM)
yeah erhu is a string instrument
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QUOTE(Cello @ May 11 2008, 02:10 AM)
Yes it is but it is not part of the western string instruments.
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QUOTE(little ice @ May 11 2008, 11:31 AM)
who cares, as long as it's a bow'ed string instrument...
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unsure.gif Hi, just wanna ask, is there any violinist who's willing to teach me some basic stuff bout violins? I'm interested in this but just dont know how and where to start it. unsure.gif


Added on May 18, 2008, 1:15 pmhey, r u the guy that's lelong-ing your violin on lelong? coz i saw a guy with his violin n its also rm230 also COD within klang valley biggrin.gif

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it;s best to learn from a proper teacher. coz they can identify ur mistake
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ok, i'll ask more bout it from Cello, since his been a music teacher for more than 5 years biggrin.gif
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is violin an expensive instrument? for a beginner?
imean if guitar u can start with cheap kapok
if violin? is there such thing as "cheap"?
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is violin an expensive instrument? for a beginner?
imean if guitar u can start with cheap kapok
if violin? is there such thing as "cheap"?
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Kapok guitars are totally sick if you really play and feel it.

The cheapest violin I ever saw is RM200, a China made and the build quality are worst (you will see a few wood are not stick properly and a lot more). More over, violin is a sensitive instrument thus on a cheap violin will make your world go upside down.

I have a few good cheap beginner violins for sale at RM399 new with case, rosin and bow.

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cello, is eurostring making erm... acceptable grade of beginner violin?
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hi ppl!
i've been sometime since the last time i checked this thread! woowee ... it's still alive and kicking and i like it smile.gif

i've temporarily stopped the lesson due to hectic work schedules... i guess that's the pain of working full time ... erm with a dog tongue.gif
still trying to bring myself to inform the music center that i'm quitting... just told them i'm halting the lessons for few months... how?
will try to go there and inform personally soon .. and take the deposit back.

so now i'm practicing at least a few times a week until i broke the g string yesterday?! aaaAAaa i never changed string before ...
1. should i attempt to change it myself or? i read and watched some instructions online but still...
2. should i just change the string that broke or change all the string (one after the other of course...)

cos i don wanna change the string and broke it again rclxub.gif as the new set i bought was not cheap...


and, yes, how much does a tuner with and without metronome costs? and which type/brand will u ppl recommend... i seriously must learn how to tune the violin... previously the teacher always tune for me and he doesnt say much on how to tune e.g. like the correct way to twist the peg, when to use the fine tuner etc...

hear from u ppl soon smile.gif


QUOTE(Cello @ Apr 21 2008, 02:15 PM)
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woowee ... the bow looks nice... carbon fibre bow? (or am i talking nonsense?) tongue.gif
yours?


QUOTE(dancing_violin @ Apr 28 2008, 09:52 PM)
spending such amount dosn't scare me off, but this is my reasoning; what can i achieve in such a short duration( 4 classes in 1 month )
i was still playing open strings in 1 month... or is it me - slow?? hmmm ...


QUOTE(jikolo @ May 19 2008, 10:07 PM)
cello, is eurostring making erm... acceptable grade of beginner violin?
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i'm using eurostring. so far ok ... well at least for me... my ears are not that greatly tuned to violin yet... tongue.gif
but imo, beginner's violin no need to be too expensive as you can upgrade later...



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QUOTE(jikolo @ May 19 2008, 10:07 PM)
cello, is eurostring making erm... acceptable grade of beginner violin?
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Ahhh...good question. Yes, they are acceptable for beginners. All the China made except Eurostring.

QUOTE(storm04 @ May 24 2008, 06:00 AM)
#1 still trying to bring myself to inform the music center that i'm quitting... just told them i'm halting the lessons for few months... how?

#2 1. should i attempt to change it myself or? i read and watched some instructions online but still...
#3 2. should i just change the string that broke or change all the string (one after the other of course...)

#4 how much does a tuner with and without metronome costs? and which type/brand will u ppl recommend

#5 woowee ... the bow looks nice... carbon fibre bow? (or am i talking nonsense?) tongue.gif
yours?

#6 i was still playing open strings in 1 month... or is it me - slow?? hmmm ...

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#1, You can halt your lessons anytime but not more than 2 months (that is what music school follows). If it is over 2 months, you can resume it by paying the registration fees again.

#2, It is not advisable to change it yourself as violin is a sensitive instrument. Come to my shop and I will change it and teach you how to change it.

#3, You should change the G/4th string as your violin is new.

#4, There is less digital tuners for violin in the market. But I sell pitch pipe at my shop, also I will teach you how to tune.

#5, Yes, it is a carbon fiber bow. Fact: Carbon fiber bows are the worst.

#6, To be frank, yes. Normally my students will move on to finger playing after the first class.

By the way, franstormer is my student now. He is already started playing a song on the violin after a first class with me. thumbup.gif

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hey cello ... thanks.
let see how's my schedule next week... probably will drop in one of these days.
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hey cello ... thanks.
let see how's my schedule next week... probably will drop in one of these days.
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any brands of viola for intermediate? I wanna save up some money to get one. I'm currently on eurostring. and the bridge is really collapsing xD well, the string is 'eating' the bridge. making a hole =.= I've been practicing my vibrato, still dunno wrist or hand vibrato suits me. oh well =D my friend told me to audition for the philharmonic orchestra at my place, but i doubt my skills T.T
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is there a Violin Group around PJ area that i can join?
i play violin but i hardly meet anyone who's interested to hang and play some music together..
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QUOTE(Cello @ May 25 2008, 03:36 AM)
Ahhh...good question. Yes, they are acceptable for beginners. All the China made except Eurostring.
#1, You can halt your lessons anytime but not more than 2 months (that is what music school follows). If it is over 2 months, you can resume it by paying the registration fees again.



#4, There is less digital tuners for violin in the market. But I sell pitch pipe at my shop, also I will teach you how to tune.

By the way, franstormer is my student now. He is already started playing a song on the violin after a first class with me. thumbup.gif

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i use my laptop to tune my guitar and violin lol

if ur pc got mic pm me, i giv u the software
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i use my laptop to tune my guitar and violin lol

if ur pc got mic pm me, i giv u the software
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if you used to electronic tuner/PC, you'll won't be able to tune during performance.

first, pianist and violinist enter the hall, then 3rd people who's stage crew carrying a laptop, then the violinist tune and looking at the laptop, then the crew go back with the laptop...

or, every violinist bring out a small device which is electronic tuner, so everyone start to tune, but the tuner is capturing everyone's sound so the tuner indicator jumping up and down, then everyone start to scream "stfu i'm tuning"...

... rclxub.gif
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i tot there's chromatic tuner tat is measure by the vibration of violin?
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QUOTE(onelove89 @ May 25 2008, 04:32 PM)
any brands of viola for intermediate? I wanna save up some money to get one. I'm currently on eurostring. and the bridge is really collapsing xD well, the string is 'eating' the bridge. making a hole =.= I've been practicing my vibrato, still dunno wrist or hand vibrato suits me. oh well =D my friend told me to audition for the philharmonic orchestra at my place, but i doubt my skills T.T
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Violins, violas and cellos.. these instruments are not like market "hot selling" instrument. Basically to get a good instrument, you should go for those Italian hand made. Musicians do not care much about brand, the important fact is how the instrument was it made and wood age and quality. I can introduce you some Italian hand made if you want.

For the bridge part, it is actually normal that the strings "eat" it. You can always replace a new nice bridge. Most string players does that.

Go for the audition, at least you try.
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i use my laptop to tune my guitar and violin lol

if ur pc got mic pm me, i giv u the software
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Sorry, I only use tuning fork. I do not rely on digital pitch.
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you should go for those Italian hand made.
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QUOTE(little ice @ May 25 2008, 11:02 PM)
if you used to electronic tuner/PC, you'll won't be able to tune during performance.

first, pianist and violinist enter the hall, then 3rd people who's stage crew carrying a laptop, then the violinist tune and looking at the laptop, then the crew go back with the laptop...

or, every violinist bring out a small device which is electronic tuner, so everyone start to tune, but the tuner is capturing everyone's sound so the tuner indicator jumping up and down, then everyone start to scream "stfu i'm tuning"...

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hilarious.... but for my case i only want the electronic or chromatic tuner for my own use... not during performance ... still beginner....
but i guess during performance the concertmaster will actually lead the tuning, no?



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QUOTE(justbee @ May 25 2008, 05:43 PM)
is there a Violin Group around PJ area that i can join?
i play violin but i hardly meet anyone who's interested to hang and play some music together..
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yea that's nice... i would like to be a spectator when u guys get together to play.. tell us here once you managed to arrange a session...


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QUOTE(icypetals @ May 25 2008, 09:56 PM)
i use my laptop to tune my guitar and violin lol

if ur pc got mic pm me, i giv u the software

arigatou gozaimasta icypetals ... but i prefer a electronic/chromatic tuner so i can carry easily.... smile.gif too much hassle to lug my lappie around to classes


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im thinking of put some mark at my violin birdge. should i do that? the wiki say that is normal for beginner to mark the bridge mith something so they can remember the position easier. i dunno what is my problem, but i always end up going to the second position for my middle and ring finger. only my index finger can grab the position. perhaps is bcoz im used to the fret at my guitar?
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QUOTE(little ice @ May 26 2008, 01:58 AM)
italians are overrated and overpriced nowadays.
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Music lovers will spent as much as they can to get the best instrument.

QUOTE(storm04 @ May 26 2008, 04:37 AM)
hilarious.... but for my case i only want the electronic or chromatic tuner for my own use... not during performance ... still beginner....
but i guess during performance the concertmaster will actually lead the tuning, no?

arigatou gozaimasta icypetals ... but i prefer a electronic/chromatic tuner so i can carry easily.... smile.gif too much hassle to lug my lappie around to classes

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Take note that there is a lot of guitar and bass tuners are selling in the market, there is very less electronic violin tuners. The conductor (concertmaster in your view) will lead us all musician to tune but we must also learn how to tune it at first too. In orchestra, no electronic tuners are allowed for you all information. If you see some, you know what I mean.

QUOTE(jikolo @ May 26 2008, 08:39 AM)
im thinking of put some mark at my violin birdge. should i do that? the wiki say that is normal for beginner to mark the bridge mith something so they can remember the position easier. i dunno what is my problem, but i always end up going to the second position for my middle and ring finger. only my index finger can grab the position. perhaps is bcoz im used to the fret at my guitar?
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It is not the bridge, it is the finger board. So yes, you should stick that on it. Most beginners do that unless you want to learn the hard way.
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QUOTE(storm04 @ May 26 2008, 04:37 AM)
hilarious.... but for my case i only want the electronic or chromatic tuner for my own use... not during performance ... still beginner....
but i guess during performance the concertmaster will actually lead the tuning, no?

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yeah, for beginner you can use electronic tuner first. then if you've fimilar with tuning the violin you can start to learn how to tune with tuning fork, or best learn how to tune with piano or follow your teacher's tuning (say like in string quartet there's no piano).

orchestra tuning goes like this:
oboe as the tuning reference -> concertmaster (first chair of first violin) follow oboe -> brass follow CM -> lower strings follow CM -> upper strings follow CM

of course different orchestra might have different tuning method but that's generally how it works. smile.gif

QUOTE(Cello @ May 26 2008, 12:15 PM)
Music lovers will spent as much as they can to get the best instrument.
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no objections, but...

italians are overpriced and overrated, means it's a waste of money to buy italians nowadays (especially brand new instruments).

italians are certainly not bad, but to get the same quality without italian names one can save a HELL lot of money (usually, less than half of the price). generally "real" italians are going at least RM40k~RM50k at the very least. RM10k'ish italians are mostly done by apprantises (and some not even under supervision of the master), and for that price, mostly it's made from white instruments (pre-made pre-assembled violins with no varnish, ready for fine carving/varnishing) came from china.

not to mention, because everyone is looking for italians, fake italian labels and idiot sellers/scammers are everywhere in the world. unless you've seen the real deal, and have the skill to determine if it's a good instrument.

i wouldn't recommend italians at this range, they're more or less money investments where the italians will only increase of its value and almost never drop. unless you have the few hundred thousands or even millions to buy old master instruments - they're the best in the world.

PS: oh and by the way, give any MPO players to play your cheapo instruments, they'll make it sounds like expensive instruments...
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I actually got mine for AUD20k (RM60k) when I visit Italy last two years ago. I met the luthier and bring back a few of them for sell.

But I have never heard of fake Italian hand made before, this sounds really really crap.

I do not know much about middle-range instruments, what about you recommend us?

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QUOTE(Cello @ May 26 2008, 01:19 PM)
I actually got mine for AUD20k (RM60k) when I visit Italy last two years ago. I met the luthier and bring back a few of them for sell.

But I have never heard of fake Italian hand made before, this sounds really really crap.

I do not know much about middle-range instruments, what about you recommend us?

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wow RM60k...some more can bring back a few of them...man you're rich lol! notworthy.gif

nevermind with the fake italians, buying directly from reputable dealers or luthier is the best but expecting to pay for similar price you paid. anything lower than RM30k just have to be careful especially those RM10k'ish ones. I've seen some RM20k italians those are made by apprantises and final touch up by master luthier - as told by the luthier to the dealer and to me.

of course if talking about middle range instruments below RM20k there're a lot of choices where one can't determine which country make the best instrument. players have to seek for the right instruments pretty hard as the quality vary quite a lot.

i just share some of my experiences. i've met some MPO violinist, one of them have RM15k'ish unknown violin and sounds really good. one of my friend also has an old french violin a few decades old, around RM22k sounds great. i've heard some lower range german violins (below RM10k) which usually doesn't sound good. i also met one very very good violinist, he bought a RM4k german violin from Chamber music and it turned out it should have cost RM10k and above - and he produce a very good sound out of it.

by the way the initial question was asking for a step up from Euro String violas. for violas, i've heard a china viola cost around RM4k'ish sounds very good - probably because of the player though.

i'd say play as much instruments as you can before giving out the money to the cashier - be it from shops or from other players. then you'll know which price range you'll appreciate.

but still, i'd recommend anything else than italian if one can pay RM60k for an instrument. don't get me wrong, italians are generally very good and they also serve as a very good investment as well, but if one going to save money, there're a lot of great makers around the world worth a look. i'm surprised that many award winning violin makers are american. they won competition participated by makers around the world, some even won competition held in italy.

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I was there with my teacher, also my teacher actually brings them back here to sell. Not me, I am just helping out. So, no I am not rich at all.

I should pay to visit to Chambers music. Where is it by the way?

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QUOTE(Cello @ May 26 2008, 02:04 PM)
I was there with my teacher, also my teacher actually brings them back here to sell. Not me, I am just helping out. So, no I am not rich at all.
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ah ok... laugh.gif

QUOTE(Cello @ May 26 2008, 02:04 PM)
I should pay to visit to Chambers music. Where is it by the way?
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it's at the 3rd floor in Sungai Wang. they're selling some instruments there including italians, last time I check they also carry some italians going for RM40k~RM60k, along with some other used violins for sale - some of them are actually consignments.
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QUOTE(little ice @ May 26 2008, 02:13 PM)
ah ok... laugh.gif
it's at the 3rd floor in Sungai Wang. they're selling some instruments there including italians, last time I check they also carry some italians going for RM40k~RM60k, along with some other used violins for sale - some of them are actually consignments.
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Ahh..great. wub.gif Hopefully there is cellos.

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Other than that, I am seeking for a middle-range electric violin. Playing the same genre all the time are sick sometimes. One of my favourite band, Yellowcard features a violinist playing along with a rock band.

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I have been playing their music since 5 years ago on acoustic. Should get my hands on an electric violin. flex.gif

Anyone thinking of playing rock music with violin?

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QUOTE(Cello @ May 26 2008, 02:27 PM)
Ahh..great. wub.gif Hopefully there is cellos.
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i think they also carry some cellos but i really doubt they carry good ones though (very rarely local dealers carry high range cellos). ohmy.gif

anyway you can pay a visit just to look at what they're selling. smile.gif

QUOTE(Cello @ May 26 2008, 02:27 PM)
Other than that, I am seeking for a middle-range electric violin. Playing the same genre all the time are sick sometimes. One of my favourite band, Yellowcard features a violinist playing along with a rock band.

user posted image

I have been playing their music since 5 years ago on acoustic. Should get my hands on an electric violin. flex.gif

Anyone thinking of playing rock music with violin?

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that's a Zeta violin, and here's the model:
http://www.zetamusic.com/products/display.asp?id=52

and check out ian cooper, australian violinist also play all kinds of music (he IS very good).

http://www.iancooper.com

just to inspire you, this is actually done on electric violin but not guitar.
http://www.iancooper.com/sounds/IanCooperNo.mp3
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is there any tips of playing slur? i cant play slur. i always lost tempo or the sound change every time i do slur. perhaps i suddenly bcome stiff/nervous when want to do slur?


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QUOTE(Cello @ May 26 2008, 12:20 AM)
Violins, violas and cellos.. these instruments are not like market "hot selling" instrument. Basically to get a good instrument, you should go for those Italian hand made. Musicians do not care much about brand, the important fact is how the instrument was it made and wood age and quality. I can introduce you some Italian hand made if you want.

For the bridge part, it is actually normal that the strings "eat" it. You can always replace a new nice bridge. Most string players does that.

Go for the audition, at least you try.
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Sorry, I only use tuning fork. I do not rely on digital pitch.
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Thanks, I'll prolly just replace the bridge for now, but its quite expensive to ask other to carve the bridge >< anyway i'll try to uh go for the audition then T.T try... I'm not a pro though, and no grade basically xD just started 1.5 years ago =D found that I like viola, its very unique n i love the sound. =)

QUOTE(little ice @ May 26 2008, 01:53 PM)
by the way the initial question was asking for a step up from Euro String violas. for violas, i've heard a china viola cost around RM4k'ish sounds very good - probably because of the player though.

i'd say play as much instruments as you can before giving out the money to the cashier - be it from shops or from other players. then you'll know which price range you'll appreciate.

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Ah~ well, dunno much of china violin, but I heard that the sound quality aint tat good? don know much of italy violins but i know they are super expensive XD German ones aint bad though. hmm... I'm looking for a rm1k ++ step up, I prefer mild sound rather than a sharp and loud type. =/ hmm~ no idea =D
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QUOTE(onelove89 @ May 27 2008, 10:35 PM)
Thanks, I'll prolly just replace the bridge for now, but its quite expensive to ask other to carve the bridge >< anyway i'll try to uh go for the audition then T.T try... I'm not a pro though, and no grade basically xD just started 1.5 years ago =D found that I like viola, its very unique n i love the sound. =)

Ah~ well, dunno much of china violin, but I heard that the sound quality aint tat good? don know much of italy violins but i know they are super expensive XD German ones aint bad though. hmm... I'm looking for a rm1k ++ step up, I prefer mild sound rather than a sharp and loud type. =/ hmm~ no idea =D
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Haha, go to the store and buy one. Since you have been playing for so long, why not go for an exam as well?

I think my shop have a few RM1k-RM2k violas, come by if you want..

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QUOTE(little ice @ May 25 2008, 11:02 PM)
if you used to electronic tuner/PC, you'll won't be able to tune during performance.

first, pianist and violinist enter the hall, then 3rd people who's stage crew carrying a laptop, then the violinist tune and looking at the laptop, then the crew go back with the laptop...

or, every violinist bring out a small device which is electronic tuner, so everyone start to tune, but the tuner is capturing everyone's sound so the tuner indicator jumping up and down, then everyone start to scream "stfu i'm tuning"...

... rclxub.gif
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i use my piano n ear for other times.

Wat i meant was we are on9, so got pc, and can give him a free software ma.

i like using the digital tuner and play infront of it, so i can see whether how "IN-TUNE" i play.

So more laptop detectt sound faster than an electronic device, so faster response
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QUOTE(little ice @ May 26 2008, 02:44 PM)
i think they also carry some cellos but i really doubt they carry good ones though (very rarely local dealers carry high range cellos). ohmy.gif

anyway you can pay a visit just to look at what they're selling. smile.gif
that's a Zeta violin, and here's the model:
http://www.zetamusic.com/products/display.asp?id=52

and check out ian cooper, australian violinist also play all kinds of music (he IS very good).

http://www.iancooper.com

just to inspire you, this is actually done on electric violin but not guitar.
http://www.iancooper.com/sounds/IanCooperNo.mp3
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Ahh..I was there yesterday, they only have like 10 cellos. Not really a big string instrument shop. sad.gif

Yes, I know that is a Zeta but Zeta is a high-end brand. At least RM10k for one. Acoustic violin is fine but for not electric, I have to manage my spending already, moreover I need an amplifier for it. sweat.gif

Ian Cooper, haha. Suprisingly, I met him before. smile.gif Electric violins can really do a lot of sounds that is near to guitar and Ian Cooper does it. I remember to went to his concert two times, he loves Jazz but not for me but still entertains me.
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QUOTE(jikolo @ May 26 2008, 10:29 PM)
is there any tips of playing slur? i cant play slur. i always lost tempo or the sound change every time i do slur. perhaps i suddenly bcome stiff/nervous when want to do slur?
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Slurs, just keep the bow moving and put the other finger over it. Well, it is easy if you play slurs one by one and slowly and then pick it up fast. Playing scales with slurs will help you.


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QUOTE(icypetals @ May 27 2008, 11:01 PM)
i use my piano n ear for other times.

Wat i meant was we are on9, so got pc, and can give him a free software ma.

i like using the digital tuner and play infront of it, so i can see whether how "IN-TUNE" i play.

So more laptop detectt sound faster than an electronic device, so faster response
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Just a little question. The electronic device tuner you mean is the guitar ones? Or the violin ones with E A D G on it?

And...have you try using tuning fork before?



Added on May 27, 2008, 11:09 pmlittle ice, are you a music teacher?

I have just came back from a Guild Australia examination board meeting. If you are a music teacher, I have something for you.
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QUOTE(Cello @ May 27 2008, 11:05 PM)
Ahh..I was there yesterday, they only have like 10 cellos. Not really a big string instrument shop. sad.gif

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yeah it's a small shop, at least they carry a bit of nice violins there. have you tried them? last time i tried an italian by marcello villa, smallish violin yet produce nice and big volume. but the price is also RM60k...er no thanks, absolutely beyond my reach...i still have a lot of gears to invest... shakehead.gif

QUOTE(Cello @ May 27 2008, 11:05 PM)

Yes, I know that is a Zeta but Zeta is a high-end brand. At least RM10k for one. Acoustic violin is fine but for not electric, I have to manage my spending already, moreover I need an amplifier for it. sweat.gif

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budget wise you can always try yamaha electric violin. i don't like them though, they're around RM4k i think. you can also try the piezo pickup route, around RM1000 for the pickup (fishman is very good and no modification needed on your violin) + fishman preamp for piezo pickups. although not quite the sound of solid body electric violin but at least you have a clean sound to start with. you can directly jack up to the PA system directly since there's already a preamp, so you save a lot of money unless there's no PA system.

fyi, electric violins also use piezo pickup. it's just the design that's different (like Zeta Jazz series pickup there's 2 pickup for each strings, total of 8 pickups).

as for amps, there'll be endless purchase man. AER is really good for acoustic piezo pickup sound (not sure if solid body electric violin works). for others, well you're better off with multi-fx pedal or software ampsims. sweat.gif

QUOTE(Cello @ May 27 2008, 11:05 PM)

Ian Cooper, haha. Suprisingly, I met him before. smile.gif Electric violins can really do a lot of sounds that is near to guitar and Ian Cooper does it. I remember to went to his concert two times, he loves Jazz but not for me but still entertains me.
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he's brilliant. seldom i heard electric violinist can do such a guitar lead sound on violin. when i first heard the soundclip i thought it was electric guitar for a looooong time and i never believe it's a violin, until i got myself a good soundcard and speaker (for music production purpose), definitely it's a violin.

QUOTE(Cello @ May 27 2008, 11:05 PM)
little ice, are you a music teacher?

I have just came back from a Guild Australia examination board meeting. If you are a music teacher, I have something for you.
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i used to teach a bit but no longer teaching now. i do play violin as my 2nd instrument (not profesionally though), my primary job is music production thing. smile.gif

thanks anyway! biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(icypetals @ May 27 2008, 11:01 PM)
i use my piano n ear for other times.

Wat i meant was we are on9, so got pc, and can give him a free software ma.

i like using the digital tuner and play infront of it, so i can see whether how "IN-TUNE" i play.

So more laptop detectt sound faster than an electronic device, so faster response
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looking at computer screen and let computer to tell you if you're out of tune isn't a very good idea and same goes to tuners, imho. it'll distract your brain cause you're trying to hear and see at the same time. actually it's best to shoot a video of your performance, THEN you'll learn from there (heifetz is one of the first person who make use of audio and video recording, as told by my teacher). what seems to be in tune of when you heard under your ears sounds very different when you hear the playback of the video.

actually, i prefer violinist play slightly out of tune on some notes, it actually give the music some "colour" and personal character of the violinist him/her self. of course, not out of tune all the way la... sweat.gif


Added on May 28, 2008, 2:14 amBTW Cello, mind telling which italian maker made your (i assumed) violin? i've play one made by marcello villa (he's pretty famous), priced at RM60k at chamber music but it was quite some time ago. it's actually quite nice and feel quite different from other violins, smallish, yet big dynamics (very rare you can actually PRESS the strings, which will give you all back, press more, sound bigger).

however i don't quite trust the sound under ear. playing a violin in a big hall WITH other instruments (accompaniment such as piano/small ensemble) and it still stand out, then it really has a very good projection. ease of control/dynamic range/tone is also important though, but it's hard to find one that actually project. hmm.gif

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some useful info sites on strings and brands...
http://www.stringsmagazine.com/issues/Stri...overstory.shtml
http://www.violinist.com/wiki/violin-strings/

and thanks cello for fixing my string smile.gif
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QUOTE(Cello @ May 27 2008, 11:05 PM)

Just a little question. The electronic device tuner you mean is the guitar ones? Or the violin ones with E A D G on it?

And...have you try using tuning fork before?



Added on May 27, 2008, 11:09 pmlittle ice, are you a music teacher?

I have just came back from a Guild Australia examination board meeting. If you are a music teacher, I have something for you.
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i use it to tune for both my guitar and violin. it detects any sound, u just set the frequency etc etc.

tuning fork? i think few years ago i use it.

usually piano, piano easier whistling.gif
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anyone has any useful tips on playing staccato? Esp jumping from strings to strings >< I seriously need to work on my techniques. I'm quite ok in reading notes.
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i have no prob do string skipping. but i have prob do slur. lol. i wonder why
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I've got a whole section on staccato in passacaglia that I can barely play well. To do staccato which part of the bow should i use? End of bow or starting of bow? or mid of bow? ><
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onelove - not sure if you're talking about staccato or spiccato. staccato is played with a short stroke of the bow, fast and short, without lifting off your bow. if playing spiccato, you should use lower bow, much easier to control.
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QUOTE(little ice @ May 28 2008, 01:42 AM)
yeah it's a small shop, at least they carry a bit of nice violins there. have you tried them? last time i tried an italian by marcello villa, smallish violin yet produce nice and big volume. but the price is also RM60k...er no thanks, absolutely beyond my reach...i still have a lot of gears to invest... shakehead.gif

budget wise you can always try yamaha electric violin. i don't like them though, they're around RM4k i think. you can also try the piezo pickup route, around RM1000 for the pickup (fishman is very good and no modification needed on your violin) + fishman preamp for piezo pickups. although not quite the sound of solid body electric violin but at least you have a clean sound to start with. you can directly jack up to the PA system directly since there's already a preamp, so you save a lot of money unless there's no PA system.

fyi, electric violins also use piezo pickup. it's just the design that's different (like Zeta Jazz series pickup there's 2 pickup for each strings, total of 8 pickups).

as for amps, there'll be endless purchase man. AER is really good for acoustic piezo pickup sound (not sure if solid body electric violin works). for others, well you're better off with multi-fx pedal or software ampsims. sweat.gif
he's brilliant. seldom i heard electric violinist can do such a guitar lead sound on violin. when i first heard the soundclip i thought it was electric guitar for a looooong time and i never believe it's a violin, until i got myself a good soundcard and speaker (for music production purpose), definitely it's a violin.
i used to teach a bit but no longer teaching now. i do play violin as my 2nd instrument (not profesionally though), my primary job is music production thing. smile.gif

BTW Cello, mind telling which italian maker made your (i assumed) violin? i've play one made by marcello villa (he's pretty famous), priced at RM60k at chamber music but it was quite some time ago. it's actually quite nice and feel quite different from other violins, smallish, yet big dynamics (very rare you can actually PRESS the strings, which will give you all back, press more, sound bigger).

however i don't quite trust the sound under ear. playing a violin in a big hall WITH other instruments (accompaniment such as piano/small ensemble) and it still stand out, then it really has a very good projection. ease of control/dynamic range/tone is also important though, but it's hard to find one that actually project. hmm.gif
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Yes, tried some of the violins, viola and cellos but I could not play the double bass, it is way too big and the fingerboard is hard to press when I try to. sweat.gif Not to forget, bowing hard as well, I have only try the double bass twice. I tried those Italian and German instruments there, not bad I would say. But the high-end violins they have is wonderful. shocking.gif But still, no good cellos. They have high-end cellos but below my expectation. I am thinking of getting that cello for myself while I am in Malaysia.

I have two violins, one viola and two cello from Andreas Baptista (the luthier's name). The AUD20k I mention is the cello, not the violin. Marcello Villa! Haha, I have tried that when I was there, the projection is unbelievable. thumbup.gif I am still dreaming that violin in my mind. tongue.gif

Haha, I think I like the solid body electric sound but money is the issue for me for buying instrument for rock music. sweat.gif Anyway, thank you so much for all of your explanation, I learned a lot from it. notworthy.gif Hmmm..why not Gibson makes the Les Paul humbuckers for violins? laugh.gif brows.gif I have bad experience with Yamaha electric, all of their violins is heavy. But my favourite cellist use their electric cello, so I am getting that one soon. thumbup.gif Once again, too many things to buy so depends on how picky I am. sweat.gif

Well, depends on the performer who likes ensemble or solo performance. Like violin concerto, you would pick a violin that is suitable for violin concerto or those maestro series. For ensemble or orchestral, you would want to play the concerto module series for it. This is just my opinion.


QUOTE(storm04 @ May 29 2008, 08:31 AM)
some useful info sites on strings and brands...
http://www.stringsmagazine.com/issues/Stri...overstory.shtml
http://www.violinist.com/wiki/violin-strings/

and thanks cello for fixing my string smile.gif
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anyone has any useful tips on playing staccato? Esp jumping from strings to strings >< I seriously need to work on my techniques. I'm quite ok in reading notes. I've got a whole section on staccato in passacaglia that I can barely play well.  To do staccato which part of the bow should i use? End of bow or starting of bow? or mid of bow? ><
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Staccato are trained during grade 1, you probably should know it. blink.gif

To practice staccato, bow the string and stop with your bow still on the string, stop without going anywhere else. Make sure you stop with your bow still resting on the string. Do it slowly with scales and fast. And then continue playing your Passacaglia.

Good violinist use the end, middle and near the fork of the bow. Your bow will be shaking when you do staccato but you have to control that. It is better to start to play with the "near to the fork" part which is easier compare with the end and middle. But to be good, practice all.

I know a lot of students like to tighten their bow until the bow is straight to avoid the shaking problems. This is the incorrect way and also will damage the bow. The bow is always curve, never be straight.

And here is a little video with all the advance techniques:



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Yes, tried some of the violins, viola and cellos but I could not play the double bass, it is way too big and the fingerboard is hard to press when I try to. sweat.gif Not to forget, bowing hard as well, I have only try the double bass twice. I tried those Italian and German instruments there, not bad I would say. But the high-end violins they have is wonderful. shocking.gif But still, no good cellos. They have high-end cellos but below my expectation. I am thinking of getting that cello for myself while I am in Malaysia.

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Marcello Villa! Haha, I have tried that when I was there, the projection is unbelievable. thumbup.gif I am still dreaming that violin in my mind. tongue.gif

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aha, i wouldn't lay my hands on double bass, i don't like big instruments, not to mention it's the biggest in the orchestra (well you can challenge it with piano or even pipe organ, but you cannot bring it around tongue.gif ).

another place worth a visit is euromusic at hartamas. different from the KL branch, the shop carry much higher end violins including some italians priced at RM40k~RM50k++. however they're not comparable with marcello villa imho. the marcello villa violin i tried is really special. not sure how it'll perform in real concert situation though, which is the REAL test if want to listen the subtleties of quality difference. smile.gif

QUOTE(Cello @ May 29 2008, 10:46 PM)

I have two violins, one viola and two cello from Andreas Baptista (the luthier's name). The AUD20k I mention is the cello, not the violin.

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QUOTE(Cello @ May 29 2008, 10:46 PM)

Haha, I think I like the solid body electric sound but money is the issue for me for buying instrument for rock music. sweat.gif Anyway, thank you so much for all of your explanation, I learned a lot from it. notworthy.gif Hmmm..why not Gibson makes the Les Paul humbuckers for violins? laugh.gif  brows.gif I have bad experience with Yamaha electric, all of their violins is heavy. But my favourite cellist use their electric cello, so I am getting that one soon. thumbup.gif Once again, too many things to buy so depends on how picky I am. sweat.gif

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glad it helps. smile.gif

afaik virtually nobody will use magnetic pickup for electric violins, it's too sensitve as we're using a bow to play instead of pick/fingers.

as for the weight of the yamaha electric violin, i think it's also the same for any electric violin. solid wood body is even heavier or at least the similar weight. sweat.gif also the sound coming out from yamaha electric violin sounds hollow and not focused. sweat.gif

there're actually many other cheaper choice for Zeta violin. you can opt for the non-fancy body one, can be as cheap as RM4k~RM5k. price shown on website is just only retail price, i'm sure there're dealers offering lower price - not in malaysia, unfortunately. blink.gif at least better than spending close to RM4k for the yamaha. icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(Cello @ May 29 2008, 10:46 PM)

Well, depends on the performer who likes ensemble or solo performance. Like violin concerto, you would pick a violin that is suitable for violin concerto or those maestro series. For ensemble or orchestral, you would want to play the concerto module series for it. This is just my opinion.

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i have a violin that has weird behaviour on the projection - the louder the background music/accompaniment, the more the violin will project. also it seems to retain the loudness in any range you stand from the violin. it seems that even with the grand piano lid fully open at full blast from the pianist, my violin sound still cannot be covered. however, when playing in quartet setting, it seems to have its volume blend with other instruments. strange eh? the violin cost me around RM20k (the mmmaaaaaxxxx i can afford, i broke all the way after buying it rclxub.gif ).

however, the problem with it is it's not setup in a very good way, the strings are obviously too high. and the respond of the violin seems weird - it could be the bow i use which need to rehair, though.

PS: sorry for the personal conversations but i think it'll contribute the thread with a bit of knowledge. smile.gif
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PS: sorry for the personal conversations but i think it'll contribute the thread with a bit of knowledge. smile.gif
no worries... actually the conversations are quite entertaining and informative...
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i play cello..for keroncong
it needs no bow..pluck

and it use nylon strings
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i have abit problem with strings when i need to jump from A to D string sleep.gif always pressed the wrong string
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haha thanks cello, I'll try master it a bit better. ><
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Hi franstormer,

What I do is I play scales before playing anything else to sort of "warm up". I find it helps a lot.

Speaking of spiccato, I have great difficulty in controlling my bow - it bounces around WAY to much and I can't get the timing right either.
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Yeah, i often do that when i missed my key n string, then i'll go back to where i stopped XD it really helps alot. But i cant seems to play my song smoothly >_<"
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hi all,

does using a shoulder rest affect the sound of the violin?
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lol. i dun think so. but i think a shoulder rest does affect ur comfortability and thus maintain your standard?
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hi all,

does using a shoulder rest affect the sound of the violin?
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if you clamp the shoulder rest too hard/tight on the violin, it will some how affect the sound a little..
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yeah... noticed that too. My violin seems to sound brighter without the shoulder rest. But after a few minutes of practicing, my collar bone hurts like hell.
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im wondering. is there a standard place to clamp the shoulder rest?

and another question.

is there a website that i can find the score of classical music? some easy 1 for violin

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do u guys hang out to play your violins together?
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Ahhh...alright, I am not familiar with Malaysia places yet. Where is Hartamas?

There will be another research for me about violin pickups before I buy any. I am guessing most violinist out there have to get used to the weight of the electric violins, no?

Unbelievable, there is Zeta for that price? I have not been to any store to check electric violins except their official product website. I have to shout around now..

Your violin is...weird? Or maybe the background loudness frequency "copes" the sound vibration in your violin to scream louder? Wow, this is weird. This is blasphemy, this is MADNESS!!


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QUOTE(gbonE @ May 30 2008, 02:04 AM)
i play cello..for keroncong
it needs no bow..pluck

and it use nylon strings
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Huh?? Nylon strings??? May I know how is the music goes?

QUOTE(onelove89 @ May 30 2008, 04:39 PM)
haha thanks cello, I'll try master it a bit better. ><
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QUOTE(franstormer @ Jun 3 2008, 11:01 AM)
But i cant seems to play my song smoothly >_<"
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Told you a lot of time, relax. Before putting the bow on the string, make sure you do not put it hard or else you will make the bow jump. Put it softly and play with confidence, all you need is focus and relaxation or else you cannot play smoothly not matter how.

QUOTE(kerazul @ Jun 8 2008, 09:33 PM)
yeah... noticed that too. My violin seems to sound brighter without the shoulder rest. But after a few minutes of practicing, my collar bone hurts like hell.
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Do not grip the violin.

QUOTE(jikolo @ Jun 9 2008, 08:24 AM)
im wondering. is there a standard place to clamp the shoulder rest?

and another question.

is there a website that i can find the score of classical music? some easy 1 for violin
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No rules about where to put, it is depends on the position that we are comfortable with.

QUOTE(justbee @ Jun 11 2008, 01:08 PM)
do u guys hang out to play your violins together?
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For me, none of my friends play music. They just say guitar is better and they also said orchestral, classical and modern songs with string instrument is uncool. sad.gif

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Ahhh...alright, I am not familiar with Malaysia places yet. Where is Hartamas?

There will be another research for me about violin pickups before I buy any. I am guessing most violinist out there have to get used to the weight of the electric violins, no?

Unbelievable, there is Zeta for that price? I have not been to any store to check electric violins except their official product website. I have to shout around now..

Your violin is...weird? Or maybe the background loudness frequency "copes" the sound vibration in your violin to scream louder? Wow, this is weird. This is blasphemy, this is MADNESS!!


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em, not sure how to describe, but it's inside Hartamas Shopping Center to be exact. maybe you can ask around for the exact direction from where you stay.

i assumed, it's like acoustic guitar vs electric guitar. so if one want so to play electric violin he/she has to deal with the weight. there're many other electric violin manufacturer/maker out there, and I remember seeing a violin that looks like a hugh chocolate bar - from tail -> bridge -> fingerboard. no pegbox.

yes, at least you can have a look at ebay for reference, or around the net. there's no dealer here in malaysia afaik, you can try your luck at singapore though.

ha, i also don't know what happened to my violin. since it can be easily heard so i'm satisfied. laugh.gif

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Check out an exhibition held in MPO recently, until next Friday.

The content is about Italian violins - those old master (multi million US dollars) like Stradivarius and Guarnerius, and also the modern Italians. There's also a concert consist of all these wonder instruments, played in a chamber setting.

Don't miss it, wonder how a piece of wood that can buy you the whole shopping mall looks like? Don't miss it!

http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Fri...cle/indexF_html
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i need fingerplace sticker btw(is that a correct name?)

and hye.
new member here...ive purchased a beginner violin about 2 months ago (valencia somethin;) and after several pre-practices i think i need THAT sticker..every notes ive played sounds scary to me,bwahahah.
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it's strongly recommended not to learn with sticker, you'll grow into the habit of looking at the sticker all the time. but that's just my opinion anyway.

if you really want, you can learn with stickers on maybe a few months, to learn the right hand bowing first and less concentration on the left hand. then then when you start to concentrate on your left hand, you can do this: close your eyes, feel the finger position, and listen to the pitch instead, then open your eyes once every while to check if you're landing on the correct spot. however it's best to completely remove the stickers, and check with open string often to see if you're out of tune, or play with piano accompaniment often, you'll improve your intonation.
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my teacher din let me use the stickers =/ but he let other beginners use. then I have to thank him, cos it's easy for me to find the notes now =)
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yer, y when i register dont have that promotion >_<"
im still practicing the violin but the sound is abit weird i think i need some tunning on it now. hard coz i only got 1 hour to practice per day .
but i'll try to relax while playing next time
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QUOTE(little ice @ Jun 14 2008, 11:14 PM)
Check out an exhibition held in MPO recently, until next Friday.

The content is about Italian violins - those old master (multi million US dollars) like Stradivarius and Guarnerius, and also the modern Italians. There's also a concert consist of all these wonder instruments, played in a chamber setting.

Don't miss it, wonder how a piece of wood that can buy you the whole shopping mall looks like? Don't miss it!

http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Fri...cle/indexF_html
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Lol, i love this sentence the most xD Anyway I'm gonna find a part time job and save up for a viola =)
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well i was exagrerating lol, 10 million ringgit certainly can't buy a whole shopping mall i'm supposed (well maybe small one), but 10 million ringgit, to buy a violin... shocking.gif

i'm going there tomorrow or wednesday, it's once in a life time opportunity unless you want to travel to europe/italy. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(little ice @ Jun 16 2008, 06:56 PM)
well i was exagrerating lol, 10 million ringgit certainly can't buy a whole shopping mall i'm supposed (well maybe small one), but 10 million ringgit, to buy a violin... shocking.gif

i'm going there tomorrow or wednesday, it's once in a life time opportunity unless you want to travel to europe/italy. laugh.gif
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i think the original value is not 10m. more like hundred k. then over time, its value shoot up
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i think the original value is not 10m. more like hundred k. then over time, its value shoot up
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hey there, do you play the violin?

seems like you're touhou fans, i love ZUN's playing (he indeed a violin player, beside composing all the soundtracks, he also record violin tracks for touhou games). biggrin.gif
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yeah i play violin. but just beginner level. just started last year
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hi ppl,
I'm so glad I finally found a place to ask questions on violin in malaysia. smile.gif

I love music and have been wanting to learn at least ONE instrument in my lifetime. I love strings and would like to pick up violin but was afraid that it'll be too hard for me. Recently I've decided to take the plunge.

Saw the promo and I'm taking it as a sign for me to realise my dreams (THAT or a chance to torture a music teacher...). Any chance of me getting the "Mysterious Gift" even if I enrolled a week after the deadline? tongue.gif
(I'm assuming the promo is still on in July)

I'm looking for a Yamaha electric violin (SILENT) right now because I'm shy and I don't want my neighbours to burn my house down while I proceed to saw the life out of my violin. It plays the same as a tradional one yes?

I might drop by this weekend to check out your shop. btw, what are your opening time? Hopefully, you'll not deem me an impossible mission. tongue.gif

btw, anyone know where I find a trustworthy shop for the Yamaha electric violin? I'm like a TOTAL NOOB when it comes to instruments. sad.gif
I don't want to empty my piggy bank for a problematic / overpriced item.

Thanks! smile.gif


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hi ppl,
I'm so glad I finally found a place to ask questions on violin in malaysia.  smile.gif

I love music and have been wanting to learn at least ONE instrument in my lifetime.  I love strings and would like to pick up violin but was afraid that it'll be too hard for me.  Recently I've decided to take the plunge.

Saw the promo and I'm taking it as a sign for me to realise my dreams (THAT or a chance to torture a music teacher...). Any chance of me getting the "Mysterious Gift" even if I enrolled a week after the deadline?  tongue.gif
(I'm assuming the promo is still on in July)

I'm looking for a Yamaha electric violin (SILENT) right now because I'm shy and I don't want my neighbours to burn my house down while I proceed to saw the life out of my violin.  It plays the same as a tradional one yes? 

I might drop by this weekend to check out your shop. btw, what are your opening time?  Hopefully, you'll not deem me an impossible mission.  tongue.gif

btw, anyone know where I find a trustworthy shop for the Yamaha electric violin?  I'm like a TOTAL NOOB when it comes to instruments.  sad.gif
I don't want to empty my piggy bank for a problematic / overpriced item.

Thanks!  smile.gif
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no. dun aim for electric violin yet if u just started. and its heavier than normal 1. if u wan a silent 1, u just add a mute on the bridge of the normal violin. can cute down alot of sound. even my hsemate cant hear me practice.


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no. dun aim for electric violin yet if u just started. and its heavier than normal 1. if u wan a silent 1, u just add a mute on the bridge of the normal violin. can cute down alot of sound. even my hsemate cant hear me practice.
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btw anyone happens to live in USJ 11 or around that area? mind to help me to tune my violin? coz i wont be able to attend my class for the next few weeks so i think i need some tunning for it sad.gif coz i dont wan my neighbours to throw stones at my aunt's house because of my violin's sound
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Wow... can someone tell me why is there a HUGE price difference between Malaysia and other countries?
I'm not even talking about handmade pieces from Europe. I would have assumed Yamaha (with its worldwide branches) will have similiar pricing across the globe. (The pricing does seemed uniformed... except when it comes to Malaysia)

I was checking out prices for the Yamaha SV-120 which is quite uniformedly priced around RM 1,800 - RM 2,100 AROUND THE WORLD... but when it comes to malaysia... WELL OVER 3k??!!!

Am I missing something? sad.gif


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malaysia's tax ate it all biggrin.gif
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tats why, spend a lil to singapore
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just stumbled upon this, i'm a cellist myself. been playing since practically when i was in secondary school. stopped taking classes few years though.

p/s: CELLO, awesome, ur a cellist too.. haha.. how long have you been playing for?

p/s 2: do you guys have gatherings or meetups?
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staying in usj maybe able help tune ur violin


Added on July 5, 2008, 4:02 pmpls update me if u would love to be in our list:) cello, contrabass,viola,violinist,guitarist..pls pm me ya!:) would love to hear from you...


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just stumbled upon this, i'm a cellist myself. been playing since practically when i was in secondary school. stopped taking classes few years though.

p/s: CELLO, awesome, ur a cellist too.. haha.. how long have you been playing for?

p/s 2: do you guys have gatherings or meetups?
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no gathering plan so far yet:) but if majority would love to meet up no probs arrangement can be made

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mayb I'll try some viola here in perth, isit true that msia instruments are more exp? Like those hand made ones. Cos i'm intending to get a new one. =/
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mayb I'll try some viola here in perth, isit true that msia instruments are more exp? Like those hand made ones. Cos i'm intending to get a new one. =/
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yeap MOST of the time it is...best import urslef in or buy from someone you know : teachers etc.
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hmm, mayb teachers will 'tax' u too, who knows =D they wanna earn too xD
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that ehehe can be discussed mah....at least u know its quality shouldnt be far off from the fetching price compared to the crazy killer prices at shops
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that ehehe can be discussed mah....at least u know its quality shouldnt be far off from the fetching price compared to the crazy killer prices at shops
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unless one go oversea to buy the instruments, you cannot try the instrument if buying off internet. sweat.gif

and paying the air ticket, i think buying locally is better... rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(little ice @ Jul 10 2008, 08:05 PM)
unless one go oversea to buy the instruments, you cannot try the instrument if buying off internet. sweat.gif

and paying the air ticket, i think buying locally is better... rclxub.gif
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ohhh the net....never buy from net!seriously unless its a cheapo china violin which doesnt make much diff.
speaking of my former teacher he brings down a few from his supplier he knew for ages and there are not bad.i brought mine from his student who then upgraded his violin so he sold mine to me:)

btw anyone played i will be here song on violin before? im going to play for next weeks wedding...
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nope sowee~ dunno bout that song, but all the best in the wedding =)

I'm performing 'the prayer' with my church friends in a charity concert in sept =/
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learning the slur now... but my hands seemed not connected to me brain...
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hi guys
i've been passionate for violin for many many years since young.but took up saxophone instead and has no regret as well. i love instruments but i've always love violin and piano. however i've been busy with work and my music is kinda rusty.

i'm putting aside the tough of "u're too late to learn" - i'm not that old actually. anyway, could anyone recommend me a good place to learn. or a teacher ?

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its never too late to take up the violin better still you had music background.....i started when i was in form 4...smile.gif u can check the links in previous pages or ask our members around....
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thx kimmie for your reply.
well i'm 25;) this year... hectic work life makes me so fully occupied and not been practicing my saxophone. anyway, yes i am dedicated - even very picky when buying my violin. i dont have a violin with me now, because I insist to get one in Vienna especially from the maker itself if possible and old one.
i don't want to be disappointed to learn from inexperience teacher - i had this experience before.

i'll browse ard the post.. well jsut 16 pages wink.gif

i welcome anyone here to share with me their learning experience, the place and the teacher.

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I'm a violinist.. I'm also selling violins!.. haha..,Anyway, I'm searching for Violin pickups..
I've often tried several electric violins, but i can't achieve the acoustic sound.. So if anybody knows where to buy VIOLIN PIEZO Pickups, do PM me!!!

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Reu-CH...true. Electric Violins sound terrible! Unless you are willing to pay A LOT like vanessa Mae's electric Violin then it's different la.

I've searched for a good violin pickup for many months before I finally bought 2 excellent Piezo pikups for Violin from NZ. Fishman and those found in Malaysia are VERY mahal (more than RM400 and above)....and it doesn not make your violin sound like a violin....but more like scratching sound.

This NZ pickup sounds very natural and is only RM160+ including shipping! It's the best kept secret now.
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hmm.. was at the Sunrise Jazz festival last night, and the last violinist seemed to use a wah pedal if i hear right. do violinsts use guitar effect pedals?
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That's common la.


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Haha.. me also... learning the slur now.. sound very awful still..... at my 3rd month now...

does anyone have any tips while doing the slur, changing from G to B?? I am having headche trying to play the notes
cleanly... sigh





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hey... congrats for new branch.
learning the slur now... but my hands seemed not connected to me brain...
kinda bz these few weeks... but trying best to practice every other day... hopefully able to attend lesson this week. smile.gif
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open string G to lower B or G on the 3rd string to B on the E string? if its the G to E string B, u can try 3rd position instead of jumping strings?
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great to see the thread is alive:P i remembered someone is suppose to play in public soon?who was it? how did it went?
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haha not sure though kimmie, yeah at least the thread is still partially alive ^.^ anyway wanna ask how many orchestras are there in kl =/ apart from the high up MPYO and MPO.
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hmm.. was at the Sunrise Jazz festival last night, and the last violinist seemed to use a wah pedal if i hear right. do violinsts use guitar effect pedals?
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was him dennis lau??
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There are some violinists in town who dont know how to use guitar effects but still insist on playing with it on stage. Err...guess we better educate them how to use it properly.
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he has guts... notworthy.gif

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that's nice to c malaysian performing arts... at least they try and it needs hard work.

started my violin class... gosh i am pretty virgin with it haha
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Anyone knows which Yamaha store carry Yamaha electric/silent violins?
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1u used to carry it...try sungai wang better bet
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Hi everyone I'm new here. Want to buy and listen to some violin music cd. Know any good ones - classical, modern or any genre - for easy listening?

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Anyone knows which Yamaha store carry Yamaha electric/silent violins?
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if you live in Kl/Selangor area, pay a visit to Yamaha HQ, Kelana Jaya (along LDP, heading puchong direction).
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if you live in Kl/Selangor area, pay a visit to Yamaha HQ, Kelana Jaya (along LDP, heading puchong direction).
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Ohhh.. that one. I thought that is only for wholesale?

I am looking for SV-120 anyway..
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I just need an amplifier to get that working? Or I need to buy a pre-amp for it? I am such a noob in these electronics. sweat.gif
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im learning violin, november 08 i wil b sitting for trinity grade 2 exam..

is my 1st time go for exam.. juz wana ask is it hard...??

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Paramore, these cheap electric violins do not sound good...unless you are willing to pay A LOT more. biggrin.gif

Cheap Electric Violins leaves much to be desired...with its fake violin tone. You'll need a really good acoustic amp
to sound good. Chance are the amp itself will cost more than the violin! tongue.gif
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Ohhh.. that one. I thought that is only for wholesale?

I am looking for SV-120 anyway..
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definitely not, there're tons of selections of yamaha products, as well as lots of classrooms and a big concert hall. smile.gif

don't get the SV series, you should get the EV series, sound much better. you can connect to PA system directly as claimed by yamaha website, but i think a better preamp will give better sound.
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Paramore, these cheap electric violins do not sound good...unless you are willing to pay A LOT more. biggrin.gif

Cheap Electric Violins leaves much to be desired...with its fake violin tone. You'll need a really good acoustic amp
to sound good. Chance are the amp itself will cost more than the violin!  tongue.gif
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definitely not, there're tons of selections of yamaha products, as well as lots of classrooms and a big concert hall. smile.gif

don't get the SV series, you should get the EV series, sound much better. you can connect to PA system directly as claimed by yamaha website, but i think a better preamp will give better sound.
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Ohhh..I seeeeeee. I thought like no any other people can able to get in there. blink.gif This place has to be a must go for me.

Actually I am just starting to play in a band which I wanted to amplify my violin. I choose the SV because I saw the string quartet band "bond" uses it and it sounds good from their recording. But I have not try them before, I am clueless now.

Budget wise. sweat.gif
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Actually I am just starting to play in a band which I wanted to amplify my violin. I choose the SV because I saw the string quartet band "bond" uses it and it sounds good from their recording. But I have not try them before, I am clueless now.
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the "bond" sounds good on the SV because their albums has been through lots of high end gear processing, mixing and mastering. and their live shows are backed by good sound engineers too with good gears.

i've played with one, the sound is awful. there's no much sound quality to speak maybe due to the cheaper made body, as well as less quality pickup (in fact i think there's only 1 pickup under the bridge). the EV series has 1 pickup on each string, and has solid body too. in comparison, zeta violin used by vannesa mae has 2 pickups on each string, equal of 8 pickups on the violin.

like what empire said, you probably going to stick with a sound that you're less happy with, or invest a lot on gears. smile.gif

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the "bong" sounds good on the SV because their albums has been through lots of high end gear processing, mixing and mastering. and their live shows are backed by good sound engineers too with good gears.

i've played with one, the sound is awful. there's no much sound quality to speak maybe due to the cheaper made body, as well as less quality pickup (in fact i think there's only 1 pickup under the bridge). the EV series has 1 pickup on each string, and has solid body too. in comparison, zeta violin used by vannesa mae has 2 pickups on each string, equal of 8 pickups on the violin.

like what empire said, you probably going to stick with a sound that you're less happy with, or invest a lot on gears. smile.gif
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Meaning there is no budget wise electric violin? cry.gif

The EV series will cost at least RM6000?
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sorry typed wrong "bond" become "bong"... doh.gif

about the budget, i think so gua. perhaps you just try the SV la, maybe you'll like it. smile.gif

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sorry typed wrong "bond" become "bong"... doh.gif

about the budget, i think so gua. perhaps you just try the SV la, maybe you'll like it. smile.gif
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Paramore, i can show you how to amplify your acoustic violin to sound like electric. PM me. I am doing that now.
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hi hi! smile.gif i took violin class when i was 12 years old,
however i stoped when i was 13 sad.gif
(for some good reason which i have forgotten) anyway, rclxms.gif
i'm thinking of taking viola lesson now
(not going to continue violin as i found out viola hav mellower sound.. i think...) hmm.gif
my question is
1)where can i find a viola teacher? bcuz most of the music school only teach violin...
2)where can i find a viola? (recommend me shops near KL)
3)is it more expensive thAn a violin?
4)a full size of course! thnks guys!
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ladyvelvet, you can pm me. Not smart to put my phone no here.
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(not going to continue violin as i found out viola hav mellower sound.. i think...)  hmm.gif
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a fine violin will have a soothing sound, and some also have mellow (darker) sound. once you heard a fine violin, you'll fall in love.

but that's just my assumption, i've come across many people took up viola because they think violin has sound that's too bright. tongue.gif

also take note that, viola need greater bow pressure (and generally much effort to play than violin) and viola is of course much heavier than violin.

you have your own personal preference so don't get affected by my comments above, it's all up to you to decide. smile.gif


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my question is
1)where can i find a viola teacher? bcuz most of the music school only teach violin...
2)where can i find a viola? (recommend me shops near KL)
3)is it more expensive thAn a violin?
4)a full size of course! thnks guys!
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1) empire might have some orchestra player's contact numbers under his sleeve. brows.gif
2) for viola, better get from orchestra players or your teacher. most shops don't carry better student violas, many are pretty cheap (you know, you get what you pay for). but you can sometimes find some gems from orchestra players where they have older viola selling for cheap but sounds good.
3) generally, yes. but when you're looking 5 figures and above, not necessary.
4) there's no fixed full size for viola. smallest full size viola is 15", up to 17" which is for giants. smile.gif
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Little ice,true. There are both bright and also mellow sounding violins. I prefer the mellow as its not harsh like bright violins. There are bright violas too! So it doesnt mean that all violas are mellow sounding!

It's better to learn Violin 1st and then move on to viola. I love Viola's rich bassy tone more than violin. Viola deserves more recognition here.
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rclxm9.gif Hey everybody!

I'm a newbie! *waves frantically*

But you probably have noticed that already. Meh. Anyways i want to learn how to play violin and is wondering is there any good place to learn near tropicana, PJ? I just moved there so i'm not sure. I know the Yamaha HQ is pretty near my new house but do they offer violin lesson there? Lol. Would yamaha be more expensive than the erm non-yamaha ones? Lol. And oh oh is there any place to learn in One U?

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Little ice,true. There are both bright and also mellow sounding violins. I prefer the mellow as its not harsh like bright violins. There are bright violas too! So it doesnt mean that all violas are mellow sounding!

It's better to learn Violin 1st and then move on to viola. I love Viola's rich bassy tone more than violin. Viola deserves more recognition here.
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my former music teacher has been promoting to try china violin apprantely its been better now:) its bright as in not much effort to play loud; some can be quite good


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rclxm9.gif  Hey everybody!

I'm a newbie! *waves frantically*

But you probably have noticed that already. Meh. Anyways i want to learn how to play violin and is wondering is there any good place to learn near tropicana, PJ? I just moved there so i'm not sure. I know the Yamaha HQ is pretty near my new house but do they offer violin lesson there? Lol. Would yamaha be more expensive than the erm non-yamaha ones? Lol. And oh oh is there any place to learn in One U?

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hiya there welcome!!!:D as far as i know there is one in the curve maybe u should try looking around ss2.i could also search around for anyone who teaches there but no promise:)

yamaha most of the time its more expensive la:) but easier as in if ur teacher has moved on they would find a replacement for u:)

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as far as i know there is one in the curve maybe u should try looking around ss2.i could also search around for anyone who teaches there but no promise:)

yamaha most of the time its more expensive la:) but easier as in if ur teacher has moved on they would find a replacement for u:)
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according to my buddy who worked in the HQ, the courses there offered are only around RM10~RM20 difference compared to other places. in fact there're centers charging even more expensive than yamaha. and even it's the HQ with better facilities (although not too much better but you know, it's HQ) and a great advantage of a big concert hall.

the point here is, yamaha is more famed for their children courses, which is extremely helpful for kids to develop their music fundamentals. not sure they offer violin individual lessons though, skeat89 you can always ask them and it worth a visit even if you gonna leave with empty hands. smile.gif
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People in general dont learn violin from yamaha. yamaha is good for only kids' courses, not for other instruments. So many good music teachers are teaching privately. Why bother with the old recycled yamaha school anymore? :-)

I can recommend you a good teacher...but that depends where you stay. PM me if you keen.


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oh hi guyz! IcyFawkes here!
1st time seeing a strings forum!!!damn cool this thread!!! rclxms.gif
i used to learn violin for a year,but stopped, that was like 8 years d,now pickin it up again coz miss the sound... wub.gif
actually was thinkin of making an investment on buyin n sellin antique violins,no offence to violin players,hope not sending the wrg msg here,partly thinkin bout doin this coz im an avid art lover,for me violin is a very simple n beautiful instrument,1 word for it...refine,my kind of women if a violin could be a women tongue.gif anyways...hope u guyz n girl could give a advice on my idea!! biggrin.gif
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welcome icyfawkes!!no offence taken:) i know a few violinist having many violin and invest in them after a certain years or when they find a better one:) but to make it as a business mmmmm that i have no comment...has malaysia reached that level yet?
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to tell u the truth im not sure myself... hmm.gif
but the point is...im gonna do it on a small freelance scale and i really love violin,so wouldnt matter if i splurge abit on this in the future hahaha...it would be like havin many wives at home...i guess my greatest fear is havin my current job taking my time away frm music shakehead.gif
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Hi there everyone,

I was wondering if there is any community orchestras in Selangor or even in Malaysia at all.

Have been itching to audition for one for quite some time now. Playing alone is... well... lonely.

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Hi there everyone,

I was wondering if there is any community orchestras in Selangor or even in Malaysia at all.

Have been itching to audition for one for quite some time now. Playing alone is... well... lonely.

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I play in an orchestra in Puchong. Want to join? Other than that, you can go for MPO audition.
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yeah... I am quite interested. What's d name of ur orchestra? Do u have a website or sth where I can read up more on? Do u have any minimum requirements or do I just come for an audition?

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P.S: Is this by any chance the Puchong Mini Orchestra under d baton of Romualdo Danny Francisco?

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YES! It is conductor Romualdo Danny Francisco. You want his contact?

What I know is, I went for the audition and they accepted me. They did not ask me anything about my qualification.
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YES! It is conductor Romualdo Danny Francisco. You want his contact?

What I know is, I went for the audition and they accepted me. They did not ask me anything about my qualification.
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Cool! So how do I go about auditioning to join? Where are your rehearsals? I may not be able to join immediately as my finals are around the corner. Soonest would be November.

I'm really excited. Hahaha...
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Cool! So how do I go about auditioning to join? Where are your rehearsals? I may not be able to join immediately as my finals are around the corner. Soonest would be November.

I'm really excited. Hahaha...
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I do not know, maybe you can give him a call or something.

The rehearsals are nearby IOI Mall Puchong. I will tell you where exactly if you want.
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I do not know, maybe you can give him a call or something.

The rehearsals are nearby IOI Mall Puchong. I will tell you where exactly if you want.
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wow! nice...i didnt know puchong had one...do you have the official website?so i can check it out?
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yeah, actually that'll be great. Perhaps you can PM me his number or email or both. smile.gif

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wow! nice...i didnt know puchong had one...do you have the official website?so i can check it out?
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from what i read it sounds like a full time thing,but what he do is someting really nice,no limitations to veterens only,one word,cool! rclxms.gif
wish i could join too biggrin.gif
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wanna join together?
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not sure,coz i live in klang,and i havent even taken much lesson in violin ever since i stopped like few years ago,forgot everything already doh.gif ...unless they can teach me? blink.gif

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@paramore,

hey, what days are the orchestra's rehearsals?
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i dont mind dropping by smile.gif
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@paramore,

hey, what days are the orchestra's rehearsals?
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thank you. I've just msged him. biggrin.gif
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thank you. I've just msged him. biggrin.gif
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I am playing the first violin anyway.
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paramore,u actually have a band?i mean whats ur major instrument?
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paramore,u actually have a band?i mean whats ur major instrument?
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Hmm... I msged him but he did not reply. Perhaps I'll call him tmr.
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hey,is it possible that u guyz post ur violin pics?and info bout it?like where u get it frm etc...bet u guyz customize it or sometin hehehe... drool.gif
oh yea...hope the info could help me,im actually lookin for a new violin(upgrade),hope u guyz could help me search one,my budget for now is 2k++ could increase by time,recomendations??

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I am using a standard student violin. It is three years old and I started with this violin. There is a lot scratches but.. I love my own violin compare with those new ones that costs more than RM4, 000.

Old instruments are better sometimes.
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but buyin old instruments,i gotta like hunt hard for it...and i do not know anyone that wants to release their old one biggrin.gif
usually people tend to like their old one much more even if the can get a better one... nod.gif
it would be like forcing a kid to release his blanket sweat.gif

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LoL!

I am looking forward for a handmade instrument next few years when I am getting better. China made violins costs around RM1, 500 are good too, I have tried those and might be buying one.

If I got the bucks, I will save it until around RM6, 000 and buy a German handmade ones. Keep in mind to play it everyday to make the violin season and sounds better.
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oh?if you are going to buy one juz pm me,maybe you could bring me along to choose one.

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it works that way? blink.gif
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oh?if you are going to buy one juz pm me,maybe you could bring me along to choose one.
it works that way? blink.gif
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I think so it works that way. wink.gif
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its ok,
how i wish i could be a musician instead of making music as my hobby...
i heard singapore have alot of good ones,but usually above 15k sweat.gif
there is actually german handmade for 6k here in KL?
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its ok,
how i wish i could be a musician instead of making music as my hobby...
i heard singapore have alot of good ones,but usually above 15k sweat.gif
there is actually german handmade for 6k here in KL?
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About buying violins, I heard there is RM6, 000 German handmade but I do not know whether it is a genuine or not.
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the hardest part... sweat.gif
aint easy to do that,especially when you are working...for me,commitment sometimes kill dreams shakehead.gif
i've got alot of friends who are in the design field,very intense,but i always believe that if you really like the music,theres nothing stopping you to it smile.gif
from what i observe,new germans are usually above 10k++,if the german is really 6k,dude you hit the jackpot man... brows.gif
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the hardest part... sweat.gif
aint easy to do that,especially when you are working...for me,commitment sometimes kill dreams shakehead.gif
i've got alot of friends who are in the design field,very intense,but i always believe that if you really like the music,theres nothing stopping you to it smile.gif
from what i observe,new germans are usually above 10k++,if the german is really 6k,dude you hit the jackpot man... brows.gif
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Well, I think the German violins I mention maybe it is not genuine. wink.gif
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lolz...im bad at time management...might have found the cause notworthy.gif

nah...don't worry,might be a jackpot?who knows? drool.gif

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i brought my german handmade violin 5-6 years ago rm3000 very cheap 2nd hand student dont mind letting go for better violin.i want to upgrade to a performer but the violin im having so much sentimental value i rather keep for my sis or spare.regarsd to playing violin everyday is true it will season the violin some ppl are even payed to play on each so that it doesnt loose its warm quality:) and of coz prac everyday will improve ur skills as well


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I am a college student studying design. Thanks to my parents, I could not study music. I attend music school all by myself. I have plans to study for music after my current course, so right now I am studying music history in the mean time. My point is..keep your dreams alive.

About buying violins, I heard there is RM6, 000 German handmade but I do not know whether it is a genuine or not.
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be aware that sometimes china made violin were brought to german to polish and varnish and tadah! here goes ur half german violin:)

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gotta admit,singapore is a true violin heaven drool.gif

now you sound like my sis already,its all bout the sentimentals haha...


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be aware that sometimes china made violin were brought to german to polish and varnish and tadah! here goes ur half german violin:)

true...heard that there are fakes too,they juz get some violin and put a germen label,tada~! a german violin is born! sweat.gif
btw kimmie,got anyone you know wanna let go fine handmade violins? drool.gif

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True, I would check the genuine wood thru the f-hole everytime when I am looking at the violins at stores.

Last time the seller told me that he has a China machine-made violin that is nice, the violin has varnish oil finish with the label handmade in Germany by a luthier. The seller admit that it is not a genuine. Oh ya, it goes for RM1, 500. Nice looking violin for novice player I would recommend.

I heard some other violinist says there is a violin shop ic KLCC City Square. Anyone know anything about the shop? I need the address..
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at least the seller admited,some/most dont... sweat.gif

not sure bout KL area,but ill try to ask around too,i got my violins through my teacher...can't always depend on her doh.gif
usually its hard to find average priced good violins in malaysia unless you know people in the field...
why?coz the tax is killing everyone here...how on earth could they think of taxing instruments so high shakehead.gif


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MUSIC SHOPS specialized on strings instruments

Euro Music Distributor Sdn.bhd.
CITY SQUARE (C10)
JALAN TUN RAZAK
03-21642389

this is the map how to get to citysquare
http://my.pagenation.com/kul/City%20Square....7201_3.161.map

try this 1st,ill try to dig out sometin from the net in the mean time... laugh.gif

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So you learn violin with a private teacher? After all, welcome to Malaysia.

And thank you so much for the information, I should have look at the first post in the beginning. I needed to get a new outfit, new bow and a little bit of checkups..
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yea,she used to be a private teacher,but she opend her own place at klang already laugh.gif

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lolz...you're a busy man sweat.gif gotta salute you for time management,been some time now since i last do those stuff sweat.gif
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yea,she used to be a private teacher,but she opend her own place at klang already laugh.gif
lolz...you're a busy man sweat.gif gotta salute you for time management,been some time now since i last do those stuff sweat.gif
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kimmie,if you're still into the performance violins?i found this website,looks promising,i didn't personaly check this place out though,coz its at Singapore...maybe next time i'll go there on the holidays laugh.gif
http://www.per-ovesen.com/show/english/ins...le/violins.aspx

the prices are almost similar to the violins used by my teacher...
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good find icyfawkes ill add this soon!
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lolz...i actually found quite alot...if you're interested i could post all of it up here laugh.gif
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hi guys,

have been really bz wif assignments n didn't have time to check on this thread. If u guys wanna get performance violins between RM6,000 to 5-figured prices, lemme know. I know of this importer near SS2 but not sure if he's still there now. He used to bring in violins from all over the world but has stopped for a good few years now. He's really really old. Now he's just teaching vocal. The stuff he has in his stock are... well, hidden treasures. To me at least.

If I have time I'll go by there to see whether he's still there.

I bought mine from him as well. I play a 1989 Chen Jen Nong biggrin.gif
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interesting... drool.gif
can get discount? brows.gif
im maybe planing to get it around the end of the year or early next year...do you think he can wait? laugh.gif

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hmmm... i don't really know him. My friend recommended me to him coz he bought his German piece from him as well.

Very serious old fella.
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ok... sweat.gif
but seriously i gotta take a look at those violins 1st,planing to get it around the end of the year or early next year...do you think he can wait? i think we should check it out 1st if hes still in business,he might have retired know... laugh.gif
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hmmmmmm... i dunno... need to go see if his shop is still there. If he's still there, I think he can wait. But b4 u choose ur violin, it's better if u go audition them first. I tried a lot of violins but opt for the chinese one. I didn't even know who chen jen nong was at that time.

Came back home, googled n shocked myself.

HAHAHAHA!

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lolz...there is alot of makers we do not know,but they make very fine violins,thats normal,in the past alot of makers work only got appreciated when they are dead laugh.gif
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yeah...what a pity,he could have easily won over all those over rated luthiers of his time... nod.gif
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hi guys,

have been really bz wif assignments n didn't have time to check on this thread. If u guys wanna get performance violins between RM6,000 to 5-figured prices, lemme know. I know of this importer near SS2 but not sure if he's still there now. He used to bring in violins from all over the world but has stopped for a good few years now. He's really really old. Now he's just teaching vocal. The stuff he has in his stock are... well, hidden treasures. To me at least.

If I have time I'll go by there to see whether he's still there.

I bought mine from him as well. I play a 1989 Chen Jen Nong biggrin.gif
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kimmie,any recommendations for violin shops at your area?your living in malaysia or singapore now? blink.gif
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kimmie,any recommendations for violin shops at your area?your living in malaysia or singapore now? blink.gif
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although not asking me...

a few shops have fine violins as well as old violins:

1. chamber music at sungei wang 3rd floor.

2. euro music at hartamas shopping center, has much higher range violins.

3. carismen dolce, also at hartamas shopping center.

not sure about anywhere else...
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np! thx little ice! heard alot bout euro music,really need to check the place out,but to get there is a little irritating,but i've heard that hartamas shops selling it quite expensive than the usual price though,true? blink.gif
looking for sometin like what kerazul talked about,i find commercialization and malaysian tax killing me often cry.gif

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np! thx little ice! heard alot bout euro music,really need to check the place out,but to get there is a little irritating,but i've heard that hartamas shops selling it quite expensive than the usual price though,true? blink.gif
looking for sometin like what kerazul talked about,i find commercialization and malaysian tax killing me often cry.gif
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imho euro music and chamber music (i think carismen dolce as well) also selling very expensive. in fact, not just malaysia, in US also got dealers selling instruments at price that's higher than average place. so in order to get something with better value for money, you have to search around especially knowing more orchestra members. can't help in this regard, though. sweat.gif
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i usually juz blame it all on commercialization,why...?god why commercialize music...?WHY!? cry.gif
laugh.gif gettin emo now,but i think i wouldnt mind spending extra on violins,you should see how much i splurge on PC,with the total i could have bought 2 antique violin already
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kimmie,any recommendations for violin shops at your area?your living in malaysia or singapore now? blink.gif
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although not asking me...

a few shops have fine violins as well as old violins:

1. chamber music at sungei wang 3rd floor.

2. euro music at hartamas shopping center, has much higher range violins.

3. carismen dolce, also at hartamas shopping center.

not sure about anywhere else...
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good recommendations.there is music shop in the curve as well and a shop name harmony:) they are good too

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Harmony? The one in PJ uptown? They have a very complete collection of books n accessories there. But if ur looking for higher range violins n bows, I don't think they have. Went there looking for a bow last time. Ended up buying a Synwin from Amadeus at Sec 14
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hi guys i'm looking for a cheap but usable second hand violin/cello bow... does anyone have one available?
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what's ur budget?
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size too...
i have 1 extra violin bow...but its for a small violin
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Mine has no brand..but it sounds better than many violins with brand. :-0
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mine is a hand made chen jen nong. China brand. hahaha... but sounds wonderful. smile.gif
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kerazul, surprisingly...many Chinese violins sound so good nowadays.
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so.. most of u guys bought violins made in china?
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uhh... most popular choices would be german, italian, french violins. My first was a piece from the republic of czech.

decided to go with the Chinese one after trying a few. May not be the same for everyone but I feel that it suits me best.

replying your questions on the other thread u created, I'm using Thomastik Dominant strings. U can also go for Pirastro but I like Dominant better.

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Is it no matter wat brand of violin, the main point is on wat string using is it?

if i buy a cheap violin then change it string to better one, is it ok?
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uhh... most popular choices would be german, italian, french violins. My first was a piece from the republic of czech.
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hi kerazul, ok i'm buying this for an experiment... so i'm looking at rm100 or less.... i know they are costly cos the cheapest i found was RM300. btw i'm trying it on a guitar ala jimmy page tongue.gif
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My teacher got it for me. It was my first full-size. It was from Harmony I think.
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Hi paramore,

My teacher got it for me. It was my first full-size. It was from Harmony I think.
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Ohh..I see. You have not tell us how is your Czech treating you? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Paramore @ Oct 2 2008, 12:44 PM)
Ohh..I see. You have not tell us how is your Czech treating you? biggrin.gif
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I feel it doesn't really suit me as I find it difficult to bring the sound out. My teacher and duet partner were able to produce beautiful tones with it. Perhaps I need to improve on my technique. Haha...

My chinese piece is brighter and more responsive so that's why i've been playing it more lately.
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btw i'm trying it on a guitar ala jimmy page tongue.gif
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Buy just the violin bow then. Just RM45 from Woh Fatt.

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I feel it doesn't really suit me as I find it difficult to bring the sound out. My teacher and duet partner were able to produce beautiful tones with it. Perhaps I need to improve on my technique. Haha...

My chinese piece is brighter and more responsive so that's why i've been playing it more lately.
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Hmmmm...willing to sell it to me if I want it? hmm.gif
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nahh... I think that piece will remain in my family for those who wants to take up violin but not sure whether they want to pursue it further or not.

and it's my first violin also so it has great sentimental value to me biggrin.gif
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sry guyz,have been sick the whole week,kinda cruel joke on me since im having my holiday this week... cry.gif
my 1st small violin was from china,second was nameless hahah....no joke man...but my sis love it, my sis now,shes owning a Czech made too...bought by our teacher,dont ask me,dont know where she got it,sounds great,gotta love the czech hahah....but my sis still struggling to master it,i think its because shes not used to the sound yet...

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Can anyone here introduce any nice and affordable violin outfit?
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been to eurostrings to check already?
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been to eurostrings to check already?
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i think its best if you go check at the recomended stores and try them,i havent done any violin shopping lately,so i dont know the basic price for them currently...kerazul seems to be missing lately too,must be the exams laugh.gif
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QUOTE(icyfawkes @ Oct 13 2008, 12:54 PM)
i think its best if you go check at the recomended stores and try them,i havent done any violin shopping lately,so i dont know the basic price for them currently...kerazul seems to be missing lately too,must be the exams laugh.gif
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LoL! Okay, I have been missing too. College started + work. I wanted to know the price so I can prepare the cash before going for violin shopping. tongue.gif
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uh?best is you get to the max,thats what i do laugh.gif
but usually if youre looking for full set,1k should be enough...
you want average or student set?
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QUOTE(icyfawkes @ Oct 13 2008, 01:37 PM)
uh?best is you get to the max,thats what i do laugh.gif
but usually if youre looking for full set,1k should be enough...
you want average or student set?
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An average. Oh ya, thank you. tongue.gif
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if im not mistaken,most stores accept debit card?that means using your atm card to charge...
average would cost you somewhere near 500++
still think that you should prepare 1k...coz an average set you would be utilizing it for a period of time right?so get a better one...and better ones cost you laugh.gif
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QUOTE(pigcat @ Mar 27 2008, 03:17 PM)
4. Always loosen the bow after use, or else the tension will damage the wood stick and it'll lose its curve and will feel dead when playing.

5. Do not have the shoulder rest set too narrow to clamp the body too tight, it'll damped the sound and responsiveness.

6. Do not leave your violin in a hot environment! The painting of the violin will melt and worse the glue that hold the wood pieces will come off.

I think that's about it, try not to knock your violin to cause nicks and dings so you can always sell it off in the future for higher value. wink.gif
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Lose its curve? My teacher told me it will damage the hair... hmm.gif

I accidently dropped my violin while walking down the stairs, and it fell all the way down to the ground level. I got dents all over, and the chin rest had a huge crack shocking.gif Thank God it didnt broke into 2 pieces. I was emo the whole day. Kinda makes me feel like I'm abusing my new born child...


Btw I tend to have shaking tunes when bowing. Any advises? Im still a newbie. =)
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QUOTE(icyfawkes @ Oct 13 2008, 04:19 PM)
if im not mistaken,most stores accept debit card?that means using your atm card to charge...
average would cost you somewhere near 500++
still think that you should prepare 1k...coz an average set you would be utilizing it for a period of time right?so get a better one...and better ones cost you laugh.gif
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Well, maybe they will accept debit card. We will see how. Yes, it will be for a long term use. Anyway, set as you mean the violin, outfit and bow or just the outfit?

If it is just outfit for RM1k, that is madness. shocking.gif

QUOTE(yunnie @ Oct 13 2008, 04:29 PM)
Lose its curve? My teacher told me it will damage the hair... hmm.gif

I accidently dropped my violin while walking down the stairs, and it fell all the way down to the ground level. I got dents all over, and the chin rest had a huge crack  shocking.gif  Thank God it didnt broke into 2 pieces. I was emo the whole day. Kinda makes me feel like I'm abusing my new born child...
Btw I tend to have shaking tunes when bowing. Any advises? Im still a newbie. =)
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Lose it's curve and it will damage the hair at the same time.

Well I think you can change chin rest only. You should bring it to some violin luthier to have a look on your violin since it was dropped. The materials inside your violin (such as sound post) might be lose it's position or something.

Shakings are normal to every violinist. If your bow is not good or damage, it will affect your playing such as shaking. I advise you to control your bow smoothly. Ask your teacher to help you with that, if not you should buy a new bow (only with teacher's advise).

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Lose its curve? My teacher told me it will damage the hair... 

if im not mistaken its the hair,it shortens the lifespan i think...but both is true...the bow IS wooden...it tends to bend made by the tension
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I accidently dropped my violin while walking down the stairs, and it fell all the way down to the ground level. I got dents all over, and the chin rest had a huge crack  Thank God it didnt broke into 2 pieces. I was emo the whole day. Kinda makes me feel like I'm abusing my new born child...

Lolz! the music god must really love you...but check it properly,see if the sound is effected or not...its normal to feel emo...i remember dropping my handmade classical guitar before...brand new that time,it was kinda like a short stab to your heart sweat.gif
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Btw I tend to have shaking tunes when bowing. Any advises? Im still a newbie. =)

no idea >.< coz im having that prob after not playing for sometime...i guess practicing more and try to improve your bowing skills would do the job,i dont know how to explain the method...i tried catching the right preasure to put on the string and glide properly...or your fingers are shaking when you play? sweat.gif


Added on October 13, 2008, 4:47 pmoh?you mean just the outfit?sorry...i thought you were talking bout the set sweat.gif
nah...if just the outfit...500++ would be enough...

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QUOTE(icyfawkes @ Oct 13 2008, 04:44 PM)
oh?you mean just the outfit?sorry...i thought you were talking bout the set sweat.gif
nah...if just the outfit...500++ would be enough...
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Yes, just the outfit. RM500, still a lot unless it is really a very good outfit and worth the money.

I expect to put 4 bows, more space for accessories and a very big sheet music pocket!
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4 bows??!! shocking.gif
why do you need 4 bows?its your whole collection? laugh.gif so far ive seen cases with two...i havent seen 1 with 4 yet hmm.gif
500 is all you need,get something rectangular to put in more notes,i remember my triangular one...gotta stuff the notes in and the books keep jutting out at the side... doh.gif
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QUOTE(icyfawkes @ Oct 13 2008, 05:09 PM)
4 bows??!! shocking.gif
why do you need 4 bows?its your whole collection? laugh.gif so far ive seen cases with two...i havent seen 1 with 4 yet hmm.gif
500 is all you need,get something rectangular to put in more notes,i remember my triangular one...gotta stuff the notes in and the books keep jutting out at the side... doh.gif
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LoL! I know it is crazy and yes, some collection. brows.gif Country fiddle players need a different bow. I am hoping to put 4 bows on it but when I got I will not use up all 4. I saw some outfit can really put up to 4 bows.

Ya! I do not want to get those sheet music pocket that jutting the sides of the paper. It is annoying when I take out my music to play. doh.gif Feels it like a dead paper.
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collections eh... drool.gif
i think the best is you can find someone to customize it...but i dont know who can do it... sweat.gif coz the basic ones they usually sell are the normal ones...
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QUOTE(Paramore @ Oct 13 2008, 04:41 PM)
Well I think you can change chin rest only. You should bring it to some violin luthier to have a look on your violin since it was dropped. The materials inside your violin (such as sound post) might be lose it's position or something.
Shakings are normal to every violinist. If your bow is not good or damage, it will affect your playing such as shaking. I advise you to control your bow smoothly.
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Probably.. Because I can hear there's something inside when toppling the violin...
Pieces of wood maybe?

QUOTE(icyfawkes @ Oct 13 2008, 04:44 PM)
no idea >.< coz im having that prob after not playing for sometime...i guess practicing more and try to improve your bowing skills would do the job,i dont know how to explain the method...i tried catching the right preasure to put on the string and glide properly...or your fingers are shaking when you play? sweat.gif
practicing more
Yup practise makes prefect.

B]or your fingers are shaking when you play[/B]?
Hmm I don't think so. But it used to be shaking.. The first time I was holding the bow, my fingers were shaking. Hehe.
I tend to apply alot of pressure when bowing. But after playing longer, it relaxed a lil bit. Kinda feel like Im playing it stiffly. I see other violinist playing it so smoothly..

4 bows??!!
why do you need 4 bows?

Lol. Its like a pro hit man choosing the right weapon from his outfit. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(icyfawkes @ Oct 13 2008, 05:26 PM)
collections eh... drool.gif
i think the best is you can find someone to customize it...but i dont know who can do it... sweat.gif coz the basic ones they usually sell are the normal ones...
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I wonder do the outfits have brands just like KUN for shoulder rest.

QUOTE(yunnie @ Oct 13 2008, 05:35 PM)
Probably.. Because I can hear there's something inside when toppling the violin...
Pieces of wood maybe?
practicing more
Yup practise makes prefect.

B]or your fingers are shaking when you play[/B]?
Hmm I don't think so. But it used to be shaking.. The first time I was holding the bow, my fingers were shaking. Hehe.
I tend to apply alot of pressure when bowing. But after playing longer, it relaxed a lil bit. Kinda feel like Im playing it stiffly. I see other violinist playing it so smoothly..

4 bows??!! 
why do you need 4 bows?

Lol. Its like a pro hit man choosing the right weapon from his outfit.  tongue.gif
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Yes, sound post is actually a piece of wood. Can be anything else, no one can give you the exact answer here unless you bring it to a violin luthier.

I think you need to relax when playing violin. For your left fingers, you do not need to press the notes hard. Every notes violinist press does not have to be hard and we all play it smoothly. The violin will not hurt you, you are controlling the violin so all you have to do is relax.

Well well, as said country music for violin needs a different bow. Some for rock music and etc.. a lot.
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man...gotta salute you paramore,i havent even try to think of going rock on my violin laugh.gif
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classical players also need different bows, some bow suitable for baroque pieces, some for classical, some for romantic pieces. also some are backup bows for situation like outdoor, you wouldn't want to mess around with an expensive bow.
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QUOTE(Paramore @ Oct 13 2008, 05:59 PM)
I think you need to relax when playing violin. For your left fingers, you do not need to press the notes hard. Every notes violinist press does not have to be hard and we all play it smoothly. The violin will not hurt you, you are controlling the violin so all you have to do is relax.

Well well, as said country music for violin needs a different bow. Some for rock music and etc.. a lot.
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I tried going easy on it just now, and guess what? It was a lot better than before.
Although still a little shakey here and there. I realised my grip wasnt stable enough. Maybe thats why its shakey. XD


QUOTE(icyfawkes @ Oct 13 2008, 09:50 PM)
man...gotta salute you paramore,i havent even try to think of going rock on my violin laugh.gif
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LOL I second that. thumbup.gif

Btw thanks for Paramore and icyfawkes both of your advises.
It really helps XD
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np,just glad there are more people picking up violins laugh.gif
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QUOTE(yunnie @ Oct 13 2008, 10:30 PM)
I tried going easy on it just now, and guess what? It was a lot better than before.
Although still a little shakey here and there. I realised my grip wasnt stable enough. Maybe thats why its shakey. XD
LOL I second that.  thumbup.gif

Btw thanks for Paramore and icyfawkes both of your advises.
It really helps XD
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Keep on practicing, your playing will be just fine. smile.gif

You are welcome.

I hope there is more people picking up viola. It is sometimes a shame for an orchestra to have very few violist.
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oh yea...that day i was talking to my friend bout the sound,some dude just came and talk how bad the violin screech was...i was like,dude,do you even play violin? laugh.gif man...
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QUOTE(icyfawkes @ Oct 14 2008, 09:17 AM)
oh yea...that day i was talking to my friend bout the sound,some dude just came and talk how bad the violin screech was...i was like,dude,do you even play violin? laugh.gif man...
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Cheap violins like Skylark with cheap bow and bad rosin = screeching like a whistle. laugh.gif

Especially on the first string, very annoying. doh.gif
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lolz...usually instead of getting a beginners violin like skylark,i would rather keep enough cash to get a handmade higher average violin...but its good to exp lower end violins first so you can differentiate the sounds laugh.gif
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QUOTE(icyfawkes @ Oct 14 2008, 09:25 AM)
lolz...usually instead of getting a beginners violin like skylark,i would rather keep enough cash to get a handmade higher average violin...but its good to exp lower end violins first so you can differentiate the sounds laugh.gif
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I would recommend Valencia violins that Woh Fatt sells. It is better than Skylark two times. Price is about RM50 more.

Questioning Fact: Genuine handmade violin at least RM5, 000?
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get second hand ones are around 2k+...
Velencia eh?havent try it yet...
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get second hand ones are around 2k+...
Velencia eh?havent try it yet...
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Hmmm..I mean new ones.

I do not know if Woh Fatt let you try it out or not. unsure.gif It is quite a solid violin after all.
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oh...if you need help on second hand violins i could help you to ask around,back in contact with my previous music teacher already... brows.gif
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oh...if you need help on second hand violins i could help you to ask around,back in contact with my previous music teacher already... brows.gif
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Okayokayokay.

*goes off to do music theory work* yawn.gif
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man...i hate theory...
*back to work* laugh.gif
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man...i hate theory...
*back to work* laugh.gif
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LoL! I wish I could conduct music, I love theory. brows.gif
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ugh...spare me...dont kill me with theory lessons & books laugh.gif
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ugh...spare me...dont kill me with theory lessons & books laugh.gif
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Music History. brows.gif LoL! Alright, enough for you..

Is that a necklace in your avatar?
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yeah,nice eh?got the pic from a music accesory store in U.K...nice wares they have...1 is a violin bridge,the other is a cello bridge
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yeah,nice eh?got the pic from a music accesory store in U.K...nice wares they have...1 is a violin bridge,the other is a cello bridge
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I see. I am looking for a Beethoven portrait poster for my room and some Paramaore posters too. biggrin.gif

My college class starts at 2PM, boring.. yawn.gif
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Beethoven portrait poster is abit niche...but should be easy to find though...ill look up some shops for you
Paramaore posters?i havent even listen to songs by paramore yet laugh.gif so i cant really help you on this,but ill look up for that too
2pm is nice...i start work at 8.30am yawn.gif
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QUOTE(icyfawkes @ Oct 14 2008, 12:37 PM)
Beethoven portrait poster is abit niche...but should be easy to find though...ill look up some shops for you
Paramaore posters?i havent even listen to songs by paramore yet laugh.gif so i cant really help you on this,but ill look up for that too
2pm is nice...i start work at 8.30am yawn.gif
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ah...student life is a bliss nod.gif
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Beethoven portrait poster is abit niche...but should be easy to find though...ill look up some shops for you
Paramaore posters?i havent even listen to songs by paramore yet laugh.gif so i cant really help you on this,but ill look up for that too
2pm is nice...i start work at 8.30am yawn.gif
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Btw the violin bridge-like necklace looks cool. Hehe.. biggrin.gif
I didn't notice it until paramore mentioned it. XD
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yea?i would like to buy it if its in malaysia...too bad the store is in UK
but i can order...prob is i forgot the webiste already sweat.gif
alot of accessories there are very nice...if im not mistaken,its handmade...
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lolz...u can add me at msn,my emails at my profile
found the link to the shop!!!
http://www.theviolincase.com/509.shtml
quite exp... sweat.gif real 14k gold,the sterling ones are cheaper...

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LOL yeah..

Can the violin bridge have a heart shape in the middle? Hehe..
It'll look good on the violin. XD

Btw the difference between a viola and a violin is the size?
Viola = Bigger violin???
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could try to customize your violins bridge laugh.gif seriously,dont try it... doh.gif

i havent really tried playing the viola,but it is said from viola players that it is larger than the full size violin,and the sound is mellower...gotta put extra preasures on the strings compared to the normal violins,sound more to me like a bass version of the violin...
im ashamed that i've tried violin,but didn't try viola at all sweat.gif hope can try 1 soon myself...
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Also the viola uses the alto clef. The middle pitch between bass and treble clef.

user posted image

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clef
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/viola

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Hmm.. I'm not very familiar with music notes XD They all look the same.
That's one of the reason why i quit piano a long long time ago..

Now struggling already. Hehee.. But I'm not giving up violin because of this.
Need to train myself to recognise them in one look. Don't have to keep refering the scores one note at a time when playing.

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QUOTE(yunnie @ Oct 14 2008, 03:50 PM)
Hmm.. I'm not very familiar with music notes XD They all look the same.
That's one of the reason why i quit piano a long long time ago..

Now struggling already. Hehee.. But I'm not giving up violin because of this.
Need to train myself to recognise them in one look. Don't have to keep refering the scores one note at a time when playing.
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You cannot see the alto clef on the piano score. blink.gif

I think you should study a little of theory and then pick up violin, it will helps your reading a lot.
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paramore...this one is based in UK,for now i can find for you using the net,not going out to shop this whole month,busy with work...
https://www.allposters.co.uk/-sp/Ludwig-Van...s_i2310791_.htm
if you think that the postage service is troublesome & you can wait,i could ask my aunt that is living there to help you get it,she will come to malaysia on CNY or Christmas wink.gif
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QUOTE(icyfawkes @ Oct 14 2008, 03:57 PM)
paramore...this one is based in UK,for now i can find for you using the net,not going out to shop this whole month,busy with work...
https://www.allposters.co.uk/-sp/Ludwig-Van...s_i2310791_.htm
if you think that the postage service is troublesome & you can wait,i could ask my aunt that is living there to help you get it,she will come to malaysia on CNY or Christmas wink.gif
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Whoa, thankyouthankyouthankyouthankyou.
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wow...theres alot of paramore stuff when i googled...i think you can choose it according to your taste,since im not a fan of them... laugh.gif
if you want me to ask my aunt to help you buy it over,pm me the website and the item code...i will try my best wink.gif
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QUOTE(icyfawkes @ Oct 14 2008, 04:08 PM)
wow...theres alot of paramore stuff when i googled...i think you can choose it according to your taste,since im not a fan of them... laugh.gif
if you want me to ask my aunt to help you buy it over,pm me the website and the item code...i will try my best wink.gif
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It is a different type of music, so it is a different thing after all. wink.gif I will see how, maybe I wanted to buy from KL instead.
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well if possible,you could send me some of paramore's music...or maybe ill find it tonight laugh.gif
paramore seems to have a large fanbase,gotta check it out
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QUOTE(Paramore @ Oct 14 2008, 03:55 PM)
You cannot see the alto clef on the piano score. blink.gif

I think you should study a little of theory and then pick up violin, it will helps your reading a lot.
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Violins have theory too rite?
Hmm.. My teacher hasn't given me any work on theory yet.. I don't even have a workbook!
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Hmm.. My teacher hasn't given me any work on theory yet.. I don't even have a workbook!

yea,they have theory in violin too,if im not mistaken its until the 8th grade same as piano?i stopped at theory grade 3...when your teacher start giving you workbooks...you'd wish she wouldn't laugh.gif but it plays an important role in your music learning too
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QUOTE(icyfawkes @ Oct 14 2008, 04:25 PM)
well if possible,you could send me some of paramore's music...or maybe ill find it tonight laugh.gif
paramore seems to have a large fanbase,gotta check it out
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http://www.paramore.net/music

QUOTE(yunnie @ Oct 14 2008, 04:34 PM)
Violins have theory too rite?
Hmm.. My teacher hasn't given me any work on theory yet.. I don't even have a workbook!
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Some teachers or music school offer music theory class along with your practical (every instrument) until grade 5. Till then you will need to take a different class to complete until grade 8. You may ask your teacher if he/she offers or not, if it is not, you need another class. I can be your theory teacher if you want to save money.

QUOTE(icyfawkes @ Oct 14 2008, 04:38 PM)
when your teacher start giving you workbooks...you'd wish she wouldn't laugh.gif
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LoL! I do not like books that I read in high school but I love music books a lot. laugh.gif
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well if you compare school books with music books of course i would take on the music book! laugh.gif

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QUOTE(Paramore @ Oct 14 2008, 05:53 PM)
Some teachers or music school offer music theory class along with your practical (every instrument) until grade 5. Till then you will need to take a different class to complete until grade 8. You may ask your teacher if he/she offers or not, if it is not, you need another class. I can be your theory teacher if you want to save money.
LoL! I do not like books that I read in high school but I love music books a lot. laugh.gif
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I will ask her today. I remembered she ordered a book (should be theory?) for me since it has no stock when I first enrolled in her class. Well, I think she forgot about it.
Btw thanks for offering to tutor me. Maybe I can ask for your help if I encounter any difficulties in theory? XD notworthy.gif That is if you don't mind.

QUOTE(icyfawkes @ Oct 15 2008, 08:28 AM)
well if you compare school books with music books of course i would take on the music book! laugh.gif
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Music books don't have much wordings. I don't mind others but spare me with history school books. rclxub.gif
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i used to hate add maths the most... shakehead.gif used to skip that class often tongue.gif
i find my music teacher kinda forgetful too...normal? blink.gif
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Haha.. my add maths was lousy. Rarely bother to do the hw that our teacher gave us. Luckily managed to survive in SPM. XD

BTW is the bridge supposed to be aligned with the middle point of both the sound posts? When I was positioning the bridge (after I dropped my violin *ouch*) the other day, I made it slightly higher up. Does it affect much?
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i think there is an exact point to place the bridge,so that the strings are brought to an exact height between the strings & neck,its best to let your teacher do that...it affects the sound if not place properly
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QUOTE(yunnie @ Oct 15 2008, 09:05 AM)
I will ask her today. I remembered she ordered a book (should be theory?) for me since it has no stock when I first enrolled in her class. Well, I think she forgot about it.
Btw thanks for offering to tutor me. Maybe I can ask for your help if I encounter any difficulties in theory? XD  notworthy.gif  That is if you don't mind.
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Sure, not a problem. smile.gif

QUOTE(icyfawkes @ Oct 15 2008, 09:13 AM)

i find my music teacher kinda forgetful too...normal? blink.gif
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Abnormal, maybe she/he is new in teaching. You should remind her/him.

QUOTE(yunnie @ Oct 15 2008, 10:05 AM)
BTW is the bridge supposed to be aligned with the middle point of both the sound posts? When I was positioning the bridge (after I dropped my violin *ouch*) the other day, I made it slightly higher up. Does it affect much?
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It does affect the sound if the bridge position is wrong. The bridge is aligned to the notch of the f-hole:

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It is better to let your teacher realign it for you. wink.gif
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lolz...i hate doing aligning & tuning,wreck my nerve to the highest notch... rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(Paramore @ Oct 15 2008, 11:16 AM)

It is better to let your teacher realign it for you. wink.gif
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Will do. I only noticed it after one week. tongue.gif

I only copy the way my teacher tunes the violin. She hasn't teach me yet.. Must ask about this also.. hmm.gif

I only use the pegs to tune. Not really sure how to use the fine tuners.

Btw the strings won't snap that easily right?
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not really...but hows your string condition now?
it depends...if its new string then you need not worry much... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(yunnie @ Oct 15 2008, 11:45 AM)
Will do. I only noticed it after one week.  tongue.gif

I only copy the way my teacher tunes the violin. She hasn't teach me yet.. Must ask about this also..  hmm.gif

I only use the pegs to tune. Not really sure how to use the fine tuners.

Btw the strings won't snap that easily right?
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Okay. You will not learn how to tune until grade 5 actually. Tuning is very hard unless if you can catch the note on the piano to the violin.

If you can able to tune it yourself with the peg, then it you will sometimes needed some a little bit adjusting for the pitch to be accurate, that is the time you need to use the fine tuners. Turn it to the right for higher pitch and turn it to the left for lower pitch. Simply as that. icon_rolleyes.gif

The string will not snap if you did not over tighten the string.
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it will snap if your string is old like mine!!! rusty!!! sweat.gif
i myself rarely use fine tuner...lolz paramore,do you have the habit of stocking up on spare strings? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(icyfawkes @ Oct 15 2008, 11:58 AM)
lolz paramore,do you have the habit of stocking up on spare strings? laugh.gif
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I work for a music school, so I just take it from there if my violin string is broken and then cut off on my next salary. cool2.gif
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wow...talk bout easy access to stocks...should consider that job if i quit my current job... laugh.gif
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Ya.. very convenient indeed. You all working part time?
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i'm full time here,paramore is studying & working...lucky guy nod.gif
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LOL foruming and working at the same time. High Five!

Paramore can find time for studying and working? If I have classes, I will be dead tired. Not to mention helping my mum with house work. Zzz
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lolz...if my boss find out,ill be dead...nah...paramore seems to be enjoying it right paramore? laugh.gif
btw...foruming while working decrease stress,no complaints haha...
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lolz...if my boss find out,ill be dead...nah...paramore seems to be enjoying it right paramore? laugh.gif
btw...foruming while working decrease stress,no complaints haha...
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Hmm.. enjoy teaching? I wonder how it is like being a music teacher in a kindergarten. XD Must be quite fun.

LOL foruming also kills time. thumbup.gif

Is playing cello harder than any other string instruments? Since its heavy and all.. The strings must be very thick too right?
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sorry no comments on cello coz i havent try it yet...so far i've listen to live cello performance twice only...hope a cello player can come to this forum laugh.gif
foruming is fun,but sometimes get carried away...cant finish work in time sweat.gif
my mom used to own a kindergarten...very fun nod.gif you will enjoy the job if you like kids
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Is playing cello harder than any other string instruments? Since its heavy and all.. The strings must be very thick too right?
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I am minoring in cello. Well, it is bigger obviously and the fingerboard is harder to press because the string is thick (almost the same thickness compare with the electric bass). It is not really heavy after all. To compare which is harder, it is impossible (nothing is easy). Violinist plays a lot of melodies while cellist is like sort of easy on bass notation such as playing the tonic chords but sometimes the cellist does a little bit of melody. After all, do not compare anything because nothing is easy.

Well, I am not a lucky guy. I am forced to study other course than music for college (most music student parental problems). Just because the music school in Puchong do not have much violin teacher, I was asked to help and they trained me. Teaching is fun and can be very serious, I found my own reason to be a music teacher forever but there is always pros and cons. Playing in an orchestra is a different experience.

And yes, posting on the forum is the time where I can relax for a bit. biggrin.gif Or else, I am reading things about Beethoven and being a music theory mafia. sweat.gif

So icyfawkes, drop your job. Study music and start to enjoy musician life. brows.gif

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So icyfawkes, drop your job. Study music and start to enjoy musician life. 

how i wish i could,im the only guy in the family and the highest earner...so im supposed to support my family sweat.gif
there are also alot factors that binds me to my current work,i do really wish in the future i could change job to be a musician wub.gif

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